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hanukkah as part of the jewish hanukkah celebrations because they didn't want to i quote , inflame want to i quote, inflame tensions will today. want to i quote, inflame tensions will today . they've tensions will today. they've seen sense and rowed back on that. but should they have even cancelled it in the first place? what on earth were they thinking? and get this, almost half of new joiners to the nursing register in 2022 to 2023 were from overseas, mainly countries like nigeria and ghana, which, by the way, is supposedly on a so—called red list, meaning we shouldn't be purchasing their health care staff at all. i'm asking what do you think towards doing this? is it or not? and snow it ethical or not? and snow time, baby , which means you time, baby, which means you guessed it, schools are closed. weather warnings and traffic chaos. why on earth can we not handle the white stuff in this country? and do you have your christmas tree up yet? if so, send me a picture and i'll try and squeeze them in to the program before we finish . yes, program before we finish. yes, we have got a lot to get stuck
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into tonight, but before we do, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> thanks, michel. it's 601. our top stories tonight . the prime top stories tonight. the prime minister says the world needs to do more to tackle climate change. addressing the cop26 summit in dubai, rishi sunak urged major polluting countries to follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions. he also announced £1.6 billion for international climate finance and promised that the government's green policies will not hurt taxpayers pockets . not hurt taxpayers pockets. >> the kingdom is totally committed to net zero the paris agreement and to keeping 1.5 alive. that's why we've decarbonised faster than any other major economy . our 2030 other major economy. our 2030 target. it means the deepest cuts of any major emitter . and cuts of any major emitter. and we're determined to deliver . cuts of any major emitter. and we're determined to deliver. but instead of putting more pressure
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on working people, we're choosing a pragmatic new approach . we're ramping up approach. we're ramping up renewables and embracing the opportunities of technology and green industry . green industry. >> labour leader sir keir starmer is also in dubai for that summit. he says the government's pledges fall far short . short. >> every country needs to do more across the globe and that includes the uk. we have done some good things but we need to lead by the power of example, not use that as a reason for going no further. this is a huge obugafion going no further. this is a huge obligation for britain because many people watching this will be struggling with their bills as they want their energy bills to go down. quite understandably , the only way they go down for goodisif , the only way they go down for good is if we transition to renewables . renewables. >> king charles is also at the wmmw >> king charles is also at the summit. he says the hope of the world rests on decisions taken by those at the gathering . by those at the gathering. >> with what we are witnessing,
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our choice now is a starker and darker one. how dangerous are we actually prepared to make our world and dealing with this is a job for us all. change will come by working together and making it easier to embrace decisions that will sustain our world right ? rather than carry on as right? rather than carry on as though there are no limits . though there are no limits. >> well, while in dubai, the prime minister was asked about the row with greece over the elgin marbles, he denied throwing what's been described as a hissy fit after cancelling as a hissy fit after cancelling a bilateral meeting with his greek counterpart earlier this week, rishi sunak said that greece needs to accept that the uk does own the ancient sculptures. but athens is arguing that they were acquired illegally by israel . defence illegally by israel. defence forces say they've struck over 200 terror targets since hamas
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violated the terms of a pause in fighting locations in the north and the south of gaza have been hit, including operation command centres the week long truce collapsed after hamas fired a rocket in the early hours of this morning. mediators from qatar and egypt are working to try to continue the release of hostages . us secretary of state hostages. us secretary of state antony blinken says that israel had no choice but to retaliate , had no choice but to retaliate, but it came to an end because of hamas . hamas. >> hamas reneged on commitments it made. in fact, even before the pause came to an end, it committed an atrocious terrorist attack in jerusalem , killing attack in jerusalem, killing three people, wounding others, including americans. it began firing rockets before the pause had ended. >> the former health secretary says he was warned back in april of 2020 about the need for focussed covid testing in care homes . matt hancock told the uk homes. matt hancock told the uk covid 19 inquiry that there was not as much testing in care homes as many would have wanted
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because the uk simply did not have enough tests . he also said have enough tests. he also said the rule of six and tier bs didn't go far enough to help stop the spread of the virus. mr hancock accused former pm boris johnson being unwilling to go johnson of being unwilling to go further in terms of national restrictions in the autumn of 2020 and said the government should have acted more swiftly . should have acted more swiftly. members of aslef have voted over willingly to continue strike action for the next six months in their ongoing dispute over pay- in their ongoing dispute over pay. the announcement comes as members at 16 train companies are refusing to work overtime. that's from today until next saturday. the companies said they will operate as many trains as possible, but some areas may have no services. the union has blamed the government for not negotiating . meanwhile, the rail negotiating. meanwhile, the rail delivery group says drivers have been offered a £5,000 pay rise, which would take their salaries to £65,000 a year . this which would take their salaries to £65,000 a year. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying
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play gb news. now let's get back to . michelle to. michelle >> thanks for that rain . >> thanks for that rain. michelle jubrin. i'm with you till 7:00 tonight right on this friday. keeping me company. i've got my panel. conservative peer launch , lord shaun bailey and launch, lord shaun bailey and the broadcaster, firefighter and trade unionist, paul embry. good evening to both you. you're very welcome. tonight and you know the drill as well. it's not just about us three. it's very much about us three. it's very much about you guys at home. what's on your mind tonight that you can get in touch with me? all the usual ways? vaiews@gbnews.com can vaiews@gbnews.com or you can tweet me @gbnews lots coming up your way. i want to talk to you about nursing, about the weather. i want to talk to you about that ridiculous decision to cancel jewish celebrations because of fear of inflaming tensions . what's all that about? tensions. what's all that about? and also about cop 22. but before i do , i do want to just before i do, i do want to just do a quick nod to a christmas tree. look, i've got my christmas jumper on tonight. i'm
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getting the spirit of it. getting into the spirit of it. and this christmas tree, it's been criticised. it's a christmas if you're christmas tree. if you're listening, not watching , it's listening, not watching, it's in kent. people are saying kent. actually people are saying it's awful and it desperately needs replacing . i've got to needs replacing. i've got to say, i don't know why that's being called one of the worst christmas trees. i think it looks all right. >> dreadful. what's wrong with it? from what i see, it? i mean, from what i can see, it's got the minimum of decorations. got decent decorations. it's got no decent baubles. no fairy or baubles. it's got no fairy or star at the top. it's got no presence around the bottom. absolutely shocking example of a christmas tree . christmas tree. >> so it's a case of local pride. if that's how your council represents you, you have to think carefully about how they feel about it. >> might muster in hull. >> might pass muster up in hull. is sort of you're is that the sort of thing you're used to hull? used to in hull? >> well, you know, i just >> well, i you know, i just think beggars choosers. think beggars can't be choosers. any quite frankly, would think beggars can't be choosers. any a quite frankly, would think beggars can't be choosers. any a smile ite frankly, would think beggars can't be choosers. any a smile on frankly, would think beggars can't be choosers. anya smile on myikly, would think beggars can't be choosers. anya smile on my face.vould put a smile on my face. >> the council be put >> the council should be put into measures for that into special measures for that grotesque. and it's not the tree's fault, by the way. >> there's wrong with the >> there's nowt wrong with the tree, it? it's the stuff tree, is it? it's the stuff that's on it. i've been asking you if you've your you guys if you've got your trees into me. i'll
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trees up, get them into me. i'll be sharing some. be be sharing some. i'll be peppenng be sharing some. i'll be peppering through, peppering them the program. i've them through the program. i've not my teeth in tonight. not got my teeth in tonight. you can friday. got not got my teeth in tonight. you can christmas'iday. got not got my teeth in tonight. you can christmas jumper got not got my teeth in tonight. you canchristmas jumper giit's not got my teeth in tonight. you can christmas jumper giit's all my christmas jumper on. it's all going to my head anyway. look, this is mick's tree in enfield. let me have look at this. i do let me have a look at this. i do like good old nosey. like having a good old nosey. see what you've going on see what you've all got going on in your house. oh look at in your house. oh yeah. look at that. oh like it. look nice. that. oh i like it. look nice. that's like a traditional that's like a nice traditional one. got a. yeah, one. is it? it's got a. yeah, that's a showing. that's that's a good showing. that's a good showing. i'm led to believe there was a cat cat's litter tray on there but it was cropped out for the purposes of television. out for the purposes of telev i ion. out for the purposes of televi got next? clare and cork. have i got next? clare and cork. oh, that's. that's impressive. that's impressive. i'll tell you what like that. if what else i like about that. if you're listening, you just have to it. they're to take our word for it. they're very good. you've got nice very good. you've got a nice brown seat going brown reclining seat thing going on back. you see that? on in the back. you see that? >> you might be looking at a tree, a living room. tree, not a living room. oh, i like it. >> deborah. what we've got. what's deborah got going on in her house? oh, yes. >> oh, look at. >> oh, look at. >> look at that. deborah's >> oh, look at that. deborah's gone pink like pink. gone with. is it pink like pink. gold is that what we've got the thing very bling.
