on some of the big topics taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion . this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course , it's yours. we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times we will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next hour , joining me for the next hour, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza . and party adviser matthew laza. and then still to come , we'll be then still to come, we'll be joining we'll be talking about palestine . but before we get palestine. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana . nana. news with tatiana. nana. >> thank you. 3:00. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the lib dems are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached the ministerial code by failing to declare £100 million payment to rwanda . it was sent to kigali in rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april on top of the £140 million already paid . that brings the already paid. that brings the total to 240 million. writing in

the daily telegraph, former immigration minister robert jenrick , who resigned this week, jenrick, who resigned this week, has warned rishi sunak rwanda bill far enough. the bill doesn't go far enough. the times reports the rwanda legislation has been given only a 50% at best chance of successfully getting flights off the ground next year. greater manchester conservative chairman stephen carlton wood says the stakes are high for the prime minister. i think that rishi feels as though he might have 999 feels as though he might have egg on his face if he doesn't proceed with it and it's all right people saying, oh well, the law, the we should sort of line your ducks up first to make sure that you, you know, you're going get through a court. going to get it through a court. >> but as i said earlier, it's untested law. there's always untested law. so there's always going internal rotation going to be an internal rotation of that in a different way. and we've seen judges across the country have different internal irritations this anyway , for irritations of this anyway, for former home secretary suella braverman says, the uk's abstention from the un security council ceasefire vote is disappointing. >> the ballot that would allow aid into the enclave and people

to flee was vetoed by the united states. they stood alongside israel, saying the proposed resolution would only plant the seeds for the next war. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people in gaza amid fears of humanitarian aid collapsing . humanitarian aid collapsing. thousands of people are marching through central london in protest at the ongoing israel—hamas war. the met police have arrested a man on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence for allegedly displaying a placard comparing israel to nazi germany . the israel to nazi germany. the march will make its way along the river thames and meet outside parliament square. police are maintaining strict rules around the demonstration, including a hard curfew to complete the rally by 5 pm. members of multiple unions met today to argue against anti—strike laws after 18 months of industrial action, hundreds of industrial action, hundreds of thousands of workers have taken actions over pay and conditions . as it says, conditions. as it says, regulations to ensure minimum

levels of service came into force yesterday. this is the first time in 40 years the tuc assembled a special national conference, while its general secretary, paul novak, says the strikes act is unfit for the modern day worker. >> going on strike is a basic protection that working people have relied on for generations . have relied on for generations. but today we've got a tory government that feels threatened by that basic protection , even by that basic protection, even threatened by the organised working class , threatened by working class, threatened by workers having the temerity to stand up and their response reach out for that old thatcherite playbook, slap more, restrict actions on unions, bully working people into keeping quiet dozens of flights were unable to leave gatwick airport for a few hours today after a system outage. >> passengers flying to and from the airport reported planes being delayed on the tarmac at 8:00 this morning. the airport has apologised for any ongoing

delays . court documents reveal delays. court documents reveal the late queen wanted protection for the duke and duchess of sussex after they abstained from royal duties . an extract from a royal duties. an extract from a letter written by the late queen's private secretary, sir edward young states it's imperative that the family continues to be provided with effective security in a statement, prince harry said he feared for his family's safety and felt forced to leave the uk. he's suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements . brace yourselves . arrangements. brace yourselves. as storm ellen brings gale force winds and heavy rain to the uk this weekend, the met office says the midlands northern england and northern ireland will see gusts of up to 70mph. parts of northern england could also see up to 30mm of rain today, with a yellow warning in place stretching from carlisle to sheffield until 3:00 tomorrow morning. separate rain warnings also cover northern ireland

until 7:00 this evening and parts of southern scotland until 9 pm. and finally, a rare white alligator has been born for the first time in captivity . the first time in captivity. the female reptile is one of only seven leucistic alligators in the world. that's according to officials at the theme park in florida, where she was born. they're the rarest genetic variation in the american alligator differing from the albino, which have pink eyes and albino, which have pink eyes and a complete loss of pigment. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . nana .nana and thank you, tatiana . and thank you, tatiana. >> it's fast approaching. six minutes after 3:00. this is gb news i'm nana quick coming up, we'll have the latest on the

palestine marches taking place in central london. again then at 320, it's climate control. this is a top scientist saying that the uk isn't prepared for the rising global temperatures will be unpicking their claims. then stay tuned at 335. steve miller will be live to discuss obesity britain and whether the uk is really too fat . and of course, really too fat. and of course, charlie mullins is this week's political spotlight . stay tuned political spotlight. stay tuned because we've got so much to talk about as he reveals the work ethic that took him from the streets of north london to selling own company for selling his own company for hundreds millions also hundreds of millions and also make sure you stay tuned because i've got the fabulous brianna ivy who will be here live talking to us from america about her transition . and you won't her transition. and you won't want to miss that. all of that coming up in the next hour. tell me everything me what you think on everything we're email we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. but first, thousands of pro—palestinian protesters are marching in

central london again to demonstrate against the resumption of israel's bombing of gaza. but there has been mounting pressure on the met police to take stricter action against incidents of anti—semitism during the demonstrations. we're joining me now now is gb news reporterjack now now is gb news reporter jack carlson. jack where about are you at the moment? what's going on behind you ? on behind you? >> yeah. so we've now reached parliament square. this is the end of the march, as you can probably hear on the stage behind me, the cheering and the speeches that are taking place . speeches that are taking place. at end, of course, of this at the end, of course, of this march. just bring you an march. just want to bring you an update had the update that we've had from the metropolitan in the last metropolitan police in the last couple of moments. they've confirmed arrest confirmed that a further arrest has for an offensive has been made for an offensive placard, that have seen placard, that they have seen within this protest . of course, within this protest. of course, they confirmed a little bit earlier at start of the earlier on at the start of the march bank junction march when we left bank junction that arrested a man on that they had arrested a man on suspicion of racially aggravated a public order offence. they say, for having a placard allegedly making comparisons of

israel with nazi germany. so that's now two confirmed arrests from the metropolitan police have confirmed from the protest today, it has to be said they have been largely peaceful. we believe from the announcement that we had on stage just a short while ago that 100,000 people have taken part in this palestinian solidarity campaign march today. their message has been very clear. when we've been here and there have been chanting that they want an immediate ceasefire. course, immediate ceasefire. of course, there vote that wasn't there was that vote that wasn't there was that vote that wasn't there united nations on there in the united nations on there in the united nations on the security council for a ceasefire. 13 out of the 15 nafions ceasefire. 13 out of the 15 nations on the council voted in favour. the uk abstained from that vote, but of course, because of the united states being a permanent member on that council, they were able to veto that call. of course, in their support for israel . now amongst support for israel. now amongst the different conditions that the different conditions that the police have been putting, of course, on these protesters , one course, on these protesters, one of them was a section 12 of the pubuc of them was a section 12 of the public order act that means that the protesters have had stick the protesters have had to stick to their designated and

to their designated route. and so , it does look the so far, it does look like the protesters have done that. but there further there are also further conditions around. of course, the dispersal these the dispersal of these protesters, some them, many protesters, some of them, many of that march has of them now that this march has ended, starting to leave ended, are starting to leave peacefully head home. and as peacefully and head home. and as you can hear behind me, these speeches will continue until 4:00, police will ask 4:00, when the police will ask the to stop. and they the speeches to stop. and they say that crowds should be say that all crowds should be dispersed by 5 pm, but so far, it's been much more peaceful , dispersed by 5 pm, but so far, it's been much more peaceful, i think, here today than we've seen previous protests. but seen from previous protests. but as metropolitan police as the metropolitan police confirmed the last few confirmed in the last few moments , that's now two arrests moments, that's now two arrests in total from the march today. yeah and just briefly, jack , yeah and just briefly, jack, have you heard any chancellor from the river to the sea or any offensive chanting or have they stopped doing that now ? no, stopped doing that now? no, those chants have continued. of course, they are very controversial chants in their meaning. so from the river to the sea was one of them. as well as chants calling israel a terrorist state. there's certainly been many of those chants within the crowds as well. but in terms of offensive

placards, it seems to be much better from the protesters here today. >> all right, jack, thank you very much. that's jack carlson. he's there in central london at the pro—palestine protest. let's cross to tel aviv now live and get some analysis from mr farage geller. uri, thank you so much again for joining geller. uri, thank you so much again forjoining me. oh, we've again for joining me. oh, we've got a giant bear. what's the what's bear about uri in a what's the bear about uri in a moment, i'll tell you, first of all, may i take this opportunity to wish everyone on all your viewers a happy christmas and to all your jewish viewers and there are plenty happy hanukkah, hanukkah, sameach . hanukkah, sameach. >> now, why am i holding this teddy bear? let me tell you why. yes today and an idf, an israeli commando unit, broke into to a school in gaza, a school, an elementary school, by the way. >> that's where all the weapons are. they found the teddy bear about this size. they tore the teddy bear open . and inside the

teddy bear open. and inside the teddy bear open. and inside the teddy bear open. and inside the teddy bear , there was ammunition teddy bear, there was ammunition . they found sniper rifles. >> they found landmines. >> they found landmines. >> they found inside toys , >> they found inside toys, grenades. i mean , this is in an grenades. i mean, this is in an elementary school, nana. >> now, let me just talk a little about what happened yesterday. >> you know , last night, the un >> you know, last night, the un met to call for a ceasefire because those protesters are shouting, what about a ceasefire? thankfully our friends, the americans vetoed it. >> now, look, nana people don't understand. >> and let me explain why there cannot and must not be a ceasefire . look, a ceasefire ceasefire. look, a ceasefire would save hamas. hamas isis, a ceasefire would enable hamas to repeat it over again. october 7. a ceasefire would not free our hostages . hostages. >> now, let me ask you this question.

>> all your viewers send send , >> all your viewers send send, send nana on facebook or instagram. would the uk have accepted a ceasefire to when it was fighting the falkland war? no because that would have handed a victory to argentina . handed a victory to argentina. would the uk have accepted the ceasefire when it was fighting the nazis? obviously not. so for the nazis? obviously not. so for the same reasons as there can be no ceasefire here until israel has defeated hamas . by the way , has defeated hamas. by the way, you know, you must understand that the people who will benefit when israel defeats hamas are the palestinians in gaza. they are right now led by a cruel, oppressive , dictatorial regime . oppressive, dictatorial regime. you know, hamas does not hold elections. hamas does not feed its people. hamas oppresses women. hamas kills gays. its people. hamas oppresses women. hamas kills gays . this is women. hamas kills gays. this is unbelievable. so one more thing i want to show you, and this is important for you to all hear

and understand synchronicity wise, i don't know why i chose to stand next to darth vader from star wars. by the way, the reason he's in my museum is because the actor who played danh because the actor who played darth vader was dave prowse, who was a very good friend of mine. now, listen to this. i've something to say which will shock your viewers. do you know how much gaza has received in foreign aid in the past few years? i'll tell you approximately . $10 billion, $10 approximately. $10 billion, $10 billion from the un, from the us, from qatar, from the eu, $10 billion. can you imagine what gaza should look like ? it should gaza should look like? it should be like singapore. it should be like dubai, it should be wealthier than the whole knightsbridge in london. now ask yourself, why not? the answer is simple. it's because hamas has stolen all the money and used it for weapons and tunnels. it's leader is called ishmael .

leader is called ishmael. haniyeh does not live in gaza . haniyeh does not live in gaza. do you know where he lives? he lives in a luxury hotel in qatar , and he himself has a personal fortune of $4 billion. all this while ordinary people in gaza are struggling to survive. you can you can google, google them flying in their private jets . flying in their private jets. the hamas leaders. yeah it is frightening . frightening. >> i think a lot of people are very concerned about all the death and destruction within gaza. i know the israeli people are as well. it is really good to talk to you. really to good see you. thank you so much for your thoughts. that's a live there in tel aviv. thank you very much . thank you . well, very much. thank you. well, listen, stay with me because i've got loads more to show you. joining me now is international security and border expert control, henry bolton. henry, thank you much for coming to thank you so much for coming to the studio. now, listen , i the studio. now, listen, i wanted show you a clip that wanted to show you a clip that i saw earlier this week , and it saw earlier this week, and it was a clip of a lady who was talking to leaders of top universities in america and

asking them about the whether or not genocide , what genocide was not genocide, what genocide was and whether genocidal chanting was okay and whether you saw this clip. but i have a listen to this . to this. >> dr. kornbluth, does at mit does calling for the genocide of jews violate mit's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassing ? bullying and harassing? >> yes or no, if targeted at individuals not making public statements , yes or no? statements, yes or no? >> calling for the genocide of jews does not constitute bullying and harassment. >> i have not heard you calling for the genocide for jews on >> i have not heard you calling for the genocide forjews on our campus. >> but you've heard chants for intifada . intifada. >> i've heard chants which can be anti—semitic depending on the context when calling for the elimination of the jewish people i >> -- >> so those would not be according to the mit code of conduct or rules that would be investigated of as harassment. >> if pervasive and severe . >> if pervasive and severe. >> if pervasive and severe. >> ms mcgill at penn does

calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? >> yes or no . >> yes or no. »- >> yes or no. >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> i am asking specific calling for the genocide of jews . for the genocide of jews. >> does that constitute bullying or harassment ? or harassment? >> if it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment. >> so the answer is yes. >> so the answer is yes. >> it is a context dependent decision. congresswoman >> it's a context dependent decision . that's your testimony decision. that's your testimony today calling for the genocide of jews is depending upon the context that is not bullying or harassment . harassment. >> this is the easiest question to answer. yes, ms mcgill so is your testimony that you will not answer yes if it is, if the yes or no, if the speech becomes conduct , but or no, if the speech becomes conduct, but it can be harassment . harassment. >> yes. >> yes. >> conduct meaning committing the act of genocide . the speech

the act of genocide. the speech is not harassment , the act of genocide. the speech is not harassment, but this is unacceptable. ms mcgill, i'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer. does calling for the genocide of jews via kate penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment 7 comes to bullying and harassment ? yes or no . ? yes or no. »- ? yes or no. >> it can be harassment . >> it can be harassment. >> it can be harassment. >> so the answer is yes. >> it can be harassment. >> so the answer is yes . and dr. >> so the answer is yes. and dr. gay, at harvard, does calling for the genocide of jews violate harvard's rules of bullying and harassment ? yes harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? yes or no ? harassment? yes or no? >> it can be, depending on the context . context. >> it what's the context and targeted as an individual, targeted as an individual, targeted at an individual . it's targeted at an individual. it's targeted at an individual. it's targeted at an individual. it's targeted at jewish students and jewish individuals . do targeted at jewish students and jewish individuals. do you understand your testimony is dehumanising them? do you understand that dehumanising action is part of anti—semitism ? action is part of anti—semitism? i will ask you one more time . i will ask you one more time. does calling for the genocide of

jews violate harvard's rules of bullying and harassing moment? yes or no ? anti—semitic rhetoric yes or no? anti—semitic rhetoric 7 yes or no? anti—semitic rhetoric ? and is it anti—semitic rhetoric or anti—semitic rhetoric or anti—semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment , bullying, harassment, intimidation that that is actionable conduct. >> and we do take action. so the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct . harvard code of conduct. >> correct ? again, it depends on >> correct? again, it depends on the context. it does not depend on the context. the answer is yes. and this is why you should resign. these are unacceptable answers across the board . answers across the board. >> wow. well, i wanted to play you the whole thing because it's painful and i thought it was important that i played you the whole thing so you could hear what it feels. the jewish people whole thing so you could hear wheup: feels. the jewish people whole thing so you could hear wheup against'he jewish people whole thing so you could hear wheup against whatwish people whole thing so you could hear wheup against what is;h people whole thing so you could hear wheup against what is yourople are up against what is your thought on this? i you know, obviously, you know, speaking to uri, then speaking to people at pro—palestinian rallies, everybody the

everybody is concerned of the safety palestinian safety of the palestinian people, course. indeed but people, of course. indeed but why think that there why do you think that there seems feels like seems to be this what feels like anti—semitic ism coming again? >> i think that is anti—semitism. that is such an easy answer to give. of course , easy answer to give. of course, calling for genocide of the jews has got to be against every moral and legal rule that there is, whether it's in an institution like a university or whether it's, you know, in in government or whatever it is, it has to be. and that's an obvious moral response . but yes, moral response. but yes, everybody is concerned about civilian innocent casualties. but i think there's this simplistic approach and i'm sorry, i'm going to be political about this, because i think that there is this on the left . there there is this on the left. there is this sense that anything that is this sense that anything that is in any way perceived to be suppressive or punishment of people is your response has to

be to turn against the organisation, the body, the entity that is doing that. regarding course of the cause of it. and in this particular case it. and in this particular case it is if because you hear similar denial, if you like , similar denial, if you like, over the hamas attacks on the 7th of october, the most heinous , horrific, depraved attacks . , horrific, depraved attacks. and i to be honest, there are few things that i can't get my head around nana but this is one. it can you not condemn what happened on the 7th of october? can you not condemn ? i'm calling can you not condemn? i'm calling for genocide whilst at the same time being concerned about innocent lives being destroyed, innocent lives being destroyed, innocent people being killed and maimed, and so on, and all the psychological damage that comes . psychological damage that comes. i can do both. yeah. why can't other people and i, you know , other people and i, you know, i've said a few times now, i nobody can lecture me about the horrors of war. i've seen them far too many times, close and personal and civilian casualties, mass civilian casualties, mass civilian casualties , too. and i you know,

casualties, too. and i you know, i find it horrific what's going on. however there there has to also be a pragmatic ism about the situation. if there is a ceasefire, as people are calling for in that protest, ceasefire, as people are calling for in that protest , then it is, for in that protest, then it is, as yuri says, quite rightly, going to play directly into the hands of hamas. it will perpetuate the war. it will make the war more intractable and it will lead to further casualties, not fewer. in the short term, maybe fewer, but in the longer term, it will lead to more israeli casualties and more palestinian casualties . and what palestinian casualties. and what people won't know, because i don't the don't think it's been in the media, but since october 7, there have over attacks there have been over 100 attacks on states bases around on united states bases around the middle east and 11 yesterday. that's an yesterday. so that's an escalation. and so we're seeing the longer this goes on, even if you stop it, then it won't help. but if you let it go on, then if you have a ceasefire, it will perpetuate all this will perpetuate and all of this will get worse . get worse. >> henry, you so much. >> henry, thank you so much. we'll back later. anyway to we'll be back later. anyway to talk about stuff, henry talk about more stuff, henry bolton, expert. is bolton, security expert. this is gb welcome aboard if you gb news. welcome aboard if you just 23 just joined in. coming up to 23 after after 3:00 i'm nana akua

