well . well. >> it's 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. i'm leo kearse, in for marc, who's off with the family bereavement. unfortunately, all of us gb news are sending love and prayers to marc his family. comes up marc and his family. comes up this hour in a shocking new development. it's been reported that whitehall civil servants are trying to block the rwanda plan. when did policing our borders become so controversial? more on this national scandal shortly . our mark meets guest shortly. our mark meets guest savile served a harrowing hostage ordeal in 1976 after a plane he was travelling on was hijacked by palestinian terrorist s benny davidson joins us to tell his story live from israel. and in the big story,

should king charles strip the sussexes of the royal titles ? sussexes of the royal titles? i'll be joined in the studio by fearless royal commentator angela levin and the silence from the sussexes over the royal race allegations is deafening. harry needs to speak out and defend his dad and fast because if not, there's no way back for the prodigal . prince so two the prodigal. prince so two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. i'll see you after the news with ray addison. >> thanks, leo. good evening . >> thanks, leo. good evening. here's the latest from the newsroom . some 1500 properties newsroom. some 1500 properties in cumbria are still without electricity after heavy snow caused power cuts . electricity caused power cuts. electricity north—west says that repairs are continuing following significant damage to the network, with engineers battling treacherous

conditions. weather warnings for snow and ice remain in place for many parts of the uk. snow and ice remain in place for many parts of the uk . earlier many parts of the uk. earlier on, police confirmed that the body of a man had been found in a car in nottingham. well it's been announced that the foreign secretary will travel to the united states next week to meet secretary of state antony blinken. lord cameron will travel to washington on december 6th as part of efforts to de—escalate tensions in the middle east. he'll also meet with republican and democratic members of congress. with republican and democratic members of congress . the british members of congress. the british owned cargo vessel has reportedly been hit by at least two drones, while in the red sea near yemen . the pentagon says near yemen. the pentagon says it's also aware of reports regarding attacks on an american warship in the same area. yemeni houthis say they've been targeting two israeli vessels . targeting two israeli vessels. israel's military says the ships had no connection to them . had no connection to them. commuters had been facing a second day of travel chaos as

train drivers staged continued with their strike today. aslef union members launched a series of walk outs in their dispute over pay . great northern over pay. great northern thameslink and avanti west coast trains were all cancelled . trains were all cancelled. chiltern railways and west midlands railway services were also affected . a suspect in the also affected. a suspect in the killing of a german tourist in paris pledged allegiance to islamic state before attacking tourists in central paris . the tourists in central paris. the prosecutor says the 26 year old made the comment in a video posted to social media. two other people, including a british tourist, were injured when they were attacked with a knife and a hammer near the eiffel tower. the suspect was sentenced to four years in prison for planning another attack attack in 2016 . well, in attack attack in 2016. well, in the us, four people, including two children, have been killed following a stabbing at a home in new york. two police officers were also attacked before shooting. the suspect said to be

a family member. he's now deceased. patrick hendry is president of the nyc police benevolent association . benevolent association. >> this scene was chaos. multiple victims. a house on fire and a madman gone on a rampage on a mission. and thank full that these police officers showed up. imagine what could have happened if these police officers weren't there. this madman tried to kill after he killed others . a new york city killed others. a new york city police officer . the skill that police officer. the skill that this police officer had shooting and stopping the threat after he was being stabbed . was being stabbed. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to . leo

let's get straight back to. leo >> thank you, ray . welcome to >> thank you, ray. welcome to mark dolan tonight with me, leo kearse. in a shocking new development, it's been reported that whitehall civil servants are trying to block the rwanda plan. when did policing our borders become so controversial ? borders become so controversial? well, more on this national scandal shortly. and in the big story, should king charles strip the sussexes of the royal titles? i'll be joined in the studio by fearless royal commentator angela levin. our mark meets guest is a survivor of a hostage ordeal back in 1976, bannau davidson joins us live from israel to tell us his remarkable story. and coming up at ten, the silence from the sussexes over royal race. allegations is deafening. harry needs to speak out and defend his dad and fast because if not, there's no way back for the prodigal prince. and as he praises margaret thatcher, could backing the iron lady be a vote winner for keir starmer? i'll be asking a woman who knew her well, former government minister

ann widdecombe. and we've got tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 pm. with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. tonight, we've got writer and broadcaster emma webb and former labour mp simon danczuk. and joining us later on is the leader of ukip, neil hamilton . leader of ukip, neil hamilton. and tonight, i'll be asking the punstis and tonight, i'll be asking the pundits is the latest i'm a celebrity the perfect storm for nigel farage to re—enter mainstream politics. and this show has a golden rule . we don't show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. let's crack . on hours to come. let's crack. on the telegraph reported today that civil servants are attempting to block the latest plans to dim rwanda, a safe country to send asylum seekers to. sources claim that whitehall feels institutionally bound to raise concerns about proposals calls to abandon elements of the

human rights act from the rwanda scheme. and despite being unelected , unaccountable and unelected, unaccountable and supposedly impartial, what's the point in any government if it can't even control who comes in and out of the country? is it time for these whitehall wingers to butt out of politics? yes. let's get the thoughts of tonight's top pundits, writer and broadcaster emma webb and former labour mp simon danczuk. emma, what do you what do you make of this? i mean, because we hear a lot of talk about the woke blob, you know, the civil service and pretty much everybody in the establishment media, the stymie ricci's efforts. i mean, i'm not sure he's made that much of an effort, but stymie rishi sunak efforts to get the rwanda plan working. well i am shocked. >> the civil service seems to have bias against solving the problem. >> we've seen recently. actually, the telegraph published this whistleblower from within the civil service who was basically making the same point. i think it's very clear we saw it with brexit. we're seeing it now with

immigration. i don't buy the excuses that actually the civil servants are just offering their impartial legal advice. i think the government is facing a number of challenges. i think that the civil service face and it's biased is clearly an obstruction to that . but i think obstruction to that. but i think fundamentally the problem is the political will and the political will of the political will of the conservatives. well, of the conservative parties leadership, i think if they really wanted to solve this, they could find a way to they're not way to do it. they're not willing to take the steps and to take the risks in to order execute the will of the british people. there are a lot of it seems to be the criticism that's coming from people like coming from from people like suella braverman. coming from from people like sueyeah. averman. coming from from people like sueand |. averman. coming from from people like sueand there man. coming from from people like sueand there are . lot of >> and there are a lot of conservative mps who are pushing back and are back against this and who are making this is making the point that this is going to and actually we're already seeing tanking. already seeing it is tanking. the conservatives in polls the conservatives in the polls and need to execute the conservatives in the polls andwill need to execute the conservatives in the polls andwill of need to execute the conservatives in the polls andwill of rbritish execute the conservatives in the polls andwill of rbritish people. the will of the british people. and there's a problem and i think there's a problem within civil service of and within the civil service of and obviously this isn't all civil

servants, certainly servants, but certainly there are are politicise and are some who are politicise and i think there is a concern that they are not behaving as civil servants. they are not doing their their sort of duty to serve the government. and implement the government's policies and being impartial . policies and being impartial. and i think that is a real concern of the british public that the government should probably investigate. >> do you think this is this is fear? i mean, the civil fear? because i mean, the civil service are really there to provide ballast in in provide ballast in the in the ship being veered too ship to stop it being veered too far off course by by different, different political parties. >> yeah, but i think what we're seeing in sue gray is a perfect example that there example of this, is that there is bias within civil is a bias within the civil service favours labour service which favours labour rather than the conservatives . rather than the conservatives. so when you have a conservative government, harder them government, it's harder for them to legislation an to enact their legislation an even though they've won by a big majority and public are majority and the public are clearly them, clearly behind them, particularly rwanda particularly on the rwanda policy. yeah, i think we are inevitably have to move towards a more american style of civil service where we have senior

political appointees put in place to run departments. we can't carry on with the situation as we've currently got. and the home office is a particular case in point. it's not fit for purpose in terms of this story. i think it's fascinating thing. and it is. you're exactly right. it's about the will of the conservative leadership. and if you look at it, there's a big discussion in the piece about whether they go for semi—skimmed for more semi—skimmed legislation or a full fat legislate . and the moderates in legislate. and the moderates in the conservative party are going for semi—skimmed just tinkering with the rwanda policy, which i support by the way. and then those said to be on the right, i would call them realists. s are saying we should go for full fat, a really strong piece of legislation. we've already legislated for this once and it's not worked. need full it's not worked. we need full fat legislate action that gets this taken off and the truth is sunak has no political advantage by sunak has no political advantage by not delivering the rwandan policy, he only gains by delivering the full fat rwandan

policy. >> this is what i was going to say. i mean, it seems to be it's going to lead to absolute catastrophe at the polls. if theyif catastrophe at the polls. if they if they don't enact it. >> yeah , it's a total joke >> yeah, it's a total joke because you look at the situation and the way that this has unfolded, like you say, it's already through courts. already gone through the courts. the said on really the courts have said on really a technicality fact that technicality the fact that rwanda is not it's not that there's issue with there's an issue with with sending refugees or sending these refugees or they're applying for refugee status to a third country. it's that rwanda is not considered a safe country, even though i think that there are others who do process refugees . so i think do process refugees. so i think even the un have some. so obviously rwanda, rwanda is an extremely dangerous country or anything like that. so this has already gone through the legal process. it's taking so long. meanwhile, this is actually an urgent situation. it's a national security risk. and if you have a government that isn't, can you imagine with the way that things operate now, what that would look like during wartime, for example , we are not

wartime, for example, we are not able to respond to urgent situations that need to be nipped in the bud. now, this has been going on well since 2014. in 2015, and it's been getting worse and worse and worse. and despite the fact that the even on on those issues that are not related to rwanda and like going back to the point about political will and the number of visas being given to people coming to this country have gone up under this government, which is absurd. when we know that time and time again when polls old and at the ballot box, the british people want to reduce immigration. so it's completely nuts in terms of sort of their approach to winning the next general election. >> so you do you think our government should just just cast echr to the side? i know i know the supreme court in this in this country has stymied it as well. but with echr being the one of the stumbling blocks, it would be a big vote winner. >> i really do think they have to be very radical on this. i'm

not sure that rishi sunak has the stomach to do it, but they have to show show some radicalness of these radicalness in terms of these issues. about issues. there's no doubt about it. rwanda, my wife it. in terms of rwanda, my wife is rwanda and we have a home in rwanda. it's an exceptionally safe country, i might add . i'd safe country, i might add. i'd rather children. i'd rather bring my children. i'd feel secure safe feel more secure and safe bringing them up in rwanda than i would in parts of the united kingdom. idea of not kingdom. so the idea of not being to send people there, being able to send people there, it's just nonsense. it really is i >> -- >> yeah. i mean, people have spoken of the risk of refoulement , so people being refoulement, so people being sent back their refoulement, so people being sent countries. back their refoulement, so people being sent countries. butack their refoulement, so people being sent countries. but but their refoulement, so people being sent countries. but but tian home countries. but but it's an insane statistic that showed that a huge proportion, if something between thirds something is between two thirds and three quarters of asylum seekers are returned to their to their home country on holiday , their home country on holiday, thatis their home country on holiday, that is if it's so dangerous, if you can't go back there, why are you can't go back there, why are you going going there on holiday? it's almost as if the asylum isn't fit for asylum system isn't fit for purpose and is being gamed by, you by people who just you know, by people who just want to here as migrants. >> this is the thing. we >> but this is the thing. we know that there are people who are taking the mick. we know it.

