well . well. >> good afternoon, britain . it's >> good afternoon, britain. it's 12:00 on monday, the 4th of december. the big migration gamble rumours are swirling around westminster that the prime minister will today announce drastic action to slash immigration. >> we'll bring you the latest live from downing street as we get it . get it. >> or cut your cloth . the prime >> or cut your cloth. the prime minister is also expected to block a 9% increase in the bbc licence fee after he warned the corporation that it needs to be realistic about what the public can afford. could it be a game over for the telly tax .7 over for the telly tax.7 >> this climate conference disarray chaos in dubai . as the disarray chaos in dubai. as the president of cop 28 says, there's no science behind just stopping oil warning that phasing out coal, oil and gas would take the world back into

caves.is would take the world back into caves. is he right . caves. is he right. and a bit of a sad story. >> edinburgh zoo is bidding an emotional farewell to the uk's only giant pandas. yes chan chan and yang guan will be taken back to china on a boeing 777 cargo plane after spending 12 years here in britain . here in britain. >> yes, they were only supposed to be here for ten years as some kind of loan scheme. right. but then because of the pandemic, it got extended and now, sadly, they're off. they're going to be bundled into this aircraft and off they go to china where they will be. they'll be quarantined for i don't know how long for while. >> i mean, it's quite ironic that things going to china should quarantine, perhaps it should quarantine, perhaps it should have been the other way round back in back in january 2020. but, you know, who am i to

talk? i 2020. but, you know, who am i to talk.7 i just feel sad that we're not getting anything in return for these these pandas for sending these these pandas back.i for sending these these pandas back. i can't. >> tell me what you think we should be getting in return. i have a modest proposal. >> return >> okay. which is that in return for sending these pandas back to china, should give us back china, they should give us back hong kong. >> right . and why do you believe that? >> well, i don't think we should have ever given in have ever given it up in the first place. >> was a lease, though, >> it was on a lease, though, was it not.7 >> so the wider area hong >> so the wider area of hong kong was on a 99 year lease, but the island itself of kong the island itself of hong kong dates back to a way earlier treaty and was ceded to britain in perpetuity . but sadly, all in perpetuity. but sadly, all given away in 1997. >> should we be getting hong >> so should we be getting hong kong back in return for two pandas? controversial always pandas? controversial as always from harwood. from tom harwood. >> i think it's the snp that'll be upset. can't be most upset. they can't make any jokes the number any more jokes about the number of tory and compare that to of tory mps and compare that to pandas. >> very quickly, i'd >> but just very quickly, i'd just what the just like to tell you what the names pandas mean. names of these two pandas mean. so is the male panda so yang guang is the male panda and his name means sunshine in mandarin, which is rather nice. and tian the female and tian shan is the female panda name means sweetie. panda whose name means sweetie. but unfortunately, they didn't

procreate, did they? >> didn't . which were >> they didn't. which they were meant but all of your panda meant to. but all of your panda thoughts are very welcome at gbviews@gbnews.com. and of course, the other big news, that migration announcement we're expecting any moment now. all that to come after your latest headunes that to come after your latest headlines with tatiana . tom headlines with tatiana. tom thank you. >> this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the home secretary is due to unveil new measures to bnng is due to unveil new measures to bring down legal migration after figures a record high. james figures hit a record high. james cleverly is expected to tell the commons that the minimum salary requirement for migrants coming to britain will increase to around £38,000. that's up from just over £26,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what is necessary to bring down net migration after official figures hit highs . of official figures hit highs. of 745,000 in 2020 . the ministry of 745,000 in 2020. the ministry of defence's plan for new weapons has a budget black hole of £169

has a budget black hole of £16.9 billion. the national audit office said. the mod's ten year programme until 2033 was unaffordable and the projected deficit is the biggest since 2012. it puts the estimated cost at more than £300 billion against the budget of just over. 288 billion. well the prime minister has said the bbc should be realistic about licence fee increases. it's currently £159 per year, but it's thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9% next year to just over £173. the culture secretary , lucy frazer culture secretary, lucy frazer says she wanted it to rise by an appropriate amount, but the planned rise would be a very high level amid cost of living pressures . there are reports pressures. there are reports rishi sunak could block the increase, though it's understood no decisions been made . no decisions have been made. more than 30 flood warnings have been issued as the risk of snow subsides . heavy rains expected subsides. heavy rains expected across large parts of the uk

following a night of subzero temperatures and heavy snowfall in the north. more than 1500 homes are still without power. in cumbria, nearly 40 schools are closed. the yellow alerts for rain are in place across southern england, south—east wales and into the midlands until 6:00 tonight. now the president of the cop 28 climate summit in dubai says he's surprised by reports suggesting that he denies a key aspect of climate science. sultan al jaber attracted criticism in november after he said there was no scientific basis for limiting a rise in global temperatures to 1.5. speaking at the summit today, he said his comments were taken out of context in an attempt to undermine the aim of the conference as he reiterated his full belief in climate science . science. >> and i have repeatedly said in many occasions and in many different platforms that it is the science that have guided the principles of our strategy as

cop 28 presidency. i and have been very crystal clear about that. and i hope that this time i am clearer in getting this message across . message across. >> almost £4 billion is being put into a rail project for the north of england . ministers are north of england. ministers are promising to invest £3.9 billion to upgrade the trans pennine route connecting manchester, huddersfield, leeds and york . huddersfield, leeds and york. it's after the prime minister scrapped the northern leg of the hs2 route between manchester and birmingham year. a number birmingham this year. a number of tory mps are calling for a new body to help infected flood victims, with some backbenchers set to join forces with labour on payouts over the scandal . on payouts over the scandal. thousands of people contracted hiv and hepatitis after being given contaminate aged blood products in the 1970s and 80. as reports suggest that ministers are unlikely to shift their positions. while the inquiry is ongoing. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves confirmed labour

will support an amendment with a body created to pay out compensation for the bodies of 11 climbers have been recovered after a volcano erupted in indonesia. the merapi volcano spewed ash almost two miles into the sky. authorities raised the alert to the second highest level, blocking residents from venturing too close. a further eruption early this morning forced the search to be suspended. merapi is one of the most active volcanoes on the island of sumatra . and as you've island of sumatra. and as you've been hearing, the uk's only giant pandas are setting off for china after spending 12 years in scotland, edinburgh zoo's star attractions yang guang and tian tian, also known as sunshine and sweetie came to edinburgh zoo in 2011. it was hoped they'd breed while at the zoo, but they didn't produce the cub visitors were given a final chance to say goodbye on thursday . this is gb goodbye on thursday. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your

car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily and. emily >> good afternoon, britain now i should say before we dive into the show, we are expecting a statement in the house of commons later this afternoon, a seismic statement on migration, perhaps something that will change the course of how we employ our new points based system for people coming legally to this country. we're keeping a close eye on developments in westminster and will bring you news as soon as we get it. our political editor will be live in downing street with us a little bit later. yes. >> now the culture secretary, lucy frazer , has said that a £15 lucy frazer, has said that a £15 rise in the bbc licence fee would be high. that's amid reports that rishi sunak could block a 9% hike in the annual bill. >> yes, the rise would push the charge up to £173. it currently

stands at £159. >> that's a big increase and the government is expected to make the announcement very shortly . the announcement very shortly. >> but let's get more on this with the conservative mp, sir michael fabricant . sir michael, michael fabricant. sir michael, people in the bbc say they're strapped for cash, that this organisation needs this income simply to stay level where should the government set it ? should the government set it? >> well, first of all, i think we're all strapped for cash. and it's not just the bbc, but the bbc has to live within its means. and you know , last night means. and you know, last night i was watching bbc television on iplayer and i saw two dramas. one was made by an american company, which was interview with the vampires, and the other one was a great one, which i think you'd like. tom called the newsreader made by abc australia about a newsreader back in the 19805. about a newsreader back in the 1980s. very very good. but you know what was streaming it and that's the thing, you know,

nowadays most people are watching television streaming and the problem is the bbc is up against amazon prime, it's against amazon prime, it's against netflix. it disney, paramount and all the rest of it. and i just think, you know, the time for the licence fee is rapidly growing to an end. we have to think of a better way. >> michael , all have to think of a better way. >> michael, all you. am i right in thinking you've worked for the bbc in the past? >> yes. a long time ago, yes , >> yes. a long time ago, yes, you have. >> would it be fair to say that perhaps bbc doesn't always perhaps the bbc doesn't always spend the money it receives from the licence fee as efficiently as it could? i imagine for example, for a program like this , yes, they may have a huge number of production staff, a huge number of research and things and actually they could make cuts quite easily. well i think the bbc, in fairness to the bbc, they made a lot of cuts already . already. >> but you're right. i mean, there's a huge infrastructure. and what the bbc is trying to do

at the moment is try and centralise some of its activities . so, for example, activities. so, for example, some of the research done by bbc news night, which hardly gets any viewers nowadays, will now go into a central pool. so it can be used on the bbc websites. bbc local radio bbc's television nationally . bbc radio nationally nationally. bbc radio nationally . maybe the time for the bbc to concentrate on maybe just for television channels and commercial allies, radio one and radio two is coming along and i think it's time for the bbc to rethink that. maybe the licence fee and the small amount of money it makes from selling television programmes abroad , television programmes abroad, you know, is coming to an end . you know, is coming to an end. they need to make alternative funds from other sources. michael i think that's a really incisive point because i find it very odd that the government is saying how much money the bbc could have in the first place. >> it seems like a pretty anti—growth mindset . ultimately,

anti—growth mindset. ultimately, if the bbc set their own income, they'd be competing probably more with the likes of netflix and disney, which cost a lot less. they could sell that product internationally and maybe not be talking about cuts, but instead be talking about growth . why do the bbc not want growth. why do the bbc not want to contemplate a world where they're set free from the government and allowed to perhaps grow and expand overseas as well? >> i know all the argument that i heard them, you know, years ago we used to discuss this when i was a member of the culture, media and sport committee, and the bbc would say, well, we'd lose the character of the bbc if we were to be commercial. but you know what? you look at bbc one now and maybe bbc two, and certainly bbc three television, and they are trying to go for a maximum audience. they are trying to be commercial. yes, there are some brilliant television shows on bbc four and some on bbc2 , which you wouldn't

some on bbc2, which you wouldn't get on a commercial network. but you know what? they have arts television in the us and people are prepared to pay for it. and i just think , you know, the i just think, you know, the time, as i've said over forced licence fee on the bbc is well and truly over and when it comes to worthwhile services like the bbc world service, yes, that should be continued to be funded directly by the government. it's in effect our propaganda arm . in effect our propaganda arm. >> michael there are so many would never admit that, michael. >> there are so many conservative mps who would agree with why the with you. it's a it's why the government not these government has not enacted these changes. much changes. if there's so much support for doing so. but while we've here, can i please we've got you here, can i please ask about what the ask you about what some of the big news today elsewhere, and this is migration. big news today elsewhere, and this is migration . we're this is migration. we're expecting big announcement, a expecting a big announcement, a big package of measures to bring that figure down that legal migration figure down later today. things like a big rise in the minimum salary threshold for skilled workers or an overhaul of the shortage occupation list. what could we

see here? >> well , see here? >> well, we're going to have to wait and see when the prime minister makes his statement. >> but, you know, a lot of these are robert jenrick plans which >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeent jenrick plans which >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeen heldick plans which >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeen held back ans which >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeen held back for which >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeen held back for s01ich >> but, you know, a lot of these are ibeen held back for so long. had been held back for so long. but polling now that rishi but with polling now that rishi sunakis but with polling now that rishi sunak is less popular than liz truss was when she was the least popular, if you see what i mean. he knows that he's got to deliver and actually i think rishi sunaks heart is in the right place. but the time for talk is over. it's time for delivery and he knows that . delivery and he knows that. >> but the question is, is it going to be enough or too little too late? perhaps there's going too late? perhaps there's going to be some emergency . to be some emergency. >> well, yeah, there's going to be some emergency legislation. i think, this thursday. so i'll just say to my colleagues, if you are hoping to get back to your constituencies, forget it, because think we're going to because i think we're going to have some legislation which will do what you've just said that's addressing of course, by the way, legal migration . what we way, legal migration. what we also have to address of course,

is illegal migration. when we made the rather silly promise , made the rather silly promise, in my opinion, to stop the boats, we'll never stop the boats, we'll never stop the boats . i boats, we'll never stop the boats. i mean, boats, we'll never stop the boats . i mean, that boats, we'll never stop the boats. i mean, that was my promise . something you could promise. something you could never deliver. there's always going to be odd person going to be the odd person coming across in a rowing boat or whatever, but we can certainly by three certainly reduce by three quarters or more the number of boats coming across. if we bring in the right legislation. but of course, we're scared to say , you course, we're scared to say, you know what, we're going to have to get rid of the human rights act, which the government, by the way, hasn't been a part of since 1947 or 48, when the court of human rights came into being . of human rights came into being. it's actually only been in in operation since tony blair brought it in. maybe it's time to get rid of that. i don't know. but we have got to be imaginative about that, just as we've got to be imaginative , we've got to be imaginative, too, about funding. >> well, there we go. michael fabricant, thank you so much. because also we'll be speaking a

little bit later to charlie peters about what france is doing , peters about what france is doing, perhaps ignoring the echr itself . but michael fabricant itself. but michael fabricant there, the conservative mp for lichfield. yes i'm looking forward to hearing more about that. >> very interesting. we're now joined by gb news political correspondent katherine forster catherine, what detail have you heard around this big announcement that we're expecting to hear later today ? expecting to hear later today? >> yes , well, we're expecting it >> yes, well, we're expecting it to come some time after 3:00 this afternoon soon, james cleverly, the home secretary expected to announce a whole raft of measures to tackle legal migration. we talk a lot about stopping the boats. don't we? but a couple of weeks ago, we had that incredibly high figure , had that incredibly high figure, three quarters of a million in net migration into this country from a government who spent 13 years pledging to get it down for many years to the tens of thousands. so we're expecting various things to change. firstly, the minimum salary that

people will need to earn to come here. it's currently 26,000 and it could go up potentially to about 38. so that's a big increase. and then also restrictions on health and social care visas . now we know social care visas. now we know only the nhs workers, social care workers are desperately neededin care workers are desperately needed in this country, but it sounds like there will be a clampdown on depends . it's clampdown on depends. it's coming along. the government has already announced something similar with people coming to study and just to give you an example, there were 144,000 visas granted for social and care workers last year and nhs workers. but . 174,000 additional workers. but. 174,000 additional for their dependents. so that's obviously a very big number. so it sounds like there will be restrictions on that. also, they're likely to over haul this shortage occupation list. this list, which includes even things like ballet dancer cars and

where employers can bring people in at 20% less than the going rate here to fill those jobs. so sounds like some big announcements coming . and of announcements coming. and of course, the government have got to do something about these numbers and do it fast because a general election is looming . the general election is looming. the latest it could be is january 20th, 25. but they will need to show results and they're running out of time . out of time. >> well, katherine forster, thank you so much for bringing us those details . huge us those details. huge announcements expected from the government in the next few hours. and of course, we'll be bringing more and more as we get it on that detail. but let's dig into possibly mean into what it could possibly mean now. joining us is the former home office special adviser, claire pearsall and claire, the prime minister really had to do something like this today. it's interesting that we both have this news about lawyers and rwanda , and we're now expecting rwanda, and we're now expecting significant news on legal

migration to a double pronged approach . approach. >> well, that's right. and the prime minister is under enormous pressure to reduce the legal migration figures , which, as you migration figures, which, as you say, stood at 745,000 for the past year , but also to deal with past year, but also to deal with illegal migration. so in order to do so, he's going to have to make some really tough choices. and i think it's quite interesting with the legal migration statement that will be coming this afternoon is what impact that is going to have on the health and social care sector. we know that there are over 100,000 vacancies within that sector . so by limiting the that sector. so by limiting the amount of visas, what is going to be the knock on impact of that? do we have the people here ready to fill those spaces ? ready to fill those spaces? because at the moment the nhs is on its knees and we need desperately to have those positions filled ? positions filled? >> claire it's interesting because we're getting a few mixed messages from the prime minister in recent weeks. we saw him stand up and talk about the need to expand high potential

visas . he need to expand high potential visas. he said that graduates from the top 50 universities around the world should be able to come here for two or more years with their family and explore britain and find job opportunities . cities. i guess opportunities. cities. i guess the criticism could be that he just wants a rich people to come here and not those on lower salaries. >> no bad thing, perhaps ? >> no bad thing, perhaps? >> no bad thing, perhaps? >> well, it does appear a bit like that. >> and when you start looking at foreign students, for example, i don't think anybody could suggest that it is a bad thing to have these these students come over if they're paying to study here, they have to prove that they can pay to live here. they've got visa fees, health surcharge fees. it's an enormous cost to them . and that's what cost to them. and that's what keeps these universities up and running so that our own people can also attend them. but i think that it's right to also look at the amount of dependence that somebody can bring over. it's quite understandable that if you are a phd student, that

you may well be married and have children, but you don't need to bnng children, but you don't need to bring an extended family with you.soi bring an extended family with you. so i think it's right to look at it that way, but it does have some mixed messaging coming out the prime minister. on out from the prime minister. on the one hand saying this is a great country, everybody should come study our come here, come and study at our universities and then on the other hand, well, actually, no, only you can come and only some of you can come and not many people. so i not bring as many people. so i think that needs to be a lot clearer. but it's going to be quite to what quite interesting to see what the does actually the home secretary does actually announce this afternoon. >> will indeed. thank >> yes, it will indeed. thank you much time, you very much for your time, claire former home claire pearsall former home office adviser . office special adviser. >> well, don't know about you, >> well, i don't know about you, emily, if someone emily, but i think if someone has loads of money and they want to bring all their to money this country, spend their money in this country, create jobs in this country, create jobs in this country, create jobs in this country, great. if they're going to a net dependent out going to be a net dependent out of this country and its welfare net, if they're going to come and take money, then not so great. and that seems to be the position that the government is moving to. >> yeah, maybe. i think the

issue of people is issue for a lot of people is depends. and i'm not sure everyone just depends. and i'm not sure evermany just depends. and i'm not sure ever many people just depends. and i'm not sure ever many people you just depends. and i'm not sure evermany people you couldust depends. and i'm not sure evermany people you could bring how many people you could bring with you on your own on one visa. it's quite extraordinary. and of course the of public and of course the use of public services astronomical as a services is astronomical as a result of that, particularly if you're low salary. so you're on a low salary. so you're on a low salary. so you're going to cover the you're not going to cover the costs for your family. that's for sure. >> exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> one. let us >> very interesting one. let us know what are >> very interesting one. let us knorhoping what are >> very interesting one. let us knorhoping the what are >> very interesting one. let us knorhoping the prime what are >> very interesting one. let us knorhoping the prime minister; you hoping the prime minister might announce later? >> we'll be getting to all >> well, we'll be getting to all of that after the break. we'll be turning our attention to two pandas united kingdom's pandas as the united kingdom's only giant pandas return to only two giant pandas return to china after the 12 year loan comes to an end. more

