good evening with gb news. >> our top story today, we'll start this bulletin with some breaking news. we're seeing reports of a shooting on a major shopping centre street in central brussels . this is shopping centre street in central brussels. this is in belgium. local media is saying four people have been injured in the incident and that the suspect fled the scene immediately . that suspect is immediately. that suspect is currently still on the loose. a manhunt is underway and belgium police are saying there's no indication at this stage it's a terrorist attack . but some local terrorist attack. but some local media outlets suggesting the shooting could be urban gang, as they put it, related. so suspect on the loose in brussels tonight. and it seems like four people have been injured . one of people have been injured. one of them is in a serious condition. more on that, of course, as we get it tomorrow. now, the prime minister has described the decision by the immigration minister, robert jenrick , to minister, robert jenrick, to resign today as disappointing, saying it was based on a

fundamental misunderstand of the situation in a letter to the prime minister, robert jenrick had said the small boats crisis was doing untold damage to the country and that he profoundly disagreed with the direction of government policy on the matter. mr jenrick quit just after the government published its new rwanda bill, which attempts to kerb illegal migration. ian well, earlier on today the home secretary had outlined the new emergency legislation to process illegal migrants in rwanda , illegal migrants in rwanda, saying it would prevent future legal challenges. james cleverly saying that rwanda is now deemed a safe country within which uk migrants can be processed and that it backs up other government measures to stop the small boats. mr cleverly added that there was no risk migrants could be returned to their countries of origin from rwanda as a result of the new measures, and that other countries in fact wanted to take the approach wanted to take the same approach which government and the public alike support it. >> the rwanda plan other

countries have since copied our plans with rwanda , and we know plans with rwanda, and we know from interviews that the prospect of being relocated out of the uk has already had a deterrent effect. this will be considered doubly magnified when we get those flights to rwanda . we get those flights to rwanda. this treaty and this new bill will help to make that a reality and yet earlier on today , the and yet earlier on today, the former home secretary, suella braverman , said the bill was braverman, said the bill was destined to fail , adding that it destined to fail, adding that it actually posed a threat to the future of the party. >> the conservative party faces electoral oblivion in a matter of months if we introduce yet another bill destined to fail . another bill destined to fail. do we fight for sovereignty or do we let our party die.7 i refuse to sit by and allow us to fail, celebrate de—man. >> now, in other news today, bofis >> now, in other news today, boris johnson told the covid inquiry that he did make

mistakes during the pandemic. if you're watching on television, there are some flashing images coming up. the former prime minister told the inquiry that things should have been done differently in the uk and he took full responsibility for the government's decision making at the time. mr johnson government's decision making at the time. mrjohnson apologised for the suffering caused , saying for the suffering caused, saying he should have twigged much sooner when the pandemic took hold in italy . sooner when the pandemic took hold in italy. in sooner when the pandemic took hold in italy . in february 2020. hold in italy. in february 2020. that's the news. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm nick dixon, taking you through tomorrow's top stories for the next hour. >> and i'm joined by token lefty steve an alan there he is. >> look at him and token carry

carry marks not my best joke of the show but they will get better. i like being a token carry. >> who's the real one.7 >> who's the real one? >> i couldn't categorise you beyond categorisation. that's the way i see myself. >> is your best joke of the >> it is your best joke of the show so far. you've only done one you proud of yourself. one dare you proud of yourself. put spin it. one dare you proud of yourself. putokay. spin it. one dare you proud of yourself. putokay. spin both ready to >> okay. you're both ready to smash this news. smash through this news. >> massive story we're going >> one massive story we're going to ready to to talk about. so get ready to talk the tories for a long talk about the tories for a long time. >> so have a look at >> so let's have a look at thursday's pages. >> so let's have a look at thlso ay's pages. >> so let's have a look at thlso the pages. >> so let's have a look at thlso the times)ages. >> so let's have a look at thlso the times hass. >> so let's have a look at thlso the times has rwanda bill >> so the times has rwanda bill is , says jenrick, as he is doomed, says jenrick, as he quits the guardian tories in turmoil as immigration minister quits over rwanda. >> bill financial times sunak's drive to unite tories behind rwanda. >> bill implodes as jenrick quits the eyes spin as jenrick quits the eyes spin as jenrick quits as sunak takes on tory right over immigration. the telegraph immigration minister quits as pm warned of electoral oblivion and the daily star pinocchio on the stand. i swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. and that's a slightly different story about boris and the covid inquiry. so those are

the covid inquiry. so those are the headlines . the headlines. >> so let's kick off with this one massive story on the daily mail. >> steve yeah, i'm across all the news. >> i think i've not really read up on is rwanda, so i'll be and robert jenrick you've never heard of those two. it's a shame that's up really, isn't that's come up really, isn't it? i think the daily mail front page though great. firstly, page though is great. firstly, the j—lo picture, we should mention, that outfit mention, she's in that outfit and she says she's bullet—proof. she's could get shot in and she says she's bullet—proof. she underboob could get shot in and she says she's bullet—proof. she underboob yeah, get shot in and she says she's bullet—proof. she underboob yeah, she shot in and she says she's bullet—proof. she underboob yeah, she wowsn and she says she's bullet—proof. she underboob yeah, she wows in crazy. >> look, i was wowed, but >> look, i was wowed, yes, but mainly because the mainly just because of the bright you'd see your bright shine back you'd see your own you and sneak own face if you try and sneak a look, actually teaches you look, which actually teaches you a lesson. >> but let's get back to will the give fighting the tories ever give up fighting each fighting each other and start fighting labour? question mark. no, no. this is entertainment . so we've this is entertainment. so we've got robert jenrick, who's resigned as immigration minister. they call it a huge blow to sunak. i mean, it is just to try and get us all on the same page just before we actually go through the actually have to go through the leadership and i've leadership contest. and i've already the t shirt already still got the t shirt from last time. so this new

bill, rwanda, was bill, this rwanda, it was declared because that's declared safe because that's what now. just what you can do now. just declare safe through declare a place safe through a bill. they do with bill. they should do that with london out all london and sort out all the knife yesterday the london and sort out all the knife we yesterday the london and sort out all the knife we heard:erday the london and sort out all the knife we heard thaty the london and sort out all the knife we heard that the the london and sort out all the knife we heard that the centrist show, we heard that the centrist tories might rebel if they were to much against human rights. then side the then the right side of the tories they're not tories rebelled. they're not against human rights enough. home james cleverly , home secretary james cleverly, the said this rwanda the man who said this rwanda bill is not the be all and end all, really bigging up. how all, is really bigging up. how important now. and the important this is now. and the upshot immigration upshot is the immigration bill managed an managed to cost us an immigration minister. meanwhile rwanda says that they might not be playing ball with this anymore because they're not sure that the uk will stick to international laws. we just need that the uk will stick to intattributell laws. we just need that the uk will stick to int attribute it,aws. we just need that the uk will stick to int attribute it, declare just need to attribute it, declare ourselves we've sorted ourselves safe and we've sorted it . it. >> that bit annoyed me though. rwanda our as >> that bit annoyed me though. thhey're our as >> that bit annoyed me though. thhey're this our as >> that bit annoyed me though. thhey're this place. as >> that bit annoyed me though. thhey're this place. i as if they're this great place. i mean, or not? we need if they're this great place. i m

would put people off coming here if up there. if they end up there. >> so must be a bad place. >> so there must be a bad place. but that it's a bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is that it's a bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is met that it's a bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is met with that it's a bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is met with how it's a bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is met with how dare) bad >> so there must be a bad place. but is met with how dare you! place is met with how dare you say rwanda? you're say that about rwanda? you're the a great place. the racist. it's a great place. so that this whole thing is so even that this whole thing is built foundation of not built on a foundation of not making sense. >> let's just go >> okay, well, let's just go through things through some of the things jenrick his resignation letter. >> he said he had such strong disagreements with direction >> he said he had such strong distheaements with direction >> he said he had such strong disthe government's direction >> he said he had such strong disthe government's policyection >> he said he had such strong disthe government's policy on on of the government's policy on immigration. that was in his tweet immigration. that was in his tweand then the letter >> and then within the letter itself, the itself, he called for the strongest possible of strongest possible piece of emergency he's emergency legislation. he's saying emergency. >> be treated as >> it needs to be treated as such, and he wants major new such, and he wants a major new deterrent doesn't deterrent and he doesn't want to be another politician be yet another politician failing immigration failing to keep immigration promises. some promises. so there was some integrity . carrie, what do integrity there. carrie, what do you think this thing? you think to this whole thing? >> i think of this whole thing? >> thing? > going w“ >> well, i'm going to rush through i want through this because i want us to get next story, which to get to the next story, which is exactly the same. okay. and then the next after that, then the next story after that, which of it, because which is more of it, because this this this this is obviously this is this this is obviously this is this this new brexit, isn't this is the new brexit, isn't it, going to down it, that's going to bring down politician politics. it, that's going to bring down politiciayou politics. it, that's going to bring down politiciayou canolitics. it, that's going to bring down politiciayou can be :ics. it, that's going to bring down politiciayou can be pretty of that. >> and we're hearing of an electoral oblivion that's coming and government's and really the government's constantly and really the government's consmagic. rwanda, as i call

