i >> -- >> well . good evening >> well. good evening and welcome to patrick christys . welcome to patrick christys. >> tonight it's harry's outrage at media intrusion into the private lives of the royal family is only matched by his own ruthless, greedy and hypocritical enthusiasm for doing it himself. >> well, prince harry, one in court today. but does it excuse the disgraceful way he's trashed our royal family? he might have won today , but i think he's lost won today, but i think he's lost everything else. police thwart a massive across massive terror attack across europe, has a trojan horse of radical islam been allowed to enter britain? and are our politicians to blame ? in other politicians to blame? in other news, this guy sparked outrage .

news, this guy sparked outrage. so that man , supposedly so that man, supposedly a millionaire property landlord , millionaire property landlord, has copped it after allegedly using a chainsaw to evict tenants. he joins me to clear things up and reveal the truth behind his stunt and his motherhood, a punishment labour mp stella creasy was moaning a bit about how having a baby stops her going to christmas parties. but does she have a point on my panel tonight? i have got the dream team of esteemed broadcaster emma woolf, the iconic john sergeant and the ever outspoken tonia buxton. this is patrick christys tonight. let's do this. let's get in touch with me now. do you forgive harry for trashing the royal family? gb views or gbnews.com? i'll see you after the headlines with sam

francis . francis. >> patrick. thank you. good evening . i'm sam francis in the evening. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom. the headlines at nine. prince harry is calling for a fresh police investigation. and a parliamentary inquiry into phone hacking . that's after his hacking. that's after his successful battle with mirror group newspapers. the duke of sussex was awarded more than £140,000 in damages after the high court ruled that editors and executives knew about extensive phone hacking between 2006 and 2011. the judge also said journalists were involved in the phone hacking . at the in the phone hacking. at the time. piers morgan worked for the daily mirror, but the former editor he hacked a editor claims he never hacked a phone told anyone else to phone or told anyone else to hack phone . hack a phone. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been exposed in been repeatedly exposed in recent as someone who recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands for the demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family. his own family, as a bunch of callous racists

without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims well elsewhere. >> three israeli hostages have been killed after troops misidentified them as a threat and opened fire during their offensive in gaza . in offensive in gaza. in a statement, the israeli military said it had deep remorse for the tragic event and says the incident is under investigation . incident is under investigation. meanwhile, israel says it will allow up to 200 trucks of aid per day into gaza through kerem, kerem shalom rather crossing a move that's been praised by the foreign secretary , david cameron foreign secretary, david cameron . here in the uk, 1 million homes could face significant council tax rises as more local authorities face serious gaps in their funding. bradford cheshire and middlesbrough council have all announced they were at risk of effective bankruptcy. it comes as a group of six labour mayors called for more emergency funding. they say the government's plan to give them £64 billion next year won't cover rising costs or demand . cover rising costs or demand. but rishi sunak says he's put record funding into local areas

like middlesbrough over the past year. yeah >> on average, councils are having about 10% more money to spend this year than they had the year before . actually, the year before. actually, middlesbrough council has even more than that, more than the national average. and unfortunately, just unfortunately, this is just another of a labour run another example of a labour run council doing bad job council that's doing a bad job for its residents. it's mismanaging its finances and actually, know , that's an actually, you know, that's an example what you get example of what you get when labour in charge and the grandmother of a british schoolboy who went missing six years ago has said she cannot express how relieved she is that he's been found safe and well, the 17 year old is expected to fly uk the fly back to the uk over the weekend . weekend. >> he went missing in 2017 after going on a family holiday to spain. detectives there believe that he was abducted by his mother live an alternative mother to live an alternative lifestyle . that's the latest lifestyle. that's the latest from the gb newsroom . for more, from the gb newsroom. for more, you can find us on your tv onune you can find us on your tv online radio and on your smart speakeh online radio and on your smart speaker. this is gbillionews .

speaker. this is gbillionews. >> loads coming your way about those prince harry developments. get in touch on that early doors. i'll go to those in a debate which we've got very, very shortly. vaiews@gbnews.com. but wanted vaiews@gbnews.com. but i wanted to start with this. a trojan horse of islamist terrorism has been allowed to enter europe. our political leaders rolled the red carpet out and opened the gates, promising us that our lives be the richer for lives would be the richer for it. yesterday it emerged it. well, yesterday it emerged that people, including that seven people, including four members, four suspected hamas members, were arrested across denmark, germany netherlands on germany and the netherlands on suspicion of planning attacks on jewish institutions in europe . jewish institutions in europe. four men are suspected of being tasked with finding a previously set up underground. hamas weapons cache, and police claim to have found cool packs containing ammonium nitrate gel, which can be used to make explosives. in france, teachers went . on strike due to threats went. on strike due to threats from muslim parents because they reportedly weren't happy with their kids seeing a renaissance painting nudity, painting that contained nudity, and , a 12 year in and yesterday, a 12 year old in france again was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after allegedly trying to kill a

teacher with kitchen knife . teacher with a kitchen knife. that child reportedly comes from a mongolian family that moved to france now the exact france in 2012. now the exact motive of that isn't motive of that attack isn't clear yet , but motive of that attack isn't clear yet, but comes clear yet, but it comes after a radicalised islamist stabbed his former teacher dominique bernard, to death in the northern town of arras, a french court last week convicted six teenagers for their role in the 2020 killing and beheading of teacher samuel paty outside a secondary school near paris . as secondary school near paris. as well. today in britain, it's emerged that our terror threat is being closely monitored by m15 is being closely monitored by mi5 and security services. they have raised its have not raised it to its highest yet. highest level yet. the metropolia police is investigating after two menorahs were attacked in london. more anti—semitic behaviour on the streets there . i want to talk streets there. i want to talk about rolling out the red carpet and letting the enemy in. we just have to look at what happened with a chap called mohammad suella. headed mohammad qasim suella. he headed up the hamas terror groups west bank operation , and it turned bank operation, and it turned out that we gave him a council house in barnet, which is the

uk's highest jewish population. back in 2003. he then used the right to buy scheme to purchase their home for £320,700. in june 2021, barnet council reportedly granted the couple £112,000 discount on its market value. look, the problem is bad enough without importing it, isn't it really ? again today, a muslim really? again today, a muslim convert, edward little, has been jailed for at least 16 years now. he intended to kill a christian preacher with a gun. i want to thank our security and intelligence services and those right across europe for keeping us as safe as they do under incredibly difficult circumstance . those brave men circumstance. those brave men and women get politicians out of trouble so many times . the fact trouble so many times. the fact is, if you ask me , our political is, if you ask me, our political class at home and around the eu unfurled a welcome mat to a lot of radical jihadis, people who care about their country and who care about their country and who care about their country and who care about keeping their children safe are often demonised, but people who subscribe to a violent

misogynist , anti—lgbtq, medieval misogynist, anti—lgbtq, medieval pseudo religious death cult of an ideology they're often welcomed in and now we are reaping what our politicians have sown. if only somebody could have seen this coming a wait, i think we all did, didn't we? let's get the thoughts of my panel on this now. author and columnist and presenter tanya buxton. we've got former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant and author and journalist emma wolf as well. look, tanya, i'll start with you on this. do you think that we have allowed a trojan horse into europe? yes we absolutely have. >> and we saw it coming. i mean, the problem is, is that you cannot accept into a country people with ideologies that are so alien to yours and without any kind of demands that they accept the type of living that we do in this country. so in this country, women are equal to men in your hand to be gay. we

you know, we don't demonise any of these people. i mean, things that are written in the quran, which people are taking as word are, you know, women have half the a man they the brain of a man and they don't kill gay people don't they they kill gay people in islamic countries. >> so if under a radical interpretation or a radical interpretation or a radical interpretation of it, but they still there isn't an islamic country where, you know, gay people can be free. >> and so my point is , is their >> and so my point is, is their ideologies completely alien ideologies are completely alien from ours. if they're going to come this country, then come into this country, then they should swear some allegiance or the allegiance to our flag or the ideologies that we have . and ideologies that we have. and it's so alien. and i've had many, many terrible experiences myself, and as have my daughters , as there was a situation in a few years ago where my daughter left college and she was walking past a mosque that's in north finchley , and she at about 12:00 finchley, and she at about 12:00 in the afternoon, where they were just coming out after prayer and she was verbally abused. prayer and she was verbally abused . so she came home. she abused. so she came home. she was very, very upset. i went to the police. and do you know what the police. and do you know what the police. and do you know what the police tell not

the police said? tell her not to walk way on a friday walk that way on a friday afternoon. yeah >> it's not, not, it's not >> it's not, it's not, it's not good is it? look, john, good enough, is it? look, john, i see you know, i could see you, you know, taking there. a bit taking notes there. was i a bit too there, do you think? too harsh there, do you think? was was i too extreme? >> no. i think the point if >> no. i think the point is if you bring all these together and you bring all these together and you and you say there's this case and there's case, there's this case and that case, you we must stop you think, my god, we must stop this, what should we do? well, the to the answer, of course, is not to then these cases over then take these cases over a wide europe, millions wide area of europe, millions and people. to and millions of people. but to consider what the general reaction should now, the idea reaction should be now, the idea that i know what we should do, let's, let's torture them. let's, um, let's torture them. let's let's beat them up, shall we? if we see them and they're islamist terrorists, potentially , you know, let's demonise them . , you know, let's demonise them. you're saying don't demonise, but you are demonise them. you're saying there are these various groups and it's a trojan horse, and we must stop this. well, what is this ? well, there well, what is this? well, there are millions of people living here peacefully. there are millions all across millions of people all across europe living peacefully. the we've got to consider what should the public reaction be? not what you feel when you come

across these incidents. we all feel annoyed. we all feel you should go to prison for a long time. we shouldn't tolerate that. that's easy. that. of course, that's easy. that's the easy bit. but in terms of the general, what should do now? we must make should we do now? we must make sure that we are understanding. we're tolerant . we make sure. we're tolerant. we make sure. no, no, no no no. but you have to couple all these things together. you can't just say, oh, well, let's have one of these or i know what these things or i know what we'll should we we'll do. should we be intolerant and should we be? i don't know let's be sort of don't know what let's be sort of violently anti—immigrant. that'll good idea. that'll be a good idea. >> obviously not what >> but that's obviously not what i'm it? mean, i'm saying, is it? i mean, i'm literally responding to the police right across europe , police right across europe, unearthing what was essentially , unearthing what was essentially, quite literally, a trojan horse plot. i mean, a buried weapon saying you're saying the saying that you're saying the red carpet has been rolled out for these guys? i would argue. i would argue that it has. i would for these guys? i would argue. i wouldthat|e that it has. i would for these guys? i would argue. i wouldthat it that it has. i would for these guys? i would argue. i wouldthat it well,t has. i would for these guys? i would argue. i wouldthat it well,t have would argue that it well, i have argued has. think it's argued that it has. i think it's been far too easy for them to get emma, come you. get in. emma, i'll come to you. what of all of this? what do you make of all of this? >> well, i find myself the >> well, i find myself in the odd of feeling that odd position of feeling that you're a little bit

you're being a little bit extreme for once, patrick. and actually agreeing with john sergeant, which is probably a first. no, look, mean, these first. no, look, i mean, these cultural inevitable cultural clashes are inevitable when global movement, when we have global movement, global in this way. global migration in this way. and i think the social media has massively fuelled this whole radicalisation when you radicalisation project. when you have people isolated and alone and being indoctrinated with these , dreadful these dreadful, dreadful ideologies. they are ideologies. but they are unpleasant . but emma, isolated unpleasant. but emma, isolated incidents. yes, it's on the rise. >> they're not there. >> they're not there. >> they're not there. >> the division and the rancour across our societies are on the rise. >> i mean, john, john is taking it that we're not demonising. but if you speak to someone like maggie oliver, who was the police officer who lost her job maggie oliver, who was the polbeing icer who lost her job maggie oliver, who was the polbeing aar who lost her job maggie oliver, who was the polbeing a whistleblower' job maggie oliver, who was the polbeing a whistleblower for) for being a whistleblower for what going on up north, um , what was going on up north, um, you know, it's still going you know, and it's still going on there's, you know, on up north. there's, you know, there's grooming gangs, there's these grooming gangs, there's these grooming gangs, there's stuff going there's all this stuff going on. and reason it didn't come and the reason it didn't come out early was out publicly early earlier was not because were demonising not because we were demonising it. was because weren't it. it was because we weren't speaking thousands speaking up. and thousands of girls got raped because we did not up . we just need to be not speak up. we just need to be true honest and we have to. true and honest and we have to. i don't think we should demonise

anyone, someone's doing anyone, but if someone's doing something, if you're raping young you're young girls or if you're plotting to you know, i'm plotting to kill, you know, i'm of descent. saffie rose, of cypriot descent. saffie rose, who the youngest girl that who was the youngest girl that died manchester bombings, who was the youngest girl that died cypriot|nchester bombings, who was the youngest girl that died cypriot descent' bombings, who was the youngest girl that died cypriot descent .bombings, who was the youngest girl that died cypriot descent. i)mbings, who was the youngest girl that died cypriot descent. i know.|s, was of cypriot descent. i know. what do you want to say? oh, well, don't demonise them. >> no, and i hear what you say, tanya. a lot. >> do what they like. >> do what they like. >> we have accepted. >> i do think we have accepted. >> i do think we have accepted. >> on. >> hold on. no. >> hold on. no. >> on. no. the >> hold on. no. >> on. no. >> hold on. no. when the law is broken, course. the law broken, of course. throw the law book one's book at them. no one's suggesting on them suggesting go easy on them when they when being they can, when they're being convicted when they're in dangeh >> this is my argument. isn't it? because you can it? too late? because you can see you? see this coming, can't you? >> sure don't get >> and make sure you don't get what you're right >> and make sure you don't get what the you're right >> and make sure you don't get what the grooming're right >> and make sure you don't get what the grooming thing ht about the grooming thing that should have been taken more seriously now. seriously going on now. no, i know, know, but point know, i know, but the point about this is don't give up or say, oh, because these things have happened. we can't do anything it. make sure the anything about it. make sure the police make sure police are supported, make sure the ethnic minority leaders are supported who are calling for calm. make sure you do all these various things, but don't think there's one simple solution. >> but tonya makes a good point. apropos of the grooming gangs, i

