gb news. well. hello and welcome to gb news sunday. >> thank you forjoining us this >> thank you for joining us this lunchtime. i'm dawn neesom for the next two hours. count them. i'll be keeping you company on tv online and on digital radio. coming up this afternoon. cracking show for you . a man has cracking show for you. a man has died and two people have been injured after a knife and hammer attacks in central paris. it happened as tourists gathered near the eiffel tower last night . okay. awful news. bereaved israel and palestine families are marching together as part of an anti hate vigil outside downing street today. relatives who have lost loved ones in the conflict between israel and palestine warn that their bereavement cannot be used to promote hatred. i love this story. it's such a heartwarming

one. and there is a risk of snow andice one. and there is a risk of snow and ice across scotland , down and ice across scotland, down the eastern coast of england from newcastle upon tyne to below london, schools and businesses are being forced to close in the coming days, but do get in touch. this is all about you. your thoughts? so let me know what you're thinking today . know what you're thinking today. getting close to christmas, isn't it? so send us your thoughts. gb views gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials. we're at gb news. it's very simple. but first, let's have a look at those headlines with aaron armstrong . with aaron arm strong. >> with aaron armstrong. >> it's a minute past one. good afternoon to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. thousands of people in cumbria could be without power until tonight after heavy until late tonight after heavy snow. north—west snow. electricity, north—west says teams are struggling to reach sections of the damaged network around 2500 customers are affected . emergency services are affected. emergency services have also been working to help

people trapped in their cars as a large number of vehicles were abandoned on the m6 overnight. weather warnings for snow and ice remained for many ice remained in place for many parts the uk. a senior parts of the uk. a senior meteorologist, jim dale, says the conditions over the the milder conditions over the coming could lead to floods i >> -- >> he will lam >> he will tell you that area saw about a foot of snow levels. know that now that if you melt that snow, which is what meteorologists do, it equates to aninch meteorologists do, it equates to an inch tomorrow we got another system coming in, another system which has got low pressure attached to it's quite a tight, tight thing. so there'll be wind, weight rain wind, but also heavy weight rain as all that snow down as well. now, all that snow down and not just monday, but on wednesday as well. quite heavyweight rain. so all this snow and the rain attached to it that's coming . i think we might that's coming. i think we might be looking at floods in midweek. >> a man's been killed >> again, a man's been killed and two people, including a british tourist, were injured in a knife and hammer attack in paris. it happened near the eiffel tower last night in what the has the french president has described terrorist attack . described as a terrorist attack. officials confirmed the man officials have confirmed the man who german tourist, a

who died was a german tourist, a 26 year old french national known to security services has been arrested . suspect been arrested. the suspect reportedly police he was reportedly told police he was upset about muslims dying in gaza and afghanistan . an extra gaza and afghanistan. an extra £15 million will reportedly given to rwanda to take migrants who arrive in the uk illegally. that's on top of the £140 million already received . the million already received. the sunday times says the additional funds aim to secure a treaty so the east african country also takes asylum seekers who crossed the channel in small boats. 519 people were intercepted yesterday , bringing this year's yesterday, bringing this year's total to just over 29,000. it's understood the foreign secretary, james cleverly will fly to kigali in the coming days to seal the new deal. fly to kigali in the coming days to seal the new deal . the fly to kigali in the coming days to seal the new deal. the uk will carry out surveillance flights over the middle east to find hostages held by hamas. more than 130 people are still being held captive in gaza, where fighting has resumed following a week long truce. the minister of defence says the unarmed flights will not have a combat role . meanwhile, israel

combat role. meanwhile, israel continues to carry out intense airstrikes in southern gaza . the airstrikes in southern gaza. the hamas run health ministry says seven palestinians were killed and several others injured dunng and several others injured during a raid on rafah city. the us is calling on israel to avoid further harm to civilians in its fight against hamas. further harm to civilians in its fight against hamas . the uk will fight against hamas. the uk will give £100 million to vulnerable countries most affected by climate change. it will provide nafions climate change. it will provide nations with early warning systems for extreme weather and will help tackle food and water shortages and a rise in infectious diseases . the infectious diseases. the government says global warming pushes 26 million people into poverty every year. international development minister andrew mitchell will announce the plans at the cop 28 climate summit in dubai later , climate summit in dubai later, liz truss is set to propose a law banning biological males from single—sex spaces. the former prime minister is also looking to prevent children from attempting to change their genden attempting to change their gender. the bill would also ban transgender women from accessing female toilets and changing rooms . it's female toilets and changing rooms. it's due to be female toilets and changing rooms . it's due to be presented rooms. it's due to be presented to the commons on wednesday and

there's ongoing travel disruption as train drivers stage another day of strikes . stage another day of strikes. aslef union members have launched a series of walkouts in a dispute over pay great northern thameslink and avanti west coast trains have been cancelled and chiltern railways and west midlands railway services are also affected . services are also affected. well, this is gb news on tv, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker too. that's it for the moment . now it's back to dawn . moment. now it's back to dawn. thank you very much, aaron. >> right. okay happy sunday afternoon. it's christmas day in three weeks time on monday. and i know you're not ready, but if you are struggling with your tree, just put us on the radio. you haven't got to sit down and put us on the radio or have us on in the background right. okay. but let's get straight into today's topics. it's not all ball balls okay all talking ball balls now. okay horrible coming in from horrible news coming in from paris . something you paris overnight. something you really didn't want to happen

again. i mean, it happens a lot in france and it's terribly sad . in france and it's terribly sad. a man has died and two people, including a british man, have been injured after a knife and hammer attacks in central paris. it happened as tourists gathered near the eiffel tower last night . 26 year old french national known to security service has been arrested . the suspect is been arrested. the suspect is reportedly told police he was upset about muslims dying in gaza and afghanistan. now now to bnng gaza and afghanistan. now now to bring us up to speed on what has happened and our and find out more about this, frankly, utterly sad and depressing story. is gb news political correspondent olivia utley . correspondent olivia utley. olivia, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. can you bring us up to speed on what has happened overnight in in pans? >> well, as you say, dawn, it's a really distressing story. a man who was known to the french authorities has attacked three people in central paris near the

eiffel tower, killing one of them. we know him . he was them. we know him. he was a german tourist and injuring two others, including a british national. the man in question who is now in police custody had beenin who is now in police custody had been in prison for four years for a previous terror offence and had quite recently been released. he was known as the french authorities. he had mental health problems. that's what the equivalent of the french home secretary, gerald darmanin has has told us already and he was on the watch list for terror suspects when he attacked these three people. he shouted these three people. he shouted the words, allah akbar, known to mean god is good, which we've heard before in european attacks . terrorists often shout that out just before they attack . out just before they attack. emmanuel macron has said that the terror police will now be looking into this properly and getting an answer for the people of france as to why this was allowed to happen. it's obviously a really big failure

on the part of the security services, the prison services, the people who are in charge of keeping france safe, because this was not an unexpected attack from someone who couldn't possibly have been detained or stopped. this was someone who was on the list. he was in prison. he was recently released. so why was this allowed to happen? >> and obviously , this is a time >> and obviously, this is a time of year where many of us travel to france for a festive treat. go and see the eiffel tower, etcetera. do we know anything about the level of threat in paris at the moment? have they uppedit paris at the moment? have they upped it ? i paris at the moment? have they upped it? i mean, what is the what is the advice about, you know, going to paris for that festive treat at the moment ? festive treat at the moment? >> well, at the moment, the home office here, the foreign office here haven't issued any guidance suggesting that people don't travel terror travel to france. the terror threat remains as it is in france. the terror threat in france. the terror threat in france is high pretty much at all times as we don't yet have any more information apart from

the le monde is now reporting the le monde is now reporting the major newspaper in france is now reporting that the authorities are looking into a potential terror plot behind this attack. so it is possible. possible. i'm only saying that that this was more than than a lone wolf attack . but at the lone wolf attack. but at the moment, no, there is no guidance to stay away from france or anything like that. >> it's incredibly sad. and we don't have any update on the i understand now still in hospital, but the brit, i think it is a brit. is it confirmed that it's been a british man that's been injured. >> it's confirmed that it's british man. the two the two other people who were injured are not in a life threatening situation. it was one man who died, german touring that his died, a german touring that his wife was also attacked and her life was saved by a passing taxi driver who then gave evidence to the police, saying that the suspect in question fled. he was then caught out and is now in custody. that's all the information we have so far about the victims . the victims. >> brilliant. thank you very

much, olivia , for bringing us up much, olivia, for bringing us up to date on that , frankly to date on that, frankly horrific story. it's not the news you want to wake up to on a sunday morning. now let's see what my panel make of this today. i'm joined today by leader of the heritage party and co—founder of novara media are on bastani and an and we didn't actually say david carson that was terribly mean that that's that's so we've started off on the right foot by mentioning one of your names but not the other. sorry about that huge of my worries. >> i was the leader of the heritage party as well. yes. >> no, no, no. yeah >> no, no, no, no. yeah i remember sunny novara media and david kurten is the heritage party. >> but aaron's a supporter. >> but aaron's a supporter. >> you ? >> aren't you? >> aren't you? >> i value heritage. let's put it that way. >> good. em“ it that way. >> good. like that >> excellent. good. i like that we're straight away , we're agreeing straight away, which we want. okay which is not what we want. okay we want to have a friendly , we want you to have a friendly, heated because it is heated debate because it is christmas . it's goodwill all christmas. it's goodwill to all men, etcetera, etcetera . now, men, etcetera, etcetera. now, obviously, i like everyone. this morning you woke up, you saw this news, a terror attack in

paris again, and your heart sinks . it's paris again, and your heart sinks. it's just you just when you think, oh, right, okay, we're getting through the terror attacks. another one happens. so, david, as we so rudely missed your name off just then, i'm going to come to you first. i'm going to come to you first. i mean, what do you make of what's. >> it's absolutely horrible. whenever these things happen, you know, and france seems to be a thatit you know, and france seems to be a that it happens more a country that it happens more than especially than many others, and especially this was a terrorist this year, there was a terrorist attack earlier in annecy, wasn't there, alps, in the there, in the alps, in the village where a got a knife village where a man got a knife and stabbed some children. i mean, so don't know whether mean, so we don't know whether this a lone or whether this was a lone wolf or whether this was a lone wolf or whether this who was this is someone who was sponsored supported by sponsored and supported by somebody but whatever it somebody else. but whatever it is, horrible situation is, it's a horrible situation and somebody's at the and somebody's dead at the moment. you know, don't moment. so you know, you don't want thing , these kind of want this thing, these kind of things to ever happen. but it's difficult at moment because difficult at the moment because there people who, you know , there are people who, you know, take this action because they feel way about feel a certain way about something. and haven't got something. and they haven't got the and principles the same values. and principles as we have . so we have to do as we have. so we have to do everything we can to stop this

from happening again in whatever way we do obviously way we can do aaron, obviously is , incredibly sad. is incredibly, incredibly sad. >> and, you know , thoughts with >> and, you know, thoughts with the people who are in hospital and recovering and obviously with the i think it was a german national who has lost his life, sadly, in that. why? i mean, david made an interesting. but it happen more in it does seem to happen more in in than thankfully in in france than thankfully in this country or many other european countries. why do you think that is? >> it's an interesting question. and to a bit of light and to inject a bit of light into this conversation, people are very down on britain for a number of reasons. yes, often. often with great justification. and i know people are might come on this channel or other channels or write in newspapers about how a multicultural model isn't working. and there are some aspects of it which obviously could be doing better. but i think france in particular with regards to integration of different communities has exceptionally problems. exceptionally bad problems. and i britain is better at i think britain is better at this than france . and like you this than france. and like you say, there's clearly something going on there. on top of that,

i would add, hitchens , who i would add, peter hitchens, who i'm an admirer of, would say this isn't terrorism. it's just a person with mental health issues. we shouldn't be pathologizing these things in such a way. what i would say, though, is you're on a watch list. you've been in prison for four years. i mean , you are four years. i mean, you are a terrorist. i think that's a reasonable thing. generally reasonable thing. i generally think place to think that's a decent place to come from. but in this instance, i would push back against i would push back against that. and look what an awful way and also look what an awful way to go these people were to go because these people were attacked with knives, with hammers. imagine hammers. i mean, i can't imagine a death than being a worse death than being bludgeoned hammer. this was bludgeoned by a hammer. this was a husband and wife , as olivia a husband and wife, as olivia said, nationals in paris said, german nationals in paris for the festive season . an for the festive season. an awful, awful story. and if he has got mental health issues, if he has been in prison, he had a psychiatric disorder, or so we're told. what on earth is he doing on the streets? >> well, this is i mean, he was on the watch list. he was on the terror watch list in france. i'm really pleased that you did say

there, though, you know, there, though, that, you know, people easy go people it's so easy to have a go at this country at the moment, isn't it? it's really everybody does it. i mean, everybody. but as mean, de as you say, i mean, tragic. de france to have a worse france does seem to have a worse problem with migration and integration than than we do in this country. how much do you think the fact that people in france are very angry about the way migration is being handled and the number of migrants? france does take? how much do you think that is a factor in these? >> well, we do take an awful lot of migrants as and we have of migrants as well. and we have had terrorist attacks and there was a spate of terrorist attacks in country around 2017, in this country around 2017, 2018. been 2018. so we could have been having conversation 5 having this conversation here 5 or 6 years we would be or 6 years ago, and we would be saying, well, it's so much worse here it is in france, here than it is in france, obviously at the moment. this year france than year it's worse in france than it is in this country. but we have to keep our guard up here as well sit down and as well and not sit down and relax because there is the potential for something to happen here well. but france happen here as well. but france does very specific does have very, very specific problems with the banlieues in the around the big cities the areas around the big cities where there no integration .

