each and it was officially £253 each and it was officially a white christmas for 2023. this is a cheat, isn't it.7 as parts of northern scotland, on the very high ground were hit by a light dusting of snow . sorry, light dusting of snow. sorry, that's a rip off now, as many begins travel home after celebrations so the met office has issued yellow weather warnings for ice, rain and wind for today and tomorrow . and for today and tomorrow. and later in the show we'll get an in—depth analysis of king charles's christmas speech. you didn't miss it, did you.7 i charles's christmas speech. you didn't miss it, did you? i hope not, where he pays tribute to a selfless army of volunteers in heart felt christmas address and tens of thousands are expected to meet at boxing day hunts across the uk , often attended by across the uk, often attended by anti hunting protesters. this yearis anti hunting protesters. this year is predicted to be no different . it .

different. it. in any case, not about me . it's in any case, not about me. it's all about you. your thoughts so get in touch. let us know what you're thinking about all our talking points today. email us at gbviews@gbnews.com. leave your name and where you're watching or listening from, but first here is the news with the very lovely sophia wenzler. >> thank you dawn. good morning. it's 931. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom live . labour is the gb newsroom live. labour is considering plans to process asylum seekers claims overseas , asylum seekers claims overseas, according to a report in the times . as shadow home secretary times. as shadow home secretary yvette cooper and shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock have reportedly been speaking to asylum experts to draw up an alternative way to stop migrants crossing the channelin stop migrants crossing the channel in small boats. the plan would see asylum seekers have their claims processed in a second country, with successful applicants allowed to enter the uk. labour leader sir keir

starmer has previously dismissed the government's rwanda scheme as a gimmick . the government's rwanda scheme as a gimmick. tory mp mike freer tells gb news that his constituency offices remain a crime scene as police investigate a suspected arson attack. fire crews were called to the building in north london on christmas eve after it was partially damaged by the blaze. the mp told gb news police are examining cctv footage and he does not yet know when his office will be released back to him . no one was office will be released back to him. no one was in office will be released back to him . no one was in the building him. no one was in the building at the time of the incident . at the time of the incident. marks and spencer's and john lewis are among major retailers who have opted to remain closed this boxing day. traditionally the day after christmas is one of the busiest shopping days of the high streets, with this year expected to be the biggest in five years, with pets at home and home bargains , as well as and home bargains, as well as other major supermarkets , aldi, other major supermarkets, aldi, iceland and the majority of waitrose stores will not open today. more than three quarters

of people are expected to do the majority of their shopping onune majority of their shopping online instead , and you can get online instead, and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now it's back to dawn . thank you sophia and dawn. thank you sophia and happy boxing day . boxing day. >> merry christmas, whatever you're doing . it's a 26th of you're doing. it's a 26th of december and i hope you're having a lovely time. still i'm dawn neesom and i'll be with you for the next hour and half and for the next hour and a half and we lots of things to talk we have lots of things to talk about. how was your christmas day? going ? did day? how's boxing day going? did you the king's speech? did you enjoy the king's speech? did you enjoy the king's speech? did you it used to be you watch it used to be religious in our house, but not sure we got it this year. the biggest sports events the day biggest sports events of the day and also tens of thousands are expected meet at boxing day expected to meet at boxing day hunts across the uk . joining me hunts across the uk. joining me in the studio is broadcaster and journalist claire muldoon and former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley. thank you very

much for joining charlie rowley. thank you very much forjoining me today, dawn much for joining me today, dawn on boxing day. really lovely to have you and now what are we going to talk about? first of all, i think we're going to go straight in on the biggie. how was your christmas day? >> mine was lovely. thank you very i had my back . very much. i had my kids back. they've i'm an empty they've not they've i'm an empty nester . i've still got one nester now. i've still got one in australia the other three in australia but the other three were back and it was truly special. it wonderful. and special. it was wonderful. and i love and i can't wait to get love it. and i can't wait to get back them we need to back to them now. so we need to hurry up. >> yeah. well, okay. all right. quick. charlie, how was christmas we're all christmas then? we're going. all right, to right, well, i couldn't wait to get here. >> dawn, i know. no, it's fine, it's fine. >> you could have dressed for the part, charlie . the part, charlie. >> i thought we were behind. i'm sorry. clearly . sorry. i'm clearly, clearly. >> come on. i mean, charlie, she's got her. you know, claire's got her lovely gold shoes on. i've got sparkly shoes on, too. and you've got. i've trainers. >> my white is my white is on. >> my white is my white is on. >> but party at bottom. >> but party at the bottom. business top . business at the top. >> exactly, exactly. no, it was, it was a good christmas. it was. it absolutely fine. it was. it was absolutely fine. it was. we're a small family, not too

it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going ll family, not too it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going on amily, not too it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going on anily, not too it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going on a little. not too it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going on a little. didt too it was absolutely fine. it was. we're going on a little. did you�* much going on a little. did you cook? um, i helped can you cook at the table? i can, russell, can you? russell, can you hold on a minute? >> hold on. >> hold on. >> can you rustle up russell? >> can you rustle up russell? >> you have something later on? maybe >> hold on a minute. now, i always find that it's acceptable for to say that. can you for a woman to say that. can you actually cook now? in my house, if didn't cook, i if the husband didn't cook, i would literally death. would literally starve to death. i you not no. i am, do you not cook? no. claire he won't let me boil a kettle for a cup of tea. i'm so bad, dawn. >> that's lovely service. that's the spirit of christmas. is it not? that's a lovely marriage. well, it's lasted a long time. >> yes, he actually did a lovely dish for us yesterday. >> and it was like it was mostly fish. i think it wasn't quite good at identifying it because it might have had a glass of champagne by that point. just one obviously. um, but no, it was a really, really lovely christmas day. >> lovely. christmas day. >> i ovely. christmas day. >> i love. christmas day. >> i love cooking for other people. not good people. i'm not very good cooking for myself because i think a bit of think that's a bit sort of boring. too boring. it's always just too easy something in there. easy to put something in there. i don't like clearing

i just don't like the clearing up of it. >> that's the problem. i'm a great cook. i'm absolutely fantastic cook. and you know, everyone loves coming to our house it's such house for food because it's such a such a lovely way to a it's such a lovely way to invite people in. it's very warm way through food and drink and stuff. it's really lovely. stuff. so it's really lovely. and feast and especially the feast of christmas important christmas is very important to us. beautiful. but us. so it was beautiful. but even we've got friends even today we've got friends coming round. um, so it's going to be lovely. to be so lovely. >> the whole left >> you're doing the whole left over are doing that? over thing. are you doing that? >> sort of like there hasn't been much left over, have to been much left over, i have to say. ham, big turkey. say. big ham, big turkey. i mean, you've seen the size of my son. mean, on, he plays rugby. >> oh, well, we've got nowhere to go don't we? to go now, don't we? >> coming over. yeah yeah. such a good cook. >> leftovers. so, um, so what are you to today, then? i are you up to today, then? i mean, we know are now going mean, we know you are now going and lovely and having a lovely, lovely meal, should be starting here. >> actually, we should have a glass something in front of glass of something in front of us. shouldn't we? glass of something in front of us. we»uldn't we? glass of something in front of us. we do. n't we? glass of something in front of us. we do. claire. it's called, >> we do. claire. it's called, um, h2o . yeah, we have um, h2o gb h2o. yeah, we have been. let's not gin . honestly, been. let's not gin. honestly, mum, if you're watching, um, but we have if you're watching. >> i love that we have been let

down. >> i'm sorry to say it's very sad announcement. um, because it's no longer with us. he's just been sacked. um, the producer. the producer forgot to supply. shall we name ? supply. shall we name? >> shall we name the producer? we're to name him. we're allowed to name him. >> don't think we should >> i don't think we should mention dean by name. >> no. spur. no no no >> no, no, no. spur. no no no no no no no name. so i mean but what did you what did you write the king's speech. >> in our house it used to >> yeah. in our house it used to be a religious man sit down be a religious man to sit down and watch the queen. i have to confess , i missed yesterday. confess, i missed it yesterday. the speech did you watch the king's speech did you watch it? >> it was. it's never been something on our radar to do. i mean, i'm not much of a monarchist, i have to say, but i did really respect and admire the late queen. king charles, for me, just doesn't quite catch it, doesn't quite hit the note for me. so in any event, it wouldn't have been something as a norm for us to do on christmas day. so therefore it completely flew out of the window, metaphorically speaking. of course. about charlie? course. what about you, charlie? >> think i did suggest

>> yeah, i think i did suggest it at 3:00, because we've got a baby niece, two years old. oh timings all sort of, you know, revolved around. yeah. absolutely. right. to say whether you're opening christmas presents she's bit ill at presents and she's a bit ill at the minute. so it was just sort of, know, when she's awake of, you know, when she's awake when but it got to when she's not so. but it got to about 3:00 when we started to eat. and i did suggest to the, to the table, can we just watch the king's speech. and i was i got shrift the rest got short shrift from the rest of so it was a sort of the family. so it was a sort of the family. so it was a sort of no, no, we're going to eat now. i said, okay, i'll watch it later i didn't quite get later on. i didn't quite get round to watching it all, but i did see the highlights of it. and him talking about the war and particularly and conflict, particularly in the making sure the middle east, and making sure that all extend peace. that we can all extend peace. and thought was really and i thought that was really interesting, actually, as a monarch, to actually delve into. >> there obviously >> i mean, there was obviously his it's very, very close his claim. it's very, very close to charles's heart, but to king charles's heart, but also the faith, also as defender of the faith, as of the church of as head of the church of england. was lovely england. i thought it was lovely that he actually quoted the bible and mentioned the fact of peace and goodwill in this festive season, especially as you francis, head of

you had pope francis, head of the catholic church at the vatican, the mass vatican, for the papal mass midnight that, midnight mass to say that, you know, birthplace jesus know, the birthplace of jesus clearly was jerusalem. um, regardless you're regardless if you're if you're not or whatever, not a christian or whatever, that christians believe. that is what christians believe. and well to and justin welby as well to often what was said. and often mirror what was said. and they had both them. if you they had both of them. if you actually look at the speeches and at quotes, they and look at the quotes, they haven't come out on the side of the israelis the side of the the israelis nor the side of the palestinians vis a vis hamas, they actually spoke about the, you know, the need for a ceasefire, being pro—life on both sides. um, but the release also of the hostages that are being held on both sides and the innocence, the innocence of the children, especially at the time of christmas, birth of christ being caught up . in all of this. being caught up. in all of this. i mean, there was very powerful messages there. >> i think that's one of the things, charlie, i was concerned about, because the queen was always apolitical always completely apolitical in literally she did. literally everything she did. charles, we know, was always charles, as we know, was always actually remember actually got involved. remember the he the spidery letters that he wrote parliament? um, i was wrote to parliament? um, i was a bit worried that he would be a bit worried that he would be a bit more political he

bit more political than he actually i think claire actually was, but i think claire was a very was right. it was a very balanced speech, wasn't it? >> i think so, and claire's absolutely right. you know, the interfaith, um, integration. so making that people of making sure that people of different faiths can get along, that have a multicultural that we can have a multicultural society and be successful within it. and it's not just talking about those in the middle east, but when there are, but, you know, when there are, you issues in this you know, issues in this country, you have a cost of country, when you have a cost of living crisis, when there is an issue politics and issue with domestic politics and people themselves more people do find themselves more entrenched own views, entrenched in their own views, and more and they become slightly more hate it's about hate in the world, it's about making sure that there is that peace and harmony throughout. and you and you're absolutely right. you know, he's been very the king has for climate has been advocate for climate change. uh, legislation and change. uh uh, legislation and for or for more things to be donein for or for more things to be done in that field. i think in november, his birthday, november, on his birthday, he set campaign make sure set up a campaign to make sure that waste was going not to that food waste was going not to the was going to people who might be sleeping or to might be sleeping rough or to people can use food people that can use that food rather going into rather than it just going into landfill. he's he's a landfill. so he's he's a campaigner heart. but you're campaigner by heart. but you're right. he's right. making sure that he's above per se, like the above politics per se, like the late queen, is obviously a very

