offended by the national are so offended by the national anthem that they've got the university to ban it. >> i ask whether or not those unpatriotic woke brats should shut up or leave britain . now, shut up or leave britain. now, does this tweet offend you .7 oh does this tweet offend you.7 oh well, i does this tweet offend you? oh well, i was certainly quite offended by that. but there we go.the offended by that. but there we go. the tories are in turmoil about a post saying that labour are sticking the middle finger up at the public over immigration. but they're right, aren't prince harry? well, aren't they? prince harry? well, he's lost a court battle to get a newspapers libel defence thrown out. will harry keep getting kicking courts getting a kicking in the courts and ed is phillip schofield as well . yes. about to make well. yes. about to make a sensational return to your television screens. a new report from itv has been branded a whitewash and a waste of time. but it could lead to his return. over on my panel tonight, i have got emma woolf john, sergeant and tonia buxton. this is patrick christys. tonight, your

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the band's hit christmas track fairytale of new york was sung dunng fairytale of new york was sung during the service. >> family, friends, politicians and celebrities filled saint mary of the rosary church in county tipperary . hollywood county tipperary. hollywood a—lister johnny depp was among those delivering a reading , those delivering a reading, giving a eulogy. his sister siobhan said. shane macgowan lit a fire that burns in ireland and across the world, and his widow , across the world, and his widow, victoria, mary clarke, spoke and praised of the singer. >> he really did live so close to the edge that he he seemed like he was going to fall off many times. i mean, we've had me and siobhan and all the family we've kind of lived in terror, haven't we, for a very long time. but on the plus side, i think the that explorer mission . think the that explorer mission. led to a kind of creativity which may not have been possible without the use of all these substances . substances. >> and you can watch that on tv

online, dab on radio and on our smart speaker by saying play gb news. and now it's back to . patrick >> well, come along now. there is turmoil on tory twitter. the conservative party's official account put this picture out. okay, so there we go . the okay, so there we go. the caption says labour, when you ask for their plans to tackle illegal migration now personally i think they've got a point . i think they've got a point. while labour's plans will tackle the human traffickers, well , so the human traffickers, well, so sir keir starmer is going to sendin sir keir starmer is going to send in the sas to rampage across europe. is he obviously not. we know what they really mean. with mean. closer cooperation with europe. towards europe. another step towards creeping into the eu . the creeping back into the eu. the same european forces , same european security forces, by the way, that have allowed the entire continent to be turned something resembling turned into something resembling a dumping problem a dumping ground. the problem with working more closely with the eu is that end up the eu is that you end up working more closely with a group people who don't group of people who don't ideologically want stop ideologically want to stop the migrant in my view, migrant crisis. in my view,

people leo varadkar in people like leo varadkar in ireland, clearly sees ireland, who clearly sees nothing wrong with mass illegal immigration people immigration and thinks people protesting problem are protesting about the problem are the problem, they need to the problem, and they need to have their human rights obliterated. only have to obliterated. you only have to look at the fact that tens of thousands of inflatable dinghies are be transported thousands of inflatable dinghies are the be transported thousands of inflatable dinghies are the entireansported thousands of inflatable dinghies are the entire continent of across the entire continent of europe and find their way to the shoreline of calais to know how little cares about little europe cares about stopping this problem. i'm convinced european leaders convinced that european leaders want the migrant crisis . the want the migrant crisis. the labour party say that they will process asylum claims quicker or when they say that all i hear is we'll just wave them through. so i think the tories might have a point , but i think the tories might have a point, but then you get some people would call him the taliban's pr guru. he would deny that. tobias ellwood that. of course, tobias ellwood tweeting that that tweeting things like that that you see on your screens now. you can see on your screens now. please delete he says. please delete this, he says. i mean, it's just warfare in mean, it's just open warfare in the party, isn't it? the tory party, isn't it? they're off about they're kicking off about a tweet now all pearl tweet now, all these pearl clutching one nation, tories whinging things this, whinging about things like this, being . well, you know being demeaning. well, you know what's demeaning? but it's being turned into a care home for vast

parts of the third world by people who had years to see the migrant crisis coming and did absolutely nothing until it was far too late. you know what's demeaning? ordinary brits is being taxed into poverty to prop up crumbling, failing public services, creaking under the weight rapid population weight of rapid population growth. stop the boats enthusiast jonathan gullis tweeted. i approve this message over that tweet that we saw there from the tory party he and then former number 10 chief of staff gavin barwell tweeted, to be fair, this is about his level . ithen be fair, this is about his level . i then got this appeared to hit back by posting a story about barwell allegedly getting caught out in some kind of kinky porn shocker twitter, which porn shocker on twitter, which didn't go down that well. but i didn't go down that well. but i did think it was quite hilarious, actually. anyway the original still original tweet is still up there. find it offensive. there. people find it offensive. personally, i find the channel migrant crisis much more offensive . i think would be offensive. i think it would be nice those cretins who sit in nice if those cretins who sit in the house of commons actually did about it. but did something about it. but there's a lot to unpack here. let's thoughts of my

let's get the thoughts of my wonderful got former wonderful panel. i've got former bbc political bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant. i've author and broadcaster i've got author and broadcaster emma woolf, got author emma woolf, and i've got author and activist tanya buxton. i'll work my way down the line. tanya, i will start with you. do you think that labour are sticking the middle finger up to us about this? >> yes, absolutely. and without a shadow of a doubt . and i like a shadow of a doubt. and i like the fact that the tory party shows they've a bit of the fact that the tory party sisense they've a bit of the fact that the tory party sisense of they've a bit of the fact that the tory party sisense of humour a bit of the fact that the tory party sisense of humour and a bit of the fact that the tory party sisense of humour and putt of the fact that the tory party sisense of humour and put that a sense of humour and put that out because let me tell you, the lefties are chucking lefties are always chucking things those that centre things at those that are centre or right world. so or right of the world. and so i think was really funny. the think it was really funny. the labour party has no plan because they don't intend to stop anything keir anything from happening and keir starmer whatever the anything from happening and keir starrminimum whatever the anything from happening and keir starrminimum wrhe�*ver the anything from happening and keir starrminimum wrhe needsz anything from happening and keir starrminimum wrhe needs to do bare minimum that he needs to do because he of knows he's because he kind of knows he's going . whatever happens, because he kind of knows he's goin�*going . whatever happens, because he kind of knows he's goin�*going to whatever happens, because he kind of knows he's goin�*going to winatever happens, because he kind of knows he's goin�*going to winatev okay. morocco since >> okay. and morocco since a minor disagreement there. >> well, i think it's always a mistake when politicians start getting and trying to

getting involved and trying to getting involved and trying to get involved media. get involved in social media. >> was slightly odd >> i think it was slightly odd to that to use that image of to use that to use that image of the newsreader yesterday sticking finger in, which was sticking a finger in, which was a mistake . it sticking a finger in, which was a mistake. it was sticking a finger in, which was a mistake . it was funny. a mistake. it was funny. >> did you not find it funny? >> did you not find it funny? >> not really. and also i wish they would getting on they would focus on getting on with like you say, we with the job. like you say, we have a crisis in this have a huge crisis in this country and do you what? country and do you know what? it doesn't what we doesn't even matter what we think it. what tweet. doesn't even matter what we thin fact it. what tweet. doesn't even matter what we thin fact is it. what tweet. doesn't even matter what we thin fact is the what tweet. doesn't even matter what we thin fact is the british tweet. doesn't even matter what we thin fact is the british people at. the fact is the british people have spoken what they at have spoken what they spoke at the saying we the brexit referendum saying we want back control of our want to take back control of our borders. have since spoken borders. they have since spoken again and again and again that they not happy these they are not happy with these numbers, it's numbers, whether whether it's legal or illegal legal migration or illegal immigration. the fact is we have got nearly a million people now coming to this country over the past 12 months. it is too many. our public services are creaking. they are crumbling. people have asked our government to do something about that. and what i find really offensive , what i find really offensive, forget the forget the silly tweet of stuff tweet and all of that stuff and all them hitting back at each tweet and all of that stuff and all andn hitting back at each tweet and all of that stuff and all and just:ting back at each tweet and all of that stuff and all and just showing< at each tweet and all of that stuff and all and just showing the each tweet and all of that stuff and all and just showing the utter other and just showing the utter lack discipline. rishi lack of party discipline. rishi sunakin lack of party discipline. rishi sunak in meltdown yesterday. i mean, completely

mean, he seems completely deranged. his rwanda policy is just spiralling. the costs are spiralling out of control and he just seems to desperate just seems to be desperate to get ludicrous failed policy get this ludicrous failed policy through . but the point is, the through. but the point is, the british people would like immigration to be got under control, and that has still not happened. >> and john, i mean, obviously a tweeting anything like that was unbecoming of your unbecoming for a man of your stature. but do you think that there is some truth to it? you know, the tories have got a lot of rightly so. given of stick, rightly so. i've given him of stick in the last him a lot of stick in the last couple over couple of days, especially over this should the this rwanda plan. but should the should not should the fingers not be pointed labour now? pointed at labour now? well i mean, all well. mean, that's all very well. >> but for the tories they've really got a chance now they really got a chance now if they could together could grasp it to pull together around a plan. now, i don't think the plan is going to work, but there are moments in politics raw, difficult politics rough, raw, difficult moments when you support anything which will at least keep you going . and that's what keep you going. and that's what they to and if they do they need to do. and if they do involve arguing about labour and various things, when everybody knows attention on them knows the attention is on them on their prime minister, there's

a vote next week. and so they may think it's funny, but the pubuc may think it's funny, but the public are just thinking, now wait a moment. could these people themselves people just get themselves together, it out? is together, sort it out? what is a reasonable project ? and if not, reasonable project? and if not, it looks as if there's a real possibility. now that rishi sunak will have to call a general election soon. now they've got to decide whether they've got to decide whether they to go that way, but they want to go that way, but it's pit pat. let's it's not sort of pit pat. let's have a ping pong and let's fool about this is a moment of critical choice which could in fact could people could still be talking about this in five years time saying was the time or saying that was the moment now i think moment when well, now i think they've got to take this very seriously . and they're going seriously. and if they're going to themselves behind the to put themselves behind the rwanda it may not rwanda plan, knowing it may not work, it's a terrific political risk, but they may have to. it's not a great option. but it may be the only one they've got. >> i'll work way back down. >> i'll work my way back down. >> i'll work my way back down. >> work. really >> guangxi cannot work. i really i disrespect respectfully disagree. john disrespectfully. >> i disrespect everything you just said. >> i've said that a random plan will work, but you said it had a

reasonable chance and no, no, i did not say it has a reasonable chance. they have got to. don't get wrong. they have the get me wrong. they have got the reasonable chance is back the reasonable chance is to back the plan. though the may plan. even though the plan may not wonder if it would be >> but i wonder if it would be better stage. better at this stage. >> don't i think the >> please don't say i think the rwanda going to work rwanda plan is going to work because that really is ridiculous. didn't ridiculous. no, i didn't say anything tony, anything like that. well tony, do is any desire do you think there is any desire whatsoever politician in whatsoever from politician in europe actually really stop europe to actually really stop the migrant crisis? >> i mean, look at this now, >> i mean, i look at this now, i think so labour are saying things smash think so labour are saying thinhuman smash think so labour are saying thinhuman trafficking smash think so labour are saying thin human trafficking gangs.h the human trafficking gangs. well, going well, how are you going to do that we'll work with that? well, we'll work with europe, is the europe, right, but that is the same continent that has allowed this no, no. same continent that has allowed thisi no, no. same continent that has allowed thisi mean, no, no. same continent that has allowed thisi mean, the no, no. same continent that has allowed thisi mean, the rot no. same continent that has allowed thisi mean, the rot started in >> i mean, the rot started in europe with angela merkel opening and we are opening the doors and we are stuck with and stuck with it. and unfortunately, i just can't see unless something really dramatic happens , how it will ever stop, happens, how it will ever stop, because no. one, they don't have the appetite. they don't care. they at us. the they are laughing at us. the european union is laughing at us. >> us. >> the migrants are laughing at us. why >> one's laughing at us the other night. we are a joke. we have britain, great have become britain, great britain a joke.