we see there was a video we even see there was a video going on social media today of somebody been put i somebody who'd been put up, i think in a hotel making it think in a in a hotel making it rain with the money he was earning side. hustle earning on his side. hustle whilst being put up at the taxpayers and we've taxpayers expense. and we've got children who are british citizens. are from british citizens. they are from british families. they were born here who are not living suitable who are not living in suitable housing. meanwhile we're putting people up in nice accommodation in whether be in hotels or on in whether it be in hotels or on barges or whatever. so this is a huge taxpayer expense. we know people are taking the mick and we know that the law is open to abuse. and the whole idea behind human rights law, like it's historical roots, it's, you know , it's about protecting people. >> and it wasn't built for this interconnected world where you can jump on a on a cheap flight or jump can jump on a on a cheap flight orjump on something that can jump on a on a cheap flight or jump on something that floats and across the channel and come across the channel >> but it's it also relies it relies on a high trust society city. and people behave in good faith. these are not there faith. and these are not there are people are not behaving are people who are not behaving in faith. in good faith. >> writing a law, >> imagine writing a law, assuming going assuming people are going to behave faith. that behave in good faith. that is a

ridiculous government ridiculous idea. the government have legal have failed on legal immigration, led him far too many relatives students come many relatives of students come into literally into the country literally hundreds and they hundreds of thousands, and they failing on immigration failing on illegal immigration as well. yeah. okay. well, coming up next in the big story, should king charles strip the sussexes of the royal titles? i'll be joined in the studio by fearless royal commentator angela see you in a angela levin. see you in a couple minutes

world by photographers. i think elements of their life will be very difficult. earlier on gb news radio . news radio. >> welcome back to mark dolan tonight with me, leo kearse. last night mark asked you to sendin last night mark asked you to send in pictures of your christmas decorations and you responded in your droves . let's responded in your droves. let's take a look at some of them. first up, we have jane from bromsgrove, who has sent in her beautiful tree in the concert tree. it's nice to see somebody with a conservatory and yeah, that looks amazing. i like i like the nice, the nice, warm, the warm yellow tint that those lights give it. and those those

classic baubles . lovely. next classic baubles. lovely. next up, we have elaine's tree. lots of wonderful colour there. she's got stuff on the walls as well. oh no, that's. that's the wallpaper. i do like how it's almost like a like a ukrainian sniper blending in with that wallpaper . but no. what wallpaper. but no. what a beautiful tree . and i'm sure beautiful tree. and i'm sure there are no snipers hiding in it. and finally, ryan anne has sent in an adorable picture of her dog wrapped in tinsel . i her dog wrapped in tinsel. i mean, i'm really hoping your dog isn't going to eat that tinsel. one of my mate's dogs ate a cassette tape once and we had to . we had to. it's very difficult to spill it out. we couldn't use a biro. we had to actually get a vet and wrap the tape round him and then twist him. but thank you so much for sending those in. we'll get two more of those shortly. it's time now for the big story and while my pundits will be giving their will soon be giving their $0.02 on pandemic, liam in on the recent pandemic, liam in the palace, sun newspaper the palace, the sun newspaper are reporting that the may are reporting that the king may consider stripping the sussexes of royal titles. is this a of the royal titles. is this a

worthy sanction? after these unfounded allegations about the king and the princess of wales emerged, this week? well, let's get the views of fearless royal author and biographer angela levin . angela, what do you what levin. angela, what do you what do you make of this? the royal racism? do you think it was a pubuchy racism? do you think it was a publicity stunt to sell more copies of this book? >> well , i'm copies of this book? >> well, i'm sure it was. one thing that they'd set up. it was either a publicity stunt or or they wanted to be absolutely as nasty as possible. right um, and i think that i've been waiting. i think that i've been waiting. i think that i've been waiting. i think if harry and also meghan don't actually threaten to sue the author here, then there's something really wrong because that means they've accepted it. they might even like it. and it is just appalling. >> and have they come out and, and spoken out in defence of charles, they haven't said word. >> you know, they're being rather they're copying the royals. they can't bear it when the royals don't speak. yeah and now they're not saying a word

but so they've chosen this time, this one time to keep their mouth shut and say nothing and just leave . just leave. >> king charles hung out to dry because he was pictured. he's a cop. 28. yes. and lecturing us all and how to reduce our carbon footprint. well he he flies around in a private jet. i'm not having a go at him for that. but he looked he looked stressed and he looked he looked stressed and he looked he looked stressed and he looked worried. and apparently reports that his apparently the reports that his doctor been by his side all doctor had been by his side all week. well he did say that somebody asked him how he was and he said , i'm all right, sort and he said, i'm all right, sort of . of. >> and i think that's really sad. and it's actually quite a big thing for him to say because he's always trying to be kind and nice and he doesn't ever do me, you know , and i think a bit me, you know, and i think a bit like one of those vague facebook posts that that women sometimes do, though, like just checked into hospital . into hospital. >> well, no more information . >> well, no more information. but yes . but yes. >> well, you can't expect him to say too much. but any adult

would see what sort of pain he would see what sort of pain he would have . i mean, it is just would have. i mean, it is just horrible. and it gets worse and worse and worse and there seems to be no end of it, you know, into gb views harry writing a book now, this second book from covid. and then meghan's going to do one, i think they must actually come to an end of this spitefulness and it just shows how important it is to them to win , especially meghan. i mean, win, especially meghan. i mean, she's very formidable in that she's very formidable in that she has to win. and i was just reading something this evening before i came in that one of the big reasons is that she felt she wasn't given enough time to speak out , that she had grown speak out, that she had grown a professional woman. so she should be absolutely more sought after than catherine. so this is an absolute spiteful mess that she's getting her own back . but she's getting her own back. but she's getting her own back. but she did come to think that the queen would want all her ideas

on making the royal family modern. well, i think she would have had accepted some if she'd had time. you know , if you had time. you know, if you change your country, you change what you're doing. you come to such an extraordinary family , such an extraordinary family, you need at least two years, i would think, to get used to them and get used to their ways . and get used to their ways. >> and it's a royal family. it's not going to be the same as another family you like. you're literally becoming a princess and also, there's some advantages you're of advantages like you're one of the in the country the five people in the country who literally eat swan. so who can literally eat a swan. so you know, there's some upsides that with the that go with not being the centre of attention what centre of attention is what tastes like. >> so maybe i'm a commoner. >> so maybe i'm a commoner. >> i'm not allowed to eat them, but i see i think i think the royals can eat them. i might be wrong in that. i'm not. i'm not an yes. can they? you're an expert. yes. can they? you're an expert. yes. can they? you're an expert. yes. can they? you're an expert can eat. >> well, got that bit >> well, i haven't got that bit yet. i don't understand about that. no. no. >> you you think king >> and do you do you think king charles will retaliate in any way? i mean, been talk way? i mean, there's been talk of their titles in of him stripping their titles in in theory, that's going round in

practice. >> i don't think it will happen because he does love harry. and then you're in a state where you hate what your child is doing, but something inside you makes you want to love them. and i think that the family are very anxious about what could happen if they parted or the state that harry could be in. and i think they are well, i know they are there for him. the door is open. but he doesn't take any advantage of that . he's just advantage of that. he's just behaving as meghan tells him. he's more like a sort of servant to her, really , and listens to to her, really, and listens to what she's doing. but but there is a politician on who wants to bnng is a politician on who wants to bring it to parliament and he wants to go back to germany and britain in 1970. mean the first world war and bring in where the germans couldn't take their british titles with them. they could be wiped out. and he wants to bring this to parliament next

week and make sure that they could do that. but he's just not very well known . it'll be very well known. it'll be something that he says and then everyone will move on. but it's very difficult to move remove their titles because because they can take off. duke and duchess . yes. yeah. but if they duchess. yes. yeah. but if they can't take away prince harry and prince, he's in a line . well, prince, he's in a line. well, then meghan would be called prince henry, which i don't think she'd like, but that's how it would be. she wouldn't lose a title . title. >> she wouldn't be called princess. >> no , she's not going to be a >> no, she's not going to be a princess. is for somebody who. no, she won't be princess. no, she won't be a princess. it's not she will be. well, she'll be princess henry . she she'll be princess henry. she won't princess meghan . she won't be princess meghan. she can't be a princess in her own right. right so we would have to see. but i think it's very difficult to know what to do. i mean, william is furious. charles is very sad about it and trying to calm things down. >> and do you think do you think

meghan and harry, you know, things don't seem to be panning out the way they'd hoped. they signed all these big money deals for the for book, spotify, for netflix . and none of them have netflix. and none of them have really taken off, i mean, apart from the book, which sold a lot, but there's only so long you can milk that cow revealing royal secrets. >> yeah, but in a way that's why prince harry called home and said he'd love to come for christmas. and then all shock, horror. meghan spoke to king charles as well. they had a lovely chat, we're told. but i wonder why on earth did they do that? did they do that because they knew the book was coming along. so they wanted to really make it hard for them be nice one day, be nasty the next day. a terrible attitude, but it could be. or they wanted to come. so that they could get a home free. they could get a they could be looked after by policemen so they didn't have to pay policemen so they didn't have to pay anything. yeah. and but they

would actually get lots of stories that they could then sell. yeah. i mean i think there is such a sort of nasty place now that they could think like that. but it doesn't make sense why you would phone your father when knew this would be when you knew this would be coming out. i can't believe they weren't shown it. yeah and i can't believe they didn't look at it very carefully. >> yeah, it looks like a grim christmas for the royals. well, coming up with tonight's top pundits, is the latest. i'm a celebrity row. the perfect storm for nigel farage to re—enter mainstream politics. we'll be back with you in

radio show. >> welcome back . we've got some >> welcome back. we've got some more of your wonderful christmas decorations now. philip and victoria with a k have sent in their wonderful festive decorations. look at that . look decorations. look at that. look at that. look at that. that's a big living room. i like that. i want to live in a house like that in london. you can't. you

