chamber put 13 holes in this. they say it's not going to do the job either. now, the next step is this could there be a commons rebellion tomorrow to soft for the tory right to hard for the tory wets.7 is sunak going to be sunk by rwanda? he's fresh out of the jungle, but not short of a word or two. listen to this is a total shambles. rudderless leaderless, utterly useless and headed for catastrophe at the next general election. apart from that, farage was full of praise for the conservative party. but people are saying, is it time for the king of the jungle to have a tory comeback and a golden ticket of farage? and bods golden ticket of farage? and boris can they save the beleaguered conservative party? and he probably fancied a day off from all of the nightmare about rwanda. covid inquiry today. rishi sunak was there facing questions about eat out to help out and also just like

prime minister boris johnson, former prime minister boris johnson, he couldn't find any of his old whatsapp messages . or do his old whatsapp messages. or do you believe him? all that coming up in the next hour. >> the same old fault lines of brexit have come back today around rwanda. >> the same conservative right wing tory hardliners won't stand for this bill looking like it's going to go to a humiliating vote down tomorrow . could that vote down tomorrow. could that do for sunak what brexit did for theresa may? all that coming up in the next hour. but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with tamsin roberts . headlines with tamsin roberts. martin thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. >> it's 3:02. the government's rwanda legislation provides a path , legal and incomplete path, legal and incomplete solution . according to the solution. according to the so—called star chamber of

lawyers, the european research group of conservative mps says the plan may be the toughest action yet, but it doesn't go far enough to stop the boats . far enough to stop the boats. mps are due to vote on the bill tomorrow , but erg chairman mark tomorrow, but erg chairman mark francois says a complete rewrite might be the only option. we all want to stop the boats . want to stop the boats. >> there have been two legislative attempts at this already. the nationalities and borders act that didn't quite work. the illegal immigration act that didn't quite work. so this is kind of three strikes and you're out, isn't it? so what is really important is if we're going to put a bill through parliament to have a piece of legislation which is fit for purpose , as the bill is fit for purpose, as the bill is currently drafted, it isn't . currently drafted, it isn't. >> the prime minister has defended his controversial eat out to help out scheme, saying it was just a micro policy in a larger reopening plan . he said larger reopening plan. he said the plan had been designed

specifically in the context, say safely lifting lockdown restrictions . earlier, rishi restrictions. earlier, rishi sunak began his evidence at the covid inquiry with an apology to those who'd lost loved ones . those who'd lost loved ones. however, he played down suggestions by hugo keith kc that severe inefficiencies in downing street had led to a chaotic style of governance. were you aware that his closest advisers had seemingly unanimously taken the view that there was a lack of efficiency ? there was a lack of efficiency? >> the administration is described privately as brutal and useless or criminally incomplete , urgent or incomplete, urgent or operationally chaotic . operationally chaotic. >> the fact that there was debate and that people were passionate about it and they had different points of view is, i think, a unsurprising thing. and be good because it would be worse if we were having this conversation and all the commentary was, well, there was no debate about any of this whatsoever. was all just whatsoever. it was all just signed off, straightforward . signed off, straightforward. someone put a piece of paper,

someone that someone checked, and that was the of i think the last we heard of it. i think that would actually far that would actually be far worse, quite frankly. so it's good debate about worse, quite frankly. so it's good things debate about worse, quite frankly. so it's good things . debate about these things. >> the prime minister has also blamed government borrowing dunng blamed government borrowing during lockdown for record high taxes , as he told the inquiry taxes, as he told the inquiry that the impact of having to pay it back only comes after everyone forgets why it was necessary. it comes as new data shows property taxes are among the highest across the developed world, with the office for budget responsibility signalling further hikes to come , parents further hikes to come, parents and teachers say the regulation of schools should be more transparent and less high stakes according to a new report. it found 42% of parents support more transparency in how ofsted judges schools with respondents also in favour of more frequent inspections. the report by policy consultancy public first comes after a coroner found that an ofsted inspection like contributed to the death of headteacher ruth perry . the

headteacher ruth perry. the united nations is experiencing one of its worst funding shortfalls in years after just over a third of its required aid budget was provided last year. huge sanitarian crises were estimated to cost around $57 billion over the last 12 months, as conflicts in gaza and ukraine worsened . however, after worsened. however, after receiving just a fraction of that amount, the un is now lowering its expectation for the year ahead , with today's appeal year ahead, with today's appeal for $46 billion. aid chiefs say it's difficult to decrease aid budgets amid intensifying global conflicts , while staying conflicts, while staying realistic about what's needed . realistic about what's needed. dengue fever could become a national domestic disease in england by 2060 because of climate change. british government health experts say warmer conditions are to blame for the spread of the asian tiger mosquito , also known for tiger mosquito, also known for its potential spread of the disease. the uk health security agency warns the mosquito could

become commonplace across england over the next 2 to 3 decades. officials say warmer weather brings a higher risk of disease and pandemics . and disease and pandemics. and campaigners are making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a road tunnel next to stonehenge . road tunnel next to stonehenge. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back . a £1.7 billion decision to back. a £1.7 billion scheme to describing it as vandals ism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 to speed up journeys in the south west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow . that's all from me for tomorrow. that's all from me for now. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . martin

back to. martin >> thank you very much , tamsin. >> thank you very much, tamsin. right. let's get cracking on tonight's show , we start with tonight's show, we start with yet another setback for rishi sunak and his hopes of sending migrants to rwanda . the migrants to rwanda. the influential european research group has said the plans to revive the scheme with emergency legislation do not go far enough. well, let's get straight now to our political editor , now to our political editor, chris devere group. chris, good afternoon to you. well, we called this on thursday on this show. we had our own lawyers look at rishi's v2. they said it didn't pass muster today , the didn't pass muster today, the star chamber agreed 13 limitations as chris it has to be said, this plan now looks very much dead in the water. well quite. >> i think the government's whip's team are worried about it. these are the guys who try and get laws through the house of commons. one mp told me the whips are wetting themselves . whips are wetting themselves. another said the problem is they lost . they lost this vote last lost. they lost this vote last week on the infected blood

scandal . that was the first scandal. that was the first defeat, i think, by this government since the since rishi sunak became prime minister. the word is that the mps are now stopped telling the whips the truth. so mps are doing they're saying one thing and doing something else. so there's a real concern amongst the whips that on these knife edge vote votes of which tomorrow looks like this second reading like one on this second reading of they of the rwanda bill, they might lose that will throw lose it and that will throw wednesday into chaos for the government . you could see labour government. you could see labour trying to call some kind of no confidence vote in the government . it could be a government. it could be a challenge to the pm's own leadership within the party within very within weeks. it is very, very febrile in parliament where i've been government's been now the government's fighting been now the government's fight have published their own they have published their own legal or a summary of legal advice or a summary of that now. only that right now. that only happens worried happens when they are worried about might go. very about how a vote might go. very rarely happens. happened the rarely happens. happened in the past iraq war, for past with the iraq war, for example. there . but to example. they said there. but to completely any court completely block any court challenge would be in breach of international law and damage the uk's role in judicial support of

liberty and justice. so clearly the government is very concerned. they're pushing out draft legal summaries of legal advice to back up the rwanda bill. but as you heard there from mark francois on the news and of course, we interviewed him for gb news just an hour ago, he very clear that the ago, he made very clear that the bill as produced est according to its own legal advice from its own lawyers on star chamber, which i have here, where he is saying very clearly that this bill will cut muster as bill will not cut muster as drafted. they say here, i think the most important part they're saying here that that the bill requires very significant amendments. some of which would potentially be outside the scope of the final bill of the bill. and the final bill would be very difficult. there is simply way the government is simply no way the government can bill what can do that. the bill is what the supports the bill is. the bill supports the bill is. the bill supports the agreed with rwanda. the treaty agreed with rwanda. they can't go than that. they can't go further than that. they can't go further than that. the options right now for the government tomorrow morning, tomorrow morning, the bill, tomorrow morning, pull the bill, don't have the vote, have the vote losing and have hell vote risk losing and have hell to pay . to pay. >> and there's also the other

dilemma , the rock and the whole dilemma, the rock and the whole place option. it's not just failing satisfy those on the failing to satisfy those on the conservative right of the party. chris, of course, the one nation conservatives, they're meeting later on this evening. are they to discuss it? and they think later on this evening. are they to ctoorss it? and they think later on this evening. are they to (too hardline?i they think it's too hardline? >> yeah, the problem the pm, i mean, i sort of talked to a very senior grandee who said who would be a party leader because on the one hand, mr sunak is watching the right they do watching the right what they do 6080 of those tory mps to worry about on the left of the left, there's a one nation caucus , 100 there's a one nation caucus, 100 or so tory mps . what do they or so tory mps. what do they want? if you go too far towards the right, take too hard a line with the echr the european judges who might torpedo an attempt to remove arrivals by small boats to rwanda, then you lose the left. the left say, well, i'm not going to back that. we'll abstain or vote against. so right down the middle, you're going to have this almost the this this kind of almost the wisdom required . wisdom of solomon is required. but by rishi sunak i mean, it's a very bad time when he's not

evenin a very bad time when he's not even in westminster today, he's stuck in a in dock in quotes stuck in a in the dock in quotes , giving evidence about his behaviour chancellor during , giving evidence about his behcovid chancellor during , giving evidence about his behcovid inquiry,|cellor during , giving evidence about his behcovid inquiry, whetherjring , giving evidence about his behcovid inquiry, whether orig the covid inquiry, whether or not his team have told him about what happened erg what happened with the erg at lunchtime, probably didn't. lunchtime, they probably didn't. in not distract him in order not to distract him because lots of lots of because his lots of lots of political risk about what is happening in paddington when he gives about his role as gives evidence about his role as chancellor, out to help out chancellor, eat out to help out how the scheme works. the government paid will not to be at work to save those companies . at work to save those companies. how that evidence goes is also a political risk. so everywhere he sees problems, can he find solutions? tomorrow morning he's having breakfast with the new conservative group of tory mps, around 20 of them. we hear in number 10 downing street. that's the beginning of an attempt to win them round . but just win them round. but just finally, the government finally, martin, the government needs majority in the needs a big majority in the commons to get this through. the lords, a small majority won't cut only big majority will cut it only big majority will force peers not to start amending and weakening this law as it goes through the lords. it's got to work . the first it's got to work. the first

planes are meant to take off in march, in may next year. >> okay, chris, thank you. an excellent summary, as ever. choppy waters ahead for the prime minister all of the following week . of course, we following week. of course, we will keep a close eye on that. and i'm joined now by rebecca butler , who's barrister. butler, who's a barrister. thanks joining us on the thanks for joining us on the show, rebecca. so here we are. we had a barrister of our own look at this plan last week. on thursday, stephen barrett concluded was a dead duck of concluded it was a dead duck of a of a bill. and here we are the start chamber have found 13 holes in it and declared it not fit for purpose . it seems this fit for purpose. it seems this bill is doomed. >> yeah, i think it is a triumph over of ambition over reality for rishi sunak here the predominant problem with this bill is the political problems that he faces because because he is trying to steer a course between the caucus of one nation tories who tend to sit in the

middle and to the erg or the more right wing suella braverman sort of edge of the party. >> and i'm afraid he cannot find a middle way because the erg , a middle way because the erg, the suella braverman, the robert jenrick side of the party are saying that any more messing around with this bill and you've watered it down to such an extent that it is ineffective and we're not going to be any further forward. if you do try and pass it in in the way that you're that you're asking, he's effectively without wishing to he's effectively effectively made this a vote of confidence in himself. i'm afraid. >> and rebecca, the point of any bill, irrespective of whether you agree with it or not, is whether it is fit for purpose or not. >> does it do what it says on the tin and what's abundantly clear and becoming more clear by the by the minute with rishi's v to for rwanda is that it doesn't do what it says on the tin and thatis do what it says on the tin and that is , you know, a decent

that is, you know, a decent competent human rights lawyer could easily find holes in it and contest the deportation of any of their clients , therefore any of their clients, therefore rendering the whole thing toothless from the outset . toothless from the outset. >> yeah, i don't think you even need to be a barely able human rights lawyer to find the loopholes in the bill and what rishi sunak needs to decide is, does he want a fully effective , does he want a fully effective, active piece of legislation to go through the house of commons and then have sufficient numbers behind it to convince the house of lords that he is able to overcome their objections and their amendment ? or is he overcome their objections and their amendment? or is he in that position ? or is he just that position? or is he just simply at a point of desperation now where any watered down bill is what he puts before parliament? his the whole issue here, the big issue is all around the human rights argument , because you've got the middle

of the ground tories saying our next election is fought in the middle. that's the central office position. and that means we have to maintain our adherence to the human rights act and the other side is saying, if you keep the human rights act effective in this piece of legislation , which they piece of legislation, which they have done , then it's not worth have done, then it's not worth the paper it's written on. i have to say, as a lawyer, i'm more inclined to go with the right wing argument here, which is that you've got to have an all or nothing position . all or nothing position. >> okay. >> okay. >> rebecca butler by the way, following brexit, that there is a great fear that this notion of breaking international law is something the tories are worried about. and i know stephen barrett talks about this a lot , barrett talks about this a lot, but actually in national law is not something special that you have to adhere to because you actually decide to adhere to international law or international law or international law or international law doesn't top down onto us. so we can disapply

international law, but they're too timid to do that. and that's where rishi sunak is at the moment. okay >> rebecca butler that's excellently summarised . i think excellently summarised. i think you're absolutely right. the law is there. there seems to be is there. there just seems to be a of purpose lack of a lack of purpose or a lack of ability or lack of choice to implement it. thank you very much for your input. now we spoke shadow spoke to labour's shadow minister without portfolio , nick minister without portfolio, nick thomas—symonds, before the european research group rejected the emergency legislation. thomas—symonds criticised the rwanda policy . rwanda policy. >> we won't be supporting the rwanda plan. we believe it is a an unworkable failing astronomically expensive scheme. so far the government has . spent so far the government has. spent £290 million and that at the moment has produced just travel to and from rwanda for three conservative home secretary eateries. and frankly, the government is just continuing to throw good money after bad on

this scheme when actually what they should be doing is the difficult pain staking work that's required to stop people crossing the channel in these very vulnerable small boats . very vulnerable small boats. >> he's got a point £290 million. >> not a single person deported yet to rwanda . now nigel farage yet to rwanda. now nigel farage is back in the real world after finishing third in. i'm a celebrity. and he gave a scathing verdict on the state of the conservative party when he spoke to gb news this morning . spoke to gb news this morning. >> i've almost a month been >> i've almost for a month been away from the for news what i can see. the so—called conservative government, i say so—called , because they're not so—called, because they're not in the least bit conservative, are in a state of total shambles . a rudderless, leaderless is utterly useless , headed for utterly useless, headed for catastrophe at the next election , deservedly so . and that's not , deservedly so. and that's not to say labour will be any more competent, but . but somehow to competent, but. but somehow to think that i'm going to walk out of a jungle after 23 nights and

announce a relaunch in british politics and frankly is for the birds is a lot has happened whilst you've been in there. >> suella braverman has been sacked. your old nemesis, lord cameron, has come into the fold. lord now foreign secretary . lord now foreign secretary. we've also had net migration at three quarters of a million. so. so much for you to digest there. but all the chatter and i'm getting the impression from what but all the chatter and i'm gettingjust impression from what but all the chatter and i'm gettingjust imprission from what but all the chatter and i'm gettingjust impris nonsense.nhat you've just said is nonsense. but the chatter is that you but all the chatter is that you and boris could some and boris could create some sort of pact to restore the chances of pact to restore the chances of the conservatives. now you and i have spoken about this in the past, and you felt quite wronged boris in the past wronged by boris in the past that reneged on a deal with that he reneged on a deal with you. that mean it's you. does that mean it's never going happen again ? going to happen again? >> never say never, never say neven >> never say never, never say never. i you know, i can't predict right now what will happen. predict right now what will happen . what i do think is that happen. what i do think is that our country is being appalled , our country is being appalled, led that there is no proper opposition party and that we're living through a population

crisis . and that really has crisis. and that really has little to do with the small boats offensive , though that is, boats offensive, though that is, it's due to the fact that over 17 million people voted for lower immigration, voted for more border controls. what they've got is a conservative party in hock to giant multinational businesses who want as much foreign labour as they possibly can. and if you want a gp appointment, you want to get a for house your kids, you want to drive anywhere without being stuck in a you know, on a terrible traffic jam . know, on a terrible traffic jam. you can frankly go to hell straight out the jungle and straight, the cat amongst the pigeons . pigeons. >> and nigel farage is out of the jungle presents his the jungle and he presents his show australia sophia show live from australia sophia at 7 pm. this evening, exclusively live of course, on gb news. and i'll bring you an extended interview with mr farage a little later this hour and ask the big question is it time for a farage comeback or a golden ticket? double act the

superheroes. nigel and boris, what do you reckon? let me know . what do you reckon? let me know. vaiews@gbnews.com and you can get more on nigel right now on our website at gbnews.com. you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you very much. now it's a really exciting day on gb news because we're launching the great british giveaway. you could win £10,000, brand new tech and shopping vouchers. and here's how you could make those prizes yours. >> this is your chance to win cash treats and tech in our very first great british giveaway . first great british giveaway. these are totally tax free. £10,000 cash up for grabs, cash , £10,000 cash up for grabs, cash, which would help make 2024 a whole lot better . we're also whole lot better. we're also going to send you shopping with £500 worth of vouchers to spend in the store of your choice . in the store of your choice. what would be on your shopping list if it's a new iphone? we've also got that covered, too, with the latest iphone 15 pro max, which you'll also receive for your chance to win the iphone,

