at ten to for harry? my verdict. at ten to hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment and plenty of surprises along the way, including a whole load of celebrities at 1030. find out why shortly. but first, the news headunes. why shortly. but first, the news headlines . and someone that's headlines. and someone that's always a star in my book, sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thank you, mark. good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . gb news the newsroom. gb news understands. tomorrow tory mps will give their verdict on whether the rwanda bill is workable . conservative mp sir workable. conservative mp sir bill cash will present the findings ahead of the crunch. second vote on tuesday. the prime minister has come under pressure after it was discovered he paid £240 million towards the rwanda plan without a single flight taking off tory sources say the mps will decide whether to support the legislation tomorrow or if necessary, hold a second meeting ahead of the vote

. some breaking news in the last hour. . some breaking news in the last hour . a . some breaking news in the last hour. a mother and son have died in a crash in derbyshire as police hunt a bmw driver who fled the scene in derbyshire. police say the 59 year old woman was pronounced dead at the site of the collision while her 22 year old son died later in hospital. while a black bmw collided with the victim's fiat 500 car on chesterfield road around 10:20 am. on saturday day. a 40 year old man has been arrested and remains in police custody, but the bmw driver fled the scene on met. police say two teenage girls have been arrested on suspicion of robbery after a woman was attacked in london. in a warning, this video shows distressing images. footage of the attack has been circulating on social media showing the 20 year old walking in stamford hill and then being robbed and beaten. the woman who is from the orthodox jewish community was reportedly left bruised but did not need to go to hospital, met. police say it's keeping an open mind about the motive for

the attack, but are treating it as a possible hate crime . a as a possible hate crime. a judge has ordered the to bbc release emails related to martin bashir's controversial 1995 interview with princess diana. a warning the following video has some flashing images. warning the following video has some flashing images . a mr. some flashing images. a mr. bashir officially stepped down from his job as the broadcast at the broadcaster in 2021 after it emerged that he had secured the interview through deception and faking documents . judge brian faking documents. judge brian kennedy said the corporation had been inconsistent and unreliable in the way it dealt with the initial request to release material under the freedom of information act and fresh weather warnings have been issued as storm fergus sweeps across the country . leitrim across the country. leitrim village in ireland has been hit by a possible tornado as homes and cars are seriously damaged. emergency services were called after high winds from the storm flattened trees and ripped up rooftops, buildings and left debris. yellow weather warnings and over 40 flood warnings have

been issued across england and scotland . gale force winds are scotland. gale force winds are likely to hit south wales area and the bristol channel. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on your digital radio your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . mark my thanks to back to. mark my thanks to sophia wenzler who returns in an hours sophia wenzler who returns in an hour's time. >> welcome to what's going to be a very busy mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion as politicians and lawyers squabble over the rwanda when protecting rwanda plan, when did protecting the borders of your country become so controversial? in the big story , the mail on sunday big story, the mail on sunday sensationally report that boris johnson could return as prime minister and give nigel farage a top job in his government? we'll get reaction from fearless tory, rebel and gb news star phillip davis. my mark meets guest is an amazing lady. sarah de lagarde , amazing lady. sarah de lagarde, amazing lady. sarah de lagarde, a woman who miraculously

survived being run over by two separate trains , her body separate trains, her body destroyed, but her spirit alive . destroyed, but her spirit alive. she tells her amazing story. before for ten and it might take a ten. looking forward to this. it's been a week to forget for prince harry losing a court case and seeing his favourite journalist called a liar. i'll be dealing with the prodigal prince in no uncertain terms. what next for harry? my verdict at ten plus as their support doubles in a year is richard tice reform uk party. the final nail in the tory coffin? plus the latest polls in america suggests that donald trump would beat joe biden in a presidential run off in a year's time. so would president donald trump in america in the white house. be good for britain? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits tonight who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script and

frankly, are quite badly behaved . and taylor of warwick , . and lord taylor of warwick, political commentator jo—anne nadler and broadcaster and journalist and author, michael crick . tonight journalist and author, michael crick. tonight i'll be asking the pundits , is labour's wes the pundits, is labour's wes streeting right that the nhs exploits every winter crisis just to get more money and should brits ditch the turkey and go vegan to save the planet this christmas? plus, the most important part of the show your emails, they come straight to my laptop. mark gbnews.com plus at 1030. we've got a whole heap of surprises for you. multiple celebrity guests. find out why at 1030. now this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it a very big two hours to come. before we start, do you mind cutting the music, amy? because a week ago i wasn't able to present show . a lovely to present the show. a lovely leo kerr looked after the programme me. he did a programme for me. he did a brilliant job, and reason brilliant job, and the reason why dad was very poorly in why is my dad was very poorly in hospital and he has passed away. so you don't so tonight's show, if you don't mind if you'll indulge me, is

dedicated to seamus dolan. my dad , there he in front of the dad, there he is in front of the pub ran for many pub that he ran for many decades. robert peel. was decades. sir robert peel. he was an amazing and he'll be an amazing guy. and he'll be much missed. okay, folks , time much missed. okay, folks, time to on with the show. we to get on with the show. we start with my big opinion . while start with my big opinion. while the good and the great of the establishment tie themselves in knots over whether the plan to process asylum cases in rwanda is legal, moral or workable, what they seem to have forgotten is that sorry , you can't just is that sorry, you can't just wander into another country. try wandering into north korea, russia , singapore, iran or china russia, singapore, iran or china . good luck with that. they wouldn't get caught up in the intricacies of the european convention on human rights or supreme court judgements. convention on human rights or supreme court judgements . these, supreme court judgements. these, of course, are dreadful regimes, but they do understand how to maintain their geographical boundaries. but the woke west seems to think that it's its duty to tolerate poorer borders, that it's somehow politically

incorrect to know who's coming into our country and to decide the numbers. that's not empathy. that's not political correctness. it's a failure of their duty. it is surrender. when did it become controversial to police your borders? we pay a huge portion of our income to the state whose prime task is to protect the national boundaries of the country. and they can't even do that, let alone give you a gp appointment. this side of christmas . if the state cannot christmas. if the state cannot defend its own geography, then what is it for? this doesn't just feel logistical with worried lawyers obsessing over convention. it feels ideological. last weekend , the ideological. last weekend, the telegraph reported that home office civil servants are trying to block the rwanda plan . the to block the rwanda plan. the truth is, we have individuals working in the heart of government who believe in a relaxed immigration policy. at best, an open borders at worst . best, an open borders at worst. that's fine. but please

understand that with more people entering the country illegally, that bill of £8 million a day to accommodate them in hotels will grow. communities will be further impacted by the influx s and the ongoing economic , and the ongoing economic, humanitarian and national security nightmare of these crossings organised by unscrupulous criminals will only get worse . mainstream get worse. mainstream politicians of all colours have massively failed on this issue with any political will to tackle this crisis thwarted by unelected unnamed bureaucrats in whitehall. the north london chattering class is within the media, government and the civil service can convince themselves that public anger about this will go away. but let me tell you, it will only deepen. and the public will ultimately choose a more extreme political answer to tackle the problem. an outcome we do not want right now . i've got growing respect for emmanuel macron, the french president. he was very honest

with his own people last month saying that france cannot accept the misery of the world. it's a very sad sentiment. awful that that's the world we live in. but it's true . and he's right in the it's true. and he's right in the end, failure to stop the boats and the failure to have a sensible, unemotional national conversation about legal net migration, which is almost 700,000 a year at the moment, risks a democratic and social crisis for this country. the riots we saw in ireland last month will be like the queen's garden party by comparison, even now, those riots were a disgrace , but they were also a warning of what happens if you ignore genuine public concerns about vast, unsustainable levels of migration into a country. if the state cannot stand up for the very definition of what a country is, its geography, its boundanes country is, its geography, its boundaries and its nationhood , boundaries and its nationhood, it will fall. the political media and bureaucratic elite don't realise it yet , but

don't realise it yet, but current rates of legal and illegal migration are an existential crisis for the country . ignore it at your peril country. ignore it at your peril your reaction ? mark at your reaction? mark at gbnews.com or get to your emails shortly. but let's hear from my top pundits. we have political commentator lord taylor of warwick. journalist jo—anne nadler and broadcaster and author michael crick. michael, great to have you back in the studio. what do you think about this story? the civil service allegedly thwarting the rwanda plan because they're ideologically against it? >> well, there's bound to be some civil servants who don't like the plan. >> and i'm sure there are thousands of civil servants who share your concerns about the levels of illegal migration action. >> and my concern as well, and indeed the levels of legal migration. but let's put this

differently . supposing you were differently. supposing you were an afghan and you were as opinionated an afghan as you are opinionated an afghan as you are opinionated british, you wouldn't last five minutes in afghanistan. you'd be taken out and shot for expressing your views or hung or whatever . life views or hung or whatever. life would be pretty horrid. supposing you decided to have an opinion. ectomy and keep your head down and sell fruit on a street corner . you'd be bored street corner. you'd be bored within minutes and you would do your best to come to a country like britain. if you lived in afghanistan or somali or large parts of africa , places where parts of africa, places where the economy is in a mess, or places where views like yours and mine are not tolerated, you would join the influx of people crossing the channel in boats. now, i'm not saying you shouldn't do anything about it. we should. but it's very, very difficult. i mean, i don't think the rwanda plan is going to get through. it's many through. it's got so many obstacles, even it did get obstacles, even if it did get through, not convinced that through, i'm not convinced that it will a deterrent. you

it will act as a deterrent. you know, it's very difficult , know, it's very difficult, really to know what the answer is well, indeed. is to all of this. well, indeed. >> resistance within the >> but resistance within the media among certain media to among certain politicians within politicians and perhaps within the service rwanda the civil service to rwanda isn't it? isn't just logistical, is it? there's actually a divide within the country about what kind of borders have. and borders we should have. and there are some on our shores who believe in quite porous borders. this philosophical. this is very philosophical. >> who >> well, there are some who believe and think believe that. and i think including large swathes of the labour party, arguably . well, labour party, arguably. well, i'm not a member of the labour party or a supporter of the labour i do labour party, but and i do believe a certain level of immigration much lower than what we've got now, is healthy for the economy. and in 40 years time, these people will be prospering and being a huge help to our economy in the same way that migrants who came in 40, 50 years ago are in many cases right now, including the prime minister and including my irish parents. >> indeed , dear father, who's >> indeed, dear father, who's just i'm very sorry to hear about your father s death, but, i mean, we are the coastline of britain, i think is the mainland

