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claiming today. but will is claiming today. but will those flights ever take off.7 and the ceasefire crumbles .7 the ceasefire crumbles? >> rockets have been seen hurtling through the skies of gaza, fired by both the hamas terror group and the israeli defence forces . with war back defence forces. with war back on, what are the consequences for britain . for britain. >> and tom, what do you make of this king charles? he's flown to dubai . he's been at the cop dubai. he's been at the cop summit and he's flown to the climate summit. he has amazing so there's one point of discussion, perhaps , and he's discussion, perhaps, and he's warned us all that humans are carrying out a vast, warned us all that humans are carrying out a vast , frightening carrying out a vast, frightening experiment at a fast, frightening experiment . frightening experiment. >> does he mean those insecure laboratories in wuhan, where they're doing pathogen research? >> is that a is that a vast experiment that's fairly frightening. >> that's not what he means.
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>> that's not what he means. >> i believe he means he's talking about how human cells are carrying out this vast, frightening experiment, when, of course, it comes our planet . course, it comes to our planet. and to some degree, he's certainly right. i mean, the amount of pollution across the globe is astonishing . and we all globe is astonishing. and we all need to cut down. but there was something of the greta thunberg about the fact said, we are about the fact he said, we are in our survivability is in perilled our survivability is at stake because of climate change and the way we're treating the planet. but of course, yes , he did arrive by course, yes, he did arrive by jet . jet. >> it's interesting, this vast, frightening experiment has been going on for what is it, 250, almost 300 years since the industrial revolution started. the 1800s, industrial revolution started. the 18005, 200 industrial revolution started. the 1800s, 200 years. and it's perhaps it's not that much of an experiment when almost everyone agrees, everyone signed up to all of these memoranda to get carbon emissions down, but not sure about that. let us know what you think about the king's comments. >> gbviews@gbnews.com but first, let's get to your headlines with sophia .
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sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 12:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. members of aslef aslef have voted overwhelmingly to continue strike action for the next six months in their ongoing dispute over pay. the announcement comes as its members at 16 train companies are refusing to work overtime from today until next saturday. the company said they will operate as many trains as possible, but some areas may have no services. the union accused the government and the employers of not trying to negotiate, but rail delivery group says the union should accept the offer that will bring the train driver salary from 60 to £65,000. travel journalist simon calder said it's a bleak start to december. a day today is only the start because we are going to see a whole series starting tomorrow of rolling strikes. >> one region at a time, one day at a time. the train drivers
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belonging to aslef are basically wanting to say we can cause an awful lot of problems to travellers . and then the worst travellers. and then the worst day of december, i predict, is going to be on sunday when there won't be any trains from here on avanti west coast or on london, northwestern railway . northwestern railway. >> the former health secretary says he was in despair that the government had announced a tier system it knew would not work. speaking at the covid inquiry, matt hancock said the rule of six and tiers didn't go far enough to help stop the spread of the virus . mr hancock also of the virus. mr hancock also accused boris johnson of being not willing to go further in terms of national restrictions. in the autumn of 2020. he said school closures could have been avoided in 2021 if the government had acted more swiftly . the government will swiftly. the government will issue renewed calls for sustained humanitaire pauses in gaza after the collapse of a week long truce between israel
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and hamas . the fighting resumed and hamas. the fighting resumed after israel accused the terrorist group of violating the ceasefire agreement by firing a rocket before the truce was meant to end. qatar and egypt mediator are seeking to extend the truce to continue the release of hostages . the king release of hostages. the king says countries are dreadfully far off achieving climate goals . far off achieving climate goals. at the cop 28 summit in dubai , at the cop 28 summit in dubai, giving an opening address at the world climate action summit. the monarch said the hope of the world rests on the decisions taken at the gathering. the prime minister will also address the summit later and is expected to announce £1.6 billion for eco projects abroad. the king said the dangers of climate change are no longer distant risks . are no longer distant risks. >> we are witnessing our choice now is a starker and darker one. how dangerous are we actually prepared to make our. how dangerous are we actually prepared to make our . world prepared to make our. world deaung prepared to make our. world dealing with? this is a job for
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us all. change will come by working together and making it easier to embrace decisions that will sustain our world rather than carry on as though there are no limits. >> sir keir starmer. ed miliband and david lammy are also attending the summit in an exclusive gb news interview, the labour leader said reaching 2030 net zero goals is vital for the uk. if we can get to clean power by 2030, that means lower bills, not just for one year or two years, but permanently lower bills. >> it also means energy security, which means that putin can't put his foot on our throat and we don't pay higher prices because of international conflict. it also means that we get the next generation of jobs skilled jobs, secure jobs that are desperately needed. so the cost is actually if we don't do it, not if we do, do it . it, not if we do, do it. >> the prime minister says the government is finalising legislation to push through his rwanda asylum plan as his
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patience is worn thin by setbacks to the deal . rishi setbacks to the deal. rishi sunak says around £140 million has already been spent to house illegal migrants in hotels . the illegal migrants in hotels. the rwanda plan initially failed after european judges intervened , calling it unlawful. but a new legislation could disapply human rights laws for illegal migrants . there could also be a new treaty which ensures they cannot be sent from rwanda to the country that they had fled from . country that they had fled from. a yellow weather warning for snow and ice has been extended until tomorrow for parts of the uk as temperatures are expected to drop as low as minus ten degrees . the impacted areas degrees. the impacted areas include eastern coast of the uk, stretching from scotland to east anglia . meanwhile, the uk health anglia. meanwhile, the uk health security agency has issued amber cold weather alerts in five regions as hilly areas including nonh regions as hilly areas including north york moors , parts of north york moors, parts of scotland and are expected to see snow today . this is gb news snow today. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your
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car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play on your smart speaker. by saying play . play. gb news. >> good afternoon, britain. in the next half an hour the prime minister will get to his feet, confirming £1.6 billion in uk funding for climate projects abroad. that's when he speaks at the cop 28 summit in dubai. >> so our question is this a good use of taxpayer money and indeed, what else is the prime minister likely to say when he takes to the stand? >> well , let's put that takes to the stand? >> well, let's put that question to our man in dubai. none other than gb news political editor christopher hope, who's travelled with the prime minister chris, the prime minister's announcement has already been set back by around 45 minutes. what does that tell us? well it's busy here at the cop 2028 meeting here. >> tom and emily. we do know
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that he has had a meeting with paul kagame, who is the president of rwanda. that is deeply significant because, of course, the uk and rwanda are shortly to announce a new treaty that should allow provide assurances to uk judges that any migrants taken from the uk back to rwanda for processing if they arrive illegally over the southern border will not be returned to the countries they came from if they're fleeing persecution. so that meeting and there was no one at it, it was a brushed by meeting. no journalists were there, no cameras but that ten cameras filmed it. but that ten minute could be deeply minute meeting could be deeply significant getting significant point in getting this migrant issue this answer to the migrant issue for the uk under some sort of control. but that's that's that's that's why these press conferences can be delayed by an hour or so because new things happen. you have got the world leaders heard in a leaders here. you heard in a bulletin, of course, our head of state, king charles sunak, of course, is our head of government . we're the only government. we're the only country, i think, here with the head of state head of head of state and head of government. wants
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government. now the uk wants to say that cop matters, say that shows that cop matters, but are only here for about but we are only here for about eight, 8 or 12 hours in the cop summit . sir eight, 8 or 12 hours in the cop summit. sir keir starmer is here. he's been here for two days, leaves tomorrow . he's been days, leaves tomorrow. he's been meeting with the nato secretary—general, the king of jordan. he's behaving like an incoming prime minister whereas our prime minister is leaving quite soon on. i'm not sure how that looks in the family photograph he has featured at the back the of all the world the back of the of all the world leaders , as would it has leaders, as he would say it has been this been saying that this is a stocktake to try and see stocktake meeting to try and see how far we can down, to how far we can get down, to bnng how far we can get down, to bring down the emissions to the 1.5% in 2015. in 1.5% level. agreed in 2015. in paris, he says that the uk is and he's right to say this a world leader amongst the g7 and decarbonisation . but of course decarbonisation. but of course he's watered down those targets, hasn't he, from 20, 20, 30 to 2035 on sales of new cars , new 2035 on sales of new cars, new cars and new diesel cars . cars and new diesel cars. earlier here at cop, i caught up with sir keir starmer for gb news and he gave us this interview. keir starmer we're here in cop 28, your big thing
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if you win an election is your dash for the green power by 2030. but won't that drive up bills for families who can least afford it? >> it will do the complete opposite we can get to clean opposite if we can get to clean power by 2030, means lower power by 2030, that means lower bills, not just for one year or two years, but permanently lower bills. it also means energy security, which means that putin can't put his foot on our throat and we don't pay higher prices because of international conflict. it also means that we get the next generation of jobs, skilled jobs, secure jobs that are desperately needed. so the cost is actually if we don't do it, not if we do, do it well. look, the important point is that we were going we are determined to hit clean power by 2030, lower bills , energy 2030, lower bills, energy security, the next generation of jobs. we will invest first to ensure that we get those benefits ramping up to £28 billion in the second part of the parliament. that is obviously subject to our fiscal rules . but the cost will be if
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rules. but the cost will be if we don't make the transition, not if we do. do it. what i've found is that when people are asked, do you want your energy bills to go down, do you want the next generation of jobs to bills to go down, do you want thein ext generation of jobs to bills to go down, do you want thein youraneration of jobs to bills to go down, do you want thein your community?iobs to bills to go down, do you want thein your community? there's be in your community? there's a resounding that. but the resounding yes to that. but the reason we've got higher energy bills, reason people bills, the reason people are struggling the cost struggling with the cost of living because living crisis is because previous the previous governments, the current ducked current government, have ducked tough incoming tough decisions and incoming labour government not going labour government is not going to decisions to take the tough decisions needed for future of our needed for the future of our country . country. >> it's interesting listening to sir keir starmer there about ducking tough decisions. people might say that successive governments have ducked decisions on big projects like nuclear power . we haven't built nuclear power. we haven't built one of those since margaret thatcher last approved the last one to be constructed, but christopher hope, i believe you've got some news about the prime minister's press conference this . conference this. >> that's right. while i've been on air, we've had a text from the team here from downing street who are travelling with the minister the prime minister they've delayed press conference to delayed the press conference to 1 uk time. we'll be taking 1p.m. uk time. we'll be taking it gb news and i'll
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it live on gb news and i'll hopefully be able to report off the back by maybe dashing the back of it by maybe dashing for because we're for a plane because we're getting tight with the getting quite tight with the return journey. tom going return journey. but tom going back keir starmer , back there to sir keir starmer, i mean they do put a lot of store in this dash for green growth. they make clear they want to spend £28 billion of taxpayers money raised, maybe from from when , when they can from from when, when they can afford to under their own fiscal rules in the back end of the of the first parliament of a labour government. so that would the government. so that would be the back decade. what back end of this decade. what they of course, they want to do, of course, is lots wind and i asked lots of wind farms. and i asked asked sir keir, perhaps bit asked sir keir, perhaps a bit cheekily, would you to live cheekily, would you want to live next wind farm people next to a wind farm given people tell quite loud , tell me they're quite loud, quite said yes , no quite noisy. he said yes, no problem. that not everyone here who gets a new wind farm next to them agree that. them would agree with that. maybe >> i suppose it depends. if they if they get those discounts on the that the labour the bills that the labour party is well, those is promising. well, for those living those wind living near near those wind farms, christopher hope, farms, but christopher hope, thank bringing thank you so much for bringing us we'll let you us that news and we'll let you rush and hopefully get rush off and hopefully get a question for the prime minister rush off and hopefully get a qu�*well. for the prime minister rush off and hopefully get a qu�*well. for the crossed'iinister rush off and hopefully get a qu�*well. for the crossed it's;ter as well. fingers crossed it's been from 1145 now
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been pushed back from 1145 now to 1:00. >> hopefully it will go ahead at 1:00. thank you very much, christopher. so christopher. hope there. so joining john fletcher, joining us now is john fletcher, deputy of the deputy director of the conservative environment network. john we were leading the show this morning with the question of whether rishi sunak should be spending so much taxpayer money on international climate projects, 1.6 billion. he will. he's set to confirm in his speech today at that conference. what do you say to that? what do you say to people who say, you know, we're hard up in this country? is that the best use of our money? >> i think know thank you very much having good much for having me. good afternoon. both. i think the challenge , as always, with money challenge, as always, with money spent overseas is that people are sceptical for exactly the reasons you've set out, but actually , if it's spent wisely actually, if it's spent wisely and it's properly , this and if it's spent properly, this is some of the best money we can spend. net zero isn't something that can just do in that we can we can just do in the uk and then shut our minds off happening in the off to what's happening in the rest world. it will only
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rest of the world. it will only be if we can achieve be a success if we can achieve it and the uk has a big it globally and the uk has a big role to play in that. >> are countries that just >> there are countries that just cannot decarbonise cannot afford to decarbonise like struggling like we can and are struggling with impacts of it. if we with the impacts of it. if we spend that money overseas and spend that money overseas and spend wisely, can spend it wisely, we can make a meaningful difference. that's good terms good for us in terms of protecting us against the impacts climate change. impacts of climate change. >> that point, are >> johnny, on that point, are you that we as you convinced that we as a nafion you convinced that we as a nation have enough influence as you would like to see? because one of the cornerstones of our climate policy in this country is the idea that even if we decarbonise here, one of the best things we can do is influence other carbon emitting nafions influence other carbon emitting nations to cut back on their own emissions. do you believe that we are having that amount of influence that these types of summits ? summits? >> well, i think we are. i mean, i think, as you know, the uk hosted cop26 two years ago when we assumed the presidency for that, the uk had adopted a net zero target. we were outlier . zero target. we were an outlier. we major economy we were the first major economy to adopt such in law . to adopt such a target in law. and now you've got net zero
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targets of varying degrees , but targets of varying degrees, but net zero targets that now cover , net zero targets that now cover, i think, over 90% of the global economy. so i think we've shown through our presidency of these talks that we have got that influence . and i think we are influence. and i think we are taken seriously in these in taken very seriously in these in these areas, not given these areas, not least given that standing that the long standing relationships with relationships we've got with very significant players in other parts of the world, it's fascinating listening to people talk about the united kingdom's emissions. >> of course, half halved since 1990, but that hasn't come without costs. the industrial price of energy in the united kingdom has trebled since the early 2000. we've seen steelmaking leave our shores. we've seen many parts of industry that rely on energy intensity for face some real, real trouble . oil. is it real trouble. oil. is it therefore potentially be the best success story to sell around the world? that potentially when it comes to energy security? yes yes. we've
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halved our emissions , but it's halved our emissions, but it's come at quite a cost . i think. come at quite a cost. i think. >> yeah, you're right to say that costs have gone up. but i think if you look at the uk's energy mix, one of the huge problems we've had and certainly what's in what's caused the spike in energy last couple what's caused the spike in enyears last couple what's caused the spike in enyears been last couple what's caused the spike in enyears been ourist couple what's caused the spike in enyears been our massivea of years has been our massive reliance , which is reliance on gas, which is obviously and is obviously a fossil fuel and is contributing climate change. obviously a fossil fuel and is cowe buting climate change. obviously a fossil fuel and is cowe got ng climate change. obviously a fossil fuel and is cowe got more climate change. obviously a fossil fuel and is cowe got more home:e change. obviously a fossil fuel and is cowe got more home grownige. if we got more home grown british renewable energy, which and i know you've talked about this a lot, tom, it's very hard to build energy. nuclear, wind, solar the if it was solar in the uk. if it was easier to build would easier to build that, we would be reliant on gas since the be less reliant on gas since the gas that's been the thing gas price that's been the thing that's really driven up costs for and uk for uk consumers and uk businesses, particularly in recent . we need to be more recent years. we need to be more reliant on clean energy that we isn't to those isn't susceptible to those global price fluctuations like gas. if we were, we'd be much more insulated and much more secure. >> yes, and it's worth noting that the chief executive of national gas has warned today that our gas network is maxed
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out at the moment in light of the cold snap we're experiencing. so concerns there. thank you for your time, john fletcher fletcher, deputy director of the conservative environment network. >> now, i should just bring some news people at home. news to people watching at home. rishi has just met with rishi sunak has just met with king abdullah, the second of jordan, of course, a crucial player in the middle east, a country that borders israel and has been very influential in that conflict. so sometimes these international summits aren't just about what it says on the tin. this isn't just about climate. he's met with the president of rwanda, of president of rwanda, the king of jordan , on this is about jordan, on this is about international affairs in many other degrees too. >> and that's clearly how it is with this press conference being pushed back in the way it has. well, got to meet well, you know, got to meet those people well, do those people when you. well, do you know what? >> begrudge him >> i don't i don't begrudge him pushing conference pushing the press conference back by hour. if he's getting back by an hour. if he's getting these meetings about back by an hour. if he's getting these security,aetings about back by an hour. if he's getting these security, should about back by an hour. if he's getting these security, should we�*ut back by an hour. if he's getting these security, should we speak global security, should we speak to who to benny peiser, who is the director zero watch, director of net zero watch, speaking behalf of the global speaking on behalf of the global warming speaking on behalf of the global wa|thank you very much indeed >> thank you very much indeed for us. your reaction to
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for joining us. your reaction to the commitment to spend £1.6 billion of our money on on climate infrastructure and climate infrastructure and climate projects abroad . climate projects abroad. >> yeah. thanks for having me. i'm speaking here on behalf of the global warming policy foundation. incidentally um, well , we have the foundation. incidentally um, well, we have the annual report full of these un climate conferences. they've been going on for nearly 30 years. it's always the kind of, you know, time is running out. it's our last chance to save the planet and so on. so these are just virtual signalling meetings. um, the question whether the money britain is actually transferring to developing nations will be measured and whether it will actually help them in any measurable way to deal with you know, the impacts of climate change. but the main thing is
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what the kind of discrepancy between the hot air that is being generated in in the air and what is actually happening in the real world. i mean, the american energy agency today published a their own kind of prediction that co2 emissions globally will continue to increase up to 2050 through to 2050. so the reality of what what countries are actually doing totally contradicts what europe is doing. they're not decarbonise . they they're going decarbonise. they they're going for the most reliable , for the most reliable, affordable forms of energy . and affordable forms of energy. and that's not renewables. that's basically natural gas and coal. and that's that's a reality. the indians, the chinese , most of indians, the chinese, most of asia are basically driving their economies on fossil fuels and that's not going to change. did
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john fletcher, the deputy director of the conservative environment network, have a point out that says we put the government in the way too much when it's about the renewable energy sources that we could have in this country that don't rely on taxpayer funding, businesses that want to build solar farms or wind farms or even nuclear power. >> too often a stopped by government, surely it would be a point consensus to repeal point of consensus to repeal those regulations that stop that construction . construction. >> absolutely. but then they should also stop any funding for these projects. and if you pull these projects. and if you pull the plug on the subsidies , you the plug on the subsidies, you know, 10 billion a year on subsidies for renewables, once you pull the plug, no one is going to build a wind farm or solar farm. they're just not economic. they don't make any sense without the funding. they get . the cost of the government get. the cost of the government gets out of the way by say, tenfold since 2010 to 2023, the cost of or the amount of energy you can generate from these wind
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farms has tumbled. >> these businesses really do want to build these things . no want to build these things. no they don't. >> they are without funding, without subsidies . no one >> they are without funding, without subsidies. no one is building them. that's why they are desperate. that's why they ask the government just a month ago to increase the subsidies by 70% when we will not energy secretary. >> she slashed the subsidies for solar power . there are virtually solar power. there are virtually no subsidies remaining . it's no subsidies remaining. it's a very different world to 2010. yeah >> why? you know, we had the auction half a year ago and there were no bids. they don't want to bid. and they said, well, unless we get more money, we're not going to build them. that tells you all you need to know. and the developing world can that europe is shooting can see that europe is shooting itself the foot by making itself in the foot by making energy so expensive . energy so expensive. >> right. well, thank you very much indeed for your time. benny peiser there, speaking on behalf of the global warming foundation. thank variation foundation. thank you. variation policy foundation . interesting policy foundation. interesting one, ? it's
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one, isn't it? it's a fascinating one. it's true. there is a huge amount of lobbying for government money from sector . from the renewable sector. >> yes. yes, i think i think i don't think there's a single sector business doesn't don't think there's a single secto government; doesn't don't think there's a single secto government money. >esn't don't think there's a single secto government money. thet want government money. the question is, would still question is, would they still build the things it? build the things without it? i think think think they would. well, i think they maybe coming up, the they would maybe coming up, the ceasefire over before ceasefire is over before hostilities recommence in gaza and israel. >> we'll have all the very latest with our security editor, mark white, after this .