have become britain, great britno, a joke. have become britain, great britno, it a joke. have become britain, great britno, it hasn't. a joke. >> no, it hasn't. >> no, it hasn't. >> it has. it has. if you actually follow the politics in these countries, as these different countries, as a lot are very, very lot of them are very, very worried concerned about worried and concerned about immigration to do about immigration and what to do about the particularly are the french particularly are involved a real political crisis. >> they're not bothered about . >> they're not bothered about. they couldn't care less really about whether a tweet has been sent whether labour sent to whether labour embarrassed rishi sunak embarrassed or what rishi sunak doing they're arguing amongst doing. they're arguing amongst themselves what they can do when there's meant be free there's meant to be free movement within the european union. well germany. >> you're covering this >> so you're covering this later very, all of them. >> but the idea they're laughing and laughing at us. well it's far well , i and laughing at us. well it's far well, i will push back >> well, i will push back slightly on that, john, because we have a package from mark we did have a package from mark wyatt in wyatt home security editor in calais a couple of days ago. and we did speak to a french politician who laughing at politician who was laughing at us and the who were us and the migrants who were man, well, i get what you man, which well, i get what you mean, did happen. mean, but i mean it did happen. so that. when we so there is that. emma, when we look at the way that the conservative politicians have gone after each other on this now regardless now though, i mean, regardless of or not, you know, i am of rwanda or not, you know, i am kind of sitting here now and

just thinking like, is this really fit government? is really fit for government? is this are? the longer this where we are? the longer this where we are? the longer this on, i do wonder this goes on, i do wonder whether not that's a problem this goes on, i do wonder wh

deranged. his speech about this is not only the right approach, it's the only approach as if rwanda was the only approach. well, what he needs to do is what he did with hs2 , which is what he did with hs2, which is shelve it and start again. >> what he needs to do is come out of the srh, hr and the european courts of human rights are what are messing us up. he needs to just grow a spine, come out of that and really be a dictator in this way because we've got nowhere to turn . we've got nowhere to turn. british people have no one to vote for, for the things that are important to them. i agree with you on the nato with laboun with you on the nato with labour, we can't vote for the conservatives. the only way that rishi if he did rishi could win is if he did that. would a big that. that would make a big difference. rwanda. unfortunately, mickey unfortunately, it feels mickey mouse. what they unfortunately, it feels mickey moustrying what they unfortunately, it feels mickey moustrying to what they unfortunately, it feels mickey moustrying to do what they unfortunately, it feels mickey moustrying to do because they were trying to do because they felt they had nothing to were trying to do because they felt buty had nothing to were trying to do because they felt buty iwas1othing to were trying to do because they felt buty iwas neverg to joke. >> even if it does, even if they ever get planes off the ground, off that runway, it will have cost £169,000 per migrant. i know that is ludicrous. i know. >> but the problem is rishi

sunakis >> but the problem is rishi sunak is not a very experienced politician. he he knows theoretically, if you're in a hole, stop digging. he should. in fact, the moment the supreme court or he knew the supreme court or he knew the supreme court were going to act, he should have been advised long before i know the decision. >> his adviser. >> his adviser. >> is that could >> how is it that they could three of in the supreme three of them in the supreme court is the point. could court this is the point. could be so firm. and wait a minute. the of the ruling, the key part of the ruling, which forgotten, which people have forgotten, is he's british he's saying it's a british court. said a british court. they said we're a british court. they said we're a british court . we're british court. we're following british law. and you still can't do it now. it's nothing echr or anything else or any other international british international treaty. british law about. you've got to in fact, look the asylum claims fact, look at the asylum claims and consider them. >> but i think you make a good point and it's something point there. and it's something that about the advice that who is people? one is advising these people? one thing that i suggest we can maybe behind is the maybe all unite behind is the funding , mental, appalling funding, mental, appalling leadership this country has leadership that this country has had for years now, for years in a variety of different guises. we are being let down by our leaders. we are we need.

>> is this something else ? >> is this something else? >> is this something else? >> this is it. >> this is it. >> we have a choice between sunak and starmer effectively. >> exactly. is this the best we've got? there are so many homeless conservatives, right now. speak to says i now. everybody i speak to says i can't vote labour. i just can't bnng can't vote labour. i just can't bring myself to vote for this. >> everything's got to become a disaster before urgent action is going. we could see the migrant crisis coming years ago. you know, it started out go started out on, you know, the greek islands getting filled up and working their way through in italy. and then germany like it's it it's no good just shunting it around then shunting around europe and then shunting it channel, moving it over the channel, just moving the around. it over the channel, just moving the we're around. it over the channel, just moving the we're (dealing with the >> we're not dealing with the problem source every now and then. >> do think when you're sort of because it people because i hate it when people say the country is finished and it's well. don't it's all going well. i don't think it's finished just think it's finished yet. just look in look what's happening in america. they're finding the same difficulty same extreme difficulty closing their one their border. they've had one president going to president in who was going to build they've got biden build a wall. they've got biden not knowing to do. they not knowing what to do. they have real troubles. there are thousands people. have real troubles. there are tho theids people. have real troubles. there are tho the differenceile. have real troubles. there are tho the difference»le.geography >> the difference in geography there, be fair, the there, though, to be fair, the southern border in united southern border in the united states, absolutely

states, it's absolutely vast. it's have it's on land. i mean, we have got essentially a moat around britain. i do think that should be easier. obviously be easier. it's obviously proving not to be. we're off to a you very, very a flyer. thank you very, very much. this later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut this later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut still this later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut still to this later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut still to come,this later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut still to come, as; later a flyer. thank you very, very muibut still to come, as prince on. but still to come, as prince harry loses his court case against the mail, we get the royal insight from bbc royal insight from former bbc royal insight from former bbc royal correspondent jennie bond. but next clash, but up next in the clash, freedom fighter young freedom fighter toby young goes head with novara media's head to head with novara media's aaron bastani as the woke bristol university bans the so—called offensive of national anthem from graduation ceremonies. are we wrong to be proud of our country? and what does this mean for the future? stay

weekend at 3 pm. on gb views, the people's channel, britain's news channel . news channel. >> well, we'll go straight in now with the clash . well, never now with the clash. well, never shying away from controversial moves. the now woke bristol university has sparked uproar after the national anthem has reportedly been scrapped from its graduation ceremonies. now historically, the russell group university had ended its graduation ceremonies with a student leading a rousing rendition of the national anthem. but it turns out the song was quietly axed from the ceremony last year and will now only be played when a representative of the royal family is present. so students at uni , which ranks ninth in at the uni, which ranks ninth in the uk , said that god save the the uk, said that god save the king was outdated and old fashioned and apparently potentially offensive. joining us now for the clash is the

general secretary of the free speech union, toby young and novara media co—founder aaron bastani shapps. thank you very much. looking forward to this. toby, i'll start with you. what do you make the idea now that do you make of the idea now that students apparently the students apparently think the national outdated and national anthem is outdated and offensive? well, it's hard to understand why the students would think the singing of the national anthem , god save the national anthem, god save the king is offensive. >> offensive to whom? there's nothing offensive about any of the lyrics and frankly, i find bristol has contempt for britain's history. britain's heritage slightly offensive, particularly when you bear in mind that bristol university depends for its financial survival on being subsidised by the british taxpayer. i think in the british taxpayer. i think in the year 21 to 22, it received almost £60 million in taxpayer funded. it received something like 225 million to pay for a new ai supercomputer in

november. it gets a huge amount of money from the taxpayer. i mean, if it really has such contempt for this country and its people and its traditions , its people and its traditions, well, maybe it should take its begging bowl elsewhere . begging bowl elsewhere. >> throw it over to >> or, aaron, throw it over to you . you. >> find it interesting >> well, i find it interesting that such an argument would come from toby, because obviously, toby, don't me toby, if you don't mind me saying, the centre, right. >> you believe in markets. i presume you're a supporter of privatised universities as the reforms to universities we've seen over the last 25 years and at the heart of those reforms, patrick, is the idea that these should operate as businesses, not as the cornerstone of a national political community. and i think we have to make that choice about what purpose do these organisations serve. i personally don't think universities should be like tesco primark . i think they tesco or primark. i think they should be part of a national community and i think as a result people shouldn't have to pay result people shouldn't have to pay fees. yes, of pay tuition fees. and yes, of course be a certain course there should be a certain respect deference to the respect and deference to the traditions the of the country traditions of the of the country at large. but you can't have it

both ways. you can't say on the one hand, we think these should be organisations, be privately run organisations, pure responding to the market and on the other hand they should be these vulnerable. august tradition oriented institutions , as i think it institutions, as i think it really has to be one or the other. >> okay, toby, is there not something maybe a bit deeper going on here about that generation through? generation coming through? i mean, was in mean, bristol university was in the for another reason this the news for another reason this morning actually, because one morning, actually, because one of its members staff was of its members of staff was allegedly making comments about whether or not someone should blow up a building that had jews in it. et cetera. i just wonder if academia as a whole and the generation coming through it now are , well, kind of pseudo are, well, kind of pseudo radical left activists? is that part of the problem here in your view? toby well, let's not jump to the conclusion. >> patrick, that all the students at the university support this decision or even that a majority of the students find that the singing of the national anthem at graduation ceremonies offensive . i mean,

ceremonies offensive. i mean, normally these is radical, progressive decisions . these are progressive decisions. these are dnven progressive decisions. these are driven by a small, progressive decisions. these are driven by a small , outspoken, driven by a small, outspoken, vociferous minority who are imposing their views on anyone else. and if the if a member of the silent majority tries to speak up in favour of most of the students , they immediately the students, they immediately get cancelled by this kind of authoritarian outrage mob. and i suspect that something like that has happened here. i don't think for a moment that the majority of bristol university students would find the singing of the national anthem at their graduation ceremonies offensive. it's the elite woke intellectual class at the university, i think, who are imposing these decisions on the rest. as george orwell said, and this was back in the 1940s. patrick he said that almost any english intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention dunng ashamed of standing to attention during god save the king than of stealing from a poor box. and i think amongst the tiny woke elite at bristol who are imposing their will on the rest

of the university. that's still true, aaron. >> what would you say to someone who says, look, if you don't like the national anthem of this country, then maybe you should leave? >> well, there is also the opportunity, of course, to just not sing it. i mean, if people don't like it, they don't have to sing it. that is generally also an option as so also an option as well. so i find the whole i do find the whole just be clear, whole thing, just to be clear, rather it's rather strange. obviously, it's not but if not it's not offensive. but if you don't like it or you don't know the words, if you're not a uk of course many uk national, of course many people to british people coming to british universities aren't then yeah, you sing it. you just don't have to sing it. nobody's to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it dy's to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is 's to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a bit to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a bit of to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a bit of a to so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a bit of a strange so. you just don't have to sing it. no it is a bit of a strange one. so it is a bit of a strange one in response to this idea that the know, the the british left, you know, the national know, it's national anthem, you know, it's sung football in sung at every football match. in my that's what i associate my mind, that's what i associate it with the england national it with is the england national side. that's when done. side. that's when it's done. more and more often than not. and i've never never had the never had a i've never had the slightest with it. i think slightest issue with it. i think perhaps if we a bit more perhaps if we wanted a bit more of banger, maybe, maybe we'd of a banger, maybe, maybe we'd adopt hope and adopt land of land of hope and glory. know, glory. but, you know, i understand that are is understand that are quite is quite conversation they quite big conversation and they go might a go beyond whatever might have a better interest

better melody at the interest thing. part about this is of course the generation gap. i think a really good think that's a really good point. was an point. i think there was an immense of affection for immense amount of affection for the queen purely because of her accomplishments. long she'd accomplishments. how long she'd beenin accomplishments. how long she'd been in the position. obviously she steered through she steered the country through so and think probably so much, and i think it probably is inevitable that for younger people , and i don't mean myself people, and i don't mean myself in that sadly , you know, i'm 39 in that sadly, you know, i'm 39 for 18 to 24 seconds, you know, i think there probably is a large number of them who, you know. yes toby's right. they won't you know , vehemently hate won't you know, vehemently hate the . they just won't the monarchy. they just won't care. and that's the challenge. that's the challenge for the monarchy in the 21st century is indifference apathy . indifference and apathy. >> not. dare >> yeah, but it's not. dare i say, toby, maybe the kind of thing that university parties, schools should be teaching people that the monarchy isn't irrelevant and that, you know, maybe it's a sign of a throwback to a period of time that we all have to move on from. and i actually just feel quite sorry for a lot of younger people coming through universities now because far as i can tell

because as far as i can tell now, i think they seem quite middle arable because there's a lot of the country that they detest . yes it does feel quite miserable. >> and, you know , what are they >> and, you know, what are they going to sing in place of the national anthem? they're probably not going to sing anything at all. there won't be anything at all. there won't be any singing now at graduation ceremonies bristol, which ceremonies at bristol, which does a little bit miserable does feel a little bit miserable compared to what came before. i mean, i resent this argument that because a lot of the students at bristol are international students, this is one of the arguments that's been made in favour of stopping singing the national anthem. a lot are international lot of them are international students. they're from different lot of them are international studentsthe ey're from different lot of them are international studentsthe world. om different lot of them are international studentsthe world. thedifferent lot of them are international studentsthe world. the national parts of the world. the national anthem will mean little to anthem will mean very little to them. the reasons them. but one of the reasons international students want to come to british universities is because their britishness. i because of their britishness. i think we, we, we, we dilute that britishness. we get rid of those britishness. we get rid of those british traditions, things like singing the national anthem at our peril . maybe international our peril. maybe international students wouldn't be so keen to come to our universities if they

