morning. >> it's 930 on wednesday, the 22nd of november. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so back on track that is how the chancellor will be describing the economy and the autumn statement at 12:30 pm. we're going to be building up to that and tax cutting tories, the tories are saying that they're the biggest business tax cuts in 50 years. >> both national insurance and business tax will be reduced . business tax will be reduced. it's all about trying to get economic growth with chin chin. >> jeremy hunt will freeze duty on alcohol and help pubs. we're

going to have experts on hand to preview what it all means and what it will mean for the money in your bank account and the terrible tragedy in snowdonia police searching for the group of missing teenagers recovered the four boys bodies from a crashed car in north wales. >> our reporter theo theo chikomba is in wales. i'll have the latest from gatwick, where nonh the latest from gatwick, where north wales police confirmed that four bodies were found after an extensive search here in north wales. >> really awful story that plus the israeli hostage situation . the israeli hostage situation. the clock is ticking there. we've got covid inquiry and of course , i'm a celebrity. get me course, i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. and nigel farage, it's a great news day. don't go anywhere. we've got a lot to get through. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email as always. the email address. as always. first, though, here's your very

latest ray . latest news with ray. >> very good morning to you. it's just after 9:30. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. israel's published list of 300 palestinians who could be released as part of a deal agreed with the hamas terror group. it was posted by israel's department of justice and includes the name, age and offence of prisoner in offence of each prisoner in a statement, israel said it will release at least 150 palestinians in exchange for 50 hostages held by hamas . the hostages held by hamas. the start of the four day pause that's been agreed is expected to be announced in the next 24 hours. however, the release of every additional ten hostages will extend the pause in fighting by a day . the fighting by a day. the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, has welcomed the temporary break in fighting and has reiterated calls for wider solutions to the conflict. world leaders have also welcomed the news. the us president, joe biden , said it would see biden, said it would see american hostages freed. the

european commission president, ursula von der leyen has promised the bloc will do its utmost best to use the time for a humanitarian surge of aid into gaza. meanwhile, in russia , a gaza. meanwhile, in russia, a spokesperson for the foreign ministry said moscow also welcomes the humanitarian pause . welcomes the humanitarian pause. a community in shropshire is mourning the deaths of four teenage boys in north wales . teenage boys in north wales. jevon hirst harvey owen wilf henderson and hugo morris had set off on a camping trip in the snowdonia area. their bodies were recovered yesterday day after a car was found overturned and partially submerged in water. north wales police is investigating how the car left the road. the force says it appears to have been a tragic accident and tax cuts, investment in the energy sector and getting people back into work are among the measures expected to be announced by the chancellor later. jeremy hunts autumn statement will pitch britains economy being back britains economy as being back on track as he seeks to ease the tax burden from a 70 year. high

and we'll have more on all those stories in our news programmes throughout the day. more right now our website, gbnews.com. now on our website, gbnews.com. now back to andrew and . bev now it's back to andrew and. bev >> very good morning it's 933. we're opening with some really sad news this morning. the four teenagers who disappeared on a weekend camping trip in snowdonia in wales have been found dead after their car was discovered submerged in a river. >> jevon hirst harvey owen wilf henderson and hugo morris. they vanished on that trip to the welsh mountains. went welsh mountains. they went camping. one them didn't even camping. one of them didn't even tell mum where he was going. tell his mum where he was going. she thought was staying with she thought he was staying with his . police his grandfather. police confirmed his grandfather. police confiin ed his grandfather. police confiin garreg, which is where road in garreg, which is where the bodies recovered. the the bodies were recovered. the police it appears to have police say it appears to have been a tragic accident. all four boys at shrewsbury boys were students at shrewsbury college they were doing college and when they were doing their college and when they were doing the that's right. college >> that's right. the college have would like to offer have said we would like to offer our deepest to the our deepest condolences to the family of the four family and friends of the four young tragically in

young men who tragically died in the traffic incident. the suspected traffic incident. this news is truly heartbreaking, and our thoughts go out to those affected by this tragic news. they go and say, we'll be working directly with students and staff who are affected by this terrible accident and have put in place a range of support measures for all of community. all of our community. >> terrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's really awful . and, >> it's really awful. and, you know, but for grace of know, there but for the grace of god go any parents of teenage boys .7 my eldest just turned 20 boys.7 my eldest just turned 20 recently and you can do what you can to stop them making silly decisions in your absence. but there's only so much you can do. and in fact, there was a very similar accident to this at my son's school. just a few years ago. none of the boys lost their lives, but there were very lives, but there were some very serious life changing serious and life changing injuries it. and these kind injuries in it. and these kind of incidents affect the whole community because then the families the families often will blame the others course, you have others and of course, you have the why was your son the anger. why was your son driving too fast? but your son didn't have a seatbelt but didn't have a seatbelt on. but your had had a drink. we all your son had had a drink. we all know the one who is

know your boy is the one who is the he's the trouble the most. he's the trouble causen the most. he's the trouble causer. wouldn't have done causer. he wouldn't have done it without your influence. the reverberations are horrific. >> boys, they're teenagers. >> the boys, they're teenagers. and that's and they went camping. that's what be doing, what boys should be doing, shouldn't mean, shouldn't they? i mean, obviously time. obviously the wrong time. the weather terrible. yeah and weather was terrible. yeah and if confided in the if they had confided in the parents, parents would parents, the parents would probably ain't going. probably say, you ain't going. i know tell them. know why they didn't tell them. >> they didn't tell them. >> why they didn't tell them. and how you ever get rid of that angerin and how you ever get rid of that anger in your that as a anger in your heart that as a mother and a parent, you must be thinking, idiot, you just thinking, you idiot, if you just listen to me, you just done listen to me, if you just done what you know, you should have done, here. done, you would still be here. there be siblings affected. there will be siblings affected. there will be siblings affected. there will be siblings affected. there will grandparents, there will be grandparents, aunfies there will be grandparents, aunties i say, aunties and uncles. as i say, the of these sorts of the tragedy of these sorts of events, four events, when you've got four young is his realm young boys and is his realm common the most dangerous situation? you can put a group of boys into is to be in of teenage boys into is to be in the behind the wheel of a car, inexperienced drivers, probably not long, probably not long passed their driving test. so really, really sad story. >> certainly is . later, of >> certainly is. later, of course, today, the chancellor jeremy hunt, he's going to set out the government's plans for tax and spending. it's in the

autumn statement. national insurance , we're being told, insurance, we're being told, will be duty on alcohol will will be cut duty on alcohol will be frozen. >> that's right . it be frozen. >> that's right. it was announced night the announced last night that the living living wage living the national living wage will increase by almost 10, more than 2 million full time workers are set to benefit from a pay rise of more than £1,500 a year. and they also tell us, of course, they're going to make some of these people who are on benefits get back into work. >> to take a job >> they can have to take a job working from home if necessary, or may may their or they may they may cut their benefits. don't believe a word benefits. i don't believe a word of it. richard is here, who of it. richard tice is here, who is a regular here? of course , is a regular here? of course, and he's the leader of reform uk. we've heard all uk. richard, we've heard all this before about getting the work work . this before about getting the work work. hang work shy back into work. hang on, andrew. >> very good morning. the reality is, a week ago we were being told was no room for being told there was no room for tax cuts. >> w- a and then >> that's true. and then the reality they saw reform uk go reality is they saw reform uk go up in the polls for double digit polls for the first time p for panic has descended into downing street. all of a sudden they've found tens of billions behind the sofa. where's that come

from? i wonder? all of a sudden it's all about tax cuts here. business cuts there. i've business tax cuts there. i've been about this for been talking about this for years. so i'm delighted they're listening to me . years. so i'm delighted they're listening to me. but i years. so i'm delighted they're listening to me . but i frankly, listening to me. but i frankly, i think it's cynical pre—election on gambling . pre—election on gambling. essentially, that's what they're doing, whether or not any of it actually comes out, i've been talking for 18 months about the five over 5 million people are out of work benefits to get those back into work. so yeah , i those back into work. so yeah, i think the chancellor and the prime minister they've been listening what been listening to me. what we've been saying reform. the question saying at reform. the question is any of this is when will any of this actually people want actually happen? people want action not in a couple of action now, not in a couple of years time. that's the point. >> none of this is happening till april at the earliest. so we're going have this we're going to have all this huffing and puffing today day we're going to have all this huff nothing puffing today day we're going to have all this huff nothing tillfing today day we're going to have all this huff nothing till april. day day we're going to have all this huff nothing till april. s0' day we're going to have all this huff nothing till april. so how and nothing till april. so how does kick the does that kick start the economy? how does that kick start? businesses? start? small businesses? >> biggest of >> he's the biggest laugh of it. apparently, chancellor apparently, the chancellor is going and say with a going to stand up and say with a straight face that the conservatives party conservatives are not the party of to reject big of they're going to reject big government, and government, high spending and high tax. they having us all

high tax. are they having us all on, for heaven's sake? i mean, there's exactly what they've done last five years done for the last five years plus we've got the plus highest tax. we've got the highest , the biggest highest tax burden, the biggest government, the greatest level of waste , the highest level of of waste, the highest level of government spending . and here's government spending. and here's the thing. i don't think they're going to talk about cutting government at all. government spending at all. apparently, going apparently, there's going to be benefits going to be benefits are going to be increased by about just under 7. remember that is a post tax number. so for someone who's in work, that's the equivalent of an extra 20% plus. so that's that's well over 8% increase for those on benefits. that's not exactly an incentive to get you off your backside and back into work. >> and inflation has been cut to 4.6. credit where it's due. they've got it down quite sharply. so energy prices got that down, not them. but why are they not raising in line with inflation? why are they giving it they're going to raise it 6.7? they're going to raise benefits it 6.7? they're going to raise benefit inexplicable. you can't >> it's inexplicable. you can't encourage people into work, encourage people back into work, back if you're going to back to work if you're going to actually dramatically increase the amount they're going to the amount that they're going to be. paid on be. they're going to be paid on

a net post tax basis. it makes no sense whatsoever. i just think the whole thing is complete and utter panic as they collapse in the polls. >> what would you richard? >> what would you do, richard? what make what would reform do to make sure that most people had more money pocket? money in our pocket? >> there's very >> there's one very simple thing, idea thing, and this idea of increasing minimum wage increasing the minimum wage sounds on but sounds great on paper. but remember , they're all going to remember, they're all going to be that. what you be taxed on that. what you should do is you should lift the starting at which pay starting point at which you pay any income tax from 12.5 grand that this government has frozen any income tax from 12.5 grand thayears government has frozen any income tax from 12.5 grand thayears govewantst has frozen any income tax from 12.5 grand tha years govewants t hfreeze en for years and wants to freeze for years and wants to freeze for many more years. keep an eye on that from that to 20,000 a yean on that from that to 20,000 a year, transforms the whole year, that transforms the whole landscape for everybody on low incomes, all of us. that's £30 a week. that's real cash to help pay week. that's real cash to help pay for all left wing than jeremy corbyn. no, it's not. it is. no, it's exactly the opposite. what's happened to you, for heaven's sake. you, pearce, for heaven's sake. honestly, that's. that's encouraging people their encouraging people to have their own in their own pocket own money in their own pocket that they can then make the choices, do you choices, how they spend. do you think a that's a think that's a that's that's a sensible thing to do about who would by that? would be affected by that? >> sure can all think of

>> i'm sure we can all think of people our who might be people in our life who might be just working part time, who don't earn huge amount because don't earn a huge amount because they a job the side they just want a job on the side or you know, all young people actually. so i'm thinking about my who will who is my son who who will who is earning £20,000 a year earning less than £20,000 a year and his payslip and he and then sees his payslip and he can't paying how can't believe he's paying how little at the end of the little he gets at the end of the month, he's paying tax that will make a big difference for him. >> it free up >> it's massive. it will free up 6 million yeah. 6 million people. yeah. therefore you me, free therefore you and me, it'll free up 6 million from up over 6 million people from paying up over 6 million people from paying tax paying any income tax whatsoever. that's transformational. absolutely transformational. absolutely trarand�*national. transformational. absolutely trarand�*nationalthe revenue back >> and you get the revenue back because earning their earnings. what happens earn it, >> what happens is they earn it, they it . so it they spend it. so it reverberates around the economy. yeah, the way through you yeah, all the way through you get what they call get huge what they call a multiplier effect out of like 60. >> what if they do that, richard and nick, idea . and nick, your idea. >> i'm about what's >> i'm it's i'm about what's right for the country. i'll be delighted. i'll be singing from the rooftops. they're listening delighted. i'll be singing from the ro

>> would reform do with >> what would reform do with their tax situation? >> so when we some growth in >> so when we get some growth in the economy, likewise, you've got the threshold got to lift the tax threshold for high earners, which has been frozen at around about the £50,000 people, £50,000 mark. so many people, particularly people in some of the public sector, whether it's nurses, it's doctors , nurses, whether it's doctors, teachers been all of a teachers have been all of a sudden they thought, hang on, how be a higher rate tax how can i be a higher rate tax payer? i don't feel it. so you've got to lift that threshold. this the threshold. this is the government has frozen those government that has frozen those tax thresholds therefore, tax thresholds and therefore, it's a hidden it's like it's like a hidden stealth round back door. stealth tax round the back door. they been honest enough they haven't been honest enough to in the front door. to do it in the front door. if they'd allowances, they'd uprated those allowances, richard, you'd be kicking the £0.40 tax. >> it would be kicking in. when you're like £77,000 you're earning more like £77,000 a absolutely right. and we've >> absolutely right. and we've been for a very been talking this for a very long time indeed. this idea they're to sort of give a they're going to sort of give a huge cut to businesses, what huge tax cut to businesses, what they allow full expensing they call allow full expensing that can be useful. but the truth is that's really truth is that's only really going help big business. it's going to help big business. it's not going to help small, medium sized businesses who are business rates. that's taking

huge risks. >> don't they need to take up on business rates? >> don't business rates and corporation something corporation tax and do something thing street ? thing to help the high street? >> right. so business rates have buildings and all and i've been i've been banging on for a couple of years that you should scrap business rates on the scrap all business rates on the high small medium high street for small and medium sized and have sized businesses and have a small tax on the big small delivery tax on the big delivery amazons, delivery companies the amazons, the ebay's, the big logistics, 2 or 3. >> all of a sudden you're starting to try to level the playing field a bit. not easy, but money talks. you've got to do something. otherwise, our high are collapsing high streets are collapsing everywhere. you're everywhere. and all you're seeing, frankly, is barber shops and and tattoo parlours. >> george osborne talked about doing when was doing that when he was chancellor. did sooner. why chancellor. so did sooner. why don't it? why are they don't they do it? why are they scared companies like amazon? scared of companies like amazon? >> you think? >> why do you think? >> why do you think? >> think they're >> because they think they're going clear off go going to clear off and go somewhere else. >> either that or is it maybe possibly big donations into the into these into the parties? i mean, these political be political parties, it would be such winner? well, of such a vote winner? well, of course it would. maybe that's why they're not it. they why they're not doing it. they need cash. i don't know. but

need the cash. i don't know. but it's just common sense. and there of that there seems to be a lack of that at moment. so, yeah, i think at the moment. so, yeah, i think this stuff is really important because we've got to get some growth back the economy, growth back into the economy, focus growth numbers. growth back into the economy, focueconomy growth numbers. growth back into the economy, focu economy isjrowth numbers. growth back into the economy, focu economy is absolutely bers. the economy is absolutely flatlining. the obr might say might might might be saying that it might sort recession sort of drift into recession next every risk that, next year. every risk of that, the only blessing, is the only blessing, frankly, is that we're doing than that we're doing better than our colleagues channel colleagues across the channel where the eurozone is basically in recession and heading south. you've to cut taxes and you've got to cut taxes and you've got cut spending . you've got to cut spending. listen to or not he listen to whether or not he talks about cutting any spending. doubt it. spending. i doubt it. >> let you go, david >> before we let you go, david cameron made his maiden speech in the lords. lord, lord cameron. we tap our cameron. yes, we tap our forelock he talked about the forelock and he talked about the advantages new trans advantages of the new trans pacific been struck. pacific deal that's been struck. he manage not to mention he did manage not to mention brexit or the fact that this deal only been done because deal has only been done because it's even worse than that. >> already heard that he's >> i've already heard that he's instructed civil instructed his his civil servants get closer to their servants to get closer to their counterparts in brussels, particularly particularly as i touched on last night with regard to defence cooperation

