good morning. 9.30 on thursday, the 7th of december. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner a running joke. >> that's how the government's rwanda policy is viewed amongst channel migrants as gb news investigate mates. our home and security editor mark white has more . more. >> a key source in the camps in calais and dunkirk tells us that the migrant crisis is as bad as it's ever been in rwanda revolt. >> the immigration minister, robert jenrick , has quit his robert jenrick, has quit his post over the new deal, which he says won't work. >> this comes as the safety of rwanda bill will be introduced to parliament today. the government say it makes clear

that rwanda is a safe country where illegal migrants can be lawfully relocated . lawfully relocated. >> an electoral oblivion. that's what the former home secretary suella braverman, said in her resignation statement is she said if the rwanda legislation fails , let's have a listen to fails, let's have a listen to what she said. >> do we fight for sovereignty or do we let our party die .7 now, or do we let our party die.7 now, i may not have always found the right words in the past, madam deputy speaker , i refuse to sit deputy speaker, i refuse to sit by and allow us to fail. >> and boris johnson's showdown part two the former pm takes centre stage at the covid inquiry at 10:00 this morning. yesterday he apologised for the pain, the loss and the suffering and even fought back tears at one point. take a look . one point. take a look. >> we have to be realistic about 2020 the whole year , a whole 2020 the whole year, a whole tragic, tragic year. we did lockdown , but then it bounced lockdown, but then it bounced

back after we unlocked . an back after we unlocked. an emotional boris johnson kemeys coming for them. >> the equalities minister, kemi badenoch, has warned she's right. britain is in the grip of an epidemic of young gay children being told they're transgender. >> seeing, i would say , is >> seeing, i would say, is almost an epidemic of young gay children young, gay children being told that they are trans and being put on a medical pathway for irreversible decisions and they are regretting it . regretting it. >> that is what i'm doing for young lgbt children . i am making young lgbt children. i am making sure i am making sure that young people do not find themselves sterilised because they are being because they are being exploited by people who do not understand what these issues are good -- good for. >> kemi badenoch well said .

>> kemi badenoch well said. we've said that a few times, haven't we, on this show that actually a lot of the transgender debates are quite homophobic, essence. homophobic, in essence. nigel farage course , made it farage of course, made it through forjungle another through the for jungle another night. he got through to the next round. if you want to vote for him, your phone, scan for him, grab your phone, scan the qr code on the screen and download app. can vote download the app. you can vote for times a day for free. >> and i have every day because i've got the app . it's quite easy. >> is it the only app you've got.7 >> got? >> about three others . >> about three others. >> about three others. >> let us know your thoughts this morning on everything gbviews@gbnews.com is the email address. and how do you think nigel is doing in the jungle? first, though, here is your very latest sam francis . latest news with sam francis. >> bev thank you very much. good morning. it's 934. the headlines this hour. the prime minister is battling to unite his party as divisions have emerged over the emergency rwanda policy . emergency rwanda policy. immigration minister robert jenrick resigned last night,

saying he had strong disagreements with the government's approach to tackling migration . he says the tackling migration. he says the draft bill does not go far enough and it won't stop the boats. rishi sunak says in response that he's disappointed . response that he's disappointed. and it was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation . northern ireland the situation. northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris told us that jenrick drew the wrong conclusion . wrong conclusion. >> well, i actually think it's a great shame that robert has chosen to resign because he was in the process of delivering the tough , lowest illegal migration tough, lowest illegal migration policies that this country has ever seen . we have got a ever seen. we have got a complete package of legislation on that. robert has been helping to design over the course of time . and he was he was an time. and he was he was an excellent minister. and i'm really sad he's gone. >> boris johnson will face a second day of questioning at the covid inquiry today following his five hour hearing yesterday. the former prime minister is returning to hearing , having returning to the hearing, having been by crowds of been booed off by crowds of bereaved yesterday , the

bereaved families yesterday, the former prime minister admitted he should have twigged much sooner about the virus in the early days of the pandemic and he the pain and he apologised for the pain and the loss of victims . hundreds of the loss of victims. hundreds of campaigners have blocked access to a number of defence factories in the latest demonstrations against arms being sent to israel . the group says that the israel. the group says that the uk is complicit in harming israel , uk is complicit in harming israel, harming israel . the israel, harming israel. the group called workers for a free palestine say they've shut down access to four sites in glasgow , access to four sites in glasgow, bournemouth, lancashire and brighton . the factories produce brighton. the factories produce components for the f—35 fighter jet currently being used by the israeli military . it comes jet currently being used by the israeli military. it comes as israeli military. it comes as israel says it's on a mission to kill the leader of hamas. troops are understood to have surrounded his home in khan younis . the metropolitan police younis. the metropolitan police are calling on just stop oil campaigners to reach out to them as it reveals that policing the

activists has cost nearly £20 million. the force says that the group has refused to engage with police since its first protests in october of last year. scotland yard said the time spent on the group has equated to around 300 officers a day being taken off frontline policing across the capital. some £3.5 million has been spent since october of this year. trains to the country's busiest airport will be among services due to be due to continue walkouts by train drivers in their long running dispute over pay- their long running dispute over pay. members of the aslef union have been launching a rolling campaign of walkouts and a ban on overtime, causing travel chaos since last weekend. train drivers on crosscountry great western railway and the heathrow express are all affected. cross country, which stretches from aberdeen to penzance, will run no trains at all. aslef has been in dispute for more than 18 months over a pay offer worth 8% over the next two years . you can

over the next two years. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. gbnews.com now, though, more from andrew and . bev from andrew and. bev >> very good morning. it's 937. thank you for joining >> very good morning. it's 937. thank you forjoining us on thank you for joining us on britain's newsroom this morning. now andrew, did you see the clip? you don't know what i'm going to say yet. i did. of bbc newsreader maryam moshiri . it's newsreader maryam moshiri. it's gone viral. she was caught red handed reading the news on the bbc, giving the middle finger. have a look . have a look. >> live from london, this is bbc. >> and you see, that is contempt i >> -- >> oh, come on. >> it is on. we pay £159. 50 for the licence fee. they want to put it up 15. the biggest increase ever, which will take it to £173. and that's what she

thinks . she thinks to the thinks. she thinks to the viewers and the listeners, bbc up yours. >> she has made a statement this morning. right. saying first time she's probably said anything interesting in her life. said , hey, everyone life. so she said, hey, everyone , she said, which is always slightly like i'm in trouble. hey, everyone. yesterday, just before the top of the hour, i was joking around a bit with the team in the gallery. we do that . team in the gallery. we do that. i was pretending to count down as the director was counting me from including the from 10 to 0, including the fingers show the numbers. so fingers to show the numbers. so ten up rubbish to ten fingers held up rubbish to one. and he said, and when we got to one i turned the finger round as a joke and i did not realise it be caught on camera. it was a private and i'm so it was a private joke and i'm so sorry it went out air, sorry it went out on air, exclamation mark. not my exclamation mark. it was not my intention. on and on intention. she goes on and on and on. intention. she goes on and on ancyeah, on. intention. she goes on and on ancyeah, that's why when you're >> yeah, that's why when you're caughtin >> yeah, that's why when you're caught in the act, just put your hands up. >> don't think? >> yes, don't you think? >> yes, don't you think? >> think people are being >> but i think people are being quite mariam . let's quite harsh on mariam. let's just watch it more time. just watch it one more time. it's you missed it. it's a bit quick. you missed it. obviously we pixelated here. you go . live from london very long

go. live from london very long time, actually. >> probably the most interesting thing, probably most interesting on bbc news. and most people never heard of her and they won't hear her again. but won't hear of her again. but just don't be silly and say i was counting down courtney act. this is what she thinks. >> i mean, but for the >> i mean, there but for the grace god go any of us, grace of god go any of us, right? isn't the first time. it's the bbc been it's happened. the bbc have been caught handed with this. caught red handed with this. again, happened with again, it happened in 22 with weather presenter thomas chapman. remember this chapman. i do remember this detail possibly want. detail you could possibly want. >> thomas >> i've just seen thomas schafernaker preparing for it, so i'm not entirely. schafernaker preparing for it, so i'm not entirely . oh every so i'm not entirely. oh every now and then there's always one mistake that that is very funny. >> yeah, but come on. i mean, look, we, you know, we take our job very seriously here, but we do have a giggle from time to time. you have to. >> but we also take our viewers time. you have to. >> ilisteners so take our viewers time. you have to. >> ilisteners very ke our viewers time. you have to. >> ilisteners very seriously. wers and listeners very seriously. and not be giving them and we would not be giving them the know, the but we the know, the finger, but we love viewers and our listeners. >> we love them more and more of them we more more. them and we get more and more. i don't them and we get more and more. i dont she them and we get more and more. i don't she was doing that don't believe she was doing that to audience. it's

to the audience. i think it's a bit an extrapolation to take bit of an extrapolation to take her the crew her messing around with the crew as an indication that the bbc hate british hate the british public. >> cannot have >> but look, they cannot have that bloomin 15% pay rise, rise in the licence fee. i agree. cost of living crisis . remember cost of living crisis. remember the over 75? i used to get a free licence. yep. no longer. and the deal was which george osborne stood up when he was chancellor. dreadful man that it would you'd lose that licence would be you'd lose that licence in exchange cutting back in exchange for cutting back spending back. they spending cutting back. they never . well they've got never did. well they've got they've got a new on deal they've got a new on the deal bbc have got a chairman bbc have got a new chairman today they samir shah today haven't they in samir shah and actually was talking about and actually i was talking about this my teenagers this issue with my teenagers this issue with my teenagers this year and this week because we about and we were talking about it and they that they we were talking about it and they go that they we were talking about it and they go to that they we were talking about it and they go to prison that they we were talking about it and they go to prison forthat they we were talking about it and they go to prison for not they could go to prison for not paying could go to prison for not paying for content they paying for content that they don't or watch. don't want or watch. >> really what it is. >> and that's really what it is. and why the model is and that's why the model is outdated will never survive. >> actually, >> and actually, i don't think we should ever, ever criminalise people who don't pay the bbc. >> no, i agree. >> no, i agree. >> i agree not go prison. >> i agree not go to prison. should have to get should not have to get a licence. i mean, 2.8 million people now are not paying the licence who are watching tv

because they don't bother. because they just don't bother. well, not well, because they're not watching they're watching television, they're watching television, they're watching devices and watching it on other devices and it out of date and they've it is out of date and they've got another way forward. got to find another way forward. yeah, bloke yeah, they do. and this bloke they've appointed is just going to another tick box. what's to be another tick box. what's his name ? samir shah. tick the his name? samir shah. tick the box . box. >> but if you like gb news, do tell your friends to turn off the bbc and find us. so let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com moving on how. >> now. >> big story and it's in the hands of our very, very fabulous security editor . hands of our very, very fabulous security editor. home hands of our very, very fabulous security editor . home security, security editor. home security, home security. people smuggling operations. the government rwanda's policy has become apparently the butt of jokes amongst channel migrants. >> that's right. an exclusive interview. the source said that the threat of sending migrants to rwanda has not not deterred people from trying to reach the uk. and they're continuing to arrive in northern france in even greater numbers. this is what mark white found out . just what mark white found out. just days after french police cleared thousands of migrants in tents

from makeshift camps around calais and here along the rail track, south of dunkirk, they're back this time much further into the woodland . the woodland. >> multiple campsites far away from the spots . the police from the spots. the police regularly raid . we've spoken to regularly raid. we've spoken to a key contact who works in and around these camps and who has intimate knowledge of the people smuggling operations. he agreed to speak on the understanding we protect his identity. there are, he says, more people waiting to cross to the uk. both here and at locations further inland than at locations further inland than at any time since the small boat crisis began . and far from crisis began. and far from deterring crossings, the uk government's rwanda plan is a source of great amusement in these camps . these camps. >> mention rwanda and the people here in the camps just laugh. it's become a bit of a joke. the threat hasn't put them off because no one here thinks for a

second they're heading back to rwanda. if they make it to the uk. >> adamant the reason >> and he's adamant the reason the in small >> and he's adamant the reason the is in small >> and he's adamant the reason the is a in small >> and he's adamant the reason the is a bit in small >> and he's adamant the reason the is a bit lower in small >> and he's adamant the reason the is a bit lower than mall >> and he's adamant the reason the is a bit lower than last boats is a bit lower than last yearis boats is a bit lower than last year is down to the people smugglers themselves . who's smugglers themselves. who's controlling of small controlling the flow of small boat launches? drives up the pnces boat launches? drives up the prices and the gangs have become much more sophisticated in knowing when to launch . knowing when to launch. >> they've now linked into the met office data on weather patterns and tidal flows. if there's a weather window of a few hours, they know that. >> and he says they've even adopted the organise crime groups drug smuggling methodology where criminals will tip off authorities about one drugs mule to ensure others on the same route get through . the same route get through. >> they'll send ten boats out, leak the location of 1 or 2. the french police seize them and everyone's happy . they tell the everyone's happy. they tell the brits to stop in the boats on these meanwhile a bulk these beaches. meanwhile a bulk of those are getting through near dunkirk.

>> we filmed as this group of migrants boarded a bus to accommodation provided by the regional government. further inland. but these migrants will be back as soon as they get the nod from the smugglers that it's their turn to board a small boat . and you just need to head to the rail station in calais for evidence of more migrant arrivals. police on the platform teams can do little to stop them. this group of young men tell me they're from afghanistan, just off the train from belgium. they plan to camp around calais as they wait for their turn on a small boat. regional politician philippe emery is adamant the migrant crisis is worse now than it's ever been, and the regular police raids are simply theatre. >> it's only a policy of appearance. two, three, four months. we clear the place and the migrants are coming, coming

back again . for me, it's worse back again. for me, it's worse than ever . than ever. >> and just like the migrant here, he's completely dismissed of the british government's rwanda scheme. >> i think rwanda is a joke. >> i think rwanda is a joke. >> it's a joke . >> it's a joke. >> it's a joke. >> only a joke. only a joke . >> only a joke. only a joke. >> only a joke. only a joke. >> with the winter weather, the frequency of launches from these beachesis frequency of launches from these beaches is reducing , but the beaches is reducing, but the numbers in the camps will continue to swell until the next set of police raids. part of the never ending cycle of uk bound migrants flowing through northern france . and you will northern france. and you will keep trying to get to london. >> london? yes, i go to london tomorrow. >> we report on the other route to the uk as thousands of mainly african men who can't afford the price of a place on a boat and risk their lives trying to clamber aboard lorries . mark clamber aboard lorries. mark white gb news calais . white gb news calais. >> extraordinary .

