>> welcome to the show. it's 3 pm. i'm martin daubney tonnes p.m. i'm martin daubney tonnes coming up on today's show, top story as just stop oil once again launch a series of protests to bring cities to a halt . i'm protests to bring cities to a halt. i'm going to get one of their head honchos into this studio and say , is it time for studio and say, is it time for you lot to just stop? >> next up, tax cuts at last sing hazanas. >> finally, some crumbs of comfort seem to be coming our way. rishi sunak has hinted as much this morning. we'll cross live to jeremy hunt at 340, hopefully with some much needed financial respite. next up , an financial respite. next up, an amnesty for illegal immigrants

who can't be deported to rwanda under this government's bedlam . under this government's bedlam. plans, we'll be saying, is this right? plus, we'll look ahead to this week's much anticipated net immigration figures could be as high as half a million this yeah high as half a million this year. an and finally, he's the man with the plan, the man down under farage is going to take that bushtucker trial. we've seen a sneak preview that they're making him eat udders and teats. you heard it right. here's my prediction. he's going to scoff it down and wash it down with remainer tears. all of that coming up on today's show. so what would you like to ask one of the top brass from just stop oil ? let me know. stop oil? let me know. vaiews@gbnews.com because they're going to be coming in this studio shortly. it's going to get feisty, but that's right after your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler.

>> good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sofia wenzel in the newsroom . we start with some breaking news. four men have been found guilty of murdering ashley dale in her home in august last year. james witham, joseph pierce, nile barry and sean zeiss were convicted in liverpool crown court of killing the 28 year old who was shot with a machine gun in her home in 2022. we'll have more on this developing story later . the prime minister more on this developing story later. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably . rishi sunak and sustainably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy now that inflation has been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt, building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. so now that inflation

is halved and our growth is stronger , meaning revenues are stronger, meaning revenues are higher , we can begin the next higher, we can begin the next phase and turn our attention to cutting tax. >> we will do this in a serious, responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independ forecasts of the office of budget responsibility . and we can't do responsibility. and we can't do everything all at once. it will take discipline and we need to prioritise . but over time we can prioritise. but over time we can and we will cut taxes . and we will cut taxes. >> boris johnson has been heavily criticised by his former chief scientific adviser , sir chief scientific adviser, sir patrick vallance has told the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was an effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus. when the spread of the virus. when the pandemic started. he described the scale of test and trace facilities as inadequate and said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it

should have been . sir patrick should have been. sir patrick was also asked whether the prime minister at the time was bamboozled by the science and the graphs. well i think i'm right in saying that the prime minister at the time gave up science when he was 15 at and i think he'd be the first to admit it wasn't his forte and that he did struggle with some of the concepts and we did need to repeat them often. >> certainly when i left a meeting, i would be i would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it was we were trying to say. but as one of the extracts showed that you put up there that six hours later he might not have remembered what was what was in that present station . that present station. >> the foreign secretary has formally been introduced to the house of lords as the former prime minister now takes the title of baron cameron of chipping norton. lord cameron wore traditional scarlet robes for the ceremony where he swore the oath of allegiance to the king . there are growing hopes

king. there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released . us, israel and qatari released. us, israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer. more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, only four have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital . video has been released of what the idf says are hostages being kept in al shifa hospital back in the uk, a father has called for proof of life of his irish israeli nine year old daughter, who was taken by hamas. speaking at a press conference at the israel embassy in london, thomas hans says his daughter emily was taken into gaza. >> i was i was you know, when i first thought she was dead, i could start the process of grieving for narkiss, the mother of my older two kids. and i could start grieving for emily. and then big tom in that moment,

i was just thrown back into the nightmare . and believe me, it's nightmare. and believe me, it's a nightmare . a nightmare. >> meanwhile , more than two >> meanwhile, more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from al—shifa have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible . the made the move possible. the hamas run ministry also says an airstrike on a different hospital has killed at least 12 people in the north of the territory. we a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a woman in dewsbury. officers were called to a property in the ravensthorpe area last night . ravensthorpe area last night. west yorkshire police says a woman in her 20s was found seriously injured and that she died at the short time later. 15 just a activists have been arrested following a slow march through central london. the group says it's stepping up its demonstrate actions demanding an end to new gas and oil licences .

end to new gas and oil licences. dozens of protesters walked from trafalgar square to whitehall on what they warned was the first of seven days of action. the met police says the area was cleared quickly . police says the area was cleared quickly. this is police says the area was cleared quickly . this is gb police says the area was cleared quickly. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . news now it's back to. martin an thanks for that sophia. >> okay. to our top story this houn >> okay. to our top story this hour. a number of just stop oil protesters have been arrested as they took to the streets of central london. some were handcuffed and put into police vans as they held a slow march in the capital. the environmental group is vowing to march every day from this point until it wins. whatever that means. the campaign will last seven days until november 26th,

demanding . now the government demanding. now the government stops all new licences for oil and gas control acts. well, we can cross now and get all the very latest with jimmy's reporter ray addison, who has been following the events today . been following the events today. ray, you're becoming something of a thorn in the side for the great unwashed protesting on the streets of london. first palestine and now just stop oil top to that man. so what top work to that man. so what happened were the police happened today? were the police finally once finally getting tough or once again, tea and sympathy ? again, was it tea and sympathy? >> well, the police definitely didn't hang around. they got tough straight away with just stop oil and just stop oil posting on their socials showing that they are absolutely livid are saying 15 people all arrested for marching for two minutes will now face up to one yearin minutes will now face up to one year in prison. this is what our democracy has become, end quote . democracy has become, end quote. the just stop oil. they're feeling very much that they should have been given longer for their protest . but of for their protest. but of course, the police arresting 15

activists under section seven of the public order act. that's allows them to make those arrests if they feel that a protester is interfering with road transport infrastructure. of course, those laws beefed up earlier on, earlier on this year by parliament. of course, that protest started at trafalgar square. they all met up at 12:00 , about 1230, about 50 of them headed to down whitehall. they told us that their intention was told us that their intention was to march all the way to parliament when they got onto whitehall , that section seven whitehall, that section seven nofice whitehall, that section seven notice was issued very , very notice was issued very, very quickly and those arrests happened very, very swiftly as well . only a few just happened very, very swiftly as well. only a few just up . all well. only a few just up. all members managed to get further than a say around 100m and they were all taken to the kerbside and some in handcuffs. some were dragged, some were picked up and carried . they were arrested. and carried. they were arrested. and then as you were saying, they were taken to those police vans.

martin okay. >> ray allison, thank you for that latest update. well, join me in the studio is james me now in the studio is james harvey, who took part in today's just stop oil protest. james, you're one of the organisers of just stop oil protests . how do just stop oil protests. how do you think the police handled today seems as more of a clampdown before we've seen them giving water, tea and sympathy . giving water, tea and sympathy. a lot of out there a lot of people out there getting bit with that. getting a bit fed up with that. do there's more of do you think there's more of a clampdown today? they do seem to be quickly be reacting very, very quickly and not letting people march on the is really the streets, which is really interrupting right to protest. >> and by the way, just to say i'm a spokesperson stop i'm a spokesperson for just stop oil, organiser, but oil, i'm not an organiser, but i am here because people have put their freedom on the line. they are 18 year olds. they're a 19 year olds being put on remand for peacefully marching in the street, asking for an end to new gas and oil license ing. >> james, these >> you say, james, that these are going to go on these protests until you win. what does winning look like? protests until you win. what doewell,�*|ing look like? protests until you win. what doewell, our look like? protests until you win. what doewell, our demandz? protests until you win. what doewell, our demand is for the >> well, our demand is for the government, which we regard as a criminal government to stop all new oil and gas licenses.

>> they won't do that. so what are you going to do next? >> well, the marches are going are you going to do next? >>continuee marches are going are you going to do next? >>continue innarches are going are you going to do next? >>continue in london,are going are you going to do next? >>continue in london, 12:00ing to continue in london, 12:00 every trafalgar every day, meeting trafalgar square, we'll marching in square, and we'll be marching in civil the civil resistance against the government, we believe are government, who we believe are committing acts of oblique genocide these policies of genocide by these policies of new gas . and we'll new oil and gas. and we'll continue they stop them . continue until they stop them. >> we look at >> okay. well, when we look at the energy demands of this country, if we just stopped oil , country, if we just stopped oil, we'd be back to the dark ages, literally, the lights go literally, the lights would go out. absolutely and so is that what you what you want is what you want? what you want is just for the lights go out? just for the lights to go out? >> not. >> absolutely not. >> no. no. >> no. no. >> what is your plan if you >> so what is your plan if you win? because if win , we can't win? because if we win, we can't run industry. we can't manufacture steel. can't manufacture steel. we can't manufacture steel. we can't manufacture concrete, we can't get around. the country will come to a standstill. why victory to me looks like we go back to living in canada. >> it's massive question. >> it's a massive question. i wish more time to talk wish we had more time to talk about but actually we have about it, but actually we have seven oil reserves. seven years of oil reserves. we're not talking about cutting seven years of oil reserves. we're iand alking about cutting seven years of oil reserves. we're iand gas1g about cutting seven years of oil reserves. we're iand gas overnight.jtting off oil and gas overnight. we've got use got those reserves. we can use whilst transition to whilst we transition to renewable energy and all the science is there. the scientists

know can this . we've got know we can do this. we've got improvements that we need to make grid. we've got make to the grid. we've got onshore we can onshore the wind that we can bnng onshore the wind that we can bring online. we've got masses of offshore and solar of offshore wind and solar energy online and of offshore wind and solar ercanl online and of offshore wind and solar ercanl and online and of offshore wind and solar ercanl and whatnline and of offshore wind and solar ercanl and what happens it can work. and what happens when wind what happens when when the wind what happens when the which it often the wind stops, which it often does it in the does when we need it most in the winter? it's a common question, does when we need it most in the wintthe it's a common question, does when we need it most in the wintthe science�*mmon question, does when we need it most in the wintthe sciencemltherejuestion, does when we need it most in the wintthe science1m|therejuestwe but the science is there and we know can switch to other know that we can switch to other parts the uk. there be parts of the uk. there may be some grid improvements that needed getting scientists to needed getting scientists on to talk store needed getting scientists on to talk energy store needed getting scientists on to talk energy because store needed getting scientists on to talk energy because don't wind energy because we don't have capable have batteries capable of, certainly size that certainly not on the size that we would need. >> so therefore we still >> so therefore we are still dependent if we dependent on fossil fuels. if we just oil, i'll put it to just stop oil, i'll put it to you we're to go you again. we're going to go back dark ages. back to the dark ages. >> simply not true. we know >> it's simply not true. we know from we've from the engineers that we've got moment that we got at the moment that we can use energy. we've got use renewable energy. we've got seven say, again, seven years, as i say, again, we've got years of oil and we've got seven years of oil and gas reserves. we can continue to use licences that are use these new licences that are opening the sea are opening up in the north sea are going nothing our going to do nothing for our energy security. they're going to for people's cost to do nothing for people's cost of living. >> would make more >> well, it would make more sense produce and sense to produce our own gas and oil opposed to importing oil as opposed to importing it from from from south america, from venezuela, america, venezuela, from north america, from which is

from australia even, which is what we do at the moment, because we'd surely energy sovereignty less , sovereignty would make us less, less, less, less vulnerable to tyrants like vladimir putin. >> so frustrating , isn't it? >> so frustrating, isn't it? because the trouble is, once these are given out these licences are given out to these licences are given out to the of equinor or bp, we the likes of equinor or bp, we don't own that oil and gas anymore. it's the open market anymore. it's on the open market and sell it the and they will sell it to the highest which probably highest bidder, which probably won't comes round won't be us when it comes round to however what to it. however what an opportunity for the opportunity we've got for the renewable energy can. we renewable energy that we can. we can invest in. now the government spends 236 on government spends 236 million on subsidies gas subsidies for the oil and gas industry moment. why not industry at the moment. why not put renewable energy? put that into renewable energy? >> james joseph, we'll put >> okay, james joseph, we'll put their a report their name today to a report in the guardian claim that the the guardian and claim that the richest 1% of the wealthy are super polluters . who funds just super polluters. who funds just stop oil? well actually, we're funded by ordinary people from around the country. >> well, you're more than half our donations now come from ordinary people around the country, me , your country, like you and me, your neighbours, whoever you're funded the funded by, primarily by the climate emergency fund, aren't you? >> and that was founded by aileen granddaughter aileen getty, the granddaughter of john getty, who's petro of john paul getty, who's petro chemical empire made him the

world's man . world's richest man. >> well, i'm sure what your >> well, i'm not sure what your point you're by point is. if you're funded by all if his all your money, if his granddaughter wants to fund a movement that is set up to stop new oil and gas, then great and it helps these young people that are on streets marching are out on the streets marching at i say, my at the moment. as i say, my friend noah, 18 year old, he's been working 16. he's currently on remand , facing trial for on remand, facing trial for marching in the street, asking for a liveable future. do you think right ? think that's right? >> think we have a law and >> i think if we have a law and it's breached repeatedly, for example, we saw on waterloo bridge just oil bridge recently, just stop. oil blocked ambulance with its blocked an ambulance with its blue on saint blue lights on the saint thomas's right thomas's hospital is right next to that. the hospital where to that. it's the hospital where my been. how would you my child has been. how would you feel the way to feel if a child on the way to that hospital died as a direct consequence fact that consequence of the fact that your mob of blocking the bridge disruption an disruption of any sort is an awful take. awful step to take. >> anyone that's that's >> and anyone that's that's either disrupted suffers any either disrupted or suffers any kind of injury as a result of our marches, it's a terrible thing to happen . but we know thing to happen. but we know civil resistance works . civil resistance works. >> i wonder if it does. one of your other founders, trevor neilson, stepped away from

neilson, he stepped away from the climate emergency fund , the the climate emergency fund, the primary funder of just faux pas, which is primarily funded on oil money, it's become money, by saying it's become disruption for the sake of disruption for the sake of disrupt , disruption for the sake of disrupt, working people are trying to get their job or trying to get to their job or get their kids dropped off at school, survive brutal of school, survive a brutal cost of living crisis in the uk. living in the crisis in the uk. there's a certain hierarchy that they are it's just they are doing. it's just performative. perform ative. it's not accomplishing . performative. it's not accomplishing . that's accomplishing anything. that's one of your founders. yeah >> and found funders. funders they come and go. but as i say, they come and go. but as i say, the public generally fund most of donations at the moment. of our donations at the moment. however, look at what however, let's just look at what happened netherlands happened in the netherlands recently, where ordinary recently, where people, ordinary people extinction rebellion people from extinction rebellion brought the a12 main road during the month of september and the police turned around and said, we can't deal with this government. you need to negotiate. as result, the negotiate. and as a result, the dutch government has to dutch government has voted to phase out oil and gas subsidies, which is massive news, and that's civil resistance in action. what action. and that's what can happen you get out on happen here. if you get out on the streets 12:00 trafalgar square day , please come square every day, please come and join us. >> james harvey , put your

>> okay. james harvey, put your your forward completely. your case forward completely. well very well done, mate. thank you very much. stuff. you. much. good stuff. thank you. okay, let's move on. meanwhile, there fears there are real fears that pro—palestinian may pro—palestinian protests may turn violent in the turn increasingly violent in the days ahead. it comes after a weekend of direct action that follows protests which follows other protests which targeted the offices of mps who voted against calls for a ceasefire in gaza. at the same time , negotiations to release time, negotiations to release some of the 240 hostages being held by hamas in gaza are set to be entering a critical phase . be entering a critical phase. it's thought now that up to 50 hostages could be released in return for a five day ceasefire well, for the latest on this, i'm joined in the studio by our security editor, mark white. mark, can we start with thomas hand, who's the father of emily, a98, believed to be nine now, who he originally thought his daughter was dead. he gave a press conference today at the israeli embassy in kensington in incredibly moving scenes. can you tell us what happened? >> yeah, not just him. quite a number of family members of

those being held by hamas in gaza gave that news conference just trying to keep alive the thought that these people are still being held and also the determination to try to get them back. now of course, it comes against the latest reports that suggest that there are late stage negotiations which might lead to 50 odd hostages being released. all i will say on this is we've been here multiple times before with reports that we're very close to groups of hostages being released since the 7th of october, since the attacks, only for hostages have been released to americans in the days after for and then to israelis for a week or so after that. and that's it. apart from one idf female soldier who was rescued by her colleagues , and rescued by her colleagues, and this is what they said , some of

this is what they said, some of the families at that news conference just talking about all of these false dawns in hopes that there could be a breakthrough. and family members released only to be dashed. this is what they told the news conference. >> we story you bring with another deal here for releasing hostages and another deal there. 50 here, 80 there, 15, 12. there are lots of numbers everywhere . are lots of numbers everywhere. all this published thing is disturbing. our stomachs. again if you will, have families and kids , just imagine one day one kids, just imagine one day one of them's gone . of them's gone. >> just gone . you don't know >> just gone. you don't know where she is. you don't know you don't know what suffering she's going , whether she's been fed going, whether she's been fed watered. but not only that, just the sheer terror of a nine year old girl . all.

