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our money kogami lunchtime, take our money kogami the new rwanda treaty has seen a further £100 million sent to the east african nation, which is still yet to receive a single channel. >> migrant is this a good use of taxpayer money? so setback for harry. >> the duke of sussex has lost his bid to throw out the mail on sunday's libel defence. prince harry has also claimed he was forced to step back from royal dufies forced to step back from royal duties and leave for the us. an and we're live in county tipperary for the funeral of shane macgowan . shane macgowan. >> take a listen to this from just moments ago . choir was just moments ago. choir was singing galway bay and the bells were ringing of christmas day . were ringing of christmas day. >> oh, it's lovely to see. well, we'll be live in county tipperary for the funeral of shane macgowan, of course , the shane macgowan, of course, the legendary lead singer of the pogues , who passed away last pogues, who passed away last week, aged 65. the irish president's going to be in attendance, as well as johnny depp and the musician nick cave .
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depp and the musician nick cave. and on nigel farage in the jungle. >> we can't miss this. he got through another round of i'm a celebrity last night and is now in the final five. the top five. >> it's astonishing . could he do >> it's astonishing. could he do much better ? might he get ahead much better? might he get ahead of where matt hancock came ? of where matt hancock came? could he even be made king well, so this is the first time nigel farage is asking you to vote remain. >> if you want to vote for him, grab your phone scan the qr code on screen and download the app. you can vote for him five times per day for free. it's all for free. >> amazing. and what better value can you get for your time than annoying all of the people that will get so very irritated if nigel farage becomes king of the jungle? >> well, there is that anton deck. can you imagine their
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faces when they crown him king of the jungle? >> more than that, can you imagine? matt hancock's face if nigel comes even second, he would have done better . nigel comes even second, he would have done better. former health secretary. >> it could happen at this point. so let's make him king of the jungle. it will make his yean the jungle. it will make his year. it can make his life. it is a great, you know, thing to receive. is it not? >> well, if he can't get elected to parliament, this is the next best isn't it? to parliament, this is the next besbetter isn't it? to parliament, this is the next besbetter thant it? to parliament, this is the next besbetter than any goal? to parliament, this is the next besthatzr than any goal? to parliament, this is the next besthat wasan any goal? to parliament, this is the next besthat was a any goal? to parliament, this is the next besthat was a low goal? to parliament, this is the next besthat was a low blow.’ to parliament, this is the next besthat was a low blow. well, >> that was a low blow. well, of course. us know your course. let us know your thoughts all of the talking thoughts in all of the talking points setting out points that we're setting out today. vaiews@gbnews.com is the address all address to email. but before all of that, here's tatiana sanchez with news headlines . with your news headlines. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. 12:02. this is the latest the prime minister is facing growing pressure over his rwanda policy after it emerged the cost of the scheme has reached £240 million. ministers expect a further 50 million will
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be spent in the coming year, bringing the total to £290 million before any flights have taken off. rishi sunak , who's taken off. rishi sunak, who's facing division within his party over the asylum plan, has vowed to finish the job and hopes to rush emergency legislation through parliament. the first vote will be held on tuesday . vote will be held on tuesday. downing street has rejected suggestions that mr sunak has misled mps over the cost of the scheme . a 16 year old boy has scheme. a 16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murdering a woman who was shot deadin murdering a woman who was shot dead in east london. 42 year old leanne gordon was killed in hackney on tuesday evening. she was one of three people found with gunshot wounds and a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy were taken to hospital . boy were taken to hospital. prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. it means the case now must go to trial. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal
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challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements . his security arrangements. his lawyers say the story was an attack on his integrity and would undermine his charity work. associate newspapers limited argues it expressed honest opinion and caused no serious harm to prince harry's reputation . an a blast that reputation. an a blast that damaged a ulez camera in south east london has been described as grotesquely irresponsible by the london mayor's office. counter—terror police are leading an investigation into the incident in sidcup on wednesday night. while it's not being treated as terrorism , the being treated as terrorism, the explosion is believed to have been deliberate act. the been a deliberate act. the decision to expand the ulez area to cover the whole of london from late august has sparked a surge in vandalism . commuters surge in vandalism. commuters have been facing severe travel disruption after hundreds of passengers were left stranded on cold and dark trains in west london last night. cold and dark trains in west london last night . damage was london last night. damage was caused to overhead electricity wires after a train struck an
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obstruction outside london. paddington, meaning power, had to be switched for off footage shows people huddled in darkness , with some people using the train tracks as toilets. some described the ordeal as surreal and said it felt like a war time thing . more travel chaos is thing. more travel chaos is expected due to ongoing walkouts by train drivers in their long running dispute over pay . it's running dispute over pay. it's the final day of a number of strikes by aslef union members . strikes by aslef union members. cancellations are taking place across services on northern trains and transpennine express. the aslef general secretary, mick whelan and union members are calling for an 8% pay increase over two years . the increase over two years. the four biggest mobile network operators are being accused of overcharging up to 28.2 million customer fees. vodafone ee three and o2 customer fees. vodafone ee three and 02 were accused of penalising loyal customers, meaning they paid more than new customers for the same services as they now face a £3 billion
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plus claim made by former citizens advice executive justin gutmann, alleging they used their market dominance to overcharge people on uk contracts. gutmann and the law firm charles linden are seeking damages of at least £3.2 billion. the foreign secretary has refuted claims he's interfering with us politics by urging lawmakers to vote through a package of support for ukraine. it's after the us congress failed to pass an £88 billion package of wartime funding for ukraine and israel . funding for ukraine and israel. lord cameron says blocking ukraine aid would be a christmas present to the russian president . and a funeral procession for shane macgowan is taking place in dublin . shane macgowan is taking place in dublin. dillian shane macgowan is taking place in dublin . dillian whyte in dublin. dillian whyte meanwhile singing in galway bay and the bells were ringing out for christmas day . the for christmas day. the songwriter who found fame as the lead singer of irish punk band
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the pogues, died last week at the age of 65. the group is behind the huge christmas hit fairytale of new york. people are lining the streets to pay their respects as his coffin draped in the irish tricolour , draped in the irish tricolour, travels through the city centre . travels through the city centre. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily to tom and. emily >> good afternoon, britain . the >> good afternoon, britain. the government could be open to compromise with rebel tory mps unhappy with rishi sunak's rwanda legislation. that's according to the new legal migration minister. >> it comes as it's been revealed the cost of the rwanda scheme has absolutely soared . to scheme has absolutely soared. to £240 million and that's of course before any flights have
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even taken off. >> the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , says how many yvette cooper, says how many more blank checks will rishi sunak write before the tories come clean about this scheme being a total farce ? britons being a total farce? britons simply cannot afford more of this costly chaos from the conservatives. although given that it was a specified number of 240 million, i'm not sure that's the same thing as a blank cheque. yes well, it does appear as though it is getting to that state of affairs, though, isn't it? >> we're expecting another £50 million to be sent to rwanda next year and of course, there's a lot of contention around how many actual places there will be for asylum seekers. illegal migrants in this country who are eventually , if and when eventually, if and when eventually, if and when eventually sent out to rwanda. the government there's only a couple of hundred as it stands. >> the government maintains, however, it's an open ended scheme. no cap, but scheme. there is no cap, but there been wide variety there have been a wide variety of different reports in terms of how many spaces there have actually been constructed in
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rwanda, although when our homeland security editor mark white visited some of these sites being built in the east african country , he was saying african country, he was saying that actually there's a lot more than has been reported . than has been reported. >> and that's very interesting. but it won't be an easy morning for the prime minister to wake up to when you're looking at the headunes up to when you're looking at the headlines this morning across all of the papers , a tory all of the papers, a tory revolt. rwanda plan in chaos covering . covering those front covering. covering those front pages. >> and of course, it's not just the newspapers here on gb news. french police officers have told us they are overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant crisis in northern france. they're struggling to make a meaningful impact on those trying to cross the uk by small boats and even inside lorries. >> yes, although uk politicians are fixated on the very visible and high profile small boats crisis , thousands of migrants crisis, thousands of migrants are still risking their lives to sneak onto the back of trucks. >> well, our homeland security editor mark white, witnessed the chaos around the port of calais
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and young men diced with death in their attempts to jump aboard uk bound lorries . uk bound lorries. >> all around the port of calais, even in broad daylight, these migrants are everywhere looking for transport across the channel they're opportunists . channel they're opportunists. often young african men who have no money to buy a place on a small boat, opting instead to clamber aboard trucks through the security fence . this young the security fence. this young man is trying to stay out of sight. next to a roundabout, waiting for the moment. lorries slow down here in the hope of jumping aboard while the uk politicians are fixing did with the small boats crisis . the small boats crisis. politicians here say the lorry crisis is just as bad . crisis is just as bad. >> there are clearly those who can afford a boat trip, but many, many others who have no money who see the lorries that
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pass through the port in their thousands as the only realistic way of getting to the uk via . way of getting to the uk via. >> and as bad as things are dufing >> and as bad as things are during daylight, it's at night when it truly gets crazy here. we're on our way to a lorry park on the outskirts of calais, where we're told that after dark, my grunts appear looking for a suitable trailer to stow away inside tight for the journey to the uk . you don't journey to the uk. you don't have to look far to spot the migrants. they're everywhere here we film as one clambers into the back of this lorry disappearing out of sight every time a new truck parks up here. within seconds as they're swarming around , checking the swarming around, checking the doors, probing for weak spots to get inside . those we spoke to get inside. those we spoke to are from sudan. they're here night after night. >> i have two months here. two months? yeah.
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>> we're trying every night. >> we're trying every night. >> yes. >> yes. >> and do they discover you on the lorries? do they find you? yeah, i go to port security . yeah, i go to port security. >> they take me. i go to port here like this every day. yeah >> wow. and you're just going to keep trying until you get to the uk? yeah suddenly the migrants are on the run, scattering as an unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park. but unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . but talking to the lorry park. but talking to these officers, they tell us they're completely overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant problem here. and despite the extra money from the uk, they say they don't have the resources to make a meaningful impact on both the small boats and lorry crisis . quite often and lorry crisis. quite often when the migrants try to get in the back of these lorries, they end up damaging them, cutting the guide cables or sometimes even cutting their way through the roof. so what you find is that of the lorry drivers that some of the lorry drivers do this. they just leave their back door open so that people
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can see right down inside the lorry. they see it's empty . lorry. they see it's empty. there's no point in getting into that lorry because they're going to be found out . migrant after to be found out. migrant after migrant tells the same story like majid here. it's london. they're determined to reach and you will keep trying to get to london. >> london? yes i go to london. >> london? yes i go to london. >> within minutes, majid and his friends are around the latest lorry to arrive . but the driver lorry to arrive. but the driver sees them and tries, telling them there's no point in climbing aboard. as he's heading to belgium , it's clear they to belgium, it's clear they don't believe him. and as he pulls out of the lorry park , pulls out of the lorry park, unbelievably just visible on the roof. here is 15 year old majid . roof. here is 15 year old majid. when we catch up with the lorry on the motorway , the driver has on the motorway, the driver has discovered majid and another migrant pulling over as they jump migrant pulling over as they jump . off they're dicing with
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jump. off they're dicing with death . migrants have been death. migrants have been injured and killed on these roads, but that doesn't put them off. and they're more determined than ever to reach the uk . mark than ever to reach the uk. mark white gb news calais extra ordinary footage. >> they're really, really stark andifs >> they're really, really stark and it's to easy forget that it's still going on the lorries were the big story a few years ago before the boats. but but it's happening concurrently. it's still very much continuing. >> mark white joins us now to tell us more. now mark, we were told by the government that this was one of their big successes, that they'd stopped or massively reduced of albanians reduced the number of albanians coming across the channel well, do we find out from what you've found out that actually albanians are just finding other means , as perhaps in lorries ? means, as perhaps in lorries? >> yes. i mean, rishi sunak is right when he says that the number of albanians coming across in the boats is down 90. but we spoke to a source very close to the people smuggling
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operation in the camps who says that all that's happening is they are coming in by other routes. they have not stopped coming to the uk and in fact, they never wanted to come in to join the asylum system anyway. they wanted to come to in work in the illegal economy for a year or two and then go back to albania . so it's a diversion on albania. so it's a diversion on to go into the asylum system. and most albanians that do that just disappear after for a few days or a week or so in a hotel anyway, because this is say what they want to do is earn money to send to their families back home. so what they're doing now that the boat issue is there and alive, when they know that if they're taken off a boat, they'll get detained and then return to albania fairly quickly is they are coming via lorry now. they're .
