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geopolitics. we're facing a more multipolar geopolitical situation. and the message this sends to other countries is that britain is a doormat. we're a walkover, we're mugged. we are. and you can get you can get away with walking all over us and we'll be totally impotent and unable anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a politicaling because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a political state acause we'll be totally impotent and unablin a political state of use we're in a political state of paralysis. and you can terrible message we don't have message as long as we don't have the biometric digital id system coming the horizon, you can coming over the horizon, you can see that. >> e“- see that. >> sadly, they're not >> anyway, sadly, they're not calling minister. calling the prime minister. >> handing over now >> so we're handing over now to tom and . emily as as is the last tom and. emily as as is the last as the last prime minister's question before recess. >> i know the whole house will want to join me in wishing you and all the house staff a very merry christmas happy new yeah >> and i know members will also want to join me in sending our warmest wishes to our armed forces, home and forces, both at home and stationed overseas. >> and our emergency services and those who will be and all those who will be working christmas to . and working over christmas to. and finally, i know everyone will want to me wishing mark
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want to join me in wishing mark drakeford all the best as he moves on from his many, many years devoted public service. years of devoted public service. mr morning i had mr speaker, this morning i had ministerial meetings with ministerial meetings with ministerial colleagues and others to my duties others in addition to my duties in this house, i shall have further such meetings later today. >> can concur with the >> can i concur with the comments of the prime minister about our armed forces? >> christmas and mark dreyfus and my constituent , >> christmas and mark dreyfus and my constituent, mr speaker, fred bates is 74. he has liver cancer and he is a victim of the contaminated blood products scandal . the prime minister had scandal. the prime minister had a chance to do right by fred last week but failed to do so and lost the vote in this house after half a century . fred after half a century. fred wishes to know when he and fellow survivors will be compensated and get justice. yes now, mr speaker , this was an now, mr speaker, this was an appalling tragedy and my thoughts remain with all those concerned , i absolutely concerned, i absolutely understand the strength of
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feeling on this. it was this government previously who set up the inquiry, which i participated in, and we fully understand need for action. understand the need for action. the government crucially the government has crucially already accepted the moral case for compensation and acknowledged that justice does need to be delivered for the victims. my right honourable friend, the minister for the cabinet office will the cabinet office will update the house next steps on the house on our next steps on the infected shortly . infected blood inquiry shortly. greg smith thank you , mr speakeh >> the tax cuts in the autumn statement were extremely welcome . yeah but in order to go further and to get the tax burden as low as it possibly can be, accurate and robust economic modelling is required . the modelling is required. the office of budget responsibility have been habitually wrong and we had the spectacle last week of the head of the obr saying that his latest forecast might be 30 billion out. so will my right hon . friend commit to right hon. friend commit to finding a better system of financial modelling so we can get taxes lower? yeah. yeah >> well, mr speaker , as my
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>> well, mr speaker, as my honourable friend knows, the obr has brought greater transparency and independence to the forecasting of which government policy is based. but he's right and it is required to produce an assessment of its accuracy of its fiscal and economic forecasts at least once a year. but crucially, as he acknowledged, thanks to our management of the economy, the fact we have halved fact that we have halved inflation, controlled borrowing, we delivered the we now have delivered the largest tax cuts in a generation, mr speaker, and they will benefit families up and down the country from january . down the country from january. the leader of the opposition , the leader of the opposition, keir starmer. >> thank you, mr speaker. yesterday we heard of the tragic death of a young man on the bibby stockholm. >> i know the whole house will want to send our deepest condolences to his family and friends. we must never let this happen again . friends. we must never let this happen again. i friends. we must never let this happen again . i would also like happen again. i would also like to mark the retirement of my colleague and friend mark drakeford, the first minister of wales . mark committed his life
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wales. mark committed his life to public service and lives his values every day , quietly and values every day, quietly and patiently . mark has been a titan patiently. mark has been a titan of labour and welsh politics and we thank him for his service and wish him well. mr we thank him for his service and wish him well . mr speaker, wish him well. mr speaker, christmas is a time of peace on earth and goodwill to all. has anyone told the tory party that mr . well, mr speaker, christmas. mr. well, mr speaker, christmas. >> mr speaker, christmas is also a time for families and under the conservative lives we do have a record number of them. mr speaker . speakeh >> mr speaker. but his point at the beginning of the year , i set the beginning of the year, i set out some priorities that this government would deliver for the british people . british people. >> and the course of this >> and over the course of this year have mr speaker, year we have mr speaker, inflation halved. mr speaker ,
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inflation halved. mr speaker, the economy, growing debt falling action on the longest waiters , the boats down by waiters, the boats down by a third. and crucially, as we heard from my honourable friend, tax cuts coming to help working families in the new year. >> mr speaker , he can spin it >> mr speaker, he can spin it all he likes, but the whole country can see that yet again. the tory party is in meltdown and everyone else is paying the price . now he's kicked the can. price. now he's kicked the can. he kicked the can down the road, but in the last week his his mps, his mps have said of him he's not capable enough. he's inexplicable . ernst he's inexplicable. ernst he's arrogant . a really bad arrogant. a really bad politician . well, they're politician. well, they're shouting, this is what they said . well, come on, come on. who's who was it who said, he's a really bad politician? hands up . really bad politician? hands up. they're shouting. but what about aaron experience? >> who was that ? or now there's
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>> who was that? or now there's got to be some hands for this. >> he's got to go to shy away. >> he's got to go to shy away. >> apparently, he's holding a christmas party next week. >> ha! order order i >> ha! order order! >> ha! order order! >> it's christmas. >> it's christmas. >> no, the. yeah, yeah, but you might not want the christmas present that i could give you, so please stop . so please stop. >> apparently, he's holding a christmas party next week . how's christmas party next week. how's the invite list? looking . the invite list? looking. >> mr speaker, i. i thank the honourable gentleman for all the comments. what i would say to him he should hear. he should heah he him he should hear. he should hear. he should hear what they have to say about him. mr speaker . speakeh >> right. do you want to be the first one? because it is
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christmas and i'm going to hear it. my constituents are going to have a christmas like everyone else. they want to know how their christmas is going to be affected. so what? less of it from all sides. keir starmer speaker they've obviously found the nativity. the donkey for their nativity. >> surge, the surge of three >> the surge, the surge of three wise men may take a little longer, but while they fight amongst themselves as a country out here that is not being governed where more than 100,000 people are paying hundreds more a month on their mortgages , a month on their mortgages, energy bills going back up in january, the economy shrink , january, the economy shrink, growing again, nhs waiting lists an all time high. doesn't he think the government would be better off fixing the messes they've already made? rather than scrambling to create new ones ? ones? >> mr speaker , he talks about >> mr speaker, he talks about governing and spent the first two questions talking about political tittle tattle. mr speakeh political tittle tattle. mr speaker, what a joke. >> what a joke. well, let's get on to the substance, mr speaker. >> let's get on to the substance. he mentioned the
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things. what is the news that we've heard the last we've just heard in the last week? well, the most week? well, what's the most important most important thing? the most important thing? the most important education, mr important thing is education, mr speakeh important thing is education, mr speaker, how we speaker, because that's how we spread and have country. and what have we learned? are the schools learned? where are the schools performing in united performing best in the united kingdom? speaker , kingdom? in england, mr speaker, thanks reforms of this thanks to the reforms of this conservative government rising up league tables, giving our up the league tables, giving our kids the start need , and kids the start they need, and where they plummeting? down where are they plummeting? down in labour run wales , he he talks in labour run wales, he he talks about children . about children. >> nearly 140 000 children in are going to be homeless this christmas . yes, that is more christmas. yes, that is more than ever before. that's a shocking state of affairs. and it should shame this government instead of more social housing. housebuilding is set to collapse . yes. instead of banning no fault evictions , thousands of fault evictions, thousands of families are at risk of homelessness . rather than homelessness. rather than indulging his backbenchers swanning around in their faction and their star chambers pretend to be members of the mafia. when
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is he going to get a grip and focus on the country ? mr focus on the country? mr speakeh focus on the country? mr speaker, just look at the facts. >> let's look at the facts actually, because rough sleeping , rough sleeping in this country is down by 35. mr speaker , since is down by 35. mr speaker, since its peak, thanks to the efforts of this government, there are hundreds of thousands of fewer children in poverty today thanks to this government. mr speaker. and when it comes to home building again, what is he doing? just have the data. doing? we just have the data. this last week, then the last year and almost record number of new homes delivered. mr speaker , new homes delivered. mr speaker, more than in any year of the last labour government . a last labour government. a hundred and 40,000 children homeless this christmas and he is utterly tone deaf . is utterly tone deaf. >> yes. and the rise in homelessness shows how these tory crisis merge and grow and damage the country families like the bradys in wiltshire , both the bradys in wiltshire, both parents working full time with two young children forced out of
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their home of 15 years by a no fault eviction and now living in their van or 11 year old liam walker homeless this christmas , walker homeless this christmas, he wrote a letter to santa saying, please, can i have a forever home? i don't want any new toys . i just want all my old new toys. i just want all my old toys out of storage. i just want us to be happy again. is there anything that could shame this government into putting the country first? then it surely this little boy here. >> mr speaker , if he really >> mr speaker, if he really cared about building homes. no, no, no , no, no, no, no. no, no, no, no, no, no. >> if he really cared about building homes when there was an opportunity in this house. >> mr speaker , in this house, to >> mr speaker, in this house, to back our plans to reform defective eu laws to unlock 100,000 new homes. mr speaker , 100,000 new homes. mr speaker, what did he do? what did he do?
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he went in front of the cameras and said one thing and came in here and blocked it. typical shameless opportunism . shameless opportunism. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> he hasn't finished as the world's tom moore tom moore. >> mr speaker, is that really his christmas message to liam ? his christmas message to liam? cocooned in his party management breakfast? he just can't see the country border order. >> mr cleverly, please. it's christmas . i >> mr cleverly, please. it's christmas. i want a >> mr cleverly, please. it's christmas . i want a little bit christmas. i want a little bit of silence and i'm. i'm going to get it one way or another. and that goes to each side. keir starmer cocooned in his party management breakfast, he just can't see the country in front of him and what they've done . of him and what they've done. >> i'll finish by thanking hard working families across britain who kept our country going. it's been an impossible , difficult been an impossible, difficult year for so many. i want to pay special tribute to our key workers, particularly those in the emergency services and those
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serving abroad in our forces who even at this time of year are doing the vital work of protecting their country . i wish protecting their country. i wish everyone , including the members everyone, including the members opposite , a very happy and opposite, a very happy and peaceful all new year. will the prime ministerjoin me? prime minister join me? >> prime ministerjoin me? >> prime minister i think i think, mr speaker, he he missed he he missed that. >> i paid tribute to our emergency workers at the beginning of session. beginning of the session. mr speaker . but beginning of the session. mr speaker. but let's see. no, because i think it is important because i think it is important because he talked about working families. speaker, families. of course, mr speaker, i want to make sure that we support families, and support working families, and that's what we're actually delivering, that's what we're actually delive|has to offer them is all he has to offer them is borrowing £28 billion a year, which all it will do is push up their mortgage rates and push up their mortgage rates and push up their taxes. meanwhile what have we done? delivered tax cuts for millions of working families, boosted the national living wage. mr speaker. boosted the national living wage. mr speaker . recruited wage. mr speaker. recruited 50,000 more nurses, 20,000 more police officers improved our schools. we've cut the cost of
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net zero for those working families. we've cut the boat crossings by a third and we've halved inflation and that's the difference. mr speaker, we're getting on and delivering for working britain never. >> stephen hammond thank you, mr speakeh >> as the world struggles to agree, the future of the 1.5 commitment in wimbledon, we're keen to do our bit. so to help my campaign to make ev charging access more widespread , can i access more widespread, can i ask my right honourable friend for two early christmas presents? will he speak to our right honourable friend the chancellor to ask him to look again at the unfair differential rates vat on public and rates of vat on public and private charging points ? and private charging points? and will ask our friends a right will he ask our friends a right honourable friend, the levelling up honourable friend, the levelling up secretary to look at the by laws that stop local councils making on street parking and charging more accessible ? charging more accessible? >> well, mr speaker, i'm happy to tell my honourable friend that the chancellor has already
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authorised over £2 billion of investment to support our transition to zero emission vehicles and we are well on track to reach 300,000 charging points by 2030. and i can also tell him that we will consult on amending the national planning policy framework to make sure that it prioritises the rollout of charging points on top of the funding of almost £400 million to support local authorities . to support local authorities. spread these out. so all our families have access to them when they need. >> snp leader stephen flynn . >> snp leader stephen flynn. >> snp leader stephen flynn. >> yeah, thank you , mr speaker. >> yeah, thank you, mr speaker. can the prime minister please share his christmas message for children being bombed in gaza this winter ? this winter? >> prime minister >> prime minister >> mr speaker, no . nobody wants >> mr speaker, no. nobody wants to see this conflict go on for a moment longer than necessary. we urgently need more humanitarian pauses to get all the hostages out and to get life saving aid into gaza to alleviate the suffering of the palestinian people and we have been
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consistent that we support what is a sustainable ceasefire, which means hamas must stop launching rockets into israel and release all the hostages . and release all the hostages. >> stephen flynn, mr speaker, of the current actions of the israeli government continue then and it is estimated that almost 1400 more children will die between now and christmas day . between now and christmas day. >> now, in the united nations last night, our friends and allies in france, in ireland, in canada and spain and in australia, they joined with 148 other nations to vote with courage, care and compassion for a ceasefire for the uk. they shamefully abstained. how can the prime minister possibly explain why . 153 nations are explain why. 153 nations are wrong ? yet westminster is right wrong? yet westminster is right here? mr speaker, as i've said consistently, we're deeply concerned about the devastating impact of the fighting in gaza
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on the civilian population . on the civilian population. >> too many people have lost their lives already, and this is something that we've stressed and i've stressed personally to prime minister netanyahu just and i've stressed personally to primweekiister netanyahu just and i've stressed personally to primweek .;ter netanyahu just and i've stressed personally to primweek . andletanyahu just and i've stressed personally to primweek . and what/ahu just and i've stressed personally to primweek . and what we! just and i've stressed personally to primweek . and what we are ;t and i've stressed personally to primweek . and what we are doing last week. and what we are doing practically is to get more aid into gaza. mr speaker, the foreign secretary is appointing a humanitarian coordinator a uk humanitarian coordinator and in my conversations last week with prime minister netanyahu, i pressed him on opening up the kerem shalom crossing so that more aid can flow in. and we're actively exploring the opportunity for maritime corridors, something that uk well placed to that the uk is well placed to lead. and i can give my lead. and i can give him my assurance that will work assurance that we will work night to get more aid to assurance that we will work night who to get more aid to assurance that we will work night who desperatelyfore aid to assurance that we will work night who desperately need id to assurance that we will work night who desperately need it to assurance that we will work night who desperately need it .o those who desperately need it. >> dr. neil hudson thank you, mr speaker . speakeh >> we expect our young folk to remain in education or training until they are 18. but many lack transport to get there . with the transport to get there. with the amazing headteacher of alston moor federation, jill jackson , i moor federation, jill jackson, i secured funding from the council to get her students college to get her students to college and press the council for a half million pound bursary scheme to extend travel more widely.
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extend youth travel more widely. but shouldn't have to do this but we shouldn't have to do this to secure equality of opportunity and true levelling up. will the prime minister look to mandate and support councils to mandate and support councils to provide post 16 transport? so all our young people in towns, cities and rural areas can reach their next stage in life ? their next stage in life? >> my honourable friend and the headteacher of altham all federation, jill jackson, have done a fantastic job in securing more funding and i wish her well. also, i believe. on her upcoming retirement as he knows our school travel policy ensures that no child is prevented from accessing education by a lack of transport. not only do we have home to school travel policies, but the 16 to 19 bursary fund can be used to support young people with transport costs. and more generally, we're taking action to keep bus fares capped at £2, mr speaker, but i'll happily make sure that the honourable friend gets a meeting with the relevant minister to discuss further. discuss his proposals further. >> mr speaker, the >> donaldson mr speaker, the prime minister will be aware of
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unionist concerns about the need to remove the irish sea border created by the protocol and that disrupts the uk's internal market. will the prime minister bnng market. will the prime minister bring forward legislation to amend the uk internal market act? and both guarantee and future proof northern ireland's unfettered access to the uk's internal market? in all scenarios ? scenarios? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> can i thank my right honourable friend and i recognise the need to do more in this area and i can confirm to him that the government does stand ready to legislate to protect northern ireland's integral place in the united kingdom and the uk internal market alongside an agreement to restore the executive . we can do restore the executive. we can do this at pace and i know my right honourable friend and his colleagues are working hard to achieve our nhs , our achieve that. our nhs, our police officers the most police officers and the most vulnerable in northern ireland need devolved government urgently and i think it's incumbent all of us to work incumbent on all of us to work day and night to help achieve that.