difficult tightrope for him to balance. i navigate . i think balance. but i navigate. i think he's been getting it right. >> i think he. and what did >> no, i think he. and what did you living tree? it you make of his living tree? it was very the one thing was a very the one thing i noticed, i mean, if you did watch at home, was he was watch at home, he was he was doing it in the, the doing it in the, in the buckingham palace about buckingham palace about buckingham palace about buckingham palace room where just front the balcony. just in front of the balcony. was it you living was it so you had the living tree, basically means it's tree, which basically means it's planted pot of so planted in a pot of earth, so you can take it out in the garden afterwards with orange on it and nothing really sparkly on there, of there, was it? there's bits of orange hanging there, but it orange hanging on there, but it meant he got around the meant around. he got around the problem of family photos. problem of having family photos. you queen always used you know, the queen always used to it sitting at a like to do it sitting at a like a table with family photos dotted around, always got taken around, and she always got taken to and the would to task, and the people would always interpret which picture she didn't have. she had and she didn't have. harry and meghan the other year, did was interpreted. >> that's matriarch >> that's quite a matriarch thing though, isn't you thing though, isn't it? you never used go round to your never used to go round to your mum's granny's or mum's or your granny's or something that. and then something like that. and then whoever, or whoever, whichever child or whoever, whichever chil(the whatever was flavour of the month, the portrait, picture month, the portrait, the picture was like first on the was always like first on the fridge birthday thing.

fridge or birthday thing. >> yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, very >> yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, verthere's us in our >> there's only two of us in our family. it's like we both got pride of place. but i thought that was quite clever though, charlie, because it got around any the political division any of the political division that currently, as we know, that is currently, as we know, in the royal family that is currently, as we know, in tyeah,yal family that is currently, as we know, in tyeah,yethininly that is currently, as we know, in tyeah,yethink iy that is currently, as we know, in tyeah,yethink i think that's >> yeah, i think i think that's right. i mean, house right. and i mean, our house i mean, i've only got one sister and, you know, down, you know, over overhanging sort the over overhanging sort of the fireplace of the fireplace down one side of the wall, got my sister and wall, you've got my sister and on other side got our on the other side we've got our cats. so i think i know where i know that's exactly what i know where that's exactly what i mean. >> exactly what i mean. >> it's exactly what i mean. where are. where you are. >> in the great scheme of >> you, in the great scheme of things, in the downstairs loo. >> i'm afraid that's about it. >> i'm afraid that's about it. >> that's it. >> that's about it. >> that's about it. >> along the front cover >> along with the front cover of private like everyone exactly >> you're right. it goes >> but you're right. it goes back i mean, the kingston, back to. i mean, the kingston, a big documentary as well, and i don't think. i think i'm right in prince william in saying that prince william and harry been and prince harry haven't been included in that documentary about which is about about him. um which is this that's out this the one that's going out tonight? this the one that's going out ton because a documentary >> because there's a documentary going out tonight. it's a year. the coronation. it's like behind the following the scenes cameras following them, oh,

them, i think so, i think, oh, wow. wow. >> w- @ saying that, i think >> right in saying that, i think that's on today it's that's on today and it's completely behind scenes and completely behind the scenes and it them being very it shows them being very affectionate because, i mean, harry his book, uh, spare harry in his book, uh, spare wrote that they weren't a touchy feely family. >> was no hugging, no >> no, there was no hugging, no kissing. think in this kissing. um, but i think in this he it is shown to charles he does. it is shown to charles to very huggy. certainly with to be very huggy. certainly with william and with the grandchildren. what grandchildren. do you know what i lovely. from, uh, >> lovely. the walk from, uh, the church sandringham the church in sandringham yesterday. the sandringham estate. it was lovely estate. i thought it was lovely that was holding hands that george was holding hands with phillips child. that with zara phillips child. that child. she's just gorgeous. >> the mary's mia. >> the mary's mia. >> mia. >> mia. >> she's just beautiful . and >> she's just beautiful. and then the hug that mike tindall gave prince george . yeah, that gave prince george. yeah, that is. that's what people really want to see because that is real life. >> it's real. it's family. it's very human. >> it's that human interest that we haven't often been able to see. yeah. >> and the photo obviously released by the prince william and princess kate of their three children, george, kate, george and charlotte. >> yeah . louis. >> yeah. louis. >> yeah. louis. >> um, thank you. yeah. >> louis. um, thank you. yeah. >> louis. um, thank you. yeah. >> you're welcome . i'm here all

>> you're welcome. i'm here all day . day. >> but that was very modern, wasn't it? it was like, sort of like literally t shirts, jeans, trainers. i mean, very modern. >> but it's not what christmas is about, though, dawn. i think that's very. oh i don't know. >> don't know. well we know >> i don't know. well we know yeah, exactly. know . what do yeah, exactly. we know. what do you think i'm inspired by the royal family yeah. >> that's line i'm sticking. >> oh, you spun that one, my love. >> yeah, exactly. yeah well done that. but what we make of that. but what did we make of talking to them? going to church at yesterday as they at sandringham yesterday as they have as you have done traditionally. as you say, claire. it was much more a family yeah it. family inclusive. yeah to it. so much so that prince andrew and sarah ferguson i know. >> right there that's >> right was there and that's the first time i think since 1991 or 2. >> is it is a long time very i mean it's very odd, especially with the column inches that came out about victoria's giuffre. >> um, a few days ago about prince andrew. so there's still issues there that i don't think any of us are particularly comfortable with. and yet to see fergie, who's come through

breast cancer. yeah. and she is still the mother of eugenie and the beatrice. um, and it's nice for them maybe to have their mum on board on site, but i think it's quite a huge move. i think. >> so what do you make of that, charlie? >> yeah, i think you're right. i think it was 1992, i think or three when she says something a long, long time. i mean, i was 2 or 3. you read this, it's not my, my, my history, but i said trailers weren't bad enough. >> i've gone on a few more now, so i'm not a huge, uh, um, i don't have huge knowledge about the history of the family. >> didn't that far, but >> didn't back that far, but i think just a reflection on think it's just a reflection on king charles how he wants to be more inclusive. it seems to me. and bringing family and bringing the family yesterday and bringing the family yesterdéand was there exactly. and andrew was there obviously, as well as well. you can pictures can see and beautiful pictures there. all sort of there. yeah. of them all sort of just gathering and just gathering outside and having look and having they look relaxed and they happy. they look happy. >> message that i've >> that's the message that i've got and which is so lovely . got and which is so lovely. instead of the vitriol that's coming from montecito, there coming out from montecito, there has that tension, isn't

has been that tension, isn't there, with. >> yeah, yeah , constantly. and, >> yeah, yeah, constantly. and, you know, the between him you know, the wars between him and his brother william and his father, obviously the king charles. them. you're charles. so to see them. you're absolutely to see them all absolutely right to see them all there. just enjoying absolutely right to see them all there was just enjoying absolutely right to see them all there was the just enjoying absolutely right to see them all there was the traditional'ing absolutely right to see them all there was the traditional family what was the traditional family get pre—christmas get together. pre—christmas i think element of think is the other element of the speech. >> you were going to >> if you if you were going to pick not pick holes or such, but analyse it possibly overanalyze it, you know, charles it, john is you know, charles was talking about as we were talking family how talking about family and how it's good to inclusive. and it's good to be inclusive. and that's obviously , andrew and that's why obviously, andrew and sarah ferguson were walking to church him. but do you church with him. but do you think there might have been, no matter how subtle, a little tiny dig there at harry and meghan? >> i hope not. i hope they can rise above that. and you know, king charles has got a mammoth task him. know , and task ahead of him. you know, and especially i think it's tougher for our society where for him now in our society where communication all over the communication is all over the place . it's 24 over seven. we've place. it's 24 over seven. we've got things called social media now, i don't think are now, which i don't think are helping anyone , be it the helping anyone, be it the president of the united states , president of the united states, be it the prime minister of the uk know, the head

uk or even, you know, the head of the royal family in the uk, prince charles, everything is forensically analysed and we're even talking about it now, you know, so it makes me just know it's not dawn. it's not no dawn, it's not dawn. it's not no dawn, it's not dawn. it's not no dawn, it's not because, you know, column inches are filled with stuff like this . you know, it's stuff like this. you know, it's not a history yet because it's not a history yet because it's not finished. we're still deaung not finished. we're still dealing with it in the present . dealing with it in the present. >> and there's no i think that's right. i think if i hope, i hope it's not a dig, but hopefully it could be. >> i just, you know, i'm >> ijust, you know, i'm a tabloid journalist. >> i'm going overanalyze >> i'm going to overanalyze everything. be honest with you. >> but no, you're absolutely right. you hope could be right. but you hope it could be an example if you've been an example of if you've been excluded some as excluded for some time as a family member. there is a way back, so there be back, so there could be something say to something in that to say to harry. look, you know, make up and the family. and get back to the family. >> we'd like to see. i >> what we'd like to see. i mean, i must admit, i am old enough. thanks, charlie. um, to have actually interviewed princess boys princess diana when the boys were very young and she were very, very young and she was and one thing was lovely. and the one thing i always remember her saying was the was proud the reason she was so proud of her because of the way

her boys was because of the way william looked after his little brother. goes, are brother. she goes, they are there. are for each there. they are there for each other. and goes, i always other. and she goes, i always heard haunts now. and heard and it haunts me now. and she i hope that they will she goes, i hope that they will always for one another. always be there for one another. and i think now of what has happened and all the bad blood thatis happened and all the bad blood that is now quite clearly between them and you think, i really hope that at one point they can overcome all this. but of course, i think a lot of people do think that. >> i think that because i think my children have got their great rocks for each other. yeah and, you know, the great dependence and around, they and if i weren't around, they i know would be fine. they'd know they would be fine. they'd be looked amongst be well looked after amongst themselves. but for any women in themselves. but for any women in the way that i think meghan has dnven the way that i think meghan has driven a wedge instead of trying the way that i think meghan has dribring wedge instead of trying the way that i think meghan has dribring theige instead of trying the way that i think meghan has dribring the familytead of trying the way that i think meghan has dribring the family togetherying to bring the family together because she felt she was bigger than the royal family, she felt she better than royal she was better than the royal family and i think she put herself above harry's role of duty and service because i think honestly , those two words aren't honestly, those two words aren't in that women's vocabulary. >> i'm actually going to play

devil's advocate here with meghan. i mean, man . and it's a meghan. i mean, man. and it's a bit yoko ono just to blame meghan for what happened. what do you reckon, charlie? >> well, i think there i mean, i think two things. i mean, first of all, you know, harry and william are two grown men. they're very men. they they're very proud men. they are, clearly, um, uh, are, uh, clearly, um, uh, they've a big falling out, they've had a big falling out, but be, i'm sure, big but they will be, i'm sure, big enough proud enough some enough and proud enough at some point to, make that point to, to to, make that reconciliation needs to reconciliation that needs to happen. sure that will happen. i'm sure that will happen. i'm sure that will happen because the happen because of the responsibility. and i think there will always that there will always be that brotherly attachment that william, when he becomes king harry obviously still be harry will obviously still be his brother and he need to his brother and he will need to support his in way. support his brother in that way. and, brothers will and, you know, the brothers will need rely on each other. i do need to rely on each other. i do think, um, uh, i do agree with claire to an extent that i think when difficult when when there are difficult when there difficulties there were clearly difficulties and having and harry was clearly having much difficulties with much a lot of difficulties with the royal family and his royal duties, i instead of there duties, i think instead of there being supportive, being that, uh, supportive, uh, nurturing environment wife. exactly. say no, come at

