mp for somerset, jacob the mp for somerset, jacob rees—mogg. what a day . what rees—mogg. what a day. what news? who could have believed it ? the return of who ? david? no, ? the return of who? david? no, sorry, lord david cameron how does that sound to you? the demolition, the removal of suella braverman many will be upset about that. and then where is nigel? well, news is breaking where nigel is. you know, the referendum was a long time ago . referendum was a long time ago. >> there are a lot of young people out there. don't know who i am. don't know what i stand for. this is my big chance to reach a really big audience of young people, which i think will be good for me and i think also very good for gb news as well . very good for gb news as well. >> hard to reach a bigger audience surely, than gb news, but we'll get into that later. first of all, folks, it's the news with polly middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst.

well, the top story this hour, it's been a day of reappointments and surprises in downing street today. >> the prime minister saying the new cabinet is built and it is a united team. well, gb news presenter and former housing minister esther mcvey was seen walking into downing street this evening. and since then we have learned she has been appointed to cabinet as minister without portfolio, the so—called minister for common sense is what is being suggested about her role . meanwhile, victoria her role. meanwhile, victoria atkins is the new health secretary. she replaces steve barclay, who takes environment while laura trott steps in as treasury chief secretary, but also in the government reshuffle today. richard holden , the new today. richard holden, the new chair of the conservative party and a former prime minister making a surprise return to downing street. yes, lord david cameron is our new foreign secretary, seven years after he left the job in number 10 as prime minister, he replaces james cleverly, who takes up the

home secretary portfolio. and that's after suella braverman was sacked by the prime minister, we understand by telephone early on this morning , telephone early on this morning, ending days of speculation about her job security in government. meanwhile the new foreign secretary says he is delighted to be back in government . i hope to be back in government. i hope that six years as prime minister, 11 years leading the conservative party, gives me some useful experience and contacts and relationships and knowledge that i can help the prime minister to make sure we build our alliances. >> we build partnerships with our friends, we deter our enemies, and we keep our country strong. that's why i'm doing the job and i'm delighted to accept lord david cameron speaking there. >> well, his return not without controversy. today, some suggesting he won't, for example, be facing regular grilling from mps and lord cameron's position. meanwhile in the house of lords means he's exempt from regular sessions of

foreign office questions. junior ministers will be fielding those questions instead and answering another point of controversy , another point of controversy, number 10 has said today he won't be drawing an attendance salary for the house of lords while he's in the foreign secretary's job. and as that reshuffle took place today, the government said it was also working hard to strengthen police powers following the weekend's march . his reports weekend's march. his reports suggest it's going to be easier following the government's work to ban marches and prosecute those supporting or even glorifying terrorism . the prime glorifying terrorism. the prime minister says he plans to meet with the met police commissioner sir mark rowley, in the coming days. sir mark rowley, in the coming days . we know officers made days. we know officers made a total of 145 arrests at the weekend . and lastly , the funeral weekend. and lastly, the funeral of sir bobby charlton has taken place in manchester cathedral today. and the prince of wales was in attendance , as well as was in attendance, as well as former manchester united manager sir alex ferguson , who is there sir alex ferguson, who is there as well. friends and fans gathered to bid sir bobby

farewell. thousands lining the streets near old trafford . the streets near old trafford. the football great made 7758 appearances for manchester united, of course, helping to win the european cup in 1968, as well as leading england to victory in the world cup in 1966. sir bobby charlton, whose funeral was held today . you're funeral was held today. you're with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . well britain's news channel. well today has been a shocking day in the world of politics, not least the world of politics, not least the return of former prime minister david cameron, rejected by the british people in 2016. >> he's back as foreign secretary. the day started with the sacking of suella braverman as home secretary following a weekend of clashes between pro—palestinian demonstrators and counter—protesters in

london. well to get some of the day so far, let's go live now to katherine forster, our political correspondent, for the latest. catherine over to you . catherine over to you. >> yes, it's been an incredible day here in westminster. sure many predicted the sacking of suella braverman that kicked off events this morning. it was widely expected many conservative mps , especially on conservative mps, especially on the right, are absolutely horrified by this. think it's absolutely the wrong call that she spoke for many, many people. but there's plenty of other tory mps. one nation conservatives in particular. they're very happy indeed about this. but i think what no one saw coming was david cameron, former prime minister, who took us into that brexit referendum with no plan apparently, on what would happen if we actually voted to leave , if we actually voted to leave, coming back into high office as foreign sex lottery. really an astonishing turn of events.

james cleverly who had been foreign secretary, a job he loved, a job he said he'd have to be dragged out by the fingernails to leave. now now, of course, home secretary and in charge now of stopping the boats. we've got that huge moment , boats. we've got that huge moment, haven't boats. we've got that huge moment , haven't we, boats. we've got that huge moment, haven't we, on boats. we've got that huge moment , haven't we, on wednesday moment, haven't we, on wednesday when the supreme court is due to rule on rwanda ? but rishi sunak, rule on rwanda? but rishi sunak, we've been used to him being cautious as we've been used to him being very careful. we've heard about rishi sunak resets after the summer, then there was the conference speech. then there was the king's speech. nothing really seemed to change the dial. still 20 points behind in the polls. he came in, didn't he, to steady the ship . but a he, to steady the ship. but a year on, it seems like that ship is still heading for the rocks. so he had to do something. other big moves. steve barclay has gone to be environment secretary. that's freed up health for victoria. atkins will she have more luck in getting

the waiting list down? will she be able to finally bring an end to the doctors strikes? he's also brought in loyalists like laura trott , a big promotion for laura trott, a big promotion for her. she's now chief secretary to the treasury. she only came in in 2019. richard holden also now party chairman. again, he only came in in 200918. so now party chairman. again, he only came in in 2009 18. so lots of changes , but a feeling that of changes, but a feeling that rishi sunak has decided to take the party back towards the centre ground now that might buy him some votes, possibly in the blue wall, but of course there's the potential for him to lose a lot of votes up in the red wall. let's see what happens in the polls in the next few days. who will indeed? >> thank you, catherine. now, before i go to our panel, we're asking you at home, is this is this the return the remain this the return of the remain us? email farage at gbnews.com or on x or twitter in old money use hashtag nigel farage on gb

news. now join me to join me to react this crazy day in british politics is richard tice, gb news, presenter and leader of reform uk. good evening, richard and jacob rees—mogg gb news presenter and of course tory mp for north east somerset. now to jacob you first. are you really offended by the fact that your leader , rishi sunak, can find no leader, rishi sunak, can find no mp good enough to be foreign secretary ? you've got to go back secretary? you've got to go back into the annals of history to a guy who wasn't even a peer and make him foreign secretary. what's with you? you what's wrong with you? are you particularly or other people, other mps? i'm not offended. >> i don't think it's right to take at these things. take offence at these things. >> got confidence in his >> he's got no confidence in his own is he? own mps, is he? >> well, i think there's an issue for rishi sunak himself because david cameron still looks minister looks very prime minister doesn't he out doesn't he, that when he got out of that everyone's of that car, to everyone's surprise, it was exciting moment. nobody it moment. nobody thought it was going david cameron going going to be david cameron going in. you suddenly thought that was walking up to was prime minister walking up to downing cameron downing street and cameron actually policy was actually in domestic policy was actually in domestic policy was a pretty successful prime minister he got the deficit

down. he reformed welfare, he reformed education. charleton with the lib dems in coalition. interestingly, the bits where there wasn't so much success, at least from his point of view, it was in foreign policy where he didn't get a great negotiation renegotiation from europe. we had obviously the syrian problem and disaster in libya. and the disaster in libya. >> so and fascinating and also friendly which is an friendly with china, which is an issue china. issue in china. >> so it's fascinating that somebody who has actually a very successful domestic politician and a not very successful foreign affairs come in as foreign affairs one's come in as foreign affairs one's come in as foreign richard tice foreign secretary richard tice your leader reform uk are you your leader of reform uk are you are you is your email queue bulging with people trying to join former tories? >> the truth is that our server has almost exploded, loaded with fury at what has happened today with the return of david cameron. let's remember this is the gentleman who campaigned against brexit and almost everything that he did on foreign policy as jacobs just touched on, was wrong. i mean, he was wrong in his negotiations with russell's. he was wrong to

kowtow to china. he was wrong to get close to russia and to try and encourage it. he's very pro net zero. he's very pro immigration. he's very pro more foreign aid. these are all the things that actually those who voted for brexit and who voted to get brexit done and wanted it done proper . see, these are all done proper. see, these are all things that are fair, though he wanted to cut anathema, he wanted to cut anathema, he wanted to cut migration to tens of thousands, didn't he? so he said, actually put in said, but actually he put in place essentially the events that complete that led to the complete opposite. and he's never opposite. and and he's never really no one really believed it. no one believes he actually meant believes that he actually meant that. believes that he actually meant tha i've always thought he's a >> i've always thought he's a secret , though. i secret brexiteer, though. i mean, when i've met jacob mean, when i've met him, jacob rees—mogg, he's always me rees—mogg, he's always struck me as someone who quite quietly believes in brexit but couldn't admit it and never has done since no, i think that's since then. no, i think that's clearly not true. >> okay. think he went >> okay. that i think he went through motions of making through the motions of making eurosceptic noises. but i remember negotiation with remember in the negotiation with brussels, never say brussels, he would never say that he was willing to lead the leave campaign in the event he didn't get what he wanted and he

went along with the project. fear of the remain campaign. that was hopeless , in my view, that was hopeless, in my view, and actually boosted the leave vote. but nonetheless, he went along with it and he was absolutely delighted , as were absolutely delighted, as were his in street when his team in downing street when barack obama along and told barack obama came along and told us back of the us we'd be at the back of the queue. no, no, he's a queue. so no, no, he's a committed pro—european who has now foreign secretary. now been made foreign secretary. fortunately, left fortunately, we've already left the union. the problem the european union. the problem here, the that , here, but the reality that, chris, that when he chris, is that when he negotiated with brussels , he negotiated with brussels, he didn't negotiate the most important thing to so many people, particularly in the red wall, which was freedom of movement controlled immigration, he didn't even try. >> if he had tried, if he'd been in touch with the concerns of the british people, then things may have ended quite differently. i think that proves that actually he's basically pro reasonable , large scale reasonable, large scale immigration. and what we've now got is we've got a prime minister that's basically ditched the red wall and i think is focusing on his core solid .

is focusing on his core solid. >> he's brought in a chairman from the red wall. well, richard holden is the mp for north west durham. the seats are being abolished, but he's a red wall mp. >> but let's remember we've now got a foreign secretary who's basically a remainer. we've got a secretary that a new health secretary that nobody's who's nobody's ever heard of, who's also remainer. so he's bolster also a remainer. so he's bolster also a remainer. so he's bolster a cabinet of remainers when he claims to be the new man of change. but actually the changes , we've gone backwards a number of years to bring in someone who , as jacob said, looked prime ministerial. i'm not sure that's actually the way fonnard. that's not a change of direction for the future. >> jacob rees—mogg you've got a pm here. rishi sunak appointed by your colleagues, not by you, by your colleagues, not by you, by colleagues of yours. he has appointed his own, his own by colleagues of yours. he has appointhecretary.|, his own by colleagues of yours. he has appointhecretary. where'sn by colleagues of yours. he has appointw secretary. where's the foreign secretary. where's the democracy in i mean, is democracy in this? i mean, is this not moving further this party not moving further and further away from the mandate of the people who elected in 2019? >> i think that's a very important point. it's one i actually when people were actually raised when people were manoeuvring against boris johnson. the mandate has johnson. i think the mandate has become increasingly personal,

and i think gordon brown made a mistake in not having a general election when he became prime minister and had it not been for the interruption of the fixed—term parliaments act, i think we were moving to a constitutional position where a new prime minister needed a new mandate. certainly mandate. i you're certainly right issues the right to raise issues about the mandate exists . mandate that currently exists. >> it's big worry, isn't it? >> it's a big worry, isn't it? >> it's a big worry, isn't it? >> richard tice i think it is, actually. this whole democrat deficit, that you've deficit, the fact that you've got minister that got this prime minister that basically nobody voted for, you've got a foreign secretary thatis you've got a foreign secretary that is unaccountable to the mps in the house of commons. i mean, that has happened before. jacob will be well aware of the precedent, but no one's very comfortable with it, particularly at a time of such international stress with ukraine, with russia, with the middle east and actually the foreign secretary should be answerable to the mps in the house of commons and i do actually feel that it is a huge slight on all of the conservative mps that the prime minister has concluded . no one, minister has concluded. no one, frankly, is good enough for this

serious job and actually i think many people would say that james cleverly was doing a very solid and sound job. and no. one, it's not an easy job at the best of times, but particularly in this times, but particularly in this time of stress . time of stress. >> jacob rees—mogg, we heard last month in me how the pm, rishi sunak, was trying to move away from the record of the government so far, the tory government so far, the tory government going back 30 years of course, and part long, part large part of that was part of the government your old the government run by your old etonian mate, david cameron. well marvellous have well it is marvellous to have another back in the cabinet. >> long gap not been a one been one year gap. when i went there was no old etonian. now we've got one back. i'm delighted by that. the best thing about cameron being appointed, to cameron being appointed, but to move point, there move to the serious point, there is a delicious irony prime is a delicious irony in a prime minister making a speech about being the candidate for change. and week later, a month later, and a week later, a month later, bringing former prime bringing back a former prime minister. our minister. we'll remind our viewers said then . viewers what was said then. >> politics doesn't work the way it should . we've had 30 years of

