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koala bears, though . about that, koala bears, though. about that, uh, reece oliver will be joining us in the studio to tell us his story. >> plus, we'll be speaking to the associate director of marie curie who will be telling us curie, who will be telling us how they're helping people this christmas lost a loved how they're helping people this chrisit|as lost a loved how they're helping people this chrisit is. lost a loved how they're helping people this chrisit is a lost a loved how they're helping people this chrisit is a very lost a loved how they're helping people this chrisit is a very difficult a loved how they're helping people this chrisit is a very difficult time ed one. it is a very difficult time of year for so many people. >> it sure is. and with christmas, less than ten days away, are the chances of away, what are the chances of a white christmas this . we are white christmas this. we are dreaming of it. >> that would be nice, wouldn't it? a >> that would be nice, wouldn't it.7 a white christmas and don't forget, of course, we want to hear from you. this show is nothing without you. we love to hear them, don't hear from them, don't we.7 vaiews@gbnews.com. >> before we do >> yes, but before we do anything ray edison has anything else, ray edison has all your news headlines . all your news headlines. >> thank you both . good morning. >> thank you both. good morning. it's 10:01. our top stories >> thank you both. good morning. it's10:01. our top stories this houn it's10:01. our top stories this hour. rishi sunak is set to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration with italy's right

wing prime minister, giorgia meloni . the meeting, which is meloni. the meeting, which is taking place in rome, comes as he tries to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration during the trip . mr sunak will also attend trip. mr sunak will also attend an event organised by melonis brothers of italy party, which elon musk is also expected to attend. border security expert henry bolton told us the pm needs to find a real solution in. >> i think it is a bit of a gimmick and i worry that everybody or governments , everybody or governments, parliaments, politicians, the media, the public has become fixated on rwanda. we shouldn't be. there are a whole range of other risks out there, as well as immigration. there's all the cocaine, all the heroin , 97% of cocaine, all the heroin, 97% of the illegal firearms that enter the illegal firearms that enter the that are in this country have entered across our borders , have entered across our borders, and rwanda won't work. i'm absolutely convinced rwanda will not do what the government says it will do . it will do. >> the metropolitan police says it will carefully consider a

civil judgement handed down yesterday that found that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability. the met says while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation in british schoolboy alex batty who went missing some six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the united kingdom this afternoon. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he was living with his mum . alex's grandmother, who his mum. alex's grandmother, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited. charlie hedges is a missing persons expert. he told us alex made a very difficult decision . decision. >> what's unusual is that he's been from that young age with them for so long and suddenly

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drowning was also a factor in his death . police were called to his death. police were called to the sitcom star's home in la in october, where he was found unresponsive in his pool. he died at the age of 54. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to ellie and peter. for. >> thanks so much. right now, do stay with us today because coming up later on the show, we're going to be joined by a 90s pop legend. and no, it's not you, pete. actually, who's better looking? you have got you've got some competition. um, let's take a little look to and i'm thinking about your love. >> if you need someone to care, i. i'll be there. you should know i'll never change. cause i'm thinking about your love

tonight. yeah >> thinking about my. you're singing it now. so earlier today , guys, singing it now. so earlier today , guys, i was singing it to you because you were going. what song was it? what song was it? and you haven't stopped singing it? >> no, it's very, very catchy. >> no, it's very, very catchy. >> but you're gonna sing it to him. >> i think i might, you know, we'll see how we go. stay tuned and you'll find out. >> yeah. anyway kenny thomas will be joining us live in the studio. very excited about that. such don't go such a great guy. don't go anywhere now. >> this is a big story. one of the stories in town. the only stories in town. actually, this morning, prince harry has won a huge of harry has won a huge part of his phone hacking case and substantial against substantial damages against the mirror substantial damages against the miryes, a court has ruled >> yes, a high court has ruled there was extensive phone hacking mirror group hacking by mirror group newspapers between 2006 and 2011. >> now the prince has been awarded just over £140,000 in damages for the distressed calls to prince harry from the published articles . published articles. >> joining us now to discuss this is royal expert and very good friend of mine, jennie bond. hi jenny. >> hello. hello >> hello. hello >> talking about something very

different this week to what we were talking about last week. but of course, you all know about this. now. the victory. it was victory for prince harry yesterday. yes he wasn't there in person. do you think he was watching it from his home? and how do you think he's feeling right now ? right now? >> well, right now i should think he's tucked up in bed, sleeping like a baby with his babies. probably and, yeah, feeling very vindictive , which feeling very vindictive, which he has been. this is a big, big triumph for him. you know, i think it's been very courageous of him. um, you know, i think he's shown he's really got cojones. you might say, to take this all the way to court. he wrote in his book that, you know, you know what he feels about at least about journalists, or at least tabloid journalists. he thinks they a mob of dweebs . they are a mob of dweebs. cronies cut price criminals and diagnosable sadists. cronies cut price criminals and diagnosable sadists . that's what diagnosable sadists. that's what he wrote in his book. that's one thing to write it in a book, but to take it to court and fight this battle for five years, i think, has been very courageous.

and i think it has revealed a lot about the culture of some of the tabloid press back then. and i was reporting alongside them. absolutely not. those tactics were not part of what i did or the bbc did, but but i worked alongside them and i used to be quite mystified about how they got these exclusive royal stories. you know, i kind of thought, well, i'm not much of a journalist, am i? um, but now we know how they got them. it was sometimes by illegal means. >> sorry, jenny, do you think it stems back from when he lost his mother? and he's been traumatised, and he's had this sort vengeance ever since . do sort of vengeance ever since. do you it stems back from you think it stems back from that ? that? >> um. i think that we have to take ourselves back to that time. you're quite right. pete and i, overnight have been thinking more about how awful it must have been for this young boy. almost 13. but just 12, when his mother died and we know how traumatic. obviously that was for him. and then in those

formative adolescent years, when he was trying to get his his life back together and his head together, to feel so suspicious of everyone around him because of everyone around him because of things that he was doing in his private life, the mistakes that every adolescent makes was front news everywhere, and front page news everywhere, and he began to be suspicious of everyone and everything of his friends, of his family, of every relationship . and he feels very relationship. and he feels very bitterly that it has. it did ruin several of his friendships and relationships, notably with chelsy davy, his long standing girlfriend. um, and i think it really, you know, it really mucked with his headspace and a lot of his psychological problems, i think, have come from that . from that. >> i mean, it's very clear, isn't it, that it's a very personal battle for prince harry, as you say, spoke about how his anxieties and also the impact on his relationships. but i was really quite struck by that statement yesterday outside court that was read by by his barrister, david sherborne . and barrister, david sherborne. and in it he describes kind of taking on the tabloids as

slaying a dragon. but he also says that this is just the start, doesn't he? talks talks to the metropolitan police . he to the metropolitan police. he appeals to them directly and says that they should investigate for criminal charges. so my question to you, jenny, is where do you think prince harry wants to take this? we know about the other cases with the other tabloids. he's obviously feel spurred obviously going to feel spurred on to do that. but do you think he wants to see people in jail over this ? over this? >> oh, i think he very much like to see people in jail to think back. you know, people were in jail. and one of the reporters i used to work of the used to work alongside of the news the world, um, clive news of the world, um, clive goodman, was jailed for, um, goodman, he was jailed for, um, using illegal methods to obtain information from the royal household . so it's happened. but household. so it's happened. but andy coulson was also jailed. um, and i think. yeah, harry feels that's exactly what he would like to happen. notably probably to piers morgan, who obviously denies any wrongdoing in this. um but i think the kitchen is getting quite hot, actually, for people like piers

and some of the executives who the judge said executives of the mirror group are at least two. the judge deemed that they had known and they had turned a blind eye to it. there's a lot of questions still to be answered. and of course, harry still got court cases going on against the mail and the sun . against the mail and the sun. and he must be feeling, you know, pretty confident about those now , much, um, being on those now, much, um, being on the show . the show. >> and lovely seeing you. i must get your number. jenny. yes, i have to get her number because we know each other, but we don't actually get. >> talk to each >> you should talk to each other, have a chat the phone. other, have a chat on the phone. thank you so much, jenny. and just very important say as just very important to say as well, that piers morgan make well, that piers morgan did make a yesterday and said a statement yesterday and said that a phone that he had never hacked a phone or to hack a or never told anybody to hack a phone either. so just very important that do you important to say that do you want welcome our panel this want to welcome our panel this morning? we've got sandhu, morning? we've got tommy sandhu, the with us this the comedian, with us this morning, joanna jarjue, who morning, and joanna jarjue, who is the apprentice runner morning, and joanna jarjue, who is tand apprentice runner morning, and joanna jarjue, who is tand aapprentice runner morning, and joanna jarjue, who is tand a political; runner up and now a political commentator, very point commentator, very good point out, commentator, very good point out we just commentator, very good point outwe just did a story on phone >> we just did a story on phone

hacking and he went, jenny, i must get your number. um, jenny's yeah, why? why jenny's going, yeah, why? why does my want from me? does he want my want from me? what does he want see? yeah, what does he want to see? yeah, exactly. listen in to exactly. i want to listen in to jenny's calls. jenny's phone calls. >> wasn't the right >> probably wasn't the right thing say at that point. thing to say at that point. >> on phone calls. is that. yeah, exactly. like i must get your number. >> brain very, very strange. >> it's a beautiful brain. it's a beautiful brain in strange ways. >> so what did you guys make of prince harry's victory yesterday day? some people saying not day? some people saying it's not actually out actually a victory. only 15 out of cases were found of the 33 came. cases were found to be as a result of phone hacking and illegal means. and £140,000 he was going £140,000 damages. he was going for what do you think, joanna? >>i joanna? >> i think that prince harry was probably the principal. you know, had one, just one. know, if he'd had one, just one. he would just thought, you he would have just thought, you know i've actually proved know what? i've actually proved a point because long time a point because for a long time people been that people have been saying that he doesn't a that he was doesn't have a case, that he was paranoid things like that. paranoid and things like that. so think even just for so i think even just for himself, think he'll be himself, i think he'll be able to sleep a little bit better tonight in the future. and tonight and in the future. and i think for the other cases as well, going well, that he's probably going to you know, he's

to go with, you know, he's probably to go harder, probably going to go harder, like said. and this is just like you said. and this is just going to spur him on even more. and it's a good thing and i think it's a good thing for know, he's probably for him. you know, he's probably doing in the name his doing it in the name of his mother or things that she mother or the things that she went through. and it's sad. and i just sometimes, you i just think sometimes, you know, should have a bit of know, we should have a bit of empathy, you know, for everything gone everything that he's gone through, just kind through, rather than just kind of say, well, you know, because really, up for really, he didn't sign up for this. but other people who are famous, well, it famous, you could say, well, it comes the territory. so comes with the territory. so feel for him. feel bad for him. >> i mean, you think it's >> i mean, do you think it's caused friction between him caused more friction between him and you think and his family, or do you think that this is almost like them going, okay, well, you know, he's he's won he's done something. he's won something saying he something that he was saying he was going to win. where do you think with now? think he stands with them now? i mean, think obviously the mean, i think obviously the relationship was already fractured they fractured anyway and they were kind rumours that they'd said kind of rumours that they'd said to know, it's basically to him, you know, it's basically a mission if you a suicide mission if you if you go this and it's a bit go with this and it's a bit embarrassing to be honest. >> you know, from, from their point of view because if point of view because really, if he'd then they could he'd have lost then they could have you. so, have said, well, told you. so, you especially from his have said, well, told you. so, you um, especially from his have said, well, told you. so, you um, but)ecially from his have said, well, told you. so, you um, but it:ially from his have said, well, told you. so, you um, but it doesn't»m his have said, well, told you. so,

you um, but it doesn't helps dad. um, but it doesn't help relationships, because relationships, does it? because he's to carry on he's just going to carry on doing this and it's sad because we forget as well as, don't we, that family at the end of that it's a family at the end of the day. so me, what do you the day. so tell me, what do you think legal battles when they go on years like this, they're exhausting. >> they have a whole toll on families. um, you've to it. families. um, you've got to it. the are very good the lawyers are very good and lots little detail and lots of little detail and twisting turning twisting things and turning things things things and snowballing things into other things. so this won't feel like a win. i actually disagree, i think, um, i think he'll be like, you get numb after if you've been through this for years and fighting your case and fighting for your integrity fighting for your integrity and fighting for your voice, don't think you come voice, i don't think you come away 140, 140 away and go, yayi 140, 140 grand. i know it's a lot of money. of course, it's a lot of money. of course, it's a lot of money that in your bank money that landed in your bank account, maybe to not prince account, but maybe to not prince harry, prince harry, and harry, not to prince harry, and also, probably go also, it probably doesn't go towards of towards years, years of sleepless of of sleepless nights of worry, of pressure, like your pressure, of feeling like your privacy invaded, of all privacy has been invaded, of all that your life being that of your private life being shared. no amount of shared. there's no amount of money we would would get money that we would we would get for kind of i mean, that for that kind of i mean, that kind of exposure.