the sheer terror of a nine year old girl . all . down in those old girl. all. down in those dark tunnels . never seen the dark tunnels. never seen the light of day . light of day. >> it's every parent's worst nightmare. and he talks about the prospect of his nine year old being held in those tunnels now. and that's where the next stage of this operation is moving towards, isn't it, mark, if these hostages are in those tunnels, how are they going to get them of there? get them out of there? >> to be extremely >> it's going to be extremely difficult , as you know, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not , as you know, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not just , as you know, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not just a, as you know, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not just a fewyou know, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not just a few miles|ow, >> it's going to be extremely difficul'not just a few miles of ', they're not just a few miles of tunnels. there are hundreds of miles tunnels that stretch miles of tunnels that stretch from the north right down to the south of the gaza strip , right south of the gaza strip, right across into egypt , into the across into egypt, into the sinai peninsula as well. so some real concerns about how an earth effectively you get into these tunnels and try to safeguard the release of the hostages. interestingly there's been a lot of condemnation of what the israeli military are doing in hospitals across gaza, hospitals, which the israeli military are convinced have been

used as bases for hamas militants, hamas terrorists over the years. and al—shifa hospital is the latest where there is now this operation underway say they have release video that shows there down in the tunnel complexes in the grounds of this hospital. now, they took their drones that went into the tunnel . about 20, 30m into that tunnel , came across what was a blast doon , came across what was a blast door. they didn't go any further for fear of booby traps , but for fear of booby traps, but they will have to get down and into it. and they're continuing to look for more tunnel systems under beneath what is a vast hospital complex. martin they've also released images from the hotel's own security system , hotel's own security system, cameras that show what the idf claim are hostages . on the 7th claim are hostages. on the 7th of october, the day of those deadly attacks being brought to the al—shifa hospital with a

view to being put down into the tunnel system there. and these pictures that we can show you now, you see one man, if you're listening on radio, it's one man being bundled into the hospital entrance there. and then it's taken from another angle as they go through a door, another man on a stretcher who is injured. and that same person you saw being bundled also to the left of frame frame there being taken in surround by a group of men. one of them with an assault rifle, or at least a couple of them with an assault rifle in full view of medical staff wearing their scrubs there, which really, as far as the idf is concerned, illustrates the point they've been making, that medical staff at that hospital are fully aware that hamas have been operating in and around the hospital for a long time. but they, of course, say very publicly they have no knowledge of this terrorist group in and around their hospital. >> mark, thank you for that

latest update. it's going to be a brutal inch inch next stage a brutal inch by inch next stage of this. okay well, still to come, could there be an amnesty for migrants who come to the uk illegally is reported that the government is considering offering work visas for thousands of them to stay in britain. you couldn't make it up. i'm martin daubney on gb news. and this is britain's news

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i >> welcome back. it's 325. you're watching or listening to me? martin daubney on gb news. now, as the government's rwanda plan seems stuck in deadlock once again, it seems some in government are willing to cave in. yes, it's being reported that the government could issue thousands of work visas to clear the backlog or, as some others call it, an amnesty for those who have crossed the channel illegally. now this is something that i think will rightly get a lot of shekels raised out there . lot of shekels raised out there. what it comes down to is this they can't issue enough visas to get them out. they can't deport them because, of course, the supreme court has ruled the rwanda plan illegal. plan b, as rishi calls it, will probably be hamstrung. and exactly the same way as plan a, and that is it will face legal challenge. first of all, in the house of lords. kate hoey on this show last week told me right here in the studio that the house of lords is a

house of remainers, and they'll be doing all they can to derail rwanda next. it will go once again to the high court and then the supreme court. and don't rule out strasbourg poking their nose in. and then it'll be the european court of human rights. meanwhile, they can't seem to agree within central government at all. james cleverly, apparently is not so keen on leaving the echr and that man, david cameron . well, i think we david cameron. well, i think we know where he stands on this. he he cried off the day after losing the brexit referendum and now he's back. there's a great feeling that a remainer blob is taking over once again. and central to this is the failed rwanda plan. now, we talked. we're going to be joined now to talk about this is dr. mike jones, executive editor and editor of migration watch. good afternoon to you. thanks for joining us, dr. jones, to things we're going to talk about. first, we're going to talk about rwanda and then we're looking ahead the net migration ahead to the net migration figures this week. figures due later this week. but first, can about this

first, can we talk about this mass amnesty of illegals? can you talk us through what's happening this time ? happening this time? >> well, obviously , any proposed >> well, obviously, any proposed amnesty is going to be completely counterproductive to the aims of the government . it's the aims of the government. it's going to completely conflict with the views of the british public. it's going to contradict the conservative party's manifesto. it will increase the pull factor . it will manifesto. it will increase the pull factor. it will send a very negative signal in terms of the rule of law. and the administration of the immigration system . simply this immigration system. simply this can't do . can't do. >> and, mike, we saw last week 100,000 work visas being granted because asylum seeker claims couldn't be processed quick enough. and here we go again, yet more. a lot of these people could have come to the country illegally . and because they illegally. and because they can't be processed out, they're being right to work. being given the right to work. this is a people smugglers charter, it .

charter, isn't it. >> essentially, yes . it's >> essentially, yes. it's creating perverse incentives . creating perverse incentives. and as the immigration minister crack on apologies , essentially, crack on apologies, essentially, you have issues in the home office to do with productivity. the processing of asylum claims. there's a lack of capacity there . but ultimately, this all comes down to the legal architecture that exists in the uk and the fact that there are laws both transnational and domestic, that prevents governments from detaining and deporting people, and this is imposing a huge burden on the taxpayer and it's imposing a huge burden on infrastructure and social cohesion . cohesion. >> okay, mike, we're expecting the net migration figures later this week. last last year it was

net 606,000. that's a couple of birmingham's just chucked into britain. are we expecting less this time? i've heard in the region of about 500,000. is your intel along those lines. >> my gut instinct is that net migration figures will come down slightly simply because the number of people coming on the is go down, the number of ukraine ians migrating from ukraine ians migrating from ukraine to the uk will decrease . ukraine to the uk will decrease. but there are other visas that will show an increase in numbers . so i'm expecting the overall figures to come down, but not by a huge amount . a huge amount. >> and mike, there's one thing they've put in place they say will stop this and that is the skilled worker visa. they're going to put the salary cap up from 26,000 to 30,000. do you think they will have any impact whatsoever ?

whatsoever? >> it'll have some impact on the margins. but but ultimately , you margins. but but ultimately, you need to cap the skilled worker visa rather than sort of tinkering about with with the criteria for the points based system. you need an upper number there that the home office is going to abide to. but ultimately, we've seen the skilled worker visa based , the skilled worker visa based, the skilled worker visa based, the skill qualifications for that has been reduced and it's being used as a trojan horse for low and medium skilled workers . and and medium skilled workers. and that's not what it was designed for . for. >> yeah, i'll agree with that. okay. thank you, doctor. mike jones, director of jones, executive director of migration watch. thanks for joining us on the show. well, there's lots more yet to come between we'll be between now and 4 pm. we'll be heanng between now and 4 pm. we'll be hearing chancellor hearing from the chancellor jeremy he's due to jeremy hunt, soon. he's due to give speech britain's top give a speech to britain's top bosses. give a speech to britain's top bosses . will he reveal anything bosses. will he reveal anything about his planned tax break, which you're due this week?

that's all coming up. but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. >> it's 331. good afternoon , >> it's 331. good afternoon, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom . the prime minister has newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably . rishi sunak and sustainably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy. now inflation has been . speaking ahead of been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's , he wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt, building sustainable energy , building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. the government's former chief scientific adviser is heavily criticised, boris johnson telling the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was an effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus. sir patrick vallance also described the scale of test and trace facilities as inadequate kit and said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it should have been. or as reliable as it should have been . four men have been been. four men have been convicted of murdering ashley

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countdown to the next general election. and ahead of wednesday's autumn statement. we might be getting a sniff of a tax cut . well, liam halligan our tax cut. well, liam halligan our economics and business editor joins me now with on the money so, liam, we're going to cut over to jeremy hunt soon on much talk about a tax cut. they've got to do it even if they don't do it. i mean, they're already facing defeat down the barrel of a gun if they don't give us a tax cut, they're brown bread, aren't they? >> dead for people that >> that's dead for people that aren't from certain parts of london rhyming slang london cockney rhyming slang there on national television. we need lot more of that, don't need a lot more of that, don't we, do. and look, the we, martin? we do. and look, the government in the last 24, 48, 72 hours, they've done what journalists call a complete reverse ferret. we've gone from the idea we couldn't possibly have tax cuts, old boy, because they'd be deeply irresponsible and drive inflation and they'd drive inflation through to now is the time for growth. now is the time for tax cuts . it's partly because the cuts. it's partly because the inflation number last week was

better than expected. we went from 6.7% inflation in september . to 4.6% in october. that's a big reduction. so the government's telling itself it can now do tax cuts, but they won't juice up the economy too much. it won't too be inflationary. so across the sunday papers there are all kinds of anonymous briefings, kite flying , as we call it. you kite flying, as we call it. you put something up in the air, see if it gets shot down. if it doesn't, say, that's a great doesn't, you say, that's a great idea. it does, say, oh, idea. if it does, you say, oh, we to do it we never intended to do it anyway. you know what these journalists like. we've journalists are like. we've all been weekend been there. so over the weekend there was lots of briefing going been there. so over the weekend thefromis lots of briefing going been there. so over the weekend thefrom peoplef briefing going been there. so over the weekend thefrom people iniriefing going been there. so over the weekend thefrom people in theing going been there. so over the weekend thefrom people in the darkoing been there. so over the weekend thefrom people in the dark that on from people in the dark that there cuts coming and there are tax cuts coming and maybe not business tax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich business tax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich is business tax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich is whatiness tax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich is what iess tax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich is what i was:ax there are tax cuts coming and maybwhich is what i was saying cuts, which is what i was saying to last week. if there to you last week. if there are tax cuts, be business tax cuts, there will be business things like the business tax cuts. get include extend cuts. we may get include extend ing, full expensing. what does that mean ? it means that earlier that mean? it means that earlier this year, jeremy hunt, chancellor introduced this idea that if a business invests in certain types of capital equipment, plant factories , equipment, plant factories, stuff and so on, it can offset

the expense of that investment against its corporation tax. happy days . against its corporation tax. happy days. but that's great if you're a big business. if you've got deep pockets, you can raise finance much if you're a finance. not so much if you're a small because you're small business because you're still paying a much higher rate of tax you were of corporation tax than you were this year. it went up this time last year. it went up from 19 to 25. we could see cuts to what we call business rates , to what we call business rates, another business tax. that's the kind of rental income , a tax on kind of rental income, a tax on the value of a retail premises or a business premises, whether you own it or rent it. businesses pay that whether they make any money or not. martin they say they pay that. whether or even taken any or not they've even taken any revenue, dead weight revenue, it's just a dead weight cost. but now, recent hours, cost. but now, in recent hours, even we're hearing from the prime minister that there may be some personal tax cuts. i don't think they're going to cut the headune think they're going to cut the headline rate of income tax. i think what they may do is something calling something i've been calling for a is unfreeze the a long time, is to unfreeze the personal thresholds . yes. so personal tax thresholds. yes. so the level at which you start paying the level at which you start paying the top rate of tax, the additional rate of tax, the

bafic additional rate of tax, the basic rate of tax, they've been frozen. now and they're to frozen. now and they're going to be unfil frozen. now and they're going to be until 2028 under be frozen until 2028 under current which means more current plans, which means more and more get dragged into and more people get dragged into higher brackets. you've now higher tax brackets. you've now got middle ranking teachers as middle ranking nurses , middle middle ranking nurses, middle ranking police officers paying the top rate of income tax. that was never meant to happen . and was never meant to happen. and something in particular i think should happen is we should raise the starting rate of tax, that starting rate of tax, martin, is £12,570. that means until you earn 12.5 grand a year, you don't pay any tax, which kind of makes sense because 12 grand a yearis makes sense because 12 grand a year is like a third of the average wage, right? it's not much money. that'd be a lot of part time job or maybe a lower paid job. that's 2 or days paid job. that's 2 or 3 days a week . but if paid job. that's 2 or 3 days a week. but if you take paid job. that's 2 or 3 days a week . but if you take people out week. but if you take people out of tax all the way up from 12.5 grand to 20 grand, you don't start tax until £20,000, start paying tax until £20,000, which is a much more kind of substantive wage . you then don't substantive wage. you then don't pay substantive wage. you then don't pay people who are earning less than 20 grand. those in—work benefits to top up their incomes, less admin, less hassle

and you make it easier to go back to work. there's you lose less when you go back to work because you get all the money because you get all the money because you're not paying tax up until grand. until 20 grand. >> now there's two that >> now there's two things that they've been saying , rishi they've both been saying, rishi and jeremy, that is it would and jeremy, and that is it would fuel if we do all of fuel inflation if we do all of this. and secondly, where's the money going come from? now, money going to come from? now, this what, £20 billion that this is what, £20 billion that jeremy hunt to have found jeremy hunt seems to have found down of sofa? is down the back of the sofa? is that a benefit s index that from a benefit s index unked that from a benefit s index linked freeze or something like that? of course , money. linked freeze or something like that? is of course , money. linked freeze or something like that? is it of course , money. linked freeze or something like that? is it going course , money. linked freeze or something like that? is it going t0|rse , money. linked freeze or something like that? is it going to comenoney. linked freeze or something like that? is it going to come from(. linked freeze or something like that? is it going to come from ? where is it going to come from? >> often think that the >> so i often think that the debate about fiscal policy and we do this so much in the uk, it's really disingenuous. it's not that he's found extra money, right? it's that certain forecasters have said he's not going to borrow as much as we thought he was going to borrow next year or or, you know, there may be a bit more growth next year and that should generate a bit more tax revenue. so this money kind of putin lviv money is all kind of putin lviv it's all pretend. it's all it

may happen or it may not happen . may happen or it may not happen. so money that we don't even know is money is is there, our money which is about borrowing owing less about us borrowing owing less than we thought we were going to borrow, but we're still going to borrow. suddenly that's money you , but it's still you can spend, but it's still money to borrow . and he money is going to borrow. and he hasn't got it yet. do you hasn't even got it yet. do you see what i mean? so we're a third degrees of separation here. really to here. it's all mad really to say, suddenly he's found all say, oh, suddenly he's found all this but this is how this money. but this is how politics works. so politics works. it's so ridiculous. a lot ridiculous. now you've got a lot of people on the right of the tory saying, see, you tory party saying, you see, you got you have to spend got money, you have to spend it, you have spend it on tax you have to spend it on tax cuts. like me would cuts. but someone like me would say, you do tax say, yeah, but if you do tax cuts quickly, cuts properly, quite quickly, they cost money. they don't actually cost money. they make money for the exchequer . if do they make money for the exchequer. if do tax they make money for the exchequer . if do tax cut exchequer. if you do a tax cut that generates growth, more spending and less unemployment, less benefit payments, if there's a tax break on investment or something that creates businesses, that will actually be not just fiscally neutral, it won't cost you money. it could be fiscally advantageous and it will make you money, but it always takes a little bit of time and in that

little bit of time and in that little bit of time, when the tax cut kicks in and has its what we call behavioural effect, the government's got to borrow right? is already right? and borrowing is already very, very high. that's the danger dangen >> still waiting to >> liam was still waiting to cut. hunt at the cut. jeremy hunt at the confederation british confederation of british industry, have confederation of british irgraphic have confederation of british irgraphic you have confederation of british irgraphic you could have confederation of british irgraphic you could show have confederation of british irgraphic you could show us. ve a graphic you could show us. >> let's do that. let's go >> sure, let's do that. let's go through the kind of menu of possible tax cuts that are knocking about at the moment in the aether, extend full expensing . i mentioned that , expensing. i mentioned that, martin, this is the ultimate kind of business tax break. full extended expensing means that companies can offset any investment they do in new factory equipment, in new technology against their corporation tax bill. so it's almost as if they're being paid to invest it and they're being paid the full expense of the investment. >> now seems common sense. >> now seems common sense. >> now seems common sense. >> this came in for three years earlier this year, but it's proving popular. it was meant to offset the fact that corporation tax was going up from 19 to 25. and there are calls and that the chancellor will be getting his ear bent the cbi to extend