>> extraordinary. >> extraordinary. >> mark white is with us now. mark that package is brilliant. the government keeps saying that the crossings are down by a third though. are right ? third though. are they right? >> yes, they are right in numbers terms, it's down by about a third on where we were at point last year. but at this point last year. but speaking to our source in the camps there, he says is that the reason is that the people smugglers themselves are controlling the flow of migrants onto these boats because then they create more demand, then they create more demand, then they can bump up the prices. there's a combination of that and we've had really pretty appalling weather over the last yeah appalling weather over the last year. what he says is it is absolutely not just down to government policy . government policy. >> so nothing to do with rwanda? no, no, not a deterrent effect. >> yeah. to be fair , when it was >> yeah. to be fair, when it was first announced a year and more than a year and a half ago by bofis than a year and a half ago by boris johnson, they were really quite concerned and they were talking, you know, about what would this mean. so there was initial concern had it got off the ground , then it might have

the ground, then it might have been deterrent . as the been a deterrent. but as the months have passed now, they just look upon it as a complete joke. >> they should have told the european court to get stuffed and plane the air. and put that plane in the air. thank mark. thank you, mark. >> got got to move >> we've got we've got to move on. to pack in on. we've got a lot to pack in the minister, robert the immigration minister, robert jenrick resigned shortly after a warning braverman warning from suella braverman yesterday tories yesterday that the tories are heading electoral oblivion. heading for electoral oblivion. ian rwanda fails. ian if the rwanda plan fails. >> our >> well, let's talk to our political chris hope, political editor, chris hope, who's westminster. who's in westminster. chris just as minister is hoping as the prime minister is hoping to get on the front foot after braverman robert jenrick resigned, you said yesterday that they were on resignation watch. you highlighted the fact genenc watch. you highlighted the fact generic go. you were right . generic go. you were right. >> yes. well, i want to be right for gb news viewers and for both you and andrew and bev. and right now, the pm's just been meeting his top team for a meeting his top team for a meeting of what to do next. he's got find an immigration got to find an immigration minister. the first minister. that's the first thing. many reshuffle for thing. many, many reshuffle for a weeks after the big one is a few weeks after the big one is never a good and then he's never a good look. and then he's got a four day effort to persuade tory mps to back his

rwanda despite the efforts rwanda bill. despite the efforts of suella braverman that of suella braverman to say that it's not good enough and needs to be improved . next week's to be improved. next week's vote monday tuesday is going to be monday or tuesday is going to be absolutely seismic for his his future as pm and the government. i expect the government to make it a vote of no confidence in the government. that means like a budget that any mps who a budget vote that any mps who vote against it are voting almost bring down the almost to bring down the government. they're trying to limit the number of right wing tory are to oppose tory mps who are going to oppose it. that's idea. but what it. that's the idea. but what will happen when they should win it? with handsome it? therefore with a handsome majority, need to do that majority, they need to do that andrew and bev to show the house of they can't water of lords that they can't water it when it goes the it down when it goes to the house of lords january and house of lords in january and hopefully statute hopefully be on the statute book by or may for the first by april or may for the first plane to take off next spring. that's the idea. but the right, i think, are really, really cross is very fractious. there's been three mass meetings so far. this week of these different groups on the right of the party. they're look, they've got their lawyers now looking at their own lawyers now looking at this treaty. they are telling me that made a of no

that if it's made a vote of no confidence next they confidence next week, they expect confidence expect letters of no confidence in pm's leadership to go in the pm's leadership to go in. that's to graham brady. remember, 53 letters go in. there's a vote of no confidence in rishi sunak's future as leader . that in rishi sunak's future as leader. that could happen by christmas. is extremely christmas. it is extremely febrile and said it was febrile yesterday. it's worse today . yesterday. it's worse today. >> wow. all right. brilliant. thank you, chris. chris hope there . did you just say could we there. did you just say could we go on by christmas? >> the letters would go >> well, the letters would go in. i don't think they're going to get to 53 letters. >> no. probably not. well, let's talk to former lib dem minister norman now. hi norman. norman baker now. hi norman. good morning . um, the role of good morning. um, the role of immigration minister now sits there vacant . i wouldn't have there vacant. i wouldn't have thought there'd be a huge queue of people wanting to step into those particularly difficult shoes. >> no, i think the people who might want to step into the shoes are the people rishi sunak wouldn't want to step into the shoes, to be perfectly honest with he's got this with you, because he's got this impossible balancing the impossible task of balancing the wings his party. you've got

wings of his party. you've got people who are people on one side who are determined to have these flights to take off, even we to rwanda. take off, even if we have to become international panahs have to become international pariahs the process on the pariahs in the process on the other end of the party, you've got people who horrified by got people who are horrified by the leaving the european the idea of leaving the european convention on human rights and who will see that as a red line over which to not cross. so over which to not to cross. so we've come up with this we've tried to come up with this what's skimmed what's called a semi skimmed answer which is answer in the middle, which is kind of balance it. but unfortunately, in unfortunately, if you start in the the road, you get the middle of the road, you get right over on it, though, isn't it, norman? right over on it, though, isn't it, because the labour and >> because the labour party and the your party have the lib dems, your party have got answer to the got absolute no answer to the problems the numbers of problems of the numbers of people channel people crossing the channel every also how many every day. and also how many people are coming here legally. what it, 700,000 last year ? what was it, 700,000 last year? yeah >> so look, i mean, i'm not here to defend either the lib dems or heaven for the labour party, but the reality is there is a very difficult situation which is built many decades. built up over many decades. and the which not the answer to which are not immediate, there's the answer to which are not immediate,there's immediate immediate, there's no immediate solution you're solution to this, but you're right, pick up right, andrew, to pick up the point that legal migration is a far bigger issue in numerical

terms than small boats because of a million, which is three times what it was at brexit. it is the is the official legal figure and actually the small boats figure in that comparison is dwarfed of course, when we talk about the three quarter million. >> norman, what we should what we i think we should really say is actually the figure , the is actually the figure, the number of people who came into britain 12 months britain in the last 12 months was 1.2 million. that is a major city. and that's probably going to happen again in the following yeanin to happen again in the following year, in my view . far too much year, in my view. far too much going to cause huge problems with the nhs. social cohesion and problems with schools, problems with housing and but the figure is slightly offset by the figure is slightly offset by the of people leaving the the number of people leaving the country. probably the number of people leaving the countryyoung probably the number of people leaving the countryyoung people,ybably the number of people leaving the countryyoung people, party the number of people leaving the countryyoung people, part of the young, young people, part of the brain drain who are leaving . brain drain who are leaving. >> i think that's exactly right. and it works both ways because clearly there are more pressures on public services from people coming in. as you rightly say. but it's also the case that many of people in are of the people coming in are people the nhs and social care

depends on, because over decades we've failed to train people to fill these public service roles or pay them properly to do so. and we've now become an agriculture system without dependent upon foreign workers, which is why the treasury is very reluctant to see caps on immigration coming in. >> i was listening to some inferior media outlets yesterday , norman. why? just to see what the competition is up to. and it was rubbish. no competition. i can't lie. but they were debating norman about whether the british public even really care about immigration and whether, you know, the politicians are all wrapped up in this. but actually the british public are more worried about the cost of living and getting an appointment with their gp and actually maybe the british want more british public want more immigration and so that we have more and more doctors. more nurses and more doctors. what's assessment of that what's your assessment of that situation ? situation? >> my assessment is there is probably 10% of the population who are extremely concerned about the levels of migration into this country, particularly

into this country, particularly in areas where there's a concentration of workers. i mean, there was a couple of places in essex where effectively the population had been mini sized when a huge number of poles under the eu days have come into those particular areas. so that's a concern for those. but i think generally it is the case that people do look at their energy bills, they do look at the cost of living. they worried of living. they are worried about at the not being able about at the nhs not being able to cope properly. and are to cope properly. and there are issues probably in every election, andrew you will election, as andrew you will know, the nhs and the economy are probably one and two at every election. >> okay, interesting . thank you, >> okay, interesting. thank you, norman. norman baker , former lib norman. norman baker, former lib dem minister in the in the coalition. >> i think people particularly watching this programme, listening to programme are hugely concerned about people crossing and they see people crossing and they see people crossing the channel. i think this got no this government has got no power. yeah, they've lost control. >> let us know what think. >> let us know what you think. any now, former prime any minute now, the former prime minister at covid minister will be at the covid inquiry don't anywhere. minister will be at the covid inqu don't anywhere. minister will be at the covid inqa brighter anywhere. minister will be at the covid inqa brighter outlookhere. minister will be at the covid inqa brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> hello. very good morning to a big contrast across the uk . big contrast across the uk. first thing today, there's some hill snow and some icy patches for parts of scotland and northern england. outbreaks of rain and mild air moving in elsewhere. it's particularly wet for northern ireland, parts of wales and southwest england through the morning. but there are outbreaks of rain just about anywhere . and any hills, though, anywhere. and any hills, though, in north, that quickly in the north, well that quickly turns rain as the milder turns back to rain as the milder air spreads across the country, although it's not going to feel mild wind the rain mild with the wind and the rain and temperatures of just 5 to 7 celsius in the north and the east. meanwhile, we're looking at 11 to 13 towards the south—west and some brighter skies by the end of the day for northern ireland. but the rain is to build up over some is going to build up over some of these western hills and even across central and eastern parts as well, where we've so much as well, where we've had so much rain recently, it could be some issues through the because issues through the day because of additional weather. of this additional wet weather. any does through

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10:00 on thursday, the 7th of december. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> the rwanda revolt . the >> the rwanda revolt. the immigration minister, robert jenrick quit his job over the new robert who i hear you new deal. robert who i hear you cry at and electoral oblivion . cry at and electoral oblivion. >> that's what the former home secretary, suella braverman, said. the conservatives are headed for. if the rwanda legislation fails. let's take a listen . listen. >> fight for sovereignty or do we let our party die ? now, i may we let our party die? now, i may not have always found the right words in the past, madam deputy speaken words in the past, madam deputy speaker, i refuse to sit by and allow us to fail. interesting kemi's coming for them. >> the equalities minister, kemi badenoch, gave a stark warning about young people and trans gender issues . gender issues. >> seeing i would say almost an epidemic of young gay children ,

epidemic of young gay children, young gay children being told that they are trans and being put on a medical pathway for irreversible decisions and they are regretting it . that is what are regretting it. that is what i'm doing for young lgbt children. i am making sure i am making sure that young people do not find themselves sterilised because they are being because they are being exploited by people who do not understand what these issues are . what these issues are. >> for her. and caught red handed a video has gone viral showing a bbc news anchor flashing her middle finger as she opens a bulletin. take a look . live from london this she opens a bulletin. take a look. live from london this is bbc charming. >> hey , charming. that's what >> hey, charming. that's what the bbc think about the licence payers. and they're trying to get a 15% increase in your licence. don't forget. >> and boris johnson's showdown part two. the former pm takes centre stage at the covid inquiry. any minute now. our political olivia

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great shame that robert has chosen to resign because he was in the process of delivering the toughest . in the process of delivering the toughest. illegal migration policies that this country has ever seen. we have got a complete package of legislation that robert has been helping to design over the course of time and he was he was an excellent minister. and i'm really sad he's gone. >> well, labour's campaign coordinator , pat mcfadden, says coordinator, pat mcfadden, says that the government's making the wrong moves . wrong moves. >> we've sent more home secretaries to rwanda than we have asylum seekers and we spent £140 million and probably more. they're going to bring out more figures next year, but they won't tell us at the moment. so we've spent a lot of money on this and that money could have been used to go after the criminal are criminal gangs who are organising active duty in organising this active duty in the first place. so the scheme isn't working. this is actually not the first bill on this. this is the third bill on this in two

years . years. >> and we're just hearing that the prime minister is due to hold a news conference at 11:00 this morning, which we will bnng this morning, which we will bring you live here on gb news. meanwhile, boris johnson is set to face a second day of questioning at the covid inquiry following his five hour hearing yesterday , the former prime yesterday, the former prime minister is returning to the hearing, having been booed off by of bereaved families by crowds of bereaved families as he yesterday , the former as he left yesterday, the former prime minister admitted at the heanng prime minister admitted at the hearing that he have hearing that he should have twigged sooner about the twigged much sooner about the virus early days the virus in the early days of the pandemic and apologised for pandemic and he apologised for the pain and the loss of victims . in the last hour it's been confirmed that rishi sunak will be about his actions be questioned about his actions dunng be questioned about his actions during the pandemic. at the heanng during the pandemic. at the hearing monday , hundreds of hearing on monday, hundreds of campaigners have blocked access to a number of defence factories in the latest demonstration against arms being sent to israel . there the uk against arms being sent to israel. there the uk is complicit in israel's arming

israel . israel. >> the group called workers for a free palestine say they've shut down access to four sites across the uk. >> one in glasgow, bournemouth, lancashire and in brighton. the factories produce components for the f—35 fighter jet that's currently being used by the israeli military. it comes as israeli military. it comes as israel says it's on a mission to kill the leader of hamas. troops are understood to have surrounded his home in khan younis , a bomb disposal bomb younis, a bomb disposal bomb disposal squad is investigating a suspicious item that was found in a house in north west england. cumbria police have declared a major incident after they discovered the item yesterday afternoon . a yesterday afternoon. a multi—agency operation remains ongoing after 53 homes have had to be evacuated . and a 46 year to be evacuated. and a 46 year old man was arrested and is being held in custody . the being held in custody. the metropolitan police are calling on just stop oil campaigners to reach out to them as it reveals that policing the activists has cost nearly £20 million. the force says that the group has

refused to engage with police since its first protest in october of last year. scotland yard said the time spent on the group equated to around 300 officers per day, being taken out of frontline policing across the capital, £3.5 million has been spent since october this year. been spent since october this year . to been spent since october this year. to veins to the country's busiest airport have been disrupted today as walkouts by train drivers continue . members train drivers continue. members of the aslef union have launched a programme of strikes in their long running dispute over pay drivers on crosscountry great western railway and the heathrow express are all affected. crosscountry which operates the stretch from aberdeen to penzance , the longest stretch of penzance, the longest stretch of rail in the uk has no trains running at all today. aslef has beenin running at all today. aslef has been in the dispute for more than 18 months over a pay offer worth 8% over two years and the high court has been told that prince harry was singled out and treated less than favourably than others over his police

protection . the duke of sussex protection. the duke of sussex is taking legal action against the decision in 2020 that he wouldn't get the same personal security when he and his family visited the uk. the home secretary argues that his position changed, though, when he stepped from his royal he stepped back from his royal dufies he stepped back from his royal duties 2020. the hearing, duties in 2020. the hearing, which is due to end today, is one of five legal cases that the prince harry has pending in the high court . prince harry has pending in the high court. this prince harry has pending in the high court . this is gb news, high court. this is gb news, where across the uk on your tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. now though more from andrew and . bev though more from andrew and. bev >> thank you, sam. >> thank you, sam. >> so we're going to get a press conference a little later from the prime minister. presumably, he's got to try and stamp his authority on the party. the government , after the government, after the immigration minister resigned , immigration minister resigned, robert jenrick robert, who most people are saying we're going to go to our political go first to our political edhon go first to our political editor, christopher who's go first to our political ed downing.topher who's go first to our political ed downing street. who's

go first to our political ed downing street. chris who's education? >> yes , andrew and bev we can >> yes, andrew and bev we can now reveal that there will be a press conference this . we're press conference this. we're seeing that, i think i think that's vicky atkins going into the office there into into number 10 downing street. yes, we can reveal on gb news that there will be press conference there will be a press conference here downing street at 11:00 here in downing street at 11:00 today. beginning. today. that's the beginning. as i earlier, of effort i said earlier, of this effort by convince tory by rishi sunak to convince tory mps bought his rwanda mps to support bought his rwanda bill crucial vote next week bill in a crucial vote next week in the house of commons. his leadership in the future as pm will hang on the votes next week. if they can get this through with big numbers, it means they've got more chance of getting through getting the bill through the house and wait see house of lords and wait and see how out. the big how that plays out. the big concern lords will try concern is that lords will try and it. it's very and frustrate it. it's very likely the government will make it into a of confidence it into a vote of no confidence like a budget vote in the government turn, i'm government and that in turn, i'm told a right wing tory mp told by a right wing tory mp today, could lead to a vote of no in his leadership. no confidence in his leadership. and could that could lead and that could that could lead to it's very to a further vote. it's very complicated number complicated here in number 10.