is about 10,000 miles. >> i mean, are you actually you mentioned north korea there. well, won't you won't be well, they won't you won't be able to get into north korea or korea because you'd be shot. are you advocating as you advocating something as stringent? can't get stringent? yes. you can't get out either? well, no, they're dreadful regimes. >> ones i mentioned. and we >> the ones i mentioned. and we value the rule of two properly. >> mean, you know, it is >> so, i mean, you know, it is very difficult to police the coastline . you need, you know, coastline. you need, you know, a machine gun point at every 100 yards. and that's just the mainland, quite apart from the islands. and northern ireland. so it's tricky. >> okay, joanne, we seem to lack a will to want to do this. we've been having this discussion very much these terms, actually much in these terms, actually for about 25 years now because i remember when labour were in power and jack straw and david blunkett were positioning themselves as being shall we say, the kind of the renegade voices on these kind of things. and, and warning labour that if labour didn't have a sensible discussion about this, that there would be, shall we say, more extreme voices both to the

left of the labour party , to the left of the labour party, to the right of the conservative party who would who would take up this issue , who i certainly agree issue, who i certainly agree with you that we've we've stifled debate on this issue , stifled debate on this issue, particularly during the noughties, when labour was in power and labour used used immigration as a way of fuelling growth. >> the only problem is if you if the growth of immigration gets too high, it actually lowers growth because gbp per head is sort of zero right now. so yes , sort of zero right now. so yes, i think we do need to discuss this and be open about it and we do need to do something about the figures are too high. the point i was making, the point i was making was this was very this was kind of disingenuous because it was very much under the tony blair government that we introduced this of open we introduced this idea of open borders and it became by borders and it became sort of by default, that has default, the ideology that has that has run civil service. that has run the civil service. >> exploded under the >> it's exploded under the tories, not labour, no, absolutely. i the tories absolutely. i mean, the tories have done absolutely nothing about it. but think know, about it. but i think you know, the, genesis of it came the, the genesis of it came with, with these sort of open

borders approach of the blair government. and the idea, particularly that, you know, i mean it had it not been for had it not been for i think to a certain extent, the good sense and this was one of the few things he showed such good sense on. but gordon brown and also my former subject that as a as a biographer , william hague, that biographer, william hague, that tony blair didn't go further into the european project and further into this idea that we should have no borders at all. >> lord taylor mark, first of all, i know you loved your father, so i'm sorry to hear about oh, that's so nice of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the focus should be on where we are now. the plan will the rwanda plan work? and i think the chances of working range the chances of it working range between zero. it's not between nil and zero. it's not about thoughts civil about the thoughts of civil servants or will the plan work ? servants or will the plan work? >> well, that's obviously a big legal issue. and robert jenrick has resigned over it. spoke on breakfast television this morning saying it's non—starter. >> there's a massive own goal for the for the government, but there's, you know, notwithstanding the rwanda

policy, it seems there is a lack of will within government and within the civil service to stop the boats. well, the civil servants have to carry out the will of the politicians. so do they. >> what about the blob of which dominic cummings. >> so they're excoriating. but if a bill or a law is defective, it's not going to work. this if a bill or a law is defective, it's not going to work . this is it's not going to work. this is the question. the civil service, the question. the civil service, the established, you know, whether it's the media, whether it's politicians, whether it's the service, the judiciary it's politicians, whether it's th the service, the judiciary it's politicians, whether it's th the willervice, the judiciary it's politicians, whether it's th the will there. the judiciary it's politicians, whether it's th the will there to |e judiciary it's politicians, whether it's th the will there to control ary is the will there to control these numbers . these numbers. >> because it seems to me like it's my view as and listeners who are concerned. but not the well—heeled elite. >> well i know that judges and lefty lawyers get the blame, but they have work on the law they have to work on the law before them. the law has before them. and if the law has loopholes and is defective, they have exploit it. have to exploit it. >> joanne, do you think is >> joanne, what do you think is at play here? >> well, i mean, think in this >> well, i mean, i think in this particular what we're particular instance, what we're talking about is not so much any weaknesses civil weaknesses within the civil service i'm sure there service of which i'm sure there are. will there will be are. there will be there will be politically civil politically driven civil servants. we what do servants. but what we what we do have is a basically a party

have here is a basically a party that's split pretty much down the middle. it's the the middle. it's like the philosophy should be guiding. >> it needs two wings to fly and indeed on the ground. >> well, here's a question for you folks. will we ever stop the boats? labour will. boats? i'm not sure labour will. and the tories have and certainly the tories have not. michael rightly not. and as michael rightly pointed rather bigger pointed out, the rather bigger elephant room legal net elephant in the room legal net migration . but up next in migration. but coming up next in the story, the mail the big story, the mail on sunday report boris johnson sunday report that boris johnson could return could send occasionally return as minister and give nigel as prime minister and give nigel farage top job in his farage a top job in his government. we'll get reaction from fearless rebel philip from fearless tory rebel philip davis .

europe. your listening to gb news radio . when did it become news radio. when did it become conscious , herschel, to police conscious, herschel, to police your borders to have national boundaries? >> will britain ever stop the boats big reaction to my big opinion. amy says mark, i was a civil servant for over 39 years and i always did my job as laid

down by the government. i also ensured my staff did the same as i see it. the civil servants deliberately defy the legal government of the day. they should be given their marching orders. maria says . we are lions orders. maria says. we are lions led by donkeys the government gave £250 million to rwanda. they must be laughing at us. and chris says , hi, mark. lefty chris says, hi, mark. lefty lawyers who advise illegal immigrants to lie and gain the system should be prosecuted with the full force of the law. is this even possible? chris, thank you for that. keep those opinions coming. mark gbnews.com. i'll be dealing with prince harry at ten who's had a week to forget, but right next up, let's get to this. it's time for the big story and the mail on sunday sensationally report that boris johnson remember him could return as prime minister under astonishing plans being hatched by tory mps with a so—called dream ticket leadership tie up with nigel farage even being considered .

farage even being considered. the paper has spoken to multiple conservative mps who believe that bringing back the former premier is the only way to save the an election. the party from an election. wipe—out. goes that a wipe—out. the theory goes that a tory mp could give up their safe seat, it to johnson and seat, hand it to johnson and should he get back into number 10, he could potentially put nigel the house of lords and nigel in the house of lords and make a government minister. make him a government minister. could should it could it happen? should it happen? let's get the views now of gb news star and conservative mp philip davies. philip great to have you on the show. what's your reaction to this story? is there anything in it so it's a load of old nonsense. >> mark there's absolutely zero chance of boris johnson coming back as prime minister it's just not going to happen . anybody who not going to happen. anybody who thinks that's going to happen then needs to stop taking whatever drugs they're on. >> however desperate times make for desperate measures , don't for desperate measures, don't they? at this point, it is time to throw the kitchen sink at it. otherwise the tories will lose in a year's time.

otherwise the tories will lose in a year's time . yeah in a year's time. yeah >> no, we've got a mountain to climb. absolutely we've. we've had a mountain to climb ever since. uh, liz truss ended being prime minister. and we're not going to win the next election by coming up with crackpot theories that boris is going to come back into parliament and make nigel farage a government minister. it'sjust it's make nigel farage a government minister. it's just it's just not going to happen. i mean, look, nobody would love more than me for nigel farage to be a conservative minister in a conservative government. but it's not going to happen with bofis it's not going to happen with boris as prime minister, boris johnson as prime minister, to perfectly honest . to be perfectly honest. >> you predict some kind of >> do you predict some kind of dramatic in the next few dramatic moment in the next few months? do you think that rishi sunak could fall as prime minister . no sunak could fall as prime minister. no no, there's going to be no leadership contest. >> there's no leadership election. there's no leadership vacancy. there isn't going to be one. rishi sunak's going to lead us into the next general election. and the sooner some of

my understand my colleagues understand that, the the fact of the the better the fact of the matter is that we need to be turning our fire on keir starmer and the labour party. keir starmer is hoping become starmer is hoping to become prime minister by saying nothing, believing in nothing and hoping nobody notices and hoping that nobody notices and hoping that nobody notices andifs and hoping that nobody notices and it's duty to actually and it's our duty to actually highlight that to the public and any of my colleagues who think that interests best that our interests are best served by fighting amongst ourselves need looking at, frankly , clearly you don't think frankly, clearly you don't think that replacing rishi sunak is the answer now ? the answer now? >> i would agree. i happen to think that he's a good prime minister, but i specialise. philip, as you know, in unfashionable views . what does unfashionable views. what does sunak to do to move the sunak need to do to move the dial for his premiership ? he's dial for his premiership? he's still incumbent. he's still still the incumbent. he's still got his hands . got some time on his hands. >> yeah . look, we all know we've >> yeah. look, we all know we've got to solve the immigration problem, and rishi has proposed the toughest measures. any prime minister has ever dreamt of in the bill that we are voting on next week. it delivers a 95, i think, of what even the most

hardline person would ask for it. it makes clear that the british parliament is sovereign , british parliament is sovereign, that courts can't override the decision of parliament, that the european court of human rights won't stop people being deported to rwanda. it's all the things that we've all been asking for. so, you know, rather than focusing on the 2 or 3% that some people don't like, we should be thankful that we're actually real tough actually getting some real tough measures here behind it measures here and get behind it and the fire on labour and and turn the fire on labour and say, will you do? because say, what will you do? because we the answer that. we know the answer to that. they'll absolutely nothing. they'll do absolutely nothing. at trying to sort at least we're trying to sort the out. and the problem out. and these measures are as as measures are as tough as anyone's ever proposed in history as a as a british prime minister. >> what's your appraisal of the prime minister's frame of mind at the moment? has his head dropped? do you think he's given up . up the fight. >> no, definitely not. no. and he came to the 1922 committee last week. he was fantastic. he was brilliant. he was pugnacious . he was on top of his brief.

no, he's ready for the fight. i think what we all owe as conservative mps is to get behind him and take the fight to labour as well. he can't do it by himself. he needs us to get behind him too. so, you know, really, this isn't a we're not in a situation where we've got a vote of confidence the vote of confidence in the government. got a vote in government. we've got a vote in confidence the common sense confidence in the common sense of conservative backbenchers to get minister get behind the prime minister and tough and deliver these tough immigration measures that people want to see and turn the fire on the labour party. that's really what people are crying for what people are crying out for and that's what we all should be doing. >> do you think the rwanda legislation will pass the commons you commons this tuesday and do you think flights will be think that flights will be getting the ground before getting off the ground before the a question the next election? a question that lord michael howard on friday was not able to answer when put him .yeah friday was not able to answer when put him . yeah the when i put it to him. yeah the bill will go through on tuesday. >> i mean, any conservative mp who doesn't vote for the bill on tuesday must be completely mad. i even everyone agrees i mean, even everyone agrees that this is much better than

the status quo . so surely you'd the status quo. so surely you'd vote for something that's better than the status quo . and if you than the status quo. and if you think that this bill tough enough. think that this bill tough enough . unfortunately we've lost enough. unfortunately we've lost the line to fill . the line to fill. >> but fascinating to get his input. >> but fascinating to get his input . your reaction to what input. your reaction to what philip davis mp has had to say? he wants to stick with rishi sunak and he said that that rwanda legislation will pass the commons and that frankly, there's plenty to play for. mark at gbnews.com. let me know your thoughts. but coming up next with pundits is with tonight's top pundits is labour's streeting labour's wes streeting right that nhs exploits every that the nhs exploits every winter crisis just to get more money? and should brits ditch the turkey and go vegan to save the turkey and go vegan to save the planet this christmas? plus, we've been conducting an exclusive dolan tonight exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking as support doubles as their support doubles in a year richard tice reform uk year is richard tice reform uk party the final nail in the tory coffin? well, the results are in. i shall reveal all

