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alicia: we are awaiting a news conference any moment now from nasa with a long-awaited update on the two astronauts that have spent more than two months aboard the international space station after a boeing test flight scheduled to last eight days. the starliner experienced technical issues during the trip that have delayed it return to earth, and we will bring you that news conference when it happens live. welcome to "fox news live," i'm alicia acuna. griff: iowa liberty alicia -- alicia, great to be with you. we also have an update in the saws saws nation attempt against president trump. the fbi and secret service conduct separate probes into last month's incident. c.b. cotton is live with the very latest. what can you tell us, c.b.? >> reporter: well, six weeks since the butler, pennsylvania, shooting and former president donald trump is now making a campaign promise to get answers on the assassination attempt he

survived but also the assassination of john f. kennedy who was the uncle of robert.kennedy jr. rfk jr., on the heels of his endorsement for trump, joined trump on stage during a rally in glendale, arizona, on friday as trump shared his plans for an independent presidential commission on assassination attempts. >> they will be tasked with releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of president john f. kennedy. [cheers and applause] and they will also conduct a rigorous are review of the attack last month. >> reporter: as of monday, one member of trump's personal protective team and four members of the secret service's pittsburgh field office including the special agent in charge were all a placed on administrative duties. working remotely. the pittsburgh field office was responsible for creating the rally's security plan and coordinating with local law enforcement according to my

federal source. a little more than -- it's been a little more than a month since the butler, pa shooting, and word just broke this week of these personnel shake-ups. our colleague, david spunt, says he's learned the agency had to wait to interview its agents and told the f -- until the fbi finished its interviews for a separate criminal probe into the shooting. the fbi's parallel criminal investigation is into the shooter and the overall security failures, and it could lead to the justice department filing etc. own chargings. but yesterday attorney general merrick garland wouldn't share specifics. >> i don't know anything about the particular disciplinary actions that are being taken. the most that i can say is what the secretary of the department of homeland security and the acting director of the secret service have said which this was a security failure and there is both an internal and an external, independent investigation of what happened. >> reporter: on monday members

of a bipartisan congressional task force will will visit the rally site and meet with local officials. griff. griff: c.b. cotton live following all of the investigations on it, thank you. alicia? alicia: griff, just a day after a the arrest of an arizona man for threats against former president trump, now a memphis man has been charged with making death threats against president biden, vice president harris and former president obama. madeleine rivera is live with more. hi, madeleine. >> reporter: both of these men are accused of making threats on social media. 66-year-old ronald lee -- from arizona is in custody after a authorities say he made two posts this week threatening to the harm former president trump. cocheese county police were able to arrest him on thursday when trump was also in the state visiting the u.s.-mexico border. he already had outstanding warrants including for fail offto register as a sex to fenneller, so the sheriff's office tells us he's being held in lieu of a $25,000 bail for

that charge. they worked together with the local district attorney so charges for the social media threat against trump can be considered. meantime, 37-year-old kyle alton hall from memphis is facing three federal counts for allegedly threatening to assassinate president biden, vice president kamala harris and former president obama. authorities say hall made these posts on july 27th, two weeks after the assassination attempt against former president trump. if convicted, membered face up to 15 years in -- he could face up to 15 years in prison. christopher wray has warned about the heightened threat environment. the concerns range from foreign election interference and politically-motivated violence to chinese espionage. he says they've been ramping up their partnerships with local and state agencies to counter these threats. alicia. alicia: madeleine rivera, thank you so much. >> reporter: you got it. ♪ ♪

griff: all right. for more on the investigations that has led to the secret service place these agents on administrative leave, let's bring in former dhs senior adviser charles no reno in, alicia and i have a lot of questions about this, but i think the obvious one that the whole country keeps asking of a.g. garland and others is why did it take so long? why a month if later are these agents final he being taken out of the -- finally being taken out of the field? >> yeah, and i think that's why we're talking about this today and it's a big story. and i think it's what decreases the credibility of the agency even further. what should have been a 10-minute decision by leadership at the secret service turned into this over 30-day process. administrative leave following snap events in law enforcement -- significant events in law enforcement are not uncommon. and p oh, by the way, or it's also not a final determination

