mass migrate an suella reduce mass migrate an suella was wrong about many things, but she was right to talk about the values of migrants crossing the channel. >> it's time to celebrate the stiff upper lip after nigel farage demonstrates it so well in the jungle. >> last night. >> last night. >> why.7 i >> last night. >> why? i agree with her late majesty, we must pay for the security of harry and meghan. and why it's time to end the covid inquiry farce once and for all. >> it's 7 pm. and this is the. saturday five. >> welcome to the saturday five. now, folks. nigel farage might be in the jungle, but it's going to be much more wild in here over the next hour . every week over the next hour. every week join i'll be benjamin and myself along with our guest stars tonight, it's the former brexit party mep belinda de lucy and a new face to the show, the assistant us opinion editor at

the telegraph and gb news contributor poppy colburn. this is going to be a bumpy ride. you know the ropes. each of us gets 60s to outline an argument about a chosen topic. there may not be any bushtucker trials here, but benjamin butterworth is, which is arguably worse. and of course we want to know your views as well. get in touch by emailing gb views at gbnews.com but before we get into it, it's time for your saturday night news with sophia wenzler. >> thank you, darren. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. a 16 year old boy has been charged with the murder of leon gordon who was shot dead in east london on tuesday evening. the boy has also been charged with the attempted murder of a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy. he was also charged with possession of firearm and possession of a firearm and possession of a firearm and possession to supply possession with intent to supply class a drugs. he will appear at barkingside magistrates court on

monday . matt, police have monday. matt, police have arrested two protesters at a pro—palestine march in london today. thousands of people gathered to call for a ceasefire in gaza. the met police arrested a man on suspicion of racially aggravated public order offence for allegedly displaying a placard comparing israel to nazi germany. a second man was arrested for carrying an offensive placard . un officials offensive placard. un officials say there's enough food aid available in egypt and jordan to reach a million people in gaza amid fears of a humanitarian aid collapsing under a new system, suppues collapsing under a new system, supplies could come to the kerem shalom crossing on the border between israel, gaza and egypt . between israel, gaza and egypt. for the first time. the un says trucks need to be allowed to enter through the gaza , enter enter through the gaza, enter gaza directly to alleviate an increasingly desperate situation increasingly desperate situation in the enclave israel has so far rebuffed pleas from the united nafions rebuffed pleas from the united nations to access the crossing. deputy executive director of the world food programme, carl

eskow, says the operation is critical. >> we need kerem shalom to open, you know , yesterday i think we you know, yesterday i think we were trying to use kerem shalom for the first time for verification, but not for entry . verification, but not for entry. we need that also so that we can have more order around the un convoys coming in and to some degree separate them from from the rest of the aid that is flowing in through rafah . and of flowing in through rafah. and of course we need a humanitarian ceasefire so that there is the space and the operational environment inside to deliver to all those that need it. and in a controlled and orderly way , controlled and orderly way, court documents reveal the late queen wanted protection for the duke and duchess of sussex after they abstained from royal duties i >> -- >> an extract from a letter written by the late queen's private secretary, sir edward young states it is imperative that the family continues to be provided with effective security in a statement, prince harry said he feared for his family's safety and felt forced to leave

the uk . he is suing associated the uk. he is suing associated newspapers limited over an article about his legal challenge against the home office following a decision to change his security arrangements . s this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to the . saturday five. >> it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm darren grimes and i can promise that you're in for a very lively hour. let's crack on with tonight's first debate. first up, it's albee. albee what are you kicking things off with tonight ? tonight? >> darren, i've got something new for you this week. praise for suella braverman . now, look, for suella braverman. now, look, my views on suella braverman are very well known . whilst i don't very well known. whilst i don't think she was the best home secretary and that she got a lot of stuff wrong during her time in government, i do think she got one thing right that was

got one thing right and that was in her debate westminster in her debate in westminster earlier let's take earlier on this week. let's take a tens of thousands of mostly >> tens of thousands of mostly young men, many with values and social mores , at odds with our social mores, at odds with our own pouring into our country day after day , month after month , after day, month after month, year after year. is right. >> suella is right to say that there are many migrants crossing there are many migrants crossing the channel who might not share british values. i heard an account from a woman working at an organisation helping channel migrants at hotels across the country where she said at the hotels she's working at, they've had to move women out of mixed accommodation because of the way the male migrants were treating women. we need to have a conversation about the average opinions of people from countries where a lot of these channel migrants are coming from. according to research from the pew research centre , the the pew research centre, the majority of muslims from countries in south asia, north

africa and the middle east believe that sons and daughters shouldn't have equal inheritance rights, that they want sharia law to be the law of their country, that women must obey their husbands and that western popular culture is a threat to morality. now the majority of the countries where channel migrants are crossing from fall into the polling polling categories of the pew research centre's data . we need to have centre's data. we need to have a conversation about this. it's not an easy topic to talk about, but it's an important topic to talk about nonetheless . and talk about nonetheless. and moreover, why is it left to conservatives like suella braverman to talk about this issue ? why aren't the left issue? why aren't the left interested in this issue at all? is it not reasonable to think that people who are coming from countries where gay people are killed, where our women are expected to obey men, might be a threat to gay british people and women ? i think they could be. is women? i think they could be. is

it not reasonable that you would think the left wouldn't want to have unlimited and uncontrolled migration from parts of the world where the average citizen has values so completely at odds with their own and not just left wing values, opposition to british values like fairness , british values like fairness, democracy, liberty, freedom and tolerance. it's not racist to have a conversation about the values of people moving to this country, and it's time we had that conversation . benjamin that conversation. benjamin i was absolutely horrified when i was absolutely horrified when i was doing the research for this part of the show at some of the opinions that people hold in some of the countries where people are crossing the channel from. now, of course , some of from. now, of course, some of the people crossing the channel might be coming to this country because those opinions. but because of those opinions. but are concerned what are you not concerned about what we bringing into this we might be bringing into this country abroad? we might be bringing into this couitry abroad? we might be bringing into this coui think abroad? we might be bringing into this coui think in abroad? we might be bringing into this coui think in truth,1? >> i think in truth, it's complicated because talked complicated because you talked about might not share about how they might not share values of liberty and freedom . values of liberty and freedom. well, i dare say those values

