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so—called royal races spread the so—called royal races spread across the globe. now our former prime minister gets involved. we reveal what he thinks. >> it's beginning to look a lot like christmas, almost broke into song there. >> well, the weather is anyway. snow and ice warnings across the country today as temperatures drop below minus ten. what could we be in for a white christmas? >> that would be nice . >> that would be nice. >> that would be nice. >> and nigel's rumbling . the >> and nigel's rumbling. the jungle continues he prepares jungle continues as he prepares to vote. will to face the public vote. will you be backing him now? this morning, we're joined by my former campmate, the lovely royal jennie bond. royal commentator jennie bond. and we'll find out what life really down under. yeah really is like down under. yeah you're going to be telling us what actually like inside what it's actually like inside the can't for that . yeah i'm >> can't wait for that. yeah i'm really looking forward to that. are you telling us what it's really like inside the jungle and different it now? and how different it is now? >> you now what it was >> you know, now to what it was then. i was years ago. then. i was there 19 years ago. >> believe it's been 19 >> i cannot believe it's been 19
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years since you were in the jungle. >> but it makes me realise how successful show been. successful that show has been. yes, was on series yes, because i was on series three. really, if you go three. so really, if you go back, it's been 21 years. back, it's been like 21 years. that's incredible. yeah. >> remember you saying we >> and i remember you saying we had chat this, had a long chat about this, didn't there didn't we? the other day there was media or not was no social media or not really compared to what it is. >> was no social media. i >> there was no social media. i mean, youtube existed, mean, i think youtube existed, but even really watched but no one even really watched it then. >> yeah, so a lot's changed in that time. so we're going to be talking about that with jennie bond, just really wanting talking about that with jennie booffer just really wanting talking about that with jennie booffer you just really wanting talking about that with jennie booffer you something.y wanting talking about that with jennie booffer you something totally ng to offer you something totally different on a saturday, aren't we? we we? smile. it's basically we don't want to too, be too harsh. >> we just want to relax. we want you guys to enjoy to want you guys to enjoy it, to have us and, you know, have fun with us and, you know, tell think and talk tell us what you think and talk about subjects that not about subjects that are not always about as well. always talked about as well. >> yeah, exactly. i think there is horrible stuff going is so much horrible stuff going on in the world at the moment and we hear about it all the time when we switch on our tvs and watch the news, it's and we watch the news, it's affronting, isn't it? it's all you ever see in here. so do you ever see in here. so we do want offer just something want to offer you just something a something a little bit lighter, something to your weekend a little bit lighter, something to make your weekend a little bit lighter, something to make you your weekend a little bit lighter, something to make you smile' weekend a little bit lighter, something
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to make you smile' weakend and make you smile on a saturday. >> em- saturday. >> true because as >> and that's true because as soon as we mention train strikes, went, oh, boring . strikes, you went, oh, boring. but then you were affected but but then you were affected by about that by it and we'll talk about that later actually yes. later today. actually yes. >> yes, we're >> so hopefully, yes, we're going into all of those going to get into all of those things. and what really matters to home. this is to you at home. but this show is also nothing without you . and we also nothing without you. and we want hear from you. please want to hear from you. so please do gbviews@gbnews.com. do email us gbviews@gbnews.com. and we're doing something new as well . can the hashtag well. you can use the hashtag ask kelly or hashtag ask pete and can ask anything you can. >> it doesn't mean we're going to answer everything we can, but before anything else, before we do anything else, aaron all your news aaron has all your news headlines. looks like a headlines. it looks like a ledger . yeah ledger. yeah >> very good morning to you. at 10:03 hour. and armstrong here in the gb newsroom, all flights from glasgow airport have been suspended because snow that suspended because of snow that was forecast. ten was heavier than forecast. ten hours dropped to as low as minus ten in some places overnight. and yellow warnings are in and yellow warnings are still in force snow and ice across force for snow and ice across many parts of the uk. several sporting have been sporting events have been cancelled cup
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cancelled, including fa cup games. scottish league matches and race ing at and today's race ing at newcastle . a meteorologist, john newcastle. a meteorologist, john hammond says the cold temperatures, though won't last long. >> the focus of the cold shifting northwards , something a shifting northwards, something a bit milder, trying to push in from the south, then the cold air sweeps back south again later on monday into tuesday. so we're not waving goodbye to this cold spell just yet, i think through the middle the week, through the middle of the week, potentially further severe frosts . then on this frosts. and then later on this week into next weekend, a complete transformation. it's going to turn mild, wet, windy, soggy and horrible . soggy and horrible. >> well, rail passengers are facing yet more disruption as train drivers continue to strike over pay. no east midlands trains are running today and there's a limited service between london and scotland on lner were separately and overtime ban across all services in england until next weekend will cause further chaos now. aslef members have voted over willingly to continue taking industrial action for the next six months. the rail delivery
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group says they should accept an 8% pay offer. shadow culture secretary thangam debbonaire says the government need to start negotiating ing strikes, help none of us, you know, the working people who want to get to work, people who want to get to work, people who want to get to visit family and friends, it's really important that these strikes are settled as soon as possible. >> and i really hope that the government and the unions can negotiate that. and fair negotiate that. and a fair settlement they can. settlement as soon as they can. >> an 84 year old man has died following huge explosion following a huge house explosion in edinburgh. following a huge house explosion in edinburgh . the blast, which in edinburgh. the blast, which happened babatan area happened in the babatan area last was heard from last night, was heard from several a 43 year several miles away. a 43 year old woman and a 54 year old man have taken to hospital and have been taken to hospital and a of neighbouring a number of neighbouring properties as properties were evacuated as a precaution . ann, police say precaution. ann, police say there are no suspicious circumstances. a go fund me page has been set up to help raise money for the family. has been set up to help raise money for the family . boris money for the family. boris johnson is expected to admit he did make mistakes during the pandemic when he appears before the covid inquiry next week. the former minister however, former prime minister however, will his government will argue that his government got decisions with
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got the big decisions right with the times claiming he'll say he helped tens, if not helped save tens, if not hundreds of thousands of lives by preventing the nhs from being overwhelmed , as some of his overwhelmed, as some of his senior staff have already given evidence criticising his indecision and poor leadership . indecision and poor leadership. fighting in gaza continues for a second day after talks to extend a week long truce with hamas collapsed. mediator hours say israeli bombardments are complicating attempts to bring another pause to hostilities . another pause to hostilities. it's after southern parts of gaza came under intense bombardment yesterday , with bombardment yesterday, with israel saying they struck more than 200 terror targets . than 200 terror targets. meanwhile, rocket sirens have sounded in israeli communities. that was earlier this morning. both sides are blaming each other for the collapse of the truce israel, accusing truce with israel, accusing hamas of refusing to release all the women it holds . a us judge the women it holds. a us judge has ruled that donald trump isn't immune from from being held accountable for our 2020 election interfere . since mr election interfere. since mr trump's lawyers argued
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presidential immunity, saying his attempts to reject the election results fell within his presidential duties. but the judge says the former president will be prosecuted like any other citizen. mr trump's accused of unlawfully trying to overturn his election defeat . overturn his election defeat. that's it for the moment. we're live across the uk on tv, digital radio. and if you want us on your smart speaker, just say play gb news. and now it is back to ellie and peter. the you. >> thanks, aaron, and welcome . >> thanks, aaron, and welcome. peter, i didn't say that to you at the top of the show, but welcome our first show together. i very welcomed today. i feel very welcomed here today. >> came in. it was really quiet when today. when i first walked in today. >> he was here he was my >> he was here early. he was my coffee feeling great. good. coffee feeling great. oh, good. and to going , and you're excited to get going, aren't you? >> i am. am. love the fact >> i am. i am. i love the fact that just little bit that this is just a little bit later on a saturday. it's like 6 am. this is great. >> no, going be really, >> no, it's going to be really, really you know really lovely. and you know what? it just reminded me
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actually, see actually, you can see the christmas out corner of christmas tree out the corner of your there looks so your head. there it looks so festive. in the festive. and wonderful in the studio do let us know if studio today. do let us know if you've put up christmas you've put up your christmas tree at home, because we haven't yet. a bit rubbish, aren't yet. we're a bit rubbish, aren't we? haven't it up in we? you haven't put it up in your and put it up in mine. >> we have taken it down from the loft though, we have done the loft though, so we have done something wrong. >> the process. something wrong. >> got the process. something wrong. >> got from the process. something wrong. >> got from there; process. something wrong. >> got from there; pthere. >> got it from there to there. it's just. but emily wants to put tree up, so i've got put the tree up, so i've got a letter. i've got letter. dodi. letter. i've got a letter. dodi. oh, so it's emily's job in your house? not house? well, no, it's not emily's made it her emily's job. she's made it her job. she's better. i'm job. so. yes, she's better. i'm not saying it's her job. and what go for? what theme does she go for? >> what ever she >> what colours, what ever she feels oh, changes. feels like. oh, it changes. >> there's all >> it changes. there's all little adds to it. little bits. she adds to it. >> can imagine mine is >> well, you can imagine mine is gold bows. gold with bows. >> gold colour this >> gold is a good colour this year think. year i think. >> yeah. oh it's lovely. >> yeah. oh it's lovely. >> to be a bit different. >> well us know if you've >> well let us know if you've got tree up and what got your tree up yet and what colour gone for. do you colour you've gone for. do you send pictures. send us pictures. vaiews@gbnews.com. now pete, you're very lucky i'm here this morning. i'll you morning. i am. and i'll tell you why. because no why. because there were no trains. well, trains, right ? trains. well, no trains, right? that's because members of the train aslef train drivers union aslef at east midlands railway and lner
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have walked out today. >> yeah. the announcement comes as train drivers start a week long overtime ban, which is expected to cause disruption to services england just in services across england just in time for christmas shopping . time for christmas shopping. >> yeah, it's not a great christmas present for all. christmas present for us all. aslef continue to aslef have voted to continue to strike action for the next six months. it's in this ongoing dispute over pay and it does feel never ending, doesn't it? well, our political correspondent and our friend olivia utley is with us now in the studio. really good to see you live. i mean, what do the train drivers want here? because they've got i think it's a median salary of about 65 k for four days a week. i mean, lots of people would say it's very cushty deal. well, absolutely. >> i think lots of people already are saying that. they >> i think lots of people alrethatare saying that. they >> i think lots of people alrethat all saying that. they >> i think lots of people alrethat all theyg that. they >> i think lots of people alrethat all they wantt. they >> i think lots of people alrethat all they want isthey >> i think lots of people alrethat all they want is fory say that all they want is for the government to sit down at the government to sit down at the table and have a conversation with them. they say that the government hasn't sat down with them since january . down with them since january. the government argues that they put this offer on the table. they say that this is the most
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generous offer that they're going to it will raise, as going to get. it will raise, as you median pay for you say, the median pay for a train to £65,000 and the train driver to £65,000 and the average working week is four days long, 35 hours a week. lots of people will say that, sort of plenty to be getting on with. but the train drivers want more. mike whelan, their chief, the chief of the union, is saying that he needs them to get a bigger rise because they haven't seen a rise in five years. and now that 65 grand salary would actually work out as less than it works out five years ago because of inflation. so they're asking for a rise . they haven't asking for a rise. they haven't said specifically how much they just want to have a conversation. so they say now it feels a bit like sort of one step forward, two steps back here because week heard here because this week we heard that rmt , the rail union, that rmt, the other rail union, have just agreed a deal with the government , which is have just agreed a deal with the government, which is a 5% pay rise, backdated to 2022, 23, and some reassurance about job security. there was a question mark over whether some of the jobs that the rmt union were
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going to automate did, for going to be automate did, for example, opening doors example, automated opening doors on trains. they have just agreed, a deal with agreed, agreed a deal with the government. we government. so from now on we won't expect to see staff working at stations and on trains striking . but you know, trains striking. but you know, that's not great. i mean all very well. but if the drivers aren't there, then the trains aren't there, then the trains aren't going to move anyway. and we are expecting a lot of disruption. we're now braced for nine strikes nine days of train strikes starting from today. east starting from today. it's east midlands railway and lner. today, four operators today, another four operators tomorrow and over the next week and a half we're expecting to see 15 different train operators walk out. and for the whole time dunng walk out. and for the whole time during that, there's going to be a union wide. so that's all of those train operating companies ban on overtime. and when overtime is banned , then overtime is banned, then basically the trains stop running. okay >> so obviously they're going to want strikes the want to do the strikes at the most powerful time to get what they right but obviously, they want. right but obviously, it's time and there it's christmas time and there are some people who only get to see their family or friends once a year. i mean, is this a right
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time? well as you say, i mean, what what the what the head of the union, mike whelan, has said is that he doesn't want to destroy cupped passengers lives . destroy cupped passengers lives. >> he just wants to send a message government about message to the government about how bad working conditions have got drivers . but got for train drivers. but obviously, you say , they do obviously, as you say, they do choose to hold these strikes at the most inconvenient time possible to cause maximum impact . now, it's a tricky line for train drivers and all strikers really to walk because they've got to cause as much impact as they possibly can in order to hammer home their point to the government. but at the same time, they can't anger passenger cars so much that they lose all interest and lose all sympathy for their cause because they could end up, you know, driving the government even further away, because the government only cares about what voters care about. and if voters are seen to hey, i've had seen to think, hey, i've had enough train drivers, enough of these train drivers, then not going then they're not going to get their rise. their pay rise. >> , lviv, really to >> okay, lviv, really good to see this morning. thank see you this morning. thank you so bringing us
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so much for bringing us up to speed on what is a very long running dispute and set to continue. >> absolutely. now, later on in the we going to be the show, we are going to be joined by the brilliant singer songwriter tom butcher. >> he'll be familiar to >> now, he'll be familiar to many his appearances many of you for his appearances on talent. but now on britain's got talent. but now he's eyeing a christmas he's eyeing up a christmas number one. all right. >> let's take a listen to his new single, winter song. they're singing winter song on the set. >> vibration for all seasonal. long singing like they always knew . all their wishes will come knew. all their wishes will come true. they sing out loud and strong , long their true. they sing out loud and strong, long their singing from their heart . and for all the their heart. and for all the children in here, a world apart. boys with their thay is all aglow . aglow. >> well, i quite like the sound
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of that very christmassy. and i do like the video as well. but of course , it's a little bit of of course, it's a little bit of a spanner in the works really for tom ball because he might not get number one this year because, of course, we've lost the late the great pogues singer haven't we? this week, shane macgowan and his wife wants him to be number one this christmas. i think lots of people are going to really support. >> absolutely. i mean, he's one of the in influential for of the most in influential for christmas songs . christmas songs. >> and it's always , always >> he's and it's always, always in the top ten, isn't it? at christmas? absolutely. >> do number one. >> i reckon it might do as well. you know, it's only ever got as high as two. so really high as number two. so really interesting what happens interesting to see what happens this i quite like it. yeah. >> we'd love you to email to >> we'd love you to email us to your favourite christmas song because out there. >> yeah, there certainly is. vaiews@gbnews.com and we are very pleased to say. we're joined matthew stadlen joined now by matthew stadlen and brexit party mep and former brexit party mep beunda and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy to chat us through story today. through the top story today. really good to see you both. and barry coordinated you too. >> got my tory blue >> i've got my tory blue tie. just belinda .