amongst the with the sort of the command and control centres. so i'm very, very watchful of what's going on there. i think cameron is not good news for this country. >> i quite with you. >> i quite agree with you. >> i quite agree with you. >> all let's carry on. >> all right, let's carry on. looking forward this autumn looking forward to this autumn statement. richard. statement. thank you, richard. don't joined don't go anywhere. we're joined by money magpie, by founder of money magpie, jasmine birtles. jasmine, to great lovely to you great see you. lovely to see you . enough? we're . and is this enough? we're going be getting from jeremy going to be getting from jeremy hunt today to restore our faith in the conservatives being the party of the pound . and. party of the pound. and. >> well, i hope so. i mean, like like richard tice. i very much think that we should wake up the bafic think that we should wake up the basic amount that you can earn until you pay tax. so at the moment, as you as we said, it's 12,500 pounds. i agree 18,000, £20,000 i think should be the time where you start to pay tax. also so businesses are needing to hear some good news from the chancellor as you've mentioned, beverley , there's a big problem beverley, there's a big problem on the high street and what i'm heanng on the high street and what i'm hearing from small businesses

particularly is that they want to have the vat threshold massively increased. so yeah, i would like to see help for businesses , particularly small businesses, particularly small businesses, particularly small businesses , and i would like to businesses, and i would like to see some serious tax cuts because as richard mentioned , we because as richard mentioned, we are staring down the barrel of a recession. and i think it's s more important to consider that than it is to consider inflation at this stage. >> jasmine, when you talk about vat, when you say the threshold being raised, you mean at the point at which your revenue and your income and your your income is such and your business that you pay vat? but what the that we are what about the vat that we are charging charged on meals in restaurants kind thing? restaurants, that kind of thing? because makes a huge impact because that makes a huge impact on your bill and is therefore affecting the hospitality industry . absolutely industry. absolutely >> yes. i mean, frankly, i'd like to see that cut. as you say , at the moment, we're paying 20, 20% sales tax, vat is sales tax. if that were brought down to 17.5, which is what it was

for a while , then that would for a while, then that would make a big, big difference to how much we can spend. it would definitely , i think, kick start definitely, i think, kick start the economy . and you know, the the economy. and you know, the paradoxical about cutting taxes , paradoxical about cutting taxes, particularly income tax , is that particularly income tax, is that the government tends to have a higher tax take because when you know, as you said, you know, when people earn more, when they they're allowed to keep more of they're allowed to keep more of the money they've earned, tend to work with more of a will, we do have a really big problem productivity in this country. so anything that would make us work more productively, work more , more productively, work more, you know, is in my view, a good thing and will actually bring more money into the coffers . more money into the coffers. >> how how difficult is it still out there, yasmin, in the cost of living crisis for the average family? it's still very difficult, isn't life at the moment? >> yes , it really is. >> yes, it really is. >> yes, it really is. >> i mean, if you had your gas and electricity bill recently, you'll have thought, what the

heck, you know , we were supposed heck, you know, we were supposed to be seeing lower amounts, but actually it's higher . so we've actually it's higher. so we've got that problem. petrol is very expensive . food is still very expensive. food is still very expensive. food is still very expensive . so yeah, our expensive. so yeah, our suffering definitely they're going to freeze . going to freeze. >> they're going to freeze alcohol duty , which gets them a alcohol duty, which gets them a cheap headline in the sun and daily mirror. but that's not going to do much for pubs, which are closing. i think what the rate of 100 a month. yeah absolutely. >> and there again, the vat is an issue for them and certainly mean they're not going to be too pleased with the rise in the bafic pleased with the rise in the basic rate in the lowest pay . i basic rate in the lowest pay. i mean i'm personally pro that even though i am an employer myself. but i am in favour of increasing the minimum wage. the living wage. i think it's more something that businesses need to pay rather than government because in the past when you had very low minimum wages, the government had to step in and

help with the various benefits tax cuts, etcetera, and tax credits , etcetera. but i think credits, etcetera. but i think it is better for businesses to pay- it is better for businesses to pay. i mean, that's the idea of working. you should be able to working. you should be able to work and be able to pay for things, but businesses like , as things, but businesses like, as you say, pubs, high street shops, small businesses , the shops, small businesses, the higher minimum wage is going to be an issue for them . and so be an issue for them. and so i would like to see that they're going to get help with vat taxes , other aspects of running a small business. >> jasmine, do you hear anything from the shadow chancellor rachel reeves, that makes you think that labour would offer any better for business landscape , for small business landscape, for small business owners ? owners? >> sadly, no , no, no. and it's >> sadly, no, no, no. and it's a weird thing and it doesn't seem to me that that the labour likes small businesses. it seems to like service and very big businesses . they seem quite

businesses. they seem quite happy with the amazons, etcetera . i don't know why it is because as they should be, they should be pro small businesses, frankly , any government, any party should be pro small businesses because small businesses are the backbone of british. you know, we make up i say we i'm a small business as well. we make up about 90% of the economy. well i say the economy. the employer in this country. so really small businesses should be put up on a pinnacle by any party, any government. they should be doing everything they can to support small . everything they can to support small. business and make it more possible for them to make a profit . profit. >> quite right. >> quite right. >> okay. thank you, jasmine. jasmine birtles there from money magpie. now, some awful news. >> now. the camping trip that went horribly wrong. the four teenagers who disappeared on that to snowdonia wales that trip to snowdonia in wales have found dead after their that trip to snowdonia in wales havwas found dead after their that trip to snowdonia in wales havwas discoveredaad after their that trip to snowdonia in wales havwas discovered submerged air that trip to snowdonia in wales havwas discovered submerged in car was discovered submerged in

a river. so joining us now is gb news reporter theo theo chikomba, is in greg, i chikomba, who is in greg, i believe it's pronounced . believe it's pronounced. >> good morning, theo . oh, it >> good morning, theo. oh, it must be a terrible , sombre mood must be a terrible, sombre mood there this morning . have we had there this morning. have we had much reaction from the families and from the school that these boys all attended ? boys all attended? >> yes. well, a very good morning to you both. you're absolutely right. it's been a sombre moment, not only for the families who are affected by this, but the community here. around 400 people live in this area of garreg in north wales. now now, the police yesterday confirmed just after 430 in the late afternoon that four bodies were found following an extensive search of four teenagers who have travelled to this area over the weekend. and in the last couple of hours we've heard from the mother, crystal owen, who's harvey's , crystal owen, who's harvey's, who have harvey owen's mother.

she said, i feel like i'm in a nightmare. i wish i could wake up from, but i'm not. and she went on to say, i just wanted to say i do appreciate people's kindness, but no amount of messages is going to help me overcome this. nothing will make this nightmare go away. now, she posted this on her business's facebook page. she operates a cupcake shop over in shrewsbury and of course, as you can imagine, that other parents as well will be going through this difficult time following that confirmation yesterday. we've also heard from the shrewsbury college that the young boys attended and they have also passed on their condolences to the family. now, of course , the the family. now, of course, the community here is still coming to terms with what has happened. the road has reopened. there's no longer a police presence in this area, but officers do say the car appeared to have come off the road and onto the side

and the car was found following and the car was found following a tip off yesterday . that from a tip off yesterday. that from from a local resident who lives in this area. and the car was found a partially submerged out in water. and just finally , in water. and just finally, police have said that they ask that they asked the family of these boys are afforded privacy at this desperate time . at this desperate time. >> okay. thank you, theo chikomba . just a reaction from chikomba. just a reaction from you, richard. you've got teenagers now or actually, no , teenagers now or actually, no, they're old 20s. >> i mean, this is everybody's worst nightmare. and i actually remember , you know, with with remember, you know, with with our children's mum, just those discussions happens about who can drive when with whom you go through that difficult judgements. youngsters keen to become adults to get on go out. part of growing up and it's just utterly heartbreaking and there's no right or wrongs to it. it's i'm afraid to say it's just the worst, most awful luck in the world. yeah. it really is

just appalling. split second judgements in the best intent gone disastrously wrong. absolutely. >> very quickly, we've only got 30s. how do you think nigel farage is doing? >> oh, isn't he doing brilliantly? absolutely. i mean, he's revealing everything absolutely marvellous. >> well, did we >> everything. well, did we expect backside quite expect to see his backside quite so soon? >> i think reality is that >> i think the reality is that people seeing the true nigel people are seeing the true nigel in every sense of the word. and i think from everything i'm hearing, what they hearing, people like what they see. i think. >> w- see. i think. >> so. all right. >> let's hope so. all right. thank you so much, richard. right. we're going to be discussing covid inquiry. discussing the covid inquiry. what was said yesterday, what might this might be said today. this is britain's newsroom. good morning. >> welcome your latest gb >> welcome to your latest gb news update. with me, news weather update. with me, annie the office it'll annie from the met office it'll be cloudier day for many of be a cloudier day for many of us. there'll rain in the us. there'll be some rain in the north, but there'll still be some sunshine on offer across southern we've got off southern areas. so we've got off to a slightly and damper southern areas. so we've got off to a �*across' and damper southern areas. so we've got off to a �*across parts and damper southern areas. so we've got off to a �*across parts of and damper southern areas. so we've got off to a �*across parts of scotland,er start across parts of scotland, northern england as well . that northern england as well. that rain will persist, particularly in the north, but it will dry up across the pennines. we'll also see of weather across see plenty of dry weather across the england and wales. the bulk of england and wales. some developing by this

some sunshine developing by this afternoon again. so afternoon once again. so a similar feel to yesterday. by later on this afternoon, highs of around 12 degrees. it'll also be as as around 14 degrees be as high as around 14 degrees across eastern of scotland across eastern areas of scotland . despite the and cloud . despite the rain and cloud here. then through this evening, it stays fairly cloudy across the board. the rain will start to pep up, though, across the far north of scotland as that front starts to finally make its progress southwards . so progress southwards. so particularly across the shetland isles, it's turn quite isles, it's going to turn quite blustery and wintry up there across the south, though, staying cloudy a little bit murkier than last night with only lows of around 11 degrees for some towns and cities down here. so a milder start tomorrow. the rain will then shift throughout thursday further south with that cold air becoming more widely spread as we head into friday from the north. so we've got some wintry showers starting to fall across the hills of scotland and we could see some overnight frost over the weekend . and in over the weekend. and in southern areas . but on thursday, southern areas. but on thursday, highs will be around average of

12 degrees. >> thanks, a&e. still to come, israel and hamas have agreed to a four day truce which will see the release of 50 women and children held captive in gaza in exchange for 150 palestinian women children held in women and children held in israeli jails. this is britain's newsroom on

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>> it's not just me and eamonn. >> we want to get to know you and we want you to get to know us from 6:00. it's breakfast with eamonn isabel to with eamonn and isabel monday to thursdays on gb news, britain's news channel . 10:00 on news channel. 10:00 on wednesday, the 22nd of november. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, back on track. that's what the chancellor will how the chancellor will describe the economy in the autumn statement, which p.m. which starts around 12:30 pm. our editor chris hope our political editor chris hope is in downing street . is in downing street. >> i'm in downing street where the cabinet has signed off the autumn statement. they're very happy with when they left, but what's wait and . see >> we're at a coffee shop in stockport where we'll be waiting to see exactly how the autumn statement will be affecting families .

statement will be affecting families. here how the chief medical officer, professor, professor chris whitty, described the government's intervention during the initial coronavirus outbreak. >> not everybody agrees . >> not everybody agrees. >> not everybody agrees. >> and the risk of going too late, in which case you get all the problems of the pandemic running away. my view is, with the benefit of hindsight, we went a bit too late on the first wave . wave. and you know, we're going to be talking to molly kingsley about the covid inquiry. >> jonathan van—tam is there today. there was a very interesting exchange between chris and hugo keith chris whitty and hugo keith about risk assessment, absolute risk versus relative risk. we're going to be explaining why that was so significant. let us know your thoughts morning. your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. and i think theo chikomba our reporter down in wales is going to be bringing us the latest from the village

there. learning the death of there. learning of the death of those poor teenage boys and those four poor teenage boys and their families grieving this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com their families grieving this moremail3bviews@gbnews.com their families grieving this moremail address..>gbnews.com their families grieving this moremail address. firstews.com their families grieving this moremail address. first though, the email address. first though, here's your very latest news with armstrong . very good with our an armstrong. very good morning to you. >> it'sjust morning to you. >> it's just after 10:00 aaron armstrong in the newsroom . armstrong in the newsroom. israel has published a list of 300 palestinians who could be released as part of a deal with the hamas terrorist terror group. it includes the name, age and offence of each prisoner. in and offence of each prisoner. in a statement, israel said it will release at least 150 palestine nians. in exchange for 50 hostages held by hamas after the two sides agreed to a four day pause. it's expected to start in the next 24 hours. however, the release of every additional ten hostages will extend the pause by a day . the palestinian by a day. the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, has welcomed the temporary break in fighting and has reiterated calls for wider solutions to the conflict and world leaders have also praised the deal.

conflict and world leaders have also praised the deal . the conflict and world leaders have also praised the deal. the us president, joe biden, said it should see further american hostages freed. the european commission president, ursula von der leyen has promised the bloc will do its utmost not to use the time for a humanitarian surge of aid into gaza. meanwhile, in russia, a spokesperson for the foreign ministry said moscow also welcomes the humanitarian pause . welcomes the humanitarian pause. the home town of four teenage boys who died in north wales has cancelled tonight's switching on of the christmas lights out of respect for the families given hurst, harvey owen will fitchett and hugo morris had set off on a camping trip in the snowdonia area. their bodies were recovered yesterday after a car was found overturned and partially submerged in water. nonh partially submerged in water. north wales police is investigating how the car left the road. the force says it appears to have been a tragic accident . shrewsbury town accident. shrewsbury town council have called it a terrible tragedy . tax cuts, terrible tragedy. tax cuts, investment in the energy sector and getting people back into

work are among the measures expected to be announced by the chancellor later. jeremy hunts autumn statement will pitch britain's economy as being back on track as he seeks to ease the tax burden from a 70 year high. chair of the commons treasury committee , harriet baldwin, says committee, harriet baldwin, says the statement is about getting britain moving . britain moving. >> well, i think it is going to be a real turning point today in terms of the autumn statement because if you cast your mind back to a year ago, inflation was running over 11. now we've got a backdrop of it having fallen to 4.6. and the bank of england forecast saying that it'll fall further next year . it'll fall further next year. and so that's a backdrop where jeremy hunt, who had to raise taxes last year , can look taxes last year, can look actually at giving some of that back to the hard working people of the uk . of the uk. >> however, the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, says today's announcement won't be enough to change britain's economic tide . change britain's economic tide. >> on every measure on the

economic dashboard for our country , whether inflation and country, whether inflation and the cost of living, the amount of tax people are paying , the of tax people are paying, the amount of debt the country is in, the quality of our public services whether people at services and whether people at home better off after the home feel better off after the last 13 years under the tories or not. it's just red lights across the dashboard. it's 13 years budget years of failure and the budget today is going to be able to today is not going to be able to do anywhere near enough to turn that around de—man be that around for de—man will be sentenced later the murder that around for de—man will be sent�*28ed later the murder that around for de—man will be sent�*28 yearter the murder that around for de—man will be sent�*28 year old the murder that around for de—man will be sent�*28 year old woman nurder that around for de—man will be sent�*28 year old woman inrder liverpool. >> ashley dale was killed when james witham forced his way into her home opened fire with a her home and opened fire with a machine he and machine gun. he and co—defendants joseph peers nalbari and shaun joyce were found guilty of murder and conspiracy to murder. ms dale's partner , witham told the jury he partner, witham told the jury he believed the house was empty at the time and he'd intended to send a warning to ms dale's partner, who he claimed was stealing drug customers . the co stealing drug customers. the co founder of the tech company openai , has returned its s ceo openai, has returned its s ceo just days after he was ousted in a bizarre turn around. sam

altman lost his position on friday after the company's board said he hadn't been candid with them. his departure triggered an open letter from 500 members of staff who threatened to resign unless he was reinstated. he quickly accepted a new position with microsoft, who have a partnership with openai, and he'll now return to his previous role as part of an agreement in principle and around a third of brits have admitted to working in their pyjamas. brits have admitted to working in their pyjamas . a survey from in their pyjamas. a survey from indie found around 33% of workers do wear pyjamas during shift hours. employees dress in their nightwear 46 days a year on average , with 1 in 12 wearing on average, with 1 in 12 wearing pyjamas every day. and nearly half of the bosses surveyed said staff have become too casual since the pandemic, which they blame on too much working from home. so if you're in your pyjamas now, go on, get changed. that's it for me for the moment. now it is back to andrew and .

