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. nigel thank you and middlehurst. nigel thank you and good evening to you. >> well, the top story tonight is that the metropolitan police is that the metropolitan police is asking protest organiser users to urgently re consider their plans for demonstration in london during remembrance commemorations this weekend . commemorations this weekend. senior officers said their concerned by the danger posed by breakaway groups who were intent on fuelling disorder by joining the march. the met held talks with organisers today but requests to postpone the protest were declined, meaning while just stop oil activists have denied targeting the cenotaph this morning after around 100 protesters were arrested. the group says they were moved to the base of the monument by police after traffic was shut down near downing street. separately, two other activists smashed the glass, covering a precious artwork at the national gallery. they were arrested on
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suspicion of criminal damage. united nations chief says gaza is becoming a graveyard for children . antonio guterres says children. antonio guterres says the protection of civilians must be paramount in the conflict between israel and hamas. he says israel's ground operations are hitting civilians as hospitals and un facilities, including shelters . at the same including shelters. at the same time, he says, hamas uses civilians as human shields and continues launching rockets towards israel. mr guterres says no one is safe . no one is safe. >> i'm deeply concerned about clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing and let me be clear no party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law. i salute all those who continue their life saving work despite the ovennhelming challenges and risks and the unfolding catastrophe make the need for a
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humanitarian ceasefire more urgent . with every passing hour . urgent. with every passing hour. >> well, news here at home, laws designed to provide a minimum level of cover during strikes have been extended now to include ambulance staff, rail workers and border force employees, train staff will be asked to operate 40% of their normal time table border security will have to keep all airports open during strikes . airports open during strikes. it's the minimum service level act passed early this year, but has faced criticism from trade unions who say it threatens the right to strike. and a news away from home. donald trump has been facing a civil fraud trial that threatens his property empire. the former us president is accused of inflating the value of his properties by over £1.65 billion in order to secure more favourable loan terms . losing favourable loan terms. losing the case could mean significant financial consequences for his property interests. mr trump says the court case is just a
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witch hunt. you with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . good evening. news channel. good evening. >> well, last saturday, once again saw appalling scenes in london. i show you some shots of that in just a minute. but to get some context about the big row that is going on, a huge debate, whether the march through london past the cenotaph should be banned . and on should be banned. and on armistice day, right . let's get armistice day, right. let's get our facts in a row straight here. saturday is the 11th of november. that is the actual anniversary of the armistice on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. it's something that in the last few years has been commemorated with. for example , train station stopping example, train station stopping minute silence, being observed
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in offices . but minute silence, being observed in offices. but our national act of commemoration takes place on the nearest sunday to armistice day, and that of course, will happen on sunday, the 12th. right. the first thing to clear up is there is no planned march or protest that will take place on the sunday. our national act of commemoration, when the king of commemoration, when the king of course, will lay a wreath at the cenotaph. but the whole weekend is one of remembrance and armistice day itself. the 11th, as i said to you, has recently taken on more significance and what has been planned by those that organise these marches . a coalition of these marches. a coalition of groups they originally wanted to have a million man march on that very day , that very day that we very day, that very day that we choose every year to remember the great sacrifices that have been made for our freedom to call that, to call that insensitive would be an
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understatement . but something understatement. but something else that needs clearing up is the root of the proposed march. now, they're not going to get a million people, but they may well have 70 to 100,000. but to be clear, the march will not go past the cenotaph. let's have a look at the map and this map shows you the proposed route. and it begins in hyde park. it finishes up at the american embassy . it does not go directly embassy. it does not go directly . this will not go directly past the cenotaph , but it will go the cenotaph, but it will go close enough . and here's the close enough. and here's the point. the real point is that this is the 11th of november. we're talking about. just look at what happened to those that were out for the royal british legion on charing cross station last saturday afternoon. there they were absolutely surrounded ended. now they put on a pretty phlegmatic performance in the middle of all of this, but i've no doubt they must have felt pretty intimidated in that
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picture. i think is an absolute disgrace. that picture tells us that for all the much vaunted talk of the huge success we have made in this country, the huge success we've made in terms of multiculturalism , um, the whole multiculturalism, um, the whole thing is a massive success. we can see here in our country we have a significant number of people with whom we have no shared history , with whom we shared history, with whom we have no shared culture and who it seems have absolute no respect whatsoever either for our ways, our customs, our traditions , or indeed our traditions, or indeed our national act of commemoration . national act of commemoration. the vast majority of the british pubuc the vast majority of the british public do not think this march should go ahead on armistice day. and yet it between the police and the government, nothing is getting done. now, about an hour ago , the deputy about an hour ago, the deputy assistant commissioner , ade assistant commissioner, ade
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adelekan the met police said the risk of violence and disorder unked risk of violence and disorder linked to breakaway groups is growing. this is of concern ahead of a significant and busy weekend in the capital. our message to organisers is clear. please. we ask you to urgently rican consider it is not appropriate to hold any protests in london this weekend. we urge and we ask you to read , consider and we ask you to read, consider and we ask you to read, consider and what do we get from the home secretary and the prime minister? well, of course suella is very good at denouncing these marches as hate marches. but given we have the public order act, it is not beyond the wit of man for the police and the government to actually show some courage and some leadership and to do what most of us think is the right and appropriate thing. and yet i'm afraid we're led by gutless people who are not prepared to do this. and who allow events to overtake us. maybe that'll change between now