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>> good afternoon. 26 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua . this after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel is gb news. we are the people's channel, right? it's time now for climate control, where we unpick the debate around the climate and let's kick it off with this one because the national audit office has warned that the uk government is no effective strategy to protect the country extreme the country from extreme conditions . a bit like nothing. conditions. a bit like nothing. they nothing prepared for they had nothing prepared for covid that . now this covid remember that. now this comes as scientists warn that the on verge of the earth is on the verge of five catastrophic climate tipping as the planet tipping points as the planet warms so should we be worried about the uk's safety if the planet warms ? i'm joined now in planet warms? i'm joined now in the studio by meteorologist and social commentator jim dale. also climate scientist paul burgess . as jim dale, i'll start burgess. as jim dale, i'll start with you. should we be worried ? with you. should we be worried? >> yeah, of course we should be worried , but not with a capital worried, but not with a capital w, i think like all the writings on the wall. >> all scientists come >> all the scientists have come out with over many years. >> what does the writing on the wall say? >> writing the says >> the writing on the wall says that stop fossil that we've got to stop fossil fuel at the rate that fuel emissions at the rate that they this moment in time.

they are at this moment in time. >> otherwise the world >> other otherwise the world would continue to warm up as it is doing just as the met office said this week, the 20 and 24 will be as bad if not worse, in terms of extremes , catastrophes, terms of extremes, catastrophes, record temperatures. we haven't got to the end of 2023, but we know which direction that's going in. >> do we? >> do we? >> so all of this is writing on the wall. it's done, it's dusted . and we've got that ahead of us in terms of in terms of what's going to happen if the world doesn't progress . and that's doesn't progress. and that's what cop 28 is all about. that's what cop 28 is all about. that's what they're trying to achieve. whether they achieve it is a separate matter. 27 cops later, we haven't. but nonetheless , we haven't. but nonetheless, what we're seeing around the world and even in our own country, two storms, by the way, not necessarily climate change, but storm elianne storm franklin tomorrow , one after another . it tomorrow, one after another. it seems to me that we're on a train to nowhere , a train to train to nowhere, a train to nowhere, he says. >> he says he talks of extreme

catastrophes and a train to nowhere. the writing is on the wall. >> paul well, let's put some writing on the wall, okay? >> bring my first image >> i bring my first image up. please yeah. >> let's take a look at >> okay. let's take a look at your first slide. paul let's have a look at his first slide. now, this is taken as a copy for you. >> now, there's a copy for jim right ? this >> now, there's a copy for jim right? this is taken >> now, there's a copy for jim right ? this is taken from the right? this is taken from the ipcc ar6 report. and what i've doneis ipcc ar6 report. and what i've done is just i've put some the black writing, the big black writings, mine is where you got on the left hand side . the on the left hand side. the particular incidents . particular incidents. >> yeah, well, at the top, nothing emerged in historic record. this is the first one i'm looking at. what is that about? >> that's saying up to now there has been no greater frequency or worsening of all these things. >> so until now , so on the on >> so until now, so on the on the other side, it says so rivers, floods, rain, heavy participation , all these participation, all these landslides are . and what's this landslides are. and what's this from? this is from the references at the bottom . references at the bottom. >> so all your viewers see ipcc chapter 12, table 1212 one. >> and this is and what year is

this? >> is this this is the latest report they asked. >> so this is the ipcc report. jim dale . no, let >> so this is the ipcc report. jim dale. no, let me finish. >> so this is the ipcc report. jim dale . no, let me finish. let jim dale. no, let me finish. let me finish . yeah, go on. you me finish. yeah, go on. you can't say no because you know what? going to say. okay. can't say no because you know whethe going to say. okay. can't say no because you know whethe report.g to say. okay. can't say no because you know whethe report. no» say. okay. can't say no because you know whethe report. no to ay. okay. can't say no because you know whethe report. no to this. (ay. it's the report. no to this. yeah, okay. but he's printed out a the report. we won't a copy of the report. we won't put not the real put it up if it's not the real thing. and he's pointing out something that the ipcc are saying, that these saying, which is that these things said because you things that you said because you talked about catastrophic catastrophes in extremes aren't actually happening. yeah well, you it up and it is you have put it up and it is wrong because. >> no, no, no. legitimate scientist is going to say nothing emerged in the nothing has emerged in the historic record to things historic record to say things haven't changed. there's been no catastrophic . there has catastrophic events. there has been , as i say , you know, on been, as i say, you know, on this program before, eyes wide shut, just because your eyes are shut. no, no, no. just because you put nothing emerge in historic record, nothing even anticipated on worst case scenario , even by 2100, it goes scenario, even by 2100, it goes against all known science . it's against all known science. it's as simple as that. and that's that's that's why are you can just are you debunking something

that's come from the ipcc. >> let me just be clear. >> let me just be clear. >> there are 97 pages, i think, in that report. am i right with that, paul? i don't how that, paul? i don't know how many. it's 97, 97. he many. i think it's 97, 97. he may have extracted a little bit in may. no, no, you can do with these things where there is a slight a slight waiver here or a waiver there. i can explain the major about the ipcc is it major thing about the ipcc is it points unequivocally towards a global warming continuing and going to the extremes where we have of catastrophic events occurring across the world at different times. and that's exactly what we're now seeing. okay, paul . okay. okay, paul. okay. >> now what jim is saying is partly right, which is the ipcc does say that, but they go against their own scientists. >> that's the problem . >> that's the problem. >> that's the problem. >> you see, what you have is the ipcc put out a summary report which all the governments read called summary for policy makers. >> that on by the 185 >> that is decided on by the 185 delegates from governments who agree to each sentence and so on. so what they actually spin out is different. could we go to the slide, please?

the next slide, please? >> all right. let's pop the >> all right. let's pop up the next please, let's next slide, please, and let's take so what will this take a look. so what will this slide us? take a look. so what will this slictalk us? take a look. so what will this slictalk utitled report. >> talk be titled is a report. the references showing the references on it showing globally the earth. globally over the earth. droughts declined . and by droughts have declined. and by by and the by this percentage and the percentage decline in in the last period since 1982 to 2012. what about the period after that, though? >> because that's an actual fact i >> -- >> again, droughts have declined and that's my particular expertise. i actually i actually have data here. the worst droughts in the uk. >> how come you haven't the >> how come you haven't put the most slide up thing? most current slide up thing? >> isn't most >> because there isn't the most current this a guy current that is, this is a guy called gregory for study called gregory for that study i've up i've got i've already put up and i've got them want. i've got them here if you want. i've got sudes them here if you want. i've got slides going . i've got going slides going. i've got going back 1775 and 1776, all the back to 1775 and 1776, all the worst droughts occurred before the industrial revolution . the industrial revolution. >> and this is gregory whitestone, right, right there occurring now . occurring now. >> you know, you can pick anybody like gregory, a whitestone, one person. no, i'm not universe and say, oh, he's come up with this, so i'll take that is gregory? hey. that one. who is gregory? hey. what? yeah, who is this guy who lives a cave somewhere and lives in a cave somewhere and writes this? >> and see, you do is

>> and you see, all you do is you argue with the you don't argue with the evidence ever. you don't argue with the evi> you're not arguing the evidence. evidence evidence. i've put evidence equallytell what i'll do. >> i'll tell you what i'll do. i'll you what i'll i'll i'll tell you what i'll do. i'll tell what wasn't asked to. tell you what i wasn't asked to. i didn't realise. you have to actually about so so actually talk about this. so so when the producer asked him next week come on to the program week to come on to the program and us a subject. all and gives us a subject. all right, this. right, we will do this. i'll actually you i'll bring actually bring you i'll bring you information from nasa. listen noah. listen from noah. >> no, you have to refute you listen from noah. >> nto you have to refute you listen from noah. >> nto refute ve to refute you listen from noah. >> nto refute what refute you listen from noah. >> nto refute what i'vete you listen from noah. >> nto refute what i've just»u have to refute what i've just claimed ipcc. you have to claimed from ipcc. you have to say, paul, you've already said it. said i've cherry picked it. you said i've cherry picked it. you said i've cherry picked it and distorted it. right. you have prove that because i am have to prove that because i am quoting reference . all the quoting the reference. all the viewers can see the reference on it and they can check anybody can go look this guy. can go and look at this guy. >> gregory yeah, that's right. >> gregory yeah, that's right. >> he can. tell me tell me >> he can. and tell me tell me your this guy. tell me any your study this guy. tell me any study droughts study that shows droughts increasing aren't. well, increasing, there aren't. well, listen. well, that's >> okay. well, that's a challenge for jim. one >> okay. well, that's a challenge forjim. one more next week, quite happily next week, challenge forjim. one more next we will|uite happily next week, challenge forjim. one more next we will bring|appily next week, challenge forjim. one more next we will bring in pily next week, challenge forjim. one more next we will bring in somethingeek, challenge forjim. one more next we will bring in something that he will bring in something that says the droughts are increasing, though the increasing, even though the reports from the ipcc appear to

say they're not. that's not say that they're not. that's not jim . well, that's the page jim dale. well, that's the page before. that's the page. gregory read page with ever read the page with nobody's ever heard no, no, no. heard of. no, no, no, no, no. this all this is all on the this is all this is all on the page well, listen, page before. yeah well, listen, that's, course jim dale that's, of course jim dale meteorology and social commentator and also paul burgess, climate scientist . yes, burgess, climate scientist. yes, right. well, they'll be back for another to head next week. another head to head next week. that's goes here on that's the way it goes here on gb it's not approaching 34 gb news. it's not approaching 34 minutes nana minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. live tv, online akua. we're live on tv, online and radio. on and on digital radio. on the way. political spotlight. way. it's political spotlight. my way. it's political spotlight. my tells his my guest this week tells his tale school with no tale of leaving school with no qualifications to becoming a millionaire. he's millionaire. of course, he's charlie mullins . but first, charlie mullins. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the liberal democrats are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached code breached the ministerial code by failing to declare £100 million payment to rwanda . it was sent payment to rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april on top of the

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nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. now this is one of my biggest, one of my favourite subjects. it's all about weight because britain's weight almost 100 weight problems cost almost 100 billion analysis billion a year. analysis suggests that prompting calls for crackdown on for a government crackdown on unhealthy and a drive to unhealthy food and a drive to promote fresh ingredients . and promote fresh ingredients. and tony blair, the tony blair institute . i'm always very institute. i'm always very dubious when i start talking about the costs have about him because the costs have soared from 58,000,000,000 in 20 20 to 98 billion. as the government's former adviser on food, henry dimbleby, said that the spiralling cost shows us that growing prevalence of people overweight weight people being overweight weight is absolute public health is an absolute public health disaster. well, joining me now to discuss is steve miller. he's the former presenter of fat families. used love that families. i used to love that show, steve. i used to love that show. he can't hear me. he can't hear me all. can't hear you. hear me at all. can't hear you. i hear you. oh, we can't i can hear you. oh, we can't hear us. a shame. anyway, hear us. that's a shame. anyway, i know you ever i don't know whether you ever used steve used to watch it, but steve olson presented secret eaters and people who and there was people who said, i don't why fat. i have don't know why i'm fat. i have noidea

don't know why i'm fat. i have no idea why i'm fat. and then a camera them and camera would film them and they'd hidden in they'd have cameras hidden in secret locations that they weren't they had weren't aware of. but they had agreed show, which agreed to do the show, which also included locations in their workplace , and they were filmed workplace, and they were filmed stuffing their faces . it was. stuffing their faces. it was. and the bottom line is , the and the bottom line is, the bottom is most people are bottom line is most people are overweight they too overweight because they eat too much. let's have a with much. but let's have a chat with steve presenter , steve miller, also presenter, former presenter of fat families, steve, why do you think that there is this big obesity problem? what is? because often say the because people often say the manufacturers labelling, because people often say the marthis:turers labelling, because people often say the marthis or'ers labelling, because people often say the marthis or that, labelling, because people often say the marthis or that, the labelling, the this or that, the advertising, there's too much sugarin advertising, there's too much sugar in things. why are people so fat ? so fat? >> oh, and aren't we board sick of all of this blame game? you know, we just want to blame everybody else for being ballooners . and frankly, the big ballooners. and frankly, the big elephant, excuse the pun in the room right now is culture. we have developed a society in this country that actually applauds people for being fat, celebrates people for being fat, celebrates people being fat, and that is

the big problem . the problem the big problem. the problem we've got is we're not straight talking enough about it. if you go to japan or if you go to south korea , for example, being south korea, for example, being fat is kind of frowned upon and they're brave and bold enough to put that message out to the public. don't get me wrong, it's not about being horrible and nasty to people all the time. i'm not suggesting that for one minute. but the problem is we've got double standards now , on the got double standards now, on the one hand, we're saying it's great to be slim because you're healthier and on the other hand, we've got this culture we've developed, which is frankly suggesting that, you know , oh, suggesting that, you know, oh, don't worry, you're not fat, you're just curvaceous. and we've got to let go. we've got to bring back some straight talking. and unfortunately, we're not doing it. and that's why it's costing us so much money, because if the government could sort of eliminate this

problem and we've we've had some of these wegovy , is that what of these wegovy, is that what it's called, the slimming , it's called, the slimming, slimming tablets and things like that, do you think that the government should get behind initiatives like that ? no, i'm initiatives like that? no, i'm not a big fan of these. you know, magic pills and magic fixes. and if you look at the jab, for example , well, what jab, for example, well, what you've got there is something that i would say is an absolute last resort. you go and look at the potential emphasise potential side effects . they're potential side effects. they're really concerning . i think we as really concerning. i think we as brits , we've not got to point brits, we've not got to point the finger at everybody else. we've got to start pointing the finger at ourselves and tell ourselves to own our body , start ourselves to own our body, start literally liquid eating the lard that we've built up ourselves, take personal responsibility. yes, seek support if you need it. but stop whinging and get on with it. that's the sort of speak we need . speak we need. >> but what about some of those food manufacturers? so, for example, there are, what, there

are 60 different names for sugan are 60 different names for sugar. they hide the word sugar in things like corn syrup and rice and rice starch and all these things. you don't realise that that's actually sugar, don't you think i get it that people know they shouldn't be eating certain things, but the manufacturers surely have got to hold their hands up as well. >> well, i think what we've got to just simplified to do is just simplified food labelling at labelling because if you look at food the shops, i food labels in the shops, i mean, you've got to have a degree in nutrition to understand frankly, if understand them. and frankly, if that putting one bottom, that means putting one bottom, one backside on food that's not that not that fattening , two that not that fattening, two backsies on food, that is a bit fattening, three backsies on food that makes you a right porker, then that's what we've got to do. we've got to get more emotive about it in terms of being straight with people because that's what motivates people. i've been doing this for helping people for over 20 years now, i can tell you what now, and i can tell you what it's not all about hearts and flowers blame game. it's flowers and blame game. it's getting people to own their body as well at the same time as

giving them support where needed . that's the key. one thing the government can do, though , is government can do, though, is actually partner the supermarket , work with the supermarkets to promote affordable mobility when it comes to healthy food, because one of the big excuses us brits love is that it's too expensive to eat well . well, expensive to eat well. well, actually, if you look deep , it's actually, if you look deep, it's cheapen actually, if you look deep, it's cheaper. it isn't. >> it isn't . steve miller, such >> it isn't. steve miller, such a pleasure to talk to you. thank you so much. that is steve miller formula presenter of fat families , fast approaching 46 families, fast approaching 46 after three nana akua. if you've just tuned in, welcome on board, but live on tv, online on but live on tv, online and on digital radio. but it is time now for this week's political spotlight . right now. my guest spotlight. right now. my guest this week left school at 15, but in 2021, sold the company he founded for £145 million. wow a classic rags to riches tale, of course. joining me to shine a light is charlie mullins, the founder of pimlico plumbers. charlie mullins, thank you so

much for joining charlie mullins, thank you so much forjoining me. nana wow, much for joining me. nana wow, fancy that. did you ever has your reality sort of superseded what you dreamt that you would be doing now? >> so yeah, well, for sure . >> so yeah, well, for sure. >> so yeah, well, for sure. >> i mean, i was just happy i was an apprentice plumber then, then a plumber and self—employed , thought that was it, really. >> em— w you know, opened up >> but then, you know, opened up the and we just went the company and we just went from strength to strength. the company and we just went frorand ength to strength. the company and we just went frorand enjustto strength. the company and we just went frorand enjust goesangth. the company and we just went frorand enjust goes to 1th. the company and we just went frorand enjust goes to show what >> and it just goes to show what an apprentice does for you kind of through then why >> talk me through then why was your company better than your company so much better than the others ? because you really the others? because you really i mean, made fortune 145 mean, you made a fortune 145 million. you can't spend that. i'm to . i'm trying to. >> don't worry about that. >> don't worry about that. >> but probably make >> but you probably make more interest spend . well, i interest than you spend. well, i don't i've spent a few don't know. i've spent a few quid. >> put it like that. >> put it like that. >> and obviously the charities, you as know, do you know, as you know, you do a lot charity work. you know, as you know, you do a lot yeah,|rity work. you know, as you know, you do a lot yeah,|rity v\0f(. you know, as you know, you do a lot yeah,|rity vlof shooting star hospice. >> we'd been helping them a lot. um, but yeah, it's. why was we successful? i think because the work ethics we had old fashioned work ethics we had old fashioned work ethics, you know, turn up for work, tidy, on for work, smart, tidy, be on time, , and give value time, be polite, and give value for money. and i think if you