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>> e evans , 121 e evans ,121 mps that. >> evans , 121 mps from >> luke evans, 121 mps from across the house signed my open letter to supermarkets asking to have a buy british button online. >> i'm pleased to announce that last week morrisons were the first superman to market implement a buy british tab that gives consumers the choice to have home grown produce and also supports our farmers . so will supports our farmers. so will the prime ministerjoin my calls to ask other supermarkets to have the courage to make the change and follow suit ? change and follow suit? >> well, mr speaker, this government will always back our farmers and i welcome the work of my honourable friend and the national farmers union on this particular issue . we absolutely particular issue. we absolutely support calls for industry led action on this topic. i welcome the news about the buy british button by british button at morrisons and i can tell my friend that we will continue to encourage all retailers to do all they can to showcase the incredible food produced right here in the united kingdom. >> stephen timms thank you, mr
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speaker . speakeh >> the marriage plans of thousands of couples were dashed last week by the sudden announcement of a big increase in the salary requirement for a spouse visa . can the prime spouse visa. can the prime minister give any reassurance to those with very well—advanced marriage plans which appear now to have been scuppered and to families already in the uk who need to extend their stay, who won't comply with the new rules ? won't comply with the new rules? can he at least offer some transitional help for families, or does his party support for the family now only apply to the highly paid ? highly paid? >> well, mr speaker, we have a long standing principle that anyone bringing dependants to the uk must be able to support them financially . we should not them financially. we should not expect this to be at the taxpayer's expense and the threshold hasn't been raised in over a decade. it's right that we have now brought it in line with the median salary. the family immigration route, as he knows, does contain provision for exceptional circumstances .
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for exceptional circumstances. but more generally, it's also right , and i but more generally, it's also right, and i can tell him to look at transitional arrangements that they arrangements to ensure that they are home office are are fair and the home office are actively looking at this and will set out further information shortly. >> holly mumby—croft thank you, mr speaker. >> and i make no apology for raising once again the issue of steel . steel. >> we are at serious risk now of losing the ability to make virgin steel here in the uk. i know the government are working hard on this, but it is a matter of national security and we need the prime minister's leadership on this issue. what is he doing to ensure that we are able to make our own virgin steel and we do not lose it under his watch ? do not lose it under his watch? >> mr speaker, can i praise my honourable friends leadership for championing her local community, but also the steel industry in the uk and she is right to do so because it is an incredibly important part, not just of our local communities but our economy and security. but of our economy and security.
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and is right to put this and she is right to put this issue the agenda . we are issue on the agenda. we are committed to working with the steel a steel sector to secure a decarbonised future, supporting local economic growth and our levelling up agenda. that includes our commitment for major support with energy costs, but also access to hundreds of million pounds of grants to support energy efficiency and decarbonise ization. i obviously can't comment on conversations with companies , but with individual companies, but she can see our track record in working with celsa or working with either celsa or tata steel that we been tata steel that we have been able support our fantastic tata steel that we have been able industryrt our fantastic tata steel that we have been able industry and r fantastic tata steel that we have been able industry and willitastic tata steel that we have been able industry and will always steel industry and will always continue to do so . continue to do so. >> smith. >> smith. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> a rogue company has walked away from 30,000 tonnes of hazardous waste in lancaster, andifs hazardous waste in lancaster, and it's now been on fire for ten days. there are plumes of smoke covering our city. lancaster city council has been left to pick up the tab to and date they've spent £262,000 without government support and intervention. this fire will burn for several months. so will
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the prime minister support my local council with swift government support? yes >> can i thank the honourable member for raising this incredibly important question? i know she's been working alongside my honourable friend, the member for morecambe , on the member for morecambe, on this and can i also thank the emergency services in her constituency and my understanding is that lancaster city council, the environment agency and the uk fire and emergency services are working together to ensure that the health risks and environmental consequences are minimised. but i will ensure that the relevant minister understands the absolute urgent kc of the issue that she's raised , and i'll make that she's raised, and i'll make sure that she meets with them as soon as possible. >> jerome mayhew. >> jerome mayhew. >> mr speaker, some dental practices are taking advantage of post covid demand to take their nhs practices private, earning more money, but leaving behind those most in need. >> training a dentist costs. constituents in broadland more than £300,000. does my right
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honourable friend agree with me that if a dentist accepts public funding in order to qualify, they should be asked to commit to nhs dentistry for a number of years before going private. >> mr speaker, my honourable friend makes an excellent point and we are investing £3 billion into dentistry . the dentistry into dentistry. the dentistry contract with the nhs was reformed last year to improve access for patients and over around half of all treatment were delivered to non—paying adults and children. the number of adults has seen has gone up by 10. the number of children by 15. but my honourable friend is right and more needs to be done. and that's why the government will forward will be bringing forward the dentistry plan in due coui'se. >> course. >> i should have called over. >> i should have called over. >> thank you, speaker . >> thank you, mr speaker. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> there are 1212 days until christmas and hundreds of families in battersea will be worried not about being able to buy gifts for children, but whether can afford food and whether they can afford food and heat for their homes due to the tories cost of living crisis . tories cost of living crisis. >> over 4300 emergency food suppues >> over 4300 emergency food
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supplies were provided in battersea by the wandsworth foodbank this year and they have told me that they are bracing for the worst winter yet. so what is the prime minister doing to ensure families do not go cold and hungry this christmas ? cold and hungry this christmas? >> well, mr speaker , we care >> well, mr speaker, we care deeply about making sure those who are most vulnerable in our society get the support that they need through the winter. that's why we increase welfare by record amounts . earlier this by record amounts. earlier this yeah by record amounts. earlier this year, we supplemented that with cost of living payments of £900 for the most vulnerable. it's why we supported those with energy bills who need our help the most. pensioners in her constituency and elsewhere will receive to £300 alongside receive up to £300 alongside their winter fuel payment . and their winter fuel payment. and indeed that support lasts not just through the winter but into next because are deeply next year because we are deeply committed to helping who committed to helping those who need and government has need it. and this government has got a track record of delivering that morris thank you. thank >> ms morris thank you. thank you, speaker. you, mr speaker. >> the prime minister is rightly focussed on taking term focussed on taking long term decisions to improve the lives of people in this country.
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>> i make a suggestion >> so can i make a suggestion for mental health legislation ? for mental health legislation? >> is 40 years old and we made a manifesto commitment in 2017 and 2019 to reform the mental health act because we have people with learning disabilities and autism sectioned under the act, being kept an inappropriate accommodation for long periods . accommodation for long periods. we have people sectioned under that act not receiving the compassionate care that they deserve and in a sense are criminalised. and we have people sectioned under that act who are have their mental health condition resting akumatized by the act of sectioning . so would the act of sectioning. so would the act of sectioning. so would the prime minister in the absence of a bill in the king's speech, would the prime minister agree to meet with me and other like minded colleagues to discuss how we might be able to take forward reform of the mental health act? because it is simply isn't fit for the 21st century. mr
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>> well, can i thank my honourable friend for raising this important issue ? he's this important issue? he's absolutely right about the work that needs to be done, and i'm grateful to the joint committee on the draft mental health bill and intention is when and our intention is when parliamentary to parliamentary time allows to bnng parliamentary time allows to bring forward a bill, i'd be happy meet with him and happy to meet with him and colleagues discuss but colleagues to discuss this, but also just remind everyone also just to remind everyone that undertaking the that we are undertaking the largest expansion of mental health services in a generation £2.3 billion of extra funding by march of next year, increasing capital investment in mental health, urgent care centres and under the long term workforce plan , the largest expansion of plan, the largest expansion of the mental health workforce that we've ever seen in this country . we've ever seen in this country. >> spell thank you, mr >> spell out. thank you, mr speakeh >> spell out. thank you, mr speaker, rather than the headune speaker, rather than the headline chaos of his government thatis headline chaos of his government that is dominating the media, much more important to the public, business and organisations is their deeply unsatisfied factory day to day experience in engaging with this dysfunctional administration. as far as they can see, britain
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isn't working. when's he going to get a grip ? well mr speaker, to get a grip? well mr speaker, the most pressing issue facing families is the cost of living, which is why this government has delivered what it said , which delivered what it said, which was to halve inflation. >> mr speaker, not just that we are supplementing with are supplementing that with significant tax cuts, benefiting working january working families from january £450 for a typical person in work demonstrating that we are absolutely on the side of hard working families and this government cutting government is cutting their taxes a big quid. yeah. government is cutting their taxes a big quid. yeah . mr taxes a big quid. yeah. mr speakeh taxes a big quid. yeah. mr speaker, breast cancer survival rates have improved, but we need to go further on, harder to reach cancers. >> there a drop in in >> there is a drop in in parliament afternoon on parliament this afternoon on lobular breast cancer and the research need. research we need. >> right hon. >> could my right hon. >> could my right hon. >> or his excellent new >> friend or his excellent new secretary of state for health find busy diaries find time in their busy diaries to us? to join us? >> w- w— to join us? >> thank my right >> well, can i thank my right honourable for the work honourable friend for the work that he does on this specific and important happy and important issue? i'm happy to health to tell him. the health secretary, is secretary, i believe, is attending this afternoon's event to more about work and
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to hear more about its work and i can assure him that we're focussed on fighting cancer on all prevention on all fronts. prevention on diagnosis, treatment , research diagnosis, treatment, research and funding. we are making good progress, but there's always more we can do and i look forward to hearing him forward to hearing from him after afternoon's event . after this afternoon's event. >> thank you, mr speaker. while home secretary was in rwanda signing his new treaty, his department put out a contract to manage small boat arrival until 2030. at a £700 million cost to the taxpayer . doesn't this show the taxpayer. doesn't this show that even the home office doesn't think the minister's plan will work. >> no, sir. total mischaracterisation. mr speaker , mischaracterisation. mr speaker, of what was put out, which was an advert, not a commitment, but what i can say to the honourable lady, i'm glad that she now cares issue , not well i >> -- >> we've lam >> we've just been listening to prime minister's questions in the house of commons. the final
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prime minister's questions of term as mps break up for christmas recess at the end of this week. it felt like it, didn't it? it really did. >> it felt a bit like end of term, but joining us in the studio is conservative mp for bracknell, james saunders , who's bracknell, james saunders, who's been watching and listening to his colleagues. let's just ask your general perspective on that. there was quite a lot of joking at the start. >> yeah, i've been an mp for four years. huge privilege. >> i've been very concerned since day one that politics persons have to raise the bar of what they say and what they do. hence i was disappointed today by what i heard. i thought that keir starmer was very subjective . it was unnecessary to bring christmas in in the way that he did. felt very strongly did. i felt very strongly as though need insult though he didn't need to insult the prime minister and it got off wrong foot. you might off to the wrong foot. you might say is the last prime say that this is the last prime minister's questions of term, isn't it right, to sort of make those jokes about goodwill to all men, sort of have a bit of a lighter tone and then as as keir
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starmer did, those first three questions were sort of perhaps more irreverent, irrelevant or whatever. but then the final two or the final three were were more substantive . yeah, i agree more substantive. yeah, i agree with that. i think that pmqs is really important. it may be the only time that people in the uk and beyond see politics on tv . and beyond see politics on tv. they may it and therefore they may watch it and therefore we've got put a show. but we've got to put on a show. but it's got to be objective. it's got to about policy. it's got got to be about policy. it's got to about what country is to be about what the country is doing, what opposition are doing, what the opposition are doing, what the opposition are doing to hold the government to account. disappointed doing to hold the government to ac(thet. disappointed doing to hold the government to ac(the nature disappointed doing to hold the government to ac(the nature disquestioning today. >> i guess the conservative party have given keir starmer quite a lot to have a dig about, particularly the headlines this week have been all about turmoil at the heart of government turmoil within the party. the five families which were mentioned too, although that was by rishi sunak himself, actually the five families, different groups of conservatives who were thinking about voting against the government when it came to the government when it came to the rwanda bill. of course, rishi sunak did win that in the end and it has passed for now.
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so what i'm saying is that the conservative party have given him quite a lot to say , to joke about. >> well, i think the media loves a good story. we can see them yesterday in the gallery salivating for a story . great salivating for a story. great disappointment, of course, when the government won the bill getting through yesterday on the vote . but the important point to vote. but the important point to note for me is that yesterday note for me is that yesterday not a single conservative voted against the rwanda bill. we know that every single labour mp voted against the need to kerb illegal migration. the party actually my party a pretty unhed actually my party a pretty united on the need to stop the boats. of course, the issue is how we do that and that's what we get into legal speak and section 35 and the key issues that we've been discussing behind closed doors this week. >> it's interesting, though, that this this that there was almost this this sort up speculation that there was almost this this sort whetheer speculation that there was almost this this sort whetherthepeculation that there was almost this this sort whether the government about whether the government would only win the second reading of this bill by a small margin or whether it could even lead to a defeat, perhaps number
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10 played up to all that speculation by getting graham stewart to fly back from from the middle east and have all sorts of select committees cut short their research trips as well. >> was this a game of expectations management from number 10? maybe. i mean, i think the important thing for me, of course, is the fact that we've got important votes. it's important for ministers and for members of the government and for mps there. for other mps to be there. i think that's the first thing. for other mps to be there. i thin second the first thing. for other mps to be there. i thin second thing,'st thing. for other mps to be there. i thin second thing, of thing. for other mps to be there. i thin second thing, of course, is for other mps to be there. i thinfact)nd thing, of course, is for other mps to be there. i thinfact that hing, of course, is for other mps to be there. i thinfact that the i, of course, is for other mps to be there. i thinfact that the prime urse, is the fact that the prime minister and engaging all and number 10 were engaging all the way through this week and the way through this week and the there's been the weekend. there's been quite an important effort an important whipping effort to talk listen to talk to colleagues and listen to their but it was never their concerns, but it was never really it by 44 votes. >> i think i get the impression that the prime minister was genuinely worried. i mean, let's remember were reporting mark remember we were reporting mark francois portcullis francois outside portcullis house westminster saying that house in westminster saying that this bill was incomplete and that it should be dropped and revised. so the prime minister must have been worried, genuine early. >> i'm not sure. i mean, i'm the home office, so i see these things from the inside. i think
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the figures were always going to be good for us, but i think it's important with important to engage with colleagues. to do colleagues. we've agreed to do that. do now that. there's work to do now behind doors advance behind closed doors in advance of report stage and then of the report stage and then third reading. so i'm pretty comfortable that that that the right wing of the party have got a lot to play for. it's important to them. you've got to listen to them. their view is not without merit, but this is a government that listens, a government that listens, a government that listens, a government that does work together as a team. and we are a team it's very important team and it's very important that we get this bill through. but how much can actually change at stage, at the at report stage, at the committee stage in the house of commons? a lot people may commons? a lot of people may well voted last night on well have voted last night on the this is the basis that this bill is tightened up in the new year, particularly section four of the bill that refers to those individual circum stances where someone might be able to come claim to a court that they were ill or something and therefore don't go to rwanda . how how can don't go to rwanda. how how can that be tightened up at report stage ? well, i think it's about
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stage? well, i think it's about giving assurances. so for example, within section 35, the ability to appeal, it's quite important that people do have that right to appeal . why? that right to appeal. why? because rapist and because in law rapist and murderers and others have the right to appeal. got to right to appeal. so we've got to make that we do comply with make sure that we do comply with international it's international law. yes it's right to disapply elements of the hra. work needs the hra. that's work that needs to in due course, in my to be done in due course, in my view anyway. but i also think it's we do not leave it's right that we do not leave the european of the european court of human rights. line for the rights. it's a red line for the prime so what the prime minister. so what the prime minister. so what the prime minister. so what the prime minister has to do is to pitch the sand. pitch his market in the sand. he's get point where he's got to get to a point where he's comfortable that the bill goes it needs to stop goes as far as it needs to stop the boats, but by the same token, go too far that token, doesn't go too far that he loses left party, he loses the left of the party, one particular. one nation group in particular. it's also really important to get through lords. it's get it through the lords. it's important that people important that that people come with given tory with us and given that the tory party is united on the need to with us and given that the tory partythe jnited on the need to with us and given that the tory partythe boats on the need to with us and given that the tory partythe boats and he need to with us and given that the tory partythe boats and to need to with us and given that the tory partythe boats and to kerbi to stop the boats and to kerb illegal immigration action, it's really important, view , to really important, in my view, to get prime minister get behind the prime minister the as it stands the bill, as it stands disapplying sections two, disapplying sections one, two, three, four, five. >> sorry, one, two, three, six,
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seven, eight and nine of the human rights act. >> that's a vast, vast gutting of that 1998 tony blair legislation on. do you really believe the house of lords will accept that ? well, wait and see. accept that? well, wait and see. but the important thing is this the prime minister is very comfortable making bold decisions. he's done that. this is very bold, ambitious legislation which has gone through the house. yesterday at second reading. this is a statement of intent from the prime minister to get this sorted . labour party want open sorted. labour party want open borders . in fact, they haven't borders. in fact, they haven't yet voted in support of any measure to kerb illegal immigration. the tories want to kerb immigration. >> well, keir starmer has said that he is considering looking at some kind of scheme of funny old thing processing, funny old thing, very different from rwanda. if this bill is going rwanda. so if this bill is going to do the job and stop the boats and it will deal with those legal challenges , why are so legal challenges, why are so many of your colleagues so
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concerned that it won't do that? >> well , i concerned that it won't do that? >> well, i think that the preference for some of my colleagues is that they stop the right of appeal completely . colleagues is that they stop the right of appeal completely. i don't think that's workable . i don't think that's workable. i think there is a need for colleagues to see planes take off. i think they want to see the small boats stop overnight. if it was that easy, it would have been done before . this is have been done before. this is very difficult legally , it's very difficult legally, it's very difficult legally, it's very difficult legally, it's very difficult to make sure that we work within international law. we've got to make sure that we our international we honour our international commitments yes. the prime commitments. yes. so the prime minister and his team of lawyers for months and months and months have been over this. i'm have been poring over this. i'm absolutely that number absolutely confident that number 10 got the right solution . 10 has got the right solution. but it may well be that it doesn't everything doesn't deliver everything that colleagues want. but the important point for me is this politics is imperfect sport. politics is an imperfect sport. it's about compromise. you can't always what you want. and always have what you want. and that's part of being part of a team. well, james, we'll come back a moment. we're back to you in a moment. we're going cross now to going to cross now to westminster, political westminster, where our political edhoh westminster, where our political editor, is for us.
