abby gate and families want accountability, still. >> the biden administration is 100 percent at fault for why my son lost his life. and now i look at the way our country is going and i think this is not what my son died for. >> brian: gold star father joins us live this hour. and by the way it's august 26th. >> steve: plus, the white house posts this picture of our leaders at work but biden joe

biden is taking his vacation in. is he delaware for another week off. who exactly is running the country. house speaker mike johnson would like to know and is he going to join us this hour. >> ainsley: out of this world humiliation. boeing employees mortified its rival rescue those astronauts stuck in space. the second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now and remember, mornings are better with friends. started with president biden leaves vacation for another one in delaware. >> steve: donald trump both hit the campaign trail in several key battleground states. >> ainsley: peter doocy is at the white house with the latest. hey, peter. >> peter: good morning. if you saw this you would see that president biden is here walking out of the office rose garden private moment with his partner, the vice president, especially since the caption

says we are working for you. the president is not here. he left his california vacation for a delaware vacation vice president harris is in town. we don't expect to see much of her until wednesday and thursday. she will be in georgia both those days. her only battleground of the week. trump plans to visit virginia and michigan. wisconsin and michigan thursday. then pennsylvania friday. their first in person meeting is supposed to be september 10th for an abc debate. their campaign is now telling politico unlike last time trump v. biden they would prefer the mics be hot the entire time. they think trump wants the mics muted but there might not be a debate at all after an abc interview of tom cotton yesterday that trump did not think was fair. is he questioning now on truth social why he should participate in an abc debate at all. back to you. >> steve: peter, i just got a text message from your mother. do you have a cold? >> peter: no, i think i just had something in my throat. i'm good.

mom, thank you. >> steve: all right. thank you. one other quick question for you. you talked about the potential debate on september the 10th. they might leave the mics hot. kamala harris in the meantime. one of her press people was on with yesterday with howie on media buzz. and said she definitely will do an interview. before the end of this week. and that she has done 80 interviews so far this year. does that little 10 seconds that you talked to her a couple of days ago, does that cownsd as one of the 80? >> peter: if it does. we should talk to promos and hike as exclusive. no, if you are the harris team, it's smart. because they pushed it off. pushed it off. pushed it off to the last three day weekend. when people are not paying attention before the election. and so, if there is an issue, if she makes a mistake, it's going to get a lot less scrutiny right away than if they do it after the first week of the nfl

football like on that sunday night. >> ainsley: peter, her campaign is saying she changed her mind on some of these issues like fracking. she is no longer against fracking or she is not going to take away our private health insurance companies? who was saying that? is it just anonymous sources or did you get names of people in the campaign? how do we know she really feels this way? because we haven't heard from her. >> peter: she has not said that out loud. i have emailed as things have come up. many different people that are working in wilmington. they will tell us on background, which basically just means on behalf of the campaign, they will tell us that her position has changed. we have not heard the words come out of her mouth. and, depending on who she does the interview with. we might not. because, the way that a lot of these interviews go, and based on what the convention program was, chances are, it could be a lot about trump and not a lot about how different her 2019 statements are to 2024. >> brian: coming up without her

even on the sunday shows which you think would be friendly environment. i can't understand outside oprah and rachel maddow how that would not come up. jake tapper. they are asking those questions. hypotheticalsly, because she won't appear on their shows either. >> peter: the reason i think that for the last four years i keep like a running list of questions for joe biden. and i have watched interview after interview that he has done sitdowns and pretty much none of them get answered -- asked or answered. >> steve: indeed. do we have any idea hot person might be who gets the interview? >> peter: not yet. >> steve: okay. >> ainsley: thank you so much. >> steve: glad you are healthy. >> ainsley: yes. it's been 36 days since she jumped into the campaign and has not had a sitdown interview. people do have questions about her policy because we heard her at the dnc, she just bashed donald trump and they all talked about abortion. the abortion issue. but never talked about what her policies are going to be. if you go on her website. her policies are not listed. tom cotton sat down on one of the sunday shows, and he says we