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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news earlier with eamonn and isabel, i spent 23 nights in there and i loved every single minute of it. >> it's been the most unbelievable experience. nigel has been a revelation. >> i think all the way through this, and i think to get to third place was fantastic and he must have been thrilled. there >> people, controversial people to go in. >> so, i mean, they've had nigel farage they've had a hancock, you know, who's next? >> and if at some point when i've recovered from jungle there's a role for me to play, i would not rule it out. >> i did notice that both raj

and boris both said that wasn't going to happen. i think we can leave it there . leave it there. >> farage was leaving the door open. we to him just a few open. we spoke to him just a few moments laugh at your peril. >> breakfast with eamonn and isabel to thursday from 6 isabel monday to thursday from 6 am. a.m. >> welcome back. it's 326. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now, later this hour, i'll bring you an extended interview with nigel farage. he's been talking about the state of the conservative party, pact with party, a possible pact with bofis party, a possible pact with boris johnson and his naked bum being shown on television . now, being shown on television. now, it's fair to say rishi sunak has got a lot going on at the moment. not only is the prime minister battling to stop his party falling apart at the seams, he spent much of today giving evidence at the covid inquiry relatives who inquiry. relatives of people who died the pandemic were died during the pandemic were waiting sunak when he waiting for sunak when he arrived this morning. our reporter ray addison been reporter ray addison has been listened sunak giving listened to. sunak giving evidence day and he joins me evidence all day and he joins me now. ray rishi is probably quite

glad for a day off of the madness of politics. rwanda looks like it's dead in the water. he started the day with an apology kc. he couldn't seem to locate any of his whatsapps a bit like boris. and then he got a grilling on eat out help a grilling on eat out to help out what's the latest ? out what's the latest? >> yeah, i don't think this was the rescue that rishi sunak may have wanted or potentially needed and quite a defensive prime minister facing a grilling from the inquiry's lead counsel, hugo keefe, kc. of course , this hugo keefe, kc. of course, this was the focus this afternoon has been all about the prime minister's eat out to help out scheme , which was introduced by scheme, which was introduced by him when he was chancellor back in august of 2020. after that first lockdown. now although it was very popular at the time for understandable there understandable reasons, there are now significant concerns that it may have fuelled a spike in infections and subsequent early potentially deaths . now, early potentially deaths. now, of course, the kc was asking mr sunak why this idea was never put in front of the government's

chief medical officer, rishi sunak , saying that he never sunak, saying that he never believed that it was a risk. there was just just under a month between the idea being announced and the implementation of the eat out to help out scheme and the onus was on anyone who had concerns about the scheme to raise them and nobody did that. that's what he says. nobody did that. that's what he says . however, we do now know says. however, we do now know that at the time the chief medical officer, sir chris whitty, branded policy eat whitty, branded the policy eat out to help out the virus as rishi sunak was dubbed dr. death and hugo keefe was pointing out that former health secretary matt hancock says he personally contacted the treasury to his express his concerns . at the express his concerns. at the time, rishi denying ever being informed of those concerns. now of course, since the pandemic itself khalife, we know that there's been one scientific study which has found that those areas across the uk with a higher take up of the eat out to

help out scheme did see a small rise or a rise in the number of people testing positive and then that dropped off within a couple of of scheme ending of weeks of the scheme ending the significance of that is still very much in debate. it's only one study and rishi saying today in the inquiry that he did believe and he still does believe and he still does believe that it was the right thing to do. now, of course , thing to do. now, of course, he's saying that through the scheme he was able to help protect up to 2 million jobs and some of those people working in hospitality very vulnerable. hugo, keith, kc then putting back to mr sunak , he says, well, back to mr sunak, he says, well, if it was so good, so successful all why was this scheme not extend ed and mr sunak saying it was just designed to get a temporary response in one tetchy exchange, mr sunak was also pointing out that he believes there's been an over focus on there's been an over focus on the importance and the impact of this scheme within the inquiry and the kc saying it's for us to decide, it's for the inquiry to

decide, it's for the inquiry to decide what we focus on, not the prime minister >> okay. ray anderson excellent summary. and rishi might wish he could go back again tomorrow when he walks out to see the bedlam that is rwanda bill is creating now , there's lots more creating now, there's lots more still to come between now and 4 pm. and you don't want to miss our extended interview, of course, with captain nigel farage. but first, here's your latest news headlines with tamsin roberts . thanks martin. tamsin roberts. thanks martin. >> here are the headlines at 330. the government's rwanda legislation provides a partial and incomplete solution. according to the so—called star chamber of lawyers , mark chamber of lawyers, mark francois, chairman of the european research group of conservative mps, says a complete rewrite might be the only option to stop the boats . only option to stop the boats. however, illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says he's confident that the plan is legal and will work this is the toughest piece of legislation

that's ever been tabled before parliament. >> this is what we're determined to debate tomorrow. this is what we will debate tomorrow will we will debate tomorrow and will come in due coui'se. >> course. >> but i'm convinced because we've and convinced we've seen it and i'm convinced because the government's we've seen it and i'm convinced becaupositione government's we've seen it and i'm convinced becauposition that ernment's we've seen it and i'm convinced becauposition that we've nt's legal position that we've published afternoon, that published this afternoon, that this toughest piece of this is the toughest piece of legislation this does meet legislation that this does meet the of the supreme court. >> and we're going to have that robust debate tomorrow afternoon i >> -- >> the prime minister has defended his controversial eat out to help out scheme, saying it was just a micro policy in a larger reopening plan . he said larger reopening plan. he said it had been designed specifically in the context safely lifting lockdown restrictions earlier , rishi restrictions earlier, rishi sunak began his evidence at the covid inquiry with an apology to those who'd lost loved ones . those who'd lost loved ones. however, he played down suggestions that severe inefficiencies in downing street had led to a chaotic style of governance . campaigners are governance. campaigners are making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a road tunnel next to stonehenge. the save stonehenge

world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, described dubbing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 , i.e. to speed up journeys in the south—west of england. a heanng the south—west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow . so those are the court tomorrow. so those are the headlines. you can, of course get more on all of those stories. just visit our website gbnews.com . for stunning gold gbnews.com. for stunning gold and silver coins. >> you'll always value. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . well, news financial report. well, here's a quick snapshot of today's markets . today's markets. >> the pound will buy you 1.257, $6, a ,1.169. the price of gold is £1,580 and £0.35 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is . at 7549

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news britain's news channel. welcome back. 337 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now stay tuned because in a couple of minutes i'll bring you that extended interview nigel extended interview with nigel farage and it's a corker, but it's a significant day in the battle to restore power sharing in northern ireland. the northern ireland secretary, chris heaton—harris has been holding talks with political peers . i'm holding talks with political peers. i'm joined now by gb news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie dougie beattie. what's the latest . the latest. >> well, this all started off this morning, of course, with chris heaton—harris holding a very brief press conference where he made a quick statement. and basically what he has said is this morning he has spent the time with the head of civil service in northern ireland, and it's about financial it's all about a financial package. but course, the package. but of course, the parties here northern parties here in northern ireland have for since have been battling for since about 2010 because of barnett

consequentials northern ireland gets less per head on the ideas of need rather than barnett consequential formula that was contested by the welsh assembly back in 2010. and they got that changed to run alongside. so they would have a fiscal floor. so as they could pay their pubuc so as they could pay their public services and so forth, the right money in order to keep the right money in order to keep the running. well, this the country running. well, this morning those talks have begun and parties were in there. and all parties were in there. so this minute, they're not so at this minute, they're not really the really talking about the protocol. really protocol. they're not really talking about the framework. and you maybe a deal you could say that maybe a deal is if they've got is very close if they've got down nitty gritty of down to the nitty gritty of talking financial talking about a financial package. but of course, all parties here and this the parties here and this is the irony of it all, is that they are all looking for that financial package that will be a lasting financial package, a formula that makes sure that that fiscal floor is in place. so even if they had have went back into government 21 months ago, what they're really saying is, well, they couldn't have afforded to pay the public sector workers any more money because that fiscal floor wasn't

there. so the point that the dup and the unionist parties have been saying through the last 21 months has brought us to this place in these talks . and it may place in these talks. and it may look as if that deal may be very, very near indeed, because they're now talking about that fiscal floor being put into place in order that public sector workers can go back. so you can imagine if you were a minister, say, for health in the northern ireland executive , even northern ireland executive, even if back tomorrow and if you went back tomorrow and that wasn't in place, it would make no difference to the budget of northern ireland of of northern ireland because of course wouldn't course the money wouldn't be there. this there. and you have this position where right over my shoulder here on one side, you have press conferences taking place parties as they place with the parties as they come out of those talks. and on the other side, we have the unions, health unions and teachers so striking and teachers unions. so striking and protesting, for more protesting, asking for more money. so it's these talks will be due to go on until about wednesday. and there they were round table talks today. but they're very much separated in they're very much separated in the next couple of days. it

really is now up to jeffrey donaldson. if he has a deal to start telling us what that deal is and to try and bring his party together and bring it in as one to sell the deal to the unionist population . unionist population. >> and draghi, of course, northern ireland has a burgeoning public health workforce. are we expecting the unions to be rattling their sabres and trying to drive a harder and harder bargains and more and more money? well that is the point. >> if there's more money comes here, and particularly if it's a one off payment, that'll be that will be the real thing about it, because there's an because of course, if there's an underspend, treasury brings because of course, if there's an urback, end, treasury brings because of course, if there's an urback, end, into reasury brings because of course, if there's an urback,end, into central brings it back, back into central government. so they will be looking for a bigger payout. government. so they will be looking for a bigger payout . and looking for a bigger payout. and if it's only a one off payment that chris heaton—harris is actually putting place actually putting into place here, that will be hard to do because year because of course, the next year after will to see after that you will have to see where that money where you will get that money from middle of all from. and in the middle of all that, with the dup, you have this rwanda deal that is coming in. of course, no other in. and of course, no other ireland through the framework

document border document is not allowed a border in ireland. in the island of ireland. of course, the republic course, we border the republic of ireland that has an open borders policy with immigration. so even if they stop the boats coming in one door, the back door wide open into the uk door is wide open into the uk because of course a lot of those and happening and it's already been happening are across the border and are coming across the border and into uk through the into the uk and through the common area are entitled common travel area are entitled to inside the uk once to travel inside the uk once they're there and you could end up with a ridiculous situation where you have british citizens living in this part of the uk having to through passport having to go through passport controls to get into the uk . controls to get into the uk. >> okay dougie beattie thank you for that comprehensive update. always a pleasure to have on always a pleasure to have you on the superb now, as the show. superb now, as promised to extended promised to our extended interview with our very own nigel farage. and don't forget , nigel farage. and don't forget, his down under his first show from down under is due at 7 he's fresh out is due at 7 pm. he's fresh out the jungle and he's raring to go. exclusive live on gb news. of course . and in this interview of course. and in this interview earlier on today. now, i've just been talking about state been talking about the state of the conservative party, a possible boris johnson possible pact with boris johnson , of course, and his naked bum

being shown on television . he being shown on television. he spoke to eamonn holmes and isabel webster this morning on gb news breakfast feeling. >> are you washed ? are you fed? >> are you washed? are you fed? are you watered ? are you watered? >> it's very clean . well yeah. >> it's very clean. well yeah. >> it's very clean. well yeah. >> it's very clean. well yeah. >> i mean, i've had a wash and a shave and i've put some normal clothes on and i'm already beginning to miss the sounds of the jungle, the crickets, the kookaburra , the cuckoos, the kookaburra, the cuckoos, the owls , the howls of creatures owls, the howls of creatures we've never heard from. to be honest , it. i we've never heard from. to be honest, it. i spent 23 nights in there and i loved every single minute of it. it's been the most unbelievable experience . and i unbelievable experience. and i would not, for one moment say that i regret a single moment of it. great to be out, but i really had a fantastic time . really had a fantastic time. >> we spoke to biggins a few moments ago who said, for politicians, it's really, really hard, if not impossible, to win. so coming third probably the so coming third is probably the best any politician really could for . hope do best any politician really could for. hope do you feel disappointed you feel like disappointed or do you feel like

third actually you know, third is actually you know, quite achievement . quite an achievement. >> do you know what i mean? look, if you said to me before this started that i'd make the final i'd go for the final bushtucker trial. i'd be buried underground with 20 snakes, all over me that i come outwith. i hope some degree of dignity . and hope some degree of dignity. and come third, i'd have bitten your arm off. so i'm delighted with the way that it turned out, thrilled that i got through to the last round, and i was the outsider, you know, the other 11 people that went in there were either professional sportsmen or people from pop music or popular culture. i was the only one from the other side of the line that came from politics and current affairs. i think to get through and come third, i think for me it's been a real, real achievement. i am thrilled with it, delighted and want to thank everybody, particularly gb news, who i know, and i've learnt now backed me all the way . so thank backed me all the way. so thank you everybody that supported me, that voted for me. i'm very,

very grateful , very flattered very grateful, very flattered and very honoured . and very honoured. >> well, how are you going to consolidate that goodwill and turn it into two votes as . hahaha. >> oh eamonn, you never give up do you ? the first thing i'm do you? the first thing i'm going to do is go out for dinner because i'm starving . because i'm starving. >> have you lost weight living on rice and beans for a couple of weeks? >> so i'm going to go out for dinner. and as for where life goes from here, i don't know. i mean, i've almost for a month been away from the news. from what i can see, the so—called conservative lviv government. i say so—called, because they're not in the least bit conservative, are in a state of total shambles , rudderless, total shambles, rudderless, leaderless . it's utterly useless leaderless. it's utterly useless , headed for catastrophe at the next election , deservedly so . next election, deservedly so. and that's not to say labour

