gb news. >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . hitting the headlines right now. this about opinion this show is all about opinion on it's mine, it's theirs, and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing it. at times. disagree , but no times. we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and author christine hamilton and also broadcast on columnist danny kelly. but before we get stuck in, let's get your latest news with aaron armstrong . it's 3:00. armstrong. it's 3:00. >> good afternoon to you. i'm aaron armstrong. thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all trains to and from london. the company has apologised after what it said was unprecedented flooding in a

number tunnels, including number of tunnels, including under the thames, after 35,000 passengers, may have been affected, with many of those left stranded at london's saint pancras station earlier. some have to social media to have taken to social media to vent frustrations , saying vent their frustrations, saying they were only told of the cancellations at 8:00 this morning and forecasters are warning people to take care ahead of new year celebrations as strong winds are expected and the met office says there's a small risk of tornadoes in many parts of england and wales. heavy rains are also predicted across the country and parts of scotland are likely to see significant levels of snow. scotland are likely to see significalerts/els of snow. scotland are likely to see signific alerts willof snow. scotland are likely to see signific alerts will be ;now. scotland are likely to see signific alerts will be in�*w. scotland are likely to see significalerts will be in place yellow alerts will be in place until 3 am. tomorrow. police may be facing renewed scrutiny over the huge amount of crimes that haven't been solved this yean that haven't been solved this year, new figures reveal . there year, new figures reveal. there were 4.7 million unsolved crimes in 2023. that's almost 86% of those reported. 1.7 million were of a violent nature , with of a violent nature, with a further million down to criminal damage or arson. in many cases,

police fail to find a suspect. labour says the conservatives record on solving crimes is disgraceful and it's accused the government of letting criminals off and letting victims down. the uk is accused russia of deliberately targeting civilians in ukraine. it comes after its most devastating air attack since the invasion began . since the invasion began. ukraine says the brutality of the strikes on friday, which killed 31 people, proves there can be no talk of a truce with moscow . president volodymyr moscow. president volodymyr zelenskyy says russia used everything in its arsenal, firing more than 100 missiles at targets, including a maternity hospital. the un security council has condemned the violence , with the uk's violence, with the uk's representative , barbara representative, barbara woodford, accusing russia of deliberately killing innocent people . people. >> all these missiles were aimed at population centres across ukraine at kyiv, lviv . to ukraine at kyiv, lviv. to dnipro, a odesa, kharkiv , dnipro, a odesa, kharkiv, kaminski and many more cities . kaminski and many more cities. they struck homes , apartment

they struck homes, apartment buildings, shopping centres and metros and maternity hospital and a regional oncology centre have been damaged . in short, have been damaged. in short, civil alien infrastructure . civil alien infrastructure. >> the 23 year old man has appeared in court charged with the murder of chris marriott, who was hit by a car in sheffield. the father of two was with his family when he tried to help woman lying unconscious help a woman lying unconscious in on wednesday. he in the street on wednesday. he was when a car ploughed was killed when a car ploughed into a crowd to 83 year into a small crowd to 83 year old hassan. guy anker is also facing five counts of attempted murder. he's due to appear at sheffield crown court on tuesday . the two men have been killed in a house fire in south london. emergency services were called to an address on sandhurst road in croydon just before 11:00 last night. two men were pronounced dead at the scene . pronounced dead at the scene. two other men are in a life threatening condition in hospital, while a fifth person has been discharged . the cause has been discharged. the cause of fire is being

of the fire is being investigated , shamed , cronyism investigated, shamed, cronyism and a slap in the to face working people. just two of the criticism of liz truss resignation honours list. britain's shortest serving prime ministers handed out 11 peerages to political allies , tory donors to political allies, tory donors and former aides , which amounts and former aides, which amounts to a peerage for every four days in office. labour says honours should be for public service , should be for public service, not for rewarding tory failure. liz truss resigned last october after 49 days amid economic turmoil sparked by her so—called mini—budget meanwhile, dame shirley bassey's been given the highest award in the king's new year's honours list. the legendary singer is the 64th living member of the order of the companions of honour. in recognition of her services to music, its limited to 65 members at any one time. dame shirley has sold 135 million records worldwide . the glastonbury worldwide. the glastonbury festival founder michael eavis and the wetherspoons boss tim martin have been knighted , and martin have been knighted, and there are damehoods for author

jilly cooper and mp siobhan mcdonagh amongst others , and mcdonagh amongst others, and life coaches and running clubs will be recommended to those on long terme sick leave to get people into work. doctors people back into work. doctors employers and job centres will be encouraged to suggest therapeutic recreation such as gardening or cooking clubs, in an effort to reduce the number of people signed off a pilot scheme called work well will see the concept tested in 15 areas before it is expanded nationally . we're live across the uk, on tv, on digital radio. if you want us on your smart speaker, just say play gb news now it's over to . over to. nana. >> thank you aaron. it's fast approaching six minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 3:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. coming up as an

official watchdog reveals that our cops are, quote, inadequate . our cops are, quote, inadequate. i'll be discussing whether the police force is beyond repair. then stay tuned. at 320, it's climate control . we debate climate control. we debate issues around the climate, from flash floods to wildfires across europe. are we in the middle of a climate crisis, or is it simply just weather? paul burgess dill go burgess and jim dill will go head then at 335, head to head, then at 335, doctor chris smith , aka the doctor chris smith, aka the naked scientist. don't worry , naked scientist. don't worry, he'll be fully clothed. well, i hope so. he's going to be live to discuss all things vaccines with london reporting the lowest uptake for the mmr uptake rates for the mmr vaccine. i'll be diving into why. and if brits are putting their children danger, then their children in danger, then to shine the light on the economy, economists justin urquhart is in . the urquhart stewart is in. the political spotlight this week. will 2024 bring more tax cuts? can labour save the economy and justin will give us his take. that's on the way as tell that's on the way as ever. tell me what you on everything me what you think on everything we're email we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me

at . gb news. so gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. so you may have been outside . if you're in sort been outside. if you're in sort of middle england, it's probably not so bad. but the met office have issued a yellow weather warning southern england and warning for southern england and wales, with heavy wind and rain expected from 10 am. now. parts of the country will face up to 75 mile per hour. gusts of wind and two inches of rain during the new year weekend. now, this latest weather warning comes just after the chaos caused by storm garrett earlier this week. well, with us now to give us the latest gb news reporter jack carson. jack, where are you ? carson. jack, where are you? where are you? get back home. joking. where are you? i mean , joking. where are you? i mean, i'm in fourth. >> chlorine in wales. where? of course, the wind has really been hitting this coastline hard today. i just want to bring you the latest line that we've got from the met office on the weather today. they say that there is essentially a chance of isolated tornadoes because of a band of heavy rain that's moving east across parts of wales and

parts of england. they say the risk higher further south risk is higher further south that you go . so, um, that those that you go. so, um, that those areas will be having some briefly intense periods of wind and . um, but they say they and rain. um, but they say they can't rule out a few tornadoes appearing . of course it was in appearing. of course it was in greater manchester, wasn't it, earlier in the week that we saw how 100 properties were damaged by that mini tornado that ripped the roof off of the houses? the roof off one of the houses? um, so met issuing um, so the met office issuing that there that that that warning there that they say that because of the way that weather is going and that the weather is going in and it's heading east and north at the same that the same time, that particularly, could be particularly, um, there could be risks isolated tornadoes. but risks of isolated tornadoes. but as well, here in wales, there has been that yellow warning from 11:00 this morning for wind from 11:00 this morning for wind from 10:00 for rain. we've not had any rain, particularly here or i am just yet, but we do think around 3:00 is when it's going start really pour going to start to really pour down across different parts of this country that has also been some there are flood some rain. there are 15 flood alerts that, of course alerts in place that, of course are warnings that people are only warnings that people should possible should prepare for possible flooding rivers, flooding should certain rivers, um , overflow and burst their

um, overflow and burst their banks. but of course, those could easily be upgraded to flood warnings , um, official flood warnings, um, official flood warnings, um, official flood warnings, um , if of flood warnings, um, if of course, that rain does continue. we've seen the evidence of the snow and the disruption up there, of course, in scotland and also down in london as well at london. saint pancras, with the cancel the eurostar having to cancel all their trains from london onto the continent because of, of course, flooding in one of the high speed tunnels. we know a tanker has arrived on scene. there away. um there to try and clear away. um that water and of course end that water and of course end that disruption. but for people trying to, um, get around for new year's eve and for new year's day, there's a bit of disruption because of this weather i'm just so distracted >> um, i'm just so distracted with that your is it a with that on your head. is it a headband or is it a hat? gb news i love they give that to i love it. did they give that to you?i i love it. did they give that to you? i want one, this this this this is this was a little present. >> it is a hat. it's a beanie hat. it's a little present. um. and it's keeping my ears nice and warm. >> oh, well, i hope we've got some of those on the website, because i want one. jack so,

what predicting , then? what are they predicting, then? is part the is it just that part of the world? so wales southern world? so wales and southern england, they predicting england, or are they predicting that the storms going to that the storms are going to move north because move further up north because they've already had a battering? yeah >> so parts of the midlands particularly could get hit by some by some rainfall, but nothing as serious in terms of as of a yellow weather as so much of a yellow weather warning, um, of warning, which has been um, of course, uh , put in for southwest course, uh, put in for southwest england and for and for wales. we scotland's been hit we know scotland's been hit pretty by, by some wind and pretty hard by, by some wind and snow, particularly as well with the gritters been on the gritters have been out on the gritters have been out on the roads to try of course the roads to try and of course keep keep those main keep the keep those main transport scotland transport networks in scotland um clear spready mercury, one of the out the road the gritters is out on the road today and help the today to try and help the disruption. scotland's always disruption. so scotland's always got names some got some funny names for some gritters. spreading mercury got some funny names for some grmy's. spreading mercury got some funny names for some gr my favourite. ading mercury got some funny names for some grmy favourite. um,] mercury got some funny names for some gr my favourite. um, that'sury got some funny names for some gr my favourite. um, that's out got some funny names for some gr|the:avourite. um, that's out got some funny names for some gr|the roadrite. um, that's out got some funny names for some gr|the road todaym, that's out got some funny names for some gr|the road todaym, tryt's out on the road today to try and help. uh cause, uh, not cause so much disruption. um, but yeah, so it's particularly, well, spreading mercury that's causing the the wind the the most of the wind and the rain and. yeah, scotland , uh, rain and. yeah, in scotland, uh, scotland for snow and ice. >> that's great. i love that freddie mercury. listen, thank

you very much, jack. good to talk to you. talk you. that's talk to you. talk to you. that's jack carson. he's there in wales. and don't forget coming up. control. dale wales. and don't forget coming up. also control. dale wales. and don't forget coming up. also paul�*ntrol. dale wales. and don't forget coming up. also paul burgess dale wales. and don't forget coming up. also paul burgess willle wales. and don't forget coming up. also paul burgess will be and also paul burgess will be discussing and debating the issues the climate. but issues around the climate. but in all the festive cheer, it's so important to remember that the stop south the world doesn't stop south africa accused israel of genocide today , launching a genocide acts today, launching a case at the un court. and joining me from israel to discuss this as mystifier uri geller . uri, discuss this as mystifier uri geller. uri, thank you so much for joining me. um, so we hope forjoining me. um, so we hope you are well. how are things with you? first, i always like to hear how you are. >> yeah, were okay. and first >> yeah, we were okay. and first of all, nana, thanks for having me on your show. and i want to wish gb and all your wish gb news and all your viewers very happy new year. viewers a very happy new year. >> it not a happy new >> sadly, it is not a happy new year here in israel or gaza. >> there are still 130 israeli hostages in gaza and hamas are destroying their own people now at a time . this is answering a at a time. this is answering a question at a time when civilised the world, when the civilised the world, when the civilised world should be

support israel. it is out rageous that south africa has accused my country of committing genocide against the palestinians. this is a terrible lie, by the way. it's a lie in south africa knows it. genocide is what happened to the jews in the holocaust. genocide is what, uh, turkey did and turkey committed against the armenians in 1915. genocide is what isis carried out against the yazidis. israel is not commit genocide against the palestinians . just against the palestinians. just the opposite. we are going out of our way to try to avoid harming innocent palestinians . harming innocent palestinians. and do you know that the palestinian population of gaza has grown by more than six times in the last 50 years? what kind of genocide is it? when population grows and just to remind you all, once again, this

is my island behind me. and if you all, if you all want to help palestinian children . by the palestinian children. by the way, i turned my island into a country. this is the flag of the country. this is the flag of the country. if you want to help palestinian children become a citizen of my land island because it costs $1 and the money goes to save a child's heart, which is a charity here in israel that does open heart surgery to children from all around the world. 68 countries believe it or not, up to today we saved 8000 kids and half of them are palestinians . there's them are palestinians. there's one more thing that i want to tell you and your viewers something very important . you something very important. you have to understand who we are fighting against. nana this week , the new york times newspaper published an investigation which revealed that hamas did not just

