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>> it's 11:00 pm on the east coast, 8:00 here in los angeles and this is america's late news, fox news at night. breaking tonight, kamala harris and tim walz sitting down for the very first major interview of their campaign. among the questions what would you do madame vice president on day one as president? >> there are a number of things. i will tell you first and foremost one of my highest priorities is to dual we can to support and strengthen the middle-class >> jonathan: the vice president was also asked why she didn't do more over the last three and a half years to fix the problems she now says she will tackle up your she blamed former president trump. >> we had to recover as an economy and we have done that. donald trump said he was going to do a number of things including allowing medicare to negotiate drug prices.

never happened, we did it. >> jonathan: tim walz was also in on the interview and was asked about a much scrutinized claim about seeing combat during his national guard service. >> this was after a school shooting. the ideas of carrying these weapons of war and my wife, she told me my grammar isn't always correct. >> jonathan: former president donald trump continued campaigning in the rust belt, arguing in wisconsin and michigan today that he is the best candidate on the economy and even trying to win over voters on the issue of reproductive rights. >> your government will pay for, or your insurance company will be mandated to pay for all costs associated with ivf treatment, fertilization for women. >> jonathan: we will have much more on trump's campaign in a

moment but first, griff jenkins is live in dc with more highlights from harris first sitdown interview. >> after avoiding an interview for more than five weeks, vice president harris and her running mate governor walz and sitting down with cnn in a café in georgia addressing one of the biggest questions facing her candidacy, why is she now changing some of her positions. >> i think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions as my values have not changed. you mention the green new deal. i have always believed, and i have worked on it, the climate crisis is real. it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time. >> jonathan: she was pressed on why as a sitting vice president, she hasn't done any of the things she says now need to change. >> i'm very proud of the

work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than 3 percent. we created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs, bringing business back to america. what we have done to improve the supply chain that we are not relying on foreign governments to supply american families with their basic needs, i will say that's good work. >> when it came to the previous vow on a debate stage to ban fracking, her position now is she will not ban fracking. >> we are in 2024 and i've not changed that position or rely going forward to. i kept my word and i will keep my word. >> what made you change that position at the time? >> my values have not changed. >> her rhetoric on getting tough on the border is now on full display. >> you raised your hand when asked whether or not the borders should be decriminalized. do you still believe that?

>> i believe there should be consequence. we have laws that have to be followed and enforced that address and deal with people who cross our border illegally and there should be consequence. >> trump reacted earlier tonight on social media to previous clip , hasn't given us his full reaction to the interview but he says he agrees with vice president harris that her values haven't changed citing that he believes the border will remain open under a future president harris. >> jonathan: thank you. let's bring in former... julian epstein. caeli mckay white and trump campaign senior advisor to myrtle. let me come to you first, thank you all for being here. what was your reaction to the so-called big interview? >> as you know i've been very critical of the campaign for blocking access to the media

including in the wall street journal yesterday and on shows with you and elsewhere. i thought that she had a decent night. i think she didn't embarrass herself which is what everyone was worried about. she's able to meet the living room test which is are you comfortable having this person in your living room for the next four years, and she was able to articulate the broad outlines, even if it was low-calorie. the broad outlines of what her policy views were. on the other hand i think this was about as soft ball up an interview that i've ever scene. there were obvious follow-up questions that she could have asked on fracking, migration, economic policy that weren't asked i think this was a softball interview for the most part. i don't inc. gets her past the issue of media access. i don't think the issue is going to go away but as far as tonight goes it was a decent night for her. >> jonathan: tim? >> the biggest mistake she made and she made it repeatedly is

when she kept saying that her values haven't changed. i think -- i'm sure -- that makes her more untrustworthy because what she's saying is for a long time i believed ask, now i say why but nothing has changed and i think her answer on fracking is a perfect illustration for that and it's going to give her big problems in pennsylvania because she says i support a ban on fracking, today now i don't and nothing has changed. people in pennsylvania are going to look at that and say what are you talking about? she might as well be staring into the camera and saying you can't trust what i say. it took 39 days for us to get to this point. it will be 39 more before she does it again, that's how bad it was. >> jonathan: it did strike me to pick up on the fracking question, not on the policy of fracking specifically. that appeared to be the only policy change where she was pushed a little bit in his interview and to put it kindly,

her responses did appear to have some fragility to them shall we say. is not going to be a theme as we go forward? >> absolutely pure chi think if you are a swing state voter, i of my family and friends back in michigan or ohio, you are looking for three things right now. you are looking for a vision of what she plans to implement if elected in november. looking for answers on why she's flip-flopped on so many of her core policies in the last few weeks. you didn't get those thanks from her tonight. she did not offer an explanation on why she will not ban fracking when i was a key component of her 2020 campaign. go to for dana pressing her on that. dana should have pressed her more on why are you suddenly flip-flopping on this issue? it's a very important question that voters deserve an answer for. >> you've said this was the beginning.

