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city. tonight, oare mark zuckerberg ad j.d. vance in agreement. >> companies are too big and too powerful, especially companies that censor american citizens. >> judge jeanine: zuckerberg is coming around and a butler county sniper's shocking revelations about the day trump was almost killed. >> what happened in hindsight on july 13th, a few points i would like to talk or listen that have not sat well with me. >> judge jeanine: kamala's dei dream is turning into a real-life nightmare. >> defund the police, issue behind it, we need to reimagine how we are creating safety. >> judge jeanine: but first -- kamala's tenure in national politics has been marked by incompetent leadership, policy failure and embarrassing public

events. that is all about to change. she's agreed to a cnn interview this thursday, where we'll be introduced to the new and improved kamala. >> if you talk to democrats who know kamala harris and know her well, they say she has developed over the last several years and she's a different person when she made gaffes early on in her presidency. >> judge jeanine: being a senator, vice president was not enough exposure to get to the real kamala, this interview will not reveal anything we don't already know about her. expect this to be purely a puff piece. politico reported how this unfolded, starting with staff asking reporters who they think she should talk to. behind the scenes, tv producers

have been calling the campaign to pitch their italian as person she has to do it with. what might cnn have said to entice kamala to choose them? given how their journalists reacted to the news, we can only guess. >> yes, she will be in a position where she has to answer for reversals on key policy issues and going to use the platform to be relatable and get more people to like her, understand her, empathize and connect with her. >> judge jeanine: you have it, personality over policy, that is what this cnn interview will be, mixed request obnoxious amount of flattery. >> nobody has been put in this position like kamala harris has, that is fascinating to understand about what she's been experiencing and understanding how she is processing that is an

inter interesting part of hearing her in this moment. >> judge jeanine: and kamala won't be doing the interview alone, her sidekick tim walz will be there likely because he has no idea what her positions are either. politico reported the campaign was worried about sending walz out because he might not have a full command of where harris is on every issue. what better place to learn about what his running mate believes than in a friendly cnn chat. he'll be just as disappointed as we are. we will learn nothing about kamala's real policies. newt gingrich will join us in a moment on that. but first -- >> this president's medieval vanity project called a wall. let me be clear, i will not vote for a wall under any circumstances.

this is a vanity project, that wall ain't going to stop them. >> no, no. [cheering] >> judge jeanine: kamala has flip-flopped on a lot to now go along with her tough on crime persona, she sudden ly supports building a wall. you cannot make this up. she pledged to assign congress' failed border bill into law if she wins, which includes 650 million for the wall. harris campaign tried to sweep this under the rug saying it extended the timeline to spend the funds appropriated during trump's administration. the harris campaign knows kamala's views are reprehensible to the public and they to keep

stealing ideas from the trump campaign. d starts her rallies with god bless the u.s.a.? joining us now is tom homan, my friend and former acting director of ice and fox news contributor. do you know what, tom? kamala might support building the wall now. if she gets into office, do you have any doubts she will remove that provision? >> bottom line we know two things. we know the money is available and the materials are there so build the wall. do it tomorrow. the contracts are in place for it. we are spending millions of dollars for these contracts not to build a wall. so simply make a decision tomorrow, start the contracts. you got the materials, you got the money do it. she not going to do it. look, she doesn't support the border wall, we all know. this what she has proven to me and hopefully to many americans, she has absolutely zero integrity because she has s. flip-flopping on everything. >> judge jeanine: what is

interesting is she previously said the wall was unamerican. medieval vanity project and it was a complete waste of taxpayers' money. and so, this is really fascinating. but, listen, j.d. vance today slammed kamala's flip flop, take a look. >> she opened that border on day one and as much as fake kamala wants to pretend that she now agrees with donald trump, we have got to remind her she's the vice president right now. stop talking about what you're gonna do. start talking about what you are going to do right now. because you are the vice president. >> i mean, tom, that's so obvious. she has been there for three years and nine months. he is right. >> look, what can't walk away from is her and biden unsecured the most secure border in my lifetime. on purpose. on purpose. she can't run away from that she can't run away she slandered the horse patrol claiming they are racist from whipping people. she can't run away from callingist the kkk. she can't run away from