employ the best, you are the best. >> what do you think then? because robert jenrick was talking earlier today, i don't know whether you this piece know whether you read this piece in and he was in the telegraph and he was basically we've basically saying that we've taken immigrant and taken on too many immigrant and it's difficult to then assimilate everything into the into the environment . and then into the environment. and then of course, you've got a lot of cheap labour well. what do cheap labour as well. what do you view on the you what's your view on the cheap labour and do you think we should on bringing in lots should carry on bringing in lots of to cheaper of immigrants to do the cheaper labour as of labour as some of the politicians wanting? >> we need to start training >> no, we need to start training our own people straight from school, straight into a government apprenticeship government funded apprenticeship schemesolves the skills shortage >> we solves the skills shortage , gets youth unemployment moving and gives people a future . so and gives people a future. so i think we need to concentrate over it. you know, i don't want to go down the immigration route and illegals and all that lot, but it's costing all the but it's costing us all the fortune of taxpayer and we just need to get back to old fashioned work and fashioned work ethics. and that's do. that's what we're going to do. you're probably to ask me, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're bably to ask me, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're going to ask me, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're going to to ask me, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're going to open ask me, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're going to open asia�*ne, that's what we're going to do. you�*we're going to open asia new but we're going to open up a new service we fix in service company called we fix in next year when the three years

clause is up and we'll be going back to all the old fashioned ideas of working and loads of apprentices because because the thing is, a lot of people are sort of looking at this and thinking that british people don't want to do the jobs anyway. >> this is what this is what you hear lot of the the hear a lot of the time. the british people don't want to do hear a lot of the time. the britjobs.3ople don't want to do hear a lot of the time. the britjobs. zople do n't want to do hear a lot of the time. the britjobs.;ople do you vant to do hear a lot of the time. the britjobs.;ople do you think) do the jobs. why do you think there seems sort of it seems to be some sort of it feels i don't know whether it's after covid or something happened a lot happened to the mindset of a lot of people. >> yeah. i mean, besides a lot of them are lazy. benefits of them are lazy. the benefits systems you know, systems too good. and you know, we're just looking after people for not contributing nothing to society and, you know, just working own from nonsense. oh, god . it's just ruined the god. it's just ruined the workplace . and, you know , i feel workplace. and, you know, i feel that. but youngsters , there's a that. but youngsters, there's a lot of youngsters do want to go to work. i speak to lots of them on these apprenticeships sort of situations and they're screaming out work. we've just got to out for work. we've just got to give an opportunity, give them an opportunity, give them look, them a future and look, look after that over after the people that are over here. >> but do you not think that the mindset shifted so mindset has shifted though? so although ethic although like our work ethic when younger, you do

when i was younger, you do whatever to build whatever it took to build whatever it took to build whatever that whatever you could so that eventually money eventually you'd have more money to that you wanted. to do the job that you wanted. and think that has sort and do you think that has sort of disappeared though? >> to certain yeah. >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mean, know, because you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew, know, because you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid know, because you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid and iv, because you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid and spend|use you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid and spend a;e you earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid and spend a few>u earn >> to a certain extent, yeah. i mfew quid and spend a few quid, n a few quid and spend a few quid, people thinking got people start thinking you've got to greedy that to be greedy and all that nonsense. ain't. mean, nonsense. you ain't. i mean, there's with there's nothing wrong with wanting your life wanting a better in your life and your sort of and improving your sort of situation. for many other situation. and for many other people , mean, employed people, i mean, we employed about people at the about 500 odd people at the other company . and, you know, other company. and, you know, it's helped a lot of people with a lot of things. and, you know, loads of apprentices come through. you've got through. so i think you've got to desire. you know, to have that desire. you know, there's wrong with with, there's nothing wrong with with, you earning loads of you know, earning loads of money, know, the people that money, you know, the people that want sit home get money, you know, the people that want benefits home get money, you know, the people that want benefits hom all get money, you know, the people that want benefits hom all that,t their benefits and all that, then , you know, they're the then, you know, they're the people are affecting people that are affecting the country. people that are affecting the countrythere that , you know, people there that, you know, can't go to work and, know , can't go to work and, you know, i sorry for them and i feel so sorry for them and they should more but they should get more money. but they should get more money. but the other lot, you know, the other lazy lot, you know, just go work. just need to go to work. >> does like there is >> that does feel like there is a attitude or. well, that's a lazy attitude or. well, that's it. yeah or just mindset that it. yeah orjust a mindset that now work isn't now actually work isn't as important was too many

important as it was too many people. actually can people. and actually you can have life you have quite a nice life if you just work well, it looks just don't work well, it looks like back to like it, but that's back to benefit systems. >> and you know, all this woke nonsense just allowing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to just allowing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to carry just allowing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to carry on, st allowing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to carry on, asallowing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to carry on, as they ing >> and you know, all this woke nonsen to carry on, as they say, people to carry on, as they say, carry on and, you know, i think we need get back to the old we need to get back to the old fashioned to work fashioned idea of going to work and a living. and, you and earning a living. and, you know, people can do well in the workplace. you know, i'm workplace. i mean, you know, i'm not going to say because i've done everyone do it. done it, everyone can do it. but, know, i come from but, you know, i come from a difficult you difficult background and, you know, that type of know, no money and that type of thing. people. but thing. like many people. but it's determination, it's all about determination, willpower and obviously believing in yourself. >> talk to me about this new >> so talk to me about this new venture that you're setting up next . next year. >> yeah. so we have a new company called we fix and that'll be a very elite sort of plumbing and heating company in the same areas , hopefully the same areas, hopefully for the same areas, hopefully for the customers as the same kind of customers as allegedly the other company not doing so well. i mean were you sold it now anyway haven't you. >> yeah, sold >> yeah, i've sold it. >> but know, according to >> but you know, according to what in the paper, what you read in the paper, they're bit and they're down quite a bit and i think marketplace has opened think the marketplace has opened up a and you know, up quite a lot. and you know, got four children and ten

grandchildren and wow . three grandchildren and wow. three great grandchildren, two more on the way. >> no. how old are you, charlie? you don't look enough. how you don't look old enough. how old 71. >> 71. >> 71. >> what you're f what you're 71? >> 70? what you're 71? >> 70? what you're 71? >> yeah . what did you think >> yeah. what did you think i was older? >> no, younger, wouldn't you? an older? i thought be older? no i thought you may be like might say 60, 59, 69. like you might say 60, 59, 69. no, no, no . somewhere in between no, no, no. somewhere in between sort of late 50s seconds. i wouldn't have even put you at 60. actually, to be fair. >> yeah, well, that's very kind of you, but, you know, 81, obviously. i can't work and always worked. and i think that keeps you sort of, you know, sort of healthy. and sort of proper healthy. and obviously, , as you can see. obviously, jim, as you can see. >> yeah. we can see that, >> yeah. yeah, we can see that, you know? >> yeah, it's just living >> so, yeah, it's just living the right well, not living the right lifestyle, obviously, you know, but know, i'm out and about, but in the just think the same time i just think work changes you so much and gives you of, you know, part of you a sort of, you know, part of society. you principles society. it gives you principles and, , i think, and, you know, i think, you know, said there's know, as i said before, there's nothing trying to nothing wrong with trying to better that's better your life. and that's what think. we've got get what i think. we've got to get the point over to many people because, know, they've got because, you know, they've got

all about all this nonsense about you drive car you do this drive this car and you do this and you know, it's and do that. you know, it's out there to and there for everyone to do. and obviously, smart and tired. i must your dress is stunning. >> oh, you like it? it's my christmas. i'm getting into the christmas. i'm getting into the christmas you there? christmas i didn't you there? no, . no, thank you. >> great, but i've >> it looks great, but i've noficed >> it looks great, but i've noticed all you lot here are very tidy and very presentable on the news. and a lot of on the on the news. and a lot of your guests are so thank you know, you are, though , are you know, you are, though, are you to say thank you so much. >> so what did you set up this new company because you were sort bored because when sort of bored because when you've all that money, what you've made all that money, what you've made all that money, what you know, like when you've got like million you've you know, like when you've got like i million you've you know, like when you've got like i known you've you know, like when you've got like i know you you've you know, like when you've got like i know you glots'e you know, like when you've got like i know you glots of work made. i know you do lots of work for charity. i mean, i went to a thing and charlie was just buying things right buying things left, right and centre thousands to centre just to give thousands to people well, well, people who are less well, well, i think i think that is, you know, part of me anyhow. >> and a lot people don't >> and a lot of people don't know side of it. and they know that side of it. and they say this nonsense, you say all this nonsense, you shouldn't what give shouldn't say what you give to charity, you need to charity, but i think you need to say so that people know and they help. shooting star say so that people know and they help my shooting star say so that people know and they help my favourite hooting star say so that people know and they help my favourite one. ng star say so that people know and they help my favourite one. butrtar say so that people know and they help my favourite one. but we do was my favourite one. but we do help quite a few. so

help quite a few. um, so i suppose the begging letters will be there. suppose the begging letters will be they there. suppose the begging letters will be they won't . suppose the begging letters will be they won't be. >> no, they won't be. no, i don't think people think don't think people i think people respectful and people are quite respectful and they hard you've worked they know how hard you've worked and people you and people don't you know that's, that's, know, you'll that's, that's, you know, you'll be you get some well be surprised you get some well not necessarily charitable you get some right pests come on like give me a few quid give like give me a few quid and give me know, and i'll me this and you know, and i'll write shall i. write my nail first shall i. >> no, need to go to >> no, but they need to go to work. these people. and that's true you know, true you know. but you know, i think very happy to able think i'm very happy to be able to that. and i'm going to to do that. and i'm going to continue doing it. you know, we've actually taken on with we've actually taken on the with shooting hospice to, you shooting star hospice to, you know, we're going to support them through the next company. well, listen, charlie, it's a pleasure to talk you. can pleasure to talk to you. can i just say one quick thing? >> quick, hang on. >> oh, quick, hang on. >> oh, quick, hang on. >> nigel's doing great. and i think it's i think it's a credit to everybody here. absolutely. and day long. and he's a winner all day long. >> wins. charlie >> i hope he wins. charlie mullins pleasure. mullins always a pleasure. thank you thank the time you so much. thank you. the time literally well. literally just went well. listen, i'll be listen, coming up, i'll be joined amazing panel joined by my amazing panel broadcast lizzie joined by my amazing panel broadctalso lizzie joined by my amazing panel broadctalso former lizzie joined by my amazing panel broadctalso former labour_izzie joined by my amazing panel broadctalso former labour party cundy, also former labour party adviser next, adviser matthew laza. but next, of is monologue on of course, is my monologue on obe and his revelations

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i'm nana akua and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines topics hitting the headlines right this show is all right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and course, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours we'll debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing, we will discussing, and at times we will disagree, no one will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy also former lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza . hello, darling. no single laza. hello, darling. no single shots, darling . sorry about shots, darling. sorry about that. before we get started , that. before we get started, let's get your latest news with sophia . sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 4:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . the lib dems are newsroom. the lib dems are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached the ministerial code by failing to declare £100 million payment to rwanda , for it was payment to rwanda, for it was sent to kigali in april on top of the 140 million already paid . of the 140 million already paid. that brings the total to £240 million. writing in the daily telegraph, former immigration minister robert jenrick has

warned rishi sunak rwanda bill does not go far enough. the times reports the rwanda legislation has been given only a 50% chance at best of successfully getting flights off the ground next year. greater manchester conservative chairman stephen carlton—woods says the stakes are high for the prime minister >> i think that rishi feels as though he might have egg on his face if he doesn't proceed with it. and it's all right. people say, oh well, the law, the we should sort of line your ducks up first to make sure that you, you going to get it you know, you're going to get it through but said through a court. but as i said earlier, it's untested law . so earlier, it's untested law. so there's to be an there's always going to be an interpretation of that in a different way. we've seen judges across the country have different interpreted versions of this anyway . of this anyway. >> former home secretary suella braverman says the uk's abstention from the un security council ceasefire vote is disappointing, noting the council ceasefire vote is disappointing , noting the ballot disappointing, noting the ballot that would allow aid into the enclave and people to flee was

vetoed by the united states. they stood alongside israel, saying the proposed resolution would only plant the seeds for the next war. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people in gaza amid fears of a humanitarian aid collapsing . thousands of people collapsing. thousands of people are marching through central london in a protest at the ongoing israel—hamas war. our reporter jack carson caught up with them outside parliament. it >> well, it's estimated 100,000 people took part in this pro—palestine march today as it ended up here at parliament square . now, the protest was square. now, the protest was mainly peaceful, but there were controversial chants from the river to the sea as well as chants calling israel a terrorist state. the demographic of the protest was very mixed from people very old to people very young . and we also know very young. and we also know people were bused in from around the country, including from bristol and including from birmingham well. here at birmingham as well. here at parliament we've had parliament square, we've had speeches of the speeches from members of the labour and other members

labour party and other members of palestinian solidarity of the palestinian solidarity campaign their calls for campaign as their calls for a ceasefire continue . ceasefire continue. >> members of multiple unions met today to argue against anti—strike laws after 18 months of industrial action, hundreds of industrial action, hundreds of thousands of workers have taken actions over pay and conditions . it says regulations conditions. it says regulations to ensure minimum levels of service came into force yesterday. this is the first time in 40 years the tuc assembly held a special national conference. tuc general secretary paul nowak says the strikes act is unfit for the modern day worker for going on strike is a basic protection that working people have relied on for generations . on for generations. >> but today we've got a tory government that feels threatened by that basic protection , even by that basic protection, even threatened by the organised working class , threatened by working class, threatened by workers having the temerity to stand up and their response reach out for that old thatcherite playbook, slap more

restrictions on unions , bully restrictions on unions, bully working people into keeping quiet . quiet. >> dozens of flights were unable to leave gatwick airport for a few hours today after a system outage passengers flying to and from the west sussex airport reported planes being delayed on the tarmac this morning . the the tarmac this morning. the airport has apologised for ongoing delays . court documents ongoing delays. court documents reveal the late queen wanted protection for the duke and duchess of sussex after they abstained from royal duties . an abstained from royal duties. an extract from a letter written by the late queen's private secretary sir edward young states it is imperative that the family continue to be provided with effective security. in a statement , prince harry with effective security. in a statement, prince harry said he feared for his family's safety and felt forced to leave the uk. he is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements . brace yourself for storm. ellen brings gale force winds

and heavy rain to the uk this weekend . the met office says the weekend. the met office says the midlands , northern england and midlands, northern england and northern ireland will see gusts of up to 70mph. parts of northern england could see up to 30mm of rain today, with a yellow warning in place stretching from carlisle to sheffield until 3:00 tomorrow morning. a separate rain warnings also cover northern ireland until 7:00 this evening. and parts of southern scotland until 9 pm. and five coastal homes in an erosion hit seaside community are being torn down today. demolition work begun on the clifftop homes in the village of hemsby in norfolk this morning. great yarmouth borough council said this decision was taken because the homes were not structurally sound and unsafe after high tides and strong winds have been eroding the cliff. the feeling locally has been fluctuating from extreme sadness to extreme anger. from extreme sadness to extreme anger . this is gb news from extreme sadness to extreme anger. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on

your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's return to . nana news now let's return to. nana >> good afternoon. thank you, sophia. it'sjust >> good afternoon. thank you, sophia. it's just coming >> good afternoon. thank you, sophia. it'sjust coming up >> good afternoon. thank you, sophia. it's just coming up to seven after 4:00. i'm nana akua . seven after 4:00. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv online and on digital radio now. it's been a dire week at the montecito towers. turns out that i was right. and endgame may in fact , right. and endgame may in fact, proved to be a premonition for amidst scabies and brand sussex , amidst scabies and brand sussex, as this week amid revealed what we all could see crystal clearly that he lied so after swearing on people's lives that he'd never sent a version with their names , the books available in a names, the books available in a number of languages. >> and unfortunately i can't speak dutch, so i haven't seen the copy for myself. >> but if there have been any translation errors, i'm sure the publishers got it under control for me. >> i edited and wrote the

engush >> i edited and wrote the english version. >> there's never been a version that i've produced that has names in it really see what he actually meant was that he had put the names in an earlier version of the manuscript. >> well, surprise , surprise. i >> well, surprise, surprise. i can't believe that he expected us to buy into the story that he didn't put the names in. i mean, that's just ridiculous. his book has plummeted further down. the book disastrous book charts in disastrous fashion. mean, stupid does fashion. i mean, how stupid does he think are? as if he think we are? as if a translator would randomly come out with the names of two royals who now implicated in the who are now implicated in the race or so—called unconscious bias row, please . or the scarf bias row, please. or the scarf has fallen off to reveal a gaping, lying wound . the gaping, lying wound. the revelations in the book had apparent had a dire effect on brand sussex , as the montecito brand sussex, as the montecito moaners have yet to come out to condemn it or disown it themselves from its contents . themselves from its contents. and it is now rumoured that meghan's a—list agent could be planning to scarper, deeming her too hot to handle and not in a good way. remember the damage spare did to both of them? it

may have been a fast seller and made them a load of money, but reputationally it didn't do them much good at all. and of course, this week , prince harry has lost this week, prince harry has lost his latest legal battle, which means newspaper can means that the newspaper can successfully in court that successfully argue in court that his team undertook a masterclass of spinning to mislead the pubuc of spinning to mislead the public about an offer he made to pay public about an offer he made to pay for his security. but despite all the duke's drama , despite all the duke's drama, the late queen's private security conveyed the queen's wishes. and apparently the safety of the couple was of paramount importance. and a letter published as part of the summary judgement contradicted the idea that the sussexes were cut off and forced to leave britain . i don't get it. i mean, britain. i don't get it. i mean, you've got the world at your feet and you mess it up so badly. in the meantime , it's badly. in the meantime, it's business as usual for the working royal family catherine, princess of wales, one of the people in the dutch. people named in the dutch. translation of omid's book, has continued to work and to look fabulous during her royal engagements , she was positively engagements, she was positively glowing in a stunning new

