farage that you won't have seen before. my grand hotel madness as well. the government has been caught out, they said that they were shutting migrant hotels. it turns out that they're just moving them to other hotels instead. this instead. but of course, this hasn't stopped rishi sunak banging on about rwanda today. and i've got tomorrow's newspaper front pages today , so newspaper front pages today, so you'll be ahead of the game with all of saturday's news on the sofa tonight is the top team of the mail on sunday's editor at large, griffiths. large, charlotte griffiths. we've got bbc icon john sergeant and the only way is essex star junaid as well. it's a junaid ahmed as well. it's a very special episode of patrick christys your christys tonight. coming your way . way. so yes, i will be bringing you that world exclusive with laura ferrari, the woman behind nigel's throne, as it were. i'm also going to be talking as well about cop 28 and them taking a series of private jets there. so

it's all go after the headlines . it's all go after the headlines. thanks patrick. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top stories this as greenpeace has accused rishi sunak of showing no leadership over climate change after he failed to mention phasing out fossil fuels during his speech at cop 28. addressing the summit in dubai, the prime minister announced at £i.6 minister announced at £1.6 billion for international climate finance and promised the government's green policies would not hurt taxpayers pockets . you also urged major polluting countries to follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions. >> the united kingdom is totally committed to net zero. the paris agreement and to keeping 1.5 alive. and that's why we've decarbonised faster than any other major economy . our 2030 other major economy. our 2030 target means the deepest cuts of any major emitter , and we are

any major emitter, and we are determined to deliver . but determined to deliver. but instead of putting more pressure on working people , we're on working people, we're choosing a pragmatic new approach. we're ramping up renewables and embracing the opportunities of technology and green industry . green industry. >> hamas has attempted multiple rocket attacks on israel after talks to extend a week long truce collapsed. both sides are accusing each other of wrecking the negotiations after hamas violated the terms of the pause with a strike early this morning . the israel defence forces also say they've struck over 200 terror targets in response , terror targets in response, including operational command centres as mediators from qatar and egypt say they're working to try to continue the release of hostages . the former health hostages. the former health secretary has told the covid inquiry that boris johnson apologised to him for hiring. dominic cummings comes after matt hancock told the inquiry that the then pm said sorry over quote, the damage that mr cummings did to the pandemic response . he also said the pm's

response. he also said the pm's senior adviser attempted to centralise power to himself and worked without boris johnson's approval. a spokesman for mr johnson has declined to confirm or deny the claims. members of aslef have voted overwhelmingly to continue strike action for the next six months in their ongoing dispute over pay. the announcement comes as members at 16 train companies are refusing to work overtime from today until saturday. the company said they will operate as many trains as possible, but some areas may have no services . the union is have no services. the union is blaming the government for not negotiating the rail delivery group says drivers have been offered a £5,000 pay rise on tv online, on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now to . patrick now to. patrick >> i literally couldn't care less about cop 28. i think the whole thing is a total farce . whole thing is a total farce. the king david cameron rishi sunak have all taken separate

private jets to go to a talking shopin private jets to go to a talking shop in an oil state to help promote policies that as far as i can tell, were quite possibly just poor people poorer. just make poor people poorer. the absolute audacity of billionaires firing goodness knows much co2 into the knows how much co2 into the atmosphere to go and meet up with other billionaires. so they can encourage dorothy from number 42 spend thousands can encourage dorothy from n|heat r 42 spend thousands can encourage dorothy from n|heat pump spend thousands can encourage dorothy from n|heat pump and�*nd thousands can encourage dorothy from n|heat pump and swallow.ands can encourage dorothy from n|heat pump and swallow thes can encourage dorothy from n|heat pump and swallow the cost a heat pump and swallow the cost of a new ulez charge that won't make a blind bit of difference to environment. to the environment. it's a comedy . sultan jaber comedy show. dr. sultan al jaber is president of the climate summit and he's also the head of the united arab emirates state oil company . the united arab emirates state oil company. is that not a little bit like putting an xl bully of child care at bully in charge of child care at the nursery? in the local nursery? now, in an absolutely turn of absolutely shocking turn of events could have events that nobody could have seen coming, nobody. it turns out that the uae was planning to use the climate summit where the world's leaders all gather to strike more oil and gas deals. there is something quite telling, i think, about where they've decided host this they've decided to host this climate summit. so in dubai, a place protesters will be place where protesters will be banned from entering or detained immediately if they kicked off

plonking very controversial plonking a very controversial climate in a place where climate summit in a place where no opposition is allowed . it's no opposition is allowed. it's actually quite a good example of the totally atarian the kind of totally atarian climate very often climate stuff that very often goes whole thing , in my goes on. the whole thing, in my view, is quite totalitarian . view, is quite totalitarian. banning new petrol diesel banning new petrol and diesel cars using contested science to drive forward unpopular policies. sadiq khan in london stands accused of misleading the pubuc stands accused of misleading the public over the benefits of ulez by using alleged misinformation in adverts. the adverts which were broadcast and published between january and june, claimed that the existing ulez in central london had quotes almost halved the levels of nitrogen dioxide and that most air pollution related deaths actually occur in outer london. but a draft of a watchdog's conclusions leaked to the sunday telegraph found that the ulez adverts were misleading because they did not clarify why that claims about an o2 they did not clarify why that claims about an 02 levels were based on estimates or modelled scenarios and not actual figures. it's the modelling again , isn't it? but every time again, isn't it? but every time you blink more of your hard

earned money is being given away by our politicians to push the big green agenda . you might have big green agenda. you might have missed this, but rishi sunak is giving about £16 billion to restore the united kingdom's reputation as a leader in tackling climate change by committing to spend the money on projects in africa and asia and tackle deforestation and energy innovation . you should be using innovation. you should be using that money to restore his reputation at home. if you ask me, who do these world leaders think they are , just look at think they are, just look at the way live their lives . they way they live their lives. they are damaging the are the ones damaging the environment, us. paying environment, not us. stop paying . stop making pay for all of . stop making us pay for all of your pointless vanity projects. but let's get the thoughts of my panel but let's get the thoughts of my panel. former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant joins us towie star junaid ahmed, an editor at large for the mail on sunday. it is charlotte griffiths . and charlotte griffiths. and charlotte, i'll start with you. look it's very , very contested look it's very, very contested this stuff at cop 28. how do you feel about the i would call it hypocrisy of certainly three of

our dignitaries, all using separate private jets to go there. >> yeah. you think they'd all team in together? >> i mean, when the queen died, they shared a private jet, they all shared a private jet, they all shared a private jet, the king the royals. but prince king charles exactly sharing charles wasn't exactly sharing his private jet. i just think dubai is the least natural place in the world. it's like a manmade city. i just completely and utterly not natural. and there they are sort of saying, let's sort of get back to nature and save mother nature. well, they chose the wrong venue for that. i think john, your views on all of this, do you think it's a necessity that we have to have all of these global elites meeting in one place to decide side how we sort out the climate crisis ? crisis? >> well, it'd be wonderful, patrick, but your accounts of despair, you know, you're so why can't we only talk to democracy , liz? >> why can't we only talk to people who are dictators? people who are not dictators? why do this? why why do we have to do this? why do have to do that? world do we have to do that? the world is as it is. we've got to try everything it's not everything we can. and it's not an excuse saying we an excuse for saying because we can't everything wrong. we can't do everything wrong. we don't anything. mean , you don't do anything. i mean, you know, we can't do everything

means keep trying. means you've got to keep trying. and need to try and you particularly need to try with these oil producing states. and you particularly need to try with �*ifase oil producing states. and you particularly need to try with “if you>il producing states. and you particularly need to try with “if you say roducing states. and you particularly need to try with “if you say ,)ducing states. and you particularly need to try with “if you say , oh, ing states. and you particularly need to try with “if you say , oh, we're ates. and you particularly need to try with “if you say , oh, we're not. now, if you say, oh, we're not going to go there because all they'll about is oil they'll be talking about is oil deals behind the corner or they'll turn up in private jets . they'll turn up in private jets. the cost of this in terms of the private jets is minimal compared with all the airline flights that are taking place. every day. the cost, if you can try and get some people convinced . and get some people convinced. bp, for example, is now bp, for example, which is an oil producer . producer. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> no, no, no, no, no. that's that's if you assume that the whole world with optics whole world is to do with optics . no, the whole world is to do with is and the real with real things is and the real fact which i think most people now realise , particularly this now realise, particularly this yean now realise, particularly this year, that climate change is year, is that climate change is here with us and it's causing devastating effects in terms of flooding, in terms of extreme temperatures. and if you don't think that, well, go ahead and bury your head in the sand, but if you do think that and you think something should be done, then at least try by getting other together. all sorts

other people together. all sorts of improbable characters get them together as soon as you can, try and get them to talk seriously about what we should do. you then say, oh, why do. but if you then say, oh, why bother? then what? what are bother? well then what? what are we with the rest of we going to do with the rest of our days? we're going our days? we're just going to say , don't bother. say no, don't bother. >> about the >> how do you feel about the climate crisis ? so—called climate crisis? so—called climate crisis? so—called climate crisis? so—called climate crisis? it does it climate crisis? does it does it bother you? does it keep you awake night? bother you? does it keep you awakmean,ght? bother you? does it keep you awakmean, ht? bother you? does it keep you awakmean, i definitely, >> i mean, i definitely, probably think other probably think about other things climate crisis things than the climate crisis itself. i think i'm probably too busy maybe looking at myself or how own but how to improve my own life. but i think with this situation itself, think fact that itself, i think the fact that they want to make such a big change have to agree change with it, i have to agree with fact that with charlotte. the fact that they've travelled they've all travelled separately, they've all travelled se make ly, they've all travelled se make a lot of sense with of make a lot of sense with that. have that. they could have potentially changed location. maybe we could have jumped on a tube. you wouldn't tube. you wouldn't you wouldn't catch me on the central line. but know. catch me on the central line. butno, know. catch me on the central line. butno, kn> no, too hot. >> no, too hot. >> hot on the central line >> too hot on the central line for could have for me. but they could have maybe potentially changed location somewhere nearer where it much and just it doesn't cost as much and just slight changes could have slight little changes could have made a bit better, but that's made it a bit better, but that's my think , john, you my personal i think, john, you have got a very optimistic view

of this, which i commend. >> should king >> fine. but so should the king have there ? because i have been there? because now i don't really don't think you can really separate the politics of the climate agenda with it being a worthy cause . and i just wonder worthy cause. and i just wonder if he should have got involved in that. he's wearing his greek tie wasn't he? shout tie as well. wasn't he? shout out to the elgin marbles. >> he definitely should have >> he he definitely should have been have to disagree been there. i have to disagree with that, we with you on that, because as we all been preaching all know, he's been preaching about since. about climate change since. well, say for 60 well, people say it's for 60 years. literally since years. i mean, literally since he was an adult and i think it completely transcends political affiliations. and he he kept what he was saying very broad, actually, and was very careful not it too political. not to make it too political. and it was almost the point of being wishy but you being quite wishy washy. but you know, just reminded know, he really just reminded people this is about nature. you know a real naturalist, know, he's a real naturalist, isn't he ? and like isn't he? and he like hugged tree. literally hugged trees tree. he literally hugged trees and things that. i think and things like that. i think also the question often also also the question often used with things is used to ask with these things is what he'd been told what if he'd been told he couldn't go? >> have we been told? that >> what have we been told? that he'd all working he'd spent all his life working away on this? people sneering at

him, laughing at him and so on. but when he becomes king, oh, he won't even let him say anything . won't even let him say anything. and that would have been awful. it'd been awful for him personally. awful for all of us. it would have seemed so petty not to let him. he, in fact, played it, thought brilliantly played it, i thought brilliantly today. i thought he was extremely careful. say extremely careful. he didn't say anything . he how serious it anything. he said how serious it all , but he didn't say. and all was, but he didn't say. and my government's got it wrong or anything like that . so i think anything like that. so i think it was, you know, it was a rather rather moving way rather nice, rather moving way in you can say this man is in which you can say this man is prince of wales, becomes king, feels about something, feels strongly about something, and of course should be allowed to speak about it in general terms , not in political terms, not in political terms. and certainly not in party political terms . not saying, political terms. not saying, let's wait for keir starmer to take over or anything like that. no, very careful he no, it was very careful what he said. well within his said. he was well within his rights i thought it was rights and i thought it was rather and moving to rather nice and rather moving to see him actually take his position king. position as king. >> i just worry. jenny whether or not the little guy on the street, the average and street, the average man and woman doesn't emit