supporting sanctuary cities and failure as a border czar. what this comes down to, i wrote an op-ed on this. president trump shut down legislation that could have fixed the border on the senate bill. the senate bill was terrible. the democrats shut down legislation that would fix the border because we passed hr 2 in the house. the senate won't even bring it up. and lankford was played for a fool. the democrats let's bright a bill that we know won't pass. then we can flip the script and blame the republicans. look, they had hr 2. >> it woo would have worked. >> so right, tom, the amazing part of it is we say we can close the border if 5 thowrgets come through. first of all, how do you count 5,000? how many points of entries there are on the southern border? do they call every hour and say we got 1500 here. you got 1200. i got 800. you got 600. you got 5. let's see if we can oat -- it's ridiculous. but the biden-harris administration again, tom, and i'm so glad you are on tonight. because i'm dying to get your answer.

they again blocked a foia request by fox news, to quote: reveal the nationalities of the people on the fbi terror watch list arrested at the border by the border patrol. get this: they cited the privacy interest of those who were encountered and argued that it could expose law enforcement to vulnerabilities, and tip off the terrorists. i could say your thoughts but rather say give me a break. what are your thoughts, tom? >> look, i have been a federal law enforcement officer since 1984. i did this job for three and a half decades. you know a lot about this, too. there is no vulnerability of law enforcement sensitive information privacy. there is a vulnerability. and that's a political vulnerability. because they released that information, it's going to say exactly what the biden-harris team did to create the most -- the most vulnerable national security issue this country has faced. with the southern border wide open. 181 different countries. citizens 180 different countries

have been arrested. many of them are sponsors of terror. we arrested over 380 people on the terrorist watch list. we got 2 million got-aways. how many of them came from sponsoring terror. anybody doubts this. they just arrested 8 last month in new york, philadelphia, and l.a., that were planning a russian type terrorist attack. we know they are here. >> tom, the thing is, just tell us what country they are from. all of a sudden, illegals who are terrorists and stuff are considered to have more privacy rights than the american people? who is making this stuff up? anyways, let me ask you this, if there were biden-harris administration. what is the thing that you worry about most? >> that the border is going to get worse. look, do you know who wants harris to be president in the criminal cartels in mexico. do you know who wants harris to be president? the terrorist organization all around the world who is using our open southwest borders as entry point. do you know who wants harris to be president the country in mexico. the gravy train will continue. they will continue being paid

off by the criminal targets who operate freely in mexico. keep getting $62 billion a year remittance period from illegal aliens and sending money down to mexico. they are scared to death of a trump presidency because he will secure the border. he will shut this down. mexico's gravy train is over. and he will wipe the cartels off the face of the earth. like he did the isis and caliphate. they want president harris. they want a president harris. all the wrong people want her to be president, and that's just a stone cold fact. people can hate me for that statement all they want. >> judge jeanine: who cares? >> the cartels want her to be president. terrorist organizations mexico want her to be president. they want the gravy train and open borders to continue. >> if she cared about human trafficking, if she were such a great d.a. she would have called the u.s. attorneys from the southern border, she would have called the attorneys general, atf, dea. all you guys and said we are going to shut it down. instead she puts up an ad about a case that the cops who were involved in the case say she

just showed up for the press. tom, it's an embarrassment her claiming she a real prosecutor on border crime. anyway, tom, that's my opinion last. thanks for joining us. >> you bet. >> judge jeanine: all right, joining us now is newt gingrich, former speaker of the house and fox news political analyst. newt, i know we're having a couple of technical issues. but we're happy that you are with us now. earlier in the show, we talked about the supposedly new and improved kamala, the one that we are going to see in her interview this week. what are your thoughts? >> well, she has a basic problem. she wasn't born last thursday. we have a record. we know what she said for years. to know what they -- biden, harris administration did. no matter what she tries to say. it is the biden-harris administration. already been in office for i think 1400 days. so, it's very hard for her to get away from the reality that