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street really in the east end. >> i'll get to your emails very shortly, but we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight, people's poll. we've been asking as their support doubles in a year is richard reform uk party the richard tice reform uk party the final nail in the tory coffin? well the results are in an 82.3% say yes, whilst 17.7% say no, which is damning. and more bad news for rishi sunak now reacting to the big stories of the day. tonight's top pundits, lord taylor of warwick, political commentator joanne nadler broadcaster, nadler and broadcaster, journalist author michael journalist and author michael crick. it's that time of crick. now it's that time of year where everyone's coughing and and the nhs has an and sneezing and the nhs has an influx of patients. yet labour's wes streeting has said the nhs uses every winter crisis as an excuse to ask for more money. he said the health service need us to accept that money is tight and to rethink how it provides care to patients. so lord taylor , do you think that wes streeting has a point and politically, why has he said

this? >> probably ambition . i think he >> probably ambition. i think he wants to be leader of the labour party, but i actually agree with him because the nhs has had more money put into it than ever before. but it's like pouring water into a leaking can. it's how effective is it? so we need to look technology. for to look at technology. for example, to see example, look at al to see how we can more effective in we can be more effective in terms treating patients. terms of treating patients. we're living longer and we're all living longer and consultants to work seven days a week. >> e“ e’- week. >> of thing. hospital >> that sort of thing. hospital theatres to be. i don't want to see over seven staff, you see 24 over seven staff, you know, overworked. see 24 over seven staff, you kno but verworked. see 24 over seven staff, you kno but i arworked. see 24 over seven staff, you knobut i thinkzed. see 24 over seven staff, you kno but i think we see 24 over seven staff, you knobut i think we could be using >> but i think we could be using a more efficient system. and i think ai technology is a way forward. >> indeed. joanne your reaction to these comments from wes streeting? >> interesting and >> well, interesting in and of themselves, also interesting themselves, but also interesting because it shows just how focussed the labour is on focussed the labour party is on winning election. winning the next election. i mean, fundamentally though, this could be quite a significant thing because if anybody is going to reform the nhs then it does need to be the labour party. it's that sort of nixon goes to china, they've got the political capital with which to do it. yeah, not to say

do it. yeah, that's not to say though, that would able though, that they would be able to unions with them. if to take the unions with them. if you think number of you think of the number of strikes that we've had in the nhs under this government, perhaps intention perhaps with the intention partly down this partly of bringing down this government, then to government, were they then to usher government that was usher in a government that was prepared the sort of prepared to do the sort of things that wes streeting seems to at, then suspect to be hinting at, then i suspect labour would also have a problem with vested interests with the vested interests of providers , fair to providers, a fair play to laboun providers, a fair play to labour, because since keir starmer they've starmer became leader they've been developing this theme that the nhs problems are not exclusive financial, which i think quite constructive . think is quite constructive. >> is actually. it's >> michael it is actually. it's fascinating thing watching wes streeting think streeting streeting i think wes streeting is interesting and is the most interesting and effective operator in the labour shadow cabinet. i think he's a bit of a thug and, and you know, the people who work in the nhs are being warned and if you know, the junior doctors ought to settle their dispute now with the conservative government rather than have a punch up with wes streeting , i mean labour wes streeting, i mean labour health secretaries, education secretaries, home secretaries always have punch ups with the

people who work in their areas as as do conservatives. but it's extraordinary that the shadow health secretary is sort of signalling now that, you know , signalling now that, you know, things are going to be tight under labour as probably as tight under labour as they are under the conservatives. what's really fascinating is how streeting again and again and again pushes back the boundaries. every speech he makes, thing he says on makes, every thing he says on this is clearly trying to this and is clearly trying to bnng this and is clearly trying to bring about , this and is clearly trying to bring about, you know, for once really very radical reform in the nhs of the kind you would expect from a party of the right , not from a party of what used to be a party of the left. well, indeed. >> i mean, joanne, it's a question, perhaps a national conversation. should the nhs budget frozen and the budget be frozen and the organisation be more efficient with the 160 billion odd that it accrues every year? >> well, i think if you put it in those terms, then then you know, the majority of people i suspect would agree to it in those terms. but so often the

discussion that we have about the nhs is couched in completely different terms. >> the problem for labour is if they become the government, they've close link with they become the government, theyunions close link with they become the government, theyunions , close link with they become the government, theyunions , that'sose link with they become the government, theyunions , that's for link with they become the government, theyunions , that's for sure. with the unions, that's for sure. i think that's going to be a big test for them. >> well indeed. and potential industrial action been industrial action as has been mentioned. know that mentioned. i mean we know that rishi hasn't yielded to rishi sunak hasn't yielded to the labour the junior doctors, but labour would massive pressure would be under massive pressure to do so. >> the point i'm making stuff. >> the point i'm making stuff. >> labour's not as close. >> what labour's not as close. well, some of the health unions are labour and labour are not labour unions and labour is to the trade is not as close to the trade unions general as it was unions in general as it was perception of whether. >> the public sector is >> but also the public sector is labour's constituency. >> but also the public sector is labindeed constituency. >> but also the public sector is labindeed , constituency. >> but also the public sector is labindeed , indeedonstituency. >> but also the public sector is labindeed , indeed they:uency. >> but also the public sector is labindeed , indeed they will:y. >> but also the public sector is labindeed , indeed they will be >> indeed, indeed they will be massive expectation . and of massive expectation. and of course the risk is, particularly with a small majority or even a hung parliament situation , is hung parliament situation, is that keir starmer could be, you know, essentially the left of the party could hold the balance of power. if he wants to get his legislation through, he might have to have the support of richard burgon john mcdonnell. >> would. i mean the >> yeah, it would. i mean the left of the are left of the party are a diminished force and they're going fewer of them in the going to be fewer of them in the

next parliament, even if labour has immigration has more mps to the immigration problem we don't have problem because we don't have enough and nurses and problem because we don't have encpeople and nurses and problem because we don't have encpeople in and nurses and problem because we don't have encpeople in social nurses and problem because we don't have encpeople in social care,es and problem because we don't have encpeople in social care, ofand all people in social care, of course. exactly. and she's almost been forgotten. >> yes. >> the debate. yes. >> the debate. yes. >> yes. that that works both ways as well because of course we've lot of with we've got a lot of with increased immigration, we a increased immigration, we have a lot pressure nhs as well. >> and we're living longer. well, indeed. >> and we're living longer. we|well,eed. >> and we're living longer. we|well, listen, living longer, >> well, listen, living longer, i how diet has got i wonder how much diet has got to with that because nothing to do with that because nothing says full says christmas like a full turkey dinner a plate full turkey dinner and a plate full of cheese. unless you're vegan in start are trying in numerous start ups are trying to the traditional foods to mimic the traditional foods by options a bid by making vegan options in a bid to our carbon footprint. to lower our carbon footprint. but the great debate but here's the great debate that's raging online today. should you have a vegan christmas to save the planet? would you be willing to ditch the turkey to go all green? joanne >> absolutely not. i wouldn't be willing to do it. and i'm sure it's not particularly good for the environment either, and i don't think it's particularly for good your health. so if they want take your turkey, get want to take your turkey, get stuffed, is your message? absolutely. think you've. absolutely. i think you've. that's up. that's it. you've summed it up.

>> feel, though, that >> it does feel, though, that this is the way conversation this is the way the conversation is going that have a duty, is going is that we have a duty, a responsibility eat less a responsibility to eat less meat. there's going to be those siren veganism or siren calls for veganism or plant based are going to get louder, aren't they? well, i'm not sure. >> i mean, in terms of a of a duty to eat less meat. i mean, turkey, mean, it's barely turkey, i mean, it's barely qualifies as meat, really. does it? i mean, it's pretty it? i mean, yeah, it's pretty low the scale. low down the scale. >> you like a rib >> rib eye. you sound like a rib eye very, very red eye person. very, very red blooded. do you think? blooded. what do you think? would you to save the would you go vegan to save the planet this christmas? >> i ought to. >> well, i ought to. >> well, i ought to. >> i know that. if you gave >> i know that. and if you gave me notice about if said next me notice about if you said next christmas, next year, would you be i'd think it's worth be vegan? i'd think it's worth trying an experiment. mean, trying as an experiment. i mean, i cooking and not i will be cooking and not a roast this year, as i do most years, as well as the turkey. in fact, the nut roast takes longer because have chop up so because you have to chop up so much stuff, roast. well much stuff, do a nut roast. well because daughter likes it. because my daughter likes it. and it's alternative . and also it's an alternative. and also it's an alternative. and my roast tastes a very and my nut roast tastes a very tasty but a beef wellington as the alternative to the turkey. well, that's a but that's no

good for vegans is it? and or vegetarians. but i mean i think i think the, the feeling is right. but you know, i'm a bit of a hypocrite . i don't do all of a hypocrite. i don't do all the things i ought to do to save the things i ought to do to save the planet, but i still want to save the planet. >> i'm fascinated by your nut roast. i've got to say, michael crick book cookbook. delia smith, heart why smith, eat your heart out. why do think would you. would do you think would you. would you. you bin the turkey to you. would you bin the turkey to save planet? save the planet? >> you if turkey was that >> you know, if turkey was that popular, eat it all popular, why don't we eat it all year long? that's true. you know my christmas is my problem at christmas is christmas keep saying no christmas cake. i keep saying no to the cake, but it doesn't listen. and that's my problem. >> is story. the story >> that is the story. the story of my life as well. >> brilliant stuff. look my brilliant pundits will be back shortly my take at ten, in shortly for my take at ten, in which i'll dealing with which i'll be dealing with prince who has a had prince harry, who has a had a he's had a week to forget. let me tell you. but look, i'm really looking to really looking forward to my next my mark meets next guest. it is my mark meets guest. she's sarah de lagarde, a woman survived woman who miraculously survived being two separate being run over by two separate trains, her body damaged. but her tells her her spirit alive. she tells her amazing story.