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six till 930 . six till 930. >> well, fighting has resumed in gaza after the seven day temporary ceasefire between israel and hamas expired . israel and hamas expired. >> yes, both sides have blamed each other for the violence, restarting as aid trucks headed for gaza had been halted amid the renewed israeli military campaign. >> gb news home and security editor marc white joins us now. can you bring us up to date on the conflict? we know that the assault on hamas targets has recommend it. >> yes, there's been heavy bombardment across the gaza strip in the south as well , with strip in the south as well, with according to the hamas run health ministry, dozens of civilians that have been killed. now, this all began to just after 530 in the morning local time as rocket alert sirens and
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warnings sounded across southern israel as hamas began firing rockets into these locations. this is what it sounded like just after 530, that at dawn that around . seven adam, seven, that around. seven adam, seven, adam, seven. >> adam, seven . adam >> adam, seven. adam >> adam, seven. adam >> and then shortly after that, israel responded in kind with these missile strikes, strikes from fighter jets as well , from fighter jets as well, targeting hamas locations , towns targeting hamas locations, towns in the gaza strip . and in the gaza strip. and throughout the day it's continued to rage. at the same time , though, we do have time, though, we do have negotiations that are apparently still taking place . it's still taking place. it's brokered by both qatar and egypt with a view to trying to see whether or another humanitarian pause can begin to allow some more of these hostages out. but at the moment, it doesn't look
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good. israeli government spokesman ellen levi said this in terms of why the israeli government had decided to resume hostilities , says, fortunately , hostilities, says, fortunately, hamas decided to terminate the pause by failing to release all the kidnapped women as it was obligated to do so and kidnapped children . children. >> and by resuming rocket fire, the perpetrators of the october seventh massacre have decided to hold on to the hostages they brutally abducted in violation of humanitarian law and every norm of humanity. having chosen to hold on to our women , hamas to hold on to our women, hamas will now take the mother of all thumpings . and of course, while thumpings. and of course, while the hostilities continue in the gaza strip, then you've got the aid supplies that are supposed to be heading into gaza halted on the egypt border. >> at the moment, we did have very significant quantities of
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aid over the last week going into gaza , including fuel into gaza, including fuel suppues. into gaza, including fuel supplies. but for the moment, because of the precarious nature of the security on that border through the rafah crossing, these aid supplies have been halted and that, of course, is a real concern for the aid agencies who are just beginning to get these vital supplies into that strip . that strip. >> now, mark, it's not just, of course, bombardment that we've seen in gaza. the hamas terror organisation has been firing rockets into southern israel and of course , yesterday we saw of course, yesterday we saw hamas claim responsibility for the murder of three civilians in jerusalem , am far from gaza , jerusalem, am far from gaza, where a 24 year old pregnant teacher was slain in a school principal aged 65 and a judge as well, all killed by hamas in jerusalem. this conflict seems like it's spreading and all this doesis
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like it's spreading and all this does is cement it in the minds of israel's political and military leaders. >> the need to continue on with their campaign to eradicate hamas. that is their stated goal hamas. that is their stated goal. at the end of the day . and goal. at the end of the day. and clearly there is still significant capability that after the pause here with the resumption and hostilities, we've had dozens of rockets fired into israeli civilian areas again today. so still, as far as the israeli military believe there is a job of work for them to do. now, in terms of israel's support , was chief israel's support, was chief among them the united states, they are saying very publicly that they still back israel in its right to defend itself. but the us secretary of state, antony blinken, is also urging israel to do all that it can to ensure that civilian on civilians in gaza are are as as
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much as possible kept out of harm's way and israel has been dropping new leaflets . into the dropping new leaflets. into the gaza strip this time with a grid system, a grid of it seems hundreds of different squares says that israel is somehow going to communicate to the people of gaza that they need to move out of a certain area and into other areas. it seems that that could be fraught at with the potential for misunderstanding as we go forward. but that is the next tactic of the israeli military . tactic of the israeli military. >> well, mark, thank you very much for bringing us the very latest on that . latest on that. >> thank you, mark. the death and destruction that will be precipitated because of this and hamas saying that it was israel's fault. and of course , israel's fault. and of course, israel's fault. and of course, israel pointing out that they they did not abide by the ceasefire terms as we'll bring you keep you up to date on that as we go. but we're going to
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look ahead to sunak's delayed speech at cop 28 with our wonderful panel. but before that your headlines with sophia . your headlines with sophia. >> it's 1232. your headlines with sophia. >> it's1232. i'm your headlines with sophia. >> it's 1232. i'm sofia wenzel in the newsroom . members of in the newsroom. members of aslef have voted overwhelmingly to continue strike action for the next six months in their ongoing dispute over pay. the announcement comes as its members at 16 train companies are refusing to work over time. from today until saturday, the company said they will operate as many trains as possible, but some areas may have no services. union accused the government and the employers of not trying to negotiate , but rail delivery negotiate, but rail delivery group says the union should accept the offer that will bring train drivers salary from 60 to 65,000 . the former health 65,000. the former health secretary says he was in despair that the government had announced a tier system it knew would not work. speaking at the
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mornings from 930 on, gb news. >> good afternoon, britain. it's only a matter of minutes until we're expecting the prime minister to speak live from dubal minister to speak live from dubai. what will he be saying? what will he be announcing ? what will he be announcing? well, let's discuss it all with the former labour mp and former defence minister, eival kaplan and the former australian foreign minister, alexander downer . downer. >> i'm interested to know whether you've experience summits like this , both of you, summits like this, both of you, but i'll start with you, alexander well, when i was the foreign minister, i frequently went to summits of one kind or another cop included, and obviously you use those summit meetings as an opportunity city to meet with your counterparts from a range of countries that are important to you and to have discussions with them about any manner of issues you you're not
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just going to sit in the conference hall listening to a series of pre—prepared, prepared speeches. so this is why we've heard from christopher hope, our political editor , that rishi political editor, that rishi sunak has been having meetings with the rwandan president and then also king abdullah of jordan . he'll be having all of jordan. he'll be having all of these side discussions at the same time as also appearing on the international stage to talk about change. about climate change. >> yeah, it makes it makes >> yeah, so it makes it makes perfect he wants to perfect sense if he wants to speak to king about speak to king abdullah about what the hamas attack on the israelis and jewish people , he israelis and jewish people, he wants to talk to president kagame about the renegotiation of the treaty with rwanda. i it makes perfect sense. >> however , i suppose that's not >> however, i suppose that's not a it's not a surprise. and potentially it makes the argument for going to these summits not so much to talk about but to about climate change, but to talk everything about climate change, but to talii everything about climate change, but to talii any ything about climate change, but to talii any of1ing about climate change, but to talii any of these >> i think any of these conferences is it's what goes on on the side is much more important terms of political important in terms of political politics. what in how that works
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7 politics. what in how that works ? because once you've got the politics going, you can then deal with the other matters and you've got people there like, of course, the kings speech this morning, like like secretaries of state and shadow secretaries of state and shadow secretaries of state and shadow secretaries of state who can all do the stuff required for cop 28. but for the prime minister, for the leader of the opposition and for many other people , it's what many other people, it's what goes on around the edge that is going to be the most important thing. and we've certainly, i think, that think, both been in that situation. think, both been in that sitlyeah. think, both been in that sitlyeah . realistically, is there >> yeah. realistically, is there much more that the united kingdom do when it comes kingdom can do when it comes to climate halved climate? we've halved our emissions. of emissions. we've got all of these these new these targets, all of these new carbon budgets that the government all the time government passes all the time and ultimately have committed to net zero by 2050. i i mean, it's a game of catch up for the rest of the world. >> i think tom, you have to be realistic here. >> i don't think we can do much more. but we should just carry on tried to do. on doing what we tried to do. and , we want also
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and of course, we want to also help , if we can, with other help, if we can, with other countries . but of course, you countries. but of course, you know where where britain is at the it's been quite the moment. it's been quite difficult. you just to difficult. you just have to think greece . so difficult think of greece. so difficult for to work even with 1 for britain to work even with 1 or 2 countries. but we should be doing a lot more of that. >> well, that leads me to on one of the key pillars of climate of our climate policy, alexander , our climate policy, alexander, is to influence other nations, influence other nations to reduce their carbon emissions. and that is why it's not so just important for to us reduce our own carbon emissions. but the idea is that by going to summits like this , we can persuade the like this, we can persuade the likes of india, china and other nafions likes of india, china and other nations to reduce their emissions. australia or perhaps australia . do you think there's australia. do you think there's somewhere making a huge contribution? >> do you think rishi sunak do you think rishi sunak standing up as he will to tell the world that this is a, you know, a critical moment, has an influence on other nations? >> or do you think they think, oh, they're all hearing the same message that they should do
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something about reducing their c02 something about reducing their co2 emissions? >> so whether he says so or not isn't going to make any difference, should so difference, but he should say so . the second thing is that what is interesting about the british government is it's coming to terms with reality . dodi so it's terms with reality. dodi so it's one thing to reduce your emissions, but don't forget the punters. don't forget the public. don't be pushing up their energy prices every year and employs fishing particularly low income people. with your zeal for changing the weather. so you've got to get the balance right. and i thought listening to claire coutinho, the new energy secretary, she has brought a measure of common sense to this debate. and i think if britain can can contribute anything, it is common sense that, yes, it's fine to address the issue of climate change and do our best, particularly to invest in new technologies and adaptation to climate change. but we don't
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want to do so at the at the expense of wrecking the living standards of particularly low and middle income people. >> now , you both have been >> now, you both have been ministers of the crown. you both have served the crown. >> his different countries , same >> his different countries, same crown, different countries, same crown, different countries, same crown, and kicking off today at cop was a remarkable speech by the king. >> seems like the only head of state who's giving that sort of big speech at cop. is he waiting too much into the politics of climate change? >> either it's very, very delicate area , and we all know delicate area, and we all know that. and of course, her majesty the queen never, ever went anywhere near any of those those those issues that you're raising there. i i didn't hear it all this morning because i had to find a train to make sure could get me here today. so that that was a bit disappointing for me not to have heard it all. but having read back some of it, i think these he's really coming
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back to where he was as the prince of wales and laying back out to world wide audience that this is what i believe . in and this is what i believe. in and this is what i believe. in and this is what i believe. in and this is what i hope we can all take forward together. i saw him use that particular phrase in in the speech. i think that's a reasonable position for the king of the united kingdom , but quite of the united kingdom, but quite fearful for the commonwealth. sorry i was just going to say, and for the commonwealth it was quite some of we quite fearful some of what we heard quite fearful some of what we hea he talked about we're >> he talked about how we're carrying out a vast, frightening experiment point of changing every ecological condition all at once, at pace far at once, at a pace that far outstrips nature's ability to cope. outstrips nature's ability to cope . and he about how cope. and he talked about how we're imperilling our survivability with regards to climate change. >> this is what he said. too much. this is what he said over the years. >> that's the point, right? >> that's the point, right? >> is what he's said over the years. >> i think it's the king he >> i think it's the king and he is the of state. is the head of state. >> i think what we >> yeah. yes. i think what we would politely agree here is that he should be very careful.
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ihave that he should be very careful. i have to say , it's all very i have to say, it's all very well for a billionaire king to talk about the dangers of climate change and the ecology and so on. but it is important to think about ordinary people and about the cost of living impact of some of these policies. so i would rather the king struck more of a balance in his remarks and showed empathy for the people who are going to have to pay for higher energy costs . i know that line of costs. i know that line of climate change zealots is that you build a whole lot of wind farms . suddenly energy is going farms. suddenly energy is going to be much cheaper. are to use the phrase they love lived experience is that that is totally untrue to your truth because it's your truth. because it's not consistent energy . by it's not consistent energy. by one form of energy that is consistent is nuclear power. >> and i find it facile fascinating that whenever we talk to climate activists , we
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talk to climate activists, we had one on the program yesterday who seemed incredibly passionate about getting co2 down. but then you look at what these people say in the past and they've been ferociously campaigning against one of the main ways that we could get to net zero, i.e. nuclear power . nuclear power. >> so frustrating either you were part of a government that didn't build any nuclear power stations . stations. >> and indeed, the last 13 years we have not completed any new nuclear power stations. i was looking recently at the last nuclear power station to be fully in united fully built in the united kingdom approved margaret kingdom was approved by margaret . thatcher in 1988. this is a cross party failure, is it not? >> absolutely , 100. and i think >> absolutely, 100. and i think there's no doubt that there are areas that if we were given the chance again, which we may be, we don't know. but if we were , we don't know. but if we were, there are areas of policy that need to be properly dealt with by a labour government and that didn't happen. and i think after that, for the conservatives , that, for the conservatives, obviously the first five years was apparently with the liberal
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democrats as well. it never worked, you know, in terms of what you need to do as a government . and i certainly government. and i certainly think on on nuclear power tend to absolutely agree with you. and on housing, these are two areas where for a government should be able to get this right and deal with it as a cross—party area of policy for the uk, because otherwise we're never going to get any way forward on this. >> and just so the unfortunately we're always agreeing with each other, but just just so the viewers understand this as they're thinking how they love wind power and solar power, you know, it's a great saying in australia you're not going to have energy overnight . have solar energy overnight. it's a great line , a very good it's a great line, a very good wind power is intermittent, obviously, as well. so you have to have backup sustainable power . and if you're not going to use coal fired power stations or gas, you're going to have to use
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nuclear and it is expensive. but i think we need to invest much more heavily in nuclear power on that on that point, of course, nuclear power stations do take a while , do take quite a lot of while, do take quite a lot of years in this country in particular, actually build . particular, to actually build. >> interesting, you >> but it's interesting, you talk renewables not talk about renewables not generating the generating enough power. the power that we because the power that we need because the it's intermit chief executive. no, know the chief executive no, i know the chief executive of national actually of national gas has actually been speaking today or it's in the papers today anyway, saying that because this that we've because of this cold snap, we've maxed out our gas power. we could be facing power. so we could be facing quite a lot of difficulties. and he points to the fact that the renewables there because renewables aren't there because they're intermittent. >> we're about that. >> so we're worried about that. >> so we're worried about that. >> we're worried about climate change. but it's incredibly cold and we haven't got enough gas and we haven't got enough gas and we haven't got enough gas and we want to get rid of fossil fuels. >> i don't think any any views think that common sense just doesn't seem to come into play. >> i'm sure you're not suggesting that just because it's cold in the winter,
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it's getting cold in the winter, that it doesn't also get much hotter in the summer? i think what climate science it's interesting, mike, 28, is now dunng interesting, mike, 28, is now during this cold snap . during this cold snap. >> about now. >> i'm just talking about now. >> i'm just talking about now. >> true that's true. >> i'm just talking about now. >> funny, true that's true. >> i'm just talking about now. >> funny, though. at's true. >> i'm just talking about now. >> funny, though. it's true. >> i'm just talking about now. >> funny, though. i thinke. >> i'm just talking about now. >> funny, though. i think if it's funny, though. i think if really people really wanted really if people really wanted to get global agreements and encourage some countries to make sure that we get these global agreements and commit to what the agreed to , maybe they the uk has agreed to, maybe they should summit dubai , should hold the summit in dubai, but conditioning but without any air conditioning , then that might get them to sign it rather quicker. i i'm not sure that's a very good idea , by the way. >> would be okay at this time >> it would be okay at this time of year, but if you had it in the summer and it's 45 degrees, that might get them say that might get them to say i spent spent two weeks in spent i spent two weeks in glasgow we held cop 26 two glasgow when we held cop 26 two years ago, and it was freezing. >> and i just thought this is not going to encourage anyone to have any sense of urgency about a heating up planet. it was quite funny to see all the generators around the outside of these tents that were constructed as well to make sure that toasty that everyone was toasty and warm we get your view on the
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>> can we get your view on the ongoing saga that is the rwanda plan? of course. >> the prime minister met with president kigali . just just president kigali. just just earlier today. president kigali. just just earlier today . but but, emily, earlier today. but but, emily, what was it that the government was saying? >> they were saying that essentially rishi sunak has come out to say that it's essentially still goer and that in the still a goer and that in the long run, save the long run, it will save the taxpayer billions and billions of having this kind of of pounds, having this kind of deportation scheme in place , or deportation scheme in place, or they're working on a new treaty with in the hopes that with rwanda in the hopes that that to the that will be able to pass the legal tests that has so far blighted this project. alexander of course, australia has had its own problems with small boats and illegal migration. do you have a do you think our government is going to manage to get to grips with this? >> well, they need to get to gnps >> well, they need to get to grips with the legal problems which they obviously haven't done so far. so i couldn't comment on whether they're going to solve those legal problems. but they need to do it quickly. if they can make the rwanda
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scheme work, it will be very effective because it will destroy the business model of the organised crime gangs which are bringing people across on these dangerous journeys on small boats. we certainly found that in australia with nauru a much less desirable place than rwanda, i might say by having the processing done in nauru, then they stopped coming. so you know, if, if 40, 40,000, is your country able to do it and not well, let's say britain, britain is not able to do it because of the legal problems that they've had. and they i mean, to be to be honest, the government didn't anticipate that the legal problems well enough and they could have legislated, they didn't legislate the treaty needs to be redone with rwanda. well once all that's done , maybe well once all that's done, maybe it will work legally . it will work legally. >> i'm sure that last last week , >> i'm sure that last last week, i'm sure someone said that the they had an agreement on the
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treaty. well, that turns out not to be the case. and that's where i think the whole legal side side then starts to fall over for the whole issue . i, i don't for the whole issue. i, i don't see this happening. and if it does happen , the number of does happen, the number of people who you will end up taking to rwanda is going to be very small compared to the number of people who have been able to get into the uk for whatever reason. you know, i mean , it will be in hundreds , so mean, it will be in hundreds, so it's not going to save us, but it's not going to save us, but it's not. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> but by the way, i think by the way, i can speak from experience australia . experience here in australia. you don't need to send huge numbers of people there. 40,000 came last was it 40,000 came last year on small boats into the uk. you wouldn't need to send 40,000 people to rwanda . send 40,000 people to rwanda. yeah, you just need to start sending people to rwanda and then potential asylum seekers won't pay the people smugglers to come to the uk because
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they'll think we will end up in rwanda . rwanda. >> yeah, yeah, that's a good point. >> they'll rather stay in france. >> i mean, the choice is france or rwanda. >> that being said, the government always says, oh, no one to rwanda. it's one wants to go to rwanda. it's a deterrent. with a deterrent. and then with the other their they other half of their mouth, they say, rwanda the say, isn't rwanda lovely? the fastest growing country in africa. the facilities are wonderful . wonderful. >> all of the above mixed >> it'll all of the above mixed message. is a lovely country . message. it is a lovely country. >> you definitely say >> you definitely can't say that. i've to rwanda twice that. i've been to rwanda twice andifs that. i've been to rwanda twice and it's a beauty awful country. >> so therefore perhaps not the same deterrent effect that the australian system compared to france. >> right. would you rather live in rwanda or france. i mean that is on fire or not i suppose it depends. >> what region. >> what region. >> well i'm, i'm disappointed. >> well i'm, i'm disappointed. >> that's all we've got time for with you two. thank you very much for your time. >> sorry we agreed with each other on everything. >> that's wonderful. it's like a grand these grand coalition one of these german we often german governments that we often see that was labour mp see that was former labour mp and minister ivan kaplan. >> course, former >> and of course, former australian foreign minister alexander downer. you're watching to good
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watching and listening to good afternoon britain. we have plenty more you over plenty more to bring you over the hours, so with the next two hours, so stay with us, including cop 28. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers as sponsors of whether on . gb news alex deakin whether on. gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news the cold spell continues for many a sparkling day of winter. >> sunshine . but there are a few >> sunshine. but there are a few showers around , a mixture of showers around, a mixture of rain, sleet and snow . low rain, sleet and snow. low pressure is drifting away to the south, but the air is still coming down from the north. hence is still cold, not hence why it is still cold, not strong winds, but enough of a breeze to bring more showers into england. into eastern england. lincolnshire, east anglia and the south—east, where the far south—east, where the old flurry of snow possible , old flurry of snow is possible, as drizzly showers at as well as drizzly showers at times, mostly rain showers coming into the north coast of northern ireland. but also here, the odds, a little bit of snow is possible. there's still some fog as well, fog patches around as well, taking time to clear. but taking their time to clear. but for it will brighten up for many it will brighten up with sunshine .
