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gb news and a very, very good evening at 7:00, it's farage here on gb news. >> with me, richard tice. at a time when the rumours are abuzz in westminster here that the immigration minister robert jenrick, may have resigned or be resigning almost as we speak, full on show , we may pick up full on show, we may pick up that if it's confirmed and suella bravermans blast to the prime minister in the house of commons this afternoon about rwanda . talking of a blast. rwanda. talking of a blast. goodness me , i'm not sure boris goodness me, i'm not sure boris had a blast at the covid inquiry at the hands of the kc. i've got some serious , serious questions some serious, serious questions to ask about that inquiry, about that kc and later on, we have a real treat for you folks. yes. katie price , who's been on i'm katie price, who's been on i'm a celebrity, not once, but twice. do you like the way i did that?
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she will be with us in the show to give a little bit of advice to give a little bit of advice to nigel. so much more. don't go anywhere. but first of all, it's the news with polly middlehurst . the news with polly middlehurst. >> thanks very much, richard. well, the top story tonight, the home secretary has been speaking about emergency legislation to process less illegal migrants in rwanda , saying it will prevent rwanda, saying it will prevent further legal challenges through the courts . speaking in the the courts. speaking in the commons within the last hour, james cleverly insisted that rwanda is a safe country to process uk migrants inside and that uk legislate works alongside other government measures to end illegal migration. ian meanwhile, some uk newspapers are reporting the immigration minister robert jenrick may have resigned. you'll have heard richard tice referring to that short time ago. that isn't confirmed. but he was noticeably absent from james cleverly statement on
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rwanda. we'll keep an eye on events on that one for you and bnng events on that one for you and bring up to date with exactly what happens one way or the other when it does happen. mr cleverly, though , the commons cleverly, though, in the commons today saying there was no today also saying there was no risk migrants ever be risk that migrants could ever be returned their countries of returned to their countries of origin rwanda as a result origin from rwanda as a result of the legislation .andthe new of the legislation .and the new treaty today meant and the pubuc treaty today meant and the public alike support the rwanda plan . plan. >> other countries have since copied our plans with rwanda, and we know from interviews that the prospect of being relocated out of the uk has already had a deterrent effect. this will be considerably magnify died when we get those flights to rwanda. this treaty and this new bill will help to make that a reality i >> -- >> well, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , secretary, yvette cooper, reacted to the plan, saying nothing really has changed. >> the prime minister has just met with his backbenchers and the official briefing from that
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meeting says he's told mps that they've gone as far as possible , they've gone as far as possible, but rwanda did not want to be part of anything that broke or disapplied international law . disapplied international law. the statement from the rwandan government, without lawful behaviour from the uk, rwanda, would not be able to continue with the migration and economic development partnership if you could not make this up as well. >> as the government presses ahead with its plan to stop the boats is the former home secretary weighed into the argument, warning the conservative party faced electoral oblivion if it introduced a bill on migration that was destined to failure . that was destined to failure. >> the conservative party faces electoral oblivion in a matter of months. if we introduce yet another bill destined to fail . another bill destined to fail. do we fight for sovereignty or do we let our party die ? now,
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do we let our party die? now, i may not have always found the right words in the past, madam deputy speaker, but i refuse . deputy speaker, but i refuse. and i refuse to sit by and allow us to fail . us to fail. >> well, also in the news today, bofis >> well, also in the news today, boris johnson admitted mistakes had been made during the pandemic under his watch. and a warning, if you're watching on television, there are flashing images. coming up, the former prime minister was speaking at the covid inquiry and he was saying things could have been done differently. and he took full responsibility for the government's decisions at the time. he apologised for the suffering he suffering cause, saying he should have twigged much sooner when the pandemic took hold in italy in february 2020. now a man has been charged with the attempted murder of a pregnant woman in south wales. the 29 year old was stabbed in aberavon yesterday. she's since been discharged from hospital. daniel popescu, who is also believed to have known the victim, will appearin have known the victim, will appear in court charged with stalking and witness
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intimidation as well . us stalking and witness intimidation as well. us gb stalking and witness intimidation as well . us gb news intimidation as well. us gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel. news this is britain's news channel . three. channel. three. >> thank you, polly , and welcome >> thank you, polly, and welcome to farage here on gb news. it has been yet another extraordinary day in the world of current affairs and westminster politics. first of all, we've had the former prime minister, if you remember back to the days of boris johnson. he's been answering questions at the very , very, very long the very, very, very long running covid inquiries, really only just started. we've got years to go , but we've had the years to go, but we've had the first day of a two day examination done by boris johnson of boris johnson of his decisions and quite extraordinary really what happened, because as the barrister, one hugo keith, he seems to be adopting the
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attitude and not of what you might expect from a inquisitive king's counsel, but more a sort of juvenile robert peston type journalist type approach. yes, it's all about the attitudes and the personalities and the gotcha question and who said what and what was the tone of this text or this whatsapp messages? even though he said that wasn't what he wanted to do, it's frankly all he focussed on. let me just remind you that this inquiry has got some terms of reference . a got some terms of reference. a key one is that it should produce reports and recommendations in a timely manner . recommendations in a timely manner. well, one year into about five years. so on that bafis about five years. so on that basis it fails . the second key basis it fails. the second key objective is that it should take reasonable account with regard to relevant international comparisons. and given that the main question is all about lockdowns, was it too late? was
