news. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 3 pm. i'm martin daubney and today i'll be presenting the programme live from a brand spanking new studio in westminster. >> isn't she a beauty? i stop top tory today. prime minister rishi sunak is travelling to italy for an immigration conference with right wing leaders. but as elon musk makes a surprise appearance, i'll ask is rishi doing a nick clegg and geanng is rishi doing a nick clegg and gearing up for a silicon valley top job after he loses the next general election . i've slayed general election. i've slayed a dragon, says prince harry as he wins an historic £140,000 privacy case against the mirror group. >> cameron walker will join me

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>> it's just after 3:00. i'm lisa hartle in the gb newsroom. police say there is no evidence of third party involvement after a body was found in a river dunng a body was found in a river during the search for a missing mother of three in norwich. gaynor lord went missing after leaving work in norwich city centre last friday. norfolk police say the body hasn't been formally identified. the force says it remains open minded to the circumstances of the 55 year old's disappearance , and will old's disappearance, and will continue to pursue all lines of inquiry. >> this remains a missing person inquiry at this stage. i'm also satisfied at the moment, based on the evidence that we have, that gaynor did not meet anybody on the way to the park and we now have a better understanding of her movements through the city centre . whilst this is not city centre. whilst this is not the outcome we wished for, our search always predominantly search is always predominantly focussed the river and the focussed on the river and the park . park. >> prince harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability. after being awarded more than £140,000 in damages over phone hacking

claims against a tabloid newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspapers . between 2006 and newspapers. between 2006 and 2011. the judge also said the duke of sussex's phone was probably hacked to a modest extent. in response, the publisher says they apologise unreservedly where historical wrongdoing took place , prince wrongdoing took place, prince harry's lawyer, david sherborne , harry's lawyer, david sherborne, read out this statement earlier this case is not just about hacking , it is this case is not just about hacking, it is about a systemic practice of unlawful and appalling behaviour followed by cover ups and destruction of evidence , the shocking scale of evidence, the shocking scale of which can only be revealed through these proceedings. >> the court has found that mirror group's principal board directors , their legal directors, their legal department, senior executives and editors such as piers morgan clearly knew about or were involved in these illegal

activities . as the home activities. as the home secretary says, the government must and will do more after one person died and another was left in a critical condition in the engush in a critical condition in the english channel, a boat carrying migrants sank about five miles off the coast of dunkirk overnight. >> more than 60 people were rescued . james cleverly rescued. james cleverly described the incident as a horrific reminder of the people smugglers brutality . uk police smugglers brutality. uk police are working with french authorities to bring back a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago. alex batty , who is now 17, went batty, who is now 17, went missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe he was abducted by his mother to live an alternative lifestyle abroad and assistant chief constable from greater manchester police, chris sykes, gave this update earlier a warning. this contains a flashing images. >> our main priority now is to see alex returned home to his family in the uk and our investigation team are working around the clock with partner

agencies and the french authorities to ensure they are all fully supported . alex and all fully supported. alex and his family remain our focus and we still have some work to do in establishing the full circumstances surrounding his disappearance and where he has beenin disappearance and where he has been in all those years. >> relatives of two people killed at a london music venue have renewed their appeal for information. one year on from a fatal crush . 23 year old fatal crush. 23 year old security guard gabby hutchinson and 33 year old rebecca eichman were killed when fans without tickets tried to force their way into the brixton academy last yeah into the brixton academy last year. the met had recently released cctv images of people they wish to speak to about the incident, and confirmed one arrest had been made. the parents of rebecca say they want justice. >> we don't know what happened to her. we don't know how she died and we are still waiting for information. uh as to how

this happened and, um , i mean, this happened and, um, i mean, the most important thing is, uh , the most important thing is, uh, we don't want this to happen to another family. >> this is gb news across the uk , on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . martin >> thank you very much, lisa. now we start with the latest on the migrant crisis, the ongoing saga. and i told you yesterday the rishi sunak will meet italian prime minister giorgio meloni tomorrow. but in a major development, it's emerged that the leader albania will also the leader of albania will also be present. now i'm joined in our new studio in westminster by our new studio in westminster by our political editor, christopher hope . chris, this christopher hope. chris, this seems to be significant. meloni has a deal with albania. we have a deal with albania. meloni is doing an offshore containment deal to stop the boats in albania. rishi is going to be

there. sounds like a great idea. why can't we have a bit of that? there's common cause, isn't there? >> i mean, the idea of the offshore offshore processing centres is what germany are looking countries. looking at in other countries. rwanda's rwanda. our rwanda's different rwanda. our idea of rwanda is a deportation idea of rwanda is a deportation idea that's labour is so idea and that's why labour is so against but the idea of against it. but the idea of processing illegally arrived migrants else, not in migrants somewhere else, not in hotels or not allowed to wait in hotels or not allowed to wait in hotels they're processed, hotels while they're processed, is idea. is not a bad idea. >> i mean, the appeal, if you want to the uk and go want to get to the uk and go into a hotel , it want to get to the uk and go into a hotel, it almost draws them in shouldn't be doing. >> this should be a degree of don't come here at all, begs the question if it was so quick and for easy meloni set up this for easy meloni to set up this deal with we done deal with albania, we have done our returns deal with our own returns deal with albania recently. >> of course, one of the successes of sunaks premiership was country, was declared a safe country, which is. but why which of course it is. but why can't do an identical deal can't we do an identical deal with than , you with albania rather than, you know, wasting all the time of the human rights of rwanda ? it's the human rights of rwanda? it's off the peg. it's ready to go. why we just do the same? why don't we just do the same? we to, but we are we could try to, but we are trying to do a different idea. >> we're trying to really

properly decide paid people from coming if you know that if coming here. if you know that if you you will you cross the channel you will go to rwanda, go 5000 miles away to rwanda, not where there's an not to albania, where there's an easier route back to the uk, but they're building containment centres, manned centres, ostensibly manned security, you know, prisons , security, you know, prisons, basically their processing centres . centres. >> and that's the sort of place i think would be quite a good deterrent if you're if you're rocking up in a dinghy at dover, then you go to albania and be in a prison. >> that's we do have an albania deal >> that's we do have an albania deal. of course, they the pm tells us that's numbers tells us that's cut numbers by 30% would say 30% in crossing. some would say the had a part to play the weather had a part to play with a dreadful summer here, didn't but the of didn't we? but the idea of rwanda something completely didn't we? but the idea of rwanda it'snething completely didn't we? but the idea of rwanda it'snethingto>mpletely didn't we? but the idea of rwanda it'snethingto tryiletely didn't we? but the idea of rwanda it'snethingto try andly different. it's meant to try and break for and all. the break once for and all. the attraction of coming here. i think you start getting flights, taking it started taking off, running. it started out though, it was few hundred out though, it was a few hundred young men would sent now young men would be sent and now it's this silver it's become this. this silver bullet. think it's almost got bullet. i think it's almost got its totemic, uh, its got this totemic, uh, traction now think for many in traction now i think for many in the but beyond what the tory party. but beyond what it can do now, my eyebrows raised saw elon musk is raised when i saw elon musk is turning up something of a big

tech bromance. >> it seems, going on between rishi and elon musk , and they're rishi and elon musk, and they're getting quite tight. a lot of people looking ahead, speculating the rishi sunak fancies himself in silicon valley, a sort of nick clegg on steroids. maybe down the line is this rishi with one eye on his next career move, a grossly cynical martin to think that there's not an election for at least a year, probably, probably about a year away is your election. >> yes. he's got house in california. yes that's where elon musk is based. his tesla operation, twitter. i of course, the big growth area. of course he met with elon musk, didn't he . at that that session they had on i um i've been buckinghamshire. i mean yes they there was clearly a connection and i think i think frankly you could be right. but i think i think to be fair to sunak, he probably thinks ai is the future. we're trying to be almost global regulator for almost a global regulator for al. trying to be the place ai. we're trying to be the place where is settled and the where ai is settled and the guardrails are out, and

guardrails are worked out, and it's all of that. more than it's all part of that. more than more him planning for the more than him planning for the future. martin, you're cynical, you know. >> well, i think there's something it. really do. something in it. i really do. um. look, look, if you put yourself at the centre of an ai movement, a political movement, elon of the elon musk is in control of the tech. rishi great intro, tech. rishi is a great intro, man . far better than nick clegg. man. far better than nick clegg. some might say. call me cynic. i'm just laying it out there. so thank you. superb. kicking off our session the news. our maiden session in the news. great be long there great to be here long may there be more. now i'm be many, many more. now i'm joined the by political joined on the line by political commentator diana. paolo commentator paolo diana. paolo is pleasure to you is always a pleasure to see you on the show. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> we have rishi sunak with your premier , giorgio meloni. meloni, premier, giorgio meloni. meloni, of course, has done a fantastic deal of course, has done a fantastic deal, i would say, with albania offshore containment in a way that's really going to stop the boats, begs the question how did that go down in italy? because we have such resistance in britain to rwanda . how did the britain to rwanda. how did the italian public react to that deal ? deal? >> well, martin, there wasn't so much resistance at all.

>> the democratic party says something, but it was more rhetoric than anything else. >> and they stopped talking about that. >> i read italian newspapers every day, and there's no mention about scandal, not mention about no scandal, not only in italy but also in the european union, because we all know that the european commission gave a permit to giorgia meloni to go on with this, uh, agreement with albania i >> -- >> it just i lam em >> it just i find it astonishing that this deal was done very quickly and in italy, last time i checked, is in the european union and in the, the echr. yet you have you've had no resistance. the lawyers haven't complained, the media haven't complained. and yet we find ourselves in the uk unable to get a single person to rwanda. what do you think, rishi sunak can learn from giorgia meloni in his time in italy ? his time in italy? >> no, no , it's a problem. i >> no, no, it's a problem. i think of far left wing press thatis think of far left wing press that is demonising and polarising the public opinion related to immigration. i think

rishi sunak is doing well and it could just implement this idea . could just implement this idea. i think striking deals with other countries and getting help in processing the visas that this , you know, illegal migrants this, you know, illegal migrants to see if they're real refugees or not. uh, in other countries , or not. uh, in other countries, it's just the way forward. we know that denmark is looking into that. and also germany, if germany in the future will be, um, ruled by a centre right government that it looks like it might happen in a few years time , they will follow. we all know that, unfortunately , immigration that, unfortunately, immigration is going to rise. illegal immigration and how popular has this been with the italian public? >> because again , the press in >> because again, the press in britain, the liberal media in britain, the liberal media in britain has called a far right extremist drags out links to mussolini . but i'm assuming this mussolini. but i'm assuming this has landed very well with most of the italian public, because it's very visible , a very

it's very visible, a very present and a very , um, present and a very, um, touchable phenomenon of all these boats constantly coming in and far greater numbers to italy than they do to the uk . than they do to the uk. >> absolutely. but i tell you the truth, martin, giorgia meloni. she's running a moderate government. she's not hard, right ? this government. she's not hard, right? this is government. she's not hard, right ? this is completely right? this is completely misleading . everything that i misleading. everything that i read in the press, particularly in certain press here in the uk and everyone is scared about the future because we all know that, uh, illegal migrants will be a burden , are a burden for a burden, are a burden for a nation, and also we have to look into who these migrants are. you know, that 99% of these migrants are young men coming from poor countries . so they are not countries. so they are not educated. they don't have money. someone has to pay for their for education them to find jobs. it's not easy. we know that italy already has other problems by its own, so we can't save all the poor people in the planet. uh, even we. >> diana, i'm afraid we have to interrupt you there. we are now going to piers morgan is making

a judge in the high court in london. >> has ruled on various cases, including prince harry's claim against mirror group newspapers. where i was an editor until 2004. judgement finds there 2004. the judgement finds there is just one article relating to the prince, published in the daily mirror. >> during entire nine year >> during my entire nine year tenure as editor, that he thinks may have involved some unlawful information gathering . information gathering. >> to be clear, i had then and still have zero knowledge of how that particular story was gathered. all his other claims against the daily mirror under my editorship were rejected with regard to the judge's other references to me in his judgement, i also want to reiterate , as i've consistently reiterate, as i've consistently said for many years now, i've never hacked a phone or told anybody else to hack a phone, and nobody has produced any actual evidence to prove that i did. i wasn't called as a witness, and it's important for people to know this by either side in the case. nor was i asked to provide any statement. i would have very happily agree to do either or both of those things had i been asked, nor did

ihave things had i been asked, nor did i have a single conversation with any of the mirror group lawyers throughout entire lawyers throughout the entire legal , so i wasn't able legal process, so i wasn't able to respond to the many false allegations that were spewed about me in court by all foes of mine, with an axe to grind, most of which, inexplicably, were not even challenged in my absence by the mirror group counsel. but i note the judge appears to have believed the evidence of amid scobie, who lied about me in his new book, and he lied about me in court and the whole world now knows him to be a deluded fantasist. and he believed the evidence of alastair campbell, another proven liar who spun this country into an illegal war. finally, i want to say this prince harry's outrage at media intrusion into the private lives of the royal family is only matched by his own ruthless , matched by his own ruthless, greedy and hypocritical enthusiasm for doing it himself . enthusiasm for doing it himself. if he talked today about the appalling behaviour of the press . but this is a guy who has repeatedly trashed his family in

for public hundreds of millions of dollars, even as two of its most senior and respected members were dying. >> his grandparents. it's hard to imagine , frankly, more to imagine, frankly, more appalling behaviour than that. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth , the duke has good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself. >> for smearing the royal family. his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims i >> -- >> he also says he's on a mission to reform the media. when it's become clear his real mission , along with his wife, is mission, along with his wife, is to destroy the british monarchy and i will continue to do whatever i can to stop them. >> you look very merry christmas , mr morgan. has this been difficult for you? would you welcome a police investigation? are you worried about being convicted? >> astonishing >> absolutely. astonishing comments there. piers morgan .