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> good afternoon, britain now this afternoon we've been talking about immigration or immigration, i should say, and the expected id announcements that the home secretary will make imminently this afternoon in the house of commons. but it's not just immigration that we're talking about . it's also we're talking about. it's also immigration. it is because is this is this is sad news after 12 years living at edinburgh zoo, the star residents , the zoo, the star residents, the uk's only two giant pandas, are returning to china today. yes, the decade long or more than decade long agreement with china cost the zoo £35,000 a month. whoa! and delivered key advancements in giant panda reproductive physiology ,

reproductive physiology, although they didn't quite get to reproduce , did they? to reproduce, did they? >> no, we haven't got any little pandas as a result. but anyway, with global populations now, steady hopes are high to keep giant pandas off the endangered species list. are scotland reporter tony mcguire. so edinburgh zoo for their final pubhc edinburgh zoo for their final public appearance . public appearance. >> 12 years have passed since yang wan and tian shan arrived in scotland to a pandemonium of fanfare . and just six months fanfare. and just six months after they met the public, the panda effect saw edinburgh zoo ticket sales spike 50. but the ten year loan extended by the pandemic has come to an end . and pandemic has come to an end. and yang wan and tian shan are headed back to china in the end, the pitter patter of tiny panda paws was not to be. but professor simon girling, head of veterinary services at the zoo, says the wealth of research knowledge gained from the pair is a valuable consolation prize not to be overlooked . not to be overlooked. >> i mean, we would obviously have loved to have had a panda cub and but that was not the main reason for having them

here. we were determined to set up a an international, collaborative scientific community to look at all aspects of panda conservation. and we succeeded in that over the last 12 years, leading the way in that research was kirsten wilson a phd student at edinburgh university, who's made leaps and boundsin university, who's made leaps and bounds in the field of panda reproductive physiology . reproductive physiology. >> one of the things i was really keen to do was to develop a giant panda pregnancy test. and even though we've not had and so even though we've not had success having here at success with having cubs here at the edinburgh zoo, they've shanshan and yangguan have still managed hugely managed to contribute hugely to that has been that research, which has been really good in terms of finding out more about their reproductive physiology . reproductive physiology. >> forget who could >> let's not forget who could possibly miss them more than the keepers who looked after them. day to day. as a senior animal keepen day to day. as a senior animal keeper, michael livingston was present on their first day at edinburgh zoo and he's still by their side right up until their last emotions have been building over the last week. >> they aren't pets because, you know, they're wild animals. but

you know , we definitely have you know, we definitely have a bond that we've built with them and that they've also built up a bond with us. so it's we have a have a nice working kind of relationship . and it's yeah , relationship. and it's yeah, it'll be very odd and odd and different with them not being here. >> michael joins a group of handlers and vets, chaperones yang wan and qianqian back to china , where they will be china, where they will be transferred into the care of the china wildlife conservation federation and settle into a months quarantine at the china giant panda conservation and research centre in ya'an, sichuan province. everyone who has worked closely with the pandas has spoke fondly of their unique personality as yang wan and tian shan will be sorely missed. much more than the hefty bamboo bill they leave behind . bamboo bill they leave behind. tony maguire, gb news, edinburgh i >> -- >> they're beautiful animals . >> they're beautiful animals. >> they're beautiful animals. >> they're beautiful animals. >> they are. they are . but let's

>> they are. they are. but let's get more on this now because tony maguire joins us live from edinburgh airport where the plane , tony, has not yet taken plane, tony, has not yet taken off, as far as we understand . off, as far as we understand. >> yes, that's correct. good afternoon. so just over my right shoulder, we can see the china southern cargo plane at and just around half an hour ago, we saw them loading two big black and white crates on which contain tian tian and yang guang and also a hefty supply of bamboo. you can't really go on a long haul flight without the snacks. and so we know that there's a bit of a delay which involved bringing some of the water through which the pandas need for the flight of the duration. i've been assured that there wasn't distilled down to 100 millilitre bottles, but eventually all of the water got onto the plane . and as far as we onto the plane. and as far as we know, the pandas are settled in and ready to take off. you can

maybe just about see the cargo door on the side of the plane still open. that just tells us that the crew of the plane are just doing some final checks and then before we know it, yang yang guang and tian tian will leave edinburgh after 12 long years here. now, as we heard in the report there, we didn't get that pitter patter of tiny panda paws and we all have a tongue twister in this channel. however, there were some huge advancements made . in our advancements made. in our understanding of the panda reproductive cycle , specifically reproductive cycle, specifically students were able to bring together their knowledge to create a set of five different panda pregnancy tests. and now this will help us understand the cycle of a panda, will understand the reproductive process, but also what might prevent pandas from reproducing as effectively as we might like . as effectively as we might like. now, china have begun started

reintroducing pandas into the wild. we know that there is a slight delay in their plans to do that. first, from the pandemic, which, of course , pandemic, which, of course, extended our pandas stay. but also the regeneration of the bamboo forests, which the pandas need to eat and to go. and they were originally carnivores, of course , in the wild. but these course, in the wild. but these days , as we all know, pandas days, as we all know, pandas love a good munch on the bamboo up to 38kg of bamboo shoots every single day for each panda . every single day for each panda. so no wonder it's taken a little extra time to load that flight with all the snacks. >> thank you very much, tony. i hope you're going to keep your eyes on that plane, so we'll come straight back to you when it does take off. a sad day for edinburgh, a day for our edinburgh, a sad day for our country , say. country, i'd say. >> and such a shame >> absolutely. and such a shame that things are all delayed by the such a and such the pandemic and such a and such a shame that they didn't have any baby pandas . any baby pandas. >> you make yourself laugh, don't you, tom? >> i at at least.

>> i do. at least. at least. there's one person laughing. well, coming up, a major package there's one person laughing. wepolicies ng up, a major package there's one person laughing. wepolicies ng reduce major package there's one person laughing. wepolicies ng reduce net)r package of policies to reduce net migration going to be migration is going to be unveiled this very afternoon . unveiled this very afternoon. we'll have all the latest after your headlines with tatiana . your headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you . this is the >> tom, thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom . the latest from the newsroom. the home secretary is due to unveil new measures to bring down legal migration after figures hit a record high last year. james cleverly is expected to tell the commons that the minimum salary requirement for migrants coming to britain will increase to around £38,000. that's up from just over £26,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what's necessary to bring down net migration after official figures hit highs of 745,000 in 2020, down king street says new measures will involve clamping down on those who seek to abuse legal routes into the country . meanwhile into the country. meanwhile downing street has rejected claims that the government will

give rwanda another £15 million to sign a new immigration treaty . it's understood the home secretary , james cleverly, is secretary, james cleverly, is close to finalising the plan after the supreme court ruled against it in november. the agreement could see british lawyers sent to rwanda to advise judges on asylum cases . the judges on asylum cases. the prime minister's said the bbc should be realistic about licence fee increases . it's licence fee increases. it's currently £159 per year, but it's thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9% next year to just over £173. the culture secretary, lucy frazer says she wanted it to rise by an appropriate amount, but the planned rise would be a very high level amid cost of living pressures. there are reports rishi sunak could block the increase, so it's understood no decisions been made . and decisions have been made. and more than 30 flood warnings have been issued as the risk of snow subsides . heavy rains expected subsides. heavy rains expected across large parts of the uk after a night of subzero temperatures and heavy snowfall in the north. more than 1000

homes were left without power over the weekend. in cumbria, nearly 40 schools there are closed today . the yellow alerts closed today. the yellow alerts for rain are in place across southern england, south east wales and into the midlands until 6:00 tonight . for more on until 6:00 tonight. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website gbnews.com . visit our website gbnews.com. >> well, after the break, we'll be welcome owing our panel leader of the climate party, ed gemmell and the reform uk candidate mark hoath . there's candidate mark hoath. there's lots of your views coming in, some jokes related to the pandas and immigration managed to make immigration related jokes about the pandas. >> yes , and indeed immigration >> yes, and indeed immigration related jokes , but we're talking related jokes, but we're talking about that and very controversial comments by the leader climate conference leader of the climate conference all to come very shortly

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on . sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> good afternoon, britain. now big news, of course, this afternoon , that migration afternoon, that migration announcement we're expecting from the home secretary this very afternoon. let's discuss that and indeed some other big stories of the day. we're joined on the sofas by the leader of the climate party, ed gemmell, and the reform uk candidate mark haworth . mark let's start with haworth. mark let's start with you. clearly we the government

has seen some of this polling over the weekend showing reform uk nipping at the heels of the conservative party. do you think this announcement we're expecting from the government, from the home secretary today is as a response to pressure from your party? >> well, it sounds like a panic, doesn't it? >> because you're right, the polls over the weekend had us as high as 11% in some of the polls we over the weekend. we saw over the weekend. >> and it strikes me as panic, but just going be but it's just going to be another announcement, isn't it? >> announcements >> how many announcements have we about we had from rishi sunak? about immigration? how many announcements have we had about anything? and he doesn't appear to actually any of the to actually hit any of the targets way . you know, we to actually hit any of the targetalking way . you know, we to actually hit any of the targetalking outside ’ou know, we to actually hit any of the targetalking outside 1.3 know, we to actually hit any of the targetalking outside 1.3 million/e were talking outside 1.3 million people in the last two years as net migration , which is the size net migration, which is the size of birmingham, where i'm from , of birmingham, where i'm from, it's just not sustainable. and then when people wonder why they can't get a hospital appointment, they can't get a gp appointment. you know, and everything is overcrowded . well, everything is overcrowded. well, if you're adding a if you're

adding the population of the size of the city of birmingham every two years, it's no wonder that that's what's going to happen. so i think it's panic just on that . just on that. >> is that what you put the rise of reform down to anger about immigration levels? do you think? that's one of the. i think? that's one of the. i think it's one of the reasons why people are shifting to reform. >> i think it's one of the things, but it's not the only thing. got a lot other thing. we've got a lot of other policies as that we're that policies as well that we're that we're putting forward, which probably would have probably in the past would have been as traditional been seen as traditional conservative policies. >> but we've seen over the >> but what we've seen over the last years the last few years from the conservative is a move to the left . you know, most the left. you know, most of the policies are no longer actually old conservative policies. >> and so i don't think it's primarily on migration. i do think that's a big element because when i'm out and about, it's something that people are talking to about quite, quite talking to me about quite, quite a they're also talking a lot. but they're also talking about the cost of living . about the cost of living. they're also talking about lots of things where the of other things where the conservatives, frankly , have conservatives, frankly, have

failed . and i will say labour failed. and i will say labour won't really do any better ehhen >> i'm interested to know your view as the leader of the climate party. what of your view is on immigration, on do you think the government is right to try and lower visas for workers ? try and lower visas for workers? >> i think just let's put it in context of today. i think we've got migration right in relation to that's all going to pandas. so that's all going very well at the moment. i think on the on the other, they should go back to china. i think that it was arranged properly. we checked visas. had checked out their visas. we had the numbers the the right numbers and now the whole being seen through whole deal is being seen through right way end. and it right the way to the end. and it looks it was well looks like it was well organised, which is very, very different i different to this. i mean, i think now like we've got think now we look like we've got a minister more a prime minister who's more like an head in the an ostrich with his head in the sand who actually can't see what the do is. look, the right thing to do is. look, i'm sort of expert on i'm no big sort of expert on migration and it's very much a plank what reform been plank of what reform has been talking thing talking about. but one thing which from the climate which will come from the climate party we get party is clearly if we don't get a grip on all of these things related to climate change, migration worse. migration is going to get worse. so moment, the

so and at the moment, the pressure seeing on at so and at the moment, the presmoment, seeing on at so and at the moment, the presmoment, if seeing on at so and at the moment, the presmoment, if we seeing on at so and at the moment, the presmoment, if we can'tlg on at so and at the moment, the presmoment, if we can't organise the moment, if we can't organise it moment when the it at the moment when the pressure it's going it at the moment when the prea;ure it's going it at the moment when the prea lot it's going it at the moment when the prea lot worse it's going it at the moment when the prea lot worse in:'s going it at the moment when the prea lot worse in times1g it at the moment when the prea lot worse in times to come. be a lot worse in times to come. well, i guess one point is that the more people we have in this country, energy we country, the more energy we need. more energy we need. need. yes, more energy we need. there advantages in there may be some advantages in having the having people in terms of the more skills that we've got, particularly them in particularly if we bring them in and i know this is being said by other parties well, but if we other parties as well, but if we bnng other parties as well, but if we bring that need bring in the people that we need to renewables build to build the renewables to build the got to do to build the renewables to build th i think from my point of view , and i have to say, the climate party is standing on any party is not standing on any issues immigration issues related to immigration or anything else like that. but i think get in the right people think to get in the right people that help the that we need to help us with the task clearly the right

task ahead is clearly the right thing should be doing. thing we should be doing. >> talk about the >> well, let's talk about the task because , of course, task ahead because, of course, the conference the climate conference is currently going on in dubai and there were some pretty controversial , uh, comments controversial, uh, comments publicised yesterday from the president of cop 28 who was saying that , uh, oil, gas and saying that, uh, oil, gas and other hydrocarbons are necessary in terms of this transition and, and indeed, it would be wrong to just stop using them immediately. >> he actually warned that phasing out oil, gas and coal would take the world back to cavemen. i mean, exactly . cavemen. i mean, exactly. >> i mean, i think the thing with that is i think this just goes to show what a complete farce this whole cop, 28, has actually been . um, you know, actually been. um, you know, it's a little bit like holding it's a little bit like holding it there and having him as the, as the main person that's talking about that's talking about it . you know, it's like about it. you know, it's like having burned at. matthews, you know, running a vegetarian

conference, isn't it really? because their whole wealth is founded on, you know, fossil fuel and oil . and so why are we fuel and oil. and so why are we surprised ? but we've we've seen surprised? but we've we've seen the whole thing and the hypocrisy, the hypocrisy of the king and rishi sunak and david cameron all flying in on private jets. and then they're all going to preach to us about that. we you we better not fly you know, we better not fly around ourselves or we ought to all electric cars, etc. era. >> well, that's the view of many an eco activist. yeah the likes of greta thunberg who protests outside cop because she thinks it's just a talking shop, a virtue signalling and the like. i mean you've been to cop though, and is it though, haven't you? and is it just talking shop ? just a talking shop? >> well, i led a delegation at cop 26. i worked very, very hard there weeks and realised there for two weeks and realised that never going that it's absolutely never going to the results we to come up with the results we want. looking want. right. so if we're looking for agreement, for international agreement, that's or that's going to save us or alternatively, international agreement that's going to see commercialisation of what's happening right commercialisation of what's happitring right commercialisation of what's happit isn't right commercialisation of what's happit isn't going right commercialisation of what's happit isn't going to right commercialisation of what's happit isn't going to happenright commercialisation of what's happit isn't going to happen at�*rt way, it isn't going to happen at cop.the way, it isn't going to happen at cop. the first thing is we've got 70,000 people going there to