i think in your view a no harm interview and she didn't do any particular harm. what does she need to do next do you think to convince what caleigh was talking about, the swing voters in those battleground states. >> the questions about her preparedness have not come from republicans. they come from democrats. you can trace it back to president biden, the white house staff and left-wing media including the new york times, atlantic magazine, who have all written stories saying that they didn't think she was prepared. i don't think this makes the issue go away and i she's going to have to continue to do more media interviews. the more she resists the more she gets credibility in the republican talk on preparedness. what it think she did tonight was she sort of did move the policy into -- the discussion into the policy realm.

the republicans are more for populist protectionism. it is moving the conversation into a debate on the issues and i don't think as we move into the fault that she's going to be able to or should she avoid more of these interviews. i do agree that some of the answers on fracking as was pointed out are sort of vapour wear. i'm not sure how much strong scrutiny they withstand so she's going to have to up the game a little bit. >> jonathan: she did seem to be reaching for those independent swing voters a little bit, in particular in a clip i want to play for you right now and i will get your reaction on the other side. >> will you appoint a republican to your cabinet? >> yes, i would. no one in particular in mind. i have 68 days to go for this election so i'm not putting the cart before the horse but i wood. i think it's really important. i have spent my career inviting

diversity of opinion. i think and support to have people at the table. >> do you know any republicans who would take her up on that offer? >> i don't know about that. it seems like she was making that up on the fly. all you have to do to know how this interview went for her is to go back and watch the cnn post game show where the panelists, they tried to convince themselves and openly spoke about it. i don't think she did any damage to herself which is the surest fire way to tell that she actually did do damage for herself and they said things like maybe she didn't score a touchdown and maybe we don't like the way she answered that question. it was a disaster. when she talks about republicans or fracking or taxes, she demonstrated to americans that you cannot believe what she said because she's saying i once believed this, i now believe

that. trust me when i say nothing has changed. you cannot trust her and she proved it tonight. it was a disaster. this interview will be with her for a long time. >> jonathan: you're in the middle of of our screens so let me see if you're in the middle on this. julian said didn't do any harm, tim says it was a disaster, what say you? >> i think it confirmed why she hasn't done any of these before. i think it made very clear she's incapable of talking about the issues to push back on julian a little bit here. it was not much discussion of policy beyond what we already knew about her current platform. the buzzwords that she used throughout this interview were moving forward and hope and optimism and joy. was or not issues or policies. voters don't want only hear about how much joy you're going to bring to the white house. they want to hear about what you are going to do about inflation, immigration. she avoided those topics because she knows she's bad on them because trump is trouncing her

in the polls on those issues right now. i think we can expect she will continue to avoid those thanks in the future as well. >> jonathan: have to wrap it up there but thank you all so much. we will have much more to talk about as me move forward. former president trump was on the campaign trail tonight as well as we mentioned. participating in town hall in wisconsin, hosted by former democrat tulsi gabbard. reporting live from across tonight. >> reproductive rights have become one of the top issues were voters, particularly among women and battleground states and president trump has been trying to walk a fine line with his policy proposals for a second term by trying to win over more suburban women without alienating his pro-life supporters. democrats have tried to make ivf an issue as well and this afternoon, and trump pushed back

by announcing that his administration would not only protect access to ivf, he would mandate that insurance companies or the government cover the cost of it for all americans. >> i've been seeing a lot of ivf and i kept hearing i'm against it and i'm very much for it. what we're going to to do is for people that are using ivf which is fertilization, the government is going to pay or mandate your insurance company to pay for it which is going to be great. we are going to do that. >> trump also suggested he supports a ballot measure in his home state of florida that would overturn the state's ban on abortions over six weeks of pregnancy and extended to around 24 weeks. tonight we also got trump's reactions to kamala harris' first sitdown interview since becoming the nominee which...

unsurprisingly he wasn't impressed. >> i just saw her, she was sitting behind a desk doing this interview and she didn't look like a leader to me. i don't see her negotiating with the president of china up your guy don't see her with kim jong un like we did. we are going to have to see what happens. >> tomorrow president trump heads to pennsylvania as his campaign to can use to bars --.. pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin where the race continues to be neck and neck. >> jonathan: thank you so much. with us now, university school of public policy pete peterson and... let me come to you first, willard -- were you surprised by these comments from the former president tonight on ivf and his comment earlier about abortion?