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sunday mornings from 930 on gbillionews . gbillionews. >> welcome back. it's 322. you're watching or listening to me martin daubney on gbillionews . now later this hour we'll bnng . now later this hour we'll bring you an exclusive interview with denise fergus, the mother, of bulger , of course, of james bulger, after one of her son's killers was denied now prince was denied parole. now prince harry has been awarded more than £140,000 in damages after a phone hacking case. the duke of sussex took the action against mirror group newspapers . as he

mirror group newspapers. as he says, it's a great day for truth, as well as accountability, and i'm joined in the studio by our royal correspondent cameron walker cameron. we have to start with that. frankly blistering speech that. frankly blistering speech that piers morgan just gave in reaction to earlier claims . if reaction to earlier claims. if we thought piers was going to be meek and mild, that didn't happen. >> absolutely. so just to recap, the judge in prince harry's case against mirror group newspapers ruled piers morgan knew ruled that piers morgan knew about phone hacking. well piers morgan, in a very strongly worded statement outside his house in london, uh, fought back, i think is a good way to describe it. he he absolutely denies any knowledge of phone hacking. uh, in in that in any of the articles written about in this, uh , this litigation this, uh, this litigation against mirror group newspapers, he says he has never hacked a phone. he's never instructed anyone to do so either. but then he went on the attack . he he went on the attack. he attacked omid scobie, prince harry's, uh, unofficial

biographer . harry's, uh, unofficial biographer. let's harry's, uh, unofficial biographer . let's say, uh, biographer. let's say, uh, saying that he lied about him. as in piers , uh, in his new book as in piers, uh, in his new book called end game. he also went on to the attack of alastair campbell, accusing him of being a proven liar. campbell, accusing him of being a proven liar . and then he went a proven liar. and then he went on the attack, um, about prince harry himself saying that harry is outrage juice. he spoke of the fact how outrageous it was that he was talking and criticising about the royal family as prince philip and the late queen were dying. so really strong words there from piers morgan, former editor of the daily mirror. >> yeah. and he rounded off by saying prince harry claims his mission is to reform the press. i thought the most blistering line was the finale. his real mission is to destroy the royal family so if we thought piers morgan was going to come out and try and placate matters, try and put the fire out, that's the opposite of what happened. this is rev things up once again. cameron. >> absolutely. and it's going to be really interesting to see

where all the different authorities from here. authorities go from here. prince harry, his statements harry, in his statements delivered via lawyer david delivered via his lawyer david sherborne outside court sherborne outside the court earlier on, um called upon the metropolitan police and prosecuting authorities to a investigate. be bring charges against the company and those who he thinks have broken the law. now, i have asked the metropolitan police for a statement following the duke of sussex. at the moment. the answer is no comment. but of course , never say never. mirror course, never say never. mirror group newspapers have responded themselves. a spokesperson says that they apologise unreservedly for the historical wrongdoing , for the historical wrongdoing, owing to prince harry and the other high profile figures in this case. just to recap, prince harry, 15, of the 33 articles tested in this case, the judge has ruled harry is a victim of unlawful information gathering , unlawful information gathering, including phone hacking. uh blagging or so—called deceiving to get information and of use of private investigators. he's been awarded £140,600 in damages. >> and a lot of those stories,

cameron, were of a very, very personal nature, particularly about harry's drug taking and his partying, his personal life. you understand , to be fair, you can understand, to be fair, why harry would feel pretty aggrieved by stories of that nature, particularly around the drug and his drug taking and his international travel, his royal status. understand why status. you can understand why he'll to them. he'll take objection to them. >> absolutely. and was >> yeah, absolutely. and i was inside when prince inside the courtroom when prince harry his evidence, harry was giving his evidence, and he was clearly upset at times , having to about very times, having to talk about very personal his life. personal moments in his life. these talk about his these articles do talk about his private life. you talked about the alleged drug use. of course, but his relationships with but also his relationships with his , his brother prince his family, his brother prince william and ex—girlfriend chelsy davy. he partly blames the press for the breakdown in that relationship with his former girlfriend, chelsy davy. so he's clearly angry. but this is clearly very angry. but this is just the start of, i think, of a long battle for prince harry. yes he's partly won his, um. he his case against mirror group newspapers , he has newspapers, but he still has a number of other civil cases against newspapers for against other newspapers for publishers to go. associated newspapers, publisher the newspapers, publisher of the daily mail and news group

newspapers publisher of the sun and the now defunct news of the world. he accuses them as world. he he accuses them as well information well of unlawful information gathering, public nations gathering, both public nations deny those allegations, but the trials to happen next trials are going to happen next year the year after. year and the year after. >> a good news day for >> it was a good news day for a while for prince harry, he was victorious. i slayed a dragon and now , now this repost, this and now, now this repost, this retort, this, this fire across the bow from piers morgan that changes things. >> well, i think it's certainly a battle which prince harry and piers morgan are not going to back down to. if you remember, prince, piers morgan was forced to step back from his role at itv's good morning britain following that oprah interview where meghan accused an unnamed member of the royal family of questioning colour archie's questioning what colour archie's skin would be when he was born. piers publicly said he piers morgan publicly said he did anything . meghan did not believe anything. meghan said that oprah interview said during that oprah interview event. he refused to apologise and he left itv . then of course, and he left itv. then of course, we get to omid scobie's book where these two so—called royal racists are named in the book

and prince harry. sorry, piers morgan goes on the attack of omid scobie as well, so it's all very messy and a lot more battles to come. i fear. >> superb. thanks for a great update as ever, cameron walker in our brand new studio in westminster . now specialist westminster. now specialist divers searching for missing mother of three gaynor lord have found a body in the river wensum in norwich. and let's speak now to our national reporter, theo chikomba a full update of chikomba for a full update of the latest . theo, what's the the latest. theo, what's the latest that's going on there? quite harrowing breakthrough . quite harrowing breakthrough. now >> yes, indeed . well, in the >> yes, indeed. well, in the last hour we heard from superinten dent, the chief here, david buckley, who gave an update to the press in the last houn update to the press in the last hour, uh, confirming that this remains a missing persons inquiry and that gaynor did not meet anyone on the way to this area. but the cause of death is still yet to be confirmed off the body that they have found ,

the body that they have found, although they haven't given any formal identification at the moment. and as we've seen in the last few days, the focus has been the path that she took on the way to this area. and of course, this park, wensum park, the river just behind me on my the riverjust behind me on my right shoulder is where we've seen the diving teams. right shoulder is where we've seen the diving teams . uh, going seen the diving teams. uh, going into the water from in the morning into the evening for the last couple of days. and today they made their way around 200m in this in that direction , on to in this in that direction, on to my right, which heads towards the city centre. and there they found a body and confirmed that just after midday today. and they're saying a post—mortem is going to take place and that there's no evidence of third party in involvement and just follow that press conference this afternoon saw some members of the public who were here to lay flowers, as well. and we heard from leslie mcauley , a heard from leslie mcauley, a local resident. and this is what she had to say . she had to say. >> yes, it still feels the same.

um yeah. it's just all devastating . and i just wish, devastating. and i just wish, still wish that she's going to be found safe. >> safe? yeah it's a very sad day. >> and i just wanted to come and lay some flowers because it's been there with me and my heart since friday. >> as you can imagine , it's all >> as you can imagine, it's all we need. >> thank you. all right. >> thank you. all right. >> for members of the community in this area, there have been keeping their eyes on what's been happening for the last few days. this entire park has been closed members of the closed off to members of the public, and it remains the for , public, and it remains the for, case for now, police presence in is still here. and they're saying they're going to continue. uh, search, searching for anything that might help them as part of their investigation. but for now, though, the police say it remains a missing persons inquiry . we thank you for that update. >> theo chikomba live in norwich . i've got lots more on the way

between now and 4:00, and there's a warning that brits are facing a heightened risk after a hamas plot to murder jews in hamas plot to murderjews in europe was disrupted by european police . but first, here's your police. but first, here's your latest news headlines with lisa hartle . hartle. >> it's just after half three. i'm lisa hartle in the gb newsroom . i'm prince, harry says newsroom. i'm prince, harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability . after being accountability. after being awarded more than £140,000 in damages over phone hacking claims against a tabloid newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspapers between 2006 and 2011. in response, the publisher says they apologise unreservedly where historical wrongdoing took place, the judge also said journalists were involved in phone hacking, whilst piers morgan worked at the daily mirror. but the former editor claims he has never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone. as for him saying

this is a good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family, his own family , as royal family, his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims . a british disgraceful claims. a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago in france should be able to return to his family in the uk tomorrow. that's according to french officials who've been working with uk police on the situation . alex police on the situation. alex battye, who is now 17, went missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe he was abducted by his mother to leave an alternative lifestyle abroad . an alternative lifestyle abroad. police say there is no evidence of third party involvement after a body was found in a river dunng a body was found in a river during the search for a missing mother of three in norwich.

gaynon mother of three in norwich. gaynor, lord went missing after leaving work in norwich city centre last friday. norfolk police say the body hasn't been formally identified. the force says it remains open minded to the circumstances of the 55 year old's disappearance , and will old's disappearance, and will continue to pursue all lines of inquiry . you can get more on all inquiry. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com . website gbnews.com. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gbp news financial report . the gbp news financial report. here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you $1.2716 and ,1.1645. the price of gold is £1,603.15 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7578 points. >> rosalind gold proudly

sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> now migrants have died and another is in a critical condition after a boat sank in the channel the french coastguard was alerted to a boat with more than 60 migrants on board in difficulty. around five miles off the northern french coast. i can speak now to our home and security editor, mark white. mark, um , a terrible white. mark, um, a terrible tragedy, yet one that seems almost inevitable. what would the time of year the conditions and the continued perilous attempts across the channel uh, struggle to hear what you were saying there, but i can certainly recap what happened in the early hours of this morning. >> the rescue services in france got the word that this migrant boat that had headed off from the beach at gravlin , which is the beach at gravlin, which is near dunkirk , it was about five near dunkirk, it was about five miles offshore when it began to

sink when the rescue services got there, they found that the entire one side of the boat , entire one side of the boat, it's basically made up, of course, of two very large inner tubes down each side of the boat, which the migrants sit on. one of those inner tubes had completely deflated, and dozens of migrants were thrown into the water, and the pitch black and the freezing cold water of the engush the freezing cold water of the english channel. so a full scale emergency, a search and rescue operation, uh, swung into action. then, with five french vessels, a uk coastguard helicopter later also brought in to help out and the within about an hour, we're told 66 people were pulled from the water and put on to those rescue craft . put on to those rescue craft. but one woman who was unconscious was worked on by medics on the vessel for quite some time, but they were unable

to revive her as she was declared dead. another migrant we don't know at this stage whether that was a man or a woman was also , though flown to woman was also, though flown to hospital unconscious . s they are hospital unconscious. s they are described as being in a critical condition at this time . um, now, condition at this time. um, now, as far as the actual investigation is concerned, that's ongoing. what we quite often find is that at this time often find is that at this time of the year, when the swells get up in the english channel, they pack these migrant boats out with more than 60 odd. on this occasion , at least 66 on board occasion, at least 66 on board this vessel . occasion, at least 66 on board this vessel. um, it can just give away at the seams because these boats are not sturdy in these boats are not sturdy in the slightest . and then when the slightest. and then when they're packed out, when they're in swells, being hit by waves, then that can be enough to rip them apart at the scenes and seams and to deflate in this way. we saw just last month

another tragedy with two migrants, a man and a woman drowning in a very similar incident. and it follows multiple other similar incidents in the last couple of years . uh, in the last couple of years. uh, clearly it's something that the uk government says as a priority. it wants to tackle. that's why it's determined to push through the rwanda scheme . push through the rwanda scheme. >> okay. mark white, thank you for that update on a harrowing incident in the channel. now gb news has sat down with the mother of murdered toddler james bulger . mother of murdered toddler james bulger. denise fergus spoke of her work to overhaul the uk's parole system if vulnerable girls . girls. >> these people who were saying, you know, let it go if he went and killed one of their kids, they'd be saying to me, you should have fought harder

portillo, gbillionews. >> britain's new . >> britain's new. channel. >> britain's new. channel. >> welcome back. it's 341. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news at 4:00. i'll have the latest on the migrant crisis as rishi sunak prepares a whole talks with the leaders of italy and albania . now the mother of albania. now the mother of murdered toddler james bulger has warned parents that their children will never be safe if the parole system isn't overhauled. while james's killers, jon venables, was denied freedom by the parole board this week after a 30 year old fight to keep him behind bars. denise fergus sat down with gb news presenter eamonn

holmes . with gb news presenter eamonn holmes. denise says she's finally got justice for her son, but venables could appeal and get another parole hearing within just two years. >> he was taken just two weeks shy of his third birthday. i can see him in the lads that i've got now , you know, because they got now, you know, because they all look so similar. got now, you know, because they all look so similar . you know, all look so similar. you know, the last thing he asked for when i asked him what wanted for i asked him what he wanted for his was a birthday his birthday was a birthday cake. didn't that cake. he didn't get that birthday but love birthday cake, but you'd love the to him the chance to give him a birthday cake. got you on his ba.2 when he was first taken. i did place a birthday cake on his resting place for you know, it . resting place for you know, it. it should have been in front of his face. >> on the 12th of february 1993, robert thompson and jon venables kidnapped , tortured and killed kidnapped, tortured and killed two year old james bulger in liverpool. it was one of the most shocking crimes in modern british history. the toddler's murderers were both just ten years old. a lot of people will know what has happened to james,

but they don't really know. they don't really know the detail. they don't really know what was in venables and thompson's head and what motivated them and what made them the way they were . made them the way they were. what do you think this tells us about society , about what's about society, about what's available online, about grooming, what's the lesson to be learned? >> there's a lot now that you know, kids can learn through, you know, social media and stuff like that. but there was nothing like that. but there was nothing like that. but there was nothing like that back then. there was no mobile phones or not. and so, you know, just taking that out of the you know, the question, you know, it's just pure evilness on their behalf. >> how sick are they? were they a can't call them sick because the sick people out there who need doctors and nurses, they don't they just they don't deserve anyone's time. >> you know what they did ? they >> you know what they did? they took a baby's life and destroys his family's lives in the process of it. >> and they didn't just take his life. they tortured him. yeah

that's the most horrendous way that's the most horrendous way that they could have taken a child . you see, that's the bit child. you see, that's the bit that i find really difficult. there could have been an accident out. they could have pushed him over. there could have been something that went wrong. he hit head. but wrong. and he hit his head. but they didn't. they they dwelt on this for time. this for a long time. >> the plans to do that, what they they tried to they done is they tried to abduct kid two weeks before . abduct a kid two weeks before. so, you know, they took that kid to two weeks before. james is still being here, no doubt. but you know carefully planned you know the carefully planned that it was premeditated . so that it was premeditated. so they knew that they were going out that day to take a child's life. john venables was released on licence in 2001, but recalled to prison nine years later after indecent images of children were found on his computer. >> he was again released in 2013, only to be put behind bars again for the same offence . this again for the same offence. this time the parole board were taking no chances . denise, when

taking no chances. denise, when you got the phone call yesterday to say that venables was not being released , how did that being released, how did that feel? i was kind of numb. >> i think i still am, and steve's the shock because after 30 years i finally feel like i'm getting listened to now and everything that i've said in the past, you know, it's rung true because i did say if the two of them weren't properly punished for the crime that they committed, the only spent just over seven years in a young offenders , he never went to an offenders, he never went to an aduu offenders, he never went to an adult prison and i did say if they don't spend any time in a properjail they don't spend any time in a proper jail either one or both of them will go on to reoffend and commit more crimes. and i was proven right with venables, where do we go from here? >> denise venables is detained again, but it could only be maybe for two years. you might have to go through all of this again. >> i've come 30 years fighting justice for james and you >> i've come 30 years fighting justice forjames and you know >> i've come 30 years fighting justice for james and you know , justice for james and you know, i'll do it for as long as i need

to do it. but as long as i can do it, um, until i get the proper justice, do it, um, until i get the properjustice, i feel like i've got some kind of justice for them now, because he's been denied parole. and, know, denied parole. and, you know, i am getting the patterns of, you know, some mps now, dominic raab and, uh, alex chalk you know, what they've been saying to me , what they've been saying to me, they've stood by their words and, you know, the they've helped me get some kind of justice, which i've never had before. government is before. the government is pushing through an overhaul of the parole system with new laws allowing ministers to block the release of the most dangerous criminals. just feels like criminals. it just feels like now i'm just getting support from, you know, the mps because this is the first time i've got to actually got to meet, meet them and, you know, they've stuck to what they've told me. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what would you say , denise, >> what would you say, denise, to people? this is not me saying this, but i know there will be people watching and listening to us and say , say, for goodness us and say, say, for goodness sake . venables and thompson were sake. venables and thompson were ten years old at the time. they

were. they were babies themselves . how can you keep themselves. how can you keep going on punishing them? >> one of them needs punishing because he's behind bars again. if venables gets out , let's make if venables gets out, let's make him an example. if he gets out, these people who were saying, well, you were only ten, you know, you know, it's been 30 years let it go. should years now. let it go. why should i he was my son. he's not i want? he was my son. he's not here to speak for himself. so i'm doing a forum. and to if venables get out, these venables does get out, these people saying, you people who were saying, you know, go. if he went and know, let it go. if he went and killed one of their kids, they'd be saying to me, you should have fought i mean, i know fought harder. i mean, i know you've you know, you've you've become a you know, you've got grandchild now. got another grandchild now. congratulations way. congratulations by the way. thank i see pictures you thank you. i see pictures of you with grandchildren . i can't with your grandchildren. i can't do . do that. >> where are you at? denise, if i was to ask you now, here we are in 2023. we're heading into christmas . what state are you in? >> i'm not in any state. i'm in a good place. i've got , you a good place. i've got, you know, my husbands, my three boys. i've got my family, my

granddaughter. boys. i've got my family, my granddaughter . you know, i've. granddaughter. you know, i've. i'm in a happy place. the only time i'm not is when something like this occurs and i've got to take on another fight. but it's my choice and i'll carry on doing it. >> do you live forjames? >> do you live for james? >> do you live for james? >> i live for my lads. all. all of my lads. >> so you're not going to be simply defined by this one horrible, evil aspect of your life? >> no, because i'm tupy. i think i'm two people. um i'm a mum , i'm two people. um i'm a mum, but i'm also a campaigner. i'm two people. um i'm a mum, but i'm also a campaigner . and, but i'm also a campaigner. and, you know, for as long as i've got breath in me, i will carry on campaigning to get justice not just for me, but for anyone who needs it out there and for people who will say a prayer for you this christmas . you this christmas. >> what would you say to them ? >> what would you say to them? >> what would you say to them? >> i'd say say a prayer for james. >> say a prayer for venables and thompson. no >> why not? they don't need prayers. >> do people who say they need understanding, they need forgiveness. it's . the they

forgiveness. it's. the they basically they get forgiveness . basically they get forgiveness. >> but one chose. he didn't want that forgiveness and carries on doing what he wants to do . he's doing what he wants to do. he's not just a child megxit. he's also a paedophile . so they don't also a paedophile. so they don't deserve any good. they've been given too many chances, especially venables . you know, especially venables. you know, he's been given chance after chance. he's been given chance after chance . this new rehabilitation, chance. this new rehabilitation, new names, this, that and the other loads of money spent on them. you know, he didn't deserve that. but he got it and he's ended up back in prison. >> is there anything any thing at all venables could do to that? would lift him in terms of your estimation ? yeah. your estimation? yeah. >> stay in prison .