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it too soon, and should we have doneit it too soon, and should we have done it at all? the relevant comparison is, of course, sweden . no reference whatsoever either by the barrister . so it seems to by the barrister. so it seems to me it fails on that. he's just after gotcha moments. never has he asked the prime minister. yet in one day's evidence as prime minister, what lessons should we learn from this case and the barrister took the view that the scientific advice in january late january, was so robust and so perfectly accurate that it was unquestionable , completely was unquestionable, completely ignonng was unquestionable, completely ignoring the fact that throughout february and march, the scientific advice changed more times than you and i probably had hot dinners. i mean, let's just look at a couple of bits of them. the data evolved. first of all, we heard from the scientist that we weren't going to lock down. do you remember when they talked
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about that about herd immunity? maybe that was strategy. do was going to be the strategy. do you remember whether we talked about flattening the curve? should have lockdown? would about flattening the curve? shouitoo have lockdown? would about flattening the curve? shouitoo soon?! lockdown? would about flattening the curve? shouitoo soon? all.ockdown? would about flattening the curve? shouitoo soon? all of (down? would about flattening the curve? shouitoo soon? all of this n? would it be too soon? all of this stuff was evolving . do you stuff was evolving. do you remember when the scientific advice, unbelievably, this was scientific sage advice, not to ban the events at cheltenham racecourse or liverpool playing football at anfield. that was scientific advice . so the scientific advice. so the barrister who assumed that the advice from the end of january from the scientists was perfect is complete , wholly and utterly is complete, wholly and utterly wrong. not to mention the other advice about masks. dame jenny harris damehood no less . first harris damehood no less. first of all, the advice was that masks wouldn't be needed, didn't work. and then later on, not sure. and then later on, let's put the fear of god into you by forcing us all to wear masks with no evidence whatsoever that actually they work. so the scientific advice kept changing,
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which means that actually for anybody in a position of leadership like the prime minister his job was never going to be easy. of course he was going to make mistakes as he accepted today . my issue with accepted today. my issue with all of them is they didn't tell us at the time , um, that they us at the time, um, that they were going to make mistakes. they didn't manage that expectation of us, the general public. they took a different approach, which was just to terrify everybody and say, we've got the best science, we're making the right decisions at the right time. and now we know the right time. and now we know the science was all over the place . extraordinary the other place. extraordinary the other strange thing about this is that the barrister hasn't asked what prime minister did you seek advice from a range of different views . i come from the world of views. i come from the world of business. that's what you would do with a really important issue like this. they didn't. they had one line of advice that the barrister completely wrongly and i'm going to prove it shortly in
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this programme , he said. the this programme, he said. the advice was perfect, but even the advice, the evidence today that the barrister was using, i've got three separate elements that the barristers data with all his teams around him and his analysts and his evidence and paperwork and time he's got wrong . i'm absolutely wrong. i'm absolutely extraordinary in my view . if the extraordinary in my view. if the barrister can't be trusted to get the detail right now , now, get the detail right now, now, frankly, he's not fit for purpose and maybe that actually means the whole inquiry is not fit for purpose . if the main fit for purpose. if the main bloke who's running the thing can't get the evidence right . so can't get the evidence right. so my question to you folks, this inquiry , it's already cost £100 inquiry, it's already cost £100 million. it'll be another 100 million. it'll be another 100 million at least, if not another 150 million. so quarter of £1 billion, five years. i'm done
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with it. i've read the swedish inquiry result produced a year and a half ago. my recommendation is we just read that and adopt it because they ran it. the whole covid process a lot better than we did. learn the lessons from that and frankly move on. so my question folks, this inquiry, should we just scrap it or should we just fire the barrister who's running it ? you know the email me farage it? you know the email me farage at gbnews.com or tweet using the hashtag farage on gb news. i want your views of course. delighted to be joined down the line. first guest of the show by one nigel nelson gb news senior political commentator , a man who political commentator, a man who knows a thing or two. nigel a very good evening to you. a busy evening. so much to talk about. but firstly, the covid inquiry. i'm sure you enjoyed the barrister grilling the former prime minister. what were your thoughts? am i right about this or do you think actually the
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barrister is doing a good job and he's focusing on the process 7 and he's focusing on the process ? yes. and the science ? ? yes. and the science? >> well, yes. i mean that some of your characterisation in there is not, i don't think quite right. i mean, for instance, you're, you are quite right in the early days we were talking about herd immunity. obe patrick vallance, the chief scientific officer, was on the radio speaking about that very thing . well, what came out at thing. well, what came out at the inquiry today was an agreement between hugo keith and bofis agreement between hugo keith and boris johnson that herd immunity certainly didn't work that by july of 2020, only about 6 to 7% of people had antibodies. so therefore it had been infected . therefore it had been infected. so herd immunity wasn't the answer. so, yes, you're right. the science did keep changing . the science did keep changing. i'm not sure it had been terribly helpful to us all for the scientists to have come forward and said actually, we don't know what we're doing, but clearly they didn't know what they doing and what the they were doing and what the covid inquiry is about is see if