of right and wrong. the secret service knew who was involved very clearly in the overall security planning in butler, pennsylvania, and should have immediately removed those individuals from work and placed them on administrative leave. one, because they were involved in this significant event and, secondly, so they could be made available immediately for interviews. we've heard congress complaining, for example, of not having access to these agents to interview them appropriately. so should they have been removed from work, this would have kind of not made it the story it is today, it would have been considered standard practice to the american people and restored some of the credibility of the agency to make a simple decision quickly. alicia: you know, charles, as all of this is going on and this investigation if continues, when the former president talks about the investigation, he's said that he had wanted more people out there and they weren't given to to him. he's really careful though not

to criticize the agents who helped save his life. take a listen. >> i have great respect for secret service. the job they do, including a month and a half ago when they were jumping on top of me with bullets flying right at 'em. so mistakes were made, and they're going to learn from the mistakes. alicia: charles, what do you think about that? the relationship between who the secret service is protecting and the protectee is so incredibly tight and very important. >> well, it is. and there's also an operational distinction, alicia, that needs to be made here. it is the not the job of the permanent protective detail assigned to the former president to come up with these resources. if it's the job of the protecteon detail that if gaps are identified and additional resources are needed to make thoses requests to headquarters, it's then the responsibility of leadership to send those resources as they are validated based on this overall threat

environment we're talking about and the political divisiveness of the country to go ahead and approve those as required. and that's where we're seeing the push right now within the agency itself, is was that protection deal assigned to the former president given the resources that it needed, and did they reflect the threat environment of the country and the threat level of the protectee himself, the former president. griff: charles, we heard a little bit in the last report from a.g. garland, but he talked about, obviously, this is a security failure. but there's another part of what he's saying, and he's not saying much, by the way, that i want you to hear and i want to ask you about it. listen. >> this was a security failure, and there is both an internal and an external, independent investigation of what happened, there's a congressional task force on the same subject. and hopefully -- and i know that

they will provide lessons learned to prevent such a failure from happening in the future. griff: interesting he mentions the congressional task force because it's worth reminding our viewers, congress can investigate but not prosecute. he, on the other hand, has prosecutorial powers. could this lead to prosecutions? >> well, if they find gross misconduct and neglect, it's always possible. i don't think that's going to be the case here. i think what they're going to find is that you had human beings make some very bad decisions in how they created that security plan that day. and that gaps that should have been immediately identified and mitigated were not. i mean, look, there's five investigations or reviews going on right now; two internal at the secret service and dhs, you've got the dhs inspector general, you've got the fbi and you've got the bipartisan

independent commission right now. so information flow is going to start to shrink now. it's going to get even rarer than what it is now based on all of these ongoing investigations. but i don't think we're going to find any what i would call criminal neglect. , i think you're just going to find some agents that were responsible for the planning that should have known better what their jobs were and their responsibilities were to keep the former president safe. griff: so final word, do you think anyone gets fired, finally? >> it's always possible but, look, when we're looking at over 30 days just to place people on administrative leave, i'm not hopeful that any decisions are going to be made quickly. this is going to be a lengthy process even though i believe these investigations should not go on for a long period of time. it's very clear what happened here. we know the players that were responsible, and this should be resolved within 90 days, no

more. but, yes, somebody needs to be held accountable. and if nobody is fired over this, the american people are going to lose each more confidence in the agency, and they cannot afford that right now. not in this threat environment, not with the number of candidates they're protecting and not with the importance of the overall mission towards our democracy. alicia: charles marine know, we want to thank you for your time and expertise today, we appreciate it. >> sure, thank you. ♪ alicia: last night robert f. kennedy jr. suspended his independent bid for president friday and immediately endorsed former president trump, joining him on stage in arizona a. lucas tomlinson is live outside the white house with the latest. hi, lucas. >> reporter: that's right, alicia, rfk jr. bowing out of the race. and while he went down, he decided to name names. >> in contrast, during the 16