>> so astonishing interview. i thought that was an absolutely fabulous piece of work there by eamonn holmes asking difficult questions such questions, but getting a lot out and i think that was excellent, really makes you think. now to a warning that the uk is facing a period of heightened risk after a hamas plot to murder jews in europe plot to murderjews in europe was disrupted by intelligence agencies, three people were arrested in denmark , three in arrested in denmark, three in germany and another in the netherlands. german officials revealed that four of the seven suspects are indeed members of hamas , and i'm joined now by a hamas, and i'm joined now by a reporter , charlie peters. reporter, charlie peters. charlie . that in itself is charlie. that in itself is harrowing enough, but i guess my question to you is we've seen warnings recently to be on extra special alerts, particularly around christmas markets. is there an increased terror risk of this kind of attack by hamas operatives happening here in the uk ? uk? >> well, the joint terrorism analysis centre has not raised

the threat level in britain, but at the same time, counter—terrorism cops in london andindeed counter—terrorism cops in london and indeed across britain are issuing warnings for people to remain especially vigilant around the christmas period . the around the christmas period. the danish police indeed said the same earlier this month , just same earlier this month, just weeks before they made these arrests last night, and it's worth stressing that of the seven arrests last night, only four have been named as affiliated with hamas. and that's those prosecuted by the germans. three arrests in germany and one in rotterdam in the netherlands. there are some clarification from the danish side. last night saying that while the planned attack that they foiled was linked to the conflict in israel and gaza, they do not believe that there is a link to hamas at this stage . hamas have also denied any affiliation with any of those arrested in europe last night because this would suggest a significant change in the

tactics and procedures of the terrorist organisation. you can bet this morning that the security agencies across europe, andindeedin security agencies across europe, and indeed in britain , will be and indeed in britain, will be briefing this as vital intelligence. this is a significant threat to life in europe because for many years hamas have confined their operations to the middle east, particularly in lebanon , of particularly in lebanon, of course, but also in the gaza strip and the west bank, focusing in on israel. so if there is this plot developing in europe and this attack appears to have been foiled, where weapons were being shipped to berlin for an attack on jewish institutions , then that would institutions, then that would mark a vital and very menacing shift in hamas strategy. so security experts telling . gb security experts telling. gb news this morning that there is a heightened risk to britain marking that change in procedure. but it stands, no procedure. but as it stands, no official warning from official updated warning from the britain on the authorities in britain on the authorities in britain on the threat from hamas. the terrorism threat from hamas. okay charlie peters, thank you for that update.

>> and i'm still joined in the studio here by our political edhon studio here by our political editor, chris. this is an issue that politically has become a hot potato, particularly around the policing, the fear. there are two tier policing suella braverman, of course, was very adamant that there was two tier policing. but how how sensitive is this politically? >> well, very. and we are seeing increasingly the uk government is taking action against members of . there's two days ago of hamas. there's two days ago the uk government put restrictions on travel and where people can go from hamas. six members of hamas were sanctioned, including the leader mahmoud are mahmoud zahar. so they are looking squeezing that mahmoud zahar. so they are lookterrorist squeezing that mahmoud zahar. so they are lookterrorist group ueezing that mahmoud zahar. so they are lookterrorist group .eezing that mahmoud zahar. so they are lookterrorist group . as:ing that mahmoud zahar. so they are lookterrorist group . as besthat that terrorist group. as best they can in terms of, of diplomatically . but there must diplomatically. but there must be concerns in the uk of any kind of rival attacks or being foiled , as you saw there in foiled, as you saw there in denmark and germany . certainly. denmark and germany. certainly. i felt i certainly felt many felt that the tension around remembrance sunday was getting very, very intense indeed. i think it has calmed down since then, but the risk must always

remain okay, chris, thank you very much for that update. >> now, piers morgan has come out fighting after the judge in prince harry's case. court case accepted evidence that he knew journalists were involved in the practice and indeed, he gave a press statement on his doorstep not so long ago. and he said, to be clear, i have zero knowledge of that story. obe scobie lied about me in court. he also laid into alastair campbell, who he called a proven liar, and he rounded off by saying prince harry's mission isn't to clean up the press. his real mission is to destroy the royal family. an extraordinary statement . an extraordinary statement. we'll have much more on that in the next hour. i'm martin daubney on gb news and this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. welcome to your latest

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weekend as well, with highs of around 13 degrees across around 12 to 13 degrees across the uk, which is quite high for this time of year. however, the persistent rain across scotland will continue through saturday night won't relent all the night and won't relent all the way through sunday as well. so we do have an amber rain warning in force for parts of the highlands and into argyll, as well a yellow warning as well. more widely that rain will sink southwards into monday and tuesday to more southern areas of the allowing cooler air of the uk, allowing cooler air to arrive in the north looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers . sponsor of >> boxt boilers. sponsor of weather on gbillionews

>> good afternoon , it's 4 pm. >> good afternoon, it's 4 pm. i'm martin daubney bringing you all the latest headlines from our westminster studios as prime minister rishi sunak is in italy for an immigration conference with right wing leaders. but as elon musk makes a surprise appearance, i'll ask is rishi doing a nick clegg and gearing up for a plum silicon valley job after he loses the next general election? i've slayed a dragon, says prince harry as he wins an historic £140,000 privacy case against the mirror group . against the mirror group. cameron walker will join me live in the studio to give me all the very latest, including that blistering press conference from piers morgan shortly and a while ago now, as police in europe

make seven arrests to stop hamas attacks on jewish targets, we'll ask this is a terror threat in the uk rising shortly. peters will bring us up to speed and remember . and remember, we want remember. and remember, we want to hear from you . please do get to hear from you. please do get in touch with your opinions. the all the usual ways gbviews@gbnews.com will read out the best points during the show. but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . martin. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. it's just gone 4:00 i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom . gb newsroom. >> well our top story this hour. prince harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability. >> after being awarded more than £140,000 in damages over phone hacking claims against a tabloid newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspapers between 2006 and

2011. >> in response, the publisher says they apologised unreservedly for any historical wrongdoing. the judge also said journalists were involved in phone hacking at the time. piers morgan worked for the daily mirror, but the former editor claims he has never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone . hack a phone. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent as someone who recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california face, he california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press , but refuses to accept any press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims as well. >> piers morgan's comments come in response to a statement made by prince harry's lawyer. earlier, david sherborne this case is not just about hacking, it is about a systemic practice of unlawful and appalling behaviour followed by cover ups

and destruction of evidence. >> the shocking scale of which can only be revealed through these proceedings . the court has these proceedings. the court has found that mirror group's principal board directors, their legal department, senior executives and editors such as piers morgan clearly knew about or were involved in these illegal activities well. >> elsewhere, a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago in france should be able to return to his family in the uk tomorrow. that's according to french officials who have been working with uk police the situation . alex police on the situation. alex batty, who went missing in 2017, is now 17 himself after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe he was abducted by his mother to live an alternative lifestyle abroad . an alternative lifestyle abroad. here in the uk, police say there is no evidence of third party involvement after a body was found in a river during their search for a missing mother of

three. lord missing three. gaynor lord went missing in last friday with cctv in norwich last friday with cctv footage showing her leaving work. norfolk police say the body hasn't been formally identified, but her family have been notified . the force says it been notified. the force says it remains open minded about the circumstances of the 55 year old's disappearance , and will old's disappearance, and will continue to pursue lines of continue to pursue all lines of inquiry . the home secretary says inquiry. the home secretary says the government must and will do more after one person has died in the english channel. another is still in a critical condition. a boat carrying migrants sank about five miles off the coast of dunkirk overnight. more than 60 people were also rescued .james were also rescued. james cleverly described the incident as a horrific reminder of the people smugglers brutality . and people smugglers brutality. and the relatives of two people killed at a london music venue have renewed their appeal for information. one year on from a fatal crush , 23 year old fatal crush, 23 year old security guard gabby hutchinson and 33 year old rebecca ikumelo were killed when fans without tickets tried to force their way

into brixton academy. the metropolitan police has released cctv images of people that they are looking to speak to about the incident, and confirmed that one arrest has been made . the one arrest has been made. the parents of rebecca say they want justice. >> we don't know what happened to her. we don't know how, how she died and we're still waiting for information. uh as to how this happened and, um , i mean, this happened and, um, i mean, the most important thing is, uh , the most important thing is, uh, we don't want this to happen to another family. >> this is gb news across the uk. we're on your tv, in your car, digital radio, and on your smart speaker. now though. more from . martin. from. martin. >> thank you. sam. now we start with the latest on the migrant crisis and rishi sunak will meet italian prime minister giorgia meloni this weekend for talks on immigration. sunak and meloni met in october to discuss

efforts to coordinate an international response to migration . well, i'm joined now migration. well, i'm joined now in our studio by political editor christopher hope . chris, editor christopher hope. chris, it would seem like a good idea . it would seem like a good idea. giorgia meloni has a fantastic deal with albania. um, she's stopping the boats, getting into italy by just turning them over to albania . the spent money to albania. the spent money there on containment centres with high security, fantastic idea. why don't we do the same ? idea. why don't we do the same? >> well we do, we do our rwanda plan, which is deporting people arriving here legally be to arriving here legally to be to be processed in rwanda. and they can't 5000 miles away. can't come back 5000 miles away. we've for this kind of we've gone for this kind of massive bazooka. in a sense. the idea when you if you get idea is if when you if you get here legally, you're flown 5000 miles to the of miles away to the heart of africa, and have to africa, and then you have to take your chances there. really. although there's obviously the rwanda saying rwanda government is saying they'll protected they'll be protected and kept made the made safe there. so the different idea offshore different idea is offshore processing, germany processing, which what germany is at, uh, has is looking at, uh, italy has done with albania and in fact, i think i sense that labour could even towards policy even go towards that policy ahead of the election. they've got answer around if

got no real answer to around if rwanda, starts to work, rwanda, rwanda starts to work, they stop that scheme they will stop that scheme working. the idea of working. but the idea of offshore is quite offshore processing is quite attractive, i think, to politicians, because currently attractive, i think, to politi

polishing cv a of polishing up his cv a sort of a sort of superannuated nick clegg on , working hand on steroids, working hand in hand chum elon musk in hand with his chum elon musk in the future, in silicon valley. >> it's a bit cynical. martin even me. i've been around even for me. i've been around the around the block the i've been around the block a few in westminster. few times in westminster. i mean, course, if you mean, yes, of course, if you lose election next year, he lose the election next year, he may not around as an mp. he may not hang around as an mp. he may not hang around as an mp. he may stay on theresa may stayed on stay on. but if he on others stay on. but if he leaves may feel leaves politics, he may feel his future in california , where future is in california, where he's got a home where elon musk is based and ai is a key part of elon future business. elon musk's future business. elon musk's future business. elon musk's future business. elon musk came over, went to bletchley park, george maloney went park for that went to bletchley park for that meeting about al. there's meeting about al. so there's a bit a kind of three of bit of a kind of the three of them get on very well. certainly. sunak maloney certainly. sunak and maloney got on indeed. they met at on very well indeed. they met at the in italy, the kind of the g20 in italy, the kind of same age. and i think we need our the european our friends in the european union. we're using union. and we're using quite cleverly, think, to cleverly, i think, maloney to get and he's a right wing get to get and he's a right wing leader. good there's leader. so good a good there's lots common cause and on lots of common cause and on migration no question the italian seen as italian coastline is seen as being porous as the uk being as porous as the uk southern border. >> it's interesting we spoke

>> and it's interesting we spoke to earlier on who's to paola diana earlier on who's a commentator on italian politics, she was saying to politics, and she was saying to us no resistance us that there was no resistance in italian media from the in the italian media or from the italian to public the offshore containment idea in albania, because the process is the, the, the, the arrivals of boats is so visible, so unfair , crime is so visible, so unfair, crime is so rife . and yet . here rishi seems rife. and yet. here rishi seems to bow to the criticism or be shy away from it in a way that suella braverman wasn't. do you think, um, miracles might happen and rishi might go to italy and come back tough? >> christmas time, martin. >> it's christmas time, martin. miracles think . miracles might happen. i think. i sunak does understand i think mr sunak does understand the tension, anger, the the tension, the anger, the frustration amongst people about the unfairness small boats the unfairness of small boats arriving. says he's proud to arriving. he says he's proud to to son of a migrant to be be the son of a migrant family . he doesn't. he can family. he doesn't. he can definitely see why it needs to be with. think suella be dealt with. i think suella braverman space braverman was making space for him that, we'll find him to do that, and we'll find out enough. he says. the out soon enough. he says. the first flights take off in the spnng first flights take off in the spring to rwanda. there's a long road there first, though, road to get there first, though, and to ask you about that.