next in my take at ten, in just 20 minutes time, i'll be dealing with the prodigal prince. prince harry, who has had a week to forget my verdict at 10:00. but first, this . it's time now for first, this. it's time now for mark meets. and tonight , the mark meets. and tonight, the remarkable sarah de lagarde who lost her right arm and right leg when she was run over by two london underground trains after slipping on a platform and falling onto the tracks. the accident happened as sarah was travelling home from work on a rainy night in september of last yeah rainy night in september of last year. doctors told her that she nearly died ten times on the night of the accident. however, with the help of two prosthetic limbs, she has rebuilt her life and her body . and i'm privileged and her body. and i'm privileged to say that she joins me now. great to have you , sarah.

great to have you, sarah. >> thank you for having me . >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> can i congratulate you on your amazing recovery ? let's your amazing recovery? let's have a look at the story i've been reading in detail about what happened. if we can go back to that terrible night, it was wet and you slipped. you crashed into stationary train , fell into a stationary train, fell down between the train down the gap between the train and now, at this and the platform. now, at this point that you've broken your nose damaged your front point that you've broken your nose butdamaged your front point that you've broken your nose but there's d your front point that you've broken your nose but there's time|r front point that you've broken your nose but there's time foront point that you've broken your nose but there's time for you teeth, but there's time for you to be rescued. why weren't you? >> well, actually , i don't know. >> well, actually, i don't know. i'm not exactly sure. i know that there were plenty of opportunities for me to be saved at various stages, which meant i could have gotten away. probably with a broken nose and broken teeth , which is not that bad, teeth, which is not that bad, considering what happened after i know that the train driver walked down, found my laptop bag , but didn't think that it was anything to be investigated. just picked it up, flung it over his shoulder and drove off and had he just looked down, i was unconscious on the floor. i

just. >> i see. so you were unconscious, though, for those 15 minutes? you were you were not able physically to call for help? >> well, i was unconscious for perhaps a couple of minutes. right. but then i awoke as the train departed and crushed my arm above the elbow . i fell arm above the elbow. i fell a flash of pain at that moment. but then all i could focus on was how do i save myself? this is not a great situation to be in. and i screamed for help . i in. and i screamed for help. i know. and your screams were not heard ? heard? >> no. >> no. >> is that because people were not nearby or was the station noisy ? do we know why you noisy? do we know why you weren't heard? >> i don't know . weren't heard? >> i don't know. it's an overground station where it was and i, i, i asked about cctv being watched. i thought cctv was being watched live. you would expect. but it's not. i was given the excuse that, you know. oh, we see so many

thousands of feeds. no human can watch that full time. and i thought in the day of artificial intelligence , you would think intelligence, you would think that that's a good use of it . so that that's a good use of it. so yeah, i spent 15 minutes on the tracks and i have white blonde hair and i've got i was wearing a neon pink coat. it wasn't that late. it was about nine ish on a friday, which is not a late time, but it's, it's clear to you that nobody noticed. >> you don't think that you were seen and people didn't act to you, or is that possible? >> i don't think so. i think if people would have seen me or heard, they would have raised the alarm. >> you lost your arm. >> you lost your arm. >> how long did it take for the next train to take your leg? >> that was within those 15 minutes. so the second train came in. and again, second opportunity here would have been to see me on the tracks. but the train driver did not see me. where again, you think like, why

? why you're driving into a station, you look in front of you and on the side i was there and clearly visible. well i know that you feel very strongly and i think rightly, you feel strongly that this was avoidable. >> all of these moments were avoidable. and we'll come to that. but i understand that it was thinking about your daughters that kept you going as you on tracks . yes, absolutely. >> there's something really strange that happens when i knew i was in a very dangerous situation. i knew that i was losing a lot of blood . i knew losing a lot of blood. i knew that i didn't have very long. and it was the thought of my children that really kept me going. and i really could see them in my mind's eye where they were like, mummy, what are you doing? you're supposed be doing? you're supposed to be home. it's home. and i guess it's a mother's instinct that just gets you that hysterical strength or you that hysterical strength or you really hang on. and i slowed down my heartbeat . i really down my heartbeat. i really tried not to panic because my instinct was if i panic , i'm

instinct was if i panic, i'm going to lose more blood . going to lose more blood. >> extraordinary. and after 15 minutes, the signal was raised. the alert was raised. someone did discover you heard me, because i didn't stop shouting for help. >> increasingly louder and louder and louder. you know, you finally heard after 15 minutes. >> but it took an hour for the rescue. the emergency services to arrive. >> yes. and i think that there was a difficulty called the right number, which to me is completely unbelievable . you completely unbelievable. you find somebody who's under a train, you call 999. there is no no doubt about that . but no doubt about that. but apparently they were looking for numbers calling the wrong numbers, people not answering . numbers, people not answering. and then they didn't find the right person to turn off the power line. and so nobody could get to me, have tfl who operate the london underground taken responsibility? >> have they said, sorry? >> have they said, sorry? >> they have not taken response liability for what happened ? as

liability for what happened? as a matter of fact, they they have alleged at first that i was intoxica stated that perhaps i was wearing the wrong footwear high heels, and that's why i didn't pay attention enough and fell through the gap . and also fell through the gap. and also everywhere it says quite clearly mind the gap. and so pushing the responsibility on the passenger and i thought that to be really unfair because they had no proof either way, whether i was i wasn't intoxicated and i wore flat shoes. >> and if even if you were wearing high heels and even if you were intoxicated, that's not relevant. >> it's not relevant if you fall onto the tracks, surely that falls into their remit of responsibility. exactly. and what about the mayor sadiq khan? >> i understand you've reached out to him so . out to him so. >> yes, via my mp who is keir starmer. i asked for i've asked for a you know , a meeting with for a you know, a meeting with the chair of tfl, which is a

sadiq khan. and i also wanted to meet with the commissioner of tfl and both have declined to speak to me . speak to me. >> i know that you want lasting change to be the legacy of this. tell me about your petition. >> well, i've launched a petition on change.org and the ask here is for an inquiry into the safety measures for tfl , for the safety measures for tfl, for the safety measures for tfl, for the london underground, because what shocks me the most is that they have tried to describe this as a freak accident, when in fact, according to their own numbers, it happens to people more often than you think it does. 60 mean people a month sustained severe injuries like mine or die. and i think that in a modern society, 16 or 16, too many , it's amazing how far many, it's amazing how far you've come. >> tell me about the challenges of your recovery. it's only just a year. so mentally, physically, what have you been through? >> so i can say i've been

through hell over this past year . my family has gone through hell as well . it is something hell as well. it is something thatis hell as well. it is something that is so shocking, so unexpected happening in such a mundane situation where you think you're safe and you're not. and to, you know, be able bodied one day and disabled the next with no chance of recovery and tfl have treated this like a broken ankle. but these injuries are here for life and that is just really , really difficult to just really, really difficult to come to terms with. >> have you considered legal action? >> yes, i will have to . >> yes, i will have to. >> and how are the girls getting on? you've got two daughters. >> i've got two daughters. >> i've got two daughters. >> what ages are they now? >> what ages are they now? >> they're nine and 13. >> they're nine and 13. >> they're nine and 13. >> they're probably quite impressed amazing impressed by these amazing prosthetics using. impressed by these amazing pros'how:s using. impressed by these amazing pros'how tell using. impressed by these amazing pros'how tell me using. impressed by these amazing pros'how tell me aboutrsing. impressed by these amazing pros'how tell me about the]. yes. how tell me about the prosthetics and how they're helping you so it took quite a little bit of rehabilitation on in order to learn to how walk again. >> so i started off with the leg

prosthesis first. yeah fairly straightforward. quite painful. you need to check your balance all the time. >> when you say it's painful, is that the part that connects to your body is painful? >> yeah. and it's the residual limb needs to heal properly. and we put a lot of weight on on, on that part. so yeah . so that, that part. so yeah. so that, that part. so yeah. so that, that took a little while . the that took a little while. the arm was a journey, an adventure because upper limb prosthetics are not that common and this one |, are not that common and this one i, i found raised for it's not available on the nhs yet hopefully at some point it will it's really really expensive and something as circa 300,000 around that of course priceless to you. yeah priceless . to you. yeah priceless. >> what can you do with it. >> what can you do with it. >> i can i can do quite a lot now. i have to manage expectations. it is not replacing a biological limb, of course. hence us having to cherish the bodies that we have

as they function. yeah but this one is powered by my. my thoughts that instruct my muscles that then twitch in the right combination . and then the right combination. and then the gesture happens. >> so you can will that limb to, to move and to clench fists and all the rest of it. yes true. truly remarkable. listen, tell me what change.org is, where the petition is. if people want to sign and how would they search it? what would they do? >> they would search under my name, sarah lagarde. and name, sarah de lagarde. and we're already over 30,000 signatures there. so clearly it's hitting a nerve. i've received so many messages from people saying like, oh, this nearly happened to me. so it's really more common than we think and something needs to happen. >> something's got to happen. >> something's got to happen. >> and i to congratulate >> and i want to congratulate you on your extraordinary recovery. to girls and recovery. love to your girls and your other half. yes. thank you. and i do hope we see you again. but keep fighting fight. and but keep fighting the fight. and thanks telling your story.

thanks for telling your story. >> much, mark. >> thank you so much, mark. >> thank you so much, mark. >> and humbling. >> fascinating and humbling. i think agree . what a lady. think you'll agree. what a lady. sarah de lagarde. well, listen, i'm going to i'm going to go to a slightly more tabloid matters now, which is i'm a celebrity. and let me confirm, developing tonight, nigel farage has placed third in i'm a celebrity. that's right. he's come third. he got lots further than people expected . we will bring you full expected. we will bring you full uninterrupted reaction at 1030 with former stars of the jungle. some of the biggest names in the country, including boris johnson's dad. that's right. i'm a celebrity special on mark dolan tonight from 1030. but next up, i'll be dealing with prince harry, who's had a week to forget and an widdecombe waiting in the wings. so lots to get through. a very busy hour to come. you're watching mark dolan tonight

