>> happy saturday one and all. it is 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan. kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan . tonight, this is mark dolan. tonight, your perfect saturday night in in my big opinion, cyclists think the highway code doesn't apply to them. it's time for bikes to have a registration number so they can be accountable. at last, look at that numpty also has poor old huw edwards been hung out to dry ? huw edwards been hung out to dry .7 is huw edwards been hung out to dry ? is it huw edwards been hung out to dry .7 is it time that he was back on the telly in the big story? was cliff richard right to eat shame? elvis presley. and with nike now designing extra wide clothes for young people, is it time to put britain's fat kids on a crash diet? and looking forward to this. in my take at ten, the bbc licence fee is predicted to reach almost £200 in the next five years. is it worth the money? i'll give my verdict shortly. and it's not for the faint hearted . i can

for the faint hearted. i can tell it's going to be a special show tonight. we've got some amazing guests, amazing pundits, some noisy stories to some very noisy stories to debate. plus, we've got a dream team. the other side of the camera, lottie's back in the house and producer greg has returned. he's been in mexico . i returned. he's been in mexico. i don't know why, but i'm assuming sex tourism or narcotics . so two sex tourism or narcotics. so two hours of big opinion, big debate and lots of entertainment along the way. you've made the right choice for a saturday night . choice for a saturday night. i'll see you after the news with aaron armstrong . aaron armstrong. >> thank you very much indeed, mark. yes, good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the israeli military says been significant says there's been significant progress in efforts to secure the release of further hostages progress in efforts to secure the rbyase of further hostages progress in efforts to secure the rby hamas urther hostages progress in efforts to secure the rby hamas following tages progress in efforts to secure the rby hamas following an es held by hamas following an earlier delay. hamas halted proceedings after accusing israel of violating the terms of the truce agreement by not allowing aid trucks to enter northern gaza. that's now being

resolved following mediation by eqypt resolved following mediation by egypt and qatar . and the idf egypt and qatar. and the idf says hostage relief efforts are now underway . hamas says hostage relief efforts are now underway. hamas is says hostage relief efforts are now underway . hamas is expected now underway. hamas is expected to transfer 13 israeli hostages to transfer 13 israeli hostages to the red cross at the rafah border crossing with egypt. seven foreign nationals will also be released. and if the exchange goes ahead, israel has agreed to release 39 palestinians from this prison in the west bank. it comes on day two of a four day pause in fighting . meanwhile, a four year fighting. meanwhile, a four year old girl released yesterday after being held captive by hamas told her father she dreamed of coming home. raz asher, her two year old sister, aviv, and her mother, doron, were released and reunited with yoni asher on friday on the first stage of the israel—hamas deal first stage of the israel—hamas deal. well, 24 hostages were freed in total yesterday. a number of those were taken to the schneider children's hospital , where authorities say hospital, where authorities say they've been responding well to

medical treatment . the met medical treatment. the met police has arrested 18 people dunng police has arrested 18 people during pro—palestine minion protests in london. four have been arrested on suspicion of distributing material likely to stir racial hatred and two on suspicion of supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation in the. the arrest took place as tens of thousands of people marched through central london calling for a ceasefire the former police officer convicted of murdering george floyd has been stabbed at a prison in arizona. that's according to reports in the united states . it's understood united states. it's understood derek chauvin survived the attack by another inmate on friday, but has been seriously injured. it comes days after the supreme court rejected his appeal. the 47 year old argued he hadn't received a fair trial. mr chauvin is serving multiple sentences for george floyd's death in 2020, which led to widespread protests against police brutality and racism and

is likely to be another cold night, perhaps the coldest of the autumn season. later, with subzero temperatures across many parts of the country , it comes parts of the country, it comes after many areas experienced their first frost of the year , their first frost of the year, with temperatures well below freezing last night across northwestern england and in the south, temperatures could go as low as minus seven, minus four in parts of rural wales. the met office is also predicting snow, which could fall next week . we which could fall next week. we are live across the uk on tv, digital radio and on your smart speaker too. that's it for the moment . for now, back to . mark moment. for now, back to. mark >> my thanks to aaron armstrong who i happen to know is wearing his thermals tonight. well come to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, cyclists think the highway code doesn't apply to them . it's time for bikes to them. it's time for bikes to have a registration number so they can be accountable at last. in the big story with cliff richard, write to fat shame,

elvis presley. and with nike now designing extra wide clothes for young people , is it time to put young people, is it time to put britain's fat kids on a crash diet ? my mark britain's fat kids on a crash diet? my mark meets guest is britain's leading expert on political cartoons, tim benson, who is what's known as a cartoon ologist . fascinating stuff. ologist. fascinating stuff. you'll love some of the cartoons we've got for you . looking we've got for you. looking forward to this in my take at ten, in just an hour's time, the bbc licence fee is predicted to reach almost £200 a year within five years. is it worth the money? i'll give my verdict shortly. and that one is not for the faint hearted. also, harry and meghan's favourite journalist has written a tell all book which threatens more chaos and bad headlines for the royal family. we'll get the inside story from the queen of us royal reporting kinsey schofield . plus, in a busy show, schofield. plus, in a busy show, we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits who were off message and off the script , but they haven't been

script, but they haven't been told what to say and they don't follow a narrative. tonight, chloe dobbs aidan magee and christopher biggins . tonight, christopher biggins. tonight, i'll be asking the pundits , has i'll be asking the pundits, has poor old huw edwards been hung out to dry? is it time he was back on telly and our vegans are menace. plus the most important part of the show. your emails , part of the show. your emails, they come straight to my laptop. mark gbnews.com and this show has a golden rule. do you know what that rule is? it's a very strict rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. your perfect saturday night in it's brass monkeys outside. so get the kettle on and let's start with my big opinion . we've all been the opinion. we've all been the victim of a lycra clad cyclist, haven't we? flying past you as they mount the pavement, causing a near collision as they jump the red lights or dart in front of you as you attempt to cross

the road? don't take my word for it. here's an example of the madness that happens on britain's roads. speedy you today. >> celebrities . speedy. oh awful >> celebrities. speedy. oh awful stuff . stuff. >> both at fault on that one. i'd say. but some of these cyclists are seriously fit and they've got the horsepower in their calf muscles to really speed along, making them a hazard to pensioners and children in particular as well as, of course, to themselves . as, of course, to themselves. and now they're motorised even an overweight, unfit 50 something bloke ate who's too many burgers and drunk too many pints of guinness has now been transferred , formed into lance transferred, formed into lance armstrong , not thanks to armstrong, not thanks to steroids or blood transfusions, but a bloody great motor and battery on his electric bike. electric bikes and scooters are extraordinarily powerful and fast and whilst motorcyclists like me have to do a test, wear

a helmet and pay vast insurance , a helmet and pay vast insurance, people on electric bikes doing similar speeds pay nothing . similar speeds pay nothing. which is why i was delighted to read that the former met police commissioner lord hogan—howe has said bicycles should have number plates so that dangerous cyclists can be caught. he said cyclists can be caught. he said cyclists were entirely unaccountable and some kind of identification on the bike could help reduce dangerous riding . help reduce dangerous riding. the telegraph report government figures that show between 2016 and 2021, 2500 pedestrian were injured after being hit by pedal bikes. this included 50 mean fatality is currently a cyclist who kills can be prosecuted and jailed for two years under a victoria law for furious and wanton driving and that law was drawn up for horse drawn carriages. however motorists face a life sentence if charged

and convicted of the same crime . and convicted of the same crime. now, i don't want to discourage cycling. i take the unfashionable view that the cycle lanes , if used, are cycle lanes, if used, are a great addition on to our transport infrastructure for cycling is good for your health. it produces zero pollution and it's true that a bicycle has the potential to do far less damage than any motor vehicle in many ways, we should be thankful for cyclists. they're responsible for cleaner air. they're keeping themselves fit and any city dominated by bicycles such as cambridge or amsterdam provides an excellent quality of life for all but cyclists also benefits from the infrastructure provided. and as many more every year put the pedal to the metal, they should quite literally be saddled with some of the costs. i think cyclists should have some kind of basic insurance policy in case they hurt themselves or someone else, and maybe they should pay a tax for

those expensive cycle lanes . those expensive cycle lanes. also, bicycles are increasing being used by criminals for violent crime and robberies . so violent crime and robberies. so a national database of registered station numbers for each bicycle would drag cycling kicking and screaming into the 21st century. it would make cyclists accountable at long last. now most cyclists are brilliant. i've got friends and family members who have given up driving using the bus or trains long ago for the freedom that two wheels delivers . but the two wheels delivers. but the popularity of this form of transport must be matched by some responsibility . too many some responsibility. too many cyclists have a mind of their own and simply do what they want to do. traffic laws and the highway code don't apply to them putting all of us at risk. so it's putting all of us at risk. so wsfime putting all of us at risk. so it's time for a national register duration scheme of bicycles . and for those that bicycles. and for those that don't like it on your bike .

don't like it on your bike. your reaction? mark at gbnews.com. they come straight to my email . gbnews.com. they come straight to my email. i'll get to your emails very, very shortly. but first, let's hear from tonight's top pundits, political commentator chloe dobbs, broadcaster and journalist aidan magee and showbiz royalty, actor and comedian and a man that looks excellent in lycra , looks excellent in lycra, christopher biggins. biggins, have you ever been on the wrong end of a bicycle? >> many times. and what do you know what annoys me most ? and i know what annoys me most? and i think without doubt they should have a license plate. i mean, thatis have a license plate. i mean, that is and they should be insured. i mean, it's very important because they have their own rules . like, for their own rules. like, for instance, i'm convinced this is a rule they break every day is a zebra crossing. and as a as a as a motorist, i approach the zebra crossing . there are people crossing. there are people crossing. there are people crossing and then cycle lists,

drive or ride across it. now, i don't think that is in the in the highway code. i think if you pushit the highway code. i think if you push it over, you walk and push it. that is fine. push it over, you walk and push it. that is fine . but riding it it. that is fine. but riding it over , cycling it over is really over, cycling it over is really wrong. so i'm really strongly think that cyclists, they have everything they do is wrong . i everything they do is wrong. i mean and they get so aggressive with you, they really do . they with you, they really do. they sort of they they sort of shout at you and they put fingers up at you and they put fingers up at you and they put fingers up at you and they do every thing. and almost if they could, they throw things at a motorist. they're hideous . well, definitely. >> and they think they own the roads, and they don't roads, chloe, and they don't think, of them, that the think, many of them, that the highway code relates to them . highway code relates to them. >> i am going to disagree with some of what you've said. i'm afraid there are many cyclists that really me grind my gears. if you pardon, i've had people swear at me. i've had people put their middle finger up on me. i both cycle and drive. i've been on both sides, but i really think that forcing them to have

number plates and adding a load of bureaucracy will push so many people out cycling. now, people out of cycling. now, i agree are plenty of agree that there are plenty of cyclists who just cyclists on the road who just don't where they're going. don't look where they're going. i plenty going i see plenty of people going around with both of their airpods in completely unaware of their surroundings. i think that airpods in completely unaware of theibetterundings. i think that airpods in completely unaware of theibetter approach think that the better approach to solve this better education. this would be better education. so i was school i did so when i was in school i did the bikeability scheme, which many children have done, many other children have done, and incredible. they and that was incredible. they taught so much about road taught you so much about road safety, you had pass the safety, you had to pass the qualification and then you would have your and knew have your badge and you knew that know how to operate on that you know how to operate on the road as cyclist. did they the road as a cyclist. did they teach you? >> they teach you how to >> did they teach you how to swear at drivers? swear at bmw drivers? >> they they didn't they didn't. >> they they didn't they didn't. >> life skill. they didn't >> good life skill. they didn't teach but they they teach me that. but but they they did teach me of good did teach me a lot of good stuff, you know, as they say, you don't much you you don't know how much you don't until you start don't know until you start learning. started learning. and when i started learning. and when i started learning realised, oh, learning that, i realised, oh, you don't know what the you know, i don't know what the appropriate hand signal are appropriate hand signal is are in different situations. i don't know to approach know exactly how to approach a roundabout exactly roundabout as a cyclist, exactly how approach junction how to approach a junction as a cyclist. you all of cyclist. they teach you all of