couldn't ever. i mean, maybe the sultan of brunei could afford a living room that big. i like how you've got the stars and the origami stars on the curtains as well. you've some glittery well. you've got some glittery rain there as well. it's rain deer there as well. it's all out. jillian has sent in this picture of her christmas lights . look that. oh, my lights. look at that. oh, my god. looks like new god. that looks like the new trolls it's colourful . trolls movie. it's so colourful. well, am, like, literally well, i am, like, literally having a flashback woodstock. having a flashback to woodstock. looking that . that looking at that. that is wonderful. little santa wonderful. and little santa there in middle. and you can there in the middle. and you can see jillian herself the see jillian herself taking the taking the selfie. i don't know if she intended that, but you're famous now, jillian. and finally , in this very cute , bev has sent in this very cute picture of her dog. oh, my god. which one's the dog? is it? the one riding the other dog? no, that's . is that a reindeer? that's. is that a reindeer? i think it is. i think it's a tiny rudolph sunny virk knitting tradition by being carried by a dog instead of dragging a big sled with a fat man with presents. so that is. that is beautiful. bev, thanks for that. thanks for sharing those , thanks for sharing those, everyone and reacting to the big stories the day. tonight's stories of the day. tonight's

top , writer and top pundits, writer and broadcaster webb , the broadcaster emma webb, the leader of ukip, neil hamilton. he's finally turned up and former labour mp simon danczuk. now, whenever our very own nigel farage emerges from his little trip to australia, he'll be returning back to blighty to find a very different government to the one when he left david cameron has made a sensational return to the front bench as foreign secretary the prime minister has lost confidence within his own party over his immigration policy and reform . immigration policy and reform. uk are instead climbing up the polls at a very fast rate . in polls at a very fast rate. in today's telegraph, patrick o'flynn , branded farage the o'flynn, branded farage the comeback kid. so is the set of circumstances actually the perfect storm for nigel to farage re—enter mainstream politics? well, joining me now to talk about nigel's prospects is the defence spokesman for reform uk frederick chedham . now reform uk frederick chedham. now let's let's get straight to it. frederick thanks for joining us. and but yeah, what do you think

of nigel's? do you think nigel is going to come back into politics when he comes back? >> well, thank you. it's really nice to be here. good. good to see you. yeah. no i think he will. i mean, why not? the country needs him. let's face it. he could walk , i think, into it. he could walk, i think, into just about any party at the moment. that appraised with. well, with open arms . so, yes, well, with open arms. so, yes, he's going to get a big shock of that jungle with the events that have gone but i think he's have gone on. but i think he's ready of conviction ready with a lot of conviction for for the fight ahead that for the for the fight ahead that will be there. and he will, am will be there. and he will, i am sure, take reform to even greater heights than it's beginning to achieve . beginning to achieve. >> and frederick, do you think that he'll he'll come back as part of reform? because there has been some talk of him actually joining the tories and steering them back to success? >> well, i can imagine if you were in rishi sunak sitting room at the moment, nigel, there and some of his tory colleagues, frankly, he'd be a lot more of an electoral asset for him. i'm,

i'm confident from the conversations i've had in the leadership group and with nigel that he's brilliant minded, that the tories in their present form are complete busted flush. and are a complete busted flush. and this about playing this isn't about playing politics sake of a personal reputation . it's about actually reputation. it's about actually trying to do some conviction politics with the tories to go away, take a good long look at themselves and then maybe come back at some point in the future. and the reform party with nigel and with richard , with nigel and with richard, with nigel and with richard, with ben, with ann widdecombe and all the other talent and all the other great talent that to take up the that is ready to take up the reins of such leadership and or influence that we can manage and put where we want put this country where we want it to be. well i want to bring my panel in on this. >> so, yeah , if we if we bring >> so, yeah, if we if we bring them up in the boxes, i mean, neil, you seem like a perfect person to have an opinion on this, you know, being part of ukip and, i mean, what do you make of it, do you think, nigel is going to come back and storm to victory as part of reform? >> well, nigel's firmly ruled out coming back into politics as

an active candidate. >> but come on, that's what politicians always say. >> well, but nigel is the conviction . what he conviction politician. what he says what he means and what says is what he means and what he means is what he says. so he said few ago that said just a few weeks ago that because of our radical electoral system, first past the post, it's very, very difficult for a third to party break in with the big boys and, you know, he stood seven times for parliament before. and even in ukip in its real heyday back in 2015, 2016. and we weren't able to win any parliamentary seats apart from the ones held by douglas carswell and mark reckless, who defected to us from the tories. so i'd be very surprised actually, if nigel is going to come back at the head of reform as a candidate. and i don't think that he could lead a party without being a candidate. so i'm sceptic. i'd be delighted i'm a sceptic. i'd be delighted to be proved by the way, to be proved wrong, by the way, because i think nigel been because i think nigel has been the important part the most important part of politicians war. who's politicians since the war. who's not been parliament and he not been in parliament and he

has miracles in the has achieved miracles in the brexit referendum. yeah, absolutely. >> i mean i've seen people criticise nigel for, for being an unsuccessful politician because times for because he stood seven times for parliament and didn't, you know, didn't win any of those times. but his ideas, his, his idea of leaving the eu was enacted. and you can see you know, prime ministers don't get their ideas enacted. rishi sunak has been wrangling with the rwanda plan for so long. so, i mean , on that for so long. so, i mean, on that basis, nigel is one of our most successful ever politicians. but i mean . simon do you do you i mean. simon do you do you think there's a an opportunity for a third party to come in because it seems like the two main parties are really just ideological, absolutely aligned. there's not you couldn't fit a rizla between them. >> yeah, absolutely. and i'm a celebrity has done nigel a lot of good. i travel around and a lots of people talking very positively about his appearance on that show. and i think it's done him a lot of good and politically as well. this is a

real political scenario. the reform party is increasing in the opinion polls. they take votes off the conservatives as you say, who are trying to occupy the centre ground. the labour are trying to occupy the centre ground . you have a small centre ground. you have a small labour majority in the next general election . it's a very general election. it's a very weak government. i don't know how long it would last. three, two, three, four, five years maximum. obviously and then the people are so fed up because they're centre right now. the pubuc they're centre right now. the public are centre right. they've had enough of a terrible labour government and they, moved government and they, they moved to right and that's where to the right and that's where reform and perhaps nigel would have a real part to play and emma do you think, do you think with a labour government because there's always rumblings from, from the liberal democrats and from the liberal democrats and from labour that they're going to introduce proportional represents , which would be represents, which would be a godsend for for, third parties. >> they'd actually, you know, get, number of seats . get, get a good number of seats. do you think that could happen and give boost to nigel farage? >> proportional represents representation actually along representation is actually along

with lords reform is with house of lords reform is one of the things that i disagree with the reform party on. so i'm torn on that on. so i'm quite torn on that because, yes, it is true that it would benefit smaller parties , would benefit smaller parties, but i think it could also contribute to political instability and it's not something that's in line with the historical constitutional roots of our political system. so that's a whole other separate issue . so but regardless of that issue. so but regardless of that , i think it's clear from the polling that reform can still take a giant bite out of probably not only the conservative party's voting base, but also the labour party's voting base, particularly in the red wall, especially now after keir starmer's comments about margaret thatcher. yeah, so i think it's possible that reform could really make a dent in the next general election regardless. now it would be very interested thing if nigel and i think very many people around the country who are watching i'm a celebrity, which i haven't watched myself, but knowing him through gb news people can see me and know when they see a

decent bloke and i think if he were to become involved in the conservative party, that could be ground breaking for the conservatives . but given the conservatives. but given the fact that the direction of the conservative party is such that they went for groundhog day and i actually thought i was having some kind of fever dream when they brought david cameron back from the from the was trying to avoid that. but i so i don't necessarily think that that's something that they would be open to but i do frederick some of this must be music to your ears. >> i mean do you think do you think nigel could come back and lead reform to some kind of victory at the polls? or do you think he could instead of instead of actually taking a seat in parliament, push the agenda so his ideas get enacted again? well he doesn't need a seat, does he? >> i mean, parliament is stuffed full of people that we don't even know their names are some of them are running around with knighthoods, which is something

nigel farage i mean, he nigel farage got. but i mean, he moves dial he is in moves the dial wherever he is in politics to politics and he's going to move the dial gets back. i the dial when he gets back. i have no doubt about it. and the idea going to the idea of going to the conservative party when a conservative party when a conservative party when a conservative party that manifestly failed deliver on manifestly failed to deliver on its commitments in the 2019 election ageless . you don't do election ageless. you don't do that if you're a conviction politician. in all, we want all the country wants is for politicians to do as they are asked to do , not do what the asked to do, not do what the metropolitan liberal elite do, which is talk to them all the time and forget that there's a country out there who actually voted for them. >> frederick, you know, >> and frederick, you know, talking of conviction politicians, we saw suella being thrown the thrown thrown out of the tory, thrown out of her position. you know, do you think that gives more muscle to nigel and more muscle to the reform party? well i think it does, but i mean, i have to pay tribute to the conservative party for our work for us. >> i mean, all the all the conservative party have to do to get a landslide is set zero. get

rid of net migration and then solve the problem of immigration, which is easy. they make out. and if they did that, they'd get a landslide. while they'd get a landslide. while they don't do that, then they are find that there's are going to find that there's a party line which is going to come up on their heels pretty fast because that's what most of the people want. >> quickly before we >> and just quickly before we 90, >> and just quickly before we go, think not go, why do you think they're not doing because it's doing that? because it's baffling me. >> yeah. yeah country you go to any any pub, any football terrace any factor in is baffling them as well as many things baffle about the labour party. it's because what we have is we have a group of people in mainstream media, in our institutions and in government who are just listening to their own conversation and they honestly think that they know better than us and they honestly think that what they say is what goes on. but sitting here in rural warwickshire , and i can rural warwickshire, and i can tell you now people here, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|thisu now people here, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|this leafy people here, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|this leafy part, le here, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|this leafy part, do 1ere, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|this leafy part, do not, even rural warwickshire, and i can te|this leafy part, do not think in this leafy part, do not think like the all the opposition or indeed most of the institutions do. they are just tone deaf to the message the them .

the message of the cutting them. >> frederick, thanks so much for joining us. that's frederick chatham, the defence spokesman for uk . now chatham, the defence spokesman for uk. now coming up at for reform uk. now coming up at ten, should prince harry come out in defence of his father? but first, our mark meat guest is benny davidson, a survivor of a hostage ordeal in 1976. he'll join us live from israel. that's next right after the weather. don't go away . don't go away. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from gb news. i'm ellie glaisyer air. it's been a very cloudy and damp day for much of england and wales today, but drier and brighter across much of scotland and low and northern ireland. low pressure the pressure sits out towards the southwest, moving its way southwest, slowly moving its way towards through this evening towards us through this evening and start of the new and into the start of the new working week, bringing it working week, bringing with it some winds and some some very strong winds and some heavy rainfall as well. overnight rainfall overnight tonight, this rainfall turning across the turning to snow across the hills of parts northern of wales. parts of northern england as seeing some england as well, seeing some snowfall building into the