think we need to be braver and less terrified of saying i've been called racist. this is this is that is is a cultural thing that is going on here. >> look when i look at >> when i look when i look at the case of that guy who was, you hamas . uh, yeah. you know, a hamas. uh, yeah. living in barnet, leader and we give him a council house and give him a council house and give him a hundred grand off his house, goodness sake. give him a hundred grand off his h0lwe goodness sake. give him a hundred grand off his h0lwe g(him ass sake. give him a hundred grand off his h0lwe g(him as sake. give him a hundred grand off his h0lwe g(him a council house >> we gave him a council house rolling the red carpet out. >> john. don't know what. no >> john. i don't know what. no >> john. i don't know what. no >> why was citizenship? >> why was he given citizenship? he granted he was granted british citizenship in this country. >> detail . what was the >> case in detail. what was the case that he forward to the case that he put forward to the local was he on the local authority? was he on the list? don't know, no. he had list? i don't know, no. he had the idea that we rolled out a red carpet. >> but let just explain, >> but let me just explain, because i this case, he had because i know this case, he had clear even clear links with hamas even after in the country after he arrived in the country around 20 the 2010s. he was still going back. he had a meeting with a high level putin guy as a hamas. you know, he was still acting . it's not as though still acting. it's not as though he came to this and left he came to this country and left it yeah, and it all behind him. yeah, and we did allow and we got did we did allow him and we got the well, i think was a the hope. well, i think it was a massive failure , massive not massive failure, massive not be in massive failure of in this massive failure of

intelligence . intelligence. >> so what should we do? >> so what should we do? >> should we give him a passport torture him. >> should we know? should we take port take him to a ferry port now? should him back to folks should we take him back to folks and him? and say, go off, deport him? >> how you going to do that, >> how are you going to do that, though? you have have a case. though? you have to have a case. you have. got you have to have. you've got to make you've the law. make sure you've broken the law. you're you're you're charged and then you're expelled. you're charged and then you're expwell, hamas proscribed >> well, hamas is a proscribed organisation, i know. >> right. >> all right. >> all right. >> there's case. >> there's your case. >> there's your case. >> so. right, so you then >> so. all right, so you then put prison. don't put them in prison. but don't think to for think we don't want to pay for them prison don't think we don't want to pay for them him prison don't think we don't want to pay for them him there prison don't think we don't want to pay for them him there areison don't think we don't want to pay for them him there are nor don't think we don't want to pay for them him there are no laws.t want him there are no laws. there no system. no there are no system. we have no systems at all. we just simply these things happen . and then these things happen. and then we shout scream at shout at them and scream at them. no. you carry through . them. no. you carry through. >> are politicians. >> these are our politicians. and well, really , and i think as well, really, when i our politicians, i am when i say our politicians, i am referring of course to eu as referring of course to the eu as well, because we were that well, because we were in that until recently , the until relatively recently, the policies that had when policies that they've had when it mass immigration, it comes to mass immigration, low level checks on on identities and backgrounds and the ability for free movement and things like that, and some of the ideologies they've they've put there about how we need tolerant all they've put there about how we nethis. tolerant all they've put there about how we nethis. do tolerant all they've put there about how we nethis. do you:olerant all they've put there about how we nethis. do you think1t all they've put there about how we nethis. do you think that all they've put there about how we nethis. do you think that that of this. do you think that that is or has endangered the public?

>> it's endangered the public. it's changed the scenery of our culture across europe as well. if you if you go to sweden, they've got a lot to say. same with germany , same with denmark. with germany, same with denmark. you know, the, the essence of a culture is lost because i'm an immigrant's child. we came in, we integrate and we cherish the you know, britain gave me my life and i'm so proud to be british. that's not what you're getting now. you're getting people that are arriving saying, no, no, i'm going change no, no, i'm not going to change for change for me. you for you. you change for me. you have ideology and that have my ideology and that ideology things that we ideology takes in things that we do not see as illegal in our country. put us in danger. country. it's put us in danger. it's changed the dynamics of how we want to live our lives . in we want to live our lives. in sweden now, young girls who ten years ago would be walking freely out in the streets late at are doing it at night, are not doing it anymore. had police anymore. we've had police reports denmark and germany reports from denmark and germany the same thing . it's wrong the same thing. it's wrong and i have a friend in her 70s who lives in the isle of sheppey who

will not go out into the town centre because feels , and centre because she feels, and this view, feels this is not my view, she feels overwhelmed immigrants i >> -- >> she feels not safe and old people not go into people like her do not go into the town centre. >> is that fair? it's an >> is that fair? but it's an important but is an important important but it is an important distinction. a very distinction. it is a very important well important distinction as well to make, is certainly the make, which is certainly the context that talking about. context that i'm talking about. it terror threat. it now of, of a terror threat. right and there are there are differences, massive differences between, you know, the ordinary immigrant population. absolutely. not immigrant population. abshave ly. not immigrant population. abshave allowed not immigrant population. abshave allowed a, not immigrant population. abshave allowed a, a not immigrant population. abshave allowed a, a cartel�*not we have allowed a, a cartel within that there are radical extremists and are a threat to wander in which is kind of the point that we're getting at. we're also a lively start. so thank you very much. a cracking range views still range of views there still to come, blair range of views there still to com

does today's verdict. in the high court mean that the duke of sussex deserves a bit more sympathy from from the british pubuc sympathy from from the british public , expert royal public legend, expert royal expert ray and football expert charlie ray and football agent and phone hacking victim as well sky andrew. they're going to battle it out in a head to head for you though . for you. to head for you though. for you. can harry ever be forgiven for the way that he's gone after the

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news channel. >> welcome back now labour mp stella creasy laments a motherhood penalty. so we'll get on to that. but right now it's time for a head to head . so time for a head to head. so prince harry has finally had a decent day , hasn't he? his decent day, hasn't he? his relentless legal warfare with the british press this time went in his favour. so mirror group newspapers has been ordered to fork out around 140 grand in damages to the duke , after a damages to the duke, after a high court judge ruled that 15 out of 33 articles being investigated were found to contain information obtained through phone hacking or other unlawful means. mrjustice fancourt ruled that there can be no doubt that many senior figures at the mirror , including figures at the mirror, including former editor piers morgan , knew former editor piers morgan, knew what was going on. now mr morgan emerged today, didn't he , to emerged today, didn't he, to vehemently deny the allegations he took the opportunity as well to respond with some very choice words about harry kyrees outrage at media intrusion into the private lives of the royal family is only matched by his

own ruthless , greedy and own ruthless, greedy and hypocritical enthusiasm for doing it himself. >> this is a guy who's repeatedly trashed his family in pubuc repeatedly trashed his family in public for hundreds of millions of dollars, even as two of its most senior and respected members were dying. his grandparents, the duke , has been grandparents, the duke, has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face. mission , along face. his real mission, along with his wife, is to destroy the british monarchy right ? british monarchy right? >> well, whatever your view of them, harry and meghan have taken a lot of stick over the last few years. quite a lot of it from me, to be fair. but harry has trashed the royal family. the queen family. he's like the queen down, her final down, hasn't he? in her final moments, to his moments, disrespect to his father coronation day. father on his coronation day. can be forgiven for all of can he be forgiven for all of that? based on what we've found out today? well, with me now is that? based on what we've found out legendaryll, with me now is that? based on what we've found out legendaryll, witexpert|ow is that? based on what we've found out legendaryll, witexpert and s the legendary royal expert and former royal correspondent at the sun . it's charlie ray. the sun. it's charlie ray. charlie, thank you very much. does today's ruling in any way excuse harry's behaviour in

recent years? do you think ? recent years? do you think? >> in my view, no. this is two separate issues. we have the court case in which he is clearly been wronged by the mirror group. in this case. and we have harry and his continual moaning about the royal family, the accusations of racists in the accusations of racists in the royal family and the various accusations that we've seen in the in the netflix programs and in his book. and there'll be more to come. yeah >> all right. i mean, obviously, the idea that having your phone hacked and feeling that that can make you feel paranoid, self—conscious , aukus, i suppose self—conscious, aukus, i suppose it can damage relationships , it can damage relationships, ships, etc. do you think that's in any way contributed to his behaviour recently ? behaviour recently? >> i can't hear you . >> i can't hear you. >> sorry. oh, have we lost charlie any chance? no. all right, tell you what. it's actually all right. because we can into the gb news can go straight into the gb news inbox now. patrick it be inbox now. patrick it will be good see harry give the money good to see harry give the money that he's been to

that he's just been awarded to charity. you think? says charity. don't you think? says elizabeth. mean , elizabeth. yeah, i mean, absolutely. surely it be absolutely. surely it would be good. the recent good. we've just seen the recent accounts archewell accounts published for archewell . they tried to claim that they've got millions reserve. they've got millions in reserve. well, necessarily they've got millions in reserve. well, they|ecessarily they've got millions in reserve. well, they have;arily they've got millions in reserve. well, they have loads of appear that they have loads of people. getting people. of course. now getting in about whether or not people. of course. now getting in can bout whether or not people. of course. now getting in can be it whether or not people. of course. now getting in can be forgivenzr or not people. of course. now getting in can be forgiven forr not people. of course. now getting in can be forgiven for hist harry can be forgiven for his recent antics. we've had the oprah interview, haven't we? we've obviously had the netflix series, we've had his book, 'spare' or where, as it was lovingly referred to as well, whether or not all of those things, him going along with the idea racist in idea of there being racist in the royal family, not necessarily me being there as much have been in much as he should have been in the the queen much as he should have been in the for the queen much as he should have been in the for prince the queen much as he should have been in the for prince philip, the queen much as he should have been in the for prince philip, whethereen and for prince philip, whether he forgiven that? um, and for prince philip, whether he absolutelyiven that? um, and for prince philip, whether he absolutely not. that? um, and for prince philip, whether he absolutely not. howial? um, and for prince philip, whether he absolutely not. how can um, and for prince philip, whether he absolutely not. how can you no. absolutely not. how can you forgive him? says basil. charlie ray is back. charlie, have you got me? i think he possibly does. yes yes i have, yes. good lad . okay. do you think that the lad. okay. do you think that the phone hacking in any way contributed towards harry's sense paranoia , and maybe the sense of paranoia, and maybe the way that he now views the family and views others? suppose . and views others? i suppose. >> oh, yeah. undoubtedly i mean,

it's been proven today by the result in that court case that harry's phone was hacked. >> i think the judge said his, um , modest extent, it doesn't um, modest extent, it doesn't matter whether it was modest, whether it was one phone hack or whether it was one phone hack or whether hundreds of phone whether it was hundreds of phone hacking. phone hacks. um, hacking. phone. phone hacks. um, he was his phone was hacked, and quite rightly so . he has been quite rightly so. he has been awarded . a money 140,000. it's awarded. a money 140,000. it's a drop in the ocean . the money's drop in the ocean. the money's not the point. the point is that he has been proved in his justification for going after certain newspapers . certain newspapers. >> how how can he claim now to stand in court and to be doing a service for people who value their privacy while simultaneously vomiting a load of his most personal information and deeply personal information about other people as well ? that about other people as well? that poor lady who took his virginity in the field behind a pub. i mean, he didn't care much about her privacy. he spent the last few years just dishing it out. and now here we go . so it's a

and now here we go. so it's a victory for truth and all of this stuff. how can he marry those two things up ? those two things up? >> well, this is where he becomes a hypocritical, uh, you know, he's done all these sort of things, like you mentioned the oprah interview. spare the various television programs, and he's trashed various people along the way. and yet he goes to a court which is entitled to do and say my privacy was invaded and, uh, my phone was hacked . uh, and now the mirror hacked. uh, and now the mirror is going to have to pay the cost i >> -- >> now, lam >> now, look, charlie, you were obviously , you know, in the obviously, you know, in the thick of it around the fleet street area for quite a while . i street area for quite a while. i mean, what was the reality like in terms of i'm not accusing you of anything, obviously, but what was the reality when it was the reality like when it comes to phone hacking and things that? things like that? >> mean , let just >> well, i mean, let me just say, patrick, that today's judgement against the mirror is a very , very bad day for the a very, very bad day for the profession and the for the industry that i have loved for 50 years. um it's dreadful. and

we have to remember as well, there's a small number of people involved in phone hacking . the involved in phone hacking. the vast majority of journalists at national newspaper level are all decent, hard working people. now, my own phone and i sat 100 yards away from the news of the world in my office. my own phone was hacked 595 times during that time. that was the first time i ever heard of phone hacking, was when the police contacted me to tell me that my phone been tell me that my phone had been hacked news of the world. hacked by the news of the world. um, so i knew nothing about this. all i can tell you is that when i was doing my job, i was. i had sources. there's no question about that. i had people who were telling me things about members the things about members of the royal checked out royal family. i checked them out and we decent stories . i and we had decent stories. i never used a private investigator . i've never used a investigator. i've never used a detective, and i've never hacked a phone. and that is the vast majority of people. you can imagine shock when we were imagine our shock when we were told reporter told it was one rogue reporter at of the world who was at the news of the world who was doing and then find out doing it, and then we find out it was all being done on an

