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sources say the mps will decide whether to support the legislation tomorrow or if necessary, hold a second meeting ahead of the vote. that evening . ahead of the vote. that evening. the labour leader will warn the tories can no longer govern the country because warring camps are, as he describes, fighting like rats in a sack in a speech on the same day as the scheduled vote on the government's rwanda policy, he'll claim it's labour that shares britain's values. shadow work and pensions secretary liz kendall told broadcasters labour would scrap the rwanda plan in favour of a new scheme, including an elite cross border force to stop illegal migration. despite the pressures over the £290 million policy that's been marred by legal challenges, the prime minister called on labour to back his emergency legislation if israeli tanks are battling to reach gaza's main southern city. after ordering civilians to evacuate khan younis was hit by heavy bombardment through the night as the israel defence forces advanced. israel's prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu says international calls to end the war are inconsistent . don't war are inconsistent. don't briefing his cabinet. netanyahu told the leaders of france, germany and other countries. you cannot on the one hand, support the elimination of hamas and on the elimination of hamas and on the other pressure us to end the war, which would prevent the elimination of the terror group . elimination of the terror group. a mother has been charged with manslaughter after her two sets of twins died in a south london house. fire in 2021. the children, aged three and four, were home when the ground floor of the house became engulfed in flames. they were treated at the scene before being taken to two south london hospitals where they were pronounced dead . they were pronounced dead. police say 29 year old devika rose is also charged with child abandonment and she's expected to appear in court tomorrow . the to appear in court tomorrow. the mayor of london says the met police is chronically underfunded . in a letter to the underfunded. in a letter to the home secretary sadiq khan says london faces unique pressures as
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a capital city, and he's urging the home office to boost the force's finances. he says the underfunding is highlighted by the challenge of policing the protests over the conflict in israel and gaza. mr khan warns the funding gap could now be as. high as £240 million. the scottish government is under pressure to expedite a bill forcing sex offenders to notify police if they're changing their genden police if they're changing their gender. police scotland currently don't keep records on sex offenders who've undergone gender reassignment, and there's no requirement to report this. it comes as the gender recognition reform bill went through holyrood before it was blocked by the uk government. the court ruled the unprecedented use of section 35 was lawful. reject mounting a challenge from the scottish government . at least six people government. at least six people have died after tornadoes hit tennessee in the us. severe storms left tens of thousands of people without power. one tornado was caught on video by an eyewitness causing electrical flashes and an explosion . three
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flashes and an explosion. three people, including two adults and a child, were killed in clarksville. three others were killed in nashville. officials say the casualty figures are likely to rise . and buckingham likely to rise. and buckingham palace have revealed this year's christmas cards are a combination of regal and relaxed. the prince and princess of wales went for a monochrome photo showing the family all wearing plain shirts and denim . wearing plain shirts and denim. king charles and queen camilla have chosen a portrait from the coronation stand side by side with the king wearing the imperial state crown and queen camilla wearing queen mary's crown . you're with gb news crown. you're with gb news across the uk on tv , in your car across the uk on tv, in your car or on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . darren >> thanks very much, tatiana. let's get stuck into today's topic, shall we? as you've just
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heard in the bulletins there, gb news understands that tory mps will give their verdict on whether the rwanda bill is workable. conservative mp sir bill cash, a veteran of the eurosceptic cause, will present the findings ahead of the crunch. second reading vote on tuesday . the prime minister has tuesday. the prime minister has come under pressure after it was discovered he paid £240 million, presumably not out of his own pocket. by the way, that's your money towards the rwanda plan . money towards the rwanda plan. without a single asylum seeker yet to be relocated, there . yet to be relocated, there. well, joining me to debate this is the political commentator, matthew stadlen, and former special adviser to michael gove . special adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley . charlie, i mean, charlie rowley. charlie, i mean, are you optimistic? i'm going to ask you to play mystic meg. i mean, do you think actually is going to be able to get this through? are you optimistic ? through? are you optimistic? michael was out on the broadcast round this morning. of course. yeah. >> think i think yeah. >> thinkithink will. yeah. >> think i think will. as >> i think i think it will. as was david davis, who was a former shadow home secretary, former shadow home secretary, former secretary is former brexit secretary is someone who is on the right of
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the party itself, who believes that be that these proposals will be voted through. >> may be a small >> there may be a small rebellion of people that hold this issue closely to their this issue very closely to their hearts, but there is a bigger picture at these are the picture at play. these are the most forward thinking proposals that have come forward by this government by the government and by the conservatives their 30 conservatives under their 30 years it direct years of power. it gives direct control ministers to have the control to ministers to have the final say when it comes to deportations. withdraws us, deportations. it withdraws us, the uk, from things like the echr and the human rights act, which stops and prevents people using mechanisms as a way using those mechanisms as a way of avoiding deportation . an and of avoiding deportation. an and it is something that i think balances both wings of the conservative party which is, i think, something can conservative party which is, i thinbehind.thing can conservative party which is, i thinbehind. but; can conservative party which is, i thinbehind. but do can conservative party which is, i thinbehind. but do you can conservative party which is, i thinbehind. but do you think an conservative party which is, i thinbehind. but do you think the get behind. but do you think the one nation group are going to say, yeah, fine and it say, yeah, this is fine and it will of international law will breach of international law here and there. >> are to be okay >> there are going to be okay with that? >> well, i think it's not necessarily breaching international law, but just making you voted international law, but just mepeople you voted international law, but just mepeople did you voted international law, but just mepeople did in you voted international law, but just mepeople did in 2016, you voted international law, but just mepeople did in 2016, to>u voted international law, but just mepeople did in 2016, to taketed as people did in 2016, to take back control of money, borders and laws , that actually it is and laws, that actually it is the parliament that is the uk parliament that is offering. it is the uk government that has the power.
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that going be that isn't going to be overridden by a subset of lawyers because this is an issue that i think constituencies that i think many constituencies right country, right across the country, whether north or the whether in the north or the south or the midlands, it's one that to people. that really matters to people. >> you know, matthew, i think i'm with you this one, in i'm with you on this one, in which i think haven't got which i think they haven't got a hope hell really, this hope in hell really, of this actually delivering anything. >> i haven't said anything. >> well, i'm putting words into your matthew. >> well, i'm putting words into you look, matthew. >> well, i'm putting words into youlook, charliethew. >> well, i'm putting words into youlook, charlie may be right >> look, charlie may be right that it through. that they get it through. >> may. be right. because >> may. may be right. because i think the tories sense an think the tories will sense an existential they existential crisis if they don't. nonetheless, apart existential crisis if they don'tthat, nonetheless, apart existential crisis if they don'tthat, ionetheless, apart existential crisis if they don'tthat, i couldeless, apart existential crisis if they don'tthat, i could not;, apart existential crisis if they don'tthat, i could not disagree from that, i could not disagree with charlie more strongly. lovely man. >> he is. >> though he is. >> though he is. >> it's quite >> i mean, it's quite extraordinary. first of all, he is dividing his own on his is dividing his own party on his flagship policy, on a flagship area of policy that they have had such a long time to get right and keep getting wrong . so right and keep getting wrong. so that's the first thing. the more rwanda is in the headlines, the more conservative mps will lose their seats. >> this is a disastrous policy. >> this is a disastrous policy. >> i think the vast majority of the british public, even if some
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of them still support the idea of them still support the idea of sending people to rwanda, have worked out. now that it isn't going to work in practice . isn't going to work in practice. >> so i agree with that. but then what is the labour party actually proposing ? and that is actually proposing? and that is going what the going to bring about what the british want, which is british people want, which is actually have an operating actually to have an operating border policy in britain. but there are no easy answers to this. >> i think we can all agree there are a lot of people in northern france who desperately want come to this country. want to come to this country. >> some of them will be absolutely legitimate asylum >> some of them will be absolute others imate asylum >> some of them will be absolute others imat be sylum seekers. others will be searching for a life and searching for a better life and to prepared risk their lives in the process. there might be some young there been sent young men there who've been sent by their families from difficult parts world don't parts of the world who don't absolutely come to absolutely have to come to britain but really want to do and i don't know whether the british state is equipped to stop them from coming if they manage to stop the boats, which is visible problem for is a very visible problem for the government, going the government, are they going to try and get on lorries? and so forth? so this isn't an easy answer, think starmer has answer, but i think starmer has been on his part been quite clear on his part that he is going to work in
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credibly hard to to hunt credibly hard to try to hunt down these that doesn't down these gangs. that doesn't mean judicially. that mean extradite judicially. that doesn't the sas. it doesn't mean with the sas. it means using enforcement. doesn't mean with the sas. it means using enforcement . and means using law enforcement. and also, think he has a better also, i think he has a better chance of getting the french on side. easy task than this side. no easy task than this conservative government because he tainted by brexit. he isn't tainted by brexit. >> well, i mean , what i would >> well, i mean, what i would say to that is actually relation as rowley with the eu as charlie rowley with the eu have been quite good since the windsor framework was signed and rishi sunak has had actually quite good friendship with with the with his european partners. but still, you know, we've handed over half £1 billion to the french and all of the viewers are saying, why are we spending all of this money, hundreds of millions of taxpayer pounds and it's not actually delivering anything ? delivering anything? >> well, the one thing that the government say that >> well, the one thing that the gover|small say that >> well, the one thing that the gover|small boat say that >> well, the one thing that the gover|small boat crossings,iat these small boat crossings, having established that partnership france and partnership with france and giving as you rightly say, giving them, as you rightly say, a of money to help stem the a lot of money to help stem the problem those small, problem is that those small, small crossings are by small boat crossings are down by a third. so and when you're seeing in the mediterranean and
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particularly the particularly across europe, the migrant crisis migrant or migrant crisis or migrant or migration , illegal migration is migration, illegal migration is up. so that is a success that i think the government can rightly claim. obviously, rwanda, we talk about the numbers of potentially sending to rwanda . potentially sending to rwanda. of course you're not going to be able to send thousands upon thousands of people to rwanda, but thatit but the whole point is that it will clear that this is will be very clear that this is an issue about fairness. if you want to come to this country, if you work hard, play by you want to work hard, play by the rules, do right thing. the rules, do the right thing. you absolutely welcome do you are absolutely welcome to do so the legitimate means. you are absolutely welcome to do so if the legitimate means. you are absolutely welcome to do so if comeegitimate means. you are absolutely welcome to do so if come into nate means. you are absolutely welcome to do so if come into this means. but if you come into this country illegally, which is totally on numbers of totally unfair on the numbers of people that you do want to see into the country to do jobs to, and i say, have a better life and as i say, have a better life and as i say, have a better life and prosperous life for the future. illegally future. those that are illegally coming country would be coming into the country would be sent rwanda, that would sent to rwanda, and that would act deterrent to stop even act as a deterrent to stop even more small. more people making that small. >> spell this out. >> let me spell this out. absolutely three things, absolutely clearly three things, right? i do not support the boats. could anyone support right? i do not support the boats. comingld anyone support right? i do not support the boats. coming here yone support right? i do not support the boats. coming here in1e support right? i do not support the boats. coming here in onsupport right? i do not support the boats. coming here in on import right? i do not support the boats. coming here in on in such people coming here in on in such a dangerous manner? so to be completely crystal clear about
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that so second point, rishi sunak the prime minister of this country staked his credibility at the beginning of this year by telling us he was going to end the boats. this year. it now the boats. this year. it is now december i'm right december the 10th. if i'm right and he is, he is resorting to boasting about stopping a third of the boats. so his credibility is shot on the substance of the policy itself, i think it is sinister that the government is trying to block the courts in advance. it sounds a bit dictatorship to me, but most importantly , he is going to try importantly, he is going to try to persuade parliament to lie to itself and to lie to the british people and pretending that rwanda is a safe country, it is not a safe country. and i'll explain in about 10s why not the president? paul kagame i can't believe this needs spelling out. still was re—elected in 2017, not with 50% of the vote, something that prime ministers and parties of power in this country don't get. not with 60, 70, 80% of the vote with 99% of the vote. i wouldn't want to be an asylum seeker in rwanda.