this magic. rwanda, as i call it. nice thank very much. it. nice thank you very much. and came with a joke. and you came with a joke. it's really whether it's really a case of whether it's the plan or whether it's the rwanda plan or whether it's the rwanda plan or whether it's the other plan, of course, the other plan, which of course, no knows what that is no one knows what that is because other because no one said any other plan than rwanda at plan at all other than rwanda at the which they're trying the moment, which they're trying to through . you know, sunak to push through. you know, sunak has said over and over again that he'll do whatever it takes. and we still don't know what that really that means. no one's really making any speeches that really come to any kind result come to any kind of result whatsoever us a clue. whatsoever or or give us a clue. the new idea is that they will push through with rwanda, but people have the right to a legal challenge and then to contest to appeal against the challenge. if it goes against them, which is going to work out more expensive than we had in than any other plan we had in the first place anyway. although it might more courtrooms and it might be more courtrooms and more will bring more jobs which will bring in more jobs which will bring in more to do so. more people to do so. >> that's a positive yeah, >> that's a positive spin. yeah, and one of jemmott's claims is that has come that those sunak has come to agree with private agree with him in private conversations this bill conversations that this bill won't doesn't go won't go through. it doesn't go far a it's an far enough. it's a it's an indication hope indication of hope over experience. said in a letter. experience. he said in a letter. >> yeah, well, cynical side

>> yeah, well, the cynical side of me thinks this whole thing was about pulling focus and being not being a distraction by not managing the boats . but managing to stop the boats. but you onto rwanda you can pull focus onto rwanda and how dare you say that and left lawyers are trying to left your lawyers are trying to stop we sit here stop it. we even we sit here talking about rwanda. we're actually boats actually the issue is boats making across a very making its way across a very different water. bit different bit of water. the bit that really shocking that was really shocking today was this deal was that apparently in this deal that's that's cost that's been struck, that's cost us money. anyone in us even more money. if anyone in rwanda crime, they can rwanda commits a crime, they can be deported back to the uk . so be deported back to the uk. so this way to filter out just criminals. >> yeah, we have to take we have to agree to take people from rwanda. whole thing is a rwanda. so the whole thing is a joke. a boomerang thing. >> we just send people back and forwards australia now forwards way the australia now at keep them busy. at least we keep them busy. >> i would argue the whole >> but i would argue the whole small thing is a of a small boats thing is a bit of a distraction because legal immigration high is the immigration being so high is the real they're not real issue that they're not even addressing. but let's move on and the telegraph and and do the telegraph carrier and they've of suella they've got a picture of suella braverman, which an braverman, which gives us an excuse least on to excuse to at least move on to that it. that part of it. >> yeah, seen half the >> yeah, i've seen half the speech just now before the programme, so can't programme, so i can't really talk much guys who talk as much as you guys who i assume watched all. assume will have watched it all. did you. >> yeah, i watched it, yeah.

>> yeah, i watched it, yeah. >> knew i was >> did you? because i knew i was coming news television coming on a news television programme on national tv. it was underground so what programme on national tv. it was undyou3und so what programme on national tv. it was undyou3und from so what programme on national tv. it was undyou3und from it? so what did you learn from it? >> loads. >> loads. >> i actually surprised she >> i was actually surprised she didn't at sunak it. it didn't go harder at sunak it. it didn't go harder at sunak it. it did seem sort of like a leadership style speech, but she didn't that didn't actually attack him that directly. basically didn't actually attack him that directhe basically didn't actually attack him that directhe tories basically didn't actually attack him that directhe tories are asically didn't actually attack him that directhe tories are heading for said the tories are heading for complete implosion. if they don't the small boats. but don't solve the small boats. but she didn't address mass she still didn't address mass migration kind, so she still didn't address mass nthought kind, so she still didn't address mass nthought it kind, so she still didn't address mass nthought it was kind, so she still didn't address mass nthought it was a kind, so she still didn't address mass nthought it was a slightlyj, so i thought it was a slightly underwhelming given her resignation was resignation letter, which was actually harsher. resignation letter, which was act| i ally harsher. resignation letter, which was actllally you sher. resignation letter, which was actllally you know, overall, >> i think, you know, overall, i think this is still is think this is still this is going issue the going to be the big issue of the next election. if it's not solved by then and it will not be and it's be solved by then and it's i really it's one of those really feel it's one of those ones the really ones that the public really wants a very wants someone to make a very hard decision at some point. and at time, don't at the same time, they don't want to have any responsibility for do you for that. okay. what do you think feels like it's think it feels like it's going i mean, firstly, i hope i get to do resignation speech next do a resignation speech the next time and but she's time i'm fired. and but she's got at having got good practice at having to leave so, know, leave that post. so, you know, she for it. she was well prepared for it. and i think, i mean , it comes and i think, i mean, it comes across as she kind of blurs the line between legal and illegal migration, talking about how big

the numbers are, net migration and gross migration was at 1.2 million. and you can of in million. and you can kind of in fact, makes me think the fact, that makes me think the only has kept his only person who has kept his promise on migration david promise on migration is david cameron, get it cameron, who promised to get it down tens of thousands. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's tens of thousands. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's was ns of thousands. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's was that thousands. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's was that 120 usands. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's was that 120 tensjs. cameron, who promised to get it dow1that's was that 120 tens of and that's was that 120 tens of thousands. and that's was that 120 tens of thousands . there's just a lot of thousands. there's just a lot of tens. but that's how adding works. it did come works. and yeah, it did come across more as a pitch to try and be the next leader. but i think the thing is, it's the tories. can't be the one to tories. you can't be the one to drive the knife into the back because you don't get gig. because you don't get the gig. >> you next to that >> no, you stand next to that quy- guy. yeah. >> so i that's why she >> so i think that's why she didn't actually full didn't actually just go full on on make him lose the on sunak and make him lose the job. the one who starts job. if she's the one who starts the leadership she's out. it also wouldn't be a very >> it also wouldn't be a very intelligent to over intelligent time to take over the party. you the leadership of the party. you want starmer has want to wait till starmer has beenin want to wait till starmer has been in a ruining the been in for a bit, ruining the country and then. and then come in. that's i think in. i think that's why i think farage in 2029. that's farage comes in in 2029. that's my theory. but there was also a rumour that be letters rumour that there'll be letters to committee. more rumour that there'll be letters to a committee. more rumour that there'll be letters to a warningommittee. more rumour that there'll be letters to a warningommjust. more rumour that there'll be letters to a warningommjust to more rumour that there'll be letters to a warningommjust to saylore rumour that there'll be letters to a warningommjust to say toe as a warning shot just to say to sunak, keep up sunak, you can't keep messing up on immigration from the backbenches the party. >> that could backfire as well,

though, because if it does trigger a confidence vote, win it want. it doesn't make trigger a confidence vote, win it difference.t. it doesn't make trigger a confidence vote, win it difference. everyone1't make trigger a confidence vote, win it difference. everyone who ake trigger a confidence vote, win it difference. everyone who wins a difference. everyone who wins it collapsing it ends up collapsing eventually. it ends up collapsing evechristopher >> christopher hope had an interesting point on this channel. john major channel. he said that john major called vote in called a confidence vote in himself. gutsy move, himself. that's a gutsy move, isn't it? which is another opfion isn't it? which is another option sunak just can option for sunak just which can show in the party. but i show you up in the party. but i doubt would doubt sunak would risk it personally time, but personally at this time, but i don't personally at this time, but i dont he personally at this time, but i don't he could do. don't know. he could do. >> doubt very much. don't know. he could do. >> i doubt very much. don't know. he could do. >> i wouldn'try much. don't know. he could do. >> i wouldn't do nuch. don't know. he could do. >> i wouldn't do |jch. don't know. he could do. >> i wouldn't do i wouldn't even do show with you two. do it on this show with you two. i confidence i wouldn't call a confidence vote in myself. >> so i see if i'm still here. after the break. >> yeah, all right. well, after the break. >think yeah, all right. well, after the break. >think we've h, all right. well, after the break. >think we've done right. well, after the break. >think we've done well:. well, after the break. >think we've done well there,, i think we've done well there, given only one story. given there was only one story. so it for part one. but so that is it for part one. but coming up,