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>> us. >> and christopher, you were listening there to prime minister's questions , a fairly minister's questions, a fairly festive mood in the chamber. >> yeah , yes. >> yeah, yes. >> yeah, yes. >> there's an odd ending to keir starmer six questions. he urged the pm to wish everyone happy christmas and the pm didn't. i mean, he thinks he's he's got he got one over on labour on on his opponents forgive me behind him in party last night in the tory party last night that's rishi sunak i'm innocent use of the of the amphitheatre tom and emily when the sir keir starmer read out comments made anonymously to reporters and he said, hands up, who said the pm is an experienced hands up, who said he's really bad at polity x it was a jolly exchange, i think. not much learned. you did hear a bit of chat about migration there and that's clearly, clearly a huge issue still for the party as it faces these these crucially difficult times, trying to see whether they can amend the rwanda bill next month. the pm said that labouris next month. the pm said that labour is against this plan . now
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labour is against this plan. now clearly what's going to happen if as they go forward and geoffrey cox has told us, the former attorney general, there's now better than even chance of now a better than even chance of flights if flights taking off in may, if the can make this happen the tories can make this happen and plan . and and deliver the rwanda plan. and if flights start taking off this issue become harder and issue will become harder and harder labour they're harder for labour to say they're going plan. if it going to axe this plan. if it starts work. so clearly it's starts to work. so clearly it's a it's a rare a chance here. it's a rare chance for the pm in recent weeks, but he's on the up and he enjoyed that. pmqs, i believe. >> a different style >> chris quite a different style of from keir starmer of questioning from keir starmer from the previous week weeks a last week , very much pressing on last week, very much pressing on one issue. keir starmer dotting around yes, a few jokes, a few digs here and there, then moving on to homelessness. back to some immigration issues. it was it was very different . yeah i think was very different. yeah i think they weren't really sure what to ask about because i do know that the senior figures in the government were preparing for labour to table a no confidence vote in this government. >> had they lost last night and
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the whips weren't entirely sure because of that infected blood defeat last week, which was the first defeat of mr sunak's time as prime minister. that was not seen coming. that wasn't expected . the whips blame it on expected. the whips blame it on the fact that the actual attempt to bring bring round rebels only emerged 8 pm. last week. that meant that the whips weren't entirely sure they were going to win as well as they did until around yesterday. around lunchtime yesterday. with that majority confirmed last that 44 majority confirmed last night. i that had night. i think that labour had were looking at going really hard on disunity, a collapsing government, maybe even trying to stoke the flames by a performative attempt, a no confidence motion. that hasn't happened. confidence motion. that hasn't happened . so i think he was he happened. so i think he was he wasn't really clear what he was doing there and by the end it kind of dribbled out into nothing. sir keir starmer nothing. when sir keir starmer sat down and i certainly haven't seen himself being so seen a sunak himself being so full like that for full of beans like that for a few weeks now. >> yes. accused him of >> yes. he accused him of shameless it ? shameless opportunism. was it? >> he did. but, chris, i want to ask about vote last night. >> was it ever actually in doubt
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? >> 7- >> of 7— >> of course, ? >> of course, the 7 >> of course, the government does have a sizeable majority. they won by a sizeable majority . they won by a sizeable majority. was this in fact, this rarest of things in british politics, a competent communications operation from . number 10? operation from. number 10? >> well . >> well. >> well. >> well, it was in some doubt because when the erg i mean the erg, tom and emily came out on monday, the european research group saying this bill is not going to work. it's unamendable in order to deliver on the promise of stopping the boats. now, the reason why the erg put that lunchtime was that out on monday lunchtime was to give 36 hours to talk to the whips about it, and by the time they got to the following lunchtime yesterday lunchtime, it idea was it was clear that the idea was to abstain, not to not to try and vote against because the risk to the government mps are very aware, one senior mp told me over breakfast today that it wasn't really about small boats, it was about shoring up support for sunak. they know they've got to get through to next october,
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november when interest rates should have come down. the world was a better place. it's two years since the liz truss administration action widely, maybe unfairly , but widely maybe unfairly, but widely blamed for people's mortgages going up and they want to get one. they get that far. they can't go for a short election in the much as it was the spring. so as much as it was small boats was a big issue. the big majority night also big majority last night was also about futures . and about their own futures. and ensuring there's no election in short order. >> well, chris, thank you so much for bringing us all of that there from outside westminster. >> a really fascinating digest of what happened last night. interestingly we played a little clip speaking interestingly we played a little clip house speaking interestingly we played a little clip house of speaking interestingly we played a little clip house of commonsaking interestingly we played a little clip house of commons during in the house of commons during dunng in the house of commons during during interview , just as during that interview, just as sort of picture over the conversation and behind james cleverly's shoulder, almost by magic, james sunderland appeared on the green benches. you're still with us now as couldn't see all of you, though, could we? there that was probably a good thing. >> just your tie . >> just your tie. >> just your tie. >> but as as a as a as >> just your tie. >>butasasaasaasa >> just your tie. >> but as as a as a as a piece in the home office, having
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worked for both suella and now james cleverly, do you notice a difference in style or indeed in in results between these two different home secretaries ? different home secretaries? >> as a former military man , of >> as a former military man, of course you'd expect me to be very loyal and very discerning with what i say. i've got huge admiration and respect for both individuals . i enjoy working for individuals. i enjoy working for suella in 1213 months, working for her. she worked really hard. inever for her. she worked really hard. i never saw a cross word from her. i never saw her raise her voice get crossed with anybody very focussed , very laser like, very focussed, very laser like, very, very easy to work for and with james now 3 or 4 weeks in, he has made an immediate impact in the home office. he he has put this thing through the house yesterday. he's made the statement on legal migration. of course , he's had to deal with course, he's had to deal with the supreme court judgement. so, so what i see now is somebody who equally focussed , who is who is equally focussed, who is working with the team at the home delivering for home office and delivering for the uk. so no difference ,
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the uk. so no difference, different style, but in terms of output, both good operators, both, both clever people, i enjoy working for both, so i'm not going to be sort of stoking the fires at all. but i have huge admiration for both individuals, different style , individuals, different style, but i think james is the right man for the job now and i think he'll do a great job. of course, there bit of a clear out there was a bit of a clear out in your department, suella in your department, not suella was was let go by the prime was was was let go by the prime minister the immigration minister and the immigration minister and the immigration minister robert jenrick resigned. >> were never tempted >> were you never tempted to resign again? >> because as i put loyalty >> no, because as i put loyalty first, i was basically very happyin first, i was basically very happy in the home office. i still am. i enjoy the work. i want to see it through great ministers, great people and a great team of people working behind the scenes at the home office as well. good spads, of course , is brand new team of course, is a brand new team of spads with spads have come in with james. james his team in james has brought his team in from the foreign office. good people. and what i would say to you is that the quality of output amongst professional people in westminster is very
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good. work under real good. they work under real pressure. i think politicians work under extreme duress. most of the time they're under scrutiny. whole time they're scrutiny. the whole time they're attacked. whole attacked. the whole time we discussed earlier, the discussed this earlier, the vitriol, the abuse social discussed this earlier, the vitriol, in e abuse social discussed this earlier, the vitriol, in particular. social discussed this earlier, the vitriol, in particular. but ial discussed this earlier, the vitriol, in particular. but but my media in particular. but but my humble view is that politicians aren't in the main are decent. they're hard working on both sides of the house and work in good faith. >> james, do you not frustrate, though, at working within the home office ? it's about the fact home office? it's about the fact that we have record levels of legal migration extremely high levels of illegal migration, and under a conservative government, when people put their cross in the conservative box at an election, they don't expect that i >>i >> i couldn't agree more. i mean , >> i couldn't agree more. i mean i , >> i couldn't agree more. i mean , i was elected in 2019 on a manifesto promise to take back control of our borders , to control of our borders, to reduce migration. we have had the pandemic. we've lost people from the workforce. very sadly, people have gone home and we've got huge vacancies across the uk. so i think it's the right thing the short term to
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thing to do in the short term to increase the flow those increase the flow of those coming across. noting that of that 700,000 published that 700,000 figure published recently , the vast majority are recently, the vast majority are students student visas. we students on student visas. we have stopped dependents have now stopped dependents coming across with the students . coming across with the students. we've made clear commitment we've made a clear commitment a few weeks ago to lower legal migration. it is the right thing to . why? because public to do. why? because our public services bursting the services are bursting at the seams and we've got to you know, we've got to get back to the point where we, with audrey, due respect, we known for respect, we have known that for years that immigration has been too high for our public services and infrastructure. you are quite right. the figure was a surprise to many people . i think surprise to many people. i think that we've got work to do to bnng that we've got work to do to bring it down. and the home office is absolutely committed, as is the government, to bring down legal migration as is down legal migration as it is committed stopping illegal migration. >> well, we've got go to >> well, we've got to go to a break now. but james, thank you so through so much for talking us through those not just pmqs, those big issues, not just pmqs, but the inner workings but also the inner workings of the we'll be back the home office. we'll be back very
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mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> good afternoon, britain . >> good afternoon, britain. you're with us here on gb news and we're talking about prime minister's questions. it's been the last session of term and it's been a bit of a barney in the house of commons. yeah, it felt a bit like the end of term, particularly keir starmer's line of questioning . of questioning. >> it was a little all over the place, wasn't it? james and james is with us, conservative mp for bracknell, of course james sunderland . james sunderland. >> i'm still here. >> i'm still here. >> you are still here. >> you are still here. >> my voice and my voice is just about as well. so about holding out as well. so yeah, quite difficult yeah, it was quite a difficult pmqs to watch for me because i want to see objective questions, objective policies , and i think objective policies, and i think the personal stuff is completely irrelevant it irrelevant now in politics. it shouldn't be there all. shouldn't be there at all. politicians got to raise politicians have got to raise the bar in terms of what they say and what they do. so disappointed questioning, disappointed by the questioning, i keir starmer. i think, from keir starmer. well, you mentioned that questioning. >> ourselves of a >> let's remind ourselves of a little that now.
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little moment of that now. >> by a third. and >> boats down by a third. and crucially, we heard from crucially, as we heard from honourable cuts honourable friend tax cuts coming to working families coming to help working families in new year . in the new year. >> mr speaker, he can spin it all he likes, but the whole country can see that yet again. the tory party is in meltdown and everyone else is paying the price. now he's kicked the can. he kicked the can down the road , he kicked the can down the road, but in the last week his his mps, his mps have said of him he's not capable enough . he's he's not capable enough. he's inexperienced , he's arrogant, inexperienced, he's arrogant, a really bad politician . really bad politician. >> well, well , he's not wrong, >> well, well, he's not wrong, is he, james? because according to a yougov poll this morning published this morning, rishi sunak's popularity has fallen to a new record low . 70% of people a new record low. 70% of people have an unfavourable opinion of rishi sunak. why isn't he cutting through ? cutting through? >> well, i can only tell you what i know to be the case. i didn't know rishi at all well before he became the prime
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minister and i met him several times since then in every single engagement we've had together, he's been really decent, very friendly , very calm. he's in the friendly, very calm. he's in the detail. he reads his brief, he's very competent. and this is a guy that , you know, that is guy that, you know, that is working really hard for the benefit of the country. he's got the calls right, in my the big calls right, in my view, since he prime minister since he became prime minister and gradually and we're becoming gradually more conservative low tax, more conservative as a low tax, low conservative. that's low state conservative. that's a really thing . i want see really good thing. i want to see tax cuts next year, but but with the that got and it's the job that he's got and it's an almost impossible job, he's done a really good job. and i'm very happy supporting him. so you could that. you could say that. >> the data. the >> but look at the data. the labour party now consistent for almost two years, has been 20 points ahead in the polls. your party is heading for electoral oblivion next year. >> well , people say that oblivion next year. >> well, people say that and the polls are important , but of polls are important, but of course we haven't got an election tomorrow and a poll is simply a snapshot time . election tomorrow and a poll is simply a snapshot time. i'm simply a snapshot in time. i'm i'm confident that next i'm pretty confident that next year when rishi is five pledges his come to bear fruit and the
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economy turns and inflation continues to fall and waiting lists fall , i think we'll be lists fall, i think we'll be much better placed to go into an election and this is about responsible government . people responsible government. people can't have what they want all the time. this is about making tough decisions rishi sunak the time. this is about making tougprovenions rishi sunak the time. this is about making tougproven over rishi sunak the time. this is about making tougproven over the rishi sunak the time. this is about making tougproven over the last;hi sunak the time. this is about making tougproven over the last 12,sunak the time. this is about making tougproven over the last 12, 15nak has proven over the last 12, 15 months that he can make tough decisions. i'd also say to you that look at what's happened to the in scotland over the the snp in scotland over the last six, eight, nine months. you camper van and one you know, one camper van and one new leader. later they are floundered the floundered massively in the polls . labour are resurgent, of polls. labour are resurgent, of course, in scotland, but so are the conservatives . so a lot can the conservatives. so a lot can change in politics in a very short period of time. and i suppose judgement then with suppose your judgement then with regard to the timing of the next election would be later rather than sooner? yeah. i mean , one than sooner? yeah. i mean, one opfion than sooner? yeah. i mean, one option might be for england to win the euros next year and to come back and have an election with the harold wilson trick. >> is it may well be. >> is it may well be. >> is it may well be. >> i mean, i don't know is the
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honest answer, but my instinct is that he'll go long because i think longer goes, think that the longer he goes, the more improvement we'll see in terms of inflation in the economy. interest rates also coming would fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it would fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it ? would fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it ? soyuld fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it ? so i ld fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it? so i think fantastic, economy. interest rates also coming it? so i think he'llstic, economy. interest rates also coming it? so i think he'll go , wouldn't it? so i think he'll go when he's ready. but ultimately we need to be ready as a party. >> so perhaps october next year, november the latest. it could be, of course, is january 20th, 25. >> well, of course, boris showed, didn't he, in 2019 that december elections can be quite profitable and quite successful . profitable and quite successful. so who knows? it's a decision for him. it's in his gift as the prime minister. he'll make it when he's ready. but i can tell you for a fact that the tories will not be 20 points behind in the at the point of the election. >> well, james sunderland, thank you for talking us you so much for talking us through that and indeed indulging some speculation indulging in some speculation on election . election timing. >> well, there go. we've got >> well, there we go. we've got so more come in the next so much more to come in the next houh so much more to come in the next hour. of a change here. hour. a bit of a change here. we'll be discussing the biggest losers hollywood. any guess we'll be discussing the biggest loseithey hollywood. any guess we'll be discussing the biggest loseithey could/ood. any guess we'll be discussing the biggest
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gb news. >> good afternoon , britain. it >> good afternoon, britain. it is 1:00 on wednesday the 13th of december. coming up, is 1:00 on wednesday the 13th of december. coming up , fight for december. coming up, fight for survival . survival. >> rishi sunak popularity plunges to a record low in polling despite seeing off a much touted rwanda rebellion last night. he may have won the battle, but will he lose the war missing mum? >> the mystery deepens as the search for a 55 year old woman enters its fifth day. inaya lord disappeared near the river
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wensum in norwich last friday and has not been seen since. we're on the scene fall from grace . grace. >> prince harry and meghan have been crowned hollywood's biggest losers by showbiz bible hollywood reporter that news comes as donations to their charity fell by an astonishing $11 million . $11 million. >> tom, i do wonder if the conservatives are well , in conservatives are well, in a little bit of a state of denial when it comes to just how unpopular they are at the moment. >> do you know what i think i can ican >> do you know what i think i can i can totally see that. i think they were in a greater sense of denial around the time of their party conference when they kept talking about some outlier polls and say, look, we're building back, we're building we're be building back. we're going to be neck with starmer in neck and neck with starmer in months. i think the fact months. and i think the fact that that hasn't happened, i think more more do accept
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think more and more do accept the that we're in an the reality that we're in an election held tomorrow. they would go down to historic would go down to a historic loss, loss of. john, major loss, a loss of. john, major proportions. but but yes , i do proportions. but but yes, i do get the sense that there are some people who sort of hold hope, perhaps false hope that things haven't been so set in stone because i know this is just one poll. >> and, you know, they don't always reflect the truth . but always reflect the truth. but really, net favorability rating for rishi sunak minus 49. that's down by ten points just from late november. so despite all this talk of getting tough on migration , legal and illegal, migration, legal and illegal, it's just not going through to the voters. and i saw another poll suggesting that only 1% of people in this country believe that this rwanda bill is actually going to stop the boats. 1, no , there's a lot to boats. 1, no, there's a lot to talk about there. >> and much more to come as well. but that's after your headunes well. but that's after your headlines tatiana .