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>> yeah, well, just because they have a president who receives a 99% support, how do you think he how do you think he receives that support? >> darren? well he must be a very popular man. >> he must. >> he must. >> guys, come on. you know, there are people that are better placed to deal with the idea of brand as a country, but we've had home secretaries had successive home secretaries that gone there that have that have gone there that have set up scheme, that have set up the scheme, that have looked set up the scheme, that have loo the supreme court actually at >> the supreme court actually at times it was an times didn't rule that it was an unsafe country . it was a unsafe country. it was just a small risk that might be needed to have tightened up. and to have been tightened up. and that's the government that's what the uk government has what is just has done. but what is just totally unacceptable is the idea that wholesale, court in that a wholesale, a court in this country when the uk government should be sovereign, should say. it is should have the final say. it is the uk government that people elected i say, take back elected to, as i say, take back control of money, borders and laws the 2016 vote. no, laws that was the 2016 vote. no, i campaign, but i wasn't on that campaign, but that's people voted. that's what people voted. >> so i accept that as as sunak staked on trying >> so i accept that as as sunak stisend on trying >> so i accept that as as sunak stisend asylum on trying >> so i accept that as as sunak stisend asylum seekers trying to send asylum seekers to a country where the president gets 99% of the vote. his own percentage of the vote is going
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to and down and down. to go down and down and down. >> but lot of them are not >> but a lot of them are not asylum seekers. >> it's a very different sort know. a lot of them are economic migrants to migrants that are just trying to come into which is an come into rwanda, which is an autocratic regime with a terrible history of civil rights, of rights rights, abuses, of human rights abuses. comes abuses. but the fairness comes at the expense of the uk taxpayer uk communities, taxpayer and uk communities, where pressure on public services where have services comes where you have too are too many people that are entering country illegally. entering the country illegally. there a very, very there needs to be a very, very strong message to those people that do come into this that if you do come into this country illegally, not country illegally, you will not be able to stay. so i agree with that. >> there e there are that. >> there are two points that >> and there are two points that i firstly matthew, i i would make. firstly matthew, i think you've got to recognise that actually parliament, the whole of whole point and premise of brexit, right, that brexit, right, was that parliament would be supreme and that any that parliament wouldn't any longer laws that longer have the laws that the people this country keep people of this country keep voting sidelined and voting for be sidelined and overruled by foreign courts. >> parliament, parliament is indeed sovereign. >> okay . but in indeed sovereign. >> okay. but in trying to indeed sovereign. >> okay . but in trying to block >> okay. but in trying to block the courts in advance, it is not respecting, in my view, the rule of law. let me give you another
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example. so we all agree that parliament is sovereign and you're right, a lot of people voted for brexit, i think not really on immigration actually, but of sovereignty, but because of sovereignty, because remote outness of because of the remote outness of power given to eu power that was being given to eu institutions. the problem is if you carry this through ultra logically a parliament could legislate against any future general elections. if rishi sunak said to his majority of mps, no, what it's true , isn't it? >> that's it's. >> that's it's. >> well, it is. trying to give an example of why this idea of parliament sovereignty does actually have practical and important limitations. and on the issue of a deterrent, i'm for all a deterrent, a reasonable and robust deterrent so that people can't play the system. but i mean, we don't, for example, go out and shoot them as some people have suggested, shooting the boats or dragging them back, imperilling lives france. have to lives back to france. we have to have what our have limits on what our deterrents are and sending people rwanda , which an people to rwanda, which is an autocracy, is far too far in the wrong direction. >> listen, i actually think turning back the boats has its merits because you put what
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australia did was put people in unsinkable vessels that float and pushed them back to and then pushed them back to where they came from . where they came from. >> we wouldn't push them doing that. >> look, if it was compatible with international law and if france would allow it, if we could pick up people in the channel put them safely into our boats and then take them back to france, well then i would support that. but don't think support that. but i don't think that's possible. it that's possible. otherwise it would have been done. >> don't think it's >> well, i don't think it's possible rishi sunak possible because rishi sunak wants a little bit too wants to be a little bit too pally emmanuel macron, pally with emmanuel macron, that's well, think that's why. well, i think actually i don't give a rat's bottom about to be bottom about that to be perfectly with you, charlie. >> but irony you know, >> but the irony is, you know, voting leave the eu and i voting to leave the eu and i totally understand respect why people did that. >> and that's what you've accepted and we've moved accepted that and we've moved on. absolutely where on. and that's absolutely where we today. you've still we are today. but you've still got it's got to have i mean, it's no irony that since the eu irony that since leaving the eu that might have a bit that there might have been a bit of a breakdown in relations with france, but you've got to repair those you need european those because you need european partners to help stem the migration people don't partners to help stem the migiturni people don't partners to help stem the migiturn up people don't partners to help stem the migiturn up calaisle don't partners to help stem the migiturn up calais and )n't partners to help stem the migiturn up calais and then just turn up to calais and then take small boating, small boat take a small boating, small boat crossing the
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crossing into dover or the shores of south—east of shores of the south—east of kent. is a systemic issue kent. it is a systemic issue right across europe, you need right across europe, so you need to work with european counterparts. but i just to counterparts. but i just want to go respond to go forward just a respond to matt, because, you know, look, you're sunak you're right, rishi sunak set out of priorities out his five sort of priorities at the start of the year and at the end of the year it was to stop the boats. now those boats crossings a third. crossings are down by a third. it over yet. there's it isn't over yet. there's obviously a lot more work that needs done, and that needs to be done, and that includes the new legislation that's going to voted on that's going to be voted on next week. can either a week. but you can either have a prime minister and a conservative government that is trying relentlessly on conservative government that is tryi|of relentlessly on conservative government that is tryi|of this 1tlessly on conservative government that is tryi|of this issue .y on conservative government that is tryi|of this issue that on conservative government that is tryi|of this issue that matters top of this issue that matters top of this issue that matters to right this to communities right across this country, have an country, or you have an alternative a labour alternative government, a labour prime labour prime minister, a labour government do government that would do absolutely nothing. >> but as every single >> but as oppose every single measure this government >> but as oppose every single meeforward this government >> but as oppose every single meeforward to :his government >> but as oppose every single meeforward to stopiovernment >> but as oppose every single meeforward to stop this nment >> but as oppose every single meeforward to stop this crisis. put forward to stop this crisis. >> completely >> that's completely disingenuous. know, disingenuous. dan, you know, keir going to keir starmer is not going to say, come on to the boats. >> he wants to he wants to process claims in this country. it is absolutely right that we need top of the boats. need to get on top of the boats. >> i don't think you'll find anyone the labour party anyone in the labour party suggesting shouldn't. no suggesting that we shouldn't. no one are talking
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one senior but we are talking about rwanda. this is a tiny proportion of immigration and the can't to pay the country can't afford to pay its bills. >> yeah, well, i agree with that. time when that. you know, at a time when arsenal football for arsenal football team, for example, rwanda on example, have visit rwanda on the side of the arms, i don't think this is my team, my some dictatorship arsenal dictatorship that arsenal is keir starmer actually give keir starmer did actually give an arsenal i think to a an arsenal shirt i think to a foreign so foreign dignitary rwanda on so there anyway matthew there we are. but anyway matthew stadlen charlie rowley, there we are. but anyway matthew stadleyou charlie rowley, there we are. but anyway matthew stadleyou very arlie rowley, there we are. but anyway matthew stadleyou very muchtowley, there we are. but anyway matthew stadleyou very much forley, there we are. but anyway matthew stadleyou very much for your thank you very much for your time there. now, folks, for all your best analysis on those stories and opinion and so stories is and opinion and so much you can go our much more, you can go to our website, gbnews.com. you're website, gb news.com. you're watching website, gbnews.com. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday me, darren news sunday with me, darren grimes. loads more grimes. we've got loads more coming today's show, coming up on today's show, including rishi sunak will be questioned by the covid inquiry next week over his claims that scientists had too much power and that ministers failed to properly consider the economic and societal impacts of lockdown . how will the prime minister stand up in that inquiry? all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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and people that i knew had dewbs & co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six welcome back to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes on your tv online and on digital radio. >> now on monday, rishi sunak will become the latest high profile politician to give evidence to the covid inquiry , evidence to the covid inquiry, where he's expected to be challenged over his claims that
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scientists had too much power dunng scientists had too much power during the pandemic and that ministers failed to properly consider the economic and societal impact of lockdown. the prime minister is also expected to be challenged over the eat out to help out scheme . he out to help out scheme. he implemented, of course, as chancellor of the exchequer, which has been blamed by some for fuelling a rise in covid cases in summer of 2020. let's see what my panel make of this backis see what my panel make of this back is the political commentator, matthew stadlen and former special adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley . michael gove. charlie rowley. charlie explained to when were you special adviser to michael dunng you special adviser to michael during the pandemic? >> yes. yes. so you will have had a first front row seat into how all of this went down. >> do you think rishi was irresponsive able in actually putting about the eat out to help out scheme that some now say sparked an increase in covid cases ? cases? >>i cases? >> i wouldn't say it was irresponsible. no. i think irresponsible. no. ithink you've got to during the pandemic, understand that your balancing obviously a health balancing was obviously a health crisis. so people's lives. but you've people's
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you've also got people's livelihoods at stake. and i think what rishi is trying to articulate and rightly so, is that there was a obviously a very strong health view and lots of advice coming from the chief scientific officer, the chief medical officer, sage committees , lots of health professionals putting pressure on the prime minister to do what is right in the interests of health. that is their job. the interests of health. that is theirjob. they are advisers, but ultimately the decisions that are taken are taken by politicians. they have to take responsibility for everything thatis responsibility for everything that is related to the health pandemic . and it did seem to me pandemic. and it did seem to me and i think this is what the prime minister will go on to say, inquiry, is that perhaps after the first lockdown going forward, when you were looking at a tiering system, when you were at alternatives were looking at alternatives to try the country, we try and unlock the country, we there much focus on just there was too much focus on just what tighter regulations or just reverting back to lockdown and just having a heavy handed set of restrictions as opposed to being more creative in our
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thinking about how certain sectors can still open sectors can still remain open whilst trying to manage this pandemic. and i think if you were not part of the school of thought, if you agreed with perhaps the health secretary and the professionals the the medical professionals at the very top were sort of just very top who were sort of just asking more restrictions and asking for more restrictions and non—pharmaceutical interventions, npis, as they're called , then you were discarded. called, then you were discarded. you weren't consulted, you were dropped weren't dropped off emails, you weren't part conversation. part of the conversation. i think that will be proven the think that will be proven by the inquiry detrimental to the inquiry to be detrimental to the wider how wider argument of how the government better government could have better handled pandemic to do what handled this pandemic to do what it exactly set out to do, what it exactly set out to do, what it set out to do, which is to protect and livelihoods . protect lives and livelihoods. >> i mean, matthew, do you think actually well, things, actually well, two things, really. think the labour really. do you think the labour party could have done any better a job? and secondly, do you not think that this shows leadership qualities in that qualities in rishi sunak in that actually probably the actually he was probably the most around the most senior person around the cabinet table that was saying, hang on a minute, putting hang on a minute, we're putting too argument too much weight on one argument and enough the societal and not enough on the societal and not enough on the societal and impact of the and economic impact of the measures that were placed in in