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basically. you know, boris took a libertarian point of a very libertarian point of view. are his politics. view. those are his politics. but libertarianism but it turns out libertarianism doesn't too well against doesn't work too well against the i won't read the disease. i won't read through every threat. also every threat, every accusation option to start with here. but just give you some of his answers which were admitted. i'd may have decline and dismissed overreact an incoherent and the b word. can we say the b word on this show or is that no? because we go out at 5 am? no but it sounds like a term used in rowing. you can work it out yourself. >> it sounds like what a term used in rowing on small boats. ironically, the things ironically, you know, the things that the that attach to the oars. >> yeah. it sounds >> oh, okay. yeah. it sounds like you'd have put in like something you'd have put in your face to stop yourself smiling your smiling or raising your eyebrows. i didn't get that eyebrows. okay i didn't get that one. t yeah, okay, good. >> we've cleared up that. >> we've cleared up that. >> this is a whole new type of show now. yeah, we're playing. >> swearwords. yes. show now. yeah, we're playing. >> really swearwords. yes. show now. yeah, we're playing. >> really mild nearwords. yes. show now. yeah, we're playing. >> really mild swearing, yes. show now. yeah, we're playing. >> really mild swearing, really the really mild swearing, really soft word. the really mild swearing, really softbut word. the really mild swearing, really softbut also 'ord. the really mild swearing, really softbut also he. a word. one >> but also he was a word. one would also, if you put it in your face, stop you smiling and raising your eyebrows, because your face, stop you smiling and raisingnotjr eyebrows, because your face, stop you smiling and raisingnot the (ebrows, because your face, stop you smiling and raisingnot the purpose because your face, stop you smiling and raisingnot the purpose ofcause

your face, stop you smiling and raisingnot the purpose of it,|se that's not the purpose of it, obviously. but a effect. obviously. but as a side effect. yeah that's yeah yeah. that's not. >> the stuff that >> it sounds like the stuff that cungs >> it sounds like the stuff that clings boats. >> it sounds like the stuff that cliryeah. boats. >> it sounds like the stuff that cliryeah. yeahats. >> it sounds like the stuff that cliryeah. yeah in. >> it sounds like the stuff that cliryeah. yeah in the right >> yeah. yeah in the right weather they would weather conditions they would cling on to boats. the we cling on to boats. the stuff we experimented rich people experimented with rich people on and able use experimented with rich people on an�*like able use experimented with rich people on an�*like most able use experimented with rich people on an�*like most things. use experimented with rich people on an�*like most things. and;e it. like with most things. and yeah, so he's basically said he's he's upset about a few things but it's not it's not very committal. he also apologised for shaking hands with people who had covid cases in hospital, which i think when he did it though i think he was hoping he'd be like diana shaking hands with people who had aids everyone would be had aids and everyone would be like, wow, this is really impressive. the impressive. but it went the wrong for him. this wrong way for him. i think this is difficult, know, is difficult, you know, because at whole at the beginning of the whole thing, was there was a lot thing, there was there was a lot of talk about building antibodies and antibodies in a society and whether would well. whether that would work as well. and think it was there was and i think it was there was a time where it was anyone's guess. and the other thing that really difficult for really makes it difficult for me is that love lockdowns. is that i love lockdowns. i'm a huge know, people huge fan. you know, people go travelling to travelling the whole world to find and found find themselves. and i found myself lockdown . it turns myself in lockdown. it turns out i'm layabout. what i'm a layabout. that's what i discovered. found out that discovered. and i found out that i really like working. so

i don't really like working. so i don't really like working. so i was quite like, i could have told that about yourself, told you that about yourself, didn't do an hour show about didn't you do an hour show about being lazy? >> i the anti—social >> i like the whole anti—social side of it. >> who needs. yeah. bubbler anyway, but. but then there was the whole destruction of the whole country. >> destruction. >> there was a destruction. >> there was a destruction. >> died. >> a lot of people died. i honestly sure where we get honestly not sure where we get with he's prime with this. he's not prime minister anymore. it's minister anymore. i think it's good to have an inquiry to look into happened, but it's for into what happened, but it's for not be not me. pragmatic would be a worldwide inquiry into what every what worked, every country did, what worked, what every country did, what worked, wiat every country did, what worked, wia lockdown actually were on of a lockdown actually were on society work out what you society and work out what you really need to do sort of thing like this come again, which like this come up again, which is not doing. is what we're not doing. >> doubling on >> they're just doubling down on the we didn't lock down the oh, we didn't lock down early that's they're early enough. that's all they're saying. not a serious saying. and it's not a serious inquiry lockdowns. it's inquiry into lockdowns. it's more of a as richard tice was saying about saying earlier, it's about gotchas. it's about personality politics. that politics. the part that particularly was particularly bothered me was this keith, who's this hugo keith, kc who's this? the like, i'm the the sort of he's like, i'm the big he's the sort big prosecutor. he's the sort of tom and he said tom cruise of it. and he said that had the second that britain had the second worst deaths in europe , worst excess deaths in europe, and then qualifies and goes and then he qualifies and goes west but it's not west in europe. but it's not even as jacob even true because as jacob rees—mogg earlier this

rees—mogg said earlier on this channel, there's a whole list of countries listed. there's countries he listed. there's austria, slovakia , austria, lithuania, slovakia, poland, czech republic, spain . poland, czech republic, spain. and these are just from memory. there's whole slovenia there's a whole list, slovenia that than us. that were worse than us. slovakia, like so many countries . so it's just completely false what what is what he said. so what is going on this inquiry, on with this inquiry, steve? well, are well, look, many people are making about the making the accusation about the inquiry the right questions. you need bear in mind >> you do need to bear in mind this is a 17 part saga at the moment. we're on phase two, which believe is just getting which i believe is just getting all the characters back involved. the time you to involved. by the time you get to section they'll asking section five, they'll be asking some questions. the whole some useful questions. the whole thing about 90 years thing will take about 90 years to which okay to get through, which is okay because these pandemics happen once so ten once every 100 years. so ten years the next one, we'll years before the next one, we'll get . but mean, there get something. but i mean, there is quote of boris, is my favourite quote of boris, and just the one and if we're just doing the one word he said he was word version is he said he was bewildered that bewildered and i missed that one. yeah checks out isn't it the whole bit where he goes on about how he lost his whatsapps he's embarrassing this guy was in of country and in charge of the country and he doesn't how a doesn't even know how to use a phone. that was worrying. phone. so that was worrying. it's got whiff the wagatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. whiff the wagatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. if'hiff the wagatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. if hef the wagatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. if he coulde wagatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. if he could haveiatha phone. so that was worrying. it's goit. if he could have been about it. if he could have been near the north sea, that phone

would been swimming now. would have been swimming by now. >> did say the >> yeah. and he did say the response incoherent at response was incoherent at times. yes, times. it's like lol. yes, we know, yeah, yes, it's know, but yeah, but yes, it's absurd ways. but you absurd in many ways. but you say it take years. but sweden it should take years. but sweden have done and have already done this and they've concluded. we they've concluded. yeah we nailed saying should take >> i'm not saying it should take years. i'm saying with the remit that one's got will take that this one's got it will take you, not good, but it you, which is not good, but it actually rug from actually pulls the rug out from underneath the accusation of they've not asked the right question yet. don't worry, they've think really >> do you think they really will? the it's will? because the way it's going, i don't feel like they will. don't feel like that's will. i don't feel like that's their will. i don't feel like that's the i will. i don't feel like that's thei got will. i don't feel like that's the i got to will. i don't feel like that's thei got to say, i liked his >> i got to say, i liked his whatsapp where he said he whatsapp reply where he said he said wouldn't had said they wouldn't have had whatsapps it's whatsapps in the past. so it's basically yeah, basically unfair. yeah. yeah, maybe right. maybe that's true. all right. well done enough on well we probably done enough on that do that one, so let's do the guardian and the so—called hillsborough guardian and the so—called hillsborothas been rejected. >> sorry, has been rejected. steve, can you explain this one? >> try. government rejects >> i can try. government rejects hillsborough law central to campaign family so hillsborough law central to cam campaign, family so hillsborough law central to cam campaign, which family so hillsborough law central to cam campaign, which starts so hillsborough law central to cam campaign, which starts from this campaign, which starts from the disaster in 1989. so it has taken ages. then there was a review in 2017, which is nearer but still taking ages so much. so there's been apologies about that amount of time that's passed and wanted there to