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headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you very much. 1:02. i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom. the unity of the conservative party was mocked dunng conservative party was mocked during the final prime minister's questions of the yeah minister's questions of the year. it's after 38 rebel tories decided to abstain from a vote on the rwanda bill last night, which passed with a majority of 44. labour leader sir keir starmer accused the government of being in a meltdown. but rishi sunak says the numbers on migration and the economy speak for themselves. >> down by a third. and crucially, as we heard from honourable friend, tax cuts coming to help working families in the new year. >> mr speaker, he can spin it all he likes, but the whole country can see that yet again. the tory party is in meltdown and everyone else is paying the price . now he's kicked the can. price. now he's kicked the can. he kicked the can down the road , he kicked the can down the road, but in the last week his his mps, his mps have said of him he's not capable enough . he's he's not capable enough. he's
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inexperienced , he's arrogant, inexperienced, he's arrogant, a really bad politician . well last really bad politician. well last night's results was a victory for the prime minister. >> but tory rebels have warned they'll vote against the draft rwanda law in the new year unless it's amended. they say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to the east african nation before the next election . former next election. former immigration minister robert jenrick , who resigned last week jenrick, who resigned last week over the bill, was among those to abstain . to abstain. >> what the public expect us to secure our borders. so i'll always fight for that and i'm pleased that it sounds as if there's a way forward where we can bill better and can make the bill better and you're going be to you're going to be able to persuade the prime minister to change the bill at all. well, i certainly shares my certainly hope so. he shares my determination fight determination to fight this issue one issue illegal migration is one of scourges of our of the great scourges of our time. doing untold damage time. it's doing untold damage to our country and we're determined to tackle it . determined to tackle it. >> former attorney general sir geoffrey cox says a careful approach needs to be taken on the next reading of the bill. >> if this bill is not allowed
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to pass substantially as it is, there will be a growing momentum for something that i personally would regret and be reluctant to contemplate, which would be withdrawal from the european convention on human rights. we are looking at a situation where the democratic house has already asserted in a quite muscular fashion its concept of its sovereignty . and i think we need sovereignty. and i think we need to reflect very carefully . to reflect very carefully. >> welsh first minister mark drakeford has confirmed he's stepping down and will resign in march next year. stepping down and will resign in march next year . the march next year. the announcement has triggered a contest to find his successor. he hopes the new leader will be in place before easter. the uk economy contracted faster than expected , with office for expected, with office for national statistics data showing a 0.3% fall in october. all three main sectors fell into negative territory for the first time since july , with services
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time since july, with services the biggest driver of the downturn. manufacturing and construction was affected by poor weather. chief secretary to the treasury laura trott says the treasury laura trott says the economy is turning a corner . the economy is turning a corner. >> well the pm's top priority this year has been to halve inflation an and as a result of that we've had to take some difficult decisions and the bank of has had to drive down of england has had to drive down inflation by tight monetary policy. that's interest policy. so that's high interest rates has an rates that inevitably has an impact on growth. but the economy is turning a corner because of these difficult decisions that we've made, decisions that we've made, decisions which have been opposed labour opposed by the labour party every the way. every single step of the way. but those difficult but because of those difficult decisions, able to do decisions, we've been able to do things like we did at the autumn statement a couple of weeks ago, reducing businesses and reducing taxes on businesses and reducing taxes on businesses and reducing working people reducing taxes on businesses and reduciican working people reducing taxes on businesses and reduciican focus working people reducing taxes on businesses and reduciican focus onrorking people reducing taxes on businesses and reduciican focus on growth people reducing taxes on businesses and reduciican focus on growth now le so we can focus on growth now and growing the economy . and growing the economy. >> james bulger's killer, jon venables has been denied parole with the panel ruling he still poses a threat to the public. he murdered the toddler when he was ten years old in 1993, when bowles was released on licence
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in july 2001 and recalled to prison in 2010 after indecent images of children were found on his computer , the government's his computer, the government's candidate for bbc chairman says gary lineker's criticism of the defence secretary appears to breach the corporation's social media guidelines. the former england footballer recently hit back at grant shapps after he questioned whether the match of the day host should be allowed to express his political views . to express his political views. the tv presenter was among a group of celebrities to sign a letter calling for the government its rwanda government to scrap its rwanda scheme. speaking mps at a scheme. speaking to mps at a pre—appointment hearing, samir shah said he didn't think it was helpful . helpful. >> l think this last one, the one that identified specific to politicians, seems to me , on the politicians, seems to me, on the face of it, a breach of those guidelines. >> and i imagine the bbc is looking into that now and the bbc is in favour of freedom of expression as it should be, but also impartial. also the duty to be impartial. now clear when it now it's very clear when it comes to news and current affairs and when it's not, but there is this grey area within
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which lineker sits and i do, which mr lineker sits and i do, and share frustration. and i share your frustration. i think i would certainly invite the director general and his team to find a solution to this because really we need to find a solution to this . solution to this. >> this is gb news across the uk , on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily now back to tom and. emily >> thanks, tatiana. now the prime minister, rishi sunak, was victorious last night, seeing off a potential rebellion by his own mps as his rwanda bill passed through the commons with a majority of 44. now despite every vote from tory mps being in support , some on the right of in support, some on the right of the party rebelled through abstention. >> however , the bill might see >> however, the bill might see amendments come the new year. >> yes, labour voted against the bill with a commitment to scrap the entire plan if they win the
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next election. whilst critics argue that millions allocated to rwanda could more effectively be used to combat people smuggling gangs. so as rishi sunak won this parliamentary parliamentary battle only to potentially lose the war, that's the question on. >> joining us now is political correspondent ant olivia utley . correspondent ant olivia utley. olivia, thank you for joining us. should i put that question to you ? so has rishi won the to you? so has rishi won the battle? but he may go on to lose the war. i think that's a pretty good way of putting it. >> last night felt like a bit of a pyrrhic victory for rishi sunak. a pyrrhic victory for rishi sunak . he looked pretty chipper sunak. he looked pretty chipper at the end of the proceedings, he get the second he managed to get the second reading vote through with a higher than expected majority in the commons, but it sounds reading between the lines as though he offered some sort of tweaks or concessions to the bill to placate those right wing backbenchers and to stop them voting against the bill. now time will tell what's going to
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happen with those concessions because of course the worry for rishi sunak is if he tweaks that bill too far, if he toughens it up much more than it already is, then there is a danger that those one nation mps , the 100 or those one nation mps, the 100 or so grouping of conservative mps on the left of the party, say, well, hang on a moment, we were prepared to vote for the bill in its unamended state, but with these tweaks that you've made, it strays too far away from international law for our liking. and then they could vote it down on their own. they might not be enough of them to or to end up overturning the bill, but with labour and we know that labouris with labour and we know that labour is going to absolutely decisive vote against it at every opportunity rishi sunak could see it being overturned. then of course, even if he does manage to get it through the commons, even if those 29 rebel mps on the tory right of the party accept the tweaks that rishi sunak makes and the one nafions rishi sunak makes and the one nations on the left of the party think that the bill is still
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okay. really for them. then he gets it, gets it into the house of lords. now the house of lords is much more left leaning than the of commons. only the house of commons. only a third peers are third of peers are conservatives. and we're conservatives. and what we're expecting to see in the house of lords big amendments to the lords is big amendments to the bill, which would then be sent lords is big amendments to the bill, over] would then be sent lords is big amendments to the bill, over to 'ould then be sent lords is big amendments to the bill, over to the! then be sent lords is big amendments to the bill, over to the house be sent lords is big amendments to the bill, over to the house of sent back over to the house of commons in what's known as parliamentary ping pong, we parliamentary ping pong, and we could a situation parliamentary ping pong, and we could the a situation parliamentary ping pong, and we could the bill a situation parliamentary ping pong, and we could the bill isa situation parliamentary ping pong, and we could the bill is prettytion parliamentary ping pong, and we could the bill is pretty much where the bill is pretty much unrecognisable to the legislation that rishi sunak put on the table yesterday . and that on the table yesterday. and that in would be very , very in itself would be very, very damaging to the prime minister's authority. >> it's such a curious process that it needs to take place. of course it could be quite a laborious and lengthy process, particularly if we get into ping pong, as you suggest . but pong, as you suggest. but crucially, the report stage, the committee stage of this bill is the next along that route. and we just were speaking to james sunderland, the at the home office , and he was pretty office, and he was pretty reticent to say what he would tweak with regard to this bill.
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have you heard any indication of what concessions might be being thought of with regard to what could happen at committee stage ? could happen at committee stage? >> well, it's a really interesting question. i have heard a rumour about the possible concessions that rishi sunak has might have made to those right wing conservative mps . essentially, the problem mps. essentially, the problem that those mps have with the bill is that although it declares rwanda a safe country in general , declares rwanda a safe country in general, meaning that the scheme as a whole could get up and running, it leaves some wiggle room for individual migrants to go to the courts and say that in their own person circumstances it would be dangerous for them to be deported to rwanda. now rishi sunak and the government have made the case over and over again over the few days again over the last few days that believe those that they believe those circumstances, mitigating circumstances, those mitigating circumstances, those mitigating circumstances, would be very few and between. it would be and far between. it would be women latest stages of women in the latest stages of pregnancy couldn't fly, or pregnancy who couldn't fly, or people with illnesses that couldn't be treated in rwanda. the at the moment is that the issue at the moment is that those don't really
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those rebels don't really believe him. they think that there all sorts of there will be all sorts of migrants who up taking their migrants who end up taking their cases courts they cases to the courts and they worry with of worry that with the help of those human rights lawyers, we could a situation could end up in a situation where very few migrants where very, very few migrants actually now, the actually get deported. now, the rumour i've heard is that rishi sunak might have been talking to conservative mps about the possibility of making it more explicit. exactly what mitigating circumstances migrants could use as a reason not to be deported to rwanda . so not to be deported to rwanda. so just sort of write into law more precisely the promise that he's making to them. but of course, the whole point of not explaining exactly the circumstances in which a migrant can make a complaint to the court is that under international human rights law, migrants are supposed to be allowed. people are supposed to be allowed to make their own cases. so essentially that would be the work that he's be undoing the work that he's done. and there is a danger that even that far for the even just going that far for the one nation is and the left of the party would say, hang on. the whole point of this was that
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the courts should be allowed to decide that that's human decide that that's a human right, people can go to the right, that people can go to the courts to talk about their own issues . so there is a real issues. so there is a real danger for rishi sunak here that he walks a very tight , thin he walks a very tight, thin tightrope and ends up falling down on one side or the other. >> thank you very much. olivia utley are political correspondent. of course it could be rishi sunak has could be that rishi sunak has made these with made these promises with absolutely intention of ever absolutely no intention of ever tweaking the to bill that effect going forward. well, we're hoping that they'll stick with it. >> it. will see lots of mps on >> we will see lots of mps on that bill committee. and even if rishi sunak doesn't want people to tweaks the to bring forward tweaks to the bill, will. to bring forward tweaks to the bill, i will. to bring forward tweaks to the bill, i think will. to bring forward tweaks to the bill, i think that will. to bring forward tweaks to the bill, i think that that will. to bring forward tweaks to the bill, i think that that particular and i think that that particular idea of delineating what what are the quote, core compelling evidence pieces that migrants will be able to use under section 41 b of the of the bill if they literally just said you can only appeal if you have some debilitating disease or are late term pregnant, that could that
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could significantly tighten up that loophole. >> it would. but would it suit all sides? that is the question. joining us now is matthew goodwin, professor of politics and relations . and international relations. thank you, matthew. you've been listening what we've been listening to what we've been talking with olivia, our talking about with olivia, our political can political correspondent. but can we out a little bit? i want we zoom out a little bit? i want to get view on the state of to get your view on the state of the as is. the conservative party as it is. what are they getting wrong ? what are they getting wrong? >> well, they're getting a lot of things wrong. >> emily. >> emily. >> if you look at the national polls, as we come to the end of 2023, there's still about 20 points adrift of labour. >> they're still in the low to mid 20s in the polls. >> they're course >> they're still on course for a historic and very heavy defeat . historic and very heavy defeat. now, if you look at the issues, it's not just immigration where they trail labour, it's also the economy. >> tax , crime, even brexit. >> tax, crime, even brexit. >> tax, crime, even brexit. >> all of these traditional conservative issues. as far as voters are concerned , they're voters are concerned, they're just looking at the conservative party and saying, well, you know, we don't really trust this party anymore. we think it's time for change westminster
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time for a change in westminster . argument that was that . and the argument that was that was made, emily, when rishi sunak was was first appointed prime minister, was that , you prime minister, was that, you know, he was the guy who was going to stabilise the party. he was who going get was a guy who was going to get it into a competitive it back into a competitive position. even his ratings position. but even his ratings this have taken another this week have taken another tumble. he's as unpopular out there in the country now as bofis there in the country now as boris johnson. so as we come to the end of the year, the short answer to your question is the conservative party's getting a lot of things wrong and voters want lot of things wrong and voters warthere's a theory that has >> there's a theory that has been promoted by some commentators that this is a problem of rishi sunak's own making by raising the salience of the issue of migration . and of the issue of migration. and there's an interesting split between on how conservative voters are and how labour voters are concerned . and around this are concerned. and around this issue, a split that didn't exist several years ago. but conservative 2019 voters much more concerned than labour intended voters. now, could it have been that rishi sunaks
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rhetoric on this is actually just pushing people not towards his party but away from it? >> well, i think firstly on the point about salience, let's just be absolutely clear. the reason we're all talking about immigration is not just because the conservative party is talking about immigration. we're talking about immigration. we're talking about immigration. we're talking about this issue because it's become a much more visible feature of our national life. we've got net legal migration at record highs. we've got illegal migration at their highest levels for 20 years. so to the commentators saying this was a mistake to raise the salience of the issue, the salience of the issue was raised by actual changes in the population. and in terms of the second aspect of the question, tom, you're right in the sense that labour voters does remain voters university graduates and professionals have over the last decade moved much more to the left on the issue of immigration. they're more supportive of immigration than, say , non—graduates working class say, non—graduates working class voters and older voters. and
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conservative voters, so that divide is certainly opening up. but but rishi sunak can't win the next election by appealing to labour voters and remainers. he can only really hold onto a majority by ensuring those 2019 conservatives turn out and vote. so it's a pipe dream to say , so it's a pipe dream to say, well, he should give up on those voters and go after people who aren't going vote aren't going to vote conservative anyway. if conservative anyway. and if anything, debate anything, i think this debate reflects beliefs reflects the ideological beliefs of the commentariat rather than the reality of what's going on out there in the country. >> and i guess asking to be marked and judged on your ability to stop the boats and then doing so is also going then not doing so is also going to be a massive issue for your popularity. very much popularity. thank you very much indeed. always indeed. matthew goodwin, always appreciate your professor appreciate your time. professor of politics and international relations. >> i think it is worth noting that throughout this period you've seen the slightest that throughout this period you' up seen the slightest that throughout this period you'up ofan the slightest that throughout this period you'up of reform he slightest that throughout this period you'up of reform ukslightest that throughout this period you'up of reform uk . ightest that throughout this period you'up of reform uk . ithtest that throughout this period you'up of reform uk . it used to tick up of reform uk. it used to be 4 5. now some polls put it be 4 or 5. now some polls put it on 11. perhaps. rishi sunaks rhetoric raising the salience of this, but also not delivering is
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pushing people to other parties on the right . on the right. >> and apparently only 50% of people know about the reform party . so there's that now are party. so there's that now are the sussexes change of mood? are the sussexes change of mood? are the sussexes change of mood? are the sussexes the biggest losers in hollywood? they've certainly beenin in hollywood? they've certainly been in the spotlight for numerous reasons. >> well, in the latest blow to the duo, it's been revealed that their charity, the archewell foundation, has suffered a massive £9 million drop in donations this year alone. >> right . let's speak to donations this year alone. >> right. let's speak to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, to make sense of this . walker, to make sense of this. cameron now, apparently this is the showbiz bible in hollywood that has made harry and meghan, prince harry and meghan their biggest losers . does prince harry and meghan their biggest losers. does this reflect the general mood in hollywood around these couples? this couple? >> well, i think if you look on the surface of their finances, which obviously we've found out in the last 24 hours or so, it's not looking great them, not looking great for them, to put mildly. not looking great for them, to put so mildly. not looking great for them, to put so justly. not looking great for them, to put so just to take you through >> so just to take you through a few of the figures here, so the 2021, they had $11 million of
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private donations 2022 that dropped to just $2 million worth of donations . of donations. >> and overall, this year, 2023, 2022 to 2023, they have lost around $600,000, not just because of donations, because of some other costs associated with running their foundation. that's their charity arm of the prince and the duke and duchess of sussex. even which is clearly not very good on the surface. however, a source and i'm slightly sceptical , but a source slightly sceptical, but a source has told the american publication tmz, that it doesn't actually matter that they've made more than half $1 million worth of loss this year because they've got $8 million in the bank. so i don't think they're going go bankrupt any time going to go bankrupt any time soon. nonetheless, not soon. but nonetheless, it's not a look for them. a very good look for them. >> no, it's not a very good look for them. cameron and then being voted or described as biggest