months since i declared, abc, nbc, cbs, msnbc and cnn combined gave only two live interviews for me. those instead ran a continuous deluge of hit pieces with inaccurate and defamatory smears. some of those same networks included with the -- colluded with the dnc to keep me off the a debate stage. >> reporter: much has been made of vice president harris ignoring the press, counting on social media and influencer s who have their own little rooms and tents at the dnc and her rallies recall harris pledged to do a sit-down interview by the end of this month which is fast approaching. so far the outlet, time and location are unclear. harris and walz will begin a bus tour on georgia ending with a rally? savannah thursday night. here's harris while accepting her party's nomination at the

dnc. >> i will bring together labor and workers -- [cheers and applause] and small business owners and entrepreneurs and american companies to create jobs, to grow our economy and to lower the cost of everyday needs like health care and housing and groceries. >> reporter: groceries that cost about 20% more since biden-harris arrived here at the white house. early next week j.d. vance will deliver remarks on the economy, inflation and manufacturing in big rapids, not grand rapids, michigan. and last hour you had a representative from the trump campaign on harris' inseuss yens toward the media. >> 775 days left, she and her campaign are trying to hide the ball, skirt the media and, most disgraceful of all, are trying to hide from voters. >> reporter: so rfk jr. will be appearing live and for an exclusive interview on "fox news sunday" tomorrow with shannon bream with, of course, and

perhaps ms. alvarez had football on the mind there. alicia? herb herb lucas tomlinson live at the white house, thank you. griff: we want to take you live now to to houston where nasa's providing an update on the astronauts stuck in space. let's listen in now. >> -- our crewed access to the space nation. space station. this whole discussion, remember, is put in the context of we have had mistakes done in the past. we lost two space shuttles as a result of there not being a culture in which information could come forward. we have been very solicitous of all of our employees that if you

have some objection, you come forward. space flight is risky. even at its safest. and even as its most routine. and a test flight by nature is neither safe nor routine. and so the decision to keep butch and sunny aboard the international space station and bring the boeing starliner home uncrewed is a result of a commitment to safety. our core value is safety. and it is the our north star. and i'm grateful to nasa and to boeing for their teams, for all the incredible and detailed work to get to this decision.

turn the it over to jim with. >> thank you, sir. thank you and deputy administrator melroy for your support along the way and certainly for being here today. it means a lot. i'd like to communicate to all of you that a we've only to this decision using our program, our mission director and our agency-level processes. that includes the decisions that happened at the commercial crew program, at the space operations mission directorate level and the agency level and includes all of our technical authorities from engineering, safety, medical and flight operations. as the administrator said, our focus is on safety all the time, and this certainly is no different. the uncertainty in our margins is where we have gone, come to make the decision that the administrator laid out. that uncertainty remains in our understanding of the physics going on in the thrusters, and we still have some work to go. you'll hear more from others on

the specifics, but i'll tell you that nasa and boeing have made incredible technical progress in the model development that is going on, the thruster testing, understanding material properties within the valve and the complicated, fluid physics that are happening inside. we will continue to learn. we are a learning organization, and i think we've demonstrated that here. we'll learn from this effort so that our crews who are at the top of the pyramid on these missions and their families can continue to know we've done that and we'll always do our best. for our team, our programmatic and technical teams both nasa and the commercial crew program and the space station program and our boeing teammates, have worked endlessly to get to launch and certainly in the past two months. they're done this while the -- they've done this while the whole world has gone on around

them; a hurricane through florida, a hurricane through here while their homes were damaged and without power. they came to work. some of them lost family members along the way, their kids went back to school and life in general went on, but they were here every day, working long hours. they have persevered, and i want them to know how grateful i am that they are on our team. this has not been an easy decision, but it is absolutely the right one. let me turn it over to ken bowersox and thank ken and all of the leaders here and the ones that are not here with us today for their work. >> thanks, jim. and thanks to you and the administrator for joining us for this press conference and for meetings. you guys have been heavily involved, and we appreciate that. i also want to thank everybody who's here in the room with us and watching online. it says a lot that a you're with us on a saturday, is and i want you to know how much we appreciate your support as we work to fly our mission safely.