>> that wasn't his position earlier on but is more conversation has been talking about, folks have been talking about how important it is, make sense for him to have that position. i was more surprised that tulsi gabbard... so folks change their position p. or she's one of them so he has the right to change. >> it takes away the trump comments tonight wood appear to take away some of the argument republicans might want to make about kamala harris changing positions. >> absolutely. have to say i'm surprised by former president statesman's this evening. first on that law, that proposition that's in florida putting forward that he would support abortion up to 24 weeks. i think he's really rolling the dice with christian voters,

pro-life voters and catholic voters in particular. especially on that issue as well. he thinks he really needs to protect and attract women voters, especially middle-class, upper-middle-class women as well. as with all of these selections and policy choices, these are trade-offs he's making between competing groups. >> we talked a lot here about moving to the middle perhaps for both candidates and that's where those swing voters are. it appears in both of these instances, kamala harris and former president trump may be both trying to do that. >> i'm an independent so for a very long time folks would say that independence don't count. there are still states like georgia where you don't have to register as an open primary they really do have positions on both sides that they support.

most people support the majority of one side over the other but they are becoming more flexible if you will to understand that it doesn't have to be an all or nothing type of policy. is a little bit of give-and-take if you want to win those voters. former president donald trump is saying the complete abortion ban is not working in his favourite when it comes to winning in those swing states and he needs those votes. >> we have some figures here on voters in the sun belt states and particular. independent voters there. you look at the match up right now, that's the head-to-head matchup. kamala harris just about leading and all of them accept north carolina but all of those numbers are within the margin of error. you look on the issues, who do you trust to do a better job on immigration and border security. and abortion, he is underwater.

harris with a 19-point lead. it does point to the idea that they are very much looking at trying to peel off a few voters here and there and how they can boost. they've both got their bases locked up so it is down to those few you can swing. >> we were talking about it the other night and getting rfk junior and tulsi gabbard's announcement -- endorsement as well. he's broadening out from that base be at we are seeing it on some of the issue positions that he stated here this evening but he understands that his base is not going to be enough to carry the day in november. >> jonathan: what a jamaican of kamala harris' interview tonight's? >> it was safe. i think it was safe.

it was not a disaster. that's for sure. i think they were sitting down and they got pushed on a few issues, could more issues be pushed or there be some tightening up with governor walz on his position on his veteran experience and things like that but it was a safe interview. you compare what's going on now in the media today in a cycle with former president donald trump and what happened at the cemetery today with the veterans. any time have a candidate out that's talking, all operatives want candidates to say less so you are going to take a risk anytime a candidate is talking. they flip-flop more than cheap hotel mattresses. >> that's the best analogy i've heard all night. pete what did you make of the interview? >> the vice president is a study in political rhetoric. she said many times throughout the interview let me be clear. to me that really is a reaction of somebody who is not being

clear and has not been clear on many of these positions. this distinction that she tried to make between positions and values to me is a real nonsequitur. we can all agree that we want to the environment to be healthy and good. it's quite a different thing to say that you support the renewed deal, that you want no more gas powered vehicles by 2035, in the next ten years. those distinctions and those policy positions are extremely valid as we get into these next few weeks. >> jonathan: thank you for being here. new reports that legal immigrants here in california apparently trying to board school buses that were picking up elementary school students. later in the nightcap, kamala harris finally sat down as we've been saying her first real interview of this presidential campaign. how did she do in your mind's? what did you think of the interview? did she change your opinion of her for better or worse?

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>> the migrant crisis combined with the start of the new school year may have created a new issue for students and parents. in one district here in california. christina coleman is he alive to explain that story tonight. >> a migrant -- some migrants tried to board school buses two days in a row this week. at happened in the... district. one child told his mom the migrants were carrying backpacks

when this happened the district confirms the migrants were waiting at two different bus stops when this occurred appear no children were hurt but parents are still very worried. >> twenty illegal migrants tried to get on the bus at one of our bus stops. >> it's scary that these kids are put into the situation. >> we don't know if they have any criminal history or what their background is. >> some parents drove their kids to school today instead of letting them take the bus amid growing concern over the situation. >> at the end of the day we don't know could -- these migrants are illegal immigrants or aliens, could be human traffickers, and sex traffickers. what if they got on the bus and overpower the driver and then our kids are kidnapped, we don't know. >> a spokesperson for migrant advocacy group says the migrants

may have thought the school buses could transport them to a safe place. >> when they see a bus, the impulse might be this would take me to a much safer area. >> community leaders may hold a meeting to address the incident, also the local sheriffs department is investigating the situation and working with the district to try and keep these kids safe. >> interesting there's no video of this, given they presumably all have phones. >> one of the parents says they want to drive to get some of the video from the bus so they can see this actually happened. i think that would be very interesting and helpful for the investigation. >> jonathan: thank you so much. residents in the denver area are on high alert tonight as officials raise the alarm that members of venezuela's most new tory us gangs are operating in colorado. the fear of violence is prompting some people to pack up and move out.

