time of the incident . the the time of the incident. the chief inspector of prisons in england and wales is warning that there's a danger people are leaving jail far worse than when they went in. speaking to the independent, charlie taylor said that former prisoners could go on to cause , quote, mayhem in on to cause, quote, mayhem in communities and create more victims of crime . he also said victims of crime. he also said that keeping prisoners locked up doesn't feel like a great use of taxpayers money, and whichever party wins the next election must decide what the purpose of locking criminals up. actually is. the king used his christmas address today to focus on and give thanks to the nation's volunteers , describing them as volunteers, describing them as a selfless army. his majesty said they are the essential backbone of our society . he thanked the of our society. he thanked the hundreds of volunteers who attended his coronation in westminster abbey earlier on this year, and said that their presence was a call to all of us to love and care for all on this christmas day .

christmas day. >> my heart and my thanks go to all who are serving one another, all who are serving one another, all who are caring for our common home and all who see and seek the good of others. not least the friend. we do not yet know . in this way we bring out know. in this way we bring out the best in ourselves . the best in ourselves. >> this is gb news news across the uk. merry christmas to one and all. let's end the evening on a high with our headliners . on a high with our headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at the boxing day papers. i'm andrew doyle and joining me tonight are the ebenezer scrooge of gb news, lewis schaffer and his downtrodden bob cratchit , his downtrodden bob cratchit, paul cox how are you both.7 >> good evening. at least you didn't call me fagin.

>> no , i wasn't going to go that far. >> yeah, but it was a nice dickensian reference. i thought it was. >> it was. and do you know, do you know that, uh, that charles dickens had his girlfriend in nunhead, where am oh, nunhead, where i am from.7 oh, really? there's connection. >> are both.7 are you. >> how are you both.7 are you. have had a christmas have you had a good christmas while we're here? >> had lovely >> i've had a lovely day, actually. been fun, actually. it's been a fun, packed day. i went over to, uh, family for a lovely and, family for a lovely lunch and, uh, rather nice. uh, that was all rather nice. yeah. very good, very traditional. >> yeah, i got paul a present for. oh, my goodness, i you >> yeah, i got paul a present for. (present.oodness, i you >> yeah, i got paul a present for. (present. yesterday, you you your present. yesterday, you gave present yesterday. your present. yesterday, you gaerah. present yesterday. your present. yesterday, you gaerah. oh,present yesterday. your present. yesterday, you gaerah. oh, let'snt yesterday. your present. yesterday, you gaerah. oh, let's have ;terday. your present. yesterday, you gaerah. oh, let's have ;te look. >> yeah. oh, let's have a look. >> yeah. oh, let's have a look. >> what i, think can >> what am i, i think i can guess what it while i'm guess what it is while i'm opening this. >> i just to say i put out >> i just want to say i put out a tweet earlier saying to a little tweet earlier saying to those home alone, those that are at home alone, this let know. this christmas, let me know. i can't but to all can't name you all. but to all of you that are watching home alone, merry, christmas. alone, merry, merry christmas. thanks support. we thanks for all your support. we love you all. >> earth is that? >> what on earth is that? >> what on earth is that? >> oh my goodness. >> oh my goodness. >> a picture of lewis schaffer >> oh my goodness. >> a jinture of lewis schaffer >> oh my goodness. >> a [in the of lewis schaffer >> oh my goodness. >> a [in the younger schaffer >> oh my goodness. >> a [in the younger days. fer in the in the younger days. >> at he looks like me in the in the younger days. >> years at he looks like me in the in the younger days. >> years ago. he looks like me 30 years ago. >> read what it says . it's >> read what it says. it's a very sweet message. >> merry christmas paul. >> merry christmas paul. >> by my calendar lewis

>> and by my calendar lewis schaffer advertising 2020. >> well enough of this pathology. >> let's crack on with the boxing day front covers . boxing day front covers. >> okay, so the daily mail is leading with king's christmas plea for peace. >> that's about the king's speech today. >> the times has got labour plots, rwanda asylum plots, alternative rwanda asylum plan and the front cover of the telegraph has nhs under fire menopause, drug lottery and king preachers universal values of faith amid israel conflict. then the front of the guardian on boxing day is leading with anti—obesity u—turns risk child health time bomb. the mirror is running with king of peace. another story about charles. and finally the star invasion of the car, scoffing rats! believe me, we'll be getting to that in just one moment. those were your front pages . okay we're going to front pages. okay we're going to kick off with the front page of the daily mail. paul, you've got this. >> i do, king christmas plea for peace. >> andrew charles calls for

harmony in face of tragic conflict, urges all to protect the earth and praises those devoted to service. >> um , i'm not sure he was as >> um, i'm not sure he was as specific as that about conflict and maybe about earth. i did watch the speech. did you watch the speech? i didn't watch, i did watch the speech. and, um, it was a good speech in terms of its presentation. yes. he was very good at avoiding any potential . nothing in potential mishaps. nothing in the background other than a christmas etc. christmas tree, etc. >> the problem, >> yeah, but the problem, i suppose, of people suppose, is that a lot of people say the king should not be say that the king should not be political. i agree any political. i agree in any circumstances, and he's referencing circumstances, and he's referenci| like circumstances, and he's referenci|like israel and conflicts like the israel and hamas he's talking about hamas war. he's talking about the ukraine. the russian invasion of ukraine. however, was he didn't get however, he was he didn't get weighed in in terms of opinions, particularly . but what he did is particularly. but what he did is that he tried to have a christian resonate christian message resonate generally about peace. and that is surely something we can all get behind, irrespective where we do you we stand on this. what do you think? said something think? well, he said something very said, think? well, he said something verydo said, think? well, he said something verydo unto said, think? well, he said something very do unto others said, think? well, he said something verydo unto others you said, think? well, he said something verydo unto others you would uh, do unto others as you would have you. he said, have them do unto you. he said, that's message. yes. right. that's the message. yes. right. but you shouldn't treat other

people as would them people as you would have them treat because you might be treat you because you might be into s&m. you might be into you're you're speaking you're speaking. you're speaking from you're from experience. so you're saying . you're saying, you know saying. you're saying, you know what, paul? i'm going to treat you the way i want to be treated. let's say i'm a horrible person and i want to be abused. into abused. yeah, well, i'm not into s&m. mass love. yeah s&m. i'm into mass love. yeah beautiful food about it. yeah i mean, interesting mean, but it's an interesting one, because one, isn't it? because invariable with all all these invariable with all all of these kind they're often kind of speeches, they're often very and you very platitudinous. and when you talk global talk about things like global conflict, complex. and if things are complex. and if it was simple just applying was as simple as just applying christian doing to christian values and doing to others as they would do unto you, all wars be you, uh, all the wars would be over of course, over tomorrow. but of course, it's lot complicated. >> well, absolutely. complicated. >> w�*wasabsolutely. complicated. >> w�*was to olutely. complicated. >> w�*was to good.y. complicated. >> w�*was to good see the >> it was to good see the contrast between him and his mother, great late queen. yeah. um, this was the first >> yeah. um, this was the first real speech because last, last year arguably say was year we can arguably say it was quite emotional for him. >> you know, bless >> and, you know, god bless because a tough act to because it's a tough act to follow. absolutely. follow. that's absolutely. yeah. okay. now. okay. well let's move on now. what front of what are the front cover of boxing leading times . boxing days times leading times. this is rwanda plots alternative to asylum . labour. labour to rwanda asylum. labour. labour labour labour. what did i just say. well you just didn't read

the headline correctly, which actually isn't unusual for me because isn't unusual. because no, it isn't unusual. it isn't word plot isn't unusual. but the word plot isn't unusual. but the word plot is of those things. it's is one of those things. it's politics. plan. they're not politics. they plan. they're not plotting, not the plotting, they're not behind the scenes going, ooh, they're coming plan . so you're coming up with a plan. so you're saying that this is times is saying that this is the times is sort to be sort of spinning it to be against in plying that against labour in plying that they're kind of machiavellian. yeah just yeah when, when they're just preparing for what do they say prepare for what is their plan for basically the for their plan is basically the same the british plan, same as, as the british plan, the same as the tories as the tories, okay. as the tories. but instead they're not going to say the tories. wanda they're going to place to to find another place to possibly to or no , no, possibly send them to or no, no, no no. [10 ho. >> no no. >> wrong. i'm shaking my head at the idea that labour. yeah >> so what is it? they're going to else to send them somewhere else instead send the instead of where they send the isle to two things isle of man to say two things are to happen is that are going to happen is that they're is that they're they're going to is that they're going how people in going to allow how people in other countries right, to ask going to allow how people in oth asylum :ries right, to ask going to allow how people in oth asylum beforeiht, to ask going to allow how people in oth asylum before they) ask going to allow how people in oth asylum before they) asihere. for asylum before they get here. okay. rejected. okay. and possibly be rejected. okay. and possibly be rejected. okay. thing , okay. well, here's the thing, paul okay. well, here's the thing, paul. have been paul. i mean, labour have been saying have all the saying that they have all the answers to this problem, not just issue, but also just the rwanda issue, but also the the small boats

the issue of the small boats crisis. and do they say crisis. and they do say they say we it. like starmer we will solve it. like starmer has saying, if you has been saying, if you implemented our plans, then this problem that problem would just go away. that strikes me as wishful thinking. well, absolutely. >> and never >> of course. and we've never really their plans really heard what their plans are going to be. >> the great thing >> no, that's the great thing about being in opposition. you can you like. you can be as vague as you like. you just so you're like, i just say, so you're like, and i started reading this story ever so excited because at so excited because i thought at some when some point next week or when they return, they were going to actually tell us what their policy >> amazing. >> amazing. >> that something? >> amazing. >> but that something? >> amazing. >> but there's something? >> amazing. >> but there's sorhere. 1g? >> but there's not in here. they're they're do they're they're going to do something similar to the tories. but you'll to wait and see but you'll have to wait and see only power and only if they're in power and you're well, that's no good. >> isn't that interesting >> and isn't that interesting that and right that both the left and the right now country are sort of now in this country are sort of unhed now in this country are sort of united when it comes having united when it comes to having to with the issue of to deal with the issue of migration, know to deal with the issue of migrthisi, know to deal with the issue of migrthis is know to deal with the issue of migrthis is something know to deal with the issue of migrthis is something that ow to deal with the issue of migrthis is something that av that this is something that a lot of people are concerned about. yeah, for sure. >> massive i think >> it's a massive vote. i think it's to become the central it's going to become the central vote winning topic. it's going to become the central voti lewis, ng topic. it's going to become the central voti lewis, whatpic. it's going to become the central voti lewis, what would you if >> lewis, what would you do if you plan? how would you you had to plan? how would you deal with this issue of migration? unfortunately, deal with this issue of ncan'tion? unfortunately, deal with this issue of ncan't say unfortunately, deal with this issue of ncan't say what unfortunately, deal with this issue of ncan't say what ijnfortunately, deal with this issue of ncan't say what i would nately, deal with this issue of ncan't say what i would do sly, i can't say what i would do because i have to come across as being and a caring being a nice guy and a caring guy who's why guy who's not who's why you

haven't so far. people haven't done so far. people actually like me. andrew unlike they like me. are always they like me. why are you always picking on me? i'm not. i'm really not. look, it's christmas. would on christmas. why would i pick on you christmas? lewis i'm you and christmas? lewis i'm full you and all of full of love for you and all of your kind. thank you. andrew, what would do? what would i do? >> these kind. >> these kind. >> i mean, up comedians. >> i mean, stand up comedians. in case you got something there. >> okay. >> yeah. okay. >> yeah. okay. >> now, >> yeah. okay. >> we'll move on now, uh, to the telegraph. what you got? >> uh, nhs under fire for menopause, drug lottery. so, hrt lottery middle class menopause, drug lottery. so, hrt lottery are middle class menopause, drug lottery. so, hrt lottery are timesile class menopause, drug lottery. so, hrt lottery are times moreass women are three times more likely to be offered treatment. so this analysis from nhs so this is analysis from the nhs and clear link and it shows their clear link between the access between affluence and the access with the poorest areas. between affluence and the access witiande poorest areas. between affluence and the access witiand surelyst areas. between affluence and the access witiand surely working class >> and surely working class women hrt as well as they women need hrt as well as they all they're all the same. i mean, women need hrt as well as they aknow�*y're all the same. i mean, women need hrt as well as they aknow we're ll the same. i mean, women need hrt as well as they aknow we're note same. i mean, women need hrt as well as they aknow we're not allowed i mean, women need hrt as well as they aknow we're not allowed t01ean, women need hrt as well as they aknow we're not allowed to say|, i know we're not allowed to say that. could you imagine all women, comes their women, when it comes to their biology, are largely same? biology, are largely the same? >> true, but >> well, no, that's true, but but have existed for but women have existed for a long you know, long time without hrt, you know, so it's not. yes. >> and i think well, you know, it's just it's not a cure, is it. it's it's like taking it. it's just it's like taking a paracetamol to ease pain. paracetamol to ease the pain. i think we are the most. i'm out of my debt. >> i have no idea about hormone replacement for women. >> i don't like this

>> i really don't like this panelis >> i really don't like this panel is the least amount of expertise i know. >> how do you know? because i know what it's saying. it's saying there's something the matter with they need. matter with women they need. they're going to they're automatically going to need medicated because need to be medicated because there's matter. need to be medicated because therestick matter. need to be medicated because therestick i matter. need to be medicated because therestick i think matter. need to be medicated because therestick i think you atter. pritt stick i think you yourself, there's yourself, sometimes there's something women. yourself, sometimes there's somi'm ng women. yourself, sometimes there's somi'm saying women. yourself, sometimes there's somi'm saying that's women. yourself, sometimes there's somi'm saying that's what women. no, i'm saying that's what they're saying. they're saying that something the that there's something the matter women. and women matter with women. and women need replacement just need hormone replacement just for women. think for being normal women. i think it's important thing. and but it's an important thing. and but the it shouldn't it be the thing is, it shouldn't it be the thing is, it shouldn't it be the that should be the case that there should be class parity, like everyone should have availability for these necessary treatments, right. have right. well you have to have some cutting down of the some way of cutting down of the of the expenditures. basically they spend too much money on pills. anyway, this is another one of those articles basically the mainstream press has been taken over by pharmaceuticals and they're basically they're having a go at the nhs, they're doing the pharmacy business. i doing the pharmacy business. i do wish that people would stop knocking the nhs. am i right about the one. about that? it's the one. >> well, i mean, no, no >> well, i mean, i no, i no idea what said lewis, but what you said lewis, but but let's say yes don't you don't but let's assume he was saying

something very wise. >> i it's one our >> but i think it's one of our greatest institutions . greatest institutions. >> the reasons we >> and one of the reasons we knock is because we rely on knock it is because we rely on it so heavily. and i dread to think what would like if think what it would be like if it taken away. yeah, it was taken away. yeah, well, this pushing this thing is pushing pills, pushing pills. >> pushing pills. and >> it's pushing pills. and that's media that's what the mainstream media does. well, i have to say, i apologise to any of our female viewers who are absolutely screaming tv right now, screaming at the tv right now, but move on to this. uh, but let's move on to this. uh, what, uh, pulitzer prize winning journalism is in the star on boxing day. well this is according the rac , which according to the rac, which stands iraq , uh, stands stands for the iraq, uh, stands for. you don't know, do you ? for. you don't know, do you? >> no. >> no. >> royal. royal automobile club. yeah. the they're the people who come and pick you up when you've crashed at the side of a broken down. it's not the aa, it's the alternative. it's the alternative. it's the alternative. the alternative. the aa record of our the aa and record number of our motors. motors are being wrecked, i guess. cars and stuff. yes. motors is being like a different language . being a different language. being wrecked virgin. how can wrecked by pesky virgin. how can this the case? virgin the this be the case? virgin the virgins are going around destroying is what destroying cars. is that what

you're you know what? you're saying? you know what? you speak tonight. you can't speak tonight. have you drinking? have, it's you been drinking? i have, it's funny that you mentioned drink. it's funny that you mentioned drinking. you know, that's called. that's called gaslighting. gaslighting. okay. absolutely well, i'm just interested. are the rats? interested. why are the rats? where are the rats coming from? i think you're i don't i don't think you're having today. you've having a good day today. you've already that people out already heard that people out there they love there watching me, they love lewis schaffer on twitter. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm facebook i'm everywhere. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and ebook i'm everywhere. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and can)k i'm everywhere. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and can youi'm everywhere. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and can you just everywhere. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and can you just tell'where. lewis schaffer i'm on twitter. i'm and can you just tell us ere. yeah. and can you just tell us the story though? no story. well, where are the rats coming from coming from to destroy the cars coming from to destroy the cars coming from guess that's. from to destroy the cars coming from all guess that's. from to destroy the cars coming from all this guess that's. from to destroy the cars coming from all this storyiuess that's. from to destroy the cars coming from all this story is ss that's. is that all this story is basically this. >> this story is rats are starting to eat cars, and that's causing problem. to causing a problem. according to the rac , the daily star. the rac, the daily star. >> ladies gentlemen . okay, >> ladies and gentlemen. okay, that's part one, but do that's all for part one, but do join a few minutes for join us in a few minutes for more adventures when more festive adventures when we'll discussing an outspoken we'll be discussing an outspoken p0pe we'll be discussing an outspoken pope a white christmas in pope and a white christmas in more ways than one. see you shortly

radio. welcome back to headline . radio. welcome back to headline. >> here's your first look at boxing day's newspapers. my name is still andrew doyle. there's are still paul cox and louis schaefer. okay, let's go to the daily mail now. another figurehead who's been rather outspoken global issues. outspoken about global issues. this it's that argentinian this time it's that argentinian fella, not javier milei . it's fella, not javier milei. it's the other one. yes, pope francis and, uh. and he blasts the weapon. he gives a speech to like prince charles. he blasts the weapons industry as instruments of death. death and he gave a speech as his christmas blessing. his christmas blessing. his christmas to christians . and he christmas to christians. and he said very interesting said some very interesting things , which he called for the things, which he called for the release hostages , which was release of hostages, which was very he he said very nice, but he said he said israel's military campaign in gaza, uh, and as an appalling

harvest of innocent civilians , harvest of innocent civilians, we should say, for balance, he did also point out that the attack by hamas on october the 7th was abominable. right so he was being condemnatory of that . was being condemnatory of that. but really be but it shouldn't really be surprising us that leader surprising to us that the leader of faith calls for of the catholic faith calls for peace. peace is an essential aspect of christian belief. i would say that not only would hate to say that not only is he calling for peace , but i is he calling for peace, but i think this is anti—semitic. this is an anti—semitic. how? by an a an harvest of innocent an appalling harvest of innocent civilians like jews are killing people. no, i don't think that's what it is appalling what he means. it is appalling that civilians are dying. he's not that the idf or not saying that the idf or israel is behaving appallingly . israel is behaving appallingly. he's it is appalling. he's saying it is appalling. it's always a tragedy when civilians it's civilians are in fact, it's a tragedy anyone harvest tragedy when anyone harvest halves . ist tragedy when anyone harvest halves. ist i'm tragedy when anyone harvest halves . ist i'm not saying halves. ist i'm not saying anything pope , but anything bad about the pope, but i it possible that the i mean, is it possible that the translation . translation. >> well, i think i didn't read any of that. i read this whole story. i didn't read any of that into but not jewish. one into it. but i'm not jewish. one thing i did read into it is his blasting of the weapons industry for creating instruments of

death a go at the death and having a go at the weapons industry for creating weapons industry for creating weapons a bit like having weapons is a bit like having a go at the pope for celebrating christmas. that's what they're there for. >> p— >> and actually, ultimately it is who pull triggers is people who pull the triggers and people of course bombs. yeah, absolutely . >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and i think if we've learned anything as a human race that just words and religion alone is not never been enough as much as we'd all love it to be, it's never been enough as deterrent. >> it's difficult, isn't it? i mean, often people say they don't want the pope or religious figures involved figures getting involved in geopolitics, this figures getting involved in ge0|matter this figures getting involved in ge0|matter of this figures getting involved in ge0|matter of war. this figures getting involved in ge0|matter of war. this this figures getting involved in ge0|matter of war. this is this is a matter of war. this is something that the church should be commenting and, you know , be commenting on. and, you know, it's not solve the it's not going to solve the crisis, but at least, you know, i if come and i guess if he come out and said loving the loving the work of the weapons industry, then it would that would it would be weird. that would be it would be weird. that would be it would the mirror would be okay on to the mirror now, paul bing crosby would now, paul and bing crosby would be happy this one. be very happy with this one. >> yes, white christmas officially declared as met office confirmed snowfall in uk today. >> so this is the met office officially declaring a white christmas for 2023, because

there's some snowfall in the north of scotland that's still a white christmas . white christmas. >> how does that qualify as a white christmas, though? because it's little of snow it's just a little bit of snow anywhere the uk, inverness or anywhere in the uk, inverness or something. it's somewhere something. well it's somewhere according this. according to this. >> to think it used to be >> i used to think it used to be on centre . yeah, on bbc television centre. yeah, i remember something about that. i remember something about that. i don't know if that's an old wives tale something my wives tale or something that my mum she's an old wife, mum told me. she's an old wife, so maybe it was, but she's not watching. she be watching so maybe it was, but she's not watchingsorry. be watching so maybe it was, but she's not watchingsorry. i'm be watching so maybe it was, but she's not watchingsorry. i'm sorry atching so maybe it was, but she's not watchingsorry. i'm sorry ma'am, and i'm sorry. i'm sorry ma'am, but quite but they also cram in quite a bit about how today's lowest average never went average temperature never went below about 12.4 degrees, whereas previously its lowest was 11.4, which was in 1983. so so there's some conflicting information in here, but it is a white christmas. >> technically, yes. >> technically, yes. >> it is very much a white christmas because i do sort of miss, you know, the days of my childhood you up childhood when you wake up and there during there was snow during the christmas period, not necessarily christmas day, necessarily on christmas day, but don't. but but you don't. >> we just don't get it anymore, do know, get days off do we? you know, we get days off school, to be school, you know, it used to be piled thick. it was piled two feet thick. it was fantastic. know what that's fantastic. you know what that's like? i was a kid,

like? when i was a kid, i remember one time it was. it snowed all the up to my snowed all the way up to my thighs. yeah. mean, only thighs. yeah. i mean, i was only 18 at time. yeah at 18 months at the time. yeah at the so that's basically the time. so that's basically nothing. all nothing. we all remember. we all remember the white remember about the white christmases i've lived this christmases i've lived in this country already. so country 23 years already. so what lewis is it what is that? lewis is it climate is that why we climate change? is that why we don't get them anymore? no, we don't get them anymore? no, we don't anymore because don't get them anymore because we're. a temperate. we're. it's a temperate. it's a temperate. there's temperate. this there's something called the gulf stream. very warm. stream. yeah. we're very warm. we're it's we're relatively warm. it's a shame, isn't although shame, isn't it? although although good for the wine, although it's good for the wine, climate has been good for climate change has been good for engush climate change has been good for english some english wine. i think some people will. english wine. i think some peowhite ll. english wine. i think some peowhite christmases, >> white christmases, some people climate people will read this as climate change. this change. but i don't think this evidence change evidence is climate change really. over the really. it shows that over the last years we've had warm , last 40 years we've had warm, dry, wet and snowy, cold and warm winters. i miss all the snowball fights . yes, yes. snowball fights. yes, yes. >> impish . >> quite impish. >> quite impish. >> yeah. it was great, wasn't it? yeah. i enjoyed all that. >> you're to >> think you're lying to yourself? in what way? i was an imp. an imp. imp. i was very much an imp. >> sad though, wasn't it? i >> i sad though, wasn't it? i mean, my brother, young mean, my brother, my young brother icy lake. mean, my brother, my young browent icy lake. mean, my brother, my young bro went down, icy lake. mean, my brother, my young bro went down, fell icy lake. mean, my brother, my young bro went down, fell into lake. mean, my brother, my young bro went down, fell into the�*. he went down, fell into the lake, and he was deaf. and he couldn't do all the things he

wanted to do. then later on, wanted to do. and then later on, no, that was that that's why. no, that was is that that's why. that's is. that's. that's why christmas is. that's. >> life >> no, that's a wonderful life i've forgotten. >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> life with the films. >> i haven't got a brother. andrew. >> oh, god. i'm glad you're not confusing your life with other films elm films like nightmare on elm street something like that. films like nightmare on elm street let's)mething like that. films like nightmare on elm street let's move ng like that. films like nightmare on elm street let's move ng likianother okay, let's move on to another story. one from one story. now, this one from one from one white christmas to another. lewis. yes. well, white people drugs. and people doing white drugs. and this this is daily mail. this is this is the daily mail. this one. yeah. daily mail, it's a more like. it's more like a more like. it's a more like like go go drugs. uh, how cocaine became britain's value for money drug during the cost of living crisis. i didn't know this. i didn't know that. it's now a gram, which is now £60 a gram, which is basically been unchanged for the last years. there's an last 23 years. so there's an actual cheapening of actual tremendous cheapening of it. they're saying that the, the cocaine or what do they call it in this. what's the phrase for cocaine, charlie? charlie or snow or gak ? i believe it's snow or gak? i believe it's known as. yeah. um, that this is now, uh, two accessible. like everyone, everyone can get hold of and why is this of it. and why is this proliferating at such such proliferating at such a such a rate? well, why is it because

it's cheap? yeah, i see, i see i mean, maybe that's why it's cheap and it's, there's something about british people that like that like it. i don't know. well i think this, this . know. well i think this, this. sorry. well, i'm just saying, like this is not, you know, i'm surprised you i surprised at this. you know, i don't this sort of thing and don't do this sort of thing and i know people who do this. i don't know people who do this. sorry for interrupting. okay. that's all right. this is an advert drugs. it's not. advert for drugs. no it's not. they actually it is. it's saying how cheap it is. it's available everywhere . they actually give everywhere. they actually give a phone number of where to buy it. well, they phone number well, they give a phone number of the daily mail. of a dealer in the daily mail. 078855521 to speak to dave . it's 078855521 to speak to dave. it's available within five minutes. they'll come the daily mail code and you'll get a discount. they'll get a kickback . just to they'll get a kickback. just to emphasise is not true, by emphasise that is not true, by the way. that's just lewis being whimsical as ever. what do you make of this, though? isn't it very the war on very disturbing that the war on drugs, for endless drugs, it goes on for endless lee? you know, can't ever lee? and you know, i can't ever tell of the measures tell whether all of the measures that authorities taking tell whether all of the measures tha'making:horities taking tell whether all of the measures tha'making it)rities taking tell whether all of the measures tha'making it worse taking tell whether all of the measures tha'making it worse making it are making it worse or making it better. certainly hasn't better. it certainly hasn't worked better. it certainly hasn't woried think the war on >> i don't think the war on drugs ever been won. i don't

drugs has ever been won. i don't think it ever will be won. one of interesting factors of of the interesting factors of this particular is how of the interesting factors of this pimedia r is how of the interesting factors of this pimedia platformsiow social media platforms like snapchat are now snapchat and facebook are now playing their it's so playing their part. it's so readily can you readily available. you can you can instantly access via instagram and snapchat . instagram and snapchat. >> and i suppose cheap drugs , >> and i suppose cheap drugs, whatsapp, because it's encrypted as well . as well. >> yeah, makes it very >> yeah, this makes it very difficult the police to difficult for the police to monitor identify monitor and identify the drug dealers that type of thing. dealers and that type of thing. >> for me. i mean, >> it's tricky for me. i mean, um, entire culture um, this entire culture has passed i've never passed me by. i've never indulged anything this. indulged in anything like this. >> only recently indulged in anything like this. >> into only recently indulged in anything like this. >> into the only recently indulged in anything like this. >> into the media.y recently indulged in anything like this. >> into the media. yeah.ntly got into the media. yeah. >> it's only just started >> so? so it's only just started being so freely. being offered to me so freely. yeah but we haven't at yeah but but but we haven't at the buffet, don't we? >> did. >> yeah we did. >> yeah we did. >> it was out there with the sausage rolls, but you could use it maybe a weight loss mechanism. >> yeah i could schaffer. >> yeah i could do schaffer. that's an outrageous thing. no, but you but it is concerning, you know, when getting cheaper, when it's getting cheaper, when it's readily it's getting more readily available. war available. and like i say, war on clearly, clearly on drugs, clearly, not clearly not know . so what's not working. you know. so what's the solution? i mean, lots of people should people say we should decriminalise. do you know what? >> never to believe that >> i never used to believe that to true. that to be true. that seemed ridiculous and believe ridiculous to me. and i believe there a on drugs. but there was a war on drugs. but there's winner war

there's only one winner in a war on and that is the drug on drugs. and that is the drug dealers. anyone who's worked in in line work in that line of work will probably thing. in that line of work will pro well, thing. in that line of work will pro well, the thing. in that line of work will pro well, the logic, thing. in that line of work will pro well, the logic, of thing. in that line of work will pro well, the logic, of course, >> well, the logic, of course, is that if you decriminalise, then gangster then the gangsters, the gangster industry disappears overnight. they've making. they've got no means of making. >> tried it, but >> we've never tried it, but on the hand, nothing is the other hand, nothing else is working. peter hitchens working. but then peter hitchens would we've never would argue that we've never actually seriously prosecuted a war not war on drugs, that we're not arresting it. arresting people for it. >> effectively, it's decriminalised facto decriminalised in a de facto way, they way, even when they decriminalise drugs, the gangsters control of gangsters still have control of the drugs take a look the drugs industry. take a look at and astrazeneca . at pfizer and astrazeneca. >> oh, here go. >> oh, here we go. >> oh, here we go. >> there . they're all gangsters. >> there. they're all gangsters. yeah wondered how long we'd get for lewis to go on to that. but never let's move never mind. let's move on to this now. this is a this story now. uh, this is a story in the i on boxing day and even though it's winter, the tories are feeling the heat. paul tories are feeling the heat. paul, have you got this one? >> yeah, they certainly are. tories facing growing elections . tories facing growing elections. threat from farage's reform uk . threat from farage's reform uk. now this is not really news to us and probably to many of us and probably not to many of our viewers listeners. our viewers and listeners. however disaffected conservative voters are increasingly turning to nigel farage's reform uk.

according to top pollster john curtice . and he is a man that we curtice. and he is a man that we all look for a look towards. sorry, when it comes to these, when it comes to these particular course particular polls. and of course what happened was two what happened in 2019 was two things. tories won a huge things. the tories won a huge majority their majority on the basis of their stance on brexit, i feel and but they also won a huge majority because reform step back right . because reform step back right. >> which they're not going to do this time which they're definitely not going to do this time. therefore there was >> and therefore there was a massive danger of splitting the vote. to vote. it's not a danger to reform. reform will reform reform. reform will just reform could end up. >> actually, some of these stats are the fact are quite interesting. the fact that 1 5 here 1 are quite interesting. the fact that1 5 here 1 in are quite interesting. the fact that 1 5 here 1 in 5. that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee are now backing that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee we've now backing that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee we've seen backing that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee we've seen aicking that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee we've seen a lotng that 1 in 5 it says here 1 in 5. lee we've seen a lot of reform. we've seen a lot of polls that are suggesting that the conservative voter, a typical traditional typical sort of traditional hardline conservative no hardline conservative voters, no longer served support the conservative the tories conservative party. the tories are real trouble these are in real trouble when these smaller parties turn up. >> certainly, they >> almost certainly, and they will reform . will need their own reform. yeah. yeah, absolutely. >> are thoughts >> lewis, what are your thoughts on this? my thoughts is paul's right we've been seeing this , right as we've been seeing this, people people of people are half the people of the conservative party are fed up with the conservative party.

at least half. more half. at least half. more than half. they're . all the key they're upset. all the key pledges that rishi sunak has made, he hasn't. he hasn't followed through and he's more and more he's been on the he's on team world side. nobody, nobody team will be doing it again. lewis can i just you again. lewis can i just say you always whenever you're not familiar story or familiar with a story or the politics you always politics of a story, you always just team world, catch just drop the team world, catch phrase and you've done it. phrase no. and you've done it. you've for the last few you've done it for the last few months. still don't know what months. i still don't know what team don't think team world means. i don't think many viewers do. it's the many of the viewers do. it's the it's of german , it's the, the axis of german, french evil that has taken over the hearts and minds. so that's just veiled xenophobia. no, just veiled xenophobia. no, no, it xenophobia . it's like it isn't xenophobia. it's like it's who longer it's like people who no longer fight britain, but they're fight for britain, but they're fighting that goes fighting for something that goes off again. no, i'm not waffling. why do you accuse of why do you accuse me of waffling? i'm trying make ? waffling? i'm trying to make? because, making because, you know, making a point. what's a substantial point. what's a substantial point trying point that you're trying to make? else can say? make? no. what else can i say? paul say paul said he couldn't say anything new. there's nothing paul said he couldn't say anytt01g new. there's nothing paul said he couldn't say anytt01g ne peoplee's nothing paul said he couldn't say anytt01g ne people are iothing paul said he couldn't say anytt01g ne people are feding paul said he couldn't say anytt01g ne people are fed up new to say. people are fed up with the conservative party. why you you're having you know what? you're not having a good day today. people people are going, you're not. you are. you've been drinking . i really

you've been drinking. i really haven't, i have not i'm stone cold sober. you're stone cold sober. soben >> @ having a bad day. >> i'm not having a bad day. >> i'm not having a bad day. >> nice to me? >> why can't you be nice to me? to like me? i'm a visitor to people like me? i'm a visitor to this nation, louis. okay. what? understand is what? you don't understand is that is difficult that i'm. this is a difficult job. do, the show job. what i do, hosting the show is quite hard because is actually quite hard because it's you always it's not just you. you always accuse censoring and accuse me of censoring you and interrupting and it's not interrupting you, and it's not what doing. i'm trying to what i'm doing. i'm trying to structure and it structure the show and keep it together. you and you together. but you waffle and you talk nonsense, have talk about nonsense, and i have to in. think this is to rein you in. i think this is a difficult job. do you know what? maybe i think i'm not saying anybody could do this, what? maybe i think i'm not sayiyounnybody could do this, what? maybe i think i'm not sayiyou couldy could do this, what? maybe i think i'm not sayiyou could take|ld do this, what? maybe i think i'm not sayiyou could take ai do this, what? maybe i think i'm not sayiyou could take a common man but you could take a common man like paul and he could probably do a job than you did do a betterjob than you did today. give him today. why don't you give him a chance? you want paul to host the show? well, don't the show? yeah well, i don't want think you want to want him to. i think you want to host. do you want host the host. do you want to host the show? ask andrew. show? don't ask andrew. >> whatever you want. so >> i'll do whatever you want. so this is like a mutiny. >> i mean, you been >> i mean, have you been discussing this before the show? this actual now? this is an actual mutiny now? no. want. you want me? no. so you want. you want me? you want paul to host the show? you want paul to host the show? you want paul to host the show? you want to stop hosting the you want me to stop hosting the show? we'll okay. show? fine. okay, we'll do okay. fine. we will fine. what? okay, fine. we will do. your

do. we'll have it your way. we'll have it. >>

news radio. >> welcome back to headliners with your host paul cox . a story with your host paul cox. a story in the daily mail now. and perhaps the parting of the red sea was not a miracle. after all. louis? >> no, it doesn't seem that way. which is the latest news, but i've been saying that for years. anyway, this is in the daily mail. moses parting of the red sea may not been miracle, mail. moses parting of the red sea could ot been miracle, mail. moses parting of the red sea could have been miracle, mail. moses parting of the red sea could have beenan miracle, mail. moses parting of the red sea could have been because icle, mail. moses parting of the red sea could have been because ofz, and could have been because of meteorological phenomenon, and could have been because of metecsuggests,phenomenon, and could have been because of metec suggests, and omenon, and could have been because of metec suggests, and this non, and could have been because of metec suggests, and this was study suggests, and this was from university of leicester from the university of leicester and it was printed in the journal of interdisciplinary topics . it's basically saying

topics. it's basically saying that the people out there probably don't know what the parting of the red sea is. you know what the parting you're talking. i'm allowed to talk now am no no, finished my am i? no no, i've finished my point . point. >> well, it wasn't a good one. >> well, it wasn't a good one. >> i mean, the thing about this is trying explain is they're trying to explain the biblical trying is they're trying to explain the biiexplain trying is they're trying to explain the biiexplain them trying is they're trying to explain the biiexplain them away trying is they're trying to explain the biiexplain them away and'ing is they're trying to explain the biiexplain them away and sort of to explain them away and sort of trying take a demystify them, trying to take a demystify them, take numinous them. take the numinous out of them. you that? there's you know, why do that? there's the the red is the parting of the red sea is a wonderful moment in book of wonderful moment in the book of exodus. you and exodus. why would you try and suggest shifting suggest this is just shifting tectonic not tectonic plates? it's not convincing, louis, you know. yeah you in a mood? yeah what, are you in a mood? are going a mood are you going to be in a mood from happened before? of from what happened before? of course. professional. course. i'm a professional. well, i'm professional, well, yeah, i'm a professional, so you. faking it so i, unlike you. stop faking it . angry. anyway, louis. >> add some, add some, add some value. >> add some value. here. the value is this is. this is. people have just described the parting of the red it's not parting of the red sea. it's not just sea in in, in in just the red sea in in, in in egypt. it's there's every story in all of the world has this is the story . but they do. i mean, the story. but they do. i mean, but the way that they describe it here you know, it here is that, you know, because the process, the geological they're

geological process they're describing would be sort describing would have to be sort of very extended, prolonged of a very extended, prolonged process. the bible , moses process. but in the bible, moses holds staff and the parts holds the staff and the parts immediately. that's not it isn't explained by this, but exactly which is because it's not because it's not right. the reason why the parting of the red happened was because of red sea happened was because of mlikovsky of it. mlikovsky the not because of it. it was explained by him. it was explained by. but do not is well because you should do a little research. supposed to research. you're supposed to know she believe though. >> no, she not believe though. do though , that do you not believe though, that andrew's of the some andrew's right? some of the some of the mystique of the bible and the storytelling gives us the sort of things we love at this time of the year? i mean, velikovsky, you know, all this stuff, science at christmas. we don't i don't think exactly we don't i don't think exactly we don't want science at christmas. >> well, he's he's a religious believer. you're that believer. and you're saying that fantasy than reality. fantasy is better than reality. velikovsky okay, is a real explanation. >> louis, thanks very much. perhaps we'll move on now. continuing the mail, continuing with the daily mail, everyone has a favourite christmas movie, but . but everyone has a favourite christmas movie, but. but did yours make the official top ten? andrew. yeah, this is the daily

mail. >> e'- mail. >> it's interesting ei— >> um, it's an interesting one. imdb movie database or imdb internet movie database or sorry , the internet movie sorry, the internet movie database have ranked the top ten christmas films of all time. they don't say how they've ranked no, they don't at all, do they? >> the daily mail has sort of reported it wasn't. >> it doesn't say whether it's like a public vote or anything like a public vote or anything like that. uh, and, you know, it's traditional ones it's the traditional ones that you it's a you would expect. it's a wonderful it's course, wonderful life. it's of course, at uh, you've got, at number one, uh, you've got, uh, miracle on street, elf. uh, miracle on 34th street, elf. i that got in i don't know how that got in there. as opposed there. scrooge as opposed to scrooged would scrooged and i would have thought scrooged is the better film, to honest. die hard film, to be honest. die hard always that's at always gets there. that's at number missing. number two. they're missing. gremlins there. the gremlins is in there. the gremlins is one of my favourite, uh, but would suggest, uh, films. but i would suggest, though, they're missing though, is that they're missing the goodnight, think though, is that they're missing th an goodnight, think though, is that they're missing than incredibleoodnight, think though, is that they're missing than incredible christmas think though, is that they're missing th an incredible christmas film k is an incredible christmas film with and samuel with geena davis and samuel l jackson , and that's a fantastic jackson, and that's a fantastic one it has a female one because it has a female action at the heart it , action hero at the heart of it, and brilliant. and she's utterly brilliant. there's also it is kind fun, there's also it is kind of fun, though, isn't like having a, though, isn't it? like having a, uh, know, a christmas film, uh, you know, a christmas film, festive film time of festive film at this time of yeah festive film at this time of year. it doesn't feel year. it doesn't just feel like a again. yeah, yeah , a kid again. yeah, well, yeah, which good for me.

which wasn't good for me. i think people would enjoy think most people would enjoy seeing no, your childhood seeing it. no, your childhood isn't one you want to be reminded because reminded of. and i. because i remember, as i said, i think last year or two years ago, you asked favourite film asked me what my favourite film was street was and miracle on 34th street was and miracle on 34th street was is that your was my film. is that your favourite because favourite film? because in the end the end of the end of the at the end of the movie, they move into my hometown have an idyllic hometown and have an idyllic life and town. are you in life and i down town. are you in that as well? i'm not in that film as well? i'm not in it, no. >> you p-n t.- p. i know you're >> do you not? i know you're you're now. yeah. louis you're a brit now. yeah. louis there many brit british there aren't many brit british films list, do films on this on this list, do you i know this, i know you not? i know this, i know this is largely american. >> rubbish. >> all american rubbish. >> all american rubbish. >> aren't any? >> so. well, aren't there any? are any british films are there any british films here you'd see on here? you'd like to see on here? >> um, i know that's probably not, be honest. at end of not, to be honest. at the end of the day, british people don't know how to make themselves happy, let alone make anybody else thriving else happy. we've got a thriving film industry now, we film industry now, actually we have had a what have well, we haven't had a what was time made a good was the last time we made a good christmas though? christmas movie, though? >> that's very good i don't >> that's a very good i don't i can't. favourite can't. what's your favourite british christmas movie? >> it. it would have >> uh is it. well it would have to love actually. to be love actually. >> yeah. and love actually doesn't make it onto >> yeah. and love actually doesrdoes make it onto >> yeah. and love actually doesrdoes it? make it onto >> yeah. and love actually doesrdoes it? no.|ake it onto >> yeah. and love actually doesrdoes it? no.|ake i'thato here, does it? no. then that must mean that american. must mean that it's an american. uh,because. because americans

must mean that it's an american. uh, morerse. because americans must mean that it's an american. uh, more sentimental, americans must mean that it's an american. uh, more sentimental, that's:ans are more sentimental, that's why. they why. and that's why they do christmas movies so well. because they're they're christmas movies so well. becalin they're they're christmas movies so well. becalin touch'e they're christmas movies so well. becalin touch with. they're christmas movies so well. becalin touch with. they're'e christmas movies so well. becalin touch with. they're not. yeah. >> they've got a lot more faith in saccharine. >> they've got a lot more faith in sno.1arine. >> they've got a lot more faith in sno.1ari you know what is? >> no. do you know what it is? the made and imdb, the list is made and imdb, whatever is. that's whatever it is. and that's an american. an american american. it's an american thing. times thing. and there are five times as many as there are as many americans as there are british people. as simple as that. do gremlins, that. i do love gremlins, though. don't though. gremlins is well, don't we don't we all? think >> don't we all? i think we should probably now should probably move on now though. friends at the though. um, our friends at the guardian and england guardian now and health england say health at say that children's health is at risk. it's to. so it's risk. so it's over to. so it's over to gb own doctor, over to gb news own doctor, louis schaffer , to say something louis schaffer, to say something ridiculous. doubt . ridiculous. no doubt. >> why you have to say that? >> why do you have to say that? why do you undercut what i'm going because he's right? >> please carry on, louis. >> please carry on, louis. >> thank you. don't cut me off, paul >> thank you. don't cut me off, paul. um, well, this is health england. health. health of england's is a england's children. this is a report that was done in in from the university of london or the city university of some university london i'd university of london that i'd never and it's the never heard of. and it's the it's, it's for the british it's, it's, it's for the british have research unit have an obesity research unit and they try to find out why people are too fat. i personally have changed my attitude about

why are fat. i think why people are too fat. i think we're into a of war we're heading into a time of war and famine there's huge and famine where there's huge war going on. people going war going on. people are going to extra weight. paul to need the extra weight. paul is be prepared. is going to be prepared. oh, andrew, you are prepared. i mean, that's that's view. mean, that's that's a view. >> you make of >> andrew, what do you make of this? i don't know what he's saying. >> there that, you know, if we all gain weight, how is that going it's going to help in a war? it's good for cannibals. there's more. because in more. more meat. no, because in a not going be a war, we're not going to be able to have food. people able to have enough food. people could be again, lewis is not getting the heart the getting to the heart of the story he's not. the story here. no he's not. the story here. no he's not. the story about children. story is about children. children risk of children being at risk of diabetes heart and diabetes and heart disease and other conditions. other related conditions. what they're saying here is that the report saying the report is saying that the government enough, government is not doing enough, and actually, you know, and that actually, you know, when of pull back on when they sort of pull back on their anti—obesity the their anti—obesity measures, the people are people who are most impacted are the i'm kind of torn the kids. so i'm kind of torn about because kind of about this because i kind of think i don't like nanny think i don't like the nanny state stuff. don't state kind of stuff. i don't like say we're like it when the snp say we're going ban two for pizzas, going to ban two for one pizzas, we're minimum we're going to put minimum pricing on alcohol, we're going to prevent you from getting fat as that be possible as though that would be possible in do that in scotland. and they do that and of like patronise and that kind of like patronise thing, paternalistic thing where the is saying, we're

the government is saying, we're going diet for going to decide on your diet for you. don't it on you. i don't like it on principle. and we principle. well, no. and when we talk kids, it really talk about kids, isn't it really the who should be the parents who should be deaung the parents who should be dealing this? mean, dealing with this? i mean, shouldn't their children from preventing their children from becoming preventing their children from becwell,] preventing their children from becwell, certainly from my >> well, certainly from my perspective, not a big fan perspective, i'm not a big fan on big government. don't on on big government. i don't like however, like the nanny state. however, we a time of we live in a time of sort of obesity crisis and the obesity crisis and all the associated illnesses. i don't know if believe any know if you believe in any of those louis, but those illnesses, louis, but diabetes stuff like that diabetes and stuff like that probably doesn't. diabetes and stuff like that probabthinks;n't. diabetes and stuff like that probabthinks they can all >> he thinks they can all be cured by cow. no, cured by just by eating cow. no, you what it is. i'm trying you know what it is. i'm trying to different perspective. to give a different perspective. it's a different perspective. to give a different perspective. it's saying.ent perspective. to give a different perspective. it's saying.ent saying:tive. to give a different perspective. it's saying.ent saying not. it's saying. it's saying not necessarily. maybe. maybe obesity is good in the coming famine. war i think famine. and war years. i think that's ridiculous point. >> but we need to move on. a story the telegraph story from the telegraph now. and apparently aren't and apparently children aren't ungrateful. just lack good ungrateful. they just lack good manners. yeah. is fascinating. >> this is so. this from a >> this is so. this is from a journal called the, um, elsevier . i don't know how you pronounce elsevier. of cognitive elsevier. journal of cognitive development. doctor elsevier. journal of cognitive devel0|uhent. doctor elsevier. journal of cognitive devel0|uh ,1t. doctor elsevier. journal of cognitive devel0|uh , nicholas doctor elsevier. journal of cognitive devel0|uh , nicholas knowles,r called, uh, nicholas knowles, and he's done this research study. a proper study in study. so it's a proper study in a journal . and a proper medical journal. and he's when little he's saying that when little children, the ones he's saying that when little childr< seven, the ones he's saying that when little childreseven, you the ones he's saying that when little childreseven, you givee ones he's saying that when little childr< seven, you give them; under seven, you give them a

present. don't generally present. they don't generally say you. and this is say thank you. and this is largely been interpreted them largely been interpreted as them just ungrateful . just being really ungrateful. and scientific and this science, scientific study is saying that's not the case. the reason why they don't is understand the is they don't understand the concept until they is they don't understand the conce the until they is they don't understand the conce the age until they is they don't understand the conce the age of until they is they don't understand the conce the age of seven. 1til they is they don't understand the conce the age of seven. and hey is they don't understand the conce the age of seven. and what reach the age of seven. and what that that if you give that means is that if you give them a present, think in them a present, they think in their that they say them a present, they think in their you, that they say them a present, they think in their you, they they say them a present, they think in their you, they will1ey say them a present, they think in their you, they will be say them a present, they think in their you, they will be expected thank you, they will be expected to give to reciprocate and give the present they don't present back. and so they don't say thank you. so it's more a kind of social, social awkwardness from, young awkwardness from, from the young that's interesting. awkwardness from, from the young that's see 1teresting. awkwardness from, from the young that's see1teresin1g. awkwardness from, from the young that's see iteresin my own >> now i see that in my own daughter, i've seen in daughter, and i've seen that in family members and stuff like that. louis? that. what have you seen, louis? i've in myself. i've seen it in myself. >> never said you >> you've never said thank you for anything. the way. for anything. no just the way. you sorry because you can't say sorry because i never enough . i never never got enough. i never got enough so how do enough in life. and so how do you thank you? i think i you say thank you? i think i think this is a ridiculous story because. you're because. because when you're young, just used to young, children are just used to getting stuff. don't. getting stuff. they don't. they're spoilt children. getting stuff. they don't. they're you?;poilt children. getting stuff. they don't. they're you? ;poilt should an. should you? you should spoil children. good children. i was a very good parent 1 years old. i parent from 0 to 1 years old. i believe give you give believe you give your. you give your children everything. if i if i got given a present and i didn't thank you, i'd be, didn't say thank you, i'd be, you into bucket you know, thrown into a bucket of whatever. so should of glass or whatever. so should

you baby to be thankful? >> that's the point of >> no, that's not the point of the though. louis is the the story, though. louis is the point of the story is like andrew is about andrew says, this is about children expect andrew says, this is about child christmas, expect andrew says, this is about child christmas, but expect andrew says, this is about child christmas, but also xpect andrew says, this is about child christmas, but also about from christmas, but also about the children. the psychology of children. >> interesting, you >> it's very interesting, you know, way that we interpret know, the way that we interpret them, because tend them, because we do tend to interpret children in the way that adults would that we think adults would react. this is suggesting there's quite there's something quite essential about the cognitive development essential about the cognitive devel0|they're being means they're not being ungrateful. i think that's really haven't really it's something i haven't thought i'm quite thought of before. so i'm quite interested in the story. >> thank you very much, >> well, thank you very much, andrew. and this andrew. the time's now and this story lesbians with story mixes lesbians with science. blow up science. louis hmm'hmm blow up dolls . dolls. >> what's that mean? i don't >> um, what's that mean? i don't know with science. it know, lesbians with science. it does doesn't sense. does. it doesn't make any sense. i don't know what's the story? >> no what is the story? >> yes. no what is the story? >> yes. no what is the story? >> him do the job. you're not sitting in that chair anymore. well, i well, it's not, it's not i was i pointed out it's not easy. it isn't you're still angry. pointed out it's not easy. it isn't couple 'e still angry. pointed out it's not easy. it isn't couple swapl angry. pointed out it's not easy. it isn't couple swap embryos to lesbian couple swap embryos to have each other's babies. what are these two. two women are these two? two. two women living hampshire. and they living in hampshire. and they met new zealand or whatever. met in new zealand or whatever. and to have babies at and they want to have babies at the same they got the exact same time. so they got some to donate some american dude to donate a spare. because i'm spare. not me, because i'm sperme deficient and so they're

having they're, they've taken the eggs and they've swapped the eggs. so, so a is raising bees. bees child and b is raising eggs . what makes them happy? child nothing wrong with that. well you could just say i know women. i've been married before. oh, lois. horrible. >> lois , the women thing. >> lois, the women thing. i mean, this is 20, 23. now, these lesbians, we've seen women bring up thousands and thousands , if up thousands and thousands, if not children. not millions of children. perfectly well, men well. we perfectly well, men as well. we know you have to say nice things because you're happily married. >> i'm not happily married, but it you got a problem it sounds like you got a problem with sex relationships, with same sex relationships, i think. there's can think. i think there's i can just two women. just see these two women. i can see screaming each see them screaming at each other. raising other. you're not raising my babyin other. you're not raising my baby in your the way. baby in your womb the way. because had such terrible because he's had such terrible experiences. the way women. >> is, isn't oh, >> well, this is, isn't it? oh, andrew, what you make of this? >> well, i mean, just think, >> well, i mean, i just think, you look, i suppose i just you know, look, i suppose ijust think if consenting adults are doing what they want do, doing what they want to do, that's you that's absolutely fine. and, you know, it's a no know, i support it's a no brainer for me. i support gay people having kids want people having kids if they want to i don't see why.

to have kids. i don't see why. it's see that's it's i don't see why that's i agree, there's something a bit it's i don't see why that's i agreaboutre's something a bit it's i don't see why that's i agre about the something a bit it's i don't see why that's i agreabout the wayething a bit it's i don't see why that's i agre about the way they're bit odd about the way they're swapping around and doing swapping eggs around and doing all that sort yeah, but swapping eggs around and doing all principle yeah, but swapping eggs around and doing all principle of yeah, but swapping eggs around and doing all principle of lesbian but the principle of lesbian parents, not a problem. parents, lois, is not a problem. >> i'm starting to feel like andrew now. you're always. you're always interrupting. and andrew hadn't quite finished his point, and you. >> know what? just i don't >> you know what? i just i don't like happened. i helped >> you know what? i just i don't like get happened. i helped >> you know what? i just i don't like get yourappened. i helped >> you know what? i just i don't like get your your1ed. i helped >> you know what? i just i don't like get your your little helped >> you know what? i just i don't like get your your little job ped you get your your little job here. i've been so supportive of you. how i've you. everybody knows how i've sublimated success on sublimated my own success on this for paul. sublimated my own success on thishey, for paul. sublimated my own success on thishey, look, )aul. sublimated my own success on thishey, look, look , andrew's right. >> this is a difficult job. >> this is a difficult job. >> i've got the director in my yeah >> i've got the director in my year. i have the autocue, year. i have got the autocue, but that's to be read. i've but that's got to be read. i've got to manage you. andrew's perfect. he's great he's perfect. he's a great he's a great he's doing very great panellist. he's doing very well. great panellist. he's doing very welcome don't have to be >> come on. you don't have to be this way. paul. look, you you were negative. well, were so negative. well, i'll tell louis. tell tell you what, louis. i'll tell you don't host in you what. why don't you host in the and you can the next section and you can see what like? no. okay i'm what it's like? no no. okay i'm going it this way. i'm going to put it this way. i'm the boss. are going to host the boss. you are going to host in section, then in the next section, and then you'll like. okay. you'll see what it's like. okay. we'll see how that goes. no okay okay, okay. >> think we're going to

louis, you're on air. >> louis. okay. welcome back to headliners. i'm your host, louis schaefer and the telegraph and the telegraph. have a story i found particularly interesting . found particularly interesting. all yes. he's not easy as it is. >> women have gained almost three inches on their waistline since the 90s. that's not me saying that. that's the telegraph, by the way. the data from the mass survey across england shows the average woman has waist span has gone from 35in from 32 up to 35in since

the 19. that's quite a gradual way. yeah. and the men it does say the men have done the same just a slower rate. so just at a slower rate. so essentially gone three essentially it's gone up three inches average the 90s. inches on average since the 90s. >> not individual women >> but it's not individual women ballooning by three inches over a decades. an average of. >> yeah, an average the >> yeah, an average of all the women. imagine one women. so i imagine that's one maybe sizes have maybe two dress sizes that have gone time. gone up in that time. >> paul, ask you question? >> you made us. >> you made us. >> do you think it's right that you comment on this? well, gone up drops. you comment on this? well, gone up here drops. you comment on this? well, gone up here we)ps. you comment on this? well, gone up here we are. here we are. >> here we are. here we are. louis. i'm a man of great experience this, i? experience of this, aren't i? and there there we and you know, there are there we have a we have a plethora of fast now, sort of fast foods now, the sort of foods would have been foods that maybe would have been available as a treat. >> louis, you're always >> foods. louis, you're always fat i mean, fat shaming on the show. i mean, look, interesting. and look, this is interesting. and actually, strikes actually, this article strikes me little bit. me as fat shaming a little bit. yeah, a problem with yeah, we do have a problem with an crisis, it's not an obesity crisis, but it's not just individual just to do with individual people greedy whatever. people being greedy or whatever. it's to with a cultural it's to do with a cultural shift. to do the shift. it's to do with the things all eat processed things that we all eat processed food, of thing. you food, that kind of thing. you know, thought know, i've even thought about this, thought lot this, andrew. i've thought a lot about of course. what about it. yeah of course. what gives you the right to even talk

about you know about women, period. do you know any i know? i know many any women? i know? i know many women. have much better women. and i have much better relationships with women than you sound of you have from the sound of things. i studied things. um, but i have studied them. i've studied them from a bush. >> you're a woman? woman >> you're a woman? a woman ologist >> you're a woman? a woman olo int yeah in a bush. >> in a bush? yeah in a bush. but it? you know, it's but isn't it? you know, it's interesting that this article, i mean, actually, mean, look, actually, on a serious it is the article serious point, it is the article is pointing out that there is a problem. know, if sizes are problem. you know, if sizes are gradually and more, gradually getting more and more, this pressure on this does put extra pressure on the there are more health the nhs. there are more health issues we issues involved and maybe we should something. should be doing something. i don't we could don't know what, but we could and evidence. and i think it's evidence. >> you often see on >> i mean, you often see on social media photographs of social media now, photographs of people 80s, the people in the 1970s and 80s, the times grew and times when we grew up and everybody looked slim everybody looked relatively slim and they and healthy. yeah, they they would only eat treats when they and eat them as treats. >> but they did have desserts and things. >> and things. » m and things. >> did. but they >> of course they did. but they were more active i think, as well. >> i mean, blaming that, why don't ask what do? don't people ask me what to do? i'm the who's lost all this i'm the one who's lost all this weight used be. look at the weight i used to be. look at the look the picture but look at the picture of me. but you that what we have you would say that what we have to just eat meat to do is just simply eat meat and but. and raw eggs and nothing but. and raw eggs and nothing but. and raw eggs

and raw steak, which i don't think is for you either. think is good for you either. louis. know, i you louis. you know, i know you don't good, this don't think it's good, but this is look at how great is proof. look at how great i look. you thin, look. yeah, you might be thin, but you're probably wriggling with but you're probably wriggling wit have on. you've we have to move on. you've probably tapeworm. we've probably got a tapeworm. we've got. that's probably what it is. that's why lost weight. that's why you lost the weight. well, what well, that's actually what that's need to that's actually what we need to do. uh, and. okay. and do. okay and, uh, and. okay. and uh. you even read uh. what? you can't even read the can't. you the autocue. you can't. you don't what i don't don't even know what i don't want to. >> it's a difficult job. >> it's a difficult job. >> it's a difficult job. >> i told you how hard it was, and that hard. i'm and you did that hard. i'm reading. let me reading. let me. give me let me read. about this story read. what about this story about from about nigella lawson from the guardian? yeah. so guardian? okay. andrew. yeah. so nigella lawson, we got there in the is story the end. so this is a story from the end. so this is a story from the guardian. she she's the guardian. uh, she says she's too use the too self—conscious to use the word because in one of word microwave because in one of her and a clip her shows. and this was a clip that went she called it that went viral, she called it a microwave . microwave? and microwave. microwave? yeah. and this became a viral clip . and this became a viral clip. and now she says that she has so much attention about it that she's actually really nervous about word microwave . about saying the word microwave. but it's and she's very but it's very and she's very influential. realise influential. i didn't realise this talking about influential. i didn't realise this when talking about influential. i didn't realise this when she, talking about influential. i didn't realise this when she, shezing about influential. i didn't realise this when she, she actuallyrt how when she, she actually doubled the sale of goose fat

after she endorsed it in a roast potato recipe on uk. that is the power of nigella lawson. yeah, um, but it's funny to me because obviously it was a joke when she was microwave microwaves . was saying microwave microwaves. that's that's a joke . that's a joke. that's a joke. it's not meant be taken it's not meant to be taken seriously, says. that's seriously, she says. that's the way in family, way they say it in their family, but they will do so for whimsical purposes, right? of course. been taken. course. and but it's been taken. paul course. and but it's been taken. paul, andrew. paul, say something. andrew. i was good was actually making a good point. thought, yeah, i don't point. i thought, yeah, i don't think always think maybe you always say i'm not a good point. but not making a good point. but lewis, the skill of lewis, part of the skill of being host is that detect being a host is that you detect when there's actually a good point let it ride point going on. you let it ride and you when it's i and then you come in when it's i didn't hear a good point, and i think you're taking think you're just taking advantage position as advantage of your position as the this show. the producer of this show. um, paul the producer of this show. um, paul, you say something? >> think you were making >> well, i think you were making a good point there, andrew. i'll just for my annual make an just say, for my annual make an even but won't even better one. but he won't let me. well, i mean, don't let me. well, i mean, i don't see tries to see this. it almost tries to paint as of a class paint this as kind of a class thing. i think, where it's kind of microwave because nigella thing. i think, where it's kind of micrcisave because nigella thing. i think, where it's kind of micrcis she's because nigella thing. i think, where it's kind of micrcis she's posh, se nigella thing. i think, where it's kind of micrcis she's posh, she'sjella lawson is she's posh, she's satirised, don't see satirised, but i don't see it as that. it's whimsical, it's funny. might a funny. posh people might have a different being funny, different way of being funny, but microwave is funny.

different way of being funny, blike microwave is funny. different way of being funny, blike to microwave is funny. different way of being funny, blike to saynicrowave is funny. different way of being funny, blike to sayni she says it in a very sexualised way. >> she? >> does she? >> does she? >> way she says she >> i love the way she says she was too self—conscious. she's the basically the kind of person who basically drew part . she's drew ruled over part. she's like, she's the most sexualised person on tv and she's so conscious, okay, that's very good.i conscious, okay, that's very good. i didn't mean to interrupt you, andrew. i'm trying my best over is. move on to over here. this is. move on to the time . okay? and here's the next time. okay? and here's a story, paul, about this a story, paul, what about this story about one of my strong suits? commune nation? yes . suits? commune nation? yes. >> how can we learn to talk to auens >> how can we learn to talk to aliens and stop in intergalactic war? can we learn to talk to labuschagne? >> yeah, well, this is it. >> yeah, well, this is it. >> this is the point, isn't it? you know, i mean, there's lots of points here, but we can't talk don't know how talk to lewis. i don't know how we're to, we're going to talk to, uh, aliens, but article here is aliens, but the article here is sort of painting a picture. a book featuring experts such as noam , fan of the show, noam chomsky, fan of the show, has examined how linguistics could be used to decode

communication from another world. and, of course, for me, immediately, this seems very pedestrian, as if this sounds like something from the 50s and 60s don't think if 60s as well. i don't think if auens 60s as well. i don't think if aliens were to invade that, eh, we would be able to understand them talk the them enough to talk the language. the language. would we know the dialect? the accent? >> i think it's >> yeah, but i think it's important like noam important people like noam chomsky kind chomsky are doing this kind of. i actually like, know, i actually think like, you know, if about it, there are if you think about it, there are billions milky billions of stars in the milky way, right? billions of stars that which way, right? billions of stars that there which way, right? billions of stars that there will which way, right? billions of stars that there will be which way, right? billions of stars that there will be habitable means there will be habitable planets then this planets somewhere. so then this is fermi's is a thing called fermi's paradox, basically paradox, which is basically that you know, given that there's high that is high likelihood that there is extraterrestrial life, come extraterrestrial life, how come there complete of there is a complete lack of conclusive evidence, and it means aliens just means that the aliens just aren't there's aren't reaching us? and there's aren't reaching us? and there's a what it is that a a theory that what it is that a civilisation reaches a point where it becomes advanced where it becomes so advanced that destroy that it will always destroy itself. and lots of people now think of think we're on the verge of that. why don't that. and that's why we don't see aliens, because they've that. and that's why we don't see blown iens, because they've that. and that's why we don't see blown themselves;e they've that. and that's why we don't see blown themselves up.1ey've that. and that's why we don't see blown themselves up.1ethink all blown themselves up. i think there's to it. i think there's something to it. i think there's something to it. i think there is. i think there's there is. i don't think there's anything, to this, anything, anything to this, basically, stars are basically, because the stars are so if you, if if so far apart. if you, if you if you a of dust here, you have a speck of dust here, do you know, within near and

that was whatever it is . all that was whatever it is. all right. moving on. how right. so we're moving on. how can we learn to talk to i think i've all right. job on i've done it. all right. job on this thing. you haven't finished it. actually doing the it. you're actually doing the job at the moment. >> have going. >> you have to keep going. >> you have to keep going. >> appraise, >> you can't self appraise, comment while you're comment on the job while you're doing job. doing the job. >> we can have that discussion doing the job. >> win:an have that discussion doing the job. >> win the have that discussion doing the job. >> win the green 1at discussion doing the job. >> win the green room.cussion after in the green room. the people to see that i'm people want to see that i'm a human being and not somebody infallible. but andrew, what about this story about one of my strong suits relationships? that's another one. not just communication. so communication. yeah. okay, so apparently a research, apparently this is a research, but research but although they say research but although they say research but called but it's a website called finding the one. com so i'm not sure how rigorous research finding the one. com so i'm not su|but)w rigorous research finding the one. com so i'm not su|but)w rigbasically research finding the one. com so i'm not su|but)w rigbasically resethat is, but they basically said that graduates have a better love life. they have longer relationships, and they're better in bed. and there's this thing called a sapiosexual . thing called a sapiosexual. right. and those are people who are, erotically charged, are, um, erotically charged, erotically attracted to people are, um, erotically charged, eroti arey attracted to people are, um, erotically charged, erotiare smartcted to people are, um, erotically charged, erotiare smart people people are, um, erotically charged, erotiare smart people who le are, um, erotically charged, erotiare smart people who are who are smart people who are intelligent. so the smarter you are, are at sex, are, the better you are at sex, the you sustaining the better you are at sustaining relationships. theory relationships. that's the theory here. i'm not so sure about that. >> no, mean, people bad >> no, i mean, people love bad boys, they ? boys, don't they? >> they do. >> they do. >> and stupid people. yeah, maybe people have . or

maybe these people have. or maybe these people have. or maybe people have lot of maybe these people have a lot of money. running out of money. hey, we're running out of time. very time. thank you very much. i want to our host. i want time. thank you very much. i wathank our host. i want time. thank you very much. i wathank andrew|r host. i want time. thank you very much. i wathank andrew doyle. i want time. thank you very much. i wathank andrew doyle. andint time. thank you very much. i wathank andrew doyle. and it to thank andrew doyle. and i want cox and want to thank paul paul cox and there we go. and what we do is we've got our calendar, uh, this is still available for next yeah is still available for next year. so if you can. whoa whoa whoa , for goodness sake, i'm whoa, for goodness sake, i'm sorry. i'm not having that advertising calendar on our advertising his calendar on our boxing day newspaper show. let's get some professionalism back in the room. thank you ever so much for joining for us this special festive edition of headliners. it's been an absolute thrill to host at least a third of the show with my wonderful panellists, paul cox and my sort of semi wonderful panellist louis who has louis shaffer, who has apparently injured and apparently injured himself. and i'm going sued. i'm probably going to get sued. go away louis. uh, happy christmas season . greetings, god christmas season. greetings, god bless us everyone , and i'll see bless us everyone, and i'll see you tomorrow . you tomorrow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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gb news. >> it's 9 pm. it's christmas coming up tonight on your christmas day evening with me. josh howie . in my big opinion, josh howie. in my big opinion, i'll be talking about whether the magic of christmas has been lost and what can we do to get it back. royal expert angela levin will be here to break down the king's speech and share the latest royal gossip . comedian latest royal gossip. comedian tobias pearson will be joining me later for some festive cheer from stockholm. and very , from stockholm. and i'm very, very lucky to be joined by a wonderful christmas panel. ingnd wonderful christmas panel. ingrid tarrant , andy macdonald ingrid tarrant, andy macdonald and chloe dobbs. ingrid tarrant, andy macdonald and chloe dobbs . they are going and chloe dobbs. they are going to be getting in some of that champagne in a bit. it's not real champagne. merry christmas everyone. this is gb news tonight me. josh howie. everyone. this is gb news tonigdo me. josh howie. everyone. this is gb news tonigdo this me. josh howie. everyone. this is gb news tonigdo this .1e. josh howie.

let's do this. and thank you for joining us. please let us know how you've been celebrating your christmas so far. and do you think we lost the magic of these special days? and how are we going to get them back? me now back? email me now gbviews@gbnews.com. see you after the headlines . after the headlines. >> just got josh good evening i'm ray anderson in the gb news room. our top stories. the king has thanked the nation's volunteers in his christmas address, describing them as a selfless army . his majesty said selfless army. his majesty said they are the essential backbone of our society . he thanked the of our society. he thanked the hundreds of volunteers who attended his coronation in westminster abbey earlier on this year, and said that their presence was a call to all of us to love and care for all on this christmas day . christmas day. >> my heart and my thanks go to all who are serving one another.

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