>> the thing is. right. you know, maybe i'm just putting know, and maybe i'm just putting it there, you've got to it out there, but you've got to also at the side that also look at the other side that there's lot journalists there's a lot of journalists that and a lot that are really nice and a lot of media that are nice. and when you want, you know, when you want them, they can be very kind to so you know, i, i don't to you. so you know, i, i don't think that it should be made out to you. so you know, i, i don't thiniall,it it should be made out to you. so you know, i, i don't thiniall, all should be made out to you. so you know, i, i don't thiniall, all mediai be made out to you. so you know, i, i don't thiniall, all media ise made out to you. so you know, i, i don't thiniall, all media is badade out that all, all media is bad because don't think it is no, because i don't think it is no, but that's really amazing coming from you, who hope you don't from you, who i hope you don't mind mentioning had mind me mentioning you have had your the past, your phone hacked in the past, haven't won i a case haven't you? yeah, won i a case years ago on this. obviously not as profile as harry, but as high profile as harry, but yeah, and is. you know, you yeah, and it is. you know, you feel bit raid at the feel a bit bitter raid at the time, but on my side of it, i look at all the wonderful things that have happened in the media and i and i kind of do it that way. but harry's on a mission. it's different thing, it's a very different thing, what he's going through and did you as though your you did you feel as though your privacy had been really invaded? >> affect you? >> does it really affect you? >> does it really affect you? >> remember thinking >> i remember thinking something, but then also thinking, but hang on a second, i've put myself there in the i've put myself out there in the pubuc i've put myself out there in the public i'm what you were public and i'm what you were saying, and asking for

saying, and i'm asking for privacy. know, little privacy. you know, it's a little bit with the territory. be bit comes with the territory. be very different for prince harry because i mentioned before, because like i mentioned before, this , this may be spurred on this, this may be spurred on from happened years ago from what happened years ago with his mother. it might be a much thing . with his mother. it might be a much thing. um, but with his mother. it might be a much thing . um, but yeah, much deeper thing. um, but yeah, the time you do, you feel a bit like what now? what else have they heard? what's going on? >> do you know what? what's probably lit the fire as well for him is obviously everything that has gone through . i that meghan has gone through. i think that he was already annoyed. it's one of those things, isn't it? you get lot annoyed. it's one of those thi|you isn't it? you get lot annoyed. it's one of those thi|you know, :? you get lot annoyed. it's one of those thi|you know, i you get lot annoyed. it's one of those thi|you know, i guessat lot annoyed. it's one of those thi|you know, i guess family men of, you know, i guess family men that are saying, you know, that would to me, but would say, do it to me, but don't do it to the people that i love. you know? and i think he's got that kind of protective thing now he's thing now, now that he's a father and a husband. and it would have been just much would have been just so much more he probably more difficult, and he probably would got would have felt like he's got a support system now. >> yeah. but now i think those other legal cases, which would i can imagine them being dropped or settled very quickly, i think with win like this, it's with with a win like this, it's set to precedent. precedent is

everything the legal everything in kind of the legal world. if they've kind go, world. so if they've kind of go, oh, he's just won there. do you really down this really want to go down this lengthy, expensive, exhausting process couple process to fight another couple of papers? if i of cases with other papers? if i were other papers, i'd be were those other papers, i'd be saying, let's tie this up, let's settle it. just, you know, privacy disclosure, no non—disclosure of non—disclosure agreement kind of thing, on. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, on. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, we'll on. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, we'll have on. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, we'll have to on. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, we'll have to waitl. non—disclosure agreement kind of thirwell, we'll have to wait and >> well, we'll have to wait and see. believe there's four see. i believe there's four other that prince is other cases that prince harry is taking against tabloids at taking out against tabloids at the moment. do let us know what you story. you make of that story. vaiews@gbnews.uk we do vaiews@gbnews.uk com and we do just through one just have time to go through one quick this is a potential quick story. this is a potential ban on social media for under 16 seconds. we about seconds. what do we think about this should teenagers be this should should teenagers be banned media. how banned from social media. how old are your kids? >> i've got year old. 18, >> i've got an 18 year old. 18, 60? 18? yep nine >> i've got an 18 year old. 18, 60?18? yep nine and seven. okay. and i think that i'm not actually, it's not about what i think this is about what you think. you tell me first, and then i'm going to tell you what i because i've got, i've got an 11 and a seven year old, um, and yesterday fresh like he's like he's on point. >> the seven year old, he just i looked around on the phone and

the old had put snapchat the 11 year old had put snapchat on for filters and i went. on for the filters and i went. and because it was the news, and because it was in the news, i you get that? on i said, how'd you get that? on he goes, don't worry, dad. i just said i was 24. i was like, all right, okay, scary, scary. now i say you got to now what i will say you got to know your kids, suppose. and know your kids, i suppose. and my two boys, they want it for the not the filters. they're not chatting anyone. they have no chatting to anyone. they have no interest chatting people interest in chatting to people online. don't. don't online. they don't. they don't even a messaging service on even use a messaging service on their devices. is their own phones or devices. is it's filters, pictures, it's gaming filters, pictures, fun of stuff. so fun kiddie sort of stuff. so this interesting. i think this is interesting. i think because i think the under 16 ban on tiktok and instagram and facebook's and everything else , facebook's and everything else, um, i think it should be the other way around. this is my theory. don't ban under 16. ban over they're the they're the over 16. they're the they're the weirdos. the weirdos are the old men. why are you ban the point? the kids love the filters . yeah. the kids love the filters. yeah. and the gaming. so i'm like, ban the dirty old men. don't ban the kids . kids. >> well, the other thing is too, that, of course you can have you can them all. you like, but can ban them all. you like, but they're going to go they're just going to go to school and with their

school and do it with their friends. this is the thing, friends. and this is the thing, we had this conversation with people were saying, people where we were saying, it's about stopping them it's not about stopping them going about having going on, it's about having measures sites to measures on those, uh, sites to prevent you know, prevent children, you know, being confronted with something dangerous. being confronted with something dange what being confronted with something dangewhat are thoughts being confronted with something dange what are thoughts on there, what are your thoughts on that? i'm not a parent, that? i well, i'm not a parent, so i don't know where the responsibility should lie. >> know whether >> i don't know whether it should and as should be on the parents. and as you say, it's very difficult to police that, especially when they're it's very they're at school. it's very difficult. be on difficult. or should it be on social companies? i don't social media companies? i don't know where the responsibility falls. mean, obviously falls. i mean, you obviously think social media. >> media. anyway, >> i think social media. anyway, i'm too excited. i'm getting too excited. >> have opinion at >> you will have an opinion at home. afraid we are at a home. i'm afraid we are at a time. tommy but i love your enthusiasm. got a lot more enthusiasm. we've got a lot more to come from. want to say? to come from. you want to say? yeah tommy and johanna do stay with going to be here with us. you're going to be here with us. you're going to be here with throughout show to with us throughout the show to discuss the top stories. discuss all of the top stories. >> yeah. coming we'll be >> yeah. coming up, we'll be speaking whisperer. speaking to the lime whisperer. this way. this guy's great, by the way. the tamed the lions. the man who tamed the lions. >> do you call him earlier? >> what do you call him earlier? the tiger king. the britain's tiger king. britain's tiger king? yeah. you won't to that. won't want to miss that. >> then don't want him to go

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view, i guess. yeah definitely do keep those views coming in. >> gbviews@gbnews.com about any of the stories that we're talking about today. >> now, the lion whisperer , >> now, the lion whisperer, britain's tiger king, a man who tames lions, animal conservator , tames lions, animal conservator, conservationist reece oliver, uh, really nice guys. dedicated his life to animals, rescuing hundreds of them, including hons. hundreds of them, including lions . and he's here. lions. and he's here. >> yeah , well, he first rescued >> yeah, well, he first rescued two african lions from being euthanized after an eastern european circus was shut down. >> yeah, reece works closely with various conservation projects to rewild animals, preserve endangered species and to stop the illegal animal trade. >> he's a busy man, and we're delighted to be joined by the very man himself, reece oliver. very good morning to you, reece. really good to see you. this morning. mean, you're morning. i mean, you're incredible. many of our incredible. so many of our viewers are going to absolutely love because are animal love you because we are animal lovers gb news. um, how lovers here on gb news. um, how did you start ? you rescued these did you start? you rescued these two african lions from the circus . circus. >> yeah. so i got the heads up that this circus was being

closed so i got right closed down, so i got the right permits, jumped in my truck, drove straight to the czech republic, basically republic, and was basically feeding , basically republic, and was basically feeding, basically had to feed because were so young. because they were so young. i had to feed them every two hours and stop every two hours going to the service station and, uh, sterilise it sterilise the bottle, fill it with then with milk, then feed them, then clean then every two clean them, and then every two hours the way it took hours all the way back, it took like two days to get like nearly two days to get home. so yeah, it was quite surreal experience. what made you do it? surreal experience. what made youyeah, do it? surreal experience. what made youyeah, i'veo it? surreal experience. what made youyeah, i've always had a love >> yeah, i've always had a love of animals. >> i always remember when i think was written in the think it was written in the stars.i think it was written in the stars. i used to be a showjumper and six years old, and when i was six years old, i remember i said to my school teacher, i had a giraffe at home, and were they home, and they were like, they went to my mum and they laughed and sort of said, oh, you know, he's lying. and he's only lying. and then and then then when it all then actually then when it all came got animals. came out, i got these animals. even my teacher wrote to even my school teacher wrote to me 20 years later and says, i remember the time where you told me that you giraffe at me that you had a giraffe at home. maybe it was just home. so maybe it was just written the written in my written in the stars my dreams. for that to happen. >> yeah, well, obviously you're

a but do you learn a natural, but how do you learn how to for these animals how to care for these animals like lions? for like the baby lions? for example? something example? is that just something you're the job or it you're learning on the job or it comes to you naturally, or do you it really hard work? >> i think it's very hard work. it's it's a life commitment. it's a it's a life commitment. it's a it's a life commitment. it's a it's a life commitment. it's a passion. can't ever it's a passion. you can't ever rest. learn as you rest. i think you learn as you go along. i'm i've done showjumping high level showjumping at a very high level and um, think and i believe that, um, i think i you when i believe that, you know, when that do that standard that when you do that standard of with animals, can of care with animals, you can passit of care with animals, you can pass it on through types pass it on through all types of animals. learning animals. and it's a learning curve always. >> got a massive >> so you've got a massive project coming up that i want to ask but there are ask you about, but there are people you know, people that say, you know, animals be free and animals should be free and there's lot talk about, you there's a lot of talk about, you know, animals not in know, animals should not be in captivity. are doing captivity. what are you doing different? do is different? i think what we do is we my enclosures are much we all my enclosures are much more minimum. we all my enclosures are much mo i minimum. we all my enclosures are much mo i don't minimum. we all my enclosures are much mo i don't believe imum. we all my enclosures are much moi don't believe any�*n. we all my enclosures are much moi don't believe any animal >> i don't believe any animal should be captivity. should be in captivity. i believe the there isn't believe the only there isn't a cage any animal. cage big enough for any animal. but human but unfortunately, human beings are is are the reason that that is there. i would like to there. and what i would like to do, , you we're do, we're, you know, we're everything do try to be everything we do is try to be sustainable. um, and eventually, if i before if my life goal is if i before i die, there could be even half the amount of animals in captivity, then that would be i

would have achieved my life goal >> that's an incredible aim. >> that's an incredible aim. >> we're just seeing some incredible of you >> we're just seeing some in> we're just seeing some in> we're just seeing some in> um, we've got quite a lot. we've got a couple of hundred, um, range from otters to pumas to lions, lemurs, tapirs , to lions, lemurs, tapirs, kangaroos, wallabies. so, yeah, loads of different. >> you got kangaroos? >> you got kangaroos? >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> we were just saying >> well, we were just saying before no before about there were no koalas, got kangaroos koalas, but you've got kangaroos . happy now. >> he's happy now. >> he's happy now. >> and so tell us about this >> um, and so tell us about this project because this is a, this is a lot of investment to get this happening . yeah. this happening. yeah. >> it's been a dream of mine. i wanted to basically the way i'm doing i need i need to doing it now, i need i need to be able to bring finances in, to be able to bring finances in, to be able to help more animals and create so create better facilities. so we're basically create we're going to basically create a location where people a uk stay location where people can come and stay and look at the animals the lodges. the animals in the lodges. it's going carbon going to be fully carbon negative site, and

negative, sustainable site, and we're an education we're going to have an education and therapy centre because we believe important to teach and therapy centre because we belipeople important to teach and therapy centre because we belipeople of|portant to teach and therapy centre because we belipeople of tomorrow» teach and therapy centre because we belipeople of tomorrow about the people of tomorrow about sustainability, conservation and basically how what animals are here for and what they've been here for and what they've been here for. so and also it helps with people with disabilities and, and sort of learning disabilities because it's quite therapeutic. animals are therapeutic. animals are therapeutic . and they've proven therapeutic. and they've proven it who been it with people who who have been to sort of to my place, who have sort of those unfortunate disabilities and know, they leave and they, you know, they leave a much with a much much positive with a much positive energy they leave. positive energy when they leave. >> that is an incredible >> i mean, that is an incredible mission, because mission, isn't it? because education much to do with education is so much to do with with preserving animals and keeping them safe ? yeah, 100. keeping them safe? yeah, 100. >> it's not taught enough in schools. and think if people schools. and i think if people even think a little bit more about their green footprint and about their green footprint and about the about sustainability and the animals will be able to thrive in their home environment a lot easier , and what do they get to easier, and what do they get to do when they're there? >> you know, even >> apart from, you know, even just feeding? just to watch the feeding? >> a boy came. he >> i had a young boy came. he was four years old. he's got a brain tumour. going to die. brain tumour. he's going to die.