this very perilous for this week is very perilous for the prime minister. andrew and bev. >> all right, that's chris. we've got in studio a tory we've got in the studio a tory mp will be voting in that mp who will be voting in that confidence or on the bill. confidence vote or on the bill. you've got it in front of you. i have.is you've got it in front of you. i have. is it so bad that the immigration minister, robert jenrick , had to resign? jenrick, had to resign? >> no, i think the bill is very good. it delivers everything really that people have been asking for. i what people asking for. i think what people have the whole have been saying about the whole rwanda thing is we want stop rwanda thing is we want to stop leftie courts, leftie lawyers. the courts, international , stopping international courts, stopping us what to do us from doing what we want to do . as far as . well, this bill, as far as i can delivers pretty much can see, delivers pretty much everything people have everything that people have asked for. says that it's asked for. it says that it's recognised parliament asked for. it says that it's recogn united parliament asked for. it says that it's recognunited kingdom'liament asked for. it says that it's recognunited kingdom isiment of the united kingdom is sovereign and the validity of the unaffected by the act is unaffected by international every international law. every decision maker must treat the repubuc decision maker must treat the republic of rwanda as a safe country , and a decision maker is country, and a decision maker is defined as a secretary of state, an officer or a an immigration officer or a court or tribunal , suella court or tribunal, suella braverman said . she wanted, braverman said. she wanted, notwithstanding clauses to make sure that other things didn't weren't included in here. clause two this bill applies notwithstanding any provisions

of the human rights act 1998 or any other provision of other domestic law or any interpretation of international law by a court or tribunal . anl law by a court or tribunal. anl and it says here, when it talks about the european court of human rights and they make interim measures to say somebody can't be deported because interim measures to say somebody can't begot ported because interim measures to say somebody can't begotpoclaim,ecause interim measures to say somebody can't begot po claim,eca says interim measures to say somebody can'texplicitly:laim,eca says interim measures to say somebody can'texplicitly it|im,eca says interim measures to say somebody can'texplicitly it is|,eca says interim measures to say somebody can'texplicitly it is forasays interim measures to say somebody can'texplicitly it is for aays here explicitly it is for a minister of the crown and only a minister of the crown and only a minister of the crown and only a minister of the crown to decide whether the united kingdom will comply with that measure. >> even if the >> so that is saying even if the european court says the plane can't go to rwanda or to hell, we're going we're going to ignore it. >> it says that the courts can't stop says that lefty stop it. it says that lefty lawyers stop it. it says stop it. it says that lefty lawyany stop it. it says stop it. it says that lefty lawyany internationalit says stop it. it says that lefty lawyany international law ys stop it. it says that lefty lawyany international law or that any international law or any of legislation any other piece of legislation anywhere can't wanted jenrick want. >> then what? >> then what? >> well, i don't know. i mean, i really don't understand this. i mean, the prime minister was pretty much delivered. i mean, this piece of this is as tough a piece of legislation on immigration that you likely to see anywhere. >> why haven't we seen it before then? >> well , i then? >> well, i mean, i think that the government were going i mean, sunak, you've the government were going i

metto sunak, you've the government were going i metto remember, unak, you've the government were going i metto remember, he|k, you've the government were going i metto remember, he inherited got to remember, he inherited this problem. he didn't create the problem the he the problem of the boats. he inherited and when inherited this problem. and when he power, the boris he came into power, the boris johnson and suella johnson strategy and suella braverman, she was the attorney general at the time, had got this proposal, which was the illegal migration bill. and he sort of inherited that and that took its course and that failed in courts . so he's in the in the courts. so he's now back of that, now on the back of that, introduced what all of have introduced what all of us have been asking for, as far as i can see, don't see how anybody see, i don't see how anybody could expect to could reasonably expect him to have further than have gone any further than that's this bill. that's in this bill. >> this get through the >> but will this get through the supreme court? philip >> think has does >> i don't think it has to, does it? well, i know it doesn't have to. >> and lord sumption made >> and lord sumption has made clear if government is clear that if the government is parliament's is a parliament's xl bully is a former court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forr he's court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, heige. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, he said if >> he's a, you know, he said if parliament is explicit and he read bill and said that read the bill and said that looks clear me. looks pretty clear to me. >> anything the >> i can't see anything the court to stop it, because court can do to stop it, because ultimately supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is sayingsupreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is saying torreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is saying to the e and parliament is saying to the courts, you've got no basis for turning quickly then, if this >> so how quickly then, if this goes vote week, goes through, vote next week, how quickly can we get the planes in the air to rwanda? >> well, that's the difficult

bit it's got bit because, of course, it's got to the house of lords to go through the house of lords as well. and of course, the government have government doesn't have a majority of lords. majority in the house of lords. so that's i mean, there's nothing that the government can do and this do about the fact and this wasn't the manifesto, you wasn't in the manifesto, so you can't parliament act can't use the parliament act which you can't use the parliament act which use you can't use the parliament act which use the you can't use the parliament act which use the parliament, you can't use the parliament act which use the parliament, butu could use the parliament, but you use parliament act you can't use the parliament act until next session of until to the next session of parliament then it's parliament and then it's too late. what the prime late. so what the what the prime minister saying, quite minister is saying, quite rightly, came before the rightly, and he came before the 1922 night and he 1922 committee last night and he was , to perfectly was fantastic, to be perfectly honest. and what he's saying is that we've got to get behind that we've all got to get behind this. got to this this. we've got to pass this with big majority as with as big a majority as possible. in effect, we say possible. so in effect, we say to the unelected house of lords, please in please do not dare stand in the way what the elected house way of what the elected house wants what the wants and what clearly the british people. still british people. i'm still baffled as if he can do this how. >> now. >> why has this not been done before? think if before? and i think if i misunderstood, if i understood correctly , phil, is that he's correctly, phil, is that he's tried to go through the legal process as as one might expect, a sort of democracy to adhere to. it hasn't worked. so he's

overridden the supreme court with this bill, and therefore, that would have been an unpopular thing to do amongst who, like if he'd done this soonen who, like if he'd done this sooner, who would he have drawn? criticism from? >> well, i don't think he could have done it any sooner because of the illegal migration bill and the rwanda policy that went to the court was not his policy. it was the he it was it was the policy he inherited from boris johnson and suella braverman. she was the attorney under boris johnson. >> but why didn't they it? >> but why didn't they do it? well a that's a well now, that is a that's a more interesting question. >> they didn't braverman say these been >> they didn't braverman say these before been >> they didn't braverman say these before it been >> they didn't braverman say these before it went been >> they didn't braverman say these before it went to been >> they didn't braverman say these before it went to the yeen done before it went to the supreme court. >> some of this stuff should have been done. and yes, it should. did rishi block it? >> obviously, i don't >> well, obviously, i don't know any internal discussions, but all that that path all i do know is that that path was started under boris johnson when suella was the attorney general. now i don't know what advice suella braverman gave to bofis advice suella braverman gave to boris johnson. obviously either because the attorney general's advice is secret, but does advice is secret, but it does beg question in that bev beg the question in that bev pose, which i think he's a reasonable one, which is why did

the conservative government earlier not do something as as draconian as this? >> someone saying earlier in the program, i've forgotten who it was, maybe 10% care about was, maybe 10% really care about this think it's much this issue. i think it's much higher. >> it is much higher and it's certainly much, much higher. i agree. than agree. it's much higher than that. is that. and it certainly is amongst who amongst people who voted conservative it's conservative in in 2019. it's much higher than that. we've got to this out. there is to get this sorted out. there is no the conservative no path to the conservative party winning an election without sorting out both legal and illegal immigration. but the fact of the matter is, is that my colleagues mustn't be so self indulgent. if this delivers 95% of what they want, then they should celebrate that rather than complain about 5% that it doesn't. and what we owe the country is to put the pressure on the labour party because they're going to do no policy at all. they're going to do nothing about this. they're going to let more people in they're not more people in and they're not going no. going to deport anybody. no. >> sunak is doing a >> so rishi sunak is doing a press at 11. so do we press conference at 11. so do we presume that's going to be about this? >> i would imagine so. it'd be this? >>extraordinary1ine so. it'd be this?

>> extraordinary ifie so. it'd be this? >> extraordinary if it so. it'd be this? >> extraordinary if it wasn't. be be extraordinary if it wasn't. yeah i'm pretty sure it's about this. explain what this. and to explain what he's doing why doing and doing and why he's doing it and why this the most robust why this is the most robust piece legislation piece of legislation on immigration ever immigration that we've ever seen in country. in this country. >> jenrick resignation >> robert jenrick resignation is like earthquake in peru. like a small earthquake in peru. nobody dead. frankly, it's made no impact particularly, has it. most people say, robert, who he wasn't even in the cabinet. >> well, he attended cabinet. i mean, but look, it's disappointing because we should all be we should all be united behind this. this is delivering really what conservatives have been asking for. and it will be much better if we were actually all united behind this and taking the fight to labour and say, look, you're going to do nothing deporting anybody say, look, you're going to do nothinthan deporting anybody say, look, you're going to do nothinthan debating ing anybody say, look, you're going to do nothinthan debating ing these dy rather than debating all these things would we things amongst us. why would we squabble ourselves squabble amongst ourselves when we've sort this out and we've got to sort this out and prevent the disaster of a labour government literally government who would literally deport got their way? >> well, he's on leadership manoeuvres , isn't he? another manoeuvres, isn't he? another one. well perhaps derek is. >> yeah. you'll have one. you'd have to have crowded that field isn't it. it is. well there's no vacancy and actually there's no

prospect any vacancies to be prospect of any vacancies to be perfectly honest. so it's beholden on all of us to get behind the prime minister and take labour party. >> and this is you, the serial maverick on the backbenches . maverick on the backbenches. yeah, you probably voted against tory leaders more times than anybody else in the backbenches, haven't haven't. i have my >> i probably haven't. i have my disagreements rishi disagreements with rishi sunak as don't as well. don't you? don't. don't don't. about don't. don't you worry about that. look, have them that. but look, let's have them in private. our in private. let's have our disagreements in private. let's put a united on to the put a united front on to the public. and because we owe it to the country, i if you're concerned about immigration as i am, absolutely am, and we am, as i absolutely am, and we may have to more may even have to be more draconian then only we are going to sort this problem out. can i, keir starmer gets in. no one will be deported. >> just a quick word. we miss her very much here. your misses estimate. is getting estimate. how is she getting on? >> yeah, getting on very >> yeah, she's getting on very well. very well. she's getting on very well. she's getting on very well. her shoulder well. she's putting her shoulder to the wheel and trying to make sure government, to the wheel and trying to make sure the government, to the wheel and trying to make sure the gythings ent, to the wheel and trying to make sure the gythings it's amplifies the good things it's doing and squashes anything that's good. that's not so good. >> bet she cheered. what >> and i bet she cheered. what kemi badenoch said in the commons yesterday about this

epidemic of gay kids being epidemic of young gay kids being told they're trans and being fed all these terrible pills to change their bodies. >> we all cheered. what kemi badenoch the chamber badenoch said in the chamber yesterday fantastic. yesterday. fantastic. >> on the labour benches. well, they certainly >> well, no, they certainly didn't . but it needed saying and didn't. but it needed saying and good for saying it good for her for saying it because actually we've had so much political correctness about this subject so long. people this subject for so long. people have away from saying it have shied away from saying it and good for her for standing up and good for her for standing up and just fell. and saying it and just fell. >> just last word for you on >> just one last word for you on bofis >> just one last word for you on boris covid inquiry boris at the covid inquiry yesterday. presume didn't yesterday. i presume you didn't sit whole six sit through the whole six torturous it was torturous hours of it. it was riveting infuriating riveting and it is infuriating to watch, isn't it? but why does it anger you? it angers everybody for different reasons. why? why does it make blood why? why does it make your blood boil a little? >> well, angers because >> well, it angers me because i was against all the lockdowns. i voted against all the restrictions. was obvious voted against all the restrit:ions. was obvious voted against all the restrit was. was obvious voted against all the restrit was going s obvious voted against all the restrit was going to bvious voted against all the restrit was going to be ous that it was going to be economically disastrous. it's been disastrous for mental health, for educational attainment . all these things attainment. all of these things were predictable. were entirely predictable. people all with people are saying it's all with hindsight, about hindsight, we were warning about these the these things at the time. the few of us who were voting against warning about against it were warning about

these time, we these things at the time, and we were were were pooh poohed. we were vilified for raising them and the infuriating thing is actually is that it seems clear to me that boris actually had the right instincts about this . the right instincts about this. and he was the prime minister and he was the prime minister and what what really frustrates me is that he was he seemed too weak . he was me is that he was he seemed too weak. he was to me is that he was he seemed too weak . he was to actually me is that he was he seemed too weak. he was to actually impose his steamroller by people like dominic cummings and matt hancock. but he was the prime minister he was. and he and he was and he also was also and he was also steamrollered the media. steamrollered by by the media. >> he was steamrolled. his father that you know, father said that here you know, there about there was so much pressure about every their life every person who lost their life to covid. the pressure was amping up the sentimentality around it. i mean, were around it. i mean, we were looking at of the posters looking at some of the posters of there today and they of people there today and they were and were in the were saying and they were in the papers, they, papers, aren't they, boris? bofis papers, aren't they, boris? boris dad, dad, boris boris killed my dad, dad, boris didn't . i didn't kill their dad. i understand that grief is difficult and it's always the anger has to go somewhere. when you lose someone look to you lose someone and you look to blame of the blame someone, it's part of the bereavement process, but it's completely unfair to say that bofis completely unfair to say that boris those people. when boris killed those people. when people talk about lockdowns, phil, because you'll get this as

i lot and they'll say, yes, i do a lot and they'll say, yes, but saved. they saved but they saved. they saved millions no millions of lives. there's no evidence at all, evidence for that at all, is there? >> t- t— there? >> didn't save millions >> no, they didn't save millions of lives. they just pushed problems further down the line. that's that's all that they did. and issues. and caused other issues. >> people nhs >> 7.5 million people on the nhs waiting list. >> exactly. how many people waiting list. >> losing'. how many people waiting list. >> losing their how many people waiting list. >> losing their lives many people waiting list. >> losing their lives because ople are losing their lives because their cancer diagnosed in their cancer wasn't diagnosed in time things that. it's time and things like that. it's they at just just through they looked at just just through one it's unforgivable one prism and it's unforgivable that politicians did that . all that politicians did that. all of this was entirely predictable . and the tragedy is that boris had the right instincts and he didn't he didn't follow them through. and that's that's the real that's the real tragedy of the whole situation. >> he didn't have the courage of his convictions at all, did he, at that ? at that? >> and the other thing, i mean, there was a massive failing of there was a massive failing of the gb news had the media. if only gb news had been actually the been around actually at the start of pandemic, that it start of the pandemic, that it would very, very would have been very, very different, yeah. but different, i think. yeah. but the government were to fault as different, i think. yeah. but the gbecause�*nt were to fault as different, i think. yeah. but the gbecause�*nt we|they fault as different, i think. yeah. but the gbecause�*nt we|they were as well because when they were telling people how many people had was no had died each day, there was no context those figures. they context to those figures. they didn't many people die

didn't say how many people die in country every in this country every day anyway, could look at anyway, so people could look at those in context. and those figures in context. and the age. the average age the average age. the average age exactly. was propaganda from the government . it perpetuated by government. it perpetuated by the media. it was a huge failing of the media, not to properly scrutinise the government. >> one the most disturbing >> one of the most disturbing bits me yesterday was when bits for me yesterday was when hugo kc going through hugo keith kc was going through the figures he said to boris the figures and he said to boris johnson, at this point, the infection 2. infection fatality rate was 2. the infection fatality rate was never over 2. it was between 0.1 and 0.5, depending on your age and 0.5, depending on your age and where you lived, etcetera. multifaceted contributed conditions. so i my feeling is if you go keith is going off the wrong data because it's always been about the data for me, this whole thing is flawed because yes, you might say, well, if 2% of people were going to die from covid, perhaps lockdowns covid, then perhaps lockdowns weren't just weren't necessary. he's just got the information has the wrong information he has because whitty gave because chris whitty gave a briefing the summer briefing to mps in the summer of 2020 made abundantly 2020 when he made it abundantly clear the

clear in that briefing that the death rate for people with covid was between , he said the was between, he said at the time, between nought point three and it was somewhere in and 0.7, it was somewhere in between and that the average age of people dying was 82, which was above the, the life expectancy in the uk. >> they knew that in the summer of 2020 this wasn't stuff that's only just been found out recently. he gave a briefing to mps that effect back then. so mps to that effect back then. so how on earth you could justify a blanket lockdown knowing that information and then a second . information and then a second. >> and then another one and then a second. >> completely unacceptable >> it's completely unacceptable what that what happened. and i think that lockdown down history lockdown will go down in history as the worst piece of public policy ever to be inflicted on this country. >> i agree. i agree. anyway, thanks, phil, great to see you. >> fascinating. now, still to come, the equalities minister, >> fascinating. now, still to come badenoch. ities minister, >> fascinating. now, still to come badenoch. ities ivcheering kemi badenoch. we're cheering her gb news, issuing a her here on gb news, issuing a stark about people stark warning about young people and we'll have all and trans issues. we'll have all the details .