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now. they're. not doing what . we now. they're. not doing what. we lorry drivers and they are paying lorry drivers and they are paying them to take them in the back of their lorries across europe and across the channel, either by ferry or in the tunnel. they're so these lorry drivers are complicit in this. they're approached by the criminal gangs and they then , criminal gangs and they then, you know, are willing. participant, participant s in this criminal enterprise . and of this criminal enterprise. and of course if they're then not discovered in the back of the lorry, then they've done what they wanted to do in the first place, which is to get to the uk undetected, to work in the illegal economy. >> and yet it's a lot harder to travel by lorry than it was perhaps a decade ago. we saw a little bit of it in your clip . little bit of it in your clip. the infrastructure around the port of calais, the miles and
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miles of fencing layers of very sort of modern equipment, all funded by the brits, incidentally , with with barbed incidentally, with with barbed wire and all the rest of it and random spot checks for these lorries . there has been a lot of lorries. there has been a lot of work going in to stop this. surely it's lower than it had beenin surely it's lower than it had been in the past. >> yeah, i mean, that's absolutely true, tom. it was dufing absolutely true, tom. it was during theresa may's time as home secretary that a lot of the extra investment went to the french again to beef up security around the ports and the roads around the ports and the roads around some of the road networks in calais. but all that's happened really is that the migrants have just gone to areas where that infrastructure isn't in place. so a bit further out in place. so a bit further out in cali , i in place. so a bit further out in cali, i mean, in place. so a bit further out in cali , i mean, even up to in cali, i mean, even up to belgium over the border in belgium over the border in belgium , um, some of the lorry belgium, um, some of the lorry parks there are, are controlled by people, traffickers and the migrants arrive there and go on
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to the back of the lorries and often though when they get to the port there's no checks, not 100% of the lorries by any means , but quite a few of the lorries are checked and these young men are checked and these young men are discovered and they're thrown off the lorries . but all thrown off the lorries. but all they do, majid , that 15 year old they do, majid, that 15 year old from sudan and others that we spoke to over the last couple of days told us that they just try night after night after night because they know that eventually that lorry that they're on will not be checked. and they'll get through to the uk job done as far as they're concerned . concerned. >> and thank you very much indeed, mark white, our homeland security editor , with that security editor, with that exclusive from calais . exclusive from calais. >> extraordinary thing, that footage. i mean, you know, it goes on, but to see it so blatantly be happening there before cameras , it's just before our cameras, it's just just remarkable. remarkable footage. we'll talking to footage. we'll be talking to mark, later in the mark, of course, later in the programme, but as we programme, too. but as we mentioned, before speaking mentioned, just before speaking to has revealed
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to mark, it has been revealed the cost of the rwanda scheme has soared to a whopping £240 million, and that's before any flights. >> not one single flight has even taken off. >> yes, let's do the maths now with conservative mp for lichfield, sir michael fabricant, who joins us now. michael, do you think this is good value for money? >> it'll be good for value money. if it works, then that is the whole question. we've got to vote on the principle of it. on tuesday, the rwanda . bill, it's tuesday, the rwanda. bill, it's the second reading, so we're just talking about do we want to send people to rwanda? so i'll be voting for it whether it'll work in practice. well, the prime minister told me at the 1922 on wednesday night that it will work. but if we need to put down amendments to try and strengthen it up a little bit, then we'll have to do so later on the committee stage. but on at the committee stage. but yeah, i'll tell you what, though. mark white's report just now was absolutely shocking. as you said, tom, worth
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remembering, though, that . 85% remembering, though, that. 85% of illegal immigrants do still come by small boats and about 15% by trucks because they generally get detected if they do manage to get onto a truck at the british end because the trucks drive through a sort of x ray machine , a giant x ray ray machine, a giant x ray machine, it's not actually x rays, but it does detect if people are on board. but then of course, they're put into migrant camps or posh hotels. >> michael , camps or posh hotels. >> michael, are you a bit worried about the state of your party? >> because looking at the front pages this morning absolutely dominated by growing rebellion in prime minister, potentially me being ousted , lots and lots me being ousted, lots and lots of negative headlines day after day after day. >> well , i day after day. >> well, i think people have got bored and they shouldn't be bored and they shouldn't be bored with what's happening in ukraine. and what's happening in gaza and so i think some
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journalists are putting in, you know, stories about this. look, of course, it is a worry . but at of course, it is a worry. but at the moment , of course, it is a worry. but at the moment, let's just see how well we do when it comes to the vote on tuesday night at 7:00 on the rwanda bill. i actually think, you know, people want you know, rishi sunak to succeed because we do need to deter the numbers of people coming over here. but you know what's quite interesting is we've had some successes as it's been reduced by a third, whereas in the rest of europe, immigration is still going up and 90% of albanians are now being returned home because, michael, i'm sure you've seen michael , because, michael, i'm sure you've seen michael, i'm sure you've seen michael, i'm sure you've seen michael, i'm sure you've seen mark white's exclusive from yesterday , where exclusive from yesterday, where people on the ground are saying that actually the reason why those boat trips have gone down isn't necessarily because of government policy . government policy. >> it's actually because of the people smugglers themselves trying to drive up demand and
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drive the cost of these of drive up the cost of these of these crossings. so it's all part of money making scheme i >> -- >> well, i didn't actually see mark. i'd normally watch . i mark. i'd normally watch. i normally have on my tv glued in my office. i think tom knows this. it's like personal as all good mps do. >> michael but wasn't around yesterday so much. >> so didn't see it was trying to drive back through driving rain to talk to a school in burntwood in my constituency . burntwood in my constituency. >> michael let's just zoom in on what the conservative party has been talking about this week. there's been a lot of critics schism over a tweet. i'm sure you've seen it. it's been the point of much discussion this morning. yesterday the official conservative party account posting a picture of a bbc newsreader putting a middle finger up to the camera. here's the tweet . it says labour when the tweet. it says labour when you ask for their plans to tackle illegal migration of course, millions upon millions
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of people have seen this tweet . of people have seen this tweet. what do you think? it was appropriate ? yes, i think it was appropriate? yes, i think it was appropriate? yes, i think it was a huge mistake because i think they thought it was a labour mp and not a newsreader , for she's and not a newsreader, for she's and not a newsreader, for she's a good newsreader , but she's not a good newsreader, but she's not very well known . very well known. >> and i actually think it was the case of mistaken identity . the case of mistaken identity. and i'll tell you what, here's my challenge to richard holden. you should fess up now. the party chairman of the party and say , we got that one wrong say, we got that one wrong because we actually thought it was somebody else. michael i have to say, the party has been digging in. >> been saying they >> they've been saying they won't delete this tweet because it raises an important in it raises an important point in their view . their view. >> well, think it's just >> well, i think it's just created controversy . created controversy. >> it's self—evident. i think , >> it's self—evident. i think, look, if you make a mistake and by do i make mistakes when i make mistakes, too, i'm pretty quick and people forgive me because, you know what? we're all human. and i think it was a
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case of mistaken identity. >> well, it has raised the question of what labour's illegal migration policy is. so that's a plus, i guess, for the conservatives point of view, nobody knows, including the labour party . well, thank you labour party. well, thank you very much indeed for your time as always, sir. michael fabficant as always, sir. michael fabricant of course, what the labour party would say is that they to do deals more deals they want to do deals more deals with france, perhaps a return to agreement the european agreement with the european union, others, of union, although others, of course, have raised the potential that potential pitfalls of that approach not swapping approach, not least swapping migrants between countries. >> and you might end up with more than you started with. >> time will tell. >> only time will tell. but coming talking prince coming up, we're talking prince harry claims he was forced harry as he claims he was forced forced step back from royal forced to step back from royal dufies forced to step back from royal duties and leave for the united states . is that right? go states. is that right? don't go anywhere
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> well, the trade union congress held a special press conference today after their general secretary called prime minister rishi sunak paul nowak, the tuc general secretary , said the tuc general secretary, said the tuc general secretary, said the new anti—strike laws have created a galvanising moment for the uk's trade union movement . the uk's trade union movement. >> galvanising what on earth are they planning ? well, gb news they planning? well, gb news political correspondent olivia utley was at the press conference and joins us now. olivia this is unusual. this the last time this sort of thing has happened was back in margaret thatcher's time in office. what's the trade union movement up to? >> well, galvanising is absolutely the word. they were very strong words from the tuc
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representatives at the congress meeting today . essentially, they meeting today. essentially, they are proposing a push back against the minimum service legislation which came into effect on thursday. what the minimum minimum service legislation means is that under a new law, anyone services will have to provide a minimum level of cover. so whether that's, for example, providing chemotherapy to patients during a doctor's strike or whether it's running a certain number of trains on the days of rail strikes. now, how that will work is that employers will have the right to serve a work notice to striking workers and ordering them to come into work if they don't come into work if they don't come into work after that. work notice has been sent out, then they risk getting sacked. and if unions don't compel them to come into work, then those unions risk getting sued. now the government has argued that that's simply bringing the uk into line with france, spain , italy and plenty
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france, spain, italy and plenty of other major european countries which already have minimum service levels in place. but the trade unions are up in arms about this . they want to arms about this. they want to get the law repealed . but in the get the law repealed. but in the meantime, what they want to do is they want to take the fight to employers. i'm just going to employers. and i'm just going to employers. and i'm just going to what kate bell said to quote what kate bell said about she said, sorry, one about that. she said, sorry, one second , but unions won't rest second, but unions won't rest until these laws are repealed. decent employers won't want to touch these laws . but a word of touch these laws. but a word of warning to any who do. we will kick off a nationwide campaign to name and shame all employers who deploy work work notices . who deploy work work notices. they will rightly be branded as anti—union and anti—worker. so essentially, she's saying that the government have passed this law. but if employers make use of it , then they will be of it, then they will be essentially demonised by the trade unions. their argument is that there is already a level of safety in place for the public. when strikers strike, they are they're asking for as much as
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they're asking for as much as they possibly can do. i quizzed her on this. i quizzed her if that patients are actually safe dufing that patients are actually safe during during doctors strikes. and this is what she had to say. >> well, look, the chief of the nhs providers organisation has said that this legislation risks prolonging industrial disputes and making the situation worse , and making the situation worse, basically. so i think we've had very clear indication from nhs mps lawyers that the best way to protect patient safety is to resolve industrial action through disputes, through negotiation i'm sorry, through negotiation. and of course to put the investment into our nhs that everybody here, i think knows it so badly needs. well, i think as sam outlined , there are think as sam outlined, there are already life and limb cover arrangements in place and frankly, i think it's pretty insulting to our public sector workers who every day are out there protecting public safety in some of the hardest conditions we've seen for many, many years. to suggest that they do not have the interests of patients , lots of other people, patients, lots of other people, you know, front of mind when
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they are taking action. and as so many of those public servants who i've spoken to on picket lines, you know, this year have said they are taking strike action to protect public safety because investment , you know, because investment, you know, the lack of staff retention is the lack of staff retention is the major issue, the lack of staffing across our public services is pay and conditions is at the heart of that. and that's what they're taking action to protect. look, unions and workers always do . you know, and workers always do. you know, we'll always have those agreements in place to protect life and limb cover. that's what they're clear about. and i don't think legislation going they're clear about. and i don't thimake legislation going they're clear about. and i don't thimake the gislation going they're clear about. and i don't thimake the situation going they're clear about. and i don't thimake the situation betterg they're clear about. and i don't thimake the situation better . to make the situation better. >> well, as you can see, there was no clear answer on whether patients were actually kept safe dufing patients were actually kept safe during the last doctors strike. and that's exactly why the government is saying that is government is saying that it is introducing . introducing this legislation. but it's going to be a very, very tough ride for the government to actually put it into if employers are so into action if employers are so terrified by the tuc mounting a nationwide campaign against them that they're too afraid ever to actually serve one of those work
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notices. yes, quite the threat. >> thank you very much indeed, olivia utley. and thanks for putting that question to her there. thank you for your time, olivia utley our news olivia utley our gb news reporter outside tuc reporter outside the tuc congress. essentially, they congress. so essentially, they want to threaten employers to take on these types of regulations and restrictions and, and, and yeah, such an important question that olivia utley put to that representative because what are we talking about about minimum service legislation , a minimum service legislation, a minimum service life saving care, chemo therapy being maintained , ensuring that being maintained, ensuring that life and limb are protected. >> and what is this action being taken to do, this action is being taken out to ensure that trade unions don't have to cover by law that care and trade unions can withdraw . unions can withdraw. >> we've already seen that thousands of appointments have been cancelled during strikes .
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been cancelled during strikes. anyway, we'll come back to this. but your headlines but first, it's your headlines with tatiana . emily thank you. with tatiana. emily thank you. >> your top stories from the newsroom. downing street says the extra £100 million spent on the extra £100 million spent on the rwanda scheme was signed off by the former home secretary suella braverman. it brings the total to £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers are expecting a further £50 million will be spentin further £50 million will be spent in the coming year. number 10 has rejected suggestions that the prime minister misled mps over the cost of the asylum plan . a 16 year old boy has been . a16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murdering leon gordon in east london. the 42 year old was shot deadin london. the 42 year old was shot dead in hackney on tuesday evening. a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy also suffered gunshot wounds. 16 year old boy also suffered gunshot wounds . prince harry has gunshot wounds. prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday.
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it means the case must go to trial . the it means the case must go to trial. the duke of it means the case must go to trial . the duke of sussex is trial. the duke of sussex is suing associate newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements . and his security arrangements. and mourners are paying tribute to the pogues frontman shane macgowan . while singing galway macgowan. while singing galway bay . bay. >> and the bells were ringing out for christmas day . christmas out for christmas day. christmas hit fairytale of new york was just one of many of the songs sung as his cortege made its way through the streets of dublin. >> the songwriter died last week aged 65. the irish president and celebrities are expected to attend his funeral later. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com .
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going to not eat it while i speak. prince has lost speak. prince harry has lost a bid. moving on to royals, bid. we're moving on to royals, of prince harry lost of course, prince harry has lost a throw out a newspaper a bid to throw out a newspaper publishers defence to libel claim the duke of sussex has sued associated newspapers over an article written last year regarding his action taken against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements when he was in the uk. his security arrangements when he was in the uk . are you he was in the uk. are you following associated newspapers? limited is contesting the claim, arguing that the article expressed an honest opinion and did not cause serious harm to the prince's reputation . so how the prince's reputation. so how much of a knock back is this outside the royal courts of justice is gb news london reporter lisa hartle lisa prince harry will be disappointed with this . this. >> hello . yes. so it might seem >> hello. yes. so it might seem a little confusing, this case so what we were waiting to hear and what we were waiting to hear and what we were waiting to hear and what we heard from today was the actual written ruling from the judge on the defence of the associated newspapers. so prince harry's team were wanted. the
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defence stripped, struck off basically. so this all originated from an article, as you said, in february last year discussing prince harry and his legal battle with the home office over protection for him and his family when he's in the u.k. now, harry's legal lawyers say that the article , which say that the article, which claimed harry tried to keep details of his legal battle to reinstate the police protection secret from the public was an attack on his honesty and integrity and would undermine his charity work. now, the publishers say their defence is that it was not an ordinary news article, a factual news article, but instead this was an opinion piece. and so therefore their defence is honest opinion. and the judge upheld that. today we could have gone two ways if the judge had struck that off, then perhaps the two parties wouldn't have gone to trial and the two parties have come to some parties would have come to some settlement. but as the judge said that the claim will said today, that the claim will now go through other pre—trial
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phases. and unless some kind of settlement does happen, this will go to trial at a date yet to be decided next year . to be decided next year. >> so this is not the conclusion of this by any means. this was simply prince harry trying to kibosh one of the defences from the people he was suing. but that attempt to close it all off today has not worked . yes today has not worked. yes >> and this, of course, comes just a day after a high court, the high court finished hearing another case where prince harry is battling against the home office's decision in from february 2020 to change the police protection that he and his family have in the uk. so that concluded yesterday and that concluded yesterday and that again, a separate case, but that's due again, a ruling on that's due again, a ruling on thatis that's due again, a ruling on that is due to be heard in the future at a date that we're yet to hear. >> it's hard to keep up with all of these various cases. >> thank you much. lisa >> thank you very much. lisa hartle news, london reporter hartle gb news, london reporter outside the high courts of the
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royal justice. royal courts of justice. >> has really, >> well, that has really, i think, cleared because think, cleared up a lot because there are many different there are so many different legal that it seems legal challenges that it seems like doing nothing with his like he's doing nothing with his time to sue time other than trying to sue people. but his passion, isn't it , staying with harry, he has it, staying with harry, he has also claimed he was forced to step back from royal duties and forced to leave for the united states . states. >> was he? >> was he? >> well, the duke of sussex insisted the uk was his home and spoke about it being a matter of great sadness that he and his wife, meghan markle , were wife, meghan markle, were forced, forced to step back from their role and leave the country. three years ago. nothing at all to do with wanting to earn hundreds of millions of dollars in hollywood i >> -- >> well, 5mm m >> well, this is interesting. let's speak to michael cole, royal correspondent, to get his views on this. is this a bit of revisionism from the duke? i remember them leaving the royal family quite, quite happily. remember them leaving the royal family quite, quite happily . was family quite, quite happily. was that not the case? was he forced ? >> 7- >> good ? >> good afternoon, 7 >> good afternoon, emily. good afternoon , tom. where's my
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afternoon, tom. where's my chocolate , by the way ? chocolate, by the way? >> we'll get one sent to you. we will. >> i have to say that you've summarised this tangled web very expertly with your reporter down at the at the high court. um prince harry is now the undisputed prince of litigation. he has five separate cases active in the british courts. and as you said , emily, this and as you said, emily, this stems back to 2020 when rather hurriedly he and his family left as i recall, on a scheduled flight for canada to vancouver . flight for canada to vancouver. and they settled there in various houses or and the canadian federal government rapidly got fed up with paying for the cost of round the clock armed protection . so they went armed protection. so they went to california and they now live in a hilltop fortress guarded 24 over seven by teams of security,