are the very reason that they've escaped, because they are basic fundamentals to a free human life. and that's why they want to be in britain not yemen to be in britain and not yemen or afghanistan or a country like that. the idea that they're more likely to misogynistic is probably an understatement . you probably an understatement. you know, to hate women, to disrespect them, to hate gay people is obviously plausible. but the same time , you know, but at the same time, you know, there have been generations of migrants who have those migrants who have had those views. there been views. there have been generations of britain who've had views, and they've had those views, and they've changed they changed their views when they assimilated, know, many assimilated, you know, many people who came up from predominantly parts of the predominantly black parts of the commonwealth who moved here in the 50s and 60s would have had very similar social attitudes as well. would you say, as well. and would you say, as someone from background , someone from that background, that they shouldn't have come because kind where because that's kind of where this but i would this leads to. but what i would say what would you think say about what would you think about they would about that? because they would have i'm have similar views. i'm literally address that point. >> what i would say about commonwealth came commonwealth migrants who came here and the here in the 1950s and the societal towards women here in the 1950s and the sociigay towards women here in the 1950s and the sociigay people towards women here in the 1950s and the sociigay people in:owards women here in the 1950s and the sociigay people in thoses women and gay people in those countries, given that they were literally colonies,

literally just british colonies, would probably actually quite similar societal similar to the societal attitudes had in attitudes that we had in britain. we were all britain. look, we were all pretty racist, misogynistic and homophobic 1950s. britain homophobic in the 1950s. britain isn't anymore. a lot of these countries that migrants are coming still are. so coming from still are. so i think is where my concern think that is where my concern would come. darren, how do you feel about this? i know you're very passionate about stopping the boats . illegal migration. do the boats. illegal migration. do you think it's a bit strange that left wingers don't really seem to care that people are coming from countries where there completely there are values completely different to their own? >> i on this very >> yes. i mean, i on this very channel had debate with channel had a debate with a nigerian guy who'd come and nigerian guy who'd come over and he said openly that actually he doesn't mind if more nigerians come over . doesn't mind if more nigerians come over. and they do hold views that run contrary to what is british legislation. so being anti—gay or being anti, whatever it might be, that's absolutely fine. and i said, who ? who have fine. and i said, who? who have you actually asked ? you know, you actually asked? you know, who have you said to the british people, have you pulled them? have you said, would you be absolutely supremely relaxed about people coming here who

don't share your views and values that's i values? because that's what i find deeply. one morally reprehensible , because you're reprehensible, because you're bringing over a law to people who simply won't assimilate into wider british society because they don't agree with wider british society. so the likes of owen jones , you know, parroting owen jones, you know, parroting on about gaza every two minutes, well, you wouldn't last two minutes over there. so all of these things, i think, call into question even the morality , question even the morality, frankly, of the left and the fact that they don't care about minority groups in reality , they minority groups in reality, they care about the fact that the left wing project has been one that supports mass migration and they can't deviate from that narrative. >> belinda, as a woman, do you feel sorry i just assumed your gender? >> no. how about it? do i'm a lady? yes, you are a lady. a real lady. >> but belinda. >> but belinda. >> as. >> as. >> as. >> as a real lady. yes just for a second. to be serious. do you feel any less safe as a result

of the increase in channel migrants that we have been seeing in this country? i think it was about 81,000 this year, up from 17,000 sorry, 81,000 asylum seeker applications this yeah asylum seeker applications this year. and there are 17,000 asylum seeker applications , i asylum seeker applications, i believe, in 2010. well well, look, i think immigration has worked so well in the past because it's been done at a pace that even if it's from countries with very different values from us, they've come in in small enough numbers and in a slow enough numbers and in a slow enough time that they've been able integrate because the able to integrate because the town village they've gone town or village they've gone into british into is still majority british held values . held values. >> unfortunately, now what we see so many coming over over see is so many coming over over such a small amount of time , such a small amount of time, often going to places where they're already in majority, they're already in the majority, that there's no onus them to that there's no onus on them to integrate anymore or to assimilate anymore . and for assimilate anymore. and for women in those areas , there's women in those areas, there's and i've had many occasions means that i haven't spoken about before or i haven't mentioned where i've i've been in a situation i felt a little bit more harassed and threatened. >> i have called the police in

the past many i mean, i've got a long list, but but occasions once, for example, where a somali man was following me wouldn't leave me alone. >> and a very spoke very little english, but was telling, shouting at me, woman, woman, you need to teach me english. stay here. stop and following me and following me. you have to teach me english. i had to hide into a fabric shop of a lovely asian lady who me asian lady who gave me protection and. and actually sent to check on sent her husband out to check on the street after. so it's not about immigrants per se, because many have assimilated, many love our british culture. and in fact, through brexit, my experience is that many first, second, second generation immigrants are more patriotic about this country than the whole of westminster put together. so it's not about being scared of immigrants . it's being scared of immigrants. it's actually about as you so you put so well being more conditional about immigration. if we're having vast numbers coming over, is it wise to have them coming from cultures that once they're here and have the vote, they can

start actually voting against the progress women have made against the progress the gay community have made because their vote will be as much their vote will be just as much as as mine is worth. and the government won't put in proper integration . integration policies. >> so much for >> belinda, thanks so much for sharing story. it must have sharing that story. it must have been difficult, poppy listening to has said, have been difficult, poppy listening to been has said, have been difficult, poppy listening to been through as said, have been difficult, poppy listening to been through somethingve similar? >> yeah, mean, i think most of >> yeah, i mean, i think most of the young women in this country have experienced some of have experienced some kind of particularly if they moved to london they come from london and maybe they come from somewhere london where somewhere outside london where there's immigration. there's been less immigration. so more, you so you think there's more, you think more sexual think there's more sexual harassment than think there's more sexual harassnofit than think there's more sexual harassnof london? than think there's more sexual harassnof london? certainly, outside of london? certainly, from experienced, you from what i've experienced, you know, i grew up essex, which know, i grew up in essex, which is particularly far away is not particularly far away from the last from london, but in the last year alone, i've been harassed on public transport, the tube, i think times, and i've had think four times, and i've had four separate police incidents . four separate police incidents. but comes down to we have to but it comes down to we have to be why people do be realistic about why people do actually to britain. and actually come to britain. and benjamin, you said earlier that people have a respect for liberal values the freedoms liberal values and the freedoms that from living in britain. >> they come here for the freedom. >> that's not true. well, it is