kill 1200 innocent people, but they specifically targeted women . women. the new york times described how hamas terrorists carried out the most un believable acts of sexual violence against women before they murdered them. it was organised and it was deliberate. nana israel is fighting evil and we have to win . we have no we have to win. we have no choice . choice. >> yeah, well, look, it's undisputed that they did. you know, they did a horrendous things to the women. but some people would argue and you know, ihave people would argue and you know, i have to put this to you, that 21,000 people and they are of course, hamas figures in gaza have been killed. and the israeli army are telling people to go to certain areas. and then, i mean, there's literally nowhere left on that place that is potentially a safe place. so whether people want to terme it as genocide or whatever, the word a lot of palestinians word is a lot of palestinians are being killed . are being killed. >> looks dana. sadly, this is

war and every war, unfortunately, tragically has civilian casualties , civilian civilian casualties, civilian deaths. please understand that, uh, just to remind you , if you uh, just to remind you, if you do want to help palestinian kids and you want to get on my website , uri geller.com, the website, uri geller.com, the island comes up immediately. please become citizens. all the money, $1. that's all you have to pay. $1 goes to a good cause. nana.thank to pay. $1 goes to a good cause. nana. thank you. once again, having me on your show. i love you . and, uh, happy new year to you. and, uh, happy new year to all of you. >> yeah. all right, well, listen, laura, you take care of yourself. i know you're doing all of this for charity. it's not something that you're personally not something that you're personiit's really good talk not something that you're peyou. it's really good talk not something that you're peyou. takeeally good talk not something that you're peyou. take care good talk not something that you're peyou. take care ofod talk not something that you're peyou. take care of yourself( not something that you're peyou. take care of yourself . to you. take care of yourself. thank so much for on thank you so much for coming on and wonderful year. and have a wonderful new year. so hear what is happening so sad to hear what is happening in israel. and of course, uh , in israel. and of course, uh, within as a very, within gaza as well. a very, very i really they very sad i really wish they would but, uh, would stop fighting, but, uh, hopefully end to hopefully there'll be an end to it soon. but if you it in sight soon. but if you just board. just tuned in. welcome on board. just up to 15 minutes just coming up to 15 minutes after 3:00. a gb news on after 3:00. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio.

on the way political spotlight justin urquhart stewart will be here to shine the light will maybe be the answer to the failing economy, but up next, we'll back on some of we'll be looking back on some of the of 2023, the climate events of 2023, discussing whether they're down to man made or just nature. this to man made orjust nature. this is .

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board. if you just tuned in, this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's just coming up to 20 minutes after 3:00. and of course it's now time for climate control. we unpick the latest stories relating to the debate around climate change, and today i'll be looking back at some of the major events in 2023. it's been apparently the hottest year in recorded history, with some scientists saying that humans are unable to deal with the climate crisis of their own making. so we've seen flash floods in libya killing more than 11,300. in a coastal city of burma, wildfires ripped across europe and hawaii, with thousands of people evacuated across countries and, of course, more close to home. storm garrett, which has been causing a havoc across the uk that's threatening nearly 80 mph winds in the next few days. but with some lighters and arson equipment found in locations of the mediterranean and bad weather given over britain's winter months, i'm taking a deep dive into these climate

disasters and asking lots of questions, so joining me to unpick. i've got jim dale, meteorologist and commentator . meteorologist and commentator. also paul burgess, a climate scientist . all right. so i'm scientist. all right. so i'm going to start with you, jim dale. okay. so we i've been dale. yes. okay. so we i've been generous . i've talked about generous. i've talked about climate so—called catastrophe in 2023. >> i've done my forjob me. >> i've done my forjob me. >> oh no, no. but there there open to discussion. so talk to me about some of the things that, well, look nana, you could you could have gone on and on and and named 100 different and on and named 100 different things that have happened and more across the globe. >> often our eyes away >> we often take our eyes away from the rest of the globe and only ourselves. only look at ourselves. >> this case, this >> uh, but in this case, this has a tumultuous, has been a tumultuous, tumultuous year in terms of what's how it's gone what's gone on, how it's gone on, the amount of people that have not just have been affected by not just in the uk. i think the uk is sometimes on the periphery of this, biggest one, i'd this, but the biggest one, i'd say the biggest one. sea surface temperatures , ice. uh uh, temperatures, uh, ice. uh uh, decreasing from arctic and antarctic as well. um but the

disasters that you've already mentioned are the are the big ones. they're the ones that stand out. i've got a little piece in this morning's paper in the guardian climate disasters of 2023 reveal a failure to stem the crisis. experts say , which the crisis. experts say, which is precisely what you said on the intro . that's absolutely the intro. that's absolutely right. lost control . right. we've lost control. >> i balanced the intro, >> well, i balanced the intro, so i. you're talking as though i'm balancing what you basically said, we've control . said, but we've lost control. >> and to wrestle that back , i >> and to wrestle that back, i don't want to be completely negative. make that absolutely clear. there are clear. there are there are things can positive things that we can be positive about. example, today, about. for example, today, another 40% of our energy another day, 40% of our energy came from wind. the number one top spot. and it has been for the last week or two. all the way through. so i think that will increase . i think the will increase. i think the renewables will increase. i think we've reached the top of fossil fuel emissions , as fossil fuel emissions, as i think they will start to decline in 2024. so that that's that's the good news. the bad news is the good news. the bad news is the catastrophes that we've seen this year will be repeated , not this year will be repeated, not necessarily in the same places, but but make this absolutely

clear . they will they will clear. they will they will happen worldwide, globally. >> no, no, this is a prediction. you're no soothsayer. i mean, come on, look next year saying the thing, okay. well and the same thing, okay. well and maybe they won't have happened even that's the even then. i mean that's the question. regard to question. but with regard to libya. right now libya. yeah. yeah. right now that caused dam that was caused by a dam bursting. okay so that's what that's what it was caused by two dams bursting in. >> okay. yeah but what was the causal effect? it was eight inches of rain within a 24 hour penod inches of rain within a 24 hour period for nominal amounts of rain. >> in other words . >> in other words. >> in other words. >> you're saying the dam >> so you're saying the dam bursting rain? what do bursting caused rain? what do you mean? bursting caused rain? what do you no, an? no, no, rain >> no, no, no, no, the rain caused dam aggregated eight caused the dam aggregated eight inches of rain in a very. in fact, hours. it was fact, it wasn't 24 hours. it was actually eight hours. all all eight inches of rain falling is equivalent to give or take four months of london rain . in other months of london rain. in other words, in a few, in a few hours that landed. and that is what. yeah, the dams might not been in the greatest. they weren't they weren't they weren't maintained. >> were they. >> were they. >> that water in >> had they been that water in there in a non maintained dam

badly dam. you badly maintained dam. well you saw saw and saw what happened. you saw and the in in some right the headlines in in some right wing newspapers the sun, the mail for your life . all mail um run for your life. all of this type of thing from the wildfires you know wildfires and other. you know i need to. >> okay, i need to bring it over to paul burgess because you said a few things. so the main things. so main things just things. so your main things just give first thing you give me the first thing you talked about was this is talked about was, was this is the climate talked about was, was this is the greatest climate talked about was, was this is the greatest yearlimate talked about was, was this is the greatest year of ate talked about was, was this is the greatest year of climate change, greatest year of climate change, greatest year of climate change jim says it's the change ever. jim says it's the greatest year climate change. greatest year of climate change. >> mean, >> it's total nonsense. i mean, this promised this is the jim we've promised you he produced the you and me that he produced the evidence for more when evidence for more droughts. when the aren't any the ipcc say there aren't any and the ipcc say there aren't any floods as well, etc. any more floods as well, etc. as do environment from do the environment agencies from both atlantic, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so atlantic, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so i atlantic, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so i go atlantic, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so i go on atlantic, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so i go on athere:, etc. do the environment agencies from bot so i go on athere right? >> so i go on data here right? >> so i go on data here right? >> so i go on data here right? >> so if you take the dam and you know, that's my speciality, as it were, that was a dam failure. what a flood? failure. what is a flood? >> too water in a >> it's too much water in a limited it's not water limited time. it's not water over a time you can't over a long time and you can't get worse than the dam bursting for a flood because you get a lot of water. suddenly that's what lot of water. suddenly that's whtand no evidence that >> and there's no evidence that jim produce and i challenge jim can produce and i challenge him because he never him again now because he never

produces evidence. >> produce >> i challenge him to produce the increasing the evidence for increasing floods world, because the evidence for increasing flo does, world, because the evidence for increasing flo does, he'sworld, because the evidence for increasing flo does, he's going because the evidence for increasing flo does, he's going against; the evidence for increasing flo does, he's going against the he does, he's going against the ipcc, the environment, agencies, the next let's take tornado >> next one, let's take tornado as happened. as it happened. >> you know, there's more tornadoes in the uk per square mile than there are in america. >> i didn't know this number two, actually. number two. >> well, actually you're going to david schultz, to disagree with david schultz, who be the professor. who happens to be the professor. can i do it without interruption? >> because let you. we let >> because i'll let you. we let you to me, professor of you talk to me, professor of synoptic meteorology, university of manchester. >> he agrees with me . the >> he agrees with me. the tornadoes nothing. you tornadoes got nothing. you tornadoes got nothing. you tornado has happened. >> he had a phd thesis on this. >> he had a phd thesis on this. >> of his students. and he >> one of his students. and he works out that we get 2.3 in a unit area, 2.32m a year. and america. and he gets 1.3. >> well, what about what tornadoes. >> and i've got i've got data here. i actually handed the handed one of them to show was worse than the past. and the patterns. so tornadoes are nothing to do with climate as such. >> what about the wildfires in europe? well, let's take the wildfires in europe then.

>> right? >> right? >> wildfires in europe again >> the wildfires in europe again , if you well in wildfires , if you look well in wildfires in europe, i have a chart here. >> i've got one here, which i gave to the producer a while. >> can we get the wildfires in europe out. let's see. europe chart out. let's see. have in europe is here. have they got in europe is here. oh we haven't got it. we haven't got it. >> no, we've it here. right >> no, we've got it here. right >> no, we've got it here. right >> it mean. they >> what does it all mean. they can't that. so know can't see that. so just know if you down just you put that down and just describe it. >> just tell what is. >> just tell us what this is. european environment agency again and this again i use data. yeah. and this doesn't it shows a decline doesn't show. it shows a decline of anything wildfires of anything of wildfires in europe. you see when you actually look at the actually come to look at the data, you're looking at data, when you're looking at climate you've look at climate, you've got to look at wildfires floods, whatever it wildfires or floods, whatever it is, a period time, you is, over a period of time, you haven't got any information and i you because last i challenge you because last time you said and nana repeated it, produce the it, that you will produce the drought information and you didn't. >> it's not a case of coming on the thing with bits of paper, trying to flog them, flog them like you do, saying this is evidence of evidence because most of the stuff produce bogus to be stuff you produce is bogus to be frank you've mentioned frank with you, you've mentioned your tremendous frank with you, you've mentioned your office. remendous frank with you, you've mentioned your office. bear1dous frank with you, you've mentioned your office. bear with; wildfire office. bear with me. europe wildfires, wildfire office. bear with me. eurcyou wildfires, wildfire office. bear with me. eurcyou needn't. wildfires, wildfire office. bear with me. eurcyou needn't. you wildfires,

wildfire office. bear with me. eurcyou needn't. you you ldfires, but you needn't. you you neglected to mention canada who had worst wildfires ever. no had its worst wildfires ever. no actually, guys on the information. well he said he's got the canadian information. >> new york, let's talk about the canadian information because you that you talked about canada that went that. went into new york, all of that. >> see, you're so let let >> you see, you're so let let him respond because you've made a comment time . a comment all the time. >> know what >> you don't even know what climate is. i'm sorry. know climate is. i'm sorry. i know you're consultant, but you're a climate consultant, but you're a climate consultant, but you're to know what it is, what it is. if you're going to look at wildfires in canada, you've got over a period of time. >> and i didn't know i was going to be asked that. >> it recently and >> i looked at it recently and it's less. it's got less. >> so you can't you you i'm sorry. when i present with sorry. when i present you with data, ever present me data, you never, ever present me with back. ever, right? with data back. ever, right? that's bogus that's all i can do. bogus rubbish. >> but he's. but that's. i'm going have going to. i'm going to have to stop no, no. but stop you there. no no, no. but he pulled off from he has pulled things off from the ipcc and some of things. the ipcc and some of the things. no, has has to the no, he has no he has to the ipcc, has that don't count. ipcc, he has that don't count. >> you know, the ipcc to >> you know, the ipcc is to you it's a page that it's a 90 page report that basically backs up what nasa and noaa and other organisations have saying since the year have been saying since the year

