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nothing. he doesn't know lutely. nothing. he doesn't know that suella has been fired. he doesn't know that david cameron has now been ennobled and is the foreign secretary, let alone knowing anything about the big news today . this bombshell news today. this bombshell letter from m. suella braverman that may well be the sinking of rishi sunak. we'll be obviously talking about that with some great guests. i've also secured some incredible new drone footage of some of the migrant camps out side calais. you will not want to miss that . i can not want to miss that. i can absolutely guarantee you . and of absolutely guarantee you. and of course, we need to understand what's going on in the jungle before the show starts. we'll be talking currie about talking to edwina currie about what nigel will be experiencing as we speak. all of that coming up.and as we speak. all of that coming up. and farage here on . gb news. up. and farage here on. gb news. >> good evening. and the top story from the newsroom tonight , story from the newsroom tonight, in an astonishing rebuke
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following her sacking as home secretary yesterday, suella braverman has today accused the prime minister of having manifestly and repeatedly failed to deliver on key government policies. ms braverman accused rishi sunak of a betrayal of his promise to do whatever it took to stop small boat crossings by failing to override human rights. concerns about her rwanda plan. she also urged the prime minister in her letter to change course urgently telling him he'd led the conservatives to record election defeats while the shadow minister for international development, lisa nandy, reacted like this . nandy, reacted like this. >> suella bravermans letter is just the latest instalment in a tory psychodrama thats been playing out over the last 13 years, is holding the rest of the country to ransom while the tories fight among themselves . tories fight among themselves. this reshuffle was meant to be the moment when rishi sunak reset his leadership when he signalled to the country that he stands for change. but with the
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return of david cameron and the ongoing row with suella braverman, i think all he served to do is just show that this is a tory government that is out of ideas of energy . ideas or out of energy. >> lisa nandy speaking there . >> lisa nandy speaking there. now downing street says the prime minister discussed the ongoing challenge faced by the metropolitan police in london in his debrief with sir mark rowley. after last saturdays. unrest near the cenotaph . number unrest near the cenotaph. number 10 says rishi sunak stressed the vital importance of pursuing both hamas supporters and those responsible for violence . scenes responsible for violence. scenes near the war memorial on armistice day, the commissioner had come under pressure from politicians after several weeks of demonstrations for a ceasefire in the escalating conflict between israel and hamas. number 10 said the powers available to officers to deal with protests would be kept under review to see if they needed to be beefed up . needed to be beefed up. meanwhile, the uk has announced sanctions against four hamas leaders and two of the terror group's financiers. it's one of
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david cameron's first moves as foreign secretary. they'll be made subject to travel bans, asset freezes and arms embargoes that prohibits the sale of weapons to any of those individuals . and the business individuals. and the business and trade secretary is in florida today to boost trade and investment with the fourth largest us state. kemi badenoch signed an agreement with the florida governor, ron desantis earlier on today, which will help make it quicker, easier and cheaper for uk and florida firms to do business with one another. and lastly, his majesty king charles has hosted a reception for nhs staff at buckingham palace as part of his 75th birthday celebrations . it comes birthday celebrations. it comes as the nhs also marks its 75th anniversary with 400 nurses and midwives set to attend the royal event. midwives set to attend the royal event . earlier, the monarch event. earlier, the monarch travelled to oxfordshire to launch the coronation food project alongside queen camilla, hoping to bridge the gap between food waste and food . need with
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food waste and food. need with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> thank you, polly. and yes , >> thank you, polly. and yes, i'm standing in for for nigel these weeks. he's down in the jungle. he knows nothing about what is going on. it's utterly extraordinary . see this three extraordinary. see this three page letter from the former home secretary suella braverman is absolute dynamite . if you absolute dynamite. if you haven't read it. if you haven't got your got yourself a copy. whatever you do, get a copy onune whatever you do, get a copy online and print it. read it. it is extraordinary. i've never read anything quite like it. and my simple question to you this evening has suella letter sunk sunak has suella sunk sunak. that's the question for this evening . send us an email farage
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evening. send us an email farage at gbnews.com with your thoughts on that. has suella. so ank sunak. i have to say it is absolutely shocking. i didn't know that there was a written agreement in october 22nd when suella braverman agreed to back sunaks second leadership attempt that she said was pivotal in him securing it. there was this written agreement which included four critical pledges . is that four critical pledges. is that suella braverman says he has now utterly failed on. the first one is to do with migration . on the is to do with migration. on the second one is to do with the technicalities of the legislature action to stop the boats and on echr the third one is on deliver ing the northern ireland protocol and the retained eu law bills . and the retained eu law bills. and the fourth one is about about the statutory guidance on protecting biological sex, protecting our children, safeguarding our
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children, safeguarding our children, she says . and i just children, she says. and i just read this out, it's absolutely incredible. you have manifestly and repeatedly failed , failed to and repeatedly failed, failed to deliver on every single one of these these key policies, either your distinctive style of government means you are incapable of doing so, or she goes on. i must surely conclude now . now, you never had any now. now, you never had any intention of keeping your promises . she goes on. i can promises. she goes on. i can only surmise is that this is because you have no appetite for doing what is necessary and therefore no real intention of fulfilling your pledge to the british people . i mean, just british people. i mean, just think about that for a second. what the former home secretary is actually doing is she is accusing the prime minister of the united kingdom not only of misleading her in writing back in october 2022, but much more