exactly. to say no, come on. at and make sacrifices in and you make sacrifices in relationships and yes, sure. how many sacrifices meghan was prepared to make. and thank you drove further drove that wedge even further than maybe just sort of than somebody maybe just sort of accepting it and trying to help her. >> and i think the turning point was when prince william said to harry early on, you know, just watch just, you know, calm watch it, just, you know, calm down a bit. >> take your time. yeah and i think that really ruffled harry's feathers. >> do think that's >> yeah, but do you think that's a fair thing for one brother to say? absolutely >> well, i think if you have all the and i'm a huge supporter of the and i'm a huge supporter of the monarchy, the royal family, but if you have all of these privileges and it's a hard it is a hard life, harder than many people think, because you're always in the public eye. but you do have a lot of and you do have a lot of responsibility. but you do have a of but you do have a lot of privilege as well. so i think the between, you know, the balance between, you know, accepting your responsibility, but tough. but also things will get tough. but exactly as you but you know, exactly as you just claire, if you know just said, claire, if you know someone who is outside of the family that comes in that maybe wants and shake things up

wants to try and shake things up or should be or thinks that they should be doing differently when doing things differently when it's sort done it's always been sort of done this way, when it does ruffle feathers, need kind of feathers, you do need to kind of know your place to know when to maybe, uh, ask something maybe, uh, ask for something different suggest a change different or to suggest a change or there. not or a tweak here and there. not full uh, rebranding. or a tweak here and there. not fulldo uh, rebranding. or a tweak here and there. not fulldo you uh, rebranding. or a tweak here and there. not fulldo you knowebranding. or a tweak here and there. not fulldo you know what?iing. >> do you know what? >> do you know what? >> i'm still astounded that people country as people in this country as friends say to friends don't actually say to their look, he's a their friends, look, he's a wrong'un. i really don't think you with him or her or you should be with him or her or whatever. people are very reticent actually reticent to actually say anything one anything like that to one another. really difficult conversations to have, though. but do all the time. but it's not. i do all the time. well, not all the time. >> can imagine, ran >> and you can imagine, ran yours for lunch. i don't want yours for lunch. i don't want you meeting the husband, dawn. >> a quiet word. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but a quiet word. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but i| quiet word. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but i mean word. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but i mean it ord. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but i mean it isi. you meeting the husband, dawn. >> but i mean it is a hard conversation. >> i mean, my sister, god bless her, is, you know, very, very happily married now. but, um, you know , 1 or 2 of her previous you know, 1 or 2 of her previous men, friends. you know, 1 or 2 of her previous men, friends . well, my men, friends. well, my ex—husband, there may be a problem . problem. >> i was really i mean, at the time when i was, i was going to get married, my parents and lots of people well, of people said, well, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you

should think about this before you you know, just don't you run it. you know, just don't do it. were right. it they do it. they were right. it they were absolutely right. had were absolutely right. but had they said then, you they not said that, then, you know, things that know, there was things that things that might been things that might just have been overlooked. things that might just have been oveyeah.�*d. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what's really, i think >> and what's really, i think difficult this is you difficult about this is that you talked about two boys and talked about the two boys and that for which that interview for diana, which i think is absolutely brilliant because that's they because that's when they were boys, and that's when they actually to be a family. actually seemed to be a family. yes. when go on to be yes. when they go on to be princes, they have own princes, they have their own estates, they their own estates, they have their own press they have their press offices, they have their own departments. >> a job, charlie? and. >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, you fancy that >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, no. you fancy that >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, no. that you fancy that >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, no. that was fancy that >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, no. that was michael at >> you want a job, charlie? and. no, no. that was michael gordon comparison. >> he was great. great boss, great man. we actually have to move on how. >> move on now. >> you're saying around >> ah, but you're saying around you're not going anywhere. well, are no. we've got more of you >> no. we've got more of you coming up. >> all right, but so. but we have to talk about the other big thing happened yesterday thing that happened yesterday and it was tv. >> so yesterday a >> uh, so yesterday it was a huge day for some of our television favourites. which television favourites. but which programs performed the best on the day of the year the most festive day of the year to bring us up to date on this one is the wonderful hayley palmer, who has all the

palmer, who has got all the gossip yesterday's big show. gossip on yesterday's big show. hayley, looking glamorous and gorgeous thank gorgeous as ever. thank you. making effort. unlike some making the effort. unlike some people we mention in the people we could mention in the studio the boy persuasion studio of the boy persuasion thatis studio of the boy persuasion that is . that is. >> i was in my dressing gown eating weetabix. wasn't eating my weetabix. it wasn't very glamorous. hahaha. so hayley , what was the best hayley, what was the best performing show of the day yesterday ? yesterday? >> well, do you know what i actually don't have the results anywhere for um, what was the best? >> but i do have the betting odds and i do kind of have my own kind of spin on this. so, um, obviously the king's speech, uh, was the highest, followed by doctor who , which i know. dawn, doctor who, which i know. dawn, you're a fan of doctor who, you're a huge fan of doctor who, so you'll be pleased so i know you'll be pleased about uh, call the midwife about that. uh, call the midwife was show, and strictly was a massive show, and strictly come dancing . i don't know if come dancing. i don't know if you managed watch it or you managed to watch it or people did home, i people did at home, but i thought it absolutely thought it was absolutely spectacular. and jamie borthwick from eastenders won with a quickstep, is always a quickstep, which is always a complete crowd pleaser. i mean, actually in strictly they used to bring back the kind of best contestants, but now they just have but but

have fresh contestants. but but it's something that's got to be done on christmas day, right? >> and i love >> oh no. absolutely and i love the new doctor who. i know it's had lots of complaints, etc. etc. i think, i think it etc. um, but i think, i think it worked very well. it's lively. it was fun. it was full of action and it wasn't too full of lectures. and we had some quite good monsters in it. i thought, now, the one thing i'm not a big fan of is soaps. hayley. oh go on eastenders for someone die or something because the drama i actually couldn't sleep last night because i had to watch eastenders twice . eastenders twice. >> i just couldn't believe the ending . and dean, big shout out ending. and dean, big shout out to dean, who's the producer? do not know. >> spoiler no spoiler. hayley. no don't. but he did. >> good prediction. he nearly got it right, but he didn't quite get it right. let's just say if you haven't seen it, please it. even if please go and watch it. even if you watch eastenders, if you don't watch eastenders, if you don't watch eastenders, if you you will not you tune in, you will not believe honestly and do you believe it. honestly and do you know what i love about it? sometimes they build it up because this has been building up february think, up since february and you think, oh going

oh yeah, it's going to be a complete letdown. no no no no. coronation street was let coronation street was a let down. eastenders. they down. eastenders. yes they smashed well to the smashed it. well done to the producers . producers. >> they built up >> hold on. they built up a storyline for nine months. yes yes, but worry , you can yes, but don't worry, you can still tune in now. >> you could still go in today and watch it on catch up. >> do it. okay, okay. >> do it. okay, okay. >> and let's talk about ghosts, shall we? quickly i think it was the last episode of ghosts the very last episode of ghosts yesterday, i did yesterday, which i think i did watch i quite enjoyed it, watch it. i quite enjoyed it, quite poignant. did you. yeah. no i wasn't into that. no no no, i wasn't into that. >> i'm afraid my love. but i did, um, watch. i was watching only horses. i was only fools and horses. i was watching all the comedy shows like, more i love a like, that's more me. i love a little comedy. so hayley, unfortunately, we're unfortunately, hayley, we're running unfortunately, hayley, we're run unfortunately. also, >> unfortunately. also, my lovely, . lovely, um. >> oh, thank you very much. >> oh, thank you very much. >> that's hayley palmer. uh we're back very soon. uh, don't go

away - - away . good away. good morning. happy boxing day. it's 10 am. on tuesday, the 26th of december. and merry christmas as well. still, this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me. dawn neesom and a great show coming up, a bargain hunters are set to make this the biggest boxing day in four years. despite the cost of living crisis, shoppers are expected to spend an average of £253 each, and it was officially a white christmas for 2023. as get this as parts of northern scotland, the very high bits had

a high dusting of snow. okay, now as many begin to travel home after celebrating. so the met office has issued a yellow weather warnings for ice , rain weather warnings for ice, rain and wind for today and tomorrow . and wind for today and tomorrow. so. and coming up, we're getting in—depth analysis of king charles's christmas speech, where he pays tribute to a selfless army of volunteers in a heartfelt christmas address and tens of thousands are expected to meet at boxing day hunts across the uk , often attended by across the uk, often attended by anti—hunting protesters and this yearis anti—hunting protesters and this year is predicted to be no different at. all. but this is not about me. it's about you. what you think. so let us know all your thoughts on our talking points today. email at gbviews@gbnews.com. leave your name and where you're watching from or listening from. but first here is your news

headunes but first here is your news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thank you. dawn good morning. it's 10:01. >> thank you. dawn good morning. it's10:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room . labour is in the gb news room. labour is considering plans to process asylum seekers claims overseas, according to a report in the times . shadow home secretary times. shadow home secretary yvette cooper and shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock have reportedly been speaking to asylum experts to draw up an alternative way to stop migrants crossing the channelin stop migrants crossing the channel in small boats . the plan channel in small boats. the plan would see asylum seekers have their claims processed in a second country, with successful applicants allowed to enter the uk. labour leader sir keir starmer has previously dismissed the government's rwanda scheme as a gimmick . the government's rwanda scheme as a gimmick. tory mp mike freer tells gb news his constituency offices remain a crime scene as police investigate a suspected arson attack . fire crews were arson attack. fire crews were called to the building in north london on christmas eve after it was partially damaged by the

blaze . the mp told gb news blaze. the mp told gb news police are examining cctv footage and he does not yet know when the offices will be released back to him . no one was released back to him. no one was in the building at the time of the incident . marks and the incident. marks and spencer's and john lewis are among major retailers who have opted to remain closed this boxing day. traditionally the day after christmas is one of the busiest shopping high street days of the year, with this year expected to be the biggest in five years. wickes pets at home and home bargains , as well as and home bargains, as well as major supermarkets aldi , iceland major supermarkets aldi, iceland and the majority of waitrose stores will not open today . more stores will not open today. more than three quarters of people are expected to do the majority of shopping online, of their shopping online, instead , ceo of british instead, ceo of british retailer's andrew goodacre says businesses will be hoping people spend more . spend more. >> it has been such a difficult year for so many, as i said, and now is the time to eke out every last penny we can from shoppers out there, people who can afford

hopefully to spend that little bit more. um, at this time of yean bit more. um, at this time of year, uh, and, and i think every business will be looking to do that. and i think you know, fingers crossed every business succeeds in what they want to do and what they want to achieve in the next seven days. >> labour warned to >> labour has been warned to stay traditional stay away from traditional boxing day. fox hunt parades ahead of the next general election. countryside campaigners have told the party to end its running attack on rural communities , as they say rural communities, as they say sir keir starmer risks igniting a toxic culture war if his party repeats past attacks on rural life . fox hunting was banned in life. fox hunting was banned in england and wales in 2004. however labour has vowed to crack down on all hunts countryside alliance chief executive tim bonner says if sir keir starmer chooses to tighten legislation further , there will legislation further, there will be a fight . be a fight. >> and this really isn't about foxes in this debate. never really has been. it's about people and it's about the fact that there are elements of the animal rights movement and elements of the of the political

left. the labour party, who cannot the fact that cannot cope with the fact that hunt still exists, they are hunt still exists, that they are still meeting today, that tens of thousands of people will be going support them. um, going out to support them. um, so i think it was bizarre, frankly, that we're that we're really again about frankly, that we're that we're really back again about frankly, that we're that we're really back legislateiout frankly, that we're that we're really back legislate further going back to legislate further on this issue, but have no doubt if they do, there'll be a fight. >> charities have warned more than 1 million of the uk's most vulnerable adults will be living in dickensian cold and damp in a dickensian cold and damp home christmas period. home this christmas period. households endured another households have endured another year of energy bill misery amid the ongoing effects of the pandemic and russias invasion of ukraine this year has seen record high levels of people in debt to their energy supplier. thats according to the director of energy at citizens advice, gillian cooper. it comes as ofgem announces the energy price cap will rise again to just over £1,900 from the 1st of january, and queen camilla has hosted an afternoon tea at windsor castle for a girl with a brain tumour.