will be any more competent, but . will be any more competent, but. but somehow to think that i'm going to walk out of a jungle after 23 nights and announce a relaunch in british politics and frankly is for the birds, it's a lot has happened whilst you've beenin lot has happened whilst you've been in there. >> suella braverman has been sacked. your old nemesis, lord cameron, come into the fold. cameron, has come into the fold. lord, now foreign secretary, we've also had net migration at three quarters of a million. so, so much for you to digest there. but all the chatter and i'm getting the impression from what you've nonsense. you've just said is nonsense. but is that you but all the chatter is that you and could create some sort and boris could create some sort of pact to restore the chances of pact to restore the chances of the conservatives. now, you and i have spoken about this in the past and you felt quite wronged by boris in the past that he reneged on a deal with you. never you. does that mean it's never going again ? going to happen again? >> never say never , never say >> never say never, never say never. i you know, i can't predict right now what will happen. what i do think is that our country is being appallingly

led, that there is no proper opposition party and that we're living through a population crisis and that really has little to do with the small boats offensive, though that is , boats offensive, though that is, it's due to the fact that over 17 million people voted for lower immigration, voted for more border controls. what they've got is a conservative party in hock to giant multinational businesses who want as much foreign labour as they possibly can. and if you want a gp appointment, you want to get a house for your kids, you want to drive anywhere without being stuck in a you know, on a terrible traffic jam . know, on a terrible traffic jam. you can frankly go to hell . i you can frankly go to hell. i don't believe that any government , any political class government, any political class in westminster has ever been more detached from ordinary folk. we are living through a population crisis on a level that nobody could ever, ever anticipate and immigrate . anticipate and immigrate. fashion and numbers in britain

is going to become the dominant issue at the next election and for years to come. and if at some point what i've recovered from a jungle, there's a role for me to play , i would not rule for me to play, i would not rule it out . it out. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> some people call it the dream ticket . i'm not ruling it out. ticket. i'm not ruling it out. >> if he didn't rule it out and say he became prime minister for he would be the only prime minister we've had that whose bum we seen and the thing bum we have seen and the thing is, we've talked about your bottom a lot over the last few weeks. >> nigel, really sorry to >> nigel, i'm really sorry to break this to you. and we have had we've we've done a thorough analysis can't look you >> isabel can't even look at you because than she because she's seen more than she should . it's sort should have seen. but it's sort of eroticism, i think, with her. but a lot of people just make me blush . blush. >> how would you describe nigel bottom? >> very good. bottom. very impressed . impressed. >> bottom. it was the tight >> yes. bottom. it was the tight green lycra, hot . green lycra, hot. >> oh, don't like your hot pants. but anyway, we digress. listen we saw a personal side to you. i'm not talking about your private but we saw your

private parts, but we saw your daughter. we saw your partner. this that we're this isn't something that we're used of nigel farage. used to seeing. of nigel farage. was part of the was that part of the calculation? a nervous calculation? was it a nervous step for you to do that? because i know in the public eye that always exposes your then always exposes your family then to well . to something different as well. i well, i to something different as well. iwell, i never to something different as well. i well, i never i never, ever want my family to be exposed to anything. >> but of course, it's unavoidable with a show of this size. but i mean, you know, two points to make. one, i have been the most demonised person in modern british public life . you modern british public life. you know, ten years ago there wasn't a single national newspaper , no a single national newspaper, no significant business figure , significant business figure, trade union figure, supported my views at all. i was the absolute fringe of the fringe. and yet what i stood for became a majority vote in the referendum . majority vote in the referendum. i wanted to show people that i'm not a monster. you can disagree with me. you can argue with me . with me. you can argue with me. but i have every right to express my views, just as you do to and what i fought in the jungle on issues with fred and nella and others , we finished up nella and others, we finished up respecting the fact each other

have points of view. after all those that went before us fought wars. for us to have that freedom . and the second point is freedom. and the second point is about my bare backside, which apparently i've learned has become a story i was told that i shouldn't be naked, and yet the doctor said personal hygiene really matters in the jungle. checking yourself for horrors like leeches matter . well, how like leeches matter. well, how could you do that unless you were naked? so i ignored what they said and. and i continued to shower naked every day. interestingly i see many other campmates did the same, only i got the publicity. but you know something ? i couldn't care less . something? i couldn't care less. >> oh, so. so. so. nigel farage of course, is out of the jungle annual presents his show live from australia for at 7 pm. this evening. exclusively live on gb news. and as you can see there, he's in the form of his life. i think he looks great. he admitted he lost weight in

there. he got healthy, less booze, probably less ciggies, less rich food than normal. no news cycle. he had an effective break from the news cycle just to get his head around where he was. but all this stuff that he teases out there could he join forces with boris conservative party website , the news outlets, party website, the news outlets, the newspapers that support the tories, the comment section are ablaze with these rumours today. they really , really want nigel they really, really want nigel to step back into the fray. what do you think? could he be the answer to the tories woes and heaven knows there are enough of them at at the moment. okay there's just two weeks to go now until christmas day and people all over the uk will be fully in the swing of putting up their decorations . but one the swing of putting up their decorations. but one man in blackpool is taking things a step further, all to raise money for in memory of for cancer research in memory of his friend north—west of england. reporter sophie reaper has more on this story. >> the world famous blackpool

illuminations is lighting up this seaside town as part of their christmas festivities . and their christmas festivities. and yet just a four minute walk away from this iconic attraction, one local has begun his own smaller version of this blackpool tradition. >> it's strange, really, because so many people stop me every time i go out of the house or coming in and telling me how such a little display seems to have so much effect on them . have so much effect on them. >> when i was a kid, you never really had this. people used to pay really had this. people used to pay to go to grottos and some families, they can't afford to go to grottos and take their children, especially with the price increases things price increases of things now. so i thought, let's just do something special . so so i thought, let's just do something special. so in a fantasy you know, to the fantasy world, you know, to the kids, this is actually father christmas, his house. >> but aside from bringing some festive joy to his local community, michael also has a very special reason for decorating his house. >> after losing his friend

christine this year, he's fundraising for cancer research in her memory. >> she always knows me. i always go one step further , whatever go one step further, whatever i do . and i think she will find do. and i think she will find this absolutely amazing . i have this absolutely amazing. i have like a gold photograph on my tree of her. and it's going to stay there every christmas because she was a beautiful person and she left a young family and she didn't want to go i >> -- >> all of the money michael raises will be donated to cancer research to help them try and find a cure for a disease that in some way affects us all. >> people like michael are absolutely vital to cancer research. >> uk . >> uk. >> uk. >> it's the way that he fund raises and hundreds of people around the country do similar events, particularly in the run up to christmas that funds amazing research at this very busy, expensive time of year. please consider making that donation because it's all of

those little donations added together which make the pot of money, which makes such a huge difference in the fight against cancer crowds gather and people stop and stare when they see michael's own take on the blackpool illuminate sessions. >> and as christmas fast approaches, it's clear that this home is good to glow. sophie reaper. home is good to glow. sophie reaper . gb home is good to glow. sophie reaper. gb news two weeks home is good to glow. sophie reaper . gb news two weeks away. reaper. gb news two weeks away. >> christmas day weathered all that time go well. if anyone would like to see michael's wonderful display , you can find wonderful display, you can find him warbreck drive in him on warbreck drive in blackpool and you can't miss it. okay. there's been another blow to rishi sunak. hope of reviving the rwanda plan at the moment. he'll be seeing out his final session at the covid inquiry when he checks his phone , he when he checks his phone, he might want to go back in. his lawyers have pulled it apart on the erg side. it looks like it's deadin the erg side. it looks like it's dead in the water. and tonight, the one nation conservatives meet in about hours time and meet in about two hours time and they won't it either. they won't like it either. european group says the european research group says the

government the bill government should pull the bill looking for a huge showdown in the commons this week. martin daubney on gb news. and this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news after a fine monday for most of us, we're back to some heavy downpours tomorrow and some gusty winds also starting to head into northern ireland through this evening . ahead of through this evening. ahead of that, we've had a few showers today eastern scotland. today over eastern scotland. they'll for they'll keep going, but for many, evening here many, it's a fine evening here comes the rain, though, could cause some problems in northern comes the rain, though, could cause sase problems in northern comes the rain, though, could cause sas itproblems in northern comes the rain, though, could cause sas it lingers|s in northern comes the rain, though, could cause sas it lingers for1 northern comes the rain, though, could cause sas it lingers for most hern ireland as it lingers for most of the potential for of the night. potential for a bit . so have bit of flooding. so we do have a met office yellow warning in place. will move place. the rain will move through england, wales through across england, wales and southern scotland . a and into southern scotland. a mild night tonight in the south, but pretty chilly across northern . touch of northern scotland. touch of frost about possible that

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gb news way. good afternoon. >> it's 4:00. i'm martin daubney this is gp news keeping you company for the next two hours. got an action packed show coming up the next hour . up including in the next hour. here we go again. rishi sunak rawang ada setback. we called it right on this show on thursday . right on this show on thursday. we said this bill would not pass muster. and today the star chamber of conservative right

wing lawyers agreed . they found wing lawyers agreed. they found 13 fatal flaws in that plan. and this means surely we are heading for a dramatic commons rebellion. could rwanda sink sunak next? he's out of the jungle and talking strong words and everyone's excited about the fact there's a hint of a nigel comeback. could there be a dream ticket duo , a double act of ticket duo, a double act of superheroes ? nigel and boris superheroes? nigel and boris johnson on gb news today. nigel farage said he would not rule it out. is that it? the answer to save the beleaguered conservative party talking of which today rishi sunak said sorry at the covid inquiry. he's still there now he might want to go back in when he checks his messages from today. having said that, he also claimed to have lost all of his whatsapp messages, just like boris johnson . convenient, isn't it? johnson. convenient, isn't it? all that in the next hour . so

all that in the next hour. so what do you think? does nigel have one more hurrah in him? one more comeback? could he team up with bowser and save the tories? they seem to be heading for oblivion at the moment, but it is. nigel the answer ? or should is. nigel the answer? or should the tories just go and await their own grim fate ? let me know their own grim fate? let me know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com loads coming up in the next hour. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst. martin thank you and good afternoon to you. >> will the top story from the newsroom is that the government's rwanda legislation provides a partial and incomplete solution. that's according to the so—called star chamber of lawyers. mark francois, chairman of the european research group of conservative mps, says a complete rewrite might now be

the only option to stop the boats. >> we all want to stop the boats i >> -- >> there have been two legislative attempts at this already the nationalities and borders act that didn't quite work. the illegal immigration act that didn't quite work . so act that didn't quite work. so this is kind of three strikes and you're out, isn't it? so what is really important is if we're going to put a bill through parliament to have a piece of legislation which is fit for purpose as the bill is currently drafted , it isn't . currently drafted, it isn't. >> meanwhile, the minister for illegal immigration action, michael tomlinson, says he's confident the plan is legal and will work this is the toughest piece of legislation that's ever been tabled before parliament. >> this is what we're determined to debate tomorrow. >> this is what we're determined to (this:e tomorrow. >> this is what we're determined to (this:e �*what row. >> this is what we're determined to (this:e �*what we. >> this is what we're determined to (this:e �*what we will debate >> this is what we will debate tomorrow and we'll come to amendments but amendments in due course. but i'm because we've seen i'm convinced because we've seen it i'm convinced because of it and i'm convinced because of the position the government's legal position that we've published this afternoon, that the afternoon, that this is the toughest piece of legislation that this does meet the concerns

of the supreme court. and we're going to that robust bait going to have that robust bait tomorrow anneliese tomorrow afternoon anneliese from the covid inquiry now and the minister has been busy the prime minister has been busy defending controversial eat defending his controversial eat out to help out scheme , saying out to help out scheme, saying it was just a micro policy in a larger reopening plan. >> he said it had been designed specifically in the context of safely lifting lockdown restrictions earlier , rishi restrictions earlier, rishi sunak began his evidence at the inquiry with an apology to those who'd lost their loved ones . who'd lost their loved ones. >> however, he played down suggestions by hugo keith, kc that severe inefficiencies in downing street had to led a chaotic style of governance . yes. >> were you aware that his closest advisers had seemingly unanimously taken the view that there was a lack of efficiency ? there was a lack of efficiency? the administration has described privately as brutal and useless or criminally incompetent or

operationally chaotic ? operationally chaotic? >> the fact that there was debate and that people were passionate about it and they had different points of view is, i think, a unsurprising and be good because it would be worse if we were having this conversation and all the commentary was, well, there was no debate about any of this whatsoever, where it was all just signed off straightforward. someone piece of paper, someone put a piece of paper, someone and was someone checked, and that was the think the last we heard of it. i think that actually far that would actually be far worse, frankly. so it's worse, quite frankly. so it's good there debate good that there was debate about these things . these things. >> minister has also >> the prime minister has also blamed government borrowing dunng blamed government borrowing during lockdown for record high taxes. he told the inquiry the economic impact of paying it backis economic impact of paying it back is only now being felt by taxpayers. it comes as new data shows property taxes are among the highest across the developed world, with the office for budget responsibility signalling further hikes to come . in now, further hikes to come. in now, two royal navy mine hunter ships will be transferred to ukraine as part of efforts to bolster

the country's capability at sea. the ministry of defence says the uk's leading the way with a new maritime coalition alongside norway aimed at increasing support for the eastern european nafion support for the eastern european nation . it'll deliver long term nation. it'll deliver long term support, including training equipment and infrastructure, to boost security in the black sea. the defence secretary saying it sends a critical message to president putin, even if the kremlin does not believes we're distracted by events in the middle east, he is mistaken. >> this moment is a wake up call to the west, a moment once again to the west, a moment once again to renew our complete and utter resolve and prove putin wrong . resolve and prove putin wrong. >> grant shapps. now parents and teachers say the inspections of schools should be more transparent and less high stakes, according to a new report out, it found 42% of parents supported the idea of greater transparency in how ofsted judges schools, with respondents also in favour of

more frequent inspections. the report by policy consultancy pubuc report by policy consultancy public first comes after a coroner found that an ofsted inspection likely contributed to the death of headteacher ruth perry . dengue fever could become perry. dengue fever could become a national domestic disease in england by 2060 because of climate change. government health experts say warmer conditions are to blame for the spread of the asian tiger mosquito type, known for its potential to spread the disease. the uk health security agency warns the mosquito could become commonplace across england over the next 2 or 3 decades. officials say warmer weather bnngs officials say warmer weather brings a higher risk of disease and the chance of pandemics and campaigners are making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a road tunnel next to stonehenge in wiltshire . the save in wiltshire. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the

government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 to speed up journeys in the south—west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow . that's the news from tomorrow. that's the news from gb news across the uk on tv , in gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel all . thank you, polly. >> now we start with yet another huge setback for rishi sunak and his hopes of sending migrants to rwanda . the influential european rwanda. the influential european research group has said the plans to revive the scheme with emergency legislation do not go far enough. well let's go straight now to our political edhon straight now to our political editor, christopher hope. chris as we feared this would be the next result. we called it last week on this show , it simply week on this show, it simply doesn't pass muster as a

watertight piece of legislation, too many loopholes for the human rights lawyers to go out . and in rights lawyers to go out. and in accordance with that, the star chamber came out today, 13 problems they've eviscerated it. this bill looks dead in the water. chris so any nervousness overin water. chris so any nervousness over in the house of commons behind me? >> it might go back to the beginning of the problem, which was when the pm, rishi sunak , was when the pm, rishi sunak, said he would stop the boats. now meant he would have to now that meant he would have to take the european convention take on the european convention or european court in or the european court in strasbourg, he hasn't gone strasbourg, and he hasn't gone as far as he could have done maybe to do that. he went with aninch maybe to do that. he went with an inch of collapsing the whole deal because rwanda would have walked . he told that walked away. he told us in that press conference thursday . press conference last thursday. we lunchtime, didn't we, we heard lunchtime, didn't we, how research group how the european research group of plus four others, of tory mps plus four others, have a got together. some have hired a got together. some start, some lawyers they call the star chamber. they've reviewed found the reviewed it. they found that the bill drafted , needs to be bill as drafted, needs to be pulled as things stand, pulled because as things stand, it can't even be amended enough

