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took place when he was editor. what's dukes battle what's next for the dukes battle with the press and do get in touch. send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or message me really, really simple. we're at gb news but first here is the actual news headlines with the lovely ray addison . lovely ray addison. >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. 12:01. our top stories this houn 12:01. our top stories this hour. rishi sunak is set to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration with italy's right wing prime minister, giorgia meloni . the meeting, which is meloni. the meeting, which is taking place in rome, comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats. that brings the total this year to 29,500. the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration, border security expert henry bolton told us he needs to find a practical solution in. >> i think it is a bit of a

gimmick and i worry that everybody or governments, parliament and politicians, the media, the public has become fixated on rwanda . we shouldn't fixated on rwanda. we shouldn't be. there are a whole range of other risks out there as well as immigration. there's all the cocaine, all the heroin, 97% of the illegal firearms that enter the illegal firearms that enter the that are in this country have entered across our borders. and rwanda won't work. i'm absolutely convinced rwanda will not do what the government says it will do. >> hms diamond has shot down a suspect armed attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea . defence secretary the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says the target was destroyed overnight with a sea viper missile. destroyed overnight with a sea viper missile . the ship recently viper missile. the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . well, the prime security. well, the prime minister has paid tribute to the emir of kuwait, sheikh nawaf, who has died at the age of 86. rishi sunak described him as a great friend of the uk who will be remembered fondly for his work to promote stability in the

middle east. he was defence minister when iraq invaded the country in 1990. he became ruler of the small, oil rich state in 2020, working to ease political deadlock and promote national unity . the met police says it unity. the met police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group news papers over several years . prince harry over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability . for truth and accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation . british ongoing investigation. british schoolboy alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk this weekend. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the

spiritual commune, where he was living with his mum . alex's living with his mum. alex's grandmother, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited. charlie hedgesis them to be reunited. charlie hedges is a missing persons expert . he told hedges is a missing persons expert. he told us hedges is a missing persons expert . he told us alex made expert. he told us alex made a difficult choice. >> what's unusual is that he's been from that young age with them for so long and suddenly decided , i don't want to be here decided, i don't want to be here anymore. i want to make my own life, which is brilliant and odd, and it smacks of him being in capable position in a much more capable position of dealing with it. whereas some children these situations and children in these situations and they're uncommon they're not that uncommon and become by the become so brainwashed by the other parent that they don't really know what to do and don't understand , and what understand, and what alternatives . alternatives there are. >> hundreds protested in tel aviv last night after israel's military admitted mistakenly killing three israeli hostages being held in gaza. the idf says troops opened fire after jotunheim sur mer, tahalka and alok sharma were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the

7th of october. the idf is now promising full transparency while they investigate the incident . donald trump's former incident. donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani , is to lawyer rudy giuliani, is to appeal after being ordered to pay appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers wandrea shaye moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages , including of racist messages, including threats of lynching and were forced to relocate. giuliani falsely claimed that he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence , and described the evidence, and described the payout as absurd . the rac says payout as absurd. the rac says petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded petrol now costs an average of 142.5 £0.07. that's a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have

not fallen . the news comes not fallen. the news comes dunng not fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of the year on the roads, with experts saying that prices should continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas . vaping products were christmas. vaping products were the fastest growing grocery category this year, reaching almost £900 million in sales, according to research by nick and the grocer. it's the second yearin and the grocer. it's the second year in a row that they've topped industry data. that's despite the pm saying that the government would act to kerb vaping among young people. meanwhile, purchases of cigarettes, cigars and loose tobacco have all fallen sharply . tobacco have all fallen sharply. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to dawn . let's get straight back to dawn. >> thank you very much . right >> thank you very much. right now, let's get straight into today's topic, shall we? right rishi sunak will today hold

joint talks with the leaders of italy and albania in rome to try and thrash out a common approach to tackling illegal immigration. dufing to tackling illegal immigration. during the trip , the prime during the trip, the prime minister will also attend an event organised by giorgia meloni brothers of italy party, in which elon musk is also expected to attend. this comes in the same week that the governments controversial safety of rwanda bill passed its second reading in parliament, just despite opposition from labour and the abstentions and several conservative mps abstaining . now conservative mps abstaining. now joining us now to drill down into this story, it just carries on and on, doesn't it? this one, let's talk to gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson . hello, nigel. thank you nelson. hello, nigel. thank you for joining us. good afternoon forjoining us. good afternoon to you. um, nigel, tell us about what is actually meant to be happening in italy this weekend , happening in italy this weekend, what it's described as a right wing festival . wing festival. >> well, yes, that's right . >> well, yes, that's right. >> well, yes, that's right. >> um, it is a sort of, uh, a sort of party event for for,

italy and the, the albanian prime minister will also be there. >> but the big thing for rishi sunakis >> but the big thing for rishi sunak is that with both of them present, it'll mean that he can have a chat with them about their, uh , migration problems . their, uh, migration problems. and at the moment, italy is trying to do a deal with albania, which would mean that 36,000 migrants coming across from africa to would be processed in albania. >> uh, and that will cost the hauans >> uh, and that will cost the italians about £200 million a yeah >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. so >> okay. so i >> okay. so i mean, >> okay. so i mean, how politically align and, um, are the three political leaders that are going to be meeting at this event ? event? >> well, it seems that rishi sunak gets on very well with giorgia meloni . i mean, she giorgia meloni. i mean, she seems to be the one european leader . leader. >> he's got a real rapport with, uh, despite the fact that she is she is pretty right wing . on the she is pretty right wing. on the other hand, the albanian, uh, prime minister edi rama is

rather left wing . so i don't rather left wing. so i don't think there'll be a great deal of meeting of minds. there uh, but all three of them are trying to sort out how you deal with with migration for italy, it's a much bigger problem than we've got. uh they've had 150,000 migrants crossing over by boat from africa so far this year. so that's where they'll be looking to find some common ground. >> and as you say, 153,000 migrants making landfall in italy . and the deal they're italy. and the deal they're setting up with albania is a processing camp, isn't it? the sort of things that we seem to have enormous problems doing . have enormous problems doing. how has this gone down in italy ? how has this gone down in italy? are the italian public in favour of this ? of this? >> uh, broadly they are, but there's still opposition to it. um, and the, the italians have been at great pains to explain it's not the same as the rwanda policy, as you've just said, dawn, these are a couple of processing centres where what

happens is that migrants will go over to albania . the plan is over to albania. the plan is about 3000 a month. they will be processed there by italian officials under italian law . and officials under italian law. and if their asylum claim is granted, they they can then go back and live in italy. that's distinct from the rwanda plan , distinct from the rwanda plan, which obviously means that if migrants end up in rwanda , they migrants end up in rwanda, they don't come back here. >> so, okay, the $64,000 question here, nigel, is why don't we do something like this ? don't we do something like this? >> well, we could do , um, i >> well, we could do, um, i mean, i wonder if rishi sunak will be exploring that with the albanians. so certainly that the moderates and the tory party would be a lot happier with a scheme like that than sending people to rwanda to, um, but again, even this is running into difficulties that it was blocked this week by albania's constitutional court . they're

constitutional court. they're worried about italian law operating in albania to means that there's a there's a loss of sovereignty there . and giorgia sovereignty there. and giorgia meloni is promised to get this off the ground by spring. similar to rishi sunak to get rwanda off the ground by spring. doesn't look like it'll happen now with the with all the delays . um, but yes, it's certainly something that's worth exploring. we have a returns deal with albania, which has seen migrants , albanian migrants seen migrants, albanian migrants crossing the channel down by 90. so there may well be scope for some kind of deal. >> okay. and the other issue i think i'm sure is going to be talking about is we have an estimated 1700 organised albanian, um, crime gang members in the uk at the moment. do you think this is something that'll be on the agenda with them as well? >> it is on the agenda. that's that's the other thing they're going talking the going to be talking about. the whole of crime, whole issue of, uh, of crime, especially from albania , um, is especially from albania, um, is on the agenda for talks . uh,

on the agenda for talks. uh, they'll be talking about the people smugglers. some of them are albanian, too, and how the best ways of stopping them . so best ways of stopping them. so really, it's a kind of if you like, it's a sort of migration summit . uh, like, it's a sort of migration summit. uh, at the moment. >> interesting. well, hopefully we will get something out of it that's positive rather than the infighting at the moment, because it has been a very tncky because it has been a very tricky week for rishi, hasn't he? and he must be absolutely exhausted, as we all are. i should by the whole should think, by the whole thing. uh, nigel nelson, thank you joining us you very much for joining us there, explaining what is going on rome with the meeting of on in rome with the meeting of minds migrant minds over solving the migrant crisis. now, for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, you can go to our brilliant website, which is gbnews.com. now after rishi sunak gained a major victory this week, a major victory is probably strong in it a bit by securing parliamentary support for the second reading of his rwanda bill, the scheme looks one becoming a one step closer to becoming a reality dodi. but many still believe the policy will do

nothing to stop people smugglers or boats . as sunak or stop the boats. as sunak claims, the scheme will and it's been branded a gimmick, hasn't it? basically an expensive one at that. now joining me now is political commentator lettice bronowski and former labour mp simon danczuk. there you both are. thank you very much for joining me . now, we've just had joining me. now, we've just had nigel explain what is going on in rome with rishi sunak this afternoon . um, do you think afternoon. um, do you think we're actually going to get anything out of this? will we ever solve this eternal problem with the rwanda? let us. let's come to first. you come to you first. what do you make this ? make of this? >> completely think it's a >> i completely think it's a cruel gimmick. you know, i think this is all about optics. and there is no way that we'll be getting anything out this. getting anything out of this. because nothing because this bill does nothing to the real issues of to address the real issues of illegal migration that are gripping our country. illegal migration that are gripping our country . currently, gripping our country. currently, rwanda is saying that they will only be able to take in the initial around 200 initial phases. around 200 migrants since 2022, we migrants per year since 2022, we had 75,000 people cross the channel. so that 200 migrants,

that they'll be willing to take won't even scrape the surface of the problem that we have here. and if they think it will act as a deterrent, you know, it just won't, because the reality is that their odds are still very much in their favour, that they'll be able to stay in this country. um, but i think it does. yeah >> i was gonna say, simon, lettuce does have a point there, doesn't she? i mean, it is it's been described as a gimmick. but the one thing everybody does know that it's expensive. know is that it's expensive. it's costing £170,000 per migrant. doesn't have any migrant. she doesn't have any point at all. >> reality is, she can't >> the reality is, she can't know what, uh, nor the facts that she's purporting . that she's purporting. >> truth is that it could >> the truth is that it could well work as solution. i think well work as a solution. i think it's smart to what's it's a smart solution to what's a difficult problem. and if a very difficult problem. and if she's not supporting this, then she's not supporting this, then she's effectively supporting the people smugglers and the drowning of innocent illegal immigrants. that's the reality. because if you don't support this, if you don't try and turn people back not to get on the boats, then then you are

effectively supporting the people smugglers, bringing people smugglers, bringing people to britain, some of whom drown . and that's the drown. and that's the consequence of your other commentators policy , at least commentators policy, at least the rwandan solution stops people, discourages people from crossing the channel. and that's the purpose of it. that's the business model. >> it doesn't do that at all. first of all, well, you can't know that. >> it doesn't do that. >> it doesn't do that. >> you're quite harsh accusation that she's supported people drowning in the channel. what do you to lettuce. well you like to say? lettuce. well first the rwanda policy first of all, the rwanda policy doesn't people crossing the doesn't stop people crossing the channel doesn't stop people crossing the chaltlel doesn't stop people crossing the chait only deals with the issue >> it only deals with the issue once. already in this once. they are already in this country, we've already spent country, and we've already spent £290 million pounds on this problem. and not one migrant has gone over to rwanda. but but how do you know that it won't stop people crossing the channel? >> do you know that it will >> how do you know that it will not stop people crossing the channel >> the £290 million could have been spent instead on creating an elite workforce . to go and an elite workforce. to go and track down these gangs, track down these people so that they

can no longer start putting them into boats. that would have been you're answering point. you're not answering the point. >> how do you know that will you're not answering the point. >> discourager know that will you're not answering the point. >> discourage peoplethat will you're not answering the point. >> discourage people from will not discourage people from crossing channel because crossing the channel because the odds are very much in their favour, if only 200 migrants can be taken to rwanda, and we're seeing over 75,000, 30,000 this year coming in alone . year coming in alone. >> so you're just guessing. >> so you're just guessing. >> so you're guessing you're building your policy on the bafis building your policy on the basis of guesswork. why don't we try? why don't we try this solution? the reality is that you support open borders . that's you support open borders. that's that's the truth of it. you're happy for people to come here. that's the truth of the matter, isn't it? >> the truth of it is that i support the principle that we need to do something this need to do something about this issue. so. we have too issue. very much so. we have too much illegal migration to this country. but this will not work. and not least of all this bill is never going to get through . is never going to get through. it's come up against such resistance only at the second reading, which is where you're only to the only meant to discuss the principle of bill. it's principle of the bill. it's still got to go through committee stage and then on to

the of lords. the house of lords. >> policy is to support >> your policy is to support your policy then, is to allow people smugglers to decide who can and who cannot not come into britain. that's what your policy supports. mine suggests that we introduce the rwandan policy that discourages people from paying that discourages people from paying people smugglers. so that they don't come to britain in they don't come to britain in the first place. it's about discouragement. it's about breaking up the people smugglers business model. you're in support of keeping it. >> it hasn't done that at all. to this stage, there is no evidence. >> it hasn't done it because it hasn't been implemented yet, and it's not going to be implemented because people like you are trying it . trying to stop it. >> simon. lettuce does have a point, though. i mean, the bill is struggling already. it's going to go to the lords. they are going to throw it back continually ask for it to be tweaked. um, you know , it's tweaked. um, you know, it's going a long time to get going to take a long time to get this bill off the ground. meanwhile people are going this bill off the ground. memakeile people are going this bill off the ground. memake that people are going this bill off the ground. memake that crossingle are going this bill off the ground. memake that crossing onare going this bill off the ground. memake that crossing on the joing boats. >> you're exactly right, dawn. this is about the will of the

people. of people. the majority of the people. the majority of the people think is a good people think this is a good policy want illegal policy and want illegal immigrants stopping from coming policy and want illegal imsmall1ts stopping from coming policy and want illegal imsmall boats.)ping from coming policy and want illegal imsmall boats. it'sg from coming policy and want illegal imsmall boats. it's about coming policy and want illegal im small boats. it's about the ning in small boats. it's about the will of the people, and it's about sovereignty of about the sovereignty of parliament. and it's for the parliament. and it's for the parliament to decide , not parliament to decide, not judges, left wing lawyers or social commentators to decide who comes into this country. it's for the parliament, parliament to decide. so ultimately, rishi sunak has to get the legislation through and make it work. >> simon, i would say though, it's a very expensive policy , it's a very expensive policy, isn't it? we've already given it away under 140 million. we're about to give them million about to give them 15 million more we accept more in return. we accept rwandans are , you know, as part rwandans are, you know, as part of the deal . rwandans are, you know, as part of the deal. um, it rwandans are, you know, as part of the deal . um, it doesn't seem of the deal. um, it doesn't seem that it makes a lot of financial sense. >> it's not as expensive as your other commentators open borders policy, where we put everybody in expensive hotels costing absolutely millions upon millions every day of the year. >> to be fair to lettuce, i didn't actually hear her say that, but i did not say that at

all. >> and going back to your previous point, you're saying that this is something that they've through they've got to get through parliament for the will of the people? poll from people? well, a yougov poll from this than 1% of them this week, less than 1% of them of this public don't actually believe policy believe that this policy is going through. mean, going to get through. i mean, rishi tearing rishi sunak is even tearing himself apart own party himself apart in his own party that they're not supporting this. it's not supported by the left. it's not supported by the right, and it's not supported by the public. >> lettuce. i just would ask you that. i mean, the nightmare that the conservative party have with this to be very this is going to be very possibly , um, keir starmer's possibly, um, keir starmer's nightmare , um, you know, in nightmare, um, you know, in a few months time and we haven't actually heard from the labour party what their plans are . party what their plans are. >> no, we haven't at all. and i think that's simply because they don't need to. the conservatives are taking up all the for space fighting, infighting, tearing themselves apart, going to war over this . labour doesn't need over this. labour doesn't need to even say anything at this point. and frankly , keir starmer point. and frankly, keir starmer hasn't. but they don't need to say anything for them to start winning simply by

winning people's votes simply by the over winning people's votes simply by the conservative over winning people's votes simply by the conservative party over the conservative party >> simon, you are a former labour mp . i mean, you know, labour mp. i mean, you know, never complain, never explain . i never complain, never explain. i mean, is that keir starmer's policy on this one? never policy on this one? he's never going until he going to say anything until he gets then and then gets elected. and then and then who knows what he'll oh, who knows what he'll do. oh, i think is. think it is. >> i think it's a very poor policy. i'm very disappointed in keir starmer in relation to illegal immigration. and the policy have or policy that they have is more or less the less identical to the conservatives but without the rwandan policy , the, uh, the rwandan policy, the, uh, the conservatives are already trying to strengthen the borders and the policing of the borders, etc. yeah, that's all he's proposing. plus he's suggesting giving more money in foreign aid to, developing countries. i to, uh, developing countries. i don't support that at all. it does need to be something significant. i think the rwanda policy is the nearest we've got . policy is the nearest we've got. i think we heard some interesting solutions in terms of albania , uh, and italy. of albania, uh, and italy. i think that's with exploring. but we have to take some decisive action on these issues. and at the moment, the rwanda policy is the moment, the rwanda policy is the only one on the table. >> lettuce. what do you make of,