dnnk drink their wine and have their canapes thing. canapes and that sort of thing. and ridiculous and we absolutely ridiculous what concentrar great on what we need concentrar great on that 1000 or so. maybe there's 500 decision makers with a few supporters , get them the room supporters, get them in the room and agenda and what and a clear agenda and what they've got to agree not they've got to agree or not agree get work agree on and let's get the work done. , best done. i mean paris accord, best thing had in 27 occasions. thing we've had in 27 occasions. and that is pretty weak. we and even that is pretty weak. we need to a paris accord at need to have a paris accord at every event we're every single event and we're not getting occasion . getting it on this occasion. we're even less likely to get it as mark said, how ridiculous to have the ceo of the national oil and gas company in the uae actually being the president of cop 28. and the fact that he comes out and says that, you know, science doesn't show know, the science doesn't show that to phase that there needs to be a phase out and gas in order for out of oil and gas in order for us net is absolute us to reach net zero is absolute ludicrous. he's rowing ludicrous. and he's been rowing back of course, ever back on that. of course, ever since he said it. >> mean, would say that >> i mean, he would say that he's a scientist by background and that before took and that before he took on this role, that has used role, he's someone that has used science his background science in his background as an engineer background engineer and his background through would through training. and he would say probably that he would absolutely believe that climate change threat . it but you change is a threat. it but you

can't down in progress and can't shut down in progress and hydrocarbons immediately to combat it . you need to find ways combat it. you need to find ways to get to net zero, not absolute zero, but carbon offsetting and all the rest of it. and that clearly includes oil and gas. >> well, i think that if we're talking about tomorrow, we're not tonight . so not shutting it down tonight. so there's to be oil there's not going to be any oil and gas tomorrow. and at some point, it to be point, though, it has to be phased so the idea that phased out. so the idea that the science actually to science is actually going to allow doing is allow you to keep doing it is ridiculous, unless, al—jubeir ridiculous, unless, as al—jubeir has to, is that has tried to allude to, is that carbon and storage carbon capture and storage hugely expand it. but at the moment we're not going to get that the oil and gas that unless the oil and gas companies are companies particularly are forced of it. forced to do vast amounts of it. when at the moment when they're not at the moment or if we have a national mission that us doing it in that gets us doing it in a national way and invest national way and we invest hugely because at hugely more into it because at the there to the moment it's not there to provide need in order provide what we need in order to allow our gas to go on. allow our oil and gas to go on. >> you're shaking your head. >> well, i'll just say that the whole net zero push complete , whole net zero push is complete, unaffordable for the less well off in our society. you know, it would see the largest transfer

of wealth from the from the poor to the rich in history. >> oh, for goodness sake. >> oh, for goodness sake. >> well, when you look at the cost everything, you know cost of everything, you know that that's proposed £15,000 for heat pumps , over £30,000 for heat pumps, over £30,000 for electric cars . these are the electric cars. these are the types of things that people are going to be expected to do by 2030. accepted that sunak was rowed back a little bit on that. however he's now being challenged on that in the courts that he shouldn't that maybe he shouldn't have actually done that. but even so , these are that. but even so, these are just and this is just unaffordable. and this is typical of the net zero and the green agenda every single time it attack , it's the less well it attack, it's the less well off ulez as well. >> oh, come on. this is utter rubbish. i mean, i don't get why all of you dinosaurs as in reform and that just don't get the picture. for goodness sake. we've 149 countries in the we've got 149 countries in the world set net zero world having set net zero targets, 82% of the world's gdp is going there at some speed or other. it is obvious to everybody, ordinary man

everybody, to the ordinary man on the street, that is where the money going be there money is going to be made. there is industrial is massive industrial opportunity and of this opportunity and all of this nitpicking , pulling us back, nitpicking, pulling us back, pulling us back, pulling back pulling us back, pulling us back prevents forward . prevents us that moving forward. china is controlling the net zero they're making vast zero agenda. they're making vast amounts money from it. they amounts of money from it. they at some point they control 100% of some of the components needed for they're making for batteries. they're making 88% the batteries at the 88% of the batteries at the moment for the world. >> comes down the >> when it comes down to the individual domestic policies that ordinary people are faced with, it is all about banning , with, it is all about banning, is it not? it's all this and how is it not? it's all this and how is that going to motivate people to be behind what you would like them to be behind the net zero agenda. >> it's this short termism. it's this of government this nitpicking of government and those are trying to and those who are trying to press them in different directions, around directions, nitpicking around areas. we need national areas. we need a national mission . we need to bring for mission. we need to bring for those targets . so it's actually those targets. so it's actually going make us so we going to make us money. so we can unleash the we've got can unleash the city. we've got one most powerful one of the most powerful financial the world financial centres in the world begging to in the begging for us to put in the right legislation they can right legislation that they can believe. this rowing believe. and none of this rowing back afterwards, but

back on things afterwards, but they going they can believe it's going to happen. get it in there and happen. then get it in there and they'll put the money into it. they money they'll put the money into it. theyour. money into our. >> it's interesting that >> it's very interesting that you as a as a point you raised china as a as a point here making here because they are making lots of money off this. they control many of the supply chains mark's chains as some people on mark's side of the argument would say, that reason not go that that's a reason to not go for battery powered cars because china controls so much of it. what your answer that what would your answer to that point mark and those point be is that mark and those like have very altruistic. like me have very altruistic. >> should doing >> they think we should be doing it we shouldn't it or they they say we shouldn't be it because china's be doing it because china's polluting and actually polluting and we'd actually be trying world and trying to save the world and making ourselves poorer. rubbish. poppycock it's so obvious this is the obvious that this is the industrial opportunity to make money for people in britain. why don't we have enough money for the police ? why the nhs, for our police? why do we have these problems in we have all these problems in moving and moving the money around and we're can we're nitpicking where we can save money because we aren't making exporting making enough money exporting enough and don't have the industrial product. >> build the supply >> we should build the supply chains this stuff in the uk. chains for this stuff in the uk. absolutely >> absolutely. got >> absolutely. and we've got companies moment, oxford, companies at the moment, oxford, pv, i've read about pv, just one i've read about recently making the new form of solar know what's solar panels. you know what's going or going to happen, the chinese or the going to buy the americans are going to buy

them they any bigger the americans are going to buy therwe'll they any bigger the americans are going to buy therwe'll ththem any bigger the americans are going to buy therwe'll ththem any bwear and we'll lose them again. we should be making it here. >> there is the >> well, of course, there is the argument countries argument that many countries around the world continuing around the world are continuing to their carbon to increase their carbon emissions. as emissions. at the same time as we reducing our but we are reducing our own. but let's quick word from you let's get a quick word from you to licence to finish about this bbc licence fee. we're expecting it to go up by £15 mark, but it sounds like rishi sunak may well block that increase. is the bbc licence fee here to stay? >> well , it here to stay? >> well, it shouldn't be here to stay . the bbc licence fee should stay. the bbc licence fee should be scrapped. we it should be on a subscription basis so that people can choose, you know, it's 2023, you know, the licence fee was brought in many, many years ago when it was a completely different television world. i think the interesting thing that i will mention though, is your headline price sunak versus the bbc. i don't think it should be forgotten that during lockdown when old people actually depended on their televisions , the licence their televisions, the licence fee was extended to over 65,

which i thought was shameful at that time that they did that. and i just find that , you know, and i just find that, you know, we can talk about how bad the bbc is because, i mean, let's be honest, it's appalling. now it's biased woke. and so therefore and that's not just the reason why i would want to get rid of the licence fee. it's just not fair. if i want to fair. you know, if i want to choose to watch the bbc, i'll subscribe. and if it's so good, everybody will in the same way, if i want to subscribe to your new digital platform, i'll do it. you know, if you shapps members. >> sorry , just say gb news .com/ >> sorry, just say gb news .com/ members . yes. members. yes. >> yeah. but yeah, yeah, sure . >> yeah. but yeah, yeah, sure. but you know, it's that principle. but at the moment you're forced into paying it on threat of well, basically going to court if you don't . so to court if you don't. so talking about whether it should be increased or not, you know my policy and our policy would be subscription based people can choose and i'm quite sure that as it's so good, everybody will

subscribe. it isn't that a fair point that if you want to choose to watch the bbc, you find pay for it. >> but if you want to choose to watch another channel on live television, pay television, you have to pay this sort anachronist i sort of anachronist fee. i suspect i've got a slightly funny view on it. >> starting off with the >> i'm starting off with the fact! >> i'm starting off with the fact i haven't paid the bbc licence fee for ten years, so i haven't and got haven't subscribed and i've got all news everything all of my news and everything else sources . so but else from other sources. so but actually same time i actually at the same time i think why ? i actually, to think sorry, why? i actually, to be honest , it's a think sorry, why? i actually, to be honest, it's a very think sorry, why? i actually, to be honest , it's a very personal be honest, it's a very personal reason to begin with is i didn't want to have as much television in my kids in the house, so my kids didn't watch television. watch as much television. i suspect failed because they're watch as much television. i suspgame ailed because they're watch as much television. i suspgame loads)ecause they're watch as much television. i suspgame loads)eca|all they're watch as much television. i suspgame loads)eca|all that�*re still game loads and all that sort stuff. but anyway, sort of stuff. but but anyway, sort of stuff. but but anyway, so achieved small so maybe i only achieved a small aim, that's first aim, but so that's the first part. didn't agree part. i mean, i didn't agree with the bbc is with mark. i think the bbc is great many ways, as i agree great in many ways, as i agree many of the are, we many of the media are, and we need of need a big selection of media and hate to see damage and i'd hate to see any damage come them. i think the thing come to them. i think the thing that about what that i didn't like about what sunak and sunak appears to be saying and i agree etcetera, is agree its reported etcetera, is why look, bbc, why isn't he saying, look, bbc, we understand you get we understand you need to get more money in order run. so more money in order to run. so we're come and sit down

more money in order to run. so we'reyou come and sit down more money in order to run. so we'reyou aboutcome and sit down more money in order to run. so we'reyou about how! and sit down more money in order to run. so we'reyou about how youi sit down more money in order to run. so we'reyou about how you can down more money in order to run. so we'reyou about how you can be vn with you about how you can be making money. and let's with you about how you can be makiat money. and let's with you about how you can be makiat innoney. and let's with you about how you can be makiat in arney. and let's with you about how you can be makiat in a moreknd let's with you about how you can be makiat in a more holistic; look at this in a more holistic approach find approach and see if we can find commercial opportunities approach and see if we can find corwithin al opportunities approach and see if we can find corwithin al owaytunities approach and see if we can find corwithin al oway the ties approach and see if we can find corwithin al oway the bbc runs fit within the way the bbc runs and actually the money and actually make the money that way. before we think about putting way. before we thinkfee, ut way. before we thinkfee, it is interesting. >> it's such a powerful brand around world. amazing around the world. it's amazing that company like netflix in that a company like netflix in the decade can make the last decade can make billions its international billions in its international markets . and bbc isn't markets. and the bbc isn't offering a subscription service to people not just in this country, but overseas, too. >> just, you know, >> they could just, you know, indulge a paid for indulge in a bit of paid for advertising . there are many advertising. there are many other options that they could have, very have, too. but thank you very much our wonderful much for being our wonderful panel much for being our wonderful panel. gemmell leader panel. ed gemmell there. leader of party and reform of the climate party and reform uk candidate mark howorth. thank you for contributions. now you for your contributions. now we're going to be talking about that big migration announcement when we come back. i believe our political editor is going to be there with the very latest outside . it looks outside downing street. it looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boiler dollars. sponsors of weather are on . gb news. hi

there. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast following a very wintry weekend for some of us, it's a milder day today. cloudy for many outbreaks of rain, although it is staying cold in the far north, central and northern scotland. >> and then later for the rest of scotland, northern ireland sitting in the cold air. but across england and wales, southern scotland, we've got a lot of cloud cover outbreaks of rain. that rain, heavy and persistent in places, caused persistent in places, has caused some with some flooded some issues with some flooded roads and so on. and it's slow to move away through the rest of the day. >> so it is going to stay grey and northern and damp. now for northern ireland, and northern ireland, central and northern scotland, with scotland, it's a brighter with some wintry showers, mostly rain and sleet at lower levels. snow over and sleet at lower levels. snow oveand showers continue >> and as those showers continue into the evening and as temperatures fall away, there's going to be some icy patches, especially for northern scotland and elsewhere. >> we've the rain continuing >> we've got the rain continuing across scotland and across southeast scotland and northeast england. >> and for a while, central

parts of the uk , although here, parts of the uk, although here, will ease by the end of the night. >> now, temperatures will stay up in the mid single figures where we've got the cloud and the it's going the rain, but it's going to be another night central another cold night for central and parts and northern scotland, parts of northern seeing northern ireland as well, seeing temperatures freezing temperatures well below freezing and those icy patches first thing tuesday. but a bright start for much of scotland and northern ireland. just a few more wintry flurries into the far north. >> we've got the >> and we've got the cloud and rain parts of rain across eastern parts of england, southeast scotland moving the day . moving away through the day. >> developing >> so brighter skies developing and the wind easing as well . and the wind easing as well. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good afternoon, britain. it is 1:00 on monday, the 4th of december. >> the big migration gamble. rumours are swirling around westminster that the prime minister will today announce drastic action to slash migration , an indeed the home migration, an indeed the home secretary will be making a statement in the next few hours. we'll bring you the latest live from westminster as we get it. >> cut your cloth . the prime >> cut your cloth. the prime minister is also expected to block a 9% increase in the bbc licence fee. that's after he warned the corporation that it needs to be realistic about what the public can afford. could it be game over for the telly tax ? be game over for the telly tax? >> climate conference disarray. chaos in dubai . as the president

chaos in dubai. as the president of cop 28 says, there's no science behind just stopping oil , warning that phasing out coal , , warning that phasing out coal, oil or gas would take the world back into caves . back into caves. >> and i believe we've got a live shot of the plane that is about to take off. there it is the plane that is about to take off with not one, but two beautiful pandas as who've been staying in edinburgh zoo for the past 12 years. >> absolutely pandemonium at edinburgh airport as this plane was meant to take off an hour ago . it's been delayed now for ago. it's been delayed now for one hour, one minute and 24 seconds. so what on earth could be holding up this panda deportation? well, i just heard in my ear, tom, that perhaps that door may well be just about to close. >> oh, so there we go . >> oh, so there we go. >> oh, so there we go. >> this is exciting television, isn't it? will the door close?