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place draconian measures in place, impacting the whole nation. >> really difficult to answer the question about labour for, you know, counter—history counterfactual history. what would have happened had keir starmer been the prime minister at the time? i suspect he would have been much better fitted for such a responsible role than bofis such a responsible role than boris johnson, who i think there's a sort of growing consensus wrong man for consensus was the wrong man for that type of job. whether you're a fan his in other areas or a fan of his in other areas or not. i mean, starmer developed this the this reputation amongst the tories , didn't he, as sort of tories, didn't he, as sort of captain hindsight at times dunng captain hindsight at times during i think he during the pandemic, i think he was curve at was ahead of the curve at important moments. but this wider question, it's going to be a very difficult week for the prime minister. he's got rwanda coming up, looming large, as we've discussed, he's we've discussed, but he's also going forensic examined in going to be forensic examined in this i suspect he'll this inquiry. i suspect he'll come out of the forensic examination part of things reasonably . he's he's a reasonably well. he's he's a smooth talker . but it reasonably well. he's he's a smooth talker. but it is really interesting , this bigger interesting, this bigger question which goes beyond personalities, beyond party
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politics, can this public inquiry, which was costing a lot of money and taking a lot of time answer essential questions, did we get it right ? did we get did we get it right? did we get the balance between saving lives and saving the economy right ? and saving the economy right? and what were the negative health effects of lockdowns and how many people's lives did they actually save? was there enough focus put on the economy ? focus put on the economy? because if the economy goes downhill , it because if the economy goes downhill, it has an indirect impact on on people's health and potentially even on mortality. these are essential questions. and as far as whether conversations were open enough within government, whether the economic side of things were being considered enough, i think it is very important that the government have those open conversations and that's one thing that i think is quite tncky thing that i think is quite tricky about all these whatsapp exchanges coming out. very unsavoury though some of them were think ministers have were is i think ministers have and their advisers have to be able to be free to brain storm things sometimes in quite extreme terms order to get to extreme terms in order to get to the right answer or as close to the right answer or as close to
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the right answer as they can. yeah. >> and that actually raises a really important point for me, charlie, i think lot charlie, because i think a lot of this is a sort of an attempt to go through people's whatsapp messages some political messages to get some political gossip that they can throw on the pages of newspapers. the front pages of newspapers. >> of actually >> others, instead of actually saying look, let's look at the saying, look, let's look at the evidence, let's look at comparable countries who followed paths to the followed different paths to the one we decided to go down, in which i think we were probably one of the countries with a more robust post lockdown, certainly within the west . i'm not within the west. i'm not comparing us to the likes of china. of course, but i actually think we should be looking at the evidence elsewhere and comparing it with the evidence here instead of saying, well, i want to get my mitts on boris johnson's whatsapps because that might be some juicy gossip . might be some juicy gossip. >> i think that's absolutely right. i think that's where right. and i think that's where the are. look, we've the public are. look, we've had the public are. look, we've had the these whatsapps the leaking of these whatsapps for people are for some time, so people are aware that was language aware that there was a language that that were that was used, that there were conversations that been conversations that had been taking place fall way below conversations that had been taki standard fall way below conversations that had been taki standard that'sall way below conversations that had been taki standard that's expected slow conversations that had been taki standard that's expected ofrv the standard that's expected of whether senior adviser
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whether you're a senior adviser or a politician or a or very pefsoi'i person within the civil senior person within the civil service question think service the question i think that important for the that is important for the inquiry whatsapps inquiry amongst these whatsapps and a smaller in and it is a smaller one in comparison to the more major one about the decisions that were taken and lockdown widely. taken and lockdown more widely. but and the but did those relations and the breakdown in relationships clearly the over powerful clearly and the over powerful advisers or civil servants at time did that impact on the way in which decisions were made? did that slow down decision making because there were too many egos or because were many egos or because there were too with different too many people with different views? were different too many people with different viewof were different too many people with different view of trains were different too many people with different viewof trains going different too many people with different viewof trains going down ferent too many people with different viewof trains going down the nt sort of trains going down the track in two different directions . so track in two different directions. so i think the inquiry will have to look at that understand and that and understand and draw conclusions whether conclusions as to whether relations personalities relations and personalities were detrimental to then detrimental cause to then presenting things to the prime minister and whether the culture of having conversations of having those conversations was right wrong. was right or wrong. >> not enough women and not enough boris johnson himself enough as boris johnson himself has have been has suggested, might have been a problem. exactly >> you know, helen >> so and you know, helen macnamara who her evidence macnamara who gave her evidence to the inquiry, sort of, to the to the inquiry, sort of, you know, and priti patel, i
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think, sort of raised the issue of domestic and how do of domestic violence. and how do you how do you help you sort of how how do you help people in that particular situation when you're imposing a lockdown? was sort of lockdown? and that was sort of glossed because there glossed over because there was so focus on lockdown for so much focus on lockdown for a health intervention as opposed to that more civil to one that was more civil liberty or civil liberties, civil society , domestic civil society, domestic abuse. >> papers today , we've >> in the papers today, we've learned this. think tank, learned from this. think tank, i think, and iain duncan smith has been on the channel talking about this, about the ways in which poorer people were so negative , impacted by our negative, impacted by our response to the pandemic . it response to the pandemic. it doesn't in and of itself mean that the response was definitely wrong. but it has to be taken into account. absolutely put into account. absolutely put into the as we move forward into the mix as we move forward so that we understand this bunds. so that we understand this blinds . it so that we understand this blinds. it was clear that this blindsided government boris blindsided government, boris johnson was johnson himself, and this was perfectly even without perfectly obvious, even without heanng perfectly obvious, even without hearing testimony, said hearing his testimony, has said this should have this week that he should have twigged quickly as to the twigged more quickly as to the seriousness covid. i mean, we seriousness of covid. i mean, we all remember cavalier all remember his cavalier approach. remember him. approach. we remember him. >> let's not forget, that's true. >> but before he nearly died, he started shaking
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started boasting about shaking hands where hands in hospital where he thought might thought there might be covid patients have be better patients. we have to be better prepared next time round and we have to look at things in the round. and the inquiry round. and if the inquiry doesn't these sorts of doesn't answer these sorts of fundamental have fundamental questions and i have my suspicions won't or my suspicions that it won't or won't to, then think won't be able to, then i think it will failed . it will have failed. >> well, i agree that. >> well, i agree with that. thank very matthew thank you very much, matthew stadlen. and to charlie rowley, there as folks, you are there as well. folks, you are watching listening watching and listening to gb news with darren news sunday with me, darren grimes. loads more grimes. we've got loads more coming today's show. first coming up on today's show. first of though, going to of all, though, we're going to get news with tatyana . get the news with tatyana. >> darren, thank you. 131. this is the latest from the newsroom. gb news understands tomorrow tory mps will give their verdict on whether the rwanda bill is workable. conservative mps sir bill cash will present the findings ahead of the crunch. second reading vote on tuesday . second reading vote on tuesday. the prime minister has come under pressure after it was discovered he paid £240 million towards the rwanda plan without
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a single asylum seeker. yet to be relocated there to. sources say the mps will decide whether to support the legislation tomorrow or, if necessary, hold a second meeting ahead of the vote that evening . the labour vote that evening. the labour leader will warn the tories can no longer govern the country because warring camps , as he because warring camps, as he describes fighting like rats in a sack. in a speech on the same day as the scheduled vote on the government's rwanda policy, he'll claim it's labour that shares britain's values. despite the pressures over the £240 million policy that's been marred by legal challenges, the prime minister called on labour to back his emergency legislation . on israeli tanks legislation. on israeli tanks are battling to reach gaza's main southern city after ordering civilians to evacuate. khan younis was hit by heavy bombardment through the night as israel defence forces advanced. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says international calls to end the war are inconsistent. briefing his cabinet, netanyahu told the
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leaders of france, germany and other countries, you cannot , on other countries, you cannot, on the one hand, support the elimination of hamas and on the other pressure us to end the war, which would prevent the elimination of the terror group . elimination of the terror group. and buckingham palace have revealed this year's christmas cards are a combination of regal and relaxed. the prince and princess of wales went for a monochrome photo showing the family all wearing plain shirts and denim. king charles and queen camilla have chosen a portrait from the coronation. standing side by side with the king wearing the imperial state crown and queen camilla wearing queen mary's crown . for more on queen mary's crown. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website, gb news wgrz.com. now back to . darren wgrz.com. now back to. darren thanks , tatyana. thanks, tatyana. >> we've got loads more coming up on today's show. can labour save the nhs? shadow health secretary wes streeting reckons he can. he's been praising
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singapore's high tech healthcare system , as polls continue to system, as polls continue to suggest he will soon be in charge of the island nhs. but first of all, we're going to get a look at the weather with . ellie >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glaisyer. low pressure still very much in charge of our weather over the next couple of days, bringing us some unsettled conditions and some wet and windy weather on the way. storm fergus eireann fergus named by met eireann slowly continues to move its way towards the uk through the rest slowly continues to move its way torsundaye uk through the rest slowly continues to move its way torsunday and through the rest slowly continues to move its way torsunday and into�*ugh the rest slowly continues to move its way torsunday and into monday rest slowly continues to move its way torsunday and into monday .est slowly continues to move its way torsunday and into monday. this of sunday and into monday. this will bring rain spreading its way parts scotland and way across parts of scotland and this falling on way across parts of scotland and this very falling on way across parts of scotland and this very saturated ng on way across parts of scotland and this very saturated ground with some very saturated ground with further rain pushing across northern parts england northern parts of england through early of through the early hours of monday strong monday morning. some very strong winds , too, particularly across winds, too, particularly across western wales and western parts of wales and through the bristol channel, where see those where we could see those gusts up an hour. up to 60 miles an hour. temperatures across the south around 7 or 8 degrees, but across parts of scotland, we could down minus or could see down to minus one or minus with some icy
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minus two with some icy stretches, for stretches, particularly for south—west, south—west scotland through the early hours of monday morning. elsewhere, though, generally starts though, monday generally starts a drier and brighter day for most of us. plenty of sunshine as through the as we head through the afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirting in across northern parts england eastern parts of england and eastern scotland, seeing scotland, as well as seeing those continue to push those showers continue to push in coast. but with in from the coast. but with those with those lighter winds and with some perhaps feeling some sunshine perhaps feeling a little than recent little more pleasant than recent days. degrees the days. around 12 degrees in the south and generally around average, further north. tuesday starts a cloudy and wet picture again as rain continues to push northwards into parts of scotland. again, already falling on saturated ground . on that very saturated ground. so some localised flooding here that sets us up for further rain through rest of tuesday and through the rest of tuesday and into . but perhaps into wednesday. but perhaps hints of something a little more settled way through the settled on the way through the latter of week . latter half of next week. >> who is it? we're here for the show . welcome to the dinosaur show. welcome to the dinosaur hour with me, john cleese . ha! hour with me, john cleese. ha! that was married to a therapist.
