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visiting ukraine to meet office, visiting ukraine to meet president zelenskyy, where he pledged the uk's continued military support. former prime minister boris johnson has welcomed the visit and the historic announcement from the nhs that millions of women will get the contraceptive pill for free from high street pharmacies without having to see a doctor. >> is this the key to freeing up gp . appointments and an enormous gp. appointments and an enormous fin whale was found dead in cornwall, where we live , on the cornwall, where we live, on the beach where it was found. >> speaking to the stunned locals whose morning routine was rudely interrupted. all that to come after your headlines with sophia . sophia. >> good afternoon . it's 12:01. >> good afternoon. it's 12:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. lord david cameron has
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visited ukraine for the first time as foreign secretary he video of the surprise visit to kyiv was posted on social media with president vladimir zelenskyy, saying he's grateful for the uk's support given the world isn't focussed on the war in his country. the talks addressed the need for weapons on the front line, strengthening air defence and protecting ukraine's infrastructure and people . people. >> i bought the strength and determination of the ukrainian people and what i want to say by being here is that we will continue to give you the moral support , the diplomatic support, support, the diplomatic support, the economic support , but above the economic support, but above all, the military support that you need, not just this year and next year, but for however long it takes. >> the prime minister insists flights to rwanda will go ahead in the spring as planned. rishi sunakis in the spring as planned. rishi sunak is looking to introduce emergency legislation after the supreme court ruled the government's asylum policy is unlawful . the prime minister unlawful. the prime minister says he's working on a new international treaty to ensure the east african nation is deemed safe. human rights lawyer
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david haye said the government's policy is a gimmick. >> if people listen to what the supreme court said , they supreme court said, they effectively said that it is possible for the rwanda policy to be to be lawful and for the verandah to be a safe country. but our government didn't do their homework and didn't do their homework and didn't do their preparation. and what rishi effectively rishi is effectively saying, amongst things, is we will amongst other things, is we will now away do that and that amongst other things, is we will no me away do that and that amongst other things, is we will no me isiway do that and that amongst other things, is we will no me is one do that and that amongst other things, is we will no me is one of do that and that amongst other things, is we will no me is one of the) that and that amongst other things, is we will no me is one of the issuesand that amongst other things, is we will no me is one of the issues that hat to me is one of the issues that we need to be addressing. >> the shadow defence secretary says isn't a party of says labour isn't a party of protest and firmness and protest and both firmness and discipline are needed .john discipline are needed. john healey's comments come in the wake of a major rebellion over the party's position on the war in gaza. the 56 of sir keir starmer's mps rejected their leader's stance and voted for an immediate ceasefire between israel and hamas. jess phillips , israel and hamas. jess phillips, afzal khan and yasmin kushari are among eight shadow ministers who left their jobs to back an snp motion. >> i totally understand why our backbenchers want to respond to calls from their constituencies
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about a ceasefire , but in the about a ceasefire, but in the end we're not a protest party. we're doing and saying what we would do in government. that means we're backing israel's right to defend itself after the huge hamas terror attack. but saying, of course this is not a blank check as i hate losing people from the front bench. i know all of them, including jess phillips, wrestled with that very difficult decision. all of them have said they want to see keir starmer in downing street and will work with us to secure and will work with us to secure a labour government that police could be handed new powers to protect war memorials after pro—palestinian protesters were accused of desecrating monument. >> a group of people climbed on the royal artillery memorial in london following a march outside parliament last night. home secretary james cleverly told broadcasters the behaviour was abusing and deeply offensive and he will examine whether the law should be changed. the met police says while it's unacceptable, no laws were broken , israel has warned broken, israel has warned a strong force may need to stay in
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gaza despite us president saying occupation of the strip would be a big mistake. it's after israeli forces raided the al—shifa hospital and said weapons and infrastructure belonging to hamas were found. the terror group denies the claim. joe biden says he's made it clear to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu that a two state solution is needed to resolve the conflict . the to resolve the conflict. the train drivers will stage a fresh round of strikes to ratchet up the pressure in their long running dispute over pay . aslef running dispute over pay. aslef union members will walk out between the second and 9th of december, with different train companies affected on each day. drivers will also refuse to work overtime . little progress has overtime. little progress has been made in the row , with union been made in the row, with union bosses a pay offer bosses rejecting a pay offer back in spring. millions of women in england will soon be able to access free contraception on the high street without having to see a gp from next month. women in england can get the pill by visiting their local pharmacy. it's part of an
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nhs plan to free up appointments, easing pressure on doctors surgeries . pharmacies doctors surgeries. pharmacies will need to sign up for the service . the carcase of the fin service. the carcase of the fin whale , which was found washed up whale, which was found washed up on a beach in cornwall, is being removed and destroyed as investigation into its death continue. it was discovered on newquay's fistral beach yesterday . the public is newquay's fistral beach yesterday. the public is being urged to avoid the area. abby crosbie from cornwall wildlife trust told us that a lot can be learnt from the incident. >> eight animals stranded around our coastline all year for a variety of reasons . so whenever variety of reasons. so whenever one does strand, although it's very sad, it's a real opportunity for us to go and examine the carcase and understand what is happening. these animals are windows to the health of our seas. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to tom and . pip
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now it's back to tom and. pip thanks sophia. >> now the israel—gaza conflict is causing an ever growing rift within the labour party as mps voted on the king's speech. >> ten members of sir keir starmer's shadow frontbench team ignored their leader's wishes and backed the snp's ceasefire amendment . and backed the snp's ceasefire amendment. in total, 56 of his mps refused to join his fight for humanitarian pauses, preferring a permanent halt instead. >> now, amongst the rebels were major names such as jess phillips, rosena, allin—khan , phillips, rosena, allin—khan, sarah champion, stella creasy and barry gardiner. but what does this mean for labour party unity going forward .7 joining us unity going forward? joining us now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley and olivia, this was to some extent a larger rebellion than was expected last night . expected last night. >> well, absolutely . it was >> well, absolutely. it was a huge rebellion. it's about a third of the labour parliamentary party voted against keir starmer's whip. now, in ordinary times that
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would be a huge story. now, in ordinary times that would be a huge story . you've would be a huge story. you've got eight frontbench resignations . that's the resignations. that's the biggest, highest number of frontbench resignations in a day since those 16 ministers walked out on boris johnson in the last days of his premiership . at the days of his premiership. at the moment, obviously the conservative party seems to be eating itself up. it's at each other's throats constantly and is now battling with its rwanda policy . so most of the spotlight policy. so most of the spotlight is on the tories, but that doesn't negate what this does mean for labour. no one i've spoken to thinks that it's a sort of existential crisis for keir starmer. he's not about to lose his job, but the fact that he can't hold that labour party unity, which he's fought so hard to for, gether on a matter such as this, doesn't bode too well for a future labour government, particularly if and of course, this very much still could happen. labour only wins a narrow majority or even a hung parliament come the next election. that unity which keir starmer has fought so , so hard
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starmer has fought so, so hard to win after the tense days of jeremy corbyn seems to be really quite surface deep , deep. quite surface deep, deep. >> jess phillips olivia. i see she is now taken to x after resigning. she's spoken of her belief in wanting to take practical action now concerning the war in gaza, but she does say that she will continue to fight for the labour government at that. the country desperately needs at the next general election , which may be election, which may be emphasises that this was very much a specific issue that they were voting on last night. it >> well, absolutely. and all of those shadow ministers who've resigned , all eight of them have resigned, all eight of them have said that they will continue to support keir starmer from the backbenches. and interestingly, john healey, the shadow defence secretary, said on the morning round this morning that it's a long way down the road. but he implied that there is a possibility that at least some of those shadow ministers who've
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been end up being been sacked could end up being on the front bench again in the event of a future labour government . so yes, this feels government. so yes, this feels like a in the grand scheme of things, this could be a relatively minor rift. but just the fact that keir starmer is unable to hold his party together on a big vote like this on, you know, if the labour party were in government, then this would be hugely important for their leadership. it doesn't bode too well for starmer , bode too well for starmer, although as you say, this particular issue too is probably limited to the time between now and the next election when it's really indicative of perhaps an era of very loose parliament discipline in both parties . discipline in both parties. >> one of the reasons why boris johnson sort of fell as prime minister is he wasn't able to have that commanding respect across his party. he wasn't able to pass key elements of his legislative programme, particularly , for example, particularly, for example, planning reform . and i wonder if planning reform. and i wonder if the labour party can't have discipline on an issue such as
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this when it comes to contentious votes. were it to win power, contentious votes , win power, contentious votes, for example, its plans on on building more houses which lots of local communities might oppose. does this present an indicative problem for him in the future? perhaps yeah , i the future? perhaps yeah, i think that is a really big problem for both major parties in a way, it probably denotes quite a good thing in that the wider public is more aware of what's going on in parliament. >> we've got, you know, social media informing people all the time. you've got the website telling you how your mps have voted, which means that mps are much more alive to the fact that there constituents could have issues with them voting on matters which they don't agree with. so you'll notice that most of the shadow ministers who resigned or were sacked yesterday represent constituencies with heavily muslim populations , which on the muslim populations, which on the whole tend to sway to the pro—palestine cause . in her
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pro—palestine cause. in her resignation letter, jess phillips even said that she feels that she has to vote with her constituents . so, yes, her constituents. so, yes, i think this is an emerging problem for both major parties with constituents having much more of a hawk eye on what's going on in parliament than they have previously, thanks to social media. thanks to more news channels out there, more news channels out there, more news channels out there, more news channels like gb news out there, which is obviously very good for democracy, but probably not very good for party discipline. mps know that they can't get away with just disagreeing with their constituents in parliament. >> and briefly , olivia, i see >> and briefly, olivia, i see commons leader penny mordaunt, she has been in in the house of commons and she has been talking about how mps are under increased threat after this ceasefire vote . well absolutely. ceasefire vote. well absolutely. >> i mean we saw the scenes. i was in westminster last night and saw the pro—palestine march, which, you know , began to get
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which, you know, began to get quite heated . there were people quite heated. there were people driving through it, walking through it who said that they that they really didn't feel comfortable at all. we've had weeks and tensions weeks and weeks of tensions rising issue. every rising over this issue. every saturday day in london. and the very fact that this ceasefire amendment was tabled by the snp has spotlight really on has put the spotlight really on mps . and yes, i think there is mps. and yes, i think there is an issue with with mps safety, potentially interest . hinckley potentially interest. hinckley there was a little anecdote in the playbook, an email this morning saying that one former labour minister said that he had received over 11,000 emails about palestine and israel and only three of them were predominantly on the side of israel. so there is sort of real anger about this issue in the country. and as these marches, more and more of them take place, those tensions are just heating up and it becomes quite a febrile atmosphere for both mps and ordinary members of the public. >> absolutely . political >> absolutely. political correspondent olivia utley, thank you. >> well, one of the instigators of sir keir starmer's ceasefire
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conundrum was labour losing control of one of its key councils, oxford city council . councils, oxford city council. over 50 councillors have now resigned from the labour party with ten in oxford alone , with ten in oxford alone, including the council leader , including the council leader, dr. ahmad lateef, who can join us now. dr. ahmad lateef, thank you so much for making the time for us. why did you feel the need to resign from the labour party ? party? >> hi, good afternoon. thanks for having me on. just to make a small correction, i wasn't the council leader, i was a sitting labour councillor and i resigned after keir starmer's disastrous lbc interview where he was asked quite specifically whether he supported a siege on gaza, to which he replied yes. and at that stage i saw urgent clarification from the local and national leadership. but unfortunately none was forthcoming . he unfortunately none was forthcoming. he did unfortunately none was forthcoming . he did eventually forthcoming. he did eventually come out to say he was answering a different question, but it took him nine days to say that and at the same time, his
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national all his frontbench were on national tv justifying his initial comments. so i couldn't initial comments. so i couldn't in good conscience remain in a party where the national leadership had such disregard for human life and international law and hence i resigned . law and hence i resigned. >> so the way you're talking, you do not sound at all very supportive of sir keir starmer going forward , what do you want going forward, what do you want him to become? the next prime minister where where's your support now ? support now? >> well, i think he he i think he does have a lot of questions to answer. and it's true. he's lost a lot of support, not only from myself, but as you say, ten colleagues across oxford city council, the vast majority of whom are not often muslim background and indeed there's, as you were saying earlier, over 50 councillors in the country. there's a further five resignations this morning that have come in from the west midlands. the other thing to remember is there was a survey out about a week or two ago that asked all labour councillors
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whether were in agreement whether they were in agreement with keir starmer's stance on this only a third of labour this and only a third of labour sitting labour councillors. so not that are resigned but not those that are resigned but those who still within the not those that are resigned but those said still within the not those that are resigned but those said they ;till within the not those that are resigned but those said they were rithin the not those that are resigned but those said they were satisfied party said they were satisfied with his stance. so that's over party said they were satisfied withthirds:ance. so that's over party said they were satisfied withthirds of ce. so that's over party said they were satisfied withthirds of labour hat's over party said they were satisfied withthirds of labour councillors two thirds of labour councillors who are dissatisfied . national who are dissatisfied. national polling regularly suggests that over 75% of the british public would like to call for a ceasefire . so i think he is out ceasefire. so i think he is out of touch with not only the labour grassroots and the labour membership but also the wider british public. >> a long standing criticism of sir keir starmer has been, he'll say, one thing to one group of people and another thing to another group of people. he of course, promised to nationalise a lot of industry, lot a lot of industry, raise a lot of taxes, tuition fees. of taxes, abolish tuition fees. when he stood to be labour leader. all of those policies have now fallen by the wayside. i wonder do you think was i wonder what do you think was going through sir keir starmer's mind when as you were reaching out for clarification on that point on that interview where he said that israel has the right
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to cut off electricity, cut off water, tries to claim water, he now tries to claim that he never said that. but what do you think has been behind his shifting position? and some extent, arguably his and to some extent, arguably his duplici city on this issue ? duplici city on this issue? >> yeah, i mean, we all heard the answer. and as you say, it was it was recorded and if it was it was recorded and if it was a simple misspeak, it doesn't take nine days to come out and say that. the other factor on this issue is that he is openly told his the parliamentary labour party that he will only call for a ceasefire once the us does . and ceasefire once the us does. and so actually people don't see his position as one of a principled position as one of a principled position which they might be able to support. but it's inevitable that there will need to be a call for a ceasefire not only from keir starmer, but the uk government and the us government and what people are saying is that enough killing has happened and so that's why people i think, don't feel that keir starmer is representing their views and with keir
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starmer calling for a humanitarian pause. we've had 11,000 palestinian die over 5000 of whom are children . and the of whom are children. and the question that needs to be put to keir starmer is if now is not the time to call for a ceasefire, how many innocent palestinian children need to die before you then are ready to call an immediate ceasefire to? >> okay, well, thank you so much for your time this afternoon. really appreciate that. council leader dr. amar lateef, i think we said he wasn't the council leader. >> he was the council leader. >> he was the council leader. >> he was no longer. >> he was no longer. >> no, he never was the council leader. yeah he did apologise. we've had some error information there. but but no, we've cleared that up. let's move on now, because during the king's speech that up. let's move on now, becalpro—palestinian ng's speech that up. let's move on now, becalpro—palestinian protesters h vote, pro—palestinian protesters were once again holding a rally outside westminster. we mentioned it a moment ago. we're joined by our home and security editor mark white. and, mark, this was a was a rally that got quite heated up.