the little girl, for a girl with a brain tumour. the little girl , who for a girl with a brain tumour. the little girl, who has for a girl with a brain tumour. the little girl , who has spent the little girl, who has spent most of her life on chemotherapy , she sang a christmas song and gave the queen a handmade ring when she was invited. olivia taylor has a brain tumour which has left her blind, but she leapt up to say hello your majesty, as she met queen camilla. the seven year old also tried her very first cup of tea, which was poured by the queen. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now its back to dawn . back to dawn. >> thank you sophia and welcome back. right, let's have a look at what youve been saying at home. if you please. keep it clean at least. and if you're going to have a go at me, at least say something nice as well to balance it out. right. but lots of you are getting in touch about royals. helen says about the royals. um, helen says good helen. thank you good morning, helen. thank you for um, charles says good morning, helen. thank you for take um, charles says good morning, helen. thank you for take ileafcharles says good morning, helen. thank you for take ileaf from as says good morning, helen. thank you for take ileaf from the ays good morning, helen. thank you for take ileaf from the late

should take a leaf from the late queen's and stay of queen's book and stay out of politics. six okay, fair point. it that political, though it was that political, though i have to uh, meanwhile, have to admit. uh, meanwhile, carol, that name. good carol, i love that name. good morning. carol. thank you for watching. well. the king watching. as well. uh, the king needs and them needs to step in and save them from having to close due to no funds. what? having close? funds. what? having to close? i'm sure what you're i'm not quite sure what you're referring there carol. referring to. there carol. um, meanwhile , david doesn't agree meanwhile, david doesn't agree and says king charles's vision is not his vision of the uk and bernard. good morning, bernard . bernard. good morning, bernard. um, okay. you say what meghan has done to the royal family only happened because harry let it. so he's equally to blame. i'm with you on that one, bernard. i don't subscribe to that yoko ono peer your thought process where always the process where it's always the woman's fault. it's a grown man who be to stand on who should be able to stand on his own two feet. although i must. megan is quite formidable, isn't keeping must. megan is quite formidable, isnthe keeping must. megan is quite formidable, isnthe royal keeping must. megan is quite formidable, isnthe royal subject. keeping must. megan is quite formidable, isnthe royal subject. beenping on the royal subject. been a busy year for the royal family, as king charles embraces his first year of the reign. uh, one of the biggest royal events this year coronation year was the king's coronation in may. people from across the world gathered here in london to

witness the big day in british history . gb news georgia pierce history. gb news georgia pierce looks back at that extraordinary day saturday 6th of may. >> king charles the third was crowned in a historic ceremony at westminster abbey. first cemented in british tradition in 1066, the event was given a modern twist by the king as the vip guest. list of world leaders and crowned princes were for the first time joined by community heroes difference to heroes who make a difference to people's . 20 million people's lives. 20 million britons in their britons tuned in to their television and thousands television sets, and thousands more streets of the more lined the streets of the capital new and capital as their new king and queen for ceremony . queen prepared for the ceremony. eight months since the passing of mother, queen elizabeth eight months since the passing of the mother, queen elizabeth eight months since the passing of the world r, queen elizabeth eight months since the passing of the world witnessedlizabeth eight months since the passing of the world witnessed a abeth eight months since the passing of the world witnessed a new1 ii, the world witnessed a new monarch following footsteps. monarch following her footsteps. after longest after 70 years, the longest reign history, the reign in british history, the royal family as well as tv royalty, took seats in the royal family as well as tv royaltyas)ok seats in the royal family as well as tv royaltyas they seats in the royal family as well as tv royaltyas they eagerly s in the royal family as well as tv royaltyas they eagerly awaited abbey as they eagerly awaited king charles and queen camilla to arrive in the iconic diamond jubilee harry jubilee state coach prince harry also made an appearance to support his after support his father after stepping down as a working royal. flew alone, leaving royal. he flew alone, leaving wife and children wife meghan markle and children archie at home in archie and lilibet at home in california . the duke of sussex

california. the duke of sussex donned special robes or donned no special robes or uniform, wore his military uniform, but wore his military medals pride . the medals with pride. the archbishop led archbishop of canterbury led the religious service as his majesty was presented people and was presented to the people and swore to govern the swore an oath to govern the united kingdom great britain united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. was and northern ireland. he was then sovereign's apta then handed the sovereign's apta with the rod of equity and with cross the rod of equity and mercy, the most mercy, and finally the most important saint edward's important of all, saint edward's crown wales, heir crown, the prince of wales, heir to throne, pledged to the throne, pledged his allegiance king with allegiance to the king with a kiss on his father's cheek. king charles's consort, who has been faithfully for faithfully by his side for decades, crowned decades, was crowned and anointed new queen. anointed as britain's new queen. leaving the abbey after the ceremony , king charles and queen ceremony, king charles and queen camilla of estates as camilla wore robes of estates as the procession saw the coronation procession saw the coronation procession saw the number of military the largest number of military personnel since winston churchill's as the churchill's funeral. as the crowds cheered for their reigning . the third reigning monarch. the third carolean era had well and truly begun. georgia pierce . gb news. begun. georgia pierce. gb news. >> uh, now, one boxing day tradition is the meeting of hunts across the country . see, hunts across the country. see, the practice is controversial and often brings clashes between organisers and animal welfare

groups. well, this year it's no different where campaigners have tried to stop the hunt. meeting by hiring the main street for a wheelbarrow race. um, join now to explain more about what's going on here by our reporter, jeff moody. good morning . jeff, jeff moody. good morning. jeff, thank you very much for joining us. this morning. so what's going on where you are ? well the going on where you are? well the hunt came past about ten minutes ago. >> it really was a sight. all of the horses and the and the hounds and the bugle and the tallyho and all the rest of it. and plenty of crowd is lining the streets here. um, most people here in support of the hunt, but there is a very vocal group of people that are against the hunt. lots of protesters , the hunt. lots of protesters, um, as often seems to happen in protests these days , many of the protests these days, many of the protesters were in balaclavas that were shouting a certain amount of abuse at the crowds, not just at the fox hunting element of it, but calling people ignorant, that sort of thing . and there was a bit of

thing. and there was a bit of a punch up here about ten minutes ago. i don't know, i haven't heard whether arrests, but heard whether the arrests, but they have done they could well have done because was certainly because there was certainly a bit punch right here. bit of a punch up right here. it's amazing, isn't it, that emotions are still running so high on this issue 20 years after it was supposedly resolved. it was 20 years ago when the countryside alliance um , uh, fought a robust campaign against tony blair's new labour that had just swept to power new laboun that had just swept to power new labour, new britain . and one of labour, new britain. and one of the first things he did was to introduce this fox hunting ban to three years later, um, although so tempers have cooled and a lot of ways, for instance, the countryside alliance are now admitting, well, you know, they'd campaign and all that time ago saying that rural, the rural way of life was under threat and that they'd have to put their bloodhounds down. put all their bloodhounds down. et cetera. et cetera. that et cetera. et cetera. and that hadnt et cetera. et cetera. and that hadn't happened. they they hadn't happened. they said they very to very successfully managed to work their way through the ban and find a way to survive that ban. and tony blair in his

dotage, has actually said that he regrets what he did , too. he he regrets what he did, too. he regrets introducing that ban, but they're still is that whole strength of feeling. and of course , for the countryside course, for the countryside alliance, they're looking at the corner of their eyes at the prospect of another labour government 20 years after the ban . and we're hearing that ban. and we're hearing that there might be rumblings from labour that they will now try to close some of the loophole in the ban and really enforce this. elements of the ban . well, elements of the ban. well, earlier on, i spoke to warren marshall from the alliance from the southdown and eridge hunt . the southdown and eridge hunt. um, he talked a little bit about how he felt about a possible labour government and what that could mean for , for fox hunting . could mean for, for fox hunting. >> just recently, they've been warned by their own lord mandelson that, um , it would be mandelson that, um, it would be wrong if they want rural votes , wrong if they want rural votes, um, as they will need at the next general election to gain a majority , uh, to pick a fight

majority, uh, to pick a fight that they really don't need to fight . fight. >> and the anti—hunt has organised a wheelbarrow race to take place at the same time of the hunt, which they thought might distract from the hunt and stop the hunt from happening. well, they the hunt an well, they moved the hunt an hour earlier, the hour earlier, and the wheelbarrow to wheelbarrow has had to be cancelled because they couldn't guarantee safety. guarantee everybody's safety. with the with all the horses and the hounds all the crowds. on hounds and all the crowds. so on this particular occasion today, the . won the hunt. won >> thank you very much . that's >> thank you very much. that's jeff moody, our reporter there. on the biggest day for hunting in the calendar, isn't it? now we are going to talk , i think, we are going to talk, i think, to a nigel farage who is at a huntin to a nigel farage who is at a hunt in chiddingstone castle in kent. uh, good morning, nigel. thank you very much for joining us this morning. good morning. um so you are actually hunting at a hunt today. can you tell us what kind of hunt this is exactly? >> i can't hear her. >> hello . i think.