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gold is that what we've got the thiri'm very bling. gold is that what we've got the thiri'm not very bling. gold is that what we've got the thiri'm not sure bling. gold is that what we've got the thiri'm not sure llike. gold is that what we've got the thiri'm not sure [like the >> i'm not sure i like the different. i mean, green is traditional green trees are green. >> she needs to hired to put >> she needs to be hired to put some baubles on that tree. >> indeed she could. she could certainly share some hers certainly share some of hers because, is because, i mean, that is overloaded. put a overloaded. if she put a fraction of those. >> i mean, could she could >> i mean, she could she could probably take half of off probably take half of them off and one would notice. and no one would notice. >> she from? oh, don't know. >> where's clare from. >> where's clare from. >> looks like a very essex >> that looks like a very essex christmas tree. >> oh essex. stereotype. does >> oh essex. oh stereotype. does the boy. the essex boy. >> essex boy. that's how i know. squeeze one more in. >> is jim's. oh, look >> jim, this is jim's. oh, look at jim. at that. this is jim. >> it? >> jim, isn't it? >> jim, isn't it? >> did get in touch and he >> jim did get in touch and he said, to fair to >> jim did get in touch and he said, to fairto him, he >> jim did get in touch and he said, to fair to him, he took said, to be fair to him, he took that afternoon feels that this afternoon and he feels the tree looks better now that it's dark. so i'll take your word jim but anyway, word for that. jim but anyway, i think looks right it think it looks all right as it is actually a nice bit of tin. it like a real one on the it looks like a real one on the end. definitely end. yeah, it's definitely a real nice going real one. nice tree going on there top. anyway keep there at the top. anyway keep your coming in. your tree pictures coming in. i'll a few more i'll try and squeeze a few more in before the end of the program, an program, shall i? why not? is an early all, isn't early christmas after all, isn't it? and yes, i'm listening early christmas after all, isn't it? lguyses, i'm listening early christmas after all, isn't it? lguys at i'm listening early christmas after all, isn't it? lguys at homestening early christmas after all, isn't it? lguys at home;te|well. i've you guys at home as well. i've already you're
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already said to me what you're doing, getting up so doing, getting your trees up so early. you are having early. some of you are having absolutely it. so we'll absolutely none of it. so we'll come the end come on to that before the end of but look, it's of the program. but look, it's cop 28. let's play a little bit of would call with my of what i would call with my child. if you're child. where's wally? if you're familiar with that book, let's have see if we can see have a look, see if we can see our prime minister, shall we? in in one. in this picture, any one. i mean, glasses mean, i've got my glasses on, i've glasses on and i am i've got my glasses on and i am struggling. don't if struggling. i don't know if we've circled on we've got him circled on this picture zoom in picture or if we can zoom in mind you, he is tiny might mind you, he is tiny so he might be but just be at the front, but just standing he's he's standing behind he's not he's not back basically. he not is at the back basically. he i sides i think towards one of the sides and think probably at the and i think it's probably at the back. a lot of people are saying that should sunak at that they should rishi sunak at the the the back because basically the uk nonentity now. but the back because basically the uthink nonentity now. but the back because basically the uthink it's nonentity now. but the back because basically the uthink it's justionentity now. but the back because basically the uthink it's just because now. but the back because basically the uthink it's just because of w. but i think it's just because of a height they've height issue and that they've put stage. put him on the stage. >> i know where he is. >> i think i know where he is. i think he's in. know why. in think he's in. i know why. in david pocket. that's david cameron's pocket. that's where he no one can see him. >> e-l >> i'll tell you why he's at the back, nobody what back, because nobody cares what we're about climate change. >> e you see, f" >> well, so you see, this leads me mr bailey, lord me nicely by mr bailey, lord bailey. we should you, bailey. we should call you, shouldn't down? bailey. we should call you, shouldn should down? bailey. we should call you, shouldnshould call down? bailey. we should call you, shouldn should call me own? bailey. we should call you, shouldn should call me sean, but >> you should call me sean, but look. >> right. ultimately, you've >> right. so ultimately, you've had talking had king charles now talking out. we out. he's basically saying we can he can question whether or not he
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should be involved in this in a second. but he's basically saying way track and saying we're way off track and you've got kind of you've got people kind of criticise whole criticise saying the whole get together cop28 anyway because together of cop28 anyway because you're heading off there in you're all heading off there in your private etcetera, with your private jets etcetera, with not care for the world when it not a care for the world when it comes emissions while comes to your emissions while simultaneously lecturing us on ours. you make to all of this? >> look, let's separate a couple of things out. firstly, the idea that britain's a world leader. nobodyin that britain's a world leader. nobody in china or america or india would really matter cares a jot . what are they doing? they a jot. what are they doing? they simply they've made no simply don't. they've made no changes back the fact changes on the back of the fact that we have the that we are leading. we have the first, second and third and fourth farms in the fourth biggest wind farms in the world. we generated over 50% of our power in renewables that hasn't changed any of their behaviour. but it's done, hasn't changed any of their behcostjr. but it's done, hasn't changed any of their behcost usbut it's done, hasn't changed any of their behcost us an it's done, hasn't changed any of their behcost us an awfulit's done, hasn't changed any of their behcost us an awfulit's ofne, it's cost us an awful lot of money. now i believe we should do these renewable do some of these renewable things, do things, but we should do it at a decent pace shouldn't decent pace and we shouldn't live this that we're live with this idea that we're helping see the helping everybody see the future. they don't care. they really, what really, really don't care what we're are less less we're doing. we are less less than of emissions in the than 1% of emissions in the world. if turned off all the world. if we turned off all the lights now, nobody lights right now, today, nobody would notice and nobody would care. selling it the care. so stop selling it to the british we be
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british people that we should be spending billions of our tax money the rest of the money to help the rest of the world because it's not true. >> this is in >> i know. but this mantra is in everybody's manifestos , everybody's manifestos, including, of course, the tories and labour. you're all obsessed with this. >> it's nonsense. look look, we need a power system that helps us run our affairs cheaply. so we should have a mix of renewables based on nuclear so that we keep lights on. that we can keep the lights on. but keep telling people but while we keep telling people we're lead the we're doing this to lead the world, keep giving world, while we keep giving billions of taxpayers money to somehow up for technology somehow make up for technology that developed everybody , that is developed by everybody, i think wrong. and the i just think is wrong. and the idea we're some world idea that we're some world leader more time, nobody leader one more time, nobody cares what we're doing . cares what we're doing. >> harsh. >> harsh. >> no, hard to argue with it. actually. there is an awful lot of around this debate. actually. there is an awful lot of sean around this debate. actually. there is an awful lot of sean said, round this debate. actually. there is an awful lot of sean said, our|d this debate. actually. there is an awful lot of sean said, our emissions ate. as sean said, our emissions compared to china and the us are absolute paltry. you see the graphs . we're down there on the graphs. we're down there on the floor and china and the us are kind of up here. so there is a very limited impact that we can have. so you have to ask why are politicians just peddling this agenda ? not that i'm not green.