will the plane take off? we could sit on this shot for hours. >> these are the uk's only giant pandas, and they're leaving back to china , where they'll have to to china, where they'll have to be quarantined for a short penod be quarantined for a short period of time before they're then put in a chinese zoo . then put in a chinese zoo. >> i find it very ironic that it's china that's quarantine ing the from britain the pandas coming from britain when we should have been when really we should have been quarantining coming quarantining people coming from china, a couple of years china, perhaps a couple of years ago. but but we've some ago. but but we've had some people write in about the pandas. pedro who has said that he's worried that lefty lawyers will a last minute will get a last minute injunction to stop this deportation of pandas. maybe that's why the plane has not yet left . it's the echr. left. it's the echr. >> it's against their human rights. you must keep them in edinburgh. >> panda rights. do you know what? >> i'm disappointed. i do like pandas. >> i'm disappointed. i do like pandas . they're >> i'm disappointed. i do like pandas. they're a top animal. >> yeah, it's one of my favourites. >> and it's a shame they didn't have any baby pandas, but there >> and it's a shame they didn't hav> and it's a shame they didn't hav> and it's a shame they didn't hav> and it's a shame they didn't hav

announcement your announcement after your headhnes announcement after your headlines . headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you. the latest from the newsroom . the home from the newsroom. the home secretary is due to unveil new measures to bring down legal migration after figures hit a record high last year. migration after figures hit a record high last year . james record high last year. james cleverly is expected to tell the commons that the minimum salary requirement for migrants coming to britain will increase to around £38,000. that's up from just over £26,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what's necessary to bring down net migration , even after down net migration, even after official figures hit highs of 745,000 in 2020. downing street says new measures will involve clamping down on those who seek to abuse legal routes into the country . meanwhile downing country. meanwhile downing street has rejected claims that the government will give rwanda another £15 million to sign a new immigration treaty . it's new immigration treaty. it's understood the home secretary is close to finalising the plan

after the supreme court ruled against it in november for the agreement could see british lawyers sent to rwanda to advise judges on asylum cases . the judges on asylum cases. the prime minister says the bbc should be realistic about licence fee increases. it's currently £159 per year, but it's thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9. next year to just over £173. the culture secretary, lucy frazer says she wants it to rise by what she described as an appropriate amount. but a 9% hike would be very high. there are reports rishi sunak could block the increase, though it's understood no decisions have been made . no decisions have been made. more than 30 flood warnings have been issued as the risk of snow subsides . heavy rains expected subsides. heavy rains expected across large parts of the uk follows a night of subzero temperatures and heavy snowfall in the north, nearly 40 schools are closed in cumbria due to the conditions. the yellow alerts for rain are in place across southern england , south—east southern england, south—east wales and into the midlands until 6:00. a yellow rain

warning also in place for north east england until 9:00 tomorrow morning . the president of the morning. the president of the cop 28 climate summit in dubai says he's surprised by reports suggesting that he denies a key aspect of climate science. sultan al was criticised in november after he said there was no scientific basis for limiting a rise in global temperatures to 1.5. well speaking at the summit today, he said his comments were taken out of context in an attempt to undermine the aim of the conference. s he reiterated his full belief in climate science , and i have repeatedly science, and i have repeatedly said it in many occasions and in many different platforms , that many different platforms, that it is the science s that have guided the principles of our strategy as cop 28 presidency. >> and i have been very crystal clear about that. and i hope that this time i am clearer and getting this message across . the

getting this message across. the ministry of defence's plan for new weapons has a budget black hole of £169 new weapons has a budget black hole of £16.9 billion. >> the national audit office said. the mod's ten year programme, until 2033 was unaffordable and the projected deficit is the biggest since 2012. it puts the estimated cost at more than £300 billion against a budget of just over 288 billion . almost £4 billion 288 billion. almost £4 billion is being put into a rail project for the north of england. ministers are promising to invest £3.9 billion to upgrade the trans—pennine route connecting manchester, huddersfield , leeds and york. huddersfield, leeds and york. it's after the prime minister scrapped the northern leg of the hs2 route between manchester and birmingham this year. a number of tory mps are calling for a new body to help infected blood victims, with some backbenchers set to join forces with labour on payouts over the scandal. thousands of people contracted hiv and hepatitis ms after being given contaminated blood

products in the 1970s and 80s reports suggest that ministers are unlikely to shift their positions while the inquiry is ongoing . however, shadow ongoing. however, shadow chancellor rachel reeves confirmed labour will support an amendment with a body created to pay amendment with a body created to pay out compensation . and as pay out compensation. and as we've been hearing, the uk's only giant pandas have boarded their plane to china after spending 12 years in scotland . spending 12 years in scotland. edinburgh zoo's star attractions wang, yang, wang and tian tian, also known as sunshine and sweetie pie, came to edinburgh zoo in 2011. it was hoped they'd breed while at the zoo , but they breed while at the zoo, but they didn't produce a cub at boeing 777 cargo plane is carrying them on their journey home. this is on theirjourney home. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily

and. emily >> good afternoon . well, let's >> good afternoon. well, let's check back in with edinburgh airport where this plane has still not taken off. i have to say, dave has written in to say, are we sure they're going to china and not rwanda? it seems like we're brilliant at allowing planes to get to the top tarmac , planes to get to the top tarmac, only to not take off with their deportation. >> it does give me a flashback to when it was that first plane that was due to go off to rwanda and we had that live feed on the plane for what seemed like hours waiting for the plane to take off. and of course, if you remember , it never did. it remember, it never did. it stayed firmly on that tarmac. but yes, lots of lots of jokes coming into our inbox. thank you.keep coming into our inbox. thank you. keep them coming in. they do make us laugh. absolutely. >> well, as pedro originally said , what if it's these leftie said, what if it's these leftie lawyers that have taken out an injunction against the pandas? could that be why the plane in over an hour now sitting on that tarmac, not yet taken off? well,

we'll be keeping a close eye on on the situation. >> i heard i heard the pandas love it in edinburgh. >> could imagine so. i bet the >> i could imagine so. i bet the living conditions in edinburgh a lot better than there's no social credit system in edinburgh . there's free access edinburgh. there's free access to the internet. there's no great firewall around the internet in edinburgh yet . internet in edinburgh yet. >> but perhaps it's a little a little chillier than they're accustomed oh, maybe . but accustomed to. oh, maybe. but we'll be keeping our eye that we'll be keeping our eye on that tarmac look that tarmac does look though that that that all important door has been closed . so there you go. been closed. so there you go. there's our breaking news. >> but other updates, of course, are political editor are are political editor christopher has just christopher hope has just scurried back to our westminster studio after being in a rather important downing street briefing. christopher can you tell us what you've learned in terms of what will be being announced on migration policy today. >> yeah, tom, i mean, it's a very, very big week for migration policy. two things are happening this week . today we'll happening this week. today we'll hear measures to bring down that level of net migration . 745,000

level of net migration. 745,000 people arrived here. more arrived here than left here in 2022. the government also, of course, came into power in 2019 when the figure was 219,000 and said that figure that figure would come down. instead, it's more than tripled since then . more than tripled since then. the government is alarmed tory mps are cross, particularly in what are called red wall seats. so today, around half past five or so, the home secretary , or so, the home secretary, secretary james cleverly, will announce new measures to control net migration control numbers of migrants who can come here as people thought was going to happen after 2016 happen after the 2016 eu referendum . chief among those referendum. chief among those changes will be to increase the salary you must command to get here to around £38,000 a year, up from around £26,000 a year. that should really restore what existed before the eu referendum in 2016. when you had to be a graduate to come here and stay here. so it's really a return to graduate salaries to come and settle here. there'll also be some measures to try and stop

people and bring people arriving here and bring over family members. now, that was the in students that was the case in students that was the case in students that was meant to end or beginning to end in september, where they'll look different areas of look at other different areas of the health the economy, maybe health sectors and elsewhere to try and stop that happening. these measures have not yet been checked by for office budget checked by the for office budget responsibility. know the responsibility. we do know the treasury on a certain treasury relies on a certain figure of net migration around 250,000 a year to ensure we have growth that has not been checked by the obe. it may have a beanng by the obe. it may have a bearing on forecast figures next yeah bearing on forecast figures next year. earlier today i was with jeremy hunt and he said their big challenge in the government is to try and fill these 1 million vacancies with as many as 6 million adults of working age who aren't working. so there's a big challenge to get more brits back into work and control the net number coming in. that's the first part of this week. tom emily. this week. tom and emily. the second the rwanda second part is the rwanda treaty. you all know about that, don't this this a deal don't you? this is this a deal with try and break the with rwanda to try and break the business that stops business model that stops migrants across the migrants coming across the channel into southern england ?

channel into southern england? theideais channel into southern england? the idea is to take them, move them into rwanda and process their their their work. there the supreme court has said that's out. that's out of order. it might damage their human rights. they could be returned to a country where they're at risk. government risk. the government will announce week. the announce measures this week. the new treaty, to ensure that they are not put at risk in rwanda new treaty, to ensure that they are be put at risk in rwanda new treaty, to ensure that they are be seenrt risk in rwanda new treaty, to ensure that they are be seen asisk in rwanda new treaty, to ensure that they are be seen as a( in rwanda new treaty, to ensure that they are be seen as a safetwanda can be seen as a safe destination them, and that destination for them, and that could be announced soon as could be announced as soon as thursday . so could be announced as soon as thursday. so big i think thursday. so a big week, i think i would almost say a seismic week for the prime minister. he's got to this right. they he's got to get this right. they confirmed they want confirmed today they want to stop . we that. stop the boats. we know that. stop crossings, but also stop the boats. we know that. stop net)ssings, but also stop the boats. we know that. stop net migrationrt also stop the boats. we know that. stop net migration . also stop the boats. we know that. stop net migration . lots of control net migration. lots of tory mps are telling me that letters of no confidence are going in about the pm about this letters of no confidence are going irit'sout the pm about this letters of no confidence are going irit's very�*re pm about this letters of no confidence are going irit's very concerningrt this letters of no confidence are going irit's very concerning , this letters of no confidence are going irit's very concerning, his matter. it's very concerning, i think. and finally, the pm is getting grip. >> yeah. christopher, it's hard to overstate how important it is for to build back for rishi sunak to build back some on this issue after some trust on this issue after those net migration those record net migration figures two years a row . those record net migration figures two years a row. i figures two years in a row. i mean, looking at polling as well, that's in the papers today . rishi sunak less popular than

liz truss among key voters is sunak losing votes to reform, which is of course a party that is very strong when it comes to immigration. it doesn't look good.is immigration. it doesn't look good. is this new package of measures a reflection of that ? measures a reflection of that? >> well, i asked the pm's spokesman for gb news viewers at the briefing at lunchtime to say to say why now? why have you suddenly got got the grip on this issue now, given the figure is 1.2 million net arrivals in the two years to june 2023, and they just said, well, they they have now noticed a degree of abuse by some people, maybe, maybe family members come over with other migrants or lawyers taking advantage of it. so they feel they want to get a grip with it so that that's the thinking behind it. there are other things, from the other things, too, from the lobby now . there's lobby meeting just now. there's a the government said it would look at whether wants to look at whether it wants to support law to reverse support a new law to reverse sadiq khan's expansion of the ulez scheme in greater london.

there's a backbench bill published by gareth johnson, a tory mp for dartford, on wednesday . when that's wednesday. when that's published, the government will see if they want to back it. i also ask a question for tom. tom. i asked him whether whether they whether the government supports the sphere idea in east london, this new this new concert venue . tom yes, of concert venue. tom yes, of course. it was called in by michael gove, who's the levelling up the community secretary because there's now going to be a public inquiry. the government can't comment, but i'm keeping up the pressure for you, tom, on behalf of you. >> suspense. >> suspense. >> the suspense is killing me. of course. sadiq khan kiboshed it and all thought it was it and we all thought it was oven it and we all thought it was over. michael gove has brought it . will this over. michael gove has brought it .will this will this £2 it back. will this will this £2 billion potentially in foreign direct investment come about? well, a shame the well, it's a shame that the government is not wanting to comment . but christopher, government is not wanting to comment. but christopher, i government is not wanting to comment . but christopher, i have comment. but christopher, i have to we had michael fabricant, to say we had michael fabricant, the tory mp, on the programme, a little bit earlier. he he little bit earlier. he said he was expecting that all conservative mps will have to stay in westminster on thursday

when normally they'd go home on thursday afternoon. we're expecting potentially a pretty significant vote then yes , not a significant vote then yes, not a vote so much as it an emergency legislation to push through these changes to human rights laws. >> now, what might what might happen and michael won't know. no one knows yet. and outside of the small group of people around the small group of people around the pm and the secretary, the pm and the home secretary, james cleverly, they might james cleverly, what they might look disapply by human look to do is disapply by human rights, the human rights of people here, who people who arrive here, who arrive legally across the arrive here legally across the channel to allow them to be taken back to rwanda for processing. whether whether processing. so whether whether their human rights can be can be disapplied in this emergency legislation to make this rwanda plan work. it should get plan work. now, it should get through the house of commons because conservative working because the conservative working majority of around it majority of around 50, but it might well fall foul of the house of lords. so what the government to do is government wants to do is announce now well before announce it now well before christmas , and there must be 2 christmas, and there must be 2

or 3 weekends before it can be looked at the house of lords. looked at by the house of lords. the house of lords a problem. the house of lords is a problem. there's majority there's no government majority there actually part there and it's not actually part . you tom, in the . as you know, tom, in the salisbury convention mean it salisbury convention may mean it can't to overturn. so can't be used to overturn. so it's going to be quite a battle with peers in the spring, which could even lead to an early general election. let's not go too far that but too far down that front, but certainly this week we're going to see lord laws which could try and disapply the human rights of those arriving here legally that will very contentious. will be very, very contentious. another battle with the of lords. >> just what we need. >> just what we need. >> i spoke to a conservative mp recently it's a good recently who said it's a good job david cameron in job they have david cameron in the lords now to do this battling for them. perhaps that'll point that'll be an interesting point of very of contention. that's a very good christopher hope, good point. christopher hope, thank for bringing thank you so much for bringing us there with us the very latest there with those new fresh straight those new fresh lines straight out street. brilliant out of downing street. brilliant >> the next culture >> well, on to the next culture secretary lucy fraser says that a £15 rise the bbc licence a £15 rise in the bbc licence fee would be high and the government is concerned about people struggling with the cost of living. that's amid reports rishi set to block a 9%

rishi sunak is set to block a 9% hike in the annual licence fee bill. yes the rise would push the charge up to £173. >> it of course currently stands at £159, a big increase there. >> so former bbc royal correspondent jennie bond joins us now. jennie, thank you very much for joining us now. jennie, thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon . do you think it's afternoon. do you think it's right that rishi sunak could block this rise or does the bbc need this extra cash ? need this extra cash? >> well, i think the bbc does need the extra cash . you have to need the extra cash. you have to remember that the licence fee has been frozen under a government agreement for the past two years and compared to other services, i must say that i think it is fantastic value for money. >> it's currently at £13 a month . i mean my sky subscription is something like £80 a month. netflix has just announced a 38% increase in the coming year. disney, a 14% increase. this will be 9. and other streaming

services or streaming services have increased their costs over the last couple of years, where the last couple of years, where the bbc has been frozen. >> but isn't the problem, jennie isn't the problem. sorry to interrupt, but isn't the problem that unfortunately for the bbc, fewer people are watching the service and fewer people are actually purchasing the licence fee every year, year on year. so taking more and more from those who are seems rather unfair. yeah i do think it is a bit of a conundrum actually, because there are people who do not watch or listen to the bbc, but honestly they are fairly few. >> i think you have to remember you've got four television channels, you've got six radio channels, you've got six radio channels , you've got bbc channels, you've got bbc iplayer, you've got local stations which are being decimated. actually but you get an awful lot for your buck and the statistics do show that even with the slight decline in the number of people who are buying

a licence, nine out of ten adults in this country use some part of the bbc every single week . it is part of the bbc every single week. it is one of those organised nations that can bring people together at moments of great joy or great crime . ipsis great joy or great crime. ipsis or just great joy or great crime. ipsis orjust having fun great joy or great crime. ipsis or just having fun watching something like strictly where everybody watches it at the same time and enjoys it. i think it's such an important having travelled the world over my long, long career and seen so many other television stations around the world. i mean, it really is gold standard. >> jenny, just finally , i >> jenny, just finally, i suppose if it is this brilliant institution that everyone would want to buy into , and i think i want to buy into, and i think i tend to agree with that, i think were it to be a non compulsory licence and a subscription service , i think many, many service, i think many, many people would buy into it. isn't there an argument, people would buy into it. isn't there an argument , therefore, there an argument, therefore, for taking out of the hands for taking this out of the hands of rishi saying it of rishi sunak for saying it shouldn't government that shouldn't be the government that sets level at which we pay sets the level at which we pay for service like the bbc to

for a service like the bbc to have it as a subscription service. like many of these other services that you mentioned , like netflix, like mentioned, like netflix, like amazon prime, like disney plus a subscription service that people can either subscribe to or not. it it might even raise more money that way. it would cost the viewers who wanted to watch or listen a heck of a lot more. >> you know, people who've got virtually no money have access, as i say, to all these outlets with with what is the equivalent of one cup of coffee, a week, it's not a lot of money for what you get. but i think maybe there should be some levelling out. there are people who actually cannot afford that. they can't afford cup of coffee a week . afford a cup of coffee a week. and so perhaps could be in and so perhaps it could be in the system somehow that the taxation system somehow that those who pay a higher rate of tax pay a higher licence fee and those don't pay any tax get those who don't pay any tax get it free. i think there is room for manoeuvre there. i'm certainly sympathetic to that idea and i think the bbc be too. >> yes, i think there's something certainly needs to

change it is true that change because it is true that fewer people are opting in to the licence fee and that is a long term challenge for the bbc. i'm going to end this i'm going to have to end this interview here. >> jennie bond, thank you so much. live to edinburgh >> jennie bond, thank you so much. where live to edinburgh >> jennie bond, thank you so much. where the 'e to edinburgh >> jennie bond, thank you so much. where the planedinburgh >> jennie bond, thank you so much. where the plane withrrgh >> jennie bond, thank you so much. where the plane with the airport where the plane with the pandas moving. is really? airport where the plane with the pan here moving. is really? airport where the plane with the pan here we oving. is really? airport where the plane with the pan here we gorg. is really? airport where the plane with the pan here we go .1. is really? airport where the plane with the pan here we go . we've really? airport where the plane with the pan here we go . we've gotly? airport where the plane with the pan here we go . we've got some oh, here we go. we've got some we've got some movement. there it out. it is. it it is. backing out. it is. it is currently remind currently moving now to remind viewers and listeners, this is the south, the china southern cargo plane that is taking these two pandas that have been in edinburgh zoo for the last 12 years. they're named yang guang and shan shan , and they're and shan shan, and they're returning to china now after that lending that that leasing system has come to an end. >> yes, in english, i believe they're called sunshine. and sweetie, which is rather nice. so we bid farewell to sunshine and sweetie. and as someone wrote me, they said, we shouldn't have been so joyful when these pandas are being kept. you know, they're going to have flight . yeah, have a very long flight. yeah, they're little boxes. crates they're in little boxes. crates >> so they're probably quite