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and the end of the week. but right now it's as if the police are saying to the government, you decide and the government is saying to the police, you decide the law, as it fairly clearly states, as it needs the met to recommend that the march should be stopped for the home secretary act . be stopped for the home secretary act. but be stopped for the home secretary act . but let me ask secretary to act. but let me ask you, should this march take place? i want your views farage at gbnews.com well, joining me is phil campion , former sas is phil campion, former sas trooper and professor matthew goodwin joins us down the line from hitchin in hearts and politics professor and of course pollster who may have some numbers for us on how the great british public feel . phil british public feel. phil campion for our servicemen this weekend . these events , it was weekend. these events, it was originally, of course, to mark the end of the first world war, then the second world war. but of every subsequent of course, every subsequent conflict . how do you feel? conflict. how do you feel? >> it's arguably the most important day in the military calendar and rightly so. it
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shouldn't be marred by other things that are of no relation to it whatsoever. so you know, you have to you have to question why somebody would want to make such a noise on that particular day and why they couldn't do it on another so that throws on another day. so that throws up a problem straight up a problem for me straight away. doing it because away. are you doing it because of happening or of what's happening in gaza or have another agenda in have you got another agenda in the boiling away, which the back boiling away, which looking the people looking at some of the people within marches that have within those marches that have been you'd probably been held, you'd probably think there somewhere. there might well be somewhere. so feel you feel there's so do you feel you feel there's an anti—british agenda here? >> do you? >> do you? >> i think there's definitely, you anti—establishment, you know, an anti—establishment, anti—british. you'd call these some people on the some of these people on the streets for anything that stood up the establishment. up against the establishment. and think hijacking and i think they're hijacking it. i've been to gaza and i've been to israel, and i know both sides the argument pretty sides of the argument pretty well. okay. but to understand middle eastern politics, you've got brain small got to have a brain like a small planet. to be huge. planet. it's got to be huge. okay. i don't understand it fully, but what understand okay. i don't understand it fu there it what understand okay. i don't understand it fu there it wia t understand okay. i don't understand it fu there it wia lot understand okay. i don't understand it fu there it wia lot of understand okay. i don't understand it fu there it wia lot of veryrstand is there are a lot of very genuine people in both sides of the fence who are suffering greatly at the moment. okay.
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both israeli and gazans. okay. however propped up however this is propped up and pushed the front by groups pushed to the front by groups like hamas, who, you know, the very means violence very word hamas means violence in hebrew and violent violence and valour in their own translation. it's, you know , translation. it's, you know, it's incredible. >> i get the argument, phil, that these are these are the politics of a foreign country playing out on london streets. one counter argument to what you've just said, some would say that the huge sacrifice that was made was made so that we could be a country of free speech. and but demonstrating is part of that, right? >> it is. but we still need to you know, we still need to observe that, you know, the rights of the soldiers and of the people that are supporting, you and you know, the poppy parade and all stuff should be all that sort of stuff should be observed. okay. we'd be asked to observed. okay. we'd be asked to observe if the was on observe it if the boot was on the other they should also the other foot. they should also ask , how much leeway ask themselves, how much leeway would given to go and would you be given to go and push own their country? >> well, i think we know the answer to that exactly. no, no, i we know the answer to i think we know the answer to that very, very clearly.
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that one very, very clearly. now, matt goodwin joining me now, matt goodwin is joining me down matt, just to down the line. matt, just to begin your pollster hat begin with, your pollster hat on, do the great british on, how do the great british pubuc on, how do the great british public feel about this proposed march this coming saturday? >> well, in a word, nigel, they're unhappy . we only 20% of they're unhappy. we only 20% of they're unhappy. we only 20% of the country say they support the march going ahead. only 10% of the country, 1 in 10 strongly support it . a the country, 1 in 10 strongly support it. a clear the country, 1 in 10 strongly support it . a clear plurality, support it. a clear plurality, 43, say they don't think the march should go ahead . the rest march should go ahead. the rest say they don't know. so this is really only appealing to a minority of the country. and when also asked, look, do you think the march should just be banned , half of the country banned, half of the country said, yeah , let's ban the march . said, yeah, let's ban the march. and only 18, one eight said no. we think the march should go ahead.so we think the march should go ahead. so i'm afraid to say, nigel, that on this issue, i think the home secretary and the leaders who are allowing this to happen, i think they're on the wrong side of public opinion. >> well , i certainly agree with
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>> well, i certainly agree with that. worth remembering that. and worth remembering that, that the bbc's that, of course, that the bbc's gary , one of those who gary lineker, one of those who believes march should go believes the march should go ahead. but matt goodwin, you over weekend were putting over the weekend were putting out messages on social out some messages on social media that you think media suggesting that you think it might a good thing if this it might be a good thing if this march does go ahead on what should be a very solemn day . should be a very solemn day. >> well, i think, as you were just discussing, look what this march represents for many people. that image that you people. what that image that you showed represents for many people is , i think, two sides of people is, i think, two sides of britain. you know, you've got the you know, you've got the poppy the you know, you've got the poppy sellers, patriotic, dignified thing, dignified respect thing, britain's traditions and then you've got the people surrounding them , angry millet surrounding them, angry millet in some cases. and as we've seen on some of the marches voicing open sympathy for hamas and islamist terrorism . and i think islamist terrorism. and i think my view on this , nigel, is my view on this, nigel, is really counter to some of the views on on social media. and i think the march should go ahead because i think we all need to see now what's happening to the country . i think we need to