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importantly, of mislead and indeed of lying to the british people from the former home secretary. i mean, this is absolutely olutely dynamite. the letter goes on and i'll be exploring it in more detail. the fact that she's basically saying he's abandoned those , his key he's abandoned those, his key pledges, he's failed on all of them. and that actually his style of government, he refused to have any form of plan b with regard to the rwanda decision, which , of course, we're which, of course, we're expecting the supreme court judgement tomorrow . absolutely judgement tomorrow. absolutely seismic . so judgement tomorrow. absolutely seismic. so i'm delighted to be joined now with my first guest on the show this evening, baroness kate hoey, the former chair of the northern ireland affairs select committee , and of affairs select committee, and of course, a former labour mp for vauxhall. kate a very good evening. thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining us on farage at this extraordinary time . i must ask extraordinary time. i must ask kate, you've been in politics
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for, with the greatest of respect, a long time. have you have you ever seen or read such a seismic resignation letter from any minister to the prime minister >> no, i haven't, and i haven't seen any letter that's been from someone who's resigned . that is someone who's resigned. that is someone who's resigned. that is so clearly principled and actually not. you know, i'm sure actually not. you know, i'm sure a lot of suella braverman opponents will try to say that this is just a, you know, a woman scorned or somebody who's been been kicked out of a job. it is very clear that she feels passionately that she has been let down 100% by the prime minister and, of course, none of us knew that she had made had that written committee moments with the for suggestions of or for agreements that the prime minister had agreed to before she supported him. and let's not forget that suella braverman coming out and supporting rishi sunak really made the difference
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at that time. absolutely crucial . and i'm of course most interested in the fact that she had and i'm not surprised at this that she had got a commitment from rishi sunak to look at the protocol to change things in the protocol and to bnngin things in the protocol and to bring in the protocol bill, because that was very, very important. she was one of the few senior conservatives who actually opposed the protocol and has been very strong on this. so i think that bit to me and to people in northern ireland will be just another example of how i'm afraid the prime minister has sold out part of the united kingdom and i think that's the key point. >> kate. i wanted to dig into in detail with you because the northern ireland protocol was so controversial . and of course, controversial. and of course, one of the great opportunities of brexit cutting daft eu regulated options, it's really significant that that that she got that in writing and she's accusing the prime minister of essentially abandoning that betraying that. and to a degree,
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kate , do you think that she's kate, do you think that she's really saying the prime minister is basically abandoning . brexit is basically abandoning. brexit >> well, i think from some of his appointees points. and you know, david cameron, don't forget, the staying in forget, led the staying in campaign . it it clearly shows campaign. it it clearly shows that and some of the policies that and some of the policies that he's not adopted that the prime minister, although he always says that he was a leaver. we never actually saw him on the campaign trail, hasn't taken advantage of what could have happened after we've left. but more importantly , left. but more importantly, seems to be almost blocking things that would show that we really were moving on. and the protocol , of course, he's saying protocol, of course, he's saying the windsor framework now, as it's called, as one of his great attributes of one of the great things he's achieved when actually week by week we get statutory instruments here in the house of commons, the house of actually drive of lords, which actually drive northern ireland further and further away. but, you know, for me also the saddest thing is that all those people in the red wall seats who came out and
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voted to leave and then saw that they were actually going to be able to deliver, get that delivered , have been let down delivered, have been let down very badly. and think suella braverman feels that strongly and knows and that's why and knows that. and that's why she put into one of her four tests for rishi sunak, for she supported him was to deal with eu , the eu and the protocol and eu, the eu and the protocol and that hasn't happened. so you know, but of course i think what we have to say, richard, don't underestimate the way that the conservative party when it's under attack like this and the leader, you know, people will begin to kind of coalesce and unite. there will be a lot of opposition to what suella braverman said. and she will be, you know , ostracised. she will you know, ostracised. she will be condemned. but out there on the grassroots , it's i think the grassroots, it's i think there'll be a lot of people who think she is speaking really for them. i think that's right. >> and interestingly , kate, you >> and interestingly, kate, you may have seen the prime minister's pretty short response. he doesn't deny the existence of that written deal back in october 2022, which
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again, i think is for many serious brexiteers and of course suella braverman was one of the brexiteers spartans. i think that will be really significant. yes >> and i expect we will see the details of that. i imagine that she is at some stage may well want to publish that , which will want to publish that, which will of course will be even more damning in a sense, because it's not just her having a, you know, a drink or a cup of coffee with rishi sunak and saying, i'll support you if you agree these things. if it was formally written down, it meant that she was very serious about it and he obviously was serious about it. if you know, if he supposedly, you know, signed it, he signed to signed up to it, he signed up to it, then, you know, now he has shown he's reneged on it. shown that he's reneged on it. so very, important so it's a very, very important and think what it does do is and i think what it does do is actually make it very, very unlikely will be any unlikely that there will be any form restoring stormont in form of restoring stormont in northern ireland. now, when rishi sunak has so much seems to have gone back so, so much on on his promises. >> well, that's right , because