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just just confuse belinda. >> oh, but you look dashing in blue, both of you. red socks on. really lovely. yeah. you can really lovely. oh, yeah. you can see. can see you, matthew. so see. we can see you, matthew. so let's talk about christmas number and that that number one then. and that that really of shane really sad passing of shane macgowan. loss . macgowan. i mean what a loss. >> such tragic story, >> such a tragic story, especially as kirsty, the co singer also suffered a suffered a tragic death back in 2000 and was taken far too quickly. so it has an eeriness to it. anyway, the song and now with the passing of the two singers i think it's added to it. but it's the most popular karaoke christmas song in our household . christmas song in our household. understandable because it does the it's and it's so the best and it's and it's so sort georgian , dickensian, sort of georgian, dickensian, victorian . it covers all the victorian. it covers all the centuries of sort of the sort of poverty line of trying to celebrate the holidays. when you're on your luck and it you're down on your luck and it really reaches out, especially nowadays, in this cost nowadays, i suppose in this cost of living crisis as well, when times tough for times are really tough for everyone. language everyone. the language is rough and gnarly , which is great in and gnarly, which is great in this over sensitised , sensitive this over sensitised, sensitive world where you don't get much of a sort of true grit in lyrics
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anymore. i know some of them have been removed and replaced because they were they're deemed offensive i thought offensive now, but i thought it's a wonderful song and i hope it's a wonderful song and i hope it one is it reaches number one and is sung all karaoke . sung all over karaoke. >> and do you think it will beunda? >> and do you think it will belinda? do you think it will makethink it will. we're >> i think it will. we're a sentimental bunch in this country. sentimental bunch in this couitry. sentimental bunch in this coui think partly depends on >> i think partly it depends on how resonates with how much he resonates with younger i mean, younger people because, i mean, i'm young, but i've been i'm not young, but i've been piecing the piecing together the extraordinary life of shane macgowan days since macgowan in recent days since his passing . the first his sad passing. the first time i across was on i came across him was on a political show on a different channel years ago when he came on about something on to talk about something political. i think the smoking ban and was ban possibly. and he was actually the actually smoking a fag in the studio. from and studio. he'd come from a gig and he the worse for wear. he was the worse for wear. i think he struggled a bit with addictions, perhaps, but he was also wonderful musician and also this wonderful musician and he this incredible song, the he had this incredible song, the christmas that i just the christmas song that i just the ferret you. i wasn't aware that that him. so i've now pieced that was him. so i've now pieced it together. curious to it together. and i'm curious to know you as someone who has know from you as someone who has had one song, whether had a number one song, whether you were influenced by him and what he was like as a musician
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and as a singer, as voice. what he was like as a musician ancwell, singer, as voice. what he was like as a musician ancwell, linger, as voice. what he was like as a musician ancwell, i mean,|s voice. what he was like as a musician ancwell, i mean, actuallye. >> well, i mean, actually thinking about what you had just said, about them taking thinking about what you had just saic some about them taking thinking about what you had just saic some of about them taking thinking about what you had just saic some of the rout them taking thinking about what you had just saic some of the lyrics|em taking thinking about what you had just saic some of the lyrics , m taking thinking about what you had just saic some of the lyrics , which ng out some of the lyrics, which is, in opinion , terrible is, in my opinion, terrible because the original is the best, and i think they influenced everybody in some way. i mean, everyone wants to at least get a christmas song that sounds even remotely only half as good as what they did . half as good as what they did. yeah, i mean, i think they should rerelease it with the original lyrics and just not let people care about what they think. >> where does it rank for you as a christmas? >> oh, it's definitely, i would say in the top three. for me, for sure. but you see, i grew up in australia and it was a little different. there and so we had songs that were really popular in well as uk, in america as well as the uk, but was that's always been. but that was that's always been. is it your favourite ? is it your favourite? >> they actually take out >> how do they actually take out the when change the the lyrics when they change the lyrics? that happen? lyrics? how does that happen? >> but i just >> i don't know, but i just think wrong. that's it think it's wrong. that's what it was. that's everyone fell was. that's what everyone fell in love with and it's of its time offensive. time and it was offensive. >> and problem with sanity
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>> and the problem with sanity using is that people using songs now is that people lose the context. the idea of teaching young to put things into context is disappearing because we're just trying to wrap them up cotton wool or wrap them up in cotton wool or you hear offensive you can't hear this offensive word. actually, the word word. well actually, the word that the song wasn't that was used in the song wasn't particularly offensive at the time. just grew to be time. it just grew to be offensive. who knows what will be offensive in ten years time offensive. who knows what will be owhat ve in ten years time offensive. who knows what will be owhat songs:en years time offensive. who knows what will be owhat songs are years time offensive. who knows what will be owhat songs are going ime offensive. who knows what will be owhat songs are going toe offensive. who knows what will be owhat songs are going to be and what songs are going to be butchered because of it. >> and this this >> just remember and this this again, my opinion here, again, is just my opinion here, but a lot of people get offended because they can. yeah, they might necessarily. will might not necessarily. some will be genuinely offended, but a lot of people get offended because it's okay to be offended. >> this case. and >> i think in this case. and i think i don't know whether we're even to use the word, so even allowed to use the word, so i but it's i won't use it. but it's a homophobic word beginning with f, think key to this f, and i think key to this question is, was it intended in in that homophone context at the time or was it a word for something else? i think in ireland it could be a word for meat. if it was a word for meat, then of course it shouldn't be taken out. it was intended at taken out. if it was intended at the time, and know, i've
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the time, and i don't know, i've got evidence to suggest it got no evidence to suggest it was then of course was homophobic, then of course it should be taken out because it's about people like it's not just about people like us are us sitting on a sofa who are taking offence because we choose to. are gay , then you to. if you are gay, then you don't to have homophobic don't want to have a homophobic word song. word in a christmas song. >> songs in all the >> all the songs in all the world. you think that they world. then you think that they should the because should erase the word because i find massively offensive find that massively offensive when a really when it's used in a really aggressive i also can aggressive way. but i also can see it's a song. i put it in context and i wouldn't go around saying it needs to erased so saying it needs to be erased so my don't hear know, my ears don't hear it. you know, there are some, like i said to you you know , like said you and you know, like i said to you, some people that you, there are some people that are genuine offended, and i understand are genuine offended, and i understthere also a lot of >> but there are also a lot of people that say they're offended just because be just because they can be offended. you know, so offended. you know, there's so many society, we're in it. it's just almost like, well, let's complain about that because we're to. we're allowed to. >> will certainly have >> well, you will certainly have an this at home. an opinion on this one at home. do us know what you think. do let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we've got another great story here for you, haven't we, pete? >> do about the greek tide >> we do about the greek tide now when king charles was wearing that had the
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wearing the tie that had the greek flag, a photo of this he's got greek flags hasn't he throughout the tie . throughout the tie. >> if we just lose that strap, that's it. and add the matching. yeah what would you call that? >> the pocket square thing. >> the pocket square thing. >> yeah. what is that called? the neckerchief. yeah. yeah >> i mean, the thing is here, right? was of greek right? his dad was of greek origin, so he was a greek prince, wasn't he? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so, i mean, to me, i don't. i don't know what you think, but it's very cheeky. >> i don't reckon he did it. i think it's fantastic. >> it. but there's no >> i enjoy it. but there's no doubt causing political doubt he's causing political mischief here home in order, mischief here at home in order, in my view, to reach out to the greeks and say, hang on, this this disaster of a for this disaster of a pr week for our relations is i'm on your side. >> so just to bring you up to speed, if you're not aware of this, at cop28 this, this is at cop28 in dubai at moment. king charles is at the moment. king charles is wearing a greek tie . and on wearing a greek flag tie. and on the pocket square, this is all about the elgin marbles or the parthenon statues. whatever side of the debate you're on. so essentially, there's been a row of the debate you're on. so esseweeky, there's been a row of the debate you're on. so esseweek that'sa's been a row of the debate you're on. so esseweek that's erupted a row of the debate you're on. so esseweek that's erupted about this week that's erupted about whether they should returned
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whether they should be returned to or not. and the greek to greece or not. and the greek prime came over rishi prime minister came over rishi sunak meet him. and now sunak did not meet him. and now we see in the last few days king charles, wearing a greek tie . charles, wearing a greek tie. was it intentional, belinda? do you think? >> yes, i do think it was . i >> yes, i do think it was. i feel very protective of the monarchy. i think it's much bigger than any one king or queen. and so i do get concerned when monarchs dabble in politics. i don't like them putting the monarchy at risk. and i just i think it was it's fun and it's fine. but what's i just don't think it's a great path for our king to go down. >> is it dabbling, though, or is it just a tie? yeah well, i think at any other point it would have been just tie and would have been just a tie and fine, was the timing of it all. >> and i think with the elgin marbles, know, it's marbles, you know, again, it's always britain is always just britain that is targeted with or having to be punished for our past. there are plenty of museums all over the world that have objects that belong or that were bought from other countries . so we've got other countries. so we've got i don't think we should have
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anything to ashamed about. anything to be ashamed about. >> what >> before i ask you what you think, i'm to throw it out think, i'm going to throw it out there. was king there. what if it was king charles's footman that picked the i'm just the outfit? i'm just saying, what if it wasn't him? >> i was looking on on x or twitter yesterday . and gb news twitter yesterday. and gb news own royal correspondent was saying that he'd heard that it was coincidence. yes. i was a coincidence. yes. now, i don't know whether he this don't know whether he heard this officially or not. i can't believe was coincidence believe it was a coincidence because been because this has been an extraordinary the prime extraordinary week for the prime minister. was massive snub minister. it was a massive snub to the greeks . in my view, it to the greeks. in my view, it was totally unnecessary on the substance the elgin marbles. substance of the elgin marbles. i put it like this imagine if greece had half of the stones from stonehenge , which we from stonehenge, which we absolutely rishi sunak would be jumping up and down demanding them back. >> i don't think he would. i think it's like asking the louvre to give back the mona lisa italy or, you know, any. lisa to italy or, you know, any. what about london bridge that was bought by american and was bought by an american and taken arizona? are going taken to arizona? are we going to that's part of our to say that's part of our heritage? we want it back. it starts whole ball rolling. starts a whole ball rolling. 20 years would been years ago, it would have been fine. this climate of
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fine. but in this climate of decolonising and punishing the wicked british, it would start a horrible precedent of us emptying our museums back to the world and only us no other museum. >> well, as a fellow greek, i'd like say thank very much like to say thank you very much for thank you, belinda, >> thank you, matt and belinda, you're going to be back later to discuss johnson wading you're going to be back later to disc|the johnson wading you're going to be back later to disc|the royaljohnson wading you're going to be back later to disc|the royal race.on wading into the royal race. >> loads of stories to get >> yeah, loads of stories to get through. up, through. coming up, we're bringing latest news bringing you the latest news from the jungle. >> you're with me, ellie >> yeah, you're with me, ellie costello and my wonderful new co—presenter, peter andre on gb news britain's news channel. >> we'll be right back . earlier
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& co weeknights from. six >> welcome back to saturday morning live with myself and peter andre. now you're going to like this next story because you have been in i'm a celebrity. get me out of here, haven't you? and there have been some shocked departures this departures from the jungle this week. thought was week. so we thought it was only right delved into the right that we delved into the goings on as well as taking a look back at it. on my opinion on the best series we're going to talking about 2004. was it to be talking about 2004. was it 2004? 2004, when our very own peter andre claimed second place? actually it was third, but who's counting ? but who's counting? >> who's i wasn't first, that's for sure. >> who wrote that? >> who wrote that? >> i'm always very excited to welcome my fellow campmate jennie bond, who i haven't spoken years. she's going
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spoken to for years. she's going to give us her thoughts on this series. our own to give us her thoughts on this series. how our own to give us her thoughts on this series. how are our own to give us her thoughts on this series. how are you? our own to give us her thoughts on this series. how are you? lovely. in series. how are you? lovely. jennie are you all right? hello yeah. okay. does this. does this series bring back memories ? series bring back memories? >> yeah , it does, doesn't it? >> yeah, it does, doesn't it? i'm sure it must do for you as well . i i'm sure it must do for you as well. i always i'm sure it must do for you as well . i always think of you when well. i always think of you when icook well. i always think of you when i cook rice. actually, you were really good at rice. you were an ace at that. and you kept us happy singing and i think we had a lot of fun . we got on pretty a lot of fun. we got on pretty well, didn't we? >> we had the best time. you know, it's really weird when you think about it, jennie, that there's so there's not many people in the world that have experienced the jungle show. and, you know, i mean, in my in my situation, obviously it's my children are the only two ever jungle babies really , that came jungle babies really, that came from . yeah. so isn't that from. yeah. so isn't that amazing? but what about you? have you do you watch it and just sort of think, oh my gosh, you know, you can you can smell the smells and taste the food
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and i do. >> i do . and i think who's >> i do. and i think who's sleeping in my bed? and i feel quite nostalgic about it because i think for us, you know, it was such a break from for everyone. isuppose such a break from for everyone. i suppose from social. i don't think there was social media. but a break from your phones, a break from emails. was break from your emails. it was i found very tranquil , a little found it very tranquil, a little bit i think that's the bit boring. i think that's the worst bored in the worst thing. being bored in the jungle. yeah >> yeah. what are you making >> yeah. so what are you making with happening now and with what's happening now and with what's happening now and with nigel farage? >> well, i think nigel is showing his vulnerability . he's showing his vulnerability. he's also got naked ambition, which i think is a little bit optimistic. personally. someone who feels he has to do the trials because he wants 25% of airtime. i don't think that's very endearing. and then when he does get to do the trials, he doesn't seem to be good at doesn't seem to be very good at them. i know jenny, i them. actually. i know jenny, i was disappointed with that was a bit disappointed with that bushtucker trial the other day. was a bit disappointed with that busi tucker trial the other day. was a bit disappointed with that busi don't' trial the other day. was a bit disappointed with that busi don't knowthe other day. was a bit disappointed with that busi don't know ife other day. was a bit disappointed with that busi don't know if you 1er day. was a bit disappointed with that busi don't know if you watched >> i don't know if you watched that i think he had to that one. i think he had to stick his head under water and that one. i think he had to sti
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water we had last night. >> couldn't undo a padlock. >> he couldn't undo a padlock. he completely incapable of he was completely incapable of getting right hole. he was completely incapable of geseemed right hole. he was completely incapable of geseemed so, right hole. he was completely incapable of geseemed so, yeah, ght hole. he was completely incapable of geseemed so, yeah, not hole. he was completely incapable of geseemed so, yeah, not tooz. he was completely incapable of geseemed so, yeah, not too good it seemed so, yeah, not too good for him and fred. i mean, i'm always. i'm fred. i'm sure he's absolutely loved . he is. but absolutely loved. he is. but he's a little bit of a prima donna, isn't he? around the cooking the cooking is one cooking and the cooking is one of the best things of the day because it's so boring. if you get to cook. that's kind of fun. yeah you're i mean, i remember the whole cooking thing. >> it was of just just >> it was sort of like just just a be able to eat a dream to be able to eat anything. now, when you, when we were in the jungle, i have to say the actual real story that should have been focussed on was you rotten. because you and johnny rotten. because because you had someone who was anti establishment, you were the royal correspond . and this there royal correspond. and this there was some sparks there, but it didn't really i don't think they really showed a lot of that . do really showed a lot of that. do you remember all that ? you remember all that? >> i remember getting on really well with john, actually , well with john, actually, because i felt that he you know, he loved the jungle and the wildlife and the experience like i did . and we had a couple of