become this kind of bland european eurovision song contest like blancmange and lose their british identity. >> aaron. is this not one of the reasons maybe why society is so disunited at the moment? reasons maybe why society is so disunited at the moment ? the disunited at the moment? the national anthem is something that people can unite behind. it's a way of maybe gluing a country together, something that we can all behind, like we can all bond behind, like a kind of rallying cry. and if we start to question that and say, oh, it's irrelevant and the monarchy is irrelevant and all of it not just of this, does it not just continue this relentless continue with this relentless pigeonholing and pigeonholing of people and frankly, ? frankly, division? >> well, i think just to respond to both that and what toby said a ago is that there is a moment ago is that there is increasingly little that is unique british unique about british universities , and that universities, and that is because we're them as because we're running them as businesses and it goes back to my point, if you my original point, if you want them that uniqueness them to have that uniqueness that relationship to previous generations, to a sense of continuity, both cultural and national, if you want that, then we can't run them as as things which basically, you know , crave

which basically, you know, crave the money of asset managers and hedge funds. so and i think this is a problem, by the way, for the centre right is that the centre right in this country has venerate business outsourcing, privatised for 40 years and what you do is you do get this blank monge of national institutions as we're seeing it, in particular with the universities. but you can see it everywhere else as well. and people like toby will and i'm not attacking toby here. i think this is what you would say. toby correct if wrong. people correct me if i'm wrong. people like well, like toby might say, well, they're the die they're obsessed with the die and the esg and all this kind of virtue signalling stuff that goes alongside the corporate capitalism. fine, let's have that conversation. but the point is, long as these are run as is, as long as these are run as businesses as national businesses and not as national institutions, you will have that problem. me , i think problem. look, for me, i think there's a really solid small c conservative argument in taking universities back to where they were 25, 30 years ago. guess what? that includes probably scrapping tuition fees . scrapping tuition fees. >> okay, look, chaps, really interesting stuff. thank you. proper debate that proper discussion love to see

discussion. and you love to see it. the general it. that was the general secretary free speech secretary of the free speech union, young novara union, toby young and novara media co—founder aaron bastani . media co—founder aaron bastani. we're talking about the national anthem. we're talk about patriotism. we're talking about people it . people rallying behind it. here's a little clip . we . bannau here's a little clip. we. bannau because . because. there we go. nigel farage doing his bit there, belting it out. at least it wasn't too sexy for my shirt, though. but who do you agree with in that debate there? is offensive to sing the is it offensive to sing the national okay. so becky is it offensive to sing the nattwitter okay. so becky is it offensive to sing the nattwitter says, okay. so becky is it offensive to sing the nattwitter says, if okay. so becky is it offensive to sing the nattwitter says, if oury. so becky on twitter says, if our country's national anthem offends you , then get out of the offends you, then get out of the country. this is our national anthem. sing it loud and proud. god king. inclined god save the king. i'm inclined to agree with you. there is an easy isn't there? if easy solution, isn't there? if you the national anthem of easy solution, isn't there? if y(country, he national anthem of easy solution, isn't there? if y(country, he ncan1al anthem of easy solution, isn't there? if y(country, he ncan go anthem of easy solution, isn't there? if y(country, he ncan go to them of a country, you can go to a different country . hainsey on different country. hainsey on twitter yes, in certain

twitter says yes, in certain circumstances. elaborate circumstances. didn't elaborate on that. cheers, though. hainsey vincent on twitter says, i don't find it offensive . however, find it offensive. however, i don't in god or the don't believe in god or the monarchy, it's largely monarchy, so it's largely meaningless to me personally. and you'll never catch me singing it , and you'll never catch me singing it, right? well, a range of views there. your verdict is in now 12.7, very specific, 12.7% of you think that the national anthem is offensive, 87.3% of you say that it is not. thank you for everybody who's taking part in that poll. there at gb news on twitter. coming up, as former itv this morning presents a phillip schofield admitted to a, quote, unwise, but not illegal affair with a younger colleague earlier this year. younger colleague earlier this year . an external investigation year. an external investigation has now found that itv was unable to uncover the relevant evidence until schofield's admission . evidence until schofield's admission. in evidence until schofield's admission . in late may 2023. admission. in late may 2023. well, i'll be joined by the mail's editor at large , mail's editor at large, charlotte griffiths, to dissect what this means and actually

whether or not phillip schofield could make a big return. i mean, has by this has he been exonerated by this now? there anything to now? was there anything to really with? some really admonish him with? some of the people are saying this is a it's little a whitewash and it's a little bit up, but coming bit of a cover up, but coming up, as prince harry loses his court case against the mail, we get insight from the get the royal insight from the former correspondent former bbc royal correspondent jennie bond. don't move

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six till 930. >> right then. now earlier today, prince harry lost his legal challenge in a libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. so this means the case must go to court. mail on sunday. so this means the case must go to court . the the case must go to court. the duke of sussex is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office that follows changes to his secured party arrangements. so the prince had said that a story he falsely suggested that he had lied and cynically tried to manipulate public opinion , to manipulate public opinion, and he wanted to get the mail on sunday's defence to those claims thrown out. but he was told no, that can't happen. joining me now to dissect this is royal commentator jennie now to dissect this is royal commentatorjennie bond. jenny commentator jennie bond. jenny wright. can you just tell us exactly what what what prince harry has lost here, really, and what's going on? well it's very complicated and it's part of a whole raft of legal cases he's bringing for against newspapers

to against the home office. >> this, as you say, was against the mail on sunday he didn't like what the paper had written and he and the mail on sunday said that it was honest opinion . said that it was honest opinion. the suggestion that harry had tried to keep secret his battle for legal for protection. now now, the judge today decided that that was a legitimate part of the mails , defence and of the mails, defence and therefore the defence can stay intact as the mail wants and it will go forward. it doesn't mean that harry has lost, but it has to be said that the judge did suggest that the defendants, the mail on sunday had of quite a strong case and had a prospect of being successful . but we have of being successful. but we have yet to see, as you say, there's other cases going on at the same time. and it's all terribly confusing. yeah no, indeed. >> so i'm just going to read a little bit more detail into this. so this, this, this libel case centres on an article that this is to according the judge

claimed the prince tried to quote, mislead and confuse the pubuc quote, mislead and confuse the public over a dispute with the government that that dispute relating to personal security and police protection , etcetera, and police protection, etcetera, etcetera. the headline said that the duke quotes tried to keep his legal fight with the government over police bodyguards secret , but that bodyguards a secret, but that his pr machine tried to put a positive spin on on the dispute. now, now, harry denies all of this. he denies that and he denies the suggestion that he only offered to pay for his security after starting legal proceedings in 2021. so he's lost this round. okay. do you think this is a sign of things to come for harry? do you think he'll regret spending all of this money going through the courts, taking on the press, taking home office? taking on the home office? >> well, he's already lost the battle that he should be allowed to pay for his police protection . an and that was part of an earlier case. and there is a judgement reserved on whether the whole way that his

protection was downgraded was treated. he feels that that was unfairly done and that the committee that makes those decisions ravec really singled him out and didn't treat him in the same way as other dignitaries and high profile people. for example, this just that a risk assessment wasn't carried out. one development tonight actually i've noticed, which is quite interesting, is that harry always suggests did that harry always suggests did that ravec that committee , he that ravec that committee, he treated him unfairly , partly treated him unfairly, partly because there were people from the royal household on that committee, which he hadn't been aware was going to be the case. one of those people was sir edward young, the late queen's private secretary. and tonight, a document has come to light which said that edward young had written to the cabinet secretary, sir mark sedwill , in secretary, sir mark sedwill, in which he quote , he was quoted as which he quote, he was quoted as saying that the queen the late queen, regarded keeping harry and meghan safe is of paramount

importance , and that that was importance, and that that was a view held by the queen and her family . and that goes against family. and that goes against really what harry has been implying throughout, that the protection was simply taken away from him and that he was treated unfairly by people at the palace. so the more these cases go on, the more to an extent some of his arguments seem to unravel a bit. >> i mean, there is a bit of a theme here with harry and meghan. i think , which is that meghan. i think, which is that claims can be put out there, allegations can be put out there, quotes and quotes there. truth can be put out there. and when you are seriously made to prove this stuff like you are in a court of law, for example , you a court of law, for example, you quite often that unravels . jenny quite often that unravels. jenny yes , it does. yes, it does. >> though you have to say that meghan's been quite successful in the legal action she's taken against newspapers and i'm not a legal person. i'm in no position to judge that. but i think that

there could be some sympathy for harry in this question of protection, because he can't undo the fact that he is a royal prince. he's born a prince, or that he obviously has a military service background and that he is a target. and indeed, that's what was being made a point. that point was being made by sir edward young in this letter. i'm referring to that he does clearly remain a target . and clearly remain a target. and that's what harry is saying throughout. i want to bring my children over here. i want them to know their heritage. i want them feel home in the uk. them to feel at home in the uk. and can't that unless and i can't do that unless i have protection. and he doesn't accept the home office's argument that that that protection done on an ad protection can be done on an ad hoc basis, case by case. yes. >> yeah. i mean, so . so the mail >> yeah. i mean, so. so the mail on sunday is using what's called the honest opinion defence, right. which gives protection to individuals or organisations from being held liable for defamation in cases where statements are made as opinions

rather than false statements of facts . and a trial is expected. facts. and a trial is expected. now to be held in 2024. so we're going to end up seeing quite a lot of harry or his representatives anyway, in and out of court. and it will be fascinating, won't it, to see how well he fares or otherwise. johnny, just just before i let you get going and obviously a gb news star is currently in the jungle rather annoyingly for me. he's in the jungle and on air. exactly the same time that i am, which is, i think, a cruel twist of fate. but nigel farage is now in the last five, and at the end of tonight, he could be in the last four. are you surprised by how well he's doing ? how well he's doing? >> i am, actually . how well he's doing? >> i am, actually. i have to say, tonight, i've just been watching it. he has been a right old bossy boots. i would not be at all surprised to see him get kicked out tonight because he's been really he's been quite obnoxious about the way he's forced himself into doing this latest trial. when jose wanted to do it quite clearly. so he's

upset quite a few people tonight . so really, the audience . . so really, the audience. >> right. well, that makes it more important. jenny, thank you.by more important. jenny, thank you. by the way, jennie bond there, course, royal there, of course, a royal commentator and author and broadcaster, everything extraordinaire. . extraordinaire. well done. right. sounds like right. well, it sounds like nigel might need your help then, doesn't it? if what is doesn't it? if what jenny is saying is true, you can vote for nigel. like , qr code, nigel. now, take like, qr code, scan on your phone . make scan it on your phone. make nigel king of the jungle. can i just say as well, a massive thank to everybody who thank you to everybody who is watching show not watching this show and not watching this show and not watching all that guff watching all of that guff that's over currently on itv. over there currently on itv. don't do it. this is better. but later on, in case you are intrigued to know what nigel does, we will be going down under adam cherry under with adam cherry to give you very, very , very snap you a very, very, very snap overview of what's been going on. so you're not going to miss out. right. stay here out. all right. stay here because this because next, former itv this morning presenter phillip schofield admitted unwise schofield admitted to an unwise but not illegal affair with a younger colleague earlier this yean younger colleague earlier this year, external investigation year, an external investigation has found that itv was has now found that itv was unable uncover relevant unable to uncover relevant evidence until schofield

admitted that himself . i'll be admitted that himself. i'll be joined by the mail's editor at large, charlotte griffiths , to large, charlotte griffiths, to dissect what this really means. could he now make a dramatic comeback to your radio, to your television screen? do you think that that report is a complete whitewash and it's not worth the paper it's written on? stay

well if you thought that philip schofield's career was over, you might be about to think again , might be about to think again, because he's reportedly set for a showbiz return in new a huge showbiz return in the new yeah a huge showbiz return in the new year. however he recently refused be probed by an refused to be probed by an external investigation into itv's toxicity due to concerns over his mental health. this comes after his unwise but not illegal, relationship saga. joining me now to pick through all of this is the mail on sunday's editor at large at charlotte griffiths. charlotte, thank you very, very much. right very two sides to this very much. two sides to this this a bloke who's the person

this is a bloke who's the person he was entangled with, has never complained, and his wife doesn't appear to have said anything either . um, appear to have said anything either. um, but then appear to have said anything either . um, but then the other either. um, but then the other side of this is, well, you know, actually , maybe this is actually, maybe this report is a whitewash . where you? what's whitewash. where are you? what's going on? >> i'm sort of on the >> yeah, i'm sort of on the whitewash side because they only asked to part asked 48 people to take part in this one person said this and only one person said they about the goings on they knew about the goings on between the runner and phil schofield . but i know at least schofield. but i know at least one person at the time myself, who was working there who knew all about it. everyone in the media knew about it. it was a really widely known thing. so why did nobody inquiry ? why did nobody in the inquiry? we kind of say that they knew about it. they must have done. they just must have done. >> i do wonder who they've spoken well. mean, you spoken to as well. i mean, you know, certain former know, there are certain former colleagues very vocal colleagues who were very vocal at the time saying that there was secret and that was an open secret here and that everybody it. i think everybody knew about it. i think that regardless is this now definitely does leave a door open for phillip schofield to come back. i mean, just off the

bafis come back. i mean, just off the basis of that report , you cannot basis of that report, you cannot ruin someone's professional life off the back of what that report says.i off the back of what that report says. i don't think so. >> yeah. i mean, the report says that, you know, junior people felt they couldn't speak up , but felt they couldn't speak up, but it kind of as you say, it whitewashes over him and it just makes him seem like he's basically innocent. and the history books will sort of say what was the big deal? this you know, this report said there was no there big so if no there was no big deal. so if he make a return to itv he wants to make a return to itv in the year, well, there's in the new year, well, there's nothing incriminating there. so why him back and why not bring him back on and make of itv team make him part of the itv team again? so i don't if that's again? so i don't know if that's what is all leading to, but what this is all leading to, but there reports, there are these reports, aren't there, be on there, that he's going to be on celebrity that he celebrity big brother, that he might £2 million to go might even get £2 million to go back onto itv's version of celebrity brother. so you celebrity big brother. so you know, but again, then know, but then again, then again, has been going through again, he has been going through again, he has been going through a very dark place and couldn't actually take part in the inquiry. so is he actually fit to return to our screens? it's very difficult to know. i think at this stage. yeah.