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>> yes, it was . and there was >> yes, it was. and there was some real concern about protesters climbing on top of a war monument as well, which led to many people saying, you know , to many people saying, you know, why on earth were the police not pulling these protesters down? the police have argued that they didn't have the laws in place to be able to do that. you can see this is video of them on that particular monument. i have to say, though, you know, i've i've worn out many a pair of boots over the years following protest marches and covering direct action. and i've seen the police pull people down or at least arrest people when they come down from lampposts and bus shelters and statue booths and buildings on bridges. all of the above. so you know, whether it actually goes through to court and is the basis for a
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successful prosecution , i'm not successful prosecution, i'm not sure. but they can certainly t disrupt someone's day, arrest them, hold them, take them away from whatever direct action they're involved in. however, having said that, the met commissioner, sir mark rowley, has been defending the action of his officers , or some would say his officers, or some would say the lack of action of his officers last night. this is what he told a conference in london a short time ago . london a short time ago. >> the explicit things about last night, it is it is not illegal to climb on to a statue. >> i think that might be something that government may may consider. but that's for them to decide, not for me. the officer recognised that whilst it wasn't illegal, it was sort of it was unfortunate, inflammatory in certain ways . inflammatory in certain ways. the officers at the scene asked them to get down and they did not. >> illegal . that will have >> illegal. that will have shocked a lot of people when they see those images. well
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let's just say it might well be the case, but that doesn't explain. >> then why over many years of watching protests, i've seen people who've been up on, you know, bus shelters up high on lampposts , on statues, on the lampposts, on statues, on the sides of buildings or bridges that have been brought down and arrested . so they're clearly arrested. so they're clearly arrested. >> the audio on that clip or not on what was what was just played, do we know what the exchange was between police and that protester? well as sir mark rowley said, they asked him to come down, but they didn't arrest them, which is curious because, mark, as you say, there are lots of instances. >> well, yes, climbing on a statue isn't an explicit offence in and of itself. breaching the police, breaching the peace is and criminal damage is. and in april 2016, for example, when greenpeace scaled a number of monuments across the capital, the metropolitan police arrested those individuals, quote , on those individuals, quote, on suspicion of criminal damage , suspicion of criminal damage, but not specifically for climbing on a monument. but
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there are other ways to perform these arrests, arguably these arrests, which arguably these arrests, which arguably the metropolitan police are avoiding in this instance. >> well, that is what they stand accused of for you heard there from the met commissioner that it's not against the law, but it hasn't stopped them . whenever hasn't stopped them. whenever they feel whenever they're determined to arrest people at protests who are taking part in direct action, who are scaling whatever they might be, scaling if they want to arrest them, they arrest them. yes it might not stand up in the face of a prosecute action further down the line. but as i say, it kind of it's direct intervention. it takes them out of the frame in terms of what they're doing. and i think just people see the way that the police have been very robust in the way that they have policed counter—protesters at the likes of the black lives matter protests. when you had counter—protest, too, that people saw the way that the police were very robust in the way that they dealt with those
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the protests that also took place against lockdown, people accused the police of being very robust there in the wake of the sarah everard's murder by a serving metropolitan police officer, the way in which the police handled that was seen as overly aggressive and robust so they can do it when the mood takes them to move in to and intervene. but clearly, when it comes to the likes of these particular protests , they're, particular protests, they're, you know, they've decided for whatever reason, not to go in and be quite as robust. >> but one theory that's been suggested is that there aren't enough police. they'd need far much more manpower to be able to arrest these people. and also, there's not enough police cells to put them in. well i don't think that's true. >> it might be true on saturday when you had hundreds of thousands of people . and the thousands of people. and the best policy . then, of course ,
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best policy. then, of course, rather than actually intervening in potentially risking a full scale riot is to gather evidence and arrest people at a later date. last night there was a couple of hundred protesters that were involved in this kind of direct action, so they could well have intervened on that front. they decided not to, for whatever reason in. >> well, mark white, thank you so much for taking us through those crucial issues after the break, we're going to be on downing street as james cleverly doubles down on the government's rwanda plan. despite it being ruled unlawful by the supreme court. yesterday .
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news live. now, we were just talking to our home and security editor mark white about the police's powers or lack of them to stop protesters climbing onto war memorials . now downing street memorials. now downing street has commented on this. let's go straight to our gb news political editor, christopher hope. political editor, christopher hope . what have they been hope. what have they been saying, chris? yes, well , this saying, chris? yes, well, this is the morning lobby meeting that takes place a few yards away from me here in downing street. >> it's the prime minister's official spokesman. he's never named because he's a civil servant, but he's speaking with the authority of rishi sunak. and here's what he had to say.
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he said it's an affront to our armed forces. it goes against our british values. it's not acceptable . and he'd been asked acceptable. and he'd been asked there about the images of pro—palestine protesters climbing on the royal artillery memorial. again, again , that's memorial. again, again, that's an affront to our armed forces. it goes against our british values, not acceptable . we'll values, not acceptable. we'll look at what further measures are needed so that the police can confidence in taking can have confidence in taking action on this. we do believe that extensive powers that there are extensive powers available to them, the available to them, but the pubuc available to them, but the public will been shocked public will have been shocked and i'm sure appalled by what they saw. there are, of course, laws protecting memorials . laws here protecting memorials. a few years ago, there was a big row there were some images row when there were some images appeared of some appeared on social media of some people urinating on a war memorial . and i think that did memorial. and i think that did prompt concern then. but prompt some concern then. but climbing on a war memorial, of course, is also serious. i think these these monuments are really important to this country. i think we're seeing a more punchy approach here from the from the prime minister, rishi sunak , prime minister, rishi sunak, about this. he can see how these images do offend people . and
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images do offend people. and while you can protest, it's right that we have the right to protest in this country that must have its limits. you can't clamber on sacred monuments clamber on on sacred monuments like war memorials. that's obviously totally wrong and particularly given that particularly poignant given that only in in recent years, the metropolitan police has been all too happy to arrest people who have climbed monuments, have climbed on monuments, citing crimes not about the monuments, but about suspected criminal damage and the like. >> but chris, we also want to talk to you about, of course, the enormous news out of yesterday, which the yesterday, which is the scuppering or at least temporary scuppering or at least temporary scuppering government's scuppering of the government's rwanda plan. cleverly the rwanda plan. james cleverly the new home secretary, has doubled down on it this morning. what's the very latest ? the very latest? >> yeah, he's been speaking to at a police conference. he made at a police conference. he made a slightly amusing mistake . he a slightly amusing mistake. he almost said he was foreign secretary again , then remembered secretary again, then remembered he was actually the home secretary comes you secretary politics comes at you pretty fast nowadays, tom, as you well know. yeah. i mean, he was he was making very clear that. yes we can get these these
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small boats well near to being at least the first removals from the uk to rwanda at some point soon. soon. the prime minister told us in that press conference last night, didn't he, that he hoped late as may the 1st hoped as late as may the 1st flights will take off. i've been talking earlier to geoffrey cox, sir cox, the former sir geoffrey cox, the former chief law officer for the government , a senior barrister government, a senior barrister in his own right, and the tory mp. and he was saying he thinks that idea can work, he that this idea can work, but he says there's way that the says there's no way that the government can can fight or not worth fighting again against the ruling. the unanimous ruling. yes, the unanimous ruling. yes, the unanimous ruling supreme court. but ruling in the supreme court. but he that the rules , the law he says that the rules, the law can be changed with a new treaty to update a memorandum of understanding to ensure that people who here from people who are sent here from sent the uk can't sent there from the uk can't be sent there from the uk can't be sent back to the countries they are from. that's vital are fleeing from. that's vital part human rights and refugee part of human rights and refugee conventions that we've signed up for decades now . he thinks it's for decades now. he thinks it's possible. wonder, though , possible. he did wonder, though, in which is in that interview, which is airing through day on gb airing through the day on gb news, on earth couldn't news, why on earth this couldn't have seen by the home
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have been seen by the home office a year or so ago? why it took long this plan b took so long to get this plan b ready point made. in fact , by ready point made. in fact, by suella braverman. of course, and bofis suella braverman. of course, and boris the former prime boris johnson, the former prime minister. so you know enough words. i think it's clear, isn't it, that we have got strong language now from the prime minister. obviously, with an election a year away, he's got to start being on the front foot. but really the time for talking has got to end and it's really important that this government with this and government gets on with this and does actually get start at least to get the rules place to get the rules in place to stop these boats once and stop stop these boats once and for all. >> something, that >> something, chris, that viewers will viewers and listeners will will want is how much want to know is how much taxpayers money will be spent on this new treaty , because this this new treaty, because this plan has already cost 100 million squillion quid, hasn't it ? it? >> 140 million. so far spent on >>140 million. so far spent on preparing the rwandan for facilities to receive people sent there from the uk ? yes, sent there from the uk? yes, indeed. that is that is sunk money that has gone now there
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won't we can't get that back. the terms of cost of the new agreement is probably mainly legal drafting costs, which are what the government does. so no extra costs are borne on taxpayers. but the hope is and the pm has got to get this done by the spring. i wasn't called for a question in his press conference yesterday, but my question was going to be simply, will you bet me a pint on behalf of gb news viewers that single of gb news viewers that a single migrant taken back to migrant will be taken back to rwanda before the next election? no answer that question. of no answer to that question. of course i couldn't answer but course i couldn't answer it, but i that's question i think that's the question we're viewers be we're all our viewers should be asking today. enough talking from minister let's from the prime minister let's see action. well we'll look see some action. well we'll look forward asking or betting forward to you asking or betting with prime minister for with the prime minister for a pint you see him, chris. >> but no, it's an absolutely fascinating situation. and thanks for updating us there live from street. yeah live from downing street. yeah the prime minister's official spokesman saying the government believes the new rwanda legislation will prevent systemic challenges to the policy when all a huge fin whale
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was found dead in cornwall. and we'll be live on the beach where it was found after this . it was found after this. >> good afternoon. it's 12:33. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . i'm lord david cameron newsroom. i'm lord david cameron has visited ukraine for the first time as foreign secretary he video of the surprise visit to kyiv was posted on social media with president vladimir zelenskyy saying he's grateful for the uk's support. thought given the world isn't focussed on the war in his country, the talks addressed the need for weapons on the front line, strengthening air and strengthening air defence and protecting ukraine's infrastructure . the infrastructure and people. the prime minister insists flights to rwanda will go will go ahead . to rwanda will go will go ahead. shadow defence secretary john healey says labour isn't a party of protest , but healey says labour isn't a party of protest, but his comments come in the wake of a major rebellion on the war in gaza . 56 rebellion on the war in gaza. 56
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of sir keir starmer's mps rejected their leader's position, which called for a pause in fighting between israel and hamas . ten shadow ministers and hamas. ten shadow ministers and hamas. ten shadow ministers and parliamentary aides quit or were sacked so they could vote for snp motion demanding an immediate ceasefire . the carcase immediate ceasefire. the carcase of a fin whale which was found washed up on a beach in cornwall, is being removed and destroyed as investigators ltns into death continue . it was into its death continue. it was discovered on newquay's fistral beach yesterday . cornwall beach yesterday. cornwall wildlife trust says examining the remains offers a window of opportunity to better understand the health of the ocean. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .
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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back. now big audio visual news today as the latest season of the crown has debuted on netflix. the controversy itial drama, of course, did depicts the death of princess diana. well, gb news royal correspondent cameron walker joins us now. and cameron, this is a very controversial television program. >> it's controversial. it's sensitive. i think this series is going to be particularly hard for members of the royal family ihave for members of the royal family i have seen the car crash part of the episode . and to be
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of the episode. and to be honest, i think they have done as sensitive a job as they possibly could. when you are portraying a dramatising, the death of somebody in a car crash. so this is a little bit of a spoiler alert you of a spoiler alert if you haven't it. but the car haven't seen it. but the car interior shots of diana and dodi fired her partner holding hands. they then cut to a wide exterior shot of a dog walker , seeing the shot of a dog walker, seeing the car speed past him, the car goes into the tunnel and you hear the audio of the crash, but you do not see the crash. you also never see the princess of wales dead. so it is there's no gore. it's not sensationalise it. but of course it does portray the death of diana, princess of wales. >> and i suppose one of the big criticisms of this program isn't so much the moment of the car crash, but it's what comes afterwards because they make the extra ordinary editorial decision to bring her back as a ghost. >> yes . so there are, we believe >> yes. so there are, we believe i haven't watched the whole thing, but i have seen parts of
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it where she comes back as a ghost to talk to the late queen, as in queen elizabeth ii and prince charles as well. now, peter morgan, the writer of the crown, has actually actually spoke a few weeks ago about this . and he was saying that his vision was it was it was the inner thoughts of queen elizabeth ii and prince charles of imagine what diana would have perhaps said to them at the time . but of course, lots of people are viewing the surface are viewing it on the surface and saying it's diana and saying that it's diana coming as a ghost, which coming back as a ghost, which and sort haunting the queen and sort of haunting the queen or the or haunting the king >> yeah. >> yeah. >> telegraph morning has >> telegraph this morning has given two stars. and i'll given it two stars. and i'll just you a quote from there. >> this is a clip from netflix, the trailer. >> i understand the >> i understand this is the trailer. they said the crown completes demolition on trailer. they said the crown conlate es demolition on trailer. they said the crown conlate queen'smolition on trailer. they said the crown conlate queen's character, on the late queen's character, a six series arc which has taken us from claire foy's bright young woman who, of course, played the young queen in the first seasons of the crown first two seasons of the crown to staunton's sour old to imelda staunton's sour old boots. that is what the telegraph have have given it this morning. telegraph have have given it this morning . what we have to
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this morning. what we have to remember is that the crown is an amazing drama, but it is very much fiction based on historical events. we do not know what was said behind closed doors, and i think there's a danger, particularly with the international audience actually, that they're going to take what they see in this drama as fact and then base their view on the real life royal family off of this drama. so that's the danger here. is a good like here. but it is a good like entertainment. and what, entertainment. and that's what, of it's all about. of course, it's all about. >> i mean, can see four >> yeah. i mean, i can see four pages are devoted to this in the times where they've gone times today where they've gone through whole series, the through the whole series, the whole current series, telling people what is false and what is true. and i think it was dame judi dench when the last series came out a year ago, she said the crown was just full of crude sensationalism . um, yeah. sensationalism. um, yeah. >> and john major and tony blair as well. of course, both of those two depicted in the crown , those two depicted in the crown, particularly i remember last season there was a there was a scene where the then prince charles was collaborator with the prime minister, john major,
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to try and become king early. and of course, that's been heavily denied . and we do not heavily denied. and we do not know what's said behind closed. >> one of the other, chris isms of this current series is that imelda staunton, who plays who plays the queen, she doesn't really get a look in because it's all about princess diana. >> this particular part of it is all about , i >> this particular part of it is all about, i think, princess diana. but of course, in the final episode of this part, it's about the aftermath of princess diana's death and the queen's approach to that. and we know, don't we, from the news coverage in 1997 that the royal family, particularly queen elizabeth ii, was heavily criticised for choosing at balmoral , choosing to stay at balmoral, looking after her grandchildren , looking after her grandchildren, princes william and harry, who had just lost their mother and keeping them out of the limelight rather than coming down to to london share in the public's grief as it were. and then tony blair swages her. we understand it. >> i remember being shocked by the accuracy of the the political accuracy of the previous season, which was, of course, set in 1980s, where course, set in the 1980s, where they depicted margaret thatcher
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being sort almost doddery being sort of almost doddery over her decision to go to war in the falklands because her son went and they got the went missing and they got the order completely with order completely wrong with regard was also regard to that. there was also the man who turned up in the in the man who turned up in the in the bedroom of the late queen and depicting him sort of trying to speak to his local mp and being rebuffed by this stage , being rebuffed by this stage, stuffy tory. well, it turns out where the actually lived, where the man actually lived, his mp would have his mp, his local mp would have been corbyn the time . been jeremy corbyn at the time. um, i there were so many um, i mean there were so many just ridiculous inaccuracies . just ridiculous inaccuracies. liz when it comes to that, do you think it is a of concern that there isn't something popping up that there isn't something popping up at the start of this program saying this is a fictionalised version of events? yes. >> well, they always claim that it's a drama. they never claim to be a documentary. but you're right, there isn't a disclaimer saying fiction saying that it's fiction based on not for me to say on fact. it's not for me to say whether or not netflix should or shouldn't do that. i think most sensible would that sensible people would agree that it meant to be entertainment it is meant to be entertainment first foremost, on first and foremost, based on historical events. but clearly it's don't know it's not. we don't know what's said closed doors. as for said behind closed doors. as for the themselves,
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the audience themselves, particularly the international audience, is audience, i think there is perhaps a danger. of course perhaps a danger. but of course people make up own people can make up their own minds next few parts minds and the next few parts drop month. drop next month. >> what year? what year does it end on? >> 2005. it ends with the wedding of camilla and charles. so it ends on a happy. >> so i don't think going >> so i don't think we're going to pop up, pop to see lord cameron pop up, pop up to see lord cameron pop up, pop up in this because that's who we're talking next. we're talking about next. i thought was going to is thought there was going to be is when he became he became leader of conservative of the conservative party in 2005. >> oh, so maybe i haven't heard thing would doubt thing i would i would doubt i would the would doubt that the machinations a party that was machinations of a party that was very much in second place at the time would actually would actuallyokay it was a good attempt. >> it was it was me to try and link this up and make this show seamless, which is perhaps the seamless, which is perhaps the seamless thing. >> is this this the crown ends in 2005, but in many that's in 2005, but in many ways that's when cameron's career in when david cameron's career in the spotlight began . i like it. the spotlight began. i like it. there we go. because our new foreign secretary, lord cameron, is in ukraine for his first trip abroad, he's met with abroad, where he's met with president zelenskyy, who said he was grateful for the visit
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coming. of course, amid the conflict in the middle east, which has drawn which he says has drawn attention away from russia's brutal invasion. attention away from russia's bques,1vasion. attention away from russia's bru yes, theion. attention away from russia's bru yes, the former prime >> yes, the former prime minister, david cameron , lord minister, david cameron, lord cameron, has insisted that the uk will continue with its moral, diplomatic and military support and that britain will stand by them for, however long it takes. and it's worth noting, as announced by number 10 a short while ago, that the foreign secretary has now become the first uk minister to visit the black sea port city of odesa since russia's invasion. well all we can now speak with a former adviser to david cameron, phillip blonde and philip. >> first of all, is this david cameron stepping back into a role that he's really been missing for the last few years? does does it feel like david cameron had unfinished business? >> i don't know if it was unfinished business. i mean, he he certainly was very bored ,
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he certainly was very bored, served by lack of meaningful activity after he stepped down. but i think what's really important, crucial visit to a european democracy that is under assault by what is in effect, foreign power and it's very good to see david cameron making the argument he's he's making in the state, making philip, i'm afraid we're having a little bit of trouble with connecting your audio there. >> we'll see if we can re—establish a stronger line. but of course, david cameron's visit to ukraine is an incredibly important moment, not just for the united kingdom and the united kingdom's role when it comes to global view of ukraine. but also introspectively for the fortunes of the conservative party is this a is this a reset, do we think, potentially for rishi sunaks government? well it was a
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very deliberate and a deliberate visit by lord cameron, wasn't it, to go to ukraine, which we haven't been talking about as much since this israel—gaza conflict that erupted last month i >> -- >> so president zelenskyy will very much have welcomed his visit and not that i'm sure, whether david cameron cares or not, but boris johnson, former prime minister has also endorsed it, hasn't he ? he tweeted it it, hasn't he? he tweeted it because we know much support because we know how much support bofis because we know how much support boris johnson did give to ukraine. david cameron. ukraine. and david cameron. whatever their differences , he whatever their differences, he has admitted that. >> perhaps an branch >> so perhaps an olive branch for party unity there, as well as british foreign policy as well. millions of women to be able to get free contraceptive pills on the high street without having to see a gp starting next month , women in england will be month, women in england will be able to obtain a first prescription of the pill by visiting their local pharmacy , visiting their local pharmacy, and the move will give women greater choice over where to get the pill and will crucially free up appointments in gp surgeries
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to . to. >> well, joining us in the studio is the health and social affairs editor at the sunday express. lucy johnston . good express. lucy johnston. good afternoon. good to see you in the studio. i'm so used to talking to you down the down the lens normally. nice to see you here. hasn't this actually here. why hasn't this actually been introduced before ? why has been introduced before? why has it taken so long to get here? >> well, it is good news for women. it's a great thing that women. it's a great thing that women are going to have .more access. >> i think 60 years ago you had to be married before you could be the contraceptive be prescribed the contraceptive pill. so shows how far we've pill. so it shows how far we've we've way. so we've moved a long way. so that's great news. i think there are problems with the infrastructure try and get infrastructure to try and get the digital infrastructure in place so that pharmacies can talk to doctors. and there's still an issue around that. but it is part of a wider scheme to improve the scope or widen the scope of what pharmacies do. so that's called pharmacy first. and it's being rolled out over the next month . and it will the next month. and it will allow pharmacists to give prescriptions for common
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conditions such as sinusitis, such as ear infections, such as uncommon implicated urinary tract infections, think shingles is another one. shingles is another one. it's vital. but i think there's issues around that. so there's one one issue which is screening healthy women, presumably healthy women for a drug for a contraceptive pill. but there are questions. doctors are very a bit concerned. some doctors are concerned. some doctors are concerned about it, actually trying to diagnose because that takes a lot of clinical savvy. so what is an uncomplicated urinary tract infection? will pharmacists be over prescribing antibiotics, which is a concern which could lead to antibiotic resistance and lead to more health care needs. so that's a difficult one to do. and there are people that may have red flagged they call them red flag symptoms . sometimes flagged they call them red flag symptoms. sometimes a flagged they call them red flag symptoms . sometimes a backache symptoms. sometimes a backache can be cancer , you know, and can be cancer, you know, and have pharmacists got the training to really spot that . training to really spot that. and secondly, they don't have access to your full medical
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records. so they have a snapshot. there's something called a summary care record, but they won't have the whole lot. they don't know you. so it may be that it's posing a little bit of a risk there to increase the scope of pharmacists when they haven't got this. >> it cover the >> and does it cover the contraceptive pill per se because there's different types. that's right. >> yeah, exactly. so for >> yes. yeah, exactly. so for this so that's not diagnosed and problems for this, you can go and get the mini pill. progressive progesterone only pill and that's low risk and you can go and get that without any screening. you can get the combine pill, but you need to have blood pressure checks and other other screening because the pharmacists need to make sure that you're not at risk of strokes and other things because there are things that can stop women having this safely. so there are there are checks in place and i think it's i think it's overall a good thing for women. it's a good thing to be able to access these contraceptives more widely. but
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there are just concerns and the other slight worry is this digital infrastructure will the pharmacist, they say they'll tell the doctors what they're doing, but will the doctors then upload that onto your notes? you know , so there's this dialogue know, so there's this dialogue between the different between hospitals and pharmacists, ambulances , all the nhs. it ambulances, all the nhs. it doesn't talk to each other because the computer system isn't up to the job. and then of course , pharmacists are already course, pharmacists are already saying they're going under because they have not enough money. they've had cuts. they are under so much strain. so there are other questions there as the uk is fairly unique >> the uk is fairly unique whereby in order to access health care, you've got these sort points. it's sort of pinch points. it's either your a&e, whereas either your gp or a&e, whereas lots of other countries have this more pharmacy first approach. france i think is an example of one of those countries whereby the pharmacists can prescribe many more things without needing to see a general practitioner is there more that we can learn from some of these european countries? for example, that perhaps are ahead of us on this?
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>> absolutely . and i think we >> absolutely. and i think we look at the nhs as a whole and we spend, for example , the same we spend, for example, the same amount on our health care as the dutch. and yet you only you will wait one day, possibly two days, to see a gp in holland. they have more that they spend on their older people, on their social care. they have a certain budget for that and i think , you budget for that and i think, you know, one could say there are hundreds of millions of pounds being spent on this pharmacy first scheme and what it's intending to do or what the government says it hopes to do is free up 10 million appointments. that's only 83% of the doctor's appointment . but it the doctor's appointment. but it isn't a lot when and in a complex flow system will all the doctors will those appointment be filled up with someone else? you know, with something else still to work through infinite, infinite demand. but yeah, the whole system does need to be whole nhs system does need to be looked at. absolutely agree. and
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we could learn a lot from other countries. we absolutely could. >> well, lucy johnson, health and affairs editor the and social affairs editor at the sunday thank so sunday express, thank you so much for coming to in talk us through that issue. just lastly , through that issue. just lastly, at this hour, a 16 metre long whale has been found dead on the coast of cornwall. >> you love this story, don't you, tom? >> it's not every day you find a whale, is it? >> it was discovered on uk's fistral beach yesterday morning by members of the nearby activity centre. now fin whales are the second largest mammal in the world following the blue whale . whale. >> well, gb news, south—west of england . reporter jeff moody england. reporterjeff moody joins us from fistral beach in newquay and jeff , are these newquay and jeff, are these whales come in around the uk? they sound rather more exotic . they sound rather more exotic. >> they do, don't they? but yes, they are pretty common. this is certainly not the first time this has happened by a long chalk. this particular whale, a female fin whale, was first seen
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on tuesday day swimming just outside fistral beach and it was said to be in a in a very distressed best condition. and then yesterday morning, that's when they found the carcase dead on the beach. well, a post mortem took place pretty soon afterwards, yesterday to find out how the whale died . we out how the whale died. we haven't heard the results from that at the moment. we're expecting those results either later today or tomorrow . the later today or tomorrow. the beach has been cleared of people . it's been closed since yesterday because there's a very real danger when you've got a carcase of a whale on the beach that the carcase will explode because of all the gases inside. so people have been steering clear of the beach . but the hope clear of the beach. but the hope was that possibly overnight the whale could have washed back out to sea and then be disposed of naturally. but that hasn't happened. it was still here this morning. and so the pretty gruesome task has taken place
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today to try and remove it from the beach and that involves not wanting to get into too many graphic details, but it involves chopping the animal up, chopping the whale up into pieces, and then trying to load it onto a tipper truck and take it away to an abattoir. that's going to be happening throughout the day today , although in fairness, it today, although in fairness, it is nearly done there nearly all the way through it . and then the way through it. and then it's a case of working out exactly how it died . exactly how it died. >> well, jeff moody, thanks for that sad tale. i suppose in the end . end. >> absolutely. and imagine the shock as you've come across that, because you might not be able to appreciate that in the pictures. but it was mass massive. >> the second largest mammal on planet earth. well, so much more to come in the next
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>> good afternoon. it is 1:00. you're with gb news live with pip tomson and tom harwood coming up this thursday lunchtime . lunchtime. >> also, keir starmer's problems just beginning after more than a quarter of his mps defied his motion by backing an snp calls for a ceasefire. ten shadow frontbench mps have been booted out. we'll get all the latest on this . this. >> foreign secretary lord cameron embarks on his first international trip since taking office. he's visiting ukraine to meet president zelenskyy, where
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he pledged the uk's continued military support. he becomes the first uk minister to visit the port city of odesa as well since the invasion began and the historic announcement from the nhs that millions of women will get the contraceptive pill for free from high street pharmacies i >> -- >> that's without having to see a doctor . now >> that's without having to see a doctor. now is this the key to freeing up more gp . appointments freeing up more gp. appointments and within the last hour, downing street has described pro—palestine protesters climbing onto the world war one memorial last night as an affront which will have appalled the public. >> now the met police chief, sir mark rowley, has said in the last few moments that arresting protesters for climbing onto a war memorial i can't even say it. war memorial would have been illegal and arresting them would have been illegal. >> i find that very hard to