to avoid changing its to work to avoid changing its character. since then, the government has come on a fight back. they published their own legal advice. the advice they pubushis legal advice. the advice they publish is very, very clear. they're that they're saying that the measures, including in this bill, the illegal bill, also with the illegal migration act, will preclude almost all grounds for individual challenges to produce, suspend or frustrate removals that can work. they say . there's also a document circulating in with help from government circles, from the society of government lawyers. this is by some independent lawyers for them . they're saying lawyers for them. they're saying that this bill is the best approach to resolving the tension between complying with international law and ensuring the operation of the treaty . so the operation of the treaty. so they're pm and they're supporting the pm and saying what you've got here is the best you're going to get. now, mps have got choice. the best you're going to get. now,do mps have got choice. the best you're going to get. now,do they’s have got choice. the best you're going to get. now,do they tryiave got choice. the best you're going to get. now,do they try and got choice. the best you're going to get. now,do they try and throwchoice. now do they try and throw a spanner into the works, get the government to pull tomorrow's vote, have do vote, which they may have to do now, perhaps go ahead, fight now, or perhaps go ahead, fight it, it , because if they it, lose it, because if they lose this this rwanda plan, they've got nothing to offer beyond what labour so beyond what labour have. so there's challenge here there's a real challenge here

for for the tory mps. there's a real challenge here for for the tory mps . will for the for the tory mps. will they allow the idea of a perfect bill? that will definitely work, but the enemy of one which might work and that's the challenge they've got right now and chris, it feels in so many ways like brexit, all over again, isn't it? >> it's like here we go. the bill is not quite sufficient. it doesn't really please anybody on the remain side in the same way this doesn't please anybody this bill doesn't please anybody who human rights of who puts the human rights of people who come britain ahead people who come to britain ahead of of people of the human rights of people who britain and who are born in britain and we're expecting another rebellion , are we not, just from rebellion, are we not, just from the tory right. who have already made made it plain what they think, the think, but from the from the conservative party, liberal side , from the one nations who are meeting this evening. and they don't like it either. chris >> that's right. the balance of the sunak is treading and of course it's still give evidence to covid on his way to the covid inquiry on his way back in the car, though, he'll be his team saying back in the car, though, he'll be on his team saying back in the car, though, he'll be on earth his team saying back in the car, though, he'll be on earth happened saying back in the car, though, he'll be on earth happened today? what on earth happened today? because not told because he may not been told about have wanted about it. they may have wanted to him on what's

to catch him focussed on what's happening the happening in paddington at the covid at covid inquiry. but tonight at 6:00 another meeting of 6:00 there's another meeting of the wingers with the right wingers meeting with the right wingers meeting with the sense group the common sense group of tory mps out what to do next. mps working out what to do next. they'll meet again tomorrow ahead vote at 7 pm. ahead of the vote at 7 pm. tomorrow sunak has got tomorrow night. sunak has got a breakfast with the new conservative group. another bunch of right wingers, but many elected in 2019. separate all elected in 2019. separate to all that left of the party, that on the left of the party, there's one nation caucus. there's the one nation caucus. martin they're meeting at 6:00. what they decide to do? what will they decide to do? will they decide that going any further the right, further towards the right, towards disapplying, any any further elements of human rights laws will be too much for them and they might withdraw support. so you only need 50 or 60 or so people to abstain in the vote tomorrow night. for the government to lose, you need 26, 28 or 29. sorry forgive me, tory mp to vote against. to vote against. for them to lose it is all up for grabs. it does feel very much like the brexit battles in the late 2018. don't forget theresa may pulled that first meaningful vote on the brexit deal, didn't she? around

the same time, this same time in 2018? that's five years ago. thatis 2018? that's five years ago. that is not beyond the realms that tomorrow morning the government do the same. they pull the vote because they haven't got the numbers and then i can't see how this get i can't see how this will get through because house through because the house of lords that recognise lords will see that recognise there's a challenge from the commons and probably try and amend it to within a day of its life. i think there's a real, a real issue here for the tories. do they want to stay united or risk election? that's risk an election? that's the challenge for the party tonight. okay christopher hope, thank you for update. okay christopher hope, thank you for and update. okay christopher hope, thank you for and i pdate. okay christopher hope, thank you for and i hearz. okay christopher hope, thank you for and i hear what you're >> and i hear what you're saying. think rishi saying. i think rishi sunak would to the would rather go back to the covid tomorrow, perhaps covid inquiry tomorrow, perhaps the first witness there who the first ever witness there who would go and face would roll the go back and face that than face this that music than face this calamity going on around calamity that's going on around his absolute bedlam in his ears. absolute bedlam in downing street. now, nigel farage is back in the real world after finishing third in i'm a celebrity and he gave a scathing verdict of the state of the conservative party when he spoke to gb news earlier this morning . to gb news earlier this morning. >> almost for a month , been away >> almost for a month, been away

from the for news what i can see. the so—called conservative government, i say so—called because they're not in the least bit conservative, are in a state of total shambles , rudderless, of total shambles, rudderless, leaderless . it's utterly useless leaderless. it's utterly useless , headed for catastrophe at the next election , deservedly so . next election, deservedly so. and that's not to say labour will be any more competent, but but somehow to think that i'm going to walk out of a jungle after 23 nights and announce a relaunch in british politics, frankly, is for the birds is a lot has happened whilst you've beenin lot has happened whilst you've been in there. >> suella braverman's been sacked. your old nemesis, lord cameron , has come into the fold. cameron, has come into the fold. lord now foreign secretary . lord now foreign secretary. we've also had net migration at three quarters of a million. so. so much for you to digest there. but all chatter i'm but all the chatter and i'm getting impression from what getting the impression from what you've nonsense . you've just said is nonsense. but chatter is that you but all the chatter is that you and boris could create some sort of pact to restore the chances of pact to restore the chances of the conservatives . now, you of the conservatives. now, you and i have spoken about this in

the past, and you felt quite wronged by boris in the past that reneged on a deal with that he reneged on a deal with you. it's never you. does that mean it's never going to happen again? never say neven going to happen again? never say never, never say never. >> i you know, i can't predict right now how what will happen, what i do think is that our country is being appalling, led that there is no proper opposition party and that we're living through a population crisis . and that really has crisis. and that really has little to do with the small boats. offensive, though that is, it's due to the fact that over 70 million people voted for lower immigration, voted for more border controls. what they've got is a conservative party in hock to giant multination businesses who want as much foreign labour as they possibly can. and if you want a gp appointment, don't you want to get a house for your kids? you want to drive anywhere without being stuck in a, you

know, on a terrible traffic jam. you can frankly go to hell . you can frankly go to hell. >> so nigel farage is out of the jungle, of course, and he'll present his show live from australia at 7 pm. this evening, exclusively live here on gb news. you can hear lots more from nigel farage on our website. of course . and you've website. of course. and you've helped to make gbnews.com the fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you very much. it's a really exciting day on gb news because we're launching the great british giveaway . yep, you could british giveaway. yep, you could win £10,000. brand new tech and shopping vouchers . and here's shopping vouchers. and here's how you could make all of those pnzes how you could make all of those prizes yours. you really could be the winner of the very first great british giveaway and receive nearly £12,000 worth of pnzes receive nearly £12,000 worth of prizes from us. >> first, we've got a simply stunning £10,000 in tax free cash to give you cash that you can spend on anything you like next, how about a new phone you'll also get a brand new

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isabel a monday to thursdays from . six till 930 earlier with from. six till 930 earlier with eamonn and isabel, i spent 23 nights in their and i loved every single minute of it. >> it's been the most unbelievable experience. >> nigel has been a revelation , >> nigel has been a revelation, i think all the way through this . and i think to get to third place was fantastic and he must have been thrilled. there >> pick people controversial people to go in. >> so, i mean , they've had nigel >> so, i mean, they've had nigel farage, they've had hancock, you know, who's next?

>> and if at some point when i've recovered from jungle there's a role for me to play , i there's a role for me to play, i would not rule it out. >> i did notice that both raj and boris both said that wasn't going to happen. i think we can leave it there. farage was leaving the door open. >> we spoke to him few >> we spoke to him just a few moments ago. laugh at your peril. >> breakfast with eamonn and isabel monday to thursday from 6 am. a.m. >> welcome back. it's 421. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now, later this hour, after nigel farage finally left the jungle, i'll ask if he can help to save the beleaguered conservative party but before that, i've got some breaking news for you. and it's bad news for prince harry. harry's been told to pay more than £48,000 to the publisher of the mail on sunday after losing the latest stage of a high court libel battle on friday. he had failed in a bid to have associated newspapers defence to

his libel claim thrown out. and now he must pay . for £48,447 on now he must pay. for £48,447 on account before the end of the year. account before the end of the year . harry, account before the end of the year. harry, of account before the end of the year . harry, of course, account before the end of the year. harry, of course, is suing associated did over february 2022, article about his legal challenge against the home office following a decision to change his publicly funded security arrangements when visiting the uk . so let's get visiting the uk. so let's get more now on our top story. and the tories split over the rwanda legislation . i'm joined now by legislation. i'm joined now by david davis, who's the conservative mp for hampton price and howden, thank you for joining us, mr davis. always a pleasure. it seems we have some echoes of brexit. all over again here. mark francois , the here. mark francois, the european research group , saying european research group, saying this bill is not fit for purpose . our political editor christopher hope said a moment ago he spoke to some mps and the whips are wetting themselves, he said, about how this vote is going to go ahead on this bill.

do you think this bill now, mr davis , is fatally flawed? it's davis, is fatally flawed? it's a dead duck . dead duck. >> no, i don't. >> i think i think it'll get through. i think chris is reflecting the views of some of my party, but not not many of them . look, we've got to have an them. look, we've got to have an improvement in the immigration asylum laws. a year ago when the prime minister took a grip of the albanian issue, we were approving 55% of albanian applications for asylum. albania is not an unsafe country. so the law was bonkers at that point. what they're doing now is deaung what they're doing now is dealing with the problem of planes being stopped on the tarmac by by the european court doing what they call a rule 39. basically it says you can't deport these people or can't send them anywhere. and we put that we're putting that right in this bill explicitly saying the minister can make a decision. we're also taking away a number of other powers which allow

which allow the european court to stop a movement of people to rwanda . and we're also putting rwanda. and we're also putting in place a new treaty so that you can't say rwanda's is unsafe. but what we're still having and what people like mark are worried about is people still have the right to say individuals , me, i've got individuals, me, i've got a problem. i've got deep vein thrombosis . ipsis i've got thrombosis. ipsis i've got serious cancer. i'm in the eighth month of pregnancy. proper reasons for not going to rwanda or even when they've got the wrong person . you know, i'm the wrong person. you know, i'm i'm david davis. the wrong person. you know, i'm i'm david davis . just imagine if i'm david davis. just imagine if they wanted to send me and instead sent the welsh secretary, david davies, that sort of mistake does happen and under british law forget european law under 200 years of british law, we have the right to go to the courts. if we have personally been unfairly treated. i mean, our mark and bill cash and so on, saying, you know, we should deport eight month pregnant women. i don't think i think this is think so. so i think this is when they when they settle down to it, they'll see that four of

the best lawyers in the land, you know, cox and speight and santos and so on have said this works. the home office says 95% of the cases of individual challenge will be struck down. so this will work and that will allow us to send people to rwanda whilst we deal with their cases. rwanda whilst we deal with their cases . that's that's that's cases. that's that's that's after all, what we tried to do in the first place. and if and if mark and his colleagues match managed to defeat it, i don't think they will. but if they manage it, what else manage to defeat it, what else have got? there's nothing have we got? there's nothing else its stead. else standing in its stead. we won't through . and if won't get it through. and if they they change they and if they change it to make it more fierce and basically take us out to the european convention on human rights, the good friday agreement collapses the and then brexit starts to come apart because the tca will fall. so this is as far as we can go and it will work. >> but mr davis, if you recall, theresa may's first brexit bill was so destined to fail it was

pulled out and amended completely before being put back to the chamber. is that not sensible thing to do in this instance? it's not just the right of the party who aren't happy with this. the one nation conservatives say that it's too hard line. they say it doesn't put the rights, the human rights of those we're trying to deport out so again, as out far enough. so again, as with brexit, we have a bill here which isn't keeping either room for the conservative party happy and therefore seems to be heading towards disaster. to two things on that. >> number one, you may remember it was theresa may's treaty that i resigned over because it couldn't work . it was i resigned over because it couldn't work. it was badly designed from all points of view. you're quite right, right, left. and indeed, the european union wouldn't accept it. this is not like that . you know, i've is not like that. you know, i've been through it. i mean, there's nobody in house of commons nobody in the house of commons who record who can claim a stronger record on than me, and on human rights than me, and i've through it from i've been through it from that point view. and from that point of view. and from that point of view. and from that point of view. and from that point of view, the minimum point of view, it's the minimum you make work you can do to make it work from the view of what's

the point of view of what's viable of maintaining viable in terms of maintaining our international relationships and in particular the good friday agreement. it's the maximum that can work. so we've actually position actually got an optimum position . that's what the government has found. they've got the very best lawyers to go through it. i know the know the star chamber the i know the star chamber committee have been through it, but you we've got but frankly, you know, we've got really, good lawyers really, really good lawyers to have through and have gone through it. and i believe i think they're believe them. i think they're right that's why i'm right. and that's why i'm encouraging my colleagues to encouraging all my colleagues to vote tomorrow. vote for it tomorrow. >> davis , thank >> okay. david davis, thank you for us on gb news. i forjoining us on gb news. i admire your optimism. okay. now it's fair rishi sunak has it's fair to say rishi sunak has got going on the got a lot going on at the moment, not only is the prime minister battling his minister battling to stop his party falling apart at the seams, spent much of today seams, he spent much of today giving at the covid giving evidence at the covid inquiry. relatives of people who died during the pandemic were waiting for sunak when he arrived morning . and i'm arrived this morning. and i'm joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley olivia. a day actually, weirdly, that rishi sunak might have enjoyed being in the covid inquiry because it's been absolute bedlam outside about

rwanda . the day started with an rwanda. the day started with an apology . then there was this apology. then there was this issue of the missing whatsapp messages, and then he got a grilling over eat out to help out. can you summarise today's action packed day for us, please ? >> well, 7- >> well, as 7_ >> well, as you 7 >> well, as you say, martin rishi sunak was probably quite pleased to be safe inside the covid inquiry today. pleased to be safe inside the covid inquiry today . while the covid inquiry today. while the debate about rwanda raged in westminster , in fact, the prime westminster, in fact, the prime minister, strangely enough, looked pretty comfortable and pretty confident today addressing inquiry he addressing the covid inquiry he was well up on the detail. it was well up on the detail. it was clear that he immersed himself in all of the sage advice at the beginning of the pandemic . he looked a lot more pandemic. he looked a lot more as though he knew precisely what he than boris johnson he was doing than boris johnson last week, and he was willing to pretty robust defend the eat out to help out scheme. ever since the start of the covid inquiry that scheme has come under a lot of criticism from lawyers who say that government scientists weren't advising and weren't. weren't there advice, wasn't

sought before the eat out to help out scheme was put in place. now rishi sunak said today that there were there was ample time for government scientists who disagreed with eat out to help out to speak out. he admits that he might not have gone and sought their advice, but he says it was up to them come me. and he says them to come to me. and he says that eat out help down was that eat out to help down was absolutely necessary get the absolutely necessary to get the economy going again. there was also, as you say, an argument about whatsapp that those missing whatsapps not every single one of rishi sunak messages was handed over to the covid inquiry sunak claims that that's because he changed phones multiple times since 2020, and those whatsapp messages were simply wiped out. how that will go down with the inquiry remains to be seen , but all in all, to be seen, but all in all, sunak looked quite confident as he pressed ahead . he was accused he pressed ahead. he was accused of being violently anti—lockdown. he said that that was not the case, but he thought that there was a moral case to

be doing a cost benefit analysis of lockdown before it was put in place. and he said that it was necessary to have the robust debates which we've been hearing about , the idea that everything about, the idea that everything could just be waved through dunng could just be waved through during the pandemic. he said, was dangerous for democracy . he, was dangerous for democracy. he, i would say today, is going to be a lot easier day for rishi sunak than tomorrow . sunak than tomorrow. >> okay. thank you for that update, olivia . superb as ever. update, olivia. superb as ever. yeah and i think he'll want to stay in there all week. i really do. much, harder for do. it's much, much harder for him out with rwanda and the him out here with rwanda and the entire apart entire party falling apart around his ears. well, lots more still to come between now and 5:00 as the number of foreign university students soars. i'll ask whether that spells bad news for british teenagers. but first, your latest news headunes first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> martin, thank you . the >> martin, thank you. the headunes >> martin, thank you. the headlines this hour, the government's rwanda legislation has come under fire again today,

this time from a breakaway group of mps. conservative mps who believe it needs a complete rewrite. mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group, says in its current form , the rwanda bill current form, the rwanda bill provides only a partial and incomplete solution , and a total incomplete solution, and a total overhaul may be the only way to stop the boats . but illegal stop the boats. but illegal immigration minister michael tomlinson said it's the toughest police piece of legislation tabled before parliament and it meets the supreme court's concerns . the prime minister meets the supreme court's concerns. the prime minister has defended his controversial eat out to help out scheme, saying it was just a micro policy in a much bigger reopening plan. he said it had been designed specifically for safely lifting lockdown restrictions in the uk . lockdown restrictions in the uk. earlier, rishi sunak began his evidence at the covid inquiry with an apology to those who'd lost their loved ones . however, lost their loved ones. however, he played down suggestions by hugo keith kc that severe

inefficiencies in downing street had led to a chaotic style of governance and a major data breach within the police service of northern ireland has been described as a wake up call for forces across the uk . the forces across the uk. the surnames and initials of almost 9500 officers and staff were published by mistake in august. a report into the data leak has made 37 recommendations for improving information security within the psni and two royal navy minehunter ships will be transferred to ukraine as part of efforts to boost the country's defence capability at sea . the mod says the uk's sea. the mod says the uk's leading the way with a new maritime coalition alongside norway aimed at increasing support for the eastern european nation. it'll deliver long term support . including training support. including training equipment and infrastructure to boost security in the region . boost security in the region. and campaigners are making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a road tunnel next to stonehenge .