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agenda? not that i'm not green. you we want to better, you know, we all want to better, less polluted environment , but less polluted environment, but why doing it? arguably why are they doing it? arguably they're it because they they're doing it because they want , you know, preen on the want to, you know, preen on the world stage and they want to be seen you know, doing the seen as as you know, doing the right being right on right thing and being right on in terms of planet. but the in terms of the planet. but the problem posturing will problem is that posturing will have on ordinary have an impact on ordinary people when you people in this country. when you look net zero, look at the rush to net zero, for example , that is not without for example, that is not without consequence . it's okay if you're consequence. it's okay if you're rich, okay. you know, if rich, it's okay. you know, if you it. but if you're you can afford it. but if you're an ordinary person, you're an ordinary person, if you're someone fossil an ordinary person, if you're somiindustry, fossil an ordinary person, if you're somiindustry, particularly fossil an ordinary person, if you're somiindustry, particularly iffossil fuel industry, particularly if you're worried about that cliff edge transition and you're worried about what the future edge transition and you're worrie hold, jt what the future edge transition and you're worrie hold, jt you're he future edge transition and you're worrie hold, jt you're heworking might hold, if you're a working class going to be class person, what's going to be the electric cars and the cost of electric cars and heat pumps in the future? and whatever energy bills sky whatever with energy bills sky high at the moment and people suffering in terms the cost suffering in terms of the cost of crisis struggling suffering in terms of the cost of make crisis struggling suffering in terms of the cost of make crisismeet,truggling suffering in terms of the cost of make crisismeet, there ing suffering in terms of the cost of make crisismeet, there has to to make ends meet, there has to be a balance. and my fear in this debate isn't this whole debate is there isn't a balance terms of, on a balance there in terms of, on the one hand, wanting to be green wanting green and wanting to reduce pollution and fossil fuels and improve the environment , but improve the environment, but understanding the impacts on
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ordinary people. >> look at something >> and let's look at something that prime minister said >> and let's look at something that he'sime minister said >> and let's look at something that he's right.inister said >> and let's look at something that he's right. heter said >> and let's look at something that he's right. he saidaid >> and let's look at something that he's right. he said we're where he's right. he said we're going for going to need fossil fuels for many, many, many years to come. um, that how it's been um, but that isn't how it's been spoken and, and why this spoken about and, and why this is important we're talking is important. we're now talking about . so and that's about reparations. so and that's about reparations. so and that's a horrific word. so we're basically saying we have to transfer some wealth, transfer some of our wealth, which is generated which by the way, is generated by poor people here. by some very poor people here. we have to sell that to other people because of people in the world because of something that we did in the past. so let's very clear. past. so let's be very clear. the revolution was the industrial revolution was the the the entire world. the development capitalist development of capitalist technology has lifted more people out of poverty than anything else. so the idea that we somehow are guilty, i find actually quite offensive. but then so i mean, we all talk about china and we all know that china are one of the major polluters. >> but ultimately, one of the reasons for that is because so many people now outsource their manufacturing to china . so, i manufacturing to china. so, i mean, i dread to think of i go around looking at clothes, whatever items , and most of them whatever items, and most of them will now say made in china. so thatis will now say made in china. so that is one of the reasons that
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the emissions in china are so high. what could then high. so what you could then say, the flip side of it is right. i'll you what, let's right. i'll tell you what, let's bnng right. i'll tell you what, let's bring in bring our manufacturing back in house reduce house then. so that'll reduce china's everyone china's emissions. but everyone here will have pay a pretty here will have to pay a pretty penny more because to manufacture here is a damn sight more expensive. well hold on. >> i think we should bring our manufacturing >> i think we should bring our manufacturirbut let's >> i think we should bring our manufacturirbutlet's clear. people jobs. but let's be clear. if the manufacturing if we bring the manufacturing back, we then increase our emissions. point emissions. this is my point about this my emissions. this is my point aboutabout this my emissions. this is my point aboutabout emissions. my emissions. this is my point aboutabout emissions. we're all point about emissions. we're all unkedin point about emissions. we're all linked in a certain sense, and we need do stuff we all need to do our stuff because you could argue china manufactures more efficiently than people that than other people that could lower don't know. lower emissions. i don't know. but the point we but i go back to the point we are spending so much money on this we're talking about this now. we're talking about paying this now. we're talking about paying reparations . that should paying reparations. that should not until two things not happen until two things happen. keir not happen until two things happen. has keir not happen until two things happen. has to keir not happen until two things happen. has to tell keir not happen until two things happen. has to tell usieir not happen until two things happen. has to tell us what he's starmer has to tell us what he's going to do. it's all very well him finger we him wagging his finger saying we have what's he going have to do more. what's he going to going to pay for to do? who's going to pay for it? with the british public it? and with the british public should bit should be consulted a little bit more spent. more on the money being spent. >> labour through more on the money being spent. >> through._abour through more on the money being spent. >> through. what's through more on the money being spent. >> through. what's your:hrough and through. what's your guys going to do about it? >> oh, they're completely signed going to do about it? >> oithe ey're completely signed going to do about it? >> oithe neta completely signed going to do about it? >> oithe net zero npletely signed going to do about it? >> oithe net zero agenda. signed going to do about it?
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>> oithe net zero agenda. igned up to the net zero agenda. i mean, militant mean, they are militant environmentalists. that's the truth the truth of it. people on the left generally are we need what i call moderate environmental ism, and we're getting militant enviro mentalism. and that will impact people in the pocket. it's almost luxury belief it's almost like a luxury belief that as i said earlier, that people as i said earlier, can afford if they're affluent . can afford if they're affluent. but we have to balance these things about you what is things about, you know, what is going impact on going to be the impact on ordinary people . ordinary working class people. and the truth is, whether we like not, it is down the like it or not, it is down the list of priorities for working class yeah, they're class people. yeah, they're worried cost living worried about the cost of living crisis. worried about crisis. they're worried about nhs they're nhs waiting lists. they're worried a lack border worried about a lack of border control. they're worried about worried about a lack of border contand they're worried about worried about a lack of border contand they'rethey'red about worried about a lack of border contand they'rethey're worried law and order. they're worried about antisocial behaviour on their streets . they're worried their streets. they're worried about housing crisis . can about the housing crisis. can they, know, their kids get they, you know, their kids get on ladder you on the housing ladder when you say important say to them, look, the important of your life, where of net zero in your life, where does stand whether you does it stand then, whether you like it or not, it is not up there. it is not up there. and you lecture people about, you can't lecture people about, oh, you're not interested in saving the planet. people are under of under pressure. and because of that , it's not under pressure. and because of that, it's not something that they see as a priority and labour needs to take that into
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account rush to kind of account in this rush to kind of posture and look good posture and preen and look good amongst contemporaries and amongst their contemporaries and look good among liberal environmentalists . they have to environmentalists. they have to understand ordinary understand what our ordinary communities, working class communities, working class communities in post—industrial britain say in about net zero. and it's not very much. but when they do talk about it, they do like it a lot. >> let me throw it open to you guys how important is guys at home. how important is net you? for an net zero to you? because for an awful people i don't know awful lot of people i don't know if grandkids awful lot of people i don't know if whatever, grandkids awful lot of people i don't know if whatever, futureandkids awful lot of people i don't know if whatever, future ofikids awful lot of people i don't know if whatever, future of the; or whatever, the future of the climate and for it to be as well as possible is up there on your radar, isn't it? but then i think perhaps it's a separate thing when it comes to you. then as an individual having to fork out for that and or out and pay for that and or having life altered having your life altered as a consequence. me how consequence. tell me how important of this is to you. important all of this is to you. keep your christmas trees coming in well . steph nick cor in as well. steph and nick cor blimey, just sent me a blimey, they've just sent me a picture of their 14 foot christmas tree. 14 foot. i'll try and share that with you guys. apparently takes all guys. apparently takes them all day decorate. don't guys. apparently takes them all day that decorate. don't guys. apparently takes them all day that asecorate. don't guys. apparently takes them all day that as well. e. don't guys. apparently takes them all day that as well. try don't guys. apparently takes them all day that as well. try andt doubt that as well. try and share with you. 14 foot. share it with you. 14 foot. you've blown my mind anyway.
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i've need to i've got a lot that i need to bnng i've got a lot that i need to bring way lots bring in your way tonight. lots to about the break. to talk about after the break. havering council, right? they decided i don't know who decided this and why, but it's all about the celebration of hanukkah. they decided that they were going to stop the lighting of the menorah because they didn't want to, i quote, inflame tension is really, really . tell tension is really, really. tell me what you think to that.
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radio. >> hello there, michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight alongside . just broke my tonight alongside. just broke my ipad alongside me. paul embry and shaun bailey remain you guys have been telling me your christmas tree , sharing them christmas tree, sharing them with me. let's have a little look at a couple of them. this person, you didn't put your name there. anonymous how can you be anonymous with a like that? anonymous with a tree like that? that absolutely that is a beauty. i absolutely love it. look at this who's love it. look at this one. who's this one? oh, cor blimey. love it. look at this one. who's this one? oh, cor blimey . what this one? oh, cor blimey. what aslef is that?