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with some afternoon sunshine. but it is on the cold side. and very quickly this evening, those temperatures back down temperatures will drop back down below freezing . also likely to below freezing. also likely to see the mist and fog thickening up through the evening, particularly and particularly over central and eastern of england. a few eastern parts of england. a few more showers coming into south west scotland turn things west scotland could turn things icy through the night here. and those showers could also have some mixed in over the some snow mixed in over the hills. for many, though, a hills. for many, though, it's a dry clear night and dry night, a clear night and a cold to the weekend. cold start to the weekend. a pretty frost in a few pretty extensive frost in a few more showers coming into the west for wales, south—west england, they'll mostly of west for wales, south—west engl'but they'll mostly of west for wales, south—west engl'but again, mostly of west for wales, south—west engl'but again, for)stly of west for wales, south—west engl'but again, for south—west rain. but again, for south—west scotland, north—west england, a few of snow possible. few flakes of snow are possible. the could take a while to the fog could take a while to clear tomorrow over parts of the midlands. but again, many midlands. but again, for many it's a bright one. it's a dry and a bright one. tomorrow, some sunny tomorrow, with some sunny spells. but it is going to stay cold. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers or sponsors of weather on .
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gb news good afternoon, britain. >> it's 1:00 good afternoon, britain. >> it's1:00 on friday, the 1st of december. >> sunak eco spending spree. the prime minister is set to confirm £1.6 billion in uk funding for climate projects abroad. that's when he speaks in the next half an hour. i hope it's been delayed by an hour already . an hour. i hope it's been delayed by an hour already. is this a good use of taxpayer money? >> rwanda merry go round. could the rwanda migrant deportation
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scheme give the taxpayer billions of pounds in the long run? that's what the government is claiming today. but will those flights ever take off? and ceasefire crumbles? >> rockets have been seen hurtling through the skies of gaza, fired by both the hamas terror group and the israel defence forces with war. back on what are the consequences for britain . britain. now >> emily, she soon to be. it was meant to be just before we went to air. it was meant to be before midday that rishi sunak spoke at cop26 it then it got delayed by half an hour, then half an hour more later. and now we're waiting for another half an hour. so 130 is now when we're expecting rishi sunak to take this press conference. >> but as we heard from christopher hope, he has been rather busy. >> indeed, he's been a busy bee
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meeting world leaders, not just the president of rwanda, paul kagame , but also king abdullah, kagame, but also king abdullah, the second of jordan. and indeed his highness amir sheikh tamim bin hamad al thani of qatar. >> so he's been very busy indeed. and i understand. and that in his conversations with his majesty king abdullah , the his majesty king abdullah, the second of jordan, he was very much discussing the ongoing conflict in the middle east, talking about international humanitarian assistance . he's humanitarian assistance. he's talking about israel and its actions in gaza. so there you go i >> -- >> and i m >> and i think that this actually does undermine a narrative that has been promoted in some corners that, oh, what's the point of these world leaders going to dubai , flying to dubai going to dubai, flying to dubai for this big climate summit? because to some extent, it's not a climate summit. it's a global summit of world leaders where i don't think necessarily the climate is on the top of rishi sunak's agenda when he's meeting with president kagame of rwanda.
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i don't think it's at the top of his agenda when he's talking to the of jordan. the king of jordan. >> don't think going >> you don't think he's going to the he the country that he wants a deportation scheme with? and talking talking about co2 emissions? >> no, somehow i cynical, tom. >> no, somehow i cynical, tom. >> anyway, speaking at the opening ceremony this morning, king charles did warn we aren't on track to meet our climate goals . but on track to meet our climate goals. but many are accusing the monarch of hypocrisy as he jetted off to dubai to scold for us our carbon intensive lifestyles . some might argue, lifestyles. some might argue, and i've seen this in the inbox, that how else was he going to get there ? get there? >> have could have >> could have he could have swum. could swum, swum. he could have swum, perhaps . no, swum. he could have swum, perhaps. no, i'm not sure. how did how did people used to get about mean, there's orient about i mean, there's the orient express . does that still run? express. does that still run? that would be a wonderful well, presumably a run presumably that would be a run on coal. that's true. that's true that a true. but that would be a majestic way. there could be a royal carriage. could royal carriage. it could be a prince have spent royal carriage. it could be a p|month have spent royal carriage. it could be a p|month and have spent royal carriage. it could be a p|month and a have spent royal carriage. it could be a p|month and a half have spent royal carriage. it could be a p|month and a half getting pent a month and a half getting getting to the middle east. i mean, that would have been a statement after statement greta thunberg after all, sailed across atlantic. all, sailed across the atlantic. she did. but then the three
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people sailed that boat had people who sailed that boat had to and it to make to fly to and from it to make sure that they could get that boat sailed just for her pr stunt. >> and we wonder why people think the climate summits are all about virtue signalling. but anyway, perhaps not. with us now is gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. cameron we know that the king is passionate when it comes to the environment and climate change, he said. quite a lot in that speech. stark warning us was it bordering on the political? >> well, it's certainly a passion of king charles. it's been over half a century now. he's been singing, singing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to talking to the world about climate urgency. that time is running out. et cetera. et cetera. and of course , king cetera. and of course, king charles is this globe has this global presence where people around the world do tend to take him seriously . of course, he is him seriously. of course, he is lucky in the sense that he has
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queen elizabeth ii and his mothers in influence, kind of in him, i suppose . on the one hand, him, i suppose. on the one hand, it is a passion of his and perhaps he could influence some political people around the world when it comes to changing climate policy. but of course, the king has to be above politics, doesn't he? he cannot be party political. he cannot shape policy. but an interesting theme, which he has touched on before , is this sense of the before, is this sense of the pubuc before, is this sense of the public and private sectors working together. and he urged in his speech that private finance really needs to work in tandem with governments around the to world really make a difference. now one of the criticisms of king charles when it comes to climate change and talking about climate change is perhaps he's slightly too pessimistic and too urgent when it comes to talking about these kind of issues, which does sometimes switch people off and make them not really want to make them not really want to make any kind of difference. in contrast to his son, the prince
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of wales, with his earthshot prize, finding prize, for example, finding solutions to repair our planet's within decade with the prince within a decade with the prince of wales, prince william. it's all about being optimistic and finding solutions. finding genuine solutions. charles yes, i was going to ask you about this because of course you've travelled and alongside the prince of wales when he went off to boston on that technology , royal city, i suppose, where mit and harvard and great minds come together. >> and he's trying to find these new technological solutions. of course, it was only last week that earlier this week that we had the first what was it, sustainable aviation fuel flight. yes. so not banning planes, but finding a better way to fuel them. is that a contrast , therefore, in your view, between the prince of wales and the king, the king saying, oh, we need to stop doing all of these things, and the prince saying, actually, we can still live wonderful technological, live a wonderful technological, forward looking life , but forward looking life, but through technological innovation i >> -- >> yeah, i exam ham >> yeah, i think it's quite obvious contrast, but i think
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they both share the same passion and that is to try and create a better environmentally friendly world. i mean, you talk about sustainable aviation fuel. they're tom it was actually king charles on his trip to kenya that insisted that the voyager contained at least some sustainable aircraft fuel when he was when it was transporting the king queen, the journalists and all the royal household to kenya. so he got there in front of that transatlantic flight last week . but of course, with last week. but of course, with the royal family, it wasn't king charles that started talking about climate change and sustainability. first it was prince duke of edinburgh, prince philip duke of edinburgh, when kind helped to set up when he kind of helped to set up wwf . so it does have some wwf. so it does have some history with that family. but of course , there is a big course, there is a big difference between the way king charles and prince william speaks about climate change, but it's rishi sunak really , isn't it's rishi sunak really, isn't it? he's the guy who can change policy in the united kingdom . policy in the united kingdom. but i think a big question is actually , is king charles going actually, is king charles going to have more influence on the world or is rishi sunak,
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world stage or is rishi sunak, who's a bigger figure ? who's a bigger figure? >> that's very interesting . and >> that's very interesting. and of course, cameron , this may of course, cameron, this may have been a bit of a an escape for our monarch, for king charles, because, of course , charles, because, of course, there have been this bombshell book that's been published this week with all of these allegations. it must be quite nice for king charles to talk about passionate about something he's passionate about something he's passionate about from away from about away from away from britain, ? britain, perhaps? >> yeah, i think it's certainly his is it's been a cloud hanging over buckingham palace for the last few days. a royal source told me last night that are told me last night that they are considering all options when it comes to how to respond to those two names. the king and the princess of wales being named in the dutch version of omid scobie's book, end game . and scobie's book, end game. and allegedly they were having conversations about the colour of harry and meghan's unborn son's skin. but of course, buckingham palace. kensington palace, as of yet have not commented on that . there's three commented on that. there's three opfions commented on that. there's three options really, i think, for the palace is either they stay silent as they have done with
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all the scandals of the last few years when it comes harry and years when it comes to harry and meghan release meghan antics or they release some kind of statement like the late queen did after the oprah interview where she released that statement saying that now famous statement saying recollections may vary or they take legal action. but when i put it to buckingham palace last night, well, what kind of action are you going to be taking and against? is it? omid scobie, against? who is it? omid scobie, the is the publisher? against? who is it? omid scobie, the publisher the publisher? against? who is it? omid scobie, the publisher of1e publisher? against? who is it? omid scobie, the publisher of the ublisher? against? who is it? omid scobie, the publisher of the dutch er? the publisher of the dutch edition or is it indeed a well known television personality in the uk who broke it first in the united kingdom or harry and meghan themselves ? and that meghan themselves? and that question remains unanswered this afternoon . afternoon. >> that would be a bombshell, wouldn't it? were were kensington palace or indeed buckingham palace to start suing harry and meghan , inc? my harry and meghan, inc? my goodness. not an easy decision to make. >> no, i would imagine they would probably want to steer away from doing yes, perhaps . i away from doing yes, perhaps. i suspect so. perhaps silence is the right way to go. but thank you very much indeed. cameron walker, gb news, royal
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correspondent . now, mark white correspondent. now, mark white was reporting earlier about the end of the temporary ceasefire between israel and hamas. we have some live shots here from the israel—gaza border as fighting resumes after that seven day ceasefire , short lived seven day ceasefire, short lived ceasefire between israel and hamas has expired. yes both sides are, of course, blaming each other for the violence, restarting . restarting. >> hamas is saying that there was not enough aid getting into gaza. meanwhile while the israelis say that hamas broke their side of the bargain when it came to releasing women and children, and i believe they israel has also said that they had recommenced with some bombardment to we've as well as not releasing the hostages . not releasing the hostages. >> they had agreed to . >> they had agreed to. >> they had agreed to. >> and not just those rockets that have been firing now in both directions , but also both directions, but also a terror attack on the streets of jerusalem by a bus stop where
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three individuals, three israelis, including a pregnant woman, were shot down by hamas terrorists. hamas has claimed responsibility for this attack that took place just yesterday. and the hamas run health ministry in gaza has said that since the truce ended, since that seven day truce ended, more than 60 palestinians have been killed . killed. >> we can't verify those numbers. that is what hamas is saying . saying. >> well, let's turn now to gb news homeland security editor mark white, who joins us for more . and mark, where does it go more. and mark, where does it go from here? what are the next steps ? steps? >> yes, well, it's possible that we could get another pause there are talks that are underway, being brokered by both qatar and by egypt being brokered by both qatar and by egypt or it's possible things could escalate as we speak. the air raid sirens are sounding in northern israel with attacks over the border from southern lebanon . so hezbollah attacks lebanon. so hezbollah attacks are also now beginning in the
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north of israel and added worry for the israeli military going forward . half an hour ago, forward. half an hour ago, community cities in southern israel were targeted again, including stuart. it was sderot. this morning, including stuart. it was sderot. this morning , just after 530 this morning, just after 530 this morning, where the rocket attacks from palestine and islamic jihad effectively they're intertwined with hamas , they're intertwined with hamas, but they sent or claimed responsibility for sending rockets over very early this morning. this is what it sounded like just after 530, that at dawn . dawn. >> is that ziva . adam >> is that ziva. adam >> is that ziva. adam >> ziva. adam. ziva adam. >> ziva. adam. ziva adam. >> ziva. adam. ziva adam. >> ziva. adult this sense of those alerts still send shivers down. >> i remember being in sderot when those alerts were activated
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and you have less than 10s to get into the shelters there was shortly after those rockets were launched into southern israel that the israeli military responded, targeting a number of locations across the gaza strip and throughout the day, those israeli military strikes have continued around khan younis every 15 minutes or so. now, according to those in that area, there are strikes now, israel has come up with a grid system . has come up with a grid system. it's been dropping leaflets down to the palestine and civilians in the gaza strip, highlighting a grid structure that they want civilians to head to at any given time. now, it strikes me that this has got a lot of scope for being misunderstood and could be quite complicated to your average civilian reading this . but anyway, there is
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this. but anyway, there is a grid system that israel wants to try now rather than just that moving hundreds of thousands of people en masse from the north to the south. they are going to declare a certain grid off limits at any one time and then indulge in a more localised ized sort of effort to go after hamas targets in a particular grid. let's see if that goes any way to trying to reassure israel's allies like the united states , allies like the united states, who have been urging caution with israel in the resumption of any hostilities to try to avoid the very significant civilian casualties that we saw before for this humanitarian pause. but, of course , israel argues but, of course, israel argues and continue to argue that it's very difficult to avoid civilian casualties, even though they try, because hamas cynically
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uses. civilians and civilian areas to launch their rockets from into hide themselves and their terrorist infrastructure within those locations . within those locations. >> thank you very much . indeed. >> thank you very much. indeed. mark white, our home and security editor, bringing us the very latest from the war in gaza. so shall we speak to con coughlin, who is the defence and foreign affairs editor at the telegraph. he joins us now. thank you very much for your time, con, as we heard from mark, the war is very much back on. israel accusing hamas , the on. israel accusing hamas, the terror group of not abiding by the truce , by the ceasefire. the truce, by the ceasefire. does this now make it harder for another ceasefire or another temporary humanitarian pause , temporary humanitarian pause, whatever you want to call it, to be reneging , associated ? be reneging, associated? >> well, it certainly looks very difficult at this this very moment with both sides accusing the other of essentially breaking the ceasefire terms . breaking the ceasefire terms. >> the hamas is basically
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accusing israel of not providing enough aid, as mark said . and enough aid, as mark said. and israel is saying that they've reneged on their promise to release all the israeli captives, all the israeli female captives, all the israeli female captives . captives. >> so when trust is broken, it makes it very difficult to resume the negotiations. >> having said that, there are lots of other players involved in this, the us in particular, the biden administration has made it very clear they want to limit the scope of israel's military activities. they don't want to see the kind of heavy palestinian civilian casualties that were reported during the first phase of the israeli offensive. so there will be pressure on the israelis to hold back their there are countries like qatar that have been deeply involved in the negotiations with hamas that will also be looking to try and calm things down. so there is potential . but down. so there is potential. but as i say, the key to any negotiate nation like this is
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trust . and when trust is broken, trust. and when trust is broken, when neither side trusts the other to deliver on their commitments s then it becomes very , very difficult. very, very difficult. >> now. cohen we've just been looking at some of these pictures of billowing smoke over southern israel. i don't know if we can get these live pictures back. any time soon. they're coming just about now. but it's interesting that this hostility resumed so quickly that it was sort of frozen in time and bam, it is back and we can see the smoke there rising over the israel gaza border here. it's fascinating that the prime minister out in on the other side of the arabian peninsula , side of the arabian peninsula, in qatar, in in dubai , has been in qatar, in in dubai, has been meeting with the sheikh of qatar this afternoon , soon and has this afternoon, soon and has been thanking qatar for their role in negotiation . how much role in negotiation. how much pressure can britain bring upon these parties with the prime minister meeting some of the key players this afternoon? what can
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britain do to advance any negotiations ? negotiations? >> well, i think i think it if britain is shown its support for qatar and the whole process of middle associations, that's a help of course, britain still remains a very close ally of the us and i think the us is really the important western player in this. of course, america has a military base in qatar , so they military base in qatar, so they know the qataris very well. so i think , you know, britain can think, you know, britain can bnng think, you know, britain can bring influence to bear on this deepening crisis . but i would deepening crisis. but i would also say you talked about the timing of this. also say you talked about the timing of this . even though timing of this. even though we've had a ceasefire both hamas and israel have made it very, very clear that from their point of view, this war is not over. both hamas and israel want to carry on fighting . hamas is carry on fighting. hamas is committed to the destruction of israel . israel committed to the destruction of israel. israel is committed to
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the destruction of hamas. so, you know, it's almost like two boxers having a having a break in a very lengthy bout. >> so , khan, how do you see this >> so, khan, how do you see this 7 >> so, khan, how do you see this ? i mean, it's very difficult for you to say, but how do you see this playing out? because we're looking at the bloodshed , we're looking at the bloodshed, obviously, on sides of this obviously, on both sides of this conflict. you've got the ministry in hamas, the ministry of health, health in gaza run by hamas, saying that 60 palestina orphans have died since this most recent truce ended . so the most recent truce ended. so the death toll continues to rise and rise is how do you see this playing out? well i mean, first of all, you know, hamas broke the ceasefire first. >> it seems mean from the reports that you and mark have just just been discussing. it looks like hamas broke the ceasefire first. israel is committed to defending its people against attacks from hamas . so as long as hamas hamas. so as long as hamas retains the ability to attack
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israel and carries out attacks against israel, israel is going to be fully committed to destroying the very least hamas's military infrastructure . hamas's military infrastructure. so that's where we are. i think the only the only unknown factor here is whether the biden administration , this is where administration, this is where the real pressure for a ceasefire is coming from . if the ceasefire is coming from. if the biden administration wakes up and says, you know, we've had enough , you know, this has got enough, you know, this has got to stop or that that would be a game changer. but for the moment, see i see more, more moment, i see i see more, more fighting for the for the foreseeable future. >> absolutely . fascinating >> absolutely. fascinating situation. con coffin, thank you so much forjoining us and talking through those enormous issues . and just some words from issues. and just some words from downing street that we've had this afternoon about that meeting between rishi sunak and the sheikh of qatar, who, of course, convened those original negotiations . we're told by negotiations. we're told by downing street that rishi sunak reiterated, reiterated to qatar
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that hamas has demonstrated it could not be a partner for peace and could have no future in gaza. so it seems that the prime minister today has spoken to those qatari authorities and said, we know you're harbouring the hamas leadership. we know you're facilitating these negotiations. but these guys cannot be a partner for peace . cannot be a partner for peace. >> very interesting indeed. we'll bring you anything else that we receive from number 10 that we receive from number 10 that we receive from number 10 that we hear that we briefed that we hear that we are briefed . worth noting that, . but also worth noting that, you know, we also heard from mark white, that israeli government spokesperson no two ways absolutely ways about it. absolutely adamant that hamas will take the most mighty of the mother of all thumpings very, very committed. interesting what cohen said there about joe biden being the only one to be able to step in when it comes to this, if he can step at all. >> well, we've got much more to come up of course, vicious . it's come up of course, vicious. it's less than ten minutes now until rishi sunak finally makes his big speech in in dubai at cop
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28. fingers crossed, we'll bring you that live. we've got all the build up with our panel.