television advert promoting her christmas carol service at westminster abbey on christmas eve. i westminster abbey on christmas eve i bet westminster abbey on christmas eve. i bet the sussexes can't bear to watch that her children look blissful as far as premonitions go for the montecito monas and omid scobie , montecito monas and omid scobie, end game is proving to be just that. end game is proving to be just that . right? so before we get that. right? so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking is robert jenrick right? are there too many migrant to integrate? that's what he's saying. according to the former immigration robert immigration minister, robert jenrick migrants jenrick integrating migrants into society is impossible at the current numbers. now, the conservative mp resigned from the front bench after saying that rwanda treaty that rishi sunaks rwanda treaty didn't go far enough . then at didn't go far enough. then at 450 it's royal roundup time . 450 it's royal roundup time. joining me live, royal biographer angela levin will be here to give you the latest from behind the palace walls as harry's to libel gets harry's claim to libel gets

thrown of courts. have thrown out of courts. we'll have the latest on that. prince versus the home office . and stay versus the home office. and stay tuned now, 5:00. it's my difficult conversation . this is difficult conversation. this is an amazing guest, brianna ivy. now she'll be live to talk about her transition at age 31 and what she's doing to help others like her. you will not want to miss that . it's a frightening miss that. it's a frightening story , but it's one that you story, but it's one that you need to hear . story, but it's one that you need to hear. that's coming up in the next hour. aslef tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. all right, let's at. gb news. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel , former labour party to my panel, former labour party adviser matthew lazor, and also broadcast and columnist lizzie cundy. broadcast and columnist lizzie cundy . right. so let's start cundy. right. so let's start with you. lizzie cundy looking fabulous in that pink, by the way. i love you. i want to brighten us up on this very windy, gusty day. >> jealous ? are you jealous? you >> jealous? are you jealous? you can have it any time . have you can have it any time. have you seen shoes look subdued

seen the shoes look very subdued and very brown? and you're very brown? >> yes. you remind me. >> yes. you remind me. >> my history teacher, lizzie , >> my history teacher, lizzie, very proud. she's talking to me. >> well, yes . well, with scobie, >> well, yes. well, with scobie, i mean, it's not only his eyebrows that aren't real, it's everything he says. no, no, there aren't . yeah. no. were you shocked? >> why would you have them like that? if you could have fake ones? >> well, i don't know. you'd have to ask him that. whether you'll get straight answer is another thing. but the thing with this, mean, none of us with this, i mean, none of us were shocked. we all knew he gave names . the question were shocked. we all knew he gave names. the question is gave the names. the question is where? where did he get the names from ? now i have on names from? now i have on a authority from the royal household and no one would have given those names and no way would have king charles given those names, nor anyone else. there is only one person and we all know who it is. i'm really sorry. meghan markle has her fingerprints all over this. >> well, look, she's not here to defend herself. no, the bottom line is. but they have not condemned it, which is her agent

is concerned about by the sound of these rumours. of it. these are the rumours. and these rumours end and a lot of these rumours end up out true after up turning out to be true after a so matthew laza, a while. so matthew laza, what do this ? so scobie's do you make of this? so scobie's has come out and told us what we all knew. >> yeah, look, i think the first thing does is he needs to thing he does is he needs to apologise. offer apologise. he needs to offer a total apology the poor dutch total apology to the poor dutch translator . translator. >> person that i feel >> he's the person that i feel most for in all of this. most sorry for in all of this. >> he literally lied as far as we can see, because he's now a pastry chef. he's admitted, he admitted he's lied. >> know, this you know, >> so, you know, this you know, this dutch translator , i'm this poor dutch translator, i'm sure not paid a fortune to translate his fine words of engush translate his fine words of english into dutch. >> and he's just ghostwritten. >> and he's just ghostwritten. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> it's just been he's been the translator is literally he being you know from great you know what from a great height just really height and that just really disturbs height and that just really disturtl the first thing he >> so i think the first thing he needs do is apologise needs to do is apologise directly to translator and get his out. his chequebook out. >> should >> well, perhaps he should apologise king also apologise to the king and also catherine, because should catherine, because that should be second it's be second because it's unacceptable. first of all, they have no defence against that and he knows that . absolutely. he knows that. absolutely. >> he's exploited that,

>> and he's exploited that, hasn't really worked, >> but it hasn't really worked, though, actually though, because actually every time she looks time i see catherine, she looks more than ever, more magnificent than ever, doesn't fabulous, really. doesn't she is fabulous, really. >> i mean, to say, i mean >> i mean, i have to say, i mean i her last week at the i saw her last week at the royal albert ovation. albert hall, standing ovation. everyone god save the everyone singing god save the king and they all applauded her. she looked radiant. never she looked radiant. i've never seen better . and in seen her look better. and in fact, for scobie and meghan markle , you know, markle and prince of, you know, the law courts, because he's never out of court at the minute shaun bailey prince of the old bailey. it's really, you know, whatever they're trying to do is working against them. and catherine, can i say that is the way to be a royal? i've never seen anyone you know, she looks so beautiful while doing her royal effortlessly. not royal duty effortlessly. not a hair out of place. well done to her. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> he's having the reverse effect, isn't he? yeah, of what? what i say he he they may be because we know the power behind his his writing desk. >> but that's having the exact opposite effect because you know i'm not the number one fan of the concept of a royal family. but say that since

but i have to say that since the accession we've had an absolutely fantastic display of dignity with a huge provocation. so this is the second, not the first shot across the bow . first shot across the bow. >> so, you know, it's making the royal family more popular and making the sussexes look ever more isolated. >> but scobie, as a journalist who can ever take him seriously now and i'm sure he's made a few quid from this book has actually gone down. but yes , as i said, gone down. but yes, as i said, well, it's not doing well. it's going half price already. well, it's not doing well. it's going half price already . and going half price already. and i'm , you know, i said i'm afraid, you know, i said last week, the truth rises to the top. absolutely. and i'm embarrassed for him. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean , clearly he's he's >> i mean, clearly he's he's finished isn't he? finished now, isn't he? >> because nobody's going to listen anything says after listen to anything he says after he's not having told he's admitted not having told the truth. >> so meghan's going to have to find another mouthpiece . find another mouthpiece. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> going to find >> she's going to have to find somebody else to breathe. >> it'sjust somebody else to breathe. >> it's just terrible. somebody else to breathe. >> it'sjust terrible. it's >> it's just terrible. it's embarrassing. >> it's just terrible. it's emiquite sing. >> it's just terrible. it's emiquite embarrassing. but it's quite embarrassing. but i think it's also the publishing industry look this and industry should look at this and think, are publishing >> why are they publishing something which is so flimsy and, you know, has so little and, you know, and has so little gravitas quality about it?

gravitas and quality about it? >> do you think that perhaps they themselves selves should actually the palace actually because the palace could sue them really ? i mean, could sue them really? i mean, they could, but they won't. but they could, but they won't. but they could. and actually, i would to see them do that. would like to see them do that. to make an example of this, because think that would stop because i think that would stop it. i think, them it. it's time for, i think, them to and make example. i to act and make an example. i really do think so, because i think it's important and it's for journalists, for any for all journalists, for any publications, you're publications, whether you're writing , you need to writing something, you need to try and sure it is of try and make sure that it is of the utmost accuracy and that you've all you've been through all the checks and balances, because otherwise of otherwise you lose the trust of the are reading what the people who are reading what you're the people who are reading what youand the moment, that's, >> and at the moment, that's, you know, ensuring there's you know, ensuring that there's trust more trust in public life is more important than ever. trust in public life is more imfso ant than ever. trust in public life is more imfso there an ever. trust in public life is more imfso there an a ver. trust in public life is more imfso there an a strong case for >> so there is a strong case for them doing it. >> interesting that >> and it's interesting that they they're not they haven't said they're not going to or made it be, let it be known, which normally be known, which is what normally happens circumstances. be known, which is what normally happens we circumstances. be known, which is what normally happenswe haven't'cumstances. instead, we haven't had. >> think charles will >> but i think king charles will win of the win the whole support of the pubuc win the whole support of the public if he if he public with this if he if he were to. you can't just say things willy nilly about people and call them alleged racist. one you can one of the worst things you can call he's call someone. yeah, i think he's every he'd have all

every right to and he'd have all the public support and i really can why prince william so can see why prince william is so angry brother for letting angry at his brother for letting this happen. how disgraceful to his wife. and it has a knock on effect to all the other family members . you know, harry should members. you know, harry should hold his head in shame. i mean, embarrassed of him really am. and i shame , you know, it's such and i shame, you know, it's such a shame. let's not forget, a shame. and let's not forget, prince his mother , prince william lost his mother, too. yeah. know, and he's too. yeah. you know, and he's been lot. too. yeah. you know, and he's bee it's lot. too. yeah. you know, and he's bee it's a lot. too. yeah. you know, and he's bee it's a shame.ot. too. yeah. you know, and he's bee it's a shame because they had >> it's a shame because they had a wonderful platform. yes. and even if you if i'm given a wonderful platform, if somebody says something racist to me, i don't take any notice. even if it's coming from all sides, because i want to show people, okay, you can say that, but this is who i am. that positivity, and i'm going to grow and show you. can judge you. absolutely. you can judge me of skin if me by the colour of my skin if you but fool you. you you like, but more fool you. you know, should raise your know, you should raise your game. you should bring it up. >> i think you said it perfectly in monologue nana you in your monologue nana that you said at their said they had the world at their feet. absolutely. they feet. absolutely. i mean, they literally had the sort of greatest that anybody greatest platform that anybody could wish for. and they just wasted opportunity .

wasted that opportunity. >> tell us that >> you know, they tell us that they about causes. they care about causes. >> well, moment, nobody's >> well, at the moment, nobody's listening. mean, they're not listening. i mean, they're not doing anything very much on their nobody's their causes. and b, nobody's listening it's their causes. and b, nobody's listabout it's their causes. and b, nobody's listabout this it's their causes. and b, nobody's listabout this noises it's their causes. and b, nobody's listabout this noises off. it's their causes. and b, nobody's listabout this noises off. so s all about this noises off. so they've completely thrown that away. >> @ said, dana, they away. >> said, dana, they did >> as you said, dana, they did have world at their feet and have the world at their feet and all they was whinge and moan all they did was whinge and moan and scored own goal and they scored an own goal about and everyone. about everything. and everyone. and nearest and and to their nearest and dearest. and don't forget , king dearest. and don't forget, king charles walked her down. the aisle. yes. you know how she had everyone from that moment where she captured the nation's heart to where it seems? >> what i find particularly distasteful. it's like you're trying to divide our society. see, though trying to divide our society. see,wants though trying to divide our society. see,wants to though trying to divide our society. see,wants to sort though trying to divide our society. see,wants to sort of though trying to divide our society. see,wants to sort of sayiough trying to divide our society. see,wants to sort of say that| she wants to sort of say that all british are racist, all british people are racist, which obviously absolutely all british people are racist, whici obviously absolutely all british people are racist, whici obyknowyabsolutely all british people are racist, whici obyknow whetherely all british people are racist, whici obyknow whether she's not. i don't know whether she's trying that not. trying to do that or not. >> don't get what she's >> i don't really get what she's trying. yeah, maybe i'm oversubscribed. her oversubscribed. you know, in her defence, probably say that defence, she probably say that she's trying live and she's just trying to live and she's just trying to live and she overwhelmed in a sense she felt overwhelmed in a sense of racism. maybe there was that, but i just. i don't. i haven't seen it. i i'm very, very dark. although i'm the lightest in my

family . family. >> teeth are very bright . >> teeth are very bright. >> teeth are very bright. >> my brother was very, very dark . my older brother, he's no dark. my older brother, he's no longer with us, but he would always say to me, i'm the colour of coal. and would always say of coal. and he would always say to he's too dark for tv to me that he's too dark for tv because be able to because they'd never be able to license. would license. that's what he would say. he was he was say. and he was he was wonderful. he was a wonderful the opposite problem, something wonderful. he was a wonderful the opmaking roblem, something wonderful. he was a wonderful the opmaking ronas|, something wonderful. he was a wonderful the opmaking ronas nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the about|king ronas nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the about race.ronas nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the it out race.ronas nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the it out race to was nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the it out race to dos nothing1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the it out race to do abouting1ing wonderful. he was a wonderful the it out race to do about noting >> it was all to do about not being top dog. she was never going to be above, you know, dear princess kate. and knew dear princess kate. and she knew that. sadly for her, that. and that's sadly for her, was her downfall. she was jealous. >> yeah. and you know, but again, like i said, she would say that she wasn't treated with respect. and when there were comparisons against her and kate, always seemed to be kate, it always seemed to be that favoured kate. that the press favoured kate. that's saying. that's what she was saying. but i remember we i can remember the time. we don't the press. i can don't control the press. i can remember times where they remember the times where they were about kate, were horrible about kate, for god's and god's sake. and camilla and fergie and diana. >> i mean, they used to be so horrible to camilla and she has captured heart. captured the nation's heart. >> anything, the >> if anything, they've been the nicest to her. they've been to any i mean, i'm friends any of the i mean, i'm friends with ferguson remember

with sarah ferguson and remember their duchess of pork? >> not horrible >> they were not horrible constant. definitely constant. you definitely couldn't say sarah ferguson. meghan never would have meghan would never would have coped that. and it wasn't right. >> she wasn't there in the tabloids. i mean, you know, in >> she wasn't there in the tab|80s. i mean, you know, in >> she wasn't there in the tab|80s andiean, you know, in >> she wasn't there in the tab|80s and 90s, you know, in >> she wasn't there in the tab|80s and 90s, the know, in >> she wasn't there in the tab|80s and 90s, the tabloids the 80s and 90s, the tabloids were a way . they were ferocious in a way. they just aren't now and used to reflect. >> there needs to be a real sincere apology and head in your hands. >> genuinely like to see them hands. >> be enuinely like to see them hands. >> be happy ly like to see them hands. >> be happy and> be happy and> i'm going happen >> i'm not going to happen this yeah >> i'm not going to happen this year. to my breath. >> listen, if you're just joining us, welcome. it's coming up 20 minutes after 4:00. i'm up to 20 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana is gb news. nana akua. this is gb news. coming royal roundup coming up, it's royal roundup time. live time. angela levin will be live to the latest from to give you the latest from behind palace walls. but up behind the palace walls. but up next, great next, it's time for the great british debate. hour. and british debate. this hour. and i'm robert jenrick i'm asking is robert jenrick right? there too many right? are there too many migrants ? kate, migrants to integrate? kate, i've pull up now on i've got to pull up right now on x you that very question x asking you that very question is robert jenrick right? are there migrants there too many migrants to integrate? send me your thoughts. email and gb thoughts. email gb views and gb news. tweet me at

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bnngin even be contentious that you bring in 1.2 million people every year, new records and no reduction in sight, every year, new records and no reduction in sight , really, reduction in sight, really, especially after the conservative party have announced this reduction. but they aren't changing the legal mechanisms which blocked the last few reductions. but point aside that we've had more migration from the norman conquest to the second world war in the last 25 years and then we're asking whether or not we're asking whether or not we're going to have social problems. mind problems. i mean, never mind that now number one that britain is now number one in europe and number four in the for committed by for world crimes committed by people origin . never people of foreign origin. never mind spending mind that we are spending 5 million a day on illegal asylum seeker hotels, never mind that nearly 50% of social housing in london is taken up by people of non british born . the idea that non british born. the idea that there wouldn't be cultural incompatibilities alongside these economic challenges is confusing to me. so of course there are far too many migrants currently to help fully integrate. for them to be seeing themselves as british as you or me. >> it's interesting , but aren't >> it's interesting, but aren't you frightened that somebody

might racist for might call you a racist for saying you know, saying that because you know, i know you're pointing out facts, but you know what it's like these out facts these days. you point out facts like labelled . like that and you get labelled. >> no, because they're probably just lying. i'm not concerned. i'm more concerned about whether or not the high street around me is deteriorating into a series of businesses that i don't want to shop in or that i don't recognise because of a bunch of people turned up in the last couple of years and transformed the that in the place that i lived in without wanting live in without me wanting to live in it. i didn't mention race at all. so if they call me that, i don't care. but i bet don't really care. but i bet it's expense. >> you think ? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> think mr jenrick >> what do you think? >> think mrjenrick is broadly >> i think mrjenrick is broadly right. it's unprecedented. the numbers that are being discussed , being integrated into any kind of society throughout history without there being some major, major teething problems . but i major teething problems. but i think actually broadly, the point has been missed, which is mr jenrick is suggesting that it would impossible to integrate would be impossible to integrate these people based on idea these people based on the idea that the outcome that that is the desired outcome anyway. actually, i

anyway. actually, the record, i think the tory government and think of the tory government and the labour government before it were completely honest were being completely honest has not integrating. not been about integrating. they're in they're not interested in integrating what they see these people purely source people as is purely as a source of there has been the of labour. there has been the view amongst policy makers in this country for a very long time that britain is not a nafion time that britain is not a nation britain is nation state. britain is a market place, part of a larger global marketplace. that global marketplace. but that actually market actually what serves the market is above all what is is sort of above all what is desired and that's in the short term, not in the long term what serves market. and serves the market. and so actually, i think the idea of integrating people slightly integrating people has slightly fallen by wayside. know, fallen by the wayside. you know, practically speaking, is it possible perhaps it might be possible perhaps it might be possible in a country with far larger in larger resources already in place do so, but we don't place to do so, but we don't have if you look at have those. and if you look at just earlier this week, it was reported that the country is failing recruit enough failing to recruit enough secondary school teachers. i think last year we managed to recruit the number of recruit half the number of people that we would need to in order you've seen order to keep pace. you've seen over couple months over the last couple of months and weeks of the onset and weeks the sort of the onset of of young people of anti—semitism of young people on demonstrations across london