woman out there who doesn't emit that who doesn't that much carbon, who doesn't really have anything massively directly to blame for the climate crisis that we've got at the moment. they're the who the moment. they're the ones who are things are made to pay things like ulez, . that was very ulez, for example. that was very controversial. you know, controversial. yeah you know, loads of people there have had controversial. yeah you know, lo'eitherpeople there have had controversial. yeah you know, lo'eitherpeoptheirere have had controversial. yeah you know, lo'eitherpeoptheirere hand had to either sell their cars and people are struggling with the cost living crisis at the cost of living crisis at the moment. are stories about moment. there are stories about nurses work night shifts, nurses who work night shifts, right? so might to work right? so they might go to work at 11 pm. say so they get done right? so they might go to work at them. say so they get done right? so they might go to work at the ulezy so they get done right? so they might go to work at the ulezy so thewayet done right? so they might go to work at the ulezy so theway inione right? so they might go to work at the ulezy so theway in and by the ulez on the way in and then get done by it on the then they get done by it on the way out. when they come off shift or whatever way out. when they come off shido or whatever way out. when they come off shido you or whatever way out. when they come off shido you think r whatever way out. when they come off shido you think there tever way out. when they come off shido you think there is'er is. do you think there is a sense that maybe the little people ones who are people are the ones who are really this stuff? people are the ones who are reaii think this stuff? people are the ones who are reaii think with this stuff? people are the ones who are reaii think with anys stuff? people are the ones who are reaii think with any sort|ff? people are the ones who are reaii think with any sort of�* >> i think with any sort of changes this, think they changes like this, i think they they are going to affect the people aren't people that potentially aren't able of able to afford any sort of changes adapt to changes and able to adapt to these changes, which does make it difficult . i think from it more difficult. i think from a personal point of it's a personal point of view, it's just shame i just it's a shame really. i think so much that is think there's so much that is kind of changing. it is affecting people in affecting so many people in whatever status they're whatever kind of status they're in, in, in reality. and in, in, in, in reality. and i think is it helping? is it not helping? do you know what i mean? yeah. someone like me. i'm

quite out there. quite young, i'm out there. i like life. and like to live a nice life. and it's like, can everyone keep up with this ? is it is something with this? is it is it something that can continue to do that everyone can continue to do with changes that i'm with all the changes that i'm making? what is the next potential going potential thing that's going to be you know what be a big shock, do you know what i mean? >> it always seems to cost. this is where are we is the thing. where are we finding £1.6 billion to finding this £1.6 billion to give the that give to whatever the heck that is? know , something to is? you know, something to do with farms in the with with wind farms in the middle and maybe helping middle east and maybe helping out know, of outwith, you know, kind of lesser developed countries if they a climate disaster they have a climate disaster where, you know, we've got people in this country, charlotte, really, charlotte, who are really, really told really struggling and being told that going to that we're not really going to lower your taxes at time lower your taxes at any time soon, pump more soon, we're going to pump more funding more funding funding into this, more funding into not to into that. we're not going to be able with, you able to give you help with, you know, this know, heating your homes this winter. say, well, winter. and then they say, well, we've more than £15 billion we've got more than £15 billion to we'll never meet. >> yeah, i agree with that because if £1.5 billion is going to africa, it's going to be a drop the ocean. africa drop in the ocean. africa is very place also. drop in the ocean. africa is ven no place also. drop in the ocean. africa is ven no offence,also. drop in the ocean. africa is ven no offence, but will it be >> no offence, but will it be spent? know. yeah, it's untraceable. >> it's totally untraceable. and we're thinking our hard we're thinking that all our hard earned going some mystery

earned tax is going some mystery country away . and it's country far away. and it's probably not going to be managed properly face it, properly because let's face it, these when these things never are when they're abroad. and that is they're sent abroad. and that is going frustrate going to really frustrate people, okay people, i think. okay >> right. well, look, we're >> all right. well, look, we're going it there for going to just park it there for now. returning now. i'll be returning to my wonderful panel very, very shortly. royals shortly. but are the royals feeling closer further apart feeling closer or further apart as omid scobie's has as omid scobie's book has stirred the royal pot? so obviously, revelation is are obviously, the revelation is are all out there, aren't they? we are choosing not to name the couple of alleged royal racist , couple of alleged royal racist, but i will be joined by royal commentator judyta but i will be joined by royal commentatorjudyta de silva and charlotte griffiths back at it again on money's worth tonight to share thoughts on all to share their thoughts on all of next in the of this. but up next in the clash bartoch head clash now, joe bartoch goes head to with katie. went to head with katie. john went to debate or not trans debate whether or not trans activists are having too much influence on government policy. very controversial topic this and whether or not, you know, this is all fine, it's progressive or actually is it really damaging kids ? and should really damaging kids? and should we open our eyes to it? you won't want to miss that. it will

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last year. gender critical feminist dr. kathleen stock wrote in the telegraph today, nhs england has already announced that blockers should only be administered as part of a clinical trial . why then, you a clinical trial. why then, you might ask our young patients not only getting them, but only still getting them, but getting them at higher rates than before. part of the answer relates to the current chaos in youth gender services, which, despite the best efforts, are still heavily dependent on a discredited clinical model. and this is really the framing of this is really the framing of this discussion. now, do certain pro trans groups have too much influence when it comes to medical and political policy? could it? well be a normalisation of child abuse? what do you think are trans activists having too much influence over government policy? let me know your thoughts . you can email me now, thoughts. you can email me now, gbviews@gbnews.uk . com you can, gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of tweet us at gb news. gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of debate tweet us at gb news. gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of debate this,t us at gb news. gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of debate this, i'm at gb news. gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of debate this, i'm joined news. gbviews@gbnews.uk. com you can, of debate this, i'm joined byns. to debate this, i'm joined by journalist josephine bartosh and diversity and inclusion facility at kc. john, when both of you, thank you very much. i'm really

looking forward to this. jo i'll start with you. do you think that that activist groups have got far too much influence when it comes to policy, both medical and political, and that that actually could well be leading to a type of child abuse ? that's to a type of child abuse? that's absolutely i mean, i think the whole creation of the idea of the transgender child is a nonsense . nonsense. >> it's there. there isn't any medical basis to the idea that you can be born into the wrong body. there are some people who have gender dysphoria and obviously for that obviously sympathy for that condition is entirely valid. but that doesn't mean children can be born into the wrong body. if we were to still use the language transsexual, language like transsexual, i think a transsexual think the idea of a transsexual child would rightly be very alarming people . but alarming to people. but essentially by putting children on untested drugs , which a court on untested drugs, which a court have ruled were experimental, all we are potentially sterilising and mutilating a generation of children, majority of whom we know would otherwise grow up to be lesbian or gay. so

yes, i do think it's fair to call this child abuse kc i'll ask the same question to you. >> i mean, do you feel as though this is some way child abuse ? this is in some way child abuse? >> i wouldn't agree with the language, no . at a at a personal language, no. at a at a personal level, i do believe in course action around children and trans because yeah, i do agree to some extent. yeah. is there such a thing as a trans child? no, there's a child who's growing up who may develop gender dysphoria, develop an dysphoria, who may develop an express an or identity in life that outside of the outside that is outside of the outside the norm, outside the binary, outside, expressions . outside, typical expressions. and that should be kind of kind of accommodated at of monitored and accommodated at a social level, not necessarily at a at a medical invasive level at a at a medical invasive level at all during someone's early years. i mean, i've always been cautious on on kind of child and teen transition . but hindsight teen transition. but hindsight is a five letter word. and at the end of the day, when you're looking back in life, if you find that the only way to solve your gender dysphoria, having tried many other sources

tried perhaps many other sources of help, including therapy, if the only source of help has been that one thing, transition , then that one thing, transition, then typically you will have wanted to have had it earlier. but then, as i say, hindsight is a five letter word. >> well, joe, what are the kind of stuff, though, of stats on this stuff, though, or perception ? you or the general perception? you know, does it actually know, i mean, does it actually help kids or i mean , i certainly help kids or i mean, i certainly am quite concerned that we're going up a going to end up with a generation of children who have been deeply scarred in more ways than one as a result of trans activists getting a hold of government policy and health care policy . care policy. >> yeah. and i mean , we've seen >> yeah. and i mean, we've seen recently nhs trusts using software that was developed at a cost of £40 million and it records the gender identity of babies , of newborn babies. now babies, of newborn babies. now when journalists push back and ask the trust about that, the trust told them that that it had been an error. but actually the

press release made it very clear that it had taken a lot of research and consideration and time to come up with this . and time to come up with this. and the categories included things like gender. now that is an like cis, gender. now that is an entirely category , entirely ideological category, not a medical one. and it's really , really concerning when not a medical one. and it's re comeseally concerning when not a medical one. and it's re comes to ly concerning when not a medical one. and it's re comes to health arning when not a medical one. and it's re comes to health careg when not a medical one. and it's re comes to health care invhen it comes to health care in particular, it's vitally particular, where it's vitally important to know what sex somebody that sort of somebody is that this sort of identity nonsense get identity nonsense can get fed into now, kc, why into policy. okay now, kc, why are groups like stonewall and other groups, they're not the only one at all, by the way. >> so keen on pushing all of >> so keen on on pushing all of this stuff. so keen. do you think on getting into the minds of young children and pushing stuff that can change them for life? i mean, do you not think that's maybe quite dangerous really ? really? >> well, if i can segway just off the end of the previous question that joe responded to as well, because i was speaking to this week and to nhs staff just this week and they were asking me questions and i responded to exactly that kind of question around do you record sex or gender? say, record sex or gender? i say, well, with a child you record

sex and as someone grows, you may record gender identity or transition as an additional component, but you should always record know record sex as well. i know people both going from male to female, female to male who have actually the nhs actually gone back to the nhs and i have my sex and said, can i have my sex marker back my birth marker change back to my birth sex get proper nhs sex so that i get proper nhs care because i, as someone who started life as male, identifies just simply as a trans person. now i don't use the female language, but ultimately i can still get prostate cancer a little bit less likely because i've taken oestrogen. but someone is born female can someone who is born female can still female health still get female health conditions and so as a result, the nhs need to monitor the nhs does need to monitor sex. , i mean, i'm sex. and so, i mean, i'm completely in support of that . completely in support of that. so there's lot of so sometimes there's a lot of what call misguided what i would call misguided allyship. when you talk allyship. and then when you talk about like about organisations like stonewall and i was kind of involved in some of the engagement, as a trans engagement, not as a trans person, with ruth hunt, when person, but with ruth hunt, when they aware they went lgbt. so i was aware of what was going on at that point and the discussion organs and these things were done out of a good heart, you might say , of a good heart, you might say, rather than a conspiracy

rather than kind of a conspiracy theory. and that is true also of nhs staff. they generally speaking, are trying to put patient care and individuals first, trying to humanise people. but sometimes over allyship makes a mistake. >> now , joe, i saw you raising >> now, joe, i saw you raising your eyebrows at something there. what was that ? there. what was that? >> oh, well, i know that stonewall got a large donation from the arcus foundation for explicitly extending what they did to include the t, to add the t to the lgb. so it wasn't an entirely i don't think it was an entirely. >> well, that's interesting. no, no, that's that's interesting. let me delve into that a little bit because there's always the question asked of question asked to a lot of people who funds you, who funds you? that's very typical you? that's a very typical question in question when you're in politics, when you're current politics, when you're in current affairs media, do affairs and you're in media, do you think it's worthwhile you think that it's worthwhile asking about asking that question about some groups stonewall? because groups like stonewall? because if influence the kind if that does influence the kind of stuff they out there of stuff that they put out there and then influence and that stuff then influence government policy and is government policy and it is combined with a lot of fear. the heavy dose of language like you're a transphobe et cetera.

