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>> well, at several points this week, some very rich people have taken the podium at the dnc and lectured middle class americans that the future of democracy itself hinges on them voting for democrats in november. brian jennings is live in chicago with that story tonight. brian, good evening. >> trace, good evening. and this sort of class warfare or attacks on the rich and the ivy league educated is most prominently playing itself out in the vice presidential race between minnesota's governor tim walz and ohio senator j.d. vance as they try to one up one another and portray themselves as the one true midwestern man of the people. now, walz is the nebraska native, a teacher football coach who has a net worth reportedly of a few hundred thousand dollars, and he has leaned heavily into attacking vance as being an elitist for pulling himself out of poverty from appalachia to become a millionaire after graduating from yale. >> now, i grew up in butte, nebraska, a town of 400 people.

i had 24 kids in my high school class, and none of them went to yale. the attack is particularly curious, given at least eight democrats who spoke at this week's convention are yale alumni. it's left an opening for vance to defend himself for simply being successful. >> i'm proud of what i accomplished and more importantly, i'm proud of all the people who sacrificed in order to give me a better life. i would think tim walz would want to praise people who sacrificed to give their children and grandchildren a better life. >> not put me down. >> at the dnc, michelle obama went after those who inherited wealth, and senator bernie sanders attacked billionaires. ironically, right before introducing illinois governor j.b. pritzker, who then bragged about being worth some $3.5 billion. now, pritzker was one of a cadre of mega wealthy dnc speakers this week, including billionaire oprah winfrey.

the clintons, obama's and the former ceo of american express . the bottom line is to raise both campaigns are going to try to win over blue collar workers in pivotal battleground states like wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. and they will be leaning heavily into their vp picks to do just that. trace brian jennings live for us in chicago. brian, thank you. on this final night of the dnc in chicago, anti-israel protesters made their final attempt to disrupt the coronation of kamala harris. the senior correspondent mike tobin is live in chicago. >> mike, good evening. good evening, trace. and the protests boil down to some protesters blocking traffic and harassing the delegates and convention goers as they left the convention. do you like your children? is that your favorite thing? that's what you're voting for. >> some of what we saw with a conflict with police is when they tried to pour out into

the intersection here with a right on the intersection, the police wouldn't let them go. there were some pushing and shoving that ultimately dissipated. and quite a contrast from what we saw earlier in the evening when thousands of the protesters poured out on the street. they marched the preplanned route when they got to a park. seven, five, seven, eight, the closest point they would be to the convention center. they stopped for a while, they chanted. they banged on drums. they did jeer at some of the police officers to say different aggressive comments to the police officers. but by and large, they feel that they were heard inside of the convention, referencing president biden's quote that they've got a point. they think that their message got through. as far as the disruptions, as far as different things that impacted what people were doing on the street, they call that escalations. and they don't denounce it because they feel it was necessary to get their message out there and get their message received. but the way things stand right now, you've got just a handful of people hanging around at the park where the big demonstration was. big demonstrations happened, unaware of any more arrests

tonight jason. >> mike tobin, great job this week, as always, mike. thank you. let's bring in the community roundtable director, chicago resident court truss and the trump campaign media affairs director jeanette thomas. thank you both for coming on. to you first. i want to play some sound. these are black chicago voters. >> here's what they said. i feel like he had a better job than biden has. sure, i know what she has, but i know she locked up a lot of people. i'll just we cases and stuff like that to say that people always don't get fired. the same day i, i wouldn't worry about her affordable care policy. i just feel for whoever comes up against that saying i'm voting for mr. trump. and why? because he's about me. >> what are you hearing about trump and black voters and which way they're they're thinking about leaning? >> well, initially, when biden was in the race,

black voters were excited about trump. and then harris joined the race and the excitement kind of way because i think that people forgot that she's not here because she's the best candidate. she's not here because she's the candidate that you selected. >> if you are a democrat who are voting in a primary, she's a candidate that they gave us and they gave us that candidate because they realize that there was an issue with the black vote. what you are hearing from those black men here and people, women here in chicago is the sentiment of people around the country. now, let me just say this to about kamala harris. kamala harris is a part of the current administration. so whatever policies, economic changes, changes at the border that she wants to make could

be made. why do we have to wait five months? you are already a part of the administration. you are the sitting vice president. yep. it's a very good point denied to you. now, these are some of the chicago issues. on to put them on the screen. crime, guns, economy and immigration. you look at president trump's numbers on all of them. on the right hand side, he's got lead sometimes a significant lead. >> and yet, of course, chicago's blues. so, you know, it's going to be kamala harris country. but boy, the issues are all in his favor. >> yes, i think, you know, it's important to remember, i think black voters remember four years of president trump. and i think that it's very clear that he is the strongest candidate on all these issues, whether it's the economy, the border, it's crime and immigration. he's the strongest candidate. and i think black voters will continue to remember that. and i think the media continues to create this fake narrative around her that isn't real. >> yeah, it really is. i want to put this this is usa today out of trust. and this is do you some black voters greet the harris

campaign dnc with apathy in chicago? here's why. anthony beale, an alderman from the predominantly black ninth ward in the city's far south side, said he has constituents who have waited years for public housing vouchers, while migrants who have only recently arrived in the u.s. are receiving six months housing assistance. it's not fair to give illegal immigrants something that you cannot and will not give the residents. >> well, one of the things that kamala harris said tonight is that she is going to strengthen the pathway to citizenship. so that means that dealing with the borders and with the immigration problem that we're having, the migrant crisis here in chicago is not really at the top of our list. and i also want people to keep in mind that our mayor right now is in a process of trying to borrow $300 million to give money to chicago's board of education, except that money is not to be given for programs. it's not necessarily paid teachers salary, but it is to

make up for the millionaire's tax that he didn't get so that he could take that money to take care of migrants while our kids are still suffering, while we still don't have training programs in our schools so that when our kids graduate, they can have viable jobs. >> and, you know, chicago and illinois have been begging politicians for years to invest in black communities, and somehow the money's just never quite there. yes, i think it's very convenient that all of a sudden they have millions of dollars for illegal immigrants when they didn't have this money to invest into the black community. you know, i think it's a slap in the face to a lot of black voters. >> yeah. janaya thomas kind of trusts. thank you both. well, coming up, fox news tonight has been digging into his record here in california. and what better way than to ask the voters themselves about her progressive policies and how it affected the golden state and what that could mean for a couple of harry's presidency.

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californian, i think it's very easy. as a californian to delude yourself into thinking that you're living in this paradise. you go to the beach, you have beautiful weather and you have some awesome bear flag tacos. but when you walk back home, you walk back home to your two bedroom apartment that you split with four strangers that you met on craigslist for $4,000 a month. you walk to the other side of the street to avoid the the homeless guy on the corner that has fentanyl that came up through the steve we call a border. and you narrowly get you narrowly missed getting hit by a police car from the last police officer that's willing to do his job because the criminals don't stay in jail anymore as a result of the policies enacted by really the oligarchs in california, the gavin newsom's, the nancy pelosi's the lay. >> dianne feinstein. and kamala harris is a large part of that, too. so you left for a reason, i'm guessing. here. thank you. hold on one second, eden. gavin newsom said the country is on the wrong track tonight. and then brad baer tried to press him on that.

>> so listen to the sound and we'll get your take. watch. >> why? why is it that man, we've been polarized and traumatized the last three and a half years have been difficult the last five, six, seven years. it's a biden-harris administration, the trump administration, covid. >> i mean, the challenges. yes. trying to walk it back. but he talked himself right into that one, saying it's on the wrong track. these are kamala harris tracks that he's talking about. >> you know, it's really interesting watching this entire process. i think that there's this deflection away from the fact that kamala harris has been leading our country for the last three and a half years with biden. she is currently part of the administration and in the white house. and the track that we're on for the last three and a half years, all the hardships we're experiencing, the cost in housing increases, the cost and grocery increases utilities . my brother's utility bill in long beach went up 300%, i think, in the last six months. so the track that we're on is the track that the biden and harris administration has placed us on. >> so it's i think it was a little slip of the tongue there. i think that he maybe didn't

necessarily realize what he was saying, but he let the cat right out of the bag and he called out his own party and the administration that's currently in control of things . he second night in a row, he's literally dissed this administration. and then tried to walk it back and it didn't work. brit, back to you. she won't talk about her policy. she really won't talk about anything. the only thing she'll say is that she is a prosecutor from california, won't talk about any cases in particular. she's a tough prosecutor. >> at some point, she's got to put the rubber to the road and come up and say, here's what i stand for. well, we would hope that she asked to at some point. that remains to be seen. i think we're 33 days into her candidacy, and yet that question is yet to be answered, that there is a there's a lack of accountability that goes into the the policies that she's putting forth or really the lack thereof as far as policies that she's put forth, this new tax plan that she's laid out is going to be the most destructive thing that we've seen across

the country. and as a californian, i know a lot about destructive taxes, gas taxes, state income taxes, which texas has none. this this unrealized capital gains tax is going to kill the economy. >> yeah, you're exactly right. and a lot of people have pointed that out. and i never say it's never going to be enacted. but i want to end with this, if i can, eden, because, you know, we talked a lot about rfk jr. and we had nicole shanahan on a couple of nights ago with our exclusive. and, you know, she didn't let the cat out of the bag, but there's a very strong possibility that rfk will not only endorse donald trump tomorrow, but there's a chance he will join this administration, maybe hhs secretary. >> who knows? what do you think about that? i think that that would be a dream come true for a large population of voters across the united states, including myself. so i was really hoping for a trump kennedy ticket. i think that a lot of my mom friends and people that i'm close to are hoping for the same thing as a people. we so many people that i know and respect deeply are hoping for more unity, but we really

want to move towards unity. and it's interesting, the dnc, the last four days, like i've heard so much hate and vitriol in attacking right over and over and over. but they're also claiming to be this party of joy. and i feel like kennedy and trump joining forces provides that opportunity for us to actually heal and for the to these two different very different people to actually come together and to unify us as one. in that sense, i think that the thing that biden had said he promised he was going to do when he came into office with unification, we have not seen we're more divided now than we have ever been. and i think that kennedy and trump joining forces, i also think that trump had the good intuition and the good instinct to drain the swamp. and i think that kennedy knows how to do that in murray james, bret nelson, thank you both for coming on. we appreciate. well, the dnc concluding its fourth and final night just hours ago and we want to know your thoughts. did you actually learn anything new about the democrats agenda, their policies, anything? let us know. and instagram at trace gallagher will read your responses coming up in the