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now it's back to. mark >> great stuff. thanks sophia. welcome to mark dolan tonight. as their support doubles in a yearis as their support doubles in a year is richard tice reform uk party the final nail in the tory coffin plus shock . new polls in coffin plus shock. new polls in america suggest that donald trump would beat joe biden in a run off for the presidential election. so would a trump white house be good for britain? i'll be asking ann widdecombe shortly . plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. i'm delighted to have with me lord taylor of warwick , with me lord taylor of warwick, political commentator jo—anne nadler and broadcaster, journalist and author , michael journalist and author, michael crick . now, if you're just crick. now, if you're just joining us, we do have a developing story . joining us, we do have a developing story. nigel joining us, we do have a developing story . nigel farage developing story. nigel farage has placed third in i'm a celebrity. he did brilliantly. no one expected him to get that far . we will bring you full far. we will bring you full analysis. a full post—mortem post—match analysis. if you

like, at 1030. we're going to keep michael because he is nigel's independent biographer. we've also got david van day 80 pop we've also got david van day 80 pop sensation who was in the jungle, stanley johnson live in the studio. and tv and radio legend mike reid as well. so really excited about all the voices. we've got a full debrief of i'm a celebrity at 1030. you won't want to miss it. a packed hour to come. and we do come on the way. but first, my take . at the way. but first, my take. at ten. if poor old rishi thinks he's had a hard week, he can console himself with the knowledge that at least he's not prince harry, who's limped from one disaster to another , his one disaster to another, his needless and spiteful . legal needless and spiteful. legal action against the mail on sunday newspaper has suffered a major setback with judges throwing out his latest legal challenge. the paper accused the sussexes of indulging in misleading spin about their

battle with the home office to get official royal security . get official royal security. harry and meghan misleading spin. perish the thought . for spin. perish the thought. for what it's worth, i think that harry should get full royal protection on because he always has been and always will be. king charles's son. but it's unheard of for a member of the royal family to sue a newspaper, and it heaps further embarrassment on charles. but prince harry, the world's least happy millionaire, stopped caring about that long ago. given the scorn that he and his wife have poured on the family . wife have poured on the family. this legal action is an attack on the free press, whose job it is to hold rich and powerful people like him to account. but of course, this couple don't like anyone that punctures the fairy tale narrative about their life and speaking of fairy tales, their favourite journalist, omid scobie , the man journalist, omid scobie, the man behind this latest poisoned tell all royal book end game, has seen him branded as a liar and blasted for peddling and i

quote, excuses about how the names of king charles and kate middleton were included in the dutch version of the book, alleging them as the royal racists. scobie insisted that they were never named in the book, but the publishers shot back, calling scobie factually incorrect, adding, we do not recognise ourselves. in his representation of events . ouch. representation of events. ouch. to paraphrase the late, great queen elizabeth rikki neave actions may vary. they always do with team sussex . so king with team sussex. so king charles has this week let it be known that he will no longer be emotionally blackmailed by his own son. praise the lord. how can harry sleep at night knowing that the awful accusation of racism hangs over his own father, the king of this country , and his lovely and rather humble sister in law, katherine, who , if we're honest, wouldn't who, if we're honest, wouldn't say boo to a goose. here is the wales's christmas card, isn't it lovely? isn't it graceful ? now,

lovely? isn't it graceful? now, here's the thing. if a member of your family was accused of a crime that they didn't commit in a book, would you speak out? of course you would. but instead, deafening silence from harry and meghan a couple not known for keeping their opinions to themselves . now, i respect the themselves. now, i respect the fact that king charles has kept his counsel and not lowered himself to respond to these horrific accusations . but i'm horrific accusations. but i'm reminded of the great elton john when pursuing legal action against the sun newspaper in the 19805. against the sun newspaper in the 1980s. elton said, you can call me fat. you can call me gay, you can call me a rubbish singer. but don't lie about me. and if you do, i'll come down on you like a ton of bricks. well, the rocketman man won his case, and that's what we need from charles now. a robust defence of his reputation and character. but sadly, he can only do that with the help of the sussexes . if the the help of the sussexes. if the couple don't end the royal race row, then i think charles should

sever all ties. i really do. yes blood is thicker than water, but i doubt it's thicker than prince harry. charles, it's decision time. you've got to decide which way to go with your wayward son, the prodigal prince. back the sack or crack . the decision is sack or crack. the decision is yours . when i said back sack and yours. when i said back sack and crack , i became very physically crack, i became very physically uncomfortable and i don't know why. your reaction market gbnews.com or get to your emails shortly. but first, let's hear from tonight's top pundits, lord taylor of warwick, political commentator jo—anne taylor of warwick, political commentatorjo—anne nadler and commentator jo—anne nadler and broadcaster, journalist and author, michael crick. look, folks, we're going to react to the news that nigel farage has come jungle in just come third in the jungle in just a but your thoughts a moment. but your thoughts about the royal couple will about why the royal couple will not speak out at and defend king charles and catherine lord taylor well , my advice to prince taylor well, my advice to prince harry is that he he needs to get better, not bitter . better, not bitter. >> we know he's had problems in his that

his life. we understand that what to his mother, what happened to his mother, diana, but but diana, was terrible. but but he's also been blessed more than many people on earth. and he needs to build on that because he's only damaging himself. you know, brave the king know, i say long brave the king because king charles has to really show determination not to bow down to their immaturity. i mean, he really is the prodigal son, harry. and the prodigal son did return eventually . did return eventually. >> he jo—anne nadler. did return eventually. >> he jo—anne nadler . we know >> he jo—anne nadler. we know that harry and meghan faced a lot of negative press. they are human beings. they got a couple of kids. they're trying to make their way with a new life in america, and i wish them good luck.i america, and i wish them good luck. i think sometimes the press is very harsh them, but press is very harsh on them, but this a crisis, this of their this is a crisis, this of their own making. i agree with all of that, own making. i agree with all of thai mean, i think the name of >> i mean, i think the name of omid scobie's book, end game, does seem to suggest that there's some deliberation on their something their part to do something pretty fundamental the royal pretty fundamental to the royal family and on that basis, i agree with you. i think prince charles has to be firm with harry. but i would disagree with you that he has to sack harry.

how do you go about sacking him? i think he needs to continue in the same vein as as the late queen anne and issue dignified, but cutting comments where necessary. and i totally agree with with the comments that that lord taylor made that harry needs to build on his very good fortune and his success. and i think only by doing that will he win his way back into the hearts of the british people. >> michael, how do you solve a problem like prince harry? >> i've no idea. i mean, you know , in a way, it's a it's know, in a way, it's a it's a larger than life version of problems that many families have . i don't think charles can cut harry off completely because, you know, what would then stop harry flying over to london and tipping the media off that he was around and going and knocking on the doors of buckingham palace or windsor castle and trying to walk in and see charles. he could make

things a lot, lot worse . and things a lot, lot worse. and somebody has to act as a go. well, presumably there are go betweens, but this really does have to be resolved. i don't believe in a million years that charles is a racist. i think charles is a racist. i think charles is a very liberal man, actually , compared with some of actually, compared with some of the other members of the royal family that we've known in the past. and so i just think this story is absurd . and i think it story is absurd. and i think it you know, any family would speculate. i think about, you know, in a mixed marriage like that , what's the what's the baby that, what's the what's the baby going to look like? i don't think it's racist to do so . and think it's racist to do so. and we don't even know whether it's true anyway . and so i just wish true anyway. and so i just wish this story would go away. it's just a soap opera and i find it very, very boring . but i very, very boring. but i recognise that large numbers of people don't. >> well, i'm bored of it too. i'm tired of this soap opera. couldn't agree more, michael, but it can be ended very quickly. and that's for prince to harry say. my father is no racist at. listen, what we're going to do is an unusual format

tonight. nigel farage has come third so at 1030, third in the jungle. so at 1030, we're a celebrity we're doing an i'm a celebrity special with post—match special with full post—match reaction going to hang reaction on. we're going to hang on michael because michael on to michael because michael is, course, nigel farage is is, of course, nigel farage is unofficial independent biography . you wrote a brilliant book about nigel. so you're going to stick around. and joanne and lord taylor, apologies, we're going to say or avoir at this point because be making point because you'll be making way big stars of the way for several big stars of the jungle, including stanley johnson, mike and david van johnson, mike reid and david van day . but johnson, mike reid and david van day. but whilst johnson, mike reid and david van day . but whilst got both of day. but whilst i've got both of you, nadler, your you, jo—anne nadler, your reaction to nigel third? reaction to nigel coming third? >> oh , very disappointing. i'd >> oh, very disappointing. i'd love have him win . i love to have seen him win. i think it would have been great television, but more importantly, might have importantly, it might have launched him into a very important moment, which i dare say he's going to grab anyway politically here. so i think he's probably going to be seen as being the winner in most people's minds. lord taylor, looking back on it, nigel goes into the jungle, no great dramas i >> -- >> he doesn't offend anyone. he's charming. he's authentic, he's sincere. he's the nigel

that know and love. do you that we know and love. do you think it was a good move for him to go into the jungle? >> think it was because more >> i think it was because more people about nigel, people know about nigel, especially the younger generation. did well generation. i think he did well to third, we know that itv to come. third, we know that itv probably didn't want him to win, so battle against so he had to battle against that. but no, let's welcome him back he'll be back and i think he'll be returning politics at some returning to politics at some stage. which party, stage. it depends which party, but i think will be back in politics. >> joanne and john, we will have you back for the full two hours next time. an absolute delight to you with us tonight. but to have you with us tonight. but listen, going listen, folks, michael's going to for the full to stick around for the full post. celebrity analysis. post. i'm a celebrity analysis. also up, their support also coming up, as their support doubles year, is richard also coming up, as their support doulreform year, is richard also coming up, as their support doulreform ukar, is richard also coming up, as their support doulreform uk partyrichard also coming up, as their support doulreform uk party the ard also coming up, as their support doulreform uk party the final tice reform uk party the final nail in the tory coffin? plus, let me ask you this. would a donald trump white house be good for britain? because the polls say that's what's going to happen. we'll get reaction from ann widdecombe who's

news radio . news radio. >> it's time now for the

newsmaker and in just a moment, as polling suggests , donald as polling suggests, donald trump will beat joe biden in 2024. would a trump white house be good for britain? but first, he express newspaper report that the may have prepare the tories may have to prepare for loss of up to 35 seats for the loss of up to 35 seats at the hands of reform uk at the next election. so could richard tice insurgent party be the nail in the tory coffin ? let's speak in the tory coffin? let's speak to one of its most high profile supporters, former government minister broadcaster and a very good of mine, ann good friend of mine, ann widdecombe. and we've had bit widdecombe. and we've had a bit of the line. of a challenge with the line. but hearing but are you hearing me? >> indeed, yes . >> i am indeed, yes. >> i am indeed, yes. >> and we get to reform >> and before we get to reform uk's triumph, your instant reaction to the news that nigel farage has come third in i'm a celebrity . is that a farage has come third in i'm a celebrity. is that a win ? celebrity. is that a win? >> oh, that's a win. yes the whole venture has been a win. i wish he'd come first or even second. but third is not only respectable , i mean, he got respectable, i mean, he got through to the final and he got there because of the way he conducted himself in the jungle.