all deserve to see her in an interview. listen. >> when she campaigned for president in her own right shoes, did he in fact promise things like decriminal riding illegal immigration. >> taking away health insurance. >> that's a position she has clearly changed on. >> no, she hasn't. >> yes, yes, she has. >> no. she has not said that you pointed out senator sanders repeatedly things that her campaign has said. anonymous aides speak being on background reporters who said she who no longer believes these things. okay. maybe she has changed her position on things like taking away your health insurance and confiscating your gun. if she has changed her position, she owes it to the american people to come out and say in her own words when she changed and why she changed. that's one reason why she needs to address the american people and speak to these questions. >> brian: one of the many reasons. i laugh, too. because this guy, another one of these pollsters said i don't think she should talk to press at all.

because she is doing good the way she is right now. she should talk to the people. she doesn't talk to the people. talk to them doesn't listen to the people. she gives a speech in front of a supportive crowd. >> ainsley: teleprompter. >> brian: i'm not so sure. her momentum is done. trump had it in july she had in august. now flat-footed tie. i don't know if you have seen the siena, "new york times" poll. in georgia trump is up 6. so there's a push and there will be a bump from this. but, after this, i think people are really going to a discerning look at what exactly she stands for you can't dispute who she stands for you don't know what kamala harris, you are fighting. are you fighting the vice president? are you fighting the senator? are you fighting this new person who is running on donald trump's issues? like strong on the border? fighting crime? a strong defense? red, white, and blue. excuse me, it's like david plouffe came in threatened a said the reason why trump is

popular because of these things. so let's give them to harris. i think the most egregious example was the tips. i don't know that was the tip of the iceberg of the theft of the republican party. >> well, both sides know that the debate, aside from this interview that is supposedly going to happen in the next five days, the debate could change the trajectory of the race. after the -- this interview, then there is going to be one debate we know of although donald trump is suggesting he might not do it after whatever he saw on abc. so, ultimately, if that changes the trajectory, the less she says, the better. so i get what the pollster is saying but at the same time, tom cotton is right. only words that have come out of her mouth things she said about her policy in 2019. for peter doocy to just say that he has heard from people close to her in the campaign but it's all on background, that is how they are programming the press.

they're saying, okay. on background, this is -- she has changed her position. but we need to hear her say i have changed my position. >> ainsley: how are we supposed to believe that joe biden ran on being a moderate. going to unite our country. our country has never been so divided sings can i remember it. didn't work. he lied to the american people. he ended up voting in such a progressive manner. how do we know she is not going to do that? that's the way she stood throughout her entire political career. >> here's the hope. they keep booking people like tom cotton, marco rubio and j.d. vance on the other networks where they get their pointed out. these hosts have nothing to stands on. jonathan karl pretty adept guy. no follow up. he knows tom cotton is 110% right. why donald trump didn't say this or that the whole time. at one point when you invite other people on, you are going to hear it. independents and undecideds that watch those networks. when his surrogates go out there, governor burgum and others, they -- marco rubio, when he comes back, i guess is he on vacation now. when you book these guys and

lindsey graham, you get the other side. meanwhile, also, i have to say this. front page of the "new york times," the first gentleman is a sex symbol? please,. >> steve: second gentleman. >> brian: second gentleman he wants to be the first gentleman. he says he is a sex symbol. when doug -- what's his last name? >> steve: inhofe. >> brian: is a sex symbol. that goes beyond reproach. >> ainsley: this is the "new york times"? >> brian: third story in the "new york times" sex symbol doug emhoff. >> ainsley: that surprises me. i don't expect that from the "new york times." >> steve: lead story? >> brian: no the other story was how kamala harris is not from -- is not from berkeley. she is from oakland because it makes it seem rugged and tough as opposed to berkeley which is berserk. >> steve: you are spending a lot of times on the "new york times." we have a website foxnews.com.

>> brian: got to be prepared. >> steve: 7:11 in new york city. headlines in louisville, kentucky. remember one of those three police officers arrested professional golfer scott j shepler at the pga championship p championship earlier this year. one of those officers arrested in unrelated incident. during a traffic stop. haver downs took around $4,000 from a person he arrested while on duty. he has been charged with unlawful taking over $1,000 and official misconduct and has been placed on emergency suspension as the police chief has start wanted the process to apparently fire him. officer downs was one of the three officers involved in the arrest of scottie back in may, prior to the second round of the pga championship officer downs' body camera was turned off during the golfer's arrest. we remember that. >> brian: look at that picture. >> steve: a violation of louisville's police policy. all charges against scheffler have been dropped. didn't see that coming.