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fourth and final night. what did learn anything about the agenda at all? kevin corke not much. i do think they're targeting of women will either really work or ultimately backfire if they feel like they're being pandered to. >> i think that's the move for them tonight. it's very good point. charlie paynter did you learn anything about the agenda? everything was pretty standard as expected. i did learn that they dropped 100,000 balloons after her speech though. >> that's a good agenda. joe concha, what did you learn? i learned that, oh, i'm sorry, connie. that was for joe. go ahead, joe. >> oh, fine. i learned that beyonce and taylor swift had better things to do because apparently they were supposed to be here and that didn't happen. i also learned that donald trump apparently is now in charge of the government and has been for the last three and a half years. instead of joe biden and kamala harris and cotton. charles, what did you learn? i learned that the democrats

party is a great party, but there is no substance. yeah, fair enough. christina coleman didn't learn anything new. nothing new on policy, no specifics. i'm still waiting to hear it. >> yeah. alicia krauss, what did you learn? i learned that the democrats are really tricky and really savvy in trying to run like republicans. i mean, you actually had to say, oh, hey, come on, is going to be tough on the border or she's going to be tough on crime. and i'm sitting over here going, wait, what? yeah, but if you're the average voter, you might see that clip and him. >> so the republican party needs to watch out. i was very surprised that tim walz went after j.d. vance in the yale thing, because you would think that as a coach, as a teacher, he would say, great, good for you. it was a mistake. and i think he would take it back if he could. i also watched every minute of every night, didn't learn a darn thing about the policies in the agenda. >> did you actually learn anything about the agenda? >> yes. 5% on x, 8% on instagram, pam. and the responses, michael says there were no winners. we should all be worried

about the democratic machine for the next 75 days and beyond. jim moret says president trump was the winner. they said his name over 200 times at the dnc. they said it a lot more than that. but yeah, that was that was one of them, deborah says i was the loser because i had to listen to this. scott says winner kamala harris for tricking the democratic party into replacing a failing president with a failed candidate. loser biden for being replaced by a candidate as inept as as he was, will says, democrats want you to vote on feelings. republicans want you to vote on facts. and joshua, joshua rounds this out saying this was nothing more but a circus and trump roast. that's all it was. his name was said hundreds of times. thank you all for joining america's late news. and thank you for watching fox news at night. i'm trace gallagher back here tomorrow night. >> we're going to start blanketing the east coast with fentanyl, started experimentation with production

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for parents who want better schools for their kids. for workers worried about a security permit for themselves, kamala will fight for for any one of our allies anywhere in the world wondering if america still has your back. remember this kamala will fight for you. and when she fights, we will. and we are living in a time when some are trying to divide us, to separate us in ways that make it difficult for us to come together. well, let my sister reject that view where others push darkness. kamala sees promise, where others feel detachment, kamala fosters connection, where others want to drag us back to the past.

let me say i know there are people of various political views watching tonight, and i want you to know i promise to be a president for all americans. you can always trust me to put country above party and self, to hold sacred america's fundamental principles from the rule of law, to free and fair elections, to the peaceful transfer of power. >> kamala harris reaching across party lines as she delivered her high stakes speech, accepting the democratic nomination for president. her speech aimed to convince voters she's the change they're looking for. hello, everyone, on this final night of the dnc. i'm jonathan hunt, live in los angeles. >> hi, molly. hello, jonathan. i am molly. line in new york city.

harris addressing everything from taxes, abortion, gun safety to the need for a ceasefire in gaza. she also didn't shy away from taking her opponent head on again. >> consider his explicit intent to set free, violent, extra chemists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the capitol. >> his explicit intent not to jail journalists, political opponents, and anyone he sees as the enemy. his explicit intent to deploy our active duty military against our own citizens is considered consider the power he will have, especially after the united states supreme court just ruled that he would be immune from criminal prosecution.

just imagine donald trump, with no guardrails to wrap up the final night of the dnc, we're joined by fox news correspondent conor hanson live at the united center. >> hello, conor. hi, jonathan. vice president harris delivered a wide ranging speech after accepting her party's nomination. it's the most important address of her career so far. she hopes the momentum built up by democrats this week will start to translate to the polls. >> she started out her speech talking about her personal story growing up with humble beginnings and what she learned from her single mother. she highlighted what she sees as some of her biggest accomplishments from her time as a prosecutor in the senate and as vice president. >> and every day in the courtroom, i stood proudly

before a judge, and i said five words, kamala harris, for the people. and to be clear and to be clear, my entire career, i've only had one client. >> the vice president also touched on foreign policy, saying a harris white house would stand with ukraine and with nato. >> it was also one of only a few times the war between israel and hamas came up this week. >> harris says she stands with the jewish state and its right to defend itself, but added that the palestinian people have the right to safety and dignity. take a listen. >> with respect to the war in gaza, president biden and i are working around the clock because now is the time to get

a hostage deal and a ceasefire deal done. >> vice president harris even touched on immigration, saying she would bring back the bipartisan bill that stalled out in congress. it's an issue former president donald trump hit on while visiting the border in arizona and many see as a weak spot for democrats. >> the immigration, the it's very simple. the bill was horrible. it would have allowed millions of people to pour into our country would have been horrible. it was a horrible bill. it a joke. she doesn't need a bill. i didn't have a bill to close border at the safest border. >> and now that the convention's over. all eyes will be on the first debate between vice president harris and former president trump in just a few weeks in philadelphia jonathan. >> yeah, that is going to be a fascinating night. connor hansen, thank you so much. >> kamala harris, of course, got a standing ovation after

making her case to her party and indeed the country. the vice president closing out the convention with the keynote address and accepting her spot on the democratic ticket. >> and it was mostly my mother who raised us. she taught us to never complain about injustice, but do something about it in the courtroom. i stood proudly before a judge ,and i said five words kamala harris for the people. and as president, i will bring together labor and workers and small business owners to free and fair elections, to the peaceful transfer of power. i accept your nomination to be president of the united states of america. >> it's official. so did the vice president deliver on this final night to answer that? democratic consultant and former house judiciary

committee chief counsel julian epstein, independent political strategist rich rubino, and former california republican party chairman, author and lawyer tom del vaccaro. welcome to you all. julian, to you first. how did she do? did she win hearts, minds and votes? >> oh, i think she was up to the moment. and i think, look, the democratic convention, a master class and just perfect, near perfect choreography. it showed the party is unified . the speeches, particularly obama's speeches, were and i think kamala harris did a superb job tonight. she showed a very compelling personal history, her delivery and her just sort of her telegenic city was it was just absolutely spot on. that's the good news for the democrats, the bad news for democrats that most of them, i think, are who are living in a bubble, don't want to admit is that there was nothing in the speech that i saw that reaches out to the 6% of the 6% of undecided voters.

she is underperforming still from clinton and biden in the state of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. and unless if the polling error right now is favoring the democrats the way it was in 216 and 220, then this race is is a dead heat. and unless she does more to reach out to the undecided, it's i don't know if she's going to be successful. >> tom, let me come to you. for a republican voice on this. >> how do you think she did? well, i thought her delivery was really pretty good. she's come a long way since she ran against me for u.s. senate in california in 2016. but she's simply reading at this stage and reading won't cut it. we'll have to see how she does in the debate. when i debated her, she was terrible on her feet and couldn't answer questions. and the worst part about tonight was she didn't say anything about any specifics about what you did,

what she's going to do, build 3 million homes. america doesn't think she's going to build 3 million homes. they know that. so we still don't know what she intends to do. although the new york times spilled the beans on the largest tax cut in history, the way independents want answers, not platitudes. she had a lot of platitudes tonight. rich, you know, a thing or two about a strategy. and this is someone that needs to win over voters over in some of the key energy states across america, in pennsylvania, wisconsin. >> your thoughts on how she did? yes, absolutely. and if you saw governor cooper right before, way before, who was kind of way before vice president harris came on immediately, said where is everyone from my home state, north carolina. where is everyone from pennsylvania? where is everyone from nevada? it's really just eight states are essentially going to decide this election. i think vice president harris, i think her speech was twofold. on the one hand, she did animate the base. the other thing to try to do is i think she tries to do trying to bring in those 4 to 6% of people who live in these very swing states over to the

democratic fold. she tried to do that by saying essentially, you can trust me. and she did speak in platitudes in many respects. but i also think that she may have tried to what she did. i think she really it was a really delicate balancing act when it came to the issue of gaza. she tried to, first of all, began by saying by praising israel and said the united states will always defend israel. then she said she talked about the situation in gaza and said essentially that she is working around the clock to try to try to try to bring the two, to try to bring the sides together and try to bring a ceasefire. and whether it be good enough for folks in the i don't know that there is there is fear, i think, on some of the left, the democrats, some of the more liberal voters will either vote for jill stein or will not vote at all. >> all right, rich, tom, julian, thank you so much. back to you guys throughout the next couple of hours. kamala harris, of course, leaving few stones unturned during her keynote address. the vice president dug deep into her childhood and legal career. >> she also made a few promises

for her potential future in the oval office. joining me live to talk about the major takeaways from the final night, professor, international relations and politics at pepperdine university and fox news contributor kieran skinner. pepperdine university school of public policy dean pete peterson and fox news contributor leslie marshall. >> welcome to you all at our west coast headquarters here, where it's not as late as it is for molly. >> karen, let me come to you first. we had an interesting discussion earlier where you were making the point that kamala harris was really trying to regain some of the verbiage, some of the labels, some of the voting population that democrats have left behind in to some extent over the last decade or so. >> expand on that for us. yes, actually, i think the entire convention was teeing up for her speech because she reinforced speeches and points that were made over the last couple of days. and for me, taking the 30 foot

view of this whole convention and her speech in particular, it was an attempt to re forge the new deal coalition, the coalition of the south, the cities, the rural areas that had dominated since fdr and the depression that carried the democratic party to victory after victory in the 20th century. but by the 21st century, that party had become the party of the elites. and as you saw, despite the rhetoric that we will do everything, we'll do social justice, we'll do national security, all of these things. it was a convention, political, economic and cultural elites surrounding vice president kamala harris. but the message is, we're going to bring all these people together because we need them. and the reason that one of the key reasons that donald trump won in 2016 is that he was cutting in to the working class vote. he was cutting in to the rural vote. they are now trying to bring all those people back.