>> i mean, fundamentally, do you find quite hard to believe find it quite hard to believe that could find that they could only find supposedly this supposedly one person in this report claimed they had report who claimed that they had some knowledge about some kind of knowledge about what was going on? >> and the report >> yeah, and the report is contradictory because it says there's it there's a culture of silence. it does admit to a culture of silence, they short silence, but they stopped short of culture toxicity. of saying a culture of toxicity. but if you in a culture of but if you live in a culture of silence, you're afraid silence, it means you're afraid of something, which means there's toxicity . there's a culture of toxicity. see? so. so the report actually sort of admits, you know, people seem to be afraid to speak up about and that's i about this. and that's what i think the root cause of this. think is the root cause of this. and know that was the root and i know that was the root cause time everyone was cause at the time everyone was talking they talking about it, but they didn't dare speak because didn't dare speak up because phil, the big phil, of course, was the big boss. subsequently said, boss. and he subsequently said, you it was actually true. you know, it was actually true. and about and i lied about it. >> the irony here is that potentially if he kept his potentially if he had kept his mouth shut and not admitted anything and then we get this report off the back of it, i mean, he could still be on this morning . morning. >> yeah, he may have sailed through, but i think a lot of the reason why did the full through, but i think a lot of the rculpa why did the full through, but i think a lot of the rculpa and did the full through, but i think a lot of the rculpa and he'ind the full through, but i think a lot of the rculpa and he's been; full mea culpa and he's been incredibly to itv is to incredibly loyal to itv is to keep that door slightly open in

the one there the hope that one day there might celebrity brother might be a celebrity big brother or of way of creeping or some sort of way of creeping back even perhaps his back through or even perhaps his loyalty is somehow been rewarded because really because they haven't gone really nitty dug nitty gritty here and really dug deep report because deep on that report because they've only asked 48 people. there were 70 people working every this on this every day on this on this morning. haven't even morning. so they haven't even asked right of people asked the right amount of people . and i don't know if they've asked holly, for example . but, asked holly, for example. but, you know. >> okay. so go on. so what are your big questions for this report then? because i don't know if maybe we'll ever get to the very bottom of this, but what would your big questions for the people who conducted and wrote this report be? >> it would be who did ask? >> it would be who did you ask? because they've said there's a culture silence among culture of silence among the juniors and like juniors and it seems like they've asked quite lot of they've asked quite a lot of junior because they junior people because they haven't to haven't been brave enough to admit probably knew. admit what they probably knew. so i'd say, who did you ask? you know, could you really not have asked the runner or phil, you know, i appreciate he's in a dark place , but might there be dark place, but might there be a way of delicately me finding a

way of delicately me finding a way to speak to him about it? he needs to be part the report, needs to be part of the report, doesn't needs to part doesn't he? he needs to be part of because the of the inquiry because he's the central it as is the central figure in it as is the runner the court public runner in the court of public opinion, though. runner in the court of public oplii on, though. runner in the court of public oplii mean, ugh. runner in the court of public oplii mean, this massive at >> i mean, this was massive at the time. it was front page news. it was everywhere. it was huge. in the court of public huge. and in the court of public opinion, do you think there's a way there? because way back for him there? because it's well, he it's one thing saying, well, he would to be would be able to be professionally resurrect , acted. professionally resurrect, acted. so, know, itv or any tv or so, you know, itv or any tv or radio company or whatever would would be okay to platform this guy. it's another thing the pubuc guy. it's another thing the public deciding that they would want that. how do you feel? is he damaged? >> i think he a little bit. >> i think he is a little bit. and i think it's interesting that he did do a show like that if he did do a show like big brother, where the public votes, yes, might he's votes, yes, he might find he's voted quickly. i voted off pretty quickly. i mean, do a sort of mean, maybe he'll do a sort of sob beginning. do sob story at the beginning. do a bit a mea culpa. but i think bit of a mea culpa. but i think the kind program where there the kind of program where there is voting might be quite helpful because it would of test because it would kind of test the for itv about whether the water for itv about whether this popular or this guy is actually popular or not. he wasn't, was not. at the time, he wasn't, was he? mean, holly willoughby he? i mean, holly willoughby damaged you damaged by this as well, do you

think association, i mean, in think by association, i mean, in the opinion, she the court of public opinion, she was association at the court of public opinion, she wastime association at the court of public opinion, she wastime . association at the court of public opinion, she wastime . do association at the court of public opinion, she wastime . do youassociation at the court of public opinion, she wastime . do you remember at the court of public opinion, she wastime . do you remember when the time. do you remember when it was all kicking off? people sort were looking at her sort of were looking over at her a bit suspiciously, she's a bit suspiciously, but she's been she's going been very i mean, she's going through problems. been very i mean, she's going thr(yeah, problems. been very i mean, she's going thr(yeah, yeah,lems. been very i mean, she's going thr(yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> was always very >> but she was always very careful the wasn't she, careful at the time, wasn't she, to well back. and she, to just keep well back. and she, she a very good strategic she played a very good strategic game at the time. >> good management, suppose . >> good management, i suppose. yeah. good management. look, charlotte, you. great charlotte, thank you. great stuff always an absolute stuff that. always an absolute pleasure in the pleasure to have you in the studio. that's charlotte griffiths there editor at large at on sunday. now at the mail on sunday. now coming up, germany has has shock, horror. this has tightened up its borders and seen a massive reduction in illegal immigration. is this proof that border controls do work? i be joined for work? i will be joined for another by stella lee kuan another clash by stella lee kuan yew and david maddox . that will yew and david maddox. that will kick right off. but coming up, we latest as well we will have the latest as well from under , will nigel from down under, will nigel clinch, the crown this weekend. i'll all of that coming i'll have all of that coming your way and much, much more, as well tomorrow's pages . well as tomorrow's front pages. >> feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as sponsors of

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thinks it's okay to break the law for the sake of the environment. i now consider it the ethic responsible thing to do , but now he's been sacked for do, but now he's been sacked for his political views by a bird charity and things went from bad to worse for rishi sunak well, he got locked out of his own house alongside the dutch pm. there he goes . yeah, he's just there he goes. yeah, he's just outside the front door of downing street. there can you? letters back in will fill for time. we'll try not to make it too awkward. there he is. it's only two world leaders. both of them not for that them potentially not for that much the doors open. much longer. oh, the doors open. there go. possibly sign of there we go. possibly a sign of things i think. now things to come, i think. now germany managed slash the germany has managed to slash the number immigrants number of illegal immigrants by doing unbelievably doing something unbelievably radical. a tougher border radical. have a tougher border controls and ditching open borders. has anyone thought of this? has anyone thought of doing this? we debate that very, very shortly on my panel. i've got emma woolf. i've got john sergeant and tanya buxton . this

sergeant and tanya buxton. this is patrick christys. tonight happy friday, everybody . happy friday, everybody. email me now gb views gbnews.com does germany prove that open borders is absolutely. don't work? i will see you after the headunes. work? i will see you after the headlines . thank you patrick. headlines. thank you patrick. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. downing street has rejected claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda scheme. that's after it emerged the asylum plan has reached £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year. rishi sunak, who's facing division within his party over the policy . he who's facing division within his party over the policy. he is hoping to rush emergency legislation through parliament

with the first vote on tuesday . with the first vote on tuesday. the us has blocked calls for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. a united nations security council resolution to demand a ceasefire in gaza failed because it was vetoed by the us . there were vetoed by the us. there were 1313 votes in favour of demanding an immediate ceasefire and one abstention by the uk . and one abstention by the uk. the us is the only nation to vote against. a man has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 20 years for stabbing two police officers in central london in great windmill street . london in great windmill street. >> stay where you are . get back. >> stay where you are. get back. >> stay where you are. get back. >> the man has now released body cam footage of the attack . cam footage of the attack. mohammad rahman stabbed pc joseph gerard in the neck and chest and pc alana mulhall in the arm after a police pursuit in september last year. the 25 year old was convicted of attempted murder and grievous bodily harm . a teenager has been bodily harm. a teenager has been arrested on suspicion of murdering a woman who was shot

deadin murdering a woman who was shot dead in east london. 42 year old leanne gordon was killed in hackney on tuesday evening. she was one of three people found with gunshot wounds. a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy were taken to hospital while a gender reform ruling has been described as a dark day for devolution by scotland's first minister. scotland's highest civil court found the government acted lawfully by blocking the controversial bill. the legislation , which makes it legislation, which makes it easier for people to change their legally recognised sex, received cross—party support in holyrood. humza yousaf says the judgement confirms that devolution is fundamentally flawed and a funeral for the pogues frontman shane macgowan has been held in ireland . has been held in ireland. dillian whyte depher was singing in galway bay and the bells will ring out for christmas day .

ring out for christmas day. paying tribute to the singer, the bands hit christmas track fairytale of new york was sung dunng fairytale of new york was sung during the service. family, friends , politicians and friends, politicians and celebrities filled saint mary of the rosary church in county tipperary. hollywood a—lister johnny depp was among those delivering a reading and giving a eulogy. his sister siobhan said shane macgowan lit a fire that burns in ireland and across the world, and his widow , the world, and his widow, victoria, mary clarke, praised the singer for it. >> really did live so close to the edge that he he seemed like he was going to fall off many times. i mean, we've had me and siobhan and all the family we've kind of lived in terror, haven't we, for a very long time. but on the plus side , i think the that the plus side, i think the that exploration . led to a kind of exploration. led to a kind of creative liberty which may not have been possible without the use of all these substances . use of all these substances. >> this is gb news across the uk

on tv , in your car, on your on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news and now it's back to . patrick and now it's back to. patrick >> if you think the national anthem of this country is offensive, then there is an easy solution. you can leave students at bristol university apparently find the national anthem. so offensive that the uni has cancelled it from their graduation ceremonies. given that bristol university students have a reputation as being upper middle , hooray henrys who middle class, hooray henrys who don't really manage to get into oxbridge , they are probably just oxbridge, they are probably just doing it annoy their parents. doing it to annoy their parents. as of the comments from as some of the comments from the students the students are ridiculous. the monarchy really relevant monarchy isn't really relevant to my generation, so it wouldn't be missed. i mean, what is relevant to your generation ? relevant to your generation? whinging, moaning, taking drugs, and carrying about the and carrying on about the housing ? another one housing crisis? another one said, it's a bit old fashioned to have it played at a ceremony, supposed be celebrating supposed to be celebrating the achiever the individual achiever of the individual student . i think there's

student. i think there's something up a bit, doesn't it really do away with all tradition? it's not relevant to me. we've all moved on. it's symptomatic academia's symptomatic of academia's attempt tear down society and attempt to tear down society and the it's been infected the fact that it's been infected with woke radical wing with woke radical left wing ideology i'm convinced ideology that i'm convinced poses monumental threat to the poses a monumental threat to the fabnc poses a monumental threat to the fabric of everything that we hold dear. bristol is the same university where a university professor recently appeared to call for somebody to blow up a venue full of jewish people. research has shown that many students across the country are being trigger warnings for being given trigger warnings for upsetting material . and we're upsetting material. and we're being taught about white privilege and a new moralism that reeks of hypocrisy. i'm convinced that most university lecturers simply couldn't get a proper job lecturers simply couldn't get a properjob anywhere lecturers simply couldn't get a proper job anywhere else. lecturers simply couldn't get a properjob anywhere else. they moan about society, but they're very often completely useless members of it. with overly inflated egos. this is a huge part of the reason why we're churning out a generation of useless, entitled individuals that would have our greatest generation, not just turning in their graves, but also wondering

what earth they all fought what on earth they all fought and sacrificed everything for. but it also shows how a small group of radicals can negatively impact the rest of us at the university of warwick. thousands of students have reportedly been forced to go vegan because a hard group of just a few hard core group of just a few hundred managed to win hundred students managed to win a make the uni go meat a vote to make the uni go meat free. i mean , it does also tell free. i mean, it does also tell you how lazy the other students were. to fair, to not out were. to be fair, to not go out and vote for it. but this is symptomatic of society as a whole, where fringe radicals with do, with nothing better to do, managed to infiltrate organisations local councils organisations and local councils and force their views on everybody else . is it any wonder everybody else. is it any wonder we have a mental health crisis amongst young people when they're being brought up to believe everything is bad? believe that everything is bad? our is rubbish. the our history is rubbish. the national is offensive national anthem is offensive and we tear everything down. we have to tear everything down. i'd miserable too, if i'd be miserable too, if i believed that stuff. our national is not national anthem is not offensive, and if you think it is, then maybe you're choosing to live in the wrong country . to live in the wrong country. sorry, but we're going to pivot a little bit on all of this and going to respond but