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people who they pay for. now, what harry says, he says that he had to leave britain . in 2020 had to leave britain. in 2020 because because the protection that he had enjoyed before then had been had been re rescinded because he was stepping back from his royal role. and he said he could not tolerate being in britain and putting his wife and his family in danger. so he's gone to california, where i do believe that the murder rate is rather more than it is in this country. but we'll leave that aside for a moment. what the what the home office says is that when he comes to this country, they will make bespoke arrangements tailored arrangements tailored arrangements for his security. but what they're not going to do because resources are limited, they are finite, is provide round the clock armed protection for him when he's here and he says that he's been unfairly treated, that he's been
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discriminated against by the committee of the home office that decides on this these matters for prominent people. and of course , it is a big and of course, it is a big undertaking . three shifts of undertaking. three shifts of burly men and women around the clock every day of the year is a very costly business. so that's what it's all about. as you say in the libel case, which is quite interesting against the mail on sunday, associated newspapers , he's lost his his newspapers, he's lost his his his attempt to stop them putting up a proper defence and their defence is on whether when he decided to go to canada initially and whether that was before or after the decision about the withdrawal of his protection and he maintains that he approached the home office and he was offering to pay for police protection . well, that
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police protection. well, that was struck down by a court . of was struck down by a court. of course, we cannot possibly have a situation when any individual is allowed to buy up the police and have them as their personal protection agents . it would be protection agents. it would be impossible, impossible . and the impossible, impossible. and the courts so decided . so that's courts so decided. so that's where we are . it's ongoing. most where we are. it's ongoing. most of this stuff will be shaken out in the new year. but he carries on. he's a he's very determined to get justice. he's suing two newspaper groups for invasion of privacy and other civil wrongs. and you and i will be reporting this in the new year. >> michael, how much do these legal cases actually matter? is it is it not the case that perhaps in the court of public opinion, people might have already made up their minds on this sort of thing and the idea that it prince harry feels like he was forced out of the country and whether or not that was sort
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of his legally found to be a solid idea or not. but isn't it the case that generally people will have made their minds up on this issue? i think it is the case, tom, you make an absolutely brilliant point. >> the british people eventually may take some time, always get the right idea about people . the right idea about people. i've seen it over the years and i've seen it over the years and i've been a journalist for 61 years. the british people do make their own minds up in the end. now, if i were giving him pubuc end. now, if i were giving him public relations advice , which public relations advice, which of course i'm not, i would have said , don't do it. going to said, don't do it. going to court is always a perilous business. apart from being expensive and time consuming and very, very rarely do the plaintiffs get the justice that they think is due. i would say suckit they think is due. i would say suck it up , move on, get on with suck it up, move on, get on with your life, enjoy it. look after your life, enjoy it. look after your family. be happy. you know you've got more money than we can think about. you've got two healthy, beautiful children. you've got a lovely wife . are
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you've got a lovely wife. are millions of people admire you? other people don't. but there you are. you've chosen your your route. the old expression is you've made your bed and lie in it and going through the courts is not really edifying for a prince of the royal blood in my humble opinion. >> i guess now he started he has to finish the process. but it must be quite fatiguing for him. but thank you very much for your time. michael cole, former bbc royal correspondent. brilliant as ever. >> well, in other news now, images of men detained in huge numbers by the israeli military and stripped to their underwear, blindfolded as well as kneeling on the street have circulated on social media. >> yes, the idf claim the men are captured , hamas terrorists, are captured, hamas terrorists, but several have questioned if the extreme and humiliating measures were necessary. >> well , joining us is professor >> well, joining us is professor eugene kontorovich, director of international law at the coquettes policy forum. >> thank you so much for your time. is there an element of
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this that feels more like revenge and perhaps a sense, perhaps a justified sense that the israeli people have for retrograde action rather than strictly necessary in a military operation ? operation? >> so these are military aged men which israel has detained on suspicion of being members of hamas . and i think it doesn't hamas. and i think it doesn't look like revenge if you put it in context. and the context is how the uk, how the united states militaries in afghanistan and iraq deal with people who may be suspected terrorists . and may be suspected terrorists. and in all those contact , its in all those contact, its militaries have had people take off their clothes , because i off their clothes, because i think it's not not out of the question that hamas, a terrorist organisation in which tortures rape and dismembers civilians , rape and dismembers civilians, hides in hospitals, hides in ambulances , may have some people ambulances, may have some people surrender with potentially
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weapons on them or even suicide vests, which have also been found in gaza strip. so the question is, what's the other way to find out? are you going to send them a questionnaire? are going give them a are you going to give them a pull, affidavit fill pull, an affidavit to fill out? and why both the united and that is why both the united states and the uk do measures like this. >> also, it's quite shocking to see the photos . it's interesting see the photos. it's interesting that the israeli government shared these photos so widespread on social media. it does open up israel and its military efforts. well, opens up to more criticism. can we be sure whether those in these pictures are are hamas are extreme terrorists or whether they are civilians? that's the question that many people are asking. who exactly are these people that have been stripped and are being held in this way? it's the question that hamas forces us to ask , because, of forces us to ask, because, of course, hamas has put us in this situation by not wearing uniforms, by routinely walking around ununiformed, attacking israelis while dressed as
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civilians , that you can't assume civilians, that you can't assume the fact that someone is not does not have a uniform, is a civilian. >> now, these were a group of military aged males, only military aged males, only military aged males, a large group who were together in one place in an area of gaza which had been largely evacuated by civilians, as i understand . so civilians, as i understand. so that certainly provides a reason to stop and find out just like the united states or the uk would do in afghanistan and iraq . but certainly i don't think none of them are going to be punished or detained , detained punished or detained, detained extensively without inquiry to find out whether the hamas terrorists . but obviously, terrorists. but obviously, you're not just going to ask them, are you hamas terrorist? them, are you a hamas terrorist? and you have a suicide? and do you have a suicide? >> it's such a difficult job for israel here because clearly sometimes there is a very blurred line between someone who might have stood on the side of the street and in a sort of awful and in human way cheered on a hamas terrorist, dragging a hostage through the streets as we saw many, many streets in
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gaza, people on the sides of the of the street acting like that. but i suppose in nazi germany there were many civilians who attended nuremberg rallies. perhaps that's an apt comparison . those civilians who've expressed support for evil , expressed support for evil, murderous barbarians, whether it's the nazis or hamas , i it's the nazis or hamas, i suppose ultimately these people need to go through a process of de—nazification and would scenes like this help that process or hinder it? >> um , um, scenes like this will >> um, um, scenes like this will help that process because they're necessary to israel winning the war, which de—nazification cannot take de— nazification cannot take place de—nazification cannot take place unless you actually conquer nazi germany, for example. and and if military aged men are allowed to gather in large groups and approach soldiers and you can't check them for bombs or weapons, i don't know. has anyone suggested a better way of checking them for bombs? for weapons? are you
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going to send them to the airport metal detector? and again, this is not an unusual thing happened but thing that's happened here. but because it's israel, people try to problematise it and say it's sorry to interrupt you, professor, but we've we've come to the end. >> we've squeezed a little bit here. but thank you very much indeed your time. eugene indeed for your time. eugene kontorovich, director of international international law at the arctic policy forum. >> we're going to a break now, but see you in a moment. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler is sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello weather on. gb news. hello >> we've got further wet weather to come over the next 24 hours. still got some rain this evening in the north. some clearer spells for a time before it turns wetter and windier from the southwest. later on. and that's all down to this area of low pressure slides as low pressure that slides away as we head through tonight. but then next weather then this next weather system pushes from the pushes its way up from the southwest, bringing those stronger winds. but still for a time, some heavy rain and a
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weather warning in place for parts scotland parts of southwest scotland through evening as that through this evening as that pushes its eastwards . some pushes its way eastwards. some clearer through the clearer skies through the midlands, southeastern areas of england before this england for a time before this next swathe of wet weather. you can see from the brighter colours there'll be some heavier bursts in there and further bursts in there and the further risk flooding for parts of risk of flooding for parts of somerset, dorset and devon thanks to that heavy rain. so there will be some disruption first thing on saturday morning if making plans for if you're making plans for saturday, christmas related plans, do be aware of the wet weather. it trundles its way northward slowly through the day, persists , giving some day, but persists, giving some further for northern further heavy rain for northern ireland. and those winds whip up as particularly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea3articularly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts.arly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts where rough ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts where rougcould irish sea coasts where we could see 60 to 70 miles an see gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour at times, damaging gusts in places . as on the whole, it's places. as on the whole, it's quite a mild day, but it won't be particularly mild be feeling particularly mild with rain, some drier , with all that rain, some drier, clearer conditions first thing on but yet on sunday morning. but yet again, we look out to the west and this band of wet and we see this next band of wet weather its way in weather pushing its way in through the afternoon. but monday drier. there will
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monday will be drier. there will be some showers on tuesday and then things settling then signs of things settling down midweek . bye for now i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers spawned hours of weather on gb news as
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coming up, take our money, kagame the new rwanda treaty has seen a further £100 million sent to the east african country, which is still yet to receive a single channel. >> migrant is this a good use of taxpayers money setback for harry. >> the duke of sussex has lost his bid to throw out the mail on sunday owners a libel defence. prince harry has also claimed he was forced to step back from royal duties and forced to leave for the united states and the bank of mum and dad. >> yes, new research shows that half of new buyers in their 20s receive help from their parents when getting their feet on the property ladder. the average amount from relatives is being 25 grand . 25 grand. a and we haven't forgotten that. >> nigel farage is still in the jungle. he got through another round on i'm a celebrity last night. that means he's in the
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final five. >> yes. if you want to vote, nigel. and indeed, paradoxically , we vote remain. then do scan the qr code on the screen. you can scan it with any smartphone on your camera app that will take you to be able to download the imacelebrity app. you can also for search it in your app store. yes, you can vote for him five times per day for free. >> so you know you don't have to do it just one day. you can do it every day till the end of the show anyway. if he stays in, which he will, if you vote, it's only until this weekend. >> we're running out time. >> we're running out of time. but wouldn't it be funny? wouldn't if he wouldn't it be funny if he became king of the jungle? he'd became king of the jungle? he'd be that famous catchphrase. >> what was that ? >> what was that? >> what was that? >> when i came here and said i wanted to lead a campaign to leave the european union, you all laughed at me. but you're not laughing now. well you already , already won best presenter, presenter of the year at the tric awards. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and if he gets jungle mean better than any other gong, i'd say . say. >> i mean, i suppose it's. i
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don't know . it's being elected don't know. it's being elected to parliament or being crowned king of the jungle, which one's a higher accolade. i'm not. i'm not sure . not sure. >> depends who you ask. doesn't it really depends who you ask. but well get this one. but may as well get this one. >> more stories >> but plenty more big stories to after your to come, of course, after your headunes to come, of course, after your headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> tom, thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom downing street has rejected claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda scheme. that's after it emerged costs have reached £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year. rishi sunak, who's facing division within his party over the asylum plan, has vowed to finish the job. he's hoping to rush a emergency legislation through parliament with the first vote on tuesday . with the first vote on tuesday. a 16 year old boy has been
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arrested on suspicion of murdering a woman who was shot deadin murdering a woman who was shot dead in east london. the 42 year old leon gordon was killed in hackney on tuesday evening. she was one of three people found with gunshot wounds. a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy were taken to hospital . prince were taken to hospital. prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. it means the case must go to trial. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements. his lawyers say the story was an attack on his integrity and would undermine his charity work. associated newspapers limited argues it expressed honest opinion and caused no serious harm to prince harry's reputation , a blast that damaged reputation, a blast that damaged a ulez camera in south—east london has been described as grotesquely irresponsive by the london mayor's office. counter—terror police are leading an investigation into
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the incident , which leading an investigation into the incident, which happened in sidcup on wednesday night. while it's not being treated as terrorism , the explosion is terrorism, the explosion is believed to have been a deliberate act. decision to deliberate act. the decision to expand the ultra low emission zone in the capital led to zone in the capital has led to a surge in vandalism . rail surge in vandalism. rail passengers have been facing severe travel disruption after hundreds of people were trapped on trains in west london last night. video on social media showed people huddled in darkness, with many saying they were stuck in carriages for up to four hours. dan damage was caused to overhead wires after a train hit an obstruction outside london paddington, which meant the power had to be switched off. some am described the ordeal as surreal and said it felt like a war time thing. ordeal as surreal and said it felt like a war time thing . more felt like a war time thing. more travel chaos is expected due to ongoing walkouts by train drivers in their long running dispute over pay . it's the final dispute over pay. it's the final day of a number of strikes by aslef union members and cancellations are taking place across services on northern trains and transpennine express.
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aslef general secretary mick whelan and union members are calling for an 8% pay increase over two years . a judge has over two years. a judge has ruled the uk government's block of scotland's gender reform bill as lawful . mps passed the as lawful. mps passed the legislation last year, which makes it easier for people to change their legal , recognised change their legal, recognised sex. it was then disputed earlier this year when the uk used a never before used section 35 order to stop the bill from receiving royal assent and then becoming law . the four biggest becoming law. the four biggest mobile network operators are being accused of overcharging up to 28.2 million customers as vodafone ee three and o2 to 28.2 million customers as vodafone ee three and 02 all accused of penalising loyal customers , meaning they paid customers, meaning they paid more than new customers for the same services . they now face same services. they now face a £3 billion plus claim made by former citizens advice executive justin gutmann, alleging they used their market dominance to
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overcharge people on uk contracts. gutmann and the law firm charles linden are seeking damages of at least £3.2 billion. the foreign secretary has refuted claims he's interfering with us politics by urging lawmakers to vote through a package of support for ukraine. it's after the us congress failed to pass an £88 billion package of wartime funding for ukraine and israel . funding for ukraine and israel. lord cameron says blocking ukraine aid would be a christmas present to the russian president . putin and mourners are paying tribute to the pogues frontman shane macgowan by depher were singing galway bay and the bells were ringing out of christmas day . christmas, christmas hit day. christmas, christmas hit fairytale of new york was just one of many of the songs sung as his cortege made its way through the streets of dublin. the
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singer died last week at the age of 65. the irish president and celebrities are expected to attend his funeral later today . attend his funeral later today. here with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily to tom and. emily >> good afternoon, britain. now the government could be open to compromises with rebel tory mps unhappy with rishi sunak's rwanda legislation . that's rwanda legislation. that's according to the new legal migration minister. >> i wonder what compromise is that might look like. downing street says they wouldn't pre—empt any deals ahead of the debate next week. >> it comes as it's been revealed that the cost of the rwanda scheme has soared to £250 million so far. rwanda scheme has soared to £250 million so far . that's before million so far. that's before any flights have even taken off or 240. >> did i say £40 million? did i
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not say 40? no. you said 50. did i? it's quite all right. in the last hour of the week. it could be 250 by now. to be fair, in the last hour, downing street has confirmed the extra £100 million signed off by the million was signed off by the former suella former home secretary, suella braverman . hm. braverman. hm. >> well, immigration lawyer hardeep singh bhangal joins us now to discuss sunaks fresh bill further. thank you so much for making the time for us this afternoon. rishi sunak believes that this bill can override the courts , can get those planes off courts, can get those planes off the ground. what's your profession view? >> well, technically, he's not wrong. he can because the bill over gives ultimate power to the minister. so even if there's a challenge in the european courts, if the minister says home office minister says , you home office minister says, you know what, i'm going to ignore all of this , then he's well all of this, then he's well within the rights under the bill to that. however, whether to do that. however, whether where that leaves us in relations with on the international scale with our
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neighbours cooperate on you know that might be a totally different ballgame altogether . different ballgame altogether. and whether rishi sunak wants to do that is something he needs to sit down and discuss. but technically he's right. he can circumnavigate this and the bill does give him the power to do that. how many times will they do that? will it be worth doing it for the sake of sending three, people over to three, 400 odd people over to rwanda? what are we going to do about the other 49,500 that are coming across the channel every year who waits to be seen? >> well, of course he would argue that this will prevent further it further crossings because it will deterrent effect. will have that deterrent effect. it's interesting you say that this bill can, theory, get this bill can, in theory, get around those various legal challenges because suella, braverman and robert jenrick, who was the immigration minister up till two days ago, don't agree. they think that this will continue on with all these this merry go round , they call it, of merry go round, they call it, of legal challenges and it won't it won't be successful . won't be successful. >> well, ultimately it can be successful. now the key is how
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quickly can it be successful ? so quickly can it be successful? so we could be facing an election in january, may or november. these are the key dates or even january 20, 25. will we be get a flight off to rwanda before then ? dates that seems highly unlikely . if we had four years unlikely. if we had four years to do this, then perhaps rishi sunak could have done this. but now it's almost like a race against time. now it's almost like a race against time . whether they can against time. whether they can do that, that quickly or not. but ultimately suella bravermans success in, you know, she couldn't even get anything past the supreme court. so i think i think we'll take that with a pinch of salt as to what she says. >> so what are the actual roadblocks here? i suppose firstly, we've got this vote on tuesday in the house of commons. if that passes it, then it goes to the house of lords. that could be difficult and perhaps could be a difficult and perhaps laborious process. once it's laborious process. but once it's passed , both the commons and the passed, both the commons and the lords , if it does both of lords, if it does pass both of those contentious chambers, what what would be the timeline for any legal frustrations ?