industrial we've seen it was all being done on an induindustrial we've seen it was all being done on an indu industrial it we've seen it was all being done on an induindustrial it is. we've seen it was all being done on an induindustrial it is. newse seen it was all being done on an induindustrial it is. news group how industrial it is. news group has paid out £1.2 has already paid out £1.2 billion to victims of phone hacking. then . the mirror group hacking. then. the mirror group is going to find out. you know how costly this is going to be to them. well well quite obviously those numbers obviously i mean those numbers were to me there. were were news to me there. >> but i mean, if that's the case, it is it is startling obviously. uh mirror group are not here to defend themselves at the moment, but i suppose they were in court, weren't they? uh, charlie, much. charlie, thank you very much. charlie. esteemed charlie, thank you very much. charl reporter. esteemed charlie, thank you very much. charl reporter. good esteemed charlie, thank you very much. charl reporter. good es now,3d royal reporter. good stuff. now, look, former prime look, should former prime minister blair deprived minister tony blair be deprived of his knighthood? labour peer peter mandelson claims that blair agreed to ban foxhunting after a £1 million donation to the labour party from an animal rights group. well this is fascinating, isn't it? we've seen just stop oil for a period of time, get involved with the labour party under keir starmer. although were outside his although they were outside his house today protesting. so that's it. but that's gone south hasn't it. but you know tony blair off of the iraq load of iraq war, off of a load of different issues that faces a

society the moment, should he society at the moment, should he be stripped knighthood ? be stripped of his knighthood? this comes the alba party's this comes as the alba party's neale has declared that this comes as the alba party's ne actually has declared that this comes as the alba party's ne actually really. declared that this comes as the alba party's ne actually really should ad that this comes as the alba party's ne actually really should lose at he actually really should lose the honour after declassified documents from 1998. do show that sir tony was determined to take military action in iraq , take military action in iraq, apparently contrary to legal . apparently contrary to legal. advice. i'll also be speaking to a landlord who seemingly used a chainsaw to break down a door to a tenant who would not leave his property. i'll be hearing his side of the story on one of the week's most controversial clips very, very shortly. coming up next, though, more sparks will fly as tonight's fatales fly as tonight's femme fatales emma woolf and tonia buxton. they horns over these they lock horns over these controversial comments made by labour mp stella creasy, describing as a describing motherhood as a penalty. won't want to miss penalty. you won't want to miss that one. back

monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. >> very shortly we've got the man who's gone viral chainsawing through a tenant's door , but in through a tenant's door, but in just a moment that will be coming. way. though, coming. your way. first, though, it's round of it's time for another round of the old head head , getting the old head to head, getting our money's worth out that sting tonight, aren't we? labour mp stella creasy took to twitter to lament missing christmas parties because she has to pick her kids up from school or nursery. she said was the motherhood said it was the motherhood penalty, what she penalty, so here's what she said. she said as i walk past everyone going to christmas parties drinks my to parties and drinks on my way to get from nursery , she get the kids from nursery, she yet acutely aware that the yet again acutely aware that the motherhood penalty is just a

gift that keeps giving, not just flexible working . we need by flexible working. we need by flexible working. we need by flexible working. we need by flexible working too. all right now, motherhood penalty refers to the price that mothers pay for having children whilst working , i suppose, such as working, i suppose, such as missing out on promotions or earning a lower salary than their counterparts , missing out their counterparts, missing out on social things like that . but on social things like that. but some of brandis taylor's comments insensitive, considering the mps £81,000 a year salary, many have hit back at mrs. creasy for being insulting to mothers, but also people who really wish they were mothers as well . so is she right mothers as well. so is she right or is she bang out of order on this one? joining us to discuss. now, have these now, we might have seen these two before. author and journalist and journalist, emma woolf and columnist tanya columnist and presenter tanya buxton. uh, tanya , i'll start buxton. uh, tanya, i'll start with you. do you have any truck for this idea that there is a motherhood penalty? >> no. >> no. >> and honestly , stella annoys >> and honestly, stella annoys me so much . i >> and honestly, stella annoys me so much. i want to >> and honestly, stella annoys me so much . i want to strangle me so much. i want to strangle her because on top of everything else, she is also what we would call a talent. so she can get to take her kid to work. you know, she's not even talking about a

lot of women that don't aren't able to their children to able to take their children to work. every privilege work. she's had every privilege of motherhood you could bring. work. she's had every privilege of mo got hood you could bring. work. she's had every privilege of mo got herj you could bring. work. she's had every privilege of mo got her child could bring. work. she's had every privilege of mo got her child andd bring. work. she's had every privilege of mo got her child and d brigets she's got her child and she gets to do what she likes with them. and moaning to do what she likes with them. and that moaning to do what she likes with them. and that poor moaning to do what she likes with them. and that poor child.roaning to do what she likes with them. and that poor child. so ning to do what she likes with them. and that poor child. so ing to do what she likes with them. and that poor child. so i find about that poor child. so i find her wrong in every single way. and no , it's an honour to be a and no, it's an honour to be a mother. you're lucky to be a mother. you're lucky to be a mother. i know lots of women that are haven't had children, and a regret of and it's a deep regret of theirs. and so stop whining theirs. and so just stop whining . stop whining. >> i mean, stella creasy brought the baby into the house of commons. i think there's a clip of that. we'll get to that in a second. and she brought it into it. oh, there go. got it. oh, there we go. we got to it. oh, there we go. we got to it away. it literally straight away. fantastic. about that fantastic. so round about that as was moaning as well. she was moaning a bit about and what do you about that. yes. and what do you think. i mean there is presumably some truth to the idea that once you have a baby, especially a newborn baby, i mean, life, mean, it impacts your life, doesn't it? >> yeah. look, motherhood, there are you're not going to are things you're not going to be you're not going be able to do. you're not going to to go to the to be able to go to the christmas parties for a couple of going be of years. you are going to be you have your hands of years. you are going to be you do have your hands of years. you are going to be you do she ve your hands of years. you are going to be you do she ve yarr hands of years. you are going to be you do she ve ya pointds full. i do think she has a point

that isn't designed that our society isn't designed around you think around motherhood. if you think about the fact that we're actually like bringing up the next i'm not next generation and i'm not asking know, of asking for, you know, sort of congratulate anyone congratulate from anyone what women they have women are doing when they have kids like carrying kids is actually like carrying on the population. you know, we are bringing the are bringing up the next generation society makes motherhood really, really hard. like even just you'll never you'll never have done this yet. but pushing a bloody pram around the streets? no, but it makes you think about people in wheelchairs. it's very hard when you've done a day struggling on and off buses and up and down stairs all of that for all stairs and all of that for all the people can be helpful . the people that can be helpful. it's a grind. it is a grind. especially in the early years. it just never occurred to me, let me think about it as grind. >> i mean, it's the honour of being a mother. >> yeah. is an honour. >> yeah. and it is an honour. it's absolutely beautiful it's an absolutely beautiful experience. it's privilege. experience. it's a privilege. every i know every almost every woman i know thinks most thinks her children are the most wonderful reward ever. it's never would wonderful reward ever. it's neve god, would wonderful reward ever. it's neve god, it's would wonderful reward ever. it's neve god, it's hard, would wonderful reward ever. it's nevegod, it's hard, but would wonderful reward ever. it's nevegod, it's hard, but i'mjld say. god, it's hard, but i'm a single mother. and this whole thing can't go to thing about. oh, she can't go to the do you know the christmas party. do you know what for what i haven't been out for a coffee with a friend for three

what i haven't been out for a coff> didn't occur me want. >> didn't occur to me to want. >> didn't occur to me to want. >> mean, can't imagine >> i mean, i can't imagine wanting and i my, you wanting to go and i my, you know, the first time round, i was really mother. i was was a really young mother. i was the only of friends who'd the only one of my friends who'd had so literally had a child. so i literally was missing parties missing out on all the parties and missed out everything. it and missed out on everything. it didn't it didn't even cross didn't even it didn't even cross my it just didn't cross my my mind. it just didn't cross my mind. because this is the this is what i'm doing now. and i just think that if you decide to be a mother, is the most be a mother, it is the most important and important job of the world. and it's must it's all consuming. but you must all embrace it, not be sitting it's all consuming. but you must all ergoing, it, not be sitting it's all consuming. but you must all ergoing, it, rpoorz sitting it's all consuming. but you must all ergoing, it, rpoor me, ing there going, oh, poor me, i can't get to go to the party. i just have or tolerance just have no time or tolerance for that. >> e p“ >> okay, i'm going to stick with tony second, because >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink second, because >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink we second, because >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink we just nd, because >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink we just need because >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink we just need sort use >> okay, i'm going to stick with tthink we just need sort out i think we just need to sort out something on your microphone very, all very, very quickly. that's all right. think, though, right. um, do you think, though, that, society as

that, you know, maybe society as a grateful a whole should be more grateful towards or this part towards mothers? or is this part of victim culture? do you of a victim culture? do you think that we're the think that we're seeing at the moment? mean, kyrees moment? i mean, stella kyrees on about she about 80 odd grand a year. she has got partner, as far as has got a partner, as far as we're . you know, has we're aware. you know, she has got, services got, you know, services available her. the women available to her. the women i feel sorry for patrick are the women that, know, would women that, you know, would rather not be working. >> you know, stella is a career woman . okay, so she's an mp. woman. okay, so she's an mp. that's a career woman. so, you know, it's very different to the woman has to go to the woman that has to go to the supermarket or go to the retailer and kind of work. that's not career orientated, but because the absolutely needs a second wage in that family , a second wage in that family, there's a big difference between these two types of women and that has to be yeah. that has to be noted. yeah. >> emma, do you think that that potentially it was slightly offensive to women who who really want to have children and for whatever reason, it hasn't happened yet? i wondered if that was my immediate thought . was my immediate thought. >> you know, nearly >> i almost, you know, nearly didn't . didn't have children. >> i agree with that, don't you? >> i agree with that, don't you? >> absolutely think >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs|bsolutely think >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs to olutely think >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs to be tely think >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs to be aware think >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs to be aware that hink >> i agree with that, don't you?

>> needs to be aware that it1k >> i agree with that, don't you? >> needs to be aware that it is she needs to be aware that it is such privilege and that is she needs to be aware that it is su a privilege and that is she needs to be aware that it is su a really,ilege and that is she needs to be aware that it is su a really,ilege aprivileged is in a really, really privileged position. she really is. but i also worth reflecting also think it's worth reflecting on how on how hard we make motherhood. nothing is designed to help women. have to say in to help women. i have to say in terms of it is all consuming , terms of it is all consuming, and it is something that none of us ever regret. no, us would ever regret. no, although women that although i know some women that sort regretting although i know some women that sorbut regretting although i know some women that sorbut no regretting although i know some women that sorbut no , regretting although i know some women that sorbut no , i'm regretting although i know some women that sorbut no , i'm justegretting although i know some women that sorbut no , i'm just soztting although i know some women that sorbut no , i'm just so mindful it, but no, i'm just so mindful of i know, i know, i know women who can't conceive and can't have babies, and it's. >> but you have to acknowledge that a difference that there is a big difference between like us, to a between women like us, to a certain extent, who are career mothers, women who are mothers, to women who are fundamentally and absolutely mothers, to women who are fundaeven ally and absolutely mothers, to women who are fundaeven want nd absolutely mothers, to women who are fundaeven want to absolutely mothers, to women who are fundaeven want to work, utely mothers, to women who are fundaeven want to work, buty don't even want to work, but have to work because they need that second wage. there's a big difference between these two. and that's what's really got and so that's what's really got to be taken into account. and she's one. she she's she's the other one. she is woman she's is the career woman. she's chosen a whilst chosen to have a career whilst having and it's not having children. and it's not purely on the financial that she literally needs that second wage to contribute to the family. >> yeah. i mean, bringing up >> yeah. i mean, i'm bringing up a family. so you are bringing have a first or a second wage. it's it's your wage child.

>> yeah, i know, but do you understand what saying? when >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas,;tand what saying? when >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas, when nhat saying? when >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas, when niwas saying? when >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas, when niwas filmingig? when >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas, when niwas filming my,iihen >> yeah, i know, but do you uwas, when niwas filming my, my] i was, when i was filming my, my tv show, i was going around the greek islands i did take tv show, i was going around the greeitook nds i did take tv show, i was going around the greeitook my i did take tv show, i was going around the greeitook my numberd take tv show, i was going around the greeitook my number three (e tv show, i was going around the greeitook my number three with my i took my number three with me. son with me me. i took my son with me everywhere i was everywhere because i was the talent and was allowed talent and i was allowed to, let me guy or me tell you, the sound guy or the guy, they person the camera guy, they person they were allowed to their were not allowed to bring their children with children along. so my point with stella allowed stella is that she is allowed to do a with child, and do a lot with her child, and she's moaning that. she's still moaning about that. you see the final word . you can't see the final word. >> final word. well, my final point is actually that when i passed these christmas parties, i feel a huge sense of relief that excuse that i have a brilliant excuse not to bloody go to them. >> agree, i agree, tell you >> i agree, i agree, i tell you what, it's don't want it and what, it's i don't want it and i feel so glad tomorrow feel so glad that tomorrow morning to feel morning i'm not going to feel the people do. the way these people do. >> you know what? have it >> you know what? i have it every night when i finish every night now. when i finish at 11:00 and i walk back falling every night now. when i finish at 1 of0 and i walk back falling every night now. when i finish at 1 of pubs, i walk back falling every night now. when i finish at 1 of pubs, walking ack falling every night now. when i finish at 1 of pubs, walking through ng out of pubs, walking through the somme really somme. yeah, it's really is mounds of sick everywhere people. just feel so people. and you just feel so good that you're like, i saw him the other night on a bench just near the station around the corner here, completely conquered, completely out. and it cold. and i said to him, it was cold. and i said to him, i was like, are you all right? i