going to respond to that. but also an interesting story about chris i'm again chris packham. i'm joined again by former bbc chief political correspondent sergeant, by former bbc chief political correspandznt sergeant, by former bbc chief political correspand broadcasterjeant, by former bbc chief political correspand broadcaster to nt, by former bbc chief political correspand broadcaster to emma author and broadcaster to emma woolf and author and activist , woolf and author and activist, and tonia buxton i am going to kick off with chris packham actually and talk about this guy because he was well , he's become because he was well, he's become increasingly outspoken when it comes to the environment, when it comes to all of that kind of stuff. and he's recently, in case you've missed this, been sacked by a bird charity for his political views . so tonya, your political views. so tonya, your your take on this is that too far, do you think? >> no , he was he was caught >> no, he was he was caught causing a divide in the charity. the charity which is looking after birds, was losing members . after birds, was losing members. and so they of course, they had to get rid of him because he was he. and one of the things they said is that they hardly spoken to him all year. hasn't done to him all year. he hasn't done anything for charity. so why anything for the charity. so why should him? should they bother keeping him? what's the point of it? and also, very also, his views are very divisive. you know, if you if you dealing with the you are dealing with the protection of birds, you a protection of birds, you know, a

lot views on climate lot of his views on climate change are very divisive. change change are very divisive. you agree and you might not agree with it. and also, charity in the also, this charity is in the country. really agree country. he doesn't really agree with living. these with country living. so these people make a people are trying to make a living themselves. living for themselves. he's putting living for themselves. he's puting seem me to be a bit >> i just seem to me to be a bit of a step too far for him to essentially come to the conclusion that it is a ethical thing to break the law. if you're doing that in a way that promotes climate activism . promotes climate activism. >> um, yeah, i agree. and i think everything that tonya says >> um, yeah, i agree. and i th absolutelying that tonya says >> um, yeah, i agree. and i th absolutely spot1at tonya says >> um, yeah, i agree. and i th absolutely spot on. tonya says >> um, yeah, i agree. and i th absolutely spot on. |»nya says >> um, yeah, i agree. and i th absolutely spot on. i don'tays is absolutely spot on. i don't think if you want to mouth off about change, you about climate change, if you want really quite want to support really quite controversial movements such as just as just stop oil, such as extinction rebellion if you want to people to break the law, to tell people to break the law, to tell people to break the law, to go out break the law to go out and break the law more, i think you have to more, then i think you have to take that's take the consequences. that's not can't do it. you not to say you can't do it. you can. but then you have to take the consequences. you can't have it needs choose and it all. he needs to choose and actually, other which actually, the other point, which is hasn't really done is that he hasn't really done much this charity. it's much for this charity. it's called rescue. many called raptor rescue. and many of the members were very uncomfortable with his political stance. they've done stance. so i think they've done the thing. the right thing. >> people carol >> so people like carol vorderman recently have in vorderman recently have got in trouble groups for

trouble with certain groups for their particular views. they're saying, you know, if saying, well, look, you know, if you to have these you are going to have these views, are views, that's fine. but you are representing our charity as well, and we don't particularly want that . there's another guy want that. there's another guy called guz khan, who's actually not been cancelled by have i got news for you? because he's going to be hosting that and he has said incredibly fruity said some incredibly fruity stuff about israel—palestine stuff about the israel—palestine situation there that got him, i believe cancelled from i think it was an uber eats advert. john, do you think that people maybe get a bit above their station when it comes to pumping out political stuff when maybe they should just be focusing on things like , i agree. things like, i agree. >> i think marlon brando once said, he said more more this said, he said more and more this is years ago. more and more actors their opinions actors are giving their opinions on matters . and on political matters. and he said, strange. but it's said, that's strange. but it's even strange they're even strange that they're answering questions , as answering these questions, as you for him, was you know. so for him, he was a top actor, one best top actor, one of the best actors of the 20th century. and for him , this crazy he for him, this was crazy that he should be asked his views. and it's also pretty crazy for someone who's presenting an actual history programme like

springwatch brilliant programme. autumnwatch and so on, where it's very much to do with look, this is the reality. this is how these animals , how they've got these animals, how they've got to behave, how they do behave. and for him then suddenly to say , but this gives me the right to use this platform, which is a very much an expert platform, but suddenly he i'm going to talk to you about politics and i'm going to be right. and you've got follow i say. you've got to follow what i say. it's of cracked, really. you've got to follow what i say. it's completelyked, really. you've got to follow what i say. it's completely inappropriate. and it does mean, as you say , and it does mean, as you say, that they they feed on their own feeding i be important feeding. i must be important because television all because i'm on television all the doesn't follow at the time. it doesn't follow at all. no >> found out to my peril, >> as i found out to my peril, of course. but look, chris packham will say that he wasn't overtly to break overtly telling anybody to break the law and that, you know, this was he was just saying he thought was it was ethical. thought it was it was ethical. i suppose what he might also say, tanya, that, you know, his tanya, is that, you know, in his job, in capacity as somebody job, in his capacity as somebody who nature programmes, who presents nature programmes, if see nature his if he can see nature in his view, damaged view, being irreversibly damaged by a manmade climate crisis, his

views then then he should be speaking out . what do you what speaking out. what do you what do you think about that? well, i understand where he's coming from to a certain extent, if he believes that. >> but he never gets into any real conversations about the climate that climate with scientists that have view. he just have a different view. he just shouts them down. that's what i've i've never i've seen of him. i've never seen sit down and seen him actually sit down and have and have those conversations and he's watch and he's it's country watch and there's people there's a lot of country people that off the land and have that live off the land and have to do certain things to land to do certain things to the land to do certain things to the land to their livelihood. to get their livelihood. he doesn't poverty. he's doesn't care about poverty. he's he's he's kind of gone way too far. the other side, you know, humans the animals humans first, then the animals and that's how life should be. you put animals before you don't put animals before humans and he an opposing humans and he he has an opposing view to that. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> what's your go? to me the absolute sort of pinnacle of this is the gary lineker syndrome, where whereby a man who is taking well well over £1 million a year from the bbc in a very, very comfortable salary, thank you very much feels that we all need to know his political views and i think he strays. i that you sign strays. i think that you sign up

to and you you know, to that and then you you know, you you don't use your very public, very platform . public, very public platform. >> i'm this is true in most in most jobs, isn't it? i mean, most jobs, isn't it? i mean, most people when you go to work, you don't think you have to take you don't think and i think what i'll and actually i think what i'll do is i'll take ten minutes off and and pray it up and down and go and pray it up and down shouting you think shouting my views. you think actually, don't think my actually, i don't think my bosses this. i worry bosses will like this. i worry that changing just that that's changing to just do with to do with broadcasting. it's to do with broadcasting. it's to do with jobs. i'm with ordinary, normal jobs. i'm a . a lorry driver. >> does that mean i can stop a very public person like lineker? >> you know? but i mean, this idea we've got idea that somehow we've all got a because freedom of a right because of freedom of speech whatever we speech to shout whatever we think, only of day, think, but only at end of day, whenever know , whenever whenever we, you know, whenever we bbc that gets we feel like the bbc that gets away with lot of this. away with a lot of this. >> let's be honest, isn't it only views is only certain views as well is this is thing, tony, because this is the thing, tony, because you have an opinion. >> was a channel 4 piece >> if i was a channel 4 piece that he did, was it was that he did, it was it was a channel 4. >> channel 4 piece he did on whether was actually whether or not he was actually i watched it carefully and i thought he was being extremely careful think we careful not saying i think we all ought off and take action. >> i mean, he wasn't saying i

mean, headbutted butted the line. >> and he i mean, he was sailing as could, but he as close as he could, but he wasn't actually expressing his own which is obviously, if own view, which is obviously, if you take part in these marches, you take part in these marches, you just want oil to be stopped. i mean, that's it. well you must believe that. otherwise, why i mean, that's it. well you must beliewhy1at. otherwise, why i mean, that's it. well you must beliewhy take )therwise, why i mean, that's it. well you must beliewhy take part wise, why i mean, that's it. well you must beliewhy take part in;e, why i mean, that's it. well you must beliewhy take part in those/ take why take part in those marches? yeah, exactly. take why take part in those ma buts? yeah, exactly. take why take part in those ma but buteah, exactly. take why take part in those ma but but let'saxactly. take why take part in those ma but but let's just:ly. take why take part in those ma but but let's just say, tony, >> but but let's just say, tony, that the polar opposite that he'd had the polar opposite view, just that view, right? let's just say that he was he thought that out there was a bit a climate con going on or bit of a climate con going on or that like ulez were just that things like ulez were just a grabbing grift a money grabbing grift for the mayor and etcetera . mayor of london and etcetera. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he'd be out or. yeah. or he decided relentlessly drape decided to relentlessly drape himself flag as himself in the israel flag as opposed doing very opposed to someone doing very similar things with palestine or he he voted for he openly said he voted for brexit. gist i'm brexit. you get the gist i'm going wanted would he going for he wanted he would he wanted to be labelled as right wanted to be labelled as a right winger, racist . winger, as a xenophobe, racist. >> and he wouldn't want he wouldn't a job. be wouldn't have a job. he'd be out. would you don't out. that would be it. you don't get one side. get to one side. >> you have to go loud and the other with they want. other with what they want. >> go with what they >> you either go with what they want and then get away want and then you get away with murder, or murder, literal murder, or you're out. that's just. that's the know. to my own the way it is. i know. to my own

peril because spoke so peril because i spoke out so badly, the badly, so much about the lockdowns. you i'm not lockdowns. you know, i'm not working on terrestrial television the television anymore on the mainstream channels because they didn't calling didn't like that i was calling them loss is our gain. >> so fantastic stuff, right? look another flyer here. look off to another flyer here. we're our worth we're getting our money's worth out you lot tonight. coming out of you lot tonight. coming up, germany tightened up its up, germany has tightened up its borders, seen a massive reduction its immigration, reduction in its immigration, illegal immigration as a result. now, is this proof that border controls work? we are going to be having a big debate on this with stella, who former labour party adviser, and david maddox of the express is going to of the express that is going to kick right off. and i bring back tonight's panel top pundits tonight's panel of top pundits tonight's panel of top pundits to through first of to run through the first of tomorrow's front pages. it'll be the entertaining paper of the most entertaining paper of you. you get on british telly and the front and we'll give you the front pages before anyone what's and we'll give you the front pagto before anyone what's and we'll give you the front pagto .efore anyone what's

every weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. debate time now because germany could be leading the way to solve the migration crisis despite many people believing they caused the flipping thing in the first place. illegal migration to germany dropped dramatically last after berlin last month after berlin introduced tougher controls at the borders and stats showed that there were around 4353 unauthorised entries into the country over its land borders in november. that is still a lot, isn't it, compared to 18,500 pretty much in the previous month . so look, should we follow

month. so look, should we follow their example? does this prove that open borders have essentially ruined europe and that now we need to have tougher border controls joining . me to border controls joining. me to debate this is stella chennai six and david maddox . both of six and david maddox. both of you, thank you very, very much . you, thank you very, very much. david, i'll start with you on this. do you think that this proves that open borders are a complete disaster? we should never have had any of them in the place across europe. never have had any of them in the do place across europe. never have had any of them in the do youe across europe. never have had any of them in the do you think? s europe. what do you think? >> , yes, open borders are a >> well, yes, open borders are a complete disaster. and of course, we can you know, in some ways give the germans a backhanded thanks for their open borders in 2016, because that's certainly helped push for brexit vote over the line. i think. i mean , we all remember the mean, we all remember the consequences of those open borders in the european union. vote still has a big problem with carl heneghan and all the rest of it. i'm not convinced, frankly, that the border controls in germany is really what's doing it. the german economy is tanking at the moment, and i suspect that more

people want to come and work in britain because actually, despite all the miserable talk, we're doing a bit better. >> interesting if germany has rendered itself so undesirable to illegal migrants that that's the reason why they're doing it. i novel approach, i mean, it's a novel approach, but maybe could take leaf but maybe we could take a leaf out of their book as well. stella, love open borders, stella, you love open borders, don't i look, come stella, you love open borders, donis i look, come stella, you love open borders, donis this i look, come stella, you love open borders, donis this not look, come stella, you love open borders, donis this not proof.ook, come stella, you love open borders, donis this not proof ,ok, come stella, you love open borders, donis this not proof , stella? e on. is this not proof, stella? a 40% reduction in illegal migration in just a month because they've actually decided to police the border. stella you don't have bob and borders. >> there is no country that has open borders . the uk doesn't open borders. the uk doesn't have open borders. no the uk, the europe, europe doesn't have open borders. yes, you have. you have freedom of movement. sure. it's not the same thing. you're talking about illegal immigration. it is illegal immigration. if it is illegal immigration, they would immigration, then they would not be through the border be passing through the border the way anyway. so you're the proper way anyway. so you're talking about two different things here. >> okay. but i mean, no , i >> okay. but i mean, no, i disagree fundamentally , people disagree fundamentally, people people could just wander around . people could just wander around. you know, they don't have to open when you're in the eu .