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i did. and we had a couple of discussions, i suppose, about royalty, but i felt that he was one apart from you , one of my one of apart from you, one of my best mates in there. i mean, the person that. everyone person didn't get that. everyone thought i would get on who was lord ? lord? and i did lord brocket? lord? he and i did not get lord brocket yeah, not get on lord brocket yeah, but i just thought that. >> yeah, you guys together, we're a real. i know what you're going to say. i can feel it. >> literally. jenny looking back at these pictures, absolutely incredible. looks so incredible. ant and dec looks so young.i incredible. ant and dec looks so young . i mean, i know it was 19 young. i mean, i know it was 19 years ago now. look so years ago now. pete you look so different . different. >> okay? the hair. >> okay? the hair. >> i mean, just say what you're going to say. the headband just say i looked really young there. you look really young. >> that's your . that's what >> that's what your. that's what you're getting at. >> but was 19 years ago, to >> but it was 19 years ago, to be fair. it was. >> headband was though. >> headband was great though. i still rock once. still rock them once. >> like your accessories, >> you like your accessories, don't that's lovely, jenny. >> you like your accessories, don'tyou that's lovely, jenny. >> you like your accessories, don'tyou and at's lovely, jenny. >> you like your accessories, don'tyou and at's lcclearly�*nny. >> you like your accessories, don'tyou and at's lcclearly had that you and peter clearly had such lovely friendship in the such a lovely friendship in the jungle. do you feel like you do form close friendships form really close friendships really quickly when you're in that environment? that kind of environment? >> think you have to,
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>> ant oh, i think you have to, yeah.i >> ant oh, i think you have to, yeah. i think the secret is to be yourself. and there are other people you get along with people that you get along with just less lot with them . i just less a lot with them. i remember, i remember being very sort of motherly kerry katona sort of motherly to kerry katona because she a bit frightened of some. she got a bit upset from time to time. she was brilliant. she was the queen of the jungle. and pete, you remember on the last you had you last day you had i think you were in whole lot of were encased in a whole lot of spiders something. and you spiders or something. and you came back and you were really stressed about it. and i remember rubbing your back, which pleasure . which was a pleasure. >> i have to say, jenny, you were of you were one of the were one of you were one of the nicest ever , honestly. nicest people ever, honestly. >> oh, well, that's very true. >> oh, well, that's very true. >> right now, things have changed so much. i've got my two little grandchildren in the background, hope they're background, and i hope they're going because going to okay because they're very they're doing very tiny. so they're doing their behave. very tiny. so they're doing the oh, behave. very tiny. so they're doing the oh, look, behave. very tiny. so they're doing the oh, look, jenny, . very tiny. so they're doing the oh, look, jenny, whilst we've >> oh, look, jenny, whilst we've got to ask you got you, we need to ask you about game. the book that about end game. the book that everyone is talking about this week. oh, bescoby the naming of those two royals, which we're not going to do on the show today. not going to do on the show today . okay. but somehow made
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today. okay. but somehow made their way into the book in the netherlands before it was pulled . i mean, what do you make of this whole debacle this week ? this whole debacle this week? >> well, i think it's very sad . >> well, i think it's very sad. i think it's a very unpleasant, nasty , snide book. he makes some nasty, snide book. he makes some very unfair , flattering, cruel, very unfair, flattering, cruel, i think, remarks about almost every member of the royal family except surprise, surprise. harry and meghan and the naming of these two individuals. i think is very disruptive to the work. the good work that they are doing. and i'm surprised that buckingham palace have taken a rather different stand on this. instead of saying nothing , instead of saying nothing, they're making it very clear that they actually are considering all options . yeah. considering all options. yeah. and so include legal action. >> yeah, the silence definitely is deafening, as they say . do is deafening, as they say. do you think, harry and meghan had anything to do with it ? anything to do with it? >> well, you know, we have their word. i don't think they're
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liars by any means. i would never accuse them of that. and they are letting it known they are letting it be known they've official. they've said nothing official. but via, know, friends but via, i don't know, friends or whatever they don't or whatever because they don't talk mainstream media. talk to the mainstream media. they're they haven't talk to the mainstream media. thejanything they haven't talk to the mainstream media. thejanything do they haven't talk to the mainstream media. thejanything do they it.ven't had anything to do with it. i think it would be helpful if they stood publicly said they stood up and publicly said that and denounced the book and what's in but they haven't what's in it. but they haven't done either. done that either. >> what do make of prime >> what do you make of prime minister, our former prime minister, our former prime minister, , he's minister, boris johnson, he's been speaking or writing in his daily mail column and he says that around this question of prince archie's skin colour , prince archie's skin colour, he's written that it's not remotely racist to question a baby's skin colour before they're they're born. what do you make of those comments? >> i think that's absolutely true. i mean, sir trevor phillips , who is a very well phillips, who is a very well known major equality campaigner, has said the same, that it's absolutely perfectly normal in a family to say, oh, i wonder what our baby's going to look will look like. mum or dad will. ginger hair had ginger hair. i mean, is that offensive to say?
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will it be ginger ? will it have will it be ginger? will it have a nose, have big ears? a big nose, will have big ears? you it's the kind of you know, it's the kind of discussions normal have. discussions normal people have. so i think it is a storm in a teacup. >> jenny, really, really good to see you this morning. lovely to reunite . right? the friends reunite. right? the friends through the screen. bye bye. thank so much, jenny, thank through the screen. bye bye. tha|for so much, jenny, thank through the screen. bye bye. tha|for youro much, jenny, thank through the screen. bye bye. tha|for your time:h, jenny, thank through the screen. bye bye. tha|for your time .|, jenny, thank you for your time. >> you know it this goes back to what i was saying before, where people they people get offended because they can. we're my can. right. and we're my family's greek and we always talk about, is the baby going to be dark ? is the baby going to be dark? is the baby going to have dark eyes? is the baby going to be english looking? you know, blue eyes? how is know, with the blue eyes? how is that that is a normal that offensive? that is a normal conversation. that conversation. families have that . you know, i just i don't know that that to me, just makes no sense . sense. >> it's really difficult, isn't it, because we weren't actually in the room, so we don't know what the conversation was. but i think you're right in if you're literally speculating literally just speculating about what like, what the baby might look like, i think that's with any think that's natural with any couple, it? just to talk couple, isn't it? just to talk about your baby look like. >> it's very different if you say something malicious. if
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say something malicious. yes. if you're malicious you're saying it in a malicious way, course it's way, it's of course it's offensive. but if you're offensive. yes. but if you're asking we asking a question and again, we weren't don't know . weren't there, so we don't know. >> no. but it's really interesting, though, that you're saying and you've experienced families and you've experienced it yourself. well, us it yourself. yeah, well, let us know think that. we know what you think of that. we know what you think of that. we know to get you know that's going to get you talking home. talking at home. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> for sure, if it's >> one thing for sure, if it's greek, we're always going to have coming have big noses anyway, coming up, talking to the genius up, we're talking to the genius couple tackling the vaping epidemic among children. yes >> plus in the studio we'll have the creator of a free online mental health platform called just ask a question. it's really good, isn't it? it's really looking forward to that. you're with us on saturday morning live on . on.
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news is. >> good morning. you're watching saturday morning live with myself and peter andre. really, really good to have your company .thank really good to have your company . thank you so much forjoining us. now, this is something that might prick your ears up. this morning. you might have heard those really, quite frankly, scary statistics regarding the rise in children who are vaping. but it is difficult because it's quite a difficult thing to detect, isn't it, if kids are vaping. >> yeah. so we're really pleased to be joined in the studio by simon and jean hassett , the simon and jean hassett, the founders of vape guardian . founders of vape guardian. fantastic, fantastic thing. you guys are doing a fantastic sensor, so tell us about it, please . please. >> um, primarily we've made a
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device for schools which gets fitted in hard to police areas that can tell teachers for an app that can tell teachers for an app or email if kids are vaping because it is a growing problem, isn't it? >> i mean, we just spoke about those growing those growing statistics. 20, 23, 20.5% of children had tried vaping. i mean, it's vast, isn't it? >> in schools it's no surprise really, because the flavours are so targeted at children. they're in shops to next the sweets. there's bright colour packaging. if i was a kid, i'm sure i'd want to give one try. want to give one a try. >> so where did this start with you why want to you guys? why did you want to create a sensor that can detect when kids are vaping? >> well, we've got a really close friend of ours who's a secondary school teacher and he came to simon and said, you know, just on a casual conversation , there was no there conversation, there was no there was nothing to able to police was nothing to be able to police it in schools. there was no way of to get on of of being able to get on top of the problem. then that's the problem. so then that's when they you went off they that's when you went off with your toolkit then and said , with your toolkit then and said, hang second, there's hang on a second, there's something do here. so something we can do here. so
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that's where it started. and then the more we got into it and then the more we got into it and the more researched it the more we researched it, it just , it's a very clever just yeah, it's a very clever idea because obviously you can't have cctv cameras in toilets and things like that in the schools. >> but a sensor is a brilliant idea. but and just please correct me, here is it true that i read somewhere that schools are trying to not have to tell the parents if their kids are caught vaping or something? because i would be i'd be furious if my kid was vaping and no one told me, yeah, there's every school seems to handle it differently. >> we found out a lot of schools were just straight suspending were just straight up suspending kids as they caught kids as soon as they caught them, thought them, which we thought was terrible these kids are terrible because these kids are getting addicted they're getting addicted and they're marketed really marketed to. so it's not really their fault. schools their fault. but some schools are keeping it quiet, trying to get the kids detention get the kids into detention because it might look because i think it might look like problem. so like they've got a problem. so we've introduced safeguarding by working with the 300 schools that help schools that were in to help schools know how to help kids stop vaping beat the addiction vaping and beat the addiction and you guys have got for children, haven't you? >> so is a cause really
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>> so this is a cause really close to heart. must be close to your heart. you must be really worried about for really worried about that for your as yeah, your own kids as well. yeah, really worried. >> i ten year old she starts in september and just from all of the parents that we know we everyone knows it's a huge issue but it doesn't seem to be spoken about enough publicly. i think so. we were really worried and we just we are we are in the school that she's going to. so we feel a little a little bit better about that. but yeah, that's what really . that's what really. >> and what do you think about people who say, it's people who say, well, it's better smoking , it's better than smoking, it's healthier for you. it's a better alternative? would you buy into that or do you still think it's just just bad? just just as bad? >> just too to tell. >> it's just too early to tell. i think, you know, we're we're looking at smoking. 50 years ago when , you know, this is a whole when, you know, this is a whole new thing that we don't know the effects , that it's we don't know effects, that it's we don't know the effects that it's going the true effects that it's going to have in 20 years time. but we are to see real are starting to see real problems with respiratory and mental health issues. and
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vaping. >> probably the whole purpose of it was for people who wanted to stop smoking. but what's happening is that we've got a whole generation of kids who've never even smoked before, who were starting vaping, so it's almost like , you know, you're almost like, you know, you're jumping . almost like, you know, you're jumping. it's almost like, you know, you're jumping . it's almost like we're jumping. it's almost like we're creating something new for people who've never tried anything and it's quite dangerous, right? in that respect , absolutely. respect, absolutely. >> think the numbers are that >> i think the numbers are that 80% of kids who vape which we now is 1 in 5 kids, 80% of now know is 1 in 5 kids, 80% of them have never touched a cigarette. so this is we're just creating new health creating a whole new health problem it's a sweet problem here. it's a sweet shop. >> , it's the it's the >> yeah, it's the it's the advertising being targeted at. >> i was going to ask you about marketing because, i mean, i don't i don't vape i don't smoke, but it is tempting when you go into a corner shop and you go into a corner shop and you see these wonderful colours and these lovely smells. i mean, some our co—presenters here and these lovely smells. i mean, sorvape. our co—presenters here and these lovely smells. i mean, sorvape. iur co—presenters here and these lovely smells. i mean, sorvape. i probably senters here and these lovely smells. i mean, sorvape. i probably shouldn'tere do vape. i probably shouldn't say that on air because you're not studio, not supposed to in the studio, but and smells but anyway. and it smells incredible. you can see just how well persuasive it would be to
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give it a go. >> i think the difference is it's not vaping is not peer pressure, peer influence pressure, it's peer influence because the when they're doing it, don't see it as being it, they don't see it as being a bad thing and it's always promoted as being a healthier opfion promoted as being a healthier option about education. >> so that's why we want to separate the two topics. smoking is one problem and vaping is a separate problem. whenever separate problem. but whenever vaping mentioned , it's thrown vaping is mentioned, it's thrown in smoking and it does seem in with smoking and it does seem better on the face. >> so what would you like to see happen? would what would happen? what would what would you make happen? what would what would yc more make happen? what would what would yc more of make happen? what would what would ycmore of an make happen? what would what would ycmore of an awareness make happen? what would what would ycmore of an awareness for make people? >> so there's the these smoke free britain consults on the government's conducted at the moment and hopefully we'll get something good out of that next week. um i think it's going to be along the lines of they'll add extra taxes to them, which is, which a good step in the is, which is a good step in the right we think right direction. but we think there should be an all out ban except prescription except on prescription like australia have done, where you just a prescription if just you get a prescription if you want to stop smoking and you can get vapes and then it's not shown it's just shown to children, it's just it's tool stopping
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it's a tool for stopping smoking. >> w— >> well, we've got a long way to go this, we? but you go on this, haven't we? but you two the work that you do is two and the work that you do is absolutely you've got absolutely brilliant. you've got absolutely brilliant. you've got a there. a really amazing product there. thank and thank you for coming in and talking morning. talking to us this morning. really, to see you. really, really good to see you. >> thank you, guys. you. >> thank you, guys. thank you. thank you. right today is one of the days in british the busiest days in the british shopping calendar. and whilst people for people will be looking out for the bargains online, yes, the best bargains online, yes, they be. they will be. >> bid to catch >> but in a bid to catch shoplifters during the countdown to yorkshire to christmas, west yorkshire police going undercover in police are going undercover in huddersfield town centre . huddersfield town centre. >> our yorkshire and humber. reporter anna riley has the story . story. >> to crack down on shoplifting in the run up to christmas , in the run up to christmas, plainclothed police officers are covertly patrolling shops in huddersfield to catch thieves in the act. it comes as shoplifting in england and wales has risen by a quarter in the past 12 months, costing retailers . £953 months, costing retailers. £953 million a year. and west yorkshire is the second worst affected region . affected region. >> it is a problem and small businesses, especially , we get
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businesses, especially, we get targeted and obviously coming up to christmas, there's cost of living crisis. you know, we are seeing an increase in shoplifting . so this hopefully shoplifting. so this hopefully prevention piece that we're doing around, you know, making it so that so that it's harder for criminals come to for criminals to come to huddersfield to target huddersfield and to target the small trying huddersfield and to target the small a trying huddersfield and to target the small a living. trying huddersfield and to target the small a living. that trying to make a living. that plainclothes team can actually add just added a different variance, really. so they can go in and watch and obviously not be seen and not be and then can apprehend offenders . apprehend offenders. >> the undercover action here also supports the rollout of smartwater for forensic spray. >> it involves marking high value products with specific dna. that's linked to specific shops. it assists us when we arrest shoplifters with products on them, and they can be linked to individual stores. and it helps get convictions in court. the schemes funded by huddersfield business improve district to protect retail workers income and safety . workers income and safety. >> the scheme is to send a clear message. we are watching you so
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don't come into the town centre unless you're going to behave nicely and actually pay for your goods. nicely and actually pay for your goods . 63% of retail crime nicely and actually pay for your goods. 63% of retail crime is committed by repeat offenders , committed by repeat offenders, so the huddersfield bid rangers know who they are, the police know who they are, the police know who they are, the police know who they are, hence the undercover working. so we can be proactive in our responses now and we can make a difference this christmas . this christmas. >> shopkeepers in the town like david whittle feel reassured by the campaign. he owns a family run ladies fashion boutique and is always vigilant in protecting their stock . their stock. >> everything in the shop, everything is tagged. yes, i'm not naive. we lose 1 or 2 things recently we've had a lady who has brought her own handbag in and left her handbag and taken a new handbag . you can't be new handbag. you can't be complacent, but it is fighting crime . i'm obviously when people crime. i'm obviously when people are hard up or they're struggling for money, then crime sometimes increases . so anything sometimes increases. so anything that bid and the police can do