she is a key player in a failed administration. it's failed on prices. it's failed on the border. she was chair of the national space counsel. they just left two astronauts in space because boeing failed on its contract so they are now going from an 8 day trip to 8 month trip. she doesn't have a clue. she was in charge of that the national space council. every time you turn around you get a laugh, a smile, a nice suit, and nothing else. she cannot deliver anything for working every day americans. >> you know, the sad part about it is that, you know, for the last three years and nine months, whatever it's been. i mean, she has literally been invisible. i mean, she was the -- she was the border czar or whatever road cause you want to call it. but, with her background, she knew how to handle it and she refused to do so. so you have to wonder. but, cnn, with this interview that they are having thursday night, they are hoping most

voters have amnesia. take a listen. >> her talking about these farther left policies that, was now four years ago. we know that the american voter's memory is very short. she has this opportunity to kind of change the narrative. >> judge jeanine: so, newt, does she expect voters to also forget the last four years? >> a great democratic consultant, napolitano wrote election game and how to win it. key principle was never under estimate the intelligence of the american people nor overestimate the amount of information they have. she is the easiest candidate since michael dukakis to simply tell the truth about her and watch her disintegrate. she is a san francisco radical. she picked for vice president, for reasons that strike me as insane governor walz who is to her left. and also by the way lies constantly about almost every

aspect of his record. so, you have in governor walz the man who would not bring in the national guard during the minneapolis riots, and you have in kamala harris, the woman who urged people to give money to the group that was bailing out the reuter rioters who were burg down the city. this is the most far left weird team ever nominated by a major party. and i don't think they can get from here to election day without the american people knowing that. >> judge jeanine: well, we're all concerned about that. newt gingrich, thanks so at which for being with us tonight. a new bombshell report. met that ceo mark zuckerberg comes clean on the biden harris censorship scheme. maya knows how quality care can bring out a smile. but it's been a few dog years since she was able to enjoy a smile of her own. good thing aspen dental offers affordable, complete care all in one place.

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>> meta ceo mark zuckerberg dropping a bomb admitting that the biden-harris white house pressured him to censor americans online. joining us with all the details is fox business correspondent hillary vaughn, hello, hillary. >> hello, judge. mark zuckerberg is getting a lot off of his chest. he penned a letter to congress that reads kind of like a confession of sins admitting that the biden-harris

administration essentially browbeat them to censor americans over covid-19 content. zuckerberg writing this: i believe the government pressure was wrong and i regret that we were not more outspoken about it. i also think we made some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information we wouldn't make today. zuckerberg says they were also wrong to censor the hunter biden laptop story writing it's been made clear that the reporting was not russian disinformation and in retrospect we shouldn't have demoted the story. the white house though wouldn't do anything different. reacting to zuckerberg's admission saying, quote: our position has been clear and consistent. we believe tech companies and other private actors should take into account the effects their actions have on the american people while making independent choices about the information they present. we don't know if vice president harris will continue the same social media censorship effort. if she is president. but the trump-vance team says it won't happen under their administration. >> the leader of one of the most important social networks in the world just came out and said i

censored donald trump in the run-up to the election because there were certain elements within the biden administration and the biden campaign that encouraged him to do it. that is crazy. that is the revelation of censorship in a way that effected an american election. we should be really concerned about it. >> and, judge, zuckerberg says he will stay, quote: neutral in the 2024 election, insisting that the $400 million in donations he gave out in the 2020 elections was nonpartisan but insists that this time he is going to keep his zucker bucks to himself. judge? >> judge jeanine: all right, hillary, thank you so much. joining us now is michael shellenberg censorship politics and free speech at the university of austin and kara frederick former facebook analyst and heritage foundation research fellow. you know, michael, this could mean one of several things zuckerberg is becoming disillusioned with the democrat party. or he is growing a conscience.