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>> well, that's right, because of course he's filled his his cabinet with more remainers and removed some of the more committed brexiteers. kate, thank you so much. >> didn't remove one, didn't remove the one person that everyone in northern ireland had thought would be removed, which was state for was the secretary of state for northern used to be was the secretary of state for n strong used to be was the secretary of state for n strong brexiteer used to be was the secretary of state for n strong brexiteer but used to be was the secretary of state for n strong brexiteer but seems) be was the secretary of state for n strong brexiteer but seems to e a strong brexiteer but seems to have completely had a what is it, conversion it, a conversion on.7 >> that's it's extraordinary i >> -- >> kate, thank you so much. indeed for sharing those thoughts on this really significant day that is baroness kate hoey. her thoughts , the kate hoey. her thoughts, the first thoughts on this letter from the former home secretary just seriously, if you haven't got a copy, get hold of it and read it. i'm delighted now to be joined down the line by tim stanley , the daily telegraph stanley, the daily telegraph columnist , stanley, the daily telegraph columnist, very stanley, the daily telegraph columnist , very experienced, columnist, very experienced, also in matters politics with his thoughts. tim, a very good evening. thank you for that. you'll have heard the baroness there with her thoughts specifically on the brexit issues. what i wanted cover issues. what i wanted to cover with you, tim, hit on
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with you, tim, please hit on farage is how how significant is it within the conservative party andindeed it within the conservative party and indeed government circles is that she's accusing the prime minister of misleading her, but much more importantly, mislead leading the british people about some of these key elements , some some of these key elements, some excuse me, some moderates might think that it was a fool ever to have made a private arrangement. >> braverman why he did >> suella braverman why he did that, not quite sure . that, i'm not quite sure. although if you cast your mind back, one two back, she was one of two endorsements were critical back, she was one of two ensunak|ents were critical back, she was one of two ensunak getting were critical back, she was one of two en sunak getting to nere critical back, she was one of two ensunak getting to becomeical back, she was one of two ensunak getting to become prime to sunak getting to become prime minister. her and kemi badenoch, he had to sort of tie the right into himself in to order win and prove that he was able to command all factions of the party. so some people will be saying, you to saying, why did you agree to this suella this anyway, with suella braverman side? but braverman on the side? but i think, frankly, many mps are going to say this is embarrassing, but we are not going to push for leadership challenge because know we've challenge because we know we've only a few months left of a only got a few months left of a government. rishi sunak is all
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we've got there's simply no we've got and there's simply no point a stand against him point taking a stand against him . i think it . the way in which i think it huns . the way in which i think it hurts reputational . it hurts him is reputational. it turns off that corner of the country which might still be prepared to vote conservative if they thought the conservatives were dealing with them straightforwardly on immigration. ian so it's going to it's going to alienate gb news viewers. it's going to alienate readers . alienate some telegraph readers. it's going to alienate some of the of the red wall which the parts of the red wall which voted conservative for the first time and going time in 2019. and it's going to put of the tory put the backs up of the tory right the parliamentary right within the parliamentary party. this ain't to party. so this ain't going to bnng party. so this ain't going to bring it's bring rishi sunak down, but it's going alienate the grassroots going to alienate the grassroots and going to confirm the and it's going to confirm the impression in some voters minds , impression in some voters minds, as is really as rishi sunak is really motivated by what's good for rishi sunak that he's all style and no substance and that you can't really trust that he's going to fix the immigration problem. >> that's right. he does seem to be weakening significantly on immigration. that, of course, was part of those those two of the four key pledges regarding immigration. and he's abandoning that. and i mean, the foreign
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the new foreign secretary, of course , was pretty course, was pretty pro—immigration. do you think finally, tim, that this this actually almost triggers a civil war within the conservative party, within the government or do you think that actually people will sort of hunker around the prime minister to protect him? >> no, it won't trigger a civil war at all. one problem is the suella braverman, although she is on the right wing figure, does not have a large following within the parliamentary party. she doesn't command support on the say, kemi the scale of, say, a kemi badenoch. problem badenoch. another problem is that reshuffled his that he has reshuffled his government his government is government and his government is now tight pretty now pretty tight and pretty loyal to rishi sunak. one way in which i think this is a problem for him is that he brought in david cameron a golly wiez david cameron as a golly wiez over weekend and now it over the weekend and now it actually looks like a, i think a bit of mistake because as if bit of a mistake because as if suella bravermans story is rishi sunakis suella bravermans story is rishi sunak is lying to you about being conservative on immigration conservative on immigration and conservative on brexit. well, isn't that confirmed by bringing back david cameron, a man associated with
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the referendum with campaigning for remain overnight? it goes from david cameron back as a figure of stability to right the ship , to david cameron actually ship, to david cameron actually being in his presence in the cabinet, being an indicted agent of everything that suella braverman is saying is wrong about rishi sunak finally to him, essentially , is he just him, essentially, is he just shoring up the blue wall and abandoning the brexiteers , abandoning the brexiteers, abandoning the brexiteers, abandoning the brexiteers, abandoning the red wall, abandon ing, levelling up? intriguingly, the lib dems say you're correct that this is about moving back towards the centre in to order capture and hold on to the southern vote. there is a theory that rishi sunak has consigned himself to losing gracefully that he just wants to lose in a way that his mates will say rishi, you tried your best and you remained a moderate throughout there was a little bit of flirtation with populism earlier this year when you started talking about green staff and when you started talking about i know what a woman is , but it looks as though
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woman is, but it looks as though with the appointment david with the appointment of david cameron, he's just cameron, that, yes, he's just trying to hold on to the traditional heartlands of the conservative party and to win approval of commentators like william hague . william hague. >> tim stanley, thank you so much. indeed telegraph columnist with his thoughts there. he says that actually the conservative party will shelter, will protect the prime minister and that it's not going to trigger a civil war. i'd be interested in your thoughts. my question, of course, before we to course, before we go to the break, actually, sunk break, actually, has suella sunk ? sunak that's the question. you know, the email farage. gbnews.com. after the break, gb news.com. after the break, we'll gbnews.com. after the break, we'll be picking up more on this, looking in detail at the immigration pledges and how he potentially has broken them. stay with us. it's farage on .