where there is no integration. when are they don't even when people are they don't even speak french there's speak french often. there's whole swathes of cities where people speak arabic or speak the languages of the integration. absolutely no integration and no desire of this country. exactly there are areas like like that here in the uk, but there are far , far more in france , you far, far more in france, you know. and so that is big know. and so that is a big problem . problem. >> aaron. how much do you think immigration is to do with these terror attacks in both countries ? >> 7- >> it's ? >> it's really hard to say 7 >> it's really hard to say . i >> it's really hard to say. i think on the one hand, i buy the argument that this man was troubled. he has mental, of coui'se. >> course. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i buy that. >> i buy that. >> no one saying does that. >> no one saying does that. >> and i think, you know, 50, 60 years ago. so there's an interesting sort of story here about how those kinds of people were institutionalised 60 were institutionalised 50, 60 years saying that's years ago. i'm not saying that's the to proceed, if the right way to proceed, but if you look at, for instance, in the united states the last the united states over the last 60 seen 60 years, you've seen a precipitous fall in people being institutionalised and a precipitous the precipitous increase in the people prison . and i people going to prison. and i think we probably get something

wrong in not enough people being institutionalised or not allocating enough resources to people with severe mental health issues.i people with severe mental health issues. i don't mean anxiety or depression or sad . and i think depression or sad. and i think perhaps we're incarcerating and i'm not saying it's too high or too low, but i think we incarcerate too many people for the wrong reasons. you know, multiple traffic offences or something i something daft like that. so i think there's something we're getting in regard to that. getting wrong in regard to that. what would as well, just what i would say as well, just returning to your about returning to your point about france and uk, of course, france and the uk, of course, france and the uk, of course, france had charlie hebdo, the bataclan tragedy . i just think bataclan tragedy. i just think it's i think it is much worse than the uk. what it really sticks in my mind was a few years ago tunisia, or maybe it was morocco who were playing france at the stade de france and these are the two national sides. and of course there are many people of arabic heritage and north african heritage in france. and as the marseillaise was played by jews was being played by jews throughout the stadium in france , it's an extraordinary moment. and that is unthinkable in this

country. and that's not to say britain's great france is rubbish. it just wouldn't happen. you know, i think if you look at, for instance, the national side in this country, people of all ethnic backgrounds, widely celebrated, widely heralded . and i do think widely heralded. and i do think and we'll talk about stuff over the next two hours, i'm sure i'll criticise britain for many things . things. >> we all will know you're on a roll. there's stay with it. roll. there's just stay with it. >> sorry i went overcook the pudding. >> some things but you know on this i think you know look we do get some things right and we're certainly doing things a little bit better than our european neighbours. >> one thing i don't think we have got right at david coming back to you is we 17,000 back to you is we have 17,000 people who government this people who the government this week don't know week admitted we don't know asylum , many here asylum seekers, many here illegally . we don't know because illegally. we don't know because we don't know who they are or what they are or where they're going. now people are sort of like getting in touch now are saying, well, hold on, we don't know are. they know who these people are. they could this, this man in could be like this, this man in paris that that is worrying people out there .

people out there. >> yeah. and that's on the back of it. i mean, i think it was two years there were figures two years ago there were figures for the number of people on the terrorist watch list. then was 20,000. what is 20,000. i don't know what it is now, but then you're adding to that people who are that all of the people who are coming in small boats who coming across in small boats who are control of in the are not kept control of in the government totally lost government has totally lost control of this control of people. this is saying don't where saying they don't know where they are. they're mostly military age and sure military age men. and i'm sure some over some of them just come over because they want to work. but some of them might be coming over with nefarious intentions. some of them might be coming over wjust|efarious intentions. some of them might be coming over wjust don't us intentions. some of them might be coming over wjust don't us inteso ons. some of them might be coming over wjust don't us inteso who so we just don't know. so who may in the may become a terrorist in the future these people coming future of these people coming over the government over that the government doesn't know about? this is know anything about? so this is something they've something that they've really got a on very, very got to get a grip on very, very quickly to protect the people in this country. >> we need something >> all we need is something horrific like this happening here. know, the here. and then you know, the migration shambles that have migration shambles that we have in is going to be in this country is going to be really brought home. isn't that right? all the right? okay. now, for all the best analysis and opinion on that story much , much more, best analysis and opinion on thétotory much , much more, best analysis and opinion on théto our much , much more, best analysis and opinion on théto our website ch , much more, best analysis and opinion on théto our website ,�*| , much more, best analysis and opinion on théto our website , gbnews.comz, go to our website, gbnews.com also for reassurance as well

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had dbs and co weeknights from . six >> hello, welcome back to gb news sunday with me dawn neesom on tv online and on digital radio. now at 3:00 today. i love this story. it's really heartwarming. it's a great christmas story. so stay with me at 3:00 today, bereaved israeli and palestinian families are set to come together. that's the important part. as part of an anti hate vigil. the event which has been dubbed building bridges together for humanity. we'll see faith leaders and politicians join grieving families for a first of its kind and hopefully not the last event since hamas militants entered israel in october. now, gb news london reporter lisa hartle joins me live from the vigil. thank you very much, lisa. it doesn't look very much, lisa. it doesn't look very nice there, weather—wise for joining me. can you tell us

forjoining me. can you tell us what is actually it sounds lovely. it sounds a lovely heartwarming story. so what exactly is happening there today ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's all ? >> well, it's all due to 7 >> well, it's all due to start from 3 pm, but i'm joined by one of the organisers , the one of the organisers, the widower of the late jo cox, the mp who was killed by a far right extremist out back in 2016 on, i believe . brendan, thank you so believe. brendan, thank you so much for joining believe. brendan, thank you so much forjoining us. thank you. much for joining us. thank you. so you're one of the main organisers of today. how many people are you expecting and what was the motivation behind this? >> so the motivation is to try to do something quite different to do something quite different to bring together israelis who have lost loved ones, palestinians who have lost loved ones, and to try to create a moment where people can share their grief together so much of this is about you have to pick one side or the other. >> and what today is about is trying to give voice to the vast majority of the public who are as upset and grieve as hard when it's an israeli child or a palestinian child who see that the of a muslim life is

the worth of a muslim life is the worth of a muslim life is the same as a jewish life. >> and so much of this debate is so split . it's trying to give so split. it's trying to give people those voice and to bring them together today. so in terms of numbers, really don't of numbers, we really don't know. >> it's one of those things where out. where you put this out. >> in the public. we >> it's in the public. we certainly had a think that's a sound check. >> apologies . what we've had is >> apologies. what we've had is we've had an incredible response from the public. and so we do expect thousands of people to come today. >> you tell me about some of >> can you tell me about some of the that are taking part the people that are taking part that you say have lost loved onesin that you say have lost loved ones in the conflict so far? >> of mine again and >> so a friend of mine again and both of his parents were killed attack on the 7th of october. >> he's a teacher. he lives in the uk here and he's coming to say that even in that pain, even in that grief, he doesn't want extremists drive hatred extremists to drive hatred against all muslims. he wants people stand together. people to stand together. >> you'll hear from >> and then you'll hear from layla moran, who lost a family member last week. member in gaza just last week. >> , that message and >> again, that same message and if those people if people who are who have lost their loved

ones can stand together, if they can come together and say we cannot turn against each other, we must together, if they we must hold together, if they can it , then we have to try can do it, then we have to try to that as well. to do that as well. >> do think a lot of >> and do you think a lot of people the moment almost people at the moment are almost frightened if they feel frightened to say if they feel sympathy the innocent sympathy for the innocent civilians on side civilians lost on either side for fear people all saying for fear of people all saying they're bigots or accusing them of various things ? of various things? >> i think generally people are scared about what to say and because there's so much noise, particularly on social media, with a sort of football ground atmosphere where you're on this side you're on that side. side or you're on that side. >> and the reality is, and the vast people the vast majority of people feel the same sympathy for israelis and for palestinian civilians who are caught up on this. and the reason so important is reason this is so important is we to not import the we have to not import the toxicity, the hate and that conflict into the uk and the uk. we live together in incredibly peacefully jews, peacefully muslims, jews, christians of faith. christians, people of no faith. and we to protect that and we need to protect that space. and what today is about is saying that no matter what your religion, matter what your religion, no matter what your religion, no matter what your what your politics, no matter what your politics, no matter what

you should happen next you think should happen next in the can come the conflict, you can still come together. you still grieve together. you can still grieve together, you can have together, but you can also have a really clear that this a really clear line that this is no for anti—jewish hate no excuse for anti—jewish hate or hate . or for anti—muslim hate. >> thank you so much forjoining us today. and i hope it all goes really we'll we'll be really well. we'll be we'll be bringing more in the next bringing you more in the next houn bringing you more in the next hour. after 3:00, there's hour. and after 3:00, there's due speakers due to be various speakers here. and brendan says , we're not and as brendan says, we're not quite sure how many people will be will be be here, but it will be definitely interesting hear definitely interesting to hear from the voices from some of the various voices that have speaking that they'll have speaking here later on. >> thank you very much. >> lisa, thank you very much. and i'm so glad you got to talk to david. please. sending my best good luck this best regards and good luck this afternoon with everything they're trying to do. they're very, very worthy course. lisa hartle, there at hartle, our reporter there at the joint vigil for peace in gaza and israel and thinking about those on all sides who have lost their lives. now, let's see what the panel make of this . david let's see what the panel make of this. david cohen, leader of let's see what the panel make of this . david cohen, leader of the this. david cohen, leader of the heritage party, and aaron bastani, co—founder of novara media. now, i, i, i love this

story. i was lucky enough to count joe cox as a neighbour when she was living in london, didn't know her that well, but obviously her loss was horrific . obviously her loss was horrific. i mean, absolutely terrible . and i mean, absolutely terrible. and that's why i'm so wary about the rhetoric we use around our mps. i mean, we also lost our david amess in southend, didn't we? so are we going to come to you first on this one, aaron? what do you make of what david cox is doing there? because he's the main organiser of this. >> really moving, >> this was really moving, actually said. i thought actually what he said. i thought it was incredibly moving. and i think talked about how think he talked about how often people's response these people's response to these events be analogous to events can be analogous to a football atmosphere. and football ground atmosphere. and i that's exactly right. i think that's exactly right. some of the things i've seen on social media have made my jaw drop recent weeks. know, drop in recent weeks. you know, for instance , the jerusalem post for instance, the jerusalem post published an article about a dead malnourished baby. they claimed it was a doll. now, the good thing with a news outlet is, of course they can delete it and apologise is. but there were and apologise is. but there were a of accounts that were a plethora of accounts that were haven't done that. they've shared footage this shared video and footage of this