i'm really proud of the nasa team and the boeing team for all the work they've been doing the last couple of months. it's really been impressive to see how they've been very agile in testing, or gathering data and completing analysis. and then having the tough discussions that go along with processing that data and coming to conclusions. if our intent today was to have the first part of a flight readiness review. the goal of that a review so to come up with a nasa recommendation on whether we should proceed with the crewed flight test either crewed or uncrewed. our boeing partners told us that they would be able to execute either option, and they thought that the call belonged to nasa because of our wider view of all the risks involved. if we conducted a poll, all of

the organizations on the polling sheet anticipated that they thought we should proceed uncrewed with the flight test. and so our next step will be to process toward that uncrewed flight test, to finish those preparations and we'll have another, part two, of the readiness review wednesday or thursday next week, we believe, to make a sure that we're ready for undock and to complete the test. we are still in the middle of a test flight. we have to remain vigilant. we need to get the vehicle back on deck, go through the data. and once we've done that, we'll start thinking about our next steps for starliner's next flight. and now i'd like to pass the mic to steve to share more info and more details. >> thanks, ken, and thanks for the kind words. i want to thank alling of you for being here and the public

and everybody for following our progress over the summer. it's been a long summer. it's been a long summer for our team, and i want to, first, start out by thanking our team who's worked so hard over the summer. long hours, weekends, nights testing, analysis, reviews. i mean, it's just been an incredible effort by the team. we are dealing with a very complex issue with the thrusters and i'll talk more about that, but it's challenging to predict if their performance, it's challenging to predict the temperatures we'll see, and so that's why it's been tough and it's taken the time ever since we docked back on june 6th to get to this point. very proud of the due diligence that the team has displayed, their perseverance, fortitude, courage, dedication, resilience as they learn more and we got more data and different results at times than we expected. i especially want to thank the

boeing team and their contractor team, aerojet, rock dine, the engine manufacturer, the valve manufacturer, all their suppliers that participated along with the nasa work force. we have brought in expertise from just about every nasa center. we did testing at the marshall space flight center. of course, our white sands facility did testing on the thrusters, so this has been a huge effort across all of nasa, within the commercial crewed program and even beyond. determining the position to bring starliner back uncrewed was very difficult for me personally. we're all committed to the mission which we started out, which is to bring butch and sunny back. but as we got more and more data over the summer and understood the uncertainty of that data, it became clear to us that the best course of alaska was to return star theliner uncrewed, and i'll talk about the other as a spects of the mission in a little admi.

aspects of the mission in a little bit. you know, the bottom line relative to bringing starliner back is there was just too much uncertainty in the prediction of the thrusters. if we had a model, if we had a way to accurately predict what the thrusters would do for the undock and all the way through the deorbit burn and through the separation sequence, i think we would have taken a different course of action. but when we looked at the data and looked at the potential for thruster failures with a crew onboard and then getting into this very tight sequence of finishing the burn which puts the vehicle on entry and then immediately maneuvering from them into a sep sequence to separate the surface if module and crew module, it was just too much risk, so we decided to proceed with the uncrewed test the flight. the past forward now so to, as ken said, work toward part two. we'll review the slope of -- the scope of the mission, an uncrewed test flight, we are

changing the separation she again, and we'll review those aspects at the readiness review. we're going to get away from station a little more quickly. we'll get to the deorbit burn and execute that nominally. we have a good setup in terms of the opportunities into the white sands space harbor for a number of opportunities in september. we'll land or undock in early september and then we have a lot of work to do relative to the rest of the mission which is butch and sunny staying on the space station for some time and they return on crew 99 9. we're con feting that a spacecraft with a couple extra -- two different seats. so we'll have two crew members on that vehicle and then we'll have it ready to bring butch and sunny home. so there'll be ballast and two seats on the uphill. we also have to work to reconfigure the crew a vehicle. it will serve as the lifeboat for butch and sunny. we have a configuration on the