he's unfortunately, he's blind. um, unfortunately, he's not going to survive. um, he's not going to survive. um, he the. or if you could see the glow that when he left the glow that was inside him was just phenomenal. you know? phenomenal. he even see phenomenal. he can't even see them just the being the them. but just the being the presence him, it's presence of near near him, it's just incredible thing to see. just an incredible thing to see. and actually it, and until you actually see it, it's but you it's very hard to know. but you know, we want to do that and we don't to charge people for don't want to charge people for that. we to be able to all that. we want to be able to all our education to be our education is going to be funded facility, because funded by the facility, because i very important for i think it's very important for that happen. that to happen. >> and when will it open? the >> and when will it be open? the new facility, hoping we're new facility, i'm hoping we're just final just going through the final planning the end of 2024 >> i'm hoping at the end of 2024 or middle of 2020, end of 24 will open. will be open. >> well, luck with the >> well, best of luck with the new project. sounds absolutely amazing brilliant that new project. sounds absolutely amé dog brilliant that new project. sounds absolutely amé dog animals. nt that new project. sounds absolutely amédog animals. nt amazing you do on animals. just amazing just they they do for us. you do on animals. just amazing just you hey they do for us. you do on animals. just amazing just you sol they do for us. you do on animals. just amazing just you so much do for us. you do on animals. just amazing just you so much rhys.' us. you do on animals. just amazing just you so much rhys. now how thank you so much rhys. now how would like to win £10,000 would you like to win £10,000 cash? brand new tech and shopping vouchers . yes, please. shopping vouchers. yes, please. that'd be nice. how do we do it? >> well, you could be the winner of our very first great british giveaway. the details giveaway. here's all the details on those on how you can make those prizes. yours >> it's the great british

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mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> welcome back to saturday morning live with ellie and i. now for most of us, christmas time is spent enjoying the festivities, eating mince pies and being among family. festivities, eating mince pies and being among family . but and being among family. but every year there will be those around us and around you who are struggling with loss and bereavement . bereavement. >> yes, several families may be facing their last christmas with a loved one or the first. without them, it would be really, really difficult year for them. we're asking who for them. so we're asking who and where do you turn to for support ? support? >> well, the team at marie curie, the uk's leading end of life charity, will be giving up their christmases to make sure that who seeks help that anyone who seeks help through their support line will have a friendly voice speak have a friendly voice to speak to on the other end. >> oh, it's so important, >> oh, it's just so important, isn't it? well, joining us now isn't it? well, joining us now is associate director at is the associate director at marie curie, jonathan clemmow. very this very good to see you this morning, so morning, jonathan. thank you so much for your company and this helpline just sounds absolutely fantastic because as we just mentioned there, christmas is such a difficult time of year.

isn't it? for those of us who've lost a loved one or are facing last christmas with a loved one, yes , i mean the marie curie team yes, i mean the marie curie team see a significant increase in the number of people calling us for emotional support at this time of year. >> it goes about 60. and >> it goes up by about 60. and you know that makes sense. you know, christmas is a celebration for many of us. but we associate it with family with loved ones. it can be a reminder of fond memories, but also of people we've lost who have died recently. um, and often the rituals associated with christmas can can be a reminder. and also, if you're, you're caring for a loved one, you know, we put quite a lot of pressure on ourselves at christmas. if you're trying to juggle christmas. if you're trying to juggle caring for someone who's dying alongside the dying alongside juggling the kids , trying sure it's kids, trying to make sure it's a special get presents in special time, get presents in that sometimes be that can sometimes be overwhelming as well. so again , overwhelming as well. so again, we urge people to kind of call the marie curie support line if they need extra help. around this . this time. >> yeah, so important. and >> yeah, it's so important. and it's so good for families to

have that, um, because it is a very difficult time , um, for so very difficult time, um, for so many families. i you know, just sorry to bring this up, but i lost my brother on this day 11 years ago. and i remember wanting to talk to someone about it and didn't quite actually know, you know , who to talk to. know, you know, who to talk to. and you become insular, and you just you just don't know to how how to express your feelings. and i got confused with, with anxiety and all sorts of things. and i was just going through a mourning process. it's mourning process. so it's really, really nice know that really, really nice to know that this, this exists. this, this, that this exists. >> yeah. and obviously the marie curie support line is there to talk through. you know, how people are feeling. but i think the important thing to say is that there's no right way to feel, you know, people are feel, you know, some people are sad, some people are angry. some people at all. the people feel nothing at all. the really kind of thing really kind of key thing to understand you are understand is, is what you are feeling getting in the way of what you want to kind of and what you want to kind of do. and if it's really important if it is, it's really important that you you get support. and marie curie is here to provide

that you you get support. and mari support.; here to provide that support. >> do think we've >> jonathan, do you think we've got better people at got better as a people at talking about grief and understanding grief? because, i mean, pete, you're talking there about 11 years ago and not knowing to for support. knowing where to go for support. i got wonderful i mean, now got the wonderful work curie and the work of marie curie and the helpline. jonathan, do you helpline. but jonathan, do you think we are getting better? and with supports such as yourselves , will to do so? , as we will continue to do so? >> so i think we're definitely getting better. um, talking not only about grief and bereavement , but a whole range of mental health issues. uh, i know in some of the research we kind of do , um, lots of people sort of do, um, lots of people sort of say to us that they think we should be talking more about death, dying and bereavement. and it's that whole process that's important. but yet that's really important. but yet when we people, have they when we ask people, have they had conversations with had important conversations with loved ones about their wishes? a lot of then say they lot of people then say they haven't. really haven't. so it's really important time it's important that at this time it's not only, um, that people who are in need of support, you know, talk to us, access other services to get that support. but we also take the opportunity to check with loved ones,

to check in with our loved ones, ask them about how they're feeling, start to talk feeling, but also start to talk to about, um, their wishes to them about, um, their wishes at end of life and how we can best prepare for that people best prepare for that as people important in lives. important in their lives. brilliant >> and what's your message to someone who's lost someone now, or is about to lose someone . in? or is about to lose someone. in? >> i think firstly, again , you >> i think firstly, again, you know, there's no right way to feel , um, if know, there's no right way to feel, um, if it's helpful , talk feel, um, if it's helpful, talk to people, call our phone number, talk to friends and family . um, number, talk to friends and family. um, that can number, talk to friends and family . um, that can help. number, talk to friends and family. um, that can help. um thinking about, um, special places, rituals that help you remember that loved one or make special memories that loved one are all important things to kind of be doing. um, but again, it's really, really important if you're not feeling, you're coping, if you're feeling that caring that individual or caring for that individual or the memory of the death of that loved one is getting in the way of what you want to do in life, that you seek support, um, from friends, from families, from services like marie curie .

services like marie curie. >> really, really good advice. thank you. so much, jonathan clemmow. associate clemmow. he's the associate director at curie. and director at marie curie. and what important work that you do. thank you so much, jonathan. and if you have lost a loved one and you are about to experience a christmas without them, we are sending you so much love and our thoughts, of course, are with you. really you. it's really, really difficult time, isn't it, for lots people . now on theme lots of people. now on the theme of christmas picture it's of christmas, picture this it's christmas you've opened of christmas, picture this it's chrispresents, you've opened of christmas, picture this it's chrispresents, you've�* opened of christmas, picture this it's chrispresents, you've eatenzd of christmas, picture this it's chrispresents, you've eaten too your presents, you've eaten too many blankets, many pigs in blankets, and you're sat on the sofa with a nice glass of fierce sounds perfect, doesn't it? >> what could make the day >> but what could make the day even better? i know a white christmas, right? >> a white christmas, yes. well, the last time we saw an actual white christmas, would you believe, 13 years ago? really? yeah. 13. long time ago . so what yeah. 13. long time ago. so what are the chances of it happening again this year? >> well, the sounds of it. none now joined by legendary weatherman john kettley . uh, weatherman john kettley. uh, john, will we finally be having a white christmas? you look very

festive . festive. >> well, thank you very much, peter. i'm feeling quite festive already. and we're still nine days away. it's unbelievable , days away. it's unbelievable, isn't it? nine days. you know, we talk about a week. is a long time in politics. nine days is an eternity when it comes to my world. because the weather is all over the place. quite honestly, moment we've honestly, at the moment we've seen very , um, mild seen some very, um, mild conditions . it seems, from conditions. it seems, from colder weather in the past few days and just 12 months ago, you know, we were actually just coming cold coming out of a very cold december december . december cold snap. in december. we had some pretty heavy snow around it's not around this time. so it's not unprecedented snowfall in unprecedented to get snowfall in december. just that it's so december. it's just that it's so rare on the big day itself. and this year is no different because looking at my charts, we've got all sorts of things going the next nine days. going on in the next nine days. the is really for the general trend is really for a green christmas rather than a white one, but i'm not going to just stop with that because everything's in the air, everything's up in the air, literally. and it does look as though these different computer models, use are at models, which i use are at variance the whole week through. so we're going to see a lot of

mild winds , strong winds, but mild winds, strong winds, but temperatures double figures temperatures in double figures in many southern and western parts now and parts of the uk. every now and again, though across the northeast we're northeast of britain. so we're looking at scotland into looking mainly at scotland into north—east england. these north—east england. we get these colder trying to colder arctic winds trying to come south now christmas eve, for example , is the big question for example, is the big question mark on christmas eve. now some places could see some heavy snow showers, many other places in the south and west. as i say, hang onto this milder weather. now of course that means that there could be snow on the ground on christmas day some ground on christmas day in some northeastern that northeastern areas, but that doesn't necessarily give you a white if you're white christmas. if you're thinking money on, thinking about putting money on, and i wouldn't encourage that. of course. but if you're putting money on a white christmas , then money on a white christmas, then just because it snowed the day before, doesn't mean to say before, it doesn't mean to say that christmas. but that is a white christmas. but of as you said, peter, of course, as you said, peter, it does look beautiful you it does look beautiful when you look that would look out the window. that would count john. count for me, john. >> be happy with that. if >> i'd be happy with that. if there's it's there's snow on the ground, it's a to me. so a white christmas to me. so that's message. we've that's a great message. we've got glimmer hope. we do. got a glimmer of hope. we do. >> just to make it clear,

>> and just to make it clear, you're not bet on it, but you're not saying bet on it, but if were going to bet on it, if you were going to bet on it, bet christmas your point. >> @! you so t you so much, john. >> thank you so much, john. thank you. that's john kettley there, the legendary weather presenter basically presenter who's basically saying hold happen, hold out hope could happen, especially if you're in the nonh especially if you're in the north around 10 north east now. around 10 million eaten in the million turkeys are eaten in the uk every year, with 25% of brits buying our own christmas birds months in advance to prepare for the big day . the big day. >> now, turkeys have been a staple of the uk festive feast for nearly 500 years after king henry the eighth popularised eating turkey for christmas dinner. >> well, our reporter anna riley visited a turkey farm in east yorkshire to see how they are faring after bird flu wiped out more than half a million wild birds this time last year. >> john holtby has farmed turkeys in yorkshire for over 20 years, but last year the industry was in crisis when over half a million turkeys had to be culled or died due to bird flu . culled or died due to bird flu. this christmas, john and other turkey farmers up and down the

country are hoping for a better festive season. >> people got rather spooked by by bird flu and stopped buying, so the orders were very slow . so the orders were very slow. they nearly caught up towards the end . we didn't get bird flu, the end. we didn't get bird flu, but we had bird flu nearby this yeah but we had bird flu nearby this year. there are recent cases of bird flu so we are worried about it as we run towards christmas. >> free range turkeys do cost more, but with this comes a better quality of meat. most people think of christmas and think of a turkey, so we're trying to provide the best possible turkey for them to make their christmas dinner. >> the most important dinner of the it's like anything you the year. it's like anything you sort you get what you sort of pay, you get what you pay sort of pay, you get what you pay here. pay for here. >> the turkeys are reared from day old chicks . day old chicks. >> we them under a heat >> we have them under a heat lamp from there they lamp in a stable from there they then get brought out here when they're when they're about a month or two old, and then they're brought to maturity. so these really the only birds these are really the only birds that actually are reared to maturity, which what gives maturity, which is what gives them as well, them the flavour as well, because they have natural fats

that allowed to develop this that are allowed to develop this christmas . christmas. >> the nfu want people to buy british. >> i encourage people to buy the best turkey that they can afford. now that might be from their local farm or their local butcher. it might be from a supermarket, it might even be a frozen product. buy the best you can afford. it's, um, it's all about creating memories at christmas , and i don't think christmas, and i don't think anybody sits back from the table and goodness me, that and says, goodness me, that turkey was cheap. but they might say goodness turkey say, goodness me, that turkey was no matter how good say, goodness me, that turkey wasturkey no matter how good say, goodness me, that turkey wasturkey , no matter how good say, goodness me, that turkey wasturkey , some matter how good say, goodness me, that turkey wasturkey , some inatter how good say, goodness me, that turkey wasturkey , some in yorkshire good the turkey, some in yorkshire won't be following tradition. >> actually vegetarian, so >> i'm actually vegetarian, so i'll having of nut i'll be having some sort of nut roast with the corn and various other bits as well. but yeah, no turkey for me. >> my mum buys three >> it's my mum that buys three birds so just birds roast, so it's just something we've been brought up with bird roast with having free bird roast instead of turkey. >> turkey got a good >> turkey probably got a good option. get option. someone to get you started. mashed potatoes. started. um. mashed potatoes. that's peas, that's a good one. a bit peas, carrots, a bit of gravy. are you feeling a bit daring? >> i love beef and there's no better than beef to be honest. >> i'll have for christmas