ear bent at the cbi to extend full expensing to make it permanent semi permanent, permanent or semi permanent, certainly three years. certainly beyond three years. the trouble is, martin, small firms, they can't afford the finance up front to do the investment , right? so they investment, right? so they haven't got deep pockets. they just pay the higher corporation tax. the next one that we've got, apart from full expensing is cuts to inheritance tax. my paper , the daily telegraph, is paper, the daily telegraph, is campaign earning for this inheritance tax . it's 40% above inheritance tax. it's 40% above 325 grand. but you can add up the 325 grand if you're, you know , with your spouse or your know, with your spouse or your wife, your civil partner and so on.and wife, your civil partner and so on. and you get up to 500 grand if you're leaving a house, two kids or grandkids. if you're leaving a house, two kids or grandkids . so the kids or grandkids. so the threshold is basically a million for a married couple, which is a lot, which means the vast majority of households don't cut to pay inheritance tax. and i actually think it would be a mistake to cut inheritance tax when there's a cost of living crisis is basically crisis because it is basically don't don't attack too much, don't don't attack me too much, but it's broadly speaking, a more wealthy person's tax and

these are rather tough times. and the next sort of tax measure that we may actually see is raising the frozen tax thresholds. i spoke to you about this. the starting rate of tax , this. the starting rate of tax, the tax threshold around 20 grand. when you start paying the bafic grand. when you start paying the basic rate of income tax , the basic rate of income tax, the upper rate of tax, the additional rate of tax, they've been frozen for a while now. they're due to frozen until they're due to be frozen until 2028. bringing millions 2028. that's bringing millions more people into tax when before they're not paying tax . and it's they're not paying tax. and it's a stealth tax and it's raising billions of pounds a year, even though headline tax rates have stayed where they are. a lot of tory backbenchers absolutely hate those frozen tax thresholds. they view them as very unconcerned lviv. but perhaps ultimate threshold perhaps the ultimate threshold you could unfreeze is the personal tax allowance, what we call the starting rate of tax. martin that's 12.5 call the starting rate of tax. martin that's12.5. grand, 12,000 £570,570 a year. if you earn up to that money, you don't pay any earn up to that money, you don't pay any tax at all on the year. if you earn above that, you start paying tax . i say lots of

start paying tax. i say lots of other economists say from left and right, scrap that 20 grand. you don't pay any tax up to 20 grand. that means you don't need in—work benefits up to 20 grand. it's less hassle. and it also means there's more incentive to go work because you keep go back to work because you keep a of money. if you a lot more of your money. if you go to work at a lower go back to work at a lower income we know there income job. and we know there are many with huge are many, many with huge respect, income workers respect, lower income workers who back work who haven't gone back to work since covid they make who haven't gone back to work since money they make who haven't gone back to work since money benefits nake who haven't gone back to work since money benefits .ake who haven't gone back to work since money benefits . we more money from benefits. we need to we need to try and get rid of that benefits trap that discourages people from going back to work. >> okay, lynn, megan, thank you. always on the money. thank you very much. still waiting very much. we're still waiting for we crossing for jeremy hunt. are we crossing lines? jeremy hunt. are we lines? jeremy hunt. yeah. are we going he's not up going to move on? he's not up yet, we're to swiftly yet, so we're going to swiftly move on to somebody who you would definitely want to hear about. nigel about. gb news own nigel farage started his jungle journey last night. get night. as i'm a celebrity, get me out of here. returned to our screens. sophie screens. well, sophie reaper reports action reports on all of the action from night . from last night. >> it is back . returning for its

>> it is back. returning for its 23rd season. >> itv's i'm a celebrity. >> itv's i'm a celebrity. >> get me out of here is officially back on our screens as so nick geordie duo ant and dec have returned once again and as usual we're enjoying the celebrity suffering a little too much. >> let this be the easy bit. >> let this be the easy bit. >> last night's episode saw ten celebrities begin their journey down under with rumours swirling about two potential late arrivals . but who do the british arrivals. but who do the british pubuc arrivals. but who do the british public think will clinch the title of this year's jungle king or queen? >> i'm rooting forjosie gibson because i love watching her on this morning. i think she's really bubbly and a load of fun, and i think she'll be brilliant at the trials. sam thompson because i think he's absolutely hilarious . hilarious. >> frankie fossora is just an icon in it. >> danielle harold because of the performance that she's done in eastenders. the performance that she's done in eastenders . so i think she's in eastenders. so i think she's going to get a lot of support from people for that.

>> another roles because she's absolutely fantastic, like nigel farage he's a lunatic. farage because he's a lunatic. >> crazy. >> he's just crazy. >> he's just crazy. >> i just love him. he's he >> and i just love him. he's he hasn't a clue what he's hasn't got a clue what he's doing but doing here for the time, but he's character and he's a fantastic character and it's the jungle needs. it's what the jungle needs. >> year . >> this year. >> this year. >> one of our very own nigel farage, has already faced his first bushtucker trial . first bushtucker trial. >> oh, they're horrible, aren't they? >> well prepared for life in the jungle, he told gb news that he's ready to push his boundanes he's ready to push his boundaries and take a risk. >> i've lived on news numbers, information to go away from all of that for several weeks is one really big challenge to confront things that are obviously frightening but have to deal with them and come through them is a really good challenge. >> confident as he may be, though, the challenge is have only just begun . only just begun. >> and for nigel and the rest of his campmates, it's there's still a long way to go before one of them is crowned . this one of them is crowned. this year's winner, sophie reaper. gb

news cracking stuff is already causing a rumble in the jungle. >> well, ant and dec were ridiculing gb news viewers last night as keith's and linda's. we've got one of them now. not keith, philip hoy from keith, but it's philip hoy from hertfordshire. thanks for joining on the show. so you joining us on the show. so you must enjoying the fact that must be enjoying the fact that once is causing an once again nigel is causing an absolute stink down under. >> always pleased with >> i'm always pleased with nigel. causes a stink. >> um, let's be honest with you. when this all started, i thought this was really , really bad this was a really, really bad idea. this morning. idea. until this morning. >> and in fact, it was on gb news this morning when somebody said something which really struck chord . struck a chord. >> i thought nigel would look ridiculous, but he's doing it and he will go to a younger , and he will go to a younger, mean people like me who've known nigel respected nigel for many years. >> we've always been i've always been a supporter of him. >> but of course there's a lot of young people and hadn't appreciate that they had no idea who he is . who he is. >> so he's now going to reach a

much that much younger audience and that can only be a good thing. >> and we're just seeing pictures screen now , phillip, pictures on screen now, phillip, of sneak preview of tonight's of a sneak preview of tonight's bushtucker trial. there's nigel chowing down on udders and teats on a pizza and it didn't go down entirely well. but i think he's going to just get it down him crack on and wash it down with remainer tears. >> absolutely and that's what we want. >> and i keep wondering when he gets back from the jungle because of course, i believe he knows nothing about what's been going on. he knows nothing about cameron and all the rest of it. >> i'd love to know what his first reaction going to be. first reaction is going to be. >> do you think a few people have been saying actually there's political going have been saying actually thein s political going have been saying actually thein britainitical going have been saying actually thein britain .ical going have been saying actually thein britain . captain going have been saying actually thein britain . captain farage; on in britain. captain farage might be better back in blighty kind of direct sting operations from here. instead, he's down unden from here. instead, he's down under. do you still think phil, that this is the right thing for him to have done ? him to have done? >> i do now, as i say, until

this morning, if >> i do now, as i say, until this morning , if you'd >> i do now, as i say, until this morning, if you'd have asked me yesterday, i said no, no, completely wrong. >> but as of this morning, i can see the point behind it. nigel is a very clever guy and he's obviously worked out that this gives him a much, much bigger audience, one that wouldn't audience, one that he wouldn't normally appeal to. >> i was really surprised when somebody said, well, i've never heard nigel farage. heard of nigel farage. >> believe that. but hey >> i can't believe that. but hey , there go. um but , you know, there you go. um but no, i think he's right. he's he's down there for a few weeks. >> and when he gets back, the mess will still be swirling around . around. >> and maybe they'll see that he's salvation that we need . he's the salvation that we need. >> okay, philip, it's great. talk to you . i'm afraid we have talk to you. i'm afraid we have to leave it right there because now i think crossing to now i think we are crossing to jeremy hunt, the chancellor, live of british live at the confed of british industry. here is . industry. here he is. >> so thank you. thank you, bnan. >> so thank you. thank you, brian . and thank you so much, brian. and thank you so much, chancellor, for joining brian. and thank you so much, chancellor, forjoining us chancellor, for joining us today. it's really great to have you with us to talk about the uk

economy, particularly in this week ahead of the autumn statement , but very, very busy statement, but very, very busy week for you and of course following the pm's speech this morning. so i'll ask you a few questions before we turn to our audience . yes so luke, i can audience. yes so luke, i can imagine one of the best parts about your role is that you travel the world going to g7 summits, talking to other leaders around the world and in your experience, when you're talking to them and sort of almost making that pitch for a why invest in the uk, what do you sort of think is most important for how we attract business investment into the uk economy ? economy? >> well, first of all, good afternoon. rain >> good afternoon everyone, and it's a pleasure to be here and i've had my head down all weekend writing the autumn statement on wednesday, but it's not yet finalised, so there's still time for that last minute

idea that if you want to put it into my head, i'm sure you've got a few, but look , i feel got a few, but look, i feel a lot more positive about the uk economy than i did a year ago when i came in. and you know, the biggest reason is because we've managed to halve inflation. but, you know, 11.1% inflation, which was it was this time last year , that is, you time last year, that is, you know, terrifying high. and we had to do some very difficult things to get it back under control . but i hope now people control. but i hope now people can see we're making progress on that. can see we're making progress on that . i'll be can see we're making progress on that. i'll be focusing on growth, which is why it's been very useful to engage with you. we can start to shake off some of the defeatism and pessimism about the uk economy. so what do i say when i'm talking to people overseas about the uk ? well, i overseas about the uk? well, i say, what are the industries that are going to grow the fastest in the 21st century? i say those are the sectors that

the uk is the strongest . so the uk is the strongest. so i don't think many people appreciate just how successful our tech industry is becoming. the third largest in the world. last year , after the united last year, after the united states and china life science advanced manufacturing, clean energy , creative industries all energy, creative industries all areas of tremendous success on top of areas where we where we've been successful for many years, like financial services. and i think , you know, last year and i think, you know, last year i throw my mind back to that very challenging autumn statement . and i took the risk statement. and i took the risk of saying, look, i want us to be the world's next silicon valley. and i was expecting quite a lot of ridicule when i said that. but i think people understand what this country what we've got in this country that chance of doing that gives us a chance of doing that gives us a chance of doing thatis that gives us a chance of doing that is we've got outside america to the world's best universities and outside america, the world's best financial services . and that financial services. and that gives us something special. so i think we are very well poised as a country in the areas that we

would want to be strong in. and we've now got to go for it. absolute >> absolutely. and look, we're not short of ideas. you'll have already seen our 30 page autumn statement submission with packed full of ideas. i think from our members . but full of ideas. i think from our members. but maybe just just building on that a bit. what you just set out there in terms of that pitch for the uk economy. i think at the conservative party conference at business day , you conference at business day, you talk quite compellingly about the uk being a good place to start a business, but one of the challenges particularly is when we compare ourselves to the us is how do we ensure it is a great place to scale up businesses in every region of the uk? because as you say, we have , you know, we're really have, you know, we're really lucky in the uk to have world leading universities in every region of the uk , but we really region of the uk, but we really need to think about how we get that innovation ecosystem working in all regions and that

scale up. what would you see as as how we do that? >> well, i think if we want to be the world's next silicon valley, then we've got to scale up. compared to a decade ago, i think most people would say if you've got a good idea in a, you know , one of those growing know, one of those growing sectors , it's not difficult to sectors, it's not difficult to find up to 5 million to kind of get your business off the ground. that used not to be the case, but i think that has changed because of isis , vcts changed because of isis, vcts and so on. but if you're trying to get a business from 20 million to say, 500 million cap, it's still too hard and you're more likely to get investment from a canadian pension fund than a british pension fund . and than a british pension fund. and i do think that we've we've got the second biggest pension fund ecosystem in the world, but for various historic reasons is there are too many barriers that prevent them investing in some

of the biggest domestic opportunities. so the mansion house pension fund reforms are designed to address that. i will explain in the autumn statement how are we going to conclude? and that process ? but i also and that process? but i also think there are lots of other things that we can do in terms of removing supply side barriers to growth . but the exam question to growth. but the exam question is , you know, demis hassabis , is, you know, demis hassabis, the greatest british tech entrepreneur, you've never heard of an absolutely brilliant guy. what would it take to persuade the demis hassabis of the future not to sell out his deepmind to google, but actually to grow it into a multi billion pound company floated on the london stock market, able to access all the capital he needs. now, i think we can do that , but we've think we can do that, but we've got to do the work to get there. >> yeah, and look, i think it was good to see you know, a couple of weeks ago around the ai summit that uk seeking to try and lead some of the development of that regulation . in but look,

of that regulation. in but look, as we think back and i think we've talked about some of the areas where the uk can really lead the world, but we have to face into some of the challenges is so and obviously as a chief economist, once the chief economist, once the chief economist and never quite leaves you but product tivity growth in the uk is flatline and since 2008 and there's a danger we're stuck in this dismal decade for living standards in the uk. and i think one of the messages we've been trying to say as we look forward is we need next year not to be a lost opportunity party for growth here in the uk. opportunity party for growth here in the uk . so why do you here in the uk. so why do you think as a as a country and business community we haven't made more progress on on really driving product growth? >> well, here's a fascinating thing. i mean, you know, our productivity is 15% lower than germany's so broadly speaking,

it takes germans four days to make something. it takes us five days. we need to address that. but despite that handicap of a lower productivity, we've actually grown faster than germany since 2010. why is that ? germany since 2010. why is that? well, i think the reason is because as we outinnovate germany , they have higher germany, they have higher productivity, but we have our our innovation industries that have done incredibly well that is the period in which we built this huge technology industry that we didn't have before . so that we didn't have before. so the way i look at that is i say, well, if we could fix the productivity, we'd be absolutely unstoppable because we've got the as well . and why the innovation as well. and why do have that productivity do we have that productivity gap? well, not because gap? well, it's not because germans work harder than us. if anything, we work longer hours than them . it is because of than them. it is because of issues around skills where our universe , cities, sector is universe, cities, sector is stronger than germany's. but the 50% of school leavers who don't go to university. we, the germans, have a better system of

technical education and we need to learn from that. and part of thatis to learn from that. and part of that is what rishi sunak is talking terms of people talking about in terms of people doing english to 18 doing maths and english to 18 because we need improve our because we need to improve our bafic because we need to improve our basic skills . but part of that basic skills. but part of that is that we have less capital investment as a proportion of our gdp . germany, france and the our gdp. germany, france and the united states. between them, average about 2% more invested in gdp every year. so what you will see on wednesday without going into individual measures as a whole range of measures designed to unlock business investment and close that gap with countries like france, germany and the united states. and one of those i talked about yesterday , which is making it yesterday, which is making it easier for people to get planning approved, we're going to completely overhaul the planning system . we're going to planning system. we're going to say authorities have to say local authorities have to meet deadlines or they meet statutory deadlines or they give your money back give you guys your money back and then process the and then have to process the application free of charge. we've got to unlock access to the grids as well . so a lot of

the grids as well. so a lot of supply side measures to boost that investment . that investment. >> and i think it's great to hear business investment being front and centre of that. and obviously we're hoping to see full expensing made permanent as part of as setting out a more permanent landscape around that. but i think touching on that, the sort of energy transition and that move to a greener economy, when we look to some of what's happening around the world, we see in the us, biden and the ira and the inflation reduction act and obviously the eu have their green new deal. what do you think the uk really needs to do to make sure that we secure that green growth market? so something we think is really important at the cbi? >> well , first of all we should >> well, first of all we should recognise we've done really well in that sector. i mean over the last decade we built the third largest renewables sector in europe after germany and norway . europe after germany and norway.