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losers , it's not going to be losers, it's not going to be very good for the fragile egos that are prince harry and meghan , is it? >> no. and i think if you look back to end game, that's omid scobie , a biography of, well, scobie, a biography of, well, not biography. look at the not biography. a look at the royal which obviously royal family which was obviously very harry and meghan. we very pro harry and meghan. we spoke that lot last spoke about that a lot last week, didn't we? their popularity has not gone up after that book. if anything, it's, i think, backfire on the duke and duchess of sussex . of course, duchess of sussex. of course, they maintain that they have never taken part in that particular book, but then they've been even more criticised yesterday for releasing a very glossy one minute video of all the charity work they've done over the last yeah work they've done over the last year, including meeting veterans , supporting veterans, packing bags for school girls in nigeria and supporting afghanistan , and supporting afghanistan, women who've been relocated to the us. but the timing of the video being released has been called into question. now it could just be a complete coincidence that that the video was released just hours after
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the princess of wales released a video of herself and her three children helping to pack bags at a baby bank. the cynic in me and perhaps what's been reported widely on social media and online, is that it was deliberately timed. this video from the sussexes to upstage or at least attempt to upstage the princess of wales and her three children in as i said, it could just be a coincidence. but their last video and their last report on their charity work came out in january of this year. so by that standard, we shouldn't really have been expecting this report until next month. >> thanks , cameron. goodness me. >> thanks, cameron. goodness me. thanks cameron. cameron walker, our royal correspondent. all these subtle little tips you wouldn't notice unless people like cameron walker were scurrying away looking at what the reading between those lines. do you know what i feel a bit mean sticking boot in. mean sticking the boot in. i mean, you know, nominated mean, being, you know, nominated to be the biggest in to be the biggest loser in hollywood isn't isn't very nice, is it? for anyone ? even if you
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is it? for anyone? even if you deserve it? >> i don't know if you're if you're if you're making $100 million netflix and $20 million from netflix and $20 million from netflix and $20 million from netflix and $20 million from your book and $20 million from your book and $20 million wherever million from spotify or wherever it was, i wouldn't be. is it tiny violin? >> but imagine if you were voted biggest at gb news or biggest loser at gb news or something. well, it's be nice if gb news were paying me $140 million. >> i don't think i'd mind. but anyway, coming up, the search continues norwich for a mum continues in norwich for a mum of three gaynor lord, who's been missing since friday, will be live on scene after this live on the scene after this short
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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. good afternoon , britain. news. good afternoon, britain. it's 1:26 and news. good afternoon, britain. it's1:26 and the news. good afternoon, britain. it's 1:26 and the search news. good afternoon, britain. it's1:26 and the search is continuing for the mum of three gaynor lord after she was last seen at 2:45 pm. on friday. >> her belongings were found scattered in various locations throughout a local park and in the river. wensum well, her white work shirt, yellow tank top and jewellery were found spread out at different sites across the city centre park, whilst her olive coloured coat was found in the water on the scene for us is gb news national reporter theo chikomba theo. it's been an. thank you for joining us. it's been a number of days now that the police have been searching for this missing woman . what's the latest on woman. what's the latest on their investigation . their investigation. >> yes. well, a very good
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afternoon to you both. >> it's now the fifth day that she has been missing. she was reported missing on friday evening and as you've just mentioned, on friday afternoon, she was seen leaving the city centre here in norwich , leaving centre here in norwich, leaving the department store that she worked in. and in the last few days, several of her belongings have been found . and on tuesday , have been found. and on tuesday, further belongings were found. and here when some parked just outside of the city centre, the police began an to search this area so that was yesterday and specialist dive team is currently on the scene at the moment . i don't know if you can moment. i don't know if you can see just over my right shoulder there is a white tent there and police have been going around that area trying to look for something which you can see from the distance and just across the road to my right, there's a specialist dive team . further, specialist dive team. further, members of them are just over there and they've been going in
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and out of the park. but of course, it's a concern for her family. she is a mother , 55 year family. she is a mother, 55 year old. they'll be looking and looking and wondering what has happened and looking for further updates from the police. now, norfolk police is police command under wes hornigold said are working hypothesis at the moment is that gaynor is in the water. that's what we're working towards. they also went on to say it's a missing person inquiry. there's no evidence at the moment to suggest that there's any third party involvement here. this is a significant operation in terms of searching both the park and the waterways . searching water the waterways. searching water is quite challenging. and what i've seen since i've been here is a boat going up and down the river here, which runs through norwich. but of course for the moment, investigations here continue . well, theo, thank you continue. well, theo, thank you for bringing us the very latest on the investigation . we'll be on the investigation. we'll be back with you in the next hour to see if that investigation
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action is turning up with anything. but, of course , a anything. but, of course, a desperately sad situation . desperately sad situation. >> yes. so joining us now is former met police detective peter bleksley . peter, are you peter bleksley. peter, are you there ? fantastic now, what there? fantastic now, what happensin there? fantastic now, what happens in these sorts of situations is from a police policing perspective of a woman last seen on friday in a park , last seen on friday in a park, items of her clothing found in various locations and what might be going on in the investigation right now . right now. >> well, as we know, the police are deploying lots of assets here. they've used helicopters . here. they've used helicopters. they've they've used drones . they've they've used drones. and, of course, underwater search teams with sonar equipment . search teams with sonar equipment. so many echoes of the tragic disappearance of nicola bulley back in february of this yeah bulley back in february of this year, where items were also left by the water side. we know that in that case, the police came in
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for some quite severe criticism about how they dealt with personal information and information that they released to the media. and i'm sure that norfolk constabulary will have learnt lessons from lancashire police. one would expect it. so perhaps that's why they're being quite cautious in release of information , whilst all the time information, whilst all the time they're primary objective will be to find gaynor lord. >> it seems that they're working hypothesis , as theo chikomba was hypothesis, as theo chikomba was telling us, is that very sadly gaynor lord's body seems to be in the water. they're searching the water. i would expect that at this point few people are holding out much hope that that that she's still alive . that she's still alive. >> yes. although i'm sure the relatives , her three children relatives, her three children and all those who knew and loved
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her are clinging to the hope that there may be some other explanation that she may be alive . and we've already heard alive. and we've already heard pleas from the children urging her to make contact and return home. however, perhaps unlikely, that option may be. it is, of course , is a deeply, deeply course, is a deeply, deeply worrying time for the family. and the police will be feeling the pressure. theo, your reporter is up there, of course. and there are other media outlets that have sent reporters there. so their work is very much under the microscope , much under the microscope, subject to scrutiny . and i'm subject to scrutiny. and i'm sure that norfolk police will be keen to avoid the kind of criticism that their colleagues from lancashire came in for. >> absolutely , they will. thank >> absolutely, they will. thank you very much indeed. peter bleksley former met police detective . thank you very much detective. thank you very much for your time . for your time. >> well, coming up, we'll have our expert panel on some of the day's controversial day's most controversial headunes day's most controversial headlines from oxford. students being encouraged to use a! to
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write their essays to young people too nervous to order their own food. all of that to come. but first, it's your news headunes come. but first, it's your news headlines with tatiana . headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you . 132 i'm >> tom, thank you. 132 i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. the unity of the conservative party was mocked during the final prime minister's questions of the year. it's after 38 rebel tories decided to abstain from a vote on the rwanda bill last night, which passed with a majority of 44. labour leader sir keir starmer accused the government of being in meltdown, but rishi sunak accessed the numbers on migration and the economy speak for themselves . economy speak for themselves. well, last night's result was a victory for the prime minister, but tory rebels have warned they'll vote against the draft rwanda law in the new year unless it's amended. they say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to the east african nation before the next election . welsh first
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isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . good afternoon, six till 930. good afternoon, britain. it's 1:38. six till 930. good afternoon, britain. it's1:38. and it was a fiery prime minister's questions today after rishi sunaks victory on the rwanda bill last night that says labour leader sir keir starmer accused the prime minister's party of being in meltdown and that the country was paying the price for it. >> yes, so joining us now is clive betts , labour mp for clive betts, labour mp for sheffield south east. clive thank you very much for joining us on the show. now it was a bit of an odd pmqs from keir starmer. we noted a very different style of questioning from the usual. it seemed as
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though he wasn't really able to land a solid punch as of course the bill did pass last night. >> well, passing is one description. >> it got through its first stage and what we saw last night, of course, was a situation station where many tory mps said they only voted for it because they're going to try and strengthen it and toughen it up when it gets into committee stage, which is the next part of the parliamentary process . as other tory mps said , process. as other tory mps said, well actually the bill was just as tough as it possibly could be without them not voting for it. so i think the prime minister's got real problems because he's got real problems because he's got different mps deciding to vote for it for completely different and all different reasons and that's all going unstuck when you going to come unstuck when you get amendments at committee get into amendments at committee stage after christmas . you know, stage after christmas. you know, this hasn't been resolved . the this hasn't been resolved. the tories are still at war with each other and that was going to continue. >> it'll be fascinating to see that committee stage process
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roll out . but just to focus in roll out. but just to focus in on prime minister's questions today , your leader, the leader today, your leader, the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer, said that rishi sunak was a really bad politician in experienced, arrogant and then used one of his questions to ask is anyone going to come to his christmas party? was that a good use of parliamentary time ? use of parliamentary time? >> i think he was pointing out that all those comments had actually been made by conservative mps showing that the disarray and lack of harmony in the party opposite . and i in the party opposite. and i think he was referring to the various parties that the prime minister has been trying to throw to woo his mps to come and support him. so yes, there was relevance. there but drawing attention to the internal fight within the conservative party, the criticisms that their own mps are making of their own prime minister because in the end the electorate knows that you need a united party, united
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government to run this country at a very difficult time. and we simply haven't got that. clive >> keir starmer has suggested that he would look and consider the offshore processing to deal with the issue of illegal immigration. would you support that. immigration. would you support that . at that. at >> i think we have to look at all options. look, nobody wants illegal immigration. one of the real challenges we've got is when people are here illegally and certainly if they claim for asylum and then have it turned down, they often aren't sent back to the country of origin or another safe country that should be done. the government isn't robust in that. and course , robust in that. and of course, what a massive what we have is a massive backlog of people claiming asylum . i'm over 150,000 still asylum. i'm over 150,000 still to be processed , all of whom are to be processed, all of whom are in accommodation , often at the in accommodation, often at the taxpayer's expense . you know, taxpayer's expense. you know, all that has to be looked at. nobody wants people who are here illegally to remain. that's absolutely of a certain . absolutely of a certain. >> well, clive betts, thank you so much for your perspective, live from westminster. after the
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final prime minister's questions of parliamentary term . of parliamentary term. >> now we have our panel with us. joining us now to discuss this, associate comment editor at the telegraph, mumtaz ahmed and writer and broadcaster candice holdsworth . thank you candice holdsworth. thank you very much. mutaz let's start with you . i have a feeling that with you. i have a feeling that the majority of the british pubuc the majority of the british public trust neither the conservatives nor labour when it comes to the thorny issue of immigration. >> yes, well, look, there was a time at the end of boris johnson's government when it was a get to friday project , it a get to friday project, it would literally celebrate getting to the end of the week. >> this has become a get to february government. obviously, the one nation group will reject any . it's even if the any amendment. it's even if the amendments pass, it's not clear that supreme will that the supreme court will tolerate it. parliamentary sovereignty is assumed and the supreme court might decide that parliament payment isn't actually totally sovereign . and actually totally sovereign. and how would they decide that? because ultimately the system of government that works , even even
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government that works, even even though tony blair set up the supreme court to sit outside of parliament when the law lords used sit in the house of used to sit in the house of lords as many argue they still should, their job is to interpret the law passed by politicians, not to make law the themselves have to. many people got it into their heads that we're sort of living in the american system where there's some sort of constitution that sits above parliament. but surely the surely parliament is the ultimate is law ultimate arbiter of what is law in country. in this country. >> the problem it's never >> the problem is it's never been so it's been properly tested, so it's assumed . assumed. >> and because both institutions , parliament and the supreme court and the law lords before that sort of behaved way that sort of behaved in a way where were reluctant to where they were reluctant to enter that territory . if it's enter that territory. if it's decided that this is the decided now that this is the moment to test it, the supreme court could decide that parliament sovereign, parliament isn't sovereign, parliament isn't sovereign, parliament doesn't the parliament doesn't have the ability to contravene international law in the way that they think they might be. parliament can't decide what the facts the supreme facts are because the supreme court that the facts are court decide that the facts are that rwanda's not safe. you
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can't just declare that you have to prove it. and if that happens, it's that has never happenedin happens, it's that has never happened in the history of this country. would be an country. it would be an unprecedented constitutional crisis would bring crisis and it would bring down the that's the government. well, that's a fascinating to focus on fascinating thing to focus on because we've been focusing, of course, the parliament course, on the parliament machinations the machinations of whether the house abide by house of lords will abide by this, amendments will this, whether amendments will get through. but actually, i suppose, can to suppose, candice, we can turn to you. i courts another you. i the courts are another element in all of this. >> they are, and especially in a time we're in now where time that we're in now where you're a of you're not seeing a lot of cross—party support things . cross—party support on things. so you at prisoners voting so you look at prisoners voting rights instance, know rights for instance, and i know david is now mentioned david cameron is now mentioned this. there was a lot of support across labour and across. >> this is when parliament struck down the echr demanding that prisoners vote. struck down the echr demanding tha they oners vote. struck down the echr demanding tha they did's vote. struck down the echr demanding tha they did well, vote. struck down the echr demanding tha they did well, you»te. struck down the echr demanding tha they did well, you know , it's funny. >> it's the way these of >> it's the way these sort of things work. >> the echr backed down. >> the echr sort of backed down. >> the echr sort of backed down. >> they backed off. they realised, know what, the uk realised, you know what, the uk parliament, they parliament, this is what they want. they're representative of the going stop the people. we're going to stop this is what david this now and this is what david cameron to achieve cameron is trying to achieve right in right now, but he's in a complete different political
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context. i mean , we've got an context. i mean, we've got an election coming up . labour's not election coming up. labour's not going to do anything that's going to do anything that's going conservatives. going to help the conservatives. in mess over rwanda in fact, this mess over rwanda helps actually , because it helps them actually, because it makes the conservatives look like they can't deliver on their promises. >> yes. and there has been some pretty polling pretty damning polling out recently, least morning recently, not least this morning , rishi is just , that shows rishi sunak is just as unpopular as an individual, as unpopular as an individual, as a leader, as when boris johnson was on his on his last day. so that's not very good at all. should we move on to something a little odd story that we found in the in the papers today and this is i don't know what this tells us about younger generations because it doesn't sink through to me. here we go. a third of gen z and millennials are too nervous to order their own food in restaurants, study . restaurants, study. >> emily i'm surprised that you said gen z gen gen z. oh, this is one of my bugbears, sir. >> i'm terribly sorry. it is. gen z. i just hear gen z, you do hear americans say it all the
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time . time. >> it's no, i don't know. i'm a i'm a z supremacist when it comes to that. that sort of language. i don't know . comes to that. that sort of language. i don't know. hearing z irks me . z irks me. >> gosh, no. that makes me sound like i'm a russian supporter. >> didn't it? >> didn't it? >> that's just just a little bit. so what do you make of this? why do you think that young people are so nervous that they it difficult to order they find it difficult to order their food in restaurants? their own food in restaurants? >> regrettably, i at the >> regrettably, i am at the older end gen z, and so we older end of gen z, and so we are still gen z, i'm still gen i >> -- >> what are you defining as the cut off here? well, it's 97, isn't it ? anyone born after 97 isn't it? anyone born after 97 isn't it? anyone born after 97 is gen z, right? i've always referred to myself as a millennial . yeah. millennial. yeah. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, i'm not sure about that . i thought the most interesting thing is that if we are to believe it and i think it's probably a bit exaggerated , probably a bit exaggerated, these young people are pathologically overly jealous and envious because it seems they're not afraid to order food because there are some sweet little recluses. they're afraid
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to order food because they're worried that someone else might order a better dish. and that's not a good sign for this generation. surely not. i think so. but and i think it has to do with sort of instagram and showing off your life has become about getting something to show it off rather than to enjoy it. >> oh, my goodness. so could that be the reason, candace, that be the reason, candace, that that younger people don't want to find it difficult to order food? >> well, it's interesting because there's a lot of demographers. and the one that i really neil howe, he's really like, neil howe, he's done research into done a lot of research into millennials z, and he millennials and gen z, and he said one of the things, the defining characteristics about that they are that generation is they are quite by social quite bound by social convention. so do think convention. so they do think a lot about what others think about and like the whole about them. and like the whole concept of fomo and we use social media lot, it's social media a lot, it's the technology that millennials created social we're a created, social media. we're a lot individual ballistic lot less individual ballistic than gen x or baby boomers, so maybe that's playing into it a little bit. but i mean, i'm a geriatric millennial, so when i see stuff like that, i'm just