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any legal frustrations? >> the timeline would be that, listen, no one can prevent an appeal being lodged to europe. so that's the first thing. an appeal will be heard and europe can pass a judgement on it. now the whole this is what i said earlier, that the uk government can decide, well, actually we want to we're going to ignore that and we thank you for your advice, but we're still going to go ahead with it. the other thing which is now coming out in the detail is the fact that there's a clause in there which says that if rwanda or refuse somebody asylum, if somebody is refused asylum , then they'll be refused asylum, then they'll be sent back to the uk . so you sent back to the uk. so you might end up out of 300 people, ten people. rwanda decides to give asylum to and 290 being sent back to the uk and the uk would have to accept them. so this is what it just seems futile about you know, we're not. the dream was wasn't it suella that we're going to send 50,000 people a year to rwanda? that's never going to happen. it was never achievable . and one was never achievable. and one flight deterrent is not going to
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deter people who are sitting on a channel. your program the other night , patrick's a channel. your program the other night, patrick's program proved that . i mean, there were proved that. i mean, there were people out there who were laughing and saying, even if you send flight rwanda, it send a flight to rwanda, it doesn't matter. can't send doesn't matter. you can't send 50,000. of course, there are 50,000. and of course, there are the capacity, of course, as mark whyte has highlighted, there are many people many other routes people can take, least getting in the take, not least getting in the back of lorries to cross over. >> an immigration >> now, you're an immigration lawyer wonder i ask lawyer and i wonder if i can ask you about something slightly different. put on different. sorry to put you on the but course the spot, but of course there were a package of measures announced legal migration announced on legal migration this week too, and i've been seeing quite a lot from immigration lawyers and people in the know talking about these changes to spousal visas. this has become very controversial people that you can't bring over your your spouse, your fiance, your your spouse, your fiance, your wife, husband from another country unless you earn £38,700. now people have been talking about how there might be ways around this or what sort of ways
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around this or what sort of ways around this or what sort of ways around this could there be for people who still want to bring a spouse ? spouse? >> well, the ways around it would be to earn over £38,700 or show excessive savings of over 120,000. and you must have held them for six months. the system is the same as it is now. it's just that the limits are going up, so the limits are going up more than they've doubled. so it's currently it's 18,600, which people believe it or not, have trouble trying to earn. but to than double it to to more than double it to 38,700, that that is really sort of a tough ask considering that junior doctors only get paid 32,000 and the average uk wage is much less than 38,700. so that's almost like punishing british citizens . it's that's almost like punishing british citizens. it's punishing british citizens. it's punishing british citizens. it's punishing british citizens . british citizens. >> it's a disproportionate measure . then i guess the measure. then i guess the argument, the argument would be from the government that there needs to be a limit. other countries do have limits. and if you're coming to this country, you're coming to this country, you need to be able to provide
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for yourself . for yourself. >> yeah, but you could provide for your for yourself on 35,000. how are junior doctors providing for themselves on 32,500? how are people possibly working at gb news getting 30,000 on a production team providing for theirs? i mean, it's a simple sort of question, really . it's sort of question, really. it's the 38,000 of 700 that is unduly harsh. and why punish british citizens ? i mean, these people citizens? i mean, these people who are coming married to british citizens, they're not coming illegally. they're not coming illegally. they're not coming on a dinghy. they're coming on a dinghy. they're coming to coming getting married to a british and they british citizen. and they want to uk home. and to make the uk their home. and it's right live with it's their right to live with their spouse. we're going to force say, well, sorry force people to say, well, sorry , you can't afford that much. or if you're earning 77,000, then you move abroad in order you have to move abroad in order to have your family life. it's just not fair. i mean, reduce reduce the other means, the dependents going, that's fine. and all the other work permit limits going up, that's fine because that's where people were coming in and it's right. and how does a british citizen feel knowing ukrainian come in knowing a ukrainian can come in and, all the help ,
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and, you know, get all the help, 200,000 of and their spouse 200,000 of them and their spouse can't and they have to earn 38,700, yet the ukrainian government is the government is also concerned about abuse of the system as well. >> we have seen cases of people bringing people over from other countries aren't really countries who aren't really their spouse necessarily, but i can see how it would seem horribly unfair if you did meet the love of your life who happened be in, i don't know, happened to be in, i don't know, let's say france for example. and you don't quite meet that income threshold. >> would believe it or not? >> would you believe it or not? thailand. but the thing is thailand. but the other thing is these applications are only 65,000 total. so they don't 65,000 in total. so they don't even make up 10% of the net migration figures or anything like this. so it's not the ones that are target compared to the ukrainians and the hong kong people hong kong who people from hong kong who actually year's actually boosted this year's figures . i actually boosted this year's figures. i mean, these it's not fair to target your own citizens. it's not fascinating. >> now we have control over migration now that it's a domestic policy decision, we're finding out all of these different elements of the system
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and perhaps looking at, one, an amorphous number and just saying this is the migration number. and look at, well, how and we don't look at, well, how many are going to go back many people are going to go back after two how people many people are going to go back afte students, how people many people are going to go back afte students, how ow people many people are going to go back aftestudents, how ow people ole are students, how many people are students, how many people are marrying i are actually marrying brits? i mean, different mean, all of these different perhaps we should break this number down compartmentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes.' down compartmentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes. butvn compartmentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes. but rather compartmentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes. but rather than partmentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes. but rather than viewrentalise perhaps we should break this nu yes. but rather than view it1talise it. yes. but rather than view it as one big thing, the context, though, huge amounts of though, is huge amounts of pressure on infrastructure. pressure on our infrastructure. >> must remember that's >> and we must remember that's why government to why the government wants to bfing why the government wants to bring thank bring these numbers down. thank you indeed. harjit bring these numbers down. thank you bhangal,indeed.harjit bring these numbers down. thank you bhangal,immigrationt singh bhangal, immigration lawyer . i just wanted to put singh bhangal, immigration lawyer. i just wanted to put him on on one because on the spot on that one because it on the spot on that one because h been on the spot on that one because it been every where on it has been every where on social media. this government doesn't who doesn't want you to marry who you love. >> i've got a solution to that. not enough infrastructure. we could more could build some more infrastructure just thought infrastructure just a thought cost money. well, french police officers have told gb news they're overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant crisis in northern france and are struggling to meaningful struggling to make a meaningful impact those to cross impact on those trying to cross to the small boats and to the uk by small boats and indeed inside lorries. although uk politicians are fixated on the very visible and high profile small boats crisis,
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thousands of migrants are still risking their lives to sneak onto the back of trucks. >> well, our homeland security editor mark white witnessed the chaos around the port of calais as young diced with death in as young men diced with death in their attempts to jump aboard uk bound lorries . bound lorries. >> all around the port of calais, even in broad daylight, these migrants are everywhere , these migrants are everywhere, looking for transport across the channel. they're on opportunists, often young african men who have no money to buy a place on a small boat, opting instead to clamber aboard trucks pass through the security fence. this young man is trying to stay out of sight next to a roundabout, waiting for the moment. lorries slow down here in the hope of jumping aboard while uk politicians are fixated with the small boats crisis . with the small boats crisis. politicians here say the lorry crisis is just as bad . crisis is just as bad.
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>> there are clearly those who can afford a boat trip, but many, many others who have no money, who see the lorries that pass through the port in their thousands as the only realistic way of getting to the uk via . way of getting to the uk via. >> and as bad as things are dufing >> and as bad as things are during daylight, it's at night when it truly gets crazy. here we're on our way to a lorry park on the outskirts of calais where we're told that after dark, migrants appear looking for a suitable trailer to stow away inside and for the journey to the uk , you don't have to look the uk, you don't have to look far to spot the migrants. they're everywhere here we film as one clambers into the back of this lorry disappearing out of sight every time a new truck parks up here. within seconds , parks up here. within seconds, they're swarming around , they're swarming around, checking the doors, probing for weak spots to get inside . hide weak spots to get inside. hide
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those we spoke to are from sudan . they're here night after night. i have two months here. >> two months? yeah >> two months? yeah >> we're trying every night. yes and do they discover you on the lorries? do they find you? >> yeah , i go to port security. >> yeah, i go to port security. take me. i go to port here like this every day. yeah. wow >> and you're just going to keep trying until you get to the uk ? trying until you get to the uk? yeah. suddenly the migrants are on the run. scatter thing as an unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park. but unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . but talking to the lorry park. but talking to these officers, they tell us they're completely overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant problem here. and despite the extra money from the uk, they say they don't have the resources to make a meaningful impact on both the small boats and lorry crisis . quite often and lorry crisis. quite often when the migrants try to get in the back of these lorries, they end up damaging them, cutting the guide cables or sometimes
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even cutting their way through the roof. so what you find is that some of the lorry drivers do this. they just leave their back door open so that people can see down inside the can see right down inside the lorry. they see it's empty. there's no point in getting into that lorry because they're going to be found out. migrants after migrant tells the same story like majid here. it's london. they're determined to reach and you will keep trying to get to london. >> london? yes i go to london within minutes. >> majid and his friends are around the latest lorry to arrive . but the driver sees them arrive. but the driver sees them and tries, telling them there's no point in climbing aboard. and tries, telling them there's no point in climbing aboard . as no point in climbing aboard. as he's heading to belgium , it's he's heading to belgium, it's clear they don't believe him. and as he pulls out of the lorry park , unbelievably just visible park, unbelievably just visible on the roof. here is 15 year old majid . when we catch up with the majid. when we catch up with the lorry on the motorway , the lorry on the motorway, the driver has discovered majid and
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another migrant pulling over as they jump . off they're dicing they jump. off they're dicing with death . migrants have been with death. migrants have been injured and killed on these roads, but that doesn't put them off. and they're more determined than ever to reach the uk . mark than ever to reach the uk. mark white gb news calais . white gb news calais. >> absolutely shocking pictures there from mark. >> lots of people asking why these particular migrants that mark white spoke to want to come to uk specifically rather than in the world france? is it just that there's a greater pull factor? clearly but coming up, it's a lot to do with language as well. yeah, there's that family as well. coming up, we'll be finding out just why so many brits are relying on the bank of mum and dad to get them on the property
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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on news . the trade union congress held a special press conference earlier today and indeed , a earlier today and indeed, a special, extraordinary congress . special, extraordinary congress. >> that's after their general secretary called prime minister sunak his new law spiteful. and paul nowak, the general secretary of the trade union congress, said the new anti—strike laws have created a galvanising moment for the uk's trade union movement. >> yes, they want to make the most of it, it seems. gb news political correspondent olivia utley was at the press conference. she joins us now.
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olivia what have we learned from this congress meeting ? this congress meeting? >> well, a galvanising moment is definitely the word for it. there were very strong words from the tuc, representative kate bell. essentially, the tuc is pushing back very hard against the minimum service legislation that came in on thursday . now, under that thursday. now, under that legislation , employers can legislation, employers can choose to serve a work notice to strikers when they're off work demanding that they come in in order to provide minimum cover. now, that might mean a certain number of trains running on a train strike day or chemotherapy being provided in a hospital on the day of a doctor's strike. if that worker fails to comply with that worker fails to comply with that worker fails to comply with that work notice and doesn't come into work, continues to strike, then the employer can sack them. now the tuc would like to get that legislation repealed , but in the meantime, repealed, but in the meantime, what they're planning on doing is essentially taking the fight to employers . and these were the to employers. and these were the words that kate bell used. she said unions won't rest until
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these laws are repealed. decent employers touch employers won't want to touch these laws . but word of these laws. but a word of warning to who do . we will warning to any who do. we will kick nationwide campaign warning to any who do. we will ki(name nationwide campaign warning to any who do. we will ki(name natshamez campaign warning to any who do. we will ki(name natshame allmpaign warning to any who do. we will ki(name natshame all employers to name and shame all employers who deploy work notices. they will be rightly branded anti—union and anti—worker. so very stark words indeed. her argument is that unions already provide a decent level of cover enough to keep the public safe dufing enough to keep the public safe during strikes. but when i asked her if that was really true. here's what she had to say. >> sam outlined there are already life and limb cover arrangements in place, and frankly, i think it's pretty insulting to our public sector workers who every day are out there protecting public safety in some of the hardest conditions we've seen for many, many years. to suggest that they do not have the interests of patients of other people, you know , front of mind when they know, front of mind when they are taking action. and as so many of those public servants who i've spoken to on picket lines, you know, this year have said they are taking strike action to protect public safety
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because investment, you know , because investment, you know, the lack of staff retention is the lack of staff retention is the major issue, the lack of staffing across our public services, paying conditions is at the heart of that. and that's what they're taking action to protect. look unions and workers always do, you know, we'll always do, you know, we'll always have those agreements in place to protect life and limb coven place to protect life and limb cover. that's what they're clear about. and i don't think this legislation going the legislation is going to make the situation better . situation better. >> she wasn't actually >> so she wasn't actually prepared to say that patient safety was compromised during the last strikes , which was what the last strikes, which was what the last strikes, which was what the nhs chief said. but she is going to double down. the tuc is going to double down. the tuc is going to double down. the tuc is going to double down and they're going to double down and they're going as hard as they going to push as hard as they can to get this repealed. can to get this law repealed. and they're going to try and if not, they're going to try and any employer, threaten and stop any employer, threaten any wants any employer who actually wants to of it. is to take advantage of it. this is a real headache the a real headache for the government time when the government at the time when the government at the time when the government need headache. >> absolutely. is . thank you >> absolutely. it is. thank you very indeed. utley , very much indeed. olivia utley, who the tuc special who is at the tuc special congress this morning . they're congress this morning. they're certainly rallying. the troops aren't they? but you can't deny that patient safety is put at
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risk when there are strikes among health service. i workers. obviously there will be. >> i find the arrogance extra ordinary. like i think it's worthwhile taking a little step back and thinking what are they actually trying to say here? that there shouldn't be minimum safety levels guaranteed in law? the law shouldn't guarantee that people get their cancer treatment, that people get their emergency care. why would they oppose that? why would they say, we're going to disobey an employer that says you need to come in here, you need to treat this patient? and they would say, no, i'm going to treat say, no, i'm not going to treat this i'm going let this patient. i'm going to let this patient. i'm going to let this patient. i'm going to let this patient die. >> heard argument is >> as we heard their argument is that government that if the government essentially what they essentially gave them what they wanted, wouldn't wanted, then there wouldn't be this and this industrial action and therefore more lives would be saved. and not at risk. saved. and not put at risk. i mean, these are full levels of employment . employment. >> these are minimum safety levels . this >> these are minimum safety levels. this is about providing minimum safety, minimum safety. >> kate bell i believe from the tuc, she argued that . what did
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tuc, she argued that. what did she argue? she argued that there would still be life and limb service. right. >> which so far most strikes they have negotiated this sort of minimum safety level. but in the most recent nurses nurses strike, there was real, real worry that that wouldn't be negotiated , that they wouldn't negotiated, that they wouldn't include that. why do we have to sort of teeter on the edge of whether or not we have minimum safety every single time? why can't we guarantee that in law? i extraordinary i find it extraordinary that they they're taking the they think they're taking the moral ground. moral high ground. >> is normal in in a lot >> and it is normal in in a lot of european countries . now, of european countries. now, we're get to your we're going to get to your views. first, it's the views. but first, it's the latest headlines tatiana . latest headlines with tatiana. >> emily, thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom. downing street has rejected claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda scheme. that's after it emerged costs have reached £240 million before any flights have taken off.