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radio. >> welcome back to farage on gb news with me, richard tice and i
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asked you folks at home, has suella sunk ? sunak has suella suella sunk? sunak has suella sunk? sunak and these are your thoughts? many many emails coming in. but john says sunak sunk. sunak thank you, john, for that. nigel says the letter suella has written to sunak is an absolute bombshell. proves what we all know. sunak has to go . we knew he wasn't up to it go. we knew he wasn't up to it all talk, no action. well, nigel is pretty clear. another viewer says i fervently hope that suella has sunk sunak. we need to remove him before he does further damage to our country. pretty damning. some of these views. andrew says . i sincerely views. andrew says. i sincerely hope that sunak is sunk. he's a traitor in modern times . not traitor in modern times. not much love for the prime minister there. well, a couple of the key items, a couple of the key elements of the deal, all that suella braverman secured apparently back in october last year with the prime minister related to immigration, both
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lawful and unlawful. and i just want to look at the second page of her letter with my next guest regarding what happens is tomorrow, depending on this critical decision from our own supreme court on the rwanda ruling , because the question is ruling, because the question is what happens either way, whether the government wins or or whether the government loses ? whether the government loses? i'm delighted to be joined now from central london by shoaib khan down the line. shoaib, thank you so much for joining khan down the line. shoaib, thank you so much forjoining us on farage on gb news. this is a pretty significant letter from suella braverman. some some real detail in there about what may happen depending on the ruling from the supreme court tomorrow , from the supreme court tomorrow, which we expect, i think around about 10:00. and essentially, she sort of saying that it's now there could have been a win win, but i think from reading this letter, she's really saying because of what the prime minister did or didn't do, actually , it's now the risk of a actually, it's now the risk of a lose lose. what are your
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thoughts on her allegations here? >> yes , thanks. i mean, firstly, >> yes, thanks. i mean, firstly, what a letter. i mean, i did always wonder what it would be that would make me agree with suella braverman. but it now turns out her resigning . is it? turns out her resigning. is it? i mean, it was looking at this letter of what she's letter most of what she's saying, particularly about the prime he prime minister, you know, he keeps he can't keep. keeps promises he can't keep. he's weak. indecisive , he's weak. he's indecisive, generally useless , i think. generally useless, i think. yeah.i generally useless, i think. yeah. i mean, that's what everyone's been saying. and if that's tory frontbench that's what the tory frontbench thinks, what the thinks, just imagine what the rest of us think about. but yes, i mean, on the points you raised, the legal points themselves , obviously the themselves, obviously the situation tomorrow , as people situation tomorrow, as people have been saying, you know, lawyers saying from lawyers have been saying from the obviously , initially the start, obviously, initially the start, obviously, initially the out be, the government turned out to be, you know, very confident about their position, suggesting that they would win. they were sure it's legal. they have been saying for years, particularly when patel broke the when priti patel broke the policy. are sure it is policy. and we are sure it is lawful, we are sure that it complies all our legal complies with all our legal obligations. but now turns obligations. but now it turns out , looking obligations. but now it turns out, looking at this letter, that they weren't really that
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out, looking at this letter, that 1and weren't really that out, looking at this letter, that 1and evenl't really that out, looking at this letter, that 1and even withinly that sure. and even within government, were quite government, they were quite confident they may may in confident that they may may in fact now obviously, i fact lose. now obviously, i mean, from the government's point view, someone like point of view, someone like suella braverman, they point of view, someone like suella argue rman, they point of view, someone like suella argue is, an, they point of view, someone like suella argue is, well, they point of view, someone like suella argue is, well, we'reey would argue is, well, we're doing but doing everything lawfully, but the disagrees with the supreme court disagrees with us, sure you know us, which i'm sure you know would offensive and insulting would be offensive and insulting to our supreme suggesting to our supreme court, suggesting that stopping the that it's stopping the government what it is government doing what it is lawfully allowed to do. but, yes , i mean, looking at this, we understand, course, even understand, of course, that even the is now perhaps the government is now perhaps planning or thinking that it might lose. so yes, we just have to wait and see what the supreme court actually decides tomorrow because she's essentially saying that the government that if the government loses, then then the prime minister didn't take the option unity to have a plan b ? have a plan b? >> look, i come from the world of business. you always have a plan b because you have to assume plan a won't always work. and if he hasn't got a plan b, then saying you've then she's saying you've basically wasted a year. nothing will be able to happen. and that essentially that's betraying the pledges to stop the boats to the
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british people. do you agree with her assessment on that ? with her assessment on that? >> well , i with her assessment on that? >> well, i mean, i think we have to take her word for it. from what you know about what was happening between her and the prime but even if she prime minister. but even if she what saying is talking what she is saying is talking about past one year, the about the past one year, the rwanda developed rwanda scheme wasn't developed or one ago. or introduced one year ago. what's been happening in the past year is just it's been going through the courts. so the point even then, you know, point is, even then, you know, you about the you say you talk about the business world, but generally as a don't really a lawyer, you don't really start planning you know, planning the you know, developing once things developing a plan b once things have court. the point is have got to court. the point is why you have plan b, have got to court. the point is why c you have plan b, have got to court. the point is why c before| have plan b, have got to court. the point is why c before you'e plan b, have got to court. the point is why c before you actually b, plan c before you actually announce a that's you announce plan a, that's when you know priti know whether that was priti patel . in i'm not patel. and in fact, if i'm not wrong, wrong, maybe was wrong, not wrong, maybe it was suella who was suella braverman who was attorney general at that time. perhaps she was. and when this was that her perhaps she was. and when this was at that her perhaps she was. and when this was at the that her perhaps she was. and when this was at the time that her perhaps she was. and when this was at the time to that her perhaps she was. and when this was at the time to look, ier role at the time to say, look, legally, is not a feasible legally, this is not a feasible plan. to other plan. we need to look at other options? well, course, she options? well, of course, she didn't. wanted to, didn't. priti patel wanted to, you out with a bang. you know, go out with a bang. she announcement and she made that announcement and then, and then suella then, you know, and then suella braverman obviously just took it and ran it. but even the