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like, what is your problem? there is nothing wrong with ordering a meal. i feel completely from it and completely alienated from it and i it's true. think, you i think it's true. i think, you know, broad brush know, these are broad brush strokes paint these strokes that we paint with these sort generation archetypes. strokes that we paint with these sorti generation archetypes. strokes that we paint with these sorti mean, ration archetypes. strokes that we paint with these sorti mean, if:ion archetypes. strokes that we paint with these sort i mean, if you archetypes. strokes that we paint with these sorti mean, if you like ztypes. strokes that we paint with these sorti mean, if you like mees. strokes that we paint with these sorti mean, if you like me and but i mean, if you like me and you were born 1980s, you you were born in the 1980s, you probably a different probably have quite a different outlook who's maybe probably have quite a different outlookthe who's maybe probably have quite a different outlookthe year who's maybe probably have quite a different outlookthe year 2000. who's maybe born in the year 2000. >> and this is so interesting because very often go, because very often people go, oh, millennials, as if that refers some refers to all young people. some millennials now millennials are in their 40s now andifs millennials are in their 40s now and it's just about approaching and it's just about approaching and it's just about approaching and it does because i think millennials starts at 1980, but but it is interesting that perhaps the difference between millennial and z is that generation z have grown up with technology in front of them. they probably don't remember a time when mcdonald's didn't have self—service checkouts and perhaps it is that difference of not needing to interact with humans. that means people are afraid of it. >> well, i thought that this initially referred to people with eating disorders who might find bit anxiety inducing find it a bit anxiety inducing when there's all the calories on the it doesn't the menu, but it doesn't seem to be that. is about
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be about that. this is about menu anxiety. and one of the things that they might be things that they say might be causing this is worrying about not able to pronounce not being able to pronounce items on the menu. apparently, that common cause of that is a common cause of concern. and yes , food, jealousy concern. and yes, food, jealousy as well . so are we just should as well. so are we just should some young people , would they some young people, would they prefer to just stay in their rooms and just, you know , keep rooms and just, you know, keep away from any kind of inter action that could possibly go awkwardly ? awkwardly? >> i can understand not pronouncing names , by the way, i pronouncing names, by the way, i don't go to french restaurants. i just bother because of i just don't bother because of that reason. for that reason. oh my goodness. >> you have to give a go. >> you have to give it a go. it's a form of probably i'm a bit bigoted, but isn't that half the fun, though, as slightly obnoxious englishman, you sort of go and set up and we say, paris, not paris. >> it's just point to a number 42 so you don't have to pronounce it. >> it's my, my, my. >>— >> it's my, my, my. >> part of the problem i am part. you're part of the problem. >> my grandfather thought he could speak just about any language earth by language in this earth by turning saying english turning up and saying english slowly loudly , perhaps
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slowly and loudly, but perhaps we've lost that sense of confidence . i don't know. confidence. i don't know. >> yes, but maybe that is. i mean, maybe it's true that we're, you know, obviously i'm saying it in a very generalistic way, but maybe, you know, younger more bound by younger people are more bound by social convention. they don't like being social convention. they don't like to being social convention. they don't like to something being social convention. they don't like to something right.eing able to get something right. >> mhm . it's interesting. >> mhm. it's interesting. >> mhm. it's interesting. >> well want to move >> right. well i want to move on to interesting story to another interesting story that caught our eye. so this relates to oxford university, one of our top universities, if not the top university. i'm not sure. it's always between cambridge and oxford and also london school of economics sometimes. but yes, oxford students have been told to use artificial intelligence to help them write their essays. now the oxford university professor steve news says a! should help you produce a much better essay than you would produce unaided if it's used thoughtfully and critically . critically. >> well, this sounds like a good idea . idea. >> absolutely not, tom, what are you talking about? because we're
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all going to be using ai in the future. >> it's almost it's like saying, oh, you can do maths, but don't use calculator. well, what use a calculator. well, what this can do thing? >> do you really that it's >> do you really think that it's the same as starting with a blank piece paper, an blank piece of paper, forming an essay, sort of just guess essay, then sort of just guess editing something that chatbot editing something that a chatbot has see that's it. has written? see that's it. >> i don't use chatgpt because it just seems too prescriptive for sort of old for me. i'm sort of old fashioned. ended fashioned. i like the open ended web, going on google web, you know, going on google and my own results and finding all my own results and finding all my own results and mind. i'm and making up my own mind. i'm very my ways in that way. very set in my ways in that way. and tell chatgpt , it and people tell me chatgpt, it will you a sort of will give you a sort of ideological answer or will ideological answer or it will say that can't use certain say that you can't use certain sources that's that sort of sources and that's that sort of thing appeal to me thing just doesn't appeal to me at all. >> @ does e'— @ does this say at all. >> does this say about our >> what does this say about our elite university as though, well, the fact that we're dumbing down or could be seen to be dumbing down education in this way? well, first of all, i take a very hard line on this. >> it scares the life out of me. i'm a common editor. i have used chatgpt. i've asked it to write articles in the style of some of our columnists and it is
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frightening. and should be banned. no, i think it's basically you're not taking the italy position of banning these. i'm afraid i am. >> could put everyone out of work. >> e! y is this is pure >> no, this is this is pure luddhe >> no, this is this is pure luddite thinking. this is this is the sort of thoughts of those who wanted to ban combine who wanted to ban the combine harvester because it would get rid too many jobs. well this rid of too many jobs. well this may actually end the world. i mean, i i the elon mean, i take i take the elon musk this which once musk view on this which is once you genie of the you let the genie out of the bottle, can't it in bottle, you can't put it back in with this because it can with this a! because it can surpass human intelligence. it would time that would be the first time that that happened . and i think that has happened. and i think this example, of this is an example, actually, of the genie coming out of the bottle even the smartest bottle when even the smartest students are students in this country are using organised using essentially organised plagiarism to learn. i think that's a big problem . but that's a big problem. but they're using it as a tool in they're using it as a tool in the way that everyone will be using it as a tool in the future. surely learning how to use as a sort way to use this as a sort of way to augment your learning, not to replace learning, to replace your learning, but to use as a as rishi sunak use it as a as rishi sunak always says a co—pilot to yourself . surely that's a good
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thing. >> i understand what you mean. and i was listening to sam altman, the founder openai, and i was listening to sam altman was founder openai, and i was listening to sam altman was sayinger openai, and i was listening to sam altman was saying that openai, and i was listening to sam altman was saying that opevery and he was saying that in every huge tech, every, every era in which we've undergone a huge technological shift, we've always been filled with fear about future. but then about the future. yeah, but then we've adapted it's we've adapted to it and it's been i must say, though, been okay. i must say, though, i do wonder, though, if this really is a massive shift where we actually make ourselves redundant, especially if it is as a sam altman has been experimenting with not just this chat, gpt and the generative ai, but the cognitive ai , where the but the cognitive ai, where the ai begins to think for itself, learning on its own and exponentially. >> and i think they already are. some of these bots smarter than we are and that is quite a scary prospect. we could end up having killer bots. tom this is something that should keep you up at night. >> i don't think we're quite there yet, but there is of course to come. a course plenty more to come. a big thanks to panel. mumtaz big thanks to our panel. mumtaz ahmed holdsworth . ahmed and candice holdsworth. we'll be with them in the we'll be back with them in the next hour and we'll be hearing why london gp is being why a london gp is being investigated extremism.
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 pm on wednesday the 13th of december. coming up this our fight for survival . fight for survival. >> rishi sunak's popularity plunges to a record low despite seeing off a much touted rwanda rebels last night. he may have won the battle, but will he lose the war? >> missing mum, the mystery deepens as the for search a 55 year old woman enters its fifth day. gaynor lord disappeared near the river. wensum in norwich last friday and has not been seen since . we're on the been seen since. we're on the
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scene under investigation . scene under investigation. >> an nhs gp who runs an extremist islamist group has been referred for investigation by his nhs trust. >> and aside from prime minister's questions there's been another big story in the news today and that's the resignation. a significant political resignation of the first minister of wales, mark drakeford. perhaps most famous for instituting 20 mile an hour zones across the principality or for the rather bizarre authority steps he took with regards to the pandemic year. yes, steps he took with regards to the pandemic year . yes, there the pandemic year. yes, there was. there were the odd sort of sections of shops that were deemed non—essential, closed off, taped up. that was a peculiar one. >> it was very peculiar. but of course, there have been lots of nice messages across social media from colleagues and from
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members of the labour party , members of the labour party, i.e. senior figures i've just got here. ed miliband , ed got here. ed miliband, ed miliband has said. mark drakeford has been a great pubuc drakeford has been a great public servant for wales, leading with integrity and progressive values and showing what labour can achieve in government. >> i wish him all the best, showing what labour can achieve in government. of course, wales is only part the country is the only part of the country that decade has cut that in the last decade has cut the spend indeed has the nhs spend and indeed has instituted 20 mile an hour zones. something to zones. is that something to come? but a new come? who knows? but a new leader welsh labour be leader of welsh labour will be instituted march. instituted by march. yes. >> let know who that should >> let us know who that should be. you think be. whether you think mark drakeford has been good for wales, let us know gbviews@gbnews.com. but let's get the headlines with tatiana de . emily. de. emily. >> thank you very much . 2:02. >> thank you very much. 2:02. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. the unity of the conservative party was mocked dunng conservative party was mocked during the final prime minister's questions of the yeah minister's questions of the year. it's after 38 rebel tories
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decided to abstain from a vote on the rwanda bill last night, which passed with a majority of 44. labour leader sir keir starmer accused the government of being in meltdown, but rishi sunak says the numbers on migration and the economy speak for themselves down by a third. >> and crucially, as we heard from honourable friend, tax cuts coming to help working families in the new year. >> mr speaker , he can spin it >> mr speaker, he can spin it all he likes, but the whole country can see that yet again. the tory party is in meltdown and everyone else is paying the price . now he's kicked the can. price. now he's kicked the can. he kicked the can down the road , he kicked the can down the road, but in the last week his his mps, his mps have said of him he's not capable enough. he's in experienced, he's arrogant, not a really bad politician . a really bad politician. >> last night's result was a victory for the prime minister. but tory rebels have warned they'll vote against the draft
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rwanda law in the new year unless it's amended. they say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to the east african nation before the next election. former immigration minister robert jenrick, who resigned last week over the bill, was among those to abstain . to abstain. >> what the public expect us to secure our borders. so i'll always fight for that and i'm pleased it sounds as if pleased that it sounds as if there's way where we there's a way forward where we can the bill better can make the bill better and you're be to you're going to be able to persuade the prime minister to change at all. well, i change the bill at all. well, i certainly he my certainly hope so. he shares my determination to fight this issue illegal migration is one of the great scourges of our time. it's doing untold damage to country we're to our country and we're determined tackle it . determined to tackle it. >> former attorney general sir geoffrey cox says a careful approach needs to be taken on the next reading of the bill. if this bill is not allowed to pass substantially as it is, there will be a growing momentum for something that i personally would regret and be reluctant to contemplate, which would be withdrawal from the european
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convention on human rights. >> we are looking at a situation where the democratic house has already asserted in a quite muscular fashion in its concept of its sovereignty and i think we need to reflect very carefully . carefully. >> welsh first minister mark drakeford has confirmed he's stepping down and will resign in march next year. stepping down and will resign in march next year . the march next year. the announcement has triggered a contest to find his successor. he hopes the new leader will be in place before easter. the uk economy contracted faster than expected , with ons statistics, expected, with ons statistics, data showing a 0.3% fall in october for all three main sectors fell into negative territory for the first time since july with services the biggest driver of the downturn. manufacturing and construction was affected by poor weather. chief secretary to the treasury laura trott says the economy is turning a corner. >> well the pm's top priority this year has been to halve
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inflation and as a result of that we've had to take some difficult decisions and the bank of england has had to drive down inflation by tight monetary policy. that's high interest policy. so that's high interest rates that inevitably has an impact growth . but the impact on growth. but the economy is turning corner economy is turning a corner because of these difficult decisions we've made, decisions that we've made, decisions that we've made, decisions been decisions which have been opposed by the labour party every of the way. every single step of the way. but of those difficult but because of those difficult decisions been able to do decisions we've been able to do things in the autumn things like we did in the autumn statement couple weeks ago, statement a couple of weeks ago, reducing businesses and reducing taxes on businesses and reducing taxes on working people. we focus on people. so we can focus on growth now and growing the economy . economy. >> james bulger's killer, jon venables has been denied parole with the panel ruling, he still poses a threat to the public. he murdered the toddler when he was ten years old in 1993. venables was released on licence in july 2001 and was recalled to prison in 2010. after indecent images of children were found on his computer . the government's computer. the government's candidate for bbc chairman says gary lineker's criticism of the
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defence secretary appears to breach the corporation's social media guidelines. the former england footballer recently hit back at grant shapps after he questioned whether the match of the day host should be allowed to express political political views. the tv presenter was among a group of celebrities to sign a letter calling for the government to scrap its rwanda scheme. speaking to mps at a pre—appointment hearing , samir pre—appointment hearing, samir shah said he didn't think it was helpful. i think this last one, the one that identified specifically to politicians , it specifically to politicians, it seems to me on the face of it, a breach of those guidelines and i imagine the bbc is looking into that now. >> the bbc is in favour of freedom of expression, as it should be, but also the duty to be impartial. it's clear be impartial. it's very clear when to news and when it comes to news and current affairs and when it's not. but there is this grey area within which mr lineker and within which mr lineker sits and i do and i share your frustration. i think i would certainly invite the director general his team to find general and his team to find a solution to this because really we need to find a solution to this. >> this is gb news across the uk
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on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now back to tom and . emily to tom and. emily >> now the prime minister rishi sunak was victorious last night. he saw off a potential rebellion by his own mps. the rwanda bill passed through the commons with a majority of 44. >> yes. home secretary james cleverly has insisted the government's rwanda bill will not be killed by tory rebels in spite of right wing conservative mps, saying they could vote the legislation down at later stages. the bill might see amendments in the new year and of course we'll go through the ever tricky stage of committees . yes. >> yes it will indeed. labour voted against the bill with a commitment to scrap the whole plan altogether. if they win the next election . critics argue
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next election. critics argue that the millions allocated to rwanda could be more effectively used to combat people smuggling gangs. so the question has rishi won the battle? only to potentially lose the war? >> well, joining us now is our political editor, christopher hope. political editor, christopher hope . and, chris, this is hope. and, chris, this is perhaps surprising to many the degree by which rishi sunak won last night. but i suppose the real challenge comes in the new year. real challenge comes in the new year . that's real challenge comes in the new year. that's right, tom. >> emily, hello there from college. green in london. here in westminster. yeah, definitely . right now we're seeing the shape of the deal to shape now of the of the deal to be done with those right wing tories to ensure that they stay on board with this bill. when it comes back second or comes back in the second or third january, the pm's third week of january, the pm's spokesman has just told journalists the following. they look the government look forward that the government is that amendments is clear that any amendments must be in a way that is must be done in a way that is legally credible and the legally credible and has the deterrent effect of stopping the making sure the flights can take off in the first place and
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ensure the scheme doesn't collapse. those are three red lines. the government has now told the right if you can put amendments down, but they must hit those three targets, that is narrowing the scope for amendments quite dramatically . amendments quite dramatically. see this the day after, of course the big win by the government overnight. the 44 mp majority far bigger than expected. and this is what has happened.the expected. and this is what has happened. the whips are now going the bite on those going to put the bite on those 29 tory mps who vote, who who chose abstain pending further chose to abstain pending further amendments and said, well, look, it's very tight space to it's a very, very tight space to work here. not get what work here. you may not get what you want and that is fascinating work here. you may not get what yalso, nt and that is fascinating work here. you may not get what yalso, just1d that is fascinating work here. you may not get what yalso, just whilet is fascinating work here. you may not get what yalso, just while i'mfascinating work here. you may not get what yalso, just while i'm on, inating work here. you may not get what yalso, just while i'm on, we've] . also, just while i'm on, we've been talking to the chief spokesman that spokesman for labour party that what if rwanda flights what happens if rwanda flights do off? and geoffrey cox do take off? and geoffrey cox told over an hour told this program over an hour ago, two hours ago, forgive me now that he thinks is a better than even chance that flights take in may. now, given the take off in may. now, given the majority night , take off in may. now, given the majority night, i asked the majority last night, i asked the spokesman for labour what will happenif spokesman for labour what will happen if the flights take off, if it's starting to work. they said they would they would repeal if it's repeal it even if it's
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successful. fascinating . successful. that's fascinating. they see the problem they've got with it's deportation with it is it's a deportation plan, not an offshore processing plan. so at the heart of it, it is not necessarily the successful they like the successful. they don't like the idea deporting people from idea of deporting people from here protest in rwanda. here to protest in rwanda. they're not so not so against an offshore processing one. but it's the deportation part of rwanda they hate and they will withdraw it . even if it's withdraw it. even if it's working. they win the election . working. they win the election. >> now, christopher, do correct me if i'm wrong, but this is the first i've heard of any offshore process moving policy from the labour party. are they suddenly talking about this as a as an opfion talking about this as a as an option ? are they wouldn't go. option? are they wouldn't go. >> but i did ask that question, no, knowing you'd ask that of me. emily i asked that question of the spokesman too. they're saying going to get saying they're not going to get into a what ifs and any future future noted that future plans. they noted that germany had offshore germany had do offshore processing that in the uk ukrainians are processed offshore before we're coming to the uk . if they're fleeing that the uk. if they're fleeing that country, the difference with of course, with this small boats
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plan is they don't like the idea of taking them from the uk. deport rwanda and deport them to rwanda and leaving them there. that's the difference. so i wonder whether we're indication of we're seeing an indication of what a new labour idea what could be a new labour idea because they recognise that if rwanda to work then rwanda starts to work then they're quite a sticky they're in a quite a sticky position here because they're going the election. on going to fight the election. on withdrawing rwanda. what withdrawing rwanda. but what replaces idea is 1000 replaces it? their idea is 1000 more home office officials to process the backlog and better cooperation with enforcement bodies on the continent. is that enough ? the tories would say enough? the tories would say it's not. >> it's interesting that they're proposing this sort of offshore processing. might mean , processing. might that mean, therefore, that flights go to rwanda, people are processed in rwanda, people are processed in rwanda and then flown all the way back to the uk? if they're deemed to be legitimate migrants, could that be a possibility under the labour party ? party? >> well, labour is saying they will withdraw the rwanda bill, which would assume would disapply the treaty with that country . they may come up with a