um, italy's, uh, migrant solution with these processing camps in albania , which they camps in albania, which they plan to process 36,000 at 36,000 migrants, a year. and they are they are having as many problems as we are with illegal migration. what do you make of what they've done? >> i think, well, first and foremost, again, we're going to have to see if that even gets through it has been through because it has been stopped the albanian stopped in the albanian government moment. government at the moment. um, i think the, idea of think that the, the idea of processing and speeding up the processing and speeding up the processing powers that we have is one of the main solutions to this problem . um, we can't have this problem. um, we can't have people waiting for months and months to paying £8 million months to here paying £8 million a day to house them in hotels. that not a way forward. that is just not a way forward. so if italy can this over so if italy can get this over the there's something that the line, there's something that can that that can be learned from that that will but we've will be worthwhile. but we've got if they can get it got to see if they can get it over the line first. >> and ultimately , i think the >> and ultimately, i think the next step, if don't get this next step, if we don't get this through parliament still through parliament and it still doesn't have doesn't work, we will have to leave the european on leave the european convention on human rights. that's what's human rights. if that's what's stopping introducing human rights. if that's what's

stoppolicy introducing human rights. if that's what's stoppolicy , introducing human rights. if that's what's stoppolicy , then introducing human rights. if that's what's stoppolicy , then that'sucing human rights. if that's what's stoppolicy , then that's what this policy, then that's what we'll have to do. and that will be the will of the people. you'll test that and a majority will leave lettuce. you'll test that and a majority wilido leave lettuce. you'll test that and a majority wilido you leave lettuce. you'll test that and a majority wilido you think e lettuce. you'll test that and a majority wilido you think that'srce. you'll test that and a majority wilido you think that's az. >> do you think that's a sledgehammer crack a nut, sledgehammer to crack a nut, leaving european leaving the whole, um, european court human rights? court of human rights? >> i think once again >> i think we are once again just about just talking about impossibilities here. the conservatives are out of time to do these the next do these things. the next general is going to be general election is going to be potentially summer. maybe potentially in summer. maybe in the you know, these are the winter. you know, these are these are all sort of impossibilities. they have no more time left to push such things so i mean, you things through. so i mean, you know, the what the italians have done as you said, lettuce there are there are problems with it, but it does seem to make sense . but it does seem to make sense. >> simon, why can't we just >> so, simon, why can't we just do something like that? it seems to be legally more accessible than the rwanda plan. >> it looks like an interesting solution. i'm sure. richard sunak will be looking at it whilst he's over meeting the italian prime minister. one of the solution is to turn the boats around, which they've done successfully in australia. but the difference there is that

there's much more sea between where the illegal immigrant immigrant are coming from and australia itself . so you have australia itself. so you have more space to do that. we're in a channel, so that's a very narrow channel, so that's extremely difficult. these extremely difficult. but these are solutions that we will are the solutions that we will have to face. and whilst lettuce is saying there's a general election up, there is election coming up, there is there much time left. but there isn't much time left. but once power and once labour get in power and they tackle this they fail to tackle this solution and they surely will, then public, i think, will then the public, i think, will jolt to the right and pick a much more right wing government. is as is happening across europe at the moment, and labour could well implode whilst in government on this very issue. and then we'll see a jolt to the right. i think it's almost inevitable. >> what do you make that lettuce. >> you say that. but we look back at previous 13 years and not one government has managed not one government has managed not one government has managed not one conservative government has managed handle this has managed to handle this situation . you know, we had situation. you know, we had david cameron saying he'd get it down to of thousands. and down to tens of thousands. and we're the hundreds of we're into the hundreds of thousands this so and thousands at this point. so and that's there are far too that's because there are far too many conservatives in many moderate conservatives in

the parliamentary party. >> and if there were some more , >> and if there were some more, uh, uh, enthusiastic about tackling this issue, then there would have been more successful at tackling it. but they haven't been. you're absolutely right. at tackling it. but they haven't bee now u're absolutely right. at tackling it. but they haven't bee now the absolutely right. at tackling it. but they haven't bee now the conference right. at tackling it. but they haven't bee now the conference thatt. at tackling it. but they haven't bee now the conference that rishi >> now the conference that rishi sunakis >> now the conference that rishi sunak is at this afternoon on previous guests at the festival have included donald and have included donald trump and the leader. so it the hungarian leader. so it really is a fair description to call it a right wing. um conference meeting . do you think conference meeting. do you think it will do? um rishi sunak's reputation any good attending this event? lettuce i mean, he's he's the leader of our country. >> he must attend these sort of international events. i don't think that it will do his reputation any damage to be attending these events. like you say , want to be working with say, we want to be working with these international these other international leaders on how they're going to handle situation. so handle this situation. so i think a good thing that think it's a good thing that we're from our partners. >> what about you, simon? do you think thing? think it's a good thing? >> think it is good >> yeah, i think it is a good thing. i think he's desperate to come up with solution, come up with a solution, isn't he? he's

he? we all agree that he's running out of time. we're running out of time. we're running up towards a general election. to that election. he has to show that he's action on he's took decisive action on this very going go this very issue. going to go into conference, meeting into this conference, meeting these people, coming up with alternative solutions. i think it makes absolute sense. >> there was just one final point. out of point. we are running out of time, unfortunately. i just want point. we are running out of tin saanfortunately. i just want point. we are running out of tin say there jnately. i just want point. we are running out of tin say there wasely. i just want point. we are running out of tin say there was ah i just want point. we are running out of tin say there was a report, want to say there was a report, i think it was earlier in the week from the camps in calais, where they interviewed . thing the they were interviewed. thing the again, i have to say , entirely again, i have to say, entirely young who were determined to young men who were determined to get to the uk lettuce. i mean, you know, it's you're accused of being racist if you say . yeah, being racist if you say. yeah, but a lot of them are only they're financial migrants rather than genuinely seeking asylum . um, what do you say to asylum. um, what do you say to that argument? i mean, they they were saying that the rwanda , um, were saying that the rwanda, um, echoing your sentiments, actually, they were saying that the deal wouldn't put the rwanda deal wouldn't put them trying to get to uk i >> -- >> yeah. i exam >> yeah. i think actually the solution to those sort of problems is much like we have agreed with albania , where you agreed with albania, where you can deport people very quickly who are not meant to be there

and who are not asylum seekers, and who are not asylum seekers, and send them back where they and send them back to where they came. plan that i think came. that's a plan that i think has worked well, and has worked really well, and i think would do government think it would do the government well plans well to set up similar plans with countries, you with other countries, but you can't deport them easily because they the passports away they throw the passports away unless rwandan unless you have a rwandan solution where you can then return them to a third country because they throw the passports away. >> that's a solution . you're >> that's a solution. you're absolutely majority absolutely right. the majority of illegal economic migrants. >> yeah, i mean that is do you do you agree with that lettuce? i mean, do you agree that most of are economic migrants of of them are economic migrants of the people coming over ? the people coming over? >> i do believe that, yeah. i do think that they are. and i think that that again comes down to our ability to process them and to move these things along faster, right now we're faster, because right now we're spending millions them spending millions housing them in or on the bibby in hotels or on the bibby stockholm or places that are just not suitable for this long terme housing. >> yeah. i think the one thing we can all agree on is the fact that it's costing us lot of that it's costing us a lot of money, whatever solution we try to find for it, that's simon danczuk and lettuce from there.

thank you very much for joining me afternoon. now you are me this afternoon. now you are watching listening to watching and listening to gb news with dawn news saturday with me. dawn neesom more coming up on neesom lots more coming up on today's should neesom lots more coming up on todtake should neesom lots more coming up on todtake a should neesom lots more coming up on todtake a look should neesom lots more coming up on todtake a look at should neesom lots more coming up on todtake a look at the should neesom lots more coming up on todtake a look at the weather? we take a look at the weather? that's with jonathan coming up now how. >> fl 9 i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey your gb news vautrey here of your gb news weather provided by the weather forecast provided by the met for those out doing met office. for those out doing some today, some christmas shopping today, there of cloud there is a fair amount of cloud to contend with. some of us may see some brighter breaks occasionally this occasionally throughout this afternoon, to afternoon, and holding on to some spells into this some clear spells into this evening and overnight, mainly across england across eastern parts of england down south as well a down into the south as well a touch the touch further towards the west, the will thick enough the cloud will be thick enough for of for some drizzly outbreaks of rain, most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain across parts rain will be across parts of northwest scotland and an amber weather into force weather warning comes into force on potential for on sunday, with potential for significant disruption. it will be a night underneath all be a mild night underneath all the as well. of the cloud as well. parts of scotland northern scotland and northern ireland only digit figures only up in double digit figures ten 11 c. as we start off the day that persistent rain then across western scotland throughout sunday, with the weather system stuck in place, allowing a month's worth of rain to fall the of the day. to fall by the end of the day. do take care because there could

be some flooding and landslides causing disruption. rain causing disruption. the rain will its way will eventually sink its way southwards parts of southwards into parts of northern but further towards southwards into parts of nor south but further towards southwards into parts of nor south andfurther towards southwards into parts of norsouth and eastar towards southwards into parts of norsouth and east you wards southwards into parts of norsouth and east you wills the south and east you will likely drier despite the likely stay drier despite the cloudy picture. again, another mild generally between mild day, generally between 9 and 13 c into monday. that weather system will gradually sink its way southwards further. so we'll start to see some of that rain pushing again into northern ireland. parts of northwest england into wales, in the far southwest of england as well seeing a spots well seeing a few spots and drizzles southeastern areas of england, driest . england, staying the driest. again, relatively and again, relatively cloudy and mild fresher mild here, but fresher conditions far conditions moving into the far northwest , that's going northwest, and that's going to allow slowly allow temperatures to slowly drop off as we head drop their way off as we head into start of the new into the start of the new working week. enjoy your day. bye you very much, bye bye. thank you very much, jonathan. >> i'm just waiting for the words christmas, aren't words white christmas, aren't you? coming up on you? now, lots more coming up on today's we'll the today's show. we'll have the latest royal drama latest on all the royal drama after harry won case after prince harry won his case against newspapers . against mirror group newspapers. all and much, much more to all that and much, much more to come. dawn neesom and you come. i'm dawn neesom and you are watching listening to gb are watching and listening to gb

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especially yours. gb news is the people's channel, britain's news channel. >> good afternoon. 1232 i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom . our addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. rishi sunak will discuss ways to tackle illegal migration with italy's right wing prime minister, giorgia meloni . the meeting, which is meloni. the meeting, which is taking place in rome, comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats that brings the total so far this year to

29,500. the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration . an tackle irregular migration. an idf official says. israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . israel's military says flag. israel's military says troops opened fire after jotunheim . samir talal and alon jotunheim. samir talal and alon shamriz were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf has promised full transport agency while they investigate royal navy destroyer hms diamond has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says the target was intercepted overnight with a sea viper missile. the warship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security. the met police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found prince harry was the victim of

phone hacking. the high court found that extensive hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years , newspapers over several years, the met saying that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation and british schoolboy alex batty who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk this weekend . the 17 year the uk this weekend. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he was living with his mum . you can get living with his mum. you can get more on all of those stories on our website gbnews.com. now let's get straight back to dawn . let's get straight back to dawn. thank you very much. >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me, dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now, the much loved bbc, bbc show question of sport, the world's longest running sports quiz, is coming to an end after bosses cited fund difficulties.

if you're wondering what's on the tv sports wise over christmas, my next guest has all the latest and it's normally a great sporting line—up over the holidays, isn't it? so let's get you in the mood by talking to the sports broadcaster the wonderful sports broadcaster and journalist aidan magee aiden .thank and journalist aidan magee aiden . thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. nice to dawn. it's to see you, dawn. yeah, it's good it? good to be here, isn't it? i mean, could be watching mean, we could be watching football somewhere, but we're not. >> we're sitting here talking about away, >> we're sitting here talking abiwe're away, >> we're sitting here talking abrwe're gonna away, >> we're sitting here talking abiwe're gonna get away, >> we're sitting here talking abiwe're gonna get today. so we're gonna get beaten today. >> about are are >> how about you? are we are playing wolves. yes >> how about you? are we are playguess wolves. yes >> how about you? are we are playguess where wolves. yes >> how about you? are we are playguess where i'mlves. yes >> how about you? are we are playguess where i'm going’es >> how about you? are we are playguess where i'm going to be. and guess where i'm going to be. i'm to be here. but i'd i'm going to be here. but i'd much be here. right. much rather be here. right. okay. so let's let's the important the important sports story of the day. of sport. day. a question of sport. >> yeah. i mean, let's not pretend the changes that pretend that the changes that were bbc, were recently made by the bbc, i.e. patrick or paddy i.e. putting in patrick or paddy mcguinness sam mcguinness and obviously sam quek, quite frankly, quek, who have quite frankly, i don't too people have quek, who have quite frankly, i don't of too people have quek, who have quite frankly, i don't of hugo�* people have quek, who have quite frankly, i don't of hugo monieheople have heard of hugo monieh >> a star name 14 >> not exactly a star name 14 caps england, think there caps for england, i think there are guaranteeing or they're banking on or banking everything on on or wagering paddy wagering everything on. paddy mcguinness turn mcguinness being the star turn and that and being the star quality that dragged towards the show. dragged people towards the show. but the fact is that i think the

audience now 730,000 on audience is now 730,000 on average, in 1987, yes. average, whereas in 1987, yes. okay. different time for channels as opposed to 600. but £19 million, 19 million people tuned in when princess anne was on with emlyn hughes. so different time altogether. but look , it hadn't been working for look, it hadn't been working for some time . the scheduling didn't some time. the scheduling didn't didn't help. i mean , it used to didn't help. i mean, it used to when i was a kid, you used to know that it was always on a certain i loved it, never answer the questions. yeah. certain time evening, time of the evening, on a certain whether was, you certain day, whether it was, you know, was always more know, but it was always more recently we didn't really know when it on. sometimes it when it was on. sometimes it would there'd be repeats on would be there'd be repeats on the morning. the early hours of the morning. so, uh, the issues around funding mentioned funding that you mentioned there, the issues around inflation, mean, people there, the issues around inflation at mean, people there, the issues around inflation at inflationeople there, the issues around inflation at inflation when it laughed at inflation when it came yesterday. think came out yesterday. but think about it, when it was a massive show, didn't have to show, they didn't have to actually pay for guests. that's how big was. how big it was. >> yeah, people. >> yeah, people. >> it flitted between london >> and it flitted between london and manchester well. mean, and manchester as well. i mean, part in the part of his heyday back in the 80s, part of his heyday back in the 805, it part of his heyday back in the 80s, it was in oxford, the oxford road studios the bbc 80s, it was in oxford, the oxmanchestethios the bbc 80s, it was in oxford, the oxmanchesteh but; the bbc 80s, it was in oxford, the oxmanchesteh but it's the bbc 80s, it was in oxford, the oxmanchesteh but it's now3bc in manchester. but it's now latterly media and latterly at media city and i think when they it there

think when they moved it there they, thought, okay, think when they moved it there the may thought, okay, think when they moved it there the may notiought, okay, think when they moved it there the may notiougall okay, think when they moved it there the may notiougall london we may not get all the london guests but man city guests we wanted, but man city up liverpool up there, up there, liverpool up there, everton united, lots of everton man united, lots of other in north west. other sport in the north west. it's sport it's a heartbeat for sport in this they just this country, but they just haven't to attract the haven't been able to attract the guests and the ones, the ones they want. they've got they really want. they've got agents and agents demanding big money and that's a problem for them as well. and it's timing as to that's do you think it that's the big do you think it was woke as well? was getting a bit woke as well? >> i mean, to sue >> i mean, i used to love sue barker it and it's like she barker on it and it's like she was a bit too old, a bit too white. maybe for them possibly. >> then it's the it was >> but then also it's the it was the well. wasn't the format as well. it wasn't just scheduling, was it just the scheduling, it was it was didn't even have was kind of you didn't even have to person to be on to be a sports person to be on there, which, know, it's there, which, you know, it's worth a try. but then it's the actual balance between actual the balance between banter, people might it, actual the balance between bantthe people might it, actual the balance between bantthe actualile might it, actual the balance between bantthe actualile miuh, it, actual the balance between bantthe actualile miuh, i it, actual the balance between bantthe actualile miuh, i think and the actual quiz. uh, i think it far removed from what it was too far removed from what it was too far removed from what it been five years it had been even five years before. sue barker only left in 2021, all the changes they've 2021, so all the changes they've made are very new made recently are are very new and just haven't and they just haven't worked. and football go and we've seen football focus go the sure the same way. i'm not sure football has much of a football focus has much of a future the or anywhere future on the bbc or or anywhere else, but it's not going be anywhere name anywhere else, not in the name of football but again,

of football focus. but again, they're competing with other other channels on terrestrial and cable and satellite cable and elsewhere. people, elsewhere. younger people, the younger audience, seem to consume things on their on their phones and their tablets and laptops, the laptops, etc. so that's the challenge that that it's up against confronts all against or that confronts all these shows sports these shows and bbc sports personality another these shows and bbc sports pers( i |ality another these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, another these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, a another these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, a very another these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, a very lameiother these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, a very lame lister these shows and bbc sports pers(| mean, a very lame list of one, i mean, a very lame list of contestants year. a couple one, i mean, a very lame list of co struggled year. a couple one, i mean, a very lame list of co struggled with'eah a couple one, i mean, a very lame list of co struggled with that.i couple of struggled with that. >> word sport and >> the word sport and personality. i know i know, i know and again haven't. know and again they haven't. >> tuesday night. i mean >> on tuesday night. i mean goodness know it was goodness me, i know it was always on sunday night, wasn't it one the it was one of the one of the showbiz, the jewel in showbiz, uh, the jewel in the in the network's crown. yeah. >> do think they could have >> do you think they could have parachuted? i don't know, gary lineker save the show. lineker in to save the show. >> remember lineker >> uh, i remember gary lineker presenting it. not that long >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut.g it. not that long >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut. yeah, ot that long >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut. yeah, niceiat long >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut. yeah, nice to long >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut. yeah, nice to see] >> uh, i remember gary lineker presebut. yeah, nice to see him ago, but. yeah, nice to see him earn his money, wouldn't it? >> 1.3 million. yes, 1.3 >> yeah. 1.3 million. yes, 1.3 million. or he to million. or is he going to go into you're already into politics or you're already into politics or you're already in knows. right. in politics? who knows. right. what got talk about what else we got to talk about the first female referee in the premiership. come on girls rebecca welch. >> i i remember back >> yeah i mean i remember back in two thousand and seven, i was at luton town and a lady called amy rayner running line. at luton town and a lady called amylutonar running line. at luton town and a lady called amyluton town running line. at luton town and a lady called amy luton town manager line. at luton town and a lady called amy luton town manager came1e. at luton town and a lady called amyluton town manager came in the luton town manager came in after the match and made some very disparaging remarks about

her performance . actually got on her performance. actually got on the of papers that the back page of the papers that day i was working for and, day that i was working for and, you know, it definitely you know, nowadays it definitely be but if you be on the front, but if you think two thousand and think that's two thousand and seven, we haven't think that's two thousand and severanyone we haven't think that's two thousand and severanyone frome haven't think that's two thousand and severanyone from anyven't think that's two thousand and severanyone from any woman, seen anyone go from any woman, go sideline, in go from the sideline, as in running to the middle . running the line to the middle. and we're going to see that. and rebecca somebody who is rebecca welch is somebody who is it's a cliche, but she it's not just a cliche, but she is actually blazing a trail because she's been fourth because she's been a fourth official at premier league match this first this season, which is the first time done that. time a woman has done that. she's taking charge of an fa cup match, she's been match, an efl match she's been on the on list for on the on the on the list for a number of years now. so she's doneit number of years now. so she's done it the hard way. she's not just parachuted in to tick done it the hard way. she's not ju box. parachuted in to tick done it the hard way. she's not ju box. part somebody to tick done it the hard way. she's not ju box. part somebody who's a box. this is somebody who's actually learned the game, and we to janie we were speaking to janie frampton, who is a fifa instructor a former referee instructor and a former referee herself, morning on their herself, this morning on their breakfast was breakfast show. and she was saying, expect saying, look, don't expect any a flurry come into the flurry of women to come into the game. now in of, in terms game. now in terms of, in terms of we're officially of where we're officially officiating concerned because officiating is concerned because it's job you it's a tough, tough job and you have your stripes and have to earn your stripes and people are going have to learn what what they need to know as quickly possible. but may quickly as possible. but it may not happen immediately.