>> i can't hear her. >> hello . i think . okay, i think >> hello. i think. okay, i think we're having our, um, sound problems there with nigel. hopefully, we'll be able to come back to him very soon. um, still to come, we will be talking about the historic boxing day sporting events with broadcaster aidan magee. this is britain's newsroom on gb on boxing newsroom on gb news on boxing day. don't go far

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news who's. >> good morning. it is news who's. >> good morning . it is 1017 and >> good morning. it is 1017 and actually you don't care . it's actually you don't care. it's boxing day. why would you care? you shouldn't care. and this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me. dawn neesom. now it's a huge day for sport, isn't it? i love my sport . thankfully my love my sport. thankfully my team west ham aren't playing today, but a fair few actually not a few are. um, not a main. ah. um um, not every team is playing today. obviously but joining me now to go through all this is our wonderful, very own aidan magee who's going to talk all things sport, not just football, but a gigs coming up as well. my dad love the gigs. right. but let's talk with football obviously because it's a big day in the football fixture list. absolutely. >> the biggest game, the >> i think the biggest game, the standout fixture of the day unquestionably 8:00 unquestionably tonight, 8:00 at old trafford manchester united versus aston villa. we've been reporting the last day or so reporting in the last day or so about sir james radcliffe's partial of manchester partial takeover of manchester united, crucially , from united, 25. but crucially, from a fans point of view, that 25% gives two seats on the board gives him two seats on the board . it also gives him complete control over sporting matters at

the club, hiring and firing of managers , signing the players, managers, signing the players, recruitment, etc. so that's going to be sorry. >> forgive me. how does that work if i've only got 25, why does he have say over the whole managerial? who does what? >> because i don't that >> because i don't think that was that the was the sphere that that the glazers wanted to continue doing. taken the only doing. they've taken the only flak get as a football club flak you get as a football club owner goes on flak you get as a football club ow the goes on flak you get as a football club ow the pitch. goes on flak you get as a football club ow the pitch. if goes on flak you get as a football club owthe pitch. if you're goes on flak you get as a football club owthe pitch. if you're able goes on flak you get as a football club owthe pitch. if you're able to »es on on the pitch. if you're able to keep hold of 75% of the club, you can enjoy the profits that come from that manchester united is an enormous club. it makes money. cash cow. money. it's a cash cow. irrespective it's irrespective of whether it's successful super successful or not. the super league not be too far away, league may not be too far away, judging by what we saw last week and the verdict in the ecj. so if the comes their and if the flak comes their way and they're say for the they're able to say for the first since they bought it first time since they bought it in in 2005, by way, they in in 2005, by the way, they bought whole thing for bought it the whole thing for £790 million. ratcliffe is buying it for well over buying a 25% of it for well over a billion. so that just shows you profitable this club you how profitable this club has been number of years. and been over a number of years. and as i say, that was a pretty wise investment, it? though investment, wasn't it? though it was. haven't a thing. was. they haven't won a thing. they haven't won a major trophy

since. since 2013, notwithstanding the europa league, back in 20 league, of course, back in 20 2017. so flak comes their 2017. so if the flak comes their way, if they're able to say, well, know, it's well, actually, you know, it's actually bloke who's in actually the new bloke who's in in control of football. so that's department. have a go that's his department. have a go at the at him. and they retain the profitable side of the business. that's perfect and that's perfect for them. and that's didn't that's probably why they didn't want what want the full sale. also, what was you know, this was interesting, you know, this hole roof old trafford hole in the roof at old trafford and all the infrastructure issues they've had at the stadium and it's fallen stadium and how it's fallen behind stadiums like stadium and how it's fallen behir ham stadiums like stadium and how it's fallen behir ham spurs adiums like stadium and how it's fallen behir ham spurs etc.�*ns like stadium and how it's fallen behir ham spurs etc. um,ke west ham and spurs etc. um, there was actually a central funding pot for the in the european league, which european super league, which actually to actually gives them grants to improve the stadium. so they were just hanging on a multi—billion pound organisation like hanging on for like that were hanging on for grants the roof at old grants to mend the roof at old trafford. it beggars belief, doesn't belief. >> it does beggar belief. >> it does beggar belief. >> if they tonight, i think >> if they lose tonight, i think they could. they then owners they could. they then the owners may make a statement. may want to make a statement. dawn, i don't and i don't think erik last long. erik ten hag will last too long. i was going to say he's smart money. >> on the first manager to be sacked the i would sacked in the new year i would say so, i don't want to. say so, yeah, i don't want to. >> i don't want to say that, but i've seen quite lot

i've seen them quite a lot recently. man uh, at recently. man united uh, at home, particularly old trafford, and look good. home, particularly old trafford, ancdoes look good. home, particularly old trafford, ancdoes not look good. home, particularly old trafford, ancdoes not lo> it's a team game. it's a team game. team has to. the best game. the team has to. the best teams are great, worth more teams are great, are worth more than their parts. and than the sum of their parts. and i as well i saw that west ham game as well that at. they were that you were at. they were absolutely they've lost absolutely awful. they've lost more a calendar year more games in a calendar year i think since going back 1930, think since going back to 1930, beforeincredible. isn't think since going back to 1930, beforeincredible.|sn't that wow, incredible. isn't it? that is manchester united. >> w- e1“.- e not that >> yeah okay. and it's not that not team is not every not every team is playing premiership playing down the premiership normally. playing down the premiership norwell'. playing down the premiership norwell your your own own. >> well your your own your own. west arsenal think thursday. arsenal i think that's a one a 8:15. uh kick off. but one interesting match picked interesting match today i picked out sheffield versus out sheffield united versus luton. the luton. we're going to see the first referee. sam luton. we're going to see the first for referee. sam luton. we're going to see the first for refe first sam luton. we're going to see the first for refe first s'in 15 allison for the first time in 15 years who years since uriah renee who i knew actually i did knew quite well actually i did a few him back few shoots with him back in the day. interesting sam day. interesting one. sam allison because again, he's done it way. non—league it the hard way. ex non—league footballer with footballer also had a spell with swindon was the swindon town as well. was on the books there. he's exactly the profile coming profile i want to see coming into in terms of

into the game in terms of officials, come officials, because he's come from the route, don't from the playing route, we don't see want to see enough of that. i want to see. graduate see. i want to see graduate academy coming into academy rejects coming into refereeing. say to them, okay, you it the you didn't quite make it in the premier league or the championship but championship or whatever, but you is so you know, the standard is so high, why don't stay in the high, why don't you stay in the game? why don't you be an official? good official? it gives you a good living. to be among all living. you get to be among all the footballers, and you get to apply your knowledge acquired from play from being in the field of play and and and suffering the tackles and getting the red cards and yellow cards, nuances cards, understanding the nuances of the play and maybe adding some value as an official so we can don't more can see so why why don't more players do it? >> would make sense , but >> it it would make sense, but it does. >> i've always felt that knowing a few referees, i do, i felt that they've it little that they've made it a little bit shop . oh really? bit of a closed shop. oh really? yeah. a bit like i don't yeah. it's a bit like i don't want compare them the want to compare them to the freemasons, there's freemasons, but there's a very difficult people to difficult group of people to penetrate and get to know. there aren't journalists who aren't many journalists who would have referee contacts unless they're ex referees. they're enclosed , enclosed they're very enclosed, enclosed and get into the inner sanctum is very, difficult. and is very, very difficult. and i can understand why they want to protect their own. they to protect their own. they want to maybe of ex players. so we're movement of ex players. so we're seeing a little bit more. >> so has it gone down. we

>> so how has it gone down. we had first female official at had the first female official at a referee at a a premiership referee at a premiership match the other day . premiership match the other day. >> well the best, the best comp element i can play, i can play rebecca welch dawn is that there wasn't saturation of coverage in the day. after you're a huge football like you know football fan like me, you know that a referee is one that that a good referee is one that goes unnoticed. delivered goes unnoticed. she delivered three yellow cards, marco silva said it was a normal performance. fulham manager, said it was a normal perfornlosing fulham manager, said it was a normal perfornlosing . fulham manager, said it was a normal perfornlosing . herulham manager, said it was a normal perfornlosing . he preferredanager, said it was a normal perfornlosing . he preferred toager, he was losing. he preferred to concentrate fact his concentrate on the fact that his team very and team didn't play very well and that, it should be exactly. >> you don't notice it's a long time coming as dawn. time coming as well, dawn. >> i mean, i remember remember >> i mean, i remember i remember sian massey, i remember amy rayner line rayner on the running the line back two back in, uh, back in two thousand mean, how thousand and seven. i mean, how how so long to get to how it took so long to get to this i'll never know. this point, i'll never know. yeah, seeing females >> especially seeing as females in have had lot in football have had a lot of criticism recently. certainly from one particularly joey barton wasn't it. yeah. ex qpr captain. yeah. and that's captain. yes yeah. and that's your team and you're off to i'm off to watch off to millwall today to watch rangers hopefully a >> yeah. hopefully we got a result and i'm result there last season and i'm hoping another one. we don't hoping for another one. we don't tend that well tend to travel there that well but be travelling tend to travel there that well bustarlyn. be travelling tend to travel there that well bu starlyn. luck travelling tend to travel there that well bu starlyn. luck tra a elling tend to travel there that well bu starlyn. luck tra a taxi ] tend to travel there that well bu starlyn. luck traa taxi . in starlyn. good luck in a taxi. >> but not about >> but it's not all about football is not? football today, is it? not? big day racing. day

day for horse racing. big day for racing. for horse racing. >> day for jump racing. >> uh, big day forjump racing. specifically, meetings, specifically, eight meetings, including those at fontwell park, . the big one park, market rasen. the big one as well the king george, the sixth chase at kempton at 230. i've put my i haven't put my money on it really, so i'm not much of a gambler, but brave man's game 9 to 4. last year's winner hasn't quite managed to replicate year , replicate the form this year, i'm insiders on social i'm told by insiders on social media. people i don't know, basically allaho at 13 to 8, trained by willie mullins, the irish champ trainer, would also be a good bet. i must also mention, because i do get the odd message from the odd cabinet minister here there, esther minister here and there, esther mcvey touch in the mcvey has been in touch in the last hour and she's me last hour and she's told me about is about second glance, which is her owned in a syndicate her horse owned in a syndicate with with her husband , philip with with her husband, philip davies. of course, late of this, of parish golden glance, of this parish golden glance, the aintree, 25 to the 1155 at aintree, 25 to 1 shot and philip said to me that i should get a pound on it each way. right. i don't listen to phil you know. phil too much. you know. >> sort of like some >> but is that sort of like some kind of insider dealing kind of insider trader dealing thing mean , thing going on there? i mean,

no, not. no, certainly not. >> certainly everyone. anyone. >> w- wi- >> i'm joking. all right. so i'm joking now. >> i don't want to stay on the phone. >> what's the horse called there? you on now there? you see on screen now it's glance. it's called golden glance. >> yeah. 1155 >> golden glance and yeah. 1155 today at aintree, 25 to 1. uh, i don't i don't want to see phil succeed at anything. so i really hope he doesn't win. >> that's not very nice. >> that's not very nice. >> no. phil and phil and >> no, no, no. phil and phil and i have love hate i just have this love hate relationship, know , we've relationship, you know, we've just been going on for long relationship, you know, we've just bokay?»ing on for long time, okay? >> and any other sport we need to mention today. >> well, necessarily >> uh, well, not necessarily today, but, i mean, i'm interested in anthony joshua, i mean, yeah, he fulfilled mean, he. yeah, he fulfilled his part saturday. part of the bargain on saturday. look, quite convincing for the first many first time in a many, many years, actually. dawn he years, actually. dawn and he beat otto. well not an elite level sweden, level heavyweight from sweden, but finish off inside but he did finish him off inside five quid pro five rounds. now, the quid pro quo unfortunately quo for that, unfortunately for anthony, i must admit, anthony, was that i must admit, actually i think nine years ago today spending christmas today i was spending christmas day anthony that's day with anthony joshua. that's just in. just a thought that popped in. >> thought. >> now there's a thought. >> now there's a thought. >> could cope with that. >> yeah. you could. am allowed >> yeah. you could. am i allowed to yeah, to objectify him on there? yeah, probably not. to objectify him on there? yeah, pro no. y not. >> no. >> no. >> i'm too old to fight me though, on. though, dawn. okay. steady on. >> , do that as well. >> yeah you can, i know i'll let

you off. >> e p“ >> so i'm not going to though. >> so i'm not going to though. >> so i'm not going to though. >> so it was quite crucial that deontay wilder won his fight against, against joseph parker on the same card in saudi on saturday. that didn't happen. there a big there was going to be a big money saudi between money fight in saudi between those because lost. those two, because wilder lost. he'll to go. he'll probably now have to go. the route and go up against the ibf route and go up against filip hrgovic, talented filip hrgovic, a very talented croatian master, ninth in saudi, 100 million. isn't it amazing how boxers never get criticised for plying their trade into hat saudi tens of saudi and earning tens of millions of pounds? but footballers do. >> this is the thing i mean. but i look , i love i mean boxing look, i love boxing, okay? but it's all about the money, isn't it? i know to a certain extent it always has been business. >> dawn. >> dawn. >> yeah, i know , but it's like >> yeah, i know, but it's like it's kind . of ruined it a bit, it's kind. of ruined it a bit, don't you think? >> i'll tell you what. >> i'll tell you what. >> i'll tell you. the scheduling ruins it because there's a saudi season. don't season. you know, they don't host year and host fights all year round. and so they can so boxers wait until they can box saudi. so for most of box in saudi. and so for most of the don't the fights the year we don't see the fights we shores. we want to see on these shores. i remember last really i can't remember the last really big that happened at big fight that happened at