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>> that is excellent . >> that is excellent. >> that is excellent. >> it's from tony. if you are listening . i think that's one of listening. i think that's one of the weirdest things i've ever seen. full a full life seen. it's a full a full life size skeleton . it looks like i'm size skeleton. it looks like i'm looking at this on a small frame , so forgive me if i'm getting it wrong. got a it wrong. has it got like a cigar or something his mouth? cigar or something in his mouth? >> christmas >> i said, father christmas obviously the obviously got stuck in the chimney years. it did chimney for a few years. it did remain. >> did. is it's unique. >> it did. that is it's unique. if i was going to give a prize for uniqueness, you would win that. never seen anything that. i've never seen anything quite it. that. i've never seen anything qui'they it. that. i've never seen anything qui'they should put that in >> they should put that in trafalgar square from now on instead of the one get from norway. >> i think that's scared children. punters, children. scared of punters, wouldn't one wouldn't it give like one more before move the stories. >> who's this? nice. yeah, nice . >> who's this? nice. yeah, nice. >> who's this? nice. yeah, nice. >> look at daniel. oh, that's good. daniel's >> listening and not >> are you listening and not watching very watching this is very traditional. say it's traditional. i would say it's very loud. >> the best one far. yeah >> the best one so far. yeah >> the best one so far. yeah >> can't say that >> best. we can't say that because the other because then all the other viewers offended. because then all the other vieilars offended. because then all the other vieilars like offended. because then all the other vieilars like theffended. because then all the other vieilars like the essex.i. >> i did like the essex. >> i did like the essex. >> don't care about that sort >> we don't care about that sort of have winners. >> we don't have winners. >> we don't have winners. >> care about causing >> we don't care about causing offence. we're all winners yeah. >> eh. enl- 9 thing as >> there's no such thing as winners. a tick in winners. everyone gets a tick in part. >> murman, everyone's a winner. gb news.
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>> murman, everyone's a winner. gb newsone was quite nice. if >> that one was quite nice. if you're it you're you're not seeing it and you're thinking, what's on about? you're not seeing it and you're thinkirquite at's on about? you're not seeing it and you're thinkirquite traditional. about? it was quite traditional. nice fireplace next to it. like it. fireplace next to it. i like it. keep them coming in. i'll keep sharing much as i can sharing them as much as i can throughout the program. we like sharing them as much as i can tibit ghout the program. we like sharing them as much as i can tibit ofout the program. we like sharing them as much as i can tibit of christmasygram. we like sharing them as much as i can tibit of christmas spirit, we like sharing them as much as i can tibit of christmas spirit, don't(e a bit of christmas spirit, don't we? caught my we? anyway a council caught my eye here in council. this is in london and they have now basically they came out yesterday and said that they were their display were going to stop their display of their hanukkah candles this year after a backlash or a potential feared backlash . this potential feared backlash. this was all down to the conflict in israel, gaza. they were saying that the lighting of these candles and menorah would perhaps inflame tensions is something that i then found very peculiar. is that what happened next was that the muslim association , lion of britain got association, lion of britain got involved because it really did get a huge reaction and response . as you can imagine, this council's decision, people were very, very, very upset about it. so i have to say i was quite pleased to see this. this was the muslim association of britain. they said there was concern. concerned concern. they were concerned about that about these reports that cancelling planned lighting
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cancelling the planned lighting of hanukkah menorah , they of the hanukkah menorah, they found it offensive to our jewish brothers and sisters. and i have to say, i agree with this bit massively. one should be massively. no one should be afraid practice, celebrate or afraid to practice, celebrate or express our express their faith in our country. menorah is country. a menorah is celebrating. jewish festival celebrating. a jewish festival will not inflame tensions and cause offence. and they were calling on the council to reconsider their decision and not help feed hate and anti—semitism in britain. anyway, they went on to say that they will offer their steward to ensure the smooth running and security at any events and they would stand shoulder to shoulder with british jews in the face of the scourge of anti—semitism. we'll here to that. anyway, we'll hear here to that. anyway, there's been some meetings had today different today with various different rabbis and jewish groups and now the council quite sensibly, if you ask me, they've u—turned on that decision and now said indeed that their plans will go ahead. now sean, you actually live in this council area, so what do you make to it all? >> there's two things i say. the council made an initial
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decision. i imagine decision. i would imagine in view the tension that view of all the tension that there's been london. so for there's been in london. so for viewers live in london viewers who don't live in london with marches, tommy with all the marches, tommy robinson arrested, people with all the marches, tommy robins(to arrested, people with all the marches, tommy robins(to be arrested, people with all the marches, tommy robins(to be arresoff,. people having to be pulled off, statues, the council statues, etcetera, the council are probably thinking of a small jewish in havering. jewish community in havering. we do to be focussed do not want them to be focussed on, attention. on, on or come under attention. so decision now so they made that decision now for the muslim council of britain say, look, we don't britain to say, look, we don't like i think correct like that. i think it's correct that their that that's certainly their stance on it. and one of the things that makes britain one of the greatest countries on the face of the planet is that you can whoever you like can worship whoever you like publicly well. maintain publicly as well. so to maintain that, important , that, i think it's important, but to support the but i have to support the council we a faith council here. we have a faith forum havering . the council forum in havering. the council has to them. they have has spoken to them. they have spoken local spoken to local rabbis, local priests, , and come to priests, etcetera, and come to an about but when an agreement about it. but when an agreement about it. but when a to reduce a council tries to reduce tension in the area, i think that's a correct thing to do. >> i mean, >> you see, i mean, there's a lot to unpick there. i mean, i don't know what the arrest of tommy got do with don't know what the arrest of torthe got do with don't know what the arrest of torthe fellow got do with don't know what the arrest of torthe fellow was got do with don't know what the arrest of torthe fellow was only do with don't know what the arrest of torthe fellow was only eating/ith it. the fellow was only eating his if you if you his breakfast, and if you if you ask mean, was ask me, i mean, that was an example finest example of one of the finest examples policing examples of two tier policing that for a long time.