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country. i think we need to really see where things like mass immigration have brought us, a of investment us, where a lack of investment and has brought us, and integration has brought us, where identity politics and the woke left have brought us. i think we really now need to be able to stand back as a country and look at what is actually unfolding on the ground and the extent to which british identity , culture, history, our values are clearly being undermined actually by this fusion of radical islamism. on one side. and the woke identity left on the other. and that's why i think we just need to be able to watch this thing unfold and get real about the problems facing britain . britain. >> so put it out there. it'll wake us all up as to what the problems really are, and then maybe we'll get some political action. goodwin well, action. matt goodwin well, i hope so. >> i think the obvious answer to the problems we're facing are pretty we need to reduce pretty clear. we need to reduce immigration charleton we need to invest integrating invest in integrating our communities. push communities. we need to push back against very back against this very polarising identitarian woke left that would really have us
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all fighting each other in the streets rather than bringing us together and being proud about our history, proud about our cultural nato. >> and that's what this weekend is supposed to be about. phil campion the goodwin is campion the goodwin argument is get it out there, worse is better. we have to see the full extent of what's gone wrong. i think understand the think we have to understand the full of what's gone wrong. >> but think trying to bring >> but i think trying to bring it to the front by putting these marches on is just exasperating the know the problem. you know what? i want to see people on. you're to going all of people going drag all sorts of people out both sides wouldn't out on both sides that wouldn't have this march have been there if this march wasn't on. and you're just going to make the whole thing worse. wasn't on. and you're just going to rknowthe whole thing worse. wasn't on. and you're just going to rknow what 1ole thing worse. wasn't on. and you're just going to rknow what 1ole problems se. wasn't on. and you're just going to rknow what1ole problems are. we know what the problems are. we know what the problems are. we problems are. we know what the problems are. >> well, i think we've actually had them illustrated very clearly. >> absolutely. clearly. >> we solutely. clearly. >> we have ly. clearly. >> we have absolutely. in a way we before. thank you we haven't before. thank you very indeed. phil ever. very much indeed. phil as ever. matthew, thank in a moment, matthew, thank you. in a moment, we first we look fonnard to the first king's speech that will take place in the palace of westminster, first king's westminster, the first king's speech years. but speech in over 70 years. but what's he actually
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>> well some of your reactions to whether this march should take place on armistice day. >> frank says why are we asking the demonstrators not to march over the weekend? we should be telling them . murray says it telling them. murray says it should definitely be cancelled all weekend and lee says no , no, all weekend and lee says no, no, no, this is a day to commemorate the armistice . surely they can the armistice. surely they can pick another day, which was the point that big phil campion was making just a moment ago. now, the former prime minister, boris johnson , visited israel johnson, visited israel yesterday . it was a surprise yesterday. it was a surprise visit and he was interviewed exclusively by gb news. here's a short segment of what he had to say. >> the people who take those decisions about use of terrorist or not terrorist, they should go to the rooms that i've just been in. they should go to cafes, afars and the other places and
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to all the sites where the brutality was dispensed by those hamas terrorist posts. and they would be in absolute no doubt what those people were trying to do. they were trying to terrify, but also the many tens of thousands , hundreds of thousands thousands, hundreds of thousands , perhaps even millions of people around the world who are cut ing hamas. so much slack. should look at what happened. and they should realise that when they go on these marches and they shout these slogans , i and they shout these slogans, i think quite hate filled slogans against israel , they are against israel, they are actually giving their support to the kind of crazed race, racist, racist violence that we saw on october the 7th. well it's a really quite strong words there from boris johnson about the marchers and what the sympathies of many of them, perhaps to many of many of them, perhaps to many of really are . of them really are. >> and the man that conducted
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that interview of course, that interview is of course, mark white, news security mark white, gb news security editor, to me now editor, who speaks to me now live from tel aviv . mark, did live from tel aviv. mark, did you get the impression that bofis you get the impression that boris johnson, having visited that kibbutz where the massacre took place , he sounded like he took place, he sounded like he was very, very moved by it . was very, very moved by it. there is no doubt at all. >> i mean, he still looked shaken. and i spoke to him about what he saw and he said it was just awful. he was in a house where the blood pools have dried up. blood was still there . the up. blood was still there. the drag marks, the bullets in the wall and in a sofa. so it was quite clear that a terrible massacre had happened in that one house. and there were multiple houses all around the kibbutz he was in. so i mean, he he knows , you know, he's as he knows, you know, he's as a former journalist , what the news former journalist, what the news cycle is like that a month on people's memories start to fade about just how awful that event was. and understandably, with
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all the images coming out of gaza that is dominate the news cycle. so he wanted to just hammer home the need to remember what happened there and why israel is engaged in what it's engagedin israel is engaged in what it's engaged in at the moment and not to have any illusions about what hamas is people need, he said. to be clear eyed about the fact that this is a murderous terrorist group that needs to be taken out of the picture . taken out of the picture. >> yeah, i mean, look, there's no doubt that hamas want to wipe out the state of israel and the people that live within it that is clearly not israel's objective in gaza, but the death toll in gaza is now over 10,000 dead. and it would seem that the united nations are now sounding pretty firmly against the israeli government . there's no israeli government. there's no doubt about it. >> antonio guterres, the secretary—general again today describing the situation in gaza