prawns. >> and with the leftovers of the christmas turkey , families are christmas turkey, families are bound to be gobbling it into the new year . bound to be gobbling it into the new year. anna riley gb news says. see i know someone that definitely will not be having that turkey this year. >> who? a vegan? yeah it's not even it was that i knew that was going to die. >> they won't be and there might be some plant based vegetarians. >> i'll be having the nut roast. let's bring in tommy sandhu and joanna jarjue. really good to see you both this morning on our panel see you both this morning on our panel. have turkey for panel. do you have turkey for christmas? have something else. >> i have 20 people over >> i have about 20 people over on day. my wife's on christmas day. my wife's family, sister's family, my family, sister's husbands. so about three husbands. so we do about three different, and also a different, uh, meats and also a veggie pie. and i do all the cooking. i'm up at 6 am. because you can. there you go. thank you pete, i appreciate that. loving that. but you know what, love it. leave me alone. what, i love it. leave me alone. the do. do a turkey the turkey i do. we do a turkey crown. and i now that crown. um, and i now brine that for couple of days before for a couple of days before because super because that goes super succulent. do like

because that goes super succuisort do like because that goes super succuisort of do like because that goes super succuisort of red do like because that goes super succuisort of red meat, do like because that goes super succuisort of red meat, eitherke some sort of red meat, either a beef or a lamb. um, the ham has to be done because the ham you need the sandwich is need for the turkey sandwich is afterwards. um, and then afterwards. um hum. um, and then also veggie pie and all the also a veggie pie and all the potatoes do you a potatoes do you get a bit stressed that? i stressed with all of that? no, i love it. leave alone. i'm love it. leave me alone. i'm a control freak. um, just. i don't have talk anyone. it's the have to talk to anyone. it's the only time you can justify drinking prosecco a.m. drinking prosecco at 6:30 am. yeah, yeah, you that bit. >> yeah, bit. » yeah, >> yeah, i'm exactly the same. >> yeah, i'm exactly the same. >> the. the person in my >> i'm the. i'm the person in my house that does the christmas cooking well, i don't cooking as well, but i don't know compete that. know how to compete with that. you're ham this and you're like ham and this and this. a chicken, a chicken, this. i do a chicken, a chicken, a normal roast. you've got to have that. the pigs in have all of that. the pigs in blankets stuff like that. blankets and stuff like that. >> for >> but why do you go for a chicken not turkey? chicken and not turkey? >> turkeys dry. i feel >> because turkeys dry. i feel like gonna for like people are gonna come for me media, be like, me on social media, be like, don't come for turkeys. turkeys are mates, but turkey dry . are mates, but turkey is dry. >> i'm you, it. >> i'm with you, joanna on it. i'm you. i'm with you. >> it's actually a beautiful place. >> i've. ijust just think >> i've. i just i just think it's it's a very dry it's really dry. it's a very dry chicken sorry. chicken to me. sorry. >> i blame your chefs. then i'm sorry if you've got to up your turkey game, maybe i'm cooking it wrong. >> you are. yeah, i like, i like

a nice beef joint. >> yeah. stunning. yeah. can't go what about you? go wrong. what about you? >> chicken. i >> no, i prefer chicken. if i was really to for it. was really going to go for it. because. it's more because. just because it's more tenden because. just because it's more tender. you're tender. but i think you're right. it's it's cooked. right. it's how it's cooked. >> see all the different >> and you see all the different methods. beer can methods. people put the beer can in it. put the turkey or in it. they put the turkey or the over beer can so the chicken over the beer can so the chicken over the beer can so the moisture goes in and you get super succulent turkeys that way. is good and way. brining it is also good and don't it. don't overcook it. >> all to take tips from >> we all need to take tips from tommy. i think. come on, come round tommy. >> come join in. >> just come and join in. there's there there's enough people there won't even notice. >> there's just enough time to touch on story. because touch on this story. because i know got an on know pete's got an opinion on this absences. have this school absences. they have been are been soaring because parents are taking of taking their children out of school time in order school during tum time in order to money on holiday. should to save money on holiday. should they pete, or should they do that, pete, or should they do that, pete, or should they doing that? they not be doing that? >> think the fining >> no, i don't think the fining works. i think it's, you know, i've got i've met parents that are saying i would rather pay i've got i've met parents that are fine1g i would rather pay i've got i've met parents that are fine because d rather pay i've got i've met parents that are fine because it'sither pay i've got i've met parents that are fine because it's cheaper the fine because it's cheaper then paying for the triple price in holiday time. why can they not turn around and say, well, okay, if you take your child out through tum time, they have to

complete this homework so they're up to date with everyone else because fining them, all it's going to do is cause friction between the parents and the school. and it's a difficult thing headmaster to do is thing for a headmaster to do is to sort of put that fine on a parent. it also. parent. and it also. >> yeah, it puts the kid in a, in as well, because now in a spot as well, because now that kid's reputation that kid's got reputation as being someone out being someone who comes out dunng being someone who comes out during termtime. i'm you. during termtime. i'm with you. so you know, you so my kids again, you know, you see the difference in the houday see the difference in the holiday like holiday prices and it's like triple half triple during the actual half time , breaks. you're time time, time breaks. you're like one week, a few days earlier. it's not like you even need take them out week, need to take them out a week, two weeks before smack bang in the time. talking the middle of time. i'm talking about, rather than going on houday or holiday on the saturday or sunday. know, when they sunday. you know, when they break the break up, you go on the wednesday, getting a five wednesday, you're getting a five day in it's like day week break in and it's like a the price. and a third of the price. and you know, real saving. know, and that's a real saving. and get why the same and i don't get why the same resort is maybe we should blame the people the holiday resort people because ones that, because they're the ones that, you pnces because they're the ones that, you prices for you know, up in the prices for that maybe they're making that time. maybe they're making it unaffordable for. >> and we we are in a cost >> and we are we are in a cost of living crisis. you can see why should the kids why families why should the kids

miss if you miss out on a holiday if you know they're too expensive know they're just too expensive to actual holiday to go during actual holiday time, families time, you can see why families would it happen. would want to make it happen. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, absolutely. and, um, when i first looking at this >> no, absolutely. and, um, when i actually, ing at this >> no, absolutely. and, um, when i actually, i|g at this >> no, absolutely. and, um, when i actually, i was this >> no, absolutely. and, um, when i actually, i was like, story, actually, i was like, yeah, know, we keep yeah, you know, we should keep the school and should the kids in school and we should be sensible. kind be kind of sensible. but i kind of if i'm saying that of feel as if i'm saying that because i have so because i don't have kids. so it's very for me to be it's very easy for me to be like, yeah, you know, you should find you know, keep find them kids, you know, keep them but actually them in education. but actually now listening to parents, i actually i to have actually think if i was to have actually think if i was to have a kid tomorrow, i would be fuming somebody to fuming if somebody was trying to find well my find me as well for taking my kid out school. a week before find me as well for taking my ki(something|ool. a week before find me as well for taking my ki(something like a week before find me as well for taking my ki(something like that.ak before find me as well for taking my ki(something like that. andzfore find me as well for taking my ki(something like that. and it»re or something like that. and it is holiday, operators as is the holiday, um, operators as well, like you said, that are really the people kind of really the people who kind of capitalise no , in that capitalise off no, in that parents can't pull their kids off out of school and just kind off out of school and just kind of when it's of willy nilly when it's difficult , though, isn't it, difficult, though, isn't it, because got a line because there's got to be a line because there's got to be a line because don't want kids because you don't want kids missing school and it missing too much school and it affecting education. missing too much school and it afereah, education. missing too much school and it afereah, but education. missing too much school and it afereah, but educa my. missing too much school and it afereah, but educa my kids. >> yeah, but i know my kids. i've got boys, milo and i've got two boys, milo and logan, they got about logan, 711. they they got about 20 minutes of concentration in them a day. that's it. so like

them a day. that's it. so like them coming out of school for a day, i'll be honest, they're not losing out on too much. all right. >> tommy, joanna. thank you so much. going back much. you're going to be back with you very much with us. thank you very much indeed. anywhere. we're indeed. don't go anywhere. we're going to be sitting with going to be sitting down with the absolute legend is the absolute legend that is kenny the absolute legend that is keryes. the absolute legend that is kerand forget send >> and don't forget to send us your about the stories your questions about the stories in week. in the news this week. >> like things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. good weather on. gb news. good morning, i'm alex deakin. >> this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. it's going to be a cloudy but mild weekend. most of us will be dry, but where it rains it's going to rain hard in northwest scotland it's going to turn very soggy already a bit damp the rain is going damp here, but the rain is going to more to get heavier and more persistent through rest of persistent through the rest of the day, and it will still be blustery, breezy blustery, quite breezy elsewhere, of elsewhere, but bar a bit of drizzle over the hills drizzle at times over the hills of wales and northwest england. most dry , but most places will stay dry, but don't expect much blue sky. it's just grey but mild temperatures in double figures at 12, maybe

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legend and a very dear friend , legend and a very dear friend, kenny thomas. >> it's going to be in the studio. a quick look . studio. let's take a quick look. just to be your only man is to be the greatest joy . be the greatest joy. >> just to be on your cloud . are >> just to be on your cloud. are i >> -- >> those the good old days , >> those the good old days, weren't they, pete? >> 90s wasn't that long ago. were you talking about? >> i was born well, yeah, i was born in the 90s. >> you were born in the. >> you were born in the. >> hang on a second. what do you mean, what? when i was born in 1973. >> oh, my god, 93. nine. 83. yeah moving on. swiftly sorry. >> yes. let's have a look at your email, shall we? we've had a lovely one in, actually, that's made us smile all. >> gwyneth. gwyneth. she says ellie and peter, thank you for being presenters. being brilliant presenters. you've today. being brilliant presenters. you' got today. being brilliant presenters. you' got year today. being brilliant presenters. you' got year old :oday. being brilliant presenters. you' got year old husband just got my 90 year old husband back from the hospital today after and smiling

after surgery and we are smiling at program together. bless at your program together. bless you. means a lot to you. that that means a lot to us, doesn't it? >> it does because what >> it does because that's what we're aren't we're going for, aren't we? yeah. thank you. we're going for, aren't we? yeaand thank you. we're going for, aren't we? yeaand i thank you. we're going for, aren't we? yeaand i hope k you. we're going for, aren't we? yeaand i hope he'sj. we're going for, aren't we? yeaand i hope he's okay. >> and i hope he's okay. >> and i hope he's okay. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> again, sending lots of love to you your husband. right to you and your husband. right before into the rest of before we get into the rest of the show, let's all your the show, let's get all of your news ray addison . news headlines with ray addison. >> cheers, guys. good morning. 11:02, our top stories this houn 11:02, our top stories this hour. rishi sunak is set to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration with italy's right wing prime minister, giorgia meloni. the meeting, which is taking place in rome, comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats, bringing the total to 29,500. this year , the pm is to 29,500. this year, the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration, border security expert henry bolton told us he needs to find a real solution. >> i think it is a bit of a gimmick and i worry that

everybody or governments , everybody or governments, parliaments, politicians , the parliaments, politicians, the media, the public has become fixated on rwanda. we shouldn't be. there are a whole range of other risks out there, as well as immigration. there's all the cocaine, all the heroin, 97% of the illegal firearms that enter the illegal firearms that enter the that are in this country have entered across our borders . have entered across our borders. um, and rwanda won't work. i'm absolutely convinced rwanda will not do what the government says it will do . it will do. >> the metropolitan police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found that prince harry was was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability . for truth and accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation . british ongoing investigation. british schoolboy alex batty who went missing some six years ago in spain, is expected to return to

the uk this afternoon. 70 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune, where he was living with his mum. alex's grandmother, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited. charlie hedgesis them to be reunited. charlie hedges is a missing person expert. he told us alex made a very difficult decision . very difficult decision. >> what's unusual is that he's been from that young age with them for so long and suddenly decided , i don't want to be here decided, i don't want to be here anymore. i want to make my own life, which is brilliant and it smacks of him being in a much more capable position of dealing with it. whereas some children in situations they're in these situations and they're not uncommon and become so not that uncommon and become so brainwashed the other parent brainwashed by the other parent that really , um, know that they don't really, um, know what do and don't understand what to do and don't understand what to do and don't understand what alternatives are what alternatives there are hundreds protested in tel aviv last night after israel's military admitted mistakenly killing three israeli hostages. >> being held in gaza. the idf

says troops opened fire after jotunheim sur mer, tahalka and alan shamriz were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf is now promising full transparency while they investigate the incident . ukraine air defence incident. ukraine air defence units have destroyed russian drones as they attacked the country's capital. kiev's mayor saying that two groups of unmanned russian aerial vehicles were headed for the capital in the early hours of this morning, witnesses reported hearing explosions as anti—aircraft units went into operation. ukraine's air force saying it took down 30 of the 31 drones launched by russia overnight, with no reports of serious damage . some more international damage. some more international news and donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani is to appeal after being ordered to pay appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for

defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers, one dreyer, shaye moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages as a result, including threats of lynching , including threats of lynching, and were forced to relocate . and were forced to relocate. giuliani's falsely claimed that he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence, and described the payout as absurd . described the payout as absurd. we're back here, the rac says. petrol prices have fallen to their lowest price in more than two years. a litre of unleaded petrol now costs an average of 142.5 £0.07. that's a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . the news comes not fallen. the news comes dunng not fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of year on the roads, with experts saying that prices should continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas , vaping products were christmas, vaping products were the fastest growing grocery category this year, reaching

almost £900 million in sales, according to research by nick and the grocer. it's the second yearin and the grocer. it's the second year in a row that they've topped industry lists. that's despite the pm saying that the government would act to kerb vaping among young people . vaping among young people. meanwhile, purchasers of cigarettes , cigars and loose cigarettes, cigars and loose tobacco have all fallen sharply and finally , the death of and finally, the death of hollywood actor matthew perry has been ruled an accident from the effects of ketamine . medical the effects of ketamine. medical officers in los angeles say drowning was also a factor in his death. police were called to the sitcom star's home in la in october, where he was found unresponsive in his pool. he died at the age of 54. this is gb news across the uk on tv and your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to ellie and peter.