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that i've seen for a long time. but because it's live court but because it's a live court case, i don't want to be done for court. so for contempt of court. so i can't get into that can't really get into that story. know, cannot story. but you know, you cannot wander society wander around in society threatening other people . right? threatening other people. right? you just can't. that's not what society is all about. and if people are going to do that or the potential to do that, the reaction from the council surely shouldn't be to change their ways. so, you know what to avoid them lot kicking off. we just not going to lie our candles. we're not going to do our celebrate ation because surely that's look, response from >> so look, the response from the council will always and should be to reduce should always be to reduce tension, keep people safe tension, to keep people safe locally. should we acquiesce locally. now should we acquiesce or not? but we have other or not? no. but we have other agencies. the police , for agencies. the police, for instance, with those instance, to deal with those sort things and the sort of things. and i know the council been council would have been confronted with community confronted with a community that is if you're jewish in is scared if you're jewish in london , you are terrified london now, you are terrified and the council wouldn't want to shine a light on you unless they felt that you were to prepared deal whatever came. deal with whatever came. and that's made that's why they probably made the course, the decision. of course, i wasn't there. just. wasn't there. i'm just. i'm just. just supposing what
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just. i'm just supposing what they but what i do they would do. but what i do like is that people have come together said, actually, together and said, no, actually, this ability in this is about the ability in this is about the ability in this worship whoever this country to worship whoever you i'm our you like. and i'm proud of our local for standing up local council for standing up for people and the for local people and also the local saying, we're local people saying, no, we're going this . going to deal with this. >> paul, think it was a bad, >> paul, i think it was a bad, bad, bad decision . there bad, bad, bad decision. there are always flashpoints in the world, in the middle east and elsewhere. india and pakistan are always at each other's throats over kashmir. i can't imagine the council would have banned you know , banned either, you know, something celebrating diwali , something celebrating diwali, something celebrating diwali, something associated with eid, for example . all in that for example. all in that particular case, i don't think they've probably done it in the past. whenever those flashpoints have as i say, have occurred as i say, flashpoints the east flashpoints in the middle east all somebody all the time. so somebody somewhere this somewhere sat and thought this is thing do , uh, is the right thing to do, uh, you know, to alienate effective the jewish community and to make them, whether deliberately or otherwise, it probably wasn't intentional, but otherwise, it probably wasn't intentional , but nonetheless, to intentional, but nonetheless, to almost make them scapegoat for, you know, israel is doing you know, what israel is doing in gaza at the moment. and saying, because of israel saying, because of what israel is doing , you know, you're not
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is doing, you know, you're not going to to celebrate going to be able to celebrate what would normally what you would normally celebrate. they celebrate. i'm not saying they intended the intended that way, but the perception among jewish perception probably among jewish people was, hold on a second. they they they seem to be punishing us for what's going on over gaza . so it seems over there in gaza. so it seems to me no one really thought this through and it's had an impact on the jewish community. and i agree it's good the agree it's good to see the muslim association of britain come out and say, look, we'll steward it necessary to make steward it if necessary to make sure can go ahead. i'm sure that this can go ahead. i'm not particularly favour not particularly in favour generally kind of generally of councils kind of having a public policy where they promote different faiths and they promote different cultures. i mean, people of course are entitled to their faith culture. faith and to their culture. i don't understand why we make such a thing sometimes. i'm not talking about this incident particularly, country particularly, but as a country of promoting so much kind of separateness and difference. but then we get into the whole debate about multi culturalism and particularly state sponsored multiculturalism, whether it's a good thing, whether it's a bad thing, whether it brings people together or whether it fragments people, to
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people, i think it tends to fragment people, not that i don't believe that have don't believe that people have got the right to practice their faith. absolutely have. i faith. they absolutely have. i i disagree. two levels. >> of course, the state sponsored multiculturalism was a very left wing thing, which was was about dominant people's political space. but when it comes to faith, one of the things that this country has had a proud history of people of faith , always rubbing along faith, always rubbing along nicely together and actually are very at including people of very good at including people of no idea that faiths no faith. the idea that faiths in this country are actually each is simply each other's throat is simply isn't council isn't true, and that council should that, because should promote that, because for many communities, particularly should promote that, because for man place munities, particularly should promote that, because for man place as nities, particularly should promote that, because for man place as diverseyarticularly should promote that, because for man place as diverse of icularly should promote that, because for man place as diverse of london, in a place as diverse of london, faith is the first place that people can meet and have a community. so i'm very up for councils doing the same. schools do of stuff. do it all, all kinds of stuff. but to , uh, to, to the but i go back to, uh, to, to the council havering . i know that council in havering. i know that they wouldn't have done this to scapegoat the jewish community. what would have done what they would have done is thought very few jewish thought was very few jewish people with a small jewish community, be community, they could be vulnerable . there been vulnerable. there have been massive tensions in london. let's that tension. let's just lower that tension. >> but there wouldn't have been i mean , i know romford sean like
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i mean, i know romford sean like you do, wouldn't have been you do, there wouldn't have been tensions in havering. i'm pretty sure between i don't think there is a great big muslim community in havering. certainly when i live 6.2, yes, there was massive. >> that's the point . if you look >> that's the point. if you look at havering and right down into redbridge, not big as some. >> it's not as big as but it's very in london. in london, very big. >> very, very, very big. . >> very, very, very b|g. big. >> very, very, very big. and we've had traditional jewish we've had a traditional jewish community quite community there that isn't quite as big now. we've had little to no trouble at all in hundred jews in havering . and 6.2. jews in havering. and 6.2. >> so nought point 5% of the population in havering are jewish and 6.2 are muslim. yeah >> so again, the communities are of very different sizes. >> some london, but it's big enoughif >> some london, but it's big enough if you're the council, you don't care. >> rightly what happens >> rightly so. what happens elsewhere? your job is your ground and they would have just been imagine, let's been thinking, i imagine, let's make sure we don't have any flare up here. >> but the history of the place, if there had been marches in havering recent weeks or havering over recent weeks or months even years, if there months or even years, if there
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had tensions breaking out, had been tensions breaking out, if had been tensions breaking out, h been had been tensions breaking out, if been altercation if there had been altercation happens on the street, if there had been, you know, real conflicts between the muslim and jewish communities, i can understand that. then a council saying, , we probably need saying, look, we probably need to take the heat out of this thing. we want to do thing. we don't want to do anything incendiary, that anything that's incendiary, that inflames the situation in. but to , none of that to my knowledge, none of that sort stuff ever gone on sort of stuff has ever gone on in the idea that in havering. and the idea that i think community would think the muslim community would have would i'm not saying you're saying the way, but the saying this, by the way, but the idea the muslim community idea that the muslim community would idea that the muslim community w> you could be right. >> you could be right. >> why they've >> and that's why they've u—turned, honest, u—turned, let's be honest, they've because they they've u—turn because they realise they've they've u—turn because they realsome, they've they've they've u—turn because they realsome, they've u—turn1ey've they've u—turn because they realsome, they've u—turn because got some, they've u—turn because they've got some support and i wouldn't use the term u—turn. >> i hate that when a council is listened. politician listened. when a politician is listened, we say you turn to embarrassment. a embarrassment. they've made a different embarrassment. they've made a differen got some support. but embarrassment. they've made a diffypointot some support. but embarrassment. they've made a diffypointot s0|councilyort. but embarrassment. they've made a diffypointot s0|council all but the point is, a council all would wanting to not have would be wanting to not have something happen and that's the most important because once the genie is out the bottle, the genie is out of the bottle, the council in all council would have been in all kinds people have
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kinds of trouble. people have been all kinds of pressure. been in all kinds of pressure. and when the spotlight gone, been in all kinds of pressure. an(inrhen the spotlight gone, been in all kinds of pressure. an(in havering;potlight gone, been in all kinds of pressure. an(in havering;potligistillgone, been in all kinds of pressure. an(in havering;potligistill have we in havering would still have to it. so to have dealt with it. so i still like the council made still feel like the council made the right decision in the beginning the beginning and they made the right decision. once they realised get realised they're going to get some realised they're going to get son but realised they're going to get sonbut just i don't agree with >> but i just i don't agree with what you're saying. so the what you're saying. so i get the concept saying, concept of what you're saying, which is the council want to keep everybody safe, and i get that. and it's a noble aim. good high five to everyone there. high five to all everyone there. but suggesting is but what you're suggesting is that the council there that the council sit there and 90, that the council sit there and go, there's risk go, right. so there's a risk here. let's not beat here. so let's let's not beat around were around the bush. what they were sitting is that sitting there saying is that they that is they fear that there is a collection of radical islamists that are going to take offence at this jewish celebration. that's what that's what the bottom line is. let's not beat around the they're around the bush. they're not terrified some random terrified that some random christian because it's not a christmas tree, is going to come and kick off at these lights. that's not what this is about. it's about people that got it's about people that have got the israel gaza the issue on the israel gaza conflict licked and that they're importing that conflict into these council's these streets. the council's then there and gone. right. then sat there and gone. right. there's . there's a there's this fear. there's a collection. must collection. they must think there's collection of radical