>> absolutely. and that's what this speech was about tonight. do you think they will have any success in bringing those people back? because i think karen is absolutely right. there was definitely an appeal to. >> some of those voters who have gone to the trump republican party. absolutely. and especially tonight. right. this was really one of the more patriotic evenings that we've seen out of the democratic party in many yet to see the democratic convention crowd chanting usa, usa and waving the flags was quite remarkable. it was. but at the same time, one of the challenges that we've talked about before that kamala harris has is she is running as an incumbent and all the forward looking that she's attempting to have americans in american voters do. it really does take looking away from the last four years, so many of the things that she's saying that she wants to do. many people are asking, well, where was this over the last four years? and even today, which tonight, which was focused a lot on foreign policy, many of the challenges that she looks forward toward are ones that her administration or part of her administration really

were a party to. >> and, leslie, that that is a fair point. >> it's not an easy line to walk, saying we need to fix all of these things. when you've been part of the administration and for the past four years and had a chance to fix some of those. >> absolutely not. i'm sorry. i don't know where i am trying to be very respectful here. but, you know, in the history classes that i attended, the vice president's role is not only very clear, but very limited. they do not sign executive orders. they do not write policy. >> they do not vote legislators minds. leslie, you're going to be tied to those policies. >> yes, but there's a different you're tied to those policies. but one of the things that i've heard republicans criticizing her for and in asking what was going to happen tonight in which i think we saw is how is she going to show a change and a difference from her from joe biden. >> now, there are some things where she was not changed, and i think that's because she believes in them strongly with israel and gaza as an

example. >> but -- but at the same time, i think she did show that, you know, she you know, this i think there was a generational shift, if you will, when she was speaking. >> and i think that does speak strongly to those independent voters because, you know, conventions, the speeches lead up to the nominee in that final night and the final speech. >> but in addition, when you when you when you're speaking, you're speaking to your base and preaching to the choir, largely. and i think what she got is did appeal to some of those. >> all right. got to wrap it up here. we got a truncated hour this hour. >> back to all three of you throughout the night. meantime, kamala harris' home state of california, our home state, well-represented on stage at the dnc this week, but notably, notably absent, at least on the stage, governor gavin newsom, who described what he offers to the campaign as a solution in search of a problem. so was the governor benched? yeah, probably not. >> we'll get into it, though, after the break. >> if you're living with hiv,ffe

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he spoke to bret beyer, the host of a special report about what he calls the new energy in the democratic party right now, you feel the fresh air of progress. >> you just do. you can't deny that. and there's a stale air of normalcy, a steeler of the past represented in donald trump. and i mean this i mean this sincerely. i know this tough audience that's going to take it from me. he's terrified of it himself. he's less interesting. i'm less interested. he's not as entertaining. he seems way off his game for some time now. >> ever since that his convention speech, something. for more on this, let's turn to fox news contributor steve hilton. great to have you here in the studio with us. >> steve. the fresh air of progress. something seems off with with trump. how do you think voters will take that coming from california's governor gavin newsom role in this convention i think captures better than anything else the truth about this convention, which

is the whole convention, is a carnival of lies and dishonesty. and no one represents that more than him. so gavin newsom probably is the single person in this country, apart from donald trump himself ,most rooting for donald trump to win the election. >> why? why so? >> because he because he wants his only shot. it's his only shot. he desperately wants kamala harris to lose. and yet, through gritted teeth, there he is praising her. isn't it amazing giving her the final delegates and even the specifics. he's praising her as someone who's fought for for justice, for social justice, racial justice, all these things. she as d.a. in san francisco, which he perfectly well covered up child sex abuse. she did a lenient plea deal when she was california attorney general for a political crony, a predator. she when was d.a. in san francisco, again, as he knows perfectly well, she had 1500 cases overturned because of her mismanagement and incompetence on and on. and yet he's praising her to the skies. it's laughable do you think

that it's going to be a tough sell for democrats to the rest of america when you have this california feel and history to a lot of the background of kamala how well it's up to the republican party to make that case? because, again, when you saw all those democrats around, him when he made that announcement, you had nancy pelosi, he called it the great state of pelosi, smug, self-righteous, patting themselves on the back on what a great job they've done. it's a disaster in california. their policies, kamala harris, his agenda, failing on every this is the state with the highest unemployment in america ,the highest poverty rate in america, the highest housing costs. she about housing. it's her policies in california that have given us the worst housing crisis. we have the highest energy costs. we have the worst climate in america ten years in a row. that's the result of the kamala harris policy agenda. and so it's really important for the republican party to make that case and say,

look, you know, that's gavin newsom constantly says we're a model for the nation, but in exactly the wrong way. and that's what the party and the trump campaign to make clear. >> we shall see if they do make that case, particularly in the debate on september 10th, if former president trump can make it sorry, we're a little short today. we'll be back to you the next couple of hours anyway. >> molly yeah, things are getting a little tight there. but for more on the final day of the dnc vice president, harris officially accepting her party's nomination for president. >> much more to come coming up . fellow americans, fellow americans, i. i love our country. with all my heart. everywhere i go. everywhere i go. and every one i meet, i see a nation that is ready to move forward.

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president of the united party of man. it her moment to shine. democratic presidential nominee kamala harris making her centerpiece speech as the democratic convention in chicago draws to a close. hello, everyone. >> i am molly line in new york. hi, jonathan. hi, molly. i'm jonathan hunt in los angeles. the vice president gave us clearest picture yet of what a kamala harris administration might look like. donald trump tried to throw your votes when he failed. he sent an armed mob to the united states capitol where they assaulted law enforcement officers. he would use the immense powers of the presidency of the united states not to improve

your life, not to strengthen our national security, but to serve the only client he has ever had himself. we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back to when donald trump tried to cut social security and medicare. we are not going back to when he tried to get rid of the affordable care, when insurance companies could deny people with preexisting conditions. we are not going to let him. the department of education that funds our public school and more democratic gold stars took the stage over the course of the evening to back harris up to wrap up the final

night of the dnc in a nice little bow. we now go to fox news correspondent connor hanson. hello again, connor. >> hi, jonathan. and we're still hearing the occasional popping of balloons behind us as the united center gets cleaned up. but it was just about 2 hours ago vice president harris delivered that lengthy speech, a wide ranging speech after accepting the party's nomination. >> probably the most important address of her career so far. >> as we head into this election, hoping to keep that momentum going for the democrats, she started out telling her personal story, talking about her humble beginnings and what she learned from her single mother. she highlighted what she sees as some of the biggest accomplishments from her time as a prosecutor in the senate. and as the vice president. >> take a listen. >> in the courtroom, i stood proudly before a judge and i said five words kamala harris

for the people. and to be clear and, to be clear, my entire career, i've only had one client. >> the. >> the vice president also touched on foreign policy, saying a harris white house would stand with ukraine and with nato, who is also one of only a few times the war israel and hamas came up this week. harris says she stands with the jewish state and its right to defend itself, but also added that the palestinian people have the right to safety and dignity with respect to the war in gaza. president biden and i are working around the clock because now is the time to get a hostage deal and a ceasefire deal done. >> and vice president harris

even touched on immigration, saying she would bring back the bipartisan bill that stalled in congress earlier this year. it's an issue trump hit on while visiting the border in arizona. and something many see as a weak spot for democrats. the immigration, the it's very simple. the bill was horrible. it would have allowed millions of people to pour into our country, would have been horrible. it was a horrible bill. it was a joke. she doesn't need a bill. i didn't have a bill like close the border at the safest border in the history. and now here we are. both parties, conventions are. now all eyes will be on the first debate between vice president harris and former president trump in just a few weeks in philadelphia. >> jonathan conner hansen is. the balloons continue to pop at the united center. >> thanks very much. molly, a lot of work there. 100,000 balloons. kamala harris did take quite a few swings at her opponent.

