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>> it's 9:00. happy tuesday one and all. i'm mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. and all. i'm mark dolan and this is gb news tonight . fears of an is gb news tonight. fears of an escalation of the israel hamas war grow as the us weighs up deploying non—combat troops to the region and iran warns the bombing of gaza must stop immediately. so are we hurtling towards world war iii? former british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, gives his take shortly . meanwhile, his take shortly. meanwhile, after sending billions to ukraine, can britain afford to support israel? and should ordinary brits be urged to take in refugees from the conflict ? in refugees from the conflict? i'll get stuck into that with my panel of top pundits tonight. esther mcvey, derek lord and rebecca reid . in my big opinion rebecca reid. in my big opinion tonight, they were called right wing. they were called covid deniers , and they were called deniers, and they were called granny killers . but those who granny killers. but those who called out the madness of lockdowns, for which we're now paying lockdowns, for which we're now paying a huge price were right
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all along. i'll be responding to shock new revelations from the ongoing covid inquiry about which the rest of the media have been silent . also coming up, as been silent. also coming up, as biological males who identify as women are allowed to participate in the brutal martial art of jujitsu against females. could this trans madness see a woman die in the ring? olympian turned women's rights champion sharron davies dives into that one. plus, he's been cleared of all charges. the guy's innocent , but charges. the guy's innocent, but the woke mob are still trying to destroy me. legendary actor kevin spacey this week cancelling his comeback film from the cinema gb news superstar nana akua makes the case for the oscar winner's redemption and she tackles harry and meghan's late missed eco hypocnsy. and meghan's late missed eco hypocrisy . you won't believe it. hypocrisy. you won't believe it. she's with us shortly. and as it's revealed, a quarter of brits are now inked are visible tattoos in the workplace unprofessional . kerry katona unprofessional. kerry katona takes on kim woodburn in the
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clash . as always, you'll get a clash. as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. and one of britain's top journalist, tom bower, is uncancelled. later in the show, stand for by an action packed two hours. prepare to be shocked by my big opinion. that's in two minutes after the news and polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. well, let's bnng evening to you. well, let's bring you some more on that breaking news we brought to you an hour ago. so officials in gaza saying at least 300 people have been killed and 200 more have been killed and 200 more have been killed and 200 more have been injured in an attack on a hospital in gaza city where thousands were seeking shelter. palestinian officials are saying it was caused by an israeli airstrike, but within the last ten minutes, israeli intelligence services have said they believe it was a failed hamas rocket attack on israel . hamas rocket attack on israel. and they're blaming the palestinian islamic jihad. there saying from the analysis of the
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idf's operational systems, an enemy rocket barrage was launched towards israel , which launched towards israel, which passed in the vicinity of the hospital when it was hit . well, hospital when it was hit. well, the al al—arab hospital is currently engulfed in flames. survivors as we can see from pictures on tv, if you're watching on screen , are being watching on screen, are being pulled out and transferred to nearby hospitals. the world health organisation has issued a statement condemning the explosion , calling it explosion, calling it unprecedented . and the unprecedented. and the palestinian president has declared three days of mourning . declared three days of mourning. and in response, palestinians have been clashing with security forces in ramallah in the west bank. there are also reports coming to us of the israeli embassy in jordan being breached in protest after the explosion . in protest after the explosion. well, the israeli ambassador to the uk, tzipi hotovely, responded to the news of the hospital attack a short time ago on gb news. >> this is a war that hamas started from this horrible massacre that happened in october 7th. i think everyone is
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still shocked in this country, in israel and around the world from the atrocities were exposed that hamas did. and as we speak, there are still 199 israelis, including children and holocaust survivors, grandparents that are kept hostage in hamas hands. i want to check what happened, but i'm sure and i can guarantee you, we never target civilians . you, we never target civilians. >> well, a british israeli teenager who's been missing since last weekend's terror attacks by hamas has been confirmed dead today , 13 year confirmed dead today, 13 year old yahel and her mother, lianne, were both killed when gunmen attacked their kibbutz last weekend. her sister, noya and their father, eli, are still missing . and here the prime missing. and here the prime minister has called for the immediate release of hostages taken by hamas . now news away taken by hamas. now news away from israel . the return of from israel. the return of islamist terrorism poses a threat to all european nations. that's according to the french president, emmanuel macron . his
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president, emmanuel macron. his comments came a day after two swedish football fans were shot deadin swedish football fans were shot dead in a terrorist attack in brussels before belgium's euro 2024 qualifier against sweden . 2024 qualifier against sweden. belgium's police say the suspect , who identified himself online as being a member of islamic state shortly after the attack was killed this morning, state shortly after the attack was killed this morning , the was killed this morning, the scottish first minister is pledging £300 million to cut nhs waiting lists in scotland. humza humza yousaf told the snp conference in aberdeen it could reduce waiting lists by 100,000 patients by 2026. he also pledged to freeze council tax in scotland next year . the first scotland next year. the first minister made a comment about the israel conflict as well today, saying that with family in gaza, he calls on the international community to set up a refugee program for those fleeing from the gaza strip . and fleeing from the gaza strip. and in news here at home, yellow weather warnings for wind and rain will be in place from tomorrow. and the arrival of
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storm babette is being warned about. it's the second named storm of the season and it'll last until saturday. the met office is talking about potential flooding, power cuts and travel disruption and that weather warning covering much of scotland. eastern part of northern ireland and the north and east of england on tv , and east of england on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tunein app. this is gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> it's been a good week to hide away bad news, but not on my watch. spread this one far and wide, folks . professor mark wide, folks. professor mark woolhouse, a leading virus expert who advised the government during the covid pandemic . do you remember the pandemic. do you remember the pandemic. do you remember the pandemic ? those were the days. pandemic? those were the days. well, he has slammed the three national lockdowns as a failure of public health policy . see, of public health policy. see, for this, i'm happy to award him tonight's no sherlock award, but at least he's being honest.
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woolhouse clearly knows sheep. he said the decision to shut the country down, which saw the borrowing of half £1 trillion. the collapse of thousands of businesses, kids kept out of school, and the creation of a waiting list of 7.6 million people in the nhs was disproportionate , unsustainable. disproportionate, unsustainable. and here's the kicker not as effective as was being claimed. so whilst people who worried about the impact of this chinese communist party inspired experiment to stop a virus were labelled right wing covid deniers or granny killers in fact, they've been proved right . fact, they've been proved right. but woolhouse told the covid inquiry, which i fear is going to be a bigger stitch up than a property deal with donald trump that alternatives to lockdown were not developed and delivered with sufficient urgency. in 2020. you can say that again, he told them he couldn't find any good analysis that showed stay at home orders made a difference. he also said that this draconian, draconian
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economy destroying policy should have been a last resort . except, have been a last resort. except, of course, it wasn't with politicians and government scientists waving their willies around and becoming national rock stars. with this insane decision to tell healthy people not to leave the house, woolhouse said he became very, very frustrated with sage and that if there had been a separate scientific committee gathering evidence on the harms of lockdowns , it could have of lockdowns, it could have influenced decisions as we said it at the time. but we were the bad people. remember meanwhile, last month the uk health security agency, who i think we can agree are not a bunch of swivel eyed nutjob conspiracy theorists tweeting from their mother's bedroom, quietly released a review which found that the evidence base for the effectiveness of social distancing, masking and lockdowns was weak. i can't believe it. even those border restrictions which impacted businesses and families look to have failed. now i'm angry about
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this, and here's why you should be, too, because most of our current problems are down to this failed policy . the this failed policy. the constraints on the government to spend money on our health service , schools and policing is service, schools and policing is down to this failed policy . we down to this failed policy. we inflation the eye—watering national debt, the cost of living and higher interest rates are down to this failed policy. damaged kids, a legacy of domestic abuse , a mental health domestic abuse, a mental health tsunami crumbling public services, an nhs waiting list longer than a night out with keith richards. it's all down to this failed policy . a work shy this failed policy. a work shy nafion this failed policy. a work shy nation with productivity through the floor is down to this failed policy as civil servants and pubuc policy as civil servants and public sector employees insist on working from home where they can do zoom meetings in their pyjamas, catch up on missed episodes of loose women and crack open their first bottle of san miguel at four in the afternoon as they peruse their final emails of the day, scientists who had precious,
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precious little evidence to justify this wild experiment and took control of the country and smashed it into a brick wall when future generations look at what we were dealing with, a potentially nasty but predominantly mild seasonal respiratory virus and one non—fatal to most, they'll have just one question what the hell were we thinking? never again . were we thinking? never again. now, what's your reaction ? mark now, what's your reaction? mark at gb news dot com. let's get the views of former cabinet minister and gb news star esther mcvey back anchor and visiting professor derek laud and author and journalist rebecca reid. what's your reaction to this bombshell from this top medic? woolhouse many of us had thought this for some time and actually we had a pandemic preparedness strategy in 2011, which was not for lockdowns. >> 27 eu countries had pandemic plans in place, not for
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lockdowns. and they were published in the european union disease and control in 2020. and then three weeks later , italy then three weeks later, italy went into lockdown . so we ripped went into lockdown. so we ripped up our plans , our framework, our up our plans, our framework, our ethical plans, our legal structures to go into lockdown . structures to go into lockdown. and the thing that upset me the most was the censorship that came with it. so if you query read, why are we doing this ? read, why are we doing this? what it's about? why have we pred what it's about? why have we ripped up all of our plans to go into an untested lockdown? you were . vilified in one way or were. vilified in one way or another. you were a bad person. i was a bad person. and i remember i got the first lockdown because nobody knew what it was. the march to june, nobody. >> three weeks to flatten the curve. that one. >> after that, when we knew a little bit more who was vulnerable and we've said vulnerable and we've always said protect vulnerable protect the vulnerable. everybody protect. everybody said that, protect. but we more about it, but when we knew more about it, you need these you did not need these lockdowns. you so rightly lockdowns. and as you so rightly said, all of the things that
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have come to pass from that poverty , me, mental health, poverty, me, mental health, health issues , what happened to health issues, what happened to young children ? i said the young children? i said the domestic abuse businesses, the economy , the whole thing stems economy, the whole thing stems from two years of closing down the world. as you rightly said , the world. as you rightly said, an experiment and the costs have been significant . been significant. >> of course, the experts now changing their tune. rebecca but this won't be reported in many quarters because there's a whole generation of journalists and politicians who are very attached to this narrative that we had to lock down. >> currently, the lead story on sky, the guardian, the telegraph , and four other papers. well, i'm pleased to suggest that it's not on the mainstream media is absolutely but what absolutely untrue. but what about excuse me, about what about the excuse me, what about the health security agencies report a month ago that suggested there was no evidence also covered in the mainstream media? will you, i media? no, i will tell you, i googled it today. >> the place i could find >> the only place i could find it unherd. will totally it was unherd. i will totally admit about admit that gb news talked about it talked about it it earlier and talked about it in depth, but in more depth, but it is absolutely being covered. >> i would like to
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>> what i what i would like to point out is that this isn't like a silver bullet of like a silver bullet finding of today, all the experts today, that now all the experts agree. have agree. different experts have said i not said different things. i am not a lockdown person. i didn't like it. end of my 20s to it. i lost the end of my 20s to it. i lost the end of my 20s to it. it wasn't fun. i don't want to into lockdown again. to go into lockdown ever again. however, different professor however, a different professor has said. professor stephen, i can't is can't remember his surname is now the now also said today in the inquiry we into inquiry that had we gone into lockdown on of march lockdown on the 9th of march rather than the 23rd of march, that we have, we go. rather than the 23rd of march, that �*old have, we go. rather than the 23rd of march, that �*old chestnut. 3, we go. rather than the 23rd of march, that �*old chestnut. you we go. rather than the 23rd of march, that �*old chestnut. you can't�* go. that old chestnut. you can't realistically say that the decision has been made that it was a bad idea. full stop. different experts think that's exactly what i'm saying. >> i'm saying it on national television. >> here's my question. whose fault is it? who do you blame? >> boris johnson for >> i blame boris johnson for being and caving being weak willed and caving in to and going his to sage and going against his libertarian conservative principles . going libertarian conservative principles. going against principles. i'm going against the advisers who most certainly because they were power, because they were in power, however, and abetted by however, aided and abetted by keir starmer, 100 tory backbenchers tried to stop the third national lockdown. i'm assuming you were one of i was one of them. and with with labour's votes, that lockdown could have been stopped. >> but is it exactly?