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you can improve that process in case of a future pandemic. >> we've had a day of a two day evidence session from the former prime minister, not once that i heard has the barrister said to the former prime minister, what lessons have you learned upon lots of time to reflect on it. surely that's part of the process . pi'ocess. >> process. >> yeah, and i thought that that's actually what boris johnson did. that was i was quite impressed with the evidence that boris johnson gave. unlike other former ministers and ministers who've been before the inquiry , some of been before the inquiry, some of the aides, like dominic cummings , boris johnson, avoided blaming others for the mistakes that have been made. but he did accept that mistakes had been made . and so what we've got from made. and so what we've got from on day one is sort of the lead up, if you like, to that first lockdown and how the decision or decision were made . and it's decision were made. and it's that kind of process that the inquiry needs to actually establish and look into for its
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report. again to it's the inquiry that will learn the lessons from this and say right, this is the blueprint for future pandemics . pandemics. >> nigel, stay with you. we're going to come back to you. we may if this news is confirmed, i want to come back to you later with regard to robert jenrick, who we think is in the process of resigning, i'm going to turn now to my studio guest, molly kingsley from us for them. thank you for joining kingsley from us for them. thank you forjoining me in kingsley from us for them. thank you for joining me in the studio. so you obviously have been inquiry very been following this inquiry very closely. i know. what are your thoughts about the barrister's performance today ? has he performance today? has he extracted useful information from boris johnson and has he been accurate in the information that he's put forward? some of the key things that he talked about? >> no. i mean, i think i'm really concerned. >> i mean, it's not the first time i've said it. i'm sure it won't be the last. i'm really concerned after hearing today. so like you, richard, i think a disproportionate amount of time one day out of only two days
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with this key witness was spent examining in absolute minutiae that, you know, almost hour by hour of the weeks leading up to that first lockdown decision. incredibly, though , the kc and incredibly, though, the kc and the inquiry are not examining whether lockdown was the right decision. they are not examining whether lockdown and the other interventions worked. they're not examining whether the benefits outweighed harms . benefits outweighed harms. there's no real evaluation. >> there was one brief question from the chair , but i think to from the chair, but i think to bofis from the chair, but i think to boris johnson saying did you consider whether to lock down at all? and he said briefly and then it. and that's as then ditched it. and that's as far concerned. far as i'm concerned. >> that's and he said he >> that's it. and he said he dismissed actually, dismissed it. and actually, that's a shame because seem that's a shame because we seem to know other that to know from other evidence that johnson's to johnson's instincts on that to be, you know, deeply, deeply nervous monumental nervous about this monumental lockdown were lockdown decision were right. >> barrister quoted >> and the barrister quoted a mortality figure that i nearly fell over when he talked about 2. >> yeah. 2.- >> yeah. so 2. >> yeah. so there were a number of errors today. so and some of them very basic stuff. so you're right, he quoted a 2% mortality figure at beginning of figure right at the beginning of
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the hearing, actually just fundamentally it's fundamentally wrong. it's fundamentally wrong. it's fundamentally it's fundamentally wrong and it's wrong a factor of ten. wrong by about a factor of ten. so the actual infection fatality rate is something between 0.1 and 0.5, but it for under 60s it's much, much less probably ten times lower than that. >> he might have been referring to at that time back in february, march. but even then i don't think anybody was talking about more than 1. the world health organisation was, but that was that was quite quickly . that was that was quite quickly. >> stand. >> stand. >> just stand by one second. molly because i think we're going to go to polly middleton first to confirm the position with the immigration with regard to the immigration minister . minister. >> indeed. thank you. we do have breaking news confirming that robert jenrick the immigration minister has resigned from his role. the home secretary made the announcement in the house of commons a short time ago, confirming the rumours that had been circulating and indeed chatted about on social media through various media outlets. mr jenrick has sensationally resigned just after the rwanda
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bill was published today. he's beenin bill was published today. he's been in role since october, but this no doubt prompting much controversy in westminster confirmation in the last few minutes officially that robert jenrick has resigned as immigration minister. >> thank you for that, polly. nigel is still with us. nigel nelson, your thoughts, just very briefly on that massively significant resignation. nigel that the tory party is in the middle of a civil war between right and left and rwanda is now come to symbolise that civil war? >> robert jenrick appears to resign because we're not planning to leave the european convention on human rights is, of course, the other side of the party, the one nation group, the moderates . they'd be pretty moderates. they'd be pretty furious if we were . and now furious if we were. and now we're being lectured by rwanda on human rights, and they're saying they'll pull out of the dealif saying they'll pull out of the deal if we don't obey international law. so this is one big mess . one big mess. >> it absolutely is. i think the
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bloke in the middle is one prime minister and he doesn't know which way to turn. does he turn right or does he turn left? who knows? nigel thank you very much. coming back to much. we'll be coming back to review that later in the show review that later on in the show with other guests. but first up, we're to stay with the we're going to stay with the covid after break. covid inquiry after the break. we've we've we've got molly kingsley. we've also got jamie proved also got jamie jenkins proved thing this thing that actually this barrister again, barrister was wrong. again, unbelievable . it's farage. it's
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radio. >> welcome back to farage. so my audience questioned the inquiry. have you had enough of it? should we just scrap it? chris says yes, scrap. it's a monument . total waste of money. richard says the barrister doesn't understand the correct process. the sweden model worked and must be adapted for future similar events and the stupid inquiry should be shut down brackets. let's save £100 million. plus, another viewer says the idea of another viewer says the idea of an inquiry is a good one, but