it should. we've had 30 years of a political system which incentivises the easy decision, not the right one for 30 years of vested interests standing in the way of change. 30 years of rhetorical ambition which achieves little more than a short term headline . and why ? short term headline. and why? because our political system is too focussed on short term advantage , not long term advantage, not long term success. politics has spent more time campaigning for change than actually delivering it . it actually delivering it. it doesn't have to be this way. i won't be this way. conference or our mission is to fund mentally change our country. >> richard tice change our country by reappointing a former prime minister. >> i'm going to take that slogan that says long term decisions for a brighter view. i think it's short term decisions to take us backwards. i mean, the whole thing is extraordinary. absolutely extraordinary. here's the other extraordinary thing i've fairly good i've got it on fairly good sources that david cameron, now

lord cameron, we must remember, was not the first choice for the prime minister really. apparently the rumour is that he phoned william hague. lord hague, i must get this right to see if he wanted the job. the answer was thanks, but no thanks. dave. thanks. called dave. >> gracious. >> goodness gracious. >> goodness gracious. >> apparently is how this transpired. that it's not a surprise though. >> jacob rees—mogg, because of course gave the course william hague gave the seat to rishi sunak back in 2015. >> well, i understand that they get on very well and william hague very he's a mentor to hague is very he's a mentor to able politician, is david able politician, as is david cameron. butjust able politician, as is david cameron. but just think, able politician, as is david cameron. butjust think, if it hadn't, cameron had hadn't, if david cameron had said had been theresa hadn't, if david cameron had said if had been theresa hadn't, if david cameron had said if theresa jeen theresa hadn't, if david cameron had said if theresa may theresa hadn't, if david cameron had said if theresa may had esa hadn't, if david cameron had said if theresa may had said no, may. if theresa may had said no, bofis may. if theresa may had said no, boris back, which i might have preferred all truss or liz preferred all liz truss or liz truss. brilliant. yes >> that conference >> back about that conference speech saw then course speech we saw then of course that conference defined by that conference was defined by axing leg to manchester. axing the hs2 leg to manchester. that was attacked at the time by david cameron. if you remember, he tweeted today's decision on hs2 was the wrong one. it will help the of those who help fuel the views of those who argue that we can no longer think for long term as a think or act for long term as a country, that are heading in

think or act for long term as a cou wrong|at are heading in think or act for long term as a cou wrong direction. heading in think or act for long term as a cou wrong direction. welliing in have. >> i mean, that's extraordinary. >> i mean, that's extraordinary. >> that's a most sympathy on that, because i was briefly bound by collective responsibility, always bound by collective respo against, always been against hs2. >> thought it was idiotic. but >> i thought it was idiotic. but when a minister, i had to when i was a minister, i had to talk an awful lot of nonsense about hs2. do lie to people about hs2. do you lie to people on. no, no. i was careful on. no, no. i was very careful about i said and i usually about what i said and i usually pointed in direction of pointed in the direction of what i'd said was bound by i'd said before. i was bound by collective responsibility. but this of the things this is just one of the things about our system. when you're out government, you say out of government, you can say what like. you're in what you like. when you're in government, you are bound by collective responsibility. it's funny wasn't in government >> but he wasn't in government when he said that's right. when he said that. that's right. >> free to say it. now >> so he was free to say it. now he's bound a bit more. he's bound by a bit more. >> was his idea. >> it was his idea. >> it was his idea. >> no, i'm afraid it was his idea. when you're in government, you some of your you have to eat some of your words of things. you said out of government. the way our government. just the way our system richard tice. system works. richard tice. >> but it's what frustrate. it's decent, folk up decent, ordinary folk up and down that there's down the country that there's that principled that lack of principled conviction about what you believe to believe in, that you have to you have of say something have to sort of say something because you believe when because you believe it when you're a backbencher then

you're a backbencher and then do a u—turn that a massive u—turn that doesn't that reduce trust? that doesn't that reduce trust? >> no, i don't think it does. as it think you need it happens, i think you need a united government. the government with one voice government speaks with one voice and ministers was and you can't have ministers was freelancing their views and freelancing with their views and therefore have to decide as therefore you have to decide as a this so important a minister, is this so important to that i will not serve? or a minister, is this so important to it that i will not serve? or a minister, is this so important to it somethingll not serve? or a minister, is this so important to it something thatt serve? or a minister, is this so important to it something that iserve? or a minister, is this so important to it something that i can 5? or a minister, is this so important to it something that i can liver is it something that i can live with the period that i'm in with for the period that i'm in office? i think that's office? and i think that's perfectly and perfectly rational and respectful the electorate respectful of the electorate othennise know what othennise they'd never know what a because othennise they'd never know what a get because othennise they'd never know what a get different because othennise they'd never know what a get different views ecause othennise they'd never know what a get different views from> you'd get different views from every you'd get different views from eve it's to say there's >> it's fair to say there's a lot of things that david cameron didn't agree on. i mean, some of those things foreign aid, hs2 to net zero, all these things recently in months. the recently in recent months. the hard criticising the prime hard thing criticising the prime minister bored, so minister but he was so bored, so lonely much so little to lonely and so much so little to do that he was desperate do at home that he was desperate for the call. >> but fair to jacob >> but but to be fair to jacob rees—mogg, you were in rees—mogg, when you were in government, when you're an mp, you choices, don't you have to make choices, don't you? the politics is the you? and the politics is the choices you make. if you're with respect, you have no mps. you can what like. you're can say what you like. you're not challenged in the same way as jacob is. >> yeah, but think >> yeah, but i just think i think it the point is, is right.

we have that collective responsibility. it's responsibility. but it's difficult for folk to trust difficult for, for folk to trust their mps when they one their mps when they say one thing appointed thing one week they're appointed a all of a sudden a minister and all of a sudden they're saying another thing, a different way. it's not ideal. >> i've a view >> jacob. i've got a higher view of the intelligence of my voters. i think understand voters. i think they understand these constitutional these complex constitutional immediately and probably write essays somerset. >> got to hold you two >> they i've got to hold you two apart just for now. in a bid for some kind of collective visibility table, if visibility on this table, if nowhere else, it's finally been announced. farage announced. but nigel farage is going jungle. he's been going into the jungle. he's been teasing while whether teasing us for a while whether he's actually going to go in or not. clearly been taking it not. he's clearly been taking it very seriously. has been on very seriously. he has been on a detox already. >> no, there isn't any booze in there. quite there. which is which is quite a serious situation view. serious situation in my view. equally and just as important , equally and just as important, funnily enough, is tea and coffee. so as a bit of training for going into the jungle, i haven't had a drink . alcoholic haven't had a drink. alcoholic drink, cup of tea or coffee now for five days. >> well , nigel, cheers for a cup >> well, nigel, cheers for a cup of tea here.

>> we'll have that very, very soon with more of that. back in a moment

radio. >> before the break, i asked you off the return of david cameron to the front line of politics. is this a return of the remainers? well, you've been getting in touch. vince says this looked like the tories versus labour on being the rejoin party. david says rishi has now confirmed what we suspected . he is a remainer suspected. he is a remainer appointing a staunch anti brexiteer to replace in quotes a pro brexiteer confirms his position , as dorothy says, by position, as dorothy says, by appointing cameron to the government, it shows that sunak is out of his depth. bob says cameron is proof there is life after death . another ramona in a after death. another ramona in a position of power, do keep those views coming in farage at

cbnnews.com . let's get more cbnnews.com. let's get more reaction to one of the biggest stories of the day the sacking. if you remember it early this morning, 8:30 am, i think it was of suella braverman as home secretary. i can't think of anyone better to talk to than a former tory himself, sir former tory leader himself, sir ian duncan—smith, tory mp for chingford woodford green . chingford and woodford green. ian, where were you when you when heard that suella lost when you heard that suella lost her job? >> i think i was in the car. that's all i heard was somebody texted said, suella is texted me and said, suella is gone. texted me and said, suella is gone . i these things when gone. i mean, these things when you're reshuffle like you're doing reshuffle like that, happen suddenly . so that, they happen suddenly. so the sackings come first. the sackings all come out first. as know . and i was a bit as you know. and i was a bit surprised that it was done by telephone. yeah normally you would that they be would hope that they might be seen thanked, but it was by seen and thanked, but it was by telephone and then the whole thing undennay way. but no, thing got undennay way. but no, i was i was sorry . thing got undennay way. but no, i was i was sorry. i'm sorry. i'll be honest. i'm sorry to see suella go. yeah, i think she's a highly intelligent. she's a very good lawyer. and she understood the real threat that we faced with being unable to get these boats stopped. been boats stopped. and she's been very the prime of doing

very much at the prime of doing all of that. so i think it it'll be a loss. >> there's no be a loss. >> there's m >> there's been no exchange of letters between prime letters between the prime minister home secretary. minister and the home secretary. normally degree normally there is a degree of politeness and done doing politeness and well done doing this. didn't know that. this. well, i didn't know that. >> surprised that. that's >> i'm surprised at that. that's not how things should not normally how things should go. that's unusual. >> illustrates coldness go. that's unusual. >> illustthe s coldness go. that's unusual. >> illustthes people >ss go. that's unusual. >> illustthes people who is between the two people who is the standard bearer of the right now in your party? now, i asked that question of the government at meeting. up lee at the meeting. they put up lee rowley, who's the housing minister. you have lost minister. but you have lost a senior voice there in one of the great offices of state. and how does that make you feel as a as a the conservative party is a right of centre party. >> so when you say who's the standard bearer, you know what i mean? ian duncan no, no. but my point is it should be you should automatically well, that's automatically go, well, that's the prime minister because we're a centre party. we a right of centre party. we should all these should believe in all these things drive things and we want to drive them. wouldn't have asked them. so you wouldn't have asked that margaret that question when margaret thatcher know thatcher was around. you know exactly who was the standard bearer. don't i'm not very bearer. so i don't i'm not very good the runes or good at reading the runes or looking around. i think a lot of

people have that people would claim to have that position. view position. but my general view right now is we have a short penod right now is we have a short period of time in which to get the of policy bring the sort of policy that bring that coalition that voted for us in in 2019, hugely. got us in in 2019, hugely. he got us across it's a mix of across the line. it's a mix of people who to deliver people who wanted to deliver brexit quite categorically. they wanted control migration, wanted a control of migration, which they wanted. they wanted the government their backs. the government off their backs. they taxes. they wanted lower taxes. absolutely they, absolutely clear because they, you on you know, many of them are on low et cetera. and they low incomes. et cetera. and they don't want all this woke nonsense that's been going on, which their lives , which is destroying their lives, including, way, beating including, by the way, beating them to net zero, them up to get to net zero, a target plucked out target which was plucked out of nowhere, been watered nowhere, which has been watered down by by the pm. >> sunak hasn't it, to 2035 >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on targets to avoid doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to targets to avoid doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to startjets to avoid doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to start but to avoid doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to start but weavoid doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to start but we need doing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to start but we need toing >> mr sunak hasn't it, to 2035 on to start but we need to go that to start but we need to go a lot further. what's your advice to braverman? if advice to suella braverman? if i were suella right now, what would you be saying to me? you'd say, speech on say, suella don't do a speech on the backbenches, she has the backbenches, which she has a right to a resignation speech right to do a resignation speech and about benches. >> think she now leads to >> i think she now leads to conduct herself basis conduct herself on the basis that principles and she that she has principles and she understands she believes understands where she believes the to go. it's the party to go. i think it's quite legitimate. if she's on

the she's freer to the backbenches, she's freer to express her view about she express her view about where she thinks go, how that thinks we ought to go, how that should therefore should work, and what therefore a conservative over the a conservative party over the next should like. next year should look like. she's at to do she's quite at liberty to do that. would have no problem that. i would have no problem with that. cease with doing that. and i cease being leader. set up the being leader. i set up the centre for social justice. i campaigned to try and deliver conservative down conservative values to down those who were. >> went to govern >> you famously went to govern in scotland. you saw poverty , in scotland. you saw poverty, you you founded you came back, you founded a think to alleviate poverty. think tank to alleviate poverty. you did universal credit. you then did universal credit. you then did universal credit. you had a kind of i would say, a better time out government or better time out of government or out being leader than being out of being leader than being leader. yeah >> no, i mean, i delivered >> yeah. no, i mean, i delivered all that i came back into all that and i came back into government that government as a result of that work. you know, there is work. so you know, there is always over, you know, always it's not over, you know, don't for one moment that don't think for one moment that it's because you're on it's over just because you're on the benches, back the back. benches, on the back benchesis the back. benches, on the back benches is really where all politics is. when you're in government, you're trapped in collective and collective responsibility. and that it very difficult. that makes it very difficult. >> bill cash, of course, >> well, bill cash, of course, the really delivered the man who really delivered brexit terms of in of brexit in terms of in terms of legally house of legally through the house of commons that commons will tell you that people the back benches people only on the back benches get things done in