>> have ear to the >> and you have your ear to the ground quickly because ground very quickly because we're time. oh, we're running out of time. oh, it's of time very it's running out of time very quickly. your ear to quickly. you have your ear to the about what the ground about what footballers the ground about what footithinking, it gone and thinking, how has it gone down with the men who actually play down with the men who actually play the sport and be told play the sport and will be told what by woman? what to do by a woman? >> to an agent this week >> i spoke to an agent this week who probably about 15 who has probably about 15 players on his book in players on his on his book in the top two divisions, and he said me , it won't be an issue said to me, it won't be an issue for players all. they'll for players at all. they'll probably temper some of for players at all. they'll probelanguage. temper some of for players at all. they'll probelanguage. you'll)er some of for players at all. they'll probelanguage. you'll probably of their language. you'll probably see respect. he see a bit more respect. but he was said to me we had was wrong, he said to me we had a similar conversation to what we it should have we just had. it should have happened ago. happened a long time ago. >> excellent. news. >> excellent. good news. go girl. thank you very much. aiden. okay. how aiden. right now. okay. how would like win £10,000 would you like to win £10,000 cash? new tech and cash? brand new tech and shopping needed shopping vouchers. much needed at time of year. well, you at this time of year. well, you could be the winner of our very first great british giveaway. here's details here's all the details of how you prizes. you could make those prizes. yours >> this is your chance to win three amazing prizes that will get your new year to off a great start. first, there's a terrific £10,000 in cash to won . be £10,000 in cash to won. be imagine what you could do with

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sunday mornings from 930 on gbillionews. who's . welcome back gbillionews. who's. welcome back to gbillionews saturday with me. >> dawn neesom on your tv, onune >> dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now let's talk about prince harry, shall we? um he is demanding a

fresh police investigation and a parliamentary inquiry into phone hacking. after his successful win against mirror group newspapers . but piers morgan, newspapers. but piers morgan, the former editor of the daily mirror, claims he has never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone and attacked the duke's recent spats with the royal family as disgraceful . now for more disgraceful. now for more reaction on this story. remember this only broke yesterday. former royal correspondent michael cole. there you are. good afternoon michael. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. okay. so we had the verdict yesterday that harry has our has basically won and been awarded um, damages . not as been awarded um, damages. not as much as i think he was hoping for, but so bring us up to speed on what's happened overnight and what reaction there has been to this story. the >> good afternoon don. yes, it's been interesting mixed been a very interesting mixed week for prince harry. first of all, archewell found nation, which is the main vehicle for their do goodery. uh, harry and meghan, uh, that recorded a half

£1 million loss. then hollywood reporter, which is the bible of showbusiness out in los angeles. uh, do prided brand sussex as a busted flush as something that was over, something that had nothing to offer , which will be nothing to offer, which will be very, very uncomfortable for meghan to accept . then, of meghan to accept. then, of course, we've had the last six episodes of the crown, which i must say depict, uh, prince harry as a teenager , as, um, a harry as a teenager, as, um, a very whiny individual, jealous of his brother. uh, smoke a lot of his brother. uh, smoke a lot of weed and relishing his role as being a disruptive influence . as being a disruptive influence. but as you say, he had a tremendous win yesterday , uh, in tremendous win yesterday, uh, in the high court , uh, in this case the high court, uh, in this case against mirror group newspapers and there's no disguising the fact that it was a victory for him and a vindication . uh, i

him and a vindication. uh, i think it is going to be the most significant moment for the popular press, the tabloid press in this country since the milly dowler case. if you remember that that poor, lovely little teenage schoolgirl in surrey who was abducted and murdered and, uh, journalists were hacking her phone, allowing her mother to think that she was still alive when, course, she was dead. when, of course, she was dead. uh, rupert murdoch , who owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the ert murdoch , who owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the news urdoch , who owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the news oroch , who owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the news of the , who owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the news of the world, owned, when, of course, she was dead. uh, the news of the world, said d, uh, the news of the world, said it was the most humane thing. humiliating. i think he said shameful moment of his life. and of course, the news of the world was shut down after 160 years after that, i was also one of the other people who was hacked by the news of the world that i just say that in passing. so prince harry, uh, issue a statement and it was quite clearly had his handwriting all over it, whether he dictated it or wrote it himself. and he, he described, uh, tabloid journalism as vendetta journalism. and it was very hard

hitting . and of course, piers hitting. and of course, piers morgan then came out and hit back very, very strongly , uh, back very, very strongly, uh, against that , uh, one of the against that, uh, one of the most surprising things to me is that piers morgan, who was the editor of the daily mirror at some of the time , uh, during some of the time, uh, during these events , allegedly took these events, allegedly took place, although he says very, uh, pointedly that only one of these alleged offences happened while he was in the editor's chair . piers while he was in the editor's chair. piers morgan has said that he wasn't called as a witness by either side in the case. and yet he was criticised quite roundly by mrjustice fancourt in in his judgement. i don't think that's fair and i don't think that's fair and i don't think that's fair and i don't think it's just so this has got a way to go. and prince harry, to use an equine expression , has certainly got expression, has certainly got his bit between his teeth. he's going for it with actions against associated newspapers, which owns the mail and the mail on sunday. and of course , on sunday. and of course, against news corp, which owns the sun. uh, yesterday he won

hands down another equestrian allusion, uh, and there is his barrister who read out his very trenchant statement at the end of it. i mean, he's not, uh, seven bells out of , um, out of seven bells out of, um, out of the mirror group newspaper , and the mirror group newspaper, and he's going on. there's no sign on his part that he's going to quit. in fact, he's stepping up the pace. >> michael , just one very, very >> michael, just one very, very quick question for you. we are running out of time. he has been harry has been accused of on a mission destroy the monarchy mission to destroy the monarchy and the tabloid press in particular in this country. do you agree with that ? you agree with that? >> well, that's what piers morgan said. and if you look at the book, 'spare, which was the biggest selling autobiography ever written, he says some very cruel and unkind things , uh, cruel and unkind things, uh, about his family in particular about his family in particular about queen camilla, about his sister in law, the princess of wales. and there you see harry and meghan in in happier times. uh, these are not helpful

remarks. and accusing anybody of racist , um, remarks. and accusing anybody of racist, um, is a very, very serious thing because, um , it's serious thing because, um, it's easy to make, but it's very hard to refute . you have to prove to refute. you have to prove a negative . and i think throwing negative. and i think throwing around epithets like racism is deplorable . uh, unless you're deplorable. uh, unless you're going to prepare , present the going to prepare, present the evidence as well . so i think he evidence as well. so i think he has done immense damage to the royal family by his attitude and by the statements and the interviews and the things he's written . but remember, dawn, uh, written. but remember, dawn, uh, the monarchy in this country, uh, goes back a thousand years, more or less uninterrupted . and more or less uninterrupted. and it suffered worse storms than this, and it will probably , uh, this, and it will probably, uh, come through, uh , making way come through, uh, making way with, with its, um, with its sails filled with wind and its banners, uh, flowing . banners, uh, flowing. >> michael, we have to leave it there. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. bring

us to date prince harry. us up to date on prince harry. thank very much. now. well, thank you very much. now. well, we're of time. uh, we're running out of time. uh, christmas days we're running out of time. uh, christ|we days we're running out of time. uh, christ|we really days we're running out of time. uh, christ|we really are days we're running out of time. uh, christ|we really are running out away. we really are running out of you're not ready. of time. and you're not ready. nor i are looking nor am i many are looking forward telly the forward to the telly over the festive period. going to festive period. we're going to be as well. remember be here as well. remember keeping this keeping you company and this year's strictly come year's season of strictly come dancing also concludes this weekend many to weekend, with many wanting to know seize that coveted weekend, with many wanting to know ball. seize that coveted weekend, with many wanting to know ball. joininge that coveted weekend, with many wanting to know ball. joining meat coveted weekend, with many wanting to know ball. joining me nowveted weekend, with many wanting to know ball. joining me now to ed glitter ball. joining me now to bnng glitter ball. joining me now to bring us up to speed on all of this is entertainment reporter hayley palmer looking, i have to say glitter yourself say, very glitter ball yourself looking absolutely stunning as usual. very short of usual. so we're very short of time, unfortunately. hayley okay, um, so let's start with strictly come dancing. yes. tonight i will be sitting in watching the final because who is going to get the glitterball trophy ? trophy? >> my money is on and i'm usually good with predictions. >> it's ellie and vito. >> it's ellie and vito. >> oh, i really think that they will win it for me. >> they're just gorgeous . and >> they're just gorgeous. and she hasn't had dance training . she hasn't had dance training. she was in coronation street , she was in coronation street, but she apparently has not been to a theatre school, which i think is good. so you've seen

the progression with her? uh, i think they're going get think they're going to get a mark of 40 tonight. i think they are going so put your are going to win. so put your money now . money on how. >> money on now. >> about bobby >> okay? what about bobby brazier? judy's little boy? he's only 20. >> adorable . and know, >> he's adorable. and i know, and think future is so and i think his future is so bright. know, he's been bright. he's you know, he's been an he's out an amazing model. he's come out of eastenders and he looks like a young mick jagger when he's performing. i just can't stop watching i think he's watching him. i think he's fantastic. i don't he's fantastic. i don't think he's going tonight. don't going to win tonight. i don't think is tonight. think his night is tonight. and then leighton then you've also got leighton and now , i do have an and nikita now, i do have an issue with this because i don't think it's fair that he is a professional dancer. no way is that fair. he's actually better than the pros. and i used to be a dancer. i used to have my own dance school. and i'm telling you now, his technique is superb . i can't help but watch them. >> but hayley, thank you so much. god, running out of much. oh, my god, running out of time. watching . listen to time. you're watching. listen to gb dawn neesom. gb news with me. dawn neesom. lots on today's lots more coming up on today's show. first, let's look the show. first, let's look at the weather jonathan. show. first, let's look at the weialer jonathan. show. first, let's look at the weia brighter onathan. show. first, let's look at the weia brighter outlook. boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb

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really simple at gb news. but first, here's the news headlines with ray addison . with ray addison. >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. it's 1:01. >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. it's1:01. our top >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. it's 1:01. our top stories >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. it's1:01. our top stories this houh it's1:01. our top stories this hour. rishi sunak is meeting with italy's prime minister, giorgia meloni , to discuss ways giorgia meloni, to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. the meeting in rome comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the engush after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats. that brings the total so far this year to 29,500. the prime minister is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration . tackle irregular migration. border security expert henry bolton told us. the pm needs to find a real solution . find a real solution. >> i think it is a bit of a gimmick and i worry that everybody or governments, parliaments , politicians, the parliaments, politicians, the media, the public has become fixated on rwanda . we shouldn't fixated on rwanda. we shouldn't be. there are a whole range of other risks out there, as well as immigration. then there's all

the cocaine, all the heroin , 97% the cocaine, all the heroin, 97% of the illegal firearms that enter the that are in this country have entered our country have entered across our borders . um, and rwanda won't borders. um, and rwanda won't work . i'm absolutely convinced work. i'm absolutely convinced rwanda will not do what the government says it will do. a royal navy destroyer has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea. >> defence secretary grant shapps says hms diamond hit the target overnight with a sea viper missile. target overnight with a sea viper missile . the warship viper missile. the warship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security , an idf maritime security, an idf official says. israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag. israel military says troops opened fire after jotunheim israel military says troops opened fire afterjotunheim , opened fire after jotunheim, samar, talcher and alon shamriz were i misidentify died as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf has promised full transparency while they investigate the met police says

it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking . the high court found hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years . newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability . the met says accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation . british schoolboy investigation. british schoolboy alex batty , who went missing six alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk this weekend . the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and his grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he'd been living with his mum. alex's grandmother , who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited and the prime minister has paid tribute to the emir of kuwait, sheikh nawaf , who has kuwait, sheikh nawaf, who has died at the age of 86. rishi sunak described him as a great

friend of the uk, who will be remembered fondly for his work to promote stability in the middle east. he was defence minister when iraq invaded the country in 1990. he became ruler of the small oil rich state in 2020, working to ease political deadlock and promote national unity . donald trump's former unity. donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani is to appeal after being ordered to pay appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers wandrea shaye moss and her mother , ruby freeman, her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages , including of racist messages, including threats of lynching, and were forced to relocate. giuliani falsely claimed that he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence , and described the play evidence, and described the play out as absurd . police have out as absurd. police have released cctv images of three men wanted for questioning after

graffiti relating to the israeli hamas conflict was sprayed onto an mps office. the constituency office of feryal clark, who's the mp for enfield north, was vandalised last month. police say they've examined cctv footage from the local area and are appealing for anyone with information on the men to contact them . the rac says contact them. the rac says petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years as a litre of unleaded now costs an average of 142.5 £0.07, a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . diesel prices have not fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of year on the roads, with experts saying that pnces roads, with experts saying that prices should continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas , vaping products to christmas, vaping products were the fastest growing grocery category this year, reaching almost £900 million in sales, to according research by nick and the grocer. it's the second year

in a row that they've topped industry data. that's despite the pm saying that the government would act to kerb vaping among young people . vaping among young people. meanwhile, purchases of cigarettes , cigars and loose cigarettes, cigars and loose tobacco have all fallen sharply . tobacco have all fallen sharply. this is gb news across the uk on television in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to dawn . now let's get back to dawn. >> thank you very much. right now, let's get straight into today's stories . rishi now, let's get straight into today's stories. rishi sunak is about to speak after holding joint talks with the leaders of italy and albania in rome to try and thrash out a common approach to tackling illegal immigration. dufing to tackling illegal immigration. during the trip, the prime minister will also attend an event organised by giorgio melonis brothers of italy party, in which elon musk is also expected to attend. this comes in the same week that the government's controversial safety of rwanda bill passed its

second reading in parliament, despite opposition from labour and many conservative mps actually abstaining on voting. joining us now to explain more and drill down into this story is gb news political correspondent, katherine forster. catherine, thank you very much for joining forster. catherine, thank you very much forjoining us forster. catherine, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . um, okay. so rishi is afternoon. um, okay. so rishi is out in rome talking to elon musk and our and albania and italy about sorting migration out. how's it going so far? >> well, we've seen the arrival shots of rishi sunak greeting giorgia meloni. they are great friends , i suppose as far as you friends, i suppose as far as you are friends with anybody in politics, they came in around the same time in october last year. the same time in october last year . they've both got young year. they've both got young daughters . they obviously get on daughters. they obviously get on well and they've got this huge shared problem in what to do about illegal migration. i'm not sure he's been meeting with giorgio meloni and the albanian

prime minister as well, talking about cracking down on illegal migration and specifically how to deal and get at the criminal gangs that are facilitating this. and elon musk is, i think, rather separate . he's at this rather separate. he's at this four day conference that giorgia meloni founded, actually, back in 1998. this sort of right wing festival , if you like. in 1998. this sort of right wing festival, if you like. he has been saying so far that basically europeans need to get back to having children because we know the population. >> an interesting way of sorting migration out is falling. >> well, i mean, in italy, italy has one of the lowest birth rates in the developed world. there's only 1.2 children per one eamonn. so they are very shortly going to have a big shortage of workers. but of course they want to control, as do we the people coming in. of course . and they i mean, we course. and they i mean, we think we've got problems with them. 29,000 people crossing the channel on small boats. it's a