and elsewhere. a lot of those people have been born in the uk, but are of migrant but they are of migrant backgrounds. where are they learning not learning this? they're not learning this? they're not learning the schools. learning it in the schools. they're from their they're learning it from their own own own cultures, from their own parents. have the parents. we do not have the resources of stamp that resources to sort of stamp that out, speak, but if out, so to speak, but also, if we're being completely honest, what british? what what is it to be british? what is to integrated? lot of is it to be integrated? a lot of our in this country do is it to be integrated? a lot of our really in this country do is it to be integrated? a lot of our really have s country do is it to be integrated? a lot of our really have muchitry do is it to be integrated? a lot of our really have much of' do is it to be integrated? a lot of our really have much of an» is it to be integrated? a lot of our really have much of an idea, not really have much of an idea, nor they want an they nor do they want an idea. they have set it up as an idea that it racist sort of revert it is racist to sort of revert to of nationhood. if you to ideas of nationhood. if you are part of the constituency thatis are part of the constituency that is already here. but they're more than happy to promote ideas of multicol naturalism in order to persuade more people to here. the more people to come here. the idea you don't actually idea that you don't actually have british have to adhere to british values, you don't have to adhere to british ideals. you are more than to come and than welcome to come here and retain own retain great swathes of your own culture and that actually that is a way of importing more people because as i say, integrating isn't the key point. getting bodies through the door is important bit for a lot is the important bit for a lot of these people. >> let's see henry >> well, let's see what henry henry what you make henry bolton, what do you make

of yeah, then jenrick is >> yeah, then robert jenrick is correct. it's much of a correct. it's not much of a debate it sort of agreeing in debate as it sort of agreeing in a sense. but one thing that i think very important point to think is very important point to make very important make that's very, very important is is not right wing or is that it is not right wing or extremist or racist it to express concerns as to whether or not the country can provide the infrastructure and has got the infrastructure and has got the social resilience s to absorb the sort of numbers of immigrants that we're seeing thatis immigrants that we're seeing that is purely responsible for every single politician , every every single politician, every single community leader, every single community leader, every single police officer, every every member of any nhs foundation, trust any of these people should be seriously concerned about providing the infrastructure for and the social resilience that this or deaung social resilience that this or dealing with the pressure that this level of immigration puts on. it just as an example, we're talking about over the last two years, more immigration net immigration of more than twice the population of the city of

bristol, bristol has 13 police stations. its police stations. it has . 136 schools, secondary it has. 136 schools, secondary schools . it primary schools. schools. it primary schools. forgive me, it has six hospitals. and now we have not in this country produced twice, twice that in that period of time. we can't keep up with it. it's simply not possible. and in terms of the cultural integration, when you have i think it was about 3 or 4 years ago, the assistant deputy commissioner of the metropolitan police, i forgive me again , i police, i forgive me again, i can't remember his name, stated on national television that muslims should not be required to integrate into british society. so you know, if we've got . got. >> so sorry. >> so sorry. >> what did he say? he said muslims should not be required to integrate into british society. >> it was on national television and saying that now when you've got figures as that got leading figures such as that saying such things, then you end up of course, you end up with with divisions within society , with divisions within society, you end up with different

communities living separate lives and well , that's that's multiculturalism. >> is it ? >> is it? >> is it? >> well, that is multiculturalism . multiculturalism. >> it's a patchwork, but multicultural ism, in my view, should be where people actually live together, accepting people. it should not be about highlighting differences. >> the definition of >> that's not the definition of multiculturalism in a multiculturalism in a multicultural would be multicultural society. would be that. multiculturalism is that. but multiculturalism is actually different actually all those different cultures own cultures in their own little cultural that's how cultural bubble. and that's how we seem to be rolling at the moment. so in a word, yes or no, then i'm going to start with you, is right then? is you, henry. is he right then? is robert jenrick right? yes, he's entirely or entirely correct. conor, yes or no? right? he's very correct. >> i just wish he have >> i just wish he would have done something it. done something about it. >> would have been >> yeah, that would have been good. in power for a good. they'd been in power for a while. benedict spence. >> well, the other two >> yeah, well, the other two said been nice if said it would have been nice if the actually the last 13 years had actually seen done about it seen something done about it rather than just tories waiting until an election until there was an election cycle thinking it. >> all right, so it's all yeses by looks of it, what do by the looks of it, but what do you home? i mean, what you think at home? i mean, what are thank so are your thoughts? thank you so much to commentators, much to my commentators, benedict and also conor benedict spence and also conor tomlinson, and also security and border international expert

henry . thank you so much. henry bolton. thank you so much. right. let's a quick look right. let's have a quick look at you've saying, at what you've been saying, because lots of you got in touch, but on that. touch, but not just on that. let's see, because obviously i did a monologue earlier and rob let's see, because obviously i did eperhaps gue earlier and rob let's see, because obviously i did eperhaps having'lier and rob let's see, because obviously i did eperhaps having his and rob let's see, because obviously i did eperhaps having his money,b says perhaps having his money, this is about obe scobie. this is scobie's way of getting out from the poison from meghan. do you think he has got a brain of his own, though he could do his own maybe. maggie says own stuff. maybe. maggie says you might care, but this you might not care, but this book people and book is damaging people and their . whether their reputations. whether you like not, they too like the royals or not, they too are and by having your are people. and by having your attitude, you let the nasty bullies meghan and harry and scobie to damage an unfair and having your attitude. do you mean me? maggie i think on mean me? maggie i think we're on the side . and then milo's the same side. and then milo's says many people now think that meghan deliberately scobie meghan deliberately told scobie to names in the to include those names in the amsterdam because she amsterdam book. why? because she could harry and charles were could see harry and charles were taking were talking again and making this does making up for meghan. this does not narrative to have not suit her narrative to have harry with his family. harry making up with his family. do that maybe. i don't do you think that maybe. i don't know. anyway , listen, thanks do you think that maybe. i don't kncyour anyway , listen, thanks do you think that maybe. i don't kncyour thoughts. , listen, thanks do you think that maybe. i don't kncyour thoughts. keepzn, thanks do you think that maybe. i don't kncyour thoughts. keep theminks for your thoughts. keep them coming you're me. i'm nana coming. you're with me. i'm nana akua is gb we're live

akua this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is robert jenrick right? are there too integrate? too many migrants to integrate? you'll thoughts of my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, and also panel, lizzie cundy and also matthew come, matthew lazar. still to come, though, my difficult conversation. now, amazing conversation. now, the amazing briana ivey will be live in the studio with me to talk about her transition her life. but transition and her life. but first, let's get your latest news with sophia . news with sophia. >> thank you, nana. >> thank you, nana. >> it's 433. >> it's 433. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . a 16 year old boy has newsroom. a 16 year old boy has been charged with the murder of leon gordon , who was shot dead leon gordon, who was shot dead in east london on tuesday evening . the boy has also been evening. the boy has also been charged with the attempted murder of a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy. he was also charged with possession of a firearm and possession with intent to supply class a drugs . intent to supply class a drugs. he will appear at barkingside magistrate court on monday.

he will appear at barkingside magistrate court on monday . the magistrate court on monday. the lib dems are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached the ministerial code by failing to declare a £100 million payment to rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april on top of the £140 million already paid . that million already paid. that bnngs million already paid. that brings the total to 240 million. writing in the daily telegraph former immigration minister robert jenrick has warned rishi sunak rwanda bill does not go far enough . the times reports far enough. the times reports the rwanda legislation has been given only a 50% at best chance of successfully getting flights off the ground next year. former home secretary suella braverman says the uk's abstention from the un security council ceasefire vote is disappointing. the ballot that would allow aid into the enclave and people to flee was vetoed by the united states . they stood alongside states. they stood alongside israel saying the proposed resolution would only plant the seeds for the next war. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people

in gaza amid fears of humanitarian aid collapse ing thousands of people are marching through central london in protest at the ongoing israel—hamas war. the met police have arrested a man on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence for allegedly displaying a placard comparing israel to nazi germany . the israel to nazi germany. the march will make its way along the river thames and meet outside parliament square. police are maintaining strict rules around the demonstration , rules around the demonstration, including a hard curfew to complete the rally by 5 pm. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now it's back to . nana >> thank you. sophia 36 after four. i'm nana o'quinn coming up, royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio to give the latest from behind the palace walls in royal roundup. but up next, it's time

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>> gb news choose. 41 minutes after 4:00. >> welcome back . if you've just >> welcome back. if you've just tuned in, welcome on board. i'm nana akua. let's it's time now for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is robert jenrick right? are there too many migrants to integrate now quitting the now after quitting the frontbench , the immigration frontbench, the immigration minister another crushing minister dealt another crushing blow prime minister blow to the prime minister when saying that rwanda saying that the new rwanda treaty didn't go far enough and now he's hit out at the record high immigration numbers. he says at the levels that they currently it is impossible currently are, it is impossible to integrate migrants into society . so for the great society. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking is robert jenrick right? are there many migrants to are there too many migrants to integrate into society? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by labour i'm joined now by former labour adviser laza and also adviser matthew laza and also broadcaster columnist lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. i'll come cundy. matthew laza, i'll come to first. what you make to you first. what do you make of that? and we know that they've been in power for 30 years. oh, i know you're going to this . to say this. >> yeah, think actually >> yeah, look, i think actually this this goes this is this goes beyond politics think need politics because i think we need to have a sensible discussion as

a about migration and a country about migration and about integration as well, because i think it's i'm glad he's raised this today because integration actually a big integration was actually a big theme under the labour theme under the last labour government , because really, government, because really, because remember when there were there were a series of riots in there were a series of riots in the of england was the north of england and it was about report that said the north of england and it was abc had report that said the north of england and it was abchad separateeport that said the north of england and it was abchad separate butt that said the north of england and it was abchad separate but equal said we had separate but equal societies and, and i don't think there was a big debate. i'm not sure they reached the right absolute conclusions . and i absolute conclusions. and i think clearly, when you've got 700,000 year coming in 700,000 people a year coming in legally, that's before we take into the illegal into account the illegal migrants, then that is very hard into account the illegal miabsorb.then that is very hard into account the illegal miabsorb. people at is very hard into account the illegal miabsorb. people like very hard into account the illegal miabsorb. people like that.�*|ard into account the illegal miabsorb. people like that. and to absorb. people like that. and i think particularly one of the interesting things about the migration 700,000 migration in that 700,000 is that half are that almost half of it are dependants and often they're dependents might not have engush dependents might not have english skills because english language skills because if come here to work, if people come here to work, they to have at they tend to have to have at least minimum of english least a minimum level of english to do those jobs. but to be able to do those jobs. but there isn't any sort of english language test or for if they're bringing with them. and language test or for if they're bricourse, with them. and language test or for if they're bricourse, i with them. and language test or for if they're bricourse, i that:h them. and language test or for if they're bricourse, i that those n. and of course, i worry that those people home, they people get stuck at home, they get they're not get isolated, they're not working they're not working because they're not necessarily some

necessarily it's obviously some are, the are, but some aren't in the labour i think that's are, but some aren't in the lab> he wanted votes. let's be honest. they can't. this is a myth because they vote, myth because they can't vote, though let me just though it isn't. but let me just say worry. there's say it is a worry. look, there's scary the net scary figures. the net migration, i was shocked migration, i mean, i was shocked at figures we're only a at at the figures we're only a small island. we're bursting at the and it has a knock on the seams and it has a knock on effect with everything from getting a hospital appointment, a , your a doctor appointment, your schools, social schools, everything. social housing and cultural differences . look, when i was trying to get in the other week with the protests, seeing people actually on war memorials sitting on the war memorials sitting there, not really understanding how sacred they are. and the differences. and i'm afraid with

these numbers, we can't keep going on as we are. but some people would argue that with the labour shortage that we have and the fact that we need people to do the jobs, it would appear do the jobs, and it would appear that is just some that this is just what some people british people may say, that british people may say, that british people want to do the jobs. >> who are to get to do >> who are we going to get to do them don't people from them if we don't use people from other because you other countries? because you know, a lot of know, there are a lot of vacancies we have to we have vacancies and we have to we have to own. to train our own. >> there are too many >> and there are too many on benefits. honest. benefits. let's be honest. there's million on benefits. there's 5 million on benefits. and you know, do and i know a lot, you know, do need the benefits, disabled or other reasons . but there are a other reasons. but there are a lot that shouldn't be on benefits. them back to work. benefits. get them back to work. >> but even if that is a tiny fraction i would say fraction even and i would say that majority of people that the majority of people on benefits, say benefits, i would say are genuine people who need the benefits. that's my benefits. that's that's just my view. will be people view. there will be people who often of often take advantage of situations , i situations like this, but i think of people think the majority of people on benefits on the benefits need to be on the benefits need to be on the benefits . and lots of benefits. and there's lots of people who are working. you are in as well, is in in work benefits as well, is that they create the larger portion. but so there's a bigger problem portion. but so there's a bigger pr

who don't want to leave the home. >> but through covid and the lockdown crisis, there are many that don't want to get out there nana and work. and it's really important, i think what you're saying nana is vital. >> absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. i think it's valuing people do it's about valuing people who do things we've things like social care. we've got society, you know, got an ageing society, you know, i think we all know from personal experience had personal experience we've had family no family members and there's no more a sense more important job in a sense than a care home or than working in a care home or in other care setting and being with older people towards the end their and end of their lives. and so i think to make sure that think we need to make sure that there careers there are sustainable careers for sectors. for people in those sectors. a they're paid correctly, b, they're paid correctly, b, they're correctly, they're treated correctly, and c, opportunities c, that there's opportunities for and development for progression and development within and that within those. and i think that hasn't always been the case and we need to make sure so we need to make sure it is so is robert then in robert jenrick right then in your view? i think it is very hard to integrate 700,000 legal migrants a year. it is the highest clearly it is highest ever and clearly it is it is causing a big problem , not it is causing a big problem, not least if nothing least on housing, if nothing else. you're a labour man. else. but you're a labour man. >> keir starmer never mentioned anything about it. no. and he should anything about it. no. and he shoand i think that labour does >> and i think that labour does have in immigration. >> and i think that labour does have them in immigration. >> and i think that labour does have them actuallygration. >> and i think that labour does have them actually isation. >> and i think that labour does have them actually is the|. >> and i think that labour does have them actually is the one

one of them actually is the one the tories adopted this the tories have adopted this week, making sure week, which is making sure that people are coming in people who come in are coming in at the average. you're claiming this yours? well, was this one as yours? well, it was actually it it was actually it was, it was it was a labour policy, didn't labour policy, but they didn't talk enough. and why? >> matthew because when everyone asked him, even anyone asked him, even asking anyone from labour about the rwanda, you know, you don't get a straight answer. why did he never labour never mention it at the labour conference biggest, conference party? the biggest, most people most important thing that people ask whole time is about ask me, the whole time is about migration. agree . he didn't migration. i agree. he didn't even about it. migration. i agree. he didn't evei about it. migration. i agree. he didn't evei agree|bout it. migration. i agree. he didn't evei agree forrt it. migration. i agree. he didn't evei agree for him. you know, >> i agree for him. you know, sadly, i didn't write that speech because if i had, it would have had immigration in it. because it's hindsight. you know, i wish i wasn't know, i didn't i wish i wasn't given the wasn't wasn't wasn't tasked with that. but what i think is vitally important is that labour doesn't shy away from talking about this because the people at the front end are labour voters in working class communities. well, listen, this is your views. >> let's welcome great >> let's welcome our great british there british voice. is there opportunity on show british voice. is there opp

map. darn it, lee map. again, darn it, lee harrison, maps just harrison, bristol, the maps just i what's gone with it. >> you h- h— >> you don't need the map. >> you don't need the map. >> i want the map, though. i want the map. this is the problem, lee. all right, go on then. what do make of this? then. what do you make of this? is right? is generic, right? >> is. absolutely right. >> yes, he is. absolutely right. immigration too high. immigration is way too high. >> and i congratulate him for resigning on a point of principle. >> i mean, unlike rishi sunak, he willing to stand up for he is willing to stand up for the british people . yougov the british people. yougov polling that are polling shows that are consistent . 60% of the british consistent. 60% of the british pubuc consistent. 60% of the british public also think that the immigration numbers are way too high. but, you know, to just be clear, i pro controlled clear, i am pro controlled immigration. if you have the skills we need , work hard, skills we need, work hard, contribute to the economy . contribute to the economy. immigration can be a very good thing . but as lizzie and matthew thing. but as lizzie and matthew rightly pointed out, we simply do not have the infrastructure in place to support these astral comical numbers. we need to build more houses, schools, hospitals , gps, and it's simply hospitals, gps, and it's simply not sustain viable. you know, i voted for brexit to end free

movement and replace it with a much fairer and more sensible points based system that allows us to target skills and importantly , we control the importantly, we control the numbers and what i find they haven't done find utterly unacceptable is the tories have not used the tools that we've given them . you know, they're given them. you know, they're not targeting skills, we're controlling the numbers and they've done nothing meaningful to stop illegal immigration ehhen to stop illegal immigration either. well, listen , we could either. well, listen, we could go on about what they haven't done, but that would take the whole show. >> going to stop there >> so i'm going to stop it there . lee harris, you're on the money, usual. thank you money, as usual. thank you so much. lovely to you. much. lovely to talk to you. that's he's our that's lee harris. he's our great voice bristol. great british voice in bristol. what think, gb views what do you think, gb views gbnews.com. i know what you're going say. yeah. we going to say. i know. yeah. we all probably agree. but stay tuned because coming up, this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. the briana will be the amazing briana will be telling me all about her dramatic journey here she is speaking to buck angel . speaking to buck angel. >> tell me what. yeah excellent. >> tell me what. yeah excellent. >> i know who i had for feelings

of gender dysphoria at like six seven. >> i remember that vividly. and that never changed. i discovered the word transgender. actually from jazz on tlc. okay. and and i knew that i felt very similar to that . and i was around 12 to that. and i was around 12 when i found out who she was. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> and immediately i was 13 and ibegan >> and immediately i was 13 and i began to transition to a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glacier. it was a very wet and windy start for many of us this morning and further wet weather looks like it's on its way as we head through the rest of the weekend week. weekend and into next week. storm been named storm ellen has been named by the service this the irish met service this bringing the strongest winds and heaviest rain across the repubuc heaviest rain across the republic but also republic of ireland. but also bnng republic of ireland. but also bring you some wet weather to parts of northern england,