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there's a collection of radical islamists going to islamists that are going to damage celebration. islamists that are going to da|what celebration. islamists that are going to da|what they've celebration. islamists that are going to da|what they've cydoneition. islamists that are going to da|what they've cydone isyn. so what they've then done is they've cancelled the they've then cancelled the jewish celebration pander to jewish celebration to pander to those fanatics, which which just briefly , which just briefly is briefly, which just briefly is exactly what the fa did after the hamas attacks on the 7th of october with the with the israeli flag over the on the wembley stadium. >> and they specifically said the it was because of what the fa it was because of what the fa it was because of what the some people in the local community what their reaction would be to it. and let's be blunt, talking about blunt, they were talking about radical in brent or radical muslims in brent or wherever. there's point wherever. there's no point glossing that, their glossing over that, what their reaction it . and reaction would be to it. and they that basis not they decided on that basis not to to display the flag. and to not to display the flag. and the danger is when you get into backing down and not doing things would otherwise things that you would otherwise do public because do as a public body because you are that certain are worried that certain elements of the community are going to kick up, then you're giving in to that, into that. >> i'll tell you what, they should never do that. >> things. there's >> there's two things. there's two things i'd say to that. the council probably weren't sitting there muslims . how many people radical muslims. how many people want to those march? we've never
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they've never been anywhere near the quran they're just out to cause support cause trouble. they just support palestine suits them. cause trouble. they just support palesti|on suits them. cause trouble. they just support palesti|on left, suits them. cause trouble. they just support palesti|on left, largely, 1em. people on the left, largely, let's term , and let's use that term, and accounts we'd like accounts are thinking we'd like to this because to low profile this because actually like keep actually we like to keep our jewish communities safe. they could and find could be that. and it's i find it quite galling that people on the left will then say, well, you shouldn't be doing this. you shouldn't be doing that because we've kinds things we've had all kinds of things removed british removed from british society because don't removed from british society beceit.e don't removed from british society beceit.e being don't removed from british society beceit.e being one don't removed from british society beceit.e being one of don't like it. faith being one of them. you know, faith being one of them. can't it in of them. you can't do it in school. it anywhere school. you can't do it anywhere because people. because it might offend people. so council so the fact that the council well on. well, hang on. >> faith has removed >> what? faith has been removed from a school? oh my gosh. >> you, then give >> you, you. then i'll give you a example . teachers a classic example. teachers being school for being turfed out of school for wearing now is being wearing a cross. now is being having the same thing happen to them yeah. told they them. yeah. being told that they cannot keep their job they cannot keep their job if they want wear that cross. so want to wear that cross. so i feel i'm on who's the feel like i'm on who's the people that are offended by that? cross people on the left, people with no faith normally. and interesting in and what's really interesting in the reaction is the muslim councils reaction is not a surprise to me because they'll always say and consistently have said people of
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faith should be able to practice their faith. they've been very faith should be able to practice their aboutthey've been very faith should be able to practice their about that. ye been very good about that. >> preachers, know >> street preachers, you know preaching read in preaching from the bible read in particular verses are very likely to be carted off in a police van. so. so i think i think there's element think there's an element of truth actually. think there's an element of truti actually. think there's an element of truti ac' remember that very >> i do remember that very old fellow that was doing the bible reading, was and we talk reading, and he was and we talk about two tier policing. reading, and he was and we talk abothere'stier policing. reading, and he was and we talk abothere'stier element reading, and he was and we talk abothere'stierelement that reading, and he was and we talk abothon'stierelement that reading, and he was and we talk abothon'stierfaith,ent that reading, and he was and we talk abothon 'stierfaith, actually, it going on with faith, actually, when look at the when you look at you look at the treatment christians, which treatment of christians, which is the dominant religion still in which so in this country and which so much heritage is rooted much of our heritage is rooted in, and it's almost like , you in, and it's almost like, you know, you can't you can't demonstrate your christianity in an overt way without someone saying, hold on a second, you know, you'd be in reactionary or you'd be in hostile to other faiths you're being exclusive faiths or you're being exclusive at the same time, the same people are very, very happy to indulge in other faiths. precisely that is two tier. that is precisely. >> there you go . look. so that >> there you go. look. so that event has been reinstated now. so my mind anyway, credit to so in my mind anyway, credit to the council for reinstating it. also muslim also credit to the muslim association britain there association of britain there that say that they would that did say that they would stand shoulder to shoulder with
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their jewish stand shoulder to shoulder with theirjewish brothers stand shoulder to shoulder with their jewish brothers and sisters to help ensure that that event safely . next event does go ahead safely. next up, i want to talk to you about nurse many nurses now nurse ing. so many nurses now are coming the nhs from are coming to the nhs from so—called red list countries. so your , nigeria, etcetera . your ghana, nigeria, etcetera. what do you make to this? is this an ethical move on our part or not? see you .
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news radio. >> hi there , michelle dewberry >> hi there, michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 alongside me remains the conservative peer, lord shaun bailey and broadcaster firefighter and trade unionist paul embery . he trade unionist paul embery. he says, lord shaun bailey there. but you don't say it like that. you don't say it, john. it's lord. >> lord bailey. yeah. okay >> lord bailey. yeah. okay >> you could just call me sean . >> you could just call me sean. >> you could just call me sean. >> yeah, well, call you >> yeah, well, i'll call you sean. nice give sean. but it's just nice to give you. achievement a you. it's an achievement being a lord. yeah. i would be dining out like you wouldn't out on that like you wouldn't believe. want everyone out on that like you wouldn't believe me want everyone out on that like you wouldn't believe me orant everyone out on that like you wouldn't believe me or dame aryone out on that like you wouldn't believe me or dame orone to call me lady or dame or whatever it is that i'd be.
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>> got our viewers can't see, whatever it is that i'd be. >> sean's viewers can't see, whatever it is that i'd be. >> sean's gotners can't see, whatever it is that i'd be. >> sean's got his; can't see, whatever it is that i'd be. >> sean's got his valett see, whatever it is that i'd be. >> sean's got his valet just, but sean's got his valet just around the corner. >> just. >> 5 just camera, >> just off. just off camera, polishing during the polishing his shoes during the commercial stuff like that. >> well, look, we're having some deepen >> well, look, we're having some deeper, meaningful debates here. we've been talking about cop and climate multiculturalism climate change, multiculturalism and all the rest of it. but the only thing that you guys seem to want to to about tonight only thing that you guys seem to w¢youry to about tonight only thing that you guys seem to w¢your trees. to about tonight only thing that you guys seem to w¢your trees. and about tonight only thing that you guys seem to w¢your trees. and aboilovingjht is your trees. and i am loving it. let's have a little look. bringing couple oh, bringing a couple of more. oh, yeah. oh this is anthony. anthony. if you're listening, not watching. i try and not watching. i do try and describe seeing. for describe what i'm seeing. for all listeners. we've all you radio listeners. we've got gone for got not one. he's gone for the double our anthony in double as our anthony you in between so that's there between yeah so that's you there on telly. yes it is is on the telly. yes it is that is me from that that would me apart from that that would have a perfect shot . oh have been a perfect shot. oh look. i have to put up look. see what i have to put up with? i don't come to work to get file get abused. i'm going to file a air i think . let's air complaint. i think. let's have a look. yes, anthony so we like let's have like that. tina let's have a look. oh, yes. tina. tina you see, tina, everyone's got to bearin see, tina, everyone's got to bear in mind that we're watching these pictures on a very tiny screen. but from i can see, screen. but from what i can see, you've got it's good photography. quite you've got it's good photophotography. quite you've got it's good photophotography. is quite you've got it's good photophotography. is thate
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good photography. and is that a little on the left? little santa thing on the left? is that santa? can we see? >> like santa. >> it looks like santa. >> it looks like santa. >> my glasses on and >> i've got my glasses on and a nice there. >> i've got my glasses on and a nic> i've got my glasses on and a nic> i've got my glasses on and a nic> oh, colonel sanders. >> oh, colonel sanders. >> yeah, we've got a nice clock. do you what can't. what do you know what i can't. what i found that before do you know what i can't. what i found on, that before do you know what i can't. what i found on, you've that before do you know what i can't. what i found on, you've gott before do you know what i can't. what i found on, you've got a)efore we move on, you've got a christmas like, christmas tree with, like, it looks gold lights. but the looks warm. gold lights. but the reflection is blue light. >> that's because it's the dark glass changing. the colour glass is changing. the colour temperature, is it? >> it's because she's so >> it's not because she's so posh that she's got multiple trees up the background. i mean, she do, but it >> i mean, she could do, but it just it's reflected just looks like it's reflected off dark glass. >> right? >> right? >> well, knows stuff. >> well, he knows his stuff. he's photographer. he's an amateur photographer. >> is a school day, >> every day is a school day, right. next one, then. oh, stephanie's. is nice. we've stephanie's. this is nice. we've got stephanie has gone for multi—coloured lights today. we've got none of this warm , um, we've got none of this warm, um, gold lighting there. she's gone all in with a burst of colour. and i like it. she's got a nice reflection. what is that on the top? is that an angel i spy? is it an angel? i'm going go for it an angel? i'm going to go for angel it an angel? i'm going to go for angel. an angel with a angel. is it an angel with a nice reflection. there. the nice reflection. there. off the light as well. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> like that is the. i >> it looks like that is the. i mean, i think she's done. there is on the right that mimics the