get things done and in government do the big government you can't do the big things. just ask you things. but just just to ask you quickly, what did what was suella to last week? did you suella up to last week? did you ever out have you asked ever find out have you asked her? you're friend? her? you're a friend? >> haven't >> i haven't actually. >> i haven't actually. >> i haven't actually. >> i goading prime minister >> i goading the prime minister to her and did. to sack her and he did. >> interestingly, she the truth is didn't is the is they didn't is the interesting they didn't interesting thing. they didn't disagree issue of the disagree about the issue of the marches. have marches. they seem to have completely the completely agreed that the marches have taken marches should not have taken place. so i think they would disagree. about the disagree. it turns out about the tenor what she said, but the tenor of what she said, but the reality they both came reality is that they both came out and said the marches shouldn't place. so shouldn't take place. so in a way, they were disagreement way, they were in disagreement with police, both of them. with the police, both of them. so way done. so it's the way it's done. i suspect that he's sacked for whether you like that or not. the reality is a vast majority of public actually agreed of the public actually agreed that this was remembrance. i mean, in the army, i mean, i served in the army, i was in northern ireland, i lost a particularly a good friend, disgraceful was disgraceful way that he was killed , of so i wanted killed, all of this. so i wanted to commemorate that peace. i to commemorate that in peace. i did need to have some did not need to have some protest march taking place. could taken place on the could have taken place on the monday. i don't know why we monday. so i don't know why we had allow it on. had to allow it on. >> we're looking at the

government may well be tightening and when tightening up the laws and when you protest, may ban on you can protest, they may ban on certain days you may a certain days you may be a certain days you may be a certain threshold, is certain threshold, which is easier hit. easier for police to hit. absolutely. are you offended the fact enough fact that you aren't good enough to secretary? in to be foreign secretary? in fact, are not any of your fact, you are not any of your colleagues in the house of commons. to go and find commons. he's had to go and find a foreign secretary who isn't even house lords do even in the house of lords to do the job. that not annoying the job. is that not annoying for well, i have1 the job. is that not annoying for well, i have 1 or 2 concerns. >> let me say that i am sanctioned. i'm one of seven people in parliament that are sanctioned by the chinese government. discovered sanctioned by the chinese governrr ipac discovered through ipac the inter—parliamentary alliance on china. was a genocide china. there was a genocide taking xinjiang. taking place in xinjiang. people are being forced are literally being into forced laboun are literally being into forced labour, labour. labour, slave labour. >> that's you couldn't there. >> it's more than that. it's the fact that i therefore, being sanctioned, hounded wolf. sanctioned, hounded by wolf. what my what is it said, as are my colleagues are sites are attacked then david cameron attacked and then david cameron is and a little is coming in and i'm a little bit puzzled about this because until recently appears that bit puzzled about this because untilbeing tly appears that bit puzzled about this because untilbeing tly by pears that bit puzzled about this because untilbeing tly by the s that bit puzzled about this because untilbeing tly by the chinese he's being paid by the chinese government promote certain government to promote certain things with the things to do with the government. want know i'll government. i want to know i'll be with you, why that's a be honest with you, why that's a conflict. want to know conflict. and i want to know how that be settled, because

that is to be settled, because we threat the whole we are under threat the whole time. and we are members of the parliament. a couple of people are government, for are in government, for god's sake. this a real question sake. so this is a real question mark me about what is that mark for me about what is that conflict and how is that be settled. >> and indeed, david cameron was was because was quite pro—china because i went on the plane with him back in 2011, shanghai. right. in 2011, shanghai. that's right. disaster now, our reporter in 2011, shanghai. that's right. disast(| now, our reporter in 2011, shanghai. that's right. disast(| bring our reporter in 2011, shanghai. that's right. disast(| bring ouricharder before i bring in richard tice for but have got for me, richard, but we have got a called will hollis, a reporter called will hollis, who's been david who's been out in david cameron's witney cameron's former witney constituency, getting the public's the news public's reaction to the news that's been about that's been making about the comeback. they comeback. let's hear what they had with a coward when he had to say with a coward when he ran away from the referendum. >> and it really situation >> and it really is a situation whereby i think the tory grandees are going to have to do something a bit than bring something a bit more than bring back the worst prime back possibly the worst prime minister we've had this century . minister we've had this century. >> we need just a change in a bit of a reform in the political system. well, it's not necessarily a bad thing. >> experience. that's >> he's got experience. that's that's thing i'm looking that's the thing i'm looking at. yeah. looking at yeah. i'm just looking at experience. someone who might know what doing, at know what they're doing, at least does it say about least a what does it say about the current the tory the current state of the tory party the members who

party and the members who the prime minister could have chosen? prime minister could have chose there nobody from within >> is there nobody from within his of who he thinks his group of mps who he thinks could that role? could perform that role? >> can't make worse job >> he can't make any worse job than they're doing at the moment. >> i think going to cause a >> i think it's going to cause a huge conflict between the community. >> i think he's a really nice bloke means well, but bloke and he means well, but he's bit left on the he's a bit left on the conservative party that i think is my problem with him. well, i think he's had his time, hasn't he ? he? >> and i think he's done his fair share. i go back into it, you know, that job could have gone to somebody else. yes, right . right. >> so not very welcoming, are they, of david cameron's come back richard what's your view? >> reality is, i think >> the reality is, i think millions of people of the conservative party or any party or party, i think are really, or no party, i think are really, really disappointed. suella braverman was speaking up, saying, and actually writing how so many people felt the marches shouldn't have gone ahead . i've shouldn't have gone ahead. i've got more to say about that later. i think they've been absolutely appalling . and you absolutely appalling. and you know, on the boats, she was committed and she's committed to reducing mass immigration. these

are things that hugely, are the things that are hugely, hugely important, particularly in red wall. and the prime in the red wall. and the prime minister's ditched lot. minister's ditched the lot. >> question is what >> the big question is what changed having full changed between having full confidence in her last week and then when she's been then today when she's been fired? going know fired? we're not going to know yet, blonde, you're yet, but phillip blonde, you're joining used joining me today. you used to work david didn't work with david cameron, didn't you?i work with david cameron, didn't you? i did. you knew him well. you pleased. your old you must be pleased. your old pal, gang, back together pal, the old gang, back together again now? >> i say i >> well, no, i would say i think. i think that, you know, i'm a red tory, so i want. that means a conservatism that supports the working class. that backs what working class people need, which is a range of things. but a state that works, an economy that works, and a society that secures them culturally and socially . that's culturally and socially. that's my politics. and i find kind of what happens today very , very what happens today very, very confusing. i mean , people have confusing. i mean, people have to take different strategies, but i wonder what is the question to which david cameron was the answer? you know , were

was the answer? you know, were what? what is the party, the party must in essence , be giving party must in essence, be giving up on the red wall. it must be giving up on its majority in 2019. and decided to defend its seats in the home counties. i mean, that's the only way you can make sense of this of this . can make sense of this of this. >> well, the government has said today to us in briefings that they've brought in david cameron. he's a grown up. he's knows the world stage. he has been, you know, experience of being a prime minister. the world is complicated, getting more complicated with the issues in ukraine and in gaza . and you in ukraine and in gaza. and you need a grown up to do it. and in fact, look at the team fact, if you look at the team around rishi sunak, they are young to young people in comparison to david he's 20 years david cameron. he's 20 years older sunak. older than rishi sunak. >> think you know, you >> i don't think you know, you can't take away david cameron's experience from him. he's charming, he's clever. all of this is true. but i didn't think james cleverly was failing as foreign secretary. i think actually he was an extremely successful . i think it would be successful. i think it would be hard to take foreign policy

success as and lay them at cameron's door. he failed to get the deal. you see. well, quite i mean, libya didn't work. nothing worked really. i mean , he worked initially. >> i think he well, i mean, i was out there with him and he stopped the bloodshed in benghazi. >> but, you can't intervene and then withdraw. >> so the trouble is, you can't do too kind of intervention in half measures. it's got to be at scale a five year plan, a ten year plan. it's a bit like levelling up, right? you can't just it. and then not not just say it. and then not not deliver for it. so the tragedy is, is look, we all know that the conservative party is split. broadly speaking, it's split across three groups. it's great firm like the one nation group , firm like the one nation group, i'd say conservative liberals . right. >> that's that's the biggest group, isn't it? >> i don't think it's the biggest group, but it's certainly it's certainly one that commands a good third of the conservative party then you've got the truss sites , for you've got the truss sites, for want of a better , of a better want of a better, of a better word, but they don't have a good

economic success story . and then economic success story. and then you've got the red tories or the post liberals, you know, sue ella, danny kruger , miriam ella, danny kruger, miriam cates, john hayes . and what cates, john hayes. and what sunak essentially has just said , sunak essentially has just said, i'm going to gamble everything on on the on one third of the party, the liberal section, i'm shutting out the other two groups and i'm going to do it and i'm going to then at least deliver stability and see how that fares with the electorate . that fares with the electorate. but he won't get stability . what but he won't get stability. what he will get is an incredibly unstable party led. it is already going in. i suspect that it's a drip, drip move now , the it's a drip, drip move now, the key point coming up is on wednesday , when we get the wednesday, when we get the decision of the courts on the rwanda transfers . now, if they rwanda transfers. now, if they the government lose , which i the government lose, which i think people think they will, then that is a rallying point for the right because the current home secretary now doesn't support leaving the

european court. neither does the prime minister. neither does david cameron . david cameron. >> guess who does suella braverman. so you can imagine her intervening, can't you? after losing losing in the supreme court and i would imagine that interview imagine that that interview mention calling the mention calling for the conservative party to leave the european court of human rights, which by the way, is now being discussed italy in germany which by the way, is now being disc elsewherealy in germany which by the way, is now being disc elsewhere in in germany which by the way, is now being disc elsewhere in europe,1any which by the way, is now being disc elsewhere in europe, will and elsewhere in europe, will command at least 50% of the tory party >> so what we have is a is a prime minister who essentially just wants a cabinet he's comfortable with and he's probably exhausted by anything else. but he's made himself incredibly unstable . well, i incredibly unstable. well, i would be quite surprised if he managed to see out a political yearin managed to see out a political year in this situation . year in this situation. >> so when when's he off then? well next summer, i think. >> no, i think that there will be i can see his ratings dropping even further from the low . so we used to have ideas low. so we used to have ideas that the tory party would be down to 200 seats. now it looks

like it might be below that. even so. so if that happens , so even so. so if that happens, so you've got a conservative mps have got to ask, well , we're have got to ask, well, we're going at the wall, we're picking up speed. the prime minister has taken us from 60 miles an hour to 123. there's the wall. it's coming closer. surely there's an option. you know, to turn the steering wheel . and i just think steering wheel. and i just think as this gradually compounds because here's the here's the point. what's the electoral calculus going on here? i do election strategy and i can't understand it. we currently hold the conservative party currently hold 45% of those who voted in 2019. the key point is hold on to them. there's a lot of don't knows in those seats. we've got we've got islamist ism on our streets. suella braverman was right about two tier policing. everybody knows it. we have essentially the police have given mass permissibility for anti semitism for public anti semitism, then intervening after

the fact. >> we'll we'll come to that later. but but your point is you are not a buyer in shares of the tory party after this reshuffle. >> philip, i just don't understand it. >> i don't see see, the only way for them to minimise their defeat . so it's a one election defeat. so it's a one election defeat, not a two, not a three election defeat is to recover their 2019 vote. there's no votes for them in the forecast right now is for labour landslide . landslide. >> how many tory seats after the election ? election? >> used think they >> well, i used to think they were 220. i'd now say were looking at 220. i'd now say they're looking 180. they're looking at 160 to 180. sorry, sorry . yes. sorry, sorry. yes. >> one situation for philip blonde that is that is cratering richard tice. >> you're going to benefit are you reform uk. >> philip's a strategist. the reality is the prime minister has abandoned a massive chunk of that 2019 it's almost like that 2019 vote. it's almost like he's going into bunker mode and you wonder almost whether he's had enough . and look, we're had enough. and look, we're going to be ready for a may election . and it feels to me election. and it feels to me that that is going up the up the likelihood why is that? >> surely he wants more time to recover. >> does this reshuffle why has

he brought david cameron back? why he got rid someone why has he got rid of someone who actually spoke for the red wall all wall tory voters in 2000? all these things completely these things are completely inexplicable. so inexplicable . inexplicable. so inexplicable. you have to say he's giving up. he's had enough. just wants he's had enough. he just wants out . you know, he can he's had enough. he just wants out. you know, he can disappear. off to california or wherever some elite in your party for a may election . may election. >> we are next january. we are preparing for a may election. >> whenever it is, we will be ready, but we will be ready for a may election. and you'll do any deals with the tories like last time? >> absolutely not. definitely. you'll hat. you'll eat your hat. >> eat than >> you'll you'll eat more than that. actually, it has that. actually, i've said it has to be eaten on air. i tell you what, i did a deal, i would what, if i did a deal, i would eat that hat and that hat is not tasty. it's better on the head in the mouth. oh i couldn't resist that. resist hearing that. >> his hat. richard >> patrick eat his hat. richard tice. he does deal with the. >> i hope that doesn't come back to bite you. richard i really do. do. you're going to do. i really do. you're going to need a more expensive set of teeth. you're a big show tonight. >> come on. >> come on. >> look. massive show. >> look. massive show. >> suit. you've

