saturday five of. they've taken to the streets. they've taken to the streets. they've waved their placards. they've waved their placards. they've manned the barricades. but sorry, guys , we're still but sorry, guys, we're still here. some of us. anyway welcome to the saturday five. i'm joined by darren albie and the wokeist man in britain , benjamin man in britain, benjamin buttennorth. and i'm delighted to say we're also joined by top comedian and all round legend , comedian and all round legend, diane spencer. welcome diane. so you know the drill. we all get 60s to outline our argument about a chosen topic and then we pile in and it all kicks off big time. and of course we want to know your views as well. so get in touch by emailing vaiews@gbnews.uk. com. and don't flummox the five don't forget flummox the five where you can ask us anything you about any topic. you like about any topic. nothing limits. nothing is off limits. benjamin's dress sense normally dominates the conversation, but other topics are also welcome. before we start tearing each other apart. it's your saturday night with . aaron

night news with. aaron >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong. the prime minister has condemned what he's described as violent scenes from far right groups, but also from hamas sympathisers. after an eventful day of demonstrations in . london hundreds of thousands in. london hundreds of thousands of people took part in a pro—palestinian rally in the capital calling for a ceasefire in gaza. one of the biggest political demonstrations in british history coincided with armistice day. marchers gathered british history coincided with arihydee day. marchers gathered british history coincided with arihydee dayand|rchers gathered british history coincided with ari hyde e day and |rcher made ered british history coincided with arihydee dayand|rcher made their in hyde park and then made their way to the us embassy in nine elms, just of the river. elms, just south of the river. almost 2000 officers have been deployed across london this weekend to prevent violent behaviour . weekend to prevent violent behaviour. rishi sunak says all criminality must be met with the full and swift force of the law . full and swift force of the law. and while the pro—palestinian march appears to have passed peacefully, 92 counter protesters have been arrested amid ongoing clashes with police. scuffles took place earlier in westminster with the

met saying the majority of arrests were to prevent a breach of the peace. it comes as the home secretary has been accused of stoking tensions and emboldening the far right. our home and security editor mark white says the police are trying to disperse the crowds . to disperse the crowds. >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main road going over westminster bridge. we've had protesters from both sides, pro—palestinian palestinian protesters , and also palestinian protesters, and also these counter—protesters here. they have been clashing sporadic early as two groups have come together . but it's been pretty together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolitan police and these other forces who are here today on mutual aid. but. it remains fairly tense , a bit volatile fairly tense, a bit volatile when people from time to time are coming together as they head for near the tube station to head home. lots of police here in parliament square to be able

to deal with any eventuality in the hours ahead . the hours ahead. >> well, the events didn't mar today's two minute silence, which police say was respectfully observed . the uk respectfully observed. the uk paused on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month to mark armistice day, the end of world war i, and to honour those who've served in conflict in world war ii, veteran john dennett said the servicemen and women who the ultimate women who made the ultimate sacrifice be sacrifice must always be remembered . remembered. >> and we must never forget that what happened years ago through all the wars that enabled us to be where we are , are like we're be where we are, are like we're lucky . and the kids i hope. lucky. and the kids i hope. i always said to the kids , without always said to the kids, without remembrance and remember it because if you don't it, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those lads who gave their

life like and it runs into thousands. >> well, this is gb news live across the uk. i'll be back with more in just under an hour's time. now it's time for the . time. now it's time for the. saturday five. >> it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm ben, leo and we're in for a lively show tonight. i can promise you that. no time to waste. let's crack on with the first of tonight's discussions isindeed first of tonight's discussions is indeed so. >> it's one subject that's been dominating this dominating the agenda this weekend. pro—palestine weekend. the pro—palestine protests, took place in protests, which took place in london today. now, our very own ben leo was on the scene . let's ben leo was on the scene. let's hear what he made of them. >> okay. let's kick off things with how i mean to go on today's palestine march in london was a disgrace. the police who allowed it to go ahead are an embarrassment and the government has led this country for the last 13 years. is a sham for allowing britain's values to be eroded away under their watch .

eroded away under their watch. and you want to tar all those who oppose these marches as far right as extremists, you must be off your head. it's been reported half of today's march organisers have links to hamas, including one bloke who now lives in a cushy north london flat or house rather, who the us accused of running hamas operations in the west bank. plot terror. get a council house. nice one. and how do these people repay us? they lock london down with from the river to the sea chants calling for the destruction of israel while excusing hamas atrocities of october the 7th. they tear down posters of kidnapped children in completely thick and ignorant to the facts, their hate filled tribalism is the very thing they condemn. israel of doing. these clowns carry signs with swastikas on. yet anyone who doesn't agree with their worldview who is a nazi ? let me worldview who is a nazi? let me tell you, today's march should never have gone ahead. aside from exposing hamas as useful idiots, it's given the green light to extremism in britain. they've emboldened terrorism. i

watch people dying in the london bridge, terror attack of 2017. i saw a young woman with her throat cut. men twisted torsos after being hit by a van on. i'll never forget that night . i'll never forget that night. all the images ingrained in my brain . and six years on that brain. and six years on that kind of extremist ism is still alive and well in britain. and we must never let it happen again . darren, do you agree ? again. darren, do you agree? >> yeah, i do, actually. and i'm very sorry that you went through that. i can't imagine anything more harrowing than those scenes, but it really does highlight what israel's just been through and how actually this isn't just an israeli problem . right? this is problem. right? this is a problem. right? this is a problem in britain. this is going on here at home where we've got people on the streets who genuinely, in my view , are who genuinely, in my view, are glorifying a organisation, a terrorist organisation that is proscribed in this country and actually seeking to vindicate the people that were responsible for the massacre on october 7th. i mean , it is no clearer to me i mean, it is no clearer to me than the fact that the day after

the massacre here is when people started coming out on the streets right before they'd even seen israel's response. exactly exactly. so what more do you need to know? i my mind was made up on these people from october eighth, frankly. yeah >> obe how did we get here? >> obe how did we get here? >> well, we got here because there was an awful terrorist attack in israel. that was prosect rooted by hamas . and prosect rooted by hamas. and then we've got two groups of people, muslims and jews, who are the groups of people in question in israel and palestine who have got a conflict. and we now have that conflict playing out on the streets london. out on the streets of london. but but but about the protesters in particular, because we all know am sympathetic to a know that i am sympathetic to a ceasefire don't think it ceasefire and i don't think it was that the protests went was wrong that the protests went ahead think they ahead today. look, i think they were disrespectful. wish they were disrespectful. i wish they weren't but i stand were disrespectful. i wish they wethet but i stand were disrespectful. i wish they we the british but i stand were disrespectful. i wish they we the british valueiut i stand were disrespectful. i wish they we the british value of. i stand were disrespectful. i wish they we the british value of freeand by the british value of free speech and bannau. i find it difficult that you say there's been 13 years of government. tory government, they've led tory government, and they've led our values and our british values erode and then you want to ban

then say you want to ban a peaceful protest. i would say thatis peaceful protest. i would say that is an erosion of british values and i can't believe if you're saying, hang on, hang on, hang on, if, if this process was a one off, i'd say yes, you know, i'm a i'm a libertarian at heart. >> protest all you want. but they've had four weeks of examples of how these people behave. >> but you to ban >> but you want to ban a protest. how does that work? >> doing is >> what they're doing is illegal. chant illegal. you can't chant anti—semitic from from the anti—semitic chant from from the river the sea calling for the river to the sea calling for the eradication of israel, celebrating the death the celebrating the death and the murder can't murder of civilians. you can't do that. benjamin, these do that. benjamin, should these protests been banned today, protests have been banned today, beanng protests have been banned today, bearing in the four bearing in mind the last four weeks, seen the streets? >> i've said on recent >> well, as i've said on recent weeks know, much to see weeks know, i'm very much to see this from israel's perspective live. and i don't share the view that those 300,000 do. that those 300,000 people do. but think there is but i actually think there is something ridiculous about something quite ridiculous about saying wrong for them to saying it was wrong for them to have protest. in have this protest. but in a different part of london at a different part of london at a different time of day, not at 11 am. on a saturday, where they've been doing it every saturday. so the fact that armistice day fell today was pure coincidence . and i think it

pure coincidence. and i think it is a british value to be able to have that protest. now, the problem, liam, and it's a big problem, liam, and it's a big problem is that this isn't a normal peaceful protest because there is a considerable number of people on this protest who are clearly racist, who are clearly hateful , and who are clearly hateful, and who are saying things that are unacceptable. and i think the difficulty here is that they have every right to do this protest, whether it's armistice day not. far as i'm day or not. as far as i'm concerned, the problem is the police don't seem to able police don't seem to be able to manage sheer who are manage the sheer numbers who are also racist. also just racist. >> well, i just think bearing in mind disgusting we've mind the disgusting scenes we've seen past four weeks seen over the past four weeks that should have and that they should have and beanng that they should have and bearing in mind, course, it's bearing in mind, of course, it's armistice, should have armistice, they should have maybe diane, thoughts? >> yes, i think that a very >> yes, i think that it's a very interesting time because you say that there are racists, but there are also people on the other in the other group who are extremists as well. and they mustn't be discounted . mustn't be discounted. >> and i think they're both racist . racist. >> yeah, they are both racists and there's a lot of misogyny which obviously affects somebody

like me. i for example, after the protest last weekend , i was the protest last weekend, i was in a service station and there was a large group of the pro—palestine protesters pro — palestine protesters choosing , pro—palestine protesters choosing , choosing to pray in choosing, choosing to pray in the reception area. now those particular services have a prayer room. it's toddington north and they have a designated prayer room . but these people prayer room. but these people chose to pray blocking a public space and it was very confrontational because they were not friendly and they were eyeballing everybody. did you feel frightened ? it did. it made feel frightened? it did. it made me very unsettled because i got glared at. and do you know what? like what angers me? the most is that i have friends who love islam and love their religion, and they make jokes. >> let me just play you a quick clip of my chat with some of the guys on the march today. take a look at this. you know that three out of six organisers of

today's march have hinckley links to hamas. >> well, that's a matter of opinion. not i don't share that opinion. >> well, it's fact. actually. i've got absolutely no problem being here today. why are you all masked up, by the way? why are you covering your faces ? are you covering your faces? >> i've got a scarf on. >> i've got a scarf on. >> this is all just terrorist acts. >> should israel exist as state? >> no comment. >> no comment. >> what do you think about the october 7th attacks? >> october 7th. i was actually born the 19th october and born in the 19th of october and my mum born in the 20 for my mum was born in the 20 for that question. all right. all right. people right. most of the people that died military personnel and died was military personnel and stuff like that. >> darren, how are we >> uh, darren, how. how are we meant to deal with people like that guy at the end who that last guy at the end who can't even tell the truth that it was 1400 civilians who were slaughtered 7th? slaughtered on october the 7th? well, really rather well, yeah, it is really rather extraordinary, well, yeah, it is really rather extraord really quite depressing. >> and really quite depressing. i mean, i utterly despondent i mean, i am utterly despondent at seen on our at what we've seen on our streets today. i would argue streets today. and i would argue that actually the frustration that actually the frustration that play out is just that we've seen play out is just a microcosm what we're going a microcosm of what we're going to ultimately, really to see ultimately, i'm really worried trajectory worried about the trajectory that we're actually on right now. and i worry for, frankly,

the social fabric of this country where you've got people saying, i don't recognise what's going on in britain, and i don't share the values of these people who want to eradicate people just because they're jewish. right? that first it's the jews. who's it going to be next? is it the gays next? and the left have got to sort themselves out on this. they're all to shop on this. they're all to shop on this point. i think benjamin buttennorth is the only one with any clarity on this issue right now. and that's not something i've said before. so i'm i've ever said before. so i'm deeply concerned and i think that just shows ben deeply concerned and i think thatjust shows ben , deeply concerned and i think that just shows ben , you've that just shows ben, you've highlighted the idiocy of these people. and frankly, the sheer malice, they don't care . malice, they don't care. >> i mean, it's not like me to defend keir starmer, but i would say the line that keir starmer has taken on this has been quite too. good >> okay, well, yeah, i've >> okay, well, yeah, let's. i've had say about the dangers had my say about the dangers posed by these marches, but do these know what these processes even know what they're actually protesting about? thoughts about? albee has some thoughts on albee take it away. on this. albee take it away. >> few ago , suella