to really double down on that, is that something that people should into? joe absolutely. >> i think there's been a shocking lack of transparency . shocking lack of transparency. so essentially when ruth hunt took over , same sex marriage had took over, same sex marriage had been achieved and there wasn't that much to do, so that's why it was expanded to include, in my opinion , that's why it was my opinion, that's why it was included to include the t and now to me, it seems obvious that there was antagonism between the lgb and the t because one is based on identity, on who you feel you are, and the other is based on who you attracted based on who you are attracted to biological level. so, to on a biological level. so, you there's a tension you know, there's a tension there to start with. now when it comes to funding , there's a comes to funding, there's a group called ilga. now, they produced a report with a global law firm which advised trans groups to lobby their governments to get ahead of the law. when it came to gender self—identification . so that's self—identification. so that's why stonewall were accused of representing the law as they

wanted it to be rather than it is. so we've ended up with a de facto system of gender self—identify creation spread across the 850 organisations that were once paid members of stone. >> all right. now obviously stonewall are not to here defend themselves and we can't, you know , make any further know, make any further allegations really about them. there's no doubt there's a few bits and bobs that they would dispute. kc i'll just final one to you, if that's all right. kc which is, do you that which is, do you think that as a society, always had had society, we always had had thousands, millions of children in every single generation who were walking around feeling as though they'd been born into, oh, we'll never find out because katie's just gone. oh, well , katie's just gone. oh, well, there we go. up brings up. i was going to ask whether or not we thought we'd always had thought that we'd always had millions walking millions of children walking around they'd around feeling as though they'd been body been born into the wrong body and really struggling with that, or this something or whether this is something that planted into or whether this is something that people's planted into or whether this is something that people's through into or whether this is something that people's through the some people's minds through the education system, etcetera. katie's . good stuff. katie katie's back. good stuff. katie so i'll just throw it back to you.so so i'll just throw it back to you. so look, yeah, basically,

do you think that we've always you. so look, yeah, basically, do ymillions that we've always you. so look, yeah, basically, do ymillions th'kidse've always you. so look, yeah, basically, do ymillions th'kids walking ys had millions of kids walking around they've around feeling as though they've been born into the wrong body or are an increase are we seeing an increase in that it's actually that now because it's actually being minds ? being planted in their minds? >> it's overtly >> i don't think it's overtly being planted in their minds. i don't think have had don't think we have always had this number of kids, as you put it. i do think that we should, in the same way that we should perhaps questions about perhaps ask questions about funding, whether that's funding of funding of of media funding of organisations anything.i of media funding of organisations anything. i do organisations or anything. i do think asking questions is always right. asking questions of the individual who say they are trans. yes, you should ask the questions. did come questions. where did this come from? long you felt from? how long have you felt this? this? and from? how long have you felt tido’ this? and from? how long have you felt tido think this? and from? how long have you felt tido think there this? and from? how long have you felt tido think there has this? and from? how long have you felt tido think there has thisa and from? how long have you felt tido think there has thisa kind i do think there has been a kind of increase . part of the of an increase. part of the increase is down kind of increase is down to kind of i wouldn't advertising, wouldn't call it advertising, but very that you can but the very fact that you can find about it now and it's find out about it now and it's less rare because it is known about. but yes, i think there are many reasons why people are trans . and i think there are trans. and i think there are people being trans is people for whom being trans is the wrong thing. and that's why we transitions. and i think we have transitions. and i think it to ask of those it is fair to ask all of those questions. we've got create questions. we've got to create an environment which an environment in which it is okay questions

okay to ask those questions without accused of being a without being accused of being a transphobe asking them. transphobe for asking them. and in able to actually in order to be able to actually give put the child or young give put the child or the young adult's interests at heart . adult's best interests at heart. and have a paucity and for that we have a paucity of mental health services. so that's the area service that that's the area of service that should boosted in should be being boosted in addition yeah i think addition to gids. yeah i think people have a right to be very concerned like concerned about if like stonewall gets involved and other groups. >> again, i want to emphasise just here just using stonewall here because most because they're kind of the most famous other famous one, right? but other groups get groups as well, they get involved government involved with government policy, they with they get involved with businesses, involved businesses, they get involved in every seems , every single aspect. it seems, of a lot of life. and there does appear to be a lot of about appear to be a lot of fear about any pushback to that. and when they have real influence and when real children are involved with know, raise with it, you know, i raise some serious about that. serious questions about that. but look, thank you serious questions about that. but very look, thank you serious questions about that. but very much.look, thank you serious questions about that. but very much. i've. thank you serious questions about that. but very much. i've thoroughly very, very much. i've thoroughly enjoyed stuff enjoyed it. informative stuff on both joe both sides as journalist joe bartos diversity bartos and diversity and inclusion katie inclusion facilitator katie john, when get your views coming in gb views and gbnews.com or go to inbox shortly. coming to the inbox shortly. but coming up, royals they're back up, the royals they're back under microscope because under the microscope because omid new book is omid scobie's new book is continuing cause controversy . continuing to cause controversy. he's saying ,

continuing to cause controversy. he's saying, oh, he's coming out and saying, oh, it was an honest mistake. i didn't do anything. was the didn't do anything. it was the translator's fault. the translators and said, translators come out and said, no, your no, it wasn't. it was your fault. pointing the fault. people then pointing the finger people finger at meghan markle. people close , people close to meghan close, people close to meghan markle prince harry have markle and prince harry have said definitely didn't said they definitely didn't brief scope. look what's brief on his scope. look what's really on here. are really going on here. are we joined royal commentator judy joined by royal commentator judy to charlotte to da silva and charlotte griffiths to share their thoughts could thoughts on whether this could be another in the royal armour. i will also, of course, be giving you an exclusive interview with nigel farages not so secret girlfriend. the first time that laura ferrari has ever spoken on national television. on television at all. and she'll be revealing an insight into what life is like with nigel, what life is like with nigel, what his ambitions might be when he comes out of the jungle and also up some rumour and also clearing up some rumour and some mistruths have been some mistruths that have been reported recent days. and reported in recent days. and weeks. you don't want to miss

eamonn and isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930 . thursdays from six till 930. >> right now it's been another incredibly busy week in the royal household . so early dutch royal household. so early dutch copies of scobie's poison filled end game suggested that kate oh, and somebody else as well were potentially making remarks about archie's skin colour. but it comes as king charles has flown out to the cop 28 conference, a move some of his critics have said unnecessary surely involves him in politics as all of this rocked the royal boat, even further, i'm joined now by royal commentator juditha further, i'm joined now by royal commentatorjuditha d'silva and editor large at the mail. on

editor at large at the mail. on sunday, it is charlotte griffiths. julie, i'll start with you on all of this. look how do you think that the royals in question are emerging it in question are emerging when it comes this this row it's comes to this this race row it's an interesting one because they've navigated all the napalm that has come as a result of the exodus of harry and meghan very well because it's one of those things that it's seen as give it time. >> people will move on. and it has happened. the issue with this is that since the oprah interview, it keeps coming back because the worst because one of the worst accusations you can level at anyone is to call them a racist. that's keeps coming back. that's why it keeps coming back. so i think it's of those so i think it's one of those things they might find things that they might find themselves needing to definitively some definitively address it. some way. but then you have the issue of you cannot have two rogue people decide what the agenda and the way you move is for the royal family. they've got to be greater that. they've got greater than that. they've got to beyond it's to be beyond that. so it's a very difficult to very difficult thing to navigate. and why navigate. and that's why i understand firm understand why they say the firm is exploring all options. do you think they should sue? >> i don't think they should

sue, but i think they sort of threatened scare amid threatened to scare amid a little bit. but i just don't think they will. and i actually don't think should. it's don't think they should. it's too complicated because charles don't think they should. it's to the mplicated because charles don't think they should. it's to the mplicofed because charles don't think they should. it's to the mplicofed b think public support >> okay. i think public support has actually gone behind. you know, look, am getting know, look, i am getting a directive now that it is okay to actually say what was in this book, which is , i think actually book, which is, i think actually probably the best, because book, which is, i think actually probably reallye best, because book, which is, i think actually probably really knows because book, which is, i think actually probably really knows be(well, everyone really knows as well, don't clearly don't they? but it was clearly kate and charles, who were the two were suggesting two royals who were suggesting and were the ones who made that comment about harry and meghan's first child, archie, which actually be honest you, actually, to be honest with you, frees conversation . do frees up this conversation. do you popularity you think that kate's popularity will take a hit from this at all, or is there is sign of all, or is there is no sign of it, there? it, is there? >> think until you what has >> i think until you what has happenedis >> i think until you what has happened is omid scobie's credibility has been so tarnished that people are not going to die in the cross of

what he said. and what until harry and meghan come out and actually make statement actually make a statement because kind of filtered because this is kind of filtered down from you allegedly me, they're one's going to they're not no one's going to really to die on the hill really want to die on the hill of is exactly what of saying this is exactly what happened. for and of saying this is exactly what happen have for and of saying this is exactly what happen have come for and of saying this is exactly what happenhave come out)r and of saying this is exactly what happenhave come out in and of saying this is exactly what happen have come out in the nd of saying this is exactly what happenhave come out in the past people have come out in the past 24 to 48 hours and said that actually from inside sources, it's not charles or kate, it's someone else . so the waters are someone else. so the waters are someone else. so the waters are so muddied right now, no one's going to be willing to lance at kate believe that this is kate and believe that this is the gospel and this is exactly what happened. and too what happened. and it's too unreliable . unreliable. >> yeah, it is it is too >> yeah, i mean, it is it is too unreliable . but like were unreliable. but like you were saying to as well, saying to you there as well, charles, out and said saying to you there as well, charjust out and said saying to you there as well, charjust about out and said saying to you there as well, charjust about survived. nd said saying to you there as well, charjust about survived. id said he's just about survived. i mean, obviously is a this mean, this obviously is a this would affect anyone's family . it would affect anyone's family. it would affect anyone's family. it would affect anyone's family. it would affect absolutely anybody's family at all. and a little bit later on, i'm talking actually to nigel, his girlfriend, in her first ever tv interview . one of the issues i interview. one of the issues i addressed with her is these allegations levelled allegations of racism levelled against nigel. for example, if anyone being accused of anyone was being accused of racism, it does have an impact on our royal family are

on you. and our royal family are not immune to that, they? not immune to that, are they? no,and charles said something >> and charles said it something along know, along the lines of, you know, i'm surviving . and i'm just about surviving. and i really him, actually, really felt for him, actually, because been levelled because this has been levelled at law, which we at his daughter in law, which we can now say, you he's can now say, you know, he's really daughter in really fond of his daughter in law. tirelessly to law. he's worked tirelessly to never a foot wrong in public never put a foot wrong in public at know, it's at least. and, you know, it's also been levelled at him by his own so many own son. so there's so many layers of betrayal here for prince it's just a prince charles. it's just a complete and if i was him, complete mess. and if i was him, i'd be gutted. you know, i'd be really gutted. you know, he's king and now he's just become king and now he's just become king and now he's to this all he's having to face all this all oven over. >> oven >> you were little >> you were giving us a little sneak preview, believe, sneak preview, i believe, anyway, might the anyway, of what might be on the front paper tomorrow or front of your paper tomorrow or possibly near yeah. >> yeah so? well, what seems to >> yeah. so? well, what seems to be emerging is that source is very close to meghan and harry have briefed the telegraph, which we know is one of their favoured newspapers , and said favoured newspapers, and said that never wanted these two that they never wanted these two names to come out and it's a really clever thing to do and it's an irritating thing to do really clever thing to do and it'sthe irritating thing to do really clever thing to do and it'sthe royalng thing to do really clever thing to do and it'sthe royal familyg to do really clever thing to do and it'sthe royal family because for the royal family because they're basically saying, yeah, is didn't want is those two. but we didn't want to it was those two. to ever say it was those two. that's they're that's interesting. they're not saying my harry's not

saying it wasn't my harry's not coming out and saying wasn't coming out and saying it wasn't my love my father. he my father. i love my father. he would something would never do something like this. unconscious would never do something like this. he's unconscious would never do something like this. he's sayinanconscious would never do something like this. he's saying we)nscious would never do something like this. he's saying we didn't|s would never do something like this. he's saying we didn't want bias. he's saying we didn't want these names to come out like this. >> that is actually a really fascinating line on this then, because everyone well, not everyone. a lot of people were saying, well, got come saying, well, you've got to come out publicly out and publicly distance yourself that's yourself from this. now. that's what if what you've got to do. if you care your family. care about your family. and if this true. actually, this isn't true. but actually, they've confirmed it. they've basically confirmed it. yes >> whilst appearing to be saying , you know, we didn't want this, we didn't want this, we're such goody two shoes, but actually, yeah, confirming you yeah, confirming it. do you think that's quite strong isn't it. because i'm i did say it >> no, because i'm i did say it like months ago that when they had the alleged statement saying that we're not going be that we're not going to be talking royal family talking about the royal family anymore. to move on. anymore. we want to move on. they've got nothing else. there's no other usp to the harry and meghan brand , harry and meghan brand, particularly in america that's so as to keep to keep so vicious as to keep to keep their attention on. they're going have revisit in going to have to revisit this in some what other grounds some way. but what other grounds do this do you have to cover? this reignites possibly the most