so yes. and he's introduced himself to a whole lot of people who've never really taken much interest in him before, who's now seen what he's really like. i think , yeah, it's a win i think, yeah, it's a win because the nation got to know the guy, the nigel farage, that, you know, authentic, sincere and a pretty nice guy . well, indeed . a pretty nice guy. well, indeed. i mean, nigel's always had to rely on how the media presented him , as we all do. and the media him, as we all do. and the media isn't always fair, and particularly the left wing media. but i think, you know, he's come through all of that and people have seen a completely different side to him , which we know has always been there. >> and what is his potential politically going forward? i know he's not going to be prime minister next week, but does this help him in any future ambitions ? ambitions? >> well, i think we shall see him playing an enormous part in the reform campaign in the coming year. and in the general

election . and then i think it's election. and then i think it's a question of where he wants to go from there . and i don't see go from there. and i don't see him rejoining the conservatives relatives, as everybody says, i don't see that. i think that's just speculation, ian, but i do see him playing a major part in in affairs of state. yes richard tice is a formidable leader and a great broadcaster here at gb news, but do you think he would step aside for nigel if he chose to take the helm of the party? well, i don't think it's necessary for him to step aside because they play completely different roles and nigel is very largely a personality and campaigning role. richard tice is running the party, developing policy, getting us ready to fight a campaign, getting us into a position where we might be able to win seats. and the success of that is clearly demonstrated in the polls. richard has got success that he can actually demonstrate. so i think they're playing different

roles. and you know, i know that that politics is all about personality, but actually in reform, um, it's about getting the job done. >> and of course, and you were both, as a government minister, support for this brand new party is upwards of 10, which is a remarkable achievement. what do you put it to ? down you put it to? down >> i put it down to the fact that we're talking about the things that the british are concerned about. they're concerned about. they're concerned about. they're concerned about cost of living, uh, the level of taxation, the level immigration, the length level of immigration, the length of the queues for the nhs . those of the queues for the nhs. those are the things that britain are concerned about. britain is not concerned about. britain is not concerned about. britain is not concerned about going woke . it's concerned about going woke. it's not concerned about having an extreme trans agenda . it's not extreme trans agenda. it's not concerned about focusing on microaggressions. it's concerned with pure common sense. and when people say to me , what is the people say to me, what is the reason that reform is doing so well in the polls, i reply in two words common sense . yes. two words common sense. yes. >> what does success look like for reform uk at the next

election? >> an i think the success will be i think we may well win seats, but the big success will be that we will force our agenda on whatever remains of the conservative party do you think a merger is possible between the tories and reform uk ? tories and reform uk? >> i think after the next election there is a possibility andifs election there is a possibility and it's only a possibility and i don't insist it will happen. but the conservative party will split. i mean , should it split? split. i mean, should it split? at the moment, but it will split formally with the left going to the lib dems and the centre and the lib dems and the centre and the right coming to reform . that the right coming to reform. that is perfectly possible . well, um, is perfectly possible. well, um, you know , people ask if reform you know, people ask if reform is the last nail in the tory coffin, there's no room for any more nails and all the nails that are there are there by the conservative lives. they've killed themselves . i mean, it's

killed themselves. i mean, it's unbelievable. they came in with a record majority , a huge a record majority, a huge majority, and now look at them. just look at them. and in one way, it breaks my heart. but in a in another way, i just feel so frustrated that i just think the sooner they're out, the better. >> now, an briefly on america, the latest polling suggests that donald trump would beat joe biden in a presidential race in 2024. i've got no doubt an that as a woman of faith and integrity, you must have reservations about donald trump's character. but do you think a trump white house would be good for britain ? be good for britain? >> well, of course i've got reservations about donald trump. i can't believe the choice that the american people is being asked to made between a senile old fool, to put it bluntly, an and trump who suddenly, you know , got some very questionable aspects about him. but if it's a choice between those two, then trump is at least pro—british, whereas biden is certainly not

and trump is pro brexit, which biden is certainly not. so of the two trump would from my point of view, from the britain's point of view, would be infinitely preferable . be infinitely preferable. >> and i look forward to our final encounter of the year next sunday. it's always a joy to have you on the show. have an excellent week and i'll catch you in seven days. the brilliant ann widdecombe broadcaster, former government minister. we're tomorrow's we're coming up. tomorrow's newspaper i've newspaper front pages. and i've spoken dominic we spoken to producer dominic we have essentially here's the have well essentially here's the running order for the show . running order for the show. that's what we're doing with the running order, because nigel farage has come third on i'm a celebrity. full reaction next. bofis celebrity. full reaction next. boris johnson's dad, stanley live in the studio, tv and radio legend mike reid. he was in the jungle. he joins us as well . jungle. he joins us as well. david van, day 90 pop star, also with us and nigel farage is unauthorised biographer , the unauthorised biographer, the brilliant michael crick. all of that, plus so much more. it is

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radio. >> okay, folks , it's out there. >> okay, folks, it's out there. nigel farage has come third in. i'm a celebrity. don't know who's won it yet. don't know who's won it yet. don't know who's come second. don't care. the bottom line is that the man behind brexit, the man behind the broadcasting revolution, thatis the broadcasting revolution, that is gb news has prevailed in the jungle. no one thought he'd get this he was very get this far. he was very natural. he was himself. he was authentic, and the public loved him . so what are the him. so what are the implications of rather implications of this rather impressive ? well, impressive achievement? well, full reaction comes up, including 80s pop superstar david van day and radio and tv legend mike reid, both of whom were on i'm a celebrity. but with me in the studio is one of the best known fathers in the country and frankly, a properly authorised and illustrious man in his own right, stanley johnson , political commentator, johnson, political commentator, writer, author , ecological

writer, author, ecological campaigner and former star of the jungle. >> well, not actually the star of the jungle. i mean, that was tough that year. but a runner up, not even a runner up. but i there i was. i was. i was there. i was in the pack. >> well, look, it's so great. >> well, look, it's so great. >> i know you've been glued to the action tonight. also with me is my pundit. tonight, nigel farage unauth authorised farage is unauth authorised biographer. crick . so biographer. michael crick. so let's stanley. let's start with you, stanley. coming is that something coming third. is that something nigel can proud of, or should nigel can be proud of, or should he be disappointed have he be disappointed not to have won? don't think so. i've >> no, i don't think so. i've just looked at what the interviewees just had with ant and dec digging the interview. they asked him why do you really do it? and nigel, i believe him. he said, sense of adventure . he he said, sense of adventure. he said he thought he was getting on a bit 60 years. he said he's old. well, i might point out i might have pointed out to him that i was just about 80 when i when i did this. he could suddenly go on quite a few years, just about 80. >> how is that possible? >> how is that possible? >> i think i was 79.

>> i think i was 79. >> look very young for your years. >> i think you wear it well. no, honestly. good genes. i him honestly. good genes. i took him at face value on this one. he said. he said lovely things about countryside and about the countryside and the kookaburras, the cuckoos, the frogs, they had a of frogs, even. they had a lot of rain. he talks about talking to people. wouldn't people. he perhaps wouldn't normally well it normally have talked to. well it was all good. no, he came across from my point of view, very normal and natural in that final interview. and i say on the whole, and he made one very good point, he said he never raised the political subjects. he responded if someone raised them, never raised them himself. >> were there any problematic moments from nigel, do you think, noticed it? think, that you noticed it? >> i think there was >> well, i think there was a problematic moment. he had a bit of a an argument, i think, with possibly with mr syria. i can't remember what it was about. but on the whole, i think i think brexit might have come up. >> i could have been you can't be syria. >> yeah, exactly . >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> that's. and he had a bit of a mcenroe had a ding dong with with nella rose the youtube

influencer about immigration as well. >> but i wonder what was great about his contribution to the show is not just that he came across well, he was himself, but he sparked a national conversation about some important issues. >> well, he certainly did. of course, he wouldn't parted >> well, he certainly did. of course, conversation parted >> well, he certainly did. of course, conversation because ted in that conversation because it's on while it's all been going on while he's away , unless he's had he's been away, unless he's had some secret sources of information. apparently, had information. apparently, he had some cigarettes . so maybe information. apparently, he had soncigarettesigarettes . so maybe information. apparently, he had soncigarettes have tes . so maybe information. apparently, he had soncigarettes have contained aybe the cigarettes have contained secret messages. who knows about the debate going on? the immigration debate going on? well, when he comes back, he is going to be in the thick of that debate and he's going to whether he has whether his time to be be for the tuesday vote or not. i don't should so. don't know. i should think so. i just he's probably just think he's probably recovering. but he may have a useful comment to make. >> michael, a very >> michael, you wrote a very compelling about nigel compelling book about nigel farage. seen in the farage. what you've seen in the jungle. the jungle. does this fit with the narrative in your narrative established in your book ambitious and book about an ambitious and clever man? >> certainly . an >> well, he's certainly. an ambitious and clever man. i think what farage has been very successful in this venture. i mean, i think he would if you

told him at the start, he would come third. i think he would have been delighted. i think actually probably he's slightly disappointed actually probably he's slightly disappoi things been because things have been going well. slightly well. he's probably slightly disappointed he didn't come first or second. i mean, the purpose it was, was to show purpose of it was, was to show a different of farage. and different side of farage. and there a different side. he there is a different side. he does have certain charm and does have a certain charm and charisma, and he's he's charisma, and he's and he's very, very clever playing, very, very clever in playing, you raising political you know, not raising political stuff up and just just responding when people said, but i mean, it has to be said, there is another side to farage, too, in that , you know, he does when in that, you know, he does when in that, you know, he does when in politics in his part all his parties. my book is called one party after another. and in ukip and the brexit party, he did have a habit of falling out with just about anybody who was anybody you know, all the other leaders of the of ukip and the brexit party. one after another. he is a very ruthless operator . he is a very ruthless operator. and you didn't really see i don't think any of that. i mean, i haven't been watching the episodes. i just haven't had time. and i keep saying i must catch up with them. but i've

been hearing about them and there has been putting a performance. >> do you think has he been faking it three weeks? well, faking it for three weeks? well, i think he's been showing, you know, side can know, the nicer side of can can you it three weeks and you fake it for three weeks and stanley, i didn't i don't think so. 50. >> so. >> i just went on being pretty much as i thought i would normally stanley is stanley we know normally. no i sat on know that normally. no i sat on this i was going to say platform it's a platform sofa. it's not a platform sofa. >> it's what it is. >> it's what it is. >> it's what it is. >> it's a very cheap sofa that's seen better days. >> so long ago, i think. and >> not so long ago, i think. and i think you were in the chair, as were, and said that as it were, and said that i thought that the tory party would well to, you know, to would do well to, you know, to contemplate offering. and then i think prime minister said on think the prime minister said on some going somewhere the some plane going somewhere the other has said and other day, stanley has said and he said, well, actually we're a broad church. yes. or whatever. now i think it would be now i think that it would be good at this moment for the tory party to open its arms. yes our arms. their arms . party to open its arms. yes our arms. their arms. i party to open its arms. yes our arms. their arms . i want to get arms. their arms. i want to get the pronoun right here. correct >> i don't want to get cancelled standing to mr farage, partly