, dead child and , this, this dead child and thousands of people retweeting it, going, this is a doll. how could you believe this? blah blah blah. i'm not saying this is one side. i'm just blah blah. i'm not saying this is one example. just blah blah. i'm not saying this is one example. no sure. and giving one example. no sure. and you amongst those you think i'm sure amongst those people this , there are people doing this, there are thousands of good family people. they . they look after they work hard. they look after people in their communities. they're caring, they're civilised . how does this happen ? civilised. how does this happen? partly, of course, it is. social media. but like you say, there is this environment where you think you just have to pick a side. i personally criticise israel not in this instance, but more generally, slightly more because i they have the because i feel they have the power, they have the leverage to change things more than the palestinians. in any case, palestinians. but in any case, what on october 7 was what happened on october 7 was appalling. was it was done by appalling. it was it was done by extremists. it was done by terrorists . and we can say the terrorists. and we can say the story doesn't start there. that's fine . but this doesn't that's fine. but this doesn't help. and equally, what israel is doing right now, every and every tower block that falls down is a recruiting sergeant for hamas. i believe. and i think not in the term

think it's not in the long term interests israel to be interests of israel to be prosecuting this war as it presently . so this is a light presently is. so this is a light in the darkness for me, really moving. and the fact he's got somebody coming over from israel who lost both their parents. yes. yes. incredibly powerful, think. >> yeah, absolutely . david, what >> yeah, absolutely. david, what do you make of that? >> yeah, look, i absolutely agree. i think this is a very, very good thing to be doing because we've seen polarised ation in this country as well as what's happening in middle what's happening in the middle east. try to not talk east. and i try to not talk about what's happening the about what's happening in the middle possibly middle east, if i possibly can, because people very, because i know people have very, very opinions on either very strong opinions on either side. mean, i know people who side. i mean, i know people who are strongly , are very, very strongly, staunchly they staunchly pro—israel and they will condemn hamas, as i do . will condemn hamas, as i do. >> what happened on the 7th of october was a horrible terrorist attack, though. >> over a thousand people died. but complete blind to the but their complete blind to the suffering of the palestinians and thousands of children have been killed by the idf attacks on gaza since then. >> and then i have people that i know are staunchly pro—palestine who will go out on the marches

and say , you know, this is and say, you know, this is they'll talk about the nakba in 1948, but there will be completely blind to the suffering of israeli families as well . well. >> but this is a march , an event >> but this is a march, an event that shows the suffering on both sides and it's just a call for humanity to recognise the humanity to recognise the humanity of both sides. and i think that's a wonderful thing to be doing. >> yeah, no, absolutely. and david, david cox is hoping that he will be able to organise more of these and hopefully these sort of vigils and marches of coming together of both sides . coming together of both sides. and it's not a football match, by the way. both sides will actually slowly start rubbing off on the governments involved . off on the governments involved. right. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom . plenty more me. dawn neesom. plenty more coming up on today's show. but first, let's have a look at those news headlines with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> it is 131 here in the

newsroom . police have confirmed newsroom. police have confirmed a death in freezing conditions after the body of a man was found in a car in nottingham describing the incident as tragic. they say they're investigating the circumstances but not treating it as but are not treating it as suspicious . meanwhile, 2500 suspicious. meanwhile, 2500 people are without power in cumbria as snow and ice continue to cause problems across the county. electricity north—west says they're struggling to reach sections of the damaged network, warning that services may not be restored until late tonight . at . restored until late tonight. at. a man's been killed and two people, including a british tourist, injured in a knife and hammer attack in paris. it happened near the eiffel tower last night in what the french president has described as a terrorist attack. officials have confirmed the man who died was a german tourist, a 26 year old french national who was sentenced to four years in prison in 2016 for planning another attack has been arrested . a an extra £15 million will

reportedly be given to rwanda as part of a stop the boats treaty . part of a stop the boats treaty. that's on top of the £140 million already received from the uk to take asylum seekers. the sunday times says the government is trying to secure a deal which will see migrants who cross the channel illegally also being sent to the east african country . and in some breaking country. and in some breaking news just into us, the former minister, in fact, those are pictures of gaza with the middle east where the british military have agreed to run surveys , have agreed to run surveys, flights over israel and gaza. they're going to be looking for hamas hostages as efforts are continuing to try to free those that are continued to be held in captivity by hamas. after a pause in fighting that lasted for a week . and we'll just try for a week. and we'll just try and bring you that breaking news. former minister and mep baroness kinnock has died. her family says she died peacefully

in her sleep at her home in london. she was married to former labour leader lord kinnock for 56 years . and we'll kinnock for 56 years. and we'll have more on all of our stories in our later programs and more right now on our website. gbnews.com . thank you very much, gbnews.com. thank you very much, aaron. >> lots more coming up on today's show. one of the uk's biggest property websites has blamed the record migration for the increase in household rents and for the affordability crisis in the sector in general . in the sector in general. interesting one that i wonder what you think of that, that one. but the really important thing we need to talk about today is obviously the weather. so let's have a look about what it's ellie glaisyer . it's doing with ellie glaisyer. >> . welcome to your latest >> hello. welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glaisyer. it's been cloudier glaisyer. it's been a cloudier and wetter day across the southern half of the uk. a bit of a change to what we've seen recently. this is due to an

recently. this is all due to an area of low pressure situated out the southwest, out towards the southwest, slowly moving its way towards us through and through the rest of today and into this will bring into tomorrow. this will bring outbreaks rain and outbreaks of showery rain and cloud larger area of band cloud and a larger area of band of rain pushing its way up from the southwest overnight tonight and tomorrow morning. and into tomorrow morning. there's to bring some there's likely to bring some quite rainfall totals, quite heavy rainfall totals, particularly to parts of south—west england south south—west england and south wales as well, and could turn wintry across the hills of wales, into wales, the midlands and into parts of northern england through monday a drier through monday morning. a drier but night again across but colder night again across parts of northern ireland and scotland, perhaps dropping down to or minus six. a to minus five or minus six. a milder start across the south—west, though particularly under that cloud and rain. under all that cloud and rain. and slowly continue and it will slowly continue to spread its way north and eastwards as we head through the day on monday, perhaps causing some some disruption during the morning rush hour. a drier and brighter day across brighter day again across northern parts of northern ireland. parts of western scotland where there'll be sunshine through be plenty of sunshine through the some showers the afternoon, but some showers pushing in along those eastern the afternoon, but some showers pushinofn along those eastern the afternoon, but some showers pushin of scotland. 1059 eastern the afternoon, but some showers pushin of scotland. another ern the afternoon, but some showers pushin of scotland. another cold coasts of scotland. another cold day across the north. temperatures low single temperatures in the low single figures, but milder again across the southwest that the southwest under all that cloud . tuesday starts cloud and rain. tuesday starts

another and damp picture another cloudy and damp picture for much of england and wales. but rain hill, hill, snow and sleet slowly clears its way south and eastwards through the day. will to a drier day. that will lead to a drier and brighter for of us and brighter day for most of us on wednesday, but colder, however, the week, however, later in the week, further wet windy weather further wet and windy weather arrives, milder for arrives, but turning milder for all widget it. >> we're here for the show . >> we're here for the show. welcome to the dinosaur hour with me john cleese . haha i was with me john cleese. haha i was married to a therapist and you survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie second best. i'm bellissima. you interviewed saddam hussein. what's that like? i was terrified. i'm playing strip poker with these three. >> oh, no, thank you . >> oh, no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> my cds need to be put in alphabetical order. >> oh, are you going to be problematic again ? problematic again? >> the dinosaur. our sundays on gb news is .

gb news is. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now one of the uk's biggest property websites has blamed record migration for the increase in household rents and for the affordability crisis in that sector, stopping many young people leaving their parents. now richard donald, executive director of zoopla, is the website in question, said net migration was putting pressure on rents at a time when many landlords are leaving the sector . in any case, it comes after figures published by the office for national statistics last week showed net migration reached a record . 745,000in reached a record. 745,000in 2022, which i think is roughly the size of leeds. if i remember rightly. now, joining me now is former brexit party mep and political commentator belinda de lucy. belinda, lovely to see you.thank lucy. belinda, lovely to see you. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon.

pleasure. belinda, what do you make of it? it seems i mean, there what you make of this there. what do you make of this story? on. before i have to story? go on. before i have to spout off about what i think. >> well, it's not rocket science. >> i mean, people have known this for years. >> so pleased. >> i'm so pleased. >> i'm so pleased. >> more high profile people are talking because the talking about it because the british public have been very aware that rental prices have been increasing. >> we've real problems with >> we've had real problems with demand and supply bannau and, you know, the record levels of immigration, seven over 700,000. where are they all going to go? there's no room at the inn for people already here. so i think labour and conservative governments that have pursued mass hyper immigration since 1997 have been utterly reckless, not ensuring that the infrastructure is here to support that , let alone the support that, let alone the impact it has on sort of our cultural identity , on our on our cultural identity, on our on our schools , but on housing in schools, but on housing in particular. the vast majority, it's reported nine out of ten of

all those that are newcomers to the country go directly into to an already strained rental market. and in the last year we had about 263,000 students coming over to our universities. and there's not enough student accommodation. so they over spill into the private rental sector. and as you mentioned, it's at a time where landlords are leaving as well. so we have got this crisis. we didn't seem to have this housing crisis pre 1997 when immigration was around 50,000 a year. we didn't have the waiting lists . it takes me a the waiting lists. it takes me a month now to get an appointment at my local nhs. it is a huge strain and i think the conservative and labour governments who've pursued this reckless policy have done it out of an addiction to cheap labour and have not thought through the impacts it has. so especially on young families, because of course we have a birth rate decline in this country too, and we're really struggling to

create a climate, a healthy climate for couples to expand their families . and one of the their families. and one of the reasons is, is because they they can't afford to go into a bigger home to have more rooms so that they can have more children . they can have more children. and, you know, we're already , i and, you know, we're already, i think, the second most highly densely populated country in europe as it is, excluding all the sort of mini states and so to accept vast amounts of numbers when we don't have the housing, i think is reckless and a dereliction of duty. but people keep voting for these parties in and it's beyond me that the young people want to vote for parties that support mass immigration because it's them that are going to suffer on them that are going to suffer on the housing ladder. and it's never been in a manifesto. dorner i don't think not one manifesto said that the manifesto have said that the government wants in power will pursue immigration. they've pursue mass immigration. they've they've craftily kept it out and yet they pursue it behind closed doors once they're so doors once they're in. so unfortunately, it doesn't look great for young . not enough great for our young. not enough houses are being being built. the planning isn't

the planning planning isn't liberalised enough. but the biggest factor is hyper mass immigration. when we're already struggling to find housing for those already here. >> thank you very much, belinda . >> thank you very much, belinda. thank you very much for joining us afternoon. very strong us this afternoon. very strong opinions belinda dalhousie opinions out belinda dalhousie for former brexit party mep on the fact that mass migration has been blamed for the shortage of housing. what do you make of this one? david yeah, well it's absolutely true. >> i mean, it's not rocket science, is it? i mean, it's just simple maths. there's 745,000 people coming in in 2022. they all need somewhere to stay. how many homes did we build in that year? i mean, about 100, 200,000, something like that. so there's nowhere near new homes being near enough new homes being built for the people coming in, let the population. the let alone the population. the natural population growth of this country. but i don't want lots of new homes everywhere because essentially because we're essentially we're full. look after our full. we need to look after our countryside new countryside and not build new housing estates all over prime agriculture land, which is happening. we need to protect