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star that the wise men followed. that's what's going on there. >> nice. slipped in >> that's nice. she's slipped in a a nativity there. a bit of a nativity there. >> yeah. a bit of a nativity there. >> ieah. it. >> i like it. >> i like it. >> i like it. >> i like it . well, keep your >> i like it. well, keep your trees coming in. i'm going to say your trees coming. say keep your trees coming. you don't my don't need any encouragement. my inbox. you about inbox. i'm talking to you about so much . so much variety of so much. so much variety of stuff tonight . my inbox is stuff tonight. my inbox is literally just sea of literally just a sea of christmas trees. i absolutely love in fact, actually, i love it in fact, actually, i think i'm to make a think i'm going to make it a thing from on thing every friday from here on in christmas, is, in till christmas, which is, what, fridays what, three, four fridays have we ? bring your we got? i'll bring in your christmas trees every friday, shall i? we'll we'll shall i? we'll do that. we'll rattle as we rattle through as many as we can. now, let's talk can. but for now, let's talk nursing, we? because nursing, shall we? because thousands nurses from thousands now of nurses from so—called list countries so—called red list countries have registered to work have been registered to work here in the uk over this last yeah here in the uk over this last year. now we all know, don't we, that ultimately we're struggling in lots of regards to staff , that ultimately we're struggling in lots of regards to staff, our nhs. but this whole notion that actually going to actually you're going to proactively pulling resource actually you're going to proacpooreroulling resource actually you're going to proacpoorer countriessource actually you're going to proacpoorer countries thate from poorer countries that really do need their health care staff, is that ethical on our part ? part? >> i think i've always thought it's unethical and this proud
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boast nhs is staffed by boast that the nhs is staffed by lots of immigrants. the dark underside of is those many underside of that is those many of countries have of those countries have had their best whipped their brightest and best whipped away. they've made their their their health system have to compete with our health system, which has much more money in it. and thought that is which has much more money in it. aibll thought that is which has much more money in it. aibll of thought that is which has much more money in it. aibll of a thought that is which has much more money in it. aibll of a problem. ught that is which has much more money in it. aibll of a problem. and that is which has much more money in it. aibll of a problem. and thet is a bit of a problem. and the other well, here's other thing as well, here's here's thing we had here's the real thing we had over vacancies in over 300,000 vacancies in the nhs and we matched with nhs and we matched that with people brought the people that we brought into the country, we have country, but yet we still have a huge vacancies. so huge amount of vacancies. so where have all these people gone that claim were coming to that claim they were coming to work the nhs? i think that's work in the nhs? i think that's what should going what we should be going on and the very good point, the other part, very good point, they're very good point. the other should other point, we should stop telling in telling people that working in the horrible. that's why the nhs is horrible. that's why people join them. people aren't join them. >> people do >> paul these people do a fantastic job and we all recognise that you know, they, they after us and we have they look after us and we have to respect that. but it is a form i tend to agree with form as i tend to agree with sean, it's a formal most of colonial plundering. yeah. and and you know, we denude these developing countries often people who need these nurses and doctors, you know , they're vital doctors, you know, they're vital to them develop their
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to helping them develop their health services. and we swipe them away. and then we trumpet them away. and then we trumpet the fact that we've swiped them away and our great away. and isn't our nhs great because we've all these because we've taken all of these people around the world people from around the world without the other without seeing what the other side of that means? a few years ago there was a very serious health crisis in the romanian health this was the health service. this was in the years got accession years after they got accession to union and free to the european union and free movement kicked in. in romania , movement kicked in. in romania, and lots of doctors left to come and lots of doctors left to come and work in the west and it caused a really serious health service crisis in romania. and i still think they're suffering the overhang of that now . and the overhang of that now. and that's the other side of free movement. if it's all one way, then what you're doing is you're creating real problems inside the country, not just in the parent country, not just in terms of the health service, but actually everything generally in terms depopulation mean, actually everything generally in teyou depopulation mean, actually everything generally in teyoulookepopulation mean, actually everything generally in teyou look at pulation mean, actually everything generally in teyou look at latvia,�*| mean, actually everything generally in teyou look at latvia, for mean, if you look at latvia, for example few years example, or latvia a few years ago, largely as a result of free movement and young men predominantly moving went predominantly moving away, went through de—population crisis . through a de—population crisis. and that can have all sorts of implications for the country, for prosperity, its for its prosperity, for its
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economy, for its well—being, for its infrastructure . its infrastructure. >> away the best and >> just taken away the best and the and you can't the brightest. and you can't developing piece that's developing the have piece that's really to looked really needs to be looked at is why people here why can't we develop people here to those job roles . we've to take those job roles. we've proudly said we for the nhs and the country doesn't have immigrants. i'm child immigrants. i'm the child of immigrants. i'm the child of immigrants. immigration will immigrants. i immigration will always important. i get that. always be important. i get that. but people who live but also the people who live here important. so let's get them into an interest. let's get them into an interest. let's get them qualified. let's get them them qualified. let's get them the in. the income from working in. >> viewers are >> a few of my viewers are getting in touch saying about the things. getting in touch saying about ththere things. getting in touch saying about ththere obsessionigs. getting in touch saying about th there obsession with is there the obsession with everyone, these nursing everyone, all these nursing staff, have everyone, all these nursing st degree have everyone, all these nursing stdegree these have everyone, all these nursing stdegree these days? have everyone, all these nursing stdegree these days? didhave everyone, all these nursing stdegree these days? did itve everyone, all these nursing stdegree these days? did it used a degree these days? did it used to be like that? i don't think it did. >> it didn't i blame that on tony blair? this whole 50% of people university, people going to university, things value unless things not being of value unless they're a degree. that's the problem. >> well, yeah, there go. >> well, yeah, there you go. >> well, yeah, there you go. >> lots come your way. don't >> lots to come your way. don't worry, be more worry, there will be more christmas trees. yes, but i always want to talk always want. i also want to talk to the weather. why to you about the weather. why can we not handle the snow in this to this country? and i want to bnng this country? and i want to bring of responses bring in some of your responses from some of the other topics that covered show from some of the other topics thefar. covered show from some of the other topics thefar. so covered show from some of the other topics thefar. so don'tred show from some of the other topics thefar. so don't go show from some of the other topics
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hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. it's friday night. it's what, just gone to seven. so you know what that means, don't you? it means that youlbury tavern is open, so cheers to all of you. cheers. cheers to you. and cheers. look, he actually cheers. oh, look, he actually does that. no does a cheers. i like that. no one does. everyone just one else does. everyone just does like, a weird does it as, like, a weird gesture. anyway, cheers to gesture. but anyway, cheers to you at home. let's start you guys at home. let's start the segment. as we've done all the segment. as we've done all the others. get a couple of christmas trees up. shall get christmas trees up. shall we get into the swing of christmas spirit? everybody let's have a look. is jade . let's have look. this is jade. let's have a look. this is jade. let's have a look at jade. oh i like it again. i'll describe it for the radio viewers. we've got a multicultural scene, a multicultural scene, a multicultural multi coloured, multicultural multi coloured, multi coloured. we've got a multi coloured. we've got a multi coloured. we've got a multi coloured light scene going on there in the corner. i don't know, is that a nativity? >> yeah, it is. there is a nativity going, small nativity.
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>> yeah, it is. there is a nat we've)ing, small nativity. >> yeah, it is. there is a nat we've got. small nativity. >> yeah, it is. there is a nat we've got. slighted tivity. >> yeah, it is. there is a natwe've got. slighted what >> we've got a lighted what looks presents there and looks like a presents there and a gloria angel in the middle of that. it. jade i like it. that. i like it. jade i like it. next jeff oh yeah. next one. jeff oh yeah. >> look at the catalogue . >> look at the catalogue. >> look at the catalogue. >> jeff yeah, that is, that is catalogue level. is that, yeah, you could be like a tree dresser for a catalogue. i like it. it's got all the beads going on, ladies and gents. very tradition . all very i've got one . all very good. i've got one more. we're going to save more. oh, we're going to save one we've got. one more. oh, no, we've got. >> wow. >> oh, wow. >> oh, wow. >> me. look at this one. >> me. look at this one. >> got. >> oh, that's got. >> oh, that's got. >> whose this. >> whose is this. >> whose is this. >> that's jump. that's that's got she's going to say got balls. oh she's going to say that's balls. yeah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got balls. yeah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got some balls. yeah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got some big balls. yeah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got some big balls yeah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got some big balls on ah. got balls. oh she's going to say that's got some big balls on the we've got some big balls on the bottom of that golden ball style. >> yeah. golden ball. that is a very traditional very nice traditional one. >> is too >> question is oh is it too early for your christmas tree? yes what? mm- >> what? get out. >> what? get out. >> it's not. >> it's not. >> no, it's not. we had this conversation with paul earlier on and he he the line conversation with paul earlier on havinge he the line conversation with paul earlier on having christmas the line conversation with paul earlier on having christmas treesthe line conversation with paul earlier on having christmas trees up line at having christmas trees up this early. >> i'm favour of capital >> i'm in favour of capital punishment for anyone who puts their tree up more their christmas tree up more than before christmas. than two weeks before christmas. no me to no you should not be for me to agree. prohibited. prohibited by law. >> there should be a law. no, you're not private members, bill. >> i bill. »| bill. >> i private members will >> i think private members will come your way.