because think of the total chaos it would be for the tory party if he really came in. >> now in a big way for reform and help reform . now, remember and help reform. now, remember what happened in 2019. he actually didn't didn't fight quite a few seats he might have fought. am i not right about that? well, about half done. they agreed, half a fight in the end. >> and there was a deal, very last minute deal whereby they agreed to stand down in those seats that were the threat was to conservatives and that to the conservatives and that probably meant that your son bofis probably meant that your son boris got, what, another 1520 seats than he would have got now if he hadn't stood at all, he would have had a majority of about 100. okay. >> so can we afford not to invite. >> well, i think from the point of view of conservative lives, i think i think it's a different situation now because after all, remember in 2019 when in the summer of the brexit party were aheadin summer of the brexit party were ahead in the polls around about june , just after the european june, just after the european elections , and theresa may had

elections, and theresa may had was in deep trouble and stood down. there was a period of about a month when they came top in six different opinion polls. things aren't like that now. and i all this stuff in the i think all this stuff in the daily express that that the sunday express that mark was talking about, that they you know, cost the know, they could cost the conservatives 35 seats. i think that's exaggerated in conservatives 35 seats. i think that local exaggerated in conservatives 35 seats. i think thatlocal electionsgerated in conservatives 35 seats. i think that local elections this:ed in conservatives 35 seats. i think that local elections this year, the local elections this year, the local elections this year, the reform party did really, really badly. and we always we often hear this story about, you know, well, will ukip, will the referendum party remember them back in 1997? stanley certainly will under jemmy goldsmith . in will underjemmy goldsmith. in the end, they probably cost john major 2 or 3 seats. >> will cost david miller his seat. >> yeah, well yes, that's probably the one of them. >> and goldsmith spent £32 million on that campaign my thought so a lot of this is exaggerated and i think i've got a thought here. >> i think this this evening's vote is actually quite significant. farage significant. had nigel farage come yes tonight , i come out top. yes tonight, i think there might have been a sense that if he rejoins us

reform or joins reform in reform orjoins reform in a substantive way, this could really have energised reform . really have energised reform. um, now i think there must be probably a slight sigh of relief that he wasn't top in downing street. >> perhaps. yes. i mean, he's president. the situation is he's president. the situation is he's president of reform, so he's a sort of honorary post it's sort of honorary post and it's taizu's the official leader. and of course, this is i mean, farage is you know, he's had he keeps retiring and then coming back. keeps retiring and then coming back . he's keeps retiring and then coming back. he's like, you keeps retiring and then coming back . he's like, you know, like back. he's like, you know, like frank but i what frank sinatra. but i think what will happen is that he will he will happen is that he will he will play a substantial role in the reform , um, campaign up to the reform, um, campaign up to the reform, um, campaign up to the election . and i think he the election. and i think he will join the conservative party afterwards after their eviscerated as the saviour. well that's what he will present himself. i mean, rishi sunak has said he would be welcome . even said he would be welcome. even tom tugendhat on the left , a one tom tugendhat on the left, a one nafion tom tugendhat on the left, a one nation conservative. i asked him a question at the at a fringe meeting at the conservative conference. welcome conference. would you welcome farage into your party or back into your party? because he was

a he was young a member when he was a young man. tugendhat. maybe. man. and tom tugendhat. maybe. maybe moment of panic said maybe in a moment of panic said yes and so i think i'm going to celebrate. and then i think he'll become an mp. >> going to celebrate third, >> i'm going to celebrate third, third position for nigel with a bottle bubbly. bottle of bubbly. >> want the pink or do >> do you want the pink or do you want the white? >> for pink. >> i'll go for the pink. >> i'll go for the pink. >> i'll go for the pink. >> i think so. >> i think so. >> it's the first time you've ever been a pink coat. >> yes, but anyway, on. >> yes, but anyway, carry on. carry on your point. carry on with your point. >> i prepare to get both >> whilst i prepare to get both of trollied. of you trollied. >> well, he will. >> well, i think he will. i think he'll become a conservative in fact, he tried believe it back 2004. farage believe it back in 2004. farage tried join the conservative tried to join the conservative party. stage he party. then and at that stage he was of the ukip group in was leader of the ukip group in the parliament. he had the european parliament. he had a with an mp a secret meeting with an mp called paul beresford and beresford nothing to beresford would have nothing to do wanted to be. do with this. he wanted to be. he wanted to be the candidate. if tunbridge wells, if i think for tunbridge wells, he was of course a member up until aboriginal mastery, wasn't he? >> 5 he? >> a member of the tory >> he was a member of the tory party was it 1992, party up until, was it 1992, although actually voted green party up until, was it 1992, alt one|h actually voted green party up until, was it 1992, alt one occasionjally voted green party up until, was it 1992, alt one occasion thoughted green party up until, was it 1992, alt one occasion though faragean party up until, was it 1992, alt one occasion though farage in on one occasion though farage in the 89 election he voted green because greens were because the greens were eurosceptic know

eurosceptic in those days. know my thought is this that the conservative party in 2019 did actually oh farage a pretty significant debt. you say we have won even without farage nonetheless, you say those 30 seats did contribute to. yeah. i have a feeling just that we didn't actually kind of give him the time of day after that. do you see? i mean, you would have thought that we owed him something. when i say we, i'm still counting myself as a conservative here. we owed him something and we didn't we didn't show up. well i think there were huge tensions as and, you know, there was there was it was a strange thing because there was a sort of a bit of a, you know, a rivalry between nigel farage and boris johnson . nigel farage and boris johnson. >> and there are similar people in many ways, hairstyles, different hairstyles are very different. and some of their politics is the same. some of it's different. i mean, it's very different. i mean, bofis it's very different. i mean, boris johnson is very keen on net zero. nigel farage isn't more socially liberal. perhaps yeah. yeah. and the and now

there's talk of a new alliance. bofis there's talk of a new alliance. boris johnson coming back as an mp. it seems to be i want to go to australia in just a second. >> we've also got mike reid and david van day waiting in the wings, but very briefly, do you think that boris could form some kind of alliance with nigel farage? is there enough space in one room for those two men? no i think that's too far fetched . think that's too far fetched. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> i mean, you know, boris quite well, don't you, stanley ? would. well, don't you, stanley? would. would go into some kind of would he go into some kind of political a dream political partnership, a dream ticket nigel? ticket with nigel? >> that's actually been speculated in the mail on sunday today. >> did you say a green ticket ? >> did you say a green ticket? >> did you say a green ticket? >> well, no. >> well, no. >> well, no. >> well, you'd that. dream. >> a dream. dream ticket. yes >> a dream. dream ticket. yes >> what do you think boris would do business with nigel? >> i'd imagine any scenario which didn't involve bob . boris, which didn't involve bob. boris, as you know , top of the pecking as you know, top of the pecking order, right . and farage in the order, right. and farage in the same party, that party being the conservative party. all right. do you see what i mean? >> well, look, we're going to

come back to this very interesting comments from stanley johnson, who knows the conservative party very well. >> thinks nigel >> he thinks that nigel could join become join the fold, become a conservative, and perhaps transform fortunes. transform their fortunes. michael not michael thinks possibly, but not until election. i'll until the next election. i'll get more analysis on that shortly, but let's now go straight australia and our straight to australia and our brilliant i'm a celebrity reporter, adam cherry, with a toughest gig in tv. look at that . you've topped up the tan . that . you've topped up the tan. that cherry has got browner by the day and adam what a result he came third. the boy done good. >> that's right, mark. he did come third. and in the last few minutes we've learned that sam thompson has been crowned the king of the jungle. so well done, sam. a valiant effort from nigel and our vote remain campaign. it turns out that vote remain is always destined to fail. ultimately, it seems, maybe we'll have a people's vote and we'll do it all over again. but for now, yeah. nigel third. tony baillieu second and sam thompson third gold medal. he's

king of the jungle in at first. yeah a really strong showing from nigel. came all the way to the end. final day, got five stars in his last challenge as well, laying in a coffin with all sorts of creepy crawlies and snakes and things dumped on him. so a strong effort. he'll be very happy with that and look very happy with that and look very as well have that very happy as well to have that australian wine and again this morning champagne as morning with some champagne as well. all bad here well. so it's not all bad here on coast, mark. on the gold coast, mark. >> well, listen, get yourself a glass of bubbly well, because glass of bubbly as well, because you've a brilliant job. glass of bubbly as well, because youadam a brilliant job. glass of bubbly as well, because youadam cherry illiant job. glass of bubbly as well, because youadam cherry reallyjob. glass of bubbly as well, because youadam cherry really enjoyed >> adam cherry really enjoyed your under. your reporting from down under. well ben leo as well, well done to ben leo as well, the other brilliant broadcaster here news who has been here at gb news who has been covering this story. we'll see you in office soon. let you back in the office soon. let me just tell you, it's raining in adam brace yourself. in london. adam brace yourself. bnng . bring a scarf. >> brilliant stuff. thank you, adam. and now joining us is nigel farage's business partner, john mappin, owner of camelot castle in cornwall, where they've been hosting viewing parties every night. >> john, are you celebrating ? >> john, are you celebrating? >> john, are you celebrating? >> well, we are celebrating .