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ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year . the prime minister, coming year. the prime minister, rishi sunak, who is facing division within his party over the asylum plan, has vowed to finish the job. he's hoping to rush emergency legislation through parliament with the first vote on tuesday . a 16 year first vote on tuesday. a 16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murdering leon gordon in east london. the 42 year old was shot dead in hackney on tuesday evening . a 20 hackney on tuesday evening. a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy also suffered gunshot wounds . prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. it means the case must go to trial. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements . and security arrangements. and mourners are paying tribute to the pogues frontman shane macgowan . on my big choir was
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£1,612.35 per the £1,612.35 per ounce. and the ftse 100 at 7525 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> well, lots of you have been getting in touch on what we've been talking about, specific hinckley rwanda and whether it will ever get off the ground . will ever get off the ground. and in the literal sense , janet and in the literal sense, janet says. so we're sending a legal immigrants to rwanda. we shouldn't have let them in into the country in the first place. we then pass the government's we then pass on the government's self—made migrant problem to rwanda for them to deal with costing us tens of millions. and in return, they want the government take their government to take their migrants white migrants should the men in white coats brought in? it sounds coats be brought in? it sounds like you're bemused , to like you're you're bemused, to say the least, about this policy. >> well , keith policy. >> well, keith has also policy. >> well , keith has also written >> well, keith has also written in on rwanda. he says, what makes sunak think that his makes rishi sunak think that his rwanda for value money? rwanda deal is for value money? we out now a further 100 we find out now a further 100 million paid to rwanda back in april. without a single april. this was without a single migrant in rwanda . migrant setting foot in rwanda. you don't have to be a genius to work is worse than the
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work out. this is worse than the brexit deal boris sold to us. that's what keith says. although of course, what rishi sunak might is if the might say in reply is if the deterrent effect does work, if people think they're going to be sent to rwanda, as we saw with the returns agreement with albania, does stop a albania, if that does stop a significant proportion of boats and a significant and free up a significant proportion of hotels that might save money. after all, hundreds of millions, we're talking billions . and john, looking at billions. and john, looking at accommodation. john says on the enormous amount of money that's being spent on this policy. >> he says , do you agree that >> he says, do you agree that whatever they spend on rwanda is still a drop in the ocean compared to what we're paying for star hotels that is a for four star hotels that is a decent point, but i'd probably most of us would prefer that it wasn't so expensive . regardless, wasn't so expensive. regardless, both of these policies weren't. but there you go. it is true that 7 million a day on on hotels last time i checked. well, let's move on now. >> but of course, keep your views coming in. vaiews@gbnews.com but if you're unfortunate enough to be watching this. oh, sorry , i
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watching this. oh, sorry, i completely misread that. let's start again. do you want to take this one? >> if you're fortune unit enough to be watching this from house to be watching this from a house that own , you might have that you own, you might have saved years , saved up over the years, received a little bit of inheritance or maybe you even had some help from relatives. well if you're in your 20s, then the chance has it that you definitely had a helping hand as new official data from the institute for fiscal studies shows a whopping 45% of young brits received cash or loans towards their first homes from family . this does not surprise family. this does not surprise me at all. but joining us now is property expert russell quirk . property expert russell quirk. take russell, thank you for joining us. are you expecting are you expecting to have to help out your children when it comes to getting on the property ladder ? ladder? >> yes, probably. i mean , that's >> yes, probably. i mean, that's what families do, isn't it? and i think the that i think despite the fact that these numbers today say that, you ever increasing you know, an ever increasing proportion of first time buyers are helped by parents and indeed grandparents, i think that's always the case. emily always been the case. emily really? and the reality is, you
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know, before we start lamenting the plight of first time buyers too much and forgive for too much and forgive me for being controversial being slightly controversial with data here, but with facts and data here, but the level of first time buyers right now in britain is a proportion of all buyers is the highest ever. so something like 53% of all purchased with a mortgage are made now by first time buyers. so we kind of get the impression from certain parts of the media gb news excluded , of course, that first excluded, of course, that first time buyers are beleaguered , time buyers are beleaguered, that they're hapless, that there's absolutely no way that they can buy a property for themselves. but the truth is, themselves. but the truth is, the data shows rather differently. as i say, more than half of purchases with a mortgage are . mortgage are. >> russell russell, on that point , i take >> russell russell, on that point, i take your point, but it is taking longer and longer, isn't it? the average age at which someone purchases their first home is much higher than it was, say, 20 years ago . it was, say, 20 years ago. >> it's about 34 years old. yes. so but that number actually
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hasn't moved for a number of years. so but it is it is well into adulthood for sure. but but look, i don't want this to be a kind of a general national competition. emily but when i bought my first property when i was 18, i think it was back in about 1987, 1988 that i know, i know, but i did. about 1987, 1988 that i know, i know, but i did . and interest know, but i did. and interest rates were 10. they're now 5. and i had a tiny little bit of help from my father at the time. but the difference is now when i bought a property, i had to pay the full rate of stamp duty. first time buyers. now are let off stamp duty on purchase up to a purchase price of 420. russell this is a drop in the ocean. now, for the first time buyers, we might think so. >> stamp duty is a drop in the ocean compared to the costs and more more importantly, perhaps more more importantly, perhaps more pertinently , the times. the more pertinently, the times. the percentage of your income that housing costs today . back in the housing costs today. back in the 19805, it housing costs today. back in the 1980s, it was around four times an average person's income to
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buy a house. now it's around ten times as an average person's income. people have to save on average now for decades to afford that deposit . things have afford that deposit. things have got worse. yeah and but the data i >> -- >> tom ism >> tom would rather disagree with you, wouldn't it? i just gave you the back in 2006, but back in 2006, there were about 190,000. first time buyers. now there are 380,000. first time buyers. they're just the facts right ? right? >> and russell, but we're talking in a context of people having huge intergenerational changes in terms of part passing money down from the bank of mum and dad that has expanded, people taking on huge debt. one of the reasons why the why the interest rate rises that have been quite so painful now are even though they're relatively small in terms of small percentages they're on such a vast quantity of borrowed money. we are so indebted as a generation that simply isn't true. >> so interest rates now are half what they were 20 years
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ago. yes. on much bigger, bigger pools of borrowed money. there's look, there's a truth and there's a reality here. the truth is there are twice as many first time buyers now buying each year than 15, 16, 17 years ago. interest rates are not what they were 20 years ago. yes people get help with their deposits. russell can we do some maths in? >> is paying 10% interest. on 90,000 borrowed pounds? is more or less painful than paying 5% interest on 500,000 borrowed pounds. >> but actually now, tom, that's going in reverse. so wage growth now is about 8% and house prices are pretty flat. so house prices are pretty flat. so house prices are down by between one and 2% year on year. so actually it's going in an even better and more favourable direction for first time buyers. look, i hear what you say. what i'm saying is historically, if you take a longer term view, first time buyers not it bad buyers are not having it as bad ed as you might be ed as perhaps you might be suggesting they are. and the numbers simply agree with me.
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the agree. yeah i think the stats agree. yeah i think you're both very good points, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*le both very good points, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*i think very good points, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*i think they good points, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*i think the pointi points, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*i think the point about s, the stats agree. yeah i think you�*i think the point about how but i think the point about how far the young people are stretching themselves with that debt, taking on 35 year long mortgage is not knowing where that interest rate is going to go . go. >> it is a huge amount of debt compared to perhaps what our parents or grandparents took on. but as you say, interest rates were a lot higher for previous generations on smaller pools of money, on smaller pools of money. but there you go. thank you for your time. >> sorry, just something else, guys. >> yeah, there go. >> yeah, there go. >> there's thing. why >> there's one other thing. why do we why do we think we have to buy? wrong with buy? there's nothing wrong with renting. 3 or 4 million buy? there's nothing wrong with renting.in 3 or 4 million buy? there's nothing wrong with renting.in britain. or 4 million buy? there's nothing wrong with renting.in britain. there'sllion renters in britain. there's nothing wrong with renting. we shouldn't those shouldn't stigmatise those renting. there's renting. in fact, there's a lot that to actually that could be done to actually ensure that renting is better that could be done to actually ensrenters, renting is better that could be done to actually ensrenters, whereg is better that could be done to actually ensrenters, where people ter that could be done to actually ensrenters, where people can for renters, where people can put roots down. well, russell, we shouldn't be quite so obsessed with buying homes. >> the of all of >> i mean, the crux of all of this is building more property so can have choice so people can have more choice and going if they and they're not going to if they are out of their rental are booted out of their rental property, get new one property, they can get a new one more you very much
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property, they can get a new one more russell you very much property, they can get a new one more russell quirk.j very much property, they can get a new one more russell quirk. property jch indeed. russell quirk. property expert. thanks for the back and forth expert. thanks for the back and fortyeah, no, no interesting data >> yeah, no, no interesting data . i think they were . i don't think that they were in you can have more in conflict. you can have more people buying homes, but spending income in spending more of their income in doing i doing so. yeah. and also, i don't know , i think there's don't know, i think there's something quite british about wanting your home. wanting to own your own home. >> find out if we end >> and we'll find out if we end up being far stretched as up being far too stretched as a younger we shall younger generation. we shall see. coming up, could nigel farage an i'm farage actually win an i'm a celebrity? here. celebrity? get me out of here. stranger happened. celebrity? get me out of here. strangbe happened. celebrity? get me out of here. strangbe discussing happened. celebrity? get me out of here. strangbe discussing withypened. celebrity? get me out of here. strangbe discussing with oured. we'll be discussing with our superstar this short superstar panel after this short
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six till 930 . six till 930. now we're talking about what is it acceptable in terms of conflict? >> joining us to discuss some of the biggest stories is the former labour mp ivo kaplan and the leader of ukip, neil hamilton . the leader of ukip, neil hamilton. now we the leader of ukip, neil hamilton . now we were looking at hamilton. now we were looking at a picture earlier today. for some people it's quite a distressing picture for others it's a picture of retribution of almost just revenge. i suppose. ivo kaplan you were a former defence minister. what's your reaction to this picture of israeli soldiers? and they would say suspected militants of hamas? >> yeah , we've got to start back >> yeah, we've got to start back on october 7, though. you know, this was a terrible attack by hamas on the people of israel . hamas on the people of israel. and there are still 140 or so who are are are being, you know ,
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who are are are being, you know, kept by by hamas. they're not being released . being released. >> and this is this is ongoing going through all the these times that picture i see as a military operation where they've arrested a group of people. >> and in order to get everything off them, including guns , etcetera, etcetera, they guns, etcetera, etcetera, they have had to strip them down. it's a it's not really a picture that should be detailed like this. but at the same point, i think you have to understand that when israel has been attacked like this and everyone has said that israel is entitled to defend itself and that's what they're doing here. if you want civilians not to be affected, then israel has to get the right out number of people who have who are in hamas and get them out of the underground and into either arrest or whatever else happensin either arrest or whatever else happens in israel . but these
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happens in israel. but these people have been , it looks to me people have been, it looks to me like arrested and they're deaung like arrested and they're dealing with that. but i don't think we can really say that's not not the right thing to do from the united kingdom point of view. >> now, i've already raised a point there about the sharing of this footage , these pictures. this footage, these pictures. why do you think israel, the idf , shared these, chose to share them ? them? >> well, i've no idea really, because i can't think that this is going to benefit israel in the propaganda war for which they've not been doing very well in, unlike in the military war. and i think israel endangers the support of the western coalition by publishing pictures of that kind. all right. they're being transparent. and this is war. and i agree with ivor. you know, these are all young men of fighting age. you've no idea whether they've got suicide vests on or anything underneath clothes. so the only way to be absolutely sure is to do what has obviously been done in that
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photograph that is stripped them down so you can actually see whether they've got concealed weapons or whatever . but of weapons or whatever. but of course , the laws of war do course, the laws of war do preclude using people who've been taken prisoner as propaganda exercises. i can't believe that israel has published that as a propaganda exercise. i can't really see what gain there could possibly be from it. i wonder if it's because there's such a strength of israel , people of feeling in israel, people whose babies have been snatched from them, women who have been raped as weapon of war, people raped as a weapon of war, people who've been burnt in their homes , potentially israel getting that picture and showing you know, these are the these are potentially the monsters who did that. >> i suppose it's almost cathartic for a nation to see we are going after these people. yes. >> but now there is so much speculation, though. >> now just on that point, now there is so much speculation about those people are, about who those people are, whether the some of them are innocent civilians . some people innocent civilians. some people are even journalist are saying even a journalist might have been among them. so
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it israel to a lot it does open up israel to a lot of criticism. >> it does . but i think it's >> it does. but i think it's very difficult to think that these are anything except hamas . these are anything except hamas. i think that's the point here. and i think the idf has a long enough experience to know when to do these these type of things , whether we like it or not, is kind of secondary. i mean, hamas are hiding amongst the civilian population. that's the point of gaza and using the civilian population weapon, albeit a population as a weapon, albeit a shield rather than a sword. but that's what has caused a lot of the real destruction in gaza. the need to do so much bombing and so on is the only way that israel could actually get to the tunnel networks, etcetera , tunnel networks, etcetera, because hamas are actually they've taken the civilian population of gaza hostage as well as as the hostages that they've stolen from israel. and this is long standing of what they do. this is nothing new. that's the point. i think. i think the new things from a uk perspective in particular is people being, you know, held on
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to by by hamas and the whole area of that where where people aren't sort of able to get away and sorry. >> no, no, just moving on slightly, although it is related in a way to the labour leader, keir starmer , his position on a keir starmer, his position on a ceasefire has been deemed controversial by people within his party and of course many members of the public. he was actually on a train yesterday day and was confronted . day and was confronted. >> yeah, pretty good. how many more children in palestine have to die before you call for a ceasefire ? over 7000 children ceasefire? over 7000 children have died . over 7000 children have died. over 7000 children have died. over 7000 children have been slaughtered by israel . have been slaughtered by israel. this is unacceptable . this is unacceptable. >> well, there was a gentleman on a train in scotland coming up to keir starmer. >> either you were a front bench politician. i suppose politicians want to be sort of open and accessible , and there open and accessible, and there is always a line to draw . so do
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is always a line to draw. so do you think this particular the confrontation crossed a line? >> yes, i do. i do think it crossed the line. but i think here we've also got to think of the way that people are genuinely behaving . this whole genuinely behaving. this whole concept that britain should be saying there must be a ceasefire. now is completely and utterly ridiculous , because why utterly ridiculous, because why should israel do that ? this is should israel do that? this is not a decision for the united kingdom any more so than it's a decision for the united states. we are just good friends of israel. you can't have the putting down of weapons as unless both sides are going to do it. and what we absolutely know from october the 7th is there's no way that hamas are going to do that. the question sorry, the question is about kia. yeah. and that issue, i just think this is a follow up that we've seen in london every saturday. it's a smallish group of people in in retrospect and i think they're entitled to their opinion in a freedom that we
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have in the uk. but lots of people don't have in parts of the palestinian authority areas . the palestinian authority areas. >> but neil, isn't it an important element of our political society that as long as they're not sort of being overly aggressive , i mean, the overly aggressive, i mean, the man wasn't shouting in starmer's face or anything, should he be able to have the right to walk up to a politician and say, i disagree with your stance? >> i think should >> i think he should actually. yes if your leader of the opposition and your travelling yes if your leader of the oppctrain, and your travelling yes if your leader of the oppctrain, you your travelling yes if your leader of the oppctrain, you must travelling yes if your leader of the oppctrain, you must expecting yes if your leader of the oppctrain, you must expect to in a train, you must expect to be recognised. if you're not, you've got bigger problems than that that's ed miliband and that that that's ed miliband and therefore you must expect people who have strong views on things to come up and talk to you. i don't think that you should force yourself on a politician in those circumstances. if certainly not hectoring in the way that we saw there, and rather sort of incoherent view that was being put across. but i think ivor is absolutely right that this issue about gaza and israel is obviously raising tensions of an extreme kind and
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amongst certain types of people. i'm strongly behind keir starmer. i think he's been very courageous in taking the view that he has is on a ceasefire in a party where this is an issue which causes great fractiousness . and so i think he's to be commended for that. but but it is inevitable that members of the public who take a different view very strongly are going in those circumstances to try and press their opinions. >> there's something >> i think there's something about being in a confined space with in your face with a camera put in your face like have dealt with it could have dealt with it differently. i don't know if we have clip of keir starmer have the clip of keir starmer outside if outside when it appears as if a pro—palestine protest mob are surrounding him. this perhaps was a little bit more intimidating and could perhaps be deemed harassment . but got it right. >> but it got . in as both neil >> but it got. in as both neil and i know from different eras.