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any authority can do to help is very, very helpful. >> the message here is shoplifters beware , for as you shoplifters beware, for as you just don't know who might be watching you. anna riley gb news huddersfield , anna riley there huddersfield, anna riley there with that report. >> and it is really difficult, isn't it? cost of living crisis . isn't it? cost of living crisis. you can see why some people , all you can see why some people, all who want to make their kids happy or get little presents, their family, you can see how it does but it's the small does happen, but it's the small businesses that feel for businesses that i feel sorry for . and they're going to be so affected shoplifting in the affected by shoplifting in the run it's run up to christmas, it's really, difficult. run up to christmas, it's really, got difficult. run up to christmas, it's really, got toiifficult. run up to christmas, it's really, got to be cult. run up to christmas, it's really, got to be vigilant. >> it's got to be vigilant. yeah, absolutely right. next yeah, absolutely right. our next guest his mission to guest has made it his mission to provide help with guest has made it his mission to provide health help with guest has made it his mission to provide health conditionsp with guest has made it his mission to provide health conditions are ith mental health conditions are reaching crisis point. and you really want to show them, right? >> absolutely. so the thing is, for me, i think it's a lot in society the minute and it's all based on crisis, right? >> all the information you receive, everyone's saying you need to talk. and that's the message bandied message that's been bandied about last 20 years.
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about for the last 20 years. and i don't think message is i don't think that message is working. out. so working. okay, hear me out. so it's years when someone it's ten years from when someone first something when first feels something to when they average. they reach out on average. so their mental health gradually gets worse and worse and worse then they hit crisis. so this message we need to talk is message of we need to talk is sometimes difficult for sometimes really difficult for a lot when you're lot of people. so when you're early journey, maybe lot of people. so when you're earlj start journey, maybe lot of people. so when you're earlj start mentalzy, maybe lot of people. so when you're earlj start mental health be just start your mental health journey. people let's say 24 year old, 24 year old lad at work, doing really well at work, making loads of money, going out at the weekend. something's making loads of money, going out at tquite ekend. something's making loads of money, going out at t quite ekencin something's making loads of money, going out at t quite ekencin his something's making loads of money, going out at tquite ekencin his head.�*|ing's not quite right in his head. this need to talk this message of we need to talk and genuinely don't and talk. i genuinely don't think that guy is going to be able to so what they able to talk. so what do they need do? they need to need to do? i think they need to understand health understand what mental health really an illness. understand what mental health realsomething an illness. understand what mental health realsomething everyillness. understand what mental health realsomething every day ss. understand what mental health realsomething every day that it's something every day that you need manage. can have you need to manage. you can have cold because it goes to you need to manage. you can have col(gym. because it goes to you need to manage. you can have col(gym. is because it goes to you need to manage. you can have col(gym. is itbecause it goes to you need to manage. you can have col(gym. is it playrse it goes to you need to manage. you can have col(gym. is it play thet goes to the gym. is it play the clarinet, whatever you need to do to yourself better. do to make yourself better. so what trying with jack what i'm trying to do with jack is that's got is create a platform that's got all right information from all the right information from the right sources where people can what can go and understand what mental that mental health is because that information beginning information at the beginning could stop could really help and stop people crisis because people getting to crisis because crisis worse. people getting to crisis because crisso worse. people getting to crisis because crisso danny worse. people getting to crisis because crisso danny grey, worse. people getting to crisis because crisso danny grey, you»rse. people getting to crisis because crisso danny grey, you are the >> so danny grey, you are the founder jack, is just
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>> so danny grey, you are the fouraer jack, is just >> so danny grey, you are the foura question , is just >> so danny grey, you are the foura question . is just >> so danny grey, you are the foura question . so is just >> so danny grey, you are the foura question . so how. just >> so danny grey, you are the foura question . so how does it ask a question. so how does it work as a platform? >> okay, so you're going to jack completely free platform and then we've got world leading doctors on there. we've got people who've lived experience. pete is there well , well pete is on there as well, well known faces and you can go and ask literally thousands and thousands of questions about mental condition , learns mental health condition, learns about about fitness and about yoga, about fitness and get the right information . get the right information. because for me, if you get the right information, it's almost the first three therapy sessions actually is just information given. diagnosis or given. it's not diagnosis or anything like that. so if we can give information on give people information early on in genuinely in theirjourney, i genuinely believe help them to believe that can help them to shift the mindset, to make an impact, not crisis . impact, to not hit crisis. >> got so you've got >> and you've got so you've got specialists each to specialists in each field to answer questions , right? answer these questions, right? because so someone because that's so if someone asks a question about depression, get absolutely. depression, they get absolutely. >> paul gilbert, >> we've got like paul gilbert, he's in uk he's the leading expert in uk for depression . can him for depression. you can ask him 170 professor janet 170 questions. professorjanet treasure, she's now classed as the world leader on eating disorders. you can ask 170 questions. it's not just about people through a mental people going through a mental health . it's also
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health crisis. it's also the support for network me. so like the mums, the dads , if someone's support for network me. so like the an|ms, the dads , if someone's support for network me. so like the an eatinge dads , if someone's support for network me. so like the an eating disorder,f someone's support for network me. so like the an eating disorder, how1eone's support for network me. so like the an eating disorder, how do ne's got an eating disorder, how do they know how to approach them, what questions what to say? so their questions you ask on there and you can ask on there as well and ask people have lived ask people who have lived experience or maybe how it feels and information to and get the right information to support that crisis. now you're a man of many >> now you're a man of many talents because not only are you doing which is incredible, doing this, which is incredible, but of course, you founded war paint men , which is paint for men, which is everywhere. i everywhere, everywhere. i everywhere, everywhere i see adverts for everywhere. >> i mean, it's such a successful brand. what is it ? successful brand. what is it? >> so it's a men's makeup brand. and look, that's a tool that i've used because i suffer with bdd. so body dysmorphic disorder. about the disorder. so i obsess about the way i because was bullied way i look because i was bullied when was younger. so i've been when i was younger. so i've been using makeup last 20 using makeup for the last 20 years a tool. got it on years as a tool. got it on today. on myself. today. put it on myself. >> i was looking at you thinking, got paint thinking, have you got war paint on? looks but on? yeah, it looks good, but it's a that i've used. it's a tool that i've used. >> but because of the stigma around mental around it, similar to mental health, guys health, people and guys especially weren't using makeup. so i used as a very good tool so i used it as a very good tool for me. so what i wanted to do is a brand broke is create a brand that broke through and of resonated
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through and sort of resonated with maybe product with men to maybe try a product because them. and because it might help them. and that's thing for me, that's the other thing for me, with health with mental health really quickly, at quickly, if you look at everything changed everything that's changed the world in mental health, in society, a brand right? so society, it's a brand right? so apple, steve jobs was more obsessed way obsessed about the way the computer it computer looked, the way it worked. by—product was worked. so the by—product was an amazing bull. amazing product. red bull. it's not drink for but not a great drink for you, but they beautiful ali they marketed it. beautiful ali was the by—product of that great brand. drink. who's the was the by—product of that great bran bull drink. who's the was the by—product of that great branbull for drink. who's the was the by—product of that great bran bull for mentatho's the was the by—product of that great bran bull for mental health?a red bull for mental health? >> for me. >> that's the problem for me. >> that's the problem for me. >> a brand. that's >> you need a brand. that's great through especially to the younger and people great through especially to the youngon and people great through especially to the youngon in and people great through especially to the youngon in their and people great through especially to the youngon in their journey people great through especially to the youngon in their journey that le early on in their journey that will well, mental will understand, oh well, mental health you health isn't an illness, you just manage it every just need to manage it every day. that's what i want to day. and that's what i want to do jack as well. do with jack as well. >> do feel that >> and danny, do you feel that change? you as you as change? so you know, as you as you mentioned, people are you just mentioned, people are becoming their becoming more open about their mental health then mental health and then with makeup, men are makeup, do you feel like men are now like they now feeling like they can experiment and can put on a bit of to make themselves of makeup to make themselves feel absolutely. of makeup to make themselves feeiwell, absolutely. of makeup to make themselves feeiwell, like absolutely. of makeup to make themselves feeiwell, like abs> well, it's like war paint, sort of. six years ago, sort of. five, six years ago, no one even talking men one was even talking about men wearing it. hopefully we've we've changed narrative a we've changed that narrative a little bit so guys can try it once. everyone to wear once. then everyone has to wear it. it a go. and it. but maybe give it a go. and
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that's what we've done. and the same we want to do with same thing we want to do with jack sort change jack is sort of change the transition health is jack is sort of change the tra illness health is jack is sort of change the tra illness it's health is jack is sort of change the tra illness it's crisis. th is an illness and it's crisis. mental every minute mental health is every minute of every it's like the gym, every day. it's like the gym, right? don't go to the gym right? you don't go to the gym because arm. so because you break your arm. so we want shift that narrative we want to shift that narrative of mental health is. of what mental health really is. >> danny danny >> look, danny kelly, danny grey, sorry. absolutely wonderful you. you wonderful to meet you. what you do absolutely brilliant. do is absolutely brilliant. thank you so much for everything. check out jack, check stay check out warpaint, and stay with to be with us. we're going to be talking the elgin marbles talking about the elgin marbles debate and catching you up with the latest showbiz news. >> send us >> and don't forget to send us your questions about the stories in this email us in the news this week. email us at gb news at views. .com or at gb news at gb views. .com or tweet us with the hashtags. ask ellie pete . ellie or ask pete. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of whether on . gb news. whether on. gb news. >> hello , welcome to your latest >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather. >> i'm ellie glacier. so it was a very cold and frosty start for most of us this morning with some mist and freezing fog that could through much of the could linger through much of the day. slack winds, though , day. quite slack winds, though,
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across the uk, various across much of the uk, various frontal bringing frontal systems bringing some showers, particularly across the west. many of us, it west. but for many of us, it will be a dry and bright day. that mist and freezing fog across anglia, across parts of east anglia, eastern linger for eastern england could linger for much the day, but many of much of the day, but for many of us will be turning brighter us it will be turning brighter as mist and fog clears as that mist and fog clears plenty of sunshine through this afternoon. showers, afternoon. those showers, though, afternoon. those showers, thougrperhaps turning wintry coasts perhaps turning wintry over hills of wales and over the hills of wales and northwest . for scotland, northwest england. for scotland, though, plenty though, a much drier day. plenty of feeling chilly of sunshine, but feeling chilly here, perhaps staying below freezing for some spots . but as freezing for some spots. but as we saturday evening, we go through saturday evening, those showers continue to push in from the west. again turning wintry over hills across wintry over the hills across parts wales, into parts parts of wales, even into parts of northern northern england as well. and could be some well. and there could be some icy stretches through sunday morning drier across morning and staying drier across parts of scotland, plenty parts of scotland, though plenty of skies and turning of clear skies and turning very cold we could see cold here again, we could see down to —8 or —10. but perhaps staying just little bit above staying just a little bit above freezing across the southwest through sunday, a bit of a cloudier start across the southern half uk. some southern half of the uk. some icy stretches still possible through sunday morning, through much of sunday morning,
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but the southwest, those but across the southwest, those showers pushing in from showers widely pushing in from the as we go towards the southwest as we go towards the southwest as we go towards the afternoon, perhaps turning heavy and heavy at times, drier and brighter across much of scotland, though plenty of sunshine still sunshine around, but still feeling perhaps feeling chilly here. perhaps staying below freezing for some, but little across the but a little milder across the southwest . that warm feeling southwest. that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> who is it? we're here for the show . welcome to the dinosaur show. welcome to the dinosaur hour with me, john cleese . haha, hour with me, john cleese. haha, i was married to a therapist and you survived . i thought we were you survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie second best. my getting hugh laurie second best. my belly's
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gb news good. >> good morning and welcome to saturday morning live with me, ellie costello and peter andre. thank you very much for your company. >> it's a great first day. we've got a very, very busy show for you today. here's what's coming up . up. >> i'm afraid we're >> yeah, and i'm afraid we're going start with misery going to start with some misery for train passengers, including me, are announced me, as strikes are announced just christmas. just in time for christmas. they're months they're threatening six months of action. we will of industrial action. we will have everything you need to know. >> the king was wearing a tie depicting the greek flag at the
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cop 28 climate summit yesterday . cop 28 climate summit yesterday. was this an olive branch after the diplomatic row over the elgin marbles ? i'm not sure. elgin marbles? i'm not sure. >> and it's beginning to look a lot like christmas. >> well, the weather is anyway . >> well, the weather is anyway. snow and ice warnings across the country today as temperatures drop below minus ten. could we be in for a white christmas? i think so . think so. >> hope so. and former prime minister boris johnson has waded into the so—called royal race row , saying it's not racist to row, saying it's not racist to question a baby's skin colour andifs question a baby's skin colour and it's just human nature. do you agree ? i do. let us know. you agree? i do. let us know. you . and this show is nothing you. and this show is nothing without you. >> we have been inundate with all of your lovely emails. we are going to share some of those with you. do keep them coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. and remember, use remember, you can use the hashtag ask kelly or hashtag ask pete. >> but before we do anything else , we're going to go to
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else, we're going to go to i just want to say, karen oh, thank you. and we're going to go to the news with our . very good to the news with our. very good morning to you at 11 11:01 euanne morning to you at 11 11:01 elianne aaron armstrong here in the newsroom . the newsroom. >> flights have now reopened at glasgow airport while the airport is trying to get them up and running. the airport at least has now been cleared. and after heavy snow caused it to be closed temporarily, temperatures have dropped to as low as midnight overnight. yellow warnings are in place for snow andice warnings are in place for snow and ice across many parts of the uk. several sporting events have been disrupted and cancelled, including fa cup games, scottish league matches and today's racing fixture at newcastle . racing fixture at newcastle. meteorologist john hammond says as the cold temperatures won't last long, the focus of the cold shifting northwards, something a bit milder, trying to push in from the south. >> there the cold air sweeps back south again later on monday into tuesday. so we're not
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waving goodbye to this cold spell just yet. i think through the middle of the week, potentially severe frost potentially further severe frost . and then later on this week into next weekend , a complete into next weekend, a complete transformation . it's going to transformation. it's going to turn mild , wet, windy, soggy and turn mild, wet, windy, soggy and horrible rail passengers are facing yet more disruption as train drivers continue to strike over pay. >> no east midlands trains are running today and there's a limited service between london and scotland on lner. separately, an overtime ban across all services in england until next weekend will cause further chaos. aslef members have voted overwhelmingly to continue taking industrial for action the next six months. the rail delivery group says they should accept an 8% pay offer, but shadow culture secretary thangam debbonaire says the government need to start negotiating strikes, help none of us, you know, the working people who want to get to work, people who want to get to work, people who want to get to work, people who want to get to visit family and friends, it's really important strikes are important that these strikes are settled as soon possible.