>> you're wearing a suit. you've got sharper. >> you have got sharper. and it's patrick it's because it's patrick christys. starting christys. tonight it's starting 9 to p.m. christys. tonight it's starting 9 to pm. for the foreseeable 9 to 11 pm. for the foreseeable future. on gb news. we're going strong. we've got dame andrea jenkins. she's handing jenkins. caita she's handing in a confidence a letter of no confidence tonight. wow. yeah. tonight in the hour. so make you the 9:00 hour. so make sure you stay for that. we've also stay tuned for that. we've also got kwarteng on. he's got kwasi kwarteng on. he's going to be weighing in. we're going to be weighing in. we're going having discussion going to be having a discussion with edwina curry and david campbell. debate with edwina curry and david camprhether debate with edwina curry and david camprhether not debate with edwina curry and david camprhether not rishi debate about whether or not rishi sunak has the left. i'm has sold out to the left. i'm also going to be joined by kelvin mackenzie. we could promise well, the most promise you as well, the most entertaining review you entertaining paper review you will on national will see anywhere on national television between half past ten and 11 pm. at night. so we're going to be having a look at this absolutely seismic day in british doing it british politics and doing it proper justice. british politics and doing it properjustice. between 9 to 11. proper justice. between 9 to 11. we just one question of dame andrea jenkin. >> succeed in forcing out >> if you succeed in forcing out the pm, who should replace him? ask her. ask that question. well, just text me. i'll be watching anyway. well, you'll be watching. >> absolutely. also also just on that very quickly, we have got some whatsapp messages that very quickly, we have got

someinside whatsapp messages that very quickly, we have got someinside wiconservative;ages from inside the conservative party. able to party. so we will be able to reveal for you right at the start of the show what the real mood music is like the tory party. >> that's more than more than my whatsapps thank you, whatsapps right. thank you, patrick. hear from patrick. brilliant to hear from me now. not long hear from patrick. brilliant to hear from me main not long hear from patrick. brilliant to hear from me main manong hear from patrick. brilliant to hear from me main man himself ear from patrick. brilliant to hear from me main man himself exclusively the main man himself exclusively why decided head into the why he decided to head into the jungle. year. but first jungle. this year. but first hear why he thinks he's got a bit advantage. hear why he thinks he's got a bit i'm advantage. hear why he thinks he's got a bit i'm goingmtage. hear why he thinks he's got a bit i'm going to age. hear why he thinks he's got a bit i'm going to do. best to >> i'm going to do my best to try and take part as much as all of the other contestants. othennise wouldn't be a fair othennise it wouldn't be a fair challenge across all of the people are going in. i know people that are going in. i know i go a physical i go in at a physical disadvantage, but i hope i go in with some of mental with some sort of mental advantage and we'll be back

radio. now over the weekend, we saw some very ugly scenes across central london with hundreds of thousands of pro—palestine protesters taking to the streets of the capital. >> again, more than 120 counter protesters were arrested

following violent clashes in whitehall . it came on a weekend whitehall. it came on a weekend of remembrance with the bulk of the confronted confrontation between demonstrators kicking off on saturday, armistice day. the 11th of november. also emerging on social media were anti—semitic chants and signs abuse in all directions and richard tice you've got a thing or two to say about that. >> i really do, because i called it out before the very 1st march. i saw the hideous attitude when they were demonstrating on october the 9th outside the israeli embassy . i outside the israeli embassy. i said, these marches will incite hate and violence and anti—semitism . i've tragically anti—semitism. i've tragically been proven absolutely right. these marches should not have gone ahead. we've seen horrific graphic anti—semitism and the clips that you see, which i think we're going to throw to now just absolutely proves it. just listen to this . just listen to this. >> what are you, a jew? well hello. why you . hey, hey, hey, hello. why you. hey, hey, hey, hey . dude, dude, don't know . hey. dude, dude, don't know. don't touch my. why are you

recording me? say that again. hello say that again. hi. what did i say? what did he say? what did i say? what did he say? what did i say? hello oh, look. paparazzi. hello. >> what do you want me to talk for? >> you, huh? because i said something about you. yes. i said, do i talk freepalestine? >> because i said i support hitler . hitler. >> knew how to deal with these people . they probably made people. they probably made a program so they can create a state of israel in the expense of palestine and muslims. blood jealous ? that's what the jews . jealous? that's what the jews. >> okay, first of all, we're going to apologise for the language in those clips there, which were very, very strong and apologise if you have any children this at home. children watching this at home. but i mean, have to but richard, i mean, i have to tell i think this utterly tell you, i think this utterly disgusting . disgusting. >> it's revolting. >> i think it's revolting. i think was totally avoidable. think it was totally avoidable. and the whole and when you hear that the whole country be steaming mad country should be steaming mad with it is it with fury, but is it is it right, though? >> it right, though? yes, >> is it right, though? yes, those are appalling . sad thing

those are appalling. sad thing to say, but it's against the law. >> and we knew this would happen. >> you can't ban the march for all people. all those people. >> you absolutely ban >> surely you absolutely can ban the march. why do you think if you going to break you think it's going to break the law and lead to level the law and lead to that level of anti—semitism, it's like a poison that is now coursing through the vein protest through the vein of that protest and all of these and the vein of all of these people. revolting. and people. and it's revolting. and it been allowed it shouldn't have been allowed to the police to happen. the police commissioner, mark rowley, commissioner, sir mark rowley, he had the opportunity to ban it. didn't it, frankly , it. he didn't take it, frankly, if any decency whatsoever if he had any decency whatsoever , the man would resign. well you heard it there. >> now, all the way from staffordshire is sir peter fahy, the former chief constable of greater manchester police. he joins me now for reaction to what richard tice had to say about whether the met police chief should resign. sir peter, what thoughts on that what are your thoughts on that and what you saw there in those those offensive clips? those really offensive clips? >> clips absolutely >> loads of clips are absolutely offensive. but the police absolutely know that because they are dealing with huge amounts reports of amounts of reports of anti—semitism and islamophobia right across the country . so

right across the country. so there's been a lot of focus on these particular protests. but these particular protests. but the is the police are the fact is the police are deaung the fact is the police are dealing this to day dealing with this day to day having investigate it and try having to investigate it and try and with and deal with and deal with it and deal with complaints all different complaints from all different sections community sections of the community as well sort of lawlessness well as the sort of lawlessness that we know is out there in general in certain places. i think what's been disappointing about past week is there's about the past week is there's been a just misleading been a lot of just misleading comments about what the law actually says. the police can't ban anything. the commissioner can't anything. he can can't ban anything. all he can do is if there is you know, very firm evidence of serious disorder can apply to the home office for that march to be banned. and that has only been used in the past with situations like the national front and the anti—nazi league. about ten years ago. and just because and it is absolutely horrendous, the level of hate from some people, thatis level of hate from some people, that is not enough to get a march banned in in any case, all they would need to do is change they would need to do is change the march into a protest, into a rally, be static, and the police would still have to deal with it. so you know, it's really

difficult when there is this just misleading view of what the law actually says. well, and that includes, you know, the real complexities around , if m ay. >> yes may. >> yes . that's the threshold for >> yes. that's the threshold for the law. and it can be got around by a static demo rather than a walking march . and but than a walking march. and but there are ideas, aren't there, in the press overnight briefed for number 10 on how to tighten up the public order laws. will that be enough, do you think ? that be enough, do you think? >> well , i that be enough, do you think? >> well, i think what that be enough, do you think? >> well , i think what we've seen >> well, i think what we've seen really over recent years, and particularly with just stop oil just chasing the different tactics of protesters by different legislation , doesn't different legislation, doesn't always work . and the trouble is always work. and the trouble is you can ban what you like. the police will still have to deal with it and there could be disorder as a result. what i would say is this should not be a police decision. there are very strong emotions, very strong and think strong opinions. and i think the government should set up a mechanism whereby people could apply to do judiciary to an independent parades commission like northern

like they've got in northern ireland or indeed to home ireland or indeed to the home office and they should have that power it power and decision. it shouldn't, you know, with power and decision. it sho police. you know, with power and decision. it sho police. that's ow, with power and decision. it sho police. that's not with power and decision. it sho police. that's not right..h the police. that's not right. >> peter, finally, what >> sir peter, just finally, what would you say to richard next to me, who just called for sir mark rowley sacked or to rowley to be sacked or to resign? what do you say to resign? what what do you say to richard directly to richard tice? now about that? tice? right now about that? >> i just you most >> i just think, you know, most people that people would say that the metropolitan an metropolitan police did an outstanding saturday. the outstanding job on saturday. the prime had it clear prime minister had made it clear that at the that the ceremony at the cenotaph had to go on and not be impeded , and a lot of officers impeded, and a lot of officers took injuries to protect that and that it didn't and make sure that it didn't happen. and make sure that it didn't happen . so there is no question happen. so there is no question there a lot of hatred and there is a lot of hatred and a lot anti—semitism out there. lot of anti—semitism out there. but lot of the but i think a lot of the commentary just ignores the practicalities of the criminal law, making arrests and there'll be a lot of officers very frustrated at the misleading view. that is given about the view. is that is given about the practicalities of making an arrest in the middle of a huge protest. >> well, sir peter fahy, the former chief constable of greater manchester police, thank you joining tonight you for joining us tonight on gb news. i'm now by alan

news. now i'm joined now by alan miller, the co—founder of together, attended some together, who attended some marches at the weekend. and alan, how was it? i mean, do you feel you're being policed fairly? >> well, i think a couple of things. i started at the cenotaph and winston churchill and it was very. >> what time was that? >> what time was that? >> around 11 the morning. >> so the time of the moment of silence? indeed. silence? yes, indeed. >> 1215, it was very >> so at 1215, it was very dignified, calm. i have seen the things that happened subsequently. must say that i subsequently. i must say that i think media and others in think the media and others in the to this stoked a think the media and others in theof to this stoked a think the media and others in theof things. this stoked a think the media and others in theof things. the stoked a think the media and others in theof things. the two {ed a think the media and others in theof things. the two thingsa lot of things. the two things were separate . things were quite separate. things were. people are reporting were. but people are reporting what what were the people what was what were the people were about it won't do were saying about it won't do more. and were more. yeah indeed. and they were two different times, two different but i think different things. but i do think people been very upset over people have been very upset over what's happened in the few what's happened in the last few weeks. and weeks. some incidents and a sense policing should sense in which policing should be or favour. but be without fear or favour. but is necessarily. is not necessarily. >> agree with philip >> do you agree with philip braverman that were picking favourites? >> think that the majority >> i think that the majority of the public agree with the british public agree with suella braverman on that point, and sacked pm and she's been sacked by the pm today. indeed and i think that the completely the pm and others are completely out the public and

out of touch with the public and that's why together say that's why it together we say that's why it together we say that the public has to be at the heart of things terms how heart of things in terms of how we but about we police, but also about democratic freedom and accountability. don't accountability. now i don't agree with richard's about agree with richard's point about banning whilst banning it, because whilst you've i you've got abhorrent ideas, as i think that are illegal think things that are illegal should with, whether should be dealt with, whether that's oil or any of that's just stop oil or any of the others. although the more recent things the problem has been, there hasn't been the backbone spine it. backbone and the spine to do it. and what's happened is we've had more passed, though more laws passed, even though there deal with there were laws to deal with things around the police crime sentencing like we've got sentencing act like we've got the online limiting the online safety bill limiting our limiting our freedoms and limiting our ability shine light ability to shine a light actually how brilliant actually to show how brilliant civilisations are, what our forefathers about our forefathers stood for about our freedom our rights. and to freedom and our rights. and to say this is what's so good say this is why. what's so good about and way of life. about us and our way of life. and very concerned that then and i'm very concerned that then i somewhere i ended up going somewhere alongside where the demonstration was. i into demonstration was. i went into a pub, a great british pub, to use the bathroom , use the toilet, the bathroom, use the toilet, and i was told i couldn't come out. we had to wait there for 3.5 hours. i was locked in at a pub. some people might say that's a fun thing, but i

actually met a couple of brilliant well, what brilliant people. well, but what was dangerous sense was quite dangerous in the sense that it was presenting us in the pub as though were some kind pub as though we were some kind of was nerve of threat. so that was nerve wracking. then when we were wracking. and then when we were told we were going to be searched and we couldn't leave without being searched what searched and we couldn't leave withthe being searched what searched and we couldn't leave withthe being se foned what searched and we couldn't leave withthe being se foned alaniat was the grounds for this? alan well, said it's emergency well, they said it's emergency powers. says powers. they someone says section really section 60. i didn't really get a answer the chief a clear answer from the chief constable or from any of the other people there, but it was clear to me that in this discussion about far right, that's patriots. seems that's for patriots. that seems to who thinks to be about anyone who thinks that should that statues should be preserved. there's that statues should be preserve an there's that statues should be preservean obsession there's that statues should be preserve an obsession on there's that statues should be preserve an obsession on thethe become an obsession on on the one hand about all sorts of people being specific. and people not being specific. and then there has been a reluctance. it seems to me, to intervene things intervene in some of the things we've seen. now, i know it's a difficult job, but my concern about more bans and more restrictions is that gets about more bans and more restrictimon s that gets about more bans and more restrictimon all that gets about more bans and more restrictimon all of that gets about more bans and more restrictimon all of tha like.s about more bans and more restrictimon all of tha like what imposed on all of us. like what happened to me on the weekend. >> thank you >> well, alan miller, thank you for us. now i should say forjoining us. now i should say that i was lucky enough at that i was lucky enough to be at the hall, the royal the albert hall, the royal albert on saturday night, albert hall on saturday night, and witness, a rather life and a witness, a rather life affirming moment at the of

affirming moment at the end of the british the royal british legion festival the festival of remembrance when the orchestra land hope orchestra played land of hope and people joined in. and glory and people joined in. i wonder whether this i just wonder whether that this may where most people are. may be is where most people are. despite all the dreadful weekend . have look at what . let's have a look at what i was able to film . for there's a slice maybe of what people really think. despite all of the horrors that we can people do try to want this country to do best by itself. now, after weeks of speculation, gb news is very own. nigel farage has confirmed the very big he's to the jungle big news. he's off to the jungle for month. month. nigel for next month. month. nigel will be giving up his creature comforts appear comforts and his beers to appear as a contestant down under in the series of i'm a the latest series of i'm a celebrity. of here.