large crates with a lot of bamboo. and did hear that they bamboo. and i did hear that they will sleep for the will probably sleep for the whole just it's almost whole flight. just it's almost as they're in first class. so as if they're in first class. so you an you don't believe this is an animal rights issue? >> no. >> no. >> as far as i read a lot about this, this morning, it does seem that the boxes that they are travelling in, they've actually had enclosure in had them in their enclosure in edinburgh zoo to get used to them for the last few weeks. they're quite large. they have a lot of sort of stuff that pandas love food and the like within them. i think that two pandas on that enormous plane, i think they're being treated quite well. >> well, there we go. i hope that we can procure some more pandas this country, perhaps pandas for this country, perhaps for edinburgh zoo, london zoo . for edinburgh zoo, london zoo. other available . yes. other zoos are available. yes. so there we go. >> i do have to say we >> i do have to say that we have had messages about these had some messages in about these pandas. morris has written to say, it seems clear that the government is now about to pander , to pander to public pander, to pander to public opinion with announcements on migration and the licence fee. okay. perhaps that wasn't just about the pandas, but a great

one. jeff has written in to say i've heard word from beijing that the chinese government are worried that the pandas may have contracted covid. worry contracted covid. they worry about a pandemic starting in china again . china again. >> very good. very, very good. yes, we are getting quite a lot of panda puns in. right? i believe we are going to take you away from this now because we've got lots of important things to talk about, including , of talk about, including, of course, package of course, the package of announcements regarding migration . an has rishi sunak migration. an has rishi sunak suddenly started listening to the public when it comes to immigration. are you supportive largely of his his moves to try and cut that net migration figure ? certainly high. here's figure? certainly high. here's the plane. we'll be with you very

sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back and some distressing news from paris. anti—terrorism prosecutors have opened an investigation after a man armed with a knife and a hammer killed a german tourist and left two, including a british man wounded . and near british man wounded. and near the eiffel tower in paris . this the eiffel tower in paris. this was on saturday night. >> yes , organisers and >> yes, organisers and politicians now face questions over security ahead of the 2024 olympics. of course, being held in paris. well our gb news reporter charlie peters joins us now. and charlie, what have we learned about this attack in the last 24 hours? well, firstly , last 24 hours? well, firstly, the french government saying this morning that they will not

change their plans. >> as for the route of the olympics, coming up next year, in the summer, july and august, saying that there are plans and indeed plans for security for that event. >> but most of the revelations we've had since this attack on saturday night have been regarding the status of the alleged assassinator, because in french law, if you conduct a premeditated attack on someone, an attempted murder , they called an attempted murder, they called it assassination . it assassination. >> and he is a 26 year old iranian national and french national born in france to iranian parents. but the most shocking revelation is that he was previously jailed for four years from 2016 due to pledging allegiance to the islamic state terror organisation , also terror organisation, also referred to as daesh. >> now he was under surveillance when this attack was carried out over the weekend and members of

his family have been questioned and it points to a broader trend in france and indeed across europe where alleged terrorists and those who have carried out attacks have been under surveillance or released from prison after relatively short sentences for links with terrorist organisations. now the french terror level was raised in october after the shocking murder of that school teacher in the northern town of arras. it's now reached a critical level, they said, and there are concerns in france and indeed across europe that more attacks, especially those linked to the ongoing conflict in the middle east, are likely yes , charlie, east, are likely yes, charlie, this isn't the first first reported is inspired attack that we've seen in france in recent months . yes, that's right. so months. yes, that's right. so there was a chechen islamist attack on a school teacher in october. on the 13th of that month. >> and also, let's not forget

the stabbing by a syrian national in annecy in the south of france in july , where a of france in july, where a british girl was injured as well. >> so in the last three major, major terrorist attacks in france, we have seen britons among those injured. and it points to many critics say in france, the government failing to get a grip of the security situation. and i think there has been a reaction now from president macron's government since the october attack on that school teacher in the north. and so they have for the first time rejected advice from the european convention of human rights by deporting a uzbek national who had links to a terrorist organisation. now the echr said that that could not be done because the uzbek man had potentially a risk of torture when being sent back to uzbekistan . but the french uzbekistan. but the french government has pushed through nonetheless, and the interior

ministry says that there has been a 30% rise in deportations runs since october versus the same period last year. runs since october versus the same period last year . this is same period last year. this is the method that they are going to take to keep france six to. and of course , many questions and of course, many questions being asked since this attack on saturday. why was a man who had been jailed for links to the islamic state terrorist organisation allowed to leave prison and return to relative freedom on the streets of paris ? freedom on the streets of paris? >> absolutely. huge questions for those decisions, but it does seem extraordinary that now emmanuel macron, a poster boy for european liberalism, is the person that is rejecting the calls of the echr and the echr . calls of the echr and the echr. for statement, there sounds very similar to what our own supreme court has been saying in the united kingdom with regard to deportation to rwanda, saying that that we shouldn't send people there because of the risk of being sent on to further countries and therefore the risk

to torture. seems a to torture. that seems like a very similar set of concerns that the french have simply ignored. does that leave lessons for the united kingdom? there are questions here about a potential way of copying what the french are doing because the interior ministry over the weekend when this was announced at this deportation back in november, they said that they would always prioritise the security . security. >> 80 of the french states and the french people over the claims of human rights of terrorists. so a very clear message there from the french government. and it's interior ministry in particular. and i think it reflects a broader trend we've seen across europe whereby there has been a hardening of migration stances, particularly when it comes to the deportation of terrorist or those perceived to be a security risk. this is not just isis stated to france and could we be in a situation now , as we in a situation now, as we learned last week on gb news that counter—terror and police fear as though an attack linked

to the gaza conflict is likely? could there be a situation where britain is out of step with the rest of europe if their deportations are kicking off and we are left behind ? we are left behind? >> very interesting indeed . gb >> very interesting indeed. gb news reporter charlie peters there with the latest from that horrific attack in paris. very interesting. i'm glad you raised that. the question of the echr air france clearly willing to ignore the european court of human rights when it comes to the deportation of terrorist suspects and also so horribly frustrate . and we see it time frustrate. and we see it time and time and again that terror suspects have been known to the authorities and it is such it is such a shame that france has to suffer two terror attacks in order to then think about this. >> the united kingdom not yet thinking about this , but to some thinking about this, but to some extent, is it a matter of time before we do see a terror attack on our own shores? well, much more on this after headlines with tatiana .

with tatiana. >> tom, thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. the home secretary's expected to announce a package of new measures to bring down legal migration in. it's understood james cleverly will raise the minimum salary requirement for those coming to the uk from just over 26,000 to around £38,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what's necessary to bring down net migration after official figures hit a record high of 745,000 last yeah record high of 745,000 last year. downing street says the new measures will focus on clamping down on abuse in the legal migration system . legal migration system. meanwhile the government is facing a challenge to deliver on its pledge to stop the boats after the supreme court ruled against the rwanda plan in november . against the rwanda plan in november. it's against the rwanda plan in november . it's understood the november. it's understood the home secretary will head to rwanda to finalise a new treaty with the african nation . this with the african nation. this week, however, downing street has rejected claims it will give rwanda another £15 million to

sign it. the agreement could see british lawyers sent to rwanda to advise judges on asylum cases . gb news understands the prime minister will block a planned increase to the tv licence fee. it's currently £159 per year, but is thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9% next year to just over £173. culture secretary lucy frazer says the proposed increase is very high but denied ripping up says she wanted it to rise by an appropriate amount. but the planned rise would be a very high level amid the cost of living pressures. there are reports rishi sunak could block the increase, though it's understood have understood no decisions have been made and more than 30 flood warnings have been issued as the risk of snow subsides . heavy risk of snow subsides. heavy rains expected across large parts of the uk follows a night of subzero temperatures and heavy snowfall in the north, nearly 40 schools are closed in cumbria due to the conditions the yellow alerts for rain are in place across southern england, south—east wales and into the midlands until 6:00

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pandasin those two pandas, the only giant pandas in the united kingdom, is taking off as we speak. >> there it is on the runway , a >> there it is on the runway, a very misty edinburgh , i must say. >> it's very misty. but you can make out the plane there reasonably clearly . reasonably clearly. >> i wonder if they'll miss all of the rain and mist if they've acclimatised over the last decade plus 12 years in edinburgh before returning. >> do you know exactly where they're going in china? do you know? >> that's a really good question because obviously the climate is very different depending on where you are in china , seeing where you are in china, seeing as it is a rather large country , as it is a rather large country, i know. they're i don't know. perhaps they're going leave this here going to have to leave this here because who because someone who calls themselves has themselves chief butler has written in to say, tom, you're pandenng written in to say, tom, you're pandering for puns , as has pandering for puns, as has become unbear able . become unbear able. >> very good. well, there it is on the move on the move at edinburgh airport, taking our. oh, hang on. >> are we to are we going >> are we going to are we going to we i think we're to see it fly? we i think we're going i we're going to going to i think we're going to see this plane and there's going to i think we're going to see tia; plane and there's going to i think we're going to see tia helpful and there's going to i think we're going to

see tia helpful suggestionre's going to i think we're going to see tia helpful suggestion ,e's going to i think we're going to see tia helpful suggestion , i; been a helpful suggestion, i think, coming in from john, who has suggested that this might be a solution to our illegal migration woes. emily he says if we dress up all the illegal immigrants in panda suits, we could send them all to china and simply say that we'd had success with the panda breeding program. >> that's quite a good one. but. al right. | >> that's quite a good one. but. al right. i don't know if you mentioned this one. i don't think you did, he says. it's quite bamboozled that we've had to send pandas back to to send our pandas back to china. it's too much for many of us to bear. could well be us to bear. that could well be panda monium. so there you go. keep them coming in. panda keep them coming in. the panda puns . puns do enjoy them. >> we love them. and it is very sad to the of these sad to see the end of these pandas , of course, flying back pandas, of course, flying back to china. no . to china. oh, no. >> easyjet's the way . oh, ho. 110. >> no. >> they saw we were broadcasting and wanted some free advertising. maybe . advertising. well, maybe. >> that exactly right. >> maybe that is exactly right. >> maybe that is exactly right. >> easyjet. you to buy >> mr easyjet. you need to buy the slots . the ad slots. >> problem problem with >> the problem the problem with this never quite this is that you never quite know the plane will take know when the plane will take off. been situation off. i've been in this situation where i've ended being on where i've ended up being on that for what feels

that platform for what feels like think you're like hours. and you think you're just about to go. >> they oh, no, >> and then they say, oh, no, you're back the queue . next you're back in the queue. next one's you're back in the queue. next onethese two pandas are >> these two pandas are beautiful creatures and it is a sad day . we heard from the sad day. we heard from the zookeepers at the edinburgh zoo and they seemed rather disappointed. >> they did . disappointed. >> they did. but of disappointed. >> they did . but of course, >> they did. but of course, there has been an element of success to their 12 years in the united kingdom , a huge amount of united kingdom, a huge amount of research and biology has been done. we've learnt more about how these pandas breed, or in the case of these two pandas, here we go. they didn't breed. but yes , they will now but yes, they will now be continuing their long, happy and healthy life in a zoo. so those listening on on radio, the plane is accelerating and it is off the tarmac. there we go. wheels up. >> and we've got a clear view there. so two pandas aboard that plane back to china after a 12 year stint at edinburgh zoo. a sad day for edinburgh, but a happy day for china. >> yes. and as we see that plane disappear into the mist, we'll

say these pandas themselves will be missed. >> they will be missed right . be missed. >> they will be missed right. i think we'll be back in just one moment as the plane flies off into the distance. >> majestic

isabel monday to thursdays from . isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> good afternoon, britain. a major package of measures on migration is set to be announced by the home secretary in the

next few hours to discuss it , next few hours to discuss it, we're joined by political commentator matthew stadlen and the columnist and former member of the european parliament, patrick o'flynn. now patrick, you were writing over the weekend about the influence of reform uk and how they're taking many , many votes away from the many, many votes away from the conservative party and the dynamics that might lead to after the next election , or do after the next election, or do you think that that sort of pressure is why we're expecting a seismic statement from the home secretary today and we're heanng home secretary today and we're hearing more and more about different ways to get rwanda off the ground? >> yes, i think on both legal and illegal immigration, the conservative leadership has belated woken up to the fact they are in massive trouble. they're miles off where huge chunks of their former supporters are. they've let people down for in the case of legal migration targets for 13 years in a row. and in case of stopping the boats for getting on for half a decade as well, i

think the trouble with announcements on both of these things, both on on legal migration and earnings thresholds and on rwanda and off to talk to lawyers in rwanda is it's all very reactive. and i think most voters now will think that conservatives can't really be trusted to deliver on either of these things. and that the dangeris of these things. and that the danger is they're now in such a downward spiral, it just comes across as desperate. >> now the conservatives will say, too, that a vote for reform is a vote for the labour party because reform can't realistically pick up seats in the way the conservatives could do you think that is a strong enough message? >> i think it would be strong enoughif >> i think it would be strong enough if the labour leader was jeremy corbyn and the conservatives still had something that the right of centre really wanted , such as to centre really wanted, such as to get brexit over the line . both get brexit over the line. both of those things pertained in 2019. and a third thing, they have a good salesman at the helm, which was boris johnson . helm, which was boris johnson. none of those things now pertain

, remember starmer in , and as you remember starmer in the commons at pmqs last week actually actually attacked rishi sunak the right on sunak from the right on immigration. and there so immigration. and there was so much that even an much space to do so that even an open borders fanatic like keir starmer could make hay and matthew, it's interesting both at last week's pmqs, but also writing articles over the weekend and speaking today. >> keir starmer is praising margaret thatcher. he's saying that migration is far too high and that the labour party, the labour party is the party to get it down is he jumping into this space well for the space as well for the conservative party is being beaten up by on the right on immigration is being beaten up on the left on immigration by keir starmer. >> you've got headlines now in the sunday telegraph about a new batch of tory mps are going to throw in the can are going to leave politics basically because they're anticipating such a big defeat. you've got the sunday telegraph running articles by a future labour prime minister everyone knows it is over for the tories, i think, and i've

made no bones about this, that the rwanda policy is a horrible policy. it is offshoring our own responsibilities. but even if you think it's a wonderful policy , it has failed time and policy, it has failed time and time again. and this conservative government is going to have been sending more home secretaries to rwanda than it has failed asylum seekers or indeed any form of asylum . indeed any form of asylum. >> hang on, matthew, they are having another go at it. yes. we're hearing, james cleverly this treaty, 15 million, this new treaty, 15 million, i think to sweeten the deal, to try and make it happen, potentially . uk lawyers off to potentially. uk lawyers off to rwanda , you know, they've still rwanda, you know, they've still got chance . got a chance. >> a colonial, >> sounds a bit colonial, doesn't sending our lawyers doesn't it? sending our lawyers out to make sure that out to rwanda to make sure that the system actually works. >> i don't know about that. >> i don't know about that. >> oh, hang on, hang on. isn't the problem that our own the problem here that our own supreme the supreme court have been the colonial saying, oh, these colonial ones saying, oh, these poor rwanda's, they they they couldn't possibly work these cases themselves. cases out themselves. ultimately, not the ultimately, that's not the british government. that's the supreme disagree. >> fundamental . the supreme >> very fundamental. the supreme court, remember, is not and i repeat this is very important

not a political body. it is a judicial body. it is independent of politics. and some people might say they might say that, but wrong. but it's wrong. >> us supreme court, which but it's wrong. >:hyperjs supreme court, which but it's wrong. >:hyper politiciseda court, which but it's wrong. >:hyper politicised . court, which but it's wrong. >:hyper politicised . when which is hyper politicised. when baroness hale wore her spider brooch and broke down the brexit plan that the government had, even though these are independently appointed people, many , many voters think of them many, many voters think of them as they may think activist, but that would be because of right leaning newspapers trying to encourage them in insidious ways to that no, judiciary to think that no, the judiciary is independent and on the facts. >> found that rwanda is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe found that rwanda is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe country. that rwanda is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe country. sort rwanda is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe country. so whatrnda is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe country. so what isia is not is independent and on the facts. >.safe country. so what is the not a safe country. so what is the what is the government now trying to what is it trying to do? what is it proposing in the latest proposing to do? in the latest farcical going try proposing to do? in the latest farci get going try proposing to do? in the latest farci get to going try proposing to do? in the latest farci get to parliament try proposing to do? in the latest farci get to parliament pretend and get to parliament pretend that rwanda is a safe country and then legislate on that basis i >> -- >> the un commended rwanda as a place that its own refugee program was working well with. are you denying that there are certain elements of the legal system in the uk? the good law project for example, that consistently by use lawfare,