the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . mornings from 930 on gb news is. >> this is britain's newsroom andrews just eating his croissant. you can finish it. you must. you've got some other side of your mouth here. just sorry. dickens was a little bit quickly there, but there was no middle because we're middle finger because we're not the no. don't know the bbc. no. if you don't know what we're talking about, this is it's gone viral. a news is it's gone viral. a bbc news presenter put one finger up presenter who put one finger up to just the team she was talking to just the team she was talking to like him to and everyone like him contempt for license players . my

contempt for license players. my view you've been getting in touch john said if touch at home. john has said if this legislation , this is the this legislation, this is the immigration bill leaves any opportunity rights opportunity for human rights lawyers individual lawyers to bring individual migrant court. they migrant cases to court. they will take advantage of it and not only where they take advantage of it, they will take advantage of it, they will take advantage your hard advantage of it with your hard earned these earned taxes, because these people on legal aid. people are on legal aid. >> is the biggest con going >> it is the biggest con going we punch up yesterday we have that punch up yesterday with the human rights. he defended himself very well. he did. part of the did. but they are part of the problem. that's why the problem. and that's why the plane took off. problem. and that's why the pla and took off. problem. and that's why the pla and jonathan off. problem. and that's why the pla and jonathan said, you've problem. and that's why the plaishownlathan said, you've problem. and that's why the plaishown migrants. i, you've problem. and that's why the plaishown migrants. thatr've problem. and that's why the plaishown migrants. that was just shown migrants. that was in mark white's package, mainly young living in young men in europe living in the under salvaged the open air under salvaged sheets. european sheets. yet the european governments constantly say, we aren't fairly . aren't treating migrants fairly. so the heated accommodation on mod sites and posh hotels together with health care and schooling. et cetera. et cetera isn't what the isn't as good as what the europeans . um, and europeans are doing. um, and peter says, the bbc presenter says it was a joke putting it on the middle finger. but she wasn't. smile ing well, no, she wasn't. smile ing well, no, she wasn't smiling point. wasn't smiling at that point. she realised just been she realised she'd just been caught act, says the caught live in the act, says the manager croissant on manager seat in a croissant on live tv . eat of it,

manager seat in a croissant on live tv. eat of it, nigel live tv. eat all of it, nigel said the director is taking responsibility for that. nigel said no matter how you frame it, it is a total lack of professionalism. >> yeah , he's not talking about >> yeah, he's not talking about you and your croissant, but i am not surprised. >> one day we will be license free. why? >> well, it won't happen under this government. and remember nadine was nadine dorries, when she was culture she over culture secretary, she quit over over forced out. she over boris being forced out. she froze the licence for two years. and what did the bbc do? they then demand a 9% increase in the licence fee, which is an outrage. and remember, until very recently, until 2020, if you were over 75, you got it free. so you should because you paid into it, paid into this wretched organisation for decades. >> and it's living on borrowed time because if you ask my teenagers, you've got to pay this you go to prison, they this or you go to prison, they say, don't watch it. say, well, i don't watch it. i don't to it. then you don't want to watch it. then you know it's not going to last long, is it? right. >> and there are people currently didn't currently in prison who didn't pay currently in prison who didn't pay predominantly pay the tv licence predominantly women. right. pay the tv licence predominantly women. right . joining us now >> yeah, right. joining us now from outside the covid inquiry is our political correspondent

olivia morning, olivia utley lee. good morning, olivia utley lee. good morning, olivia . is there still a big olivia. is there still a big crowd out there this morning? when i drove in this morning, there was a huge crowd, placards on both sides, many anti—lockdown vaccine anti—lockdown anti vaccine mandates and some pro lockdown . mandates and some pro lockdown. very, very united in anti boris sentiment . sentiment. >> well, absolutely. i think that's a good way of summing it up there is a small crowd of mainly pro lockdown very anti bofis mainly pro lockdown very anti boris protesters behind me. they didn't actually get here in time to see boris come in. as with yesterday , the former prime yesterday, the former prime minister arrived three hours before the start of the covid inquiry at 10 to 7 and really liked it from his car into the building. so no one managed to talk to him at all. he is in for a big grilling today. it looks like it's going to be tougher for even than it was for him even than it was yesterday . and the focus of yesterday. and the focus of today's questions going today's questions are going to be probably all be on partygate. we probably all heard enough about that to last us most of a lifetime, but we will hear more today. boris

johnson will to wriggle his johnson will have to wriggle his way that. and on the way out of that. and on the second uk lockdown , which boris second uk lockdown, which boris johnson is going to struggle struggle well . some of struggle with as well. some of the arguments that he used for why he implemented the first lockdown at the moment, he did was that he didn't know that he didn't understand the gravity of the pandemic at the beginning, and scientists. that and nor did the scientists. that argument is more difficult to make for the second lockdown, when the virus surged again in the autumn of 2020. so it is set to be a really difficult day for the former prime minister. and as you said in your introduction there, bev, it feels as though he will be attacked on both sides those who like sides from those who feel like the detriments of lockdown weren't weighed up against the benefits and those who feel as though lockdown didn't come soon enough and wasn't strict enough . enough and wasn't strict enough. >> okay. thank you very much, olivia . we're seeing the live olivia. we're seeing the live footage there from the inquiry , footage there from the inquiry, if you think about this in context. >> so the prime minister is giving evidence finishes today. we've got another three we've then got another three

years. going care after years. he's going to care after the prime minister. he's the most important person and we won't get to the bottom of what caused covid and why we had the lockdown. what about why there was no, i suppose when rishi gives evidence next week. yes it's chancellor it's because he was chancellor and didn't order an economic and he didn't order an economic audh and he didn't order an economic audit of the impact on the economy of lockdown or maybe he did and we never saw it. >> i think they did. >> i think they did. >> i think they did. >> i remember. >> i remember. >> where is it? i was very tuned into this at the time. and i remember where said they remember where they said they were a cost benefit were going to do a cost benefit analysis of lockdowns and then they decision and they would make a decision and that the light of day. that never saw the light of day. >> i hope >> that report. well, i hope he's about it. he's asked about it. >> i hope so, too. >> now, still to come, harry redknapp, i know he is. redknapp, even i know who he is. he's man who he's that delightful man who used football team. he's that delightful man who used returning football team. he's that delightful man who used returning to football team. he's that delightful man who used returning to football.l team. he's returning to football because the because he's going to manage the worst the united worst club in the united kingdom. and apparently that isn't manchester united. >> called my father's >> it's called my father's watching. you can't say a bad word about manchester united . word about manchester united. he's going to manage. come fc. it's the worst club in the uk, apparently. why would he want to

do find out just do that? we'll find out in just a morning's a moment after your morning's news francis . news with sam francis. >> bev, andrew, thank you very much . it'sjust >> bev, andrew, thank you very much . it's just gone. 1032. the much. it's just gone. 1032. the headunes much. it's just gone. 1032. the headlines this hour. the prime minister is due to hold a news conference in the next half hour as he battles to unite the party over the rwanda policy. we will, of course, bring you that live here on gb news. immigration minister robert jenrick resigned yesterday, saying he was strongly in disagreement with the approach to tackle migration. he says the emergency legislation, which will be introduced to parliament later, doesn't go far enough and he says it won't stop the boats . says it won't stop the boats. bofis says it won't stop the boats. boris johnson has told the covid inquiry he's not confident that there's enough evidence to support the claim that eat out to help out the scheme that he introduced during the pandemic led to rise in cases . the led to a rise in cases. the former prime minister is giving evidence for the second day after being booed crowds after being booed by crowds of bereaved families as he left

last the inquiry has last night. the inquiry has confirmed that rishi sunak will appear at the hearing on monday. mr are uk is complicit harmondsworth supporting israel . harmondsworth supporting israel. hundreds of campaigners have blocked access to a number of defence factories in the latest demonstrations against arms being sent to israel . the group being sent to israel. the group called workers for a free palestine say they've shut down access to four sites, one in glasgow, one in bournemouth, lancashire and in brighton. the factories produce components for the f—35 fighter jet that's currently being used by the israeli military . the the israeli military. the the metropolitan police is calling on just stop oil campaigners to reach out to them after revealing its cost £20 million to police. the activists . the to police. the activists. the force says the group has refused to engage since its first protest in october of last year. scotland yard have said that the time spent on the group equated to around 300 officers a day

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&co & co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six >> it's 1040. >> it's 1040. >> you could almost certainly hear carole malone talking in the corner because that's what she does. that's what she does . she does. that's what she does. caramelo love carol is here broadcast and she's here with former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire. and if you two don't disagree, i'll be amazed . disagree, i'll be amazed. >> right. >> right. >> shall what do you >> shall we start? what do you want with, carol? oh want to start with, carol? oh we're to we're to want to start with, carol? oh we're at to we're to want to start with, carol? oh we're at to scobie's to want to start with, carol? oh we'reat to scobie's new) want to start with, carol? oh we'reat to scobie's new book, look at ahmed scobie's new book, end . end game. >> how is that doing, malone? >> i thought were >> i thought we were doing rishi, anyway, will do rishi, but anyway, we will do rishi, but anyway, we will do rishi just under 6500 copies in britain. >> even your books are five days below scale. >> despite a blizzard of pubuchy >> despite a blizzard of publicity and has plunged to 215

on the amazon. best sellers list. that's right. this on the amazon. best sellers list. that's right . this is just list. that's right. this is just for for some context, some books that have vastly outsold end game this this christmas . making game this this christmas. making it into the top 100 include a marvel spiderman and search and find colouring book that was released last year and air a oh booki released last year and air a oh book i won't have a bad word said about air fryers wherever they are. and the dinosaur that pooped her reindeer, which is a festive lip lift , the flap festive lip lift, the flap adventure. so so omid scobie, not at taking the publishing world by storm at the moment. scarlett what a surprise. >> why would anybody buy it? i mean, it appears not that i have read it, but it appears that everything that's in it, we already know. yeah quite are. and whether it's true or not is another matter . so. so for another matter. so. so for a start to buy it, you have to be on the sussexes side, which i think in britain is, is very few people. but it's already been there on the sussexes side i'm

on nobody's i think i think that that they're they're entitled rubbish and frankly if i was their pr advisor i'd say shut up and actually do something. >> carol it does show doesn't it, that if this book is meant to be a bit of a popularity, it's a good test of how popular the sussexes are and all three of them, in fact. >> i mean, this the story , sadly >> i mean, this the story, sadly for scobie, became about him in the it became about his the end. it became about his credibility, doesn't credibility, which he doesn't have became about have any. and it became about what happened holland and what happened in holland and him saying he hadn't sent this book with the a lie. well, we with the name a lie. well, we know that his him or his agent sent that book. yeah, but he shameful . he tried to blame the shameful. he tried to blame the poor translator . yeah, he was poor translator. yeah, he was one of the best in holland. he tried blame the publishers. tried to blame the publishers. so judged whole so people have judged the whole thing scholars thing on him. and a scholars just there's nothing in just said there's nothing new in this it's a of this book. it's just a rehash of it. enough, it. and funnily enough, everything the book is everything that's in the book is all meghan's pet peeves, all the things that really annoy her, which it? but which is funny, isn't it? but you is a judgement you know, this is a judgement of him and it's interesting. some of the books read what

him and it's interesting. some of tbeaten,s read what him and it's interesting. some of tbeaten, alton, ead what him and it's interesting. some of tbeaten, alton, some what him and it's interesting. some of tbeaten, alton, some of what him and it's interesting. some of tbeaten, alton, some of the it it's beaten, alton, some of the books, it's the one called things while you poo on things to do while you poo on the the beano the loo. it's beating the beano annual the loo. it's beating the beano annual, which i'm surprised at because annual is because the beano annual is really diary of really good. yeah. diary of a wimpy and a stick man. which wimpy kid and a stick man. which is? this is exactly is? which is this is exactly what deserves. what he deserves. >> know you could still >> i didn't know you could still buy a beano annual. love it buy a beano annual. i'd love it for christmas. >> that's you might >> well, that's what you might get cheap. i might >> well, that's what you might get you cheap. i might >> well, that's what you might get you that. cheap. i might get you that. >> very good. very good. >> very good. very good. >> do they still do the beano annual? >> they still do. as a kid, i every year. >> that was great treat. well, >> that was a great treat. well, it was. >> but your did your kids >> but did your did your kids when were little. they know when they were little. they know what was. what beano was. >> my mum had kept house >> well my mum had kept house from the we from the 70s and the 8080s. we still those, original still got those, the original ones desperate horribly on pc. they hilarious to read them. they are hilarious to read them. >> there was one called willy. do you remember that. yeah which was. was a little was. it was. it was a little boy. was the scottish boy. it was like the scottish equivalent of just william, which i loved. yeah. but no , but which i loved. yeah. but no, but i don't think kids get them anymore. no, it's . anymore. no, it's. >> it's plummeting isn't it. that book. >> were, you were beano >> well you were, you were beano and fan. and dandy fan. >> not great. i mean you liked it. i like judy and bunty , but

it. i like judy and bunty, but actually i did. of course i read beano dandy. i read any beano and dandy. i read any comic. i read barrel, comic. i mean, i read barrel, barrel the peril. comic. i mean, i read barrel, bariel the peril. comic. i mean, i read barrel, bari remember. comic. i mean, i read barrel, bari remember her. i remember >> i remember her. i remember yellow peril. >> she was great. >> she was great. >> yes. i mean , was that you, >> yes. i mean, was that you, malone? >> were you beryl? the peril as a kid? >> i wasn't good as a kid. >> i wasn't good as a kid. >> yeah. yeah >> yeah. yeah >> not very now. >> yeah. yeah >> i not very now. >> yeah. yeah >> i got not very now. >> yeah. yeah >> i got into very now. >> yeah. yeah >> i got into more now. >> yeah. yeah >> i got into more trouble n. >> yeah. yeah >> i got into more trouble than you. let's >> let just you. let's >> let just this back >> let me just steer this back to news agenda, shall we? to the news agenda, shall we? >> robert jenrick has >> right. robert jenrick has quit over this rwanda policy. scarlett and it looks like the conservative boys now are absolutely riven with division. >> well, that makes a change, doesn't it? i mean, a lot of people say that the reason robert jenrick really resigned is that he was the only pal of rishi who hasn't made the cabinet sulking completely personal with you. right. there's i mean, frankly, this whole rwanda thing is totally performative . i've i mean, even performative. i've i mean, even if rwanda was going to work , it if rwanda was going to work, it would achieve absolutely