open when you're in the eu. >> so the uk no longer is in the eu. so technically you shouldn't have open borders. never mind the fact that because of the completely inept conservative government that we are suffering unden government that we are suffering under, you have all of these illegal immigrants coming here never mind that. >> how have they got here? stella? they've wandered through a continent which just strongly implied that there aren't that many for illegal many checks for illegal immigrants anywhere on that continent. are. continent. no, there are. >> checks. you are >> there are checks. you are quite are quite right. they are inadequate. do think there inadequate. and i do think there is something to what david is saying. know whether saying. we do not know whether it fact, it. germany's it is in fact, it. germany's very good border policies right now that that mean that less illegal immigrants are crossing through. that is a problem. and i european governments i do agree. european governments do need to take responsibility for their illegal immigrants going borders. going through their borders. i agree david. agree with david. >> look , one of the reasons >> now, look, one of the reasons why german government why the german government decided do this is because decided to do this is because there's a lot of pressure from there's a lot of pressure from the right wing afd. and i just wonder there's a lesson in wonder if there's a lesson in this. know, people keeping this. you know, people keeping the government this. you know, people keeping

the that government this. you know, people keeping the that threat government this. you know, people keeping the that threat likernment this. you know, people keeping the that threat like the ent and that real threat like the tories are seeing now from reform actually enacts the kind of policies that many people reform actually enacts the kind of po|are s that many people reform actually enacts the kind of po|are common|ny people reform actually enacts the kind of po|are common sense)ple reform actually enacts the kind of po|are common sense .)le think are common sense. >> i think the german government must be absolutely terrified because they've just seen what's happenedin because they've just seen what's happened in the netherlands. we've with the election there and the right wing winning vera baird , it's all down to illegal baird, it's all down to illegal immigration. ian and you know, the concerns that normal european citizens just like normal british citizens have about it. i think, though , about it. i think, though, frankly, you know, they policing their borders better, but it could probably thank hungary and italy more for stopping the flow because those two countries, especially hungary over the years, but italy now are actually trying to stop people coming in. they're taking their responsibilities as being the kind of fortress wall of europe . kind of fortress wall of europe. but it's you know, it's crazy. we all know, you know , when we we all know, you know, when we go over to the european union,

when we manage to get over there and we're driving around , there and we're driving around, there is no stop. you know , drive is no stop. you know, drive between france and belgium and germany. nobody's going to stop me. and, you know , and that's me. and, you know, and that's fine for a tourist. but we've seen this with terrorist attacks. we've seen terrorists from belgium come down to paris and, you know, it is a big, big problem. and really , europe's problem. and really, europe's got to get its act together. >> stella, do you feel as though maybe you were slightly on the wrong side of history here, having, movement having, you know, free movement of borders was of people and open borders was a nice romantic it's nice romantic idea, but it's being and being systematically abused. and now are shutting it down. now people are shutting it down. >> wait a minute. wait a >> but wait a minute. wait a second. i thought that the conservative government, i thought that conservative politicians in politicians who have been in power the last more than a power for the last more than a decade, i thought they were trying illegal trying to reduce illegal immigration. an immigration has been . so why it me been increasing. so why is it me who is pro—immigration on the wrong side of history when the tories can you explain to the public? can someone explain one

responsible conservative politician explain? why has it been their policy for more than for more than a decade to reduce immigration? and yet immigration is at a record high level? clearly, clearly , this is not a clearly, clearly, this is not a left wing policy that anyone has advocated. they weren't in power to begin with. >> i suppose the argument against that may well be that at least the conservatives, although i think they well, although i think they were well, they lying or they were either lying or incredibly were incredibly stupid or both were at to it. at least claiming to bring it. >> you that words not mine. >> i did say it and i'll say it every single day pretty much now. but. maybe now. but but, but. whereas maybe some the other side some people on the other side were just dogmatically saying that a that mass immigration is a good thing. stella's thing. david stella's on to something isn't something there, though, isn't she? you know, this victory now for we're going for james cleverly we're going to legal migration by to reduce legal migration by 300,000. it's still going to be more than a city the size of coventry every single year, isn't it? maybe we need to be focusing more on the legal side as well. >> em- >> you know, i like james cleverly a lot . he's really cleverly a lot. he's a really nice he's just been in the nice guy. he's just been in the job for a few weeks. but this

isn't james cleverly's victory . isn't james cleverly's victory. this is a policy that's been around for at least two years. priti patel was trying to push it suella braverman tried to pushit it suella braverman tried to push it six times and was stopped by the treasury, stopped by other ministers. stopped by the treasury, stopped by other ministers . and, you by other ministers. and, you know, it's absolutely right. the conservative government has failed on this and this is one of the reasons i think we're going to get a drubbing at the next election. they could have going to get a drubbing at the next yaaction. they could have going to get a drubbing at the next ya loton. they could have going to get a drubbing at the next ya lot betterey could have going to get a drubbing at the next ya lot better to :ould have going to get a drubbing at the next ya lot better to controlive going to get a drubbing at the next ya lot better to control our done a lot better to control our borders, and illegal, borders, both legal and illegal, and they haven't done it. >> was the european >> stella was the european union and states wrong to and its member states wrong to allow and millions and allow millions and millions and millions of undocumented people to wander in? >> no . and you know what, >> no. and you know what, patrick? my heart breaks for james cleverly for being so new to politics after 13 years of conservative government as if this is his first front bench position. >> i think they were wrong. >> i think they were wrong. >> don't think you know, i was wrong. >> they were wrong. >> they were wrong. >> of uk the >> millions of the uk left the uk left the eu . uk left the eu. >> and yet you have record record numbers of immigration and you know, what's the problem, patrick, that a lot of

the people who are so frustrated with the immigration numbers right now, they would much prefer they had immigrants prefer it if they had immigrants from european countries who they feel this is not my position, by the way, but they feel european immigrants are culturally in terms culture and religion. terms of culture and religion. they are closer to the british people. would have people. they would have preferred have more preferred to have more immigrants from eu and now immigrants from the eu and now now are forced have now they are forced to have immigrants over the immigrants from all over the world, from countries with different cultures and religions, and have even religions, and they have even more to complain about. more things to complain about. well, then immigration well, then the immigration problem, is it? yeah. >> no, no. exactly. then problem, is it? yeah. >> iraises exactly. then problem, is it? yeah. >> iraises exaintegration|en that raises the integration argument. the cultural argument, et do have many et cetera. that we do have many times on this show, electric stuff. both of you. i loved it enough. stella you. enough. stella thank you. they're of they're lovely stuff, both of you. you. i'll see you you. thank you. i'll see you again very soon. stella. john zucchini there. david maddox. a second clash on a stellar edition it. coming edition of it. coming up. i'll be legendary be joined by legendary broadcaster and journalist michael go through michael crick to go through tomorrow's headlines. hot off the press. but next, i bring back tonight's panel of pundits to give you the very first look

at a couple of those front pages. what's inside the book and it will be the most exciting review review anywhere on review paper review anywhere on british this going review paper review anywhere on bri inh this going review paper review anywhere on bri in my this going review paper review anywhere on bri in my hair this going review paper review anywhere on bri in my hair now? this going review paper review anywhere on bri in my hair now? oh,y going review paper review anywhere on bri in my hair now? oh, yeah.] on in my hair now? oh, yeah. we'll going australia as we'll be going to australia as well. latest on nigel well. for the latest on nigel down in a bit

the earlier on gb news radio . the earlier on gb news radio. now we can cross live to gb news reporter adam cherry , who is reporter adam cherry, who is down under for us with the very latest on nigel farage in the i'm a celebrity jungle has nigel made it through ? made it through? >> yes. patrick, big news. he's through to the final four. >> marvin in the last couple of minutes has been eliminated. >> so the vote remain campaign continue into the semi final . continue into the semi final. >> so remember to every day the vote reset . vote reset. >> so if we want to see nigel into the final and be crowned king of the jungle, you've got to scan the qr code. you have to keep voting every single day. >> far working a treat .

>> so far it's working a treat. >> so far it's working a treat. >> now, for what we saw >> now, as for what we saw today, it was a packed episode, actually, but i think the moment, which is we'll get the most attention for sure, is when nigel met his daughter, izzy . nigel met his daughter, izzy. >> so all the campmates met one member of their of their family or their friends. >> today, it's quite a new moment for the show. haven't seen each in a month. and seen each other in a month. and i think we've clip of this i think we've got a clip of this , patrick. going to , patrick. so we're going to take this. this is take a look at this. this is izzy. it's the right arade dam. >> i'm just going to i'm just going there because going to stop you there because we're play that clip we're going to play that clip just little later. just a little bit later. just a little bit later on. but how has just a little bit later. just a litbeent later on. but how has just a little bit later. just a litbeen going on. but how has just a little bit later. just a litbeen going for. but how has just a little bit later. just a litbeen going for nigel?yw has just a little bit later. just a litbeen going for nigel? i/ has just a little bit later. just a litbeen going for nigel? i heard it been going for nigel? i heard a little of a rumour earlier a little bit of a rumour earlier on obviously don't on because obviously i don't watch right? i'm here watch this tosh right? i'm here working a proper show. all working on a proper show. all right. news right. real, real genuine news and entertainment. that and entertainment. not that nonsense you're seeing down nonsense that you're seeing down under , a little under now, but a little birdie did tell me that nigel, was did tell me that nigel, he was he got into a bit of a kind of rowdy. he a bit about doing a challenge or something. was he a bit grumpy or. not >> nigel a bit grumpy. bit grumpy or. not >> nigel a bit grumpy . oh, i >> nigel a bit grumpy. oh, i can't imagine it.

>> so he has been a little , a >> so he has been a little, a little bit agitated in the last couple of days. >> there was this whole controversy over some burnt rice with sam , who was responsible with sam, who was responsible for it . what actually happened? for it. what actually happened? why was the rice left unattended? they made up for it tonight. they cooked goat leg and everyone was happy . of and everyone was happy. of course, nigel also is in the challenge tonight . right? and he challenge tonight. right? and he got full five stars with marvin. unfortunately marvin was rewarded by being booted out of the camp. but nonetheless, nigel remains. the or remains. and tonight it's the or excuse me. tomorrow night, it's the cyclone challenge. so nigel is going to get absolutely battered by hurricane strength, wind and wave. so definitely not one to miss. patrick, i know you don't normally watch it, but you might stick for might want to stick around for this one. might want to stick around for thisnow . okay. so, adam, thank >> now. okay. so, adam, thank you very much. mike adam, jerry, there . and that is the other there. and that is the other side of our studio . there we go. side of our studio. there we go. right. so i'm just going to bnng right. so i'm just going to bring my in now. sonja and bring my panel in now. sonja and emma, before we get stuck into the papers. tanya, i'll tell you

what. you know, the likes of the daily mirror and of those daily mirror and some of those those those rent a gobs at those those those rent a gobs at the guardian trot out every now and again. say, nigel must be cancelled. blood cancelled. itv will have blood on hands if nigel does. on their hands if nigel does. well i mean, look, nigel is well i mean, but look, nigel is a lovely, reasonable man and. >> and i love the fact that he got goat. you know, i think i've given him my greek lamb recipe that he can use there. i'm not sure if he has or not, but, you know, desperate know, they're desperate to get him he's him out. but actually, he's proving be a really proving himself to be a really good everyone's coming out good guy. everyone's coming out because brainwashed. good guy. everyone's coming out because the brainwashed. good guy. everyone's coming out because the braiof'ashed. good guy. everyone's coming out because the braiof people okay even the kind of people that coming out going, oh, that are coming out going, oh, you know, even with you know, got on even with nigel, why wouldn't you get on with you? with nigel? why wouldn't you? >> i can see you >> and now i can see why you were me a bit there. were looking at me a bit there. emma i'm going to come to you in a because i'll tell you a second because i'll tell you what, through the what, i'll whizz you through the front it'll be front pages now and it'll be obvious one we're going to obvious which one we're going to focus bring focus on. so let's just bring you tomorrow's tonight. you tomorrow's news tonight. now, most understanding paper of you anywhere telly. not you anywhere on telly. it's not hard though, is it? because the others for others are rubbish. we go for the daily express first, get me out brits out of here. 5 million brits xmas pretty xmas getaway day. pretty self—explanatory. really they determined escape cost