>> a few weeks ago, suella braverman called these pro—palestine marches hate marchers. now that was completely inappropriate in my view, completely below the belt . view, completely below the belt. she should have called them thick marches because it is very clear to me that the young people out on these protests have got absolutely no idea what they are talking about. take a look at this clip from the campaign against antisemitism. >> hamas invaded israel on the 7th of october. what was your initial reaction to that? i don't believe they did it, though. >> come on. i think so. honestly. like i think i need to be a bit more clued up on like everything that's going on. so i feel like i'm not really qualified to answer that too. well i mean, i'm not sure if i've seen anything that mansion thatis i've seen anything that mansion that is . that is. >> imagine that. imagine going to a protest. you knew absolutely nothing about and then agreeing to be interviewed about a protest. you know, absolutely nothing about. i just

can't imagine doing anything, doing anything that stupid. and you see, the thing is, i'm sympathetic to a ceasefire. i can understand hand why these ladies are out there protesting. i think what is going on in gaza is absolutely appalling, irrespective of the fact that i believe israel has a right to defend themselves. what i don't understand is how women like that walk among us and are from my generation. what an absolute disgrace. but you know what? it doesn't stop there either. take a look at this woman who is angry at the government's climate change response. oh, man , i don't have a future . , i don't have a future. >> and you might hate me for doing this. >> and you're entitled to hate me, but i wish you would direct all that anger and hatred at our government when they are betraying young people like me . betraying young people like me. i would love to be there if they did their lawful duty . oh

did their lawful duty. oh >> oh, my goodness gracious me. so this woman is angry at the uk government. is green climate policy despite the fact , policy despite the fact, according to international climate bodies , the united climate bodies, the united kingdom is the second greenest country in the world. yes, you heard it . the second greenest heard it. the second greenest country in the world. imagine being so upset about being part of a country and voting in a government whose climate policy was the second greenest in the world, an absolute disgrace. so my question this evening to you, everyone at home, everyone on the panel is how did we get here? what do we do about these people? and where do we go from here? benjamin buttennorth, i'm going to come straight to you . going to come straight to you. where do we go from here? i mean, look, you know, since youtube came about, you get lots of things where people find an idiot at a protest and try and make a whole group look silly. >> many idiots, ben leo does it

on this channel frequently. you know, i don't think that you should. i mean, look, i don't share their views, the way, share their views, by the way, but think necessarily but i don't think necessarily that that we're stupid that means that we're a stupid generation that in generation. i do think that in the age of social media and i'm identity politics, there is something to be said for people feeling like they want to be a part of a group, though it's part of a group, as though it's in vogue to go to one of these palestinian marches. in vogue to go to one of these pallife'san marches. in vogue to go to one of these pal life's t001arches. in vogue to go to one of these pal life's too easy, as. in vogue to go to one of these pal life's too easy, isn't it, >> life's too easy, isn't it, for these people. they've had no struggle. they've had no struggle. they've had no struggle heartbreak or strife struggle or heartbreak or strife like the guys we've been remembering today on day. >> what would you say to people who actually dispute the who would actually dispute the point and point that you just made and said, our generation, said, actually, our generation, our generation that lived through financial crisis, through the financial crisis, then say then through covid, then i'd say suckit then through covid, then i'd say suck it up, buttercup. >> everything's easy. you got it easy. the internet, easy. you've got the internet, you've unlimited resources. you've got unlimited resources. you've than you've got more knowledge than any previous any other generation of previous passed information generation. >> diane but we're as >> diane but we're still as thick as chips. >> well , do you know what what >> well, do you know what what a alarmed me about those women was? >> i think it was a touch of social contagion, a touch of, oh, yes, everybody's doing this.

so we'll go do it. and it is worrying that there are people who will wave a placard around and not realise that by adding to the numbers they're making something look more impressive than and as we all know, than it is. and as we all know, polity missions very polity missions are very skittish and when they see a lot of people protesting, they start to ideas , which is to change their ideas, which is problematic you want problematic because you want people to stand for something , people to stand for something, gosh, the major problem, again, sadly , you only seem to have sadly, you only seem to have women in those clips and that is a big problem . a big problem. >> i stupid men in ben leo's clips which is great which is good balance. >> but what concerns me is when i do see women sort of protests in favour of hamas and i think do you not understand what strict islamic rule ? strict islamic rule? >> well, it's not the queers for palestine mob. yes. parading down the street with queers love palestine guys, go to palestine. they'll probably throw you off a building. yeah, yeah . building. yeah, yeah. >> it's completely at odds with

the thing that their protesting for. to be for. and there seems to be absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for the people kidnapped. >> darren in on this because you were in the were quite involved in the brexit there brexit movement. there were obviously getting gatherings obviously getting big gatherings of together quite of people together was quite important at getting that that vote ground. did you vote off the ground. did you ever those stupid people ever utilise those stupid people in order get brexit through? in order to get brexit through? >> not. i mean, >> absolutely not. i mean, i would take great offence, an exception to that word being used in that context. i think ultimately this is a form of luxury goods signalling we're no longer is it gucci or louis vuitton that people wear. it's been an absolute moron and supporting a terrorist organisation just to look good on instagram. i think that that is ultimately where we're at and what social media has actually done to people. i think social media has had many benefits , but media has had many benefits, but ultimately we are in the scenario in which people think it's actually good and sensible . it's actually good and sensible. all as a woman or as a queer person to come out. and i hate that use of that word, by the

way. i use that because it's their language, not mine. i used to get called that. it's very odd that that's suddenly become a badge of honour, but i think that explains all of this. it's a form of virtue signalling and i think ultimately ben leo is correct in saying that this is this is because there are no real struggles today. right? people have had it so good for so long. but i'm afraid that's all going to change. >> what about an entrance exam ? >> what about an entrance exam? if you want to go on a protest, you've got to fill in an entrance form and you get a little sticky label to prove entrance form and you get a littleyou :ky label to prove entrance form and you get a littleyou knowyel to prove entrance form and you get a littleyou know what prove entrance form and you get a littleyou know what you're that you know what you're protesting about. >> well, we've done exams on this and didn't do very this show, and i didn't do very well. would mean well. so that would mean i wouldn't get on protest. wouldn't get on a protest. >> stuff, right? >> okay. good stuff, right? still to come tonight, everyone's favourite home secretary. least, secretary. mine at least, anyway. braverman. has anyway. suella braverman. has she far that even darren she gone so far that even darren wants her sacked? the boar fest that was the king's speech. have the tories done enough to earn even benjamin's support? i think i the answer to that one. i know the answer to that one. but coming up next, diane spencer might very spencer on why she might very occasionally drive her

occasionally want to drive her car faster than 20mph. we're going up a gear here with the saturday five live on gb news .

this march have not any intention of doing anything that would . be would. be >> welcome back to the saturday five. as always, thanks for all your emails about tonight's show. so far, helen says. ben never a truer word was said . and never a truer word was said. and it's great to see you on the show. thank you, mum. rosie says it was right to let the marches go ahead and says a lot about this country in a good way. everyone is free to express their beliefs here, and there are many, many places in the world where that is not the case. probably palestine, for example. we're lucky to live in such mitch it's one such a country. mitch it's one thing to have about the thing to have protests about the poll tax this. that was a domestic issue . why should we domestic issue. why should we have about israel have protests about israel and palestine on british soil and

annie says darren looks very smart this evening. where are you going? darren why are you so smart? >> well, i'm so smart to honour and respect the people that fought and died for this country. unlike those heathens out streets. out on the streets. >> good man. right. up next, it's diane. and she's a little bit vexed about modern speed limits. go, diane. limits. off you go, diane. >> the 20 mile per hour speed limit was brought to in reduce collisions injury caused by collisions and injury caused by them. we're not thinking them. but we're not thinking about all the people who are injured inside their cars who are boredom. let's are dying of boredom. let's remember that they said, oh, it will slightly increase your journey time. oh, because that's what we all want, isn't it? an increased commute? because we all know that increasing commuting leads to depression . commuting leads to depression. anne i mean, have you ever met an astronaut at a party? no, because they're miserable. they do say that the 20 mile per hour speed limit helps health and it will make us all healthier. i don't think so. no matter how much i lower my cholesterol, i'll every time i get in my car, my blood pressure is going to go up. also the law is applied

unequally. many times have up. also the law is applied unewbeenv. many times have up. also the law is applied unewbeen on many times have up. also the law is applied unewbeen on [road times have up. also the law is applied unewbeen on [road andzs have you been on the road and somebody whizzes past you on an e—scooter somewhere between e—scooter at somewhere between 30mph warp factor no 30mph and warp factor six? no there's only one place where this 20 mile per hour speed limit should be enforced, limit really should be enforced, and actually outside and that is actually outside schools. us know schools. the rest of us know they should put the brakes on this idea. reverse parallel park it and just let the rest of us continue with our motoring. >> yeah, go on, darling. >> yeah, go on, darling. >> you had said ben was saying to me he going, i want to say things about this . things about this. >> well, look, the i literally have just been done. >> i've just been done it. it's funny. yeah. >> how fast are you going? it's going 24 in a nissan micra. >> do you know how long it takes you to get to. 24mph in a nissan micra and i got pinged for it. >> well look about 15 years ago brighton council where i live probably the wokeist council in britain the first green council in britain by the way. and they had the worst recycling rates in europe figure that one out. they were the first to introduce 20 mile an hour zones down in

brighton . they claimed it was brighton. they claimed it was for the environment . you're for the environment. you're going to be driving slower and actual fact loads of studies have shown that if you're going 20 miles an hour, it's actually quite hard to stick to that limit you're stuck limit because you're stuck in second gear. if you're in a higher gear, your revs are up, your emissions are going to be up. so that was completely debunked. cab debunked. and also i get a cab from the studio after work here to victoria quite late at night and in a rush to get and i'm always in a rush to get the very last train from victoria. like the two victoria. it's like the two minutes past midnight. go down minutes past midnight. i go down park it's 20 miles park lane where it's 20 miles an hour and if get an absolute hour and if i get an absolute square of an driver who square of an uber driver who sticks limit, you should sticks to the limit, you should sticks to the limit, you should stick to the limit. by the way, it's the law. i'm late for my train. have to spend train. i then have to spend another two hours going home because mile an because of a stupid 20 mile an hour limit down lane. it's pathetic. >> commute is massively >> so commute is massively increased? yes. >> the sake of balance, >> just for the sake of balance, i devil's advocate and i will play devil's advocate and defend mile an speed defend the 20 mile an hour speed zone because the whole idea of them, i think at least in wales, zone because the whole idea of them, italkik at least in wales, zone because the whole idea of them, italk aboutzast in wales, zone because the whole idea of them, italk about itst in wales, zone because the whole idea of them, italk about it beingiales, is they talk about it being healthier because going to

healthier because it's going to encourage people to cycle more because going be encourage people to cycle more benscared going be encourage people to cycle more benscared as going be encourage people to cycle more benscared as being going be encourage people to cycle more benscared as being hitning be encourage people to cycle more benscared as being hit by| be encourage people to cycle more benscared as being hit by a be encourage people to cycle more benscared as being hit by a car. as scared as being hit by a car. and it's going to encourage people because the people to walk more because the cars going cars are going to be going slower. they're not going to be going as loud. and it's basically people basically encouraging people into transport they're into active transport so they're not cars, are being not in cars, they are being active. the environment active. so the environment emissions and also emissions are better and also people as well. people are healthier as well. but it's a bit like on but it's a bit like an idea on whitehall sounds on whitehall that sounds good on paper so paper but doesn't work so well in life. in real life. >> okay for wales >> but it's okay for wales because wales has got ageing because wales has got an ageing population. their population is very, old. yeah, but their very, very old. yeah, but their population is super all population is super old. all the young people have run out of wales screaming and wales is full who probably full of people who probably don't have their driver's licenses must licenses anymore. we must remember that. and also, yes, you but now you might be on a bus, but now the bus to 20mph. the bus has to go at 20mph. and i've driver who i've never met a bus driver who actually wants to go where he's going unless it's the end of his shift. >> darren in it's >> darren in wales, it's a blanket or pretty much blanket. 20. 20 mile per hour ban. is that of to come? that a sign of things to come? if get labour government, if we get a labour government, are the roads are we going to see the roads here? to a standstill? here? just come to a standstill? >> interestingly, i think >> well, interestingly, i think the labour fighting the labour party are fighting like in sack over this like cats in a sack over this sort of thing because on question time and i don't watch

question i think actually question time, i think actually you'd the bbc's you'd find that the bbc's eastenders less depressing eastenders is less depressing than episode of bbc question eastenders is less depressing than butpisode of bbc question eastenders is less depressing than butpisonlabour,ic question eastenders is less depressing than butpisonlabour,ic qlisition eastenders is less depressing than butpisonlabour,ic qlis in n time, but the labour, who is in the , he is the shadow the shadow, he is the shadow minister, bryant benjamin. minister, chris bryant benjamin. his my old pal , minister, chris bryant benjamin. his my old pal, i think his brief is my old pal, i think he's chair of the standards committee. he's chair oh, he's not in the shadow cabinet. former chair well, he described it as bonkers and i thought, well good because well, good on you because i completely agree with you. it is bonkers. people are getting frustrated. and the i think actually we saw this play out dunng actually we saw this play out during covid, right. where the welsh government wanted to differentiate itself to prove devolution was doing something and be different from the rest of the country. this is what they're doing on this stupid rule is absolutely doing rule that is absolutely doing nothing for the environment , rule that is absolutely doing nothing for the environment, but doing of a lot for the doing a hell of a lot for the nation's pressure the nation's blood pressure by the nation. wales and i just nation. i mean wales and i just think it's an attempt to say , think it's an attempt to say, look, devolution is actually worth something when we all know that it's the biggest waste of money that we've ever seen. now, benjamin , question for you as well. >> i realise you've got an

opinion, but also 20mph. do we really need speed bumps anymore? >> oh, i hate speed bumps. right? nightmare. but they do serve a rather important purpose so run over so that you don't run over little kids. so it's probably worth look, i don't drive, worth it. look, i don't drive, and that's in everyone else's best interests. but the one thing i would say is that i think it should be zero miles per hour in lots of parts of cities. there should be no cars. you know, no oxford street, the main street in london main shopping street in london should cars. i was in vienna should ban cars. i was in vienna this week. beautiful all their high streets are busy. there's no cars. people around . no cars. people wander around. it's a much better quality of life . don't want cars in life. i don't want cars in cities. >> on that bombshell still ahead, benjamin reckons the king's was the last king's speech was the last squawk a dying government. squawk of a dying government. well, it's a bit dramatic, i'll probably though don't probably agree, though i don't think darren think he's wrong. darren also gets time gets passionate in grime time with fierce defence of suella with a fierce defence of suella braverman you with the saturday five live on .

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reduction . reduction. >> welcome back to the saturday five. as always. thank you so much for your emails. five. as always. thank you so much for your emails . as duncan much for your emails. as duncan says. hi pal. i lost my son in 2021. he served for nine years at tours in iraq and afghanistan. we lost him due to ptsd . i'm ashamed of the way the ptsd. i'm ashamed of the way the government let people disrespect our fallen duncan. sorry for getting emotional there, mate. i've got two sons of my own and that hits home and days like today for your for your boy and you should be really proud of him. peterjust you should be really proud of him. peter just one question, will anyone on these marches go to gaza and help rebuild homes when the war ends ? i doubt it, when the war ends? i doubt it, peter. we all know the answer to that, carol. the so—called protesters, how many of them can point out gaza on a map or know the difference between gaza strip and the gaza city? i don't know about you guys. i think we've got actually, we we've got a map actually, we should. have crack. oh it's should. we have a crack. oh it's labelled. there go. from. labelled. there we go. from.

that's where the chant from the river to the sea comes on. so you've got the jordanian river in and in between there somewhere. and of mediterranean sea , of course the mediterranean sea, which hamas supporters which a lot of hamas supporters despicably want to throw israelis in there . that's where israelis in there. that's where the chant emanates from and onto speed limits. tracy says , well speed limits. tracy says, well done, diane spencer . that's your done, diane spencer. that's your lefty mate, isn't it? >> they're not my mates. tracy i mean, we all know that the left is fractured and you can see why i >> now it's time for our next debate . home secretary suella debate. home secretary suella braverman hit the headlines this week with a controversial newspaper piece in which she argued the police are biased. it seems her job may be hanging by a thread. darren is it time for her to go give over? >> get a grip? of course not. right. and i'll tell you why. because like our viewers, i'm gobsmacked right by what i've seen on the streets today. but then again, maybe i shouldn't, because i tell you what, we had psychic suella, aka our very own

home secretary, suella braverman must have had crystal ball must have had a crystal ball polished to perfection because she the chaos we've she predicted the chaos we've seen unfold . word for word. seen unfold. word for word. picture this politicians right. and the chattering classes are having a collective meltdown over the racist parading through our streets. but hold on a minute. right. where was this outrage when there were calls for jihad, for intifada , for jihad, for intifada, anti—semitism and wiping israel off the map ? they were all off the map? they were all flavour of the weekend , week flavour of the weekend, week after week. since october 7th. the sort of stuff that also qualifies as racism . and where qualifies as racism. and where were they at calling that out? not a whisper from these hypocrites. even in the wake of those hamas atrocities on october 7th, there is shameless as a streaker at a football match. and who's the villain of their pantomime? well, of course, it's none other than suella braverman. it's suella derangement syndrome, because she penned a piece in the times about two tier policing and

these hate marches as if every tom, dick and harry on the streets today were suella disciples acting on her every word so well . as been banging on word so well. as been banging on about two policing and hate marches and the alienation of those who hold our national remembrance dear and guess what? if you ask me , she's not just if you ask me, she's not just mystic meg. she's nostradamus because she hit the nail on the head about this weekend shenanigans. we've got pro—palestine ruffians draping our war memorials in foreign flags, treating the machine gun corps memorial at wellington arch like it's their person plaything. and if that wasn't enough, we've got hamas style headbands making a fashion statement in london on armistice day, no less. we heard in that email that ben just read out how important this day is to people who've known, those who've served and even lost their lives in our armed forces. served and even lost their lives in our armed forces . and then

in our armed forces. and then there's the tale of two tier policing , a crackdown on union policing, a crackdown on union jack and saint george flag wavers. while turning a blind eye to the pro—palestine lot, launching fireworks and missiles at our bobbies. i must have missed the memo where that kind of violence got the green light. so if you ask me, i say there it is clear as day suella braverman wasn't just right. she was prophetic . the telegraph says prophetic. the telegraph says 72% of conservative voters reckon today's protest should have been a no go. out of respect . but i think they're respect. but i think they're spot on. i'm with them. i'm with suella. she saw it coming a mile off. the question is which side off. the question is which side of the line do you stand on today ? i know where i'm at and today? i know where i'm at and i know where suella braverman is at. do you , ben? i mean, are you at. do you, ben? i mean, are you unapologetically supportive of what suella braverman said? i think she's been utterly vindicated today . vindicated today. >> absolutely. and i think she speaks for the majority of right of centre brits and the fact

that all the right people have got their knickers in a twist about not only her column about the police , but about the police, but about multiculturalism , immigration multiculturalism, immigration and even the homeless tents , and even the homeless tents, she's hitting all the right notes with the centre right argument . and in actual fact, argument. and in actual fact, i want the tories to be obliterated at the next election. i want them to rediscover their conservative values with people like suella at the maybe even nigel at the helm. maybe even nigel farage. if he does well in the jungle can garner a new jungle and can garner a new base, should he go into the jungle. so yeah, i support her with with no i'll be with with no qualms. i'll be would you leave the conservative party if suella braverman man becomes minister? party if suella braverman man bec no es minister? party if suella braverman man bec no .; minister? party if suella braverman man bec no . i minister? party if suella braverman man bec no . i can't minister? party if suella braverman man bec no . i can't seeiister? party if suella braverman man bec no . i can't see any'? party if suella braverman man bec no . i can't see any situation >> no. i can't see any situation where i'd leave the conservative party. to be honest. i'm a i'm a desperate for a seat. that's. that's what i'm here for. benjamin. not desperate for benjamin. i'm not desperate for a seat. thank you very much. but what say about suella is what i will say about suella is that, look, there are things that, look, there are things that suella has said which i think totally right on. think she's totally right on. i think she's totally right on. i think was totally think she was totally right about policing. i about the two tier policing. i think look at how the

think if we look at how how the sarah protesters were sarah everard protesters were treated the pandemic and treated during the pandemic and the protests treated during the pandemic and the treated protests treated during the pandemic and the treated during protests treated during the pandemic and the treated during the)rotests treated during the pandemic and the treated during the pandemic were treated during the pandemic , totally different. police , totally different. the police were heavy handed with the women on common basically did on clapham common basically did nothing lives nothing at the black lives matter protest. think matter protest. yes, i think both protests are worthy causes, by the way. i'm making both protests are worthy causes, by ipointly. i'm making both protests are worthy causes, by ipoint that i'm making both protests are worthy causes, by ipoint that i'm rightking both protests are worthy causes, by ipoint that i'm right on; the point that she was right on that. my issue with suella that. but my issue with suella is i don't understand what the tory see in her, if she'd tory right see in her, if she'd actually delivered something other than rhetoric , i could other than rhetoric, i could understand it. but what policy is she actually delivered? nothing what has she done in her time in government? nothing. she just talks on noise. she just makes noise . and then there's makes noise. and then there's mayhem that happens around her and there's not much else. so that why i don't support that is why i don't support suella, not suella, because she's not good at her job, which is being suella, because she's not good at her secretary. h is being the home secretary. >> you not argue though? >> would you not argue though? that's there is blob that's because there is a blob that disagrees with everything that disagrees with everything that tries to do. i don't that she tries to do. i don't think it's good enough. you can't get this through. i don't think good enough for think it's good enough for politicians their politicians who can't make their arguments. say there's a blob >> well, to say there's a blob stopping or the chancellor stopping me or the chancellor stopping me or the chancellor

stopping arguments stopping me, you win arguments by making arguments, by making good arguments, having good them. good evidence, and winning them. and she's clearly not a very effective politician. well, you can't able to do can't do if she's not able to do anything home secretary. if can't do if she's not able to do anyilook home secretary. if can't do if she's not able to do anyi look at home secretary. if can't do if she's not able to do anyi look at whenl secretary. if can't do if she's not able to do anyi look at when theresa ry. if can't do if she's not able to do anyi look at when theresa may was you look at when theresa may was home used similar home secretary, she used similar inflammatory language, but she actually got stuff done. >> did not. theresa may >> oh, she did not. theresa may was as much use as a child. >> immigration was lower under theresa may than under suella structured brexit tried to stitch with stitch the country up with a dodgy under theresa may than under suella braverman. dodgy under theresa may than under siella braverman. dodgy under theresa may than under si would averman. dodgy under theresa may than under si would arguean. dodgy under theresa may than under si would argue that >> no, i would argue that actually jeremy hunt and rishi sunak wetter sunak are proven to be wetter than not as and than and not as pocket. and that's suella that's why actually suella braverman anything braverman can't get anything through. but benjamin buttennorth i actually think that you must be looking at the scenes that we've seen on our streets today and saying, you know what, she's quite right. suella no, it's like, you know, peenng suella no, it's like, you know, peering into a parallel universe where ben says that she's hitting all the right notes and everyone agrees with her. >> well, there was poll >> well, there was a poll this week found suella week that found that suella braverman unpopular braverman is the most unpopular politician in britain by quite an achievement . you know, you an achievement. you know, you talk about the canary. your

whole monologue was , look, 72% whole monologue was, look, 72% of tory voters think the protest should have been banned. suella was right. hang on. she didn't ban protest . and has ban the protest. and she has that power law . she didn't do that power in law. she didn't do it. it's typical everything it. it's typical of everything with slow sue. she says she'll do something . she tries to do something. she tries to pander to people on the right of the tory party because the only job she cares about is the next one as tory leader one she wants as tory leader and she actually do she doesn't actually do anything. if think she was anything. if you think she was right and that you should have banned , then tell me banned the protest, then tell me why didn't she? >> because she's not the prime minister of the united kingdom of great britain northern of great britain and northern ireland. you're ireland. i think actually you're proven, benjamin. how out of touch left are and the touch the left are and the labour party are when it comes to the views of the red wall . to the views of the red wall. that's why you lost the red wall and you're going to continue to lose them because tell you lose them because i tell you what, watching the what, people are watching the scenes unfold in london today what, people are watching the scerthey're ld in london today what, people are watching the scerthey're saying,ndon today and they're saying, i don't recognise own country. the recognise my own country. the people, the labour party are offering succour and support. >> the i don't recognise >> the people i don't recognise are the tommy robinson yobs

>> the people i don't recognise are “thugs. nmy robinson yobs and thugs. >> they would that have been >> they would go that have been fighting the of the fighting using the name of the senator are not linked to tommy robinson. >> they weren't opposing anything. on. anything. hang on. >> robinson was there. >> tommy robinson was there. >> tommy robinson was there. >> so how can we just say that? >> so how can we just say that? >> actually there were some really deeply quite far right and ugly people on the right that there was a couple of dozen tommy not there. tommy robinson not there. >> were arrested. >> there were 92 arrested. the rest who opposed rest of the country who opposed the should ben, the march, we should say, ben, as on right, that as people on the right, that that totally unacceptable. that is totally unacceptable. >> have >> and they shouldn't have ruined day that. ruined armistice day like that. can not agree on that? can we not agree on that? >> the police arrested benjamin just that the police just said there that the police arrested from tommy arrested people from the tommy robinson argument. robinson side of the argument. but argue that but actually, i would argue that the police have been shown that suella in that. why suella was right in that. why can't criticise far right yobs? >> they don't care about the cenotaph, they don't care about armistice they just armistice day. they are just thugs wanted an excuse to thugs that wanted an excuse to fight the streets and you fight in the streets and you look pathetic and weak to not call out people who are racist thugs who are defaming the name, call them off and i condemn it. >> i call it out. no problem.

why can't down with you go back to suella braverman? she heard you her supennoman you calling her supennoman suella that right? suella backstage. is that right? >> is such oh, my >> that is such a lie. oh, my word. she's certainly a figure of contrast. she is daughter of contrast. she is the daughter of contrast. she is the daughter of she is of immigrants, yet she is anti—immigration. of immigrants, yet she is anti—immigration . ian. she has anti—immigration. ian. she has all these fiery kind of words, and yet she does little . she's. and yet she does little. she's. >> but why does she have to be pro immigration just because she's the daughter of immigrants? >> well, because she's she has benefited from immigration because she has come to our country and shouldn't other people have the chance there would be her argument to his parents and grandpa came to parents and my grandpa came to this country legally and they were here. were invited here. >> okay. grandparents and >> okay. and my grandparents and integrated into british life. >> argue. yeah, right. >> i would argue. yeah, right. >> i would argue. yeah, right. >> moving on. still ahead, the questions flying for questions are flying in for flummox but it's not flummox the five, but it's not too to get yours in. too late to get yours in. nothing is off the menu . what do nothing is off the menu. what do you ask tonight? why am you want to ask tonight? why am i dressed like a james bond villain? apparently it's quite a nice piece myself . nice christmas piece myself. coming government coming up, the government announced week announced their agenda this week in the king's speech. will they announced their agenda this week in ta king's speech. will they announced their agenda this week in ta standingrpeech. will they announced their agenda this week in ta standing ovationnill they announced their agenda this week in ta standing ovation from hey get a standing ovation from benjamin buttennorth? i wonder? you're the saturday five

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gb news. welcome back to the saturday five, as always. thank you so much for your emails. five, as always. thank you so much for your emails . a big much for your emails. a big response to diane's rather desperate attempt to escape a speeding van earlier this evening. susan says , hi guys. evening. susan says, hi guys. i'm living in wales. i'm a driver living in wales. whilst i don't agree with the 20 mile an hour speed limit, what gets my blood boiling even more is when drivers insist on doing 15 in a 30 mile an hour zone. >> oh. thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers to you, my darling . darling. >> says. i am 50. i live >> becky says. i am 50. i live in is no public in wales. there is no public transport. it sounds a bit rubbish. my house is in a rural area. is not a good call, area. 20mph is not a good call, lorraine says. benjamin i don't think i want to read this, says benjamin is on the money. public transport are even better. walking is the best to walking is the best way to travel on lorraine. travel around. come on lorraine. >> that myself, >> i did send that one myself, but much like lorraine kelly,

lorraine is my public profile, not my real self. >> he goes on, in the future they will look back and laugh at us charging around on our own, in our little boxes , in our little metal boxes, puffing pollution. okay. yeah. richard i've richard says. first time i've watched. brilliant. good to laugh. thank richard. oh, laugh. thank you, richard. oh, right for our next right now it's time for our next debate. benjamin, and he's debate. it's benjamin, and he's going to his forensic going to give his forensic analysis of probably, in my opinion, the most boring king speech history of this speech in the history of this country. benjamin, take it away . country. benjamin, take it away. >> yes, it was the king's speech, the first king's speech in 70 years. this week. it was the last legislative agenda to be put fonnard in this parliament and almost certainly the last one from a tory for a long time. and what did rishi sunak do for this big moment, this big final pitch to try and win some voters back so that there's at least one tory mp after the next election? well, he had almost nothing to say. just 21 bills were put fonnard, which was some of the fewest ever announced in a monarch speech to parliament. and it was

one of the longest speeches he's ever given. so he says a lot, but has no plans of doing anything . and among the stuff he anything. and among the stuff he announced was saying that we should get tough on crime, that we should have longer prison sentences and he delivers this on the back of 13 years where now we are so short of prison cells that judges are having to let people out early. they're even planning to rent prison cells from other countries because the system is so messed up and then one of the big questions of the day, the nhs, more than 6 million people sitting on waiting lists. one of the reasons why we have so many millions of people unable to work because they're getting sick and what did rishi sunak have to say in the king's speech that he put fonnard ? and nothing that he put fonnard? and nothing absolutely nothing on fixing the health care crisis . this, let health care crisis. this, let alone issues like inflation or the economy . and so that's why the economy. and so that's why it couldn't have been clearer in this king's speech that this government is tired out of ideas

and needs to be out of office. it's now i'll be. you're a desperate tory hack . desperate tory hack. >> how do i know you were going to come to me first? benjamin >> what i genuinely found remarkable . double dare i be remarkable. double dare i be objective is that this really is an opportunity for the government to have a pitch to voters to try and lay out something exciting and enticing . something exciting and enticing. and i was genuinely amazed that there was nothing new in there. there was nothing significant in there . do you think that just there. do you think that just exhausted it? >> no, i don't think the government is exhausted. i do think there could have been more in the king's speech. of the in the king's speech. one of the things was disappointed things that i was disappointed not see in there as the vice not to see in there as the vice chair the lgbt plus chair of the lgbt plus conservatives conversion conservatives was the conversion therapy ban. that's therapy ban. but that's no longer happening. and fair enough prime minister for enough on the prime minister for making decision. so there making that decision. so there were speech were parts of the king's speech which disappointed about. which i was disappointed about. there were other parts the there were other parts of the king's which i thought king's speech which i thought were some of were quite good. i think some of the two that the new two bills that were coming things coming through on crime, things to arbitration an issue to do with arbitration an issue also people who were in favour

of the smoking ban, which is very popular with the british public, that was also there. public, that was also in there. so definitely things so there were definitely things in excite the in that bill to excite the british people. but the question is, get us is, is that enough to get us over at the next over the line at the next general election? and i'm not sure i still we sure if it was. i still think we need some more big ideas. >> i think it was small ideas. i mean, know smoking ban is mean, i know the smoking ban is popular, but look, it's not going to sway anyone's in going to sway anyone's vote in reality. i suspect darren, these are days of are the last dying days of a crumbling tory failed empire, aren't they? crumbling tory failed empire, areiwell, ey? crumbling tory failed empire, areiwell, i? of zoned out >> well, i sort of zoned out a little i heard that there little bit. i heard that there were fewer prison cells, but after listening to that, i think were fewer prison cells, but afte gottening to that, i think were fewer prison cells, but afte got fewer to that, i think were fewer prison cells, but afte got fewer brain at, i think were fewer prison cells, but afte got fewer brain cells .hink i've got fewer brain cells because actually if you actually argue that the labour party would make all of these issues better, you can go sing for your supper. crime and law and order in this country under sadiq khan has been an absolute travesty. theidea has been an absolute travesty. the idea that that's all going to get better under labour pull the other one, benjamin , even the other one, benjamin, even you can't sell that one. you work for a newspaper. >> it's rich, you know, from someone who voted to theresa may i suspect the only prime

minister that's ever defunded the police when she was home secretary. 20,000 police officers were sacked . so if you officers were sacked. so if you talk about why crime has gone up, which it it might have up, which it has, it might have something with that. ben, something to do with that. ben, you're sort of crazy right wing. do you think there's version do you think there's a version of party that could of this tory party that could win you over in government now? >> no, they're finished . i want >> no, they're finished. i want them obliterated out of office. yes, i want a labour government . yes, i want a labour government. i want five years of chaos under labour and that should hopefully put up the tories put a rocket up the tories backsides to rediscover some conservative , as do what conservative values, as do what their members want them to do. because at the moment they're just completely undemocratic, because at the moment they're justlisteningzly undemocratic, because at the moment they're justlistening to undemocratic, because at the moment they're justlistening to the emocratic, because at the moment they're justlistening to the people tic, because at the moment they're justlistening to the people that not listening to the people that pull the strings and are most important. and as i say, i important. and yeah, as i say, i want to get want the tories to get absolutely because absolutely annihilated because they deserve it. >> when you make an omelette, you eggs. you smash all the eggs. >> doesn't matter. even if >> it doesn't matter. even if you're not using them. >> so you would really rather keir starmer was prime minister. we we need we this country >> we need we need this country to the pain , the pain to experience the pain, the pain so can rediscover my for what so we can rediscover my for what you wish for. let's move on. so

that's for our first hour that's all for our first hour tonight. plenty more come, tonight. plenty more to come, including topics to including five great topics to discuss in bunch of five. those weirdos at nestle have scrapped mmmm weirdos at nestle have scrapped caramac chocolate bars. the snack of my childhood and online doctors are flogging sick notes for £39. has anyone got their email or phone number? you can also follow the five as well, so keep your questions coming in for that. you're watching the saturday five live on gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met those of us that met office. those of us that hold on to clear skies overnight do chance of seeing the do have the chance of seeing the aurora. so keep an eye out. unfortunately areas unfortunately for southern areas of is of england and wales, it is going increasingly going to turn increasingly cloudy rain cloudy as this band of rain pushes its way in. could be some heavy pulses times. also heavy pulses at times. also quite windy, particularly along coastal the rain, though, coastal areas. the rain, though, feeling air. so feeling in some milder air. so temperatures holding up temperatures here holding up a touch overnight. where temperatures here holding up a touc hold overnight. where temperatures here holding up a touc hold on jvernight. where temperatures here holding up a touc hold on to lrnight. where temperatures here holding up a touc hold on to the ht. where temperatures here holding up a touc hold on to the clear where temperatures here holding up a touc hold on to the clear skiesere you hold on to the clear skies across northeast england into scotland, it be very chilly scotland, it will be very chilly with some frost. also, these locations some fog locations seeing some fog forming that will provide forming and that will provide forming and that will provide for start for quite a murky start to sunday . could be quite

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>> it's saturday night. this is the saturday five. i am ben leo along with albie amankona diane spencen along with albie amankona diane spencer. benjamin buttennorth and darren grimes . lots more to and darren grimes. lots more to come tonight, including bunch of five where we take the week's biggest topics and give you our verdict this week . we'll be verdict this week. we'll be asking should the king have worn asking should the king have worn a black poppy? why have we become a nation skivers and become a nation of skivers and the most divisive, divisive topic of all caramac or animal bar caramac every day of the week, a nation decides it's 8 pm. and this is the. saturday five. also still to come this hour, we'll be joined by the lovely beunda we'll be joined by the lovely belinda de lucy, who was at the cenotaph earlier today to pay her respects to our war dead at. and we'll ask whether nigel farage takes to be farage has what it takes to be crowned of the jungle. he crowned king of the jungle. he was heathrow airport

crowned king of the jungle. he was today heathrow airport crowned king of the jungle. he was today , heathrow airport crowned king of the jungle. he was today , puffing'ow airport crowned king of the jungle. he was today , puffing on airport earlier today, puffing on a cigarette. so make of that what you will. and of course, we want to know your views as well. get in by emailing in touch by emailing gbviews@gbnews.com. and don't forget flummox five. you can ask us anything and we'll answer at the end of the show . unscripted, the end of the show. unscripted, unprepared and usually uninspiring depending on who you ask. but before that, it's your saturday night news with . aaron saturday night news with. aaron >> hello. it's a minute past eight. very good evening to you. i'm armstrong, the prime i'm aaron armstrong, the prime minister condemned he's minister has condemned what he's described scenes from minister has condemned what he's desrightd scenes from minister has condemned what he's des right groups scenes from minister has condemned what he's des right groups and scenes from minister has condemned what he's des right groups and hamas from far right groups and hamas sympathisers . after an eventful sympathisers. after an eventful day of demonstrations in london. hundreds of thousands of people took part in a pro—palestinian rally in the capital. they're calling for ceasefire gaza. calling for a ceasefire in gaza. one of the biggest political demonstrations british demonstrations in british history coincided with history also coincided with armistice now, vast armistice day. now, the vast majority of protesters dispersed peacefully around 6:00, but police have since detained a

breakaway group of around 150 pro—palestinian demonstrators wearing face coverings and letting off fireworks in mayfair. rishi sunak says all criminality must be met with the full and swift force of the law . full and swift force of the law. well, earlier in central london, 92 counter protesters were arrested amid ongoing clashes with police as scuffles took place in pimlico and westminster , with the met police saying the majority of arrests were to prevent a breach of the peace. it comes as the home secretary has been accused of stoking tension and emboldening the far right . our tension and emboldening the far right. our home and tension and emboldening the far right . our home and security right. our home and security editor mark white, has said the police have been trying to disperse the crowds. >> well , police have now moved >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main over westmill main road going over westmill bridge. we've had protesters from both sides pro palestinian, palestinian protesters , others, palestinian protesters, others, and also these counter—protesters here, they have been clashing sporades hinckley as two groups have come together . but it's been pretty

together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolia police and these other forces who are here today on mutual aid. but it remains fairly tense , a bit volatile when people from time to time are coming together for as they head for the tube station to head home. lots of police here in parliament square to be able to deal with any eventuality in the hours ahead . hours ahead. >> and now the events did not mar today's two minute's silence, which police say was respectfully observed . well, the respectfully observed. well, the uk paused on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month to mark armed service day, the end of world war i, and to honour those who've served in conflicts around the world. world war ii veteran john dennett said the servicemen and women who the ultimate women who made the ultimate sacrifice remembered . sacrifice must be remembered. >> and we must never forget that

what happened odd years ago through all the wars that enabled us to be where we are . enabled us to be where we are. like we're lucky . and the kids. like we're lucky. and the kids. i hope. i always said to the kids , without remembrance and kids, without remembrance and remember it because if you don't it, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those lads who gave their life like . and it runs their life like. and it runs into thousands . into thousands. >> and the israeli military says it will help evacuate babies trapped in gaza's largest hospital tomorrow. it comes after the red cross said it shocked and appalled by the images and reports emerging from the al—shifa hospital, where operations have been suspended. palestinian officials say a baby has died and dozens more patients are at risk as a result of israeli gunfire in the vicinity earlier today. but israel says doctors, patients and thousands of evacuees have

taken refuge at hospitals in northern gaza must leave. so it can tackle hamas gunmen . israel can tackle hamas gunmen. israel claim they have placed command centres under and around those facilities as this is gb news live across the uk . i'll be back live across the uk. i'll be back with more a little bit later. now let's return to the . now let's return to the. saturday five. >> it's saturday night and you're with saturday five. i'm ben leo and i can promise you you're in for a very lively houn you're in for a very lively hour, which will climax a bit weird with flummox the five. so keep your questions flying in. now it's time for bunch of five where we spin through five of the week's big stories and give our always well considered and thoughtful opinions a bit generous as we remember the fallen on armistice day and as people march in the streets for palestine, has the world forgotten the plight of ukrainians who died in their hundreds thousands ? and why? hundreds of thousands? and why? while march for

while people march for palestinian cause, why do we march for palestinians and not others? benjamin i mean, i think it's a very good point because as you know, in yemen and syria and so many other countries where huge numbers, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed and some of those muslim countries . countries. >> and yet, strangely, it's this conflict that people always get hung up on, on the specific point about ukraine, you know, i am cynical that there is an axis of authority aryanism between china and iran and russia , and china and iran and russia, and they benefit enormously russia from distracting everyone from what's going on in ukraine. it is you know, they're not doing a terribly good job at trying to invade ukraine. they've been struggling. is best struggling. but this is the best help they have is to help they could have is to distract the world. and you see in the us now that you've got two wars that are very expensive , for for , the appetite for paying for them going think them is going down. i think russia's probably delighted. >> there's an issue with >> there's also an issue with ukraine fatigue , which is ukraine fatigue, which is something that president zelenskyy spoke about because

we've actually had the we've actually just had the first anniversary of the liberation kherson , which liberation of kherson, which is wondrous . have we really heard wondrous. have we really heard about that in the news? are we celebrating that? no and zelenskyy is obviously very worried that . ukraine is going worried that. ukraine is going to slip out of the news and then all his funding will go and we heard that footage from the italian minister who was italian prime minister who was tricked up the tricked into picking up the phone. tricked into picking up the phone . did you see that story? phone. did you see that story? >> he said, oh, yeah, we're all getting tired of ukraine and now we're trying find way getting tired of ukraine and now we'ioftrying find way getting tired of ukraine and now we'iof it. ng find way out of it. >> and that is not what the ukrainian want to hear. ukrainian people want to hear. and bit odd and it's a little bit odd because to where because i got to a point where i was watching news about was watching the news about ukraine okay, and now ukraine thinking, okay, and now the news our country. the news about our country. what's happening in our country like, yes , this is incredibly like, yes, this is incredibly important, but what's happening and we're very focussed on and now we're very focussed on the conflict in the middle east and, and yeah, it's just completely slipped out of the news. >> well, you talked about ukraine fatigue. there isn't half of that down to i don't know if you saw that clip that did the rounds this week online

of zelenskyy pleading the of zelenskyy pleading down the camera, more camera, saying, i need more money, more money. i'll money, send me more money. i'll do it on credit. if needs be, i'll pay you back after the war. aren't we just getting bit aren't we just getting a bit bored sending to money bored of sending to money ukraine lots ukraine when there's lots of problems that we could problems back home that we could be sorting out? >> if that you >> well, if that works, you know, be asking know, i'll be asking the internet credit card know, i'll be asking the interbut credit card know, i'll be asking the interbut look, credit card know, i'll be asking the interbut look, i credit card know, i'll be asking the interbut look, i actuallyiit card know, i'll be asking the interbut look, i actually thinkd bill. but look, i actually think that ultimately there's going to be conversation on be a wider conversation on ukraine perhaps a push ukraine and maybe perhaps a push back, especially when it comes to the american conversation, because re—elected because if trump is re—elected next year , that's going to be next year, that's going to be a very different conversation to the that we're having right the one that we're having right now . now. >> e- now. >> on, nigel farage >> okay. moving on, nigel farage was fuming when it noted was fuming when it was noted that seen that king charles was seen wearing black poppy. not your wearing a black poppy. not your red one, a black one. on the face of it, it's a gesture to acknowledge the immense sacrifice made by people of colour around the colour from around the commonwealth the commonwealth who fought for the country remembrance day , country. but on remembrance day, we remember people, the red we remember all people, the red p°ppy we remember all people, the red poppyis we remember all people, the red poppy is for people of all colour and all creed. so should the king have worn the black? poppy alvi yes. >> i was delighted to see the king wear a black poppy. look,

at the day, if you're at the end of the day, if you're upset about a black poppy, i've got here. i went down got one right here. i went down to black cultural archives to the black cultural archives in today to go and get in brixton today to go and get this black poppy. and this one, too, to go understand about too, to go and understand about the sacrifice that black the huge sacrifice that black people made from around the world. hundreds of thousands of black americans, black africans and black caribbean people actually fought in both world wars and all this little poppy is to commemorate them, because often they're completely forgotten. it's not a group of people who are really talked aboutin people who are really talked about in schools their about in schools in their contribution war and that contribution to the war and that is why i think this sort of thing is should we have a look at nigel's rant about this? >> can up their >> and viewers can make up their mind, a look. >> and viewers can make up their miris a look. >> and viewers can make up their miris it a look. >> and viewers can make up their miris it all a look. >> and viewers can make up their miris it all about. well on the >> is it all about. well on the face of it's to honour the face of it, it's to honour the black servicemen that were killed in the wars who killed serving in the wars who some people believe are under represented. and you're seeing a picture here of selena cassie, who founded this movement back in 2010. but it also represents black people who fought against

the british in a variety of wars . and it also represents a demand for reparations as okay, well, we'll let the nation decide on that. >> i mean, i think i agree with nigel, but there we go. doctors have accused britain's largest onune have accused britain's largest online pharmacy of making it too easy to get a sick note after launching a service allowing people to be signed off work by recording a 32nd video describing their symptoms . or describing their symptoms. or i've got a bad stomach. if you submit the recording before 9 pm, they receive sick p.m, they can receive the sick note from gmc registered note from a gmc registered doctor the same day for £39. doctor on the same day for £39. diane are we a nation of skivers ? >> no, but clearly we're a nafion >> no, but clearly we're a nation that , >> no, but clearly we're a nation that, you >> no, but clearly we're a nation that , you know, love nation that, you know, love doing selfies and require acting lessons because before it was so difficult to get sick. note you had to warm yourself up. you had to go , and i am measles and you to go, and i am measles and you had to walk into the doctors and 9°! had to walk into the doctors and go, oh, i just i just don't think i could go into work for six, seven, eight days. >> there we go.

>> there we go. >> but now, now it's so easy. these people have got no training. i expect rada is fuming to be honest. >> ben, how many stickies have you pulled this year? >> i remember when i was a kid, the only day i ever skived off school and i made weetabix and orange threw it the orange juice and threw it on the kitchen floor to look like vomit. >> genius. see creativity. >> genius. see creativity. >> because >> and then it was because gordon was giving was gordon brown was giving was giving a budget and i was desperate stay at home and desperate to stay at home and watch it rather than go to school. goodness. nerd school. oh my goodness. nerd >> a nerd. >> you're a nerd. >> you're a nerd. >> not very nerds ? >> really not very nerds? >> really not very nerds? >> no , but look, do you know >> no, but look, do you know what i don't think we're a nafion what i don't think we're a nation of skivers. >> actually, all the evidence says that britons work long hours , work very hard, and yet hours, work very hard, and yet we're still a pretty unproductive economy . so i think unproductive economy. so i think the problems we have in this country are not from people skipping work because they're pretending to be sick or not working long enough. it's because structurally we're not very productive in the jobs we do place. do in the first place. >> i disagree. £39 for a sick note and a day off work. well, could an extended week off

could be an extended week off work depending on statutory work depending on your statutory rights. a rights. that's a bit of a bargain isn't darren? bargain, isn't it? darren? >> think becoming >> i think we are becoming a nation. i mean, we're all working from home these days and let's be absolute honest. i don't what anybody says or don't care what anybody says or if you work from home and i say this that works from this as someone that works from home week, was home during the week, i was about say, would you work about to say, why would you work from you are more likely to slack and that, slack off, right? and that, i think deeply troubling for think is deeply troubling for the economy. >> right. let's crack on with the one. we're always being the next one. we're always being told pick a side. these days, told to pick a side. these days, the never felt so the nation's never felt so divided, this could the the nation's never felt so divitthat this could the the nation's never felt so divitthat tips.his could the the nation's never felt so divitthat tips us could the the nation's never felt so divitthat tips us overd the the nation's never felt so divitthat tips us over the the the nation's never felt so divitthat tips us over the edge. one that tips us over the edge. caramac or animal bar. and i'd quite confidently say that you three at least won't know what a mmmm three at least won't know what a caramac is. you're so young. >> i've never heard of a caramac in my life. >> what an animal. well, doesn't that tell us? >> let me. me explain what's >> let me. let me explain what's happened caramac happened with the caramac bar. so look, nestle has announced that it will be discontinuing both chocolate which both chocolate bars, which one? which caramac which one would you say? caramac i'd every day of the week it i'd say every day of the week it was the chocolate of my childhood. my always used to childhood. my dad always used to buy garage.

buy me one from the garage. loved it. >> issue. it's >> that's the issue. it's the chocolate childhood. chocolate of your childhood. have continued have you continued to buy caramac children ? don't caramac for your children? don't know if you don't spend the money, then you cannot expect to have the product there. good point. that's why i like to shop in the the places that are in the in the places that are local me. that's i don't local to me. that's why i don't always things online because local to me. that's why i don't awant things online because local to me. that's why i don't awant to things online because local to me. that's why i don't awant to support; online because local to me. that's why i don't awant to support those e because local to me. that's why i don't awant to support those localause i want to support those local things bought out things. and cadbury bought out a rival, the caramilk, and that is probably going to overtake the caramac . and to be honest with caramac. and to be honest with you, it's very, very sweet, but it doesn't really taste of chocolate. >> you're just slagging off >> you're just slagging them off because fudge . because you make your own fudge. >> and i moving on and by the way, her fudge is amazing. >> she bought some in tonight top tier moving on dior has released a perfume for babies. you heard that? sorry. yeah. a perfume for babies. it will set you back. £230 for 100ml. who's buying this during a cost of living crisis? it's nice to know the obscenely rich are doing well, but even if you're loaded, who is buying perfume for babies ? albi, are you a culprit?

>> no, because i don't have children. i was going to ask you whether or not you would consider buying this this perfume for children. well, consider buying this this pwent|e for children. well, consider buying this this pwent on or children. well, consider buying this this pwent on a children. well, consider buying this this pwent on a cruise�*hildren. well, consider buying this this pwent on a cruise a ldren. well, consider buying this this pwent on a cruise a couplevell, consider buying this this pwent on a cruise a couple of l, i went on a cruise a couple of weeks ago with the partner and my two boys. >> i bought some quite posh bulgari and then i bulgari aftershave and then i got upsold. well, she attempted to upsell me some bulgari for kids , which was about £300 for a kids, which was about £300 for a small. i think it's similar. 100ml. i sprayed it, i smelt it and it smelt like the perfumed nappy sacks that you put. >> oh wow . >> oh wow. >> oh wow. >> you put the soiled nappies in. so i said, no thank you, thank you for the offer, but no, it's ridiculous. >> giving children perfume . like >> giving children perfume. like there is a point. i used to be a secondary school teacher and when they go to year nine, they suddenly all come in. and i'll be honest with you, they smell quite bad because suddenly they're all like growing and their puberty and their hormones hit and they all come in and they it. then it's they smell it. and then it's just cheap aftershave over just cheap aftershave all over the place. and that's kind of a rite of passage. but to sort of

be an adult and tell your children no, you need to smell this certain there's this certain way, there's something bit creepy about something a bit creepy about that like. that that i don't like. >> kids. can't just >> let kids. why can't you just have lynx africa? you know, it works people. works for most people. stick a bit that them. yeah bit of that on them. yeah >> let kids kids. right? >> let kids be kids. right? still tonight, we'll be still to come tonight, we'll be speaking belinda lucy, who speaking to belinda de lucy, who was today. we're was at the cenotaph today. we're going show pictures. going to show you some pictures. people were bloodied people left were left bloodied and scuffles. so and bruised after scuffles. so don't . you're with the don't go away. you're with the saturday live on .

radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five, as always , thanks for your five, as always, thanks for your emails about tonight's topics. andy on suella braverman says good to see a politician that speaks the truth for once and the views of the majority. instead of listening to the views of the minority. benjamin take note . she's more take note. she's got more balls than some of all the male mps in parliament. let's hope she becomes our next pm. well, you never these days might

never know these days it might be possible, verna says. why do the gb news panels ever the gb news panels only ever assume be assume that it has to be a labour or tory government? a lot of are going to vote reform. of us are going to vote reform. darren why are you banging on about and labour about the tories and labour all the well, because we've the time? well, because we've got in this got an electoral system in this country that simply does got an electoral system in this cou allomat simply does got an electoral system in this cou allow that mply does got an electoral system in this cou allow that mphappen. does not allow that to happen. >> will never >> that will never be a possibility large swathes possibility unless large swathes of voting for reform, of us start voting for reform, which i guess is possible . verna which i guess is possible. verna but i think the electoral system really over parties like reform. >> and last one, the most important one, i think gary says i'm also gutted that nestle have stopped making my favourite chocolate bar. caramac i have ordered dozen bars online ordered two dozen bars online and i'm keeping them for myself . and i'm keeping them for myself. oh wow. greedy so—and—so. oh wow. you greedy so—and—so. send please. gary, move send me one, please. gary, move on. former brexit party mep the lovely belinda de lucy was at the cenotaph this morning to mark her respects for the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice. i'm proud to say. she joins now . belinda, i didn't joins us now. belinda, i didn't know you'd turn into a far right yob. please explain your bigotry. >> yes. oh, i know. outrageous,

isn't it? how dare i? i felt it was really important to show my respect today for not only our fall and in the first and second world war, but those who've recently fallen in the afghan wars over 400 british families have lost loved ones, relatively recently. and they're still suffering. and i feel like it was the right thing to do, especially today. of all today's when there's a sort of climate of hate that's been going on on the london streets and in our stations for the past four weeks. >> yeah . did you have any >> yeah. did you have any trouble with the pro—palestine mob today ? mob today? >> i the only time i came into contact with them was at the victoria tube station . and there victoria tube station. and there was a moment where i had to leave the carriage because i felt some very unwanted , intense

felt some very unwanted, intense stares that felt uncomfortable. and i trust my instincts. and i got off the carriage and i waited for another one to go back. waited for another one to go back . i'm waited for another one to go back. i'm just i'm deeply saddened that they felt today was appropriate to march in hundreds of thousands like this, especially seeing all the footage and the placards, you know , they talk about far right know, they talk about far right yobs. the only people carrying placards with swastikas were those in the pro—palestinian marches . yeah. marches. yeah. >> disgraceful. you tweeted about that earlier tonight. you said suella was right. week after week, we've seen how jewish hatred and racism has been emboldened by soft touch responses . don't tell me these responses. don't tell me these protests are about peace. i don't know if we've got a picture of the tweet, but explain to us the placards that you saw . you saw. >> so these these have been going on for weeks. people who attend the marches saying they're peaceful. no, they march alongside those who carry placards like this because

they've been doing it again and again . they know islamist again. they know islamist radicals infiltrate these marches and anti—semites. but they choose to march with them . they choose to march with them. and i tell you something i did today was when about an hour after . the to two minute after. the to two minute silence, i was near parliament square and i was starting to hear football songs being chanted . and i thought, i don't chanted. and i thought, i don't want to share a platform with an energy that has felt a bit sour. i'm going to leave straight away. if only people on the pro—palestinian marches did the same, but they seem quite happy to march with haters . to march with haters. >> so the pictures that you tweeted there was one with a some a white british lady carrying a placard with the star of david that had morphed into a swastika for example. i mean, it's just repulsive . now, look, it's just repulsive. now, look, i blame the tory government for 13 years of this nonsense that we've seen on the scenes of london today . we've seen on the scenes of london today. how do you think

reform uk would have the reform uk would have handled the build up to the march? would they would they they have banned it? would they have allowed it to go ahead? what would what do you think would have happened? the happened? we believe in the right peaceful protest and right to peaceful protest and the to free speech. the right to free speech. >> absolutely. we have >> absolutely. but we would have without doubt rescheduled it. we would not have allowed it to occur today . it's so occur today. it's so disrespectful to the vast majority of people in this country, including all the muslims and hindus and all those around the world who sacrificed their lives fighting the nazis . their lives fighting the nazis. and we would have definitely not allowed it to go on today . i allowed it to go on today. i think it's disgraceful and disgusting and shameful that it was allowed . was allowed. >> who's to blame? is it the cops or the government for not pressing harder? >> i blame the conservative government for overseeing a soft touch on certain hateful ideologies that have been

allowed to root in this country and that have been given cover and that have been given cover and sanctuary by the hard left. they have not been robust enough , and they've created a climate of fear and no go areas for our jewish communities by not being tough enough decades ago. yeah it's disgraceful . it's disgraceful. >> and just bearing in mind the fact there's only 300,000 jews in this country, i never knew that until a week or so ago. and i astounded at just how few that until a week or so ago. and i them tounded at just how few that until a week or so ago. and i them are. ded at just how few that until a week or so ago. and i them are. soi at just how few that until a week or so ago. and i them are. so look, st how few that until a week or so ago. and i them are. so look, belinda,lw of them are. so look, belinda, moving on. ah, well, beating production you're production team. tell me you're making your debut as one of the five. next week. you'll be in here with so look fonnard five. next week. you'll be in he seeing so look fonnard five. next week. you'll be in heseeing you so look fonnard five. next week. you'll be in heseeing you then. look fonnard five. next week. you'll be in heseeing you then. but: fonnard five. next week. you'll be in heseeing you then. but fornnard five. next week. you'll be in heseeing you then. but for thed to seeing you then. but for the time being, you so much. time being, thank you so much. you're a legend. you're a friend. we'll catch you next week. >> so see you later. lovely. >> yes. now, ahead, folks, >> yes. now, still ahead, folks, we're to be joined we're going to be joined by bobby of aren't bobby davro, of course, aren't we? tease that. but the we? so tease that. but the i think what she was saying there, bob, belinda has saw is familiar with what diane was saying. just just earlier in the last hour.

if no one caught that diane, you were saying that actually there were saying that actually there were people praying outside of a prayer room on a service station, and you felt quite intimidated by that. belinda saying intimidated to saying she felt intimidated to such an extent that she had to get of tube station. get out of a tube station. i mean , what's going on here where mean, what's going on here where women in britain are feeling intimidate and threatened ? intimidate and threatened? >> well, it's simply that it's i read somewhere that committing an act like that is a form of jihad. >> now , i read that and i'm not >> now, i read that and i'm not saying that that is what those people were doing. maybe staring at women, staring women. >> it staring at women and no, it was the praying purposefully . it was the praying purposefully. >> see, the thing that i experienced , which was i was in experienced, which was i was in a service station . it the a service station. it was the reception their prayer, reception area. their prayer, their prayer. they're praying , their prayer. they're praying, literally blocked the entrance . literally blocked the entrance. so you couldn't go in without sort of shuffling around people, praying . and there was a praying. and there was a dedicated prayer room. now there is a chance they did not know that there dedicated that there was a dedicated prayer room and it was raining

outside . right. outside. right. >> benjamin, you're >> but, benjamin, you're muttering and shaking your head there. issue with there. what's your issue with concern praying ? concern about public praying? yeah, sorry. finish that. yeah, sorry. finish with that. apologies thing is that it was the balling because you can the eye balling because you can feel your if you're an intuitive person, which a lot of us are, you can when somebody you can feel when somebody doesn't and they're doesn't like you and they're glaring at you. >> she just described that >> and she just described that on train carriage to the on that train carriage to the point she to get off point where she had to get off the carriage because i'm the train carriage because i'm sorry, like said before, sorry, but like i said before, i know a lot of muslim people who follow islam and they're brilliant, wonderful people. but there are some who take elements of islam and completely warp it and really push it and they're the people who don't want people like me to have an education and all of that. >> yeah, yeah, totally. i wasn't actually muttering. >> i was just breathing. ben sorry about but you know sorry about that. but you know what i would say is that , you what i would say is that, you know, what belinda described with that tube train is something that a lot of jewish people have been feeling to the

extent and half of that 300,000 lives in london, that they don't leave their homes on the weekends. a jewish friend of mine sent me a text the other day and it was a screenshot of one of his relatives and she runs a small business and someone had found out that she was jewish and therefore said, i don't want to do business with you anymore and i think that situation is sadly a lot more common than you would expect. you saw it at a university in the last week or so where they refused to play a jewish sports team in the university because they were jewish. what you need to say to these people is that you are not helping anybody in the middle east by extending that bigotry into your lives. here. you're making everyone's lives harder here. >> yeah, i'll be just touching on your point of public praying. >> i know a lot of people receive some flack when they raise concerns about that mass call prayer in in in call to prayer in in in whitehall, just outside downing street the other week. i was

unsettled by it. is that a fair assessment to have when you see that kind of thing? i mean, they shut down whitehall for it, for god's sake. or is it is itjust bigoted? >> i don't know that it's bigoted . feel unsettled by bigoted. i feel unsettled by that thing , too. i just that sort of thing, too. i just do. don't know why it is. it do. i don't know why it is. it just me feel unsettled just makes me feel unsettled when break out into when people just break out into prayer in public spaces. by the way, i feel very unsettled by christians who shout on megaphones, so it's megaphones, by the way. so it's just people in general just religious people in general shouting christian country , shouting on a christian country, not culturally ben, not culturally christian. ben, but what i'm saying is what i don't like is when i feel that things are being shoved down my throat mind it's throat and i don't mind if it's a muslim doing that or a christian doing it. i don't like it. and i understand why it. and i can understand why people feel uncomfortable people feel very uncomfortable and put off by that. and i think what have seen in this what we have seen in this country in this city today, are the worst elements of society come out. we've seen racists on the come we've the far right come out. we've seen anti—semites on the left and within muslim population and within the muslim population come . and it just it's come out. and it is just it's terrifying . and it's really i terrifying. and it's really i don't recognise the country that

we're in. okay. >> lots through. still >> lots to get through. still we'll nigel farage we'll be discussing nigel farage potentially into the potentially going into the jungle. was pictured. don't jungle. he was pictured. i don't know if seen snaps. know if you've seen these snaps. they're was pictured know if you've seen these snaps. th heathrow was pictured know if you've seen these snaps. th heathrow today was pictured know if you've seen these snaps. th heathrow today puffingtured know if you've seen these snaps. th heathrow today puffingturea at heathrow today puffing on a cigarette . where was he going? cigarette. where was he going? no with the no idea. you're with the saturday five live on .

radio. welcome back to saturday five. >> as always , thank you so much >> as always, thank you so much for your emails. some more just dropped and he says you've strongly condemned the pro—palestine mob marching today . to clear, do you . just to be clear, do you equally condemn the right equally condemn the far right hate who attacked the hate mob who attacked the police? do. well, andy, if you've been watching, yes, i have already. those people you've been watching, yes, i have arrested those people you've been watching, yes, i have arrested earlier hose people you've been watching, yes, i have arrested earlier todayieople you've been watching, yes, i have arrested earlier today .ople you've been watching, yes, i have arrested earlier today . how were arrested earlier today. how many you tell me, please? many can you tell me, please? were arrested from the palestine march singing the river march for singing from the river to zero. as it stands, to the sea zero. as it stands, i believe. happy to be corrected on that bill says hi. suella on that bill says hi. all suella suella braverman is the only politician who says what 99% of

the country thinks. benjamin take suella for prime take note suella for prime minister. yes, john says benjamin is right about working long hours. i never see him off the telly. sorry about that, john. apologies >> i do apologise. >> i do apologise. >> paul says, loving the saturday five love. all the views left, right and centre , views left, right and centre, but love a caramac even more. benjamin is awesome. oh wow . benjamin is awesome. oh wow. >> this is. something's changing . how much you been paid? >> time for our next guest. albie. >> we are being joined by the legendary comedian bobby davro to be discussing tonight's main issue. of course, bobby, which issue. of course, bobby, which is our colleague nigel farage, is our colleague nigel farage, is rumoured to be going into the celebrity , i'm a celebrity. get celebrity, i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. i'm wondering, have you have you have you ever been asked to go on? well think. >> many years ago i was asked but can't because i'm an arachnophobe . i'm terrified of arachnophobe. i'm terrified of spiders . so if you want to see spiders. so if you want to see me terrified, you'd see me on that. i'll probably end up having a heart attack with

arachnophobia. is the phobia. it's not like an arachnophobia , it's not like an arachnophobia, which is a fear of trainspotters as bobby. >> bobby, you have been, i believe, on celebrity big brother. so. so what sort of thing is nigel getting himself for in here? well dodge was a strong fella. >> i'll like it very much. i did an interview with him and we had an interview with him and we had a laugh and i think a laugh is what we want really in this world now. i mean, it's been an absolutely hideous day today. i'm with pride i'm wearing my poppy with pride because whenever poppy, because whenever i see a poppy, i think old i always think of my old granddad because he was heroin granddad because he was a heroin addict was really he wanted addict. he was really he wanted he wanted old bobby. he thought i didn't quite think of heroin addicts when japanese with anyone. >> bobby but but tell us if you were going into the jungle yourself, what would you be most scared about? >> well, i'm waiting. well, scared of spiders and creepy crawlies . and maybe someone else crawlies. and maybe someone else in there that would give me the creeps as well. i mean, you've had a degree .

creeps as well. i mean, you've had a degree. i'm hoping they're going to bring in a show next yean going to bring in a show next year. i'm. i'm. i'm i'm. i used to be a celebrity . can you get to be a celebrity. can you get me back in there, please? >> you're a celebrity to me and everyone at home. i'm sure . is everyone at home. i'm sure. is there anyone you would really hate to be put into the jungle with you? >> listen. hate is a terrible word to use at the moment . >> listen. hate is a terrible word to use at the moment. no hate should be abolished. i don't hate anyone. i dislike a few, but i don't hate anyone. someone that makes us laugh. we got to have someone in there that makes us laugh because laughter is the best medicine. unless got i got. and unless you got what i got. and that's erectile dysfunction. that's just cruel. >> and on the subject of making us laugh, bobby, on the subject of making us laugh, comedy's changed a lot in recent years. >> you know, there's lot of >> you know, there's a lot of talk comedies like talk of brilliant comedies like little being racist little britain being racist nowadays. do you think little britain is racist or funny ? britain is racist or funny? >> i wouldn't classify it. i don't want to get into this conversation. i don't think everything is funny if you can laugh that's bottom laugh at it, that's the bottom line people used to be

line of it. people used to be they used to react to prejudice. now they actively seek it. people out to be offended and people go out to be offended and offence given. i'm offence isn't given. i'm a comedian. i go out. i don't go out to offend anyone. but if some people choose to be offended and you can be offended, anything offended, offended by anything you that's okay. it you like and that's okay. but it doesn't say we should doesn't mean to say we should all offended about same all be offended about the same thing out thing as long as you're out there people and there laughing with people and you're at people or you're not laughing at people or you're not laughing at people or you're creating grief or don't or violence , don't do that. just or violence, don't do that. just go out and have a laugh. and we should all be free to laugh. it's a free world. we've got free let's laugh instead free speech. let's laugh instead of , of, of. if you free speech. let's laugh instead of, of, of. if you can't laugh, you smile . so don't let the you smile. so don't let the world change your smile. get our smiles to change the world. that's what i say. >> and bobby, apart from your wonderful and of course wonderful self and of course diane who is on our diane spencer, who is on our panel tonight, who would say panel tonight, who would you say is the is the top comedian that we should all be looking out for ? >> who's the funniest man or woman on stage at the moment? >> comedian michael mcintyre . >> comedian michael mcintyre. >> comedian michael mcintyre. >> yes. >> yes. >> you know , the john vicious,

>> you know, the john vicious, but bing, bing , bang, dodi. mind but bing, bing, bang, dodi. mind you, they should bring a show back for us still alive back for us called still alive at the apollo , where we at the apollo, where we can where we can be on there with some of youngsters , you some of the youngsters, you know, carr's could do know, the alan carr's could do me. oh yeah. he's alan carr. we all good out loud. yay we all need a good out loud. yay we need to laugh . then we don't need to laugh. then we don't need to laugh. then we don't need all this grief we're watching every day. it brings people thank you so people down. bobby, thank you so much joining us. much for joining us. >> that was bobby davro, the legendary comedian. so panel, what did you make of what bobby had to say about nigel potentially going into the jungle? >> i had a chat with nigel a couple of days ago and i said, are you going in? you not? are you going in? are you not? and said, still undecided. and he said, still undecided. and he said, still undecided. and what's potential and i said, what's the potential upside and he reckons upside for you? and he reckons last year, 10 million people watched. i'm a celebrity at its peak, sort of 20 35 watched. i'm a celebrity at its peakolds. sort of 20 35 watched. i'm a celebrity at its peakolds. he sort of 20 35 watched. i'm a celebrity at its peakolds. he thinks 20 35 watched. i'm a celebrity at its peakolds. he thinks it's 35 year olds. he thinks it's a massively untouched section of the electorate that he could potentially win over and convince a good guy convince that he's a good guy and he's a nice guy, which is the truth. and if he gets back into politics, he's got swathes of then him.

of new voters then to back him. >> benjamin buttennorth isn't that dorries tried >> benjamin buttennorth isn't th.do dorries tried >> benjamin buttennorth isn't th.do ? dorries tried to do? >> i god , where do you >> i mean, god, where do you start with her? you know, i think i think nigel farage could win it, to be honest, because he is extremely charming . you know, is extremely charming. you know, objectively, that is true . but objectively, that is true. but obviously he has a programme here at gb news. and every time i've seen him in this building, he's always puffing on a cigarette outside. so my fear for him is if he does go into the jungle, how is he going to cope?i the jungle, how is he going to cope? i ask him about his pint. >> what was the answer? >> what was the answer? >> well, i said i said , nigel, >> well, i said i said, nigel, my concern if go is my one concern if you go in is that not going able that you're not going to be able to drink, you're not to be to drink, you're not going to be able and also you able to smoke. and also you won't any coffee or or won't have any coffee or or caffeine on as regular caffeine on tap as regular as you he said, just in you enjoy. now he said, just in case in, i've been case i do go in, i've been training the or 6, he training the last 5 or 6, he said. the last 5 or 6 days he stopped smoking, he stopped drinking. and also he stopped drinking. and also he stopped drinking coffee and he said caffeine thing. but caffeine is the worst thing. but actually seeing these pictures today heathrow where he's today from heathrow where he's puffing on a cigarette, i think he's already on the fact

he's already failed on the fact could he flying, could he be flying, too? >> mystery. >> it's a mystery. >> it's a mystery. >> nobody knows . diane, diane >> nobody knows. diane, diane spencer , what will you be most spencer, what will you be most excited if nigel does go into the jungle? >> to see him eat in terms of the awful things that they get, the awful things that they get, the celebrities to eat. >> oh, my gosh. now i can't even watch that programme. i think the thing when the most revolting thing is when they eat. i'm not. i they make them eat. i'm not. i mean, ofcom, please forgive me, but kangaroo's anus, i mean, but the kangaroo's anus, i mean, i believe that that is a biologic enough description for what it is. yes. and i'm absolutely repulsed by the entire programme. i saw melanie sykes fighting with spiders in a dishwasher. i don't need to ever see that again. it's emblazoned on my memory. i'm not a big fan, but i think from what i know of reality programmes, he will do exceptionally well if he's going i >> darren grimes. have you ever eaten a kangaroos aiden? >> i have never have. but for 1.5 million, which is the reported figure , he could have reported figure, he could have been you know, would been offered, you know, i would eat anything for 1.5. >> i would know on a serious

note which are the gb news presenters would you like to see go in the jungle? >> would you do it? >> would you do it? >> i would do it. >> i would do it. >> i would it. >> yeah, i would do it. >> yeah, i would do it. >> you it for free, wouldn't >> you do it for free, wouldn't you know? >> you what the thing >> do you know what the thing is? jumping out of the helicopter? that's the that helicopter? that's the bit that scares terrified scares me. i'm terrified of heights. would be the heights. so that would be the hard i'm also scared of hard part. i'm also scared of spiders, do spiders, but. but i would do that. would in a box that. i would get in a box with a load of spiders. i mean, it's hard enough getting, you know, into a room benjamin b uttenno rth. >> buttennorth. >> mean, i just, >> well, i mean, i just, a couple weeks ago was in a couple of weeks ago was in a jungle on a tropical island jungle in on a tropical island in the indian ocean where i ate bark maggots bark and lived off maggots and lived gatherer tribe. >> so i think my audition is firmly labour party conference? >> yes, it was britain under liz truss , the climate emergency . truss, the climate emergency. >> i walk. i walk to indonesia. that's right. do you >> i walk. i walk to indonesia. that's right . do you know what? that's right. do you know what? getting back down to nature and escaping all the noise and chaos of big city life of politics, i think that would be good for nigel farage and a lot of other people. all right. >> david attenborough yeah, well, that's the thing.

>> if you're going to go into the jungle, i'd prefer to take somebody who'd really somebody who'd be really interesting and fascinating, like dr. maggie aderin—pocock. she's space scientist . she's a british space scientist. and to go into the and if i had to go into the jungle, want to take jungle, i would want to take her with because then as soon as with me because then as soon as it got dark, she would know. she doesn't everything. it got dark, she would know. she doeshe everything. it got dark, she would know. she doeshe doesn't/erything. it got dark, she would know. she doeshe doesn't make ng. it got dark, she would know. she doeshe doesn't make me want to >> she doesn't make me want to watch. aslef. she sounds watch. i'm aslef. she sounds a bit serious. >> yeah. she's fun. >> yeah. no, she's really fun. >> yeah. no, she's really fun. >> we'll on on a serious note. >> we'll on a on a serious note. >> we'll on a on a serious note. >> what. what could this do? i mean, if nigel does get back into politics and the tories are fingers crossed, wiped out at the election , labour take the next election, labour take over then nigel potential over and then nigel potential early, you know, gets back into the conservative party. the younger audience with suella and pretty. then got pretty. and then nigel's got this new audience that would potentially for him. is potentially vote for him. is that a serious concept or am i just talking out my backside? well, look, anything could happen , ben. happen, ben. >> of all, we don't know >> first of all, we don't know whether not going into whether or not he's going into the don't know the the jungle. we don't know if the tories are going lose the tories are going to lose the next election and we next general election and we don't know he'd don't actually know if he'd be let the conservative let back in to the conservative party. what a lot of party. this is what a lot of people keep forgetting. is people keep forgetting. this is a man who campaign against the

conservative party for the last 30 who will 30 years. this is a man who will be against the be campaigning against the conservative the next conservative party at the next general conservative conservative party at the next genermembers conservative conservative party at the next genermembers caninservative conservative party at the next genermembers can beervative conservative party at the next genermembers can be very ve conservative party at the next genermembers can be very loyal. party members can be very loyal. they want him so . but but the they want him so. but but the point that i'm making is there'll be people, activists going out like me on the doorsteps candidates and doorsteps for our candidates and nigel the reform party will nigel and the reform party will be against us. now, be campaigning against us. now, will those people really want to let people campaigned will those people really want to let useople campaigned will those people really want to let us loste campaigned will those people really want to let us lost us campaigned will those people really want to let us lost us the campaigned will those people really want to let us lost us the election?5d against us lost us the election? if we lose back into the party? >> well, he just. >> well, he just. >> he won. you the election in 19 farage one. boris 19 19 farage one. boris that 19 election, stood down all election, they stood down all the brexit. >> i think there were a number of factors came together in of factors that came together in 2019 for the 2019 that won it for the conservatives. brexit party conservatives. the brexit party standing was one them. standing down was one of them. get done one of them. get brexit done was one of them. brexit one of them. boris brexit was one of them. boris johnson of them. and johnson was one of them. and also jeremy corbyn was one of them. and got to think them. and we've got to think about of those different about all of those different factors was round and factors was in the round and thatis factors was in the round and that is what delivered that 2019 majority quick fire majority right quick fire questions which news questions which gb news presenter you want to see in presenter do you want to see in the jungle? >> benjamin trying to think of one i can't stand. >> it to be boris

johnson. >> diane mark dolan oh, he'd be great. yeah darren well, i would have to be boris johnson i'll be who would i like to see? >> maybe tom hannood oh yeah, i'd say eamonn holmes. >> he's a legend. i know he's got struggles with his health these days, but i think he'd be he'd be great. >> i was even going to jump out the helicopter. >> no . beverley turner. beverley >> no. beverley turner. beverley turner. she'd do it. >> she would nail bev would be good. >> yes, she would be good. >> yes, she would be good. >> right. good stuff. still ahead, we asked for your questions we're about questions and we're about to answer it's almost answer them. it's almost time for the five. you're for flummox the five. you're with the saturday five live

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>> plus, sas hero, phil champion live in the studio with his memories of serving his country and fighting for british values. >> mark dolan tonight night 9 to 11 on . gb news. 11 on. gb news. >> welcome back to the saturday five. some more juicy emails hot off the press. cheryl says just asking, just started watching tonight's program . ben leo and tonight's program. ben leo and darren grimes. absolutely spot on regarding today's process . it on regarding today's process. it gives me a little bit of hope in the younger generation with sensible broadcasters like these two. you . i'm not two. cheryl, thank you. i'm not that young and i look about 12, but my true, my true age would surprise you. >> i am very young , simon says, >> i am very young, simon says, delighted to hear belinda is coming on the show next week. >> how about bobby davro the week after? he's hilarious. i completely agree . completely agree. >> he is funny. >> he is funny. >> now then it's time for flummox five. where are you? flummox to five. where are you? wonderful set the wonderful viewers. set the agenda. very much for agenda. thanks very much for sending in all questions.

sending in all your questions. first up, we have this from linda. she says, my favourite mind blowing fact is the amount of water on earth never changes. what is your mind blowing fact? benjamin let's start with you. >> well, it seems rather mediocre compared to that, although arguably that one's obvious. but >> oh, poor linda . oh, sorry. >> oh, poor linda. oh, sorry. did . the three us presidents did. the three us presidents were born in three consecutive months in 1946? >> who were they? >> who were they? >> clinton , bush and trump were >> clinton, bush and trump were born in june , july and august, born in june, july and august, just after world war ii. quite incredible . of 350 million incredible. of 350 million people and half the living presidents were born weeks apart. so who is it? >> clinton. bush and trump. oh wow. only one of those did any good. >> so not trump , i'm guessing. >> so not trump, i'm guessing. >> so not trump, i'm guessing. >> all right. what's yours? >> all right. what's yours? >> my. mine in fact, is i've just googled it, so apologies. but did you know that a cloud can weigh up to a million tons? really >> yeah. >> yeah.