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as a graveyard for our children. and indeed all all of the united nafions and indeed all all of the united nations agencies coming together with one voice today to call for a ceasefire. well, at the moment, at least, israel's allies are sticking behind israel in terms of not calling for a ceasefire. but they are putting an awful lot of pressure on israel for humanitarian pauses. on israel for humanitarian pauses . and i think it's clear pauses. and i think it's clear that some of that pressure is working, because what israel has doneis working, because what israel has done is opened up a corridor south through that salah al—din highway from north gaza down to the south of gaza. they're opening it for about four hours every day, trying to secure it from hamas attacks to allow people to go down. but of course, we just know, nigel, that so many people don't want to go down. they want to stay in the north partly because they're being prevented from going south by hamas, but also because as of this understanding mindset that many palestinians have about
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enforced displacement, many palestinians have about enforced displacement , they enforced displacement, they don't want to be forced out of their homes, believing that they'll never get back there again. yeah yeah, no, i understand that. >> and the rafah crossing with egypt open again after two days of not being so how are the egyptians making sure that hamas fighters are not among those injured, that are getting out? >> well, we don't know exactly what they're doing in terms of the increased security protocols , but israel was absolutely asking for that. israel was very concerned that actually in those ambulances going across that border into egypt were not severely injured. civilians but where indeed hamas terror is. so it seems that that particular issue has been answered to israel , al's satisfaction. so israel, al's satisfaction. so it's opened again. and those those hundreds well, thousands of foreign nationals can start making their way over the border into egypt. we know that about
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100 uk nationals have made it so far, but that still leaves at least another 100 that the uk government have been able to make contact with. >> yeah. and final thought, mark. it seems that hezbollah are getting rather more active with firing their rockets into northern israel . this is a real northern israel. this is a real worry, nigel, i have to say. >> ever since hassan nasrallah, the head of hezbollah , his the head of hezbollah, his speech on friday, where people kind of sighed a bit of a, you know, relief thinking that, okay, he's not declared all out war on israel, but he did indicate that an uptick in violence and that is exactly what's happened with lots of missiles , rockets and other missiles, rockets and other munitions being fired over israel's northern border. and today, nigel, for the first time, we've had more attacks coming over that northern border from lebanon than we have from hamas out of gaza . hamas out of gaza. >> yeah, mark white live from tel aviv, thank you very much
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indeed. tel aviv, thank you very much indeed . now, tomorrow is a grand indeed. now, tomorrow is a grand day. the state opening of parliament. but it really is quite an event. and of course, as king charles will be there to deliver the speech on behalf of the government, the first time a king has done that for over 70 years, joining analyse years, joining me to analyse what or might not be said what might or might not be said is sean werth, director of the westminster policy institute and former adviser to former downing street adviser to david cameron . sean, welcome. david cameron. sean, welcome. it's a tough time there. 20 points behind in the polls . it's points behind in the polls. it's the last. well first and last king's speech before the next general election . i guess what general election. i guess what he needs to try and do, too, is to try and show some clear blue water between him and the labour party. >> yeah , i mean, the first thing >> yeah, i mean, the first thing you've got to try and do you're right. this is the last, last legislative move, if you like , legislative move, if you like, before the election. you've got to say that this is not a government limping to the finish line. given those polls us without a plan that's going to lose. so you've got to you've
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got to demonstrate there's a plan. problem is that there plan. the problem is that there isn't enough time to do anything serious like , you know, planning serious like, you know, planning reform, say, and like because it takes ages to get legislation through. like literally through. it's like literally three or something like three years or something like that. get that. it will take to get a serious reform plan on something like i always use the example planning because planning is holding country back holding this country back massively. you massively. as you know. but, you know, he's got like know, he's got he's got like a few months , so he's got to few months, so he's got to demonstrate he's got a big plan, but he's also got to demonstrate that is a government that that this is a government that has is, you know, serious messages to push for the election . and i think what election. and i think what they're trying to do is create some divisions with the labour party. and you'll seen in party. and you'll have seen in the press there's briefings that he might open up oil and he might open up more oil and gas licences, which labour oppose. he might do something on ideologues trying to get into our schools and tell our kids that there's 1000 genders trying to get rid of that sort of stuff, you know, that sort of and that sort of stuff wins the labor party up, really. you know, they mad over that
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know, they go mad over that stuff. so creates some stuff. so that creates some divisions, but it doesn't quite tell there's a big tell everyone that there's a big plan. real sort of plan. so that's the real sort of tension oh, no, you're tension here. oh, no, you're missing the point. >> huge plan. nobody >> there's a huge plan. nobody born, born from 2009 or born, nobody born from 2009 or aftennards will ever be able to buy a cigarette. don't worry about the drug epidemic in the country. i mean, some of this stuff, we this at stuff, you know, we saw this at the conference speech. he seems to have a peculiar set of priorities as well. to have a peculiar set of priorithinks well. to have a peculiar set of priorithinks wel|i to have a peculiar set of priorithink s wel|i gather to have a peculiar set of priorithinks wel|i gather i don't >> i think what i gather i don't know going to happen, know if this is going to happen, but i gather there's going to be something a bit more visionary around which something a bit more visionary anonid which something a bit more visionary anon the which something a bit more visionary anon the 22nd which something a bit more visionary anon the 22nd in which something a bit more visionary anon the 22nd in terms which something a bit more visionary anon the 22nd in terms of which is on the 22nd in terms of economic vision. on the smoking thing, anyone's thing, i don't think anyone's really honest. really noticed, to be honest. i know you're a famous smoker. no, but it seems a very odd fiddling with a—levels. >> and bringing ban >> and bringing in that ban seems an set of priorities. seems an odd set of priorities. that's i'm saying. that's what i'm saying. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> think that stuff looks >> i think that stuff looks like, know, somebody who's like, you know, somebody who's on trying to on their way out trying to create a little bit of a legacy, but cares. so i hope but nobody cares. so i hope that's going really that's not not going to really feature. but i mean, the big thing is have got, as the thing is have we got, as the conservative got a serious