>> thanks so much, ray. now coming up later in the show, we're spoiling you because you're going to be joined by another 90s pop legend alongside pete . pete. >> you've got some competition, no competition. >> the guy the guy looks fantastic . fantastic. >> pete loves him. let's take a look and i'm thinking about your love. >> if you need someone to care, i'll be there. you should know i'll be there. you should know i'll never change. cause i'm thinking about your love tonight. to what a do you do ? tonight. to what a do you do? >> your version. >> your version. >> that was lovely. no. treat us. >> us. >> please. do it later. when it comes in, we want to hear it from him. >> yeah, but you're very good as well. it's a real treat. listening you. well. it's a real treat. listining you. well. it's a real treat. listi can't you. well. it's a real treat. listi can't waitj. well. it's a real treat. listi can't wait for kenny thomas >> i can't wait for kenny thomas because i love kenny thomas. and he's to be joining live he's going to be joining us live in lot of his fans he's going to be joining us live in really lot of his fans he's going to be joining us live in really excited. t of his fans he's going to be joining us live in really excited. oh, his fans he's going to be joining us live in really excited. oh, he's ans are really excited. oh, he's going to the show. so it's going to be on the show. so it's going to be on the show. so it's going to be great. >> two legends yes, ended the show, go show, so please don't go anywhere now. are tough anywhere now. taxes are tough enough around. enough to get your head around. even someone who is used to even as someone who is used to paying paying them.

>> really been paying them. >> formal really been paying them. >> formal education really been paying them. >> formal education intoy been paying them. >> formal education into howen any formal education into how you tax man happy. you keep mr. tax man happy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so is it time to the >> so is it time to scrap the learn you approach? and learn as you go approach? and instead, we introduce instead, should we introduce loose on how to loose school lessons on how to pay loose school lessons on how to pay your taxes and how to deal with your finances under prime minister rishi sunak's new plans to overhaul a—levels, sixth formers will be taught how to manage their personal finances. yeah, the prime minister says that he wants to create a world class education system that prepares students for jobs of the future. well, joining us now to discuss this is teacher and former lib dem candidate calum robertson. very good to see you this morning calum . so what do this morning calum. so what do you make of this then. so students are being taught about how to pay their taxes in schools . i think lots of people schools. i think lots of people would really welcome that. it's something practical that something really practical that actually students in later actually helps students in later life. yes i completely agree. >> it's a really good idea. on the face of it, i think where we might run into some like problems just in terms of implementing it is teachers and schools are stretched already.

uh, i would ask, well, if we're saying yes to implementing this really valuable thing, then actually, what are we cutting from the curriculum? because there's simply not enough time within day and within within the school day and within school to facilitate school budgets to facilitate this. at the moment, schools need more if we're going need more money if we're going to do effectively . to do this effectively. >> do you think just generally, calum, from your perspective inside the classroom, do we need to modernise the curriculum? do we need to be teaching students more practical life lessons moving forward rather than, you know, when i think of the arts lessons that i sat in that really has provided me with no general life advice , it's general life advice, it's something like this would have been a lot more practical . been a lot more practical. >> yeah. i mean, there's a strong case for including practical , uh, strong case for including practical, uh, sort of studies and things like that and more vocational. we should we should say, um, but at the same time , say, um, but at the same time, actually, when we look at the maths curriculum at the moment, it teaches problem skills, solve

skills that actually skills in a way that actually very few other maths curriculum in world do. and it's shown in the world do. and it's shown in the world do. and it's shown in our national rankings. uh we're one of top performing we're one of the top performing countries maths . we've also countries for maths. we've also changed learn read changed how we learn how to read and country the and write in this country in the last years. maths last 15 years. again, maths massively, uh, progressed our rankings on the international scales . it's really, really scales. it's really, really important though , that we, if important though, that we, if we're going to introduce this stuff which is not, as i say, a bad thing at all, then actually we, we have to do it without taking away from students actual real academic experiences in schools and classrooms . schools and classrooms. >> is there the capacity then for students to do all the academic stuff, like, as you say, the stuff to pass exams and to get their qualification runs alongside the practical life lesson stuff that we're talking about today? or do you think that simply isn't enough time in the school calendar for? >> there is, um, the reality is a lot of schools do it very, very badly at the moment. is the honest truth . and that's not

honest truth. and that's not a criticism on schools. it's because as teachers, i'm trained to teach law and politics. i'm not trained to teach someone how to do their taxes. now i can fumble through my taxes. sure, like most people in the country, that make me expert that doesn't make me an expert in um, so actually , if we in tax. um, so actually, if we are going to do it, there's the question of time in the curriculum, but there's also no and really and it's really, really important. question important. the question of getting the room to getting experts into the room to teach the kids don't just leave it to the geography teacher as a spare slot in their timetable, or the history teacher or the maths who's maths teacher. get someone who's really qualified in tax and really well qualified in tax and in personal development and everything else into the classroom. really classroom. that's really actually lost in the actually what we've lost in the last years. um, with the last 15 years. um, with the conservative to education, conservative cuts to education, we've ability we've lost the ability to actually budgets , to actually school budgets, to bnng actually school budgets, to bring an outside expert, to bring in an outside expert, to employ a specific teacher. um bnng employ a specific teacher. um bring the money back for that. and actually, you'd be able to deliver exactly what rishi sunaks promising. >> okay, some really good points there, callum. thank so much there, callum. thank you so much for that story . for your opinion on that story. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. right

>> thank you. right >> we're joined by and >> we're joined by tommy and joanna. right. do you joanna. right. so what do you guys think? joanna. right. so what do you guys thiiboring is rishi? come >> how boring is rishi? come on rish, game. um. he's rish, up your game. um. he's he he's already come out and said we more mathematics we need to do more mathematics at school now. he's more. i'm like are confirming like rish, you are confirming the you definitely the fact that you are definitely an indian dad. because this is so, indian. um, must so, so indian. um, taxation must do it's like, do mathematics. it's like, where's sexiness in school? where's the sexiness in school? where's bit fun and where's the bit of fun and games? where's it? i mean, next he's going we've got to he's going to say we've got to up he's gonna be up our cricket and he's gonna be in the curry making. but he's what, i like this, what, what i like about this, what, what i like about this, what this is it's what i like about this is it's practical . and i'm sure joanna practical. and i'm sure joanna will more say about will have more to say about this. entrepreneur, a this. as an entrepreneur, as a business that i think now business person that i think now there's more people are there's more people that are doing ventures, doing entrepreneur ventures, trying own businesses. trying out their own businesses. gone the where you get gone are the days where you get a job for life and you you're there. a there. therefore you can have a general skills to apply general set of skills to apply to workplace. this about to a workplace. this is about saying with the saying get real, get with the real learn how your taxes real world. learn how your taxes and and how and our money moves, and how finances uh, understand finances move. uh, understand the around you in more the world around you in a more practical therefore you practical way, and therefore you can little field. can thrive in your little field. so yeah, surely you so i think, yeah, surely you you're for this. you're for more tax awareness. oh absolutely.

you're for this. you're for more tax amean, ss. oh absolutely. you're for this. you're for more tax amean, i;. oh absolutely. you're for this. you're for more tax amean, i couldibsolutely. you're for this. you're for more tax amean, i could havertely. >> i mean, i could have definitely something >> i mean, i could have defiithis.’ something >> i mean, i could have defiithis. and something >> i mean, i could have defiithis. and obviouslynething >> i mean, i could have defiithis. and obviously we1ing >> i mean, i could have defiithis. and obviously we were like this. and obviously we were talking about whether we've even got space, you know, got enough space, you know, within to within the school curriculum to slot was at slot this in. when i was at school, we had citizenship lessons . i school, we had citizenship lessons. i don't school, we had citizenship lessons . i don't know if you lessons. i don't know if you remember those. i don't know if kids still do that, it kids still do that, but it doesn't. i don't think this type of takes the whole, you of teaching takes the whole, you know, teach know, school year to teach people their taxes people how to do their taxes and, know, to do certain and, you know, to do certain things. this things. but i think this would be to into be better to slot into citizenship lessons rather than what's an asbo? don't do antisocial behaviour, which the citizenship lessons that i used to have were quite pointless, really. if you were a good kid, you know not to spray paint walls and things like that, but actually i could have done with knowing how to do my tax return because i have do it now. so because i have to do it now. so and a lot of other life skills as be taught the as well could be taught in the schools. as well could be taught in the sch i )ls. not everyone's great >> i mean, not everyone's great at the same thing. someone that might like might be amazing in maths, like you were might not be you were saying, might not be great something you great at something else. and you know technology know, times change, technology has changed, so much has changed. system seems to

changed. but the system seems to have stayed the yeah the have stayed the same. yeah the school system. >> i like a good scholar, >> i do like a good scholar, though, you know, like someone who's gone to really good who's gone to a really good school that school and they've got that kind of can of general education. they can quote and think quote history and latin. i think those people think that's those people i do think that's dying out and now it's more niche. seeing in niche. we're seeing a rise in apprenticeships and things like that. instead of the alternatives university alternatives to university degrees, people to degrees, because people want to hone in. they're actually going, i need know it all. i don't need to know it all. i need to how get through i don't need to know it all. i neething. how get through i don't need to know it all. i neething. and how get through i don't need to know it all. i neething. and amountiet through i don't need to know it all. i neething. and amount of through my thing. and amount of businesses must have fallen my thing. and amount of businibecause must have fallen my thing. and amount of businibecause they st have fallen my thing. and amount of businibecause they can'tfe fallen my thing. and amount of businibecause they can't manage down because they can't manage their tax. they can't manage their tax. they can't manage their practical their finances or the practical side it knowing to put side of it knowing to put certain money away, certain part of your money away, to your accountant, to to deal with your accountant, to deal with different sides of deal with the different sides of it, your wages as it, and how your wages change as you different brackets. it, and how your wages change as you thatiifferent brackets. it, and how your wages change as you that is:erent brackets. it, and how your wages change as you that is very: brackets. it, and how your wages change as you that is very: brac so ;. all of that is very real. so this is this is going to be welcome. think this is welcome. and i think this is good for kids. >> let know what you >> well let us know what you think home gbviews@gbnews.com think at home gbviews@gbnews.com i to an i know you're going to have an opinion that look, we opinion on that one. look, we have about this story have to talk about this story that's really caught this that's really caught my eye this week. like something out week. it's like something out of a think there's a film. and i think there's definitely going to be a documentary about this. definitely going to be a docu battyiry about this. definitely going to be a docu batty now about this. definitely going to be a docu batty now a about this. definitely going to be a docu batty now a 17 about this. definitely going to be a docu batty now a 17 yeart this. definitely going to be a docu batty now a 17 year old s. alex batty now a 17 year old boy, he missing in

boy, but he went missing in spain six years he turned spain six years ago. he turned up the mountains in france up in the mountains in france and said to a passing van driver , he needs a future . he was , he needs a future. he was holding his skateboard and ,100 cash and the papers today saying he escaped. a hippie cult and he had been brainwash . but, i mean, had been brainwash. but, i mean, it's just the most remarkable story, isn't it, joanna? it's crazy . crazy. >> and actually, when i first saw this, the first thing i thought was the amount of mental strength that this young boy must have had, because i think any of us could be brainwashed. ihave any of us could be brainwashed. i have this conversation with my mum to me, i don't mum when she says to me, i don't get how people actually end get how people can actually end up think it's up in cults, but i think it's quite, um, easy. quite, you know, um, easy. i actually said to her in reference to that when i was on the apprentice, and you're in that bubble you're that that bubble and you're in that house, you start to lose your mind else who's mind for anybody else who's doing type of reality tv, doing any type of reality tv, you to believe you really do start to believe certain things. imagine certain things. so imagine somebody this for years somebody doing this for years and and years. obviously and years and years. obviously it's amazing he's been able it's amazing that he's been able to and so brave. yeah so to escape. and so brave. yeah so brave. and i hope that he's able