determined to escape the cost of living million brits living gloom. 5 million brits christmas for them. christmas abroad. good for them. >> them, though. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the them, though. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye them, though. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye of them, though. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye of the am, though. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye of the eye. hough. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye of the eye. angry. christmas abroad. good for them. >> the eye of the eye. angry mps plotting to derail pm's rwanda law . i plotting to derail pm's rwanda law. i mean, tell me something we didn't know. the daily mirror. ha ha . farage fakery row mirror. ha ha. farage fakery row vote. nigel campaign using bogus picks to boost his chances. >> that is desperate. >> that is desperate. >> yeah, well, i'll pictures like we'll get to it . >> yeah, well, i'll pictures like we'll get to it. i'll just wish you a couple more. the telegraph jenrick too many migrants to integrate. yeah so this is, by the way, our former immigration minister. so. cheers. cheers. bobby generic integrating migrants into society is impossible at the current levels. yeah. again, we all know that . another nice all know that. another nice picture of the royals, the guardian office reveal guardian home office told reveal full rwanda plan . so full cost of rwanda plan. so they are saying that the tories in disarray over controversial scheme as costs set to pass 400 million right back to us here in the studio now let's zone in on the studio now let's zone in on the mirror right so nigel farage is team is using doctored photographs in a desperate bid to win votes. computer trickery

is being used to create misleading images of vote. nigel, can i just say this is completely and utterly pathetic . completely and utterly pathetic. i'm not just saying that these are pictures is that were about the empire state building with a picture of nigel on it saying vote nigel. right. so obviously it's fake. and so what are they never seen photographs that have been sort of put together . been sort of put together. >> are they pretending that people think that's real, that he's really at the top of the empire state building at the same as being in the same time as being in the jungle? this is just a non—story. bashing nigel. >> if this has made the mirror's front page, then, know, front page, then, you know, honestly, need to honestly, shame. they need to sort out the mirror. >> well, it really is. >> well, it really is. >> do need to sort out >> they do need to sort out their journalists, >> they do need to sort out theirjournalists, but >> they do need to sort out their journalists, but really, this pathetic. just this is pathetic. this is just pathetic. one itv said pathetic. one itv source said nigel's at nigel's team will stop at nothing . nothing. >> will stop? even will >> will they stop? even will photoshop photo of him on top photoshop a photo of him on top of the empire state building? >> it's shocking. >> it's shocking. >> they him . >> they did him. >> they did him. >> they did him. >> they did him on the side of london taxis. right. which actually, honest with actually, to be honest with you, i'm of black cabbies

i'm sure plenty of black cabbies would have actually willingly done they had him done that anyway. they had him at leicester square cinema. at the leicester square cinema. you a joke . you know, the famous a joke. >> get yeah. >> get it? yeah. >> get it? yeah. >> so what as well. the >> but so what as well. the point is , right, if they'd have point is, right, if they'd have actually done that. so if they'd have actually lit up the empire state actually state building or actually lit up parliament, up the houses of parliament, real have gone out real people would have gone out and that more and seen that i'd be more inclined to vote instead. now it's who've got him it's only people who've got him on that can actually see on twitter that can actually see this i thought this stuff. anyway, i thought when saw this front page when i saw this this front page at first i didn't realise it was it was so obviously stupid and not thought, are they >> i thought, what are they doing giving him, >> i thought, what are they ddon't giving him, >> i thought, what are they ddon't know, giving him, >> i thought, what are they ddon't know, poutyjiving him, >> i thought, what are they ddon't know, pouty lipsg him, >> i thought, what are they ddon't know, pouty lips oriim, >> i thought, what are they ddon't know, pouty lips or more i don't know, pouty lips or more cheekbones. i wasn't sure what do you mean by fakery row? i couldn't understand. there would be as stupid as be something as stupid as superimposing. of course it's silly. of course they've silly. and of course they've done they're all doing it. done it. they're all doing it. and it's great to do. how and it's great fun to do. how can a front story , can this be a front page story, how the mirror's lost the wheel and are real and actually there are real politics the moment. politics going on at the moment. >> issues and >> there are real issues and that's sad about that's what's really sad about the the mirror's lost the plot. >> the mirror's lost the plot. they ran some kind of poll which showed their showed that about half of their readers wanted nigel

readers supposedly wanted nigel to got too washed to win. they then got too washed up.has to win. they then got too washed up. has been labour on the up. has been labour mps on the front say he needs to out front to say he needs to be out of evil and of there because he's evil and dangerous. the next day dangerous. and then the next day they were oh, actually they were like, oh, actually he's nobody's he's so boring, nobody's watching. going, watching. and now they're going, oh, it's oh, it's a fakery route. it's like, know, show me your like, you know, show me your rattled your rattled without showing me your rattled. a quick rattled. i've just got a quick clip of nigel. i think i'm right in now, meeting his in saying now, now meeting his daughter. right? go on, daughter. is that right? go on, let's it. let's do it. >> hello? >> hello? >> i don't believe how are >> i don't believe it. how are you, you all right ? you, love? are you all right? >> she's happy to see you. >> she's happy to see you. >> oh, happy to see you, though . >> oh, happy to see you, though. yeah yes . yeah yes. >> sit . down. oh you know what? >> sit. down. oh you know what? >> sit. down. oh you know what? >> all human beings, by the way. yeah. really lovely. >> you saw the emotion of his daughter. totally such a lovely dad . dad. >> and if you were a parent. oh, my god, you'd feel that ten times. i've got it. >> i've got it. i know, i know. >> i'm like, on the verge of tears. >> yeah, i'd really love. >> yeah, i'd really love. >> i'll tell you who else came

across really, well, in across really, really well, in fact, this time last. this time. last we last week. exactly. we were doing nigel's partner doing it was was nigel's partner law. she's out there law. you know she's out there as well so people are well now. so i think people are just him in a very just seeing him in a very different light. so i think it's really cool that there's politics in jungle. politics in the jungle. >> really cool that >> i think it's really cool that viewers are actually some viewers are actually seeing some things being discussed that aren't random aren't just about random celebrity like, you celebrity gossip or like, you know, bull's testicles or whatever all this stuff is. i'm not watching the jungle. want not watching the jungle. i want nigel i'm not nigel to win, but i'm not watching but i actually, watching it. but i actually, from i've seen, from the clips i've seen, i think really interesting think it's really interesting that explaining how that he's explaining to them how the house lords works or or the house of lords works or or his for brexit. you his rationale for brexit. you know, like that. his rationale for brexit. you knoi', like that. his rationale for brexit. you knoi have like that. his rationale for brexit. you knoi have no like that. his rationale for brexit. you knoi have no doubt at. his rationale for brexit. you knoi have no doubt that he has >> i have no doubt that he has been a more discussing been doing a lot more discussing and lot and getting and turning a lot and getting hearts jungle. hearts and minds in the jungle. and not showing it. bear and itv are not showing it. bear in you're at mercy in mind that you're at the mercy of the edit. lucky to have of the edit. we're lucky to have what they showed because actually they'd nigel what they showed because actualif they'd nigel what they showed because actualif they ay'd nigel what they showed because actualif they showed nigel what they showed because actualif they showed halfl what they showed because actualif they showed half of really if they showed half of the stuff that he was doing, he would be far more popular. imagine they're trying to make the edit looks bad and the edit so he looks bad and still looks good. >> if they're going >> i wonder if they're going to try and do everything they can.

they must bricking it over. they must be bricking it over. itv had the one itv now, you had one of the one of their chief execs standing up at industry event, at an event, an industry event, just nigel went in flicking just as nigel went in flicking the finger at him and slagging him they must be thinking, him off. they must be thinking, what do we do if we've what on earth do we do if we've paid? nigel farage £1.5 million to come and become even more popular than he already was? like double his popularity fee, right in the process, massively shooting themselves, massively boost news. yeah. boost gb news. yeah. >> thank so much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> him to propel him to a >> propel him to propel him to a i mean, whoever that bit, whoever's whoever's come up with that idea, i mean, can i just say genuinely, it say genuinely, but i thought it was. thank itv thank you. was. thank you, itv thank you. >> it obvious for all of >> isn't it obvious for all of us from the beginning that he was going to win? >> but had know him. we're >> but we had we know him. we're not reading headlines in the guardian mirror. we know guardian and the mirror. we know him good man. him as the good man. >> he turned up the >> he turned up at the conservative party conference a few months ago and was absolutely mobbed. know . absolutely mobbed. i don't know. >> know if he'll >> i still don't know if he'll win outright, just purely win it outright, just purely because of because there's a couple of people the made in people in there. sam the made in chelsea tends to do quite chelsea lot tends to do quite well. can i just. i've got chelsea lot tends to do quite wel|talk1 i just. i've got chelsea lot tends to do quite wel|talk about:. i've got chelsea lot tends to do quite wel|talk about some i've got chelsea lot tends to do quite wel|talk about some slightlyot

chelsea lot tends to do quite welltrseriousrt some slightlyot chelsea lot tends to do quite welltrserious news|e slightlyot chelsea lot tends to do quite welltrserious news that'shtly ot chelsea lot tends to do quite welltrserious news that'shtlythe more serious news that's on the front of the papers. is front of one of the papers. is that all right? >> right. >> all right. >> all right. >> yeah. just going to go >> yeah. so i'm just going to go to telegraph, think, to the telegraph, i think, because versed because we're quite well versed in it moves on in this topic. but it moves on the rwanda discussion a little bit. so it's robert who the rwanda discussion a little bit. recently )bert who the rwanda discussion a little bit. recently )beour who the rwanda discussion a little bit. recently)beour immigration quit recently as our immigration minister party faces red hot fury rwanda. fury from voters over rwanda. legislation fine. but this legislation fine. but then this additional line is there are too many migrants to integrate. so he basically saying, yeah, he is basically saying, yeah, that the numbers are too high and that at the moment we are not going to have a cohesive society. tonya. i mean , is he society. tonya. i mean, is he right about. >> he's absolutely right. why didn't he do something about it when was the yeah when he was in the job? yeah literally thought with literally what i thought with suella how can say suella braverman how can you say all and didn't all this stuff and you didn't say prime minister or say it to the prime minister or you colours to you didn't nail your colours to the mask ? the to the mask? >> absolutely. why are they saying now? quit saying this now? they quit and then come with this then they come out with this stuff. they're in the home stuff. well, they're in the home office. wonder they allegedly office. no wonder they allegedly have power. is not fit for purpose. they should have power. is not fit for pu|doing they should have power. is not fit for pu|doing they|ey should have power. is not fit for pu|doing they believe ld have power. is not fit for pu|doing they believe when be doing what they believe when they a position. they when they have a position. i think there are serious questions, though, tanya, about the way that the civil service

is going about it, these permanent a heck permanent secretaries on a heck of a of money, very often on of a lot of money, very often on more money than the prime minister as lee minister himself, who as lee anderson very easily, anderson found out very easily, we the basics about we don't know the basics about how many people have been deported and that did make me wonder, actually, hang on wonder, well, actually, hang on a minute. >> our politicians, if, if this is that they're is the lot that they're being tasked carrying the tasked with, carrying out the things care things that the public care about, then knackered. about, then we're knackered. >> i real a real problem >> i have a real a real problem with senior civil servants . i with senior civil servants. i don't they should be don't think they should be having power having their jobs. and the power that know , if that they have, you know, if the british for british public vote for something and they don't like it, power to just it, they have the power to just prevent it from happening. we know so know that from brexit. so i think that it needs to be a real rejig of the way our governments are run and someone needs to just grow the spine and do it. >> but really , really disturbing >> but really, really disturbing stuff has come out of the home office past few months office over the past few months about really just about insiders really just saying, know , we're not saying, you know, we're not serious about immigration. none of ever be of these policies will ever be enacted. we're not we're not really serious about taking back control this is really serious about taking back c(democrat this is really serious about taking back c(democrat deficit. this is really serious about taking back c(democrat deficit. this his is really serious about taking back

c(democrat deficit. this is; is really serious about taking back c(democrat deficit. this is what a democrat deficit. this is what people , no matter what you think people, no matter what you think of it , this is what people have of it, this is what people have asked our government to do. again and again and again for seven since brexit. i mean seven years since brexit. i mean , way before that. this is an issue matters to issue that really matters to people racist and people and it's not racist and it's not xenophobic to say that it's not xenophobic to say that it's not xenophobic to say that it's not racist to say you feel the being the country is being overwhelmed, get overwhelmed, that you can't get to see gp, that you can't to see your gp, that you can't get your children into decent schools because being schools because we are being overwhelmed. could overwhelmed. no country could could take on over 700,000 people a year and year out. no, they can't. >> and i think it's symptomatic. in fact, i know it's symptomatic of a group of people who live a certain kind of life in a completely they're not living in the coastal towns. >> they're not living anywhere. >> they're not living anywhere. >> and they think people >> and they think that people are sent the most are being sent to the most offensive for is that offensive thing for me is that they that people who care they think that people who care about this stuff are thick and wrong therefore are wrong and they therefore are justified them. justified in overriding them. stellar stuff . i will see you stellar stuff. i will see you again in just few minutes time again in just a few minutes time because we're going to have because as we're going to have a look at a couple of other front pages, soon with the pages, very, very soon with the