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settled as soon as possible. >> really hope that the >> and i really hope that the government and unions government and the unions can negotiate that fair negotiate that and a fair settlement as soon they can. settlement as soon as they can. >> an 84 year old man has died following a huge explosion at a house in edinburgh. the blast, which happened the baberton which happened in the baberton area last night, heard from area last night, was heard from several a year several miles away. a 43 year old and a 54 year old man old woman and a 54 year old man have taken to hospital have been taken to hospital while of neighbouring while a number of neighbouring properties were evacuated as a precaution . police say there are precaution. police say there are no suspicious circumstances. a gofundme page has been set up to help raise money for the family. bons help raise money for the family. boris johnson is expected to admit he made mistakes during the pandemic when he appeared before the covid inquiry next week. the former prime minister will however , that his will argue, however, that his government got the big decisions right , with the claiming right, with the times claiming he say he helped save tens he will say he helped save tens if not hundreds thousands of if not hundreds of thousands of lives by preventing the nhs from being overwhelmed . and some of being overwhelmed. and some of his staff already his senior staff have already given evidence. they've criticised indecision and criticised his indecision and poor leadership . 46 men have poor leadership. 46 men have been charged following clashes
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in birmingham on thursday night. the violence erupted ahead of aston villa's match against legia warsaw. west midlands police say five officers were injured when missiles were thrown by visiting football fans . the 43 people charged with the pubuc . the 43 people charged with the public order offence. two have been charged with assault and another with possession of a knife. another with possession of a ane.the another with possession of a knife. the disorder started after several polish fans were told they weren't going to be allowed into the stadium . a us allowed into the stadium. a us judge has ruled donald trump is not immune from being held accountable for 2020 election interference . mr trump's lawyers interference. mr trump's lawyers argued presidential immunity, saying his attempts to reject the election results fell within his presidential duties. but the judge says donald trump will be prosecuted like any other citizen he's accused of unlawfully trying to overturn his election defeat . this unlawfully trying to overturn his election defeat. this is gb news on tv, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker, too. that's it for the moment. now it is back to peter and . ellie well
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is back to peter and. ellie well , thank you so much forjoining , thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> now let's have a look at what you have been saying at home. >> yeah, you're very, very popular, is what popular, pete, is what i'm taking these emails. people taking from these emails. people are so to see you this are so happy to see you this morning. i to share some morning. so i want to share some of you. ralphine good of these with you. ralphine good morning lovely morning to you. says it's lovely to ellie and to see peter, andre, ellie and peter make a lovely team. welcome, peter , to the news welcome, peter, to the best news channel. peter you've always been a lovely, honest guy in all of your documentaries. you've got fan there in ralphine. got a big fan there in ralphine. you've got someone watching you down well . martin good down under as well. martin good morning to you. martin will morning to you. martin or will it will be it be? night—time it will be night time. good night time. night time. good evening to you. martin says evening to you. martin who says he's show he's watching the show in melbourne, he's melbourne, australia, and he's really it . and paul really enjoying it. and paul says, could listen to peter says, i could listen to peter all his attitude. so, all day, love his attitude. so, yeah, thank you. you're doing great, pete. you're doing great. >> well, that's really, really nice. says huge fan nice. okay. elaine says huge fan of news channel. all i can of the news channel. all i can say is a great duo. thank you very much, stan. a.m.
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very much, stan. 10 am. saturday and isabel saturday mornings and isabel says on christmas tree, says on the christmas tree, because is really because this is really important, put hers up in important, she put hers up in november. oh, did she ? okay. so november. oh, did she? okay. so it's very, very early december . it's very, very early december. and some people saying it's and some people are saying it's still and she said a still too early and she said a favourite song. finley sorry, says song is christmas says favourite song is christmas time. let bells by time. don't let the bells end by the a really the darkness. that's a really good of course we're good one because of course we're talking macgowan talking about shane macgowan and should number one should the pogues be number one this christmas? >> what wife is >> that's what his wife is asking never made it to asking for. never made it to number one. it's only as number one. it's only got as high number two. could it be high as number two. could it be christmas one this year? christmas number one this year? that's what been asking that's what we've been asking you as well what you and asking you as well what your christmas song you and asking you as well what your gary christmas song you and asking you as well what your gary says, ristmas song you and asking you as well what your gary says, ristrfavourite is. so gary says, my favourite christmas has got to be christmas song has got to be jona lewie. the cavalry . jona lewie. stop the cavalry. that's a really good one as well. christmas so well. great christmas song. so do views coming in on do keep your views coming in on all of the stories we are all of the stories that we are talking about today. gb views at gbnews.com. we're delighted gbnews.com. now we're delighted to be joined by political commentator matthew and commentator matthew selden and former mp mep sorry former brexit party mp mep sorry , belinda lucy , our very own , belinda lucy, our very own political correspondent olivia utley joins us here in the studio. >> yes.
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>> yes. >> and liv, let's start with you first, because members of the train drivers union aslef at east midlands railway and eleanor inaya have walked out today and don't i know it because i couldn't get a train into work today. it caused absolute chaos on the tracks. so what is going on? >> well, absolutely. and i think we can expect that chaos to continue for quite a long time. aslef which is the train drivers union as opposed to the station staff , are staging a union as opposed to the station staff, are staging a nine day walkout starting from today . walkout starting from today. now, 15 train operating companies are going to be affected altogether. it's lner and east midlands today. there'll be another four tomorrow and over the next week and a half there'll be another eight or companies walking eight or so companies walking out. now what aslef are demanding is a conversation with the transport secretary. they say that the transport secretary hasn't sat down round a table with them to negotiate since january 11th months ago. transport secretary mark harper says yes, we haven't sat down with them for 11 months, but in january we put to them what we
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believe is a fair and reasonable offer, and they have refused to put that offer to their members . put that offer to their members. now, that offer is a 4% pay rise, which works out as a rise from 60 grand to 65 grand for the average median train driver there. obviously, mark harper , there. obviously, mark harper, there. obviously, mark harper, the transport secretary, is hoping that people around the country, voters around the country, voters around the country will look at that stat and think, hey, £65,000 for on average a four day week, working 35 hours a week doesn't sound too bad. the train drivers are hoping that the public is going to essentially be very annoyed by the fact that their trains are cancelled. and look into the issue and feel sorry for the train drivers. so that's where we stand at the moment. aslef have said that they are willing to strike for another six months and it doesn't really look as though there's going to be an end in sight any time soon. the only sort of glimmer of hope for the government is that yesterday they they did agree a deal with
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rmt , which is the station staff rmt, which is the station staff union. essentially, they have been striking for the last year and the government has agreed a deal with them. yesterday which is a 5% pay rise, dated back to last year. so we can expect to see the staff at stations and on trains come back to work all very well. but if the trains aren't moving, that's not much good. >> so what about the timings then?i >> so what about the timings then? i mean, if you think from their point of view, obviously they're want they're going to want to hit hard at the time where it's going everyone. going to inconvenience everyone. so want, but so they get what they want, but it's christmas a time it's christmas time. it's a time where some people only get to see family once a year. see their family once a year. people still have get to people still have to get to work. the hospitals , city work. the hospitals, city sector. i mean, what are your thoughts here? thoughts on timing here? >> well, absolutely . obviously, >> well, absolutely. obviously, the union here, aslef, is the train union here, aslef, is choosing to strike at christmas because of the massive impact it's going to have on on on rail users. interestingly we the usage of trains has gone down massively since the pandemic. i think it's something like a 30% decrease in train use overall .