we're by far europe's largest producer of offshore wind energy , and that's why we've identified clean energy as one of our five strategic industries that we absolutely know. we have to back. i mean, very simple reason we have to double the amount of electricity that we generate by 2050. so we're going to have to do a lot of work in this and we want this area. and we want to capitalise the economic capitalise on the economic opportunity . we don't believe opportunity. we don't believe the way to do this is to engage in a subsidy race with either the eu or the united states, because we actually think the market based mechanisms which i suppose are a form of subsidy, but there are market based form of subsidy like contract for difference. are less distorting and more effective and even after ira, we will, if you take all of those different ways of supporting clean energy industry, we're investing a greater proportion of our gdp in support for clean energy than the united states are. we do

recognise , however, the need for recognise, however, the need for targeted interventions and that's why we announced . the that's why we announced. the £960 million fund on friday, which is essential, designed to make sure that where there's a target intervention necessary in the sectors of the clean energy industry , where we've decided we industry, where we've decided we want to be a global leader, whether it's hydrogen or ccs or offshore wind, then we have the firepower to do that. but in the end, it is going to be about innovation, action and creativity and ingenuity and enterprise as much as support from the state that's going to make the difference to our success in these areas. well in a in a moment, i will open up to some of that ingenuity from business leaders in the in the room. >> but just a final question, if i may. obviously, it's the autumn statement week. i can't imagine how busy it is for you. just take us a little bit behind the scenes on on autumn statement day. what will be for

breakfast and also how do you think the business voice helps you manage some of the pressures you manage some of the pressures you must face in that sort of run up to fiscal events? >> so was that last question how can you help me manage the pressure? well i'll you know, i suppose just how the business voice, i think, can really, you know , well, alongside for me know, well, alongside for me it's always porridge for breakfast, breakfast of champions. >> but i appreciate other breakfasts are available. >> well, if you want the gory details, you know it will be porridge. banana. honey egg on toast . so that's the. that's the toast. so that's the. that's the little, little secret . but let little, little secret. but let me talk about the business voice . first of all, i have really valued the interactions that i've had with you and the cbi . i've had with you and the cbi. and indeed, many of the people in this room. and we're we're very grateful for that . this is very grateful for that. this is a moment when, having made progress on inflation, we want

to focus on the long term growth of the british economy. you are all business people. you understand hand that rome wasn't built in a day. we're not going to get there immediately. i won't be able to do every single thing on the list that you've asked me to do, but i hope you will look at wednesday's measures and apply to those measures and apply to those measures the same definite signs of success as you would apply to your own businesses . and that is your own businesses. and that is to say, what matters is not the headunes to say, what matters is not the headlines you grab on the next day, but are these the measures that are going to make a real difference in the next five years? and i think that we have to recognise if we're going to catch up with german levels of productivity , we if we're going productivity, we if we're going to back our scale ups so that they're like silicon valley and they're like silicon valley and they can access capital as

easily as that, if we're going to unlock the incredible potential that i really do believe we have of this is a 5 or 10 year project act. but for me, the inspiration , i always me, the inspiration, i always think the chancellor that inspired me the most is the person who sadly died. this yean person who sadly died. this year, lord lawson . but what year, lord lawson. but what nigel lawson did amongst many things was through big bang , he things was through big bang, he left this country with the city of london and that was it wasn't in his lifetime. of london and that was it wasn't in his lifetime . i'm sorry. it in his lifetime. i'm sorry. it wasn't while he was chancellor . wasn't while he was chancellor. but that legacy, the taxes generated by our financial services sector pays for half the cost of running the nhs. now, if we can do the right things on wednesday so that we unlock that potential for 5 or 10 years time, i think we can do something really amazing for the future of this country and that's what i want to do. >> excellent. thank you so much ,

>> excellent. thank you so much, chancellor. i will now open up to you. okay. >> you just heard there the chancellor , jeremy hunt, chancellor, jeremy hunt, speaking at the confederation of british industry. i'm still joined here in the studio by liam halligan gb news, economics edhon liam halligan gb news, economics editor. what do you make of that? a rather bizarre brand shout into what he was having for breakfast. i felt that felt a bit the tone didn't feel right. are struggling. right. people are struggling. people for a tax people are looking for a tax break. to know if any break. they want to know if any good news is coming down. the line. what your main line. what are your main takeaways jeremy hunt's speech? yeah, without to be >> yeah, without wishing to be chippy, the same thing jumped out at me. martin this is two extremely wealthy people. how do they life's like they understand what life's like ? like, you outside the ? like, you know, outside the m25 ? 5th ? like, you know, outside the m25 7 5th may, ? like, you know, outside the m25 ? 5th may, may, maybe not. it m25? 5th may, may, maybe not. it was all a bit chummy. the cbi , was all a bit chummy. the cbi, of course, is on life support. it may not survive. it's been, you know , it's been dealing with you know, it's been dealing with the huge sort sexual the huge sort of sexual misconduct scandal. the huge sort of sexual misconduct scandal . obviously, misconduct scandal. obviously, the people involved deny wrongdoing, but this was very much a kind of coming out for the cbi, having the chancellor there, the first time they've

managed to stage a proper event for many months . so what did the for many months. so what did the chancellor say? he said, i feel a lot more optimistic about the economy than this time last yeah economy than this time last year. well, i should so, year. well, i should hope so, martin, because this time last yeah martin, because this time last year, was 11.1% and year, inflation was 11.1% and now it's 4.6. but i do think there's a bit of a spring in jeremy hunt's step. i do think instinctively he's wanted to cut taxes. he now seems to have the clearance from number 10 to do that. that's partly because inflation is down. it came down to 4.6% during the year to october 6.7% during the year to september. so that's a big reduction. it's still not licked. the inflation target we should be at is 2, but it's partly because inflation is down. he feels he can now implement tax cuts which may juice up the economy without causing inflation. but another reason why they want to do tax cuts. jeremy hunt and prime minister rishi sunak, they are under enormous pressure from the right of their party. you know, dozens of tory backbenchers. they're looking at the opinion

polls starmer's 20, 25 points ahead. his labour party are saying you have to cut taxes now, you have to cut taxes now. other jeremy hunt other things that jeremy hunt just to rain just said there to rain newton—smith, the cbi, newton—smith, who runs the cbi, he says, i want to back our scale ups. what does that mean? he wants to get pension funds to invest more in burgeoning british businesses so they aren't funded by americans or foreign stock exchanges. they don't go abroad. they stay here and our best start ups become our best world class companies. maybe using money that's in pension funds as what we call venture capital. we want to match germany's level of productivity, he says. well, thatis productivity, he says. well, that is referring to full expensing. he wants businesses to invest it and he wants to make it tax efficient for them to invest. but finally, he said, we don't subsidies race. we don't want a subsidies race. he's talking about joe biden's what ira, the inflation what we call ira, the inflation reduction which is reduction act, which is basically massive splurge of basically a massive splurge of $400 billion worth of subsidies to the green industry. the renewable energy lobby. they have very, very powerful oil lobbyists there on capitol hill .

lobbyists there on capitol hill. we're not going to do that on that scale . we can't compete that scale. we can't compete with subsidies like that here in the but we are going to have the uk, but we are going to have what's advanced what's called the advanced manufacture plan, a kind mini manufacture plan, a kind of mini version of america's inflation reduction act, a mini pot for subsidising industry. that's something that business secretary badenoch has been working on. she is very keen to claim credit for it over the weekend, so they're the sort of big three aspects. i think, of this autumn statement. there will be tax cuts, mainly business, but some personal as well. there will full well. i think there will be full expensing extension to make it easier businesses invest easier for businesses to invest and then there will be that advanced plan. but and then there will be that advangoing plan. but and then there will be that advangoing to plan. but and then there will be that advangoing to learn plan. but and then there will be that advangoing to learn more lan. but we're going to learn more between now and lunchtime wednesday when the statement actually happens . actually happens. >> liam halligan on the money, as thank very much. >> liam halligan on the money, as we're|ank very much. >> liam halligan on the money, as we're crossing very much. >> liam halligan on the money, as we're crossing tory much. >> liam halligan on the money, as we're crossing to ouriuch. now we're crossing to our political editor, christopher hope now for political hope now for the political reaction to that. chris. so, jeremy saying a lot there. we just talk with liam about the fact that really this comes down to this. if the tories don't give us a tax cut, they're toast

i >> -- >> that's lam >> that's right. jeremy hunt they're appealing for some patience from business there. he said, give me five years to unlock the growth and i'm not sure they got five years. this government, they've got get government, they've got to get something next something over the line by next year's general election. can't year's general election. i can't do want, he said year's general election. i can't dothem want, he said year's general election. i can't dothem . want, he said year's general election. i can't dothem . but want, he said year's general election. i can't dothem . but i want, he said year's general election. i can't dothem . but i hope|nt, he said year's general election. i can't dothem . but i hope that|e said year's general election. i can't dothem . but i hope that youild year's general election. i can't dothem . but i hope that you can to them. but i hope that you can give chance . if you were give me a chance. if you were doing it in your business, you'd understand that. and now earlier today, the prime today, we had the prime minister, giving minister, rishi sunak, giving a speech which speech in north london in which he contrasted the he said he contrasted the business hunt business experience of mr hunt and his own experience as the prime experience as a prime minister experience as a city city investor, trader , city city investor, trader, hedge fund or whatever you describe it against what labour's labour's lack of experience, experience on the front bench and they're front bench and that's they're trying that it's going trying to show that it's going well. inflation has halved well. we inflation has halved this year, but nowhere near the 2% target. as liam says there, that the government has set itself with the bank of england, but don't wreck it, don't risk it with labour. there is the clear political message , but the clear political message, but the line had earlier from the pm. line we had earlier from the pm. mr sunak, want to cut tax.

mr sunak, i want to cut tax. i believe in cutting taxes. well, you know, we can believe in father christmas, but it doesn't make get with it make it true. so get on with it is most i think people on is what most i think people on the say to uh, rishi the right would say to uh, rishi sunak got this autumn sunak has got this autumn statement monday. we statement on monday. we understand measures understand that all the measures are now in as of are now locked in as of yesterday. much headroom has yesterday. how much headroom has got to spend? well, it could be low billions according to the ifs. be tens of ifs. it could be tens of billions, according to another. think wait see. think tank. we'll wait and see. but think at almost a time for but i think at almost a time for talking has gone certainly with the small boats last week and now with tax the tory now with tax cuts. the tory right want to see more from this prime minister more from this government things that government to do things that will back that 20 poll will help pull back that 20 poll point lead for the labour point poll lead for the labour party. and think wednesday party. and i think wednesday could show some trying to do that. >> okay, chris, that's tax. that's jeremy hunt , another that's jeremy hunt, another story that's grabbing the headunes story that's grabbing the headlines today, this rumours of a cabinet split over rwanda. what's the latest on that one? >> yeah, well, that's because not surprising . there was some not surprising. there was some concern in cabinet about what the government plans to do next.

they've lost that supreme court unilaterally. , this unilaterally. last week, this week, on thursday. i think we'll be details of this be seeing details of this treaty. the government is going to try and sign up for the memorandum of understanding with rwanda. our rwanda. that should reassure our judges that anyone sent from the uk who arrives by small boats to rwanda is not then sent onwards to the country they came from because of course they have fled their . so because of course they have fled their. so that's that's what because of course they have fled their . so that's that's what the their. so that's that's what the treaty should show treaty should should show further next week we're further to that next week we're expecting some form of law from the government to show how they're going to try and get around this with the this the ruling last week from the supreme court to try and show that they can maybe disapply human rights in the cases of people who arrive by small boats, they there's viewed here as a full fat approach that would be almost leaving the echr or a semi—skimmed version disapplying the rules in some cases. but in the cabinet, there's concern about that. alex chalk, the justice secretary, is said to be concerned. and vicky

atkins, the attorney general , atkins, the attorney general, even jeremy even forgive me , even jeremy even forgive me, james cleverly, the new home secretary he's concerned. and that's where split is. so that's where the split is. so there's no question that mr sunakis there's no question that mr sunak is cross about it. as we spoke about last week, didn't we? i bet him a pint of beer or try to that it wouldn't happen. he gets the anger, martin but he's try and get round he's got to try and get round his cabinet and deliver it his own cabinet and deliver it and control again, and show this control again, something government and show this control again, some about. government and show this control again, some about. the government and show this control again, some about. the time nment and show this control again, some about. the time forent talks about. but the time for action . action is now. >> hope, thank you >> okay, chris hope, thank you for that update from westminster. your beer westminster. i think your beer is safe. chris okay. moving on now, our top story this hour, a number of just stop oil protesters have been arrested as they took to the streets of central london. some were handcuffed and put into police vans held a slow march vans as they held a slow march in the the in the capital. the environmental group is vowing to march day from this point march every day from this point until its wins, whatever that means. the campaign will last seven days until november the 26th, demanding that the government stop all new licenses for oil and gas contracts. well, we can cross now and speak again

with gb news reporter ray addison, who's been following events today. so, ray, finally it seems the police got tough with just stop oil, no more tea and sympathy, but a bit of action. >> yeah, definitely very robust policing this afternoon. martin from the met. police and police officers here are patrolling around parliament square where i'm stood now have told me they've actually beefed up the number of police officers that are around and parliament just in case there are any stragglers , activists from just stop oil that they didn't round up earlier on and they start to do any further protest . i have to any further protest. i have to say, absolutely no sign of that at the moment, although we have been checking whenever we hear those police sirens to see what's going on. of course, we do that 50 activists do know that 50 activists were arrested as they tried to march down whitehall by police. it was section seven of the public order act interfering with road transport infrastructure . so transport infrastructure. so they're complaining, just stop oil that they were arrested

after only two minutes of marching . and they're saying, is marching. and they're saying, is this what our democracy has become ? of course, you know, become? of course, you know, they do risk if they face charges, if they any of those activists do get charged. they do then risk the chance of imprisonment. but that, of course , viewers might say is course, viewers might say is a risk that you take if you choose to use that form of protest . it to use that form of protest. it started at trafalgar square , was started at trafalgar square, was the first of seven days of action. so we've got six more to come and pretty small numbers, 50 activists or so, only 15 arrests we could see larger numbers as the week continues of course, we saw a bit of a circus there as well. we had a youtuber who decided to kind of follow the group around and take the mickey and they ended up on quite few just oils , quite a few of just stop oils, actual social media videos as well. guy had a ghetto well. another guy had a ghetto blaster in a shopping trolley with nations flag, and with a united nations flag, and that was pumping out the that was pumping out heal the world by michael jackson. everything pretty much going everything was pretty much going on protest . but tomorrow on at this protest. but tomorrow we know that we have the

president of south korea in town. he's coming to meet king charles and then on wednesday, we've got budget day . so plenty we've got budget day. so plenty of opportunity is there for just stop oil to actually cause some really major disruption if they time it correctly . of course, time it correctly. of course, the met police, by the looks of today's actions at least, will be on hand to try and stop them. >> and ray edison no doubt, though he beefing that security up to make sure that the south korean president isn't disrupted . just great. they didn't do this sooner to stop londoners and those trying to get work, to work being disrupted . and do you work being disrupted. and do you think a part of this, ray ray, part of this ray , is the fact part of this ray, is the fact that we saw in the last protest at waterloo bridge, protesters blocking the route, blocking an ambulance of course, ambulance and, of course, saint thomas's hospital just over the ambulance and, of course, saint thorthere, -iospital just over the ambulance and, of course, saint thorthere, oneital just over the ambulance and, of course, saint thorthere, one of. just over the ambulance and, of course, saint thorthere, one of london's' the way there, one of london's biggest hospitals , 6000 children biggest hospitals, 6000 children giving birth every year there. the public sympathy because of the risk of life has absolutely evaporated, hasn't it ? just stop

oil? >> a very clear they say that their policy is to move out of their policy is to move out of the way immediately for ambulances. and i have to say that i have seen them move out of the way of an ambulance. however, that ambulance was still held up . it was still still held up. it was still delayed. i saw that with my own eyes.i delayed. i saw that with my own eyes. i saw them as soon as they realised it was their move out of the way of it. however if you're in a life and death emergency situation and you're in the back of an ambulance every single second could count and therefore , although and therefore, although potentially you might argue it's laudable that they will move out of the way as best they can, they've still caused that risk to whoever is in the back of that ambulance receiving that emergency care. that could be, you know, man , woman, child or, you know, man, woman, child or, you know, man, woman, child or, you , a relative of somebody you know, a relative of somebody in the protest who knows somebody is in there. they're in an emergency situation. and therefore, arguably not a lot of sympathy and understandable, not a lot of sympathy from members

of the public when they start doing that kind of action. however, most of the time, of course, it is just members of the public that are being held up. can get very up. however, they can get very angry as well, out of their angry as well, get out of their vehicles and remonstrate with just stop oil activists. we didn't see that today. however because the met police were so quick to get in there and make those arrests. okay ray allison, thanks for that update. >> long last, it seems the police are finally just stopping. just stop oil. well, we'll have lots more on that story at 5:00. and there's plenty of coverage on our website, gb news dot com. and you've helped to make that the fastest growing national news website in the country. so thanks to all of you . now, thanks to all of you. now, coming there are real fears coming up, there are real fears that pro—palestinian protests may turn increasingly violent in the days ahead. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. welcome back. >> 4:25. i'm martin daubney. now some breaking news to bring you . some breaking news to bring you. tel aviv has come under a huge hamas rocket attack this afternoon . more than 100 afternoon. more than 100 separate alerts sounded right across the city, stretching as far south as ashdod . the latest far south as ashdod. the latest i'm joined now in the studio by our security editor, mark weiss . our security editor, mark weiss. mark, what's the latest on this on breaking story? on this breaking story? >> well, seems that this is >> well, it seems that this is the biggest rocket attack aimed at tel aviv since those terrorist attacks on the 7th of