since it, because it's bogus. i don't need to produce it. no, you can't coming on here with a scrap of paper trying to show it to radio. this is the royal waste of time society on the african floods. >> is the royal >> this is the royal meteorological saying, meteorological society saying, saying there's no way you saying that there's no way you can attribute to climate change. >> again, there's a quote you cherry like crazy cherry cherry picking like crazy cherry picking. i'm looking. heard what cherry picking like crazy cherry picksay. i'm looking. heard what cherry picking like crazy cherry pick say. what oking. heard what cherry picking like crazy cherry pick say. what you've heard what cherry picking like crazy cherry pick say. what you've got rd what cherry picking like crazy cherry pick say. what you've got to nhat cherry picking like crazy cherry picksay. what you've got to do.t you say. what you've got to do. if i can just say what you've got to do with all of this is join dots. join of join the dots. join the dots of all of the. you live in a bubble. you live weather with bubble. you live in weather with lots dots . you know you're a lots of dots. you know you're a water resource engineer. you're not even a climatologist. so what's actually you say? >> well hold on. okay no, no, no. as soon as you start doing that, i'm going to stop you. yeah. let's let's. no, no, yeah. okay. let's let's. no, no, no, neither should do no, neither of you should do that. let's talk about that. so let's let's talk about what? storm. gerry then or what? about storm. gerry then or jarrett garrett. what is jarrett garrett. jim, what is happening this storm? happening with this storm? >> let's put into >> well, let's put it into context storms happen. context. storms happen. they do happen. h context. storms happen. they do happen. it not necessarily happen. and it not necessarily climate related. you can't say every single event is a climate

event because that would be wrong. that would be absolutely wrong. that would be absolutely wrong. you've got to look after the event. maybe months and years. you've to these years. you've got to join these dots. can't say garrett dots. but you can't say garrett garrett, climate, climate garrett, a climate, climate change. what you've got to look at what's in it, it at is, is what's in it, how it how occurs. weather weather. how it occurs. weather weather. there procession of them . there are a procession of them. >> you see how it's occurred >> can you see how it's occurred now without. >> can you see how it's occurred noneah,)ut. >> can you see how it's occurred noneah, it's the jet stream. >> yeah, it's the jet stream. it's well, there's one thing, one climate and one connection to climate and that the ocean. sea that is the ocean. sea temperatures of the summer, autumn extremely warm. autumn time. extremely warm. give give it extra energy. give it. give it extra energy. that's easy. science isn't it? very, very easy science. paul for you. >> let me say something here. the sea contains a thousand times heat than the atmosphere. >> the sea controls are climate . >> the sea controls are climate. yes it does. i would agree with the control our climate the oceans control our climate model. >> they've got 50 times more co2 than atmosphere. the ocean than the atmosphere. the ocean just problems. than the atmosphere. the ocean just el problems. than the atmosphere. the ocean just el nino, problems. than the atmosphere. the ocean just el nino, the problems. than the atmosphere. the ocean just el nino, the nina.oblems. the el nino, the la nina. >> in the of the african floods. >> and got it from the >> and i've got it from the royal meteorological society, you know , that's down you know, that's not down to climate. you know, that's not down to clirso e. you know, that's not down to clirso what about storm garrett, though? >> we're talking about storm garrett is just a normal storm. there's different it. >> but let

emm- it. >> but let explain something. >> but let me explain something. >> but let me explain something. >> tropics all the >> as the tropics all the cooling and warming the earth cooling and warming of the earth takes side. takes place from either side. >> the poles. takes place from either side. >> it|e poles. takes place from either side. >> it doesn't. takes place from either side. >> it doesn't take place in the tropics. >> the tropics less stay >> the tropics more or less stay the as you differ the same. so as you differ between between the centre, between the between the centre, the tropics and the north, as there's a bigger differential, you get more extreme weather. so when it's cooler in the north now i'm going to just say something, of something, jim, briefly, 22nd of december, just past was the biggest extent in the arctic biggest ice extent in the arctic since 2009. i've just published a video, living in dream world somewhere. >> well, i'm living in are you really? are you really are living in a dream world? >> what have you got? >> what have you got? >> last week i made a statement. prove it. next week it just goes on and on and on. >> okay, let's just say the video is called. could it happen in is still in 2024? el nino is still running. still running. climate change is still going. i've said about the positive that are going positive things that are going to go on there this year. to go on out there this year. hopefully the negatives will continue. watch continue. watch the space, watch the because the disasters, okay, because they will happen. that's my prediction, he says. >> watch the space, watch the disasters. yeah, disasters. jim dale yeah, climate catastrophizing . well,

climate catastrophizing. well, maybe he's right, do you think what do you think gb views gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua live on tv, online and on digital radio now. still to come, political spotlight justin urquhart stewart. will labour be the answer failing the answer to the failing economy? but first, let's get your latest news headlines with . aaron >> it's 331. good afternoon to you aaron armstrong. here in the gb newsroom. thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown chaos after been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all trains to and from london. it's apologised because of what it says is unprecedented flooding in a number of tunnels, including under up to 35,000 under the thames, up to 35,000 passengers, have been affected, many of those were stranded at london's saint pancras station earlier and some of those have taken to social media vent taken to social media to vent their saying they their frustrations, saying they were only of the were only told of the cancellations 8:00 cancellations at 8:00 this morning . for casters are warning

morning. for casters are warning people to take care ahead of new year's celebrations. heavy rain and strong winds are expected in many the country, with many parts of the country, with parts of scotland likely to see significant levels of snow. the met office says yellow alerts will be in place until 3 am. tomorrow. police may be facing renewed scrutiny over the huge amount of crimes that haven't been solved this year. new figures reveal there were 4.7 million unsolved crimes in 2023. that's almost 86% of those reported, and 1.7 million of them were of a violent nature, with a further million down to criminal damage or arson. in many cases , police failed to many cases, police failed to find a suspect, and the uk has accused russia of deliberately targeting civilians in ukraine after its most devastating air attack since the invasion began in ukraine, says the brutality of the strikes, which killed 31 people, show there can be no sign of a truce with moscow. the united nations security council condemned the violence last night , with the condemned the violence last night, with the uk condemned the violence last

night , with the uk accusing night, with the uk accusing russia of deliberately killing innocent people . we'll have a innocent people. we'll have a full bulletin at the top of the next hour, or you can get more on our website now gbnews.com. now it's back to . nana. now it's back to. nana. >> coming up at six. 33 minutes after 3:00. coming up. it's political spotlight, but up next i've got all discussions about vaccines and doctor chris smith will be here. don't go

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> good afternoon . it's 37 >> good afternoon. it's 37 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news we are the people's channel. i'm nana o'quinn. it's time for healthwatch. fears of a measles outbreak are heightening as more and more families in the uk are reluctant to give their children the mmr vaccine. now, with requirement to with the requirement to administer two doses to children at months and three years at 12 months and three years old. the vaccine also protects against mumps rubella . so against mumps and rubella. so the question is have we lost our trust in vaccines? i'm joined now by the naked scientist. he's fully clothed, thank god, virologist doctor chris smith. chris, so to good talk to chris, it's so to good talk to you. um, now we why are people so against this mmr vaccine? what's happened to us? why are we doing this ? we doing this? >> uh, the bottom line here is that what we're seeing across the country are low levels of

uptake of the vaccine, but not everywhere in some specific places . places. >> now, let's wind back a bit. >> now, let's wind back a bit. >> the reason we're worried is because in order to protect people from really infectious diseases like measles, we need to get about 95% of the population vaccinated . population vaccinated. >> because measles is so infectious that the way we prevent it from spreading is to make the chances of someone who's got measles able to run into someone who can catch measles. so remote that it just can't maintain a chain of transmission. so it doesn't spread through the population. and in order to do that, you need our old friend herd immunity. and that means you need about 95% vaccination rates and what the uk hsa have been saying for a number of months now, they're really worried about, is that the level of uptake of vaccination in some parts of the country has fallen dramatically , and why that's dramatically, and why that's a concern is that in certain geographies, if you have really low levels of uptake , you get a low levels of uptake, you get a cluster of people where there is effectively a big enough

community that you won't just get the odd case of measles, you can have an enormous surge, an outbreak in that particular area. and london is a real hotspot. we've got below 65% uptake of protection with mmr. the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, and across the country more broadly, about 85. so we've got hot spots and we've got a lower uptake and this is adding up to a risk of an outbreak that could reach into the 100, 150,000 sorts of numbers. so a big outbreak if measles gets going and our numbers are already up on last year, if you add up how many cases we've had in 2023, we're more than 100% more cases. just in the first half of the year alone than we had in the whole of 2022. so it is beginning to move, and we are worried for that reason. >> there's a lot of people, >> but there's a lot of people, though , um, thinking though, um, are thinking possibly measles isn't that possibly that measles isn't that bad because of our bad and that because of our medicine technology, we've advanced . so even if you catch advanced. so even if you catch it, it's not to that it, it's not going to be that bad. improved our bad. have we improved our medicines, with things

medicines, dealing with things like measles and mumps , measles like measles and mumps, measles is actually a really serious infection . infection. >> and i think we're lulled into this false sense of security in the modern era that we can do anything about pretty much everything . and the bottom line everything. and the bottom line is trained me when is the guy that trained me when i a trainee doctor , he lost i was a trainee doctor, he lost a close in fact, i think his sister to measles . so he a close in fact, i think his sister to measles. so he was neverin sister to measles. so he was never in any doubt as to the seriousness of this infection. it does kill people around the world. maybe 100,000 people a year lose their lives to measles. so it is a really serious infection. and when someone gets they feel someone gets it, they feel really, really unwell. they have a high temperature , that a really high temperature, that nasty in all the nasty rash that's in all the pictures. but you get sore eyes, a bad headache, you can get bad , a bad headache, you can get bad, bad pneumonia it can also bad pneumonia and it can also cause diarrhoea and vomiting. it's a really nasty disease and it's really easy to protect with the mmr vaccine. and that's really what we're trying to do now, is to encourage people. if you've missed out on the vaccine because , as did, throw because, as covid did, throw a spanner works , there were spanner in the works, there were people dose people who got the first dose

and second dose, and didn't get the second dose, etc. now urging people, etc. we're now urging people, please you had your please, if you haven't had your child vaccinated and especially in parts of london and in certain parts of london and certain communities in london, and there are various outreach projects to try to warn people, do please urge everyone if you haven't had your child vaccinated you as an adult, vaccinated or you as an adult, don't think you're vaccinated and of and you have no history of measles, please get the measles, do please get the vaccine. can have that at vaccine. you can have that at any age really any age and it's really effective. it will give you more than 95% protection against measles , but also mumps and measles, but also mumps and rubella , which we don't want rubella, which we don't want those circulating either . those circulating either. >> and what about tb? because i hear that's on the rise as well. there's a vaccination for that as well isn't there. do you as well isn't there. and do you think should be getting think people should be getting that they had that one if they haven't had that one if they haven't had that. >> well tb is a bacterial infection , tuberculosis. and infection, tuberculosis. and dunng infection, tuberculosis. and during the time that your programme is on air, in fact, thousands of people will have caught it and hundreds to thousands of people will die every day. we lose thousands of people around the world to tb, and the evidence is about one

person in three is infected with that. really worrying that. and what's really worrying us is that we are us about tb is that we are seeing forms of that infection , seeing forms of that infection, even are multiply drug even now, that are multiply drug resistant antibiotics resistant. we've got antibiotics that don't treat some of those forms of that disease. now there is a vaccine for it, but it doesn't prevent . aren't you doesn't prevent. aren't you catching the infection ? it catching the infection? it prevents becoming severely prevents you becoming severely ill with the infection. which is why it why we've stopped giving it in countries it's of countries where it's less of a problem, like the uk, we used to give it historically to everyone about 14. we don't do about the age of 14. we don't do that threat that anymore because the threat is not there of severe disseminated disease , which goes disseminated disease, which goes to all parts of your body . but to all parts of your body. but in parts of the world is in some parts of the world it is still very much a problem. and why are up. apart why numbers are on the up. apart from problems homelessness why numbers are on the up. apart fron deprivation homelessness why numbers are on the up. apart frondeprivation more elessness and deprivation is more migration and people bring the disease with them when they move from world where from places in the world where it's prevalent , to places it's more prevalent, to places in world where less in the world where it's less prevalent if they're not prevalent. and if they're not picked the medical system, prevalent. and if they're not picani the medical system, prevalent. and if they're not pican become he medical system, prevalent. and if they're not pican become a medical system, prevalent. and if they're not pican become a meproblemtem, prevalent. and if they're not pican become a meproblem .em, it can become a big problem. >> all right. well, listen, chris, you very for chris, thank you very much for talking about good talking to me about that. good to talk to you. that is doctor