passed and they wanted there to be this legal requirement be this this legal requirement of candour when public bodies are involved in anything. that's are involved in anything. that's a tragedy like this part of it. you do think , well, you presume you do think, well, you presume that these bodies should be acting in public interest at the time, so you wouldn't need to bnngin time, so you wouldn't need to bring in law about it. but when the refuses to sign a the government refuses to sign a law don't if law about that, i don't know if it like red why it feels like a red flag. why are you not agreeing with the aims? six of aims? the six points of the charter that public charter were that public authorities place authorities should place the pubuc authorities should place the public own public interest above their own reputation , you kind of reputation again, you kind of expect that they should approach inquiries candour. you inquiries with candour. you expect do you even expect that. but how do you even legally enforce it? cover ups are, nature, are, by their very nature, covered up. >> covered up, yeah, famously. >> covered up, yeah, famously. >> knowing >> and then not knowing or misleading the public or the media to avoiding to seek to defend indefensible defend the indefensible. all these aims . i don't these are great aims. i don't know if they'd ever be applicable . well, the only good applicable. well, the only good change that will definitely come from this is that there will be legal representing people legal aid representing people who have who need aid to have legal representation if they've been involved in something like this, which they don't which at the moment they don't have which totally

have, which does seem totally ridiculous . oh, have, which does seem totally ridiculous. oh, and also just to annoy you, keir starmer, the labour said that if he labour leader, said that if he won, he would bring in this law thatis won, he would bring in this law that is annoying. >> anything on i >> carry anything on this? i know and law. know you love football and law. >> absolutely . yes. my >> absolutely. yes. two of my favourite subjects . law maybe, favourite subjects. law maybe, but the football. but no, but not the football. but no, i just agree. that's everything on this list is something you say. well, as opposed to what kanda as opposed to saying no , we're as opposed to saying no, we're going to increase secrecy and delay thuggery. yeah, these delay thuggery. so yeah, these just seem like it's taken this many years to, to basically state the very obvious things that should be clearly in place in the first place. so, okay, well, let's do the next one then, because this is a good one in the independent and zelenskyy has cancelled his address to the us senate calls more us senate as calls for more funding rejected. funding have been rejected. >> joke when you >> and that's a joke when you get new phone, new phone, who get a new phone, new phone, who dis essentially gone get a new phone, new phone, who dis war? essentially gone get a new phone, new phone, who dis war? who essentially gone get a new phone, new phone, who dis war? who dis;sentially gone get a new phone, new phone, who dis war? who dis kerry? ly gone new war? who dis kerry? >> well, the biden administration zelenskyy administration invited zelenskyy to address the senators so they could hear directly from him precisely what's at stake, which

i thought we know what's at stake, don't we? it's losing a war. yeah, right. so why he needed to be there? i've got no idea. or rather, it was supposed to be an appearance by internet , to be an appearance by internet, which just seems complete . what which just seems complete. what it is. wars drag on at first. when they start, everyone's really got strong opinions and wants something to happen, but they become tiresome after a while and people lose interest. and. and of course there's more . and. and of course there's more. wars look like they're on the cards at the moment with venezuela eyeing up guyana and what's going on still continues. syria, yemen, the houthis are attacking in the red sea . who do attacking in the red sea. who do they think they are? and no one knows whether we're entering into a phase where america is going to need all its weapons and going to need more for and going to need more money for what's like it's going what's looking like it's going to become event . but at to become a world event. but at the same time, israel, you haven't even mentioned, of haven't even mentioned, well, of course, palestine yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, palestine yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, isn't palestine yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, isn't it?|lestine yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, isn't it? yeah|e yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, isn't it? yeah i yes. haven't even mentioned, well, of ccgiven, isn't it? yeah i think a given, isn't it? yeah i think it's something like 15 military wars or skirmishes going on at the moment around the world. so any any time it can all explode.

but there's also problems with this is the us stops giving arms and the imf funding is going to stop and it's going to be a desperate situation for ukraine at the moment. yeah >> and if you thought my intro was a bit crass, it even says in the article the us is now showing signs of fatigue and disapproval for funding the war. it's not the current thing anymore and there's a strong feeling seems to feeling in the us, it seems to me, following kind of neo me, following the kind of neo con era of cheney that a lot of people in us are reluctant people in the us are reluctant to more wars. think in to fund more wars. i think in europe are a lot more europe people are a lot more sympathetic it's sympathetic to ukraine. it's a lot but in the us lot closer to us. but in the us i a sense, especially on i do get a sense, especially on the that they're very the right, that they're very sick this war. sick of funding this war. >> they certainly part of >> yeah, they certainly part of the republican might the the republican base might be the phrase thinking phrase they use is thinking why spend things phrase they use is thinking why sperthis? things phrase they use is thinking why sperthis? and things phrase they use is thinking why sperthis? and that's things phrase they use is thinking why sperthis? and that's great�*ngs like this? and that's not great for because, you know, if for us because, you know, if putin wins, you're right. we're for us because, you know, if pilol wins, you're right. we're for us because, you know, if pilol closer. (ou're right. we're for us because, you know, if pilol closer. there'sght. we're for us because, you know, if pilol closer. there's also ne're for us because, you know, if pilol closer. there's also thee a lot closer. there's also the politics agreement politics of tying agreement to fund what the democrats want to other things that the republicans want. more republicans want. there's more of a standoff. there's two parts. some people don't parts. there's some people don't want money to be and want the money to be spent. and other realised, well, other parts have realised, well, we wait this out. we could

we could wait this out. we could leave a tricky leave biden in a tricky situation, both which leave situation, both of which leave putin in a good place. >> it was pretty ridiculous that chuck schumer said was chuck schumer said this was cancelled came chuck schumer said this was car atlled came chuck schumer said this was carat the came chuck schumer said this was carat the last came chuck schumer said this was carat the last minute. came chuck schumer said this was carat the last minute. i came chuck schumer said this was carat the last minute. i mean, ame up at the last minute. i mean, they're not even trying. >> i mean, came >> i mean, what came up? >> i mean, what came up? >> yeah, what could be >> yeah, well, what could be more this? mean, more serious than this? i mean, it like fog off to it does seem like a fog off to the the layman. what's your son? >> as fun as they used to be, are they? i mean, they used to be more. you know, you look back to last one or the last one to the last one or the last one that just went the way war goes in of falklands in textbook of the falklands where starts war, we where someone starts a war, we go a bit a war, go in, there's a bit of a war, and then a white flag and then there's a white flag and then there's a white flag and all and win and that's all over and we win it out. that's not the it out. but that's not the reality. and what we've seen with middle east and wars with the middle east and wars and just drag on and so on is they just drag on and so on is they just drag on and drag on. and the money and they drag on. and the money runs out and weapons run out runs out and the weapons run out and becomes desperate and then it becomes a desperate fight. wrong, is fight. it all went wrong, is when stopped leading people when king stopped leading people into the front. it was one of the george's >> it was one of the george's george second or fourth or something, something. something, 17 something. that's when wrong . do you when it all went wrong. do you think would help do think that would help now? do you the you think? because if the leader, a good leader, leader, you know, a good leader, does he does what he says we

should like like ceo is should all do like like a ceo is prepared clean the toilet in should all do like like a ceo is pre owni clean the toilet in should all do like like a ceo is pre own business?the toilet in should all do like like a ceo is pre own business? yeah.ilet in should all do like like a ceo is pre own business? yeah. sunak his own business? yeah. sunak should go in with a sword. >> oh, you think i was thinking, charles, does oh, yeah. >> charles. yeah. charles. >> charles. yeah. charles. >> think religion helped with >> i think religion helped with that, though. people that, though. i think people could religious could have a religious fervour in now people in their war, and now people don't that kind you don't have that kind of, you know, putin's know, it's sort of what putin's doing, he's just doing, isn't it? he's just throwing people at it. his big fingers be bad with melee weapons. >> good on weapons. >> good note, >> good point. on that note, let's telegraph nigel let's do the telegraph and nigel farage not the farage will not rejoin the conservatives rishi sunak conservatives while rishi sunak is leader. well, obviously, because in that scenario, nigel would surely. would be leader steve, surely. >> is according to >> yeah. this is according to richard tice. farage will not rejoin tories while sunak pm. rejoin tories while sunak is pm. this well , i rejoin tories while sunak is pm. this well, i think this is this is well, i think this is brilliant because it can't happen. farage is currently in a jungle, seems to be doing well. he'll be there for a couple more days by the time we reach the end of week. sunak's not in end of the week. sunak's not in charge so are we charge anyway, so why are we wasting this? it wasting time with this? it couldn't i genuinely couldn't even exist. i genuinely think important think the more important thing from interview richard from the interview that richard tice the tice gave on bloomberg is the reform party challenge reform party will challenge conservative next conservative seats in the next election. 2019 conservative seats in the next electiwill 2019 conservative seats in the next electiwill step 2019 conservative seats in the next electiwill step down 2019 conservative seats in the next electiwill step down in 2019 conservative seats in the next electiwill step down in the 2019