>> that's right and this disturbing video is an example of why. watch this recording... showing a group of armed men carrying handguns and a rifle. the owner of the video says it was taken shortly before a shootout at the complex that left one person seriously injured and several vehicles riddled with bullets. and another clip, two men are seen forcing their way into that unit. some residents like the romero's say the fear of gang violence forced them to move out. >> every day will me come home we have to do this every time we go outside to take out the garbage. every time we try to go to bed at night, we have to keep it like this so nobody can kick in the door. >> they say the trouble started when a large number of migrants began moving in. the aurora mayor says they have pushed out management at three

apartment complexes and are likely extorting residence. he could not confirm reports the video is evidence of a violent venezuelan gang. >> and this is only several apartment complexes but are not going to surrender any part of the city to a criminal element. >> police won't connect the video to the gang, saying based on our initial work we believe report of tda influence are isolated but aurora is not alone for venezuela nationals including one with gang ties were just indicted last week for armed robbery in denver while the douglas county sheriff's office busted an auto theft ring where three migrants were arrested and -- since it... that welcomed over 42,000 migrants since 2022. >> jonathan: thank you so much. with us now, former inspector and fox news contributor, paul

morrow. we've seen these issues in new york as well where you have so much experience of course and in many cities across america. how big an issue is it with these gangs coming across the border, members of these gangs coming across the border and fanning out across the united states. >> this is where intelligence is so key. if we have 11 or 12 million migrants who have entered the country illegally and you only have 1 percent of that 12 million actually criminals, you've still imported 120,000 criminals that had not been here previously and that goes to the vetting. that's the real problem here, aside from the numbers which we all recognize are completely out of hand. the fact that we are unable to vent from a lot of these nations , specifically venezuela, and that's what i mean by intelligence. it was a prison gang.

these are hard characters. they got out of a prison, it was a big jailbreak down in venezuela. a lot of them are here, when duro doesn't want them back there. they are starting to establish footholds across the country and it's beginning to feel a lot to me like the lack of a better term, a golden era of the mafia where you had... they became so entrenched and it took diet kate -- decades to get them out. if we don't wake up and recognized at this very organized gang is setting themselves up in cities across this country, we will be in for a real rude awakening at some point. >> we had a local businessman here in la on the show around six months ago. he told me then, he's a colombian immigrant himself. he told me these are not your grandma's immigrants coming into the country. he knows the kind of people, he

was brought up with them. he said as you did. america needs to wake up. so let's say this 1 percent has gone in, how do we know handle it in law enforcement terms in the long term? >> that's the smart question. here's the answer from my seat here. having worked a lot of terrorism and all kinds of cases, you need a task force. this is an international level problem so you need the feds, you need state and the kind of intelligence you get at the border. you have to have all that synchronized be a you're going to need the manpower and the street know how you get from the local and state cops. muted -- you need a test force model and you need to bring big conspiracy cases... human trafficking cases and you have to take these guys in big groups and send a message that it won't be tolerated. there's a preference when you take illegals that say we don't

want to be responsible for their care and feeding forever. the bureaus of prisons across the country tended to default to big deportations once they convicted. normally that sounds like a very good policy. the problem is with our poorest border, and they are just going to come back up your all you are doing is putting them on the street for a couple of weeks. big groups of these guys, you arrest them and then you deport them and any nation in which they had status on their way to america has to take them back appeared venezuela doesn't want them, we will waive the transit through. that's where they go back to and it's no longer our problem. arrest them, deport them and keep them out. >> we shall see if that happens. thank you so fascinated stalked he was always peer could thank you so much, have a good night. coming up as the search for a long-term cease-fire goes on in

the middle east, israel agrees to a brief paws in fighting in gaza to allow health officials to administer polio vaccines for children. israel's ambassador to the united nations joins us live next.