bev >> i don't wear pyjamas ever. >> i don't wear pyjamas ever. >> what do you wear? >> what do you wear? >> nothing . >> nothing. >> nothing. >> i feel like people got to know you a lot better. >> most people not. where do you wear pyjamas? >> okay. i normally wear nothing but i have a lovely fleecy a wincey nightie that i bought from tkmaxx, which my boyfriend cannot bear. and so when he's away is when he's away. i get into my fleecy onesie at night. it's my favourite night wear. there we are. you see? i wish you hadn't asked. >> are we going to get lots of messages now about ladies night? >> now, then , what? what have >> now, then, what? what have you been saying at home? if the government and the civil service cut their massive spending, then there would be a lot more money in coffers, says peter. in the coffers, says peter. >> bob says, that >> and bob says, why is that still 20? started at 15, then still 20? it started at 15, then up to 17.5. now 20. it should be reduced now, but it won't be, bob, because they'll say that's

inflationary. going to inflationary. we're going to also put money in your also put more money in your pocket. and we're going to also put more money in your po> and they've been wrestling with for years with this dilemma for years about to get people about how to get people back into because benefits for into work because benefits for some more some families it's more advantageous financially stay advantageous financially to stay on is crazy. on benefits, which is crazy. >> never should be more >> it never should be more advantageous work than work. >> and there's what nearly is it 5 million people on benefits. it's crazy. it's crazy. why

>> because working is good for you. it makes you feel good. it gives you a purpose, doesn't it? i know. we're lucky we have a cushy job. yeah but cushy job. yeah. yeah but actually, just getting up and having purpose the morning, having a purpose in the morning, it's just proven to improve it's been just proven to improve health and mental wellbeing as well. health and mental wellbeing as weland is what ian duncan >> and this is what ian duncan smith , a tank, has been smith, a think tank, has been working on for years. csj, csj because, you know, families because, you know, some families have never worked well. we're going the autumn going to get the autumn statement at about 1230. we know that pretty certain that we're pretty certain national insurance will be cut. let's talk political let's talk to our political edhon let's talk to our political editor, who is in editor, chris hope, who is in downing street . downing street. chris >> andrew, morning. hello. yes in about 20 minutes time, the chancellor jeremy in about 20 minutes time, the chancellorjeremy hunt, will chancellor jeremy hunt, will emerge from the door behind me in 11 downing street. and with we saw earlier the cabinet signing off on the autumn statement . lots of smiles as statement. lots of smiles as they left. i was asking them, is it time tax cuts for brits

it time for tax cuts for brits and for gb news viewers and got gnns and for gb news viewers and got grins from all of them, really. even alister jack, the scottish secretary of boris johnson , said secretary of boris johnson, said to me, just wait and be patient. so i think we are going to see some tax cuts in terms of cuts in national insurance, probably one p maybe off that. that's reversing. actually. don't forget an increase in national insurance brought in by george osborne in 2011, bringing it back it was under the back to where it was under the labour government back labour government where it back in the in the in the in the noughfies in the in the in the in the noughties elsewhere. we'll see maybe 100 measures to boost growth. we're going to see full expensing for businesses to opt to off their their tax bills to way off their their tax bills against investment that will help manufacturers i think help manufacturers. so i think it's be quite a booster it's going to be quite a booster ish autumn statement is trussonomics back? well, what the difference here is the obr, the difference here is the obr, the office for public for budget responsibility is saying there is headroom for limited tax cuts, and that's given mr hunt and mr sunak the opportunity to try and show their tory tax cutting core, which so far has

been absent for the past year. >> the issue with the days like this, chris, for government is not only outlining laying out the policy, but how that is communicated to the public in a positive way and how it lands with the public in a positive way. the pushing water uphill at the moment, the conservatives i don't have an awful lot of faith that this is going to be received positively on the front pages tomorrow. do you ? pages tomorrow. do you? >> well, i think it might do. i think if they take off one p off of off national insurance, that thatis of off national insurance, that that is a big cost to the to the exchequer . £5 billion less in exchequer. £5 billion less in tax going to the exchequer more into our viewers pockets . so into our viewers pockets. so thatis into our viewers pockets. so that is these are small numbers don't forget because the big issue is they've kept these tax thresholds unchanged . and so far thresholds unchanged. and so far we've seen nurses and middle managers , doctors, people who managers, doctors, people who shouldn't really be paying the higher rate of tax paying the

higher rate of tax paying the higher rate of tax. and that's what is crippling because of inflation pushed people inflation has pushed many people into bracket as pay into that tax bracket as pay has gone so we'll wait and see. gone up. so we'll wait and see. they are hoping that it can shift the dial. they've got to do something. the tory party, as you suggest, they're 20 points behind the polls. have behind in the polls. there have been ever since rishi sunak was appointed prime minister by appointed as prime minister by his mps, just over a year his own mps, just over a year ago. they've got to do something to move that dial and so far nothing worked we're nothing has worked and we're approaching the general election. really feels election. so this really feels to the last throw of the to me like the last throw of the dice for the tory party and trying on terms with laboun >> all right. that's chris hope in downing street and he'll keep us posted as the day progresses. we'll join now david mellor, we'll join now by david mellor, well known to this program, former secretary to the former chief secretary to the treasury david morning to you. you've been in this position many there anything many times. is there anything now the conservatives can do this late in the political cycle to try to transform their electoral position? they are so far behind in the polls and the

tory conference didn't change anything. the king's speech didn't change anything. can this do it ? do it? >> well, i believe in the power of prayer. i think the power of prayer is what this government is desperate . i find it no , i is desperate. i find it no, i mean, this is a positive thought. the power of prayer. what isn't very positive are the facts . the trouble with this facts. the trouble with this government is that it has not delivered on fundamental tory principles which involve , of principles which involve, of course, cutting public expenditure, making savings on the way in which the country is run, and then handing the benefit of those savings back to the public effectively by giving them a chance to share the fruits of the government's efficient kc well, what efficiency ? see, i mean, look, efficiency? see, i mean, look, it gives me no pleasure knocking

this government, but it's hard to know what else you can. what else you can do. i mean, when i was chief secretary, this was coincidental, but i'm going to take the benefit of it. we were able to put the amount of money that the percentage of national wealth that was taken by the state out to the lowest ever level. it's gone back up by ten points since that time . and this points since that time. and this government has pushed up tax more than any other government. labour or conservative. now this makes the task of this government very difficult because of course, in the old days, i'm not going to say the good old days. you i'll leave you to make your mind up whether they were good old days or not. people could say, hi , tax labour people could say, hi, tax labour back had low tax tory good and that was , you know, the art of

that was, you know, the art of politics surely is to whistle a tune that the public can hum. what can a public hum about this when tax is at the highest level it has been for the 70 years? this is a shameful record . now this is a shameful record. now who knows what the labour party would do? who knows all these skilled people in the conservative central office will be persuading people that however bad this government has been , the labour party would be been, the labour party would be worse. but i think it's a very, very, very bad outlook for the government because , you know, i government because, you know, i was a barrister once and you know , you did your best with the know, you did your best with the case that you've got, but i think i'd have wanted a very large brief to defend this government about its economic efficiency and effectiveness because it has been dismal for most of the time. and most of the outcomes are worse than any

tory government has achieved in many decades . many decades. >> can we ask you about that, david? so we've got record levels of taxation, we've got record levels of public spending and if you ask most people, they will say services are terrible. we're not even getting any return on this huge public spending . nothing seems to work spending. nothing seems to work is a phrase you hear from so many people . many people. >> yes, i'm afraid that is true, because it's not just a question of how much money they spend. it's a question of what they do with it. i mean, i hate myself sitting here, you know, and god hasn't been too bad for me. so what you've done all right, mate . but the reality is , i do not . but the reality is, i do not believe that this i think mrs. thatcher were to return on heaven knows what she'd do to her hairdo. i could see her ripping it out at the roots because this is not a government thatis because this is not a government that is a thatcherite government at all and it needs to be a

thatcherite government to be effective . but then you've got effective. but then you've got the problem . rishi sunak bless the problem. rishi sunak bless his heart. he's a gifted man, but very, very inexperienced . but very, very inexperienced. and jeremy hunt were about to see wandering through that door. i'm sure he knows the way out. at least i hope he does. and basically jeremy hunt has never, ever spent a moment in the treasury except when he became chancellor if you've got to sort of hope that god is being good to him because you can't see his experience getting him through all of this . all of this. >> okay. thank you, david david mellor, there for now. with us in the studio is gb news economics editor. liam halligan. just the person i want to see on a day like this, you know, to make a man feel good. bev honestly, i look into your eyes and i know it's all going to be okay in a winter yet. >> 90. is it all? >> can we drop my winter yet? 90. is it all? >> i've seen her in her rollers. >> i've seen her in her rollers.

>> is it all going to be okay? liam i've done today. is it going to okay? can you behave yourself? >> jean alexander. what an actor she wasn't she? amazing she was. wasn't she? amazing >> we've got a government who is who sort of measuring up, who is sort of measuring up, kind electoral who is sort of measuring up, kind versus electoral who is sort of measuring up, kind versus potentialal benefits versus potential inflation that inflation pressures. is that fair say, because they're fair to say, because they're taking inflation taking claim for this inflation going can't really going down, they can't really take credit. they've done a massive ferret, we massive reverse ferret, as we say journalism. massive reverse ferret, as we sayyou ournalism. massive reverse ferret, as we sayyou know, sm. massive reverse ferret, as we sayyou know, three weeks ago, it >> you know, three weeks ago, it was to talk about was irresponsible to talk about tax cuts. they were quotes, impossible, chancellor impossible, said the chancellor and suddenly they're nailed and now suddenly they're nailed on their inevitable. they're the responsible thing to do. you know, they're going for liz truss? yeah except that they're bringing the office for budget responsibility with them rather than their nose at the than thumbing their nose at the budget for response office for budget for response office for budget responsibility. >> where is this new expression? financial from ? this is >> where is this new expression? finebuzz from ? this is >> where is this new expression? finebuzz phrase. from ? this is >> where is this new expression? finebuzz phrase. lynnom ? this is >> where is this new expression? finebuzz phrase. lynn what this is >> where is this new expression? finebuzz phrase. lynn what does; the buzz phrase. lynn what does it reminds me of headroom. >> reminds me of max headroom. crikey a nostalgic look. look crikey on a nostalgic look. look financial headroom been financial headroom has been a phrase in economics since i did my a—level economics in the late 19805. my a—level economics in the late 1980s. i'm older than i look. um

but in the end, andrew, it's nonsense. all it means is that the obr over estimated borrowing. yeah so now we've, we've just borrowed more in october than pretty much any other october on record. but we didn't borrow quite as much as the massively pessimistic office for budget responsibility said we would borrow. so it's not like we've got more money, it's just we're going to be a bit less in the hole than we were in debt that we thought we were going to be. >> so it's a modelling error. >> so it's a modelling error. >> it's a modelling error. it's a a cliche alert. okay. a bit of a cliche alert. okay. don't don't at me. it's a bit like you see some shoes on sale, right? you think , crikey, right? and you think, crikey, those shoes were £400. now they're only £300. i've made £100. yeah. and then you put the shoes in the back of the wardrobe and you don't wear them. right. i mean this is, it's mad housekeeping . any it's mad housekeeping. any house, any household that ran its finances like this would be insolvent and the kids wouldn't

get fed because there'd be no. >> is this going to kick into higher inflation again? >> could kick into higher >> it could kick into higher inflation. depends tax inflation. it depends what tax cut they do a tax cut they do. if they do a tax cut they do. if they do a tax cut on business, that's unlikely to be inflationary. extending full expensing so businesses can offset their investors rents against their partly against their corporation tax if they do a national insurance cut or they or they raise the threshold where national insurance or tax income tax starts. yeah, that affects 28 million people, including, you know , almost all including, you know, almost all low income workers who instantly pretty much spend any extra money. they get . so i can't see money. they get. so i can't see how that isn't inflationary . it how that isn't inflationary. it might not lead to big inflation. it depends what happens with energy prices, all the rest of it. certainly will juice up it. but certainly will juice up demand economy, as will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the d economy, as will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the way, economy, as will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the way, this conomy, as will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the way, this increase as will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the way, this increase in will, it. but certainly will juice up de|the way, this increase in the ., by the way, this increase in the minimum wage, massive increase, massive increase in the minimum minimum wage, massive increase, massi�*theicrease in the minimum minimum wage, massive increase, massi�*the government's�*ninimum minimum wage, massive increase, massi�*the government's like num wage. the government's like announcing increases in the minimum because they can minimum wage because they can take business pays. take credit. but business pays. yeah, . yeah, right. >> you've got a busy day ahead

of you, liam halligan. so we're going let you go for now. going to let you go for now. thank you much, still thank you so much, though. still to morning, covid to come this morning, the covid inquiry it feels like it's gone on on. think we've got on and on. i think we've got another started, another about 4 or years this, i believe, or 5 years of this, i believe, to go through. but will there be any left at the end of it? any trust left at the end of it? we're be talking to we're going to be talking to molly

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news as. 1024 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so professor sir chris whitty, sir chris whitty, the chief medical officer for england , is giving evidence at england, is giving evidence at the uk covid inquiry. yes today he gave his perspective on the government response to the first covid wave in 2020. >> it's very aware that we essentially had two different things. we were trying to balance the risk of going too early, in which case you get all the damages from this with actually fairly minimal impact on the epidemic and the risk of going too late, in which case you get all the problems of the pandemic running away. now, as we, i'm sure, come to on my view is with the benefit of hindsight , we went a bit too late on the first wave, and yet he was the one who was worried about lockdown at all because he was worried about the impact on mental health and in mental health and kids in schools . schools. >> w- schools. >> but not enough. let's >> he was, but not enough. let's go the co—founder of us go now to the co—founder of us for and co—author of for them and co—author of accountability molly accountability deficit, molly kingsley morning, molly .