style will step down in the places we want you to win. and that's going to be fascinating that was the part, thought. >> yeah, because they backed down 2019. was it was down in 2019. it was it was thought be a mistake later, thought to be a mistake later, at of their at least in terms of their reputation, a like the lib reputation, a bit like the lib dems coalition. not dems doing the coalition. not quite so they're quite as damaging. so they're saying do that, saying they wouldn't do that, which i don't which i totally believe. i don't believe part that farage believe the part that farage wouldn't join the tories, which is he believes is what he says he believes would happen he thinks would happen here, he thinks will with reform. not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced| reform. not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced ifaform. not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced if he 'm. not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced if he had not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced if he had an not would happen here, he thinks wilconvinced if he had an offer so convinced if he had an offer to be tory leader, but i will say us into battle say he would lead us into battle . he's in . farage. i mean, he's in a jungle for crying out loud. he would jungle with would definitely jungle with a sword. lead a sword. he would lead us in a battle. >> what you think, gary well, >> what do you think, gary well, yeah, in jungle with yeah, he's in the jungle with i'm celebrity get me out of yeah, he's in the jungle with i'm which rity get me out of yeah, he's in the jungle with i'm which is( get me out of yeah, he's in the jungle with i'm which is aset me out of yeah, he's in the jungle with i'm which is a disappointment here, which is a disappointment for you i put for me because, you know, i put in a tv idea a while ago, which was similar, but it was was was similar, but it was it was putting lot ventriloquists putting a lot of ventriloquists in and it was going in a in a box and it was going to i'm to be called i'm a ventriloquist. yeah i wondered where that was going. >> was i was i'm shocked. >> and it was i was i'm shocked. that's went. >> and it was i was i'm shocked. thathat's went. >> and it was i was i'm shocked. thathat's all went. >> and it was i was i'm shocked. thathat's all i'veent. >> and it was i was i'm shocked. thathat's all i've got . that is >> that's all i've got. that is it. i mean, look, i don't it. no, i mean, look, i don't know. i can't see i can't see

farage becoming prime minister. but obviously they need to bring him back in because they just can't yet another split can't afford yet another split with tory party, is with the tory party, which is what for the what they would have for the next election. what they would have for the nex farage on. what they would have for the nex farage will win 2029 after >> farage will win in 2029 after starmer's country for >> farage will win in 2029 after star years. country for >> farage will win in 2029 after staryears. you country for >> farage will win in 2029 after staryears. you heard country for >> farage will win in 2029 after staryears. you heard it untry for >> farage will win in 2029 after staryears. you heard it here for five years. you heard it here first, but the tragedy is if farage the tory party, farage does join the tory party, tobias ellwood has said he'd quit. so gutted we don't care. basically why could it? >> just another bit from richard tice . he did say if someone tice. he did say if someone consistently promises to supply a service to you and fails to deren a service to you and fails to deliver, you fire that supplier. so he's also in favour of nationalising water companies. we london. we live in london. >> interesting. steve like spin on that. that is it for part two. coming gender two. but coming up, gender conversion exercise conversion therapy. why exercise is trump threatens to is bad and trump threatens to become a dictator. finally, some good you

>> you're listening to gb news radio . welcome back to headliners. >> let's get straight into it with the guardian and our obligatory trans madness story tonight. carrie, we do one every

night. >> is it obligatory? >> is it obligatory? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for here >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for herthe contract. >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for hersoe contract. >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for herso this|tract. >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for herso this isact. >> oh, well, i'm glad i'm for herso this is kemi badenoch, >> so this is kemi badenoch, who's saying that the forms of conversion therapy are bad and we should be stopping them. conversion therapy , of course. conversion therapy, of course. it's a difficult term because it can mean something quite mild. talking to a friend and so on. but this is actual therapy where people are encouraged to have the change or to take puberty blockers , which of which there's blockers, which of which there's now. so much evidence against puberty blockers and the damage that they do that i don't even see that it's even much of a discussion session anymore. you think ? and of course, it's one think? and of course, it's one of those areas that there's a great deal of hysteria. right. i don't think you have to say the hysteria now, do i'm not hysteria now, do you? i'm not sure how that's changed. you know, what hear for some know, what we hear for some people not affirming people is that not affirming someone's gender is murder. so it's a difficult thing. it's become a difficult thing. i i think it's a bit weird that we call it gender affirming care. anyway, who has any of care anyway, who has any kind of care or a doctor to be affirmed or sees a doctor to be affirmed in any of their beliefs to

discuss something? maybe but it's like you go for it's like you don't go for abortion affirming care. it's like have discuss it with a like you have discuss it with a doctor who then decides whether it's right for you not. we it's right for you or not. we don't. we don't have assisted death affirming care. know, death affirming care. you know, there's of people there's no celebration of people who have come we've got who have come to us. we've got good results for them. we're confused, talked confused, but we've talked them into confused, but we've talked them intcright. it's never >> right. and it's never affirming the agenda you already are. never going. carrie, are. it's never going. carrie, you're it's always you're so a man. it's always affirming other affirming you to be the other one think we should be one i don't think we should be doing anyway. >> shouldn't be saying >> we shouldn't be saying you have with you are. have to stick with what you are. it's a case we should be helping people have problem people who have a problem and discussing it with them rather than anything than affirming anything really? >> the >> yeah, but steve, the confusion is before they confusion to me is before they were saying it's the conversion therapy the idea therapy ban was about the idea that just talking to people sensibly kind sensibly was a kind of conversion therapy, talking to young people sensibly. they were trying call that conversion trying to call that conversion therapy, and that made it confusing, now kind of confusing, but now is kind of hitting on the hitting back, going on the offensive, no, no, offensive, saying, no, no, what's is the what's conversion therapy is the affirming what's conversion therapy is the affiralways thought anyway. and i've always thought anyway. and there's and there's one other second aspect, the five second aspect, which is the five eyes is really eyes aspect, which is really interesting that we're not accepting any more gender

recognition from recognition certificates from certain which are now certain countries which are now going to include our closest allies in the five eyes of australia, new zealand, canada and we're and the us, because we're they're to have they're not going to have rigorous systems, which rigorous enough systems, which i think that being think is good, that we're being really we're saying, no, really strong. we're saying, no, your systems aren't enough, your systems aren't good enough, we're recognise we're not going to recognise them know, them anymore. yeah you know, i listened stories using listened to these stories using the phone to read them to me on the phone to read them to me on the in thought they the way in and i thought they were about five guys. the way in and i thought they well about five guys. the way in and i thought they weri got about five guys. the way in and i thought they weri got veryibout five guys. the way in and i thought they weri got very confused. guys. the way in and i thought they weri got very confused. g|don't >> i got very confused. i don't know you'd nip down the know why you'd nip down the burger know, the burger place, you know, the doctor might affirm your gender, burger place, you know, the doctdon'tght affirm your gender, burger place, you know, the doctdon't get affirm your gender, burger place, you know, the doctdon't get affout your gender, burger place, you know, the doctdon't get affout in ur gender, burger place, you know, the doctdon't get affout in the iender, but don't get it out in the burger place. you're right about the they're using the the way that they're using the language argument the way that they're using the languagso argument the way that they're using the languagso conversion argument harder. so conversion therapy now and the total now means itself. and the total opposite. so now you can't argue about therapy about conversion therapy because the phrase is now meaningless whenever a word means the opposite , it means cheese and opposite, it means cheese and non cheese . yeah, it's and non cheese. yeah, it's and literally it's one of those words that also means the words that now also means the opposite. metaphorical. words that now also means the oppyeah. metaphorical. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so it's we need to get to a stage where you can actually have a discussion about what people need people have a discussion about what peoplneed need people have a discussion about what peoplneed neethingszopleyou don't need about things that you shouldn't offended and shouldn't be offended by and then actually work out how to move forward we're not move forward on this. we're not ready it. we need another ready for it. we need another