that. maybe they could that. so maybe they could make it requirement the national it a requirement on the national curriculum children do curriculum that children do this. think that adding this. i don't think that adding a load of bureaucracy is really necessary. and another thing that i will say is come in there. >> i think it was it was on the it was on the national curriculum at one time. i did a cycling proficiency test in march 1988, and i failed. >> oh, no, they wouldn't let you on the road stand. okay. if it's not on the national curriculum, it should be added. i also it should be added. but i also want say is that as a want to say is that as a cyclist, if you do skip a red light, most of time, the light, most of the time, the risk you're taking there, you're putting at risk. putting yourself at risk. whereas car driver, you whereas if as a car driver, you skip red light and you hit skip a red light and you hit someone, potentially you could kill injure them. kill them, severely injure them. whereas a cyclist , i whereas usually as a cyclist, i know, okay, if i'm going across a red light the middle of the a red light in the middle of the night and nobody's there , if night and nobody's there, if i get i'm probably one get hit, i'm probably the one that's going be hurt. you that's going to be hurt. you know, that you're know, that's a risk that you're taking. think it is as taking. i don't think it is as much of a big deal as a car skipping a red now, you skipping a red light. now, you mentioned pedestrians being hurt, but figures there, you hurt, but the figures there, you

showed people killed between showed 15 people killed between 2016 and 20, 21 pedestrians killed. that is tiny compared to the people that die car the 1700 people that die in car accidents year. you know, accidents every year. you know, is it really that big of a problem? um, as annoying as cyclists can be from time to time? >> well, i quoted 2500 incidents with pedestrians, including serious injury and 15 sad deaths. >> but i think that's a drop in the ocean. i think that's the tip of the iceberg to mix my metaphors. aiden what i'm really worried about now is these electric bicycles. they have an electric bicycles. they have an electric motor on them. aiden these are vehicles, not pushbikes . pushbikes. >> i want to take you back in time, mark, mark and my panel guests here. i want to take you back to 2012. i was driving through islington in north london through upper streets and i settled at a red light and i looked around me and i was just surrounded by cyclists. >> i was on the peloton effectively. i was bradley wiggins in a silver ford mondeo , wiggins in a silver ford mondeo, and i felt a little bit

suffocated , if i may say. i've suffocated, if i may say. i've always felt that councils have used cyclists to try and not necessarily run motorists off the road, but certainly in areas like islington, i felt they'd been used to kind of for expediency purposes to kind of intimidate drivers or to make me think it's not really worth driving through the through town anymore because it's just so difficult actually get off difficult to actually get off the time all the the mark by the time all the cyclists have past the cyclists have gone past me, the light was virtually amber light was virtually on amber again to back to again and back to and back to red. having having been on green until recently, i doing until recently, i was doing 60,000 year. so most of 60,000 miles a year. so most of that was motorway driving. i didn't encounter cyclists that often, but i do find them aggressive time to time. i aggressive from time to time. i have a fight have been challenged to a fight on. i think it was chelsea bridge somewhere in about that was about 2014, actually. i didn't. i declined. thankfully, the turned green. i was the light turned green. i was able through. in able to pass through. but in terms the identification terms of the identification issue, strongly for issue, i felt that strongly for a good ten, 12 years. i think a reg plate, i don't think it would incur that much bureaucracy a digital age. i bureaucracy in a digital age. i think i think that would be a difficult to do. difficult thing to do. >> until you do that, i

>> and until you do that, i mean, a lot of people have like five bikes, right? you've got a road bike, you've got mountain bike, you've road bikes with bike, you've got road bikes with different width tires, people, people than one car. people more than one car. >> got more than one car. >> i've got more than one car. yeah exactly. >> people have many but do >> people have many cars. but do you have five cars? >> think that >> i don't think that many people have five cars. >> think that many >> i don't think that many people have five bikes. well, there go. people have five bikes. well, the what go. think? should >> what do you think? should they >> what do you think? should the should they be to be insured? >> i think they should be insured for the as much as anything else for their own safety. that if i go near safety. i know that if i go near a cyclist, then even even if i even if i'm not at fault, there's no way in the world i'm going to that court case. going to win that court case. absolutely because they're absolutely not. because they're untouchable. they're if untouchable. and if they're if they're wearing helmets as well, they're wearing helmets as well, they're in they're not easy to identify in any i think plate any other way. i think reg plate is bad way to it. and is not a bad way to do it. and in digital age, i don't think in a digital age, i don't think it's a difficult begins begins. >> know you were going to >> i know you were going to ejaculate there and let me help you family show. careful. you family show. be careful. we've all a drink. the issue we've all had a drink. the issue you've begins is that if you've got begins is that if there's a collision involving a cyclist, even if it's their fault, you get the blame when

the up. the cops turn up. >> absolutely. are the guilty >> absolutely. we are the guilty ones. motorists on ones. the motorists on the street i want to street and that noise. i want to ask you, when you drive, when you're in a cycle and you come across traffic and we're across a traffic light and we're all motorist is there all there, the motorist is there because he can't move. and they very do move because very rarely do move because the light you go light is red. and you you go through light. through that light. >> rarely do . after i was >> i rarely do. after i was pulled over by the police for going over pedestrian crossing at about five in the morning when there was not a pedestrian in sight. so i'm constantly looking behind me, looking for the police. you go. the police. there you go. >> tell you what, then. >> i tell you what, since then. >> i tell you what, since then. >> so do go after the >> so they do go after the cyclists. it's all coming out now and they'll go after you for not not having on your not not having lights on your bike well, which so the bike as well, which so the police, in, more of police, if they step in, more of people having lights, bike, people not having lights, bike, maybe they'll behave better. but people not having lights, bike, may agree y'll behave better. but people not having lights, bike, may agree that)ehave better. but people not having lights, bike, may agree that there; better. but people not having lights, bike, may agree that there is etter. but people not having lights, bike, may agree that there is this'. but i do agree that there is this sort of war on motorists, not just this, ulez just with this, but with ulez and sorts things. and all sorts of things. motorists seen as devils motorists are seen as devils when really not the case. when that's really not the case. >> i think there's a way to coexist, though. mark has coexist, though. mark there has to way forward. yeah a way forward. >> nicely done. well, listen,

folks, a very busy show come. folks, a very busy show to come. i'll with the bbc at i'll be dealing with the bbc at 10:00. that is in exactly 42 minutes time. my take at ten. you won't to miss it. box you won't want to miss it. box office but up next office stuff. but coming up next in story was cliff in the big story was cliff richard to shame? richard right to fat shame? elvis and nike now elvis presley. and with nike now designing wide clothes for designing extra wide clothes for young , it time to put young people, is it time to put britain's fat a crash britain's fat kids on a crash diet? plus in an exclusive poll we've been asking , should we've been asking, should cyclists number plates ? the cyclists have number plates? the results are in. i shall reveal all

people haven't. i mean, come on, go to certain areas of london. they are ethnic enclaves. >> earlier on gb news radio . >> earlier on gb news radio. well, a big reaction to my big opinion . opinion. >> i think that cyclists should have number plates and insurance . well, you've responded strongly on email market. gbnews.com mark has said good evening. only today i witnessed a pedestrian having to step into the road to get out of the way of a lunatic on an electric scooter who was approaching her at 20 mile an hour. david says hi mark. i've been hit by

cyclists on a number of occasions and all the cyclists did was check their bikes before seeing how i was as stephen said, hi mark roads weren't built for bikes. bikes are not built for bikes. bikes are not built for bikes. bikes are not built for roads. those built for bikes. bikes are not built for roads . those cyclists built for roads. those cyclists would disagree. bikes on pavements being naturally slowed by pedestrians would be much safer for, says steve. well look, it's all about opinions. do you get yours over to me, mark at gbnews.com. we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking should all cyclists have obligatory number plates? the results are in 77.4% say yes and 22.6% say no . say yes and 22.6% say no. >> yes, that's a landslide . >> yes, that's a landslide. >> yes, that's a landslide. >> and another victory for begins . who has his finger on begins. who has his finger on the pulse of the nation? okay lots to get through. but before we get to the big story and cliff richard, let's head over to the news desk . to the news desk. >> thanks, mark. and we bring you some breaking news from the middle east. some positive news

as well . middle east. some positive news as well. hamas has middle east. some positive news as well . hamas has reportedly as well. hamas has reportedly handed 13 israeli hostages . and handed 13 israeli hostages. and seven foreign nationals over to the red cross and they are on their way to the rafah border crossing. that is the crossing in southern gaza with egypt . in southern gaza with egypt. it's being reported widely in including reuters news agency. they've cited egyptian and qatari sources. the live picture you're seeing is the rafah crossing, where we expecting that handover to take place, as it's been confirmed, as we mentioned, by the israeli military , by hamas, also by military, by hamas, also by eqypt military, by hamas, also by egypt and qatar , who have been egypt and qatar, who have been mediating on the hostage release deal mediating on the hostage release deal. now, there was a delay to this process earlier, a short delay. hamas temporarily suspended the agreement because it said israel was not sticking to the terms of the agreement that they had, the terms of the truce and the israeli defence force was not letting aid trucks into northern gaza from that rafah crossing. well, qatar and eqypt rafah crossing. well, qatar and egypt stepped in. that was

resolved and it looks like the exchange will go ahead and the terms will be along these lines. 13 israeli hostages in exchange for 39 palestinian prisoners who are being held in a jail in the west bank. we expect that to go ahead as it did indeed yesterday. the exact same numbers, palestinians will be released. it comes on day two of what is a four day pause in the fighting. we understand it will be women and minors. the palestinians , as from that jail palestinians, as from that jail in the west bank, just like it was yesterday. and the numbers were exactly the same yesterday. 13 israelis, in exchange for 39 palestinians, 11 thai nationals were released yesterday. that was part of a separate deal between thailand and hamas. and as i mentioned, just day two of this four day pause, although under the terms of the original agreement, for every ten more israeli hostages , those that are israeli hostages, those that are released, well, the idf say they will add an extra day pause to

the fighting. so we hope to see many more hostages released in the coming days. and the pause, the coming days. and the pause, the ceasefire, the temporary ceasefire could go on for some time. but for the moment, we understand that that is now happening. 13 israeli hostages being handed over to the red cross at the rafah crossing. they'll go into egypt soon, along with seven foreign nationals . that's the breaking nationals. that's the breaking news. back to you now. mark >> thank you very much aaron. well, it's time now for the big story in cliff richard has sparked outrage in a fat shaming row about elvis presley appearing on itv's this morning with dermot o'leary and alison hammond, cliff richard, who was there to publicise his new book about his amazing career in pop, said he refused a photo with elvis on the grounds of his weight . take elvis on the grounds of his weight. take a listen. >> we ever meet elvis at the end of the interview, though, i said , can we put it off? >> because he was he put on a lot of weight. and i thought, if i'm having a photograph taken

with him and it's going to be hanging on my refrigerator , he's hanging on my refrigerator, he's got to look . good got to look. good >> okay. well, lively stuff. let's speak to the weight loss guru , the man behind the website guru, the man behind the website fat gnosis , which has helped fat gnosis, which has helped many people lose weight. steve miller and a man who knows cliff richard very well, my top pundit. tonight, showbiz legend christopher . let me christopher biggins. let me start with you, steve. do you think that cliff richard was guilty shaming ? okay, guilty of fat shaming? okay, we're just getting the audio to steve. just bear with us for that. if you don't mind. let me talk to you. biggins whilst we get the line to steve properly established, first of all, your reaction to what your friend cliff richard had say on this morning? >> well, i think, you know, when you have a hero and undoubtedly elvis presley was cliff's hero, he wasn't a pop star when he first heard cliff richard. i think he was he heard him in a car. someone's car, radio, and they tried to run out of the car

to find out what this wonderful voice was. and of course, elvis presley in those early days was a very, very handsome man. and i think he was just gorgeous. and anyone would have wanted a photograph. he then became grotesque. he then became not only fat, but he became it was the whole image went there was something that went really bad with him . and something that went really bad with him .and i something that went really bad with him . and i think then cliff with him. and i think then cliff , what he meant was he didn't want really that image on his fridge . and i think it was quite innocent. >> he wanted to remember elvis in the best possible light . in the best possible light. >> absolutely. absolutely. it's like all of us, i suppose. you know, there are certain people who like to be photographed with my hero, elton john, another friend of yours, met elvis in in the mid—seventies . the mid—seventies. >> and he was bloated. he was ill, he was sickly. and he had hair dye trickling down his cheek. hair dye trickling down his cheek . and elton said he'd cheek. and elton said he'd rather not have met him under those circumstances. >> absolutely . and i think >> absolutely. and i think i think that's absolutely right. and that's what meant. and that's what cliff meant. okay >> well, get the views