kingsley. good morning, molly. where do you start with what we've seen in the last 2 or 3 days? just go, because i know you've been watching this in the most minute detail. what stuck out for you? >> yeah, i mean, i think , look, >> yeah, i mean, i think, look, there's so many points. i'll just i think for just pick off a few. i think for me, actually, whitty came across quite sensibly yesterday . i quite sensibly yesterday. i thought, you know, i never thought, you know, i never thought i'd say this, but i had a lot of sympathy for him because i think he, unlike some others, particularly vallance, i would say the day before he recognised that, you know, i think he even said there are no good options and there are some really serious trade offs to be made. and he seemed to have much more awareness of the devastation, that lockdown would cause and did cause . and i think cause and did cause. and i think with that in mind , the inquiry with that in mind, the inquiry cases , treatment of him was cases, treatment of him was a bit brutal , actually. and, you bit brutal, actually. and, you know, the inquiry kc hugo keith seems to have started from this perspective that covid was an existential threat and he said that and he said that whitty's

failure to recognise covid in those terms was a terrible flaw . those terms was a terrible flaw. and i think there's many of us that might challenge that because , you know, as we've because, you know, as we've talked about many, many times, i'm sure you know, covid most definitely was a very serious illness for a minority of the population, but actually had we had a predominantly healthy fit population , then many of us population, then many of us might query whether it should have been termed an existential threat. so for me, actually , it threat. so for me, actually, it was an illuminating day, predominantly because once again it has underlined where the inquiry and the inquiry kc is starting from on this. >> there was a particularly interesting moment. molly where whitty pushed back on the concept of the precautionary principle and what that might mean and, and just sum it up for us because effectively you've just cut out , oh, i'm sorry. can

just cut out, oh, i'm sorry. can you, can you, can you hear us? hopefully you can. you can still hear us. molly, i was just going to ask molly. we'll try and get her back. was this moment her back. there was this moment where hugo, keith, kc was suggesting that any measure was better than no measure and basically throwing out the idea of the cost benefit analysis of lockdowns. what might the longer term cost be economy, to term cost be to the economy, to excess deaths that we're seeing at the moment are enormous in this bigger than this country. that bigger than we've for decades. we've we've had for decades. we're back to i think we're back to molly. i think we've lost molly. and whitty pushed back on the idea that the precautions principle is that it doesn't mean that you just have to something. sometimes you to do something. sometimes you also that kc has also have to measure that kc has made his mind up already because so when whitty said, i some might say we didn't handle it perfectly, he said, that is an understatement . understatement. >> so he's obviously decided we should have been locked down a lot sooner. he's decided he's there to draw out questions and answers and be impartial . answers and be impartial. >> yeah, and it's steering us towards the world health organisation , having control of

organisation, having control of our democracy and overtaking our democratic process . that's what democratic process. that's what worries me. >> moving on, israel has agreed to a deal with hamas to secure the release of 50 women and children kidnapped by the terrorists exchange terrorists in exchange for a four in the conflict. four day pause in the conflict. we're go straight to we're going to go straight to the editor of the the defence editor of the evening standard , robert evening standard, robert fox. robert, you. you robert, morning to you. if you could explain difference could explain the difference here and here between a pause and a ceasefire. >> well, sometimes i like you and most of the audience. i'm pretty stuck on this one. there's a lot of messing around with language. i'm sure you would agree with about about this. a ceasefire, a pause is a cessation of hostilities is a truce. come on. does the fighting stop or does the fighting stop or does the fighting stop or does the fighting stop enough . enough for fighting stop enough. enough for a deal for the release of some 50 hostages to go on? and we believe about 100, possibly 100 plus detained and imprisoned, convicted ? i don't know quite convicted? i don't know quite how they're going to categorise them. palestinians go the other

way. will this allow aid into the south? and finally , what the south? and finally, what does hamas do? and in answer to that question, i think that's where the devil is not in the details . the devil is where the devil is not in the details. the devil is in where the devil is not in the details . the devil is in the details. the devil is in the details. the devil is in the detail where you will get the possibility of hamas saying we're going to lose too much about it and probably aborting the whole deal. do you think that will happen? >> hello. do you think that will happen? robert >> i think and i think it's so i think it's so fragile. >> and from this distance , it's >> and from this distance, it's very, very difficult to predict because there are so many policy paths in this. we have mr netanyahu, we have his government. we have the israeli defence forces, which seem to be generating their own policy, their own version of what they would like to happen . but what would like to happen. but what we're also looking at is very little sense of what the conclusions are going to be. what are you going to do with

gaza at the end of this ? gaza at the end of this? >> yeah, robert, if i could ask you one other question. you would have heard argentina's new president , who would have heard argentina's new president, who is would have heard argentina's new president , who is apparently would have heard argentina's new president, who is apparently an admirer of margaret thatcher's economic policies, but he also is an admirer of the falkland islands, and he says they should be well that's not be argentinian. well that's not going to happen, of course. but robert, i wondered, would we be in a position now to send a task force to the south atlantic to liberate the falkland islands in the did in 1982 ? the way we did in 1982? >> in answer to your very direct question, no . so a task force in question, no. so a task force in the way that we did it before? absolutely no. nor is argentina . absolutely no. nor is argentina. very well configured to actually go and smash it now. but that being said, we have been asleep at the wheel on securing the south atlantic. and like you , as south atlantic. and like you, as you imply in your question , i'm you imply in your question, i'm quite concerned about that . quite concerned about that. things have been thinned out, probably too much. >> let's hope that the new

president of argentina wasn't listening to that. let's hope that he thinks we are capable of putting up a good defence were that, well, i've just signed myself off gb news forever , myself off gb news forever, haven't i? >> to the enemy ? >> to the enemy? >> to the enemy? >> i do apologise, of course, because everybody for that the island is of course have made it absolutely clear because there was that poll some years ago, robert, i think it was 98.9% or 99% say they are british and they want to remain british. yes they want to remain british. yes the percentage, andrew, showed that they really are part of the latin american political culture, isn't it? >> now, i know the islanders and i've been back again recently and i know them well, and that is the sentiment and that's the bit that talking to interrupt you, robert . you, robert. >> we're at the live >> we're looking at the live pictures of chancellor, pictures now of the chancellor, jeremy hunt , leaving pictures now of the chancellor, jeremy hunt, leaving number 11, making his way to the house of commons to make his awesome statement. >> and the difference is, when it's a budget budget, it's a budget with the budget, he there with his he would be there with his budget briefcase. famous budget briefcase. the famous battered briefcase, and battered red briefcase, and he would his treasury

would have all his treasury ministers with and treasury ministers with him and treasury officials. here on officials. but here he's gone on his folder, his own, holding a folder, getting his range rover. he getting into his range rover. he could walk to the commons, couldn't he? >> just had a4 green >> he just had a little a4 green folder he'd just been down folder like he'd just been down w bought it, w h smith's and bought it, didn't w h smith's and bought it, did and wasn't exactly >> and it wasn't exactly a dramatic moment. but let's hope the autumn statement is more dramatic than his departure from number 11 downing street. so he's off early to the he's heading off early to the commons. he will taking his he's heading off early to the comion 1s. he will taking his he's heading off early to the comion theie will taking his he's heading off early to the comion the front.l taking his he's heading off early to the comion the front bench|king his he's heading off early to the comion the front bench next his he's heading off early to the comion the front bench next to; seat on the front bench next to the prime minister because of course we get primes, questions first 12:00, which farce first at 12:00, which is a farce really, wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget on wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget on with wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget on with the wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget on with the main wants first at 12:00, which is a farce retget on with the main action,; to get on with the main action, which is hunt rising to do the statement at 11 at 1230. robert fox thank you so much for joining us, talking about that ceasefire truce , a pause in ceasefire truce, a pause in hostilities and also about the falkland islands. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> keep our hands off the falklands. >> lots more to come this morning. we're with you for another minutes. first, another 90 minutes. first, though, here's aaron with the news headlines . news headlines. >> it's 1033. aaron armstrong

here with the headlines from the newsroom . well, as you've been newsroom. well, as you've been hearing, israel has published a list of 300 palestinians who could be released as part of a deal with the hamas terror group . israel says it will release at least 150 palestinians in exchange for 50 hostages held by hamas. after the two sides agreed a four day pause. it's expected to start in the next 24 hours. the release of every additional ten hostages will extend the pause by a day. foreign secretary david cameron has described the agreement as a crucial step towards providing relief to the families of hostages and addressing the humanitarian crisis in gaza . a humanitarian crisis in gaza. a shropshire community is mourning the loss of four teenagers who died in north wales. the loss of four teenagers who died in north wales . jevon hirst died in north wales. jevon hirst harvey owen wilf fitchett and hugo morris had set off on a camping trip in the snowdon area. their bodies were recovered yesterday after a car was found overturned and partially submerged in water near the chancellor has left downing street ahead of his autumn statement. tax cuts ,

autumn statement. tax cuts, investment in the energy sector and getting people back into work are among the measures expected to be announced shortly, he is also expected to pitch britain's economy as being back track as he seeks to back on track as he seeks to ease the tax burden from a 70 year high. four men will be sentenced later for the murder of a 28 year old woman in liverpool. ashley dale was killed when james witham forced his way into her home and opened fire with machine gun. he and fire with a machine gun. he and co—defender pearce co—defenderjoseph pearce nalbari and shaun zeiss were found guilty of murder and conspiracy to murder . found guilty of murder and conspiracy to murder. ms dale's partner , pro—palestinian partner, pro—palestinian activists have scaled a building in manchester, palestine . action in manchester, palestine. action posted a video on social media showing one of the protesters climbing onto the roof of the offices of fisher german, a property management firm. the group said it's targeting the company due to its business deaungs company due to its business dealings with weapons manufacturers . we'll be back manufacturers. we'll be back with more. in just under half an

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newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson, bev turner so the chancellor will announce a cut in national insurance for millions of workers in his autumn statement later today. millions of workers in his autbut statement later today. millions of workers in his aut but whatement later today. millions of workers in his aut but what does later today. millions of workers in his aut but what does itater today. millions of workers in his autbut what does it all today. millions of workers in his autbut what does it all mean for >> but what does it all mean for you? we're joined by our reporter hull and reporter ana riley in hull and sophie reaper. also this morning . good morning, ladies . ana . good morning, ladies. ana riley in hull, ana , where are riley in hull, ana, where are you and what are people saying about this potential good news today ? today? >> good morning. >> good morning. >> we are at the hq for community trust in hull. >> it's a food bank. it's a warm bank and it's a hub for the whole community to get together. i'm joined by my lovely guests. i'm joined by my lovely guests. i'm joined by cherie, linda and chris, i'm just going to start with you, cherie. you help local families that are struggling in the area. access to the food bank service here. just tell me a little bit about what they're going through and if there are cuts to benefits in this chancellor's announcement, what that will mean already our

families are struggling. >> the working families. i always say that maybe just £0.50 over to get anything , any help over to get anything, any help from anywhere when we first started working with you far as in the food bank, we maybe had about five parents come. now we've seen many, many more. and if there's cuts to benefits, i honestly don't know what they're going to do. they're already in dire. they're embarrassed and they're proud and they don't want to ask for the will go without. and these are the people that we to get to. people that we need to get to. last rishi gave the last year, rishi gave the working people £67 a month. that really lot of our really did help a lot of our parents. and the workers are not seeing that. they've still got to for childcare . to pay for the childcare. childcare extortionate and childcare is extortionate and they're just struggling. if there's any more cuts, i honestly don't know how we're going to be able to support them. we're already run out of food here at depher on occasions and if there's many more families, i don't know how we're going to support them. if they keep cutting are. keep cutting like they are. >> thank cherie. we'll just >> thank you, cherie. we'll just move next. linda move on to you next. linda linda, pensioner there

linda, you're a pensioner there might be some hope on the honzon might be some hope on the horizon for pensioners with the announcement . how are you announcement. how are you feeling about it? >> i hope that there is >> well, i hope that there is because i object to have paid tax on my pension when i was working . they say that, you working. they say that, you know, your pensions are like an allowance. it isn't. we paid the money in, so why should we be taxed on the allowance on the pension now instead of just having our pension that we've paid in? and my son, he's a one parent family and he's struggling . i finish up helping struggling. i finish up helping him. what's going to happen if they take any more money off of us and chris, you're a pensioner as well. >> do you feel the same? what's your take on things? >> yeah, i do . i mean, i've got >> yeah, i do. i mean, i've got no high hopes at all because if it goes to like it does every yean it goes to like it does every year, they'll give it to us with one hand and then they'll take it back in the other. if my pension goes up, then my tax

will go up. so where does you know, where does that leave us? all people want is a living wage . they don't want to be on benefits . they want to be able benefits. they want to be able to support themselves . and as to support themselves. and as one of the richest countries in the world, the lane, the lane in this country down, they really are . i mean, we've got asylum are. i mean, we've got asylum seekers and i've got nothing against them . they're living in against them. they're living in hotels, they're getting three meals a day. if you're in prison, you get three meals a day. but there are children out there whose parents are on that are not getting three meals a day or else if they get free school meals and then there's a stigma across from that. it's just never ending. >> thank you for sharing, chris. so that's the view here from hugh for community trust. still feeling a little bit negative as to what's going to happen this afternoon, but certainly looking out for good news to see how this chancellor is statement and

budget can help people in this community and across the country. thanks very much. >> we're going to go to sophie now, who is in stockport. sophie reaper morning, sophie. >> very good morning to you both. yes, i am indeed in stockport this morning. here. the coffee fix , which is the coffee fix, which is a little bit of a community hub here in gatley in stockport . here in gatley in stockport. now, of course, we are expecting the statement in the next couple of hours . and one of the big of hours. and one of the big things that's going to be discussed or has already been discussed or has already been discussed the potential for discussed is the potential for taxes be cut. so we're here taxes to be cut. so we're here today talking to members of the community families about community and families about exactly how autumn statement exactly how the autumn statement could help them. so joining us now is laura. very good morning to you, laura, talking there about taxes. if taxes were to be cut in the autumn statement , how cut in the autumn statement, how is that going to be helping yourself ? but also is that going to be helping yourself? but also families all over the country? >> yeah, so as a family, you know , we are so conscious now of know, we are so conscious now of the money that comes in. the

money that goes out. and what we're spending every single month. this is a conscious decision for us every single month. and i'm already very aware of my own privilege. i'm not having to make decisions between do i eat, do my kids eat or do i pay my bills? and there are so many families are having to make that decision every single day. and it's absolutely heartbreaking. so anything from a financial perspective of that can help us to get more money back into our families, to not just survive, but thrive is beneficial. >> absolutely . and of course, >> absolutely. and of course, the cost of living is relative . the cost of living is relative. there are some families, like you say, who will be struggling with that. but every day, families, they'll also be struggling balance struggling to balance their books. know we books. now, i know we were speaking earlier about your work as a psychotherapist and what your them your clients have told them about the impact of this on their health. what could about the impact of this on theistatement ealth. what could about the impact of this on theistatement be th. what could about the impact of this on theistatement be doing at could the statement be doing for people are are people who are who are struggling terms of their struggling in terms of their mental health? >> gosh, such a big question . so >> gosh, such a big question. so the is, at the moment, the thing is, at the moment, there are so many families in

survival mode. you know, we need bafic survival mode. you know, we need basic things to survive. food, water and sleep. and actually thatis water and sleep. and actually that is what a lot of families are doing, surviving. no body can thrive from that place . so can thrive from that place. so a lot of people are just living day by day. their mental health is suffering. and sadly , their is suffering. and sadly, their children's mental health is suffering . so the more that the suffering. so the more that the government can be doing to better support families , this is better support families, this is going help generations now going to help generations now and to come . this is and generations to come. this is really important. we need a more proactive approach supporting proactive approach to supporting families at the minute. we're firefighting. families are firefighting. families are firefighting. the government's firefighting, isn't good firefighting, and it isn't good enough for our wellbeing. >> let just ask you >> well, let me just ask you then, do you think the statement will enough to help these will do enough to help these families might be struggling families who might be struggling or you have much hope for or do you not have much hope for the it comes in in the statement as it comes in in the statement as it comes in in the couple hours? the next couple of hours? >> i do not have a >> oh, sadly, i do not have a lot of hope that actually this is going to help. i hope it will. i do have hope that it will. i do have hope that it will. but i do think this is a bigger problem in of bigger problem in terms of better supporting families and their a whole. yes

their wellbeing as a whole. yes financially, we really, financially, but we really, really be thinking, really need to be thinking, thinking better thinking about how we're better supporting families psychologically my eyes. >> absolutely. thank you so much for that, laura. as you can hear here in stockport, people are really taking stock of this autumn statement and they're really taking stock of this autunto statement and they're really taking stock of this autunto be :ement and they're really taking stock of this autunto be watching d they're really taking stock of this autunto be watching keenlyre really taking stock of this autunto be watching keenly this going to be watching keenly this afternoon what the afternoon to see what the government doing help them. >> all right. that's sophie reaperin >> all right. that's sophie reaper in stockport. and of course, don't forget, we will be covering statement covering the autumn statement live on gb at 1230. live here on gb news at 1230. we've in the studio stephen live here on gb news at 1230. we've chunteringtudio stephen live here on gb news at 1230. we've chuntering awaystephen live here on gb news at 1230. we've chuntering away stethen pound, chuntering away at the end . former mp. how dare end. former labour mp. how dare you and emma webb is also with us. a running commentary , not a chunter. >> it's a yes. he did speculate that the scene in the cafe was the liberal democrat conference that we've just been watching there. >> very few people there and all very worthy. >> all right. we have got this far without barely touching on. i'm get me out of i'm a celebrity, get me out of here. but love it and we love here. but we love it and we love the fact that nigel is in there. so didn't see so last night, if you didn't see it, was a heated exchange it, there was a heated exchange change between nella rose. she's the did very well the youtuber who did very well the youtuber who did very well the before, and fred the night before, and fred sirieix, he's from first. let's