the character of our towns and cities as well, protect our heritage so need to get heritage. so they need to get a grip on this. and just it's grip on this. and they just it's something that's got out of control. it's something that's been actually been out of control actually since 1997. >> so what is the solution? do we mean, obviously, know we i mean, obviously, we know what the long term solutions could mean, could be. i mean, you know, i know you're against more building of houses, but we literally immigration, building of houses, but we literalput immigration, building of houses, but we literalput a immigration, building of houses, but we literalput a hold immigration, building of houses, but we literalput a hold onimigration, building of houses, but we literalput a hold on immigration, put a put a hold on immigration, not stop it. >> i mean, we've got 745,000 >> but i mean, we've got 745,000 net. there's over net. that means there's over a million people coming into the country. and then a few hundred thousand leaving. we need to balance out again. balance that out again. >> what i would is have >> so what i would do is have strict caps on work visas and student visas over. >> i think they gave out over a half a million student visas and student dependence visas together combined last year. student dependence visas together combined last year . we together combined last year. we need to reduce that to 100,000. that reduces net immigration by 500,000 straight away. strict caps on work visas that would reduce net immigration by another 200,000. if we had just 100,000 work visas. and then we need to train our own young people to do the jobs that need

to be done rather than relying on labour from abroad . on cheap labour from abroad. >> well, i don't know how it would what would would be done, but what would you say to the suggestion that somehow know how to somehow now i don't know how to phrase but indigenous phrase this, but indigenous brits given priority in the brits were given priority in the rental housing market. >> well, they should. they should mean , it's hard should do. but i mean, it's hard to because if someone to do because if someone actually has the right to live here, i mean, you're going to say then to a landlord, well, you can only a house to you can only rent a house to this person and not to that person. i mean, you need to address this on a more fundamental level and say, well, we've got to get immigration and control and you know, control and then, you know, reduce the demand because the supply is never going to meet the demand that we have here. and so i think we need to address it in that way. >> okay, aaron, coming to you, i mean, is it dangerous to blame migrants for this ? migrants for this? >> i don't think it's dangerous, but i also don't think necessarily blame is the right word. i mean, the people coming over here probably would like cheaper rents as well. one funny

thing is that because the thing for me is that because the net immigration figures for last year were revised up, that now means they're going down because they have been revised up 750,000. i think now it's something like six. >> it was 600, yeah. basically over two years. it's 1.3 over two years. it's1.3 million, which birmingham million, which is birmingham basically a lot of people. >> but i just find that amusing because sunak say we've >> but i just find that amusing bec it se sunak say we've >> but i just find that amusing bec it under sunak say we've >> but i just find that amusing bec it under control. say we've >> but i just find that amusing bec it under control. it's we've got it under control. it's coming down now. and what's remarkable of this, remarkable about all of this, dawn , is that tories have dawn, is that the tories have done impossible . a plurality done the impossible. a plurality of voters now think net of remain voters now think net immigration is too high. so a conservative government has acted in such a way over the last four years that a plurality , not a majority, but more often than not, of remain votes in the 2016 referendum. think net migration is too high. that's on the watch of the conservative party now . why are they obsessed party now. why are they obsessed with the small boats ? you might with the small boats? you might think some people come over the channel that's fine, but let's look the numbers. 27,000 look at the numbers. 27,000 people over people have come over the channel far. okay. channel this year so far. okay. let's 30,000 for the let's take me 30,000 for the yeah let's take me 30,000 for the year. we're looking like you

year. we're looking at like you say, a net migration of 650 to 700,000 a year over the last two years. focus that years. they focus on that precisely of the precisely because of the failings on legal migration, on legal migration, the nursing register register. this is an extraordinary statistic . half of extraordinary statistic. half of the nurses now going on the nursing register are from overseas, 50% of the nurses. so there is a reason why we have lots of people coming here is because if we didn't have them coming over here, we'd have economic contraction they love to talk about, oh, gdp is going up, it's not going up per person. it's going up because we're many people come we're having so many people come here. the nhs would be struggling. wages would go up. there's don't do there's a reason they don't do it, they don't want talk it, but they don't want to talk about those because of course that would mean a rethink our that would mean a rethink of our economic model. >> okay. right. unfortunately, we're running out of time. again, debate, again, it's a brilliant debate, isn't it? lots of good debate in this one, right? more this one, right? lots more coming show as well. coming up on the show as well. it's been talking it's been oh, we're talking about the weather. we're british. it's british. why wouldn't we? it's been a frosty start december. been a frosty start to december. it's called winter. it's the

coldest britain has seen coldest winter britain has seen in ten years. evidently in the past ten years. evidently and worse. and it's getting worse. marvellous all of marvellous really helping all of that and much more come. that and much more to come. i'm dawn and watching dawn neesom and you're watching and to gb news, and listening to gb news, britain's news channel so put your cup, the kettle on your cup, cup, put the kettle on and don't go too far

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>> dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio so you can listen while you're putting your tree up. okay because you need to have it up now . by the way, to have it up now. by the way, three weeks, tomorrow, christmas day, you're not you're not ready , are you? now, let's talk about the weather, because why wouldn't office wouldn't we? now, the met office has yellow weather has issued a yellow weather warning for the east warning for ice in the east midlands , the west midlands and midlands, the west midlands and north of england. and much of nonh north of england. and much of north and central wales. pretty much everywhere. from 5 pm. this evening. it comes as a major incident, actually. this is horrible declared by is horrible has been declared by a cumbrian police after heavy snowfall with people urged to only travel if necessary . it is only travel if necessary. it is estimated that 2500 homes in the region are without power now joining me is meteorologist john catley. hello so, john, are you there ? yes, you are, john. thank there? yes, you are, john. thank you very much for joining us. indeed, dawn, i've got so many questions i want to ask you, not least what it's like to have a song sung about you. but evidently i have to talk to you

about the weather. john so what is going with the weather? i is going on with the weather? i mean, for that, it's mean, for all that, it's basically winter, isn't it ? basically winter, isn't it? >> well, isn't this the bottom line, really? >> we're at the beginning of december. >> we expect some years that we're going to see some cold and wintry weather. >> and i think it's very refreshing because it gets people a little bit excited, more of a festive feeling about things for your tree things they go out for your tree and the snow is coming down and then you can get back home, get it all, decorate dated, and you can forward. for can look forward. hopefully for some weather and maybe some more cold weather and maybe the for some snow as the potential for some snow as we approach day. of we approach christmas day. of course, ever happens we approach christmas day. of courcertainly ever happens we approach christmas day. of courcertainly couldn'tar happens we approach christmas day. of courcertainly couldn't predictans and certainly couldn't predict that at moment. but for the that at the moment. but for the time being, it is pretty treacherous out there. we've seen some heavy snowfall, notably across the north midlands overnight and some of the snow is going to be moving further north in the next 12 to 18 hours. so there will be more snow moving up the pennines also into eastern scotland later on tonight and through tomorrow. so that's where the more of a wintry flavour. once again, as

we into monday , the start of we go into monday, the start of the working further the working week, but further south, milder south, actually, much milder winds so it'll be winds are coming in. so it'll be heavy rain. sadly everything's going get very soggy across going to get very soggy across much of england and wales as we go into monday. won't be go into monday. and it won't be very pleasant at all. so it's in the there's a wintry the north where there's a wintry flavour the on flavour throughout the day. on monday. >> e how monday. >> how unusual e how unusual mean, >> okay. and how unusual i mean, it mean, yesterday it does seem i mean, yesterday we just talking in the we were just talking in the studio yesterday been studio here yesterday did been particularly cold. how unusual is cold snap, is this? this cold snap, particularly north? particularly up north? i mean, the the north—west the northeast and the north—west have badly have both been quite badly affected. i think someone affected. and i think someone lost their life overnight in their a homeless their car, a homeless person, which awful . but which is dreadfully awful. but how unusual is it for this time of year to be that cold? >> well, —12, i think, was recorded last night at altnaharra in the north of scotland. and they would get —12 in most winters up in those glens up in the far north of scotland. that's what would happen at some point of the winter. of course, it doesn't always happen at the same point . always happen at the same point. we get it at different of always happen at the same point. we year. at different of always happen at the same point. we year. more fferent of always happen at the same point. we year. more common of always happen at the same point. we year. more common really , to the year. more common really, to get your coldest weather as we

go into january and perhaps early when early february. that's when things colder and things are getting colder and colder the sea colder because the sea temperatures actually temperatures are actually keeping as well. keeping going down as well. so it's temperatures which it's the sea temperatures which dominate some of weather in dominate some of our weather in the months and the the winter months and the temperature of —12 last night was typical of the snow fields. really of northern britain, where it's been snowing a lot more, of course, than further south, where many places have still got to some still got to see some snow. there anything at still got to see some snow. thein anything at still got to see some snow. thein the anything at still got to see some snow. thein the say, rthing at still got to see some snow. thein the say, the|g at still got to see some snow. thein the say, the south at all in the say, the south midlands and southern england apart from just the other day. there the moors there was some snow on the moors of the west country. but most places are in this places are still in this. this rather soggy regime. and think rather soggy regime. and i think one of the problems this week is that going to see bands of that we're going to see bands of wet windy moving wet and windy weather moving in from which is not from the atlantic, which is not where to really that where we want to be really that isn't festive. and the bad news about is, course, if you about that is, of course, if you get more and more rain piled up on top of the next one, then you're a risk of you're going to get a risk of flooding and swollen rivers and all this. we don't want all this. and we don't want people evacuated from people being evacuated from their houses as you towards christmas. >> sounds w" >> no, that sounds pretty grim, to honest with you. just one

to be honest with you. just one final question. why christmas? i know away and know it's three weeks away and i know it's three weeks away and i know can't predict, but go know you can't predict, but go on. at lie about it. go on. at least lie about it. go on. at least lie about it. go on. what going to have a on. what are we going to have a white we'll be eating snowmen. >> snowmen. >> i'm not going to lie with a smile on my face, so i'm going to take that off. right. okay it looks like it's going to be it looks like it's going to be it looks it's more likely to looks like it's more likely to be christmas because be a green christmas because that's of averages. the that's the law of averages. the statistics us that 7 statistics tell us that it's 7 to 1 against a white christmas. at the moment. the milder weather but then weather is coming in, but then there a sign of colder there is a sign of colder weather coming the final weather coming in for the final week of december. so the week of december. so at the moment. the splinters moment. all right, the splinters here, sitting on that fence, here, i'm sitting on that fence, just again a couple just come back again in a couple of okay. of weeks. okay. >> well, i'll take i'll take the cold bit. >> thank you very much, john kelly, us. and kelly, forjoining us. and i didn't about the song. didn't ask you about the song. we run out of time. thank you very much. you're watching and listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me. neesom. let's take me. dawn neesom. let's take a look weather in more look at the weather in more detail ellie glaisyer detail with ellie glaisyer a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors weather on . gb news.