>> ainsley: whoa. >> brian: still had a great year and pretty good tournament after that happened. >> steve: he did. >> brian: he just wanted to get to the course. to his credit he never said i'm scottie scheffler he asked a reporter to help him out would you tell him who i am. >> ainsley: take the money from this suspect? >> steve: don't know. >> ainsley: don't get me in trouble? okay, pay me? is what what it was. >> brian: a lot of body cams these days might not be a good time to do that. >> steve: a lot of body cams. we only have two. >> brian: all shooting our bodies. our tore torsos. >> steve: meanwhile, another story for you. the ongoing starliner saga. elon musk company spacex will apparently have to rescue the two astronauts who have been stuck in pace space for months after taking a test flight on boeing's starliner spaceship. and some boeing employees are

reportedly humiliated by the move. you can understand that they told the "new york post" on the condition of niment, quote. we have had so many embarrassments lately. we are under a microscope. this just made it like 100 times worse we hate spacex, it's shameful, embarrassed. horrified. the trip was supposed to be 8 days. thruster issues. 8 weeks boeing starliner craft on the way. astronauts butch will more and sunny williams will have to stay up on the spacecraft sand space station until february to come back when spacex's upcoming crew 9 dragon mission will be complete. the starliner is expected to leave from the space station and land back on earth next month without the two astronauts. >> brian: going to send the rocket back but too dangerous to put people in there. >> steve: it drives itself. >> brian: wrong space suits. spacex extra space suits? >> steve: they don't fit in the spacex.

>> brian: do they have like their sizes? >> steve: i'm hoping. >> ainsley: shape spacex up there with new suits for them. >> steve: it's crazy. >> ainsley: why february? i don't understand that. has anyone answered that question? why can't they just send it up next week? >> steve: it takes a while to get ready. >> brian: i guess. so i don't know. >> steve: mixing the tang only takes 5 seconds. >> best of luck sorry you hate this great company so-called spacex, i know it's a rival. >> steve: they are going to save them. i would love anybody who saved me. meanwhile the founder of the app. telegram has been arrested in paris in paris. >> ainsley: jonathan turley says it's part of the anti-free speech modify in europe. >> brian: plus speaker mike johnson next.

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♪ >> fox news alert. back to the big news in kabul. we are hearing about an explosion that has just taken place at the airport in kabul. this was the warning we were getting late last night and overnight. the worst possibility appears to have happened here, dana. >> reports on the ground do

indicate an a large explosion outside of the abbey gate. >> i'm told by a white house official that the president has been briefed. >> i got a baby girl 5 years old she died right in my hands. i think some of the emergence got hurt, too. people are running around. >> there was a suicide bomber on foot and then there was a fire fight that broke out. >> i don't know the words to describe what is going on down there. all access points to the airport have been blocked by taliban. >> i'm also told that there is no safe gate at the airport. >> we can confirm here at fox news the death toll has risen yet again. it is 13 u.s. service members, 12 marines, one navy medic, who died as a result of these two suicide bombings in kabul today. >> steve: that day was three years ago today since the tragic death of those 13 u.s. service members at the abbey gate in kabul during the evacuation of

u.s. forces from afghanistan. our next guest is mark schmitz a gold star father of lance corporal jared schmitz who was lost in that tragic attack three years ago today. mark joins us from missouri. mark, good morning to you. >> good morning, sir. thank you for giving us a voice again. >> absolutely. and you have been on this program a number of times. take us back, if you don't mind, three years ago. you heard there was a suicide attack. you didn't know that it impacted your family and would change your family forever. how did you get the word and what did you think had happened? >> i actually was in bed with cody, i remember that day very, very well. and just roughly a little over 35 minutes from now. my son lost his life. along with 12 others of his brothers and sisters. you know, shortly before this happened. i had a chance to speak with jared, he told me he was going to be actually going out on the tar pack. they were repositioning him to