long way from rishi sunak promised to stop the boats, isn't it ? but it's really isn't it? but it's really nothing compared to what they're deaung nothing compared to what they're dealing with in italy. they've had 150,000 people cross illegally just this year. that's double what it was. and places like lampedusa , the small island like lampedusa, the small island with a population of about 6000, they had 11,000 people arrived just in five days in september. so, you know, locals use the word invasion. suella braverman. the former home secretary got a huge amount of criticism for using that word regarding people coming here. but you can understand in italy this is a huge, huge topic. >> so what the italian plan to deal with this is to have a processing centre in albania. yeah >> and they're coming unstuck with that much in the same way as we see, um, to be coming unstuck with rwanda. i mean, who knows whether anybody is ever going to get on a plane. and we've already spent about, well, several home secretaries have to

be well, any person be 100 million. well, any person that we would like to send is coming legally. but but yes, coming legally. um, but but yes, so incredibly difficult for italy as well. and so there will be talking about these things. but yes, basically they had an agreement , italy and but yes, basically they had an agreement, italy and albania but yes, basically they had an agreement , italy and albania to, agreement, italy and albania to, to process, um, illegal migrants coming to italy. they wouldn't dock in italy, they would be sent directly to two processing centres in albania, where they would be processed by italian officials . now, that was officials. now, that was announced last month , but as of announced last month, but as of wednesday, that's come unstuck because a court in albania is concerned about the jurisdiction. basically italian sovereignty on albanian territory. that's now going to be reviewed in january . so be reviewed in january. so whether that will go ahead, we don't know. but i think it just emphasises how difficult these things are. and i mean, as the world gets hotter, the world

bank says there's going to be i think by 2050 , over 200 million think by 2050, over 200 million people on the move globally flee, leaving their homes . so flee, leaving their homes. so the chances are we're at the very beginning, really, of this crisis and many, many people, through war, through persecution, through climate change, through just wanting a better life, are going presumably to try to make their way to europe and it's important. >> no, no country seems to have the answer to it. do they know that is. that's absolutely scary. i'm talking of having the answer. i think, um, sir keir starmer this week said it's time for the tories to stand aside starmer this week said it's time for tlettories to stand aside starmer this week said it's time for tlet labouro stand aside starmer this week said it's time for tlet labour party d aside starmer this week said it's time for tlet labour party sortide starmer this week said it's time for tlet labour party sort out and let labour party sort out the small boats problem. did he actually explain how he was going to do it? >> well, i mean, traditionally, of course, the conservatives always been much tougher on migration. so a lot of people will instinctively not trust sir keir starmer. and of course , he keir starmer. and of course, he was a human rights lawyer and we've seen a lot of human rights lawyers intervene in the rwanda

plan. but they say they have a plan. but they say they have a plan . it's not that clear. but plan. it's not that clear. but they say they're going to crack down on the people smugglers at source. the government would say they're also trying to do that. labour would also say that they're going process people they're going to process people much , much quicker, get those much, much quicker, get those hotel bills but really hotel bills down. but really it's very unclear whether labour would do any better. and of course , they've already said course, they've already said that even if and i think it's a massive if people start being sent to rwanda, even if that's actually going ahead, if labour win the next election, they've said that they will scrap it. >> marvellous. happy christmas everybody. right. thank you very much. that's katherine forster they're bringing us up to date on what rishi doing rome they're bringing us up to date on vthe rishi doing rome they're bringing us up to date on vthe future doing rome they're bringing us up to date on vthe future foroing rome they're bringing us up to date on vthe future for illegal rome and the future for illegal immigration, which doesn't sound like actually got like anyone's actually got a plan, now, for all the plan, does it? now, for all the best analysis and opinion on that and much, much more, that story and much, much more, go our website, news.com go to our website, gb news.com now. okay, we've already mentioned the election word haven't we? um, according to a new opinion poll released this

week, labour now hold a whopping 17 point lead over the conservatives and reform uk are also continuing to eat into that conservative vote. if these polls are to be believed, the british public clearly want a change of governance, so . so change of governance, so. so irrespective of what the next general election is, are the tories toast? see, it's alliterations what we did there, uh, to debate this, i'm joined by former special adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley and trade unionist and broadcaster paul mbappe. thank you very much for joining me this afternoon, gentlemen . so now what what do gentlemen. so now what what do we are, the tories toast? i mean, it's a very, very simple question . i'm going to come to question. i'm going to come to you first on this one, charlie toast. that's not an offer for me to serve you toast, by the way. it's like, are the tories toast? >> um, no they're not. >> um, no they're not. >> mean , it's coming >> i mean, it's coming up to christmas . i >> i mean, it's coming up to christmas. i don't think people are paying too much attention to politics. >> there's been far too much politics. think over the last politics. i think over the last few years. so i think until the date of a general election is

called, country called, until the country knows when to be an when there's going to be an election. i think people election. i don't think people are of waiting are are really sort of waiting too much time thinking about it, but they've got a job to do. there's no doubt about it being behind um is not behind in those polls. um is not a place where anybody in the government or anybody in the conservative party to conservative party wants to be, but in they but the only way in which they are able to that by are able to pull that back is by recognising the five priorities that the prime minister set out, uh, at the start of this year, whether it's dealing with the economy , whether tackling economy, whether it's tackling the nhs and the backlog in the nhs and stopping those small boats, everything been everything that we have been talking the last talking about for the last couple once you on couple of weeks, once you get on top those things and top of some of those things and you move in the you start to see a move in the political weather, the public will, think , uh, look at you will, i think, uh, look at you again and say, okay, you've said what you're going do. you've what you're going to do. you've managed it. there are some managed to do it. there are some green of recovery in the green shoots of recovery in the economy, or are stopping the economy, or you are stopping the boats, boat boats, uh, you know, small boat crossings third. crossings down by a third. there's more to do. but when you start see positives, start to see those positives, the hopefully give the public will hopefully give you look. you a second look. >> excuse me. excuse me for carving. >> and by the way , but i think

>> and by the way, but i think it's also important to add because, you know , when we talk because, you know, when we talk about the polling. >> , tories very much >> yes, the tories are very much behind polls , but nobody behind in the polls, but nobody is actually , you know, is actually, uh, you know, saying polls that they saying in these polls that they want labour party because as want the labour party because as you from you were just hearing from catherine, no plan from you were just hearing from catilabour no plan from you were just hearing from catilabour party no plan from you were just hearing from catilabour party when)lan from you were just hearing from catilabour party when itin from you were just hearing from catilabour party when it comes the labour party when it comes to boat crossings . to the small boat crossings. there plan when it comes there is no plan when it comes to economy. uh, when it to the economy. uh, when it comes boat comes to the small boat crossings, actually, it's very similar government's crossings, actually, it's very similar put government's crossings, actually, it's very similar put so government's crossings, actually, it's very similar put so canernment's crossings, actually, it's very similar put so can the1ent's already put out. so can the pubuc already put out. so can the public and do the public actually trust keir starmer actually trust sir keir starmer and the labour party? the polling suggest that. polling does not suggest that. >> paul, let's >> interesting. uh, paul, let's come um, excuse come to you. um, sorry, excuse my everybody. it's the my voice, everybody. it's the man who i call my husband. i call though, call it a cold, though, obviously. um paul, let's come to tories toast . to you. tories toast. >> um, i think they certainly deserve to be toast. >> uh, in my view , they've >> uh, in my view, they've forfeited the right to govern . forfeited the right to govern. this is probably the most inept government, this sort of 2019 tory government is probably the most inept government that i've seen in my lifetime. and i think it's probably near impossible for the tories to win the next

election. um, but i don't detect i mean, i know some people are predicting an, uh, a landslide for the labour party. i don't detect that's going to happen. i don't see this as a kind of 1997 moment where everybody knew in advance that labour was likely to get a landslide. there was big affection for the labour party across the class , aces party across the class, aces across the country . i tend to across the country. i tend to agree with charlie on the point that there isn't the same kind of level of affection , ian, for of level of affection, ian, for starmer, as there was for blair, for starmer's labour party, as there was for blair's labour party. and do still think party. and i do still think actually, that where blair's labour party very much had the working class vote locked in, had the red wall locked in, i mean, the red wall in 1997 were never going to vote for anyone but labour. whilst starmer's labour party are doing better in places like scotland and the south. and they've got, you know, our fashionable cities and our university towns . and whilst our university towns. and whilst lots of people in the red wall

have abandoned the tories , the have abandoned the tories, the people who voted for the tories first time in 2019 have abandoned them because they feel betrayed by those betrayed by them. those particular voters, core particular voters, that core cohort doesn't seem in any great rush to, to, to flock back to the labour party. so whilst that remains the case, while the labour party hasn't sealed the deal with the red wall, who you know it would need to win if it's going to win power, then i don't think it's absolutely nailed on and it's certainly not nailed on and it's certainly not nailed on and it's certainly not nailed on that. they're going to have a substantial working majority, um, coming back to you, on this, we you, charlie, on this, we mentioned reform. >> got they're going up >> they've got they're going up in polls. they are actually in the polls. they are actually costing the conservative points in at the moment. in the polling at the moment. and could cost the and they could cost the conservatives 35 seats. if we do have a general election, how much of a danger do you think they actually are to rishi sunak ? >> well, 7- >> well, i ? >> well, i think, um emmm him ? >> well, i think, um , uh, much >> well, i think, um, uh, much like paul was saying, actually , like paul was saying, actually, you know, if you have a lack of confidence or a lack of affection for either sir keir

starmer or for the tories, then people will go to alternative parties. so how much of a risk is it that the public will vote for reform? and how would does that actually effectively, effectively then let labour in through the back door in particularly some of those red wall seats? um, if there isn't that labour that affection for the labour party, how many people will end up for the liberal up voting for the liberal democrats, south up voting for the liberal de england, south up voting for the liberal de england, or south up voting for the liberal de england, or particularly south up voting for the liberal de england, or particularly in uth of england, or particularly in the opposed to the south west, as opposed to labour? might sort labour? how many might sort of stick greens? there are stick with greens? there are a few that few green councils that i noficed few green councils that i noticed popped over the last noticed popped up over the last local so be local elections, so we could be in situation where as paul in a situation where by, as paul was you know, quite was actually, you know, quite right there not right to say that there may not be this labour landslide that everybody is anticipating in or expecting just by, the size expecting just by, by the size of these polls . so think, you of these polls. so i think, you know, real risk that know, there is a real risk that if you unless there is clear community actions from the both parties, particularly the conservative party, which is that vote reform, you end that if you vote reform, you end up with labour stick with the conservatives. again, conservatives. because again, as paul saying, which do paul was saying, which i do absolutely agree with, i know we're supposed to absolutely agree with, i know we agreeing supposed to absolutely agree with, i know we agreeing this;upposed to absolutely agree with, i know weagreeing this;upposwith be agreeing on this panel with each , but that doesn't each other, but that doesn't give you an excuse agree with

give you an excuse to agree with one another. but is those one another. but but it is those red seats voted uh, for red bull seats who voted uh, for change. voted to leave the change. they voted to leave the eu because they thought westminster wasn't working for them, as things like them, as well as things like immigration. that's why immigration. and that's why i think when us and henry bolton, who i think had on earlier who i think you had on earlier on saying that the on that, was saying that the whole media and whole country and the media and politics obsessed by politics we've just obsessed by rwanda moment and we rwanda at the moment and we don't whether it'll don't know whether it'll actually not. the reason actually work or not. the reason that i personally that is, and why i personally would want to be talking about the economy and health and schools and all the rest of it. the economy and health and schcthe and all the rest of it. the economy and health and schcthe reason the rest of it. the economy and health and schcthe reason why rest of it. the economy and health and schcthe reason why theref it. the economy and health and schcthe reason why there ist. the economy and health and schcthe reason why there is such but the reason why there is such a because it matters to a focus is because it matters to those red wall seats, which the tories need on to if tories need to hold on to if they've a shot of winning they've got a shot of winning they've got a shot of winning the paul the next general election. paul that isn't it? the next general election. paul tha we isn't it? the next general election. paul tha we are isn't it? the next general election. paul tha we are focussed�*t it? the next general election. paul tha we are focussed sot? the next general election. paul tha we are focussed so much on >> we are focussed so much on rwanda. i do feel like we have. i mean, i'm one of the few journalists has actually been to rwanda i feel i've rwanda and i do feel like i've been for, been talking about it for, for, for um, but it is for months now. um, but it is this red wall, isn't it, that they both parties need win they both parties need to win oveh they both parties need to win over, what over, but we don't know what labour's policy rwanda. labour's policy is on rwanda. they they've they haven't actually they've said great idea. but said it's not a great idea. but what their policy. how what is their policy. what how how important it is to labour voters that they come up with

something concrete to offer them ? >> well, 7 >> well, what ? >> well, what people need to understand is that the labour party's position on immigration has changed quite substantially over the last kind of 30 years. once upon a time, it was not uncontroversial at all. in fact, it was mainstream for people on the left in the labour movement, including leaders, including trade union leaders, to know that the, the, the labour supply was a market dynamic which, like all market dynamics, needed to be regulated so as to allow government to plan around jobs and welfare and housing, and to make sure there wasn't undue pressure on wages and so on. and actually the kind of immigration approach of liberal immigration approach was very much a fringe position in the labour party back in the day. nowadays that's turned around, um , and the very kind of around, um, and the very kind of relaxed liberal approach to immigration, to immigration is the mainstream position and the regulation of the labour supply position is almost like a fringe position is almost like a fringe position in the labour party. now, people in red wall constituencies believe, you constituencies who believe, you know, the working class people who, um, traditionally loyal to

the labour party but believe in strong borders. see strong borders. they do not see a labour party that is in touch with them on that issue. i think the brexit issue still runs very deep red wall. there's deep in the red wall. there's still sense betrayal that still a sense of betrayal that people those instances people feel in those instances about labour party and its about the labour party and its whole policy. on a second referendum, going back and saying , you know, you got that saying, you know, you got that wrong, you're going to to wrong, you're going to have to do all all going have wrong, you're going to have to do go. all going have wrong, you're going to have to do go through going have wrong, you're going to have to do go through it going have wrong, you're going to have to do go through it again. have wrong, you're going to have to do go through it again. and ave wrong, you're going to have to do go through it again. and the to go through it again. and the general sense that the labour party is pretty much party is still pretty much a party for kind of social activists radicals activists and student radicals and middle class liberals living in our fashionable cities and university . and i'm a university towns. and i'm a labour person. i want to see the labour person. i want to see the labour get back touch labour party get back in touch with constituencies, with red wall constituencies, talking about the touchstone issues, having robust policies on immigration and law and order and that sort of thing. but i don't think red wall constituents actually see the labour articulating that labour party articulating that approach. so what i think dawn is we're possibly going to see something like the australian election last year, where the labour but kind labour party won, but kind of just over the because just got over the line because it the least worst

it was seen as the least worst of bad options there of two bad options and there wasn't affection for wasn't any great affection for it. if an election were it. i think if an election were held in britain tomorrow, we'd probably something similar here. >> that doesn't bode well, does it? final quick question to it? one final quick question to both of you. has been both of you. it has been suggested that the dream ticket both of you. it has been su win;ted that the dream ticket both of you. it has been su win ani that the dream ticket both of you. it has been su win an election; dream ticket both of you. it has been su win an election would] ticket both of you. it has been su win an election would1ti> ?- >> um, 7- >> um,i 7 >> um, i interesting ? >> um, i interesting, um, 7 >> um, i interesting, um, but i don't think it's going to happen , so i'd rather focus on the what could happen rather than hypotheticals. >> but it's certainly an interesting one that's got us all talking. >> do you think the conservative party would be better off working with reform party ? >> 7- >> um, ?- >> um , i, 7- >> um,i,i w ? >> um , i, i think there's 7 >> um , i, i think there's always >> um, i, i think there's always room for, uh, opinion and, and working with other parties if you're agreeing on certain policy platforms. i just don't know whether the reform party and the conservative party are always in the same space. it's a very broad church anyway, the conservative party, that's why it it's so divided at it feels it's so divided at times, particularly this times, particularly over this particular immigration

particular issue of immigration and immigration. so it is and legal immigration. so it is and legal immigration. so it is a broad church. can it broaden itself in that respect ? uh, i'm itself in that respect? uh, i'm not too sure because what you don't want to do then is isolate, perhaps many, many more moderate who voted moderate people who have voted conservative but are conservative for years but are liberal don't liberal conservatives. you don't want isolate and we want to isolate those. and we all know, always know that in order general elections, order to win, general elections, you occupy the centre ground. >> uh, paul, same question to you. what you make that >> uh, paul, same question to you. wticket you make that >> uh, paul, same question to you. wticket suggestion that >> uh, paul, same question to you. wticket suggestion of that >> uh, paul, same question to you. wticket suggestion of boris dream ticket suggestion of boris johnson farage? well johnson and nigel farage? well i don't think it will happen. >> i think it's pie in the to sky expect it to happen. but i think in terms of any changes at the top of the conservative party the moment, think party at the moment, i think would proverbial change would be the proverbial change in on in the deckchairs around on the, on the titanic . um, we've seen on the titanic. um, we've seen changes of leadership in the tory. they love a bit of regicide, don't they, in the tory party. it's for great tory party. and it's for great us the party, but it us in the labour party, but it doesn't have worked doesn't seem to have worked for them. another them. i don't think another change them. the change would work for them. the key thing is can they deliver in terms cost living terms of the cost of living crisis, getting people's real wages up, dealing with the immigration know, immigration problem, you know, deaung immigration problem, you know, dealing crisis of dealing with the crisis of