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>> maybe . but we both know that >> maybe. but we both know that security in of people who are mps is a really critical area andifs mps is a really critical area and it's becoming more and more critical than in either of our times, to be honest . well, i was times, to be honest. well, i was a government whip for northern ireland, if you wouldn't . i was ireland, if you wouldn't. i was on an ira assassination on the our left. >> we'll talk about this more in the next hour. but gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. and we'll be back after this. looks like things are heating boxed spoilers, heating up, boxed spoilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello. we've got further wet to weather come over the next 24 hours. still got some rain this evening in the north. some clearer spells for a time before it turns wetter and windier from the later on. and the southwest. later on. and that's down to this area of that's all down to this area of low pressure that slides low pressure here that slides away head through away as we head through tonight. but next weather but then this next weather system pushes its way from system pushes its way up from the southwest, bringing those stronger winds. but still for a time, heavy rain and
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time, some heavy rain and a weather warning in place for parts southwest scotland parts of southwest scotland through evening as that through this evening as that pushes eastwards . some pushes its way eastwards. some clearer the clearer skies through the midlands, southeastern areas of england before this england for a time before this next swathe of wet weather. you can see from the brighter colours there'll be some heavier bursts and the further bursts in there and the further risk of flooding for parts of somerset, dorset and devon. thanks to that heavy rain. so there will be some disruption on first thing on saturday morning if you're making plans for saturday, christmas related plans, do be aware of the wet weather. it trundles its way northward slowly through the day, but persists, giving some further heavy rain for northern ireland. those winds up ireland. and those winds whip up as particularly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea3articularly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts.arly through ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts where rough ireland. and those winds whip up as sea coasts where rougcould irish sea coasts where we could see of 60 to 70 miles an see gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour at times damaging gusts in places on the whole, it's quite a mild day , but it won't be a mild day, but it won't be feeling particularly mild with all that rain, some drier, clearer thing clearer conditions first thing on morning. yet on sunday morning. but yet again, out to the west again, we look out to the west and this band of wet and we see this next band of wet weather its way in weather pushing its way in through afternoon. but through the afternoon. but monday drier. there will
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monday will be drier. there will be some showers on tuesday and then of things settling then signs of things settling down midweek. bye for now i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers spa answers of weather on .
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our money kogami the new rwanda treaty has seen a further £100 million sent to the east african nafion million sent to the east african nation , which is still yet to nation, which is still yet to receive a single channel. >> migrant is this a good use of taxpayer money? set back for harry, the duke of sussex has lost his bid to throw out the mail on sunday's libel defence from court. >> prince harry has also claimed he was forced to step back from royal duties and forced to leave the united states and the bank of mum and dad. >> new research shows that half of new buyers in their 20s receive help from their parents when getting their feet on the property ladder. the average amount from relatives . being amount from relatives. being £25,000 . £25,000. and this wouldn't be gb news without noting that we've had a missing individual on our channel for the last couple of
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weeks. >> yes, our very own nigel farage. oh, of course. happens to be in a jungle in australia right now. >> he's been there a while. >> he's been there a while. >> he's been there a while. >> he has. he's been there for longer than the majority of celebrities who went out there. >> so he's in the >> yeah. so he's now in the final five, which is quite extraordinary was extraordinary because there was quite controversy when quite a lot of controversy when he some pundits saying , he went in. some pundits saying, oh, we shouldn't be allowed to go there for one reason or go in there for one reason or another. turns out the another. well, it turns out the pubuc another. well, it turns out the public seem to him public seem to like him in there. >> @ he's at least there. >> he's at least got @ he's at least got to >> well, he's at least got to the position, but of the fifth position, but of course, matt hancock got third. he got third place last year. could nigel do better than , than could nigel do better than, than mr hancock? well, there's one way to influence the vote. you can scan the qr code on the screen now with your mobile phone and that'll take you to an app ' phone and that'll take you to an app , an app phone and that'll take you to an app, an app where you can vote for him. five times per day for free. >> one of you wrote in to us earlier saying that you can't download the app because you don't have a smartphone and you don't have a smartphone and you don't want the don't want to pay the extortionate phone fees. extortionate phone call fees. i think. i might be wrong, but
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think. and i might be wrong, but i think you can actually still vote online if you go to their website. think you can it website. i think you can do it that way. don't have a that way. if you don't have a smartphone but didn't know that. yeah, without avoiding, you know, phone know, having to phone up and getting is. getting charged whatever it is. >> yeah . it's >> yeah, yeah. it's extraordinary. the tolls they put phone lines. but put on those phone lines. but but to good have the option but it's to good have the option anyway. be getting anyway. we will be getting through more stories through many, many more stories and to know your thoughts and i want to know your thoughts on points today. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> but it's your news with tatiana sanchez to start . tatiana sanchez to start. >> emily, thank you. 2:02. this is the latest from the newsroom. downing street has rejected claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda scheme. that's after it emerged costs have reached £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year . million will be spent in the coming year. rishi sunak, who's facing division within his party over the asylum plan , has vowed over the asylum plan, has vowed to finish the job. he's hoping
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to finish the job. he's hoping to rush emergency legislation through parliament with the first vote on tuesday . a 16 year first vote on tuesday. a 16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murdering a woman who was shot dead in east london. 42 year old leon gordon was killed in hackney on tuesday evening. she was one of three people found with gunshot wounds. a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy were taken to hospital . prince harry has lost hospital. prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. it means the case must now go to trial. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements . his security arrangements. his lawyers say the story was an attack on his integrity and would undermine his charity work . associated newspapers limited argues it expressed honest opinion and caused no serious harm to prince harry's reputation . a blast that damaged
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reputation. a blast that damaged a ulez camera in south—east london has been described as grotesquely irresponsible by the london mayor's office. counter—terror police are leading an investigation into the incident, which happened in sidcup on wednesday night. while it's not being treated as terrorism, the explosion is believed to have been a deliberate act. the decision to expand the ultra low emission zone in the capital has led to a surge in vandalism . a full surge in vandalism. a full investigation should be carried out after thousands of passengers were stranded on trains for several hours, according to a transport watchdog. video on social media showed people stuck on a train in west london, huddled in darkness , with many saying they darkness, with many saying they were stuck in carriages for up to four hours last night, damage was caused to overhead wires after a train hit an obstruction outside london paddington, which meant the power had had to be switched off. the watchdog expressed concern over what it's calling the lack of communication and slow response time following the damage caused
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to the cables . meanwhile, trains to the cables. meanwhile, trains in northern england have been cancelled as drivers take industrial action. it's the final day of strikes by aslef union members, which have affected services across the country. northern and northern trains and transpennine express passengers are being impacted aslef general secretary mick whelan and union members are calling for an 8% pay rise over two years. agenda reform ruling has been described as a dark day for devolution by scotland's first minister. scots is highest civil court found. the government acted lawfully by blocking the controversial bill. the legislation , which makes it the legislation, which makes it easier for people to change their legally recognised sex, received cross—party support in holyrood humza. yousaf says sovereignty should lie with the people of scotland and not a westminster government and the judgement confirms the devolution is fundamentally flawed . the four biggest mobile flawed. the four biggest mobile network operators are being
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accused of overcharging up to 28.2 million customers. vodafone ee three and o2 28.2 million customers. vodafone ee three and 02 are accused of penalising loyal customers , penalising loyal customers, meaning they paid more than new customers for the same services. they now face a £3 billion plus claim made by former citizens advice executive justin gutmann , advice executive justin gutmann, alleging they used their market dominance to overcharge people on uk contracts . gutmann dominance to overcharge people on uk contracts. gutmann and dominance to overcharge people on uk contracts . gutmann and the on uk contracts. gutmann and the law firm charles lindon are seeking damages of at least £3.2 billion . the foreign secretary billion. the foreign secretary has refuted claims he's interfering with us politics by urging lawmakers to vote through a package of support for ukraine in its after the us congress failed to pass an £88 billion package of wartime funding for ukraine and israel. lord cameron says blocking ukraine aid would be a christmas present to the russian president . and mourners russian president. and mourners are paying tribute to the pogues frontman shane macgowan by be
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choir was singing galway bay and the bells were ringing out for christmas day . christmas hits christmas day. christmas hits fairytale of new york. just one of the many songs sung as his cortege made its way through the streets of dublin. the singer died last week at the age of 65. the irish president and celebrities are expected to attend the funeral . this is gb attend the funeral. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily and. emily >> good afternoon , britain. now >> good afternoon, britain. now french police officers have told gb news they're overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant crisis in northern france and they're struggling to make a meaningful impact on those trying to cross the uk by small boats. and
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indeed, inside lorries. >> although uk politicians are seemingly fixated on the very visible and high profile small boats crisis, thousands of migrants are still risking their lives to sneak on to the back of trucks . trucks. >> well, our homeland security editor mark white witnessed the chaos around the port of calais and young men diced with death in their attempts to jump aboard uk bound lorries . uk bound lorries. >> all around the port of calais, even in broad daylight, these migrants are everywhere looking for transport across the channel. they're opportunists . channel. they're opportunists. often young african men who have no money to buy a place on a small boat, opting instead to clamber aboard trucks through the security fence. this young man is trying to stay out of sight next to a roundabout, waiting for the moment. lorries slow down here in the hope of jumping aboard . while uk jumping aboard. while uk politicians are fixated with the
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small boats crisis, politicians here say the lorry crisis is just as bad . just as bad. >> there are clearly those who can afford a boat trip, but many , many others who have no money who see the lorries that pass through the port in their thousands as the only realistic way of getting to the uk . way of getting to the uk. >> and as bad as things are dufing >> and as bad as things are during daylight, it's at night when it truly gets crazy here. we're on our way to a lorry park on the outskirts of calais , on the outskirts of calais, where we're told that after dark, migrants appear looking for a suitable trailer to stow away inside for the journey to the uk . you don't have to look the uk. you don't have to look far to spot the migrants. they're everywhere here. we film as one clambers into the back of this lorry disappearing out of sight . every this lorry disappearing out of sight. every time a new this lorry disappearing out of sight . every time a new truck sight. every time a new truck parks up here, within seconds ,
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parks up here, within seconds, they're swarming around , they're swarming around, checking the doors, probing for weak spots to get inside . hide weak spots to get inside. hide those we spoke to are from sudan . they're here night after night. >> i have two months here. two months? yeah >> trying every night? >> trying every night? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> and do they discover you on the lorries? do they find you? yeah >>igo yeah >> i go to port security. take me. i go to port here like this every day. yeah. wow >> and you're just going to keep trying until you get to the uk ? trying until you get to the uk? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> suddenly the migrants are on the run. scatter heading as an unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park. but unmarked police vehicle enters the lorry park . but talking to the lorry park. but talking to these officers, they tell us they're completely overwhelmed by the scale of the migrant problem here. and despite the extra money from the uk, they say they don't have the resources to make a meaningful impact on both the small boats and lorry crisis . quite often
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and lorry crisis. quite often when the migrants try to get in the back of these lorries , they the back of these lorries, they end up damaging them, cutting the guide cables or sometimes even cutting their way through the roof. so what you find is that some of the lorry drivers do they just leave their do this. they just leave their back so that people back door open so that people can see right down inside , can see right down inside, inside the lorry. they see it's empty. there's no point in getting into that lorry because they're going to be found out by migrants after migrant tells us the same story like majid here. it's london. they're determined to reach and you will keep trying to get to london. >> london? yes i go to london. >> london? yes i go to london. >> within minutes, majid and his friends are around the latest lorry to arrive . but the driver lorry to arrive. but the driver sees them and tries, telling them there's no point in climbing aboard . as he's heading climbing aboard. as he's heading to belgium , it's clear they to belgium, it's clear they don't believe him. and as he pulls out of the lorry park , pulls out of the lorry park, unbelievably just visible on the
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roof. here is 15 year old majid . roof. here is 15 year old majid. when we catch up with the lorry on the motorway , the driver has on the motorway, the driver has discovered majid and another migrant pulling over as they jump migrant pulling over as they jump . off they're dicing with jump. off they're dicing with death . migrants have been death. migrants have been injured and killed on these roads, but that doesn't put them off. and they're more determined than ever to reach the uk . mark than ever to reach the uk. mark white gb news calais . white gb news calais. >> well, mark white joins us now in the studio . mark, we've been in the studio. mark, we've been talking a lot about the rwanda plan and the various obstacles it needs to overcome to get those flights off the tarmac. but clearly what you've you're showing us in this report is that even if the rwanda scheme does get off the ground and there will be many other routes that illegal migrants take. >> yes . i that illegal migrants take. >> yes. i mean, those coming in by by irregular or illegal routes , regardless of whether
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routes, regardless of whether it's small boats or in the backs of lorries , they are all under of lorries, they are all under threat of being sent to rwanda. if the scheme ever gets off the ground . so i think the ground. so i think the difficulty that the migrants have encountered in terms of taking the whole rwanda deal seriously is that when it was first announced by boris johnson on what, a year and nine months or more ago , they were quite or more ago, they were quite concerned about it. they believed that, you know , this believed that, you know, this could potentially be the fate that was awaiting them if they got to the uk, there would be sent to rwanda. but so much time has passed. no one takes it at all seriously now. and they continue to try to come on the boats, but it might be down by a third. but what we're told is that the reason for that is that people smugglers themselves are controlling the numbers going over there. and there's also been a year really of quite a lot of bad weather. it's nothing according to those that we've
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been speaking to in the camps to do with the government's policy here. and aside from the boats , here. and aside from the boats, is this age old problem of getting in on the backs of these lorries as as i say, it's not a new problem , but it's one that's new problem, but it's one that's never gone away. it's one that in most people's eyes has gone away because we never talk about it. we did ten years ago or so, but we never do now. so people could be forgiven for thinking it is not an issue anymore. but it is not an issue anymore. but it absolutely is. these people are still coming across in their thousands in the back of lorries. do you get the impression, mark, that the french authorities are doing the best they can with the resources they have, or is there a i don't know how to put this. >> could it be that it's easier for them to sort of turn a blind eye every now and again ? eye every now and again? >> yeah, i'm not sure about that. you can, you know, understand and perhaps the french police is perhaps not as
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motivated as they might be. if you've got an antisocial neighbour who decides they want to move on and you're really going to try to put all of your effort into stopping him, they tell us that the reason that they're struggling to stop lots of them is just because of the scale of the task . they've got scale of the task. they've got close to 100 miles of coastline to try to guard, to stop the small boats from launching . and small boats from launching. and in addition to that, just around the khalife area, there are dozens of areas where these migrants are jumping aboard lorries and not even doing it all of the time in the likes of lorry parks. you'll see them waiting at road junctions and roundabouts. and if the lorry sort of pulls up, roundabouts. and if the lorry sort of pulls up , they're sort of pulls up, they're waiting for another vehicle to pass. waiting for another vehicle to pass . they'll chance their arm pass. they'll chance their arm there to try and get back into there to try and get back into the back of the lorries. and it's not just cali, it's in boulogne, it's in other french ports along the northern coast