i.e. politicise the judiciary in terms of trying to bring political arguments against the government through the courts. >> it doesn't politicise the judiciary. the good project judiciary. the good law project does does . it's not part does what it does. it's not part of judiciary . we've got to of the judiciary. we've got to be absolutely crystal clear about. they lawyers, right? about. they are lawyers, right? gillian so whatever gillian morgan and so whatever his and forth, jolyon gillian morgan and so whatever his then nd forth, jolyon gillian morgan and so whatever his then you'veorth, jolyon gillian morgan and so whatever his then you've got, jolyon gillian morgan and so whatever his then you've got the yon morgan, then you've got the judges. they are independently appointed and they are independent in what they do . if independent in what they do. if you have we are all human beings , you might have rogue judge, , you might have a rogue judge, but the but you have to show me the evidence that they evidence to tell me that they are rogue. >> well, have that >> well, i have to say that i thought under baroness hale there was sort of cultural there was a sort of cultural remainers ism at work that remainers ism at work in that particular case. but i sat and listened to the entirety of the rwanda judgement of the supreme court, hoping to be able to pick up a similar thing to then vent off about. and i have to say i didn't. i thought they stuck very much to the facts of law as it pertained and it will take years of rwanda . having listened

years of rwanda. having listened to british lawyers before the supreme court is going to be assured on this case. so i've always thought that we should be setting up our own offshoring on ascension island, which is a british overseas territory, rather than depending on a regime in one central african country to create this deterrent regime that is headed up by a president who has been in power for over two decades and who has a terrible human rights record right . right. >> well, we'll leave that there, because i've got another very exciting dating story because apparently obesity is costing our economy £98 billion. and that's to according analysis headed up by henry dimbleby, who is the government's former food adviser . is the government's former food adviser. here is the solution to this patrick smoking style. restrict asians on bad food . restrict asians on bad food. >> i'm not sure that it is. i think clearly we're a much fatter nation than we were. i

often look at online an you'll see pictures of blackpool beach from 1963. what do you notice the difference? no tattoos and almost no one is obese. and now because of whether it's cheap junk food , whatever it is, you junk food, whatever it is, you know , full of consumer know, full of consumer capitalism like , you know, a capitalism like, you know, a huge swathe, maybe a quarter of all adults are obese . i kind of all adults are obese. i kind of think there needs to be a mechanism where the people who've become obese and are potentially then loading big cos costs onto society kind of. i mean, it's a bit of a nasty thing to say, but suffer more of it themselves to create an incentive to, to shape up warnings on your buns on this. >> i'm about actually might surprise you on personal response ability. so a couple of months ago i was 17 stone i could sort of wear it i hoped i mean some people watched me on gb news and start talking about my jowls. i could sort of wear it. a jawline. i've it. now i have a jawline. i've lost a stone a quarter in lost a stone and a quarter in the of months by the last couple of months by walking 11,000 steps a day by playing every week, by

playing football every week, by doing and by doing a bit of jujitsu and by eating less. we've got to eating less. so we've got to encourage other, but in encourage each other, but not in a shaming way to lose a bit a fat shaming way to lose a bit of weight, something that struck a fat shaming way to lose a bit of wby ht, something that struck a fat shaming way to lose a bit of wby ht, sway, thing that struck a fat shaming way to lose a bit of wby ht, sway, inng that struck a fat shaming way to lose a bit of wby ht, way, in thisrat struck a fat shaming way to lose a bit of wby ht, way, in this article ck me, by the way, in this article that about that we're talking about is completely , is completely extraordinary, is that when do have an obesity that when we do have an obesity problem supposedly costing problem, it's supposedly costing us £100 billion a year. we also have a health secretary recently appointed by the prime minister, rishi who is recusing rishi sunak, who is recusing herself from policy involving sugar because she is literally married, someone who runs a sugar company. this is these are her own words. she is recusing herself from a little bit unfair. >> i mean , she can't help who >> i mean, she can't help who she's married to. no, rishi sunak could help who he appointed . appointed. >> home secretary might be appointed. >> bestiome secretary might be appointed. >> best personecretary might be appointed. >> best person , retary might be appointed. >> best person , butry might be appointed. >> best person , but howight be appointed. >> best person , but how could; the best person, but how could she be the best person the she be the best person for the job if she can't talk about sugar policy in this area? >> the last years even, >> in the last five years even, it's been incredibly paternalistic. we've had the government force super markets to change the layout of the shops, so you can't have sweets on the end of an aisle. they have to be mid aisle now and on

the end you have to have loo roll or whatever it is. should the government be making these decisions? >> people say we an >> people say we live in an obesity right . obesity jenik yes, right. >> me. >> society one on me. >> society one on me. >> do buy into that? >> do you buy into that? >> do you buy into that? >> as i say, you know, >> well, as i say, you know, there's that there's there's no doubt that there's a massive of the population massive chunk of the population charleton who are hideously fat. you know, i know. i know svelte person, but in my late 50s i still go running twice a week into the gym, once a week and make a token effort. >> makes you feel so much better. it's a cliche, but it does. it's so easy to have the extra bit of chocolate, but if you do the steps instead of the chocolate , feel about chocolate, you feel better about yourself . yourself. >> and so often we talk about this is of some this as if this is sort of some societal systemic thing. and it's calories in, calories out. something's going lose weight. yes. eat less, move more. >> something is going on there. right? because as said, we right? because as you said, we have fatter. and i can't have got fatter. and i can't remember when it was, but the remember when it was, but in the last so, men are last 20, 30 years or so, men are now six kilograms, six kilograms heavier we were women. five. food has become cheaper. >> food has become cheaper. contrary to a lot of media reporting, we have more sedentary jobs. we don't work in

heavy all sit at heavy industry. we all sit at desks and we have cars desks and we have lovely cars that drive us everywhere and we don't really move . we've got don't really move. we've got this caveman instinct to this same caveman instinct to get but we get all the calories in, but we have sedentary lifestyles have very sedentary lifestyles communicating other , communicating with each other, with digitally. with each other digitally. >> we? rather than >> can't we? rather than going to friend, can you to see a friend, you can you can whatsapp whatever. whatsapp them or whatever. but there's the food there's no doubt that the food available in supermarkets and fast food restaurants is fattening and we have to exercise absolute restraint. >> and i do think we shouldn't be too judgemental because , you be too judgemental because, you know, i think i think, you know, people have very different lifestyles. not always people have very different lifestfault not always people have very different lifestfault thatrot always people have very different lifestfault that they ways people have very different lifestfault that they ares absolutely. >> who are overweight >> and people who are overweight due are very, very due to disease are very, very different who just different to people who just overeat. but matthew stadler and matthew and congratulate matthew on your one and a half stone loss. we'll be back you in loss. we'll be back with you in the next hour. but plenty more to come here on. good afternoon. britain looks like things are heating up . heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor hours of weather on gb news is .

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gb news. >> good afternoon, britain. it's 2:00 on monday, the 4th of december. >> the big migrate gamble. we're expecting a seismic announcement from the home secretary this very afternoon detailing drastic action to slash immigration. we'll bring you the latest live from westminster as we get it . from westminster as we get it. >> cut your cloth . the prime >> cut your cloth. the prime minister is also expected to block a 9% increase in the bbc licence fee after he warned the corporation that it needs to be really quick about what the pubhc really quick about what the public can afford . could it be public can afford. could it be game over for the telly tax climate conference. >> disarray. chaos in dubai. as the president of cop26 says, there's no science behind just stopping oil, warning that

phasing out coal, oil and gas would take the world back into caves. would take the world back into caves . is he right would take the world back into caves. is he right. >> and here's a funny story. >> and here's a funny story. >> well, it's outrageous . >> well, it's outrageous. >> well, it's outrageous. >> lincoln christmas market. it's one of the oldest christmas markets in the united kingdom has been cancelled by the local labour council because it was too popular . labour council because it was too popular. yes. >> so essentially too many people were going to this what looks like an absolutely idyllic christmas market. too many people were going . so therefore people were going. so therefore it's a safety risk. so health and safety once again got in the way and it is a labour run council. so labour have now opened themselves up to the claim that labour wants to cancel christmas. not a great pr move in my in my view, i just don't know why people hate the idea of bustling markets. >> that's what this country should be about. napoleon decried the united kingdom for

being of shopkeepers. being a nation of shopkeepers. that's should be that's what we should be celebrating at christmas. >> you said this also is you >> but you said this also is you know, something to do with our our growth mindset. oh, yeah. >> anti—growth coalition. >> rather than grow the market. yes. >> they just have to shut it down. just like sadiq khan cancelled the new venue , the cancelled the new venue, the sphere arena that was meant to be going in east london. so have labour lincoln council cancelled the christmas market everywhere across the country you get politicians shutting down growth, shutting down jobs . growth, shutting down jobs. >> well, let us know if you have been to the lincoln christmas market before and what we're missing, what we're all missing this in the area this year. if you're in the area , i will say the labour led council has said that they are evolving sing their christmas calendar . so evolving sing their christmas calendar. so we'll see if evolving sing their christmas calendar . so we'll see if there calendar. so we'll see if there are equal festivities going on elsewhere. >> events that just don't feel quite so marketed . quite so marketed. >> okay, well we'll get to lots more, including that announcement about migration soon after the headlines with

tatiana . tatiana. >> emily, thank you and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the home secretary is expected to announce a package of new measures to bring down legal migration. it's understood james cleverly will raise the minimum salary requirement for those coming to the uk from just over £26,000 to around 38,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what's necessary to bring down net migration after official figures hit a record high of 745,000 last yeah record high of 745,000 last year. downing street says the new measures will focus on clamping down on abuse in the legal migration system . legal migration system. meanwhile, downing street has rejected claims the government will give rwanda another £15 million to sign a new immigration treaty. it's understood the home secretary is close to finalising the plan after the supreme court ruled against it in november. the agreement could see british lawyers sent to rwanda to advise

judges on asylum cases as the prime minister says, the bbc should be really think about what people can afford . amid what people can afford. amid reports of a planned increase to the tv licence fee it's currently £159 per year, but it's thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9% next year to just over £173. the culture secretary , lucy frazer says the planned rise would be a very high amid cost of living pressures . gb cost of living pressures. gb news understands the broadcaster could be forced to accept a lower increase as the president of the cop28 climate summit in dubai says he's surprised by reports suggesting that he denies a key aspect of climate science. sultan al was criticised in november after he said there was no scientific bafis said there was no scientific basis for limiting a rise in global temperatures to 1.5. and speaking at the summit today, he said his comments were taken out of context in an attempt to undermine the aim of the conference, as he reiterated his

full belief in climate science . full belief in climate science. >> and i have repeatedly said and in many occasions and in many different platforms , that many different platforms, that it is the science that have guided the principles of our strategy as cop 28 presidency and have been very crystal clear about that. and i hope that this time i am clearer and getting this message across . the this message across. the ministry of defence's plan for new weapons has a budget black hole of £169 new weapons has a budget black hole of £16.9 billion. >> the national audit office said. the mod's ten year programme until 2033 was unaffordable and the projected deficit is the biggest since 2012. it's put the estimated cost at more than £300 billion against a budget of . just over against a budget of. just over 288 billion , well around almost 288 billion, well around almost £4 billion is being put into a rail project for the north of england. ministers are promising

to invest £3.9 billion to upgrade the trans pennine route connecting manchester, huddersfield , leeds and york. huddersfield, leeds and york. it's after the prime minister scrapped the northern leg of the hs2 route between manchester and birmingham. this year. a number of tory mps are calling for a new body to help infected blood victims , with some backbenchers victims, with some backbenchers set to join forces with labour on payouts over the scandal. thousands of people contracted hiv and hepatitis c after being given contaminated blood products in the 1970s and 80, as reports suggest that ministers are unlikely to shift their positions while the inquiry is ongoing . but shadow chancellor ongoing. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves confirmed labour will support an amendment with a body created to pay out compensation . more than 30 flood compensation. more than 30 flood warnings have been issued as the risk of snow subsides . heavy risk of snow subsides. heavy rains expected across large parts of the uk follows a night of subzero temperatures and heavy snowfall in the north,

with nearly 40 schools closed in cumbria . the yellow alerts for cumbria. the yellow alerts for rain are in place across southern england, south—east wales and into the midlands until 6:00 tonight. and a yellow rain warning is also in place for northeast england until 9:00 tomorrow morning . now, the plane tomorrow morning. now, the plane carrying the uk's only giant pandas has now taken off to carry them back to china. it marks the end of their 12 year stay at edinburgh zoo , where stay at edinburgh zoo, where yang huang and tian tian were the star attraction. it was hoped they'd breed while in scotland , but they didn't scotland, but they didn't produce a cub . when they arrive produce a cub. when they arrive in chengdu, they'll spend time in chengdu, they'll spend time in quarantine before going to a panda sanctuary. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily

news. now back to tom and. emily >> good afternoon , britain. >> good afternoon, britain. we're keeping a very close eye on westminster this afternoon as the home secretary is expected to announce drastic action, drastic plans to slash legal migration. >> yes . so migration. >> yes. so james migration. >> yes . so james cleverly will >> yes. so james cleverly will address the commons this afternoon. he's going to unveil afternoon. he's going to unveil a package of measures, including a package of measures, including a massive hike to the minimum salary required by skilled workers to get a visa . workers to get a visa. >> well, with the very latest, as our political editor christopher hope and christopher , you've been speaking to some of the key decision makers and their representatives this afternoon. what are we expecting to hear . to hear. >> well, around 415 today, they brought forward the announcement in the house of commons. we're going to hear news from the government how it to government on how it plans to tackle the ballooning net migration figure. and also later this the illegal migration this week, the illegal migration figure. take let's take figure. let's take let's take net first. that's the net migration first. that's the number which the government allows through allows to come across through the the ports, through the through the ports, through the through the ports, through the customs checks with a visa .

the customs checks with a visa. they're looking at trying to control number. it was up control that number. it was up to 740,000 or so year . to 740,000 or so last year. that's 740,000 people more arrived than left this country. and given the pressure on public services, you might wonder why that's happening, given that number by the number can be controlled by the government. government government. the government has woken maybe bit woken up to that maybe a bit late for some people and recognise to be dealt recognise this needs to be dealt with. they're going to try and increase to increase the salary threshold to get a visa from around 26,000 a year to 38,000 a year, not as high maybe as suella braverman wanted 40 or 45,000 a year, but certainly returning it to a graduate level of pay. so really foreign graduates can come here and settle , but nobody else. the and settle, but nobody else. the idea is to try and try and force employers to fill the a million, the million or so job vacancies with the 6 million working age adults who are not working and some of whom are on benefits, try and get them into work and try and get them into work and try find work for people who try and find work for people who are already. that's one are here already. that's one idea. also looking at idea. they're also looking at trying to crack down on dependents are brought over dependents who are brought over with arriving here.