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well >> come back to mark dolan tonight with me, leo kearse and let's take a look at some more of your festive displays . of your festive displays. elizabeth from manchester has sent us a picture of her outdoor decorations. look at that . all decorations. look at that. all lit up. looks great. we've got santa and a couple of i don't know if she's she's very tall or if they're little bushes. she could be 35ft tall and just looming looming over that. but that's that's beautiful. very festive. next up, we have land his christmas tree. wow wow. look at that. i don't believe that's a real christmas tree. i think that's made from some sort of synthetic material because you don't get that colour of pine tree in the wild . but it pine tree in the wild. but it looks amazing. very tall as

well. and another beautiful living room. it almost looks like the one we looked at earlier. and finally, karen has shared her very artistic christmas display . look at this, christmas display. look at this, a bit different. i like that. it's like a wes anderson director's cut version of a christmas tree with the baubles. it's a bit twiggy and you've got the string of pearls going round. lovely. and what i like best about that is there a couple of bottles of wine at the bottom and they look like nice ones as well because christmas isfime ones as well because christmas is time for, for nice things. so thank you again for sharing those pictures. and it's time now for this . it's time now for this. it's time now for mark meat. tonight i'm joined by a man who is taken hostage by terrorists when he was just 13 years old. benny davidson and his family were flying from tel aviv to paris when palestinian terrorists hijacked the aeroplane and took those on

board to entebbe in uganda . board to entebbe in uganda. benny has described what followed as a week long ordeal, which ended in a shootout between israeli forces and the palestinian terrorists . but palestinian terrorists. but tragically, four of the hostages lost their lives . joining me now lost their lives. joining me now to tell us his truly remarkable story and to reflect on the current israel—hamas war is benny davidson . benny, welcome benny davidson. benny, welcome to mark. meet can you talk us through exactly what you and your family went through initially on that aeroplane ? initially on that aeroplane? >> lviv all thank you and good evening to you. >> yeah , yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> a few minutes after takeoff from athens , uh, towards paris , from athens, uh, towards paris, uh, we heard a high pitch, shrill yell from a french stewardess and some seconds after on the left aisle came a very pale white sort prent stewardess walking on the aisle towards coach class. >> and behind her was a german

lady, not a lady. german terrorist woman waving a grenade in one hand and holding a gun to her head . and the stewardess had her head. and the stewardess had the same time her companion, a german terrorist male, broke into the cockpit and took over the plane . and at the same time the plane. and at the same time behind us, we were seated in four middle seats, roughly towards the end of the aeroplane , two arabs, palestinian , who , two arabs, palestinian, who boarded the plane in athens in the layover there, jumped up and started running up and down the aisles , waving grenades in the aisles, waving grenades in the handguns, shouting this aeroplane is now kidnapped . wow. aeroplane is now kidnapped. wow. so you can imagine that the all hell broke loose with tears and yelling and shouting and drama . yelling and shouting and drama. um, but you know, at the same time, my father , who was sitting time, my father, who was sitting on the right aisle, took a very quick look to the left. my

mother was sitting next to him. i was sitting next to her and my older brother ron was sitting next to me on the left aisle. and my father just gave a very, very short command, sit low in your seats. if a gun blasts off, you're not getting hurt by a bullet. so although all hell broke loose and it's a completely uncontrolled situation . to some extent, situation. to some extent, i felt i wouldn't say safe, but i felt i wouldn't say safe, but i felt that my father and mother knows what's to be done and gave a very short command few minutes after the terrorist demanded to collect all ids and passports and flight tickets and whatever. and my father found in his wallet his israeli air force entry to the base. my father was a colonel in the israeli air force and active , uh, combat force and active, uh, combat navigator. now so that's a piece

of information that you don't want terrorists to know that there is a high ranking officer of the israeli air force on the aeroplane. so instead of becoming hysterical , he tore it becoming hysterical, he tore it to four pieces distributed between the four of us. we each continued to tear it to smaller pieces , put it in our mouth, pieces, put it in our mouth, turning it into a small paper, balls and throwing it into a soft drink can in the seat in front of us, and thus in a few minutes we became culprits . and, minutes we became culprits. and, you know, eliminating evidence. so those small things were actually prolonged during the whole of that week by by maintaining small gestures and routines and daily chores, like collecting books and building a library or playing backgammon or chess or playing with your friends . um, chess or playing with your friends. um, i'll bet chess or playing with your friends . um, i'll bet that that friends. um, i'll bet that that you're guarded by ten killing

terrorists and over 100 combat for fully dressed up, head to toe with ak 47 ugandan soldiers. and last but not least , the and last but not least, the amin, which is frightening by itself . so there are are itself. so there are are certainly lots of moments of terror and drama that can scar you. but but those daily chores and activities, which i also hear from the hostages that are coming back now from hamas , that coming back now from hamas, that they managed to implicate meant some kind of a daily routine . is some kind of a daily routine. is a great white mask , not to be a great white mask, not to be traumatised as a lot now i'm not comparing 76 to 2023. we'll get to that. i'm sure. yeah. because the situation now is much more severe. but that's in a nutshell and were there were there any lingering effects?

>> i mean you spoke or wrote about the guilt you felt about about the guilt you felt about about some of the people that died , the man who led the rescue died, the man who led the rescue mission, yoni netanyahu. he he was he was shot and killed by the by the terrorists. so i mean, would you have any advice on how to how to deal with the with the survivor's survivor's guilt ? guilt? >> well, it's true thirst that the only thing that i that was a burden , i would say, on on my burden, i would say, on on my shoulders for 40 years, um, i couldn't go up to mt. herzl where he is buried and the great of the nation are buried because i felt guilt of his death that because of me it's a little megalomaniac , right? but because megalomaniac, right? but because of us, israel lost a great combatant and an a great potential leader . and. sorry. potential leader. and. sorry. and hershko is a paratrooper who

got plagued . he was very got plagued. he was very seriously injured in that operation . so i took it upon operation. so i took it upon myself. but then on the 40th anniversary of entebbe , i first anniversary of entebbe, i first spoke in public actually in philadelphia , sophia in yoni's philadelphia, sophia in yoni's childhood neighbourhood . i was childhood neighbourhood. i was ianed childhood neighbourhood. i was invited and i didn't know what i'm going to say. and between my seat and the podium , i walked seat and the podium, i walked for like ten metres and i thought, what am i going to tell them? uh and it suddenly dawned on me that yoni died for us and not because of us. that was his job. and. and i told the story and i saw the reaction of the audience and they were very moved and very inspired and ever since i'm roaming the world in israel and telling that story not just about the idf heroism and the israeli then government that was very brave to take such a difficult, extremely difficult decision. they sent 220

combatants to rescue 105 hostages and they could have lost the 220 and the 105. yeah. uh it succeeded , except for the uh it succeeded, except for the four hostages that died. and of course , yoni. but but moreover , course, yoni. but but moreover, i'm speaking a lot to the audience about the resilience s that was built and inscribed in me during that week. and, you know, one week or actually ten days after we landed in israel in july of 76 , on 14th of july, in july of 76, on 14th of july, we took off again, this time on a direct flight, this time with el—al, and not with air france. but we flew to new york and then for a whole month spent the same bar mitzvah trip that was planned originally to the letter. it's amazing . letter. it's amazing. >> so your parents took you on the holiday that you were originally going on when you were you were kidnapped by were when you were kidnapped by the that's the terrorists? i mean, that's a fantastic example of resilience. and thank you so much for

joining davidson. we joining us, benny davidson. we unfortunately have to have to end there. what an end it there. but what an amazing story coming up in the in the 10:00 hour. tomorrow's papers the press with papers hot off the press with live from tonight's top live reaction from tonight's top punst live reaction from tonight's top pundits silence from the pundits and the silence from the sussexes over the

away . it's 10:00 away . it's10:00 on television away. it's 10:00 on television on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight i'm leo stepping in for mark, who unfortunately has had a family bereavement. all of us gb news are sending love and prayers to mark and his family. coming up at the silence from the sussexes over the royal race. allegations is deafening. harry needs to speak out and defend his dad and fast because if not, there's no way back for the prodigal prince as he praises margaret thatcher. could backing the iron lady be a vote winner for keir starmer ? i'll be

winner for keir starmer? i'll be asking a woman who knew her well. former government minister ann widdecombe. plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. it's a packed show. lots to get through . but first, the news with ray addison . on cheers, leo. addison. on cheers, leo. >> our top stories tonight , a >> our top stories tonight, a 1500 properties in cumbria are still without electricity after heavy snow caused power cuts . heavy snow caused power cuts. electricity north west says repairs are continuing following significant damage to the network, with engineers battling treacherous conditions . weather treacherous conditions. weather warnings for snow and ice remain in place for many parts of the uk. earlier today, police confirmed that the body of a man had been found in a car in nottingham. well, it's been announced that the foreign secretary will to travel the united states next week to meet secretary of state antony blinken . lord cameron will blinken. lord cameron will travel to washington on the 6th

of december as part of efforts to de—escalate tensions in the middle east. he'll also meet with republican and democrat members of congress. with republican and democrat members of congress . a us members of congress. a us warship has shot down a drone launched from houthi controlled areas in yemen . the american areas in yemen. the american military says that there were four attacks today against three commercial vessels in the southern red sea. it's believed that one of the ships was hit. that was hit was a british owned cargo vessel. yemeni houthis claimed that they struck israeli targets . however, israel's targets. however, israel's military says the ships had no connection to them . now well, connection to them. now well, commuters have been facing a second day of travel chaos today as train drivers continued seven days of strikes as left union members have launched a series of walkouts in their dispute over pay great northern thameslink and avanti west coast trains have all been cancelled due to and railways and west midlands railway services have also been affected . the suspect

also been affected. the suspect in the killing of a german tourist in paris pledged allegiance to islamic state before attacking tourists in central paris . the prosecutor central paris. the prosecutor says the 26 year old made the comment in a video posted on social media after two other people, including a british tourist, were injured when they were attacked with a knife and hammer near the eiffel tower. the suspect was sentenced to four years in prison for planning another attack in 2016. in the us, four people, including two children, have been killed following a stabbing at a home in new york. two police officers were also attacked before shooting the suspect said to be a family member. he's now deceased. patrick henry is president of the nyc police benevolent association . association. >> this scene was chaos as multiple victims cars, a house on fire and a mad man on a rampage on a mission in and thankful that these police officers showed up . imagine what officers showed up. imagine what could have happened if these