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of france and up into belgium as well, where you'll see migrants again sneaking into the back of lorries , knowing that these lorries, knowing that these lorries, knowing that these lorries are eventually headed to the uk. but mark, this is a huge problem. >> that's not just one to do with the united kingdom or indeed not just france. we've seen the tens of thousands of migrants landing on lampedusa in italy. we've seen the path way through greece. we've seen migrant landings in the mediterranean up by almost 80. the number of illegal migrants to continental european countries, up on average by a third. meanwhile, to the united kingdom down this year is the government struggling with what, frankly, is a global crisis? >> yes, that's absolutely right. i mean, i was in lampedusa a couple of months back when all these boats were coming across and speaking to very concerned
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and speaking to very concerned and people there on that italian island, and they are grappling with an enormous increase in the numbers coming across from north africa , not just into italy and africa, not just into italy and the italian islands, but of course, the greek islands. some of the spanish islands as well . of the spanish islands as well. and that doesn't even begin to address those who are coming by land up through over turkey and up the western balkans route . it up the western balkans route. it is a very significant issue . is a very significant issue. it's an issue that, quite frankly , has divided many frankly, has divided many european union countries who are sort of fighting like cats in a sack themselves over the best way forward . and in terms of, way forward. and in terms of, you know, redrawing and re sort of sort of getting the kind of borders referred , fortified, if borders referred, fortified, if you like, to try to stop them crossing borders . so it's an crossing borders. so it's an issue that the european union is grappling with with as well as the uk. it is not just a uk
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problem, but what we can say for sure is that a proportion of those crossing to lampedusa and other locations is in southern europe will come up eventually to the coast of northern france with a view to trying to get to the uk and a lot of the european countries are getting tougher when it comes to border controls. >> i was reading this morning that germany, for example, has introduced asking those tougher border control checks. they, of course, took quite a relaxed approach angela merkel. approach under angela merkel. >> yeah, and you've got outs, you know, between the likes of germany, france and italy because as you know, italy has been accused of not doing its bit and taking a share of the totality of the migrants who are entering the european union. meanwhile of course, italy accuses germany and others of not doing enough to take a share of their migrants who are coming
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in from north africa into italy. so some real tensions within these european union countries about the correct course of action to take. but i think we can say for sure that across europe , even in countries like europe, even in countries like germany , where they have had germany, where they have had quite a liberal approach to migration in the past, quite a liberal approach to migration in the past , there is migration in the past, there is a much greater hardening of the outlook in their approach to the mass migration ocean of people into the european union. well mark white, thank you so much for bringing us that exclusive, those extraordinary pictures, but also that perspective of that. >> this is not just an issue that affects the uk. >> very interesting indeed, particularly how germany is changing their approach quite drastically . anyway, we're drastically. anyway, we're moving on. prince harry has lost a bid to throw out a newspaper publishers defence to libel claim. >> yes , the duke of sussex sued
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>> yes, the duke of sussex sued associated newspapers over an article written last year regarding his actions taken against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements when he was in the uk. got that ? he was in the uk. got that? well, the associated newspapers limited. they published the daily mail, their content quoting the claim, arguing the article expressed an honest opinion and did not cause serious harm to the prince's reputation . right. reputation. right. >> well, outside the royal courts of justice is gb news london reporter lisa hartle. lisa, can you break down for us in simple terms what's going on? >> yeah, it was quite a complicated story when you first come to it, but it's quite simple when you get to the bones of it. so basically it's all started with that article that you just mentioned that was printed in the mail on sunday last year discussing prince harry and his battle with the home office. now, prince harry's lawyers say that the article which claimed harry tried to keep details of his legal battle
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to reinstate the police protection secret from the pubuc protection secret from the public was an attack on his honesty and integrity and would undermine his charity work. so contesting the claim and this is where what we've heard of today from today, the decision on the defence or the defence that the publishers of newspaper have publishers of the newspaper have put forward argued is that this was an honest opinion. so this wasn't normal article of wasn't a normal news article of fact. this was an opinion piece. so their case, their defence is honest opinion and they , they honest opinion and they, they say that the piece didn't cause harm to prince harry's reputation version. so the claim will now go forward . if the will now go forward. if the judge had ruled that in favour of prince harry and so struck off that defence, then perhaps this wouldn't have gone to trial and maybe there would have been settlement between the two parties. but as the judge has not gone that way and has held up the defence, then the next stage will be trial. unless, as the judge said, there is some
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kind of settlement made before then. kind of settlement made before then . a date has not been set, then. a date has not been set, but it will likely be, of course next year . next year. >> well, thank you very much indeed. lisa hartle gb news, london reporter, bringing us the very latest from that case. i do wonder if prince harry is getting any sense of internal peace from all this these continued battles with the court. >> of course, this is only one of four different legal claims being brought by prince harry. he's got a couple over libel. he's got a couple over libel. he's got a couple over libel. he's got one over six surety. this one is a bit of both, actually , which is a nice mix. actually, which is a nice mix. but it does seem like he does really relish the challenge in court. really, really interesting . perhaps a moment of interesting. perhaps a moment of catharsis for him. well, maybe fight these battles after the break. >> tory, turmoil over the fresh rwanda plan continues. just how much of a blow could this saga prove to be for rishi sunak? don't go
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> good afternoon , britain. now >> good afternoon, britain. now the government could be open to compromises with rebel tory mps unhappy with rishi sunak's rwanda legislation . that's rwanda legislation. that's according to the new legal migration minister. >> but downing street says they wouldn't pre—empt any deals ahead of the debate next week. well it comes as the cost of the rwanda plan has soared to 240 million. >> so far. all that while zero flights have taken off. >> right. downing street
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maintained that the prime minister did not mislead his mps over the price tag of the scheme after it emerged the uk paid kigali an extra £100 million. so who's right? who's wrong? what's the truth ? let's sort the facts the truth? let's sort the facts from the fiction in our political editor, christopher hopeis political editor, christopher hope is here to help us with that. this talk of potential compromises on this legislation. what's all that about? >> it's a bit early now for that. i think that comes after tuesday's vote . there'll be a tuesday's vote. there'll be a nod and a wink as tom and emily both know very well to get this through the commons with as big a majority as possible. but they might try and do some kind of playing in the playing with detail in the report stage which come report stage which could come the or more likely in the week after or more likely in january in that interview this week, suella braverman, the former home secretary urged the pm to try and amend this bill as it goes through the house of commons, as i think that's where the battle will be fought. the real battle will be fought. i about testing i think tuesday is about testing the parliament and i the will of parliament and i expect of rebels will
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expect many of the rebels will abstain rather than voting against the government and risking a no confidence vote organised by labour for wednesday. it's interesting though that you have this sense of the government wants as big a majority as possible to pass it with authority through the house of commons. >> so then the house of lords would be would be less opposed onceit would be would be less opposed once it does, once it goes through parliamentary ping pong, what are the rebels hoping to achieve by just sort of abstaining, letting it pass but not pass with a great deal of authority? i suppose it's really tom, keeping your powder dry. >> i mean, we know all about the gunpowder plot in parliament, but it's keeping your powder dry for but for the later big battle. but you're because it wasn't you're right, because it wasn't mentioned of mentioned in the manifesto of the tory back in 2019, the tory party back in 2019, they need a big majority in they do need a big majority in the commons to force peers to accept it when it goes through there. if it's a narrow win or a very narrow win, then peers will feel emboldened to edit it and to forgive me to amend it and try and water it down as it goes
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through, goes through in the spfing through, goes through in the spring and we are at the beginning of a big battle which will soak up a lot of political journalists and mps time to trying to work out what will happen next. it's a mini version of the brexit wars, isn't it, with the right wing appointing a star chamber of legal experts to go through the 12 page report line line and the one nation line by line and the one nation caucus at the biggest caucus , caucus at the biggest caucus, the group in the tory party on the group in the tory party on the left of the party, about 100 mps that one against on mps in that one against 60 on the they're due to give the right. they're due to give their this weekend. their verdict this weekend. if they feel it goes too far away from convention on from the european convention on human a battle human rights, it's a battle about sovereignty. that's the heart this, that's why heart of this, and that's why it's like brexit. for many it's so like brexit. for many brexiteers, it wasn't about trading wasn't trading, it wasn't about anything it about anything else. it was about sovereignty runs britain? sovereignty. who runs britain? is brussels london the is it brussels or london in the same way this is about sovereignty. who's in control of our courts? strasbourg judges or judges in london? >> yes, it's interesting to frame it in that way. there certainly are a lot of parallels politically . the government has
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politically. the government has certainly pinned its hopes on this policy . we put its eggs in this policy. we put its eggs in one basket, perhaps when it comes to having this as a deterrent. what happens if this legislation doesn't pass ? would legislation doesn't pass? would they be able to admit that this isn't the right policy that's complete catastrophe ? complete catastrophe? >> emily, if this doesn't go through on tuesday , i expect through on tuesday, i expect labour will try and push for a confidence vote in the government, which the government will win. but it will make the party look holed below the waterline. the political opportunity for the government is great because labour has no real answer on immigration beyond what the government is doing at the moment. they want to more enforcement to support more enforcement colleagues on the continent. they want to do more about more two way deals with other countries. when they can do them and work closely with eu on the issue migration. that's issue of migration. but that's all basically the all basically what the government doing government is doing at the moment. on rwanda moment. this new idea on rwanda is the labour would would is what the labour would would repeal. now they get repeal. now if they can get rwanda through april for rwanda through by april for example, then it's a real wedge
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issue. if it starts to work, if flights start to take off, if people are dissuaded from trying to travel across channel to to travel across the channel to the because of the risk of the uk because of the risk of being rwanda , then being taken to rwanda, then that's a real win, because labour's is either do labour's position is either do a u—turn or repeal legislation labour's position is either do a u—tlis| or repeal legislation labour's position is either do a u—tlis workingal legislation labour's position is either do a u—tlis working .. legislation labour's position is either do a u—tlis working . so gislation labour's position is either do a u—tlis working . so there's1 labour's position is either do a u—tlis working . so there's an that is working. so there's an opportunity here for the tories, but the cost is mounting. emily and tom, as you see there, £240 million spent and not a single migrant taking yet to rwanda. now chris, just lastly, the conservatives have come under fire morning and throughout fire this morning and throughout today over a social media tweet that they put out a picture of a bbc journalist putting a middle finger up at the audience there. >> well, her producers , i should >> well, her producers, i should say, with the caption labour, when you ask for their plans to tackle illegal migration of millions of people have seen this and i suppose that's what the tories wanted. >> yes , you could say that. i've >> yes, you could say that. i've asked the tory party this morning, will you be taking it down? after criticism from left
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of centre tory mps tobias ellwood, alicia kearns and others as a source of the party, says to me it's not coming down. it was a topical encapsulate version of a labour party's position on migration, i.e. we're not going to do it. >> hm interesting. michael fabficant >> hm interesting. michael fabricant earlier, sir michael fabficant fabricant earlier, sir michael fabricant suggested that perhaps they'd got her. what? what's the word? what did he say? he said that they identity mistaken. >> thought that she was >> they thought that she was a labour i don't believe him. labour mp. i don't believe him. >> yes. mistaken identity. a case case of case of an innocent case of mistaken identity. >> well, me, tom and emily, >> well, for me, tom and emily, it's completely in plain it's just completely in plain day that there's an election campaign underway in all but name this of thing is what name. this kind of thing is what happens during election campaign. i mean, people there's lots of pearl clutching amongst people, that the people, mps who feel that the party of thatcher and churchill shouldn't doing this, you shouldn't be doing this, you know, i would say get shouldn't be doing this, you knthe i would say get shouldn't be doing this, you knthe world. vould say get shouldn't be doing this, you knthe world. thisi say get shouldn't be doing this, you knthe world. this is ay get shouldn't be doing this, you knthe world. this is howet in the real world. this is how the people on twitter x forever it's called communicate. it's not where voters are. most people aren't really on x or twitter really, who decide
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elections. they won't notice it. it's classic case. and guess what? tom and emily, we are talking labour migration talking about labour migration policy because not least 13 million people have seen the tweet and now we're spending our time discussing it. it's kind of worked. so sorry. worked. i'm so sorry. >> yeah. or labour immigration policy lack thereof policy or perhaps lack thereof of, immigration policy of, of labour immigration policy . that's certainly the criticism from one of the aisle. from one side of the aisle. i should update it though. it's now 14.9 million people who have seen that tweet. >> i don't think it's worth pearl clutching about. i mean, it's nowhere near as bad as the labour campaign with rishi sunak wants. oh, what they say wants. oh, what did they say about crime statistics? they were pretty fruity, but thank you very much indeed. christopher our political christopher hope, our political edhon christopher hope, our political editor, bringing the very editor, bringing us the very latest well, much more latest from well, much more after headlines . after your news headlines. >> tom, thank you. it's 233. this is the latest from the newsroom. downing street has rejected claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda
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scheme. that's after it emerged costs have reached £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year . the prime minister, coming year. the prime minister, rishi sunak, who is facing division within his party over the asylum plan, has vowed to finish the job. he's hoping to rush emergency legislation through parliament with the first vote on tuesday . a 16 year first vote on tuesday. a 16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murdering leon gordon in east london. the 42 year old was shot dead in hackney on tuesday evening, a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy also suffered gunshot wounds . prince harry has lost a legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. it means the case must go to trial. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following changes to his security arrangements . and
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security arrangements. and mourners are paying tribute to the pogues frontman shane macgowan . boy wes streeting macgowan. boy wes streeting covid way and the bells were ringing of progressive stage . ringing of progressive stage. christmas hit fairytale of new york was just one of many of the songs ringing out as his cortege made its way through the streets of dublin. the irish president and celebrities are expected to attend his funeral . you can get attend his funeral. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . right news is. right >> for more political analysis on that tweet, the ad campaign from the conservatives joining us is former labour mp ivor capun us is former labour mp ivor caplin and leader of ukip, neil hamilton. thank you very much for joining us again. so this forjoining us again. so this controversial tweet from the conservatives from conservative hq , i think we can have a little hq, i think we can have a little look on our screen here. it is a picture of a bbc presenter essentially swearing at the audience by mistake, although although what we have done for our very sensitive viewers at home is to blur out which particular finger , which finger
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particular finger, which finger is being held up so no one could possibly guess what this scene is actually showing. >> that's the captioned, crucially with labour. >> when you ask for their plans to tackle illegal migration. ivor is this a is this a quick witted , clever way of mobilising support? >> i think this is done off camera by. i think we can safely say that for the bbc point of view as as for the tories, you know, finally starting to campaign a bit. i think we as a labour party might be quite happy with that. we're quite happy with that. we're quite happy to have them out on about and start to realise there's a general election coming at some point . and what they said was point. and what they said was completely and utterly irrelevant. it's interesting because there have been conservative mps, not least the foreign affairs committee chair alicia kearns, who've said, i've told you to take this down. >> i can't believe it's still up. yeah, i suppose that sort of division within the conservative party might not be the best sort