couple getting couple of years worth of getting all but at all upset about stuff, but at some will have to some point that will have to happen. surely down happen. sure. surely it's down to law worded, to how the law is worded, though. i mean, if it's worded carefully, then i think it's about forms about extreme forms of conversion isn't it? conversion therapy, isn't it? really? about really? it's not. it's not about stopping form of or anyone stopping any form of or anyone going get any help. and i'm going to get any help. and i'm not against full affirming. i'd like to get some comma affirming care because i have a belief that i'm in a coma, which is why inever that i'm in a coma, which is why i never get anything done . i never get anything done. >> interesting. you know, you're definitely not, although it can feel like that at times discussing some of these stories. well, that one was quite good. do the quite good. let's do the guardian our obligatory guardian and our obligatory colonialism reparations story. >> steve yeah , thanks. i get >> steve yeah, thanks. i get this one. eu must face legacy of colonialism support colonialism and support reparations , say meps. good reparations, say meps. good news. it's the meps. you can all calm down because we're not in europe, so we can just walk away slowly from this story. no needs to be upset. so there's a claim that it needs to be urgently addressed and to do the classic steve on this and to be all mild and moderate about it, there are some that could

some proper questions that could be you ask the be asked. so you could ask the question about whether things in the have caused problems the past have caused problems for a nation's ability to progress. but even if that is the case, you do get to ask the question how far back do we go? do look rome having do you look at rome? rome having slaves , and do we get slaves, and then do we get reparations? then you ask slaves, and then do we get reptquestion, then you ask slaves, and then do we get reptquestion, are then you ask slaves, and then do we get reptquestion, are we| you ask slaves, and then do we get reptquestion, are we held ask slaves, and then do we get reptquestion, are we held back the question, are we held back by that's an easy by that? because that's an easy go argument. might be go to argument. so this might be about how much a nation's development was hindered by something. how do you put an amount on that? who gets paid? because if you were part of that nation, who benefited from it? you also be paying you should also be paying the reparations, are reparations, too. so there are so questions one so many questions that no one wants because people are in two camps. yeah, wants because people are in two ca should yeah, wants because people are in two ca should really yeah, wants because people are in two cashould really happen. yeah, it should really happen. >> i'm first one. one. >> one. >> of course you are. >> i'm in the this is ridiculous camp, steve, because i'm so sick of always of this nonsense. it's always just transatlantic just the transatlantic slavery, which we don't which we ended, which we don't get never like get credit for. it's never like you romans. it's never you say, the romans. it's never the ottoman empire with turkey coming an apology. coming through with an apology. and no one cares coming through with an apology. and the no one cares coming through with an apology. and the fact no one cares coming through with an apology. and the fact that no one cares coming through with an apology. and the fact that there's cares coming through with an apology. and the fact that there's more about the fact that there's more slaves ever. slaves alive today than ever. people mention and people don't mention china and the things like the uyghurs and things like this. bit,

this. they do a little bit, but it's always it's it's always this one. it's a kind of fetish. it's an anti—western fetish. just to say we were the only ones that committed were we were the only ones that cononlyad were we were the only ones that cononlyad that were we were the only ones that cononlyad that ended were we were the only ones that cononlyad that ended it./ere the only ones that ended it. >> not think being >> could you not think by being unwilling to have any of these questions discussed and consider them just ridiculous? them all to be just ridiculous? then anywhere then you don't get anywhere near getting then you don't get anywhere near getti|silly little corner where their silly little corner where they about that. thing. >> we've been discussing it for years and years. this question, that's we ever discussed in that's all we ever discussed in some is all that's all we ever discussed in someever is all that's all we ever discussed in someever study. is all that's all we ever discussed in someever study. i'm is all that's all we ever discussed in someever study. i'm just; all that's all we ever discussed in someever study. i'm just over they ever study. i'm just over it, i'm it, steve. i'm over. i'm not saying not over. obviously, saying i'm not over. obviously, it's bad we have gone it's a bad thing. we have gone overit it's a bad thing. we have gone over it much, haven't we? over it so much, haven't we? compared we're not worse compared and we're not worse than other we're than other nations. we're actually what actually better anyway. what do you is definitely bad. actually better anyway. what do youi'm is definitely bad. actually better anyway. what do youi'm sayingdefinitely bad. actually better anyway. what do youi'm saying that itely bad. actually better anyway. what do youi'm saying that i'm' bad. actually better anyway. what do youi'm saying that i'm agreeing >> i'm saying that i'm agreeing with all slavery is with you. i think all slavery is bad, just one specific. bad, not just one specific. >> i agree. africa almost >> no, i agree. africa is almost split down the centre. it's actually. it goes a bit actually. no, it goes a bit round, got of round, but you've got half of it. western colonialism it. is western colonialism and half middle eastern half of it is middle eastern colonialism and a slave trade that outnumbered the that certainly outnumbered the european slave trade . and it european slave trade. and it does get silly because i read through this and it does seem like europe's the only if like europe's the only thing, if anything, big headed to anything, is quite big headed to believe nothing would have happened it

happened without europe. it doesn't much. look doesn't change very much. look they're all dead. everyone who did it, everyone who was involved in this, they're over there. well, gone . i think there there. well, gone. i think there are some cases to say we should make adjustments when it comes to requirements for green policies and so on, that there are countries that need to catch up with the west and so on. and should be given a little bit more allowance because of it. but otherwise, no, it's all happened. should do is happened. well, we should do is learn the past to make learn from the past to make better understanding learn from the past to make better future. understanding for the future. >> all good. let's do the >> all right, good. let's do the telegraph. and trump has reassured he reassured anyone worried he might dictator might suddenly become a dictator by he totally would by saying, yes, he totally would carry . carry. >> e'- ? that he would . that's >> he said that he would. that's very , isn't it? so trump, very trump, isn't it? so trump, he's as typical of trump. he's decided to own it rather than say, no, i wouldn't as anybody else would. and that's good. there's too much denial in politics, you know. so he said that and it's kind of question when it at first when i read it at first wondered, what do you mean you're not going to be a dictator, are you? that's what.

hannity he says, no, dictator, are you? that's what. harno.' he says, no, dictator, are you? that's what. har no. other he says, no, dictator, are you? that's what. harno. other day says, no, dictator, are you? that's what. harno. other day one.. no, no, no. other than day one. yeah. i was wondering yeah. and i was wondering whether he meant on day one he's going to become a dictator. but then doesn't clear. then he doesn't make that clear. he that, i'm not he says after that, i'm not a dictator, only going to dictator, so he's only going to be for a day. and be a dictator for a day. and being trump, i don't think he's going much done in going to get that much done in one we're seeing one day. and we're seeing all kinds saying kinds of exaggerations saying this chavez. rodriguez this is julie chavez. rodriguez which is biden's campaign which is joe biden's campaign manager, saying he's been telling us exactly what he would do if he's re—elected. tonight, he be a dictator on he said he will be a dictator on day american americans day one. american americans should believe but if we're should believe him. but if we're going to believe him, then we have he's have to believe he said he's only do for one day. only going to do it for one day. >> these people total >> these people are total losers. joke. he said losers. it was a joke. he said it in front of a live audience. watch the clip. and he goes, he goes, day goes, he goes. except for day one. points out and one. and then he points out and he goes, he's going crazy. like it's it a big laugh. it's total. it gets a big laugh. >> left love dictators. >> the left love dictators. of course they course they do. they love dictators. should him dictators. they should like him even also there is an even more. and also there is an advantage. i don't like dictators, but there's an advantage to dictators is that the never the people in the country never get blamed for anything they do. yeah blame yeah because you blame the dictator, democracy dictator, whereas in a democracy