have this . have a watch of this. >> i could be your dad. pardon i could be your dad. >> no, my dad was way older than you. >> yeah, but i could still be your dad. you live on that side? >> i live on this side, and it's cool. don't bring up my dead parent. are you stupid about. oh, know, could be your oh, you know, it could be your dad. know, my dad's dead. dad. you know, my dad's dead. you're you're weirdo. >> sorry you took it. i'm so sorry. can i just say, first of all, i am sorry i've offended you, okay? i am unaware that you felt offended. i am unaware that what said, know, would what i said, you know, would lead this conversation. lead to this conversation. i only said that in way because only said that in a way because i older than you. 51 and i am older than you. i'm 51 and you're 26. i'm not stupid. >> wasn't like girl. me. >> it wasn't like that girl. me. you're not. >> she fell from grace last night. really aggressive . night. really aggressive. >> emma did you really? quite marvellous watching somebody getting offended that somebody has infantilised them and doing so in a way that is behaving like a completely , like a sort like a completely, like a sort of big baby? yeah i just made herself look like a bit of a tall to be honest. she

embarrassed herself and she was trying to bully him. and it's also kind of delusional, like everybody knows is like it's common sense. everyone knows he just means that he's old enough to father. it's to be her father. it's completely unreasonable way to interpret his words. she's just behaving like an infant. she's behaving like an infant. she's behaving like a stroppy teenagen >> bit that was before that >> the bit that was before that because doing the cooking because he was doing the cooking and he was saying he couldn't really see the dark. and they really see in the dark. and they were about eyesight. and were talking about eyesight. and that's said i could be that's why i said i could be i done a great deal in the course of my country. >> served my nation in many >> i've served my nation in many ways days. but watching ways on many days. but watching the that, have to say the whole of that, i have to say i i'd have a brain scrub i wish i'd have a brain scrub after that because i've often said emma, old enough to said to emma, i'm old enough to be your grandfather, great grandfather. >> stephen, actually. >> stephen, actually. >> dare you? >> stephen, actually. >> how you? >> stephen, actually. >> how did]? >> stephen, actually. >> how did you have a fun >> yes. how did you have a fun day? >> we can't friends anymore, stephen. >> yeah, but look, the point, fred. >> el e- e to say, he was a true >> i have to say, he was a true gentleman. he really was. he was. listen, if i have a if i've offended i have idea offended you, i have no idea what done. but the point what he'd done. but the point is, who who her is, who who knows that her father's dead and who knows that

the expression i'm enough to the expression i'm old enough to be specifically be your father. specifically talking a year be your father. specifically talkman, a year be your father. specifically talkman, talking a year be your father. specifically talkman, talking about year be your father. specifically talkman, talking about having old man, talking about having his eye surgery done. yeah. what could inoffensive than his eye surgery done. yeah. what could and inoffensive than his eye surgery done. yeah. what could and how inoffensive than his eye surgery done. yeah. what could and how on ffensive than his eye surgery done. yeah. what couldand how on earthve than his eye surgery done. yeah. what couldand how on earth somebody that? and how on earth somebody can go flying off the handle and then say, not going to sit then say, i'm not going to sit next to you. how are you going to coexist? i can imagine monsieur sitting and monsieur farage sitting back and thinking, the thinking, oh, to be back in the gb i can. gb news no, i can. >> mr >> mr >> i was thinking, good. >> i was thinking, good. >> because she's so self—centred, isn't unravelling. >> because she's so selfhe'sltred, isn't unravelling. >> because she's so selfhe's aed, isn't unravelling. >> because she's so selfhe's a goodn't unravelling. >> because she's so selfhe's a good judge.1velling. >> he's a good judge. >> he's a good judge. >> nigel do think. do >> nigel good. do you think. do you was good? telly you think it was good? telly i thought it was sickening. in many ways. it was. >> it was good tv. >> it was good tv. >> it was good tv. >> i mean, i sat there with my two daughters who and 12, two daughters who are 14 and 12, and loved nella—rose until and they loved nella—rose until that last night. and were that last night. and they were just i was obviously just they were i was obviously doing that mum thing of going, i can't believe she's saying that. doing that mum thing of going, i ccan'telieve she's saying that. doing that mum thing of going, i ccan't believe he's saying that. doing that mum thing of going, i ccan't believe she's aying that. doing that mum thing of going, i ccan't believe she's sayinghat. i can't believe she's saying that year old going, that with the 12 year old going, shush stop shush mummy, stop giving a commentary they both commentary and then they both started going, started chipping in, going, i can't she's saying that. can't believe she's saying that. i believe they she i can't believe it. they she massively went in their massively went down in their estimation she was the only estimation and she was the only one that they know on there because a youtube. because she's a youtube. >> a lot people

>> there'll be a lot of people like didn't know who on like me who didn't know who on earth she was until you just told me she was a youtuber who will know nothing of except will know nothing of her except this going be this clip, which is going to be the thing that she the one thing probably that she is for. is remembered for. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> could cost her place >> and could cost her her place in jungle. in the jungle. >> interesting. >> yeah, it's interesting. i mean, never watched this mean, i have never watched this show all, though nigel show at all, even though nigel is i still. i is on it. i'm sorry. i still. i still can't bear to watch it. >> but his naked bum. >> but his naked bum. >> i did. but i did see the body shaming clip. i'm seeing the shaming clip. so i'm seeing the clips media. clips of it on social media. >> take one look at clips of it on social media. >> and take one look at clips of it on social media. >> and recoil. take one look at him and recoil. >> watched. i watched him >> i watched. i watched him eating grim pizza because eating the grim pizza because everybody tweeting that out. everybody was tweeting that out. but the same but i do think it's the same thing matt hancock, isn't thing with matt hancock, isn't it, you get these people it, that you get these people who they take part in who go in or they take part in shows and really shows like this and it really can only way other can only go one way or the other for them either it cements a fantastic reputation the fantastic reputation because the pubuc fantastic reputation because the public that a good public see that they're a good person. that that's person. and i think that that's what's going happen with what's going to happen with nigel happens. nigel or the opposite happens. and clips like this and you get clips like this where show yourself up. where you show yourself up. yeah. ever yeah. and people won't ever forget thing he did >> the only thing that he did last which a bit icky, last night, which is a bit icky, was he was thinking that they , was he was thinking that they, they, well, they were thinking

that he couldn't hear and he said to one of the other contestants, i want to do the trials because then you get 25% of airtime. i'm here to of the airtime. and i'm here to get audience. and so he get a bigger audience. and so he sort of his hand a little sort of showed his hand a little bit. wrong with bit. i mean, nothing wrong with that. there to get that. everyone's on there to get a bigger audience. but the speculation he's in there speculation that he's in there to well, is a popularity contest. >> i think he's been quite open about though, so about it, though, hasn't he? so the don't the illusion, don't they? >> the thing >> but i mean, the other thing is, i say, god love him. is, i have to say, god love him. he's been deal out there he's been a good deal out there because only can have fag because not only can he have fag breaks in the middle of the jungle, also he doesn't have jungle, but also he doesn't have to any of the particularly to do any of the particularly difficult stuff because to do any of the particularly difficthat stuff because to do any of the particularly difficthat stplane cause to do any of the particularly difficthat stplane crash. to do any of the particularly diffic'and stplane crash. to do any of the particularly diffic'and course,lane crash. to do any of the particularly diffic'and course, hes crash. to do any of the particularly diffic'and course, he then.h. to do any of the particularly diffic'and course, he then had yeah. and of course, he then had a car crash before that. yeah. >> did have to eat some. >> but he did have to eat some. >> but he did have to eat some. >> doesn't mean he's >> yeah. doesn't that mean he's just have eat all just going to have to eat all the things, you know. the disgusting things, you know. >> you're trying to >> i'm sorry if you're trying to get a parliamentary seat and you're doing what we call the rubber going rubber chicken circuit going round, you eat some stuff. >> did you? >> yes, exactly. did you? >> yes, exactly. did you? >> do. all right. >> certainly do. all right. moving pupils should be moving on. so pupils should be allowed the allowed to identify you as the opposite sex under strict opposite sex only under strict new this dose new rules. emma, is this a dose of kemi badenoch? >> um, i think that this is

being branded as a good news story when in fact, it might actually be backfire to you. so maya forstater from the campaign group sex matters has pointed out, and i think quite rightly, that because and there are a lot of backbench mps who are saying the same because as this and i think kemi has tried to make this as robust as possible. however and the reason why it doesn't go for an all out ban is because that would mean bringing in new legislation. but the problem is that because this isn't very, very straightforward, here is the line schools will then be the ones who have to who have to deal with the potential legal challenges. so there's a lot of leeway in here for activist . leeway in here for activist. parents for troublesome students , for activist groups to possibly bring legal challenges against schools because the line isn't very clearly drawn. right. and as a result of that, it it puts it basically it's putting

too much responsibility on the schools . the guidance, i think, schools. the guidance, i think, needs to be much clearer. >> so do you think they should they should, in fact, legislate? >> yes, i think that so the point that the backbench mps have that you have made is that if you essentially that if you if you don't go all the way, then you are causing more trouble basically. so anything less than a ban is not good enough, right? >> so it's things like . >> so it's things like. >> so it's things like. >> stephen um , single sex >> stephen um, single sex toilets using a pronoun or having a gender neutral uniform , having a gender neutral uniform, if you like. emma saying it should be the schools should be protected in the law. >> well, it's still a little bit woolly. >> you're so absolutely right. and i think the key phrase here is activist parents and also i have to say, i don't use the word woke very often, but i have to say some of the schools, dear lord, alive, they've got a master's degree in wokery. you can just imagine each school being sort of woke than the other one. look, it's if i was a primary school kid and i just wanted a really wind up the

teachers, you know, i'd say, well, by the way, i'm identifying a steph today, identifying a steph takyi today, you that. you you know, but kids do that. you actually need to have something in legislation which actually protects protects protects the parents, protects the school, but above all, protects children . protects the children. >> and the thing is, they've had protects the children. >.yeard the thing is, they've had protects the children. >.yeard tigething is, they've had protects the children. >.yeard tiget the is, they've had protects the children. >.yeard tiget the legislation had a year to get the legislation they could legislated they could have legislated because knocking because this has been knocking around whitehall for a year. >> there there aspects >> there are there are aspects of this that are good, like parents have to be. and same sex bathrooms, of thing, bathrooms, that kind of thing, that they actually have to uphold the equality rather uphold the equality act rather than certain activist than what certain activist groups say, equality act groups say, the equality act into schools. so that is into schools. yeah. so that is good. and they and they have tried to make as robust as tried to make it as robust as they without legislating. they can without legislating. >> go. emma they need >> we need to go. emma they need to

it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 22nd of november. >> this is gb news. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so jeremy hunt is set to deliver his autumn statement at around 12.30 with personal tax cuts anticipated . are people cuts anticipated. are people going to feel the impact ? our going to feel the impact? our reporter jeff moody is at a christmas market in exeter. >> yes, i'm here at the christmas market in exeter , christmas market in exeter, where i'll be talking to stallholders and to customers to find out exactly what they want to hear from the chancellor's autumn statement and jack carson. >> he's in birmingham and i'm at a property developers in

birmingham . birmingham. >> as of course, this industry hopes the chancellor's autumn statement could give them some good news to build on and booths on ice. >> jeremy hunt will soon put a freeze on alcohol duty in a bid to boost pubs. some landlords think it's not enough . think it's not enough. putting a freeze on it is basically saying he's not going to put it up, but he's not taking it down, is he? >> i noticed nothing about petrol. >> no, nothing for the motorist in there. >> no. you have to wait till the budget for that i suspect. >> anyway let us know your >> yeah. anyway let us know your thoughts this morning. >> cbnnews.com is >> gb views at cbnnews.com is the though. here is the email. first though. here is your news with aaron your very latest news with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> very good morning to you. it's a minute past 11. i'm aaron armstrong. the foreign secretary says the truce between israel

and hamas is a crucial step towards releasing hostages and providing humanitarian relief in gaza. providing humanitarian relief in gaza . the two sides have agreed gaza. the two sides have agreed a four day pause, which is due to start in the next hours. to start in the next 24 hours. if 50 hostages held by the terror group in gaza will be freed in exchange for 150. palestine is currently held in israeli jails. palestine is currently held in israeli jails . every ten israeli jails. every ten additional hostages subsequently released will extend the pause by a day. however the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , minister, benjamin netanyahu, has vowed israel will continue its war against hamas after the pause, the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas , has president, mahmoud abbas, has welcomed the temporary truce in fighting and has reiterated calls for wider solutions to the conflict. other world leaders have also praised the deal. the us president, joe biden, says it should see further american hostages freed. the european commission president, ursula von der leyen , has promised the bloc der leyen, has promised the bloc will do its utmost to use the time for a humanitarian surge into gaza. meanwhile, in russia ,

into gaza. meanwhile, in russia, a spokesperson for the foreign ministry said moscow also welcomes the humanitarian pause . welcomes the humanitarian pause. the home town of four teenage boys who died in north wales has cancelled tonight's switching on of the christmas lights out of respect for the families. jevon hirst harvey owen wilf fitchett and hugo morris had set off on a camping trip in the snowdonia area. their bodies were recovered yesterday when a car was found overturned and partially submerged in water. nonh partially submerged in water. north wales police is investigating how the car left the road. the force says it appears to have been a tragic accident. shrewsbury town council have called it a terrible tragedy . tax cuts , terrible tragedy. tax cuts, investment in the energy sector and getting people back into work are amongst the measures expected to be announced by the chancellor very shortly. jeremy hunts autumn budget statement will pitch britains economy as being back on track as he seeks to ease the tax burden from a 70 year high. chair of the commons treasury committee, harriett baldwin , says its all about

baldwin, says its all about getting britain moving. >> well, i think it is going to be a real turning point today in terms of the autumn statement because if you your mind because if you cast your mind back year ago, inflation back to a year ago, inflation was running over 11. now weve got a backdrop of it having fallen to 4.6. and the bank of england forecast saying that it will fall further next year. and so thats a backdrop where jeremy hunt, who had to raise taxes last year, can look actually at giving some of that back to the hard working people of the uk . hard working people of the uk. >> shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, though says today's announcement won't be enough to turn britains economic tide . economic tide. >> on every measure on the economic dashboard for our country, whether inflation and the cost of living, the amount of tax people are paying , the of tax people are paying, the amount of the country is amount of debt the country is in, the quality of our public services, whether services, and whether people at home better off after the home feel better off after the last 13 years under the tories or not. its just red lights across the dashboard , its 13 or not. its just red lights acrossofie dashboard , its 13 or not. its just red lights acrossof failure board , its 13 or not. its just red lights acrossof failure andd , its 13 or not. its just red lights acrossof failure and the ts 13 or not. its just red lights acrossof failure and the budget years of failure and the budget today is not going to be able to

do anywhere near to turn do anywhere near enough to turn that properly . that around properly. >> activists have scaled >> opinion activists have scaled a manchester, a building in manchester, palestine and posted a palestine action and posted a video on social media showing one of its demonstrator climbing onto the roof of the offices of fisher. german a property management they say management firm. they say support is building on the ground whilst the action stays on the roof of the building . the on the roof of the building. the group said its targeting the company due to its business deaungs company due to its business dealings with weapons manufacturers . as four men will manufacturers. as four men will be sentenced soon for the murder of a 28 year old woman in liverpool. ashley dale was killed when james witham forced his way into her home and opened fire with a machine gun. he and co—defendants joseph pearce now barry and shaun zeiss, were found guilty of murder and conspiracy to murder. ms dales partner witham told the jury he believed the house was empty at the time and he intended to send a warning to ms dales partner who he claimed was stealing drug customers . the co founder of the

customers. the co founder of the tech company openai, has returned as chief exec just days after being ousted in a bizarre u—turn . sam altman's sacking was u—turn. sam altman's sacking was announced on friday amid much mystery with the board saying he hadnt mystery with the board saying he hadn't been consistently candid with them. his departure prompted 500 staff to threaten to resign. he quickly accepted a new position with microsoft, which has a partnership with openai. but he will now return to his previous role as part of a agreement in principle on a round of third of british people have admitted to working in their pyjamas. a survey from indeed found around 33% of workers do wear their pyjamas dunng workers do wear their pyjamas during shift hours. workers do wear their pyjamas during shift hours . employees during shift hours. employees dress in their nightwear 46 days a year on average , with 1 in 12 a year on average, with 1 in 12 wearing pyjamas every day . wearing pyjamas every day. almost half of the bosses surveyed said their staff have just become too casual since the pandemic , which they blame on pandemic, which they blame on too much. working from home. not