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minister, if you can't do this we will get inside and we will bring them back ourselves. and bring them home! >> an american is one of the more than 100 -- abductees... >> we are working day and night and we will never stop. >> talks over a deal between israel and hamas are ongoing. officials say they will keep pushing until they get it across the line. >> it's in the nitty-gritty and that is a positive sign of progress but at the end of the day, nothing is done until it's done. >> complicate and efforts the major operation israel launched in the west bank. a second day of raids, the idf says it killed five more militants. the un says the operation is deeply concerning and is fuelling an already explosive situation. palestinians there agree.

>> that they bulldoze streets, destroyed parts of houses. they bombed places of worship which affected us the most and made us cry. >> there is expected to be a series of pauses in the fighting starting on sunday after the reemergence of polio there for the first time in 25 years. both israel and come -- and hamas have agreed to let the un in and vaccinate kids who call gaza home. >> thank you jeff. we are honoured to have with us israel's newly installed ambassador to the united nations mr ambassador, your second trip to the un as israel's ambassador there, we congratulate you on that and thank thank you for being here. want to ask you first, these humanitarian pauses announced today, it seems that could be interpreted as a goodwill gesture on israel's part, does it also open a window where the

longer-term cease-fire talks could be pushed forward more or are those things separate in your view? >> thank you for having me. i would not make that linkage because the hamas leadership don't really care about the well-being of the people in gaza as you mentioned earlier, recorded with the who and unicef vaccination for the people of gaza. 98 percent of the population is already vaccinated but we cooperate and we didn't agree for a cease-fire, we built a mechanism that will allow those ngos to provide the vaccinations safely starting september 1st. it bothers me that no one speaks about the humanitarian situation of the hostages. today the un, they spoke about the polio vaccination but we have israeli kids, will they be vaccinated also with the efforts? i don't believe anyone in the un cares about them.

>> talking of the hostages, if and when, i'm assuming you would insist on when all those hostages are home in israel, and wherever else they are from around the world. there are americans... when those hostages are out of gaza, is the war over? >> we didn't want this war. we have no desire to send our boys and girls to fight in gaza and the... to bring back the hostages and eradicate hamas. the hostages, 107 are still in captivity and tomorrow morning, all of them would be released i think we can speak about the end of the war and the day after but hamas, they don't care about the hostages, don't care about the people in gaza. they care about survival and these people... if i try to convince them and

say... >> there is a lot of frustration obviously in israel, a lot of anger over the plight of the hostages over the prosecution of the war in some ways. how would you rate the job the prime minister netanyahu has done? >> we know it's not easy, it's almost a year. we wanted a fast outcome but it doesn't work that way because we manoeuvred in very populated areas. we work slowly. we've given notice for the population to move before we take actions. it takes time or can i think we will be patients. the outcome is important. hamas will not be in gaza after the war. people will appreciate it. if they will stay in power it would not be accepted.

>> how do you feel returning to the un? it's not a place that has always been welcoming for an israeli ambassador. >> it wasn't easy doing my first term but now it's absurd to. i entered my position of week ago and in the three sessions we had in the security council last week about israel. it's an obsession about israel. they ignore the facts but we are determined to finish the job, to finish hamas, bring the hostages home and then we will deal with the un an and auditor talked he was always, thank you very much >> and turn the page on the last decade of what i believe has been contrary to where the spirit of our country really lies. >> of course the last three not have years has been part of your

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>> we are back with the nightcap crew. tonight's topic, of the interview. kamala harris sat down for her first real interview of this presidential campaign. how did she do? did she change her opinion of her for better or worse? mr griff jenkins, what say you? >> if the goal was to get out of this without any major gaps, box checked but there's a missed opportunity for her to really tell the american people what she is passionate about and what does she care about, what's win to be the bedrock issues of a future harris administration, she didn't do that and i think there's going to be a lot left to press her own in the next interviews over the fact that she didn't really give any explanations to her numerous policy changes in the signature line of my values have changed, probably not enough to cut it.

>> you are waiting to interview her whenever she's ready. >> i agree with him. i don't think it was a minded changing interview. i was distracted by the fact she kept looking down and not at the interviewer a lot. i didn't like her sitting behind a table so i was distracted by those things even more than by what she was saying. >> it was okay p. or she didn't change my mind, your answers were a little frigid and generic. i want to see her in a live interview. >> it would've been better as a live interview but more dangerous. >> apparently the interview went for over an hour and we only got about a half-hour tape so what's on the cutting room for would be really interesting to see. >> jonathan: we asked you what you think, whether it would change your opinion of her pure cheese trying to reach out to fox news voters, bad news for the vp. you better or worse on ask, 3 percent said it was better now and instagram it was 2 percent.

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