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conservative party got a serious economic plan, are we going to be able to you know, the labour party 20 odd points, be able to you know, the labour party consistently,odd points, be able to you know, the labour party consistently, literallyts, average consistently, literally going towards an election before i in politics and number i worked in politics and number 10, all that and high fluting coming on here and all that stuff. i used to be a branch chairman, know, organising chairman, you know, organising leaflet this leaflet deliverers and this election want stuff we election we just want stuff we can sell on the doorstep. and i think we need some stuff like that out of this speech. that out of this king's speech. >> it doesn't come >> so if it doesn't come tomorrow, there'll be an uplifting autumn statement from that bullish optimist, jeremy hunt. >> well, i think jeremy's. jeremy sunak sorry, rishi sunak will, i think, come out and try and set out a sort of an economic vision for this country for growth . for growth. >> but all he gets miserablism from the chancellor. >> we do. but, you know , the >> we do. but, you know, the economy's there's a difficult situation, but i think there's serious things. i'm chair of a thing called conservative friends of business and we're pressuring the party to do a lot more to like restore the conservative party as the party of business. >> reversing 30% >> so like reversing the 30% increase corporation tax this
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increase in corporation tax this yean increase in corporation tax this year, revisiting ir35 rules which drive the self—employed crazy. >> sean they've done none of these. they've got it all wrong with business. >> i know they have and that's that's why we're, that's why we've been set up literally set up last year. but the big thing that the needs to do, that the party needs to do, i think the labour party is coming on to that ground and i don't think they're serious. think they're really serious. they're support they're saying they support business, the party business, but the entire party basically trade union basically backs the trade union movement a whole load of the movement and a whole load of the woke left that think that companies be forcing you companies should be forcing you to personal pronouns to use your personal pronouns and of stuff. and all that kind of stuff. yeah, get that the yeah, no, i get that the conservative party has got to got take that territory back. got to take that territory back. but you corporation tax but you know, corporation tax going as it is a massive issue. >> that's a disaster. >> that's a disaster. >> and there's a there's a lot of actual conservative mps that are pressuring to get that back down. >> we'll what comes >> we'll see what comes tomorrow. see what comes tomorrow. we'll see what comes in autumn statement. but how in the autumn statement. but how energetic do you think those people that you used to organise as canvassers and leaflets are, they're at the moment, they lack
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stuff enough to sell on the doorsteps. >> i've now just got back into local stuff and organisation and there's a gulf between when i used to do it, i was in wandsworth, which was a flagship. it was, yeah, and we used to, you know, we smashed labour every election, lowest, lowest council tax . yeah, lowest lowest council tax. yeah, lowest council of those. that council tax, all of those. that was thing. and it's was our big thing. and now it's laboun was our big thing. and now it's labour. it's labour run , which labour. it's labour run, which is turnaround. but what is a huge turnaround. but what we on doorstep is stuff we want on the doorstep is stuff we want on the doorstep is stuff we sell, which is, is we can sell, which is, is not visionary. the stuff visionary. that is the stuff like, you know, stop the trans indoctrinating my kids with critical race theory and all sorts of weird and wonderful things. so we do want well, maybe, but we want big vision as well. maybe, but we want big vision as welmaybe get some of that >> maybe we get some of that tomorrow. you won't. i don't >> maybe you won't. i don't know. you don't know. we will find out, course. and analyse find out, of course. and analyse all it tomorrow here all of it tomorrow evening here at i can say is from at 7:00. all i can say is from my to the conservative my visit to the conservative party i think the party conference, i think the activists are like a lost tribe. they're out there in the wilderness desperate for leadership, desperate for a vision they can believe in. in a
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moment, we go and have a look at what's been happening in a courtroom in new york this afternoon with the one and only donald j.
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berserk earlier on gb news radio show . moments ago, donald trump show. moments ago, donald trump went back in to the new york courtroom. >> now, this is a civil case and the claim is the claim is that he overvalued his assets in order to borrow large sums of money at advantageous terms. the whole case is being heard by judge engoron and judge andrew on a loan will decide whether the trump organisation and trump himself are innocent or guilty. donald trump said earlier on today , i'm sure the judge will today, i'm sure the judge will rule against me because he always rules against me . i always rules against me. i thought that mar—a—lago was very underestimated. now that means, folks, that mar—a—lago the judge said, was worth between 18 and
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$27 million when it's probably worth about $500 million, if not maybe even $1 billion. i mean, the whole thing is a joke. i go on, i didn't do anything about it. i just left it, said trump. ijust it. i just left it, said trump. i just let it be. i don't care. this is a very, very unfair trial and i hope the public is watching it. the judge said to mr trump's barrister , mr keys, mr trump's barrister, mr keys, can you control your client? this is a non—political rally. this is a non—political rally. this is a courtroom . i don't this is a courtroom. i don't want editorialising we'll be here forever . well, joining me here forever. well, joining me down the line to discuss this and much else is kash patel, formerly of the national security council. and an accomplished lawyer in his own right. kash i mean, this system is so politicised that a value mar—a—lago at $18 million, doesn't it just prove the whole thing is a complete and utter