cargo pod that'll open in place. so, again, we'll get clips of home, we're ready to do so. we're going to take our time taking the steps, each step along the way. we'll have an important simulation hate of that flight readiness review with flight control team. if you put yourself in their place, they have practiced for two years to bring a crew home on starliner. there are some differences in executing the undock sequence and the coast to the deorbit burn and the deorr bid burn without a crew, and so they're going to practice that next week. i'm extremely grateful for the commercial crew program, the entire team. it's an honor to the represent them here today, and i'll turn it over to dana. >> thank you, steve. thank you all very much for being here, for your interest in this historic test the flight mission and also in the international space station. as you heard with the decision to leave butch and sunny onboard til february, they'll be with us on station for eight months. i think most of you mow our

normal expedition durations are six months long, but we have had a number of flights with astronauts who have stayed onboard with us for 12 months at a time. so this 8-month stay the is very much within our normal operational experience base. while butch and sunny are onboard, they'll be doing science, station maintenance, they'll execute the spacex31 research and cargo mission, and we may have a couple of space walks for them toward the end of their expedition. they've been a welcome set of helping hands. they've already done about 1000 hours of work on -- 100 hours of work on 42 different experiments and have helped us with some critical station maintenance that we've had onboard. for us looking forward, the station team is focused on the planning and the rework for the undocker the starliner undock. as you heard from steve, that's targeted for early september, before with we hit that undock window. we're boeing to do the work to

reconfirm the crew 8 dragon probably within the next week or so for a 6-crew contingency return capability. and just to reiterate as steve said, this just gives us a contingency capability after starliner departs and before the crew 9 vehicle arrives. crew 9 with 2 crew will launch no earlier than september 24th. we'll do a normal handover between the crews, and then we'll have crew 8 undock. after that we will relocate the crew 9 vehicle so that dragon vehicle will be relocated to open up the forward port for the spacex3 is cargo mission. and -- 31 cargo mission. and we're planning that somewhere in mid october. in between all of that, we've got a soyuz crew exchange, that's happening september 11th will be the launch of 73s carrying don pettitte and then tracy dyson will go home after

that soyuz exchange. so we've got a lot of busy activities in front of us this fall. on behalf of the station program, i do want to thank the entire team, the commercial crew program, the boeing team and all of our technical teams. they've done a tremendous amount of work over the summer getting us to the point where we have enough data and enough information to make this really critical and difficult decision that we've maded today. so very much appreciate it, and as i think all of you -- griff: okay, they're getting a little bit into the weeds there, but for our viewers just joining us, that was the update from houston, from nasa officials led by former florida democrat senator bill nelson, now nasa's administrator, giving some really tough news that the two astronauts, butch will more and sunny williams, are going to be at least for another six months stuck in space because what has happened is the starliner, the

boeing starliner, is -- after experiencing thruster problems, cannot safely, they cannot put trust to to safely bring those two astronauts back. therefore, they will go to elon musk's dragon spacex capsule which doesn't launch until late september and not scheduled to return until february. so right now it serves and would appear to certainly be, alicia, as a real blow to boeing that has suffered its own woe withs with the 737s and and the like as well as nasa's reputation at stake. of course, nasa and boeing were doing this starliner, they're now having to call elon musk to save the day. alicia: yeahings, absolutely. and, you know, bill nelson, the nasa administrator, said they've made mistakes in the past. he brought up the past two shuttle disasters. he said they're been reaching out to employees telling anyone within their reach to if they have objections, that they need

to speak up. so, obviously, whoever had objections, whatever science, whatever tests they had run, whatever -- anything they came upon floated to the top and they realized this was just too race -- risky. this was a trip that started out as 8 days, it has now become 88 months. and we heard one of the officials say -- 8 months. normal expeditions go up to 8 months, some go up to12 months, so this 8 months still falls within the window that they're used to. it's not outside of it. however, griff, this is in the news anyone wanted to hear, especially their families who have been waiting and now we have two nasa astronauts who continue to be stuck in space. griff: they are. and the questions going forward about boeing's response. this is, by all a accounts, a catastrophic failure for boeing in their reputation. and now with elon musk's spacex coming to the rescue and, fortunately, trying to get those

