at 7:30 pm. stay tuned . news at 7:30 pm. stay tuned. and a very good evening. >> yes, i'm not michelle dewberry. it's now 7:00. it's farage. and i'm richard tice. thank you christopher hope for that analysis. it is hard to keep up with what is going on. we can't even really know exactly how many members shapps tory mps are within this sort of mafia like sounding group of five families. for heaven's sake . we're trying to get all of .we're trying to get all of that throughout the evening . but that throughout the evening. but if the bulk of them abstain on like that, then we could be in for a bit of a shock this evening. anything could happen. first of all, before we get into my analyse all of my guests and analyse all of this , i'm to pass you to this, i'm going to pass you to polly middlehurst in the gb newsroom .

newsroom. >> richard, thank you and good evening to you . it is indeed an evening to you. it is indeed an eventful evening in westminster tonight. if you've been following our programmes, the prime minister facing the biggest test, some feel of his premiership tonight , eight mps premiership tonight, eight mps are voting on the second reading of his safety in rwanda . bill of his safety in rwanda. bill safety of rwanda. this is a live shot of the house of commons. if you're watching us on television today , we're waiting to see if today, we're waiting to see if the legislation will pass its first major hurdle . rishi sunak. first major hurdle. rishi sunak. of course, working all day to avert a rebellion. we hear breakfast meetings this morning . breakfast meetings this morning. that effort to persuade mps that were wavering began with bacon rolls in. number 10 at the light first light of day. but he is , first light of day. but he is, it must be said, facing considerable resistance from the right of the conservative party now, you may have heard just then richard tice talking about then richard tice talking about the five family is of the

conservative party who are considerably critical of this proposed bill. well, tory rebels have confirmed the bulk of them will abstain from tonight's vote. let's get some analysis on that now from our political edhon that now from our political editor, chris hope, who joins us from westminster. and who's been watching events for so, watching events for us. so, chris, if you could outline for us first, what the three us first, what are the three opfions us first, what are the three options bill? it options here for this bill? it can the government . it can can pass the government. it can stop vote or the vote can be stop the vote or the vote can be defeated. if you can go into the detail . detail of that. >> that's right. polly so this bill, this rwanda bill is intended to make rwanda deemed a safe country by our parliament to overrule concerns that judges have, that people who go there will not have their human rights respected. this course is designed to break the model of these people trafficking gangs, sending boats of migrants across across the english channel, and to making sure that if you do that, you risk going to rwanda and being processed and staying in rwanda. there's all sorts of checks and being being checks and balances being being revealed government last

revealed by the government last week to make sure that judges can be assured people who can be assured that people who are there have their rights are sent there have their rights respected. tonight, respected. now, tonight, that vote as we vote is taking place as we speak. there are three votes. the second one is the one to watch. that is the key. one. if this bill falls at second reading, a full, reading, there will be a full, full blown in the full blown crisis in the government. been government. it hasn't been defeated at reading at defeated at second reading at this stage since 1986. i do expect labour to try and table an opportunistic motion of no confidence in the government to try and force to create the difficulties and for the government going forward . and government going forward. and its rwanda plan will be in disarray if it sneaks through by maybe low tens, low 20s of mps as a majority, which i do expect actually . then then the mps on actually. then then the mps on the tory, right, the so—called five family groupings of different groupings on the tory, right around 100 of them, they will then try and amend it when it comes back to the to the commons in january , i must say, commons in january, i must say, as of the statement from mark

francois kwarteng seven has thrown a spanner in the works. he has announced that the bulk of the members of the five families which number 100 tory mps are going to abstain if more than 60 abstain, the bill will fall. so if you take francois at his word , the chairman of the his word, the chairman of the european research group and the spokesman for these five families, if that happens, this bill falls . and then we are in a bill falls. and then we are in a completely risky territory for this government, completely risky territory for this government , facing a no this government, facing a no confidence vote, possibly and possibly an early election if they lose that, that's unlikely by the way. no. mp if you're on the tory side, wants an election when so far behind in the when you're so far behind in the polls. very, very polls. but there's a very, very real feeling of jeopardy. polly here coming on the here in parliament coming on the fourth anniversary of the tory party's landslide wing landslide win in 2019. quite extraordinary . chris if that tory rebellion defeats this bill for the government . government. >> and don't forget, we're hearing, of course , from hearing, of course, from northern ireland that the dup were considering also voting

against the government on this matter . if against the government on this matter. if enough abstained, parliamentary rules dictate this same second reading of the bill can't be put through parliament again. but if it has to pass, if it if the government wants it to pass, it must be voted on again in the future. when will that be? >> well , that's a big if. the >> well, that's a big if. the rules are that if it's been defeated by a parliament, i don't think it can come back in the same form. they've got to find to present find a different way to present it. european research it. now, the european research group of tory mps pulled out its research it group of tory mps pulled out its resethumbs it group of tory mps pulled out its resethumbs down. it group of tory mps pulled out its resethumbs down. they it group of tory mps pulled out its resethumbs down. they said. it group of tory mps pulled out its resethumbs down. they said. this the thumbs down. they said. this bill is unamendable in its current by which means current form, by which it means to amend it to the position. the right want it. the european research of tory mps to research group of tory mps to get to the they want to get to the place they want to be. would change be. they would change the character much would character of it so much it would cease the same bill and cease to be the same bill and that's why i think there's a real question whether real question about whether it can that. the can survive even that. the problem got, of course, problem they've got, of course, polly, is if mr sunak, who's been mps today privately been telling mps today privately that they will it to that they will amend it to harden up, that goes ahead harden it up, if that goes ahead

and amend it, make it and they do amend it, make it almost firm it up. so it ignores even more the european courts and the human rights act that will really annoy those on the one nation caucus of the party, the left of the party, and they won't support it either. mr sunakis won't support it either. mr sunak is walking a very, very tight, narrow line, a tightrope if you will, between left and right . will he fall off? we're right. will he fall off? we're about to find out. >> well, we'll find out in the next 30 minutes or so. for the moment, chris hope in westminster, thank and i'll westminster, thank you. and i'll hand to richard hand you back now to richard tice . tice. >> welcome back, my friends , to >> welcome back, my friends, to farage on gb news at just after 7:00. well, i hope you're keeping up with all of that. i mean, it's all quite straightforward, it ? all straightforward, isn't it? all from christopher hope there. the simple answers to some extraordinary . the extraordinary questions. the house commons is filling up house of commons is filling up as as we wait to hear the first the first numbers on the amendment . the first numbers on the