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country. they may come up with a different idea processing somewhere else in the world process, say on offshore processing scheme . so rather processing scheme. so rather than having them in hotels, maybe they're processed elsewhere. this we are elsewhere. again, this we are very early stages, lots of ifs here, but think the labour here, but i think the labour party trying to work out how party is trying to work out how it responds to rwanda. if it's successful. emily well, is successful. emily well, this is very, very important to scrutinise we may have scrutinise because we may have a labour government in not too long and they need to decide what they're going to do. >> that is actually different from conservatives are from what the conservatives are doing in the doing because of course in the last, many years what last, however many years what they've been doing is voting against government on against the government on anything they've writing on anything that they've writing on the a napkin as they've the back of a napkin as they've been to talking you, chris, that's unfair. >> tom you know how it works here. i mean, they are looking at it and they are, but they are they are aware. they are they are aware that they i mean, we didn't where were didn't know where we were yesterday the rebels one yesterday had had the rebels one last night. labour would have been put down confidence been put down a no confidence motion today to vote on tomorrow on this government. so motion today to vote on tomorrow on this government . so that's motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii s government. so that's motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii thinkzrnment . so that's
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motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii think inment . so that's motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii think i sensed, so that's motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii think i sensed, io that's motion today to vote on tomorrow on tii think i sensed, i think's why i think i sensed, i think that keir starmer was slightly all over the place with his radar in that prime minister's question. he wasn't really targeting things targeting sunak on the things that and by end he that mattered. and by the end he said happy in his said happy christmas. in his final question almost gave up. and that was because the and i think that was because the tories rare win tories got a win. a rare win over over labour yesterday. over the over labour yesterday. >> christopher, just to >> also, christopher, just to take to your first take you back to your first comments you do you comments about do you do you imagine that some of these conservative mps who decided to abstain rather than vote against the government ? because if these the government? because if these amendments have to fit within potential amendments have to fit within this strict criteria area, then they may well not be getting what they want. and they've just done what the government wanted them to do. >> think you're totally right, >> i think you're totally right, emily. i'll read those back to you again. any amendments you once again. any amendments that will at that the government will look at must legally credible, have must be legally credible, have the deterrent effect and ensure the deterrent effect and ensure the scheme doesn't collapse. now thatis the scheme doesn't collapse. now that is narrowing the scope of amendments. don't the amendments. don't forget the european research group of tory mps put out that ten page report on monday which reported on your
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program gb news. in that program on gb news. in that report the current report it said that the current bill will not work even it can't be amended to make it work and we need to go back to the drawing board. that was their position on monday, the one of the lead rebel rebel groups, the erg. today the government erg. well, today the government is saying if you want amend is saying if you want to amend it, barely change it it, you can barely change it and that the right that is not good for the right yet again, the right will feel very bruised. emily yes, i think there might have a bit of there might have been a bit of bluffing on there, but bluffing going on there, but also suppose, also crucial, i suppose, the most restrictive of those three conditions is, is the one that says ensuring the scheme won't collapse because of course, the rwandans have been saying this is as far as you can go on, notwith standing clauses against international courts or domestic courts , it could, after all, be courts, it could, after all, be the rwanda plans then that say if you amend this too much, we pull back . well, that's right. pull back. well, that's right. theidea pull back. well, that's right. the idea of the scheme collapsing was one raised by rishi sunak in his press conference last thursday when we
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were able to get a question to the prime minister for gb news viewers. he said there he went within an inch. an inch, he said of rwanda withdrawing altogether. he the altogether. he he the government's position we've government's position is we've gone as as we can. we can't gone as far as we can. we can't gone as far as we can. we can't go any further. bigger go any further. the bigger worry, think , is finally worry, i think, is finally on this very senior this from very, very senior people in in government cabinet level. minister spoke to level. minister i spoke to earlier , they're they're worried earlier, they're they're worried that the left the left that that the left the left wing, the one nation group of tory mps, that if they put motions down to weaken it, labour could vote with them. and now that's a whole different attack on this. this bill we haven't really discussed yet properly, but imagine if the if the left put in motions to try and try and weaken that idea and to try and weaken that idea of disapplying elements of the human act then human rights act and then labouh human rights act and then labour, the dems, the snp labour, the lib dems, the snp all it, it could be a all supported it, it could be a very, narrow win and very, very narrow win and bizarrely , the government might bizarrely, the government might need might need the backing of the right to get it through. goodness. there's a more goodness. there's a lot more to play. >> e! 9 me christopher. it >> goodness me christopher. it keeps it keeps coming. keeps coming. it keeps coming. the excitement can barely contain ourselves over but
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contain ourselves over here. but can i get a line from you, a comment from you about labour's mark drakeford in wales. he stepped down as leader of the of the welsh labour. what will he be remembered for, do you think ? be remembered for, do you think? >> well, if you if you ask that of emily of rishi sunak, he would talk about long queues for the nhs , the english nhs bailing the nhs, the english nhs bailing out people living in in, in wales, crossing borders to be treated in english, nhs hospitals . as he made that hospitals. as he made that a point like that in pmqs, which was a rather jarring with a with the with the tribute which sir keir starmer played. i also think that i think on the lockdown he is shown to be a meddling first minister who's been happy to impose 20 mile an hour limits across across wales, which has led to all sorts of issues with with organs getting on time for operations, for bust timetables being rewritten . many timetables being rewritten. many would say, you know, good to have slower cars in some places, but not across the board in so many other places. also on lockdown. i think he did seem
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to, argue, maybe relish to, i would argue, maybe relish we're getting involved in people's lives in wales. certainly my friends in wales were pretty many of them were pretty cheesed off the way pretty cheesed off with the way their being interfered their lives are being interfered with government having with by the government having said i think he has lost said that, i think he has lost his wife. he's had quite a tough personal and in personal few years and in politics it's been about argument and ideas. i argument and ideas. and i thought, of gb news thought, sure, all of gb news viewers well. thought, sure, all of gb news vieiand well. thought, sure, all of gb news vieiand i well. thought, sure, all of gb news vieiand i suppose well. thought, sure, all of gb news vieiand i suppose it's well. thought, sure, all of gb news vieiand i suppose it's always >> and i suppose it's always a luxury in politics to get to decide. when you go to rather than other people forcing correct , correct? correct decision upon, correct? yes, there is that. yeah. well, chris, thank you so much for bringing of that from bringing us all of that from college just parliament. >> well, moving on, an nhs >> yes. well, moving on, an nhs gp who also runs an extremist islamist group has been referred for investigation by his nhs trust after he described hamas terrorists as freedom fighters. yes dr. wahid shada is already facing an investigation after footage emerged of him leading a rally in central london in
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october where some were heard chanting for jihad october where some were heard chanting forjihad quite incredible. >> well, our reporter charlie peters joins us now with more on this story . and charlie, how on this story. and charlie, how on earth has it got to this point? >> well, a fresh investigation has been launched today after the nhs, north—west london told us that it had reported a abdul wahid's comments to nhs england and the general medical council, which they described as distressing comments, and they made that report because on monday night on talk tv, abdul wahid described hamas, as you say , as freedom fighters , as he say, as freedom fighters, as he also failed to condemn the terror attacks on october the 7th. >> he said that the killing of civilians was always be appalling. >> however , he said that so much >> however, he said that so much of that day had been disputed and we just don't know what had happened. he's reiterated these comments on his twitter account. now, of course, there are so many reports from that day.
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first person testimony and hundreds of bodies, many of them innocent civilians from that day. >> so there's plenty of proof to refer to. but it appears that this nhs, gp based in leafy harrow, does not believe it is worthy yet of condemnation . so worthy yet of condemnation. so there's been a long timeline here in this gp's situation with the general medical council and the general medical council and the nhs and that investigation . the nhs and that investigation. but the update today is a fresh review after those distressing comments on monday night. now back in october in central london at that rally after the terror attacks occurred on the seventh, he was calling for muslim armies to intervene in the situation to deal with what he has described as an illegal occupation . he also described occupation. he also described hamas as a resist organisation and said that what happened on the seventh on black saturday, as it's known in israel, where so many hundreds of people were mutilated and murdered in southern israel, he said that this was an act of resistance.
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in fact , and not something that in fact, and not something that he was able to condemn at the time . so nhs, north west london time. so nhs, north west london then reporting these news new comments on monday as distressing comments that need to be investigated . to be investigated. >> it's quite incredible, or at least thoroughly depressing that someone with these types of views would be working within the nhs . but this man, he is the nhs. but this man, he is part of the hizb ut—tahrir , the part of the hizb ut—tahrir, the group . now this is a proscribed group. now this is a proscribed group. now this is a proscribed group in some countries, including a lot of muslim countries , as am i right? are countries, as am i right? are the government now considering proscribed ing this group here? so in 2017, indonesia actually revoked the legal status of this organisation, its activities in germany are prohibited as in many other european countries and as you say , plenty of muslim and as you say, plenty of muslim majority organised nations countries sorry as well . countries sorry as well. >> and that's because this group calls for the implementation of shana calls for the implementation of sharia law and kind of a global caliphate for islam and
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extremely controversial demand . extremely controversial demand. as you might expect in many democracies . and so that group democracies. and so that group is prohibited in many countries, but it isn't proscribed in britain . and that controversy britain. and that controversy flared , of course, in october flared, of course, in october when the organisation was seen marching and chanting soon after the terror attacks on the seventh. we don't know what the current status is and what the met is thinking on proscribing the organisation. and of course, since that event occurred we have had a change in home secretary. so plenty of things for james to get to for james cleverly to get to gnps for james cleverly to get to grips with. but we do know that the general medical council has received reports of concerns from locals in north—west london in the area where this gp operates. they're concerned about his views and patients have also reportedly told the gmc that they do not feel safe if being looked after by this gp. so we'll await further updates from nhs england and the gmc as they continue their
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assessment of what he keeps saying. well charlie peters, we know you'll be sticking on that story as any more developments take place. >> thanks for joining take place. >> thanks forjoining us take place. >> thanks for joining us though here on good afternoon. britain >> i do worry how many people in this share his this country may share his views. worrying indeed. views. very worrying indeed. coming up, though, the search is becoming more desperate as mum of gaynor lord has been of three gaynor lord has been missing friday. we missing since last friday. we are on the scene after this
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 .
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six till 930. >> good afternoon , britain. it >> good afternoon, britain. it is 2:26. well the search continues for mum of three gaynor lord, who was last seen on friday evening. >> her belongings were found scattered in various locations through a local park and in the river. wensum >> now the latest development is that cctv footage has been released which tv viewers can see on their screens now . now? see on their screens now. now? >> well, joining us now to discuss this development and the search in general is gb news national reporter theo chikomba . national reporter theo chikomba. theo, we were talking earlier that the police have been looking in the river. they believe that that that they might discover something in the river. but releasing this cctv footage now suggests that perhaps hope shouldn't be given up . up. >> yes, that's right. >> yes, that's right.
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>> within the last hour, they have released this cctv footage showing a mother of three, gaynor lord, leaving the city centre. and she left her workplace department store in the city centre on friday afternoon. and that has been released to help people all to see what she was wearing . some see what she was wearing. some of those items, as you've just mentioned, have been found in this park. now just over my right shoulder, for those who can see, there is a white tent and norfolk police say that that area in particular is where some of those items were found. and thatis of those items were found. and that is an area they're going to be continuing to look into. there is a special dive teams who are working here. there is a boat which has been going up and down the river to find to hopefully find something that could help as part of their investigation. and also, we've heard from the policing superintendent, wes hornigold , superintendent, wes hornigold, who said are working hypothesis this at the moment is that
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gaynoris this at the moment is that gaynor is in the water. that's what we are working towards. it is it's a missing persons inquiry. there's no evidence at the moment to suggest that there's any third party in involvement. and this is a significant operation in terms of the search, both the park and the waterway searching the water is quite challenging. but i do have to say that there is a strong team of people who are working here. many of them are surrounding many areas of this park. but of course , for the park. but of course, for the family, they'll be hoping that if anyone has any further information, particularly after cctv footage was released, that they'll be able to assist the police. >> so, theo, what we know so far, this image , this cctv far, this image, this cctv footage showing the woman leaving the department store where she was working , she has a where she was working, she has a smile. and here's some more cctv cctv footage that we're seeing now running. she appears to be jogging now running. she appears to be jogging through the streets , jogging through the streets, actually very, very curious, very curious. so that was the
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last time she was seen. and now there is clothing of hers to be found in various locations in a park near this river. what else do we know ? presumably, her do we know? presumably, her family and friends are absolutely distraught at. >> yes , one can imagine what's >> yes, one can imagine what's going through their mind right now, particularly leading up to christmas, a time where family members and friends will be looking to come together. and of course , they are looking to hear course, they are looking to hear and see what the police have been able to establish as part of their investigation. now they believe that gaynor is in the water, but of course, they haven't confirmed that at the moment as the investigation continues here at wensum park, just on the edge of the city centre here in in norwich, i am fascinated by this footage we're seeing . we're seeing a sort of seeing. we're seeing a sort of rush through traffic run down a road. she looks like she's in a
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huge hurry, perhaps running from something, running to something . something, running to something. this has really heightened the sense of mystery for me at least. theo . i'm i'm almost lost least. theo. i'm i'm almost lost for words. why have the police decided to release this? clearly they've got more avenues of investigation in than just looking in the water. yes so apart from the cctv , they're apart from the cctv, they're also appealing for anyone who has cameras on their doors , for has cameras on their doors, for example, and dash cam footage as well. this is part of their appeal well. this is part of their appeal, which they've launched in the last hour. and they're hoping that anyone who's who's got some of this footage is able to help them and pass it on to the so that they can put the police so that they can put together some of the evidence they already have and some of which in this area which many people in this area might have to assist them and, of course, help them in this investigation. now, police will be using all avenues in cases like this so that they are able to put everything together and
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perhaps find a conclusion in this case. >> thank you very much indeed, theo jacob. there are gb news national reporter in the area. this is quite incredible, this cctv footage , quite lengthy as cctv footage, quite lengthy as well. we see the lady in various areas of the city centre there looking like she's in a rush to somewhere or away from something as well. we'll be on the scene to find out more when and if we receive it . receive it. >> yes, but before all of that orindeed >> yes, but before all of that or indeed we'll be looking more more at this royal rumble . more at this royal rumble. things aren't looking too rosy for prince harry and meghan markle. so much more of that after your headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> tom thank you. 232 i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. the unity of the conservative party was mocked during the final prime minister's questions of the year. it's after 38 rebel
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tories decided to abstain from a vote on the rwanda bill last night, which passed with a majority of 44. labour leader sir keir starmer accused the government of being in meltdown. but rishi sunak says the numbers on migration and the economy speak for themselves . last speak for themselves. last night's result was a victory for the prime minister but tory rebels have warned they'll vote against the draft rwanda law in the new year unless it's amended. they say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to the east african nafion deported to the east african nation before the next election . nation before the next election. cctv footage has been released of mother of three gaynor lord, who's been missing since friday. police hope video of the 55 year old leaving work in norwich will help jog memories for anyone who's seen her. her belongings were found in wensum park just hours after the footage was recorded. police say her disappearance is out of character . welsh first minister character. welsh first minister mark drakeford has confirmed
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he's stepping down and will resign in march next year. the announcement has triggered a contest to find his successor. he hopes the new leader will be in place before easter. he hopes the new leader will be in place before easter . james in place before easter. james bulger's killer, jon venables, has been denied parole with the panel ruling, he still poses a threat to the public. he murdered the toddler when he was ten years old in 1993, when nibbles was released on licence in july 2001, recalled to prison in july 2001, recalled to prison in 2010, after indecent images of children were found on his computer . of children were found on his computer. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website gbnews.com . now website gb news.com. now website gbnews.com. now lucy letby was struck off the nursing register yesterday during what was initially planned as a two day hearing, but was concluded just in one day. >> yes, letby was convicted of murder and issued a life
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sentence back in august . while sentence back in august. while she still pleads innocent to her crimes, she's formally lodged a bid to challenge her convictions at the court of appeal. >> so joining us now is gb news reporter sophie reaper, who's been following this story from the very start . sophie, can you the very start. sophie, can you bnng the very start. sophie, can you bring us the latest ? she's bring us the latest? she's challenging her convictions. could there be a retrial? well, there's plenty to discuss when it comes to lucy letby. i think after yesterday , people may have after yesterday, people may have may now be thinking that, in fact, lucy letby that may all be oveh fact, lucy letby that may all be over. but that is definitely not the case. obviously back in the summer we had those guilty verdicts and then yesterday she was struck from the nursing register. but we still have plenty to come. so we have the statutory inquiry that's now ongoing to gusts up and down. the uk have been asked by lady justice thirlwall if they've considered putting cctv onto the wards and if they believe that