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decrease in train use overall. so during the working week, trains aren't as essential as they once were . lots more people they once were. lots more people working from home. et cetera . working from home. et cetera. which that train which means that the train drivers have to choose time drivers have to choose a time like when people are, like christmas when people are, as say, going up and down like christmas when people are, as country going up and down like christmas when people are, as country go see up and down like christmas when people are, as country go see theird down like christmas when people are, as country go see their family. the country to see their family. that time they choose to that is the time they choose to strike. now it's very tight strike. now it's a very tight line politically that these unions are having to walk a bit of a tightrope because on the one hand, they want to ensure essentially that they cause maximum damage. they won't quite put it like that, but obviously to people to their cause, to awaken people to their cause, they need to cause as much damage as possible. but on the other , if the public start other hand, if the public start getting up, if the public getting fed up, if the public think, hang on, i don't get to go and my family because go and see my family because because someone already because someone who's already earning as me earning twice as much as me doesn't want to go to work, then they will sympathy. they will lose sympathy. and if they will lose sympathy. and if they sympathy , they're less they lose sympathy, they're less and likely be able to and less likely to be able to agree sort of deal with the government. >> okay, olivia utley, thank you so bringing us up so much for bringing us up to speed on the latest in this very long running it feels long running dispute. it feels like it's never ending
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sometimes. but linda , what do sometimes. but linda, what do you make of this? i could i could shaking your head. you make of this? i could i coubelieve shaking your head. you make of this? i could i coubelieve it. shaking your head. you make of this? i could i coubelieve it. these|g your head. you make of this? i could i coubelieve it. these miserable,d. >> believe it. these miserable, selfish , joy sucking scrooges as selfish, joy sucking scrooges as ihave selfish, joy sucking scrooges as i have absolutely no sympathy for these trains. 65 grand. are you having a laugh ? want to you having a laugh? want to press a green for go and red for stop button in front of the train? i'm sure there's more to it. >> i think it's slightly more complicated. yeah. >> do think it will shock >> but i do think it will shock a lot of people, especially when nurses struggling their nurses are struggling on their pay nurses are struggling on their pay they such a huge pay and they do such a huge instrumental job and the other thing is it's so difficult for people trying to get by. you've got the of green got all the sort of green zealots telling get out of got all the sort of green zeaicars. alling get out of got all the sort of green zeaicars. then get out of got all the sort of green zeaicars. then you'vejet out of got all the sort of green zeaicars. then you've got)ut of got all the sort of green zeaicars. then you've got trains our cars. then you've got trains striking. what are supposed striking. what are we supposed to do? i never pass my driving test. the roads are safer for it. so i don't drive. so i really rely on trains to go and see my parents, to check in on my in—laws , to check in on my my in—laws, to check in on my family. especially when they're ill, people at ill, and to target people at christmas. they have no heart when they're on 65 grand a year for a job that, you know , i
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for a job that, you know, i wouldn't say you need to be an einstein for to have . matt 65 k einstein for to have. matt 65 k 35 hours for day working week. >> i mean , it seems quite >> i mean, it seems quite a cushy deal , >> i mean, it seems quite a cushy deal, does it >> i mean, it seems quite a cushy deal , does it not? do you cushy deal, does it not? do you think this is tone deaf in a cost of living crisis? >> if you're looking at me for sympathy train sympathy for these train drivers, looking drivers, you're looking in the wrong because i feel wrong place because i feel absolutely as angry as you do. why give you two quick examples? right. so my her mother is right. so my wife, her mother is supposed coming with her supposed to be coming with her husband on tuesday to watch our choir service every every advent i sing in a choir is a tiny, trivial example, but it's quite important. she loves coming. she can't come because driving the three hours into london and three hours into london and three hours into london and three hours back just doesn't make sense when you're 65. trains have to work. my wife commutes twice a week, six hour round trip to tunbridge wells to do her job every week and she do herjob every week and she could have been taking the train all year, but she couldn't trust the train service. when we live in country is trying to in a country which is trying to cut back on carbon, which is trying do the right thing and trying to do the right thing and we haven't got a train service
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that functions, it completely that functions, it is completely absurd. i think there'll very absurd. i think there'll be very little sympathy for these little public sympathy for these drivers. i had lot sympathy drivers. i had a lot of sympathy for the nurses when they were striking whether they striking whether or not they should another should have done is another question, but i certainly had sympathy them sympathy for them because i think and they sympathy for them because i think saving and they sympathy for them because i think saving work. and they sympathy for them because i think saving work. it's and they sympathy for them because i think saving work. it's not they sympathy for them because i think saving work. it's not to ey do life saving work. it's not to belittle what train drivers do, but £60,000, most people will look their look at that have their christmas derailed, excuse christmas plans derailed, excuse the pun, and be absolutely furious . furious. >> this should sack them, get new ones on board. >> don't mince your words, belinda. >> train driver. i could. >> train driver. i could. >> i'm just thinking of changing only green and as you say. only green and red as you say. >> let us know what you >> well, let us know what you think that at home. think of that story at home. i know frustrates a lot of know it's frustrates a lot of you out there, so do keep those views in. quickly views coming in. just quickly say, is let's say, yes, you may. this is let's remember happening on the tories say, yes, you may. this is let's rementhe happening on the tories say, yes, you may. this is let's rementhe government)n the tories say, yes, you may. this is let's rementhe government has1e tories say, yes, you may. this is let's rementhe government has to tories say, yes, you may. this is let's rementhe government has to take; watch the government has to take some responsibility, for watch the government has to take sontotal ponsibility, for watch the government has to take sontotal failure lity, for watch the government has to take sontotal failure here. for the total failure here. >> tories have been in power for 13, nearly 14 years. these strikes and many others are happening under tory government. >> well, that is exactly what mick whelan of aslef. mick whelan has said of aslef. he's said it's on the he's basically said it's on the government to get round the
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table. yet. table. it hasn't happened yet. he them since he hasn't met them since january. so he's putting this solely door . well, solely at their door. well, look, we've got to move on to this next story. want to ask your opinion on this. belinda, let's with you. this let's start with you. this is bons let's start with you. this is boris johnson. waded boris johnson. he's waded into the royal race row. he says it's perfectly normal for people to discuss what a baby might look like, what colour their skin may be, what eyes, what eye colour they have . what do you make of they have. what do you make of those comments? some make those comments? some people make a of racism a career out of finding racism in everything a career out of finding racism in just everything a career out of finding racism in just wantzverything a career out of finding racism in just want to rything a career out of finding racism in just want to keep|g a career out of finding racism in just want to keep it on they just want to keep it on life support machine because they off it. they make money off it. >> think it's really sad. >> and i think it's really sad. this is a very private , personal this is a very private, personal moment you're having moment when you're having a baby, will it have green eyes, blue eyes? i have mixed race nieces and it always it's just a fun thing to talk about how how how they're going to look, whether they're going to look like the dad, whether they're going to look like mum. going to look like the mum. but home this to be something home in on this to be something massively it massively offensive. i think it was comedian chris was the american comedian chris rock really took to rock who really took them to task over this stood up on task over this and stood up on the and was like, black
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the stage and was like, black people it. people do it people do it. asian people do it like are curious, like we all are curious, selective outrage. yes, it is selective outrage. yes, it is selective outrage. yes, it is selective outrage , rage. and selective outrage, rage. and it's as a tool batter it's used as a tool to batter our monarchy a couple who our monarchy from a couple who are on a revenge fest. look let's let's not belittle the fact that there is racism that goes on. >> definitely genuine racism. but i think it belittles genuinely. absolutely. yes this is what i agree with, because i think that, like i said before, you know, some people become offended because they're allowed to become offended because they think it's kind of cool to be offended. but are they genuinely offended. but are they genuinely offended something's said offended if something's not said maliciously , how is it offensive maliciously, how is it offensive 7 maliciously, how is it offensive ? we come from a greek family. we always talk about our kids. you know, my mum always says , is you know, my mum always says, is your going to be dark , your child going to be dark, dark haired, skinned or is dark haired, dark skinned or is it going to be an english baby with beautiful blue eyes and light skin? it doesn't mean anything . a a anything. it's a it's a conversation that i think every family of most cultures around the world talk about. >> so guys , first of all, as >> so guys, first of all, as i understand it, the royal family
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have denied that this conversation has took place. so let's then talk hypothetically. okay. if we're talking about a family discussing the skin colour of a child to be an unborn infant, it is all about context . yeah. if you as the context. yeah. if you as the parent feel seriously uncomfortable about such a conversation and you think it is coming from a bad place, then thatis coming from a bad place, then that is obviously wrong . if it that is obviously wrong. if it is a different context and in the line of what you've just been saying, then that's totally fine. we have to know the facts, whether we'll ever know the facts or not remains to be seen. >> yeah, it is difficult, isn't it? i mean, we were talking about this. it we weren't in the room, were we? and we didn't hear the conversation. of hear the conversation. and of course, it ventures into course, if it ventures into something then something that's malicious, then that's different that's a totally different situation. are just situation. but if you are just cunous situation. but if you are just curious about what a baby may look there's no harm in that. >> can you really imagine king charles, so liberal and charles, who is so liberal and very aware of and sensitive grandchildren and the
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commonwealth connection the queen had , they just don't queen had, they just don't strike me as the kind of king charles who has spent his life apart from campaigning on the climate, which i think is crucial. >> i thought his speech yesterday was brilliant yesterday at cop was brilliant and statesmanlike with his greek tie , with his greek tie. he has tie, with his greek tie. he has also swathes of his also spent great swathes of his time trying to work for a better society, for underprivileged aged black kids in this country. he's done a huge amount with the prince's trust. i think we should remember that. yeah >> look, we haven't got long with wanted to ask with you, but i wanted to ask you these two labour mps with you, but i wanted to ask you are these two labour mps with you, but i wanted to ask you are calling two labour mps with you, but i wanted to ask you are calling on 0 labour mps with you, but i wanted to ask you are calling on therour mps with you, but i wanted to ask you are calling on the publicips with you, but i wanted to ask you are calling on the public to who are calling on the public to vote nigel farage out of i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. a story that keeps on giving. >> it is. >> it is. >> it is. >> it doesn't come as a shock whatsoever . this what whatsoever. this is what the left don't agree with left do. you don't agree with me. need to get you out far me. we need to get you out far more right. but i think more than the right. but i think it's great success story. it's a great success story. nigel is clearly upsetting the right people . i think they're right people. i think they're terrified that nigel is coming across very human, very across as very human, very charming, great team player, charming, a great team player, and many of his views well, most of his views that i know of
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nigel's views are very centrist , nigel's views are very centrist, very moderate, about very moderate, all about a country making its own laws and sustaining sustainable immigration and things that most countries around the world agree with. but the left have labelled it all far right? so he has to be monster and he's coming be this monster and he's coming across dear across as quite a dear, dear chap and they hate it. so they need to get rid of before he need to get rid of him before he starts connecting the people. >> nigel starts connecting the people. >> was nigel starts connecting the people. >> was with nigel starts connecting the people. >> was with himself,el starts connecting the people. >> was with himself, even farage was with himself, even describe views as moderate. describe his views as moderate. look, i've met him several times. he used to be presenters at the same station we got on. well, he's a difficult guy not to well with, but has to get on well with, but he has said very dangerous and said some very dangerous and some very divisive things. i'm not by and large, not a no platform by and large, but think important but i do think it's important that political figures that senior political figures and a very successful and he's been a very successful politician, never politician, although he's never become an mp, he's been a huge figure in this country. he needs to be held properly to account and scrutinised and just for example, i'd be very to go example, i'd be very happy to go on here on lbc and we'd on his show here on lbc and we'd have ding dong. have a right old ding dong. >> on gb news. >> we're on gb news. >> we're on gb news. >> yes, we are. but thank you for what i say? for that. what did i say? >> we were were exactly.
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>> because we were were exactly. >> because we were were exactly. >> just quickly say >> can i just quickly say because you need a little rebuttal there. the people on the left in the political the left and in the political class the left are much class on the left are so much more racist. oh, too more blatantly racist. oh, too many white faces, too many white people in authority, always going on colour, saying going on about colour, saying making look like a saint. making nigel look like a saint. there double standards there are double standards targeted people the right . targeted at people on the right. nigel is, i think, pretty all right well can we forget left right well can we forget left right and whatever can we just go down middle and know that go down the middle and know that he jose to shut up which he told jose to shut up which i always thought come on mate you know she's a was shocked. always thought come on mate you knowwas 's a was shocked. always thought come on mate you knowwas 's a wa athocked. always thought come on mate you knowwas 's a wa at that. d. >> i was shocked at that. >> i was shocked at that. >> it was obviously getting tired. take tired. but she was about to take stars away the group meals stars away from the group meals away with the blunder. she away with with the blunder. she didn't seem to take to heart. didn't seem to take it to heart. i really liked joseph, someone who's done a bit of celebrity tv yourself a natural at yourself and is a natural at this thing. this sort of thing. >> do you this >> how do you feel this this season gone ? season has gone? >> i it's good, but >> i think it's good, but i think once you've been it, think once you've been in it, you think season's better. >> yours was i would say i say that, but it's true . that, but it's true. >> no, it's good. what was it like to do? sorry. >> no, it's good. what was it likewhaty? sorry. >> no, it's good. what was it likewhat wasyrry. >> no, it's good. what was it likewhat was ity. >> no, it's good. what was it likewhat was it actually like to >> what was it actually like to do it's not an easy ride . you
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>> it's not an easy ride. you know, one of the things that's really clever about this show is they they starve you for the first four days. and what happens that that hunger happens is that that hunger starts to play on your mind. about day four, you start getting constipated. sorry you do . except forjohnny rotten. he do. except forjohnny rotten. he somehow wasn't another story. anyway let's forget about that. but anyway , it also it changes but anyway, it also it changes your mood. you start at the real your mood. you start at the real you starts to come out or a different you starts to come out. so they instead of plying with alcohol like some shows could do, you know, i'm not saying but like , you saying they do, but like, you know, and all know, big brother and all that where would drink and that where you would drink and that personality would come out being hungry was a very different personality and you start seeing people fight for people really fight for survival. that's why they do the trials because they're trials, because they're like, i'll anything ijust trials, because they're like, i'll anything i just want i'll do anything i just want some food. >> you learn about >> what did you learn about yourself, chef? >> good. >> oh, very good. >> oh, very good. >> well, i learned that, you know, had some terrible know, i've had some terrible hairstyles way written
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hairstyles along the way written , written some good songs, but written some rubbish ones as yourself in the way that you acted or behaved or the views that you espoused. yeah, well, because know, because obviously, you know, being there, one of the being in there, one of the things you learn is that you can actually, when need to fight actually, when you need to fight to it's to survive, you don't think it's that but i promise you it that harsh, but i promise you it is. honestly, you it. is. honestly, you can do it. >> it's so good to have your insight, absolutely insight, isn't it? absolutely fascinating. we could talk to you all morning, you about it all morning, honestly, matthew, belinda, it's been good to have you been really good to have you with thank you so much. with us. thank you so, so much. >> so coming up, we'll be >> okay. so coming up, we'll be delving elgin marbles delving into the elgin marbles debate statue. parthenon. >> you're on rafe >> you're on with rafe heydel—mankoo and tonia buxton, who i know. >> yeah, it's going to get fiery, isn't it? >> so you do not want to miss that. plus, we'll be answering all questions on the all of your questions on the week's keep on sending week's news, so keep on sending them in. hashtag this. hashtag ask say this >> i was going to say this morning, i moving on morning, but i was moving to on the next subject. morning, but i was moving to on the hashtagyject. morning, but i was moving to on the hashtag ask. hashtag >> hashtag ask pete or hashtag ask elianne. ask ask elianne. you can ask anything. doesn't mean we're anything. it doesn't mean we're going it but you going to answer it all, but you can ask. is can definitely ask. this is saturday morning on gb saturday morning live on gb news. with . us earlier
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mornings from 930 on, gb news. >> right . we're looking forward >> right. we're looking forward to this. i think it's going to get fiery. so let's get straight into it, shall we? this is the controversial elgin marbles or parthenon debate. we parthenon statues debate. we have to be very careful now with this week, rishi sunak was this this week, rishi sunak was accused of throwing a hissy fit over the elgin marbles.