amendment. but i'm joined in the studio by two great guests to sort of analyse and dig into this, frankly , complete chaos. this, frankly, complete chaos. it's just extraordinary. what is going on on my right matthew laza , very good to see you. you laza, very good to see you. you are a former head of broadcasting the labour party. you've been through all of this. absolutely. in in over many years. and i'm joined also by the immigration lawyer expert paul turner. great to see you again in the studio analysing this . you've said you're this. you've said before you're not surprised any this not surprised by any of this failing, but matthew, coming to you this complete you first, this is complete self—inflicted chaos. absolutely by self—inflicted chaos. absolutely by any stretch of the imagination. absolutely >> these are extraordinary scenes. basically, who's running britain tonight is rishi sunak, prime minister or is mark francois who thinks he's prime minister? literally have minister? the literally we have the being the prime minister being held hostage by, as you say, this mafia like one side on one side, and then he's got the left of the tory party on the other side and extremely isolated and he looks extremely isolated in the middle. and when you've got to the stage where people are asking who runs the country? who's really charge, who's really in charge, you've had right.

had it absolutely right. >> what the labour >> so what what would the labour party would keir party be doing? what would keir starmer french bent? starmer and his french bent? i mean, from laughing mean, apart from laughing into their or coffee or something their tea or coffee or something stronger, something stronger later certainly think later on, certainly i think after votes, what would they after the votes, what would they be look, i think what labour >> so look, i think what labour is thinking that if they do is thinking is that if they do lose it it will lose tonight, it will it will immediately motion of immediately put down a motion of no the government. no confidence in the government. now to now that is likely to fail because christopher said, because as christopher said, turkeys don't vote for christmas and we don't expect tory mps to vote an early election. but vote for an early election. but it highlight the british it will highlight to the british people they people that it's time they had the might be the obvious >> but that might be the obvious thing but there thing to do. but is there a smart reason actually for them to pause and to almost like have the threat that no confidence the threat of that no confidence vote them mighty, the threat of that no confidence vot example them mighty, the threat of that no confidence vot example , them mighty, the threat of that no confidence vot example , say, them mighty, the threat of that no confidence vot example , say, well, mighty, the threat of that no confidence vot example , say, well, weghty, the threat of that no confidence vot example , say, well, we need for example, say, well, we need to over christmas and sort to sit over christmas and sort of slightly rub your noses? >> yeah i think certainly i mean we are literally running up against the christmas countdown i suella braverman said i think suella braverman said that the house should sit over christmas. labour would christmas. i think labour would definitely agree that we need to sort out. we can't sort this mess out. we can't have government wait until sort this mess out. we can't have to iovernment wait until sort this mess out. we can't have to decideient wait until sort this mess out. we can't have to decide what'ait until sort this mess out. we can't have to decide what thejntil january to decide what the family said , i think that family as it said, i think that we should do. but ultimately

this the end of rishi sunak this is the end of rishi sunak as a prime minister. he's a lame duck on, if he duck from now on, even if he survives months if survives for six months and if he just wins it, even if he even if he just wins 5 votes. if he just wins 5 to 15 votes. because even if he wins tonight, he can't win tonight, win or lose votes, he can't lose the actual votes, he can't win because is win politically because he is now a lame duck because he's not running show. running the show. >> you're essentially saying it's lose lose for rishi it's a lose lose lose for rishi sunak, minister, sunak, the prime minister, prime minister possibly . minister in name only, possibly. paul minister in name only, possibly. paul, before paul, i've asked you before whether you were surprised by the supreme court's ruling a couple of weeks back on this , couple of weeks back on this, whether you were surprised that actually we had the immigration minister and lots of others with their concerns. i mean, this is not chaos , it's a legal car not only chaos, it's a legal car crash. it is carnage on the floor of the house of commons. >> it's carnage, oversight that is mad. it simply doesn't make any sense. i've looked at the treaty since it was published, i think last tuesday . and the think last tuesday. and the treaty itself is a work of fiction. it describes liliput land. in it. we have a rwandan system where people arrive ,

system where people arrive, they're given a house, they're given food , they get a free given food, they get a free interpreter, they get health care. that, they get care. on top of that, they get an appeal. they get a lawyer. given to them. get given to them. they get interpretation at the appeal. they independent judges . they get independent judges. >> yeah, but, paul, we have we have to spend £290 have committed to spend £290 million. i mean , we'd quite million. so, i mean, we'd quite like it to be quite comfortable there that money that there given all that money that we've that's not we've spent. i mean, that's not unreasonable, we've spent. i mean, that's not uanhatiable, has actually >> that money has actually gone to facilitate to the rwandans to facilitate the scheme. some people might use different well, it's a use a different well, it's a refurbish a hotel build refurbish a hotel and to build some and things. some homes and things. >> surely the >> i mean, surely the government's confident in in the competence of their partners in rwanda to look after these 20 million has gone. >> the rest of it has probably gone somewhere else into this. but one has to remember that the rwandans created their asylum appeal in 2018. and from appeal system in 2018. and from 2018 until i think today , they 2018 until i think today, they haven't managed to do a single appeal. haven't managed to do a single appeal . so they have appeal. so they have this wonderful thing on paper that looks like a fantastically fair and system. but in and compassionate system. but in short , it's just not there. so short, it's just not there. so that's all very well. >> but actually i've got here on

my a unhcr , the refugee my screen a unhcr, the refugee agency, their annual results report, 29 pages for rwanda , report, 29 pages for rwanda, 2022, complementing rwanda for how well they look after their 127,000 refugees from elsewhere in africa. so there seems to be a lot of contrary fictions as to what really is the situation in rwanda . rwanda. >> the key thing you've touched upon there, richard, is refugees from africa are now in rwanda. but surely a refugee is a refugee. >> i mean, they're all treated the same, seeking what i wish they were. >> but in rwanda there's about a 97% rejection rate for afghan or syrian refugees or eritrean or iranian refugees in the uk. the acceptance rate is 97. now they can't. it can't be bad luck that all the ones that go to rwanda have made up their claim and all the ones that come here are telling the truth. so there is a disconnect there seems. telling the truth. so there is a dis