celebrity. get me out of here. take a look at what he's got in store. >> my name is jamie lynn spears. hi, guys . hi, guys. >> i'm marvin humes. >> i'm marvin humes. >> my name is nella rose. >> my name is nella rose. >> hi. i'm sam thompson. >> hi. i'm sam thompson. >> gibson. >> i'm josie gibson. >> i'm josie gibson. >> i'm josie gibson. >> i'm nick pickard. >> hello. i'm nick pickard. >> hello. i'm nick pickard. >> danielle harold. >> i'm danielle harold. >> i'm danielle harold. >> fred sirieix. >> i'm fred sirieix. >> i'm fred sirieix. >> name is grace dent. >> my name is grace dent. >> my name is grace dent. >> i'm farage. and i'm >> i'm nigel farage. and i'm known, course , for politics, known, of course, for politics, for and hero to for brexit. and i'm a hero to some people and absolute some people and an absolute villain to millions. you might like me more. you might dislike me more, but will at least me more, but you will at least find out. dealt with snakes in the european parliament. i believe i can cope with this to joining me now is ben leo gb news, reporter thank thanks for that, ben. >> you're on the way out there. what's your plan? >> absolutely buzzing. can't wait. star signing wait. it's a rock star signing for is going to smash for itv. nigel is going to smash it in the jungle, and i get a free holiday for two weeks. >> where's that hack gone? richard hack. richard tice. here's the hack. i've keep here on my i've got to keep it here on my must. all your 40 a hat from must. all your 40 in a hat from now on. so i'm going to be there on the ground for the duration of nigel's stint. >> fingers crossed he gets to the but like i said, this the final. but like i said, this

is signing not just is a massive signing notjust for a great opportunity for itv and a great opportunity for itv and a great opportunity for nigel, for gb news as for nigel, but for gb news as well. i spoke nigel last week well. i spoke to nigel last week about when he was aiming about this when he was aiming and firing about going in. he said million said there's 10 million plus potential would never potential people who would never have considered him before for an for him an election or to vote for him and even be. and may not even be. >> who should he be? what >> who who should he be? what about the most? >> fred sirieix the first dates, maitre de arch remainer betting on be watching you on the >> we'll be watching you on the tv. in the next, i will be joined once again

>> hello. good evening . it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg. gb news is farage special continues without the great man himself. anyway, as the prime minister continues with his cabinet reshuffle , i with his cabinet reshuffle, i will be giving you my expert stated thoughts on today's developments . it's undoubtedly developments. it's undoubtedly a shift to the left from rishi sunak as he brings back david

cameron into politics via the house of lords. but what does it mean for the future of the tory party ? all of starts with party? all of this starts with the of suella braverman the sacking of suella braverman for her willingness to hold the metropolitan police account metropolitan police to account over marches on over the palestine marches on armistice day. though the ceremony was broadly uninterrupted, been uninterrupted, there have been unruly scenes on streets of unruly scenes on the streets of london have they vindicated london and have they vindicated the former home secretary? the now former home secretary? plus, we'll be hearing from a pollster on what these decisions mean for the tory party. and from bookmaker what the from a bookmaker on what the odds are of nigel farage winning. i'm a celebrity. two of the most important questions of the most important questions of the romping through the day still romping through the day still romping through the gb news farage special with me is the leader of reform uk , me is the leader of reform uk, richard tice and gb news political editor christopher hope. that's a great deal to get through. but first of all, what you've all been waiting for the news of the day with polly middlehurst . jacob thank you and middlehurst. jacob thank you and good evening to you. >> well, as you've been hearing, it has been a day of

reappointments and surprises in downing street today . the prime downing street today. the prime minister says the cabinet reshuffle has built a united team. well, gb news presenter and former housing minister, first of all, esther mcvey was seen wandering into downing street this evening and a short while later she was announced to be a minister without portfolio . be a minister without portfolio. meanwhile, victoria atkins is the new health secretary. she replaces steve barclay, who takes environment. laura trott steps in as treasury chief secretary, also in that government reshuffle today, richard holden has taken up the post of conservative chair and a former prime minister made a surprise return to downing street today . lord david cameron street today. lord david cameron signed up as the new foreign secretary seven years after he left number 10 and he replaces james cleverly, who takes up the home secretary's portfolio that thatis home secretary's portfolio that that is after suella braverman was sacked, we understand, by telephone this morning by the

prime minister ending days of speculation about her job security in government . security in government. meanwhile, the new foreign secretary lord cameron, says he's delighted to be back in government . government. >> hope that six years as prime minister 11 years leading the conservative party, gives me some useful experience and contacts and relationships and knowledge that i can help the prime minister to make sure we build our alliances. we build partnerships with our friends, we deter our enemies, and we keep our country strong. that's why i'm doing the job and i'm delighted to accept lord david cameron speaking there. >> well, his return to government isn't without controversy. some suggesting he won't, for example, be facing regular grillings from mps. lord cameron's position in the house of lords means he's exempt from regular sessions of foreign office questions with junior ministers fielding questions instead . incidentally, number 10 instead. incidentally, number 10 has said he won't be drawing an attendance salary for the house of lords whilst he's serving as

foreign secretary and as that reshuffle took place, this morning, the government said it was working hard on strengthening police powers . as strengthening police powers. as that follows the weekend of pro—palestinian marches . reports pro—palestinian marches. reports suggest it's going to be easier for the government to ban marches and for them to prosecute those supporting or even glorifying terrorism . um, even glorifying terrorism. um, the prime minister says he plans to meet with the met police commissioner, sir mark rowley, in the coming days. we know that officers made a total of 145 arrests at the weekend as well away from government. the funeral of sir bobby charlton took place at manchester cathedral today . the prince of cathedral today. the prince of wales was in attendance , as well wales was in attendance, as well as former manchester united manager sir alex ferguson , who manager sir alex ferguson, who was also seen walking up the steps of the cathedral friend aides and fans gathered to bid sir bobby farewell . thousands of sir bobby farewell. thousands of fans lining the streets near old trafford as the hearse pulled past the football great, made

758 appearances for united won and the european cup in 1968, as well as of course, the world cup for england . in 1966. sir bobby for england. in 1966. sir bobby charlton's funeral, which was today us gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> well, it was jolly reshuffling weather and a hay harvest breeze as a wykehamist appointed an old etonian. so having had a year's gap without an old etonian in the cabinet, we've got one back again. which reminds me of 1963, when sally douglas—home resigned his peerage and went in to the house of commons as prime minister. that was the last time that a system worked where you used the lords and the commons to make sure you got the right person in the right place. though the last

person to be foreign secretary from the lords was of course, lord carrington . 1982. he lord carrington. in 1982. he resigned over the falklands, so cameron's come in, but actually all of this is about suella braverman . the key is not so braverman. the key is not so much david cameron coming in because the elections aren't won or lost on foreign policy. they're won or lost on domestic policy and getting rid of suella to my mind was a mistake by the prime minister. why well, because she had her finger on the pulse of what voters were thinking. it's not to say that sometimes she may have phrased herself infelicitously. she certainly went further than some were comfortable with, and certainly the prime minister was a bit squeamish about. but much of the electorate were very concerned about the marches. a yougov poll showed half of the pubuc yougov poll showed half of the public believed the marches should be banned and we know that voters are concerned by migration. so these two things marches, law and order and migration are what suella has

been sacked for, for following conservative party principles and policy and manifesto commitments . but and policy and manifesto commitments. but doing it and policy and manifesto commitments . but doing itjust commitments. but doing it just a little bit too loudly for the refined taste that and sensitivities of the prime minister. she was in favour of controlled migration and robust enforcement of the law . so if enforcement of the law. so if that's not tory party policy , that's not tory party policy, what does the tory party actually stand for? so again and again, we've promised to reduce legal migration. david cameron. lord cameron, not lord david cameron. just for the sake of accuracy. he is not the son of a duke or a marquess, but nonetheless he is the new foreign secretary. promised to bnng foreign secretary. promised to bring down immigration from the hundreds to of hundreds to the tens of thousands, and he did that prior to election of 2010. now to the election of 2010. now i know rishi sunak wants us all to do maths until we're about 175. but migration last year was but net migration last year was at a record high of 606,000, a little bit above the tens of thousands and suella was willing to take on the treasury orthodoxy that had led to this increase in migration with their

fallacious view that it was gdp. that matters rather than gdp per capita . and clearly the prime capita. and clearly the prime minister is still in the grips of the treasury orthodoxy . of the treasury orthodoxy. suella also recognised that if we're to stop ill legal migration following the supreme court judgement that we will get on wednesday, we may have to leave the echr and you have to wonder whether rishi is willing to do that and the now appointed home secretary, former foreign secretary james cleverly, has stated publicly that he doesn't want to leave the echr. so how do we deal with illegal migration when we've got a 39 section instruction from the echr telling us we can't get rid of people even if our own courts rule in favour of it, with a home secretary who's not in favour of resigning from the echr and he's got a foreign secretary in david cameron, who's european. who's also committed european. so we have a situation where the government no longer appears to be serious about tackling legal or illegal migration, and that

is a major concern of voters conservative policies followed by suella are popular and decision making by prime minister to get rid of her seems to me not to be popular. in a shift to the left , the tory shift to the left, the tory party conference, the prime minister declared himself the candidate of change. but today's change, perhaps rather splendidly, perhaps in a rather tory way, has really been the deification of the status quo, or possibly a return to the status quo ante . well, i'm status quo ante. well, i'm joined now by the labour mp for brent north, barry gardiner. barry, thank you so much for joining me. we used to have lots of discussions in brexit day, so it's good to have you back to talk to as an independent observer , at least a labour observer, at least a labour party observer . how well do you party observer. how well do you think this reshuffle has gone? >> well, first of all, let me say that , jacob, if i had given say that, jacob, if i had given a monologue undermining my party leader , as you have, i would leader, as you have, i would expect to be disciplined by the whips. >> i'm not in the cabinet. i'm not bound by collective

responsibility. no, no, no. >> nor am i in the shadow cabinet. but but nonetheless , i cabinet. but but nonetheless, i would expect to be disciplined by effectively by the whips because effectively what you've just done is to say that this is a mess, that you believe it was completely wrong of the prime minister to do what he did and i thought one of the things that actually at eton they did teach you was about the virtue of loyalty . virtue of loyalty. >> well, i'm loyal to my constituents in north—east somerset who voted for a manifesto. it hadn't been delivered. but let's let's let's ask about views. ask about your views. >> let's address substance >> let's address the substance of have brought back into of it. we have brought back into government a prime minister who presided over a referendum over the independence in scotland, which was based on 50% plus one, which was based on 50% plus one, which was based on 50% plus one, which was a mistake. it should have been , i would say, two have been, i would say, two thirds. so that it was clearly the settled will of the population, not just if mrs. biggins happened to pop her

clogs the night before, it could have changed the outcome of our constitutional settlement. so he was responsible for that. >> but that wasn't that wasn't true of labour's referendums in 1997 or 8, was it? they were all, all referendums, other than 1979. one was have been straight majority was a very long time ago. >> and as you say, the 79 one wasn't the year following, but he presided over the brexit referendum which divided this country more than virtually anything. indeed divided your party and mine over what should be done . and i think to bring be done. and i think to bring him back in, he is the man who was the author of hs2, which the prime minister has just scrapped , and which david cameron himself recently said was a mistake, that he had scrapped . mistake, that he had scrapped. so how these two have suddenly become reckoned , exiled, i find become reckoned, exiled, i find very hard to grapple with. >> but i think that happens because keir starmer said he was a friend of jeremy corbyn and