it did not go unnoticed, as conor just mentioned. trump called in to fox news just a couple of minutes after she her highly anticipated speech. >> this is why didn't she do the things that she's complaining about all these things as she talked about, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. we're going to do everything. but she didn't do any of it. she could have done it three and a half years ago. she didn't talk about china. she didn't talk about fracking. she didn't talk about crime. she didn't talk about 70% of our people are living in poverty. she didn't talk about housing. really. the trade deficit. she presided over the weakest border in the history of our country. the it's an invasion. i was there today, as you know, bret. it's an invasion of our country taking place at our border. >> our former president trump talking to bret moments after kamala harris wrapped her speech there. now let's go back to our panel, democratic consultant and former house committee

chief counsel julian epstein, democratic consultant and former house. that's still julian's. it's in that twice. we also got rich rubino there i was an independent political strategist and. we have former california republican party chairman, author and lawyer tom del bechara. >> tom, let me come to you first here. this is obviously an attack line. >> republicans are going to use what the former president was outlining there that you can't say you're going to solve america's problems when you bear some responsibility, presumably as vice president for the issues america currently faces. >> she's running a great campaign. >> she doesn't have to tell her what us what plans are. she can deny plausible responsibility for being part of the biden administration. and she lies about trump's intentions that what a great

way to get things done, if you can. the only question now is whether going forward she's going to have to answer some questions. i will also note this. i'm here in california. i've known this person for a considerable period of time. i debated her twice. she has no record where she actually accomplish these things. did she show up in court a few times? yes, she did. she was known as the photo op attorney, meaning she'd show up for photo ops, but she didn't manage the place. and now the country is supposed to put her in charge of the largest entity in the history of mankind. >> julian, do you know kamala harris has had this long honeymoon period with the media? it appears to be continuing at least through the dnc now. >> but our own peter doocy has been on the ground there, brilliant and good humored. he took a shot at maybe getting an interview. take a listen. hmm. >> madam vice president, my congratulations. are you ready for your fox news

today? i'm working for it. >> we are all ready for interview. >> the press conference. when is it coming, julian it should happen soon. look, and it should happen continually as as obama and clinton did. they showcased their definition their their superiority. and on the policy issues. and that was to their credit, they also pivoted the political center. both clinton and obama and to some extent, biden. and that was to their political credit and the campaign of joy is working for harris now because it's giving the double haters a place to go that's younger and more optimistic and that's sort of fine for now. the problem with it is it's out of with the public mood. and the public mood is one of great dissatisfaction with the democrats over the last four years. so at some point, this sort of honeymoon period comes to the end. and then the question that the

democrats have got to be careful of is all you have to do is look at mike dukakis in 1988, the sort of the good feelings on that come out of a campaign can give way quite quickly if the other side starts to get traction on the issues. and this is why i think it's a big mistake for harris to be ducking the press. i think she's got to engage with the news media because otherwise the press is going to sniff weakness and they're going to sniff that. the democrats in the campaign are admitting that she cannot withstand sort of the heat in the kitchen from a tough media interview. i think she's got to do that. and i think she also has to pivot to the political center, which she didn't. and the economic speech last week, this is exactly has been the recipe for success of previous successful democratic nominees. and it's not what the campaign is doing right now. so i think there's a little bit of magical thinking going on with the democrats that they think this campaign of joy can be they can it into the november election. i think that's

a little dangerous, rich part of pivoting to the center, if you like. it seemed to me in this speech tonight was trying to reclaim patriotism as value, which i think has been taken away from the democrats over the last decade or perhaps more. but you saw that charm usa, usa. we saw them waving all the flags. it was interesting, i think, that the party tonight threw kamala harris tried to reclaim that sense of pride in the nation, which they'd lost to some extent. >> yes, absolutely. that was the democrats were seen as the party of patriotism, basically from harry truman through lyndon johnson. it was 1968 when there were a lot of protests, 1972. the republicans tried to use it against george mcgovern, democratic nominee. and they were that was where they began based on the vietnam war, became an inflection point that began republicans saying that democrats weren't as patriotic, that in 84 you

had the democratic national convention, which was in san francisco, and that allowed the republicans to call them san francisco. so this was really and it's really the political parties are really changing because if you listen to some of the speeches early on, leon panetta ,for example, talking about a very muscular foreign policy, talking about continued support of ukraine, mark kelly doing the senator from arizona doing the same thing, the republicans are becoming more and more less interventionist and the democrats are becoming more and more interventionist overseas. it's one thing, though, about mike dukakis, which is interesting because the caucus was ahead by 17 points in the summer of 1988, and he ended up losing 40 states at the end of the election by november. republicans are very good at going after him. so i think that you really have to look at you really got to look at that for anyone who thinks he's ahead, that she can go, that she can fall pretty fast. and in terms of politics, enjoy that worked for hubert humphrey, tried the same thing in 1968 and i'm pleased as punch the politics of joy. but it didn't quite work out for him because of vietnam

and the race riots at the time. >> some great points, great discussion there. rich, julian, tom, thank you so much. we're actually going to talk little bit now about some of those new polling numbers. >> it's been a big week for kamala harris and it seems that the the polls have shown it according to a gallup poll, she is six points ahead of trump in favorability. she is surging with both democrats and independents, not with republicans. the poll was released before she spoke. so could her speech change things? we shall see. let's in republican pollster dustin olson to discuss all of this. >> thank you so much. i've been really interested in talking with you about this because seen this really long honeymoon period for her. her popularity growing 13 percentage points in august. on the other side, donald trump slipping five points. what do you think of where things stand right now and could it change soon? >> it's interesting. last year in june, actually in july, i believe was on july 12th, right before biden dropped out,

kamala harris was actually at -16 point for and her net favorability that was less popular than joe biden, who was -16. and in another month, joe biden is actually only at -15 now. he's improved a little bit in the average. this is on real clear politics average of favorability. and she's now has just a negative of about 3% and the average of the favorability. so that's that's a pretty big climb. and what i would attribute it to is ultimately a really good month of coverage. we track this in our polling. we actually asked people who are the number one places that they get news will be very happy to know. the number one place people do get news is on fox news. but when you add up all the different legacy media, it does come to about half of the of the public gets the news there. and i do think the coverage has had a huge impact. no one really has seen this happen that often where you see that kind of a movement that does make a difference

and we do tend to see that affect the ballot numbers going forward, which we've seen the ballot numbers change and we see them at a dead even. and i would expect you have a couple of points boost after this week. >> yeah. my my question would be as this mountain she's climbing, she gets higher and higher up on the mountain. there hasn't a press conference. there hasn't been the debate. there hasn't been the interview yet. could the fall be particularly hard once you start to dig into substance? >> absolutely. so we always ask questions. listen, our polls and the american pulse, we will ask, you know, do you have a very favorable or somewhat favorable? >> the truth is that she is only getting somewhat favorable. people have kind of an idea of what she might be about, but they don't really know too many details. you see it in a lot of the interviews i've seen on fox tonight is that that's it is a problem for her that those aren't really strong. and that's also something you would expect for such a quick move. people don't have the deep seated positive feeling about her, but they do like

the change from biden. there is a big contrast there in our polling. only 47% say that she would be exactly the same as joe biden. that's quite a few people. but it's also not what you expect for the vice president to the president. >> so i do think that should be able to create some daylight between her and joe biden, which is necessary to get race dead even. but at the same time, the gallup poll is actually an outlier. donald trump has had some of his highest favorability years, actually, maybe his fame, his highest favorables, largely due to the assassination attempt. i believe, and also having a really good rnc himself. >> all right, dustin olson, thank you so much. our gratitude to you for joining us and bringing us these really interesting insights. >> and it'll be really interesting to see what happens the next couple of weeks with those poll numbers all across the board. thank you. thank you very much, jonathan. >> molly, a much rumored surprise beyoncé appearance didn't pan as perhaps some of us, including me and my daughters, might have hoped.

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>> vivek ramaswamy made a surprise appearance to the windy city to call on kamala harris to share her own vision . did she answer that call in her speech? the answer to that. we bring in one of its former colleagues, sarah sylla, and also democratic strategist antoine seawright. thank you both for joining us. antoine, to you first. what do you make of the vague making an appearance out there to begin with and also the call that he made, he essentially was saying, you know, there's a big debate going on here and we believe in this open debate. and he wanted her to to really explain vision. >> do you think she delivered? well, i felt as the face of this time, because i think kamala harris consistently sits being elevated to our parties has been telling the american people or interviewing with the american people not only about what she's been able accomplish and who she is throughout her career and what she's done, but also bits and pieces of what she will do into

the future while making the contrast which is a very critical element in any campaign about who and what she's up against. and so i thought as a with the staff, i think she did an incredible job of laying out. continue to introduce herself to the american people, laying out her vision for the future, but also reminding people what she's done and the experience she brings to the table. and lastly, but more importantly, she leaned in on foreign policy, which is a weak point. donald trump but it's a strength for her. and i think she did an incredible job being an american center candidate tonight and trying some great points there. sarah, bringing you in. everyone just kind of hit on something that i think that harris accomplish tonight a little bit. when she talked about ukraine and gaza, we began to see a little bit more of a formation of where she stands as far as national security is concerned. international relations. and as the country tries

to figure out, you know, what is the difference between her and biden, do you think she managed to kind of set her own footing out there tonight in her speech? i would love to say that she's setting her own footing, but at the same time, she is not the young gun here. she has been attached to the biden administration as the vice president for the last three and a half years. and on the flip side, you have to think about the fact that when you're accepting a presidential nominee and it's a barnburner speech, it's great that she took a few minutes to talk about her policy proposals. but how much is that going to resonate amongst all of the pomp and circumstance of the dnc? because it's not on her website. people won't remember that, though. remember the balloons when they get home, they have nothing to look at except for a volunteer sign up page and we'll bring you back in. president trump did respond to this. he made some of the points there that sarah was making. she has been there during these recent years. why weren't things getting

done? at the same time, she went pretty hard. president former president trump calling him an unserious man, that the consequences if he got back into office would be extremely serious. what do you make about how deliberately she went after her opponent? >> well, something that i would just say to say, kamala harris is running against the oldest candidate in american history for the presidency. so let's frame our conversation there. when it comes to 880. secondly, i think we have to do a better job as we lean towards the future and bear our way towards november of giving former president trump some muscle mass and muscle memory, muscle memory, talking about what he did when he had the office of the presidency for four years and what that meant for everyday american in this country. most people would summarize that as as a disaster. we have to give some muscle

mass to what he will do through his trump project 2025. if given the opportunity to govern for four more years. so i think she has to do that as well as others who will also be on the campaign trail for the next 70 some days. and i think she did a great job. the tonight was to start to lean in on a policy perspective because that's what the american people want. she wants to earn their trust and their vote. >> so it was smart for her to do that tonight. yeah, the president trump, of course, saying he has nothing to do with project 2025. and also worth noting that the oldest candidate for president bowed out and gave kamala harris this chance that she's enjoying right now. sara, our apologies. we have to move forward, but hopefully we'll be able to give you some more time here coming up later on. jonathan, clearly, molly, there were, of course, celebrations inside the united center in chicago as kamala harris formally accepted her party's nomination for president. outside, though, protesters