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so far to the left and the right of the party need to take control so that the party can introduce conservative policies and ben habib might have a thing or two to say about that. peter says i think labour are so worried that the rwanda scheme might they're might work that they're trying to undermine sunak well, keep your views coming in much more important than mine. subscribe to our youtube channel and follow us on socials. we're at at gb news. now folks, in what many would consider an extraordinary interview session by a labour politician , the by a labour politician, the shadow health secretary, wes streeting , has said that the nhs streeting, has said that the nhs use every winter crisis as an excuse for extra cash , a bit excuse for extra cash, a bit like oliver twist saying please sir, can i have some more? and that britain can actually learn from singapore's high tech hospitals. he also praised the health care system being centred around patients and giving a hint of his own vision for the nhs. should he ever take charge of britain's ailing health care system. so our labour, the party
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to save the nhs. let's bring in my panel, deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib, is with me now and the political commentator matthew stadlen is still here. now ben habib it does ring true, does it not, that the only party that can fundamentally reform the nhs is the labour party, right? if the tories try doing it well, people will cry bloody selling it off. exactly all of that. >> well, i mean the nhs is very different to the singaporean health system . you know, our health system. you know, our system goes back to 1948. i think by memory, and it, it is free at the point of delivery. it provides all kinds of health care right across the board. and of course it was introduced when the population was dying at a much younger age, when the population was much smaller, when treatments were not as varied and as broad as they are now, and nowhere near as expensive. and we've we face the challenge as a country of a rapidly growing population and
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as we have done with many other parts of our infrastructure being the first to develop often leaves you with legacy infrastructure that you know is problematic is you move on in time . singapore has obviously time. singapore has obviously joined . the developed world at joined. the developed world at a later stage. it's got a much smaller population. it's got a younger population. but here's the really remarkable thing. they spend about 4% of gdp on their health service. we spend more than twice that, and we're nowhere near as slick as they are. and so i think wes is absolutely wes streeting is absolutely wes streeting is absolutely right when he says it's not about money. and for those remainers and rejoiners who want to know what happened to the £350 million that was on the side of the bus. well, all of that per week has been spent and more since we left the eu and more since we left the eu and it still faces problems. it's not about money. it's about the kind of treatment we offer, the kind of treatment we offer, the infrastructure that we've got, the way we the way we have
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staffed the nhs and also so the bureaucracy, frankly , i know bureaucracy, frankly, i know it's a kind of big blob , easy it's a kind of big blob, easy answer, but there is a massive bureaucracy around the nhs. >> he says this. he says he's accused the health service of waste and inefficiency and you can't argue with that. >> no. >> you can't? no. >> you can't? no. >> i'm wondering, how >> matthew, i'm wondering, how much do you think his personal experiences have impacted the way he views the nhs? because of course, he had a cancer scare, didn't he? himself an and i'm wondering then this idea of giving patients power and more autonomy within the system itself. this is a man who recognises that we simply can't go on as we are really difficult to answer the question on how his own personal experience has shaped his politics, but how refreshing is it to have a politician saying , refreshing is it to have a politician saying, i'm along the lines of the nhs is not a shrine, it's a service? >> and for that politician to be a labour politician, i think there will be a lot of gb news
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viewers watching this afternoon who say hallelujah to that and you've got ben habib, is of you've got ben habib, who is of the reform party, which is very unaugned the reform party, which is very unaligned with labour on all sorts of issues, says rating this too. so i think it's very shrewd politics from wes streeting . i'm quite impressed streeting. i'm quite impressed by him and so long as it continues to be free on the point of delivery because that is something i am ideological about. i think it is a really important and good thing about our society . if there are our society. if there are savings to be made , if there are savings to be made, if there are efficiencies to be made , let's efficiencies to be made, let's get on and do that. let's have a reforming health secretary under the flagship of a labour government doing something to sort out these extraordinary waiting lists. does money have something to do with it? of course it has something to do with it. without any money, the whole thing would completely collapse. but it is on life support at the moment and i think combination of proper, think a combination of proper, sensible greater sensible investment and greater efficiency run well by a wes streeting type character is important .
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important. >> but ben, just briefly, the point there though, would be it's a bottomless pit. we're throwing money into it, but it's just coming straight back out at the bottom. >> not coming out. it's >> it's not coming out. it's just disappearing . just disappearing. >> we don't know where it's end. it is a bottomless pit. >> and, know, i completely >> and, you know, i completely agree with matt that should agree with matt that it should be point of be free at the point of delivery. but there are of delivery. but there are lots of medical treatments that the nhs provides aren't actually provides which aren't actually absolutely you absolutely necessary. and you know, think they do to know, i think they do need to they need and branch they need root and branch reform. be fair to wes reform. and to be fair to wes streeting, this is i don't think this is a party political electioneering thing. you know , electioneering thing. you know, like starmer came out the other day being a thatcherite. i don't think he's saying this because he's trying to gain votes. i think wes streeting actually believes been believes in this. he's been saying this about the nhs for some and do need some time and we do need a complete open debate about how to reform the nhs, perhaps reform uk can reform the nhs and you know, make it fit for the 21st century. >> i think the idea of it being
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a service rather than a shrine is critical, all because too often people all on the left look at the nhs and say, we can't brook any sort of criticism of it, whereas most of us will have had differing experiences , some good, some bad experiences, some good, some bad . i've experienced it myself . . i've experienced it myself. really wonderful service and some surprisingly poor service. so the idea that we shouldn't criticise it and that it is incapable of being reformed and improve and is for the birds. and finally we have a shadow health secretary who is brave enough to make that point. it might upset and alienate some on the left, but i think it electorally and this is where the politics comes in, i think is very shrewd and for the country, it's the right thing to do. >> well, i agree with that. but i wonder of it is wes i wonder how much of it is wes streeting attempt to maybe one day go for the leadership as well ? could he's day go for the leadership as well? could he's on well? it could be he's on manoeuvres, couldn't do much worse than some. >> well , that's ben habib's >> well, that's ben habib's view. >> well, that's ben habib's vieiand that was matthew sadler >> and that was matthew sadler before him . folks, we've before him. folks, we've got loads coming up as schools
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loads more coming up as schools place a disclaimer on teaching materials about diane abbott due to her controversial views , as to her controversial views, as we'll discuss whether politicians should have trigger warnings . all of that and more warnings. all of that and more to come. i'm darren grimes and you're watching. thank you very much. and listening. thank you very much to gb news, britain's news channel .
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six till 930. well come back to gb news sunday with me . gb news sunday with me. >> darren grimes on your tv on line and on digital radio. now we're asking folks , should we're asking folks, should politicians have trigger warnings? the discussion has ansen warnings? the discussion has arisen after it was revealed that classroom resources covering the life and career of diane abbott come with a trigger warning due to her so—called controversial views . now, the controversial views. now, the resources also suggest that young children should not be allowed to research her too thoroughly . so let's discuss thoroughly. so let's discuss this with my panel, deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib , leader of reform uk, ben habib, and political commentator matthew stadler . lynn, i and political commentator matthew stadler. lynn, i mean, the way in which they've framed it, matthew , is that the mp , the it, matthew, is that the mp, the member for hackney north and stoke newington , she had the stoke newington, she had the labour whip suspended , as you labour whip suspended, as you well know, earlier this year for a letter that she published in the observer which she
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the observer in which she suggested that jewish, irish and traveller people are not subject to racism all of their lives. you know, there's some how removed i was particularly upset by that letter because i think it compares said jewish people to ginger people . to ginger people. >> well, i'm both jewish and ginger, so i was losing on this. i mean, she she did. she did apologise. diane does sometimes come out with controversial statements. it's a seriously peculiar story . i don't like the peculiar story. i don't like the idea instinctively of students pupils being told not to research someone , anyone too research someone, anyone too deeply. if you've got to, you've got to encourage people to do their research and then have it challenged in the classroom. and if diane abbott is going to get a trigger warning, so should every politician. what every other politician. what i would that i think this would say is that i think this is in the context of her being looked at as a pioneer for black people in this country. she she looked at as a pioneer for black pean.e in this country. she she looked at as a pioneer for black pean incrediblyountry. she she looked at as a pioneer for black pean incredibly brave. she she looked at as a pioneer for black pean incredibly brave person. e is an incredibly brave person. whatever one thinks of her politics, got some politics, she's got some terrible, abuse over terrible, terrible abuse over the i think the the years. i think she was the first black female mp , and it's
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first black female mp, and it's in that context that might in that context that she might be and i suppose be being studied. and i suppose what trying is, what they're trying to say is, yes, is an achievement. but yes, that is an achievement. but by she also has by the way, guys, she also has some controversial views. >> indeed. but ben habib, >> well, indeed. but ben habib, i mean, let's be perfectly frank and going to be truthfully and i'm going to be truthfully honest here. i actually think she is divisive. she she race baits often. i think she can be really nasty . so, frankly , if really nasty. so, frankly, if i had kids, i wouldn't want them being accolades of diane abbott ehhen being accolades of diane abbott either, to be honest. >> i mean, you make a very serious point, i have to say. when saw the heading, it made when i saw the heading, it made me because notion me laugh because the notion of primary school, because it was aimed primary schools, aimed at primary schools, this, you know, primary school students wanting to read anything. diane abbott has to say. when i was at primary school, wouldn't care who school, i wouldn't care who diane abbott was. but the two trigger warnings apparently were one reading about the slave one for reading about the slave trade the other diane abbott trade and the other diane abbott and i mean, you know, poles apart . but anyway, on the apart. but anyway, on the serious note , i think she is you serious note, i think she is you know, she comes from that old labour fold where there were
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clearly undertones of anti semitism. i'm not accusing her of being anti—semitic, by the way, even though that article is deeply offensive to both people who are jewish as well as ginger and you know, she is a divisive politician. she's of that fold . politician. she's of that fold. you know, she she but to be fair to her, i suppose she is quite clear on where she stands on the political spectrum . um, so many political spectrum. um, so many politicians now , starmer politicians now, starmer included. you know, they wish to appeal to the left as well as to the right and wishy washy, dishy rishi is wishy washy. you know, we don't know where they stand. diane abbott you absolutely know everyone needs a trigger warning. yes, but i mean, i wonder then, you know, because there are there'll be no doubt kids being told, you know, if they research reform uk, dare i say actually you know that's a dodgy party. >> don't look at that one. >> don't look at that one. >> oh my goodness. >> oh my goodness. >> where do we draw the line. >> where do we draw the line. >> well this is this is my concern about trigger warnings.