astronauts back safely, that is, of course, the paramount, top concern in this situation. but going forward i think there are a lot of questions for nasa but even more so pointedly at boeing. and, you know, as we listen to some of the astronauts there and dana weigel, the manager there, at the end getting into some of the details of the mission focus, we also learned in that press conference that the dragon spacex mission will have to go two fewer astronautingses -- astronauts. instead of four, they'll just be able to send who to make room to bring sunny williams and butch wilmore back because of the failure. and that's what they call it, a failure, of boeing and nasa in this mission. alicia: no, this is, like, from a pr standpoint, yes, catastrophic. but we're hoping that this is not catastrophic in general. these are scientists, these a astronauts, and they are always

preparing for the next problem. and that's where they find themselves right now, and that's where we find ourselves, watching and waiting. and now the microscope is on them in a way like never before where americans are going to be watching to see what happens. and we pray that spacex is able to handle this and bring this mission to a closure in february, but this is not, this is the not good news, nothing that anyone wanted to hear. griff: no, not indeed. and we will be monitoring that conference down in houston with nasa and bring you any more if we get an update on that a news. ♪ ♪ griff: all right. back to the campaign trail. for more on the 2024 race, let's bring in our political panel. perspective strategies partner ryan taylor and former 2024 democratic presidential candidate jason palmer. gentlemen, thanks for the being here. it's worth noting, mr. palmer, you won the american samoa

primary, or caucus as it is, against joe biden. you've been on this campaign trail much earlier, but here we are now, 755 days to go -- 75 days to go. the biggest news, obviously, a late yesterday the endorsement of rfk jr. for team trump. his suspension of his campaign. i want to play for you a little bit of what we heard from rfk jr. yesterday. listen here. >> in a about 10 battleground states where my presence would be a spoiler, i'm going to remove my name, and i've already started that process and urge voters not to vote for me. it's with a sense of victory and not defeat that i am suspending my campaign activities. griff: jason, bobby kennedy there mentioning swing states, and that's what we're all looking at, you know? in places like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia, arizona, could this push for rfk voters now free to

sort of go either they go trump or they go harris or they sit at home. what do you think the effect will be? >> well, the impact could be significant. but over the last few weeks you've seen rfk's support going down from 10%, now just 5%, and a lot of that's because of the energy of the hearst campaign. many of the people -- harris campaign. many people who thought biden was too old had a already started gravitating towards harris. but i do think people should look out for chase oliver, the libertarian candidate. he won a very heated libertarian convention. the libertarian party is often not paid enough attention to, but many people in the rfk camp are libertarians by kind of their feelings, their medical freedom focus, other freedom focuses. that's partly why the harris campaign chose freedom as an emphasis for them. there are many people in the independent camp who think freedom is the most important thing on the ballot this year. griff: that's a great point,

jason. ryan, maybe these rfk voters go to jill stein or cornel west, you don't know. he brings a good point. the trump campaign put out a memo playing, plain and simple, it helps us. >> it does help him because his name -- bobby kennedy's name is off the ballot, so we won't have a repeat of '92 when ross perot siphoned a lot of votes away from george bush. i am a convinced, however, that this fight for the swing voters, these independents isn't going to be as relevant as it was in past cycles. i think this election, more than anytime in recent history, going after low propensity voters of which trump leads significantly is going to lead to victory. look, there are 1.7 million gun owners and hunters in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, north carolina and georgia. if the trump campaign can focus in on getting a 5-10% of those people to register and come out in november, that's ball game. griff: yeah. hunters, and i talked with joey

jones who i'm often on shows with on fox, a big hunter. he talks ability trying to get them out to vote more -- about trying to get them out to vote more. let me ask you, jason, bill maher had a great comment last night -- >> i love bill maher. griff: here we are, i believe the number's 37 days that harris, you know, becomes the nominee and won't do an interview, won't do a press conference. here's what we heard from bill maher last night. i want to to get your reaction. >> the fact that kamala doesn't talk to the press. in a a way, i feel like it's more insulting than what trump does. trump says you're the enemy of the people, which is pretty bad. [laughter] but she's kind of saying i don't need you. i'm not talking to you, you don't matter, you're not relevant anymore. to me, that's even worse than i hate you. it's, like, i don't think you. griff: what do you think? >> i actually do think harris