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yeah welcome back. now we're going to round off the paper review with broadcast and journalist michael craig, who i'm very grateful to. he joins me in the studio right now. got a couple of other front pages that we haven't shown to you so far. i've the times, far. so i've got the times, which is pm's chance of rwanda plan success 50% at best. rishi sunak's emergency rwanda migration scheme is only a 50% at best chance of enabling flies to take off before the next general election. that is according to the government's official legal advice. apparently craig king stuff apparently so craig king stuff there at the independent . it there at the independent. it goesin there at the independent. it goes in with johnny depp and bono. goes in with johnny depp and bono . join thousands bono. join thousands bidding farewell pogues singer shane farewell to pogues singer shane macgowan. a massive

macgowan. it was a massive funeral for that musical legend today and a big picture story on the independent the front of the independent images of palestinian images emerged of palestinian men blindfolded and stripped to their underwear israeli their underwear by israeli forces in gaza. the piles forces in gaza. the us piles pressure on israel over the conduct of the war. so those are the two of the front pages. there michael, i'm going to throw this over to you. what's tickled pickle the front there? >> well, actually, this picture for it's extraordinary. >> you look closely at this >> if you look closely at this picture, we'll bring it back of the palestinians the of the palestinians who've been israeli been arrested by israeli soldiers is what strikes me is how overweight they are. >> the virtually every man in that i cannot believe that picture. i cannot believe that picture. i cannot believe that those men there are hamas fighters . i mean, they're just fighters. i mean, they're just those guys. >> look, look closely. they look like they are utterly i will say , unfit. >> we do. we do get you. you are known for your insightful angles on news stories. right. generally i'm not taking them. but i mean, those those men would anywhere near would never get anywhere near any the world. any army in the world. >> i mean, in other words, what i'm saying is it hamas? it's a

group but presumably, if you group of. but presumably, if you are a hamas fighter, yeah, you've be pretty you've got to be pretty fit to do that job. >> i cannot believe that that group of they're so are you group of men, they're so are you are you insinuating . group of men, they're so are you are you insinuating. i'm suggesting that they're probably not hamas fighters. >> think ? >> do you think? >> do you think? >> okay. well, we don't know at the moment. >> we don't know. but not to be fair . fair. >> i mean, you do raise it quite a good point, which is singularly that they are all obese, actually, i must obese, which actually, i must say noticed you say i hadn't noticed until you literally pointed it out. regardless that, though, regardless of that, though, i mean, this picture very emotive, you blokes. yeah. all butt you know, blokes. yeah. all butt naked with blindfolds on. i mean, the israelis got mean, the israelis have got a right figure out who's hamas right to figure out who's hamas and not patron and who's not. i mean not patron isolation. think points isolation. i don't think points to untoward on to anything untoward going on or does it? to anything untoward going on or doewell, it's interesting >> well, it's interesting actually, there's actually, that there's been a lot about these pictures actually, that there's been a lot the about these pictures actually, that there's been a lot the ones out these pictures actually, that there's been a lot the ones that hese pictures actually, that there's been a lot the ones that appeared|res actually, that there's been a lot the ones that appeared this and the ones that appeared this morning about morning in the papers about palestinians being rounded up and how outrageous that is . i and how outrageous that is. i think much more serious is the, you know, the thousands of people that have been killed in in gaza and the utterly

disproportion nature of the israeli attacks, which are continuing. and indeed, the headune continuing. and indeed, the headline in under this story is us piles pressure on israel over the conduct of the war and the americans. anthony blinken in particular, the secretary of state, is making that clear to the israeli is now that that this that the level of killings has got to stop and that the americans are basically saying , americans are basically saying, yeah, you carry on targeting hamas but the level of civilian killings is far too high and there comes a point, i think, where the israelis is in danger of losing support from. >> that was always going to be the big risk with israel. >> and that's been the case in the with israel. and it's the past with israel. and it's and of the various and it's handling of the various cnses and it's handling of the various crises that occurred in the crises that have occurred in the 80 history of the state. 80 year history of the state. >> i mean, obviously, will >> i mean, obviously, they will say and there is say and i think there is absolute there is absolutely true is that true to this, which is that hamas and the way that they operate, they will be trying to maximise civilian casualties operate, they will be trying to ma mise civilian casualties operate, they will be trying to ma miseof civilian casualties operate, they will be trying to ma miseof , civilian casualties operate, they will be trying to ma miseof , you lian casualties operate, they will be trying to ma miseof , you know,isualties operate, they will be trying to ma miseof , you know, kind ies operate, they will be trying to ma miseof , you know, kind of as a way of, you know, kind of coming back against israel and

using that as a propaganda tool. >> know that things >> we know that they hide things in hospitals schools, in hospitals and schools, etcetera. so and i suppose israel will say, well, has israel will say, well, hamas has gone and said, we'll gone on record and said, we'll just it. we'll just just do it. we'll just do october 7th. if you october the 7th. again, if you don't obliterate us, essentially. sure. >> mean , the other >> but i mean, the other consideration is this, that even >> but i mean, the other cotheyeration is this, that even >> but i mean, the other cothey kill)n is this, that even >> but i mean, the other cothey kill every his, that even >> but i mean, the other cothey kill every signedt even >> but i mean, the other cothey kill every signed upven if they kill every signed up member of hamas , if there is member of hamas, if there is such a thing, they are creating a new generation of fighters who could end up being even more extreme than hamas , if that is extreme than hamas, if that is possible. now, i'm not in any way condoning the appalling events of october the 7th, but i'm just saying that the israelis have gone too far here. and i think it's good, good that the west well , the americans are the west well, the americans are making that clear to israel . and making that clear to israel. and i and i only wish that the americans had been a bit tougher on israel when it came to the whole issue of the palestinian of the israeli settlement. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> look, it will be interesting to see to see how it pans out. i mean, know a lot lot of

mean, i know a lot a lot of people are still massively in favour of everything that israel is see how is doing. we'll have to see how that can i just touch that plays out. can i just touch on with you, please? on the times with you, please? pm's everyone planned pm's chance. everyone planned success and this is success 50% at best. and this is apparently according to the government's own legal advice is rishi sunak his in rishi sunak tearing his party in the country apart on policy the country apart on a policy that work . that just won't work. >> so i think there's two things here, aren't there ? on the one here, aren't there? on the one hand, he desperately needs to fulfil that exaggerated promise of stopping the boats. i mean, when we heard that, we all thought, well, there's no way you're going to stop every boat. no, you know, you might be able to reduce it to and a degree they because of they have reduced it because of they have reduced it because of the situation . so he the albanian situation. so if he could could end the could if he could end the implement the rwanda policy and act as a deterrent , that would act as a deterrent, that would be great for rishi sunak. but there's also an element that he needs to be seen to be trying to do something . and clearly he is do something. and clearly he is that that he can say that right now. but of course, it's not just the possibility here, which is what the government's legal advisor is talking about, of it

being injunctions from the being of injunctions from the european court of human rights. but you've got the whole issue of whether it's going to get through the house of commons next whether will next week, whether it will subsequently get through the house what the house of lords. what will the uk supreme court say about it? so actually it seems to me that the chances of any significant number of refugees or asylum seekers being sent to rwanda within the next 12 months are pretty slim . yeah, but it's pretty slim. yeah, but it's still from a political point of view, it's still worth trying for rishi sunak because he needs to be seen to be trying and there's nothing else really that thatis there's nothing else really that that is going to make a difference quickly. >> well, he's not going to turn the boats back, is he? and so that's so i mean, you could argue in the light, seriously immediate, immediate future, forget you know, i mean, and if you take things of that, that's the only thing that could happen immediate thing. so he's immediate thing. right. so he's not to that. not going to do that. so therefore, this, it? therefore, it's this, isn't it? >> know, if you take >> i mean, you know, if you take labour's for instance, labour's policies, for instance, which is, you know, negotiations with french tougher

with the french and tougher enforcement all with the french and tougher enthat,nent all with the french and tougher enthat, those all with the french and tougher enthat, those are all with the french and tougher enthat, those are those all with the french and tougher enthat, those are those are all of that, those are those are policies that would take years to come to fruition. >> we're gonna to park it >> we're gonna have to park it that good stuff was absolutely love seriously, do. >> let's just wanted to counter what you and your guests were saying about nigel farage. >> it very quickly. >> i'll do it very quickly. michael thinks that nigel michael craig thinks that nigel farage has got a nasty streak. there go. your views got out there you go. your views got out there right now. it's time. >> shut up. >> it's. shut up. >> it's. shut up. >> right. we're going >> shut up. right. we're going to to greatest britain union. to go to greatest britain union. jack quickly. only jack us very quickly. we're only going have for greatest going to have time for greatest britain. i start you britain. so can i start with you for greatest please? for greatest britain please? >> britain. shane >> my greatest britain. shane macgowan beautiful. macgowan for the most beautiful. because was you might because i was hoping you might play because i was hoping you might play clip. the most play an extra clip. the most beautiful christmas song ever. >> unfortunately, don't >> well, unfortunately, i don't think time for that now, think we have time for that now, but anyway. think we have time for that now, but tanya, anyway. think we have time for that now, but tanya, who's anyway. think we have time for that now, but tanya, who's your anyway. think we have time for that now, but tanya, who's your greatest and tanya, who's your greatest britain, please. >> got joint greatest. >> i've got a joint greatest. britain's i've got sunita gupta and if and carl heneghan. because if we'd them and the we'd listened to them and the great barrington declaration , great barrington declaration, then we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. we wouldn't have lost lives. and this lost so many lives. and this covid is a complete covid inquiry is a complete joke, want at joke, and i want to just at least hold them for the

least hold them up for the greatness of them. how good they were. greatness of them. how good they werright? two two strong >> right? well, two two strong choices i'm going to choices there. i'm going to go with macgowan because , you with shane macgowan because, you know, his funeral today. with shane macgowan because, you knobecause his funeral today. with shane macgowan because, you knobecause you'llneral today. with shane macgowan because, you knobecause you'll be al today. with shane macgowan because, you knobecause you'll be back ay. with shane macgowan because, you knobecause you'll be back on no, because you'll be back on and probably them and we'll probably nominate them again will. every again next time. i will. every time shane time i'm going to go shane macgowan and it sounds like he had an absolutely right send off today. thank you. today. michael thank you. wonderful panel. thank you very, very lots of very much. over there. lots of love all. thanks for love to you all. thanks for watching. i'll see you on monday at have a weekend. a at nine. have a great weekend. a brighter boxt solar brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. there'll be heavy rain for many areas of the country throughout saturday. it'll turn quite windy through the afternoon, but there'll also be some sunshine later and be some sunshine later on and some interludes as the some drier interludes as the weekend progresses throughout the course of the night, we'll be between weather fronts. that means there will be some dry weather around, particularly for central midlands, weather around, particularly for centriof midlands, weather around, particularly for centriof east midlands, weather around, particularly for centriof east anglia'iidlands, weather around, particularly for centriof east anglia as.ands, weather around, particularly for centriof east anglia as well. parts of east anglia as well. seeing some good dry, clear

spells throughout the night. that then will push that dry weather then will push northwards. respite northwards. so some respite spreading north throughout the night. also very heavy night. but also some very heavy rain arriving into the far southwest with a southerly breeze across the country. another mild night, but it will be a very wet start to the weekend, particularly across southern areas where there's already a lot water on the already a lot of water on the roads well as northern roads as well as northern ireland of scotland, ireland and parts of scotland, too, we've had lot of too, where we've had a lot of rain already this week by the afternoon and by lunchtime, it does clear up the west and does clear up from the west and so there will be some sunshine in the afternoon, but the winds do pick up and there is a wind warning force. could see warning in force. we could see gusts in excess of 60mph, particularly across irish sea coasts throughout course of coasts throughout the course of saturday there'll be saturday afternoon. there'll be another dry interlude sunday morning , particularly across morning, particularly across eastern so a good start eastern areas. so a good start to day on sunday, it to the day on sunday, but it does quickly cloud over as this next area rain pushes next area of rain pushes eastwards . it will be a brief eastwards. it will be a brief spell of rain and it spell of rain and behind it we'll further dry weather we'll see further dry weather arrive. we could also see some more dry weather developing by

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gb news. >> good evening. >> good evening. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. the us has blocked calls for an immediate ceasefire

in gaza after a united nations security council resolution to demand a ceasefire in gaza failed because it was vetoed by the us. there were 13 votes in favour whilst britain chose to abstain on the voting . the us is abstain on the voting. the us is the only nation to vote against the only nation to vote against the ceasefire . downing street the ceasefire. downing street has rejected . claims mps were has rejected. claims mps were misled over the cost of the rwanda scheme. that's after it emerged the asylum plan has reached £240 million before any flights have taken off. ministers expect a further 50 million will be spent in the coming year. rishi sunak , who's coming year. rishi sunak, who's facing division within his party over the policy, is hoping to rush emergency legislation through parliament with the first vote on tuesday . a man has first vote on tuesday. a man has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 20 years for stabbing two police officers in central london on great windmill street . street. >> stay where you are . get back. >> stay where you are. get back. >> stay where you are. get back. >> the met police has now

released body cam footage of the