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believe. >> we'll be getting into that. first, your headlines with sophia . sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. down king street says emergency legislation on rwanda scheme will be produced in the coming weeks. the government believes the changes will prevent systematic challenges to the policy . it's after the the policy. it's after the supreme court ruled it unlawful. number 10 says the vast majority of people sent to kigali will stay there. but exceptional cases may be sent back to the uk . conservative mp and former attorney general sir geoffrey cox says the proposals make sense . sense. >> the judges were very clear that there was sufficient evidence to give grounds for them to believe that there would be a risk of what is called refoulement. and i think on the evidence that judgement can't be faulted. what matters now is can those concerns be addressed? i
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think they possibly can. the prime minister has set out what i think sounds like a perfectly coherent plan. a lot will depend on the detail, both of the treaty and the bill he proposes. but it's a powerful and coherent way forward and i'm delighted the prime minister has now decided to grip this very important issue. lord david cameron has assured ukraine the uk will support the country for however long it takes in his first visit as foreign secretary, lord cameron spoke to president zelenskyy about supplying weapons to fight russia. >> he also visited the southern port city of odesa, where they visited a church damaged by russian strikes . russian strikes. >> i bought the strength and determination of the ukrainian people . and what i want to say people. and what i want to say by being here is that we will continue to give you the moral support , the diplomatic support, support, the diplomatic support, the economic support , but above the economic support, but above all, the military support that you need, not just this year and next year, but for however long it takes . it takes. >> the shadow defence secretary says labour isn't a party of
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protest and both firmness and discipline needed . john discipline are needed. john healey's comments come in the wake of a major rebellion over the party's position on the war in . 56 of sir keir in gaza. 56 of sir keir starmer's mps rejected their leader's stance and voted for an immediate ceasefire between israel and hamas. jess phillips , israel and hamas. jess phillips, afzal khan and yasmin kushari are among eight shadow ministers who left their jobs to back an snp motion . police could be snp motion. police could be handed new powers to protect war memorials after pro—palestine protesters were accused of desecrating a monument. a group of people climbed on the royal artillery memorial in london following a march outside parliament last night. home secretary james cleverly told broadcasters the behaviour was abusive and deeply offensive and he will examine whether the law should be changed at the met. police says while it's unacceptable, no laws were broken , the body of a sixth broken, the body of a sixth person was found following a house fire in west london earlier in the week. the met
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police said five people, including three children, had been found dead at the property in channel close after the fire on sunday night. but the police have now confirmed the body of a sixth person has been found at the scene. the deaths are being treated as unexplained as the police continue their investigation . train drivers investigation. train drivers will stage a fresh round of strikes to ratchet up the pressure in their long running dispute over pay. aslef for union members will walk out between the second and 9th of december with different train companies affected on each day. drivers will also refuse to work overtime . little progress has overtime. little progress has been made in the row , with union been made in the row, with union bosses rejecting pay offer bosses rejecting a pay offer back in spring. millions of women in england will soon be able to access free contraception on the high street without having to see a gp from next month. women in england can get the pill by visiting their local pharmacy. it's part of an nhs plan to free up appointment sites, easing pressure on doctors surgery as pharmacies will need to sign up for the
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service . the carcase of a fin service. the carcase of a fin whale is being removed and destroyed from a beach in cornwall. believed to be a young female. the mammal was discovered on newquay's fistral beach yesterday . specialist beach yesterday. specialist machinery was brought in to tackle the job and people are being urged to avoid the area . being urged to avoid the area. cornwall wildlife trust says marine experts are working to identify the cause of the death. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to tom and . pip welcome back. >> now the israel—gaza conflict is causing an ever growing rift within the labour party, as mps voted on the king's speech, ten members of sir keir starmer shadow frontbench team ignored their leader's wishes and backed their leader's wishes and backed the snp's ceasefire amendment. >> in total , the snp's ceasefire amendment. >> in total, 56 of his mps refused to join the fight for
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humanitarian pauses, preferring a permanent halt instead . a permanent halt instead. >> now amongst the rebels were major names such as jess phillips, rosena, allin—khan khan, sarah champion, stella creasy and barry gardiner. khan, sarah champion, stella creasy and barry gardiner . well, creasy and barry gardiner. well, joining us now to talk through all of this is gb news political correspondent olivia utley and olivia. eight shadow ministers to shadow pm's ten shadow frontbench members gone in total. it's hard to remember the last time a double digit number of frontbenchers were booted off. >> well, absolutely . i can tell >> well, absolutely. i can tell you the last time a double digit number of shadow benches were were removed or walked out anyway, and that was in the dying days of boris johnson's government when 16 ministers walked out. obviously, this situation is very different. it's not going to pose a sort of existential crisis to keir starmer. he's pretty secure in his role. while the tories engagein his role. while the tories engage in their sort of endless
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civil war and all of the ministers who've stepped down, including jess phillips, who's very influential within the party, have said that they will continue to support keir starmer from the back benches . and keir from the back benches. and keir starmer has even suggested through his loyal ally , john through his loyal ally, john healey, that when, if and when labour does win the general election, then at least some of these shadow ministers could be welcomed back on to the front bench. so it's not a sort of massive, massive existential crisis for keir starmer or the labour party, but it is a problem. keir starmer very much has been wanting to show over the last few weeks that he is in control of his party over this issue of israel. he wants to show that he has purged the hard left corbynistas from his party and on the whole he has managed to show that he's done just that . now, though, that party unity is beginning to crumble a little bit. and last night he simply could not keep the labour party
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disciplined enough to follow his lead on this vote that could cause problems for him . it could cause problems for him. it could bode badly for him further down the line, particularly if labour only manages to win a slim majority at the general election. it shows that his his power isn't at all consuming . power isn't at all consuming. >> so there will have been some relief for him, though, won't there? that that the people who sit around his top table, the shadow cabinet, that there was no one who defied him there were ho. 110. >> no. >> and that will be a relief to him because just a couple of weeks ago we were all on shadow frontbench resignations and watch. everyone was expecting one of those shadow cabinet ministers to resign. he seems to have managed to contain the rebellion there over the last few weeks. he's done quite a lot of speeches, announcements where he has talked a lot about the humanitarian pause, which is also what the government is calling for. but the tone which
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keir starmer is using is clearly designed to try and show those on the on the left of his party, perhaps, or those who are particularly supportive of the palestinian cause, perhaps because there is a big muslim contingent in their constituencies that he is taking the plight of gazans seriously on the fundamentals , though he on the fundamentals, though he has completely held his line. he has completely held his line. he has said that the labour party, a labour government, would be completely behind israel and he has held firm to that. even though it has now cost him ten shadow ministers. >> oh yeah, dramatic times indeed. olivia hartley, thank you very much for bringing us the very latest. let's get some more now with the former political secretary to tony blair, of course, the former prime minister, john mcturk keenan. john however, you spin this , this isn't a good look for this, this isn't a good look for sir keir starmer. this breakdown in party discipline, because after all, is it not the case that an mp who has rebelled against their leader once
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because comes more likely to rebel in the future too, and that's where this might become challenging for keir starmer think. >> i think you are grasping at straws. >> there . the division in the >> there. the division in the labour party is between two different proposals to get to the same destination, which is lasting peace and lasting security in israel . security in israel. >> and the last settlement for israelis and palestinians to secure so i don't really see this in any way comparable to what we were talking about. the big mass resignation to bring down boris johnson or a rebellion against the difference on how to get to peace . on how to get to peace. >> keir is clear , put forward >> keir is clear, put forward the same proposition progressing in israel as the labour leader in israel as the labour leader in australia. the labour minister in norway , the minister in norway, the socialist prime minister in spain. here is shoulder to shoulder, not just with the eu,
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not just with the us, but with sister party prime ministers across the world and this is what he's doing. he's showing you if in a year's time it was a labour government basically yes, there will be people who do want peace so desperately. they want israel to give up arms, but you can't have a ceasefire if one of the sides, hamas, the terrorists, won't actually agree to it. you only get a ceasefire when both parties i think this is a one off vote. it's not an issue that will come on week after week in this term of parliament. and it's not going to be an issue that comes back when labour is in government after the election. so i think this has been well done here and it's not it's not an issue of left right, it's not an issue of non—core brownite. jess phillips at least corbynite shadow minister, you could imagine . so minister, you could imagine. so her resigning, this is all about
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individual views , about the best individual views, about the best way to get peace, individual views to represent what their constituents are asking them to do. and if you do what you're not what your leader wants, then you will pension. >> sir keir starmer will still be under continued pressure over this, won't he though? for as long as this conflict continues? it's not just a case of that was the vote and this all goes away . the vote and this all goes away. >> but how will he be under pressure to. >> well, because mps will be listening to their constituents . listening to their constituents. yes. and many of their constituents will agree with wanting a ceasefire, especially those where there are a lot of muslim constituents . muslim constituents. >> yes, i'm sure there'll be there'll be mps, backbenchers calling for a ceasefire that's right. but they'll be doing it from the backbench . they can't from the backbench. they can't put pressure on here. you've made the position clear. you've made the position clear. you've made a speech setting out in detail his approach to the middle east, and he is shoulder
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to shoulder with the only person influenced the future of the middle east, which is president biden. >> jess phillips as an individual, you named her. let's look at her case in particular. she was, of course, shadow safeguarding minister, something that she took incredibly seriously . violence against seriously. violence against women and girls is such a huge issue. and yet jess phillips walked away from that brief all to do with something you determine is a matter of semantics . yes. do you think semantics. yes. do you think really that what is going on here is that jess phillips thinks that semantics matters more than her work to protect women and girls or is there clearly something deeper going on here? >> again, you're grasping at straws . it's very clear that straws. it's very clear that jess phillips disagrees with me on the means to get peace. she doesn't agree with me on the ends again. that is that is what progressive politics is about. we don't disagree on the ends. we don't disagree on the ends. we disagree on the means. and john, couldn't you say that about everything?
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>> couldn't say that rishi >> couldn't you say that rishi sunak and keir starmer disagree on to create a on the means to create a wealthier and happier and perhaps even more equal society ? perhaps even more equal society? they just disagree on the means to get there. you could describe any political issue in that way . any political issue in that way. >> that's complete nonsense . >> that's complete nonsense. rishi sunak has demonstrated . rishi sunak has demonstrated. over the past year and the previous part of the tory administration that he's committed to destroying the british economy. we don't share . british economy. we don't share. >> you think do you really >> do you think do you really think that's a reasonable thing to say? john mcternan do you think sunak say think that rishi sunak would say i destroy the british i want to destroy the british economy do think that economy or do you think that these individuals who these are two individuals who want grow economy see want to grow the economy but see different ways of doing it? so the the most, most the most, the most, the most destructive night in destructive action last night in the house of commons was when an amendment was moved by the labour party , an amendment labour party, an amendment calling extended calling for extended humanitarian pause, an amendment calling end to siege calling for an end to the siege in gaza hospitals , the in gaza of the hospitals, the tories voted that down because they wanted to cause division in they wanted to cause division in the labour party and that is
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petty politics and everything is done by this government is done not in the national interest, in the narrow interest of the tory party and we see that working out at the moment in rwanda, where rishi sunak says in one breath, we respect the rule of law. >> we stand by the rule of law and says, well, i'm going to do is pass another law to try to change the actual facts about rwanda, try to bludgeon the supreme into agreeing supreme court into agreeing with me. the story all over me. i'm the real story all over the media this morning. all morning is rwanda . tomorrow morning is rwanda. tomorrow we'll be doing the hard work from opposition, winning power, but also hard working with sister parties around the world. those in power, particularly to get the international negotiator on, to get to the two state solution, which is , in the end solution, which is, in the end the for just palestinians solution, which is, in the end the forjust palestinians and the for just palestinians and israel and will be secure for them in the future, might find it a little bit harder to do that work with ten fewer members of his frontbench. >> just finally john cleese fine. just finally 100 mps after
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election. >> we're fine . >> we're fine. >> we're fine. >> you reckon you'll win 500 mp5? >> you reckon you'll win 500 mps? that is a bold prediction, but i mean, i suppose on current polling it's quite, quite possible . possible. >> if john mcternan i think you're grasping at straws there . you're grasping at straws there. >> well, we'll see. we'll come back after the general election. 500 i bet. yeah, i'll bet you a pints. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> okay. if >> okay. if it's >> okay. if it's 499, >> okay. if it's 499, you >> okay. if it's 499, you still owe me , right? well during the owe me, right? well during the king's speech votes, of course, while that massive nations were going on on those green benches outside of parliament, protesters were once again holding a rally . and we're holding a rally. and we're joined by our home and security editor mark white to discuss this. because, mark, there was there was a lot of controversy, particularly by what a lot of these individuals did to our to our war memorials. >> yes. protesters that had scaled a war memorial in central london who were asked to come down, who came down, but they weren't arrested. and a lot of
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people really quite concerned about that. you're looking at the pictures now for those on television. it shows free palestinian protesters up on this war memorial being asked ever so politely by the police to get down, which they do do eventually , and they come down, eventually, and they come down, but they're not arrested now. so, mark rowley, the metropolitan police commissioner , has been talking on this issue to this morning at policing conference. this is what he said i >> -- >> the explicit things about last night , >> the explicit things about last night, it is it is not illegal to climb onto a statue. >> i think that might be something that government may may consider. but that's for them to decide, not for me . the them to decide, not for me. the officer recognised that whilst it wasn't illegal, it was sort of it was unfortunate , of it was unfortunate, inflammatory in certain ways. the officers at the scene asked them to get down and they did what he also said, which many
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people will not be able to get their heads around, is that arresting protesters for climbing onto that war memorial would have been illegal. >> well, well , it's interesting >> well, well, it's interesting because after we chatted last hounl because after we chatted last hour, i went away and thought maybe i'm being a little harsh on the police and the met commissioner in claiming that they have no powers to arrest people for climbing on monuments and other things . and other things. >> and i found that people were arrested for climbing on eros , arrested for climbing on eros, for climbing up lampposts, for climbing up the shard and the cheesegrater there and on bndges cheesegrater there and on bridges and all manner of things . over recent years, people have been arrested on suspicion of trespass on public order offences, on creating , on offences, on creating, on suspicion of a public nuisance. what is he ? what is he? >> mark? this is the crucial thing here, isn't it? there isn't a specific law against climbing up the shard. there isn't a specific against isn't a specific law against climbing up a bridge. but there
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are other laws that you can use to treat behaviour like that that surely would also apply to war memorials. >> yes. and listen, mark rowley may well be right that you know, in in actually trying to get a prosecute an out of an arrest, then perhaps getting on top of a monument is not going to stand the test of a court based prosecution. but but people can still be arrested, taken out of the picture , stopped from the picture, stopped from inciting others in the middle of a protest that they do regularly with eco protesters, with counter—protesters, with with, you know, those who are protesting against lockdown . and protesting against lockdown. and they do it when the mood takes them, when they decide that it is in the interests of policing a particular protest, that they need to go in and make arrests and clear people away from locations is at a specific time they will go in and they will be
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quite robust. clearly they have adopted other tactics with regard to what we're seeing here in terms of climbing and scaling this particular monument. you can argue that was right or that was wrong, depending on the viewpoint you take. the met might say that what they were about was trying to defuse a situation , not create a protest , situation, not create a protest, more tensions and a big public order situation . there was only order situation. there was only a couple of hundred people there. they could actually have gonein there. they could actually have gone in and arrested if they wanted to. it's different when you've got maybe 100,000 or more that are out in the streets. you move in and arrest people. in those circumstances , then that those circumstances, then that could descend into violent protests. so you can see why it's about evidence gathering with a view maybe to identifying individuals and prosecuting them at a later stage. >> what he does admit, though , >> what he does admit, though, is that there's elements of current police powers which do
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not work very well, and he wants to discuss this with the government. >> right. well, there are lots of other people who think the police have got more than enough powers. if they use them appropriately . the government appropriately. the government has said that it is going to look at whether they could make some amendments, some tweaks to the current sort of public order legislation around protests to see whether they can give the police more powers . i'm not police more powers. i'm not saying they are going to do that, but they're going to look at it. but there are many people on the civil libertarian, civil, libertarian front who would actually think that the police have more than enough powers . have more than enough powers. and maybe this isn't the route we should be going on. maybe they just need apply they just need to apply those powers occasion a bit more powers on occasion a bit more robustly. is the difficult to see here? >> perhaps not a conscious level of two tier policing where one group will get special treatment over another. as we see that, it looks like those are the outcomes, but perhaps the inputs here are that if they're