wembley. gone on wembley. we've seen, um, gone on our time, you know, exactly an hour that i love watching hour time that i love watching boxing because hour time that i love watching box always because hour time that i love watching box always like because hour time that i love watching box always like at because hour time that i love watching box always like at 3:003cause hour time that i love watching box always like at 3:00 in|use hour time that i love watching box always like at 3:00 in the it's always like at 3:00 in the morning, and i'll try and be me. i've got a report on it, and i've got a report on it, and i've at in the i've got up at 3:00 in the morning and i'm coming all the very kind offer. >> want to try being >> but i don't want to try being you. i'll try being you. okay um, i'll try being anthony that'd anthony joshua. yeah, that'd be rather anthony joshua. yeah, that'd be ratiyeah. £100 million in the >> yeah. so £100 million in the bank. got bank. he's got so. >> you are to off the >> okay, so you are to off the milwaukee. i'm off to milwaukee to watch qpr player kick to watch qpr player 1:00, kick off hospitality . off corporate hospitality. >> i'm going because >> i'm going easy because obviously how many championship games today . obviously how many championship games today. it's games are there today. it's quite i quite championship games. i think 11 in think there are about 11 in total. i mean there's total. so boxing i mean there's five i think let me count them up. >> five in the i've asked you question. >> you don't know the answer to. >> you don't know the answer to. >> yes. >> yes. >> i know of » ves- — >>-i know of course » yes.— >>-i know of course i >> yes. >> i know of course i pride >> no, i know of course i pride myself on this. >> way. >> by the way. >> by the way. >> course i do the >> of course i do know the answer it's premier answer to it. it's five premier league said league games today. you said arsenal be playing league games today. you said arsenalwest be playing league games today. you said arsenalwest ham be playing league games today. you said arsenalwest ham lthursday. against west ham on thursday. we've well. we've got some tomorrow as well. yeah. 530. yeah. liverpool action at 530. i should there should have said as well there is a permutation that see is a permutation that would see villa they villa go top tonight. if they win they don't win at old trafford they don't win at old trafford they don't win often, although win there very often, although it's is the win there very often, although it's thing is the win there very often, although it's thing isn't is the win there very often, although it's thing isn't it.is the weird thing isn't it. >> at i mean obviously

>> you look at i mean obviously i've supported ham for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very,pported ham for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very, very ed ham for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very, very long ham for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very, very long time.im for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very, very long time. but for >> you look at i mean obviously i"very, very long time. but you»r a very, very long time. but you look the look at the top of the premiership now it's like look at the top of the premiercould ow it's like look at the top of the premiercould ow anywhere ke look at the top of the premiercould ow anywhere these anyone could be anywhere these days , couldn't they. days, couldn't they. >> could i mean, >> well they could i mean, i think liverpool look pretty good. draw, they good. i mean they draw, they drew the two home games. i drew the last two home games. i think nil. think it was man united nil nil. and obviously arsenal the other day against they were day against a11 when they were well . so pgmol well the pgmol. so the pgmol issued a statement apologising once again for an infringement that went against liverpool martin odegaard's handball. that should have seen them awarded a penalty. why do they keep coming out this out and making apologies? this makes it? >> know what? i guess it's a >> you know what? i guess it's a running that running joke, isn't it? that women the fc women never understand the fc offside rule and okay, all my life i've known the offside rule. suddenly i've got to this grand old age and i have not got a what qualifies a clue what qualifies as offside. no . offside. oh, no. >> does join the club ? >> does anybody join the club? but i mean, every time you apologise, i mean, it's like, you uke apologise, i mean, it's like, you like being a you know, it's like being in a relationship apologise relationship if you apologise every it you every five minutes, it makes you sound wrong sound like you're in the wrong one. sometimes one. even even though sometimes you're to you're not something you want to tell us here. >> no, something not >> no, no, no. something not not right know, >> but it's like, you know, you can't goal at

can't even celebrate a goal at football now. >> it's like, know , you >> it's like, you know, you know, west ham know, i used to follow west ham home still home. home in a way. still go home. >> that chelsea >> that game that spurs chelsea game weeks on game about six weeks ago on a monday white hart lane, monday night at white hart lane, everyone said, oh, it's a magnificent game of football. never it. never seen anything like it. i was and was was inside the stadium and i was having seven for having to wait seven minutes for every happened. every decision that happened. i mean, woman mean, someone had some woman asking next where i was asking me next to me where i was going this you going on holiday this year. you know, that know, imagine it's that it's like hairdresser's isn't like a hairdresser's now, isn't it ? it? >> oh, right. okay. well, i'll wait var decision. wait for this var decision. >> those jumbotron >> one of those jumbotron screens lane screens at white hart lane is the tennis court. the size of a tennis court. >> is it really? yeah. >> is it really? yeah. >> another detail. >> that was another detail. the woman told me when she. after she'd where she'd asked me where i was. >> it's that football >> so it's that bad at football now, you know, score goal, >> so it's that bad at football nowjump know, score goal, >> so it's that bad at football nowjump kno and score goal, >> so it's that bad at football nowjump kno and you :ore goal, >> so it's that bad at football nowjump kno and you celebrateil, you jump up and you celebrate and no , let's just pay and you go, no, let's just pay a grand for season. and you go, no, let's just pay a gra are or season. and you go, no, let's just pay a gra are you season. and you go, no, let's just pay a gra are you getting up to get >> are you getting up to get stuck me? stuck next to me? >> getting for it. >> really, really, really be a short stop. but had also short stop. but we had also the first eve as first game on christmas eve as well, you? yeah. well, didn't you? yeah. >> against, uh, chelsea. >> wolves against, uh, chelsea. again the again a problem with the scheduling doesn't scheduling. it doesn't happen often. be honest. i often. dawn let's be honest. i mean i think the last one was 1995 three 1995 when man united lost three one to so . we don't see one to leeds. so. we don't see it often. it was a 1:00 kick off. um pip up. she made the

point earlier on in the newcastle v nottingham forest game. nottingham forest having to today to go to newcastle today for a 1230 kick off, but she said actually you know, they'll probably stadium probably be out of the stadium by probably hit by 3:00. they can probably hit the can't the big market tonight can't they. yeah. they. those forest fans. yeah. >> true. >> no this is true. >> no this is true. >> scheduling mean, >> but the scheduling i mean, look did they look chelsea did what they could. three could. they laid on three coaches. the end coaches. and so it's not the end of the premier of the world. and the premier league that league already announced that there christmas eve there would be no christmas eve fixtures next year. because apart anything it's apart from anything else, it's not scheduling. it's not so much the scheduling. it's the transport the fact that the transport infrastructure at this time of year to it all. year simply is not up to it all. >> aidan magee, >> brilliant aidan magee, thank you morning you very much. this morning on boxing any not boxing day, refresh any not hungover, possibly will hungover, but he possibly will be after the match this afternoon. i need enjoy. afternoon. i need it. enjoy. yeah, need one. yeah, you might need that one. right. up we'll hear from right. coming up we'll hear from nigel farage. i think we've got him the line the him back on the line at the hunting here is hunting camp. but first here is the headlines sophia the news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thank you . john, it's 1030. >> thank you. john, it's1030. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. labour is considering plans to process asylum seekers claims overseas . according to

claims overseas. according to a report in the times . shadow home report in the times. shadow home secretary yvette cooper and shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock have reportedly been speaking to asylum experts to draw up an alternative way to stop migrants crossing the channelin stop migrants crossing the channel in small boats. the plan would see asylum seekers have their claims processed in a second country, with successful applicants allowed to enter the uk . labour leader sir keir uk. labour leader sir keir starmer has previously dismissed the government's rwanda scheme as gimmick . the government's rwanda scheme as gimmick. tory mp mike freer as a gimmick. tory mp mike freer tells gb news his constituency offices remain a crime scene as police investigate a suspected arson attack . fire crews were arson attack. fire crews were called to the building in north london on christmas eve after it was partially damaged by the blaze. the mp told gb news. police are examining cctv footage and he does not yet know when his offices will be released back to him. no one was in the building at the time of the incident at marks . and the incident at marks. and spencer's and john lewis are among major retailers who have opted to remain closed this

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weeknights from six. >> welcome back. it is 1035, but you don't need to know that it's boxing day . why do you need boxing day. why do you need another time? you're going nowhere. you're staying here another time? you're going noqus,. you're staying here another time? you're going noqus, watching:aying here another time? you're going noqus, watching andg here another time? you're going noqus, watching and listening with us, watching and listening to right now. i think we to gb news right now. i think we are going to go back to the oh no, actually, no not yet. i'm joined again by broadcaster and journalist claire muldoon and former adviser michael gove. charlie riley , who are with me charlie riley, who are with me all this morning, morning mournfully. and we now, by the way, because it is boxing day have a box—pierce . okay. just have a box—pierce. okay. just saying there is more orange , saying there is more orange, more click . cheers. more orange, more click. cheers. how much more? >> what more? >> what more? >> there's more orange in this than champagne. >> are you doing a boxing hunt after this ? after this? >> yes. >> yes. >> any case. careful, claire. >> any case. careful, claire. >> you young lady. there is definitely more orange in this.

but cheers , everybody. happy but cheers, everybody. happy boxing day. i hope you're enjoying yourselves as much as we are here in the studio. and we are here in the studio. and we . but don't go too far now we are. but don't go too far now . be talking now . we are going to be talking now we're going to go back to christmas want to christmas tv because i want to talk about doctor who. we didn't have time to talk about doctor talk about doctor who. we didn't have dida to talk about doctor talk about doctor who. we didn't have did we?talk about doctor who, did we? >> well , know, i'm who, did we? >> well, know, i'm glad we >> well, you know, i'm glad we brought because we've brought that up because we've dipped as a dipped in and dipped out as a family. who for many family. on doctor who for many years. christopher years. and christopher eccleston, far i'm eccleston, as far as i'm concerned, best ever. concerned, was the best ever. >> pretty good. >> he was pretty good. >> he was pretty good. >> david tennant hit the mark, but then subsequently not been bothered with it until until this new doctor who, who trained at the royal conservatoire in glasgow , who is an he looks glasgow, who is an he looks amazing. the styling was fantastic, his voice was amazing and he even wore a kilt and that for me was it. he's outstanding ncuti gatwa he is fabulous. >> yeah, we can see the dancing there. i have to say. look, it was so looking hot because he's in a very sweaty disco, but he

actually looks very hot. but the other was russell t davies other thing was russell t davies is really on point in certain things writes years and things that he writes years and years, etc. was or steven moffat was fantastic . was absolutely fantastic. >> however, i think russell t davies is back to his form now. there was no virtue signalling in this. >> you know what, claire? that's what i to mention because what i wanted to mention because it action thing it was more like an action thing going like going on. it was more like a charlize like too charlize looking at us like too you're women about you're mad women talking about a very young. >> we're a bit mad. very young. >> don'te're a bit mad. very young. >> don't forget,it mad. very young. >> don't forget, he'sid. very young. >> don't forget, he's in >> but don't forget, he's in jeans and trainers. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> just leave there . >> let's just leave that there. >> let's just leave that there. >> you >> so, don, what were you saying? he have saying? yeah. so he could have turned looking turned up in a kill looking a bit like that. >> and been okay with >> and we'd have been okay with the viewers, i'm told. >> but not. >> outside. no, but it's not. it's more. the thing it's more. miss. the thing i really about it. really liked about it. >> claire and charlie, you can join in whenever you want. um, is it. it's more is the fact that it. it's more of an action thing going on? we had the floating pirate. oh, i shouldn't give too spoilers shouldn't give too much spoilers away, should we? but we sort away, should we? but we had sort of, proper, quite scary monsters. >> i think doctor who, as a franchise is in very safe hands with this new doctor. >> he's he's just he delivered