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glazier. it's been a cloudier and wetter day across the southern half of the uk. a bit of a change to what we've seen recently. this is all due to an area of low pressure situated out towards the southwest, slowly moving its way towards us through today and through the rest of today and into this will bring into tomorrow. this will bring outbreaks showery rain and outbreaks of showery rain and cloud and a larger area of band of pushing its way up from of rain pushing its way up from the overnight tonight the southwest overnight tonight and tomorrow morning. and into tomorrow morning. this is bring some quite is likely to bring some quite heavy totals, heavy rainfall totals, particularly to parts of southwest england south southwest england and south wales could turn wales as well, and could turn wintry across the of wintry across the hills of wales, the midlands and into parts northern england parts of northern england through morning. a drier through monday morning. a drier but colder again across but colder night again across parts northern ireland and parts of northern ireland and scotland, perhaps dropping down to or six. to minus five or minus six. a milder start across the south—west, though particularly under that cloud and rain. under all that cloud and rain. and it will slowly continue to spread way north and spread its way north and eastwards through the eastwards as we head through the day monday, perhaps causing day on monday, perhaps causing some the some some disruption during the morning drier and morning rush hour, a drier and brighter again across brighter day again across northern ireland. parts of western where there'll western scotland, where there'll

be sunshine through be plenty of sunshine through the afternoon, some showers the afternoon, but some showers pushing eastern pushing in along those eastern coasts of scotland. another cold day across the north. temperatures single temperatures in the low single figures, but milder again across the that the southwest under all that cloud rain , tuesday starts cloud and rain, tuesday starts another cloudy and damp picture for much of england and wales. but hill, hill, snow and but rain hill, hill, snow and sleet slowly clears its way south and eastwards through the day. that will lead to a drier and for of us and brighter day for most of us on wednesday, but colder, however, the week, however, later in the week, further windy weather further wet and windy weather arrives, milder for all. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. hello and welcome to gb news sunday and thank you for joining us this lunchtime. >> i'm dawn neesom for the next houn >> i'm dawn neesom for the next hour. i'll be keeping you company on tv , online and on company on tv, online and on digital radio so you can still put the tree up and listen to me. no excuses. now coming up this hour, sir keir starmer has been accused of trying to ride on the coattails of wait for it margaret thatcher's success by praising the former prime minister while appealing to tory voters. interesting one. and what about the security in our country? the met police has warned people to be vigilant about terror attacks in the uk.

we've seen what happened in paris overnight, haven't we? and security sources have directly told gb news it is likely only a matter of time that something similar happens here. it's been reported that the eu could be about to weaponize energy as revenge for brexit. oh god, brexit again. we mentioned that word . all that and much more to word. all that and much more to come and we might talk about brussels sprouts because it is nearly christmas. do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials. really simple. it'sjust message on our socials. really simple. it's just gb message on our socials. really simple. it'sjust gb news. what's stopping you ? but first, what's stopping you? but first, here's the news with the lovely aaron armstrong . thank you, aaron armstrong. thank you, dawn, and a very good afternoon to you. >> it is a minute past to aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. police have confirmed a death in freezing conditions after the body of man after the body of a man was found in in nottingham found in a car in nottingham describing the incident as tragic. they're tragic. they say they're

investigating circumstances investigating the circumstances but treating it as but are not treating it as suspicious death. meanwhile, around people in cumbria around 2500 people in cumbria could be without power until late tonight after heavy snow. electricity north—west says their teams are struggling to reach sections of the damaged network. weather warnings for snow and ice remain in place for many parts of the country. senior meteorologist dale, senior meteorologist jim dale, though, says the milder conditions the coming days conditions over the coming days could now lead to floods. cable take that area saw about a foot of snow level snow that now that if you melt that snow, which is what meteorologists do, it equates to inch tomorrow we equates to an inch tomorrow we got another system coming in, another system which has got low pressure attached to it's quite a tight, tight thing. >> there'll be wind, but also >> so there'll be wind, but also heavy well. now, heavy weight rain as well. now, all snow down and not just all that snow down and not just monday, but on wednesday as well. quite heavyweight rain. so all this snow and the rain attached to it that's coming . i attached to it that's coming. i think we might be looking at floods in midweek. again a man's been killed and two people, including a british tourist, were injured in a knife and

hammer attack in paris. >> happened near the eiffel >> it happened near the eiffel tower in what the tower last night in what the french has described french president has described as terrorist attack. officials french president has described as confirmedtack. officials french president has described as confirmedtack.man:ials french president has described as confirmedtack.man who died have confirmed the man who died was tourist at a 26 was a german tourist at a 26 year old french national known to security services has been arrested and the suspect reportedly told police he was upset about muslims dying in gaza and afghanistan . tributes gaza and afghanistan. tributes are being paid to baroness kinnock, who died in the early hours of this morning. the family of the former minister mep and wife of the ex—labour leader, lord kinnock, says she was a proud democratic socialist who campaigned for justice was a proud democratic socialist who campaigned forjustice and who campaigned for justice and against poverty all her life . against poverty all her life. she was diagnosed with alzheimer's in 2017. sir keir starmer has described her as a pioneering woman and a true fighter for the labour party . an fighter for the labour party. an extra £15 million will reportedly be given to rwanda to take migrants who arrive in the uk illegally. that's on top of the £140 million already received . the sunday times says received. the sunday times says the additional funds aim to secure a treaty so the east african country also takes

asylum seekers who cross the channelin asylum seekers who cross the channel in small boats . the uk channel in small boats. the uk will carry out surveillance flights over the middle east to find hostages held by hamas. more than 130 people are still being held captive in gaza, where fighting has resumed following a week long truce . the following a week long truce. the ministry of defence says the unarmed flights will not have a combat role. meanwhile, israel continues to carry out intense airstrikes in southern gaza. the hamas run health ministry says seven palestinians were killed and several others injured dunng and several others injured during a raid on rafah city. the uk has so the us has called on israel to avoid further harm to civilians in its fight against hamas . the uk will give £100 hamas. the uk will give £100 million to vulnerable countries most affected by climate change. it will provide nations with early warning systems for extreme weather and will help tackle food and water shortages and a rise in infectious diseases. the government says global warming pushes 26 million people into poverty every year . people into poverty every year. international development minister andrew mitchell will

announce the plans at the cop 28 climate summit in dubai later. there's ongoing travel disruption as train drivers stage another day of strikes . stage another day of strikes. the aslef union members have launched a series of walkouts in a dispute over pay. the great northern thameslink and avanti west coast trains have been cancelled chiltern railways and mid west midlands railway services are also affected . this services are also affected. this is gb news across the uk on tv, on digital radio and on smart. speaker two now it is back to dawn . dawn. >> thank you very much. aaron. right let's get straight into today's topic, shall we? now sir keir starmer has been accused of trying to ride on the coattails of margaret thatcher's success by praising the former prime minister while appealing to the tory voters. you really can't make our politics up at the moment, can you? the labour leader has used a sunday telegraph opinion piece to

praise conservative mrs. thatcher for having sought to drag britain out of its stupor by setting loose our natural entrepreneur . and entrepreneur. and entrepreneurialism. i can't talk straight this afternoon. sorry too much brussels sprouts. the move is expected to annoy some members to the left of his party. i would have thought so, wouldn't you? joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley olivia , thank you olivia utley olivia, thank you very much for joining olivia utley olivia, thank you very much forjoining us again. now, what do you make of keir starmer in the telegraph of all papers today as well, which is about as tory as you can get? what do you make of what he's saying? >> well, it's fascinating to see keir starmer's journey from left to right. not so long ago he was , as we know very well, rishi sunak says it week after week in the commons. he was campaigning to make jeremy corbyn prime minister when he became leader of the labour party. he chose a shadow cabinet which was a mixture of corbynistas because he knew that the left of the

party would want to see some corbynistas in the shadow cabinet and some more sort of centre. even even centre right politicians as his leadership has gone on, we've seen him very slowly move away from the left of the party. first he got rid of the party. first he got rid of some of those shadow cabinet ministers who were who were more sympathetic to the corbyn cause then he got rid of he ousted jeremy corbyn and diane abbott from the party. altogether enhen from the party. altogether either. and the last few months we've really seen him actually quite blame urgently move towards a blair ist stance. we've seen the shadow home secretary yvette cooper, using john blair's phrases as we've seen shadow cabinet ministers explicitly say that they want to do what tony blair did, and now we've got keir starmer doing precisely what tony blair did in 1997 and praising margaret thatcher. this is an explicit bit woo to the people on the

right of the party, on the on the right of the labour party and on the left of the conservative party those swing voters that he knows are so important to conservatives who are the are disillusion with the conservative this is conservative party. this is a call for them to come over to laboun call for them to come over to labour. now. it will annoy those on the left of the party, but keir starmer's calculation is clearly that what he needs to be doing now, the left is shored up labour voters are going to vote labour voters are going to vote labourin labour voters are going to vote labour in the next election. what he needs now to make what he needs now is to make sure some of those usual tory voters in those blue wall seats feel confident in keir starmer and sort shortcut to doing and sort of shortcut to doing thatis and sort of shortcut to doing that is praising margaret thatcher in the telegraph as you say, which is about the most conservative outlet you can imagine . imagine. >> but it's quite a brave move actually, isn't it? i mean, it's, you know, i mean, sir keir starmer is often accused of sitting on the fence and flip flopping all over the place, but it is quite a bright move. i mean, because a brave move because party, parties because the party, both parties are so divided at the moment and

this could be even more divisive for the labour party itself. you might win over some of those tories, but incredibly divisive for the labour party. and there are other options . people don't. are other options. people don't. they can not vote for labour at the next election, which is very, very soon. well i think if you look into exactly what keir starmer said, he is pretty careful. >> he does sort of tread pretty lightly around the actual praise that he heaps on margaret thatcher. he says that that she affected meaningful change in britain. he says that she allowed people to explore their entrepreneurial drive or words to that effect. and so he didn't actually explicitly praise too many of her of her policies. so i think the way he'll try and square it with mps on the left of his party who who say that, you know, who think who genuinely believe that margaret thatcher sort of evil, is thatcher was sort of evil, is that he he didn't actually praise any individual move that she made in government . and he

she made in government. and he didn't say in any way that he would try and replicate thatcher ism. he simply was praising the most uncontroversial parts of her legacy , the fact that she her legacy, the fact that she was open to new businesses and open made britain open to entrepreneurs . it's pretty entrepreneurs. it's pretty difficult to deny that. so i think what keir starmer is hoping is that words like that will encourage courage, sort of cautious voters, cautious conservative voters who might be prepared to swing. they'll be bolstered by keir starmer's praise of margaret thatcher. but then he's sort of hoping probably that those on the left of the party won't be too annoyed because it's not like he's actually gone out there and said he's going to said that he's going to replicate thatcherism . he's replicate thatcherism. he's praising the most uncontroversial parts his uncontroversial parts of his legacy. so yes , it is brave, but legacy. so yes, it is brave, but i think there is still an element of walking a tightrope there and perhaps a little bit of fence sitting. >> it's that that that that favourite sitting on the fence position isn't it. olivia utley thank much for that .

thank you very much for that. i'm going to come to you first on this one, erin. okay now you're on the left because everyone has to be left or right. these everything has to be left or right, doesn't it? there's no there's no in the middle. so you're you're the lefty. you're rampant lefty lefty. you're the rampant lefty on the panel. what you make on the panel. what do you make of keir starmer has done today? >> well, i think it's ridiculous, frankly. see, what i find really amusing thing with labour particular, and this labour in particular, and this goes keir goes back this precedes keir starmer is that it's a party which generally draws its mps from the law lawyers as he was a lawyer is a lawyer. tony blair was. a lot of people forget that or what i call the ngo. third sector industrial complex , and i sector industrial complex, and i don't even know what that means . don't even know what that means. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> i've said it's bad. i'm saying it to bamboozle your your audience. who come out of audience. people who come out of the third sector charities and nice groups that want to make life better for people overwhelmingly based in london and it misses out the two

groups, i think, which are hugely important. if you want to build a coalition for change in this country, blue collar britain and the small business owners people like starmer britain and the small business own his people like starmer britain and the small business own his ilk people like starmer britain and the small business own his ilk and ple like starmer britain and the small business own his ilk and all like starmer britain and the small business own his ilk and all these tarmer britain and the small business own his ilk and all these labour and his ilk and all these labour mps labour candidates who've mps and labour candidates who've never been involved in business, have started a business, have never started a business, all claim love business. if all claim they love business. if you love it so much, why didn't you love it so much, why didn't you start one? he's talking you ever start one? he's talking about natural about the natural entrepreneurial impulses of people . it can't that natural people. it can't be that natural because you've never started a business. so i. i find it very frustrating and i criticise the tories for many things , but they tories for many things, but they do have some people who've been in private business. jeremy hunt is them . although that is one of them. although that said he's not doing the best job as chancellor. >> yeah, i was going to say it's probably not the best example, but need more people who have but we need more people who have had high street bricks and mortar businesses, had to mortar businesses, who've had to pay, mortar businesses, who've had to pay, build pay, people who've had to build something, manage something, who've had to manage a from start to finish. >> so that's the first thing. the second thing is the very first seconds of his campaign video, it's become labour party

leader who are about the 1980s and the dark days of margaret thatcher. >> i was just going to mention that. yeah. >> and now he's saying, well, this is so this was so good. she was a positive influence and so on. so look, he doesn't support a ceasefire in gaza, but he wants a humanitarian pause . he wants a humanitarian pause. he doesn't support public ownership of services . yet he did when he of services. yet he did when he was seeking the leadership. he was seeking the leadership. he was mr remainer until 2019. now he's saying the opportunities of brexit aren't being taken on. so look , i think he'll be the next look, i think he'll be the next prime minister but that approach of talking from both sides of your mouth, doing that, when you've got the top job is very, very hard. i'm intrigued , ed, as very hard. i'm intrigued, ed, as to how he'll proceed as prime minister if he keeps on with this approach. >> what do you reckon? >> what do you reckon? >> well, i'm no fan of either labour or what i call the fake conservative party. i think they're as each other now. they're both as each other now. i mean, they've coalesced into one party in terms of their one uni party in terms of their policies is reinforcing that, isn't it?