police officers weren't there. this mad man had tried to kill after he killed others. a new york city police officer, the skill that this police officer had shooting and stopping the threat after he was being stabbed . stabbed. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to . leo let's get back to. leo >> thank you're welcome to mark dolan tonight. i'm leo carr stepping in for mark who has unfortunately had a family bereavement coming up tonight as he praises margaret thatcher. could backing the iron lady be a vote winner for keir starmer? i'll be asking a woman who knew her well. former government minister ann widdecombe . plus, minister ann widdecombe. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio

from tonight's top pundits , from tonight's top pundits, writer and broadcaster emma webb, the leader of ukip , neil webb, the leader of ukip, neil hamilton, and former labour mp simon danczuk. hamilton, and former labour mp simon danczuk . and they'll be simon danczuk. and they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes , a packed and back page zeroes, a packed houn and back page zeroes, a packed hour. and those papers are coming. but first, it's palace pandemonium. it's been the story in the headlines all week . the in the headlines all week. the release of omid scobie's new book, endgame was always bound to stir up relations between the duke and duchess of sussex and the rest of the royal family. however, the dutch version of scobie's book has done much more than that. after an apparent mix up. yeah, i believe that meant that the names of the so—called so—called royal racists appeared in print. all that's followed from the sussexes has been complete radio silence . complete radio silence. accusations of racism are egregious and can lead to the end of a career. the loss of friends and family and public shame. so why hasn't prince harry come out in defence of his family members? and should this

latest debacle mean him and his wife are finally stripped of their royal titles? well, let's get reaction from tonight's top punst get reaction from tonight's top pundits , writer and broadcaster pundits, writer and broadcaster emma webb. the leader of ukip, neil hamilton, and former labour mp simon danczuk. now, simon, what do you what do you make of this ferrari? i mean, a sense that you're a man who thinks it's all a bit silly. >> well, i think we should strip them of their titles. i think there are parallels with edward there are parallels with edward the eighth abdication in some ways, harry is a similar sort of character to him. and this this this is just going on and on and on.and this is just going on and on and on. and i'm a great supporter of the royal family, but i think it's about time that we move them away from the uk. they clearly don't want anything to do britain in any do with britain in any sophisticated way. it's at the titles off them and cut them, cut them. adrift is my view and maybe the maybe the mayor of los angeles give them titles i >> -- >> neil, i mean, do you think going back the original going back to the original claims, mean, do you think the claims, i mean, do you think the speculation over the skin

colour, hair colour , whatever colour, hair colour, whatever else of a baby, do you think that's that's racist? because it seems to be not of course it's not racist. >> i mean, which a family does not have discussions of this kind. might as well have had kind. you might as well have had a about whether a discussion about whether the baby going to have red hair baby is going to have red hair from and there's from harry and there's absolutely of absolutely nothing of significance speculation significance in such speculation .even significance in such speculation . even the idea that the king or catherine would be in any way concerned to use the word that meghan used at the beginning of this farrago of nonsense is absurd. i mean, the king is, you know, far too woke for my taste and so on. most of the senior members of the royal family. so this is absolute nonsense. but i think that the silence of harry and meghan must be down to a very bad attack of laryngitis. don't you ? let's be kind to them don't you? let's be kind to them and let's hope it goes on forever . forever. >> well, i've never this is the thing i've never i've never seen them shut up for this long. >> yes. suddenly they've taken on the policy of don't complain,

don't and following the don't explain. and following the queen's lead , i well firstly you queen's lead, i well firstly you would think if they really wanted to suggest that omid scobie wasn't their mouthpiece, that they would say something about it. yeah, but i also think you're right. i don't think it's racist. i think regardless of the fact that these accusations are baseless , it's just hearsay are baseless, it's just hearsay and happened to conveniently augn and happened to conveniently align with certain people's motivations . maybe when it comes motivations. maybe when it comes to their own pr , i think that to their own pr, i think that even if it were true, it's something that all families discuss who's the baby going to look most like . yeah. and if you look most like. yeah. and if you are, as i think meghan does , are, as i think meghan does, view everything through the lens of race or maybe even critical race theory, if you're assuming that they are assigning some kind of value to whether the baby will look more like her or more like harry, then maybe you might that negative . might interpret that negative. lee it's still baseless . lee but it's still baseless. >> i mean, this is the thing.

all the people calling them racist are the people who are themselves laser themselves absolutely laser focussed on race in every situation and in defence of whoever was was speculate as to the colour of the baby. they could be they could have been trying to work out how much white privilege it would have to, you know, to know how many opportunities deny it, to opportunities is to deny it, to provide equity to society . i provide equity to society. i mean, it seems like it seems weird that the people are so focussed on race are people focussed on race are the people who complaining that who are who are complaining that somebody made somebody actually made a question race. question about race. >> find fascinating is >> what i find fascinating is that author this, omid that the author know this, omid scobie, making himself scobie, he's now making himself out be the victim. he's out to be the victim. he's trying to the victim . and trying to play the victim. and he i'm extremely he is saying, i'm extremely hurt by people might by the idea that people might might suggesting this is a pr might be suggesting this is a pr stunt and everything else to promote book. shocking. stunt and everything else to procho, book. shocking. stunt and everything else to promc no, it'syook. shocking. stunt and everything else to promc no, it's certainly:king. stunt and everything else to promc no, it's certainly worth yeah. no, it's certainly worth pensh yeah. no, it's certainly worth perish the thought. my advice to him to the uk him is don't come to the uk anytime soon. i think people are really fed up with him. >> i mean, a pr stunt, >> yeah. i mean, as a pr stunt, whether it was intended or not. i mean, we obviously can't say for certain it but it for certain that it was, but it certainly certainly worked

certainly it certainly worked amazingly well . been amazingly well. it's been it hasn't been the headlines hasn't been out of the headlines pretty bad pr him , pretty bad, bad pr for him, though, because like the though, because it's like the end his own career as end game of his own career as well as of meghan and harry. >> i think so. i think he's embarrassed i mean, embarrassed himself. i mean, nobody's as nobody's going to trust him as a or anything. only people who or anything. the only people who anybody digging anybody trust a dirt digging royal author anyway , people will royal author anyway, people will still buy his book, probably because they want the salacious gossip from it. but i coming up to christmas, anybody's going to you know, it's like everyone will it a pinch of salt. will take it as a pinch of salt. and i you're right, by the and i think you're right, by the way. think bizarre that way. i think it's bizarre that they haven't been stripped of their when they their titles already when they were cut loose the royal were cut loose from the royal family to family and they decided to go their way, should have their own way, they should have just know , completely just been, you know, completely severed . and they should severed. and i think they should actually removed from the actually be removed from the line of succession i'd line of succession as well. i'd go the whole i think politicians, the government, the prime minister having prime minister should be having that king charles. >> i think that serious >> i think it's that serious people enough them. people have had enough of them. >> yeah. i mean, that's that's interesting. interesting interesting. it's interesting as well, you mentioned well, neil, that you mentioned the charles of the the king charles is one of the wokeist royals. we've had in a while. i mean, in dubai,

while. i mean, he's in dubai, right now. you know, right now. exactly. you know, trying to us stop taking trying to get to us stop taking easyjet flights to land. >> the dubai is a terribly woke place to be, but still no spill on oil money. >> whole thing seems >> i mean, the whole thing seems to you know, just designed to be, you know, just designed to be, you know, just designed to point out the hypocrisy. >> i wouldn't i wouldn't wave selective grievances as rainbow flags vigorously if flags there too vigorously if i were but but no, this is were you. but but no, this is the paradox of it, isn't it? once you start going down this particular rabbit hole, there's no way out and you can't turn around and come back again. and once you create the damage which has been caused by moving in this direction, it just becomes cumulative. and so the sussex saga is merely built upon those shoddy foundations. it's a real tragedy for the monarchy actually, because actually what harry and meghan are trying to do is to down the british do is to bring down the british monarchy institution. this monarchy as an institution. this is the real significance because to me, it just i feel like they're trying to make a living. >> they're scrambling around trying. i mean, they've already played their trump card, which

is, you know, i was royal is, you know, i was in the royal family. here's secrets that family. here's some secrets that you not know. and you might not know. and now they're around. >> p- around. >> they've been >> i mean, they've been struggling along on the 17 million that harry inherited from his mother and whatever meghan out of whatever meghan has made out of whatever tawdry nonsense you're princess. >> no, exactly right. oh, really ? but they don't care about the institution of monarchy because they're entirely narcissistic and focussed upon themselves. you know, it's their truth, which is what she was wittering on about all along, as though truth is subjective, not objective. and but the damage that they've done to the monarchy as an institution and the monarchy is done to itself by indulging them, i think is terrific. >> and also, look at the documentary that they made for netflix. they were obviously suggesting that the it to use woke language that monarchy woke language that the monarchy is institutionally problematic . is institutionally problematic. right. and so of course the implication of that is that you need to tear it down in some kind of way. it's been made kind of way. and it's been made very clear that meghan markle

went idea that she went in with this idea that she was to bring something new was going to bring something new to the monarchy. right. and looking at, you know, i think it was camilla tominey article about this in the telegraph that , you know, there seems to be this resentment of meghan towards kate because kate's not the self—made woman that meghan is and that meghan found that the firm already existed before she arrived. and this doesn't fit with that kind of narcissistic need that the two of them at the centre of the eye of them at the centre of the eye of them at the centre of the eye of the storm. >> well, interesting thoughts coming up as he praises margaret thatcher. could backing the iron lady be a vote winner for keir starmer? be asking a woman starmer? i'll be asking a woman who knew her well, former government minister ann widdecombe. plus tomorrow's front instant front pages with instant reaction tonight's reaction from tonight's top pundits. you in