>> well, let's get the views now. steve miller, we've put £0.10 in the metre and steve, your reaction to this massive showbiz storm? well i think it's completely blown out of proportion . proportion. >> it's the first thing to say. first of all, we've got wars around the world. we've got a cost of living crisis. and what are we talking about? someone that a question on a that answers a question on a chat show. he told the truth. i mean, and he wasn't fat mean, listen. and he wasn't fat shaming. was telling the shaming. he was just telling the truth. the other thing to say is, mean, if he'd have gone on is, i mean, if he'd have gone on the and said, you know, the sofa and said, you know, it's started singing something like , you know, like confabulations, you know, the song and maybe maybe that would have been different. but i'm sorry . would have been different. but i'm sorry. listen, he answered the question and the outrage came from many of the namby pamby lot , especially those in pamby lot, especially those in london. may i say , who think london. may i say, who think that every time you're talking about somebody's weight, your fat shaming . i think he just fat shaming. i think he just made a comment. he just fat shaming. i think he just made a comment . he just wanted made a comment. he just wanted to remember him as he was. and if was a photo with if he was having a photo with him, fair enough. he wanted him, then fair enough. he wanted wanted with him and wanted a photo with him and looking healthy and well. just

looking healthy and well. i just don't i think it was blown don't i just think it was blown completely of proportion. completely out of proportion. >> got to say, steve, while >> i've got to say, steve, while i've got you and begins with me, i've got you and begins with me, i saw a story in the paper today while staying the of while staying on the issue of weight loss. nike have developed a range of clothing with added width for larger children. does this not suggest we've got a problem here? steve >> well, we know we've yeah, of course we know we've got a are we using euphemisms again aren't we. >> you know added width. what it means is kids are getting fatter . more and more parents have got fat kids. the message here fat kids. and the message here is parents have got to start taking more responsibility. we've got great parents who do great work with their kids, but we've got some pretty awful role models as parents who frankly prefer to stuff a burger in their mouth along with some chips doing it the same with their child. that's dangerously overweight. you know, let's not be unkind to the children . be unkind to the children. they've got to have clothes to

run about in and to wear, you know, let's do that. but the message here is, if your child is too fat, sort it as a parent begins. >> before we wrap things up, apologies to both of you slightly shorter item because of that breaking news from karen armstrong. can i ask you, chris, do you think there's a danger that cliff richard is going to be for these comments? be cancelled for these comments? >> way. i hope not. >> no way. no. i hope not. i mean, if he is, it's a disgrace. no, no, he's a huge fan base. people liked i went to see his concert recently and the theatre was 3000 people full and they love him. no, this is not going to harm him. harm him at all? >> no, cliff richard, not only a p0p >> no, cliff richard, not only a pop icon, but somebody that's looked after himself for many years. steve, he should be a role model rather than being condemned . and well, he's always condemned. and well, he's always looked pretty good, hasn't he? >> and i know he's had his, you know, he's had his battles with

whatsapp and to him in the past and different things reported and different things reported and all that sort of thing. and he's managed to pull through all that. but yeah, i mean, for a man of 81, whatever he is, man of 80, 81, whatever he is, he's doing well, isn't he's doing pretty well, isn't he? and he's keeping himself very he's keeping himself very slim fit . so yeah, i very he's keeping himself very slim fit. so yeah, i think slim and fit. so yeah, i think yeah , good on him. and you know, yeah, good on him. and you know, all of this extra stuff about, you know , upsetting alison you know, upsetting alison hammond, were saying on hammond, people were saying on twitter, i'm sure that twitter, listen, i'm sure that alison hammond has got a thick skin. >> well, that's the problem begins. do we need to have a conversation about the country's waistline ? waistline? >> no, no, not at all. and i agree with steve. what's going on in this world is far more important than what cliff richard said about his idol being too fat to have a photograph with. it's rubbish . photograph with. it's rubbish. why people are talking like that. i don't know. just look around you . everything is around you. everything is appalling . it's disgraceful appalling. it's disgraceful what's going on in this world. >> most definitely. well, listen , i enjoyed the debate. i'm a huge fan of cliff richard, by

the fan of dermot the way. big fan of dermot o'leary alison hammond as o'leary and alison hammond as well. talented woman. well. hugely talented woman. alison hammond, beautiful lady. and you know what? this morning has back on its feet and has got back on its feet and look, we're about it look, we're talking about it which these tv shows are which is what these tv shows are all about, including mine, steve miller, gnosis. that's where miller, fat gnosis. that's where people can go to lose weight. is that right? people can go to lose weight. is tha oh, ht? people can go to lose weight. is tha oh, they can. they can look >> oh, they can. they can look me up. i'm spread everywhere like jam on the toast. >> well, i'd up every last crumb. >> thank you, steve miller. thank you. to the brilliant christopher biggins, who's back with . but coming up with us shortly. but coming up with us shortly. but coming up with tonight's top pundits, has poor old huw edwards been hung out to dry ? is it time for him out to dry? is it time for him to be back on the telly? we'll debate that in two minutes

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i've got to say, the reaction to the big opinion has pretty much broken my laptop. i've had so many emails about whether cyclists should have a number plate like cars and motorcycles .

plate like cars and motorcycles. linda says, hi, mark. in my experience , yes, since the new experience, yes, since the new highway code changes, the cyclists seem to think they are untouchable . driving behind them untouchable. driving behind them is frustra dating, to say the least . this is frustra dating, to say the least. this from tam, who is frustra dating, to say the least . this from tam, who says least. this from tam, who says hi. mark bicycles should by law have a bell fitted can warn pedestrian those who might not hearit pedestrian those who might not hear it and get injured on andrews says hi mark. i had a very near miss with a woman on a bike with a child on the back. it was dark and she had no lights. that's how i missed her. i will never know. let's get some identification for the cyclists. look i could just spend the rest of the evening reading your cycling emails, but do them coming cliff do keep them coming on. cliff richard was he right to fat shame elvis how dare cliff the cheap version of elvis. make those comments , says jacqui at those comments, says jacqui at and on nike . those comments, says jacqui at and on nike. nike have those comments, says jacqui at and on nike . nike have now got and on nike. nike have now got a range of sportswear that's wider for kids, such as the obesity crisis. i think letting your

children get fat, says says terry, is a form of child abuse. it's out of control in the uk . it's out of control in the uk. lots more of that to come. but it's being reported that one of the bbc's biggest stars , huw the bbc's biggest stars, huw edwards, is set to step down from the organisation after an internal inquiry. it comes after the bbc suspended huw edwards in july following claims he paid thousands of pounds for sexually explicit images . however, whilst explicit images. however, whilst not all of the allegations have been denied, including alleged inappropriate behaviour with bbc staff, police have found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the presenter. so has huw edwards been hung out to dry ? is edwards been hung out to dry? is it time he was back on telly? his only crime being a complicated love life or are his actions beyond the pale for a man who is the face of bbc news? we'll get my pundits in on that very shortly. but first, let's speak to former bbc producer john mair, who helped to create

question time 40 years ago. he has since edited 55 books, five on the bbc. he's now working on a book. how do we pay for the beebin a book. how do we pay for the beeb in the future, which is out in february? john congratulates us on the book. i look forward to interviewing you about that in the new year. what do you think? >> do you like to write for it? >> do you like to write for it? >> what was that? would you like to write for me? >> would you like to write for the book? you have opinions on the book? you have opinions on the i the book? you have opinions on thei would absolutely love to >> i would absolutely love to contribute to that book. most definitely. so get touch definitely. john so get in touch with after the show. with the team after the show. tell do you that huw tell me, do you think that huw edwards back on the edwards should be back on the box? >> mark first of all, as they say on american tv? thank you for me this this is a no for having me this this is a no brainer. this is a complete no brainer. this is a complete no brainer. is damaged brainer. huw edwards is damaged property. is going to put property. who is going to put him of a screen on a him in front of a screen on a respectable program ? his respectable program? his reputation is absolutely shot. poor man. poor, poor man. but he has no reputation now, so he has to go off and do something else.

you know, that's the price of fame. if you've got a face and a name, as you may find out, you have to be very, very careful what you do because if you if you step out of line in the modern world with mobile phones and everything else, someone's going to see you doing it. i was saying earlier on that, you know, thank god. you remember know, thank god. do you remember frank boff how had frank boff or frank boff how had like him for young and like him for young girls and cocaine lasted about a day cocaine he lasted about a day after the of the world after the news of the world exposed and i recall i mean exposed him. and i recall i mean , i to work on nationwide , i used to work on nationwide and hugh scully in in and i was once hugh scully in in in savoy. and he was very drunk . in savoy. and he was very drunk. and i said, hugh, don't do this . and i said, hugh, don't do this. you've got to face somebody. somebody will notice you. you know, hugh is damaged property. but i do believe is if the but what i do believe is if the bbc wipes his voice off of archive, they're bonkers. you know, he's done his work. he's done his work professionally. leave his legacy i >> interesting stuff. i mean , he >> interesting stuff. i mean, he hasn't broken any laws, has he ? hasn't broken any laws, has he? he just has a racy private life . he just has a racy private life. >> he's brought the corporation

into a little bit of disrepute . into a little bit of disrepute. and, you know, his wife admitted that as much, you know , people that as much, you know, people cannot will not take him seriously. you know, you can't you can't put huw edwards on a royal occasion. now can you? what this story is all about, him negotiating his pay off as you realise. so his lawyers are feeding stories and he's not he's not broken the law that he's not broken the law that he's very his friends, in inverted commas, angry inverted commas, see how angry he he can be angry as he he is. he can be angry as he like, but he cannot appear in a news studio again. i mean, gb news, as you well know, yanks people off when they start to bnng people off when they start to bring bring the station into disrepute. why shouldn't the bbc? >> yes, i've got no doubt. you know, i could get yanked off at some point if i said the wrong thing, because that's the responsible duty being on the responsible duty of being on the national . john, jon, do national airwaves. john, jon, do you stay us. let me bring national airwaves. john, jon, do yo myay us. let me bring national airwaves. john, jon, do yo my top us. let me bring national airwaves. john, jon, do yo my top pundits.et me bring national airwaves. john, jon, do yo my top pundits as me bring national airwaves. john, jon, do yo my top pundits as well. 'ing in my top pundits as well. political commentator chloe dobbs broadcaster aidan dobbs sports broadcaster aidan magee and showbiz legend christopher biggins . aiden, what christopher biggins. aiden, what exactly has huw edwards done wrong? the allegations are that he quite enjoys the sight of a

cock and balls. it's not against the law, is it? we've all done it. >> it's not against the law, but we're making an assumption here that bringing the organisation into disrepute involves breaking the law. i would say that it's not quite as clear cut as that is his behaviour befitting of somebody i expect to be the flagship newscast of our national broadcaster. i would say definitely not. i think as your guest john says, i do think he's damaged goods and i do think it would be very difficult for now read the news, for him now to read the news, even with any credibility. dodi and like he's and also, it's not like he's irreplaceable. mean, yes, he's irreplaceable. i mean, yes, he's regarded journalist, regarded as a journalist, but i've him read i've only ever seen him read just the news off of just read the news off of a teleprompter or an autocue . i teleprompter or an autocue. i think he's i think he's quite i think he's i think he's quite i think he's i think he's quite i think he's sorry. sorry go on. >> i'm going to say john, he's done lots of royal stuff. >> no, no, that's not he's not just a gob on sticks. he's a lot more than that. no he's he's done other things. but. but you're right. all about you're right. it's all about trust. have to watch, trust. do people have to watch, watch the telly and think, i trust what the man is saying? and trust him. now,

and they won't trust him. now, i just wonder whether apology just wonder whether an apology would enough. would be enough. >> dobbs. would be enough. >> don't)obbs. would be enough. >> don't think it will be >> i don't think it will be enough. i think when you generally when you generally speaking, when you apologise, comes you apologise, the mob comes for you even more. this is even more. so this is a difficult one, i have to say. i'm a bit conflicted about this because i do believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty and the police have not said that. they haven't found any evidence of him committing a crime. i would like to see what you know, if we find out what was in that report. so when they say that he sent messages to people who worked at the bbc that made them feel uncomfortable, what is that? i mean, a message that makes you feel in today's feel uncomfortable in today's day be just day and age could be just misgendering someone. but i mean, we know that the bbc has a culture of covering things up . culture of covering things up. we saw it with jimmy savile and others. so, you know, i'm tempted to think it may be another case of that and he may be guilty . but i mean, as we be guilty. but i mean, as we pointed out, he's had he's had a long career. it's you know, it's not like he's really getting the