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>> but how is it exactly? >> but how is it exactly? >> that feels like a very tangential blaming labour tangential way of blaming labour for something were for something the tories were responsible for. >> well, labour could have. labour could have stopped it with the support of 100 hurdles. >> the first two labour >> so the first two labour purely were never in, purely on tour were never in, they were never the anti they were never in the anti lobby. they were never in the anti lob trust they were. >> trust me, they were. >> trust me, they were. >> let's talk about the >> but let's talk about the people actually people who were actually in charge ultimately boris johnson. >> it's your if, if the >> but if it's your if, if the only man in room. only man in the room. >> well your halfway house >> well sorry your halfway house i'm not quite so sure as both of you are on this. >> and i think that there couldn't have been a worse time to be prime minister and having to be prime minister and having to take that decision. what i would say, however, apologies, derek , you're having an issue derek, you're having an issue with your mic, but apparently it's working again. >> so carry on. >> so carry on. >> marvellous. am sure >> marvellous. what i am sure about , however, is that facts about, however, is that facts matter more than opinion. this has to be a scientific it was a frightening moment of time and hundreds of thousands of people were losing their lives around
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the world and the modelling that i've seen clearly suggests that had we locked down a week earlier to have we still got a problem? >> derek we've still got a problem. the microphone, as you correctly identified, the bottom line is why are we talking about this today? rebecca we're talking we have this today? rebecca we're talking inflation. we have rampant inflation. >> question that i >> well, it's a question that i asked national debt. >> we've got deficit >> we've got a deficit where more in. more goes out than comes in. >> what would you like us to do about destroyed. about it is destroyed. what would to do? would you like us to do? i would. i don't like lockdowns. i'd you like? >> a television so that we make sure this never happens again? >> never going to happen again. >> nobody will put with >> nobody will ever put up with that i'm not sure that ever again. i'm not so sure i'm so sure. that ever again. i'm not so sure i'mwell,o sure. that ever again. i'm not so sure i'm well, tellre. that ever again. i'm not so sure i'm well, tell us, esther. >> well, tell us, esther. >> well, tell us, esther. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the reason w who are planning a pandemic treaty. a global pandemic treaty. >> you've >> exactly. they are. and you've got health got the international health regulations at the regulations going through at the moment. so sure. so moment. so i'm not so sure. so actually in this country, what people are calling now at people are calling for now at least mps are, people are calling for now at le to. mps are, people are calling for now at le to look mps are, people are calling for now at le to look at mps are, people are calling for now at le to look at the mps are, people are calling for now at le to look at the health re, is to look at the public health act, actually all of these act, which actually all of these draconian brought draconian measures were brought in coronavirus draconian measures were brought in through coronavirus draconian measures were brought in through the)ronavirus draconian measures were brought in through the contingency act, not through the contingency planning were
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planning act. what they were brought the 1984 brought through is in the 1984 pubuc brought through is in the 1984 public health act, and want public health act, and we want that change made. you can't that change made. so you can't use legislation. use secondary legislation. so and that's what happened. so mps weren't around things weren't voted and that's what we want voted on and that's what we want change that much is taken change that much more is taken into consideration that into consideration now that you've as said, this awful you've seen as said, this awful experiment we've all gone experiment that we've all gone through this years through of this two years of lockdown now seeing lockdown and we're now seeing the consequence, you cannot now deny the consequences of what's happened. i do all these i'm not pro it. >> i completely agree with you that can't we can't change that we can't we can't change what already happened. >> and i it a little bit >> and i find it a little bit frustrating when we talk about >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard'hen we talk about >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard .en we talk about >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard . butve talk about >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard . but when( about >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard . but when we out >> and i find it a little bit frustfonnard . but when we when we how fonnard. but when we when we talk about it over and over and over again, but we don't seem to hold government were in hold the government who were in charge for charge of it, responsible for it, want to blame it, and people want to blame some had a clipboard some guy who had a clipboard rather than and the science wasn't didn't wasn't consistent. it didn't agree . and also, i agree on all points. and also, i can't believe saying can't believe i'm saying this, but think the but i do genuinely think the people charge were trying to people in charge were trying to make decision they make the best decision they could time. i don't think could at the time. i don't think bofis could at the time. i don't think boris to boris johnson wanted to see people crying and miserable and lonely and having mental health.
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i he was craving lonely and having mental health. i talked he was craving lonely and having mental health. i talked aboutias craving lonely and having mental health. i talked aboutias (censorship that talked about the censorship that talked about the censorship that that most media that happened that most media didn't want to talk about, and you couldn't say anything against it othennise you were vilified. >> i know i was. was one of those. >> and also another reason why we talk about it is because, a, it's you my viewers and it's why you my viewers and listeners are struggling so much, is much, why the economy is screwed, can't get a gp screwed, why you can't get a gp appointment you're waiting appointment while you're waiting for replacement. it's for that hip replacement. it's a legacy of that. and i disagree with rebecca. she might have found hidden articles in found some hidden articles in the and on sky . the guardian and on sky. >> no, sorry. that's >> no, i'm sorry. that's actually annoying . don't actually really annoying. don't do is on the front do that. that is on the front page. is. is not. page. it is. it is not. >> i'm on the front of the >> i'm on the front page of the guardian and i will send you guardian now and i will send you a link if you google. >> if you covid, it comes up. >> you didn't have it for two years. absolutely not. years. rebecca absolutely not. >> derek hasn't got a microphone. we're going to fix that up. that and we're going to turn up. rebecca that deliberately? >> rebecca did lots more to come. >> moving on. still to come, as it's revealed, a quarter of brits are now inked are visible tattoos workplace. um tattoos in the workplace. um professional. two darlings of celebrity television, kerry katona and kim woodburn battle
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it out in the clash . but next, it out in the clash. but next, fears of an escalation of the israel—hamas war grow as the us weighs up deploying non combat troops to the region . and iran troops to the region. and iran warns the bombing of gaza must stop immediately . so are we stop immediately. so are we hurtling towards . world war hurtling towards. world war three or can tensions be eased? we'll speak to former british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. he's
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days from three on . gb news
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days from three on. gb news well, the cat is out of the bag. >> the covid inquiry matters because the country is broke as a result of the experiment of lockdowns . that's my view. lockdowns. that's my view. that's my big opinion. what do you think? market news.com . this you think? market news.com. this from adrian mark. lockdowns saved lives. i worked in the nhs throughout the lockdown, but the people wouldn't have it happen again. but what if we get a really nasty variant? mark richard says, where are the self self—righteous lockdown lemmings now? i wouldn't hold your breath for an apology to the people that dared to question the lockdown lemming narrative. next to come are climate and carbon control lockdowns . thanks for control lockdowns. thanks for that. keep those emails coming. mark at gbnews.com. now the clash and nana akua. coming up this hour. but first, breaking tonight is devastating news that at least 300 people are reported to have died in what some fear was an israeli airstrike on a hospital in gaza . the
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hospital in gaza. the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, declared three days of mourning following the explosion, but israeli forces have denied involvement, saying explosion was caused by a misfired palestinian rocket . but misfired palestinian rocket. but it comes as the us is reportedly weighing up sending 2000 non combat troops to support israel whilst iran has chillingly warned of pre—emptive strikes if the israelis launch a ground offensive on gaza. it comes as the us has sent two aircraft carriers to the region while the iran backed lebanese group hezbollah has been exchanging fire with israel across the border in recent days . well, border in recent days. well, it's all kicking off. are we hurtling towards world war iii? and where does that leave the uk's involvement ? joining me now uk's involvement? joining me now is military mastermind and former british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford . lieutenant colonel, crawford. lieutenant colonel, thank you so much for joining us. simple question for you to
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start. what is the worst thing that can happen? >> oh, in terms of warfare, the worst thing that can happen is nuclear exchange or nuclear release . release. >> but that's highly unlikely to happenin >> but that's highly unlikely to happen in the circumstances that face us at the moment. in the middle east. but it's always at the back of everybody's mind. but nuclear weapons stop other countries using nuclear weapons. i think that's quite clear . so i think that's quite clear. so the worst thing that can happen at the moment with the current situation in gaza is that the war spreads and becomes a global one. i think that's highly unlikely at the moment, but you never know how things are going to develop . to develop. >> and are iran the real enemy, given their support for terrorists in the region, could it get to the point where america needs to deal directly with iran ? with iran? >> well, i've written and spoken for a long time saying that at some point the us is to going
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have to deal with iran . iran is have to deal with iran. iran is the enemy of the us and its allies and of israel and of various other countries through sponsoring terrorism and supplying arms to groups like hezbollah and others . i think hezbollah and others. i think that iran would not wish to enter into direct confronting action with the usa and would try to avoid it. but you know, we've got the us fleet sailing into the eastern mediterranean and it only takes one hothead in hezbollah to aim a ship killing missile at the us fleet and all the bets are off because that missile will undoubtedly have been supplied by iran. >> is the uk still in a position where it would follow the us into a war in the middle east? >> well, i think we've always pnded >> well, i think we've always prided ourselves or are like to think of ourselves as being the us's closest and most consistent ally and to a certain extent
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we've already done so because rishi sunak has ordered two royal fleet auxiliary ships which are an accessory to the royal navy into the region to support whatever operations come their way. they're not warships per se. one of them is a logistics supply ship. the other is can be used as a temporary hospital . but they have uploaded hospital. but they have uploaded about 100 royal marines , some about 100 royal marines, some helicopters and i've got no doubt that they have some of our special forces on board as well. and also, we must remember , and also, we must remember, mark, that we have important bases in cyprus, which isn't that far away from israel . so that far away from israel. so we're well placed to support the us and our other allies. if push comes to shove . comes to shove. >> lieutenant colonel, i don't wish to disrespect american to, but is the cognitive health of joe biden a concern as this crisis deepens , as well? crisis deepens, as well? >> i think the answer to that is
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undoubtedly yes . but one hopes undoubtedly yes. but one hopes that he is surrounded by the right sort of people who can help him make his decisions and help him make his decisions and help him make his decisions and help him with his pronouncements and also look after his wellbeing . he does look slightly wellbeing. he does look slightly tottery in his older age and, you know, i'm not as young as i used to be either. so there is concern about that. but i think there might be even greater concern he be replaced at concern should he be replaced at in the presidential elections next year by a sort of revanchist donald trump , which revanchist donald trump, which would bring problems all of its own to the scenario ? own to the scenario? >> and lieutenant colonel, finally, why is this conflict an issue and a problem for my viewers and listeners? why does it matter to britain ? why it matter to britain? why >> well, i would like to think that it matters because britain, generally speaking , is a force generally speaking, is a force for good in the world. and what is happening in the middle east,
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in gaza to particularly innocent civilians on both sides of the divide. if you like, is something that we would not want to tolerate. and so we should go as far as we can in every direction to try and bring this to a halt. and make sure that the support and supply and assistance gets through to those who require it the most . and i who require it the most. and i think that's a sort of duty that the british public would wish to take on board, a privilege to have you on the program, sir, and may i salute you and thank you for your service to this country. >> former british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, thank you . coming up, crawford, thank you. coming up, he's been cleared of all charges is, but the woke mob are still trying to destroy legendary actor kevin spacey this week, cancelling his comeback film from the cinema . gb news from the cinema. gb news superstar nana akua makes the case for the oscar winner's redemption and she tackles harry and meghan's latest eco hypocrisy. you won't believe the story, but next up in the clash,
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as it's revealed, a quarter of brits are now inked are visible tattoos in the workplace unprofessional? and frankly , our unprofessional? and frankly, our tattoos come as muck. kerry katona takes on kim woodburn to classy ladies. they're with
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isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> world war iii. is it coming? i certainly hope it is not. andy
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says. mark. as a former soldier , says. mark. as a former soldier, ihope says. mark. as a former soldier, i hope we have another world war. it will reset the world. the weak will die, the strong prevail, and we will rebuild a better world. will look, andy, it's all about opinions. i certainly don't want another war. but you're entitled to share that view. regarding the covid inquiry, a top vice geologist has said that the lockdowns didn't work. there's a surprise . what about this from surprise. what about this from charles mark? what is your panellist, rebecca on about when she said this new covid response report was being covered by sky in the telegraph on the front pages? i had to check for myself. is of course not. myself. it is of course not. okay. keep those emails coming. gb news star nana akua and esteemed journalist tom bower coming up later tonight. but now the clash . and a quarter of the clash. and a quarter of brits have tattoos and 11% have visible ones , according to visible ones, according to a sensational yougov poll historically being inked made, landing a corporate job difficult . but landing a corporate job difficult. but in landing a corporate job
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difficult . but in recent years, difficult. but in recent years, body art has crept into the boardroom and become less taboo in the workplace case. in 2022, virgin atlantic became the first uk airline to allow crew members to uncover their tattoos on flights while several police forces have become more permissive as well. but what do you think are visible tattoos in the workplace unprofessional and are tattoos? hashtag common as muck. let me know your thoughts. you can email me. marc at gbnews.com. tweet us at gb views and do vote in the poll . but to and do vote in the poll. but to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome two queens of reality tv , kim woodburn, a very good friend of mine and the marvellous kerry katona. listen kim, great to have you back on the show. well, we'll leave holly willoughby to one side for the moment. what do you think about tattoos in workplace ? about tattoos in the workplace? >> as you know , look, you can >> as you know, look, you can see a pretty little tattoo on somebody's hand , a pretty little somebody's hand, a pretty little thing, and you think it's tattoo , but it's rather nice. but when you see these people tattooed
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from head to toe, you know, there's no flesh left. >> i love they've even had horns put in their head. they've got their tongue split out. who the hell is to going employ them? >> they're limiting their work, aren't they? who is a for instance? they'd never be able to be a barrister would they, with the cloak and the wig on tattooed . tattooed. >> you'd never see a doctor like that. >> you'd never see a doctor like that . you'd never i >> you'd never see a doctor like that. you'd never i mean, that. you'd never see. i mean, come on, it's unacceptable. >> and i do take your point. it was considered and maybe still is now, to be as common as muck to be absolutely tattooed up to toe. >> i think it is as common as muck . muck. >> well, kerry katona, you are pure class. you've been on my show before and it's always a pleasure . but what about those pleasure. but what about those tats ? aren't they a bit, you tats? aren't they a bit, you know , touched on they're know, touched on they're a little bit about unsophisticated . did you know what i think in the workforce , i think to the workforce, i think to a certain extent mrs. woodburn great to see you.