>> welcome back to mark dolan tonight. with me, leo kearse. time now to take a look at more

of your christmas decorations. first up, we have this picture sent in from jeff and barbara in knutsford. that's wonderful. you've got a little a little christmas tree there on the left and you've got a reindeer, some kind of pink elf and an assortment of people from narnia , it looks like on the bottom. i love that. that's beautiful. a very, very unique . next, we've very, very unique. next, we've got rachel who sent in this lovely picture of her tree. another massive tree. these are amazing trees. another massive tree. these are amazing trees . we're seeing lots amazing trees. we're seeing lots of tinsel, lots of lights. that's what we like to see. beautiful stuff, rachel. and finally, clear has sent us a picture of her lovely christmas wreath. look at that. that looks real. those real apple, they can't be real because that's got to stay there for a month. but yeah, if i was walking past and i'd had a few pints, i might try and eat some of that. probably one of the pine cones. anyway thanks saying that. and thanks for saying that. and claire, that's wonderful claire, that's, that's wonderful and so clear. starmer has gotten himself a muddle in the himself into a muddle in the last 24 hours after writing a

piece in the telegraph which praises the late great, but slightly divisive, especially amongst labour party members , amongst labour party members, former prime minister margaret thatcher, in an apparent bid to woo disillusioned tory voters. and there's a lot of them. the labour leader, alongside lord editions of labour icons tony blair and clement attlee, wrote that mrs. thatcher delivered meaningful change and set loose britain's natural entrepreneurial ism. the surprising acclamation has received a frosty reception from both sides of the political spectrum , with tories accusing spectrum, with tories accusing sir keir of trying to ride on the coattails of thatcher's success and the left slamming the former pm for causing poverty and deprivation not seen since the dickensian era. just what is sir keir trying to achieve here? could his praise of the iron lady really win over those disaffected tories? well, let's get the views of a woman who knew her very well. a sure favourite for a government

minister. ann widdecombe , and minister. ann widdecombe, and it's great to see you again . it's great to see you again. >> good evening . >> good evening. >> good evening. >> what do you make of what do you make of sir keir saying this? i mean, it seems like he's already he's already 20 points clear. he's going to win. he's going to win by six nearly. he wants to win by 20 nil. well i mean, it's extraordinary. >> it is. of course, the usual starmer tactic of simply making a statement and then retreating from it. so no, you know, first of all, he was backing jeremy corbyn, thought he was wonderful. now apparently it's margaret thatcher who's wonderful. and i would bet that even you journalists even now, you know, journalists are going through the archives as fast as they can to get all the things that starmer has said against margaret thatcher in the past. he changes his position. i'm sure this is about. i'm not sure what this is about. it's not going to appeal to tories . starmer praising tories. starmer praising thatcher and it certainly won't appeal to his own party, or at any rate, to a large section of it. so i'm not entirely certain what this is about and what he

is hoping to gain. but what he won't gain is votes from the tories . tories. >> well, ann, i've got to take some issue with that because i'm previously a tory voter and i actually like to hear this. i like i like margaret thatcher. i agree with keir that she did unlock brits , iain's unlock brits, iain's entrepreneurial ism and introduced properly free markets and really drove britain's economic growth and vitality . economic growth and vitality. and i love hearing this from from sir keir. i mean, to me he sounds like the right wing leader of the tories have desperately needed for the last 13 years. >> yes, but the point is he's not. he's the leader of the labour party and he was a rabid supporter of corbyn at one point. so he's not you don't know what he's thinking because he changes his mind every five minutes. now you say you disagree with me, but the fact, leo, that you think that may be a good thing to praise. mrs. thatcher doesn't mean that you're rushing to take out a

subscription to the labour party . at least i sincerely hope it doesn't. that is the point. doesn't. and that is the point. it going to win votes it is not going to win votes this way because nobody believes him. >> i mean, it's certainly seems to be another thing that keir starmer has done that's going to alienate, alienate labour, especially the sort of hard left of labour who have already voiced their are upset at his support for israel and his support for israel and his support for israel and his support for government being the mainstay of government, being the rule of law. do you think this could actually harm is chances and lead to splits and dissent within the labour party? well they've already got splits and dissent in the labour party, just the same as the tories have got splits and dissent. >> nothing new under the sun. there i think it will damage him with with the hard core labour left . apart from that, i think left. apart from that, i think most people will dismiss it as an irrelevance because i don't think they will think that he is intending to follow in mrs. thatcher's footsteps. indeed

today he's been rowing back and saying , well, he mean he saying, well, he didn't mean he agreed what she did, but, agreed with what she did, but, you he with the you know, he agreed with the fact was pursuing an agenda fact she was pursuing an agenda with but with vigour and enthusiasm. but it seems to me that when he does say anything that is right, such as support for israel , such as as support for israel, such as recognising at the very least that thatcher, you know, had an agenda which she pursued and delivered whenever he does something that's right, immediately his party gang up on him and decry it. well you know, that tells you all you need to know about the prospect of a labour government. >> and i mean, what's interesting is polls are currently showing that the pubuc currently showing that the public trust labour more on immigration. i mean, considering the tories are supposed to be the tories are supposed to be the party of law and order, strong economy and controlled immigration, does this , does immigration, does this, does this surprise you ? this surprise you? >> well, it doesn't surprise me that that voters no longer trust the tories. it amazes me that they trust labour because labour haven't produced a single policy

in all of this time. they haven't produced a single policy. they've decried what the tories are trying to do. they've decried through and a plan, but they produced their own they haven't produced their own alternative . so why anybody alternative. so why anybody would i don't know. would trust them. i don't know. but equally you certainly can't trust it's had trust the government. it's had rather time to get it rather a long time to get it sorted and it hasn't sorted it. >> but you think because keir >> but do you think because keir is part of woke blob, is part of the woke blob, i mean, left wing people are mean, the left wing people are embedded at the home office and throughout the civil service, the to enact any the people he needs to enact any change, you know, to control immigration. he's actually because he's part of the gang, he's actually got more of a chance of making it happen than, you know, say, say suella braverman does. >> what does he want to >> well, what does he want to happen? he hasn't told hasn't happen? he hasn't told us hasn't said policy going to said what the policy is going to be, said how he's going be, hasn't said how he's going to hasn't said to stop the boats, hasn't said any that at all. hasn't told any of that at all. hasn't told us his policy on legal us what his policy on legal immigration is going to be. now, you so you has he got you know, so you say has he got a better chance of delivering it? what is it there? i haven't heard any it yet . heard any it yet. >> you're quite right. and, you

know, i can't disagree with you there. keir needs to lay out what he actually stands for and pretty fast, because we're not that far away from an election. and thanks so much for joining us. it's brilliant to speak to you, as always. now coming up, tomorrow's front tomorrow's newspaper, front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. be pundits. and they'll be nominating their headline heroes and page zeroes of the day and back page zeroes of the day and back page zeroes of the day and post—match analysis of and full post—match analysis of i'm celebrity with christine i'm a celebrity with christine hamilton. see you in a

radio. welcome back to mark dolan tonight. >> with me, leo kearse. we've got the papers coming up. i've got the papers coming up. i've got them in my hand right here. but first we've got. i i'm a celebrity. get me out of here, which is just come off air and champion frankie dettori champion jockey frankie dettori has camp as the first has just left camp as the first celebrity to be evicted from the jungle we'll get jungle this year. we'll get reaction latest episode reaction to the latest episode shortly , but you can now vote to shortly, but you can now vote to make our very own nigel farage, king of the jungle. let's listen

to the big man himself. >> i'm asking you to vote. >> i'm asking you to vote. >> remain . >> remain. >> remain. >> no, seriously, vote for me to remain in the jungle. now. the easiest way to do it is to get the imacelebrity app that gives you five free votes . or you can you five free votes. or you can phone or text . phone or text. >> i'm not sure he was really in the jungle there. that was. that wasn't the right, the right sort of clothing for a jungle. but let's go now to british tv icon and former i'm a celebrity contestant. the other half of one excellent pundits, one of our excellent pundits, it's hamilton . hi, it's christine hamilton. hi, christine. good to see you. >> hello, leo. >> hello, leo. >> now, frankie dettori is first out. what do you make of that ? out. what do you make of that? >> well, to be perfectly honest , >> well, to be perfectly honest, a, he was last in, so he had less time to make an impact. and let's be honest, he was a bit bonng. let's be honest, he was a bit boring . and don't forget, think boring. and don't forget, think what one of the things i like about i'm a celebrity and basically the whole thing, let's be honest, is getting a bit

boring. it's repetitive. is that it's a positive vote. you don't vote for people to be out . you vote for people to be out. you vote for people to be out. you vote for people to be out. you vote for people to stay in. right. and not enough people wanted frankie to stay in. and to be honest, he didn't really give them a reason to vote for him. not enough reason. >> that's a shame, because he seems like a nice guy. what do you appearances you make of nigel's appearances so well so far? well >> well, he made a crashing mistake when he admitted under a whisper and he thought it wouldn't be heard. but i want to do the trials because then i'll get 25% of the airtime. an awful lot of people who weren't liking him anyway thought , right, we him anyway thought, right, we were to for him were going to vote for him because we wanted to see him suffer. but now we're not going to him because that's to vote for him because that's what wants so he what he wants to do. so he hasn't done as many as i hasn't done as many trials as i think would have done think he would have done otherwise. i mean, he's kept otherwise. but i mean, he's kept his head down i, i don't his head down and i, i don't think he's been quite what itv expected. there haven't been big fireworks. there have been minor little discussions. but i mean, nothing very much, to be honest. he has adopted the keep calm and

carry on philosophy, and i think that will carry him a long way. i think he'll get very much towards the end. but i don't think he'll win because in order to win , you have to be to win, you have to be frightfully nice. tony blackburn won the first one that i was on. there was no way i was going to win because i'm not nice enough. um, you know, people like tony win . people like, i'm trying to win. people like, i'm trying to think who else has won, but they're all the very nice people, the divisive people . people, the divisive people. they get a long way, but they don't win . don't win. >> okay, well, you can vote for nigel. everybody watching by scanning the code on the screen right now, there's a little qr code you just hold your phone up to it, open the camera, and it'll it'll open the, the app to to, scan to vote and christine, do you think do you think .going into the jungle like this will help nigel's public appeal? do you think it'll it'll boost his political chances when he when he the uk. he returns to the uk. >> undoubtedly because >> oh no. undoubtedly because anybody who was supported ,

anybody who was supported, nigel, like nigel, agreed with nigel. so they're not going to have changed their minds because he's done nothing to turn them away that. and an awful lot away from that. and an awful lot of people possibly weren't of people who possibly weren't even him will even aware of him will have realised that , gosh, shock, realised that, gosh, shock, horror , he's a normal human horror, he's a normal human being . he's horror, he's a normal human being. he's not this horror, he's a normal human being . he's not this monster being. he's not this monster that we thought he was. he's not this absolute devil incarnate. he's a nice guy. he's perfectly friendly to everybody else. he's maybe a little bit ocd about keeping the camp tidy, but you know, that's not a sin. so i think, you know, i think he will i think he will have won over a huge new legion of followers. >> he's brilliant. >> he's brilliant. >> well, of course. was it that that was his plan ? that was his plan? >> of course. of course it was. it's work. christine, thanks so much for joining it's work. christine, thanks so much forjoining us and giving us your insight as somebody who's the jungle, been who's been in the jungle, been there, done that . great. so it's there, done that. great. so it's 10:30 pm. so it's time for tomorrow's front pages . okay.