column garnering story they have about them. and that statement kind of leans into where disengage ing but still feeding the flame . and that is very the flame. and that is very problematic for them because you're not practising what you preach . preach. >> no. and also it's just annoying because it's like double again, double speak, isn't it? again, it, really is. it's a little it, it really is. it's a little bit like you get politician is coming out and saying, look, we're everything we can we're doing everything we can with emerges we're doing everything we can with literally emerges we're doing everything we can with literally the emerges we're doing everything we can with literally the day emerges we're doing everything we can with literally the day beforezs that literally the day before they've just pushed through a policy the opposite of they've just pushed through a policjthey the opposite of they've just pushed through a policjthey say. the opposite of they've just pushed through a policjthey say. do 1e opposite of they've just pushed through a policjthey say. do you jposite of they've just pushed through a policjthey say. do you thinks of they've just pushed through a policjthey say. do you think that what they say. do you think that the public are just going get the public are just going to get absolutely and absolutely sick of harry and meghan being quite meghan doing this or being quite duplicitous, argue in duplicitous, some would argue in this i think the >> yeah, i think i think the pubuc >> yeah, i think i think the public are kind sick of it. i public are kind of sick of it. i mean, it. mean, completely sick of it. i think back when it think back in back when it originally said originally happened, they said recollections may vary and then william , we are very much william said, we are very much not family and the not a racist family and the world has moved on now. and the fact come again, you fact it's come up again, you know, nation's sort know, there's the nation's sort of giving charles and kate the benefit the aren't benefit of the doubt aren't they? nobody. there's no pile on. a pile on. on. i haven't seen a pile on. people people have moved on people are people have moved on and hoping that charles

and their hoping that charles and their hoping that charles and kate aren't racist. yeah yeah basically i mean and that's the hope, i suppose. >> i wonder whether or not it's going to have a generational issue, though. these kind of things stay with you. yeah. and you know, the gen z type at the moment , all you know, the gen z type at the moment, all you have to do now is go and google. we saw it again in the jungle, didn't we, when nella was saying, oh, well, the internet says you're a racist now, you know, the internet you're a racist. internet says you're a racist. well, this stuff all out well, this stuff will be all out there internet and there on the internet now. and will problem will that have a problem for the royals younger generation? >> an i that's i said. that >> an i that's what i said. that this of unique this is such one of those unique accusations that you can't walk away you have to address away from you have to address it. but they have to navigate how going it how they're going to do it because then don't want to because then you don't want to look harry and look that look like harry and meghan the strings meghan still pull the strings for operate. but to have for how we operate. but to have racism swirling around brand racism swirling around the brand and by the time william comes to the throne, it's going to be an issue will remember the throne, it's going to be an issuesomething will remember the throne, it's going to be an issuesomething thatll remember the throne, it's going to be an issuesomething that bad nember the throne, it's going to be an issuesomething that bad camear that something that bad came into your circle and you refused to it's not keep to address it. it's not keep calm and on. engage , calm and carry on. it's engage, debunkit calm and carry on. it's engage, debunk it and prove that it's

something that isn't true . something that isn't true. >> okay. now, i'd already asked you this , so i'll stay with you you this, so i'll stay with you for now. do you think that king charles was right to go to cop 28? difficult . i 28? because it's difficult. i think in this particular moment in time to disassociate the political will from the eco . political will from the eco. >> i think he was right to go because he's been an environmentalist since it wasn't even cool to talk about. and people would laugh at him and think this just a fad think that this was just a fad and the fact that he stayed the course he a lot course means that he has a lot of credibility and just think about the optics shows . about the optics of it shows. king the important people king the most important people from around the coming from around the world coming together to discuss this issue is what the gen zs have been asking for is what greta thunberg about, asking for is what greta thunberg about , that you thunberg talks about, that you can't stand to the side and can't just stand to the side and let us deal with the problem when comes show that let us deal with the problem wimatters mes show that let us deal with the problem wimatters to es show that let us deal with the problem wimatters to you, show that let us deal with the problem wimatters to you, take;how that let us deal with the problem wimatters to you, take actioniat it matters to you, take action and that's what he's doing. i would argue we got involved in another political another deeply political thing, though, because he was wearing that though, because he was wearing tha obviously, was kind >> obviously, his dad was kind of behind the scenes affectionately the affectionately known as phil the greek, so that is

greek, wasn't he? so that is really political at the moment with the elgin marbles. okay, so sunak refused to meet the greek leader . keir sunak refused to meet the greek leader. keir starmer met him anyway. then there was a bit of anyway. then there was a bit of a quotes and quotes, hissy fit which rishi sunak denies about whether greeks should whether or not the greeks should definitively say definitively come out and say the marbles belong to the elgin marbles belong to britain. we would like to britain. but we would like to loan i mean, king charles loan them. i mean, king charles didn't have to get involved in that, no that, did he? no >> i wonder whether just >> but i wonder whetherjust being conspiracy being a bit of a conspiracy theorist, he'd just theorist, he thought he'd just pile on something that pile on something else that we can isn't the can talk about that isn't the racism so now we're racism thing. so now we're talking him being cop talking about him being a cop in general, it's general, you know, whether it's political and why is he political or not. and why is he getting involved the in the getting involved in the in the greek debacle? and is that tie really flag or isn't it really a greek flag or isn't it i of column i mean, quite a lot of column inches dedicated to that. >> it looks a lot like the greek flag. >> it takes a little bit of space away from the harry and meghan nonsense. does look meghan nonsense. it does look a lot the pocket square lot like. and the pocket square was as was greek as well. >> a the nose, >> it was a bit on the nose, actually . actually. >> conversation somewhere actually. >> con as'sation somewhere actually. >> con as'satio have 1ewhere actually. >> con as'satio have comere actually. >> con as'satio have come in else might as well have come in riding and smashing plates. >> you know, could that >> you know, i could say that i'm or i'm back i'm half greek or i'm back off. all okay well, that's.

all right. okay well, that's. that's basically it. that's basically think basically it for us now. i think . a we've got . i think we've got a we've got something bring you something else to bring you very, very shortly. but thank you very much. was you very, very much. that was a royal commentator, judyta de silva large of silva and editor at large of daily charlotte griffith . daily mail. charlotte griffith. okay. so coming up, yes, there is a well, it's an exclusive, a big exclusive, actually, with nigel farage is no longer secret girlfriend lor ferrari. she was getting badgered by a lot of media outlets , but she decided media outlets, but she decided obviously , that gb news was the obviously, that gb news was the place to get her story out there. she's let loose on what it's like to live with nigel and her thoughts on his chances of being prime minister you won't want to miss that. she addresses a lot of rumours that been a lot of rumours that have been flying recently as well. flying around recently as well. there's taster of to there's a little taster of to what's come in that whatever , what's come in that whatever, you nigel goes. you know, if nigel goes. >> saying he is going to >> i'm not saying he is going to do yeah yeah. but he would do it. yeah yeah. but he would be. a good prime be. he would be a good prime minister. i would say that. be. he would be a good prime mirbutn i would say that. be. he would be a good prime mir but next,>uld say that. be. he would be a good prime mirbut next, english that. be. he would be a good prime mir but next, english football >> but next, english football hoouganis >> but next, english football hooligan is are something of history aren't they. they, they get a bad rep but last night it

kicked off big time at villa park. but it wasn't the english fans doing it. no it was foreign football hooligans . well, here football hooligans. well, here to find out whether or not engush to find out whether or not english fans still get a bad rep , i would speak to the , i thought i would speak to the most football fan the most famous football fan in the country . country. >> yup. bumpy, bumpy. >> yup. bumpy, bumpy. >> fly up . >> fly up. >> fly up. >> yeah, it'll be great. i'm speaking to die hard pompey fc fan john portsmouth football club. westwood. after aston villa fans did say that all hell broke loose before the european fixture with legia warsaw yesterday . our english footy yesterday. our english footy fans getting a bad rep that they don't

now last night, 46 people were arrested outside villa park ahead of a football match between aston villa and legia warsaw after violence broke out.

some of the scenes were absolutely disgraceful . all absolutely disgraceful. all police officers were attacked . police officers were attacked. there were being lit. there were flares being lit. there were flares being lit. there was missiles thrown there was missiles being thrown into the crowd. it was terrible for officers were injured in the clashes with crucially away fans. foreign football thugs. west midlands police said that their officers who had flares thrown at them, amongst other stuff, were faced with disgusting and highly dangerous scenes from fans polish scenes from fans of the polish club . now we do seem to see club. now we do seem to see engush club. now we do seem to see english football fans get such a bad reputation all over the world. i mean, this specific bout of violence has been attributed to their side visiting villa park. but you know, football hooliganism is always associated with the engush always associated with the english and everyone seems to want a go at us, don't want to have a go at us, don't they? whenever we travel abroad, just the french just look at the way the french police attacked those liverpool fans champions fans ahead of that champions league encounter a couple of seasons . well, i wanted to seasons ago. well, i wanted to know english footie fans are know why english footie fans are always not always blamed despite not actually often doing much actually that often doing much wrong. as far as i can tell. earlier i spoke to a very familiar face. he's pompey fan

john portsmouth westward, and he gave us his thoughts. i'm just i'm just going to ask you first, see if you think that that engush see if you think that that english football fans get an unfair reputation or do you think when it comes to violence , think when it comes to violence, england fans do get an unfair reputation ? reputation? >> i mean, obviously, we had a violent element years ago, but that was 20, 30 years ago. >> but it still seems to surround us and we get england fans get targeted by the authorities when we're abroad. >> they get targeted by opposing fans , i.e. the russians and fans, i.e. the russians and things like this. >> and there's other clubs around this, around the world who are far worse than us or other countries that the russians and things like this and the poles and look at look at what happened with brazil and argentina the other night and you don't get any major disorder. i know we had some at the, uh, european cup final against italy, but apart from that , we against italy, but apart from that, we don't against italy, but apart from that , we don't get against italy, but apart from that, we don't get any more now. and it's the authorities and

other fans are living in the past, in my opinion. >> okay. and why do you think, though , why do you think that though, why do you think that british football fans have such a bad reputation ? i mean, was it a bad reputation? i mean, was it was it worth saying the 70s and the 80s and it's all moved on now ? now? >> it was definitely worse than the 70s and the 80s. we had a very violent reputation and you can't deny that. and it was , you can't deny that. and it was, you know, you look back, but the past is the past and we haven't the police and the authorities have clamped down on it in this country now. >> but we still, the authorities and the and the fans from the other countries who have followed us, they're trying to emulate us and try to be like i would say, like the millwall of the we're basically like the millwall of international football . football. >> we've had this violent reputation and we don't seem to be able to get rid of it. and it's something on our back and

we get we do get targeted we do get we do get targeted without a doubt. and it is really frustrating because it's the in this country the football in this country isn't that violent. there's still an element there. of course there there always course there is. there always will be. when will be. and when you get passion and football and winning and losing and rivalries, you're always going to have some element that is going to latch on to that. but right now, we are very fairly untreated , i are very fairly untreated, i think, and i think it's a throwback. people haven't grasped the fact that we've moved on, but they don't seem to have and we're an easy target. we're an easy target. >> that's an important point, though, actually, about being an easy what easy target, because what i think happens and we've seen it in international tournaments, seen at world cup, we've seen it at world cup, so we've seen it at world cup, so we've seen euros. and seen it at the euros. and i suspect it last at suspect we saw it last night at villa actually, villa park actually, where people whose clubs don't often play people whose clubs don't often play english teams the play english teams get the chance to play english teams or the english national team. and because of our reputation for quite enjoying a scrap back in the day , they see that as their

the day, they see that as their opportunity and they pile in, not realising that we've changed, we've outgrown it in exactly. >> you couldn't you couldn't have put it better, really. we've outgrown it. we've moved on.and we've outgrown it. we've moved on. and they're to prove on. and they're trying to prove themselves against us. um, we've got nothing to prove because we're not trying to prove anything these days. years ago it would have happened. and you know , they would have had a good know, they would have had a good battle. but nowadays they're just living off our past reputation . they want to try and reputation. they want to try and prove themselves. we're like the big you know, the big the big guy in the in the playground. and the little ones want to come up and prove themselves. but the big doesn't really want not big guy doesn't really want not bothered anymore. done it. bothered anymore. he's done it. he's it and they've moved he's proved it and they've moved on and it is a real strange one, if i'm honest. on and it is a real strange one, if i'm honest . and it's if i'm honest. and it's something that needs looking at more by the authorities and by the international authorities is that england isn't this violent set of fans anymore ? are we

set of fans anymore? are we still. yeah there we go. >> all right. so look , coming >> all right. so look, coming up, my world exclusive interview with nigel farage is over half law ferrari . now she shares some law ferrari. now she shares some explosive lies with me about what it's like to live with a man and also his potential political ambitions going forward. as well. they also address some recent things that have been put out there in the press and she clears up a few rumours about her being a secret girlfriend and about things about whether or not she was put on his payroll and all of that kind of stuff. also there were allegations as well about whether or not she's really going out to australia and she doesn't hold back when it comes to the way she thinks nigel has been treated in the jungle and people in the jungle who are giving him a little bit of stick, there's a little taste of here of something that's to come that whatever you know, if nigel goes, i'm not saying he is going to do it. >> yeah. yeah. but he would be. he a good prime

he would be a good prime minister. would that. minister. i would say that. and i he do good job i think he would do a good job at it. >> okay. so i promise you it is an unfiltered interview. and i think it definitely shows nigel in a rather unique light about what life is like to support and to live with to and love. one of the most notorious men in british politics. all of that is coming your way very , very coming your way very, very shortly right here on patrick christys tonight. you will not want to miss it. i'll see you in a tick. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers . the sponsors of boxed boilers. the sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. turning cold out there this evening and it's going to stay pretty cold for most of us this weekend. ice and snow showers in places and a pretty hard frost . low pressure kind of hard frost. low pressure kind of drifting away from the uk. so the cold air that's in place isn't going anywhere . some fog isn't going anywhere. some fog thickening up tonight as well.