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sunday mornings from 930 on news i >> -- >> good afternoon, britain . now >> good afternoon, britain. now it is around five minutes until the prime minister is expected to finally get on his feet and
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deliver that speech, that press conference from cop 28. but what might it be that he's saying? delighted to be joined now by the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner and the daily telegraph columnist madeline grant and madeline , let's start grant and madeline, let's start with you, because will the prime minister be speaking in four minutes? i think it is now , if minutes? i think it is now, if he goes on stage for a domestic audience, is this going to be an election pitch or is he actually speaking to all the world leaders out there ? leaders out there? >> i think more the latter, because not sure how much because i'm not sure how much your average voter in the uk is really following the develops of cop doesn't feel like cop 28. it doesn't feel like there's been the level of there's been the same level of hype previous hype obviously in previous years. when we hosted hype obviously in previous yea too when we hosted hype obviously in previous yea too long when we hosted hype obviously in previous yea too long agoren we hosted hype obviously in previous yea too long ago im we hosted hype obviously in previous yea too long ago in glasgow,ed not too long ago in glasgow, there hasn't been a great deal of press coverage around it. i think it's more aimed at the global audience , but actually global audience, but actually i think makes because think that makes sense because for been talking for too long we've been talking about net zero. so only in a kind of internal domestic way, as if that by making quite small
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changes at a domestic level, we can enact great global change and actually we need to take a much more global view of this. and you know, projects in developing countries you and you know, projects in deve getng countries you and you know, projects in deve get way)untries you and you know, projects in deve get way more as you and you know, projects in deve get way more bang you and you know, projects in deve get way more bang foryou and you know, projects in deve get way more bang for your may get way more bang for your buck everyone to may get way more bang for your buc rid everyone to may get way more bang for your buc rid of everyone to may get way more bang for your buc rid of their everyone to may get way more bang for your buc rid of their e�*byyone to 2030. >> yes . amy, has he made it >> yes. amy, has he made it quite difficult for himself, actually, the actually, because towards the domestic audience he's talked about having a more pragmatic approach and he said he's not in hock to ideological zealots, presumably he means the likes of greta thunberg and now has to greta thunberg and now he has to go to an international summit. all about climate change, all about britain leading the world on climate change. when actually domestically, of those domestically, some of those policies are starting to creep back. >> i can't believe he's got the gall to stand up and even speak at actually, think at this. actually, i think he should shied like should have shied away like he did year. should have shied away like he did and year. should have shied away like he did and harsh . >> and harsh. >> and harsh. >> he can't exactly stand up and say hello. >> i've tried to use green policies a wedge issue to policies as a wedge issue to divide my nation win votes . divide my nation and win votes. so i think it's going to be a tncky so i think it's going to be a tricky one. i think he'll say all the right things, but the truth is he's undone a lot of manifesto pledges now , what we
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manifesto pledges now, what we voted when boris johnson got voted for when boris johnson got his was to have a green his majority was to have a green revolution. green industrial revolution. green industrial revolution was part of the manifesto that was voted in and rishi sunak with no mandate has undone a lot of that. reversing petrol cars, reversing the diesel , petrol cars, reversing the diesel, becoming winding back to be fair though, we've had a lot of green policies implemented that weren't necessarily manifestos. >> you want to talk about lack of a mandate. let's talk about the 2050 net zero commitment which theresa may just wafted through parliament in the dying days of her leadership. there was no vote. there was scarcely a debate. there was zero scrutiny of it. no planning, no costing. think it's costing. i don't think it's right expect future right to expect future governments to be beholden to something for such something that was done for such nakedly political reasons and that they had no part in it. the pubuc that they had no part in it. the public have consistently shown that do support green that they do support green policies and it's always the majority who have that quite high up . high up. >> i would disagree. it always comes three four in the list of priorities. i would disagree as a no.
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>> no, no. >> no, no. >> well, i that is true in the abstract. people like green policies . however, when you policies. however, when you start drill down start to drill it down to specific policies that actually cost them money, of that cost them money, a lot of that goodwill disappears. people like the it in theory because the idea of it in theory because they that is a they appreciate that this is a very important however, very important issue. however, it's always someone else paying for it in these surveys. >> if was properly handled, >> if it was properly handled, it the it wouldn't be costly to the public. and think the cost of public. and i think the cost of how you how would how would you how would you how would said time and would you do that said time and time the estimations time again, by the estimations and that not and the modelling that not committing net zero, which and the modelling that not com|neting net zero, which and the modelling that not com|net zero net zero, which and the modelling that not com|net zero is|et zero, which and the modelling that not com|net zero is nowzro, which and the modelling that not com|net zero is now enshrined also net zero is now enshrined in enshrined law. in law, it's enshrined in law. so yet again rishi so it would be yet again rishi sunak breaking law, which is sunak breaking the law, which is what politicians do. >> that's completely insane. >> he hasn't rowed back on the 2050 targets. he's changed. >> we're not going to get there. >> we're not going to get there. >> we're not going to hit it. that's the point. >> how do you know that? >> how do you know that? >> because amendments that >> because the amendments that he's it clear that he's made has made it clear that it's priority . so once it's not a priority. so once again, rowing back. again, it'd be rowing back. >> we will not let maddie come in there. >> but, you know, if we not >> but, you know, if we may not even a conservative even have a conservative government next year, do you have boy have so little faith in your boy keir come in, just
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keir starmer to come in, just magically make all these things very and easy when no one very cheap and easy when no one else the has managed to else in the world has managed to do it? >> i've been really impressed with keir starmer's approach to green of green energy. actually, one of the the british the best things was the british green what's that idea? green energy. what's that idea? >> that's be >> well, that's going to be a money pit, amy. >> i don't know you're so >> i don't know why you're so pessimistic money all pessimistic about this money all the we're just the time, because we're just kicking the very expensive ball down road, not little bit down the road, not a little bit trust idea to borrow £28 trust in this idea to borrow £28 billion because you might well be right that in 15, 20 years that saves money in the long run i >> -- >> why -_ >> why can 5mm l>> why can we apply >> why can we apply that logic to spending money on green projects ? but we can't apply projects? but we can't apply that tax cuts, which that logic to tax cuts, which could boost growth in the long run and pay for them. why >> why does the office for budget responsibility say yes to the no to the latter? the former and no to the latter? i should yes to everyone. >> i wouldn't call it trust and call it keynesian, fact. and call it keynesian, in fact. and i think we should spending i think we should be spending a lot to get a lot more lot more money to get a lot more money so on the point of >> okay. so on the point of money climate projects money going on, climate projects abroad now, we've had lots of announcements over the years
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about our government spending, taxpayer money to help other nafions taxpayer money to help other nations deal with climate change in one way or another. for some of these schemes, they expect some return when it some kind of return when it comes others, comes to investment. for others, it's to help countries with mitigation and other types of projects. do you think the great british public sees benefit british public sees the benefit of billions pounds to of sending billions of pounds to countries as to help with environmental ? environmental? >> well, this is quite an unfashionable view, but i actually if money is well actually if that money is well spent abroad, think that would spent abroad, i think that would be very good use of our money be a very good use of our money in terms overall green agenda in terms of overall green agenda because emissions often because emissions are often seen purely at a national level when obviously there is no kind of special privilege given to emissions, whether they come from or from india or from from china or from india or from britain, know, it's all britain, you know, it's all emissions. at emissions. we always come at this a national way. and this in a national way. and actually if you spend money, for example, are example, countries that are still coal, it's much still burning coal, it's much cheaper have already cheaper as we have already discovered, switch from coal discovered, to switch from coal to, say, shale or greener ways of doing that. and it's been responsible for a massive in emissions in america. so actually if you get people off
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coal, that's quite a comparatively cheap thing that makes a massive difference at the global level. so i'm kind of less about the less bothered about where the money spent . money is spent. >> think we have a >> i think equally we have a responsibility because we're disproportionately it disproportionately emitting it the most the most contributor to climate change, which is negatively impacting the poorest nafions negatively impacting the poorest nations more than it is here. so what we've put out in the last 100 years is driving the extreme weather in countries that had nothing to do with those emissions and they're suffering the biggest consequences . surely the biggest consequences. surely it's our responsibility to face that. >> i wonder these sort of hundreds of millions of pounds that going to what are that are going to go to what are known as loss and funds. known as loss and damage funds. so all the so flood defences and all the rest does that not sort rest of it, does that not sort of pop the bubble of those who say, look at this map, of pop the bubble of those who say, look at this map , this is say, look at this map, this is britain in 2100 and all of norfolk is underwater. i mean, it almost sort of shows that that's not real at all, because when we see rising sea levels, we respond to it. the netherlands should be 60% underwater by now, but they
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build dykes and they pump out water and they build the defences. we are going to build these defences all around the world. going to be the world. is it going to be the disaster movie scenario that some people have painted of new york underwater or in reality? are we going to respond to a changing climate? >> well, this is a very good point and this is something the climate change committee spoke about, the move towards mitigation rather than prevention necessarily. >> that seems to me much >> well, that seems to me much more and rooted in more rational and rooted in reality . when i was at school, reality. when i was at school, we were all shown the videos of an inconvenient truth by al gore, and there's that famous scene that's now been completely debunked stands on a debunked where he stands on a platform and points that this ever graph the map ever reaching graph and the map and rest it. i and all the rest of it. and i went school birmingham and went to school in birmingham and our we might went to school in birmingham and omthe we might went to school in birmingham and omthe capital we might went to school in birmingham and omthe capital city we might went to school in birmingham and omthe capital city of we might went to school in birmingham and omthe capital city of britainight be the capital city of britain because london will submerged because london will be submerged . it was quite . and, you know, it was quite fatalistic. and as mentioned fatalistic. and as you mentioned , it doesn't really take into account the way that human ingentu account the way that human ingenuity get around this. ingenuity can get around this. and actually, when we're talking about my point about this is sort of my point about this is sort of my point about a global level about thinking on a global level is the money best spent forcing
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people at great pain to get rid of, to heat pumps, for of, to use heat pumps, for example, britain, that example, in britain, or if that money diverted help money were diverted to help countries the effects money were diverted to help co extreme the effects money were diverted to help co extreme weather,the effects money were diverted to help co extreme weather, rather ects money were diverted to help co extreme weather, rather than of extreme weather, rather than basically seeking to undo the, you know, industrialisation in the greta thunberg way . the greta thunberg way. >> let's just remind our viewers that we are, in fact, waiting for prime minister to speak for the prime minister to speak in dubai, to take to the for stand his body, hasn't he? and speech he doing was due speech he was doing he was due to speak at 1145 and it was going to kick off our show. he's kept us waiting for quite a while now. >> we were told in no >> we were we were told in no uncertain terms by number 10. it will be absolutely 130 that he speaks. but my goodness , to be speaks. but my goodness, to be fair, to be fair, he has de—man. he has been doing busy things. he's king of he's met with the king of jordan. the sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. the sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. and the sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. and he the sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. and he has the sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. and he has met sheikh he's met with the king of jorqatar. and he has met with kh of qatar. and he has met with the president of rwanda as well. so amy, potentially he's not. they're just talking about climate change. >> and in recently right now, with all of these with all of these meetings, he gets around very quickly, doesn't he? because obviously , when you
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because obviously, when you use a private jets, a helicopter and private jets, you can get a lot done . you can get a lot done. >> why we just send him on you can get a lot done. >.megabus we just send him on you can get a lot done. >.megabus wwill;t send him on you can get a lot done. >.megabus wwill;t s> yeah . hydrogen power and megabus. >> but i think this is an interesting point. sometimes we think of cop and it's they're all flying there for the climate conference. but all these world leaders are there. all leaders are there. they're all having meetings and they're having side meetings and they're not talking about co2 . not all talking about co2. >> they're talking about made it make talking make sense. they're talking about treaties . is about sort of treaties. is there, isn't it? yeah. so he's talking he's talking about israel . israel. >> he's talking about potentially the new treaty we're having with rwanda. these are beneficial meetings to have. i would suggest i'd argue that they're counterproductive meetings shortly. >> actually, maddie , what >> actually, maddie, what a waste of time. do you think he's a waste of time? >> rishi sunak is keeping us waiting because ultimately there are more important issues. >> well , now, look, if i could >> well, now, look, if i could just come back on something that amy said. >> i mean, to amy, you >> i mean, listening to amy, you would for thinking would be forgiven for thinking that, was some that, you know, rishi was some kind are kind of texas oil baron. we are still one of the countries
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around that done around the world that has done most ourselves most to divest ourselves of fossil fuels. we've just licensed loads of new oil licenses. >> he is an oil baron because the technology isn't yet ready. >> and it's inevitable that we will still need to use that for a while. so we might as well get it ourselves rather than importing it, which takes even more emissions around the world. >> e“- eu.- >> when we look like, do you want get it from norway or want to get it from norway or qatar do want get it qatar or do you want to get it from britain? >> it's a global market, so it's irrelevant anyway. when irrelevant anyway. but if when we look we respond to emergencies, look what we saw what we did with covid. we saw it emergency. it for the emergency. >> our economy >> we destroyed our economy forever, instantly. >> what we could do the same >> but what we could do the same in children's lives, in their educational prospects, i could never see why we cannot see this as emergency and respond as an emergency and respond accordingly as an emergency and respond acc okay, ly as an emergency and respond acc okay, so if we did treat this >> okay, so if we did treat this as an emergency in the pure meaning of the word emergency, i.e. you need to act immediately on all fronts , it's a war. then on all fronts, it's a war. then we would have to all give up our heating. presumably in the current condition, all gas . current condition, all gas. we've got our gas system at max
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capacity at the moment because of the cold snap. so we might be without heating in some of our homes the next couple of homes in the next couple of days. no more flights, no more. we'd to have no more we'd have to have no more flights, holidays. flights, no more holidays. >> know that leather >> amy, you know that leather case, no more anything that's made and gas. made from oil and gas. >> your point that it's >> but amy, your point that it's like might be quite instructive. >> i mean, go back to the >> i mean, if we go back to the last where we had blackouts, last war where we had blackouts, we had rationing, we i mean, is that sort of the level that we should how did we respond after the war? >> we spent our way back to prosperity . we can invest in prosperity. we can invest in green and everything will be fine. >> and then climate lost the election. people were fed up with rationing. >> suppose when britain >> i suppose when britain controlled around a quarter of the earth international markets took spending decisions by the british government rather more seriously than they do today . is seriously than they do today. is not the sad truth of things that, as we discovered last september when the british government says we're going to spend, spend , spend and doesn't spend, spend, spend and doesn't necessarily convince global markets that it's got a plan in
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terms of how to fund that . and i terms of how to fund that. and i refer to not just spending , but refer to not just spending, but of course, reducing revenues as well. in the eyes of markets, you get financial turmoil. >> well, those were unfunded tax cuts. >> what's the difference between unfunded tax cuts and extra spending? >> unfunded tax cut and an investment in a public service where you can show that you're going to get a much more back than in. than you put in. >> but you couldn't you argue that going to also that you're going to also more. >> i think main problem >> i think the main problem there checked with there was it wasn't checked with the for office budget responsibility. spooked responsibility. so it spooked the market. responsibility. so it spooked the right. t. responsibility. so it spooked the right. but there was no >> right. but there was no forecast to a company. there was no if if the obr had. no if the if the obr had. >> oh, i believe we actually have sunak now, have rishi sunak at last. now, speaking . let's cross to dubai. speaking. let's cross to dubai. >> good evening. i'm here at cop 28 with two clear messages . 28 with two clear messages. >> first, the world needs to do more climate change. more to tackle climate change. we've made real progress, including at the glasgow summit. but the climate science and mounting evidence of climate related disasters show that we're moving quickly or we're not moving quickly or effectively so i'm effectively enough. so i'm calling on major emitters to dramatically accelerate delivery
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on what they've already promised everyone can do more and let's be very clear the uk is leading the charge. we're absolutely committed to our net zero targets as we've already decarbonised faster than any other major economy . our other major economy. our emissions are down 48% since 1990, compared to limited cuts from others and a 300% increase from others and a 300% increase from china . we're also one of from china. we're also one of the largest climate donors because we want to help those suffering. the impacts of climate change. my pledge from september of £1.6 billion for the green climate fund was the uk's biggest single climate change commitment, and we're going further announcing £1.6 billion today for renewable energy , green innovation and energy, green innovation and forests , delivering on the forests, delivering on the historic glasgow deal to end deforestation because we can't tackle climate change without nature. we're also leveraging the genius of the city of london
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to deliver billions more in private finance. again the uk is leading by example and we need others to step up because my second message is this as i said in september, we won't tackle climate change unless we take people with us. climate politics is close to breaking point. the british people care about the environment. they know that the costs of inaction are intolerable, but they also know that we have choices about how we act. so yes, we'll meet our targets, but we'll do it in a more pragmatic way, which doesn't burden working people. we've scrapped plans on heat pumps and energy efficiency , pumps and energy efficiency, which would have cost families thousands of pounds. will help people to improve energy efficiency and cut bills . but we efficiency and cut bills. but we won't force them to . we'll won't force them to. we'll support nature across the uk . support nature across the uk. just this week i announced a huge new effort with 34 landscape recovery projects, a new national park and more , and
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new national park and more, and will harness the opportunities of technology and green industry to deliver net zero in a way that benefits the british people and today i can share more proof on the progress that we're making . i'm on the progress that we're making. i'm pleased to on the progress that we're making . i'm pleased to announce making. i'm pleased to announce a new deal between mad star and dada , which includes dada, which includes a commitment to jointly invest up to £11 billion into the uk's new wind farm at dogger bank, which will be the biggest in the world. this is a huge boost for uk renewables, creating more jobs, helping to power 3 million homes and increasing our energy security . and by the way, this security. and by the way, this just comes days after we announced £30 billion of investment at our global investment at our global investment summit and £21 billion of investment from south korea. we've quite frankly, never seen a week like it in dubai today. i've also had conversations with a range of leaders, including israel , leaders, including israel, qatar, egypt and jordan, about