road tunnel next to stonehenge. the save stonehenge world heritage site groups describing the government decision to back the government decision to back the £1.7 billion scheme as vandalism . a hearing will begin vandalism. a hearing will begin in the high court tomorrow. there's the headlines. more on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . our website, gbnews.com. >> and thank you, polly . now, >> and thank you, polly. now, it's a significant day in the battle to restore power sharing in northern ireland. the northern ireland secretary, chris heaton—harris has been holding talks with political leaders. i'm joined now by gb news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie . dougie, can you dougie beattie. dougie, can you bnng dougie beattie. dougie, can you bring us up to speed about today's events, please . today's events, please. >> well, welcome to hillsborough castle . it was here this morning castle. it was here this morning that chris heaton—harris, the secretary of state, came out and gave a statement that lasted probably about 30s and basically saying that it was all around a financial package that was going

to be put into northern ireland. now, unionists have stayed out of the assembly here, obviously because of the protocol and then the framework document, and they wanted certain guarantees and that's their seven tests in order that they would get the executive back up and running because in the last 21 months, of course, northern ireland has been run by directly from westminster, by the northern ireland office. so back from 2010, parties here have been saying that the way northern ireland is funded, especially around the barnett consequentials, is more based on numbers than it is on need. in fact , the welsh assembly fact, the welsh assembly achieved that in 2010, where they now have a fiscal floor where a limit can be hit, where they can actually fund , properly they can actually fund, properly fund their public services and the public sector. now in northern ireland there has been quite a few strikes over the last few months and out here today, as the politicians were coming in, there was quite a bit

of ruckus as the politicians heard from those that were striking and demanding more money. but at the quite laughable point of this in some ways is that even if northern ireland's executive was back tomorrow, each minister would not have had the money to fund those public services and the dup are pretty much saying now, well , we were dup are pretty much saying now, well, we were vindicated by staying out because it's brought everybody to the table . the everybody to the table. the other parties saying that other parties not saying that they're they should be in they're saying they should be in they're saying they should be in the whatever the assembly, but whatever way you this, martin, what you look at this, martin, what has happened today, as we've seen that that chris heaton—harris prepared to heaton—harris is prepared to come with a financial come forward with a financial package. now, whether that means the package will actually have a system that lasts forever , system in it that lasts forever, as in there is a difference to the barnett consequentials , a the barnett consequentials, a bit like there was in wales where they have that fiscal floor and northern ireland then can continue. so as there isn't a constant pulling down of the institutions and, and putting back up again every time that there's more money required that

they do not have to bring westminster to the table kicking and screaming in order to fund them they rest of them as they are the rest of united kingdom. does that also say that sir jeffrey donaldson has a deal and that these parties have been brought around the table today to discuss those finances that may be put in place because a one off payment, every party has come out here today in the press conference said a one off payment is not enough. it cannot be. it needs to something that repeat to be something that will repeat and the government and stabilise the government here, because, of course , here, because, of course, northern ireland has had its own government northern ireland has had its own goverrbutrt northern ireland has had its own goverr but in that time it's years. but in that time it's been out as much as it's been in, and most of that has been over finances. is this the over finances. so is this the final fix, will sir ? jeffrey final fix, will sir? jeffrey donaldson actually open up to a deal that he has had before christmas? i wouldn't think so. i would bet money that it will be on the other side of christmas that he will do it, although these are over although these talks are over the next three we'll the next three days and we'll see what they will bring out or whether there is actually a of light that northern ireland's

assembly and running assembly will be up and running once more. >> okay, dougie beattie thank you that comprehensive and you for that comprehensive and superb thank you. now superb update. thank you. now the conservative party in turmoil . i'm the conservative party in turmoil. i'm asking the conservative party in turmoil . i'm asking today, can turmoil. i'm asking today, can nigel farage save the tories ? nigel farage save the tories? i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news

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the martin daubney on gb news. now at 5:00, we'll have the latest on the chaos in the conservative party as mps decide whether or not they'll back russia's beleaguered rwanda bill. but before that, nigel farage is out of the jungle and he's not ruling out what's been called a dream ticket pairing with boris johnson. when he was asked if that could happen, nigel said simply, never say neven nigel said simply, never say never. but with the tories on course to lose the general election , could my gb news election, could my gb news colleagues save the conservatives? or is it simply too far gone? well, joining us now is former labour spokesperson james matheson. james, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. here we are again. it seems that every time the tories are facing disaster for down the barrel, they seem to reach out and expect to nigel come in and rescue them. could that work and should he even entertain the idea in the first place? should he entertain the idea? >>i idea? >> i love the idea that as if it's nigel's choice and nigel

will take the job if he wants the job and that the job is there for nigel. if only. if only he wants it. >> nigel farage has been desperate entire life to be desperate his entire life to be in the house of commons ever since he was a schoolboy . when since he was a schoolboy. when he talked about being inspired by enoch and other by enoch powell and other figures . figures. >> he's wanted to be in politics and he's wanted he's and he's wanted to be, and he's been. >> we lost him, i think probably that was nigel pulling the cable , didn't get off to the most complimentary of starts there. james we often hear this nigel never got elected into the house of commons, but forget he of commons, but we forget he systematically overhauled the brexit referendum . he got it on brexit referendum. he got it on the table in the first place with ukip and then in six weeks went to a national election win with the brexit party. james matthewson are you back with us? i think nigel farage pulled the cable on you there. james. i think nigel farage pulled the cable ijust)u there. james. i think nigel farage pulled the cable ijust aboutre. james. i think nigel farage pulled the cable just about getting s. i think nigel farage pulled the cable just about getting warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto just about getting warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto have about getting warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto have arout getting warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto have a pop.]etting warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto have a pop. so ing warmed i think nigel farage pulled the catto have a pop. so ing isayned i think nigel farage pulled the catto have a pop. so ing isay you up to have a pop. so you say you didn't. nigel hasn't been elected in the house of commons. that was elected that is true, but he was elected , of course, into the european

parliament significantly parliament and significantly changed the course of british political history by again, the brexit referendum on the table political history by again, the brexthen arendum on the table political history by again, the brexthen arendthe on the table political history by again, the brexthen arendthe line 1e table political history by again, the brexthen arendthe line with ble political history by again, the brexthen arendthe line with the and then over the line with the brexit party. and, you know, difficult times ask unusual questions . the conservatives are questions. the conservatives are certainly through certainly going through a difficult time. so rule out difficult time. so why rule out a return of someone like nigel if they are welcome to him being ianedin? if they are welcome to him being invited in? of course , because i invited in? of course, because i don't think there's the stomach for the majority of the tory party to take this on. >> everybody who i speak to from the tory party in those kind of, you know, more mainstream elements the and elements of the party and dislike the idea. >> swathes of the >> i'm sure swathes of the membership it, but membership would love it, but that's nigel that's because, you know, nigel farage is conservative member. farage is a conservative member. you a you know, he'd been a conservative in past. conservative member in the past. >> a conservative through >> he's a conservative through and through. >> his politic. >> i mean, that's his politic. so, it wouldn't be so, you know, it wouldn't be unusual for represent unusual for him to represent them. unusual for him to represent the and course, because of >> and of course, because of certain niche issues, had >> and of course, because of ce come|iche issues, had >> and of course, because of ce come away ssues, had >> and of course, because of ce come away from , had >> and of course, because of ce come away from the had to come away from the conservative campaign conservative party campaign externally many years externally for many, many years to great success. >> however, you know, if you ask somebody like me why nigel farage shouldn't be in mainstream it's mainstream politics, it's because he's dangerous.

>> the man is a >> i believe the man is a dangerous he says dangerous individual. he says dangerous individual. he says dangerous things with the intention of that, promoting his own interests, and it to own interests, and it leads to dangerous consequences. and that's why i don't believe he should be there. however if you ask actually the strategist in me whether i would want to see that from of labour that from behalf of the labour party run away with it, party than run away with it, because anybody because i think anybody who thinks is an thinks nigel farage is an electoral success because of brexit would be entirely wrong. it's nothing to do with nigel as a he a person. you know, he campaigned for brexit and he was very successful on that issue. but that's because the issue of brexit was successful . it's brexit was successful. it's nothing to do with nigel as an individual because we've seen him for stand so many him for stand election so many times absolutely thrashed times and be absolutely thrashed every time . every single time. >> but james, you know, i put it to you again that nigel said himself this morning when he began campaign on brexit. it was a fringe element at best that no one had real interest in, one had any real interest in, apart rump of the apart from the rump of the tories in the 1970s. and it was not only put on the mainstream agenda, but the reference item was referendum was

was held. the referendum was won, and british political history has been changed. and nigel farage, you know, you don't need to like the guy, but nigel farage was the engine of that movement. and that sense that movement. and in that sense , when we're facing a tory party now, appears to be now, which appears to be directionless, appears directionless, it appears to be divided over rwanda, over immigration, an and here we are again. we are going to be facing an immigration election now , an immigration election now, nigel has big ideas on that. ideas that are landing with the conservatives, i'll put it to you again. this isn't as outlandish as you may think , outlandish as you may think, right place, right time is the story of nigel farage's life when it comes to brexit and that campaign when he was in the right place at the right time, he attached himself to the issue which i have no doubt that he believes which i have no doubt that he bel i ves which i have no doubt that he beli mean, we heard that from >> i mean, we heard that from comments he >> i mean, we heard that from com having he >> i mean, we heard that from com having little he >> i mean, we heard that from com having little scraps he >> i mean, we heard that from com having little scraps and he was having little scraps and little disputes with, know, little disputes with, you know, fred nella rose fred sirieix and nella rose and others i have others about brexit. i have no doubt passionately doubt the man passionately believes in that. however when it general politics and it comes to general politics and representing the rest britain representing the rest of britain , you know diverse views

, you know the diverse views that people have britain. the that people have in britain. the man is a public school boy from from back in the past. he's stuck in a in a very specific part of british political history. you can see the influences on him. you can see the of things believes the kind of things he believes in. believe that's in. and i don't believe that's representative of even the modern party know modern conservative party know when it comes to certain issues. so i just don't see them turning to him unless it's an utter desperation . and of course, they desperation. and of course, they will facing utter desperation will be facing utter desperation when opposition when they're in opposition before long. >> and you know, james, >> yeah. and you know, james, you're attacking the man a bit. you know, he went to a public school. lot of school. well, a lot of politicians. you know keir politicians. did. you know keir starmer a sir? he's a qc. you starmer is a sir? he's a qc. you know, these these shouldn't be kind of barriers. these are just part of who the people are. well, let's go into boris johnson, talking johnson, because we're talking about here a double comeback on the cards and would you think bons the cards and would you think boris coming back is a good idea?i boris coming back is a good idea? i suspect so. i know the answer. but i again, i think we are at a crossroads. the conservative party, many, many people in their membership ,

people in their membership, many, many conservative voters, millions of them don't think that the current offering chimes with them or speaks to them. they're going to defect to other parties or stay at home altogether . and so at parties or stay at home altogether. and so at times like this, it's understand able, is it not, to look to form a luminaires like boris, who had a proven ability to win ? proven ability to win? >> understandably. yeah. i mean, there there is something that actually i'll agree with you on that boris johnson has a proven track record of winning the election . at least man is election. at least the man is a is moron , in my opinion. and is a moron, in my opinion. and the man i don't believe post covid and seeing the way that he ran the country and the partygate scandal and various other issues when he was in office which anybody who's known bons office which anybody who's known boris johnson for years could have predicted would have happened prime happened if he was prime minister. but i don't believe happened if he was prime minieven3ut i don't believe happened if he was prime minieven3ut i after believe happened if he was prime minieven3ut i after that,ve happened if he was prime minieven3ut i after that, the that even now, after that, the pubuc that even now, after that, the public or the british public would members the would turn in members of the conservative party. however because you have to remember, conservatives are traditionalists. they love things that have things in the past that have happened. to look happened. they like to look to the more than they to the past more than they look to the past more than they look to

the and the way that the future. and the way that margaret still margaret thatcher is still fawned over because of her success is, you know, is isn't similar dissimilar to the way they're talking about boris johnson now. so i would see that being possibility. nigel being a possibility. nigel farage, who campaigned against tories for years and through tories for years and through tories out, you know, out of their seats and caused disruption within the tory party, they're going to remember that and they're going to remember how personal it was dunng remember how personal it was during referendum . during that brexit referendum. and you know, the and he didn't, you know, the conservative party likes to put the conservative party first. nigel farage doesn't have a history boris history of doing that. boris johnson more so, okay. >> james mathewson, former labour spokesperson, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you for full and frank and you for your full and frank and forthright opinions as ever. that's do this show. that's what we do on this show. you know, we can all disagree as long a good long as we do it in a good nature . okay. so nigel farage is nature. okay. so nigel farage is out of the jungle, of course, after finishing third i'm after finishing third in i'm a celebrity and he presents his show live from australia at 7 pm. this evening on gb news. i can't wait to hear what he's got

to say about today's developments on the rwanda plan . developments on the rwanda plan. i think old rishi sunak might wish he could just go back into that covid inquiry, at least not answer his messages. what a nightmare day he's had. now there's never been so many foreign students in this country. a report from the centre for migration control has found that there was a massive 787,000 international students at uk universities in the last academic year. but while we know the impact that's having on net migration, it's also damaging for british students . it's and for british students. it's and joining me now is sunil sharma, chief operating officer at the conservative friends of the commonwealth, to go over this. the figures are eye—watering and everything seemed to change when universities became businesses and foreign students quite simply pay significantly more to get into the asian universities . get into the asian universities. on the one hand, tickety boo if a university, but not so good