should be doing a lot more interviews with the press, and i do think you're going to start to see that happen. i also see the possibility of her engaging with a lot of influencers. gen-z is going to play a huge role in this election. one of the things me and my organization have been doing is actually focusing on can with we get out the young vote. and when it was bide, it was really hard to get young people organized and engaged, but now they're engaged, and most of them are engageed in harris and what her campaign is doing on social media. so i do think you're going to see her roll out a series of interviews with organizationses including fox, msnbc, cnn, the whole gamut -- griff: good. can you give her a call for us? >> absolutely, would be happy to. i think you'll see that the next few weeks leading up to the debate, but i do agree they've been holding back too much. this was the problem with biden too. let kamala be kamala. they should have her out there engaging with the press. there might be a mistake here or there, but 90% of the time she's going to crush it. griff: they sure don't seem to

want to be going with that plan. ryan, last word. >> please, let kamala be can kamala. [laughter] i also believe with this g accident influencer, i'm hopeful that the endorsement from bobby kennedy will lead to an interview with joe rogan, for instance. that's where republicans have a lot of room to grow. and what we're talking about, these low propencety voters, this is where they're getting their information and entertainment. republicans need to go where they are and make that appeal to them. and i think we can win it. griff: ryan taylor, jason palmer, i apologize, we had to cut it short because of the nasa press conference. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having us. alicia: thanks, griff. how kamala harris' economic plan would affect your family, that's next.ly ♪ a health. ensure max protein has a 30 gram blend of high quality protein to feed muscles for up to seven hours.

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to everyone. that's why we will create what i call an opportunity economy. alicia: vice president kamala harris touting her plan for what she called an opportunity economy should she win the white house in november. so for more on this we're joined by job creators' network foundation president elaine parker. elaine, good to see you again. opportunity economy, what does that mean to you, and what should americans take away from that? >> well, look, they want to dig down and peel that onion back a little bit, the harris-walz campaign has proposed about a $5 trillion in taxes on our job creators starting with increasing the corporate tax rate from 211 to 28% -- 3221 to 28%. and while they want us all to believe that's going to affect amazon and google, the reality is that there's a million small businesses hard structured as corporations and will be -- that are structured as corporations and will be hit with this massive tax increase. she's going to hit the other 332 the million small businesses in

this country by allowing the tax cuts and jobs act to expire. if they want my add a vase on their economic plan, to steal a line from president joe biden, don't. don't, don't, don't. you will devastate our small business community. alicia: you know, we did see this week the bureau of labor statistics' job revision by a whopping 88818,000 -- 818,000 jobs. that's the largest in 15 years. and so when i saw that, i thought about all of those press releases and those vents by the biden-harris administration touting the economy, talking about jobs and how things were so fantastic and being frustrated, we heard, that americans weren't kind of catching on to how good the news was. and it turns out that americans were seeing those numbers but then talking to their neighbors and friends and going, i don't know, things just don't feel that great. and here we are. >> i couldn't agree more. i mean, and what we've been saying, and it confirms what

we've been saying, this is a 30% reduction in the jobs that have been reported. and it confirms what we've been saying and that's that the labor market is much weaker than was reported. and it does negate all those positive headlines that allowed the biden-harris administration to paint a very rosy picture of the labor market and the economy. and even when you peel back that onion a little bit and look at the jobs revision, we saw manufacturing jobs revised down about 1200,000 jobs -- 120,000 jobs. we saw government jobs increase. under this administration, the government -- the jobs that have been created, 600% of them have -- 60% of them have come in the form of government and quasi-government jobs like health care and social services that are supported by taxpayer dollars. that's not how you get to a strong labor market. you have to cut government spending and decrease inflation. you have to increase energy production and bring down the cost of living crisis. and that will strengthen our