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kamala harris says she will be a president for every american if she wins no matter which side of the aisle anyone stands on. but of course, she faces some big ongoing challenges. >> harris drew from her childhood to say no matter the obstacles, she will get job done. joining me live to talk about the major takeaways from the final night, professor of international relations and politics at pepperdine university, and fox news contributor kieran skinner. pepperdine university school of public policy dean pete peterson and fox news contributor leslie marshall. >> welcome to you all. great to have you here in studio. i was just saying in the break that there had been some criticism, pete, about kamala harris and the democrats generally not talking about policy. she did bring up a lot of policy. i mentioned during the break, during this speech. >> you laughed. well, i mean, they smiled. >> well, i would say at least at the policy school at pepperdine, we understand that there's big difference between talking about policy goals and actually what are

the steps that you're going to take to realize those policy goals. >> and i think in this speech, to the degree that vice president harris talked policy, it was all about the policy goals, which, of course, sound all great. if we're going to build more housing, if we're going to improve education, if we're going to make america a safer place. those are all great, but really missing not only from this speech, but really anything leading up to it is how we're going to accomplish those goals. and i think to the degree we're going to talk about policy, it really should be what are the steps we're going to take to realize those goals? >> leslie, is it fair to expect kamala harris to have talked more how we get to the policy goals, or are these convention speeches designed just to say these are the goals? >> are you reading my mind? i think i should actually teach your students in a class what conventions about? >> because conventions, conventions are actually both democrat and republican, a pep rally. they are to the choir. it's not the time to get into

the weeds with data and specifics on policy. i would agree with you. she touched on a lot of policy and she is going to get into the specifics. but this is not the venue to do that. the people that are standing there are most of the people that are watching have already decided they love or hate her, just like those who watch donald trump have already decided they love or hate. i don't think watching that somebody is going to say, oh, i'm definitely going to vote for her if they were undecided. and that's what that's not what this this venue is about. that's not what this forum is about. we're going to see going forward after labor day that from her and should full steam ahead. >> karen, one of the policy issues that the vice president did talk about was this this ongoing war in gaza, the war between israel and, hamas. i just want to play of that, a bit of that and then get your reaction. here's the vice president. >> the respect to the war, gaza. president biden and i

are working around the clock because now is the to get a hostage deal and a ceasefire done. and let me be clear and let me be clear. i will always stand up for israel's right to defend itself and i will always is ensure israel has the ability to defend itself because the people of israel must never again face the horror that a terrorist organization hamas cause. >> and in the sentence after that, i think it was karen, she said, we must also protect the dignity, self-respect and right to self-determination . >> the palestinians. she was. she's really trying to thread the needle. please, everybody, with those policy goals, as pete would call them. >> yeah, i actually think she did a great job in this speech in terms of laying out for

the first time in her career, the broad strokes of, what a kamala harris administration would look like and to really go deeper. she said more tonight on foreign policy than i think i've ever heard her say. and she's almost 60 years old. but what she said tonight represent that the biden administration's point of view on the hamas israel war . and i think it really ties her to that war. the approach. and she's deeply implicated in this conflict in the specific sense that she herself has said, i'm the last person in the with the president when a major decision is made. and she said that in regarding the disastrous pullout of afghanistan. so i think that we are now hearing from her the confusion of the administration on big international conflicts. you know, in her own speech, in her own words, this is the first time we've heard

her really own that point of view, which was really consequential tonight, really is interesting to start hearing and talk about foreign policy and as pete says, all the other issues and as leslie says, will get to those issues. there's plenty of time. thank you all for being here. we'll see you again later in the show. >> molly, another of protests on the final day at the democratic national convention . and according to some of these demonstrators, democrats are mishandling the israel-hamas war. >> the war in gaza, it's just on. it's unbelievable. there's no way we should be arming israel to basically slaughter palestinians. now, syrians have been native to the land for years, hundreds of years, if not longer. it's a complicated issue. i think there needs to be more humanitarian aid by the u.s.. >> i couldn't possibly for genocide, joe, and i couldn't possibly vote for a donald trump. absolutely. neither of them, they're both

the, you know, parties of of imperialism and racism and, you know, so no absolutely, i won't be voting in november. >> hmm. >> we now go to the director of communications at aspi and white house media adviser for regional communications under president trump, hylton becker, and democratic strategist and head president brad hicks. thank you so much for joining us. brad, i want to start with you on this issue. >> there is a movement they call themselves the uncommitted movement of voters, pro-palestinian voters. this was really used against president biden during the earlier voting this season and to some success. they brag about success in michigan, getting a hundred and 1000 uncommitted votes. and in wisconsin, they say that the unstructured vote in the primary was more than double biden's margin of victory over trump in that state in 2020, sending this message that it could cost biden at the time a key swing state.

what could this potentially mean for vice president harris, who is now the head of the ticket brad? i think that's a great question. >> and i think what you saw all week long, i've been here in chicago. i think what you've seen all week is that democrats heard the message. they received the message, and you've heard just about every major speaker throughout the week address this issue, complaining, of course, and the bold declaration that vice president harris made tonight about being in favor of israel, arming and defending itself, but also being in favor of protecting the humanity the dignity and the right to return for recognition of the palestinians. and so that's a very, very difficult issue. but again, this is something that i think democrats heard the call, heard the heard the protests throughout the primary season, even outside of the convention center. and then we've heard this issue be addressed almost every by every major speaker, each this week. >> yeah, this is certainly a tough issue for democrats.

i think they do recognize that tonight, speaking among on the podium, john polen and rachel goldberg, their son hirsch is among the american hostages being held. >> take a listen to what they had to say tonight. >> at this moment, 109 treasured human beings are being held hostage edge by hamas in gaza. >> among the hostages are eight american citizens. one of those americans is our only. his name is hirsch. he's 23 years old. and like vice president kamala harris. hirsch was born in oakland, california. >> we've met with president biden and vice president harris numerous times at the white

house. they're both working tireless asleep for a hostage and ceasefire deal. >> it's heartbreaking to hear those parents hirsch's stories particularly remarkable. he lost an arm and yet survived . and as far as we know, there is at least some evidence to show that he is still being held and still alive. there were also parents of a hostage that spoke the republican convention. so there's a little bit of a lot of bipartisanship on this issue. i want to go to you on seeing this tonight, the impact of it and the bipartisan aspect of this issue. yeah, i mean, everybody wants to see the hostages come home for sure. >> and i and i'm glad that kamala went up there, talked about wanting the hostages come back. but what where the misstep happens is when we start talking about a cease fire, let's not forget a ceasefire was in play when october 7th happened. okay. so when we talk about a

cease fire paired with hostages, it kind of cuts out the weight of bringing the hostages home. we need to have a full impact strategy on just bringing the hostages back and eradicating hamas. we can't play footsie with this whole ceasefire talk. >> and it's really a part kamala and biden's strategy of appeasement. >> this wouldn't have happened october 7th wouldn't have happened if donald trump had been in the white house. kamala and biden have played appeasement with terrorists. the middle east, they unfrozen assets that sadly, is a dollars to iran. and then a month later, after they unfrozen those assets. october 7th happened. so i want to see kamala come out stronger about bringing the hostages home and eradicating hamas. >> hilton, beckham, brad hicks, thank you both. tough issue, tough talk. we appreciate your insights. jonathan. >> molly, the pomp and circumstance of the conventions now in the rearview

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>> now that both the republican and democratic national conventions are over, it's time to talk about next big date, september 10th. >> the trump harris presidential debate. so who is the best momentum as vp harris and former president trump prepare to face off for the first time on that debate stage with now jessica millan patterson, california gop chairwoman. >> jessica, great to see you here. i, for one, cannot wait for debate. i think it's going to be a fascinating display of both of their characters and, of course, the policies. >> it's going to be really exciting. we saw happened several months ago when president biden went up against president trump. we now have another candidate who doesn't spend any time with the press who does not do any sit down interviews, who is very rarely off of a teleprompter. i think this is going to be a huge challenge for vice president harris. >> and i think we certainly give the edge to president trump. >> i was intrigued by the "new york times" reporting

in the last few days that president trump may be tapping former democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbard as a stand in for his rehearsals, as a stand in for kamala harris. >> is that a smart move? does that help him? i think that's brilliant. you know, this is someone who absolutely eviscerated vice president harris when they were running for president in the 2020 cycle. and i think it is a really, really smart move by president trump and the trump campaign to bring in someone who not only has already debated vice president harris, but has also been on the stage with her and knows all of those moves. she knows the history, she knows what she's done. she can absolutely portray a vice president. harris. when president trump is practicing, there's always a lot of talk in the run up to this in various sections of the media about former president trump's difficulties or alleged difficulties

in handling a powerful woman standing there against him. >> how do you think he will in that sense? >> i don't think that's the case at all. we watched the debates between him and hillary clinton in the 2016 campaign. i don't think this is a problem for him at all. i think what you're going to see is you're going to see vice president harris in a position that she hasn't been in a very long time. you cannot erase the last three and a half years. >> no hollywood screenwriter can rewrite the last 20 years of history and record. she's going to have to defend. she's at 89% positive coverage from the media when it is just the two of them on the debate stage. >> it's going to be a very different story for her. >> it's going to be a really interesting debate to watch for and hopefully they both turn up for it. i think they will. do you? >> i have no doubt that president trump will be there. in fact, i think he'd be anywhere at any time. >> okay. all right. jessica millan patterson, thank you so much for being here. kamala harris, of course, laying out her plan for

america during the final night of the dnc if she were to win the election. >> the vice president wasting no time delay detailing her stance on several current issues. >> as president, i will bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed, and i will sign it into law. i will always stand up for israel's right to defend itself . as president, i will stand strong with ukraine and our nato allies. >> did the vice president win over any more voters? here to discuss. democratic consultant and former house judiciary committee chief counsel julian epstein, independent political strategist rich rubino, and former california republican party chairman, author and lawyer tom del vaccaro. thank you all for joining us. tom, let's start with you. we got a chance to hear a little bit more about national security, about her plans and saying that she's going to be standing with israel as well as ukraine