chris smith. is naked chris smith. he is the naked scientist. you can check out his podcast. virologist. scientist. you can check out his podcelots virologist. scientist. you can check out his podcelots of virologist. scientist. you can check out his podcelots of you virologist. scientist. you can check out his podcelots of you haveirologist. scientist. you can check out his podcelots of you have beenist. now. lots of you have been getting with your views getting in touch with your views on topics we've on the topics that we've been discussing. the discussing. we talked about the israel—hamas says israel—hamas war. richard says south africa is absolutely right . israel have treated the palestinians in the west bank appallingly , let alone the appallingly, let alone the totally disgusting treatment of gazans. yes, but what about the fact they're still holding the hostages? i mean, can't they release the hostages then? i mean, let's be honest here. remember reignited from remember how this reignited from october 7? that was disgusting. appalling actually. and also the charter , the hamas charter, charter, the hamas charter, which is that they want to exterminate all, all jewish people. mean , that, you know, people. i mean, that, you know, i don't know what the answer is, but you know, that needs to be taken account on taken into account on the climate eugenie says, we climate debate. eugenie says, we need be brave and need someone to be brave and talk the impact of talk about the impact of overpopulation that has had on the climate , thanks to that. and the climate, thanks to that. and malcolm says, i'm getting tired of the climate catastrophes . of all the climate catastrophes. and alarmists to and climate alarmists seem to accentuate every event in an effort to prove their climate change agenda , including yellow

change agenda, including yellow weather and named weather warnings and named storms. we'll keep all your thoughts coming. it's great to hear you. gb views out hear from you. gb views out gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. keep them coming. but if you tuned in. welcome on you just tuned in. welcome on board 44 minutes after 3:00 live on tv, online and on digital radio. but it's now time for this week's political spotlight. i'll be shining a light on the future of the british economy with the uk just skirting a recession for the most of 2023 and growth prospects still very low for 2024, i want to know will labour save the economy? well joining me now to discuss expert justin urquhart stewart. he's an economist and a founder of regional li. justin er we talked about the climate catastrophe, the economy . now catastrophe, the economy. now look at it. it's are we sliding into a recession now because the definition we have to be two courses of a shrinking economy. >> yeah. and there's about negative growth. talk english and say it's shrinking not growing. and we're not doing it yet. we're heading that way. but

actually, when you consider what's over past what's happened over the past few everything few years with everything from the covid and the wars going on and all those issues relating to the inflation coming through and interest rates going up, um, actually the global economy is in remarkable shape. having said that, though , some serious that, though, some serious issues, very bad issues , we've issues, very bad issues, we've got to try and manage our way through and britain's not in a good position, i'm afraid to say. we've built up a of say. we've built up a level of debt. we have not on one occasion, but two occasions gone back refer back to what you used to refer to money tree. to as the money tree. quantitative printing quantitative easing, printing money. keep doing money. you can't keep on doing it. they the first it. when they did it the first time, remember sitting down talking with chums of the talking with chums of mine, the bank saying, well, bank of england, saying, well, you can we? you can't do that again, can we? no can't. five later, no we can't. five years later, we're doing again. we cannot no we can't. five years later, we'reagain. again. we cannot no we can't. five years later, we'reagain. um,|ain. we cannot no we can't. five years later, we'reagain. um, and we cannot no we can't. five years later, we'reagain. um, and we'll|nnot no we can't. five years later, we'reagain. um, and we'll just: do it again. um, and we'll just lose all credibility. well what's the that can happen what's the worst that can happen if that? what's the worst that can happen if are that? what's the worst that can happen if are we hat? what's the worst that can happen if are we in:? what's the worst that can happen if are we in it at moment? >> are we in it at the moment? is it inflation? >> the economy is what you need to is actually make sure to do is actually make sure there's credible there's enough credible confidence through. there's enough credible confidedoes through. there's enough credible confidedoes confidence)ugh. there's enough credible confidedoes confidence come from? where does confidence come from? that's people that's from actually people running growing running businesses, growing businesses . now the good news

businesses. now the good news about is are about britain actually is we are very sometimes very entrepreneurial. sometimes doesn't feel like it. we tend to think the americans, they're the entrepreneurial. think the americans, they're the ent|fashioned|l. we set think the americans, they're the entmore oned|l. we set think the americans, they're the entmore businesses we set think the americans, they're the entmore businesses in we set think the americans, they're the entmore businesses in this set up more businesses in this country than france and germany put together and actually put together, and actually more entrepreneurial us entrepreneurial than many us states. what we're very bad at doing is actually financing them to . so we get them started, to grow. so we get them started, and that sort of, and then after that sort of, well, with then and well, get on with it then and what is a lot of what you find is a lot of technology companies get taken up the americans. a up by the americans. that's a cracking thank you cracking good idea. thank you very indeed. and they ship very much indeed. and they ship it california. what we it off to california. what we need to do need to be able to do is actually address that. actually try and address that. and some more and that means some more imagination financing. imagination in our financing. we've got stock exchange we've got a stock exchange in this is incredibly we've got a stock exchange in thisfashioned is incredibly we've got a stock exchange in thisfashioned , is incredibly we've got a stock exchange in thisfashioned , that; incredibly we've got a stock exchange in thisfashioned , that looks dibly we've got a stock exchange in thisfashioned , that looks after old fashioned, that looks after fantastic international businesses, which are old, big businesses. where are the new ones ? um, we have stock ones? um, we have our stock market called which was we market called aim, which was we started in glasgow started actually in glasgow nearly ago. um nearly 30 years ago. um deliberately to try and break some of the sort of cartel that there is in terms of charging, but unfortunately that hasn't succeeded. existing. but unfortunately that hasn't suc�*need d. existing. but unfortunately that hasn't suc�*need some existing. but unfortunately that hasn't suc�*need some moreaxisting. but unfortunately that hasn't suc�*need some more initiatives we need some more initiatives here people trying to come up here of people trying to come up with raising

with better ways of raising money regions. now, money around the regions. now, where want the money for? where do you want the money for? you go those of hot you go to those sort of hot clusters around the universities of companies. and, of technology companies. and, you know, we hear all these silly names like silicon roundabout and silicon glen silicon fen or silicon beach. that's brighton brownite. um, and what you've got is universities have little tech hubs and they breed, they actually produce business ideas, turn them into businesses . and turn them into businesses. and if one business if you've got one business involved in these high tech areas, they tend actually areas, they tend to actually start ones. you start producing other ones. you then need to be able to grow them into something than them into something bigger than that. that's we've that. and that's where we've been very bad at doing the that. and that's where we've been \aren't|d at doing the that. and that's where we've been \aren't geared ing the that. and that's where we've been \aren't geared up the that. and that's where we've been \aren't geared up to the that. and that's where we've been \aren't geared up to doing banks aren't geared up to doing it. the of london it. the city of london is focuses on stuff, not focuses only on large stuff, not very small stuff, they tend very small stuff, and they tend to short lending, to look at short terme lending, know equity , which know like private equity, which is give you a load debt is we'll give you a load of debt to build a business. they won't give the money, they'll give you the money, they'll borrow you. borrow the money for you. but it's borrow the money for you. but ifs youn borrow the money for you. but it's your, the debt's it's your, your, your the debt's your responsibility. and in three it three years time, we'll sell it on. three years. time too on. three years. time is too short. to have a 5 to short. you need to have a 5 to 10 year so we need some 10 year view. so we need some proper, radical, imaginative thinking to actually say, how

can do this? there is no can we do this? there is no shortage of money. need shortage of money. you need people to down people to sit down at you, educate treasury also educate the treasury and also some of the bankers take a longer tum view . we've got some longer tum view. we've got some things here. the british business and people business bank and people beginning that. beginning to think like that. but needs be done on a but it needs to be done on a broader across the country. >> but they're charge of it. >> but they're in charge of it. why they? they should be why do they? they should be educated this anyway. educated on this anyway. and what about the conservative party? mean, i don't know party? i mean, i don't know whether i'd say they've handled the all the economy well. we've had all these you've talked these things that you've talked about, we about, but now we have a prospect a labour government prospect of a labour government that, out with a 28 that, um, who came out with a 28 billion year investment deal billion a year investment deal for green jobs and green investment, and, of course , the investment, and, of course, the city ran scared of that because they thought it might destabilise the economy . so how destabilise the economy. so how do think the labour party do you think the labour party will be running economy with will be running the economy with some of plans you've heard some of the plans you've heard from well, what they've from them? well, what they've got is make sure got to be doing is make sure they ability and they get credit ability and that's where actually they get credit ability and that'sblair where actually they get credit ability and that'sblair and where actually they get credit ability and that'sblair and brown actually they get credit ability and that'sblair and brown were lly they get credit ability and that'sblair and brown were very tony blair and brown were very good at. >> they >> and they had the prawn cocktail campaign for two years before they to power. they before they came to power. they went city and they went round the city and they sort actually, look, sort of said, actually, look, i know wearing but

know we're wearing red, but actually that sort know we're wearing red, but ac'red.y that sort know we're wearing red, but ac' red. we're that sort know we're wearing red, but ac'red. we're actuallythat sort know we're wearing red, but ac'red. we're actually going�*rt know we're wearing red, but ac' red. we're actually going to of red. we're actually going to make sure we're going to support the city. i remember he then made of england made the bank of england independent. right. independent. yeah. right. okay. but but would but nonetheless, um, but would they at they they gain credibility at they they gain credibility at the the labour team don't the moment the labour team don't quite have that credibility. not at the behind it. at all. the strength behind it. therefore, we trust them therefore, would we trust them to it. one of the problems to do it. one of the problems i've got years ago, you used to go to treasury . remember the go to the treasury. remember the days, privatisation and days, the privatisation and these were like, yes , these people were like, uh, yes, minister. and, you know, so you had civil servant who had had the civil servant who had been there for donkey's years, always in the same department, but or she but he knew or she knew everything was going everything that was going on. now modern now they've adopted modern hr techniques . so they go from this techniques. so they go from this job to two years, they go to pensions and they go to foreign office they go, they're so office and they go, they're so very people, very bright people, expert in nothing. what nothing. whereas actually what you to be i'm sorry, you want people to be i'm sorry, you want people to be i'm sorry, you may be dull, but that's you're really good at doing the treasury don't have you're really good at doing the treazexpertise don't have you're really good at doing the treazexpertise . don't have you're really good at doing the treazexpertise . and don't have you're really good at doing the treazexpertise . and if»n't have you're really good at doing the treazexpertise . and if laboure that expertise. and if labour doesn't enough that doesn't have enough of that expertise we're sort expertise, we're sort of fumbling in the dark rather, what see from them is what i want to see from them is where is the credible creation ,

where is the credible creation, not just of green jobs, but the overall economy to get more money invested in the economy, to actually make sure that money is invested and is going to be invested and redeveloped. the moment, redeveloped. and at the moment, i can't quite that it sounds i can't quite see that it sounds a like trying do the a bit bit like trying to do the same um, but they've got same again. um, but they've got to careful if they seem to be to be careful if they seem to be too then everyone too radical. then everyone stares backwards and says, i don't believe you. >> yes, truss, it's >> yes, like liz truss, it's very difficult. >> what they need to is >> what they need to have is a few more people around them, sort saying, actually, sort of saying, actually, this these work have sort of saying, actually, this these support. work have sort of saying, actually, this these support. wthey have sort of saying, actually, this these support. wthey need ve be some support. so they need to be in middle ground and in the middle ground and remember, this is what, whether you blair that's you like blair or not, that's how the election, took how we won the election, took the middle ground. were the middle ground. tories were shoved over to that side and um, and to actually, and they were able to actually, you get the credibility you know, get the credibility whether were whether you thought they were any economy or any good with the economy or not. so different well not. so different issue. well what i mean, truss has what about i mean, liz truss has recently out load of recently dished out a load of honours 49 day premiership. >> bless her, i thought they treated badly. if i'm treated her very badly. if i'm honest. she right with honest. but was she right with her vision economy and her vision of the economy and the she used? the tactics that she used? because people say, because a lot of people say, oh, she wrong, but yet she got it all wrong, but yet they to be employing they appear to be employing a lot of the policies that she tried to initiate.