the vast majority, the vast majority people and abused majority of people and abused and in a zone , the vast and in a war zone, the vast majority of people who are coming britain at the moment coming to britain at the moment are legal migration coming to britain at the moment are are legal migration coming to britain at the moment are are becoming igration coming to britain at the moment are are becoming forition schemes, are becoming for economic yeah, there's economic reasons. yeah, there's nothing with that. i'm not nothing wrong with that. i'm not saying as a pejorative, i'm saying this as a pejorative, i'm just we talking just saying we were talking about countries very about countries with very different cultures, people who are countries with are coming from countries with very have no very different cultures have no real to want to real reason to want to integrate. why would if integrate. and why would they if you're because you you're coming here? because you have better economic opportunities, you are not coming you have coming here because you have respect for the british rule of law. that quite quite. law. that is quite quite. >> would question that because >> i would question that because my grandparents for my grandparents came here for economic and can tell economic reasons, and i can tell you have respect for the you they have respect for the british rule of law. >> and way i've said >> and the way i've said this and they've integrated. so there's the there's no reason to say the immigrants wouldn't have immigrants today wouldn't have that of living if you that same way of living if you are, for example, as we're trying the most radical trying now, the most radical experiment in mass migration everin experiment in mass migration ever in history, i mean, to have over a million people coming in every year from all over the world put into communities, many of which are already made up of many, many migrant groups, the

idea that you can then integrate these i mean, wouldn't these people, i mean, i wouldn't even to where start as a government. >> what would you even do? >> what would you even do? >> yeah, well, right. we're going out from you, going to find more out from you, poppy, up going to find more out from you, poppy, up next, is poppy, because up next, it is indeed, poppy, because up next, it is indeed, poppy. what's indeed, poppy. poppy, what's caught week? caught your eye this week? >> well, think the big story >> well, i think the big story this week is unfortunately, it's the of the covid inquiry the farce of the covid inquiry that's being led by baroness hanson . and johnson has hanson. and boris johnson has kind of been the focus of this at the moment. and i found it to be really, really distasteful watching the former prime minister essentially be harangued role in his harangued for his role in his culpability in the spread of the covid 19 pandemic. and it got me thinking, what is this inquiry actually about? because if you look at continental europe, almost every country has had an inquiry into how their nation responded to this unprecedented pandemic. they've already been wrapped up. ours is barely even begun. we have victim groups. we have lawyers. a lot of people starting to make a lot of money out of this. and it comes to down the fundamental problem, which is actually which is are we actually learning any lessons from this or pointing the finger at

or are we pointing the finger at politicians as particularly conservative politicians, that certain and certain people may not like? and blaming something that blaming them for something that they may not have any personal responsibility doing for responsibility in doing so? for me, find it very, very me, i find it very, very frustrating that is frustrating that this is a wasted opportunity. wasting wasted opportunity. it's wasting a money, it's wasting a lot of money, it's wasting a lot of people's time and it's also, think, disrespectful to also, i think, disrespectful to the victim groups. so as you can tell, i've got quite few tell, i've got quite a few opinions on this one. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> mean, is it >> julie. i mean, what is it that annoyed the most that has annoyed you the most about the fact that about this? is it the fact that basically i think we focus more on boris johnson's whatsapps or lack and not enough on lack thereof and not enough on the fact that if we compare ourselves with sweden, for example . all right, there was example. all right, there was a perfectly different response . perfectly different response. >> darren, if another pandemic does occur and goodness knows it might occur while the might even occur while the inquiry still going it inquiry is still going on, it could for many, many, could be going for many, many, many you know, what many years. you know, what lessons are we actually learning from of the from this? i mean, some of the data that's being thrown out is incorrect. seems much to incorrect. it seems much more to me a finger me that this is a finger pointing exercise than a construct inquiry where we construct of inquiry where we will lessons. so if will learn lessons. so if something like this, heaven

forbid, something like this, heaven forbidwhat better . that's know what to do better. that's what's irritating to me. >> what i've noticed is that >> and what i've noticed is that the scientists who, you know at the scientists who, you know at the start of the pandemic said we shouldn't masks . we shouldn't wear masks. >> then changed and said >> s who then changed and said we should wear masks are now trying to cover their own well behinds . and say that actually, behinds. and say that actually, you know, it's the politicians fault. they're the ones that were calling with their vaccine as well. >> remember the children aren't don't won't need the vaccine. oh yes. need the vaccine. yes. they will need the vaccine. i it's so that's what the i mean it's so that's what the question questions all question the questions are all wrong being at the wrong that's being asked at the moment . yeah, agree with poppy moment. yeah, i agree with poppy then. i with then. i agree. i agree with poppy. it's such a waste poppy. i think it's such a waste of money. i think there are no hard questions about can we hard questions about how can we avoid lockdown and who's to blame the harder , faster, blame for the harder, faster, longer, torturous lockdowns longer, more torturous lockdowns as a lazy, quick fix to a panic? i mean, that's what i feel, that nothing's going to come out of this. it's going to cost us millions. it's going to take ages. and really, it's about personalities, and it is personalities, ego and it is bofis personalities, ego and it is boris bearing mind boris bashing, bearing in mind he die. so the idea