news if you're, for example, a working class british student who can't financially compete and you're seeing yourself forced out of the market, definitely. >> i think one of the things to also bear in mind with the student visas is the amount of students bring families with them so their dependents with them so their dependents with them . them. >> i know it's only so that the suella braverman did the start of year , but we saw from of this year, but we saw from the last four years an eight fold increase in the amount of dependents coming into this country. around 13 country. so initially around 13 to 16,000in four years ago. now we're at 136,000 of dependents , we're at 136,000 of dependents, not even university students, but dependents from these students, which is a massive, massive strain on our economy, strain on our resources. >> and i think that's something that we must bear in mind. >> and also certainly something that's the last that's changed in the last couple of years alone is the number students who on number of students who stay on after they graduate. it to after they graduate. it used to be typically about 20% stayed on, but the figures out a few weeks ago 65% of those students now remain in the uk. and it

stands to reason that they're placing huge strain on public services for sure. >> and i think one of the frustrating things about a lot of these figures that we're getting reported sometimes we're not completely sure of the accuracy . there was report accuracy. there was a report only years that said only a few years ago that said around students stay around 100,000 students stay in this illegally. they this country illegally. they then later on decide to change it. so it's between 1500 to 100,000, which is a massive , 100,000, which is a massive, broad spectrum there. so i think there's even a chance that there may be even higher. there's even a chance that there may be even higher . and i think may be even higher. and i think that's a massive strain. but i think this shows on much think this shows on a much broader sense immigration think this shows on a much brbiggerense immigration think this shows on a much br bigger than immigration think this shows on a much br bigger than just immigration think this shows on a much br bigger than just stopping:ion think this shows on a much br bigger than just stopping the is bigger than just stopping the boats that's the massive boats for that's the massive government rhetoric, which is a fair and right rhetoric. but i think this shows we're going think this shows if we're going to borders, we've to control our borders, we've got to do than got to do more than just stoppingspecifically about universities. >> w- universities. >> done about this? >> what can be done about this? because a because ostensibly we have a private . can the private sector. can the government against it ? government legislate against it? can quotas ? i'm from can it impose quotas? i'm from a white working class background . white working class background. i the first lad in my family white working class background. i go the first lad in my family white working class background. i go toe first lad in my family white working class background. i go to university, n my family white working class background. i go to university, n mythatlily to go to university, and that was got a full grant. was because i got a full grant. i could never , ever afford to go i could never, ever afford to go to university now. and wonder

i could never, ever afford to go to ulmanyty now. and wonder i could never, ever afford to go to ulmany people and wonder i could never, ever afford to go to ulmany people are wonder i could never, ever afford to go to ulmany people are missinger i could never, ever afford to go to ulmany people are missing out how many people are missing out on opportunity because on that opportunity because they've forgotten. they've just been forgotten. >> think there's so many >> i think there's so many different ways that we could tackle the university situation . tackle the university situation. i think we could remove a lot of the courses, a lot of the courses we don't go to on courses we know don't go to on produce jobs afterwards. so maybe down amount maybe we cut down the amount of courses mean courses that will mean that we'll save of money in we'll save a lot of money in terms of costs. think terms of costs. i think apprenticeships is massive, apprenticeships is a massive, important seems important scheme. now it seems you unless you you can't get a job unless you go university, think you can't get a job unless you gca university, think you can't get a job unless you gca massive .ity, think you can't get a job unless you gca massive problem think you can't get a job unless you gca massive problem and1ink you can't get a job unless you gca massive problem and ink you can't get a job unless you gca massive problem and i think is a massive problem and i think that's why we have real problems is a massive problem and i think th.ourwhy we have real problems is a massive problem and i think th.our labours have real problems is a massive problem and i think th.our labour services al problems is a massive problem and i think th.our labour services because ms in our labour services because a lot of don't require lot of jobs don't require university. i think having university. so i think having less stronger less courses, more stronger courses, making it easier for british students to get in, i think this would have a massive, massive . back in the day. massive impact. back in the day. >> tony blair, you know, it was just education. education education. i think we've lost that translation somewhere along the line of what that means and how can we switch these kids back to on more kind of occupation based? i think you're dead right about apprenticeships, for example. >> well , i apprenticeships, for example. >> well, i think there is the

attraction in some ways right now. you know, you're paying £9,000 minimum to get into university . i think at schools university. i think at schools they be educate and, you they need to be educate and, you know, having career days , having know, having career days, having shown different jobs that shown the different jobs that are there. i think at the are out there. i think at the moment students, moment for a lot of students, for a younger people, for a lot of younger people, they what physically , they don't know what physically, what can once they get what jobs they can once they get out them, out of education. so for them, it's they see the culture of university. they see how much it's them. think it's pushed on them. so i think educating the children from a young saying need young age and saying we need service jobs, we need jobs service based jobs, we need jobs that don't require universities . that don't require universities. and i think getting that mindset out.tony and i think getting that mindset out. tony blair successfully got everyone into the education mind frame, whether that was actually successful the country is successful for the country is a different story. but i think it's now it's a very important because there is a massive lot of this country who of people in this country who have behind. think of people in this country who have this behind. think of people in this country who have this universitynd. think of people in this country who have this university cultureink superstar. >> thank you forjoining us on >> thank you for joining us on the show, sir. alok sharma excellent stuff. great food for thought there. now, then, there's to blow thought there. now, then, there sunak's to blow thought there. now, then, there sunak's hopes to blow thought there. now, then, there sunak's hopes of» blow thought there. now, then, there sunak's hopes of reviving rishi sunak's hopes of reviving the rwanda the european the rwanda plan. the european research group says the government should pull the bill

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gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to gb news with me, martin daubney. i'm here keeping you for i'm here keeping you company for the next we've got the next hour. we've got a cracking hour coming ahead. cracking hour coming up ahead. and rwanda and of course, top story, rwanda setback, nightmare setback, another nightmare for rishi we predicted rishi this time. we predicted it on this this on thursday on this show. this bill does not pass legal muster. it's not fit for purpose. say

the european research group. and they find 13 fatal flaws in this plan too soft for the tory right too and far too hardcore for the tory left. we are heading towards a dramatic showdown where this bill could sink without trace . will rwanda sink ? without trace. will rwanda sink? sunak. and of course , the other sunak. and of course, the other big story farage is out of the jungle. he may only have won bronze down under be speaking pure gold on the tories. listen to this. a total sham bulls rudderless, leaderless , utterly rudderless, leaderless, utterly useless and headed for catastrophe at the next election. and he's just getting warmed up. but he hinted at a potential farage boris comeback to save the tories. would you welcome nigel to return to the tory fray ? next story? of course tory fray? next story? of course .sunak tory fray? next story? of course . sunak says sorry at the covid inquiry. they called him dr. death because of his eat out to help out and then he couldn't find all of his whatsapp

messages. in fact, he just left the inquiry in the last few minutes and he might want to go back inside when he checks his phone today because it's been absolute calamity in the commons around his rwanda plan. a huge , around his rwanda plan. a huge, huge week ahead for rishi sunak. and finally old big ears is back . he's put his foot in it again. lineker and 30 other lovers have signed a letter to our government called rwanda chaotic and costly. is it time for the crisp salesman to keep his snout out of politics and how can he keep his job at the bbc when he keeps banging on about politics like this? all of that to come in the next hour . total bedlam in the next hour. total bedlam is the only way you can describe the last couple of weeks for rishi sunak. but today was absolutely knife edge stuff . the

absolutely knife edge stuff. the rwanda bill has been kicked apart by his own lawyers. he's now heading for an embarrassing defeat . nobody's happy on either defeat. nobody's happy on either side of the party, is it? game over for rishi sunak. will rwanda due to him? what brexit did for theresa may? all of that in the next hour. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . and mark martin. >> thank you. good evening. well, as you've been hearing, the government's rwanda legislation has come under fire once again , this time from once again, this time from a group of breakaway conservative mps say it needs a complete mps who say it needs a complete rewrite . but mark francois, rewrite. but mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group, says the rwanda bill provides a partial and an incomplete solution . a total overhaul may solution. a total overhaul may be the only way to stop the boats. >> we all want to stop the boats . there have been two legislative attempts at this already. the nationalities and borders act that didn't quite

work. the illegal immigration act that didn't quite work . so act that didn't quite work. so this is kind of three strikes and you're out, isn't it? so what is really important is if we're going to put a bill through parliament to have a piece of legislation which is fit for purpose as as the bill is currently drafted, it isn't well, the illegal migration minister, michael tomlinson, says he's confident the plan complies with the law and will work . work. >> look, this is the toughest piece of legislation that's ever been tabled before parliament. this is what we're determined to debate tomorrow. this is what we will tomorrow and we'll will debate tomorrow and we'll come due come to amendments in due course. convinced course. but i'm convinced because it and i'm because we've seen it and i'm convinced because of the government's legal position that we've afternoon, we've published this afternoon, that toughest piece that this is the toughest piece of legislation that this does meet the concerns of the supreme court . and we're going to have court. and we're going to have that debate tomorrow that robust debate tomorrow afternoon. the prime afternoon. now the prime minister has been busy defending his controversial eat out to

help out scheme, saying it was merely a micro policy within a bigger plan to reopen the uk . bigger plan to reopen the uk. >> rishi sunak told the covid inquiry it had been designed specifically to safely lift lockdown restrictions. he began his evidence with an apology to those who'd lost their loved ones, but he played down suggestions by lead counsel hugo keith. keith kc that severe inefficiencies in downing street had led to a chaotic style of governance. were you aware that his closest advisers had seemingly unanimously taken the view that there was a lack of efficiency ? efficiency? >> see, the administration has described privately as brutal and useless or criminally incompetent or operationally chaotic . chaotic. >> the fact that there was debate and that people were passionate about it and they had different points of view is, i think, a unsurprising and be good because it would be worse

if we were having this conversation and all the commentary was, well, there was no debate about any this no debate about any of this whatsoever . it was all just whatsoever. it was all just signed off, straightforward. someone put of paper , someone put a piece of paper, someone checked, and that was the of it. i think the last we heard of it. i think that actually far that would actually be far worse, frankly. so it's worse, quite frankly. so it's good was about good that there was debate about these things . these things. >> rishi sunak the prime >> rishi sunak well, the prime minister blamed minister also blamed the government during government for borrowing during lockdown record high taxes. lockdown for record high taxes. he told the inquiry the economic impact of paying it back is only now being felt by taxpayers . it now being felt by taxpayers. it comes as new data shows property taxes are among the highest across the developed world, with the office for budget responsibility signalling further hikes will come . the further hikes will come. the defence secretary says securing the seas is the only way to defeat russia's president putin as he announces a new maritime coalition alongside norway. two royal navy minehunters ships will be transferred to ukraine as part of efforts to bolster the country's defence capability. it will deliver long

term support , including term support, including training, equipment and infantry picture to boost security in the black sea. grant shapps says it sends a critical message to president putin if the kremlin does not believes we're distracted by events in the middle east, he is mistaken. >> this moment is a wake up call to the west, a moment once again to the west, a moment once again to renew our complete and utter resolve and prove putin wrong . resolve and prove putin wrong. >> grant shapps now a major data breach within the police service of northern ireland has been described as a wake up call for forces across the uk. the surnames and initials of almost 9500 officers and staff were published by mistake in august as well. a report into that data leak has made 37 separate recommends options for improving information security within the psni. chief constable john bucha said he accepts responsibility of the report , but every police

of the report, but every police force, every public sector organisation should read this report. >> it is certainly a wake up call for every police force in the country. in my view, it was difficult reading, but i accept andindeed difficult reading, but i accept and indeed embrace the learning within it. as the report shows , within it. as the report shows, no individual team , department no individual team, department or decision or indeed act caused this breach. this is an organisational failing and accumulation of issues . accumulation of issues. >> campaigners are making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a tunnel right next to stonehenge in wiltshire. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow . in the high court tomorrow. you're with gb news across the

uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> thank you, polly. now we start with yet another setback for rishi sunak and his hopes of sending migrants to rwanda . the sending migrants to rwanda. the influential european research group has said the plans to revive the scheme with emergency legislation do not go far enough . let's get straight now to our political editor , christopher political editor, christopher hope.chns political editor, christopher hope. chris total bedlam once again , this bill declared , are again, this bill declared, are not fit for purpose by mark francois. 13 holes they found in it, which they say means it's simply unfit for purpose. meanwhile the tory wets on the liberal left of the party aren't happy either. rumoured to be meeting this evening to discuss how this bill doesn't go far enough to protect the human

rights of those we plan to deport another day, another complete calamity in downing street for the conservative party . party. >> yes, mark, i wouldn't say calamity calamity just yet, but certainly teetering on the precipice looking into this vote tomorrow night in an hour's time, you'll have members of the one nation caucus, the left of the party around 100 mps meeting to discuss their next steps. do they think that as structured this bill goes too far, too with withdrawing from elements of the human rights act on the right, you've got another meeting by the erg a meeting with the common sense group. it's a new conservative. they're hosting it tonight along with northern research group, the conservative future group. these are a group of right wing tory mps. they're worried it doesn't go far enough. you heard earlier from mark francois, the erg . they mark francois, the erg. they ruled that, in fact, this isn't really getting really going to deliver getting getting taking off getting these flights taking off from uk airports in may next yean from uk airports in may next year, as mr sunak told us just

last thursday in that press conference earlier , i caught up conference earlier, i caught up outside parliament with mark francois, the chairman of the european research group of tory mps, the main group which commissioned these lawyers to review the bill and found it not workable . let's hear what you workable. let's hear what you have to say to me. >> the star chamber of legal experts, chaired by sir bill cash, spent nearly a week scrubbing this bill. forgive me. and they concluded this in summary, the bill over all provides a partial and incomplete solution to the problem of legal challenges in the uk courts being used as stratagem to delay or defeat the removal of illegal migrants to rwanda for a partial and incomplete solution. so the bill, as drafted , is not really bill, as drafted, is not really fit for purpose . so the fit for purpose. so the consensus of a meeting of five different backbench groups that i've just finished chairing was that the government, rather than

plough on regardless, would be better to pull the bill and to come back with a better draft that doesn't have all these holes in it that you have mark francois talking to me earlier on college green now , i did ask on college green now, i did ask him in that interview, which you find also on our youtube channel at gb news are you willing to bnng at gb news are you willing to bring down the government over this? >> because the truth is, if the government can't get through this, rwanda bill tomorrow, this, this rwanda bill tomorrow, they can't go back and renegotiate the treaty with rwanda on how to make it work. it does put the government in some jeopardy if they ahead some jeopardy if they go ahead with vote and the government with the vote and the government loses, it's a disaster. could prompt to try and push prompt labour to try and push for of confidence in for a vote of no confidence in the on wednesday. for a vote of no confidence in the the on wednesday. for a vote of no confidence in the the government wednesday. for a vote of no confidence in the the government haszdnesday. for a vote of no confidence in the the government has beenday. now the government has been fighting back. today they published own legal published their own legal advice, of that advice, a summary of that showing what underlies the rounded treaty. according to lawyers for the government, and also they put out some other independent aunt or the promoting and helping support independent research from the society of conservative lawyers

who are saying this is the best balance you get between resolving the tension between complying with international law and ensuring the effective operation of the agreement with rwanda. very tense . feels like rwanda. very tense. feels like brexit all over again. 2018, when government pulled its when the government pulled its meaningful vote one on theresa may's brexit deal. two more attempts and failed and we had an election within a year. it feels like that again. martin it's quite extraordinary. it feels very existential right now. the pm rishi sunak is coming back in his car from paddington and listening to gb news radio and hearing all this and wondering, blimey, what's waiting for me when get back . waiting for me when i get back. >> yeah. christopher hope well summed that rishi summed up. i think that rishi will be will be delighted to get back into that covid inquiry tomorrow switch his phone tomorrow to switch off his phone and pretend none of this is and to pretend none of this is happening. think you're dead happening. i think you're dead right. all right. it feels like brexit all over again. a flimsy treaty doesn't seem to please anybody. chris hope. thank you. superb stuff . now, spoke chris hope. thank you. superb stuff. now, spoke labour's stuff. now, we spoke to labour's shadow minister without portfolio, nick thomas—symonds. before that european research