>> if i was going hold on, hold on. what's left, what's right, what's right, what's conservative. >> so he's, he's sort of giving faint praise to margaret thatcher same interview thatcher in the same interview that saying he's also the that he's saying he's also the heir tony which surely heir to tony blair, which surely the things are mutually the two things are mutually exclusive. tony blair did actually, our describe thatcher as a towering political figure, didn't he? well, which is true. but again, that's faint praise. i mean, you could say she's a towering political figure without actually agreeing with her policies and what she did. so he's acknowledged her existing essentially same existing essentially at the same time when he really can't define a properly either. he took a woman properly either. he took a woman properly either. he took a time to actually a long, long time to actually say a woman is someone with say that a woman is someone with a female anatomy. i don't say that a woman is someone with a female anatomy . i don't know a female anatomy. i don't know what he would say if you asked him today on that. so really, he's flip flopping all over the place. trying to find place. he's trying to find messages certain messages to appeal to certain groups without groups of voters without actually laying on the table what his policies are and what he stands for. i mean, he actually stands for. i mean, he's also said in this article he's also said in this article he's accusing the conservatives of betraying the country on immigration when , you know, he

immigration when, you know, he wants more immigration. i mean, there's nothing labour are going to do to cut immigration any more than the tories have not cut immigration when he's also accusing them of not making the most of brexit, as you said erin. well, he was against leaving the european union and you know , until recently you're you know, until recently you're not sure whether he actually wants to go back and rejoin the european union. so we really don't know what he actually stands for. i mean, you can guess because you can sort of read between the lines and sort of see what he stands for really things that are not going to be that good for the country is my favourite line from this interview was adding the conservatives have failed to realise the possibilities of brexit. >> this is the mr remainer himself once upon a time. but yeah, hey , it's a different day, yeah, hey, it's a different day, so i'll have a different opinion . great. well, thank you very much for that particular debate. i mean, it's a fascinating i'd love to what think. love to know what you think. just get in touch. it's gb views at gb news. what do you think?

is this the right move? are you one there keir one over there by, sir keir supporting margaret thatcher. fascinating get in fascinating let us know. get in touch. us know you touch. let us know what you think. you're watching and think. now you're watching and listening news sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming today's show . now, coming up on today's show. now, this is my favourite story today. bereaved israeli and palestinian families are coming together as part of an anti—hate vigil outside downing street. all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel. don't go too far.

sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news as . news as. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now bereaved israeli and palestinian families are coming together as part of an anti hate vigil outside downing street this afternoon. read lives who lost loved ones in the conflict between israel and palestine warn that their bereavement cannot be used to promote hatred . and i love this story. i think it's so at this time of year in particular, it's really emotional that this hate is not winning gb news london reporter lisa hartle joins me live from downing street to bring us up to speed on what is happening. good afternoon, lisa. thank you for joining us. so what's happening there now ? there now? >> hello. well, since this conflict began, we've seen the

number of hate crimes against the muslim and jewish community. excuse me. sorry. rise sharply. and it's hoped that events like this today will go some way to stopping that hatred. now i'm joined by two of the organisers , joined by two of the organisers, julie, who is muslim , and hannah julie, who is muslim, and hannah who is jewish. thank you both for joining us today. what are you hoping? this is the first time we've seen the both sides, people coming together to support both sides of the conflict. what are you hoping will the main objective for will be the main objective for today will be the main objective for tod yeah, think look, we just >> yeah, i think look, we just thought it was really important to create space that isn't to create a space that isn't forcing people take side. forcing people to take a side. >> you know, there so >> and, you know, there are so many different ways of looking at and it's all many different ways of looking at it and it's all many different ways of looking at it is and it's all many different ways of looking at it is heartbreaking. nd it's all many different ways of looking at it is heartbreaking. and:'s all many different ways of looking at it is heartbreaking. and we|ll of it is heartbreaking. and we just was really just felt it was really important that people can have a space to come together and be together, really, as it says, together, really, as it says, together and we've together for humanity. and we've had thing and had such an interest thing and overwhelming actually, overwhelming response actually, not but in not just for today, but in general idea that we general for this idea that we need bring people together. need to bring people together. as you said, the numbers of hate crimes going and up and crimes are going up and up and thatis crimes are going up and up and that is something that should be concerning. all of us. this

isn't concerning. all of us. this isnt and concerning. all of us. this isn't and jewish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is and jewish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an and jewish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an issueind jewish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an issue forjewish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an issue for all'ish issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an issue for all oh issue. concerning. all of us. this isn't is an issue for all of us. ue. this is an issue for all of us. and really need to come and we really need to come together as much as we can. and i me, it's very i think for me, it's very heartening that so many people have said they're coming today to stand together to just stand together in central feels a central london. it feels like a really thing do. really important thing to do. >> and you think that >> and hannah, do you think that many people will are really cautious or frightened the cautious or frightened at the moment support for moment to show support for either side or sympathy for either side or sympathy for either being either side for fear of being called bigot or sympathiser called a bigot or sympathiser thing or condoning the actions of the other side? >> yeah, i think that that's exactly right, that for a lot of people, they feel that any show of empathy for the palestinian people is a show of support for hamas. show of hamas. and equally, any show of empathy the people of israel empathy for the people of israel is for israeli is support for the israeli government actually, one of government and actually, one of the we're trying the things that we're trying to do here to say there are do here is to say there are humans on both sides of this conflict and you need to be able to look people in the eye and see and see their humanity. and that actually can you can still actually you can you can still have a side. you know, may have a side. you know, you may have a side. you know, you may have a side. you know, you may have a that you have an have a side that you have an allegiance to that you pick if people sides. that people pick sides. but that

doesn't able doesn't stop you from being able to say, i see the pain in the other side. what we're other side. and what we're trying to do is create a space where bridge that where people can bridge that divide and do it in a way where they feel safe and they feel that not going to in they feel safe and they feel tiplace not going to in they feel safe and they feel tiplace where»t going to in they feel safe and they feel tiplace where someone) in they feel safe and they feel tiplace where someone says n a place where someone says something, which that they something, which means that they feel that they're not represented, which one the represented, which is one of the reasons no reasons we've said to people, no placards, no flags. placards, no signs, no flags. this is a space not for politics, but actually just for shared humanity. >> you've people here >> and you've got people here today lost loved ones today that have lost loved ones on of conflict. on both sides of the conflict. could tell me a bit about could you tell me a bit about them? yes >> so we've got speakers coming from palestinian from israeli and palestinian perspectives, have perspectives, all of whom have very connections. so, very direct connections. so, again, who's speaking? his parents killed on the 7th parents were killed on the 7th of october. we've got hamza, of october. and we've got hamza, who's here, who has family in the west bank, and he's got connections there. and got connections there. and we've got others. we've got robbie, who's speaking, whose son was killed many been many years ago, and she's been working peace ever since. so working for peace ever since. so i know, for us to i think, you know, for us to hear people who have hear those people who have direct connection with that part of is very powerful. of the world is very powerful. it be very humbling. it's it can be very humbling. it's very when very emotional, actually, when you but if

you hear them speaking. but if they are coming to speak for humanity, to say this , you know, humanity, to say this, you know, don't sides, all it don't pick sides, all of it matters, surely need to matters, then we surely need to stand alongside them and give them that space to do that, which is what we're doing today. we faith leaders we also have faith leaders coming from the different faiths and lanterns and we're lighting lanterns later on as a sort of symbolic act together. so it's going to be a very special afternoon. >> thank you both so much for joining and hope all joining us. and i hope it all goes well. you . goes really well. thank you. thank as the lady said, thank you. so as the lady said, this vigil starts at 3 pm. various speakers and the site, as they describe that we expect to see at the end with all the lanterns being lit, showing support and solidarity. it should be a really special thing to be able to witness. >> that's lovely, lisa. thank you very much for that very heartwarming report . let's lisa heartwarming report. let's lisa hartle our gb news reporter there joint vigil for our there at the joint vigil for our for peace and thinking about all those dying in the horrific conflict in the middle east on both sides . now, we woke up this both sides. now, we woke up this morning to a terror attack in

france , didn't we, where sadly, france, didn't we, where sadly, a german tourist have lost their lives . but what about security lives. but what about security in our country? the met police has warned people to be vigilant about terror attacks in the uk . about terror attacks in the uk. security sources have directly told gb news it is likely only a matter of time . joining me now matter of time. joining me now is former head of counter—terrorism for the ministry of defence chip chapman. mr chapman, thank you very much for joining chapman. mr chapman, thank you very much forjoining us again this afternoon . obviously this afternoon. obviously a horrible story from paris overnight . what do you make, overnight. what do you make, first of the events that have taken place in paris? well let's do a comparison between the two countries to begin with. >> so the french alert state their threat terror level is a lot higher than ours because there was a fatal attack on the 13th of october in arras and two foiled attacks. >> and that led the french to putting their alert state to

what they call emergency attack level. is the highest level. that is the highest state, the same as the uk critical. so level one in a uk term . now we are still at level term. now we are still at level three substantial. an attack is likely be not an attack is highly likely , which would be highly likely, which would be severe, nor an attack is imminent, which would be critical all the same as the french have. so there is a comparison between the two, which is slightly different at the moment . which is slightly different at the moment. so we which is slightly different at the moment . so we have to be the moment. so we have to be careful. there the similarities, of course, are that this chap had been in prison before. he'd beenin had been in prison before. he'd been in prison for four years and he had mental health issues. so the similarities in the uk are really threefold . the first are really threefold. the first one is that how do we manage mental health? because about a third of people who commit terrorist attacks do have mental health problems. and indeed, one of the things which led to the threat level being raised previously in the uk in november 21st was the liverpool attack alongside the sir david amess attack. the liverpool attack ultimately with the this year a

couple of months ago was not deemed to be a terrorist attack. it was deemed to be both a combination of grievance and grievance and mental health. the second thing we need to look at is how we manage. recently released prisoners. because this chap was released in 2020 and the british counter—terrorist strategy new strategy in which came out in july this year, did say that four of the nine declared attacks in 2018 have were perpetrated by by serving or recently released prisoners . or recently released prisoners. and we'll all remember that the fishmongers hall attack, for example , was at a rehabilitation example, was at a rehabilitation event. and the third thing this guy was only jailed for four years. he went on to kill someone. that also is the case in the uk . just because you get in the uk. just because you get a short prison sentence and most of those in the uk are between 1 and 4 years doesn't mean that you're not going to commit a capital crime ultimately. and again, we saw that very similar