that refugees from the who've come through the uk to rwanda will be treated any differently? >> if one looks at it, it's the african refugees that the unhcr say that rwanda is not mistreating . mistreating. >> it is. but if they're not mistreating they mistreating them, why would they mistreating them, why would they mistreat from mistreat refugees coming from the refugees coming >> well, the refugees coming from uk are not uk citizens. from the uk are not uk citizens. they're going to people they're going to be people broadly asylum broadly the most. the asylum producing countries uk producing countries in the uk are . now albania has are afghan. now albania has dropped off ever since the government implemented but government implemented this, but lots sudan and lots come from africa, sudan and others. the main asylum producing countries are afghan, syria , eritrea. so you think syria, eritrea. so you think rwanda would treat different refugees from different countries differently? well, the statistics show that 97% of those that come the those people that come from the middle east are refused, whereas they're accepted in united they're accepted in the united kingdom. that's kingdom. so that's that's i don't know why they perhaps don't know why they perhaps don't like them or for whatever reason. but looking into it, there seems to be a cultural issue. so various reports issue. so the various reports say where the rwandans just don't accept people from the middle east and so they reject them. and they're the ones that

probably get bused over. okay. >> matthew. if >> let's go back to matthew. if the conservative government loses tonight . right. what loses this tonight. right. what do you think their best option is ? is it to do they withdraw it is? is it to do they withdraw it and try and resubmit something or do they frankly, are they better actually just scrapping it and just letting the clock tick down to the election? >> think might be the >> i think that might be the most but most sensible option, but i don't the one they're don't think it's the one they're going to take. i think this isn't end if they lose isn't the end if they lose tonight rishi sunak has tonight because rishi sunak has staked political capital staked so much political capital when the when it's three words on the lectern, you know you can't lectern, you know that you can't there's no rowing back. however much circumstances might dictate, made a dictate, you've basically made a rod own you're rod for your own back and you're going to live. so he's going to have to live. so he's got to do something. he'll have to have to go into secret to i'll have to go into secret conclave these conclave with the family. these groups sort of groups of five groups of sort of right tory mps to try and right wing tory mps to try and find something that they will find something that they will find acceptable. i mean, let's just look at we heard about france. >> we know know, they've >> we know if we know, they've told us if they move literally aninch told us if they move literally an inch further to the right on this , then rwandan this, then the rwandan government we're against government may say we're against the law. i mean, so have they not us the truth? no.

>> i think h.- >> i think what you might find is that that whatever is is that is that whatever is agreed that keeps the family happy, the rwandan happy, doesn't keep the rwandan government happy, but then at least rishi's least that gives the rishi's only excuse is only possible excuse which is rwanda now no, which at rwanda now says no, which is at least of hands. least it's out of his hands. then we're out westminster's then we're out of westminster's hands few minutes to go. hands with a few minutes to go. >> you think this >> matthew, do you think this passes or not? >> it's think it's on >> i think it's i think it's on a edge because the a knife edge because the exemption, just. exemption, i think. yes, just. >> it pass? yes or >> paul, does it pass? yes or no? there we are , folks. no? yes. there we are, folks. you've heard it here from my two experts. both it'll experts. both think it'll i think i think you're a just there was a sort of a hesitant. yes we've got two years. i think it'll just pass. but anything could happen . all three of us could happen. all three of us could happen. all three of us could wrong . so don't go could be wrong. so don't go anywhere. we'll come straight back it's

gb news radio show . gb news radio show. >> welcome back, my friends, to gb news. yes, it's farage. i'm richard tice. and this is an extraordinary evening . we've extraordinary evening. we've just had the labour amendment has been rejected by the mps in

the house of commons. interestingly, there are 608 votes were cast in that first amendment. so you can see that the vast, vast bulk of the 650 mps are in the house of commons. there may be a few more that that abstained in that first amendment. so fascinating what happens as we prepare for happens now as we prepare for the crucial the absolute crux vote there. my previous two guests before the break, matthew and paul, they both think that it will just pass . yes, i think it will just pass. yes, i think it will just pass. yes, i think it will just pass. yes, i think it will just pass as well. i think there's a lot of politicking, but we could all be wrong. it's very, very close indeed. and i'm delighted. now to be joined for as first outing on gb news in the studio, dr. omar hammoud gallego, who you are currently a fellow of political science and public policy at the london school of economics. welcome to gb news. thank you. so through this process, i mean, there's all the sort of the technical shenanigans in the house of commons. and actually, i think to most people at home, this is

almost like a i mean, it's chaotic, it's mad. what does it all mean if we just take a step back for a second? what are we really talking about here? we've got a significant amount of illegal immigration coming into the united kingdom , and the united kingdom, and everybody knows that. that's got to stop . the prime minister has to stop. the prime minister has set his stall on stopping the boats, which is the bulk of illegal immigration. and he said this will stop the boats. but actually we've had two previous bills that they said would stop illegal immigration and essentially this chaos indicates people a lot of people don't think it will. where do we go from here? i mean, the united kingdom is in is in a pretty bad place in terms of trying to stop that basic objective. yes >> so, first of all, thanks for having me . i think the first having me. i think the first takeaway is even if this bill passes parliament, it's not going to work and it's not going

to work for, let's say, many two reasons. first, because even if we manage to send people to rwanda, as the government is claiming it will be able to do, it would be just very few. what does mean? means that does this mean? it means that probably people , even if probably many people, even if this happens , many people will this happens, many people will actually not have the information about this happening . so let me rephrase this . many . so let me rephrase this. many migrants actually don't get the information from where you think they get the information from. so often what happens is that they get their information from they get their information from the illegal smuggling groups , the illegal smuggling groups, from facebook, groups from instagram , and so many of them instagram, and so many of them will not know about interest, so they won't even know about the rwanda plan as a deterrent . rwanda plan as a deterrent. >> yes. and they won't know that it's few hundred. if they it's only a few hundred. if they if know exactly. if they did know exactly. >> they knew, we >> and even if they knew, we have that will have to assume that they will care about it enough to do something about it. i think something about it. and i think this mistake, because this is the big mistake, because often people will have many reasons to willing to come to

reasons to be willing to come to the a place where they the uk. it's a place where they might a network, they might might have a network, they might speak language, might speak the language, they might think, of it as think, i might think of it as a as a as a beacon of the rule of law, place where can law, a place where they can be safe even if there is a safe and so even if there is a risk, tiny risk that might be sent back to rwanda actually , sent back to rwanda actually, they might not care about it and they might not care about it and they will try their best. >> this the thing with >> and this is the thing with your expertise, you've your expertise, because you've worked united nations and worked at the united nations and you study international migration so migration and refugee policy. so you this around the world. you see this around the world. how chaotic on a sort of scale of 1 to 10 is this in the united kingdom relative to what you might be seeing in, let's say, france or germany or the united states, just to help people at home understand, are we the only ones this incompetent and chaotic ? chaotic? >> well, actually, the numbers in the united kingdom are actually smaller than in other european countries . so if you european countries. so if you want is not so bad here. but it has become worse, especially since 2020. and why is this? it is because since 2020 we have left the dublin regulation , left the dublin regulation, which actually allowed us to