got a grunt out of him. i thought, respect, thought, look, with respect, i could lose two hours of life could lose two hours of my life here with or i could here with this guy or i could let know, hopefully let him, you know, hopefully make mistakes feel make his mistakes because i feel like christmas have make his mistakes because i feel likewilder|ristmas have make his mistakes because i feel likewilder and nas have make his mistakes because i feel likewilder and nas i have make his mistakes because i feel likewilder and nas i tell'e got wilder and drunker. i tell you i you you what, though, i do, you know, used get bang know, i used to get bang involved, not days involved, but not these days anyway. thank you very much. good coming up as good stuff. that coming up as prince achieved good stuff. that coming up as princevindication, achieved good stuff. that coming up as princevindication, he chieved good stuff. that coming up as princevindication, he seemingly good stuff. that coming up as prince endingtion, he seemingly good stuff. that coming up as prince endingtion, he with1ingly good stuff. that coming up as prince endingtion, he with the ly never ending battles with the british more british press. do we have more sympathy the public? in sympathy from the public? in just moment, we've got just a moment, though, we've got the viral. the man who's gone viral. chainsaw through tenant's chainsaw through a tenant's d00h chainsaw through a tenant's door. have a look at a door. let's have a look at a lesson it's the kick at the end for me that really does it. but um, yeah, he's going to come on and, you know, clear up some of the rumours and things around that clip. furious clip. but next, a furious mp hits at calls for tony blair hits out at calls for tony blair to be stripped of his knighthood after declassify documents

raised serious questions about his decision to invade iraq in 2003. the divisive former 2003. should the divisive former prime minister now now be

next. now labour peer peter mandelson, who obviously in no way looks like the kind of man who sleeps upside down in a cocoon , has upside down in a cocoon, has claimed week that tony claimed this week that tony blair agreed to ban fox hunting after a £1 million donation to labour from an animal rights group. mandelson said that group. lord mandelson said that the put blair under the organisation put blair under pressure to ban the countryside activity. this comes as a new report has suggested, declassify documents from 1998 show that sir tony was determined to take military action in iraq , military action in iraq, contrary to legal advice . the contrary to legal advice. the alba party mp neale hanvey has now called for blair to be stripped of his knighthood. so what do we think? joining me to discuss this very, very shortly is the editor at large for the mail on sunday. charlotte

griffiths will go to her in just a second. but yeah, it has been something that a lot of people get very hot under the collar about, isn't it? when you think about, isn't it? when you think about the that blair, about the idea that tony blair, about the idea that tony blair, a many people think is a man who many people think is responsible door a man who many people think is resthe sible door a man who many people think is resthe mass door a man who many people think is resthe mass migration door a man who many people think is resthe mass migration issue door a man who many people think is resthe mass migration issue that to the mass migration issue that we have today, education, education, an education which as as i can tell, saddle the as far as i can tell, saddle the heck of a of people with a heck of a lot of people with a lifetime debt to go do lifetime of debt to go and do mickey did mickey mouse degrees. we did have the iraq war, didn't we? which cannot be glossed over. where were those weapons of mass destruction? going destruction? what was going on there? what did you really there? tony? what did you really know likely it was we know about how likely it was we would those weapons would find those weapons of mass destruction and now much destruction and now to a much lesser extent , an alleged £1 lesser extent, an alleged £1 million donation to the labour party to help ban hunting. party to help ban fox hunting. charlotte griffiths joins me now, editor at large the now, the editor at large for the mail on charlotte, mail on sunday. charlotte, should tony his should we strip tony of his knighthood ? knighthood? >> i think we probably should, shouldn't we? i mean, it's a bit of a mystery why he got one in the place, because, the first place, because, well, the first place, because, well, the gave him and by the queen gave it to him and by all the queen didn't all accounts, the queen didn't even very and even like him very much. and now we own spin we find out from his own spin doctor that took £1 million

doctor that he took £1 million to ban fox hunting, which was a debate that that has caused huge controversy for years and years and years. and then, of course, there's more there's the much more controversial thing with iraq. so you know, why is he being knighted when he cannot tell the truth and his own spin doctors reveal he tell the truth? reveal he can't tell the truth? >> i mean, obviously , a >> yeah. i mean, obviously, a lot of people think that tony blair a amount good blair did a huge amount of good for country. some other for this country. some other people opposite , people think the exact opposite, don't there is also don't they? and there is also the deal that was done with the ira . i mean, the deal that was done with the ira. i mean, you can the deal that was done with the ira . i mean, you can really ira. i mean, you can really rattle off heck of a of rattle off a heck of a lot of stuff about tony, can't stuff here about tony, can't you? mean, realistically, you? i mean, realistically, though , what the of though, what are the chances of this being stripped of a this guy being stripped of a knighthood? it only knighthood? i mean, it only happens society worst happens to like, society worst rhiannon doesn't it? happens to like, society worst rhi i1non doesn't it? happens to like, society worst rhi i think doesn't it? happens to like, society worst rhi i think the doesn't it? happens to like, society worst rhi i think the actual1't it? happens to like, society worst rhi i think the actual likelihood >> i think the actual likelihood of it happening is pretty slim. but, uh, you know, there are polls that say that only 14% of this country think he should have got in the first place. have got one in the first place. he will have to. i mean, as more and more comes out about the iraq war and more and more documents declassified , i documents get declassified, i wonder there might be a

wonder whether there might be a moment the whole nation moment where the whole nation sort really call him sort of really does call for him to stripped, but it's kind of to be stripped, but it's kind of relevant he's relevant now because he's getting involved in keir starmer's so so we starmer's campaign. so so we need know, he's starting need to you know, he's starting to involved again. so he's to get involved again. so he's raising above raising his head above the parapet might expect to parapet and he might expect to get of slack for that. get a bit of slack for that. >> um, indeed. i don't think >> um, no, indeed. i don't think there would be a huge of there would be a huge amount of pubuc there would be a huge amount of public backlash if sir tony was stripped of it personally. and you think that now potentially that he is re—entering the political foreground , that that political foreground, that that could be the moment to do it? >> i think so, i think, you know, he really is sort of meddling. it's what he loves to do best tony blair, isn't it? he can't help but meddle in things and he's getting involved. so you know, he's he's going to be under microscope again and under the microscope again and he can for the rest of his life. he knows perfectly for the he can for the rest of his life. he iofiws perfectly for the he can for the rest of his life. he iof hisperfectly for the he can for the rest of his life. he iof his life.ectly for the he can for the rest of his life. he iof his life. iraq for the he can for the rest of his life. he iof his life. iraq will for the he can for the rest of his life. he iof his life. iraq will be the he can for the rest of his life. he iof his life. iraq will be a1e rest of his life. iraq will be a thorn his side and be thorn in his side and will be looking closely. remarkable. >> remarkable . i'll talk >> it is remarkable. i'll talk about like truth and about things like truth and decency that. i mean, decency and we see that. i mean, i been inquiries i know there's been inquiries into know, it's into this and, you know, it's been and been largely exonerated and everything, know, it is

everything, but, you know, it is an issue nonetheless. look, charlotte, very much. charlotte, thank you very much. short but short and sweet tonight, but great to have you on nonetheless. griffiths great to have you on nonetithe ss. griffiths great to have you on nonetithe ss. at griffiths great to have you on nonetithe ss. at large iffiths great to have you on nonetithe ss. at large of ths there, the editor at large of there, the editor at large of the now a video the mail on sunday now a video that apparently shows a landlord using a chainsaw to break down the door of a tenant who refused to leave one of his properties when absolutely viral in the last days. let's just last couple of days. let's just take a little of look at take a little bit of a look at the shall . we? well, the clip, shall. we? well, joining me now to talk me through why he did this and what was really going on was the very landlord featured in that video . landlord featured in that video. it's samuel lead samuel, landlord featured in that video. it's samuel lead samuel , thank it's samuel lead samuel, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. right. so look, can you just clear things up because if you read all the articles and all the articles online and all the comments on twitter, it looks like you've kind of broken the law that all been a bit law and that it's all been a bit of a nightmare, really. so what was going there ? was going on there? >> well, firstly , by breaking >> well, firstly, by breaking entry to a property when there's

a guest in the property that's not paying rent, it's not breaking the law, it's completely legal . completely legal. >> but secondly, um , i did it >> but secondly, um, i did it deliberately as a stunt because i knew guaranteed. i said to all my friends that the media would report it like crazy and make me look like the bad guy. but the interesting thing is , if you go interesting thing is, if you go into a shop and you steal something, you go in and steal bread. everyone will say, that person deserves to be punished, but for some weird reason , you but for some weird reason, you steal from a landlord or a property owner and then suddenly it's all right. i'm the criminal. i'm the bad guy for evicting that person. so . so evicting that person. so. so yeah, there's a lot of nonsense being talked about on social media. um even, you know, it's very interesting as well. that video i posted was banned video that i posted was banned from , but then the daily from tiktok, but then the daily mail posted it and it's still up. there was there anyone in that property? i posted it and talk nonsense. >> yeah. was was there anyone in

that property? >> no, it was a stunt . it was >> no, it was a stunt. it was empty. i just bought it was a hotel class. class, um, class c1 hotel class. class, um, class c1 hotel with no tenants possibly in it because it's a hotel. and if there was tenants in it, they weren't paying their guests anyway. they don't pay. i can kick them out . kick them out. >> so how does it work, landlord? >> the difference. right. so the difference right, between a tenant and a guest. can you just explain that? yeah. people. well it seems like i have to because gb news don't have a clue because they reported today, landlord kicks out tenant with chainsaw tenant not a tenant in there . there. >> i never said there was a tenantin >> i never said there was a tenant in there. >> right. well, i certainly have. i'll be honest with you. i haven't seen that. i certainly haven't seen that. i certainly haven't reported that. so if that apologies. >> nonsense . >> but it's nonsense. >> but it's nonsense. >> so just, just >> right. so but just, just explain the difference between between guest and tenant then mate. go on. okay >> because landlords are so persecuted in this country , in persecuted in this country, in britain a lot of landlords are now renting their properties out

instead to guests . like, i like instead to guests. like, i like how you'd rent out a hotel so you don't rent the property . you you don't rent the property. you hire the property and you pay nightly for it. it's tax efficient . it gives way better efficient. it gives way better cash flow . and if your guest cash flow. and if your guest doesn't pay , they have no rights doesn't pay, they have no rights . if they're in there and they don't pay, you can kick them out within 24 hours. okay >> and i mean, do you have to kick people out a lot ? not not lot. >> but yeah, i do have to, um, and i did i did a, i did a post on twitter today, a poll and i said, if you've got someone living in your property and they're not paying you to stay there, should you a evict them or b just let them stay there for free. um, 62% of people and there was thousands of people that filled the poll out, 62% said, let them live there for free. >> really ? >> really? >> really? >> yeah. okay. because there is a perception, right? there is a perception . i mean, obviously, perception. i mean, obviously, however you choose to express,

you know, a staged eviction or whatever, whether or not that's with chainsaw through whatever, whether or not that's with cmeansv through whatever, whether or not that's with cmeans there1rough whatever, whether or not that's with cmeans there is ugh another means there is a perception that landlords are flush with cash, that they've got loads of money and then it doesn't really matter if someone doesn't really matter if someone doesn't , right, for doesn't pay rent, right, for a couple months, that couple of months, is that is that true? you're that true? i mean, you're described as a millionaire landlord. i mean, is that accurate ? accurate? >> i'd be embarrassed to be a millionaire. i'm a multi—millionaire and i make over £1 million a month. i was a millionaire. i'd be very embarrassed . right? so, yeah, embarrassed. right? so, yeah, i'm a multi—millionaire. embarrassed. right? so, yeah, i'm a multi—millionaire . so many millions. >> with respect, samuel, i suppose the argument might be that you probably could afford for somebody to maybe not pay rent. terrible argument i >> -- >> that's km- >> that's horrible argument. >> that's a horrible argument. and also. right, if someone's if someone's in a property and they're not paying rent, i mean, someone's in a property and theycouldt paying rent, i mean, someone's in a property and theycould say, 'ing rent, i mean, someone's in a property and theycould say, oh, rent, i mean, someone's in a property and theycould say, oh, well i mean, someone's in a property and theycould say, oh, well , mean, someone's in a property and theycould say, oh, well , asda1, you could say, oh, well, asda can , asda can afford can afford it, asda can afford for people to go in and steal bread. but we wouldn't say that because immoral. you should because it's immoral. you should pay because it's immoral. you should pay for the service that you have. it's irrelevant how rich i am. if someone's and also not only i'm probably the most compassionate in the uk

compassionate landlord in the uk . for the record, i don't go in and kick out tenants real fast. i'm a compassionate person, but if there's someone that's not paying if there's someone that's not paying and they they don't have a right to stay. evicting them is not at all. and also an interesting point is the media that jumped on that story real fast.i that jumped on that story real fast. i knew they would. it was in the it was in the mirror. the daily mail gb news. it was in, uh, all of them all it was the sun and all of them . number one sun and all of them. number one talked nonsense by saying landlord kicks out tenant. and it was all it was making it was all it was all making out. was illegal. it's not out. it was illegal. it's not illegal doesn't pay. illegal for guests, doesn't pay. you out instantly. you can get them out instantly. it's the as you're it's like the same as if you're at secondly, i was at a hotel. but secondly, i was paid as the criminal getting paid as the criminal for getting possession of my property back perfectly legally. it could have been that the person in there was a criminal was was was was running no no no, no running a brothel. no no no, no one thinks, oh wow. you know, everyone thinks, the everyone just thinks, oh, the landlord terrible. the whole landlord is terrible. the whole society narrative on society in the narrative on landlords screwed. landlords is just screwed. and right landlords need support. >> okay . all right. look,

>> okay. all right. look, samuel, thank you very much. i appreciate you coming on putting that across. you that side across. i hope you feel heard. it's, samuel feel heard. uh, it's, uh, samuel leeds there. who's the co—owner of interesting of property tribes. interesting stuff coming up. all of tomorrow's headlines tonight in my pack. give you my press pack. i'll give you a very first look at all of tomorrow's pages. plus, tomorrow's front pages. plus, we'll a former we'll be talking to a former detective constable of the greater manchester all greater manchester police. all about most mysterious about one of the most mysterious missing that missing person cases. this that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gbillionews . gbillionews. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> welcome to your latest gbillionews weather update from the met office this weekend will be a cloudy and fairly mild one for many of us, and there will be a lot of dry weather around. however, there is an amber rain warning in force for parts of northwest through much northwest scotland through much of saturday and sunday. that's because see this of because we'll see this string of weather fronts bringing some quite relentless rain throughout the , and we'll see some the weekend, and we'll see some of that rain throughout friday night. generally be night. it'll generally be a lighter it going to lighter than it is going to become over weekend, but become over the weekend, but it'll patchy and