to get, i guess, the mental health help as well that he'll probably need this that any probably need from this that any of need. cannot of us would need. i cannot imagine , um, he's been imagine, um, what he's been through . through. >> well, was allegedly >> well, he was allegedly kidnapped by his mother and his grandfather . so, i kidnapped by his mother and his grandfather. so, i mean, what you're saying there for an 11 year old boy to be with his mother then mother and grandfather and then had strength years later had the strength six years later to isn't the that to say, this isn't the life that i want, i'm going to risk it all and go walking the and go walking through the mountains and try mountains for hours and try and get i'm thinking the fine >> i'm thinking about the fine he's get from his he's going to get from his school because he was out for six that fine is six years. um, that that fine is going be in there. going to be in there. and can i just a moment he looks just say for a moment he looks all right, i'm just all right, though. i'm just saying he went to france. he lived outdoors. lived in the outdoors. he doesn't look doesn't he doesn't look malnutrition. he looks doesn't he doesn't look malnli'm on. he looks doesn't he doesn't look malnli'm just he looks doesn't he doesn't look malnli'm just saying, he looks doesn't he doesn't look malnli'm just saying, wherever good. i'm just saying, wherever they there for those six they did there for those six years, i it was an years, i think it was an upgrade. if anything, are upgrade. uh, if anything, are the parents going to of the parents going to be kind of going put him a going take my kid, put him in a little there's a little car? look, there's a serious side this of course serious side to this of course series, main thing is series, but the main thing is the just the boys. well, and i'm just saying look good. he's saying he does look good. he's probably a french accent. probably got a french accent. he's if he he's going to be smoother if he comes england. now he's

comes back to england. now he's going to clean up. >> do you think, though, >> but do you think, though, that, about that, you know, talking about the mental health of the mental health side of it? i mean, be a of mean, there'll be a sense of guilt probably from his side of leaving you know, leaving because, you know, if you're in something, you're instilled in something, whatever is, whatever type of cult it is, when something's instilled whatever type of cult it is, wheryeah.ething's instilled whatever type of cult it is, wheryeah.ethiryears stilled whatever type of cult it is, wheryeah.ethiryears later,i whatever type of cult it is, wheryeah.ethiryears later, even you. yeah. uh, years later, even if that, you still if you leave that, you still feel of guilt, of feel a sense of guilt, of betraying. so think he'll betraying. so do you think he'll betraying. so do you think he'll be through that as well? be going through that as well? yeah, be going through that as well? yeai, be going through that as well? yeai mean, this is his actual >> i mean, this is his actual flesh and blood. his yeah flesh and blood. his mum. yeah i'm of the word. i'm trying to think of the word. what's where, you what's the word? where, um, you end love with the end up falling in love with the person end up falling in love with the per stockholm syndrome. >> stockholm syndrome. >> stockholm syndrome. >> syndrome? >> stockholm syndrome? there's people no association people who have no association with them with the people who kidnap them or, keep them captive, or, you know, keep them captive, and they up that. never and they end up with that. never mind having mother son bond mind having that mother son bond and to kind have and then having to kind of have the say, no, the mental strength to say, no, this isn't actually right. i want to actually live a normal life outside of this cult. >> well, let's hope he gets all the needs. very the support that he needs. very brave man . look, we've brave young man. look, we've just time and i've a just got time and i've got a vested interest this one. uh, vested interest in this one. uh, top that people choose for top songs that people choose for their weddings. let me tell you, i'm in the market for a first wedding song . it's very wedding song. it's very

difficult. we've got the list here of the top ten wedding songs. >> you want me to rate them? >> you want me to rate them? >> i do tell me the top >> yeah, i do tell me the top three guesses. >> number one, adele. >> number one, adele. >> no. >> no. >> right. getting to that. >> right. we're getting to that. stevie isn't she lovely? stevie wonder isn't she lovely? number right. number 10. right. >> good one. >> it's a good one. >>— >> it's a good one. >> brilliant song. >> brilliant song. >> bruno. it's skewed towards the one part of the relationship. oh, do you see relationship. and oh, do you see what i mean? isn't she . aren't what i mean? isn't she. aren't they would have been they lovely? would have been better they lovely? would have been bet yeah, you know what the >> yeah, but you know what the song for? what? it was for song was for? what? it was for his that was born. see, his baby. that was born. see, mate, doesn't fit. mate, it doesn't fit. >> see, people just >> see, people have just jumped on main line and made song. >> this is the difficulty, a great song. >> it's hard to to fit. >> it's hard to get it to fit. yeah, go in the top three. >> okay. >> okay. >> top three. elvis can't help falling love. you very falling in love. thank you very much. do you think of that? much. what do you think of that? i love that's my. much. what do you think of that? i lothis that's my. much. what do you think of that? i lothis tiour; my. much. what do you think of that? i lothis tiour current choice. >> this is our current choice. >> this is our current choice. >> yeah, our choice. >> yeah, our current choice. okay. a great one. okay. it's a great one. >> i can't help falling in love with two. with you two. >> legend, of me. great song. >> love dedication. >> i love that dedication. >> i love that dedication. >> john legend >> commitment to john legend doesn't it me. it doesn't do it for me. i find it a bit cringe. sorry. >> a number one top wedding song mysteriously , we ed sheeran with

mysteriously, we ed sheeran with perfect . perfect. >> oh great song by the way . >> oh great song by the way. >> oh great song by the way. >> mysterious girl would be great for an arranged marriage because he met her before because he never met her before and turn very good and you just turn up very good that would be a good one. the asian weddings. >> is really, really >> but it is really, really difficult you the difficult. did you find the lyrics you know , lyrics to match? you know, stevie wonder? isn't she lovely? you that's for stevie wonder? isn't she lovely? y(wedding that's for stevie wonder? isn't she lovely? y(wedding song?�*|at's for stevie wonder? isn't she lovely? y(wedding song? we're for stevie wonder? isn't she lovely? y(wedding song? we're looking at a wedding song? we're looking at them this one them now and there's this one song. am i going to remember it now? when i now? um, but it starts when i was it to you before, was singing it to you before, wasn't i in newsroom wasn't i in the newsroom thinking love as thinking about your love as well? there's i'm well? but there's one i'm not going remember. the chorus, going to remember. the chorus, but essentially it into the but essentially it goes into the verse and it but to you verse and it says, but to you i'm a clown who picks you i'm just a clown who picks you up each time you're down. oh, baby. you baby. and i'm like, oh, you can't call your groom a clown. it's going work. oh baby, it's not going to work. oh baby, you of the oh you to me you think of the oh you to me everything that could everything a song that i could sing. so were driving along sing. so we were driving along thinking, great. thinking, this sounds great. these perfect . you to these lyrics are perfect. you to me the sweetest me are everything. the sweetest thing then he's thing. wonderful. but then he's a can't play the chorus. >> just repeat the chorus 20 times. it's so hard to find the perfect wedding song. >> according >> but there you go. according to , i believe it's to this paper, i believe it's daily mail. uh, ed sheeran

perfect perfect wedding perfect is the perfect wedding story. love that right? >> coming up after the break, we'll be joined by former sas soldier turned celebrity bodyguard. see you in three.

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. change a welcome back to saturday morning live with peter andre and the lovely ellie

costello. >> now when you're in the public, by the way, before we do this, i have to say something. ellie's been saying all day to me. no, you asked them questions so them questions so you can ask them questions when arrived looking when you arrived looking a million bucks. going to million bucks. we're going to get in a second. get to you in a second. she's like, i've got so many questions, handsome man. here. we'll about in we'll talk about that in a minute. when you're in minute. right. when you're in the no the public eye, there's no greater knowing the public eye, there's no grea you knowing the public eye, there's no grea you have knowing the public eye, there's no grea you have the knowing the public eye, there's no grea you have the bestiowing the public eye, there's no grea you have the best looking that you have the best looking after your security. that's not what it said, but went what it said, but i just went back best looking. back to best looking. >> with that. >> i went with that. >> i went with that. >> now, celebrities even >> now, some celebrities even enjoy friendships with enjoy close friendships with their security. ed sheeran describes his bodyguard kev as his best mate, and i'd bet you'd feel safer knowing that your security is a former sas soldier. >> well, we're delighted to be joined by close protection officer to the stars and veteran marine craig ainsworth . marine craig ainsworth. >> very good to see you this morning , craig having me, guys, morning, craig having me, guys, and you have got the most amazing background i think are all of everyone watching and listening home going be listening at home is going to be so in your story so interested in your story because you're a former royal

marine, you've marine, and then you've transitioned to looking transitioned into to looking after and protecting that huge responsibility of the responsibility to some of the biggest stars in the world. what's that journey been like for you? >> it was organic, going >> it was quite organic, going from a veteran and going from a veteran marine and going from a veteran marine and going from security. um of celebrities is very an organic move for most people do that these days. i think the difficulty is when you start spending time consistently with someone in their day to day life, you become that fly on the wall and you know , essentially wall and you know, essentially following around and following someone around and you become that of their become a part of that of their day to day life. so i think that's biggest challenge day to day life. so i think that's thaniggest challenge day to day life. so i think that's thaniggeactuallenge day to day life. so i think that's thaniggeactual security rather than the actual security aspect can imagine. aspect itself can imagine. >> very different from >> it's very different from your previous work. >> it's very different from your pre'yeah,work. >> it's very different from your pre'yeah, there's a lot more >> yeah, there's a lot more sensitivities . and, know, sensitivities. and, you know, there's involved there's children involved and people do as well. people have a job to do as well. you stop you can't just stop things because, because it's because, you know, because it's unsecure. have to actually unsecure. you have to actually mould yourself around that at all . all times. >> w w- b“— 5“— >> so how does it work in your mind. so i imagine if you're if you're looking after a celebrity, you kind see them celebrity, you kind of see them as of your family as an extension of your family and you protect as such. or and you protect them as such. or is is it not that at is it is it not like that at all? it a lot more?

all? is it a lot more? >> it's strange service. >> it's very strange service. >> it's very strange service. >> definitely have >> you definitely have that connection if you connection with somebody if you spend, know, a year or so spend, you know, a year or so looking they become, looking after them, they become, you know, like your little brother, your little sister or whatever may be, you feel whatever it may be, or you feel a that family, but it's a part of that family, but it's about as professional a part of that family, but it's abiyou as professional a part of that family, but it's abiyou can, as professional a part of that family, but it's abiyou can, because)rofessional a part of that family, but it's abiyou can, because that'sional a part of that family, but it's abiyou can, because that's when as you can, because that's when you your eye off as you can, because that's when you ball your eye off as you can, because that's when you ball and your eye off as you can, because that's when you ball and you your eye off as you can, because that's when you ball and you know, ye off as you can, because that's when you ball and you know, youff the ball and you know, you become involved a little bit too much involved. so you need to always step back and remember that to, to, to that you're there to, to, to protect them. i mean, after all, it's people protecting people protect them. i mean, after all, it's ppeople. 'otecting people protect them. i mean, after all, it's ppeople.'oteyou1 people protect them. i mean, after all, it's ppeople.'oteyou1 pec need protect them. i mean, after all, it's ppeople. 'ote you; pec need to from people. so you just need to keep kind of reminds keep your just kind of reminds you bodyguard, the film. you of the bodyguard, the film. >> i mean, >> yeah. just does i mean, i guess hemsworth, i guess with chris hemsworth, i mean, after mean, mean, looking after him. i mean, there must be times you look up and he need and go, does he really need lookingcan certainly look after >> he can certainly look after himself. that's but himself. that's for sure. but that's there to that's the thing you're there to allow him to do his magic so he can and you worry can live his life, and you worry about the other bits and pieces. >> so what is the biggest threat? what are you looking for when someone? when you're protecting someone? >> the client >> it depends who the client would especially um, >> it depends who the client woulmalesespecially um, >> it depends who the client woulmalesthemselves um, >> it depends who the client woulmales themselves and m, with males themselves and especially sports personalities or like chris, there's or someone like chris, there's a lot of females that will find their sort of just try their way, sort of just to try and picture that can

and get that picture that can then salacious and become then become salacious and become a story that never happened. so that's a story that never happened. so th.all the physical threats of all of the physical threats as well. often have, you as well. but you often have, you know, other people know, police and other people supporting that area. supporting you in that area. it's you get into the it's only when you get into the sensitive dealing sensitive areas, again, dealing with, know, entourage or with, you know, the entourage or friends friends. friends or friends of friends. that's where the real tricky, tncky that's where the real tricky, tricky aspects begin to happen. >> yeah, it's a real difficult balance i can imagine. what do you have a right to do? so let's say you were looking out for someone chris hemsworth and someone like chris hemsworth and someone like chris hemsworth and someone come do someone like chris hemsworth and somhave come do someone like chris hemsworth and som have the come do someone like chris hemsworth and som have the right ome do someone like chris hemsworth and som have the right on stop do you have the right to stop someone push someone off to self—defence? >> as any anybody else does? you don't have write off police don't have to write off a police officer. can detain officer. you can you can detain people people. um until people or hold people. um until the police arrive. but typically you're always trying to keep moving. you don't want to stop your if you're being your momentum if you're being if someone's attack you, someone's coming to attack you, you deal with the issue someone's coming to attack you, you you deal with the issue someone's coming to attack you, you you dealcontinue issue someone's coming to attack you, you you dealcontinue moving, and you want to continue moving, get there to a safe space get out of there to a safe space as possible. so it's as soon as possible. so it's always about preparation. everything's preparation everything's about preparation and knowing where you are and working as a team. >> and are you one of those those that to be those people that likes to be right the person you're right next to the person you're looking or do like to looking after? or do you like to