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the situation in in israel and gaza. the situation in in israel and gaza . our position is clear and gaza. our position is clear and consistent. we've been categorical in our support for israel's right to self—defence and to go after the architects of the atrocities of 7th of october while stressing israel israel's obligation to act in line with international humanitarian law . i strongly humanitarian law. i strongly welcome the pause in fighting to get hostages out , and we've been get hostages out, and we've been using the opportunity to get more aid into gaza . the uk has more aid into gaza. the uk has trebled its aid, but still not enoughis trebled its aid, but still not enough is getting in via rafah and other crossings . so we are and other crossings. so we are actively exploring other routes, including by sea. the breakdown of the truce today is deeply disappointing thing, not least because a growing number of hostages were coming home. i pay tribute to the role of qatar in helping facilitate these efforts, and i hope that the process can be resumed . we want process can be resumed. we want all hostages released out. and
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in this initial phase , all women in this initial phase, all women and children should be freed. i've said before that the number of civilian casualties and the scale of suffering has been far too high. so the return of hostilities is concerning to us all. we're making it clear that israel must take maximum care to protect civilian life. we're opposed to anything that would involve the mass displacement of people we need to ensure that there are viable designate areas where safety can be guaranteed , where safety can be guaranteed, and we need to ensure that critical infrastructure like water supplies and hospitals are protected again , we've been protected again, we've been consistent on all of this . so consistent on all of this. so i support the civilian protection plans outlined yesterday by the us secretary of state. indeed, this has been a central theme in our discussions with regional leaders here, including israeli president herzog . ultimately we president herzog. ultimately we will redouble our efforts to create a political horizon in which hostages are freed and
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security, safety and dignity is assured . we will continue to assured. we will continue to work with our partners to create a lasting peace, beginning with practical steps that address the crisis now. thank you . all crisis now. thank you. all right. if we turn to some questions, can we start with the . bbc >> vicky young, bbc news. prime minister, no one is really disputing that the uk has done well up to this point in reducing emissions. well up to this point in reducing emissions . but some of reducing emissions. but some of your recent announcements suggest that you feel we've done our bit for now and can leave future progress to others. is that the case as well? >> vicky, thank you for acknowledging that we have done more than others up until now and what i can reassure you is we're going to continue to do more than others going forward too. country has too. so every country has something called a nationally determined contribution , an ndc, determined contribution, an ndc, which out their reduction which sets out their reduction targets through to 2030. these were largely agreed at the cop that we hosted . and what are the
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that we hosted. and what are the uk's 68? that's our ndc in terms of our reduction and i can give you a couple of others. the eu's 55, the us is 40% and i could go on and on, but you won't find another major economy that's got another major economy that's got a more ambitious reduction target for 2030 than the uk . the target for 2030 than the uk. the other bit of good news that i can give you is that we're on track to deliver all these targets we've already have carbon budgets that we've met and we're on track to meet the next one as well. and with all the changes that i made earlier , the changes that i made earlier, we're still on track to meet all of those emissions targets that i've just set out. so that's my point. we meet target s that point. we can meet target s that are already more ambitious than anyone else's is, but we can do so in a more pragmatic way that saves families five, ten, £15,000. why wouldn't you do that? is my question. and i think that's the right thing to do for britain. demonstrate global leadership on this issue, not just in the past, but in the future but in a way that future, but do so in a way that saves families up down our
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saves families up and down our country. thousands of pounds. that to to entirely that seems to me to be entirely reasonable, entirely sensible and the right thing to do for britain next, can we turn to sky ? >> thank you 7_ >> thank you , 7 >> thank you , prime minister. >> thank you, prime minister. >> thank you, prime minister. >> can you honestly say hand on heart that none of the people you've spoken to today have brought up or raised any concern about the recent changes you made policy in the uk? made in green policy in the uk? >> hand on heart 100. >> hand on heart 100. >> no , not a single leader that >> no, not a single leader that i've spoken to today has spoken about that. do you know why? because for most of their targets are less ambitious than the uk's. just take one example the uk's. just take one example the phase out of petrol cars of ice vehicles, right where we previously had a date that was 2030. what did i do that was apparently so dramatic ? i apparently so dramatic? i changed it to 2035. you know why no one's raised it with me. it's because basically every other country in the world is using 2035 as their target. france spain, italy, jersey , agony spain, italy, jersey, agony australia, sweden in multiple
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states in america, canada. that's why . because what we're that's why. because what we're doing is eminently reasonable and we've done more than everyone else. and actually what everyone's spoken me about everyone's spoken to me about today is how the uk is playing a leadership role. they're grateful us not just for the grateful to us not just for the leadership that we've shown in reducing emissions , but for the reducing emissions, but for the actual practical support we're providing them. the £1.6 billion that i announced today is going to do good in lots of to do enormous good in lots of different countries around the world, helping them make that transition into investing in cleaner in research and cleaner fuels, in research and development, innovative development, being innovative with climate finance products that will need to use, that they will need to use, helping to restore their forests. that's they've all forests. that's what they've all been about today. been talking to me about today. and enormously and they're actually enormously appreciative efforts appreciative of all our efforts and are keen for us to keep doing we're so doing what we're doing. so that's the tenor of the conversations had today, that's the tenor of the con\i rsations had today, that's the tenor of the con\i can ons had today, that's the tenor of the con\i can give had today, that's the tenor of the con\i can give you1ad today, that's the tenor of the con\i can give you that,»day, that's the tenor of the con\i can give you that, that and i can give you that, that one example on a phase out date for electric cars. i think demonstrates how distorted demonstrates just how distorted this debate has become. right. i shift a date to be in line with basically every other country me
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and it somehow portrayed as some extreme measure. i think that just tells you that this debate has been polarised by extremes, and that's not healthy or good for country . next . gb news for the country. next. gb news prime minister christopher hope from gb news of the £16 billion announced for climate change finance today , more than £800 finance today, more than £800 million is beyond what you've pledged before. >> how can you afford this, given the cost of living crisis at home? wouldn't money be better off, better off spent on people at home? not when not doing more to resettle on a global stage? >> look, remember here we >> well, look, remember here we have a statutory commitment in legislation to spend 0.7% of our gdp on aid when i was chancellor, precisely because , chancellor, precisely because, as i thought that it was right that we prioritised the situation at home. given that we've just been through a pandemic at the time and everyone could see that the damage that had had done to our economy, the tax economy, the impact on the tax burden i thought
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burden, i thought it was a sensible decision to come off that and that's what i that target. and that's what i did. again, i got an enormous amount criticism that at amount of criticism for that at the , but i thought was the time, but i thought that was the time, but i thought that was the thing to do. reducing the right thing to do. reducing our age budget temporarily whilst we're through whilst we're going through this penod whilst we're going through this period where need restore period where we need to restore the finances in the wake the public finances in the wake of not just in a century of not just a once in a century pandemic, but now an energy crisis, thought a crisis, i thought that was a reasonable crisis, i thought that was a reason'wee crisis, i thought that was a reason'we care about our course we care about our obugafion course we care about our obligation the obligation to the most vulnerable around the vulnerable people around the world. we're compassionate world. we're a compassionate country. always have been. country. we always have been. and continue to do so. and we will continue to do so. i care deeply about that. and i think actually everybody does . think actually everybody does. but think that but they do also think that there's a limit, particularly when difficult at when things are difficult at home and the tax burden has had to up to deal with covid and to go up to deal with covid and an i think an energy crisis. i think there's sensible balance be there's a sensible balance to be struck. the measure struck. and again, the measure that i took that widely that i took that was widely criticised people is criticised by lots of people is one that i believe the british pubuc one that i believe the british public entirely support because they the right they think that is the right priority shows that priority and it shows that you can both. we can be pragmatic can do both. we can be pragmatic about our approach to helping everyone and still, way, everyone and still, by the way, be leader , but also make be a world leader, but also make sure prioritise the
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sure that we prioritise the needs of people at home. that's the balance that i've struck. that's i do prime that's what i will do as prime minister. both the that's what i will do as prime min decision both the that's what i will do as prime min decision the both the that's what i will do as prime min decision the net| the that's what i will do as prime min decision the net zero aid decision and the net zero decision, show that decision, i think, show that attitude making it making it actually real for people at home. next telegraph chief, thank prime minister dominic penna here on the telegraph. neither president biden nor president xi are here today or at the cop conference. the two largest emitters . are you largest emitters. are you worried that if the likes of china and the us don't reduce their emissions , the efforts their emissions, the efforts made in the uk by your government could pale into insignificance ? oh yeah. i think insignificance? oh yeah. i think the broader point i'd make is the broader point i'd make is the uk accounts for less than 1% of global emissions , right? of global emissions, right? i mean, so that is just the reality of it. so all of us who believe in climate change want to make sure that we leave our planet in better shape for our planet in a better shape for our kids and our grandkids have to acknowledge reality , acknowledge that in reality, what to be the what we do isn't going to be the difference in terms of our emissions. of course, it emissions. now, of course, it doesn't mean shouldn't doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. we've got
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anything. of course we've got a responsibility act. got responsibility to act. we've got to demonstrate. we've got to lead what lead by example. that's what we're right to we're doing. but you're right to say that from a kind of practical, scientific perspective, clearly it's the large have large emitters that have to bnng large emitters that have to bring down their emissions reductions. and we can help with that. so the that. right? so lots of the conversations that i've been having today are about how do we leverage what we're doing in our country help others around country to help others around the world, whether it's exporting wind exporting offshore wind technology. and i'll just point you to the deal that we you back to the deal that we announced massive, announced today. it's a massive, massive in uk massive investment in uk offshore wind from the uae. why? because we're a leader in it and that expertise can now be exported around the world and help make transition help others make that transition in, but also climate finance . in, but also in climate finance. and i'll go back to i know it's in, but also in climate finance. aibiti'll go back to i know it's in, but also in climate finance. aibll techie,yack to i know it's in, but also in climate finance. aibll techie, but to i know it's in, but also in climate finance. aibll techie, but fundamentally in, but also in climate finance. aibll is:hie, but fundamentally in, but also in climate finance. aibll is no , but fundamentally in, but also in climate finance. aibll is no , bu1t0|ndamentally in, but also in climate finance. aibll is no , butto solve entally in, but also in climate finance. aibll is no , butto solve thislly there is no way to solve this problem , especially for large problem, especially for large emitters in developing countries, without providing them with finance. and that means a reform of the global financial system . things like financial system. things like the world bank, the imf need to be reformed. their balance sheets need to stretched. sheets need to be stretched. that work is happening and we've
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been we need that work is happening and we've bechange we need that work is happening and we've be change how we need that work is happening and we've be change how we we need that work is happening and we've bechange how we approach |eed to change how we approach lending to these countries, pioneering of climate pioneering the use of climate resilient debt clauses, for example . again, that's something example. again, that's something that i've been talking people that i've been talking to people about. that's how we can help about. so that's how we can help large emitters. it's leveraging about. so that's how we can help largexpertises. it's leveraging about. so that's how we can help largexpertise that; leveraging about. so that's how we can help largexpertise that we leraging about. so that's how we can help largexpertise that we have ng about. so that's how we can help largexpertise that we have in the expertise that we have in technology the of technology. also the city of london, uk financial services and r&d. those are all the ways that we can help large emitters bnng that we can help large emitters bring down their emissions as well leading example. but well as leading by example. but you with you are right. ultimately, with less emissions, as less than 1% of emissions, as we've to have other people we've got to have other people step plate as well, step up to the plate as well, which again, why i think it's which is again, why i think it's entirely going back entirely reasonable. going back to question that, to the first question on that, we can in a pragmatic, we can do this in a pragmatic, proportionate way . again, proportionate way. and again, we're everyone we're doing more than everyone else. we can it in a way that else. we can do it in a way that saves the saves people money. and by the way, account for way, we're only account for 1% of seems to me of emissions. that seems to me the approach . next the . the right approach. next the. i thank you , prime minister hugo thank you, prime minister hugo gye from the i among the many people you've spoken to here today are paul kagame , the today are paul kagame, the president of kenya, and tony blair. can you tell us what you
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talked about with both paul kagame and tony blair? so what's nice to see tony blair, who obviously got an enormous amount of experience of the middle east. so it was good to catch up with . very briefly on that , with him. very briefly on that, paul kagame is obviously we have a deep partnership with rwanda, which he's committed to, as am i. and we're both committed to making it work. i was able to catch up with him on what i spoke to you about yesterday, which was that finalising which was that we're finalising the arrangements we have with them. it was good to check in with that and reiterate with him on that and reiterate both of our commitment to making the paul and the partnership work. paul and l, the partnership work. paul and i, know, have forged a very i, you know, have forged a very strong relationship this strong relationship over this issue. keen to work very issue. he's keen to work very constructively we're constructively with us. we're keen constructively keen to work very constructively with . this is such a vital with them. this is such a vital issue for uk , so it's issue for the uk, so it's important we get the important that we get the details this details of all of this right. but what we're doing. but that's what we're doing. we're process of we're in the process of finalising forward finalising it and i look forward to these proposals to bringing these proposals before parliament and the british public and they british public soon. and they will make it crystal clear that rwanda is a safe country for the
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purposes of our scheme and parliament will have the chance to affirm that and that will ensure that there should no ensure that there should be no more domestic more blocks in our domestic courts to operationalising this scheme . but i've also said that scheme. but i've also said that i wouldn't have a foreign court stand in way of us or stand in the way of us or prevent from getting flight prevent us from getting a flight off when the time when the time comes. and confident we comes. and i'm confident that we now proposals in place. now have the proposals in place. and said, the and as i said, we're in the process finalising but process of finalising those. but that's the opportunity of being process of finalising those. but that' is he opportunity of being process of finalising those. but that' is having)rtunity of being process of finalising those. but that' is having a:unity of being process of finalising those. but that' is having a number being process of finalising those. but that' is having a number ofing process of finalising those. but that' is having a number of very here is having a number of very positive conversations with people on a range of different topics and then lastly, can we go politico . yes prime go to politico. yes prime minister, you can hear me over the background noise. >> the king has been here for two days. >> other world leaders are staying into the weekend. you've been here a matter of hours. >> you're due to leave again imminently . you'll have spent imminently. you'll have spent more time on the private plane than on the ground. that the summit . you really than on the ground. that the summit. you really taking summit. are you really taking cop28 seriously? and what's so pressing that you need to leave so soon? >> so i wouldn't i wouldn't
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measure our impact by our measure our impact here by our spent. i would measure it by the actual things that we're doing that are making a difference. and as i said, the conversations that having with that i've been having with people positive . people are incredibly positive. so one the most productive so one of the most productive set discussions i've had set of discussions i've had today with aj banga, the president of the world bank, kristalina georgieva, who's president , where i president of the imf, where i participated a panel discussion with kristalina, and we were speaking separately about speaking separately is about this significant reform of this very significant reform of the global financial system architecture that needs to happen when it's about climate resilient debt clauses being used. it's about reform of ifis stretching balance sheets, conditional cap raises and recycling of sdrs, all of that is incredibly impactful to literally hundreds of millions of people around the world because of those conversations is what will happen as a result of those. and we led those conversations. i started that as chancellor and having the opportunity dodi to further those conversations , move the those conversations, move the conversation on, will ultimately
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lead to outcomes we're lead to outcomes which we're starting see. we just an starting to see. we just had an announcement today another announcement today about another country using one of these clauses and we pioneered the way on recycling sdrs. now we're talking about deploying that money to help countries around the world in just energy transition partnerships, for example, the example, in vietnam. that's the impact we're having, right? and it's measured in many it's not measured in how many hours because this is hours we're here because this is just aspect of it. these just one aspect of it. these conversations have been on conversations have been going on for been leading conversations have been going on for i've been leading conversations have been going on for i've participating| conversations have been going on for i've participating in them. i've been participating in them. i've been participating in them. and i'm actually very confident that what we've achieved here is significant . achieved here is significant. you know, we've set out our stall, demonstrated our, i think, moral and practical think, both moral and practical leadership on this issue and furthered the agenda in ways that we can make a difference, loss and damage being another example where i'm already talking to people about the structure of how the loss and damage fund will be deployed. that be a point we that will be a point which we will to work through, as we will have to work through, as we talked also doing things talked about also doing things that for uk , that are great for the uk, securing over £10 billion of investment what will be the investment in what will be the largest offshore wind farm that