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and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. there's always something going on in the royal household and on the menu. while some exciting stuff , royal some exciting stuff, royal biographer angela levin will reveal all. >> angela yes , well, what i feel >> angela yes, well, what i feel very, very concerned about is prince harry's comment in his court case against him actually taking protection from the home office . and the reason i feel office. and the reason i feel thatis office. and the reason i feel that is because he's actually talking nonsense, because he's saying they were forced out . he saying they were forced out. he and meghan were forced out, which they weren't . they weren't which they weren't. they weren't at all. they wanted to leave. and they did so very quickly. how much london is his home and he wants his children to be here, to be relaxed . but they here, to be relaxed. but they can't be unless they get top protection . and i thought to protection. and i thought to myself, if he starts doing that, it's because everything else has failed. he wants to come back.

he wants to be a member of the royal family again. but my goodness, he's a very changed harry and is going to do what he wants. and the fact that he has no respect for his father, no respect for his brother, i think he's to be a big he's going to be a big danger because go into because he will go into competition. belief , if we go competition. my belief, if we go into competition with the royal family themselves and either hear what they're doing and do something first, as he had done with other things and i think they've really got to take that very, very carefully . what very, very carefully. what happens. and if he gets the top protection, which i don't think he deserves because it's police with guns who know everything that's going on, he can get a second grade one with no trouble at all. but if he wants that, he takes them off the street for people like you and me , and they people like you and me, and they will have to have four of them. which three times a day they change. and so i think it's really very dangerous . yes. so i

really very dangerous. yes. so i hope that the decision that's made is that he can have very good protection , but he can't good protection, but he can't have it with police who've got guns >> well, that's what it was anyway. so he he has protection and he just doesn't get the rabbit. isn't it when he's when he's still doing something with the royals , he gets that top protection. >> but when he's here going around and talking about how awful the royals are or wanting to see his friends , then he gets to see his friends, then he gets grade one where they're very good, often they've been police protection, they've retired from it and they will be protected, but not the very top one. he's going one court case after another. there's five five waiting for him. >> well , the way he talks is as >> well, the way he talks is as though he's getting no protection at all. that's how it comes but not the case. >> no, that's not the case. and ihope >> no, that's not the case. and i hope judge sure the i hope the judge i'm sure the judge will actually see that that's not a very good idea. he has lost the case, of course, with the mail because he said that they were intruding his life because they mentioned that

he was trying to keep it secret, that he was talking to the home office and complaining about the protection an and the judge said , well, they've got a right to do that . and i think that's do that. and i think that's a way of saying, look, mate, don't try and do this as a court case. but harry wanted him to make a decision himself. he's refused to do that. and it's now going to do that. and it's now going to court. it'll be back and forth and that's what his life is . and i think it's incredibly is. and i think it's incredibly sad . sad. >> they've got nothing else to do, have they? >> no, they haven't . they >> no, they haven't. they haven't. because if you look at catherine, i mean, the what we saw of the concert last night, how beautiful she looked, how gorgeous the children were, she must be going through a very difficult time when she's so heavily criticised, as does william . and, well, if you've william. and, well, if you've been outed for being a racist or unconscious bias, which i'm not sure you know, that's not great, is it? no, it's awful. and so that's very difficult. so she's

they're wearing it very well . they're wearing it very well. but i think for the king to have a son or anybody actually to have a son who is behaving like that at and being very rude about camilla and the first course that at that omid scobie sent over to holland had vile things about camilla and her underwear . underwear. >> and how do you know that ? >> and how do you know that? >> and how do you know that? >> i do know that was it. and lots of nasty things about william. and so this is the first copy that was this is the first copy that was this is the first copy that was this is the first copy that was sent to holland. and so it was a way of getting that done. i think, rather than actually me not. and the owner of that publishing house has said that his facts are up absolutely wrong. so we see that you know, that man is really unpleasant . really unpleasant. >> well, briefly as well, angela, i saw you on jacob's

show talking about whether they should get their titles stripped. you don't think they should? >> no, i don't they >> no, i don't think they should, think it's too should, because i think it's too changed your mind. no, i haven't i >> -- >> i've never said i thought we said that we would on said that we would work on trying to get mps to. trying to get the mps to. >> actually if you >> no, because actually if you do that, you can't stop harry being prince and being called prince harry and meghan will then be called prince henry . meghan will then be called prince henry. but that's meghan will then be called prince henry . but that's how it prince henry. but that's how it is. actually taking them is. but actually taking them from line succession, from the line of succession, that happen, that should be able to happen, shouldn't but is shouldn't it? but that is a thing government has to thing that the government has to do. well, that's right. and i think will be difficult think it will be very difficult for that. i think they for him to do that. i think they want to save it with harry and they don't really want to push it further you might it any further because you might not well when it all not be very well when it all goes wrong . goes really wrong. >> andrew levin, >> okay. well, andrew levin, thank angela levin, thank you so much. angela levin, royal biographer. we'll stay tuned come , i'll tuned loads. still to come, i'll be brianna ivy . but be talking to brianna ivy. but first, let's get your latest news with sophia . news with sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 5:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the

newsroom . a 16 year old boy has newsroom. a 16 year old boy has been charged with the murder of leon gordon who was shot dead in east london on tuesday evening. the boy has also been charged with the attempted murder of a 20 old man a 16 year 20 year old man and a 16 year old he was charged old boy. he was also charged with possession firearm and with possession of a firearm and possession intent to supply possession with intent to supply class a drugs. he will appear at barkingside magistrates court on monday . former home secretary monday. former home secretary suella braverman says the uk's abstention from the un security council ceasefire vote is disappointing, saying the council ceasefire vote is disappointing , saying the ballot disappointing, saying the ballot that would allow aid into the enclave and people to flee was vetoed by the united states. they stood alongside israel saying the proposed resolution would only plant the seeds for the next war. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people in gaza amid fears of humanitarian aid collapse ing. thousands of people are marching through central london in protest of the ongoing israel—hamas war. our

reporter jack carson caught up with them outside parliament as well. >> it's estimated 100,000 people took part in this pro—palestine march today as it ended up here at parliament square. now, the protest was mainly peaceful, but there were controversial chants from the river to the sea, as well as chants calling israel a terrorist state. the demographic of the protest was very mixed from people very old to people very young. and we also know people were bused in from around the country , including from the country, including from bristol including from bristol and including from birmingham well. here at birmingham as well. here at parliament square, we've had speeches of the speeches from members of the labour party and other members of solidarity of the palestinian solidarity campaign as their calls for a ceasefire continue . ceasefire continue. >> the lib dems are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached the ministerial code by failing to declare £100 million payment to rwanda . it was sent to kigali in rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april , on top rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april, on top of the £140 million already paid . that million already paid. that bnngs million already paid. that brings the total to 240 million.

writing the daily telegraph former immigration minister robert jenrick has warned rishi sunak rwanda bill does not go far enough. the times reports the rwanda legislation has been given only a 50% at best chance of successfully getting flights off the ground next year. members of multiple unions met today to argue against the anti—strike clause. after 18 anti —strike clause. after 18 months anti—strike clause. after 18 months of industrial action, hundreds of thousands of workers have taken action over pay and conditions . it's as regulations conditions. it's as regulations to ensure minimum levels of service came into force yesterday. this is the first time in 40 years the tuc assembled a special national conference. tuc general secretary paul nowak says the strike act is unfit for the modern day worker for going on strike is a basic protection at working. >> people have relied on for generations . but today we've got generations. but today we've got a tory government that feels threatened by that basic protection , often threatened by

protection, often threatened by the organised working class , the organised working class, threatened by workers having the temerity to stand up and their response reach out for that old thatcherite playbook. slap more restrictions on unions. bully working people into keeping quiet . quiet. >> court documents reveal the late queen wanted protection for the duke and duchess of sussex after they abstained from royal dufies. after they abstained from royal duties . an extract from a letter duties. an extract from a letter written by the late queen's private secretary, sir edward young states it is imperative that the family continues to be provided with effective security in a statement, prince harry said he feared for his family's safety and felt forced to leave the uk. he was suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements and five coastal homes in an erosion hit. seaside community are being torn down today. demolition work begun on the clifftop homes in the village of

hemsby in norfolk this morning. great yarmouth borough council said this decision was taken because the homes were not structurally sound and are unsafe after high tides and strong winds have been eroding the cliff . the feeling locally the cliff. the feeling locally has been fluctuate from extreme sadness to extreme anger and a rare white alligator has been born for the first time in captivity. the female reptile is one of only seven leucistic alligators in the world, according to officials at the theme park in florida, where she was born. they are the rarest genetic variation in the american alligator differing from albinos, which have pink eyes and a complete loss of pigment . this is gb news across pigment. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to . nana news now let's get back to. nana >> hello, good afternoon . it's

>> hello, good afternoon. it's just gone five minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion . it's show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours . we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today, it's author and broadcaster lizzie cundy and also a labour advisor at matthew laza . still to come, my laza. still to come, my difficult conversation today is with briana ivey . now her story with briana ivey. now her story is of transitioning at 13 and shines a light on the horror of the transgender industry. she will share her inspiring story. then for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking which of rishi sunak's remaining pledges is most important to you? now, sunak has managed to halve but i suspect halve inflation, but i suspect that would have happened anyway. but his other pledges but his other four pledges reducing national debt, growing the economy, nhs waiting the economy, cutting nhs waiting lists and stopping the small boats race remain unfulfilled .

boats race remain unfulfilled. so which of those do you think is most important to you? as even is most important to you? as ever, you can email me gbviews@gbnewsuk or tweet me at . gb news. so it is now time for this week's difficult conversation . now meet briana. conversation. now meet briana. she is a 22 year old transsexual woman who began her medical transition at the age of 13. and you'll be shocked when you hear her story . now, she was lied to her story. now, she was lied to by doctors and surgeons. she was put on puberty blockers, loop . put on puberty blockers, loop. ron is the one and i'll just let her tell you her insane story. but if you didn't know the horrors of children and gender dysphoria transitioning, then you will after this. and i'm pleased to say that briana ivey joins me now . pleased to say that briana ivey joins me now. briana, pleased to say that briana ivey joins me now . briana, thank you joins me now. briana, thank you so much forjoining me. it's such an honour to be talking to you. i saw your interview with buck. i got i reached out to buck. i got i reached out to buck and i got to talk to him.

and now getting a chance to talk to you i think is so important for the people britain as for the people in britain as well realise this is all well to realise what this is all about. so, briana, can you start by telling us a bit about you and why you felt that you wanted to go through the process of transitioning ? transitioning? >> yeah. so my name is brianna and i went through a lot of negative experiences as a kid , negative experiences as a kid, especially as it kind of related to my gender. i didn't have a lot of great interaction with men and boys, whether it was in my family or at school. and when i was around 12 years old was when i kind of was exposed to trans gender people online and i saw jazz jennings and her interviews on abc and it was when i was 13 years old that i realised or i came to the identity of being transgender and wanting to transition in. and i went to my mom and my stepdad at the time and we didn't really know much about transgender people . they didn't transgender people. they didn't know anything about trans people at all. and we decided to go

at all. and so we decided to go to a gender clinic that was downtown in our city and really go to them for guidance and to figure out what to do in this process. and that was when i started a medical transition right away. >> wow. so how old were you then ? >> 7- >> yeah, i 7_ >> yeah, i was ? >> yeah, i was 13 when i 7 >> yeah, i was 13 when i went there. i received about a 30 minute appointment where they kind of just went through some yes or no questions and they diagnosed me with gender dysphoria and i was 14 years old when i was started on the blockers and the hormones, really. >> so you literally had one 30 minute conversation. and then within a very short space of time, they'd put you on medication . medication. >> yeah, it was pretty much right away now, because in this country we get a lot of people i mean, only earlier we had one gentleman saying that, oh yeah, no puberty blockers, they don't. >> reversible . well, >> it's all reversible. well, you on the puberty you start on the puberty blockers. is that true in your experience or from what you know of these things ? of these things? >> yeah, in my experience , no. i

>> yeah, in my experience, no. i started having changes pretty quickly and there's really just no way to fully go back like on any sort of natural puberty that you are going to have once you started these medications , started these medications, because in reality it's not really comparable , comparable at really comparable, comparable at all what you go through when you do these medications throughout your puberty , um, it's all your puberty, um, it's all induced through cross—sex hormones. and so it's not it's not comparable to the opposite sex puberty like i thought it was . i was sex puberty like i thought it was. i was under that impression when i started it that i would be going through a female puberty. but that's not really what happened . what happened. >> what did happen when you went on them ? on them? >> yeah, i went through. i definitely went through a lot of bodily changes , but your bodily changes, but your hormones are pretty steady because you take the same dose . because you take the same dose. and i had two injections of the puberty blocker when i was 14 and then started hormones after that. and then started hormones after that . and i did have some issues that. and i did have some issues dunng that. and i did have some issues during that time. there was at one point i was about 16 when i

wasn't being dosed properly, and so i had not enough hormones at all in my body. so i had not enough hormones at all in my body . and so i was all in my body. and so i was going through menopause symptoms really severely and that was just due to the to the lack of checking the blood work at the time . and so i was on the wrong time. and so i was on the wrong amount. but there's no way to really go back. you really go back. like once you start blockers , it start puberty blockers, it affects development pretty affects your development pretty significantly. and, and one of those ways is that you don't really sexually develop. so by the time i was 18 or 19, i didn't have a lot of development in pelvic area at all or in in my pelvic area at all or in my genitals really . my genitals really. >> what was that like for you ? >> what was that like for you? because you would have been around, i presume you would probably be the only person that's going through that at the time. and it definitely my high school. yeah, it must be very difficult to sort of make friends and, you know, socialise with everybody else. what was that like ? that like? >> yeah, it was really isolating and i didn't really have a lot of friends. i didn't really have

a lot of social experience because i was going through so much in the clinic and just medically and i was so focussed on transition and there was just so much in and out of the clinic for blood work and all these different appointments. um, that it just, it really was just isolating already . aside from isolating already. aside from just being a trans person and being on the blockers and the hormones , i just didn't develop hormones, i just didn't develop sexually at all. so i didn't have sex drive , i didn't develop have sex drive, i didn't develop the tissue in that area either. and so it definitely was also isolating in that way. i felt like i wasn't feeling an experiencing things the same way as other people my age around me i >> -- >> did you feel that when you were on the path of it that it was like a momentum and you were just getting and you kept going and going and going and there was like a almost like was almost like a almost like a fix for the next thing that would get you closer to the to being you know, a woman, i suppose. >> yes, absolutely . that was >> yes, absolutely. that was something i fell into probably

after about 3 or 4 years , after about 3 or 4 years, because one of the messages that was told to me in my family when i was starting was that it's best to start young because then you'll look better . best to start young because then you'll look better. you'll have the most changes and you're just you'll just have a better life experience, especially that was also reinforced because the trans people i saw online were typically older and they all wished they had wished that they had transitioned younger age . transitioned at a younger age. um, so then i was being, i um, and so then i was being, i was on the hormones and the blockers, but it was about three years at that point . so when i years at that point. so when i was was i would go was about 17 was when i would go outside and people would just automatically say she and recognise as female . but it recognise me as female. but it still didn't always feel like enough. i was still having mental health problems. still mental health problems. i still didn't have great self—esteem and i didn't have therapy all throughout this transition process. it was just that one appointment and then just the medication. and so i was about 17 and i was already planning the next step, which would be to have surgery done because i was

i was in the mindset of i'm still not happy. and i've had all these changes and i'm being seen differently, but i still there's still something missing and it doesn't feel like enough. and so then that was when i really wanted to have surgery. >> so. so talk us through a little bit about that surgery . little bit about that surgery. >> yeah . so the bottom surgery, >> yeah. so the bottom surgery, i had was a new form of the bottom surgery. and it's pretty experimental because similar to jazz jennings and this has been like a public thing is that she's had a lot of complications with her surgery. and i did for the same reason being on blockers and hormones. you just don't develop a lot of tissue in your genital area and in your pelvic floor. so i wasn't able to have the traditional form of the procedure that's been done the procedure that's been done the longest. so i had to opt for an experimental version of the surgery, which used a graft of my abdomen skin that's inside the lining in order to create

the lining in order to create the new organ . and this surgery the new organ. and this surgery was was really experimental . it was was really experimental. it was was really experimental. it was hard to find information about it looking online. there wasn't any real like really detailed stories about what this is like and what the experience was . um, i is like and what the experience was. um, i wasn't able to find a lot of photos, even of the result. so i really trusted my surgeon and he had told me and also my family that because i was young, i was going to heal so well that it was going to make me happier. at the end of it. that was something that he privately told parents was privately told my parents was that they were concerned that i was really depressed and was still really depressed and having problems , having mental health problems, and they didn't know if a surgery really help. and surgery would really help. and he said , see all the time. he said, i see it all the time. and she'll be much better once she has this procedure and she'll feel a lot better. and i had the surgery and i had about every complication possible, and it was the most severe form. i

had blood clots in my leg. i wasn't able to walk for about two weeks. i was in a lot of pain. my entire body. i was bleeding about every day. i also in that surgery , my urethra was in that surgery, my urethra was completely swollen shut for about a month and so i wasn't able to go to the bathroom without a catheter in a bag. and dunng without a catheter in a bag. and during that that process , i you during that that process, i you also have to dilate when you have bottom surgery. so that's basically you have to insert like it's like a plastic , um, like it's like a plastic, um, it's called a plastic dilator andifs it's called a plastic dilator and it's to keep the space open that they created. and it was so excruciatingly painful every single time it felt like i was ripping myself apart and it felt like i was forcing something inside of me. and it just felt like i was being ripped at. and i was just terrified to ever stop doing it because i was it was told to me that if you give up, if you even miss one day,

you could have really it could be you could not go back and there would there would be no way recover so i was just way to recover it. so i was just putting myself through so much pain in and he told me that it was supposed to get better over time and that it wasn't supposed to be as uncomfortable to and actually try and use it as like actually try and use it as like a sexual experience and to try and pleasure from but and have pleasure from it. but it was nothing like that. and the pain got worse and it just it just if my body was just completely rejecting it and i felt like i was just trying to force it to stay . force it to stay. >> what happened in the end with it? i mean, you . it? i mean, you. >> yeah. and so after, after a few months, i tried reaching out to him and i was telling him that the pain is getting worse, the bleeding is getting worse . the bleeding is getting worse. um, just it felt like we um, it's just it felt like we were backwards , and he were going backwards, and he kept trying different things. he put me on antibiotics even though i had no infection in. he had me try , like, just coming up

had me try, like, just coming up with all these different reasons as to why things could be happening and none of it was really true either . and it really true either. and it wasn't until the end of that yeah wasn't until the end of that year. so about nine months after the surgery where i finally called and i said, like something is severely wrong, like i'm in even worse pain than i was months ago . like i'm in even worse pain than i was months ago. i'm like i'm in even worse pain than i was months ago . i'm bleeding i was months ago. i'm bleeding all day. i and it's just getting more severe . and it's nothing more severe. and it's nothing like where i'm supposed to be after nine months and he finally had me come in and what happened was, is that i was having a vaginal stenosis and i had scar tissue internally all inside of my body and in the organ and my pelvic floor was collapsing on itself . and he said that there's itself. and he said that there's just no way to recover this and that. i would have to have a second surgery and i went to he referred me to two other surgeons that would assist him with a second surgery, and they both told me that there's no way to operate on me without worse

complications or losing my life. and both surgeons refused to do a second surgery and i called and i said, i'm just confused because they're telling me something completely different than you told me. you told me that a second surgery would be quite simple. he said that quite simple. and he said that they were wrong and he kept trying to throw me around to different surgeons that would say to doing a second say yes to doing a second surgery. and and i told him i was like, i just don't think this right. like these. like this is right. like these. like these these surgeons these both of these surgeons were serious, that were really serious, that there's to really fix there's no way to really fix this because of all the damage and all the scar tissue . and and all the scar tissue. and then he stopped contact with me when i wouldn't do a second procedure. so that's absolutely awful . awful. >> and so where are you now with that? i mean, has it been resolved and i mean, was yeah, kind of where i'm at is really you just have to live with it.