>> e- e— that. >> bat you've got rishi >> that bat you've got rishi sunak. i'd say every time you bet one pint of beer a bet one pint of beer that a single person won't go to rwanda, flight won't rwanda, a single flight won't fly before the next general election. is that safe? election. is that beer safe? >> less safe after election. is that beer safe? >> after less safe after election. is that beer safe? >> after this; safe after election. is that beer safe? >> after this week. after election. is that beer safe? >> after this week. iter election. is that beer safe? >> after this week. i think last. after this week. i think the fact that that went through with a 44 seat majority, the rwanda bill, there's opportunity with a 44 seat majority, the rwania bill, there's opportunity with a 44 seat majority, the rwania bill, tl'mz's opportunity with a 44 seat majority, the rwania bill, tl'mz's ofgeoffrey' now. i mean, i'm with geoffrey cox. things about cox. there's a few things about it. legal, legal, tax. he thinks is a better better than even chance of flights taking off in may. i think it's a less may. so i think it's a bit less safe. going hold my beer safe. i'm going to hold my beer a so it's a bit tighter so it's not grabbed by rishi sunak. >> well, i like your glass half full but think the full attitude, but i think the beer safe now. moving on beer is safe now. moving on to the the battle to stop the latest on the battle to stop migrants housed on the migrants being housed on the former essex, raf former raf base in essex, raf wethersfield, of course, could house as many as 1700 male asylum seekers . but the charity asylum seekers. but the charity care for calais is taking legal action against the government. it says its efforts are a bid to literally safeguard people's lives . well, i'm joined now by lives. well, i'm joined now by alan mckenzie , who is the chair alan mckenzie, who is the chair of the fields association.

thanks for joining of the fields association. thanks forjoining us on the thanks for joining us on the show, alan. alan, i think a lot of people will be quite confused here because people that live around the raf bases , both at around the raf bases, both at scampton and wethersfield , don't scampton and wethersfield, don't want military age men in their thousands to go to them and neither do the so—called friends of the asylum seekers care for calais. what were the reasoning of care for calais being against this . we just lost him . the this. we just lost him. the point i want to make if alan, if we get him back, is that care? care for calais basically agree with the people who live near bases. chris. let's talk about this in the studio. i find it astonishing that they want the same thing , but for very, very same thing, but for very, very different reasons. now, care for calais will maintain. i've read their press release that it's inhumane . their press release that it's inhumane. it's their press release that it's inhumane . it's not safe. it's inhumane. it's not safe. it's unfair for. but they actually want the same thing as people who want to stop the boats. well

that's right, calais are concerned about how they're treated. >> but of course this is this uk. i mean, i think they want to be housed somewhere. this seems like an appropriate solution to put in hotels. that's also a fence. communities it's fence. communities and it's difficult understand difficult to understand for many people who wonder why they can't get local hotels get into the local hotels at christmas, because it's got migrants staying in them. so i think there's a i think the often these, these, camps, often these, these, um, camps, chain public chain groups risk losing public support. from the support. they come from the right place. they trying to right place. they are trying to make. to deal make. they're trying to deal with situation in kaja with the situation in kaja kallas, trying to improve lives for in for people in calais in, in their camps as they wait to wait to over. but how much to to cross over. but how much to what are you damaging what extent are you damaging actually by taking actually your case by taking these legal challenges? actually your case by taking the well, al challenges? actually your case by taking the well, i've1allenges? actually your case by taking the well, i've been|ges? actually your case by taking the well, i've been|g> well, i've been a cynic about rishi sunak with elon musk, and i'm a cynic about i'm going to be a cynic about this too. i don't think that. care for calais. want to stop them going into raf bases. i think continue think they want to continue their model their business model of welcoming seekers to the welcoming asylum seekers to the uk and dotting them around the uk and dotting them around the uk communities that won't uk in communities that won't affect where they live . i think affect where they live. i think the bleeding hearts aren't necessarily always as their

first eye isn't on the welfare of people who, after all, are staying in barracks that have been perfectly hospitable for raf crews for many, many decades. >> it comes to the right place. i mean, care for calais is trying to look after people who are living, living homeless, really, before they're waiting to across the uk. what to come across the uk. but what point do charities start to point do the charities start to start to almost reinforce the behaviours they're trying to help? becomes a kind of help? so it becomes a kind of support service? i know lee support service? i know that lee anderson on home affairs anderson on the home affairs committee, when he's on that, went there. was concerned went out there. he was concerned not care not necessarily about care vehicle, generally what vehicle, but generally what he saw. concerned about saw. he was concerned about to what our groups what extent is of our groups helping migrants to come across what extent is of our groups helpirin migrants to come across what extent is of our groups helpirin fact,ints to come across what extent is of our groups helpirin fact, theyo come across what extent is of our groups helpirin fact, they should across what extent is of our groups helpirin fact, they should be 'oss when in fact, they should be trying to dissuade them from coming the place? coming in the first place? >> interesting, >> it's been interesting, political, >> it's been interesting, politi huge resistance from locals been huge resistance from locals wherever places are put wherever these places are put either at scampton , of course, wherever these places are put either the scampton , of course, wherever these places are put either the that's:on , of course, wherever these places are put either the that's the of course, wherever these places are put either the that's the famous se, that's the that's the famous site of the dambusters, huge historical significance and cultural in cultural significance in wethersfield essex , also at wethersfield in essex, also at linton on ouse, people don't want these in their backyard and yet the courts find in favour of this and the government seems to

be pressing ahead with this. despite the public resistance . despite the public resistance. this is another example. chris you think of the government being completely tin eared to the needs of locals to go somewhere. >> i mean, 17, 1700 adult somewhere. >> i mean, 17,1700 adult males >> i mean, 17, 1700 adult males is probably alarming for people living nearby, didn't know who they are and can they? are they able to free to associate with the community, walk around that? i idea of being i mean, it's the idea of being imposed on, but what the imposed on, but what are the alternatives? um. can't it's alternatives? um. you can't it's cold. you can't do camps. you can't do marquees. i mean, this is the best the government can do, i think to provide the government. i think hotels are much, much controversial much, much more controversial because be really because that that can be really disturbing for many, many different disturbing for many, many diffbutt calais then care for >> but in calais then care for calais, they're under calais, they they're under tarpaulins, they're calais, they they're under tarpaulins,they're tents, tarpaulins, they're in tents, they're may they're on beaches. and you may not good, but not think that's good, but that's situation. maybe that's the situation. maybe that's the situation. maybe that's they're so keen to that's why they're so keen to come to britain. that's why they're so keen to conyes, britain. that's why they're so keen to conyes, isritain. that's why they're so keen to conyes, i think. that's why they're so keen to conyes, i think certainly the >> yes, i think certainly the hotels are draw. um, i think hotels are a draw. um, i think having spartan having more spartan accommodation, mean , they were accommodation, i mean, they were looking wanting student looking at wanting a student accommodation , think during accommodation, i think during the season the holiday season in the summer. think is the summer. but i think this is the

best these i think we're going to see a lot more of these camps being used for housing migrants. i is the way it's i think this is the way it's going go they can deal going to go until they can deal with backlog rwanda with the backlog and get rwanda working, it's going to have to happen. >> but then the sort of sticking point they won't point of the notion they won't actually as it actually be contained as it were, to the premises, like in lynton anneliese. i went to linton i spoke linton on ouse and i spoke to many, families there. and many, many families there. and the about 150 people the it was about 150 people lived in this village and they were going to dump 6 or 700 military on a village military age men on a village with one fish chip with one fish and chip shop, didn't have pub, and they didn't even have a pub, and they were going to just to were going to be free just to wander in fact, they wander around. in fact, they were a free bus pass were getting a free bus pass into town, so the idea that they're imprisoned they're they're imprisoned in an inhumane manner isn't reality. in fact, be to in actual fact, they'll be to free to do what? free roam around to do what? >> that. >> nothing wrong with that. because they're they're not because they're not they're not criminals, they're criminals, are they? they're just people walking criminals, are they? they're just but people walking criminals, are they? they're just but i’eople walking criminals, are they? they're just but i guess walking criminals, are they? they're just but i guess italking criminals, are they? they're just but i guess it might around. but i guess it might feel a bit imposing to have a large number of people suddenly walking lack walking around and these a lack of of why they're of understanding of why they're there. it's probably down to there. so it's probably down to community to community leaders there to facilitate them facilitate meetings with them properly and ensure that

everyone about everyone feels relaxed about a difficult national situation. but it goes back to the beginning of heart of all beginning of the heart of all this why can't this this is why can't this government control borders? many voted european voted to leave the european union and union to control borders and borders and laws. it's not happening, it's failure on happening, and it's a failure on this government's and this government's part. and they will punished the will be punished at the election. i think year's election. i think next year's election. i think next year's election will immigration will be in and be a huge issue in it. and here's case point. here's a case in point. >> yeah. and if they stop the boats and they wouldn't need to put raf bases, they put them on raf bases, they wouldn't need to them in £8 wouldn't need to put them in £8 million hotels. but they're million a hotels. but they're measurably achieving measurably not achieving that. okay. chris. time okay. thanks, chris. that's time for british giveaway for the great british giveaway and treats and your chance to win treats tech and £10,000 in cash. and here's how you can start your new year with all of those superb prizes . superb prizes. >> you really could be the winner of the very first great british giveaway and receive nearly £12,000 worth of prizes from us. first, we've got a simply stunning £10,000 in tax free cash to give you cash that you can spend on anything you like. next, how about a new phone? you'll also get a brand

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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. welcome back. >> it's 421. you're watching or listening to me? martin daubney on gb news. now, later this houn on gb news. now, later this hour, we'll discuss the terrorist who's been jailed for 16 years after he plotted to murder christian speaker here murder a christian speaker here at speakers corner . now, prince at speakers corner. now, prince harry has been awarded more than £140,000 in damages after a phone hacking case. the duke of

sussex took the action against mirror group newspapers and hailed today's ruling as a great day for truth. as well as accountability. the judge also ruled that former editor of the daily mirror, piers morgan, both knew about and took part in phone hacking during his tenure at the paper. the broadcaster has, however, fiercely denied any claims he ever hacked a phone or ordered anyone else to do so . do so. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself. for smearing the royal family his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims . disgraceful claims. >> i think that is what you call not taking it lying down. now i'm joined in the studio by our royal correspondent cameron walker cameron. so it started as

a good news day for prince harry, and now it's all out bedlam again. >> well , bedlam again. >> well, piers morgan certainly doesn't mince his words does he. let's put it that way. yeah i mean piers morgan has very much fought back here. so just to recap, the judge ruled earlier today in prince harry versus mirror group newspapers that piers about phone piers morgan knew about phone hacking to some extent when he was editor of the daily mirror. piers morgan has denied that. in the statement , he says i have the statement, he says i have consistently said for many years now i've never hacked a phone or told anybody else to hack a phone, but then he very much went on the attack. he fought back first. he mentioned omid scobie, prince harry's unofficial, let's say, uh , or unofficial, let's say, uh, or a biographer , uh, calling him a biographer, uh, calling him a liar, saying that he lied about him in his new book. he then, um, called alastair campbell a proven liar. and then he went on the attack against prince harry himself, saying, it's an the attack against prince harry himself, saying , it's an outrage himself, saying, it's an outrage that prince harry is accusing the media of intruding on his

private life. but then he's intruded on the private lives of his own family members. and in fact, he very, uh , he says about fact, he very, uh, he says about the queen, the late queen and prince philip dying and prince harry going on. media interviews and talking about his problems within the royal family and he also says that prince harry and his wife, meghan are on a mission to destroy the royal family so strong words from him there. >> yeah, and while i was at it, a side swipe at alastair campbell, who he called a proven liar who led us into an illegal war, he said that the day was filled with allegations filled with false allegations spewed against me by those with an axe to grind. but the comment that saying that harry himself referred or branded the royal family callous rac tests without a shred of proof. that is, a is a shred of proof. that is, a is a low blow and that is really going to reignite this confrontation . confrontation. >> i think it certainly will. but what we have to remember is that all the accusations of royal racists or whatever happened within the couple

happened within the last couple of this mirror group of years, this mirror group newspapers with prince newspapers case with prince harry high profile harry and other high profile figures final article was figures. the final article was written in 2011. so we're talking decades old articles here and it is all about unlawful information gathering. prince harry accused mirror group newspapers of hacking his phone and blagging to get information about him, and using private investigators to get private investigators to get private information about him. the judge has ruled that 15 of the 33 articles written about prince harry in this case did indeed result from unlawful information gathering . the information gathering. the mirror group newspapers has apologised unreservedly for the historical wrongdoing and has paid prince harry £140,600 in damages. but i don't think it's about the money for prince harry. it's about having his day in court and taking his fight against the british media and trying to change way operate. >> and cameron, when look at >> and cameron, when you look at some the stories in question some of the stories in question that were obtained via nefaria ways, they're very sensitive to prince harry, um, his drug

taking, his love life with chelsea. um, you can see why he would have taken issue and wanted to go to court. but i wonder if the money isn't the point. it was meant to be a more moralistic battle against the press, but now piers morgan has just kicked that over. >> yeah, i mean, i was in the courtroom with prince harry for two days listening to him give his evidence. he was visibly upset at points. i think it clearly has affected him. lot clearly has affected him. a lot of as you say, of these articles, as you say, very to talking very personal to him talking about drug use, his about his alleged drug use, his the of his the breakdown of his relationship with chelsy davy. he on the media articles he blames on the media articles written very written about him. and he very much his day in court. he much wants his day in court. he seesit much wants his day in court. he sees it really as his life's mission to hold those people account . and this is only one of account. and this is only one of several court cases he has against different newspaper groups . he's against different newspaper groups. he's has separate claims against, uh, associated newspapers publisher of the daily mail and news group newspapers, publishers of the sun, both of sun, accusing them both of unlawful information gathering and trials for and were expecting trials for them , next and the year

them, uh, next year and the year after so we could well see prince harry back in a courtroom in having his day in in london, having his day in court again, delivering evidence. >> so certainly today, would you say, is round one to prince harry the legally we know he's won. he's got 240 grand. that won't make that's chump change won. he's got 240 grand. that wc somebody hat's chump change won. he's got 240 grand. that wc somebody like. chump change won. he's got 240 grand. that wcsomebody like him.np change won. he's got 240 grand. that wcsomebody like him. but hange won. he's got 240 grand. that wcsomebody like him. but d0|ge won. he's got 240 grand. that wcsomebody like him. but do you to somebody like him. but do you think piers morgan's, um, comments will come across . as comments will come across. as bitter and they'll bounce off prince harry's arm? or would they or will they once again, smart? because harry, or at least his brief took the decision to name piers decision to name check piers morgan statement, morgan in that statement, straight ruling. do straight after the ruling. do you think he regret that now? >> oh well, it's hard to say. it's only for harry to say he it's only for harry to say if he will regret or not. but what will regret it or not. but what i would say is that prince harry wasn't a full win because he wanted £440,000 mirror wanted £440,000 from mirror group newspapers. got group newspapers. he only got around that because around a quarter of that because only the articles were only some of the articles were found to be in breach of those laws. um, as for piers morgan , i laws. um, as for piers morgan, i think prince harry has won the battle, but he's certainly not won the war. when it comes to the press, there's a lot he

calls on metropolitan calls on the metropolitan police. of course, uh, to investigate such allegations. they anything at they are not saying anything at the we'll have to wait the moment. we'll have to wait and see. watch this space. martin. >> cameron will. superb. and it's certainly a right royal battle that's going to be raging it's certainly a right royal batnow.1at's going to be raging it's certainly a right royal batnow. democraticto be raging it's certainly a right royal batnow. democratic younis|ging on now. democratic younis party's officers on party's officers will meet on friday to discuss potential friday to discuss a potential return this comes return to stormont. this comes ahead round table ahead of another round table talk of sessions in hillsborough due monday . and although the due for monday. and although the dup are insisting this is more about the economic situation in northern rather than northern ireland rather than talks on the framework , well, talks on the framework, well, i'm joined now in the studio by northern ireland dougie northern ireland reporter dougie beattie . dougie, thanks for beattie. dougie, thanks for joining us the studio be beattie. dougie, thanks for joilast us the studio be beattie. dougie, thanks for joilast see the studio be beattie. dougie, thanks for joilast see a the studio be beattie. dougie, thanks for joilast see a breakthrough be beattie. dougie, thanks for joilast see a breakthrough inie at last see a breakthrough in these talks. >> well, no, i don't believe we will because what the talks are all about , the money that's all about, the money that's coming into northern ireland and how that's produced, that goes through the holtham, um, theory, uh, which says that how much you get over £100 per head that's spentin get over £100 per head that's spent in london, wales, get about 115 scotland get 129.