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>> he was due to meet the greek pm kyriakos mitsotakis, at cop28 tonight. yeah, very , very good. tonight. yeah, very, very good. >> well, the historian broadcast rafe heydel—mankoo is here with us and the broadcaster tanya buxton. they're both on the studio. and rafe, you passionately believe, don't you, that the marbles belong in the british museum ? british museum? >> i do. i'm terribly sorry, but i should say i'm also part greek. my great grandfather, zygmunt mineyko , discovered the zygmunt mineyko, discovered the temple of zeus at dodona. and my cousin, the greek prime minister, george papandreou , who minister, george papandreou, who was one of the is one of the leading voices calling for their restitution. understand. restitution. so i understand. and i'm sympathetic to the and i'm very sympathetic to the greek cause, but it would set a terrible , dangerous precedent if terrible, dangerous precedent if we going to return the we were going to return the elgin marbles , you know, the elgin marbles, you know, the british museum and the louvre and the in new york are and the met in new york are unique , a unique group of unique, a unique group of institutions that what call institutions that what we call the museum . the world encyclopaedic museum. they're repositories for some of the world's finest treasures in order for us to place things like the elgin marbles or the or
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the benin bronzes in their wider global context . and that speaks global context. and that speaks to our shared humanity and it enables us to chart and compare our the, the ascent of man, essentially, and that's why i think it's also quite retrograde to think that we have to return objects to where they came from, as if you can only go to greece or cairo look egyptian or to cairo to look at egyptian or to cairo to look at egyptian or artefacts . you know, or greek artefacts. you know, most of the world will never go to to athens, whereas to cairo or to athens, whereas london, york london, paris and new york enables far larger portion of enables a far larger portion of the world to actually view these great items . great items. >> right. you are you messing with a honestly , tonya is just with a honestly, tonya is just about to let go. i'm just feel bnng about to let go. i'm just feel bring it on. >> bring it on. >> bring it on. >> you're setting a precedent for justice and for morality because let me set the example of why . of why. >> why the parthenon marbles are where they are. they were stolen . greece was under ottoman occupation at the time. and then the british. there was no, no, no, no, no, no, no. i did not interrupt you. your charming man that you are. i will have i just
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wanted to let it out. there greece was under ottoman occupation in an occupied country. let me give you a little example of where it sits in. imagine that when france, in. so imagine that when france, paris was under nazi occupation, the nazis before the americans came into the war, decided to sell the top of the eiffel tower . not all the eiffel tower, just the top of the eiffel tower. to the top of the eiffel tower. to the americans and the americans tookit the americans and the americans took it and they put it next to the statue liberty. would the statue of liberty. would that would that be acceptable? would anybody agree with that? >> well , that? >> well, modern that? >> well , modern greece that? >> well, modern greece is a 19th century creation. no, no, no. >> this whole thing you >> this whole thing about you changing we changing the first thing we need, write. need, i read and write. >> i read write greek and >> i read and write greek and i read and i can because i've learned modern greek. i can read ancient greek. some of the languages try languages change, but don't try to make the ancient greeks and the modern two different the modern greeks two different things wrong. so my point is completely wrong. so my point is to continue my argument on this one were stolen, one is they were stolen, they were and the british were stolen. and the british government acted like handlers in stolen goods. this in stolen goods. so this morality story, this story is so wrong on so many levels. and the
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main thing is the main thing is, is that they are part of a sequence. they are a frieze. there is 192 soldiers of marathon depicts on the friezes on the marbles. so you're separating. it's like cutting your family portrait in half and putting half here and half there. there is no morality to this, apart from what the british museum says. no, they're imperialistic. british museum says. no, they're imperialistic . attitude is we've imperialistic. attitude is we've got it. so everybody can come and see. >> it's not an imperialistic attitude much as was attitude very much as i was saying i interrupted. saying before i was interrupted. modern didn't in modern greece didn't exist in the 19th century. they were purchased mandate the purchased from mandate from the sultan and you have to remember the half of marbles were the half of the marbles were already destroyed when the british if lord british arrived. if lord elgin hadnt british arrived. if lord elgin hadn't the world, hadn't saved them for the world, they probably wouldn't exist. no, they probably wouldn't exist. n0, , they probably wouldn't exist. no, , i didn't interrupt no, actually, i didn't interrupt you, did thank so much. you, did i? thank you so much. so it was thanks to britain bringing them over back to the uk that they were saved, actually. and it was britain that made the elgin marbles into the globally recognised artefacts . rubbish that they artefacts. rubbish that they are. that's absolutely true . are. that's absolutely true. >> rubbish. are. that's absolutely true. >> they'ubbish. are. that's absolutely true. >> they were .h. are. that's absolutely true. >> they were beautiful . >> they were beautiful.
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>> they were beautiful. >> i please at least have more than a point. than 30s to develop a point. that would lovely. thank you that would be lovely. thank you so that's very kind. so much. that's very kind. and it the that they were it was the fact that they were brought the british museum brought to the british museum that world that enabled the educated world from germany , from france, from from germany, from france, from from germany, from france, from and britain to from italy and britain to actually celebrate these and rediscover and redefine the greek civilisation. this is rubbish for the world. >> bear in mind. >> bear in mind. >> no, no, i can't honestly , because. >> well, you have to accept it because it's facts. >> it's not. >> it's not. >> it's not. >> it's a rubbish point. oh, no, the world would not civilisation. >> the rediscovered by the british french. british and the french. for heaven's sake. i mean greeks weren't ones we in greek weren't the ones we in greek civilisation british culture is because of the democratic system in athens. >> that happened during the periclean time. but the ancient greeks and the modern greeks are worlds apart. >> modern greeks are not worldly , discovering how rude, how disgusting to say that. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> my great grandfather was discovering greek temples in. i do understand a bit of this. >> you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> i >> talking about i am a classical history scholar as well, so i understand much of
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it. >> well, then you know the role that role that britain played, the role discovering civilisation. discovering greek civilisation. >> allowed to >> thomas bruce was allowed to go to the marbles and to take sketches and maybe take some of the marbles that had been crushed because crushed down because the venetians bomb in and venetians threw a bomb in and some of the marbles had broken. but allowed his but he didn't. he allowed his henchman lusieri to actually hack off marbles from the phrases. it's written down that even lusieri stated , oh, we had even lusieri stated, oh, we had to be quite barbarous . they to be quite barbarous. they stole them, they hacked them off. they saved the british museum. did not look after the british, saved them in the 1930. they washing the marbles they were washing the marbles with brushes . with bleach and wire brushes. >> exist today >> they wouldn't exist today were not the that were it not for the fact that they safely secured within they are safely secured within they are safely secured within the museum . and there's the british museum. and there's a danger and there's a dangerous precedent that's being set here in era when we've had our in this era when we've had our institution the institution is captured by the woke ideology of decolonisation. you can just see how we would have our museums stripped if we let museum curators. actually, greece all of these greece has promised all of these beautiful artefacts for you to display in the british museum. well, that's like us giving an
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argument of the great argument is one of the great arguments imagine your arguments is that imagine your house on and lend house is on fire and you lend your neighbour your paintings. >> please look >> you say, please can you look after because my after my paintings because my house fire. the ottomans house is on fire. the ottomans were ruining the parthenon marbles. then three years marbles. and then three years later you get your house fixed and say, please, can have and you say, please, can i have my and they say, and you say, please, can i have my you and they say, and you say, please, can i have my you can't and they say, and you say, please, can i have my you can't have and they say, and you say, please, can i have my you can't have and tthat'sy, no, you can't have them. that's what did. no, you can't have them. that's wh.the did. no, you can't have them. that's wh.the wholeid. no, you can't have them. that's wh.the whole argument is argument. >> i'm afraid we are out of time. you much, though . time. thank you so much, though. fiery debate. they stolen fiery debate. were they stolen or were they saved? yes you're going to have an opinion on that at home. gb views that gb news. >> have question. no, >> i have a question. oh, no, sorry. late . i told sorry. it's too late. i told you, though, i'm very interested to get your view this as to get your view on this as well, andre is, well, because peter andre is, of course, so going to course, greek, so we're going to get his opinion the news get his opinion after the news and be waiting to hear and i'll be waiting to hear it outside. and i'll be waiting to hear it outsidecareful there . yeah, right. >> let's go to aaron with the . news >> it's 1133. news >> it's1133. i'm news >> it's 1133. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. glasgow airport has reopened its runway after flights were suspended following snow . snow suspended following snow. snow that was heavier than forecast
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as temperatures dropped to as low as minus ten overnight. some yellow warnings are still in place for snow and ice across many parts of the uk. some sports events have been cancelled. fa cup game scottish league too. and also the league matches too. and also the racing at newcastle . a week of racing at newcastle. a week of travel disruptions began as train drivers continue to strike over pay. no east midlands trains are running today. there's a limited service between london and scotland on lner. between london and scotland on lner . separately, an overtime lner. separately, an overtime ban across all services in england until next weekend will cause further chaos . an 84 year cause further chaos. an 84 year old man has died following a huge house explosion in edinburgh . the blast, which edinburgh. the blast, which happenedin edinburgh. the blast, which happened in the babatan area last night, was heard from several miles away. a 43 year old woman and a 54 year old man have been taken to hospital and some neighbouring properties were also evacuated. evacuated as precautionary measure. as a precautionary measure. police say there are no suspicious circumstances and
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bons suspicious circumstances and boris johnson's expected to apologise and admit he made mistakes during the pandemic when he appears before the covid inquiry next week. the former prime minister will argue, however, that his government got the decisions at the the big decisions right at the time . is the big decisions right at the time. is claiming will say he time. is claiming he will say he helped save tens, if not hundreds of thousands of lives by preventing the nhs from being overwhelmed. some of his senior staff have already given evidence and they've criticised his indecision poor his indecision and poor leadership . we'll be back with leadership. we'll be back with more. in just under half an hours more. in just under half an hour's time or there's more now on our website. gbnews.com . on our website. gbnews.com. >> thanks so much, aaron. and now pete, we have to ask you about elgin marbles parthenon statues. tanya i can see her looking at me from across from across the studio. you are, of course, greek . how do you feel course, greek. how do you feel about this, pete? >> peter, look at tanya, the way she's. >> guys, can you. >> tanya is watching, please, now? >> well, look, here's the thing.
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so i obviously did a bit of research because i wanted to know what's going so know what's going on here. so obviously, he lord elgin obviously, he claimed lord elgin claimed bought these claimed that he had bought these . okay. he had claimed. >> did he buy them, peter? >> whom did he buy them, peter? >> whom did he buy them, peter? >> i'm get that. >> no, i'm going to get to that. he all this. i'm he had claimed all of this. i'm i'm your side at the moment. i'm on your side at the moment. he he had bought he claimed that he had bought them had claimed that them and he had claimed that he'd been given permission, etcetera, etcetera. the etcetera, etcetera. now, the problem is, of course, that there's evidence that. oh there's no evidence of that. oh sorry, i will say actually what is fantastic about this whole acquisition was that when lord elgin brought the marbles to britain , he sold the britain, he sold them to the british government be placed britain, he sold them to the brthe government be placed britain, he sold them to the brthe g buying stolen >> you're buying stolen goods and it to the house of and they took it to the house of commons. they're buying stolen
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goods. government goods. the british government bought taken bought stolen goods, sold taken by the money, went to the by bought the money, went to the thief. that's what happened to the saviour. >> it did not go. >> it did not go. >> thief is another man's >> the thief is another man's saviour. >> it did go to kyrees. saviour. >> it went go to kyrees. saviour. >> it went to go to kyrees. saviour. >> it went to theo kyrees. saviour. >> it went to the ottomans and therefore debated it in the therefore they debated it in the house commons in order to try house of commons in order to try and it a legal thing when and make it a legal thing when they doing wrong. they knew they were doing wrong. but wrong. but it was wrong. >> there's point >> but there's another point here was saying, that here that tanya was saying, that there's osborne's there's now george osborne's trying to arrange sort trying to arrange this sort of long scheme, know, long term loan scheme, you know, but idea we'll but we have no idea if we'll ever back once ever get the marbles back once we've to greece. we've given them to greece. possession is 9/10 of the law. and idea what and also we have no idea what we're going be receiving in we're going to be receiving in exchange. give someone my exchange. if i give someone my 1926 rolls—royce 1926 phantom rolls—royce and i get ford, cortina, get back in 1982, ford, cortina, i'm to be very happy i'm not going to be very happy if at end of the day, they if at the end of the day, they refuse my rolls—royce. >> those marbles belong in their home. belong they home. they belong by. so they were in marble was were they are in marble was taken was made actually were they are in marble was takerthe was made actually were they are in marble was takerthe penteliciade actually were they are in marble was takerthe pentelic mountainlly were they are in marble was takerthe pentelic mountain ,y from the pentelic mountain, which is five miles away. so it's in the site. they need to sit in their home. they need to be as a full story. they be seen as a full story. they belong to greece and greece. actually in my opinion, can give
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whatever it likes back to the british museum. but let tell british museum. but let me tell you, the greeks and kyriakos mitsotakis are beautiful gentlemen, and they will do things nicely , unlike our prime things nicely, unlike our prime minister, who threw his little rattle out of the pram and wouldn't even meet him to discuss this. >> i think that was shameful. i think i think rishi sunak wants to create a culture war over the elgin marbles in order to win the election. think he's lost the election. i think he's lost his quite frankly. the election. i think he's lost his well, quite frankly. the election. i think he's lost his well, we're|ite frankly. the election. i think he's lost his well, we're|ite franon. >> well, we're agreed on that one. one. >> g. fl w... g we're an agreed >> there we go. we're an agreed on one. on that one. >> there are points. you >> and there are points. you know, main point me is i know, the main point for me is i love you said about the love what you said about the eiffel tower. same with eiffel tower. it's same with stonehenge. you some stonehenge. if you took some of those you know, stonehenge. if you took some of thosewant you know, stonehenge. if you took some of thosewant them you know, stonehenge. if you took some of thosewant them back. you know, we'd want them back. >> i don't know whether we would want back, i've thought want them back, but i've thought about want them back, but i've thought abothey're parthenon >> they're the parthenon is still course, you still there. and, of course, you talk about the museums here and still there. and, of course, you talk it's ut the museums here and still there. and, of course, you talk it's great museums here and still there. and, of course, you talk it's great foszeums here and still there. and, of course, you talk it's great for the ms here and still there. and, of course, you talk it's great for the people; and how it's great for the people here don't get to here and people who don't get to go greece, but they've also go to greece, but they've also got museums there. go to greece, but they've also got and .eums there. go to greece, but they've also got and the|s there. go to greece, but they've also got and the acropolis is >> and the acropolis museum is beautiful. they've rebuilt it and gaps and and they've left the gaps and it's sculptures. and they've left the gaps and it's these sculptures. and they've left the gaps and it's these sculare'es. and they've left the gaps and it's these sculare part world >> these items are part of world heritage. all right? they've gone the athenian gone beyond the athenian state and are of western