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i mean, you raise the important point that this is about primary school children, but there is a wider discussion to had about wider discussion to be had about how are taught about how children are taught about politics and i politics in our schools. and i had good education. i was had a very good education. i was very fortunate with that. but i don't think we were ever really directly taught about british contemporary politics unless we happen politics happen to choose politics as a subject. and would be subject. and i think it would be a it came much later in life, not as a primary school. >> right, folks, we're going >> all right, folks, we're going to to leave abbott to have to leave diane abbott there. thank you very much, there. but thank you very much, ben habib and matthew stadlen. more a mo. now, more from them in a mo. now, folks, you are watching and listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, grimes . we've got me, darren grimes. we've got loads coming today's loads more coming up on today's show. first of all though, show. so first of all though, we're to get a look at the we're going to get a look at the weather with the lovely ellie, a brighter outlook with box solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm glaser. low pressure still very much in charge of our weather over the next couple of days, bringing us some unsettled conditions and some wet and
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windy weather on the way. storm fergus by met eireann fergus named by met eireann slowly continues to move its way towards through rest towards the uk through the rest of into monday. this of sunday and into monday. this will bring rain spreading its way parts scotland and way across parts of scotland and this falling on this rain already falling on some very saturated ground with further pushing across further rain pushing across northern england northern parts of england through hours of through the early hours of monday some very strong monday morning. some very strong winds particularly across winds to particularly across western wales western parts of wales and through the bristol channel, where we could those gusts where we could see those gusts up 60 miles an hour. up to 60 miles an hour. temperatures south temperatures across the south around but around 7 or 8 degrees, but across of scotland, we across parts of scotland, we could down to one or could see down to minus one or minus two with some icy stretches, particularly for southwest southwest scotland through hours of through the early hours of monday morning. elsewhere, though, generally starts though, monday, generally starts a and brighter day for a drier and brighter day for most plenty of sunshine most of us. plenty of sunshine as through the as we head through the afternoon, perhaps showers afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirting northern skirting in across northern parts england eastern parts of england and eastern scotland, as seeing scotland, as well as seeing those showers continue to push him from the coast. but with those lighter and with those lighter winds and with some feeling some sunshine perhaps feeling a little pleasant recent little more pleasant than recent days. degrees in the days. around 12 degrees in the south generally around south and generally around average, north. tuesday south and generally around averaga, north. tuesday
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south and generally around averaga cloudy north. tuesday south and generally around averaga cloudy and th. tuesday south and generally around averaga cloudy and wet 'uesday south and generally around averaga cloudy and wet picture starts a cloudy and wet picture again as rain continue to push northwards into parts of scotland . again, already falling scotland. again, already falling on that very saturated ground. so some localised flooding here that sets us up for further rain through the rest of tuesday and into wednesday. but perhaps hints a little more hints of something a little more settled way through the settled on the way through the latter half of next week. >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> thank you as ever, ellie. we've got lots more coming up on today's show after her banishment to the backbenches , banishment to the backbenches, suella braverman claims that what she calls the hate on britain's streets since the beginning of the israel—hamas war actually proves that multiculturalism has failed in the united kingdom. what do you think? let me know by email. all of that and more to come. i'm darren grimes and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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hello and welcome to gb news sunday. thank you very much for joining us this lunchtime. i'm darren grimes. and for the next houn darren grimes. and for the next hour, i'll be keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in this houn digital radio. coming up in this hour. has multiculturalism failed ? and the former home failed? and the former home secretary, suella braverman, has taken a swing at the policy in
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the telegraph today, saying that the telegraph today, saying that the hate on britain's streets proves that multiculturalism has failed. highlighting her concern about radicalisation in our schools and the normalisation of anti—semitism, i'm asking , is anti—semitism, i'm asking, is she right? then almost twice as many as uk voters now actually believe that a close relationship with the eu is more important for peace prospect and security than ties with the united states ? do they have united states? do they have a point? i can see. ben habib wanting to get in there or should these remainers just pipe down and bristol university have banned the singing of the national anthem at their graduation survey ? so i'll be graduation survey? so i'll be asking, should universities actually be allowed to shun the anthem? and of course, folks , anthem? and of course, folks, our very own nigel farage, he could well become king of the jungle. >> i've been stuck in here a long time. i've got this far. help me become king of the
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jungle now. the easiest way to do it is to get the imacelebrity app do it is to get the imacelebrity app that gives you five free votes or you can phone or text . votes or you can phone or text. vote for me . now if you want to vote for me. now if you want to vote for him, grab your phone, scan the qr code on screen and download the app. >> you can vote for him five times for free. so let's do it. let's make him king of the jungle. i'm saying it's the biggest upset since brexit. and do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com. i've got your emails open here or send us a message on our socials we're at at gb news. first of all though, here's the news with tatiana . news with tatiana. >> darren, thank you. your top stories from the newsroom. gb news understands tomorrow, tory mps will give their verdict on whether the rwanda bill is
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workable. conservative mp sir bill cash will present the findings is ahead of the crunch. second, reading vote on tuesday. the prime minister has come under pressure after it was discovered he paid £240 million towards the rwanda plan without a single asylum seeker yet to be relocated there. tory sources say the mps will decide whether to support the legislation tomorrow or if necessary, hold a second meeting ahead of the vote that evening . the labour leader that evening. the labour leader will warn the tories can no longer govern the country because warring camps are , as he because warring camps are, as he describes, fighting like rats in a sack. in a speech on the same day as the scheduled vote on the government rwanda policy, he'll claim it's labour that shares britain's values. claim it's labour that shares britain's values . shadow work britain's values. shadow work and secretary liz and pensions secretary liz kendall told broadcasters labour would scrap the rwanda plan in favour of a new scheme, including an elite cross border force, to stop illegal migration. despite the pressures over the £290 million policy that's been marred by legal challenges, the prime minister
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called on labour to back his emergency legislation . israeli emergency legislation. israeli tanks are battling to reach gaza's main southern city after ordering civilians to evacuate khan younis was hit by heavy bombardment last night as the israel defence forces advanced. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says international calls to end the war are inconsistent. briefing his cabinet, netanyahu told the leaders of france, germany and other countries, you cannot , on other countries, you cannot, on the one hand, support the elimination of hamas and on the other pressure us to end the war, which would stop the elimination of the terror group . elimination of the terror group. a a mother has been charged with manslaughter after her two sets of twins died in a house fire in south london in 2021. the children, aged three and four, were home when the ground floor of the house became engulfed in flames. they were treated at the scene, but died in hospital . scene, but died in hospital. police say 29 year old devika rose is also charged with child abandonment, but she's expected
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to appear in court tomorrow . the to appear in court tomorrow. the mayor of london says the met police is chronically underfunded . and in a letter to underfunded. and in a letter to the home secretary sadiq khan says london faces unique pressures as a capital city. he's urging the home office to boost the force's finances, as he says the underfunding is highlighted by the challenge of policing the protests over the conflict in gaza and israel. mr khan warns the funding gap could now be as . khan warns the funding gap could now be as. high as £240 million. the scottish government is under pressure to expedite a bill forcing sex offenders to notify police if their changing their genden police if their changing their gender. police scotland currently don't keep records on sex offenders who've undergone gender reassignment, and there's no requirement to report this. it comes as the gender recognition reform bill went through holyrood before it was blocked by the uk government. the court ruled the unprecedented use of section 35 was lawful, rejecting a challenge from the scottish government . six people have died
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government. six people have died after tornadoes hit tennessee in the us . severe storms left tens the us. severe storms left tens of thousands of homes without power . one tornado was caught on power. one tornado was caught on video by an eyewitness, causing electrical flashes and an explosion. three people, including two adults and a child, were killed in clarksville. another three were killed in nashville . officials killed in nashville. officials say the death toll could still rise . and buckingham palace have rise. and buckingham palace have revealed this year's christmas cards are a combination of regal and relaxed. the prince and princess of wales went for a monochrome photo showing the family all wearing plain shirts and denim . king charles and and denim. king charles and queen camilla have chosen a portrait from the coronation aiden standing side by side with the king wearing the imperial state crown and the queen camilla wearing queen mary's crown . and fresh weather crown. and fresh weather warnings have been issued as storm fergus sweeps across the country. yellow warnings for rain have been issued for the
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north—east of england, south eastern scotland and north western scotland . the warnings western scotland. the warnings are in place until this evening for scotland and into tomorrow morning for the north—east. a yellow rain warning covering carlisle to sheffield is in place from 5:00 today until 3:00 tomorrow morning . this is gb tomorrow morning. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . darren >> thanks a lot there, tatiana. let's get stuck into today's topics, folks having been banished to the back benches by rishi sunak suella braverman has doubled down on her claims that multiculturalism has completely failed in the united kingdom, citing what she calls the normalisation of anti—semitism on britain's streets since the beginning of the israel—hamas war. she's also poured cold water on rishi sunaks new deal
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with rwanda, saying that they remain gaping holes in it that leave it open to legal challenges . let's see what my challenges. let's see what my panel make of this. deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib, and political commentator matthew stadlen . ben, i want to matthew stadlen. ben, i want to read out this email from andy because andy has written in that andy says multi culturalism has failed. he says, we've allowed certain groups to live in no go ghetto zones , ghettos, ghetto zones, ghettos, ghettoisation of britain. we bow down every time someone screams racism . we're becoming a country racism. we're becoming a country where british values are disappearing. day by day, and it's too late to change it back, i'm afraid. i mean, are you as pessimistic as andy is on the state of britain? >> i think we're on a precipice. i don't think it's too late. i think if we act fast and we act decisively , we can we can save decisively, we can we can save the nation state. that was the united kingdom. but what we're seeing with multiculturalism is one silo in a much bigger attack
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one silo in a much bigger attack on the nation state. that is the united kingdom. and the attack is coming on our language. what is coming on our language. what is the nation state? it's a common language . it's a common common language. it's a common culture. it's a common social construct. it's a country with territorial borders which are enforced . that's what a nation enforced. that's what a nation state is. and one of the ways it's being i mean, all those issues, by the way, all the all those definitions of a nation state that i gave you, all of them are being challenged and them are being challenged and the one of the ways it's being challenged is through unbridled mass immigration. i've got nothing against immigration, but it's got to be at a pace at which the country can adopt cultures coming in and assimilate those cultures. but we've practised it at such a rate. we've had more immigrants come to the united kingdom in the last 25 years than in all of history before that. and we're therefore unable to assimilate it. and in order to try and come to peaceful terms , if you like,
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to peaceful terms, if you like, for want of a better expression, with the different cultures we've taken in, we're effectively being required as the dominant culture in the country to take the knee to these ethnic minority cultures, ethnic religions and so on and so forth. and in that process, multicultural ism is actually an all out attack, has become an all out attack, has become an all out attack on the united kingdom . and we've got to stop kingdom. and we've got to stop it. i think it can be stopped. we've got to bring legal and illegal immigration crashing down to near zero numbers for a number of years. and we've got to work very hard at teaching people our language , teaching people our language, teaching them our history, teaching them traditional british values, teaching them about traditional british institutions . as british institutions. as champion, championing our history, championing our national heroes, and inculcating our culture so that we can go forward as a harmonious, homogeneous united kingdom. okay, i mean, matthew, is there
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any part of what ben has just set out there that you agree with and recognise is just on the immigration, bringing that crashing down to nought? >> i mean, we gave out 150,000, nearly visas to people working in health and social care in the last year. without those people, our system would have been sunk. our relatives , our dying our relatives, our dying parents, our friends, our grandparents would have suffered enormous indignity had those kind people not come and done the work that we don't seem to be prepared to do in large enough numbers. so bringing immigration down by some arbitrary figure in order to achieve aims that ben wants achieve the aims that ben wants simply won't work. on the question of integration absolutely in favour of integration , celebrate integration, celebrate differences. but also make sure as best we can that we promote a sense of community cohesion , a sense of community cohesion, a sense of community cohesion, a sense of community cohesion, a sense of national cohesion as well. what i'm worried about with suella braverman both when she was home secretary and now is i think she's trying to be divisive. i don't think she's
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trying to do the hard, heavy lifting of trying to make sure that we come together. >> but with respect, people have been this years and been saying this for years and years years, that all we years and years, that all we need is. i remember david cameron stood at a podium cameron being stood at a podium saying you can wear a hijab with poppies on it. and i just can. >> but well, of course you can. >> but well, of course you can. >> but well, of course you can. >> but the i've got friends who wear hijabs and paying all of this. >> how is saying all of this actually going to in practice bnng actually going to in practice bring about that cohesion that you speak of. >> it's been undoubtedly some hate just to use the apparently the proof that suella braverman uses to say that multiculturalism has failed these these pro—palestine marches. undoubtedly there has been some hate on those those marches as only yesterday i was calling on the metropolitan police to make sure that it finds it hunts down within the law. obviously any perpetrators of anti—semitism arrests them and charges them. and i hope they spend time behind bars. i say that not just as someone of jewish ancestry, but also just
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as a human being. it's absolutely critical. i've got no time for any such nonsense. right. but what are we actually going to do? 82% of our country, england and wales, at least, is white. that means 18% are not. what are the plans to bring people together where there is felt that there is division? and i would say this and it's i think, extremely important. i don't think there's as much division as some would make out. ben and i are living, breathing examples people whose part of examples of people whose part of our families come from different parts of the world. ben's from pakistan and one side of your family, from austria the family, mine from austria on the jewish my family, we are jewish side of my family, we are both brits and within 1 or both proud brits and within 1 or 2 generations we absolutely believe in our country. 2 generations we absolutely believe in our country . suella believe in our country. suella braverman just take another example. the prime minister to take another example. they are examples of multiculturalism working where our own prime minister is british, asian, where our own former home secretary, two former home secretaries were british, asian suella wants to use the marches . suella wants to use the marches.