northern ireland is still running on the barnett consequentials. they really need that ceiling of about 58 million at the top end of it on each year's budget. otherwise the executive will just be short each and every year. and those pay each and every year. and those pay raises that they may fix with that check. >> now next year they'll not be able to support those pay raises because the money won't be there. but then we really have these separate talks going on with dup and westminster and with the dup and westminster and what the dup is really asking for is no longer in the gift of westminster. >> that's with the eu, because the framework document give away the framework document give away the foundations of the irish border to the eu. so things such as, uh, manufacturing to eu standards, those in northern ireland that 70% of their, their exports go to the uk, not into the eu. they're saying why should we have to manufacture to eu standards. the eu are saying, well that cannot go in uh, to the eu leaking across a borderless border. so manner factors are very unhappy with

that. things like we saw the other day of steadied the eu now agreeing what state aid northern ireland astonishing. yeah it's absolutely astonishing. britain has lost control of that inside part of the uk. and you know if the gigafactory that was built, it was built with, uh, state aid. and most companies, especially foreign direct investment companies , look for investment companies, look for a state aid package that'll take them up to 5 or 6 years in order to become established. well, northern ireland can't give that. so that will really start to push back those that want to give state aid. uh, and it will make sure that those companies don't invest in northern ireland. so there's quite a lot coming down the road. but there's talks about talks going on. so the first talks with the treasury, that's what we're looking at in monday because no matter what happens, the public sector needs uh, but sinn sector needs paid. uh, but sinn fein running out of patience fein is running out of patience and believe the and i do believe that the british at time british government at this time are worried that sinn fein are worried that that sinn fein are worried that that sinn fein

are to walk away from are going to walk away from these talks completely, which will in the will leave everything up in the air with assembly at all. and air with no assembly at all. and this . all goes back to the good this. all goes back to the good friday agreement where we talk about consent. so monday, may be about consent. so monday, may be a day the british government are really looking for a soft yes out of the dup to try and get them through christmas , but if them through christmas, but if those talks don't go well with the eu and the british government well, who knows what'll happen. >> superb analysis. great. so thank you dougie beattie always a pleasure. now there's lots more come between now a pleasure. now there's lots mor14:00. come between now a pleasure. now there's lots mor14:00. and)me between now a pleasure. now there's lots mor14:00. and there's:ween now a pleasure. now there's lots mor14:00. and there's aeen now a pleasure. now there's lots mor14:00. and there's a warning and 4:00. and there's a warning that facing that brits are facing a heightened risk after a hamas plot to murder jews in europe plot to murderjews in europe was disrupted. but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . martin sam francis. martin >> thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone half past four. the headlines prince harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability. after being awarded more than £140,000 in

damages over phone hacking claims against a tabloid newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspapers between 2006 and 2011. in response , the publisher 2011. in response, the publisher says they do apologise unreservedly for any historical wrongdoing. the judge also said journalist were involved in phone hacking at the time . piers phone hacking at the time. piers morgan worked for the daily mirror, but the former editor claims has never hacked a claims he has never hacked a phone told anyone to phone or told anyone else to hack phone. hack a phone. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california face, he california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family, his own family , as royal family, his own family, as a bunch of callous racists . a bunch of callous racists. without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims. as . disgraceful claims. as. a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago in france should be able to return to his

family in the uk tomorrow. >> that's according to french officials who've been working with uk police on the situation. alex battye, who is now 17, went missing after going on a missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe he was abducted by his mother to live an alternative lifestyle abroad. here . in the uk. police say here. in the uk. police say there is no evidence of third party involvement after a body was found in a river during their search for a missing mother of three. gaynor, lord went missing in norwich last friday, with cctv footage being released that showed her leaving work. norfolk police the work. norfolk police say the body hasn't been formally identified, her family have identified, but her family have been notified. the force says it remains open minded about the circumstances of the 55 year old's disappearance, and will continue pursue lines of continue to pursue all lines of inquiry. secretary says inquiry. the home secretary says the government must do the government must and will do more person has died more after one person has died in engush more after one person has died in english channel. another in the english channel. another is still in a critical condition. a boat carrying migrants sank about five miles off the coast dunkirk

off the coast of dunkirk overnight. more than 60 people were rescued . james cleverly has were rescued. james cleverly has described the incident as a horrific reminder of the people smugglers brutality . and you can smugglers brutality. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thanks, sam . now to a warning >> thanks, sam. now to a warning that the uk is facing a period of heightened risk after a hamas plot to murder jews in europe plot to murderjews in europe was disrupted by intelligence agencies. three people were arrested in denmark , three in arrested in denmark, three in germany and another in the netherlands. german officials . netherlands. german officials. revealed that four of the seven suspects are in fact members of hamas. well, i'm joined now by a reporter , charlie peters, for an reporter, charlie peters, for an update on this. charlie. so a successful sting across europe . successful sting across europe. the question i have for you is, should we be more on a heightened state of alert here in the uk. >> well, that's what security

experts have told gbillionews this morning, reacting to news of these arrests coming in last night . and the question really night. and the question really on their minds, and indeed, i imagine on the minds of many seniors in the security and intelligence agencies across europe, is have hamas gone global because previously their operations have been limited . to operations have been limited. to the west bank, to israel and of course, to the gaza strip, their main base of operations. they have not planned significant operations in europe or indeed in britain for many decades. but now this concern has been raised after this foiled plot in disrupted by intelligence . disrupted by intelligence. agencies in germany and indeed in denmark . agencies in germany and indeed in denmark. now the danish chiefs today stressing that they don't know of any links between hamas and those that they've arrested, they haven't confirmed that situation . but the german that situation. but the german prosecutor has been very clear,

making that direct link between the terror group based in gaza and those they've arrested yesterday, including two lebanese born . individuals and lebanese born. individuals and one egyptian citizen, it said that the links were well established with the armed wing of hamas and also that they were receiving direction from lebanon to carry weapons into berlin and specific german prosecutors claim to carry out attacks . on claim to carry out attacks. on jewish targets in berlin. now the jewish interior minister said that the protection of jews was their top priority and that also begs the question that hamas, which regularly is claiming to be targeting specifically . israeli targets, specifically. israeli targets, could now be targeting broadly jewish targets throughout europe and possibly even britain . and possibly even britain. >> and charlie, concerning news, there , we were told to be on there, we were told to be on heightened alert around christmas markets because of the significance cultural of them and of gatherings of people. um, and of gatherings of people. um,

and now now a report out yesterday saying 80% of british jews feel less safe. and this is specific only targeting synagogues , jewish schools that synagogues, jewish schools that will really add to the heightened sense of anxiety the jewish community is feeling in the uk and the community security trust, the charity that advises jewish institutions , advises jewish institutions, runs on their security, has said that the news last night of these arrests is concerning . these arrests is concerning. >> they said that they couldn't draw a direct link to the situation in britain . but we situation in britain. but we have heard, haven't we repeated warnings from british police and counter—terrorism cops for people to remain extra vigilant in britain at the moment. during christmas i think it's also worth stressing that the hamas official, who denied a link between his terrorist organisation and those arrests last night, two weeks ago, urged people to target american and british interests and that also comes two months after that so—called day of rage , on so—called day of rage, on october the 13th, when we did

see terror attacks in europe, a mass stabbing event in northern france. more recently, we've seen shootings in belgium and attacks elsewhere. so a heightened sense of security in europe, but also in britain as this conflict continues . this conflict continues. >> jolie peters, thank you. superb an update now just only 1 in 4 companies expect their staff to be in the office full time in the coming years. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news

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gbillionews is . gbillionews is. >> welcome back. it's 442. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now i'm joined by an expert panel. today in the studio we have the former bbc executive and presenter roger bolton and editor davies, who's the policy director the centre for director at the centre for social justice. got a few stories i've run through with the lads up first for discussion. the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, hails a victory. ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, hails a victory . for ukraine and hails a victory. for ukraine and europe as eu leaders agree to open membership talks with the ukraine. so the big question is should the ukraine be allowed to join the eu ? why don't we start join the eu? why don't we start with you, roger, on this one, there are many reasons why i think it's not such a good idea, but what's your take on this? well, i think you've got to look at this in the light of the fact

that president trump may be president trump again when he's talked about withdrawing from nato, he's very much well, i won't say opposed, but not enthusiastic for aid for ukraine. >> so it's not surprising. and he future of nato he questions the future of nato in present form. so it's not in its present form. so it's not surprising the ukrainians surprising that the ukrainians very part of the very much want to be part of the eu. own view is that they eu. my own view is that they should be, but not fast tracked. this a very dangerous this is a very dangerous situation , and i think that, you situation, and i think that, you know , slowly, slowly. know, slowly, slowly. >> but yes , we should give them >> but yes, we should give them hope we should in the hope and yes, we should in the end give them membership. >> we should be very careful i >> -- >> and a lot of people would say that reasons we shouldn't do that the reasons we shouldn't do this are manifest. first of all, um, trans currency international, which charts . international, which charts. global corruption, has ukraine at 116 of 180 countries. plus it's at war and it may further enrage putin, who's always said expanding the eu or expanding nato is a red line. with all of that in mind, surely it's not a good idea. i mean, i would certainly agree. >> i agree with roger that this

needs to be gently, gently, carefully, carefully. >> i certainly wouldn't fast track anything, but also because of the bigger picture of what's going on in the eu at the moment. i mean, the fact that hungary has come in and said, we're not happy about this doesn't just speak to hungary, it speaks to the fact that most members of the eu at the moment it speaks to the fact that most me|experiencing eu at the moment it speaks to the fact that most me|experiencing aj at the moment it speaks to the fact that most me|experiencing a huge re moment it speaks to the fact that most me|experiencing a huge shiftyment it speaks to the fact that most me|experiencing a huge shift inant are experiencing a huge shift in their politics, and i think what we're going over the next we're going to see over the next few years is, you know, more coalition governments. we're going to make going to see it harder to make decisions within their own countries. and so making decisions is decisions as an entire eu is just become harder and harder. so whether you want to jump into that, question that, i'd say as a question itself, it also just brings itself, but it also just brings into question how unified the eu itself, but it also just brings in'going stion how unified the eu itself, but it also just brings in'going sti(be. ow unified the eu is going to be. >> ten years from >> three, five, ten years from now. anyway >> you to look forward >> but you have to look forward to a possibility where is to a possibility where nato is no longer the nato. >> we thought was, where >> we once thought it was, where the guarantee that the american guarantee that has allowed spend on allowed us to spend less on defence in than in a way defence in europe than in a way we done. mean, we we should have done. i mean, we were better than most were better u.k. than most european. other european. all i think other european countries. but we may be a situation be moving to a situation where we can't rely on american

defence, and know we've got defence, and we know we've got a player in russia who well, player in russia who is well, we would most would say probably not the most rational who rational of people, who apparently up 16% gnp apparently is up to 16% of gnp he's on defence. and he's spending on defence. and that's see finland and that's why you see finland and a whole range of other countries saying, to be saying, whoops, we'd like to be neutral, moving towards saying, whoops, we'd like to be n

don't think that's fair. um, what i think is we should also have membership, of course have membership, but of course it have to qualify. but it will have to qualify. but if we we're actually not going we say we're actually not going to not to listen to you, we're not going to the chance to going to give the chance to qualify. mean, i don't know qualify. i mean, i don't know enough about ukraine, but clearly immense clearly there's been immense corruption. clearly there's a very delicate political situation we can situation there. if we can influence that towards a western democratic model in opposition to serbia to, well, what is effectively soviet communism and so on. i think we should do, but we should be very careful because, you know, we've always assumed that there are rational players here. i'm not sure how rational putin is in these situations. and he still has an immense set of missiles available. obviously , you available. but obviously, you know, like all dictators , he know, like all dictators, he pushes and pushes and if he gets his way there, he'll get his way, perhaps somewhere. finland latvia, elsewhere. sure, i'll have to push you on now to talk about our next topic, and edward little will be jailed for at least 16 years after planning an

act of terrorism on a christian preacher speaker's corner preacher at speaker's corner on september the 23rd, 222. >> the next topic i want to >> so the next topic i want to talk about, gentlemen, start with you. ed, is speaker's corner. speaker's corner meant to culturally to be historically, culturally a global epicentre of the freedom to speak. but incidents like this, i think, highlights a worrying trend that it's no longer become a place where you can freely speak. and in particular, we have to say there have been muslims policing this area and attacking christians. i put it to you that that speaker's corner is becoming censored. >> so free speech is one of those absolutely mandatory non—negotiables as far as i'm concerned. >> i think the law already goes too far on hate speech. i think, you know, i work for a think tank called the centre for social justice, and for us to make to make change, we have to fundamentally day by day challenge assumption society. >> and that will mean saying offensive saying offensive things, saying the wrong things, being challenged on and the on it and moving forward and the idea that we would censor that at corner all at speaker's corner of all places concerning . places is profoundly concerning. >> apart from anything else,

>> and apart from anything else, there's this movement at the moment looks back moment that sort of looks back at historical wrongs. you sort of back, you know, at slave of look back, you know, at slave trade and have rightly. trade and what have you rightly. it wrong. it was a historical wrong. i sit here every thinking 100 here every day thinking 100 years they're going to years from now they're going to look historical look at us and the historical wrongs are wrongs we've done. what are they? if we can't speak into they? and if we can't speak into society at the moment in a bold and brave way as to what is going wrong, then 100 years from now, we won't be able to do that. we will still be doing slavery. will doing slavery. we will still be doing those that back those things that we look back on the past. on now in the past. >> roger, what's your take on this? because undeniably, there there few there have been a few flashpoints speaker's corner flashpoints at speaker's corner and there is an atmosphere of fear to people. fear starting to envelop people. don't to speak. don't feel free to speak. they do threatened. do feel often threatened. >> do. i'm >> there. they do. i'm a hardliner this issue, exactly hardliner on this issue, exactly like defend this? like you. you defend this? absolutely. it in the absolutely. you defend it in the universities. you defend it elsewhere. do have elsewhere. i mean, you do have to ask questions such as, you know, with with the police having monitor so many having to monitor so many marches, cost so it marches, the cost and so on. it might be you know, might be that, you know, temporarily, take temporarily, you might take speakers corners out for out for a moment or whatever, a particular moment or whatever, or there was a very direct or if there was a very direct threat, but that could only be

temporary. i think temporary. no, i think i'm a hardliner on this. you defend free speech, you know, free speech, but you know, you've got be careful about you've got to be careful about not to people. and not to offend people. and necessarily argument necessarily that old argument about don't shout fire in the theatre, know, or whatever, theatre, you know, or whatever, and have be sensitive and you do have to be sensitive to mean, for example, to people. i mean, for example, i oven to people. i mean, for example, i over, you what's i think over, you know, what's gone east and so gone in the middle east and so on say jewish reaction on and say the jewish reaction to happened, i don't to what's happened, i don't think it's possible for us non—jews to understand the sort of and that, but it of trauma and that, but it shouldn't stop criticise shouldn't stop us. criticise housing, but it should make us more sensitive . so i think, you more sensitive. so i think, you know, it's free speech with sensitivity, but on issues such as should speakers corner continue? absolutely. we give that we've something that up. we've lost something essential about ourselves i totally agree. >> now gents, got a final topic here i'd like go through. and here i'd like to go through. and that's suggests that's this research suggests that's this research suggests that in 4 companies that only 1 in 4 companies expect their staff be the expect their staff to be in the office full time in coming office full time in the coming years. it time things years. isn't it time things started getting back to normal? do you think that since the pandemic, the kind of pyjama class, as it were, has got a bit used to working from home? companies want save money on companies want to save money on

offices , of course, but is it offices, of course, but is it going far ? going too far? >> i should declare an >> yeah, i should declare an interest a interest here that i am a recovering civil servant. am recovering civil servant. i am only six weeks clean and this was very big issue the was a very big issue in the civil the moment. civil service at the moment. i think feeling was, you know, think my feeling was, you know, occasionally home think my feeling was, you know, oc

here at 10:00. what do you do? it is important with the it is important things with the children on. actually children and so on. so actually i greater of i welcome a greater degree of flexibility. but i mean, i don't understand certain jobs can understand how certain jobs can be done unless you're together. i when used an i mean, when i used to run an independent production company, sometimes office sometimes you come in the office and somebody wouldn't say something, but detect an something, but you detect an atmosphere there, or you'd atmosphere over there, or you'd see who rather see somebody who looks rather worried, would , you worried, and then you would, you know, and chat to them know, sit down and chat to them about what the problem was or whatever. only seeing whatever. if you're only seeing them a screen, you probably them on a screen, you probably wouldn't that other wouldn't see that the other thing find for the sort of thing is, i find for the sort of jobs do is that jobs i used to do is that if you're absolute daft idea , you're an absolute daft idea, you're an absolute daft idea, you go for a drink you know, if i go for a drink with you afterwards pub with you afterwards in the pub and listen, what do you and say, listen, what do you think? why do we this? um, think? why do we try this? um, 99 stupid. time 99 times? it's stupid. one time it genius you don't it might be genius if you don't have the interaction. i think it's problem. so i think it's a real problem. so i think that blanket, you know, that a blanket, uh, you know, view about this is wrong. but on the whole, i think more people should to office for should go back to the office for the reasons stated also, and the reasons you stated also, and because will some because there will be some lingering, as there always are. but but leave a bit of flexibility. >> but also, what about learning , you know, vicariously, you