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farce? >> well, it's great to be with you, nigel. and look, as a former public defender myself and the equivalent of a crown prosecution service here in england over here would england over here you would think place that the think the one place that the rule law would facts is rule of law would meet facts is in court but what in a court of law. but what donald trump has been able to show world, just america show the world, not just america , is that there is a two tier system of justice. and it's not just that the federal level, it's at the state level. and it's at the state level. and it's not just the criminal it's not just at the criminal level. the civil level. level. it's at the civil level. you don't have be a real you don't have to be a real estate tycoon to that the estate tycoon to know that the most property in south most valued property in south florida, lago, not florida, mar a lago, is not worth but the key worth $18 million. but the key here that the attorney here is that the attorney general, the prosecutor in this case campaigned on convicting donald and found a statute donald trump and found a statute that had never been used to depnve that had never been used to deprive donald trump of a jury trial for a fraud, prosecute , trial for a fraud, prosecute, which has no fraud victims. there's no victims of fraud in this case. the only purpose is to gut donald trump financially and participate in the rigging of an election cash . of an election cash. >> it's astonishing. and i think
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that at some point, americans need to have a very good look at serious reform of their judicial system. maybe cash. this explains us why the polling we saw that came out yesterday shows trump . leading in five of shows trump. leading in five of the six key marginal states swing states, but now leading by an average of four points. and in some cases up to 8 or 9 points. so these are very, very dramatic. polling figures aren't they? >> no, you're absolutely right. and look, as an individual, as president trump, senior adviser for national security , i travel for national security, i travel the country and participate in these so i see the real these events. so i see the real time feed and reaction from whether it's the federal cases in dc or florida or criminal in dc or florida or the criminal case in new york or georgia or the colorado case to try to get him off the ballot where was actually the lead witness in that case? for donald trump, it's combination effects it's a combination of effects that have left these battleground states in the middle of the road. americans to say we do not want a two tier
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system of justice. we don't want weaponized law enforcement and intelligence. not about intelligence. it's not about donald they might come donald trump. they might come after and family if i dare after me and my family if i dare to the thing or pull to say the wrong thing or pull the for the wrong way. the lever for the wrong way. that's what people waking up to. >> i get it. and finally, of course, some big state elections >> i get it. and finally, of course,placel big state elections >> i get it. and finally, of course,place in g state elections >> i get it. and finally, of course,place in virginia elections >> i get it. and finally, of course,place in virginia today ns taking place in virginia today are bellwether state. are a great bellwether state. we'll watch with great interest in you joining in cash. thank you for joining us again . come and see us again us again. come and see us again soon, please . soon, please. >> we'll do. thanks so much and we'll analyse those results tomorrow as well. >> now , the what the farage >> now, the what the farage moment is on conservative home. yesterday it was published that a poll of conservative party members and activists shows that seven out of ten would welcome me back in the conservative party . this is me back in the conservative party. this is a me back in the conservative party . this is a big, big me back in the conservative party. this is a big, big change from back in 20 1415, when only 2/5 of the party thought i should be a part of it. and that's because in those days, being a genuine eurosceptic was marginal within the conservative party. it is now main street and
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perhaps some of those people think that maybe i believe in the same things that they believe in. what a pity that the central party and most of their mps simply don't. now the war on the motorist is something that we have been covering pretty extensively on this program. the ulez extension, the 20 mile an hour speed limits, but of course, parking, parking is another area where there after the motorist and quite extra ordinary that in the city of bath there is now app on the app that you have to have and you have to have a smartphone . if have to have a smartphone. if you are able to pay your parking. but there are now an astonishing 198 different tariffs defined and tariffs according to when your car was made, different tariffs , made, different tariffs, according to the estimates of what your particulate pollutants are. different estimates , are. different estimates, whether you have an electric car, a diesel car or an unleaded car, a diesel car or an unleaded
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car, 198 different tariffs and all over the country, what you will see is that you will be charged more to park your car. if it doesn't conform with modern values of saving the planet. in a moment, we're going to talk about homelessness because as the home secretary, suella braverman , said, that suella braverman, said, that people living on the streets in many cases was is a lifestyle choice. and everyone's gone completely berserk. i'll be joined by a homeless charity founder to see was there perhaps an element of truth in what the home secretary said, even if it did look a little bit clumsy coming up on gbn tonight. >> with me, mark dolan is nigel farage returning the tories only hope. he joins me live. i asked kelvin mackenzie if gary lineker should be axed from match of the day for his latest outburst on israel and my royal experts tackle prince harry's
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sensational snub of the king's 75th birthday celebrations . join 75th birthday celebrations. join me for two hours of feisty debates. 9 to 11 on gb news as
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well. >> many times we've been talking about the fact that our desire to go green to meet net zero targets is damaging british manufacturing industry . yeah, of manufacturing industry. yeah, of course, because they produce far too much carbon dioxide that of course, is if they can stay in business in the uk given that our electricity for our big manufacture errors is more expensive than pretty much anywhere else. certainly anywhere else. certainly anywhere else. certainly anywhere else of our size in the world and in america, they pay half of what we pay for their energy and it's cheaper in europe too. and the result of this, we've seen so many big businesses disappear . now, just businesses disappear. now, just a few weeks ago, we learned that
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down at port talbot , tata would down at port talbot, tata would be changing their furnaces and a few thousand people would lose their jobs. of course, whenever these plants close, all that happens is, is the steel production goes somewhere else. it goes to india, it goes to china , where the steel is china, where the steel is produced under lower environmental standards. and then as and when we need it, ship back to us, the whole thing is cracked as well. i'm afraid it's happening again . and this it's happening again. and this time it's british steel or what's left of british steel, andits what's left of british steel, and it's up in scunthorpe where they have to two blast furnaces . they have to two blast furnaces. what's a blast furnace? it's where you take iron ore and with the heat produced by coal ultimately turn it into steel . ultimately turn it into steel. primary steel . but the proposal primary steel. but the proposal now is that what will happen is both those blast furnaces will close to be replaced by what are known as electric arc furnaces. one in scunthorpe and possibly