short end of the stick being, you know, ending his time at the bbc. now, he has had a long time there. he's had a good career. he should be grateful for that . he should be grateful for that. >> but also, mark, you can get you can get any of us can get sacked the wrong sacked for saying the wrong thing. it doesn't mean we're breaking the law, but if it spells the for our career spells the end for our career and makes our careers and it makes our careers difficult, don't why difficult, then i don't see why huw edwards be held to huw edwards shouldn't be held to the standard. yeah. the same standard. yeah. >> mean, obviously the >> yeah. i mean, obviously the short end of the stick is what got in the got him into trouble in the first but john, there first place. but john, is there a for edwards a potential for huw edwards outside of the bbc? >> look, the commercial world is there, mark. you know , it can go there, mark. you know, it can go open fetes chair conferences, 10,000 a day. i mean , one thing 10,000 a day. i mean, one thing gb news could do to push the bbc to reveal that report into his behaviour because public body , behaviour because public body, they've done a report and i think that report should be public. you know, i'm sure it's legally safe because it's been crawled over by lawyers. so you know, say to the bbc, all right, let's see it. you know, we know

the is going. and also, by the man is going. and also, by the man is going. and also, by the way, let's see how much he gets paid off for because he's on 435,000 year. know, on 435,000 a year. you know, which people gb news a lot on which is people gb news a lot on that. i don't think not not even jacob rees—mogg , i'm not sure jacob rees—mogg, i'm not sure what jacob's on, but he's worth every penny. >> briefly, john, before i get to biggins for the last word, how much could it cost the bbc to axe humphrey, axe huw to axe humphrey, to axe huw edwards could it be in excess of £1 million? >> a i have no idea. i'm not a lawyer nor an accountant , but i lawyer nor an accountant, but i would have thought he's had six months of pay already for doing nothing. so i would have thought probably very little because actually he's not leaving actually he's he's not leaving in glory, is he not? he's not leaving. covered in roses, covered in flowers . so they covered in flowers. so they probably say, all right, we'll pay you probably say, all right, we'll pay you to the end of the year and then goodbye. and the and then goodbye. and by the way, employ you know, way, we'll employ you, you know, occasionally, in the occasionally, sometime in the future. has to go off and future. but he has to go off and make living somewhere else. future. but he has to go off and ma nowliving somewhere else. future. but he has to go off and ma now beginsomewhere else. future. but he has to go off and ma now begins briefly,ere else. future. but he has to go off and ma now begins briefly, a else. future. but he has to go off and ma now begins briefly, a couple >> now begins briefly, a couple of seconds. what's next for huw edwards only fans or worst case

scenario ? scenario? >> gb news well, i think probably even worse than that is i'm a celebrity. get me out of here next year. so i think the thing is, i'd like to agree with chloe for a bit, is the fact that he's had the most fantastic career. let him finish on that. let him retire. i don't know what he is. 62. 62? well, what age he is. 62. 62? well, it's very age to retire. it's a very good age to retire. he must have some money set aside. he can do the jungle. he won't it, sure. but you won't do it, i'm sure. but you know, think he will. you know, i think he will. do you think will? think he will? >> i think a great idea. >> i think it's a great idea. you've just come up with. i think you've you've put some ideasin think you've you've put some ideas in some producers heads. >> will but >> they probably will ask. but farage million. farage got 1.5 million. >> he? >> why shouldn't he? >> why shouldn't he? >> exactly. >> exactly. >> fair enough. look the clock's against us, we always love against us, john. we always love having let me having you on the show. let me know the details of your know about the details of your book and we'll catch up soon. my thanks former bbc thanks to former top bbc producer up, producerjohn mayer. next up, really to my really looking forward to my mark guest. it's bit mark meets guest. it's a bit special . it's political as special. it's a bit political as well. find out after this. oh well. so find out after this. oh can i do the poll as well, greg? yeah, let's do the poll in an exclusive mark dolan tonight,

people's poll. we've been asking was cliff richard right to fat shame presley ? the results shame elvis presley? the results are in. i'll reveal all

next really excited about my take at ten. in just ten minutes time, i'll be dealing with the bbc in five years time. £200 a year for the licence fee. my response. but we've been asking was cliff richard right to fat shame elvis presley in a mark dolan tonight people's poll. the results are in and 62.2% back. sir cliff and say no he was not right sorry they've rejected him they say it wasn't right. 37.8% say yes, he wasn't right. 37.8% say yes, he was right to comment on elvis bulging waistline . it's time now bulging waistline. it's time now for mark meets, in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of showbiz, politics and beyond. tonight, britain's leading expert on political

cartoons, tim benson , who's cartoons, tim benson, who's what's known as a cartoon ethnologist. and he joins me now . tim, what a treat to have you on the show. you are a historian of political cartoons. what is the purpose of a political cartoon . in generally, i imagine cartoon. in generally, i imagine it's to inform , educate and it's to inform, educate and amuse the reader. well, that's what we try to do on mark dolan tonight. i guess the attraction of political cartoons, tim, is the way that so much can be said without the need for words . without the need for words. >> absolutely . we like the old >> absolutely. we like the old adage where, you know, a picture paints a thousand words and the wonderful thing about cartoons , wonderful thing about cartoons, unlike the accompanying text in a newspaper, is the immediacy of the cartoon . but you look at it the cartoon. but you look at it and within a fraction of a second, you've got it . rather second, you've got it. rather than reading a column or an

editorial, which obviously takes a bit of time. yes >> so, i mean, do some of these cartoonists ever go too far? i believe, josh, you might have some images of steve bell at the guardian. so let's have a look at that. now, this is steve bell, who no longer works for the characterisation of the guardian characterisation of priti patel. then home secretary, as some kind of bovine animal. i don't know if it's a bull, but it's unflattering, isn't it? >> it is. and cartoons can be cruel. they can be unfair . yeah, cruel. they can be unfair. yeah, but i think the problem is with the visual image, it can easily be misinterpreted . be misinterpreted. >> and i think the problem with the one you just showed before priti patel, it was when she was accused of bullying . accused of bullying. >> so he's portrayed her as a bull, right . >> so he's portrayed her as a bull, right. it has >> so he's portrayed her as a bull, right . it has absolutely bull, right. it has absolutely nothing to do with with her being a hindu or anything else . being a hindu or anything else. >> indeed. and then, of course, there was controversy around

that particular cartoon that steve bell did about the gaza hamas israel conflict . right. hamas israel conflict. right. which got him the sack from the guardian . was that unfair? i i'm guardian. was that unfair? i i'm a free speech advocate. i'm not sure he should have been fired. what do you think? >> absolutely . well, you you >> absolutely. well, you you know, it's the content that's important here. and in fact, it wasn't the cartoon that got him fired. was the fact that he fired. it was the fact that he he retweeted did it when they had already said they wouldn't pubush had already said they wouldn't publish it. and he's got he's got form on this . yes. now, the got form on this. yes. now, the thing is , he's using a visual thing is, he's using a visual metaphor . thing is, he's using a visual metaphor. he's also thing is, he's using a visual metaphor . he's also borrowing thing is, he's using a visual metaphor. he's also borrowing as cartoonists in this country often do, from a cartoon , a very often do, from a cartoon, a very famous cartoon from the past and reusing it, giving it a contemporary twist. and it's based on an american cartoon by david levine, a president johnson having just had surgery on his stomach, cut out south

and north vietnam . um, from from and north vietnam. um, from from from his body. now, the problem here is that it's not anti—semitic, but somebody at the guardian said it was and they made some reference . to they made some reference. to netanyahu wanting his pound of flesh. yeah used the shylock. so but it had absolutely nothing to do with that . and it's basically do with that. and it's basically a visual metaphor for netanyahu saying he was going to carry out surgical strikes on gaza, which steve has said, you know, that that's basically not possible. and that's why netanyahu is wearing boxing gloves. >> i think it's best, isn't it, if you just don't censor people as long as they haven't broken the law . your producer, lottie, the law. your producer, lottie, created a nice package of bob moran work. he was a great critic of lockdowns and vaccine mandates . critic of lockdowns and vaccine mandates. how critic of lockdowns and vaccine mandates . how influential are mandates. how influential are political cartoons? do they ever

influence public opinion or even the outcome of elections? tim no, they don't. >> they just generally they they they confirm our own beliefs and prejudices , right? they don't prejudices, right? they don't really change them. now you're showing bob moran's cartoons. um, it's a bit of a shame with him because he had quite a promising career on the telegraph. but during the lockdown, he literally went mad and was saying the most ridiculous things and ended up getting fired from the telegraph for calling for the verbal and physical abuse of a palliative care doctor , which was absurd. care doctor, which was absurd. and he was calling politicians evil , which and he was calling politicians evil, which is ridiculous. you can accuse them of being incompetent . well, look, evil, incompetent. well, look, evil, useless . useless. >> obviously. it's all about opinions . and, you know, bob's opinions. and, you know, bob's a very principled guy and he took a strong view during the pandemic . like we said, he's pandemic. like we said, he's a principled each to their own complete lunatic . okay, well,

complete lunatic. okay, well, look, it's a job on the telegraph because falling for the verbal and physical abuse of a palliative care doctor. well, clearly, that's a that's not something i would support. he said, tim, on that on that we can agree he he may have gone gone too far, but he certainly had his voice heard through his paintbrush . tim, before you go , paintbrush. tim, before you go, really quickly, just a few seconds, if you can, said britain would be would have been better off under the germans. >> he compared britain . yeah. >> he compared britain. yeah. dufing >> he compared britain. yeah. during covid to nazi germany had germany defeated us, the guy's a complete lunatic . and that's why complete lunatic. and that's why listen , tim. listen, tim. >> tim, i. »- >> tim, i. >> for the british press. okay >> for the british press. okay >> okay, tim. no problem. listen, i understand you're not a fan. no problem at all. tim, let's speak again. the clock's against us. you've got a fabulous website. okay? and the website is original political

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headlines and our on armstrong. thank you, mark. >> very good evening to you. aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the breaking news, 13 israeli hostages and a number of foreign nationals who've been held by hamas in gaza have now been handed over to the red cross. these pictures show several red cross vehicles at the border crossing the rafah border crossing carrying hostages out of gaza and into egypt. the prime minister's office says the israeli hostages are six women and seven children. now there are some discrepant c over the number of foreign nationals released who are believed to be tie. hamas initially said seven. that number has been revised to 439 palestinians will be released from an israeli prison as part of the exchange. a source close to the discussion says it's 33 women and 33 children and six women. a delay to the process earlier in the day was resolved thanks to mediation from egypt and qatar. this is day two of a four day

pause in fighting. this is day two of a four day pause in fighting . meanwhile, pause in fighting. meanwhile, a four year old girl released yesterday after being held captive by hamas told her father she dreamed of coming home. raz asher, her two year old sister, aviv , and her mother, doron, aviv, and her mother, doron, were released and reunited with yoni asher in the first stage of the israeli hamas deal on friday. 24 hostages were freed in total. that's 13 israelis and 11 thai nationals. a number were taken to the schneider children's hospital, where doctors say they've received ended well to treatment . the met ended well to treatment. the met police has arrested 18 people dunng police has arrested 18 people during pro—palestinian protests in london for were arrested on suspicion of distributing material likely to stir up racial hatred. further, two on suspicion of supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation . the arrest took organisation. the arrest took place as tens of thousands of people marched through the streets of central london, calling for a ceasefire in gaza and the former police officer

convicted of murdering george floyd has been stabbed at a prison in arizona. according to reports in the united states, it's understood derek chauvin survived the attack by another inmate on friday, but has been seriously injured. it comes days after the supreme court rejected his appeal . the 47 year old his appeal. the 47 year old argued he had not received a fair trial. he's serving multiple sentences for george floyd's death in 2020, which led to widespread protests against police brutality and racism . police brutality and racism. well, that's all we have time for the moment. more a little later. for now, it's over to . later. for now, it's over to. mark my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hours armstrong, who returns in an hour's time. >> welcome to mark dolan. tonight, your perfect choice for a saturday night in harry and meghan's favourite journalist has written a tell all book which threatens more chaos and bad headlines for the royal family. we'll get the inside story from the queen of us.