with people arriving here. they've down on students they've cracked down on students doing may health doing that. it may be the health workers bring family workers can't bring family members. also, they come to members. also, if they come to work with the work here to deal with the shortage in the nhs and care settings , that's one part of it. settings, that's one part of it. the other part of it, of course, is illegal arrivals across the south coast. now, we know the pm wants stop the boats. that's wants to stop the boats. that's his but his quote, stop the boats. but so far hasn't happened yet. numbers are down about numbers are down by about a third year of bad third this year because of bad weather. also deals with albania and turkey has helped bring that figure even so, we figure down. but even so, we have beaten the record set in 2021, although we're nowhere near the figure set in 2022. but we are more than came here in 2021 by small boats. the government wants to break that model by forcing anyone who arrives to here go to rwanda and be be processed there. they've got reassure judge is here, got to reassure judge is here, but therefore they're going to pass a law or try and propose a law probably on thursday this week, mean that if week, which will mean that if you rwanda, you you are sent to rwanda, you can't sent back place can't be sent back to the place you're to protect you're fleeing from to protect those human of those those human rights of those people leaving . but people who are leaving. but equally, issue, can't

equally, the issue, they can't they don't want lawyers to use they don't want lawyers to use the human rights of these arrivals them to stay arrivals to force them to stay here than go rwanda . here rather than go to rwanda. so it's a big week for rishi sunak. would say a sunak. i would say it's a seismic assuring seismic week on him, assuring the tory, right, maybe many who voted for brexit back in 2016, members of the party that he understands the concerns of harmony, high migration and will try and take measures to stop it because labour's answer is nothing like the tories one. if the tories can crack this nut, they've got real chance. they've got a real chance. i think better chance at the think a better chance at the next election. >> if our gb news >> christopher if our gb news inboxis >> christopher if our gb news inbox is anything to go by, they've got an uphill struggle to build back that trust on immigration. lots of our viewers pointing out that net migration has been at record levels and that trust is gone as well . that trust is gone as well. >> it's their own fault. the government was this government was elected when net was elected in 2019 when net migration was 219,000 a year. it was 740,000 a year. in 2022, just four years later, that's an increase . well, a more than

increase. well, a more than trebling in the figure that it was when they came in and they're going to bring it down now. i asked the pm's now. i asked in the pm's spokesman in the morning meeting with reporters is, is that still the intention of the government to bring down net migration to below 219,000 a year? they said yes . and also i also said is, is yes. and also i also said is, is that the intention of the government boats? government to stop the boats? and yes. the problem and they said yes. the problem is happening. is it's not happening. and i think lots of people, including the minister, recognise the prime minister, recognise that there was a frustration that there was a frustration that talk getting that all this talk is getting nowhere. they're doing nothing about about time about it and it's about time something happened. and i think this maybe blatantly this week maybe, maybe blatantly for gb news viewers emailing you both, it might may start to happenin both, it might may start to happen in really interesting below 219,000, that's probably more than most people were expecting if that is still their ambition. >> just finally, chris, we're expecting keir starmer to make a pretty large speech this very afternoon. what do we expecting him to say? yeah well the labour is moving towards the centre

ground trying to steal votes from the tory party. >> don't forget there's an election in barely a year away now and he'll make clear he supports what margaret thatcher did in the 80s and trying to shake out the economic torpor in this country and get the economy moving . he wrote an article in moving. he wrote an article in the sunday telegraph yesterday and that prompted the expected reaction you might expect. tom and emily from people on twitter very crossed that a labour leader would go anywhere near supporting margaret thatcher of course is blamed for closing the coal mines in the 80s and abandoning ports to other to abandoning the ports to other to other countries and the way she treated the industrial north and in fact scotland with with the poll tax is still used as a weapon with which to beat up the tory party. so i think it's good politics by keir starmer. he knows that the voters on the left have nowhere else to go and apart from vote labour, so why not further the middle not tack further into the middle and try and win around some wavering tory supporters? so i think quite clever think it's quite, quite clever politics distinctly annoying

probably for tories who feel that should be a place owned by the tory party, not the labour party . equally annoying the tory party, not the labour party. equally annoying for those on left can't bear those on the left who can't bear margaret i find it margaret thatcher. i find it completely, deeply ironic that the same people saying we should just stop oil >> say what an awful woman. margaret thatcher was for closing the mines. yes closing the coal mines. yes well, you some well, there you go. some cognitive political, isn't it? >> thank much , >> thank you very much, christopher political christopher hope, our political edhoh christopher hope, our political editor, , before on, editor, now, before we move on, i quickly want to say i just very quickly want to say we were talking about lincoln christmas market and it being cancelled by the labour run council there this year, this christmas . lots of you have been christmas. lots of you have been getting in touch about the market it's absolutely market saying it's absolutely splendid. it's the most christmassy ever and that christmassy thing ever and that they're really disappointed that it's being being closed . it's being being closed. apparently it's the better than chester bath any markets in london? it's the best in the uk . london? it's the best in the uk. >> blimey. well let's hope it's back on next year and we'll have to some gb news reporters to send some gb news reporters out explore . that would be a out to explore. that would be a good gig, actually. i'll put my hand put my hand up for that

one, but moving on, culture one, but moving on, the culture secretary says that secretary lucy fraser says that a £15 in the bbc licence a £15 rise in the bbc licence fee would be high. lucy fraser said she's concerned that a significant rise in the fee would add to cost of living pressures. yes, this amid pressures. yes, this comes amid reports that sunak is reports that rishi sunak is actually set to block a 9% hike in the annual bill. >> the rise would push the charge up to £173. it currently stands at £159 per year. so quite the increase as well. >> gb news viewer tug wilson joins us now . >> gb news viewer tug wilson joins us now. he >> gb news viewer tug wilson joins us now . he thinks that the joins us now. he thinks that the licence fee is too high and that pensioners over the age of 75 or 80 should not be required to pension to purchase one tug. thank you so much for making the time for us this afternoon . on time for us this afternoon. on £173 would be a pretty sizeable chunk out of most people's pay packets, but i suppose particular for pensioners, it's quite a lot of money, it is a lot of money, but the most important thing in my view to i'm 86 now is the number of

people in this country who rely upon the television for their socialising . socialising. >> there's nothing else they can't go out and they have to rely upon their tv for contact and all the other stuff and it's just ridiculous to think that the suddenly out of a few years ago we were given a free when you reach 70, you got a free licence and now suddenly they want nearly £200 to where does this money's coming from ? this money's coming from? >> tug so you think it's actually quite a cruel tax for pensioners because they can be reliant on television, as you say, loneliness may be living alone, may not be able to go outside and engage in other activities. tv can actually be a bit of a lifeline and then to have to fork out potentially . have to fork out potentially. £179 a year, a bit cruel.

>> it is . you're absolutely >> it is. you're absolutely right. and this is the point i make. you get to this end of the calendar and there's not a lot left for you to do and nobody seems to be interested at all. i keep hearing about is the cost of living and go on this and go on that. at the end of the day, we can't go and get another job. we can't go and get anotherjob. we can't in improve our income . we can't in improve our income. >> so i'm really sorry. i'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there. but thank you so much, wilson, for joining much, tug wilson, for joining us. labour leader keir us. the labour leader keir starmer is on his feet. let's listen in. >> and everyone here at the resolution foundation , for all resolution foundation, for all the vital work you do guiding that mission . i know it's been that mission. i know it's been a busy year for and i'm sorry, i can't promise that next year will be any easier now , i will be any easier now, i suspect that this is a room that likes a graph and not in the way the lib dems do . so i'd like to

the lib dems do. so i'd like to start by drawing your attention to a chart published by the resolution foundation following the autumn statement , resolution foundation following the autumn statement, and some of you will have seen it before. it's truly shocking because what it shows is that this parliament is on track to be the first in modern history where living standards in this country have actually contracted and household income growth is down by 3.1. >> in britain , in worse off. >> in britain, in worse off. >> in britain, in worse off. >> now, over the last 13 years, we may have become a little desensitised to findings like this , but these aren't the this, but these aren't the concerns . lines of the past . concerns. lines of the past. this isn't living standards rising too slowly or unequal contractions and concentration of wealth and opportunity . contractions and concentration of wealth and opportunity. this is britain going backward booths decline , not just diagnosed decline, not just diagnosed subjectively by politicians , a

subjectively by politicians, a decline that can be measured and experienced in the homes, the pockets and the aspirations and anxiety of millions of people across britain now , i'm not here across britain now, i'm not here today to hit you over the head with the statistics that flow from that , but that's torsten's from that, but that's torsten's job now. but what this does to a country , the cultural trauma country, the cultural trauma that this needs to be understood . i go that this needs to be understood .1 go back that this needs to be understood . i go back to the 1970s, growing up in an ordinary working class household , a working class household, a decade where we had our fair share of cost of living crisis . share of cost of living crisis. i know what this feels like. i know when you're struggling to make ends meet and we were that the natural response of working people to work harder and harder can feel like you're running fast and faster into a brick

wall that rising prices create this kind of what next anxiety , this kind of what next anxiety, a fear and it really is that of going to the shops because of the decisions you might have to make and yet that graph shows unequivocally that this is worse than the 1970s. we worse than the recessions of the 1980s and 1990s. worse even than the global crash of 2008 and before anyone ventures the pandemic and the war in ukraine as explanations, big shocks undoubtedly , we i point to the undoubtedly, we i point to the evidence the economy 2030 inquiry has set out that length that our productivity failings, the root cause predate those shocks and that other countries comparable countries have dealt with those same challenges much more effectively . so we are in a

more effectively. so we are in a hole no doubt about it . and what hole no doubt about it. and what this feels like is a clouding over a loss of the future because of what my parents felt in the 1970s was that whilst day to day life was often tough , the to day life was often tough, the future would be a happier place. britain would be better for your children , hard work in the end. children, hard work in the end. in the long run would be rewarded . and that was actually rewarded. and that was actually a comfort to them. a security blanket if you like. but one which for working people in britain. now sadly no longer exists . well, there were the exists. well, there were the thrilling words of the most fascinating and interesting man in politics, sir keir starmer , in politics, sir keir starmer, talking about labour's plan for growth and the graphs he loves a good graph and was referencing many of them for us there. >> yes, the resolution foundation . essentially he was foundation. essentially he was suggesting that we are in a

worse position than we were in the 1970s. when it comes to our economy. so of course he'll be setting out his growth plan. we'll bring you the we'll bring you any of the biggest that . biggest lines from that. anything exciting, interesting . anything exciting, interesting. we'll deliver it to you very shortly

thursday from six till 930 . thursday from six till 930. right >> well, coming up later this afternoon , the government will afternoon, the government will attempt to turn around their

prospects at the next election by announcing a few big measures. actually a package of measures. actually a package of measures on migration to bring those net migration figures down. so we'll bring you the very latest. but the big freeze is here and it's hit areas of the uk after a weekend of snow caused major disruption across the country. >> these are the wintry scenes at winnats pass in the peak district . now, not everyone district. now, not everyone could enjoy the beautiful, snowy landscapes nearly 800 properties in cumbria were left without power and many motorists in the lake district were left stranded. >> yes. now the met office has issued nearly 30 flood warnings across the uk . heavy rain is across the uk. heavy rain is expected across the country, so those beautiful scenes that we're looking at now now are probably going to turn a little more a little more dreary. but battling the weather in derbyshire is reporter , will derbyshire is our reporter, will hollis. will can you bring us the latest from where you are ? i the latest from where you are? i can a dusting of snow there . can see a dusting of snow there. >> yes. well i suppose the good

news is that in most of the country , the snow has now country, the snow has now stopped but stopped. >> but it's been replaced by rain. >> where we are in the picturesque town of matlock . a picturesque town of matlock. a lot of the snow has started to melt. it's not quite snow . it's melt. it's not quite snow. it's not quite ice, but i don't think it can be called slush yet. it's basically warnings everywhere across britain right now. if you go into the north, you'd find a met office warning for scotland for ice, for northern parts of england, the northeast for newcastle and for teesside, for northumberland. you'd find a yellow weather met office warning for rain down in the south south wales down in places like dorset and somerset. you're also going to get that yellow weather warning for rain and that's where those flood warnings comes in, particularly around the south, around 30 or so flood warnings and those mean that there is flooding expected where the environment agency has

put those alerts out . of course, put those alerts out. of course, it's very cold right now as well. the uk health and security agency, they've put out two separate health alerts , an amber separate health alerts, an amber health alert for cold. >> that's for northern parts of england , for the midlands, where england, for the midlands, where i am right now, but also a yellow one, slightly less, but still a big risk because of the cold in parts of southern england. >> now they put those out particularly to warn people who are vulnerable that there is a risk to their health because of the cold, particularly people with heart problems, cardiovascular vascular diseases, people that are maybe a little bit older . those are a little bit older. those are the people that are at risk. and that they're warning about right now . and when you've got a lot now. and when you've got a lot of cold, cold, when you've got a lot of wet weather and a lot of snow, you end up with icy conditions on the road. the rac , conditions on the road. the rac, they've been describing those conditions today as like driving around on an ice rink. that's because the snow that came at the weekend has all now melted.

but then last night, the weekend has all now melted. but then last night , those cold but then last night, those cold temperatures subzero it refroze it again. so driver on a car is exactly like it is. they've described driving on an ice rink i >> -- >> gosh. >> gosh. >> well, will hollis, let's hope that that is properly gritted all of those roads and that no bambi like scenes are seen with vehicles as around derbyshire will hollis thank you so much for bringing us the very latest. >> we really aren't very good at coping with bad weather. >> no. don't know. >> oh no. but i don't know. i mean, i suppose countries that expect of snow expect feet and feet of snow sort infrastructure sort of have the infrastructure to for it. to prepare for it. >> that is true. now we're going to turn our attention to paris because anti—terrorism prosecutors have opened an investigation after a man armed with a knife and a hammer killed a german tourist and left two, including a british man wounded near the eiffel tower in paris. this was on saturday night. >> yes, organisers and politicians face questions politicians now face questions over particularly over security, particularly ahead of next year's olympics, to be hosted in paris.

ahead of next year's olympics, to be hosted in paris . well, we to be hosted in paris. well, we can now cross to paris and speak with the political broadcaster antonin andre and antonin. thank you so much forjoining us. the most extraordinary news, i think we've learned about this attack is that the individual people behind it had recently been released from prison after he expressed support for islamic state. >> it yes , there are a lot of >> it yes, there are a lot of questions around you know, the way to contain and to and to keep this these people who are maybe sometimes islamic and terrorist, but also they are psychiatric, psychiatric hill and they have diseases of psychiatric injuries. >> and it's very difficult for french people to coordinate between the jail and the hospital. and there is there is a space which is a bit like a white space where it's difficult

to take this, this, this, this, this figure and to neutralise to neutralise them. it's all the debate in france by now because we have a new law about immigration and terrorism and it's the point one of the point is how we can have a better a better protection against this, this, this, this . it's wolf. you this, this, this. it's wolf. you know, they are they are lonely, wolf. and it's difficult to keep them away from the system and them away from the system and the cities and to protect people i >> -- >> and this 5mm >> and this isn't the first of these types of attacks france has seen in recent months. i want to get an idea of how the french people are feeling. is there anger , frustration, fear for. >> no, no , not fear, not anger. >> no, no, not fear, not anger. you know , you have to understand you know, you have to understand that there were there were an attack in dublin in great britain also. and they are in several countries in europe. you know, there are sometimes some some lonely wolves who get a

knife and they kill what they can in the street. and not always is not always a plan or a ification of these attacks. and you know, you have to be careful because, yes, there were an aggression this weekend near the eiffel tower. that's true. against the tourists. that's true. but, you know, the security locked down and the all the whole dispositive of security around the olympic games are not now now in place. so, yes , we are vulnerable and so, yes, we are vulnerable and we can't lock down all the cities . and to prevent all this cities. and to prevent all this this these lone wolves who attack . attack. >> i think i think i should say that in france, we are we are fear. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think the frustration and it's also in this country and in many countries in europe is that sometimes these suspects who carry out these attacks are already known to the authorities

. and that's where that frustration comes from . frustration comes from. >> yes, but yes , i agree with >> yes, but yes, i agree with you. it's the case in france also. that's why there is a low in debate at the at the parliament now in france. but but it's difficult because we are also democracy. so there is are also democracy. so there is a link or a gap between a democracy and a repression and a and the measures that that could that could be against the rights of everybody of the freedom of everybody. it's the problem with the democracy. you are not in a dictator. you can't contain people and maintain them in their home if there is no no injuries , no no judgement, no injuries, no no judgement, no justice in the statement. so yes, we are vulnerable . but must yes, we are vulnerable. but must we also change everything and say them? we are fierce . so we say them? we are fierce. so we gon, we gon you know, completely. >> i completely understand your

point. you want to keep the freedom of the majority of people because these types of people because of these types of attacks. thank you very much indeed. broadcast on indeed. political broadcast on andre we go. my french andre there we go. my french degree coming in handy . degree coming in handy. >> marvellous headlines >> marvellous well headlines with tatiana are up . next with tatiana are up. next >> tom thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom from the labour leader says his party would not turn on public spending taps. speaking at the economy inquiry in london, sir keir said too much public spending would be ruthless and accused the tories of letting pubhc accused the tories of letting public finances deteriorate, striking an optimistic tone. he said labour would focus on economic growth to raise living standards if we are privileged enough to be elected next year. >> the quack diagnosis, the search for distractions and excuses. search for distractions and excuses . all of that ends excuses. all of that ends because the defining purpose of

the next labour government, the mission that stands above all others , is will be raising others, is will be raising britain's productivity growth , a britain's productivity growth, a goal that for my labour party will become an obsession . the will become an obsession. the home secretary is expected to announce a package of new measures to bring down legal migration. >> it's understood james cleverly will raise the minimum salary requirement for those coming to the to the uk from just over 26,000 to around £38,000. it follows the prime minister's promise to do what's necessary to bring down net migration after official figures hit a record high of 745,000 last year. downing street says the new measures will focus on clamping down on abuse in the legal migration system . legal migration system. meanwhile it's understood the home secretary will head to rwanda to finalise a new agreement that could see british lawyers advised on asylum cases. downing street has rejected claims it will give rwanda another £15 million to sign the

treaty after reports that it would come in addition to the existing £140 million scheme . existing £140 million scheme. the prime minister says the bbc should be realistic about licence fee increases. it's currently £159 per year, but it's thought the corporation wants to hike the charge by as much as 9% next year to just over £173. the culture secretary , lucy frazer says the planned rise would be a very would be very high amid cost of living pressures. dup news understands the broadcaster could be forced to accept a lower increase . you to accept a lower increase. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> well, coming up, we'll be discussing a seismic report that claims generation z is just as likely to describe hamas members of hamas as freedom fighters as they are terrorists. much more on this concerning news after