october. we've got an image that we can show our television viewers, which is taken from the app viewers, which is taken from the app that goes that many israelis have, that app there just gives you an indication that these are all separate alerts right across tel aviv from the north to the south into the west of tel aviv of east of tel aviv , i should of east of tel aviv, i should say. and as far south as the city of ashdod . this is just in city of ashdod. this is just in the last ten minutes. so sirens sounding right across tel aviv as people run for the shelters. the iron dome missile defence system sprung into action. we don't know as yet whether any of these rockets got through, but a very significant number. and what this shows , martin, is that what this shows, martin, is that all these weeks on more than a month after these attacks and after israel has gone to in gaza in a very significant way, bombing from the air and now a

ground operation in hamas still has clearly a very serious capability there to pop up and to launch these attacks on tel aviv . aviv. >> and a second breaking story, you have, mark, we saw footage earlier of the hamas being based in the al—shifa hospital. you've got new line on that. yes. >> well , a lot of concern about >> well, a lot of concern about the israeli operation into the al—shifa hospital, gaza's largest hospital, claiming that the idf have no right to be there. and this is an infringement of international laws and international norms , as laws and international norms, as but israel has claimed throughout it that the reason they've gone to that hospital is because hamas terrorists and other terrorists have been using that hospital as a base of operations. well we've been told that israel have been interrogating 300 hamas terrorists that have been arrested , detained by them in arrested, detained by them in recent days, and some of those

hamas operatives have told them, yes, indeed , khaled, hamas and yes, indeed, khaled, hamas and islamic jihad, the other terrorist group , were based islamic jihad, the other terrorist group, were based in the al—shifa hospital. at least 100, often dressed in medical geah 100, often dressed in medical gear, to try to blend in. this is what one of those terror prisoners told the israeli interrogators . interrogators. >> i saw a lot of them, about 80 or 90, 100. >> it reached 100 people whose people? >> the terrorists , hamas >> the terrorists, hamas terrorists , hamas and islamic terrorists, hamas and islamic jihad in the hospital in the shifa hospital, in the heart of the shifa hospital, shifa not the shifa hospital, shifa not the al—quds, shifa , they were the al—quds, shifa, they were dressed as nursing staff, but they were not nurses or doctors or hamas operatives dressed as medical staff in to order blend in within the hospital wards . in within the hospital wards. >> even in the intensive care unit . unit. >> and this is quite a revelation because one of the most contentious lines throughout this entire conflict ,

throughout this entire conflict, hamas using human shields , hamas hamas using human shields, hamas using hospitals to shield themselves. and now the revelation there appears to be they were actually dressing as doctors , nurses, hospital doctors, nurses, hospital operatives to give them the direct cover of pretending to work in the hospital. but really, they're terrorists. this is an astonishing breakthrough. >> another actually >> yeah, another video actually showing what the israeli defence forces say are hamas terrorists dragging hostage bodies into al—shifa on the 7th of october. after these attacks in full view of medics, they're wearing their scrubs. this is one of the hostages being manhandled into the front door of this huge hospital complex . another angle. hospital complex. another angle. then you see another of the hostages. according to the israelis on this stretcher there. and you see the medical staff in their scrubs is clearly seeing hamas terrorists there with their automatic weapons as

these people are being dragged down the corridor and this, of course, of great concern to the families of the people that are still being held, believed to be in the tunnel complexes underneath al—shifa and elsewhere here in the gaza strip. and we were hearing from some of those families today who've been reacting to this news. again, coming from hamas. officials suggest saying that there might be the release of up to 50 hostages in the coming days. they say they've seen it all before for multiple false dawns . and all it does is really dawns. and all it does is really just pile on the agony and the heartache for them. this is what they said a little earlier. we story you bring with another deal here for releasing hostages and another deal there are 50 here, 80. >> there are 15, 12. there are lots of numbers everywhere . all lots of numbers everywhere. all this publishing is stabbing our

stomachs again , if you will, stomachs again, if you will, have families and kids just imagine one day, one of them's gone. >> just gone . you don't know >> just gone. you don't know where she is. you don't know you don't know what suffering she's going, whether she's been fed , going, whether she's been fed, watered. but not only that , just watered. but not only that, just the sheer terror of a nine year old girl . down the sheer terror of a nine year old girl. down in those dark tunnels . never seen the light of tunnels. never seen the light of day . day. >> it's absolutely heartbreaking to listen to the testimony of the families there. and we're told that there are at least 240 hostages. the israelis actually think it's more than that, but they haven't been able to 100% confirm that some of the people who are missing are actually being held as hostages . and the being held as hostages. and the really distressing thing for the families to wrap their head around is that there are hundreds of miles of these

tunnel systems where their families could be is going to be a very, very difficult job for the israeli military to get in there and to rescue them . there and to rescue them. >> mark white, thank you for that dramatic update. okay. there's still lots more to come between now and 5:00, including nigel farage, of course, is down undeh nigel farage, of course, is down under. we'll be looking ahead to tonight's bushtucker trial in which he has a stomach churning challenge . but first, here's challenge. but first, here's your latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . aaron armstrong. >> good afternoon. it's 432 here in the gb newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy now that inflation has been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt, building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. the

government's former chief scientific adviser has heavily criticised boris johnson, telling the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was an effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus. sir patrick vallance described the former prime minister as weak and indecisive in his daily diary entries, adding he was frequently bamboozled by the science. sir patrick also said the former health secretary matt hancock, had a habit of saying things that weren't true . for men have that weren't true. for men have been convicted of murdering ashley dale , who was shot with a ashley dale, who was shot with a machine gun in liverpool last yeah machine gun in liverpool last year. the 28 year old was killed when james witham forced open the door of her home and opened fire. sean dyche and niall barry were also found guilty after the jury were also found guilty after the jury heard they'd organised, used and encouraged the killing following a fight with the victim's boyfriend at glastonbury . while joseph pierce glastonbury. while joseph pierce was identified as a fellow foot soldier. they'll be sentenced on wednesday . 15. just stop oil wednesday. 15. just stop oil activists have been arrested following a slow march through

central london. the group says it's stepping up its demonstrations demanding an end to new gas and oil licences. dozens of protesters walked from trafalgar square to whitehall on what they warned was the first of seven days of action. the met police says the area was cleared quickly . we'll be back with more quickly. we'll be back with more in just under half an hour's time or you can get more right now on our website, gbnews.com . now on our website, gbnews.com. >> okay. now shadow business secretary jonathan reynolds says the uk has hit the highest tax burden in 70 years because of low growth . but chancellor low growth. but chancellor jeremy hunt says wednesday's autumn statement will go for growth whilst also addressing business leaders and senior politicians at the confederation of british industry conference earlier on. well, i'm joined again now by liam halligan, our

economics and business editor joins me with on the money no sting , joins me with on the money no sting, right. so joins me with on the money no sting , right. so jeremy hunt, he sting, right. so jeremy hunt, he laid out his vision for growth, but he hasn't been specific yet about where those cuts are going to be. but you said he's got spnng to be. but you said he's got spring in his step. >> he has got a spring in his step because he seems to have got clearance from number 10 that he can finally do some tax cuts.i that he can finally do some tax cuts. i think instinctively, jeremy hunt is a tax cutter. a lot of people on the right of the conservative party will scoff at that because he has overseen a big increase in taxation in, you know, the tax burden in the uk is currently at a 70 year high. that's the share of our national income that's accounted for by tax. it's approaching 38, 39. but when he wanted to be tory leader, when he was campaigning, jeremy hunt said that he wanted to cut the rate of corporation tax from 19% to 15. all the way down to 12.5, which is where it is in the repubuc which is where it is in the republic of ireland. so he has

got a spring in his step now because number 10, whether it's because number 10, whether it's because inflation is down, inflation obviously came down sharp early in the month, in the year to october, down to 4.6% from 6.7% the month before , from 6.7% the month before, dunng from 6.7% the month before, during the year to september. whether it's because of that, that number 10 is saying, oh, we can now afford to do tax cuts because they won't juice up the economy so much that it causes more inflation or as i suspect, panic because the right of the conservative party is really angry that suella braverman was removed as party leader. there's talk about letters of no confidence going in against rishi sunak from some of his own backbenchers . the opinion polls backbenchers. the opinion polls aren't making any better reading for the tories. 2025 points behind labour on some measures. so i think it's probably using the fact that inflation has come down to justify what we call in journalism a reverse ferret . journalism a reverse ferret. changing your mind at short notice. but it's not a panic

really. so i do think there will be both business and personal tax cuts in this autumn statement, or at least signals on wednesday that they're coming. i've got a graphic for us with some more of that detail on. >> sure. >> sure. >> let's have a look at some of the possibilities of the tax cuts that jeremy hunt could actually go for. the first is if we can just get the graphic up. the first is extending full expensing, full expense thing happened. it began in april this yeah happened. it began in april this year. it allows companies to offset all their approved investments in factory equipment, new technology against their corporation tax bill. great for big businesses. they got deep pockets. they can raise money for investment. they've often got a lot of cash on their balance sheets. small businesses, be able businesses, they won't be able to of advantage of to take much of advantage of that. just end up paying to take much of advantage of thathigher just end up paying to take much of advantage of thathigher ratest end up paying to take much of advantage of thathigher rates ofnd up paying to take much of advantage of thathigher rates of corporationg the higher rates of corporation tax, went from 19 to 25. tax, which went from 19 to 25. a lot of small and medium sized enterprises. what's next? score on the door? what's the next thing that jeremy hunt could do? well he could. if we can change

the graphic now, he could cut inheritance tax. that's something that my paper, the sunday telegraph , has been sunday telegraph, has been campaigning for. i would caution against that because it's seen as a noise a lot of people , but as a noise a lot of people, but very few households actually pay it. the allowances are bigger than people really understand. if you add up a married couple's allowance and you're leaving a family home, the allowance collectively is £1 million, which means most households aren't troubled by corporation tax, even though it does worry them. it's seen as a kind of wealthy person's tax. this is not time be doing things not a time to be doing things for people. more for wealthy people. it's more a time to doing things for the time to be doing things for the just managing classes. just about managing classes. people who are struggling with this cost living crisis . and this cost of living crisis. and that's it's also being that's why it's also being floated hunt may floated that jeremy hunt may unfreeze personal tax allowances. these are the stealthy changes where tax allowances, the amount of money after which you pay income tax, higher rate of income tax , basic higher rate of income tax, basic rate of income tax, they're frozen . and as inflation and frozen. and as inflation and wages go up ,

frozen. and as inflation and wages go up, more and more people are dragged into higher tax brackets and the ultimate tax brackets and the ultimate tax threshold that you could unfreeze is the basic rate is the starting rate of tax. the personal tax allowance. i've personally been arguing for this in my columns. personally been arguing for this in my columns . you start paying in my columns. you start paying income martin after income tax. martin after £12,570. now, that's been frozen that threshold. so more and more people, as wages go up are being dragged into that tax bracket, including some people getting the basic state pension. that's going to happen over the next year months. by way , year to 18 months. by the way, because that allowance is frozen under current plans 2028. under current plans until 2028. thatis under current plans until 2028. that is the ultimate stealth tax . so i am saying a lot of cross—party economists are saying let's just raise that starting rate of personal tax allowance to 20 grand. so unless you earn 20 grand, which is still well below the average wage, you don't pay any tax at all because between 12.5 grand and 20 grand, a lot of people will paying tax and then will be paying tax and then getting some of it back in in—work benefits, a lot of hassle. the incentive structure isn't there. people don't want

to back to work because to go back to work because they'll lose a lot of their headune they'll lose a lot of their headline money. and we know headline money. and yet we know we've of vacancies. we we've got lots of vacancies. we know we've got lots people know we've got lots of people sitting haven't been sitting at home who haven't been back since lockdown. back to work since lockdown. a lot of people get those lot of people could get those little jobs that lot of people could get those little help jobs that lot of people could get those little help local>bs that lot of people could get those little help local economies that really help local economies that you between 12 and 20 grand you earn between 12 and 20 grand a year. if they're decent jobs. so would say to jeremy hunt, so i would say to jeremy hunt, unfreeze the personal tax allowance , put it up to 20 allowance, put it up to 20 grand, be bold. you'll save money in in the end from that because it will generate more activity, less benefit payments . activity, less benefit payments. all he needs a bit of leadership. >> superb liam halligan as always. bang on the money still to come, we're expecting to hear from lord cameron in his first major speech as foreign secretary i'm martin daubney on gb news and this is britain's news .

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . welcome back. news is. welcome back. >> it's 444. you're watching or listening to me, martin daubney on gb news now a new survey by yougov has found that 16% of teachers have admitted to self—censoring in front of religious pupils. the centre right think tank claims this has created a de facto blasphemy code in schools across the country . it says the batley country. it says the batley grammar school incident, where a teacher was forced into hiding and received death threats after showing a class a picture of the prophet muhammad and has quotes

clearly scared the teaching profession . charleton well, join profession. charleton well, join me now is toby young, general secretary of the free speech union . toby, thanks forjoining union. toby, thanks for joining us. it's always a pleasure in this report , the foreword is this report, the foreword is written by nadhim zahawi we saying batley was a national disgrace and yet here we are. this report of over 100 teachers shows that teachers are quite literally living in fear . literally living in fear. >> yeah, that's right. martin and the actual headline figures in the report are even worse than your initial introduction implied . implied. >> so the headline figure is that 55% of teachers in english schools wouldn't show a picture of muhammad to their classes. and it's partly because they saw what happened to the teacher at batley grammar school. when he did that, he was immediately targeted by a muslim outrage mob denounced in the local mosques . denounced in the local mosques.

you had crowds of angry muslims outside the school. he had to go into hiding with his young family , and as far as i know, family, and as far as i know, he's still hasn't returned to teaching at that particular school. he didn't get any support from head teacher support from his head teacher who suspended him pending an investigation. he got no support from the teaching unions and he got very lukewarm support from the government. so you know, it's understandable in a way that teachers think, well, if i was to act similarly, the local muslim community might react in a similar way and i'd be completely isolated and vulnerable for teachers that have young families, that's obviously a huge risk. >> yeah . toby, i can confirm >> yeah. toby, i can confirm that the teacher is still in hiding with his wife and children . he's not teaching children. he's not teaching anywhere. never mind the same school. he's too afraid to go back to work. he still daily lives in fear of his life. and so, toby, it's absolutely no surprise, is it, that teachers across the land are living under

that shadow of fear and it seems when you read reports like this, toby, that the mob has one, it does. >> martin and one thing, the free speech union is doing to try and rectify this situation is to persuade the department of education to include free speech amongst the british values that schools in england and wales are expected to promote. at the moment , they're expected to moment, they're expected to promote mutual respect and tolerance of people with different religions and beliefs . different religions and beliefs. but that's not the same thing as respecting or teaching respect for free speech. and the head teacher of batley grammar school, when he justified suspending the religious studies teacher who'd shown his class a picture of the prophet mohammed, said that he thought it might be a breach of the british value of teaching mutual respect and tolerance for people with different religions and beliefs because it was disrespectful to people with muslim beliefs . so

people with muslim beliefs. so far from protecting free speech, that particular british value, which schools are expected to promote at the moment, was invoked by the head teacher to justify by suspending the teacher in question, which is really shocking . really shocking. >> and toby, another concerning fact that's come out of this policy exchange. think tank is that 36% of teachers surveyed admitted they were getting guidance on to how avoid causing offence in their lessons. so teachers are being taught how not to teach in case it offends people . all yeah, no , it's very people. all yeah, no, it's very disappointing to learn this. >> martin there is no right not to be offended and if you believe in free speech that means defending things that some people are going to find offensive . i mean, it would be offensive. i mean, it would be one thing. martin if teachers and schools respected the blasphemy codes of muslims by

not mistreating the quran, not reproduce pictures of muhammad in lessons. and so forth. but if that's where we're going to go as a country , if we're going to as a country, if we're going to respect that the most sacred , respect that the most sacred, precious beliefs of particular minorities, then i think it's reasonable to expect those minorities to respect the most sacred and precious beliefs of the indigenous british population . and we certainly population. and we certainly don't see any reciprocation along those lines. we haven't seen that in the last six weeks with the protests every saturday, the pro—palestinian protests, which often lead to the desecration of british statues and war memorials. the desecration of british statues and war memorials . we statues and war memorials. we saw that last week with the protest outside downing street . protest outside downing street. some of the protesters climbing all over the memorial to the royal artillery. i mean, if muslim communities want teachers and schools and schoolchildren to respect their most sacred beliefs, to honour their blasphemy codes, then it would