>> i, i met with different surgeons kind of across the us so i consulted really to just get their opinion on it. i talked to somebody in beverly hills, somebody in miami, new york and chicago , and they all york and chicago, and they all said the same thing. they said there's just no way that we would say yes to doing a second procedure on you , your body. procedure on you, your body. there's so much trauma there in the region, so much scarring internally. and it would just create a bunch more health problems for you like it did the first time. um, so , so really my first time. um, so, so really my only resolution in is just to kind of live with it. luckily, the pain has subsided , but the pain has subsided, but there's no other surgeon that's really willing to put me through another surgery. and i don't i'm not willing to go through it again either year. and it's just been it's been a really hard experience because as there are health issues that can arise from it being there and being closed , um, like one of the closed, um, like one of the things i didn't even know that i had to learn from other people

is that what can happen is there's a partial rupture that can happen internally and that can happen internally and that can cause sepsis. but my can happen internally and that can cause sepsis . but my surgeon can cause sepsis. but my surgeon doesn't speak to me and so i'm not able to have like regular appointments to really check on it . it. >> so you're living with this now? you've come . does that mean now? you've come. does that mean that you have no sexual function, no feelings in that area at all, apart from pain ? area at all, apart from pain? >> yeah, no, there's really no sensation there either . >> yeah, no, there's really no sensation there either. i don't have sexual function or sex drive at and really and one of the harder parts of it is that there wasn't a lot of effort done into the to the external appearance. and so it looks kind of in between male and female , of in between male and female, which is really which is really difficult to live with, especially because it just it feels so abnormal, especially on your own body. and it kind of just created a new problem when i was trying to solve one of

them from the beginning. and there's also very little sensation there either. and it's really uncomfortable . really uncomfortable. >> i'm so sorry to hear that , >> i'm so sorry to hear that, because that's i mean, that's what you're you're going to have to live with that. and so what would you what would you say to people? because in this country , people? because in this country, we're having mps thankfully standing up and saying, look, you're pushing kids who may well be gay into this procedure, into this medicalized procedure . what this medicalized procedure. what would you say to any parents who are listening to you now or watching you now and thinking , watching you now and thinking, well, my child is feels that they're in the wrong body because this is a phrase that people often use is, yeah , what people often use is, yeah, what i would what i really want people to know is that our bodies are not wrong . bodies are not wrong. >> that was something that was said in my family so much said to me in my family so much was that i had the right mind and the body at and there and the wrong body at and there was therapy my it was no therapy for my mind. it was no therapy for my mind. it was just medicine and was just all medicine and surgery correct the body . and surgery to correct the body. and even ten years into a transition , even ten years into a transition i , even ten years into a transition , i still am realising that i

have mental health struggles that that i never solved from the beginning . so my biggest the beginning. so my biggest advice is just to take your time before your because these doctors will, will, will put your child on medication right away and it's something that you cannot go back on and i cannot reverse anything that's been done and i really just caution parents to just take their time pnor parents to just take their time prior ties therapy with your child if they're questioning their gender because that can come from so many different things mentally and it's really a disservice to them to not have them sit down and talk to somebody to figure out if transitioning is really the right option for them, especially as a child . it'll especially as a child. it'll take up so much of their childhood that they'll never get back and also just be really cautious about surgery, too, because because surgery is touted as being a lot lighter of a procedure than it is. and there's a really big lack of research on these surgeries. and a lot of doctors are have a ton

of conflicting information with them. and it's extremely dangerous . and if that's dangerous. and if that's something that you're going to consider, really take your time. really take your time, because i was barely given any information on like i should have been . on like i should have been. >> well, listen, brianna, i'm so running out of time. so i've got to ask you, my final question is, you could go back to what is, if you could go back to what you were before and how you were before, would you go back or you know, yeah , to think about this know, yeah, to think about this a lot. >> and i think for me, i think if i were to go back, i would just take my time transitioning instead of believing that every single surgery or every all of this stuff was going to fix the problem. i think i would have had a lot more therapy through it i could have went about it and i could have went about this process in a lot better way rather than being rather than just being fast tracked it's tracked through it. but it's brianna, ivy, thank you so much for joining me. >> people to forjoining me. >> people to find out >> if people want to find out more you, do you more about you, do you have somewhere on socials that they can on? yes absolutely. >> so i'm on youtube as well.

you can just search my name, brianna. ivy and i talk about all of this experience and a lot more detail and give a perspective and real information that it. and that people need about it. and you can also find me on instagram as well, brianna. >> ivy , >> underscore ivy, brianna, ivy, thank you so much for joining me. to you. me. so good to talk to you. thank you . that is, of course, thank you. that is, of course, the brilliant brianna ivy. that's journey. that was that's her journey. that was difficult conversation. stay tuned. just up to 25 tuned. it's just coming up to 25 after 5:00. it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm ricci's five i'm asking out of ricci's five pledges, he made when he pledges, which he made when he entered number 10, the most important which it important one, which one is it to you .

with me, michael portillo gb news britain's new . channel news britain's new. channel >> so let's get straight into the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking which of ricci's five pledges is the most important to you? if you've forgotten, let me just give you a quick reminder. firstly, half inflation, he's but inflation, which he's done, but he may have happened he may it may have happened anyway. secondly, grow the economy, national debt , economy, reduce national debt, cut waiting lists and stop cut nhs waiting lists and stop the boats. so out of those, which one is the most important to you? inflation was at 10.7. it's now down to 4.6. he met the target, the pledge to grow the economy has been made more difficult with the government putting up interest rates 14 times row . uk putting up interest rates 14 times row. uk debt is still times in a row. uk debt is still at an all time high. nhs waiting lists haven't improved, 7.7 million are on them. and of course what we all know about

the small boats. so out of those, which one the four remaining are the most important to you? joining me now to to you? well, joining me now to discuss, communications officer for reem ibrahim, former for the iea reem ibrahim, former labour stephen pound. labour mp stephen pound. economist justin urquhart stewart and ann widdecombe . stewart and ann widdecombe. justin urquhart stewart, i'm going to start with you . yeah, going to start with you. yeah, well , is going to start with you. yeah, well, is going to be the most important one for you. what do you think? >> well, actually, it was the whole thing with this is actually giving people some idea of what's going of some confidence what's going to most his to happen next. most of his pledges things are pledges here are things that are outside inflation. pledges here are things that are outcan't inflation. pledges here are things that are outcan't control inflation. pledges here are things that are outcan't control inflationion. pledges here are things that are outcan't control inflation at. he can't control inflation at all. with to all. actually, with regard to nhs, lot of that's nhs, again, a lot of that's outside control. what's nhs, again, a lot of that's outsidto control. what's nhs, again, a lot of that's outsidto happenol. what's nhs, again, a lot of that's outsidto happen there. at'sin nhs, again, a lot of that's outsidto happen there.at'sin my going to happen there. so in my view, growing the economy view, it's growing the economy and that you need one word and for that you need one word confidence get the economy confidence to get the economy moving again. if you start doing that, from it that, other things move from it will out and money. will go out and spend money. >> to invest more >> we'll be able to invest more and get more tax income, and you'll get more tax income, which means the debt which eventually means the debt goes down. >> yet. >> but not yet. >> but not yet. >> not the boats. then >> but not not the boats. then >> but not not the boats. then >> ibrahim yeah. i mean, >> reem ibrahim yeah. i mean, i think the economic growth is absolutely the government's priority be the

priority should be the government's priority. >> unfortunately the >> but unfortunately the government haven't done much in order that order to actually achieve that goal order to actually achieve that goal. still, you know, goal. we've still, you know, despite the very , very minuscule despite the very, very minuscule tax cuts that we saw at the last budget autumn statement budget in the autumn statement there, still entering some there, we're still entering some of the highest taxes that we've seen since the world war. seen since the second world war. now the tax is not just now the tax burden is not just about how high the taxes are, but also how complex the taxes are. and we have one of are. and we still have one of the complex tax systems the most complex tax systems in the most complex tax systems in the world. what we need to be looking at in this country is encouraging investment and encouraging growth. and that is not what the government are currently doing with with their economic policies. >> what they're doing. economic policies. >> widdecombe|at they're doing. economic policies. >> widdecombe ,t they're doing. economic policies. >> widdecombe , the ey're doing. economic policies. >> widdecombe , the problem1g. and widdecombe, the problem about this question is that all these are in some way interrelated . interrelated. >> david, obviously , you know, >> david, obviously, you know, we want economic growth , but we want economic growth, but there are also pressures on the economy, such as has caused by uncontrolled immigration for example, which puts pressure on housing, on education, on the health service and i think it is

you've got to say, growing the economy. but when i look at it, i mean, the thing that that really hits me is the waiting lists which have come about for a combination of reasons is the strikes, the pandemic, all the rest of it . um, strikes, the pandemic, all the rest of it. um, but strikes, the pandemic, all the rest of it . um, but i strikes, the pandemic, all the rest of it. um, but i don't see how you're going to tackle that if you don't have a growing economy, a country without a growing is a poor growing economy is a poor country . country. >> what do you think they could have at least done some of it? what about you, stephen pound good afternoon. >> well, this is a slightly worrying sort of spirit of equanimity of christmas. >> we all seem to be agreeing. >> we all seem to be agreeing. >> it's got to be, in the immortal words of james carville, it's the economy, stupid. >> you don't get right, >> if you don't get that right, you right. you get nothing right. >> we the boats >> look, we know the boats aren't to be stopped. aren't going to be stopped. >> going happen. >> that's not going to happen. >> that's not going to happen. >> looking the wrong >> they're looking at the wrong end of the telescope there. they should processing should actually be processing the people as soon as they arrive here, sending them back or or actually them or or actually accepting them in so taxes. so they can start paying taxes. >> look, if you don't get >> but look, if you don't get the economy right, you don't get

anything right. the economy right, you don't get anyand] right. the economy right, you don't get anyand] right urquhart stewart, >> and justin urquhart stewart, the of the exchequer >> and justin urquhart stewart, the never of the exchequer >> and justin urquhart stewart, the never had of the exchequer >> and justin urquhart stewart, the never had is of the exchequer >> and justin urquhart stewart, the never had is absolutely|equer >> and justin urquhart stewart, the never had is absolutely rightr we never had is absolutely right because the trust because the last the liz trust brief interregnum was destroyed by of global by a complete lack of global confidence. it was standard and poor's. >> y- t— >> it was the ratings agency that put the kibosh it. >> so grow the economy and the rest will follow of rest will follow except of course because course the boat, because that isn't address it. >> you don't think so? i think a lot of people may want nhs lot of people may want the nhs waiting boats waiting list and the boats actually, good to actually, but it'd be good to hear people think. justin hear what people think. justin urquhart thank very urquhart stewart thank you very much. widdecombe, stephen much. ann widdecombe, stephen pound and reem thank pound and reem ibrahim, thank you thoughts. you so much for your thoughts. well so you're me. i'm nana well so you're with me. i'm nana akua. is gb news tv, akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online and digital radio. online and on digital radio. coming continue with coming up, we'll continue with the great british this the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. which of hour. and i'm asking which of these remaining pledges is the most you? halving most important to you? halving inflation, most important to you? halving inflatio nhs waiting lists , cutting nhs waiting lists, reducing national debt, or stopping the small boats? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie hear the thoughts of my panel broadctalso om columnist lizzie hear the thoughts of my panel broadctalso formeernist lizzie hear the thoughts of my panel broadctalso former labour_izzie cundy, also former labour adviser matthew laza. but first, let's get your latest news headunes.

let's get your latest news headlines . on headlines. on >> thank you, nana. >> thank you, nana. >> it's 533. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . a 16 year old in the newsroom. a 16 year old boy has been charged with the murder of leon gordon who was shot dead in east london on tuesday evening. the boy has also been charged with the attempted murder of a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy. he was also charged with possession of a firearm and possession of a firearm and possession with intent to supply class a he appear at class a drugs. he will appear at barkingside magistrates court on monday . the lib dems are calling monday. the lib dems are calling for an investigation to see whether the prime minister breached the ministerial code by failing to declare £100 million payment to rwanda . it was sent payment to rwanda. it was sent to kigali in april, on top of the £140 million already paid. that brings the total to 240 million. writing in the daily telegraph former immigration minister robert jenrick has warned rishi sunak rwanda bill doesn't go far enough . the times doesn't go far enough. the times reports the rwanda legislation has been given only a 50% at best chance of successfully

getting flights off the ground next year . getting flights off the ground next year. former home secretary suella braverman says the uk's abstention from the un security council ceasefire vote is disappointing. the ballot that would allow aid into the enclave and people to flee was vetoed by the united states. they stood alongside israel, saying the proposed resolution would only plant the seeds for the next war. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people in gaza amid fears of a humanitarian aid collapsing . and brace yourself collapsing. and brace yourself as storm ellen brings gale force winds and heavy rain to the uk this weekend . the met office this weekend. the met office says the midlands , northern says the midlands, northern england and northern ireland will see gusts of up to 70 miles an hour . parts will see gusts of up to 70 miles an hour. parts of will see gusts of up to 70 miles an hour . parts of northern an hour. parts of northern england could see up to 30mm of rain today, with a yellow warning in place stretching from carlisle to sheffield until 3:00 tomorrow morning . separate rain tomorrow morning. separate rain warnings also cover northern ireland until 7:00 this evening and parts of southern scotland