>> yeah. said, quite >> yeah. she said, quite rightly, to have rightly, you need to have economy's growth. economy's got to have growth. yeah course it has. and economy's got to have growth. yeah statinge it has. and economy's got to have growth. yeah stating stunningly d that's stating stunningly obvious. what she was obvious. no. what she did was actually and short actually just try and short circuit everything and say, right, up a plan circuit everything and say, rightwhere up a plan circuit everything and say, rightwhere we'll up a plan circuit everything and say, rightwhere we'll up taxesa plan circuit everything and say, rightwhere we'll up taxes and n circuit everything and say, right'beere we'll up taxes and n circuit everything and say, right'be ablea'll up taxes and n circuit everything and say, right'be ablea'llput taxes and n circuit everything and say, right'be able a'llput the es and n we'll be able to put the investment in and, and not show how to fund but how you're going to fund it. but if you don't actually then go to the who normally to the bodies who normally go to like budget like the office of budget responsibility sign responsibility and say, sign this off for then you're this off for me, then you're going some and going to have some problems. and so the so by not going through the normal, normal rules, they don't get credibility. why get the credibility. that's why dispensary. so the fact she's saying they're saying we saying that they're saying we need have that's need to have growth. that's perfectly right. it's the way she about because she she went about it because she didn't she didn't. didn't fund it. no she didn't. and everybody and didn't persuade everybody that we've been that actually look, we've been we've everybody . we we've checked with everybody. we checked numbers. this checked the numbers. this is actually work i'm actually going to work out, i'm afraid was too in afraid it looks it was too in much a rush, quick. and much of a rush, too quick. and so, know , don't play magic so, you know, don't play magic tncks so, you know, don't play magic tricks they'll tricks with the city. they'll just round and say, don't just turn round and say, don't believe go away. so who's in believe you go away. so who's in control then? >> it looks like the >> if it looks to me like the city are in control and the government really don't have much they? much power at all, do they? >> the problem is there's much power at all, do they? >> so the problem is there's much power at all, do they? >> so muchproblem is there's much power at all, do they? >> so much youlem is there's much power at all, do they? >> so much you can is there's much power at all, do they? >> so much you can actually;

only so much you can actually do. can more money. do. you can raise more money. but raise more money, but if you raise more money, okay, going get okay, how are you going to get that from? if you're going to, who going to actually who are you going to actually tax? to be to tax? what you need to be able to do hence point of growth. do is hence the point of growth. get speed of get more velocity, speed of money economy, more money through the economy, more people spending, be companies money through the economy, more peindividuals ng, be companies money through the economy, more peindividuals in, be companies money through the economy, more peindividuals in order companies money through the economy, more peindividuals in order to�*mpanies money through the economy, more peindividuals in order to do anies or individuals in order to do that, confidence. if that, you need confidence. if you money going you do that, more money going through, government's you do that, more money going throtit1, government's you do that, more money going throtit always government's you do that, more money going throtit always skimsvernment's you do that, more money going throtit always skims arnment's you do that, more money going throtit always skims a little 1t's take it always skims a little bit off. that more tax income. >> it's all a confidence trick really, it? all it really, isn't it? that's all it is. this if it's whole thing is. this is if it's whole thing is. this is if it's whole thing is what about tell people is what about if you tell people actually the economy's actually look, the economy's got risks and this that and the other. >> look @ look we're f.— >> but look what we're doing. the economy growing slowly >> but look what we're doing. the steadily. growing slowly >> but look what we're doing. the steadily. gro not; slowly >> but look what we're doing. the steadily. gro not; slowito and steadily. we're not going to go rocket. we're go off like a rocket. we're a mature economy. we're setting up businesses, give the businesses, give people the confidence going confidence to say, i'm going to set a business that's a very set up a business that's a very brave do, because set up a business that's a very brave risking do, because set up a business that's a very brave risking yourbecause set up a business that's a very brave risking yourbecaus and you're risking your house and the and everything will the family and everything will be assets you've been be all the assets you've been putting people putting up. give people a confidence and do that, putting up. give people a confyou'll and do that, putting up. give people a confyou'll be and do that, putting up. give people a confyou'll be surprised) that, putting up. give people a confyou'll be surprised what , putting up. give people a confyou'll be surprised what can and you'll be surprised what can happen. we actually seen happen. we have actually seen around is not around britain. this is not a south east issue. this around south east issue. this is around around britain. lots of these technology help them technology centres and help them grow, give the confidence grow, give them the confidence to not necessarily to grow and not necessarily necessarily with them. to grow and not necessarily nece them' with them. to grow and not necessarily nece them the with them. to grow and not necessarily nece them the tax with them. to grow and not necessarily nece them the tax benefitsiem.

to grow and not necessarily nece them the tax benefits to 1. to grow and not necessarily nece them the tax benefits to be give them the tax benefits to be able long terme tax able to grow long terme tax benefits, to actually there benefits, to actually sit there and capital gains tax, you and say capital gains tax, you can your capital gains very can keep your capital gains very briefly, justin. >> a or briefly, justin. >> then just a yes or no interest rates, are they going up down. where they going interest rates, are they going up year.n. where they going interest rates, are they going up they'lll. where they going interest rates, are they going up they'll startere they going interest rates, are they going up they'll start going they going interest rates, are they going up they'll start going down.going >> they'll start going down. they'll down they'll go down gone down already . but you weren't they'll go down gone down already attention,)u weren't they'll go down gone down alreadyattention, reallyen't they'll go down gone down already attention, really justin paying attention, really justin urquhart stewart, thank you very much, economist much, of course, is economist expert urquhart stewart, expert justin urquhart stewart, which he should doing which i think he should be doing something with the government and because, and helping them out because, you they do . you know, more than they do. >> stay tuned >> well, listen, stay tuned because i'll be because coming up, i'll be joined amazing and joined by my amazing panel. and today it's christine hamilton and danny kelly. up next, my and danny kelly. and up next, my monologue new years monologue on the new years honours truss comes honours list as liz truss comes under releasing her own under fire for releasing her own and a senior boss who vets senior white male recruits, is offered damehood first, offered a damehood first, though, let's get some weather. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there i welcome to your >> hello there! welcome to your latest jp news weather forecast i'm craig snell looking ahead to new year's eve. for many of us really we're going see really we're going to see a mixture of spells and

mixture of sunny spells and heavy showers. still quite windy . and that's all courtesy of this area of low pressure which is going slowly move is only going to slowly move across country we go across the country as we go through weekend. through this weekend. note the tightly packed isobars, especially the south, so especially across the south, so some and gusty winds, some strong and gusty winds, especially as we go through the course today and tonight as course of today and tonight as we go into the evening, this band of heavy and squally rain will spread its way eastwards . will spread its way eastwards. behind it, a mixture of clear spells and scattered showers that rain quite persistent later on in the night, across shetland and orkney. but for many temperatures still above freezing could just see a touch of frost across scotland, where we still will see a little bit of sleet and snow into new year's eve itself. generally a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers. showers mainly focussed across the west initially before transferring their way eastwards during the course of the day. some heavy, possibly thundery showers too, and note across shetland and orkney that rain continuing to persist . the best of the persist. the best of the conditions as we see at 2023,

looks likely to be across the far north of scotland. new year's day itself for many southern areas, actually a much better day to come. some sunshine here. good opportunity to get out and about further north. continuation of the sunshine and showers theme and that continues as we go through the first days of the new year. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome onboard. this is a gb news we are the people's channel. there's loads more still to come in the

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news with sophia. >> good morning. this is sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . wenzler in the gb newsroom. >> thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all trains to and from london. the company apologised after what it said was unprecedented flooding in a number of tunnels, including under the thames, up to 35,000 passengers have been affected , passengers have been affected, with many left stranded at london saint pancras station . london saint pancras station. some have taken to social media to vent their frustrations , to vent their frustrations, saying they were only told of the cancellation plans at 8:00 this morning. the cancellation plans at 8:00 this morning . and forecasters this morning. and forecasters are warning people to take care ahead of new year celebrations as heavy rain and strong winds are expected in many parts of the country , with parts of the country, with parts of scotland likely to see significant levels of snow . the significant levels of snow. the met office says yellow alerts are in place until 3 am. tomorrow for. police may be facing renewed scrutiny over the huge amount of crimes that

haven't been solved this year. new figures reveal there were 4.7 million unsolved crimes in 2023. that's almost 86% of those reported. 1.7 million were of a violent nature , with a further violent nature, with a further million down to criminal damage or arson in many cases, police failed to find a suspect. labour says the conservatives record on solving crimes is disgraceful and has accused the government of letting criminals off and victims down. the uk has accused russia of deliberately targeting civilians in ukraine after its most devastating air attack since the invasion began. ukraine says the brutality of the strikes, which killed 31 people, shows there can be no talk of a truce with moscow president volodymyr zelenskyy said russia used everything in its arsenal , firing around 110 its arsenal, firing around 110 missiles at targets, including a maternity hospital. the united nafions maternity hospital. the united nations security council condemned the violence last night , with the condemned the violence last night, with the uk's representative , barbara representative, barbara woodward, accusing russia of

deliberately killing innocent people . people. >> these missiles were aimed at population centres across ukraine at kyiv, lviv . to ukraine at kyiv, lviv. to dnipro, aiden to kharkiv , dnipro, aiden to kharkiv, kaminski and many more cities . kaminski and many more cities. they struck homes , apartment they struck homes, apartment buildings, shopping centres and metros and maternity hospital and a regional oncology centre have been damaged . in short, have been damaged. in short, civil alien infrastructure . civil alien infrastructure. >> a 23 year old man has appeared in court charged with the murder of chris marriott, who was hit by a car in sheffield . the father of two was sheffield. the father of two was with his family when he tried to help lying unconscious help a woman lying unconscious in wednesday. he in the street on wednesday. he was killed when a car ploughed into crowd. 23 year old into a small crowd. 23 year old hassan jangir is also facing five counts of attempted murder . five counts of attempted murder. he is due to appear at sheffield crown court on tuesday . crown court on tuesday.

shameless cronyism and a slap in the face to working people. just two criticisms of liz truss's resignation honours list. brits shortest serving prime minister has handed out 11 peerages to political allies, tory donors and former aides, which amounts to around one for every four days in office. labour says honours should be for public service, not rewarding tory failure. liz truss resigned last october after 49 days amid economic turmoil sparked by her so—called mini—budget meanwhile, dame shirley bassey has been given the highest award in the king's new honours list . the king's new honours list. the legendary singer is the 64th living member of the order of the companions of honour. in recognition of her services to music, its limited to 65 members at any one time. dame shirley has sold 135 million records worldwide and glasgow festival founder michael eavis and wetherspoons boss tim martin are

among those knighted . and there among those knighted. and there are damehoods for author gillian cooper and mp siobhan mcdonagh and life coaches and running clubs will be recommended to those on long terme sick leave to get people back to work. doctors employers and job centres will be encouraged to suggest therapeutic recreation such as gardening or cooking clubs , in an effort to reduce clubs, in an effort to reduce the number of people signed off work . a pilot scheme called work work. a pilot scheme called work well will see the concept tested in 15 areas before it's expanded nationally . this is gb news nationally. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's return to . nana to. nana >> thank you sophia. it's fast approaching five minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. the people's channel. i'm nana akua . well, it's all about the akua. well, it's all about the honours today. and there were, in my view, some well deserved.

you had dame shirley bassey, who becomes a companion of the order. she's now the 64th living member of the order. the brilliant jilly cooper i love her, she becomes a dame for her services to literature and charity . i can remember being charity. i can remember being addicted to her books at school. sir ridley scott becomes a knight grand cross and mary earps, who's cleaning up this yeah earps, who's cleaning up this year. she also gets an honour. but much of the awards appears to be rewards for failure because on the list, the x passport office boss abby tierney, who carried on working partly from home despite a 700,000 processing backlog . 700,000 processing backlog. she's been given a companion of the order of the bath. the second highest honour to damehood . she was recognised for damehood. she was recognised for pubuc damehood. she was recognised for public service despite presiding over failure , which meant that over failure, which meant that thousands had holiday plans ruined. she was also responsible for processing asylum applications , which at the time applications, which at the time had an over 100,000 backlog. and

of course, she was in charge of stopping the boats . well, well, stopping the boats. well, well, that's gone well , she admitted that's gone well, she admitted to a commons committee that 96% of asylum applications from arrivals in 2021 were still awaiting a decision . awaiting a decision. congratulations to her. can i be on the list? those giving out honours include liz truss, who was defenestrated by her party within 49 days. i mean, there are a lot of people arguing whether she should be giving anything out. she originally had 14 people on her list, which basically works out an honour for every three and a half days of her premiership . but only 11 of her premiership. but only 11 were accepted. some argue that tony blair and gordon brown did not have a resignation honours list, so why should she? they served for considerably longer, but then in tony blair's case, he had just got over the he had only just got over the cash for honours, probably cash for honours, so it probably wouldn't been good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way been good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i been good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see been good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see itaen good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see it is] good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see it is , good look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see it is , lizood look. cash for honours, so it probably wou way i see it is , liz truss»ok. the way i see it is, liz truss was extracted from her party in a very unsavoury manner. she was humiliated because they wanted sunak. humiliated because they wanted sunak . she blamed for the sunak. she was blamed for the market and the subsequent

market crash and the subsequent mortgage increases. the latter any economist would have any good economist would have told needed to happen anyway told you needed to happen anyway . they . and her policies, whilst they may been presented an may have been presented in an incorrect manner and now being pursued her party, many who pursued by her party, many who argue that she was actually right, on right, even her focus on childcare was being adopted by laboun childcare was being adopted by labour. liz gave out honours to her loyalists like matthew elliott, the former chief executive for vote leave. alex alec shelbrooke mp, who was knighted. he served as her junior defence minister and her close friend jackie doyle. prince the mp for thurrock, also got an honour on recommendation to the king by rishi sajid javid will be knighted. why . not to the king by rishi sajid javid will be knighted. why. not on the revolving carousel of jobs? he held six cabinet roles and some would argue , was the some would argue, was the linchpin because as soon as he resigned under the boris leadership , rishi followed and leadership, rishi followed and the whole thing fell apart. then on labour's side, margaret beckett, dame margaret beckett becomes a dame grand cross. whatever that means. after

serving 40 years. but she was the one that nominated jeremy corbyn as party leader, which even she describes as the worst mistake of her life. we forgive her, but as a result, boris johnson got an 80 seat majority. why give her another honour? an outside politics aviva boss amanda blanc for her services to business, gender equality and net zero. she ensures that shortlists aren't full of white men. great work if you can get it. but what happened to the meritocracy ? and what exactly meritocracy? and what exactly does she do for the net zero bit? what a joke. look if they want to carry on with these honours , which i think on honours, which i think on balance are a great thing, but do they want it to carry on or have some sort of credibility? i think it needs a reboot because many on the list are being rewarded for their abject failure . so before we get stuck failure. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the