nothing. so a few hundred people would go to rwanda. >> deterrent a deterrent. >> deterrent a deterrent. >> hold on, andrew. why would anybody who is going to risk their lives coming over be worried that their chances are what, 1 in 20 1 worried that their chances are what, 1 in 201 in 100, worried that their chances are what, 1 in 20 1 in 100, that what, 1 in 201 in 100, that they'll get sent to rwanda? rwanda is a few hundred people . rwanda is a few hundred people. it's and it's not working as a deterrent. i mean, if it was working, as i tell you what works as it because it's not implementing what works as a deterrent is what they've done with albania is they've said to the albanians, you go straight back. suddenly we don't get albanians anymore . albanians anymore. >> but isn't that because albania isn't a war torn country? so we can't have those sorts of agreements with rwanda, with afghanistan, for instance? >> okay, so look at afghanistan. we owe the afghans, right? we owe. we absolutely failed all of them . a lot of them. we failed. them. a lot of them. we failed. and a lot of afghans, the daily mail campaigned for over a year to get afghans allowed to come

here. >> the translators , the and lots >> the translators, the and lots of them. >> and i mean, you know, when i was in afghanistan, right. it was in afghanistan, right. it was terrible. i mean, all these all these afghans who would come into the british embassy compound, they'd be risking their lives. they'd have to think . and we left them there. think. and we left them there. >> and that's what it was, a disgrace . disgrace. >> it was a disgrace. >> it was a disgrace. >> the fall of kabul, the way we handled it was appalling. >> and how it, frankly, >> and how long it, frankly, andrew newspaper to andrew took your newspaper to persuade government let persuade the government to let afghans which time it was afghans in, by which time it was too late. so actually , there is too late. so actually, there is a real problem about why why aren't we taking afghans in? when we went in there and made promises to them, it's easy to talk about afghans. >> what about why have we got indians coming across the channel? there war in channel? india is there a war in india? india, which has got a developing space programme ? developing a space programme? >> kind of got off the >> we've kind of got off the subject. about subject. we're talking about generic. you're generic. i mean, no, you're right. true. but i think right. that is true. but i think the quite torn the generic thing i'm quite torn on because i see what i see on this because i see what i see what he's doing. he knows it's not going to work. he knows it's

not going to work. he knows it's not going to stop the boats. and he, politicians , is he, like all politicians, is self—interested. so he's resigned because he's to resigned because he's going to get when doesn't work. get blamed when it doesn't work. that's sure. but also, i that's for sure. but also, i think if you really care about controlling immigration in a illegal or otherwise , and you, illegal or otherwise, and you, the immigration minister, you don't bloom and quit. you you stay in government and you make it you know , had it work. you know, rishi had told tories to unite or die told the tories to unite or die over this rwanda plan. well they've die because, they've chosen to die because, you there's a section of you know, there's a section of the tory party, you know, what they called one nation they call the called one nation or yeah, 106 of them. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> they're they're wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> buty're they're wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> but also they're wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> but also they they're wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> but also they hate ey're wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> but also they hate the wets. or something. yeah, 106 of them. >> but also they hate the people who vote. tory they hate tory, they hate their opinions. they hate that nearly 50% of hate the fact that nearly 50% of this support the rwanda this country support the rwanda plan. that. plan. they hate that. >> more than that. it's >> no, it's more than that. it's well, the most recent polling said 49. >> but but and only 27% opposed it. but they hate the tory voters. they hate the red wall voters. they hate the red wall voters and they like the blue wall voters. >> i mean, the thing is, a lot of tories know, the labour know no liberal democrat, lib dem . i

no liberal democrat, lib dem. i mean, i think that there are people who vote tory who who are not red in the tooth, right. and those, those are the people they're very worried about quite rightly, the red wall is almost lost because, because richard tice and his people are be if they'd sorted this out. no richard tice richard tice the reform party is going to win that to get in. and in the meantime , the blue wall, right, meantime, the blue wall, right, the sort of the tories in surrey and you know, around are are thinking. i mean, you know , i thinking. i mean, you know, i mean i said to, to to, jacob rees—mogg you're going to lose us because people like suella are so toxic that they're not going to vote for you. >> you know, the red wall loved suella. they completely they believed everything she said. and the fact that she's gone now , there's one enough to , there's no one tough enough to fight immigration. rishi has fight for immigration. rishi has made this this this made you know, this this this policy that he's brought together thought together is quite well thought out. it shows to me he's out. however it shows to me he's not a leader, just go back in time. think of someone like thatcher power. would she

thatcher was in power. would she be like this? she be mucking about like this? she would, chuck. she would say, well, echr we're well, get out of the echr we're not to listen to what they not going to listen to what they say. what you've got. say. this is what you've got. searle, to appease searle, who's trying to appease everyone, and he's appeasing no one. achieve one. what did suella achieve dunng one. what did suella achieve during her year? she achieve anything when has a prime anything when she has a prime minister who. no, no. what what, what? >> suella suella did not do the most obvious thing is her ideas, which is to begin a process thing. i mean, one of the one of the reasons we spend £8 million a day on hotels is because we are not processing asylum seekers right ? if we processed seekers right? if we processed asylum seekers , we could be asylum seekers, we could be sending some of them back and the others could actually work. we would not have them in hotels. you realise you say we should be processing, but you realise process delayed realise every process is delayed or held up by by the human rights, human rights, rights organisations all of them. this is a myth. it isn't. this isn't. no, this. look in, in, in in in 2010, even 2015, it was a matter

of weeks. and possibly a couple of weeks. and possibly a couple of months for somebody to be processed. right it it's not any more it's the home office is deliberately sabotaging it. >> the home office is sabotaging it. we've seen that in the emails when priti patel was there, they virtually declared warfare on the rwanda plan because they don't agree with it. they think it's racist, but it's not their job to take that view. they should implement government policy. >> i'm talking about rwanda >> i'm not talking about rwanda immigration numbers were not where are today . where they are today. >> in the years you just suggested. >> because they were being >> no, because they were being processed. and if people know, they're going to know if people know, they're going be sent know, they're going to be sent back , they don't that's back, they don't come. that's the way to stop, to stop illegal immigration. people. we had a handful of them 5 or 6 years. we didn't have a handful. we did. we've had we. do you think we've had since 2018, since what we have sort of 40, 50,000 a year, right. they can be processed, 18,000. they can be. they can

be. that's where we should. what did suella do? >> all suella can't do anything without the backing of her prime minister and her prime minister was two goals. >> well, she did nothing about processing. absolutely processing. she did absolutely nothing . all she did was whinge nothing. all she did was whinge and lose the conservatives. >> the election are going to do. yeah, because to we heard yeah, because going to we heard the shadow chief secretary of the shadow chief secretary of the , darren and we the treasury, darren and we heard what his name is saying . heard what his name is saying. he's going to cut to 200,000. how are you going to do that? uh, i, i, i think it's ridiculous for anybody to talk about figures , right? about figures, right? >> i mean, david. david are going to do. no, you want to know , the first thing we're know, the first thing we're going to do is we're going to do processing, right? so so actually, people get sent back . actually, people get sent back. and this isn't happening at the moment. the moment they just moment. at the moment they just come and go, oh, what are come in and we go, oh, what are we going to do with shadow home secretary said secretary yvette cooper said one of things going of the first things we're going to the trafficking to do was smash the trafficking gangs ever thought gangs like no one's ever thought of no. funny that. well, well, well. >> they're not doing a very good job. so that and processing and

get and you do do so that's it. >> and how are you going to improve processing. they're going improve processing. they're goiioh and what and what are you >> oh and what and what are you lot doing apart from talking about. >> oh by the way do you have any idea do you have any idea why the process thing isn't quicker than it should? the process thing isn't quicker tha because ld? the process thing isn't quicker tha because the home office >> because the home office is scuppering it on purpose. >> but you. think the >> but you. so you think the people at the home people who work at the home office are migrants because they they the numbers of people they cut the numbers of people doing processing 18 months to process one person. pi'ocess one person. >> process one person. >> ridiculous . >> ridiculous. >> ridiculous. >> and it used to be it used to be a matter of weeks and you can do it. >> why do you think @ why do you think m >> so why do you think why do you because they cut the numbers. >> because you mean it's a funding issue. it's a funding issue. >> but how? that's where the money into not money should be put into not giving hundreds of millions to rwanda nothing . right. rwanda to do nothing. right. what they've done, we've we've given them £148 million for a yearin given them £148 million for a year in which nobody has gone and instead of asking and rwanda goes, we've already allocated that money. if the system is such that the personal opinions

of somebody doing that, processing can influence the decision and the speed at which somebody processed the system is wrong. >> but we know that's the case. >> but we know that's the case. >> have had people in the >> we have had people in the home out of their home office walk out of their jobs saying offends my jobs saying this offends my beliefs, my principles, comparing it to nazis. >> we've got to follow the rules. we're not willing to follow the rules. does not take 18 months to process a person, but are taking 18 months but they are taking 18 months because the says because the spear says the deliberately process deliberately slowing the process because believe in because they don't believe in controlling borders. >> you know, labour doesn't believe in controlling borders. >> believe >> labour does believe in controlling labour controlling borders, labour really do labour open all hours when completely and when that is completely and utterly wrong? andrew that is wrong. give me any. >> blair 2014 yeah, exactly what blair 2014 opened the doors to european migration. he didn't have to. he took not 2014, was it when did he get to know? >> and , and it was a mistake. it >> and, and it was a mistake. it was a it was a mistake, a huge mistake. and it was a huge mistake. and it was a huge mistake. and it was a huge mistake. and he was told that it would be 50,000 and it was 500,000. was a he, wasn't he ?

500,000. it was a he, wasn't he? he was, carol, hang on. >> he was told advised to bring in a limit like the speed in another country in europe. >> and he ignored it because he wanted to flood this country with migrants. did not wanted with migrants. he did not wanted them to vote labour. >> european country, >> he the european country, andrew, european. >> he the european country, ancwrong. european. are wrong. >> you are as are wrong. >> you are as usual. >> no, no. andrew you are wrong. tony blair made a mistake. he thought it would be 50,000. and it was. and it was 500,000. he admits that we should have been like the other europeans and stopped the bulgarians and 50,000 mistakes. >> hinckley naive of him to think that britain is not such an attractive country. >> it wasn't a mistake. half a million people were going to was i >> -- >> it was a mistake . deliberate? >> it was a mistake. deliberate? it was not. it was deliberate. it was not. it was deliberate. it was not barely scratched the surface of our topics. >> ladies, we have many , many >> ladies, we have many, many more through today . but more to get through today. but in the next few minutes, the prime minister will quite likes me. >> actually, the next the prime minister will deliver a press

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annie. >> still to come, harry redknapp i >> -- >> and i'm so looking forward to that. >> are you looking forward to this as well? rishi sunak is going to address the nation any moment now. we think about the immigration issue. >> be hanging on >> we're going to be hanging on every with britain's every word with britain's newsroom gb news, the newsroom on gb news, the people's .

channel good morning. 11 am. on thursday, the 7th of december. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> any minute now, the prime minister will hold a press conference live from downing street amid migration, anger and a rwanda revolt. >> the immigration minister, robert jenrick, quit over the new deal . robert jenrick, quit over the new deal. robert, who do you robert jenrick, quit over the new deal . robert, who do you say new deal. robert, who do you say 7 new deal. robert, who do you say ? quite >> let's go live to the prime minister in downing street. he's ready for us now . any minute ready for us now. any minute now. well, if you think he is, he's powdering his nose. >> apparently. he's obviously going to talk about robert jenrick resignation. here he is. i people i understand why some people take of getting into take the risk of getting into unsafe to cross open waters. >> it's because the united kingdom is an incredible country. >> it offers opportunity, hope and safety . but the difference and safety. but the difference is my family came here legally . is my family came here legally. like most immigrants, they integrated into local communities, worked hard to provide for their family, built lives and businesses, found

friends and neighbours and most of all, they were really proud to become british. that feeling of pride . ed it cascades down of pride. ed it cascades down the generations and grows and that's why you see so many children of immigrants sitting around the cabinet table. but it's not a given illegal immigration undermines not just our border controls. it undermines the very sense of fairness that is so central to our national character. we play by the rules. we put in our fair share. we wait our turn now . if share. we wait our turn now. if some people can just cut all of that out, you've not just lost control of your borders, you've fatally undermine the very fairness base upon which trust in our system is based . that's in our system is based. that's why this legislation is so necessary to deliver an effective deterrent to those who wish to come here illegally to restore people's trust that the system is fair and ultimately to stop the boats . and so our bill

stop the boats. and so our bill today fundamentally addresses the supreme court's concerns over the safety of rwanda . i did over the safety of rwanda. i did not agree with that judgement , not agree with that judgement, but i respect it that is why we have spent the last three weeks working tirelessly to respond to their concern and to guarantee rwanda safety in a new legally binding international treaty . binding international treaty. the supreme court were clear that they were making a judgement about rwanda at a specific moment 18 months ago and that the problems could be remedied today we are confirming that they have been and that unequivocally rwanda is a safe country . and today's bill also country. and today's bill also so ends the merry go round of legal challenges that have blocked our policy for far too long. we simply cannot have a situation where our ability to control our borders and stop people taking perilous journeys across the channel is held up in

endless litigation in our courts . so this bill gives parliament the chance to put rwanda safety beyond question in the eyes of this country's law . parliament this country's law. parliament is sovereign . it should be able is sovereign. it should be able to make decisions . those that to make decisions. those that cannot be undone in the courts and it was never the intention of international human rights laws to stop a sovereign parliament removing moving illegal migrants to a country thatis illegal migrants to a country that is considered safe in both parliamentary statute and international law . so the bill international law. so the bill does include what are known as notwithstanding clauses, these mean that our domestic courts will no longer be able to use any domestic or international law, including the human rights act, to stop us from moving illegal migrants. let me just go through the ways that individual illegal migrants try and stay claiming asylum. that's now blocked. abuse of our modern

slavery rules block out the idea that rwanda isn't safe, blocked by the risk of being sent to some other country, blocked and spunous some other country, blocked and spurious human rights claims. you'd better believe that we've blocked those, too, because we're completely disapplying all the relevant sections of the human rights act and not only have we blocked all of these ways that illegal migrants will try and stay, we've also blocked their ability to try and stay by bringing a judicial review on any of those grounds . that means any of those grounds. that means that this bill blocks every single reason that has ever been used to prevent flights to rwanda from taking off. the only extremely narrow exception in will be that if you can prove with credible and compelling evidence that you specifically have a real and imminent risk of serious and irreversible harm ,

serious and irreversible harm, we have to recognise that as a matter of law and if we didn't, we'd undermine the treaty we've just signed with rwanda as the rwandans themselves have made clear , if we go any further, the clear, if we go any further, the entire scheme will collapse and there is no point having a bill with nowhere to send people to. but i am telling you now we have set the bar so high that it will be vanishingly rare for anyone to meet it . and once you have to meet it. and once you have been removed , you will be banned been removed, you will be banned for life from travelling to the uk , settling here or becoming uk, settling here or becoming a citizen. but of course, even with this new law here at home, we could still face challenges from the european court of human rights in strasbourg. so let me repeat what i said two weeks ago . i will not allow a foreign court to block these flights if the strasbourg court chooses to intervene against the express wishes of our sovereign

parliament, i will do what is necessary to get flights off and today's new laws already make clear that the decision on whether to comply with interim measures issued by the european court is a decision for british government ministers and british government ministers and british government ministers and british government ministers alone because it is your government, not criminal gangs or indeed foreign courts . who decides who foreign courts. who decides who comes here and who stays in our country . we now, of course, our country. we now, of course, our rwanda policy is just one part of our wider strategy to stop the boats. and that strategy is working . i've been prime working. i've been prime minister for just over a year now, for and the first time, small boat arrivals here are down by a third. even as illegal crossings in the mediterranean have soared by 80. yet let me just repeat that small boat arrivals here are down by a third to help achieve that , third to help achieve that, we've signed returns in