lawlessness on our streets until they can show people they're in touch on those touchstone issues, doesn't matter who's the leader . leader. >> right. that's it. thank you very we've run out of very much. we've run out of time, gentlemen. charlie rowley and you very and paul embery, thank you very much me this much for joining me this afternoon. more afternoon. right. lots more coming show, coming up on today's show, though. you're watching and though. um you're watching and listening gb news hsi with listening to gb news hsi with me. neesom and first, let me. dawn neesom and first, let before move we've got before we move on, we've got some coming up, but some great stuff coming up, but let's a look at what the let's take a look at what the weather's doing, shall we? very important this of year. important at this time of year. hello vautrey here of >> i'm jonathan vautrey here of your weather forecast your gb news weather forecast provided met office. for provided by the met office. for those out some christmas those out doing some christmas shopping today, there is a fair amount to contend with. amount of cloud to contend with. some of us some brighter amount of cloud to contend with. some (occasionally some brighter amount of cloud to contend with. some (occasionally throughout hter amount of cloud to contend with. somafternoon,1ally throughout hter amount of cloud to contend with. somafternoon, and throughout hter amount of cloud to contend with. som afternoon, and holding out hter amount of cloud to contend with. somafternoon, and holding on hter this afternoon, and holding on to some spells this to some clear spells into this evening overnight, evening and overnight, mainly across eastern of england across eastern parts of england down as well down into the south as well a touch towards the west. down into the south as well a touccloud towards the west. down into the south as well a touccloud willowards the west. down into the south as well a touccloud will beirds the west. down into the south as well a touccloud will be thick1e west. down into the south as well a touccloud will be thick enough the cloud will be thick enough for some drizzly outbreaks of rain, persistent rain, but the most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain parts of rain will be across parts of north—west scotland amber north—west scotland and an amber weather warning force weather warning comes into force on for on sunday, with potential for significant disruption . it will significant disruption. it will be a mild night underneath all the well parts of the cloud as well parts of scotland northern ireland

scotland and northern ireland running up double digit running up in double digit figures as start figures ten 11 c. as we start off persistent rain off the day that persistent rain then across western scotland throughout sunday, with the weather stuck place, weather system stuck in place, allowing a month's worth of rain to fall by the end of the day. do take care because there could be flooding landslides be some flooding and landslides causing disruption. rain causing disruption. the rain will eventually way will eventually sink its way southwards of southwards into parts of northern ireland, southwest scotland, further towards northern ireland, southwest sco south further towards northern ireland, southwest sco south 'eastar towards northern ireland, southwest sco south 'eastar to will s the south and east you will likely despite the likely stay drier despite the cloudy picture. again, another mild generally between mild day, generally between 9 and 13 c into monday. that weather system will gradually sink its way southwards further so we'll start to see some of that rain pushing again into northern ireland. parts of northwest england and into wales in southwest of england in the far southwest of england as seeing few spots and as well seeing a few spots and drizzles. southeastern areas of england, staying driest. england, staying the driest. again, and again, relatively cloudy and mild but fresher mild here, but fresher conditions the far conditions moving into the far northwest, that's going to northwest, and that's going to allow temperatures to slowly drop way off as head drop their way off as we head into of the new into the start of the new working enjoy your by working week. enjoy your day by by sea. >> we're still not getting that white christmas message, we? white christmas message, are we? i a white christmas. i really want a white christmas. please. just sit put

please. i can just sit down, put my feet up and watch gb news. now, that are things that now, people that are things that aren't forward to aren't looking forward to christmas turkeys. we eat christmas are turkeys. we eat around them every around 10 million of them every yearin around 10 million of them every year in the uk, with 25% of brits buying our christmas birds months in advance. prepare for the big day. turkeys have been a staple of the uk festive feast for nearly 500 years, with king henry the eighth popularised eating turkey for christmas dinner. reporter anna dinner. now our reporter anna riley as visit a turkey farm in east yorkshire to see how they are faring after bird flu wiped out more than half a million wild birds last year. let's have a look, john holtby has farmed turkeys in yorkshire for over 20 years, but last year the industry was in crisis when over half a million turkeys had to be culled or died due to bird flu . culled or died due to bird flu. >> this christmas, john and other turkey farmers up and down the country are hoping for a better festive season. >> people got rather spooked by by bird flu and stopped buying, so the orders were very slow .

so the orders were very slow. they nearly caught up towards the end . we didn't get bird flu, the end. we didn't get bird flu, but we had bird flu nearby this yeah but we had bird flu nearby this year. there are recent cases of bird flu , so we are worried bird flu, so we are worried about it as we run towards christmas. >> free range turkeys do cost more, but with this comes a better quality of meat. most people think of christmas and think of a turkey, so we're trying to provide the best possible turkey for them to make their christmas dinner the most important dinner of the year. >> it's like anything you sort of pay, you get what you pay for here. >> the turkeys are reared from day old chicks . day old chicks. >> we have them under a heat lamp in a stable. from there they then get brought out here when they're when they're about a month or two old, and then they're brought to maturity. so these the only birds these are really the only birds that actually are reared to maturity , which is what gives maturity, which is what gives them well, them the flavour as well, because they have fats because they have natural fats that are allowed to develop this christmas . christmas. >> the nfu want people to buy british. >> i encourage people to buy the best turkey that they can

afford. >> now that might be from their local farm or their local butcher. it might be from a supermarket, it might even be a frozen product. buy the best you can afford. it's, um, it's all about creating at about creating memories at christmas and think christmas, and i don't think anybody back from the table anybody sits back from the table and says, goodness me, that turkey but they might turkey was cheap. but they might say me, turkey say, goodness me, that turkey was no matter how good was good. but no matter how good the turkey , some in yorkshire the turkey, some in yorkshire won't be following tradition. >> i'm actually vegetarian, so i'll be having some sort of nut roast with the quorn and various other well. but yeah, no other bits as well. but yeah, no turkey for me. >> it's mum buys three >> it's my mum that buys three birds just birds roast, so it's just something we've been brought up with having free bird roast instead of turkey. >> turkey probably a good option. get you option. something to get you started. um. mashed potatoes. that's peas , that's a good one. a bit peas, carrots, a of gravy. if carrots, a bit of gravy. if you're feeling bit daring. you're feeling a bit daring. >> love beef and there's no >> i love beef and there's no better than beef to be honest. >> i'll have for christmas prawns. >> and with the leftovers of the christmas turkey , families are christmas turkey, families are bound to be gobbling it into the new year .

bound to be gobbling it into the new year. anna riley gb news is. >> i'm sorry. thank you very much, anna. but they're not very pretty, are they? turkeys is that turkey? can i be turkey? i just was, any case, lots more coming up on today's show. next up, we'll be asking what you can do to avoid spending too much this christmas and still put on a show. of that to a festive show. all of that to come much more. i'm dawn come and much more. i'm dawn neesom you're and neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news don't too far

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> good afternoon. it's 132. six till 930. >> good afternoon. it's132. i'm >> good afternoon. it's 132. i'm ray anderson in the gb newsroom. our top stories. rishi sunak is meeting italy's prime minister, giorgia meloni in rome to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. comes just a day after 292 migrants crossed the engush after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats, bringing the total so far this year to 29,500. the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration . an idf irregular migration. an idf official says. israeli hostages mistaken killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . holding up a white flag. israel's military says troops opened fire after yotam haim , opened fire after yotam haim, samar, tal alaka and ahlam shamriz were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas.

threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas . on the 7th kidnapped by hamas. on the 7th of october. roya navy destroyer hms diamond has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says the target was intercepted overnight with a sea viper missile. the warship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . the met maritime security. the met police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years . newspapers over several years. the met says while it will consider the ruling, there is no on going investigation . british on going investigation. british schoolboy alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain , missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the united kingdom this weekend. the 17 year old was just 11 when he

vanished with his mother and his grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he'd been living with his mum . you been living with his mum. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com. now let's get straight back to dawn . straight back to dawn. >> thank you . ray. welcome back >> thank you. ray. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. well as christmas is now only nine days away. yes, just nine days. okay. many are looking forward to the telly over the festive period. this year's season of strictly come dancing also concludes this weekend , with many wanting to weekend, with many wanting to know who will seize that coveted glitterball . and joining me now glitterball. and joining me now looking very much like a glitterball herself . not quite glitterball herself. not quite as round, though. more sort of like very tall and slim, but very sure after what i've eaten this week. god's half this week. yeah god's own half woman, half quality street.

joining me , as you've just joining me, as you've just heard, is einstein reporter hayley palmer. hayley thank you very much for coming. it's the time of year where everyone is just going to sit and chill in front of the telly, and gb news is on keeping company all is on keeping you company all the . by the way, we are on the time. by the way, we are on all the time and we've got some special we special treats coming up. yes we have on christmas day special treats coming up. yes we haveon on christmas day special treats coming up. yes we haveon boxing)n christmas day special treats coming up. yes we haveon boxing day. ristmas day special treats coming up. yes we haveon boxing day. yesnas day and on boxing day. yes >> very well. you know, i'm a strictly fan. i'm going to throw it out there now. there is a strictly special on christmas it out there now. there is a stricfor special on christmas it out there now. there is a stricforspecsamn christmas it out there now. there is a stricforspecsamn christrgoing to day for 40. sam ryder's going to be performing, so i'm going to tune him okay. he's tune in just for him okay. he's a treasure . so we have a national treasure. so we have i it's quite a good gig i think it's quite a good gig actually. when come and actually. when you come on and just christmas special, just do the christmas special, not all the training for the not do all the training for the usual up , it's not do all the training for the usual up, it's quite nice usual turn up, it's quite nice for we've got six for yourself. so we've got six celebrities that will be taking place dawns. we've got sally nugent bbc breakfast, dan nugent from bbc breakfast, dan snow, who's an author , jamie snow, who's an author, jamie borthwick from eastenders, tilly armati from waterloo road, danny cipriani, the rugby player and keisha from the sugababes. so tune in christmas day with the

quality street. i'm sure it will be good entertainment. yeah, that sounds pretty good and obviously the final strictly come dancing is tonight, isn't it ? it? >> i haven't been paying that much it. oh, dawn, much attention to it. oh, dawn, you need to. >> this like the biggest you need to. >> tiof like the biggest you need to. >> tiof the ke the biggest you need to. >> tiof the yeahz biggest you need to. >> tiof the year. thisgest you need to. >> tiof the year. this is.t night of the year. this is. >> you know what you're >> well, you know what you're talking about. >> this is where i come into my own. literally. don't >> time is it on tonight? >> right. tonight it's on at seven finishes at 930. so seven and it finishes at 930. so usually on usually you get the results on the you won't. you'll the sunday but you won't. you'll get results tonight. we're get the results tonight. we're going to find out okay that my prediction is right. hopefully ellie okay. ellie ellie and vito. okay. um it's the bookies with it's very the bookies agree with you. okay. you. they do. all right. okay. they with me. they do agree with me. >> you cheating? >> are you cheating? >> are you cheating? >> basically, basically >> basically, i basically cheated know, cheated and then, you know, i like to put your money in like you to put your money in the right place. so um. yes, they are in my opinion, to they are in my opinion, going to win also apparently win today. and also apparently there's bit of romance there's a little bit of romance going the going on between them which the pubuc going on between them which the public we like that don't we. so pensh public we like that don't we. so perish thought do that. >> e- e with someone >> every year with someone having with their >> every year with someone havingpartneh with their dance partner. >> are really cute >> but they are really cute together. so i just think, i just think they're going win. just think they're going to win. i do. i really hope they do. >> it's, um , jade goody's >> and it's, um, jade goody's little as well also up

little boy as well is also up there as a favourite. is he? yes. >> he he's one of the favourites. i mean is favourites. i mean he is brilliant watch. i think he brilliant to watch. i think he has done well because he's has done so well because he's very tall. i he's about very tall. i think he's about six um, and his six foot two. um, and his partner not actually that partner is not actually that tall. so actually it's tall. so i actually think it's quite hard him in some quite hard for him in some moves. i think moves. actually, i think the person they should have put him with dancer, he's with a taller dancer, but he's got big smile, hasn't he? got that big smile, hasn't he? just kind of grips you. and i think of those moves he think some of those moves he does, know, very technical . does, you know, very technical. and he's, he's really improved. you've seen the you've really seen the improvement since first improvement since he first started. the soaps started. and obviously the soaps are big christmas day. are always big on christmas day. >> they've all got >> i'm assuming they've all got their got to see their normal. you've got to see everyone arguing in eastenders haven't you. >> wouldn't haven'tyou. >> wouldn't christmas. >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> still doing >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> yeah still doing >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> yeah but still doing >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> yeah but that's.l doing >> it wouldn't be christmas. >> yeah but that's theying that. yeah but that's the highlight because it makes me feel own feel really good about my own life. that's true. and the last time remember time i actually remember watching it was when den and angie divorced. watching it was when den and angl'm divorced. watching it was when den and angl'm going orced. watching it was when den and angl'm going back. >> i'm going back. >> i'm going back. >> going back. >> that is going back. >> that is going back. >> need watch this >> you need to watch it. this year to get up to speed. year then to get up to speed. >> i'm actually watching news >> i'm actually watching gb news all day, to be honest with you. >> go. there go. >> but there we go. there we go. like of course we are like that. of course we are something else. but also they've got the royal variety performance, which is this

sunday, and think it looks sunday, and i think it looks really year. it's really good this year. it's actually in november at really good this year. it's actllondon in november at really good this year. it's actllondon palladium. ember at really good this year. it's actllondon palladium. uh,er at really good this year. it's actllondon palladium. uh, and the london palladium. uh, and you've bradley walsh from you've got bradley walsh from the chase, uh, it this you've got bradley walsh from the thicth, it this you've got bradley walsh from the thicth,wonderful. this year, which is wonderful. and you've waddingham, year, which is wonderful. and you've paloma waddingham, year, which is wonderful. and you've paloma faithidingham, year, which is wonderful. and you've paloma faith performing mcfly by paloma faith performing rick astley. wow that sounds uh, yeah, that sounds um. >> right. okay. and is there a doctor who as well ? doctor who as well? >> i think there is. it's like you're more more your thing, dawn, isn't it? >> it's getting to be more my thing compared the royal thing compared to the royal variety okay variety performance. yes. okay i'll watch royal variety. >> doctor, and can >> you watch doctor, and we can compare notes. >> you watch doctor, and we can conyeah. notes. >> you watch doctor, and we can conyeah. likes. >> you watch doctor, and we can conyeah. like what we there. >> yeah. like what we did there. but there's new doctor who i but there's a new doctor who i was watching that. i was watching the new doctor the watching the new doctor who, the regeneration thing the other day, doctor who day, and the new doctor who turned he was just turned up, and he was just wearing his pants. oh, as wearing his pants. oh, and as i was watching with younger was watching it with a younger member my mum, member of the family in my mum, and them said at the and both of them said at the same time, why he just same time, why is he just wearing literally his wearing his pants? literally his underwear. did you not underwear. wow yeah. did you not see that? >> e seen w- e seen it on. okay, >> i haven't seen it on. okay, i'm clearly. so i'll i'm missing out clearly. so i'll be doctor who. yeah in be watching doctor who. yeah in your knickers. >> basically . no, wow. >> basically. no, no. wow. >> basically. no, no. wow. >> whole new level.

>> a whole new level. >> a whole new level. >> but i actually think the high light um, christmas day light of our, um, christmas day is to be patrick and emily is going to be patrick and emily in their jimjams on christmas. are they actually in their jim jams? yep . jams? yep, yep. >> i'm here for it. >> i'm here for it. >> yep. oh, yeah. on breakfast day, very special day, we have a very special treat you uh, christmas treat for you all. uh, christmas eve breakfast. um, and on eve and breakfast. um, and on christmas day and breakfast, you've carver and you've got emily carver and patrick christie in. >> i remember he was on last yeah >> i remember he was on last year. patrick christys. he was on. so. yeah he's brilliant. >> that's to be the >> so that's going to be the highlight christmas. highlight of christmas. >> sign me up. i'll be >> i mean, sign me up. i'll be there to watch. >> i won't christmas >> i won't be wearing christmas gym jumpsuit. thank you gym jumpsuit. right. thank you very palmer. thank gym jumpsuit. right. thank you veryvery palmer. thank gym jumpsuit. right. thank you veryvery much. palmer. thank gym jumpsuit. right. thank you veryvery much. uh, almer. thank gym jumpsuit. right. thank you veryvery much. uh, rightr. thank gym jumpsuit. right. thank you veryvery much. uh, right now. nk you very much. uh, right now. okay christmas, okay talking of christmas, money is so how is important. is it? so how would to win £10,000 would you like to win £10,000 cash? brand new tech and shopping you shopping vouchers. well, you could our very could be the winner of our very first christmas. great british giveaway. here's all the details on make those on how you can make those prizes. yours >> you really could be the winner very first great winner of the very first great british giveaway and receive nearly £12,000 worth of prizes from us. first, we've got a simply stunning £10,000 in tax free cash to give you cash that

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the traditional christmas dinner is a staple of the festive period, but farmers are warning that recent wet weather has caused a shortage of some christmas vegetables, such as cauliflower and broccoli. there are also warnings that, as the size of everyone's favourite christmas veg, i'd said that with a straight face. by the way, the brussels sprout could be smaller too, so . so is the be smaller too, so. so is the christmas dinner in crime . this, christmas dinner in crime. this, uh, to answer that very question is farmer richard p peace, richard. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. so so, um, our brussels sprouts are going to be smaller. >> they're they're going to be smaller. >> but, um, we see, um, the they've had a very tough growing time with all the wet weather. >> um, i'm stood out in our brussels sprout field at the moment. >> and even though they're shorter, the sprouts still great. >> um, as you see here, i've got a stem sprouts. >> um, as you see here, i've got a stem the)routs. >> um, as you see here, i've got a stem the sprouts on the stem >> um, the sprouts on the stem are looking really good. are still looking really good. >> yeah .

>> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> so, i mean, what effect is, is the is that having on other vegetables as well? i mean, well, we mentioned that our, um, um, turnips are in trouble there . is it ? . is it? >> uh, turnips i'm not too sure about. >> i know there's been a bit of a crisis with cauliflower and broccoli this time. um, we've we had a whole load of cauliflowers that coming ready for christmas. >> w- e cold weather >> and then the cold weather last um, gave them a bit last week, um, gave them a bit of frost damage. so i think that's case quite lot that's the case with quite a lot of cauliflowers of english cauliflowers across the you can see, the country. um, as you can see, this one here, which was destined christmas destined for the christmas market, i don't know whether you whether coming on the whether it's coming on the camera. you can see that it's gone brown inside. gone quite brown on the inside. uh no. good for for the the uh no. no. good for for the the british supermarkets when they're, when the veg isn't perfect, it . right. >> okay. so why do we, why do we want our vegetables to be so perfect? i've never understood this. i mean, you're going to eat not going to eat them. you're not going to sit look at are you ? sit and look at them, are you? >> no, this is it. it's it's just a consumer. doesn't just a consumer. if it doesn't look shelves, look perfect on the shelves,

they it up. um they don't pick it up. um fortunately, um, can be quite price orientated, but, um, but most of the time with the veg isn't it doesn't, it isn't perfect. it doesn't, it doesn't the shelves for doesn't fly off the shelves for the . the supermarkets. >> this shortage that we are >> and this shortage that we are facing potentially. um, how is that going to affect the prices? are they going to be paying more for this year ? for our sprouts this year? >> um, for me, the sprouts have been fine. it's um, they've weathered the weather very well. um it's more the it's more the cauliflowers and the broccoli. so this morning in leicester wholesale market, if i were having to buy cauliflowers, they were £3 a piece for me to actually buy for our farm shop . actually buy for our farm shop. um, but um, but there are other alternative vegetables we can use for our christmas dinner. um, the cabbages. so we've got some really red cabbages. some really nice red cabbages. uh, on our farm. and they've done really well with the wet in all the wet weather. um, we've got let's we've got kale. um the parsnips we've got on our farm and on our local farms. they've all done really well with the

wet weather. so it's a case of just choosing your christmas veg to suit your budget . to suit your budget. >> okay. um, thank you very much , richard, forjoining us this , richard, for joining us this afternoon . thank you. appreciate afternoon. thank you. appreciate that. uh now we can go straight, i think, to rishi sunak live in rome. who is speaking? um about immigration, i think. let's have a listen , shall we? a listen, shall we? >> and looking across the seven hills here today , i can hills here today, i can certainly why . certainly see why. >> but i also know how proud you are of country and how well are of your country and how well you serve it . and i see you you serve it. and i see you doing that with conviction and determination at summits and meetings from hiroshima to dubai to granada, as well as last month at the ai summit in the uk . now georgia and i became prime ministers of our countries at pretty much the same time, and we are pretty much the only centre right leaders in the g7 . centre right leaders in the g7. >> so we have been drawn to each other . we have built a strong other. we have built a strong friendship . a strong friendship ,

friendship. a strong friendship, but also a strong relationship over our shared interests and most importantly , our shared most importantly, our shared values. we are both conservative, atlanticists . we conservative, atlanticists. we are supporters of nato, the centrality of the atlantic alliance. >> we both believe that it is fundamental that we stand up to russian aggression , that we russian aggression, that we support ukraine and the prospect of a better future . and i say to of a better future. and i say to all our allies that, in the words of winston churchill, if we give the ukrainians the tools they will finish the job. >> so let's get them the weapons and the ammunition as they need . and the ammunition as they need. there is nothing conservative about allowing a country's sovereignty to be violated. conservatives know that the first rule of international politics is that we must always stand firm against aggression and defend our values. >> now, when a daunting world we all need lodestars to guide us. >> and i'm pleased to say that

georgia and i share some of the same guiding lights . first, the same guiding lights. first, the late roger scruton, a titan of conservative philosophy . conservative philosophy. >> roger was a great influence on me when i was working in local government and housing issues. >> he understood that if people are to accept development , it are to accept development, it must be in keeping with the character of the place that they call home. their home is somewhere that you are not just where you live, but you are proud to call your home. and as he put it, the real reason people are conservative is that they are attached to the things that they . love now next up is that they. love now next up is margaret thatcher. now i can only guess. i can only guess what first attracted georgia to the strong female leader who was prepared to challenge the consensus take on stale thinking and revive her country, both domestic and on the international stage . when

international stage. when georgia came to see me in downing street, we had the opportunity to look through some of margaret thatcher's personal papers together and what struck me as we looked at them was not just her radicalism, her boldness, but her seriousness to she understood that ideas only mattered if you could implement them. she was a serious about governing, as she was about political philosophy. now margaret thatcher never shied away from the hard choices and the big issues. and today there is no issue to which we need to apply is no issue to which we need to apply thatcher's radicalism and drive to more than illegal migration. now our opponents just want to ignore this issue . just want to ignore this issue. they want to put their heads in the sand and hope that it goes away . well, let me tell them away. well, let me tell them that it won't. if they doubt that, just go to lampedusa. arrivals in the central mediterranean up by more than 50% this year. that is unsustainable. but it is also

unfair and it is immoral. >> criminal gangs will find ever cheaper ways to ply their evil trade. >> they will exploit our humanity and they think nothing of putting people's lives at risk when they put them in these boats at sea. and our enemies will also see that we are unable to deal with this, and then they will. so increasingly use migration as a weapon, deliberately driving people to our shores to try to destabilise our shores to try to destabilise our society . if we do not tackle our society. if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm them, our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help the most . actually need our help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens who won't understand why their money should have to be spent on deaung money should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of

this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith, not just in us as politicians, but in our very systems of government . why very systems of government. why because it is fundamental. it is a fundamental tenet of sovereignty that it is us who should decide who comes to our countries and not criminal gangs . now, if we cannot deliver on that, our voters will lose patience with us and the way in which their countries are run, and rightly so. we simply must have control of our borders . so have control of our borders. so we must . deal have control of our borders. so we must. deal with this problem and to ignore it, but to put our countries at risk and if we are to stop the boats, then we must have a deterrent. people must know that if they come to our countries illegally , then they countries illegally, then they won't get to stay . it's as

won't get to stay. it's as simple as that . now making that simple as that. now making that deterrent credible will mean doing things differently . doing things differently. breaking from consensus. doing things differently. breaking from consensus . and breaking from consensus. and both georgia and i are prepared to do that. georgia is planning to do that. georgia is planning to send asylum seekers to albania to be processed , and i albania to be processed, and i am passing legislation so that we can send illegal migrants to rwanda. we are both determined to break the business model of these criminal gangs. to break the business model of these criminal gangs . and let me these criminal gangs. and let me say this, if that requires us to update our laws and lead an international conversation to amend post—war frameworks around asylum , then we must do that . asylum, then we must do that. because if we don't fix this problem now, the boats will keep coming and more lives will be lost at sea. now, the government i lead has shown that deterrence works . in i lead has shown that deterrence works. in january of this year, we signed an agreement with

albania to show that it is safe. and since then we have removed 5000 people and arrivals from albania to the uk have fallen by 90. if people know that they won't get to stay , then they won't get to stay, then they won't get to stay, then they won't come and that must be our aim, that every one knows that if they come to italy or to britain illegally , then they britain illegally, then they simply won't get to stay . so we simply won't get to stay. so we will do what it takes to stop the boats to get this done and to restore our citizens faith in the security of our borders. thatis the security of our borders. that is our challenge as a generation of conservative leaders, we will rise to it. georgia thank you for your global leadership on this issue. and in closing, let me also say

thank you for italy's staunch stance standing alongside the uk and our other allies in nato in standing up to aggression on our continent . italy is a truly continent. italy is a truly remarkable country, loved and admired by so many of my fellow countrymen and women , me countrymen and women, me included. and we go a long way back together . we brits and we back together. we brits and we hauans back together. we brits and we italians from caesar landing on the kent coast in 55 bc to our construction today of the next generation of fighter aircraft. and we were reminded of the deep links between our two societies when giorgia, you came to london and we went to see the cosmati pavement in westminster abbey , pavement in westminster abbey, laid by british and italian artisans. nearly 800 years ago, so that shows what we brits and hauans so that shows what we brits and italians can achieve together. when we put our minds to it. so let that be the spirit that drives the partnership between our countries today. and as

italy takes on the leadership of the g7 , as we look to the future the g7, as we look to the future together and work to deliver for our people, it is a privilege and a pleasure, giorgia, to take that work forward with you and it is a great honour to be here today supporting you . von today supporting you. von natalia tutti . okay okay. natalia tutti. okay okay. >> well we have just been watching rishi sunak speaking live in rome there. um, and joining me now to dissect what he has just said is katherine forster, our political, um, commentator , very, very praising commentator, very, very praising of giorgia meloni. there the, the prime minister of italy. what did you make of what rishi has just said? >> yes. really strong words from rishi sunak . weren't they rishi sunak. weren't they painting the challenge of illegal migration, almost like a sort of existential threat to europe and saying that, you know, criminal gangs, he said, will exploit our humanity. we and the enemies, other countries

will use people as a weapon to destabilise , um, western destabilise, um, western democracies is basically saying that if they don't act, if countries aren't seen to control their borders, when they promise to do so, that people will lose faith in government, will lose faith in government, will lose faith in government, will lose faith in democracy , and how faith in democracy, and how serious that potentially will be, and saying, serious that potentially will be, and saying , too, that he and be, and saying, too, that he and giorgia meloni are prepared to what he says doing things. do differently, even if that's against the consensus. so obviously he's talking about potentially sending people to rwanda and in italy's case, sending people to albania. and also he did say if it requires us to amend laws, he did leave an opening, didn't he, to potentially be changing or pulling out or looking again at long standing laws and conventions, which i think is , conventions, which i think is, is interesting. so but really painting it as a huge threat, a

really strong words. well let's see what the, you know, the unspoken thing. >> they didn't actually mention the european court of human rights, you do wonder rights, but you do wonder whether was, you know, what whether that was, you know, what he will do he was implying. we will do everything within our power. and does that go up and including does that go up to and including withdrawing from the european court human rights? court of human rights? >> well, it's always been that he doesn't want to go that far, but ultimately we don't know what it will take to stop these people coming or to bring the numbers down significantly. he was also really struck , saying was also really struck, saying the links he's got a personally very good relationship with giorgia meloni , but stressing giorgia meloni, but stressing the links, going back hundreds of years and right up to date, um, just this thursday, italy , um, just this thursday, italy, britain and japan. so signed this deal to basically make next generation stealth fighter jets together there. so economic investment . so, uh, yeah, i investment. so, uh, yeah, i think he's having a better reception there certainly, than he has been having in

westminster. among his own mps. he has been having in wezshe1steh among his own mps. he has been having in wezshe mustamong his own mps. he has been having in wezshe must be ong his own mps. he has been having in wezshe must be feeling own mps. he has been having in wezshe must be feeling quite vips. >> she must be feeling quite happy himself after that. happy with himself after that. thank katherine thank you very much, katherine forster there. uh, right. okay. let's straight over to ray let's go straight over to ray addison, who's got the news headunes addison, who's got the news headlines you . headlines for you. >> thanks . dawn. it's 2:00. headlines for you. >> thanks. dawn. it's 2:00. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. and our top story this hour. rishi sunak told a crowd in rome a short time ago that there's nothing conservative about allowing a country's sovereignty to be violated . and he's in to be violated. and he's in italy meeting prime minister giorgia meloni to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. he said that both he and the italian leader are committed to breaking the business models of people smugglers . today's people smugglers. today's meeting comes a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channelin migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats, bringing the total so far this year to 29,500. the pm is hoping to win support from european allies to tackle irregular migration . a royal navy migration. a royal navy

destroyer has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says hms diamond hit the target overnight with a sea viper missile. target overnight with a sea viper missile . the ship recently viper missile. the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . an idf official says security. an idf official says israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . israel's up a white flag. israel's military says troops opened fire after jotunheim similar to al—awlaki and alon shamriz were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf has promised full transport kc while they investigate . the kc while they investigate. the met police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday , judgement handed down yesterday, which found that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years.

prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation. british schoolboy alex batty , who went missing six alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk this weekend . the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and his grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he'd been living with his mum. alex's grandma , with his mum. alex's grandma, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited and the prime minister has paid tribute to the emir of kuwait, sheikh nawaf, who has died at the age of 86. rishi sunak described him as a great friend of the uk who will be remembered fondly for his work to promote stability in the middle east. he was defence minister when iraq invaded the country in 1990. he became ruler of the small oil rich state in

2020, working to ease political deadlock and promote national unity . some more international unity. some more international news and donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani is to appeal after being ordered to pay appeal after being ordered to pay more than £160 million for defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers , wandrea shaye moss and workers, wandrea shaye moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages, including threats of lynching, and were forced to relocate. due to those comments , giuliani falsely comments, giuliani falsely claimed that he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence and described the payout as absurd . police have released absurd. police have released cctv images of three men wanted for questioning after graffiti relating to the israeli hamas conflict was sprayed onto an mps office. the constitution constituency office, rather of feryal clark , who's the mp for feryal clark, who's the mp for enfield north, was vandalised

last month. police say they've examined the footage from a local area and are appealing for anyone with information on the men to get in touch . the rac men to get in touch. the rac says that petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded now costs an average of around 140 £0.02. that's a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel pnces october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . the news prices have not fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of year on the roads, with experts saying that prices could continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas , day in the run up to christmas, vaping products were the fastest growing grocery category this yeah growing grocery category this year, reaching almost £900 million in sales, according to research by nick and the grocer. it's the second year in a row that they've topped industry data. that's despite the pm saying that the government would act to kerb vaping among young people. meanwhile purchases of cigarettes, cigars and loose

tobacco have all fallen sharply . tobacco have all fallen sharply. you're watching gb news and listening across the uk on tv , listening across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to dawn . get back to dawn. >> thank you very much . right >> thank you very much. right now, let's get straight into today's topics. prime minister rishi sunak has just finished speaking at a right wing conference in rome after holding talks with his italian counterpart, giorgia meloni , counterpart, giorgia meloni, where he was seeking to thrash out a common approach to tackling illegal immigration, the pm heaped praise on maloney and said that there is nothing conservative about allowing your sovereignty to be violated . this sovereignty to be violated. this comes in the same week that the governments controversial safety rwanda bill passed its second reading in parliament, despite opposition from labour and the many conservative mps abstaining from voting. full stop . joining from voting. full stop. joining us now is gb news political

correspondent , katherine correspondent, katherine forster, to bring us up to speed on what rishi has been saying, catherine, thank you very much for joining us again. i thought forjoining us again. i thought it was a very, very strong speech and really going for that red wall vote by saying we are going to be tough on immigration and do whatever it takes. >> yes, really strong words from rishi sunak . of course, he's rishi sunak. of course, he's pledged to stop the boats . he's pledged to stop the boats. he's got maybe a year to the next election . no sign of that at election. no sign of that at all. but the rhetoric very strong, saying we simply must have control of our borders. and of course , brexit was in part of course, brexit was in part a vote to take back control, including of our borders and 29,000 people crossing the channel illegally. this year is a very , very visible sign of a very, very visible sign of what former home secretary suella braverman admitted is a failure to control our borders. but very clear listening to him

and from what's going on in italy, that this is by no means just a british problem. numbers are up hugely across the mediterranean this year and italy specifically. they've had 150,000 people arrive illegally . 150,000 people arrive illegally. and italy, like britain , are and italy, like britain, are trying to basically offshore for some of these arrivals . and like some of these arrivals. and like britain to show they are getting bogged down in difficulty . so bogged down in difficulty. so whereas we've got the rwanda bill going , going through bill going, going through parliament may come unstuck again and giorgia meloni signed again and giorgia meloni signed a deal with albania for two process centres there. but that has been blocked in the last few days by an albanian court concerned about sovereignty. having italian officials process seeing people's claims so real difficulty, but basically rishi sunak making it sound like pretty much as him and giorgia meloni against the world, saying that they are prepared to do

things differently even if it's against the overall leading consensus and even interestingly, he said, if that requires us to amend laws or conventions , leaving the door conventions, leaving the door open to what's been talked about a lot , what rishi open to what's been talked about a lot, what rishi sunak open to what's been talked about a lot , what rishi sunak doesn't a lot, what rishi sunak doesn't want to do, but ultimately we don't know. you know, they may feel that they have no option in terms of the european convention of human rights or, you know, all these international agreements that were made a long time ago that may not necessarily be as fit for purpose anymore. >> it was very, very flattering to georgia as well, wasn't it? it was very, you know, we are together on this. we are united in achieving this. um, and mentioning , in achieving this. um, and mentioning, you in achieving this. um, and mentioning , you know, margaret mentioning, you know, margaret thatcher in the same breath as well. so it's really built the relationship between the two countries. >> yes. and it's good for both of them because, um , she of them because, um, she obviously has come from the far right. she was, you know , with right. she was, you know, with neo fascist groups when she was

younger. she's tried to paint herself as much more centrist now , but obviously there's a now, but obviously there's a suspicion of her by many , um, suspicion of her by many, um, about her origins. so having rishi. rishi sunak as an ally, that's that's great for her. it gives her credibility . and also gives her credibility. and also for him, of course , he's got for him, of course, he's got a real ally and as close to a friend really as possible in politics in the european union with very similar challenges. so it works well for, for both of them certainly do you think that by aligning himself so closely as you say, with someone with a quite a far right background , quite a far right background, how do you think that'll go down with the more centrist and left leaning inverted commas of the conservative party, who, as we know catherine, are so divided ? know catherine, are so divided? >> well, the one nation group obviously , um, went along. obviously, um, went along. >> in fact, no conservative mp voted against the rwanda bill in the end. but they are very concerned that that the bill shouldn't be made any tougher

because they're very concerned about human rights. so i don't think this will necessarily thrill them. but at the same time, i think there is a recognition in the conservative party that 20 points behind in the polls, they've spent 13 years pledging to cut net migration , legal migration. migration, legal migration. that's at three quarters of a million. and, you know , they've million. and, you know, they've said they're going to stop the boats . rishi sunak said they're going to stop the boats. rishi sunak has got said they're going to stop the boats . rishi sunak has got them boats. rishi sunak has got them down by a third. i think there is a recognition that something does to change. but, um, does need to change. but, um, obviously they would be very wary of changing or withdrawing from any international agreement i >> -- >> but indeed, it's actually a fascinating thing. and strong words from rishi, which we're not often used to hearing, are we entreat, uh katherine we entreat, uh, katherine forster, thank very for forster, thank you very much for joining us. for all the joining us. now, for all the best and opinion on best analysis and opinion on that story more, you can that story and more, you can go to gb dot com. to the website gb news dot com. now moving on whilst now we're moving on whilst people up and down the country prepare to enjoy presents and parties over this festive

period, a report has revealed that brits will spend an average of £105.43 more on christmas this year, despite light shrinkflation festive food and dnnkis shrinkflation festive food and drink is expected to be the largest contributor to this rise, with an average increase of £25.87. so what can you do to save money? this question this christmas? a question on absolutely everyone's lips isn't it? joining me now is household finance expert and founder of nusco , greg marsh. uh, greg, nusco, greg marsh. uh, greg, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. um, so , okay. us this afternoon. um, so, okay. it's we're spending more on christmas, but we're not getting as much for our money. so how how can we save money? >> yeah, it's by the way, that shrinkflation stuff, the one that really gets me is chocolate i >> -- >> how lam >> how much smaller and how much less bang for your buck. >> you get on those packs of quality streets and those boxes of roses. quality streets and those boxes of rises. quality streets and those boxes of i! mean, that was sort of my >> i mean, that was sort of my defining memory of christmas as a was passing the quality