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>> absolutely love you to bits. i do think if someone's, you know, got horns growing out of their head and, you know, it's a bit over the top. absolutely. it's a bit too much . but bit over the top. absolutely. it's a bit too much. but i'll tell you something, i think it's just a lot more politicians. if i saw few more tattoos on them i >> yeah, well, i just wonder, maybe it would make them more approachable . maybe it would make them more approachable. kim no, but you see, most people that are covered from head to toe and tattoos are considered. >> extroverts aren't they? they know wherever they go , they're know wherever they go, they're going to be stared at and it makes me wonder, is there something lacking in their life, dean something lacking in their life, dear, when they're and i'll tell you something else . you something else. >> about two years ago, there was a man who was head to toe in a supermarket , was a man who was head to toe in a supermarket, and it's terrible. >> it was horrible . >> it was horrible. >> it was horrible. >> and a little child passed by with his mother and screamed his head off, thought, well, you do look frightening . look frightening. >> it's not acceptable. >> it's not acceptable. >> i'm not being funny, but i've seen lots of kids screaming at normal people without tattoos as well. >> if they're not.
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>> if they're not. >> well, what do you mean? when is fully covered in tattoos ? is fully covered in tattoos? >> big red things, earrings on, clips here. this little baby screamed the person looked horrific. can you didn't look and say i think as well sorry. >> i also think as well tattoos also represent you as a person. it's almost like saying you can't get hair highlights when you go into work. you can't wear your makeup . to me, i love art. your makeup. to me, i love art. i collect lots of art. my house is full of artwork. i'm really into it like this hair on my arm. this is this is my angel of my auntie who passed away. that's a reminder for me. it tells a story. this is about my bipolar and strength and reminder of me. i have my children tattooed on my wrist as a reminder never to self—harm. you know, there's so much more to a story than somebody just looking for attention . it's looking for attention. it's a reminder of where somebody comes from , of who they want to be. from, of who they want to be. and it's like saying to a man,
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you can't wear makeup . you can't you can't wear makeup. you can't i don't like the colour of your skin . skin. >> however, i just want to ask you, kerry, whether it's whether it's professional , you, kerry, whether it's whether it's professional, you you, kerry, whether it's whether it's professional , you know, the it's professional, you know, the idea of going to the bank and you sort of signing up for a mortgage and the mortgage adviser is covered in tats , you adviser is covered in tats, you know, he's got a knuckle one knuckle says hate the other knuckle says hate the other knuckle says hate the other knuckle says love. >> i'm sorry. that does not make him bad at his job. but does it inspire confidence ? inspire confidence? >> does it inspire confidence ? >> does it inspire confidence? you want him to be serious in a suit grown up with smart haircut like mine ? like mine? >> i'm not being funny, but let's look at all these politicians and all the government . not one of them have government. not one of them have got any . it's all fat brains got any. it's all fat brains between lot of them and not between the lot of them and not one of them a tattoo and one of them got a tattoo and i've got no confidence in them whatsoever. they had whatsoever. so maybe if they had a tattoos on them, a bit more tattoos on them, there's a more realistic, there's a bit more realistic, a bit more earth. maybe. bit more down to earth. maybe. then common fault will then i'll common fault will trust them a little bit more. but about how you look. but it's not about how you look. it's about how you are as a person from one inside a minute .
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person from one inside a minute. >> will you please? can i have a say ? you've had your say. just say? you've had your say. just be quiet . i say? you've had your say. just be quiet. i don't like say? you've had your say. just be quiet . i don't like tattoos. be quiet. i don't like tattoos. you're a pretty woman on those tattoos on your arm. look horrible. and you're a good looking woman. you look as common as . looking woman. you look as common as. sorry. i don't like your earrings, but that's kerry. >> kerry, let let, let, let kim speak. >> let kim speak, and you can come back. kim, finish. finish your your dressing down of kerry. we both agree kerry is a beautiful young woman. but you're not happy with the tattoos as kerry brought it up that nothing wrong with tattoos carries a very pretty girl. >> those tattoos on her arm look as common as muck . okay look, as as common as muck. okay look, as your opinion of me, kim is not my business. >> s you do not define me as a person. >> not . >> not. >> not. >> what do you want to do with my let kerry finish. >> kerry, you finish sentence. i've always wanted to say . i've always wanted to say. listen, kim, never finishes.
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>> she's worse than me. you're you're very shield on her arm. can she not remember their names? >> right. right it. >> right. right it. >> ladies, ladies, please. >> ladies, ladies, please. >> one at a time. i'll tell you what's common as muck is interrupting each other. kerry make your point, please . make your point, please. >> so i. i've even forgot what i was saying because i can't get a word in. i mean, i've got a big list on my left leg of all my exes that i've had crossed out. now that is a joke. but what i am saying is my your opinion of me , of how i look and what i put me, of how i look and what i put on my body does not define me as a person. it isn't my business. kerry finish anybody or what anybody else thinks of me, what i do with my body is my choice. yes, i thank you for calling me pretty. but this is from. from my sobriety. this is this is about how blessed i am and my and my compass, my moral compass. this is a reminder of my journey , my stretch marks and
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my journey, my stretch marks and my journey, my stretch marks and my body signatures from my babies . this tells my body signatures from my babies. this tells a my body signatures from my babies . this tells a story of my babies. this tells a story of my let me tell you, i, i agree with that. >> and i've kept my stretch marks as well. i'm very proud of them . kerry, can i just say them. kerry, can i just say i think your tats are lovely. i'm very with them . i know very happy with them. i know kim doesn't you're doesn't agree. kim, you're entitled not agree. now, entitled not to agree. now, listen, next you are listen, kim, next thing you are the of clean, okay? the the queen of clean, okay? the star of channel four's. how clean your house? do you clean is your house? do you think that people, not think that some people, not kerry, people kerry, but some people with loads tattoos, it give loads of tattoos, does it give the impression that they're a bit , a bit unclean ? bit dirty, a bit unclean? >> no, i'm not going to say that. but i don't know about that. but i don't know about that a bit. whiffy look , if you that a bit. whiffy look, if you want tattoos, you've got your body to have them. you can cover them up with your clothes. people want to be outside people that want to be outside their and put them their clothing and put them where they're noticed all over their it looks awful. it their face. it looks awful. it looks awful . well, i'm sorry. looks awful. well, i'm sorry. and you know , i mean, kerry, and you know, i mean, kerry, it's up to what she wants to do. i think we're a pretty girl like
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her. and she's a very gorgeous face when she lifts that arm up. i think. >> yeah, but but listen, what about the memories? >> isn't it as if you go >> aren't isn't it as if you go into an art gallery, you're a piece of art that you like. might not like me. piece of art that you like. might not like me . you know, i might not like me. you know, i might prefer that piece of artwork or that piece of artwork, and that's what it's all about . artwork, and that's what it's all about. it's all about individuality and non—judgemental . non—judgemental. >> all kerry sorry piece of art, dean >> all kerry sorry piece of art, dear. not suck on someone's face. you're you're going off. well, i love mine. >> i wonder now whether i could actually make a personal confession because i went to a tattoo parlour earlier today . tattoo parlour earlier today. and i do hope missus dolan doesn't mind, but i had this made . all right. and it's it made. all right. and it's it says kim with a big love heart on it. and then tomorrow , i'm on it. and then tomorrow, i'm going to get kerry on the other side to keep both of you happy . side to keep both of you happy. it won't make me right.