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you will not have seen before. in other news, migrant hotel madness because the government has out. yes, they has been caught out. yes, they said that they were shutting migrant hotels. well, turns migrant hotels. well, it turns out been moving out they've just been moving them to other hotels instead. but stopped but this hasn't stopped rishi banging rwanda today. banging on about rwanda today. >> paul kagame obviously we >> paul kagame is obviously we have a deep partnership with rwanda, which he's committed to as a mine . as a mine. >> yeah, we are in the sense that we keep giving them shedloads of money for a load of people we're actually people that we're not actually sending got sending there. but i've got tomorrow's newspaper front pages today, so you will of today, so you will be ahead of the tomorrow's the game with all of tomorrow's news sofa tonight, news and on the sofa tonight, it's team of the mail on it's my top team of the mail on sundays. at large sundays. editor at large charlotte griffiths , who the charlotte griffiths, who got the bbc john sergeant the bbc icon john sergeant and the only star junaid only way is essex star junaid ahmed. absolutely top panel it's a very special hour coming your way christys tonight . way on patrick christys tonight. very shortly. i will bring you that exclusive with laura

ferrari, the woman behind nigel's throne, as it were. it's the first time that she's spoken on television . and we're going on television. and we're going to go to that after the headunes. headlines. >> thanks, patrick. good evening. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top stories . newsroom. our top stories. greenpeace has accused rishi sunak of showing no leadership over climate change after he failed to mention phasing out fossil fuels during his speech at cop 28. addressing the summit in dubai, the pm announced £1.6 billion for international climate finance, and he promised that the government's green policies would not hurt taxpayers pockets. he also urged major polluting countries to follow the uk's lead in slashing emissions. the united kingdom is totally committed to net zero. >> the paris agreement and to keeping 1.5 alive. that's why we've decarbonised faster than any other major economy . our any other major economy. our 2030 target. it means the

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>> well, that's exclusive interview with nigel farage is girlfriend your very girlfriend coming your way very shortly. but before that, we've got to address got some other news to address because government because is the government just rearranging the decking on the titanic migrant titanic when it comes to migrant hotels spending about hotels? we're spending about £82 a day on migrant £8.2 million a day on migrant hotels . and they pledged to get hotels. and they pledged to get rid them but it rid of 50 of them asap. but it looks like migrants are being moved one hotel and just moved out of one hotel and just bussed into others. emerged bussed into others. it's emerged that in a folkestone that migrants in a folkestone hotel in kent were just shifted to london and to sites in london and bournemouth. so is this really going to save us money? i'm not sure it will. i suspect that it might have just been a token attempt to pretend to be doing something. saw a couple of something. we saw a couple of days ago, didn't we? the home office officials didn't really have clue if anyone been have a clue if anyone had been deported failing deported after failing with their asylum application. that deported after failing with theof asylum application. that deported after failing with theof course, application. that deported after failing with theof course, ifiplication. that deported after failing with theof course, if they've n. that deported after failing with theof course, if they've evenat is, of course, if they've even processed today , processed anybody. and today, rishi sunak, stood up in rishi sunak, he stood up in dubai at cop28, the climate conference and he told us, danny, about the rwanda plan. it's going us billions it's going to save us billions of the long run . and of pounds in the long run. and now we've still got a really

close relationship with rwanda. this such a vital issue for this is such a vital issue for the uk , so it's important that the uk, so it's important that we get details of all of the uk, so it's important that we (right. details of all of this right. >> but that's we're doing. >> but that's what we're doing. we're process of we're in the process of finalising and i forward finalising it and i look forward to these proposals to bringing these proposals before the before parliament and the british public soon. and they will make it crystal clear that rwanda is a country for the rwanda is a safe country for the purposes of our scheme . purposes of our scheme. >> well, look, bearing in mind that this guy's just appointed someone who allegedly thinks the rwanda scheme is and i'm quoting now, batshit and doesn't believe in even considering leaving the echr as our home secretary i think he might just be fiddling while rome burns. he knows that by the time they've updated by the time that they've updated the wording, put it the legal wording, put it through parliament and it's been dragged through the courts, he probably office. probably won't be in office. so we'll actually be we'll never actually be confronted with the situation of him having the man who him having to be the man who gets off gets flights to rwanda off the ground costs. don't ground at all costs. i don't think heart's in it. i think think his heart's in it. i think he's much more at home talking about intelligence. about artificial intelligence. presumably he thinks the public doesn't have any real intelligence because can all intelligence because we can all see that heart's not in it see that his heart's not in it at all when it comes to a legal

or legal migration. but to respond this now, i'm respond to all of this now, i'm joined again by former bbc chief political john political correspondent john sergeant . i've got towie star sergeant. i've got towie star junaid ahmed and the editor at large for the mail sunday, large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. charlotte again, i'll start my way with you and work my way down the panel you and work my way down the panel. you, do you think he panel. do you, do you think he is gratuitously lying to the is now gratuitously lying to the british public about how much he cares things rwanda? cares about things like rwanda? well i think by how much he cares. >> well, he says he cares a lot about the details, doesn't he? yeah, he didn't think anyone would notice the details, that he's moving migrants out of hotels hotels in hotels in kent, into hotels in london, which, the way, london, which, by the way, presumably expensive . i presumably are more expensive. i think london think hotel rooms in london are extreme expensive of extreme expensive and some of them pimlico and them are in pimlico and belgravia, so, i suppose he belgravia, even so, i suppose he just doesn't really care that much. he all he hopes that we don't, but it's obviously a really pressing issue that we all care about deeply. yeah i mean, make it work. >> john views on that then? >> john your views on that then? really, there seems to really, because there seems to be a lot duplicitous be a lot of duplicitous behaviour i behaviour that takes place. i know that's nothing new for politics, but just annoying

politics, but it's just annoying , which is this idea , isn't it? which is this idea of we're going to shut 50 clammed up, shut close 50 migrant hotels . all right, fine. migrant hotels. all right, fine. you're still putting them in other hotels? yeah. >> mean, think problem >> i mean, i think the problem is about is that they've got about a backlog of around 30,000 people, all who are asylum seekers whose claims have not been processed . claims have not been processed. now, if they don't get that down rapidly, you've got all sorts of people who they've got to look after. they've got to put somewhere and that's where the reality comes in. and therefore you're saying, what do we do now 7 you're saying, what do we do now ? now, because we've said we must out of hotels. must get them out of hotels. what happens now? you can't move them community earn them into the community to earn jobs they've not had jobs because they've not had their application processed and you've got the shambles now of the rwanda campaign, which as far as i'm concerned, they're just not going to get past the lawyers. well, it's all very well saying we will produce proposals soon, but why don't they? the idea that you'll get something and the proposals seem to be that we'll get the

parliament, our parliament to say that rwanda is a safe country. well you can't just say, well, we'll vote for that. it's either a safe country or it's not. but the supreme court judge judges took evidence on this point from outside experts. well if they do that again, you can't simply say. but the house of commons have voted that it's a safe country. i mean , it's a safe country. i mean, it's either it is or it isn't . either it is or it isn't. >> a lot of people would argue that that you should just do that. oh, well, because because at the end of the day, you know, we are we are democracy. this we are we are a democracy. this is a really interesting point about but we about we are a democracy, but we also rule law. when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic rule law. when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic votea law. when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic vote for law. when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic vote for aaw. when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic vote for a party when about we are a democracy, but we alscpublic vote for a party thaten the public vote for a party that says they want to control immigration and get tough on asylum seekers and all of this stuff, illegal asylum seekers say, expect there's say, then they expect there's something to be done about that. but then i suppose you get but then i suppose if you get a supreme that pops up and supreme court that pops up and says, well, the policy says, well, the actual policy is, view, is, is not legal in our view, then where where do you land on that? can i you, that? janay can i ask you, how do feel about the rwanda do you feel about the rwanda

scheme sending scheme and sending sending people to rwanda to be processed ? >> and 7- >> and i'll 7— >> and i'll be ? >> and i'll be honest, 7 >> and i'll be honest, i ? >> and i'll be honest, i think immigration itself has been a talking point for so many years. and is there are we actually getting any further with it? i think the fact of moving them from is just what from hotels, hotels is just what is even going on. i'll be personally for me, it just makes me sad, really. i just me a bit sad, really. i just think no where is the think there's no where is the end point for this? do we actually see the grand scheme actually see the grand scheme actually happening? will it actually happening? will it actually difference? will actually happening? will it ac actually difference? will actually happening? will it ac actually itdifference? will actually happening? will it ac actually it actuallya? will it actually will it actually happen itself? do you know what i and think end happen itself? do you know what i the and think end happen itself? do you know what i the day,|d think end happen itself? do you know what i the day, there's|k end happen itself? do you know what i the day, there's so end happen itself? do you know what i the day, there's so many end of the day, there's so many opinion on from so many opinion on this from so many different people what different people. what is actually be end actually going to be the end goal? it actually happen? goal? will it actually happen? and are actually taking and are we actually taking people's feelings into consideration moving it to consideration by moving it to one to another? is for me one place to another? is for me personally, there's so much going on. my little brain sometimes can't handle it. >> no, fair enough . okay, >> no, fair enough. okay, charlotte, go on. i'll answer this then. what do you think about ? about? >> well, he was saying, you know, people moving from one >> well, he was saying, you know, to sople moving from one >> well, he was saying, you know, to the; moving from one >> well, he was saying, you know, to the other. ng from one >> well, he was saying, you know, to the other. ng frorabout place to the other. think about the actual people. weren't you? and good point

and i think that's a good point because although they can't integrate by integrate like john said, by getting jobs, them getting jobs, some of them in kent started kent actually had started to form some kent actually had started to forthem some kent actually had started to forthem studying some kent actually had started to forthem studying getting ome kent actually had started to forthem studying getting an; of them were studying getting an education in one way or another. and just heaved and they've just been heaved up and somewhere else . and and shoved somewhere else. and it's damaging to it's kind of very damaging to the integration. >> i ask , though, should >> could i ask, though, should the priority not be people who are already here in british taxpayers and therefore or who's thinking of those feelings? people are voting for things that you know, mean that they want control all of this. want to control all of this. every time the public are surveyed, the rwanda scheme is actually deeply actually nowhere near as deeply unpopular would like to unpopular as you would like to believe. read certain believe. if you read certain news outlets. and the public seems to be being left in seems to be being left behind in all this, we can consider all of this, we can consider other as other people's feelings as much as we like. but what about our own mean, as you can own john? no, i mean, as you can see, this see, the public feeling on this incredibly strong people want immigration brought down. >> they want it to be fair . they >> they want it to be fair. they want to be controlled. it was obviously one of the main reasons why people voted for brexit, because the promise was that would take control. that we would take control. everyone able to see everyone would be able to see what would happen . none of those

what would happen. none of those things have come to fruition, partly because because the lawyers are always busy sort of thinking , lawyers are always busy sort of thinking, well, if we do a bit of this, a bit of that, this is a cottage industry. it's not a simple equation of the public feel this, therefore it's right. but it's such a big thing at the moment. >> there's such a big industry. you've got the actual human traffickers are real world traffickers who are real world criminals getting involved in this you've then got this. you've also then got certain groups, you know, ostensibly charity groups who i think sometimes do do certainly not do anything to stop the illegal crossing of human beings. right. and the risks that all come with that. you then got an army of lawyers that you're alluding to . you've got you're alluding to. you've got groups charged with groups that are charged with doing the security at these hotels . so you add all of that hotels. so you add all of that up this is billions and up and this is billions and billions and billions of pounds. there's facilitates there's a guy who facilitates a lot hotels who's was lot of these hotels who's was one of britain's highest earners last year. there is not a huge incentive for people to get that down can i ask you, do down today. can i ask you, do you people should shy you think people should shy