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arresting a greenpeace protester who's alone and climbing up some monument somewhere , or if monument somewhere, or if they're arresting a vigil goer at the sarah everard memorial, these are people who perhaps are less likely to kick up to fight back , to cause a ruckus back, to cause a ruckus potentially. is it the case that in groups like these that we're seeing on our screens now, where there is a heightened level of tension , frankly, they're less tension, frankly, they're less likely to make arrests because the crowds could be more violent i >> -- >> it's i 5mm >> it's i think generally with big protests, they are less likely to make arrests. generally whatever the type of protest, if it's a large scale pubuc protest, if it's a large scale public event and making arrests can actually be counterproductive because you can in incite people to actually become more violent. and then you're dealing with a much more
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dangerous , worse situation going dangerous, worse situation going forward . so there's another forward. so there's another issue that might be at play here. the metropolitan police has been , you know, over the has been, you know, over the years , pounded quite badly by years, pounded quite badly by people that say they are, you know, institutionally racist. so it may be, you know, that certain protest groups , there is certain protest groups, there is a special sensitivity be around that because they don't want to be accused of rallying in in and about people of colour or different races and religions as there are more demonstrations planned for this weekend aren't they. >> so police will be tested again. >> yeah i'm i'm not going out this weekend though. i did it last weekend. >> you did a valiant job last weekend. >> an appointment at the pub. >> an appointment at the pub. >> well, home and security editor mark white there, who this weekend hopefully will be having little bit of a quieter having a little bit of a quieter time than the pretty dramatic scenes last weekend. >> stay with us here on gb news
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live. we're going to downing street as the home secretary doubles down on the government's rwanda plan, despite it being ruled unlawful by the supreme court. we'll bring you the very latest. stay with
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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> well , the reverberations from >> well, the reverberations from yesterday's supreme court ruling keep rumbling on through the
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conservative party, the government and indeed the country. today the home secretary, james cleverly , has secretary, james cleverly, has been speaking about what exactly are the next steps for the government's response to that extra ordinary ruling. let's speak once again with gb news political editor christopher hope, who joins us live from downing street. and chris, what has the home secretary been saying today ? saying today? >> well, he's been giving some of the detail as you say, tom, the nuts and bolts as he described on this plan to try and once and for all stop the boats. they're going to update what's called a memorandum of understanding blown understanding into a full blown treaty told by treaty. now, we're told by a number 10 downing street in a briefing journalistsjust number 10 downing street in a briefing journalists just a briefing for journalists just a few from where am few yards away from where i am now, emergency legislation now, this emergency legislation will be put forward in the coming weeks. so that's very they want to do it as quickly as they want to do it as quickly as they can. and there's no question clock question the target, the clock is ticking this target. the is ticking on this target. the pm get these first pm wants to get these first flights off from may from flights taking off from may from spnng flights taking off from may from spring year. well in time spring next year. well in time for the election, if it's going
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to summer or in the to be in the summer or in the autumn. also, crucially, the type of legislation going through parliament is so important here. it will be primary legislation . what that primary legislation. what that means in in layman's terms is that mps and peers must both approve it. now mps are likely to get it through because the tory party has a majority, a working majority of around 50in the house of commons. after all the house of commons. after all the defections and the different defections and defeats that the party suffered since 2019. but in the house of lords, the tory tory government, the tory party, i should say, i should say, is not in a majority party and they've got to persuade to support this persuade peers to support this legislation into a legislation if it goes into a full drama, that full parliament act drama, that will and will will take much longer and will delay flights taking off. delay these flights taking off. so again, we're probably so yet again, we're probably facing drama around this facing some drama around this legislation the house of legislation in the house of lords in about february time, march time next and how march time next year, and how that plays out define that plays out will define whether the pm can actually stop the boat once and for all. >> yes, chris, because this plan wasn't in the conservative party manifesto, they can't use what's known as the salisbury addison
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convention to dig up my politics degree knowledge. there it's look, it's it without using salisbury addison the house of lords can delay this legislation by at least a year. that takes us beyond the next general election . the tory party only election. the tory party only hold one third of the seats in the house of lords. so is this all just posturing before an election ? election? >> well, it doesn't quite take it beyond the election, but it might mean the election must be in january 2025, tom, because if this legislation is introduced , this legislation is introduced, as it should be before christmas . but you're right, of course it will delay it for ages if that happens. and the salisbury convention, as you say, there, is meant to mean that the peers can only delay legislation for up to a year before it must go through using the parliament, parliament act . if that has to parliament act. if that has to happen, i don't think the optics isuppose happen, i don't think the optics i suppose politically is you have a democratic democrat elected government trying to get their will passed . a lib dem
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their will passed. a lib dem labour dominated house of lords along with the non—affiliated peers . so they're looking like peers. so they're looking like they're trying to do people's work. but frankly, i think even on that point, work. but frankly, i think even on that point , the talking has on that point, the talking has got to stop . earlier i spoke to got to stop. earlier i spoke to sir geoffrey cox. he's a former attorney general about how he thought it had gone wrong and whether he thought the pm might get this right. finally here's what he had to say. >> look, there's a crisis of confidence in the entire system and we can't simply turn away from it . the government is from it. the government is addressing the problem in multiple ways. it's reduced by 20,000. those coming across the channel 20,000. those coming across the channel, it's reduce out the backlog by 40, 50,000. it's making real progress. but we have to seize this nettle . and have to seize this nettle. and there is a political crisis of confidence that needs to be addressed and it can only be addressed, i think, by the prime minister by putting this to parliament, both in the form of
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a treaty and in the form of a bill saying that this must now happen and the courts, faced with primary legislation , one with primary legislation, one would respect it . would respect it. >> one of the criticisms arms of the government for all this is in stead of waiting for the supreme court's judgement, why didn't the government just introduce this emergency legislation? it might have saved a lot of time in totally right pippa. >> and why not? yeah, i mean, why not get on with this? certainly we've heard that the similar remarks, haven't we, from suella braverman in a tweet we heard from boris johnson. it seems they've waited for this response rather than getting ahead of it, as geoffrey cox was saying there, there were holes in the home office's case that weren't a year ago. they weren't plugged a year ago. they knew what the problems would be, but they didn't take action but they didn't take the action in problem in time then. and the problem is this clock ticking on this the clock is ticking on getting this right. >> well, chris live from >> well, chris hope live from downing thank you for downing street, thank you for bringing very on bringing us the very latest on this turning saga this ever twisting turning saga of plan. of the rwanda plan. >> up, we're going to be
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>> coming up, we're going to be discussing the crown which has dropped on netflix today and the final series has premiered. first, your headlines with sophia . sophia. >> it's 133. sophia. >> it's133. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . some breaking in the newsroom. some breaking news. five met police officers and three former officers are being investigated over the handung being investigated over the handling of the investigation into serial killer stephen port . into serial killer stephen port. the police watchdog says it's looking into potential gross misconduct over the case. port killed four men in east london between june 2014 and september 2015. a lawyer for the victims family says the investigation must be seen to be full and fearless as down downing street says emergency legislation on the rwanda scheme will be produced in the coming weeks. the government believes the changes will prevent systematic challenges to the policy and will make it clear the country
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isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . welcome back. six till 930. welcome back. >> now it's a big day for royal watchers as the first half of the final season of the netflix series , the crown was posted series, the crown was posted onune series, the crown was posted online today. >> joining us in the studio to discuss it is royal commentator michael cole and michael, you were telling us that you are the only person that knew all three people in that car that died. >> i knew diana for 12 years, and of course, i knew dodi for 12 years. >> and when i was in paris from time to time, henri paul used to drive me around . and so i knew drive me around. and so i knew him quite well . i don't believe him quite well. i don't believe there's anybody else in the world who knew all three people who and died who tragically and terribly died that night . but talking about that night. but talking about the crown , of course, i wish the crown, of course, i wish you're going to take special
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interest then in these scenes depicting the car crash, some people are saying is grotesque. >> other people are saying it moved me to tears . moved me to tears. >> well, i wish i'm not i'm not down on the crown the first two series depicting a young winning, beautiful girl, queen elizabeth ii played by claire foy, was an advertisement for a constitutional monarchy . and the constitutional monarchy. and the people at buckingham palace were hugging themselves with glee. it was so successful. later storylines were more difficult , storylines were more difficult, more scandalous. but i do wish the very talented peter morgan, who is behind this, had stopped at the end of series five. i'm very sorry. he's gone further forward to series six, which will depict the terrible crash . will depict the terrible crash. it stopped short of the alma tunnel. thank goodness for that . tunnel. thank goodness for that. but it does deal with those things . and i'm afraid there's things. and i'm afraid there's quite a lot in it which is total nonsense because it somehow
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suggests that mohamed al fayed, who i knew for 37 years, contrived this romance. now, at the time, princess diana was 36, dodi was 42. they'd first met not that fateful summer. they met ten years earlier. they knew each other . and they're saying each other. and they're saying that he somehow made them fall in love with each other. well, mohammed had many talents, but i don't think he could make two adults fall in love with each other. you'd have you'd have to be you'd have to be. >> let me ask you a couple of questions. >> yeah, you'd have to be svengali to do that. >> you're working for mohammed al fayed at the he offered al fayed at the time, he offered dodi partnership in dodi a partnership in his company he married diana. company if he married diana. that's one of the scenes depicted in the crown. >> it's nonsense. i've never heard or witnessed or even heard any reference to all of that. where on earth that's come from? ihave where on earth that's come from? i have no idea. >> kelly fisher, dodi fiance, was sequestered on one of fayed's yachts while father and son entertained diana and her boys. >> kelly fisher was there. she
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was dodi's previous girlfriend . was dodi's previous girlfriend. and she and she she was in the south of france that summer. >> so some of what is depicted will be true. >> well, of course, that's the thing. and this is exactly the problem. >> is it sensationalism? >> is it sensationalism? >> it's like enough to the truth that people think that all of it's almost if all of it was more fictionalised , it wouldn't more fictionalised, it wouldn't be so much of a problem. but because there are those nuggets of truth , truth sort of of truth, truth sort of interweave between the fiction, it becomes very hard to discern what's real and what's not. >> as as a political correspondent, you will remember that two former prime ministers, blair and major, major both gave the show a good kicking . and the show a good kicking. and therefore, it runs this health warning at the beginning, saying it is dramatised fiction. well, that's what it is. it is fiction i >> -- >> judi dench so crass sensationalism . sensationalism. >> well, who's going to argue with dame judi? i mean , she is with dame judi? i mean, she is the leading lady of the british
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theatre . it's all very sad and theatre. it's all very sad and all very sorrowful . i wish they all very sorrowful. i wish they hadnt all very sorrowful. i wish they hadn't done it. i truly do. >> do you think it's too soon? >> do you think it's too soon? >> oh, well, it's 26 years since the terrible deaths. but then they bring diana back as a ghost. i mean, weren't these events dramatic enough that you have to bring back a ghost? i have to bring back a ghost? i have never felt that ghosts as a dramatic device really work . dramatic device really work. there are three ghosts in dickens in in christmas. carol but that's a fairy tale. there are two ghosts in shakespeare. but i've never felt that banquo's ghost has ever really worked. so do they really need ghosts? >> and they never used that dramatic device in the very first series of the crown, which is probably the best one. >> yeah. and there's another peculiar device. when the news comes through to balmoral castle that the princess has been killed , they don't. they don't killed, they don't. they don't have any dialogue. they have people speaking. but the voice is taking out, although
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apparently you can see prince harry saying no. interestingly see prince harry allegedly has seen don't worry . listen, it's seen don't worry. listen, it's your show all afternoon over cuppa. >> and fortunately, we've got to talk about lord cameron going to ukraine. but thank you so much. >> i wish him well. >> i wish him well. >> they're really interesting chatting to you about this . we chatting to you about this. we binge watching it this weekend . binge watching it this weekend. >> thank you very much, tom. have a good show. >> thank you very much, tom. ha\well,ood show. >> thank you very much, tom. ha\well, royaliow. >> thank you very much, tom. ha\well, royal commentator >> well, royal commentator michael cole there, who, of course, was very close to all of that well our new that action. well our new foreign secretary, lord cameron, is in ukraine for his first trip abroad, where he met with president zelenskyy, who said he's grateful for the visit coming, of course, amid the conflict in the middle east, which has drawn some global attention away from russia's brutal invasion . brutal invasion. >> lord cameron has insisted that the uk will continue with its moral, diplomatic and military short and that military support short and that britain will stand by them for however long it takes . and the however long it takes. and the foreign secretary has now become the first uk minister to visit
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the first uk minister to visit the black sea port city of odesa since russia's invasion . since russia's invasion. >> well, let's welcome back the former adviser to david cameron, philip blonde. we had a couple of problems with your audio earlier. hopefully we've reconnected and re—established that line . david cameron is that line. david cameron is someone who sort of almost disappeared from the public consciousness for some years . consciousness for some years. there's been there's been some criticism that this is almost a redemption arc for the former prime minister >> well, i'm sure it is. i you know , and he's not been without know, and he's not been without how can one put it, scandal in the interregnum . so i think it the interregnum. so i think it is a redemption arc. um, but that said, i think he will be an effective foreign secretary. um it's clear zelenskyy made much more of a deal of his visit than he has with previous british foreign secretaries . so i just foreign secretaries. so i just think we, we need to, you know , think we, we need to, you know, always deal in reality. and he has enormous soft power. so as
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i've said , ever since this i've said, ever since this appointment was announced, i think he will be a very good, very effective foreign secretary in this role . in this role. >> philip, one of the criticisms of rishi sunak is that there are some who claim he's not a people person. is lord cameron . person. is lord cameron. >> look , actually i hear the >> look, actually i hear the reverse . um, people speak of reverse. um, people speak of sunaks personal charisma. um i think cameron cameron persuaded a lot of people to vote for him in 2010. um i think the issue is, is that on a strategic level, the what sunak is now doing is kind of giving up on the 2019 electorate has gone back to the hopeful appeal of the 2010 electorate. um but as we've seen from these recent polls that electorate no longer exists , losing the majority that
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exists, losing the majority that the conservatives lost in 2019 does harms them immensely. we're down to some polls below 20% and i thought i was being too extreme when i said i thought they'd drop to 20% and let me, you know , if you actually do you know, if you actually do a brute and crude calculation, which isn't true, that means the number of conservative seats go somewhere between . 50 to 60 on somewhere between. 50 to 60 on the level of swing that we're looking at at the moment, which i don't think will happen . but i don't think will happen. but they've just hit the polls for they've just hit the polls for the lowest ever rating for the conservative party in recent times, with the sole exception of just after liz truss's budget debacle. so personally, i think he will be a good foreign secretary but strategically, the reversion to the 2010 offer
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isn't playing with the electorate. and i think things are going to get worse. it's hard to imagine the tory party winning, for example, some of those brighton seats that david cameron won in 2010 and 20. >> i think it was just 2010. he lost 1 in 2015. kemptown i think anyway, i'm getting into the details there, but philip blonde, thank you much for blonde, thank you so much for talking us through david cameron's to cameron's sensational return to frontline frontline politics now millions of women are going to be able to get free contraceptive pills on the high street without having to see a gp starting next month. women in england will be able to obtain first prescription, a first prescription of the pill by visiting their local pharmacy rather than their gp. >> the move will give women greater choice over where to get the pill and will free up appointments in gp surgeries as well. we can now speak with pharmacist thorin govan to discuss this. good afternoon thorin, thanks for talking to us on gb news live. you're going to potentially be a lot busier
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aren't you ? and how are you aren't you? and how are you going to cope with it? well we are going to be busier, but this is a fantasy, artistic way forward for women's health. >> we know that people often have trouble accessing health care services , so we want to care services, so we want to make sure that we can support our patients in the community so we will be busier. and this is going to be rolled out. so we want the public to support us with this. it won't be available immediately , but i think this is immediately, but i think this is a really positive step forward. >> and of course, it's not just the contraceptive pill that will be available from pharmacies rather than gps, a number of other perhaps more basic prescriptions , for want of a prescriptions, for want of a better term, are going to be delivered with this pharmacy. first model introduced. of course , by the son of course, by the son of a pharmacist, the prime minister. is this is this a new way to deliver health care that will really free up a gummed up part of our health care system? i know many people can imagine or