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>> dope . and you ruined your >> dope. and you ruined your hand. we love you, kim. >> listen, i tell you what. >> listen, i tell you what. >> i'm going to get visited in the dead of night by mr woodburn with a shotgun. most likely. i did want kim forever, but there wasn't enough space on my. on my hands. listen kim, brilliant to have you back the show very have you back on the show very much . much. >> those tattoos are shocking . >> those tattoos are shocking. >> those tattoos are shocking. >> okay. there you go. >> okay. there you go. >> listen, all right . don't like >> listen, all right. don't like your earrings either . your earrings either. >> kim. >> kim. >> kim. >> kim is not putting her badges. listen kerry, love badges. listen kerry, we love you don't change a thing. you loads. don't change a thing. you're fabulous. >> never. >> never. >> and so is kim. and it's all about opinions. your reaction, please. mark gbnews.com. what a what an. i mean, i think it's quite clear that i lost control of that piece of television. but what can you do? it's live telly in it, folks. welcome to gb news marcus on twitter says tattoos are not my personal cup of tea, but i prefer to judge a person by their actions, not by their appearance . sean tattoos appearance. sean says tattoos are disgusting , especially are disgusting, especially on the or down both arms the neck or right down both arms don't anyone
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don't understand why anyone would want be covered in ink. would want to be covered in ink. tony says. my surgeon had tattoos , but my tumour didn't tattoos, but my tumour didn't care do i. 20 years later . care nor do i. 20 years later. well, the verdict is in 65% agree that tattoos in the workplace are unprofessional . workplace are unprofessional. 35% say they are okay. coming up, after sending billions to ukraine, can britain afford to support israel? and should ordinary brits be urged to take in refugees from the conflict? my panel debate that later tonight. but next, he's been cleared of all charges , but the cleared of all charges, but the woke mob are still trying to destroy the legendary actor kevin spacey this week. cancel his comeback film from the cinema gb news superstar nana akua makes the case for the oscar winner's redemption . plus, oscar winner's redemption. plus, you'll love this. she tackles harry and meghan's latest incredible example of eco hypocnsy. incredible example of eco hypocrisy . you won't believe hypocrisy. you won't believe that story that is
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n ext next our tattoos in the workplace unprofessional. a massive reaction on email getting hundreds of emails. sally hi, mark. i think tattoos and piercings are a sign of mental illness and are a form of self—harm . james says. those two self—harm. james says. those two dreadful screaming women lower the tone of gb news to get them off. mark says james tattoos indicate gross stupidity and t i employed hundreds of men in several countries. not one had tattoos or piercings . pauline tattoos or piercings. pauline mark these two, kim and kerry, you said classy women. sorry, they're a pair of banshees. absolutely horrible . scraping absolutely horrible. scraping the bottom of the barrel. more for like your viewers and listeners will be appalled by their behaviour. well, look, it's all about opinions. keep yours coming, mark gbnews.com hollywood actor kevin spacey was given standing ovation at an given a standing ovation at an oxford university cancel culture lecture in his first public appearance since being cleared of assault earlier this of sexual assault earlier this yean of sexual assault earlier this year. former house of cards
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year. the former house of cards star performed a five minute scene william shakespeare's scene from william shakespeare's timon athens and was timon of athens and was introduced to the audience by conservative commentator douglas murray, who said shakespeare could teach us all about the scourge of cancel culture. this is the moment that kevin spacey lapped up the adoring crowd last night . night. for kevin spacey's public resurgence comes despite a west end theatre refusing to host his first film since his sex assault trial, ignoring the fact that he's been cleared of all charges . now, listen, folks , let me . now, listen, folks, let me talk about this for a second. this is the clown world that we now inhabit , this is the clown world that we now inhabit, but that kevin spacey, an oscar winning actor, house of cards, all those amazing films that he's made , amazing films that he's made, unfounded allegations , which unfounded allegations, which he's been completely found not guilty of and the guy's career
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is over. that is, in my view , a is over. that is, in my view, a double cancellation . delighted double cancellation. delighted to say that nana akua joins us now. nana, great to have you on the show. of course, we know that you are uncancelable , that you are uncancelable, aren't you? >> well , of course you can't >> well, of course you can't cancel me. i keep coming back. i'm unflushable to unflushable. >> i think that's harsh language, but i hear what you're saying. nana this is a really awful story and a tragedy for kevin spacey, who should be back on the big screen . on the big screen. >> well, actually, it's a bit silly , really. i mean, okay, so silly, really. i mean, okay, so this this cinema in leicester this is this cinema in leicester square. like prince square. it's like the prince charles cinema. actually charles cinema. it is actually just of this film just a premier of this film called . and they didn't called control. and they didn't realise he was in it. but when they found out he was in it, then decided that , oh well, then they decided that, oh well, no, we can't have premiere no, we can't have the premiere there here is there. but the irony here is he's not actually actually in the just voice . the film. it's just his voice. so the council film that his so the council of film that his voice is on because of some allegations that he was found to be innocent of . and this is be innocent of. and this is really absurd . for starters, who really absurd. for starters, who
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who allowed them to be judge and jury over this? and secondly, he's not been found guilty. so he's not been found guilty. so he's innocent. so why are they doing this? >> indeed . so and this is why >> indeed. so and this is why i think nana that wokeism must be destroyed. i know you absolutely go about that. you demolish woke madness every saturday and sunday from three till six. you are the enemy of the woke. i would argue it's greatest nemesis. and the reason it's got to be stopped is that these people are toxic bullies. they're destroying the film industry. they're destroying comedy. they're destroying the world . and the thing world of music. and the thing is, they don't just to is, they don't just want to cancel you. they want to destroy your life . your life. >> well, i mean, it wasn't long ago when we had the pandemic that nobody to the that nobody was to going the cinema. businesses cinema. and these businesses were all falling apart. and these working in these these people working in these places been for places would have been happy for anybody to show up and now they've a premiere. they're they've got a premiere. they're deciding that they're going to choose customers are choose who their customers are based on something based on what, on something where the person has been found innocent , even if the person where the person has been found innocent, even if the person has been found guilty . it's not for
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been found guilty. it's not for them to decide. we have a legal system and court system system and a court system that determines what the punishment will be. i think the sort of will be. and i think the sort of people kind of have gone way above their station. i mean, who are. won't work . are. it's the staff won't work. because if kevin spacey's voice is on the film, then they won't be. they should be thankful that they are working and that people are interested in film. and people like kevin spacey, who is an winning actor, by the an oscar winning actor, by the way, who has been found innocent of all charges that literally is no justification for their behaviour. i find it astonishing and actually they do. i mean , he and actually they do. i mean, he should come down on them like a tonne of bricks. it's not acceptable. indeed >> listen, i think people power will win out the minute that one of kevin spacey's films actually gets onto netflix or something else, the numbers will go through roof . you know that else, the numbers will go througdisney'oof . you know that else, the numbers will go througdisney , of . you know that else, the numbers will go througdisney , for you know that else, the numbers will go througdisney , for allj know that else, the numbers will go througdisney , for all theirw that else, the numbers will go througdisney , for all their woke: nana disney, for all their woke movies, bombing at the box office. now moving on to the duke and duchess of sussex have found themselves back the found themselves back in the headunes found themselves back in the headlines after being papped
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arriving at an exclusive canbbean arriving at an exclusive caribbean island after a gas guzzling private jet flight can you believe it? nana pictures from the mail online show harry and meghan on the tarmac after jetting to the tiny island in saint vincent and the grenadines , said to be where billionaires get away from millionaires . so get away from millionaires. so is this eco hypocrisy again ? is this eco hypocrisy again? >> well, i mean, they're at it again, aren't they ? to be again, aren't they? to be honest, i'm actually quite happy to see them holding hands, looking happy and not whinging . looking happy and not whinging. i'm fed up of listening to their whingeing . so finally they're whingeing. so finally they're holding hands. they whingeing. so finally they're holding hands . they look like holding hands. they look like they want to be around each other. that's great. but itjust other. that's great. but it just keeps coming back to that the keeps coming back to me that the moment that i'd had moment i decided that i'd had enough of the was when enough of the pair was when meghan and harry were banging on about climate change and explaining they're going explaining how they're going to offset we all offset their carbon. and we all know that carbon offsetting is sort a bit of a scam really. sort of a bit of a scam really. it's not real. and we know that . it's not real. and we know that. it's not real. and we know that. i think they've got like i think
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it's a bombardier jet that they have.i it's a bombardier jet that they have. i don't know whether it was perry's or was theirs or tyler perry's or whoever it was, this island whoever it was, but this island is have people like is known to have people like leonardo dicaprio coming to it. and they are on this and there they are on this private jet to going the exclusive island . and it's you exclusive island. and it's you know, i'm glad they're happy . know, i'm glad they're happy. it's nice to see them holding hands and being friendly. but frankly, hear frankly, i don't want to hear another them about another word from them about climate change. >> that's exactly right. they've got air, miles, than the got more air, miles, than the wright brothers. one for wright brothers. there's one for the nana briefly , if the teenagers. nana briefly, if you star alicia keys you can, pop star alicia keys has slammed online for has been slammed online for allegedly mocking the israeli terror attack victims with this social media post where she wears a jacket resembling palestinian colours while suggesting to her followers that she'll take up paragliding . do she'll take up paragliding. do you believe that she didn't mean anything by it? she said, oh, it's got nothing to do with israel. >> oh, you know, i love alicia keys. i'm very i don't know what she was thinking of there either . it's very, very misguided thing or she knew what she was doing. i want to think that she
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didn't know what she was doing. she's apologised later on. on social media. but frankly, you know, she she needs to be a bit more savvy than that. who would want to talk about how great paragliding is, having seen what has in israel and how has happened in israel and how these people, these terrorist hamas terrorists, managed to evade israeli defences to come through and murder over a thousand people. i mean , thousand people. i mean, innocent people who had nothing to do with any sort of thing, peaceful people, kids, children and grandchildren, baby . i mean, and grandchildren, baby. i mean, you know, i don't know what she was thinking. i'm really afraid that she it's she's being sincere , but i don't know why sincere, but i don't know why she was wearing those colours, mentioning paragliding . i hope mentioning paragliding. i hope she said what she said that she didn't realise. and it's got nothing to do with it. >> people nana people been >> people nana people have been cancelled they? cancelled for less haven't they? can't see you can't wait to see you on saturday the brilliant saturday at three. the brilliant nana coming up as nana akua coming up as biological males are allowed to participate in a dangerous martial art, could trans
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martial art, could this trans madness see a woman die in the ring ? sharon davies is coming up ring? sharon davies is coming up shortly . and can britain afford shortly. and can britain afford to support israel ? see you to support israel? see you surely . surely. >> alex deegan here with your latest weather updates from the met office for gb news. the storm system has yet to fully arrive, but once it does, it's going to drop a lot of rain between now the weekend between now and the weekend storm. babette is brewing down to the south—west, initially throwing up across the throwing rain up across the south during wednesday , but then south during wednesday, but then continuing to track northwards and kind of becoming slow moving on wednesday night over northern ireland, northern england and then parts of eastern then into parts of eastern scotland where have amber scotland where we have an amber warning have warning in place. but we have yellow a good yellow warnings across a good part of the uk. to date part of the uk. keep up to date with weather warnings part of the uk. keep up to date with the veather warnings part of the uk. keep up to date with the veatt office nings part of the uk. keep up to date with the veatt office website part of the uk. keep up to date with the veattoffice website . through the met office website. back to tonight and some rain across parts of northern ireland may a little heavy later in may turn a little heavy later in the night, but for many it will be night. the winds be a dry night. the winds continuing to strengthen and with cloud, it will with a lot more cloud, it will be a much milder night compared to recent across to recent nights across scotland, northern and scotland, northern england and northern ireland. and for many wednesday will still be a dry
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and a bright day. northern england. eastern good england. eastern england. good part staying dry, part of scotland staying dry, but showery rain but there'll be showery rain over the midlands, wales and southern that's going southern england. that's going to pep up as we through the to pep up as we go through the day. could turn pretty heavy day. it could turn pretty heavy dunng day. it could turn pretty heavy during evening across day. it could turn pretty heavy durisouth evening across day. it could turn pretty heavy durisouth of evening across day. it could turn pretty heavy durisouth of strengthening)ss the south of the strengthening gusty well . a wet and gusty wind as well. a wet and windy also working windy weather also working towards northern ireland. so some bursts likely here some heavy bursts likely here through wednesday evening . through wednesday evening. temperatures teens, temperatures into the teens, even high teens in the even the high teens in the south, but not feeling very warm with and windy weather with a wet and windy weather which night. and wednesday night. and then in thursday on thursday to thursday on thursday grinds to a halt across eastern scotland. hence have that amber hence why we have that amber warning in place here, but will still elsewhere still be heavy showers elsewhere as well
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lovely to have your company. >> now, don't forget, you can interact with the show, mark at cbnnews.com and you can have a look at my big opinion, which is now on twitter, courtesy of joe in our digital team , it's all
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in our digital team, it's all about a bombshell piece of news that lockdowns, according that covid lockdowns, according to a top sage expert, did not work. there's a surprise anyway, a very busy hour to come. let's get cracking . it is 10:00. i'm get cracking. it is 10:00. i'm mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. we've sent billions to ukraine and are already dealing with the never ending channel crisis . so can britain afford to crisis. so can britain afford to support israel in its fight with terrorism? and should ordinary brits open their homes to palestinian refugees ? that's the palestinian refugees? that's the big debate next with my top pundits this evening, big debate next with my top pundits this evening , esther pundits this evening, esther mcvey, derek lord rocking a brand new microphone and a very smart suit and a good friend of mine, rebecca reid . and with mine, rebecca reid. and with israel in explicably being attacked for defending itself is the terror group hamas winning the terror group hamas winning the pr battle and is their stance on israel causing permanent damage to the bbc? one of britain's best journalists, tom bower , gives his expert take tom bower, gives his expert take in uncanny . arnold live in the in uncanny. arnold live in the studio later . also this