he did nearly die. so the idea the man was frivolous about everyone's lives didn't everyone's lives and he didn't kill anyone. killed kill anyone. covid killed people's people . and although people's people. and although my heart very much, heart goes out very much, obviously who lost them, obviously those who lost them, bofis obviously those who lost them, boris didn't anyone. but boris didn't kill anyone. but he's treated like a he's been treated like a murderer . murderer. >> we all look to benjamin . >> we all look to benjamin. >> we all look to benjamin. >> i mean, first of all, the terms of the inquiry were set by bofis terms of the inquiry were set by boris johnson. that moment was made clear when he made a suggestion saying, i don't think this inquiry is quite right. he said end of his testimony said at the end of his testimony to which person questioning to which the person questioning him well, you the him said, well, you set the terms the inquiry, maybe terms of the inquiry, so maybe you thought about you should have thought about that classically, you should have thought about thédidn't classically, you should have thought about thédidn't know classically, you should have thought about thédidn't know what ssically, you should have thought about thédidn't know what he ally, you should have thought about thédidn't know what he was he didn't know what he was doing. think these inquiries doing. i think these inquiries are so important clearly doing. i think these inquiries arcost, mportant clearly doing. i think these inquiries arcost, you rtant clearly doing. i think these inquiries arcost, you know, clearly doing. i think these inquiries arcost, you know, tens, clearly it cost, you know, tens, hundreds of billions of pounds. it was the biggest shock that we've had culturally and economically since second world war. the idea that you war. and the idea that you wouldn't over every last wouldn't go over every last detail would be a mistake in a democracy. and i think the fact 5000 whatsapps have gone missing and he can't explain why he really can't. the factory reset thing is obviously nonsense. i say we need a factory reset on

bofis say we need a factory reset on boris and the tories, boris johnson and the tories, not on his whatsapps the fact is that someone is trying to that when someone is trying to lie the decision making lie about the decision making and process , that and the thought process, that should real concern. and should be a real concern. and this has exposed by the this has been exposed by the inquiry and that's very useful. >> but i just, i just feel like there's so much focus on boris johnson when actually the prime minister failure is so much bigger johnson bigger than just boris johnson in the whole whitehall machine was completely unable to deal with what happened during the covid 19 pandemic. the preparedness that we'd done before that we've been working on for decades, by the way, under labour conservative under labour and conservative governments, , only not governments, was clear, only not good enough. and all of this focus person and whether focus on one person and whether he or doesn't is he does or doesn't apologise is unhelpful in my opinion. all i care about is that there are lessons that are learnt. i agree that the inquiry is important. ben but think the focus is ben but i think the focus is that have been the inquiry at that have been on the inquiry at the moment, whether or not boris is apologised, or not is apologised, whether or not rishi the bodies rishi said let the bodies pile high sound harsh , but i high might sound harsh, but i don't about of that . don't care about any of that. all i care about is that lessons

are learned this and that are learned from this and that it happens again. it never happens again. >> also, can talk about >> and also, can we talk about more broadly? i think this is important. inquiry. important. this is this inquiry. yes. as you said, there needs to be discussion about how be some discussion about how policy responded to the policy makers responded to the covid it was covid 19 pandemic. it was unprecedented. i completely agree. but that's the case, agree. but if that's the case, why it that since 1997, why is it true that since 1997, there have been an average of three running at any three inquiries running at any given every year? there was given time every year? there was . i mean, we have these inquiries for everything now aboutis inquiries for everything now about is carried on with it. poppy about is carried on with it. poppy then i don't i certainly don't agree with the process. it's just labour problem. it's not just a labour problem. it's not just a labour problem. it's not just a labour problem. i completely agree with you. it's partisan issue. we it's a cross partisan issue. we now need to reckon with when something goes wrong, how do we respond it? what will the respond to it? what will the lessons learned or are we lessons we learned or are we just lining pockets of lawyers? >> they always go about >> they always go on about a judge led inquiry and i think god judge led. he must be exhausted. you know, i think in a democracy it much better to a democracy it is much better to have these things exposed in the pubuc have these things exposed in the public sphere . but the problem public sphere. but the problem is that maybe we have a media

and attitude to politicians and an attitude to politicians thatis and an attitude to politicians that is more interested in the soap opera than the details. and that ends up ends up with some of these things being kind of redundant and, you know , the redundant and, you know, the hours of boris johnson's questioning, i dare say the bits that most of us would have picked up the reports picked up on from the reports are likely to the soap are more likely to be the soap opera because what the opera because that's what the journalist for the headline. >> yeah, but i just still can't understand why you care so much about seeing boris johnson's whatsapp because that whatsapp as well, because that is in which is the process in which this government was making decisions that to live or that caused people to live or die, to have basic freedoms at certain and not others . certain times and not at others. >> you know, it sounds like the whole system was a in whole system was a mess in there. and there's nothing to there. and if there's nothing to hide those whatsapps, then hide in those whatsapps, then why being hidden? it's why are they being hidden? it's like says to that like that says to me that there's something important about process . about his thought process. >> tea on. that's >> he put the tea on. that's obviously there's obviously going be than just going to be more than just carrie, tea on. carrie, put the tea on. >> know, dealings >> you know, i know my dealings with from my dealings with i know from my dealings with i know from my dealings with a lot i just don't want with a lot of i just don't want to trawl through 40,000 or however you don't have to. >> don't have to. the

>> you don't have to. the inquiry will think it is inquiry will and i think it is it's slightly almost that it's slightly almost like that rebekah whole rebekah vardy that whole situation pr dropped situation where the pr dropped her phone in north sea, her phone in the north sea, you know, all same kind of energy. >> it's all quite shady and i don't like it. >> okay. >> okay. >> well, still to come tonight, we're to find out what we're going to find out what beunda we're going to find out what belinda about male belinda thinks about male stoicism. we're going stoicism. and we're going to find think about find out what i think about ruining generations home, ruining my generations home, buying and take a wild buying plans and take a wild guess as who benjamin thinks guess as to who benjamin thinks should pay for harry and meghan's security . see you with meghan's security. see you with the saturday five live on .

radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five. as always, cheers very much for your emails about tonight's topics. so we've had a fair few of you write in and well an to start us off says we do not know covid measures were a failure as there is no comparison . saintly sweden isn't

comparison. saintly sweden isn't making a success of migration and other issues , for example. and other issues, for example. so. well, that's that's one view. a few others are agreeing with. i'll be actually quite a few of them saying that actually on suella braverman is absolutely right, but that they're disappoint . and we they're disappoint. and we didn't mention the grooming gang scandal, for example, as an obvious piece of evidence to suggest that there's been a massive failure of integration an and all those other things are also girls and women feel less likely to come forward if they're going to be accused of being racist. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> yeah , absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> wrote and >> and then julie wrote in and said she agrees with poppy said that she agrees with poppy and she suffered sexual and that she suffered sexual harassment what she deems harassment from what she deems to be a minor point and that actually she's deeply worried about the direction that we're going in. but, folks, it's time for our next debate. keep your emails coming in now then, darren, i hear for a change, immigration is on your mind. >> indeed . >> indeed. >> indeed. >> right? so i'm going to take you back to last year to start

off with last year. england only managed to scrape together 177,000 new homes . now let's add 177,000 new homes. now let's add a little bit of spice to those numbers, shall we? because britain's been on quite the immigration bender and is now suffering one hell of a hangover with net migration soaring to a record 745,000in 2022 . and record 745,000in 2022. and 672,000 in 2023. now, i'm not carol vorderman, right? i cannot crunch numbers and i certainly cannot afford the botox bill. but even i can see that there's a colossal gap between the trickle of housing supply and the tsunami of migrant demand . the tsunami of migrant demand. and we've got youngsters in our families eyeing up their first home. now they're likely singing hymns of open borders and all that malarkey . but i say it's that malarkey. but i say it's time for a bloody reality check. britain wasn't always as open as a prince harry memoir. this mass migration business. it's a

recent fad, and here's a bit of wisdom for us if you're important . a manchester sized important. a manchester sized crowd yearly, well, guess what? you're going to need to start building extra manchester's every year , right? consider every year, right? consider london, where half of the social housing is filled by those not born on this fair isle for the comfy crowd detached from migration front lines, it's easy, easy to ignore. but what about a single mother hunting for a roof over her kids heads? do we just say, well, tough luck, pet . you're queuing behind luck, pet. you're queuing behind our diversity drive. professor matt goodwin received quite the kick in this week , and he notes kick in this week, and he notes that the migration adviser committee found in 2018 that a 1% rise in population from migration pushes up housing pfices migration pushes up housing prices by the same margin. and it's not just buying, of course, if the cost of housing goes up, then renting becomes a nightmare too. and it's the young ones who

are up against it. the fix in my eyesis are up against it. the fix in my eyes is that we need an immigration freeze as we need more house building . yes, but we more house building. yes, but we also need policies that refuse to send brits to the back of an ever growing queue . it shouldn't ever growing queue. it shouldn't be controversial to say that it's common sense in order to unite britain, we've got to put a. to britain's mass migration madness . a. to britain's mass migration madness. now, a. to britain's mass migration madness . now, poppy, you a. to britain's mass migration madness. now, poppy, you had a really, really good piece for the telegraph recently . i forget the telegraph recently. i forget when it was the other week would have been about a week ago. and it was very good. and i listened to it intently. now you for saying that by your generation will accused of being will have been accused of being some of swivel fruit some kind of swivel eyed fruit cake. are you getting sick of the fact that we hear people like benjamin butterworth talk about how we need to build more housing whilst at same time housing whilst at the same time he supports it's not bus loads, it's ship loads coming into this country every year. >> well, i completely agree.

>> well, i completely agree. >> the problem with the language around the mass migration debate is it often sees house building and massive immigration as two things that are totally separate from each other. but as you've said, you know, in an ideal world, particularly the world that a lot of like very liberal economists well, you economists will make. well, you know, having a million know, if we're having a million people year, people coming in every year, growth, we can just build growth, then we can just build a million houses. the problem million houses. but the problem is country, as we know, is in this country, as we know, and i'm sure as you will agree, benjamin, it's really bloody difficult it's difficult to build houses. it's very we a lot of very difficult. we have a lot of legislation in place. we have the 1945 town canning act, the 1945 town of canning act, which it very, very which makes it very, very difficult for government difficult for the government to actually a top actually intervene and do a top down of building lots of down scheme of building lots of houses. irregardless houses. and that's irregardless of a lot of voters of the fact that a lot of voters aren't happy house aren't happy to have house building going on near them. so you've got that one and you've got that one aspect and then you've the second then you've got the second aspect. we're told aspect. and we're told constantly immigration aspect. and we're told const forly immigration aspect. and we're told constforthe immigration aspect. and we're told const for the economy, ation aspect. and we're told const for the economy, it'sn aspect. and we're told const for the economy, it's good good for the economy, it's good for listen to for the economy. don't listen to the fact that productivity is flatlined for the last 15 years. it the economy. it is good for the economy. we're to keep it we're going to keep saying it until it happens. well, of course, is going to

course, immigration is going to drive housing. drive up the cost of housing. i mean, know that that's basic mean, we know that that's basic supply and demand. and so i think very important, think it's very important, particularly of my particularly for people of my generation, to understand that particularly for people of my gen

about a problem. and about 30 years as a problem. and at the same time , you've seen at the same time, you've seen the number of people buying second and homes, not second and third homes, not necessarily to rent, but as a places to go on holiday. in the uk, that has gone up 800% in the last ten years. and so when you talk about housing crisis, you can't pretend that's not there. 15% of all houses in this country are rented. that's an enormous proportion and that's people buying up lots of houses. when you're talking about supply and demand that is having a profound effect on the cost. and full disclosure, my grandparents were buy to let landlords so , were buy to let landlords so, you know, that affects the economy. but now so many people do is causing do it that that is causing a problem . with 4 do it that that is causing a problem .with 4 million homes problem. with 4 million homes short. and fact is , i think short. and the fact is, i think there are a lot of people that would that you would like to say that it's, you know, the immigrants . that are know, the immigrants. that are causing this who also sit there going to the local council meetings complaining about their view of the park or the golf course when they don't want new houses people in houses built. lots of people in this country live in entire cities and towns that were built