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only if the terms of reference widening expanse to encompass all the relevant elements, the elements that drove the decisions. well, i've just read out some of the terms and they've already frankly failed them. everybody's pretty them. i think everybody's pretty clear on that. well, i'm delighted to be joined down the line by my first guest in this segment, sir anthony seldon, who of course is the author of boris johnson biography johnson at ten that i have bought and also read sir anthony a very good evening to you. thanks for being with us. another monumental day. i don't know how much of the inquiry you were able to catch up with, but from what you heard , how much does that encapsulate what your understanding of the operation going on inside number 10 at the time ? well i think you 10 at the time? well i think you have a former prime minister >> you're trying to put the best possible construct on what he did. i mean , look, he did some did. i mean, look, he did some things well , did. i mean, look, he did some things well, like, for did. i mean, look, he did some
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things well , like, for example, things well, like, for example, pushing for the vaccines. it wasn't all black. but i don't think he provided the steady leadership that the nation needed at that time. we keep talking, don't we, about covid being unprecedented . i mean, being unprecedented. i mean, that's just not true . no, that's just not true. no, everyone's forgotten. the second world war. the second world war was a much bigger crisis that went on for over six years and threatened the very survival of this country. and the prime minister of the day, winston churchill, managed to master the scientific data, managed to provide consistent direction . provide consistent direction. >> sir anthony my concern about the tone of this inquiry, it's too much around gotcha personalities and not enough about why were the decisions made and what lessons should be learned. yeah i completely agree with that . with that. >> i mean, look, this country, this is a terrible truth. the country is now less well
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prepared at the end of 2023 than we were at the end of 2019, four years on, we have gone backwards 0.1. point two, there will be another epidemic. the question is not whether, but when , when is not whether, but when, when and 0.3. therefore the main purpose of this inquiry is very quickly to find out what we did wrong. i think blame really isn't particularly helpful. what did we do wrong and what are we going to get right to protect the nation? the primary job of the nation? the primary job of the prime minister is to protect the prime minister is to protect the nation. i mean, that's what the nation. i mean, that's what the job ultimately is all about. absolutely right. >> sir anthony, thank you so much for that. i'm afraid much indeed for that. i'm afraid you've depressed me saying you've just depressed me saying that worse prepared now that we're worse prepared now than back in that is sir than back in 2019. that is sir anthony seldon. he understands a thing or two about the way that number operates under number 10 operates under different prime ministers. now, my next guest actually has got the evidence to prove that once again, the barrister today was
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wrong. just take a look at this clip from today. >> the evidence before me, lady, is that the united kingdom had one of the highest rates of excess death in in europe. all most all other western european countries had a lower level of excess death. >> i've seen italy was tragically in a worse position than the united kingdom. you must . i do not than the united kingdom. you must. i do not wish to contradict you, mr keith, but the evidence, the ons data. i saw put us, i think, about 16 or 19th in a table of 33 in western europe . europe. >> we were one of the worst off. if not the second worst off. >> that is a barrister with a deliberate agenda to make us look absolute like the second worst nation in western europe. i'm delighted to be joined by one jamie jenkins, former statistician at the office of national statistics , who knows a
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national statistics, who knows a thing or two who i spoke to today to ask to get to look at this data. jamie, a very good evening. you've heard this from the barrister, but i think you've got a couple of key sudes you've got a couple of key slides that prove he's completely wrong. jamie yeah, good evening, richard. >> so i think it all depends kind of what time periods you're looking at and so and boris looking at and so if and boris and the kc in part are both saying stuff that could be corroborated as correct. so, so the first numbers, if you look at the first wave of the pandemic, which probably you're talking weeks , ten talking about weeks, ten to weeks, richard, of 2020 now weeks, 26, richard, of 2020 now england and wales, we use the ons data, similar situations in scotland. we did have one of the highest excess deaths across. i think we've got a slide to show it. >> hopefully that'll come up as you're speaking. jamie there it is. >> yeah. and you can see we're only second to spain. that's the bar there. >> second to spain, italy , >> second to spain, not italy, as the barrister said. yeah. >> second to spain. yeah. so there's a factual thing there's a bit of a factual thing there. second to spain you there. second to spain and you can sweden, there as there. second to spain and you can which sweden, there as there. second to spain and you can which issweden, there as there. second to spain and you can which is on den, there as there. second to spain and you can which is on about1ere as there. second to spain and you can which is on about 20%as well, which is on about 20% excess. but you've got countries
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like austria, like germany, austria, netherlands all lower netherlands, france all lower than the uk and lower than so jamie, that's the first wave. >> and for those who are listening on the radio, this is a graph of about about a dozen western nations ons and it shows that sweden was fifth, despite the fact it didn't lock down. we were second. but to spain, not italy. what was the second graph you've got there? over the longer period? >> jamie yeah, so if we look at the second chart, what it does then is you can't just focus on then is you can't just focus on the first wave of the pandemic. you've got to look a bit further more broadly. and this looks at the now out the the excess deaths now out to the end so this encompasses end of 2022. so this encompasses those waves, those third those second waves, those third waves. countries like waves. so some countries like england wales might had england and wales might have had a poor first wave and that could be to kind of the care be down to the kind of the care home discharge be home discharge that might be a big factor that. but if you big factor in that. but if you take the run, then, richard, look 2020 to 2022. you look at the 2020 to 2022. you can see now england and wales falls down the rankings. so it's no the second worst. and no longer the second worst. and sweden falls dramatically