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tell of your friends us and tell one of your friends us and stay and stay with us. stay with us and stay with us. now, , look you've now, um, look at what you've been at home, richard. been saying at home, richard. now, this is, course, now, this is, of course, the fact going to be a fact that there's going to be a clampdown benefits. >> there. >> there. >> well, depends what you >> well, it depends what you mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the is saying they're mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the to is saying they're mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the to make is saying they're mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the to make itis saying they're mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the to make it much ng they're mean by a clampdown, doesn't it? the to make it much hardery're going to make it much harder to stay on benefits and not be seeking a job. stay on benefits and not be see that's job. stay on benefits and not be see that's what they are going to >> that's what they are going to say. but richard said, i have a broken back. >> my spine is held together by titanium bolts and pins. let's see grief i get after see how much grief i get after this i it time this budget. i get it every time and every time i have to beg them. i'm not fit to do anything. i'm sorry anything. and this is. i'm sorry to hear that, richard. it sounds, course , because there sounds, of course, because there are many, many genuine people benefits. >> course there but >> of course there are. but there are some, afraid, who there are some, i'm afraid, who are swinging the lead. are are swinging the lead. they are taking they're taking the michael and we know through work done by the csj centre for social justice , some families social justice, some families have been on benefits for generations . generations. >> yeah, and it has become a culture where for some people not not many, there are people who are really struggling, especially at the moment, with interest rates. i think we're

going to see much more it going to see much more of it into the winter and spring of next year with people struggling into the winter and spring of next yetheirth people struggling into the winter and spring of next yetheir mortgagestruggling to pay their mortgages because the thing the mortgage is the last thing that isn't it? that you stop paying, isn't it? you everything just try you do everything just to try and roof your head and keep the roof over your head or your rent. of course. um, let's see what else have let's see what else you have been at home. i'm. i'm been saying at home. i'm. i'm struggling to get my emails up at the moment. andrew, are you. >> well, let's move on then, because the chancellor is going to set that autumn to set out that autumn statement. it's basically plans for spending by about for tax and spending by about 1230 nationally assurance we think will be cut. there'll be other changes. we're to other changes. we're going to talk tory for uxbridge talk to the tory mp for uxbridge and ruislip, steve and south ruislip, steve tuckwell, steve. good morning to you. you are a new mp of course, because were the surprise because you were the surprise winner that by—election in winner of that by—election in uxbndge winner of that by—election in uxbridge and south. is it because the tories turned it into a referendum on sadiq khan's hated ultra low emission zone expansion and what you with the chance that we've seen a photograph of you with the chancellor just the other day in his office. so what are you hoping he's going to do for your

constituents ? constituents? >> well, it's great to be on here this morning. >> as you say , i a few months >> as you say, i a few months ago, i wouldn't have expected to be stood here, but it's going to be stood here, but it's going to be my first autumn statement. and i'm really looking forward to the chancellor to hearing what the chancellor has to say. there's has got to say. there's been lots speculation what lots of speculation about what isn't included isn't going to be included and what to included. what isn't going to be included. and forward and i'm really looking forward to fine to understanding what the fine detail can take that detail is so i can take that back my constituents, which back to my constituents, which is an area i'm championing is an area that i'm championing local businesses and supporting is an area that i'm championing locehigh;inesses and supporting is an area that i'm championing locehigh street.; and supporting is an area that i'm championing locehigh street. so,d supporting is an area that i'm championing locehigh street. so,d su know,|g our high street. so, you know, i wouldn't want to really speculate the fine speculate on what the fine detail going to look like, detail is going to look like, but forward but i'm really looking forward to what to understanding what that's going be going to what's going to be announced the next hour announced in about the next hour and . and a half. >> tax cuts for businesses in 50 years. steve >> well, again, there's a lot of speculation about tax cuts and business rates. >> and again , it would be wrong >> and again, it would be wrong of me to kind of second guess what is going to be included in the fine detail. >> so i'm really looking forward to understanding what that looks like constituency like for my constituency and about benefit about how it can benefit businesses uxbridge and south

businesses in uxbridge and south ruislip the ruislip you stepped into the very boris johnson very big shoes of boris johnson in and ruislip in uxbridge and south ruislip steve, the steve, how are you finding the job? i'm immensely enjoying it. you know, it's an area where i was born and raised. i've spent my entire life. i started my working career as a postman in uxbridge, really looking uxbridge, and i'm really looking forward representing the forward to representing the people, friends, people, my friends, my neighbours people around neighbours as people all around me, as their member of parliament. so the last few months incredible months has been an incredible privilege . you know, as privilege for me. you know, as i said, i didn't expect to be stood here talking to yourselves on of an autumn on the day of an autumn statement . but on the day of an autumn statement. but again, i'm really looking hearing what looking forward to hearing what the going be the benefits are going to be included in autumn included in that autumn statement. included in that autumn statsoient. go back to the >> so i can go back to the doorsteps of uxbridge and south ruislip, the many, hundreds ruislip, the many, many hundreds of been talking of businesses i've been talking to been as to since i've been elected as an mp understanding i can mp and understanding how i can support local businesses support them as local businesses and really supporting high support them as local businesses and reeas supporting high support them as local businesses and reeas welliorting high support them as local businesses and reeas well .yrting high streets as well. >> what did you make, steve, of the this draft leaked report from the advertising standards authority suggesting that sadiq khan may have exaggerated the benefits of the ultra low emission zone on our health and

on our breathing and if that's the case, he's effectively lying , lied to the voters . , lied to the voters. >> well, i've been saying right the way through the by—election campaign, you know , 41 days campaign, you know, 41 days gruelling by—election campaign. and since, you know, being elected at the back end of july , elected at the back end of july, you know, the immense frustration and anger and anxiety ulez is continuing anxiety that ulez is continuing to cause on the doorsteps of outer london and in particular my constituency is still there. >> so we need to be making sure that we keep the focus on on the abysmal ulez expansion that's been that's been imposed upon us. and we need to be taking that message through the that message through to the mayoral election. as i said on the media week , you know, a the media last week, you know, a lot calling lot of labour mps are calling for general election. for an early general election. let's early mayoral let's call for an early mayoral election see what election so that we can see what londoners think about londoners really think about their mayor sadiq khan. interesting hearing you interesting steve, hearing you say expect to be say you didn't expect to be standing say you didn't expect to be sta|a ing say you didn't expect to be sta|aing of mps will, say you didn't expect to be sta|a ing of mps will, you say you didn't expect to be sta|aing of mps will, you know, >> a lot of mps will, you know, style it out whether they're being genuine or not, that they fully that seat. fully expected to win that seat. and proved proved them

and history proved proved them to be the right person for the job. and you did win that seat on the motorist ticket , didn't on the motorist ticket, didn't you? but are you a bit frustrated , david, that the frustrated, david, that the conservative party itself isn't being a little more supportive of the motorists thinking particularly about this autumn statement today and there's nothing for fuel duty ? nothing in there for fuel duty? well we'll see what the autumn statement says about the impact it has on motorists. >> but, you know, my by—election victory was unexpected. you know, i was behind in the polls. the conservatives are behind in the national polls. it just goes to show that when we campaign on matters you know, matters of substance, you know, people turn to the people do turn to the conservative know conservative party as they know that will delivering that they will be delivering on their again, the their behalf. and again, the by—election uxbridge was by—election in uxbridge was central ulez, there was central to ulez, but there was a lot local issues as well, lot of local issues as well, such as, you making sure such as, you know, making sure that the hospital was rebuilt such as, you know, making sure that that hospital was rebuilt such as, you know, making sure thatthat hospit'khan; rebuilt such as, you know, making sure thatthat hospit'khan doesn't such as, you know, making sure thattiour|ospitrkhan doesn't such as, you know, making sure that tiour policeihan doesn't such as, you know, making sure thattiour police station.�*sn't such as, you know, making sure thattiour police station. sot close our police station. so there was a lot of local issues that were included in that as well. >> e“- el!“ ell-- e-— >> are you going to win at the general though, steve? general election, though, steve? >> i think there's going to be an incredible amount of hard work over the next well between

now and whenever the general election is called. so there's going an incredible amount going to be an incredible amount of but myself and my of hard work. but myself and my conservative colleagues will conservative mp colleagues will be incredibly hard, be working incredibly hard, you know, on the outputs of know, building on the outputs of today's autumn to today's autumn statement to ensure that we can campaign on matters substance the matters of substance with the british public will turn to when do want the election to be? do you want the election to be? well, that's that's not a matter for me . come on, steve. for me. come on, steve. >> you must have a conference to businesses . businesses. >> i don't actually. i think, you know, obviously we've got until january 20th, 25 is when the absolute drop dead date for the absolute drop dead date for the election can be. and it's really up to the prime minister and cabinet decide when and his cabinet to decide when the be right for the timing would be right for that. >> okay. all right. that's steve, tory mp steve, very diplomatic. tory mp for south ruislip, thanks for joining what a great bloke. joining us. what a great bloke. nice started off he nice to think he started off he was a postman in his constituency. >> brilliant, isn't it? >> brilliant, isn't it? >> i love seeing people like that alan johnson, that in politics. alan johnson, who to be labour's home who went on to be labour's home secretary and could have been a great leader. great labour leader. >> postman. is that >> he was a postman. is that right? started off as a

right? yeah started off as a postman, through postman, but then rose through the a leader of the ranks and became a leader of the ranks and became a leader of the union. he used to the postal union. he used to deliver chequers. deliver letters to chequers. >> you know. andrew >> the stuff you know. andrew pierce honestly. right. we're joining the studio household joining the studio by household finance expert greg marsh now. morning to see you. morning greg. good to see you. we're just trying to explain to our really what might our viewers really what might this autumn statement mean this autumn statement today mean for mean for all of us. for them? mean for all of us. can you give us a few details speculated aren't we? >> we don't exactly know what we're going to get. >> we kind of know. >> we kind of know. >> know because >> we kind of know because i think i think prime minister think i think the prime minister has lot of pressure has been under a lot of pressure to some real evidence that to show some real evidence that these economic improvements that we've have we've been talking about have begun through and people begun to show through and people are feel them. are going to feel them. the context matters. so over context really matters. so over the years, what's been the last six years, what's been happening been happening quietly has been stealth . so yeah, over stealth taxation. so yeah, over the last six years there's been an . can you get your an equivalent. can you get your head around this of a6p rise in income shocking. why? income tax? shocking. why? because of this thing called fiscal drag. means because fiscal drag. it means because the tax thresholds have remained constant.that the average wages it means that the average wages have increased, means that have increased, which means that we're all paying bit more tax, we're all paying a bit more tax, even tax numbers

even though the tax numbers haven't changed. the actual amount that we're paying as a proportion our salaries proportion of our salaries increased a lot for everybody, regardless of what tax bracket you're vary in tax you're in. it does vary in tax bracket, so people bracket, clearly. so. so people who've been below the tax threshold less threshold have been less affected but for affected by this. but for a typical family , you typical working family, you know, someone on a household income, let's say, of an individual income 27,000, individual income of 27,000, very income for someone very typical income for someone in uk. now the giveaway in the uk. now the giveaway that's been well trailed today is one p on national insurance , is one p on national insurance, right? that's a that's a big deal right? that's a that's a big deal. in other contexts . but in deal. in other contexts. but in this context, actually , if the this context, actually, if the tax thresholds don't move today and we've no indication that they will, but if they don't that one p that the chancellor might give back on the pound. that's about £130 a year equivalent for someone on that £27,000 income level. so actually the chancellor's taking away because the stealth tax is to p so 130in your pocket, which you weren't expecting. that's the good news. 230 odd out. so again, it's a little bit of a there's a little bit of footwork

going on here. and the reason this matters is that while they're various groups who have been fairly protected from the rising cost of living over the last few years, i mean, people on fixed income, for instance, pensioners, the triple lock and so been quite so on, have been quite protected. even those on the very lowest incomes, actually minimum have minimum wage incomes have increased in line with inflation, with working families have paid much higher cost and have paid a much higher cost and it's working families in particular who of course the conservative government needs to impress at the ballot box in the next election. and because they've borne of the they've borne the brunt of the cost crisis, i think cost of living crisis, i think all eyes are really on whether this give back this giveaway, this give back might headlines as the might win the headlines as the this afternoon or this evening. but will it actually win in people's pockets over christmas? it must so galling if you are it must be so galling if you are a part of that working family. >> 27,000, 30,000. not a huge amount money, to steve, know amount of money, to steve, know that the benefits are going to go that the benefits are going to 9° up that the benefits are going to 90 ”p by that the benefits are going to go up by 6.7. they're going to uprate with the inflation figure from a month ago. and they're they're those families. wages are not going to go up 6.7. and

if they do, if the thresholds don't change, they're going to be worse off again. >> yes, i mean, the issue isn't necessarily that wage increases for working families haven't broadly kept pace with inflation just in the last couple of months. we finally crossed this. >> but that's very recent, very recently crossed this threshold where household is where an average household is wages average worker's wages have increased just a little bit faster than prices are rising . faster than prices are rising. >> so maybe, maybe that's a bit better now over the next 12 months. but to make up for the challenges over the last 12 months let's put months and again, let's put a fine this, over the fine point on this, over the christmas season, we've turned our back on most our heating back on or most families turned their families have now turned their heating we now see heating back on. so we now see this, right? start to see this, right? we start to see people's bills rising people's energy bills rising again. now notionally on paper energy bills should be lower this christmas for most families, certainly the price cap has come down. the headline cost of energy has fallen. however, this time last year there was £400 on the table for every family from the chancellor as a giveaway to try to help

people deal with the living costs over that expensive winter penod costs over that expensive winter period where heating and lighting your home was hard. energy about to energy prices are about to rise a expecting get a bit. we're expecting to get the cap data in the the new price cap data in the next couple days again, next couple of days and again, we're see prices go we're expecting to see prices go up for energy net off that up a bit for energy net off that £400 and actually a typical household is not going to have any less outgoings around energy bills this christmas than they did last christmas. so that working family has had a brutal 12 month period. they've not seen their wages keep pace with inflation until now . things like inflation until now. things like energy is not going to be cheaper this christmas than it was last year. and even with a1p give back, they are still paying more in effective rates of tax than they were. what if we have a cold winter too? >> if we have a cold winter then they really are going to be seriously out of pocket. >> particularly tough for >> it's particularly tough for working , it's even working families, but it's even tougher several million tougher for the several million households energy households who are in energy poverty means effectively poverty that means effectively energy. poverty means that by the paid energy the time you've paid your energy bills and nothing else, you're

already below poverty line. already below the poverty line. there several million there are several million households now in that situation , and of have got to , and many of them have got to this point in 2023 have not having not been able to pay back their debts or credit card bills or other costs from last winter still. so, again , we're going still. so, again, we're going into christmas this year. households are facing very significant challenges in the future for many, haven't cleared the debts from the last 1218 months. so this is a very tough time for households in the uk. what we've seen across the board from our users at now says we've seen people who really aren't able to keep pace and are struggling to see where they can make ends meet. there are ways to money. can't resist to save money. i can't resist mentioning go to our mentioning that. go to our website but generally mentioning that. go to our website there's but generally mentioning that. go to our website there's no: generally mentioning that. go to our website there's no silver'ally speaking, there's no silver bullets. i wish we had more of them. >> what is your website address? >> what is your website address? >> save money on your >> norscot. save money on your household >> norscot. save money on your h0lbrilliant. greg marsh, >> brilliant. greg marsh, thank you much . brilliantly you so much. brilliantly explained. right . still explained. really right. still to come this morning, the chancellor says that will not chancellor says that he will not put levies on beer, and put up levies on beer, wines and spirits. we're to be spirits. we're going to be talking to very annoyed

talking to one very annoyed landlord next, adam brooks. he said that's no help here with britain's newsroom on .