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the it's a toxic environment in the it's a toxic environment in the nhs. we've also got a corporate manslaughter investigation currently being carried out by cheshire constabulary that's into senior members of staff at the countess of chester hospital, where lucy letby carried out her crimes. you mentioned there the appeal. so earlier on in the year after those guilty verdicts . yes. lucy those guilty verdicts. yes. lucy letby and her team launched an application to make that appeal. so that doesn't mean they're going to be able to make the appeal. going to be able to make the appeal . what it means is they've appeal. what it means is they've made that application to the court of appeal can take up court of appeal that can take up to five months for a judge to review that process and see if they're going to be able to make that appeal . so we should be that appeal. so we should be heanng that appeal. so we should be hearing about that sometime in january or february in the new yeah january or february in the new year. we also have the retrial potentially of child k allegedly was attempted, was an attempted murder . the was attempted, was an attempted murder. the jury back in august were unable to come to a verdict on that. so we could potentially be having that. and we also know
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just to keep the list rolling on, we know that cheshire constabulary are still investigating potential incidents carried out by lucy letby . they say that they have a letby. they say that they have a duty of care to the people of chester and beyond to make sure that, in fact, anything that she did, that they investigate it and bring it into the light. >> so if you've sat in that courtroom, you've listen to hours of testimony , you've seen hours of testimony, you've seen lucy letby and the way that she has acted . and throughout this has acted. and throughout this process, what do you think is going on inside her head that she maintains her innocence in the face of all of this evidence ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's ? >> well, it's really rather difficult. at the start of the trial, she seemed incredibly invested. but as we got into the verdicts, at first she was incredibly emotional . she seemed incredibly emotional. she seemed to be taking it really to heart. we heard her sob. there was at one point where she had to be taken down from the courtroom at
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manchester crown court because she too emotional . but she was just too emotional. but then went on with the then as things went on with the with the verdicts in august, then as things went on with the with the verdicts in august , she with the verdicts in august, she became stony faced. there was no reaction. and as it got to a point where we had those seven guilty on murder and guilty verdicts on murder and seven guilty counts of attempts , seven guilty counts of attempts, murder, she just stopped coming into the courtroom. and of course, it was highly controversial that she refused to appear for her sentencing a few days after she was given those guilty verdict acts. and now we're at a point where she is in prison. she was given the whole life tariff. and it seems that she's going to be spending the rest of her life in prison . the rest of her life in prison. and of course, with her being stricken from the register yesterday , she did actually say yesterday, she did actually say that she was happy for that to happen, although she still does maintain that she is not guilty of any of the crimes she's been convicted very interesting convicted of. very interesting to hear from your first hand experience of sitting there in the courtroom. thank you very much indeed. gb news reporter sophie reaper , thank you for sophie reaper, thank you for your time. well coming up, we'll
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be back with our panel and some enormous to cover, not enormous stories to cover, not least the bbc. gary lineker. it goes on. will he be given a red card? finally we are always going to talk about chocolate boxes. >> but you know what? we'll be doing it
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news. good afternoon, britain. it's 242 and things aren't looking too rosy for prince harry and meghan markle. donations to the archewell foundation, their charitable arm , fell by almost £10 million back in 2022. well back with us to discuss some of these stories is the associate commentator at the telegraph , mutaz ahmed, and the telegraph, mutaz ahmed, and the writer and broadcaster candice holdsworth . candice holdsworth. >> and we must add with harry and meghan, they've also been voted and or deemed deemed not voted and or deemed deemed not voted nominated. i don't know what you call it described as the biggest losers in hollywood, and that's by the showbiz bible, the hollywood reporter. things aren't looking too for great the couple, are they? candace no. >> you know, it's such a lost opportunity. they could have gone over there, created something completely new, pursued all these wonderful opportunities that america has to they pursued to offer, but they pursued a kind of bitter agenda . and maybe kind of bitter agenda. and maybe there were financial reasons for it. personal it. maybe there were personal reasons but i think it's reasons for it. but i think it's damaged maybe if they said damaged them. maybe if they said one maybe if they'd done
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one thing, maybe if they'd done one thing, maybe if they'd done one interview, that would have been think it's just been okay. but i think it's just been okay. but i think it's just been a constant stream been a constant steady stream and just don't and a lot of people just don't like and mutos you like the drama and mutos do you think that traditionally there's been sense that americans been this sense that americans think this in different think about this in a different way but now that way to brits, but now that hollywood reporter is sort of speaking along the lines as speaking along the same lines as some of the tabloid press over here in the uk, is that gap shrinking? >> yeah, i don't think it was true to begin with. you know, william and kate are extremely popular in america . i think the popular in america. i think the queen was popular in america for the reason that she was the same reason that she was popular i don't think by popular here. i don't think by the way, that harry and meghan could have done anything productive because they have no talent . and so this the only talent. and so this was the only path could gone path they could have gone down. but what happens when but this is what happens when you chase fashionable causes , you chase fashionable causes, right? they die out. are you sure they talent? sure they have no talent? i mean, meghan markle was a media was was successful was was was a was a successful actress. she was , of course, actress. she was, of course, famously suits. she famously in suits. and she married very well. >> did watch suits ? >> did you watch suits? >> did you watch suits? >> i've never seen it. >>— >> i've never seen it. >> i've never seen it. >> i did. to fair. i did >> i did. to be fair. i did watch suits and i did enjoy it. i'm not sure if it was because
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of meghan markle's acting, but it went on for too long and it was very boring. >> but that's my that's my opinion. no, but look, americans aren't stupid . they're seeing aren't stupid. they're seeing through it. and they see that this couple who are millionaires, they live in a mansion . you know, one of them mansion. you know, one of them is a royal inherited millions. they represent the they don't represent the dispossessed and they don't represent the disadvantaged. and there's no point pretending that they do. do try to, though. they do. they do try to, though. >> i mean, meghan markle's podcast, was about, you podcast, it was all about, you know, the podcast , she got know, this the podcast, she got paid $20 million. yes. women who have struggled x, y and have struggled with x, y and z throughout their lives and it always came back to meghan. and the problem is, is that once you're a multi—millionaire, married to a prince, it no longer sincere anymore . longer appears sincere anymore. but anyway, this this hollywood reporter that have deemed them the biggest losers of the year mocked them for their whiny netflix documentary , their whiny netflix documentary, their whiny biography , and their inert biography, and their inert podcast . so there we go. now podcast. so there we go. now i want to talk about gary lineker. yes yes, yes. because he is back
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in the news under the microscope . under the microscope. yet again, over potentially potentially breaching the bbc's guidelines yet again . guidelines yet again. >> now, these are the guidelines that were drawn up specifically to allow him to have public opinion polls. but he seems to have gone beyond even these. candace, what's going on here? >> i know you you do wonder with gary lineker if the bbc had stood firm last time when they took him off air and but all his colleagues sort of rallied around him and people said, well, you've got to make the decision now. with him , decision now. be firm with him, show tolerate show that you won't tolerate this. you don't, you'll this. but if you don't, you'll be in a weaker position and he'll and he'll feel emboldened. and i think that is what has happened now. i think lineker sort think that is what has happened nothinks,nk lineker sort think that is what has happened nothinks, well, lineker sort think that is what has happened nothinks, well, i'm neker sort think that is what has happened nothinks, well, i'm azker sort of thinks, well, i'm a bit untouchable because last time you something to me, you tried to do something to me, you tried to do something to me, you able to. you had no teeth. >> but candace, does he, a >> but candace, does he, like a child, need to be disciplined? >> well, think i think child, need to be disciplined? >>is.ell, think i think child, need to be disciplined? >>is. see, think i think child, need to be disciplined? >>is. see, il'sik i think child, need to be disciplined? >>is. see, it's interesting. nk child, need to be disciplined? >>is. see, it's interesting. it; he is. see, it's interesting. it depends which way you at depends which way you look at it. so i think he is undermining the credibility of the bbc an
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the credibility of the bbc as an impartial organisation. you impartial organisation. if you want the bbc to uphold that reputation , then that's very reputation, then that's very irritating. for a lot of irritating. but for a lot of people they'll think, well, that impartiality real impartiality was never real anyway . they have opinions. anyway. they do have opinions. these people do have opinions, and maybe it's better that we see what their opinions are. however, licence that however, with a licence fee that makes more reluctant to makes people more reluctant to pay makes people more reluctant to pay it says. makes people more reluctant to payis says. makes people more reluctant to payis there an argument here >> is there an argument here that talks about that this guy talks about football the he's not that this guy talks about fo newsl the he's not that this guy talks about fonews broadcaster. he's not that this guy talks about fonews broadcaster. he's's not that this guy talks about fonews broadcaster. he's not)t a news broadcaster. he's not doing the bulletins at the 1:00 news. shouldn't he have a bit of licence? no he was a great footballer. i like his commentary. he's been very kind to tottenham. but the bbc title gives him credibility. and with that comes responsibility. and he's obviously taking the mickey. but i think this is where shah comes into it, because not many people know who he is. and i followed his work at the ethnic disparity commission with tony sewell. and this is the government's preferred candidate to become the next director general. exactly and this man who exactly and this is a man who throughout his career, one of his focuses has been race. and
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in analysing race, he always goes with the facts rather than sentimentality. and that's annoyed the activists. but he's always focussed on facts and you see that now with his judgement that that gary lineker probably did break the rules , which the did break the rules, which the bbc management aren't admitting to yet. i think he's going to change things. >> quite unemotional about. >> yes. and he understands that the bbc needs the trust of the people . people. >> so yeah, what about sorry to interrupt. what about so even if you approve of what gary lineker says or you think that it doesn't matter too much because it's his personal social media threads and it's fine that he signs these open letters about the government's policies and things like that. he's becoming just a bit of a headache for the bbc at this point. he's hugely paid. would it just be easier for the bbc to avoid this endless controversy over the man to just sort of, you know, part w ays? ways? >> he's a £13 million headache andifs >> he's a £13 million headache and it's not like there aren't other football commentators and
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other football commentators and other channels do football commentary very well and get a similar sized audience. so there are alternatives. but but gary lineker also has you know, he's formed a sort of trade union in the bbc. if he if he's sacked, they might all go on strike again. so we'll see what happens. but it must very happens. but it must be very difficult of course , difficult because, of course, the of twisted and the bbc has sort of twisted and turned trying to create these new terms of reference, one set of terms for people who work in news and current affairs, another set of terms for people that as i believe, gary that are, as i believe, gary lineker is on sort of a contracted relationship rather than employee. they than a direct employee. they were pretty liberal terms. he was to say that he hated was allowed to say that he hated the tories . what he wasn't the tories. what he wasn't allowed was personal allowed to do was personal insults against ministers and this is what he appears to have donein this is what he appears to have done in this case. >> yes. yes. and name someone specifically, which you're not allowed to do. i think it's true. if someone's not news true. if someone's not in news or politics, you think, well, why matter how why does it matter how they express opinion ? but he's express their opinion? but he's so i he's
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so well known. i mean, he's a huge figure. so it does actually he represent the bbc. so he does represent the bbc. so that's why people get so irritate about it. and i don't think that he displays much discretion himself. i mean, he clearly wants to express his opinion and he thinks we're all entitled to hear it. >> i just think there's quite a lot of hypocrisy here because let's say he was on the right of politics and he was using his platform to talk about how he thinks immigration has been far too high and that we need to turn back the boats or something like this. i can't imagine the sort of lefty luvvie type saying, oh, no , the bbc must saying, oh, no, the bbc must keep him. he's allowed to talk, you know, whatever he thinks he can. >> you two words, jeremy clarkson . yes. and i think clarkson. yes. and i think another example , if i really another example, if i really don't like carol vorderman, but if you're carol vorderman, you must feel really annoyed at the moment because she left bbc wales feeling that the new guidelines would stop her from promoting her left wing opinions
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. yeah, she was probably right to leave, but given that gary's able to go on twitter and say whatever he wants, she must feel particularly aggrieved right now. it's interesting, though , now. it's interesting, though, looking at people like that or indeed looking at emily maitlis orjon indeed looking at emily maitlis or jon sopel now they've left the bbc and now having glittering careers on the radio, being able to say , well some being able to say, well some people would argue they at the bbc were pretty liberal with how they express their political views. but surely i mean we have a pluralistic, we have a wonderfully pluralistic media scene in the uk now , if you want scene in the uk now, if you want to have political views , you can to have political views, you can work for all number of organisations , is just not the bbc. >> i know there's so many opfions >> i know there's so many options now . there's a huge options now. there's a huge number of options and maybe that's is a bit that's also why there is a bit more of a backlash now because people do want to know what your opinion is as a journalist. most journalists are pretty opinionated . it almost seems a opinionated. it almost seems a bit anachronistic having this model the that we model now in the way that we livethis is an outrage. moving >> this is an outrage. moving on, we're going to move.
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>> we've covered gary lineker, we've covered harry and meghan . we've covered harry and meghan. but i think perhaps the most controversial part, certainly the bit that gets me the most angry this whole discussion angry of this whole discussion is christmas chocolates. this is a box of quality streets. >> we made these other brands are available now. >> but the reason we have these here on the table. >> go on then, let me have one, is that this box is a lot smaller than previous years. >> it's known as shrink inflation. i believe we might have some images of previous boxes of quality streets and sweets over the years. we'll see if we can get them up. but here we go. the tin has shrunk. you year on, year on year. you're getting less for your cash. candice this is a national disgrace. it is a disgrace . disgrace. it is a disgrace. >> but we're going to see more of this now, especially with manufacturing costs going up and energy we're to be energy costs. we're going to be paying energy costs. we're going to be paying for less, even with paying more for less, even with your freeze your electricity, you freeze through the winter and through most of the winter and you through most of the winter and you pay through most of the winter and you pay through the nose for it. through most of the winter and you it's through the nose for it. through most of the winter and you it's happeninge nose for it. through most of the winter and you it's happening with.e for it. through most of the winter and you it's happening with our r it. and it's happening with our sweets as well.
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sweets now as well. >> is quite a big >> that is quite a big difference, isn't it? that's a lot shrinkage. yeah. i lot of shrinkage. yeah. and i imagine paying for imagine you're paying more for it i think with chocolate it's >> i think with chocolate it's probably not a bad thing. oh, no . look, you may not be able to see it, but i recently came off ozempic and one of the things is the this is the jab. this is the weight loss jab. yes. and one of the things it did was it killed my chocolate addiction . and in my chocolate addiction. and in hindsight, , i probably hindsight, actually, i probably would have paid more for less . would have paid more for less. you addiction. you had a chocolate addiction. >> but thank you. >> oh, sorry, but thank you. >> oh, sorry, but thank you. >> thank you . put them away. >> thank you. put them away. that's but look, we live in a capitalist society . thankfully, capitalist society. thankfully, we live in a capitalist society. i think they're probably forming an assessment based on profit and. and people can vote with their wallets. and if it doesn't work, then they'll have to bring the big boxes back. >> see. but i mean, >> but we'll see. but i mean, some here, i some of the statistics here, i mean, celebrations, is mean, celebrations, this is quality celebrations quality street, but celebrations is might buy is another brand. you might buy at mars , at christmas made by mars, shrank from 750g to 600g, but increased the price by 50. and there was one that was even more
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outrageous . one went from 850g outrageous. one went from 850g to 550g. that's almost, you know, chopped in half. >> emily i think there's only one way to really assess that. what is actually going on here. inoficed what is actually going on here. i noticed you've hidden the box away from us. i think we should have a little try of these sweets . there aren't many, sweets. there aren't that many, are these the special are there? these are the special . well, we hand the box . well, should we hand the box around anyone else wants around in case anyone else wants to grab? >> i don't want to. >> i don't want to. >> i don't want to. >> i don't want trigger >> i don't want to trigger the addiction. well, i think it's important our in important that just in our in our little bit of the our final little bit of the show, we can see these are the i swear were longer these swear these were longer these used to longer little used to be longer these little chocolate fingery fudgy things. >> would just >> but maybe you would just smaller, maybe . smaller, maybe. >> very point . policemen >> very good point. policemen are getting younger, right? >> well , that's all we've got >> well, that's all we've got time for. >> thank you very much. mutaz ahmed, who was associate commentator at the telegraph and the writer and broadcaster candice holdsworth. thank you very much indeed time . very much indeed for your time. that's us today. it's that's it for us today. it's been fantastic show. lots been a fantastic show. lots going on as always. you enjoy that. but up next, it is martin
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daubney. so with us. daubney. so stay with us. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan magee here from the met office. with the gb news forecast. it stays cloudy for many of us today with some showery rain, especially in the east. but towards the north and west. skies are brightening as low peels away into as low pressure peels away into the near continent, taking its weakening weather fronts with it . these weather fronts are, though, still providing the focus cloud . lots of low focus for cloud. lots of low cloud, some patchy rain and drizzle into eastern and southeastern parts of england through rest of wednesday. through the rest of wednesday. by around midnight, most of that's the cloud that's petered away. the cloud starts to thin and a clear gap between weather systems emerges with a touch of frost and some fog. as that crosses the country. but then temperatures rise by the end of the night as another area of cloud and outbreaks of rain move in eastern scotland. much of northern and central england ,
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northern and central england, the south—west and wales starts off with cloud outbreaks of mostly light rain. now that pushes east into south eastern parts. by the afternoon, where it will be dull and damp after a bright start. but skies brighten elsewhere, especially for western parts of england, wales into scotland and northern ireland. however, northern and western scotland, prone to a strong wind touch of gale force winds around exposed coasts and quite a number of showers moving in similar conditions for friday. showers and a strong wind for western scotland. parts of northern ireland. elsewhere bright skies to begin slowly turning cloudier and really the outlook says it all a lot of cloud expected this weekend, but it will will be mild, especially by night . by night. >> it looks like things are heating up, boxed boilers, sponsors of weather on .
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or will these red lines save the seemingly doomed rwanda bill next story farage is back. he's back on british soil and he blasted out a warning at rishi sunak , who he says faces sunak, who he says faces a catastrophic defeat at the next general election. even better news, farage is back on gb news tonight live, 7 pm. he's back. you will not want to miss it. next story . and in a gp who next story. and in a gp who works with the nhs with alleged link to an islamist group has been suspended is investigated by the nhs trust he works for because he called hamas terrorists freedom fighters . terrorists freedom fighters. charlie peters will have the full story. and finally, what's labour's position on migration is almost as evasive as what's labour's position on brexit. but last night a labour minister appeared to tweet a five point
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