away, know, out there in the away, you know, out there in the real world, it's actually maybe your etcetera. your friend group, etcetera. do your friend group, etcetera. do you from you think they shy away from talking when talking about immigration when they they they hear it coming up? do they just retreat? >> oh, i think in some cases, potentially, think the potentially, yes. i think the understanding of it. do people actually fully understand the behind the scenes of it, the actual facts about it? and i think especially for people around age, do actually around my age, do we actually know so much about it? i've learned by doing today learned by doing research today quite about it than quite a bit more about it than i ever know. if i'm being ever did know. if i'm being completely is completely honest, is that is that information accessible to everyone? being spoken everyone? is it being spoken about so people can about so more people can understand ? i think is understand it? i think that is the thing in today's society. do we actually know the facts and figures about it? quite a lot of us here are well in terms and also also you make a really also but also you make a really good point because had good point because we had a sitting this week, a scrutiny committee which has gone down in in now where you say, do in infamy now where you say, do we know all the facts and figures about it? >> well, you committee >> well, you have a committee designed to grill the people who are supposed be enforcing designed to grill the people who are sthe)sed be enforcing designed to grill the people who are sthe top be enforcing designed to grill the people who are sthe top civile enforcing designed to grill the people who are sthe top civil servants1g designed to grill the people who are sthe top civil servants at this. the top civil servants at the home office. they're the home office. and they're asked really basic questions

like how asylum seekers like how many asylum seekers that have been found to not have a case for asylum have been deported in the i he deported in the last i mean, he started out few weeks, then started out last few weeks, then he then he went he went months, then he went years. have years. and he didn't have an answer that. and then answer for any of that. and then he many people he went, well, how many people have on run? have basically on the run? and it was 17,000 it turned out it was 17,000 people. and then they were asked a load of other questions as well. you really have to tease it i think we're it out. so i don't think we're as informed we should be as well informed as we should be on are sure? on this stuff, are we sure? >> think so. i saw that >> i don't think so. i saw that as was completely, as well. he was completely, utterly wasn't he? and as well. he was completely, utterjust wasn't he? and as well. he was completely, utterjust don't wasn't he? and as well. he was completely, utterjust don't known't he? and as well. he was completely, utterjust don't know the |e? and they just don't know the numbers. and when they do grab they just don't know the nua bers. and when they do grab they just don't know the nua bers. an orvhen they do grab they just don't know the nua bers. an or clawthey do grab they just don't know the nua bers. an or claw upy do grab they just don't know the nua bers. an or claw up ado grab they just don't know the nua bers. an or claw up a number, at a number or claw up a number, you don't have any faith you just don't have any faith that really are they that they really know. are they just because it just saying 17,000? because it sounds like something they should also they're so >> i think also they're just so worried point worried when it's a simple point of saying, look , are you an of saying, look, are you an immigrant? do mean? i'm immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grimm? and are you from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim havend are you from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim have that are you from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim have that . are you from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim have that . butire you from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim have that . but look,u from? immigrant? what do you mean? i'm a grim have that . but look, canym? i can't have that. but look, can we just say , where were you we just say, where were you brought up ? i'm not sure i want brought up? i'm not sure i want to answer that . so how old are to answer that. so how old are you? you know, big issue, you know, so the whole sort of business of let's be careful in this area means that the sort of

simple point about who are these 17,000 who haven't bothered to complete the process. >> but it's not rocket science, is it? it's not rocket science. if you've made the effort to come from wherever you've come to, i think it's very difficult. no, no, efforts will to, i think it's very difficult. no, from efforts will to, i think it's very difficult. no, from whereverefforts will to, i think it's very difficult. no, from whereverefforts vcome to, i think it's very difficult. no,and om whereverefforts vcome to, i think it's very difficult. no,and you nhereverefforts vcome to, i think it's very difficult. no,and you think/erefforts vcome to. and you think there's a whiff that somebody might be about somewhere? about to deport you somewhere? you'd wouldn't you? you'd like it, wouldn't you? chuckling you'd like it, wouldn't you? chucheen doing coming up in my have been doing coming up in my exclusive interview with nigel farage, laura farage, his other half, laura ferrari. some really ferrari. she shares some really incredible actually with incredible lines, actually with me what it's like to live me about what it's like to live with a big with a man behind such a big image that whatever, you know , image that whatever, you know, if nigel goes back, i'm not saying he is going to do it. >> yeah but he would he >> yeah. yeah but he would be he would prime minister would be a good prime minister he that and i think he he would say that and i think he would good. he would say that and i think he wotyeah. good. he would say that and i think he wotyeah. okay. you're going >> yeah. okay. you're not going to but also, to want to miss that. but also, i've most entertaining i've got the most entertaining paper review that you get paper review that you will get anywhere telly in my anywhere on the telly in my press tomorrow's press pack with tomorrow's newspaper today. press pack with tomorrow's newsp doing today. press pack with tomorrow's newsp doing bit today. press pack with tomorrow's newsp doing bit early. '. press pack with tomorrow's new frontng bit early. '. press pack with tomorrow's new front pages bit early. '. press pack with tomorrow's new front pages havet early. '. press pack with tomorrow's new front pages have just ly. '. the front pages have just landed, if landed, so don't go to bed if you want out all about you want to find out all about nigel farage's so—called secret girlfriend and also his top of tomorrow's news took

views, the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> okay , now, welcome back. the >> okay, now, welcome back. the very first front pages have just been delivered hot off the press. and we're going to be going in with this one that's on the front of the daily mail. and it is thousand skip school to go on gaza marches. so they're back at it. there's also a really interesting exclusive actually here, which is kate's uncle,

gary scobie is a weasel. so there's some quite interesting stuff there. and here's just digest. this is anna mikhailova, deputy political editor at the mail on sunday. so anna, i'll bnng mail on sunday. so anna, i'll bring you straight in on the mail. if that's all right. so firstly , we children as young as firstly, we children as young as seven on pro—palestinian rallies. a report reveals what's the what's the detail on this? and as far as we know , oh, have and as far as we know, oh, have we lost her? >> oh, so this is a report that's just come out that carry on, anna, carry . on on, anna, carry. on >> so reports come out showing that sometimes teachers are even encourage urging children to go to marches to skip school for them. >> and even telling parents that they'll waive fines because obviously now there are fines for kids that are truant. and of course , this all massively course, this all massively raises the question of after covid, we've had such a problem of children skipping school and being absent from school and,

you know, it's absolutely inexcusable that that teachers are turning a blind eye to kids missing even more school to make political statements . political statements. >> yeah, this is exactly what a lot of people were expecting to happen, which is how soft touch the is to be on the school is going to be on this. out incredibly this. it turns out incredibly and just you on this, and can i just get you on this, this exclusive that's this exclusive here that's on the uncle gary the front gate, uncle gary scobie is a weasel that's going to be on pages eight and nine of the daily mail tomorrow that plans quite explosive , i imagine. >> yeah, i've just read it. he has written an absolutely explosive. is the word article about omid scobie's new book and particularly this accidental naming in a manuscript of kate as allegedly one of the royal racists . and he just destroys . racists. and he just destroys. omid. scobie points out that he's a fantasist. he's got form in being a fantasist and basically just says, why has he written this absolute takedown of kate his this , you know, his of kate his this, you know, his niece who omid scobie not only doesn't know , is littered with

doesn't know, is littered with inaccuracies . so, yes, it's inaccuracies. so, yes, it's definitely worth a read tomorrow. >> yeah, it will be. i think you've done a cracking job of teasing now. now i'll be going out buying the mail first out and buying the mail first thing and presumably as well this , probably possibly got this well, probably possibly got the nod from kevin. not a lot goes out there about kate without her maybe knowing about it. but of course, nobody could ever reveal their source in that sense. and thank you very much. i'm so sorry it's been so squeezed. because we've squeezed. but it's because we've got quite a big exclusive coming our to our way. so i'm just going to bnng our way. so i'm just going to bring anna bring that to people as anna mikhailova there. deputy political on political editor at the mail on sunday, front on sunday, cracking front page on the mail. i've just about got time. run the time. well, to run through the other pages . so here we other front pages. so here we go. are going in with the go. we are going in with the i so revealed how cigarette giants are plotting to block new uk smoking ban so the tobacco lobby getting involved there. we go to the times johnson my covid decision to save lives. but mistakes were made ex pm will tell inquiry there's a leak going on basically about everything that boris johnson is going to tell the covid inquiry.

the independent king charles. we are headed for dangerous , are headed for dangerous, uncharted territory now he's not talking about you, harry. they say king ignores royal racism. row the sun. well, yes. royals face split beyond repair. end game bbc named king as royal at centre of race row . they're just centre of race row. they're just saying that relations between charles and harry are even lower than they were. we go to the mirror. oh, i'm a celebrity exclusive. get him out of there, viewers were last night urged to boot nigel farage out of i'm a celebrity over his divisive views. labour mp nadia whittome said he is a deeply poisonous influence who should be denied a platform. interesting isn't it? because he's not actually done a single thing wrong since he's beenin single thing wrong since he's been in there, so maybe that's why to cancel him. the why they want to cancel him. the daily don't believe daily express don't believe doubters. migrant doubters. rwanda migrant deal is on. spoken a bit about on. we've spoken a bit about that tonight. now i'm going to whiz through with my panel. charlotte, start with charlotte, can i just start with you on this now, i have got you on this one? now, i have got an exclusive nigel farage is his girlfriend. up at girlfriend. coming up shortly at the the mirror . they

the front of the mirror. they want of there. he's want him out of there. he's a he's a deeply poisonous want him out of there. he's a he's a de> claims and what it's >> racism claims and what it's like to be surrounded by the kind of nigel farage ferrara so we'll hear from that and john, can i just bring you in on this one, if that's all right about bons one, if that's all right about boris johnson at the covid inquiry? sorry. i mean, it's being leaked out. what he's going to say possibly by boris johnson . to be fair, it'd be johnson. to be fair, it'd be nice if he did it on this channel, but there we go. former prime minister will apologise channel, but there we go. former prirdeathsister will apologise channel, but there we go. former prirdeaths but will apologise channel, but there we go. former prirdeaths but defend ologise for deaths but defend his government's apparently. yeah. no think think >> yeah. no i think he i think it's he's got a very strong hand has been played at all yet has not been played at all yet which that of most which is that many of the most controversial that controversial things that happened the covid period happened during the covid period the public were egging people

and egging the government to make sure that the lock down took place and that people should be restricted in what they were doing . and the story they were doing. and the story that's being told in the that's now being told in the inquiry completely different inquiry is completely different ont of there are these people saying, well, we should have locked down or should have locked down or should we have done the public done this? but the public feeling at the time is somehow being left out of the whole discussion and you feel like saying, i don't let's, saying, i don't want. let's, let's let's talk about politics without any reference to politics. and of course, the politics. and of course, the politics of time . i remember politics of the time. i remember it clearly. were it very clearly. people were saying, please, please, we must have more restrictions. we must close down the schools. we must do this. >> they were they were getting hammered all the time. don't kill. killing people . kill. you're killing people. >> killing you're >> you're killing me. you're doing nothing think doing nothing. and i think from bons doing nothing. and i think from boris johnson's point of view, and sure this will be true and i'm sure this will be true when speaks, people think , when he speaks, people think, oh, perhaps, you know, and oh, yeah, perhaps, you know, and he covid himself. he he nearly got covid himself. he did and nearly did get covid himself and nearly died. the idea that that he died. and the idea that that he was sort of a lot of the time, it seemed me, looking it it seemed to me, looking at it from was busy locked up .

from home, i was busy locked up. you felt at least boris is trying . to be cheerful. at least trying. to be cheerful. at least he's trying to keep the show on the road, even though they clearly clue what's clearly haven't a clue what's going what was going on. nobody knew what was going on. nobody knew what was going on. >> jeanette, you a bit over >> jeanette, are you a bit over there? like covid chat ? >> jeanette, are you a bit over there? like covid chat? is >> jeanette, are you a bit over there? like covid chat ? is it? there? like covid chat? is it? or do you feel as though people need to be held to account? what or do you feel as though people ne i think definitely >> i think it's definitely it was huge point for was a huge turning point for most. of us have most. i mean, none of us have ever anything most. i mean, none of us have evbeing anything most. i mean, none of us have evbeing in anything most. i mean, none of us have evbeing in lockdown.:hing most. i mean, none of us have evbeing in lockdown. you| most. i mean, none of us have ev being in lockdown. you know most. i mean, none of us have ev beiig in lockdown. you know most. i mean, none of us have evbeii mean? kdown. you know most. i mean, none of us have evbeii mean? k

what's coming out. >> part of me thinks all >> part of me thinks this is all hindsight . >> part of me thinks this is all hindsight. hindsight is 2020. there's load of people lying there's a load of people lying to cover themselves up, etcetera. anyway, they etcetera. anyway, are they asking questions at asking the right questions at these i'm not these covid inquiries? i'm not really they coming really sure they are. but coming up , my exclusive interview with up, my exclusive interview with nigel farage is now not so secret girlfriend laura ferrari. so shares some explosive so she shares some explosive thoughts on nigel's appearance in the jungle and whether he would actually make prime would actually make a good prime minister she responds to racism allegations and some mistruths put out there in the media about their well. make their relationship as well. make sure you stay tuned . absolutely sure you stay tuned. absolutely no reason to go to bed . nigel's no reason to go to bed. nigel's girlfriend up

radio. >> that's the last thing . >> that's the last thing. >> that's the last thing. >> well, this exclusive with nigel farage is girlfriend . law nigel farage is girlfriend. law is incredibly timely because the front of the mirror, they've just done quite a big number on him, really. they've used it to labour party members. labour mp

nadia whittome and her colleague kim johnson , to call for nigel kim johnson, to call for nigel farage to be booted out of the jungle for things like having a deeply poisonous influence and pursuing a racist narrative of. i think it is interesting , pursuing a racist narrative of. i think it is interesting, isn't it? because i'm just reading here that nadia whitham held a commons meeting with an activist who said that plotting zionists would be removed from the middle east. also reading here about kim johnson having to apologise earlier this year for calling israel a fascist state. so it will be fascinating to maybe get them the show so can them on the show so they can justify their as justify their views. but as nigel makes waves in the jungle, we are of course missing him here and i did have a here at gb news and i did have a chance sit with his chance to sit down with his girlfriend, laura ferrari , for girlfriend, laura ferrari, for the time. she's never the very first time. she's never done television done a television interview before to learn a little bit more about the man and also for to her respond to some of the claims that have been out there in recent days. so, laura, how are you? >> i'm great. >> i'm great. >> i'm great. >> i'm doing well.