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and ran with it. but even the past few months since the high court found firstly that it was lawful , the court appeal lawful, the court of appeal decided it wasn't. and now for the past few months, it's been in the supreme court. now it's far too late to be thinking are what are doing? you know, is what are we doing? you know, is this plan legal or not? now it's in courts hands, so i don't in the courts hands, so i don't really quite with really quite agree with that assessment the assessment of just putting the blame rishi sunak. the point blame on rishi sunak. the point is, is home secretary's plan is, is the home secretary's plan she have made was she should have made sure it was lawful, but she's accusing him of essentially preventing that. >> but even if the government wins , show she's wins tomorrow, show up, she's basically this will basically saying, and this will be a real shock, i think, to millions people and millions of people up and down the people be the country. people will not be swiftly removed as originally proposed. the average claimant will still be entitled to months of process , challenge and of process, challenge and appeal. so anybody expecting a plane to take off within a few daysis plane to take off within a few days is going to be sorely dissed, appointed. and then she goes on to say something very technical regarding what's called the rule 39 indication lines and that the prime minister says they are binding
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in international law. they come from the echr, from the european court of human rights. so essentially that we're still going to be thwarted by strasbourg. that strasbourg. is that your understanding of the rules, even if the government wins and obviously , there is a chance. obviously, there is a chance. >> i mean, you know, the further legal course of action if the appellants, i.e, the asylum seekers lose tomorrow and the policy is found to be lawful , policy is found to be lawful, then of course there is further recourse to the european court of human rights. and in fact, i would disagree with her assessment. in fact, her legal analysis , i most analysis, as i think most lawyers do in terms of rule 39, the court itself , the practice the court itself, the practice direction is on the court's website very clearly says that rule 39 interim measures are binding on member states. so i'm not sure , you know, she seems to not sure, you know, she seems to be suggesting we advise the prime minister that they're not binding. followed to he binding. and he followed to he refused to follow that. so i think he probably correct to think he was probably correct to do . if they are binding, you do so. if they are binding, you know, obviously the points you raise generally about leaving
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raise is generally about leaving the echr and so on. do we want to a member of that? i mean, to be a member of that? i mean, i would be appalling i think would be appalling tragedy did leave, tragedy if we did leave, obviously. that's a separate obviously. but that's a separate thing. but the is, while obviously. but that's a separate thirare3ut the is, while obviously. but that's a separate thirare3umember is, while obviously. but that's a separate thirare3umember thathile obviously. but that's a separate thirare3umember that court, we are a member of that court, we are a member of that court, we to abide by its rulings. we have to abide by its rulings. if a judge makes a decision, then is binding on us. >> i think millions of people will be astonished that if our own supreme court backs the government , backs the policy government, backs the policy backs the legislation that was still subject to strasbourg. fascinating insight from you, shoaib khan, thank you so much for joining us here on farage on forjoining us here on farage on gb news as well. i have to say, i suspect many of you may be pretty disappointed by all of that. pretty disappointed by all of that . whether the government that. whether the government wins or loses , basically it's wins or loses, basically it's a lose lose . how does that work lose lose. how does that work with the supreme court set to make the decision tomorrow morning on the rwanda policy ? morning on the rwanda policy? our reporter jack carson has been asking people in stoke on trent what they make of it all. i do. >> i think anything that goes ahead with getting people into
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safety is a good idea. i think the government is doing whatever they can to support people that are obviously in desperate need of travel and protection , of travel and protection, basically. so it's a positive move and anything we can do to help as a country, we should always try to do no other option for them. >> is the you know, they just float die and the float and to see the die and the see land here, they're see the land here, they're running and fleeing their life and things. so what choice do they have if they stamp it? yes go to rwanda. they've got no choice. i think it should really be at least they're going to go somewhere where they're going to be looked after and perhaps have a job or what are they going to do when they're here. >> so i think it should be approved. yeah, because they honestly it's been too much now. well something's gotta be done. >> simple as that, you know. but i feel sorry me hard for some of them, you know. but you know, young men coming over in this country, i think we're going to do something. but i don't think rwanda the answer to it at
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all. >> well, there are lots of thoughts from stoke on trent. this is an extraordinary time. and talking of extraordinary, i have secured some exclusive footage from calais last week. some drone footage you will not want to miss this utterly, utterly extraordinary. there's just a little tease of it after the break. don't go anywhere . the break. don't go anywhere. it's farage on
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they were in 2019. earlier today, around 9:30, of course, this new team . met this new team. met >> welcome back to farage. with me richard tice. yes, i'm standing in for nigel whilst he's in the jungle now , i he's in the jungle now, i promised you some extraordinary exclusive footage of some of the migrant camps outside calais. and as i'm talking, just look at some of this footage that i've secured from a drone with very high quality camera lenses. and you can see there these are some of the migrant camps. and i think the footage will just
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start to rotate. this, as i say, is secured by a drone. these are hundreds of tents that are in in the sort of the scrub, the woodlands is just literally outside calais. so not exactly hidden, not that hard to find there. you can see look at that right by the lorries. so if they're not going on the boats, you can see how how easy it is to get to the lorries and to try and get into the lorries to come across the channel and we'll just move on. now now i think we've got a the one of the migrants actually spotted the drone and we came quite close up into him . i think we'll see that into him. i think we'll see that into him. i think we'll see that in a minute where he is and you may be able to see there that he's actually waving at the drone. he's waving at you . and drone. he's waving at you. and as i say, this footage shows dozens and dozens and dozens of tents all around calais. dozens and dozens and dozens of tents all around calais . and you tents all around calais. and you might think, hang on, we spent hundreds of millions of pounds to the french government. the
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french authorities , to stop french authorities, to stop this, to deal with this. how can it be so easy? see that they're still camping there all over the place, right by houses ? well, if place, right by houses? well, if they're nowhere, they are . they're nowhere, they are. maybe. it's probably no surprise . i think that there is a picture of them . here they are. picture of them. here they are. they're playing football. well, you very nice you might say that's a very nice thing it's a great sport, thing to do. it's a great sport, of course. this is literally of course. but this is literally they're not even hiding . they're they're not even hiding. they're playing in plain sight. they're not even hiding. they're playing in plain sight . now, if playing in plain sight. now, if i can secure this with a couple of lads and a drone, it doesn't seem to me that you need hundreds of millions of pounds to find out who they are, where they are. you should be picking them should them up. you should be processing them. you should be stopping them from crossing the channel with all the other news. it's barely featured that on sunday. . 615 migrants crossed sunday. so. 615 migrants crossed the channel in some 12 boats. there we are over the weekend . there we are over the weekend. that's 12 boats that got across . that's 12 boats that got across. there's another seven boats over the weekend with some 200