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email gb views gbnews.com or tweet at . gb news. all right. tweet me at. gb news. all right. it's just gone ten nine minutes after 4:00. right. let's get started . let's welcome again to started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcaster and journalist danny kenny, and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. hello. hey, you hamilton. hello hello. hey, you two, what are you doing here? you know, here on a saturday. get out. i'm here on saturday because i wanted tomorrow off. >> because i'm going to a jolly good party tomorrow night. >> you're always in this >> you're always party in this woman. never stops partying woman. she never stops partying and it's to great and drinking. and it's to great be partying . be here drinking, partying. >> no, thank you very much indeed. and you cut it fine, didn't you during the. didn't you got here during the. >> don't mention trains to me . >> don't mention trains to me. >> don't mention trains to me. >> a blockage on >> there was a blockage on the line, instead setting out line, so instead of setting out going which is what i have going east, which is what i have to do from i live to here, going east, which is what i have to

than the poor guy who was apparently a train. apparently hit by a train. oh, god. something god. no, that's something i think i'm not sure. oh poor think so i'm not sure. oh poor thing. oh, dear. that's awful. right. that terrible thing. oh, dear. that's awful. right. know. that terrible thing. oh, dear. that's awful. right. know. oh, at terrible thing. oh, dear. that's awful. right. know. oh, let'srible thing. oh, dear. that's awful. right. know. oh, let's talk note, i know. oh, let's talk about list. about the honours list. i'm going with you. let's going to start with you. let's start danny. start with danny. >> always to be >> you're always going to be controversial whenever politicians are nominated. listen, it's a prime ministerial convention. >> she was here for 40 odd days, and then dark force forced her out and all of that. >> so do you believe that? do you think? well, i yeah, i think yeah, it wasn't very nice. >> i think rishi sunak was the prodigal son that needed to come home and needed charge. home and needed to be in charge. and the, the, the, and she was the, the, the, the, the so anyway, back to the fall guy. so anyway, back to convention. prime ministerial convention. prime ministerial convention. she nominated, convention. prime ministerial convei14, n. she nominated, convention. prime ministerial convei14, 15, she nominated, convention. prime ministerial convei14, 15, 11 she nominated, convention. prime ministerial convei14, 15, 11 were; nominated, convention. prime ministerial convei14, 15, 11 were accepted. ed, what, 14, 15, 11 were accepted. bofis what, 14, 15, 11 were accepted. boris johnson, who had a much longer time at the helm, a tenure he nominated 40 odd. so i don't begrudge liz truss nominating no. and this is always some critics will always say it's incestuous and opponents of brexit will always say, oh no, he's been nominated . say, oh no, he's been nominated. he was the mastermind, the architect. he was the man in

charge of vote leave and everything. people need to get over the pathological hatred of people voted for brexit, people who voted for brexit, and they need to sort of detach they just need to sort of detach themselves because themselves emotionally because it's not good for their mental health. and they just need to say, of year, say, okay, at this time of year, politicians incestuously will nominate people i don't like and ineed nominate people i don't like and i need to just get on with my life and over it. it's only life and get over it. it's only going the news for 3 or going to be in the news for 3 or 4 days, but everyone is for being nominated, so sit being nominated, so you'll sit in house lords, you'll in the house of lords, you'll take £300 a day when take money over £300 a day when you're there. >> depends you're >> it depends what you're rewarded doesn't rewarded with, though, doesn't it? people may get >> some people may get a lordship or the peerage. >> okay, look at tony blair, >> okay, so look at tony blair, for . >> okay, so look at tony blair, for we . >> okay, so look at tony blair, for we to look at everyone >> we need to look at everyone has a blemish record okay. has a has a blemish record okay. tony blair who was knighted in when was it 2021. two. >> who knows. who cares okay. >> who knows. who cares okay. >> but who cares exactly . >> but who cares exactly. >> but who cares exactly. >> his his biggest >> his his his his biggest achievements was peace in northern ireland. the minimum wage for lgbt equal wage rights for lgbt equal rights. when it came to marriage, things like that. and his biggest well, i think a terrible things would be afghanistan and iraq . yeah. i

afghanistan and iraq. yeah. i mean, the second invasion of iraq, of course, warmongering had do with him. so had nothing to do with him. so everyone has an unblemished or a blemish record, i should say. and we look at and i think we need to look at the picture when comes the bigger picture when it comes to appointments. the bigger picture when it comes to christine ppointments. the bigger picture when it comes to christine hamilton1ts. the bigger picture when it comes to christine hamilton well, >> christine hamilton well, i think let's look down the think let's let's look down the scale, shall we? >> the people at the bottom of the ladies. the heap, the lollipop. ladies. et the real et cetera, et cetera. the real hard working backbone of this country minor awards. country who get minor awards. yeah.i country who get minor awards. yeah. i wouldn't want to do away with that at all. and as for liz truss, there's so many things to unpick here. as for liz truss, i mean, ministers have been mean, prime ministers have been handing awards george mean, prime ministers have been handthem awards george mean, prime ministers have been handthem like lards george mean, prime ministers have been handthem like sweets george mean, prime ministers have been handthem like sweets for george sold them like sweets for heaven's sake. david cameron gave to family's gave one to his family's hairdresser , for goodness sake. hairdresser, for goodness sake. so truss , i think this was so liz truss, i think this was liz truss saying , so liz truss, i think this was liz truss saying, i'm going to get my own you got rid of get my own back. you got rid of me. don't think i should have me. i don't think i should have been a lot of people been got rid of. a lot of people now what i was pushing now say that what i was pushing forward right. i'm jolly. forward was right. i'm jolly. we're to i'm we're going to do it. i'm entitled to it. i the entitled to do it. i was the prime minister. going put prime minister. i'm going to put them put forward, them forward. she put forward, for david hills, who for example, david hills, who is her chairman. he her association chairman. he will done a hell a lot will have done a hell of a lot for shouldn't she put

for her. why shouldn't she put him? she's got him? not for she's not got a period. just got an honour period. she's just got an honour of sort. why not? i think of some sort. why not? i think she's perfectly entitled to. i pity she's perfectly entitled to. i pity example, one of the pity for example, one of the ones didn't through ones who didn't get through was mark the mark littlewood, who was the head of iea, and i think he head of the iea, and i think he would have a wonderful would have been a wonderful addition to the house of lords. there was so much dead wood in that if we can that place. i mean, if we can replace some of the rubbish that's there, but as of you that's there, but as one of you said, are there for life. said, they are there for life. and they turn up, they get and if they turn up, they get 300 a day. so i don't 300 or 350 a day. so i don't blame liz truss at all. i think good for her. you mentioned savage javid. i don't have any time for him at all, but he was the very first asian to hold british, asian to hold a great office of state. he was home secretary , but so what he was. secretary, but so what he was. but so what. but this is the system. >> but so what system? what's that got to do? none of us like awards given to people that got to do? none of us like awarwe given to people that got to do? none of us like awarwe don't given to people that got to do? none of us like awarwe don't approve people that got to do? none of us like awarwe don't approve of ople that got to do? none of us like awarwe don't approve of oplwe that we don't approve of or we don't like, that is the system. >> and danny's right. we just have to sit back. >> do sit back like them all. >> i don't see anything wrong with sajid javid getting an

award. >> i just. award. >> ijust. but award. >> i just. but but the whole thing then resulted in then rishi and then boris rishi sunak went and then boris johnson was, you know, taken out. and, know, i just wait out. and, you know, i just wait for they haven't done a good job. i just find that really i think the bigger honours should be given to more of the general public. um, i, i don't begrudge liz truss at all. i don't like the way she was treated. think the way she was treated. i think it and as a it was disgusting. and as a member the public watching member of the public watching that, i thought they were awful to some ideas. to her. she had some good ideas. she needed training she maybe needed some training on things, and on how to deliver things, and they been more they could have been more helpful, didn't helpful, but they just didn't want helpful, but they just didn't warthey didn't her. they >> they didn't want her. they established that, didn't they didn't wanted didn't want her. they wanted their and my their boy rishi. and my goodness, his his goodness, he had his he had his sunblock ready, didn't he just defence javid, he he would sunblock ready, didn't he just defence be javid, he he would sunblock ready, didn't he just defence be really, he he would sunblock ready, didn't he just defence be really annoyed ould sunblock ready, didn't he just defence be really annoyed atld he would be really annoyed at the implication that the only reason given this new reason he was given this new years was because was years exactly was because he was asian. say because he years exactly was because he was asiaasian. say because he was asian. >> no, he was the first >> no, because he was the first asian was first asian though. he was the first asian though. he was the first asian cabinet. asian member of the cabinet. >> why that significant though? >> well, of course it's significant. a milestone. significant. it's a milestone. diane was first black diane abbott was the first black member don't member of parliament. i don't think get award for that. think you get an award for that.

it a milestone that we why it is a milestone that we why not know, but not recognise it? i know, but he's being recognised for he's not being recognised for being first the cabinet. >> he's recognised for the cabinet. >> h he's recognised for the cabinet. >> h he's done.acognised for the cabinet. >> h he's done. it)gnised for the cabinet. >> h he's done. it just ;ed for the cabinet. >> h he's done. it just so for the work he's done. it just so happens to be okay that he may be. >> that's my point. >> that's my point. >> i agree with the positioning in i it. agree in that. yeah, i get it. i agree with positioning well. with that positioning as well. >> i think i don't know what >> i think he i don't know what he's has gone to the lords. >> oh he's been knighted actually he'd be knighted i think actually he'd be knighted i thiryou know, nothing with >> you know, nothing goes with being knighted. want to being knighted. if you want to call bauble, sir, or being knighted. if you want to call or bauble, sir, or being knighted. if you want to call or whatever, uble, sir, or being knighted. if you want to call or whatever, you�*, sir, or being knighted. if you want to call or whatever, you don't)r being knighted. if you want to call or whatever, you don't get lady or whatever, you don't get a job for life. you don't get, you know, sort of legislative, a job for life. you don't get, you i;now, sort of legislative, a job for life. you don't get, you i;now, to�*t of legislative, a job for life. you don't get, you i;now, to�*t of l i think a lot of people in there that as well. yeah. may i just yeah. may | just >> may i just say one? you briefly mentioned her, jilly coopen briefly mentioned her, jilly cooper. don't we all adore jilly cooper? who will cooper? i'll tell you who will be that. and be so thrilled about that. and that her absolute best that one of her absolute best buddies she buddies is queen camilla. she will love that. >> i read every single one of her boarding school, her books at my boarding school, and just like, you know, and it was just like, you know, come i'm just come on, i'll be like, i'm just gonna this jolly super gonna read this book jolly super jilly loved her. who do jilly cooper i loved her. who do you what about nadine? you think? what about nadine? doris? she was going to get something, she didn't. in something, but she didn't. in the taken off the end, she was taken off a list. my goodness. you