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in uncanny. arnold live in the studio later. also this hour , as studio later. also this hour, as biological males are allowed to participate in the martial art of jiu jitsu against females , of jiu jitsu against females, could this trans madness see a woman die in the ring? women's rights advocate and british olympic hero sharon davies is here with her forensic assessment shortly . and as to assessment shortly. and as to people this week receive huge payouts for hurt feelings at work. is britain the snowflake capital of the world? my panel will share their own hurty feelings on that when they debate it in the media. buzz pop star madonna is marmite for some, but will madge take a gong when she's nominated in tonight's greatest britain and union jackass find out before the end of the show. plus, tomorrow's front pages. a really busy hour to come. can britain afford to support israel? that's next. first, the news and polly middlehurst out. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. well, let's tell
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you more about that hospital that has been bombed in gaza city tonight. we can tell you that in the last half hour, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has blamed what he calls barbaric terrorists for the attack on the hospital in gaza, which we believe has left about 500 people dead. israeli intelligence has also said it was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by the palestinian islamic jihad group. officials in gaza, though, blame israel for the airstrike and the palestinian president has declared three days of mourning . declared three days of mourning. thousands were seeking shelter at the baptist hospital in the centre of gaza city. it is now in flames. survivors are being pulled out of the hospital and transferred to nearby medical facilities . the world health facilities. the world health organisation has reacted tonight, condemning the explosion, calling it unprecedented . and in response, unprecedented. and in response, palestinians have been clashing with security forces in ramallah in the west bank. the israeli ambassador to the uk, tzipi
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hotovely , responded to the news hotovely, responded to the news of the hospital attack on gb news tonight. >> this is a war that hamas started from this horrible massacre that happened in october 7th. i think everyone is still shocked in this country, in israel and around the world, from the atrocities that were exposed that hamas did . and as exposed that hamas did. and as we speak, there are still 199 israelis, including children and holocaust survivors, grandparents that are kept hostage in hamas hands. i want to check what happened , but i'm to check what happened, but i'm sure and i can guarantee you, we never target civilians . never target civilians. >> well, also, the news today , a >> well, also, the news today, a british israeli teenager who's been missing since last weekend's terror attacks by hamas has been confirmed dead. 13 year old raquel yahel and her mother, lianne , were both killed mother, lianne, were both killed when gunmen attacked their kibbutz last weekend. her sister, noya, and their father, eli , are both still missing and
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eli, are both still missing and here the prime minister has called for the immediate release of hostages taken by hamas . in of hostages taken by hamas. in news away from israel, the return of islamist terrorism poses a threat to all european nations. that's according to the french president, emmanuel macron . today. his comments came macron. today. his comments came a day after two swedish football fans were shot dead in a terrorist attack in brussels before belgium's euro 2024 qualifier against sweden last night. belgium's police say the suspect who identified himself onune suspect who identified himself online immediately after the attack as a member of islamic state , was killed this morning . state, was killed this morning. and the scottish first minister is pledging £300 million to cut nhs waiting lists in scotland . nhs waiting lists in scotland. humza yousaf told the snp conference in aberdeen it could reduce waiting lists by 100,000 patients by 2026. he also pledged to freeze council tax in scotland next year and the first minister, who has family in
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gaza, is calling on the international to community set up a refugee program for those fleeing from the gaza strip . fleeing from the gaza strip. that's the news. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> my thanks to the brilliant polly middlehurst who returns in an hour's time. polly middlehurst who returns in an hour's time . tomorrow's news an hour's time. tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. let's kick off with a first look at tomorrow's front pages . and for tomorrow's front pages. and for now, we'll just start with the metro gaza hostage ordeal. bring my baby home. the mother of a hostage filmed by hamas begging for her life after being taken at a music festival has pleaded for the world to help bring her home. bring you more front pages shortly, but reacting to the big stories of the day, we have former cabinet minister gb news star estimates of banker and
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visiting professor derek lord and author and journalist rebecca reid. now, as the war between israel and hamas deepens britain has found itself swept up in the conflict with rishi sunak. yesterday confirming that at least six brits are missing and ten already dead . and with and ten already dead. and with israeli troops massed on the border and poised to invade gaza , the us today announced that 2000 american troops will be put on immediate standby for deployment out. but with the british government having already spent over £4 billion supporting ukraine, can we afford to support israel? what do you think, derek ? do you think, derek? >> well, in simple terms , we >> well, in simple terms, we obviously cannot. we've got a big national debt. it's obviously cannot. we've got a big national debt . it's costing big national debt. it's costing us about £9 billion a day to service that debt. the projections are that we will not 9 million, £9 million, nine nine. yeah, that's right. the i'm thinking inflation is bad, but not that bad. yes. not yet .
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but not that bad. yes. not yet. but i think that the projections are that we will not get out of the national debt crisis until about 2057 or something of that kind rishi sunak this week pledged . about £4.2 billion to pledged. about £4.2 billion to israel in terms of aid . it is israel in terms of aid. it is clearly not sustainable, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to do it because we've actually got a government that actually got a government that actually is the government of pubuc actually is the government of public spending and they don't seem to mind how much of our money they spend on either overseas aid or other or other pubuc overseas aid or other or other public bodies. do you support the decision by rishi sunak to keep that aid percentage lower than it was before the pandemic ? than it was before the pandemic? well, what the conservative party did under david cameron was that they used that overseas aid to decontaminate date the conservative party brand , right. conservative party brand, right. >> and so as a pr exercise , pr
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>> and so as a pr exercise, pr exercise, and it still remains important to them . okay. now, important to them. okay. now, rebecca, what do you think? can britain afford to support israel? >> i mean, i'm not i'm not so big on the numbers , but i don't big on the numbers, but i don't really care if we can afford to or not. we are part of the problem , part of reason that problem, part of the reason that the situation is because the situation exists is because of the way that we handled things first world things after the first world war. world war. sorry things after the first world wa involved world war. sorry things after the first world wa involved ourselves. war. sorry things after the first world wa involved ourselves. wa didn'ty we involved ourselves. we didn't do job. neither did do a brilliant job. neither did america, but we were instrumental in this problem. and of with a lot and that's true of us with a lot of countries . but this is true of countries. but this is true in who live in like some people who live lifetime. am i'm horrified lifetime. and i am i'm horrified by everything on both sides. absolutely. but i think we have a commitment and a real commitment and a relationship with israel. and i think also that they are a people whose are very people whose values are very augned people whose values are very aligned us. are people aligned with us. they are people who great to. so i who we owe a great deal to. so i think have to find a way to think we have to find a way to help in an ideal world, it would be sort out be better to try and sort out peace the middle east would peace in the middle east would be lovely. it's a stupid thing to because it's so obvious. to say because it's so obvious. in ideal it'd better in an ideal world it'd be better to to solve the to be able to solve the situation having to situation without having to bnng situation without having to
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bring because this situation without having to brag because this situation without having to bra place because this situation without having to bra place these because this situation without having to bra place these peoplelse this situation without having to bra place these people live.|is is a place these people live. it's their home. but we have to do helped do something because we helped create this problem. >> people an >> well, bring people here is an interesting esther . since interesting point, esther. since the the war, at least the start of the war, at least 600,000 people have fled the north of gaza, which has prompted both egypt jordan prompted both egypt and jordan to rule out taking in any refugees . but speaking at the refugees. but speaking at the snp party conference today, scottish first minister humza yousaf called for a refugee scheme. take a listen. >> in the past, people in scotland and across the uk have opened our hearts and our homes. >> we have welcomed those from syria, from ukraine and many other countries. >> conference as we must do so again , i'm calling today on the again, i'm calling today on the international community to commit to our worldwide refugee program for the people of gaza . program for the people of gaza. >> is that the way to go , >> is that the way to go, esther? do you think that brits, ordinary brits, should take in people caught up in the gaza crisis ? crisis? >> i think we've got to be very honest at the housing shortage
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we have in the uk. some people are saying we're 4 million homes short and in quick succession. we've helped people from hong kong and syria and afghanistan and ukraine. so really i would not be saying that we can be accepting more people into the uk. of course, people need to help out and i think he was calling for an international support. so you would say where is closer to home? so you would say egypt somewhere where you know, home with more know, close to home with more land. but if you're just saying how people we've got here how many people we've got here at the moment, where are we going to home? people so i would say, let's look for somewhere closer. >> but it's not really about rebecca here. >> rebecca it's not really about closer. >> it's usually about where you have some where you speak the language , where you have language, where you have a connection, where you have family. so if, god forbid, family. so if, if, god forbid, something like this happened here, to go ideally here, i would want to go ideally to york i know to new york because i know people i have where about close. >> but that wasn't true with ukraine, was it? a lot of
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ukraine, was it? so a lot of people went to poland. lot of people went to poland. a lot of people went to poland. a lot of people somewhere . a lot people went to somewhere. a lot of yes, of people came here. yes, i know. but vast majority went know. but the vast majority went to somewhere closer. and i'm saying so saying they have connections. so they have about all the they have how about all the people are already here who people who are already here who we cannot home and have. >> that sounds like another problem for the tory government to absolutely think to sort out. absolutely i think that a disgrace. i think it's to sort out. absolutely i think tiquestion.;grace. i think it's to sort out. absolutely i think tiquestion. i|race. i think it's to sort out. absolutely i think tiquestion. i thinki think it's to sort out. absolutely i think tiquestion. i think the nk it's to sort out. absolutely i think tiquestion. i think the houses a question. i think the houses i think crisis the think the housing crisis the tories i agree. tories is a disaster. i agree. >> at a time. time. >> one at a time. one time. derek, i think refugee international law says it should be same safest place first, be the same safest place first, safe country, first safe country. >> but after the second world war, that's not what happened. >> talking >> well, i'm not talking about the war. we're the second world war. we're talking so that's talking 23. so that's irrelevant. so so esther is absolutely right. i mean, we can't afford to take these people, i'm afraid. the scale of the problem is potentially enormous. there are about . 2.4 enormous. there are about. 2.4 million arabs that actually live in israel now. there are 9 million of the 60 million jews in the world that live in in israel . and so can i also ask
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israel. and so can i also ask a question, who is it that asking to move to different parts of the world? >> i have not seen israelis asking it, seeming that they would like to remain where they are. are we saying it is the people from gaza ? people from gaza? >> predominantly? predominantly, precisely palestinian? >> i'd say egyptians somewhere closer to jordan ? closer to jordan? >> well, and if you have a shared faith, jordan, if you if you have a shared faith than a country that shares that faith is probably a better place to be. with egypt. if be. jordan with egypt. but if you but you israeli you are but if you are israeli and jewish, then going and you are jewish, then going to muslim country to live in a muslim country might they're might not feel like they're asking you. some people are. >> the only >> some people are the only thing say that the thing i would say is that the population of gaza is about two 2 million of that popular nation, 50% are under 15. so there will be a lot of people with parents. and i think that we would have to find a way and i actually see this as a i frame
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this as a western problem, but i frame it as a us problem in particular, and they should be responsible . and they're £44.2 responsible. and they're £44.2 billion of aid should be associated with a safe passage for people, should we not ask why does egypt and jordan maybe not want some of those people come into their country? >> rebecca and why are you saying that you want them in the uk? u k? >> uk? >> because they're behaving unbelievably think it is unbelievably now. i think it is disgusting aren't. disgusting that they aren't. >> another question about another people >> another question about anotigaza people >> another question about anotigaza come people >> another question about anotigaza come for people >> another question about anotigaza come for example, ple >> another question about anotigaza come for example, to�* from gaza come for example, to the uk , hamas, it's debated how the uk, hamas, it's debated how much support hamas have in gaza . much support hamas have in gaza. they are the governing authority of gaza, but upwards of 50% of residents do support hamas. do we want to accommodate those people? >> no, i don't want anybody living here who thinks that hamas is great, and that includes who are. includes people who are. >> you ascertain >> and how do you ascertain that? and i'm surrounded by people here, people who are born here, who are british, think the are white british, who think the hamas are brilliant. >> we need to have a >> and i think we need to have a much bigger conversation about how we sort out, because
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how we sort that out, because that hideous situation. that is a hideous situation. >> why i why if >> but that's why i asked why if egypt and jordan don't want them , to have , why are you so happy to have them? this is because them? and this is because children separate because i would children die anyway. >> in the end, in the end, the most important thing that has to be discussed and it's the most urgent is how do we bring urgent thing is how do we bring about a ceasefire and our international leadership has been weak at discussing this. first, they all can't negotiate with terrorists . with terrorists. >> that's a direct quote from margaret thatcher. >> you don't negotiate them. what are we going to do is a direct quote by margaret thatcher. >> but that's exactly what we ended doing in northern ireland. >> but i also think a lot of negotiations are going on behind the you haven't the scenes because you haven't seen ground invasion yet. seen that ground invasion yet. you people moving you haven't seen people moving in because think this in yet, because i think this diplomacy, i think this security , i think this intelligence, i think this pressure from america and uk is happening. and i think those negotiations are getting someone that won't negotiate . someone that won't negotiate. >> is the former president you remember this guy, donald j.