cooperation agreements with france, bulgaria , turkey, italy france, bulgaria, turkey, italy and georgia . illegal working and georgia. illegal working raids are up nearly 70. 50 hotels are being returned to their local communities. and we are housing people in a new barge. and in former military sites. the initial asylum backlog is down from 92,000 to less than 20,000. we've returned over 22,000 illegal migrants . over 22,000 illegal migrants. and as our deal with albania shows, deterrence works. last yean shows, deterrence works. last year, a third of all those arriving in small boats were albanian. this year, we've returned 5000 people and cut those arrivals by 90. and albanian arrivals have far more recourse to the courts than anyone under this new legislation . that's why i'm so legislation. that's why i'm so confident that this bill will work. lord sumption, the former supreme court judge , believes supreme court judge, believes this bill will work. supreme court judge, believes this bill will work . we will get

this bill will work. we will get flights off the ground. we will deter illegal migrants from coming here, and we will finally stop the boats . thank you. we stop the boats. thank you. we turn some questions from the media. can we start with the . bbc >> thank you, prime minister chris mason , bbc news. chris mason, bbc news. >> are you saying to your mps bluntly on all of this back me or sack me ? or sack me? >> so that was rishi sunak setting out his determination to stop the boats. he's taking questions now from the media, he said. but as you said, it is a press conference and if you were listening on the radio, he was speaking from a script. >> look, got a lot to >> now, look, he's got a lot to get off his chest. but why didn't he, for once just speak from the heart? >> you don't care. tell us how he really feels. >> passion in his belly got no passion. this is a huge issue. the stop the country is desperate to stop these. let's have a look. migrants. >> let's have a listen . >> let's have a listen. >> let's have a listen. >> nation does . that's what the >> nation does. that's what the new treaty that the home secretary signed this week does. and it will mean unequivocally

that rwanda safe and there that rwanda is safe and there should be no more blocks to our ability to get people planes ability to get people on planes and send them to rwanda, because that critical. we must have that is critical. we must have a deterrent that says if you come here illegally , you cannot stay here illegally, you cannot stay and you will be removed. and when we can get that up and running, as we have with albania , we will see the numbers come down. absolutely committed down. i am absolutely committed to seeing this through because i share the british people's frustration. it's patently unfair what is happening at the moment, which is why it requires action this . there is novel action like this. there is novel thatis action like this. there is novel that is contentious , but that's that is contentious, but that's what we're about. we're about getting done the things getting stuff done on the things that matter . this matters that matter. this matters and we're make sure that we're going to make sure that we deliver next, can i turn to itv ? deliver next, can i turn to itv? >> and prime minister, you've made clear that stopping the boats is one of your biggest promises to voters, and you're also telling us this legislation is the way to do it. >> so can i ask you, will next week's vote be treated as a vote of confidence in your government? and will you throw conservative mps out of the

party if they defy you? >> you don't know . but what this >> you don't know. but what this vote is about is about confidence in parliament to demonstrate that it gets the british people's frustration. i get it . i'm british people's frustration. i get it. i'm acting on it. so actually, the real question when it comes to all these votes is for the labour party, because i want to get this legislation on the statute as quickly as the statute books as quickly as possible. that's we're all possible. that's what we're all about. it record about. we've moved it record pace since the judgement to get the treaty, to get the bill introduced. so the question now is the labour party, because we've got no, but we've got we've got no, no, but we've got a right ? we've plan a plan right? we've got a plan to legislation and to pass this legislation and i want to pass it quickly. right. but i'm not hearing anyone but i'm not hearing from anyone else got plan, else that they've got a plan, right? question when right? so the real question when it to parliament, the it comes to parliament, the question all of you to ask question for all of you to ask is what are the labour party going do about this vote? going to do about this vote? what to do about what are they going to do about this we've what are they going to do about this clear we've what are they going to do about this clear plan we've what are they going to do about this clear plan to we've what are they going to do about this clear plan to the 've got a clear plan to stop the boats deterrence is a critical part of it. there is no way to stop people coming here unless you a deterrent that means you have a deterrent that means they be sent somewhere they will be sent somewhere else. as that.

else. it's as simple as that. this deterrent and we are this is our deterrent and we are doing everything we can to get it statute books and it on the statute books and get it on the statute books and get it the it up and running. so the question votes in parliament question for votes in parliament is what is the labour party's plan? and they to back plan? and are they going to back this can we go this legislation next? can we go to sky? >> thank you , prime minister. do >> thank you, prime minister. do you see the reality of what is happening here? you've lost control of your party and this has become a confidence issue not in parliament, but in you. do you accept that? and will you call an election if you lose these votes ? these votes? >> what's happening here is we're delivering on what i said, right. let's just look at the record and just look at the facts. when i this job, the facts. when i got this job, the number small boat arrivals number of small boat arrivals into this country had quadrupled old years . old in the past few years. right. that's what happened since i've been here. and because of all the things that we've got the we've done, we've got the numbers by a third, right? numbers down by a third, right? that's this that's my record on this situation where got the situation where we've got the number enforcement number of illegal enforcement raids 70. we've arrested raids up by 70. we've arrested literally hundreds and hundreds of people . all right. in those of people. all right. in those raids , but also people who are

raids, but also people who are coming illegally who are facilitating this awful trade . facilitating this awful trade. we've we've closed down thousands people's bank thousands of people's bank accounts. we shouldn't have been thousands of people's bank accouwe'reie shouldn't have been thousands of people's bank accouwe're returningl't have been thousands of people's bank accouwe're returning 20|ave been thousands of people's bank accouwe're returning 20 over3een here. we're returning 20 over 20,000 that's my record 20,000 people. that's my record on this issue. those are the facts. and that's because i get it because is it. that's because this is ridiculous. what's going on. right. we're doing something right. and we're doing something about now. i want finish about it now. i want to finish the job. right. and finishing the job. right. and finishing the getting this the job means getting this legislation statute books. >> he's finishing the job. we're finishing the press conference is talks from the is better when he talks from the heart when he goes heart like that. when he goes off script. he did actually look for there he for a moment there like he actually it. well, actually cared about it. well, from news more from that breaking news to more breaking foreign from that breaking news to more breaki ministers foreign from that breaking news to more breaki ministers have oreign from that breaking news to more breaki ministers have revealed from that breaking news to more brea russia'sers have revealed from that breaking news to more brea russia's security revealed from that breaking news to more brea russia's security service d that russia's security service has hacked high profile politicians and civil servants. >> so our reporter , charlie >> so our reporter, charlie peters, great investigative reporter, is to here tell us more. >> so we know this morning now ministers have confirmed that russia a sustained hacking russia led a sustained hacking operation against high profile politician as civil servants and journalists in what ministers have described as an attack on british democracy or a sustained

effort by the russian federal security bureau, which is the sort of successor to the kgb in moscow in the details of this attack. they're pretty limited attack. they're pretty limited at this stage. but we do know that private correspondence was acquired from politicians and indeed from those working around british democracy, including members of think tanks linked to the british state, in one example named by minister leo docherty, this morning, a group called star blizzard, a state augned called star blizzard, a state aligned group. so it's allied to the russian state, but not technically a part of it. had acquired private correspondence from a think tank that was named this morning, and it comes on the back of a wider concern about cyber attacks in the united kingdom. earlier this week, deputy prime minister oliver dowden urged britons to be analogue in a digital age . he be analogue in a digital age. he warned at the national cyber security centre that we needed to get first aid kits, torches and candles as risks of cyber

attacks and power cuts due to critical national infrastructure i >> -- >> let's have a listen to what oliver dowden said. charlie let's be clear what's being targeted here are the critical services is that government delivers our public finances , delivers our public finances, our roads and railways , our our roads and railways, our schools , our health service , our schools, our health service, our armed forces, even even the heart of central government itself . itself. >> and of all the volts that cyber criminals are desperate to crack into this . this one crack into this. this one contains some of the greatest rewards . and that's why we see rewards. and that's why we see so many attempts to breach our digital defences as last year 40% of the attacks addressed by the national cyber security centre were against the public sector in a. >> so that was oliver dowden there. now 40% against the pubuc there. now 40% against the public sector. >> last year we also heard last

year from the financial conduct authority had noticed authority who had noticed a significant rise in what are so—called distributed denial of service attacks. this is when a hostile actor, state or non—state, can overwhelm a cyber system by flooding it with information essentially shutting it down. now, it's a significant rise . and that reflects, rise. and that reflects, i think, what the ministers are warning this morning, that these cyber attacks aren't just focussed small part of focussed on one small part of the british state. they're encompassing wide range of encompassing a wide range of targets, including, as we've heard from the heard this morning from the deputy minister, ngos, us deputy prime minister, ngos, us think and journalists , not think tanks and journalists, not just politicians. we do the just politicians. do we do the same to them? well, we can't comment on the british comment on what the british intelligence service probably comment on what the british inteandence service probably comment on what the british inteand they're vice probably comment on what the british inteand they're alwaysybably comment on what the british inteand they're always very/ do. and they're always very limited in their information . limited in their information. but we don't know what moscow briefs. it's its own state department's on this issue. what we do know is what the deputy prime minister is telling us this morning, which is a sustained attack on our critical national infrastructure, because we've gchq , the listening we've got gchq, the listening centre in gloucestershire, one of the most advanced sense politically active operations.

>> i'm sure they're bugging russian politicians. and if they're not, why aren't they? >> gchq in that iconic doughnut building in cheltenham ? they building in cheltenham? they actually inside that building is this national cyber security centre, a significant arm of the british state. its role obviously is to protect that national secure city, but also critical national infrastructure , which is why we're hearing about these attacks, not only on politicians but also like we just heard about rail rail risks and possibly even power and also possibly even power cuts . as heard oliver cuts. as we heard from oliver dowden earlier this week, i was not just politicians. >> all of us. was >> i was all of us. i was stunned by that statement from oliver we should oliver dowden to say we should all up on candles all be stocking up on candles and torches and matches and thought it takes because i'm old enough to remember medieval england to three day week in england to the three day week in the 1970s under ted heath's government. >> you had to have candles because of power cuts. because of the power cuts. >> yeah, but i think it reflects a serious that this a serious threat that this country people country is facing. when people think and war, they country is facing. when people think think, and war, they country is facing. when people think think, you and war, they country is facing. when people think think, you know,ar, they country is facing. when people think think, you know, soldiers often think, you know, soldiers and on the front line. but

and tanks on the front line. but so of what is happening so much of what is happening nowadays in conflict, in security the so—called security is that the so—called subthreshold before your subthreshold level, before your bullets and triggers subthreshold level, before your bul pulled and triggers subthreshold level, before your bul pulled and and triggers subthreshold level, before your bul pulled and all1d triggers subthreshold level, before your bul pulled and all oftriggers subthreshold level, before your bul pulled and all of these 's are pulled and all of these actions are taking place and every day, 24 seven, every day, 24 over seven, britain allies are britain and its allies are engaged a cyber war against engaged in a cyber war against state actors non—state state actors and non—state actors would to all actors who would wish to do all of us harm. >> well, how must we >> well, how vulnerable must we be, a different be, though, that a different country could turn off our power 7 country could turn off our power ? i mean, how is that how have we got into a situation where thatis we got into a situation where that is a possibility? >> third most >> britain is the third most targeted country when it comes to after us to cyber attacks after the us and ukraine. because we're and ukraine. why? because we're still as a key player still seen as a key player around still seen as a key player aroroh, want to go back >> oh, we just want to go back to hope. to rishi sunak christopher hope. is there one his reports today in the house of commons that uk politicians were hacked by russia, were you hacked by russia, fsb were you hacked by the fsb ? the fsb? >> no. so on on the second one, there are a range of protections that both parliamentarians and ministers have and advice that they follow, and they get support the national cyber support from the national cyber centre things. and centre on all those things. and i'm pretty confident in the protections on your

protections that i have. on your first question, look at the results. so you've been over in calais, you've been over in france . well, the number of france. well, the number of people crossing from france to the uk this year is down by a third, right? that's the simple truth. we've arrested hundreds of people who have helped facilitate those crossings this yeah facilitate those crossings this year. many of them have already been charged. and they're going to end up going to jail right. people that come illegally people that have come illegally are bank accounts are having their bank accounts closed. 22,000 of them been closed. 22,000 of them have been returned . and by the way, and returned. and by the way, and the rest of europe, none of that is happening because numbers is happening because the numbers are they're by 80% in the are up. they're up by 80% in the mediterranean. actually, what mediterranean. so actually, what we're is making we're doing is making a difference. disrupting we're doing is making a differencgangs disrupting we're doing is making a differencgangs upiisrupting we're doing is making a differencgangs up stream g we're doing is making a differencgangs up stream before criminal gangs up stream before they get anywhere near calais in they get anywhere near calais in the place. we're working the first place. we're working more closely with the french for the first have british the first time. we have british officers embedded in their patrols. i and patrols. why? because i went and struck a good arrangement with the french . not reasons of the french. not for reasons of sentimentality , because it's in sentimentality, because it's in the national interests the british national interests to that cooperation on to have that cooperation on those beaches, to stop people coming, that cooperation coming, and that cooperation is working. would have seen

working. you would have seen pictures of some of barriers pictures of some of the barriers that were being put in rivers on the way up to beaches . the way up to the beaches. right. come as a result right. that's come as a result of cooperate action stops, of that cooperate action stops, people getting there in the first proof is in first place. and the proof is in the right. i'm not the pudding, right. i'm not about talking. i'm action. about talking. i'm about action. the crossing the numbers of people crossing from were to from exactly where you were to the uk are down by a third. they quadrupled in the last few years and they're up everywhere else . and they're up everywhere else. so should tell you, tell me so that should tell you, tell me and country that what and tell the country that what we're working. we're doing is working. it is making difference, we've making a difference, but we've got to finish the job. that's why is so why this legislation is so important . why this legislation is so important. that's why this legislation is so important . that's why important. that's why we've worked it. i'm worked so hard on it. i'm absolutely confident that it's the approach . it's the right approach. it's the toughest approach. it will toughest ever approach. it will close all the avenues that close down all the avenues that people used in the past. people have used in the past. and as i said, is and crucially, as i said, it is the approach because going the only approach because going any further, that difference is any further, that difference is an inch. but going any further would that rwanda will would mean that rwanda will collapse then we collapse the scheme and then we will to send anyone will have nowhere to send anyone to and is a way to get to and that is not a way to get this going. what everyone this going. so what everyone should support this bill. should do is support this bill. crucially, party. the crucially, the labour party. the question are they question for them is are they going support this going to support this legislation want to

legislation because we want to get and running as quickly get it up and running as quickly as possible can finish the as possible so we can finish the job, have a deterrent stop as possible so we can finish the job, boats? deterrent stop as possible so we can finish the job, boats? that'sent stop as possible so we can finish the job, boats? that'sent i'mtop the boats? that's what i'm committed that's what committed to doing. that's what the committed to doing the team is committed to doing and sure and we're going to make sure that through. thank that we see it through. thank you minister. you very much, minister. >> doing his press conference talking about why tory have >> doing his press conference talget] about why tory have >> doing his press conference talget behind why tory have >> doing his press conference talget behind that tory have >> doing his press conference talget behind that bill. have >> doing his press conference talget behind that bill. the have to get behind that bill. the vote tuesday, big vote . vote next tuesday, big vote. there'll be some tories will rebel it'll go through but rebel, but it'll go through but without labour party support. >> well, quite. that was interesting, that interesting, charlie. that christopher hope there from gb news asked him did he know if he personally had been hacked and he kind of brushed it off and said, confident that have said, i'm confident that i have security place . that means security in place. that means that won't happen to me . i think that won't happen to me. i think you've got to be quite careful making such statement that making such a statement that could back and bite him. making such a statement that couwell, back and bite him. making such a statement that couwell, the ack and bite him. making such a statement that couwell, the briefing bite him. making such a statement that couwell, the briefing we'reim. >> well, the briefing we're heanng >> well, the briefing we're hearing these hearing this morning from these ministers that some ministers does suggest that some of these have been of these attacks have been successful we do successful in some way. we do know , according to deputy know, according to the deputy prime this morning, prime minister, this morning, that there has been selective that there has been a selective leaking he named leaking of information. he named one group in particular called star blizzard, state aligned star blizzard, a state aligned group in russia linked to the fsb. success to the kgb