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let us use her as an example. i don't think you and i and suella and rishi are examples of multiculturalism. >> i'm actually i think what you and i and suella and rishi are examples of immigrants who've actually come across and adopted values as common values that are practised in the united kingdom and are proud of being british. and that's the way i would like immigration to be practised. so we do it at a rate in a pace where we can assimilate. and the one i'd just like to pick one issue i'd just like to pick up on, matt, if i may, is you said that our national health service would apart we service would fall apart if we didn't have immigrants coming in. the biggest problems in. one of the biggest problems we've is dealing with we've got is dealing with problems in itself problems in a problem in itself that we've got is dealing with issues in silos. and we look at immigration, we deal with it in a but actually the reason a silo, but actually the reason we've got rampant immigration, one of the reasons we've got rampant because rampant immigration is because we've domestic we've got a broken domestic labour force. and one of the reasons and we've got 6 million people, for example, on universal 3 million universal credit, 3 million before lockdowns, 1,000,000 in 2018, a dramatic increase in the
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number of people needing state subsidies to survive. and one of the reasons that's the case is because so many people have been dragged into the tax net that it doesn't simply pay to work at the lower end of wages in the united kingdom. and so what we're doing and having set the minimum wage for qualifying for a work visa to come to the uk at £26,000 a year, which is 25% below the median wage , what below the median wage, what we've done is induce as immigrants educate and immigrants educate and immigrants who can work in the national health service and so to on come in here and fill the gap that we should be filling with our domestic population and the other the other flip side of 13 years to the tories, the tories are squarely the tories are squarely part of the problem. but i just want to say one more thing, matt, and then i'll hand over, you know, this, this attraction labour from this attraction of labour from abroad is very damaging to the countries from which attract countries from which we attract it. know , we're talking it. you know, if we're talking about humanitarian and global
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good, it's awful taking doctors and nurses out of pakistan and india. you're damaging those countries and people don't see that. sorry >> over to you. >>— >> over to you. >> if you and i take you at face value and the value of your words, if that is a genuine concern of yours, then of course that's a reasonable and important concern. labour are going to abolish. would abolish this 20% discount on foreign workers because they think it undercuts , i think the domestic undercuts, i think the domestic i think the tories are going to do it now. yeah, i think labour actually led on this, this idea that labour is does not want to represent the working man and woman is, is a myth and a nonsense. i just come back to ben on his important point about why we are not why he thinks we are not examples multiculturalism examples of multiculturalism working. are . i think working. i think we are. i think suella braverman although fundamentally disagree with her views because views and rishi sunak because their parents, grandparents, your parents, my grandparents, whatever different whatever did come from different cultures. we are all proudly cultures. but we are all proudly british. in other words, lots and and lots of people. and lots and lots of people. i would suggest overwhelming
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would suggest the overwhelming majority people who come from majority of people who come from different ethnic racial different ethnic or racial backgrounds britain . backgrounds do buy into britain. >> but you and i are culturally very similar to and even though i'm half muslim and you're half jewish, we're very similar. and it's possible. >> right. >> right. >> but that's not multiculturalism. multiculturalism is the celebration of cultures, not not assimilating, not being part of the homogeneous. >> the suggestion she's making, she's using the word multiculture pluralism to attack immigration and to suggest that immigration and to suggest that immigration can't work in a cultural we are not the way cultural way. we are not the way we're working, but way we're we're working, but the way we're doing we're working, but the way we're dolill doesn't work. >> it doesn't work. >> it doesn't work. >> we are part of this. >> we are part of this. >> on that point then, because matthew, written matthew, ben anthony has written in rather and anthony says when exactly the british exactly were the british people asked they this asked if they wanted this multiculturalism on steroids? >> well, every time there's a general election, people people know issues are. know what the issues are. >> can't say the parties practising. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> both except reform uk. >> both except reform uk. >> and there's a point that's an important point that that's important point that ben that's a that behind that is an a point that behind that is an important makes important point that ben makes reform uk are steadfastly
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against immigration. >> you've heard. no, no, no not against immigration. >> you want to get it down to nought net zero. >> immigration is our policy, which means that would bring which means that we would bring down net immigration by 6 or down the net immigration by 6 or 700,000 with devastating consequences that will be. >> me just finish. that will >> let me just finish. that will be in your manifesto, that be in your manifesto, but that will manifesto. so, will be in your manifesto. so, yes, have largely a two yes, we do have largely a two party system, but you are disruptors. and if the british population agree you on population agree with you on those immigration those figures of immigration bringing them crashing down, they for you and you they will vote for you and you will mps at next election. >> let's see where hey, yeah , >> let's see where hey, yeah, because i mean, john has written in says no way has or in and joan says no way has or does multiculturalism work ? does multiculturalism work? >> and actually all of this about needing to fund the to actually staff the health care system and social care is a joke because the more people you have come into our sticking plaster, the more people you need to service. it's a ponzi scheme. >> immigration a ponzi scheme >> immigration is a ponzi scheme . and and these people . and people and these people get they need support. get old and they need support. they get ill, they need housing, they need all this lot of they need all this a lot of a lot of them home like the
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lot of them go home like the students, them out of the figures. >> well, they also bring their families. but anyway, we'll leave there. matthew stadlen leave it there. matthew stadlen and course, ben thank and of course, ben habib, thank you to the two of you very much to the two of them. now, folks, for all the best and opinion on best analysis and opinion on that story and more, you that story and many more, you can to our website at gb can go to our website at gb news.com . now, as i say, the news.com. now, as i say, the emails have been coming in thick and fast on migration. terry has said , can we talk about the root said, can we talk about the root cause of the problem, which is chronic poverty in the countries these people are coming from ? these people are coming from? and instead of wasting money on the and rwanda, should the french and rwanda, we should invest that money in poor countries to create jobs and raise their standard of living. hm yeah , well, that's an hm yeah, well, that's an interesting well, i mean, we do have a fund which does that and sadly, 40% of that fund now is being used to house and care for illegal migrants who've come to the uk . the uk. >> 40% of our international development fund insane, says. >> i think it's appalling to watch so many charities advertising on television for donations for the homeless at this time of year when our
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government is using hard working taxpayers money, providing food, warmth accommodation , often warmth and accommodation, often in hotels for illegal immigrants. i mean, keith, they would say they're bringing that to but we shall see. and to an end. but we shall see. and on covid inquiry , and he on the covid inquiry, and he says covid inquiry is a says the covid inquiry is a total of taxpayers money. total waste of taxpayers money. it achieve nothing . we it will achieve nothing. we should have pursued herd immunity during covid. so that's andy arguing more for sweden there, isn't it? now keep your views coming in. i do love to see them us of emailing in like you wouldn't believe right now. you subscribe our you can also subscribe to our youtube us on youtube channel and follow us on social media. we're at at gb news. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes. thank you for doing so. we've got loads more coming the show . could coming up on the show. could nigel farage be made king of the jungle while the gb news presenter has made it into the fine? all three of this year's i'm a celebrity , get me out of i'm a celebrity, get me out of here and he sent the left wing media establishment into overdrive . that was after the overdrive. that was after the elimination of josie gibson last
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news very own nigel farage has overcome the odds yet again to make it through to the final three of this year's i'm a celebrity get me out of here highway nigel after the elimination of this morning, presenter josie elimination of this morning, presenterjosie gibson elimination of this morning, presenter josie gibson yesterday only former professional boxer tony bellew and the reality tv star sam thompson stand between nigel and becoming king of the jungle. well, joining me to discuss this further is the brilliant showbiz reporter, stephanie takyi . stephanie, stephanie takyi. stephanie, thank you very much for kyrees. i want to start with talking about that challenge last night. >> gosh, itv are getting their money's worth out of nigel. the cyclone challenge is a favourite for viewers and not so favourite for viewers and not so favourite for the campmates because you have jet streams of water, you've got gale force winds coming at you and you have to get the stars. and nigel done a brilliant yesterday . brilliant job yesterday. >> hey, look at that. we've got that now. so that on screen right now. so he's what is this, stephanie? >> so he has to carry the force.
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he had to carry the force stars against this wind and water against all this wind and water in order for the campmates to get food. he the first get food. and he was the first one complete the challenge. one to complete the challenge. and takes a of guts. and it takes a lot of guts. >> they've put him in like >> and they've put him in like kylie pants, haven't they? >> tony bellew almost didn't want do because he was want to do it because he was like didn't want to wear the like he didn't want to wear the little shorts. but little windy shorts. but i'm sorry you're getting paid on. sorry if you're getting paid on. i'm a celebrity sometimes they want make you look want to make you look like a fool and put you in incy wincy pants. tony bellew was fool and put you in incy wincy pants.there tony bellew was fool and put you in incy wincy pants.there getting ny bellew was fool and put you in incy wincy pants.there getting this ellew was fool and put you in incy wincy pants.there getting this gush was fool and put you in incy wincy pants.there getting this gush ofis stood there getting this gush of water and the balls being thrown at he was knocked off his at him, he was knocked off his feet. well that's the sheer force it's not a joke force of it. it's not a joke when people like watching the cyclone, you're actually cyclone, but if you're actually doing look forward to doing it, i look forward to heanng doing it, i look forward to hearing talking it. hearing nigel talking about it. but power coming but it's sheer power coming against so for him to get against you. so for him to get those and win the those four stars and win the challenge, did, i think challenge, nike did, i think it's amazing. listen tell me, give me some insider gossip here because i'm actually of the view that they didn't expect nigel to get this far. >> do you agree with that? >> do you agree with that? >> i totally agree. you know, when they get someone, even though getting their
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though they're getting their money's did money's worth, if he did reportedly get 1.5 million, but i with nigel, they thought i think with nigel, they thought he a divisive he was going to be a divisive character . they thought, you character. they thought, you know, the viewers home would character. they thought, you know hated iewers home would character. they thought, you know hated him. s home would character. they thought, you know hated him. that'syme would character. they thought, you know hated him. that's the would character. they thought, you know hated him. that's the big|ld have hated him. that's the big thing. would have thing. i think itv would have thought. would have thought. they would have thought, oh, he would be out within first but what within the first week. but what he's he's actually turned he's done, he's actually turned it darren, if he it around. darren, even if he doesn't win tonight, i think he's a lot people he's won over a lot of people who initially hated him or thought stereotypes. nigel thought the stereotypes. nigel farage or he's against farage is racist or he's against immigration, all these different things. nigel's managed to turn it i that's it around and i think that's what people expecting . what people weren't expecting. >> not expecting him >> but you're not expecting him to be able to do it go all the way. get to the final two. >> it'll be between him and sam thompson. but to be honest, i might be surprised and i might eat my words because the gb news viewers been great at in viewers have been great at in voting for nigel. you've got the reform party who've been email telling their to also telling their members to also vote for nigel. so combine those two together, it might be goodbye sam and is it is it just the success of made in chelsea? >> that's made sam so popular?