list. oh my goodness. do you think something? think she deserves something? she'd politics for she'd been in politics for almost years. almost 20 years. >> what? her. >> well, what? her. >> well, what? her. >> her achievements. wonder >> her achievements. i wonder what her what would you say her achievement, way. achievement, given the way. >> some of the >> given the way some of the people who've been given handed out. doris had out. i think nadine doris had a much is the wrong much greater right. is the wrong word. the house of word. but to be in the house of lords and a hell of a lot of other people, some who on other people, some who are on this gone this list and some who've gone in before. so i think nadine has some justification for feeling a bit miffed. boris wanted bit miffed. and boris wanted to put why shouldn't she ? put her in. why shouldn't she? liz has put all these liz truss has put all these people in. mean, is the people in. i mean, this is the system got either we system we've got either we change we go with it and change it or we go with it and we okay, i don't approve of we say, okay, i don't approve of that you approve of that one. you don't approve of that one. you don't approve of that this is what we've that one. but this is what we've got. >> it was a bureaucrat sort of era, as it were, as to why she's not or don't know not in there or i don't know what that don't know why, what that i don't know why, but i just we're on i just say just whilst we're on it, have 10s just to it, if we have 10s just to indulge having lunch indulge me, i was having lunch with year old father with my 90 year old father yesterday. >> his father the cbe . he >> his father got the cbe. he was the tin hat mayor. was known as the tin hat mayor. he a fighter and he was a fire fighter and the mayor bootle liverpool. mayor of bootle in liverpool. and used to and during the blitz he used to put his tin hat on and he used to go into burning buildings and

drag out alive. whilst drag people out alive. whilst he was bootle, the tin was the mayor of bootle, the tin hat and we're very proud hat mayor. and we're very proud of sylvester kelly. hat mayor. and we're very proud of so sylvester kelly. hat mayor. and we're very proud of so sylv something. oh >> so he got something. oh that's these are the sort that's one of these are the sort of people that i want to get these. >> my mum got the m.b.e. for her war at ministry defence. >> see, that's the sort >> see, that's that's the sort of want. not some of of thing we want. not some of these politicians we either these politicians who we either change or we go with these politicians who we either cha fact or we go with these politicians who we either cha fact that or we go with these politicians who we either cha fact that people»r we go with these politicians who we either cha fact that people wee go with these politicians who we either cha fact that people we don't vith the fact that people we don't like don't approve of, and whose views approve of views we don't approve of get things. get things. well, they can get stuff, but it doesn't be stuff, but it doesn't have to be some highest honours and some of the highest honours and things listen, if things like that. but listen, if you've just tuned in, what do you've just tuned in, what do you it's minutes after you've just tuned in, what do you thist's minutes after you've just tuned in, what do you thist's newses after you've just tuned in, what do you this t's news on after you've just tuned in, what do you thist's news on tv,r 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online on digital radio. i'm online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming it's royal nana akua coming up. it's royal roundup 11 will be here roundup time and 11 will be here to give the from to give us the latest from behind palace walls. lots on behind the palace walls. lots on the king the menu including king charles's honours charles's new year's honours list. makes list. plus princess anne makes a very comment very rare comment about her sister queen camilla. sister in law, queen camilla. loads up next, it's loads more. but up next, it's time for the great british debate hour. i'm debate this hour. and i'm asking, our police asking, is our police force broken i've a broken beyond repair? i've got a poll now on ecs asking poll up right now on ecs asking you very question. is our you that very question. is our police force broken beyond repair ? send me your thoughts. repair? send me your thoughts. email gb views gb news. com tell

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discussing the honours list . discussing the honours list. let's what of you have let's see what some of you have been susan says congrats let's see what some of you have be tim. susan says congrats let's see what some of you have betim. he susan says congrats let's see what some of you have betim. he deservessays congrats let's see what some of you have betim. he deserves this congrats let's see what some of you have betim. he deserves this honour.; to tim. he deserves this honour. they missed out on nigel again. nigel farage you could have got something. most of these people who don't deserve something. most of these people thraeme don't deserve something. most of these people wh graeme says. don't deserve something. most of these people wh graeme says. anotherieserve it. graeme says. another farcical new year's honours list. it should be honour people that work, helping others , that work, helping others, police, ambulance, doctors, nurses etc. that's exactly how i feel about it as well. i totally agree with you and jackie says it's a joke that the highest honour has been given for music. well music is good though, isn't it? the food of love, of music. be the food love. play on be the food of love. play on right, says 23. after four. it's time the british time now for the great british debate. hour. and i'm debate. this hour. and i'm asking, police force asking, is our police force broken now ? broken beyond repair now? damning watchdog report found broken beyond repair now? dam more natchdog report found broken beyond repair now? dam more than dog report found broken beyond repair now? dam more than half �*eport found broken beyond repair now? dam more than half ofort found broken beyond repair now? dam more than half of coppers! that more than half of coppers are failing to investigate crimes properly, with 22 of the 43 forces in england and wales which were investigated being deemed inadequate or requiring improvement. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is our police force broken beyond repair? well,

joining me now are justin urquhart stewart met detective police. uh uh peter bleksley also joins me, steve simon harding, former senior investigating officer at the met police um, is also with me as well, i think. i feel like i've missed someone. norman it's you. yes, norman. he was a police officer and campaigner for law and order. well, okay, i'm going to with you, simon. uh, to start with you, simon. uh, first of all, what do you think needs to change? because i'm imagining that your answer to this is that. well do you think it's broken beyond repair? i don't think it's broken beyond repair, but we're talking about this year ago. repair, but we're talking about this! year ago. repair, but we're talking about this! think ago. repair, but we're talking about this! think injo. repair, but we're talking about this! think in november, suella >> i think in november, suella braverman to that braverman brought up to say that half forces were inadequate. >> it, but then you're >> it, um, but then you're starting to see. >> well, what we're hoping to see was was a change. see then was was a change. >> rowley came out and >> sir mark rowley came out and said these different said all these different changes are in make it better. >> investigations are going to increase. >> investigations are going to increaseyet >> investigations are going to increase yet we're back to the >> um, yet we're back to the same again. same conversation again. >> i think you strip >> and i think when you strip away certain which don't away certain crimes which don't have forensic or or

have forensic or cctv or witnesses or lines of inquiry, obviously there might not be that ability to take it any further. but what we're actually seeing is cases close where there are leads, there are cctv, there are leads, there are cctv, there is the ability to investigate. and i think that seems have over seems to have changed over the years. the good. years. and not for the good. >> yeah . but, uh, peter, i'm >> yeah. but, uh, peter, i'm going to you because going to come to you because there's lot of things there's been a lot of things going just the fact that going on, not just the fact that i think the police need more i think the police do need more money, been money, but there's been corruption. there's also corruption. i mean, there's also been continuing with lots of other problems as well . what do other problems as well. what do you believe needs to happen, and do you think it is broken? do you think we can repair it by and large, british policing is in crisis. >> if you're unfortunate enough to be the victim of phone theft, bike theft , domestic burglary, bike theft, domestic burglary, car theft, be a shopkeeper or the elephant in the room. fraud a millions of people fall victim to all those crimes. >> then the police are an irrelevant see, because you will not get an investigation. so the police are utterly irrelevant . police are utterly irrelevant. >> and then, just to add insult

to injury, the police have subcontracted the investigation of those crimes back to the victims because when you bring it up to report it, they say, do you know who did it? >> you've got any cc, tv, they want victims to investigate their own crimes. want victims to investigate their own crimes . which is why their own crimes. which is why when i speak to so many people who are victims of crime and i say to them, did you report it to the police? they say , what's to the police? they say, what's the point ? and that is the the point? and that is the pathetic state of british policing today . policing today. >> is it beyond repair there, in your view? >> i'd like to think not. if you are unfortunate enough to get murdered, then you will get a very well resourced, robust , very well resourced, robust, professional investigation. but of course, by that time it's a bit too late for you or . bit too late for you or. >> or if you're jack grealish and the famous yes person, then you're fine then as well. yeah, yeah. >> and you'll get a helicopter and throw all the and they'll throw all the possible at it as they possible resources at it as they can. but as we speak, nobody's been arrested for that crime yet, have they? >> norman brennan, it

>> no. well, norman brennan, it can't be beyond repair. >> it has to be repaired in defence of frontline police officers. they actually want to do the job that the public and the victims want them to do. uh, in a nutshell, 13 years ago, under theresa may, nearly 22,000 police officers were taken off the streets. that's when the criminals took over the streets. the police have never been able to get it back. and the sad reality now is that police officers, throughout every force in the country can barely put out the minimum resources they're chasing their tails, they're chasing their tails, they go from 199 call to the next. they never get time to investigate. any time they get involved in a controversial issue . it's across social media. issue. it's across social media. it makes them feel crap. it puts it, puts pressure on their chiefs to suspend them. and the iopc to actually investigate them . and they're given too many them. and they're given too many targets. nana they're told that women's safety is a priority. knife crime is a priority. robbery is a priority. burglary is a priority . when everything is a priority. when everything becomes a priority , nothing

becomes a priority, nothing becomes a priority, nothing becomes a priority . what is a becomes a priority. what is a priority? get police officers back on the streets . meet back on the streets. meet victims, talk to the public, goes into shops , investigate goes into shops, investigate crime and challenge those that think they're untouchable because at the moment it's the criminals that run the streets and not the police service . and and not the police service. and that's very worrying. well, justin , do you think that this justin, do you think that this is a case of maybe pumping more money into this? >> if there is an element of >> and if there is an element of that, don't the government that, why don't the government just it? not just get on with it? it's not just get on with it? it's not just money. just get on with it? it's not justweiney. just get on with it? it's not justwe come down. we were talking >> we come down. we were talking earlier about key earlier about what a key influences the economy earlier about what a key influer have, the economy earlier about what a key influer have, and the economy earlier about what a key influerhave, and one economy earlier about what a key influerhave, and one of:onomy earlier about what a key influer have, and one of the my earlier about what a key influer have, and one of the key has to have, and one of the key influences is confidence. and you confidence to you have to have confidence to make you've rule of make sure you've got a rule of law by enforcement law backed up by enforcement investigation and everything that if don't that goes with it. if you don't have then people will back have that, then people will back away. actually be away. they will not actually be involved community. involved in in the community. so much. involved much. they will not be involved in so many transactions, and they won't necessarily invest in they won't necessarily invest in the not the country. so it is to me, not something which is a nice to have. is a key element for have. it is a key element for running a proper economy, a proper a successful country. >> simon, do you do you think

that you know the actual police themselves? because obviously we had an issue with recruitment as well. uh, do you think that perhaps to be a perhaps there needs to be a better way recruiting better way of recruiting officers and more inviting way officers and a more inviting way officers and a more inviting way of because even of recruiting them? because even if you do all this, it doesn't look wants to be a look like anyone wants to be a policeman and who look like anyone wants to be a police|want and who look like anyone wants to be a police|want to and who look like anyone wants to be a police|want to anyway? nd who would want to anyway? >> it's not >> yeah, and it's not just recruitment . recruitment. >> agree with that. i >> and i agree with that. i mean, there a money mean, i think there is a money issue. the wages aren't issue. i think the wages aren't necessarily should necessarily where they should be now for that kind of job, but i think of the biggest think one of the biggest problems is problems we're facing is retention, that's those retention, and that's those officers. they're in that bracket eight or bracket of, say, eight to 15 or 20 feel so 20 years who feel so disillusioned quite rightly, disillusioned and quite rightly, with rhetoric that with the kind of rhetoric that we're about. yeah. you we're talking about. yeah. you know, this is a know, this is this is a continual bombardment and the rhetoric in my belief, the rhetoric in my belief, the rhetoric has to change, you know, way norman's know, the way that norman's talking you talking is quite right. you know, not broken . it's just know, it's not broken. it's just there processes there are systems and processes that put place in that people have put in place in the you know, and the police. you know, and certainly in certainly my experience in the met when i retired two met police when i retired two years ago, you know, those systems and processes put a wall between , you know, victims between, you know, victims and those investigators , those that those investigators, those that want do that job are

want to do that job who are tirelessly working not just tirelessly working and not just on homicide on cases on homicide, but on other cases as well. they want be as well. they want to be involved, they're being involved, but they're not being allowed do that. there's allowed to do that. there's not enough retention allowed to do that. there's not eno concentrated retention allowed to do that. there's not eno concentrated on retention allowed to do that. there's not eno concentrated on and antion allowed to do that. there's not eno concentrated on and nor)n allowed to do that. there's not eno concentrated on and nor is recruitment. >> but you said you need 20,000 more, didn't resign or retire , more, didn't resign or retire, you retired. oh i see, i see you've retired i see. sorry. who was speaking there? was that norman? >> it's norman i agree with my with the last comments. it's absolutely right. we've rerecruited 20,000. it's a bit like a burglar taking all of your property and over 12 years gives you it all back. you've the loss is felt every day for when you've lost that 20,000 officers have been recruited . officers have been recruited. over 4500 have already resigned , over 4500 have already resigned, and we haven't got enough officers to cope. and unless we recruit 20,000 more police officers and we've lost the experienced ones , we need to get experienced ones, we need to get 2 or 3000 of them back. reopen training schools. and when the pubuc training schools. and when the public are concerned on who we're actually recruiting , let's