. your thoughts on what she laid out? >> well, you can't crash course foreign policy. she is weak on foreign policy. let's face it, she eviscerated the president of guatemala before she went to ask him for a favor, and then he rejected her. she didn't show up for the speech with netanyahu. so she doesn't have success to her name, even though she claimed tonight. and you can at the same time do what did in israel tonight, which is say is to say, yeah, stand with you. and then talk longer about the other side enough. that was the biggest applause line in her whole speech was talking about the other side. so look, this is always tough for a domestic politician to say to take on foreign policy issues. but the reality is during her administration, two wars were started and iran

is basically out of almost out of control. and china is holding sway as well. >> so that's a tough road for her. >> gillian, sticking with foreign policy, the gaza war, obviously a difficult issue for the democrats given the progressive wing of the party and many young people very unhappy with how biden-harris administration has handled the war in terms of too much support, in their view, for israel. tonight, the vice president tried to thread the needle, if you like, standing behind israel, always defending israel, but also standing up for the dignity, respect and self-determination of palestinians, as she put it. >> did she do well, in your view, on that? >> i think she passed the test and only because most americans don't really understand what the war in gaza is about right now. but i think in terms of passing the political test, i think she thread the needle relatively well. only about 2% of voters are single issue voters on this issue. so not going to win or lose

a lot of voters on this issue. but what the west doesn't understand and they don't have the vocabulary to understand is this is not issue about two states or even palestinian rights. all of the west and israel agrees with a two state solution. the people that don't agree with the two state solution is hamas. in fact, hamas has said and they have contemplated as part of their strategy the destruction of gaza because they think the cost to israel is is greater than it is to themselves. they've said the only thing they care about is that they're left standing at the end of this fight. hamas is an iranian army. they could care less about the palestinian issue. they are interested in a racist ,bigoted expansion of the iranian etymology. this this this doesn't really have that much to do with the palestinian issues. israel agrees with a two state solution. this is about iranian expansionism and colonialism, and the west just doesn't have the vocabulary to understand this. the west can only understand this through the vocabulary of culture wars.

and that's the big mistake that i think democrats and nearly everyone else is making on this issue, which we only have about 30 seconds. >> but i want to get you in quickly. because of these uncommitted voters, they might be a small contingent, but they claim they have the political to make an impact. >> your thoughts? yes, absolutely. and specially in the critical swing states, the former blue states of wisconsin, michigan, there was a primary and there was nobody else in the. but there was no other major counties on the ballot. a and thousands of thousands of voted for uncommitted. just briefly, this remind there's a divide in the democratic party that divide in the democratic party. i'll take the poor as a vacuum. and it does seem that vice president harris is moving too far to the too far to the right on this issue. if they don't think it's moving far to the left, if jill stein and cornel west there to try to siphon off some of those votes. >> rich, thank you very much. the convention's now history and the real work of the campaign begins. >> more on that coming up. we're going to start blanketing east coast as fashionable started experimentation

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where others want to drag us back to the past. let me say. i know there are people of various political views watching tonight and i want you to know i promise to be president for all americans. >> you can always trust me to put country above party and self to hold sacred america's fundamental principles from the rule of law to free and fair elections to the peaceful transfer of power. >> kamala harris trying to reach across party lines as she delivered her high stakes speech accepting the democratic nomination for president. her speech aimed to convince voters she's the change they're looking for. hello, everyone. on this final night of the dnc . >> i'm jonathan hunt, live

in los angeles. hi, molly. hello, jonathan i am molly line in new york. harris addressing everything from abortion, gun safety to the need for a ceasefire in. she also did not shy away from taking hits against her opponent again consider his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the capitol. his explicit intent to jail journalists, political opponents and anyone he sees as the enemy. his except intent to deploy our active duty military against our own citizens. consider. consider the power he will have, especially after the united states supreme court

just ruled that he would be immune from criminal prosecution in. >> just imagine donald trump with no guardrails. >> all right. not to put a bow on the last night of the democratic national, we go to fox news correspondent chin lee painter to you. >> hey, good evening or good morning. i guess just hours ago, vice president kamala harris brought the crowd of thousands at the united center arena to their feet as she took the dnc stage to deliver the most important speech of her political career. and harris began her historic nomination acceptance speech by detailing her background, her middle class roots, the values her parents instilled in her, and how she officially accepted her party's nomination. she said she did so on behalf of everyone whose story, like hers, could only be written in the greatest country on earth. i accept your nomination to be

president of the united states of america. >> and for nearly 40 minutes, harris outlined her path for america. if elected this november from standing with nato and ukraine to israel, the need for a ceasefire in gaza. she also touched on taxes and the economy, reproduction rights and immigration, saying she would bring back the bipartisan border bill that stalled in congress. but she also turned a sharp focus on her opponent with stirring warnings. >> former president trump returning to power. also president trump responding to that, calling in to fox news immediately after harris' speech, criticizing her for failing to focus more on key issues. watch. >> well, the biggest reaction is why didn't she do the things that she's complaining about? all of these things as she talked about, we're to do this. we're going to do that. we're going to do everything. but she didn't do any of it. >> she could have done it three and a half years ago. she could do it tonight.

>> and now we look ahead to the two candidates meeting face to, face in what will no doubt be a heated debate currently set for september 10th. >> back to you guys. yes, a great tease ahead. >> charlie painter, thank you. jonathan molly. >> let's bring in our panel now for more on final night of the democratic national convention. with us are democratic consultant and former house judiciary committee chief counsel julian epstein, who's so good, i named him twice the last hour, independent political strategist rich rubino and attorney author of the lessons of the american civilization and divided, and former chairman for california republican party, tom del vaccaro. rich, let me start with you and let's look forward a little bit now. the reviews are right now, i think, for for the for the speech generally she's thought to have done pretty well. >> kamala harris. but it's very different to going from reading a prompter in a big venue like that to debating a man like

former president donald trump on the debate stage. how do you see that big showdown on september 10th playing out? >> you know, that's categorically true. and i think that we really have no we really have no idea . the last time she was in a debate with 2020, there was one debate where she really took on joe biden in the presidential debates about the issue of the issue of bussing. and she kind of she probably and then there was another one other, though, where tulsi gabbard kind of took her on about her record as a prosecutor and marijuana convictions. she really didn't know what happened, but really didn't know quite what to say in that respect. so it'd be very interesting to see how she's going to do in this debate with donald trump. my guess is that they're doing a lot of preparation right now. she does have experienced debating, certainly going back to the 2016 campaign for senate. but to her time as attorney general, going back her time as d.a. so she's not a spring chicken. and that's going to be very interesting to see what her actual how well she's going to do against donald trump. >> rich, some great points there. julian, what do you think?

how will she do? i don't know how she will do. i mean, she did okay in the debates in 2019 and 20. but look, you know, the the honeymoon is like a summer romance. it gives way to the practical realities of the fall. the republicans are going to come at her on two issues. one is that she's unprepared and they're going to cite things like, the president saying she's a work in progress. her own staff complaining about her lack of preparedness and disorganization in the office. >> that's first hit. >> the second hit is that she's too far to the left. they're going to talk about abolishing ice and proposition 47 in california, which decriminalized store burglaries, sort of fracking on down the line. she's got to be ready on both issues. the preparedness issue, the too far left issue. and that's why i am fearful that the democrats are following the dukakis strategy of ignoring these charges rather than getting out in front of them. that's why i think to your point molly about the higher they rise, the harder they fall . the old the jimmy cliff thing,

the old jimmy cliff song. i think she's got to get out there before the debate. so i think she's got to do tough interviews. i think she's got to showcase she's got to showcase her skill in being able to handle tough questions and she's got to explain herself because it's one thing to change your position on one issue. it's another thing to change your position on eight issues on your entire portfolio. so i think she's got to get out in front of this stuff and not wait on it. >> tom how do you see it playing out on september 10th? >> i assume you are very confident that president trump will once again, as he did with president biden, come out the victor? >> well, i debated her twice in 2016. in the first debate, the after debate poll, me beating her in california among california voters. so she wasn't very quick on her feet. she's i call the one punch fighter, which is she had a good line the beginning, but didn't follow up very well. now, that was a long ago.

and she's had a lot of experience since then. she's better. that speech he gave tonight was much more forceful than she got, than what she gave last week. so if she improves that much, then i think she'll be okay. but the reality is that she does have a lot to defend. she won't have a teleprompter. she's going to be standing on that stage for 90 minutes. and that's not easy thing to do under this much pressure and this many lights and rich. >> now, finally, we want to wrap up the discussion with you, julian and tom, both making some great points, but there is a lot of information that we're still seeking about all of her positions and. perhaps she doesn't want to wait till the debate to try to clear those things up. so before that debate, which is creeping up fast, are we going to start see the press conference, the interview? >> is this coming? it's very to see a scenario where she doesn't do that if for no other reason than because she's giving an issue to donald trump, donald trump, and ask her, why have you done interviews? and it's just so easy.

it's just such an easy way for him to make that claim, to say that he's going to have to do the interviews eventually. so in a sense, why not do it beforehand? i mean, it's not like it's not like due to the political process. he's been a de she's been attorney general. she's been united states senator. she ran against she ran against congresswoman sanchez, which is a very formidable opponent back in california. so it's going to be as what as well as one of the guests on our panel. so it's going to be a very interesting process, but very hard to envision a scenario. >> she doesn't do that too easy for trump. julian, i know we were going to wrap it up with rich, but we got a little extra time here. let me come back you on this. how how is the pressure now within democratic circles? how many people are saying to kamala harris, do you believe knowing those people, you've got to get out there, you've got to talk, got to lay out policy, you've got to answer the tough questions do the tough interviews? >> is that pressure really building now for her?