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full circumstances surrounding his battye, who disappeared >> alex battye, who disappeared aged has been found and aged just 11, has been found and is set return to oldham in is set to return to oldham in a few hours time. i speak to a former top cop at greater manchester police as try to manchester police as we try to get of what's get to the bottom of what's really happened, i will all really happened, i will have all of front pages of tomorrow's front pages tonight from 10:30 pm. to make sure ahead the sure that you're ahead of the game. madness in game. i've been this madness in ukraine as well . yeah, almost ukraine as well. yeah, almost over tonight . it's the top team over tonight. it's the top team of the electric emma woolf, the titanic legend . that is john titanic legend. that is john sergeant and the amazing tonia buxton. this is patrick christys tonight. it's all go . tonight. it's all go. oh, tonight. it's all go. oh, i tonight. it's all go. oh, i forgot to say as well. rishi sunak christmas card is out . let's see how you rate it. out. let's see how you rate it. very, very shortly as we delve into some of the worst and best christmas cards of our politician, i'll see you after

the headlines saint francis the headlines with saint francis . patrick >> thank you. good evening. i'm sam francis in the gbillionews room. the headlines at ten. prince is calling for prince harry is calling for a fresh police investigation and a parliamentary inquiry into phone hacking. that's after his successful battle with the mirror newspapers . the mirror group newspapers. the duke of sussex was awarded more than £140,000 in damages after the high court ruled that editors and executives knew about extensive phone hacking . about extensive phone hacking. between 2006 and 2011, the judge also said journalists were involved in phone hacking at the time that piers morgan worked for daily mirror, but the for the daily mirror, but the former claims that he former editor claims that he never hacked phone told never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone. >> as him saying this is a >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been exposed in been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, refuses to accept any press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the

royal family, his own family , as royal family, his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims, as well . disgraceful claims, as well. >> tonight, we've learned that the death of hollywood actor matthew perry has been ruled an accident from the effects of ketamine, medical officials in los angeles have confirmed drowning was also a factor in his death . police were called to his death. police were called to the sitcom star's home in la in october, where he was found unresponsive in his pool. he died at the age of 54, three israeli hostages have been killed after troops misidentified . them as a threat misidentified. them as a threat and opened fire during their offensive in gaza . in offensive in gaza. in a statement, the israeli military said it had deep remorse for the tragic event and said the incident is under investigation. meanwhile israel said it will allow up to 200 trucks of aid per day into gaza through kerem shalom crossing . a move that's shalom crossing. a move that's been praised by the foreign secretary, david cameron. here in the uk , 1 million homes could

in the uk, 1 million homes could face significant council tax rises as more . local authorities rises as more. local authorities face serious gaps in funding. bradford, cheshire and middlesbrough councils have all announced they're at risk of effective bankruptcy. see it comes as a group of six labour mayors emergency mayors called for more emergency funding. they the funding. they say the government's plans to give £64 billion to councils next year won't cover rising costs or demand. but rishi sunak says he's putting record funding into local areas like middlesbrough over the past year. >> on average , councils are >> on average, councils are having about 10% more money to spend this year than they had the year before. actually, middlesbrough council has even more than that, more than the national average. and unfortunately, just unfortunately, this is just another example of a labour run council that's doing a bad job for its residents. it's mismanaging finances and mismanaging its finances and actually, that's an actually, you know, that's an example what when example of what you get when labour charge . labour in charge. >> the latest for more, >> that's the latest for more, we're on your tv, in your car , we're on your tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart this is . gb news.

smart speaker. this is. gb news. >> prince harry might have just been named as hollywood's biggest loser, but he will be celebrating a victory today of sorts. what sorts. to summarise what happened at the high court, harry was a victim of phone hacking. he's owed about £140,000 in compensate asian peers . morgan knew about phone peers. morgan knew about phone hacking . piers denies this. of hacking. piers denies this. of course, this case is not just about hacking, it is about a systemic practice of unlawful and appalling behaviour followed by cover ups and destruction of evidence , the shocking scale of evidence, the shocking scale of which can only be revealed through these proceedings. >> the court has found that mirror group's principle board directors , their legal directors, their legal department, senior executives and editors such as piers morgan clearly knew about or were involved in these illegal activities as well. >> earlier . i

activities as well. >> earlier. i said that piers denies any allegation. i mean, in reality, he more than just denies it. he came out swinging . denies it. he came out swinging. >> kyrees at media >> kyrees outrage at media intrusion into the private lives of the royal family only of the royal family is only matched by his own ruthless, greedy and hypocritical enthusiasm for doing it himself. this is a guy who's repeatedly trashed his family in public for hundreds of millions of dollars, even as two of its most senior and respected members were dying . his grandparents, the duke , . his grandparents, the duke, has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california tanned face. his real mission , along with his wife, is mission, along with his wife, is to destroy the british monarchy . to destroy the british monarchy. >> right? so if . to destroy the british monarchy. >> right? so if. harry had his phone hacked and that impacted his relationships, friendships and his mental health, i have sympathy that. sympathy with him for that. i can waging can understand harry waging war on rogue elements of the on some rogue elements of the old school press , but old school tabloid press, but waging his own family and waging war on his own family and by extension, the british public, unforgivable. is public, is unforgivable. this is a victory for harry when a hollow victory for harry when he sits down tonight and

reflects he'll have won a battle against some people that he hates , and helped the hates, and helped to pave the way other action going way for other action going forward. but who is he celebrating with? who has he got left ? i can understand celebrating with? who has he got left? i can understand him wanting to cause piers morgan and co some personal discomfort , and co some personal discomfort, but what about the discomfort he caused to our late queen and prince philip their final prince philip in their final moments? what the moments? what about the disrespect he showed our king disrespect he showed to our king on coronation day making disrespect he showed to our king 0|pointzoronation day making disrespect he showed to our king 0|point ofonation day making disrespect he showed to our king 0|point of making day making disrespect he showed to our king 0|point of making ity making disrespect he showed to our king 0|point of making it a making disrespect he showed to our king 0|point of making it a flying

else. he should cling on to this victory because in reality, i think that's all he's got. but respond now. i'm joined again by author and columnist and presenter tanya buxton, former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant, author and journalist emma woolf . i'll start my on this side and work my way down. tanya. look, i suppose it's a victory of sorts for do you think that for harry. do you think that excuses his . behaviour in the excuses his. behaviour in the last couple of years? >> it doesn't. it's not so sad as everybody loved harry. we all loved him. he was the cheeky, naughty used get naughty one he used to get up to. he was the that went to to. he was the one that went to the was a he was the army. he was a hero. he was the army. he was a hero. he was the all really the one that we all really secretly favouritism for. secretly had a favouritism for. and turned it to rot . and how he's turned it to rot. he's turned it to rot. what he did his grandparents, what did to his grandparents, what he's his brother, what he's done to his brother, what he's done to his brother, what he's done to his brother, what he's done to his sister law, he's done to his sister in law, what to his own father what he's done to his own father is and i just i is unbelievable. and i just i don't understand how he could have everything so wrong. have got everything so wrong. everything wrong . everything wrong. >> john, do you have sympathy for harry over this? do you

think it may be changes anyone's view of him in the public now? >> i don't think so. i think >> no, i don't think so. i think i think everyone agrees he's a he's a pathetic figure and he's been a pathetic figure and he's been a pathetic figure and he , behaved badly he has, um, behaved so badly towards . his he has, um, behaved so badly towards. his family. if he'd been , can you imagine if he'd been, can you imagine if he'd been, can you imagine if he'd been a dignified and dutiful member of the royal family? and then he'd brought the case, and then he'd brought the case, and then the exactly the same thing had people would say, had happened. people would say, good for you. you were absolutely right. and they were wrong to do it. they shouldn't have tapped phones. they shouldn't un underhand shouldn't have used un underhand methods to get stories , to sell methods to get stories, to sell their newspapers . so he would their newspapers. so he would have been in a perfect position . have been in a perfect position. but frankly, after he's done but frankly, after all he's done , he across as a rather , he comes across as a rather sad figure, particularly if he thinks this is a victory and you think, oh gosh, how pathetic . so think, oh gosh, how pathetic. so i'm afraid you know, sympathy for him for and meghan. not not in the slightest . they've made in the slightest. they've made a terrible fools of themselves and they've put themselves now, it seems to me a completely tragic course. now, now.

>> and , you know, again, i just >> and, you know, again, i just want to emphasise this , the, the want to emphasise this, the, the finding . today did obviously say finding. today did obviously say that he had his phone hacked and that he had his phone hacked and that that must have been very difficult for him . i think difficult for him. i think though, emma, the problem for me is if you seem to care so much about truth and privacy , why you about truth and privacy, why you would spent the last would have spent the last however many years revealing devil , stating personal devil, stating personal information not just about yourself, but others. and i keep coming back to this, including that woman who supposedly took his field behind his virginity in a field behind a pub garden. i mean, she was she just cracked on with her life. got a husband and life. she's got a husband and kids a kids now, you know, and all of a sudden know, a global sudden she's, you know, a global megastar that. well, megastar because of that. well, where privacy? there where was her privacy? there what of facts what about some of the facts when to like the when it comes to things like the royal row, etc? when it comes to things like the royiyeah, row, etc? when it comes to things like the royiyeah, exactly etc? when it comes to things like the royiyeah, exactly .etc? when it comes to things like the royiyeah, exactly . and i think as >> yeah, exactly. and i think as the others have said, he just seems like a deeply, deeply unhappy and very, very troubled individual . we know that he had individual. we know that he had a terrible trauma growing up, losing mother that losing your mother at that age is, obviously deeply is, you know, obviously deeply traumatic. but if you look at how william has rebuilt his life

and is a happy, balanced, caring , sharing individual. but, i mean, he's he's clearly a happy man. how he just seems so angry and bitter and full of vengeance. well one feels as though his only kind of raison d'etre now is these court cases where he's claims to be, you know, exposing it's a kind of crusade , really just just crusade, really just just vengeance . i mean, what else vengeance. i mean, what else does harry have? he's got he's still young. he's got a beautiful wife. he's got two lovely children. he lives in the sunshine. he's got untold wealth, millions. he could do so much with his life and actually, the only thing at the moment that seems to kind motivate that seems to kind of motivate or interest him is these libel cases. or interest him is these libel cases . and, as you say, trashing cases. and, as you say, trashing everybody else's lives. >> i mean, the thing is, i mean, he did he did win today. >> he did. >> he did. >> he should he should >> and he should have he should win should have >> and he should have he should win phone should have >> and he should have he should win phone i;hould have >> and he should have he should win phone i mean,have their phone hacked. i mean, that's pretty awful their phone hacked. i mean, that'sto pretty awful their phone hacked. i mean, that'sto happenetty awful their phone hacked. i mean, that'sto happen toy awful their phone hacked. i mean, that'sto happen to anyone and thing to happen to anyone and especially someone in the royal family i mean, a terrible family i mean, it's a terrible thing happen, nobody is thing to happen, but nobody is thinking said, thinking exactly as you said, john. you know, well done. you know, well done to him. we're

all thinking, well, what are you moaning about? privacy for when you've you've just ruined everybody privacy. you you've you've just ruined everyleverybody privacy. you you've you've just ruined everyleverybody else icy. you you've you've just ruined everyleverybody else underj you've you've just ruined everyleverybody else under the throw everybody else under the bus cares that you've bus so nobody cares that you've been vindicated now. >> the only worry is >> no, i mean, the only worry is and i feel is whenever we talk about and meghan, you think about him and meghan, you think that going to be the it's that it's going to be the it's so likely that there will be a tragic . know, tragic ending. you know, that he's got himself in a kind he's he's got himself in a kind of greek tragedy. really. you know, tragedy. know, classic greek tragedy. i don't a greek cypriot don't mean a greek cypriot tragedy. and you know, the tragedy. um and you know, the feeling that this is kind of clunking of away and that my only worry is if you're one of the people like me talking about it, are we not contributing to the downfall, the serious downfall, and maybe the tragic , downfall, and maybe the tragic, genuinely, genuinely tragic ending because that's the most likely outcome. >> but i agree with you. and one doesn't want to be kind of predicting , doesn't want to be kind of predicting, you doesn't want to be kind of predicting , you know, or doesn't want to be kind of predicting, you know, or dancing on grave of a, of a marriage on the grave of a, of a marriage or like that. but is it or anything like that. but is it the way round? these the other way round? these people they're people are so unhappy they're locked this kind of toxic locked in this kind of toxic thing where, i mean, both of them are estranged from their

family is pretty much you don't get that when have happy, get that when you have a happy, two individuals. two happy, balanced individuals. they themselves they don't alienate themselves from their nearest dearest. from their nearest and dearest. what i think the conclusion with and what i know, and i hate to blame the girl, i hate to blame the girl. >> but in this situation i'm going to say he was happy before meghan and he was with his family. he loved his brother, he adored kate . they were they were adored kate. they were they were this true, true , wholesome trio this true, true, wholesome trio they used to get on and laugh and really love each other for me, the toxicity was when meghan came in, i think he was always a bit of a weak. >> i think he's weak and vulnerable all of that, and vulnerable and all of that, and i think he's always been a bit of troubled soul. but of a troubled soul. but i definitely with you. definitely agree with you. >> is, the thing >> the thing is, the thing is today, the paranoia has become a lot worse since it's a lot worse since meghan. it's a person. person , we're person. it's a person, and we're going to get lot more going to get a lot more of these, because is these, though, because harry is immediately out said , immediately come out and said, look, you know, this needs to basically be the beginning , basically be the beginning, doesn't think he sees it doesn't it? i think he sees it as race crusade . as his race and his crusade. >> we're going through a cost of