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alcohol duty. >> the chancellor will not put up levies on beer, wines and spirits . spirits. >> so should we be celebrating? well, let's ask somebody who knows pub owner knows all about this pub owner and landlord, adam brooks, who of well known to gb of course is well known to gb views ers and listeners adam, are you doing cartwheels at the prospect of a freeze on alcohol duty ? duty? >> definitely not. even if i, you know, if i read your, your headuneit you know, if i read your, your headline it says chancellor to freeze duty on alcohol in a bid to boost pubs. how is not punishing us further a boost? you know, a cut is a boost . um, you know, a cut is a boost. um, i got very annoyed in august when they was doing all these the pr and celebrating in pubs, you know, mps pulling pints and things, saying that they'd helped us out, but they put the duty up on wine and spirits by quite a lot , by restructuring quite a lot, by restructuring the way they worked it out. i mean that cost us a good few hundred quid a week and, and again, you know, now we've got no help. pubs are closing sort of so often now. i think insolvencies are up by 66% year

on year for pubs . um, we've got on year for pubs. um, we've got the third highest alcohol duty in europe . it's ten times what in europe. it's ten times what germany's is. we need a massive cut, a massive rethink on this. so you know, how can how can i celebrate something that's going to cost us money down the line? they're putting the wages up. where do we find that extra money? we're already struggling in you know, this is in the pubs. you know, this is no boost . and i hate the way no boost. and i hate the way that they try and spin this as great news, you know? oh, great news. let's celebrate it. you're not going to hurt us even more. you know, it's rubbish. >> about your energy bills >> what about your energy bills at moment pub , adam, at the moment in the pub, adam, how looking this winter how are they looking this winter 7 how are they looking this winter ? are look, thankfully i'm coming to the end of a really hard , um, year or so that i've hard, um, year or so that i've had with, um, electric . had with, um, electric. >> i mean, i've been paying sort of £5,000 a month electric in a really small back street pub . really small back street pub. um, so it's huge . i mean, my um, so it's huge. i mean, my

contract changes soon. i've, i've renegotiated now, so that's coming down to about $3,000 per month. but people don't realise my utilities and my energy bills come to about £75,000 a year at this small pub. then i've got sort of 75, £80,000 a year rent. um you know, we know the business. i've been doing this 20 years. i grew up in pubs as well, but it's the hardest it's ever been . and the only way that ever been. and the only way that pubs will survive and hospitality will survive is if they do some sort of vat rate. like what the europeans do. you know , a lot of european know, a lot of european countries have a vat rate at around 10, 12% to encourage people to go out to keep prices down. but this chancellor and this pm, they seem so interested in big business, they do not understand that small business at and you know, a vat cut would help cash flow for many struggling pubs and hospitality businesses and it would bring down the price of many products. icannot

down the price of many products. i cannot see how they don't see this and i've spoke to many mps that said they have put this point to government and it just go it falls on deaf ears. adam do you think that there's an issue here? >> you look at jeremy hunt, you do not exactly imagine him having a pint at the bar of your pub . he's not a pub type, is he? pub. he's not a pub type, is he? and rishi of course, is and rishi sunak, of course, is famously teetotal . famously teetotal. >> he's definitely not. i mean, i was horrified. i this is not new news. you know , i was new news. you know, i was horrified that jeremy hunt become chancellor. this is the guy that wanted people locked up and removed from their houses dunng and removed from their houses during covid. you know, the guy the guy really doesn't think on the guy really doesn't think on the level of any of us. i really cannot get my head around why he was chancellor. but again , was made chancellor. but again, it's all business. they do it's all big business. they do not understand small business. we people within government we need people within government that understand the struggles of the businessmen , you know, the small businessmen, you know, and costs they cannot keep. and the costs they cannot keep. you know, we're paying for the higher wages. this doesn't come from government. they're going to to get more to they're going to get more money you know, this is

money in tax. you know, this is a win for them. but who pays a win win for them. but who pays these now? it's us. these higher wages now? it's us. where where do i get that money from? oh, i've got to put my pnces from? oh, i've got to put my prices up. you know , it's prices up. so, you know, it's like a death spiral for a pub . like a death spiral for a pub. the prices are just going to keep going up and up and it's the government's fault. keep going up and up and it's the do vernment's fault. keep going up and up and it's the do you �*nent's fault. keep going up and up and it's the do you see t's fault. keep going up and up and it's the do you see anything better >> do you see anything better from adam as you look from labour for adam as you look down towards the next 12 months? they're not talking the language of owner for, of the small business owner for, you , i mean labour scares you know, i mean labour scares the living daylights out of me. >> i've got to say, you know, some of some of their views and things, it really we're stuck between two really bad parties at the moment. so i mean, certainly neither of them are getting my vote at the next election unless something drastically changes. um, but one thing i've just got to keep reiterating it and the top hospitality bosses and the 19 hospitality bosses and the 19 hospitality keep saying cut that or we're in trouble . all i've or we're in trouble. all i've been saying this for, i think two, two and a half years , you two, two and a half years, you know, and i was laughed at at the start. but now it's grown

traction within hospitality that we need a vat rate sort of comparable with those in europe because lower prices, you know, it helps cash flow. it's the only way that they can help us. the business rates need to stay low. and i mean many people don't realise that pubs pay huge business rates as well. so it's been quite an unfair system for pubs over the years, business rates, but if they can keep them low , cut that and stop adding low, cut that and stop adding things like wage rises and that on us without helping us, then we might get through. but all i'm hearing from my whatsapp chats publicans restaurateurs is that they've got to try and survive through christmas and hope that january february isn't too bad when you're working in the pub and you're talking to normal people . normal people. >> adam that sense of political disenfranchisement or just sort of politically homeless ness that you've just described, is that you've just described, is that very typical? yeah certainly in my area, you know, my area is traditionally a

conservative voting area. >> we've got elena lang as our mp , not that i've ever seen or mp, not that i've ever seen or had help from her or had dialogue with her, but you know , dialogue with her, but you know, politics for me, all the trust has gone out of politics. i don't trust anything i see anymore, you know, and i go back to that august, um , alcohol duty to that august, um, alcohol duty sort of pr campaign that they did saying we're helping the pubs , we're doing this. i pubs, we're doing this. i actually had a bit of an argument with a sitting mp saying, you're talking rubbish. you you've just added a you know, you've just added a few hundred quid a week to to my my bills. and he almost said, no, impossible. said , no, that's impossible. i said, go back research and have a go back and research and have a look at what you've just done . look at what you've just done. and spirits and wines are going to up. you're not helping me to go up. you're not helping me at all, but you're celebrating it a cut or it's it like it's a cut or it's a boost like this. you know, the headunes boost like this. you know, the headlines are boost for pubs, you know, not taxing us more is not a boost. you can't celebrate not, you know, not doing

something. i just think it's so wrong . so, so wrong. wrong. so, so wrong. >> it is. adam thank you as always. i'd like to see adam brooks in the boxing ring with some of these mps. he's been doing quite a lot of amateur boxing recently . boxing recently. >> right, the alcohol >> and adam's right, the alcohol duty august the first duty went up on august the first sharply, said it was sharply, and they said it was because so on because of health. so on stronger stronger beer . stronger wine, stronger beer. and they said it's all about your all about your health. no, it's all about getting the bank. getting more money in the bank. and are they doing with it? and what are they doing with it? that's seeing any that's the point. we seeing any benefits, fabric of society, benefits, fabric of our society, pubs socialising and hospitality . adams pub is a cracker. >> i bet it's a cracker. all right. up next, it's your morning's news with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> good morning to you. it's 1132 here in the gb newsroom. the foreign secretary says the truce between israel and hamas is crucial step towards is a crucial step towards releasing hostages and providing humanitarian relief in gaza. the two sides have agreed a four day pause which is due to start in

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and we're talking about that autumn statement. and we're talking about that autit's1 statement. and we're talking about that autit's now tement. and we're talking about that autit's now barely. and we're talking about that autit's now barely 45 minutes >> it's now barely 45 minutes away. what are the public across the to hear? the uk hoping to hear? >> so let's go speak to jeff >> so let's go to speak to jeff moody in birmingham jack moody in birmingham and jack carson in exeter. >> jeff, you're at a christmas market. i love a christmas market. i love a christmas market. oh no. apparently jeff's not quite ready. jack carson in exeter. how are the people in exeter. how are the people in exeter feeling this morning about this incoming autumn statement in birmingham ? statement in birmingham? >> well, we're a little bit more north in exeter. however, in birmingham this morning at elevate property group . of elevate property group. of course, this property developer has over 30 experience has over 30 years experience here in the city, but also around the country as well. of course, constructing those properties as well then properties as well as then obviously selling them off both residential also residential and also commercially as well. we're joined by mike diskin, who's the group finance director. i mean, mike, ahead of this autumn statement by the statement today by the chancellor, i mean, he's saying the economy seems to be in a better shape . would you agree better shape. would you agree with what saying there ? with what he's saying there? >> we've certainly seen improvements late, improvements of late, the stabilisation interest rates

stabilisation of interest rates has helped and inflation has fallen . so that's got to be fallen. so that's got to be a good thing. so yeah, we're definitely much better shape definitely in much better shape than we were. >> mean, obviously the >> i mean, obviously the construction industry particularly has had, you know, that with inflation, that issue with inflation, particularly supplies . particularly around supplies. you guess it's for you you know, i guess it's for you as what's the as a business. what's been the impact , as a business. what's been the impact, particularly on costs and able to and actually being able to develop these properties, build these properties sell these properties to sell on well, materials for the well, raw materials for the contractors has increased significantly in the 18 significantly in the last 18 months try and pass months so that they try and pass those on to us. those costs on to us. >> that puts pressure on >> so that puts pressure on margins. it makes developments less attractive do . and less attractive to do. and obviously knows we need obviously everyone knows we need to build as many homes as we can. so inflation negatively impacts on that. >> i mean, how confident are you that if the chancellor does announce these cuts to taxes , announce these cuts to taxes, that they're not going to be inflationary, it is the inflationary, that it is the right time and we're not right time and that we're not going repeats of maybe going to see repeats of maybe what past what we've seen over the past year? think the tax >> i don't think the tax cuts will be inflationary. think will be inflationary. i think what drove the inflation in the last was, an last 18 months was, one, an increase money and increase in the money supply and also the problems in ukraine, the pressure on utility costs

that fed its way through the supply chain . so i don't think supply chain. so i don't think the tax cuts will be inflationary. >> i mean, obviously, particularly here in birmingham, it's youngest city in it's the youngest city in europe, know, helping those europe, you know, helping those first get on the first time buyers get on the market, is a big thing market, i guess, is a big thing for as a business. you for you as a business. you know, what chancellor do what could the chancellor do today that today or announce today that might give you a bit might kind of give you a bit more confidence that you can reach that market out? >> to encourage >> something to encourage the first buyers the first time buyers back into the marketplace? you know, interest costs maybe put them off in costs have maybe put them off in the months, something the last 12 months, something like the help to buy scheme that used place where there used to be in place where there was some support for them to acquire their first property. you know, would great you know, that would be great for a business. for us as a business. >> i mean, obviously we know , >> i mean, obviously we know, you know, of reports of housing problems across the country and not houses. not building enough houses. we know that is a problem. there are possible planning reforms that the chancellor might announce statement announce in this statement today. know, what would be today. you know, what would be the impact of reforms kind the impact of those reforms kind of in terms of of on your business in terms of being more being able to develop more properties ? properties? >> well, planning simplifies

version of the planning laws would be would be great for us. quite often we're up in quite often we're tied up in planning on sites for up to two years. know, delay years. you know, that's delay laying process of us laying the process of us actually building properties laying the process of us actugettinglding properties laying the process of us actu getting theg properties laying the process of us actugetting the homesroperties laying the process of us actu getting the homes to erties laying the process of us actu getting the homes to market. and getting the homes to market. so simplification of the planning laws probably the planning laws probably be the best thing they could do for our industry at the moment. best thing they could do for our ind i;try at the moment. best thing they could do for our indi mean, the moment. best thing they could do for our ind i mean, obviously, it. best thing they could do for our ind i mean, obviously, we know >> i mean, obviously, we know that rises to that there have been rises to corporation in the past as corporation tax in the past as well. there's no indication that thatis well. there's no indication that that is going to change and there's going to be no announcement that. is that announcement on that. is that a bit of an oversight? >> be good some >> it would be good to see some change on corporation tax. you know, rise 19% to 25% know, the rise from 19% to 25% is significant for anybody. so if they were able to include that of the breaks that in some of the tax breaks for business encourages business to work harder, make more money, generate more jobs, help grow the economy , that's going to be the economy, that's going to be a good thing. >> all right, thank you so >> all right, mike, thank you so much us. before much for joining us. before this statement a little on statement a little bit later on this afternoon. >> you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that was jack carson in birmingham . going to to jeff birmingham. going to go to jeff moody who at festive moody now, who is at a festive fair in exeter. jeff, morning .

fair in exeter. jeff, morning. >> good morning to you. well, there's around 100 stores here, so i'm already shopping like there's no tomorrow . people are there's no tomorrow. people are certainly turning out in droves. so the cost of living crisis hasn't doesn't seem to have prevented people from coming along to buy things. here's emma's soap says on the thing it's so much more than a bar of soap. let's see what that means. hello to you, emma. hello. in what way is your soap? more than a bar soap. a bar of soap. >> it's its ethos . >> it's its ethos. >> it's its ethos. >> it's its ethos. >> it's ecological, natural and sustainable. zero waste, plastic free and has there been a good market for that over the last year? >> how's trade been? >> how's trade been? >> trade's been good over the last decade as i built up the business, but the last year has been interesting and globally there's been a lot of conflict and that has affected the cost of materials because i suppose the main material for you is oil, isn't it? oils and butters. yeah, oils and butters. and if they go through the roof and price, then your product, you're selling price will increase.

>> so what does that meant for you? >> then i scaled down production over the summer and waited for the oils to drop in price . the oils to drop in price. there's no point making a bar of soap and then selling it at £7. so you actually found that you had to scale back your business because you just couldn't continue oil prices were so high. >> yeah. so what are you >> yeah. yeah. so what are you looking forward to hearing or what you hear? in what would you like to hear? in an ideal world? this afternoon from the chancellor, i'd like to hear environmental. hear would be environmental. >> i would there to be >> i would like there to be environmental taxes for those who do ignore the problems that we're having , waste for example, we're having, waste for example, i would like there to be environmental incentives for those of us who are actually doing something positive of. but there aren't . there's the good. there aren't. there's the good. i think he's bringing something out about investment, but where if you invest in your business, you can offset the taxes in one year rather than scaling over a penod year rather than scaling over a period of time. >> and that would help you, would it?