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around. and this is only looking at western europe and i think where boris today, richard was saying that you could see us about to 19 in a ranking of about 16 to 19 in a ranking of europe. this doesn't include eastern europe on this chart. >> no, that's right. that's just western that's right, western europe. that's right, jamie. a great graph jamie. but it's a great graph and it shows the uk will just hopefully back up hopefully get that graph back up if please shows uk if possible. please shows the uk was worst a dozen, was fifth worst out of a dozen, but sweden, sweden that didn't lock down its three year excess death. the second second least worse. i nearly said second best. it was all bad, but the second least worth jamie , thank second least worth jamie, thank you so much for that information. that's really, really valuable. we're a bit pushed for time, but is pushed for time, but that is jamie jenkins, former statistician the for statistician for the office for national statistics . molly, national statistics. molly, final words . there's the final words. there's the evidence that the barrister got it significantly wrong again today. >> yeah , i mean, they're making >> yeah, i mean, they're making really serious errors as they're also starting from a fundamentally flawed assumption thatis fundamentally flawed assumption that is lockdowns work. >> he actually said that hugo keith today said on the premise that the lockdown on the 23rd of
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march was necessary. how could it be could it have been imposed even we know even earlier? now we know lockdowns not work. we just lockdowns do not work. we just saw the graph with sweden. second not second least bad who did not have lockdown. i think have mandatory lockdown. i think more holistically there are a load of questions this load of questions that this inquiry should be asking and isn't. there's questions isn't. so there's questions around substance of the around the substance of the interventions . did work? interventions. did they work? there around the there is questions around the lab leak theory. the inquiry has just said that's off table. just said that's off the table. >> that's i think that's >> i think that's i think that's a whole separate inquiry. but as well, one. well, it should be this one. >> mean, can we possibly >> i mean, how can we possibly have an inquiry on covid without getting into censorship, without getting into the propaganda campaign? just campaign? you know, we've just spent, richard, spent, you know, richard, six months researching and writing a very detailed expose. >> so and you've literally this is just out now. >> yeah, it's just out now. >> yeah, it's just out now. >> flash up at screen. i >> flash it up at screen. i don't know if you can see that. it's accountability it's the accountability deficit and forensically and it's a forensically lawyer researched expose of really i'm not sure if that's a sort of is that a christmas stocking gift or is it? >> it really is. it's certainly for anyone that has followed this as intensely as i know many
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of your viewers have done. of your viewers will have done. >> is. and it gets to >> it really is. and it gets to questions that the covid inquiry isn't give you one example. how many viewers know that many of your viewers know that there an ethics committee many of your viewers know that thereit an ethics committee many of your viewers know that thereit looks ethics committee many of your viewers know that thereit looks likeics committee many of your viewers know that thereit looks like was ommittee that it looks like was deliberately then deliberately silenced and then shut down by government when it started giving its convenience? >> to be a fantastic >> it's going to be a fantastic read. >> i'm going to read it over the christmas break. get your christmas break. get it in your christmas break. get it in your christmas want. christmas stocking if you want. hopefully. might sign hopefully. molly might even sign a copy me. who knows? molly, a copy for me. who knows? molly, thank for coming in. thank you so much for coming in. fantastic see you. will fantastic to see you. we will keep abreast of all of that coming up, of course, first of all, you voted for all, make sure you voted for nigel. every single nigel. he needs every single vote. we're vote. after the break, we're going talking about suella going to be talking about suella speech house commons speech in the house of commons today and this latest resignation. that.
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nigel. he needs every single vote he's under pressure. he could leave at any single moment. so we need your vote. thatis moment. so we need your vote. that is for sure. so now talking of votes, people gaining votes or losing them, just take a look at the former home secretary in the house of commons today with a little bit of a blast from my time as home secretary. >> i can say that the same human rights framework is producing insanities that the public would scarcely believe foreign terrorists . we can't deport terrorists. we can't deport because of their human rights. terrorists we have to let back in because of their human rights. s foreign rapists and paedophiles who should have been removed but are released back into the community only to re—offend . yeah, because of re—offend. yeah, because of their human rights, the conservative party faces electoral oblivion in a matter of months . if we introduce yet of months. if we introduce yet another bill destined to fail .
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another bill destined to fail. >> i don't know about you folks . >> i don't know about you folks. that makes me fuming with anger that the human rights of the rapists and the murderers appears to override the human rights of us taxpayers , rights of us taxpayers, hardworking british citizens as well. let's go to my next guest, david campbell—bannerman, former conservative mep and a i think you're running the grass roots conservative organisation. you can have quite a lot to do. david. very good evening. so so what do you think? i mean that blast from suella braverman about what goes on in the home office that frankly, we weren't aware of is deeply shocking and fury making me. >> well, it is, richard. i think we all agree on that . i mean, we all agree on that. i mean, it's it really is genuinely shocking what she's exposed in her. i thought a very well—judged speech . and, you well—judged speech. and, you know, it is true what she says, that unless we regain sovereignty, then we'll get
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annihilated. the conservative party get inaya . it might be party get inaya. it might be quite good for reform. i know, but it's very, very serious. but yeah, these are really shocking examples of where we lost control, where human rights just trumps the, you know, the rights of ordinary citizens and puts their lives at risk from terrorists and criminals and a whole , you know, other crowd of whole, you know, other crowd of people. so the situation is very serious. and i'm not surprised we've got a resignation tonight in robert jenrick. >> well, let's just touch on that. so robert jenrick resigned. it's not totally clear yet. i haven't seen the letter , yet. i haven't seen the letter, but that may be just out as i'm on air as to whether he's resigned over concerns about the latest rwanda aid bill latest published rwanda aid bill or the unspoken in her speech. because she didn't refer to the mass immigration coming here legally, that that essentially happened on on the conservative government's watch . government's watch. >> yeah, she was focusing on illegal immigration mostly today. you're right . i've