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have experienced that. 7:00 am agony of trying to get one of those gp appointments. >> well, in other parts of the country, in scotland and wales, it's working well that people can access support like this . so can access support like this. so my really fundamental here is it's about time that england was able to access the same level of health care as in the other countries. we want to make sure that people can get timely access to health care and that's access to health care and that's a key point here, isn't it ? you a key point here, isn't it? you want to be able to walk into your pharmacy. you may have to have a little wait, but you won't be waiting weeks and weeks to speak to a trained healthcare professional . professional. >> can you say to women >> and what can you say to women to just reassure them that they are going to be completely safe here because some might be a little bit concerned, thinking , little bit concerned, thinking, oh, i'd rather go and see my gp? what reassurance can you offer? >> well, there's pharmacists already working in gp practices . already working in gp practices. we are pharmacists who are out in our communities. they're pharmacists working in hospitals
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. there's pharmacists in all settings and we have that keen eye on medication and tailor it to the individual . and that's to the individual. and that's why we're trusted on our high street. and we often get people just coming in with queries about medication action. so you are going to be in safe hands with a trained pharmacist and the rest of our team because we don't work alone. >> the only thing that might concern some people is that that conversation , when they come to conversation, when they come to get the contraceptive pill, it might not be completely private if they're, you know, they've got a queue of people behind them. well we have a confidential private room where you can go in with a chaperone and we can have those conversations in private . conversations in private. >> we're used to having very sensitive conversations as well , sensitive conversations as well, because we already provide emergency contraception. we already counsel patients on their medication . there's a their medication. there's a whole array of services, blood pressure monitoring as well , pressure monitoring as well, that we're already doing, and we're providing that in a safe
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environment for patients in the public. >> foreign gavin govan apologies , pharmacist. really appreciate you going through all that with us.thank you going through all that with us. thank you. >> now off what has opened an investigation into whether a south—east water has failed to develop and maintain an efficient water supply over the last 18 months in the latest water company performance report, ofwat categorised south—east water as lagging behind and as it is the worst performer for water supply interruptions in england and wales. >> well , wales. >> well, south—east water wales. >> well , south—east water say >> well, south—east water say they acknowledge the decision by ofwat to open this investigation and that they intend to fully cooperate with ofwat on this m atter. >> matter. >> but gb news reporter theo chikomba joins us now to tell us more. and i suppose people up and down the country will be thinking, is there is there any water company that's actually doing its job at the moment that's not in hot water? very good. >> certainly the question many customers across the country will be asking. now, this investigation comes at a time
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where they're looking at their water supply resilience, essentially meaning can they adapt when issues come up, when challenges come up, as we've seen over the last couple of months and indeed the last couple of years, water companies find themselves in this situation where they sometimes don't have water and it leaves tens of thousands of homes in various counties without water. and now this investigation has been announced today . and if we been announced today. and if we look at some of the figures actually an average of three hours and two minutes were lost per property . and that's that's per property. and that's that's way more than their committee , way more than their committee, which they say is five minutes and 45 seconds. and they have spent £232 million on debt than and infrastructure , according to and infrastructure, according to and infrastructure, according to a study that was done by the university of greenwich this yeah university of greenwich this year. and just looking at some of their recent failures , 6000 of their recent failures, 6000 homes were left without running or water for around a week in
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june this year , a 286,000 homes june this year, a 286,000 homes are in the same situation just before christmas in 2022. and they also had interruption with supplies, which includes did discoloured water in february last year, resulting in a fine of £3.2 million last year by the regulator for offered. so it's an issue that's affecting millions of and south—east water imposed a hosepipe ban. >> i remember talking about this in the summer and they blamed the hosepipe ban on people working from home. >> they did indeed , as we've >> they did indeed, as we've seen over the last couple of years, the heat during the summer has been something that water companies have had to deal with. many more people needing water homes . and water in their homes. and interestingly, just last week, we were covering a similar company. so this was thames water. i don't know if you remember in surrey where we saw lots of people from guildford area having to come and collect water because of a power issue. and they're asking, well, these
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companies have lots of money. they're given their money to shareholders as part of dividends. but why aren't they able to cope with situations like this? and it meant that vulnerable people are left without water. i mean, one gentleman who said to me, i've been here three times now and i'm looking out for my next door neighbours who can't get any water. yeah. so people will be thinking, okay, an investigation has been launched. this doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be fined, but it's the start an investigation. but start of an investigation. but customers hoping customers will be hoping that this can situation resolved this can be a situation resolved for future. for the future. >> so this investigation started . are the next steps? . now. what are the next steps? when expecting to see when are we expecting to see some conclusion? some sort of conclusion? >> hopefully by the next >> so hopefully by the next couple weeks, they'll provide couple of weeks, they'll provide further clarification on that. they haven't given a specific time time frame, but time date on a time frame, but it will be something customers will can impose will be hoping they can impose something on these companies because it's something we keep seeing time and time again. >> yeah. and south east water say they intend to fully cooperate ofwat this cooperate with ofwat on this matter. you very
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matter. theo, thank you very much. plenty more to come much. well plenty more to come in the next hour , not least the in the next hour, not least the very latest on those labour party splits. >> stick
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us well. hello. it's just us well. hello. it'sjust gone 2:00. you're with gb news live with pip tomson and me, tom harwood coming up this thursday lunchtime . i'm ailsa keir lunchtime. i'm ailsa keir starmer's problems just beginning. >> after more than a quarter of
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his mps defied his motion by backing snp calls for a ceasefire. ten shadow frontbench mps have been booted out . we'll mps have been booted out. we'll bnng mps have been booted out. we'll bring you the latest. >> and the foreign secretary, lord cameron, embarks on his first international trip since taking office, visiting ukraine and president zelenskyy, where he pledged the uk to continue military support as he becomes the first uk minister to visit the first uk minister to visit the port city of odesa since the invasion began and the historic announcement from the nhs that millions of women will get the contraceptive pill for free from high street pharmacies without having to see a doctor . having to see a doctor. >> so is this the key to freeing up gp . appointments and some up gp. appointments and some remarkable reports. >> we are just getting in sensation events at the london assembly where mayors question time was halted this afternoon and reportedly items thrown in at london mayor sadiq khan will
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have much more on this right after your headlines with sophia i >> -- >> good afternoon . it's 2:01. >> good afternoon. it's 2:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. downing street says emergency legislation on rwanda scheme will be produced in the coming weeks. the government believes the changes will prevent systematic challenges to the policy . it's after the the policy. it's after the supreme court ruled it unlawful. number 10 says the vast majority of people sent to kigali will stay there. but exceptional cases may be sent back to the uk . conservative mp and former attorney general sir geoffrey cox says the proposals make sense . sense. >> the judges were very clear that there was sufficient evidence to give grounds for them to believe that there would be a risk of what is called refoulement. and i think on the evidence that judgement can't be faulted. what matters now is can those concerns be addressed? i think they possibly can. the
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prime minister has set out what i think sounds like a perfectly coherent plan. a lot will depend on the detail. both of the treaty and the bill he proposes, but it's a perfectly coherent way forward and i'm delighted the prime minister has now decided to grip this very important issue . important issue. >> lord david cameron has made a surprise visit to ukraine. he travelled to the black sea port of odesa during his first overseas trip as foreign secretary. speaking to his ukrainian counterpart , he ukrainian counterpart, he announced more support for the country , including the provision country, including the provision of essential winter supplies for people evacuated from frontline areas . five met police officers areas. five met police officers and three former officers are being investigated over the handung being investigated over the handling of the investigation into serial killer stephen port . into serial killer stephen port. the police watchdog says it's looking into potential gross misconduct over the case. port killed four men in east london between june 2014 and september 2015. a lawyer for the victims families says the investigation must be seen to be full and
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fearless . the shadow defence fearless. the shadow defence secretary says labour isn't a party of protest and both firmness and discipline are needed. john healey's comments come in the wake of a major rebellion over the party's position on the war in gaza. 56 of sir keir starmer's mps rejected their leader's stance and voted for an immediate ceasefire between israel and hamas. jess phillips, afzal khan and yasmin kushari are among eight shadow ministers who left their jobs to back eight shadow ministers who left theirjobs to back an snp motion . police could be handed new powers to protect war memorials after pro—palestinian protesters were accused of desecrating a monument at a group of people climbed on the royal artillery memorial in london following a march outside parliament last night. home secretary james cleverly told broadcaster that the behaviour was abusing and deeply offensive and he will be examining whether the law should be changed. the met police says while it's unacceptable , all no while it's unacceptable, all no laws were broken . we asked some laws were broken. we asked some members of the public at hyde
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park corner by the royal artillery memorial what they thought of the proposal. we shouldn't need legislation or rules to bring that to somebody's attention . somebody's attention. >> we know it's unacceptable . >> we know it's unacceptable. >> we know it's unacceptable. >> i appreciate that the law should be changed because we wouldn't be here today any of us, unless it was for our forbearers that fought for us. >> if someone wants to protest, it's very difficult thinking how they can do it legally . how can they can do it legally. how can they can do it legally. how can they express their terrible concerns about about what's happening? and if someone chooses to climb on a memorial . chooses to climb on a memorial. it's not right . chooses to climb on a memorial. it's not right. but i don't think we should have a law to prevent it . prevent it. >> israel has warned a strong force may need to stay in gaza despite the us president saying occupation of the strip would be a big mistake. occupation of the strip would be a big mistake . it's after a big mistake. it's after israeli forces raided the al—shifa hospital and said weapons and infrastructure belonging to hamas were found. the terror group denies the claim. joe biden says he's made it clear to israel's prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu that a two state solution is needed to resolve the conflict . up to to resolve the conflict. up to 10 million appointments could be freed under government plans. the new health secretary says pharmacies will be given more powers to help people directly. it's part of an nhs proposal to cut waiting lists . millions of cut waiting lists. millions of women will soon be able to access free contraception without having to see a gp. victoria atkins says it will ease the pressure on doctors surgeries through pharmacy first. >> not only are we expanding the existing services that are available to members of our community, both in terms of blood pressure checks and contraception services , but contraception services, but we're also going to be rolling out it powers new powers for pharmacists to help people with seven of the most common and bafic seven of the most common and basic conditions. so really freeing up up to 10 million gp appointments. >> train drivers will stage a fresh round of strikes to ratchet up the pressure in their
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long running dispute over pay . long running dispute over pay. aslef union members will walk out between the second and 9th of december with different train companies affected on each day. drivers will also refuse to work overtime . little progress has overtime. little progress has been made in the row, with union bosses rejecting a pay offer back in spring. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now . now it's back play gb news now. now it's back to tom and . pip you . to tom and. pip you. >> good afternoon. now, despite the supreme court ruling on the rwanda plan being unlawful, james cleverly, the home secretary has doubled down on the policy . in secretary has doubled down on the policy. in an secretary has doubled down on the policy . in an interview secretary has doubled down on the policy. in an interview this morning, the home secretary said ministers remain absolutely determined to begin deporting migrants to rwanda before the next election. >> he also defended the government's plans to introduce emergency legislation to deem rwanda a safe country, something
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former supreme court judge lord sumption has described as a profoundly discreditable plan and constitute really, really quite extraordinary. so let's get the thoughts of gb news political editor christopher hope. political editor christopher hope . good afternoon to you, hope. good afternoon to you, christopher . hope. good afternoon to you, christopher. home hope. good afternoon to you, christopher . home secretary christopher. home secretary determined to get flights off to rwanda before the election. when i was at school, chris, there's something we might say in response to that, a phrase we used to use, and it went as follows chinny wreck on chin back on pip chinny reckon as that means what? no chance , no chance. >> right. well, i tried to bet the pm yesterday in his press conference with a pint of gb news bitter or maybe farage bitter that no one will fly off to rwanda before the next election. and he sadly wouldn't take my question or therefore wouldn't take my bet. but the chile back on is a good way of describing it because i'm not entirely sure this will happen. there's a we've today from there's a we've heard today from number the briefing
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number 10 in the briefing shortly , a few yards from where shortly, a few yards from where i'm now, they will be i'm standing now, they will be some emergency legislation aimed at this can get at ensuring this scheme can get up and running within the up and running within within the coming means a new coming weeks. that means a new treaty different to the memorandum of understanding currently agreed with with rwanda. and in that treaty, it will say the rwandan will say that the rwandan officials return officials there can't return anyone who's flown from the uk to rwanda for processing to the country they came from and put them at risk. so it's that guarantee the judges want and that's what the government hopes that's what the government hopes that parliament can pass this act . now, get through act. now, it will get through the mps in the house of commons because the government majority because the government majority be harder , as tom harwood be much harder, as tom harwood knows, clearly, much harder knows, very clearly, much harder to get through the house of to get that through the house of lords because of something called the of mandate called the lack of any mandate in election. they can't use in the election. they can't use previous , allow them previous conventions, allow them to their through the to force their way through the laws may have to wait as laws and may have to wait as much as a year to get it through. that's a problem. the pm say he hopes to get these pm did say he hopes to get these flights taking off as late as may next year in the spring, but
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thatis may next year in the spring, but that is looking difficult. yeah, definitely no definitely chilly back on, no question about that. pip. >> i've got a theory here >> chris, i've got a theory here which is goes a bit like this. in 2019, the conservative party found it very successful to run almost as an opposition party. they were running against parliament. they were saying we need to break the deadlock, we need to break the deadlock, we need to break the deadlock, we need to get brexit done. therefore give us a majority. could it be that rishi sunak actually quite wants the house of lords to block the rwanda flights , wants the courts to flights, wants the courts to block the rwanda flights so that then he can fight next year's election by saying, look, i'm trying to deliver for you, but all of these institutions are stopping me . give me a mandate. stopping me. give me a mandate. and do you know what? i'll reform the house of lords. i'll change the way the supreme court works. we'll change our relationship with the echr. could this be a sort of 2019, a nascent 2019 strategy? maybe. perhaps beginning . a great idea,
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perhaps beginning. a great idea, tom and that idea might have worked, i think personally in 2019. >> i think for many the time for talking is over. we are many of our viewers, people who voted for brexit in 2016, conservatives , supporters, many conservatives, supporters, many labour supporters want the government to stop talking about it and get on with it, and they haven't it far. and that haven't done it so far. and that , think, is a frustration , i think, is a frustration earlier i spoke , i think, is a frustration earlieri spoke sir , i think, is a frustration earlier i spoke sir geoffrey earlier i spoke to sir geoffrey cox. of course , the attorney cox. of course, the attorney general, through much those general, through much of those brexit theresa may brexit wars and the theresa may and gave me his view of and he gave me his view of what's happened with this rwanda plan. here's what he said. >> look, there's crisis of >> look, there's a crisis of conscience evidence in the entire system, can't entire system, and we can't simply turn away from it. the government is addressing the problem in multiple ways. it's reduced by 20,000. those coming across the channel. it's reduced the backlog by 40, 50,000. it's making real progress. but we have to seize this nettle . and have to seize this nettle. and there is a political crisis of confidence that needs to be addressed and it can only be addressed and it can only be addressed , i think, by the prime
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addressed, i think, by the prime minister by putting this to parliament, both in the form of a treaty and in the form of a bill saying that this must now happen and the courts, faced with primary legislation , often with primary legislation, often would respect it . would respect it. >> and there you have sir geoffrey cox speaking to gb news earlier. now his big beef, i think, is why why couldn't the home office deal with the problems that were quite apparent from when this the rwanda case was heard in lower courts? why couldn't they get on the front foot and tackle those issues rather than instead they could have slept, walked into this supreme court defeat this big supreme court defeat just two days ago? and that's the problem. i mean, why can't why couldn't why is plan b only being emerging now and time is ticking for this government. i mean, tommy, of course, mean, tommy, tom, of course, you're that's a great you're right. that's a great strategy. i think time strategy. but i think the time for strategy over and the for strategy is over and the time for action on small boats is now . is now. >> there are some mps, though, chris, who just want the government to get rid of plan b,
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start again, try and do some sort of deal with the french, which . which. >> well, we are, we are. we can't do deals yet because of the eu . we previously could do the eu. we previously could do deals within the eu, but now we can't. now we're outside the european union . you can't just european union. you can't just do a deal with the french. it's with the entire european union. now, the rishi sunak to his credit, done a deal with credit, has done a deal with albania and that with albania and that combined with worser weather over the summer, has meant that the number of small crossing it fall small boats crossing it did fall by that's a victory, by around 30. that's a victory, but it's not stopping the boats . but it's not stopping the boats. i should say also, pip, that we are expecting next week, on thursday , net migration figures thursday, net migration figures showing the numbers of migrants who arrive here fully legally on the government's watch and that could be higher than the 600,000 who came last year. that's numbers that were allowed that are allowed to come here. now. thatis are allowed to come here. now. that is for many not controlling our borders. and indeed , the our borders. and indeed, the illegal crossings are one thing, but allowing so many to come