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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 9.30 on . gb sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news right . news right. >> well, we've migrated to the sofa, which means it's time for our political panel. once again, political commentator matthew stadlen and the columnist and former mep patrick o'flynn. thank for joining former mep patrick o'flynn. thank forjoining us once thank you for joining us once again. is a rather again. now, this is a rather concerning report that we've got here we want to talk to you

about. it's a report from morin common, which claims that generation is just as likely generation z is just as likely to describe members of hamas as freedom fighters as they are terrorists . terrorists. >> yes. and let's remember generation z in this report being defined as those 18 to 24 years of age. but the report also found that on the whole , also found that on the whole, brits are not as divided on the conflict as it may appear. and are sympathetic to both sides . are sympathetic to both sides. but those 18 to 24 are much more likely to sympathise with the palestinian side and concerning that description of hamas as well , it doesn't surprise that description of hamas as well, it doesn't surprise me . well, it doesn't surprise me. >> patrick no, because because i don't know if you're a user of the social media platform , the social media platform, tiktok, but scrolling through it, you are constantly bombarded with imagery of pro—palestine protests . it's sometimes even protests. it's sometimes even content that appears to be, although maybe sometimes not explicitly pro hamas . so it's explicitly pro hamas. so it's there and obviously young people

are consuming this content. >> yes, i'm not a tiktoker myself, but no, i do young people in my life who won't put it like that, who who are . and i it like that, who who are. and i very much i think tiktok is driving some of this, but i also think if you're thinking of 18 to 24 year olds, you know, half of them will either recently have been through higher education or be in higher education. and this, again, raises concerns about campus life . life. and diversity of opinion on campus, for instance. and that the whole woke binary thing where are encouraged to where people are encouraged to sort struggle where people are encouraged to sort two struggle where people are encouraged to sort two groupsuggle between two groups and you identify the more successful group successful group and the less successful group. support group and the less successful grotless support group and the less successful grotless successful support group and the less successful grotless successful group, pport group and the less successful grotless successful group, noyrt the less successful group, no matter what they've done to add to you look matter what they've done to add to israel you look matter what they've done to add to israel palestine, you look matter what they've done to add to israel palestine, which u look matter what they've done to add to israel palestine, which islook at israel palestine, which is the of those the more successful of those countries you countries terrains, however you

want well israel want to describe it. well israel is really successful. therefore want to describe it. well israel is repalestiniansful. therefore want to describe it. well israel is repalestiniansful. tibeefore the palestinians must be oppressed. therefore we support them. whatever they do, they are them. whatever they do, they are the i think the freedom fighters. i think that is literally how superficial do you superficial it can be. do you think that sort of think it's that sort of oppressor, based oppressor, oppressed based narrative easier to narrative where it's easier to pick a winner? >> there's clearly fertile ground on social media platforms for radicalisation to take place , and this is very depressing. >> the idea that a substantial tranche of 18 to 24 year olds are confused seeing hamas with freedom fighters . i don't know freedom fighters. i don't know whether you guys read a piece in the sunday times yesterday by the sunday times yesterday by the absolutely brilliant war correspondent christina lamb, but she'd been talking to people in israel. she's been there about horrors of october the about the horrors of october the 7th and the sexual the extreme sexual violence that took place on that day. and it's a very difficult read, but it's a really important read. so anyone who is under any illusion as to what hamas are and they're effectively a death cult and they indulged in medieval savagery on october 7th should,

i'm afraid , read that piece. i'm afraid, read that piece. sometimes people get confused by a cause with with the terrorists who might also identify with that cause. but it also works the other way. so there are a lot of people who have sympathy with israel as i do, and believe that it should exist or who allow themselves to get carried away on that cause to justify what i would argue is totally unjustifiable . bombing in gaza , unjustifiable. bombing in gaza, the extent of it and the extent of civilian deaths. >> it's interesting, though, do we have of a responsibility here to step back and say, yes , a to step back and say, yes, a substantial proportion of gen z are saying this , but not a are saying this, but not a majority, 24, according to this poll , the same proportion that poll, the same proportion that define described hamas as terrorist acts. and there are four options on that poll are terrorists freedom fighters, militants and don't know. and it was about it. it was a smaller

proportion for militants. and then the largest of all proportions for don't know , are proportions for don't know, are we at risk of overemphasis , we at risk of overemphasis, asking how gen z feels about this? how many of them are actually politicised ? actually politicised? >> there's this really important conversation to have, isn't it? because youngsters or because 24% of youngsters or young adults who think that hamas is a freedom organisation rather than terrorists, that is something we need . we need to something we need. we need to deal with address. we don't want to bury that away. it has to be given the oxygen of publicity, however it is. but patrick, however ugly it is. but patrick, have they have they actually thought ? thought it through? >> they just they >> no. know are they just they probably haven't thought it through. maybe maybe through. and maybe yes, maybe they see the loss of life in gaza and they assume therefore, yeah, that's that's the side to be sort of peer group pressure thing. >> i hope most of them will grow out of it and i think they may well. and as you write, 24. yes, it's pretty much 1 in 4. but you know, as people mature and learn

more about the basic facts of the matter, you would to hope see that tail away sometimes some of the most politically engaged people at that age . engaged people at that age. >> yes. they're idealistic . and >> yes. they're idealistic. and yes, the idea of palestinians having their own state is a just cause and one that you can call idealist nick, but where are they living these people? how can ignorance be an excuse? who doesn't know what happened on october 7? at least have a rough idea with organisations like the bbc refuse to use the word terrorists using the word militants, which is much more neutral, as if these are two equal sides, not one democracy fighting, one terror group is there an issue there with how some broad casters are reporting this? i think i was very clear at the time and i had a sort of conversation with it. it was perhaps a one sided conversation with john simpson , who i know with john simpson, who i know a little bit. and i have a lot of respect for. and was respect for. and he was defending line it defending the bbc line that it wasn't people wasn't calling these people terrorists. thought it was terrorists. i thought it was completely ridiculous they terrorists. i thought it was complelely ridiculous they terrorists. i thought it was

complei suspectrlous they terrorists. i thought it was complei suspect that they terrorists. i thought it was complei suspect that a they terrorists. i thought it was complei suspect that a mainey didn't. i suspect that a main reason why they didn't is because they were looking around the corners and there will be a lot of people in this country who see what israel is doing now in as terrorising in gaza as terrorising a civilian population . and they civilian population. and they probably didn't want to get themselves into position where they started to think they needed to call israel's actions acts of terrorism . acts of terrorism. >> and they are in a situation where there employees well, we've seen employees protesting one way and the other when it comes to the bbc's coverage . comes to the bbc's coverage. >> i mean, aside from the terrorist terminology, as i recall in the early days , post recall in the early days, post october the 7th, they weren't even describing hamas as gunmen when it was fighters, which was almost veering towards the sympathetic side . they could sympathetic side. they could have at least said hamas gunmen killed people even before they they'd solved this idea of, shall we say , terrorists or not. shall we say, terrorists or not. but i don't think the bbc has the weight of voice amongst the age group we're talking about to

have been to the decisive impact. >> it's more on tiktok, isn't it 7 >> it's more on tiktok, isn't it ? shall we move on to a conversation that's that's slightly closer to home in so far as this channel itself soon leaves door open to nigel farage to join the conservative party. patrick, do you think that nigel might actually end up as the leader of the conservative party >> i don't think it's his next act , but british politics is so act, but british politics is so fluid at the moment and changing so fast you couldn't completely rule it out for after the election. you know, knowing nigel, as i do , i think he'll nigel, as i do, i think he'll come back and he'll sniff the blood of liberal conservatism and he will think, perhaps i want to be part of that. you know, particularly with david cameron back and remember, you may not remember this, but i do from back in the day, david cameron described ukip as fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly me. and i know that that deeply irritated nigel. and there's some

unfinished business there . the unfinished business there. the conservatives seem to me running really scared of farage, certainly since the party conference where nigel got hero's reception, particularly from younger members who walked straight past cabinet ministers to have selfies taken. >> there he is on the screen . >> there he is on the screen. >> there he is on the screen. >> so i think i think he's in a very interesting and powerful fulcrum position for politics next year. and i don't think the tories are going to be the ones choosing whether he's in them or in reform, making their life a misery. he's itching to come in. >> i think the real power power now lies with richard tice, also a presenter on gb news. and the reason i think the power lies with him is because, unlike in 2019, when nigel farage stood down, hundreds of candidates in tory winnable seats, which helped boris johnson to his 80 seat land slide. richard tice and i've spoken to him about this, has absolutely no intention of doing the same thing. he really doesn't like this tory party and i don't think nigel farage likes this

tory party either. he may return from the jungle baying for tory blood . there is no way he is blood. there is no way he is going to jump onto a sinking conservative ship ahead of the next election . in no way. next election. in no way. >> but it's interesting that in 2019, when the then brexit party stood down in conservative held seats, mainly because they were terrified of jeremy corbyn and they thought, you know what better to get brexit done. it was almost tacit endorsement of bofis was almost tacit endorsement of boris johnson , although not in boris johnson, although not in every seat. and there was some suggestion he would have suggestion that he would have won maybe dozen, maybe two won maybe a dozen, maybe two dozen boris johnson dozen more seats. boris johnson if hadn't, they'd stood if they hadn't, if they'd stood down in every seat. yeah, but is this a tacit admission here from richard tice starmer isn't richard tice that starmer isn't that scary? >> well, you know, clearly starmer is not jeremy corbyn, but equally, you know, the brexit party was called the brexit party was called the brexit party. we'd voted for brexit party. we'd voted for brexit three years earlier. it hadnt brexit three years earlier. it hadn't been done. and whatever you thought of boris deal, it was much more real and supportable than theresa may's

deal. supportable than theresa may's deal . and so it was almost like deal. and so it was almost like being a card player. now's the time to take your profits for nigel to ensure that a tory majority and brexit got done. that simply doesn't apply in the current context. >> the reason this is still a story and it cropped up, i think we were on screen together at the was because , as nigel the time was because, as nigel farage seen at the tory conference, sunak refused to rule out then, didn't he? the idea of farage joining and he's refused to rule it out again now and why has he refused to rule it out saying we are a broad church precisely. i think as you say, because he is running very, very scared of farage and the reform. >> if the conservatives lose the next election, which at the moment looks highly probable , moment looks highly probable, yes, there will be a huge debate around what the conservatives stand for internally . yes, and stand for internally. yes, and that does potentially mean that nigel farage could. yeah, he was accepted to shape the party in his image . it does.

his image. it does. >> it's a potential for a reverse takeover by the smaller party of what what would have previously been the bigger one, particularly if someone like suella braverman who doesn't disagree with nigel about very much, were to take over. but i think, again, there's a lottery element. say there's 120 tory mps . which constituencies are mps. which constituencies are they from ? are they they from? are they predominantly blue wall liberal leaning mps who come back and if so, they may have a veto on an out and out social conservative taking over. so i think nigel doesn't have to make that decision about whether to revive the flagging corpse of the tory party and take it over or try and replace it with with reform altogether. he doesn't need to take that decision, but he sees where things lay in that . where things lay in that. >> nigel farage clearly, i think has a higher base than rishi sunak, but he might have a lower ceiling than rishi sunak and there might be forms of conservative party leaders , the conservative party leaders, the sort of sunak or even cameron mould , who reach out to more mould, who can reach out to more than 30% of the country who

could reach out to perhaps 43% of the country. the percentage by which boris johnson won . by which boris johnson won. could you imagine nigel farage reaching 43% of the country? probably more than 24. more than more than rishi. but is his ceiling just too low? >> well , it ceiling just too low? >> well, it could be. you could see you know, there's discussions going on in the parliamentary conservative party about what whether to twist again . and i think there may again. and i think there may well be a confidence motion in sunak before christmas. i think that's at least a 50/50 chance. i very soon then he will probably survive that. but then if nigel comes back and gets to poll parity, say, for reform and the tories , i think the sort of the tories, i think the sort of jelly people on the tory back benches then, then get rid of him and there is a school of thought says let's thought that says let's parachute kemi parachute someone like kemi badenoch in, get to do five badenoch in, get her to do five big in five weeks and big things in five weeks and call an early. >> run out of a single. >> we've run out of a single. he's a single issue politician. he's a single issue politician. he's . he's going he's a single issue politician. hewant . he's going he's a single issue politician. hewant to . he's going he's a single issue politician. hewant to sit . he's going he's a single issue politician. hewant to sit for he's going he's a single issue politician. hewant to sit for he'syearsjoing he's a single issue politician. hewant to sit for he'syears onrg to want to sit for five years on the shadow is he right? to want to sit for five years on

the well, )w is he right? to want to sit for five years on the well, thank is he right? to want to sit for five years on the well, thank you is he right? to want to sit for five years on the well, thank you veryre right? to want to sit for five years on the well, thank you very muchrt? >> well, thank you very much indeed and indeed, matthew stadlen and patrick but martin patrick o'flynn. but martin daubney, have noticed at daubney, you may have noticed at home, suddenly appeared into home, has suddenly appeared into view, majestically appeared as you any you like to say here, any shuffling at all? >> no. no. >> no. no. >> toad like an elephant. yeah, right. it immigration? right. so. so is it immigration? do die day today for the do or die day today for the tories. we're going to cross to westminster about 4:30. james cleverly expected to dish out the latest details on on on salary caps immigration caps and rwanda in the studio in about 15 minutes, we'll have the red wall rock lee anderson will rock violin lee anderson will have to him. have put it to him. >> too little, too >> is this too little, too late? can saved ? and what can this be saved? and what starmer mad to mention thatcher. i he was. and would you i think he was. and would you would welcome nigel farage would you welcome nigel farage as the leader of the tories? i'm going to put it to him directly. >> fascinating. we're >> fascinating. and we're looking forward to that statement in the commons. thank you going to be punchy >> it's going to be a punchy show by the sounds of things. thank you for joining us. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather on . gb news. >> hi there . it's aidan mcgivern

>> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast following a very wintry weekend . for some of very wintry weekend. for some of us, it's a milder day today. cloudy for many outbreaks of rain, although it is staying cold in the far north, central and northern scotland. and then later for the rest of scotland, northern ireland sitting in the cold air. but across england and wales, southern scotland , we've wales, southern scotland, we've got of cloud cover got a lot of cloud cover outbreak of rain. rain, outbreak of rain. that rain, heavy persistent in places, heavy and persistent in places, could cause some issues with some flooded roads and so on. and it's slow to move away through the rest of the day. so it is going to stay grey and damp. now for northern ireland, central northern scotland, central and northern scotland, it's wintry it's a brighter with some wintry showers , mostly rain and sleet showers, mostly rain and sleet at levels. over at lower levels. snow over hills. and as showers hills. and as those showers continue the and as continue into the evening and as temperatures fall away, there's going to be some icy patches, especially for northern scotland. elsewhere we've got the rain continuing across southeast scotland, north—east england and for a while, central parts of the uk, although here, will ease by the end of the night. now temperatures will

stay up in the mid single figures where we've got the cloud and the rain, but it's going to be another cold night for central and northern scotland. parts northern scotland. parts of northern ireland as well, seeing temperatures ireland as well, seeing temperatu icy patches first and those icy patches first thing tuesday. but a bright start for much of scotland and northern ireland. just a few more flurries into the more wintry flurries into the far we've the far north. and we've got the cloud rain across eastern cloud and rain across eastern parts of england. south east scotland away through the scotland moving away through the day. brighter skies day. so brighter skies developing and the wind easing as well . as well. >> looks like things are heating up. box spoilers, sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> good afternoon. 3:00. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. welcome to the show. we're keeping you company for the next three hours. and by the way, merry top story today merry christmas. top story today , immigration clampdown is today. do or die for the conservatives will cross live later in the show for james cleverly speech on rwanda salary caps immigration caps will be asking the big question is this enough to save the tories from what looks like certain defeat at the next general election? and on that point in the studio, in about 15 minutes, we'll have lee anderson , the red wall lee anderson, the red wall rottweiler . i'll lee anderson, the red wall rottweiler. i'll ask him, is this enough to save the tories? what can be done about immigration? whilst keir starmer

bonkers to mention maggie