in 50s, the 60s and have in the 50s, the 60s and have nice lives there. that also go on and oppose anything remotely like that being built today. but even if people like your grandparents, for example , had grandparents, for example, had said, i'll let you build said, look, i'll let you build 4 million homes, let's have them all near me, right? >> we've got a crisis here. let's it next year, we're let's do it next year, we're going to have another 700,000 people come here and then we'll be square because of be back to square one because of the of policies that you the kind of policies that you liberals support. >> isn't good now that >> but isn't it good now that we're least admitting we're at least admitting that there relationship between there is a relationship between the two? right >> took us long enough. >> that took us long enough. i mean, not rocket science. mean, it's not rocket science. >> that's what the conversation comes to. about there comes down to. it's about there is relationship between the is a relationship between the two. don't in an ideal two. you don't live in an ideal world you can have or world where you can have one or the other. you've got to address both. let's liberalise both. i agree. let's liberalise house the same house building. but at the same time, we've got to make sure that we can deal with the backlog. >> i think when we talk about adding when we talk about adding more, when we talk about immigration, course, immigration, housing, of course, i agree benjamin and darren i agree with benjamin and darren in course, we're in that, of course, if we're going three going to be having three quarters of million people quarters of a million people coming year, that's going coming into a year, that's going

to on housing demand. >> but even if we had an immigration freeze tomorrow, darren, which i don't agree with, say had an with, but let's say we had an immigration freeze tomorrow, there be a housing there would still be a housing crisis country. so let's crisis in this country. so let's not an not pretend that just an immigration alone is immigration freeze alone is going to solve the housing crisis this country. crisis in this country. it is not it is also not it. and actually, it is also true that if we are going to build the numbers of houses that we need this country in the we need in this country in the time we them all time that we want them all built, a year, we might built, 500,000 a year, we might actually some migrant actually need some migrant labour for a limited time to come build those houses come over and build those houses . an immigration . so i think an immigration freeze be bonkers, by the freeze would be bonkers, by the way, i think immigration should come i think come down because i think 750,000 in 1 year is bonkers, but a total immigration freeze would be, i think, because there are skills that we need in this country that we don't have in the native population, which is a investment in house a lot of investment in house building, city building, especially in a city like comes from like london, comes from businesses in the arab world, and of the people building and a lot of the people building houses in this country come from eastern europe. >> so the idea that there's not two of this involve two sides of this which involve immigration would be ridiculous. >> our green and

>> i don't want our green and pleasant to be concreted pleasant land to be concreted over because immigration. no, over because of immigration. no, but saying, but i'm just saying, if it continues idea that, oh , continues the idea that, oh, we'll build more and more we'll just build more and more houses, not talking about houses, we're not talking about many oxfords beautiful bath many oxfords and beautiful bath crescents going crescents that are going to be built and down country, built up and down the country, that's going to happen. i'm that's not going to happen. i'm sorry, the idea of sorry, but i think the idea of immigration now is completely sorry, but i think the idea of immi stolen now is completely sorry, but i think the idea of immi stolen from is completely sorry, but i think the idea of immi stolen from us:ompletely sorry, but i think the idea of immi stolen from us viapletely sorry, but i think the idea of immi stolen from us via the aly been stolen from us via the ballot box. it's like we can't vote on it anymore. it's been taken from us. and i don't taken away from us. and i don't think it's the immigrants fault at i mean, they been at all. i mean, they have been welcomed and encouraged to come at all. i mean, they have been welc�*byed and encouraged to come at all. i mean, they have been welc�* by the nd encouraged to come at all. i mean, they have been welc�* by the government.�*d to come at all. i mean, they have been welc�*by the government. soo come here by the government. so anyone who frustration over anyone who has frustration over housing anger at the housing direct your anger at the government, about government, not about those coming where coming into your community where housing because housing is concerned because they've been encouraged to come here been reckless of here and it's been reckless of the to encourage the government to encourage so many when do many to come here when we do not have the infrastructure to house our , especially in council our own, especially in council housing. >> it's a betrayal of the british people at all. no, but it's not about having none at all. >> i think we should have a pause on the numbers. >> we have enough houses down to tens of thousands. >> we have enough houses down to ten i of thousands. >> we have enough houses down to ten i of th> we have enough houses down to ten i of th> i want to build some houses for people here, for those people already here, not people coming abroad.

not for people coming abroad. no. we're going to on no. right. we're going to get on to more now. to more topics now. >> but still ahead, benjamin is going mystery of going to solve the mystery of who's for the duke and who's to pay for the duke and duchess of york's security. and beunda duchess of york's security. and belinda will why we belinda will explain why we should british should celebrate the british stiff lip . you're with the stiff upper lip. you're with the saturday five live on .

listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five, as always. >> cheers very much for your emails . back >> cheers very much for your emails. back to our covid inquiry chat earlier and has written in and she says, boris never wanted lockdown from day one, but cabinet did that . it is one, but cabinet did that. it is democracy . neil says look at the democracy. neil says look at the state of sweden's crime because of mass migration. watch out uk of mass migration. watch out uk of increased crime . yeah, i of increased crime. yeah, i think that's an important point . think that's an important point. lawless hellhole. steve says it's all down to the government allowing this to happen. it's

not complicated. stop them coming in. right. that's well said . now it's time for our next said. now it's time for our next debate . we're going to talk debate. we're going to talk about harry and meghan, who are, of course, universal, absolutely unloved by the british people. so who better to defend the pair than benjamin butterworth? take it away. benjamin >> to be universally loathed. naturally. i'm on their side this week, documents released from the late queen showed that she believed harry and meghan should have their state funded security carry on. so in contrast to a lot of what we've been hearing, elizabeth, the second or elizabeth the great, as i think we should be calling her, said that it was of quote unquote, paramount importance that the security continue for harry and meghan because there were extremists out. there was her word. i'd use the word nutters who were going after them. now now, after years of hating on the duke and duchess of sussex , the relentless of sussex, the relentless attacks that this poor couple has faced, i think it's time that we heed the late queen's