, country. , you blame the country. >> he'd be a >> well, i wish he'd be a dictator. i'd probably dictate some great stuff. but steve, i mean, look, is. joking. mean, look, it is. he's joking. this rosie this is a new only rosie o'donnell. he deflected o'donnell. remember he deflected that women only o'donnell. remember he deflected that o'donnell. women only o'donnell. remember he deflected that o'donnell. wliken only o'donnell. remember he deflected that o'donnell. wlike onlyy rosie o'donnell. he's like only on classic trump . on day one. it's classic trump. it's admittedly, if on day one. it's classic trump. it's take admittedly, if on day one. it's classic trump. it's take seriouslynittedly, if on day one. it's classic trump. it's take seriously ,ttedly, if on day one. it's classic trump. it's take seriously , it'sily, if you take it seriously, it's probably but he's probably chilling. but he's actually just joking. and it turns meant was he's turns out all he meant was he's going to close the border with mexico and going to drill mexico and he's going to drill for all meant. for oil. that's all he meant. >> no, definitely a >> so, no, it definitely is a joke. mean, although it is joke. i mean, although it is i suppose it's slightly worrying because not like dictators because it's not like dictators are giving power. are known for giving up power. so day. yeah it seems to so for one day. yeah it seems to me on day two about how much you still also still really love, they're also not their sense not really known for their sense of so there's, there's not many >> so there's, there's not many joking dictators was first. joking dictators was the first. >> i still i still think you're right this is a distraction for me. is georgia. me. the bigger worry is georgia. this to be this is a guy who wants to be able to call up and say, get me some votes. and if ever he gets in where he call in a situation where he can call up those votes, even if up and get those votes, even if you like trump, shouldn't you like trump, you shouldn't want that way want trump to win that way because the system because he's broken the system then. you then. and the next thing you know, potential know, some some potential president you like president that you don't like has same chance of making a

has the same chance of making a phone and the phone call and ruining the system. that is the big worry. >> well, to me, to serious >> well, to me, to get serious for i'm far more for a second, i'm far more concerned the biden concerned about the biden administration. concerned about the biden adnjanuary on. concerned about the biden adnjanuary 6th things. i mean, the january 6th things. i mean, there guy, they hit him there was one guy, they hit him with charge so harsh, this guy with a charge so harsh, this guy just the capitol, just wandered into the capitol, didn't break into anything, gave himself up to the fbi immediately. hit with immediately. they hit him with this for potential nine this charge for a potential nine years he actually years in jail. and he actually killed because killed himself because of the stress pressure to stress and pressure of that. to me, more like me, that's far more like a dictatorship, have say. dictatorship, i have to say. >> have you you just >> but have you have you just done a what about siri when talking being to talking about being able to rig elections ? elections? >> i don't mind doing a whataboutery whataboutery whataboutery it's a whataboutery saying actually, the democrats are projecting when they worry about dictatorship at are projecting when they worry aipoll dictatorship at are projecting when they worry aipoll recently hip at are projecting when they worry aipoll recently who's at are projecting when they worry aipoll recently who's more at a poll recently who's more dangerous states, dangerous to the united states, hamas fbi and had hamas or the fbi, and 92% had said i mean , i'm far said the fbi. i mean, i'm far more concerned about that than trump's banter. what i'm saying. >> yeah, the banter. yeah, this is just a joke. question is is just a joke. the question is where stops. because where the banter stops. because he's targeting he's also spoken about targeting his rivals he's his political rivals when he's re—elected. and he's described them promised to them as vermin and promised to deliver retribution and he hasn't said he's only going to do day. he could do that for one day. he could have with the retribution

thing. >> i it's quite moderate >> i think it's quite moderate that all i'm going do that he said all i'm going to do is and the border is drill and stop the border anyway. got to move on. anyway. we've got to move on. sadly on that sadly i could do all day on that story. do the mail. story. let's do the daily mail. an exercise is actually bad for you. by lewis you. this story by lewis schaefer. our schaefer. steve yeah, our resident expert exercise resident science expert exercise might you live longer. might not make you live longer. >> study debunks >> fascinating study debunks age old that well, you get old belief that well, you get you understand it, you exercise, you understand it, you exercise, you live longer, turns out you don't. if you exercise, you're less likely to smoke , less likely to drink, smoke, run, face first into traffic. all these bad things that are famous for killing you off sooner. famous for killing you off sooner . and that's what it sooner. and so that's what it is. is really annoying is. so this is really annoying because i've been running three times a flippin week. i'm terrible at running. and it turns out that not drinking would have been enough me. would have been enough for me. i did a check recently. the did a health check recently. the nhs go a nhs offered to go and do a health check and i've got an f i. i annoyed the nurse at how good my numbers were. i got like ace pressure. she actually ace blood pressure. she actually really ace blood pressure. she actually reaimine's high. >> mine's a bit high. >> mine's a bit high. >> but mine's the >> yeah, but mine's so on the numbers can't get numbers she went, i can't get much than that. sorry much better than that. sorry nurse upsetting you with nurse for upsetting you with my health. >> w— e was good till >> mine was. mine was good till i started working with lewis.

>> go on. imagine could do >> go on. imagine that. could do the she did me the thing. but she did tell me that lose weight. and that i should lose weight. and it classic thing where that i should lose weight. and it was classic thing where that i should lose weight. and it was huge, sic thing where that i should lose weight. and it was huge, reallyng where that i should lose weight. and it was huge, really difficult she was huge, really difficult to get. >> joe said that emily blunt got in trouble that. don't say in trouble for that. don't say she no. in trouble for that. don't say shewell, no. in trouble for that. don't say shewell, she no. in trouble for that. don't say shewell, she was). in trouble for that. don't say shewell, she was telling she >> well, but she was telling she was shaming me. yeah, right. was fat shaming me. yeah, right. >> not allowed to do >> and we're not allowed to do that. to do it. that. but nurses get to do it. >> was was based on >> her bmi was was based on what's bmi? what you what's your bmi? that's what you shouldn't at her bmi. shouldn't be looking at her bmi. the and don't mean the thing is and i don't mean the this whole thing is the number this whole thing is based on a false premise. >> exercise actually based on a false premise. >> intense ercise actually based on a false premise. >> intense exercise.:ually shorten intense exercise. i always your always thought, shorten your life, just it life, actually, you just do it because you the endorphins. because you like the endorphins. >> even saying the >> they're not even saying the exercise means that are exercise means that people are going healthy going to live a more healthy lifestyle. more other lifestyle. it's more the other way round. live way round. people live a healthier lifestyle, more healthier lifestyle, are more likely to exercise. but i've been for years. i been saying this for years. i mean, i'm easily influenced on exercise. oh, john exercise. i'd be like, oh, john doesn't he's still doesn't exercise and he's still alive. therefore don't need doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand therefore don't need doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand he 1erefore don't need doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand he could'e don't need doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand he could be don't need doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand he could be runningeed doesn't exercise and he's still aliiand he could be running at to. and he could be running at night. kind like night. i kind of feel like living greedy living longer is greedy anyway, and i see all these people running around all red faced and panting and i think, okay, you're live few years you're going to live a few years longer, would have spent you're going to live a few years lcfewr, would have spent you're going to live a few years lcfew years would have spent you're going to live a few years lcfew years of would have spent you're going to live a few years lcfew years of your|ld have spent you're going to live a few years lcfew years of your life|ave spent you're going to live a few years lcfew years of your life running�*nt a few years of your life running around red faced and panting. >> to

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welcome back to headliners. let's get straight into it with the mail and drug dealers finally joining the 21st century, steve. >> yeah, more drug dealers stick qr codes on lampposts as a tactic to sell their drugs and things near schools and i mean, i should have done this from my edinburgh show. these drug dealers don't stand around handing out flyers, do they? they've used modern thing. they've used the modern thing. so can qr so on lampposts you can see qr codes. it, it takes codes. if you scan it, it takes you a site that sells you to a site that then sells you to a site that then sells you some of their wares and also says that they're which i says that they're legal, which i think is interesting. you shouldn't trust what you see on the to parts guys shouldn't trust what you see on theis to parts guys shouldn't trust what you see on theis the to parts guys shouldn't trust what you see on theis the qr to parts guys shouldn't trust what you see on theis the qr t

it's not so literally illegal carry. >> i'm amazed this story didn't come to you. >> so they're putting these qr codes on lampposts and i think the idea now is to rid of the idea now is to get rid of lampposts. so that'll stop it. and you know, i think it's obviously not a great idea to do that. that's my edgy stance. there's one woman who she's she lost £13,000 after she scanned a qr code villains and stuck on a genuine sorry a genuine one at a railway station and she thought she was paying for parking, which you think at some point when she bought an ounce of parking that she would have realised something was wrong with this. and then she didn't end up paying for her parking because stoned . i've because she was stoned. i've added the i added that part of the story. i did what it said, did hear a parking what it said, but was very but parking was very pure though, uncut . though, and uncut. >> let's let's quickly do the telegraph the latest telegraph and the latest immigration mosquitoes immigration threat is mosquitoes . presumably coming over . presumably they're coming over on boats. carry. come on very small boats. carry. come on. that's good. you didn't even listen. >> i listen to you. i just