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illegal immigration mostly today. you're right. i've only just seen the letter, actually. and the thrust of it is that he was annoyed about the prime minister. apparently not opting out of the echr side of things. just a human rights act, as far as i can read. it's very early days. um and as a result of that, he's resigned . so you've that, he's resigned. so you've got on the front page of the bill all about, you know, this doesn't actually comply or may not comply with echr well, that's not enough obviously for robert jenrick and i think it's a principle resignation and it's very, very serious for sunak. >> can he survive sunak or is he in as rumours today about letters going in to the to the chairman of the 1922 committee? i mean, it's just like it's like coming it's sort of groundhog day all over again. does this happen every 6 or 12 months? david what's going on? >> well, i know is >> well, i know it is extraordinary. it would be the fourth a year, but fourth leader in a year, but i would welcome it, to be honest. i'm afraid i don't think he's
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enjoying himself . if it's enjoying himself. if it's desperate measures, we're 20% behind in the polls. desperate measures, we're 20% behind in the polls . a lot of behind in the polls. a lot of our members are conservative democratic organisation members, even they are questioning whether they can support the conservative lives or go off to reform as i say, you'll be glad to hear. but. but no, it's a desperate situation and i don't think sunak will survive it, to be honest. i think they will. >> david i. it can't be right for the country to have another unelected prime minister. in my view. i suspect we could be heading to a general election in the spring, not next autumn. david time is against us. so much going on. i really appreciate on with appreciate you coming on with your that's your thoughts there. that's david campbell—bannerman in the studio, christys studio, one patrick christys with other extraordinary studio, one patrick christys with you'veher extraordinary studio, one patrick christys with you've gotextraordinary studio, one patrick christys with you've got atraordinary studio, one patrick christys with you've got a breakingy news. you've got a breaking story on, think. yeah, absolutely. >> it's a massive exclusive. the timing could not be timing of this could not be better. dispatched better. we dispatched mark white, our home security editor to calais, and what we will reveal between 9 and 11:00 tonight on patrick christys tonight blows the lid off rishi sunak's anything sunak's claims that anything
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whatsoever ever that he's done has deterred the numbers of people. >> i think we may have a brief clip just to sort of tease into it. >> mentioned rwanda and the people here in the camps just laugh. it's become a bit of a joke. the threat hasn't put them off no one here thinks off because no one here thinks for a second they're heading back if they make it back to rwanda. if they make it to yeah, exactly. so the numbers >> yeah, exactly. so the numbers of people waiting to cross the channel are as channel are are as bad as they've ever been. what yeah, as bad they've ever been. rwanda bad as they've ever been. rwanda is the butt of the joke for migrants. and we also reveal the tactics that human traffickers are using now that the french say despite all the money we're sending to them, there is nothing they can do about. so for all this hoo ha today about rwanda , it doesn't matter rwanda, it doesn't matter because nothing's working anyway. >> so it's completely irrelevant. the government thinks it's relevant, but actually it's the butt of a bunch of jokes on the french coast. by the migrants. >> a lot of this tonight , 9 to >> a lot of this tonight, 9 to 11 pm. on my show. patrick christie's tonight. and frankly,
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it beggars belief. >> it beggars belief, patrick, thatis >> it beggars belief, patrick, that is going to be exciting to watch. you very much watch. thank you very much indeed. up the indeed. coming up after the break, mean, just such break, i mean, that is just such shocking but we've got to shocking news. but we've got to talk about nigel. we've got to keep him in jungle. mean, keep him in the jungle. i mean, we back, but we need we want him back, but we need him win we have got him to win first. we have got adam cherry down on the gold coast and the one and only twice contestant go
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welcome back, my friends , to welcome back, my friends, to farage for the last segment. it's been full on. we've been talking about the covid inquiry we've got resignations going on. we've got resignations going on. we've got resignations going on. we've got the former home secretary. she's been putting her pennies worth in the house secretary. she's been putting hecommons.vorth in the house secretary. she's been putting he commons. and, in the house secretary. she's been putting hecommons. and, of the house secretary. she's been putting he commons. and, of course,ise secretary. she's been putting he commons. and, of course, we of commons. and, of course, we need worth need to know the penny's worth down in the down of the gold coast down under where our gb news reporter adam cherry is. you know, he's he's got a tough time, hasn't he? does anybody feel sorry for him? i'm not sure
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i do. adam, you're having a great time. you're looking fantastic. hope you've washed fantastic. i hope you've washed that t shirt. you always seem to be it. anyway so, look, be wearing it. anyway so, look, nigel is still there. he's making progress. what's the latest ? we heard a little bit of latest? we heard a little bit of a little of singing last a little bit of singing last night, didn't we? >> we did, richard. yes, i can. i've got several of these, so don't worry. this is perfectly hygienic. the vote remain campaign is a hygienic campaign. it's all kicking off, isn't it? so fred sirieix leaves the jungle. i've told robert jenrick has left government. but the good news is not robert . has left government. but the good news is not robert. nigel is still in there. so the vote remain campaign and it's hygienic. wash t shirts continues to be used. yeah, you're right. last night we did have some singing. this is what happens when you separate nigel farage from his from his pine for about three and a half weeks. so the jungle arms swung open its doors as nigel had a couple. and. and we had some karaoke action. i must warn you, this clip is something to behold. so take a look at this.