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through our borders is another . through our borders is another. so i think this issue is nowhere near over or even settled. but the idea of bilateral deals with the idea of bilateral deals with the eu won't allow the french, the eu won't allow it. well , the french, the eu won't allow it. well, christopher hope, it. mm well, christopher hope, live from downing street , thank live from downing street, thank you very much for the very latest this ongoing saga latest on this ongoing saga where really where the government is really struggling to get on top of the issue , the israel—gaza conflict issue, the israel—gaza conflict issue, the israel—gaza conflict is causing an ever growing rift within the labour party as mps voted on the king's speech, ten members of starmer's shadow frontbench team ignored their leader's wishes and backed the snp's ceasefire amendment. >> yes, that's in total 56 of keir starmer's own mps refusing to join his plan for humanitarian pauses , preferring humanitarian pauses, preferring the snp's plan for a permanent halt instead . ad well amongst halt instead. ad well amongst those rebels were major names such as jess phillips , rosena, such as jess phillips, rosena, allin—khan, sarah champion , allin—khan, sarah champion, stella creasy and barry gardiner . but of course during the king's speech vote pro—palestine protesters once again were
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holding one of their rallies outside westminster. >> we're joined by our home and security editor mark white, who's back in the studio downing street. mark has described protesters who climbed on that war memorial last night and said it was an affront. and they have suggested that police could could be given new powers to take action. well potentially, yes. >> it was very disrespectful, there's no doubt about it. the images have been widely circulated. now that show these protesters and we can see them here on gb news television on wearing their pro—palestinian flags and carrying their placards up on this warm memorial, climbing all over it and persuaded by the police to come down, but not arrest it. and that's what's angering people , because they have seen people, because they have seen in previous protests people being arrested , shouted for being arrested, shouted for climbing up on lamp posts or bus shelters or on top of monuments or up the side of buildings. you
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name it. people have been arrested for a variety of offences . however, the offences. however, the metropolitan police commissioner, sir mark rowley, doubung commissioner, sir mark rowley, doubling down today at a police conference when he was asked about this , saying effectively about this, saying effectively no offence was committed, which is curious because mark, you've been going through examples today of when the police have acted, when protesters have scrambled across monuments and memorials and the like. >> is there two tier policing going on here? >> well, certainly there appears to be on occasions opportunities for the police, which they have taken to arrest people who have been up on the statue, who have climbed the shard or the cheeseburger in london, who've been on bridges like the dartford bridge , various bridges dartford bridge, various bridges across the thames, multiple instances where people have been arrested for climbing on top of
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things for a variety of different offences . us so yes , different offences. us so yes, the government might be looking at whether there needs to be more specific powers given to the police, but others would argue the powers are there. the police just need to use them. and even if it's just about intervening to initially arrest people and take them away from an incident that they might be inflaming and inciting by being on the top of something and shouting to their fellow supporters just to take them out of the picture that is in itself worth doing. even if you don't, then secure a prosecution further down the road . further down the road. >> can we just ask you about israel and gaza and what is happening there? because we know that israeli military have been moving into the al—shifa hospital. there's also suggestions today that they that jets have targeted the house of hamas's so—called big chief. >> yeah, i've lost count of the number of big chiefs. i've heard
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about that. the israeli defence forces have managed to take out in recent weeks. so yeah , a lot in recent weeks. so yeah, a lot of them are described as commanders as well . they're the commanders as well. they're the big chiefs. they're not in israel, they're in qatar, they're in qatar and various other places around the middle east. so the big chiefs are out of the picture and relatively safe for the moment. but in terms of the hospital, you're right, that operation is ongoing. it started yesterday with ground troops going in that received a lot of criticism. but the same people who are criticising israeli airstrikes should surely welcome them. a ground operation without shots being fired, entering the hospital to look around and see if their premise there are claims that hamas actually has command and control bunkers underneath that hospital is true. so far, they found weapons and explosives , but no sign of
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and explosives, but no sign of the tunnels. but it's a massive hospital complex they've got to search. >> so it could be that they do find these tunnels at some point . it's interesting seeing what they have discovered already, guns and munitions hidden amongst medical supplies . amongst medical supplies. >> yeah, this is cornelius. one of the commanders giving a little what we call in the industry a show and tell, taking people around this part of the al—shifa hospital complex where they have discovered said weapons and explosive lives and other terrorist paraphernalia in there, rocket launchers and the likes . so they are still looking likes. so they are still looking for the tunnels. but as i say, it is a massive complex . they it is a massive complex. they are convinced that their intelligence is correct, that there is a tunnel systems and command and control bunkers underneath the hospital. the americans are just in the last few days have backed the israeli defence forces up on their
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assertion, saying that they're intelligence also suggests that as well. so let's see what happens when they properly manage to search over the coming days. what exactly they find. but they are still convinced that that these command centres are underneath this hospital and that actually on the day of that terrible atrocity on the 7th of october, hundreds of hamas terrorists who had been born in israel had run back across the border into gaza. hundreds of them were seen disappearing into them were seen disappearing into the al—shifa hospital. and it's believed down into the bunkers. but as we see those images of israeli soldiers in that hospital , you've got israeli soldiers in that hospital, you've got millions of people and the world health organisation saying going in to a hospital where there are civilians, there are children , civilians, there are children, there are babies, it is unacceptable . all well , is it unacceptable. all well, is it unacceptable? i don't know. they're going after a terrorist entity there. that is apparently
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using the hospital as a shield that has a command and control. according to the idf, underneath the hospital . how do you deal the hospital. how do you deal with it? do you just ignore it and don't go near it? just because it's a hospital? what they're not doing is bombing the hospital. they are going in. they are not firing shots. as far as i've been told. they've entered the hospital . they are entered the hospital. they are looking around the hospital . are looking around the hospital. are they harming people? >> but israel has stopped medical supplies . there's a medical supplies. there's a situation where you see that incubators and i know all this can be contested. i know that. >> well, the israeli forces brought in with them dozens of incubators for children in that hospital and other medical supplies. how are them? >> well, they brought in fuel as well, isn't it? i think one of the one of the points was nowhere near enough . nowhere near enough. >> one jerry one of the >> one of jerry one of the points here that potentially points here is that potentially the run more the hospital will run more smoothly better resources smoothly with better resources and else with idf. >> there , as opposed to without . >> there, as opposed to without. and i just i just wonder, in
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cases like this, when you have a world health organisation, for example , saying no military can example, saying no military can ever enter a hospital , well, ever enter a hospital, well, would osama bin laden be alive today if instead of a compound in found hospital in pakistan, he found a hospital to under , then the to bunk under, then the americans would never have gone in. w.h.o. in. according to the who. >> think anybody who is >> i don't think anybody who is serious and objective about the situation doubts for a minute that hamas isn't using hospital tunnels and schools and other civilian areas to embed itself. the idf , just in recent days in the idf, just in recent days in searching another hospital, the indonesian hospital found these tunnel complex is underneath that hospital. as well, dug in positions within the hospital where terrorists from hamas were there and firing out at the idf forces. they are doing that. it is a very difficult issue , of is a very difficult issue, of course, because you have civilians very sick in need of help and shelter in the midst of
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what is an ongoing effort by the israelis to go after a terrorist claims civilians dying because they can't be treated , babies they can't be treated, babies dying because they can't be on the on the incubators, the hospital, it is claimed fast turning into a morgue. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and the israeli defence forces would say the sooner they deal with the hamas terrorists , deal with the hamas terrorists, then the sooner they can get proper support into these hospitals and other civilian areas to help people out. as i say , it is it's a very difficult say, it is it's a very difficult situation . no one denies that situation. no one denies that the israelis are very alive to the israelis are very alive to the images that are being beamed around the world. but they see that this was always part of hamas calculation that they strike israel on the 7th of october to elicit a response. that means israel goes in to take out hamas , but they're take out hamas, but they're embedded in the civilian population. so then the images that go around the world are of israel using disproportionate force and killing lots of civilians . that then
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force and killing lots of civilians. that then brings about this revulsion around the world that pressurises israel into eventually stopping. that's a cycle we're in. but highly cynical people as we see that death toll rising and rising, many people will be going, well, hang on, how many deaths is too much here? >> we're into apparently double figures now. how many deaths is it? before you go stop from israel's point of view, from the israeli government and the idf, they won't stop until they have achieved their goal of ensuring that the hamas terrorist organisation is no longer able to pose a threat to israel's civilians and today, i have to tell you, i was actually showing michael cole for our bbc correspondent , royal correspondent, royal correspondent, royal correspondent and a foreign correspondent and a foreign correspondent who has been in israel many, many times. >> i was showing him the app that i've got on my phone for the rocket attacks , 12 separate the rocket attacks, 12 separate rocket attacks throughout the
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course of today that have been launched by hamas terrorists . launched by hamas terrorists. it's from gaza into israel. they're still there, so they're capable . capable. >> city is still very much alive. >> significant because there are hundreds of miles of tunnel complexes under many, many buildings throughout the gaza strip that are popping up. they're launching their rocket attacks and they're disappearing back down or their ambushing the idf. there's a job of work that the idf still have got to do. it's horrific what is happening. there's no doubt . it is there's no doubt. it is absolutely horrific . but israel absolutely horrific. but israel say they're not going to stop until they ensure that the hamas terrorist organisation is no longer a threat to its civilians and that these hostages are found who, of course, are still being run through these tunnels. >> and as we were seeing pictures just there on our screens , is munitions being screens, is munitions being found in these hospitals? not yet. the tunnel complex? not yet yet. the tunnel complex? not yet yet. this command node, as the americans describe it, or command centre, as the israelis
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describe it. but certainly munitions as guns and the and the parts to make up these rocket launchers to. >> oh, yeah. i mean, it's perfectly possible or of course it is that the search and search and search at the al—shifa hospital and don't find hospital and they don't find these tunnels that their intelligence is wide of the mark. i think it's doubtful, though , because the americans though, because the americans have come out very publicly and said they have intelligence that also suggests this is the case. and as i was saying just a couple of minutes ago, so they found in recent days the indonesian hospital also in gaza city , where tunnel complexes and city, where tunnel complexes and other hamas terrorist positions were there right within the hospital complex itself. so hamas do do this. they have got form for it. so let's see what they find as they continue their search hopes were raised this week that there could . be 50
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week that there could. be 50 hostages released. >> there were negotiations happening . have those now ground happening. have those now ground to a halt . to a halt. >> i hate to sound cynical, but i've heard hamas say exactly the same thing just about ten, 12 days ago when i was in israel, 50 hostages is that they said were being put at risk because of the continued ground war that israel had launched that they were just within ten days of securing the release through qatar of these 50 hostages. they also said that dozens of hostages were killed because of israeli bombing . so i take israeli bombing. so i take pretty much everything that hamas says with a massive pinch of salt. they are a terrorist organisation . in at the end of organisation. in at the end of the day, let's see in the fullness of time whether we see any more releases . remember, any more releases. remember, they have only released four hostage days since the beginning, since the 7th of
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october, and that was in the early days of the war against hamas in gaza. early days of the war against hamas in gaza . four hostages to hamas in gaza. four hostages to two americans released an end . two americans released an end. two israelis were released a week later, and then one female soldier from the idf was rescued by her comrades. and that is it. no word at all. >> 240. >> 240. >> and you just know they are being kept because it is expedient for hamas to do that . expedient for hamas to do that. at some point, they will probably be needed to get hamas out of whatever situation it's in, in the hope they , i'm sure, in, in the hope they, i'm sure, believe that that might stop israel's concern , renewed israel's concern, renewed intervention to take them out. >> well, mark white, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there, both in london and in gaza. but we're going to be jumping back to london in just a moment because mayors question time at the london assembly has been interrupted . more
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part of an nhs proposal to cut waiting lists. millions of women in england will also be able to access free contraception without having to see a gp from next month . and you can get more next month. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now now it's back to pip and . tom now it's back to pip and. tom >> welcome back. now royal insiders are said to be furious about the latest claims made by prince harry and meghan's biographer , omid scobie has biographer, omid scobie has shared an extract of his new book, endgame making claims that prince harry was kept in the dark about the queen's health in the hours before she died. the book also says there may be no going back for the brothers. it claims william sees harry as a, quote, defect for, well, gb news royal correspondent cameron walker joins us now. >> cameron , another interesting >> cameron, another interesting book from him then. do you think the duke and duchess of sussex gave tacit approval , let's say,
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gave tacit approval, let's say, for this book? we can't be absolutely sure what we can do is look back at ometsuke kobe's previous work, which is finding freedom, which he co—authored a biography of the duke and duchess of sussex . duchess of sussex. >> now, initially in legal documents . lawyers for duchess documents. lawyers for duchess of sussex denied that she had had any involvement with that particular book. and then in 2021, she apologised to the high court in london for forgetting that she briefed an aide, jason cunliffe, the former communications secretary of meghan and harry at kensington palace, to collaborate essentially with both omid scobie and the other author , scobie and the other author, caroline durand. i think it was . caroline durand. i think it was. so if you take that as a kind of a basis of what omid potentially could do to, it would suggest that perhaps he has very good sources for this book, but we don't know for sure. >> interesting what they'll say in public versus what they'll say under oath in court. in public versus what they'll say under oath in court . and say under oath in court. and what does this mean, therefore ,
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what does this mean, therefore, for this latest revelation , for this latest revelation, particularly around the days and hours before the late queen's passing , hours before the late queen's passing, what hours before the late queen's passing , what have we learned? passing, what have we learned? >> well, i think a lot of this information was already in the pubuc information was already in the public domain. i think what's interesting to me is how it perhaps contradicts certain versions events. so, for versions of events. so, for example , all in prince harry's example, all in prince harry's memoir , spare, where he talks memoir, spare, where he talks about the day the queen died, he says received a phone call says he received a phone call from his father in the afternoon to say that you need to make your way to balmoral. remember that buckingham released that buckingham palace released that buckingham palace released that that that first statement saying that doctors concerned for the queen's at in omid queen's health at 1232 in omid scobie version of events and actually , to be honest, a lot of actually, to be honest, a lot of the media reports at the time harry was contacted in the morning very early in the morning very early in the morning before his father travelled from dumfries house in ayrshire to be at ayrshire via helicopter to be at balmoral bedside of queen elizabeth ii in in the book in the extracts, which has been released of omid scobie's book, it talks about prince harry being left in the dark about plans for the queen's death and
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the fact that no one invited him to on the private jet, which to be on the private jet, which took other members of the royal family, prince family, including prince william, aberdeen. prince william, up to aberdeen. prince william, up to aberdeen. prince william answering texts from william not answering texts from prince harry, which we'd heard all before in his memoirs all before in the in his memoirs spare. but tom bower's book, which is another royal biography, explained or alleges the reason why prince harry was not on that plane with the other royals was because he was essentially very upset that prince, the then prince charles, banned meghan from coming up to balmoral, and there was a bit of touring and throwing, refusing touring and throwing, refusing to get on the jet, essentially. and then prince william's the most senior member of the royal family on that plane, ordered the off without the plane to take off without harry up to scotland harry to fly up to scotland because they wanted get there because they wanted to get there in for the queen's death. in time for the queen's death. very them made it very sadly, none of them made it in time. the queen died at 3:10 in time. the queen died at 3:10 in the afternoon. that's tom bower's of omid bower's version of events. omid scobie's version. very different. don't different. of course, we don't know the truth on how close know the full truth on how close to that that 3:20 did you say? >> did that plane load of royals
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arrive? i.e. if harry hadn't allegedly held that plane up on the tarmac, might they have got there in time? >> i don't think we can say to be honest. so they were in the they were in the air when the queen died and their plane landed.i queen died and their plane landed. i think it was just after 3:30. prince harry, interestingly , in omid scobie's interestingly, in omid scobie's book, it alleges similar to what? omid scobie similar to what? omid scobie similar to what harry's memoir said, that harry learns of the queen's death via a bbc news notification . now what omid notification. now what omid scobie's extracts reveals or alleges is that there was a huge fight between prince harry's team and buckingham palace on that day because they knew prince harry was in the air on a chartered jet from luton to try to get to aberdeen. and they were trying to stop the palace from releasing statement from releasing the statement announcing death at announcing the queen's death at 630 harry landed so he 630 until harry landed so he could be told by his father before the world knew as it turns out, the palace had decided to go with it. according to omid scobie .