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>> bring you all some >> let me bring you all in some of conversations, shall >> let me bring you all in some of thisconversations, shall >> let me bring you all in some of this cop'ersations, shall >> let me bring you all in some of this cop situation, shall >> let me bring you all in some of this cop situation, ihall >> let me bring you all in some of this cop situation, i can't we? this cop situation, i can't really seem find out really seem to find anyone out there agrees with cop 28, there that agrees with cop 28, john from staffordshire saying why have we pledged again £1.6 billion now for this waste of time? people in this country are struggling to be able to afford food, but yet we're giving it to other countries for their climate solutions . please, can climate solutions. please, can we wise up? jackie says this is all a waste of time. can we just stop and wait for the rest of all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld nait for the rest of all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld tot for the rest of all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld to catch he rest of all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld to catch uprest of all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld to catch up withyf all a waste of time. can we just st0jworld to catch up with us? the world to catch up with us? then we can perhaps all work together, says. a together, adrian says. what a bunch world bunch of hypocrites. these world leaders private leaders are in their private jets, the rest it . who jets, all the rest of it. who else this ? lots of people else is this? lots of people supporting that council . the supporting that council. the havering council . joan says this havering council. joan says this is the best news, that they've decided to continue their their celebrations as lots of people again on this nurses one saying thatis again on this nurses one saying that is quite an unethical in their mind recruiting all these nurses from red list countries. let's just ask quickly shall i, about the snow why whenever we
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get a whiff of a snowflake .in this country, do we seem to basically break down to a halt? schools are closed. you've got travel chaos in london. sadiq khan, for example, has activated a severe weather emergency protocol . why can't we deal with protocol. why can't we deal with the snow in this country? briefly, gents ? briefly, gents? >> i mean, the cynic in me thinks it's a great day, a great excuse for a day off. i mean , excuse for a day off. i mean, when i was a kid at school, that would have been oh, would have been great. oh, snow day do think day off. but i do think sometimes have more sometimes we should have more sort of protocols around why we're going to do it. is it snow heavy? can you get to school? and when close school , and when you close a school, what is give families what you do is give families a very problem. actually, what you do is give families a v< school problem. actually, what you do is give families a v< school problydo actually, what you do is give families a v< school problydo bestially, what you do is give families a v< school problydo best to y, a school should do its best to stay open and individual families, can't make families, if they can't make it in, should close. but here in london issue. london shouldn't be an issue. paul because we are rubbish at resilience . resilience. >> we're a non developing country. not at country. we're not good at resilience, good resilience, we're not good at infrastructure . combined infrastructure. combined with the bedevilled the fact that we're bedevilled by what i call a culture by what i would call a culture of safety ism and are of safety ism and we are becoming a very kind of risk averse society. and i absolutely
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believe you do need rough sleepers. for example, you absolutely need to look after them when it's below freezing temperatures. no one can seriously complain about that . seriously complain about that. but schools closing. i love going school in the snow, going to school in the snow, trudging throwing , you trudging through, throwing, you know, your mates know, snowballs at your mates and at and stuff, throwing it at the teachers. could away teachers. if you could get away with it. and you know, kids need that sort of adventure. it's that sort of adventure. and it's sad it often. >> i agree . look, should we >> i agree. look, should we finish? i've got a minute left on the programme. go on then. you've my arm. get some you've twisted my arm. get some more trees. i'm getting into it now. turn now. christmas jumpers turn in my then. my head. come on then. let's have elizabeth, that's have a look. elizabeth, that's not elizabeth. what not elizabeth. that's what elizabeth was. that i think. >> is that. no that looks pretty big. fills the whole room. big. that fills the whole room. >> elizabeth was a quick flash. we that one. this we just missed that one. this one . this one is one is miriam's. this one is ginormous. it's a real ginormous. i think it's a real tree we've got a lot tree there. we've got a lot going on. we've got ribbon, we've baubles . i it. we've got baubles. i like it. nicola . hey, now look at the nicola wow. hey, now look at the creative pity on nicola. this is like a bust or something. that's made a dress. let's have a look. well done, nicola. i like it. look at this one. whoa look at
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this. this is a it's a cake. >> it's a tepee, isn't it? it's a tepee. >> christmas tree. >> christmas tree. >> what lovely polar bear. >> what a lovely polar bear. >> what a lovely polar bear. >> oh, the polar bear. >> oh, the polar bear. >> working as a doorman. >> working as a doorman. >> working a doorman . >> working as a doorman. >> working as a doorman. >> very good, isn't it? >> that is very good, isn't it? i'm at ten. i'm going to max out at ten. would that one? jen would you give that one? jen >> that's. that's a nine and a half. say. i like that. half. i'd say. i like that. >> many would you >> how many how many would you give it out? >> ten. 9.5. »- >> ten. 9.5. >> teddy 5 teddy bear. >> i love the teddy bear. >> i love the teddy bear. >> a 12 out of ten, >> i'd give it a 12 out of ten, mainly mainly because mine mainly. mainly because it's mine . that was yours. >> lucky you said what we did then. >> diy tepee my kid can >> diy tepee that my kid can never have invited back, never have been invited back, would ? that's all would we instead? that's all i've time for. good night, i've got time for. good night, everybody. have a good weekend. night everybody. have a good weekend. niga brighter outlook with boxed >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news evening. >> i'm alex deakin . this is your >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news turning cold out there this evening and it's going to stay pretty cold for of this weekend . ice for most of us this weekend. ice and in places and and snow showers in places and a
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pretty hard frost. low pressure kind of drifting away from the uk. so the cold air that's in place isn't going anywhere . so place isn't going anywhere. so some fog thickening up tonight as well. and we have met office yellow warnings in place wherever we've got showers, there's the potential for ice. now, showers will have now, these showers will have some and snow mixed in some sleet and snow mixed in over southwest over eastern england, southwest scotland , northwest england and scotland, northwest england and northern . so as i say, northern scotland. so as i say, we've got some mist and fog thickening up to particularly dense parts of the midlands dense over parts of the midlands as temperatures to minus as temperatures drop to minus three, that's in three, minus four. that's in towns cities. so a hard towns and cities. so a hard frost for saturday. for many. it'll be a bright, sunny it'll be a fine bright, sunny day, but it'll take a while for the clear showers the fog to clear the showers should clear away from eastern england. few going should clear away from eastern en southwest few going should clear away from eastern en southwest scotland few going should clear away from eastern en southwest scotland ,aw going should clear away from eastern en southwest scotland , northwest in southwest scotland, northwest england snow over the england with some snow over the hills. the odd rain shower for wales and southwest england. but as most dry and as i say, for most dry and sunny, but cold temperatures 1 or 2 degrees, particularly if that fog lingers maybe a little higher in the south—west, slightly milder air comes in across the south during sunday. there could well be some sleet and time on sunday and snow for a time on sunday morning midlands
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morning over the midlands and eastern england. and then the potential for more wet weather to come later the to come in later in the south—west. could have south—west. that could also have some mixed in, chiefly over some snow mixed in, chiefly over hills. it is slowly trying to turn milder across the south, but for many, sunday's another . but for many, sunday's another. cold one goodbye. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed spoilers, sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> welcome to lee anderson's real world. with me , lee real world. with me, lee anderson. tonight on the show, i'll be joined by archaeologist mario trabucco, della tourette .
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mario trabucco, della tourette. we've also got for about the fifth time former labour mp stephen pound. he's back of the left in the corner. we've got the writer and journalist, baroness claire fox. she's on the show . we've also got gerald the show. we've also got gerald stratford. he's a social media influencer and gucci model at the age of 75. and we've also got tv personality and mathematician, the legendary johnny ball. but first, let's go to the . news to the. news >> thanks, lee. good evening. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top stories . the prime our top stories. the prime minister says the world needs to do more to tackle climate change. addressing the cop 28 summit in dubai , rishi sunak summit in dubai, rishi sunak urged major polluting countries to follow the uk's example in slashing emissions. he also announced £1.6 billion for international climate finance and promised that the government's green policies will not hurt taxpayer pockets.
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