or does he think he is going -- that trump is going to win and if he does, why now? >> hey, it's great to be with you, judge. >> thank you. >> it's a great question. i think it's clear that zuckerberg has a legal obligation to maximize shareholder interest. he has clearly calculated repositioning facebook as a politically neutral company as the right thing for him now. you saw him unburdening himself of some of the baggage that has weighed down facebook in recent years. you know, it's important to remember that mark zuckerberg had a very strong free speech orientation after the election of trump. you know, as a jewish american i still defend the right of free speech including holocaust denial after ngos and other groups led a boycott against facebook. he then imposed much more censorship, including censorship that bass demanded by government agencies. so i think it's a freight moment, one of the lessons is

just that the price of free speech internal religion is lens. they had a sweeping program that involved fbi, dhs. it was election interference by the fbi, by fbi, cia, officials, we are all more aware of it now. we need to remain aware of it, it's quite the scandal, and i think that this hopefully signals that such a thing won't happen again, kara, is this a shift to the right, do they think do they think think there may be consequences as a result of what happened as michael talked about the shareholders' interest? >> judge, i actually don't, i would cawghts people on our side who want to hold big tech accountable for from taking a victory lap. mark zuckerberg is not dumb. is he absolutely hedging his bets here because what he has done is he has assessed regulatory landscape and he is determined, hey, i'm not going to really face any real consequences, for my platform,

eagerly ache qui saying to government demands to censor free speech of americans, look at the municipal court? june they had a decision and they rejected the state's attempt to permanently stop the collusion between the biden administration and big tech companies that kicked it back to the states and mark knows democrats are liking this right now, they are not going to do anything about it. and then republicans, establishment republicans, all they are going to do is offer another strongly worded letter. they are not going to do anything. and meanwhile, facebook is going to call a defiant trump holding up his fist in the air, just after he has been shot, misinformation. so it's the same old and hedging his bets, they're rinsing and repeating and just covering it with a veneer of compunction that i don't think zuckerberg really needs. is he just strategic. >> judge jeanine: michael, secretary mayorkas testified to the senate regarding big tech back in november of 2022, take a look. >> you are not pressuring the big tech companies to take down

accounts. you north meeting with them to ask them to censorship on your behalf. >> that is correct. we are not. >> federal government may not use private third parties to engage in activities that are unconstitutional. that's exactly what you and this administration are doing. you are leveraging private companies to carry out censorship on your behalf. it's dystopian. worse than that, it's unconstitutional. >> also false. >> judge jeanine: you know, michael, he was under oath here. was he lying? >> well, it's hard to know exactly what they were talking about. but, i think people should understand that the department of homeland security created multiple censorship initiatives including one that was sort of hidden and deceptively labeled a cybersecurity initiative, another one that was operated out of stanford and three other institutions. so, there was censorship industrial complex fully operating. i think if kamala harris' elected president there was a

strong risk that it will return, but i also think we should give credit where credit is due and jim jordan's committee produced one of the biggest successes of anything that's come out this last congress. and really holding the feet to the fire of both government agencies and social media companies. >> judge jeanine: you are right about that. >> twitter files and facebook files. it's important to recognize victories when we have them. >> judge jeanine: yeah, it is. it is. the question that hillary vaughn asked in the beginning, will the -- if harris is elected, will she continue with this kind of thing? anyway, michael and kara, thank you so much for being with us this evening. and, coming up, special counsel jack smith is back with a new indictment against former president trump. plus, how kamala harris is trying to radically change the supreme court. that's next. ♪