to the french attack with the stretham attack in february 2020 when someone had just been released from a sentence which was four years. >> one thing that is very similar, i mean, the attacker in the paris case was on an. s file, which means he should have been under surveillance. obviously that surveillance wasn't very good. now, we have also had examples of this in this country. the westminster bridge attack was also . so the bridge attack was also. so the attacker in that case was meant to be under surveillance. i mean , how well is this surveillance working? because it doesn't seem to be doing its job in france and it doesn't seem to have done its in country . its job in this country. >> the stretham attacker , >> well, the stretham attacker, who i mentioned was actually under innate surveillance, which is he was shot very quickly. is why he was shot very quickly. but to look at the but you have to look at the scale of the are called the scale of the what are called the subjects of interest and close subjects of interest and close subjects of interest and close subjects of interest. those subjects of interest. so those who subjects of interest at who are subjects of interest at any one time, those who are part of investigations and there are over 800 investigations, is something like 3000 people now ,

something like 3000 people now, intimate surveillance, intrusive surveillance only takes place on the real top priority. one alpha people, that is those involved in attack planning . the in attack planning. the difficulty is that you've got these self—initiated terrorists . these self—initiated terrorists. thatis these self—initiated terrorists. that is the name, the new nomenclature for lone actors who can at a moment go from a posture of being ideological and radical into an attack. they're the really difficult ones to stop . it is quite easy to stop stop. it is quite easy to stop plots where you have lots of people involved. it is a very difficult to stop those who might be inspired. now, one of the things again about this case in is that he said that he had a grievance against both the bombing in gaza and afghanistan. thatis bombing in gaza and afghanistan. that is shows he's probably got problems because the west has not been in afghanistan for over two years. and most most of the killings in afghanistan are by islamic state khorasan, which kills both a sunni. the taliban and shia muslims, because

they're deemed to be apostate by esque in that country . esque in that country. >> chip, just one final. we're running out of time. unfortunately i could talk to you for a long time about this. just one for people listening and watching now going about their festive business. want to go shopping, want to go , you go shopping, want to go, you know, sort of out and about, see friends and family. what advice would you give them? how worried should they be? >> well, be vigilant if you think something's untoward and then report it to the police . then report it to the police. but terrorism is still a very rare event. there have been six people killed in the uk since 2018. so about one a year last yearin 2018. so about one a year last year in europe there were four people killed, two in jihadi attacks, two in right wing extremism attacks. it is still a rare event . so go and enjoy rare event. so go and enjoy events, but be be aware of what's taking place around you . what's taking place around you. and if you think anything is untoward, then please report it. that's brilliant. >> thank you very much. that's chip chapman, former head of counter—terrorism at the mod

there. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon, chip. appreciate you are appreciate your time. if you are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news with me , dawn news sunday with me, dawn neesom, lots more coming up on today's . it's been reported today's show. it's been reported that the eu could be about to weaponize energy as revenge for britain exit. yeah, the b word. but first, here's the news with aaron armstrong . aaron armstrong. >> it's 231. aaron armstrong here in the newsroom. a police have confirmed a death in freezing conditions after the body of a man was found in a car in nottingham describing the incident as tragic. they say they're the they're investigating the circumstances but aren't treating it as suspicious . ice. treating it as suspicious. ice. meanwhile, 2500 people are without power in cumbria as snow andice without power in cumbria as snow and ice continues to cause problems across the county. electricity north—west says they're struggling to reach sections of the damaged network. they're warning that services may not be restored until late tonight . may not be restored until late tonight. man's been killed and two people, including a british

tourist, were injured in a knife and hammer attack in paris. tourist, were injured in a knife and hammer attack in paris . as and hammer attack in paris. as you've just been hearing, it happened near the eiffel tower last night in what the french president has described as a terrorist attack. officials have confirmed was confirmed the man who died was a german tourist, a 26 year old french national who was sentenced to four years in prison in 2016 for planning another attack has been arrested . an extra £15 million will reportedly be given to rwanda as part of a stop the boats treaty. that's on top of the £140 million already received from the uk to take asylum seekers. the sunday times says the government is trying to secure a deal which will see migrants who cross channel illegally also cross the channel illegally also being to the east african being sent to the east african country. tributes being country. and tributes are being paid to baroness kinnock, who's died at the age of 79. the family of the former minister mep and the wife of the ex—labour leader, lord kinnock, says she was a proud democratic socialist who campaigned for justice and against poverty all her life. she was diagnosed with

alzheimer's in 2017. sir keir starmer's described her as a pioneering woman and a true fighter for the labour party . fighter for the labour party. well, more news at the top of the next hour, or you can get more on our website now. gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you, aaron. welcome back to gb news sunday. with me dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now it's been reported that the eu could been reported that the eu could be about to weaponize energy as revenge for cover your ears. if you're a sensitive nature. brexit according to the daily express, meps have argued that there should be no further cuts to eu boats in uk fishing waters and have called for a reciprocal access to be maintained after 30th of june 2026, according to the paper. an official report from the european parliament says the eu should consider linking the uk's access to

european electricity market to the eu. eu, uk trade and cooperation agreement. it's very complicated this isn't it? joining me now to make it much simpler , hopefully is the former simpler, hopefully is the former leader of ukip , henry bolton. leader of ukip, henry bolton. henry thank you very much for joining joining me this afternoon . can you explain afternoon. can you explain what's going on here? there's lots of facts and figures involved. >> yeah, there are. and you've just said it's very complicated. >> it is. but look back when we negotiated the trade and cooperation agreement with the european union, all part of sort of our breaking clean of the eu fisheries was obviously a part of that and there was an agreement in that that by june 30th of june 2026, the uk in a phased manner , not all at once phased manner, not all at once would take back 25% of the access that eu fishing boats had to uk or fish in uk waters. >> hopefully that's i've got that fairly sort of clear simply

explained . explained. >> so 2020 by 20 2026, we should have taken back 25% of the eu's fishing quota of the fish that they caught in the, in british waters. now what this report from the european union , from from the european union, from the european parliament says is that after after that date , the that after after that date, the 30th of june, 2026, they do not want any further reduction in the eu's fishing quota in british waters. >> and if that were to happen, they suggest that the eu then cuts access to uk electorate to eu electricity supplies . so eu electricity supplies. so that's a sort of blackmailing position. i would call it . it that's a sort of blackmailing position. i would call it. it is a way of trying to punish us if we try to take more of that fish, those fish back to our own control. >> now the thing is that after that date there is supposed to be a review every four years of the agreement. >> and in that review , of

>> and in that review, of course, the uk could say, well, actually we want to take another 5, another 10, another 30% or whatever it might be to prevent that. this is what the european parliament is saying and that the eu should say, well, if you try that, we're going to say , try that, we're going to say, well, you do that and we will cut your access to european union electricity , which at the union electricity, which at the moment i think is around about 7% of our electricity is sourced from the european union. it goes up and down. and we were recently a net exporter , later recently a net exporter, later to the european union. but but that was only for a quarter. generally speaking, we import electricity from the european union. we to an extent union. we are to an extent reliant on it. and that then of course fisheries our course links fisheries to our our power generation in this country and if we are insisting a different matter, i know, but it is connected in this way. if we insist on going down net zero as fast as the government wants to, then of course that undermines our ability to generate our own electricity in

a rapid manner and make ourselves energy independent and thereby ourselves immune to thereby make ourselves immune to any of these sort of threats . any of these sort of threats. does that make sense? >> it makes perfect sense. i mean , the bottom line is how mean, the bottom line is how long are they going to carry on punishing us for breakfast? brexit for breakfast, dodi breakfast, brexit. it's been a long day. >> yeah. yeah yeah. >> yeah. yeah yeah. >> the it's going to carry on. look, there are other areas in which they are doing precisely the same thing. for example , eu the same thing. for example, eu sorry, european airline pilots who are qualified in the uk have to have precisely the same qualification. that's precisely the same standards. even some of the same standards. even some of the forms that they have to fill out are precisely the same as those that a european union pilot or a pilot flying in the eu is required to have . pilot or a pilot flying in the eu is required to have. up until we left the european union in those sort of qualifications , those sort of qualifications, those sort of qualifications, those were absolutely mutually respected as they are between the eu and the united states,

which we also we've got we've got common standards between us, the eu, the united states, the uk , the pilots now have to do uk, the uk pilots now have to do additional tests, additional qualifications on top of those that were already required. that is a punishment we are suffering now where i've got a problem with this is not that it was unexpected. those of us who've worked in the depths of the european union, as i have, know perfectly well that this is how the organisation there operates . the organisation there operates. it is authoritarian, it is prepared to use these strong arm tactics . well, we should be tactics. well, we should be countering that with equally strong arm tactics . we have the strong arm tactics. we have the gravitas politically in terms of foreign affairs, in terms of defence and economically to do so. but we've got a government that isn't entirely wedded to the concept of british india attendance, and that i think is attendance, and that i think is a fundamental weakness that we have. we've got a government that should have stood up for fishers, fisheries , they haven't fishers, fisheries, they haven't . the under ten metre fishing fleet, dawn , not the big boats,

fleet, dawn, not the big boats, but the ones that you see in small harbours around the coastline, like in folkestone where i come from, are being utterly decimated by this. the agreement that exists means that they are having to sell their boats. they cannot operate. they're in a worse situation than before brexit and that is something that is entirely down to our own government and its own policies in this regard. >> henry, thank you so much for explaining and being so explaining that and being so passionate about it as well. that's boulton there, that's henry boulton there, former leader. thank you former ukip leader. thank you very much explaining the latest punishment evidently punishment for brexit, evidently . so i mean, you know, coming back to the panel on this one there, coming to you there, david, coming to you first. basically with being first. so basically with being too soft on the eu, still we need to stand up and fight for ourselves more with the deal that we back in the days of that we got back in the days of bons that we got back in the days of boris johnson when he was prime minister brexit anyway. >> and think, know, i'd >> and i think, you know, i'd agree henry bolton on that. agree with henry bolton on that. we should have left with no deal and then we would been in a and then we would have been in a position to say taking position to say we're taking back control our fishing back full control of our fishing waters our fishing to our

waters and our fishing up to our 200 exclusive economic 200 mile exclusive economic zone. point we zone. from the point that we left, didn't do that. there left, we didn't do that. there were kinds of things there left, we didn't do that. there were left kinds of things there left, we didn't do that. there were left ouris of things there left, we didn't do that. there were left our country�*ngs there left, we didn't do that. there were left our country basically that left our country basically beholden to the dictates of the eu. when we should come out eu. when we should have come out and full independence. i and got full independence. i mean, ireland is in mean, northern ireland is in a dreadful situation because they have contend you obeying some have to contend you obeying some of and regulations . of the rules and regulations. our industry, of course, our fishing industry, of course, and then we agreed to what's called a level playing field on environment and climate issues, which that we have to stay which means that we have to stay in the paris climate agreement and we have to go towards net zero. and if we come out of that, then the eu have the right to take economic sanctions against us. it's a dreadful situation . situation. >> ian so erin, brexit hasn't worked. it can never work. so let's just rejoin the eu . let's just rejoin the eu. >> well, brexit can work. that's probably something i do agree with. keir starmer on. strange, strange. very odd strange bedfellows. there what i would say is there's a few deeper questions here. so on the nature of the deal, it was a bad deal.