know, osmosis you it's okay know, by osmosis you it's okay if already skilled to if you're already skilled to sort of sit at home and have a latte. what about if you're young coming you young and coming through? you want to pick up skills from people you? want to pick up skills from peothat's you? want to pick up skills from peothat's exactly 1? want to pick up skills from peothat's exactly that. it's >> that's exactly that. it's very for someone mid—career very easy for someone mid—career with lots contacts. good with lots of contacts. good salary, nice home to sit at home and thing not worry and do their thing and not worry about future. a new about the future. for a new person on the job, it's person starting on the job, it's that intelligence. that emotional intelligence. it's small it's the soft skills, the small p it's the soft skills, the small p who gets p politics of an office who gets on does look on with who, what does that look like? make sure i get like? how do i make sure i get on in life? how can i make contacts that really, really matters? i think matters? and i think unfortunately, there are a lot of people in the sort of nice, comfortable positions of people in the sort of nice, comfortydecisions positions of people in the sort of nice, comfortydecisions thatysitions of people in the sort of nice, comfortydecisions that really; making decisions that really don't serve the people at the start careers. yeah start of their careers. yeah >> one >> now shapps got one final topic wrap, and it's topic before we wrap, and it's this entrepreneur has this a chinese entrepreneur has made of millions of made hundreds of millions of pounds they pounds selling elf balls. they are which are are disposable vapes which are available of fruity available in hundreds of fruity flavours, they've been very, available in hundreds of fruity flavcpopular they've been very, available in hundreds of fruity flavcpopular with"ve been very, available in hundreds of fruity flavcpopular with underage lery, very popular with underage children. so the question want children. so the question i want to is, should these to put to you is, should these kinds vapes be banned once kinds of vapes be banned once and all because they're and for all because they're clearly aimed at kids, they've got strawberries, bubblegum clearly aimed at kids, they've got strawthey're bubblegum clearly aimed at kids, they've got strawthey're not blegum clearly aimed at kids, they've got strawthey're not even|m flavours. they're not even allowed to sell them in china. and yet they are the rage

amongst children. and are they a pathway to addiction to nicotine ? >> well, the problem is they probably are. and also the figures recently which show that actually the decline in the number people been number of people who've been smoking up, smoking is going up, particularly women armed particularly among women armed with on this sunak with rishi sunak on this sunak on this. when it comes to it, we should out. and this should phase it out. and this idea, you know, nanny state intervening. if you look at the costs of us, of people costs for all of us, of people who do get into vaping, do get into smoking, then do get into smoking, and then do get lung if you at the lung cancer, if you look at the people eat too much and get people who eat too much and get diabetes and everything else, we should we should condemn them. but we should condemn them. but we should say very clearly, you are going the society an going to cost the society and an amazing society amazing amount of money, society and governments have the right to we intervene on this to say we intervene on this point. afraid i'm point. i'm afraid i'm a hardliner on this too. >> i'd ban it. yeah okay, we've got minute what's your got a minute left. what's your take on this? >> only my recovering civil >> not only my recovering civil servant, but i'm a recovering civil servant the civil servant from the department and so department of health. and so this i've been this is something i've been looking and looking at quite a lot. and honestly, about honestly, i feel i worry about overregulation adults overregulation in of adults products. we're talking products. but when we're talking about children, about targeting children, actually a real actually we have a real responsibility to actually responsibility there to actually make that what we are

make sure that what we are giving them is safe. and we don't know that vapes are safe. and we are targeting at and if we are targeting these at children, knowingly children, we are knowingly putting in putting them potentially in harms that's a harms way. and i think that's a very road to go down. yeah. >> and i think, you know, rishi sunak ban sunak seems quite, quite ban happy he also happy at the moment. he also banned cigarettes, but he's, happy at the moment. he also banrstayingrettes, but he's, happy at the moment. he also banr staying rettes,from 1e's, happy at the moment. he also banrstayingrettes,from this. he's staying away from this. i see kids around around see kids around my, around my lads. smoking lads. he's 14. they smoking these lads. he's14. they smoking these streets these things on the streets willingly. it's time to willingly. i think it's time to stop anyway ed davis, thank you very much. bowen, thank stop anyway ed davis, thank you veryfochh. bowen, thank stop anyway ed davis, thank you veryfochh. us bowen, thank stop anyway ed davis, thank you veryfochh. us in wen, thank stop anyway ed davis, thank you veryfochh. us in the, thank stop anyway ed davis, thank you veryfochh. us in the studio you forjoining us in the studio today westminster. today in westminster. now rishi sunak preparing for a crunch, sunak is preparing for a crunch, talks about the migrant crisis with of italy and with the leaders of italy and albania. and i wonder, will he pick up any useful tips because italy did a cracking deal with albania about offshore containment, whereas we haven't got a single person yet to rwanda. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel . news, britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook . with boxt >> a brighter outlook. with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb

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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 5:00. i'm martin daubney welcome to gb news live from westminster . news live from westminster. prime minister rishi sunak is travelling to italy for an immigration conference with right wing leaders, but as elon musk makes a surprise appearance, i'll ask is rishi doing a nick clegg and gearing up for a silicon valley job after he loses the next general election ? piers morgan says election? piers morgan says prince harry is on a mission to destroy the monarchy as the duke of sussex wins an historic £140,000 privacy case against the mirror group newspapers and as police in europe make seven

arrests to stop hamas attacks on jewish targets, we ask is the terror threat in the uk rising? charlie peters will bring us up to speed on that story . and to speed on that story. and remember, as ever , we want to remember, as ever, we want to hear from you. please get in touch with your opinions and all the usual ways . the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com and we'll be reading out a few of the best ones later in the show. but first, here's your news with sam francis . first, here's your news with sam francis. martin >> thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone 5:00. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom. well first to some breaking news in the last hour. the woman who died in an explosion at treforest industrial estate in south wales has been named as 40 year old danielle evans. we understand specialist officers are supporting her family. police say there are no other

reports of serious injuries, but the investigations into the cause of the explosion and the fire are continuing. we'll bring you more on that as we get it. meanwhile, prince harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability after being awarded more than £140,000 in damages over phone hacking claims against a tabloid newspaper group , the high court newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspapers between 2006 and 2011. in response , the publisher 2011. in response, the publisher says they apologise unreservedly for any historical wrongdoing. the judge also said journalists were involved in phone hacking at the time. piers morgan worked for the daily mirror, but the former editor claims he has never hacked phone or told never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone. >> as for him saying this is a good for truth, the duke has good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly in been repeatedly exposed in recent years someone who recent years as someone who wouldn't truth if it wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california face, he california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the

royal family. his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims as well. >> piers morgan's comments come in response to a statement that was made earlier by prince harry's lawyer. >> this case is not just about hacking , it is >> this case is not just about hacking, it is about a systemic practice of unlawful and appalling behaviour followed by cover ups and destruction of evidence , the shocking scale of evidence, the shocking scale of which can only be revealed through these proceedings. the court has found that mirror group's principle board directors , their legal directors, their legal department, senior executives and editors such as piers morgan clearly knew about or were involved in these illegal activities . activities. >> as a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago in france should be able to return to his family in the uk tomorrow. that's according to

french officials who've been working with police on the working with uk police on the situation . alex battye went situation. alex battye went missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe that he was abducted by his mother to live an alternative lifestyle abroad. here in the uk, police say there is no evidence of a third party involvement. but after a body was found in a river during their search for a missing mother of three, gaynor lord went missing in norwich last friday with cctv footage that was released by police showing her leaving work. norfolk police say the body hasn't been formally identified , but her formally identified, but her family have been notified. the force says it remains open minded about the circumstances of the 55 year old's disappearance , and will continue disappearance, and will continue to pursue all lines of inquiry. the home secretary says the government must and will do more after one person died in the engush after one person died in the english channel, another is still in a critical condition on a boat carrying migrants sank about five miles off the coast of dunkirk overnight at more

than 60 people were rescued. james cleverly has described the incident as a horrific reminder of the people smugglers brutality and relatives of two people that were killed at a london music venue have renewed their appeal for information . their appeal for information. one year on from the fatal crush of 23 year old security guard gabby hutchinson and 33 year old rebecca ikumelo were killed when fans without tickets tried to force their way into the brixton academy . the metropolitan police academy. the metropolitan police have released cctv images of people that they're looking to speak to about the incident, and one person has been confirmed to be arrested. the parents of rebecca say they want justice. >> we don't know what happened to her. we don't know how, how she died and we're still waiting for information on, uh, as to how this happened and, um, i mean, the most important thing is, uh , we don't want this to is, uh, we don't want this to happen to another family.

is, uh, we don't want this to happen to another family . this happen to another family. this is gb news across the uk on your tv , in your car, digital radio tv, in your car, digital radio and on your smart speaker. >> two now, though. more from . martin >> and thank you, sam. and we start with the latest on the migrant crisis. start with the latest on the migrant crisis . and i told you migrant crisis. and i told you yesterday that rishi sunak will meet italian prime minister giorgia meloni tomorrow. but in a major development, it's emerged that the leader of albania will also be present. so i'm joined now in the studio by our political editor , our political editor, christopher hope. so, chris, this would seem like a good meeting of minds. of course, giorgio meloni, um, the hard line italian premier has made it a key mission of hers to stop the boat. so much so she's done a deal with the albanian premier to build offshore containment centres , stopping the boats and centres, stopping the boats and taking them straight to albania, where they will will be processed in containment centres. sounds like a great

idea . do you think rishi sunak idea. do you think rishi sunak will come back to britain and do the same? >> well, different to ours. >> well, it's different to ours. our uk government's idea is our idea uk government's idea is a to process a deportation plan to process people arriving here legally. 5000 miles away in rwanda . it's 5000 miles away in rwanda. it's so far away rather than in albania, which is much comparatively nearer it. it's meant to break the back of this business model. people pay, desperate people pay thousands of pounds to come across the channel to come here, and then they're removed. that's the idea. we're hoping the government hopes it might start in may. the labour want to get rid of it. they think they don't like the idea of deportation. but processing, which but offshore processing, which is happened albania but offshore processing, which is italy,appened albania but offshore processing, which is italy,apjwhat albania but offshore processing, which is italy,apjwhatgermany1nia but offshore processing, which is italy,apjwhat germany are and italy, is what germany are doing. certainly i sensed doing. and certainly i sensed this week talking to labour figures that's they may figures that's where they may end rwanda proves to be end up. if rwanda proves to be a success, labour could adopt a similar because currently success, labour could adopt a similar up because currently success, labour could adopt a similar up peopleiuse currently success, labour could adopt a similar up people who currently success, labour could adopt a similar up people who arrivetly putting up people who arrive here illegally in hotels is almost invitation come almost an invitation to come here. not great. here. and that's not great. >> i spoke to a labour mp in the week and he said that labour were looking this in were looking at this idea. in fact, he namechecks turkey and greece. if he had

greece. i don't know if he had permission do that or if he permission to do that or if he was riffing a bit, but that would be eminently sensible, surely, idea, albania a surely, as an idea, albania is a safe greece a safe safe country. greece is a safe country. turkey we could do safe country. greece is a safe coun'withurkey we could do safe country. greece is a safe coun'with those we could do safe country. greece is a safe coun'with those sorts�* could do safe country. greece is a safe coun'with those sorts ofyuld do deal with those sorts of countries none the countries and have none of the red nightmares of rwanda. >> we have a good deal with albania. um sunak. >> we have a good deal with albania. um sunak . the pm says albania. um sunak. the pm says he number of crossings by he cut number of crossings by 30% because of a deal with albania . i would argue the bad albania. i would argue the bad weather contributed enough weather also contributed enough falling numbers this year, so there talks with them there is more talks with them and yeah, could work. but and yeah, it could work. but i think rwanda idea, which is think this rwanda idea, which is a kind big bazooka attempt to a kind of big bazooka attempt to break business model, is break this business model, is what the government is behind so far £240 million has gone into it with no actual apparent effect yet. and we're waiting to see. but they are intent on flights taking off for the first time in may. that link now maloney and sunak very interesting. together maloney and sunak very inte g20 ng. together maloney and sunak very inte g20 they together maloney and sunak very inte g20 they got together maloney and sunak very inte g20 they got they )gether maloney and sunak very inte g20 they got they got her maloney and sunak very inte g20 they got they got well the g20 they got they got well they're both right wing leaders in continental europe . i think in continental europe. i think uk sees maloney is a waste of influence. eu policy yeah i'll

say rwanda is less of a bazooka, more of a piece shooter at the moment. >> i digress. i want to talk about elon musk hovig interview. he was he was around at bletchley park, of course, seems to be a bit of a big tech bromance between rishi bromance going on between rishi and musk. and i'm going to be a cynic here and say nick clegg got himself a nice cushy job with big tech, big tech at facebook , rishi has been angling facebook, rishi has been angling to be a global forefront, a leader on al. elon musk happens to agree with the same. is this rishi sunak polishing his cv on the world stage so he can have a nice cushy job with musk after the general election? >> cynical martin, i know you've been. i've been around the block a well. mean, don't a bit as well. i mean, i don't think so moment. i is the think so at the moment. i is the growth, the growth industry. uk is be some form of is trying to be some form of regulator set new international rules, be place people rules, be the place where people come work what those come to work out what those guardrails are, to use the government's language on al. ai is a growth market. elon musk, the guy who founded tesla, he sends spacex, he owns twitter

planes. uh into space, can be aircraft into space. so he clearly he's that is the growth space. and he is close to maloney as well. he's met maloney as well. he's met maloney also. so he feels he's got some common cause with these two leaders. i think i know of course we know sunak has a place in california. sophia is he thinking future yet? thinking about a future yet? i mean, would say he isn't. he mean, he would say he isn't. he wants win the election next mean, he would say he isn't. he want and win the election next mean, he would say he isn't. he want and let's he election next mean, he would say he isn't. he want and let's take ection next mean, he would say he isn't. he want and let's take himyn next mean, he would say he isn't. he want and let's take him at1ext mean, he would say he isn't. he want and let's take him at face value. >> well, i admire your optimism. thank you very much, chris. always now always a pleasure. now moving on, prince harry has been awarded than £140,000 in awarded more than £140,000 in damages a phone hacking damages after a phone hacking case. the duke of sussex took the action against mirror group newspapers and hailed today's ruling as a great day for truth. as well as accountability . the as well as accountability. the judge also ruled that former editor of the daily mirror, piers morgan , both knew about piers morgan, both knew about and took part in phone hacking dunng and took part in phone hacking during his tenure at the paper. the broadcaster has, however , the broadcaster has, however, fiercely denied any claims he ever hacked a phone or indeed ordered anyone else to do so .

ordered anyone else to do so. >> the judgement finds there is just one article relating to the prince published in the daily mirror. >> during my entire nine year tenure as editor, that he thinks may have involved some unlawful information gathering . to be information gathering. to be clear, i had then and still have zero knowledge of how that particular story was gathered. all his other claims against the daily mirror under my leadership were rejected with regard to the judge's other references to me in his judgement , i also want to in his judgement, i also want to reiterate, as i've consistently said for many years now , i've said for many years now, i've never hacked a phone or told anybody else to hack a phone, and nobody has produced any actual evidence to prove that i did . did. >> well, the gloves are off once again between the sussexes and piers morgan. i'm joined now by paul conway, who's the former editor of the sunday mirror. paul editor of the sunday mirror. paul, always a pleasure to speak to you . um, a bad day for the to you. um, a bad day for the mirror group. um, they were they were found against and the ramifications for the titles are robust. this is bad news.