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>> judge jeanine: the left won't let the lawfare go. special counsel jack smith filed a new indictment against former president trump in his election inte interference case. turn to senior national correspondent kevin corke. kevin. >> kevin: great to be with you. special counsel jack smith indictment is effort to respond to a ruling earlier this morning by u.s. supreme court which held former president trump and other executives retain broad immunity for court action taken while in office, specifically in mr. trump's case president of the united states and he would be immune from prosecution for any such official acts. you follow the bouncing ball? the filing today comes after mr. smith presented the case to a

second grand jury which had not heard the matter. this stems from doj insistence the former president took unlawful effort seeking to dispute the 2020 election. the indictment is 10 pages shorter than the original, to respect and implement the supreme court's holdings. smith removed attorney jeff clark's name as co-conspirator. supreme court determined mr. trump's interaction with his own doj represented official acts and were protected by presidential immunity. bottom line, this will not be resolved before november's election. there is another thing, i think people are not talking about, the january 6 committee setup from the get-up termed by a former trump official repeatedly

and unlawful ly attempted to pierce to attack the former president. should garner the attention of the d.c. bar. whether or not that happens is anyone's guess i think it's something worth considering, judge. >> judge jeanine: indeed. kevin corke, thank you so much. and while the left is doing everything it can to throw trump behind bars, they're also trying to dismantle the supreme court. the big concern for them is that the court is truly independent as it should be and that kim's s them. senator sheldon whitehouse has a bill that would totally revamp the court enacting term limits. he expects that kamala will back it. now, here's why you should care if the bill were enacted tomorrow, the winner of the presidential election would effectively be able to replace justice clarence thomas in 2025. and chief justice john roberts

in 2027. joining us now is mike davis, former gorsuch law clerk and president of the article iii project as well as charlie hurt, fox news contributor and "washington times" opinion editor. all right. mike, replacing sam alito would some shortly after that. how does any of this make the court independent? >> so let's get this straight. biden and kamala try to bankrupt trump. they try to throw him in prison for the rest of his life. they are still trying to do that with this jack smith superseding indictment. they tried to throw him off the ballot and when the supreme court got in their way, now they want to destroy the supreme court. this is clearly unconstitutional. we -- lifetime tenure and pay protection is guaranteed in the constitution. because we want federal judges who don't have to fear for their next job. we want federal judges who are independent and they only have

to follow the law. >> judge jeanine: well, the amazing part of this is, i mean, they just can't decide to do this. this takes more than just legislation. doesn't it? >> that's exactly right. it requires a constitutional amendment. and this is pushed by this partisan democrat senator sheldon white house who is a chairman of a key senate judiciary subcommittee on the courts. and he has been out to get the courts ever since president trump transformed the supreme court the first constitutionalist majority in 90 years. >> judge jeanine: all right, charlie, justice ketanji just sat down with cbs and talked about the election. take a look. >> are you prepared that this election could end up before the supreme court? >> as prepared as anyone can be. >> let me ask you, are you prepared for all of the news cycles that. [laughter] >> that you are getting as a result of this election?

>> no. >> judge jeanine: your reaction, charlie? >> well, i hope she has figured out what a woman is. aside from that, all of this, i think, receilings how much how desperate democrats are we should still be very alarmed about it. because, when you look at the senate right now, it's kind of on a knife's edge. in terms of control. and i think it's probably a fair to say that however the presidential race goes, is going to be how the senate winds up going. i think that if democrat -- you know, if for some reason kamala harris does particularly well, i don't think she will. i think she would take the senate with her. likewise, if donald trump wins, and i think he will, he will take republicans with him. you know, he will take republicans will take the senate. but the point here is, the democrats have nothing left to do except to attack our judicial system. and the fact that half of the

country, roughly, supports a party that is hell-bent on destroying our -- the independence of our judiciary is a deeply, deeply alarming thing and should concern all of us. and, you know, and obviously mike is right. you can't do these things without constitutional amendments, but you still have a very, very sick politics in our country. >> judge jeanine: you know, mike, the surprising parts of all of this is, you know, they think the supreme court is nothing more than another legislative body that should be, you know, the politics of whatever president is in power. that just is counter to everything the constitution says. >> yeah. that's exactly right. the supreme court is our last line of defense that protects us from the government. if you think the covid lockdowns are bad. just wait until they pack the supreme court. they goal after our god-given

rights to speak, to associate, to worship, to protect ourselves. look what they're doing in france right now where they are arresting people for having a free speech platform called telegram. >> judge jeanine: yes. interesting. mike and charlie, thanks so much for being with us tonight. and odd, that's the word of butler county sniper used to describe actions after trump was shot. the details, next. ♪