royal reporting kinsey schofield . plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. this evening, we have live political commentator chloe dobbs, broadcaster and sports journalist, the one and only aidan magee and actor and comedy legend christopher biggins . legend christopher biggins. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day , a packed page zeroes of the day, a packed hour to come. and those paper eyes are on the way. but first, my take . at ten. this will have my take. at ten. this will have you spitting out your tea on a saturday night. the office for budget response ability boffins in thick glasses who crunched the numbers. in other words are predicting the bbc licence fee will rise to just shy of £200 within the next five years. who's got that kind of money? but if you own a telly, you

literally won't be able to plug it in unless you cough up the cash. it in unless you cough up the cash . old grannies struggling to cash. old grannies struggling to put food on the table and heat their homes are reliant on tv for company and will be threatened with jail. just to keep gary lineker in gold cufflinks. whether or not you think an obligatory tax for the privilege of watching your telly is acceptable, the licence fee itself looks likely to self—implode anyway. why high technology in its latest annual report, the beeb revealed that the number of people paying the licence fee has dropped by half a million in the last year. because if they're watching on an ipad, a computer or their phone or even via a smart box connected to their tv, as long as they don't fire up the iplayer app , they don't have to iplayer app, they don't have to pay a iplayer app, they don't have to pay a penny . if you take that pay a penny. if you take that figure of half a million lost viewers in just a year and project that over a decade, that's 5 million people will not

invested in the national state broadcaster. at which point can it even call itself the british broadcasting corporation on the bbc fast becoming a service only a portion of the population is paying a portion of the population is paying for watching or listening to. and why would that be? well apart from irritation at being shaken down for just apart from irritation at being shaken down forjust a bit, under £160 to pay their biggest stars and senior management millions. so much of the output is finger wagging. politically correct drivel woke storyline about gender ideology in casualty pro—vaccine propaganda in eastenders right on comedy that no one watches any more on live at the apollo and shows like doctor who which are so full of progressive pc nonsense they've been rendered unwatched able. even the daleks aren't as terrifying as some of their storylines . the news operation storylines. the news operation isn't much better with the beeb

having taken weeks to decide that a group that beheads babies rapes women and burns people alive are terrorists. when asked whether hamas were responsible for an arsenal of weapons strategically stored in a gaza hospital, their foreign affairs reporter jeremy bowen, who appears to have completely lost the plot, spent dated. this may not be hamas and that lots of hospitals are equipped with weapons. interesting i'll have a look out for some kalashnikovs next time i go to a&e with a swollen finger . this is an swollen finger. this is an organisation that offered one note pandemic coverage, not offering even the slightest debate about whether lockdowns might be a terrible mistake or whether jabbing absolutely whetherjabbing absolutely everyone was necessary . there's everyone was necessary. there's also a strong perception that the organisation was anti—brexit holding its nose occasionally to let nigel farage go on question time for, you know , balance the time for, you know, balance the bbc complained that their revenue in the last year, thanks to the thousands of people who'd

rather watch netflix or disney plus on their laptop meant their licence fee income fell from 3.8 billion to wait for it. 3.74 billion, £3.74 billion. and they plead poverty whilst paying one star on their exclusive digital radio station. six music half £1 million a year to play records and say, here's ed sheeran , the and say, here's ed sheeran, the talent aren't just wildly overpaid , they're out of control overpaid, they're out of control too. look at gary lineker going on twitter and linking the rwanda policy to nazi germany . rwanda policy to nazi germany. still in a job. obviously in the end, the bbc belongs to all of us. but sadly these days it just doesn't feel that way . it feels doesn't feel that way. it feels like it belongs to the north london chattering classes as signed up to woke progressive politics smug , censorious and politics smug, censorious and arrogant . this approach suffuses arrogant. this approach suffuses so much of their output,

including the radio four today programme, which has lost 2 million listeners in the last three years. ultimately the bbc licence fee is no longer fit for this world. even their legendary former presenter john humphrys has said it's got to go until our national broadcaster creates radio online and television output for the whole country and does so on a far more sensible budget with a fairer way of paying budget with a fairer way of paying for it. it's on borrowed time, populated by pointless celebrities and not enough masterminds. the bbc is fast becoming britain's weakest link . becoming britain's weakest link. i thought i'd spare you the anne robinson wink, but there you go . robinson wink, but there you go. your reaction? mark gbnews.com. listen, the bbc have got millions of viewers and listeners every week. many happy customers who love our state broadcaster. so customers who love our state broadcaster . so let customers who love our state broadcaster. so let me customers who love our state broadcaster . so let me know customers who love our state broadcaster. so let me know your

views. good, bad and indifferent. let's hear the views now of my top pundits. political commentator chloe dobbs , top broadcaster and dobbs, top broadcaster and journalist aidan magee and actor and broadcaster showbiz royalty, christopher biggins and biggins, you've worked for the beeb on many an occasion. what do you think about £200 a year? is that value for money? >> no, i don't think it is. you see, i think what should happen is i, my particular preference is i, my particular preference is sky plus . i mean, i pay a lot is sky plus. i mean, i pay a lot of money for that and i'm, you know, i'm happy to pay for the bbc, but if it keeps going up, i'm not what i think i would pay for is if the radio had a fee for is if the radio had a fee for you to listen to the radio, i would probably pay that because i love the radio. i think it's a wonderful thing in the car and i love listening to certain programmes at home, but i think pay so much now for i think we pay so much now for television all these different channels have to be paid for all these different companies , and i these different companies, and i think should be able to think we should be able to choose which ones we want to

listen to. >> listen aiden and i know that bbc four is your professional plan b, but what's your what's your reaction to this? this is the office for budget responsibility who are suggesting that within five years it could be as almost £200 annually. can people afford that , afford that ? , afford that? >> well, they can afford it. i'm not actually sure about the question of affordability, but i've got some skin in this race because i give away a tv licence with every house that i rent out. i pay this thing out. so i pay this thing multiple times over and over again on course of a month. again on the course of a month. so it does irritate me a little bit more than the average person. suggest. person. i would suggest. i remember the 90s there remember back in the 90s there were adverts that the bbc were these adverts that the bbc used about used to propagate about themselves and said the bbc themselves and it said the bbc and some of us might remember this. the bbc has this. it said the bbc has something everybody. and something for everybody. and you know back then know what? back then. back then i say that was quite i would say that was quite accurate. there was accurate. it did. there was plenty. i mean, i to plenty. i mean, i used to stay in on friday night and watch in on a friday night and watch about different comedies about four different comedies all because i loved all in a row because i loved them. used to watch the soaps, them. i used to watch the soaps,

i to watch the films. i i used to watch the films. i used to watch christmas used to watch the christmas stuff. it was really, really good. so but as time has good. and so but as time has gone h good. and so but as time has gone it was political gone on and it was political back don't get me wrong, back then, don't get me wrong, i mean, back in the 90s it was in bed with new labour and in fact it never fell of it never really fell out of bed with new did it really? with new labour, did it really? but then as, as the time went on it became, i wouldn't say less relevant, but i think relevant, but i do think the time where it has to time has come where it has to sustain itself within a marketplace case. i actually think people, think enough people, although i'm the bbc now i'm turned off by the bbc now and i haven't watched it for quite do watch bits quite a while, do watch bits and pieces there, but pieces here and there, but usually catch up. but usually on on, on catch up. but i it would survive a i think it would survive in a marketplace. think there marketplace. i do think there are enough people who like it to make own two make it stand on its own two feet. pays your money, you feet. you pays your money, you takes the choice. time to takes the choice. it's time to put there along with put it out there along with everything and people everything else. and people can can ascribe their budget to whichever watch. whichever they want to watch. i think bbc would do okay, think the bbc would do okay, even it's not to my taste. even if it's not to my taste. >> chloe, you are a young person. i explained to my person. when i explained to my eldest licence fee, he eldest son the licence fee, he laughed i was making eldest son the licence fee, he la up.ed i was making it up. >> yeah, sounds about right. this really shouldn't be a debate whether the rate debate of whether it's the rate should £159 £200.

should rise from £159 to £200. of course, it's going be of course, if it's going to be funded licence that's funded by a licence fee, that's going go up in line going to have to go up in line with inflation. debate with inflation. the debate really licence fee really is should the licence fee exist at all and definitively no, should not. the licence no, it should not. the licence fee outdated. fee is completely outdated. it is only fit for purpose for the world that we used to live in. where you had a tv that had what, 5 channels most if what, 4 or 5 channels most if not all of which were bbc and as aiden has pointed out, they have produced fantastic content produced some fantastic content that before we had that you would before we had social and netflix and social media and netflix and whatnot . everyone would in whatnot. everyone would sit in front telly in the front of the telly in the evening bbc shows . you evening and watch bbc shows. you did for money, but in did get value for money, but in an age where i mean i rarely consume anything made the consume anything made by the bbc. then netflix, bbc. and then i pay for netflix, i bbc. and then i pay for netflix, l pay bbc. and then i pay for netflix, i pay for other subscriptions. why why is why on earth is it justified for the bbc to be funded by a licence fee and not have to do anything to be funded whilst all the other channels like this one have to fight for their lives? for advertising to just survive. it's just not justified at all. >> okay, there is a flip side, a counter point to make, which is

that the worst case scenario is we lose the bbc and it's only the american giants like disney plus and netflix and amazon prime who make the content that we're watching. and i think that would be a disaster. we've reached out to the bbc. they've said the governments and the beeb agreed a six year licence fee settlement in january 2022, which froze the licence fee for two years with increases in line with inflation from 2024. as is usual practice , the government usual practice, the government sets and confirms the cost of a licence each year we await confirmation of this for 2024. and finally , the bbc have said and finally, the bbc have said we will continue to focus on what we do best working to deliver world class content and providing great value for all of our audiences. well, it's all about opinions. the bbc on trial . do you think it's worth upwards of £200 a year? let me know your thoughts . market know your thoughts. market gb news.com know your thoughts. market gbnews.com but next up, harry and meghan's favourite journalist has written a tell all book which threatens more chaos and bad headlines for king

charles and the royal family. we'll get the inside story from the queen of us royal reporting kinsey schofield . plus, kinsey schofield. plus, tomorrow's front pages . see you dry or chesty cough? wondering what type of cough you have? try bronchostop. bronchostop is used to relieve dry and chesty coughs.

they are ethnic enclaves. >> earlier on gb news radio . >> earlier on gb news radio. >> earlier on gb news radio. >> greg, have i got time for emails ? go on then there's emails? go on then there's a couple of corkers, the bbc, the licence fee within five years could be almost £200, according to the office for budget responsibility. judith says. hi mark. the bbc should be a subscription channel. it's ridiculous to force people to pay ridiculous to force people to pay for something they don't watch . daphne hello daphne . how watch. daphne hello daphne. how are you? what a lovely name that is. daphne. daphne says license payments are not worth it. the beeb's anti everything worth watching, including the totally untrustworthy news. this is from daphne, a pensioner who can't afford it. anyhow brilliant stuff. look, i'll keep your opinions on the national airwaves very shortly, but it's

time now for us news with the queen of american showbiz royal and political reporting kinsey schofield . and kinsey, let's schofield. and kinsey, let's talk about it. let's talk about this rather dramatic new book coming out . it's called endgame coming out. it's called endgame by omid scobie, who is a friend of the sussexes and i think it's quite unkind about prince william . william. >> yeah, that's well , i william. >> yeah, that's well, i mean, is it one of my favourite taylor swift lyrics is play stupid games. you win stupid prizes. he's claiming that prince william has pushed him out of the royal rota and would not allow him to follow all the wales's around after. well, they weren't. the wales's at the time, but prince william and princess kate wouldn't allow them to follow him around after them to follow him around after the release of his book finding freedom because he felt like he was prince harry's lapdog and, you know, i i'd argue perhaps he was. mark, i'm not sure that

there's maybe three people in there's maybe three people in the world would would disagree with that. amid harry and meghan. but he claims that prince william pushed him out and wouldn't allow him to cover them as closely as he used to after it was revealed that he did have a closer relationship to prince harry and meghan markle than they had alluded to at the during the release of finding freedom . you know, they finding freedom. you know, they initially lied about harry and meghan's participation in that book. indeed we should point out that the couple do deny any close links with or influence on the work of omid scobie, but you're entitled to your view. >> kinsey , particularly as one >> kinsey, particularly as one of the world's leading royal commentators . what do we think commentators. what do we think about remember, it's not just me. >> remember when meghan went after the daily mail? it was jason knauf. it was emails with jason knauf. it was emails with jason knauf. it was emails with jason knauf that came out in that that the discovery where they found emails from jason knauf and meghan and harry,