fsb. that success to the kgb leaking information after successfully acquiring it by hacking into the private correspondence of high profile mps, civil servants, journalists and those in ngos. >> i wonder if they've hacked you. >> let's not ask that question. they we don't know the names of any of the victims. >> they've turned. >> they've turned. >> we don't know the names. >> we don't know the names. >> the government was this government was looking at what i was online during was doing online during the pandemic . pandemic. >> don't know the names >> look, we don't know the names of any of the victims so far, but have said that if you but they have said that if you have been targeted, they've been in if you have had in touch. so if you have had your private correspondence leaked, would leaked, they would have been a tap quite tap on the shoulder quite recently. >> remember a couple of >> i can remember a couple of years embarrassment years ago, huge embarrassment because the because it turned out the americans been listening americans had been listening into phone calls into angela merkel's phone calls when chancellor into angela merkel's phone calls wh> i think we can conclude with a great degree of security that the united kingdom is a world leader in intelligence. the intelligence community, especially on signals intelligence . there's a reason

intelligence. there's a reason why we're the third most targeted. it's not mistake. >> and charlie gchq is probably listening conversation >> and charlie gchq is probably lister now. conversation right now. >> i should they have gb >> i should hope they have gb news they have. news on it. of course they have. >> they do. know >> they do. they do. we know it's in it's always on in the 10 downing street canteen. anyway, so good morning everybody so good morning to everybody working at >> keep up the good work at number you're only 20 points number 10. you're only 20 points behind polls right? behind in the polls right? >> i'm sure we can't blame the canteen staff for that. i'm sure they're doing a brilliant job right. to come, right. right. still to come, we'll expert analysis on we'll have expert analysis on rishi's , what he just rishi's speech, what he just said. if you missed it, we're going to be drilling down into that for you. first, though, a little britain's little break here with britain's newsroom .

isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> it's 1128 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> it's 1126. just. just just want to get that right, because if you think you're catching a train and you just heard you missed it, that two minutes might important to might be really important to you. my glasses on. you. so just got my glasses on. no, haven't mine. no, i haven't got mine. i've forgotten you can forgotten them today. as you can see, reading the emails like see, i'm reading the emails like this, john this this, right. john said if this legislation action leaves any opportunity for human rights lawyers to bring individual migrant they'll migrant cases to court, they'll take it. that is take advantage of it. that is about the litigation. the legislation that rishi was legislation that rishi sunak was just out in his press just spelling out in his press conference it's conference there about why it's so he reckons he's so important. he reckons he's cracked doesn't he? look cracked it, doesn't he? look they'll vote in the they'll have a big vote in the commons . commons. >> w— >> that's almost immaterial because it's not the commons where he's going to have difficulties. the house difficulties. it's the house of

lords of judges, of lords full of judges, full of lords bishops , and that lords as bishops, and that wretched archbishop of canterbury , who organised last canterbury, who organised last time he will do everything he can to kill this stone dead. appalling. why are the bishops in lords anyway? in the house of lords anyway? >> allowed to really >> are you allowed to be really unpleasant of canterbury? >> i can't stand him . >> i can't stand him. >> i can't stand him. >> justin is appalling. >> justin welby is appalling. >> justin welby is appalling. >> is there any is there any connection between church attendance in the anglican church has slumped to an all time low and the fact they've got the worst archbishop of canterbury let canterbury in history? let us know you think. canterbury in history? let us knowe're you think. canterbury in history? let us knowe're going think. canterbury in history? let us knowe're going to nk. canterbury in history? let us knowe're going to christopher >> we're going to christopher hope to talk about hope now is going to talk about something hope now is going to talk about somethi|westminster morning, chris. >> morning, bev. morning andrew. well, i asked the question that gb news wanted to know the answer to for mark white's brilliant reporting for gb news today. he of course, was reporting there how migrants in calais are laughing at the uk government, laughing at our rwanda policy, saying, i asked that very question of the prime minister, are you a laughing stock, prime minister? how does it have migrants it feel to have migrants laughing as a country? and laughing at us as a country? and he made very clear that he

thinks deal is the one that thinks this deal is the one that can make the boats stop, that can make the boats stop, that can frustrate this business model, can see planes taking off and going back to rwanda next yeah he and going back to rwanda next year. he also made clear that the vote next week on his rwanda bill will not be a confidence vote. that means that mps who vote. that means that mps who vote against it will not be sacked. so that's an attempt at limiting the political fallout from this very, very contentious issue here in downing street. but he's made very clear, very emotional speech , in part from emotional speech, in part from the prime minister. he talked he talked a child, talked about how he's a child, a child he child of immigrants. he understands the need to come to this country, the uk says should be the fact that it is be proud of the fact that it is so attractive people coming so attractive to people coming here. equally, the small here. but equally, the small boats crossings offend against the british sense of fair play . the british sense of fair play. and he says that these these are spunous and he says that these these are spurious human rights claims mean that we have to take action as a country. he says that this policy is with an inch of where how hard they can go have they got any further it would have

collapsed, collapsed the whole deal collapsed, collapsed the whole deal. so he's intent. he thinks this he james this will work. he had james cleverly his new immigration cleverly and his new immigration ministers there in mike tomlinson in the front row of the press conference. now aslef gb news. and he is very, very confident it can work. it's a big few days for the pm back to you if he gets it through the commons, isn't the battle royal then in the house of lords with all bishops , the all those judges, bishops, the archbishop of canterbury, of course, flexing his muscles. >> isn't that where the real problems lie? problems are going to lie? there's majority but the government. >> the choice do not have a majority in house of commons, andrew that is that's been the case since time immemorial. the problem they've got is this this idea was not in the manifesto in 2019. so the laws, it's in the right of the laws to obstruct and delay this legislation. if they're not happy about it. what they're not happy about it. what the government wants is a big majority. next week, the bigger the majority is very hard . the the majority is very hard. the way our our our way we work with parliament in this country. the

bigger the majority in the commons is much harder for lords to frustrate it. so they want a big number out on monday or tuesday. when this vote happens, we'll find out shortly. and when that hopefully we'll find out shortly. and when that push hopefully we'll find out shortly. and when that push throughiefully we'll find out shortly. and when that push through to jlly we'll find out shortly. and when that push through to the they'll push it through to the lords or february. lords in january or february. but it's a lot of play here. but it's a lot of at play here. but it's a lot of at play here. but crucially, it's not a confidence the government confidence vote. the government is christopher, confidence vote. the government is downingristopher, confidence vote. the government is downing street er, confidence vote. the government is downing street there. you're on downing street there. >> they have very strict security there's normally >> they have very strict security apart:here's normally >> they have very strict security apart from s normally >> they have very strict security apart from maybe|lly >> they have very strict security apart from maybe the nobody apart from maybe the downing cat coming of downing street cat coming out of that a huge that door. you've got a huge crowd you today. we're crowd behind you today. we're all here wondering all sat here wondering who are they ? i don't understand that they? i don't understand that these are veterans . these are veterans. >> these are veterans meeting or a reception in with the prime minister. i think there's some our health workers and this is the kind of thing you see every day when we're lucky enough to broadcast from gb news, from the downing see all downing street, you see all human life goes through here, over a few doors down. over there, a few doors down. the for the pm has been fighting for his political me, political career and behind me, he's people who he's meeting with people who actually . not actually matter. not journalists, people who journalists, but people who actually the hard yards for actually do the hard yards for this country. and that's this country. and i think that's part democracy

part of the joy of our democracy and maybe of being prime and maybe the joy of being prime minister >> so will richardson not be down members down there meeting the members of today ? of the public today? >> i think he i think he was meeting them before the press conference. the press conference starts at 11:00. nice . then starts at 11:00. oh, nice. then for coffee looking. who's leaving now? yeah for coffee. and then he went from having having that small talk into to a meeting with journalists fighting for his political future. that's that's politics. yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and chris, great question to the prime minister. well done. that's chris hope, who is our political editor. thanks very much. thank chris. now, political editor. thanks very much is hank chris. now, political editor. thanks very muchis coming chris. now, political editor. thanks very muchis coming ch|good)w, political editor. thanks very muchis coming ch|good for kemi is coming from good for her. minister, her. the equalities minister, kemi badenoch, a stark kemi badenoch, giving a stark warning about children and transgender issues. we'll bring you all the latest on that . you all the latest on that. seeing i would say almost an epidemic of young gay children in young gay children being told that they are trans and being put on a medical pathway for irreversible decisions and they are regretting it. >> that is what i'm doing for

young lgbt children. i am making sure i am making sure that young people do not find themselves sterilised because they are being because they are being exploited by people who do not understand what these issues are i >> -- >> good for you. clarity authority and its schools should get a grip of this issue. yeah that and much, much more after your morning's news with sam . your morning's news with sam. beth >> andrew, thank you very much. it's just gone . 1132. i'm sam it's just gone. 1132. i'm sam francis in the newsroom . well, francis in the newsroom. well, as we've been hearing, breaking in the last hour, russia's federal security service, the fsb , has hacked high profile mps fsb, has hacked high profile mps in what the government says was a sustained effort to interfere in british politics. the deputy prime minister says peers, civil servants , journalists and servants, journalists and non—governmental organisation russians have also been targeted andifs russians have also been targeted and it's understood politicians had their personal email accounts compromised . and oliver

accounts compromised. and oliver dowden says the cyber attack is a clear pattern of behaviour by russia and those responsible will be held to account today in concert with our five eyes and euroarts atlantic partners , i euroarts atlantic partners, i can tell you that a unit within the russian federal security service known known as centre 18, has been behind sustained hostile cyber operations aimed at interfering in parts of the uk's democratic processes . uk's democratic processes. >> this has included targeting members of parliament. civil servants think tanks, journalists and ngos through a group commonly known as star blizzard . this group, operated blizzard. this group, operated by the fsb officers, has also selectively leaked and amplified information designed designed to undermine trust in politics, both in the united kingdom and in like minded states.

>> oliver dowden, speaking a few moments ago. the prime minister has defended the government's new rwanda policy, describing it as the country's toughest anti—immigration law . rishi anti—immigration law. rishi sunak says he knows the bill has upset some people , but it upset some people, but it addresses issues brought up by the supreme court, which he doesn't agree with, but says he doesn't agree with, but says he does respect . the prime minister does respect. the prime minister insists the government will get asylum flights off the ground . asylum flights off the ground. >> this bill blocks every single reason that has ever been used to prevent flights to rwanda from taking off as the rwandans themselves have made clear. if we go any further , the entire we go any further, the entire scheme will collapse and there is no point in having a bill with nowhere to send people to. but i am telling you now we have set the bar so high that it will be vanishingly rare . be vanishingly rare. >> boris johnson has told the covid inquiry he's not confident that there's enough evidence to support claims that the eat out

to help out scheme that he introduced during the pandemic led to a rise in cases. introduced during the pandemic led to a rise in cases . the led to a rise in cases. the former prime minister is giving evidence for the second day after booed by crowds of after being booed by crowds of bereaved families as he left the inquiry last night. it's confirmed that rishi sunak will appear at a hearing there on monday . well, you can get more monday. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . for exclusive limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets . snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you 1.25 ,9,000,000,001.1686 is the price >> the pound will buy you 1.25 is ,9,000,000,001.1686 is the price >> the pound will buy you 1.25 is at 9,000,000,001.1686 is the price >> the pound will buy you 1.25 is at £1,615. 000,001.1686 is the price >> the pound will buy you 1.25 is at £1,615. at0,001.1686 is the price >> the pound will buy you 1.25 is at £1,615. at £0.84 686 is the price of gold is at £1,615. at £0.84 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7506 points. >> rosalind gold proudly

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weeknights from. six >> very good morning. it's 1139 >> very good morning. it's1139 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. they're back. >> carole malone and former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire round two between you two, we get on really well. >> we've got. >> we've got. >> yeah, this is what we do right? we do fiery debates and thatis right? we do fiery debates and that is why that's why in fact , that is why that's why in fact, one story we're going to come on to in a minute, which is about nella—rose in the jungle, who says we don't like she never. well, she's out jungle well, she's out of the jungle now, isn't she said now, isn't she? but she said she's with anybody that she's never with anybody that doesn't agree her opinions she's never with anybody that does well, ree her opinions she's never with anybody that does well, you're her opinions she's never with anybody that doeswell, you're going)pinions she's never with anybody that does well, you're going to nions she's never with anybody that doeswell, you're going to go 1s like, well, you're going to go through learning through life not really learning anything. are in. anything. these people are in. so to here learn, right. so we are to here learn, right. carole, let's start with boris covid apology yesterday. did you believe kind of did. >> i did. »i did. >> i believe that i do. >> i mean, i believe that i do. i he was emotional. i think he was emotional. i thought it was a sincere apology. think there was thought it was a sincere apolo i]. think there was thought it was a sincere apoloi was think there was thought it was a sincere apoloi was watching. there was thought it was a sincere apoloi was watching. ihere was thought it was a sincere apoloi was watching. i was was i was i was watching. i was thinking, you know, the guilt for everything that went wrong has collective, not just for everything that went wrong has has collective, not just for everything that went wrong has has to llective, not just for everything that went wrong has has to be :tive, not just for everything that went wrong has has to be :tivecabinet.t boris has to be the cabinet. parliament you know, the scientists, the labour party,

the media, the i mean, definitely well . so definitely the media as well. so all things, guilt is all of those things, guilt is collective and i think, collective. and i and i think, you we can't you can't you know, we can't you can't scapegoat person all scapegoat one person in all of this. and say it's their fault. but, you know what i'm getting cross inquiry cross about because this inquiry is right is not asking the right questions. the only questions. the only the only questions. the only the only questions that needs to be asked are, did the three were there necessary? did they work? and what's the plan for the next time? so forget the plan. we just had. what's the plan for the time? and then not the next time? and then not doing any that . and that is doing any of that. and that is really really getting me really it's really getting me you we think this is going you know, we think this is going to cost up a quarter of £1 to cost up to a quarter of £1 billion. is that phone? billion. is that your phone? >> pierce it's not what is. >> your phone. it isn't. it's up to quarter of £1 billion. it's to a quarter of £1 billion. it's going for what if going to cost. and for what if it doesn't? if it doesn't come up with a policy for next up with a policy for the next pandemic, i'm sure pandemic, of which i'm sure there million, it there will be 1 million, it can't, because, mean, say we can't, because, i mean, say we have another have the pandemic, another pandemic forbid pandemic next year, god forbid they're going are going to be carrying on with this contrary to 2026. think it's true. but to 2026. i think it's true. but you and i watching you know, and i was watching them, the them, you know, i was the scientist week. valens and