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he's done a lot of reality tv, hasn't he? >> i think done a lot of >> i think he's done a lot of reality . and also think reality tv. and also i think he's that gen z support, you he's got that gen z support, you know , those are most of the know, those are most of the people are watching. i'm people who are watching. i'm a celebrity. he's also other celebrity. he's also got other made cast mates who made in chelsea cast mates who are supporting him so that could get him over the line. but as i said, nigel's got that mighty backing as well from gb news viewers, so hopefully might be proven wrong tonight. >> we've had a few emails saying to itv.com . com slash win to go to itv.com. com slash win as well . if you can't scan the as well. if you can't scan the qr code which we've got on our screens right now. but i'm wondering as well, do you know what struck me the way in which when they come out, when the celebrities come out of the jungle. yeah, have their jungle. yeah, they have their media . yes, they do. now media rounds. yes, they do. now they're asked. yeah. every single time i've i've seen them asked. yeah. what did you think about being in there with nigel farage expecting i guess them to say what a horrible right wing bigot or something like that. and all said what and they've all said what a sound bloke this is it the
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luvvies as i like to call them. >> darren they don't agree with nigel's views, but you cannot knock. nigel farage de—man even. there's been some scenes the other day when his daughter came to see him in the jungle. that's when it's more than when you realise it's more than politics. is a human being politics. this is a human being and happened last and that's what happened last year matt hancock. i year with matt hancock. i thought was going to be the thought he was going to be the most hated character. he comes thought he was going to be the mos'he'sad character. he comes thought he was going to be the mos'he'sad chover er. he comes thought he was going to be the mos'he'sad chover er. icampmates out, he's won over the campmates . it the birth of matt . it was the birth of matt hancock, the reality tv star. so this might not be the only tv show. we see nigel farage in the you in the meanwhile. yeah you know, in the meanwhile. yeah >> so expecting what >> so you're expecting what nigel farage is going to do, masterchef, because he can cut a fish. we learnt he i think he can. >> and you know the main thing, the reason he wanted to do the reason why he wanted to do i'm celebrity is so he can i'm a celebrity is so he can reach new audience. and in reach a new audience. and in that sense, he's already a winner because people know winner because now people know about farage. now when about nigel farage. so now when people arguments people want to say arguments about him, they can actually be like, watched on like, actually, i watched him on i'm a celeb. and he explained his thought process on that. and what really struck by what i've been really struck by is sheer force that
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is the sheer force of that behind and. >> nigel yeah, it's a lot >> nigel yeah, it's just a lot of him that of people look to him for that sort of clarity of leadership, but they also looked for he was like a father figure in that but they also looked for he was like a yeah, figure in that but they also looked for he was like a yeah, you1re in that but they also looked for he was like a yeah, you know,hat but they also looked for he was like a yeah, you know, the older camp. yeah, you know, the older man who saying , camp. yeah, you know, the older man who saying, you camp. yeah, you know, the older man who saying , you know, man who was saying, you know, get of bed, know, we get out of bed, you know, we didn't the biggest empire didn't have the biggest empire in world staying in bed in the world by staying in bed all all of these things all day. all of these things like was, my view, the dad like he was, in my view, the dad of the camp. >> he was. and he was like, you know, he was know, one of the older he was the one there. and i the oldest one there. and i think, you know, bucked heads think, you know, he bucked heads with like nella quite with people like nella quite a bit. when were arguing bit. and when they were arguing and he did take that father role where he said, let's talk about and he did take that father role whlet'se said, let's talk about and he did take that father role whlet's see id, let's talk about and he did take that father role whlet's see what's; talk about and he did take that father role whlet's see what's; talk wrong it, let's see what's gone wrong here. and he's had that life experience. so when he was communicating with someone like nella, he's like, nella, who's only 26, he's like, i'm older man. there's i'm an older man. there's certain can't too, certain things i can't do too, because there's been a generational shift so even generational shift here. so even that think through his that i think through his appearance, connected with appearance, he's connected with gen well. gen z as well. >> and just briefly, some emails have been asking , there are two have been asking, there are two votes tonight. can you explain that? >> there's two votes. so >> so there's two votes. so there will be one person who will be eliminated first out of the that will be the
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the three. so that will be the first vote and then the second vote will for the a vote will for be the i'm a celebrity winner . celebrity winner. >> and people have to vote >> and do people have to vote again? then they do. >> and there's a really short time so i think the time span. so i think the programme will be about an hour and you'll and a half long. so you'll probably first vote after probably get a first vote after the half an hour and then near the half an hour and then near the end you'll get another vote. so twice for so they have to vote twice for nigel they want him win. nigel if they want him to win. >> there you are. that's >> well there you are. that's your warning. we've all been warned. steph, you very warned. steph, thank you very much time. as ever. much for your time. as ever. now, if you want to vote now, folks, if you want to vote for him, grab your phone, scan the qr code the screen and the qr code on the screen and download app. can vote download the app. you can vote for five times for free. for him five times for free. let's make nige king the let's make nige king of the jungle. are jungle. now, folks, here's are watching to gb watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. darren grimes. got loads more grimes. we've got loads more coming study has coming up. a new study has suggested that majority of suggested that the majority of uk support britain uk voters now support britain forging closer ties with the eu in what's been described as a significant shift in attitude since brexit. i don't know about you, but my attitude ain't changed. first of all, though,
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we're going to get the news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> darren, thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. gb news understands tomorrow tory mps will be give their verdict on whether the rwanda bill is workable . all bill is workable. all conservative mps, sir bill cash will present the findings ahead of the crunch. second, reading vote on tuesday. the prime minister has come under pressure after it was discovered he paid £240 million towards the rwanda plan without a single flight taking off. tory sources say the mps will decide whether to support the legislature version tomorrow or if necessary , hold tomorrow or if necessary, hold a second meeting ahead of the vote. that evening . the labour vote. that evening. the labour leader will warn the tories can no longer govern the country because warring camps are as he describes, fighting like rats in a sack. in a speech on the same day as the scheduled vote on the government's rwanda policy , government's rwanda policy, he'll claim it's labour that shares britain's values, despite
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the pressures over the £240 million policy that's been marred by legal challenges, the prime minister called on labour to back his emergency legislation . baroness michelle legislation. baroness michelle mone says she made an error in publicly denying her links to the ppe firm medpro . it was the ppe firm medpro. it was awarded government contracts worth more than £200 million to supply personal protective equipment after she recommended it to ministers. the national crime agency is investigating the firm and its connection to the firm and its connection to the conservative peer . lady mone the conservative peer. lady mone argues she's being used as a scapegoat by the government for its own covid failings . and its own covid failings. and buckingham palace have revealed this year's christmas cards are a combination of regal and relaxed. the prince and princess of wales went for a monochrome photo showing the family all wearing plain shirts and denim. king charles and queen camilla have a portrait from the have chosen a portrait from the coronation side side coronation standing side by side with king wearing the with the king wearing the imperial state crown and queen
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camilla wearing queen mary's crown . for more on all of those crown. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website, gbnews.com. now back to . darren thank you very much, tatiana. >> lots more coming up on today's show . is the national today's show. is the national anthem outdated and offensive? this follows the decision of bristol university to axe god save the king after some students complained that it being used at graduation ceremonies talk about snowflakes. first of all, though, let's get a quick look at the weather with ellie. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm ellie glaisyer a low pressure still very much in charge of our weather over the next couple of days, bringing us some unsettled conditions and some wet and days, bringing us some unsettled condit weather some wet and days, bringing us some unsettled condit weather on he wet and days, bringing us some unsettled condit weather on the vet and days, bringing us some unsettled condit weather on the way. nd days, bringing us some unsettled condit weather on the way. storm windy weather on the way. storm fergus named by met eireann slowly continues to move its way
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towards uk through the rest towards the uk through the rest of sunday monday . towards the uk through the rest of sunday monday. this of sunday and into monday. this will rain spreading its will bring rain spreading its way scotland. way across parts of scotland. and already falling on and this rain already falling on some saturated ground with some very saturated ground with further pushing across further rain pushing across northern parts of england through hours of through the early hours of monday morning. some very strong winds, particularly across monday morning. some very strong winds, parts rticularly across monday morning. some very strong winds, parts of:ularly across monday morning. some very strong winds, parts of:ularly and ss western parts of wales and through bristol channel, through the bristol channel, where could see those gusts where we could see those gusts up to 60 miles an hour. temperatures across the south around but around 7 or 8 degrees, but across parts scotland, we across parts of scotland, we could to minus one or could see down to minus one or minus icy minus two with some icy stretches, particularly for southwest southwest scotland through hours of through the early hours of monday morning elsewhere, monday morning. elsewhere, though, starts though, monday, generally starts a drier and brighter day for most plenty of sunshine most of us. plenty of sunshine as we head through the afternoon, perhaps few showers afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirting northern skirting in across northern parts and eastern parts of england and eastern scotland those scotland as well. seeing those showers from showers continue to push in from the coast. but with those lighter and with some lighter winds and with some sunshine feeling sunshine perhaps feeling a little pleasant than recent little more pleasant than recent days, around 12 degrees in the south around south and generally around average, north. tuesday average, further north. tuesday starts a cloudy and wet picture again as rain continues to push northwards into parts of scotland. again, already falling
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on that very saturated ground. so some localised flooding here that sets us up for further rain through the rest of tuesday and into perhaps into wednesday. but perhaps hints something a little more hints of something a little more settled on way through the settled on the way through the latter of next week . latter half of next week. >> join us every night on gb news at 11 pm. for headliners, which is three top comedians going through the next day's news stories, which is exactly what you need, because when they established it has gone crazy, you crazy ness make you need some crazy ness to make sense of it. >> headliners as you don't have to bother reading the newspaper. we've got it covered for you every p.m. we've got it covered for you every pm. and every night at 11 pm. and repeated morning a.m. repeated every morning at 5 am. we to sleep like we won't send you to sleep like some of the other paper review shows so join us. 11 shows out there. so join us. 11 pm. every night on gb news. the people's channel, britain's news channel. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes on your tv, online and on digital radio. now, before we move on, a reminder that our very own nigel
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farage could tonight become king of the jungle. >> i've been stuck in here a long time. i've got this far. help me become king of the jungle. now, the easiest way to do it is to get the imacelebrity app do it is to get the imacelebrity app that gives you five free votes . or you can phone app that gives you five free votes. or you can phone or app that gives you five free votes . or you can phone or text. votes. or you can phone or text. vote for me . now if you want to vote for me. now if you want to vote for him, grab your phone, scan the qr code on screen and download the app. >> you can vote for him. five times for free. let's do it. let's make him king of the jungle. now, folks, speaking of nigel farage, this neatly leads us on to brexit. according to a new study by the independent think tank british future, the majority of uk voters now want a closer relationship with the eu than the united states . in than the united states. in what's been described as a significant shift in public attitudes since brexit. the report claims that 52% of the pubuc report claims that 52% of the public would now like the uk to
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have a closer relationship with the eu on issues such as peace , the eu on issues such as peace, prosperity and security , and prosperity and security, and that on the whole, the entire brexit debate is now less toxic and more centred on pragmatism. well, my panel are still with me. the deputy leader of reform uk, former brexit party mep ben habib, and political commentator matthew stadler . lynn. now matthew stadler. lynn. now matthew stadler. lynn. now matthew , if i start with you, i matthew, if i start with you, i don't know to where turn on this one. >> yeah, all you know is we're going to disagree very strongly. i do, massively, but of course. >> but i, i just i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would look at the eu and think comes to peace , think when it comes to peace, when it to security , we when it comes to security, we what we really need is the eu which can't even meet its 2% on its nato commitments with the united states. of course we need the united states when it comes to these matters. we need both. >> what's controversial? well, because this poll says that actually the british people are apparently so now in hock with
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the eu. >> and ursula von der leyen is the best thing we've ever seen. >> a grown up politics means engaging with our allies. the eu is a massive bloc on our doorstep . they are our allies. doorstep. they are our allies. they've plenty of problems. they've got plenty of problems. as we know, america is our ally. that's got plenty of problems . that's got plenty of problems. as know. we've got as we also know. we've got to engage with both move away . engage with both and move away. i think i think what this polling does suggest is we want to move away from the divisiveness of the brexit debate. easily rehash debate. we could easily rehash our ben and i now our differences. ben and i now on whether it was a mistake or not to leave, i think comfortably. more think comfortably. more people think we have than we shouldn't have left than think have. they think think we should have. they think we have left the eu. but we should have left the eu. but let's leave that aside for a second. we are moving second. we are now moving forward. let's positive. forward. let's be positive. we're have a labour we're going to have a labour government and keir starmer is going to work, think going to work, i think effectively partners. >> does that mean eu associate membership ? no >> does that mean eu associate membership? no i'm not convinced. ben, be well , membership? no i'm not convinced. ben, be well, i'm not convinced. >> i don't know about eu associate membership, but we will be absolutely aligned by
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with the eu under keir starmer. so it's brexit in name only? yes. we've we haven't got brexit. let's just be clear about that. the, the idea behind brexit was for the united kingdom to take its rightful place amongst 168 other nations out of 195in the world that are not members of the eu and the eu . for those who have been asleep for the last ten years is not just an economic trading associate . an the eu is associate. an the eu is a political project with its central goal of ever closer union, which is effectively the stripping away of power from member states and the empowerment of brussels to the detriment of democracy across europe and we see that we talked about nation states in an earlier segment in this programme . the eu stands in programme. the eu stands in opposition to nation states. the eu wishes to do away with borders. we see that with the carl heneghan zone. you know, open borders across europe. and lo and behold, what a problem that's been for security. the eu for illegal migration right across europe, completely uncontrolled , told the eu, as
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uncontrolled, told the eu, as you rightly , you made a really you rightly, you made a really pertinent point, if i may say so, darren, when you said the eu actually doesn't help with security , the creates security, the eu creates problems for security. let's just go back to greece in 2012 because of the common currency , because of the common currency, they couldn't deflate their currency to get out of their economic problems. so they had to deflate their economy with mass unemployment. mass youth unemployment. creates civil unemployment. that creates civil strife. civil strife leads to polarised politics, polarised politics. it leads to war. that's how bad the eu is. >> what do you say we should have closer ties with the us over the eu? >> we should be a proud independent united kingdom making british making policies for the british national and if we can national interest and if we can cooperate with the us and europe, we should do so. but not to the detriment of british national interests. >> on the question of war and peace, france peace, don't forget that france and course and germany and of course britain and so many other european had the most european countries had the most devastating each other devastating war with each other in the 1930 and 1940s, not to mention the 19 tens. and there absolute cornerstone principle of the eu is by through greater
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economic integration to prevent that ever happening again. so far it's worked. might have worked anyway, but so far that is on the right track . on on the is on the right track. on on the issue of relitigating the brexit debate, which you have done a little bit there, you did it rather well. >> i thought, well, you've you've restated your side of the argument. >> i'm not going to bother >> i'm not even going to bother restating my side of the argument. and i can see, by the way, that there were some there were reasons to were some powerful reasons to leave. i say that leave. and i say that as a reminder, this is about is reminder, what this is about is grown politics. it is about grown up politics. it is about engaging with our eu partners. it's with american it's engaging with our american partners interests partners for the best interests both britain the wider both of britain and the wider world. if we don't engage, we world. if we don't engage, if we become isolated and i don't think you want us to become think you do want us to become isolated, the risk to our isolated, all the risk to our country elsewhere goes up on country and elsewhere goes up on the narrow issue by the way, of immigration. it's not a narrow issue, but there are many reasons why people voted to leave it is no coincidence, i would argue that the small boat crossings basically became a problem after we left, after we
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decided to brexit. >> but illegal migration became an issue for all of europe after we left. yes illegal migration has just gone through the roof . has just gone through the roof. and one of the theories being put about which cannot be discounted is that that kind of migration is being weaponized by the russians. >> and let's not forget that europe is moving to the right because the issue of mass because of the issue of mass migration. i am absolutely no blanket fan of the eu that would make me a fan of the regime or the government in hungary. >> it would it would have made me a fan of the governments in poland and so forth. i mean, look at france. france have a much bigger problem than we do with integration. they have a much bigger problem with the far right than do. so i'm not one right than we do. so i'm not one of those people who think that the eu is some sort of sacred body. far from it. ijust thought if we are going to relitigate that on the on the balance of things, we probably marginally better off in than out. but as i said, i could see all sorts of problems, not least the remoteness of democracy.