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illegal migrants. that got into some difficulties . no surprise, some difficulties. no surprise, it's november. it's some difficulties. no surprise, it's november . it's pretty some difficulties. no surprise, it's november. it's pretty tidal out there. it's pretty cold. they got into trouble . they they got into trouble. they secured rescues from the french. well if the french can rescue those in trouble , my simple those in trouble, my simple question is why can't they rescue those who have illegally left france? well, i'm delighted to be joined now in the studio by sue read, special investigations editor at the daily mail to explore this. sue, you've on this subject for you've been on this subject for a very long time. you've been on this subject for a very long time . i guess that a very long time. i guess that footage , it might be interesting footage, it might be interesting and to new our viewers and listeners, you've sort of seen it all before, but does it surprise you how much is still there ? there? >> i'm afraid doesn't. i'm >> i'm afraid it doesn't. i'm not taking away your scoop , but not taking away your scoop, but i'm not surprised because it literally has grown from 20 years ago when there were 400 people. and now we've got 4000. there but it's not the 4000 just there . it's the 4000 further there. it's the 4000 further back right through france
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waiting to come up to the forward camp, ready to get the boats. then through germany and so on. and believe me, i've spoken to hundreds of individual migrants over the years and the word on their lips is london, and they think london is the uk , and they think london is the uk, you understand. so they all say london, they've heard of london, but but if that's just around calais , then you've got all calais, then you've got all across 20, 30 miles either side of calais. >> yes. you've got more tents like that. i mean if we had time, we'd send a drone all over paris. >> paris is full of weight , of >> paris is full of weight, of holding camps. >> holding camps ? >> holding camps? >> holding camps? >> yes. >> yes. >> so we're seeing more footage here of these camps . here of these camps. >> so this scene , if we had >> so this scene, if we had drones up and down 30 miles either side of calais , you would either side of calais, you would see this everywhere. that's right. isn't it? >> well, you certainly see people not in tents, but certainly getting on buses as free buses from just near here
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to the beaches and going through the undergrowth, the forests and waiting for the pickups from the boats that are now very light taxi services. >> absolutely right . and the >> absolutely right. and the sort of taxi service to the halfway point. and then and then we pick them up and take them to the rest of the journey and talk to me about the schengen issue, because obviously shingen was the within the eu was the sort of the joy, the jewel in the crown of being able to move freely, happily amongst all the nations. what's happening with schengen. >> well it's actually very , very >> well it's actually very, very interesting because and these are from the eu papers , but 11 are from the eu papers, but 11 countries within the schengen area have now closed thing checking their borders . some checking their borders. some have got static border posts from slovakia to germany to france to italy because they say that they're their their sovereignty is now important. again their people have to be
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protected . they're expecting protected. they're expecting hamas terrorists to come in among the migrants. and of course, if the hamas migrants come to europe, you can be sure they're going to be in these tents very soon. absolutely. and we have no idea who is coming in, no idea who's coming. >> but you're saying that the schengen zone essentially it's under threat. >> 11 are closing them >> 11 nations are closing them and that will continue. well as melanie says, in italy , the melanie says, in italy, the prime minister of italy, she says it's shattered. >> you know, shattering. it's breaking up . breaking up. >> it is. i think they've got no choice, frankly, as my view. they've got no choice but to shut the borders to read. thank you so much for coming in and sharing thoughts. sharing those thoughts. absolutely fascinating . just absolutely fascinating. just before to the break, what before we go to the break, what the you will not believe . the farage you will not believe. i'm actually quite glad nigel's away. steaming away. he would be steaming furious this. the national furious about this. the national trust . yes, they've got a lovely trust. yes, they've got a lovely new calendar year for next year. it's got all sorts of helpful dates on it. yes it'll tell you about transgender awareness
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week, black history month. that's very useful. thank you . that's very useful. thank you. lgbtq+ month. also very helpful. diwali eid, ramadan , all diwali eid, ramadan, all incredibly helpful . no christmas incredibly helpful. no christmas . no easter. i'm pretty sure those are pretty important dates for us here in the united kingdom. but according to the national trust, not relevant. they did say this is internal guidance specifically designed to supplement the national trust's year round programming. that includes christmas and easter, which are national pubuc easter, which are national public holidays, which is celebrated at all properties and enables our teams to mark more religious and cultural festivals to serve local communities and our everyone to learn about different cultures . we're very different cultures. we're very proud to host some wonderful celebrations for all those various other religious festivals . the national trust is festivals. the national trust is for everyone. well, i'm sure it is. maybe it could be for christmas for the christians as well. one, the new well. the other one, the new minister within the home office. yes it's laura ferris. just take
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a look at this picture. i'm pretty sure that she's on one knee. yes, she's on one knee. it's 2020 and she's gone down on one knee for of course, black lives matter. what do you think to that? i think it's best not to that? i think it's best not to answer, actually. i think it's best probably to go to the break after the break. we've got another mp on. we've got him be talking to john redwood , sir talking to john redwood, sir john redwood his thoughts. john redwood about his thoughts. absolutely. and of course, edwina currie talking about what would be going on for nigel now in the jungle. don't go anywhere. it's farage on . gb anywhere. it's farage on. gb news earlier with eamonn and isabel. >> we're not a christian country anymore. >> well, all all the institutions are christian. >> i'm not disagreeing. monarchies, christian parliaments, christian finished. >> so stop making excuses for them. >> there's also a big question about whether or not rishi sunak was talking nonsense at party
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conference when he was talking about change. this is back to the future, isn't it? i've got the future, isn't it? i've got the picture the king there. the picture of the king there. >> i we now look at >> i hope we do. now look at that. that is a racing that. now that is a racing dnven that. now that is a racing driver, gorgeous and crazy orange goggles. >> was hammond for >> oh, that was hammond for a moment >> oh, that was hammond for a mo butt >> oh, that was hammond for a mo but no, i could just wish >> but no, i could just wish i was more. >> but no, i could just wish i was was. >> but no, i could just wish i was was more elvis in his vegas >> i was more elvis in his vegas years. special day years. someone's special day today the ordinary person. king today. the ordinary person. king charles. he turns 75. happy birthday , majesty from gb news. birthday, majesty from gb news. >> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join