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we that's to power we have that's going to power millions with clean millions of homes with clean energy, secure in the uk is a massively positive outcome for the uk . that's that's jobs, the uk. that's that's jobs, energy security and cheaper energy. as a result of the conversations and the work that's been happening. so look, i feel very good that this has been a very productive day, but it's not the only day that we focus on tackling climate change. week we change. just this week we announced , think, an announced, i think, an incredible of measures incredible package of measures to restore , protect and enhance to restore, protect and enhance our natural environment at home. a new national forest, a new national park , two new community national park, two new community forests, improving access to nature for children across the country, protected landscapes and protected ecosystems like temperate rainforests that we have in the uk, which are incredibly precious. we've been working on these for a while, right? these and again, we're doing internationally here, doing that internationally here, right? pioneered the right? we pioneered the interaction between nature and climate change. what do we announce today? half £1 billion in forestry support to make sure that forest landscapes are
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sustainable. we protect that biodiversity . everyone's biodiversity. everyone's incredibly excited about it , incredibly excited about it, right? we are leaders in that space. and, you know, i've been able to talk to people about what we can do for them, how are we going to partner with them and that will lead to more and that will lead to many more positive future. positive things in the future. so is so look, again, i think it is it's hugely simplified stick to measure the impact of our of our presence here by the hours we spend. you should be saying to me, you could be here for three days, but that would mean nothing if i hadn't come home with £10 billion of investment in offshore wind farm, in an offshore wind farm, creating and providing in an offshore wind farm, creati|energy.and providing in an offshore wind farm, creati|energy. ori providing in an offshore wind farm, creati|energy. or ifyroviding in an offshore wind farm, creati|energy. or if i)viding in an offshore wind farm, creati|energy. or if i haven't clean energy. or if i haven't been able to announce more money for finance in ways that for climate finance in ways that other like. that's other countries like. and that's going difference to going to make a difference to them conversations them or progress conversations on reforming the global financial , which is financial system, which is ultimately benefit ultimately going to benefit dozens countries and hundreds dozens of countries and hundreds of people. of millions of people. that's a record that everyone should be incredibly i incredibly proud of, right? i mean, to mean, there's nothing to belittle should mean, there's nothing to belittltall should mean, there's nothing to belittltall when should mean, there's nothing to belittltall when it should mean, there's nothing to belittltall when it comes ould mean, there's nothing to belittltall when it comes told mean, there's nothing to belittltall when it comes to the stand tall when it comes to the uk and climate change. we are more than doing our bit. we are leading conversation. more than doing our bit. we are
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learother conversation. more than doing our bit. we are learother thing|versation. more than doing our bit. we are learother thing that ation. more than doing our bit. we are learother thing that at have the other thing that i have achieved in my time here, which we about we haven't spoken about obviously the q and obviously a lot in the q and a is a very substantive set of discussions middle east, discussions on the middle east, right? is, of right? the situation is, of course, incredibly concerning. you what we're seeing and you know what we're seeing and the we've seen is the suffering we've seen is something that will make all of us, i think, sad and upset us, i think, be sad and upset about things. and we all want to find a way to alleviate the suffering, which why the suffering, which is why the breakdown of the temporary humanitarian been humanitarian pause has been disappointing. and i had very productive conversations with the leaders of, as i said, israel , jordan, egypt and qatar israel, jordan, egypt and qatar talking about how we can get more aid in, how can we restart the hostage process , what's the the hostage process, what's the future that we can bring to the people of gaza so that they can live with and security ? live with dignity and security? those are all incredibly important conversations which have happened today. and have all happened today. and again, they're very grateful all for the role that the uk is playing in that situation. we've been one of the leaders in providing aid into the region, not practical not just money, but practical support on ground because support on the ground because a
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lot is logistical lot of this is logistical challenges. that's what i've been to people about been talking to people about today. alleviate today. how do we alleviate the logistical which mean logistical challenges which mean that aid is currently that not enough aid is currently getting in? i talked about whether we can find alternative routes maybe by sea where we can play routes maybe by sea where we can play a role . so again, a whole play a role. so again, a whole host of things that we've made progress on today that think progress on today that i think will a difference. will again make a difference. and conversations i've and from my conversations i've had everyone , all i've had with everyone, all i've heard appreciation for what heard is appreciation for what the uk is doing and an acknowledgement that on all these issues we're leading the global conversation on. so i think it's been a very productive day's work. but, you know, i've got to get back and focus things too, and focus on other things too, and i'll get back to work do i'll get back to work and do that tomorrow. thank very that tomorrow. thank you very much. you. thank much. nice to see you. thank you. thank you. >> well, that was rishi sunak, our minister, in dubai at our prime minister, in dubai at the cop 28 summit. he gave quite a short speech, quite concise , a short speech, quite concise, and then, of course, had questions from the press there. i believe there were five questions, including , of course, questions, including, of course, from christopher hope, our gb news political editor, who asked quite a punchy one, i thought,
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talking about the amount of money that rishi sunak has pledged environmental pledged to environmental projects around world, projects around the world, asking whether it's good value for taxpayer money, considering some of the hardship we have here. absolutely. >> the prime minister also faced challenges over the fact he was only for today . keir only there for today. keir starmer longer. the king starmer staying longer. the king staying longer, and then the prime giving perhaps staying longer, and then the prinlongest giving perhaps staying longer, and then the prinlongest givirouterhaps staying longer, and then the prinlongest givirout of|aps staying longer, and then the prinlongest givirout of all of the longest answer out of all of those questions in the q and a emphasising how he emphasising just how much he done, how many world leaders he'd met, and what had been achieved, not just on climate, but on other issues as well. >> one of the questions that was quite interesting from a from another broadcaster was about the phasing out of the well, the how do we say the pushing, bringing, pushing back the end date for that ban on sale of petrol and diesel cars, new petrol and diesel cars, new petrol and diesel cars, new petrol and diesel cars . and he petrol and diesel cars. and he seemed to say, well , no one has seemed to say, well, no one has raised that issue with me here because we have one of the most progressive policies out there compared to other countries in the world. >> it's a fascinating
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distinction between the conversation we have the conversation that we have in the uk and conversation that's uk and the conversation that's happening elsewhere in the world, said. it shows how world, he said. it shows how distorted debate has distorted this debate has become. but listening to all of that was the broadcaster amy nicol turner and the daily telegraph columnist madeline grant . and madeline, start with grant. and madeline, start with you. what was your biggest takeaway? >> well, my biggest single, biggest observation was actually quite low quality of some of the questions from the press pack there. do you know what? >> hold thought. >> hold that thought. >> hold that thought. >> live to >> we're going to go live to christopher hope , who's just got christopher hope, who's just got set up. >> he, course, asked that >> he, of course, asked that question over, where is this >> he, of course, asked that questiogoing, where is this >> he, of course, asked that questiogoing for1ere is this >> he, of course, asked that questiogoing for hope? this money going for hope? >> christopher hope, >> i stress christopher hope, take . take it away. >> well , tom take it away. >> well, tom and ellie, that was interesting. >> press conference is delayed for many for many about two hours, i think, because of other requirements of the pm's time here at cop 2028. i think it was a, you know, a defensive position there from rishi sunak. he is only here for a half a day, basically working hard , day, basically working hard, meeting people. he has met, of
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course, with tony blair, met with paul kagame , the leader of with paul kagame, the leader of rwanda, some talks, one rwanda, doing some talks, one would imagine, about the new treaty to try and get this idea of moving migrants from this country illegally arrived to rwanda and then processed safely and not sent back to their own countries. he announced a big spending announcement. there 10 billion, 11 billion, forgive me for a new wind offshore wind farm on dogger bank with. so he is doing walking the walk as he would see it. i asked him on behalf of gb news viewers why it was that he's found another £800 million of our money to try and invest and help with climate change when so many people, viewers of gb news at home are suffering with the cost of living crisis, he said that he is a balance. he's got to make that he he's got to while getting the economy growing, he's got to make sure that the uk its fair share on the uk does its fair share on the global stage . so we'll wait and global stage. so we'll wait and see if your email basket out what viewers think of that. but
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he was certainly i think someone who is he's been a long day at here at here at cop 28. he thinks that the uk is punching above its weight. he quoted there some figures showing that uk has cut emissions more than most other g7 countries since 1990, and he thinks that going back to 2035, the abolition of new petrol diesel vehicles is merely in line with other other developed countries . he also developed countries. he also said, notably it was asked there wasn't he have you been have you found your position weakened by that, by rowing back on those targets in that quite important speech in september? he said not a single person has raised it. so he clearly thinks that while his at home and indeed his critics at home and indeed here with keir starmer might say that embarrassing , he that he's he's embarrassing, he watered down the uk's commitment on on climate change. he would say actually we're doing quite a good job. >> christopher, on your question on was i right to here i think rishi sunak suggested that
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perhaps the money going towards these international climate projects was came out of the foreign aid budget . projects was came out of the foreign aid budget. did projects was came out of the foreign aid budget . did you hear foreign aid budget. did you hear that to well, yeah , you're right. >> that's how we answer the question. emily. basically they announced 1.6 billion of new funding, but that was of that figure , 888 million was new figure, 888 million was new money that hadn't previously been announced. so my question to him, why? why do this when we are such an outlier? it seems , are such an outlier? it seems, on helping the world decarbonise ? why not use that money to spend maybe on other priorities at home? you know, hospitals , at home? you know, hospitals, schools and the rest. and that's what many viewers might feel. he then said, well, look, look at what did with the aid budget. what he did with the aid budget. he from 0.7% to 0.5% he cut that from 0.7% to 0.5% dunng he cut that from 0.7% to 0.5% during the pandemic. of course, that that won't go back to 0.7 percent until, i think 2020, 27 at earliest. so he's trying at the earliest. so he's trying to indicate he takes tough choices , but equally the uk must choices, but equally the uk must balance that with being a good partner the world stage on partner on the world stage on cutting climate change. well
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chris, know, got to chris, you know, you've got to run plane the run onto that plane with the prime we'll let prime minister now, so we'll let you make your home. you make your way home. >> thank you very much for talking to us there. good afternoon from us here in london. and good evening to you in dubai. >> it's interesting . the >> it's interesting. the question from gb question that came from gb news was one that focussed on, was the one that focussed on, you british and you know, british people and their taxpayer money. yes. >> , i think it was a useful, >> no, i think it was a useful, useful perspective. sorry, madeleine, we interrupted you to go dubai . but your go live to dubai. but your thoughts, that big takeaway from from this press conference. >> yeah, well , from this press conference. >> yeah, well, i from this press conference. >> yeah, well , i thought was >> yeah, well, i thought it was really interesting how both the bbc sky led with questions bbc and sky led with questions that practically identical that were practically identical about with our about to do with our international reputation and, you know, have you brought our country into disrepute suit by deciding actually the deciding that actually the completely arbitrary boris johnson petrol diesel deadline that he basically plucked out of the air to say that he was five years ahead of eu and years ahead of the eu and possibly to impress carrie that that slightly that relaxing that slightly makes us some kind of international pariah . international pariah. >> they both went in on that. then there were sensible
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questions. obviously i'm biased from and from the telegraph and news and then end then that question at the end from was completely from politico was completely idiotic you alluded idiotic because as you alluded to in your interview with christopher hope , the christopher hope, the journalists the prime journalists travel on the prime minister's plane. it's not a private plane. it's not some kind plated private jet kind of gold plated private jet that rishi sunak. we that belongs to rishi sunak. we are advanced economy . and are an advanced economy. and what does it look like if we have a prime minister turning up to engagements in like, you know, do they like a know, what do they want? like a megabus i mean, megabus or a rickshaw? i mean, i just wonder they're just always wonder what they're actually here with actually asking for here with that question. >> reason that they >> i think the reason that they always go for that always try and go for that question a of a way question is a kind of in a way symbolises rishi sunak commitment to climate. commitment to the climate. i understand saying , understand what you're saying, but i think really, if he was true to himself, would just true to himself, he would just private everywhere, because private jet everywhere, because that of issue with that is kind of the issue with the government that it remains the government that it remains the fact that they're still offering subsidies to the offering larger subsidies to the fossil fuel companies than the green energy companies. and i think ways people see i think in many ways people see i don't true. it is true. >> i think what rishi sunak might to that is there's might say to that is there's a 75% tax the profits from the 75% tax on the profits from the nonh 75% tax on the profits from the north sea. >> this this windfall tax that
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so many people argued for some some companies in the north sea are now closing down because they make any money. they can't make any money. >> i think that if you look at the energy companies, the general energy companies, they're amount they're making an absurd amount of money. it's a massively profitable area. whilst our bills are going up and the windfall tax didn't go far, not actually the companies that do the digging, they finding it the digging, they are finding it very to find our very difficult to find it in our regulatory to hear a regulatory environment to hear a prime minister who is overseeing the lowest disposal income in the lowest disposal income in the last 70 years, the highest tax burdens in the last 75 years. so saying peacocking about saving british people money, well, i suppose i suppose he might say it would be even worse if he hadn't made this decision. >> more money. >> more money. >> i think it's i think it's just peacocking at cop. that's what i think about. very little . what i think about. very little. >> he's very little on the point i >> -- >> on the point about how he approaches . approaches. >> just borrow the money and no one ever has to pay for it. you
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never just just magic out nowhere. >> i think that be a much >> i think that would be a much stronger tax as on stronger windfall tax as well on those companies. those energy companies. i think what stronger than 75% was what was stronger than 75% was 9095, making a minute. it was obscene what they were making. >> well, that was global profits . so it wasn't it wasn't just in the uk. and that's the issue because if you tax the profits too highly here, what happens is those go dig for those companies will go dig for oil elsewhere . and we're seeing oil elsewhere. and we're seeing that already. but on the point about how they get there, the private jets, it's not just rishi is it , private jets, it's not just rishi is it, who private jets, it's not just rishi is it , who arrives rishi sunak, is it, who arrives by plane . everyone's doing it. by plane. everyone's doing it. and that's one of criticisms and that's one of the criticisms of types of international of these types of international summits talk about climate summits that talk about climate change. you know, how change. but you know, how seriously can you take it when you have hordes of journalists? i think it's quite funny because the who the question the guy who asked the question to about his plane to rishi sunak about his plane will back will probably be travelling back with sunak plane. with rishi sunak on his plane. >> . >> yes. >> yes. >> mean, >> yes. >> i mean, do >> yes. >>imean, do it on zoom. >> i mean, to do it on zoom. >> well, it could be the think. >> i think the organisation that asked that question was politico. maybe he's like politico. maybe, maybe he's like lawrence arabia walking like lawrence of arabia walking like like walking across
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like rory stewart walking across the middle east, perhaps , you the middle east, perhaps, you know, greta thunberg famously, she will not get on a plane. >> she travels everywhere she will not get on a plane. >> sisheavels everywhere she will not get on a plane. >> sishe reallyeverywhere she will not get on a plane. >> sishe really does/here she will not get on a plane. >> sishe really does lives she will not get on a plane. >> sishe really does live what boat. she really does live what she says. >> but the hilarious story about that, she went to a summit that, when she went to a summit in new york, i believe by by by sailing famously the story about thatis sailing famously the story about that is she sailed across , but that is she sailed across, but then she was staying in america for months and months. >> the people who sailed her across, the three of them all had to fly back. >> which net probably was >> yeah. which net probably was more flying than they otherwise would have been. she was her principal. >> she had her. she did her show. so i would i would submit that greta might have a bit less going the prime minister going on than the prime minister of important, of an important, important western . western democracy. >> rishi sunak did say thing >> rishi sunak did say one thing that did agree that i really, really did agree with, though. said, we're not with, though. he said, we're not the world is not moving quickly or effectively enough. he should have said and then have just said that and then said thank you and goodbye , said thank you and goodbye, because that's all the truth that was in that. it's interesting. >> there was a question where he was know, you was asked, you know, have you where journalist where the journalist said, of course you've done well up to
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now. and he said, thank you for saying we've done well up to now , going on sort of making it sound little bit final . sound a little bit final. >> we've done our bit now we're but i suppose legitimate point that as rishi sunak said, decarbonised by 48% since 1990. >> that's more than any g7 country. indeed that's more than any g20 country . that percentage any g20 country. that percentage of getting our carbon emissions down. >> fantastic. tom so when you're winning a race, you don't take your foot off the accelerator , your foot off the accelerator, do you? >> may i just to let us go to >> may i just go to let us go to ourinbox >> may i just go to let us go to our inbox because haven't our inbox because we haven't show i'm terribly sorry show and i'm terribly sorry because there have been some some emails coming in, some brilliant emails coming in, particularly on issue particularly on the issue of rishi sunak spending lots of money on on on climate change elsewhere in the world. >> actually , this one is on the >> actually, this one is on the allegation that rishi sunak wasn't spending enough time at the cop 28 conference. diane says , i would say that rishi says, i would say that rishi sunak hasn't got the time to waste in dubai, whereas starmer and the king and the amount and the king have and the amount
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diane and the massive amount of money pledged at this event will probably be taken from the pensioners of this country. well, don't know that well, i don't know about that because the triple lock is very much in place for now at much still in place for now at least. pensioners this >> the pensioners of this country over 8% country are getting over 8% extra which is quite extra this year, which is quite a lot more money really. if you look at the grand scale of things, this is a very strong view, jackie says . view, jackie says. >> can somebody please stop sunak from constantly giving our money away? i mean, if it was his purse that he was opening up and just spending on all these things , he'd probably have more things, he'd probably have more terms and conditions on the spending, i do feel like spending, right? i do feel like sometimes leaders do these sometimes our leaders do these things. perhaps it's good for diplomacy , perhaps it's good for diplomacy, perhaps it's good for soft don't know. soft power. i don't know. >> but it does seem awfully expensive course, expensive because, of course, our political editor , our wonderful political editor, christopher hope, asked this question should be spending question should he be spending this money overseas when people are struggling here? >> he answered it by talking about the foreign aid budget. and think got quite and i don't think we got a quite clear in terms of whether clear answer in terms of whether or money actually or not this money was actually coming aid coming out of the foreign aid