where they they did say, we want you to give omid scobie this information for this book. we want to have an influence on finding freedom. so it's not not just my opinion. mark okay. no most definitely. >> listen , kinsey, how damaging >> listen, kinsey, how damaging could this book be? because, i mean, they mentioned the race row again, the colour of the child. i don't think we need to go over old ground. is there anything else else in there that looks like a problem for king charles? >> i mean, the sun is reporting that a second member of the extended royal household, you know, not a member of the royal family, but a second member of the royal household made disparaging comments about archie's skin tone and this is allegedly revealed within a letter that meghan markle sent to king charles. neither individual is named in the book because scobie claims he's worried about litigation in the big scheme of things pr wise , i big scheme of things pr wise, i think people consider harry and meghan to be insecure and very

sensitive and they tend to exaggerate their claims, and i just don't think it would have the same effect today that that this these claims would have had a few years ago. i think that people are kind of over harry and meghan if i'm being honest over the complaining and this is going to be perhaps it's going to shake things up a little bit. but i don't think that this is quote unquote , the end game for quote unquote, the end game for the royal family as much as omid would like for us to think it is. yeah, i think a bit of self—aggrandisement at play there . and harry and meghan, there. and harry and meghan, subject to the law of diminishing returns, you're not subject to any diminishing returns. >> you've got a massive scoop. this week. tell me more . this week. tell me more. >> oh, my gosh, mark, this is wild . so every year for the last wild. so every year for the last three years, kitson has put together a holiday hypocrisy window display. so it's not like dior or chanel the beautiful. you know those beautiful visuals you have over there . but they you have over there. but they call out public figures for

hypocrisy every holiday season. and this year, harry and meghan are featured on it for their eco hypocrisy. mark kitson is the celebrity hotspot here in the states. it's the perfect gift boutique. you, you know , this is boutique. you, you know, this is where all the celebrities used to go to be papped when they were desperate for that kind of attention. paris hilton, kim kardashian walking out of the store with huge blue bags . so store with huge blue bags. so i know that it's going to drive the duchess crazy that hollywood a—listers are , you know, going a—listers are, you know, going to pass by her photo basically as they run in to grab stocking stuffers this holiday season. this is going to be i would say, very embarrassing for her. >> this is your exclusive footage. it's your story. it's got the country talking, hasn't it ? people of the year is the it? people of the year is the sort of window display display at this gift shop. next to a

sign for violent crime which actually looks jollier than harry and meghan. right >> well, what they're trying to point out is that governor gavin newsom , um, and, you know, some newsom, um, and, you know, some of his lax policies has really made california such a disgrace in in blatant comparison to ron desantis. florida you know, desantis. florida you know, desantis is much more aggressive. he's much harder on crime than the state of california. so you are seeing an increase in violent crime . you increase in violent crime. you are seeing an increase in crime in general here in california versus florida and kitson's calling it out. they also called gavin newsom and oprah out on the same window. gavin newsom for saying we made mistakes dunng for saying we made mistakes during the covid crisis. and i know , you know, because we know, you know, because we talked about this, we were masked up for years in trouble. if we took a walk around the block without our mask on and then calling out oprah winfrey , then calling out oprah winfrey, one of the richest women in the for world asking for those donations for hawaii. so kitson is pretty savage this holiday

season. mark i wish there was a branch here in the uk. >> let's talk about princess diana , who is the apple of your diana, who is the apple of your eye. i know that she's one of the reasons why you became such a fan of the royal family and some of her memorabilia up for sale, that right ? sale, is that right? >> isn't this so fun? right here in beverly hills? it's a pastel pink blouse that was worn by princess di in her 1981 engagement portrait by lord snowdon. it's going up for auction here at julien's auction house in beverly hills. it's expected to fetch $200,000. so i'm obviously not in the running for it. this beautiful photo that they have of her in the blouse , it was taken for a 1981 blouse, it was taken for a 1981 issue of vogue magazine by princess margaret ex—husband. i believe the feature was called upcoming beauty. they believe the feature was called upcoming beauty . they described upcoming beauty. they described the top as a poignant symbol of love, grace and a timeless moment in history, which i obviously agree with. and in regards to the significance of this piece, the auction house says it represents the elegance

of a woman who forever captured our hearts around the world and all i have to say to that is amen, kinsey, listen. >> always a treat. look forward to seeing you in a week's time. the queen of us showbiz royal and political reporting kinsey schofield. website schofield. check out her website and , which are both and podcast, which are both called to for . and podcast, which are both called to for. daly next up, called to die for. daly next up, we've newspaper front we've got the newspaper front pages. greg, shall i tell pages. and greg, shall i tell them what we're doing at 1040 or shall i keep it a surprise . shall i keep it a surprise. okay. what? we're going to do at 1040 is we will react to the latest episode of i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. just a couple of minutes left on that program. you don't need to turn over because all the boring stuff end. but at 1040, stuff at the end. but at 1040, we've got in the studio the king of jungle himself. of the jungle himself. christopher biggins so full reaction to the latest episode. nigel has done a special bushtucker trial . we'll let you bushtucker trial. we'll let you know how he got on. so it's an i'm a celebrity special from 1040 tonight with loads and loads on nigel farage, but the papers don't go

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radio . radio. >> it's exactly 1030. for time tomorrow's front pages . sunday tomorrow's front pages. sunday telegraph crackdown on charities that host extremists and gchq investigates cyber attack on royal family hospital . also, royal family hospital. also, relief for the reunited and agony for those forced to wait. a number of family members returned to israel . hostages returned to israel. hostages held in gaza by hamas. too many remain. sunday express now stop small boats or we're sunk. the tories face electoral catastrophe unless it can stop migrant boats by polling day. this according to its own mps sunday mirror dads relief as hostages freed my darling girl is broken, but in one piece, the

observer next hostage deal on course after hamas delay prompts crisis . and top migration crisis. and top migration adviser warns kerbs will hit social care. the government's top immigration adviser has attacked plans to prevent overseas care workers from bringing family members to britain, warning that to do so could be very dangerous for the social care sector . i was social care sector. i was offered a lot of money to defect , to reform, says tory deputy chairman. that is lee anderson gb news star. they thought they were about to be executed. and then freedom is the other headune then freedom is the other headline relating to israelis return returning home daily star sunday mum's bedroom ordeal haunted by cigar smoking ghost of jimmy savile. now there. now then, let's get reaction from my top pundits. i'm delighted to have with me tonight political commentator chloe dobbs, who became a big star during the pandemic, calling out the madness of lockdowns. although it's all about opinions, of

course, broadcaster and journalist, a good friend of mine, aidan magee and bona fide showbiz royalty, actor and comedian and broadcaster christopher biggins . folks, lots christopher biggins. folks, lots of stories to get through here. and what about this one in the sunday express ? chloe, stop the sunday express? chloe, stop the small boats or we're sunk. is this the policy and the issue which could just about save rishi sunak yes, but i don't think there's much hope of them actually stopping the boats before the next election . before the next election. >> we have had over recent weeks we have had more and more signs of people being really outraged by this , by this small boats by this, by this small boats crisis and the migration crisis in general . crisis and the migration crisis in general. so we had the ons figures come out 745,000 net migration happen. now that's not all small boats, but still people are very angry about this and we saw what happened in dublin. that was scary , right? dublin. that was scary, right? >> people are several young

people, including a five year old, stabbed and great uproar from a small number of people, which has then . condemned by leo which has then. condemned by leo varadkar, the taoiseach , as sort varadkar, the taoiseach, as sort of hardcore right wing, extreme lists. >> and what is it with just anytime somebody pipes up on the street in some way, we just brand them as far right thugs. i just don't understand it. we saw it on armistice day . how do you it on armistice day. how do you know exactly what the political opinions are of every single person you see? >> the head of the gardai said it parroted exactly the same narrative were narrative as almost if they were reading from the same page, wasn't reading from the same page, wasyeah, exactly. and it's like, >> yeah, exactly. and it's like, you are they on the side you know, are they on the side of the british or are they on the people across the side of people coming across illegally boats who go illegally on small boats who go round children as round stabbing children? as i know topic, know it's slightly off topic, but really , really but people are really, really angry what is basically angry about what is basically just, you know, the invasion of our southern border. this they have to get a grip on this. our southern border. this they have to get a grip on this . i have to get a grip on this. i don't think they will. and consequently , they will probably consequently, they will probably use the next election, sadly. but boats are just but the boat, the boats are just the of the iceberg. the tip of the iceberg. >> i mean, the context the >> i mean, in the context of the

numbers we saw this week, i mean, a tiny number of mean, it's a tiny number of people. yeah. so it's our southern border. people. yeah. so it's our southeit'sorder. people. yeah. so it's our southeit's about about 45,000 >> so it's about about 45,000 people on people expected to come in on small boats each year versus 745,000 net migration. the actual figure gross is about 1.2 million, which is bigger than the population size of any uk city, aside from london. that's bigger than the size of birmingham. so i don't know what we're supposed to do. you know, people for people call me racist for claiming that the migration numbers are too high and i don't think i'm racist to say that it's not possible to build a city the size of birmingham or greater every single year. i mean, that's just not possible. we can not cope these numbers. >> i've been saying for a long time now, mark, it was time now, mark, and it was confirmed it was no surprise to me suella braverman me when suella braverman released me when suella braverman rele resignation, me when suella braverman releresignation, her resignation her resignation, her resignation letter, basically pulled letter, and she basically pulled poured sunak by saying poured scorn on sunak by saying that no appetite to fix that there's no appetite to fix this they're happy with this problem. they're happy with with the numbers as they are, and been and governments have been successive been successive governments have been happy where happy with the numbers where they obviously, they are. well, obviously, they've gone up but the they've gone up a bit, but the trend started in the late 90s. certainly they've and up

certainly they've gone up and up and and they're and up since then and they're like that because the governments them, want governments want them, want them exactly are. exactly where they are. it's a political consensus. exactly where they are. it's a polwhy consensus. exactly where they are. it's a polwhy ?onsensus. >> why? >> why? >> why? >> why are they so comfortable with numbers? with these numbers? because, i mean, culturally it's a mean, even culturally it's a problem in terms of national identity , isn't it? identity, isn't it? >> well, it is. but i think i think from a from a conservative well, an old school conservative perspective a perspective, i think there's a lot of ftse 100 influence in there. of companies there. a lot of these companies populate firms with populate their firms with workers at that level. so they pay workers at that level. so they pay the minimum wage, sometimes even and that's a good way even less. and that's a good way of getting people to in work in central london work in in central london or to work in in big cities at a small that big cities at a small price that may small wage, rather, may be a small wage, rather, that maybe they wouldn't have done, or people who done, or people people who would have done that job maybe 20, 30 years are prepared years ago not are now prepared to and i think it's an to do it. and i think it's an ideological thing comes ideological thing when it comes to i think they're all to the left. i think they're all in on it. and for different for different reasons. it it results in and that's different reasons. it it results in numbers and that's different reasons. it it results in numbers going and that's different reasons. it it results in numbers going upi that's different reasons. it it results in numbers going up everys the numbers going up every single year. >> but begins observer >> but begins the observer report notes that the country's top advisor that top migration advisor says that we need these people, for example, to do social care. that's looking after pensioners

or people with dementia and all the rest of it. we need them. >> well, i think i agree with the articles. think the observer articles. i think we and they're very we do need them and they're very important particular important at this particular stage people's lives when stage of people's lives when they mentally and they do need help mentally and physically. you know, people need to be a bath shower for sure and need to have take their medication. they need to be looked after. and then, of course, as we're living longer and longer, you know , we and longer, you know, we increasingly need more of these people. although the point and the point being made, christopher, about the about the care sector is that if the government clamped down on relatives coming along on a visa for social care, they're going to clamp down on that. >> but this adviser says that that will reduce the number of people coming. but surely it's unreasonable expect to bring unreasonable to expect to bring family members . family members. >> unreasonable at all. i >> not unreasonable at all. i mean , surely that's very mean, surely that's very important. want you important. they don't want you don't want to come on your own. well aiden. well i don't know, aiden. >> think that this is what >> i think that this is what inflates the figures, isn't it? >> members again >> family members i've got again