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this is what happened last night in on in the karaoke . in on in the karaoke. >> i'm too sexy for by now. >> i'm too sexy for by now. >> too sexy for my love. love's going to leave me. >> we were all so given the delight of nigel farage. too i'm sexy for my shirt. sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt. >> so sexy it hurts . i do know >> so sexy it hurts. i do know the fairbrass brothers that produce that hit. you know too i'm sexy for my shirt. you've got to get your shirt . got to get your shirt. off >> look , i hope the daily mirror >> look, i hope the daily mirror was watching that because they just ran that splash , didn't just ran that splash, didn't they? saying nigel's too boring. they can't find itv, can't find any footage. i don't necessarily know what that was, but i wouldn't describe it as boring . wouldn't describe it as boring. richard it was definitely something . we're just a couple
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something. we're just a couple of hours away from the next eviction. always , we've got eviction. as always, we've got the qr code. you can scan on. you can use the app, vote on your phone. it's vote remain. let's let's keep this party going. >> absolutely right. adam there's nothing boring about that. i think it's fair to say that. i think it's fair to say that nigel's voice sounded a little bit hoarse . whether little bit hoarse. whether that's not his singing voice or whether that's the effect of what he's been eating for the last of weeks or maybe last couple of weeks or maybe just lack of a lack of clarity just a lack of a lack of clarity or a lack of beer. i'm not quite sure, but i'm not sure he's going to he's going to win going to be he's going to win any singing competitions. are you . you. >> i doubt it, richard . i very >> i doubt it, richard. i very much doubt it. but you never know. >> fantastic. adam keep up the great work down there. thank you very much. keep us well informed . keep the clean t shirts coming on as well. so much going on there. know, nigel singing, there. you know, nigel singing, dancing around without his shirt on. well, at least we saw the front of him opposed to the front of him as opposed to the back of him being revealed earlier anyway, earlier on. but anyway, delighted by next and final delighted by my next and final guest on the show, of course,
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the glamour model twice contestant in i'm a celebrity. katie price. a very good evening, katie. great to have you on the show. really appreciate it. does it take you back ? are you jealous that, you back? are you jealous that, you know you're not there for a third time ? third time? >> i think it's amazing. >> i think it's amazing. >> i'm really enjoying this show this year , getting back into the this year, getting back into the australian jungle. i think they've had a great line up and i'm absolutely loving it this yeah i'm absolutely loving it this year. absolutely fantastic. >> so but how tough is it? i'm particularly sort of focussed on the border element of it. you know, we sort of we see the clips of it , know, we sort of we see the clips of it, but then you've got another 23 hours of the day to fill . with. fill. with. >> that's exactly it. people don't realise that. i always get asked , do you really starve in asked, do you really starve in there ? is it really as hard? do there? is it really as hard? do you go undercover at night ? are you go undercover at night? are your clothes really wet? you know, after you wet them or is
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there luxuries? i promise you there luxuries? i promise you there are no luxuries in there . there are no luxuries in there. if you don't get stars , you if you don't get stars, you really do starve. and it really is rice and beans . when it's is rice and beans. when it's cold, wet and damp, it's really not nice. you really are in the middle of the jungle. there and it's probably worse than how it looks. but it's amazing how you can just sit there and it's when i say boredom, that's when i think you start thinking about things, thinking about yourself, because that is literally nothing to do. you end up listening to the insects thinking, oh, i think it's going to be dinner time soon as you get in tune with the nature around you. it's such a unique situation to be in and i always say if anyone can do it and gets the opportunity, that is definitely the show to do. >> yeah, but my problem, katie, is absolutely loathe snakes , is absolutely loathe snakes, thatis is absolutely loathe snakes, that is sure. so it'd be a that is for sure. so it'd be a real problem for me. but i'm very interested in this sort of this boredom bit and you know, nigel, mean, had nigel, i mean, he's never had that much on his own. we've that much time on his own. we've heard a bit from him, but we, we think actually itv have cut
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think that actually itv have cut out the most interest ing out two of the most interest ing discussions about donald trump and the like , which sort of and the like, which sort of surprises us. we have thought they want to spice it up a bit more. you had the daily mirror saying that nigel was boring, which is a bit rich. well, actually, when i was in it, the guy, mike reid, you know, the he was a radio presenter. >> he was so, so entertaining in there. and he was like the first to get voted off. and we were all like, how can he be the first voted off? he's really entertaining. so a lot of it is editing, i think, and i do think a lot of the editing can be swayed you choose or who swayed by who you choose or who they want to sway to win . um, they want to sway to win. um, and i've met nigel a few times. he's interviewed me. i like nigel. um, you know, the politics side i stay out of as a person an i've got no problem with him and i like him and what people have got to remember, when you are in that jungle, it shouldn't matter what you do for a living. you're all in there
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together, surviving all stripped back and think it's a way to actually get to know a person. yeah, you can be judged by what you do, this and that. but he's still a human being at the end of the day. and you're all in this unique situation, so everyone deserves a chance. >> that you can, but if >> and not that you can, but if you could give him some advice in to try make sure you could give him some advice in he to try make sure you could give him some advice in he getsy make sure you could give him some advice in he gets to make sure you could give him some advice in he gets to the make sure you could give him some advice in he gets to the final sure you could give him some advice in he gets to the final ands that he gets to the final and wins, what would your advice be to him now, given you've to him now, given what you've seen so far? katie seen and heard so far? katie well, i'm honest, watching well, if i'm honest, watching it, little smirk. it, i love his little smirk. >> survived three. um, >> he has survived three. um, you know, three evictions or whatever you want to call them. like he's in there and he's smiling. so if he was hated that much, he would have been out first. so whatever he's doing is right. um, support him. probably survive tonight as well . who survive tonight as well. who knows? he could get through to the final two. so who knows? people obviously like watching. yeah why not support nigel for the final ? the final? >> so, katie, just to be clear, you are backing nigel all the way . way. >> i like nigel, and i will back