scientist last week. valens and whitty trying to blame him whitty were trying to blame him and understand and saying he didn't understand any should have >> well, they should have explained it more clearly. >> were giving >> well, they were giving contradicting evidence. then they couldn't agree. so how the hell expect boris to be hell did they expect boris to be able to understand? but i think trying think it's trying to you know, i think it's really shameful to it seems to me decided me that the inquiry is decided that boris is to blame for everything. and it's very easy to blame him. it's the easiest thing to do. the hardest thing to do is get a policy the to do is get a policy for the next sort out what we next time and sort out what we don't do next time that we did this. >> and i want to know more about where all the money went, all of the that were being the contracts that were being out. and i know that's not out. and i know maybe that's not in and maybe they in this module and maybe they will to but are will come to that, but there are so many that this is so many questions that this is just not even touching sides just not even touching the sides with pertinent with the pertinent issues. >> there's no >> no, i mean, there's no question i think we've got question that i think we've got to the stage of knowing that number 10 was in complete chaos , number 10 was in complete chaos, that they were in the middle of arguing all the time with each other and whatever. actually, bons other and whatever. actually, boris says , slightly different boris says, slightly different under mrs. thatcher and tony

blair. can i say that it's got nothing to do with what's happening? i mean, the problem with the boris apology was it was just pr. i mean, he and his advisers, it was genuine. you know, he and his advisers had agreed . he briefed it out agreed. he briefed it out beforehand which lady hallett was not happy about. so what she thinks she she is she he's a politician. maybe he could sort of act properly, but but then he actually refused to say sorry for anything in specific. but i think you're right. i think i mean, i mean, you're absolutely right, carol. what we need to know is what happens next time and what could we have put right and actually, i think the argument that over when we should have locked down in 2020 isn't the big one. the bigger onesis isn't the big one. the bigger ones is what we should have done later actually did know later when we actually did know about about it. and what i'm waiting for is gavin williamson and schools because i think what he did was appalling. we opened pubs before schools. yeah, the, the knock on effect of the lack

of learning and the mental health for school children . health for school children. >> that's not the government's fault. that's the teachers fault. that's the teachers fault. the teachers were refusing to go in because they were saying were spreading. were saying kids were spreading. now, kids weren't spreading were saying kids were spreading. nowthey; weren't spreading were saying kids were spreading. nowthey weren'tt spreading were saying kids were spreading. nowthey weren't affected 1g and they weren't affected by it, but, that's think but, you know, that's i think these are the really important questions. did that policy questions. what did that policy do education, to medical do to education, to medical issues , to the cancer people who issues, to the cancer people who were never dying ? that's what we were never dying? that's what we should be getting, should be talking about. >> but actually, you say you >> but actually, you you say you say schools. i mean , say it's the schools. i mean, the thing about gavin williamson is he that being is because he felt that being education secretary was below him he should back him and really he should go back to mean, he didn't to defence. i mean, he didn't meet he wasn't meet the schools. he wasn't trying negotiate with the trying to negotiate with the schools. you can pay . oh, hold schools. you can pay. oh, hold on. pay. schools. you can pay. oh, hold on. pay . gavin on. you can pay. gavin williamson to what? victoria atkin the present health secretary, is trying to do with the doctors and they're completely different. gavin williamson did not go in, did not meet the teachers, did not say what can we do about the schools , what can we do about schools, what can we do about the children? that's what i want to know about. but going back to

you, and the ppe, a total you, bev, and the ppe, a total scandal. i mean, millions and millions were wasted and they sort of somebody said, well , you sort of somebody said, well, you know, and all this ppe that was never used wasn't never used . it never used wasn't never used. it was useless. i mean, that's what was useless. i mean, that's what was so terrible. yeah. >> and those, you know, that's what we need to learn. >> inquiry seems to be it seems to be a tory bashing exercise to me. and, you know, i don't care who said what. >> no, what, what. right, right. >> no, what, what. right, right. >> care who swore . no. >> i don't care who swore. no. you know, when you're going through knows through a pandemic, no one knows what doing. yes, through a pandemic, no one knows wrcourse, doing. yes, through a pandemic, no one knows wrcourse, tensions ng. yes, through a pandemic, no one knows wrcourse, tensions will yes, through a pandemic, no one knows wrcourse, tensions will be yes, of course, tensions will be high. and that's why it's crazy to blame one person. in to blame one person. and in terms of his apology, didn't terms of his apology, you didn't think every think it was sincere every single person who has given evidence, who's involved evidence, who's been involved has all have. has apologised. they all have. gove all have. so, you gove has. they all have. so, you know damned they know, and they're damned if they do. they're damned they do. and they're damned if they don't. there's one other don't. but there's one other thing, too. >> thought outrage >> i thought it was outrage that michael down last michael gove was shut down last week no, by the week by hallett, but no, by the lawyer saying, on no, we're not here to say the cause of the origin kind of off. why aren't

we? because it's material to how we? because it's material to how we deal with the next pandemic. because if it was developed in a laboratory, we need to know. so that sort of research should be regulated better, more responsibly . and yet they've responsibly. and yet they've closed it down. >> yeah. yeah. you're absolutely right that that's an outrage. that's a gain of function. research as we research is going on as we speak, in laboratories all speak, as we in laboratories all around world. around the world. >> could we could >> it could leak. we could be exposed pandemic. and exposed to another pandemic. and yet reference don't yet the terms of reference don't allow it. >> and this was funded by the american government. how could sweden a year? sweden wrap theirs up in a year? yeah, sweden, which one of yeah, sweden, which was one of the that handled the countries that handled it better first how better in the first place. how can take in? this can they just take in? this is going take 4 to a cost going to take 4 to 5 at a cost of disgusting. of it's disgusting. >> by the time it happens, >> and by the time it happens, it'll be it'll be outdated, whatever some whatever they decide, some of these won't be these protesters won't even be on this planet. >> right. talk kemi >> right. let's talk about kemi badenoch. saw a of her badenoch. we saw a clip of her before in the commons before talking in the commons yesterday. and she's yesterday. scarlet and she's made this really determined statement about the fact that a lot of who are in lot of kids who are in encouraged to transition to a different gender are just gay is she right? >> well, we have no idea. i

mean, this is this i mean, i think that it's really, really important that we understand that some people are gay and some people actually are unhappy in in in their where they are that they feel that they're in the wrong sex and i think the whole thing about being an adolescent is that in a way you don't know i mean it's quite quite interesting. so my daughter was a complete tomboy . daughter was a complete tomboy. i mean , you know, she didn't end i mean, you know, she didn't end up as a lesbian . she ended up as up as a lesbian. she ended up as a feminist. she's very good. but i mean, there was no question that she thought that boys had a better and my son to better life. and my son used to say when up and i'm say when i grow up and i'm a girl, think that the girl, i just think that that the thing about being children and adolescence is you go through it and if you end up gay, that's fine. if you end up saying, i'm in the wrong thing. and i just think this whole thing, this whole terror and fear actually doesn't help isn't the point. >> now , now that when your son >> now, now that when your son is saying, when i grow up to be

a girl these days, they might say, you want to be girl? say, do you want to be a girl? here's these drugs. >> difference. that's >> that's the difference. that's the difference. >> i think it happens much, much less often you think. less often than you think. i don't i do know that. no, no. >> that's em- % that's why >> that's why. that's why they've tavistock. they've closed the tavistock. >> not closed yet, >> well, it's not closed yet, malone. closing april. malone. it's closing in april. >> before >> it's not before time. >> it's not before time. >> close. and it's >> it's going to close. and it's because very young, because children, very young, teenage children were being given these drugs. and i think it's important there it's really important that there is giving them until is a ban on giving them until they're after 18. quite right. as said, when they're after 18. quite right. as 15, said, when they're after 18. quite right. as 15, think d, when they're after 18. quite right. as 15, think one hen they're after 18. quite right. as 15, think one thing, you're15, you think one thing, when you think when you're 16, you think another. when you're16, you think another. 80. keira another. when you're 80. keira bell the perfect example. you bell is the perfect example. you know, took these puberty know, she took all these puberty blockers and, know, she blockers and, you know, she now says life been damaged says her life has been damaged forever. breasts. she forever. she has no breasts. she has a very voice. she has a very deep voice. she wanted go back to being wanted to go back to being a woman again . and she is now woman again. and she is now forever scarred by these drugs because she young , too young. >> she she was encouraged to go. >> she she was encouraged to go. >> and this is the problem with a lot these clinics. they you a lot of these clinics. they you know, encourage know, they encourage teens whose minds made up yet minds haven't been made up yet about what what they are to take these drugs. about what what they are to take these drsometimes the >> and sometimes it's the parents. sometimes the parents

are bringing their own dysfunction psychology those dysfunction psychology to those situations and encouraging children to be something that they necessarily they may not necessarily be. sometimes a teacher we sometimes it's a teacher and we have to protect the children from these adults , and we also from these adults, and we also have to stop children being able to their pronouns at to change their pronouns at school the school school without the school telling the parents, yeah, it's outrageous . outrageous. >> do you agree with that? no, i think i think all that's fine. >> i just think i just think that what we need to understand, what understand is i what we need to understand is i mean, as carol was saying, is that that change all that is that children change all the time, particularly adolescents . and they do change adolescents. and they do change their pronouns. and they have dead names , which before and dead names, which before and i used to think it was just london, london schools, but apparently it's all over the country and it's what's going on at the moment. and i just think we should just say, yeah, that's what's happening and not what's happening and we're not going frightened by it. going to be frightened by it. and certainly not going to and we're certainly not going to start giving drugs . i start giving you drugs. i absolutely agree about drugs absolutely agree about the drugs by i think nobody by the way. i think nobody i mean, i think that sometimes

that you do need i mean, therapy is a good thing. sure. yeah >> you've got to work out why that person hates themselves so much. >> she calls conversion >> she calls it conversion therapy, know, that's therapy, which, you know, that's an evil thing. that's what's happening. >> let's get to neil ross . so >> let's get to neil ross. so neil arose and i wish in the jungle you could vote to get people out. >> i've been voting to keep nigel in, obviously, but i wish we could have voted to get out because i'd have voted to get her have. have gone immediate. >> so she's the influencer. so if you remember, she, she's the influencer tipped to influencer and she was tipped to be favourite when she first be the favourite when she first came show. everyone came on the show. everyone thought win it. thought she was going to win it. she gregarious, very she was very gregarious, very funny exclamative and she funny, very exclamative and she then into a debate with then got into a debate with fred. fred sirieix , thank you. fred. fred sirieix, thank you. and basically he said, i'm old enough to be your dad and which is a phrase that we would all use with a younger person falsely say, i'm old enough to be your mother. you know? and she took it incredibly personally because father personally because her father had yeah and so she's now had died. yeah and so she's now come out , carol,

had died. yeah and so she's now come out, carol, and she's trying to explain this away, but she's saying which is like totally disingenuous. she's saying which is like totishe'ssingenuous. she's saying which is like totishe'ssingenuo saying she's >> she's actually saying she's describing this as something she said claim he could be said over his claim he could be her father. but she is saying that he's he was saying he wanted to her he wanted to be her father. he didn't say anything like that. it was a conversation about it was just a conversation about ages of people in camp. ages of people in the camp. and he old enough to be he said, i'm old enough to be your father. and if you said it, your father. and if you said it, you could have said, i'm old enough to be your grandfather. but that's grandma. enough to be your grandfather. butgranny. that's grandma. >> granny. >> w- w— >> so but, you know, this is a woman who has said she actually said to fred, said she actually said to fred, you to disrespect you only get to disrespect me once. does think she is? once. who does she think she is? she as well, she said she said as well, she also said when she came out that she would never be in a company where anyone disagreed her. anyone had disagreed with her. >> thought was most >> i thought that was the most unbelievable that is the unbelievable thing. that is the echo unbelievable thing. that is the echthese young people in. >> these young people are in. the who has got the influencer who has got 3 million but she hasn't. >> she's got less now, actually. and uses word in her and she uses this word in her interview triggered interview scarlett of triggered i was triggered which is what that means is you're he touched upon a sensitive issue and therefore she emotionally reacted . it's like a kind of

reacted. it's like a kind of lack of awareness of really of your of your own drivers in your mind, isn't it. your of your own drivers in your mind, isn't it . yeah. mind, isn't it. yeah. >> i mean i mean , frankly, it's >> i mean i mean, frankly, it's about making excuses once you're out isn't it. i mean really it's somebody told her that actually what she did and what she said went down really badly and she's now trying to sort of work her way through it. it's clearly absolute rubbish. >> let me tell a conversation with her conversation with fred was offensive and he was utterly bewildered by it. >> but he hasn't he hasn't acquitted himself very well. he either bullied everybody, but i'll tell you, you're exactly right, because her agent is jonathan shalit, very famous agent. >> we all know him, who brought on charlotte and many on charlotte church and many other people . other famous people. >> he have she'll have >> and he will have she'll have come and he'll have said, come out and he'll have said, right, is you've got right, this is what you've got to now. you're to save to do now. you're going to save your because the your future career. because the whole itv were already whole point of itv were already to give load stuff to give her a load of stuff because they liked they because they liked her. they thought a thought she was going to be a big star. she appalling. big star. she was appalling. yeah, no one likes yeah, well, i mean, no one likes her, and. and i'm hoping to god

itv just dump her now. her, and. and i'm hoping to god itvand dump her now. her, and. and i'm hoping to god itvand dunwasar now. her, and. and i'm hoping to god itvand dunwas appalling, wasn't she? >> because know. she? >> i ecause know. she? >> i mean, know. she? >> i mean, i know. she? >> i mean, i didn'tw. she? >> i mean, i didn't watch it, so i only saw the clips. but that's all you needed to. >> yeah. yeah. all you needed to. >> and|. yeah. all you needed to. >> and sheah. all you needed to. >> and she is. all you needed to. >> and she is a nice. >> he was just utterly bewildered she did say in her >> she did. she did say in her interview ant and dec when interview with ant and dec when she came out, she said, well, i was there to stir the pot. she said i wanted to stir the pot. she said, deliberate? she said, was it deliberate? which what you said, which was kind of what you said, that she doing that she knew what she was doing and but she was and maybe she but she was astonished be voted out so astonished to be voted out so quickly, wasn't she? >> glad out. >> i'm glad she's out. >> i'm glad she's out. >> you it would be >> don't you think it would be better could vote them out better if we could vote them out rather keep them rather than vote to keep them in? it depends. in? well it depends. >> if you're driven by >> if you're if you're driven by rage and negativity or positivity, you're voting to keep many people >> think how many people would vote get rid of him? vote to get rid of him? >> they wouldn't he >> they wouldn't know. he is saying remain for the saying vote to remain for the first time in his life and he he owns the jungle. >> clever, but he's >> he's very clever, but he's saying as he can't saying here as well he can't believe camp are believe how lovely the camp are being. yeah, yeah. being. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> been. >> there have been. >> there have been. >> because you may not >> because nigel, you may not find difficult scarlett. find might difficult scarlett. he charming actually. he is a charming man, actually. >> andrew clever. i'm interviewed by nigel quite often. he's all we need to move

on. >> even to you. >> even to you. >> scarlett mccgwire. carole malone. thank so we've malone. thank you so much. we've got to the end of another week for good afternoon, for us. up next, good afternoon, britain with and emily. see britain with tom and emily. see you monday . you monday. >> see then. yes. coming up >> see you then. yes. coming up on the we'll be digesting on the show, we'll be digesting what rishi sunak had to say at that presser. >> some tetchy questions asked of prime minister. he says of the prime minister. he says robert jenrick, his former immigration minister, is simply is not right when it comes to rwanda policy. it will work, in his view. well there's only one way to find out, isn't it? >> we'll out soon. >> we'll find out soon. >> we'll find out soon. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsor hours up. boxt boilers sponsor hours of weather on gb news is . of weather on gb news is. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. it's going to be a very wet day for much of the uk. there are rain warnings in force, but it is starting to feel a little bit milder. that's because our winds are changing to a south southwesterly and that milder atlantic air is going be spreading across the

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