>> i'm doing well. >> little bit nervous ? >> little bit nervous? >> little bit nervous? >> just a bit. >> just a bit. >> yeah. it's not exactly the sort of thing i usually do, but hey, you know, because it's you . hey, you know, because it's you. because it's gb news. i think i should be part of, you because it's gb news. i think i should be part of , you know, should be part of, you know, should be part of, you know, should be part of, you know, should be part of it. and do my bit. >> now, you you don't court pubuchy. >> now, you you don't court publicity . that's fair to say. publicity. that's fair to say. this is very unusual for you. so why did you decide that you wanted to do an interview today? >> well, i suppose to show a bit of support for nigel. and also i've been reading all sorts of, you know , nonsensical articles you know, nonsensical articles about me being a secret golf and i'm not secret. i'm here, you know, i'm here. all our friends or, you know, family members know who i am. so i sort of, you know, want to come out . uh, i'm know, want to come out. uh, i'm not the secret girlfriend. i do exist. and i do support nigel. it's very important for me to say that. >> how did it make you feel reading some of those things then? well, it's a bit upsetting because it's all news as well. >> um , i don't know. it just

>> um, i don't know. it just full of inaccurate is really like, apparently i'm a french politician. well if i were a french politician, i would be doing a very bad job, you know, drinking in an english pub, you know , that wouldn't be great. know, that wouldn't be great. that wouldn't be a good start. and things like, you know , and things like, you know, you're a bit of everything. and i think that what the journalists have been doing i think that what the journaists have been doing i think that what the journais they've been doing i think that what the journais they've been a)ing i think that what the journais they've been a bit| really is they've been a bit lazy and sort of taking, you know, the news and trying to turn it into you news. but it's fake news. so anyway, i didn't feel great. but hey, that's what the press is like , isn't it? the press is like, isn't it? >> well, i mean, you're obviously an incredibly strong lady, but it must have taken a bit of guts to watch nigel in the jungle. >> no, that's the easy bit. you must be joking. it's the easy bit. i want to see him because the worst thing really in life is because we are not in touch. we. they can't communicate with the outside world. so i haven't spoken to him in days. like, you know, is it more than is it 15 days, something like that . yes. days, something like that. yes. so i'm pleased to see him, even

if it's not always nice. you know, it's i'd rather see him doing nasty things rather than not see him at all, if that makes sense. so i'm all for it. >> so that first night that he went in and the first footage that went out, what was it like for you? were you were you a bit nervous? >> e- e no, no , seriously, >> no, no, no, no, seriously, i wasn't because i actually believe in him. i know that if anyone can do it, that's him. is so resilient. i mean, he has the resilience of a million men. he's mentally strong and also, he likes a challenge . he likes he likes a challenge. he likes a new challenge, you know, and i think he sees this as a bit of an experience, a new experience. so, you know, i think he's doing great. and i'm fully confident that. >> let's talk about some of the things that have been going on in the jungle. now. are very in the jungle. now. we are very much at the mercy of edit , much at the mercy of the edit, of course, it comes to of course, when it comes to these think these things, which i think was probably for probably the biggest gamble for him there. yeah, him going in there. yeah, especially with the way the media quite stacked media is often quite stacked against there was against him. so there was a couple of head to heads with

with fred. yes. and arch remainer. i know. god, god , what remainer. i know. god, god, what do you make of that? >> oh, he annoyed me. oh, he annoyed me. and forget, annoyed me. and don't forget, i'm you know, i'm i'm a french, you know, i'm a french myself. was french person myself. and i was like, well , isn't it a french person myself. and i was like, well, isn't it a bit french person myself. and i was like, well , isn't it a bit rude like, well, isn't it a bit rude to come a different country to come from a different country and lecturing the british electorate or anyone about the way the british people voted in 2016? i'm just thinking , well, 2016? i'm just thinking, well, how would i feel being in france if an englishman or a german person, you know, even worse person, you know, even worse came person, you know, even worse came just to say, hey, you voted badly, shame on you. and why did you?i badly, shame on you. and why did you? i just think it's out of place , to be honest with you. place, to be honest with you. but to be fair to fred, he sort of he made peace with nigel and then they shared a couple of jokes and that was it. and then i think he came back, you know, dee dee dee dee dee dee a bit. yeah a bit. that's fine. it's fine. >> and nigel's used to these discussions and i mean, he didn't back down did he? >> it's easy peasy these people are really like . i mean they're are really like. i mean they're not, they're not your problem.

he's been dealing with enemies and attacks and jokes for decades. you know we're talking about actually serious stuff like death threats or, you know, threats on your family members and things like that . so having and things like that. so having and things like that. so having an argument with fred ornella is really not going to faze him at all. it'll be fine. i think the other thing which you've raised there, she essential accused him of being a racist or not being popular with black people specifically. >> she said . and she also blamed >> she said. and she also blamed that on the internet that she read on the internet . how do you read on the internet. how do you think nigel dealt with that ? think nigel dealt with that? >> very well. and i feel sorry for nella . i think she for nella. i think she epitomises that snowflake generation where they are told that they should be offended by every little thing and it's not a good place to be when you're offended and upset all the time. you know, it's quite it's not really nice. and i think it has been very gently with her. but

again, that's the sort of man he is. maybe itv or people were expecting him to be a bit more like punchy and a bit more aggressive , but he has lots of aggressive, but he has lots of patience and he understands people and he actually understands this generation very well. and that's one of the reasons why he's in there, isn't it, to try to connect with a wider audience? >> yes. >> yes. >> what a good move . >> what a good move. >> what a good move. >> you think it's a good move? >> you think it's a good move? >> like back in the days >> it's like back in the days when people don't do tiktok. when people say don't do tiktok. you it's you're wasting you know, it's you're wasting your so so forth your time and so on and so forth . i don't how long he's . i don't know if how long he's been doing now, but quite been doing tiktok now, but quite a . the number of a few months. the number of people, young people , young people, young people, young black people have been stopping him in the street saying, hey, can we do a selfie with you has been astonishing. so in that sense, doing the jungle, doing i'm a celeb get me out of here was 100% the right decision . was 100% the right decision. >> and the way that is handled some very controversial topics in there. the cultural

appropriation stuff is difficult for most people at the best of times, especially when you can feel, i think like your only seconds away from maybe tripping up . but. up. but. >> but why? why i don't understand this . i mean, people understand this. i mean, people again, people have lost any sense of fun, any sense of. so, for instance, you know, i do, you know, beaujolais nouveau party the theme is you have to be dressed as a french person. so people come with a beret , i so people come with a beret, i wear a beret, onions around my neck. and around my neck. and that's that's the thing, you know, i don't know why people want to be offended by, you know , these things are just beyond me. but maybe you're right. and he yesterday it's he did say yesterday it's probably thing. i think probably an age thing. i think that's an important thing because actually he to say that there is maybe age divide. there is maybe an age divide. >> he said that there >> he said that maybe there weren't these sensitivities several years ago. i don't think he's wrong about. >> no, he's right. yeah >> no, he's right. yeah >> wonder whether or not >> and i wonder whether or not itv and the wider public are

seeing a very different man from the man that they expected. but before i come to talk to you about what he's like , away from about what he's like, away from the cameras and away from politics, we have all seen quite a lot of nigel while he's been in the jungle. some of the shower scenes . shower scenes. >> yes, just a bit. yeah >> yes, just a bit. yeah >> what do you feel about that? >> what do you feel about that? >> do you know what? so the first time we saw his behind tv, i sat next nigel's mum. i was sat next to nigel's mum. right? watched the thing right? so we watched the thing together and we looked at each other and we. we went like we giggled because honestly , we at giggled because honestly, we at the end of the day, it's just it's just a behind. the end of the day, it's just it'sjust a behind. it'sjust it's just a behind. it's just the bottom and he's clean. i don't believe in that nonsense of having a shower wearing your swimming trunks and it's you know, he went for it. it was like, you know , yeah, he's like, you know, yeah, he's a clean man, you see. clean man, you see. >> clean man, you see. >> he's a clean man. >> he's a clean man. >> he's very clean. >> he's very clean. >> proper wash. >> he wanted a proper wash. >> he wanted a proper wash. >> a proper wash. he >> he wants a proper wash. he likes to camp tidy. >> he wants a proper wash. he likes to camp tidy . yeah, likes to camp to be tidy. yeah, right. because it's very important. >> it's interesting you say that because there was a scene where he got little bit angry. well, he got a little bit angry. well,

not . oh, the episode. not angry. oh, the rats episode. the episode . i know you the rat episode. i know you got ratty the yeah and ratty about the rat. yeah and i thought it maybe that showed the kind of man that he is. you know , quite disciplined and organised and not afraid to tell people , you know, what's what in people, you know, what's what in that sense, do you, do you recognise that? >> i think he has shown leadership, but in a nice way just saying, hey guys, we, we have to live together for quite a long while . we, we do not want a long while. we, we do not want rats , you know, in the camp. rats, you know, in the camp. let's be organised. can you imagine? boris johnson i let's be organised. can you imagine? borisjohnson i don't imagine? boris johnson i don't know if we can say that, but can you boris johnson in a you imagine? boris johnson in a camp? you know, be thousands of rats , thousands of rats rats, thousands of rats everywhere you know, you don't want, know , rodents in your want, you know, rodents in your camp where you're sleeping right ? just dangerous ? it's just dangerous and disgusting . so and it happened disgusting. so and it happened again night , disgusting. so and it happened again night, didn't it? again last night, didn't it? and this fred and him were this time, fred and him were together on the same page saying, hey , we're going to take saying, hey, we're going to take charge now. and and there's no messing, messing about. >> and i know that he's seen by

many people, as you know, a big drinker. and loves loves to have his cigarettes and all of that stuff. how do you think he's coping in there without without drinking? i think he looks quite well. >> he looks amazingly well . >> he looks amazingly well. yeah.i >> he looks amazingly well. yeah. i mean, i look at him and i say, oh, you haven't looked so well in well since i've met him. really but it's true . and i really but it's true. and i think that it would do that to anyone. think that it would do that to anyone . one, because if you anyone. one, because if you think about all daily habits, whether it's coffee or tea or alcohol or we are abusing our bodies, in a sense, i'm not saying that coffee's bad or but if you drink too much, then you know it's not good. and so and so i just think, you so forth. and i just think, you know, looking at him , he's know, looking at him, he's looking extremely well. he's got a bit of a tan . he looks quite a bit of a tan. he looks quite happy relaxed with his camp happy and relaxed with his camp mates. i think he's having blast. >> yeah , and that's important >> yeah, and that's important because you know better than anyone. because you know better than anyone . yeah. so when you see anyone. yeah. so when you see his interactions in there , you

his interactions in there, you think he's in his element. his interactions in there, you think he's in his element . yeah. think he's in his element. yeah. >> and i think that his companies are really good. very nice to him. so i know that sometimes with the edits you may think that, oh, they keep having a go at him. i don't believe that for one second he will look so relaxed and happy if his camp mates were picking on him every day. so i think there's quite a camaraderie that you don't really screen, but he really see on screen, but he looks very, very relaxed , very looks very, very relaxed, very content, very in his element. he's in his element. he's an outdoorsy person. he loves, you know, sleeping , you know, know, sleeping, you know, outdoors. and fishing and doing all sorts of things . so. so he all sorts of things. so. so he wouldn't be he wouldn't be out of , you know , it'd be it'd be of, you know, it'd be it'd be it'd be happy . he of, you know, it'd be it'd be it'd be happy. he is of, you know, it'd be it'd be it'd be happy . he is happy. it'd be happy. he is happy. i can tell he's happy in that context. >> and you think he could go all the way to the end? yeah >> yeah. it's i think he will make it to the finalists . make it to the finalists. >> and you . you'll be there to