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and these are part of western civilisation. an world civilisation. this is an world heritage argument. and what's what's i find interesting is most people are calling most of the people are calling for this the left. know for this are on the left. i know you're it's purely you're not, but it's a purely nationalistic the nationalistic argument for the left usually left who are usually internationalist . and this internationalist. and this is this museum be this british museum should be called this british museum should be call> cities in the world give to the museum lots the british museum lots of beautiful artefacts . half of the beautiful artefacts. half of the beauty world from beauty of the world came from greece, you know, we know that. so many structures, so many temples, so many there is so many artefacts that the greeks are very happy to give to are very, very happy to give to the british museum. and what they do is and this they should do is and this wonderful argument that the amazing fry gave was amazing stephen fry gave was wouldn't it be lovely if the british returned the parthenon marbles and then they could make they could make moulds and have them there and actually have them up there and actually have a of they cast these a film of how they cast these marbles. and are now. marbles. and here they are now. we looked after them for 200 years and return them
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years and then return them to their moulds could go to greece >> the moulds could go to greece because of course. >> no, because there's a reason. >> no, because there's a reason. >> reason that >> there's a reason that parliament 1963. the parliament passed in 1963. the british which british museum act, which forbids museum hold on to forbids the museum to hold on to anything things down because. >> hold on to the world, because these encyclopaedic museums. >> do you think the >> why do you think that the president italy in 2008 president of italy in 2008 returned back the marbles because they've got enough of their got enough of their own already thomas bruce lord elgin left some of the marbles in italy, 2008, the italian italy, and in 2008, the italian president knew that right president knew that the right thing to do was to return these marbles the acropolis where marbles to the acropolis where they belong . so did the right they belong. so he did the right thing. the british government are acting a lutenist, are acting in a lutenist, imperialistic, way, and imperialistic, arrogant way, and this is something that we don't want part our character as want as part of our character as british let's be seen to british people. let's be seen to be great. british people. let's be seen to be speak everybody. you >> speak for everybody. when you say speaking me say we, you're speaking for me as well. >> for look, look, i'm very sympathetic to the greek cause i've told you that. >> but as i've said, the precedent that would be set would open the floodgates for all spurious. all sorts of spurious. >> thank you so much. i'm >> yeah. thank you so much. i'm afraid going have to afraid we're going to have to leave but thank you leave it there. but thank you
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for two. then john. for round two. then john. >> can we just get along? for round two. then john. >> yeah,'e just get along? for round two. then john. >> yeah, but just get along? for round two. then john. >> yeah, but we st get along? for round two. then john. >> yeah, but we do jet along? for round two. then john. >> yeah, but we do jet (along . >> yeah, but we do get along. >> yeah, but we do get along. >> do. >> we do. we do. >> we do. we do. >> one only disagreement that we have. >> it's true. you did it just as we like it, which is fiery, which we like, but also very polite. which we like, but also very polthank much for that >> thank you so much for that debate you'll have debate there. you'll have an opinion that at home, won't opinion on that at home, won't you? vaiews@gbnews.com. so do keep right now it's keep those coming right now it's time for weekly dose time for your weekly dose of showbiz time for your weekly dose of sthesz time for your weekly dose of sthes , have a breather. >> yes, have a breather. >> yes, have a breather. >> and we're delighted to have our showbiz journalist and our friend stephanie takyi here with us. hi, stephanie. >> how are you? afternoon euanne >> how are you? afternoon elianne pete. really good. congratulations. oh, thank you so much. >> look, we've had a really sad story this week, haven't we? the loss of shane macgowan. i mean, what a legend. >> and it's such a auspicious time. christmas. you time. just before christmas. you know, fairytale of new york is one of those tracks we will hean one of those tracks we will hear. so many times during christmas. it was released 35 years ago and it still feels as poignant. still as refreshing as it did when it was released in 1988. and it's quite sad because he had just been released from
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hospital. he was determined to spend christmas at home. his birthday was actually on christmas before christmas as well. so all sad timing . well. so it's all sad timing. but now music fans in their numbers are hoping that it will get back to number one. and i think it will. and i think the beauty of that track, he's he's known other course known for other tracks of course with that track with the pogues but that track in particular it's an anti festive it's about hard festive song. it's about hard times, broken dreams and i think thatis times, broken dreams and i think that is the other side to christmas, which people can relate to and but just worldwide people love that song and there's been many tributes. there's been so many tributes. and sinn fein president, she and the sinn fein president, she called him a unique poet who told the irish story in a special way . special way. >> oh, do you think it will make christmas number one? because i can't i can't believe it's never been number one before. it's only got high number two. only got as high as number two. >> believe well, >> i can't believe that as well, because such classic because it's such a classic song. it will. you song. but i think it will. you always when an artist dies always find when an artist dies or musician people start or a musician dies, people start playing again. and playing their music again. and now got digital now that we've got digital streams, will be streams, people will be streaming non and streaming it non stop. and i won't be surprised people won't be surprised if people actually still find
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actually do want to still find some of the physical copies of that just. that because it's just. >> remember when the >> yeah, i remember when the legend. i'm sorry to interrupt. >> remember when the >> yeah. no i remember when the legend, passed >> yeah. no i remember when the legend, christmas passed >> yeah. no i remember when the legend, christmas time, passed >> yeah. no i remember when the legend, christmas time, and ed >> yeah. no i remember when the legend, christmas time, and iti away at christmas time, and it was. >> it was so poignant. yeah yeah. because you did go to number one. >> you were so associate those music with the christmas period . music with the christmas period. so well, it would be so it's quite. well, it would be really nice and really fitting for the pogues christmas for the pogues to be christmas number year. number one this year. >> can't say too much >> but we can't say too much because have another because we do have another option, got option, don't we? we've got lovely tom ball on the show at the end of our show and the end of our show today and he's for christmas, he's also going for christmas, number to number one. we'll have to ask him he thinks that. him what he thinks about that. look whilst got look stephanie, whilst we've got you, to ask you about you, i wanted to ask you about cynthia nixon because been cynthia nixon because she's been on strike. cynthia nixon because she's been on she strike. cynthia nixon because she's been on she hastrike. cynthia nixon because she's been on she has been she's >> she has been usually she's known glamour and sex known for the glamour and sex and as miranda and the city as miranda hobbes. but she's also got a political background she once but she's also got a political backgto und she once but she's also got a political backgto become she once but she's also got a political backgto become the she once but she's also got a political backgto become the governor of tried to become the governor of new york. but this week, she's been on a five day hunger strike because she wants joe biden to put a ceasefire towards hamas and israel. she's saying it's not normal what's going on. and everyone needs to make their
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statement. i do think it's quite a way she's trying to do a deadly way she's trying to do it because if you think about it, joe biden only has so much power with what's going on with this but she's saying this war, but she's saying it's not normal to be not normal for this to be happening. she's joined five happening. so she's joined five other who've been other politicians who've been stood at the house on stood up at the white house on hunger strike. >> it does seem quite extreme. >> it does seem quite extreme. >> does . and i think, you >> it does. and i think, you know, celebrities always want to make celebrities, make their point. celebrities, people always think, oh, celebrities politics don't celebrities and politics don't mix. they do mix. but i think with influential with someone who's influential like her, i don't know if this is a way about it. is a good way to go about it. protest you must, but hunger , protest if you must, but hunger, it's a bit too much. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> stephanie takyi, really good to see you. and i love this dress. you look so festive and christmassy. >> i couldn't wait to bring out all the christmas outfits out. >> you look wonderful . >> oh, you look wonderful. >> oh, you look wonderful. >> starting next week. >> you're starting next week. >> you're starting next week. >> next. yeah, >> you're starting next week. >> forward next. yeah, >> you're starting next week. >> forward to next. yeah, >> you're starting next week. >> forward to it.1ext. yeah, >> you're starting next week. >> forward to it. now,(eah, >> you're starting next week. >> forward to it. now, do 1, >> you're starting next week. >> forward to it. now, do you look forward to it. now, do you stay with us because up next, we'll meeting the artist tom we'll be meeting the artist tom ball, just been ball, who we've just been telling about to hear all telling you about to hear all about christmas single. about his new christmas single. >> want to
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channel channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. well come back to saturday morning live . morning live. >> pete is having a mint. really really good to have you with us this morning. really good to have you with us this morning . thank you so much this morning. thank you so much for all your emails as well. so many of you getting touch many of you getting in touch this morning, alexander says. we've about we've been talking about christmas. you can see the wonderful gb news christmas tree just behind pete there. we've actually baubles, actually got union jack baubles, which touch. which are a really lovely touch. we're when do you put up we're asking when do you put up your christmas tree? we
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your christmas tree? because we haven't yet either your christmas tree? because we ha ourt yet either your christmas tree? because we ha our houses, yet either your christmas tree? because we ha our houses, but yet either your christmas tree? because we haour houses, but lots either your christmas tree? because we ha our houses, but lots of either your christmas tree? because we ha our houses, but lots of yomer of our houses, but lots of you have not alexander though alexander says, in opinion , alexander says, in my opinion, christmas does not start on the first of december. it's too first week of december. it's too soon. now , according to soon. even now, according to alexander, although chris did sort of summer went into winter really quickly this year. >> so it's almost feels like you know, christmas has come a lot earlier. >> yeah. and feels >> yeah. and it feels very festive doesn't i mean festive now, doesn't it? i mean all feels very frosty, all it feels very frosty, doesn't it? >> this morning now >> especially this morning now mary my partner is mary says, because my partner is not christmas, don't put not into christmas, i don't put the up until day not into christmas, i don't put the his up until day not into christmas, i don't put the his birthday.y until day not into christmas, i don't put the his birthday. s01til day not into christmas, i don't put the his birthday. so next day after his birthday. so next weekend the trees will be put up. oh that's a really nice way of doing it. >> i think i'm going to try and do mine this weekend. that's the plan. >> yeah. keep writing in because plan. >> lover. keep writing in because plan. >> love this. p writing in because plan. >> love this. we riting in because plan. >> love this. we lovei in because plan. >> love this. we love hearing use what? >> yeah, it's our favourite thing. yeah. and nicola has just got saying, think thing. yeah. and nicola has just got tale saying, think thing. yeah. and nicola has just got tale newig, think thing. yeah. and nicola has just got tale new york:hink thing. yeah. and nicola has just got tale new york should be fairy tale of new york should be christmas number one this year. it's song would it's an amazing song and would be to both be a perfect tribute to both singers. course, after the singers. of course, after the very sad loss of shane macgowan this week, do keep your views coming and nicola, your email coming in and nicola, your email leads us nicely into our
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leads us very nicely into our final guest of the morning who is songwriter tom ball , is singer songwriter tom ball, who has his eyes set on a christmas number one as well. >> yeah, tom ball will be familiar to many for his appearances on britain's got talent. now he's back with his christmas single, winter song, a great song. let's have a listen. they're singing winter song on the set . the set. >> celebration for all seasonal . >> celebration for all seasonal. on singing like they always knew their wishes will come true , their wishes will come true, too. they sing out loud and strong song they're singing from their heart songs for all the children here, a worlds apart , children here, a worlds apart, heart with their faces . heart with their faces. >> tom, you have the most incredible voice that is a beautiful song. >> thank you very, very much. yeah, it's an incredible song.
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i'm so very honoured to be able to sing it. obviously written by gary barlow and eliot kennedy. >> oh, wow. absolutely incredible . well. oh, they are incredible. well. oh, they are absolute geniuses , amazing absolute geniuses, amazing people. and a christmas song is a great one, isn't it? because it could come out every single yeah it could come out every single year. it become a classic. >> that's the hope. absolutely >> that's the hope. absolutely >> i love the fact of the video being the way it is. so it's, you know, it just sort of it just brings the whole feeling together of christmas childhood nostalgia . nostalgia. >> did you get a say in that? >> did you get a say in that? >> oh, absolutely. of course. well, for me, when i first heard the song, i was in eliot studio and it he played it to me and it just brought back all the memories of christmas, you know, the anticipate of wintertime with family. and that's what i value in christmas. so the music video had to had to reflect that. >> oh it's absolutely a beautiful song. and you are hoping for a christmas number one, aren't you? >> well, who knows? but hopefully, hopefully. >> and how would you feel then?
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because there is, of course, we've had the very sad passing this macgowan, his this week of shane macgowan, his wife would really like, of course , fairytale of new york to course, fairytale of new york to be christmas number one. now, how do you feel about that in the that you're going the year that you're going for it you it. >> you deserve it. >> you deserve it. >> it's beautiful song. an >> oh, it's a beautiful song. an incredible song . you know, i. i incredible song. you know, i. i would be happy with anything . if would be happy with anything. if you want to listen to the record, listen to the record, but definitely go , go listen to but definitely go, go listen to fairytale of new york. >> if by any chance it got to number two, would you be happy because fact that it's because of the fact that it's there's behind why it there's a story behind why it didn't number one? oh, didn't go to number one? oh, absolutely. easily absolutely. it could easily go to number as well. your record. >> we will have to wait and see. but i will be ecstatic with number two. >> well, it's very , very good of >> well, it's very, very good of you. look, you've got a really packed schedule next year . packed schedule next year. you've got really busy 20, 24 coming up. tell us a bit more about that. >> it's a exciting >> oh, it's a super exciting yeah >> oh, it's a super exciting year. going tour my own year. i'm going on tour my own uk tour, 14 dates starting in march . thank you very much, pete march. thank you very much, pete . i'll have to get some tips
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from you at some point about tour life because i'll be getting after next getting tips off you after next year i've also got my year. and then i've also got my own debut album called curtain call, releasing on the in march 29th. oh, massive . 29th. oh, massive. >> congratulations. thank you. brilliant. and tell us a bit about that album then. what was that you ? that whole process like for you? >> always been a >> it was. it's always been a dream of mine to release an album. um, you know, back when i was started singing, when was was started singing, when i was eight wanted to eight years old, i wanted to create music and the process of recording has been an absolute dream. i'm getting to sing songs i love and original material as well, which is really nice . well, which is really nice. >> i wanted to ask you, so obviously times have changed in the music industry where it used to all hard copy vinyl, cd to all be hard copy vinyl, cd are you any cd and vinyl are you doing any cd and vinyl versions? this 100. >> they're actually on pre—sale right now. the cds are signed. copy that was going to say because then you can go and do signings and absolutely you can pre—order those now and they'll release on the 29th march. release on the 29th of march. and is also to release and my hope is also to release on vinyl. i'm a big fan of vinyl
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myself. collect myself. i collect it, so it would be nice to have my own. we may have some people there may have some people out there that going to say, what is v' |nyl? vinyl? >> young gun-- gun-— generation. >> but the big discs that spin, we're to ask both of you we're going to ask both of you because you're both singer songwriters in studio with because you're both singer son today. s in studio with me today. >> is the best part of the >> what is the best part of the process? is it being in the studio? is it seeing that final, final production? the final song or hearing the music, listening to the fans? what is it? i'd say meeting, meeting the fans after a show you come off stage, you're feeling on top of the world, and then you you go out the house, the front, or you go to stage door and you get to meet some incredible people, incredible . incredible. >> and guess performing >> and pete, i guess performing them obviously them live, obviously meeting people incredible . people is incredible. >> but performing the song live, you you do it in an you know, you do it in an enclosed space and then you hear it atmosphere of a it with all the atmosphere of a crowd. it's a beautiful the best you're to you're to you're going to you're going to have on have a great time on tour. >> tomball fans to have >> tomball fans tastic to have you us. good luck with you with us. good luck with christmas one. thank christmas number one. and thank you company.
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