something new. and i thought that was great. you know, give him a different experience than what hell he was in outside that gate for so long. and when the explosion happened, of course, my heart sunk that we have lost some service members and their poor families. you know, the back of my mind, i thought my son was safe. because i thought he was on the airstrip. unfortunately, that was not the case. >> steve: fast-forward to today, joe biden, the commander-in-chief, you know, i don't know -- i know in the press conference afterwards he said the buck stops with him. but, unfortunately for your families and the over 12 families, it doesn't bring anybody back. >> well, no. and he has never mentioned their names to this day publicly. we have kamala harris now who claims she was in the room, all the way to the end. and she owns this as much as he does, you know, she is following in the policies that the joe

biden has ushered in during his presidency. and, obviously, neither one of them know what the heck they are doing. that tar terrifies me. we know we can't bring our kids back. what we want to see is the military that is out in the field right now, those families are never going to be put through what we have been put through. it's been absolutely shameful. it's incredibly disgusting. the treatment that our families have been given because we have no accountability whatsoever not a single person fired. and forward promotions for people who don't deserve their job anymore. centcom the cover-ups have been nonstop since the beginning. we went to centcom to be briefed on that most recent report and they continued to tout that there was no post blast gunfire. we knew that was a lie. and then shortly after that, you know, video surfaced and it shows all the gunfire that was going on after the fact.

we don't understand why we keep getting lied. to say and it's got to stop. >> steve: it does have to stop. something that you started in your son's name after this terrible act three years ago is the freedom 13 organization. tell us about it and what you guys do? >> the 10 thought foot view is we would like to build 50 recreational recruit camps in all states. one in each state. each would be 100 acres or more with 13 houses so a total of 50,000 plus acres. 6650 houses. one of each of those 13 house also be reserved for a veteran and their family to live in full time rent and mortgage free work as a property manager on site. serving as for other basis. be like airbnb for vets and their families with absolutely no charge for them. we want them to come back out, reset, reboot. hang around with other veterans,

do fishing, hiking, hunting. just a chance to lean on one another. we all know there are vets doing better than others and others not do so well hopefully can get that ear they need from a veteran who has figured out how to react back to sewed again. >> it sounds like a great program it. folks watching right now. if you would like to support here is the address right there. the freedom 13 dot oorgan. mark, thank you very much for joining us live and remembering this terrible day. god bless you and your family. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> steve: you bet. we're going to continue on with house speaker mike johnson. is he next and he has a special announcement regarding the families of those 13 service members who died three years ago today. that can last for weeks.

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>> brian: fox news alert. joint chiefs of staff in israel right now as the u.s. works to avoid furthest can a labor relation in the middle east. at least one -- i should say israeli naval soldier was killed as the ivf and israel traded fire over the weekend. trey yingst is live in tel aviv. trey? >> trey: yeah, hey, brian, good morning. after israel launched preemptive strikes against hezbollah over the weekend. the region is now waiting to see what comes next. >> the iran-backed group actually tried to claim victory following the exchange of fire on sunday and claimed without evidence that they targeted only military positions and fired close to tel aviv. the reality is that two thirds of the rockets and missiles they had prepared to launch were actually destroyed by the israeli military. hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah warned of further attacks in the future. as the region surveys the aftermath of the events over the weekend. joint chiefs chairman c.q. brown was in israel today for meetings he spoke privately with israel's defense ministerio lava gallant.