be, i think, helpful for them to similarly respect our most precious and sacred values, to instead of trampling all over them . them. >> what can be done about this? toby i mean, we have a situation now where almost two and a half years on a teacher is still living in fear of their lives. we had a situation where a 14 year old autistic boy damaged a quran. mother was dragged in quran. his mother was dragged in front appeared to be front of what appeared to be a shana front of what appeared to be a sharia press sharia court, wouldn't press charges because she was too scared this continually scared. this is continually happening , and yet there seems happening, and yet there seems to be only demands for tolerance in terms of it being a one way traffic situation . traffic situation. >> well, one thing the free speech union did after the teacher at batley grammar school was targeted by a muslim outrage mob. we wrote to the charity commission to complain about the way in which the hostility towards the teacher had been stirred up in the local mosque

and subsequent. i stirred up in the local mosque and subsequent . i know stirred up in the local mosque and subsequent. i know some other people, including me, but not in my capacity as head of the free speech union, just in a personal capacity. we wrote to the charity commission to complain various complain about various anti—semitic sentiments being expressed in mosques, which are registered charities . so one registered charities. so one thing you can do, i think, martin, is you can encourage the charity commission to hold the feet to the fire of the faith leaders in mosques preaching this kind of intolerance and hatred. in addition , anne, you hatred. in addition, anne, you could join the free speech union's campaign to try and persuade the department for education to ask schools to promote free speech, which they're not doing at the moment, and to promote genuine tolerance for dodi. >> and we have to cut across you there because we now need to cut to david cameron, who was speaking food speaking at the global food security summit. speaking at the global food sec let's summit. speaking at the global food seclet's go nmit. speaking at the global food sec let's go t0|it. speaking at the global food sec let's go to david speaking at the global food seclet's go to david cameron >> let's go to david cameron live . live now. >> and an apology. i was meant to be teaching a course in abu dhabi at new york university in

january. and i've had to cancel that because of my new role. but i was very much looking forward to stay in your to another stay in your remarkable country . and of remarkable country. and of course, thank you to the children's fund foundation and the bill and melinda gates foundation for their support. it is so good to be back working with you again on these sorts of issues that matter so much. this government has a proud record on development. i'm proud of what we did on development and i'm determined that we put development back the development right back at the heart of our foreign and commonwealth and development office . it is so important . now office. it is so important. now you've had a long day with lots of speeches. i've had an extraordinary day going to the house of lords and doing all the right things and nodding and saying the oath and all the rest of it so i can go home and tell mrs. cameron she's now lady cameron. she's absolutely furious about that. but nonetheless, that's what happened to me today. but you've had a long day. you've had lots of so i just want to of speeches. so i just want to make for simple points. the

first is what you've been doing today and talking about today. food security really matters . i food security really matters. i believe in all of the sustainable development goals. indeed and i was part of the committee that helped do the original work on drawing them up. they're all important. i care about all of them. but food is foundational to all aspects of development without secure access to a nutritious diet , access to a nutritious diet, nothing can be achieved and malnourished children can never fully develop their bodies and their minds. and it robs them of their minds. and it robs them of their futures and it robs their societies of their potential and the number of people facing acute food insecurity is the highest that it has been in years . and this is just the tip years. and this is just the tip of what i've called a silent crisis , with a third of the crisis, with a third of the world unable to afford a healthy diet . so i world unable to afford a healthy diet. so i promise you this today the uk will continue to lead efforts like this. it's .

lead efforts like this. it's. great to it's great to speak after minister diaz from brazil as they take on the g20 presidency . as prime minister, presidency. as prime minister, i hosted with brazil summits on hunger and nutrition for growth in 2012 and in 2013. together either we galvanise global action. it was more money invested in better outcomes, and that's what's needed. again a second point this is an absolutely critical moment, not just because this silent crisis is growing, but because we cannot separate it from other global crises. putin's illegal invasion brought this home as he deliberately sought to rob us of one of the world's great breadbaskets. his cynicism was plain for all to see. he obstructed the black sea grain initiative. he then walked away from it. he then tried to

destroy the very supply booths that the world needs . but i saw that the world needs. but i saw for myself in ukraine, in the port of odesa there is good news. ukraine is pushing russia back in the black sea and with the new unity facility between uk insurance brokers and the government in kyiv shipping insurance for their food exports is affordable. once more . so let is affordable. once more. so let the message go out . the ships the message go out. the ships are sailing grain is being exported. ukraine will continue to help feed us all. third point there is a vital link between food security and development on the one hand and the problem of state fragility and conflict on the other . of course, farmers the other. of course, farmers can. farm traders can trade food, but without the rule of law and without property and land rights , without peace, land rights, without peace, without trusted institutions, you cannot get your product to market. and that's why it is

time to change the way we do development . and that is what development. and that is what andrew mitchell's excellent white paper published today is all about . it captures how all about. it captures how britain will help to do this in the future . no more top down the future. no more top down targets that set up fragile states to fail instead of working with them and that was david cameron. >> that is david cameron speaking at the global food security summit. the newly crowned baron cameron of chipping norton talking about food security matters , the food security matters, the silent crisis of hunger , how silent crisis of hunger, how putin robbed the robbed the earth of one of its greatest breadbaskets. we'll have more on that and plenty of other stories, including nigel farage down under and more on just stop oil right this. i martin oil right after this. i martin daubney

hello. welcome to the show. i'm martin daubney on gb news loads coming up in the next hour including is it time to just stop? just stop oil at last met police nick 15 of their pro protesters and watch what happened. when i put it to one of their organisers. does that just stop oil is actually funded by oil money. next story . the covid actually funded by oil money. next story. the covid inquiry rumbles on and once again, they're swinging at boris this time sir patrick vallance is putting the boot into bowser . putting the boot into bowser. and finally, you will not want

to miss this. richard tice is joining me in the studio and he's going to give us a rendition on his didgeridoo. that's the head tonight of the fact nigel is facing the first bushtucker trial down under eating all sorts of horrible animal parts . my prediction, he animal parts. my prediction, he will scoff the lot and wash it down with remainer tears. all that coming in the next hour. down with remainer tears. all that coming in the next hour . so that coming in the next hour. so the covid inquiry is basically turning into let's have a pop at bofis turning into let's have a pop at boris johnson. isn't it? they're queuing up to have a go. boris of course, gives his evidence in december . of course, gives his evidence in december. this time, sir patrick fallon's putting in the boot loads coming in this next hour. but that's after your news headunes but that's after your news headlines aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. >> very good afternoon to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. it is a minute past five and the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably. rishi sunak ,

and sustainably. rishi sunak, who visited a college in north london earlier , says the london earlier, says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy . now the inflation has been halved . speaking ahead of halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's , he wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. >> so now that inflation is halved and our growth is stronger, meaning revenues are higher, we can begin in the next phase and turn our attention to cutting tax . we will do this in cutting tax. we will do this in a serious, responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independent forecasts of the office of budget responsibility . office of budget responsibility. and we can't do everything all at once. it will take discipline and we need to prioritise. but over time we can and we will cut taxes as well .

taxes as well. >> boris johnson has been heavily criticised by his former chief scientific adviser . sir chief scientific adviser. sir patrick vallance has described the former prime minister as weak and indecisive in a daily diary entry from the time and has told the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was an effective response not convinced there was an efflimitz response not convinced there was an ef1limit the response not convinced there was an ef1limit the spread response not convinced there was an ef1limit the spread ofesponse not convinced there was an ef1limit the spread of the»nse not convinced there was an ef1limit the spread of the virus to limit the spread of the virus . sir patrick the . sir patrick described the scale of test and trace facilities as inadequate and said urgency of action said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it should have been. as sir patrick was also asked whether boris johnson was bamboozled by the science and graphs. >> well, i think i'm right in saying that the prime minister at the time gave up science when he was 15 at and i think he'd be the first to admit it wasn't his forte and that he did struggle with some of the concepts and we did need to repeat them often. >> certainly when i left a meeting, i would be i would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it was we were trying to say. but as one of the extracts showed that you put up there that six

hours later he might not have remembered what was what was in that presentation. >> four men have been convicted of murdering a woman who was shot with a machine gun in liverpool. ashley dale died after being found with a gunshot wound in her garden in august last the 28 year old was last year. the 28 year old was killed when james witham forced his way into her home and opened fire. sean xyz niall barry and joseph pearce were also found guilty of her murder. the israeli city of tel aviv has come under a huge hamas rocket attack this afternoon on more than 100 separate alerts sounded across the city, stretching as far south as ashdod. people rushing for air raid shelters were seen as israel's iron dome missile defence system intercepted multiple incoming hamas rockets fired from gaza. one security source has told gb news it's the single biggest barrage aimed at tel aviv since the october the seventh attacks. an irishman whose nine year old

daughter is believed to have been kidnapped by hamas has called for proof of life. speaking at a press conference at the israeli embassy in london, thomas hand says his irish israeli daughter emily was taken into gaza . taken into gaza. >> i was i was, you know , when >> i was i was, you know, when i first thought she was dead, i could start the process of grieving for narkiss. could start the process of grieving for narkiss . the mother grieving for narkiss. the mother of my older two kids and i could start grieving for emily. and then become in that moment, i was just thrown back into the nightmare . and believe me, it's nightmare. and believe me, it's a nightmare . meanwhile more than a nightmare. meanwhile more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from al—shifa . evacuated from al—shifa. >> the hospital have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and the palestinian red crescent made the move possible . the made the move possible. the hamas run ministry also says an airstrike on a different hospital has killed at least 12 people. that's in the north of the territory . a drug raid has

the territory. a drug raid has taken place in the middle of winchester city centre at a large cannabis factory . police large cannabis factory. police have released footage their search where officers discovered a large number of cannabis plants. a 54 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of producing the controlled class b drug. he remains in custody and the plants will be destroyed . 15 the plants will be destroyed. 15 just stop. oil activists have been arrested following a slow march through central london. the group says it's stepping up its demonstrations demanding an end to new gas and oil licences. dozens of protesters walked from trafalgar square to whitehall on what they warned was the first of seven days of action. the met police says the area was cleared quickly . the foreign secretary quickly. the foreign secretary has formally been introduced to the house of lords. the former prime minister now takes the title. baron cameron of chipping norton. lord cameron wore a traditional scarlet robes for the ceremony where he swore the oath of allegiance to the king

well, we are live across the uk, on tv, on digital radio, and if you want us on your smart speakeh you want us on your smart speaker, say play gb news. now it is back to . martin thank it is back to. martin thank you, aaron. >> now, lord david cameron has just addressed the global food security summit. as foreign secretary, in one of his first speeches after his return to cabinet last week . well, we can cabinet last week. well, we can now speak with gb news political editor christopher hope. chris? so there he was, baron cameron of chipping norton , giving his of chipping norton, giving his first address, and he seemed quite chipper. >> yeah, he was . he choked, >> yeah, he was. he choked, didn't he, about how mrs. cameron will be furious about being called lady cameron. there were always rumours, aren't there, that there was a deal done between the camerons that that cameron would get that samantha cameron would get her husband back after her political career was over. well, he's back in the game , isn't he?

he's back in the game, isn't he? seven years after that , that seven years after that, that vote to leave the european union that prompted him to resign . he that prompted him to resign. he taught though, about taught there, though, about changing the way we do our development . of course, he was development. of course, he was the original pm who brought up the original pm who brought up the amount we spend on aid to 0.7% of gdp and it was cut down to 0.5, wasn't it? by the current prime minister, rishi sunak , to pay to help find more sunak, to pay to help find more money to pay for the covid pandemic . and latterly, i pandemic. and latterly, i suppose the cost of living crisis the in ukraine crisis and the war in ukraine also been some criticism about the some the money the fact that some of the money has house migrants has been used to house migrants in arrived here in hotels who have arrived here illegally across the border from france. so but he has said before that was then this is now. he's a team player. he's working with andrew mitchell and working with andrew mitchell and working with andrew mitchell and working with mitchell to make sure that the money, aid money goes further. working alongside other . this food other countries. this food summit in lancaster , lancaster summit in lancaster, lancaster house, where i was earlier, is designed to find to allow developing countries to take advantage of uk technology to help work with them, to develop

better ways of feeding their population rather than imposing cash on them with conditions. it's more collaborative and that's maybe a better way of doing it. >> chris, one of the founders and the funders of this conference is melania and bill gates, the foundation . and we gates, the foundation. and we saw at the weekend reports of david cameron wanting to increase the foreign aid budget this is kind of sending out a confusing message. this isn't what conservatives want . well, what conservatives want. well, yes , as i said, i mean, that was yes, as i said, i mean, that was his the point. >> 7% of gdp on aid was a big victory for david cameron's government . they increased its government. they increased its over several years from 2010 to 2013, 2014. when he hit this point 7. and then, of course , as point 7. and then, of course, as the economy grew, so did the aid budget . so by the end, by the budget. so by the end, by the time he left office, it was bigger than i think the home office budget. and think the office budget. and i think the prisons budget so it was much, prisons budget. so it was much, much it always much bigger and it was always contentious that the tory right

had an issue with it, but it stayed there through the stayed there all through the 20105. i stayed there all through the 2010s. i think boris johnson johnson was keen on it. it was only cut back to 0.5% of our gross domestic product to help pay gross domestic product to help pay covid pandemic. and pay for the covid pandemic. and that will a live issue going that will be a live issue going forward. the deal now is that it's unlikely able go it's unlikely to be able to go back percent until 27, back to 0.7 percent until 27, 2020, 27, 2028. in the next tory government, if they win the next election, which is not looking likely according to the polls, i don't think it's an issue yet for a debate in politics, but certainly we know what david cameron has thought in the past about this and i bet privately he wants to go back to 0.7. but publicly he's holding the line 0.5. it is . 0.5. it is. >> and chris moore , for rumours >> and chris moore, for rumours of a rift over rwanda, this time within the cabinet. rishi, is plan b still not landing very well, it seems . well, it seems. >> yeah. plan b is or even plan b too or something . there's two b too or something. there's two options. isn't a full fat and a semi—skimmed version on this,

martin and what they do next to try and over over deal deal with this supreme court ruling last week. we're seeing a new treaty with rwanda published probably on thursday this week. certainly we think it's this week, which will that rwanda doesn't will ensure that rwanda doesn't then take migrants who are processed in rwanda, having bought back from the uk and send them back to countries where they might be at risk. and then they might be at risk. and then they also be they also will be new legislation as soon as legislation maybe as soon as next week, which could well look at allow for the at how to allow for the government to re designate rwanda as a safe country and ensure that the human rights laws aren't used by lawyers to frustrate removing migrants from the uk to rwanda . there is the uk to rwanda. there is a real frustration in number 10. they can't do this. we saw that in the statement last week from the prime minister that the time for with this government for talking with this government is seeing language is over. we're seeing language today also on tax cuts, as you've been hearing the you've been hearing on the programme, some programme, there will be some tax almost certainly tax cuts, almost certainly signalled announced and signalled or even announced and maybe personal taxes, too, maybe even personal taxes, too, not for businesses. as soon not just for businesses. as soon as wednesday's statement .