this script the plot was easy. it was youthful , it was fresh, it was youthful, it was fresh, it was vibrant. it had that family theme running through. yes. of the foundling that, you know, and davina mccall playing herself as a character. there were some great bits in it, weren't they, from long lost families that whole families and that whole narrative. it was just so lovely at christmas. >> well, once i finished catching up on eastenders from february because when february, because that's when the plot started. as we heard in the plot started. as we heard in the last hour. >> as hayley said, we can watch it on iplayer on catch up. >> so once i finished with eastenders, i'll tune in. >> i've got to catch up on eastenders 1986, which eastenders from 1986, which is about watched eastenders from 1986, which is abybut watched eastenders from 1986, which is abybut talking watched eastenders from 1986, which is abybut talking of watched eastenders from 1986, which is abybut talking of that,/atched eastenders from 1986, which is abybut talking of that, anitad it, but talking of that, anita dobson was also she was she, she was . was. >> and i said to the children, do you know who she's married to? like , no, to? and they were like, no, who's who? i went, brian , who's who? yeah. i went, brian, me from queen. no ever me from queen. no one ever would have that . have known that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, i knew that, i knew that. >> no, i knew that, i knew that. >> i didn't >> did you know that i didn't know may see, i knew know who's brian may see, i knew that i set up for you. that i set that up for you. seriously >> did you just say who's brian ? >> did you just say who's brian? >> did you just say who's brian? >> luckily, i know who brian may

is a big fan of is because i'm a big fan of queen and the, um. uh, what did you you went queen? >> that was my. queen? >> what nas my. queen? >> what nas |that? >> what was that? >> what was that? >> was the screen? oh, it's >> what was the screen? oh, it's . ha. by the way , radio . ha. by the way, radio listeners , due to the hard listeners, due to the hard shoulder . shoulder. >> now listening to that , if you >> now listening to that, if you are listening to the radio, you're listening . you're listening. >> charlie is talking about a guitar , right? get any other guitar, right? get any other thought of g strings out of your head or dental floss? >> is a recorded, even though it's boxing day, you may have had a box. >> fears like we have as well, but talking to brian it's but talking to brian may, it's a big hunting and he's big day for hunting and he's obviously very pro . wildlife and obviously very pro. wildlife and badgers things like that. badgers and things like that. what think about hunting , what do we think about hunting, charlie, you've been very quiet . charlie, you've been very quiet. >> he's he's also i don't think i'm giving you too much away because i think it's in public. he's a constituent of he's also a constituent of michael he was the michael gove when he was the environment michael gove when he was the envircthere it michael gove when he was the envircthereit some inside info think there was some inside info . as you're . campaigner as you're absolutely right, he's a big campaigner of environmental and animal causes . i campaigner of environmental and animal causes. i think animal welfare causes. i think look, a what jumps into

look, there is a what jumps into my mind when we talk about fox hunting. it goes back to the 2017 party election 2017 tory party election manifesto that theresa may suggested and brought back in that this is something that could be brought back to the table a vote, the table as a free vote, and the amount and amount of conservatives and people might naturally people that you might naturally have be, might be have thought would be, might be more pro fox hunting. um the support wasn't there. so i do think there is an overinflate view still in this country , view still in this country, particularly with, uh, those who are pro hunt. um that, you know, thatis are pro hunt. um that, you know, that is still something that the countryside alliance and people do, do want . and i just don't do, do want. and i just don't think it's there within the general public. i think it's such issue such such a small issue for such a small that small group of people that actually population actually mainstream population just don't care. and i'm with them. afraid i mean, i don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i afraid i mean, i don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i don'taid i mean, i don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i don't wantmean, i don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i don't want to an, i don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i don't want to seei don't just don't care. and i'm with them. i don't want to see foxn't really i don't want to see fox hunting. um, hunting. i'm, you know, um, i understand and the issues around maybe foxes and the way in which they might be detrimental to the local environment, but fox hunting not the answer for to hunting is not the answer for to curtailing that particular. >> it has actually been banned in in england and wales since

2004. >> but i don't understand the argument why we need to bring it back in. in previous back in. its in its previous form. i heard any real form. i haven't heard any real articulation. the chap articulation. i mean, the chap early said, if, uh, you early on said, well, if, uh, you know, want to vote it know, people want to vote it down, if it's a free in down, if it's a free vote in parliament, they've got fight down, if it's a free vote in pa|their3nt, they've got fight down, if it's a free vote in pa|their hands. y've got fight down, if it's a free vote in pa|their hands. well,iot fight down, if it's a free vote in pa|their hands. well, it's fight down, if it's a free vote in pa|their hands. well, it's notht on their hands. well, it's not been 2004. you're been there since 2004. you're absolutely right. so but i don't understand the overwhelming argument why should argument as to why it should be brought talking brought back while we're talking about , i think we can about hunting, i think we can now nigel farage, who is now go to nigel farage, who is actually at a hunt in chiddingstone castle in kent . chiddingstone castle in kent. >> um , let's have a listen to >> um, let's have a listen to what he's got to say at kingston castle in kent . castle in kent. >> it's a beautiful morning. and this is the west kent, an old surrey and burstow hunt. they meet here every year. there'll be a big crowd here today. 2 or 3000. and expected around 3000. and it's expected around the country. about a quarter of a million people will attend hunt meets. now. it's important to remember that since 2004, these packs haven't actually been hunting foxes . they're been hunting foxes. they're hunting a trail, and it does seem bizarre that there's now pressure being put on the labour party. if they come to power to

ban people riding horses and following the argument is that sometimes the pack of hounds will pick up the scent of a fox and chase a fox, but actually that applies to every single dog in the country . you go for in the country. you go for a walk in the country if your dog sees a hare , it will sees a rabbit or a hare, it will chase it. it probably chase after it. it probably won't catch it. so this community, which has had to adapt to not really hunting, but has still managed to maintain many of its traditions and remember these days they're a big coming together of country people. we've got a beer tent over here, very good local brew coffees, burgers and it's a big social event. it's a big thing in people's calendar and it's all about people going out riding , all about people going out riding, seeing all about people going out riding , seeing the wonderful riding, seeing the wonderful dogs and actually having fun. and i get the feeling that pesa and others, what they really object to is people actually enjoying themselves . so i would enjoying themselves. so i would say very clearly , leave trail say very clearly, leave trail hunting alone. we do have to

control foxes . there isn't quite control foxes. there isn't quite unanimity on that , but certainly unanimity on that, but certainly a very big majority of people understand and that it isn't just the fox that gets your chickens your but chickens or your ducks, but actually there too many actually there are too many foxes. suffers very foxes. wildlife suffers very badly, too many foxes in east anglia. there'll be no hares in east anglia, too many foxes here, songbirds will suffer. so we all agree that foxes need to be controlled and actually, contrary to much of the myth, a pack of dogs that snaps , you pack of dogs that snaps, you know, the neck of a dog is probably far less cruel than shooting a fox . not cleanly, shooting a fox. not cleanly, that crawls away and dies of gangrene . the fox is a beautiful gangrene. the fox is a beautiful creature, but it is a pest. anyway. today isn't fox hunting. it's trail hunting . it's going it's trail hunting. it's going to be a very jolly time, and it feels like this debate that we had all those years ago has been reinforced . and one last point reinforced. and one last point to make both peter mandelson and tony blair, who took a £1 million donation from an anti—hunting charity, now say

the legislation was a mistake. so let's just leave alone where we are now. thank thank you very much . much. >> nigel farage there at his own hunt down in kent today . what hunt down in kent today. what did you make of what nigel had to say there? >> well, clearly nigel farage knows exactly what he's saying all of the time. very all of the time. he's a very measured and very calculated orator . and something orator. and this is something very dear to his heart. um, so it's trail hunting now is a way, i think the framing it. um, but we can't forget, though, that the traditions of sometimes in this country that people want to do this on boxing day, what i it doesn't affect me and i'm not saying it doesn't affect me. therefore it's okay. um if this is something that's been done through historical time, through many times, people get enjoyment out of it. as he said, they had local brewers down. it's a very much a community family environment. so anything like that , i'm very environment. so anything like that, i'm very pro. can i just say so if this is what it's

being, if this is what he's doing, if this is what makes people sometimes happy boxing people sometimes happy in boxing day , who are day out in the country, who are we to say stop it? >> and i think, charlie, you know, all three us live in know, all three of us live in london. many people watching and listening in the listening today will live in the big cities, and it's all very well sitting, pontificating well us sitting, pontificating about really about something we don't really understand because we don't we're not part rural we're not part of a rural community city. mm. >> no, i think that's i think that's true. i mean, i'm all for a beer tent and a burger van, but know, i but i think, you know, and i do agree, is very articulate. agree, nigel is very articulate. he knows what he's asking for. but this issue, but i just think on this issue, it's because he it's still unclear because he talked there you talked about there that, you know, and you know, foxes are a pest and you know, foxes are a pest and you know, on other know, they can impact on other local domestic life. and so what are you asking for? do you want to bring back real fox hunting as it was in the past, or do you want to stick with the trail hunting? which sounds to me perfectly reasonable if it is a tradition and it's not tradition and if it's not hurting it's hurting anybody, and it's a tradition people to tradition that people want to continue, for all that. but continue, i'm for all that. but i people just have be i think people just have to be absolute clear what do absolute clear about what do they want to bring they want? do they want to bring back or do they back fox hunting, or do they want it is?

want to keep it as it is? >> and are showing >> and are they showing water ship there as well? >> i love watership down. it's a great film. but while we're on politics, we're going to stay on politics, we're going to stay on politics a bit higher. um the big political announcement today on of the times the on the front of the times or the telegraph drawing telegraph was labour is drawing up legally watertight alternatives . yes but alternatives to rwanda. yes but they said they're drawing up a plan. they didn't actually go into details the plan. into details of the plan. charlie you make of what charlie what do you make of what they've the surprised me that >> well, the surprised me that there's bones there's no meat on the bones there's no meat on the bones there no detail there or there's no detail because think just been because i think that's just been part the labour playbook at part of the labour playbook at the making the minute, which is making headune the minute, which is making headline getting headline announcements, getting people look at the labour people to look at the labour party, but not actually saying very and i think, very much about it. and i think, look, were alternatives look, if there were alternatives , i'm pretty sure government lawyers and government civil servants would ultimately be servants who would ultimately be the all the legwork the ones doing all the legwork for whoever's in government, would with another would have come up with another plan by now. i know they want to look sort of checking people look at sort of checking people in countries in at different countries rather than actually come than before people actually come into . well, fine. but i into the uk. well, fine. but i think that is happening anyway. into the uk. well, fine. but i thin sawat is happening anyway. into the uk. well, fine. but i thin sawat is prime�*ning anyway. into the uk. well, fine. but i thin sawat is prime ministerway. into the uk. well, fine. but i thin sawat is prime minister out you saw the prime minister out in a few weeks ago, just