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one back in redcar, which hasn't had steelmaking for some time. but here's the problem. the electric arc furnace may produce less co2, but it doesn't produce any primary steel. all it can do literally all it can do is to take second hand scrap steel and then recycle it into new steel, which is not of sufficient strength and quality for certain applications. we are about to become a nation that doesn't produce any primary steel , become a nation that doesn't produce any primary steel, and we're doing that. we're doing that at a time when the world has never looked closer to war, frankly, than at any point for decade after decade. and tomorrow in the king's speech , tomorrow in the king's speech, which you will hear rishi sunaks words are that we will open up to oil and gas licences because it makes sense to produce the oil and gas that we need rather than importing it. and yet you
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will not hear a word about steel . and i honestly think and i'm not one for nationalising industries or anything like that, but i genuinely believe that, but i genuinely believe that steel is a vital strategic asset for this country and to think that not long down the road we will no longer be a primary producer of this vital product i think is absolutely disastrous . yes. now we've heard disastrous. yes. now we've heard all the awful words over and over and over about just how bad brexit was going to be for the economy and indeed it is for the economy and indeed it is for the economy . and our friends, of economy. and our friends, of course, at the office for budget responsibility have said again and again that our exit from the european single market meant the economy would shrink by about 4% in the long run . economy would shrink by about 4% in the long run. but economy would shrink by about 4% in the long run . but the in the long run. but the institute of economic affairs have said that the uk's trade patterns with the now with the eu since brexit have failed to
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show any realistic impact. since the referendum . and that applies the referendum. and that applies not just to trade with the european union, uk exports to eu countries climbed by 13.5% between 2019 and 2020 to an exports to non eu countries have grown by 14.3. so you know actually our goods and services are exports to the european union are good. we are not doing on those big macro figures any worse than we would be. absolutely not. as an eu member , absolutely not. as an eu member, i wish i wish we'd taken advantage perhaps more of the benefits . now, very quickly, i'm benefits. now, very quickly, i'm joined by nick buckley from manchester, a homeless charity founder, a former mayoral candidate in manchester. nick time limited . but suella time limited. but suella braverman says that homelessness is a lifestyle choice. and of course , she is being written off course, she is being written off as being cruel and evil. is there even a fraction of truth
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in what she had to say ? in what she had to say? >> yes, and i've been saying it for two decades. there's many people on the streets who have made that choice to live on the streets. now, that's a simple answer. but then when you dig underneath that, you realise they're on the streets because services have let them down and the services that are available to them they don't want because they're not enough. so they're not good enough. so therefore decide to stay therefore they decide to stay where are . where they are. >> so the services aren't good enough. but i >> so the services aren't good enough. buti mean >> so the services aren't good enough. but i mean surely if they're being looked after by they're being looked after by the state, they at least get somewhere dry sleep . somewhere dry to sleep. >> do . but then you can't >> you do. but then you can't take drugs. you can't drink alcohol. most of them won't take your dog into the hostel. so then you think to yourself, well, what's the point ? they're well, what's the point? they're also going to kick me out at 9:00 in the morning when i'm going to lose this begging spot. i've got where i make my money to buy drugs, and it ends up being a whole mess and a whole issue for them. so they just simply go, i'm broken anyway .
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simply go, i'm broken anyway. i'm just not taking your help. what we need to do is offer them some customer service. we need to say, because we want them off the streets. of course we do. we're a compassionate nation. we want off the streets. we want them off the streets. we need fix individual need to fix those individual problems barriers that problems and those barriers that stop taking the help on stop them taking the help on offer. >> now , nick, we could, of >> now, nick, we could, of course, invoke it sounds like a long time ago, but we could, of course, the 1824 vagrancy course, invoke the 1824 vagrancy act. i mean, if we wanted to, we do have the powers to simply take people off the streets . take people off the streets. >> we have the power to move them on or to lock him up . them on or to lock him up. they're not really answer to this. we don't want to lock homeless people up. i'm running again for mayor and i've said i'm going to end rough sleeping in greater manchester in one year that's all it will year and that's all it will take, what we is we take, because what we do is we end begging in greater manchester with the police and we beggars if they we will arrest beggars if they don't on. there's no don't move on. so there's no incentive to sit on the incentive then to sit on the streets we then create a whole streets. we then create a whole new raft of hostels which will
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be with garden sheds be warehouses with garden sheds inside, and each garden shed will be an independent living pod they can store their pod where they can store their stuff . they'll be kennels there. stuff. they'll be kennels there. so can take dogs. we'll say so they can take dogs. we'll say to them, you can drink alcohol if you keep it quiet and we don't see can take drugs don't see it. you can take drugs as long as we don't see it, because if we see it, it's against the law. you'll be arrested. that that gets them off the streets. that day. and then the services is social services, health, drug services, mental health, drug addiction support work with addiction support can work with them, move them on, but the number step is get them off number one step is get them off the streets on day one. that's that that is really that is really, really interesting. >> and of those sleeping on the streets, what proportion? because, you know, i'm told that in london now for most of the people speaking on the streets are foreign nationals, often with little or no english. >> it's definitely in manchester. >> there is foreign people sleeping on the streets . they sleeping on the streets. they didn't come here to sleep on the streets. that wasn't the dream.