words . i that we heed the late queen's words. i mean, after that we heed the late queen's words . i mean, after all, it that we heed the late queen's words. i mean, after all, it is just nasty to remove the protection of this family. prince harry didn't ask to be born into the royal family. he didn't ask to be one of the most famous people in the world. and he can't stop that. that is already the case. he didn't ask to go and serve in afghanistan. he chose to do that and put his life on the line with other british soldiers. now i think we should respect veterans , and should respect veterans, and that includes prince harry. so the idea that we as a country would be so small minded and so venomous as to say that because we don't like some of the politics and cultural persuasions of harry and meghan , persuasions of harry and meghan, that they should remove the security that risks that keeps them alive . bearing in security that risks that keeps them alive. bearing in mind security that risks that keeps them alive . bearing in mind that them alive. bearing in mind that his mother was killed in a horrendous accident, not only is that wrong, but it wasn't the wishes of the late queen. so god forbid . and if we saw something forbid. and if we saw something happen to harry and meghan, or their kids, people would change their kids, people would change their mind. then so don't we their mind. then so why don't we change mind now? darren you

change our mind now? darren you relentlessly hate them. why shouldn't they have the taxpayers cover their security given that they didn't ask to be in this position? >> well, you keep saying that they didn't ask for all of this. >> they didn't ask blah, blah, blah and whatever else you said. but i'm afraid that actually no one asked harry to admit one asked prince harry to admit to how many people he'd killed whilst on tour in afghanistan . whilst on tour in afghanistan. right. we didn't ask him to write a tell all memoir that put people at risk who he then exploited to make a quick buck off of the back of his book. so you might think that all of that is perfectly fine and excusable, but i certainly don't. >> i think that is largely irrelevant because it irrelevant if none of those things you mentioned it as a security risk. none of those things had happened when this letter from the queen's private secretary was was already was written and he was already at risk. and the fact is at serious risk. and the fact is that cannot get rid of that. that he cannot get rid of that. one the reasons why he's had one of the reasons why he's had to do things like write the book is because the enormous

financial his financial cost of covering his security and he got, what, tens financial cost of covering his se�*millionsj he got, what, tens financial cost of covering his se�*millions out got, what, tens financial cost of covering his se�*millions out of it, what, tens financial cost of covering his se�*millions out of diana's. tens financial cost of covering his se�*millions out of diana's inens of millions out of diana's in his inheritance from diana . his inheritance from diana. >> and then, of course, he still gets money from being the prince of wales, former prince of wales. so well, let me put this back to you. he can afford his own security. >> should boris johnson get security? >> well, boris johnson doesn't get kind of security that get the kind of security that prince harry getting round prince harry was getting round the former prime the clock security former prime ministers do. >> former home >> yes. so the former home secretary, so former secretary, so the former northern up secretary, so the former nc a hern up secretary, so the former nca point up secretary, so the former nca point that up secretary, so the former nca point that costs up secretary, so the former nca point that costs a up secretary, so the former nca point that costs a lot up secretary, so the former nca point that costs a lot of up to a point that costs a lot of money. do you think they should lose boris johnson hasn't turned around said sort this. lose boris johnson hasn't turned arorl'm said sort this. lose boris johnson hasn't turned arorl'm selive ort this. lose boris johnson hasn't turned arorl'm selive in this. california. >> democratic. the guy the guy owns millions of pounds in his private pocket and doesn't do anything service anything of public service at this point in time. >> so your is flawed? >> so your argument is flawed? >> so your argument is flawed? >> no, it's not. >> boris johnson will pay for his security apparatus when he's abroad to broaden it. abroad and needs to broaden it. >> will harry and meghan. >> so will harry and meghan. >> so will harry and meghan. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> the question. the >> that's not the question. the question to the question needs to be on the british taxpayer, this country when here. i think when they're here. i think that's . that's nasty minded. >> we're missing an important

detail and meghan detail because harry and meghan offered pay for home offered to pay for the home office security that they would receive in the united kingdom when in the country. when they were in the country. and issue was that people and the issue was that people didn't think they would be entitled, shouldn't entitled, they shouldn't be entitled, they shouldn't be entitled they're entitled now that they're not royals style of home royals to the same style of home office security that the rest of the royal family now. the royal family have now. i think totally spiteful. i think that's totally spiteful. i do. for what it's worth, think that should have the same that they should have the same security that the other royals get in the united kingdom when they are here. if they've offered to pay for it themselves, we should let them do it. >> do think our home office >> do you think our home office security for rent for security is up for rent for a royal? i do. royal? yes, i do. >> they're not working royals and i actually agree with you a little bit. >> benjamin. they are inescapably. >> think we should lay off >> i do think we should lay off the couple. they're just human. there is too much hate against them. nothing them. i personally feel nothing towards them. they've just been a but other a disappointment. but other than that, it's that, nothing. but i think it's wrong our home security wrong to allow our home security to rented out by a couple of to be rented out by a couple of hollywood celebs. is there no longer royals? longer working royals? >> in the street. >> harry was shot in the street. >> harry was shot in the street. >> imagine the horror rightly, and we he should pay for his

own, but not office own, but not home office security, would have security. >> but still ahead. last but not least, it's belinda who will be responding our very own nigel responding to our very own nigel farage emotional reunion with his daughter last night. >> well, what a shock. i know . >> well, what a shock. i know. are you surprised? very didn't expect it so . you're with the expect it so. you're with the saturday five live on

gb news. >> welcome back to the saturday five. now, folks, before we move on, i just want to give you a small reminder about our very own nigel farage, who's in the jungle. nigel got through another round on i'm a celebrity last he's in the final last night and he's in the final foun last night and he's in the final four. so if you want to vote for him, grab your phone scan the qr code, which is on screen now, and download the app . that app and download the app. that app enables you to vote for him five