as wednesday's autumn statement. so i think there's been a year of talking from this prime minister. mr sunak, i think the time action is coming both on time of action is coming both on small boats and on tax. well let's we see some action soon. >> chris. superb as ever. thank you, live you, chris, for joining us live from westminster. now moving on, you, chris, for joining us live froncovidtminsteh now moving on, you, chris, for joining us live froncovid inquiry'. now moving on, you, chris, for joining us live froncovid inquiry continues/ing on, you, chris, for joining us live froncovid inquiry continues and on, the covid inquiry continues and today was the turn of former chief scientific adviser sir patrick vallance , who you may patrick vallance, who you may remember from our endless press officers. he said the prime minister at the time struggled by the graphs and data presented to him during the pandemic and was sometimes a broken man. he also said that he was concerned at times the government's operational response at limiting the spread of the virus in the early stages of the pandemic. well now we can speak with charles persinger, who lost his wife and his mother to covid. charles thanks for joining us on the show. the covid inquiry rumbles on today. sir patrick vallance saying boris struggled with concept and was often bamboozled. when you look back and by the way, very sorry for

your loss, who do you hold responsible ? responsible? >> yeah, the government basically do carry some responsibility for this. >> it's quite clearly that , you >> it's quite clearly that, you know, they claim to follow the science , but it's been revealed science, but it's been revealed in the covid inquiry today that that's not the case. >> they didn't understand the science , let alone choose to science, let alone choose to engage with their own science advisers that sage concerned on certain issues. for instance , certain issues. for instance, today we learned in the covid inquiry that rishi sunak , who, inquiry that rishi sunak, who, you know, is a chancellor at the time, chose to not mention their eat out to help out program. they chose not to engage with their own government advisers because they were scared of scrutiny from independent sage . scrutiny from independent sage. so i think they basically picked and chose the science that was politically convenient for them . politically convenient for them. and once again, putting the economy before the welfare of the country . it's absolutely the country. it's absolutely disgraceful . um, you know, how disgraceful. um, you know, how much longer will the country tolerate this , charles, when you

tolerate this, charles, when you look back , of course, boris look back, of course, boris johnson, the conservatives were in control. >> but we must remember that at the time every political party nodded along and went along with this. and there was no real opposition. when we look back , opposition. when we look back, with the benefit of hindsight, we have learned a more we may have learned a more swedish style approach, may have been warranted. do you think this was an entire failure of the whole political class at the time ? i think personally what time? i think personally what they did is they choose to politicise a deadly virus where they should have been looking at it as a health concern as opposed to a political issue. >> i mean, i know there's commonality , but yeah, they commonality, but yeah, they basically didn't handle it at all. the messaging was wrong. they couldn't even , um, you know they couldn't even, um, you know , between their own government, there was nothing but contempt towards one another and even more contempt towards the country. you know, personally , i country. you know, personally, i think it's time we have a general election and the people

get choose the government. get to choose the government. they. they want. they. they they want. >> that's going >> well, that's going to be coming soon anyway , i coming pretty soon anyway, i would thought. charles, would have thought. charles, what do you make of the prospect of boris himself taking the podium? he's going to be cross—examined, i believe, in december. what would you like to ask boris johnson . ask boris johnson. >> yeah. why didn't he do better at the end of the day, his messaging was never straight . messaging was never straight. um, you know, why did he say let the bodies pile high? why was he so happy to throw our elderly under bus or clinically under the bus or clinically vulnerable ? um, and our vulnerable? um, and our marginalised groups of people in this country basically , um, he this country basically, um, he didn't care . that's the truth of didn't care. that's the truth of the matter. no matter what he says. um, i think he still doesn't. and to be quite honest with you, i don't think the situation has improved even today. >> and what confidence would you have in the uk's ability to handle a pandemic or a public

health emergency of a comparable nature in the future? do you think we've learned lessons or do you think we'd still make the same mistakes ? same mistakes? >> unfortunately , key lessons >> unfortunately, key lessons are being learned . whether those are being learned. whether those lessons are being adhered to, that's the problem. or our government going to choose to listen to the inquiry, the advice they've given , or are advice they've given, or are they going to politicise another emergency? see, that's what i'm really concerned about. you know , i think personally, the track record is rather revealing at the moment . record is rather revealing at the moment. it and to be honest, i don't have confidence in the government at the moment . i don't have confidence in the government at the moment. um, look at the results . look at the results. >> okay. charles pascoe, thank you for joining >> okay. charles pascoe, thank you forjoining us on the show. you for joining us on the show. and again, i'm sorry for your loss. have a good day. thanks for joining us. okay, let's get forjoining us. okay, let's get back now to that speech given earlier by the chancellor jeremy hunt, halligan. hunt, with liam halligan. our economics and business editor liam , here we are again. he liam, here we are again. he offered a bit of optimism, didn't he? but what people really want some detail, some really want is some detail, some actual flesh bone, and actual flesh on the bone, and particularly what are those tax

cuts going to look like. he's certainly a spring in his certainly got a spring in his step. he's been kind of >> i think he's been kind of unleashed little by the unleashed a little bit by the prime minister inflation is prime minister now inflation is down quite sharply from 6.7% dunng down quite sharply from 6.7% during the year to september to 4.6% during the year to october. big reduction there. we only learnt about that last week. downing street's convinced itself that that oh, we can juice up the economy with some tax cuts without unleashing inflation. i think a lot of panic has set in as well because ahead of the autumn statement on wednesday, you've got an awful lot of centre right tory backbenchers screaming now for tax cuts. looking at the opinion polls saying that keir starmer is 20 odd points ahead with a general election sort of hoving into view. so i think it's a combination of a bit of economic development but also a lot of political panicking that's led to this change. so what kind of tax cuts could we see on wednesday? well, they may just be announcements. they may not actually come in any time soon.

they may wait until the next fiscal year, which begins in april. but let's have look. april. but let's have a look. the that have the kind of things that have been around in sunday been knocking around in sunday papers. lots of papers. there's lots of speculation. what are the autumn statement options? well, the first to extend what we first one is to extend what we call full expensing. this is when a company makes an investment and offsets the cost of that investment in a new factory plant or new technology , factory plant or new technology, new it against their corporation tax bill. big businesses will like that. small businesses not so much because those small businesses often haven't got the money to do the investment in the first place, so they can't get or borrow the money. they can't get the tax break because their sheet stand their balance sheet can't stand their balance sheet can't stand the debt . with interest the extra debt. with interest rates very high. something rates still very high. something else that's been in the offing, cutting inheritance tax. this is something that my paper, the sunday telegraph, has been campaigning for. i actually think this bit like liz think this is a bit like liz truss, kwasi kwarteng last october , saying that they'll cut october, saying that they'll cut the top rate of income tax. a lot of people thought hang on, there's a cost of living crisis

here. that's really tin eared to want to cut a tax for wealthy people. well, a lot of people don't like inheritance tax. a lot modest. families lot are quite modest. families end paying inheritance tax if end up paying inheritance tax if they a family home for more they sell a family home for more than £1 million. but i would say it still feels like a wealthy person's tax. so i don't think that would be the right thing to do in the current climate until the living crisis ease the cost of living crisis ease some else. sunak and hunt some thing else. sunak and hunt could unfreeze those frozen tax thresholds, raise them these tax thresholds. the starting rate of tax where you start paying the bafic tax where you start paying the basic rate of income tax , where basic rate of income tax, where you start paying the top rate of income tax. they've been frozen . income tax. they've been frozen. those income levels have been frozen for a while now. they're due to be frozen until 2028. more and more people get dragged into those top tax brackets. modest lee paid policemen, nurses , teachers. they're nurses, teachers. they're suddenly top rate taxpayers and they weren't meant to be top rate taxpayers . you've got to rate taxpayers. you've got to unfreeze those thresholds because they are the ultimate stealth tax . and what i've been

stealth tax. and what i've been calling in my column is calling for in my column is increase personal tax increase the personal tax allowance. that's something that ministers about ministers are also talking about . getting calls from people . i'm getting calls from people in saying, hmm, in government saying, hmm, interesting column on sunday, liam saying that we're going to increase the personal tax allowance. you ? i mean, allowance. who told you? i mean, as i'm going say. but no as if i'm going to say. but no one me. i just made it up. one told me. i just made it up. journalists can have independent thoughts if do raise the tax thoughts if we do raise the tax threshold from 12.5 grand to 20 grand, you take out of tax three, 4 million low paid people . you take out of tax pension , . you take out of tax pension, those who receive the basic state pension in because those pensions now are going up. they're going to be caught by that tax bracket. i think that would be a really bold thing to do. i also reject the notion from lots of whitehall economists. it would cost a huge amount of money to raise the personal tax allowance from 12.5 to grand because it would to 20 grand because it would lead martin lead to more activity. martin less benefit payments at the lower income, less in—work benefits , and you get more benefits, and you get more economic growth. and that's how you get your money back. and in my view and more fantastic as

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had dbs and co weeknights from . six >> welcome back. just before 525. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now tel aviv has come under a huge hamas rocket attack in this last hour. under a huge hamas rocket attack in this last hour . more than 100 in this last hour. more than 100 separate alerts sounded right across the city, stretching as far south as ashdod for the latest, our security editor mark white joins us now live in the studio . mark, dramatic events, studio. mark, dramatic events, talk us through the latest. >> yeah, we're looking at one of the videos there that shows some of the iron dome missile defence systems going into the air as these sirens sounded right across tel aviv to as far south as ashdod . right. you know, from as ashdod. right. you know, from the north to the to south the east of tel aviv , 200, more than east of tel aviv, 200, more than

100 separate alerts as these rockets were fired in from gaza and caused a number of impacts were still awaiting word on if there were any injuries. but we know that there were impacts , know that there were impacts, that there was a vehicle that was damaged on one of the main road networks, the driver of that vehicle had a lucky escape . that vehicle had a lucky escape. you can see the rocket damage on the ground there. and that vehicle is a white vehicle just to the side. it's just the back of the vehicle that was damaged . of the vehicle that was damaged. but shrapnel obviously from that rocket impacting the back of that car. so whoever was in that vehicle was very lucky, lucky escape. they weren't struck by the shrapnel. and as well as the damage to this vehicle and the lucky escape of that driver, there was an apartment building you see here that it suffered an impact as well, caused significant damage on the upper floors of that apartment. and what it goes to show you is that

45 days after the operation began to go after hamas in the gaza strip, they still have very significant capabilities , significant capabilities, capabilities to launch this rocket attack into to tel aviv. if we look at this app here, you can see this is a mobile phone app can see this is a mobile phone app that shows you the number of separate alerts, the huge capability , 80 that hamas still capability, 80 that hamas still has is from its underground layers from these tunnels that they pop up from. and they just fire off these rockets towards as israel's civilian populations. >> and mark, another hugely contentious aspect of this war, of course, is hamas using hospitals as shields or actually having operations within them. the shifa hospital, of course , the shifa hospital, of course, the most the biggest and the most talked about, and there's a dramatic development on that front, too. >> yes , al—shifa is the >> yes, al—shifa is the hospital, which is currently the subject of a ground operation in

by israel . the forces of the idf by israel. the forces of the idf have gone into that hospital and have gone into that hospital and have spent the last few days searching around that area. very controversial , condemned by searching around that area. very controversial, condemned by many people are saying they have no right to be in there . israel has right to be in there. israel has always claimed that the hospital complex has been used by hamas and now some of the 300 hamas prisoners that the israelis have in their custody who've been interviewed have admitted, yes, that up to 100 hamas and islamic jihad terrorists operated from inside the al—shifa hospital dressed they say, in medical, you know, medical gear and porters, clothing in scrubs to try and blend in. this is what one of those terrorists who was being interviewed told his interrogators, which was captured on video. i saw a lot of them, about 80, 90, 100. >> it reached 100 people whose

people? >> the terrorists . >> the terrorists. >> the terrorists. >> it's hamas terrorists, hamas and islamic jihad in the hospital , in and islamic jihad in the hospital, in the and islamic jihad in the hospital , in the shifa and islamic jihad in the hospital, in the shifa hospital, in the heart of the shifa hosphal in the heart of the shifa hospital, shifa not the al—quds, shifa , they were dressed as shifa, they were dressed as nursing staff , shifa, they were dressed as nursing staff, but shifa, they were dressed as nursing staff , but they were not nursing staff, but they were not nurses or doctors. >> hamas operatives dressed as medical staff in order to blend in within the hospital wards. >> even in the intensive care unit . unit. >> so he's saying they're hamas terrorists . terrorists. >> it's dressing as doctors and nurses and using directly the hospital as coveh that's a huge admission . admission. >> and he also said that the doctors , the al—shifa hospital , doctors, the al—shifa hospital, knew about the fact that these terrorists were there in the midst and were very angry, understandably , that the understandably, that the hospital was being used by these terrorists. now, this is very different to what these same medics have been saying to anyone who will listen in about

the israel military targeting al—shifa and other hospitals in the gaza strip, saying that they are wholly innocent in terms of any involvement with terror groups. they know nothing. they have said about terrorists operating from in and around the al—shifa hospital. but as well as what the israelis have got in terms of that interrogate , and terms of that interrogate, and this is video of hostages, according to the idf being taken in to the al—shifa hospital, one on a stretcher, another being bungled in there, surrounded by hamas terrorists. some with automatic rifles in full view of medical staff in their scrubs there. those those hostages being taken , according to the being taken, according to the idf, off down into the tunnel systems where they either remain today or something, some worse fate has , you know, affect them. fate has, you know, affect them. and hopefully there's still alive. but it's going to be

very, very difficult for the idf to get down into these hundreds of miles of tunnels that have been pre—prepared and booby trapped by the hamas terrorists to try to obviously entrap up the idf forces when they go down into the tunnel systems. >> and mark the hugely contentious issue of the idf targeting hospitals is might start to make a bit more sense if in actual fact this is accurate and true. and hamas are specifically using the disguise of fancy dress to evade being targeted and to use hospitals to take hostages into this. this is a huge revelation. yeah >> i mean, what the idf say is they don't strike hospitals and they don't strike hospitals and they maintain they have not struck hospitals such they have, though, launched attacks on hamas infrastructure for very near some of gaza's hospitals. they've gone in on the ground on

gaza's hospital doors. in some cases, they have been involved in firefights from hamas terrorists that they say have been embedded in this hospitals and firing outside al—shifa . and firing outside al—shifa. they went in without firing any shots. and then other systematically looking around this vast hospital complex , this vast hospital complex, they're uncovering tunnels and other evidence that they say points to the fact hamas was using this hospital. >> thank you. astonishing revelations as well. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. and the for office national statistics is being criticised for significantly overestimating the number of trans people in england and wales. and we'll find out why shortly. but first, here's your latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> good evening to you. it is 532 aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the prime minister, rishi sunak, has promised tax cuts to boost economic growth

and reward hard work ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, the minister who visited the prime minister who visited a college in north london, says the government can move into the next phase fixing economy next phase of fixing the economy now that inflation has been halved. but says any cuts halved. but says any tax cuts will be carefully and will be made carefully and sustainably. identified sustainably. he's identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt, building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. the government's former chief scientific adviser has heavily criticised boris johnson , criticised boris johnson, telling the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was an effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus . sir patrick vallance described the former prime minister as weak and indecisive in his diary entries, adding he was frequently bamboozled by the science. sir patrick also said former health secretary matt hancock had a habit of saying things that weren't true . four things that weren't true. four men have been convicted of murdering ashley dale, who was shot with a machine gun in liverpool last year. the 28 year old was killed when james witham

forced open the door her home forced open the door of her home and opened fire. sean zeiss and nile barry were also found guilty after the jury heard they'd organised aid and encouraged the killing. following a fight with the victim's boyfriend while joseph peers identified as a fellow peers was identified as a fellow foot soldier . they'll be foot soldier. they'll be sentenced on wednesday . and sentenced on wednesday. and israel has come under a huge hamas rocket attack this afternoon . more than 100 afternoon. more than 100 separate alerts sounded across tel aviv, stretching as far south as ashdod . people were south as ashdod. people were seen rushing for air raid shelters. israel's iron dome missile defence system intercepted multiple incoming rockets fired from gaza. one. security sources told gb news it's the biggest barrage aimed at tel aviv since the october 7th attacks . and 15 just stop. 7th attacks. and 15 just stop. oil activists have been arrested following a slow march through central london. the group says it's stepping up its demonstrations , demanding an end demonstrations, demanding an end to new gas and oil licences . to new gas and oil licences. dozens of protesters walked from