be a bit back just be sort of a bit back and just no one really knows you're there? but when you're there? but then when you're needed there, you jump out i >> precisely. i think it's better and give people as better to try and give people as much space as possible when you're after people with you're looking after people with families you families and you know you want them to feel as free as possible, sometimes you'll possible, and sometimes you'll always eye on the always have your eye on the client themselves, but they can't you appear can't see you. but you appear as if when the time if from nowhere when the time comes. so that's that's really the best i like to like zorro. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> there you go. it's the best, best i put it. best way i could put it. >> you ever find it >> craig, do you ever find it difficult switch off? difficult to switch off? >> mean, with your >> i mean, obviously with your background royal marine and background as a royal marine and now working for high profile as high profile security, do you ever find that you're just always watching, out always watching, looking out for, ? for, for threats? >> yeah. it becomes a part of your nature , think covid your nature, i think when covid happened and everything stopped, that's i really began to that's when i really began to struggle . struggle. >> look, we've got your new book with us in the studio today, the discombobulated alpha . uh, tell discombobulated alpha. uh, tell us a bit about this, craig. and why you wanted to write it. >> so during covid, i lost 11 friends in 16 months to suicide. a lot of people the same

a lot of people from the same sort background myself, sort of background as myself, but from across the world. um, and started speaking to my and i started speaking to my friends people who were friends and people who were close, to me, and close, close to me, and i realised how people were realised how much people were suffering. actually suffering. so i've actually stepped away from security. i wrote um, and it's wrote my book, um, and it's about a journey and trying to get people to speak about their feelings because paper, i've feelings because on paper, i've very an alpha persona. very much an alpha persona. i want people to know, especially men themselves, to out men themselves, to speak out about how they feel and to sort of try to overcome you of try to overcome this, you know, this wave of mental health issues that we have here in across the world really . i've across the world really. i've actually a company actually started a company called savage where we called virtuous savage where we coach workshop and take coach and workshop and we take people as well. but people on retreats as well. but it's based upon my journey it's all based upon my journey and story. with the and my story. with the discombobulated alpha. >> what you wrote >> and i love what you wrote here. come true here. you said dreams come true when brave enough to when you were brave enough to fight them. absolutely. fight for them. absolutely. well, i read my one? yeah, well, can i read my one? yeah, that's good one. that's a really good one. >> ellie, keep >> it says to ellie, keep empowering everywhere empowering women everywhere with your of hard your amazing example of hard work dedication. anne. work and dedication. anne. >> so much, craig. >> thank you so much, craig. very good. >> incredible what >> absolutely incredible what you're doing such an you're doing and such an important cause as well. mental

health and talking about things before it is too late. so thank you craig, so much for coming in and telling us about your incredible career as well. >> thank you very much. thanks, craig. right, let us all craig. right, let us know all your thoughts of your thoughts on all of our topics gbviews@gbnews.com. your thoughts on all of our topi he's coming up at the end of the show. you're going to give us flavour oh he's going us a flavour note. oh he's going to wait. but let's to make us wait. but first let's get headlines with ray get the news headlines with ray adamson . good morning. adamson. good morning. >> it's 1131. adamson. good morning. >> it's1131. our top story this houn >> it's1131. our top story this hour. rishi sunak will discuss ways to tackle illegal migration with italy's right wing prime minister giorgia meloni. the meeting, which is taking place in rome , comes just a day after in rome, comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channelin 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats. that brings the total to 29,500 this year. the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration .

to tackle irregular migration. the metropolitan police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found prince harry was the victim of phone hacking . the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that it extensive hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability . the met says accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation . and british investigation. and british schoolboy alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain , missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk this afternoon. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he was living with his mum. alex's grandmother, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited . and in some them to be reunited. and in some quick breaking news that just in now, hms diamond has shot down a

suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says the target was destroyed overnight with a sea viper missile. the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . and we'll bring you security. and we'll bring you more on this story as we get it. okay. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news.com. now let's get straight back to ellie and peter . peter. >> yeah. thanks, ray. uh, just got some views here that we want to share with you. a really interesting one, actually. karen interesting one, actually. karen in hampshire says, what about teachers? they're not allowed to take time off during tum time to go on holiday. and that is a very valid point. go on holiday. and that is a veryeah,i point. go on holiday. and that is a veryeah, it'sint. go on holiday. and that is a veryeah, it's a:. go on holiday. and that is a veryeah, it's a story out today >> yeah, it's a story out today in the independent that the school absences have been soaring as parents are taking their children on holiday during tum time to save money. so we were asking well families were asking well the families

have do that or not. have a right to do that or not. keith says the teachers go on strike at a moment's notice and they missed they don't bother about missed lessons. keith's point. lessons. that's keith's point. views do keep them coming in this morning, gb views at gb news.com . news.com. >> and now your weekly dose of showbiz news. and we're delighted to have showbiz journalist stephanie taoiseach, who looks amazing in red , who looks amazing in red, festive again at different, different vibe of festive. you're just picking each colour tinsel's in the hair. >> next week guys, i'm bringing the headbands. i'm like a green tree. >> it just keeps coming . >> it just keeps coming. stephanie, wardrobe stephanie, your wardrobe is absolutely incredible. what have you for us this week? you got for us this week? >> strictly i love strictly come dancing, but tonight is the grand final . after 12 weeks, grand final. after 12 weeks, we've seen 17 contestants and it's now whittled to the final three. >> so we have bobby brazier, who is jade goody's son. if he wins that glitter ball trophy, he will be the youngest ever contestant at the age of 20 to win it. >> and he's been amazing. he's been performing with dianne buswell and i think he's really gnpped buswell and i think he's really gripped nation's heart gripped the nation's heart

because he's been complete novice. >> when it comes to dancing, and he's really , really pushed he's really, really pushed through next candidate is through the next candidate is leighton williams and his partner nikita chisholm. now, if they win, they will be the first same sex pairing to win the show. he's received a lot of flack because he does have a professional dance background. is that fair ? stephanie i don't is that fair? stephanie i don't know, it's a bit hard because i think the whole point of strictly is you go on there, you learn the moves. well, if you've already got a dance background, you're of at an advantage. you're kind of at an advantage. okay. but what if, what if though, what if, uh, you know, dancing you've been taught, but you haven't been taught every style dancing. style of dancing. >> so, example , you might be >> so, for example, you might be great at ballroom, that that great at ballroom, but that that doesn't mean you know anything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsaln you know anything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . you know anything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . and know anything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . and i;now anything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . and i knownnything great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . and i know when|g great at ballroom, but that that doesn�*salsa . and i know when i about salsa. and i know when i went doing years of went on doing years of performing on stage, but i had no and no idea about ballroom, and i found difficult. is it found it so difficult. is it fair? is it not? i mean, you know , people go on cooking shows know, people go on cooking shows that have cooked. >> and that's the >> i know, and that's the problem. the thing is, the problem. and the thing is, the problem. and the thing is, the problem with getting people who do background do have that dance background is they criticism and

they face so much criticism and it's not fair. leighton's been speaking abuse he's speaking about the abuse he's been online. so then been receiving online. so then you think to yourself, is it fair then, for someone like him to be put in that position just because and on because he can dance and go on the face all this, you the show and face all this, you know, hysteria from the public. so it's a hard one. >> but then ellie leach, who's the finalist, she's the the third finalist, she's the favourite, i believe the bookies favourite, i believe the bookies favourite , she's topped the favourite, she's topped the leaderboard four times with her partner vito capello. >> haven't put a foot wrong >> they haven't put a foot wrong the whole series . obviously the whole series. obviously there's been rumours about them two secretly dating, which they've denied. there always is. yeah but i think their chemistry has amazing and i think has been amazing and i think you've really we've really seen her blossomed over the past 12 weeks. so i'm banking on ellie to win. >> are you and she's also got a performing arts background as well. if you want to play that game leighton. game with leighton. >> the thing feel like >> and the thing is, i feel like leighton's it worse than leighton's got it worse than ellie, because ellie, i think because the pubuc ellie, i think because the public ellie bit more. public love ellie a bit more. they've swept that they've kind of swept that underneath carpet a bit, underneath the carpet a bit, which bit unfair, but who which is a bit unfair, but who knows, might go to bobby.

knows, it might go to bobby. >> would like it to to >> i would like it to go to bobby because i think it would be really lovely for his mum looking down. >> he recently done >> and he recently done a performance for dance was performance for a dance that was in jade, and it was in tribute to jade, and it was so because we've him so lovely because we've seen him grow public eye, but grow up in the public eye, but he's that he's never really had that moment of about her moment to kind of talk about her or to her. so i or pay tribute to her. so i think this will be a really lovely final and it's been a great in all, it has great series. all in all, it has been certainly . great series. all in all, it has been certainly. um dun dun dun. >> matthew perry , let's talk >> matthew perry, let's talk about matthew perry. very, very sad . of course, the autopsy sad. of course, the autopsy results came back in. what are your thoughts on this ? your thoughts on this? >> you know, it felt like we had all lost a friend when matthew perry died because friends was just sitcoms where just one of those sitcoms where all characters we just felt all the characters we just felt like were grown up with them, and really sad when he like were grown up with them, and found really sad when he like were grown up with them, and found unresponsive|en he like were grown up with them, and found unresponsive in he like were grown up with them, and found unresponsive in his was found unresponsive in his pool was found unresponsive in his pool. he has always spoken about was found unresponsive in his poo battle1as always spoken about was found unresponsive in his poo battle withlways spoken about was found unresponsive in his poo battle with drugsspoken about was found unresponsive in his poobattle with drugs and, n about was found unresponsive in his poobattle with drugs and, um,out his battle with drugs and, um, now the autopsies come back and he said that he did die of acute use of ketamine and also heart disease and drowning . and, you disease and drowning. and, you know, it's no . 54 is no age to

know, it's no. 54 is no age to die . he had always been open die. he had always been open about his battles with drugs. he was actually he went to a rehab in switzerland where he was receiving infusions of ketamine. that's right. >> in a much smaller dose. >> in a much smaller dose. >> right? yeah to help with his pain and to help with his depression. and he actually spoke about it in his memoir. and it's haunting guys, and it's quite haunting guys, because he said felt he because he said it felt like he was dying every he was was dying every time he was doing treatment. so the doing that treatment. so the whole the story of how he whole the whole story of how he died is quite saddening. died is just quite saddening. and i can imagine for his family, it's still this ongoing of grief for him and just the fact that he did so much to help others with addiction and for him to pass that way. but he's got a bigger legacy than how he died. >> yeah. and a lot of the friends cast, of course, they've all been so destroyed by this. yeah. jennifer aniston just came out and she said that out this week, and she said that she him the day she was texting him on the day that he died, and she said that he sounded fine. >> was in good spirits, good >> he was in good spirits, good health, and for her, they health, and so for her, they were really close. and i think

the knew about the battles the cast knew about the battles he was going through . and it's he was going through. and it's just all tragic all around. and i just it absolutely is. >> but as you say, i think that's a really important point. stephanie that you made his legacy , of course, is as legacy, of course, is as a wonderful actor and a comedian and making people the and making people laugh. the whole world over. also what whole world over. but also what he did to help who were he did to help others who were fighting a battle with addiction and he will have saved so many lives. >> it's just addiction, especially with celebrities. you just hear so many horror stories and i think when you have these tragic cases that come every now and then, it just it comes back into the public awareness . and, into the public awareness. and, you know, celebrities like matthew have to use their status to help in these kind of situations. >> hear e hear , sorry, i know, >> when you hear, sorry, i know, i know, we've got move on. i know, we've got to move on. but when you hear about drugs being know, people being taken on, you know, people have opinions. but have their own opinions. but you've got to think, someone you've got to think, if someone suffered mental suffered a lot of mental health problems they, you problems and they they, you know, like you said, was know, like you said, this was used treatment . yeah. used for his treatment. yeah. um, extended that and um, he then extended that and it's so sad to see it's just a

pain. no one knows what's going on in someone's mind at all, especially for celebrities. >> now, we've got a story here about adele, a girl after my own heart . she steals the mini hotel heart. she steals the mini hotel toiletries. you know, those lovely little bottles. and then she takes them home to use. well, i don't have a mansion, but them home to her mansions. >> the guests use them. is >> the guests can use them. is it stealing, though? i mean, aren't they you? i'm aren't they there for you? i'm not sure as well. >> when i go to hotels, i like to take toilet trees. but to take little toilet trees. but adele is worth £165 so adele is worth £165 million. so i'm do not need to i'm like, you do not need to steal you could steal that, adele. you could just shop and just go down the shop and buy the whole shop. >> she still likes bargain? >> is she still likes a bargain? >> is she still likes a bargain? >> likes a bargain. and she >> she likes a bargain. and she says she takes. she only takes them oh okay. says she takes. she only takes thewe oh okay. says she takes. she only takes thewe can. oh okay. says she takes. she only takes thewe can. she oh okay. says she takes. she only takes thewe can. she selected h okay. says she takes. she only takes thewe can. she selected hotels. so we can. she selected hotels. adele staying at. yeah. saying that the creme la creme. so that the creme de la creme. so she takes like she says she takes stuff like shaving , toothpaste, and shaving cream, toothpaste, and she puts her own little icons on them . when guests come and stay them. when guests come and stay at her house. >> but aren't they there for you to take? i'm really confused about this. when you go about this. see, when you go in about this. see, when you go in a with you this, i think a room with you on this, i think they see hotels

they i don't see hotels complaining they i don't see hotels compiyou ng they i don't see hotels compiyou do take them because >> if you do take them because they put them out, they obviously expect people to use them. >> it's a great size for you to put in your back. >> about taking and >> what about taking a robe and a pillow? >> what about taking a robe and a pi'vel? >> what about taking a robe and a pi've done that before. have >> i've done that before. have you? yeah, that might be different. >> they might one. >> they might charge you one. >> they might charge you one. >> and come back? did >> and did they come back? did they for they charge you for it? >> no they don't. but i think by the time they figure you're the time they figure out you're probably long gone and they probably long gone and they probably actually i'm not encouraging. >> i'm writing this down. sorry guys, toiletries do that. >> e enough e“ >> you pay enough for hotel rooms. should take little souvenir. >> w- wi- >> if you're in a posh hotel. come on. it's probably least come on. it's probably the least of their problems, but i don't likes that, so if, guys, likes to do that, so if, guys, if we ever a night at if we ever have a night at adele's, we're going to get some. how selective some. i love how she's selective about takes from. about where she takes from. >> yeah, but only the for >> yeah, but only the best for her guests. >> thank you very much, stephanie. always lovely to see you. now how would you. thank you. now how would you. thank you. now how would you £10,000 cash? you like to win £10,000 cash? brand new tech and shopping vouchers . that'll be very nice, vouchers. that'll be very nice, wouldn't it be? >> it would. >> it would. >> yep. you could be the winner of first great british of our very first great british giveaway . honoured be part of giveaway. honoured to be part of that. details of that. here's all the details of how make those prizes