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>> judge jeanine: one of the count ersnipers at trump's rally is warning about strange behavior. speaking to panel of house republicans, ben shafer said it was odd the roof the gunman was on was washed so quickly and he found it odd thomas crooks body was released and cremated and then there is this. >> do you find it odd no ballistics or toxicology report, no confidence in the actual proof of who it was who took the shot has been provided to date

and also how quickly the crime scene at the home was released before any evidence had been obtained and released? >> i absolutely find that to be troubling. >> judge jeanine: joining me is cory mills who questioned that counter sniper. r secret service agent. all right, congressman. >> what else did you find out. >> well, judge, to be honest with you. we end up asking more questions and receiving more questions in return. i mean, one. we have to start asking ourselves. why did secret service refuse so many additional resources and assets that were afforded to them. we know that they were offered additional communication channels that were compatible as well as a platform they could have used which they refused. they know they were offered a surveillance drone, which would have had eyes on the agr building. they weren't going to use the water tower. we know they did not attend the morning meeting to go over the

last morning plans which is what the teams have confirmed there are so many things to this that tells me that woulder actually setting this up for failure in the event of increased threat profile. again, this is coming from dan bongino: former navy seal. coming from shaffer who was actually there on the counter sniper teams. what was going on isn't just a culture impact which it isn't s. a big culture impact dei over a meritocracy. i listed a number of different areas where this has occurred where, whether it's breastfeeding during the donald trump rally by an agent or somebody who broke into the obama-hawaii residents while the daughters were there. there is a continuous problem within the secret service that we are trying to root out. we have to determine purposeful intent or criminal gross negligence. >> and, rich, you were on the presidential detail here. who is in charge of this?

who made the decision to allow them to clean up to. allow them to cream mate the body? this could have been done in a matter of a week all of these interviews. do you get the same sense? >> that's exactly right. you know, judge, this wasn't done in a bubble. this didn't just fall on the shoulders of the director of the fbi or the director of the secret service. in was done in concert and after consultation with the secretary of homeland security who was the director of the secret service answers. to say the department of justice hot bureau answers to. and unknown, unnamed people at the white house. there is no way, none of this goes on and occurs in this matter and treated simply as a routine situation. a routine investigation without both directors get high cover from the highest levels of the u.s. government. >> judge jeanine: and, in the end. should we get those questions? should we get those interviews? >> all of those questions. >> judge jeanine: i'm sorry. >> i was going to say we have to get to the point we also had multi channel detonator and

explosive devices deemed to be sophisticated devices. what 20-year-old knows multi channel sophisticated devices. what 20-year-old has no social media presence that's been scrubbed. what 20-year-old has encrypted accounts three different countries without getting any help. there was help in my opinion that has been provided based on what i see, what i'm hearing and also from confidential information that's coming forward. and that leads me to believe that this is far more than just criminal negligence that there was more nefarious purposes to this event. >> judge jeanine: i think a lot of people would agree with you, congressman. i have said that it is so negligent and so reckless that it border on intentional. my question is why is it that we are not getting these answers now you? are a congress person. you should be getting these answers now. how do they release the body? >> you are exactly right. the coroner said he didn't sign to have release the body. there is another question itself representative clay higgins. i wasn't put onto the select task force.

i guess i'm not much of a go along get along vote for appropriate katieed bills. what we are doing is setting up independent investigation that will not hide behind low level classifications to bring transparency. we may not have subpoena power in our forum. but we do have the ability to have actual whistleblowers who are coming forward who feel safe with us who are bringing the testimony that will be able to provide and will be able to pursue. >> judge jeanine: richard, i said earliy, you were on the presidential detail. i meant earlier in your career. not at the butler rally. but, congressman, and richard, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks. >> judge jeanine: you can forget about just defunding the police. biden-harris may spend millions to disarm them. that's next. ♪ i have dry eye... tired, itchy, burning... my symptoms got worse over time. my eye doctor explained the root was inflammation—so he prescribed xiidra. xiidra works differently. xiidra targets inflammation. over-the-counter drops don't do this.