labor market and our overall economy. alicia: elaine parker, we are short on time today because of the breaking news from nasa, is i'm glad we got you in here for this conversation, and we appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks so much. ♪ griff: israeli negotiators are in egypt for talks to salvage a ceasefire deal with hamas. it comes as fighting ramps back up many central gaza. alex hogan is live in tel aviv with the latest. hey, alex. >> reporter: hi, griff. hamas says its negotiators are in cairo, egypt, for these talks. we mocha tar and egypt have is representatives that are speaking with hamas as the u.s. puts a lot of pressure on israel to agree to this deal. president joe biden held talks this year with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, he also they would conversations -- held conversations with the leaders of qatar and egypt urging them for the need for this current peace proposal. until then there's been continued ground operations today in the gaza strip where

palestinian health officials say israeli airstrikes killed as many as 50 people today, and medics say yesterday israeli shelling killed several people who were fleeing during army evacuations. here in israel tonight there are some protests, taking place with people here calling on the government to strike a deal, saying that is the only way to get hostages home, some of them holding up signs tonight reading a deal is our only hope. griff? griff: alex hogan following all of that for us, thanks. >> as president, i will stand strong with ukraine and our nato allies. [cheers and applause] with respect to the war in gaza, president biden and i have working around the clock. griff: vice president harris at the dnc making remarks about her vision on foreign policy. former ambassador at large and coordinator for counterterrorism nathan sale joins us now. mr. ambassador, thank you. you heard a. alex hogan's great

reporting about where we are in the ceasefire, and i want to ask you about harris at the dnc. but first on the very latest as the high-level talks start tomorrow in cairo. are we expecting still that iran could attack? how does all this put it into perspective? >> get -- well, griff, it's been quiet for the past month. remind to july, israel eliminates two senior iranian-backed terrorists, and ever since then the iranians have been rattling the saber and threatening to take action. it's interesting to that they haven't, and it's no secret, i think, why. an enormous amount of firepower has been moved into the region. we have the ability now to impose massive costs on iran should they choose to escalate. it's a very clear message, right? don't. except now it's not just words, it's deeds. so it's very possible that iran is looking over their shoulder, seeing enormous if american military capabilities and deciding, you know what?

do we really, really want to go toe to toe with washington? and the message here, and this applies to the ceasefire talks as well, when america projects strength, our adversaries back down. it's only when we come off as weak and indevice we've like we have since the -- indie icive, that our adversaries seek an opportunity to exploit weakness. griff: there are critics, so what is your view of we heard harris there, vice president harris, talking but there are israeli critics that fear there's daylight now between a future president a harris and current president biden with respect to the protection of israel. >> yes. think their fears are well founded. we've seen that the biden administration has talked a big game about backing israel but then quietly, sometimes not so quietly, they'll lean on israel and show daylight between washington and jerusalem which is encouraging to hamas, it's encouraging to iran. the pattern keeps plague out over and over again -- playing

out. israel says, yes, we agree to the terms of a deal, and hamas decides, welsh since we sense this daylight between two otherwise close allies, let's see if we can hold out for more. that is not going to bring the hostages home, that is not going to to the enable israel to achieve its objectives of eliminating hamas, and it's going to encourage iran to continue to follow its so-called ring of fire strategy, encircling israel with terror proxies from the north all the way around to the south. griff: which is so well framed, the problem there. and before we run out of time, i want to shift gears. today's the 33rd independence day of ukraine. we saw this prisoner swap, 1115 on both sides. -- 115 on both sides. we also saw yesterday the administration funding more weapons for ukraine. is it your sense as ukraine tries to advance into russia that the administration is continuing to fully support ukraine in its effort?

>> it would be nice if they did. you know, we just heard from the vice president that she'll fully back ukraine. well, that would be a change. what we've seen over the past two and a half years is the white house constantly forcing ukraine to fight with one hand behind its back. we declined to provide them the with the weapons they need, or when we do provide them with weapons, well, you can't use them inside russia itself. just yesterday we saw a report where the white house was saying, well, we don't really want the ukrainians to use weapons in russia because after the war ends, we're going to have to reset relations -- griff: a reset. that was in politico. ambassador, i'm sorry we had to cut it short with all of this news and nasa press conferences, but thank you for your great insight. former ambassador nathan sales, thank you a. >> thanks, griff. herb herb before we go, the videos going viral this weekend. that's next.ders ♪ ♪ but starting it eight months pregnant.. that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up.

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