american assets spread throughout the region iran and proxies from further attacks as israelis remain on high alert. >> why have been fights this terrorist organization for 10 months. we are not prepared and alert and our systems are not high -- we are keeping our alerts up. we are keeping our defense up. >> trey: with cease-fire talks ongoing in cairo, u.s. officials remain hopeful the end the war in gaza. talks constructive also immediately rejected by hamas who say the terms have changed. there are still more than 100 israeli hostages inside gaza and the death toll amongst palestinian civilians continues to rise. brian? >> brian: all right, trey. thanks so much. many fronts on this war. speaker johnson knows all about it. he joins us now. mr. speaker,

you saw trey's recap of what happened over the weekend. we should also tell everybody the abraham lincoln strike group and the theodore roosevelt strike group. aircraft carrier groups are still in the area. and we also have a guided missile submarine still in the area, which it could be lethal. it's a lot of assets. do you agree with it? >> i do. we have to have a strong show of force. we have to let the world know and certainly or adversaries iran and all of its proxies understand that america will stand with israel. will defend israel. the most stable, the only democracy in the middle east there, the most stable one our close ally and critically important partner for us. this is not a game. because dithers for so lock and because biden and harris did not show decisive action. they withheld weapons systems and all the rest. that's what has gotten us into this mess. that has helped escalate it. we got to stand strong now, it's overdue. >> cease-fire talks are continuing, what are the terms in which you think it would be a good move? my fear is if hezbollah --

excuse me, if hamas survives, we just put off the next attack for the palestinian people to have a shot at any type of freedom, you got to get rid of hamas, how do you do that if you stop now? >> >> you don't. and, remember, these negotiations that they are talking about are between a nation, israel, and a terrorist organization. so, the deference should go to the nation, of course. we trust israel. we defer to them on what is enough. but they understand that they are facing existential threats to the very existence as the nation as a state, and this is serious business. they cannot let up now. they have to eliminate the threat. and we got to trust them that they know whether that time comes. >> brian: just take a look at speaker -- mr. speaker, take a look at kamala harris' record. real record. when it comes to -- when it comes to foreign policy and when it comes to law and order. for example, in 2004, declined to pursue the death penalty against a confessed gang member who murdered san francisco

police officer. 2019, pushed criminal justice system including eliminating cash bail. 2020 suggested donating to a bail fund for blm reuters. that's really what she about. george floyd riots? >> i went to the site, the pertinent where it all again may, june of 2020 where those riots began and tim walz was the governor. he allowed minnesota to burn. he allowed minneapolis to burn. he sat on his hands while that happened and gave sympathy, really to the rioters. when he ran for governor last time in that state, in minute tote society, they dubbed him the godfather of crime and lawlessness. what happened in minnesota and minneapolis there then spread to other cities as we know around the country and even around are the globe. the lawlessness that faulted. the chaos that followed.

originally he was the architect of. the pointed is here, you have to be very sober minded when you go into that ballot box. safety and security are number one issues to people around this country. they don't feel safe. they don't feel stable right now. if you put kamala harris and tim walz in charge, your family is not safe. your children are not safe when they walk on the streets in the daytime. you have to take that into account. >> brian: all right. the other thing to point out, too. they have lost 1700 cops in the area. if you go to a timberwolves games. everything is hollowed out. burnt out. did you find out that the recovery has been ridiculously slow? >> yes. in fact, we stood and held a press conference in front of the third precinct, the police precinct that burned. it still is surrounded by a gate and concrete barricades them have not rebuilt. over 1500 buildings in minneapolis were allowed to be either destroyed or significantly damaged. and many family businesses were run out of town. they are not on the side of the american people of law abiding citizens of small business owners. they are on the side of the criminals.

they have a record as long as my arm to prove that we have got make sure the american people understand what this is about. >> brian: mr. speaker, i do get the sense that nobody is running this country. i know we have a lame duck president now reluctantly for him. he goes to california.then he g. we have a world on fire right now. we have economic things that's got to be democratsed. we have a border that now both sides agree needs to be fixed. where is he? >> that's great question. i mean, joe biden has been checked out for a long time and kamala harris knew it. the entire time. she was the one of the people, remember that, they bragged about was the last one to leave the room when major decisions were made as if joe biden was making them. she is responsible. she carries the burden of that that's her record. we got to understand, too do mess stick affairs or foreign affairs. the only person our adversaries fearless than joe biden is kamala harris. imagine her as the commander-in-chief of the u.s. military and these dangerous times. this is the most dangerous time