now he says they were never friends. so these things do change when people go in and out of office. you you can't say you don't like your leader when you're the cabinet, you're in the shadow cabinet, when the shadow when you're out of the shadow cabinet your leader yourself, cabinet or your leader yourself, you can say, well, you didn't really after all. really like him after all. >> point, which is what? >> keir starmer basically said about jacob. >> my was that david >> my point was that david cameron, just few ago cameron, just a few weeks ago had said that he thought that rishi making huge mistake. >> you're saying starmers >> so you're saying starmers sunak brought him into the sunak has brought him into the starmer's disassociation of himself corbyn you himself with jeremy corbyn you think been justified by it think has been justified by it would be a few more weeks would be wonderful for you to turn this disaster tory party this disaster in the tory party because of comparison you because of the comparison you made. but, no, made no made. but but, but no, i made no comparison with keir starmer. >> no , let's let let me just go >> no, let's let let me just go through what's happened . here i through what's happened. here i think most of the population, most of the viewers out there were will not know the names of the people who have been

reshuffled in this with the best will in the world. most members of parliament in the conservative party at one stage or another have now been ministers in government, either in high office or in lower office. and that is because there has been such a turnaround in the politics of the conservative party so that first you had david cameron , an ardent you had david cameron, an ardent remainer who lost a referendum, then you had boris johnson, who was a remainer, but decided to be a leaver in order to become and had a mandate, crucially. and had a mandate to do it. don't don't deny that at all. we then went on to theresa may in my view, a very honourable woman who tried her best. in fact, she was before boris johnson, of course, tried her best, didn't manage to do it, partly because of you and others in your party blocking her. the mandate then fell to boris johnson and after

that we ended up with the, what was it, 45, 48 de reign of, of liz truss and which collapsed in ignominy and financial chaos. so we're now we're we're now reaping the rewards of all that and the names of lee rowley and will quince so people do know about suella and they know about david cameron. >> however , thank you very much >> however, thank you very much barrie . earlier today we sent barrie. earlier today we sent our reporter adam cherry over to westminster where he caught up with justice secretary alex chalk and asked voters for their thoughts on today's reshuffle . thoughts on today's reshuffle. >> alex hi, how are you doing? gb news your reaction to suella braverman sacked this braverman being sacked this morning? see you. is rishi sunak the candidate change? the candidate for change? appointing david cameron? what's your reaction to suella braverman being sacked this morning? >> best news, best best news to wake up to. >> i think it's appalling. it's disgusting. yeah >> i really think a the tories have lost all faith rishi sunak

if not more. >> prime minister >> prime minister >> it's returning sanity to government because suella has brought the office of the home secretary into disrepute . secretary into disrepute. >> and what do you think of david cameron returning to government for the first time in in well over six seven years? i promote that someone with experience, someone that's actually dealt with dignitaries and someone who has experienced bottom good rubbish , a bottom line, good rubbish, a pleasant surprise if we've got a candidate, i'll be voting for. >> i have actually joined reform uk now. well nigel, but he'll be flying out of the jungle i suspect he's in australia surfing. >> apparently. >> apparently. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well i'm delighted to be joined by gb news political editor christopher hope and the leader of reform uk richard tice to discuss these matters further . christopher, it seems to me that what suella was saying was popular, more popular than suella herself, and that the prime minister is therefore

moving away from the tory party wanting to bring down migration and wanting to be tough on tories. >> it's more than that. it's what's changed since last week. i mean last week i'm obviously a journalist for gb news. we ask questions of the government. we said, do you have confidence that the pm's spokesman in suella braverman ? yes, there's suella braverman? yes, there's all confidence all way all confidence all the way through then through last week and then suddenly over the weekend something nothing something changed. nothing changed. she's done very little since that piece appeared in the times morning. so times on thursday morning. so what felt now's times on thursday morning. so whetime felt now's times on thursday morning. so whetime to felt now's times on thursday morning. so whetime to move felt now's times on thursday morning. so whetime to move my felt now's times on thursday morning. so whetime to move my groupow's times on thursday morning. so whetime to move my group around the time to move my group around and the reason we're given in number 10 today was they they want to value to the collective stability in cabinet and work as a unified team. well arguably what she was doing was simply advancing government policy and providing a bit of for space the pm to step in. >> is there anything that she actually said that you can identify as not being conservative party policy or not being the manifesto? conservative party policy or not beiino, the manifesto? conservative party policy or not beiino, she> manifesto? conservative party policy or not beiino, she is1anifesto? conservative party policy or not beiino, she is saying:o? conservative party policy or not beiino, she is saying what a lot >> no, she is saying what a lot of people think, which is there is a double standard which you do the policing

do with the police, the policing of and others of football fans and others different some of these different to some of these marches at weekend, marches we saw at the weekend, the pro—palestinian marches. thatis the pro—palestinian marches. that is frustrating. and that's put firing line. >> well, richard, imagine >> well, richard, i imagine you're of rejoining you're now thinking of rejoining the party. the conservative party. now you've cameron back in you've got david cameron back in office, having left the conservative party when david cameron was prime minister >> oh, absolutely. not exactly the . there and the opposite. there are lots and lots tory members who now lots of tory members who are now leaving joining the party leaving and joining the party that i look, prime that i lead. look, the prime minister seems to be completely out of touch with those who voted party voted for the conservative party to get brexit done in december 19. they wanted to take control of their they wanted of their borders. they wanted lower immigration. they wanted a proper he's now proper brexit. he's now basically he's got more remainers in his cabinet and by getting rid of suella, who clearly believed in stopping the boats and in reducing immigration, he sent a very clear message. he doesn't care about those things. he doesn't care about the red wall. >> so who is he in touch with? >> so who is he in touch with? >> well, clearly, people like lord cameron and lord william hague, think his preferred choice. >> it's a very good question to

being marquess's or duke's being a marquess's or duke's son. get these titles son. again get these titles right on news. right on gb news. >> i'm so sorry, lord egg or william the lord hague, william the absolute right? the lord hague. absolute right? yes. i'm just amazed. >> richard, aren't you to blame here? because you did a deal. didn't yes. did didn't blame. yes. you did a deal didn't blame. yes. you did a deal, didn't you, with tory deal, didn't you, with the tory party and you know party back in 2019. and you know , you stood down mps, you let down some of your candidates, you let down your members for deal >> candidates in order to get brexit done. but look what's happened legally. brexit was done, we haven't it done, but we haven't done it properly. see, that's the reality. that's what we've always very critical always been very, very critical of. it's pretty to me, of. and it's pretty clear to me, given now got more given that he's now got more serious remainers in his cabinet, that actually he doesn't really care any more about brexit. the windsor framework an absolute framework is an absolute disaster. he doesn't care about controlling his borders. i think he's out of touch with what actually people want to vote for. >> you have got thank very >> you have got thank you very much richard and christopher much to richard and christopher coming up on gb news farage special without the great man who's to be who's apparently going to be eating snails and eating slugs and snails and puppy

eating slugs and snails and puppy dogs. tails ltns of violence unfolded on the streets of over the weekend. of london over the weekend. we'll friend we'll be asking labour friend of israel, mccabe, what he israel, steve mccabe, what he made the clashes on our made of the clashes on our streets. plus, we're on the jungle again. we'll be hearing about nigel's biggest fears . about nigel's biggest fears. >> not a big fan of heights , got >> not a big fan of heights, got to tell you, having been in a plane crash, i know that the ground does hurt quite a lot. so i'm not a big fan of heights. all the other stuff. i mean, ask any contestant, do like you any contestant, do they like you know, or mice or snakes or know, rats or mice or snakes or creepy or witchetty creepy crawlies or witchetty bugs? the answer for bugs? the answer is no for everybody. we're all everybody. so kind of we're all in the boat, i think on in the same boat, i think on this. and that's part of the appeal. but it's how you deal with that . with that. >> well, we'll be asking a bookmaker his chances are bookmaker what his chances are of tarzan , or is that of being tarzan, or is that michael heseltine .

hear them at home. earlier on gb news radio . news radio. >> welcome back . i'm christopher >> welcome back. i'm christopher hope gb news political editor.

this is gb news farage special we've been discussing the prime minister's reshuffle and you've been getting in touch with your thoughts. as barry says, obviously the sacking of suella braverman shows the government expect to lose the high court ruling against the rwanda policy . that's due wednesday. and they don't want a home secretary campaigning to leave the echr the european convention on human rights mark says sunak has sacrificed the conservatives and my vote to the labour party for trying to follow them down the same route back into eu compliance in the forthcoming years . and susan says the years. and susan says the government probably already know that rwanda has failed again. hence suella has been sacked. heaven help the silent majority . heaven help the silent majority. well, on saturday, more than 300,000 pro—palestine demonstrators marched through central london, calling for a ceasefire in gaza , tensions have ceasefire in gaza, tensions have been running high before the protest after the former home secretary, suella braverman,

called it a hate march. now counter—protesters also took to the streets and clashed with police near the cenotaph ahead of a service to mark armistice day armistice day on november 11th, at least 140 arrests were made and seven individuals have so far been charged. the offences include assault, possession of weapons in inciting racial hatred and possession of drugs and it's been reported that rishi sunak is looking to tighten laws to make it easier to ban marches and prosecute those glorifying terrorism. with me now is the spite columnist luke gittoes and a partner at law firm murray human. in a recent article , luke human. in a recent article, luke wrote, don't ban the armistice day demo, adding, we must defend the right to protest even for those views, we find abhorrent. luke do you still hold that view after the weekend ? after the weekend? >> absolutely, i do . >> absolutely, i do. >> absolutely, i do. >> i think these demonstrations show that we do live in a society where we have two tier policing at the moment. what we

saw over the weekend is a relatively small number of right wing demonstrators showing up to counter demonstrate and the police coming down very hard on them. we saw mass arrests, kettling and perhaps that was justified . we saw very little justified. we saw very little policing activity with respect to the pro—palestinian demonstration, even though we saw reports of anti—semitic placards , we saw racist chanting placards, we saw racist chanting , including from the river to the sea, palestine will be free and called for the disbandment of the israeli state. quite extreme stuff. and i think what we've learnt is that the police clearly made an operational decision about how to police this weekend . we know that mark this weekend. we know that mark rowley , the head of the rowley, the head of the metropolitan police, did not choose to rely on his powers to close the or to request the closing down of the demonstration, the banning of the demonstration. and i think he did that because he knew he could very heavily police the right wing nutters that showed

up to counter demonstrate and effectively let the 300,000 do what they will and then investigate any allegations and semitism later usually via . so semitism later usually via. so we've seen the met police come out with lots of tweets asking to identify those holding anti—semitic banners . and that anti—semitic banners. and that really shows you how these two demonstrations were treated. on the one hand, you have the heavy policing of the counter demonstrations and a relatively less a fair approach with respect to the main demonstration while following up with racist know allegations of racial hate. do you think later . racial hate. do you think later. >> thank luke, do you think >> thank you. luke, do you think that the different types of policing you're describing there contributed we contributed to the violence? we saw ? saw? >> well, i think the key question that people who go on these marches need to ask is what kind of cover they are providing to the racists and anti semitic contingents on the marches because it's obvious that most people might be there because they care about and lives and all of us, you know,

are horrified by what we see on the news with respect to the situation in gaza. but by showing up en masse in the way that they do, they are providing cover for some very, very nasty individuals indeed. the telegraph reported last week that this march was in part organised by organised asians with direct connections to hamas and clearly the fact that they're able to now organise a 300,000 strong demonstration gives them the cover they need to get their messaging out there and they'll know that the police will not be able to arrest them immediately because they're in a very, very large and the police are generally worried about optics whether it optics coming to whether it contributed to the violence . we contributed to the violence. we saw direct clashes between right wing protesters and the police. you know, that's par for the course since every time they show up somewhere. but i think it is partly a result of the overpolicing that they experience . they do experience experience. they do experience very, very harsh policing indeed. looks rather like a football matches used to look,

you know, the police are not afraid to use force when it comes to, you know , working comes to, you know, working class organised protests . they class organised protests. they are very happy to do so because they're not worried about the optics when it comes to those people. they are worried about the optics when it comes to those on the pro—palestinian march. >> well, listen, luke gittoes there online. thank there for spiked online. thank you joining us tonight gb you for joining us tonight on gb news. i'm joined now in the studio steve mccabe, a labour studio by steve mccabe, a labour mp oak, and the chair mp for selly oak, and the chair of labour friends israel, of labour friends of israel, steve, were on the weekends steve, were you on the weekends march? any of it march? did you see any of it happen? >> saw was on the television. >> were you surprised by the. we saw videos earlier from saw some videos earlier from richard tice about some of the anti—semitic attacks on people on it's on public transport. it's shocking, isn't it? >> absolutely shocking. and >> it's absolutely shocking. and ihope >> it's absolutely shocking. and i hope that everything that has been shown in social media will been shown in social media will be followed up when those responsible prosecute it. >> did you worry? do you worry why there aren't similar scale marches for the israelis who were murdered by hamas just over