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to omid scobie. >> and relations between the two brothers, as from what we can gather in this book, relations are very much well in the gutter. >> it looks like it. we have to remember when the queen died, spare hadn't been released. neither the net flicks neither had the net flicks series. it it just shows. series. but it it just shows. i think , that there's been no think, that there's been no change when it comes to prince harry and prince william's relationship . kensington relationship. ukip kensington palace. not palace. absolutely not commenting on this extract. neither is archwell or buckingham palace either. but i think it's safe to say they're not talking. but i do know for a fact that prince harry and meghan both spoke to the king on his birthday. a source has confirmed that to me, which suggests to that there's suggests to me that there's a bit olive branch going on bit of an olive branch going on with meghan with prince harry and meghan with prince harry and meghan with at least in terms with the king at least in terms of mending that relationship. but is not going to but this book is not going to help. but this book is not going to helwell, steps , maybe >> well, small steps, maybe one step one step back, step forward, one step back, perhaps. >> but cameron walker, thank you so bringing us the very so much for bringing us the very latest there . now, plenty more latest there. now, plenty more to after this short break. to come after this short break. and we'll finally be getting to this about the london this news about the london assembly raucous the
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assembly and a raucous with the london mayor
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sunday mornings from 930 on news i >> welcome back . now, the london >> welcome back. now, the london assembly had been forced to adjourn this afternoon after sadiq khan was heckled and an audience member threw an object from the public gallery . from the public gallery. >> gb news understands the item was a letter for sadiq khan thrown by a member of the
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audience. and this is the moment of the interruption . of the interruption. >> can you hold on, please? >> can you hold on, please? >> can you hold on, please? >> can we stop? please? someone's just throw something at me . something at me. something >> could we have a security guard to. don't touch that. could we get a security guard in to here deal with this, please ? to here deal with this, please? that's it. we're going to adjourn for five minutes. and who is ? who is? >> well, moments of confusion there at the london assembly. tell us to tell us more is gb news digital political editor milly cooke and milly . what? milly cooke and milly. what? what inspired this protest? milly cooke and milly. what? what inspired this protest ? well what inspired this protest? well hi, tom. >> we're not 100% sure what the letter contained. and but i'm told by conservative sources that it was a disgruntled voter who was writing to in sadiq khan. we haven't seen the letter, but i am told it was sadiq khan and he was an annoyed voter. city hall won't comment on the letter. i emailed him about it. they wouldn't respond, but they directed me towards the
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met police, who are also yet to respond he respond and the voter he effectively he a london effectively he was a london voter. apparently he walked up to the and he yelled, to the glass and he yelled, sadiq please, could you sadiq khan, please, could you answer question before answer the question before throwing letter into the throwing the letter into the kind glass protected area kind of glass protected area where london assembly where the london assembly members sat and what was members were sat and what was the security like at the time? >> were were security very quick to react ? to react? >> i'm not sure they were because the letter landed and they assembly member had to interject and say someone's just throwing something at me. so it wasn't sort of an immediate response from security. and then the chair had to demand that security come in to the security come in to remove the item because they weren't 100% sure it was yet. and also sure what it was yet. and also then protester was then then the protester was then removed only after someone else had interrupted. removed only after someone else hacit's interrupted. removed only after someone else hacit's interestingpted. >> it's interesting that the whole adjourned. whole session was adjourned. obviously, mayor, question time isn't always the most feisty of occasions . isn't always the most feisty of occasions. is isn't always the most feisty of occasions . is does isn't always the most feisty of occasions. is does this represent anything wider when it comes to london politics? of course, the mayoral election is screeching up to . us
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screeching up to. us >> i think it does. you know, in recent weeks, we've seen a lot more heated events at things, especially things involving sadiq khan, mainly surrounding ulez. so just last week we saw people's question time, which was the chair had to almost stop the event. he threatened to kick out audience because out all the audience because there was so much heckling and so shouting. of it was so much shouting. most of it was around ulez. around anger towards ulez. at one the entire audience, one point, the entire audience, or at least a significant proportion it, were yelling, proportion of it, were yelling, get and i think it was get khan out. and i think it was sort of it gathered momentum as people lively the people got more lively and the event but a lot of it event went on. but a lot of it was surrounding anger about the expansion of ulez across london. >> heard anything from >> have we heard anything from sadiq khan since this incident? has any public comment has he given any public comment about millie . no, i don't about it? millie. no, i don't think he has. >> and when i went to city hall for comment, we haven't actually heard from them yet. they just said we won't comment and we're passing the met police. passing it on to the met police. >> the metropolitan police >> well, the metropolitan police looking no comment from looking at it, no comment from sadiq khan. i wonder, has the conservative side of the london
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assembly, the second largest party there, made any comment ? party there, made any comment? >> well, i was told that by conservative sources . so in conservative sources. so in susan hall's team that there were they think the letter was a disgruntled voter . we saw a were they think the letter was a disgruntled voter. we saw a big back and forth throughout the event between susan and sadiq on lots of issues. susan was sort of challenging sadiq on his record mainly about record as mayor, mainly about ulez and also increasing crime stats . yes, saw sadiq defend stats. yes, we saw sadiq defend his record government his record in government from challenges by susan. he was sort of saying that ulez is to protect londoners clean air if they've got clean water, they should have clean air and that he's put in place lots of policies to sort of mitigate the financial burden on lower income families and small businesses. financial burden on lower income fam susan1d small businesses. financial burden on lower income fam susan was nall businesses. financial burden on lower income fam susan was repeatedly sses. but susan was repeatedly challenging on this challenging the mayor on this and this this sort of incident. >> it's pretty unusual, isn't it? we don't hear about this very often . do do you mean very often. do do you mean people sort of throwing letters into the london assembly? >> yeah . yeah. i mean, it's sort >> yeah. yeah. i mean, it's sort of a it's quite it was almost a
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sort of peaceful form of protest because he didn't he said, please, could you be quiet, sadiq, please? could you answer the question? sadiq khan and he threw in. but it's, threw the letter in. but it's, it's an way protesting it's an odd way of protesting because of suggests that because it sort of suggests that he hasn't his queries he hasn't had his queries responded by the mayor because you'd would you'd think normally you would just letter or send an just post a letter or send an email. but instead he felt the need assembly and need to enter the assembly and throw it in. >> it really reminds me of a fathers for justice protest against blair in the mid against tony blair in the mid 2000 when they threw purple smoke canisters down from the pubuc smoke canisters down from the public gallery in the commons into and the house of commons was was cleared. it was very dramatic. but of course these things that was non toxic , things were that was non toxic, non dangerous. but we heard there in the london assembly them saying not touch that letter. it could have been very dangerous, have been, dangerous, it could have been, of poisonous. it is no of course, poisonous. it is no wonder, i suppose, that the assembly was adjourned. milly cook, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there. as we've seen some scenes of there in the london assembly. >> millions of women are to be
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able to get free contraceptive pills on the high street without having to see a gp starting next month, women in england will be able to obtain a first prescription of the pill by visiting their local pharmacy. >> the move will give women greater choice about where to get pill and will free up get the pill and will free up appointments surgeries appointments in gp surgeries too. so let's speak now with gp. with nhs. gp doctor sumitra chakraborty and thank you so much for making the time for us. isuppose much for making the time for us. i suppose this is all about the gp's. at the end of the day, how much time is potentially lost with doing relatively routine prescriptions like the pill at the moment ? prescriptions like the pill at the moment? oh at prescriptions like the pill at the moment ? oh at the prescriptions like the pill at the moment? oh at the moment. >> so yeah, thanks for having me on the show . on the show. >> yeah, we do prescribe a lot of contraception. i'm in a way happy that it's going to a safe space. it's going to the hand of our very well trained pharmacist that they will prescribe it for us and at the same time it will
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be easy for the patients to get access to their regular contraception pill . normally, contraception pill. normally, what is done in primary care is it's very safe in this country. why i say that? because if you go to any other many other countries , you just walk in and countries, you just walk in and you get your contraception pill. you do not know the pros and cons of taking contraception . cons of taking contraception. you do know you really you you do not know you really you should really go for that pill or not. but in nhs till now, thankfully it's done in a very safe manner . thankfully it's done in a very safe manner. so thankfully it's done in a very safe manner . so there thankfully it's done in a very safe manner. so there is a normally what nowadays is done things are getting more and more sort of tech savvy. we have , we sort of tech savvy. we have, we have, we call it template clinical template for prescribing it. so but again , prescribing it. so but again, end of the day the gp's need to do it and we can. i believe we can safely transfer this job to our pharmacist. so actually i am happy with this plan that patients will have to wait less throughout the country. everyone knows that it's very hard to get
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an appointment with the gp and we only apologise . we cannot we can only apologise. we cannot do much more than because do much more than that because most of time contraception most of the time contraception reception prescription is not something like very, very urgent. yes we take it on an urgent. yes we take it on an urgent basis , but if the urgent basis, but if the pharmacist can prescribe it, they can do it in a safe manner. they can explain all the possible risk and benefit and they can judge who fit the criteria of getting an oral contraception, then, yes, it would be a good step forward. >> yeah, it's quite a revolutionary change, isn't it? dr. chakraborty ? something that dr. chakraborty? something that maybe people wonder why it hasn't happened before now . for hasn't happened before now. for now, yeah . now, yeah. >> as a gp, i would wonder that. why did it not happen before ? why did it not happen before? because it's not something rocket science and our pharmacists are very well trained. they prescribe for many other things. they are taking over to bring so that we can see more and more complicated
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patient because as you know, around 8 million people are waiting for specialist appointment. so nowadays as gp, we do not do only the regular chronic disease monitoring and small and comfy jobs as the gp is used to do . small and comfy jobs as the gp is used to do. in small and comfy jobs as the gp is used to do . in earlier time, is used to do. in earlier time, we see a lot of complex cases . we see a lot of complex cases. so we our our hands are full of complexities with complicated cases which are supposed to be seen in the hospital , but seen in the hospital, but because patients are waiting. so we are seeing them. so i'm not saying contraception is less important , saying contraception is less important, but what i'm saying is contraception , prescription is contraception, prescription prescription oral contraceptive, oral contraceptive prescription can safely be transferred to the pharmacy . and it's a good step. pharmacy. and it's a good step. i would look forward to that. >> and how can can women be sure that that this way of getting their contracept is still absolutely safe? some might be worried that they're not going to be able to see their gp first. >> yes . i first. >> yes. i think if there is a
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history of any obstetric like or gynaecological complexities before then, i do not think the pharmacist will go for the contraception prescription. they will also not prescribe the non oral contraception, so they will only prescribe the pills which we in normal regular term, in non—medical term, we just call them pill. so there are different types of pills clinically and pharmacologic available. so i believe there will be a safe format definitely. as i mentioned that what we are doing nowadays in primary care in modern day pharmacy , because of the help of pharmacy, because of the help of our excellent i.t. staff that we are making template . so we are are making template. so we are going first that there is a criteria. so royal college of obstetrics and gynaecology has made the criteria . everyone made the criteria. everyone needs to follow that criteria that do you can you can you really have the pill because there are many women who do not fulfil the safety criteria. so we need to ask many regular
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questions. for example, the basic, very basic thing we need to ask do you smoke? what is your weight? do you have a history of blood clot in the family as well as yourself ? do family as well as yourself? do you have a history of any side effects or allergic reactions associated with contraception? the first and foremost thing is why do you need the contraception? okay >> nhs gp doctor cemetery chakraborty i'm so, so sorry . chakraborty i'm so, so sorry. we've run out of time because we're almost coming to the end of the show. but thank you so much for, for, for talking us through all that. and it does sound like it's going to be a lot easier you as well. now, lot easier for you as well. now, martin daubney here. martin daubney is here. what have got happening on your have you got happening on your show got and show next? we've got a law and order special tonight. >> videos just show the >> two videos that just show the problem got two tier problem we've got with two tier policing around protests. policing around these protests. a threatened arrest a guy threatened with arrest just shouting just for shouting at some pro—palestine protesters. and then, they were all then, of course, they were all over our war memorial. second topic, time to up and topic, it's time to beef up and protect our war memorials. topic, it's time to beef up and protect our war memorials . we protect our war memorials. we need we need stiff sentences for
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even those who climb it. and finally, rwanda . we're going to finally, rwanda. we're going to set out exactly rishi should set out exactly how rishi should break international law and get the off ground. the planes off the ground. >> lots of law and >> crikey. well, lots of law and order perhaps disorder. order and perhaps disorder. martin daubney. order and perhaps disorder. martin daubney . thank you very martin daubney. thank you very much. look to your much. we look forward to your show, of course. coming up. that's it for us. but we're, of course, again tomorrow. course, back again tomorrow. don't and with don't go anywhere and stay with us on gb news. us here on gb news. >> good evening. alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast. whilst for to be for many tomorrow is going to be a dry day, we have a largely dry day, we do have some rain to get rid of. first, this evening. that's in association a that's association with a front that's pushing from west to pushing its way from west to east. has already brought east. it has already brought some heavy across parts of some heavy rain across parts of northern earlier today northern ireland earlier today and pushing into western and is now pushing into western parts and parts of scotland, england and across wales, too. some heavy outbreaks as it makes its way eastwards. but the rain should break somewhat through break up somewhat through the night . some northeast night. some parts of northeast scotland will stay largely dry with clear some mist, with clear skies. some mist, some and some frost. here some fog and some frost. here elsewhere, clear behind elsewhere, clear skies behind the rain allow temperatures the rain will allow temperatures to a bit a dip. so a to take a bit of a dip. so a chilly start on friday morning
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with patches fog , with some patches of fog, perhaps freezing fog perhaps even some freezing fog in some spots any fog should in some spots to any fog should largely clear as we go through the morning. and it should be a mostly fine day. plenty of sunshine, too. just few sunshine, too. just a few showers , most towards showers, most likely towards western england, western parts of england, perhaps but will perhaps wales. but these will ease into the ease as we go into the afternoon. notice more afternoon. notice then some more cloud rain pushing its cloud and some rain pushing its way from the southwest. later way in from the southwest. later on. temperatures many on. temperatures for many a little bit higher today. little bit higher than today. still of a chilly still a little bit of a chilly feel towards the north, turning milder towards the south—west. then windy weather then wet and windy weather spilling across all parts we spilling across all parts as we go overnight into saturday. so it does look like going to it does look like it's going to be unsettled weekend . be a fairly unsettled weekend. the impacts from the the greatest impacts from the rain will the south—west rain will be in the south—west where we have already saturated ground. then as we go ground. but then as we go through sunday and into monday, it's to be a bit more it's going to be a bit more showery. so drier spells in showery. so some drier spells in between rain and between the rain and temperatures after temperatures dipping after a mild to
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>> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. and welcome to gb news. with me martin daubney tonnes coming up on an action packed show today, yobs didn't break the law claimed the met as pro palestine mobs crawl over war memorials, but we've got video evidence to prove we have to tear policing and we're going to put the case forward. it's time to protect our war memorials. rwanda what next for a beleaguered government? the plan is in tatters , but we've got a guy tatters, but we've got a guy who's going to tell rishi
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exactly why and how he should break into national law. after that. break into national law. after that . starmer once again, labour that. starmer once again, labour has gaza war breaks out as eight ministers resign . what's driving ministers resign. what's driving this? and we've got some analysis on the suspicion that it's about getting muslim votes. and finally, the crown is back. but is it too much information ? but is it too much information? is it too soon after the death of diana or is it just fiction? we've got all that coming up on today's action packed show . so today's action packed show. so get in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com, especially on that top story, those pictures of protesters on the war memorials in london have made you go mad today. but we're going to say is it time to beef up legislation? do you think we're just doing too we're too soft on these kind of protesters, but we're too harsh on people. for example, on saturday at armistice day, all that in this next hour. but first, your news headlines

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