group rejected the emergency legislation earlier on, thomas—symonds criticised the entire rwanda policy . entire rwanda policy. >> we won't be supporting the rwanda plan. we believe it is a an unworkable failing , an unworkable failing, astronomically expensive scheme . astronomically expensive scheme. so far the government has spent . so far the government has spent. £290 million and that at the moment has produced travel to and from rwanda for three conservative home secretaries. and frankly , the government is and frankly, the government is just continuing to throw good money after bad on this scheme when actually what they should be doing is the difficult, painstaking work that's required to stop people crossing the channelin to stop people crossing the channel in these very vulnerable small boats . small boats. >> now, nigel farage is back in the real world after finishing third in i'm a celebrity. the real world after finishing third in i'm a celebrity . and he third in i'm a celebrity. and he gave a scathing verdict of the

state of the conservative party when he spoke to gb news breakfast this morning. breakfast earlier this morning. >> almost for a month been >> i've almost for a month been away from the news, from what i can see, see the so—called conservative government. i say so—called, because they're not in the least bit concerned. lviv are in a state of total shambles, rudderless , shambles, rudderless, leaderless, utterly useless . leaderless, utterly useless. it's headed for catastrophe at the next election , deservedly so the next election, deservedly so . and that's not to say labour will be any more competent, but . will be any more competent, but. but somehow to think that i'm going to walk out of a jungle after 23 nights and announce a relaunch in british politics, frankly , is for the birds. frankly, is for the birds. >> it's a lot has happened whilst you've been in there. suella braverman has been sacked. your old nemesis, lord cameron, into the fold. cameron, has come into the fold. lord, now foreign secretary, we've also had net migration at three quarters of a million. so. so much for you to digest there. but all the chatter and i'm getting the impression from what you've is nonsense. you've just said is nonsense. but chatter is that you but all the chatter is that you and boris could create some sort

of pact to restore the chances of pact to restore the chances of the conservatives. now you and i have spoken about this in the past , and and i have spoken about this in the past, and you felt quite wronged by boris in the past that reneged deal with that he reneged on a deal with you. does that mean it's never going ? never say going to happen again? never say neven going to happen again? never say never, never say never. >> i you know, i can't predict right now how what will happen, what i do think is that our country is being appalled , led country is being appalled, led that there is no proper opposition party and that we're living through a population crisis . and that really has crisis. and that really has little to do with the small boats offensive , though that is, boats offensive, though that is, it's due to the fact that over 17 million people voted for lower immigration, voted for more border controls. what they've got is a conservative party in hock to giant multinational businesses who want as much foreign labour as they possibly can. and if you

want a gp appointment, you want to get a for house your kids, you want to drive anywhere without being stuck in a you know, on a terrible traffic jam . know, on a terrible traffic jam. you can frankly to hell . you can frankly go to hell. >> so nigel farage is out of the jungle and he'll present his show live from australia at 7:00 this evening. excuse lucidly live, of course, here on gb news. now you get lots more from nigel farage on our website. and thanks to you , gbnews.com is the thanks to you, gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news and all the brilliant analysis that you've come to expect from us here at gb news. so thanks for making that happen . now it's a really that happen. now it's a really exciting day on gb news because we're launching the great british giveaway . you could win british giveaway. you could win £10,000, brand new tech and shopping vouchers, and here's how you could make those prizes yours . yours. >> this is your chance to win cash , treats and tech in our cash, treats and tech in our very first great british giveaway . these are totally tax giveaway. these are totally tax free. £10,000 cash up for grabs,

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his controversial eat out to help out scheme led to him being branded doctor death by government scientists. and there he is just leaving the inquiry early when he checks his phone, he might want to go back our he might want to go back in our martin on gb news. this martin daubney on gb news. this is britain's news channel .

had dbs and co weeknights from six earlier with eamonn and isabel , i six earlier with eamonn and isabel, i spent 23 nights in their and i loved every single minute of it.

>> it's been the most unbelievable experience since nigel has been a revelation. >> i think all the way through this and i think to get to third place was fantastic and he must have been thrilled. there >> people, controversial people to go in. so, i mean, they've had nigel farage, they've had handcock , you know, who's next. handcock, you know, who's next. >> and if at some point when i've recovered from jungle, there's a role for me to play , i there's a role for me to play, i would not rule it out. >> i did notice that both raj and boris both said that wasn't going to happen. i think we can leave it there. >> farage leaving the door >> farage was leaving the door open. spoke to him few open. we spoke to him just a few moments ago. you laugh your peril. >> breakfast with eamonn and isabel to thursday from 6 isabel mundy to thursday from 6 am. a.m. >> welcome back. it's 523. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later this hour, i'll tell you why. gary lineker once again stuck his big nose in where it's not wanted again. and don't

forget that nigel farage will be back on gb news this evening in about an hour and 36 minutes. he'll present his show live from australia at 7 pm. on this channel exclusively. i can't wait to hear what niva's got to say about today's developments on the rwanda plan. the whole country is falling apart and he's not here to sort it out. nigel, your country needs you and we need you to watch nigel farage live 7 pm. this evening. gb news is now rishi sunak has left the covid inquiry stage , left the covid inquiry stage, starting off his day, greeted by relatives bereaved by the pandemic. the prime minister left looking rather wiped out. just a warning that this clip of the prime minister has some flashing images. sunak face grilling questions on missing whatsapp messages his eat out to help out scheme and whether he listened to scientific advice. and i'm joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley . olivia, thanks for utley. olivia, thanks for joining us again.

utley. olivia, thanks for joining us again . the day joining us again. the day started with an apology. then there was the mystery of the missing whatsapp messages. the same problem that faced boris johnson , of course, and then a johnson, of course, and then a thorough grilling of the eat out to help out scheme. and then he probably came out, checked his phone wished go back phone and wished he'd go back inside a great day inside again. not a great day for sunak . for rishi sunak. >> well , absolutely. i for rishi sunak. >> well, absolutely. i think he was probably quite happy to be safe inside the covid inquiry today. while the row over rwanda raged back in westminster, in some ways i thought actually that rishi sunak seemed in his element today. unlike boris johnson, who said over and over again how many of the details he had forgotten, and his scientific adviser has said that he was clueless about some of the scientific elements. rishi sunak made it very clear that he was in all the time. was up in the data all the time. he knew precisely what was going on pretty much every moment and he was on top of it. he was very prepared to rebut or defend his eat out to help out scheme. to me, that was one of the most significant moments of the day

almost the beginning of almost since the beginning of the that scheme the covid inquiry. that scheme has criticised on the has been criticised on the grounds that the chancellor didn't seek the views of the scientific adviser before implementing it. well, rishi sunak said today that it was a necessary scheme to get the economy going again and if the scientific advisers had a problem with it, then they should have raised their concern with him, essentially saying it wasn't up to him to go and ask. it them to come and it was up to them to come and tell . now. also to tell him. now. he was also to prepared say some things which we haven't heard yet before. we saw real lockdown sceptic saw the real lockdown sceptic chancellor from 2022 rather than the beleaguered prime minister of today, he said that the pubuc of today, he said that the public has forgotten the extent to which the tax burden that we're facing today is a result of measures that were taken in the pandemic. of measures that were taken in the pandemic . as you say, the pandemic. as you say, perhaps the most difficult moment for him was when he was quizzed on those missing whatsapp messages, messages which were exchanged between the then chancellor, rishi sunak,

and ministers and advisers at the time, but which have since been lost. he claimed they've been lost. he claimed they've been lost. he claimed they've been lost because he has changed phones multiple times since then. but he attempted to sort of explain that away by implying that it wasn't too much of a problem, by saying that he wasn't a prolific user of wasn't a very prolific user of whatsapp. anyway, it'll be interesting to see how that sort of sits with the board of the inquiry . but overall he looked a inquiry. but overall he looked a lot more confident than boris johnson looked last week and he's probably relishing these last few hours while he can just about avoid the rwanda crisis, which is engulfing parliament and will be all anyone's talking about tomorrow . about tomorrow. >> okay, olivia lee, thank you for that update . superb as ever. for that update. superb as ever. now, rishi sunak says that his eat out to help out scheme saved people devastating job people from devastating job losses. and joining us now is the owner of the dog at wingham in kent, mark bridger. the owner of the dog at wingham in kent, mark bridger . and mark, in kent, mark bridger. and mark, thanks for joining us. in kent, mark bridger. and mark, thanks forjoining us. cast in kent, mark bridger. and mark, thanks for joining us. cast your mind back in time. mark hospitality was on its knees.

the industry was back broken literally over a barrel , having literally over a barrel, having been mothballed for many months and at the time eat out to help out must have seemed to you like a lifeline, a breath of fresh air, something that the industry much, much needed . absolutely much, much needed. absolutely >> we we've been closed for months. >> we were all terribly worried for our businesses and our staff were worried for their jobs . and were worried for their jobs. and it was a real lifeline. um, the, the, you know, we faced just in a small pub in kent, we faced very difficult challenges of if we should be open , how we should we should be open, how we should be looking after our staff, how we should be looking after our customers and how on earth we were going to our business was going to survive . and i feel for going to survive. and i feel for anyone making decisions at government level at this time on a scale, you know, a billion times the size of the dog at wingham , they were juggling

wingham, they were juggling people and the economy and health. um, but but eat out to help out help out was incredible for our business. it it was probably one of the key things that enabled us to survive it because of course he earned the name dr. death eat out costs £840 million. >> 160 million meals ordered, but actual fact, mark, when you look at the data, the covid case numbers in the uk were no more than in france or spain, which didn't have an eat out to help out scheme . um, so looking back, out scheme. um, so looking back, mark, with that evidence stacked up, do you think it was still the right thing to have done for britain and for the hospitality industry in . particular industry in. particular >> yes. if if the health care issues weren't bouncing our books certainly were. >> you know, the restaurant . >> you know, the restaurant. that's not to say it was easy. i

mean, we it was the busiest times we've ever known. busier than it was like christmas day every day for the period. and so it was real hard work. but but like i say, that measure, you know, twinned with the furlough and the vat that kept our business afloat . it kept our business afloat. it kept our staff in jobs and ultimately , we staff in jobs and ultimately, we no one was forcing the public to come out and they they were there in droves , hugely there in droves, hugely appreciating the chance to be out with friends, with family , out with friends, with family, eating fantastic meals at the dog and getting a, you know, a glimpse of real normal life again . again. >> okay. mark bridgen , owner of >> okay. mark bridgen, owner of the dog at wingham in kent, thank you very much for joining us. i think actually looking when we look back, history will look favourably upon eat out for help to help out . it was one of help to help out. it was one of those that i think we those things that i think we needed was concerned, needed. everyone was concerned, but we had to make a decision, didn't we? mark it couldn't just be the pandemic and the be about the pandemic and the

virus in the end, we had to get the country open again, eating again , drinking again and back again, drinking again and back to normal , again, drinking again and back to normal, didn't we? >> absolutely , yeah. app saving >> absolutely, yeah. app saving businesses and getting life back on track . on track. >> thank you very much. always a pleasure, mate . and good luck. pleasure, mate. and good luck. i heard your kids. they're calling you for dinner. it sounds like they eat tonight. they want to eat out tonight. thank superb thank you very much. superb stuff. still stuff. there's lots more still to now and 6:00, to come between now and 6:00, i'll at claims that the i'll look at claims that the latest run film could latest chicken run film could lead, get to an increase in lead, get this to an increase in the number of vegans . but first the number of vegans. but first is your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. the government's rwanda legislation has come under fire once again this time from a breakaway group of conservative mps who say it needs a complete rewrite . mark francois, chairman rewrite. mark francois, chairman of the tory led european research group , says in its research group, says in its current form the bill provides a partial and incomplete solution

and a total overhaul may be the only way to stop the boats. but illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says it's the toughest piece of legislation been tabled before parliament and it does meet the supreme court's concerns . the prime court's concerns. the prime minister has been defending his controversial eat out to help out scheme, telling the covid inquiry it was just a micro policy within a bigger plan to reopen the uk. rishi sunak said it had been designed specifically to safely lift lockdown restrictions as he began his evidence with an apology to those who'd lost their loved ones and a major data breach within the police service of northern ireland has been described as a wake up call for forces right across the uk . for forces right across the uk. the surnames and initials of almost 9500 officers and staff were published by mistake in august, a report into the data leak has made 37 recommendations for improving information security within the psni and the

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,1.1674. the price of gold is £1,578.77 an ounce. and the ftse 100 is closed for the day today it stopped at 7544 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . and maggie polly, now report. and maggie polly, now i regret to inform you gary lineker is at it again. >> the bbc presenter is among a group of celebrities to sign a letter calling for the government to scrap its rwanda scheme. as you do as a football commentator. lineker branded britain's refugee system ever more uncaring, chaotic and costly. and earlier this year, lineker criticised the government bill on the treatment of asylum seekers . well, joining of asylum seekers. well, joining me now is the former bbc executive, roger bolton . sir executive, roger bolton. sir rogen executive, roger bolton. sir roger, welcome to the show once again . and here we are once again. and here we are once again. and here we are once again talking about mr lineker.

now, course, we live in a now, of course, we live in a free country. we're a to free speak as we wish. one thing i hear a lot from people who work at the bbc is that when lineker does something this, they does something like this, they kind think, why kind of groan and think, oh, why can't you just keep mate? can't you just keep quiet, mate? what's your take? >> i think not just the people at the bbc. director general needs this. >> hole in the head and new. >> the appointed chair is something he has got to go in front of. mps wednesday and front of. mps on wednesday and he's an answer to this. >> yeah, the timing is awful, but i've question for you, but i've got a question for you, martin would you be so concerned if a if gary lineker had signed a letter of the rwanda letter in support of the rwanda scheme ? scheme? >> well, they should keep his nose out of it. whatever his position on the rwanda scheme, because i have to pay my licence fee everybody else in fee like everybody else in britain, want hear britain, because i want to hear people football people talk about football or news it lineker news or whatever it is. lineker isn't a political isn't paid to be a political pundh isn't paid to be a political pundit , and i isn't paid to be a political pundit, and i thought, isn't paid to be a political pundit , and i thought, correct pundit, and i thought, correct me wrong, i thought, me if i'm wrong, i thought, roger that. there was a social media and conditions code media terms and conditions code of conduct, which should mean lineker should keep a sock in. it didn't seem to affect him,

though, it ? though, does it? >> well, he's a very clever man because he's he's writing close to the wind, but he knows what he's doing. >> me >> let me talk to you. >> let me talk to you. >> read the what? >> read the what? >> it says the new guidelines for those presenting flagship programmes and matchdays, a flagship programme, carry a particular responsibility to help balance commitments to both freedom expression freedom of expression and impartiality. >> you are free to express opinions about the issues that matter to you . matter to you. >> this includes issues that may be the subject of public and political debate. however, any commentary must be within the boundanes commentary must be within the boundaries below , and it boundaries below, and it outlines for to don't apply because they relate to a general election period. >> and so on. but the two that would apply to gary lineker are these don't endorse or attack a political party, including parties in government or opposition to don't criticise the character of individual politicians as in the uk . so politicians as in the uk. so i think strictly speaking , and he think strictly speaking, and he will have worked at this, he probably he hasn't broken the