>> it's certainly bad news for a newspaper group that isn't doing doing too well at the moment. >> and i'm sure they'll be looking very carefully at the implications of the of the ruling . um, and i also think ruling. um, and i also think it'll be watched closely by, by, uh, lawyers for both daily mail group and rupert murdoch's group two, who are also facing actions from prince harry scheduled to take place next year. um prince harry certainly is a lot happier than than the mirror group today. and, uh , and i'm sure today. and, uh, and i'm sure that , uh, i'm today. and, uh, and i'm sure that, uh, i'm sure he may. well react to piers morgan's reaction . so there's no love lost between those two. but it's interesting, paul, how during the statement that was read out, piers morgan was name checked . piers morgan was name checked. >> of course, he denied taking part. he said, i've got zero knowledge of the story in question. do you think the sussexes any particular prince

harry, may regret name checking piers morgan because piers morgan has come out with incendiary comments , including incendiary comments, including that the harry's real mission is to destroy the royal family by branding his own family callous racists without a shred of proof. it started as a good news day for prince harry. it ended up a calamity no , i don't really up a calamity no, i don't really think so . think so. >> um, i mean, i'm not a cheerleader for prince harry. i have some sympathy with him, but i've also been a pretty robust criticism critic of him . but criticism critic of him. but but, piers is amid. criticism critic of him. but but, piers is amid . the but, piers is amid. the predictably, you know , feisty predictably, you know, feisty response from piers. it was a very carefully worded in 1 in 1 section on he said he had never hacked a phone. i totally believe that . i don't, you know, believe that. i don't, you know, i think he probably has never personally hacked a phone, but the judge said said that it was

impossible able, in his view, that editors , uh, would not know that editors, uh, would not know what what was happening, which is, of course. and he also made the same the same charge against both the former , uh, legal both the former, uh, legal director and the former ceo who now but also a thing that piers didn't mention, of course, was back in 2015 when the mirror group paid out, i think about £1.3 group paid out, i think about £13 million to a number of £1.3 million to a number of celebrities , including paul celebrities, including paul gascoigne , um, and sadie frost gascoigne, um, and sadie frost and among others , as which they and among others, as which they settled at the steps of the court , out of court without court, out of court without going to trial. they were actually their own qc at the time, got up and acknowledged that hacking had gone on and on. an industrial scale, and that editors and piers morgan was an editors and piers morgan was an editor at that at that time , editor at that at that time, knew about knew about it. so

that's back in 2015. and of course, lord leveson at the inquiry, there was somewhat, somewhat sceptical, shall we say, in his comments about piers morgan's evidence. now, i've got no personal, you know, grudge against piers at all, you know, and we've never worked together. we've worked in opposition . but we've worked in opposition. but he's a he can be a very, very good journalist. but but but there are questions there which he didn't really address . and in he didn't really address. and in that robust statement. but it was more about a personal attack on you know, on, on prince harry and his motivation rather than addressing specifically the details of, of the case. >> and paul, um, briefly , if we >> and paul, um, briefly, if we could, you mentioned at the top there that the mirror group is already in perilous times. it's not a good time for newspapers, penod. not a good time for newspapers, period . do you think this will period. do you think this will be a terrible bad day for their their reputation , their their their reputation, their their share price and indeed their

future ? future? >> well, of course, the share price will be interesting . um, price will be interesting. um, how investors react will be will be quite interesting. the mirror group have just sacked a lot of journalists. sadly because, you know, for financial, for financial reasons. but i think it'd be a tragedy if the mirror group went to the wall, and i hope and i hope it wouldn't. but of course, what's going to happen here, though, martin, is we're going have now now we're going to have now now a revival political pressure. revival of political pressure. >> um , to reopen either criminal >> um, to reopen either criminal investigations or certainly a parliamentary investigation. >> now, i'm somebody who who doesn't support prince harry in any means when he's is in any way encouraging , uh, politicians way encouraging, uh, politicians to get involved in press regulation . self—regulation is regulation. self—regulation is still the best, is still the best way. and i and i think that things have improved now, i, i predate , in fact, the hacking predate, in fact, the hacking era. but i recently was the co—author of a book called reporting royalty , which looked reporting royalty, which looked which looked at the prince harry

case and also the general relationship between the media and the monarchy . and what'll be and the monarchy. and what'll be interesting is . whether this interesting is. whether this widens or maybe partly or maybe partly or maybe partly heals the rift between prince harry's brother and his father . brother and his father. >> okay, we have to leave it there. paul connew, former editor of the sunday mirror. don't forget, leveson did for the news of the world. let's see what the harry rowling does for the mirror group. lots the mirror group. you get lots more prince harry more on prince harry on our website thanks to website and thanks to you, gbnews.com the fastest gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the breaking growing national news website in the and breaking growing national news website in the and the breaking growing national news website in the and the brilliant ng news and all the brilliant analysis come to expect analysis you've come to expect from gbillionews . now you could from gbillionews. now you could start your new year with £10,000 in cash, a £500 shopping spree and a brand new iphone sound sweet right? well, here's how you could make all of those pnzes you could make all of those prizes yours . prizes yours. >> this is your chance to win cash, treats and tech in our very first great british giveaway. there's a totally tax free £10,000 cash up for grabs cash, which would help make .

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overhaul the parole system overhaul the uk's parole system if venables toscano's these people, were saying, you people, who were saying, you know, let it go if he went and killed their kids , they'd killed one of their kids, they'd be to me, you should have be saying to me, you should have fought harder

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discuss the news that four suspected hamas members have been in europe. now the been arrested in europe. now the mother of murdered toddler james bulger has warned parents that their children will never be safe if the parole system isn't overhauled. one of james's killers, jon venables , was killers, jon venables, was denied freedom by the parole board this week after a 30 year fight to keep him behind bars. denise fergus sat down with gb news presenter eamonn holmes. denise says she has finally got her justice for her, for her son, but venables could appeal and get another parole hearing within two years. he was taking just two weeks shy of his third birthday. >> i can see him in the lads that i've got now, you know, because they all look so similar. you know, the last thing he asked for when i asked him what he wanted for his birthday, was a birthday birthday, it was a birthday cake. get cake. he didn't get that birthday cake. >> love the chance to >> but you'd love the chance to give cake. give him a birthday cake. >> god. >> oh, god. >> oh, god. >> yeah . on birthday, when >> yeah. on his birthday, when he first taken, i did place he was first taken, i did place a his resting place

a btec cake on his resting place for, you know, it . it should . for, you know, it. it should. have been in front of his face on the 12th of february, 1993, robert thompson and john venables kidnapped , tortured and venables kidnapped, tortured and killed two year old james bulger in liverpool . in liverpool. >> it was one of the most shocking crimes in modern british history. the toddler's murderers were both just ten years old. a lot of people will know what has happened to james, but they don't really know . they but they don't really know. they don't really know the detail. they don't really know what was in venables and thompson's head and what motivated them and what made way they were. made them the way they were. what what do you think this tells us about society, about what's available online, about grooming ? what's the lesson to grooming? what's the lesson to be learned? there's a lot now that you know, kids can learn through, you know, social media and stuff like that. >> but there was nothing like that back then. there was no mobile phones or not. and so, you , just taking that you know, just taking that out of the, you know, the question,

it's just evilness on their behalf. >> how sick are they? were they i can't call them sick because the sick people out there who need doctors and nurses, they don't. >> they just they don't deserve anyone's time. you know what they did? they took a baby's life and destroys his family's lives in the process of it. >> and they didn't just take his life. they tortured him. yeah, that's the most horrendous way that's the most horrendous way that they could have taken child. >> you see, that's the bit that i find really difficult. >> there could have been an accident. they could have pushed him over there could have been something that wrong and he something that went wrong and he hit head. but they didn't. hit his head. but they didn't. they they dwelt this for they they dwelt on this for a long time. they they dwelt on this for a lon the ne. to they they dwelt on this for a lon thene. to do that, what >> the plans to do that, what they done, the child to abduct a kid two weeks before . so, you kid two weeks before. so, you know, if they took that kid to two weeks before james's are still being here, no doubt. but you know, they carefully planned that it was premeditated . so that it was premeditated. so they knew that they were going out that day to take a child's

life. >> john venables was released on licence in 2001, but recalled to prison nine years later after indecent images of children were found on his computer. he was again released in 2013, only to be put behind bars again for the same offence . this time the same offence. this time the parole board were taking no chances. parole board were taking no chances . denise, when you got chances. denise, when you got the phone call yesterday to say that venables was not being released, how did that feel? >> i was kind of numb . i think i >> i was kind of numb. i think i still am steve's the shock because after 30 years i finally feel like i'm getting listened to now and everything that i've said in the past, you know, it's rung true because i did say if the two of them weren't properly punished for the crime that they committed, the only spent i'd just over seven years in a young offenders , he never went to an offenders, he never went to an aduu offenders, he never went to an adult prison and i did say, if you don't spend any time in a

properjail you don't spend any time in a proper jail , either one or both proper jail, either one or both of them will go on to reoffend and commit more crimes. and i was proven right with venables , was proven right with venables, where do we go from here? >> denise venables is detained again, but it could only be maybe for two years. you might have to go through all of this again . again. >> i've come 30 years fighting justice for james. and you >> i've come 30 years fighting justice forjames. and you know, justice for james. and you know, i'll do for as long as i need i'll do it for as long as i need to do or as long i can do to do it. or as long as i can do it. um until i get the proper justice. i feel like i've got some kind of justice for him now, because he's been denied parole . and, you know, i am parole. and, you know, i am getting the patterns of, you know, some mps now, dominic raab and, uh, alex chalk, you know , and, uh, alex chalk, you know, what they've been saying to me? they've stood by their words and you know , the they've helped me you know, the they've helped me get some kind of justice, which i've never had before. >> the government is pushing through an overhaul of the parole system with new laws allowing ministers block the allowing ministers to block the release the most dangerous criminals. >> it just feels like now i'm

just getting support from , you just getting support from, you know, the mps because this is the first time i've got to actually got to meet, meet them and, you know, they've stuck to what they've told me . yeah. what they've told me. yeah. >> what would you say , denise, >> what would you say, denise, to people ? this is not me saying to people? this is not me saying this, but i know there will be people watching and listening to us and say , for goodness sake , us and say, for goodness sake, venables and thompson were ten years old at the time . they were years old at the time. they were they were babies themselves . why they were babies themselves. why can you keep going on punishing them? >> one of them needs punishing because he's behind bars again. if venables gets out, let's make him an example. if he gets out, these people who were saying, well , you these people who were saying, well, you were only ten, you know, you know, it's been 30 years now. let it go. why should i want? he was my son. he's not here to for himself. here to speak for himself. so i'm to if i'm doing a forum. and to if venables does get out, these people are saying, you know, let it go. if he went and killed one of their kids, they'd be saying to you should have fought to me, you should have fought harder. mean, you've harder. i mean, i know you've become a you know, you've got

another now. another grandchild now. congratulations, way. another grandchild now. congrayou. ions, way. another grandchild now. congrayou. io see way. another grandchild now. congrayou. io see picturesay. another grandchild now. congrayou. io see pictures of you thank you. i see pictures of you with your grandchildren . i can't with your grandchildren. i can't do that . do that. >> where are you at? denise, if i was to ask you now , here we i was to ask you now, here we are in 2023. we're heading into christmas . what state are you in? >> i'm not in any state. i'm in a good place. i've got you know, my husbands, my three boys. i've got my family, my granddaughter. you know, i've. i'm in a happy place. the only time i'm not is when something like this occurs. and i've got to take on another fight. but it's my choice, and i'll carry doing do you fight. but it's my choice, and i'll

me, i will carry on campaigning to get justice not just for me, but for anyone who needs it out there. >> and for people who will say a prayer for you this christmas. what would you say to them ? what would you say to them? >> i'd say say a prayer for james. >> say a prayer for venables and thompson. no >> why not? they don't need prayers. >> do people who say they need understanding, they need forgiveness . it's the, the. forgiveness. it's the, the. >> basically they get forgiveness . but one chose. he forgiveness. but one chose. he didn't want that forgiveness and carries on doing what he wants to do. he's not just a child, mears. he's also a paedophile . mears. he's also a paedophile. so they don't deserve any good. they've been given too many chances, especially venables . chances, especially venables. you know, he's been given chance after chance . new after chance. new rehabilitation, new names , this, rehabilitation, new names, this, that and the other loads of money spent on them. you know, he didn't deserve that, but he got it. and look, batus ended up back in prison. is there anything, anything at all

venables could do that would lift him in terms of your estimation ? estimation? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> stay in prison . >> stay in prison. >> stay in prison. >> well, moving interview . >> well, moving interview. superb. now there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. and i'll discuss the extraordinary story of the missing british teenager who was abducted by his mother and grandfather in 2017. he'll be reunited with his family tomorrow . an astonishing story. tomorrow. an astonishing story. but first, there's your latest news headlines with sam francis . news headlines with sam francis. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone half past five. the headlines this houn past five. the headlines this hour. tributes have been paid to

a woman who died in an explosion in south wales. 40 year old danielle evans has been described as a whirlwind of a woman by her family who said she would be deeply missed. police say there are no other reports of serious injuries, there of serious injuries, but there are investigations into the cause incident at cause of the incident at treforest industrial are treforest industrial estate are continuing . prince harry says continuing. prince harry says it's a great day for truth and accountability after being awarded more than £140,000 in damages over phone hacking claims against a tabloid newspaper group , the high court newspaper group, the high court ruled there was extensive phone hacking by the mirror group newspaper . owners between 2006 newspaper. owners between 2006 and 2011. in response, the publisher says they do apologise unreservedly for any historical wrongdoing. the judge also said journalists were involved in phone hacking at the time. piers morgan worked for the daily mirror. the former editor claims he has never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack phone. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth , the duke has good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent someone who

recent years as someone who wouldn't know the if it wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him his slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself. the smearing the royal family, his own family as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims . disgraceful claims. >> a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago in france should be able to return to his family in the uk tomorrow. that's according to french officials who've been working with uk police the situation . with uk police on the situation. alex battye, who's now 17, went missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives believe he was abducted by his mother to live an alternative lifestyle abroad . an alternative lifestyle abroad. here in the uk. police say there is no evidence of third party involvement after a body was found in a river during their search for a missing mother of three. gaynor lord went missing in norwich last friday. cctv footage was released showing her leaving work. norfolk police say

the body hasn't been formally identified, but her family have been informed. the force says it remains open minded about the circumstances. of the 5455 year old's disappearance , and will old's disappearance, and will continue to pursue all lines of inquiry . well, you can get more inquiry. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . for a valuable legacy your family can own . family can own. >> gold coins will always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . and here's a quick report. and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you $1.2715 . and ,1.1651. the price $1.2715. and ,1.1651. the price of gold is £1,600.02 per ounce, and the ftse 100 has closed the day at 7576 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report .

report. >> thank you sam. now onto a truly astonishing story. and that's the missing teenager, the british teenager who was abducted by his mother and grandfather in 2017, will be reunited with his family tomorrow. alex bhatti , who's now tomorrow. alex bhatti, who's now 17, was only 11 years old when he disappeared. french prosecutors say that for the past six years he'd been living a life with no connection to the real world. alex was found after he'd been walking for four days, having decided to escape when his mum told him they were moving from the pyrenees mountains to finland. well joining us now is former detective super intendent shabnam chowdhury . thanks for shabnam chowdhury. thanks for joining us on the show. so a truly astonishing story and one that just fills every parent filled with hope. but in terms of the policing of this , this is of the policing of this, this is totally unique .