since world war 2, brian. we cannot afford to do it. you got to have donald trump in the white house. is he the one they fear and respect. >> brian: mr. speaker, i don't know if you have a monitor. look at the still picture they put out. they have to be embarrassed that nobody is running the office of the white house. put out a picture, generic shot of them working together when one is on the beach and the other is on the campaign trail. come on. no shame, saw that at the democratic national convention fantasy over fact. got make sure people understand this is not -- you can't make an emotional decision here. you have got to make a decision based on the record not the rhetoric. they are saying things that are patently untrue. they are gaslighting the american people. they expect that, i guess, the people are not intelligent enough to figure this out. this is for all the marbles. this is the most important elections of our lifetimes no, question. and everybody understands that around the country. brian, i have been to 191 cities in 38 states in the last 58 months it. doesn't matter where i am north,

south, east, west. people get it. they are fed up. and i think they will make the right decision when they go not election booth. >> brian: really close going to be decided in the next 70 days. gone from the headlines but not from the consciousness is the donald trump assassination investigation and word is frustration from congress of people that want answers and ffeel the fbi slow-walking this whole thing. we know the congressional investigation committee is going to butler. led by, i think, congressman johnson who has area. what are you looking for and how hamstrung are you if the fbi won't offer their help? >> yeah, ron johnson in the senate was putting some things out yesterday. we have individual members. our task force is doing extraordinary work. they have been working around the clock since we named that several weeks ago. and mike kelly is chairing that because he is from nth butler pennsylvania. >> brian: mike clerks my bad. >> member of congress. is he doing a great job on that. there will be public comments today a press conference. but they have been digging.

in getting the answers and requesting documents they have been slow walked. that's the concern. so we are press and go. we got to get the answers the american people. and i'm confident our task force will get that done. >> we know nothing about this guy. i know it's not exactly the lee harvey oswald investigation. why does he have encrypt app.s. who was he communicating to? why are we still having trouble getting to his phone. curiosity things have left much in the media. maddening to me. on a separate note. no one has to tell you three days until the day explosion of abbey gate. we lost 13 great servicemen and women. many more were wounded. many afghans were killed. and we knew this was all coming. the investigation has been frustrating because the president doesn't want to hear it. won't comment on it. you will. what action are you taking? >> well, we're doing everything that we can and then congress we have a duty to honor the selfless sacrifice and the greatest price that was paid by those 13 brave servicemen and women. you had husbands and brothers

and sisters and fathers in that group. great americans. what we're going to do is issue for them the congressional gold medal to their families. it's the highest honor that congress can pay to civilians or to military personnel to any group. and we're going to do that. we have to make sure that the american people know that sacrifice. it was the greatest foreign policy blunders of our lifetimes. it led to a series of other events and emboldened our adversaries around the world and allowed the taliban to take back over and we effectively sacrificed 20 years of our effort in servicemen and women who served there. it was a terrible thing. but congress is going to make it right as best as we can. and honor them in that very important way. >> brian: mr. speaker, are you announcing this for the first time right now. >> yes. we are making that announcement and delight dod do it. oversue. three years as you noted and families still suffering. the american people owe them a debt of gratitude never be fully paid. why are going to do everything we can in a bipartisan way,

bicameral way to give that honor to those families. they well deserve it. >> brian: have the democrats expressed to you they will back you on this? >> i'm sure that they will. i can't imagine anybody would vote against that. but they will hold back their -- some of their opinions. i think we all recognize that when someone puts on the uniform and takes their life in jeopardy and pays that ultimate price they deserve that great award, regardless of how terrible the decision walls by the commander-in-chief to put them in that situation. >> brian: you guys will be back to work in a week in washington see what can be done in the sprint to november. thanks, mr. speaker, appreciate it. >> thank you, my friend. god bless. >> brian: meanwhile, straight ahead, the founder of the telegram has been arrested in paris. professor jonathan turley completely against this success and part of the worrying anti-free speech movement that he wrote about in his book. is he coming up. ♪