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him all the way. and if you want to know my three people in the final, it could be nigel. i think josie and sam and maybe tony. but yeah, if nigel hasn't been voted out already, he's on his way to being the final. >> oh, that'd be absolutely fantastic. and if they asked you to come back for a third time, i don't know if that's ever happened before. katie, would you do it again? or is twice enough? >> third lucky ? >> third time lucky? >> third time lucky? >> yeah. i would never turn it down. >> i would never turn it down. it's such a unique experience . it's such a unique experience. um, just everything about it. i would never turn that show down. i think it's amazing. >> all right, katie, thank you so much. indeed for your thoughts. you heard it there first from someone who's already done twice, folks. katie done it twice, folks. katie wouldn't around. she's wouldn't turn it around. she's backing thinks he's got backing nigel, thinks he's got every prospect of winning. i have say, think i would have to say, i think i would turn down. not good with turn it down. not very good with reptiles. here we are. this reptiles. and here we are. this is how vote. make nigel king is how you vote. make nigel king of jungle. you've got the of the jungle. if you've got the app' of the jungle. if you've got the app, get five free votes. app, you get five free votes. there's qr i've
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there's the qr code. i've already done it. and so there's so much to look forward to over the if he wins the next few days. if he wins and in tonight, that is and stays in tonight, that is the key thing. now just to finish, been talking a lot finish, we've been talking a lot about what goes on the houses about what goes on in the houses of parliament. this is my extraordinary . what, the farage extraordinary. what, the farage moment. one, david cameron, moment. yes one, david cameron, lord cameron. now look at him there. very smart , resplendent there. very smart, resplendent in the in the cloak. the i think it's the ermine. and just take a look at though this little sort of lord cameron. so can he say if he is personally confident in their effectiveness and if he isn't , can he say what measures isn't, can he say what measures he will take to improve the position ? position? >> well, i thank the honourable lady for what she said. the honourable lady for what she is. noble lady. sorry i'll get there eventually. i haven't asked the office specifically for a sort office specifically for a sort of analysis of the weakness of the sanctions and travel bans and asset freezes that we put in place. but with the question she
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asks, i'm very happy to go and do that to see if there are ways that the system isn't working. i think with all these things we have to sense check them . have to sense check them. >> thought we'd seen the last >> i thought we'd seen the last of pose he performed of that pose when he performed like this in the of like this in the house of commons. let me be very fair to the right honourable gentleman that i followed. >> i followed very carefully his interview desert island interview on desert island discs, and i think it's fair to say he's no longer a follower of marx . he's say he's no longer a follower of marx. he's loving engels instead i >> -- >> well, -_ >> well, i'm joined in the studio by jacob rees—mogg. i think it's fair to say jacob, he hasn't forgotten how to speak at the despatch box. he's rather rather still familiar with that pose that that sort of sense of confidence. >> he's a very capable and charismatic politician. >> that's why he managed to be prime minister for six years. and since he's gone, most prime ministers have hardly managed six months. i mean, it's been quite, quite a short merry go round. >> talking of going, we've got a ministerial resignation this evening. one robert jenrick gone, really serious gone, which is really serious
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and robert, widely respected, popular in the house of commons and saying that this rwanda legislation doesn't work . legislation doesn't work. >> and that's a problem that is absolutely a problem. >> and we just had patrick christie. he's breaking a massive at 9:00 that massive story at 9:00 that actually we in in in the northern france, they view it as a joke and that it's not a deterrent factor at all, which means the whole thing is sort of a waste of time. >> well, i think it would be a deterrent if actually people got on planes and were flown to rwanda. and the question is, how do you that happen? and do you make that happen? and i think bill would been think this bill would have been effective we had time. and effective if we had time. and i think the issue here is that time running out. time is running out. >> briefly, 30s on your >> and briefly, 30s on your show, that's we're going to show, that's what we're going to be talking about. >> jenrick suella >> robert jenrick suella braverman does rishi braverman and what does rishi sunak didn't sunak do and why didn't suella braverman legal braverman talk about the legal immigration numbers? don't immigration numbers? i don't know the legal know because actually the legal immigration numbers are much more problem. they're more of a problem. they're much bigger number 1.4 million in 2 years is absolutely loads to talk about. >> jacob it's going to be a great show indeed. there we are. you've heard it all here.
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extraordinary shows. don't forget to vote for nigel this evening. every single evening. he needs every single vote. the vote. but first of all, it's the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast. it's been a cold, but for many bright day. however our big changes take place overnight as increasingly wet and windy weather arrives from the west . atlantic areas of from the west. atlantic areas of low pressure are moving in from the west , low pressure are moving in from the west, bringing weather fronts, bringing strengthening winds, bringing increasingly wet, but also in places , milder wet, but also in places, milder conditions. we start off with an early frost in the east, but as the cloud increases overnight, temperatures will actually rise through the night and we'll see that rain spread in as that rain bumps into the colder air. there'll be some hill snow over northern england. parts of scotland well affect scotland as well could affect some routes first thing some higher routes first thing thursday. quickly thursday. but quite quickly through the day, having seen some patches snow
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some icy patches and some snow over we'll see the over the hills, we'll see the mild air sweep across the uk , mild air sweep in across the uk, turning the rain to rain at all levels and actually it is going to be a soggy day for most of us with that rain heaviest in the west, strengthening winds and risk of gales for western scotland . and it's not going to scotland. and it's not going to feel very pleasant with temperatures of 5 to 7 celsius in the east, although double figures the west as that figures for the west as that milder takes a hold fridays, milder air takes a hold fridays, a similar day with low pressure close by spiralling bands of rain or showers circulating around the wettest weather around it. the wettest weather once again in the west. but those showers to most those showers spreading to most parts afternoon. parts through the afternoon. gusty winds but feeling a bit milder in places as well. the weekend brings further spells of rain and showers. also some dner rain and showers. also some drier interludes at times a brighter outlook with boxt solar or sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight in a major blow to the rwanda policy, robert jenrick, the migration minister has resigned. robert has resigned. clearly robert jenrick does not think the bill goes far enough , even though it goes far enough, even though it overturned supreme court overturned the supreme court ruling declared rwanda ruling and declared rwanda a safe country. this comes as the government introduced a new rwanda bill and prime rwanda bill and the prime minister called for unity. boris johnson has faced yet another inquisition, this time from an inquiry that seems already to have reached the conclusion that the only problem lockdown the only problem with lockdown was didn't go or was that we didn't go hard or early enough. evidence early enough. but the evidence suggests otherwise, and we will be assessing it shortly. in any reasonable university , you might reasonable university, you might expect calls for genocide to amount to a breach of its conduct policy, but apparently not in the case of some of america's most elite universities, as revealed in a congressional house committee heanng congressional house committee hearing yesterday that went viral. plus, after the end of
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