this oven ready brexit deal. we heard in 2019 the media utterly failed to scrutinise that for a bunch of reasons. now, as somebody who's at somebody who's coming at this from left, why, why they from the left, why, why they were more focussed on jeremy corbyn, they are more focussed on wrangling and on internal labour wrangling and the of boris the political theatre of boris johnson the wall. so johnson and the red wall. so actually a substantive conversation about what does this deal mean for british citizens, for british tax payers, for british businesses, the real meat of that general election actually was ignored for a bunch of pretty garnishing on top . then second to that, on top. then second to that, john redwood said, we're going to have to become more self—sufficient with energy generation we generation in this country. we absolutely but that's going absolutely are. but that's going to a bigger role for the to require a bigger role for the state. market isn't going to state. the market isn't going to do that. prefer more do that. now. i prefer more wind, solar, more nuclear. wind, more solar, more nuclear. the tories have failed on onshore wind. they banned that after 2011. completely after 2011. they've completely failed nuclear, probably failed on nuclear, probably something can it's something we can agree it's probably nuclear. david right. yeah, but even if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink but even if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink i but even if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink i just but even if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink i just want even if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink i just want gasn if probably nuclear. david right. yeaithink i just want gas and you think i just want gas and oil, they're delivering that oil, they're not delivering that enhen oil, they're not delivering that either. quite clear to either. so it's quite clear to me that on two counts here on self sufficiency of energy and

actually delivering a deal actually on delivering a deal that works for blue collar britain, the conservatives have really failed here. >> no, i'm glad you say self sufficiency and energy. that is actually a section in our manifesto of the heritage party which these main political parties are not dealing with at all. we are becoming dependent on other countries. we were dependent on russia for a while and now we're dependent on norway. we're dependent on france for electricity to come over from their nuclear power stations. if we're not generating enough energy ourselves, we need more nuclear, small, modular nuclear power stations. i would disagree with you on wind and solar, but i think we need to rebuild our coal and oil and gas infrastructure for what this government has been doing . government has been doing. they've actually been celebrating, blowing up our coal power stations , literally. the power stations, literally. the old business secretary alok sharma, was seen pressing a button and detonating ferrybridge coal power station so that is the reason why the eu can now blackmail us and say,

well, you not creating, you're not generating enough energy of your own if you don't do what we want, we're going to punish you and stop you from having access to our electricity and therefore the lights could go out. so this government has been a complete disaster. we need to increase our energy generation and get back control of our fishing waters. >> excellent , lee said. they're >> excellent, lee said. they're fine talk indeed. if only we could do that. actually in, you know, i mean, if you believe if you believe keir starmer in the telegraph today, he's actually got more fighting talk than rishi sunak. but who knows? we'll find out at the election , we'll find out at the election, won't we? and of course, lots more coming up, including more stuff coming up, including yes , eating bits of kangaroo yes, eating bits of kangaroo itv's i'm a celebrity . get me itv's i'm a celebrity. get me out of here has been forced to apologise after they accidentally liked a hateful comment on instagram whilst scrolling down through viewer posts. well what's that about ? posts. well what's that about? i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news britain's view channel.

this evening. gb news the people's . people's. channel >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now i'm a celebrity yes, we go into the jungle. i'm a celeb, has issued an apology after accidentally liking a comment on instagram . um that comment on instagram. um that was hateful towards a

controversial campmate nella rose. the channel said they seek to champion all of their campmates and encourage audience members to be kinder on social media. good luck with that one. right. joining me now is entertainment reporter judah dasilva to explain what this story is about. now, jessica , story is about. now, jessica, thank you very much for joining me. and forgive me, i'm not familiar with this story. so what has happened here? >> so nella rose is a youtuber, very big on social media, had a great following, which has led to the her career skyrocketing and obviously earned her a place on i'm a celebrity since she's been there. >> if you think of it as in the tapestry of people in the jungle, she represents the social media empowered gen z, very outspoken and very opinionated. >> and she's confident to let everyone know exactly where she stands on things. she clashed with a with fred , who's the host with a with fred, who's the host on the first dates show. he's

very popular. that then got about 861 complaints to ofcom and began this kind of negative tone towards her. so although she's a popular social media personality , they didn't like personality, they didn't like the way in which she clashed with fred. then there was a comment that was placed under a post of her on the i'm a celebrity account and it said something dispatch ing about her appearance . and then the host of appearance. and then the host of the account i'm a celebrity liked it. then viewers noticed this and commented and then they the backlash kind of spiralled after that. and they had to issue an apology. but what the opinion divided has been is people feel that there's a negative sway two against nella rose because people have already turned their opinions against her because she clashed with fred. then she had an argument with nigel farage, and they feel that it's kind of the people who find gen z annoying find her a kind of she's a sacrificial lamb for those kinds of opinions . and

for those kinds of opinions. and that's been the tone of the disparity between those who are for and those who are against. when it comes to nella rose. >> the thing is with nella, i mean, what i do know about nella, i mean, she's she's only 26, isn't she? so she's, she's, she's huge following, as she's young, huge following, as you say, on social media. but but this huge but she's got this huge personality well, she? personality as well, hasn't she? judyta you know, and the thing you need with reality shows is you need with reality shows is you need with reality shows is you need big personalities , you need big personalities, whether you like them or not. it's marmite, isn't it? but you care about them and people care about nella . so, i mean, the about nella. so, i mean, the fact that sort of like, you know, people are putting these, i think frankly vile comments read between the lines of what you've said her means they you've said about her means they are does mean are caring. so does that mean even though this was really negative, does mean she's negative, does it mean she's it's improving her chances, do you think, actually staying you think, of actually staying in possibly even in and actually possibly even winning ? winning? >> that is the that is the magic of television these days, because when you think about it, it's clicks are what are most are the currency of the day. and nella rose generates clicks whether you're for her, whether

you're against her, the worst thing you can have in a season of i'm a celebrity is someone who is middle of the road or tepid. you want someone that who is middle of the road or tepicayou want someone that who is middle of the road or tepica reaction someone that who is middle of the road or tepica reaction from zone that who is middle of the road or tepica reaction from they that gets a reaction from the audience. and definitely audience. and nella definitely gets who don't like gets that. people who don't like her want to voice their opinion. people who then want to support her because of that negative opinion come out in force. so that's when you get social media engagements traction. engagements and traction. so from view , nella rose from a cynical view, nella rose is the ideal candidate to put in the jungle. and like you said, with a big personality that translates to entertainment, entertaining television , whether entertaining television, whether you like it or not. >> i'm going to put you on the line now. okay. who do you think's going to win? on my god. >> i think might win. but you know, the strange thing, i'm one of those really naughty people where i would like someone controversial to win because it would be such a wonderful talking point. so nella or dare even it's nigel farage. go even say it's nigel farage. go for it. it would be so entertaining . nigel farage entertaining. nigel farage winning would really make me laugh . laugh. >> it would be controversial,

wouldn't it ? judy da silva, wouldn't it? judy da silva, thank you so much for joining wouldn't it? judy da silva, thank you so much forjoining us this afternoon with everything everything you wanted to know about that jungle and how can we keep nigel in the jungle? evidently yet there you go. online. now make nigel king of the jungle. well, there you go . the jungle. well, there you go. that all right? if you . yeah, that all right? if you. yeah, you can go to our website with all the details on there and i think the voting starts tonight at first eviction in fact the voting is going on now you can tell i'm watching this. i'm going to ask my panel about this in a minute because i was clueless as i am about this one. in any case, i think there's an eviction tonight. so yeah, to eviction tonight. so yeah, go to the website or the details about how can vote and you haven't how you can vote and you haven't got a phone and vote. i think you on an app as well, you can vote on an app as well, which means cheap, right? which means it's cheap, right? okay. right. okay. right okay. i've very space i've got very short space of time the panel about time to talk to the panel about this and they're really this and they're both really deeply disappointed they deeply disappointed because they are this one, are both experts on this one, aren't yes. aren't they? uh, aaron, yes. come on. yeah. okay. he was

going to. he was going to win the jungle then. >> well, i think the idea of farage winning is obviously humorous, but also he's, he seems a funny game seems to be playing a funny game because he's almost like because he's he's almost like a vanilla what's gone vanilla character. what's gone wrong farage when he's wrong for brand farage when he's in the and he's not the in the jungle and he's not the most figure , he most controversial figure, he needs his game . needs to up his game. >> but is it because they are >> ah but is it because they are not giving enough airtime time? >> david look, i'm sorry. i don't watch him. i'm a celebrity in the jungle. i have no interest in it whatsoever. i mean, obviously , i know nigel mean, obviously, i know nigel farage is here, so of all the people i've heard of it, i would like him to win. but these are the people. i mean, nella rose, i've never heard of her. the people. i mean, nella rose, i'vel�*never heard of her. the people. i mean, nella rose, i'vei mean, eard of her. the people. i mean, nella rose, i'vei mean, she'syf her. the people. i mean, nella rose, i'vei mean, she's a her. the people. i mean, nella rose, i'vei mean, she's a social media >> i mean, she's a social media influencer. >> so is she. oh, wonderful. okay great. >> i'll look i know >> i'll look her up. i know someone who does know more about this any us. to be this than any of us. to be honest with you. and is the honest with you. and that is the lovely nana who is joining us next. thank for next. nana, thank you for joining us. you are coming up with a brilliant show after this one. what you reckon? come one. what do you reckon? come on, call it. who's going to win the jungle this year? well, it's

got obviously. got to be nigel, obviously. i mean, i wouldn't watch thing mean, i wouldn't watch the thing if it was if he wasn't in it. i think the reason why he's looking is because looking vanilla is because they're him but they're editing him out. but then, of course, you on that then, of course, you go on that show and you're at the mercy of the editors. but show, the editors. but on my show, you're my mercy. because you're at my mercy. because coming up on my show, i've got ben and peter edwards. ben habib and peter edwards. they're going head they're going to be going head to head. >> we're going to talking >> we're going to be talking about to be going well. >> he appears to be going well. >> he appears to be going well. >> he's turning more to the right as and he's suddenly saying how wonderful margaret thatcher to grab the right >> he's trying to grab the right vote. but do you think that it's convincing or is he just complete flip flop? starmer also, monologue. also, i've got my monologue. >> be talking about cop 28, >> i'll be talking about cop 28, which i think will green. >> colour of money, >> it's the colour of money, obviously. brilliant. thank you very much. don't anywhere. very much. don't go anywhere. nana's real nana's coming up with a real cracking for you. that's it cracking show for you. that's it from nana is up from me, i'm afraid. nana is up next. i've just don't go next. i've just said don't go anywhere. a good show you anywhere. a really good show you have been watching and listening to me. dawn to gb news thunder with me. dawn neesom rest of neesom have a lovely rest of your but join nana coming your day, but join nana coming up soon. you for up very soon. thank you for watching. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of

weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glaisyer. it's been a cloudier and wetter day across the southern half of the uk. a bit of a change to what we've seen recently. this is all due to an area of low pressure situated out towards the southwest, slowly its way towards us slowly moving its way towards us through the rest today and through the rest of today and into this will bring into tomorrow. this will bring outbreaks of showery rain and cloud larger area of band cloud and a larger area of band of rain pushing its way up from the overnight tonight the southwest overnight tonight and into tomorrow morning. there's likely to bring some quite heavy rainfall totals , quite heavy rainfall totals, particularly to parts of southwest england and south wales and could turn wales as well, and could turn wintry across the hills of wales. midlands into wales. the midlands and into parts northern england parts of northern england through a drier parts of northern england throcolder a drier parts of northern england throcolder night a drier parts of northern england throcolder night again a drier parts of northern england throcolder night again acrossirier but colder night again across parts northern and parts of northern ireland and scotland, dropping down scotland, perhaps dropping down to —5 or —6. a milder start across the southwest, though, particularly under all that cloud and rain. it will cloud and rain. and it will slowly to spread its slowly continue to spread its way eastwards as we way north and eastwards as we head day on monday,

head through the day on monday, perhaps some perhaps causing some some disruption during the morning rush a drier and brighter rush hour. a drier and brighter day again across northern ireland, of western ireland, parts of western scotland there'll scotland where there'll be plenty through the plenty of sunshine through the afternoon, but some showers pushing those eastern pushing in along those eastern coasts of scotland. another cold day north. day across the north. temperatures low single temperatures in the low single figures, milder again across figures, but milder again across the south—west under that the south—west under all that cloud rain tuesday starts cloud and rain. tuesday starts another cloudy and damp picture for much of england and wales. but rain hill, hill, snow and sleet slowly clears way sleet slowly clears its way south and eastwards through the day will lead to a drier day that will lead to a drier and brighter for most of us and brighter day for most of us on wednesday, colder, on wednesday, but colder, however week, however, later in the week, further windy weather further wet and windy weather arrives, milder for arrives, but turning milder for all warm feeling inside all that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> hello. good afternoon. it's 3:00. >> welcome to gb news on tv, onune >> welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this is all about opinion . this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it says. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating , discussing, and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from journalist danny kelly and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. in a few moments time , we'll be going few moments time, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds