rail fares in england regulated rail fares in england will rise from the 3rd of march, though train companies can still set their own ticket prices on unregulated . the increase unregulated fares. the increase is based on inflation, but it's being capped by the government at 4.9. well that news comes as rail passengers are facing more travel disruption as they try to get away for christmas . there get away for christmas. there are long queues for cross—channel journeys and train cancellations across the country. in the capital, paddington station is closing for four days on christmas eve and heathrow's also set to be exceptionally busy. the airport is expecting more than a quarter of a million passengers over the christmas break. a criminal investigation has been launched into the alleged abduction of alex batty, the teenager , who'd alex batty, the teenager, who'd been missing for six years, returned to the uk last week after being found in france. he disappeared when he was just 11 years old. his mother, who wasn't his legal guardian , had wasn't his legal guardian, had taken him on a pre—arranged trip to spain. greater manchester police are investigating the

case after they interviewed the 17 year old, a british student who built a drone for the so—called islamic state terror group has been jailed for life with a minimum terms of 20 years, 27 year old mohammed albert used a 3d printer at his home in coventry to make the device , designed to carry a bomb device, designed to carry a bomb or chemical weapon. on sentencing , the judge described sentencing, the judge described him as a manipulator of individual and a committed extremist. he built the drone to cause horror and destruction . in cause horror and destruction. in police in prague have confirmed that the gunman, who killed 14 people at charles university, killed himself after being surrounded on a roof. earlier, authorities released this body cam footage . cam footage. well, that footage shows officers at the scene as the gunman opened fire in corridors and classrooms . i2 corridors and classrooms. 12 people are still in a serious

condition. we understand , and at condition. we understand, and at least one is critical. police who are still trying to establish a motive say the shooter may have also killed a man and his young daughter in a forest near the capital last week . here in forest near the capital last week. here in the uk, the use of force by west midlands police officers in the course of their work has been under—reported thousands of times , as police thousands of times, as police inspectors have estimated that 46,000 incidents were under recorded for the year ending march 20th, 22. there were serious concerns about how the force investigates crime, protects vulnerable people and manages offenders and suspects . manages offenders and suspects. the force was previously placed under special measures after they'd been ruled inadequate in three out of four, three out of eight. rather, policing areas and the christmas countdown to number one is over as wham i have number one is over as wham! have made the uk's chart history , made the uk's chart history, their single last christmas has been awarded the prestigious christmas number one title, and the hit songs reached the top

spot. the hit songs reached the top spot . 39 years after it was spot. 39 years after it was released in 1984, with more than 13 million of us streaming it over the past week . that's the over the past week. that's the latest from the gb news room. for more, we've we're on. we are across rather the uk on tv, digital radio and on our website. this is gb news. >> hello and welcome to headunesis >> hello and welcome to headlines is your first look at saturday's newspaper . i'm andrew saturday's newspaper. i'm andrew doyle joining me tonight are two people on santa's naughty list stephen and alan and cressida wetton. how are you both.7 i thought you'd be dressed up in some sort of festive garb. none of though. no no. of it though. no no. >> also, i don't think we're on a naughty list. >> i don't know what lists you're on, but know i'm meant you're on, but i know i'm meant to my neighbours which to inform my neighbours which lists on. to inform my neighbours which listbut on. to inform my neighbours which list but that's a different >> but that's a different thing, isn't it.7 >> w a

w- e a i'm in a fair >> yeah. it's a i'm in a fair few lists on social media, but i didn't put myself them. didn't put myself on them. >> people anyway, we >> other people did. anyway, we won't that. let's have a won't go into that. let's have a look those pages for look at those front pages for saturday. the daily mail is leading with charles tonight. archbishop welby . the telegraph archbishop welby. the telegraph has got dyson . uk must focus on has got dyson. uk must focus on growth, not inflation. the times are running with criminals snared by new face recognition cameras. sinister stuff and the guardian has labour may curtail green plan to avert tory attack . green plan to avert tory attack. the i has uk's worst rail firms cancelled 200 trains a day, but bosses still take a bonus. it's a story as old as time. finally, the daily star. a story as old as time. finally, the daily star . are we nearly the daily star. are we nearly there yet.7 lots the daily star. are we nearly there yet? lots of travel disruption over the festive period. those were your front pages. period. those were your front pages . all right then, let's pages. all right then, let's kick off with saturday's front pages. we're going with the guardian first. steve, they're going with labour. may curtail green plan to avert tory attacks . and i'm filing this one under poor old keir starmer. can't do anything without it being wrong.

so previously on sitting here talking about the news keir starmer. he never comes up with any policies. why won't just any policies. why won't he just tell a they come up tell us a policy. they come up with a policy to us this is with a policy to tell us this is the boring 28 billion to invest in jobs . yes. well, that's in green jobs. yes. well, that's a expensive . so then he a bit expensive. so then he comes up with the idea of, well, maybe we could change it around. so borrow that so i don't need to borrow that much. oh, he's flip flopping. the you think he's flip the reason you think he's flip flopping a flopping is because he told us a policy ahead. policy so far ahead. financially, no way policy so far ahead. finan

saying, well, that's too expensive. the expensive. would you for the love flip flop, love of something, flip flop, flip he's flip flip flops. oh, he's flip flopping. yeah. so he's flip flopping. yeah. so he's flip flopping now, which flopping on demand now, which i suppose from just suppose is a step up from just flip voluntarily . the flip flopping voluntarily. the politician, it? politician, isn't it? >> think about this? >> what do you think about this? we it. right. we don't like it. all right. we'll that. yeah. we'll do that. isn't that. yeah. >> but i don't like that. >> yeah, but i don't like that. you really do believe you see, i really do believe that in 2024, can get that maybe in 2024, we can get back that all the back to this idea that all the politicians us what back to this idea that all the polit think us what back to this idea that all the politthink about us what back to this idea that all the polit think about things vhat back to this idea that all the politthink about things and what they think about things and what they think about things and what they do, irrespective of they want to do, irrespective of them to work out which them trying to work out which would secure them more votes. them trying to work out which wouithen:ure them more votes. them trying to work out which wouithen :ure electorate; votes. them trying to work out which wouithen:ure electorate knowing and then the electorate knowing what they would think can vote for candidate that for the candidate that best represents own interests. represents their own interests. wouldn't be a wonderful wouldn't that be a wonderful system arguing against or system you're arguing against or arguing populism, which system you're arguing against or athink] populism, which system you're arguing against or athink would. populism, which system you're arguing against or athink would. it'stulism, which system you're arguing against or athink would. it's anlism, which i think would. it's an interesting place to that. interesting place to do that. but that's what he doing. but that's what he is doing. he's literally saying, i want to invest. okay, the numbers not right. changing the number. invest. okay, the numbers not right not changing the number. invest. okay, the numbers not right not saying,ing the number. invest. okay, the numbers not right not saying, do the number. invest. okay, the numbers not right not saying, do you number. invest. okay, the numbers not right not saying, do you knower. he's not saying, do you know what, forget green. we're doing pink like pink jobs or something like that. changing that. he's not changing the policy. he's wrong with pink jobs, changing the jobs, steve. he's changing the number as keir starmer. is number as keir starmer. why is he billion in he not investing 28 billion in pink in fact, pink jobs? exactly. in fact, we probably pressure into probably could pressure him into it. i don't know, quite what that it's not a flip

that would be. it's not a flip flop. not flop. it's a change. it's not okay. i accept your point that it's a flip flop. but i it's not a flip flop. but i stand in that keir stand by my view in that keir starmer inveterate flip starmer is an inveterate flip flopper. >> well, this really >> well, in this story is really just repackaging same >> well, in this story is really just isn't repackaging same >> well, in this story is really just isn't it.)ackaging same idea, isn't it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> just em.- >> they're just saying, well, we can't i love this many labour officials are irritated that they defend £28 they have to defend the £28 billion being billion figure without being able say what the money will able to say what the money will be spent on. >> it's like, isn't that what we expect able to do? expect them to be able to do? that's unreasonable. well, that's unreasonable. okay well, let's the times now. let's move on to the times now. >> cressida, you've got this one. the % criminals snared by >> the times criminals snared by new recognition cameras. new face recognition cameras. we've talking about this we've been talking about this before, haven't we? this isn't a new idea, but this article is arguing that it's faster, and i guess it's cheaper. and more efficient to use these cameras than police people. than actual police people. >> this is the story that >> so this is the story that they've developed. the they've just developed. the technology is that why this is suddenly page news? suddenly front page news? >> know, most of most of the >> you know, most of most of the story stage. story at this stage. >> says ministers are pushing >> it says ministers are pushing for facial recognition for live facial recognition cameras used routinely in cameras to be used routinely in town centres. >> so i think that's the difference. >> yeah. okay. >> yeah. okay. >> going capturing >> they're going to be capturing all the time. and if all of us all the time. and if we are naughty list, then we are on a naughty list, then this make it a quicker

this will make it a lot quicker to solve the case. >> the case that we're >> is it not the case that we're already pretty much being monitored we monitored all the time? when we go town centre ? go into the town centre? >> because all know if >> because we all know that if we committed the first we committed a crime, the first thing is go back and thing they'll do is go back and look at footage of where we look at the footage of where we where been in the past? where had we been in the past? okay, steve. >> well, ask because >> well, let me ask you, because i who used to i know someone who who used to shoplift you know, as a hobby and a lifetime from shoplift you know, as a hobby a|certain a lifetime from shoplift you know, as a hobby a|certain high lifetime from shoplift you know, as a hobby a|certain high streetne from shoplift you know, as a hobby a|certain high street store. from shoplift you know, as a hobby a|certain high street store. andn a certain high street store. and when apprehended him , when they apprehended him, eventually that eventually they said to him that you'll ban, you'll have a lifetime ban, but also enter any of also if you ever enter any of our stores anywhere in the country, our computer software will your face. and, you will detect your face. and, you know, shutters will come know, the shutters will come down, the swat will come down, the swat team will come in. yeah. now, were they lying as it looks as a deterrent? because it looks like developed like they've now developed that technology. yeah. but whenever that was said, surely that sentence was said, surely it was lie. they've. that it was a lie. if they've. that was about ten years yeah. was about ten years ago. yeah. and today is that and the news story today is that they to use town they want to use it in town centres. a, it was centres. okay. it was a, it was a tv detector van thing with our shops can recognise your face. yeah. never went yeah. well he never went back into of shops again. into any of those shops again. so works. works. yeah. but so it works. it works. yeah. but is bad? look, i do is it so bad? i mean, look, i do worry about this. i worry about

being in a society where we're constantly monitored constantly being monitored by cctv. it, just cctv. i don't like it, but just in instinctive level. like in an instinctive level. like i kind also i was kind of get also that if i was a victim of crime, i'd want victim of a crime, i'd want a million cameras on me all the time. but you know, also million cameras on me all the time sayt you know, also million cameras on me all the time say if'ou know, also million cameras on me all the time say if you've w, also million cameras on me all the time say if you've got also million cameras on me all the time say if you've got nothing they say if you've got nothing to hide, you've nothing to to hide, you've got nothing to fear, i mean, don't fear, right? i mean, i don't want worry think want to worry about i think there are cameras in this room right there? so you right now. are there? so you what? you might picked the what? you might have picked the wrong mean, that's wrong career. i mean, that's chilling. don't like chilling. if you don't like being filmed, find being filmed, i find that i don't being watched. don't like being watched. no. good. you can good. well, not. yeah. you can put eye off, can't it? um, put your eye off, can't it? um, i agree agree, you can i agree with i agree, you can read thing and there's read the whole thing and there's no actually no point that actually should trigger you think, trigger the bit where you think, oh, criminals being caught oh, it's criminals being caught and with this, and i should be okay with this, but i also don't like the idea of watched because it of being watched because it won't long the front of being watched because it won't all long the front of being watched because it won't all lonwant the front of being watched because it won't all lonwant to :he front of being watched because it won't all lonwant to use ront of being watched because it won't all lonwant to use itnt of being watched because it won't all lonwant to use it to pages. all we want to use it to catch people who badly. catch people who park badly. well that's it. and the well that's that's it. and the fear all of this stuff fear is, once all of this stuff is installed, might an is installed, we might have an unscrupulous is installed, we might have an unsc might us is installed, we might have an unscmight us wants is installed, we might have an unsc might us wants to watch that might just wants to watch people. other reasons that might just wants to watch pe hide other reasons that might just wants to watch pe hide now. other reasons to hide now. >> you don't know what >> but you don't know what you're going to hide. >> no, exactly. have >> no, exactly. might have something. we don't know what will illegal or will be considered illegal or subversive years. subversive in later years. anyway, very

anyway, it's all sounding very soviet union me. let's move anyway, it's all sounding very sornoanion me. let's move anyway, it's all sounding very sornow to on me. let's move anyway, it's all sounding very sornow to the me. let's move anyway, it's all sounding very sornow to the front let's move anyway, it's all sounding very sornow to the front cover move anyway, it's all sounding very sornow to the front cover of we on now to the front cover of saturday's daily mail. steve more outrage. um, charles can't get enough of that. charles. tonight archbishop welby, uh, knighting a bishop. seems it's a chess move , isn't it? and chess move, isn't it? and somehow they've turned it into upset.isit somehow they've turned it into upset. is it an outrage story? what? it is? because in the actual story, they just list all of the things that welby said that shouldn't have said, that he shouldn't have said, that he shouldn't have said, that he's. oh, he's getting involved his opinions. and involved with his opinions. and |, involved with his opinions. and i, i it quite to easy i, i found it quite to easy ignore his opinions because you can there's no law says you can there's no law that says you have listen to the have to listen to what the religious in throughout religious people in throughout history have never expressed opinions i think this is a opinions. so i think this is a major shift for welby. you know, i didn't know it says here that he pre—marriage he did the pre—marriage counselling meghan counselling for harry and meghan . yes. >> did e- e did that go? i'm . yes. >> did that go? i'm amazed >> how did that go? i'm amazed that charles is so thrilled with him . him. >> isn't he the one who run the rehearsal the that rehearsal wedding? the one that then meghan claim they then on oprah, meghan claim they had get married in secret, had to get married in secret, not was not realising it was just a rehearsal. poor woman. i mean, i think got to know about think that's got to know about rehearsals. is she? she's a actor right? actor, right? actor and american. where they they put

more effort into the rehearsal wedding the one. wedding than the real one. as far as i can see. but, um. but, yeah. no, i take point, yeah. no, i take your point, steve. fact, even in the steve. and in fact, even in the subtitle, king honours man subtitle, king, king honours man who crowned him despite his attacks on tories. yeah. what's that? connect? i that? how does that connect? i mean, isn't member of mean, the king isn't a member of the tory party. the daily mail point of view. not just point of view. and it's not just the this idea of, the daily mail. this idea of, oh, said a thing oh, this person said a thing that i disagree with. therefore oh, this person said a thing that should'ee with. therefore oh, this person said a thing that should'ee wit be therefore oh, this person said a thing that should'ee wit be allowed to they should never be allowed to speak the only speak again. now that's the only thing about it, steve, which i would counter, is that the archbishop political archbishop has some political clout in this country. we a clout in this country. we have a system where have in system where we have bishops in the lords. they are the house of lords. they are allocated seats, not so allocated seats, not elected. so there sort of odd fusion there is that sort of odd fusion we have church and state we have between church and state represented this man who is represented by this man who is the archbishop canterbury. the archbishop of canterbury. after that after all. now that in that sense , perhaps he has more of an sense, perhaps he has more of an obugafion sense, perhaps he has more of an obligation religious figure obligation as a religious figure to back, particularly to step back, particularly when he's, the he's, you know, he described the rwanda scheme as ungodly. he he supported the northern irish protocol . all he's done various. protocol. all he's done various. yeah. worse than that. he's gone full in. he also said he was going to decolonise the church of england after the blm riots.

now i would suggest. no, i'm just we can agree or just saying we can agree or disagree opinion. and just saying we can agree or discourse, opinion. and just saying we can agree or discourse, i opinion. and just saying we can agree or discourse, i think opinion. and just saying we can agree or discourse, i think he'slion. and just saying we can agree or discourse, i think he's got and just saying we can agree or discourse, i think he's got and of course, i think he's got a right to an opinion. but given his position the his specific position as the head the national head of the national church should one connected to should one that is connected to our government , should he our government, should he perhaps schtum well, perhaps keep schtum well, whether not he should or whether or not he should or shouldn't, it's perfectly legitimate for the daily mail to have a pope, isn't it? >> given what andrew's just said, interest to said, he's he's of interest to all of us. >> but yeah, the you can argue against the points that he made. but you care that he's but why do you care that he's become knight? points become a knight? his points aren't impactful now that aren't more impactful now that he's been knighted. no, it's not as he was as if like, well, when he was just archbishop, i was just the archbishop, i was ignonng just the archbishop, i was ignoring what saying. but ignoring what he was saying. but archbishop welby, archbishop sir justin welby, wait minute. isn't wait a minute. and isn't it quite actually, quite normal, actually, for people of people to reach that kind of status, knighted anyway? status, to be knighted anyway? it's i don't think he's it's not. i don't think he's being knighted for the political or spite political or in spite of the political comments, personal services to the watch it the crown. don't watch it myself. he did. no. myself. but whatever he did. no. well, he a i think. well, he was a runner. i think. so. him. it's a good so. good for him. it's a good show. okay, move on now to show. okay, let's move on now to the star. cressida the the daily star. cressida the daily star, are we nearly there

yet? >> the country's in chaos . >> the country's in chaos. nobodyin >> the country's in chaos. nobody in britain was in the least bit surprised yesterday. >> they could have just reprinted this every year, couldn't they? >> it's the travel that we >> it's the travel story that we have christmas . um, but have at christmas. um, but they're still making lots of money. they're still making lots of moneup i was in paddington gone up 5.9. i was in paddington station today, and every single person saw had an enormous person i saw had an enormous suitcase i'm suitcase and i thought, oh, i'm glad getting on that train. >> yes, but this is the problem. there moral there is a kind of moral obugafion there is a kind of moral obligation isn't there, obligation, isn't there, to uproot entire life during uproot your entire life during the festive season , to go back the festive season, to go back and stay with relatives who who don't really like you? you know, it's just you just have a bond of dna like quite a lot of info. i'm not talking about my. look, i'm not talking about my. look, i'm going to be here all christmas, so don't worry about that. solved yeah, that. you've solved it. yeah, but no, i'm talking about but no, i'm not talking about me, talking about lot me, but i'm talking about a lot of hear a lot of of the time. i hear a lot of friends of mine complaining of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou nine complaining of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou know,)mplaining of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou know, inplaining of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou know, i onlyning of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou know, i only gog of the time. i hear a lot of friendsyou know, i only go home about, you know, i only go home to and you know, to be patronised, and you know, to be patronised, and you know, to last turkey to fight over the last turkey leg it is you leg or whatever it is you carnivores eat. there's a bizarre thing that happened and my anymore, my folks aren't around anymore, but revert but i used to basically revert to teenage regardless of how to teenage me regardless of how old was . teenage me in

old i was. i was teenage me in that exactly exactly. and that house. exactly exactly. and that's it's that's it's a problem. it's freudian . it's weird. yeah, freudian. it's weird. yeah, it is but is just is weird. but this is just one, you a couple a you know, a couple of days a yeah you know, a couple of days a year. yes enough. okay, year. yes fair enough. okay, well, being a bit of a well, maybe i'm being a bit of a scrooge there. well, look, that's the part. and that's the first part. over and done coming up, we're done with. but coming up, we're going to be talking rishi going to be talking about rishi sunak old wounds, sunak backtracking old wounds, re—emerging and re—emerging in ireland and asylum seekers wanting to return home for christmas . do not go

radio. >> okay. welcome back to headliners with me, andrew doyle. >> i'm still joined by comedian steve n allen and cressida wetton . so we're going to start wetton. so we're going to start this section with saturday's mail rishi sunak backtracking again steve. yeah, let me say more things that will annoy people. um, so it's a tory alarm. that's why you're here, steve. i've one of those steve. i've been one of those moods just moods today as well. i've just supported keir for ages supported keir starmer for ages just wind people let's supported keir starmer for ages just wwe people let's supported keir starmer for ages just wwe go ople let's supported keir starmer for ages just wwe go with let's supported keir starmer for ages just wwe go with this.et's supported keir starmer for ages just wwe go with this one. see how we go with this one. rishi sunak watering down the biggest immigration kerb biggest ever immigration kerb that of money that changed the amount of money that changed the amount of money that well, that you'd require. um, well, in terms earnings of earnings, terms of earnings of earnings, to spouse come over here

to have a spouse come over here and because that figure hadn't changed for a long while and then suddenly jumped up, it should increased should have actually increased every they should something they should have looked very low looked at, but it was very low for wasn't it? it was for a while, wasn't it? it was a bit. it was what you get on a paper round. basically, you're supposed to be able bring supposed to be able to bring up kids yeah, know kids on that. yeah, i know that's ridiculous, but it does mean having set higher mean by having it set higher that if are young, tend that if you are young, you tend to then you can't go to earn less then you can't go abroad, someone, in abroad, meet someone, fall in love, and the government says, actually, allowed actually, no, you're not allowed that person. but, um, the just the that i want to say the thing that i want to say that's is, of course that's annoying is, of course this happening. were this is happening. they were trying without this is happening. they were try getting without this is happening. they were try getting all without this is happening. they were try getting all angry without this is happening. they were try getting all angry with(it, us getting all angry about it, because there are two things the government do. is government needs to do. one is keep because keep having migration because they're and they're obsessed with gdp and increase gdp, we're increase us gdp, and we're hooked 3% growth year on hooked on this 3% growth year on yeah hooked on this 3% growth year on year. unless you're actually hooked on this 3% growth year on year. to unless you're actually hooked on this 3% growth year on year. to d01less you're actually hooked on this 3% growth year on year. to do somethings actually hooked on this 3% growth year on year. to do something long ally going to do something long terme, you kerb migration, terme, if you kerb migration, you'll reduction gdp. you'll get a reduction in gdp. no be that prime no one wants to be that prime minister. doing minister. so what they're doing is migration but is wanting migration, but they know they look like know that they have to look like they're tough on migration. so they're tough on migration. so they with policies they're tough on migration. so th

the point i was making earlier about politicians not being the point i was making earlier aboutaboutcians not being the point i was making earlier aboutabout their not being the point i was making earlier aboutabout their objectives. ing open about their objectives. yeah, is problem. yeah, i mean, that is a problem. if are mean, it would if they are i mean, it would explain why the numbers have been degree that been soaring to the degree that they haven't we reached they have but haven't we reached a kind tipping where a kind of tipping point where the patience the electorate's patience is basically you basically expired? and, you know, mean, numbers are so know, i mean, the numbers are so huge stage that i think huge at this stage that i think people are just sick of it. cressida, do you think? absolutely and sort of feels bit >> and this sort of feels a bit like zero, it, in like net zero, doesn't it, in that they've one thing and that they've said one thing and then it's like, we're then it's like, oh no, we're going to it in phases. going to do it in phases. >> going to back off >> we're just going to back off a bit. >> we're just going to back off a and bit. >> we're just going to back off a and uh, and yes, the other >> and uh, and yes, the other thing is, i mean, ijust think about the people are about the people that are actually, happening actually, uh, this is happening to suspense must be to i mean, the suspense must be horrendous know. horrendous to not know. >> that's right. >> yeah, yeah. that's right. >> yeah, yeah. that's right. >> chunks of money. you >> big chunks of money. you can't just suddenly increase your by ten grand your income by ten grand or whatever. it's whatever. yeah, no, i mean, it's a amount, isn't a significant amount, isn't it, that get to do that you would have to get to do this, it looks like knee this, but it looks like a knee jerk reaction. this, but it looks like a knee jeri

students, in students, you need people in care you nurses, you care homes, you need nurses, you need spouses. someone who's need spouses. to someone who's over to less over here going to be less economically you economically impactful so you can first. but even can attack them first. but even then they're backing the then they're backing off the numbers. let's move numbers. okay, well, let's move on now. cressida. on to the express now. cressida. um is of surprising. um this is kind of surprising. asylum seekers taking trips home for christmas . for christmas. >> it's a little bit funny, isn't it? um, asylum seekers stopped at airport trying to leave britain and go home for the holidays. so these are people are claiming that people who are claiming that they can't go to their they can't go back to their country of because it country of origin because it wouldn't safe. who knows what wouldn't be safe. who knows what wouldn't be safe. who knows what would them, they would happen to them, but they can for a couple of can go back for a couple of weeks quick the weeks for a quick break. the only thing would say is it only thing i would say is it doesn't give specific numbers in here. force here. and so this border force guy, douglas, he's guy, uh, phil douglas, he's he's saying of saying he's had lots of experience of this, but if you were it happened to you were him and it happened to you three times, you'd feel it three times, you'd feel like it had happened lot, wouldn't had happened a lot, wouldn't you? actually so. had happened a lot, wouldn't you not actually so. had happened a lot, wouldn't you not saying actually so. had happened a lot, wouldn't you not saying thisrally so. had happened a lot, wouldn't you not saying this is ly so. had happened a lot, wouldn't you not saying this is happening i'm not saying this is happening en masse. it's very funny. >> it is kind of brazen. i mean, so james cleverly here quoted so james cleverly here is quoted here claimed that here because he's claimed that what some people what did he say? some people coming the uk are economic coming to the uk are economic migrants really? i think we know

that the that by now, don't we? now the thing you are thing about this is, if you are an masquerading an economic migrant masquerading as an asylum seeker and saying that can't go home because that you can't go home because it is either war torn or you're that you can't go home because it significant|r torn or you're that you can't go home because it significant physical you're that you can't go home because it significant physical danger, in significant physical danger, if so then you go if you do so and then you go home a christmas break, home for a christmas break, you're the worst fraud ever. i mean, that's just really bad, fraudulent although fraudulent behaviour. although as we all know, wars stop around christmas for quick of christmas for a quick game of football. they as as football. they do so as long as you during bit, you visit during that bit, you're that's you're fine. that's that's probably on. probably what's going on. actually, completely take back actually, i completely take back everything i've said. i think that's reasonable. that's totally reasonable. okay, so move on now to this so let's move on now to this story. daily story. this is, uh, the daily mail and we've got a story about ireland. steve, you got this? yep. suella braverman out yep. suella braverman hits out at threatened, at ireland's threatened, threatened action in threatened legal action in relation the troubles and relation to the troubles and calls the uk to leave the calls for the uk to leave the echr. um, i can i can simplify this for you. okay so this is about, um, britain deciding that legally you can't take legal action against us because of the troubles, whereas ireland then thinks it's illegal that we've had the legal action about that and is going to take it to the echr to work out if it's legal that clear up for you? sort

that clear it up for you? sort of clear. i mean, really, this is part truth and is part of the truth and reconciliation program, which is ongoing. ongoing ongoing. it's been ongoing really the friday really since the good friday agreement. you know, you had hundreds members hundreds of members of paramilitary forces released under , and they are now under that, and they are now free. i mean, hear ex—ira free. i mean, you hear ex—ira members boasting about their terrorist activities because they know they cannot face any consequences for it. now, the point here is that the uk , point here is that the uk, within this new act has also said, there should be said, well, there should be a kind for members of kind of amnesty for members of the forces. now now, the security forces. now now, cressida, think what's cressida, i kind of think what's annoying people is the hypocrisy. i think think hypocrisy. like i think i think that's actually probably fair enough. to enough. if you're going to effectively that people effectively say that people who've are not subject to activity are not subject to claims from even from families, even from victims families, then you know , maybe that has to be you know, maybe that has to be extended to all parties in the conflict. >> i would say so. and also this it's a long time now, isn't it? it's 25 years. i think, this yeah it's 25 years. i think, this year. um and i think, am i right in saying some the people in saying some of the people that in this that are interested in this topic now wouldn't have even been around during first. been around during the first. it's that long ago. and i just

well , it's, you know, it's all well, it's, you know, it's all of these things. >> it is very horrible when you talk people people talk to people who lost people dunng talk to people who lost people during troubles. i've done during the troubles. i've done that many times, you from that many times, you know, from all conflict. you all sides of the conflict. you know, this sense of know, there is this sense of injustice. they see the killers of their family members free out on the streets. you know, they run into the local areas run into them in the local areas . the belfast and derry are not big cities, you know. so, so when that happens, it's just a horrible thing to experience. if you take bloody sunday, of course, relatives justice. course, relatives want justice. i mean, that an outrage . uh, i mean, that was an outrage. uh, more murder, let's call it what it was. and just to the idea that those people should shouldn't be held accountable is just it's like an extra knife in the heart, isn't it? if you like legal action, go on forever. which is the point. could then you you prolong the problem. the problem that no one wants is. isn't that what government's isn't that what the government's trying then? the trying to do? then? isn't the government effectively saying, you and you know, let's just try and draw under it. let's try draw a line under it. let's try and move on. and i don't know if this the dublin government this by the dublin government is really is it. really going to help. is it. >> no, exactly. don't >> well, no, exactly. i don't

know draw line. and know how you draw a line. and what i heard what i'm saying is i heard a podcast about this a few months ago and they were talking about young kind joining young men kind of joining this cause that they cause for something that they people 20 might not people in their 20 might not have sort have been involved in, but sort of something, of wanting to join something, wanting a cause, wanting wanting to have a cause, wanting to to something historic to belong to something historic but not actually having not actually but not actually having not actlscale the violence the scale of the violence and seeing things happening. >> yeah, yeah, it's you're >> yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you're right. time ago. right. it's a long time ago. maybe but back to this maybe but i come back to this point, i just don't think i think it's the disproportionate element so much element of this. i think so much of time for in northern of police time for in northern ireland these ireland is spent on, uh, these backlog of a historic accusations against security forces , very little on forces, very little on republican terrorists say, you know, very small amounts. so you know, very small amounts. so you know, i think it's a disparity that's the problem. okay. anyway, let's move on to this next this is the next story. this is the independent labour mp in trouble for racism. what's this? mps suspended for using racist slur claims anti—racism course on expenses. >> expenses. >> so this is wait. >> so this is wait. >> talk me through what happened here. we need a timeline here. christopher. >> he he was. >> he he was. >> this is neil coyle . >> this is neil coyle. >> this is neil coyle.

>> this is neil coyle and i. i don't think i should read out the things he said, but it was you know we hear we often hear things said and they're things being said and they're accused and was it accused of racism. and was it wasn't what said was wasn't it. what he said was entirely and entirely inappropriate. and he admits that. and he was drunk at the it was was very the time. and it was it was very naff language. he did it. naff language. so he did do it. yeah. got told to go yeah. and he then got told to go on of these courses. um, on one of these courses. um, what it called, unconscious what is it called, unconscious bias so who sent bias training. yes. so who sent on course? and costs on the course? and it costs about and put it on his expenses. >> expenses. >> that's so cheeky. it's so cheeky. >> and what i find really interesting are interesting is that people are so outraged by this, but they're not talking about the, the fact that he didn't learn anything. they are saying things like, um , they are saying things like, um, it looks like someone who's gone through the motions . there needs through the motions. there needs to penance. you have to foot to be penance. you have to foot the bill for the penance so they keep these words like keep using these words like penance. like they're penance. and it's like they're not saying, but did he did he come home changed come home a changed man? >> you know he >> yeah, but you know why he didn't. is because didn't. cressida is because unconscious training does didn't. cressida is because uncwork. us training does didn't. cressida is because uncwork. us been aining does didn't. cressida is because uncwork. us been debunked s didn't. cressida is because uncwork. us been debunked a not work. it's been debunked a million times. it's a completely useless everyone's useless waste of everyone's time. is merely performative. time. it is merely performative. you know, he he's admitted that

he said these slurs , these he said these slurs, these racist or at least a racially insensitive terminology when drunk. the way to do that is to acknowledge it and say, i'm sorry not to go to some pointless, uh, performative pointless, uh, perform ative course pointless, uh, performative course which does absolutely nothing . i think it's also true nothing. i think it's also true to say, and i know we can't read out what he said, but it's go and google it and have a look, because there is no way he was unconscious of that bias. no, exactly those words. was very exactly those words. he was very conscious. well, exactly, exactly. so actually it's a double course itself double whammy. the course itself doesn't uh, but but it doesn't work. uh, but but it wasn't even unconscious . it's. wasn't even unconscious. it's. yeah. no, you're right. i don't think it was at all. >> £300 to get rid of all your racist. i mean, think of all the difficult uncles could difficult old uncles you could just clean up for 300. brilliant. >> but that actually isn't the really story here. the gall really the story here. the gall of the man to charge the taxpayer for his own punishment. yeah.i taxpayer for his own punishment. yeah. i mean, that's what it was really. it wasn't really. no one thought that he could get him going course would going on this course would prevent ever doing prevent him from ever doing this in a in the future. it was a punishment . in the future. it was a punishment. it was a humiliation. it was ritual. it

humiliation. it was a ritual. it was to one of those was like going to one of those courses. you've gone over courses. when you've gone over the think it will the speed limit, i think it will stop him doing it again. >> exactly right reasons. >> no. well will it now? i mean, isn't going to get punished isn't he going to get punished for charging taxpayer isn't he going to get punished for ciinging taxpayer isn't he going to get punished for ciin the taxpayer isn't he going to get punished for ciin the tax he (er later in the article, he actually he's glad it actually says that he's glad it happenedin actually says that he's glad it happened in a sense, because it made him cut back on his drinking. he realised he had a problem. changed, you problem. so he's changed, you know. well, that's quite that's good. course good. it wasn't the course that did no. he was probably. did it. no. he was probably. well were certainly paying well we were certainly paying for that alcohol for some of that alcohol anyway because subsidised. because it was subsidised. so in many ways we've learned some of the back that we've had to the money back that we've had to pay the money back that we've had to pay taxpayers for his pay as taxpayers for his punishment. well, thankfully i never embarrassing punishment. well, thankfully i never i'm embarrassing punishment. well, thankfully i never i'm so embarrassing punishment. well, thankfully i never i'm so i'miarrassing punishment. well, thankfully i neveri'm so i'm not ssing when i'm drunk, so i'm not worried that. let's worried about that. okay, let's move the story. um. move on to the next story. um. oh, haven't got time in oh, no, we haven't got time in this section, unfortunately. we'll on. but coming up we'll move on. but coming up after we're to after the break, we're going to be an mp declaring be talking about an mp declaring war on mumsnet. price start being and apparently being stolen and apparently working 9 to 5 is overrated. find out more

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>> welcome back to headliners your first look at saturday's newspapers, the guardian now with a story about a what is this, a food black market. yes. >> britain's increasingly turning to food. black market experts say. so apparently meat, cheese and confectionery are among items being stolen in large quantities and the guardian is saying this is because of the cost of living crisis . um, because of the cost of living crisis. um, it says because of the cost of living crisis . um, it says retailers crisis. um, it says retailers are reporting a record year for shoplifting , costing the shoplifting, costing the industry £1 billion. this year. home office data shows the crime has reached the highest level since records began. uh while the proportion of shoplifting shoplifting incidents that result in a charge has fallen, i wonder if that's got anything to do with it as well. um because it's a huge cost to the consumer as well, because they end up putting their hiking their pnces the putting their hiking their prices the board . prices up across the board. >> i really hate shoplifters. can they are just my can i just say they are just my absolute noire. i didn't absolute bete noire. i didn't realise how hated them realise how much i hated them until to go to. there's until i used to go to. there's a co—op hackney, my missus used co—op in hackney, my missus used to live nearby i've been to live nearby and i've been stood there so many. there's stood in there so many. there's a shoplifting. the

a lot of shoplifting. and the thing bothered me thing that really bothered me was me longer was how it took me longer to queue than it did for these shoplifters to in out shoplifters to get in and out of their would their stuff, and no one would try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wasting my time queuing up to try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wast you ny time queuing up to try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wast you ny tbeep|ueuing up to try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wast you ny tbeep at uing up to try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wast you ny tbeep at the| up to try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wast you ny tbeep at the endto try and stop them. i'm like, i'm wastyou ny tbeep at the end of give you my beep at the end of this. other problem. this. this is the other problem. people don't stop them. but i tell you, a couple of tell you, i a couple of christmases i at home. christmases ago i was at home. my christmases ago i was at home. my at the supermarket. my mum were at the supermarket. there was who had there was a guy who was who had stacked these of stacked up all these boxes of like, put a bottle like, wine, and he put a bottle of whisky behind it in the trolley. and mother just trolley. and my mother just said, missed that said, oh, you've missed that there. gutted. there. and he was gutted. and i thought, good for her. it's called nesting, apparently. what's you called nesting, apparently. whethe you called nesting, apparently. whethe cheap you called nesting, apparently. whethe cheap stuff, you you called nesting, apparently. whethe cheap stuff, you put you called nesting, apparently. whethe cheap stuff, you put the put the cheap stuff, you put the nappies the toilet, roll nappies and the toilet, roll around oh, around the scotch and say, oh, just beat that. around the scotch and say, oh, justnot beat that. around the scotch and say, oh, just not thatt that. around the scotch and say, oh, justnot that west. around the scotch and say, oh, justnot that i've ever done it. >> not that i've ever done it. i'm just. >> you sound suspiciously knowledgeable this. >> you sound suspiciously knounusual3le this. >> you sound suspiciously knounusual friends. this. >> you sound suspiciously knounusual friends. thisit's >> you sound suspiciously knolit'ssual friends. thisit's >> you sound suspiciously knolit'ssual not1ds. thisit's >> you sound suspiciously knolit'ssual not moral.1isit's >> you sound suspiciously knowell,jal not moral.1isit's >> you sound suspiciously knowell, i|l not moral.1isit's >> you sound suspiciously knowell, i|l not care|l.1isit's >> you sound suspiciously knowell, i|l not care if1isit's >> you sound suspiciously knowell, i|l not care if you're >> well, i don't care if you're ripping off supermarket. ripping off a supermarket. >> and apparently it says here that you can that people that you can neutralise by buying neutralise the crime by buying stuff fell lorry, no stuff that fell off a lorry, no questions kind of, questions asked. like kind of, what called? boy what was it called? del boy trotter makes people trotter style. that makes people feel okay. they'll feel it's okay. so they'll knowingly . or is it feel it's okay. so they'll knowingly. or is it just picking on poor ? on the poor? >> know, i don't like it

>> i don't know, i don't like it at not steal at all. thou shalt not steal somebody said once, can't remember who it was. okay, let's move now to the daily mail. move on now to the daily mail. uh, many want to join the army to see the world, but they end up job. yeah army up in an office job. yeah army moves of troops to moves hundreds of troops to the front line. from front line to recruitment officers. because the too the force is shrinking too quickly. the idea is to quickly. so the idea is to deploy instead of just getting actual specialised recruits . actual specialised recruits. yes. to deploy front line soldiers into the recruitment recruitment offices. i don't know if it's the idea of, you know, you'll more likely sign up if there's someone there with a gun. i mean, it's not. the idea is that they just need more manpower you look manpower to do it. if you look at the numbers, it is really bad. we're at an incredibly small force. very small armed force. we are very small, to small, but we're not going to attract to army. attract more people to the army. if an office job. yeah, if it's an office job. yeah, people do join up for, although i of the problem is i think part of the problem is it's don't believe that it's it's we don't believe that it's about seeing the world. i think actually now are a few of actually now there are a few of people sign up people wanting to sign up because actually because wars are actually happening. a happening. yeah, there's been a big up, but nobody's big long slice up, but nobody's celebrating soldiers. >> i mean, wars were happening

in other times, weren't they? and no . so i mean, and there's no. so i mean, what's point of being a what's the point of being a soldier if you're not going to what's the point of being a sola er if you're not going to what's the point of being a sola hero?ou're not going to what's the point of being a sola hero? isn't not going to what's the point of being a sola hero? isn't thatgoing to what's the point of being a sola hero? isn't that part| to what's the point of being a sola hero? isn't that part of» it? >> i mean, i assume that's part of the allure. i've never wanted to so i would have to be a soldier, so i would have to be a soldier, so i would have to ask people why they do it. >> i mean, isn't we >> but i mean, isn't it? we don't have culture of thank don't have a culture of thank you your service like they you for your service like they do we need to do in america. do we need to matter? m atter? >> e“- e bring back >> should we bring back conscription? think, conscription? what do you think, steve? did hear steve? no. although i did hear an interesting thing about national should be national service should be viewed for all of the main because for all of the main thing it did was teach people to read. when the education system wasn't doing stuff, it was filling so it's less filling a gap. so it's less about the daily mail would say it's give it's about discipline and give them all that. them a slap and all that. actually, it was about furthering education. >> because they >> didn't they read because they were disciplined were it was a disciplined environment keep having were it was a disciplined environabout keep having were it was a disciplined environabout kids keep having were it was a disciplined environabout kids beingp having stories about kids being excluded school not excluded from school and not learning sounds learning anything. and it sounds like what you're saying is they might more structured might learn more in a structured environment . environment. >> i think that's true. and there's lots of good arguments >> i think that's true. and theconscription,)od arguments >> i think that's true. and the conscription, not arguments >> i think that's true. and the conscription, not least|ents >> i think that's true. and the conscription, not least that for conscription, not least that politicians of start politicians won't sort of start a legal wars where they might put their own offspring in in

dangeh put their own offspring in in danger, but i would say this this problem with this is the other problem with the that the posh the army, that the posh people go place and go in at a different place and never kind of threat. never see any kind of threat. they that's true around his they just that's true around his offices, it's the offices, whereas it's the working are working class people who are lives the lives that are risked. the someone cannon fodder, someone else is cannon fodder, they yeah, yeah. they call them. yeah, yeah. very sad move on to the sad. okay, let's move on to the independent . a labour independent now then. a labour mp has declared war on mumsnet. chris, complicated story. >> this one labour mp dawn butler to report mumsnet to butler vows to report mumsnet to police in transphobia row . so, police in transphobia row. so, uh, you'll have to explain from the start because there's a few steps to this. yeah. um, is the absolutely tragic murder of a teenager called brianna. guy who was a trans , uh, woman, trans was a trans, uh, woman, trans girl , i was a trans, uh, woman, trans girl, i should was a trans, uh, woman, trans girl , i should say. was a trans, uh, woman, trans girl, i should say. um, now , girl, i should say. um, now, when dawn butler spoke about this publicly , she implied that this publicly, she implied that part of the motive for brianna being murdered was the fact that she was trans . yes. and it's she was trans. yes. and it's pretty much proved now that that's not the case, because the murderers had a list of potential suspects. the others weren't trans . weren't trans. >> i mean, i have to say,

reading some of the details of the court case, it's so disturbing. i mean, these were clearly very disturbed individuals, very kind of. they had psychopathic fantasies and just and they had even said in their whatsapp messages , if it their whatsapp messages, if it wasn't brianna, it would be someone else. i think it wasn't , someone else. i think it wasn't, you know, and actually the police had had completely said, look , this isn't a transphobic look, this isn't a transphobic attack. i think 48 hours after the murder itself . the worry is the murder itself. the worry is that people are weaponizing it. well, this is it. you know, because mumsnet are complaining about miss has, about the way miss butler has, has talked about this. yes. a number of a number of commentators have effectively tried to blame gender critical feminists for this murder, which strikes it just deep, strikes me as it just deep, morally and just just morally repugnant and just just really irresponsible . and for an really irresponsible. and for an elected mp to do it, i think is pretty grim. and then for her to claim that she's to call claim that she's going to call the police on her critics, i mean, this is just control, said go for it. >> you know, you said we've got an active moderation team. it's mumsnet. an active mumsnet. it is an active moderation

mumsnet. it is an active morthetion mumsnet. it is an active morthe yeah i know. let's check got the yeah i know. let's check on this. i mean i can't be the only one who feels squeamish when people weaponize this kind of murder . of tragic, horrific murder. >> it actually >> indeed. and it actually should be allowed to be wrong. and have arguments online and have the arguments online without falling into this without then falling into this victim mentality of someone's disagree with me. someone's called me out being called me out on being wrong. i'm call the police on i'm going to call the police on the website kind of the website. the website kind of does the same back saying, oh, other said worse other people have said worse things we being other people have said worse things on we being other people have said worse things on because we being other people have said worse things on because we're being other people have said worse things on because we're mainly picked on because we're mainly women? play that women? did you have to play that card? feels like everyone's card? it feels like everyone's going into their corner see going into their corner to see who's victim here, who's the biggest victim here, whereas the space to whereas actually the space to have is in the have the discussion is in the middle to out the middle to work out what the truth let's not forget, truth is. and let's not forget, the is the real victim of this is brianna, absolutely, absolutely horrific , horrible um, horrific, horrible crime. um, okay, let's move on now to the telegraph graph. uh, now, banksy . steve, i'm not a big banksy fan . all right. and actually, fan. all right. and actually, this latest piece, uh, doesn't really , you know, inspire me , if really, you know, inspire me, if i'm honest. good news then, because it got nicked. so this new banksy installation in taken within an hour of its creation .

within an hour of its creation. so it's a stop sign with some aeroplanes on it, which are meant to be war planes. and it's about stopping war, guess. is about stopping war, i guess. is the thing. uh, he's always been subtle . yeah, as an artist, he subtle. yeah, as an artist, he works on many levels that one anyway. and, yeah, someone went along and nicked it. and what i like about it is they weren't long tried to get it off the wall. couldn't disappeared in a few minutes later. came back with bolt cutters . here's the with bolt cutters. here's the picture, by the if want picture, by the way, if you want to feels like that bloke to see who feels like that bloke from the ladder story recently, doesn't from the ladder story recently, doethe trying the >> the guy's trying to get the flag then one of them flag down, and then one of them just a ladder out of just pulled a ladder out of nowhere. and where have you got bolt nowhere. and where have you got bol'two minutes away from bolt >> two minutes away from bolt cutters everyday life. cutters in their everyday life. the apparently the crowd apparently disagreed. they were shouting stop! i imagine going, yeah, they were shouting stop! i ima read going, yeah, they were shouting stop! i ima read and going, yeah, they were shouting stop! i ima read and you oing, yeah, they were shouting stop! i ima read and you just. yeah, they were shouting stop! i ima read and you just naming the can read and you just naming the thing nicking. i mean, you thing i'm nicking. i mean, you know, it's not very know, artistically it's not very good. um, maybe it good. um, maybe this, maybe it was who taking was an art critic who was taking it somebody. it down or somebody. >> crisis , the cost of >> the crisis, the cost of living crisis. can't afford to go art. yes. or an go and buy art. yes. or an actual stop sign. >> you can't afford your own. yeah. if you don't want your art to from the street,

to be nicked from the street, i don't it uh, yeah. don't know. put it in. uh, yeah. gallery gallery. gallery yeah. gallery. >> blaming. that's >> stop victim blaming. that's where work. that's where banksy has to work. that's what he is. >> idea that the >> and the idea that the newspapers interview newspapers believe the interview where his name is robbie. >> it's not. it's a pun. >> course it's not. it's a pun. why you falling for robbing why are you falling for robbing banks? robbie banks? of course. that's a pun . and they're all that's a pun. and they're all going. oh, no, he's actually. his how steve? i his name is robbie. how steve? i despair as well. okay, well, let's finish this section now with the metro 9 to 5. cressida give us a give us a chorus woman who said that? >> 9 to 5 is crazy. loses her job. this is the woman. i don't know if you've all seen this lady's work. she's previously appeared on the internet crying , appeared on the internet crying, making some really good points. but can all just agree? we but can we all just agree? we should have on spot should have on the spot fines for people crying social for people crying on social media she's media right now? yeah, she's making point. she she making a good point. she she talks the fact in a, talks about the fact that in a, in standard 9 to 5 job with in a standard 9 to 5 job with travel being able to travel and not being able to afford live in the city and afford to live in the city and all the rest of it, the life's very difficult you haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime cult you haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime to .t you haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime to do you haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime to do alllou haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime to do all the haven't all the rest of it, the life's verytime to do all the things got time to do all the things you'd do. but she does you'd like to do. but she does that while looking very attractive, having

that while looking very attrac'amazing having that while looking very attrac'amazing nails having that while looking very attrac'amazing nails that ing these amazing nails that i think, well, that didn't take five so she five minutes, did it? so she kind her own kind of undermines her own point. now been point. anyway. she's now been fired, thing fired, but but this is the thing about kind of videos. about those kind of videos. >> know, it's the idea that >> you know, it's the idea that a young person goes into the world, actually gets 9 5 world, actually gets a 9 to 5 job, realises they can't just stay day like they stay in bed all day like they did at university. that's a pretty experience. did at university. that's a prettymost experience. did at university. that's a prettymost of experience. did at university. that's a prettymost of us xperience. did at university. that's a prettymost of us havesnce. did at university. that's a prettymost of us have had that. think most of us have had that. but of course we didn't have smartphones to record our grief and it out there. of course, and put it out there. of course, like you say, she was not doing that. getting clicks, that. she was getting clicks, wasn't some people wasn't she? i mean, some people have defending her. have really been defending her. >> that >> um, connor tomlinson, that comes on show, this comes on this show, not this show, lot. he show, this channel, a lot. he was the fact that show, this channel, a lot. he washaven't the fact that show, this channel, a lot. he washaven't evolvedhe fact that show, this channel, a lot. he washaven't evolved forfact that show, this channel, a lot. he washaven't evolved for women to we haven't evolved for women to be around many strange men be around so many strange men and are very stressful. and cities are very stressful. and thought, well, yes, and i thought, well, yes, you know, louis. i sort know, i work with louis. i sort of it, don't think of get it, but i don't think we're that delicate. so think we're that delicate. so i think she would have made a much better point she'd been a bit better point if she'd been a bit bolder, probably have better point if she'd been a bit bol i mean, no, i mean, i've got nothing against her because i think that think she's part of that generation you do emote generation where you do emote online. it's considered quite fashionable. how fashionable. that's part of how you the you commodify yourself for the for consumption. yeah, for public consumption. yeah, yeah. first yeah. i mean, when i first

started and started working and was exhausted and nails were exhausted and my nails were nowhere i kept it nowhere near as good, i kept it to myself. but i do want to. i know i am turning into a grumpy old but thank heavens old man, but thank heavens for generation z for making millennials because for millennials bearable because for ages were the generation ages they were the generation going. they've lost plot and going. they've lost the plot and then gen z come along and cry about. i had to work from 9 to 5 and that's. yeah. but i think actually gen z, if we're going to them that, they are now, to call them that, they are now, they're polarised than they're more polarised than the millennials. the millennials. you know, the millennials. you know, the millennials of millennials were just sort of stunned, like just as a standard were annoying were just kind of annoying and whingy the generation z whingy. whereas the generation z seem be this extreme seem to be either this extreme version of what the millennials were or a kind really were or a kind of really reactionary kind of 1950s dresses and stay at home. yeah. tradwife kind of like , i mean, tradwife kind of like, i mean, it's weird. they just they're just polarise as a generation. so, you know , i know we've so, you know, i know we've always been that weird, but we just that video to just couldn't get that video to people quick. i'm so people really quick. i'm so relieved didn't grow up relieved that i didn't grow up in the era of smartphones. i'd be i'd be in prison be in prison. i'd be in prison by basically. by now, basically. >> know, so ashamed >> you know, i'd be so ashamed i couldn't leave the house. >> no, no. well, that's

>> no, no. okay, well, that's all for in this all we've got time for in this section. but coming up, why? you shouldn't big announcements section. but coming up, why? you sh christmas. big announcements section. but coming up, why? you sh christmas. theig announcements section. but coming up, why? you sh christmas. the christmas ements at christmas. the christmas number and why driving home number one. and why driving home for christmas is killing the planet. see you in a

welcome back to headliners with me, andrew doyle. it's your first look at saturday's newspapers . so we're going to newspapers. so we're going to kick this section off with the telegraph. now, uh, a message for people who want to make big announcements this christmas. steve. got some steve. yeah, debrett's got some info and info for you. engagement and pregnancy on pregnancy announcements on christmas are in christmas day are in considerate. good i totally agree. normally you give me an etiquette story and i think there's a lot of faff. who cares which knife you use when eating all that kind of stuff. but the idea of having to tell a certain slice of society it's not all about you. don't and there's been an increase in the number of engagement rings bought. and the it's not just the article says it's not just because want because people want to get engaged , that apparently

engaged, that apparently that ring for, uh, for social ring shot for, uh, for social media looks better with all the tinsel and rubbish around it. oh, what a horrible reason to get engaged. oh, let's do it around christmas, because that way we've got some baubles in the insta, and the background of our insta, and it's , but it's good. it's it's grim, but it's good. it's good to see debrett's back in the news, you know, because we don't. because that's the etiquette guide. i people etiquette guide. i think people have about you have forgotten about that. you know, some rules, know, you just want some rules, some. nice that i didn't some. it's nice that i didn't know still around, know debrett's was still around, but they're sort know debrett's was still around, bu saying, they're sort know debrett's was still around, bu saying, know, ey're sort know debrett's was still around, bu saying, know, why sort know debrett's was still around, bu saying, know, why don't of saying, you know, why don't they updated they do a new updated version where about all the where they talk about all the things that annoy modern life, people playing music on the tube why copy of why don't we give a copy of debrett's people who debrett's to those people who play debrett's to those people who play the tube? yeah, play music on the tube? yeah, that'll work, that'll get you out. it'll work, trust get you beaten up trust me. get you beaten up on the top of bus. the top deck of a bus. no, i think will definitely work. think it will definitely work. this realise this young'un don't you realise that this is against decorum, young that this is against decorum, youn thought about out >> i thought about giving out pairs of earphones on public. i haven't obviously i'm haven't done it. obviously i'm a coward, i would to do that. >> well, it's just too dangerous. just risky. >> well, it's just too dmean,us. just risky. >> well, it's just too dmean, when just risky. >> well, it's just too dmean, when itust risky. >> well, it's just too dmean, when it comes, risky. >> well, it's just too dmean, when it comes, this. >> well, it's just too dmean, when it comes, this is i mean, when it comes, this is very much a story about stealing thunder, know, thunder, isn't it? you know, just don't christmas.

just don't ruin christmas. >> don't it's just >> i don't think it's just about that. i think, well, that. no i think, well, look, obviously not talking about obviously i'm not talking about me, some get a bit. me, but some people get a bit. you and you know, sentimental and melancholy you know, sentimental and mela|they? do. you're don't they? they do. you're going at any time. going to feel alone at any time. it's a great time to pick and maybe ella nunn, the journalist, thinks you're it thinks that you're rubbing it in people's thinks that you're rubbing it in peoyous rubbing it in >> you are rubbing it in people's faces. a lot people people's faces. a lot of people are at christmas. people's faces. a lot of people are i'll at christmas. people's faces. a lot of people are i'll andat christmas. people's faces. a lot of people are i'll andat chri other. >> i'll try and enjoy other people's good news. >> pregnancy, i suppose, >> oh, the pregnancy, i suppose, is is. that's is on topic. yeah it is. that's true. that's true. the nativity involves a bit of getting pregnant. yes it does. pregnant. yes, yes it does. although that was immaculate conception. we can't all be conception. so we can't all be perfect. no. okay. right let's move on to this next story. now this the times . uh chris this is the times. uh chris skudder. this is about gamers. >> the video game that could mend broken this is mend your broken heart. this is bizarre. i've never i bizarre. i've never heard of. i didn't know was a thing, as didn't know this was a thing, as they apparently there's they say. um, apparently there's loads of different dating simulator items on the market. what right. i know occasionally . what right. i know occasionally. well, it does. it does sound rude . we occasionally do stories rude. we occasionally do stories about very advanced robots. yes, but is post very advanced. but this is post very advanced. this is when you split up with somebody. it's some kind of

video game that you play well to get over your break—up. >> and it's called thirsty >> yes. and it's called thirsty suitors. i mean, sounds suitors. i mean, that sounds like a dodgy film, doesn't it? yes it does. >> that sounds like it's not for children. um, so, so you're locked in this furious row. the characters of the jilted lover . characters of the jilted lover. uh.and characters of the jilted lover. uh. and then somebody struggles to penetrate his massive ego, so summons her mother, who ? what? summons her mother, who? what? why is the mother getting involved? who subsequently flattens a giant flattens him with a giant slipper? , don't know slipper? i mean, so i don't know whether kind whether you're supposed to kind of that's supposed to of feel that that's supposed to be you. i'm not sure. >> well, people are seeking closure at the end of a relationship, so maybe a break—up good break—up simulator is a good thing. i don't know, i'm trying break—up simulator is a good lniil]. i don't know, i'm trying break—up simulator is a good thi|i like ion't know, i'm trying break—up simulator is a good thi|i like the know, i'm trying break—up simulator is a good thi|i like the fact w, i'm trying break—up simulator is a good thi|i like the fact thatn trying break—up simulator is a good thi|i like the fact that it'sying to. i like the fact that it's been for being an been given points for being an accurate of accurate depiction of relationships. slipper relationships. a giant slipper you wielded by a summoned mother . i did things very differently back in the day to things like punch judy. back in the day to things like purisn't judy. back in the day to things like purisn't it?|udy. back in the day to things like purisn't it? how they sort of thing? >> it's. yeah what is best >> it's. yeah what is the best way to over a relationship way to get over a relationship then? it . oh, then? steve, get over it. oh, look you're stoic . look at you. you're stoic. exactly. yeah. tough love. yeah i do think i don't. i don't

think there's anything that particularly healthy in getting think there's anything that parti emotions althy in getting think there's anything that parti emotions emotional. ting think there's anything that parti emotions emotional. loose your emotions emotional. loose ends tied up in computer game. ends tied up in a computer game. no.then ends tied up in a computer game. no. then need to go back no. then you'll need to go back to having some to it. you'll end up having some emotional for these emotional feelings for these characters. if you characters. no. you just. if you get dumped, you've got to get over getting otherwise over getting dumped. otherwise guys, the rest of your life is just pining over, i think. just don't fall in love to begin just pining over, i think. just don't iall in love to begin just pining over, i think. just don't i thinklove to begin just pining over, i think. just don't i thinklove is begin just pining over, i think. just don't i thinklove is evil.1 with. i think love is evil. okay, move on to the okay, let's move on to the metro. christmas. uh, and metro. merry christmas. uh, and this a story about demonic this is a story about demonic forces the uk forces at play in the uk government. it is actually, they stopped investigations stopped official investigations of ufos, which have been now called uaps , because we have to called uaps, because we have to mess with things. um, because that doesn't help anyone at all. so these ufos, they they could have looked into. but there have been looked into. but there was the time that was a belief at the time that the skies were basically the devil's domain, which is a, you know, to news me. thought it know, to news me. i thought it was right. and was lower. all right. and therefore were demons. so therefore they were demons. so you want to into them you don't want to look into them too are you making too much. steve, are you making this up? no, this sounds this up? no, this this sounds ridiculous. new ridiculous. well, there's a new documentary you'll very documentary which you'll very much ufos much enjoy. it's called ufos versus god, right? i can't wait to see who wins that one. some

some thing that there's no evidence that it exists, but some believe it. some people believe in it. actually, okay, it'll actually, no. okay, maybe it'll be that sounds like be a draw. that sounds like a computer it's an computer game, but it's an actual documentary because. okay, investigation. and okay, stop investigation. and i actually think if your mind is so weak that someone's saying to you, that, might be you, don't do that, it might be a demon, you weren't the scientist investigate scientist to investigate this in the any thoughts scientist to investigate this in the demons any thoughts scientist to investigate this in the demons and any thoughts scientist to investigate this in the demons and ufos? thoughts on demons and ufos? >> it made me think of doctor phil. religious, isn't he? phil. he's religious, isn't he? he's and he says you he's a christian and he says you do reward behaviour and do not reward bad behaviour and they're saying that, they're sort of saying that, aren't don't mess aren't they? saying, don't mess with don't know it with it. you don't know what it is. but i think is. be cautious. but i think it's ridiculous. >> let's move on to the independent. this is a story about , last christmas, about a well, last christmas, which is a very popular christmas song, finally gets to number one. >> finally, it's mission accomplished. wham! secure christmas number one with last christmas number one with last christmas as samurai to lands number two. apparently it's taken 39 years for this, so we never to number one. number never got to number one. number one, was beaten . um, it was by. >> do they know it's christmas? yes, it was. >> yeah. which find >> yeah. which i find astonishing i personally astonishing because i personally much prefer the wham song. >> wham is one of the

>> the wham song is one of the better christmas songs. i'm glad it beat mariah carey, who's always hovering the always hovering around the number time of number one spot this time of year song. it's year. it's a great song. it's not a great song. oh, i find the sexualisation of the santa claus figure to be deeply inappropriate. do you inappropriate. it's what do you find? have you watched the video? no, i listened to the song. she's rolling around in a sexy santa outfit. >> being very >> she's. she's being very direct she would direct about what she would like for christmas. yeah >> you? >> you? >> yes. yeah >> yes. yeah >> no. she's wearing. no, no, she's rolling around with santa in snow. i mean, it's just in the snow. i mean, it's just grim. it's just. grim. i think it's just. >> been any all these >> there been any all these christmas they're old christmas songs? they're all old ones. time for ones. i think it's time for lewis schaffer to. >> release christmas song >> to release a christmas song and crooning. >> to release a christmas song anc he'dning. that. >> to release a christmas song anche'dning.that. didn't >> he'd love that. i didn't realise it's actually nice because i'd forgotten that in 2016, george michael passed away on yes, yes. and that was >> yes, yes. and that was technically his last christmas. and said and andrew ridgeley has said that he would have been absolutely to be absolutely delighted to be number finally, with the number one. finally, with the song it's nice it's a nice song so it's a nice it's a nice story quickly , uh, has story very quickly, uh, has chris rea been cancelled for polluting the planet ? um, polluting the planet? um, everyone that chris rea everyone loves that chris rea song going your song about going to visit your family christmas road to family at christmas road to hell, home for

hell, but also driving home for christmas. some joyless bunch of researchers have worked out how much carbon he have saved much carbon he could have saved by driving 80% of his carbon by not driving 80% of his carbon footprint. i think this is deliberately done to wind up the daily . i it must be daily mail. i think it must be right. it and they've worked out all different cars he could right. it and they've worked out all used,arent cars he could right. it and they've worked out all used, and: cars he could right. it and they've worked out all used, and itars he could right. it and they've worked out all used, and it would could right. it and they've worked out all used, and it would have have used, and it would have beenit have used, and it would have been it would have been less carbon go on the train. but carbon to go on the train. but also you have only not also you would have not only not written because written the song because you wrote car. he wrote it in the car. yes. he also wouldn't have got for home christmas strikes, you christmas due to strikes, you know. it's probably know. yes it's probably something to do with are you going problematise song going to problematise a song about for, uh. about driving go for, uh. i drove night, the roy orbison about driving go for, uh. i drovwhereiight, the roy orbison about driving go for, uh. i drovwhereiiginot�*ie roy orbison about driving go for, uh. i drovwhereiiginot�*ie rodrivesson about driving go for, uh. i drovwhereiiginot�*ie rodrives all one where he not only drives all night see you, he creeps in night to see you, he creeps in your yes. then cyndi your room. yes. and then cyndi lauper compounded by the problem. it. outrageous. >> absolutely right. >> absolutely right. >> on this? >> absolutely right. >> cressida on this? >> absolutely right. >> cressida is on this? >> absolutely right. >> cressida is very on this? >> absolutely right. >> cressida is very miserable,’ >> cressida is very miserable, isn't know isn't it? they've probably know somebody just announced somebody that's just announced a pregnancy or a marriage. don't pregnancy or a marriage. i don't know, very, very negative. pregnancy or a marriage. i don't know, well, y, very negative. pregnancy or a marriage. i don't know, well, the ary negative. pregnancy or a marriage. i don't know, well, the show gative. pregnancy or a marriage. i don't know, well, the show istive. >> okay, well, the show is nearly so have nearly over, so let's have another quick saturday's another quick look at saturday's front daily mail front pages. so the daily mail is the story is leading with the story of justin knighthood. justin welby's knighthood. the telegraph dyson uk must telegraph has a dyson uk must focus on growth, not inflation.

the times is running with criminals snared by new face recognition cameras , and the recognition cameras, and the guardian has a story about labour curtailing their green plan to avert tory attacks. the i has uk's worst rail firms cancel 200 trains a day , and the cancel 200 trains a day, and the daily star has all of the travel commotion. are we nearly there yet? that's all we've got time for. but thanks so much to my guests steve and alan and cressida wetton. we're back tomorrow at 11:00 with, uh, some other people. if you're other people. and if you're watching at 5 am, please do not go anywhere, because now it's time for breakfast. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> evening i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news most places having another mild cloudy and very windy day tomorrow, particularly wet though across parts of scotland where there are warnings in place, a snow warning across shetland another shetland already, but another snow and ice warning coming into

play snow and ice warning coming into play the play this evening over the northeast scotland . some northeast of scotland. some heavy snow making for some heavy snow here making for some tncky heavy snow here making for some tricky driving conditions, particularly for tomorrow morning. heavy rain then sets in across western scotland . across western scotland. elsewhere, it's just a generally cloudy night and a breezy night and mild night as well, and a very mild night as well, but a wet start across scotland tomorrow. rain west tomorrow. heavy rain in the west and heavy snow for a time and some heavy snow for a time across north—east. even down across the north—east. even down to for a time . so to lower levels for a time. so say that could cause some issues. the rain lasts all day in that could also in the west. that could also cause patchy cause some disruption. patchy rain southern and central rain for southern and central scotland later northern scotland, later for northern ireland northern england, ireland and northern england, but a good part england and but a good part of england and wales and cloudy. some wales just dry and cloudy. some brightness the east could see brightness in the east could see temperatures it temperatures into the teens. it is mild and 11 or 12 celsius even it's grey. quite even where it's grey. quite blustery. eve , blustery. on christmas eve, gusty over northeast gusty winds over northeast england and northern england and later northern scotland we have met office scotland mean we have met office yellow warnings place and yellow warnings in place and a warning the rain across warning for the rain across parts that'll probably parts of wales that'll probably sink through day. some sink south through the day. some brighter spells , but for many, brighter spells, but for many, christmas doesn't christmas eve weather doesn't look though look brilliant again, though it will be mild with temperatures getting into the teens across

parts of the east of england, where see sunny spells. where we see any sunny spells. christmas then looking fairly mild damp. there will be mild but damp. there will be some colder weather across scotland where a bit snow is scotland where a bit of snow is possible the big day across possible on the big day across the . north. the. north. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

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award winning golden diamond club, a fantastic venue . tonight club, a fantastic venue. tonight we're going to be speaking to santa claus and his chief elf , santa claus and his chief elf, samantha, a local ashfield hero, with telling us upsetting story with telling us upsetting story with a happy ending about his childhood and going to adoption and the success he made of a of his life. plus we'll go back in the day with legendary former nottingham forest footballer nigel jemson. talk about that famous he scored in a cup famous goal he scored in a cup final. we'll also speaking to final. we'll also be speaking to many heroes on the show many other heroes on the show tonight, but first go to tonight, but first let's go to the . news the. news >> good evening, i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom . the in the gb newsroom. the headunes in the gb newsroom. the headlines at seven millions of train passengers are facing a hike in fares of nearly 5. that's as the department for transport confirmed that regulated rail fares in england will rise from the 3rd of march. it includes season tickets, some off peak returns and flexible

tickets in major cities. the increase is based on inflation, but it's being capped at 4.9. passengers say it's just more financial pressure. >> already. the trains are striking and that we pay enough and we don't get the service that they should be delivering. i mean, it makes sense because everything's going up, but, you know, it's not good news. >> i think they've got to get their act together first before they start thinking about putting again. i'm they start thinking about puttlooking again. i'm they start thinking about puttlooking forward again. i'm they start thinking about puttlooking forward tongain. i'm they start thinking about puttlooking forward to itain. i'm not looking forward to it because we do use public transport quite lot trains transport quite a lot and trains so so going to be a bit so, so it's going to be a bit rough account. rough on the bank account. >> you know , i guess we'll >> but you know, i guess we'll just to with it. it's just have to live with it. it's how nowadays. well how things going nowadays. well that news comes as rail passengers are facing yet more travel disruption as they try to get away for christmas . get away for christmas. >> trains running out of >> trains are running out of london, have been london, but there have been cancellations, paddington cancellations, with paddington station for four station closing for four days from christmas eve on sunday. heathrow also set to be heathrow is also set to be exceptionally busy. the airport is expecting more than a quarter of million over the of a million passengers over the coming , and motorists are coming days, and motorists are being affected by the delays