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including this one where the gang's leader shot two men. local police have formed a task force with state officials to fight the threat. police in texas are looking for a group of suspects who broke into a local gun shop by ramming an suv through the front of the store there it is. despite the heavy damage they caused the robbers only making off with two knives and a flashlight. repairs to the gun store are being estimated over $20,000. so, flashlights gone but at least the store can be repaired. now those are your headlines, now go to a fox weather alert. hurricane hone drenching what you with flooding rain as it passes south of the big island, second storm hurricane gilma is churning through the pacific, could hit hawaii hard later this week. fox weather correspondent robert ray is live in hill low. robert? >> yeah, good morning to you. in the 1:00 a.m. hour here in hill low, hawaii, the big island and, yes, hurricane who he may

now downgraded to a tropical storm as it moves southwest of the american islands, look at these images from yesterday in the aftermath of hurricane hone on the southern tip of the big island flooding all over that part as people were rivers turned into rushing rapids, just tremendous scenes as crew traveled through there to see it all. looking at 15,000 customers still out of power across hawaii here this morning still emergency declaration by hawaii's governor put in place in case people need establishes. thankfully this storm is moving away to the southwest but the impacts still being felt. ainsley? >> ainsley: yeah, so much water there thank you so much. be care of.

all right. the founder of the popular messaging app. called telegram is due in court in the coming days after being arrested in a paris airport as many grow concerned with free speech and censorship online fox news professor jonathan turley good morning to you. >> hi, ainsley. >> ainsley: authorities say the app. was being used for organized crime, drug trafficking, fraud, cycler bullying and promotion of terrorism. despite all of that, you are still against his arrest, why? >> i am. people need to realize what is really going on here. we haven't seen anything akin to a charging sheet but it appears that he is being arrested being designed to force social media companies for censorship. the most infamous for digital services act. i discuss in my book

indispensable right it is one of the greatest threats to free speech that we have today around the world. european regulators have threatened people like elon musk that he needs to censor america's citizens, even candidates like president trump to remove anything that they consider to be false or disinformation. and this is a global effort to control speech. and so, it's hard to be sympathetic with some russian billionaire, right? that's not exactly someone that you rally to the park to defend. but, he is being charged with misconduct of others using his site, it's like arresting at and t ceo. mop used a telephone to do its business the question for american citizens is whether we are going to allow these global censors to basically control speech from europe. free speech is in a free fall in europe. and, ainsley, it was no accident

when elon musk bought twitter. figures like hillary clinton almost immediately went to europe and called on them to use the dsa. consider that. to use the dsa to censor american citizens. that's a former presidential candidate, calling for censorship through these officials. >> ainsley: yeah, i have hard time with this one because i agree with you. who is determining what is misinformation? censorship of that, i understand, that a lot of people are against that. because of free speech laws. but this is promoting danger. >> well, you know, the important thing here is, ainsley, we can arrest people for engaging in conduct. if you are using the telephone or if you are using social media, to engage in human trafficking or child pornography. of course you can be arrested. but, what the complaint is against these social media companies, is that they are not doing enough content moderation. and, of course, they emphasize things like child pornography. but you'll notice they are also talking about extreme

viewpoints. in england, the last two weeks. they have cracked down on what they consider to be extreme ideology. who defines that? in england someone sentence ford having ta aut toxic ideology. americans should not be distracted by implications like the dsa. >> ainsley: they say this website is almost impossible to track back to the messages source. best known for inbreakable encryption. the telegram says it abides by e laws including the digital services act. its moderation is within industry standards and constantly improving. telegram's ceo has nothing to hide and travels frequently in europe. it is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform. did they get him because he enters the french territory? is he flying into paris?

i know he has citizenship in saint kiss. he gave sugar industry to get citizenship there. he was granted citizenship in france in august of 2021. he is also a citizen of dubai. because i think the laws are different there but, did they arrest him because he flew into french territory? >> they did. and what you have in the eu is this all powerful bureaucracy that is controlling and regulating speech. and that means if you go into any eu port, any parent, you could be potentially arrested. that's why they are threatening people like music, he took down some of the system twitter and x. this san important fight. americans' rights are at stake here. don't be distracted. this russian billionaire might not be sympathetic to you, but they are using something that should scare you. >> ainsley: jonathan, thank you so much for coming on. great to see. >> thank you.

>> you are welcome with prices on the rise. we are talking to an independent grocery store owner about kamala harris' price control plan. that is in the next hour. ♪

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