in italy a few weeks ago, just before christmas, doing deal in italy a few weeks ago, just bef0|the1ristmas, doing deal in italy a few weeks ago, just bef0|the1ristmas,t03ing deal in italy a few weeks ago, just bef0|the1ristmas,to stop deal in italy a few weeks ago, just bef0|the1ristmas,to stop the al with the italians to stop the flow of people coming right across don't across europe. you don't just appear way , appear in france, by the way, and then appear in the uk. there is movement , a and then appear in the uk. there is movement, a mass is a whole movement, a mass migration movement coming across europe. so you have to do deals and work countries in and work with other countries in within the problem within the eu before the problem gets shores of dover gets to the shores of, of dover or the south—east. so all of that seems to me to be taking place anyway. and as you say, it sounds probably just another headune sounds probably just another headline a headline for headline in a good headline for laboun headline in a good headline for labour, people labour, because people are talking the talking about it. and on the front times. but if front page of the times. but if there's no detail, it's there's no detail, then it's not going cop for the going to be much cop for the british public. yeah, it's in the actually the times where it's actually the times where it's actually the page the times is the front page of the times is it's plans the front page of the times is it's offshore plans the front page of the times is it's offshore processing plans the front page of the times is it's offshore processing schemes, for offshore processing schemes, just haven't given us the details. yeah and sounds great, but if it could be done , i'm but if it could be done, i'm sure this government would be doing it more than anybody else. but the that, know, but the fact that, you know, every time , you know, got every time, you know, you've got to happening in to look at what's happening in parliament. if every time parliament. and if every time legislation forward, legislation comes forward, whatever is, if whatever the legislation is, if it's the labour it's voted down by the labour party , which it has been, then party, which it has been, then you can't really sort of take

them at face to value say there'll be even tougher when they've every they've been voting down every other put forward. absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and my bugbears of >> and one of my big bugbears of the the minute the opposition at the minute is they've many they've kept schtum on so many other issues. right. we as an electorate need to be we need to be led. we need to be, you know, in with confidence, with who we have in government, but also don't forget opposition mps are still elected members of parliament. that really ought still to be there to out still to be there to send out the message as our mps, as as the message as our mps, as as the electorate of what we want, what we want happening and what we want so for them to we want done. so for them to keep shtoom on so many other issues, think actually up issues, i think it's actually up allocating their responsibility to a big part. on their role as mps, because i'll tell you, as long as there are refugees fleeing persecution, as long as there are illegal immigrants trying to come through here with the horrible business model attached to human trafficking and human slavery, if they've kept stim on this more fool

them. and i think it's actually wrong of them on a moral level as well. they should have been putting through things. well, why this? have you why don't we do this? have you thought of that? you know, instead leaving people high instead of leaving people high and immoral . and dry, it's immoral. >> this particular row, claire, because other political because the other political story sort of like, you story today is sort of like, you know, next general election know, the next general election will be happening within the next, you know, within the next year rather than later . year earlier rather than later. um, are the tories ready for a general election next year, as rishi sunak has implied, is going to happen? is labour ready for a general election? i mean, you know , the polls are saying you know, the polls are saying labour are going win , but i labour are going to win, but i mean, have had surprises mean, we have had surprises before with major before, famously with john major when was he was re—elected. when he was he was re—elected. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and it happened. and i think you're right, claire. i mean, >> and it happened. and i think youlike ght, claire. i mean, >> and it happened. and i think youlike no:, claire. i mean, >> and it happened. and i think youlike no oneaire. i mean, >> and it happened. and i think youlike no one knowsnean,what it's like no one knows now what anyone stands for anymore. everyone infamous flip flip flops on everything and reverses. it's so sad . reverses. it's so sad. >> it's so sad. >> and the reform party are probably going to take votes away from the conservative party. can you see that being a thing, charlie ?

thing, charlie? >> i mean, crude terms, >> i mean, in in crude terms, i certainly think they'll take votes whether take votes away whether they take enough another enough seats is another another question, because ultimately , in question, because ultimately, in crude terms, the election now it's all it's a numbers game. yeah. and so politics and well that's what first past the post is it. is isn't it. >> we: e a numbers game. >> it is just a numbers game. >> it is just a numbers game. >> exactly so think look >> exactly. so and i think look the people ask well the reason why people ask well why sucked up so much why is rwanda sucked up so much energy the last few months? energy over the last few months? and not and why is the government not talking about things that matter? are opposition talking about things that matter? talking are opposition talking about things that matter? talking about pposition talking about things that matter? talking about thingson mps not talking about things that the keir that matter? and why is the keir starmer positioning himself as the margaret thatcher starmer positioning himself as the still margaret thatcher starmer positioning himself as the still talkingaret thatcher immigration? >> shocking. >> it's just shocking. >> it's just shocking. >> wall seats are so >> the red wall seats are so important, and this is a big issue people, particularly issue for people, particularly people the people that people in the north. people that particularly . brexit particularly voted for. brexit those are the seats that you've got to hold. you've also got to try and hold south—east try and hold the south—east and the south—west with tail the south—west with your tail off you've got off to the lib dems. you've got the the tories the competition for the tories with it is with the reform party, but it is all who you can articulate all about who you can articulate the right message to, to the right people to get the right number of seats to form a majority . and that's why i'm majority. and that's why i'm afraid to say that, you know, no party seems to be ready unless,

you the tories deliver on you know, the tories deliver on its is its priorities. the economy is getting better. yep, that's a good start . small boats down by good start. small boats down by a third. but there's more to do in those areas. so the in all of those areas. so the prime minister will be able to go country say, look, go to the country and say, look, i my priorities at the i gave you my priorities at the start now start of january 2023. we're now into ticked however into 2024. i've ticked however many them, we're making many of them, or we're making good in this the good progress in this area. the choice general choice at the next general election either the next election will either be the next prime minister will either be rishi or sir starmer. rishi sunak or sir keir starmer. are any other party or let are there any other party or let labour through the back door? labour in through the back door? yeah. and in that includes reform includes the lib dems reform or includes the lib dems in the south. reform or includes the lib dems in twell)uth. reform or includes the lib dems in twell let's hope it doesn't >> well let's hope it doesn't include indeed indeed i mean the >> and indeed indeed i mean the let's hope are blasted to let's hope they are blasted to oblivion . oblivion. >> yes, here, here. >> well, i'm going to actually handbrake turn on this subject now because we are going to be talking about shopping very, very quickly. we're running out of time unfortunately. but obviously it's a big shopping day. day sales day. it's the boxing day sales and evidently how many of us are going out shopping and what we spend 3.7 billion today is expected to be spent on on the

south. i know i know, not us obviously, because we're here working . very hard, going working. very hard, going shopping this afternoon. well i'll be i'll certainly straight after the studio. >> be going shopping a >> i'll be going shopping for a new my next man. >> thank goodness we may have mentioned claire once mentioned it, claire once or twice. once or twice. twice. dawn. dawn once or twice. >> i thought i was quite fashionable this morning. honestly i thought i did. >> well, you know what thought did which which fashion magazines exactly, darling? >> magazines ? >> or professional magazines? >> or professional magazines? >> haven't my glasses on, >> i haven't got my glasses on, so got contacts. so i haven't got all contacts. you i evidently you need glasses? i evidently prefer while we're doing a bit of a man bullying here. >> the other story i wanted to mention very, very briefly . >> the other story i wanted to mention very, very briefly. um. man flu. you may have noticed i've been coughing a bit recently . it's a it's cold. recently. it's a it's a cold. okay. nothing more than a cold. recently. it's a it's a cold. okajhusband's more than a cold. recently. it's a it's a cold. okajhusband's morathan a cold. recently. it's a it's a cold. okajhusband's mora cough.cold. recently. it's a it's a cold. okajhusband's mora cough. much the husband's got a cough. much much obviously much worse than mine. obviously um, man is thing which men um, man flu is a thing which men are genetically proven to be hardier than men. >> that's why women have children. i'll leave it there . children. i'll leave it there. after having had four.

>> yeah, exactly . leave it there >> yeah, exactly. leave it there for time. >> so if men were to have children, we wouldn't still be alive. >> so i'm sorry. >> population would just. >> population would just. >> no, i am . >> no, i am. »- >> no, i am. >> oh, that. i okay. we are, we are friends . really. we are are friends. really. we are lovely . true. we are out of time. >> claire muldoon and charlie rowley, thank you so much. >> you're very welcome, dawn. >> you're very welcome, dawn. >> thank you . and thank you for >> thank you. and thank you for watching. love having your company. hearing your company. love hearing your thoughts . um, and but there's thoughts. um, and but there's much coming up gb much more coming up on gb news today. too far, but today. don't go too far, but let's find out what the weather's doing. if you are going venture to those going to venture out to those sounds you can face on the sounds and you can face on the radio, the radio, remember we're on the radio, remember we're on the radio the radio as well. so let's get the weather greg weather update with greg dewhurst outlook with dewhurst a brighter outlook with boxt sponsors of weather boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello. good morning. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. it is looking mostly dry for boxing

day. much brighter as well. plenty of sunny spells though . plenty of sunny spells though. rain will return into the south—west later. so this morning it's chilly , bright, morning it's chilly, bright, plenty of sunny spells, some icy stretches across scotland , stretches across scotland, wintry showers across the far north here but for the vast majority , a great day to be majority, a great day to be outside. plenty of hazy sunshine and dry weather to enjoy. however, cloud and rain will spill into parts of cornwall and into devon as the afternoon progresses here. 11 or 12 celsius, but for most, something a little more festive around 4 to 6 celsius. as we move through into the evening time this rain will slowly push its way northeastward. some heavy bursts developing as it moves into parts of wales , northern ireland parts of wales, northern ireland too, and then into the early hours. the winds start to pick up well. we could see gusts up as well. we could see gusts of 60, possibly 70 miles an hour starting move into the far starting to move into the far southwest and temperatures as a result. mild in the south but cold across the north. some icy stretches developing across scotland. some hill snow also developing across southern

scotland and then mainland scotland and then mainland scotland . as we move through the scotland. as we move through the day. heavy rain for much of the uk pushing its way slowly north and eastwards, perhaps some dner and eastwards, perhaps some drier weather across the far south—east and then some brighter skies moving into northern ireland later. so an unsettled day for everyone, especially if you're travelling. do take care staying on the mild side for all that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> i'll paraphrase that for you. it's wet, windy, miserable. don't go anywhere. sit on your sofas, watch gb news it is brilliant. thank you for watching morning . we are watching me this morning. we are the next the people's channel. up next though. cracking political show. coming editor coming up a political editor reviews the year in politics, so stay tuned. stay cosy . don't go stay tuned. stay cosy. don't go out in that

weather. >> good afternoon . i'm sophia >> good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . wenzler in the gb newsroom. labouris wenzler in the gb newsroom. labour is considering plans to process asylum seekers claims overseas, according to a report in the times. shadow home secretary yvette cooper and shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock have reportedly been speaking to asylum experts to draw up an alternative way to stop migrants crossing the channelin stop migrants crossing the channel in small boats. the plan

would see asylum seekers have their claims processed in a second country, with successful applicants allowed to enter the uk. labour leader sir keir starmer has previously dismissed the government's rwanda scheme as gimmick . the government's rwanda scheme as gimmick. marks and as a gimmick. marks and spencer's and john lewis are among major retailers who have opted to remain closed this boxing day, trading only the day after christmas, is one of the busiest shopping days for high streets , with this year expected streets, with this year expected to biggest in five years. to be the biggest in five years. wicks pets at home and home bargains , as well as major bargains, as well as major supermarkets aldi , iceland and supermarkets aldi, iceland and the majority of waitrose stores will not open today . more than will not open today. more than three quarters of people are expected to do the majority of their shopping online instead , their shopping online instead, labour has been warned to stay away from traditional boxing day. fox hunt parades ahead of the next general election. countryside campaigners have told the party to end its running attack on rural communities . they say sir keir communities. they say sir keir starmer risks igniting a toxic culture war if his party repeats

past attacks on rural life. fox