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for your company. this morning. so many of you got in touch on email. thank you so much for all of that. of course, we've been talking about prince harry's victory high court. victory in the high court. yesterday. handed down yesterday. a judge handed down his saying his phone his decision, saying his phone was hacked by mirror journalists. so we've got your reaction to that. mary says that harry is a hypocrite regarding privacy invasion. he is happily made money out of invading the privacy of his family and his friends. just like the newspapers that he is suing. sadly, the royal family are unable to sue him for invasion of privacy and defamation . but of privacy and defamation. but they say brilliant show , thank they say brilliant show, thank you very, very much. >> and they say they love your dress. you see, now you're doing what i do. they love your dress, ellie. good. right? ellie. you're very good. right? >> is the dress. >> anyway, sign is the dress. >> anyway, sign is the dress. >> harry wants publicity. this is saying this. this is someone saying this. this isn't from paul says isn't me. bob from paul says harry wants publicity with his spear game books. spear and end game books. interview oprah. but he interview with oprah. but he doesn't want publicity. he hasn't or liked. hasn't generated or liked. spoilt boy . not a fan views here spoilt boy. not a fan views here of prince harry there.

>> do keep those views coming in. vaiews@gbnews.uk com but you're going to love this next guest we've got for you now. >> the 90s was a time where great music was released. one of the best soul singers was a dear friend of mine, kenny thomas , friend of mine, kenny thomas, with a huge solo career. yes kenny had eight uk top 40 singles and two uk top ten albums. >> do you remember this one? and i'm thinking about your love . i'm thinking about your love. >> if you need someone to care i'll be there. you should know i'll be there. you should know i'll never change. cause i'm thinking about your love tonight. the 90s. >> that was a decade, wasn't it? oh that was great. >> however, his career didn't end there because he's announced his 2024 uk tour. plus his book. we'll talk about all that and who better tell us all about it than the man himself. >> welcome to the studio , kenny >> welcome to the studio, kenny thomas. yes it's so good to see you. yes round of applause. sony, you have got the whole

newsroom singing this morning thinking about you. >> and they're old enough to remember my records. are they. >> we are obsessed with this song. we're obsessed with you. absolutely fantastic . absolutely fantastic. >> shall we tell you what ellie said ? said? >> go on, hit me with it. >> go on, hit me with it. >> she was just about to go live and she was reading through. she said. and got the 90s said. and we've got the 90s legend rogers . legend kenny rogers. >> yeah, somebody else, >> yeah, that's somebody else, isn't everything. >> yeah, that's somebody else, isn'tbeen everything. >> yeah, that's somebody else, isn'tbeen kenny everything. >> yeah, that's somebody else, isn'tbeen kenny rogers,hing. >> yeah, that's somebody else, isn'tbeen kenny rogers, kenny i've been kenny rogers, kenny loggins, kenny loggins , g, loggins, kenny loggins, kenny g, everything kenny thomas, everything but kenny thomas, kenny. how does it make you feel? >> the questions, both of you. you were known for? well you've done lots of songs, but you were known specifically for this incredible song. thinking about that was the biggest hit, the biggest . exactly. similar biggest hit. exactly. similar story with with story for you with with mysterious you've got lots mysterious girl. you've got lots of out but that's of music out there, but that's the song that's just really the one song that's just really resonated that resonated with people that people you people love. does that drive you bonkers love it ? bonkers or do you love it? >> yes and no. because, i >> um, yes and no. because, i mean, has the mean, i suppose everyone has the biggest don't they, of biggest hit, don't they, of their some have their careers or some don't have any, but. or just the one. but any, but. orjust the one. but there are others. but that

sticks out as the biggest. it's a great record. it's a great song. so if it was bad song, song. so if it was a bad song, i think be distancing myself think i'd be distancing myself from live with it from it. but i can live with it and still am. i'm still and i still am. i'm still performing at 30 odd years on, so, it's there and so, you know, it's there and i can't away from it now. it's can't get away from it now. it's too when perform too late. and when you perform it, you enjoy , do you it, do you, do you enjoy, do you go stages where you're go through stages where you're kind thinking, oh, i've go through stages where you're kind thinking , oh, i've got kind of thinking, oh, i've got to get to this or do you to get to this song, or do you think actually can sing think actually they can all sing it now and just i can sit back and it? well, can't sit and enjoy it? well, i can't sit back. me to deliver back. they expect me to deliver every always it's every time. so it's always it's always hard graft. you know, the, with the, the gigging goes. but with that get to it that song i mean you get to it and there's a buzz about it and there's an energy and they love it. waiting for it's it. they're waiting for it. it's the so so there are the biggest one. so so there are others pack that that others in the pack that that they, appreciate they, they appreciate and respond to. >> you just finished >> kenny, you just finished a great, successful tour. was great, successful tour. i was seeing footage seeing some of the footage online. absolutely online. you were absolutely brilliant. one the things i brilliant. one of the things i noticed, and it's rare, but noticed, um, and it's rare, but your voice has gotten even better now than it was back then. and it was great back then, but all of a sudden you're heanng then, but all of a sudden you're hearing you live and it's like,

yes, kenny. yeah. >> i mean, where the conversation remember a long time ago after i did that thing with gary barlow online? yeah, that's right. didn't you that's right. didn't we say you know, known what you know, you're known for what you did in your 20s? did when you were in your 20s? i was 21, 22, 23 when i was having those hits. and then obviously with singing, as with soul singing, especially as the you sort the years go on, you do sort of learn your profession a bit better than you it back better than you knew it back then. and become bit then. and you become a bit better at providing you better at it, providing you preserve voice and look preserve your voice and look after i'm singing after yourself. and i'm singing stuff same and stuff in the same keys and that's not always but um, that's not always easy. but um, as get older, but certainly as you get older, but certainly i yeah, i think you just i think, yeah, i think you just learn you're doing. my learn what you're doing. and my approach been that approach has always been that i'm i'm always still learning. it's always said it's still a i've always said i'm going long way it's still a i've always said i'm gointhere's long way it's still a i've always said i'm gointhere's a long way because there's a long way to go. >> know, but you are still >> you know, but you are still touring. >> you've got tour next, next >> you've got a tour next, next yeah >> you've got a tour next, next year. i believe 2024 is going to be a big year for you. >> in may that's doing >> so in may that's doing ipswich and buxton and can't ipswich and buxton and i can't remember of my memories remember the list of my memories of you're doing a few in essex >> you're doing a few in essex i've over. i've seen all over. >> and then and >> i think there's and then and then do that tour that's more then we do that tour that's more regional and then october, november we hit the

november we start to hit the bigger places. you know, your cliffs , southend, your cliffs pavilion, southend, your palladium, london. >> that's great. yeah. so okay, so now when doing the so now when you're doing the performances now back then obviously you're worried about being number one. number two or whatever getting to the top of the charts. now when you're doing it, you a much doing it, do you have a much more approach because more relaxed approach because you're thinking, actually, i get to labour of work . to enjoy the labour of my work. >> yeah, yeah, i think it's reversed because back then you was you geared the was you was geared up and the record company pressure on record company pressure was on to hits and, record company pressure was on to ultimately hits and, record company pressure was on to ultimately now hits and, record company pressure was on to ultimately now yous and, record company pressure was on to ultimately now you are d, record company pressure was on to ultimately now you are just, but ultimately now you are just, you know, doing the touring and enjoying you do . your enjoying doing what you do. your musician the day. it's not musician in the day. it's not that it's kind of like fame things window. you're things out the window. you're just really in your just really focusing in on your on work and your book. on your work and your book. >> my which i've >> baring my soul, which i've read, which absolutely love, read, which i absolutely love, sir, um, is it baring your soul? >> it is. yeah it's not an average, normal pop memoir. it's really sort of the story of the 90s, of course. and the beginnings and the rock and roll, crazy stuff, but also roll, the crazy stuff, but also the bits where i disappeared and why what why i disappeared and what was going in normal life. people

going on in normal life. people will to there's, you will relate to it. there's, you know, an interesting book know, it's an interesting book and highs lows , you and with highs and lows, you know, a boxer and know, and you were a boxer and a bt technician before you were a singer, right? i was an intelligent enough to be a bt technician. worked in what technician. i worked in what you'd um, you'd call probably, um, it these worked at these days i worked at computers, , um, still computers, so, um, still better than could than what i could do. >> boxing. than what i could do. >> my boxing. than what i could do. >> my father]. than what i could do. >> my father was a pro, an ex pro, he ran a boxing club pro, and he ran a boxing club for over 30 years at alexandra palace in north london. so i had over 50 fights from the age of, well, age right up well, young age eight, right up to and then i had to my early 20s. and then i had to my early 20s. and then i had to so buy records or to stop. so buy your records or you them out. you will knock them out. >> yeah , you knock me out . >> yeah, you knock me out. >> yeah, you knock me out. >> good shade. >> good shade. >> kenny. absolutely wonderful. can you sing us a couple of lines? which one to sing us out? ah, thinking about your life, your hurt. >> i'm hurting too. and i'm thinking about your love. if you need to care for, i'll need someone to care for, i'll be there . you should know i'll be there. you should know i'll never change. cause i'm thinking about your love tonight , today about your love tonight, today and all ways. whoa

>> that's. i mean, that's what i mean. >> kenny, you sound incredible . >> kenny, you sound incredible. thank you so, so much. so much on the show. >> thank you. yeah, and a massive thank you to you guys at home for joining massive thank you to you guys at home forjoining us on our home for joining us on our saturday morning live. we've loved it, haven't we? >> a great same time. >> it's been a great same time. >> it's been a great same time. >> next week. do join . us. >> next week. do join. us. >> next week. do join. us. >> for a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. we've got quite a slow moving weather setup over the this weekend. the course of this weekend. systems rooted in place. high pressure south of the uk pressure to the south of the uk and trailing weather system and this trailing weather system that's fringing the far that's fringing into the far northwest scotland some northwest of scotland, some quite isobars in quite tightly spaced isobars in between that. so it is quite a blustery day, particularly for the half the uk. the northern half of the uk. gales in places gales around in places that moist southwesterly also moist southwesterly airflow also feeding a lot of cloud. feeding in quite a lot of cloud. a few breaks for parts of yorkshire, lincolnshire generally to east of higher

generally to the east of higher ground, further towards the south—east staying south—east as well staying relatively a mild day relatively dry. it is a mild day with those southwesterly winds. temperatures notably above average for the time of year, holding around 10 to 12 c. holding up around 10 to 12 c. further to the west . there will further to the west. there will be drizzly outbreaks be some drizzly outbreaks throughout and into this throughout today and into this evening, the persistent evening, but the most persistent rain be northwest rain will be across northwest scotland yellow scotland and there is yellow rain then scotland and there is yellow rain amber then scotland and there is yellow rain amber into then scotland and there is yellow rain amber into sunday then scotland and there is yellow rain amber into sunday morning. turns amber into sunday morning. persistent rainfall falling here could provide some localised flooding and disruption. it's going to be a mild night underneath cloud, underneath all that cloud, particularly northern areas particularly for northern areas of scotland, holding up around particularly for northern areas of orotland, holding up around particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. d, holding up around particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. that lding up around particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. that is ng up around particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. that is about around particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. that is about 9'ound particularly for northern areas of or 11 c. that is about 9 to nd 10 or 11 c. that is about 9 to 10 or 11 c. that is about 9 to 10 degrees above average for the time persistent time of year. that persistent rainfall then rooted in place throughout sunday across western scotland. potential for flooding in places widespread disruption, even some landslides due to that persistent amount of rainfall, eventually spreading its way southwards parts of southwards into parts of northern southwest northern ireland, southwest scotland, across scotland, but elsewhere across england generally scotland, but elsewhere across englancdry. generally scotland, but elsewhere across englancdry. once ienerally scotland, but elsewhere across englancdry. once again.ly staying dry. but once again another mild day . temperatures, another mild day. temperatures, though, will slowly drop their way we head into the new way off as we head into the new working week, with the weather systems working week, with the weather

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