rules, but he but of course, you know, he's putting himself first before the bbc. it's the last thing the bbc wants . and why thing the bbc wants. and why does he keep on doing it? i mean, i have a theory. my theory , apart from, you caring , apart from, you know, caring genuinely about the issue , is genuinely about the issue, is that he's probably knows his time on match of the day is up. he's probably will leave in the summer. he's got many good summer. he's got so many good business interests and so on, so many other things to do. but in the end he is not going to stop speaking out and i think in the end, by this time well know, in six months time, i would be surprised if gary lineker is still presenting match of the day. >> well , that's given some >> well, that's given some people listen to this no doubt huge crumbs of comfort. i mean i enjoy manchester when enjoy watching manchester when there commentators there weren't any commentators when strike. but when lineker went on strike. but another thing that in the another thing that sticks in the craw about rodge, isn't craw about this, rodge, isn't just fact of lineker's just the fact of lineker's opinions , it's the timing. as opinions, it's the timing. as you said . and the bbc licence you said. and the bbc licence fee has just gone up, of course, and we don't have a say in that

matter. it's a compulsory tax ocean which can put us in jail if we refuse to pay on top of the pay is lineker . so the pay list is gary lineker. so isn't there this huge disconnect 7 isn't there this huge disconnect ? roger that. not only are we having this forced down our throats by the multi—million inaya gary lineker, but his life is completely out of step . for is completely out of step. for example, how many asylum seekers will be chasing his school places? his doctors places competing for a house in the areas where he lives? it won't happen. this is the concept to him, not a reality that affects his day to day life . his day to day life. >> well, i think you know him about him, his inner workings of his mind. remarkably i don't. >> i do know, however, that >> and i do know, however, that he refugees himself . he has put up refugees himself. >> i think he's serious on this issue.i >> i think he's serious on this issue. i think bbc issue. i think the bbc situation, as you know, it's lost the licence fee has lost over 30% of its value. it's now going to have to cut further and nobody has actually been sent to jail. in my i've been aware about the two, two years, about the last two, two years, the licence fee is a regressive tax . it's probably, though the tax. it's probably, though the least worst one because as i

sometimes point out , you know, sometimes point out, you know, your organisation , if the bbc your organisation, if the bbc took advertising in your organisation would probably go bust. so there's not many people in the business and in your business who want that bbc to take advertising. so it's very difficult. what we need actually is a proper review do we need is a proper review of do we need pubuc is a proper review of do we need public is public service? broadcasting is the bbc the way of the bbc the best way of delivering how you pay delivering it? how do you pay for it? but i think lineker for it? but i think gary lineker , if was new chairman of , if i was the new chairman of the bbc, has just been appointed. lord, gary lineker appointed. oh lord, gary lineker saying is the last thing saying this is the last thing i'd want. >> and that's the point, isn't it? we continually talk about this and you you clearly, passionately agree the bbc has has a merit and a place within the fabric of society. we can look at the funding model, but we're constantly distracted by, i think , what feels the i think, what feels like the opinions of people who are very wealthy and very divorced from the day to day lives of ordinary people. and why i think people. and that is why i think we , rodge, we continually, rodge, having these , it just these conversations, it just seems so out of touch . seems so out of touch. >> well, there is a, you know, there's a problem. you've got to

face this problem. you face this problem. do you believe or not? believe in the market or not? and course you can't justify and of course you can't justify some salaries, it's and of course you can't justify s(market salaries, it's and of course you can't justify s(market and salaries, it's and of course you can't justify s(market and the .aries, it's and of course you can't justify s(market and the bbc, it's and of course you can't justify s(market and the bbc frequently a market and the bbc frequently loses people. they leave them 90, 9° loses people. they leave them go, go elsewhere. they paid more. so you've got to recognise that if there's a free market, people are to move pay that if there's a free market, pewhatever. to move pay that if there's a free market, pewhatever. in to move pay that if there's a free market, pewhatever. in ways�*nove pay that if there's a free market, pewhatever. in ways that pay that if there's a free market, pewhatever. in ways that you3ay or whatever. in ways that you and i perhaps can't justify why in terms of ordinary people. but that's it. i don't know what you're in job. that's it. i don't know what you'it's in job. that's it. i don't know what you'it's significantly job. that's it. i don't know what you'it's significantly more.». but it's significantly more. i would suggest, than a large number viewers. that's number of your viewers. that's the way is. but think that the way it is. but i think that probably the difficult for the bbc this . i probably the difficult for the bbc this. i think gary bbc is this. i think gary lineker will leave. but if they move against him now , what move against him now, what happened last the whole happened last time? the whole range commentators range of other commentators wouldn't present the programme in place . he's an important in his place. he's an important businessman . he's got actually a businessman. he's got actually a lot of these other commentators on his own books or his agency . on his own books or his agency. and if the bbc does move against him and maybe him on this issue and maybe we'll have to , there'll be a we'll have to, there'll be a heck of a rumpus and there'll be a lot of people who say, well, i'm not going to stand in in in lineker's place . it's i wouldn't

lineker's place. it's i wouldn't like to be director general at the moment. this one is so explosive. >> okay. and what about the royal the bbc charter moving forward? do you think that needs to be sort of thrown in the bin? do we need to move towards a free market solution? you talk about the free market. i i believe in the free market should a subscription should it be a subscription model? more? because, you model? no more? because, you know, you make mischief about my salary. is my salary. the difference is my viewers get threatened salary. the difference is my viewilegal get threatened salary. the difference is my view legal prosecutionitened salary. the difference is my view legal prosecution if�*ned salary. the difference is my view legal prosecution if they with legal prosecution if they don't pay my salary . there's a don't pay my salary. there's a huge difference between the bbc and an ordinary broadcaster. surely that's the way the bbc should be moving . should be moving. >> well, that that's a good response , by the way. you know , response, by the way. you know, look, the thing is this. i believe in the free market as well. but you do have things like market failure. i mean, for example, in children's programme, the only children's programme, the only children's programme that's made original children's programme in this country, cartoons country, which isn't cartoons, whatever bbc, what do whatever is by the bbc, what do we want have available to our children? do we think there's a role for children's broadcasting? local broadcasting? take local journalism been hit journalism which has been hit very, very do we think

very, very badly. do we think that's important? does the bbc have and you could start have a role and you could start religion , science, engineering, religion, science, engineering, a raft of things, the a whole raft of things, the arts, whatever , and not least, arts, whatever, and not least, do you want to be able to watch programmes don't have ads programmes that don't have ads in of it? i mean, in the middle of it? i mean, there's a big debate we should have destroy something have before we destroy something that's let's that's works. i mean, let's not do what with brexit, do what we did with brexit, which is we voted against something and then what do we do? and brexiteers hadn't do? and even brexiteers hadn't worked one out. let's not worked that one out. let's not get licence fee and get rid of the licence fee and then say , what do now? then say, what do we do now? let's proper debate. do let's have a proper debate. do we need public service broadcasting? best broadcasting? what's the best way and yeah. gary way of paying it? and yeah. gary lineker think probably lineker i think you probably weren't job six weren't being yourjob in six months weren't being yourjob in six mo okay . roger bolton, former >> okay. roger bolton, former bbc executive, thank you. you managed to shoehorn brexit into that debate at the tail end. you've been watching me too much, mate. thank you very much for stuff . for tuning in. excellent stuff. now, could the latest chicken run people run film lead to more people becoming vegans? well, that's what a lot of activists are hoping will happen. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

christys. tonight, 9 to 11 pm. only on gb news the people's channel. britain's news channel . channel. britain's news channel. >> welcome back. 546 you're watching or listening to me, martin daubney on gb news. now loads of you have been writing in today and emailing them and this on rwanda . john says this this on rwanda. john says this will be interesting just how many mps will vote against the

bill or are they going to put party before country just like they have done with net immigration in at nearly 750,000 people per year? great point, alan says this. we all saw rishi sunak claimed the rwanda deal was watertight. now we hear it isn't. did he lie to the whole nafion isn't. did he lie to the whole nation on nigel farage sue says this i would love boris johnson and nigel farage to run this disastrous country. we most definitely would not say great britain. now and on the covid inquiry, steve says this why is no one asking why whatsapp is used by government ministers rather than a government suppued rather than a government supplied messaging system? it's a fair point. well made. and anyway, they can't even find the messages or get their hands on them. in this covid inquiry i think two of them losing their messages to me just seems a little bit sus. let me know what you think. now now the latest chicken run film comes out this friday. it's about thousands of

hens who are rescued from a nugget factory ahead of its launch. vegans are hoping the move will make lots of us stop eating meat. and there's a precedent for all of this. apparently, their 1995 classic babe babe about a pig to led a big increase in vegetarianism. well joining us now is dr. karis bennett from the people of the ethical treatment of animals, otherwise known as peter. thank you for joining otherwise known as peter. thank you forjoining us. karis so on the one hand, this is a good thing, right? if we're having a movie about a chicken farm or a pig movie about a chicken farm or a pig on a farm, children we know are impressionable and they like animals and they don't want them to die. but i put it to you, is veganism being forced down the throat during a movie the right thing to do, or should we just be able to enjoy the movie ? be able to enjoy the movie? >> hi, martin. it's fantastic to be on. i am super excited to watch dawn of the nugget, the first chicken run film had such a big impact, so did babe, as

you mentioned, and so did other films like free willy . it really films like free willy. it really is helping people to see animals and chickens as the individuals they are. >> so in the movie , the chickens >> so in the movie, the chickens have individual personalities and characters , and that's just and characters, and that's just what real chickens have. >> they can feel pain, they feel emotions like love. they can communicate using 24 different vocalisations they're absolutely amazing birds. vocalisations they're absolutely amazing birds . and i think this amazing birds. and i think this is really going to be challenging millions of people to question who they're eating because, you know , these are because, you know, these are individuals that are ending up on people's plates here. they are not a nugget . are not a nugget. >> okay. well, some of the messaging, it was screened at the tail end of last week. as i said, it's out this week. and in the movie, apparently a scientist explains that when a bird is frightened , its muscles bird is frightened, its muscles tent tense and the connective

tissue forms knots resulting in tough , dry and flavourless meats tough, dry and flavourless meats and as a consequence, the chickens, of course, they're made of plaster scenes, not real chickens. in this movie . or they chickens. in this movie. or they have this lobotomy band to keep them calm. now i'm just wondering, i've got kids . they wondering, i've got kids. they love these movies. they also like chicken nuggets. our kids are going to be walking out of these kind of movies a bit traumatised by what be traumatised by what should be a bit of good fashioned family bit of good old fashioned family fun escapism . i'm they're fun and escapism. i'm they're not going to be traumatised. >> they're going to be educated and actually children already have this natural empathy and love for animals. >> booths so really they're going to be questioning what they're eating . they're eating. >> and now over half of children in the uk are already vegetarian, vegan or they want to be. there's been a huge change. >> we have sir david attenborough saying that we just can't continue eating animals as we are doing so we need to

change for the sake of the planet and to stop exploitation and cruelty. >> and there's 73 billion chickens killed for their flesh every year worldwide , and it's every year worldwide, and it's driving the bird flu craze . driving the bird flu craze. ipsis we've had bird flu transferring to sea birds as mammals. it's now reached the antarctic and it's killing seals andifs antarctic and it's killing seals and it's going to put penguins at risk . how and it's going to put penguins at risk. how much is it going to take? we need people to change right away and this film plays a really important part. even the director stopped eating chickens when he was filming it. >> that is true. it does feel when you read some of the notes of this movie like it was almost compulsory to be a vegan. matthew glover, who's the founder of veganuary, said this movie is really pushing the needle . i've never seen a needle. i've never seen a cartoon like this. and isn't that the point? we don't want to see a cartoon about chickens who are made of plasticine. they're not even real chickens. let's just into our heads. just get that into our heads. kyrees and we are educating

children about killing them and eating them. no normally after a movie like this, my kids might want to go for some nuggets or other mickey d's. this might traumatise them for life. >> i do disagree . i think the >> i do disagree. i think the wonderful thing now is that you can go to mickey d's, you can go to burger king, you can go to kfc , and you can get the vegan kfc, and you can get the vegan chicken nuggets. >> you can get vegan chicken burgers all all the supermarkets have wonderful all vegan chicken roasts , plant based burgers. roasts, plant based burgers. it's all available now. so you don't have to miss out on anything . anything. >> and you know, these movies are a really powerful way of connecting . and anyone who wants connecting. and anyone who wants to give it a try is going vegan. it'll be the best thing you'll ever do. peter, are here to support you. just go to our website. we've got free recipes and information. >> all right, doctor harris, bennett, we're going to have to leave i know leave it there. i don't know about you watching. actually about you watching. i'm actually quite burger quite fancy. a chicken burger hasn't that's just

hasn't worked on me. that's just me. this on that me. and anyway, on this on that note, dewberry is my note, michelle dewberry is my favourite part of the show. you've hoved into view again. what about that? what do you make about that? >> kids? i confess . >> brainwashing kids? i confess. actually i am becoming. i am a meat eater. i do confess that, but i don't know if it's i'm getting older or becoming a mum or i don't know what it is. i do feel a little guilty about feel a little bit guilty about eating as i do. i can't eating animals as i do. i can't help it. i don't know why i do. i do eat meat. but then i do find myself kind of thinking, oh, could have something different. >> so what's on your menu tonight? >> what's on your menu? >> what's on your menu? >> you got couch? >> have you got a couch? of course. lay the couch course. you to lay on the couch and just have a few and you can just have a few words my about what's words in my ear about what's going on. >> get some nuggets. going on. >> yeah. get some nuggets. going on. >> yeah. i get some nuggets. going on. >> yeah. i don'tyme nuggets. going on. >> yeah. i don't know1ggets. going on. >> yeah. i don't know what's happening to me, but i don't know. just a minority know. maybe i'm just a minority of sure will get of one. i'm sure people will get in touch and tell me. anyway. lots tonight. of lots coming up tonight. of course. to touch briefly lots coming up tonight. of cotthe to touch briefly lots coming up tonight. of cotthe covid to touch briefly lots coming up tonight. of cotthe covid inquiry. h briefly lots coming up tonight. of cotthe covid inquiry. yeahefly on the covid inquiry. yeah i thought it was quite interesting that sunak apologised. not just to those obviously lost loved ones, but also to those people that had suffered . and i found that had suffered. and i found it quite interesting and

acknowledgement that actually so many suffer because many people did suffer because of the covid responses and that conversation or conversation about whether or not enough cost not there was enough cost benefit analysis on the benefit analysis done on the restrictions . want to explore restrictions. want to explore that. there's so much that. and also there's so much stuff now in this stuff going on now in this country. you've got tax rates when it comes to a ratio of gdp. the highest levels . you've got the highest levels. you've got tax burdens, the highest levels. apparently we've got some of the highest property taxes in the developed the gap between developed world. the gap between the haves and the have nots is just control. so i'm just out of control. so i'm asking, backwards just out of control. so i'm askircountry backwards just out of control. so i'm askircountry or backwards just out of control. so i'm askircountry or what?)ackwards just out of control. so i'm askircountry or what? also,ards just out of control. so i'm askircountry or what? also, are as a country or what? also, are we teaching the right things to kids school? so many parents kids in school? so many parents want their kids to be taught life skills opposed life skills as opposed to focussed all on academia. how much of that, though, is a parent's job? i can't help wondering that. why do so many parents want to outsource basic parenting to teachers? aren't those teachers got enough to do, or is that indeed the role of schools and nhs ? how on earth do schools and nhs? how on earth do we tough love, wes we fix it? tough love, says wes streeting. does that streeting. but what does that look ? look like? >> okay, well, that's great stuff. that's dewbs& co coming back for but of course

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view. our tax to gdp ratio has hit its highest level. the gap between the haves and the have nots is in danger of becoming a chasm, and the disadvantaged are no better off than they were 15 years ago. and get this the uk has the highest property taxes in the developed world. so a simple question for you is this country going back ? woods and country going back? woods and shadow health secretary wes streeting says a tough love approach is needed to save the nhs. is he right? and what would that look like? and get this right. twice as many parents want schools to prepare children for adult life rather than higher academic achievers . do higher academic achievers. do you agree with that? are we teaching the right things in schools as . yes, indeed. so schools as. yes, indeed. so we're going to have to debate on all of that to come. but first, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest news headlines as .