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budget, is money already coming out of the foreign aid budgwe is money already coming out of the foreign aid budgwe have is money already coming out of the foreign aid budgwe have committed already coming out of the foreign aid budgwe have committed byaady coming out of the foreign aid budgwe have committed by law to that we have committed by law to spend. but madeleine, i suppose if it did come out of the foreign aid budget, would foreign aid budget, that would be sensible use of it. be quite a sensible use of it. >> i agree. i think >> i agree. i mean, i think climate change geopolitics climate change and geopolitics are , inextricably are inextricable, inextricably unkedin are inextricable, inextricably linked in the modern world and actually with when it comes to assisting countries that are, for example, burning coal , as for example, burning coal, as i mentioned earlier, if you help them divest from coal, i think it's a very good return on your investment . and from a green investment. and from a green perspective, does a lot more good than some the, you know, good than some of the, you know, quite that we're quite tweaky projects that we're doing quite tweaky projects that we're doiiyeah, i feel like climate >> yeah, i feel like climate change is just inextricably change is just so inextricably unked change is just so inextricably linked to all the issues that are high up on the agenda, something that some that people care much about is immigration. >> now, if we're displacing hundreds of thousands of people, that's going to create a lot more problems with immigration that's going to create a lot morypeopleems with immigration that's going to create a lot morypeople needing immigration that's going to create a lot morypeople needing tormigration that's going to create a lot morypeople needing to seekation and people needing to seek refuge. so of course, we need to spend a lot dealing with this problem. problem impacts everything. >> yeah. what i would say to that, i do agree. i do agree in part. however, i think that we
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can overstate the sort of almost feeling of original sin that western countries have about climate change. you know, it's not displaced people. not we are not displaced people. often civil war in often there's civil war in countries that we've had nothing to you know , eritrea to do with. you know, eritrea for about climate damage and damage from extreme weather. it's quite hard to say who's who's left because of climate and because and who's left because of geopolitics and war and strikes or perhaps fewer people would leave if their countries, you know, fossil fuels, know, burnt some fossil fuels, developed , got rich, maybe developed, got rich, like maybe that stop so much mass movement. >> so you get the thoughts of political commentator peter spencer , is the line spencer, who is down the line for us. >> peter, thank you very much for joining us on the show. so i forjoining us on the show. so i assume you were listening to rishi sunak and the questions he was asked. what's your assessment of what he said and how he rebutted some of the claims from the journalists there ? there? >> well, i know i have to say that he was getting grief from the journalists over his hissy fit, not hissy fit earlier on in the week about the elgin stroke, a marbles, which i
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a parthenon marbles, which i think he got well do without. i can understand why it is that every now and then you get a flash of irritation crossing his face. well, i dare say that if i were him, i'd have a fair few of those as well. now, when it comes to his pitch at the cop at the summit, sure . i mean, look, the summit, sure. i mean, look, we everyone recognised that we seem to be on course for the hottest summer, hottest year even hottest summer, hottest year ever. and there's a there's a there's a there's a consensus that something needs to be done , that something needs to be done, although there does tend to be a bit of a feeling, be rather nice if it was someone else did it. now i note that that sunak himself is opening was, himself is opening pitch was, look, going to we're going look, we're going to we're going to shove just over £15 to shove in just over £15 billion to boost green energy, which is a start. but i sort of contrast this with what happened in the summer. do you remember when there was the uxbridge by—election, tories saved it by a whisker, largely because it is thought of local protest against having to pay more for driving
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around in their heavily polluting cars . ergo, thinking polluting cars. ergo, thinking back at conservative campaign headquarters , let's rain back on headquarters, let's rain back on the green agenda and make it into a wedge issue with labour now where does all that sit ? now where does all that sit? >> but peter, i suppose the point with regard to that is as rishi sunak said in that press conference, hand on heart , that conference, hand on heart, that not a single world leader mentioned the uxbridge by—election or indeed mentioned the delay in this ban on new oil and diesel cars . it does seem and diesel cars. it does seem that potentially this has been quite an introspective argument in the united kingdom because compared to the targets of all these other countries around the world, we're still fairly world leading . leading. >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> we're not doing too badly at all. and you're quite right, it is an absolutely introspective argument. i just note that there appears to be a bit of a conflict in the overall thrust of the british government's policy, bearing in mind that
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wedge issue thing. i mean, going back to the marbles, i mean, there might be those around thinking poor old rishi has gone and lost marbles way or and lost his marbles one way or another . another. >> he was it did seem as though he speaking the he was speaking to both the international and the international audience and the domestic because he did domestic audience because he did highlight a that how we needed to decarbonise in a pragmatic way that doesn't burden working people that very much follows on that whole i'm sorry i didn't catch that. >> the signal dropped out. what catch that. >> 'yourignal dropped out. what catch that. >> “your question?3ed out. what was your question? >> did say that >> sorry, peter. he did say that he to decarbonise in a he wanted us to decarbonise in a pragmatic way, catching . pragmatic way, catching. >> i can't actually lip read at this rate . this rate. >> we'll have to end that there. sorry. very much sorry. thank you very much for your spencer, your time. peter spencer, political your time. peter spencer, poli'going to say is that it did was going to say is that it did seem like he was trying talk seem like he was trying to talk to both international to both the international community and domestic audience, saying that we're going to be pragmatic and not burden working people. so that's the same as what he was saying before the eyes international and the domestic just get the wool across. >> all of them. >> all of them. >> it's interesting. >> it's interesting. >> mean that? >> what do you mean by that? >> what do you mean by that? >> i is everything he >> what i mean is everything he said not actually helpful to
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said is not actually helpful to addressing climate change in the serious way that we need to . i'd serious way that we need to. i'd say johnson was probably say boris johnson was probably the conservative leader the clearest conservative leader that is that we've had on this, which is what we voted for. >> well, that thought , >> well, hold that thought, because have because we're going to have a little subject here. little change of subject here. had enough of cough. now, jake , had enough of cough. now, jake, i think a lot of people have had a lot of cough, but we'll come back and there's much, back to you and there's much, much more discuss. much more to discuss. >> people have >> so 39 people have been arrested after violence broke out build up to aston out in the build up to aston villa's game with legia warsaw in birmingham last night. >> yes, police officers >> yes, four police officers were injured in clashes with were injured in the clashes with legia not allowed into legia fans not allowed into villa park before the kick off. on the advice of west midlands police. >> so our reporterjack carson >> so our reporter jack carson is at villa park. >> jack, i'm sure quite a few of our viewers at home have seen some of the footage, the press coverage from last night. it looked pretty violent . and can looked pretty violent. and can you explain what happened exactly ? yeah it was certainly exactly? yeah it was certainly some disturbing scenes here last night, just to say there's been
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an update in the past couple of hours that it's 46 people now that are in custody , all of them away. >> fans, all of them legia warsaw fans have been arrested and are in police custody with west midlands police for multiple different types of offences, including , they say, offences, including, they say, violent disorder, assaulting police officers and weapons possession as well. now, of course , essentially what course, essentially what happened here last night, it's been building up for quite a few weeks now. there's certainly been tension building up to been some tension building up to this match because, of course , this match because, of course, legia their fans last legia warsaw, their fans last month when they played ak alkmaar in the netherlands, alkmaar in in the netherlands, essentially they involved essentially they were involved in in disorder there with the dutch police uefa after that took action to then ban the away fans from travelling to bosnia for their next game against hsk zrinjski. so this was the first game for some time home away from home that these legia warsaw fans were able to attend. and because of that, on the advice of the safety that essentially safety kind of group thatis essentially safety kind of group that is a mix of police officers, a mix of authorities.
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aston villa as well involved in those conversations . they those conversations. they decided to reduce the initial 5% allocation of just over 2000 tickets to the away fans to 1000. but essentially because of the worries of the kind of disorder that we'd seen here before from the legia warsaw fans as they travelled away from home in uefa conference league games. and so what that meant was, is then was when these fans turned up, many them, the turned up, many of them, the westminster believed, had westminster police believed, had travelled as travelled without tickets as well. turned up here, well. when they turned up here, there had been an administration problem from the representatives of legia warsaw . that meant that of legia warsaw. that meant that a lot of the tickets hadn't actually been allocated and distributed to the fans that the police say is the reason that essentially the violence in the disorder then kicked off. of course, the police then tried to sustain many of those fans in the car park. that's actually just in front here. and of just in front of me here. and of course , that what then happened course, that what then happened then that those legia warsaw then is that those legia warsaw fans more agitated. fans then got more agitated. they throwing things they started throwing things like started like tree branches, started throwing things like bottles and
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flares as well. there had been reports that because of some, of course, that footage that one of the police officers did actually catch fire and west lindsey police have confirmed that it was the fluorescent jacket of one of their who also one of their officers who also received concussion after a flare was thrown from somewhere in the crowd. he did actually catch fire. they do say, though, he suffered no, no burn injuries. and that jacket was was removed him was able to be removed from him quickly . now, was able to be removed from him quickly. now, in was able to be removed from him quickly . now, in the was able to be removed from him quickly. now, in the build up, aston villa said that they had quickly. now, in the build up, astortoilla said that they had quickly. now, in the build up, astorto communicate :hey had quickly. now, in the build up, astorto communicate with 1ad quickly. now, in the build up, astorto communicate with legia tried to communicate with legia warsaw this, but of course, warsaw over this, but of course, they say that actually this what we saw yesterday here was planned violence . planned violence. >> well, jack , thank you so much >> well, jack, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest. incredibly dramatic pictures there. let's hope that the order continues to remain mean things. >> things go on off. they really did really kicked off. >> oh, and also, jack, congratulations on your royal television society award as well. a really, really great accolade. >> very great accolade. >> very great accolade. >> and it's on your strap .
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>> and it's on your strap. >> and it's on your strap. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> well, go and keep warm, jack. we'll you later. we'll see you later. >> you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> well, so much >> marvellous. well, so much more to come after the break. no doubt more talk about whether or not it's right for the king to wade into politics as he has and just exactly what is going on when it comes to our money being sent over overseas. don't go anywhere .
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right? >> well, cop has dominated this afternoon show, but elsewhere, matt hancock is back in front of the covid 19 inquiry today. he was, of course, there yesterday to and the former health secretary has accepted that kissing his famous aide, gina coladangelo , might have impacted coladangelo, might have impacted the public's confidence in rules, rules put in place to stop the spread of the virus. okay, so he's addressed the affair . affair. >> goodness me. it was always going to come to this, wasn't it? let's perhaps hide behind the sofa and hear the gory details from our political correspondent, katherine forster dear catherine, you've been in the inquiry . why did everyone the inquiry. why did everyone cnnge the inquiry. why did everyone cringe age when that famous kiss was brought up . was brought up. >> well, thankfully, we didn't have to see it again, did we? that's an image that we can never remove from our brains ,
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never remove from our brains, but a very difficult day and a half. let's face it, for matt hancock , former health secretary hancock, former health secretary yesterday it emerged that the protective ring that he claimed and the government had thrown around at care homes was really no such thing as i suspect. we already knew and said that he'd pushed for a quicker first lockdown today , say various lockdown today, say various interesting nuggets . but let's interesting nuggets. but let's just start with yes. and that transgression as hugo keith kc called it, he asked about that and what effect that might have had on the public mood . let's had on the public mood. let's have a look at what matt hancock had to say in response . had to say in response. >> well, what i'd say is that . >> well, what i'd say is that. the lesson for the future is very clear here. and it is important that those who make the rules abide by them. and i
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resign in order to take accountability for my failure to do that . do that. >> and that, to your credit, must have been in reflection of the fact that you understood the importance of or the deleterious consequence of rule breaking or guidance breaking on public confidence and the public at large . yes. all right . large. yes. all right. >> yes. so that story, of course, cost matt hancock his job and he certainly never really recovered from that, has he? he currently doesn't have the conservative whip. it was taken away from him when he went into the jungle. he published his pandemic diaries that, as has been pointed out during the inquiry , were not diaries. they inquiry, were not diaries. they were basically reassembled at a later date. but today they in addition to that, we heard that his mother suffers from long covid and that not only did he push for a later first lockdown, but he pushed very hard for a later third lockdown. and he'd
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said that if the government had gone further in the autumn of 2020 than they did then, perhaps schools would not have needed to be closed. and interesting detail about the current prime minister rishi sunak, who was chancellor at the time, matt hancock alleges that rishi sunak was known to be sort of against taking stronger measures. but in the autumn of 2020 was seen to be keen on basically perhaps closing the secondary schools at that point rather than non essential shops. but questions from many lawyers representing different groups , disabled different groups, disabled people, people of colour , the people, people of colour, the trade union congress bereaved families. but i think what was most notable was really searching questions over the care homes and what emerged was that clearly matt hancock had to admit that they simply initially didn't have enough tests to test
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people. also so they didn't have enough ppe , ppe. there was enough ppe, ppe. there was allegations that care homes that had paid for ppe had that actually not delivered and given to the nhs instead. so obviously huge failings. but matt hancock clearly believes that he did the best he could under very difficult circumstances. as he said, there were only bad opfions said, there were only bad options for the government catherine. >> just very quickly, we saw that short clip of matt hancock addressing his his relationship there , there. but what was his there, there. but what was his general body language like? how do you think he's coping with the hours of being questioned . the hours of being questioned. >> i think it probably been some of the hardest hours of his life, apart from , of course, life, apart from, of course, when that story actually actually broke. but, you know, he kept his cool by and large. there was one point that something was put up on the screen and the lawyer said, you know, reading this, if you can
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see it, mr hancock and matt hancock snapped her. yes, i can see it. thank you. i do know how to read. so he lost his cool a little bit. then but overall, he kept it together. he clearly wants to rehabilitate himself . wants to rehabilitate himself. but of course, for the many bereaved families of the 230,000 people that died , there's no people that died, there's no forgiveness for matt hancock. from many quarters . but of from many quarters. but of course, he was one man. the government made mistakes as governments all across the world did. hindsight is a wonderful thing. but yeah , a lot of people thing. but yeah, a lot of people are certainly not not keen on matt hancock these days . matt hancock these days. >> well, katherine forster, thank you very much for bringing us details there. us all of those details there. some more palatable than others from an exciting day at the tote i was getting at, i wonder. >> i wonder if he was able to keep his cool. so there we go, he snapped once. >> yes, i do think it's important to remember, though. we often talk fatalistically
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we do often talk fatalistically about the uk's to covid about the uk's response to covid because we had a big first wave. but look the waves that all but look at the waves that all these european countries in but look at the waves that all therfollowingin countries in but look at the waves that all therfollowing wintertries in but look at the waves that all therfollowing winter .'ies in but look at the waves that all therfollowing winter . we in but look at the waves that all therfollowing winter . we ended the following winter. we ended up muddling through around the same total numbers. total proportions. by the end of it all, the uk not not a big outlier . outlier. >> yes, well, we'll come back to this, but get your this, but let's get your headunes this, but let's get your headlines sophia . headlines with sophia. >> it's 231. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . the prime in the newsroom. the prime minister says the world needs to do more to tackle climate change. during a speech at cop 28, rishi sunak urged other major polluting countries to follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions . follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions. mr follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions . mr sunak announced emissions. mr sunak announced a deal to invest up to £11 billion to build the biggest wind farm in the world at dogger bank. he also praised king charles for his involvement in the annual un climate talks in dubai . the climate talks in dubai. the
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former health secretary has warned. in april 2020 about the need for focussed effort for care home testing . matt hancock care home testing. matt hancock told the uk covid 19 inquiry that there was not as much testing in care homes as many would have wanted because the uk did not have enough tests . he did not have enough tests. he also said the rule of six and tiers didn't go far enough to help stop the spread of the virus . mr sunak also accused virus. mr sunak also accused bofis virus. mr sunak also accused boris johnson of being not willing to go further in terms of national restrictions. in the autumn of 2020. he said the government should have acted more swiftly . the prime minister more swiftly. the prime minister says greece needs to admit that the uk owns the elgin marbles before any loan deal can be agreed . a diplomatic row broke agreed. a diplomatic row broke out this week after rishi sunak cancelled a bilateral meeting with the greek prime minister that led to the chairman of the british museum having difficulty in negotiating a loan deal for the marbles with athens . greece the marbles with athens. greece says they are not willing to agree to uk's lawful ownership ,
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agree to uk's lawful ownership, claiming the marbles were acquired legally at the time . acquired legally at the time. members of aslef have voted overwhelmingly to continue strike action for the next six months in their dispute over pay- months in their dispute over pay. the announcement comes as its members at 16 train companies are refusing to work overtime from today until next saturday. the company said they will operate as many trains as possible , but some areas may possible, but some areas may have no services . as the union have no services. as the union accused the government and employers of not trying to negotiate. but rail delivery group says the union should accept the offer that will bring train drivers salary . from 60 to train drivers salary. from 60 to £65,000. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . for our website at gbnews.com. for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial
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news . well news. well now it's time to discuss some of the other stories that have made the headunes stories that have made the headlines today. >> i want to turn to the weather because, of course, we've had an absolute snap of absolute freezing snap of weather. it quite cold. weather. it is quite cold. indeed it is. >> and we are british, so there is nothing better to do than talk about the weather on a friday afternoon. joining us in the studio the author and the studio is the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner and the daily telegraph columnist madeline grant now, madeleine, is it too cold? is it too cold for people to go about their lives today ? their lives today? >> well, i don't think so personally, but of course, i live in london where the transport links are fantastic. and it's also there's this weird microclimate in london. i think all the pollution makes it significantly whenever significantly warmer whenever i go to my in the go to visit my family in the midlands, always realise i've midlands, i always realise i've packed wrong packed completely the wrong clothes have start clothes and i have to start borrowing my old jackets borrowing my mum's old jackets and so it's and things like this. so it's easy for me to say in general.