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us >> welcome back to farage. well, it is another seismic day in british politics. this letter from the former home secretary which we touched on earlier. i'm delighted now to get a reaction from the conservative mp for wokingham, sir john redwood, from the conservative mp for wokingham, sirjohn redwood, on his thoughts on this letter. sir john, thank you for joining
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farage on gb news this evening. a very important day this letter is well , it's a very important day this letter is well, it's the most seismic and significant point that i can recall reading . you've been in recall reading. you've been in politics a fair while. what do you think of it? these are very serious allegations , actions serious allegations, actions that the suella braverman man is making at the prime minister. what are your thoughts? do you agree with some of those those allegations ? i i agree. allegations? i i agree. >> it's a very serious letter, very powerfully written . and very powerfully written. and clearly there's been a very big falling out between the home secretary and the prime minister what i want to hear is the prime minister's response , because minister's response, because what the former home secretary is saying is that there are problems with his small boats policy , which she pointed out policy, which she pointed out and which he didn't adjust to . i and which he didn't adjust to. i want him to prove her wrong by showing us that he has taken on board all sensible criticisms of his policy, having heard from
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him personally, i know that he very strongly wants to stop the small boats . there were clearly small boats. there were clearly disagreements with his home secretary over how far you had to go to do that. and tomorrow we will find out whether they've won in court or not. and we will find out whether there needs to be more legislation. one of the big arguments that we see in these suella braverman letter is her thought that we needed even stronger legislation to do the job. well, we know part of the answer to that tomorrow. >> so, yes, i mean, she says she writes, you've manifested and repeatedly failed to deliver on every single one of these key policies. she's referring to the four points in her what seems to be a written agreement from october last year. i mean, that's a pretty damning indictment, including something that's very dear to your heart, sir john, with regard to brexit and the northern ireland protocol and the retained regulations bill, what are your thoughts on that ?
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thoughts on that? >> well, indeed , i was very >> well, indeed, i was very strongly of the view that as i and others had helped get the northern ireland protocol bill through the commons with no conservative mp, i think voting against our proposal, i would have liked to seen it complete its stages in the lords. i think its stages in the lords. i think it was much better to have a uk based solution so that northern ireland is completely part of our single market and country and we make all the decisions on their taxes and laws. so i was very surprised when the prime minister and the business secretary and others dropped that particular measure . and that particular measure. and similarly with the retained eu law bill, absolutely . law bill, absolutely. >> i mean that sirjohn, that >> i mean that sir john, that you that there was some of that wasn't properly formed, in which case, why didn't they amend it? >> because there are lot of eu >> because there are a lot of eu regulations that we still apply that could be modified . that could be modified. >> the driver's usb brexit is ipsis can i just finish? do you think this is a jeffrey? jeffrey
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how a moment will she speak in the house of commons tomorrow or in of days, do in the next couple of days, do you ? you think? >> well, i would imagine she'll she'll let us know her views further. commons that is quite normal for somebody of that importance and stature retiring . importance and stature retiring. we now know what she's going to say. so the prime minister will have plenty of chance to research his answer. but i would urge the prime minister to take the policy issues very seriously to demonstrate that he can stop the small boats. and yes, i think he should revisit the settlement with the eu because i think there are a lot of laws and taxes that still apply to us that shouldn't apply and we need those modifications. absolutely. do sir john, if we're those modifications. absolutely. do sirjohn, if we're going to get some growth. >> you so much indeed for >> thank you so much indeed for your , sir. john your thoughts, sir. john redwood, mp for redwood, conservative mp for wokingham, course, nigel wokingham, now of course, nigel is in the jungle. what's what's happening week before the happening this week before the show delighted happening this week before the shovthat delighted happening this week before the shovthat edwina delighted happening this week before the shovthat edwina currie,ielighted happening this week before the shovthat edwina currie, formerd now that edwina currie, former conservative minister, i'm a celebrity. get me out of here contestant. she knows exactly what's going on. edwina, good
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evening. what is going on the evening. what is going on at the moment? be up moment? what would nigel be up to? what will missing ? to? what will he be missing? >> evening , richard. >> good evening, richard. >> good evening, richard. >> well, i'm very impressed . >> well, i'm very impressed. >> well, i'm very impressed. >> i think we should call him furry farage from here onwards, don't you think? have you looked at that photograph? i mean, the first thing i looked at was his knees. and then i noticed his rather legs . i rather sort of hairy legs. i don't think any of us have actually this before. he's actually seen this before. he's so farage is my view. so furry. farage is my view. >> so you were looking at his knees, edwina. really? why would they all be doing together at they all be doing together at the ? aren't and probably the moment? aren't and probably comparing knees right now. >> of course , they don't always >> of course, they don't always know when they arrive who else is going to be in the jungle with them. but the joint photograph shows that they are perhaps beginning to get acquainted and indeed they will be in the jungle and starting to do some work. what day is it? um, it's tuesday. today? wednesday they'll be working and they will be getting acquainted with each other because there needs to be enough material then
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to come out and be broadcast at the weekend , which is what we're the weekend, which is what we're expecting . um, and he will be expecting. um, and he will be interviewed as to his views and what he wants to do. he's got some big surprises coming . the some big surprises coming. the first is there's no beer , first is there's no beer, there's no cigarettes, there's no mobile phone , there's no no mobile phone, there's no feedback from the public whatsoever. just imagine it. >> really. the second thing is the second thing is what? >> the second thing is that he's he's under surveillance for the whole time, but he's not in control of his image. this is going to be a really strange experience for him. no, i think i think he might be quite used to that are in charge. the edit crew are in charge. the edit he thinks he's going to be doing. actually, the editors are in charge and they are the ones who are going to be deciding the narrative that we're going narrative that we're all going to hear. it's going to be very interesting. >> i'm not sure he's going to enjoy that. what i do know is he's miss coffee.