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to grow the economy, reduce national debt, cut nhs waiting lists and stop the boats somehow some of those. what do you think? well, he hasn't done that well as he so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking which of the five pledges is the important to you? is the most important to you? bar obviously inflammatory bar obviously the inflammatory question. let's see what my panel make of that. joined panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster columnist by broadcaster and columnist lizzie former labour lizzie cundy, also former labour adviser matthew le le . adviser matthew le le. >> now, you always have to get one in, but that's why i love you. that's love you. you. that's why i love you. >> right. well, i'm going to come to lizzie cundy first. well for the boats. for me, it's stop the boats. >> he does, you know, >> hence, if he does, you know, stop the boats. more than one. that it's going to obviously that is, it's going to obviously then economy . look, i then help our economy. look, i cannot get over how we've been so incompetent with this. it is just a deplorable not securing our borders and we've got 8.5 million. we're spending on keeping you know, illegal immigrants in hotels. i'm sorry , immigrants in hotels. i'm sorry, by the way, this is going with the tory party. this is going to

sink their ship and with the hugei sink their ship and with the huge i mean, we've got net migration , over 700,000 those migration, over 700,000 those coming over so far since june is 52 over 52,000. it is a complete farce and joke . and unless they farce and joke. and unless they get a grip on this, he's not only going to lose the election . only going to lose the election. oh, no. i mean, that's over , i'm oh, no. i mean, that's over, i'm afraid. i mean, next time we see him, i know he likes a tight suit. he's usually prada. it's going to be moss bros. it'll be out of a job. >> i don't think he doesn't. think. >> yeah, there's some. >> yeah, there's some. >> there's some money, but it does has a huge impact does affect has a huge impact on people's say, people's lives. and as i say, next to me, there used to be a wonderful hotel that we'd have weddings and things, weddings and parties and things, and full of military and now it's full of military aged men and the schools can't walk past there. it's changed the whole village . and you know the whole village. and you know what? something needs to be done. it's ruining our wonderful country. >> matthew laza so the one i'd like to focus on is number four cut nhs waiting list because i think this is possibly the most spectacular failure of all because cut , they

because far from being cut, they are at a record level and they haven't peaked yet. >> looks like they're going >> it looks like they're going to about people. to peak about 8 million people. yes, people. it seems yes, 8 million people. it seems almost extraordinary. waiting for on the nhs. and of for treatment on the nhs. and of course, fair to him, course, let's be fair to him, because the strikes , they because we had the strikes, they keep on strike and keep going on strike and especially some of those consultants . i agree with you, consultants. i agree with you, i'm not favour of the strikes i'm not in favour of the strikes the doctor strikes. i think that they round the they should have got round the table and talked least table and talked with at least one them settled one of them has been settled now. key is the now. but but the key is the strikes have added somewhat to it. but it's the failure. know it. but it's the failure. i know you're shout me over you're going to shout at me over 13 invest in the 13 years not to invest in the nhs. and the other thing about the no, no, nhs. and the other thing about the “0, “0, no: nhs. and the other thing about the no, no, no, no, the nhs is no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> going to stop you there. >> i'm going to stop you there. i'm going to shout at you. i'm not going to shout at you. 30 is not to invest. it is a black hole. a money pit. black hole. it's a money pit. the going there the money is going into there and know how much and it's you know how much they're getting they're spending on getting buying everything buying drugs and everything else. getting the best. >> well, that's why need >> well, that's why we need reform as well. they should reform as well. and they should have and why have done that. and that's why wes streeting, whose name is reshuffle on its knees. >> it's shambolic. putting, putting money in it. it's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit'sg money in it. it's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit's going ey in it. it's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit's going to in it. it's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit's going to bet. it's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit's going to be it's's going >> it's shambolic. putting, puit's going to be it's waste|g to it's going to be it's waste of money reform, middle

management. need management. yeah. we need reform. total reboot reform. it's a total reboot and a no, well, a different. no, no. well, no, actually , we need reform. actually, we need reform. >> say that. just want to be clear. >> wait till nigel's out. let's with that. but i'm telling you, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no it. but i'm telling you, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no needs i'm telling you, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no needs an telling you, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no needs a total.ing you, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no needs a total rebootj, >> wait till nigel's out. let's with no needs a total reboot and nhs no needs a total reboot and restart shuffle and something completely because there's a is not working. >> matthew it's a big no it isn't there's big economic isn't and there's a big economic consequence we were consequence because we were talking earlier about getting people course people back into work of course some mean people back into work of course somecan't mean people back into work of course somecan't work, mean people back into work of course somecan't work, but mean people back into work of course somecan't work, but you've n they can't work, but if you've got for hip operation, got waiting for a hip operation, you can't and work care you can't go and work in a care home because physically home because you physically can't if, you can't do the work. even if, you know, you would and know, ordinarily you would and the problem can be sorted. so i mean, that's biggest mean, i think that's the biggest failure for me is, failure of all. it for me is, you amongst those standing you know, amongst those standing out, complete you know, amongst those standing out, to complete you know, amongst those standing out, to deliver. nplete you know, amongst those standing out, to deliver. short. failure to deliver. short. lizzie what think, though? >> because the others are saying that it's the economy, stupid, as agreed that as if they all agreed that actually economy actually getting the economy going major player. going was the major player. >> well, is. >> yeah, well, it is. it's a major pledge. of course, we need the up there. the economy up there. >> that was the most important one. but being taxed. >> yeah, but we're being taxed. the since the second the biggest tax since the second world huge net world war. we have huge net migration. illegals and legal in this which has a huge

this country, which has a huge effect on our infrastructure, our schools, in every possible aspect of our lives , of course. aspect of our lives, of course. so that's why i'm saying stop the boats. but sadly , he can't the boats. but sadly, he can't stop a pedalo , you know, being stop a pedalo, you know, being dnven stop a pedalo, you know, being driven with a you don't need me. >> listen, you should come join us us. >> us >> i think the voters are getting sick. >> we need glamour. >> we need some glamour. >> we need some glamour. >> sick of being >> they've been sick of being ignored, and not ignored, patronised and not listened is rishi listened to. and this is rishi reminds me of an old boyfriend that to promise me stuff that used to promise me stuff and never deliver. and, you know, you're like, promise know, you're like, you promise me. and he's failed on every level . level. >> he's actually known that he couldn't stop the boats. why would you say you're going to stop the boats when you know you literally have control over literally have no control over stopping literally, stopping them? and literally, i mean, had braverman mean, he's had braverman who left wouldn't far left because he wouldn't go far enough with the reforms that were stop the boats. were needed to stop the boats. robert has because robert jenrick has gone because even even one even though he wasn't even one of who would have, of the most who would have, he's not erg no not like the erg group. no absolutely. he's more central. yeah. and he is annoyed and has said, look, we're going to fail if you don't do it. what is wrong with classic?

wrong with the classic? >> it's classic for your >> it's the classic rod for your own isn't it? i mean, the own back, isn't it? i mean, the reason is because he's reason he did it is because he's got these australian political strategists who in 10 strategists who sit in number 10 and australia they said they and in australia they said they were going stop boats and were going to stop the boats and they did because they had a handy islands just handy selection of islands just above could above australia and they could take people there and process them themselves take people there and process thendidn't themselves take people there and process then didn't haveemselves they didn't have the complications. think complications. whatever we think of rwanda, more complicated of rwanda, it's more complicated because further because it's obviously further away a lot people are away because a lot of people are slightly as well and sort slightly racist as well and sort of think rwanda of think that rwanda isn't a nice but i mean, people nice place. but i mean, people have level have said that about the level of that. so none of money we >> oh, so none of the money we have at the money spent have to look at the money spent on now it's actually is on rwanda now it's actually is it million and pending it 240 million and pending another 50 on its way. and don't forget we've still got the barges that are costing us 20 k a week . the money is like he's a week. the money is like he's writing blank checks. you know willy nilly. he has taken honestly , the backbone out of honestly, the backbone out of polity . polity. >> acas spineless spine . yes, >> acas spineless spine. yes, that's the word i think you were looking for. well, listen, this show is nothing without you and your welcome our your views. let's welcome our great voices. they're

great british voices. they're opportunity be show opportunity to be on the show and us they think and tell us what they think about that we're about the topics that we're discussing got discussing today. i've got three of going to start with. of you. i'm going to start with. oh, cook london. alan of you. i'm going to start with. oh, so cook london. alan of you. i'm going to start with. oh, so you've london. alan of you. i'm going to start with. oh, so you've got1don. alan of you. i'm going to start with. oh, so you've got aboutalan of you. i'm going to start with. oh, so you've got about 35n okay. so you've got about 35 seconds. alan what do make seconds. alan what do you make of what do you think the of this? what do you think the most to most important pledge to you? great show. most important pledge to you? gre well, yw. most important pledge to you? grewell, i'm happy that both of >> well, i'm happy that both of your actually want your panellists actually want reform to sort out the health service , because obviously it's service, because obviously it's one of our pledges . we will one of our pledges. we will do that. but we've rishi's pledges . that. but we've rishi's pledges. i think he should pledge to stop creating and perpetuating these problems because they've all been created or continued by the current administration. but the one i want to get sorted quickly more than any is the illegal immigration, because that has a massive impact on just about every public service . everything every public service. everything where the public purse is being used is affected by that. >> interesting . thank you very >> interesting. thank you very much. that nicely done. right let's go to brian doogan. you yourself also have 35 seconds in solihull. what do you think ? solihull. what do you think? >> hi, nana. are you doing? >> hi, nana. how are you doing? >> hi, nana. how are you doing? >> i'm good, thank you . >> i'm good, thank you. >> i'm good, thank you. >> if we were to prioritise the

pledges we all want investment into the economy. >> we all want economic growth . >> we all want economic growth. but i believe slashing nhs waiting lists would make the biggest difference. a real difference. >> genuine difference in people's lives. >> and there's been an increase in the number of patients waiting more than 18 months for treatment . treatment. >> morale is low among staff . if >> morale is low among staff. if staff absences are high and this , you know, all around within the nhs, they've downgrading of our nhs represents such a key failure . if the prime minister failure. if the prime minister were to fulfil this pledge above the others, it would be a start . the others, it would be a start. i think. >> unfortunately more people all over the country are having to carry on waiting as the waiting lists climb ever higher. >> no, it's just terrible . well, >> no, it's just terrible. well, you look rather dapper in there. you see what's going on with you? you're looking really well, is that you had something done with let's do with your hair. right? let's do you have. no, no . right.

you have. yeah. no, no. right. let's get to jonathan jones. his day all right . your day in cornwall. all right. your cornish accent. >> nana. >> nana. >> no, this is a tea. >> a good cup of tea. always tastes better in a cornish accent. but anyway , the boat has accent. but anyway, the boat has to be stopped. that's number one. i was just talking to mark southwest woodworking, and there's no question the there's no question that's the most measurable , visible thing. most measurable, visible thing. and being lost every and lives are being lost every day boats are day that those boats are not being that has to be being stopped. so that has to be number one. >> and he set himself up for it. and got to creative now and he's got to get creative now and way of actually and find a way of actually delivering that number one delivering on that number one promise he could try and stop that. >> but he obviously he's obviously decided that that is not going to be his major thing, isn't he? although he thinks it is. but he's not doing anything about jonathan. when's is. but he's not doing anything aborac jonathan. when's is. but he's not doing anything aborac jorcoming, when's is. but he's not doing anything aborac jorcoming, by when's is. but he's not doing anything aborac jorcoming, by theen's is. but he's not doing anything aborac jorcoming, by the way ? my rac tea coming, by the way? i'm waiting you to i'm still waiting for you to bnng i'm still waiting for you to bring that mushroom it's bring me that mushroom tea. it's >> it's so good. >> it's so good. >> no, no, i've got to see you about that. >> it's too good. >> it's too good. >> teas, jonathan jones. cheers, everybody with a cup of tea. yeah. thank you very much to all of you. jonathan jones , also of you. jonathan jones, also

dougie and also alan cook. lovely to talk to you both. thank you. lovely to talk to you. right here's a story that caught my eye. i wanted to talk to about this one. well what to you about this one. well what do think about because do you think about this? because some depressed some people might feel depressed about but way, it's about this, but in a way, it's bidding farewell to those who have indelible mark in have left an indelible mark in our lives. yesterday's funeral of shane of legendary musician shane macgowan was something else. i mean, it was wonderful. i dillian whyte depher was singing all the way better and the bells were ringing . were ringing. >> excuse me. excuse me. day . >> excuse me. excuse me. day. this has reignite heated the debate on whether it's time to transition from traditional sombre ceremonies to celebrations that reflect the vibrant life led by the departed. >> so i'm asking, departed. >> so i'm asking , is it time to >> so i'm asking, is it time to ditch the notion of funerals and treat them with more like a celebration? what do you think ? celebration? what do you think? let's mean , you go first. let's i mean, you go first. >> yeah. so, i mean, just both

my parents. sadly, no longer with us and i had to organise both funerals and i and i think yes. so for my mom, who died in 2019, we organised a i organised a humanist ceremony , which is a humanist ceremony, which is brilliant because you work with the person who's celebrating it and you can write, you write the script basically, so can script basically, so you can just bring the things to just bring in all the things to celebrate their lives. so i think we shouldn't shy from think we shouldn't shy away from the know, it's the fact that, you know, it's going come to of us and going to come to all of us and we them as a we should use them as a celebration the celebration to reflect the personality person you're remembering. >> cundy totally . >> lizzie cundy totally. >> lizzie cundy totally. >> i agree. look, i sadly have lost close friends that are lost many close friends that are very dear to me . and i have to very dear to me. and i have to say their funeral were probably one of the best days and nights i've had because we celebrated their lives literally . we, as their lives literally. we, as shane's wonderful funeral and i love it, it's celebrating the life telling, of course you shed a tear, but you're telling fun. funny story edges of their life. and it appearances and that's how it should be. and i i'm

catholic and we like a good old knees. do you have a good. >> all right. all right. yeah. stop talking. sorry. for goodness sake. i'm the goodness sake. i'm doing the eyes and everything. i'm bawling you i got married on you all. i got married on gassing. you gassing. sorry. i'll tell you about funeral. will be. about my funeral. mine will be. it'll kids from it'll be like the kids from fame. will have fame. everyone will have a routine. i want people to cry because i'm gonna routine. i want people to cry becalmy i'm gonna routine. i want people to cry becalmy leg i'm gonna routine. i want people to cry becalmy leg warmers i'm gonna routine. i want people to cry becalmy leg warmers if�*m gonna routine. i want people to cry becalmy leg warmers if it's|onna wear my leg warmers if it's going to be very sad. yeah, but you them happy? no, you want them to be happy? no, no, it's supposed no, no. sometimes it's supposed to that i'm not to be terrible that i'm not there anymore. i'd to there anymore. i'd like to see that, but but yeah, that, but let's. but yeah, that's what about that's what i think. what about you? well, listen, stay with me because i'm joined by broadcaster columnist lizzie because i'm joined by broadcandr columnist lizzie because i'm joined by broadcand also columnist lizzie because i'm joined by broadcand also colum|labour:ie cundy and also former labour party matthew. party adviser matthew. it's time for the part of for the quick quiz. the part of the my panel the show where i test my panel on other stories on some of the other stories that hitting the headlines that are hitting the headlines right matthew, your buzzer, right now. matthew, your buzzer, please. cundy, please. lizzie cundy, your buzzer, right. buzzer, please. right. okay. question play along question one, please play along at reason did bbc at home. what reason did bbc presenter marion moshi give for flicking the bird ? here it comes flicking the bird? here it comes . i love that . . i love that. >> what do you think? it's the eyes. >> what did she say? what was the answer? she said she was

counting down to five to the gallery. what do you think? >> she was joking. >> she was joking. >> it was. was just a joke to >> it was. it was just a joke to the cameraman. >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafact,man. >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafact, she. >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafact, she was joking >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafthe she was joking >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafthe team,as joking >> it was. it was just a joke to the cafthe team, pretending to around the team, pretending to count down. both that. count down. we both got that. no, you didn't. no, you didn't. you didn't. >> it says counting down. >> it says counting down. >> no, just joking. it's >> no, no, just joking. it's mine. that's really the mine. that's not really the difference mine. that's not really the diffejoking . yeah. so, lizzie, and joking. yeah. so, lizzie, counting one point to you. well done you home, right? so done to you at home, right? so far, that embarrassing done to you at home, right? so farfar. that embarrassing done to you at home, right? so farfar. much mbarrassing done to you at home, right? so farfar. much doesrassing done to you at home, right? so farfar. much does theing done to you at home, right? so farfar. much does the uk so far. how much does the uk government given to rwanda ahead of treaty agreement? closest of the treaty agreement? closest answer wins. lizzie cundy 140,000,240 million. >> i think have , yes, about >> i think we have, yes, about 140 million. i'm say 140 million. i'm going to say 250 million. >> answer million on >> the answer is 240 million on the nose . but then the uk has the nose. but then the uk has given rwanda another million given rwanda another 100 million before seekers have before any asylum seekers have even been sent. so that's a 250,000,140 and 100, right ? what 250,000,140 and 100, right? what is the name of the developers of grand theft auto franchise after the trailer for the latest game cam came out this week in in rugby games , is it true or false rugby games, is it true or false 7 rugby games, is it true or false ? lizzie cundy true . i don't ? lizzie cundy true. i don't know what i said there. i false go on, hold on.

>> you saw it. no, i didn't because they don't know how to do it on this. >> i'm going to have to teach them. right. but it's false. you absolutely right. yes. all right. open question. boris johnson to the johnson gave evidence to the covid inquiry but what football team was displayed on his woolly hat? uh, it was me , grimsby, hat? uh, it was me, grimsby, grimsby . grimsby. >> i'm giving up wins. >> i'm giving up wins. >> i'm giving up wins. >> i don't know who wins, but listen, that's it. that's all. i've got time for on that one. but on today's show, i've been asking is robert jenrick right? are there too many migrants to integrate? according our integrate? according to our twitter 5.7% of twitter poll 97.5 5.7% of you say yes. 4.3% say no. say yes. 4.3% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel. broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. you, thank cundy. thank you, lizzie. thank you. former labour you. and also former labour adviser laza . thank you. you. and also former labour advisethank laza . thank you. you. and also former labour advisethank you laza . thank you. you. and also former labour advisethank you to iza . thank you. you. and also former labour advisethank you to you thank you. you. and also former labour advisethank you to you atank you. you. and also former labour advisethank you to you at home u. huge thank you to you at home for i will leave for your company. i will leave you the weather. i'll see you with the weather. i'll see you with the weather. i'll see you tomorrow. same time, same place. >> looks like things are heating up. spawns layers up. boxt boilers spawns layers of weather on gb news is . of weather on gb news is. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie

glaisyer so a very unsettled picture over the next couple of days with low pressure very much in charge of our weather. the first system brought plenty of wet and windy weather named storm ellen by the irish met service with storm fergus sat out bringing out to the west, bringing further weather through further wet weather through sunday. back to saturday evening though, picture though, and a drier picture across parts of england and wales band of rain has wales as that band of rain has pushed way northern pushed its way into northern england , scotland northern england, scotland and northern ireland as well, where that heavy fall on heavy rain continues to fall on some ground. so some very saturated ground. so some very saturated ground. so some flooding possible here some flooding is possible here under those clear skies, though, further south, we could see temperatures 7 temperatures around 6 or 7 degrees. but perhaps a degrees. but perhaps just a little cooler parts of little cooler across parts of scotland. a cloudy start scotland. and so a cloudy start across scotland, but sunny across scotland, but some sunny skies begin with across skies to begin with across england wales before the england and wales before the next from the next system pushes in from the west, us some further west, bringing us some further spells heavy rain and some spells of heavy rain and some strong to those strongest strong winds to those strongest winds along those irish sea coasts through sunday afternoon and that rain and evening. but that rain continues to push its way north and parts of and eastwards into parts of scotland through sunday afternoon. here afternoon. temperatures here generally around average, but a little milder across the little milder again, across the south—west, around 13 or 14

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