tomorrow's front pages. okay. first up, we've got the eye, which leads with tories losing voters to farage amid anger, anger over high migration. so the conservatives face a growing threat from reform uk after support for nigel farage's party hits a high of 11, according to an opinion poll conducted for i. so this is this is a proper opinion poll commissioned by by a left leaning paper. so you can you can trust that and 63% of voters of all parties think that net migration is currently too high with growing numbers , high with growing numbers, seeing it as the most important policy issue. it's something rishi should have tackled already as we are seeing moving on, we've got the daily express with don't write us off tories plan for election battle . okay, plan for election battle. okay, if you say so on the metro we've got show us the money. there's a cyber attack on the hospital used by royals in paddington an

and moving on we've got the mirror which has labour leader sparks row. we were just discussing this with ann widdecombe thatcher back lash hits starmer there's fury after he praises ex tory pm for bringing about meaningful change. i mean, there's no way that anybody can deny even the mirror, even the leftist at the mirror can't deny that margaret thatcher brought about meaningful change and moving on the sun . we've got train the sun. we've got train strikers balls to britain . so strikers balls to britain. so this is apparently there's going to be oh, there's a christmas knees up. they're having a party. and that's made a lot of people angry, apparently, although that's what i'd do if i'd blagged a lot of time off. and finally, the daily star has skate britain with the biggest snow bomb for two years. so it looks like we could have a white christmas or at least an ice rink monday. but yeah, to discuss with my panel, i want to go back to the i the first paper

we looked at which we've discussed touched on this already tonight but the tories are losing voters to farage amid anger over high migration and you know, we're talking about this, but here are the numbers and they're incredibly people. 63% of voters, almost two thirds of voters think the net migration is currently too high. and growing numbers see it as the most important policy issue . the most important policy issue. i mean. simon do you think rishi has really dropped the ball? >> it's flailing all over the place. rishi sunak is flailing all over the place and reform. i think these figures will continue to increase as we get closer to a general election. i think it's a real problem for the conservatives. they're going they're going to really struggle and the whole rwanda policy, which about, is which we've talked about, is a real key point in this general election. 63% are very unhappy with the current situation in terms of immigration. >> yeah. and of course, the rwanda plan is for people who are coming across the channel illegally , but they form illegally, but they form a relatively small part, highly visible, but relatively small

part of total migration. i mean , part of total migration. i mean, the total number in a year, the year to june 2023 was almost 1.3 million people entering the country . obviously, a lot of country. obviously, a lot of people left. so the net migration figure is around 740,000. i believe . but i mean, 740,000. i believe. but i mean, emma, this is this is insane. insane, insane. >> completely . scene is the >> completely. scene is the word. >> you look at it on a graph and, you know, we saw we've seen immigration climb from from the 90s and then obviously it was high before brexit and then it sort of wobbles a bit and then it suddenly just shot up to just insane levels given the kind of country history would allow country in history would allow this of to happen . this kind of thing to happen. >> i mean, it's just completely mad and i think actually that the numbers in the polls are indicative also of what i think most people recognise, which is that there's no clearly no not enough political will, particularly in the leadership of the conservative party, not at large. of course, there are some people who really do want to it, the under labour

to fix it, but the under labour it would be worse and so i think a lot of people will turn to reform. and i wonder, looking at the 11, whether and also the 63, which are obviously the target audience for reform , whether audience for reform, whether they can actually get up to say, 20% in the polls and essentially become a kingmaker. yeah, they would become second party. sort of. yeah, exactly . yeah. so of. yeah, exactly. yeah. so i think they could take such a large bite out of both main parties that they could in a situation where you have a hung parliament that they could really have quite a big impact regardless of proportional representation. i mean , neil, representation. i mean, neil, we're talking a lot about reform, but obviously ukip, you know, a approach a lot of these issues in a similar way. >> so is this music to your ears as well? i mean, not the issue itself, but the fact that it could boost your party? >> absolutely . and you know, the >> absolutely. and you know, the tories are a complete utter waste space. what what do waste of space. what what do they stand for? what have they donein they stand for? what have they done in their 13 in done in their 13 years in office? which corresponds to

anything which is remotely conservative? when david cameron was elected in 2010, he was talking about bringing net migration down to tens of migration down to the tens of thousands net migration now three quarters of a million a yeah three quarters of a million a year. you know, we could have a population of 85 million by 2040. wow. the population is now 67 million. we've added 8 million to our population in the last 20 years. i mean , i think i last 20 years. i mean, i think i want to get on one of those empty planes to rwanda to myself in order to escape from what britain is being turned into. yeah, because we have a conservative government that is comprehensive and deliberately betrayed our people. they have been a calculated deceit on immigration. they're always talking about immigration control . well, you know, we will control. well, you know, we will do whatever it takes. they do absolutely nothing . the whole absolutely nothing. the whole point of the brexit reference , point of the brexit reference, adam, was to take back control in so many different ways. and particularly of immigration. but most of this immigration is not from the eu, it's from outside the eu, which we've always been

able to control. and in the last 13 years, even when we were in the eu, the tories did absolutely nothing. you know, they thumbed noses they have thumbed their noses at they have thumbed their noses at the people overwhelm the british people who overwhelm for as as i can remember , for as long as i can remember, to have registered their dissent from this paralysis . yeah, and from this paralysis. yeah, and the tories have done absolutely nothing. but of course, the trouble is the tory elite, like the labour elite, are globalist liberals . fundamentally, they liberals. fundamentally, they want to be pally with the international list chums were on the international gravy train. these international jobs. yeah. these international jobs. yeah. the un and god knows what. and they don't want to satisfy the desires of those who actually put them in their positions of power in the united kingdom. the voters they actually have a contempt for ordinary people. >> and the irony is that on the on the daily express, the conservative party chairman has come out saying, don't write us off. tories planning an election battle . and what's really fun is battle. and what's really fun is that it says rishi sunak can

call a snap election at any time. i think he's far away from calling the snap election. i think at least 12 months away from that for sure. but credit to the chairman of the conservative party coming out fighting. >> but yeah, i mean, do you think i mean, because a year is a long time in politics, do you think do you think things could swing for think swing around for the i think things could change. things could really change. >> there's all play >> i think there's all to play for this. he got the for in this. if he got the rwanda policy through and it was a tough policy and which i support and they started moving people that people over to rwanda, that would count for a heck of a lot. and those polling figures that we front of the we saw on the front of the i newspaper could change. but but it's a real mixed picture . and it's a real mixed picture. and nobody's in love with starmer . nobody's in love with starmer. they're not in love with sunak. so we've nigel in the so but we've got nigel in the jungle coming out of there. he'll be very popular. it's a real bag at least stands real mixed bag at least stands for he's not. for something he's not. >> these, you know, labour and tories identical the moment. >> i think that the conservative, the way, the conservative, the only way, the conservative, the only way, the conservative party could turn it around just be brave. around is to just be brave. yeah. because so far as we've

already discussed , you know, already discussed, you know, it's taken them so long to get anything done . and then as we've anything done. and then as we've not seen very much come out of that at all anyway , i think that that at all anyway, i think that they need to be brave and actually starmer potentially by, by saying like we've seen with him talking about margaret thatcher whenever he opens his mouth, he screws up . so if he mouth, he screws up. so if he does, if he just sits on his hands, he might win, he might be fine. but if he continues, who's actually doing something ? and at actually doing something? and at some point he is going to have to be a bit more proactive. yeah, i think it's very unpredictable which way this could swing . but i am, as could swing. but i am, as somebody who has voted conservative lviv in the past, don't feel particularly confident that even with all the bravery in the world, that they can necessarily actually accomplish enough to convince the british public that they can be trusted. >> and it's i mean, it's a structural thing for the uk as well. and it goes to the heart

of our psyche because we've we've become dependent on mass migration to provide cheap laboun migration to provide cheap labour. so that's an addiction. it's yeah, it's an addiction. it's yeah, it's an addiction. it's like. simon evans described it as throwing kindling on a fire. the gdp , you know, fire. the gdp, you know, increases, but gdp per capita and people feel richer and people don't feel richer themselves . no, no. themselves. no, no. >> and it's to support employees who exactly. who want cheap labour. exactly. but real and then we're not but the real and then we're not investing in technology and increasing productivity and with investing in technology and inlarge ng productivity and with investing in technology and inlarge numberrctivity and with investing in technology and inlarge number of vity and with investing in technology and inlarge number of economic/ith a large number of economic inactive people that's got larger during the pandemic who are of working age, who should be in employment, we should be getting off benefits into getting people off benefits into those so we don't have to those jobs. so we don't have to bnng those jobs. so we don't have to bring over from india and bring people over from india and elsewhere through legal elsewhere either through legal migration in to fill those jobs. and that's where government has failed a number of years. failed over a number of years. >> and we've been talking about margaret but what she margaret thatcher. but what she had like her or had was whether you like her or not, whether you think that not, and whether you think that she was good for the country or not, what she did was the not, what she did have was the courage be disliked. and courage to be disliked. and those leadership those who are in leadership positions not positions in both parties do not have the courage to be disliked.

so if the conservative party were enough to willing were brave enough to be willing to the next election, but to lose the next election, but to lose the next election, but to something the time they to do something in the time they have left, they might just win the next election. it's a bit like sort of if you're like christ, sort of if you're willing to lose your life, you might willing to lose your life, you migthis is a leopard that can't >> this is a leopard that can't change its the idea that change its spots. the idea that rishi sunak could be i mean, he is colourless nerd, is a colourless little nerd, isn't really? the idea isn't he, really? and the idea that inspire anybody to that he could inspire anybody to do beyond do anything is beyond comprehension. know , he comprehension. you know, he isn't just isn't going to it isn't just isn't going to do it the entire conservative cabinet. i you name half of i mean, can you name half of them even three of them and them or even three of them and bringing back david cameron just puts the tin lid on it, doesn't it? the tories have reverted to default setting the old elite are firm back in their chairs for 12 months and we're going to face a wipe—out what we really needin face a wipe—out what we really need in this country is what happened to the conservative party in canada in the 1990s where were reduced one where they were reduced to one seat, right. and then the party had start again from the had to start again from the bottom. and looks like we bottom. and it looks like we need get the whole need to get rid of the whole rotten carcase and that one seat

will nigel farage. will be nigel farage. >> coming up, we've got more of tomorrow's newspapers front pages. we've got the telegraph, the and the mail. still the guardian and the mail. still to come with live reaction in the studio from tonight's top punst the studio from tonight's top pundits they'll be pundits. and they'll be nominating headline nominating their headline heroes and of day , and back page zeroes of the day, seeing a couple of minutes

welcome back. let's run through some more of your christmas pictures. suzette, all the way from johannesburg in south africa has sent in a picture of her tree. thanks so much for tuning into suzette. that looks like two trees. that's two trees, i believe, unless it's next mirror. it's beautiful. that's yeah, lots. lots of lighting. nice festive cushion there as well . and a little there as well. and a little santa head on the on the shelf. although the rest of the body is under there. otherwise santa is dead. phillip now, in the

south—west of france has also sent in a more stripped back festive display. thanks again to our international viewers, philip. that is. our international viewers, philip. that is . i mean, when philip. that is. i mean, when you said stripped back that that is that is that is very minimalist. it's nice, is that is that is very minimalist . it's nice, though. minimalist. it's nice, though. i like the i like the loveheart made out of rubber bands and the nice little little glass. it looks like a nice window seat to sit in and sip a lovely glass of chateau marmont , if that's a chateau marmont, if that's a thing that exists. and finally , thing that exists. and finally, michaela in brighton has sent in a picture of her lovely ceiling display. so good to see the cameras pointing up . nice high cameras pointing up. nice high ceiling there as well . classic ceiling there as well. classic brighton architecture and those lovely what do you call those things that stretch out strings, strings , streams, streets . i strings, streams, streets. i don't think they're either of those things, but they look beautiful . they're made out of beautiful. they're made out of foil trimming and trimmings. they're called trimmings, apparently. trim apparently. of course, you trim them scissors then them with some scissors and then stretch out. anyway, thanks stretch them out. anyway, thanks so much for sending in your lovely decoration to so much for sending in your loveus decoration to so much for sending in your loveus all decoration to so much for sending in your loveus all festive:ion to so much for sending in your loveus all festive mood . get us all in the festive mood.