>> and you. you'll be there to greet him. because this was another thing that was said initially, wasn't it? that you won't be there, but she won't go to welcome him. to australia to welcome him. >> but based basically wanting, you know , people to think that you know, people to think that he's a billionaire mate and nobody wants to welcome him. now, of course i'll be there . of now, of course i'll be there. of course i will be there. i'll miss him . i want to see him. miss him. i want to see him. i want to hug him, know. on want to hug him, you know. on bless you. >> that's really it's really sweet, isn't it? and why do you love him so much ? love him so much? >> because he's a nice man. he really is . he's genuinely a nice really is. he's genuinely a nice , gentle person . he's very , gentle person. he's very patient, which is great because he's very patient with me and, um. and he's fun and he's entertaining and he's loyal. he's you know, he's. he's. he's a good. he's a good egg . a good. he's a good egg. >> okay, now, this interview is very much in two parts, so that was the quite light, fluffy stuff about i'm a celebrity and the initial things about that.

but in the next part we is really and law gives her verdict on whether nigel could make it into number 10 but also how his life and his political life affects her as well . back

in two. welcome back. now nigel's girlfriend, law , is speaking on girlfriend, law, is speaking on camera for the first time. the first part was, uh, you know , first part was, uh, you know, quite fluffy, i suppose, but this next part now, she delves into whether he has a chance at making it to be prime minister, but also how his political life , but also how his political life, if affects her and she answers questions about racism, allegations, etcetera . let's allegations, etcetera. let's take it away . what's it like take it away. what's it like behind the scenes with nigel? i mean, we're we're in his local

now, aren't we? yes and he comes here quite a bit. >> yes. that's our local pub with a christmassy vibe. >> nigel. away from the cameras. away from the pressures of television and politics. what's he like ? he like? >> an ordinary bloke . he goes >> an ordinary bloke. he goes shopping to a local supermarket. he just goes to the butcher. he comes here, he just. he gardens. he's. he's just a normal person. the only thing is a bit of a workaholic . so i will say that workaholic. so i will say that and that is quite noticeable . so and that is quite noticeable. so he, he does work a lot. so from, you know, he gets up at four in the morning, something like that. and starts working from five and, and then the day and of course you know that he's got his show on gb which is his show on gb news which is from it really works from 7 to 8. so it really works from 7 to 8. so it really works from five in the morning until yeah, 8 pm. so, you know, these are long days. so that's the only thing that might be different from your average , different from your average, average person. but apart from

that, he just enjoys the same thing you enjoy, you know? yeah >> what's that like for you? because behind, behind every day. well, some people would call him a great man. behind every great man, there's usually a great woman. >> that's what they say . >> that's what they say. >> that's what they say. >> that's what they say. >> that's they say . but >> that's what they say. but what's that like for you? because it must be tough. he works all the time, very, very active , both socially and active, both socially and professionally, very driven, yes, as well. oh, yeah . knows yes, as well. oh, yeah. knows his own mind. yeah. what's that like for you? >> it's great. it's it's out of my way. most of the time. it's brilliant. you know, he does his thing. i do my thing. no, it's. it's. it's a good thing, you know, i believe in, you know , know, i believe in, you know, people who have convictions and motivations and is , as motivations in life and is, as you say, is really driven . so you say, is really driven. so for yeah, for me as a woman , for yeah, for me as a woman, it's a good it's a good thing deaung it's a good it's a good thing dealing with some of the issues is where people a lot of people want nigel to fail at everything really and possibly because of

the nature of the kind of work that he's in and been involved in, but also the nature of the british press and the global media. >> yeah, there can be a lot of intrusion there. there can be a lot of allegations of things like racism, for example. oh, yeah, people love out that. yeah, yeah. you roll your eyes out. why >> i mean, look, there is. i've never heard nigel say anything racist , but, you know, in my racist, but, you know, in my life and i'm quite, you know , life and i'm quite, you know, i'm quite a religious person and i'm quite a religious person and i would never say that if i didn't. i swear to god, he is never said anything racist in front of me . and if he was a front of me. and if he was a racist, i would be the first person to know . i wouldn't person to know. i wouldn't tolerate it myself. so it really annoys me and i think that's what people have been doing over the years, is to amalgamate, to mixed up, you know, controlled immigration. same with being a racist, which, you know , it's racist, which, you know, it's crazy. all the countries in the world are, you know, managing

the borders and want control immigrations and we are no different. so i don't know how they've managed to do that, but somehow and it's somehow they have and it's worked, because when worked, you see, because when you reaction of people you see the reaction of people like fred or nella, they are buying this narrative because that's that's what they've been heanng that's that's what they've been hearing for seven, eight, nine, ten years. so of course, they are going to meet nigel in the jungle and the first thing they're going to go is, hey, you're racist or hey, you know, but it couldn't be further from the truth. >> indeed . and yeah , >> no, indeed. and yeah, obviously if he does well or however well he does, we'll have to wait and see, won't we? but what do you think he wants to do when he comes out of the jungle? >> i'll have a good meal. when he comes out of the jungle? >> i'll have a good meal . oh, i >> i'll have a good meal. oh, i know what you mean. i know what you mean in terms of. well in order to answer this question, i think that you need to keep in mind why he went in the jungle in the first place. and it was very clear that it was to reach

to a larger audience. why would you do that if you didn't have an ulterior motive in mind? and i think potentially, possibly i can't speak for him, but, you know, it might be considering going back to politics at some stage , you know, and if you want stage, you know, and if you want to do that and if you want to win an election, of course, you need to reach a larger audience, you know, especially to the young who do not really young people who do not really do tv or do not do politics and will be voters one day. you know, if they're not voting already, that is so i don't know. i'm not saying that's what he wants to do. it's probably what he doesn't want to do. but the truth of the matter is he does he have a choice ? does he have a choice? >> mean by that? >> what do you mean by that? does choice? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, choice? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, you choice? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, you knowice? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, you know ,:e? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, you know , if? >> what do you mean by that? doewell, you know , if you look, >> well, you know, if you look, it's there's no arguing that nigel is loves his country. right. and that's why he campaigned for brexit, because it was too damning to see a country being run by a foreign

body somewhere in brussels. and so and that's why he was so determined and focussed on brexit. and brexit was delivered badly, very badly. the successive prime ministers how many, how many have we had? loads. yeah, exactly . i've done loads. yeah, exactly. i've done it, you know , a bad job at it, you know, a bad job at trying. well i haven't even tried i, they haven't even tried you know . and so it's you know. and so it's heartbreaking for him, for people like me, for our friends, for our family, for this country to see that we're, you know , to see that we're, you know, we're being run by idiots as we are run by idiots. we're being run by idiots as we are run by idiots . technically. are run by idiots. technically. i'm sorry for saying this. i'm sure . i'm sorry for saying this. i'm sure. i'm sure it's i'm sorry for saying this. i'm sure . i'm sure it's the same. sure. i'm sure it's the same. you know, your viewers will share the same opinion in that sense. nigel probably will think that he has a duty to come back to politics. it's a duty thing. >> how do you feel about that ? >> how do you feel about that? because if he's successful and he's as successful as he

possibly could be in politics, which would make you prime minister yeah, that would have a massive impact on your life, wouldn't it? >> yeah. it's really not on my bucket list. i'm going to be honest with you. i just like that's the last thing i want . that's the last thing i want. but it's not about what you want. i think in life sometimes it's about what is best for, you know . and yeah, i mean , life has know. and yeah, i mean, life has been quite enjoyable over the last few years. you know, he's . last few years. you know, he's. he's loving his, his job at gb news, you know , we have two news, you know, we have two dogs. we walk them, we come here. you know, it's great. of course, the day you walk in, number 10 stops, right? you can forget about your all the things you enjoy in life and it's the pressure and it's the little, you know, funny tactics of the establishment and it's not going to be nice . you know, if you to be nice. you know, if you look at trump, what is trump is going through right now? just on the basis that he's going to run again, you're just oh,

again, you're just thinking, oh, well, we what are we? well, what are we what are we? what is nigel going if what is nigel going to face if he's, you know, if he's officially standing again ? officially standing again? >> that must be quite daunting, really. i mean, you've obviously thought about it, so you've weighed that up and you've come to your own conclusions about that. but that must be quite scary. >> i think so , yeah. it is >> i think so, yeah. it is scary. it is scary . much scarier scary. it is scary. much scarier than the jungle, i can tell you that. the jungle is just like a walk in a walk in the park. really. when you think about it. because being a prime minister is just such you know, such a heavy such a heavy responsibilities on your shoulders . and but, but, but on shoulders. and but, but, but on the, you know , also keeping in the, you know, also keeping in mind that they've done such a bad job that you can only do a better job. so in that context , better job. so in that context, i think that it becomes a bit less scary . i think that less scary. i think that whatever, you know, if nigel

goes, i'm not saying he is going to do it. yeah. but he to do it. yeah, yeah. but he would would be good would be he would be a good prime would that prime minister. i would say that . and he would do a good prime minister. i would say that . arat he would do a good job at it. >> p- >> interesting. and he's obviously going to have to deal with lot of flack there a with a lot of flack there and a lot of opposition. but you think he's capable of doing that and not getting sucked into, you know , the establishment, as it know, the establishment, as it were ? were? >> oh, well, the establishment will always be there and we see it every day. oh and they are getting ready already. you know, they are you know, that's the establishment for you. and it doesn't happen overnight. so for the last few years, actually, since probably he started his work with gb news, he's gained influence , hasn't he? you know, influence, hasn't he? you know, at and i think they're i think they're freaking out a bit, to be honest with you. they starting to threaten. they're starting to threaten. they're starting to threaten. they're starting to go like, ooh, is he going to going to he going to going to going to is he going to do or not?

do it or not? >> when you first started seeing nigel was quite a long time ago now, actually, wasn't it? did you just track that for me then? because that's quite a journey , because that's quite a journey, isn't it, for you personally ? isn't it, for you personally? >> well, i don't know. in what sense. >> well, i suppose when he started out, european parliament. yeah, there's been. goodness knows how many elections both, by the way . elections both, by the way. >> i never worked for him. i just want to. yeah go on. that was another thing. like i worked for nigel farage and he appointed these , you know, appointed me at these, you know, well i didn't. never did well paid. i didn't. never did that. never worked for him ever in my life. he never gave me any particular so i just wanted particular job. so i just wanted to. yeah, so since he since to. but yeah, so since he since he, you know , he came out of the he, you know, he came out of the european parliament. >> but did you ever think did you ever think that you'd be sitting down having a conversation and conversation? an and i was listening the radio on the listening to the radio on the way up here and it is now a mainstream conversation to discuss about the possibility of nigel farage one day being prime

minister. okay. did you ever think when you first met him that you would be having those conversations to some extent, yes. >> i know it's surprising. i know it's very surprising . but i know it's very surprising. but i think that i don't know. it was it was it general de gaulle that said that he always had this feeling that he was. and i think churchill would say the same thing. so obviously, i'm not not i'm not as important. but you you can see sometimes the potential in someone, can't you? and of course, i'm biased. of course i'm biased because it's, you know, he's he's he's my special, you know, special , special, you know, special, special, you know, special, special man in my life . but you special man in my life. but you can see the potential in someone and you can see look , you are and you can see look, you are clearly the best person in the uk right now to do the job. you're the best person. he's the best man. >> one last one. how do you think nigel is going to feel when he comes out of the jungle and realises we've done an

interview? >> i think he's going hate >> i think he's going to hate it. what. i tell you it. i tell you what. i tell you why? he doesn't why? it's because he doesn't like compliments. you like compliments. so if you just, you know, if. if you pay a compliment in public, he goes all shy like, oh , stop it. so me all shy like, oh, stop it. so me doing that with you and you know, and obviously praising his his work and praising how well he's doing in the jungle. he's going to be extremely embarrassed, which is good, good, good. >> well, lord, thank you very , >> well, lord, thank you very, very much. thank you. for somebody who doesn't do a lot of these things, you've been incredibly good at it. >> you. >> oh, thank you. >> oh, thank you. >> maybe. you'll have your >> maybe. maybe you'll have your own knows? own show soon. who knows? >> you. with you , >> but with you. with you, though, it. though, i'll do it. >> do yeah well, lord >> i'll do it. yeah well, lord ferrari , they're an absolutely ferrari, they're an absolutely wonderful woman. and i'm sure that came across very well. i must say that it was not not her in a natural environment , there in a natural environment, there are lots of stuff to unpack and no doubt the press will do that. and right here at gb news we

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