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yes, i think we are getting a bit too wimpy about this. it's very important that kids last days of school make an enormous difference and we should very difference and we should be very careful before we start allowing difference and we should be very carefto before we start allowing difference and we should be very carefto happen.ie start allowing that to happen. >> this is the thing. >> well, this is the thing. schools apparently closing schools are apparently closing across the uk because temperatures have reached minus . temperatures have reached minus. five. now, people will know that elsewhere in the world, temperatures often plummet to minus five and a lot lower than that. amy, do you think we're a bit soft in this country? >> you said it yourself, you've used the word it often here we do not get this often. >> that's we're ill >> that's why we're so ill equipped. think every equipped. and i think every single year we have the same conversation. it's almost become as of a tradition like as much of a tradition as like saying , oh, it gets earlier saying, oh, it gets earlier every year, christmas. so we know it's happening, but we're not because not for prepared snow because what two, what do we have? maybe two, three snow a year . and three days of snow a year. and imagine if we spent all this money on infrastructure around that everyone would go mad . amy that everyone would go mad. amy british tradition to not agree every every year we have we look at some village in canada that
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deals with eight feet of snow saying, well, they can handle it. >> well yeah, because they have the because the infrastructure because they expect know what? >> i went on holiday iceland >> i went on holiday to iceland in and i could not cope in january and i could not cope to cold cope. i just didn't anticipate how the temperature. so i wore like a jacket, but it didn't realise your ears, your face. everything has to be protected. >> i went to reykjavik in august and the weather turned from i managed to get burnt and freezing in just one week that i was there because the weather just changes all the time. >> we're just used to like mine and things in britain . mild and things in britain. mild temperatures, mild manners , temperatures, mild manners, that's it. >> but there's a specific question here when it comes to schools, schools closing for snow days, for it being too cold. >> and i have a large experience of this when i was growing up in cambridge , a personal experience cambridge, a personal experience whereby lots of schools around me would close whenever it snowed, it felt like it was relatively common. and one of
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the reasons i've recently learned is actually something that people might not expect. it's to do with the housing crisis of all things, whereby people can't live close to these schools in the middle of cities that have experienced a huge growth in house prices. so teachers and other staff have to travel in from miles and miles away, which is impossible when the roads become very icy or very snowy. >> do you know what you've just done there? >> what have i done? >> what have i done? >> you found the lining >> you found the silver lining of housing crisis because of the housing crisis because what beats a snow day. my husband says he used to have to listen to the radio and hear, like, which schools are going to be closed and you'd have your fingers crossed it's going fingers crossed that it's going to yeah, my to be your school. yeah, like my son. day of the son. that is the best day of the yeah son. that is the best day of the year. the snow day. don't take away the great british day. away the great british snow day. well, okay, so we should inflate house more, make the house prices even more, make the country more unliveable . country more unliveable. >> but madeleine, you brought a serious there. children serious point there. children missing school is not good thing. >> yeah, and i don't want to be like the miss trunchbull of this
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panel like the miss trunchbull of this panel, it's really panel, but i think it's really bad to miss school. bad for kids to miss school. it's also nightmare mom it's also a nightmare for mom and well, who have to and dad as well, who have to figure know, childcare and dad as well, who have to figurtday know, childcare and dad as well, who have to figurtday when know, childcare and dad as well, who have to figurtday when they /, childcare and dad as well, who have to figurtday when they /, child bee on a day when they might be expected despite expected in the office despite the closures. don't the school closures. i don't know . i mean, we've we've know. i mean, we've we've clearly we've always been bad at this, but perhaps with with temperatures will be temperatures rising, we will be experiencing fewer of these days in perhaps previous in general, perhaps previous generation, previous generation was when it often colder in was when it was often colder in winters like when dad was at winters like when my dad was at university, there was the great freeze of 1963, i think it was , freeze of 1963, i think it was, and the rivers all froze over and the rivers all froze over and people were skating them and people were skating on them and people were skating on them and thing . and this kind of thing. >> the reason why >> and of course, the reason why we snow and ice with we associate snow and ice with christmas first place, or christmas in the first place, or at snow with christmas. at least snow with christmas. charles growing up in charles dickens growing up in the ice age in, what was the mini ice age in, what was it, the 1840s? sos the mini ice age in, what was it, the 1840s? 50s yeah, where the thames froze over when there was snow for months and months. that's when charles dickens had his formative experiences and then went and wrote all these books that associated snow with christmas . and that's why we i christmas. and that's why we i do actually . do actually. >> you do. >> you do. >> you do. >> you read the dickens .
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>> you read the dickens. >> you read the dickens. >> it's a great service announcement, though. >> don't go skating on ponds now. >> no, no, don't do it. >> that what. yeah. >> no, no, don't do it. >> don't what. yeah. >> no, no, don't do it. >> don't do 'hat. yeah. >> no, no, don't do it. >> don't do it,t. yeah. >> no, no, don't do it. >> don't do it, mreah. >> no, no, don't do it. >> don't do it, mr pickwick, and go skating. >> right, let's to >> all right, let's move on to a different story, because this one controversial . it's one is quite controversial. it's caused lot of quite a caused quite a lot of quite a big storm around this is the big storm around it. this is the comments the bbc radio host comments of the bbc radio host nihal arthur. arthur nana akua , nihal arthur. arthur nana akua, who said that he was struggling with his mental health because he works in an overwhelmingly white working environment at the bbc. uh, could he have a point, madeleine, that there's not enough diversity at the bbc when it comes to skin colour ? it comes to skin colour? >> well, the bbc's chief >> well, i think the bbc's chief problem is one of diversity of thought diversity thought and diversity of opinion. there is a real opinion. i think there is a real inherent kind of liberal bias and often stories are not commissioned because people at the bbc aren't even aware of this bias, so they wouldn't think certain think to commission certain things things framed in a things or things are framed in a certain it's often certain way. it's often very subtle. mean, obviously subtle. i mean, obviously i can't experience. can't this is his experience. i've never tried to say that. it's not like true or valid, but
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it's not like true or valid, but i just think that if you are in a country that is 82% white, finding , if you're in finding, if you're in a situation where you are the only non—white person that this is a matter of mental health and great anguish, i would suggest that's not a healthy way of looking at society because statistically speaking , it's statistically speaking, it's likely that from time to time you will surrounded by white you will be surrounded by white people not evidence of people and it's not evidence of some racist conspiracy. that's just you know, that's just the nature of this country. >> amy, i wonder what you'll say on this. so you're going to say something surprise something that might surprise me is it a little racist to is it a little bit racist to suggest that being around too many your office many white people in your office is bad for your mental health? >> what he said was not racist because let's look at the context and let's look at the intention. the intention not intention. the intention was not to or to be prejudiced or discriminatory any way. it discriminatory in any way. it was it was at a journalism event for underrepresent rented groups to open up a discussion about diversity . we do have a problem diversity. we do have a problem with underrepresent station because in journalism, because there are still so many barriers
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, which i'm sure we've all faced unpaid internships, very low wages . you have to be expected wages. you have to be expected to live in the city at the beginning of your career. and i think he was trying open up a think he was trying to open up a discussion about that, but rather clumsy. >> i agree. i agree. it's really affecting me that i walk in and all see is white people. all i see is white people. >> i guess what he's doing, it's a bit mean, isn't it? but his intention, being really intention, if we're being really fair, he expects gerard generous 7 fair, he expects gerard generous ? yeah, generous. i just feel bad that because he's done quite a lot for conversations around diversity and if we are going to progress and address this problem, we do need to talk about it. >> and amy, you make just you make really good point about make a really good point about these internships and these unpaid internships and people having live in the people having to live in the centre it's the centre of cities, but it's the centre of cities, but it's the centre of cities that are more diverse than the rest of the country, proportionately , he was country, proportionately, he was speaking from the speaking genuinely from the heart at a for conference young journalists. >> so to take the comments completely out of context , it's completely out of context, it's a bit frustrating because i think he was bringing up
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something that is a valid concern. well, i think if anything, if you're speaking to young journalists at the very beginning of their career, you have careful rather have to be more careful rather than you than less careful because you don't want to demoralise people. >> create a sense that it's >> and create a sense that it's all hideous . people are all hideous. people are horrible. people are vile. you will be you will feel like an outsider. that doesn't seem outsider. yeah that doesn't seem to very inspiring. and to me very inspiring. and actually , tom, your point about actually, tom, your point about the make up of cities, i think that's that's also very important. if we only discuss race, we ignore socioeconomic background and class, which is obviously not instantly visible from seeing somebody. that's where the barriers are. >> and this is something that i wanted to bring up. >> obviously, sometimes that is associated with race, but it's not always associated race. not always associated with race. >> think because certain >> i think it's because certain races disproportionately races are disproportionately represented within those socio within socio economic. within a lower socio economic. >> yeah, exactly as i but personality. >> but i just. yeah i feel sorry. i feel bad for you. >> feel sorry for him because he's blown up but he did make very controversial because he's bringing also
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bringing up something and also i'm needs i'm not sure it needs addressing. sure if i addressing. i'm not sure if i think bbc has made lot of think the bbc has made a lot of attempts more diverse in attempts to be more diverse in terms of ethnicity. yeah more so than other businesses and other organisations. >> also that if you are someone who's working for the state broadcaster later, then you do have a kind of perhaps unofficial responsibility to be fairly representative and not say things that are going to be incredibly divisive you incredibly divisive because you are in receipt of taxpayers money. the licence fee is what pays for you to do what you do be considered divisive . i think be considered divisive. i think a people would consider a lot of people would consider it extremely divisive. it to be extremely divisive. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> to flip it. >> if we were to flip it. >> if we were to flip it. >> if a white person said, >> what if a white person said, i don't like being too i don't like being around too many people, know many black people, but you know that the that that's simplifying the whole argument because there isn't systemic racism against white people. >> so it's a completely different sentiment. >> let's say a white person , he >> let's say a white person, he he have helped himself he he could have helped himself by just saying, when i walk in, i see enough brown and i don't see enough brown and black that would have black faces that would have sorted it out. >> yeah, it's the use of saying and we wouldn't talking and then we wouldn't be talking about it today. we probably would. i think we'd be
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would. but i think we'd be kinder to him. >> what were you going >> nadine, what were you going to say? >> can't remember >> i can't even remember to say. >> i can't even remember to say. >> know, i >> let's move on. i know, i know. >> i what i was going >> i know what i was i was going to just that if a to say. it's just that if a white in a country to say. it's just that if a white was in a country to say. it's just that if a white was predominantlyyuntry to say. it's just that if a white was predominantly ofitry which was predominantly of someone different someone of a different ethnicity, would odd someone of a different eththem would odd someone of a different eththem to would odd someone of a different eththem to say, .d odd someone of a different eththem to say, oh, odd someone of a different eththem to say, oh, i odd someone of a different eththem to say, oh, i feel odd someone of a different eththem to say, oh, i feel sod for them to say, oh, i feel so outnumbered bad for my outnumbered and it's bad for my mental i think you just mental health. i think you just say, right, i live in you know, nigeria not nigeria or india. it's not entirely i'm entirely shocking if i'm occasionally the only white person . it'sjust occasionally the only white person . it's just it's person around. it's just it's just that sounds an just numbers that sounds an awful lot common sense . no, awful lot like common sense. no, maddie, racism . maddie, no, it's racism. >> diverse community. everyone deserves to have representation at all levels of all businesses. surely okay surely not. okay >> i think all levels of is doing pretty terms of in doing pretty well in terms of in terms of that. but we could do better. >> but there is a there is a linking story to this, which is an ofcom study that has come out in the last 24 hours suggesting that working class audiences, perhaps these people that might feel most underrepresented are underrepresented, say that the bbc is now too politically correct and lacking in
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unvarnished opinion. >> they've raised the lack of people like jeremy clarkson on the screens of the bbc, ricky gervais's, also ricky gervais . gervais's, also ricky gervais. and the research found that the broadcaster is considered out of touch on the portrayal of working class characters as well . is there a class issue at the bbc? >> yes, i think there is a big a big one. i think there is this general balance towards a sort of soft liberal bias and also an urban leaning over rural. it's one of many things that isn't isn't isn't accounted for. and actually, if you go back over previous decades shows that were about working class people were much less kind of preachy and showing people in gritty environments. it was much more humorous, funny be a bit more light hearted perhaps, and actually a lot of the documentaries on the bbc have become very solemn and preachy as well. i don't think that it's got that same lightness of touch
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that it might have had. i'm not sure. it'sjust that it might have had. i'm not sure. it's just the bbc, though. >> i think it's sort of our culture has kind of gone a bit that way depending on whether it's stand up comedy , for it's stand up comedy, for example. everyone's sort of treading on eggshells over sanitising . i can't say it's all sanitising. i can't say it's all kind of sanitised. yeah, because everyone's worried about saying the wrong thing, putting a foot wrong. you share that wrong. do you do you share that view? can you see that? why wrong. do you do you share that view? cmighti see that? why wrong. do you do you share that view? (might feel that? why wrong. do you do you share that view? (might feel that way?' wrong. do you do you share that vieii? (might feel that way?' wrong. do you do you share that vieii don'tjht feel that way?' wrong. do you do you share that vieii don't thinkzl that way?' wrong. do you do you share that vieii don't think so hat way?i wrong. do you do you share that vieii don't think so hatall. y?i >> i don't think so at all. i think we're just getting bit >> i don't think so at all. i think socially st getting bit >> i don't think so at all. i think socially aware ing bit >> i don't think so at all. i think socially aware with bit >> i don't think so at all. i think socially aware with with more socially aware with with what . but can i talk what we consume. but can i talk about social about that? the social class issue? makes me think issue? because it makes me think of the programming and of the of the programming and like the 2010s when we all dined out this of poverty porn out on this kind of poverty porn type tv shows and they were the majority britain majority benefits. britain exactly. britain. i exactly. benefits britain. i think one thing that the bbc does exceptionally well is does pieces into poverty in pieces looking into poverty in a very in a responsible way that i don't think other programmers and networks have done historically. so i don't i don't think that the bbc. i think it would be insulting to the
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audience to suggest that that there is a bias in within the social class. i don't know. but but was this from viewers? >> you said, well, this is this is survey and the is an ofcom survey and the perhaps perhaps the viewers is perhaps perhaps the viewers is perhaps the most interesting thing . thing. >> only 55% of people from working class and lower income households had a positive view of the bbc, compared to 67% of middle class professionals . middle class professionals. >> so there is a gap in perceptions between people of lower economic status. >> often their solution to this is very patronising. they think, oh well, bbc4 that's that's for our middle class enlightened audience. and they talk in very snobby like ke2 kd1 snobby tones about like ke2 kd1 or whatever they're called. >> c2. d yes. »- >> c2. d yes. >> c2. d yes. >> c2 and you know what i'm talking about. they, they think that the way to attract a lower socioeconomic backgrounds or whatever, however they would phrase it, is to have dumbed down programming, which just insults everybody, you know, like radio four is for the middle class people. and then we've three for the
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we've got like bbc three for the plebs bbc three is mostly rubbish. i be fair, i must be >> i to be fair, i must be a pleb because i do enjoy the odd bbc and i won't hear a word about rupaul's drag race, so be frank. anyway, someone has appeared on our sofa. >> he's gay. was he invited ? >> he's gay. was he invited? he's crashed the show. no, i have just a quick one. >> okay. very quickly , just to >> okay. very quickly, just to say something. >> i've got coming up at 10:30 pm. tonight, it's a big p.m. tonight, it's a big exclusive. it is. nigel farage is not so secret now girlfriend law with her first ever television interview . she hits television interview. she hits back at some of the false things that have been written in the press recently . press recently. >> she also gives her verdict on nigel in camp and also talks nigel in the camp and also talks about their private life, their personal life. >> in fact, we've got a little bit a heads up on a couple of things. >> i think i've been reading all sorts , nonsensical sorts of, you know, nonsensical articles about me being a secret girlfriend . i'm not secret. i'm girlfriend. i'm not secret. i'm here. you know, i'm here. i work for nigel farage. >> and he appointed me at these, you know, well paid . and i
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you know, well paid. and i didn't never did that never worked for him. but i'm not saying he's he is going to do it. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> but would be. he be >> but he would be. he would be a good minister. i would >> but he would be. he would be a g(that. minister. i would >> but he would be. he would be a g(that. iiinister. i would >> but he would be. he would be a g(that. i think r. i would >> but he would be. he would be a g(that. i think he would say that. and i think he would do at do a good job at it. >> okay. that interview is >> okay. so that interview is split two parts and the split into two parts and the first part goes out at 10:30 pm. tonight. p.m. tonight. >> it's very revealing . and like >> it's very revealing. and like i said, she hits back a lot of the false allegations and claims that have been levelled at her. >> nigel in the media since >> and nigel in the media since he into the is world he went into the is it world exclusive, nigel exclusive, isn't it, that nigel farage get a girlfriend? farage can get a girlfriend? >> oh, no, don't have to do >> oh, no, you don't have to do that. >> well, laura is. >> well, laura is. >> the rumours , just how >> of the big rumours, just how many he's had . many girlfriends he's had. >> i'm joking. i'm joking. >> no, i'm joking. i'm joking. i love he's one and only love it. he's one and only girlfriend. talking to girlfriend. we'll be talking to us tonight at 10:30 pm. >> and some of those rumours that she hits back at. >> so there you go . >> so there you go. >> so there you go. >> i will be tuning in diligently . diligently. >> no, absolutely. >> no, absolutely. >> you ask her? >> what you ask her? >> what you ask her? >> because it has been a >> no, because it has been a very thing, because you very spicy thing, because you wouldn't that nigel wouldn't have thought that nigel farage at the farage would be the man at the centre of a number of allegations and sort of scandals or what people presume in that
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way. but no hearing the answers to will be to those that will be fascinating juicy, will to those that will be faswatching juicy, will to those that will be faswatching and juicy, will to those that will be faswatching and listeningiill to those that will be faswatching and listening to. be watching and listening to. >> britain. >> good afternoon, britain. thank you for tuning in. we'll see monday . it's martin see you on monday. it's martin daubney next, a brighter outlook with boxed solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the cold spell will continue through this weekend and the risk of some icy conditions tonight and tomorrow and tonight and tomorrow morning and a patches as well. low a few fog patches as well. low pressure continues to dominate, but there's not a lot of isobars on the charts, so it's too not windy, but the breeze is coming down from north, bringing down from the north, bringing the cold air and it will be a cold night tonight wherever we've got showers over parts of eastern england, southwest scotland or northern scotland, there is the chance things there is the chance of things turning those showers turning icy and those showers will some snow mixed in. will have some snow mixed in. we'll also have watch out for we'll also have to watch out for some fog patches over the midlands. parts of midlands. eastern parts of england could be quite dense. those fog patches and
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temperatures 3 or 4 temperatures widen 3 or 4 degrees freezing , and degrees below freezing, and that's in towns and cities. rural spots even lower. so a hard frost in the morning still a potential for some icy conditions as well . and some conditions as well. and some thick, fog patches, thick, stubborn fog patches, particularly over the midlands , particularly over the midlands, could take most of the day to clear a few more showers coming into southwest scotland and there'll be a mixture of rain, sleet and snow, rain sleet and snow, mostly rain showers wales and southwest showers for wales and southwest england. but most places actually a fine actually just having a fine bright cold winter's day with temperatures struggling to get much above 1 or degrees. for much above 1 or 2 degrees. for most of us could see a little bit more rain, sleet and snow coming in across the midlands. southern saturday southern england on saturday night. slowly clear night. that'll slowly clear away. to the away. then down to the south—west, more wet weather pushes in the day. that pushes in late in the day. that could also have some snow mixed in it stays dry in further north. it stays dry and bright for the most part, but pretty much everywhere. cold looks are heating up. >> box boilers , sponsors of >> box boilers, sponsors of weather
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