>> well, we are celebrating. >> well, we are celebrating. >> i think nigel has done a remarkable job. and of course, i think the whole country has has has had the opportunity to really see who he who he is. >> and he's a wonderful, wonderful man, very kind and thoughtful soul. >> and i think also they've seen that he could well become the leader of this country. >> well, most definitely. >> well, most definitely. >> it's clearly going to help any political ambitions that he may have, you know, nigel. well what might be the circumstance , what might be the circumstance, liz, that would take nigel to number 10? would he do it within the conservative party as stanley johnson speculates ? stanley johnson speculates? >> well, i didn't go as far. well, he doesn't want him in number 10. >> he wants boris back in number 10. but he. but he thinks he would rejoin the tories. what do you nigel? going to you think, nigel? is going to do? you think he could or do? do you think he could or could he join the tories? >> he's always said to me that if the situation in the country got bad that his leadership got so bad that his leadership was something that was needed ,

was something that was needed, then he would consider it . was something that was needed, then he would consider it. i think it's up to the people of this country to decide whether or not the situation is dire . a or not the situation is dire. a number of people i've been talking to over the last week have certainly changed their minds in relation to nigel, and i think he's now appealing to a much, much broader audience once, um, and is has has found a whole new audience through this tv show. so let's see what happens. john brilliant to chat and enjoy the rest of tonight's party. >> john mappin there, owner of the gorgeous camelot castle in cornwall. nigel farage is business manager. so listen, folks, lots more to come. stanley johnson and nigel's unofficial biographer, michael crick, are staying with us on the sofa . but next up, we'll the sofa. but next up, we'll also be joined by 80s pop sensation and former miss liberty star david van day. plus radio and tv legend mike reid, who was also in the jungle all of that is .

next if you're just joining us, i'm a celebrity has concluded and nigel farage has placed third in tony bel—air. the boxer came second and sam am. i've written it down here. thompson sam thompson is a radio and tv star. came first. well done, sam, and well done. nigel, who got far further than people expected. well, let's get more reaction now from former stars of the jungle. i'm delighted to welcome p0p jungle. i'm delighted to welcome pop sensation david van day and legendary radio and tv broadcaster mike reid . shapps, broadcaster mike reid. shapps, great to see you, david van day. you remember your time in the jungle. what's your reaction to the news that nigel has won bronze as . the news that nigel has won bronze as. it's the news that nigel has won bronze as . it's fantastic news bronze as. it's fantastic news he cruised through it, really, and the amazing amount of pubuchy and the amazing amount of publicity he's brought to itv in

that show is phenomenal. >> and also for gb news as well. it's amazing. he was worth his weight in gold. i mean, he was just kept his temperament all the way through. as he said, he didn't really bring politics up. they used to bring the politics. i mean, where were they all remainers in that jungle? i mean, i don't see any of them. >> certainly had a couple of >> he certainly had a couple of arguments with 1 or 2, especially the frenchman, fred, syria the point is, syria. but the whole point is, david, that he sent fred syria packing and nella rose as well . packing and nella rose as well. all yes. >> yeah. i mean, it's a great feeling. i was a semi—finalist, so i came fourth. yeah and my last chap was zulu from star trek, who sort of just fits me to the third position. but it's a great feeling, especially when you see them go and you've had arguments with them and you think, i'm getting something right here. you know , you know right here. you know, you know they're going and the public are

keeping me in. so it is a it's a great thing. he'll be delighted . great thing. he'll be delighted. >> well , indeed, what >> i thought, well, indeed, what happens next? >> mike reid, you did brilliantly . the jungle as well. brilliantly. the jungle as well. well, nigel, i'll be nursing a cold beer now. will he be having a hot bath? what will be happening ? happening? >> i'm sure the cold beer will trump the hot bath as for sure. >> and several several cold beers, i would imagine . beers, i would imagine. >> a few champagnes. yeah. well, i was in charlie brocket was smuggled out of champagne in, so we were able to have a bit of a bit of champers though. >> it's interesting, you know, these days with social media, people think they know people well and they latch on to well and then they latch on to it . it. >> it's the you know, it's the old monster hill and the old monster on the hill and the crowd swells and the burning torches and word goes round. torches and the word goes round. the whispers, what's. the chinese whispers, what's. and there and they and they get there and they found quite found that actually it's quite a reasonable there reasonable bloke. there >> i think nigel has >> so yeah, i think nigel has acquitted himself very well . acquitted himself very well. >> interesting terms of >> interesting in terms of leadership, you were talking just now , i was having a long

just now, i was having a long chat with richard littlejohn last night and you know, i said it would be interesting to do a national poll to say, forget divisions, forget parties and all the rest of it. just take it on leadership qualities, because we all know that a leader, whether it's a cricket team, football team, military, we know a leader , we know who a leader a leader, we know who a leader is. you can elect people. yes, you know, but a leader pins the badge on themselves. it will be interesting to do a national poll to see who people wanted as leader of the country, irrespective of party. who would they pick ? who would you pick they pick? who would you pick for example, if you had to pick a leader now, we had to have a leader next week and someone in charge of our country who would you pick? i would pick kemi badenoch because i think she's authentic. >> she's a woman of conviction . >> she's a woman of conviction. and i think that she's got some backbone. however, i'm still backing rishi sunak, but then i specialise in unpopular opinions . so let's let's bring in, if i can, stanley johnson, who was

also a big star on i'm a celebrity and nigel's unofficial all unauthorised biographer , all unauthorised biographer, michael crick , and a michael crick, and a fascinating, tantalising idea that nigel might be welcomed back into the bosom of the conservative party. but what i want to ask you first, michael crick is do you think that nigel's appearance in the jungle this year has been good news for the image of brexit? it and those on the political right? >> i don't think it really makes any difference in terms of . the any difference in terms of. the that situation. >> but isn't it harder to sort of demonise nigel farage to demonise brexit or those on the right, given the fact that nigel's gone in there and he's been quite charming and he's been quite charming and he's been relatable from what been very relatable from what i gather, you know, there wasn't much politics and no, i don't think it makes any difference. >> i think i mean, i, you know, i think it's helped his his his standing. and he's, you know , standing. and he's, you know, nigel farage can explode with

temper. i've been the victim of it myself. he contained himself in that regard . so i think he's in that regard. so i think he's done himself, you did he go, oh, crikey, old what you old numpty? >> what did he say? oh, it was pretty unpleasant. >> i, i'd, i'd, i'd made a film saying that basically when he was he was a, he was was at school he was a, he was accused of being a neo—nazi by the teachers and he didn't like this at all. >> he was a well, i'm sure i've got most, most certain that that was not the case. >> you were going to chime in there, stanley. what do you think? >> i'm rather more machiavel euanne >> i'm rather more machiavel elianne on this one. i don't think my nigel doing well , doing think my nigel doing well, doing very well in the jungle was anything to do with brexit. in fact, i go so far as to say for me, getting nigel back in a place where he can be kept really busy and be really useful and utilised by the conservative party, by getting him back into parliament before the next election. i see this as actually a way of challenging this amazing energy he has into

something like let's have a proper relationship with europe. take the boat people for heaven's sake. that can't be solved unless you have a pan european deal on the boat. people, i'd like to see nigel actually say he's not. i'm eating my words, but i'm now going to in a statesman like way, say, yes, we are part of europe. i've done 19 years in the european parliament. i really know about it. and this is going to my new plan back is going to be my new plan back in the government. give him a job, minister. >> stanley , what you're >> so stanley, what you're suggesting is a safe suggesting perhaps is a safe seat or a place in the lords for nigel farage in the weeks ahead, you think that rishi sunak should be the first on the phone to nigel farage and bring him into the party, is that right? >> all right. 100. do think that ought to be, as i say, my little mental reserve is i won't see this man used in a sensible way. i think mike reid, by the way. hi, mike. very lovely to see you. hello. stanley green. mike said think of it just in terms of leadership qualities , i think of leadership qualities, i think you've still got to say where is

that leadership taking you? so for me, i'd have the proviso that nigel farage is going to be utilised and constrained and not going to carry the show. michael, a couple of seconds if you can. >> is there any chance that rishi sunak will pick up the phone to nigel farage in the hours ahead? phone to nigel farage in the h0li; ahead? phone to nigel farage in the h0li don't|d? phone to nigel farage in the h0li don't think so at all. it >> i don't think so at all. it would be an incredible gamble. it probably the it would probably lose the party, the conservative party votes, them. and the votes, not gain them. and the idea nigel negotiating idea of nigel farage negotiating with the europeans to sort out the crisis is not a the boats crisis is not a fantasy. i'm afraid. well, i don't know. >> stranger things have happened. >> but talking about his passion, mike reid , a quick word. >> david mentioned it, word. >> david mentioned it , that it's >> david mentioned it, that it's quite good news for gb news, isn't it? because frankly, he's our biggest star and many more people will check us out now . people will check us out now. >> yeah, that's true. but going back to that point , though, i back to that point, though, i agree with stanley, in fact, that you've use someone that you've got to use someone who's that passion, that who's got that passion, that commitment, drive . it's commitment, that drive. it's a waste not using it . as long as waste not using it. as long as he works as a team player, as we know, nigel sometimes might not

work as a team player because he's nigel. but if he can work as of the team, be as part of the team, he'd be phenomenally useful. >> mike sorry interrupt >> okay, mike sorry to interrupt you. day, you get the you. david van day, you get the last word. you think this last word. do you think this paves one for prime paves the way one day for prime minister nigel farage? >> well, you know what? in september , at the party september, at the party conference, he was welcomed like a hero. when he walked into the room at the conservative conference. i was told so , yeah, conference. i was told so, yeah, i think who knows ? stranger i think who knows? stranger things have happened , haven't they? >> most definitely. well, look, can i. thank you, david. thank you, mike. thank you, stanley. and thank you, michael, as well. loved your company. and thank you, michael, as well. loved your company . also special loved your company. also special thanks to my amazing team, dominique and the team for working so hard, putting on a lovely spread as well. but a busy weekend. greg as well. lottie and the gang. so thank you all. and let me tell you, i'm back on friday at eight. see you then. have a good week. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello

weather on. gb news. hello welcome to your latest gb news weather. >> i'm ellie glaisyer unsettled weather continues as low pressure remains very much in charge of our weather over the next couple of days. storm fergus situated out to the west, slowly moves its way towards us through sunday evening and into the start of monday, bringing with it some very heavy rainfall , particularly northern parts , particularly to northern parts of where the ground is of england where the ground is already very saturated . we already very saturated. so we could some localised could see some localised flooding the early hours flooding through the early hours of morning. strong of monday morning. some strong winds across winds too, particularly across western through the western wales and through the bristol where could bristol channel, where we could see to 60 miles an see gusts up to 60 miles an houn see gusts up to 60 miles an hour. temperatures in the south generally around 7 or 8 degrees, but colder across but a much colder night across northern scotland where northern parts of scotland where we see some icy conditions we could see some icy conditions , particularly the , particularly across the south—west through south—west of scotland through monday morning. a cloudy start across the northern half of the uk on monday. some showers continuing along those eastern coast of scotland, but generally monday will a much more monday will be a much more settled for most of us. settled day for most of us. plenty of sunshine as we head through and with

through the afternoon and with some winds, temperatures some lighter winds, temperatures around across around 10 to 12 degrees across the feeling a the south. it'll be feeling a little pleasant we've little more pleasant than we've seen over recent days. tuesday starts much cloudier picture, starts a much cloudier picture, though. rain continues to push its way northwards through tuesday morning, again bringing some very heavy rainfall to eastern parts of scotland where, again, we could see some localised due to that localised flooding due to that saturated further south, saturated ground. further south, obe, plenty of heavy showers pushing southwest pushing in from the southwest and blustery feeling. and quite a blustery feeling. day two remaining unsettled through tuesday and wednesday. but hints something a little but hints of something a little more settled are on the horizon through and friday. through thursday and friday. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on .

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