times per day for free. so let's make him king of the jungle. it's going to be the biggest upset since brexit, and personally, i can't wait to see benjamin in floods of tears . benjamin in floods of tears. now, britain's often criticised for having a stiff upper lip. is it not a keep calm and carry on attitude, but our very own beunda attitude, but our very own belinda de lucy says that ain't no bad thing. take it away. >> belinda nigel farage had a moving moment last night when he saw his daughter for the first time in three weeks on. >> i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. take a look. >> hello. i don't believe it. how are you? love you. all right ? >> 7- >> i'm just 7 >> i'm just happy ? >> i'm just happy to see you. >> i'm just happy to see you. >> oh, happy to see you, darling. you . okay yeah. yeah darling. you. okay yeah. yeah >> and sit down. oh, wow. what a shock. i know. are you surprised? very. oh didn't expect it so have you been? how

is it? good. yeah >> i like the sleeping out. >> i like the sleeping out. >> that's nice. dad. you've done so well. we're all so proud of you. it's been so refreshing to just see you as you for once . just see you as you for once. everyone at home is amazed . everyone at home is amazed. like, shocked, but in the best way. couldn't . not be good. way. couldn't. not be good. >> how's everybody? >> how's everybody? >> everyone's good. everyone sends their love. grandma and grandpa. they watch it every night. loved seeing night. they loved seeing your bare the telly . bare bottom on the telly. >> now his reaction to seeing his daughter triggered the woke bfigade his daughter triggered the woke brigade into a frenzy, all because he didn't unravel into an emotional lather or flip around like an emotionally incontinent, hypersensitive bbc approved man when he saw her. many on twitter responded in horror to his calm and reserved reaction , saying, oh, it was reaction, saying, oh, it was a sign this man was obviously a sociopath. he couldn't be less arsed to see his child and that he was cold and without feeling no, he wasn't. he has like many

millions of brits , a stiff upper millions of brits, a stiff upper lip, much needed in moments when those vulnerable around you need strength. he was an anchor for his daughter to hold onto when she was visibly upset that seems pretty fatherly to me . imagine pretty fatherly to me. imagine if he had paddled into a bawling child at the sight of her and left her feeling worried . no left her feeling worried. no stiff upper lip is often an act of great selflessness . it can of great selflessness. it can save lives, give reassurance to those in fear, win wars, protect the weak, and provide sanctuary for those more vulnerable to unravel too. it could help in this current climate where the fixation with navel gazing on every offence or discomfort causes more harm than good. there needs to be a rebalance. so we should cheer those who show resilience, strength and good coping mechanisms alongside those who want to protect men's mental health. our young need it more than ever now, and i think ispeak more than ever now, and i think i speak for many women when i say that we feel safer being with steady ships over the woke, hyper emotional unravelling types like prince harry,

especially in times we are pregnant or or or we have an intruder in the house. i speak from experience there, by the way. it is time to applaud the british character of the stiff upper lip that has helped forge a small island into one of the superpowers. the world sees today. bring it back and let's celebrate it. >> hmm. >> hmm. >> benjamin . i mean, benjamin. >> benjamin. i mean, benjamin. i don't agree. >> i mean, ijust thought. look, i'm questioning. that a i'm not questioning. that is a good you could good father, because you could see between the two. see the love between the two. and so that was rather nice to see. was another see. but there was another moment episode where sam moment in that episode where sam thompson, chelsea thompson, the made in chelsea youtuber his best mate youtuber guy, saw his best mate and cried and hugged and those two men told each other they love each other. and i thought, how fantastic to see, you know, straight men behaving like that, so comfortable with their own emotions. that was what i admired, know , that is a admired, you know, that is a modern man, someone who is able to communicate love to communicate their love but can't think there can't you? i think there are too, too many emotionally constipated this country constipated men in this country for whom they get torn apart inside because they can't level with other men. isn't there space for both types of men?

>> god, every single man was >> god, if every single man was an record all the an emotional record all the time. no, i'm sorry. we would get nowhere in life. i'd feel really insecure a country if really insecure as a country if they'd at the slightest offence. >> i thought nigel >> i actually thought nigel seemed emotional in that seemed quite emotional in that interaction. nigel, he interaction. well, for nigel, he was, but he wiped away a tear to see him saying he genuinely see him saying he was genuinely quite . quite emotional. >> the idea you have to do this kind of mawkish, overwrought sentimentality. i think it's just awful. you can, if you like. >> he doesn't do it that way. >> he doesn't do it that way. >> fine. but i feel though >> it's fine. but i feel though now we've too far in the now we've gone too far in the opposite direction and there's a social pressure to be seen social pressure now to be seen as like being in touch with your emotions. i just think emotions. and i just think it's it ridiculous. it can be ridiculous. >> think a lot of men of >> but i think a lot of men of that you know, have really that age, you know, have really struck with connecting with struck gold with connecting with their because don't their family because they don't have the vocabulary, the emotional have the vocabulary, the em�*well, l have the vocabulary, the em�*well, i haven't that for >> well, i haven't had that for my very similar to my father, who's very similar to that. say he loves me that. he doesn't say he loves me in but he does it in in words, but he does it in actions. and i think that's far more important emotional history. >> to hi story. >> to leave history. >> to leave it there. but >> have to leave it there. but vou >> have to leave it there. but volt farage and thanks for aukus tonight. next up, the tonight. next up, it's the

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davies. but first, let's get your latest news headlines from sophia . sophia. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . a 16 wenzler in the newsroom. a 16 year old boy has been charged with the murder of leon gordon, who was shot dead in east london on tuesday evening. the boy has also been charged with the attempted murder of a 20 year old man and a 16 year old boy. he was also charged with possession of a firearm and possession of a firearm and possession with intent supply possession with intent to supply class drugs . he will appear at class a drugs. he will appear at barkingside magistrates court on monday . matt police have monday. matt police have arrested two protesters at a pro—palestine march in london today and are appealing for the public's help to identify a woman . it's public's help to identify a woman. it's part of an investigation into a placard carried at the protest earlier today. the met police released an image on social media and have appealed for the woman to come forward. thousands of people gathered to call for a ceasefire in gaza . the met