it's a question about being. yes, it is. and it's a question about being bold or being or being too cautious. you know, there are enough democrats, including when biden was trying to stay in the white house, staff were saying, you know, she's not really prepared for the job. there's enough democratic fodder out there questioning, the preparedness issue. so, you know, if she sort of hides the press, it is almost an admission to the media that she can't sort of withstand the fire. and once the media smells blood on this. there's sort of a herd mentality, almost a fomo herd mentality, where the narrative can shift really quickly. that's why the sort of the cautious strategy that the caucus model of holding back, ignoring, i think, is is a really, really big mistake. i think it's much better for her to get out there and do not just one interview, but multiple interviews show that she's got the self-confidence, be able to handle the tough, tough questions in an unscripted format. >> and tom, quickly, j.d. vance and president trump, they're out there and they do take questions very often. yeah, and it's a stark

contrast. and this is you can't say that you are we've only been in this a month. i'm sorry. you're interviewing for the biggest on the planet, and you got to hit the ground running. so this will get to it is going to wear thin and for all the reasons that julian just said, the pressure is and she needs the experience before she hits that debate stage. otherwise, people are going to look back at this and say, well, they were right all along, she's not prepared. >> tom ridge, julian, great to have you all here. we'll see you again before the end of this hour. >> hour of a long night. donald trump spoke first to fox news about his reaction to vice president harris keynote speech. he said it ensured he was not at all impressed. now, some republicans have called on trump tone down some of his personal criticisms of kamala harris. >> focus purely on policy. fox news contributor steve hilton joins me live now in los angeles. welcome again, steve.

one thing president trump has been accused of a lot of things in his time. he has never been accused of running away from the media. he was live responding on, i guess we call it live true thing on whatever socialism live. true thing. during the speech and then called straight into bret and martha. good good policy. >> his part good decision. very good because he was able to frame the speech in exactly the right way. he made the central point, which will just resonate with people because it's so common and practical, and it gets to the heart of the lie. that's being perpetrated by the democratic party and by the harris campaign, which is to suggest that in some sense she is change. she's not change. she's more of the same. so as the president said, president trump said, she's listing all these things that she's complaining in terms of the state of the country. well, who's been presiding over the country? she has. and then she lists all the things she wants to put. right. well, she's in a position to do that now because she constantly claims that she's right at

the heart of the biden-harris administration as they regularly call it. you had susan rice the other week saying that kamala harris was an integral architect and executor of the agenda of the biden-harris administration. on the one hand, they're saying she's absolute. kamala harris is central to what they've been doing. and then at the same time, they're trying to make out, oh ,nothing to do with her. all the bad stuff. that was joe biden. she's going to be different. and president trump very, very simply and clearly out that lie immediately to a big audience. >> and i thought it was a very effective thing. do you think, though, that independents might be persuaded by story that as leslie marshall, one of our contributors, was putting it earlier, the vice president, the job the vice president, to quote some former guy, is not worth a pitcher full of warm spit, i think was the quote, maybe a little more now. but the vice president doesn't really do much so. >> what, she can't be held responsible? does that sell to independents

? >> well, they're the ones that are saying that she does do a lot. i mean, it's harris herself saying that she's the one that said, for example, of afghanistan. i'm the last was the last person in the room. so they can't have it both ways . but i think to the to the real argument for independence is to say, look, you agree because the polls show this. there's a big majority in this country that says we're going in the wrong direction, that we need on all the big issues. and so the job of the trump campaign is to say she's not the change that we need. she's more of same only even more left wing. here's the change. and then lay out their positive agenda. >> and talking of how former president trump responded to all of this today, do you see him becoming more disciplined in terms of making that argument? >> well, i think that some of the criticism of him has been overstated. if you actually look at what he's been at, the press conferences, at the rallies, they are full of concrete policy arguments, whether

describing the problems caused by the biden harris agenda and her policies and what they would do. but that's a policy argument. you can say it's negative, but he's engaging in a policy argument, whether that's about open borders or higher taxes or whatever. and constantly laying out what he would do to secure the border to get the economy moving in the right direction. that is a key part of everything he's been saying. so i think he'll continue to do that. i that he's seems to be very much locked in in the right place in terms of making a common sense argument that will resonate with people. >> all the vibes is the phrase of the week has been have been towards the democrats. obviously it's their convention momentum seems to be with the democrats in the polls. but you genuinely believe that if the republicans bring this back a policy debate, yes, they win. >> oh, for sure. no question about it, that it's been a failure, just as it has in california talked about this earlier. it's been a failure on every

front. there's this biden-harris administration, the policy agenda that they're now doubling down on is more of the same, only a bit worse. and so and you can point to the actual record of the trump administration on policy. there's no argument. but elections are also about emotion. >> and so there does need to be a way of framing those arguments in an attractive manner where people can say, yes, i like the look of this trump future that's in front of us. it's attractive, it's positive. and i think that needs to be part of it as well. it's not just a rational argument about policy proposals . the vibe is very important and can is president former president trump a candidate who can give off that positive vibe? >> i mean, this is what you saw is very interesting, actually, when you look at how he was performing at the rallies and elsewhere in the run up to the convention, a lot of people were saying he's lighter, he's looser, he's funny, he seems to be

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president trump taking his campaign to the southern border thursday, he brought along the grieving mothers of children killed by undocumented immigrants, making the point of the need to further secure the border. fox news correspondent lisa acuna got his reaction on the democrats plan. >> the democratic national committee has released his platform in it is calling for the passage of the house bill. the u.s. citizenship act, which would in part offer a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. do you have anything like that in your administration plan? >> yes, we have a very good bill. we have a very strong bill was passed by the house and the democrats refused it. then they put up a fake bill, as you know, a few months ago, which would have allowed millions of people to keep pouring into our country. we rejected it. but you don't need a bill to create a border. all you have to do is say as president, close the border

and the border will be closed. >> joining us now, andrew gould, former arizona supreme court judge. thank you, sir, for joining us here in this early morning hours. we greatly appreciate it. so, lisa, there was trying to kind of hone in on the differences on differences. and there's a pretty stark divide between what the what former president trump is proposing and what kamala harris, vp kamala is proposing. your thoughts on this counterprogramming effort? well, molly, you know, i have been on this border fighting this battle for over 30 years. i was a prosecutor in yuma, prosecuted cartels. i was a trial judge in yuma all the way up to our state supreme court. i've seen this issue from a lot of a lot of angles. my house was, you know, walking distance to the border. so we've been dealing with this for a long time. and it's as simple this.

the biden administration and kamala harris, the vice president, have engaged in a policy of not only refusing to enforce border laws, but encouraging people to break them. >> president has engaged in the policy of the law and discouraging people from breaking it. and so when i see him down there at the border and i've at that very spot where he is, it's over in cochise county. it is a visual picture of a president who wants to enforce the law versus some very clever words at the convention. but the of encouraging people to break the law know president trump has talked a lot about his deportation plans and reporter correspondent lisa acuna there on the ground dug into that a little bit. take listen. >> on inauguration day by noon you would start the largest deportation effort in american

history. logistically, how would that work? wouldn't you be hit with a flood of lawsuits? >> you'd work very closely with local law enforcement, know the middle names. they know everything about all of the bad ones, all of the rough ones. they know it very well and they'll work with us. we have to get the criminals out. if we don't get the criminals out. we're in big trouble in this country. we're going to get the criminals out, the bad ones out, and we're going to do it with local enforcement with the sheriffs here that have done such an incredible job like that. men have done such an incredible job, and we're going to work very well together. >> andrew, there's fox news polling that 87% of respondents consider the situation at the southern border a problem. and interestingly as well, 63% favor deporting illegal immigrants back to their countries. do you think president trump has a what amounts to a popular position here, a popular argument that making? molly i do. and i want to be very clear on this. president trump is going to win arizona, but we're not stupid

down here. we can see what's going on with our own eyes. we see the people coming through the gaps in the wall. we people coming into these communities. and was the nogales and yuma. and so no one can tell us how much they say there isn't a problem down there that that there is one. we know that there is one. we can see it with our own eyes . the community that i raised my family in, in yuma is 70, maybe even 80% hispanic. and that's the way that community. they do not want illegal immigration. we a pro-immigration country. we want people to come to this country to work. we want them to do it legally. we can talk about policies, about whether there should be more or less legal immigration, but you have to follow the law first. you can't just break the law and i'm going to say this. it is a very bad way for a person to start off coming to america by their first act

is to break the law. i don't think we want people to come into this country breaking the law. andrew, wrapping up this final question, there's a debate around the corner. what what do you predict president trump will say during that debate on this issue? well, he asked me to predict what president trump will say. that's heavy lift. and so you make me laugh a little bit. but, you know, when you listen to him, when i listen to that segment that you just played, you have to have to focus on what he said. >> he was saying we're going to deport people who are criminals. now, what he saying is people, as i understand it, people with records, we have always deported people with criminal records in this country. and so he's, again, just enforcing immigration laws. but when it comes to the debate, mollie, i, i think he's going to hold the vice president accountable for her failures at the border. if there's one thing

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>> lot has changed for us at angie since then. but the issues facing homeowners are the same. and the solution too. skilled local pros get started angie .com when you can watch. >> listen. get the latest news business and news headlines on sirius xm anytime, anywhere. >> fox news radio on sirius xm america is listening. >> kamala harris painted a picture thursday night of who is and what she wants to accomplish. the vice president spoke about what she called her lifelong pursuit of equity and justice for all. she spoke candidly at times about her upbringing and how it shaped her ambition and as president. harris says she promises to serve the middle class. >> here to talk more about the final night of the dnc and that speech, professor of international relations and politics at university, and fox news contributor karen skinner. pepperdine university school of public policy. >> dean pete peterson.