>> that would help, certainly, if you're going to a if you're going to change a vehicle because you could offset the year and it the cost. all in one year and it would help if you're refurbishing you know, refurbishing or, you know, moving or refurbishing or, you know, mooffice or refurbishing or, you know, mooffice something. or refurbishing or, you know, mooffice something. what or an office or something. what about insurance? about national insurance? >> they're saying that could go about national insurance? >> thywouldaying that could go about national insurance? >> thywould that that could go about national insurance? >> thywould that help could go about national insurance? >> thywould that help you?i go down. would that help you? do you staff national insurance? >> no , that wouldn't help. it >> no, that wouldn't help. it wouldn't help me personally. i think we need to pay a fair amount of national insurance because i feel that we need the nhs and all the other services that come under that umbrella . that come under that umbrella. but i'm not happy about the freeze on personal allowance in flation, which means the cost of items have gone up. so if you sell exactly the same amount of items that you did last year, it will be 10% more sales and your personal allowance hasn't gone up. so therefore you're getting taxed higher. so the poor are getting taxed and the rich are getting taxed and the rich are getting richer. >> okay, thank you very much. same old story. thank you very much indeed emma. much indeed for that, emma. greatly come greatly appreciated. i'll come

back and i'll buy some soap. but in meantime. yes. in the in the meantime. yes. in the meantime, talking to meantime, we're here talking to all and all the stallholders and customers. are in customers. so if you are in exeter, come down and tell us what think. what you think. >> . stephen pound and emma >> okay. stephen pound and emma webb, we're webb, we'll be back. we're building the building up to pmqs and the autumn . first, though, autumn statement. first, though, you're important you're very important weather forecast. >> afternoon. welcome to >> good afternoon. welcome to your news weather your latest gb news weather update . with me, annie from the update. with me, annie from the met office tonight will be a milder than last night for milder night than last night for most us, apart from in most of us, but apart from in the north where it will turn the far north where it will turn chillier this front chillier as this cold front starts to sink southwards, introducing much colder air from the north. but we've got that milder air in charge through the rest the day. so quite a lot rest of the day. so quite a lot of around some and of cloud around some rain and drizzle starting over drizzle starting to fall over the of wales as well, as the hills of wales as well, as well as northern areas of england. and much of scotland to northern ireland. also seeing some spits and spots of rain and drizzle evening. drizzle through this evening. but rain will be but the bulk of the rain will be restricted north western restricted to north western scotland. as i said, a milder night. so temperatures not falling digits falling much below double digits in towns and cities, but that colder air is starting to show

its face across the far north of scotland . that colder feel will scotland. that colder feel will become more widespread across scotland slowly throughout the day. temperatures tending day. so temperatures tending to fall the day here. fall through the day here. a different story , though, further different story, though, further south south of this south to the south of this weather front will see a similar day to today. plenty of cloud around for most areas. some sunshine and sunshine by the afternoon and not bad in any of not feeling too bad in any of that sunshine. the weather front, though, then does start to southwards head to sink southwards as we head into friday. so most of us seeing that cold air by friday morning are likely to see a bit more of a frost out there on friday morning. the far south—west holding on to a little more cloud , though, little bit more cloud, though, into of the day through into for much of the day through the weekend. we'll see that colder across the board , colder feel across the board, though. there'll still be plenty of sunshine to enjoy

>> got a pulse , right? >> got a pulse, right? >> got a pulse, right? >> we are back with you. good afternoon . we are about nine afternoon. we are about nine minutes away from pmqs. we're going to be taking that live you now you see who's in the studio and you'll know why chaos has ensued. it is stephen pound and emma course, the former emma webb, of course, the former labour mp stephen pound. >> two. >> good afternoon, you two. >> troublemakers. so we are looking forward to pmqs. it's going be bit going to be a little bit different today. stephen of course, because got the course, because we've got the autumn there as autumn statement in there as well. so does that well. and so does that make a bit of sort of mockery of the bit of a sort of mockery of the pmqs everyone's just pmqs bit because everyone's just waiting for the statement? >> yes no? waiting for the statement? >> ies no? waiting for the statement? >> i mean,o? waiting for the statement? >> i mean, the real problem is northern ireland questions,

which so which we've just had. and so everybody northern ireland everybody takes northern ireland very, yet very, very seriously. and yet nobody's even noticed it. but it's interesting because quite, quite clearly this is like the overture , you know, the overture towards, you know, the big symphony. and think the big symphony. and i think the snp have got the first question this afternoon. oswald this afternoon. kirsten oswald is going to be asking the first question it'll very question and so it'll be very interesting see what line interesting to see what line they however, i make they take. however, i make one prophecy, absolutely prophecy, i'm absolutely convinced that every single, you know that single chance know, that every single chance of wants to of the exchequer wants to produce a rabbit. yes i bet you that they'll do something for the motorist. they'll do something that actually say something that can actually say that we're support ing that we're actually support ing and the motorists. do and helping the motorists. do you up with just like you come up with just like gordon, that be too sensible. >> stephen that would be too much a vote. much of a vote. >> winner the trouble is you, you got no time for you people have got no time for the party. you the conservative party. you people me and the people like me and the democratic left. well, i quite like a bit opposition . like a bit of opposition. >> when you're 20 points behind in polls, you should be in the polls, you should be bold. >> yes, indeed. yeah >> yes, indeed. yeah >> got nothing left. >> you've got nothing left. nothing nothing to lose. >> it's going to be very difficult for them turn difficult for them to turn it around they might around now. so they might as well go.

>> be bold, be radical. >> be bold, be radical. >> well, gordon brown cut taxes on put them up on on whisky and put them up on cigarettes. yeah, he lost. >> yes, he did. >> yes, he did. >> emma, you think, though, >> emma, do you think, though, how this land the how does this land with the voters and tomorrow? voters today and also tomorrow? because hearing earlier because we were hearing earlier from expert about because we were hearing earlier fronfact expert about because we were hearing earlier fronfact that expert about because we were hearing earlier fronfact that if expert about because we were hearing earlier fronfact that if you're pert about because we were hearing earlier fronfact that if you're on, about the fact that if you're on, i think £27,000 a year is there will be you might find yourself £130 a year better off with the one off tax. but actually national insurance. but you're going to be paying £230 in stealth taxes that we just sort of end up paying. we don't really know. >> yeah, it's amazing how many people seriously people are getting seriously stealth taxed and even stealth taxed and don't even realise it. yeah, i like liam halligan suggestion of raising the threshold at which you start to pay tax because that just i mean, it makes so much sense. why wouldn't you do that? because then you're not paying all money in universal all of that money in universal credit who in part credit to people who are in part time work. >> that's richard of >> and that's richard tice of the that it the reform's policy that it would to 20,000. >> yeah, it makes makes a lot >> yeah, it makes it makes a lot of sense, i think. >> yeah. i think that frankly at this stage they should just go for leather. for it. hell for leather. the sensible for them to do

sensible thing for them to do would prioritise would be to prioritise motorists, businesses as there are many, so many things that are so many, so many things that they could do that would be vote winners , particularly in those winners, particularly in those safe seats, but also in the in the old red wall that became the blue wall. do i think they're going to i mean , they also do going to i mean, they also do something radical. >> they could then put clear blue water with the labour party, challenge labour to vote against whatever this great idea is. >> there are so many things that they you know, they could have done, you know, from but what emma from fracking, but what emma said just i have to say, a shiver ran down my spine when i heard her talking about that. it's like we back it's like we brought back cameron. now going to it's like we brought back came back now going to it's like we brought back came back truss? 1ow going to it's like we brought back came back truss? |sn going to it's like we brought back came back truss? is thising to it's like we brought back came back truss? is this when bring back truss? is this when you talk about really going going hell for leather? because believe i'd rather believe you me, that i'd rather her back than george osborne. >> frankly. >> frankly. >> well, that's >> yeah, well, that's a considered argument. econometric grounds rather than a personal dislike . dislike. >> let's see what some of our viewers have been saying at home about this statement. emma james has said, cut to mps wages before benefits . the whole

before benefits. the whole country will support a cut , a country will support a cut, a cut to these parasites wages as we do need to have politicians and you do need to attract people to the to the role mps are actually in the grand scheme of things, not paid that much compared to their european counterparts compared to what they'd be getting in the private sector responsibility . sector for less responsibility. >> that marvellous thing where they set the wages for meps, they set the wages for meps, they decided to set it at the level the highest amount of level of the highest amount of parliamentary expenses. funny, this immediately there this is immediately put up there , there, there, there , , there, there, there, there, there salaries for mps and everybody was then paid at the greek level . yeah, greece went bankrupt. >> greece did go bankrupt, you're right. >> so one the ways in which >> so one of the ways in which they very easily cut taxes they could very easily cut taxes would green would be to focus on green levies, wouldn't they won't levies, wouldn't it? they won't do no , that'd really, really popular. >> that be really opposed . >> that would be really opposed. and be opposed by labour? >> yeah. labour? >> would a penny off tax. i'm >> would be a penny off tax. i'm pretty sure about that. >> paul. >> paul. >> has got in touch. and he >> paul. >> like has got in touch. and he >> paul. >> like manyyt in touch. and he >> paul. >> like many conservative nd he said like many conservative voters, lost faith the voters, i've lost faith in the current administration. what would my faith? says paul. would renew my faith? says paul. in brief, a fiscally responsible

would renew my faith? says paul. in briefwith scally responsible would renew my faith? says paul. in briefwithscycurrent)onsible would renew my faith? says paul. in briefwithscycurrent national budget with a current national debtin budget with a current national debt in excess of 2.5 trillion is inappropri cut is wholly inappropri it to cut taxes is clearly the is taxes is clearly the country is living beyond its means and has been some time expecting been for some time expecting future generations to pick up the of our excesses the cost of our excesses is shameful embarrassing. emma shameful and embarrassing. emma do problem with people do we have a problem with people living beyond their means? it's normally like normally the young people like you spend too much money you who spend too much money on deliveroo feel deliveroo and avocados. i feel attacked , who get it, who get attacked, who get it, who get accused , who get accused of sort accused, who get accused of sort of living kind of profligately and not really, you know, saving for anything. and then complaining that the government aren't yeah. >> an addiction gales can >> no, an addiction to gales can be more expensive than an addiction to drugs. so addiction to hard drugs. so yeah, a coffee shop. addiction to hard drugs. so yeaall a coffee shop. addiction to hard drugs. so yeaall the a coffee shop. addiction to hard drugs. so yeaall the babiesee shop. addiction to hard drugs. so yeaall the babies are hop. addiction to hard drugs. so yeaall the babies are available. >> all the babies are available. >> all the babies are available. >> gales, big fan of >> big fan of gales, big fan of gales . i >> big fan of gales, big fan of gales. i think that the problem with this government is that for a conservative government, they have been so hard on business this and i think that that for me that is that is the obvious thing that they should be focusing on is actually rewarding people for being

independent, for taking responsibility and for being creative because that's what's going to create a better economy. and i think the problem is that they have decided incentivised people from doing that and young people in particular. yes, it's true. across the world we are a debt society , but young people in to society, but young people in to particular have hope for the future need to be incentivised, need to start their own businesses, to you started your own business shouldn't just just just a minute guys there's only one person really that would get the popcorn out for a day like today. >> that's tom harwood. emily carver to sit with him for carver has to sit with him for the three hours. the next three hours. >> peanuts popcorn? >> is it peanuts or popcorn? to ask our resident political geek why got the popcorn out. why he's got the popcorn out. >> well , i why he's got the popcorn out. >> well, i would hope that families across the country have got the popcorn out for today's double bill in parliament, not just the prime minister sir keir starmer, but also jeremy hunt and rachel reeves. i can't think of anything more exciting than than what we're going to see for

the next potentially hour on our screens. no , absolutely screens. but no, absolutely popcorn and perhaps perhaps popcorn out and perhaps perhaps even we should get out some prosecco if there are going to be cuts. that well, be tax cuts. that is. well, that's the thing. >> . >> crucially. >> crucially. >> what does it mean for you at home? >> what does it mean for you at horwe'll out. >> we'll find out. >> we'll find out. >> or sour. >> this sweet or sour. >> this sweet or sour. >> you're talking my >> now you're talking my language. or salty language. yeah. sweet or salty on a day like today. >> salty . >> salty. >> salty. >> it going to be sweet >> is it going to be sweet or salty? this awesome statement, stephen well, golden of stephen well, the golden rule of autumn is stephen well, the golden rule of altheyi is stephen well, the golden rule of althey look is stephen well, the golden rule of althey look good is stephen well, the golden rule of althey look good on is stephen well, the golden rule of althey look good on day, is if they look good on the day, they look in the morning, they look bad in the morning, they look bad in the morning, they unravel within 48 hours. >> remember? cornish pasty tax, caravan ? caravan tax? >> i do. >> i do. >> god, we're we must be the only people here. >> 2012 it was 2012. george osborne shot the tory party in the foot. >> certainly did. and what about let's just about jeremy let's just talk about jeremy hunfs let's just talk about jeremy huras let's just talk about jeremy hura little bit before we see >> a little bit before we see this. have the this. he doesn't have the charisma or the warmth to get these across, even if these messages across, even if good dance actually saw . good news dance actually saw. >> i mean, i agree. but i did i did give a pretty good did see him give a pretty good speech at the spectators spectator awards one year. he does have it in him, but he's

not particularly charismatic . not particularly charismatic. but is that what you want from a chancellor? him to chancellor? i don't like him to look he cares about the look like he cares about the country. think i country. and i think he's i think want to see is i think what we want to see is i think what we want to see is i think has think that this country has become unserious , is being run become unserious, is being run by unserious people . and we by unserious people. and we would like to see some serious people charge. charisma is people in charge. so charisma is important . yes, not necessarily important. yes, not necessarily as for the chancellor as important for the chancellor as important for the chancellor as it is for the prime minister yeah, we want to see people yeah, but we want to see people who actually thinking things who are actually thinking things through, moving away from the short termism, even though of course they'll have it in the back of their mind that they're likely to lose the next general election. what want election. i think what we want to serious. to see is serious. >> seeing the signs long term thinking backdrop all >> seeing the signs long term thin prime backdrop all >> seeing the signs long term thinprime ministersdrop all >> seeing the signs long term thinprime ministers adults, all >> seeing the signs long term thinprime ministers adults, long the prime ministers adults, long term thinking. >> hunt used to the >> jeremy hunt used to have the office immediately mine in office immediately above mine in one and when one parliament street, and when i discovered he was i discovered that he was a champion lambada dancer who who'd to south america? who'd been to south america? >> he's not. is true as >> no, he's not. he is true as god years running. god for three years running. >> take part >> yeah. to actually take part in that's can't be true. >> it's much more probably finer than he is doing the lambada. >> you sit there, you tangerine

dream. you sit there denying , dream. you sit there denying, you know, trust me, i used to be a politician. you know, trust me, i used to be a pand:ian. you know, trust me, i used to be a pand ofl. you know, trust me, i used to be a pand of course, you know, it's >> and of course, you know, it's a dark it's about passion. a dark it's all about passion. lampard all about passion. lampard is all about passion. >> so i have to say, if anyone should know, jeremy hunt would ace it. >> i mean, jeremy hunt. >> i mean, jeremy hunt. >> i mean, jeremy hunt. >> i think jeremy hunt will lose his seat at the next election and he will be serious and he will be a serious candidate in strictly. candidate to go in strictly. >> well, he might lose his seat before election. might before the election. he might lose chancellor. lose the position of chancellor. sorry, before the election, because the because i think i think the tories are determined get tories are determined to get a woman there spike guns woman in there to spike the guns of party, which want of the labour party, which want rachel reeves to be the first ever woman chancellor. >> they so mean >> would they be so mean spirited petty? yes. spirited and so petty? yes. >> think would >> yes. do you think they would bnng >> yes. do you think they would bring truss ? bring back liz truss? >> be her. >> it won't be her. >> it won't be her. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> although she would like to be chancellor. heard her chancellor. i have heard her saying we're counting on. chancellor. i have heard her say if; we're counting on. chancellor. i have heard her say if you're ne're counting on. chancellor. i have heard her say if you're juste counting on. chancellor. i have heard her say if you're just tuning ng on. chancellor. i have heard her say if you're just tuning in on. chancellor. i have heard her say if you're just tuning in now, >> if you're just tuning in now, emily be taking you emily and tom will be taking you through afternoon, through with. good afternoon, britain talking you through the autumn statement this afternoon. we've got pmqs and then we've got jeremy hunt is going to be delivering to you what your economic what your economic situation, what your financial situation might look