>> was passing the quality streets around and, you know, you tell you don't get as you can tell you don't get as many ones. these days. many purple ones. these days. >> tip we've right >> the top tip we've got right now is, course, look at what now is, of course, look at what you're buying. >> make budget shop from that >> make a budget shop from that budget and make sure that you're focusing on each one of those decisions and trying save decisions and trying to save money. actually those are the >> but actually those are the things of get things which most of us get right. are the things right. those are the things where attention to where people pay attention to how paying the how much they're paying at the supermarket . and we're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. et . and we're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. we . and we're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. we know and we're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. we know ,.nd we're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. we know , you ve're how much they're paying at the sup stupid. we know , you know, not stupid. we know, you know, when packets get smaller and when the packets get smaller and the at the till, the costs go up at the till, how? however, when you can probably save money is the things that not thinking things that you're not thinking about, the run about, particularly in the run up christmas . so a of up to christmas. so a couple of real tips . mobile phone real top tips. mobile phone costs. i don't mean buying a new handset . in costs. i don't mean buying a new handset. in fact, although a lot of people do buy new handsets around december and as a result, it's often around this time of year that your handset contract expired . if you did buy expired. if you did buy a handset with a new mobile phone contract a year ago or 18 months ago, and you're coming that ago, and you're coming off that contract be time contract now, it might be time to look move to a sim only to look to move to a sim only deal to look to move to a sim only

deal. typical savings about £320 to move from a handset contract to move from a handset contract to a sim only deal. if you don't need new handset this year, that's a big saving. another one is broadband contracts . it's is broadband contracts. it's very easy to let those contracts slide year after year. now when we get sorting of people's broadband, we're often able to save them more than £400. that's an average number, £429. we're typically able to save people when it comes over on the broadband contract . energy bills broadband contract. energy bills again, we're having to heat our homes now this time of year it's getting colder. don't forget , getting colder. don't forget, energy bills are going to go up again in january. so a quick tip there to get metre reading there is to get a metre reading in on or near the 31st of december. set your sort of draw a little red line in your calendar. make sure you don't forget that so that you've paid as much possible your as much as possible of your energy bills . that slightly energy bills. that slightly lower price before they go up for an average household just for an average household to just under start of under £2,000 from the start of the . energy. it's very hard the year. energy. it's very hard to save money today by going onto a fixed price deal for energy. we're currently at nous

not advising most people to do that. there are ways , if you that. there are ways, if you know where to look, to save about 100 £120 on your energy bills over the next few months. again you can go to our website, nasco or you can shop around. but there are savings to make on these boring everyday things that you have to buy but aren't thinking about. mobile broadband and look , it's and energy. but look, it's a tough time of year and the key thing is try not to overspend into christmas because you're going to you're going to wish you hadn't in january, there was going to you're going to wish y(greg.in't in january, there was a greg. >> thank you . um, some very good >> thank you. um, some very good tips there . um, there's a story tips there. um, there's a story today in the papers that boxing day sales in particular are likely to be very good this year because black friday, there weren't as many deals as people weren't as many deals as people were expecting . so, i mean, is were expecting. so, i mean, is it is it worth it? it's not very festive, i know, but is it worth saving? sort of spending too much money and waiting for those sales as that will be starting on day ? on boxing day? >> i remember when i was a kid,

one year we all tried to agree that we weren't going to buy everyone christmas presents, and everyone christmas presents, and everyone was going wait until everyone was going to wait until the days. a lovely the boxing days. it's a lovely idea, isn't it? reality is, you don't feel scrooge don't want to feel like scrooge on christmas day, so you of on christmas day, so you kind of got what got to do. got to do what you got to do. but true. we are expecting but it's true. we are expecting to some discounts in the to see some big discounts in the sales this year. part of the reason that, course, and reason for that, of course, and this know, every this is the you know, every every lining has a cloud every silver lining has a cloud is that people don't have is that people just don't have as this year they as much money this year as they did households did last year. most households are in record levels of debt. a large proportion of households are growing. proportion of households are in fuel poverty. so paid the things so after they've paid the things that they have to pay, like energy bills, they don't have enough money live, let alone enough to money live, let alone enough to money live, let alone enough money go sale enough money to go sale shopping. so i think , i think shopping. so i think, i think although discounts will although the sale discounts will be there for the, you know, for those have those fortunate enough to have cash in their wallet on boxing day, many people in the uk won't be in that fortunate position. we're expecting to see a record number of credit card defaults in the start of next year. we haven't even talked about mortgages, right? mortgage rates

still fabulously elevated still remain fabulously elevated . anyone who's to refinance . anyone who's got to refinance at any point in the next six months is expecting to their months is expecting to see their costs of their mortgage increase, probably anywhere from 3 to £5000 on average over a 12 month period. depends on how big your mortgage is, of course, and how much you have less to pay. but interest rates have not started down yet, and started to come down yet, and until do , you really want until they do, you really want to running up credit to be careful running up credit card debt, refinancing mortgages. these are very expensive things. they're things you cannot avoid. so yes, by all means enjoy the sale. shopping but please don't into debt if but please don't go into debt if you possibly it. and you can possibly avoid it. and the other thing that i like you are we try to do as kids was right. >> okay, let's try and buy all our christmas presents for next yearin our christmas presents for next year in the south. again, no one's ever managed to do this that i'm aware of, but maybe another tip people can do sort of like buy stuff this year. i mean , or is, are things going to mean, or is, are things going to improve for next christmas and things will be cheaper again? >> well, i think we can all hope

that that 2024 christmas will be a little bit less of a horror show than this year and last yeah have show than this year and last year. have been for many families. i don't want to sound too miserable in the run up to christmas. it isn't an easy penod christmas. it isn't an easy period , though, for many period, though, for many families having families who are having to stretch. lot about stretch. i've talked a lot about debt risks of getting debt and the risks of getting into we know what into debt. we all know what those are. please put off those are. please don't put off till tomorrow what you do till tomorrow what you can do today. that's going today. and that's why i'm going today. and that's why i'm going to same thing again. to say the same thing again. sort contract, to say the same thing again. sort your contract, to say the same thing again. sort your broadband contract, to say the same thing again. sort your broadband contracts, ct, sort your broadband contracts, sort your broadband contracts, sort deals. these sort your energy deals. these are the boring things. if you don't them , no one's going to don't do them, no one's going to shout at you, but you will end up overpaying use up overpaying and, you know, use a at northcote a service like ours at northcote to help keep track of all that. stay on top of it and get a bit of a helping hand. but when it comes to when it comes to christmas hacks, i mean the final couple of tips, nothing surprising. end surprising. shop towards the end of you're doing of the day, if you're doing a grocery shop, you might able grocery shop, you might be able to a last minute knock to get a few a last minute knock down prices, shop to list . down prices, shop to a list. make go to a buy own make sure you go to a buy own brand rather than a premium brand. products. it all adds up. none of it. unfortunately is a

silver bullet. but happy christmas! >> brilliant! thank you very much. and merry christmas to you and yours as well. that's greg marsh there. thank you very much for this afternoon. for joining us this afternoon. right okay. now we move on. this is an interesting story. this one, the ceo of aviva has caused a stir after saying that all white male recruits must get her sign off as part of a diversity drive. that diversity work at the company. amanda blanc told mps at the treasury select committee that harassment in financial services is worse than any other industry, and that her initiative was designed to fight sexism in finance . joining initiative was designed to fight sexism in finance .joining me sexism in finance. joining me now is the director of new culture forum, peter whittle. peter, thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. what did what did you thank you very much, especially at this time of yeah much, especially at this time of year, i'm you're year, because i'm sure you're all ready for christmas. all very ready for christmas. >> your shopping >> done all your shopping pretty much, place. much, i think, all in place. >> i hate you already. >> i hate you already. >> okay. haven't even written >> okay. i haven't even written a what make a card yet. so what do you make of amanda has said, though?

of what amanda has said, though? >> well, it's very well summed up, actually, in your intro. >> there are two points here. >> there are two points here. >> um, and both of them are outrageous, frankly. >> uh , she is saying that , uh, >> uh, she is saying that, uh, she will sign off on all senior recruits who are, as she put it, non—diverse. >> so she means white men. now, i think that's racist. if she were to say the good way of just simply working that out is to say, right. >> well, if it had been about any other if she had said, for example, i'm going to sign off on all diverse recruitment, there would have been, quite rightly, an enormous, uh, kerfuffle , an outrage. she kerfuffle, an outrage. she wouldn't be in the job now as we speak if she said that. but now , speak if she said that. but now, now it is quite acceptable. if you like to, to be anti—white in that way . the second thing, that way. the second thing, which you refer to there is that she's talking about fighting sexism in the workplace and in

employment. fine but then why is she relating it therefore to white recruitment? i mean , you white recruitment? i mean, you know, what has that got to do with that? i mean, you know, frankly, um, amongst non—white parts of our country and communities, um, there are far more ingrained sexist attitudes , more ingrained sexist attitudes, actually. um, so she seems to have crossed, uh, to two particular issues and put them together, both of them, i think, are pretty disgraceful , are pretty disgraceful, actually. the main thing is , is actually. the main thing is, is that this whole , um, ideology of that this whole, um, ideology of diversity and inclusion and eqtu diversity and inclusion and equity now goes through all of our society . basically, whether our society. basically, whether it is prime companies right through to our public bodies. and we're seeing it all more and more examples of this , as we had more examples of this, as we had the raf , for example, earlier the raf, for example, earlier this year , and that was found this year, and that was found out, you know, in a circuitous way . um, what was interesting

way. um, what was interesting about what amanda blank said here of aviva was that she was proud of this . she said it at a proud of this. she said it at a select committee , and it shows select committee, and it shows you, i think, what what a bubble these people live in. >> she was, to be fair to peter, she was talking about her experiences in the financial industry and that that is an incredibly misogynistic industry . and it is also incredibly white, male dominated at the top. now she is the first ceo of that company, first female chief executive of that company. um and i think what she is trying to and she, she also detailed in this in her testimony, some of the fairly horrific sexist, sexist abuse that she's suffered as a woman trying to make her way through, you know , you know, way through, you know, you know, starting with the minor stuff like, oh, do you the like, oh, do you wear the trousers, love? and, you know, all. you sure you're best trousers, love? and, you know, all. onr sure you're best trousers, love? and, you know, all. onr thee you're best trousers, love? and, you know, all. onr the job?�*re best trousers, love? and, you know, all. onr the job? so best trousers, love? and, you know, all. onr the job? so be sort man for the job? so that's sort of like passive aggressive sexism there. so i think surely she's trying to even out sexism there. so i think surely she old trying to even out sexism there. so i think surely she old you ying to even out sexism there. so i think surely she old you know,» even out sexism there. so i think surely she old you know, thezn out sexism there. so i think surely she old you know, the old ut sexism there. so i think surely she old you know, the old school the old you know, the old school

tie network that exists in this industry, in particular. >> you're not allowed actually to discriminate on the basis of race, religion and all of those things . you really are not. so things. you really are not. so basically, are we going to get to a position, therefore, where somehow we allow someone to effectively, i think it might even be illegal, what she's what she's doing in that case. okay. you know, and i mean, the fact is it is, uh, simply outrageous. it sends a message at a time when for example, young white boys are , without question, the boys are, without question, the lowest , uh, boys are, without question, the lowest, uh, in terms of, uh, going into higher education. we all know that . now, there is a all know that. now, there is a problem there. if you're talking about the working class young white man. >> yes, absolutely . >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> it's pretty much open season on, on on white people in that i was going to say, do you think that's interesting? was going to say, do you think tha dointeresting? was going to say, do you think tha dointerthink ? was going to say, do you think tha dointerthink that that sort >> do you think that that sort of you white are of like, you know, white men are the that everyone feels the group that everyone feels they can discriminate against? i would say, uh, well, to two groups, white men. >> yes. and certainly working class people . but let's keep it

class people. but let's keep it to this. right. and to senior recruits, course , there's recruits, of course, there's this idea now in society of white privilege. um all these ideas have been taken right on board by all of our institutions. and increasingly , institutions. and increasingly, our companies. a lot of it is virtuous signalling. but she was quite clear about what she is doing. she is signing off, or rather, people who are, as it were, non—diverse she put it, um, she has to sign off on she's quite clear about what she's doing there. and i think that frankly, it should concern us all. um, there should be a change in the law because a lot of this comes from the equality act of 2010. but but those things sort of take a long time . things sort of take a long time. um, what i would say, actually, dawn, is that basically people have got more power than they think they've got. you should just boycott these firms that do this stuff. i mean, don't go to aviva. take your policies elsewhere. but again, playing devil's advocate with amanda

here and speaking as a woman, that's sort of like come through the ranks of tabloid journalism, which you've had all these high profile haven't would profile jobs, haven't you? would you wanted just because you have wanted just because you're ? you're a woman? >> no, don't think she's >> no, i don't think she's saying peter. i think what saying that, peter. i think what she's actually saying is she's actually saying there is she's actually saying there is she trying to so many she is trying to so many companies to companies pay lip service to diversity . i mean, you know, we diversity. i mean, you know, we all know sort of like, you know, manufacture of ice and manufacture of ice cream and things like that. oh we're very inclusive diverse. but inclusive and very diverse. but if you actually look at the board they're not they board level, they're not they are exclusively white, are almost exclusively white, middle class and male. so i think least with amanda , she think at least with amanda, she is actually saying that she is determined to do something in her industry. she's not actually saying she's going to do discriminate against them, but she's get more she's trying to get more entirely discriminated. she didn't say, well, she's entirely discriminating. >> she didn't say she wasn't going to give them the job. >> she just said she was trying to. no, she was she said she would be signing off. she didn't say wasn't to give them. >> in other words, she is going to another other, uh, to apply another other, uh, standard like, or another standard if you like, or another stage , based someone's

stage, uh, based on someone's ethnicity, in this case, white men . i mean, the fact is , is men. i mean, the fact is, is that this ideology of diversity, inclusion and equity is going, as i said, to all of our society now, the problem with it all is , now, the problem with it all is, is that if you don't take people on on the basis of that need talent, they might have, and if it's purely down to those , uh, it's purely down to those, uh, criteria, then if eventually it will you know, it will show itself in the performance of the company, it will show itself . company, it will show itself. you know, they start not to do things well because their their whole in whole preoccupation is in another . another direction. >> peter whittle, a thank you, white man, thank you very much for coming on and giving this your opinion. see we're not discriminate here. we'll talk to peter thank very peter whittle. thank you very much, thank you. much, peter. thank you. appreciate now we have appreciate that. uh, now we have reached out to aviva and aviva spokesperson told us we will always hire the best person for the and ensure that aviva the job and ensure that aviva has a diverse workforce that reflects customers serve. reflects the customers we serve. last year, 57% of our senior appointments were indeed male, so actually that is what she's

saying . so thank you very much saying. so thank you very much for that. uh, you are watching and listening gb news satire with me. dawn neesom lots more coming up on today's show, but shall we take a look at what the weather's jonathan, over shall we take a look at what the weyou. r's jonathan, over to you. >> b“ e i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here gb news vautrey here of your gb news weather provided by the weather forecast provided by the met those out doing weather forecast provided by the met christmas hose out doing weather forecast provided by the met christmas shoppingdoing weather forecast provided by the met christmas shopping today, some christmas shopping today, there cloud there is a fair amount of cloud to with. some of may there is a fair amount of cloud to some with. some of may there is a fair amount of cloud to some brighterome of may there is a fair amount of cloud to some brighter breaks may see some brighter breaks occasionally throughout this afternoon, holding afternoon, and holding on to some spells into this some clear spells into this evening overnight, mainly evening and overnight, mainly across parts of england, evening and overnight, mainly acrossinto parts of england, evening and overnight, mainly acrossinto the parts of england, evening and overnight, mainly acrossinto the south of england, evening and overnight, mainly acrossinto the south of iwellind, down into the south as well a touch further the west. touch further towards the west. the will be thick enough the cloud will be thick enough for drizzly outbreaks for some drizzly outbreaks of rain, persistent rain, but the most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain be parts of rain will be across parts of north—west an north—west scotland, and an amber comes into amber weather warning comes into force potential force on sunday, with potential force on sunday, with potential for disruption. it for significant disruption. it will be a mild night underneath all cloud, parts of all the cloud, as well parts of scotland and northern ireland on up double digit figures ten up in double digit figures ten 11 c we start off the day, 11 c as we start off the day, that persistent rain then across western throughout western scotland throughout sunday weather system sunday with the weather system stuck place , allowing stuck in place, allowing a month's worth rain fall by month's worth of rain to fall by the end of the day. do take care because be some because there could be some flooding causing

flooding and landslides causing disruption. will disruption. the rain will eventually sink its way southwards into parts of northern southwest northern ireland southwest scotland, further towards northern ireland southwest sco south further towards northern ireland southwest sco south 'eastar towards northern ireland southwest sco south 'east you wards northern ireland southwest sco south 'east you will s the south and east you will likely stay drier despite the cloudy another cloudy picture. again, another mild generally between mild day, generally between 9 and 13 c into monday. that weather system will gradually sink its way south further, so we'll start to see some of that rain pushing again into northern ireland, parts of northwest england into wales, in the far south—west england as well south—west of england as well seeing a few spots and drizzles southeastern england, southeastern areas of england, staying the driest. again, relatively and mild here, relatively cloudy and mild here, but fresher conditions moving into and into the far northwest, and that's to allow that's going to allow temperatures slowly drop temperatures to slowly drop their head into temperatures to slowly drop theistart head into temperatures to slowly drop theistart of head into temperatures to slowly drop theistart of the head into temperatures to slowly drop theistart of the new1ead into temperatures to slowly drop theistart of the new working» the start of the new working week. day by. week. enjoy your day by. >> thank you very much, jonathan, and lots more coming up on today's show. we'll be crossing to the us to get the latest on politics across the pond as joe biden battles in congress his policies on the congress for his policies on the us border and ukraine. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom am and you are watching and listening to gb news, news channel