two papers for now two final papers for you now with actually, we've got with three. actually, we've got the guardian , which has starmer the guardian, which has starmer saying labour will not turn on the spending taps if it wins election . the leader's speech is election. the leader's speech is likely to raise fears among senior mps of public sector cuts. well, it's not going to raise fears amongst the public of public sector cuts, but the pubuc of public sector cuts, but the public wants public sector cuts. we've got this bloated public sector that desperately needs to be tamed. we need we need javier milei to come in with his chainsaw. they also have no science to phasing out fossil fuels, says cop leader. that's the that's the danger of having having cop 28 in an oil based country . he's going to say no. country. he's going to say no. actually the fossil fuels are great and they don't affect the climate. the daily telegraph now has sunak to block bbc licence fee increase . finally, he's fee increase. finally, he's doing something for the working man uk lawyers could be stationed in rwanda , no doubt to stationed in rwanda, no doubt to process claims as i will analyse

every hospital scan under labour and there's also a story down at the bottom the woke left is in alliance with islamists. so we're going to have a look at that in a moment. and the daily mail has pm warns bbc over biggest licence fee increase for 40 years. that seems to be a direct contradiction of the daily telegraph but we've got them both here to provide a balanced view. but yeah , let's balanced view. but yeah, let's have a look at the guardian first with my panel . so starmer first with my panel. so starmer says labour will not turn on spending tax if it wins the election. yeah right . election. yeah right. >> this is starmer playing the blair playbook. that's the reality of it. is if i'm not mistaken, tony blair came out praising margaret thatcher. yeah starmer's doing the same . and starmer's doing the same. and now he's saying we'll stick to the conservative spending plans, which is exactly what gordon brown and tony blair did in 97. >> and the conservative spending plans are ridiculously high anyway. so it's not a great

thing to stick to . there's this thing to stick to. there's this there's this here thing here. i will analyse every hospital scan under labour. >> terrifying. this. >> terrifying. this. >> this scares me. i think this is great. they're going to look at everybody's kidneys, you know, find out, you know, they'll use ai know, find out, you know, they'll use al to find new diagnostic treatments. >> i i wouldn't rely on >> i mean, i wouldn't rely on it. are certain aspects it. there are certain aspects of, human intuition and of, of human intuition and expert intuition that can't just be, you know , devolved to an be, you know, devolved to an algorithm. sure, i'm sure that al can be used as effective ai can be used as effective tools, but i'm very sceptical, not only about depending on al , not only about depending on al, but also on the ethics of using ai generally . and this is a good ai generally. and this is a good example of what i meant when i said that whenever labour are proactive about proposing exactly what it is that they would do, yeah, people will see it and run a mile because i don't think this seems like a very sensible idea as much as i do admit that. i'm sure ai could be used as a good tool. yeah >> neil, just quickly, let's >> and neil, just quickly, let's have a look at this.

>> the sunak going to block >> the sunak is going to block the licence fee increase, the bbc licence fee increase, although the mail that although the mail reports that there the biggest there could be the biggest licence increase licence fee increase for 40 years, i believe it's going to rise close £200. well it will rise close to £200. well it will only £200 if the only rise to £200 if the government validates it. >> and that certainly isn't going an election going to happen in an election yeah going to happen in an election year. but i think that what we should is actually divide the should do is actually divide the bbc and start bbc licence fee up and start distributing it to all the other station in competition station that are in competition with increasing with it and actually increasing their viewership rather than losing it. >> yeah, yeah, that's a great plan. maybe. maybe i'll be able to buy a helicopter anyway, it's time headline heroes and time now for headline heroes and back zeroes . emma, who time now for headline heroes and back zeroes. emma, who is back page zeroes. emma, who is your headline hero? >> my headline hero is emily hand. >> my headline hero is emily hand . who is israeli irish hand. who is the israeli irish citizen who was kidnapped by hamas, was released this week . hamas, was released this week. and there is a great photograph you can see of her there holding up her own hostage photograph and smiling. and i know that that hostage post i've seen in the streets of britain and also elsewhere around the world being torn down. and i just think she's a very brave little girl.

and we've heard that she's been only speaking in a whisper because the children were so badly treated and beaten if they made a sound. so she's obviously suffered a lot. and there she is holding her own hostage photograph and or poster. holding her own hostage photograph and or poster . and i photograph and or poster. and i think she's incredibly think that she's incredibly brave. amazing. brave. yeah amazing. >> hero. neil, who is youn >> e- e after that, i youn >> after that, i hesitate >> well, after that, i hesitate to anybody all. but to nominate anybody at all. but but i'm actually going to but but i'm actually going to nominate duke of westminster nominate the duke of westminster who deserves praise for dumping the duchess of sussex the duke and duchess of sussex from the wedding of the year invitation list. and he's the godfather. he's the godfather. exactly and so i think he speaks for us all. yeah. >> yeah. and keeping it like my hero is laurie ferrari, who's the girlfriend of nigel farage. and i saw an interview with her. i've never met her or heard of her before. and i think it's a real credit that she's stepped forward ed into the centre of the media and she's supporting her boyfriend, nigel farage, while he's in the jungle. i think it's well, i did the same for christine.

>> yeah , i struggled along in >> yeah, i struggled along in the first class hotel out there for fortnight until she was out again . again. >> it must have been terrible for you. >> well, i had to cope. i had the emotional trauma to deal with so. and no, your back. >> page zero. >> page zero. >> my zero is leo varadkar. i thought you see me for a moment? leo varadkar for a number of different reasons. one of them is the irish shocker prime is he's the irish shocker prime minister. yeah. so he referred to hand as being lost and to emily hand as being lost and found rather than kidnapped. >> gaza is a giant ikea and she just wandered off. >> but he's also he's he's not had a very good week . leo had a very good week. leo varadkar he's also been in response to the so first there was this stabbing in dublin that was this stabbing in dublin that was followed by protests and a riot . we saw conor mcgregor, the riot. we saw conor mcgregor, the mma fighter , criticising mma fighter, criticising government policy . he's now government policy. he's now being investigated by the police. leo varadkar using this as an excuse to push through his draconian hate crime laws, which would be the most sensible, the

worst censorship, the persecution, basically the persecution, basically the persecution is somebody using, you know, abusing hate speech. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> who's your back? >> who's your back? >> well, it's got to be starmer, isn't for his attempt to at isn't it, for his attempt to at cross—dressing to pass himself off as margaret thatcher and we know that he can't define what a woman is, even though he's now trying to be one. but in a blonde wig and a blue two piece suit with pearls . he doesn't convince. >> i can't say i don't want to see it. >> man. oh simon ridley, sir matthew ryecroft, home office officials , they come before the officials, they come before the home affairs select committee . home affairs select committee. lee anderson questions him. they can't us, officials of can't tell us, as officials of the home office, how many people the home office, how many people the returning country of the returning to the country of origin, immigrants. origin, illegal immigrants. >> incredible. we don't just >> incredible. so we don't just have borders. don't have have open borders. we don't have any who's coming over have open borders. we don't have any who's who's coming over have open borders. we don't have any who's and who's coming over have open borders. we don't have any who's and who's leaving. over have open borders. we don't have any who's and who's leaving. iver and who's and who's leaving. i mean, that is that is terrifying i >> -- >> what a joke. >> what a joke. >> anyway, thanks for watching. and thanks to you all for joining me tonight. we've had emma webb . yeah. and simon

emma webb. yeah. and simon danczuk and anglia are standing in for mark due to a family bereavement. all of us at gb news are sending love and prayers to mark and all his family and head. do stay tuned for headlines tonight and goodbye and enjoy that warm feeling inside . feeling inside. >> aside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from gb news. i'm ellie glaisyer. it's been a very cloudy and damp day for much of england and wales today, but drier and brighter across much of scotland and northern ireland. pressure northern ireland. low pressure sits the southwest, sits out towards the southwest, slowly its way towards us slowly moving its way towards us through and into through this evening and into the of the new working the start of the new working week, bringing with it some very strong some heavy strong winds and some heavy rainfall overnight rainfall as well. overnight tonight, turning tonight, this rainfall turning tonight, this rainfall turning to across the hills to snow across the hills of wales , parts northern england wales, parts of northern england as some snowfall as well, seeing some snowfall building early hours building up into the early hours of morning, much of monday morning, but a much milder night across the southwest drier, colder southwest east, drier, colder across parts of northern ireland and perhaps as as

and scotland, perhaps as low as —6 or —8 into the start of monday. so a dry, crisp, but bright start across scotland and northern ireland. snow showers pushing in along those eastern coasts, bringing coasts, perhaps bringing some icy through monday icy stretches through monday morning. rainfall totals morning. and rainfall totals across southwest bringing across the southwest bringing some disruption during some travel disruption during the hour. rain the morning rush hour. rain continues across much of the southern half of the uk with some snow across the highlands of the pennines and parts of nonh of the pennines and parts of north wales well. day north wales as well. a mild day across southwest , maybe 8 to across the southwest, maybe 8 to 10 degrees, but still feeling cold sunshine across cold despite the sunshine across scotland northern ireland. scotland and northern ireland. tuesday starts another cloudy and for much of england and damp day for much of england and damp day for much of england and some snow showers and wales. some snow showers across again, but across the pennines again, but rain , sleet hill snow rain, sleet and hill snow gradually clearing its way towards south—east go towards the south—east as we go into tuesday afternoon with some brighter developing brighter spells developing in the northern ireland the west northern ireland and scotland of the scotland seeing the best of the sunshine, continuing to stay sunshine, but continuing to stay cold for all of us on cold and sunny for all of us on wednesday wet wednesday before further wet and windy arrives windy weather arrives on thursday looks like things thursday day. looks like things are heating up . are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor of weather on .

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