a month ago? why is there not similar ? i mean, peter, there's similar? i mean, peter, there's different scales of bloodshed because the attacks by israel because of the attacks by israel to try and fight against hamas in gaza. is that worry you? do you think there needs to be bigger marches here? >> well, we have to remember there's only about what, 300,000 jewish people in the whole of the country. so we're not going to see marches. and i think their response is differing . i their response is differing. i think what we're seeing are small scale vigils, people worried about the hostages, because you have got these hostages being held by hamas . hostages being held by hamas. indeed. so, i mean, it's a different approach. people worried about relatives, friends, the hostages and the difficulty with the palestinian demonstrations is that under outwardly, there are a lot of well intentioned people involved. there are people who've come to believe that this is the right thing to do . but i is the right thing to do. but i think you're previous interviewing . i agree that they

interviewing. i agree that they are actually being used to a large extent by other elements in the structure who are hell bent on causing trouble and who are anti—semitic and pro hamas. the politics this is quite hard for the labour party are you worried about the vote on wednesday, which could come on the queen's speech? >> the snp have put fonnard a motion calling for ceasefire motion calling for a ceasefire here. worry that some of here. do you worry that some of your colleagues might support that way that that and jeopardise the way that the been held the parties have been held together by sir keir starmer well they won't. well i hope they won't. >> don't think it's that >> i don't think it's that likely. maybe few folk there likely. maybe a few folk there always anything like this. always is in anything like this. but i mean, think laid but i mean, i think keir is laid out what the line is. >> what's the pause? doesn't he? >> what's the pause? doesn't he? >> yes. and we have made it very clear distinction as to why a cease we all want it to end. i don't think anybody wants it to continue , but we've made continue, but we've made a pretty clear distinction between a humanity , korean pause and the a humanity, korean pause and the benefits and why we should work hard for that and why a ceasefire is just simply handing

the initiative back to hamas. >> well , steve mccabe, labour >> well, steve mccabe, labour chairman of labour, friends of israel and mp for birmingham , israel and mp for birmingham, selly oak, thank you for joining us tonight on gb news. now coming up on gb news farage special , former prime minister special, former prime minister david cameron has been hauled back into politics by rishi sunak. but what does it mean for the tory party? we'll be asking one his advisors after the one of his advisors after the break. plus, don't forget, we'll be assessing fine tooth comb with fine tooth comb. the odds with a fine tooth comb. the odds of nigel farage becoming king of the on patrick christys the jungle on patrick christys tonight. >> nine till 11 pm. on gb news suella braverman has been sacked and david cameron is back. we'll have exclusive reaction and leaked whatsapp messages that reveal exactly what tory mps make of this madness . join me. make of this madness. join me. former chancellor kwasi kwarteng. tory titan edwina currie and fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie for a massive show on a massive day. 9 to 11

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earlier on gb news radio. >> welcome back . i'm christopher >> welcome back. i'm christopher hope. gb news is political editor and this is our very own farage special. now, earlier today , the prime minister, rishi today, the prime minister, rishi sunak, took the decision to sack his home secretary theresa suella braverman forgive me. after reporting feud over a column she'd written in the times newspaper which claimed there was a perception that police have played favourites in the past when dealing with different protest movements. however, the really shocking decision of the day came from mr sunak bringing back david cameron into his cabinet as foreign secretary, moving james cleverly to replace suella braverman in the home office. are you following me? it's quite complicated. the former pm hadn't been on the front line of politics until now and will be brought back through the house of lords, where he was given his peerage his clearance peerage and his clearance earlier but there's no earlier today. but there's no doubt this represents a significant shift and is likely to those on the right of

to upset those on the right of the party . i'm joined now the tory party. i'm joined now by somebody knows david by somebody who knows david cameron well better than me pretty alex dean and the pretty well, alex dean and the tory mp and former business secretary sir jacob rees—mogg. but alex dean, to you first. you were a chief of staff to david cameron before he became leader back in 2005. you're glad your guy's back? well, it's a long time ago that i worked for him, but i've always admired his forthright position , and it's forthright position, and it's possible to think than one possible to think more than one thing once, right? thing at once, right? >> think david cameron is >> yes. i think david cameron is going a very good foreign going to be a very good foreign secretary. i he's got the secretary. i think he's got the skill it. i saw it even skill set for it. i saw it even back then. i also deplore the way that suella braverman left office. it's possible to think both at the same time. >> what is to be foreign >> what is right to be foreign secretary behind me jacob secretary behind me is jacob rees—mogg. an for north rees—mogg. he's an mp for north east he's been a east somerset. he's been a cabinet he's a cabinet minister. he's not a foreign secretary, no foreign secretary, in fact, no one, or peer as of this one, no mp or peer as of this morning is good enough to have that job. apparently bloke that job. apparently some bloke in nowhere near in the past who's nowhere near parliament is better all parliament is better than all that lot. >> this happens in >> well, this happens in business often when business quite often when someone outside an

someone from outside an organisation and organisation comes in and it puts out joint. puts noses out of joint. >> but is very angry behind >> but jake is very angry behind the you? isn't. no, the scenes. you? he isn't. no, he's the scenes. you? he isn't. no, he':|f he were put out, he'd be >> if he were put out, he'd be very civil about it. he's not. i would make is that from time to time you need to say to the people you've got already on your there's nothing wrong your team, there's nothing wrong with you're all good with you. you're all good performers. just found performers. i've just found somebody we're somebody better and if we're going functioning somebody better and if we're gnteam, functioning somebody better and if we're gnteam,you're functioning somebody better and if we're gnteam, you're going ctioning somebody better and if we're gnteam, you're going t0)ning somebody better and if we're gnteam, you're going to have to a team, you're going to have to live with it. and i think the tory party will, it's tory party will, given it's david cameron. let's find out. >> jacob rees—mogg it's tough. >> jacob rees—mogg it's tough. >> think first of all, >> well, i think first of all, it is constitutionally entirely proper a foreign proper to have a foreign secretary from the house of lords and the king creates a peer motion on. and peer by his mere motion on. and that been the constitutional that has been the constitutional position , democracy. position, a democracy. >> rees—mogg you >> jacob rees—mogg you can't talk in this talk about the king in this kind of thing. >> act on the advice of >> the king act on the advice of the prime minister, agree. a minister has a majority in the house of commons is house of commons and is therefore to therefore in a position to lindsay said today lindsay hoyle rightly said today in the house of commons, you were there 2:30 pm. he was concerned the lack concerned about the lack of ability scrutinise ability to try and scrutinise foreign policy a don't foreign policy without a don't agree role that the agree with that role that the

government speaks with one voice. this is major voice. this is a major constitutional point and it's how collective responsibility works. member of works. the most junior member of the government speaks for the government when speaking at the despatch box in the house commons. >> boss is somewhere >> but the boss is somewhere else. so whenever you question andrew number else. so whenever you question and inv number else. so whenever you question and in the number else. so whenever you question and in the foreign number else. so whenever you question and in the foreign nlheyer two in the foreign office, he will give the answer. >> that is the government's answer. a nswer. >> answer. >> so he's not the boss. the bossis >> so he's not the boss. the boss is not. >> there is a government. that's the point you're missing. it's not agree with not the bottom. i agree with alex. david cameron is a former ably able man. i may have ably able man. i may not have agreed him everything, agreed with him on everything, and disagreed with and i certainly disagreed with him europe, but he's a very him on europe, but he's a very able man. a very good able man. he's a very good performer. and i think the worry rishi is that rishi sunak should have is that he outshone david he will be outshone by david cameron. look at the cameron. when you look at the two of them on international trips, have experience trips, you have the experience statesman the statesman and you have the current prime minister. >> great point. >> great point. >> dean in part. i mean, >> alex dean in part. i mean, i agree with what jacob said about matt cameron having the ability and the gravitas. i think he's going to have to find his role in a new team. and that's i'm sure there's been conversations between the prime minister and the prime minister about

the former prime minister about that. your point, that. but more on your point, ministers in the lords appear before committees in the commons. all the time. in fact, you reported on them. chris. i have for years, for two decades, so system happens all so that that system happens all the time and indeed , if you the time and indeed, if you think about the leaders of the conservative party, both right and margaret thatcher for and left margaret thatcher for a significant period of time until the falklands had lord carrington from the lords and ted heath the entirety of ted heath for the entirety of his . his. >> this is 40 years ago, alex. we live in a democracy institution. you century started institution. you century started in of the world's great and in one of the world's great and established constitutional monarchies. >> and as jacob rightly says, it's the king is advised by our prime minister and he has been. so do you worry before we leave you, alex, about the dynamic in these meetings, as jacob rees—mogg, says on trips rees—mogg, there says on trips overseas who will foreign leaders speak to former leaders speak to the former foreign the foreign secretary, the former prime minister or the new prime minister, who's about a third of his age? >> i mean, who goes? david cameron? no. >> one of the reasons that this

is a good appointment is that he knows people and he knows the environment. mistake environment. but make no mistake about it, the foreign powers that to influence and that we seek to influence and talk to understand thing talk to understand one thing above it's power above all, and it's power and power with prime power sits with the prime minister david cameron get that? >> does david cameron get that? will not want to step in and will he not want to step in and say, well, in my i did that. say, well, in my day i did that. >> look, i mean, i know that >> i'm look, i mean, i know that guy a little bit. i'm pretty sure won't be treading on sure he won't be treading on sunak in end. he serves sunak toes in the end. he serves like the rest of the cabinet at the pleasure the prime minister. >> absolutely. well christine, thank for joining >> absolutely. well christine, thank forjoining us for thank you for joining us for coming in today. gb news. and coming in today. gb news. and coming we'll also be asking coming up, we'll also be asking a bookmaker are nigel a bookmaker what are nigel farage winning? a farage chances of winning? i'm a celebrity. here. celebrity. get me out of here. but here he discussing but first, here he is discussing his worst potential his worst and best potential fellow, campmates our worst fellow, campmates as our worst nightmare . nightmare. >> i mean, that's easy. there's thousands of them, aren't there? isn't there? mean, anybody isn't there? i mean, anybody that's aggressive remoaner that's an aggressive remoaner would be worst nightmare. that's an aggressive remoaner wou dream worst nightmare. that's an aggressive remoaner wou dream to worst nightmare. that's an aggressive remoaner wou dream to bunk nightmare. that's an aggressive remoaner wou dream to bunk nigwith.re. the dream to bunk up with. i refuse to answer that question the dream to bunk up with. i ref national|swer that question the dream to bunk up with. i ref national television question the dream to bunk up with. i ref national television .uestion on national television. >> we'll be back

soon welcome back. i'm the gb news political editor, christopher hope, and this is our very own farage special. as we've been discussing so far, not for the first time tonight , suella first time tonight, suella braverman has been sacked and my next guest has argued that it simply case of her simply wasn't a case of her being sacked by the but being sacked by the pm, but rather her being pushed by rather her being pushed out by the pressure of heaped on rather her being pushed out by the primeire of heaped on rather her being pushed out by the prime minister. heaped on rather her being pushed out by the prime minister. there'szd on rather her being pushed out by the prime minister. there's noyn rather her being pushed out by the prthe minister. there's noyn rather her being pushed out by the prthe formerer. there's noyn rather her being pushed out by the prthe former pm here's noyn rather her being pushed out by the prthe former pm had s noyn doubt the former pm had many foes, but there's also no denying that she spoke for a broad part of the electorate and particularly gb news viewers, especially for the tory base . especially for the tory base. and they were really concerned about issues like migration and crime. so suella bravermans departure is significant for the direction of the tory party, but how will it fare with the electorate? i'm joined now by the pollster and professor of politics at university, my politics at kent university, my old friend matthew goodwin. hi, chris. matthew how would you nigel farage, who is normally doing this show, he's had his phone from has

phone removed from him. he has no what's happening. it's no idea what's happening. it's almost because his old almost hilarious because his old his sparring partner, david his old sparring partner, david cameron, the man who gave him who fought over brexit in 2016, is now backing in post. what on earth would farrells be making of this were he ? and of course, of this were he? and of course, he has no idea until he gets out the jungle. >> well, i thought about that today. when he comes out, he's going david cameron back going to find david cameron back in going in government. he's just going to though he's gone in to feel as though he's gone in a time machine. and we're back in 2016. >> he'll be working in his watch. >> but this is a serious point here, chris, is what the conservative party has done today both remarkable today is both remarkable and unsurprising. and the reason i say that is it's remarkable because they've taken a punt on a man who's already been rejected the 2016 rejected by voters at the 2016 referendum. david cameron referendum. the david cameron brand conservatism never lost brand of conservatism never lost an election. david forget that. well, he lost a big referendum. chris but not an election. the david cameron brand of conservatism was rejected by voters at the brexit referendum . voters at the brexit referendum. um, okay. now i say unsurprising because i think consistently, as i've argued and you know, people

out there know on social media and othennise, that from 2016 the conservatives party has never leaned in to the rhiannon movement. the unique opportunity it had to change itself. so suella goes, she's very popular with 2019 conservatives and who comes in? david cameron. somebody who really lost touch with where conservatives is. >> they've always viewed for me as an observer and i've been with you on those those trips with you on those those trips with farage. watch. >> i remember them well. >> i remember them well. >> address those halls >> watch him address those halls in grimsby, in places where brexit really mattered . for me, brexit really mattered. for me, it's an opportunity to be grasped. that's what farage got hold of. and the brexiteers not a problem to be solved. and that's where the cameron ites came in. >> well, here's the thing, right there been more space there has never been more space in for politics a new in british for politics a new anti establishment party as there is to reform. >> uk exists. there is, yeah. >> uk exists. there is, yeah. >> there is never there's never been as much space as there is today. and i that not just today. and i say that not just because of immigration being 600,000. figures coming 600,000. the next figures coming out don't that

out next week. i don't say that just clearly just because of the clearly visible problems over multiculturalism with the hamas sympathisers and the protests after israel. i don't say it because of the broken political economy those things. economy and all of those things. i say it because clearly the people really do people in westminster really do not understand where the rest of the country are. >> chris, the polls aren't saying that reform is still, still trending at nine, seven points, points. richard points, nine points. richard tice early eat if tice early will eat his hat if he does deal at the next he does a deal at the next election with with dropped candidates against tory mps. it's not cutting you it's not cutting through. you are where's the are saying that. where's the proof? i think firstly when it >> well i think firstly when it comes reform, think they're comes to reform, i think they're struggling things. one struggling with two things. one is and other is, is visibility and the other is, you having that big you know, having that big present charismatic figure like like nigel farage reform to me today reminds me of where ukip were when we started writing about them in 2012, 2013, they were on 5% then. then they were on seven, then they were on nine, then they were on 11, 12, 13 and so on. so so i think they're going to become a problem for rishi sunak there's

another problem, though, chris, which apathy. of which is apathy. a lot of conservatives at home, i bet a lot of people watching this show are thinking, you know, come the next probably next election when i probably won't at all. and that is won't vote at all. and that is going to be as big a challenge to rishi sunak reform. to rishi sunak as reform. >> problem going back >> that was a problem going back through by elections this through the by elections this yean year. so what does that reshuffle make reshuffle done today to make those voters conservative? those voters vote conservative? nothing >> nothing, nothing all. the >> nothing, nothing at all. the only willing only conservative who is willing to consensus on to challenge the consensus on immigration and multiculturalism, pro multiculturalism, who was pro brexit, all of those things. she's gone now, chris, you might say look, suella wasn't say to me, look, suella wasn't she wasn't a competent minister or, know, she things or, you know, she said things that secretary shouldn't that a home secretary shouldn't say, but say, whatever, whatever. but but the is, conservative the point is, the conservative party doesn't seem to party itself now doesn't seem to have any frontline politicians who can articulate and speak for the people who took a punt on the people who took a punt on the in 2019. and that is the party in 2019. and that is why predicting a heavy why i'm predicting a heavy election defeat for the conservatives. >> even worse now post this reshuffle. oh, much worse. >> much worse. >> much worse. >> you've written a book, haven't you, about the elite? are the elite happy with david cameron back in government? of course are. of course they

are. >> i mean, look what makes me nervous about british politics. and thoughts and you'll have thoughts on this. me, whether this. what worries me, whether you're on the left, whether you're on the left, whether you're right, whether you're on the right, whether you're on the right, whether you're centre. you're on the right, whether you here's centre. you're on the right, whether you here's what ntre. you're on the right, whether you here's what worries me. >> here's what worries me. >> here's what worries me. >> all of the people who have challenged elite consensus challenged the elite consensus in recent years boris in recent years are gone. boris johnson gone . liz truss gone. johnson gone. liz truss gone. suella braverman gone. >> jeremy corbyn gone. >> jeremy corbyn gone. so, >> jeremy corbyn gone. so, so what worries me is we have a consensus in politics that i think represents 20% of the country maximum. everybody country maximum. but everybody who's challenged that by supporting brexit, by criticising immigration, by saying we should have a different economy, has eventually been forced out . now, eventually been forced out. now, what of democracy is that what kind of democracy is that when have radical alternatives? >> it's not democratic to have a pm appointed by other mps to bnng pm appointed by other mps to bring back his old pal who wasn't even a peer at the time or an mp. i'm very surprised. democratic. >> i'm very surprised by rishi sunak. at his sunak. i've just looked at his instagram coming on this instagram before coming on this show him show and the picture is, is him and david cameron in a kind of warm embrace. and i thought to myself, you advertising warm embrace. and i thought to mysto, you advertising warm embrace. and i thought to mysto voters? you advertising warm embrace. and i thought to mysto voters? thisu advertising warm embrace. and i thought to mysto voters? this isrdvertising

warm embrace. and i thought to mysto voters? this is the rtising this to voters? this is the opposite of what your voters want. and if look the want. and if you look at the polling, chris, today, yougov, it shows most 2019 conservative think david cameron's appointment is the wrong a grown up. >> there's a problem around sunak team know sunak a young team don't know what they to have someone what they want to have someone experience in the team with them i >> -- >> do em- >> do know what i think is >> do you know what i think is going on? i think you have a lot of people around. rishi sunak who spent way too much time who have spent way too much time in westminster don't in sw1 in westminster and don't understand in sw1 in westminster and don't unde party. their party. >> well, matthew goodwin, professor of politics at kent university, thank for university, thank you for joining coming in to gb joining us. and coming in to gb news tonight. now, someone who would be outraged to see david cameron entering the doors, number i said number 10 would be, as i said before, farage, who today before, nigel farage, who today announced he'd be heading heading to i'm heading down under to join i'm a celebrity get me out of here. he has idea that , of course, the has no idea that, of course, the david cameron's back in government. looked fonnard to government. we looked fonnard to see eruption when see his mini eruption when emerged as the jungle. eventually, in a few weeks time. but australia but before he left for australia , with my colleague gb , he spoke with my colleague gb news ben leo. >> dig it this year, i mean, they've every year they've asked me every year since 2016 the jungle. since 2016 to go in the jungle. i always thought, no, it's not

the right time for me to do it, but can't it next year but i can't do it next year because got general because we've got general election american election. we've got american presidential election . so this presidential election. so this year i'm kind of free in a way to do it. year i'm kind of free in a way to do it . you know, the to do it. you know, the referendum was a long time ago. there are a lot of young people out there don't know who i am. don't i stand for. don't know what i stand for. this my big chance to reach this is my big chance to reach a really big audience of young people, which i think it'll be good for me and i think also very good for gb news as well. that's one reason for doing it. second reason for doing you second reason for doing it, you know, for over 40 years, i've lived by the clock. whether it was working in financial markets, whether it was in the european parliament, whether it's radio broadcaster, it's being a radio broadcaster, a television a a television broadcaster, a speaker . and i've lived on news speaker. and i've lived on news or numbers, information to go away from all of that for several weeks is one really big challenge to confront things that are obviously frightening. but have to deal with them and come through them. the upsides

are obvious. there obvious you reach a whole new big audience once you test yourself in a way that you haven't done for years, you make good money in doing it. upsides are obvious . the upsides are obvious. the downsides? look, it could downsides? well, look, it could be complete car be a complete megxit total car crash disaster for, you know, i might finish up having a fight crash disaster for, you know, i migrsomebody having a fight crash disaster for, you know, i migrsomebody or|ving a fight crash disaster for, you know, i migrsomebody or who a fightyou with somebody or who knows you know, get voted out on know, i might get voted out on the first round. i just i don't know. but i know that things could badly wrong. and could go very badly wrong. and you're on camera, you know, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for up to 22 days that the contests could be in the jungle. so of course, a lot could go wrong. but, hey, i mean, you know, whoever did anything in life was worthwhile without life that was worthwhile without taking risk . taking a risk. >> well, there he is , nigel >> well, there he is, nigel farage on the way into the jungle. but the question is, will he become king of that jungle? i'm joined now by the pr manager ladbrokes , alex manager of ladbrokes, alex apati. alex what are the odds of our colleague nigel farage winning? i'm a celebrity get me out of here. >> good evening, mate. well, i'm just currently looking into

pricing up nigel farage to get in a fight after that interview . in a fight after that interview. >> but in terms of the outright odds himself, it's been a pretty good week actually for him or four days or so. he's currently 8 to 1 in the betting . when he 8 to 1 in the betting. when he was first announced, he was around the 1 mark. so he's around the 16 to 1 mark. so he's in a pretty good position. he's got every reason at the moment to feel confident as things stand there are only four names in the betting that are considered more likely than him to king or queen of to be crowned king or queen of the jungle. josie gibson currently leads the way at 7 to 2. fred sirieix is a 4 to 1 shot made in chelsea . sam thompson is made in chelsea. sam thompson is 9 to 2, and frankie dettori the punters, the horse racing fan's favourite is a 6 to 1 shot. as things stand. so as i say, it could be much, much worse for nigel. >> thanks alex. sorry i was laughing at nigel's legs. i've never seen his knees before in all the time. i've known him for 20 years. he's got. he's got a chance, of course, because he's

got those voters voted for him when he ukip party. and when he ran the ukip party. and the brexit party hasn't he? he's got this of this big army of people want support him people who want to support him that him head that might give him a head start. surely >> i think it's a really interesting position that he's interesting position that he's in and one that he'll i'm in and it's one that he'll i'm sure, be no , you know, he's with sure, be no, you know, he's with no doubt will he know that there's going to be two camps here? there's going to be the side that are backing him. and we're that he's we're already seeing that he's one of the most popular picks with punters. he's currently our second in the second biggest loser in the betting moment. but also betting at the moment. but also there's going to be people that are guess, in a similar are i guess, in a similar fashion to matt hancock, ready to back for every bushtucker to back him for every bushtucker trial. so of the trial. so in terms of the specials, specifically for nigel farage, we have 10 to 1 for nigel farage, two to quit at any point in the 22 days. and listen, you guys know him better than than we do. do you think he's a quitter? is he going to walk out of there? >> no, he's nana akua he's staying as long as he can. he's going to have a great time. well, listen, thank you, alex

apati from ladbrokes forjoining apati from ladbrokes for joining us. up next, we have us. now, coming up next, we have patrick christys tonight. patrick, what's coming up? >> going in >> well, look, we're going in strong straight away. we've got some whatsapp some leaked tory whatsapp messages from behind the curtains. the curtains. tell you what the tories are really feeling. andrea jenkins is handed a letter of no confidence in. she wants charge for wants to lead the charge for other to same. she other mps to do the same. she will join for us an exclusive. kwasi kwarteng, former chancellor, us for an chancellor, joins us for an exclusive. have our exclusive. and we also have our box panel as well. we've box office panel as well. we've got de lucy, carole got belinda de lucy, carole malone, benjamin buttennorth got belinda de lucy, carole msmattering amin buttennorth got belinda de lucy, carole msmattering arrkelvintennorth got belinda de lucy, carole msmattering arr kelvin mackenzie a smattering of kelvin mackenzie for entertaining paper for the most entertaining paper of will see on us. of view. you will see on us. >> that sounds amazing. your first and the first of first show and the first of many. can't to watch it, many. i can't wait to watch it, but for that's for me. but for now, that's all for me. and to the weather. and over to the weather. >> evening . and over to the weather. >> evening. i'm and over to the weather. >> evening . i'm alex deakin >> good evening. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. four gb will be a case gb news tomorrow will be a case of of showers gusty of lots of showers and gusty winds some sunny spells, winds with some sunny spells, particularly in the afternoon across the south today. we've been dealing with storm debby heading out now into the north sea, it's produced quite sea, but it's produced quite a lot of gusty winds through the day it's still producing

day and it's still producing some weather eastern some wet weather in eastern scotland slowly ease scotland that will slowly ease through there'll be through the night. there'll be showers south, some showers further south, some clearer spells in between the heavy showers and still a breezy night for most, although the winds, i say, will be easing winds, as i say, will be easing down as the storm clears through. temperatures as the winds northern scotland , winds ease in northern scotland, maybe off freezing, maybe not far off freezing, actually, places as mid actually, but most places as mid to high figures, 10 or 11 to high single figures, 10 or 11 in south. now the in the south. now in the southwest, some very heavy rain comes dawn and this comes in around dawn and this band of heavy with thunder band of heavy rain with thunder storms way across storms works its way across southern during the southern counties during the morning. do morning. met office do have a yellow warning in place. a lot of rain falling a short of heavy rain falling in a short space time and some gusty space of time and some gusty winds as well flashes of winds as well as flashes of lightning rumbles of lightning and rumbles of thunder. clears, it does thunder. as that clears, it does turn in south. turn brighter in the south. further north, lots of cloud and plenty showers plenty more showers to come throughout rain just throughout the day. so rain just coming and staying coming and going and staying pretty breezy again on wednesday, certainly across most of england of scotland. northern england expect showers as there'll expect more showers as there'll be a feed of showers coming into the coast of northern the north coast of northern ireland. scotland the north coast of northern irela turn scotland the north coast of northern irela turn brighter scotland the north coast of northern irela turn brighter andicotland the north coast of northern irela turn brighter and drier.1d the north coast of northern irela turn brighter and drier. not may turn brighter and drier. not too in the south on too many showers in the south on wednesday, a decent chance of a

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