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of message to be projecting , of message to be projecting, difficult to really know what the hell's going on in there, doesn't it? >> i mean, in real terms, you know, i was listening to what chris just said. you chris chris hope just said. you know, it's fair enough to know, and it's fair enough to make but at at make all those points. but at at the same time, it is quite difficult to understand which bit of the tory party is talking to you. bit of the tory party is talking to yl u. bit of the tory party is talking to yl suppose . i suppose, neil, >> i suppose. i suppose, neil, the, point of the the, the point of the controversy might be that there is controversy about this . so is controversy about this. so we're all showing this tweet that says labour don't have a plan for illegal migration. i suppose the suppose that's what the conservatives want. >> about the message >> talking about the message that talking media. that is talking about the media. well, actually. well, they did actually. the labour actually labour party did actually get questioned on this as a result. >> so they get asked >> so they did get asked about their policy. their illegal migration policy. but yeah. but i take your point. yeah. >> i think it's quite an >> so i think it's quite an amusing photograph. i'd be surprised if it hasn't breached the advertising standards authority's may authority's code, so there may be issues this as well be legal issues in this as well with my wig on. and so i'm not sure it was a good idea to in practical terms, because we were talking about was it right for israel to publish that
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photograph early on? you know, that's necessarily for that's not necessarily good for israel. perhaps is not israel. and this perhaps is not necessarily an effective means of advertising for the conservative party yes. >> this compare, >> how does this compare, though, labour's though, ivor, to labour's campaign? not too long ago, a few months ago, that quite few months ago, that was quite controversial . they wrote things controversial. they wrote things like, you think adults like, do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison ? children should go to prison? rishi sunak doesn't . and these rishi sunak doesn't. and these got lots of people saying this tweet implies that the prime minister doesn't want paedophiles to go to prison. and there was outrage around that. is it just all gloves? >> and it did come down. we took that one down. i think i recall. i'm not sure, did we not? i thought we did take that one down. you know what i think? down. do you know what i think? maybe we still get then. maybe we can still get it then. >> get it . >> obviously get it. >> obviously get it. >> enough. look, i. i mean, >> fair enough. look, i. i mean, social media is social media. it's not what actually determines general election ultimately. you know , there may ultimately. you know, there may be x number of people who like their social media, but it doesn't always mean that it's
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actually what people are thinking. they on day there are very few advertisements that will actually change the political weather or, you know , political weather or, you know, we all remember the saatchi and saatchi posters in 1979. labour isn't working the winter of discontent. and i think that those images in the labour adverts you were talking about a minute ago, i think they actually backfired because general public didn't believe that. >> sorry, neil, we've got an example here want example here that we want to show at home. this was an show people at home. this was an example of labour's campaign previously criticised previously that was criticised quite a lot. do you think an aduu quite a lot. do you think an adult convicted of possessing a gun with intent to harm should go to prison? rishi does not. >> well , i not. >> well, i don't think that labour needed the text in to order get people to vote for them. rather than him because i think rishi sunak got to the level of support now where he himself is an impediment to tory success in elections . so i mean success in elections. so i mean this is a complicated psychological considerations in
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advertising when . we just all be advertising when. we just all be relieved, when we get to 2024 and we know there's going to be and we know there's going to be an election because some of this fringe stuff, which is what i would regard as, can stop and we can talk about serious can start to talk about serious political issues that the country needs. well what a wonderful segway , because there wonderful segway, because there is something quite serious that has happened in london this week, which is that counter terror officials have been called in to investigate an explosion. >> yes . but explosion. >> yes. but this has been an explosion of ulez cameras. so perhaps not as dramatic as as what you would assume when you hear the letters . ied. this hear the letters. ied. this hasn't been targeting people. but but people have been blowing up ulez cameras. neil this is this is not acceptable . this is not acceptable. >> well, obviously, it's criminal damage. so one can't approve of that kind of activity . but i, i think it was
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inevitable given the degree of opposition, which there is in the outer areas of london in particular, to what people see as a completely unfair impost upon them . and it's going to upon them. and it's going to impose very significant costs upon people who can least afford to assume them . to assume them. >> so although one can't any way encourage this kind of activity, quite the opposite . quite the opposite. >> i do think that in at least for the time being, this is this is a risk and it's impossible to police all these cameras dotted around all over the place because numbers are just too because the numbers are just too great. >> and ivor, came off the >> and ivor, it came off the news the policy news agenda because the policy was through . but that was put through. but that does clearly see people are still very angry about it, that resentment of this policy is still very much there. >> but these are individual people. look, i mean, you know, you've got to do something about air quality. there's no question about in london. i think about that in london. i think we've experienced over
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we've all experienced that over the years . you've greater, the years. you've got greater, greater london. well, maybe, maybe not. but that's something that the mayor decided to do. the power to do the mayor has that power to do it . why why should the it. why should why should the mayor not carry out something on that basis that he sees as a health issue? >> it wasn't in his manifesto. so the most recent expansion and i always come back to manifestos and remind you that in 1997 manifesto, no, it didn't say we were going to make the bank of england independent. >> later, after the >> and six days later, after the election, so just be election, we did. so just to be clear , reading the manifesto , i clear, reading the manifesto, i didn't say comes to the general election . election. >> no point reading a labour manifesto you're manifesto because you're not going to get what you want. >> you've been shaking >> neil, you've been shaking your that. >> neil, you've been shaking youyeah, that. >> neil, you've been shaking youyeah, because that. >> neil, you've been shaking youyeah, because iniat. >> neil, you've been shaking youyeah, because in outer london >> yeah, because in outer london there problem with air there isn't a problem with air quality we've seen the quality and we've seen the results of the studies results of the various studies which made that ulez which have been made that ulez will make absolutely no difference whatsoever in places like bromley or whatever , like bromley or or whatever, which was behind the legal challenge to on on the point of the legal challenge. >> ultimately , it is within the >> ultimately, it is within the mayor's authority to do this.
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but we have devolved these powers. i find it irrespective of my view on ulez, i find it uncomfortable when people try to do politics through the courts. it's something that feels quite american. it's something that doesn't really feel like it should be how we do politics in the uk. do you think it was wise for these councils try and for these councils to try and find spurious reason to find some spurious reason to take the mayor to court over this rather than saying, look, there's election in there's a mayoral election in london in less than six months time, you can make your view known ballot box. known at the ballot box. >> , of course, that's one >> well, of course, that's one argument. but the problem is that ulez was not introduced after that election. it was introduced before and the costs which is going to impose upon people will be felt in the pocket right up to and possibly after election day. so i do think that khan overreached himself in the way in which this was introduced . and i personally was introduced. and i personally think it's disproportion unit to any gain which could conceivably
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flow from it . and i personally i flow from it. and i personally i would get rid of the mayoralty of london and devolve of many of their of the mayor's powers to their of the mayor's powers to the boroughs. and for things like policing, we could have a separate authority and transport. similarly and there's no need for london government in the way in which it's currently constructed. in my opinion. >> you know what i tend i tend to agree, actually, i'm not sure you both these mayors are all they more power . it's they want is more power. it's a power grabbing exercise. and ulez be honest, it's a money spinner. we heard earlier this week that millions have been raised already by this extension of the ulez, but there are only three, something like 8 or 900,000 cars in the whole 32 boroughs that are old enough to be ulez. >> it's not going to make much difference, though. well well, it will do if you drive every day. obviously no, but it's not going to make much difference to
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air quality if you're saying that there are not many, many cars that. but these are the old qualifiers, neil. these the qualifiers, neil. these are the older they have older cars. yes. but they have they the ability that they don't have the ability that they don't have the ability that the modern cars do. your car and my car are probably highly modern and therefore we don't affect the air space and i did change my car in order to become ulez compliant because i didn't want to spend £12.50 a day to. >> can we come back to this point? >> i wanted to upgrade anyway, but i just brought it forward. >> this point about mayors. i think i completely disagree with the both of you. give you a point . i the both of you. give you a point. i think a good mayor of a combined authority of a significant area can really lift that area up. and if we look at we don't have to just look at one party. we can look at what andy burnham has done for greater manchester, what ben houchen done for the tees houchen has done for the tees valley, what andy street has done for the west midlands. these are all areas that i think have really benefited from having good example. >> what would you point to as as
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great successes purely from those mayors from from you know, ben? >> ben houchen has brought steelmaking back to teesside . he steelmaking back to teesside. he has made that airport that was looking like it was going to close down up in the up in teesside, back up and running. andy burnham has instituted a new transport policy, expanded the tram, brought in the network and andy street has brought in hundreds of millions of pounds of investment. we also have to say that, of course , london say that, of course, london needs a mayor. needs to have a mayor. >> neil's entitled to >> i mean, neil's entitled to his opinion, course, but the his opinion, of course, but the reason london has a mayor without some of the responsibilities that other mayors , and that goes back mayors have, and that goes back a long way to when certainly the first two mayors were ken livingstone and someone called bofis livingstone and someone called boris , i remember. and you know, boris, i remember. and you know, they they both were very controversial mayors. and i think that if we give if we give a mayor with proper responsibilities , that would be responsibilities, that would be a good thing. >> i don't think you want a bofing >> i don't think you want a boring mayor, i think >> i don't think you want a boriwantayor, i think >> i don't think you want a boriwantayymayor i think >> i don't think you want a boriwantayymayor like i think >> i don't think you want a
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bori wantayymayor like borisk you want a mayor like boris johnson, someone who is sort of a bombastic ambassador. he could run the united states and run around the united states and sell i'm not sure sell london. and i'm not sure that perhaps for all of his qualities, sadiq khan, is that great salesman. >> i thought he was best when he was caught on that that that tightrope thing. >> oh, when boris johnson was caught on the zip line. yeah, the zip line. >> i thought that fantastic. >> i thought that was fantastic. so up on the brighton seafront. >> you put it, you put a very good case, tom, for the benefits of mayors, i would argue of having mayors, i would argue that mayor the that perhaps one mayor for the entirety quite entirety of london is quite tficky entirety of london is quite tricky and often policies tend to contradict the westminster government , but also also government, but also also i wonder if maybe tom harwood wants to be the mayor of london? not a chance . is that not? why not a chance. is that not? why not? you want to? >> i am nowhere near as bombastic or iconoclastic as previous mayors of london. i would not. but it is interesting you raise this could grow into the job. >> i'm sure this is a bit of breaking news. >> this debate is precisely what happenedin >> this debate is precisely what happened in parliament in 1986 when margaret thatcher decided
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to abolish the glc , then led by to abolish the glc, then led by ken livingstone , and when he ken livingstone, and when he became the london mayor, the first thing he said upon being elected was, as i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted, which i just think for whatever else you think about ken livingstone , that was about ken livingstone, that was about ken livingstone, that was a cracking line. that was a great line. yeah. >> okay. well, the debate on whether we should have a mayor in london will continue on rages on. but of course. yeah, good reminder that it's actually quite new. it is new. so >> yes, but yes, the king of brexit. well, that's what that's what it's written there. the king of i don't think king and brexit. brexit is all about democracy anyway, the democracy anyway. anyway, the king become king of brexit wants to become king jungle. our king of the jungle. that's our very own nigel farage. he has this message you. this message for you. >> i'm asking you to vote. remain. seriously , vote for remain. no, seriously, vote for me remain in the jungle now. me to remain in the jungle now. the easiest way to do it is to get the i'm a celebrity app that gives you five, five free votes or you can phone or text.
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>> oh, well, neil, you have worked with nigel in the past. do you think he can win it? >> i don't think he will actually, because you have to be rather bland than nigel. i think in order to win it may be that gb news is sterling supporter. constant adverts, adverts . it constant adverts, adverts. it does the trick because with our growing audience , who knows what growing audience, who knows what might happen? but of course i've got some experience with this because my wife christine was in the very first series, of course, and she was actually in the final. she she was third. and my feeling that nigel and my feeling is that nigel will final, he will get to the final, but he won't actually it. won't actually win it. >> course, >> so christine, of course, shares accolade matt shares that accolade with matt hancock, year came hancock, who last year came third. either do you think nigel will or worse than the will do better or worse than the former secretary? i've former health secretary? i've got who nigel is . got no idea who nigel farage is. >> i haven't seen a single part of this programme, not this programme . sorry. i meant that programme. sorry. i meant that the programme on itv. i haven't seen you . seen you. >> seen you. >> haven't you haven't seen any of it. have you ever watched imaceleb. >> i have watched. i've i was a celebrity about five years ago.
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i must have had a few days off or something, you know. but i haven't otherwise . haven't watched it otherwise. >> it's going on for about haven't watched it otherwise. >>years, going on for about haven't watched it otherwise. >>years, hasn't ng on for about haven't watched it otherwise. >>years, hasn't it? on for about 19 years, hasn't it? >> no , i don't think. going. >> no, i don't think. going. yes. well actually more that is all we've got time for. >> oh, no. sorry to rudely cut you off there. >> neil hamilton and of course, ivor caplin have us. ivor caplin have been with us. thank you very much indeed for watching. >> yes. up next, it's martin daubney, so go anywhere daubney, so don't go anywhere for you on monday. for that. and see you on monday. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello . we've got further wet >> hello. we've got further wet weather to come over the next 24 hours. still got some rain this evening in the north, some clearer spells for a time before it turns wetter and windier from the southwest on. and the southwest later on. and that's all down area of that's all down to this area of low that's slides away low pressure. that's slides away as we head through tonight . but as we head through tonight. but then next weather system then this next weather system pushes from the pushes its way up from the southwest, bringing those stronger still, for stronger winds. but still, for a
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time some rain a time, some heavy rain and a weather warning in place for parts southwest scotland parts of southwest scotland through this evening as that pushes eastwards, some pushes its way eastwards, some clearer skies through the midlands, southeastern areas of england a time before this england for a time before this next swathe of wet weather. you can see from the brighter colours there'll be some heavier bursts the further bursts in there and the further risk flooding for parts of risk of flooding for parts of somerset, dorset and devon. thanks to that heavy rain. so there will be some disruption on first thing on saturday morning if you're making plans for saturday, christmas related plans, do be aware of the wet weather. it trundles its way northwards the northwards slowly through the day, persists, giving day, but persists, giving some further heavy rain for northern ireland. and winds whip up ireland. and those winds whip up as well, particularly through irish sea coasts where we could see gusts of 60 to miles an see gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour at damaging gusts in hour at times, damaging gusts in places . on the whole, it's quite places. on the whole, it's quite a day, but it won't be a mild day, but it won't be feeling particularly mild with all rain, drier , all that rain, some drier, clearer first thing clearer conditions first thing on morning. yet on sunday morning. but yet again, we look out to the west and next band of wet and we see this next band of wet weather its way in weather pushing its way in through the afternoon. but
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monday drier. there will monday will be drier. there will be showers on tuesday and be some showers on tuesday and then signs of things settling down midweek . bye bye for now i >> -- >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .
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