, little bit of , i've got some a little bit of knowledge about this. it's a slightly different thing. but when applications loans when i get applications loans for my student properties, for example, stoke on example, in places like stoke on trent preston, elsewhere, i often individual applying often get an individual applying on student visa, but they're on a student visa, but they're bringing family now. i can't fit them because talking them in because i'm talking about bedroom here. about 3 or 4 bedroom units here. they want to rent the whole place a family. it's not place as a family. it's not really from business really viable from a business point me, but i'm point of view. for me, but i'm getting probably getting applications probably whenever comes available, whenever a room comes available, they house they think it's a house and so they think it's a house and so they say, okay, they contact me and say, okay, can a family in? that can you fit a family in? that happens all and it's happens all the time and it's not person doing it. not the same person doing it. it's different names and word spreads around. it's spreads around. it's not it's not okay, chloe, i'll get to more >> okay, chloe, i'll get to more of your thoughts shortly. >> me tell you, >> but next up, let me tell you, big reaction what's been big reaction to what's been happening the jungle. that's happening in the jungle. that's right. i'm a celebrity is now drawing to a close this evening . drawing to a close this evening. nigel has been doing a bushtucker trial. i'll let you know about his performance and how been coming across how he's been coming across tonight . full. how he's been coming across tonight. full. i'm a celebrity reaction .

next now on mark dolan. tonight, i will give you the nigel farage. i'm a celebrity guarantee, which is that whenever we're on air, when i'm a celebrity finishes, you'll get instant reaction and analysis. and tonight, we're going to do that because it's i'm a celeb day seven and they've just come off air and it was very exciting, actually. gb news star nigel farage teamed up with former world champion boxer tony bellew. here's a snippet of what happened . what happened. >> number nine, go on. watch in there. watch him go. nice nice. yes >> nigel. that's how you do it. >> nigel. that's how you do it. >> that's really nice . come on. >> that's really nice. come on. come on. >> what? are you ready? same again. please what a nice. >> go on, mate . you can do it, >> go on, mate. you can do it, mate . look at >> go on, mate. you can do it, mate. look at him. go. he's a machine . oh, nigel. well done .

machine. oh, nigel. well done. look at that . now . they were look at that. now. they were drinking disgusting slime full of snails and snakes and god knows what else. >> but nigel is such a pro, he made it look like a pint of old speckled hen. it looked like he was at his favourite local. well, nigel anthony drank all six drinks to win a full 12 stars for the camp. so who better to analyse nigel's performance tonight? and since he entered the jungle than the king of the jungle himself? two thousand and seven winner christopher biggins and king of the jungle. it's like president of the states. even when of the united states. even when you're out , of the united states. even when you're out, you still you're still aren't you? still the king, aren't you? still still the king, aren't you? stiland i won't in again >> and i won't go in again because i'd fearful of losing because i'd be fearful of losing the title correct? correct. the title, correct? correct. you wouldn't that. wouldn't want to do that. i mean, my day, it was mean, also in my day, it was much we did have much easier. but we did have those drinks and that terrible thing. i remember when i had to eat a kangaroo's penis , i said, eat a kangaroo's penis, i said, i've had worse things in my mouth it was mouth and but it it was everything was disgusting. but

now it's even more disgusting . now it's even more disgusting. and i'm a great fan of nigel's. i think he's terrific and he's doing exactly what he should be doing exactly what he should be doing is actually doing everything because you've got to remember, nothing is going to kill you . you don't seem fazed, kill you. you don't seem fazed, does he at all? >> what? he doesn't seem fazed. >> what? he doesn't seem fazed. >> no, but he's right. that's exactly what you should think. >> no, but he's right. that's existly what you should think. >> no, but he's right. that's exis disgusting.j should think. >> no, but he's right. that's exis disgusting. someld think. >> no, but he's right. that's exis disgusting. someld the k. it is disgusting. some of the things to do and get things you have to do and get poured over you and eat and all sorts of things and drink. so it's not easy. >> is nigel getting it right so far? how is he coming across ? far? how is he coming across? >> i think he's coming across brilliantly . i mean, really brilliantly. i mean, i really do. i mean, ijust think brilliantly. i mean, i really do. i mean, i just think he's everything about him. i just love him . i think he's love him. i think he's fantastic. i also love the fact that he's actually being very clean and it's important when you're in there because you do get so filthy and all those things poured over you. and he's having a bath, he's having a shower showing his bottom. and i think that's absolutely right. i didn't i used my boxers and i used to go in like that around

with the boxers still on because i wasn't going to show anything that i got smooth things around. smooth. smooth things around. exactly but it is it is. you know, have to be very clean know, you have to be very clean because it's very important because it's very important because you do come out smelling appallingly. because you do come out smelling appallingly . and the first thing appallingly. and the first thing you do when you get to the versace hotel is have a shower and . and a bath. >> well, nigel, he looks great. i mean, he looks well, he doesn't look like he's sleep depnved doesn't look like he's sleep deprived or hasn't eaten much in the days and would the last seven days and would you you be in a position you would you be in a position to bum out ten? to rate his bum out of ten? >> um , yes, i probably say six. >> um, yes, i probably say six. >> um, yes, i probably say six. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> not bad for a man of middle age. let's be honest. no exactly. aiden the plan for nigel. i spoke to him before he went into the jungle was to reach out to a younger audience . reach out to a younger audience. watch. i'm a celebrity. is that working ? working? >> yeah, i think it's working. i mean, i think it's no surprise to me that he's done well in there. i met him for the first time very about time in this very building about two ago. and two and a half years ago. and i was bit wary because, you was a bit wary because, you

know, i admired him from afar and say, you know, maybe he and i say, you know, maybe he might disappointed when you might be disappointed when you meet a meet them in person. he took a little a while, a bit of little bit of a while, a bit of a kind of trust me in a while to kind of trust me in a way. i would say, because he's probably i mean, got he's probably i mean, he's got he's got security six days a got a security detail six days a week. know, actually said week. you know, i actually said to do you do you to him, i said, do you do you regret going into what did, regret going into what you did, you odd years ago when regret going into what you did, you took odd years ago when regret going into what you did, you took decision rs ago when regret going into what you did, you took decision to ago when regret going into what you did, you took decision to go�* when regret going into what you did, you took decision to go intoen you took the decision to go into politics? he said, no, i believed in in what i was doing. that was good enough but that was good enough for me. but it me little get it took me a little while to get to i was on to know him. and then i was on his show a few times and then things thawing things started thawing a little bit. but this is different challenge go challenge because he has to go and impression straight and make an impression straight away. no room and make an impression straight awtany no room and make an impression straight awtany barriers, no room and make an impression straight awtany barriers, no no room and make an impression straight awtany barriers, no rooms. room for any barriers, no rooms. there's for any walls there's no room for any walls to be down. and, you know, be knocked down. and, you know, he's charisma be knocked down. and, you know, hea charisma be knocked down. and, you know, hea quality charisma be knocked down. and, you know, hea quality lacking charisma be knocked down. and, you know, hea quality lacking in charisma be knocked down. and, you know, hea quality lacking in the 'isma is a quality lacking in the modern of modern generation of politicians. and he has got it in you. in abundance. let me tell you. >> made win? >> has he made any a win? >> has he made any a win? >> what? >> what? >> i don't think he will win. >> i don't think he will win. >> why nigel win? >> now, why won't nigel win? because there other because i think there are other people in there who will win, like josie. >> there's some good people in there. there are. >> are very. >> there are some very. >> there are some very. >> gives, josie the edge? >> what gives, josie the edge? >> what gives, josie the edge? >> come >> josie is you see, people come to they're to me for advice when they're going they come

going into the jungle. they come and what is the what do you and say, what is the what do you suggest and always suggest i do? and i always say to self. and suggest i do? and i always say to is self. and suggest i do? and i always say to is the self. and suggest i do? and i always say to is the message,f. and suggest i do? and i always say to is the message, because|d that is the message, because you're in there for three weeks. if start as if you start going in as a character, your way. character, you lose your way. >> the first series, first or second brother, second series of big brother, you had nick, nick bateman you had nasty nick, nick bateman trying to play the game, wasn't it? trying be somebody trying to play the game, wasn't it? wasn't. trying be somebody trying to play the game, wasn't it? wasn't. and|g be somebody trying to play the game, wasn't it? wasn't. and eventuallynebody trying to play the game, wasn't it? wasn't. and eventually he )ody trying to play the game, wasn't it? wasn't. and eventually he got he wasn't. and eventually he got he wasn't. and eventually he got he unstuck, came he got he got unstuck, came unstuck. a year later unstuck. and about a year later he writing column in the he was writing a column in the express that's how express with me. that's how i know that ian wright is a wonderful football hero, an arsenal legend. wonderful football hero, an arsybut legend. wonderful football hero, an arsybut think legend. wonderful football hero, an arsybut think couplejend. wonderful football hero, an arsybut think couple of d. wonderful football hero, an arsybut think couple of times >> but i think a couple of times he a of slightly he showed a sort of slightly impatient side, didn't he, when he was in the jungle. and it didn't impress people. >> a little bit >> yeah, it looked a little bit contrived well. think nigel contrived as well. i think nigel benn little that benn was a little bit like that as think was in it as well. i think he was in it about in it with about he was in it with christine hamilton, actually in about you see see about 2005. so you see you see people trying play the game people trying to play the game and in reality and you see it in all reality shows, actually. and that defeats the whole shows, actually. and that defea'because the whole shows, actually. and that defea'because it's the whole shows, actually. and that defea'because it's not he whole shows, actually. and that defea'because it's not it'snhole shows, actually. and that defea'because it's not it's not e thing because it's not it's not reality. >> and obviously you are completely of the editors. >> right? >> is that right? >> is that right? >> because some >> unbelievably, because some people never get a look in. yeah, you know, they're just there a sort of furnishings

there as a sort of furnishings and then they concentrate on the people that they think are going to be attractive to the audience. >> wayne sleep win it just by not actually being part of. >> no, i don't think he did, did he? >> maybe. maybe. >> maybe. maybe. >> he i think he might >> i think he i think he might have can't have gone quite far. i can't remember if became king. remember if he became king. chloe i'm chloe your verdict on i'm a celebrity is it a celebrity this year. is it a good celebrity this year. is it a gooyeah, don't normally watch >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, have been very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see have been very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigelz been very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel oneen very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel on it] very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel on it .very excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel on it. iary excited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel on it. i have.cited >> yeah, i don't normally watch it, see nigel on it. i have to ed to see nigel on it. i have to say, i was watching your say, when i was watching your show last night, mark and my computer screen completely froze. at the moment that you were showing the clip of nigel in the bathtub. but i saw him eating those disgusting pizzas and i was there squirming just watching it. and he just he just doesn't care. he just powers through. i have so much more respect for him now. i had a lot of respect . of respect. >> but in the six out of ten, do you think six of ten, his bottom? >> i didn't see the actual boss. i saw him laying in bath and i saw him laying in the bath and that, i didn't see the bum. that, but i didn't see the bum. >> eight. >> i think it's an eight. >> i think it's an eight. >> know interesting, >> you know what's interesting, though? there's a girl in there i've of nellie. i've never heard of nellie. yeah. she made yeah. yeah. and she really made

me came on. then me laugh when she came on. then suddenly got very nigel. suddenly she got very nigel. well, not attack nigel. first of all, she attacked the frenchman in. yeah, in a very , very bad in. yeah, in a very, very bad way. well, yeah. >> greg. greg see if you can grab any of that footage with nella nigel, it is nella and nigel, because it is quite compelling. nella and nigel, because it is quite cthis,elling. nella and nigel, because it is quite (this, thisg. nella and nigel, because it is quite (this, this lady, nella >> so this, this lady, nella rose.is >> so this, this lady, nella rose. is that what she's called? yeah, she's become something of a sort of pantomime villain on the show. >> yeah, she's exactly. >> yeah, she's exactly. >> she's exactly. begins what itv want, which is somebody that creates a bit of drama . she's creates a bit of drama. she's definitely achieving that. >> absolutely . and now she's >> absolutely. and now she's back to talking her. the person that she hated . fred. syria. that she hated. fred. syria. fred syria. that's right. now and then, of course, i thought that he handled it brilliantly. nigel >> i think that he did. >> i think that he did. >> and i think that it was it's opportunities like that where he really shows to that younger audience that this isn't some crazy racist . bigoted individual crazy racist. bigoted individual and he actually gets a chance to show himself to be the same normal person, even if they don't agree with his point. at