send people back to their first country. but the numbers were tiny. >> they were exactly so they were being sent this way. so i'm not relevant, but it is. >> it is indeed because effectively you nowadays you can think , oh, well, if you make an think, oh, well, if you make an agreement with france or with many other european countries, we be able them we might be able to send them back stop these smuggling back and stop these smuggling gangs. we will able gangs. but we will not be able to we have really bad to because we have a really bad relationship with our european neighbours relationship with our european nei�*interesting. that's you're >> interesting. so that's you're putting on brexit, which that's something actually i actually don't accept. but nevertheless, i are massive i mean there are massive problems germany. yes, i mean there are massive proble got germany. yes, i mean there are massive proble got the germany. yes, i mean there are massive proble got the wholenany. yes, i mean there are massive proble got the whole carl. yes, we've got the whole carl heneghan agreement, which is , heneghan agreement, which is, which is under threat as well . which is under threat as well. stay with us, omar, because anything could go i'm going anything could go on. i'm going to to you, polly, in a to hand back to you, polly, in a few minutes. but omar, we're still looking this . still just looking at this. let's we'll keep going on let's just we'll keep going on this this issue of shannon, because shannon is the sort of the free movement across the most of the european union nafions. most of the european union nations . but most of the european union nations. but some countries most of the european union nations . but some countries now nations. but some countries now are are really worried about that. the impact of free movement of illegal migration

through those countries . they through those countries. they may have come across the mediterranean to italy and then spreading out and some obviously arriving. do you see that? actually, shannon itself may fail as part of the international illegal migration crisis , as it's a very good crisis, as it's a very good question . question. >> i hope it will not, but it might because of course , over might because of course, over the last few years, countries have actually raised temporary barriers to stop migratory flows for instance, france has done this with italy because italy did let many people through. but this is not so much the main point. the main point is how do we actually take this problem and solve it and add my personal opinion on this is that the rwanda plan is just a policy of mass distraction because the government knows , as the home government knows, as the home office knows, it won't the construction of the government? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> no, no, no. it's from its other failures and, you know, rishi sunak mean, this was rishi sunak i mean, this was suella and suella braverman policy and rishi now is trying to

rishi sunak now is trying to bnng rishi sunak now is trying to bring it forward . and even if bring it forward. and even if everyone knows , all experts know everyone knows, all experts know that not going to work, that it's not going to work, even it passes through the comments. >> it's bizarre, isn't it? now, actually , of the prime actually, of course, the prime minister, rishi sunak, has just entered commons. he's entered the commons. he's literally reputation literally staked his reputation on this, although of course it's not actually his policy. the rwanda policy, which is now being talked about for, i think a year and three quarters, was originally announced by the then prime boris johnson. originally announced by the then prime borisjohnson. he prime minister boris johnson. he actually , when he announced it, actually, when he announced it, he said will be subject to he said it will be subject to huge challenges. yes. so huge legal challenges. yes. so he and yet they've he knew. yes. and yet they've they've careered down this course of self—destruction . were course of self—destruction. were you surprised if you look back at that moment, then you're probably surprised. and are you surprised this has ended up in the chaos now? >> no, absolutely not. no, no, no. definitely not. and i don't think any legal scholar , any un think any legal scholar, any un official who works on human rights is surprised by this . rights is surprised by this. this is this was never supposed to work. there is a very good reason no other country on

reason why no other country on the planet has a like the planet has a policy like this, especially with a this, and especially with a country like rwanda, which often the conservative government forgets is a dictatorship which has been run by, you know, since 20 the year 2000, by paul kagame i >> -- >> yes, that's right. but i was just talking to paul turner, a previous guest, because i've got on my screen here a nine sorry, a 2022 report from the unhcr refugee agency. their annual results report, which is it's 29 pages. and i've been through it. it talks about how well they treat 127,000 refugees and actually and it's not saying it's perfect . yes. but it's it's perfect. yes. but it's saying they're making good progress with some of the key objective is regarding housing and education and employment and many would read that and say, well, actually , what's the well, actually, what's the problem? let me challenge that. >> if you go and check a human rights watch, so a reputable source when it comes to this is your own united nations that you used to work for , you must trust used to work for, you must trust them. let me me get there.

them. let me let me get there. let me get there. it is true that are treated well that refugees are treated well in , and there are many in rwanda, and there are many political of political reasons because of that but look at human that. but if you look at human rights violations overall, it's actually a country that still tortures and imprisons many of its political opponents. if you look at the last electoral results in rwanda 2017, in the presidential elections were won by paul kagame. again with 90 more than 98% of the votes. so it would be as if we are putting our hands and trusting the uk migration policy to a country thatis migration policy to a country that is not, you know, less reliable than or more reliable than maduro's venezuela. >> i think we can take it as read being, being polite about it, that if you get 98% of the votes, that's probably not a genuine open spirited democracy. i think we probably reasonably say that in the traditional sense of the word. but on the other side, they've got strong economic growth. things work there and they they want more

people to come and fill their jobs and things and to keep that growth going. i mean, some would say, , well, is a benign say, well, well, is it a benign dictatorship that's actually achieving results for citizens and people coming there ? and people coming there? >> well , a and people coming there? >> well, a dictatorship achieved good results until they don't, because you can never know what they will do next because they're not bound by the rule of law, which is what distinguishes a country like the united kingdom from a dictatorship like rwanda's. yes >> so exactly. you've got that difference there. and of course, what we're seeing now is the sort of democracy sort of the chaos of democracy where we innocence . we don't where we innocence. we don't know what's going. we've got so much debate and sort of division, but division with votes as opposed to a sense dissent with dictatorship. i guess that's the key difference we're talking about. i think any minute we are going to get the result of this critical vote. hopefully yeah. i'm going to throw now to polly middlehurst to give us this result of the

second vote. >> indeed . all eyes on >> indeed. all eyes on westminster tonight. richard as mps vote on prime minister rishi sunak's crucial rwanda plan on asylum seekers. let's hear the vote . the nos to the left . 269. vote. the nos to the left. 269. >> yes . is vote. the nos to the left. 269. >> yes. is there vote. the nos to the left. 269. >> yes . is there cheering >> yes. is there cheering a majority of 1870 in order to order the eyes to the right? >> 313. the noes to the left. 269 so the ayes have it. the ayes have it unlocked ? yes we ayes have it unlocked? yes we now come to the program motion to be moved formally . the to be moved formally. the question is, as on the order papen question is, as on the order paper, as many as are of that opinion say i country no