>> don't mean to read you the. so it says a cloud typically has a volume of around 1000km. you started reading that before we answered. >> yeah , i think we might have >> yeah, i think we might have said no. >> did you know that? >> did you know that? >> well, no. i didn't know that. >> well, no. i didn't know that. >> i must admit this is something i did during the pandemic when i'd lost my mind, i learnt about clouds, so it's really nice. you're kind of bringing back those lockdown vibes me. cool story. vibes for me. cool story. >> apparently it's do >> apparently it's to do with all and all the water density and something to do with the atmosphere well. did atmosphere as well. but did someone you that before ? someone tell you that before? yeah, learnt it in school . yeah, no, i learnt it in school. >> yeah, think i've got a fun >> yeah, i think i've got a fun one actually. or an interesting one actually. or an interesting one australia is wider one at least. australia is wider than the moon. what >> yeah. oh, i didn't know that. >> yeah. oh, i didn't know that. >> that is good. no, it's not. yes, it is. oh my gosh. >> australia is wider than the moon. >> does that mean the moon? i'm going to sound really dense here. does that mean the moon would wouldn't fit in australia, would wouldn't fit in australia, woulc means moon would >> it means that the moon would diameter, would fit in diameter, it would fit in australia flattened it, australia if you flattened it, if not flattened it,

if you not if you flattened it, but would fit in australia but it would fit in australia width wise. so australia is wider width than the wider in terms of width than the moon, like wider moon, just like i'm wider than you . you. >> then the moon's diameter. yeah diameter of the moon? yeah the diameter of the moon? yes fabulous. takes us yes how fabulous. it takes us about to the moon about a week to get to the moon and back to your previous and go back to your previous story. what's interesting story. what's quite interesting is trump are is boris johnson and trump are both, i believe tauruses , who, both, i believe tauruses, who, when they said that there was a new star sign, they both became geminis. oh my interesting fact is about squirrels. they land like superheroes because they have to do the no, i need to show people so they land like this, like with a knee bent . but this, like with a knee bent. but they their other hand on they have their other hand on they have their other hand on the they of land the floor and they sort of land like oh, i see that. but like that. oh, i see that. but so when you you see a superhero in a film landing like that, we shouldn't face. shouldn't say ben's face. we shouldn't say ben's face. we shouldn't squirrels land shouldn't say squirrels land like superheroes . we should say like superheroes. we should say superheroes, land like was this another lockdown ? another lockdown? >> no. >> no. >> this is just me messing around on instagram, hasn't it? >> let's move. let's let's move on. good time. a question from

james. i knew we'd get to benjamin's clothing eventually. does benjamin buttennorth does benjamin buttennorth need a pay rise wearing a chunky knit under a fleece suggests he can't afford to put the heating on. >> that's a lot of know . >> that's a lot of know. >> that's a lot of know. >> i really i would say the viewers at home, this studio is really hot. so i'm not appropriately dressed at all. but do you know what at home, i'm a real stickler. i do not want put the heating i'll want to put the heating on. i'll just layers and layers on or just put layers and layers on or a night. a thicker duvet at night. i can't wasting on can't bear wasting money on heating. oh yeah. >> that green crap to come >> all that green crap to come about . about though. >> he wants to make energy bills even higher. >> well, i also, you know, i think i look great. i haven't come as a james bond villain like. like ben, unfortunately. well like i said, it's christmas. >> i'm doing my think >> i'm doing my part. i think all we some mulled wine all we need is some mulled wine and mince pies. and some mince pies. >> and what's christmas about what ? what you're wearing? >> dictate when >> look, i don't dictate when christmas starts, but went christmas starts, but i went to a shop yesterday they were a shop yesterday and they were banging spa, i think. banging out. is a spa, i think. banging carols. banging out christmas carols. and woman behind and i said to the woman behind the why are you playing

the counter, why are you playing christmas it's christmas carols? she said, it's either management either she said, management said, christmas said, either we play christmas carols at so carols or no music at all. so what's christmassy about a turtleneck? well, itjust turtleneck? yeah, well, it just looks a bit, i don't know, a bit sophisticated, right? >> like christmas. >> like christmas. >> brilliant >> that was a brilliant explanation to woman and a gay explanation to a woman and a gay man. yes very, very sophisticated. done . sophisticated. well done. >> well, i'm the only straight man here, so it was a different kind excuse kind of style. excuse me. >> blowing is that >> my mind blowing fact is that i'm not even gay. i just do it. >> i wouldn't surprise me. right next to have you on a question from freddy. oh, freddy, you keep sending us maths questions. please stop . right. it says what please stop. right. it says what have we got this week, freddy? but here's another massive question for you. what is minus two, two times minus two . two. two, two times minus two. two. >> it's minus four, isn't it? >> it's minus four, isn't it? >> i'll just repeat that for the radio listeners. what is minus two times minus two, minus two. >> i thought it was minus four. >> i thought it was minus four. >> is it four. >> is it four. >> yeah. because it would be it would make it a positive wouldn't it. >> i think it might be four as opposed to a minus. >> yes. >> yes. >> does anyone know? the answer

is minus minus two. >> minus times. minus two. surely that's minus four. >> a g in gcse maths so >> i got a g in gcse maths so don't look at me for the answer. >> i didn't even know you could geta for g help him. >> a for g god help him. >> a for g god help him. >> me, let me, let me just >> let me, let me, let me just summon the maths gods in my ear. the answer is what's answer the answer is what's your answer for it's definitely not >> well, it's definitely not minus minus four for the answer is four. >> yes. yes >> yes. yes >> oh, nuts. my dad's watching this. oh freddie, no more maths question, please . question, please. >> is next a question from ian . >> is next a question from ian. this is a very important one. i think it says, i've searched everywhere today to try and buy a caramac. well, who was the guy who had about two weeks worth who had about two weeks worth who e—mailed an earlier get in contact with him? i tried to buy a caramac and have lots of places. sorry, lots of places have out them. you have sold out of them. can you help ? oh, yeah. look, like help? oh, yeah. look, like i just said , need ian just said, we need to hook ian up the guy who emailed just said, we need to hook ian up who's|uy who emailed just said, we need to hook ian up who's stashingemailed just said, we need to hook ian up who's stashing them d just said, we need to hook ian up who's stashing them for earlier who's stashing them for all himself. >> i hope this really tells people they like people that if they like something wrong, they need to buy can't wait until buy it. they can't wait until it's at risk of being taken away

from they have to seize it from them. they have to seize it now. >> do think this could be an >> do you think this could be an elaborate owners elaborate plan from the owners of caramac everyone of caramac to get everyone talking caramac and buying talking about caramac and buying the so that start the caramac so that they start doing better and then everyone eats caramac again? >> it could be double. >> it could be a double. >> it could be a double. >> caramac >> i didn't know what a caramac was might go was until today. now i might go and buy one. >> but then there's the alternative. >> what's it called? >> what's it called? >> caprice caramilk caramilk. >> what's with caramilk? >> don't believe >> oh no, i don't believe there's anything with it. >> oh no, i don't believe thelieveiything with it. >> oh no, i don't believe thelieve it's ing with it. >> oh no, i don't believe thelieve it's ag with it. >> oh no, i don't believe thelieve it's a contender th it. >> oh no, i don't believe thelieve it's a contender fort. i believe it's a contender for the believe that the caramac. i believe that cadbury's, had cadbury's, who probably had their internal people spot the caramac sales, were down and they right, let's bring in they went, right, let's bring in a tell you what, next a well, i'll tell you what, next week we need do a taste test, week we need to do a taste test, don't we? >> down, your >> track one down, get your mates to send us through mates to send us some through caramac from caramac and then we'll go from there . there. >> okay. and quick , quick last >> okay. and quick, quick last one. i can't wait to see one. who i can't wait to see nigel on. i'm a celebrity. if he makes it, i think he'll romp it. who would the fab five like to see we've done see in the jungle? we've done presenters. else you presenters. who else would you like the jungle? like to see in the jungle? darren, are we quickly? >> first? beyonce. >> first? beyonce. >> look, think >> darren, look, i think bobby davro has to go in. >> he's hilarious.

>> he's hilarious. >> i. >> oh, i. >> oh, i. >> that bloke tom cruise. oh that bloke. >> think i'll do it. you. oh >> i think i'll do it. you. oh because tom cruise for the money on that bombshell. >> thank you to our guests tonight the brilliant diane spencen tonight the brilliant diane spencer. come and again spencer. come and see us again very i next up, it's very soon, i hope. next up, it's the brilliant mark dolan . thanks the brilliant mark dolan. thanks for watching. we'll see you again next week at the same time now let's get your latest weather wrap up. stay warm. it's going to be a cold one. oh hello there. >> i'm jonathan vautrey here of your weather forecast your gb news weather forecast provided met office. provided by the met office. those that hold on to those of us that hold on to clear overnight do have clear skies overnight do have the chance of seeing aurora. the chance of seeing the aurora. so keep an eye out. unfortunately areas unfortunately for southern areas of wales, of england and wales, it is going turn increasingly going to turn increasingly cloudy band rain cloudy as this band of rain pushes its way in. could be some heavy times. also pushes its way in. could be some heavywindy, times. also pushes its way in. could be some heavywindy, particularlyilso pushes its way in. could be some heavywindy, particularly along quite windy, particularly along coastal rain, though, coastal areas. the rain, though, feeling some milder air. so feeling in some milder air. so temperatures up temperatures here holding up a touch more overnight. but where you to the clear skies you hold on to the clear skies across northeast england into scotland, very chilly scotland, it will be very chilly with some also, these with some frost. also, these locations fog locations seeing some fog forming that provide forming and that will provide forming and that will provide for start to for quite a murky start to sunday morning . could quite sunday morning. could be quite

slow lasting until the slow to clear, lasting until the start of the afternoon in some places. once does places. but once it does leave, it's off. will be some it's way off. there will be some sunny scotland and sunny spells for scotland and northeast england. elsewhere, this band of rain pushing its way pulses following on way in heavy pulses following on behind that as well. perhaps lighter patchy for parts of lighter and patchy for parts of east but still fairly east england, but still fairly cloudy throughout a good portion of the day. temperatures generally between 7 and 13 c. but feeling particularly cold where does linger where the fog does linger for a good portion day. on good portion of the day. on monday attention to monday, our attention returns to this of low pressure. there this area of low pressure. there is still some uncertainty regards to how the jet stream is going help spin this up and going to help spin this up and develop it does look going to help spin this up and dev(itip it does look going to help spin this up and dev(it could it does look going to help spin this up and dev(it could be it does look going to help spin this up and dev(it could be a does look going to help spin this up and dev(it could be a prettyook going to help spin this up and dev(it could be a pretty widely like it could be a pretty widely unsettled day this of like it could be a pretty widely unsettrainiay this of like it could be a pretty widely unsettrain moving this of like it could be a pretty widely unsettrain moving itss of like it could be a pretty widely unsett rain moving its way of heavy rain moving its way through, followed by some bluster that, a bluster showers behind that, a swathe pushing across swathe of gales pushing across areas england and wales, areas of england and wales, quite across northern quite breezy across northern areas scotland well. areas of scotland as well. the precipitation, showery here precipitation, more showery here and the middle part of the and into the middle part of the week as well. we will hold on to a theme with a fairly unsettled theme with sunshine

at ten. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister has condemned what he's described as violent from right violent scenes from far right groups sympathisers . groups and hamas sympathisers. hours after eventful day of hours after an eventful day of demonstrate in london, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousandsin london, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands oflondon, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people tookireds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people took part of thousands of people took part in a pro—palestinian rally in the capital calling for a ceasefire in gaza, which also coincided with armistice day. now the vast majority dispersed peacefully around 6:00, but police officers detained a breakaway group of around 150 people wearing face coverings and letting off fireworks in mayfair . with further clashes mayfair. with further clashes taking place near victoria station. a number of arrests were made. rishi sunak says all criminality must be met with the full and swift force of the law . full and swift force of the law. meanwhile, the assistant commissioner of the met police has described extreme violence from far right demonstrators towards officers protecting the cenotaph as extraordinary and deeply concerning. matt twist said a group of counter—protesters were largely intoxicated, aggressive football hoougans intoxicated, aggressive football hooligans who spent most of the

day attacking or threatening officers seeking to prevent them from confronting the main march . from confronting the main march. 92 people were arrested . mr 92 people were arrested. mr twist also said the intense debate about protest and policing has contributed to an increase in tension. the home secretary has been accused of stoking tension and emboldening the far right. she described pro—palestinian rallies as hate marches this week , our home and marches this week, our home and security editor mark white sent this report from westminster . this report from westminster. >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main road going over westminster bridge. we've had protesters from both sides, pro—palestinian palestinian protesters and also these counter—protesters here. they have been clashing sporadically . as two groups have sporadically. as two groups have come together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolitan police and these other forces who are here today on mutual aid. but it remains was fairly tense, a bit volatile

, while when people from time to