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trump >> and in my second term, we're going to expand each and every one of those bands because we have choice. some very rough have no choice. some very rough people, some very, very rough people, some very, very rough people come out of those areas. they want blow our they want to blow up our country. we aren't bringing in anyone from gaza, syria, somalia to yemen or libya . okay to yemen or libya. okay >> now, derek, you were about to comment and i'll come to you, rebecca. >> i was going to say, nelson mandela was described on the floor of the house of commons as a terrorist. gandhi was described as a terrorist , you described as a terrorist, you know, and it wasn't it wasn't it didn't take long before both were welcomed back. >> but are hamas not beyond redemption ? redemption? >> well, i think all terrorists are beyond redemption. redemption, but but, but, but but i think we should just be very clear here. >> hamas are beyond redemption and hamas are terrorists. and any that is not any organisation that is not using them any organisation that is not usfailing. them any organisation that is not usfailing. everybody them any organisation that is not usfailing. everybody including em is failing. everybody including the bbc, including the bbc. absolutely. i think it's disgraceful that they haven't a rare agreement .
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rare moment of agreement. >> absolutely. tonight. there you go. it is all about you go. listen, it is all about opinions let know yours , opinions and let me know yours, marc, at gbnews.com. now it was the of the wags that the battle of the wags that gnpped the battle of the wags that gripped the a heady mix gripped the nation, a heady mix of football and some of showbiz football and some good detective work gave good old detective work gave the nafion good old detective work gave the nation . and now nation wagatha christie. and now coleen rooney is telling her side of the story in a new disney+ documentary, catch catching, which comes out tomorrow . tomorrow. >> here's the trailer for the christie starts today at the high court . high court. >> fellow wags and former friends embroiled in a bitter row , someone on my personal row, someone on my personal account was informed the sun newspaper of my private posts and stories. >> i thought , and stories. >> i thought, i'm going to do something about it. >> this is a detective story. you never find the person responsible with a smoking gun in her hand. >> she was going to lose a trial i >>i >> i needed evidence . i had to >> i needed evidence. i had to set a trap . if that was anything set a trap. if that was anything to go by. >> here's hoping vardy and rooney don't agree to forgive and forget anytime soon. now,
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coming up , as and forget anytime soon. now, coming up, as an increasing number of brits receive huge payouts to feelings payouts for injuries to feelings in the workplace and elsewhere, is britain now the undisputed snowflake capital of the world? why are we so sensitive ? my why are we so sensitive? my pundits will debate that shortly. and they've all got rhino skins. let me tell you , rhino skins. let me tell you, especially esther bullet proof. but next up, with biological males now allowed to participate in the martial arts of jiu jitsu against females , could the against females, could the incessant march of trans madness see a woman die in the ring? olympic medallist and women's rights warrior sharron davies hits back. she's next. and she's not happy
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christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . should britain take in radio. should britain take in refugees from gaza? >> big opinions on this, sue says. dear mark, ever free gaza refugee should be sent to the many muslim countries that surround gaza. please do not bnng surround gaza. please do not bring them here to the uk. you can never change the belief that hamas has on the west. we have imported terrorists for a number of years . the uk is beyond of years. the uk is beyond repair, says sue. but ian says dear gb news jews, do you not know egypt is not refusing anyone. know egypt is not refusing anyone . the larger issue is anyone. the larger issue is israel controls entry into gaza and if they leave , they may not and if they leave, they may not be allowed back in. therefore, palestinians probably won't want to leave and eric says we should welcome people who face possible
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death . there you go. it's all death. there you go. it's all about opinions. keep them coming, mark gbnews.com. lovely to have your company tom bower on the way. but first i'm joined by olympic medallist and women's rights warrior sharon davies and the british governing body of the british governing body of the martial arts sportjiu the british governing body of the martial arts sport jiu jitsu has been forced into a humiliating backtrack after tennis legend and women's rights campaigner martina navratilova blasted their decision to allow trans athletes to compete against female athletes, calling it unconscionable. the british jiu jitsu association have since announced a review of their trans inclusion policy . it comes trans inclusion policy. it comes after us podcaster and ufc commentator joe after us podcaster and ufc commentatorjoe rogan had this commentator joe rogan had this warning about people who are biological males identifying as females doing combat sport. take a watch as if the ufc had to have diversity. >> do you know what a problem that would be? we had to have a certain amount of trans folks like you had numbers, you had to achieve it. it wasn't the best
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fighters . yeah, it was just, you fighters. yeah, it was just, you know, like who meets certain criteria? there's be criteria? there's going to be a bunch that get bunch of people that get murdered bunch of people that get mu sharon wonderful to have you >> sharon wonderful to have you back on the show . so in >> sharon wonderful to have you back on the show. so in combat and heavy contact sports a biological man that identifies as female could potentially injure or indeed kill a woman in the sporting arena . the sporting arena. >> yeah, absolutely . >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> good evening to you and to everybody in the studio. and that's kind of the point. you know, men kick 50% harder and they hit 160% harder. they punch 160% harder. and that's of equal weight. okay? so that's not something bigger. that's someone of way . so in a of exactly the same way. so in a contact sport , it literally is a contact sport, it literally is a serious injury waiting to happen. and jiu jitsu isn't the only one. i mean, in this country we have aikido fencing, karate, taekwondo and would you believe it , wrestling karate, taekwondo and would you believe it, wrestling is also enabung believe it, wrestling is also enabling males to actually fight females . i mean, it's just females. i mean, it's just madness . it literally is a
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madness. it literally is a serious accident waiting to happen. and the government and uk sport have said, you can't have inclusion and fairness and safety safe safety must come first. fairness needs to come second, and then we must find ways to be inclusive. i think what's really also very interesting is that well , boxing interesting is that well, boxing is one of the associated laws that have said no , no. and the that have said no, no. and the reason they said no was because men they would not fight men said they would not fight females, they would fight females, so they would not fight women as men . and women who identified as men. and because they will then get a man's slaughter when someone gets killed . gets killed. >> yeah. too. right. >> yeah. too. right. >> so we know this and it's just so frustrating that we have to work so hard to get these governing bodies to just do the right thing. >> well, sharon , i feel i'm >> well, sharon, i feel i'm living in a parallel universe. theidea living in a parallel universe. the idea that a biological man fully intact, normally could be allowed to wrestle in a ring with a woman and then pick up a trophy , win a belt and possibly trophy, win a belt and possibly kill the poor woman. i can't believe i'm saying these words . believe i'm saying these words. so listen, let's talk about
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what's behind this sharon biological men participating in female sport is a very strange hill to die on. this is clearly the trans lobby overplaying their hands . the trans lobby overplaying their hands. is this the moment at which the public say enough is enough ? is enough? >> the situation has been sort of reverse , though. so what of reverse, though. so what happenedin of reverse, though. so what happened in 2015 was that the ioc changed the rules and then every governing body just went with it. so instead of turning around and going, well, where's the evidence ? you know, show us the evidence? you know, show us the evidence? you know, show us the scientific proof that we can remove male puberty, advantage of there's none. there's remove male puberty, advantage of a there's none. there's remove male puberty, advantage of a single re's none. there's remove male puberty, advantage of a single re's nonethe ere's remove male puberty, advantage of a single re's nonethe world not a single study in the world that that, whereas that can show that, whereas there's 19 studies that show the opposite. with there's 19 studies that show the oijo ite. with there's 19 studies that show the oijo now with there's 19 studies that show the oijo now what's with there's 19 studies that show the oijo now what's happened h there's 19 studies that show the oijo now what's happened is it. so now what's happened is it's taken us eight years to claw way back , you know, to claw our way back, you know, to world to world world swimming, to world athletics, world cycling . athletics, to world cycling. what else have we got? we've got rugby and we've got boxing. but every sport. and in the uk every other sport. and in the uk that's 60 other sports at the moment do not protect the female classification and that includes things like football , cricket
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things like football, cricket and tennis. and we've had injuries in football and cricket . you know, we've had a young girl who's been very badly injured when a fully blown male was was bowling a ball at them . was was bowling a ball at them. so i just don't understand why we have to get to a point where people hurt before people have to get hurt before we sense. well we use common sense. well indeed, swimming indeed, if it's swimming like your it's just your sport, then it's just unfair . unfair. >> but if it's boxing or if it's rugby or wrestling or jujitsu , rugby or wrestling or jujitsu, it's dangerous . i guess the it's dangerous. i guess the trans extremists will always insist on biological men in women's sport. sharon because if not, it challenges the idea that you can change your sex. that's why they won't let it go. it kills the fiction that they're peddung. peddling. >> do you know what's really fascinating , mark, was that fascinating, mark, was that world aquatics turned around when they changed rule last when they changed the rule last year and said, we're going to protect category and year and said, we're going to prote okay, category and year and said, we're going to prote okay, let's category and year and said, we're going to prote okay, let's let's|tegory and year and said, we're going to prote okay, let's let's create and said, okay, let's let's create an inclusion event, a special inclusion event at the world cup inclusion event at the world cup in berlin, which was at the beginning of this month. and we will have trans event and we will have a trans event and we will, you know, go out of our
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way to make sure that everyone will, you know, go out of our w('included.5 sure that everyone will, you know, go out of our w('included. guess that everyone will, you know, go out of our w('included. guess how everyone will, you know, go out of our w('included. guess how many ne is included. guess how many people no none. people entered? none. no none. not a single one. >> the world's gone mad. >> the world's gone mad. >> listen, sharon, they want to be in the women's races where they can win. and that's the thing, which is unfair. >> what about the sort of counterargument that actually the idea letting biologic the idea of letting biologic males identify as female males who identify as female into women's sport is a way of acknowledging how identify? acknowledging how they identify? that's tied in with their mental health. trans people are very badly treated in society. this is a policy being in is just a policy of being in inclusive . inclusive. >> yeah, and absolutely. and we can do that. you know, i don't understand why we can't be inclusive with people identifying they like . identifying however they like. and actually, women's and actually, in most women's sport, particularly in the states , we've had many states, we've had many transgender men . so that's transgender men. so that's biological who identify biological females who identify as being male. biological females who identify as being male . they're not on as being male. they're not on testosterone , but they still go testosterone, but they still go and race with the women, and the women have no problem it. women have no problem with it. so if the women can have no problem can't the problem with it, why can't the men with the reverse situation. >> you're right. sharron davies,
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you remain my hero . keep you remain my total hero. keep up work and keep up the good work and keep fighting the fight. >> you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> now the british jujitsu association an easy for you to say have said the british jujitsu association governing body adopted a policy in an attempt to be inclusive and fair. that policy has never been sorry, has never needed to be implemented at our national championships, as we've not had a trans competitor seeking to participate. however, we've now identified that the information that our policy was based on has been supersede needed and as a result, we're now conducting an urgent review of our trans inclusion policy so that it reflects this. the current thinking . would you like to know thinking. would you like to know what i think about this? i don't think that biological men should even be participating in female male tiddlywinks . take that. male tiddlywinks. take that. shove it in your pipe and smoke it all day long. coming up in uncancelled as israel is inexplicably attacked, simply for defending itself is the terror group hamas winning the pr battle? author and former bbc
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reporter tom bower is live in the studio. plus, he's got some harsh words for the bbc. you won't want to miss it. but next in the media, buzz with offended brits now receiving financial payouts for injury to feelings, has britain become the snowflake capital of the world? we'll debate that next with three completely oversensitive ninnies. i'll see you