living crisis. i know that's an overused but we are, and overused phrase, but we are, and that's i mean. seems to that's what i mean. he seems to be the most be thinking this is the most important thing in the world. this his crusade. and, well, this is his crusade. and, well, there's other things there's a lot of other things you could be doing, like william and going and opening baby and kate going and opening baby banks and talking to people about health selling about mental health or selling the streets. the big issue on the streets. all things that the other all these things that the other royals they're not royals are doing. they're not all saints, but what a shame. what a waste of a of an intelligent, wealthy individual to be doing this. >> and with all the advice he was given by his father and all the rest of it, but both over this and other things as to what is about the royals? what can is it about the royals? what can you where you do with their magic? where can ? where you from can you? where can you gain from all what an amazing all this? what an amazing position to be you've got all this? what an amazing posi platform. you've got all this? what an amazing posi platform. what»u've got all this? what an amazing posi platform. what can�* got all this? what an amazing posi platform. what can you do this platform. what can you do with it? and of course, all the sort of old parables come if you give to other people. this is where you feel satisfaction and he looks happy. >> take when you him at >> take when you see him at invictus, which is a wonderful thing he set up. he looks thing that he set up. he looks happy and fulfilled with so many of the people that he i just

think, the idea also, and think, but the idea also, and the saddest think is the saddest thing i think is when got this when he says he's got this mission think, oh god, mission and you think, oh god, yeah, he's going to yeah, well, so he's going to gnnd yeah, well, so he's going to grind this. yeah, well, so he's going to grirand this. yeah, well, so he's going to grirand will this. yeah, well, so he's going to grirand will tithen satisfied >> and will he then be satisfied and know, for and pleased? you know, for certain won't be. but there is. >> but there's also i think, something is very hard for something that is very hard for him to reconcile here, which is some that he was some of the things that he was getting now, some of them getting up to now, some of them he is alluded to his own he is alluded to in his own book. right. weren't reported on, knew were on, but people knew were happening . right. and you look happening. right. and you look at and think , well, at it and you think, well, actually a of actually there was a heck of a lot of stuff there, that lot of stuff there, harry, that if press really, really if the press were really, really that bad . they could have come that bad. they could have come out. and seriously, seriously, seriously damaged you. and that didn't happen. >> so now you're looking at he was was was that was when he was our cheeky harry. was that was when he was our cheyeahiarry. was that was when he was our cheyeah .irry. was that was when he was our cheyeah . as. was that was when he was our cheyeah . as soon as he started >> yeah. as soon as he started to get twisted, that's when the press you know, press sort of fine, you know, gloves the stories that >> now, some of the stories that people got about and >> now, some of the stories that pe0|think, got about and >> now, some of the stories that pe0|think, gosh, about and >> now, some of the stories that pe0|think, gosh, you ut and >> now, some of the stories that pe0|think, gosh, you know, and >> now, some of the stories that pe0|think, gosh, you know, that you think, gosh, you know, that didn't light of day that didn't see the light of day that never there. never got out there. >> look at this now and >> and you look at this now and you there you go, well, all right. there was of you dropping was a picture of you dropping somebody off in a particular location, tapped your location, and they tapped your phone not saying

phone. i'm not saying that's right. right. right. of course it's not right. but is he but you think, well, is he trying his cake and eat trying to have his cake and eat it trying to have his cake and eat h thank trying to have his cake and eat it thank much. it anyway? thank you very much. lively again the lively start again to the hour. coming of the lively start again to the hour. comof] of the lively start again to the hour. com of the of the lively start again to the hour. comof the most of the lively start again to the hour. comof the most entertaining e lively start again to the hour. comof the most entertaining and one of the most entertaining and lively newspaper review ever . as lively newspaper review ever. as we press pack through we take our press pack through tomorrow's front pages. but first, is , uh, got to be up first, this is, uh, got to be up there with one of the most mysterious missing person cases in history. alex battye, disappeared aged just 11, has been found. he handed himself in and he's set to return to oldham in a few hours time. i'll be speaking former top cop at speaking to a former top cop at greater manchester police to find out what mistakes may or may when may not have been made. when it comes finding now young comes to finding this now young adult, i suppose, and really , adult, i suppose, and really, what's happened to him? don't go anywhere .

weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . news channel. >> welcome back. a now . 17 year >> welcome back. a now. 17 year old british boy from greater manchester has been found in france after disappearing in 2017. alex batty was on a houday 2017. alex batty was on a holiday with his mother and grandfather when grandfather in spain when he mysteriously vanished a press mysteriously vanished in a press conference today, a conference earlier today, a french said that alex french prosecutor said that alex had of a community had been part of a community which lived a nomadic lifestyle in the pyrenees mountains, a community alex decided to leave when his mother said that they would have to move to finland. and what manchester and this is what manchester police is. assistant chief constable chris sykes had to say earlier our main priority earlier today. our main priority now see returned now is to see alex, returned home to his family in the uk and our investigation team are

working around the clock with partner agencies and the french authorities to ensure they are all fully supported . all fully supported. >> alex and his family remain our focus and we still have some work to do in establishing the full circumstances surrounding his disappearance and where he has been in all those years as well, alex is due to fly back to his grandmother in the uk any time now. >> actually , and working >> actually, and working opportunities missed by the authorities to bring alex home. joining me now to discuss this case is the former detective constable in the greater manchester area at greater manchester area at greater manchester police is maggie oliver. maggie, thank you very, very much. i you've been in very much. i know you've been in credibly outspoken and very brave when it comes to the way the have handled or not the police have handled or not handled incidents involving children the greater children around the greater manchester area from what you can see about this case, what's happened here, i mean, how has this kid gone missing, been missing for so long? just talk me through your views, please .

me through your views, please. >> um. good evening patrick. >> um. good evening patrick. >> um, i think really there's a lot of unanswered questions here, which probably will be answered over the coming days and weeks. i mean , what what and weeks. i mean, what what what occurs to me, first of all, is, you know, i've got a lot of questions as to, first of all, why this little this? well, he was a young boy of 12 when he went missing. but why was he in, um why was his grandma or his guardian? why was he not in the care of his mother? why was he allowed to go abroad with his grandfather mum? there grandfather and his mum? there were clearly family problems. um i think the thing that occurs to me as well is that i live in manchester. i live near manchester. i live near manchester. uh, alex went missing from oldham and yet until yesterday i had never heard this boy's name even mentioned in relation to him being missing. and i immediately probably like most other people in the country , think of in the country, think of madeleine mccann. i bet there isn't a person in the uk who

doesn't know madeleine mccann's name . um, so where was the name. um, so where was the pubuchy name. um, so where was the publicity around alex when he went missing? and you know , had went missing? and you know, had there been more of an outcry about him going missing, maybe he would have been found sooner ? he would have been found sooner? um, i think what i would say as well, patrick, because it is relevant at about ten years ago when i was in the police, i was, um, a family liaison officer, and clearly remember, um, and i clearly remember, um, another little boy going missing, um, from oldham when he was in pakistan with his dad. and i was the family liaison officer on that case. a little boy called sahil. um, he was kidnapped, found a ransom, was paid in france, and he returned home. but that story was all over every front page of every papeh over every front page of every paper. um so why has there not been publicity around alex? why has it taken so for long him to, um, escape ? what has happened in um, escape? what has happened in happened to him in the intervening times ? and, you intervening times? and, you know, the trauma that he will

feel probably for the rest of his life. um, will be very difficult to come to terms with. so a lot of unanswered questions, um, that i think will find more out about within the next few days. >> well, i mean, i think it's miraculous that he, as far as we're aware, is safe . and well, we're aware, is safe. and well, as you rightly said there, you know, no doubt there'll be some trauma along the way . and trauma along the way. and hopefully he gets all the help necessary for that. he's still 17 years old now, so not kind of legally an adult in that sense. his grandma has been speaking and saying that it was amazing to hear his voice and all of this. i imagine she's got some questions over the police. i mean, this guy was supposedly being held in a hippie commune somewhere in the pyrenees mountains . now i get that it's mountains. now i get that it's quite remote, but we're not talking about like the absolute back end of nowhere in the in the middle of the amazon rainforest. here are mean, rainforest. here are we? i mean, i just staggered that the i am just staggered that the full greater manchester full might of greater manchester police presumably interpol,

europol, it is. are we europol, whatever it is. are we not found this guy? he handed himself in? >> yeah. i mean, you know, i don't know what's happened to him, but there has clearly been a breakdown somewhere in, um, in communication, in whether i don't know the extent of the original police investigation , original police investigation, but as i say, i wasn't aware that he was missing. um i mean, l, that he was missing. um i mean, i, i think i feel very much for the grandma, um , and, you know, the grandma, um, and, you know, the grandma, um, and, you know, the trauma that she's been going through, not knowing whether she was ever going to see her grandson again. that must have been a horrific journey to have to travel. and i take my hat off to travel. and i take my hat off to for alex having the, the you know, the mind and the bravery really to escape from wherever he was being held . he clearly he was being held. he clearly wasn't happy where he was. we don't know yet where he was held . who with what's happened to him? um, all the consequences of that. you know, when he comes back here, there will be an extended period of time when

he'll be interviewed. there'll be a psychologist involved , be a psychologist involved, there'll be interviews. we there'll be video interviews. we might criminal offences. there'll be video interviews. we migsure criminal offences. there'll be video interviews. we mig sure we criminal offences. there'll be video interviews. we migsure we will nal offences. there'll be video interviews. we migsure we will have, fences. there'll be video interviews. we migsure we will have, because i'm sure we will have, because this, at the very least , i'm sure we will have, because this, at the very least, is child abduction. kidnapping false imprisonment. who knows? we really don't know. but, maggie. >> maggie. i mean, you know, you know better than anyone, actually, that greater manchester police, i mean, you you kind of quit to expose the grooming gang issue, right? and that was a massive, massive safeguarding issue. frankly, a cover up as well of epic proportions there and here we have very different issue as far as we're aware. but here we have as we're aware. but here we have a young child with clearly a complicated family background allowed to leave the country and then no massive publicity campaign to try to get him back. so do you think the microscope really will be on greater manchester police? well, in the coming days, well, what you probably asking the wrong person when it comes to that patriot, because i don't enough because i don't know enough about this case to criticise the police yet .

police yet. >> um, and i don't want to lose my credibility , um, and make it my credibility, um, and make it look as though i will you know, criticise the police when there is no grounds for criticism. what i will say, though, patrick, is that my work every single day within the maggie oliver foundation shows me that cover ups , corruption and cover ups, corruption and incompetence in greater manchester police is even worse than i first thought it was when i resigned ten years ago. um, i mean, we are dealing with the most horrific cases is right now, not historical grooming, gang cases, six sexual abuse cases where, you know, women and girls have been, um, unlawfully strip searched in police custody, treated like, um, you know , public enemy number one, know, public enemy number one, abuse of power for, uh, cover ups, corruption, a lack of transparency . um, with this transparency. um, with this case, i don't see any of that yet , but i case, i don't see any of that yet, but i don't case, i don't see any of that yet , but i don't know, looking yet, but i don't know, looking at the quality of many of the cases we're dealing with. you know, the question i ask is , was

know, the question i ask is, was everything done when this boy went missing? that could have been done . was the eye taken off been done. was the eye taken off the ball there definitely wasn't pubuchy the ball there definitely wasn't publicity that i would have liked to have seen. so a lot of unanswered questions and once we have the answers, i know a bit more then maybe i will have you know, um, uh, comments to make that would highlight where i feel that the mistakes were made. well, well , watch this space. >> look, maggie, thank you very, very for coming on very much for coming on in passing and passing some of your wisdom and expertise there. maggie oliver there, is a former detective there, who is a former detective constable at greater manchester police. look, it's important to say, obviously, greater manchester police aren't here to defend to of defend themselves to some of those doubt may those allegations. no doubt may well refute that. but this case is i mean, it's on one of the front pages that i'm going to go to shortly. unbelievable is to very shortly. unbelievable is the sun. i'll the headline in the sun. i'll just peak of just give you a sneak peak of that because it is unbelievable. this is a child now. that because it is unbelievable. this a is a child now. that because it is unbelievable. this a managing now. that because it is unbelievable. this a managing to w. that because it is unbelievable. this a managing to walk still a child managing to walk across the pyrenees mountains, escape , supposedly a hippie escape, supposedly a hippie cult. no idea what's happened to his mum or his grandfather , or his mum or his grandfather, or what him when he gets what awaits him when he gets back so

back into britain. hear so much more to come. but thank god he's alive well because all too alive and well because all too often, we know in missing often, as we know in missing children's cases, that is not what happens . but yes. next i do what happens. but yes. next i do bnng what happens. but yes. next i do bring you tonight's panel top bring you tonight's panel of top punst bring you tonight's panel of top pundits through pundits to run through tomorrow's front pages. it is the liveliest paper of view anywhere on british telly. my panel nominating as panel will be nominating as well, greatest britain well, their greatest britain and union from this week. union jackass from this week. and do have some early and i do have some early revelations for and contenders for worst political christmas cards you have ever seen . i'll cards you have ever seen. i'll

listening to gb news radio show. >> let's bring you tomorrow's news tonight. >> now in the liveliest paper of view anywhere on the telly . view anywhere on the telly. yeah, the very first front pages have just landed in front of me here. we're going with the sun. unbelievable gran of missing alex telles of joy at hearing his voice. so this is the

grandma of that missing boy, alex batty. who was it says here, by his mum here, kidnapped by his mum and grandad aged just 11, grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to join some kind of cult grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france.ne kind of cult grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france. sheind of cult grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france. she has)f cult grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france. she has spoken cult grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france. she has spoken t0|lt grandad in 2017, aged just 11, to france. she has spoken to him in france. she has spoken to him over the phone. he's on his way back possibly now. back to britain, possibly now. actually, i'm going to chat to back to britain, possibly now. act|paneli'm going to chat to back to britain, possibly now. act|panel abouting to chat to back to britain, possibly now. act|panel about that) chat to back to britain, possibly now. act|panel about that shortly.» back to britain, possibly now. act|panel about that shortly. the my panel about that shortly. the guardian now though, a great day for truth. prince harry wins hacking case. judge rules that there was extensive hacking by there was extensive hacking by the mirror and awards 140 grand in damages . so we've spoken in damages. so we've spoken about that. quite a lot. big picture of a smiling prince harry on the front there. then the telegraph sadiq khan blocks cars for ukraine scheme non ulez .four cars for ukraine scheme non ulez . four by fours will be scrapped rather than sent to kyiv as klitschko's idea is dismissed as sadiq khan in a bit of trouble with the ukraine community there. there is also a giant picture of piers morgan on because he clapped back big time over prince harry and david cameron has no place in uae, telegraph says . while nigel telegraph says. while nigel farage has urged rishi sunak to ensure that lord cameron plays no role in the telegraph sale.