division fear the loving so there we have it in the house of commons. >> the ayes have it. 313 to 269. let's take you to westminster for analysis of that historic vote in the house of commons. just now. our political editor christopher hope is standing by. chris >> so a majority of their 44, i make it for the government. poly a majority of 44 for the government that is not as bad as it had appeared, but we have now got an idea of what the route forward is for the government. they will look at try and hardening this legislation, making it stronger, making it firmer track more firmer to try and track more right wingers, not to it right wingers, not to oppose it at the next this battle at the next stage. this battle goes the tory government. at the next stage. this battle goezheard the tory government. at the next stage. this battle goezheard thee tory government. at the next stage. this battle goezheard the strength vernment. you heard the strength of feeling mark tufnell feeling there from mark tufnell sua, the so—called five families of the tory right . sua, the so—called five families of the tory right. many sua, the so—called five families of the tory right . many 100 of the tory right. many 100 members like many of them members look like many of them have on their hands, will have sat on their hands, will work out how many abstentions there were shortly and bring that gb news viewers. it that to gb news viewers. it could as as looking at could be as many as looking at that 80 possibly abstentions on

the tory side, 70 or 80, certainly enough to overturn a majority if they turn their fire on the government. you heard mark francois in that statement about an hour, 45 minutes ago, which he then made very clear if the government doesn't move to harden up this legislation , the harden up this legislation, the right will vote against this bill at the third reading. so we are facing a difficult christmas, a christmas for the pm where he's got to bring round work out how he can make this more palatable to right of more palatable to the right of the stop the boats once the party to stop the boats once and all avoid losing the and for all and avoid losing the one the nation caucus, the 100 or so tory mps on the left who have they would support the have said they would support the this far they are this bill. so far they are warning him, don't it, warning him, don't make it, don't go any further in ignoring human rights laws. we can't support that . the pm done support that. the pm has done it. he's got past the first hurdle. it's been bruising . what hurdle. it's been bruising. what happens next now is absolutely vital for him. polly chris, just for our viewers who are tuning in to hear this culmination, if you like, of our coverage over the last hour or so , to be the last hour or so, to be

clear, the government has now won that rwanda vote. >> it's winning its flagship policy bill despite a number of abstentions. you said you still haven't done the maths yet, 313in favour, voting for the second reading of this bill, 269 against and your maths correct 44 we believe abstaining from that vote. so this of course, chris, all against the background of a looming general election eventually we haven't heard when that will be. what does this mean for rishi sunak's reputation ? yeah let's be clear. >> that's a majority of 44 for the government. the abstention figure is bigger than that. well, certainly weakens. i well, it's certainly weakens. i think the government is authority been tested . authority has been been tested. the majority has held up more than i thought. i could have thought. it could be down 20 thought. it could be down to 20 or that have been or tens. that would have been put the government on virtual life certainly life support. this is certainly a than many thought. a lot better than many thought. it i think, the right it shows, i think, the right have give a warning to have chosen to give a warning to the pm, mr sunak. he's got to act. listen to them. take it forward, deliver promise forward, deliver on that promise

of some areas of the of hardening some areas of the bill. we heard that from richard holton midday. that's holton on gb news midday. that's being said very clearly by the pm meetings today. pm in private meetings today. understand with with right wing tory from the so—called five tory mps from the so—called five families grouping of five different groups on the tory. right. he's got he's got to do more and all the goal essentially is to try and make these flights take off with people here illegally people arriving here illegally on to take them to on small boats to take them to rwanda, process them there. the idea that break the idea is that will break the break back of the the break the back of the of the business model used these business model used by these people smugglers. the hope is that get through. that they can get this through. 44 to work with. 44 is something to work with. it's near as disastrous it's nowhere near as disastrous as had has as it had looked when we heard earlier from mark francois kwarteng seven. he said then that the bulk of the five family of the of the family members of the of the tory right vote against tory right would vote against that's around 100 tory now that's around 100 tory mps. now that's around 100 tory mps. now that hasn't happened, but we do know it's going to be the bulk would not support it. that's abstentions. well it does look like there could be or 70 like there could be 60 or 70 abstentions. so it proved be abstentions. so it proved to be correct that. but how does

correct on that. but how does the pm win those round and stop those abstentions becoming votes against? challenge against? that's his challenge now polly hope now going forward. polly hope for the moment. >> thanks indeed . and >> thanks very much indeed. and the won. it's the government has won. it's rwanda vote. just to recap for you that's 313 to 269. a majority of 44. what those numbers mean, we'll come up in our analysis next with richard tice . tice. >> polly , thank you very much >> polly, thank you very much indeed. well, that's fascinating because i've just done some maths whilst christopher was talking there in the first amendment. that the labour amendment. it that the labour amendment that was lost, 608 mps voted as in this vote, 582 voted which by my maths means that 26 people who voted in the first vote abstained in the second vote. and i would hesitate a guess , a reasonable guess that guess, a reasonable guess that those were conservative mps delighted . still to be joined in delighted. still to be joined in the studio on my left by dr. omar hamoud gallego. i'll come back to you in a second, but also matthew laza matthew, you've got a lot of experience

in the politics around this. if my maths are about right and there's about extra 26 there's about an extra 26 abstentions, don't know abstentions, we don't know exactly many in the exactly how many mps are in the house of commons. what does that tell you? mean, we sort tell you? i mean, when we sort of had a quick beforehand , of had a quick guess beforehand, we all three said it would get through, but you didn't expect it to be quite by 44? >> no, i thought it would be more kind of 25, 30. so i mean, he's managed to a few round, he's managed to win a few round, but sense for labour, this but in a sense for labour, this is the best possible result because ain't yet. because it ain't over yet. because that we saw because remember that we saw mark on behalf mark francois speaking on behalf of or people are of the 100 or so people who are part fi, the fi part of these fi, the fi families, these five tribes of the on the right who the tory party on the right who have said that this was they're giving him a stay of execution. they abstain today giving him a stay of execution. thejthat abstain today giving him a stay of execution. thejthat they abstain today giving him a stay of execution. thejthat they would tain today giving him a stay of execution. thejthat they would potentially and that they would potentially still vote against. >> or is it the perfect result actually for the prime minister in that he's got his various groups, they've all had their say. all sort of done say. they've all sort of done their grandstanding. the their grandstanding. but at the end of day, got end of the day, he's got the numbers. can strong numbers. he can feel strong about and can say to about that and he can say to laboun about that and he can say to labour, now i've got the votes. this is what it in on behalf of