totally unique. >> absolutely. and what good news that, you know, he's a child. he's 17 years of age has been found safe and well, um, but it will be a unique investigation for the police here in the uk. by investigation for the police here in the uk . by now, they here in the uk. by now, they would already have appointed a team of investigators . within team of investigators. within that, they'll include specialist investigators. there'll be specialist officers who will have skills and training around debriefing and interviewing alex to ensure that he is safe and well, that there's no criminal allegations that come out of this or that there have been no criminal acts whilst he's been with family for the last six years. remember um, he was pretty much abducted by his parents. he's been to three countries morocco , to spain and countries morocco, to spain and to france . um, and it's believed to france. um, and it's believed he's been in communes and listened to the, uh, french prosecutors earlier on with some of the comments that they made. but, uh , alex needs to be fully but, uh, alex needs to be fully debriefed and also to make sure

that he is, um, mentally in a good place as well. well shannon, the story of the french delivery driver who picked him up when he was wandering around the mountains , and then he even the mountains, and then he even he even helped deliver pharmacy articles. >> and apparently he wasn't hungry. he wasn't thirsty. he seemed quite well. he had money. it's simply . staggering story, it's simply. staggering story, and one that sort of really puts faith back in humanity. >> yeah, absolutely. and it's really good that he was found in the way that he was found. i mean, he'd been wandering for four days. he'd seen signs for toulouse and was hoping that he'd uh, some from he'd find, uh, some help from there . uh, as i say, the there. uh, but as i say, the investigators for here, because it's a british investigation, investigators for here, because itunderstand investigation, investigators for here, because itunderstand it,estigation, investigators for here, because itunderstand it, they ation, investigators for here, because itunderstand it, they willy, investigators for here, because itunderstand it, they will go i understand it, they will go and they will debrief the witnesses. will go back and witnesses. they will go back and they'll detailed and they'll do a very detailed and thorough investigation session, um, ensure that there aren't um, to ensure that there aren't any criminal allegations . the any criminal allegations. the fact is that there are prosecutors from france have made some very interesting

comments today. they need to be looked into. this isn't going to be something where alex is spoken to over the next couple of days, and the police will be very with everything very happy with everything that's this is six that's gone on. this is six years of his life that have not been for . uh, years of his life that have not been for. uh, he's been accounted for. uh, he's been accounted for. uh, he's been the grid, so to speak, been off the grid, so to speak, because he's probably not had a the kind of education that he should have had, and certainly one that he should had here one that he should have had here in so they'll be looking in the uk. so they'll be looking very carefully into this and they'll, they'll make decisions as they'll proceed as to how they'll proceed forward. >> and arade dam, as well as the dramatic and emotional reunion that we all see, and as well as the well—being of the child. that's obviously paramount . will that's obviously paramount. will british police, do you think , be british police, do you think, be pushing a prosecution of the pushing for a prosecution of the mother to apprehend her mother trying to apprehend her and charge her with any crimes ? and charge her with any crimes? >> well, they will work very carefully, closely with the french authorities because you've got to remember, there may be some areas of child neglect here and that needs to be looked into in more detail. and they'll have

and that's why they'll have specially trained officers , specially trained officers, officers have vast officers who, um, have vast experience in safeguarding in child care cases and child abuse, child neglect , all of abuse, child neglect, all of those areas that they will investigate and quite possibly there may be some, uh, prosecution coming forward. but again, because he's in different authorities, he's in morocco, he's in spain, he's in, uh, france. so they've got a debrief all those particular areas they've got to locate, actually where he was in the first instance to actually establish what time of type of an environment he was actually living in. did they have food? did they have good clothing? were around them were the people around them very good? any good? he'd got to consider any potential people that were potential other people that were involved in, uh, the care of alex and whether they were also looking after him in the way that they should have done and whether there are any witnesses out there that would say otherwise what parents otherwise to what the parents might . might say. >> okay. former detective superintendent shaun cherry, thank very much for joining thank you very much for joining us and talking on the case of alex bhatti. trudy, feels alex bhatti. trudy, just feels like some sort miracle before

like some sort of miracle before christmas, was a warning christmas, there was a warning today that the uk faces a period of heightened risk of terrorism . of heightened risk of terrorism. um, i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

p.m. only on gbillionews, the people's channel, britain's news channel. >> now to a warning that the uk is facing a period of heightened risk after a hamas plot to murder jews risk after a hamas plot to murderjews in europe was murder jews in europe was disrupted, there by intelligence agencies . three people were

agencies. three people were arrested in denmark , three in arrested in denmark, three in germany and another in the netherlands. german officials revealed that four of the seven suspect are indeed members of hamas. well, i'm joined now by our reporter charlie peters. so, charlie, a successful series of stings on the continent. but the question we must ask is, is the risk of a terror attack by hamas operatives against jewish targets in the uk an increase possibility? >> well, that's what security sources and experts were warning gbillionews. this morning that we are at a heightened risk after these revelations from europe. this is a significant update in hamas tactics and procedures , as this would be procedures, as this would be briefed as vital intelligence in the european security agencies and almost certainly in britain, as well. vital intelligence typically considered to be a new threat to life or a change in tactics by a terrorist organisation . and this is organisation. and this is exactly what that is, because

usually hamas operates in israel and the west bank and in gaza. but now we're seeing the terrorist organisation reportedly operating in central europe. last night, the german prosecutor saying that they were attempting to move a set of weapons to berlin to target jewish institutions , really jewish institutions, really setting forward a plan for the terrorist organisation. there foiled last night by german intelligence. three arrested there, another arrested in rotterdam by dutch authorities on advice from the germans and also we've heard about three arrests in denmark last night as well. less information available about the danish threat understood at this stage to not be linked to hamas because the danish intelligence agency not releasing more information there . we also understand that the israeli intelligence agencies mossad and shin bet were involved in this operation, and they said today that they are expanding their work in europe and elsewhere to tackle a

growing and new hamas threat on the continent. but could the same thing be happening in britain? well last month we did hear from security sources at gb news that a terror attack linked to the gaza crisis was only a matter of time. and our home affairs and security correspondent , affairs and security correspondent, mark affairs and security correspondent , mark white affairs and security correspondent, mark white met with members of the police who were on vigilance patrols throughout the country to reassure the population. at this time , as the threat is time, as the threat is considered to be significant. but as we understand, no clear threat at this point on the uk from hamas . but as we said, this from hamas. but as we said, this changing of tactics and procedures in europe is a significant a major upgrade on hamas capabilities . hamas capabilities. >> okay, charlie peters, thank you for that update. and i'm joined now in our studio by our political editor, christopher hope. chris on the political front, is pose a huge front, this is pose a huge headache for how we police such

matters in the uk, particularly suella braverman was calling the pro—palestine marchers hate marchers. do you think that helps that kind of febrile political environment or is a calmer approach a better way of doing it? >> i think it didn't help. i think suella braverman calling it hate march. i mean, there were of hate were some elements of hate around marches. saw around those marches. we saw those social media those obviously on social media and gb news, but i think and on gb news, but i think generally it was mostly people trying to raise awareness of the issue in palestine. i think when politicians get involved, they can worse . mean, can make it worse. i mean, just just week, the just this week, though, the government pressure government is putting pressure on hamas , mahmoud the on hamas, mahmoud zahar, the hamas co—founder, has been sanctioned by the uk government this week. they are trying to put democratic, some put some democratic, some diplomatic pressure on hamas and making sure the terror group does feel pressure of does feel the pressure of international real concern about their behaviour. international real concern about their behaviour . with an awful their behaviour. with an awful massacre in october. >> that's the guy who got cut. price council house in brent, isn't it. and a lot of people think people like him should be deported. the mood music

deported. well, the mood music has changed on hamas as it did after the al—qaeda attacks when it the west had to it looked like the west had to take a firmer action. >> they had in the past. and it's to be to be be praised. it just feels to me just anecdotally, that london has calmed down. ahead of calmed down. i think ahead of the sunday the remembrance sunday commemorations, it felt really tense around whitehall, less so now. but but that is there's no reason to say that doesn't mean something bad might happen. so it's real risky time. >> but we speak often. we saw a report yesterday of an 80% of british jews afraid . they british jews are afraid. they think things have drastically changed october changed since october the 7th. how in tune or politicians about that. >> i think with the jewish community it is understood it definitely understood. there's more money. millions of pounds put into into it by rishi sunak to protect jewish places of faith and worship . and it's faith and worship. and it's vital because they are feeling very, very vulnerable. they're looking at social media, wandering away. people don't be that sympathetic to the jews. it's not not fair. and they're concerned about it. okay, chris,

so thanks for your input. >> now, a chinese entrepreneur has made hundreds of millions of pounds selling disposable vapes and they're available in hundreds of flavours and have proved very popular with underage children. jordan now is john dicey, who's the ceo of the senior therapist of alan carr's easy way worldwide. thank you for joining me on the show, forjoining me on the show, john. these elf bar , um, vapes, john. these elf bar, um, vapes, they come in bubblegum flavour, candy floss flavour , watermelon candy floss flavour, watermelon flavour. the guy who markets them has made billions of pounds globally. and yet the products he sells are banned in his nafive he sells are banned in his native china. should we do the same here and ban them in britain? it's interesting. >> it's one of those, um , >> it's one of those, um, industries that has been proven to be, um, untrustworthy , to be, um, untrustworthy, dishonest. so going back a few years, you had jewel, um, in the us , was fined a half $1 billion us, was fined a half $1 billion for, um , illegally targeting

for, um, illegally targeting kids with their products. >> um , under the guise of >> um, under the guise of helping smokers quit smoking and, um, elf bars , uh, and, um, elf bars, uh, similarly, have been proven to, uh, put illegal levels of nicotine in devices that are sold in the uk. um often to kids i >> -- >> um, so i w >> um, so i think consideration has to be given to this. >> i think the harm reduction, uh , objectives of vaping are uh, objectives of vaping are well known. >> um , the idea being that, uh, >> um, the idea being that, uh, it's less harmful for smokers . it's less harmful for smokers. um, but we need to really focus our attention on protecting children , uh, from getting drawn children, uh, from getting drawn into the, um, the vaping trap, um, which is been inevitable, really , over the last ten years really, over the last ten years at alan carr, we've been warning about it , um, at alan carr, we've been warning about it, um, because the we used to be worried about big tobacco. now we have big nicotine , um, these massive nicotine, um, these massive vaping companies , elf bar, for

vaping companies, elf bar, for example. i think the make up something like 75% of the disposable vape industry in the uk. so incredible influence , um, uk. so incredible influence, um, so serious regulation needs to be applied . be applied. >> and john, of course, when vapes first came out, they were lauded as a pathway out of smoking and therefore a good thing. but now we're seeing something quite different. and thatis something quite different. and that is vapes being marketed at young people . and clearly, you young people. and clearly, you know, the kind of flavours they like, the colours they like, they're cheap, they're disposable , all a pathway into disposable, all a pathway into addiction and therefore surely the legislation around this needs to be updated . needs to be updated. >> yeah, we've been calling for this for over ten years. >> it's entirely predictable. >> it's entirely predictable. >> when you look at the big tobacco playbook over the years , tobacco playbook over the years, um, we saw this coming from a long way off. >> um, so there's a little bit like, sort of, um, uh , locking like, sort of, um, uh, locking the stable door after the horse was bolted. >> um, but certainly something

needs to be done about it . needs to be done about it. >> um, and the long overdue rishi sunak, of course, has wage war on actual cigarettes. >> he wants there to be a generation smoke free moving forward. but is it possible to stop the sale of these vapes now? i mean, you can buy them at car boot sales. you can buy them anywhere. you can buy them at most corner shops . and they're most corner shops. and they're very lucrative for the retailers because of course, they have a one shot one use and they get chucked away, which itself chucked away, which in itself poses issue . so my poses a recycling issue. so my question might sound good question is it might sound good to stamp our feet and say these should be banned, but actually is it just too late? is that not possible? it's difficult. isn't it? prohibition generally is proven not to work. >> i think we can focus on education. >> i think once these kids , kids >> i think once these kids, kids are just realising very quickly after they start vaping that they're addicted. >> so we have inundated with inquiries about, um, how to help them get free. we've actually launching a new video program

specifically for youngsters. um, in the new year. um, and we endless number of, um , adults endless number of, um, adults hooked on vaping attending our live seminars across the uk. so really it's two things educating youngsters to avoid , uh, the youngsters to avoid, uh, the nicotine trap , um, legislation nicotine trap, um, legislation and to assist that i think , but and to assist that i think, but also providing, um , access to also providing, um, access to help . um currently, for example, help. um currently, for example, look on the nhs website for help to quit vaping. there isn't any um, in fact, all you get on the nhs website is how to how to switch to vaping from cigarettes. >> okay. thank you very much, john dyson. we're going going to have to leave it there. thanks for joining us on the now forjoining us on the show. now standing in for michelle standing in tonight for michelle dewberry. turner. bev, dewberry. it's bev turner. bev, what's menu? good what's on your menu? good evening marty. >> can just say you're >> look, can i just say you're looking very dapper in our lovely studios there in westminster. >> i'm very jealous that you've got before me. got to see them before me. >> got a packed show >> we've got a packed show coming going be coming up. we're going to be talking about prince harry with

his i was hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould i was hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould have i was hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould have had i was hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould have had a was hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould have had a few hacked, talking about prince harry with hcould have had a few hundred i could have had a few hundred thousand but i thousand pounds today, but i chose to take it to court. chose not to take it to court. and i will tell you why. chose not to take it to court. and i will tell you why . and and i will tell you why. and we're also talking about anti—semitism. how bad it in anti—semitism. how bad is it in the now? do bring the uk now? how do we bring people . rather than people together. rather than seeing them fighting on the streets? american airlines is an american airline now american airline that is now giving to giving free airline seats to passengers obese. so if passengers who are obese. so if you're you don't get one you're fat, you don't get one seat, you get two. and how does what does that mean how we what does that mean for how we feel being larger bodied feel about being larger bodied today? are today? and weight watchers are now plan now offering a diet plan for those on weight those people who are on weight loss so who is whose loss injections. so who is whose responsibility is it? if there is too of to is little too much of you to love? and rishi sunak love? and also rishi sunak talking about the that talking about the fact that there inquiry in the there might be an inquiry in the new year into whether the under 16 allowed social 16 should be allowed social media stuff all, or media at great stuff all, or should ban it ? should we ban it? >> okay, but we have to leave it there. thank you very much. i've been daubney stay tuned been martin daubney stay tuned for bev turner for dewbs& co with bev turner a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news.

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. we'll stay cloudy and rather mild for many of us through the rest of the day, but overnight it does turn windier across the north as well as wetter that's because we've wetter too. that's because we've got string of weather got this string of weather fronts out in atlantic. fronts out in the atlantic. they'll continue stream in they'll continue to stream in wet across northern wet weather across northern areas of the uk, particularly across for the far north of scotland . elsewhere, though, it scotland. elsewhere, though, it will stay dry through the rest scotland. elsewhere, though, it wi the ay dry through the rest scotland. elsewhere, though, it wi the evening.rough the rest scotland. elsewhere, though, it wi the evening. we'll the rest scotland. elsewhere, though, it wi the evening. we'll see rest scotland. elsewhere, though, it wi the evening. we'll see some of the evening. we'll see some clear spells in the south and east, so will feel a little east, so it will feel a little bit here, elsewhere bit cooler here, but elsewhere we've strong breeze and a we've got a strong breeze and a southerly and very mild southerly breeze and very mild air the of year, so it air for the time of year, so it will an exceptionally mild will be an exceptionally mild night tonight temperatures night tonight with temperatures not dipping much below 10 or 11 degrees for parts of scotland. however, quite wet however, it will stay quite wet and across parts of and windy across parts of scotland throughout saturday and into the afternoon. the rain will quite heavy and will become quite heavy and persistent. further south, though it will stay dry once again through much of the day. but be quite lot of

but there will be quite a lot of cloud around. however it's still staying through staying very mild through saturday and through much of the weekend as well, with highs of around 12 to 13 degrees across the uk , which is quite high for the uk, which is quite high for this time of year. however, the persistent rain across scotland will continue through saturday night won't relent all the night and won't relent all the way through sunday as well. so we amber rain warning we do have an amber rain warning in for parts of the in force for parts of the highlands and into as highlands and into argyll, as well as a yellow warning as well more widely that rain will sink southwards into monday and tuesday to more southern areas of the uk, allowing cooler air to in the north. that to arrive in the north. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

to him by the mirror newspaper group , listening in to his group, listening in to his voicemails at two, a modest extent, 15 to 20 years ago, i too was a victim of this, but i chose not to seek damages. and i'll explain why this is all about harry's ego rather than his privacy. plus there are currently 5 or 6 times the amount of anti—semitic attacks that we normally see in the uk .