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earlier on gb news radio . earlier on gb news radio. >> well , plenty more to come. >> well, plenty more to come. let's return to tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz and more front pages have been delivered . we'll start with the delivered. we'll start with the eye newspaper. and they lead with the following headline, hundreds killed and sheltering at hospital as israel denies airstrike . where should we go airstrike. where should we go next? let's have the daily mail hospital horror. who's to blame ? hospital horror. who's to blame? amid scenes of devastation, gaza officials claim israeli
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airstrike on hospital killed at least 500, but israel insists the blast was caused by a misfired rocket from jihadi militants . misfired rocket from jihadi militants. guardian now hundreds feared dead in gaza. hospital strike and the telegraph biden visits israel as hundreds die in gaza. hospital there you go. joe biden flies into the region on exactly what they need. m15 warns of uk terror threat from iran . another sobering headline iran. another sobering headline in tomorrow's papers . now, in tomorrow's papers. now, journalistic legend tom bower in the studio with harsh words for the studio with harsh words for the bbc in just a few minutes. but reacting to the big stories of the day, my top pundits this evening, former cabinet minister no less gb news presenter, also deputy in the whips office. she absolutely smashed that role. apparently no one said no to the mcvey . and we have banker and mcvey. and we have banker and visiting professor derek lord and author and journalist rebecca reid . now, the term rebecca reid. now, the term injury to feelings may be new to
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you, but it looks like it can win you a fortune from your employer. if you your cards employer. if you play your cards right kingston , south—west right in kingston, south—west london, trans woman week london, a trans woman this week successfully the local successfully sued the local council for which she worked being awarded £21,000 for injury to feelings . the claimant said to feelings. the claimant said the stress of being deadnamed forced her to take six months off sick leave after it took two years to register their new female name on employment records and security passes . records and security passes. meanwhile, in wales, a new auditing report has found that the national museum of wales may have broken the law after paying its former boss, £50,000, again due to injury for feelings as part of a settlement made in december last year. so as two employees receive massive , employees receive massive, massive payouts for basically made to feel sad and unhappy is britain now the snowflake capital of the world? >> rebecca i don't think that two people in two different companies in quite different years, in different parts of the country being put together into
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one illustration of the same thing helpful, especially one illustration of the same thing on pful, especially one illustration of the same thing on the, especially one illustration of the same thing on the lattercially one illustration of the same thing on the latter we ly one illustration of the same thing on the latter we don't because on the latter we don't know happened. know what happened. >> point out the >> how dare you point out the weakness this story so , so weakness of this story so, so sorry. stop being truthful? >> it is why they asked me here. i am sorry though, the i am sorry though, but on the second know what second one, we don't know what happened. think not i'm happened. so i think i'm not i'm not necessarily sure that we can comment because it might be it's very that there very possible that there was quite complicated story quite a long, complicated story andits quite a long, complicated story and it's been put down as like hurt generic hurt feelings as a generic umbrella term on the trans thing. that's more complicated because something because it is something that we're in we're seeing more often in workplaces a clash workplaces that there's a clash of ideologies some people of ideologies that some people believe sex, some believe you can change sex, some people and people believe you can't. and you're asking somebody to you're you're asking somebody to adhere they don't adhere to a belief they don't share in order to make the other person feel safe in their workplace. that workplace. and that can be a movable force on top of rebecca's giving too much rebecca's giving this too much respect, absolute bunkum. >> i hate you weren't going to say. >> i was not going to say because we can't have that. >> and i'm going to actually take head on because take this head on because actually that is very actually the thing that is very interesting them, interesting about both of them, which signals something which i think signals something going in in the world, going on in in the world, generally speaking , is this
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generally speaking, is this compensation culture. >> that's what it's all about. and the other thing that worries me about this particular story , me about this particular story, the first one that relates to the first one that relates to the transgender owner is that she claims that she was really deeply offended by her name not being adjusted for two years. but of course, she was still being paid. it didn't affect her. a in that way. and so offended, of course, was she about the fact that her her her new name was being used in the legal documents she's referred to as miss abbey, not by her real name. so if she was not anonymity, well, why should she have anonymity? >> because she's legally entitled to it and also because trans people do receive a lot of hate crimes in this country. and you see, i do think people like to be victims. >> now, i do think people are offended one way or another or offended one way or another or offended by maybe what other people are doing. i think things
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have changed significantly. what you can say in the office, what you can say in the office, what you can't say, what you could do, what you couldn't do. so i think things have fundamentally changed. and i think now people setting up a business will sometimes is it sometimes think, gosh, is it worth hassle? what can i or worth the hassle? what can i or what can't i do? but and actually and the law doesn't seem to be on tribunals. >> be should tribunals be legislating for feelings? legislating for hurt feelings? i think you've been think that if you've been unfairly dismissed, you should pursue compensation. is pursue compensation. but why is that the idea of hurt feelings a factor ? factor? >> because if you are genuinely being bullied in the workplace, >> because if you are genuinely being doeszd in the workplace, >> because if you are genuinely being does happen, workplace, >> because if you are genuinely being does happen, not'kplace, >> because if you are genuinely being does happen, not beings, which does happen, not being bullied, mistake. bullied, it's a human mistake. >> make human errors. >> people make human errors. >> people make human errors. >> years of changing the >> two years of not changing the system. somebody is system. when somebody is actively two years, even if it's not a human mistake, that is a deliberate oversight. are you telling people who telling me that people who change their marriage married name in that office didn't have their names changed? are you telling else had telling me that nobody else had the name changed in two years in that i also say that office? i would also say that office? i would also say that other in dumas that other people in dumas haven't passed away and they haven't. >> maybe the husband and let us still keep coming through. also
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people by have people who by mistake have actually found actually been found as if they're longer existing when they're no longer existing when they're no longer existing when they actually and i don't they actually are. and i don't think been out. but think they've been paid out. but £25,000. yes. and it has gone on for time. for some time. >> she was really wanting >> and if she was really wanting to if she if she was to be a grant, if she if she was have was also wanting have it if she was also wanting to a ground breaker and to be a ground breaker and actually leading by example, she would her would have actually waived her anonymity as well called herself by her generation. >> but is here, mark, rebecca >> but it is here, mark, rebecca doesn't believe it, but snowflakes right. snowflakes are all right. >> folks, back to me. >> well, folks, back to me. alastair have you been upset and offended by what you've just heard ? if so, write to me in heard? if so, write to me in confidence. mark at gbnews.com. coming up , confidence. mark at gbnews.com. coming up, which britain's coming up, which of britain's devolved now devolved parliaments is now being the being deprived of the opportunity britain's opportunity to watch britain's fastest news channel? fastest growing news channel? we've got bad news for politicians west of shropshire as greatest as i crown tonight's greatest britain and union jackass but next in uncanceled with israel inexplicably being attacked for defending itself after its civilians were slain , is the civilians were slain, is the terror group hamas winning the pr battle and is the bbc's refusal to label hamas as
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terrorists doing permanent damage to their journalistic reputation. esteemed author and ex bbc reporter tom bower joins us live in the studio. he's .
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n ext next welcome back to the show . it is welcome back to the show. it is time now for uncanceled with esteemed author and former bbc reporter tom bower. now the israel—hamas war has led to widespread condemnation of proscribed terror group hamas. but not everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet. watch as elected, british mps shamed ously attacked israel in parliament yesterday simply for defending itself against hamas. slaughter of 1300 israeli civilians just ten days ago, food , electricity, water, food, electricity, water, medicines all cut off such
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collective punishment is a war crime under the geneva conventions, the targeted killing of civilians by the israeli or palestinian must be condemned as must the kidnapping of hostages . of hostages. >> the civilians of gaza should not be made to pay the price for the atrocities of hamas. >> will the prime minister make it clear to the israeli government that laying siege to civilians in gaza by cutting food, water, power and medical suppues food, water, power and medical supplies and indiscriminate airstrikes , killing civilians is airstrikes, killing civilians is in clear violation of international law ? international law? >> why is israel the only country in the world that gets attacked for being attacked? shocking new yougov statistics from the top polling site has revealed that just 41% of 18 to 24 year olds in britain think hamas is a terrorist group, despite being prescribed as such by the british government and widely reported as such by plenty of news outlets, though
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not the bbc. i'm delighted to say that tom bower joins me now. tom lovely to have you in the studio. i wish i met you under happier circumstances. are hamas winning the pr battle in this war? >> i'm afraid they are. and tonight, above all, i mean, what is remarkable is that given what the horror that happened on that saturday in israel , hamas is saturday in israel, hamas is winning because immediately israel retaliated . it's then israel retaliated. it's then that hamas wins because that was the whole idea of the massacre on that saturday in the kibbutz and the rest in southern israel was to create the circumstances where israel would have to retaliate and then would be accused of killing, killing innocent women and children. >> israel is the bad guy and the imperial colonial power. >> absolutely . and what is >> absolutely. and what is really the most horrible part of all this is it was jeremy corbyn and the labour party that legitimise used anti—zionism stroke anti—semitism when he was leader of the labour party. he
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made it legitimate and respectable for people to come out and say the jews are terrible and equate jews with israel and everything else. and hamas tonight with the bombing or it wasn't the bombing, let us see what actually happened. but of course, the whole thing about hamas uses hospitals hamas is that it uses hospitals as shelters, as bases for assembling their weapons, for causing the terrorism and organising it. and that explosion in the hospital looked very much like a local explosion to me. not something as a result of a strikes. it could well be hamas ammunition dump that went up. we don't know . but instantly up. we don't know. but instantly the bbc reports it as an air strike by israel. on my way here tonight, the bbc reporter from jerusalem, bateman , says we jerusalem, bateman, says we shouldn't trust the israeli explanation because you can never trust the israelis. and so it goes on. and they bring out the priest whose church it is, the priest whose church it is, the baptist church in the hospital in gaza, who says that it's an israeli strike and that is it . the whole
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it's an israeli strike and that is it. the whole time the bbc is setting the tone of the israelis are to blame. and the point about the cutting off of fuel and water in that well, i've heard is on the is all been cut off for 4 or 5 days now and it's still carrying on. there doesn't seem to be a shortage. and nobody says that the reason there's no water in gaza , which there's no water in gaza, which has been independent since 2005, is because hamas hasn't built water supplies . there's no power water supplies. there's no power because hamas used the money to build weapons and doesn't build a power station. nobody reports that at least the bbc. indeed >> and actually a blockade would would play into hamas's hands what they wanted. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> will we ever get to the truth of this most recent developing story? the tragedy of a hospital blown up? and i understand that one is one particular terror cell is headquartered basement of headquartered in the basement of one of these hospitals. i don't know if it's the same hospital. 300 perished. it's a 300 people have perished. it's a tragedy will get the tragedy. will we ever get the truth ? truth? >> because because the >> yes, because because the satellite photographs will show that directory or either of that the directory or either of the rocket or the israeli