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financial report. at and thank you, aaron. >> now the office for national statistics is being criticised for significantly overestimating the number of trans people in england and wales. according to the findings of the 2021 census, there were 262,000 transgender people living in england and wales, which would be an equivalent of 0.5% of the population . but just how population. but just how credible is this estimation ? credible is this estimation? well, joining me now to discuss this is the executive editor of sex matters, a human rights organisation that campaigns for clarity on sex in law and everyday life. welcome to the show. maya forstater . thanks for show. maya forstater. thanks for joining us on the show. all always a pleasure. so can you talk us through how we got to this figure of 262,000? but actually , it seems to be actually, it seems to be massively over estimating the numbers. what's going on? >> it does. well, this is the first time the census is done every ten years. >> and this is the first time this question's been asked. and the way that the ons decided to

ask the question was they didn't ask, are you trans? they asked everybody dodi over the age of 16 is the gender you identify the same as the sex that you that was recorded at birth . your that was recorded at birth. your sex recorded at birth? it's quite a difficult question to understand . and to hundred and understand. and to hundred and 62,000 people said, no, they're sex. the gender they identify is not the same as their sex recorded at birth. and the question is how many of those people really meant to say no, meaning i'm transgender, and how many people meant say no, i don't understand the question or no , i'm not transgender. don't understand the question or no , i'm not transgender . and we no, i'm not transgender. and we think quite a lot of them. there are a lot of clues that show that people got the question wrong. for example , all the wrong. for example, all the areas with the highest rates of transgender people were boroughs like newham, brent tower hamlets, places where lots of

people, lots more people speak engush people, lots more people speak english as a second language, which , um, and these there were which, um, and these there were very high, high rates of apparently transgender people in these boroughs . and so the these boroughs. and so the question is, are there lots of are there really lots of transgender people in these boroughs or is it that a lot of people didn't understand the question because the asked it in a way that doesn't make sense? i mean, even if you even if engushis mean, even if you even if english is your first language, it's a really hard question to understand . understand. >> astonished >> and maya, an astonished finding that came out of this report is that people whose first language was not english were four times more likely to say they were trans. and what happened? i mean, i know barnet, i know brent , happened? i mean, i know barnet, i know brent, i know happened? i mean, i know barnet, i know brent , i know brighton, i know brent, i know brighton, apparently there are more trans people in brent than brighton. clearly that's not the case, is it ? it? >> that mean ? that seems like >> that mean? that seems like common sense to you and me and to the academics who looked at it. but the ons sticking to

their guns and they after the census, they do some checking. they have they do some telephone calls where they ring a much smaller number of people to check whether they answered the questions correctly to see if they're and they found they're accurate and they found that a lot of the people who on paper said they were trans when they rang them up said, you know, said, no, that wasn't how i meant to answer answer the question . um, and they they've question. um, and they they've disregarded that. they've said, oh well maybe those people were living in a household where they didn't want to . um, the other didn't want to. um, the other people who live with them to overhear that they're trans , overhear that they're trans, which is, which just bizarre . which is, which is just bizarre. you know, if you, if you live with your family , they're going with your family, they're going to know whether . you're the kind to know whether. you're the kind of thing that you keep secret within a family. >> and maya, this matters, doesn't it? because if we have a gross overrepresentation of a social group, that's been used

quite often to shoehorn in policy change in terms of education and health provision, if the numbers are entirely inaccurate, then it blows a hole. it blows the bottom out of the case for being so obsessed with trans ideology. does it . with trans ideology. does it. >> absolutely. and it undermines our whole understanding of what's going on. you know, if you think that 1 in 200 people are trans and then when children turn up in school in the numbers that they are saying that they have gender dysphoria and they identify as the opposite sex, that will be seen as being , oh, that will be seen as being, oh, well, you know, 1 in 200 people are trans . so let's transition are trans. so let's transition these children rather than this is something that we've never seen before. what's going on here? what's going on with the mental health of these children and similarly, if you think that 1 in 200 people are trans and then they don't turn up in your employment, in your health care

or in your universities and so on, stonewall and other organisations will say, oh well, we need a great big programme of spending to make sure that 1 in 200 university students are trans or 1 in 200 employees are trans or1 in 200 employees are trans or1 in 200 employees are trans . but if the trans or1 in 200 employees are trans. but if the original figure of 1 in 200 was complete nonsense , yes, then you're just nonsense, yes, then you're just creating the opportunity for these organisations to have more influence on organisation actions and create more damage . actions and create more damage. >> and maya, census data is meant to be about the truth. it's meant to be immutable facts . and yet if we have such a margin of error, maya, would you say that the 2021 census in terms of its trans representation isn't worth the paper it's written on? >> i would. i mean the statistics regulator still gets the final say and they have looked at the data and say whether this is up to scratch to be called national statistics. they don't have to decide for the whole i mean, they could say

most of the census is fine, but this not reliable. this question is not reliable. and they could just say this is not a national statistic. handle this with extreme care . you this with extreme care. you cannot use this data to make decisions on because it's because it's not reliable. you may have thought that an executive director of sex m atters. matters. >> thank you very much for joining us on gb news today. wow okay. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including nigel farage, of course, under. so we'll course, is down under. so we'll be looking ahead to tonight's grim bushtucker trial in which he churning he has a stomach churning challenge dry or chesty cough? wondering what type of cough you have? try bronchostop. bronchostop is used to relieve dry and chesty coughs.

sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back to show 545. now lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts and our various topics today. firstly on taxes, adrian says this. it's about time the government stopped taxing pensions or pensioners. you work all your life and you pay your taxes and then you lose a little bit. you tried to save to make your old age a little more comfortable. a lot of people will agree with that. bob says this we keep heanng that. bob says this we keep hearing about the autumn statement. one tax not mentioned is vat. what about lowering the rate on single items under £5,000, but raising it for single items over £5,000? that way the better off who buy the bigger items would pay more tax. great common sense probably. that's why it'll never catch on. meanwhile, regarding protests, michael says this. i think that

if people want to hold protests that will involve the use of police resources, then these protesters must pay for the policing costs in advance and any damage done to property. this must be a sensible route as these marches are becoming more expensive for the police and taxpayer . don't forget 15 taxpayer. don't forget 15 arrests today at just stop oil a lot of people saying thank goodness for that. finally, no more tea and sympathy, but let's get in the back of a riot van. meanwhile steve says this. martin listening to lord cameron's speech when will this tory party get it ? cameron's speech when will this tory party get it? no one's interested in foreign policy or chucking millions of third world countries to third world countries. when will they stop the boats? get rid of the illegals and have a police force that's not dual standard. again, a lot of people will be agreeing with every word you said there. meanwhile, gordon says this. we have a prime minister with no mandate and a foreign secretary who literally walked in off the street. i don't care what they have to say. they are an

elected. okay fantastic stuff. keep them coming in all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. now moving on to the grand finale of the show and tonight's big treat, gb news own nigel farage started his jungle journey last night. as i'm a celebrity, get me out of here. returned to our screens and let's have a sneak preview of what's to come. >> it's slightly different for you this . oh god is you this. oh god is a marguerita. i a camel udder. marguerita. i a camel uddeh wow. and a sheep udder with a cow's teat . cow's teat. >> there's nothing. did you prepare this yourselves? >> no. no personally, no. >> no. no personally, no. >> take all the credit. >> we can't take all the credit. >> we can't take all the credit. >> smashing it. you're >> you're smashing it. you're smashing it. >> this is. smashing it. >> this is . it blew in half. oh >> this is. it blew in half. oh farage farage was . farage farage was. >> that's nigel tucking to in the marguerita and that's a pun on the fact it's a pizza, a

margherita with teats on it. udders and all sorts of other bodily parts. and of course, you can watch that latest episode tonight on 9 pm. on itv. can watch that latest episode tonight on 9 pm. on itv . i'm tonight on 9 pm. on itv. i'm joined now by richard tice leader of the reform party and gb news colleague in the studio in many ways, we can't wait to see it, but to be honest, that doesn't look worse than many of the buffets nigel would have eaten in brussels. well there is that eaten in brussels. well there is tha this hat. >> this is the hat. >> this is the hat. >> he good the hat, >> he looks good in the hat, don't think? i mean, don't you think? i mean, he looks comfortable. very looks very comfortable. very relaxed there. i mean, relaxed down there. i mean, i thought last night was fantastic relaxed down there. i mean, i thou showed night was fantastic relaxed down there. i mean, i thou showed night ciuhurntastic relaxed down there. i mean, i thou showed night ciuhur obvious . he showed calm ciuhur obvious leadership when all else around him was collapsing and squealing and screaming. he seemed quite comfortable with snakes around his head. i wonder where martin he got that from. do you think that was too many snakes in the european around european parliament and around brussels ? brussels? >> f“- f“— brussels? >> right. and all >> yeah, that's right. and all that and i mean, that slime and sleaze. i mean, it's almost was made for it's almost like he was made for the richard. a serious the job, richard. but a serious point . it's obviously point. it's obviously dividing audiences thing we've audiences. but one thing we've seen that the and the seen is that the keiths and the lenders as dick called them, the gb viewers , are right

gb news viewers, are right behind man . do gb news viewers, are right behind man. do you think behind their man. do you think he's got a sniff of winning it? >> oh, i think he's got an absolute cracking chance. i mean, of mean, look, there's lots of competition. rumours mean, look, there's lots of comjthere's. rumours mean, look, there's lots of comjthere's. least rumours competition. there are rumours that there's at least one more contestant going to come into that there's at least one more cracking chance. >> josie gibson, obviously a, you know, a real favourite . but you know, a real favourite. but listen, it is quite funny that the lefties who don't like nigel, you know, they've got a choice. they either don't watch it. they tried to organise a boycott, but actually the truth is millions and millions of people have already started watching it. millions i think, are clearly going to vote for nigel to do some horrific things , horrific trials on the way through just to see how he responds. i think he'll do extremely well, actually . i extremely well, actually. i really i've just got a strong sense of it. but in our show later on, so i'm hosting his show this week and we've got fatima whitbread coming in. she, of course , was a contestant back of course, was a contestant back in, i think 2011, did really , in, i think 2011, did really, really well. she's brilliant. so

she will be able to explain sort of the pressures behind the scene, what goes on and what it's like living with a camera on you all the time. and whether or not you've got to be discreet, thoughtful whether discreet, thoughtful or whether you your life regardless. >> richard is much >> and richard is very much looking like nigel win the looking like nigel may win the dubious honour of winning more bushtucker trials. and matt hancock . it's looking that way. hancock. it's looking that way. i think they'll keep trying to shoveit i think they'll keep trying to shove it down his throat. they'll everything they'll kind of chuck everything they at him, him and they can at him, onto him and all rest of it, you know? all the rest of it, you know? nigel than most. do nigel perhaps more than most. do you think that will bother him, or do you think it'll just rise the and soak it all the challenge and soak it all up? >> 5 up? >> a very competitive >> nigel is a very competitive man, particularly against someone like mr hancock, who i don't ever don't think he would ever describe a describe himself in a complimentary way. will be complimentary way. so he will be determined to beat hancock in every possible. in terms every sense possible. in terms of the, the success of the trials. and hancock was pretty successful last year. yeah. so yeah, he's got a pretty high bar to match, but he will be going for it. he'll be absolutely determined. will want determined. he will not want these get ahead of these trials to get ahead of him. disgusting and

him. however disgusting and revolting. i mean, david mellor last night, i mean she, she squealed and screamed the squealed and screamed at the first of snake. first sight of a snake. for heaven's sake. >> yeah. yeah. i wonder if that was desk. could was wasted on the desk. could we. we pop could we we. could we pop it on? could we have what do you think? have a look? what do you think? >> just a certain style. do you have a look? what do you think? >> ju maybe tain style. do you have a look? what do you think? >> jumaybe i'll| style. do you have a look? what do you think? >> jumaybe i'll get le. do you have a look? what do you think? >> ju maybe i'll get the )o you have a look? what do you think? >> jumaybe i'll get the )o ycup think maybe i'll get the call up next year, do you think? martin? that's of the indiana that's a bit of the indiana jones going on there. >> i think think royal >> i think i think that's royal debonair. some footage of debonair. i saw some footage of you didgeridoo. you playing your didgeridoo. where's your didge? >> we're >> well, actually, we're still looking didgeridoo looking for the didgeridoo because i was because the one that i was practising last week, that practising on last week, that was the in was elsewhere, but the one in there is the building there is one in the building here. think someone's here. we think someone's actually nick actually practising as nick gibb, we might to order gibb, so we might have to order a third degree redo. a second or a third degree redo. we have a we might actually have a competition easy we might actually have a comp have] easy we might actually have a comp have you easy we might actually have a comp have you ever easy we might actually have a comp have you ever playedasy didgeridoo? >> i have. and i've got say, >> i have. and i've got to say, i'm not did. oh, here we i'm not bad. i did. oh, here we are. >> coming out now. sign >> it's all coming out now. sign of a misspent youth if you're a good didgeridoo blower. >> i live under >> well, i did live down under for a couple of years in sydney and i did go to odd rave and for a couple of years in sydney adid did go to odd rave and for a couple of years in sydney adid playgo to odd rave and for a couple of years in sydney adid play theo odd rave and for a couple of years in sydney adid play the odd odd rave and for a couple of years in sydney adid play the odd didgeridoo. nd i did play the odd didgeridoo. and another thing that i and i think another thing that i think down well think will go down very well with they like

with nigel is that they like people him down under people like him down under because he's he's that because he's that he's that proper brit spirit. and i think he's got a really good sniff. and if he gets to the final he'll be it'll be a de facto brexit referendum. he'll be it'll be a de facto bre oh, aferendum. he'll be it'll be a de facto bre oh, wow. idum. he'll be it'll be a de facto bre oh, wow. just. he'll be it'll be a de facto bre oh, wow. just imagine, >> oh, wow. just imagine, particularly if it's someone like mean, like fred. i mean, there's a number of people who are proper remainers amongst amongst that group. imagine group. so yeah, just imagine a sort a brexit, like a sort of sort of a brexit, like a sort of remain or leave final. i mean it would absolute hoot. i'll have remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwholeolute hoot. i'll have remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhole country ot. i'll have remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhole country watching ve remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhotice yuntry watching ve remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhotice thanks atching ve remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhotice thanks for1ing ve remain or leave final. i mean it w0lwhotice thanks for joining richard tice thanks for joining us in the studio. >> and that's tonight 9:00, >> and that's tonight at 9:00, of and joined in the of course. and i'm joined in the studio before that by michelle dewberry course, studio before that by michelle de6:00,( course, studio before that by michelle de6:00,( just course, studio before that by michelle de6:00,( just walked course, studio before that by michelle de6:00,( just walked intoyurse, studio before that by michelle de6:00,( just walked into the 3, at 6:00, i just walked into the studio to hear you two grown men talking blowing your didgeridoos. i wondered on earth i've >> i wondered what on earth i've walked into this teatime hour. so i did anyway. yes, on my show there would be no didgeridoo was unfortunately. i don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but we don't . didgeridoo. thing, but we don't. didgeridoo. a didgeridoo, definitely don't. it's a good look, is it? it's not a good look, is it? when you wear this matte lipstick? anyway i want to talk to royal mail, foreign to you about royal mail, foreign workers as well, whether not workers as well, whether or not we making easier or

we should be making it easier or harder companies to employ harder for companies to employ people from overseas . and i want people from overseas. and i want to get stuck into these protests that are taking place outside of mps offices and a lot of mps at the moment are whipping up hatred towards mps. they have the audacity to vote against a ceasefire in gaza or perhaps even abstain from voting at all. so what is the answer to some of this? do we need exclusion zones set up outside of offices, or is it for the course on it just par for the course on their job what? it just par for the course on the well, what? it just par for the course on the well, it what? it just par for the course on the well, it does ? it just par for the course on the well, it does seem to me, >> well, it does seem to me, michel, that it all out without taking a breath. great taking a breath. she'd be great on didgeridoo, rehearsing. on a didgeridoo, rehearsing. >> my breath >> i was practising my breath waiting didgeridoo. after waiting for my didgeridoo. after hours, circular breathing. >> think i think you'd be. >> i think i think you'd be. you'd be a corker at that. so it's co coming up at it's dewbs& co coming up at 6:00. thank you . i'm back. same 6:00. thank you. i'm back. same time tomorrow. three till six. but don't go anywhere . we've got but don't go anywhere. we've got dewbs& co coming right after dewbs& co coming up right after this no didgeridoos, but this break. no didgeridoos, but lots fun to be had . lots of fun to be had. >> hello? it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast east, lot the gb news forecast east, a lot of cloud across the uk today the gb news forecast east, a lot of clyshowersss the uk today the gb news forecast east, a lot of clyshowers continuing)day the gb news forecast east, a lot

of clyshowers continuing inay with showers continuing in places , but it turn drier places, but it does turn drier overnight . tuesday and wednesday overnight. tuesday and wednesday are looking most dry across the uk. we've got the weekend's area of low pressure moving away to the east. high pressure trying to build in from the northwest. but in between a of cloud but in between a lot of cloud across during the across the uk during the evening, further spells of rain or especially or showers especially for eastern down the east eastern scotland down the east coast of england, parts of the midlands, the midlands, wales and the southwest. seeing few southwest. also seeing a few showers time it showers for a time before it turns the end of turns drier later. by the end of the , the cloudy skies and the night, the cloudy skies and the night, the cloudy skies and the showery rain mostly affecting coastal affecting north sea coastal counties. clearer counties. drier and clearer skies elsewhere, especially for scotland and northern ireland, where temperatures some where temperatures in some places to —2 to —4 places will dip to —2 to —4 celsius. so a chilly but bright start for northern ireland and scotland. first thing, plenty of sunshine here early on, a lot of cloud elsewhere , low cloud mist cloud elsewhere, low cloud mist and for east anglia in the and fog for east anglia in the south—east and showery rain south—east and some showery rain continuing here into the afternoon. elsewhere, a afternoon. elsewhere, it's a largely bright to autumn largely dry and bright to autumn day, crisp blue skies. but the sunshine turning hazy across scotland and northern ireland. later as the next system starts

to move in, that will bring breezy and wet conditions for scotland, northern ireland and northern england. during wednesday, a drier and brighter start to the day for the south of the uk . but start to the day for the south of the uk. but even start to the day for the south of the uk . but even here it will of the uk. but even here it will cloud over with some spots of rain thursday , who sees rain later thursday, who sees rain later thursday, who sees rain sinks south, followed by much colder conditions for the end of the week

what should we do about this? when does general protest become intimidation? should there be exclusion zones set up to protect these mps? or are these protests basically par for the course and we know now, don't we, that there are a massive

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