the end of the day, they see that more reasonable. that he's more reasonable. it's not crazy racist. not some crazy racist. >> the jungle >> you can do that in the jungle as i think in way as well. i think in a way that you can't that the street you can't do that on the street because you start because as soon as you start doing street, having doing that on the street, having an argument someone the an argument with someone on the tube the pavement or tube or or on the pavement or whatever, you have someone coming objects whatever, you have someone coming and objects whatever, you have someone coming and goodness objects whatever, you have someone coming and goodness knowss whatever, you have someone coming and goodness knows what and eggs and goodness knows what else. articulate, he said. >> he's a very articulate guy. >> he's a very articulate guy. >> saying they >> the telegraph is saying they gave today in gave the show two stars today in their it's their paper and they said it's boring. not enough nigel boring. there's not enough nigel and they don't think of and they don't think outside of nigel that and they don't think outside of nig a that and they don't think outside of nig a vintage that and they don't think outside of nig a vintage year. that it's a vintage year. >> they have a mark his >> do they have a mark for his bottom well, how many bottom as well? well, how many stars for that? >> would up to six >> that would take it up to six stars. but i mean, do we think is it popping some people are saying nigel saying there isn't enough. nigel on the show. no, possibly. >> look, think the >> i mean, look, i think the show prior to this, i would show is prior to this, i would have kind of have said the format was kind of not dying a death. but you get tired of things while, tired of things after a while, don't but i think, yeah, don't you? but i think, yeah, he's time. not just he's a long time. not just nigel. think whatever think nigel. i think whatever we think of , nella i nigel. i think whatever we think of, nella i think she's of, of nella rose, i think she's watchable. she annoys us. but we watchable. she annoys us. but we watch her. we're talking about indeed. >> the other thing, the great scene. i thought that reflected well on nigel was the bushtucker

trial on. i think it was the second evening with nella . they second evening with nella. they both had to eat disgusting food and. >> and the pizzas, the pizzas . >> and the pizzas, the pizzas. yeah, i watched that. >> i showed his character there that he was very supportive of nella and really encourage her. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> not only was he super tough headed on getting through his own pizzas, he was giving her countdowns. he was giving her words information . was words of information. i was thinking nigel thinking after that, nigel should speaker instead. >> well, yes, let's . now, look, >> well, yes, let's. now, look, we've got footage of this we've just got footage of this argument with argument that nigel had with nella and happened nella rose and what happened there , interestingly begins is there, interestingly begins is that she said, why does everyone hate you? yes. why do all black people hate you? and he said, you'd be surprised they don't. and then he said that he goes to south london. and she said, what are doing in london? i are you doing in south london? i don't saw that episode. >> did. i did . >> i did. i did. >> i did. i did. >> but i mean, in a way, it was >> i did. i did. >> buof mean, in a way, it was >> i did. i did. >> buof microcosm way, it was >> i did. i did. >> buof microcosm ofay, it was >> i did. i did. >> buof microcosm of how was >> i did. i did. >> buof microcosm of how mad a sort of microcosm of how mad the conversation around immigration i've got immigration is and how, i've got to informed people to say, ill informed some people are very informed. are very ill informed. >> so nella was i mean, i think nella was quite surprised by the

outcome of that conversation that had with him. and that she had with him. and i think was taken aback in a think she was taken aback in a way. i think that's what's way. but i think that's what's great. i mean, that that that that and i think it's not enough of series. i think of that in the series. i think it's may be towards it's i think it may be towards the of its life way. the end of its life in a way. >> is that how far how far >> is that right how far how far do think imaceleb go ? do you think imaceleb could go? >> do think 1 or 2 series >> do you think 1 or 2 series left? what you're suggesting? >> , i think yes. >> yes, i think probably yes. >> yes, i think probably yes. >> the talent getting >> and also the talent getting a bit too expensive. >> i mean, million bit too expensive. >:they i mean, million bit too expensive. >:they if i mean, million bit too expensive. >:they if that's�*nean, million bit too expensive. >:they if that's right. million bit too expensive. >:they if that's right . million bit too expensive. >:they if that's right . they're on if they if that's right. they're paying if they if that's right. they're paying nigel. >> that's half got >> that's half what you got isn't it. yeah. >> that's half what you got isn'drinks ah. >> that's half what you got isn'drinks are on begin. yes. >> drinks are on begin. yes. greg, have we got time for headune greg, have we got time for headline ? okay. headline heroes? okay. brilliant. listen let's now have a look at the headline heroes and back page heroes of the day. and chloe, who's your headline? hero? >> it's actually boris today for insisting that we must raise the salary threshold for non—eu workers to 45,000 from 26. you know, usually when we see changes in this sort of thing, it'll be from 26 to 28 or something like that. he's saying no hard line needs to be forced.

>> it means you only come no hard line needs to be forced. >>the it means you only come no hard line needs to be forced. >>the country s you only come no hard line needs to be forced. >>the country ifyou only come no hard line needs to be forced. >>the country if you're only come no hard line needs to be forced. >>the country if you're going come to the country if you're going to the country if you're going to or yeah exactly. >> they're going to add to this country it's clear 745,000 net country. it's clear 745,000 net migration out of control. migration is out of control. we need strict measures and need strict measures now. and bofis need strict measures now. and boris pushing the government boris is pushing the government on your headline hero. >> it's a gentleman by the name of chao benicio . he is the of chao benicio. he is the delivery driver of delivery delivery driver of delivery delivery driver of delivery delivery driver to be more specific, other brands are available of course. he fought off the attacker in dublin this week and proved that not all immigrants are out to cause trouble for the people of ireland, which is the narrative that's been spun bit that's been spun a little bit this but fought back this week. but he fought back and i he did. he did the and i think he did. he did the country proud. >> what a wonderful hero. your headune headline hero begins nigel farage two, right? farage is bottom two, right? >> ten out of ten. and the cheeky choice. >> i mean, think for a man in >> i mean, i think for a man in in his mid to late 50s 58. >> is that right? looks good. >> is that right? looks good. >> it's not shoddy is it? and he's quite comfortable in the buff. he's quite comfortable in the buerah , absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> he doesn't he doesn't hide anything from viewers or listeners. i can't unsee listeners. and i can't unsee that image. page zeros.

that image. now back page zeros. who's yours? chloe >> david cameron. he is causing division already by saying, oh, the uk needs closer ties with the uk needs closer ties with the eu . he's trying to respark the eu. he's trying to respark the eu. he's trying to respark the brexit debate. look, if you're going to come back into government, just do your job. don't stir up division. don't start trying to bring william hague shtick. isn't it? yeah, it's need the tories to be it's we need the tories to be unhed it's we need the tories to be united more than ever at the moment. we our biggest problem is are always divided. is that we are always divided. and he's in causing and he's coming in and causing more helping more division. he's not helping at all. really unimpressed at all. i'm really unimpressed by this . there you go. by this. there you go. >> your back. >> your back. >> page zero we mentioned >> page zero aiden we mentioned him half hour ago, i him about half an hour ago, i think , the irish think leo varadkar, the irish shark . shark. >> it's very rare that i would say that need to say of anyone that they need to be themselves . but be ashamed of themselves. but even , a senior even a politician, a senior politician, but his failures capture the mood, given everything that was happening within his country, right on his doorstep instead took doorstep. and instead he took the to make the the opportunity to make the point well, you know, point that, well, you know, basically we're right. you know, the you think are the problems that you think are happening aren't really happening. problem happening. it's just a problem with i thought with the far right, i thought embarrassed the public

>> yeah. gaslighting the public and focus on people rioting and more focus on people rioting than the original crime, which was the stabbing of several people, including a five year old child. >> there were people on social media what what actually media saying what what actually happened, what's how the family because was talking because everyone was talking about there was about something else. there was about something else. there was a the shock seize a chance of the shock to seize the story there. and the nub of the story there. and he it. and he completely ignored it. and chose his own selfish ends. >> something we chose his own selfish ends. >> all something we chose his own selfish ends. >> all stressething we chose his own selfish ends. >> all stress is1ing we chose his own selfish ends. >> all stress is that we we will all stress is that we condemn wholeheartedly the violence saw the violence we saw in the aftermath. but for aftermath. absolutely but for people be fed up and not people to be fed up and not happy people to be fed up and not happyis people to be fed up and not happy is an important debate to be briefly, if you be had. begins briefly, if you can, zero. can, your back. page zero. >> . he's ruined my >> sadiq khan. he's ruined my family or is ruining my fabulous city. i love it. and i'm thinking of getting out of it because of him and it's just a nightmare. everything is a nightmare. everything is a nightmare. getting here tonight was a nightmare. yeah. getting home will be a nightmare. >> advice home will be a nightmare. >> property, advice home will be a nightmare. >> property, so advice home will be a nightmare. >> property, so is advice home will be a nightmare. >> property, so is he. advice home will be a nightmare. >> property, so is he. know. :e on property, so is he. i know. i know that serious about know that he's serious about getting out. yeah, exactly. >> couple of >> begins only a couple of seconds . seconds. >> jimmy saville, page of >> jimmy saville, front page of the sunday. yes. is the star sunday. yes. this is your reaction? >> . this is mom's bedroom >> yeah. this is a mom's bedroom ordeal. haunted by the ordeal. she's haunted by the cigar ghost jimmy cigar smoking ghost of jimmy saville i sadly him on a

saville i sadly met him on a couple of occasions, and if i think about it, i can bring back the smell of the cigar and the nylon that he used to wear. all those shells . suits were nylon, those shells. suits were nylon, and it was disgusting. dreadful. he was. >> tm t— e go . listen. loved >> there you go. listen. loved my tonight . loved your my pundits tonight. loved your company well done, company as well. well done, lottie, greg and josh , and lottie, greg and josh, and thanks for your emails. i can't do this without you. i'll do this show without you. i'll see tomorrow . show nine. see you tomorrow. show at nine. headliners is next. hello there. >> welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snailwell . tonight it's going to snailwell. tonight it's going to be another dry and cold and frosty one for most of us. a bit of a change out towards the west and courtesy of this and that's all courtesy of this weather just going weather front. that's just going to some cloud and rain to bring in some cloud and rain as the goes on. but with as the night goes on. but with high pressure generally in charge of the uk, charge across much of the uk, clear skies, it's a perfect recipe for a widely frosty night across the uk. still a bit of a breeze down the eastern seaboard . so here actually temperatures will stay just above will just stay just above freeze. and later on as we freeze. and then later on as we start see this cloud and rain start to see this cloud and rain move temperatures will move in, temperatures will recover towards the west. so as

we start sunday morning, we could few mist and could just see a few mist and freezing patches around , but freezing fog patches around, but they quickly clear and they will quickly clear and we'll just start to see this area of cloud and rain just gradually spread its way a little further eastwards. little bit further eastwards. so sunshine turning increasingly hazy eastern areas, hazy across many eastern areas, but largely dry here as but staying largely dry here as the day goes on. best of the sunshine up across parts of northern and eastern scotland. but the far north actually just seeing few outbreaks of rain. seeing a few outbreaks of rain. temperatures in the west a little bit higher than they will be today, but still on the cold side for the time of year into monday, a bit of a grey, damp start across many parts of the uk. some sunshine across western scotland and northern ireland. that will spread its way a little bit further southwards as that will spread its way a littldayt further southwards as that will spread its way a littlday goes1er southwards as that will spread its way a littlday goes on. ;outhwards as that will spread its way a littlday goes on. but1wards as that will spread its way a littlday goes on. but stillis as the day goes on. but still feeling fairly cold and that cold theme will continue as we go into tuesday and wednesday. but it will turn a little bit dner but it will turn a little bit drier and brighter

>> very good evening to you . i'm >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom . emily hand, a nine newsroom. emily hand, a nine year old irish israeli girl, is amongst 17 hostages released by hamas after 50 days in captivity . 13 israelis, six women and seven children, along with 40 thai nationals, were carried out of gaza on board red cross vehicles through the rafah border crossing . the idf says border crossing. the idf says the released hostages are now in israel and on their way to hospital, where they will be reunited with their families in exchange. 39 palestinians have been freed a prison in the been freed from a prison in the west bank. a source close to the discussions says 33 children and six women make up that number. it comes on day two of a four day pause in fighting . day pause in fighting. meanwhile, a four year old girl released on friday after being held captive by hamas told her father she dreamed of coming home. raz asher , her two year home. raz asher, her two year old sister, aviv , and her old sister, aviv, and her mother, doron, were released and

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