we go over to the eye now. millions face mortgage misery for longer than expected. higher borrowing costs are on their way, with more than 1 in 5 fixed rate mortgage deals coming up for renewal next year. the concern are that more than 15% of all mortgage holders , which of all mortgage holders, which is 1.5 million people, will face an expensive new deals as an average two year fixed rate is now jumped to nearly 6. yikes the mirror question of sport axed iconic bbc quiz show to be kicked off screen after 53 years. host paddy mcguinness is said to be gutted . all right, so said to be gutted. all right, so okay, let's go in with my panel and look, i do think i'm going to stick actually with what's on the front of the sun, which is this unbelievable story , as they this unbelievable story, as they say, there, this this missing child more. child not missing any more. tonya look, this is going to be a film soon. i imagine it's unbelievable. >> literally is unbelievable. like the headline says. i mean , like the headline says. i mean, how he could have disappeared. the fact that he had to trek across the pyrenees to get away

from what i gather his grandfather died recently and his mother's escaped to finland or something. i'm not sure what's going on there, but crazy how how did our police or how did they not track him? how did they not look for the mother to find the son? how could she just take him like that for all take him away like that for all these i mean, they've got some. >> $— @ got some serious, >> they've got some serious, serious i mean, serious questions. i mean, obviously, reading obviously, i mean, reading between great between the lines again, great amount might amount of police might deny this, they clearly this, but i think they clearly thought they weren't ever going to lad and to see this lad again. and he's handed police handed himself into a police station mean, station in toulouse. i mean, emma, you emma, this is remarkable, you say anymore. say not missing anymore. >> not a child anymore. he's reappearing and he's teenager reappearing and he's a teenager now. he's a late, you know. he's 17, 17 old. imagine that . 17,17 years old. imagine that. you're 11 year old. goes missing. i know it's the grandmother, but she sounds absolutely delighted. and the way it happened, he's this driver picked him up on the road delivery let him facebook delivery driver let him facebook his grandma on his phone. i mean, the wonders and the. it is just an absolute miracle. >> it is . john, what do you make >> it is. john, what do you make of this? i think it's extraordinary. >> i mean, what was he doing?

why did why didn't he think of this five years ago when he was 12 something? i mean, i think 12 or something? i mean, i think it's because he was 12. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what's extraordinary, >> yeah. >> is1at's extraordinary, >> yeah. >> is1at's thisnordinary, >> yeah. >> is1at's this|ordi|of y, though, is that this sort of feeling that nobody knows the sort this is regarded normal sort of this is regarded normal for and a grandfather , for a mother and a grandfather, and the mother is not responsible for the child. well, who is responsible? yeah but the feeling can then for feeling that you can then do for between cracks and like kids between the cracks and like kids not turning up at school, you know, tens thousands of kids know, tens of thousands of kids just not going school, nobody just not going to school, nobody follows it up. nobody then says , follows it up. nobody then says, well, who is this? what's going on? and in the past, you do feel that know , like my dad used that you know, like my dad used to be a vicar and things he would know was going in would know what was going on in the there would the village. there would be a sort of of community. yeah the village. there would be a sort wouldn't of community. yeah the village. there would be a sort wouldn't of c not a lot being about that. >> nothing's been about >> nothing's been done about it. but does give hope. have but it does give hope. i have a sneaky feeling that it's sneaky feeling that that it's got to with the

got something to do with the grandfather that he then grandfather dying. that he then maybe, know what's maybe, i don't know what's happened to him, what's happened to these five, six years? to him in these five, six years? what was he in? what type of place was he in? >> the mother >> well, apparently the mother didn't in didn't want him to be in mainstream education. and so the idea was sort of it idea is that he was sort of it was alternative commune or was an alternative commune or community that she'd taken him to. course, don't to. but of course, we don't know. know, know know. we don't know, don't know yet also, the school should >> also, the school there should be the education authorities. i've never of say, hold on i've never heard of say, hold on a this? a moment. what is all this? but it's wonderful, because it's wonderful, though, because you has gone you know, gaynor lord has gone missing terrible missing and there's terrible anxiety missing and there's terrible anxand that's been week . and, >> and that's been a week. and, you madeleine mccann has you know, madeleine mccann has never just never been found. and it's just wonderful don't always wonderful that we don't always have up hope that there have to give up hope that there are no. are 110. >> are no. >> yeah, absolutely . let's just >> yeah, absolutely. let's just was to another story was he on to another story is going inside of the going to be on the inside of the telegraph which is x telegraph now which is x facebook diversity manager please . guilty to stealing $4 please. guilty to stealing $4 million to fund lifestyle . well million to fund lifestyle. well and so barbara furlough smiles but she was smiling flipping out a global diversity executive at facebook between 2017 and 2021 siphoned off cash through an elaborate scheme involving fake

suppliers. i mean, she's done. >> she's done all the she's spent the money, she's done all the old classics, aren't she? she's money bespoke she's spent the money on bespoke portraits, she spent portraits, but also she spent loads of money, $18,000 on pre—school tutors . so at least pre—school tutors. so at least she putting the money to her she was putting the money to her children's she was putting the money to her childre|weird for silver. really? weird for silver. >> like, i've got to say that this is this is a classic example. why diversity, equality and inclusion officers not and inclusion officers are not needed our world. they're needed in our world. they're just not needed. i agree that's what they do. honestly. >> i agree . i think there's >> now i agree. i think there's another point here too. i can see facebook executives see the facebook executives saying, what do we need? what we've diversity we've got this diversity manager, they do? oh, it manager, what do they do? oh, it doesn't pointer . doesn't matter. just a pointer. but find out what? but shouldn't we find out what? no no, we've the no no, look, we've ticked the box . we've got a diversity box. we've got a diversity manager. exactly . we now manager. yeah, exactly. we now go on and do other things that are more important. and meanwhile , this woman's cycling meanwhile, this woman's cycling off couch and there off the couch and she's there for years. years. it's for four years. four years. it's not of $1 million a year. not sort of $1 million a year. >> it's always these kind of jobs. the personal jobs. and also the personal assistants, they always siphon off a bit there.

off a bit here and a bit there. >> also it's people not >> but also it's people not caring what she's doing. yeah. it means the rest of the it means that the rest of the organisation . then that organisation. then who is that person? i've see her every now and then. person? i've see her every now ancjohn,. you it's not >> john, do you think it's not caring it is caring or do you think it is that. gosh, don't question that. oh gosh, don't question the don't the diversity. you don't question the equality officer. don't goodness all >> my goodness i think it's all all those it's just it's all those things. it's just it's all those things. it's just it's a dreadful aspect you imagine a dreadful aspect of you imagine the hr, let's have a diversity of and i was talking to someone in service about this in the civil service about this and i said, can't you rid of and i said, can't you get rid of these managers and these diversity managers and surely it be temporary. you surely it must be temporary. you could bring in say, could bring somebody in to say, let us make sure there's more diversity , but you don't need to diversity, but you don't need to have for four years. do it. have them for four years. do it. i shouldn't be they i mean, they shouldn't be they should . come in should be consultant. come in and say, you know what? you ought to do. what about this? and i'll come and can you do that? i'll come back months. see how back in six months. see how you're getting on. yeah, you you're getting on. yeah, but you don't the don't need to be there in the office people office counting people every day. they? day. how diverse are they? >> you know what this reminds me of, though? it does remind me of the fact that last summer, the nhs hired four no. seven diversity costs . diversity officers. huge costs. yes, they were getting yes, they were all getting quarter a million each. seven

quarter of a million each. seven different getting quarter of a million each. seven diffe|diversity, getting quarter of a million each. seven diffe|diversity, inequalityting quarter of a million each. seven diffe|diversity, inequality and four. diversity, inequality and inclusion paint rainbows on their you know exactly. i think absolutely dreadful. this is this is the time now to get rid of all of these people. yeah. >> know the question that >> you know the question that flaws nurses flaws when you hear these nurses strikes strikes question flaws when you hear these nurses strikfloors strikes question flaws when you hear these nurses strikfloors these s question flaws when you hear these nurses strikfloors these s q|when 1 that floors these people when you is why? why is you get them on is why? why is the diversity worth five the diversity officer worth five times what are? and times what you are? and obviously and obviously they haven't got and you how long obviously they haven't got and yoit how long obviously they haven't got and yoit you how long obviously they haven't got and yoit you turn how long obviously they haven't got and yoit you turn onv long obviously they haven't got and yoit you turn on the 1g is it before you turn on the system and not just not just the government, not this, stop it. >> just nonsense. yeah, right. >> just nonsense. yeah, right. >> look, a >> okay, look, i've got a little, you now, little, um, clip for you now, which bizarre to say the which is bizarre to say the least . and it's out of . ukraine least. and it's out of. ukraine it's well, to say it's explosive would be an understatement. let's play it . let's play it. >> yeah , yeah. all right >> yeah, yeah. all right. >> yeah, yeah. all right. >> so that is the moment that a ukrainian local politician . let

ukrainian local politician. let off three grenades at a village council meeting in ukraine. 26 people have been wounded as it currently stands. and we're not aware that anyone has died . but aware that anyone has died. but it's just a remarkable incident to be caught on film as well. i mean , you know, grief. the man mean, you know, grief. the man who's named as local council who's named as a local council representative was entering the meeting, uh, standing by the door and then decided to pop a couple of grenades, he said casually. may i, before threw casually. may i, before he threw them out . anyway, the answer. them out. anyway, the answer. otherwise would have otherwise everyone would have told we go told him no. but there we go anyway. next, told him no. but there we go anywtof next, told him no. but there we go anywt of tomorrow's next, told him no. but there we go anywt of tomorrow's front next, told him no. but there we go anywtof tomorrow's front pages told him no. but there we go anyyou. tomorrow's front pages told him no. but there we go anyyou. the orrow's front pages told him no. but there we go anyyou. the cringiestont pages told him no. but there we go anyyou. the cringiest political; for you. the cringiest political christmas cards as well. we've got crackers here, if got some crackers here, if you'll excuse the pun. i didn't even that. gallery. even mean that. sorry, gallery. i've got a load of bars in i've just got a load of bars in my ear. anyway, panel will my ear. anyway, my panel will nominate britain nominate their greatest britain and and jackass. don't move. and uni and jackass. don't move. more your more front pages heading your way

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month long wait. just to see your gp. 1 million more patients a month are facing 28 day delays. we'll talk about that in more detail over to the daily mail. half price christmas bonanza for bargain hunters are struggling. retailers launch sales. so apparently major stores are now mounting half price sales in a desperate bid to shift their stock . house of to shift their stock. house of fraser flannels sports direct they're already at 50. john lewis is promoting half price gifts argos, boots, debenhams, right. lucky people get out now. daily express yep, tragic end in hunt for gainer. the family of missing mum gaynor lord have been left devastated after a woman's body was recovered from a where she vanished. a river near where she vanished. of course, was another of course, that was another missing person's case that was gripping the country yesterday . gripping the country yesterday. look, we're gonna have a quick chat about what's going on in the on front page. the times now on the front page. uh, to massive picture of uh, next to a massive picture of nigella lovely ever. >> e even en- >> even even having nigella looking like a real hottie is not going to get you to be able to swallow digest that pill. no

way. >> no, i mean no. absolutely not. and this, this millions of people waiting more than a month for a gp appointment. tanya not on. >> no, it's just not on. and i mean, what's happening is that then people are then going to a&e you cannot move in a&e . a&e and you cannot move in a&e. i don't know what's going to happen, something to happen, but something has to change to change now. change and it has to change now. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> good. just can't continue in this people are , you know, this way. people are, you know, doing terrible things to themselves can't themselves because they can't get doctor. you know, themselves because they can't ggot doctor. you know, themselves because they can't ggot i doctor. you know, themselves because they can't ggot i don't doctor. you know, themselves because they can't ggot i don't mind or. you know, themselves because they can't ggot i don't mind admitting)w, this. >> i got a letter through for a referral to see a specialist today and appointment on today, and my appointment is on the 28th of may. >> mean, outrageous. >> i mean, it's outrageous. >> i mean, it's outrageous. >> six not i'm not i'm obviously not going to do that. right. so i'm to go private. i'm going to go private. >> because you can. >> yeah. because you can. >> yeah. because you can. >> because because >> well yeah. because because thankfully thankfully can. thankfully i thankfully i can. um, private health um, but you know private health insurers missing demand insurers report missing demand for gp appointments. so that's the first thing i thought i the first thing i thought when i opened that letter was, oh, thank private. i thank god, i can go private. i don't to, but just don't want to have to, but just also i pay also make me wonder what i pay my for. to fair. john. my taxes for. to be fair. john. >> mean, it's, uh, it >> yeah. no i mean, it's, uh, it is shocking course, is shocking this. and of course, it just get the it just you just get the