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>> do know the professor >> do you know the professor steve who's steve davies, who's at manchester university? he said that actually he thinks people like eventually be like matthew will eventually be the ones arguing most fervently for brexit. well, when the eu moves to the right, well, matt, matt has said very pro matt has said some very pro brexit things in the last hour. >> he's proud of being british. i would say, and i would i would just say, and i would say this is very important. >> i'm proud of being british and proud being and i was proud of being british. we part eu. british. we were part of the eu. >> that you believe in the >> that means you believe in the nafion >> that means you believe in the nation state? >> yeah, i do believe in a nafion >> yeah, i do believe in a nation state. but that doesn't mean that can't ally in mean that we can't ally in various with other states, various ways with other states, both and outside both inside the eu and outside the eu. >> all right. leave that the eu. >> ithere.1t. leave that the eu. >> llthe. but leave that the eu. >> llthe. but we leave that the eu. >> llthe. but we willve that the eu. >> llthe. but we willve tha back one there. but we will come back to the panel there. >> we're not rejoining, by the way. we are not rejoining. >> well, well, well, well. >> well, well, well, well. >> certainly deputy >> i certainly hope not. deputy leader habib leader of reform uk, ben habib and political commentator matthew we've matthew stadlen. right. we've got loads coming up on got loads more coming up on today's the national today's show is the national anthem offensive? anthem outdated and offensive? this of this follows the decision of bristol university to axe god save the king after some students complained at it. it's
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continued use in their graduation ceremonies. continued use in their graduation ceremonies . pathetic. graduation ceremonies. pathetic. anyway, all of that and more to come. i'm darren grimes. and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news
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company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel well , come people's. channel well, come back to gb news sunday with me . back to gb news sunday with me. >> darren grimes on your tv, onune >> darren grimes on your tv, online and on digital radio. now, bristol university has sparked controversy after
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banning the national anthem from its graduation ceremonies. banning the national anthem from its graduation ceremonies . now, its graduation ceremonies. now, traditionally, the university has ended its graduation ceremony with a student leading a rendition of god save the king. but it's been axed after some students complained the anthem is now outdated and offensive for the final time today. let's chat to my panel. deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib, and political commentator matthew stadlen. matthew does this go to the heart of the kinds of issues that ben was addressing earlier where we're talking about national unity and social cohesion ? if people if social cohesion? if people if young people don't want to sing the national anthem , is there the national anthem, is there a sign there of people rejecting the symbols and anthems of nafionhood the symbols and anthems of nationhood ? nafionhood? >> well, as a great warrior for free speech, you would, of course, darren, support people's right to not sing the national anthem. should a university withdraw the national anthem if that's really what's going on
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here? no, i think it's utterly absurd. i was going to say, actually just before the break, in the context of talking about nafion in the context of talking about nation when were part nation states, when we were part of the european union, i still stood up sung the national stood up and sung the national anthem great pride and anthem with great pride and vigour, hand my vigour, with my hand across my chest whenever were chest whenever england were playing i'd playing rugby or football, i'd stand even if i was stand up actually, even if i was in in my own living room. so being proud britain wasn't being proud of britain wasn't inconsistent actually, with being but the being part of the eu. but the national is a really good national anthem is a really good way of bringing people together. i've citizenship i've been to two citizenship ceremonies of mine, ceremonies of friends of mine, one one french who one german, one french who became british citizens, and the moment when people from all around the world, in this town hall, wherever it was in london, stood up and sung the british national anthem . absolutely national anthem. absolutely fantastic . fantastic. >> ben and alison roth only said anthony there. ben allison has written in and she says bristol university ought to be stripped of any tax payer funding if they feel so strongly about this issue. >> well, bristol is a problem. and the educational system, not just bristol, it's not just i was just going to say, the
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educational system is a problem. and we about the attack on and we talk about the attack on the state and bristol the nation state and bristol university withdrawing the national that's national anthem, if that's what's is clear what's happened here is a clear example of how the nation state and our arguably with the exception of the union jack our biggest symbol all of our of our statehood , the anthem of our statehood, the anthem of our country is issued by them. and it's not just that they do it right across the curriculum. you know, they talk about our history as an imperial power, entirely negative . lee they entirely negative. lee they don't talk about the fact that we established the common law across the globe that gave rise to massive free trade. they don't talk about the industrialisation that took place in the united kingdom because of diversity of thought and progressive thinking, which because of diversity of thought ancthen|ressive thinking, which because of diversity of thought ancthen exported1inking, which because of diversity of thought ancthen exported to king, which because of diversity of thought ancthen exported to the , which because of diversity of thought ancthen exported to the world. we then exported to the world. what to do is dumb what they want to do is dumb down history, dumbed down down our history, dumbed down our language and removing the national is the most national anthem is the most visual . you know , example that visual. you know, example that you can have of their attitude to the country . to the country. >> i would say to both sides of
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this this this sort of particular version of the culture wars, you can be proud of your country and not proud of parts of our history. i'm very proud to be british. but can i just say sorry? >> it's not just a culture war. i think to call it a culture war is to under estimate the overall assault that's taking place . assault that's taking place. there's an economic assault to i think it is a culture war. >> and it's a perfectly okay thing to be debating. reanalysing our history. all i am saying is i am someone who is not proud of the british empire. i don't think taking other countries territory at whim is an acceptable thing to do . but i an acceptable thing to do. but i am proud of being british so i say to people on the left , just say to people on the left, just because we had an empire doesn't mean you can't be proud to be british. and i'm saying to you, as as someone who is proud as well as someone who is proud to doesn't mean you to be british, doesn't mean you have to be proud of the empire. >> but but i am proud. >> but but i am proud. >> i know you are. >> i know you are. >> well, i think it's a fundamental assault on who we are. i've got a statement are. but i've got a statement now bristol university
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now from bristol university city, say the city, and they say the university updates university routinely updates aspects in aspects of its graduates in ceremonies, the ceremonies, which included the 2020 the national 2020 decision that the national anthem played anthem would be played when representative of the royal family, as the lord family, such as the lord lieutenant, are in attendance as well. mealy mouthed. >> we sang the national anthem every morning at school. well, you should do that. that that drives in the sense of national identity. >> we're going to have to leave it there. but folks, thank you very much for your time, as eve r. >> even >> we sang hymns. yeah. >> we sang hymns. yeah. >> oh, well, i thought you were about to belt out the national anthem there. that would have been a turn up for the books. no, that's it for me for today. but because everyone but stay tuned because everyone needs and got needs their nana. and we've got ours nana, what's coming 7 up. up? >> well, we've got a busy one because, course, we're going because, of course, we're going to be talking nigel in the to be talking about nigel in the jungle has to win. i jungle because he has to win. i mean, he has to win. but what would be great is what would it be like if nigel farage and bofis be like if nigel farage and boris were in of boris johnson were in charge of the party? the conservative party? could that the duo? we're that be the perfect duo? we're also to be looking at gp also going to be looking at gp appointments. is appointments. now. this is something brought to my something that was brought to my
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attention little facebook attention on my little facebook page. appreciation page. i've got an appreciation society it's about society very nice. it's about 6000 members. so impressed. 6000 members. i'm so impressed. but but they pointed out but but, but they pointed out the that a lot of people the fact that a lot of people struggle, especially older people, get appointments. people, to get gp appointments. so asking, is so we're going to be asking, is that particular thing the online booking fit for purpose? booking for gps fit for purpose? we've coming up. we've got loads coming up. >> yeah. because wes >> yeah, yeah. because wes streeting saying he's going to fix it nana but i'm sure fix it all nana but i'm sure you're going to actually take that task. nana can't wait. that to task. nana can't wait. thanks, ever. now, folks, thanks, as ever. now, folks, you've watching and you've been watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. darren grimes, thank you. ever doing so. don't go ever much for doing so. don't go anywhere because as i say, nana is up next and we all need our nana. but first of all, we're going to take a quick look at the weather with . ellie the weather with. ellie >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather. i'm
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ellie glaisyer. low pressure still very much in charge of our weather over the next couple of days, bringing us some unsettled conditions and some wet and windy the storm windy weather on the way. storm fergus named by met eireann slowly continues to move its way towards the uk through the rest of and into monday. this of sunday and into monday. this will bring rain spreading its way scotland and way across parts of scotland and this falling on this rain already falling on some very saturated ground with further pushing across further rain pushing across northernthe early hours of through the early hours of monday strong monday morning. some very strong winds , too, particularly across winds, too, particularly across western of wales and western parts of wales and through bristol channel, through the bristol channel, where could see gusts where we could see those gusts up 60 miles an hour. up to 60 miles an hour. temperatures across the south around or degrees, but around 7 or 8 degrees, but across parts scotland, we across parts of scotland, we could down to minus one or could see down to minus one or minus two some icy minus two with some icy stretches, particularly for southwest southwest scotland through the early hours of monday . elsewhere, monday morning. elsewhere, though, generally starts though, monday generally starts a drier and brighter day for most of us. plenty sunshine most of us. plenty of sunshine as we head through the afternoon, a few showers afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirting northern afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirtirof northern afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirtirof england northern afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirtirof england and hem afternoon, perhaps a few showers skirtirof england and eastern parts of england and eastern scotland as well, seeing those showers to push in from showers continue to push in from the but those the coast. but with those lighter and some
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lighter winds and with some sunshine perhaps feeling a little more pleasant than recent sunshine perhaps feeling a little around easant than recent sunshine perhaps feeling a little around 12sant than recent sunshine perhaps feeling a little around 12 degrees] recent sunshine perhaps feeling a little around 12 degrees] rethet days. around 12 degrees in the south around south and generally around average, north. tuesday average, further north. tuesday starts a cloudy and wet picture again as rain continues to push northwards into parts of scotland. again, already falling on that very saturated ground . on that very saturated ground. so some localised flooding here that sets us up for further rain through the rest of tuesday and into wednesday. but perhaps hints of something a little more settled the settled on the way through the latter half of next week . latter half of next week. >> that warm feeling inside , >> that warm feeling inside, aside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .
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