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he's going to miss coffee. believe not just believe it or not. it's not just the really the claret. he was really concerned out on concerned about missing out on coffee. thank you so much, edwina curry, for your thoughts. we'll get you back during the course the show with your course of the show with your latest thoughts on that . the latest thoughts on that. the taste the locusts and the taste of the locusts and the bugs heaven what. bugs and heaven knows what. that's edwina curry. thank you so indeed. we're almost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. indeed. we're almost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. but eed. we're almost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. but siri. we're almost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. but sirjacob,3 almost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. but sir jacob, wow ost at that's edwina curry. thank you so end. but sirjacob, wow ,st at the end. but sir jacob, wow, what a letter from what? former home secretary. i guess you knew it was coming. was it worse or sort of what you expected? oh i mean, it breaks all the rule books of resignation letters. >> they're normally. it's been a privilege to serve in your cabinet. i'll support you from the back benches. this was you agreed the following things. you broke the agreement . you have no broke the agreement. you have no mandate. there's been nothing like it since geoffrey howe's resignation statement after he left margaret thatcher's government . government. >> and i asked sirjohn redwood there whether this was a sir geoffrey howe amendment. do you think she'll make a statement in the possibly tomorrow? the commons possibly tomorrow? >> customary so >> it would be customary to. so i wouldn't be surprised if she
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made tomorrow after made a statement tomorrow after prime where prime minister's questions where by convention can the prime minister should stay? because remember, thatcher was remember, margaret thatcher was there to geoffrey . there to listen to geoffrey. >> how does the prime minister then respond that? then respond to that? >> no, it's uninterrupted >> no, no, it's uninterrupted and the text has to be shown to the speaker beforehand. it can't go for too long, but the go on for too long, but the floor is entirely that of the person who has government. person who has left government. >> extraordinary . >> absolutely extraordinary. just just remarkable. and and will it sink? sunak or will he survive? well who else is there ? survive? well who else is there? >> and do we really want to change, prime minister, this close to a general election? so those are the things that support at the moment. your support him at the moment. your show, what's coming up? well, i'm going to be talking about this extraordinary excoriating letter the major letter that must be the major topic conversation. but we'll topic of conversation. but we'll move on to other things. move on to some other things. we're talk about what we're going to talk about what is like when you're appointed to government. nigel government. imagine nigel doesn't know what's going on. >> he's drinking >> thank you. he's not drinking any we're going to the any coffee. we're going to the weather. it's jacob. >> hello. good evening . alex >> hello. good evening. alex burkill here with your latest gb news update ahead of
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news weather update ahead of some and weather on some wet and windy weather on thursday. a bit of a thursday. we have a bit of a north south as we go into north south split as we go into wednesday. that's because we have lying across have a front lying across northern parts which going to northern parts which is going to bnng northern parts which is going to bring cloud and bring the focus of the cloud and the showery rain here. meanwhile, a quieter meanwhile, it's a quieter picture further south. so as we go through this evening, some clear across southern clear skies across southern areas. scattering of areas. yes, a scattering of showers, but mainly dry as different story further north, lots of cloud and outbreaks of rain. some of these could be heavy at times. two, the temperatures won't drop. huge temperatures won't drop. a huge amount us, but with amount for most of us, but with some skies across far some clear skies across the far north of scotland here, touch north of scotland here, a touch of quite likely as we of frost is quite likely as we go through wednesday. then we continue with this north south split, staying cloudy with further outbreaks of rain across many northern areas. but for more central southern england, wales and northern ireland, it's looking largely dry. a few showers pushing their way in across parts of wales and towards the bristol channel, but otherwise plenty sunshine and otherwise plenty of sunshine and even sunny skies for northern scotland for scotland to temperatures for many though down a degree or so compared to today with highs of around 12 or 13 celsius as we go
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through thursday. then a swathe of wet and windy weather is going its way from going to push its way up from the south—west, drier the south—west, staying drier further north. but the south, further north. but in the south, we could see some heavy rain with 30 to 50mm perhaps, and gales possibly even stronger than that in exposed coasts. friday looks like it will be a quieter day before the wet and windy weather returns in time for the weekend. bye bye
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>> hello . good evening. it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. suella braverman does not mince her words. she has castigated rishi sunak for failing to deliver, accusing him of betrayal, having no real intention of fulfilling a pledge to the british people and of being weak. but in light of the cabinet reshuffle, it seems as if government is moving if the government is moving away from coalition of voters who from the coalition of voters who gave boris johnson a mandate. it was less a night of the long
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knives from the prime minister and more perhaps mid—morning letter the letter openers. having done the downing walk when was downing street walk when i was appointed business secretary i'll thoughts i'll be giving you my thoughts into what it's like on the inside during reshuffle. she has one ostriches of bank inside during reshuffle. she has on england's;triches of bank inside during reshuffle. she has on england's monetary bank inside during reshuffle. she has on england's monetary policyank of england's monetary policy committee her head from committee removed her head from the sand , while one of its the sand, while one of its members has shocked the nation by making an accurate statement that zero stoking that net zero is stoking inflation uk . will the inflation in the uk. will the other ostriches follow suit and flap their wings and as the incumbent prime minister is busy hiring a quondam prime minister, another erstwhile prime minister is busy focusing on what we all ought be concentrating on ought to be concentrating on growing liz truss growing the economy. liz truss growth commission launched its growth budget today, which could boost 23, putting boost the economy by 23, putting an extra £26,000 into each of britain's households, plus , as britain's households, plus, as the king turns 75, the duke of sussex has reportedly called his father to wish him happy birthday following other reports, the duke regrets leaving the royal family. but could this be the first step for the duke's dramatic return to royal life? state of the nation

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