impression we're all impression that we're all getting that there are getting iller and that there are fewer people to look after us for one reason or another. and we're getting more ill because of that . so we are in a kind of of that. so we are in a kind of awful spiral, aren't we? a downward spiral ? yeah. and you downward spiral? yeah. and you don't there's any way don't think there's any way around this, you think? well, surely waiting lists will go around this, you think? well, surelydramatically. .ists will go around this, you think? well, surelydramatically. the will go down dramatically. the pandemic's . now. pandemic's long gone now. now. but oh, no. no, there it is . but oh, no. no, there it is. right? >> pandemic. >> pandemic. >> really weird. is that one doesn't have a gp anymore. i have like a doctor at the surgery nearby , but i can't see surgery nearby, but i can't see the same . when i was a kid you'd the same. when i was a kid you'd see your gp, you would see your family gp. they knew your history, knew any history, they knew any conditions that you had. they knew your background. absolutely i eveh knew your background. absolutely i ever. i can't get an i do not ever. i can't get an appointment my surgery appointment at my surgery because and because it's a good surgery and i've various places to get i've moved various places to get to surgery for my child to a decent surgery for my child . but you cannot see the same person. you always see someone else. >> they don't know anything. i asked for a blood test. they stare at the screen and they type away they ask for. i type away and they ask for. i asked blood they asked for a blood test. they didn't that blood test. they

didn't do that blood test. they didn't do that blood test. they did all the blood tests and i said, i'm sorry, we'd said, i'm sorry, but we'd arranged blood test. arranged for that blood test. you weeks have you know, several weeks have gone by consult agent wants to know result the know what is the result of the blood test. and they said, oh, i thought that was necessary, said the assist and assistant. ridiculous, ridiculous . have ridiculous, ridiculous. have you? and you said, this is crazy . we just weeks weeks wasted. >> yeah, indeed . well, um, we >> yeah, indeed. well, um, we are going to , i think maybe are going to, i think maybe lighten it slightly . okay. lighten it slightly. okay. because it's a bit fun. this rishi sunak has raised some eyebrows this week as his official christmas card provoked more than a few giggles from both the recipients and the internet. so there's been more than a few weird and wonderful festive greeting cards sent round by the powers that be in the last few decades. we're going to have whizz through the last few decades. we're going of have whizz through the last few decades. we're going of hav best/hizz through the last few decades. we're going of hav best and through the last few decades. we're going of hav best and theiugh the last few decades. we're going of hav best and the worst some of the best and the worst political cards. so political christmas cards. so here's the prime minister, here's what the prime minister, rishi , sent round to his rishi sunak, sent round to his loved and journalists loved ones and lobby journalists this year . if loved ones and lobby journalists this year. if just maybe this year. if we can just maybe just that strap for just get rid of that strap for a second there as because second there as well, because for important which for an important reason, which is have is they're tiny. have they actually even have shrunk actually even have they shrunk him well ? him as well? >> literally shrunk what is

going on? >> they're all about three foot tall. >> isn't that just like quite weird though . why have you, weird though. why have you, like, spray painted a hat on and odd? no is that just me? >> the dog has a carrot. yeah, the wife has a. his wife has a christmas tree on her head. >> isn't i know it's very odd, you know, i just think i miss you know, ijust think i miss traditional christmas cards. yeah >> they're trying to be funny and fun and a bit christian. >> so he doesn't probably take it as seriously. but i don't like this at all. i think it's awful. they look weird. awful. and they look weird. >> well, rishi even gave us a corker chancellor 2021. corker as chancellor in 2021. that's in flip that's bad. merry xmas in flip flops and socks. >> californians >> expensive californians sliders. he's got the sliders. i find that disrespectful. >> firstly, i hate xmas, i hate that, yeah, it's christmas. i hate the abbreviation and to put it on your feet. >> i mean weird isn't it? it's really weird. >> it's really disappointing. >> it's really disappointing. >> it's really disappointing. >> it's a joke because everyone was his was taking the mickey of his californian oh, i see californian sliders. oh, i see still, still though the expense of christmas. >> all right. so simple , but to >> all right. so simple, but to the from then. foreign

the point from then. foreign secretary liz truss. we go i >> -- >> well, least it's traditional tinsel. >> yeah. is there a thing of some lights? anyway, there we go. good old, good old union flag. that union flag. now the classic as well. the myth, the legend, the epitome , uh, of so legend, the epitome, uh, of so bad. it's good political cards. it's one i like it i can't bear. blair. anthony charles lynton blair, his wife cherie , from, blair, his wife cherie, from, uh, from 19, uh, 98. that one was. that was all right. there was. that was all right. there was of course, i like that. there was, of course , the one, there was, of course, the one, the quite famous one. like he was knock someone out. was about to knock someone out. but minister but here's the prime minister uh, around his loved uh, sent around to his loved ones. obviously that was, uh, rishi sunak one. before that, we all who do you rate most all saw so who do you rate most out that out of all of that one? that that that that one was all right, i think i think fact, right, i think i think in fact, i going to i tell you what we're going to do now a bit of balance. do now for a bit of balance. let's look at the best let's look at some of the best ones, right? johnson ones, right? boris johnson from 2020 dog 2020 is his dog with a dog with a refund. is that no that's not a christmas card. >> not bad >> it's not it's not a bad joke. >> it's not it's not a bad joke. >> a bad joke. >> it is a bad joke. >> it is a bad joke. >> priti patel making quite the festive statement in 22 again. i

mean, there's a christmas tree there least. no i mean, there at least. no i mean, i don't even know what that is . don't even know what that is. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> this is a strong argument against christmas cards, isn't it. yeah. well i, when it. yeah. well when i, when i was, when i was a lobby correspondent , we would get correspondent, we would get cards from the prime minister and things, and that was fun because you'd put it up on that thing. oh did you get one? oh, yeah. yeah, yeah. all sort of silly . yeah. it was kind of nice silly. yeah. it was kind of nice and exciting . and exciting. >> all right. well, i've got theresa from 2016. let's theresa may from 2016. let's have look . oh, what is wrong have a look. oh, what is wrong with you? can't you just slap a christmas tree on there? say, happy flipping christmas , you happy flipping christmas, you know, be done with it. know, and be done with it. anyway and this is, this is everyone's favourite . uh, there everyone's favourite. uh, there we go. that is, uh, that is, of course, william and kate . i course, william and kate. i mean, to honest with you, mean, to be honest with you, gorgeous. do look lovely. gorgeous. they do look lovely. there lovely. there is not lovely. >> but also they take this very seriously. so they get the best photographer. seriously. so they get the best photographer . they seriously. so they get the best photographer. they make sure it's done properly . they make it's done properly. they make sure lighting good. they sure the lighting is good. they make they've awake for make sure they've been awake for something .

something they didn't. >> something going on >> there was something going on with there was a of a well, there was a bit of a photoshop query. >> yeah. with the child. yeah, yeah. >> but know, yeah. » but >> but you know, they look beautiful all right, look, we're going up a bit now going to liven it up a bit now and reveal today's greatest britain. and union jackass. britain. and union jackass . tonya >> and union jackass. tonya who's your greatest britain? >> so my greatest britain. and because it breaks my heart is denise ferguson . oh, gosh. yeah. denise ferguson. oh, gosh. yeah. um, watching her interview today, the one that she did with eamonn holmes , it's broken eamonn holmes, it's broken my heart. broken my heart. the heart. it's broken my heart. the bravery, bravery of that woman. the fact that she's puts one foot front of the other every foot in front of the other every day after losing her beautiful son, jamie , it breaks my heart. son, jamie, it breaks my heart. so i think she should be honoured. >> and i do think people, you >> and i do think people, if you haven't already, do go >> and i do think people, if you hatyoutube, already, do go >> and i do think people, if you hatyoutube, go already, do go >> and i do think people, if you hatyoutube, go onzady, do go >> and i do think people, if you hatyoutube, go on twitter» go >> and i do think people, if you hatyoutube, go on twitter oro on youtube, go on twitter or whatever and have a look at that interview that eamonn holmes did. yes, john, who's your did. there yes, john, who's your greatest really unusual one, >> i chose a really unusual one, right? do this. right? i don't normally do this. the prime minister. rishi sunak oh, because he's had a difficult week. yes he has had quite a bit of success amazingly, and i just think that it's there's

something about him that it's easy to criticise. prime ministers always criticise . and ministers always criticise. and isupposei ministers always criticise. and i suppose i know the sort of the whole sort of life at westminster and the life at number 10. i know it well over many years and every and many years and every now and then, at time then, particularly at this time of year, think, oh, i'm glad of year, you think, oh, i'm glad i'm minister. i'm glad i'm not prime minister. i'm glad i'm not prime minister. i'm glad i'm minister. yeah, i'm not prime minister. yeah, he's week . gets he's had quite a week. he gets my enough. my vote. fair enough. >> emma mine is an >> all right. emma mine is an honorary because honorary brit because she's actually madonna . okay. she's been >> um, madonna. okay. she's been prancing around wearing her bustier. she's 65 years old, and she doesn't give a damn what anybody thinks . wow. well, quite anybody thinks. wow. well, quite clearly, a 35 year old, 30 year old. >> one of a long list of younger men , to be fair. um, right. so men, to be fair. um, right. so we're going to go for the winner of the greatest britain is denise fergus. of the greatest britain is denise fergus . yes, absolutely. denise fergus. yes, absolutely. i think it's impossible to not today. right. we've got about 90s left on show. so, tanya, your union jackass prince harry, i even need explain . i don't even need to explain. yes. yeah, let's just leave that there. john. okay. there. go on. john. okay. >> lineker, i don't need >> gary lineker, i don't need to explain . explain. >> okay. have a go. >> okay. have a go. >> all those tory rwanda rebels

who so pathetic and who are so pathetic and apathetic and cowardly that they can't . these rebels who can't can't. these rebels who can't even rebel instead they abstained. at least i might have respected them if they had rebelled . rebelled. >> you know, it's interesting. the rebels you were spot on, all of you, by the way. but i think the gary on own the gary lineker on his own colleagues out. colleagues have now come out. they called him the, the tucker carlson of britain. i thought, good surely not, you carlson of britain. i thought, good surely irely not, you carlson of britain. i thought, good surely not. not, you carlson of britain. i thought, good surely not. lot, you carlson of britain. i thought, good surely not. i meant carlson of britain. i thought, good surely not. i mean he's know. surely not. i mean he's not the tucker carlson of anything. he going the anything. is he going right the union the winner union jack ass today. the winner is harry of course it is is prince harry of course it is today of all days. look, can i just say thank you very, very much wonderful panel. i've much to my wonderful panel. i've really it tonight. really enjoyed it tonight. it's been varied and been a quite a varied and wonderful show. i've had tonya, john and emma. i'd just like to wish all a very, happy wish you all a very, very happy weekend to off do my weekend ahead. i'm to off do my christmas tomorrow, christmas shopping tomorrow, so wish battle with wish me luck as i do battle with the of people on oxford the hordes of people on oxford street. and do street. i'm going to try and do it all in a oner. >> you're getting 50% off so don't moan. >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactly. know, i know the >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactle'mknow, i know the >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactle'm hitting, know the >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactle'm hitting, butiv the >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactle'm hitting, but i the >> wow, this is it. yeah, exactle'm hitting, but i hope shops i'm hitting, but i hope you all have a wonderful weekend. you've got headliners

next. he'll take you through in a some of these a bit more detail. some of these papers you can get in papers but yes, you can get in touch ng touch as well. gb views ng news.com . if you want to get in news.com. if you want to get in touch with them and do go and watch back some bits of this show on youtube if you've missed any a weekend any of it. have a great weekend everybody. on everybody. i will see you on monday everybody. i will see you on m0ia ay everybody. i will see you on m0ia brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar weather on . gb news. >> hello! welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. this weekend will be a cloudy and fairly mild one for many of us, and there will be a lot of dry weather around . lot of dry weather around. however, there is an amber rain warning in force for parts of northwest scotland through much of and sunday. that's of saturday and sunday. that's because we'll see this of because we'll see this string of weather some weather fronts bringing some quite rain throughout weather fronts bringing some quitweekend rain throughout weather fronts bringing some quitweekend , rain throughout weather fronts bringing some quitweekend , and n throughout weather fronts bringing some quitweekend , and we'll ughout weather fronts bringing some quitweekend , and we'll see )ut weather fronts bringing some quitweekend , and we'll see some the weekend, and we'll see some of that rain throughout friday night. it'll generally be a lighter than it is going to become weekend, but become over the weekend, but it'll still be fairly patchy and persistent further south. it should stay through of should stay dry through much of the night . there could some the night. there could be some drizzle ground in

drizzle over the high ground in the west and in the east. we could see some clear spells developing, allowing for a slightly but slightly cooler start. but elsewhere it's likely to be a very mild start to the weekend, particularly in northern areas of however, here it of scotland. however, here it will be quite a windy and wet day throughout saturday we'll see the rain really start to persist into the afternoon. further south, still staying largely dry but cloudy and i think it will be a windier day than today out there tomorrow and temperatures again around 11 or 12 degrees. so on the milder side of things for this time of yeahin side of things for this time of year, in the far north of scotland through sunday, the rain will continue. it turns particularly heavy from saturday night will persist all the night and will persist all the way through sunday into monday as well. so there is an amber warning force. could see as well. so there is an amber wa much force. could see as well. so there is an amber wa much asorce. could see as well. so there is an amber wa much as 200mm could see as well. so there is an amber wa much as 200mm of uld see as well. so there is an amber wa much as 200mm of rain, ee as well. so there is an amber wa much as 200mm of rain, which as much as 200mm of rain, which does bring a risk of landslides. that rain will sink southwards through monday and that will allow cooler arrive allow some cooler air to arrive from north. from the north. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on .

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investigation and a parliamentary inquiry into phone hacking. that's after his successful battle with the mirror group newspapers . the mirror group newspapers. the duke of sussex was awarded more than £140,000 in damages after the high court ruled that editors and executives knew about extensive phone hacking . about extensive phone hacking. between 2006 and 2011. the judge also accepted that piers morgan knew that journalists were involved in phone hacking while he worked at the daily mirror, but the former editor claims he has never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone. >> as for him saying this is a good day for truth, the duke has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his california face, he california tanned face, he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself. for smearing the royal family. his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims . disgraceful claims. >> the death of hollywood actor matthew perry has been ruled an

accident from