the country, this is what needs to happen. >> he's still >> but he's he's still got several parliamentary hurdles to get through. if this was the get through. so if this was the end process, rishi may be end of the process, rishi may be able go put able to go and put the i wouldn't even have the champagne able to go and put the i woulcstrongen have the champagne able to go and put the i woulcstrongen ithe�* the champagne able to go and put the i woulcstrongen ithe house|ampagne able to go and put the i woulcstrongen ithe house of1pagne quite strong to the house of lords, it? the lords, isn't it? but the problem, issue the house problem, the issue of the house of lords on this is that there's such feeling from from such feeling from the from the crossbenchers in particular, from those lawyers, from all those former lawyers, the the former the bishops and the former bishops if it wasn't bishops, that even if it wasn't for labour you'd for the labour party, you'd have trouble lords, trouble in the house of lords, whatever on an whatever the commons say on an issue so it really is issue like this. so it really is still going to be a tough battle for rishi anybody for rishi to get anybody on a plane before german plane before the german election, focus is election, which is his focus is not winning parliamentary election, which is his focus is not because1ing parliamentary election, which is his focus is not because the parliamentary election, which is his focus is not because the publicnentary votes because the public ultimately the political aficionado, i suspect i suspect he's looking literally day he's just looking literally day by by week. he's just looking literally day by but by week. he's just looking literally day by but actually week. he's just looking literally day by but actually he eek. he's just looking literally day by but actually he is. he's just looking literally day by but actually he is going to >> but actually he is going to get tonight. get some sleep tonight. >> sleep tonight. >> he'll get some sleep tonight. but not sure how sleep but i'm not sure how much sleep he's over christmas he's going to get over christmas because all going come he's going to get over christmas beca|ine all going come he's going to get over christmas beca|in the all going come he's going to get over christmas beca|in the newgoing come he's going to get over christmas beca|in the new year. come back in the new year. >> don't go anywhere. matthew, thank you much. omar thank you very much. omar that that's reasonably comprehensive. 44. minister 44. i think the prime minister can say this is the can legitimately say this is the will of the house, it's the will of the people through their

elected representatives. how do of the people through their electhink�*presentatives. how do of the people through their electhink the ;entatives. how do of the people through their electhink the wise:ives. how do of the people through their electhink the wise folk how do of the people through their electhink the wise folk in ow do of the people through their electhink the wise folk in the to you think the wise folk in the house of lords ? i say house of lords? i say optimistically , will respond to optimistically, will respond to that. i mean , it's a fair signal that. i mean, it's a fair signal when it goes to the house of lords. or do you think they might have a very, very different as matthew does? different view as matthew does? >> the house of lords >> probably the house of lords will much of that. will counteract much of that. the of lords cares about the house of lords cares about human rights. it cares about the rule . rule of law. >> care about human >> we all care about human rights the rule of law. rights and the rule of law. >> if i may, the >> well, if i if i may, the chairman of conservative chairman of the conservative party suggest a few party did seem to suggest a few weeks that the rule law weeks ago that the rule of law should is actually something that we you know, in this particular circumstance could actually get rid of. >> but this is all about the house of commons determining what the laws should be, and what the new laws should be, and we're to change our own we're entitled to change our own laws. absolutely. >> but as i said earlier, even if passes , as it has passed if this passes, as it has passed the even if it passes the the house, even if it passes the lords and we will see how that goes , it will then be challenged goes, it will then be challenged by the courts and again said even if it goes through the courts, be challenged by courts, it will be challenged by the european of human

the european court of human rights. and even if it goes through that, it's not going to work. of this just to say work. so all of this just to say this is a massive distraction andifs this is a massive distraction and it's not going to. bring and it's not going to. so bring us anywhere. >> summary, everybody >> i guess in summary, everybody with this noise all this with all this noise and all this confusion grandstanding, confusion and grandstanding, i think all my guests, not a single one of you think that anybody's going to be sent to rwanda soon. do you rwanda anytime soon. do you think any before the general election? >> oh, definitely not. >> oh, definitely not. >> definitely not. they're from omar matthew. >> absolutely not. maybe a few more home secretaries, maybe a few more home secretaries, a few more home secretaries might visit rwanda, but i don't think an asylum seeker is going to be sent meantime, the sent there. in the meantime, the cases and the things cases pile up and the things that should be done to stop the boats are not happening. so folks, it. folks, there we have it. >> won that >> the government has won that vote. and as matthew has just reminded me, we have sent three home to rwanda with home secretaries to rwanda with almost almost almost £300 million. it's almost 100 million per year. home secretary . i 100 million per year. home secretary. i mean, 100 million per year. home secretary . i mean, that in secretary. i mean, that in itself feels like a what the farage. but i have got a couple of amongst this of others amongst all this chaos and need little and madness. we need a little bit of levity, a little bit of

humour . here bit of levity, a little bit of humour. here we go. so in wales, where they've this 20 where they've introduced this 20 mile limit across much mile an hour limit across much of wales, here's thing, of wales, here's a thing, 466,000 welsh adults have signed the petition to get rid of this murder. that's more people than voted labour at the last assembly elections. it's 24% of all adults in wales. quite extraordinary . i all adults in wales. quite extraordinary. i think all adults in wales. quite extraordinary . i think that's extraordinary. i think that's the biggest ever petition. here's the other one. we're going to move talking in a moment about what's going on down in dubai with the cop 28. i just thought you'd be interested in this. and al gore, who obviously he was a vice president, presidential candidate. he's very, very strong on the need to stop climate change and to reduce emissions. quite keen on flying private jets. it seems he does have a 10,000 square foot home in tennessee that apparently guzzles more electricity in one year than the average american

family uses in 21 years. as his swimming pool would power six homes for a year. there we go, john kerry. i think we may have a picture of john kerry just to remind us oh , all, that doesn't remind us oh, all, that doesn't look like a passenger jet to me. look like a passengerjet to me. no it's a private jet. john kerry said it was a persistent lie that he had a private jet and it turned out his family , and it turned out his family, his wife owned the jet. his family sold their jet. but family sold theirjet. but anyway, he says he defended attendees at the recent davos summit using private jets, claiming they offset their emissions and are working hard to save the planet. well, my next guest, i'm delighted to be joined down the line is bob ward , who is the works at the he's the policy and communications director at the lsc, the grantham institute . and bob, grantham institute. and bob, a very good evening . i think you very good evening. i think you are down in dubai , aren't you? are down in dubai, aren't you? and i know you are very work ing, very hard to reduce emissions . jones is it true,