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are committed to breaking the business models of people smugglers . today's meeting comes smugglers. today's meeting comes a after 292 migrants crossed a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats. that brings the total so far this year to 29,500. the pm says it's now more important than ever to tackle illegal migration. >> if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help those who actually need our help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens , who won't anger our citizens, who won't understand why their money should have to be spent on deaung should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith, not just in us as politicians , but in our us as politicians, but in our very systems of government , us as politicians, but in our very systems of government, an idf official says. >> israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag. israel's military says troops opened fire after jotunheim, samar, tala

laka and alon shamriz were misidentified as a threat . the misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf has promised full transparency while they investigate the rac says petrol pnces investigate the rac says petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded now costs an average of 142.5 £0.07. that's a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . diesel prices have not fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of the year on the roads, with experts saying that the prices should continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas . all right, run up to christmas. all right, you'll find more on all of those stories if you visit our website at gb news.com. now let's get straight back to dawn . straight back to dawn. >> thank you. ray welcome back to gb news. saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv , online

dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. so it has been another week of political drama in america for as a long time. donald trump associate rudy giuliani was hit with an eye—watering . £116 million fine eye—watering. £116 million fine after he was judged to have defied after he was judged to have defied two poll workers by claiming they tampered with votes in 2020. upon leaving court, giuliani said, and i quote, i don't regret a damn thing. meanwhile president biden risks splitting his own party over plans to toughen border controls in exchange for republican support for more military aid to ukraine. well a lot to unpick there. so to here take us through this is us political analyst eric heim. eric, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . so joining us this afternoon. so this this this is one hell of a fine that giuliani is facing, isn't it ? isn't it? >> oh, absolutely. in fact, this is actually more money than the two plaintiffs themselves were

actually even requesting . no one actually even requesting. no one actually even requesting. no one actually saw this number coming. and of course, we know that rudy giuliani will certainly appeal this. and now it will be up to the appellate court to actually determine if this hefty fine will actually stand. >> what why do we think that the fine is so much i mean, it sounds ridiculous. money >> well, there is the money that that the two plaintiffs actually lost. and in terms of what they had to go through for having had to move out of their own home because of threats and because they were dogged by giuliani and former president donald trump, but also the punitive damages, damages which the jury actually awarded. that is what made the fines. so astro comical. and again, it's unclear for first of all, if giuliani can actually pay all, if giuliani can actually pay this. we know that he has been struggling to pay his own legal fees and we know that he's even put up several of his

properties for sale as a way to try to raise money. in addition to that, we know that there are still the criminal case that he is facing in georgia. so it's unclear if these two plaintiffs will actually see any of this money that they were recently awarded . awarded. >> so he's not having a good time of it legally at the moment, is he? i mean, that was that was a civil case, wasn't it? as far as i understand it. >> yeah. that's right. that was a civil case. he is also facing ing the criminal trial in georgia for attempting to try to thwart the election there in 2020. and even after some of the comments that he made recently, the judge in the civil case actually said that there was cause for additional potential suits by these two plaintiffs of against the former mayor of new york. it's unclear if they're going to actually continue to this case, but this was a major fine. and also to i think it speaks to where we are now

seeing both jurors as and potential voters, where they are going as it relates to 2020. and there willingness to actually come down very hard on individuals for such attacks on election workers. >> i just have to ask you, i mean, the court system in america does seem a lot more politicised than in the united kingdom. how much do you think politics has to play in this particular case? >> well, in this particular case, we have to remember it was the jurors themselves who actually came up with this number. the role of the actual judge is just to ensure that the process runs correctly and that there are no legal missteps by both sides. but it was the actual jurors who actually heard the evidence heard directly from the evidence heard directly from the plaintiffs in this case who, of course, we know testified before the january 6th committee as well, who then actually had to mete out punishment for

giuliani in this case. and we have to remember, giuliani himself did not take the stand, even though he did make clear that he was going to. but of course, we saw that he did not. and i think the thinking by giuliani has always been that he is simply not going to pay this simply because he doesn't have the means or the access to be able to do so. >> as i say, there's a lot of money and talking of our, um, politics, what's what's joe biden been up to this week, then ? >> well, joe biden has been actually focusing on a number of vexing issues , first and vexing issues, first and foremost, being the border , uh, foremost, being the border, uh, in the united states , uh, with in the united states, uh, with mexico. in addition to that, of course, we know the president has been trying to get over the finish line, a, uh, a package to both ukraine and israel, which has been very difficult to do. of course, the hold up for that has been republicans have been calling for, uh, more resources and support to the us southern

border. and so that's what we're seeing the president trying to address and trying to get done so urgently right now . so urgently right now. >> how big a problem migration seems to be the buzzword of today's show, eric. i mean, how big a issue is migration for the, uh, the american electorate ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's 7_ >> well, it's a emmm 7 >> well, it's a it's a ? >> well, it's a it's a massive issue, particularly for the republican party. and has been for quite some time . and also, for quite some time. and also, as we now see, record inflows of migration , uh, to the us migration, uh, to the us southern border , this is southern border, this is a continued to be a problem. and we're in fact, we're seeing it play we're in fact, we're seeing it play out in many cities across the united states where you're now seeing the state of texas, uh, begin to actually move many of these migrants into northern, uh, liberal or what we call blue cities in the united states, in addition to that, the governor of arizona, another border state, is also now moving national guardsmen to the border

to ensure that there are not massive inflows coming in that way. so this is becoming a crisis , this right now. that's crisis, this right now. that's why president biden actually added additional funding for the border into this emergency aid package. >> interesting. migration is a problem for all of us, isn't it? thatis problem for all of us, isn't it? that is eric ham, thank you very much for joining that is eric ham, thank you very much forjoining us with that is eric ham, thank you very much for joining us with the update on american politics. uh, you are watching and listening to gb news ofsted with me . dawn to gb news ofsted with me. dawn neesom more coming up on neesom lots more coming up on today's as protests gather today's show as protests gather in london. now for the weekly site of pro—palestine marches. we'll have the latest on the action in the capital today . all action in the capital today. all of that and much more to come . of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening. gb news at britain's news.

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now today is the national day of action for palestine and shut it down for palestine. protests are taking place across the united kingdom and abroad to show support for palestine amid the ongoing conflict between israel and the terror group hamas . meanwhile, a school is hamas. meanwhile, a school is being investigated after its teaching material asked pupils if hamas terror attack on israel was fair, with education

secretary gillian keegan saying she was horrified to see educational material attempting to justify the murderous attacks of october the 7th. uh, joining me once again is the brilliant gb news political correspondent katherine forster. um, catherine, let's start off with the today's marches again. although marches or are they just gatherings today? what's going on? >> there's some protests, but on a much smaller scale than we've got used to. pretty much every saturday from october the 7th, from a week following that on, uh, big protests . it's in uh, big protests. it's in central london, almost every week, and indeed, protests around the country and across the world. um, today there is much smaller protest taking place in camden in, um, i think we've probably got some footage of that. we can have a look at. there's also people gathered outside the israeli ambassador to the united kingdom outside her home, um, her own personal home. >> well , where she lives. right. okay. >> where where she lives. right.

her residence. yeah um, chanting. i mean, we've heard the chants over and over again . the chants over and over again. um, you know, palestine shall be free. israel is a terrorist state. also outside her house, specifically . stop killing specifically. stop killing babies, stop killing doctors, stop killing journalists on a much smaller scale than than usual. but of course , this has usual. but of course, this has now been going on for a couple of months. and the death toll is rising . it's over 18,000 people, rising. it's over 18,000 people, according to the hamas health ministry, have been killed, at two thirds of which are women and children. so a desperate situation still, although there's less focus on it. um, people are still dying in gaza all the time. and of course, there's still the israeli hostages . there's still the israeli hostages. um, there's still the israeli hostages . um, three were hostages. um, three were accidentally killed by israel the other day. >> a horrific story and we were just covering the news bulletin. now they were actually waving a white flag, desperate , isn't it? white flag, desperate, isn't it? >> so three of the people that

israel were searching for to free, um, have ended up dead, um, because of actions that israel took . and meanwhile, more israel took. and meanwhile, more controversy , even in schools . controversy, even in schools. education secretary gillian keegan has waded in after a parent put up on mumsnet that, um, basically a screenshot of teaching material that their secondary school, unnamed secondary school, unnamed secondary school, unnamed secondary school, um, has had been given asking students to comment on whether the hamas terror terror attack on october the 7th. bear in mind that hamas terrorists slaughtered . 1400 terrorists slaughtered. 1400 innocent people in the most horrific circumstances imaginable, asking the children to comment on whether hamas attack on israel was was fair and basically using the word saying hamas fighters. note the word fighters, not terrorists. hamas fighters launched an

attack on israel. they killed some and apparently 11 slides focusing on, um, israel, you know, settler violence and what what's happening in palestine . what's happening in palestine. and only one line on the holocaust and two lines on the october the 7th atrocities. so the education secretary saying she's absolutely horrified hamas, a terrorist, their actions are indefensible. and an investigation taking place . investigation taking place. >> absolutely shocking. i must admit, i saw that story and i thought i couldn't quite believe what i was reading. thank you very katherine forster. very much. katherine forster. right. okay. um, do you want some news? how would right. okay. um, do you want some to news? how would right. okay. um, do you want some to win's? how would right. okay. um, do you want some to win £10,000 how would right. okay. um, do you want some to win £10,000 inyw would right. okay. um, do you want some to win £10,000 in cash?|ld you like to win £10,000 in cash? brand shopping brand new tech and shopping vouchers. could be the vouchers. well, you could be the winner our first great winner of our very first great british giveaway . here's all the british giveaway. here's all the details of how you could make those yours those prizes. yours >> it's the great british giveaway. your chance to grab some amazing prizes and start your new year the right way. you could win an incredible £10,000

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budget due to the ongoing cost of living crisis. our scotland reporter tony mcguire took to the streets of glasgow this morning to find out just how much the cost of living crisis is impacting our spending this christmas . let's take a look. christmas. let's take a look. >> i would definitely say , you >> i would definitely say, you know, the cost of living is definitely thing, definitely a big thing, especially the moment, especially at the moment, especially at the moment, especially coming to especially coming up to christmas people that for christmas for people that for perfect example, i'm a single mum and i think the cost of living definitely affects the way that i can afford to as way that i can afford to buy as many as i would like to, many things as i would like to, not just for my son, but for my family members people that family members and people that deserve it. yeah, i think everybody's aware. like everybody's still aware. like everything know, of everything you know, the cost of stuff everything went up stuff because everything went up in because we're having to in price because we're having to import a lot of stuff in. so i think, you're just think, yeah, you're just being a bit about you're bit tentative about what you're buying and maybe just buying this year and maybe just cutting back bit cutting everybody back a bit more what you normally more than what you normally would. >> en- en— would. >> cost of living still >> it's the cost of living still an presence and your an overbearing presence and your gift choices year? gift buying choices this year? >> yes . it just >> yes. slightly, yes. it just depends. >> yes. slightly, yes. it just depends . and like i say, the

depends. and like i say, the present, whatever. >> you know, so i think it'll be with us for a while. >> do you feel it kind of easing off at all? >> very slightly. >> very slightly. >> very slightly. so >> very slightly. so it's >> very slightly. so it's cost of living still. >> uh , an issue that's i think >> uh, an issue that's i think definitely is affecting gift giving. everybody's pulling back.i giving. everybody's pulling back. i think this year because you've got to you don't want to, but you have to because things are getting so expensive. >> do you feel like this year it's got any easier? >> is it . can the burden wearing >> is it. can the burden wearing off or is it still crazy when you're choosing your gifts for friends and family? i think it's still there. i have to buy presents for a lot of people. quite a big family. and, uh, yeah, not getting any yeah, it's not getting any easier at all. um, even just like food presents for people , like food presents for people, like food presents for people, like going out for meals. christmas meals. everything is just so expensive now. so no, it's definitely a lot easier. i think it's kind of stayed the same. i've not got worse. >> so no, i just feel like i do actually have to watch what i'm spending purely because if i'm

paid, then most of it goes on bills and stuff like that , and bills and stuff like that, and then food shopping and all that stuff . stuff. >> $- stuff. >> don't know, @ don't know, i stuff. >> don't know, i just give >> but i don't know, i just give myself a limit and then if i can stay in that budget, then it's nice. >> so , uh, right, well, we've >> so, uh, right, well, we've run out of time . run out of time. >> unfortunately, you've been watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. you so much neesom. um, thank you so much for but don't go forjoining me. but don't go anywhere. don't you dare move because brilliant because they're a brilliant nana akua up and i'm back akua is up next, and i'm back tomorrow, so have a lovely evening . but let's find out what evening. but let's find out what the weather's us. the weather's doing for us. so here's with it . here's jonathan with it. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. for those out doing some christmas shopping today, there fair amount of cloud there is a fair amount of cloud to us may to contend with. some of us may see breaks see some brighter breaks occasionally throughout this afternoon, to afternoon, and holding on to some this some clear spells into this evening and overnight, mainly

across eastern england across eastern parts of england down into the south as well a touch towards west. touch further towards the west. the thick enough the cloud will be thick enough for some drizzly outbreaks of rain, most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain, but the most persistent rain will be across of rain will be across parts of north—west and north—west scotland, and an amber warning into amber weather warning comes into force potential force on sunday, with potential force on sunday, with potential for disruption. it for significant disruption. it will night underneath will be a mild night underneath all cloud as well. parts all the cloud as well. parts of scotland ireland scotland and northern ireland running digit running up in double digit figures ten as we start figures ten 11 c. as we start off day that persistent rain off the day that persistent rain then western scotland then across western scotland throughout sunday, with the weather system stuck in place, allowing a month's of rain allowing a month's worth of rain to fall by the end of the day. do take care because there could be some flooding and landslide do take care because there could be somedisruption. nd landslide do take care because there could be somedisruption. nd lrain lide causing disruption. the rain will sink its way will eventually sink its way southwards into parts of northern ireland southwest scotland, towards northern ireland southwest sco south towards northern ireland southwest sco south east, towards northern ireland southwest sco south east, you vards northern ireland southwest sco south east, you will; the south and east, you will likely despite the likely stay drier despite the cloudy again, cloudy picture. again, another mild , generally between mild day, generally between 9 and 13 c into monday. that weather system will gradually sink its way southwards further, so we'll start to see some of that rain pushing again into northern ireland. parts of northwest england into wales in the far southwest of england as well seeing a few spots and

drizzles southeastern areas of england, the driest. england, staying the driest. again, and again, relatively cloudy and mild but fresher mild here, but fresher conditions into the far conditions moving into the far northwest, and going to northwest, and that's going to allow temperatures to slowly drop we head drop their way off as we head into the start of the new working week. enjoy day working week. so enjoy your day by by warm feeling inside by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello! thank you for being a big part of gbillionews . big part of gbillionews. >> we'd like to wish you and your loved ones a christmas season full of comfort and joy, as well as a peaceful and prosperous new year. >> from our family to yours, we are proud to be your channel. >> merry christmas, happy christmas , merry christmas, christmas, merry christmas, happy christmas, merry christmas , merry christmas, merry christmas here on gbillionews the people's channel. >> merry christmas . join me >> merry christmas. join me camilla tominey from 930 on

sunday morning after a big week in westminster which saw the government cling on to win a vote on its rwanda bill, rb, joined by rishi sunaks deputy prime minister oliver dowden. i'll also be joined by shadow health secretary wes streeting and top backbench tory mark francois, the man who led the rebellion against the government this week. all that and more with me, camilla tominey at 930 on sunday morning . this.

>> hello , good afternoon and >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and, uh, for the next few hours , me and my panel will be hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. now, show is all about now, this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and course it's yours. we'll and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour advisor uh matthew laza advisor party, uh matthew laza in just a moment time, we'll be covering another round of palestine protest marches around the uk, as well as rishi sunak meeting with the italian prime minister giorgia meloni. but first, let's get your latest news with ray addison