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they you know, they find living their dream. they came here because they were told that our pavements are full of gold and full of money. and you can become a millionaire overnight. they've come here and now they're failing. just many they're failing. just like many british end up british citizens fail and end up on streets . we're doing on the streets. we're doing none of favours by handing of them any favours by handing out tents, by giving them meal deals letting that night on deals and letting that night on the street. sorry, letting that that one night on sleep be slightly easier. well i don't want it to be slightly easier. i don't want them there in the first place. we need to help them get off the streets and get a better life. >> nick buckley, strong words . >> nick buckley, strong words. you make suella braverman look like , but very, like a pussycat, but very, very interesting . jacob rees—mogg interesting. jacob rees—mogg that was really interesting. >> really interesting , yes. and >> really interesting, yes. and a practical solution to getting people off the streets because as nick was saying , if people as nick was saying, if people can get the help, then when they don't want to be on the streets, they want to have a roof over their head, but they have lots of problems and i've heard
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before people talk about the drug issue and the dog issue, but mean people don't want to take that take the shelters that are available, are available, but they are available, but they are available if people need them. i mean, central london, westminster has a very good record as a city council of making provision people. if making provision for people. if they are willing to accept the constraints of not having the dog. >> they've got to live within the rules . yes, absolutely . the rules. no? yes, absolutely. and going to have to and jacob, i'm going to have to return to this steel and what is happening scunthorpe. happening in scunthorpe. and we're a country. we're about to become a country. if we close those two blast furnaces , that doesn't furnaces, that doesn't produce any primary steel at all. and it's completely mad in my brief penod it's completely mad in my brief period as energy secretary and business secretary, what i was trying to do was get rid of our emissions trading scheme. >> i was trying to persuade the chancellor to get rid of it because make our electricity because we make our electricity costs, costs in this costs, our energy costs in this country high it is country so high that it is uneconomic to produce steel. this is not that we're uncompetitive in terms of the companies. it's we companies. it's because we have regulations that mean that if we import it from china , it's import it from china, it's a chinese emission. if we make it
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in the uk, it's a uk emission, it's bonkers and we ought to stop these green regulations that are ruining our industry . that are ruining our industry. that's what ought to be in the king's speech tomorrow. it follows on prime follows on from the prime minister's excellent speech a few but we need few weeks ago. but we need action to do it. >> well, hope, you're to >> well, i hope, and you're to going be there. of course i'll be and be there. yeah, absolutely. and tonight on the show. >> oh, tonight going >> oh, tonight we're going to be talking proposed talking about the proposed march. and people have a right to but they don't always to march, but they don't always have to their right to to march, but they don't always haiit to their right to to march, but they don't always haiit on their right to to march, but they don't always haiit on armistice �*ight to to march, but they don't always haiit on armistice day to to march, but they don't always haiit on armistice day seems to do it on armistice day seems to me be. no, i'm with you on me to be. no, i'm with you on that 100. >> let's have a look at the autumnal weather. >> and welcome to the >> hi there and welcome to the latest for gb news from latest forecast for gb news from the met office. showers for many of us continuing over the next 24 the most frequent of 24 hours, the most frequent of these the west. the these will be in the west. the clearest and the driest clearest skies and the driest intervals will towards the intervals will be towards the east. we've got low pressure sitting to the north of scotland at the moment and a keen west northwest to the airflow driving those showers in and in fact, across western scotland, some longer spells rain expected
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longer spells of rain expected through evening . the showers through the evening. the showers will continue to feed the will continue to feed into the north and west england, north and west of england, wales, as well. wales, northern ireland as well. and that brisk breeze, it's and with that brisk breeze, it's not be too chilly not going to be too chilly overnight. we get some overnight. but where we get some shelter from the winds towards the south—east and more especially scotland , especially northeast scotland, b, a touch of frost in places as we begin a chilly start we begin tuesday, a chilly start and some mist and fog well and some mist and fog as well for parts aberdeenshire , for for parts of aberdeenshire, for example. first thing that will clear by 9 or 10 am. and then brighter skies for many with some sunny spells, frequent showers from word go in the showers from the word go in the west they will tend to ease in the later, whilst the odd the west later, whilst the odd one up towards central one could pop up towards central and parts and and eastern parts and temperatures will reach similar numbers to on monday. so 1213in the south, 10 or 11 further north. we start wednesday with a chill in the air in the east, but cloudy , breezy and wet but cloudy, breezy and wet weather towards the west that will push through followed by brighter skies into the afternoon. but also frequent showers once again, especially for scotland and northern ireland. and we keep the sunshine showers theme going sunshine and showers theme going
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through and friday with through thursday and friday with temperatures far from through thursday and friday with tempera forzs far from through thursday and friday with temperafor the far from through thursday and friday with temperafor the far ofim through thursday and friday with temperafor the far of year
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>> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight, the great john milton said, give me the liberty to know to utter and to argue freely. according to conscience, above all, liberties . and above all, liberties. and palestine protesters are planning to continue their efforts on armistice day. and while they have a right to peaceful protest, it is unwise for them to exercise that right on such a day . and while we're on such a day. and while we're told these demonstrations will be peaceful, we have often seen calls for intifada from london to gaza , and fireworks were to gaza, and fireworks were aimed at the police over the weekend . as you can see, weekend. as you can see, skirmishes unfolded with the police for the fourth consecutive weekend . and there consecutive weekend. and there is a component of thuggery in this moment. and it more than a
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few bad apples . the scottish few bad apples. the scottish court has ruled that the legal definition of gender is not confined biological or birth confined to biological or birth sex, prompting calls for the prime minister to change the legal definition stifle the legal definition and stifle the gender . the question is, gender debate. the question is, can you guess how i'm identifying today day? meanwhile, the king's speech tomorrow is set to reveal new legislation that will continue to embolden the uk's energy security , oil and gas licences security, oil and gas licences in the north sea will continue to be sold each year under the prime premiership. prime minister's premiership. but should we expect the usual backlash the zealots backlash from the eco zealots who picture in the who attacked a picture in the national gallery today ? not for national gallery today? not for the first time the home secretary suella braverman has sparked controversy over introducing new cracking introducing new laws cracking down of tents by down on the use of tents by homeless people, claiming that the practise in some cases has become a nuisance and a lifestyle choice. plus, more and more , it seems traditional more, it seems traditional markets are closing across the country. it be that country. could it be that what was a staple of british was once a staple of british culture could soon become nothing a memory? nothing more than a memory? well, man who knows a thing well, one man who knows a thing or two about the art of

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