>> i did listen to you. ijust didn't react because didn't didn't react because he didn't deserve that much. the uk is expanding mosquito expanding a mosquito surveillance to counter growing threats dengue because we threats of dengue because we don't have dengue fever as a massive threat right now. but it's a chance. and so the infection coming in is aedes. our albopictus, which sounds like some sort of psychologic complex . i like some sort of psychologic complex. i don't like some sort of psychologic complex . i don't know. there's a complex. i don't know. there's a plan to put them in hotels and send them to rwanda . so i don't know. >> it's the same joke. he didn't like my version. he did a worse version. he claimed it was better. i mean, i did write one in advance, to be fair, but they planning on colonising the uk or not? >> they're planning on, but they're threatening they will do, should do, which we should have. they're to pay they're going to have to pay reparations in years to come. where it. reparations in years to come. wh�*we're it. reparations in years to come. wh�*we're currently it. reparations in years to come. wh�*we're currently too. reparations in years to come. wh�*we're currently too cold for >> we're currently too cold for the and i don't the mosquitoes and but i don't believe keep them out believe we can keep them out with government. anything believe we can keep them out witi it government. anything believe we can keep them out witi it willjovernment. anything believe we can keep them out witi it will affectment. anything believe we can keep them out witi it will affectmeiin anything believe we can keep them out witi it will affectmeiin 50 ything >> it will affect us in 50 years. apparently apparently, yeah. around, so i'm yeah. i won't be around, so i'm fine with that. >> at the moment it's >> right. and at the moment it's only france, is only affecting france, which is great. only affecting france, which is gre i:. say bedbugs. and now >> i would say bedbugs. and now

mosquito. only hopkins mosquito. if only katie hopkins would to would have waited till now to say swarms. away with it. say swarms. get away with it. >> have. right, >> she would have. all right, let's star and let's do the daily star and russia making superhuman russia are making superhuman athletes all rocky athletes proving that all rocky movies become reality. >> steve, this is a great story. russia making superhuman athletes drilling holes athletes without drilling holes into their heads . yeah, because into their heads. yeah, because why would you drill a hole? how does that help ? you need a you does that help? you need a you need that like a what's an example of something you don't need anyway? >> yeah, i find that weird. they said without drilling holes because the they mention it because the fact they mention it made were you drilling made me think. were you drilling holes people's heads? holes in people's heads? holes? yeah. holes in people's heads? holes? yeai. holes in people's heads? holes? yeai actually mentioned it >> i actually mentioned it several yeah totally. >> can't enough we are >> i can't stress enough we are not no holes in heads . not drilling no holes in heads. you're drilling. you're not drilling no holes in heads. you'saying drilling. you're not drilling no holes in heads. you'saying . drilling. you're just saying. >> we are not drilling >> yeah, we are not drilling holes heads. >> yeah, we are not drilling holtrumpeads. >> yeah, we are not drilling holtrump said he would drill, >> trump said he would drill, drill, day one. maybe drill, drill on day one. maybe that's meant. only that's what he meant. only one day, though. >> they use magnetic >> but it's they use magnetic stimulation to parts of the brain instead of drilling in there actual there and getting actual electrodes . it speeds up electrodes. and it speeds up some response time. at some brain response time. at some brain response time. at some olympics will be some point, the olympics will be all this. i can't do it. let's see superhumans my see what superhumans my favourite be favourite bit is says it will be good. favourite bit is says it will be goo it'll useful for people. >> it'll be useful for people. things figure

things like goalkeepers, figure skaters, swimmers. i'm thinking. or come or super soldiers. come on, let's . let's be honest. >> it will be super soldiers. i don't really understand athletics these are athletics anyway. these are people their people who do things all their lives that you only have to do three times a week according to doctors. an absolute waste. three times a week according to doc great an absolute waste. three times a week according to doc great a|let'solute waste. three times a week according to docgreat a|let's quickly|ste. three times a week according to docgreat a|let's quickly do. >> great point. let's quickly do the and luxury to the sun and the luxury way to spend the apocalypse, steve or kerry? is it steve? steve it's inside town. kerry? is it steve? steve it's insithese town. kerry? is it steve? steve it's insithese luxurious town. kerry? is it steve? steve it's insithese luxurious apocalypse >> these luxurious apocalypse ready. not preppers , as ready. they're not preppers, as it but they're prepared, it says, but they're prepared, which i think means they're preppers. it is. they've got 575 of these bunkers . it's preppers. it is. they've got 575 of these bunkers. it's in preppers. it is. they've got 575 of these bunkers . it's in south of these bunkers. it's in south dakota. they sound great. the cinema rooms in there . there's cinema rooms in there. there's all this. the only downside is you would have to repopulate the earth with preppers alex earth with preppers like alex jones types got bone broth. bit of downside that they're all americans. >> although i hope they're maga make apocalypse again make apocalypse great again and they stay for they they they can stay for a year without return to service a bit your life carry bit like your life carry anything on this in 18. >> of it. yeah yeah >> the idea of it. yeah yeah well yeah i mean i'm not quite sure do people get. sure how do people get. i haven't proper look haven't had a proper look through people get to go through how do people get to go there? it there? they have to spend is it costs for this or is

costs they apply for this or is it they need loads of money and if the apocalypse, they'll it they need loads of money and if �*dead)ocalypse, they'll it they need loads of money and if �*dead anyway. 3, they'll all be dead anyway. >> a nice idea. >> it's a nice idea. >> if we could send people. >> if we could send people. >> right, we've >> great idea. all right, we've got on that brilliant got to end on that brilliant idea.the got to end on that brilliant idea. the show is pretty much oven idea. the show is pretty much over, another over, but let's have another quick thursday's quick look at thursday's front pages one pages with basically that one story. has rewound. story. the times has rewound. the doomed, the bill is doomed, says jenrick, quits, the jenrick, as he quits, the guardian has tories in turmoil as immigration minister quits over rwanda. bill the financial times sunak strive to unite tories behind rwanda . bill tories behind rwanda. bill implodes jenrick quits as the implodes as jenrick quits as the i jemmett quits as sunak takes on tory right over immigration. the telegraph immigration minister quits as pm warned of electoral oblivion and the daily star pinocchio on the stand. i swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and they mean boris johnson. strangely, that is it for tonight's thanks to for tonight's show. thanks to stephen carey. headliners is back at 11 if back tomorrow at 11 pm. if you're watching a.m, then you're watching at 5 am, then stay for breakfast. good stay tuned for breakfast. good night. brighter with night. a brighter outlook with boxt sponsors of weather boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news.

on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast. it's been a cold, but for many bright day. however big changes take place overnight as increasingly wet and windy weather arrives from the west. atlantic areas of low pressure are moving in from the west, bringing weather fronts. bringing strengthening winds bringing increasingly wet, but also in places mild conditions. we start off with an early frost in the east, but as the cloud increases overnight, temperatures will actually rise through the night and we'll see that rain spread in as that rain bumps into the colder air. there'll be some hill snow over northern england . parts of northern england. parts of scotland well could affect scotland as well could affect some routes first thing some higher routes first thing thursday. but quickly thursday. but quite quickly through having seen through the day. having seen some and some snow some icy patches and some snow over hills , we'll see the over the hills, we'll see the mild sweep in across the uk , mild air sweep in across the uk, turning the rain to rain at all levels and actually it is going to be a soggy day for most of us with that rain heaviest in the

west. strengthening winds risk of gales for western scotland andifs of gales for western scotland and it's not going to feel very pleasant with temperatures of 5 to 7 celsius in the east, although double figures for the west as that milder air takes a hold. friday is a similar day with low pressure close by spiralling bands of rain or showers circulating around it. the wettest weather once again in the west, but those showers spreading most parts through spreading to most parts through the gusty winds but the afternoon. gusty winds but feeling milder in places feeling a bit milder in places as well . the weekend brings as well. the weekend brings further spells of rain and showers. also some drier interludes at times . interludes at times. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsor of weather on .

gb news, it's 9 pm. this is patrick christys tonight. >> and this show is about to blow the lid off what remains of rishi sunak's credibility mentioned rwanda and the people here in the camps just laugh. >> it's become a bit of a joke. the threat hasn't put them off because no one here thinks for a second they're heading back to rwanda. they make to rwanda. if they make it to the uk, we exclusive reveal the sheer volume of people waiting to cross the channel. >> is a running joke >> rwanda is a running joke amongst migrants and we amongst the migrants and we expose human traffickers expose the human traffickers tactics sunak the boats tactics sunak stop the boats policy hasn't made a blind bit of difference. immigration minister robert jenrick has resigned after suella braverman set out her ultimatum. >> and if the prime minister leads that fight, he has my total support . thank you