emissions. jones is it true, bob, that you're one of some 70,000 delegates down at cop 28 well, there are, i think the rumours are there are 70,000 people here associate with the cop, but a lot of those are people like business who are talking to each other about what the opportunities that they have associated with the transition to a cleaner economy. >> so it's good, good for business to be able to do that. and there are all the negotiating teams here for 197 countries. that's why you can't do it by zoom. richard people have to meet in person. if you have to meet in person. if you have 197 countries. it seems that graham stuart, who should have been leading the uk delegation , decided he had to go delegation, decided he had to go back for the vote in the house of uh, house of commons. so the uk we have, i suppose we have to laugh at the irony of that, don't we? >> i mean graham stuart, the uk climate minister, creating a whole load more emissions and

footprint back for a for footprint rushing back for a for a vote that they won by 44. anybody. i think he's coming back the couple of days back in the next couple of days yeah yeah well i mean the biggest irony is if you're worried about refugee numbers coming to the uk , you can be coming to the uk, you can be rest assured that climate change is going to drive even bigger numbers of refugees over the coming years. >> and the government's too busy deaung >> and the government's too busy dealing with the consequences of that to worry about tackling the underlying driving causes of it . underlying driving causes of it. but that's the biggest irony of all. >> in all seriousness, bob, i mean, these cop summits, they go on now every year. this, i think, is the 28th. we had the one in glasgow, which was two years ago, which was sort i think the prime minister then described it as a couple of minutes to midnight. described it as a couple of minutes to midnight . what are minutes to midnight. what are all these delegates do for the week or ten days of the summit? as you say, there's 196 countries. why do you need 70,000? i'm trying to do the maths quickly in my head. i

mean, it's quite a lot of delegates per country. bob yeah, well, not everybody has a large delegation of, of course developing countries have small delegations, but there are lots of technical issues that have to be discussed . be discussed. >> so they talk about, for instance , efforts to cut instance, efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions. they talk about the finance required. they talk about the need to adapt to the impacts of climate change. they talk about the loss and damage caused by those impacts of climate change that we cannot now avoid it. and what they have to do is negotiate a tax so the cops are consensus processes . between 100 and 97 processes. between 100 and 97 countries as far finding language that everybody agrees to is difficult and challenging . to is difficult and challenging. and at the moment, the conference was supposed to end at 11 am. this morning. local time. they are still negotiating now and will probably go on for another couple of days because they are they are deadlocked on key issues, particularly around the issue of the future use of

fossil fuels. >> there is a certain irony that lots of people have commented on here that you've here in the uk, bob, that you've got a essentially a climate summit in the heart of the main sort of petrostate region almost of the world, i think possibly with the exception of, of the us , where actually in a sense the big row is whether or to not try and aim to eradicate all fossil fuels or to reduce their use. i mean, it's a pretty fundamental difference. but without fossil fuels , bob, we're all heading to fuels, bob, we're all heading to the caves with candles as well. >> if you tried to stop using fossil fuels overnight. indeed you would. but remember at the moment, we people are dealing with high petrol and diesel pnces with high petrol and diesel prices in the uk. it's keeping inflation higher. that's because the supply of oil is controlled by opec, which is a cartel of countries including the united arab emirates. that cut production in order to boost oil pnces. production in order to boost oil prices . so production in order to boost oil prices. so you're production in order to boost oil prices . so you're not the world

prices. so you're not the world is not better off by being dependent on fossil fuels. it would be much better if we were on cheaper forms of clean british energy like wind and solar. british energy like wind and solar . and british energy like wind and solar. and indeed, that's true of most countries, because the majority of countries are are consumers of fossil fuels and not producers have to import them and are very much exposed as we are, to volatile prices. >> absolutely. well, bob, that's all the reasons why we should be using. we should be using our own fossil fuels, our own oil and in the north sea and our and gas in the north sea and our own oil where is the oil? >> we have oil, oil, the cheapest what we've got we've got shale gas , which is got shale gas, which is potentially a great source of energy . you can't power your car energy. you can't power your car with. no, we can't. >> but we can create cheap electricity like they enjoy in the united states. >> you have an electric car anyway, so i don't know what you're arguing about this because. >> because i'm bob, i've made a personal but but all personal choice. but but in all seriousness, states seriousness, the united states has much cheaper gas and

electricity because because they're using their own. they've got their own energy treasure. they're using it until other technologies come along . we technologies come along. we don't know how long that will be. surely we should be using our own treasure rather our own energy treasure rather than importing fossil than relying on importing fossil fuels elsewhere in the world. >> yeah, so you can make that argument. but we already know, richard, that if you want to fracking people's gardens, fracking people's back gardens, the of people don't the majority of people don't want that. in the uk. the majority of people don't want that. in the uk . so it's want that. in the uk. so it's either a question of either you're a democrat and you accept the will the people. and if the will of the people. and if people want fracking people don't want fracking around them, then the is, around them, then the truth is, bob, truth is they haven't bob, the truth is they haven't actually asked. bob, the truth is they haven't act|west asked. bob, the truth is they haven't act|west minster's d. bob, the truth is they haven't act|west minster's made that >> west minster's made that rather grand assumption in the same it assumed people same way it assumed people didn't want brexit the didn't want brexit and the people westminster what people told westminster what they want . they actually did want. >> now the situation is, >> now what the situation is, the moratorium that's currently in place on fracking is because the latest examination by the british geological survey found that they couldn't guarantee that they couldn't guarantee that you could frack without

potentially causing damage to nearby properties. >> that's a big debate. >> that's a big debate. >> we will continue. bob, when you when are you back from this great this great extravaganza that you've been enjoying in dubai? well it's a you it's a un negotiation, richard. >> it's not really a fun activity . i will be coming back activity. i will be coming back tomorrow . i expect that it will tomorrow. i expect that it will probably run into tomorrow, maybe thursday . and what they're maybe thursday. and what they're deciding here will be very important to all of your viewers, because climate change is a threat to everybody. >> i'll ask them, bob. that's that's for sure. thank you very much indeed, safe travels. much indeed, bob. safe travels. that's ward. at the cop that's bob ward. he's at the cop 28 summit in dubai with about 70,000 others. don't go anywhere , folks, because after the break, i'm going to be talking to enver solomon, who is the chief executive of the refugee council here. his latest thoughts on the rwanda debate. don't go anywhere.