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more safety by putting more cops on the street. that is wrong. >> judge jeanine: [ chuckling ] forget defunding the police, at the biden and hare's administration wants to disarm their empiric any report from the advisory committee for transportation equity, yes that is a real thing, digests twentymillion dollars to test out if disarming police for traffic stops is a good idea. the committee says "setting a driver for having a broken tail lead, forgetting to use a turn signal or feeling to stop at a stop sign does not require the use of a gun cat taser or similar tool". and what reward from the other report but it was silently taken down today, this may be why, the washington beacon analysed the data which says "routine traffic stops have been a deserted deadliest at a lemon commonly performed police activities since at the start of the biden and harris administration ain't january 2021. joining me now, fox news

contributor and a former new york police department and specular, why don't you just explain it how dangerous of the job of being a traffic cop is and why disarming them it would be a terrible idea? >> terrible idea. this is a solution in search of a problem. because realistically, one traffic stops go bad, 99.9 and present of the time they go bad against the cop. the premise here is somehow these things are going to be safe from going about it we disarm the cops but as is that, is generally the police officer put in danger. most traffic cops work so low. nationwide. nobody to back you up. that's the reason it's so dangerous and i hated traffic stop is because they know you're coming back you get out of the car, you don't know who was in there, you go around the plate but you don't know if there's somebody in the backseat with 1012 does not want to go to jail, you know if their armed, will have to do is go on youtube

and google edit and put it in a search bar. dozens of these were cops were injured or worse, it's an incredible stupid idea. what it is is really ignorant, it shows how ill-informed and complete the removed from reality of what really goes on the people who come up with this stuff. is a $20 million. >> judge jeanine: i hope they won't appear goods one of the most dangerous things you can do. doesn't talk what having social workers responded with police to domestic violence calls which again, like traffic stops are angrily dangerous for the police. you say they are ill-informed but i have to tell you, is a part of me this is a just want to break down society, they want to anarchy, no bail, let's send in everybody's solo, take away their guns pick the criminals are armed, chicago is and was dangerous city around. >> incredible, i was out of there for the dmc for that entire week. the three days you were there there was something like eight fatalities and shootings break

less than one third the size of new york city, yet they double our fatalities. and yet was was to believe that it's a model city, all of this takes place in some far former reality that only makes sense to all of these folks who somehow rather think that a policing interactions between hardened criminals and the police somehow devolves to an equity issue. >> judge jeanine: it you would think after all of these years of no cash bail and the crime is increasing, and they say no it's decreasing. will at some point you don't call the police anymore. you would think just to protect themselves they would want law & order back. but it's like a bad word. >> as you go into the election season as they are backing away, i'm sure that's why this think it disappeared off the website, just not a defined anymore. as we get closer to the election she is morphing into donald trump. some sort of law and order

presence, as soon as we get in a member sixth we know it will go the other weight and she will play back to her base. is unfortunate, we see her go through this every election season and generally who suffers is people in crime-ridden neighborhoods and it's the police are obviously over there trying to do their job. they have to put so much paperwork on police recently, in new york city for car stops, of course cops ago stop doing them and you can see the results. >> judge jeanine: that they lose their interest, we asked why they took it down by the way and we did not get an answer. paul, appreciate you being on. you are the best. that is it for tonight, i'm judge jeanine pirro again for laura ingram, make sure to catch me every monday through friday on the five and follow me on instagram. >> todd: former president donald trump indicted again after special counsel jack smith