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fighter plane, one or the other. but i don't believe an israeli fighter plane would have been targeted to strike a hospital . targeted to strike a hospital. it's much more likely to have been a rocket which fell short . been a rocket which fell short. >> you covered the arab—israeli yom kippur war in 1973. you reported in 1982 as well. has anything changed? >> oh, enormously. when the bbc went there, i was first during 67 war, then the 73 war, then many times aftennards, because i got close to eric sharon and throughout the wars in lebanon was there with him. there was a balance . there was always balance. there was always a balance. there was always a balance. and what is remarkable is that the balance has gone. but the most important deficiency in the bbc now is that in those days there are experts on the middle east now, clive myrie, for example, yesterday on the six and 10:00 news on his potted history of israel , says that in 1947, 48, israel, says that in 1947, 48, the jews expelled the palestinians or the palestinian jews fled. but he didn't say that they fled because they were ordered to by the arab
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governments . radio cairo ordered governments. radio cairo ordered the palestinians to leave palestine. get out of the way, go to gaza so they could push the jews into the sea. well in the jews into the sea. well in the end, they lost the war. so the end, they lost the war. so the palestinians didn't come back. but for 70 years, the palestinians have been kept in gaza by the egyptians. and even today at lunchtime radio program , the arab spokesman says they wouldn't open the rafah crossing to the palestinian out. they have kept them trapped there for all these years . and that's the all these years. and that's the great problem. the bbc never explains. clive myrie . and all explains. clive myrie. and all of them, they don't understand this very, very complicated history , which when i was in the history, which when i was in the middle east repeatedly for the bbc, we did understand because we spent weeks, months there soaking it all in selective blindness. well, blindness , but blindness. well, blindness, but also ignorance. i mean, the thing is, you should have listened to feedback last week where they had richard burgess, the head, director bbc the head, the director of bbc news on this, is the man who was asked to explain why they don't
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use the word terrorism. and he couldn't answer. and i thought, well is this man? well, he well, who is this man? well, he was sports reporter. so the was a sports reporter. so the director a sports director of bbc news is a sports reporter. suddenly he doesn't know anything about the middle east. it's absolute astonishing indeed. >> i mean , do you think that the >> i mean, do you think that the bbc has a blind spot in relation to israel generally, politically and historically ? well, and historically? well, historically, not to ask whether the beeb is anti—semitic. the are anti—israel. >> now, there's no doubt . i >> now, there's no doubt. i mean, why would bateman today have don't trust the israelis? >> you're on record saying >> you're on record as saying you think the bbc is anti—israel? >> well, they're reporting. why is service , all is the bbc arabic service, all the now are being the reporters now are being investigated , outed for having investigated, outed for having support with hamas in the last couple of weeks. >> can you label an entire organisation? >> i think the bias, the bias leads to set her bias is definitely anti—israeli. in the last week, jeremy bowen tries to avoid that. he tries. he's the only person with experience who seeks to be evenhanded, but the rest are always , in my view, not
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rest are always, in my view, not balanced . balanced. >> the challenge for israel now face is to defend themselves, to retaliate, and there plan their military objective is to eliminate hamas , but civilians eliminate hamas, but civilians will die in every war. >> look, when britain bombed germany from 1939 to 45, they never said, we mustn't kill the germans to remove the. dresden well, dresden was was total excessive as was the hamburg bombing. but they were desperate. i mean, in the end , desperate. i mean, in the end, it's like hiroshima. if hiroshima hadn't happened, then tens of thousands of american soldiers would have died landing in japan and taking japan. in the end, war is about civilian deaths. it's awful . deaths. it's awful. >> well, the international community along now israel to defend herself. >> well, i think the only people that can can deter her. israel would be america . and i do think would be america. and i do think biden is about do that, right. >> yeah. and how do you see this playing out? you know, the region well. i mean, have we got months years this months? months or years of this months? >> end, be >> in the end, hamas will be
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destroyed in the end, somehow they will find a solution, but it will go on. and i don't think israel can afford to let it go. this key element in all this is whether iran , which is not an whether iran, which is not an arab state, iran, decides to unleash hezbollah. but my view is that now with the americans present, there will be a great risk by then. the greatest tragedy of all is it all could have been avoidable if b.b. netanyahu had not been prime minister if only israel hadn't been beset by the most dreadful. it was a security breach for start. >> but this is a political problem as well. >> you know, a corrupt government in end, government cannot, in the end, succeed . succeed. >> tom, thrilled to have you back in the studio. i look fonnard to your speech . return. fonnard to your speech. return. my thanks the brilliant my thanks to the brilliant broadcaster and journalist tom bower , who's, by the way, bower, who's, by the way, biography on jeremy corbyn is a page turner. let tell you page turner. let me tell you now, let give you a response now, let me give you a response from the bbc. they've said, we always take our use of language very seriously. anyone watching always take our use of language ve listening ly. anyone watching always take our use of language ve listening to anyone watching always take our use of language ve listening to our one watching always take our use of language ve listening to our coverage1ing or listening to our coverage will the word terrorist will hear the word terrorist used. many times we attribute it
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to those who are using it for example, the uk government . this example, the uk government. this is approach that has been is an approach that has been used and in line used for decades and is in line with that of other broadcasters . with that of other broadcasters. well, it's time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union jack and with me to have a chat about that, i've got, first of all, esther mcvey. esther who's your greatest briton? okay >> it's matt goodwin for takes on the bbc because they couldn't bnng on the bbc because they couldn't bring themselves to say hamas was a terrorist organ ization, even though it's prescribed to be so. and their justification for not saying it was absolutely squirmingly awful. so good on matt for taking on the bbc. >> well, let me tell you that matt goodwin is one of my absolute favourite public intellectuals. his substack articles are brilliant. matthew j. goodwin.com. how about you derek ? who's your greatest derek? who's your greatest briton? >> well, i must be your second favourite public intellectual . favourite public intellectual. well, my nomination this week is going to george baldock , and
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going to george baldock, and he's from milton keynes. yeah he is a an 18 year old who dropped out of school at 11 because he had anxiety problems and nervousness problems . his mother nervousness problems. his mother said that she never, ever saw him smile as a child , but today him smile as a child, but today he started an undergraduate degree at cambridge university in history. and that's a typical example of the british indomitable spirit . indomitable spirit. >> what a fine lad. congratulations george. okay. and rebecca, you're you're a brilliant hero today . brilliant hero today. >> another public intellectual who i'm sure you adore, madonna. she's she's back. she's performing. she was incredibly late. she didn't do as many songs as she was supposed to. she made everybody cross. that is proper diva behaviour. and i love it. >> okay. well, i like madonna, too, going it to too, but i'm going to give it to that student, that brilliant young student, george, so well. and george, who did so well. and good your degree at good luck with your degree at university okay. what about university 80. okay. what about your union jackass? >> esther oh, it's got be the >> esther oh, it's got to be the welsh whose band? welsh senate there. whose band? they've banned. gb news from their buildings. however it
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wouldn't be too upset. gb news because i'm not thinking they're going to be too of mark going to be too many of mark dreyfuss watching gb dreyfuss acolytes watching gb news. but what a disgrace. it shows them to be narrow minded and quite ignorant that they can't see another point of view. >> plus they're missing out, including your brilliant show with phil at the weekends. and including your brilliant show with aboutt the weekends. and including your brilliant show with about you, weekends. and including your brilliant show with about you, derek? 1ds. and including your brilliant show with about you, derek? your\nd including your brilliant show with about you, derek? your union jackass? >> it's got to be hannah ingram—moore , who's the daughter ingram—moore, who's the daughter of the late capt , ingram—moore, who's the daughter of the late capt, sir tom moore, who was today in court challenging a demolition order on a spa building that she has built for personal use. i think she's really tarnished her own reputation and that of her late father's. >> okay , now she says it's for >> okay, now she says it's for the foundation and a legacy that many locals can use. older people with health problems. but look, that. how look, thank you for that. how about rebecca, your jackass? >> alicia keys, as >> mine's alicia keys, who, as you discussed earlier nana, you discussed earlier with nana, either incredibly poorly either is incredibly poorly informed or not brave enough to
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nail her colours to the mast of palestine and really, really problematic. but she said she shared post saying shared an instagram post saying she when paragliding was paragliding when paragliding was used as a tool for war crimes earlier this week . by. earlier this week. by. >> okay, brilliant. well, look here is the winner . yes, indeed here is the winner. yes, indeed it is the welsh said, thank you so much for my brilliant pundits tonight you for your company. i'm back on friday for mark dolan tonight night. friday to tuesday inclusive the brilliant patrick christys is here tomorrow . tomorrow. >> alex deegan here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news who's the storm system has yet to fully arrive, but once it does, it's going to drop a lot of rain between now and the weekend storm. babette is brewing down to south—west initially to the south—west initially throwing across the throwing rain up across the south during wednesday , but then south during wednesday, but then continuing to track northwards and kind of becoming slow moving on night over northern on wednesday night over northern ireland, and ireland, northern england and then of eastern then into parts of eastern scotland we have an amber scotland where we have an amber warning but have warning in place. but we have yellow warnings across a good part up date part of the uk. keep up to date with weather warnings
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with those weather warnings through website . through the met office website. but tonight and some but back to tonight and some rain parts of northern rain across parts of northern ireland may turn a little heavy later in the night, but for many it'll be a dry night. the winds continuing to strengthen and with cloud, it will with a lot more cloud, it will be milder night compared be a much milder night compared to across to recent nights across scotland, england and scotland, northern england and northern for many northern ireland. and for many wednesday will still be a dry and a bright day. northern england. england. good england. eastern england. good part staying dry, england. eastern england. good parithere'll staying dry, england. eastern england. good parithere'll be staying dry, england. eastern england. good parithere'll be showeryj dry, england. eastern england. good parithere'll be showery rain but there'll be showery rain over the midlands, wales and southern england. that's going to we through the to pep up as we go through the day. pretty heavy day. could turn pretty heavy dunng day. could turn pretty heavy during evening across during wednesday evening across the south, strengthening the south, the strengthening gusty as well. wet and gusty wind as well. wet and windy weather also working towards northern ireland. so some likely here some heavy bursts likely here through wednesday evening. temperatures the teens, temperatures into the teens, even high teens in the even the high teens in the south. but not feeling very warm with windy weather with a wet and windy weather which continues through wednesday in wednesday night. and then in thursday, thursday to thursday, on thursday grinds to a halt eastern scotland. a halt across eastern scotland. hence have that amber hence why we have that amber warning here. but warning in place here. but there'll heavy showers there'll still be heavy showers elsewhere as well . who is it?
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elsewhere as well. who is it? >> we're here for the show . for >> we're here for the show. for energy this time. >> welcome to the dinosaur hour . >> welcome to the dinosaur hour. >> welcome to the dinosaur hour. >> i was married to a therapist. yeah? and you survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie second best. i'm bellissima. you interviewed saddam hussein? what's that like? i was terrified. i'm playing strip poker with these three. >> oh , no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> my cds need to be put in alphabetical order. >> oh, are you going to be problematic again
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here with gb news in the top story tonight, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is blaming what he calls barbaric terror lists for the attack on a hospital in gaza city. >> tonight, that has left about 500 people dead . israeli 500 people dead. israeli intelligence says it was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by the palestinian islamic jihad. but officials in gaza blame an israeli airstrike. thousands were seeking shelter at the hospital , al. and earlier at the hospital, al. and earlier tonight, it was engulfed in flames with survivors being pulled out and transferred to nearby hospitals while the dead were being laid out outside . the were being laid out outside. the world health organisation has condemned the explosion, calling it unprecedented . and the it unprecedented. and the foreign secretary james cleverly says the uk will work with
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