gb news. welcome back to farage on gb news. well, it's been a action packed full on evening. the government has won its crucial vote on the rwanda bill by 44 votes. the prime minister, i think, will sleep much better than perhaps he feared earlier in the day or this evening. but still of course, that is not the end of it. it's got to get through the house of lords and there's still the risk of claims. i'm still joined in the studio by paul turner, immigration paul, studio by paul turner, immigration paul , just immigration lawyer paul, just can talk about how how can we just talk about how how may individual asylum seekers try to essentially continue these claims despite this bill, just quickly. >> well, i think what the new treaty allows people to make claims that are based on their individual circumstances so they can't say rwanda is not safe per se, but they will be able to say because of my potential mental health problems, because of the trauma that suffered, trauma that i've suffered, because special needs , because of my special needs, that i cannot go to rwanda because it's just not good enough. >> so my viewers will say, well,

that's that's obvious. that's what people have been doing to date. >> well, that's right. and the home office have actually published details that say that if someone minded resist if someone is minded to resist this , they can resist it for this, they can resist it for between 200 and 39 days and 420 days before they are actually removed. paul, thank you so much for your thoughts there. >> as a legal expert , another >> as a legal expert, another expert in matters, refugee related is my final guest of the show, enver solomon, chief executive of the refugee council . enver, thank you so much for joining us. you've heard the votes this evening . huge amounts votes this evening. huge amounts of noise and distraction and all of noise and distraction and all of this. what does it actually mean, enver, to my viewers and listeners and the state of the illegal immigration crisis in the united kingdom ? the united kingdom? >> well, what it means, richard, is refugees from countries such as afghanistan. and we know what's going on in afghanistan , what's going on in afghanistan, refugees from those countries will not be given a fair hearing in the uk. they'll be forced to be shipped to rwanda . and as

be shipped to rwanda. and as a nation, we've always given refugees a fair hearing when they've come here. having taken dangerous journeys and many refugees from afghanistan who've had to take those dangerous journeys have gone on to settle in the uk, to rebuild their lives, to contribute as law abiding citizens playing by the rules . rwanda means that won't rules. rwanda means that won't be allowed to do that . be allowed to do that. >> so enver, you by that answer , >> so enver, you by that answer, you assume that this will actually pass quite quickly and become people will become effective and people will go to rwanda . go to rwanda. >> oh, my assumption. listening to the prime minister is that he wants it to happen and he's going to do everything that he can possibly do to make it happen. i'm sure there will be other legal challenges, but i think that's the government's desire and the government will try and make it happen, will try its damnedest, in its words , to its damnedest, in its words, to get flights off the ground to rwanda. it won't work , of rwanda. it won't work, of course, and it won't stop people coming . and it is in effect coming. and it is in effect pushing refugees away from this

country who have contributed to this country over many and actually , i think almost the actually, i think almost the greatest consensus is what you've just observed, which is that it won't act as a deterrent , which is the prime minister's sort of key objective of . well, sort of key objective of. well, that's right. and i think it was particularly telling yesterday, richard , when the permanent richard, when the permanent secretary, the most senior official in the home office appeared before mps in parliament, and he was asked , parliament, and he was asked, will it act as a deterrent? and his answer was pretty clear. he said there's no evidence that it will and we can't say that. so that really is pretty damning, i think, when the top official in charge of delivering this policy for the prime minister says to mps that it won't act as a deterrent, i think that speaks volumes as it really does. >> enver, i mean, it's just extraordinary. we've sent them nearly £300 million and no one, frankly, apart from the prime minister, believes, and maybe that james cleverly thinks it's going work out well , i think

going to work out well, i think the policy is actually unworkable. >> i think officials in the home office know that . i think it office know that. i think it won't act as a deterrent . i won't act as a deterrent. i think it will fail. and i think this government, if it's serious about stopping the boats and look, i don't want people to be taking dangerous journeys . no, i taking dangerous journeys. no, i don't want people to be dying in the channel. but to do that, we need a different approach. the channel. but to do that, we nee fantastic ent approach. the channel. but to do that, we nee fantastic .nt approach. the channel. but to do that, we nee fantastic . enver,'oach. the channel. but to do that, we neefantastic . enver, thank you >> fantastic. enver, thank you very much. we're in agreement. none us this is going none of us think this is going to it's not going to act to work. it's not going to act as a deterrent. coming up, folks, jacob rees—mogg . but folks, it's jacob rees—mogg. but first, the all important weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good evening . welcome to your >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. dry and clearer weather will move into northwestern areas, bringing a frosty start to wednesday for some of us. but it's going to stay drizzly and quite dull across eastern areas. that says this of pressure that's this area of low pressure that's brought an unsettled day to day

pushes into east where it pushes into the east where it will through much of the will linger through much of the day. that mean we've day. that will mean that we've got heavy rain across got continue heavy rain across eastern through course eastern areas through the course of there's of the evening. there's still a rain warning for that rain warning in force for that across parts northeastern across parts of northeastern england and eastern scotland ahead that rain, though, ahead of that rain, though, across the south—east, we'll see quite cloud develop quite a lot of cloud develop overnight. so quite a murky night a different story, night here. a different story, though, north west though, further north and west where clear spells where we'll see clear spells allowing frost potentially allowing a frost and potentially some patches by tomorrow some icy patches by tomorrow morning. that clearer, morning. and then that clearer, dner morning. and then that clearer, drier weather becomes slightly more widespread the more widespread through the course , spreading course of wednesday, spreading into northern england into parts of northern england as wales and the as well as wales and the south—west of england as well. further east, though, it stays cloudy with drizzly rain through much day. a dull much of the day. so quite a dull and damp with drizzly rain and damp day with drizzly rain developing in southeast. by developing in the southeast. by the of the day and feeling the end of the day and feeling fairly cool well. in the fairly cool as well. in the northwest, though, it feel northwest, though, it will feel fairly in sunshine fairly pleasant in sunshine despite to the despite the colder start to the day . a chilly start in the day. a chilly start in the southeast on thursday morning, but soon cloud over as but it will soon cloud over as the next area of rain arrives. however, heaviest rain will however, the heaviest rain will be much more limited as that is

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channel only on gb news the people's channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. >> hello. good evening . it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight . and i've nation tonight. and i've literally hotfooted it from parliament to get here because the results are in and the government has won reasonably comfortably , but it has exposed comfortably, but it has exposed divisions to the left, right and centre and serious questions need to be asked about the direction of the tory party we've had criticism from the erg and new conservative factions as well as from the one nation group, many of whom ultimately voted with the government . but voted with the government. but where does it go from here, meanwhile, is the question of the safety of rwanda itself settled? now that the bill has been passed, there's certainly been passed, there's certainly been much criticism of the government's ruling legislating to declare rwanda safe. but it's entirely proper in our system of

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