>> and fox news contributor leslie marshall. welcome again to all of you. great to have you here. leslie, let me start with you. it struck at the beginning of her speech as she tried to calm everybody down in that arena. kamala harris kept let's get to business and then delivered what to me was a very business like speech. >> she didn't try to match, as nobody probably can the oratorical skills of the obamas and oprah. it was very much like, let's get to here. >> you know, something that struck me as a woman and having cried when the drill shot at a woman in 2016, you know, hillary clinton had to be president. and the hope for that to come again, not just for me as a woman, but for my daughter. you know, i was surprised that she didn't mention that. she didn't mention the glass ceiling. and i was glad about that because, you know, it's just like, you know, i'm a

candidate. and that's exactly what she was doing. it is get down to business because what was she saying? this is, you know, this is who i am. you don't all know me or know me that well. you know me as vice president or you know me as attorney general, you know, as a senator you don't know me enough as a candidate, kamala harris. >> and this is who i am. and this an outline of what i believe. >> and the specifics will follow. karen, did you think it was an effective speech overall? i actually do. i think it was, as i said earlier, the most important and consequent speech of her political her long political career and was, i think, a strong statement of interestingly and perhaps ironically in america first point of view from the progressive side, what really has struck me about this entire convention is donald trump has shifted the narrative, has the vocabulary, and much of what's been going on

this week, including her own speech, is and attempt to reinterpret the idea of america first. she all but said it. and so i think we see what the contours will be like in the fall campaign. it will be for really the same intellectual and policy space, law and order and, you know, borders, borders. she presented herself as a strong border security person. all of the issues that donald trump brought forth in 2016 that he's hammering now, the democrats are saying we're in charge of those issues as well. >> do you think that they they can do that effectively? the democrats can, they take back that america first kind of approach from the republican side of the aisle? >> well, in some ways they have to, because they've ceded it really for the last three and a half years. if we look at the border, they have to do respond that issue. that's something that americans in your previous spot discussed, that that really

is a major issue for. a lot of americans, when we look at america's role in the world and ukraine happening under president biden, when we know that vice harris was involved in those decisions, when we looked at what's happening also in the middle east. president trump is in that unique position to, say not only what i would do if i were president, someone who's running as an opponent to an incumbent, but he can actually say, here's what four years actually look like, right? >> these issues that we're seeing on the world stage did not take place under my presidency. these issues around the economy and the border did not take place under my president. so it's logical that the democrats are going to have to respond to their own failures. >> leslie, how hard an argument is that for democrats to counter pete's point, that president trump can point to his four years and say this border was much more etc. ,and so on, on a number

of issues. >> when you look at issues and you know, you hear people say, you know, especially on my side of the aisle, that during the trump administration, you know, you know, we had bodies lined up in morgues and we hear republicans say, oh, well, that was because of covid. you know, democrats can make the same with regard to what's going on right now in israel. i mean, democrats are not responsible and neither are republicans. hamas's and by may i point out that kamala harris called a terrorist organization tonight. >> she said the terrorist organization paws hamas. and that and that's very strong, because i agree with that as well that they are a terrorist organization. however, what they did on october 7th, even the israelis arguably equal, if not better intel than we. didn't didn't stop that, didn't get that. so some of what's going on in the world can't be blamed, even though when, you know, you're in the white house, you get blamed for it. you know, i'm a realist and,

you know, certainly none of us have a crystal ball. if they did, october 7th would never happen. >> so, yes, you can't put october something like october 7th. you possibly can't even put the russian invasion of ukraine at the door of kamala harris and her office in the white house. karen. but you can you are a former president trump. tie her to border, which is, as pete was pointing out, a major for so many americans. >> so it's going to be very hard for her to run away from every what a lot of voters will consider policy failures of the biden administration. >> yeah, i think you tie her to all of these issues, especially the wars, because she, in an interview said regarding the failure in afghanistan, the pullout i was the last in the room with the president, vice president is actually are very important actors. they're not just hidden in a closet. if you look at ronald reagan's president, george h.w. bush, he was a consequential actor

in the administration on one of the first major counterterrorist some activities. dick cheney, these are important players. so you give them a pass. she's been involved in these wars and the us failure in the conflict. i think the u.s. is such a consequential actor. the predominant on earth, that when you see a conflict where interests are at stake, us failure in the oval office is part of the calculus of the actors. so i think vladimir putin and hamas, the chinese on taiwan, a whole host of issues, have calculated that is an appeasement oriented administration based on empirical evidence, starting with afghanistan and then the attempt to reenter the iran nuclear deal. >> and she's part of all of it. i imagine we will hear former president make all of those points on the debate stage on september 10th. leslie karen, pete, great

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bob's there you the 2024 democratic national convention in the history books. what were the most memorable moments? what can we expect next? let's turn to julian epstein. rubino tom del vaccaro, kieran skinner, pete peterson and leslie marshall. >> leslie, let's start with you. the margins, these swing states are incredibly tight and in a sense, it's time to get the real work underway. your thoughts? >> well, that's what's going to happen. i mean, the convention is over. the party is over, and the excitement is over. now it's time for the football game. this the pep rally. and at the game, there have to be not just specifics. i do think that some of the things that kamala harris spoke to, the vice president spoke to was a pragmatism, an opportunity. and these are things that definitely appeal to moderates. and a lot of those swing state voters are moderates, whether they're democrats or

are independents. and i think that speaks to them. but she has to have more specific to win them over going forward. and my favorite i'm sorry, week my favorite, you know, in all of this was gus was and his love for his dad. >> as a mom, it just kills. i totally with you on that. >> yeah. yeah. the first sure. and talking gus walz his father governor walz his history in sports and leslie's sports analogy. julian was this was this whole week a touchdown for democrats it was very good. i think the best moment was barack obama's. nobody does it better than him. but, you know, the the the is over. hardball begins in addition to getting and doing a lot of interviews to explain, shall we call it the evolution of her policy views and making a decided move to the political center of the way clinton and obama did. she's going to have to be ready for the next steps if am if i am donald trump right.

i am challenging her to a debate every other week. and if she says no, i'm going to do exactly what clinton did to bush in 92. i'm going to send seven foot chicken mascots, every public event that she has and let her explain that republicans are going to play a very tough game of hardball and this idea that democrats can ride the campaign of joy into the is is a delusion right now. they're going to have to get more realistic that kyra and perhaps former president trump won't have to work as hard to counterprogramming, maybe things will even out a little bit. but to some extent, he's the more known entity. kamala harris has somehow conjured this period of time where she's reintroducing herself to the american public. does that mean she has a little bit of an upper hand, at least in these next couple of days? kiran, in a way, i think she does, because the clock is going run out. we don't have much time before election day. in some states. voting starts really soon.

so early voting. and she just presented herself to the american public. it's a great story. we met her family really for the first time. we've known the trump narrative for much longer, seen his family for for many, many years. he's a celebrity his own right. so i think that that will carry her for a while. but i do think that something important happened this week and in her speech tonight, we have in american politics the fact that person of color and a woman can be the for a major political party. i hope that happens in the future in the republican party. but her discussion was not about really her race and her gender. it was about her position as a progressive democrat and the policy, the broad brush of the policy that she will support. she and donald trump will debate as political rivals

and political equals and i think that's good for american politics. >> tom, as a as a former rival of kamala harris, politically speaking, you know her politically better than of us. do you think we saw the real kamala harris tonight? >> do you think america saw the real kamala harris? i'd probably say no. she wasn't always the most liberal in the senate. it was only after she ran for president that she decided to move her votes farther when she was under the tutelage of willie brown. he's very practical. and back in the day when she's san francisco d.a., she wasn't really far left. she made some good decisions and she angered dianne feinstein by not applying the death penalty. so she's a bit of a chameleon. but i think the best thing that happened this week is, look, you can't no one can deny there's more excitement today

going on. biden had been the nominee for trump to win this race. in that debate, he has to have very clear solutions to the problems created by them and he needs to challenge her in questions himself, asking her. well, what's different between you and biden? why did you flip flop? lastly, they have they have to run the john kerry flip flop ads as much as possible. and as far as the democrats, i hope they don't listen to julian because. >> he's underrated. rich, bringing you back in here ,the debates coming. but, you know, there is a lot of advertising that's about to hit as well out there. >> oh, absolutely. we're in a scenario where there are essentially seven left, seven states. you go to sun belt, you go to north carolina, georgia, then over in west, you have arizona and nevada. then you go up to the rust belt. those blue wall states of wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan. maybe maybe the democrats can do or we can reach for florida. maybe republicans can reach

new hampshire. so we're in this weird scenario where. essentially, 42 americans in 42 states are sitting in the electoral sidelines watching as the candidates essentially just about run for governor of wisconsin. it's really a fascinating phenomenon, though. back in 1982, for example, and you had about 20 to 25 states that were actually in play and for that matter, also an interesting scenario, if you go back in 1976, jimmy won about a third of the conservative vote and gerald ford won about a fourth of the liberal vote. now, we're in a scenario where last around 94% of democrats voted for joe biden, 94% of republicans voted for donald trump. we're going to see a very similar scenario to that this time around. and i think the experience of the pickup tim walz is an interesting take on the heart of vice president harris is thing he does with his background in terms of being a hunter, being a foot, being a former football coach, being a former military person is he appeals to those rural voters. he's got it in many.

he's got the personality of hubert humphrey and the paul thing and the personality of bill clinton, kind of an amalgamation, if you will. the question is, will he be able to define himself that way? how will the republicans succeed in trying to say that he's just a kind of a retired liberal? it's going to be a fascinating phenomenon in this race. >> so, pete, as we as we wrap up this week, a good week for democrats, they certainly think it's been a good week. >> where do we sit in this race as you it, pete? >> well, i think we're definitely going to see a bump for the democrats coming out this. i think what struck me comparing the democrat and republican conventions was really how traditional the democratic convention, when you look at the roster and the schedule, it was really politicians and pop stars. when you look at the republican convention, there were a lot more everyday americans. the memories that i have of the republican convention were the gold star families. was that parent from new york city whose son was murdered. when i even look at tonight, the most memorable thing

about tonight was really that panel around gun violence with those five victims. those were those kind of stories of every day americans that i think the republicans really did such a good job profiling. those are the kinds of stories that i think most people are going to remember from these two conventions. >> all right, pete, great to have you here. leslie, kieran, julian, tom rich, do i get everybody? >> mollie, it's been wonderful with you, too. over this week. mollie really enjoyed our dnc coverage. i'll be back here tomorrow night filling in for trace on fox news at nine. i hope that you, mollie, are going to get a well-deserved take a long nap. just at least one quick nap and then right back to work out on the campaign trail for everyone. >> real americans making the decision. thank you, jonathan. thank you, jonathan. thank you, everyone, fortoday. watching. >> if you have heart failure or seek help, you keep living life with the ones you love. ask your doctor farxiga today

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