we're actually recruiting, let's make sure that the reference checks are done from the beginning. that the people are interviewed and they're sent to police training schools, because that's three steps where you can weed out those that should never be in the job. and more likely to be a threat to the police service and the public than any good. if we go back to basics, the nine, the nine principles of sir robert peel get on the streets, get back the public confidence, reassure them till the criminals that we are about, and make sure that the quarterback is out . because at quarterback is out. because at the moment the whole criminal justice is fit for justice system is not fit for purpose. at this moment in purpose. and at this moment in time , i see 2024 being one of time, i see 2024 being one of the worst years for law and order since policing began. and if you don't believe me, i'm sure of your panel there sure most of your panel there will been law will agree. and i've been in law and order from policing for 45 years. i've got a bit of an idea what i'm talking about, and by golly in dangerous times. golly, we're in dangerous times. peter is he right? >> no, no, a lot of what norman says does carry some merit. but what's got to be remembered here says does carry some merit. but withe; got to be remembered here says does carry some merit. but

withe clowns. be remembered here says does carry some merit. but withe clowns. thezmembered here says does carry some merit. but withe clowns. the fools bered here says does carry some merit. but withe clowns. the fools ,ered here says does carry some merit. but withe clowns. the fools , the here is the clowns. the fools, the over university educated people that have been in charge of policing for the last generation. and whilst we've been talking about the new years honours list today, let's just take a little peek at that, if we may. martin hewitt, who just stood down as the chief of the national police chiefs council, got a cbe today to go along with his queen's police medal that he got some years ago. this is the calibre of people we're talking about just a few years ago , when about just a few years ago, when his assistant commissioner of the met, he said of course we are talking here about victims of crime and crime is a minority percentage of the activity that we are undertaking. mind rmt activity, crime . you see, this activity, crime. you see, this is the rot of police leadership and also today, jason davies , and also today, jason davies, assistant chief constable of south wales police, he gets a gong when his own chief constable admits that his police service is institutionally racist . it goes on. karen

racist. it goes on. karen finley. she gets a gong today . finley. she gets a gong today. she's been in charge of public order policing at the met for the last couple of years . the last couple of years. anybody want to talk about? just stop and the palestine stop oil and the palestine protest? and goes on. protest? and so it goes on. rewarding failure . rewarding failure. >> well, that's what i said about the honours system. we could talk about this for a long time. and there's still more to discuss. and the debate because that follow. thank that will follow. justin, thank you much, peter. and you so much, simon peter. and also you so much also norman, thank you so much for thoughts. crikey for your thoughts. crikey so what gb views what do you think? gb views gb news. com i'm nana akua. this is gb coming up. we'll gb news coming up. we'll continue the great british continue with the great british debate asking debate this hour. i'm asking is our beyond our police force broken beyond repair ? the thoughts my repair? the thoughts of my panel repair? the thoughts of my panel, danny christine. but panel, danny and christine. but first, get your latest first, let's get your latest news sophia . news with sophia. >> thank you. now it's 433. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . thousands of people's newsroom. thousands of people's newsroom. thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all trains to and from london. the company apologised after what it said was

unprecedented flooding in a number of tunnels, including under the thames, up to 35,000 passengers have been affected, with many left stranded at london saint pancras station. some have taken to social media to vent their frustrations, saying they were only told about the cancellations at 8:00 this morning and forecasters are warning people to take care ahead of new year celebrations. strong winds are expected with a small chance of tornadoes in england and wales. heavy rain is predicted in many parts of the country, with parts of scotland likely to see significant levels of snow. the met office says yellow alerts are in place until 3 am. tomorrow. police may be facing renewed scrutiny over the huge amount of crimes that haven't been solved this year , haven't been solved this year, new figures reveal. there were 4.7 million unsolved crimes in 2023. that's almost 86% of those reported 1.7 million were of a violent nature, with a further million down to criminal damage

or arson . in many cases, police or arson. in many cases, police fail to find a suspect. labour says the conservatives record on solving crimes is disgraceful and has accused the government of letting criminals off and victims down and shameless cronyism and a slap in the to face working people. just two criticism of liz truss's resignation honours list . resignation honours list. britain's shortest serving prime minister has handed out 11 peerages to political allies, tory donors and former aides, which amounts to around one for every four days in office. labour says honours should be for public service, not rewarding tory failure. liz truss resigned last october after 49 days amid economic turmoil sparked by her so—called mini—budget and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbviews@gbnews.com. now it's back to . nana.

back to. nana. >> thank you sophia. it's just coming up to 36 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news coming up. we'll round up time. royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio with the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu. king charles's popularity to princess anne and queen camilla's relationship. but up next, it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, is our police force broken beyond repair? i've got to pull up right now on x asking you that very question. send me your thoughts. email gb views at gb news. tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. your now

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news who's . news who's. >> i've just shown danny kelly a picture of me in a black and white photo, and he goes , you're white photo, and he goes, you're looking very dark in there. i'm like, it's black and white. i honestly, if you just tuned in, sorry about that. 41 minutes after 4:00, this is gp news. honestly, we're live on tv, onune honestly, we're live on tv, online and on digital radio and of course loads of you getting in touch with regard to the great british debate we're going to continue with that this hour. and asking, our police and i'm asking, is our police force repair? force broken beyond repair? a damning watchdog report found that half of coppers that more than half of coppers are investigate are failing to investigate crimes properly. so for the great british debate, unless, of course, you're jack grealish. so great british debate, unless, of couthe you're jack grealish. so great british debate, unless, of couthe you'rebritishirealish. so great british debate, unless, of couthe you'rebritish debate so for the great british debate this i'm asking, is our this hour, i'm asking, is our police broken beyond police force broken beyond repair? joining me in my repair? well, joining me in my panel broadcaster panel, broadcaster and journalist kelly and journalist danny kelly and author and broadcaster christine

hamilton, christine , i'm going hamilton, christine, i'm going to start with you, and i'm going to start with you, and i'm going to say that i do feel very sorry for the police and the amount of sort energy that's often sort of energy that's often negatively directed towards them. >> oh, nobody has a good word to say the police, they say about the police, do they basically, , i was very basically, um, i was very interested in that panel debate. i mean, they had four pretty strong experts for various reasons . and i thought, um , uh reasons. and i thought, um, uh peter bleksley rant at the end was wonderful about individual police officers who'd got gongs and the reasons why they shouldn't have them. but as shouldn't have had them. but as i understand it, take the met. a third of the metropolitan police now have less than four years experience because there's been one of the guys on the panel talked about there's been talked about it. there's been such um, departure older , such a, um, departure of older, experienced police officers. the people who possibly grew up starting on the beat. some of the people at the top, instead of just going in at some sort of graduate level, which i don't think right, need people. think is right, you need people. they a graduate they come in at a graduate level. they need to go down on the beat for bit, because

the beat for a bit, because there aren't bobbies on the there aren't any bobbies on the beat, are there? the biggest deterrent, in my view, for people committing a crime , people committing a crime, obviously a lot of people would never a crime. it's not a never commit a crime. it's not a big swathe people of, let's big swathe of people of, let's say, who say, of us people who the deterrent getting caught. and deterrent is getting caught. and if they think they're going to get caught, they won't do it. and then the second biggest deterrent is the punishment for getting nowadays people getting caught. nowadays people know going know that they are not going to get caught. so it doesn't matter what punishment if what the punishment is or if they do, they're enter they do, they're trying to enter they do, they're trying to enter the aren't they? the prisons, aren't they? >> they want in there. >> i mean, been a huge >> i mean, there's been a huge avalanche the wrong way avalanche that's the wrong way round. you know, the round. and you know, the opposite avalanche. opposite of an avalanche. uphill rise of rise in the number of shoplifters. because people know that to away that they're going to get away with it. the police aren't interested in shoplifters. so i think, it's incredibly think, you know, it's incredibly difficult. but what want to difficult. but what i want to know these police forces know is all these police forces in special measures, including our has any our own in wiltshire. has any chief been sacked yet? chief constable been sacked yet? >> well, if they sacked, they are in charge. i think the problem is who . who goes in problem is who. who goes in their place and who will take their place and who will take the job. danny, look, there is no for keeping no reason for keeping people because there isn't automatically to

automatically someone to take their automatically someone to take the i'm going i'm going >> i'm going to defer. i'm going to to those three coppers. to defer to those three coppers. they policing they know more about policing than ever know about. than i will ever know about. basically, was most basically, it was most disheartening, to hear disheartening, though, to hear norman brennan, whose career norman brennan, who whose career i've and i've admired i've followed and i've admired over years, and been in i've followed and i've admired ove policingirs, and been in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arenad been in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arena for been in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arena for like een in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arena for like 30! in the policing arena for like 30 or 40 years, i think, he said. and at point, the intimation and at one point, the intimation was, that the met police was, is that the met police don't have control the don't have control of the streets. and i would like to think that was an think that that was an exaggeration in highly exaggeration made in a highly emotive brennan , emotive time for mr brennan, because like to think because i would like to think that have control that the police do have control of streets . but there are of the streets. but there are occasions when spontaneous criminality breaks out that the cops struggle to contain . and i cops struggle to contain. and i think that that's a context that needs clarification. you know, the old bill haven't lost control of the streets, you know, otherwise we'd be living in in complete chaos. >> well, are we not living? they were implying . do not think were implying. do you not think were implying. do you not think we don't know, norman said. >> norman said that the police aren't in control of the streets, so the inference there is have is that the criminals have control is that the criminals have conwell, that's what he's >> well, that's what he's saying. he saying. that's what he was saying. that's what he was saying. right, though,

saying. he's right, though, isn't he? but no, don't think isn't he? but no, i don't think the police. isn't he? but no, i don't think the i'mice. isn't he? but no, i don't think the i'm ice. don't isn't he? but no, i don't think the i'mice. don't think the >> i'm sorry, i don't think the criminals control of the streets. >> if there's a crime, we >> if there's a crime, then we need at why the police need to look at why the police can't get there and investigate. that's two separate, they're that's two separate, but they're not only 6% of crimes not okay, so only 6% of crimes are being punished. not okay, so only 6% of crimes are that being punished. not okay, so only 6% of crimes are that means punished. not okay, so only 6% of crimes are that means 94%;hed. not okay, so only 6% of crimes are that means 94%;hethem or >> so that means 94% of them or or to court actually or gone to court actually punished. punished. so punished. actually punished. so convicted. actually convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% being punished. convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% right. being punished. convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% right. bewell unished. convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% right. bewell letshed. convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% right. bewell let mei. convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% right. bewell let me add convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% ri�*regional)ewell let me add convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% ri�*regional context et me add convicted. so yeah. so actually 6% ri�*regional context becauseid some regional context because there are met police officers and these are all southeast . and these are all southeast. >> i've come from >> you know, i've come from warwickshire to warwickshire and i would like to think only speak as think and i can only speak as a layman in warwickshire . and i layman in warwickshire. and i wouldn't say that warwickshire police lost control police have lost control of the streets. at streets. okay. so let's look at london think outside london and let's think outside of five corridor for of the m25 five corridor for once, because gb views viewers come from a crawl all across the country. yeah, but and i would like to say that warwickshire residents would have confidence in at three residents would have confidence in the at three residents would have confidence in the morning. at three residents would have confidence in the morning. let at three residents would have confidence in the morning. let youat three in the morning. let you quote a jack.jack in the morning. let you quote a jack. jack grealish, multi—millionaire. ten people in the house, £1 million of the house, £1 million worth of jewellery robbery jewellery stolen, a robbery in progress that's why the old progress and that's why the old bill landed. mob handed. because they panic they they have a panic room. they have room from the safe have a safe room from the safe room, family members

room, the ten family members called plot and said get here quickly are quickly because there are robbers that robbers in the house. if that happened and my wife in happened to me and my wife in warwickshire, safe warwickshire, if we had a safe room, i guarantee you room, i can guarantee you warwickshire old would warwickshire old bill would land mob well. don't mob handed as well. you don't have to be a multi—millionaire. >> about that. >> i don't know about that. >> i don't know about that. >> isn't just. >> i don't know about that. >>i isn't just. >> i don't know about that. >> i isn't know about that. >> i don't know about that. >> i don't know about that. >> i don't know about that. >> i think surely what >> well, i think surely what danny it isn't just danny is saying is it isn't just because he's wealthy. no, it's because he's wealthy. no, it's because his enabled him because he's wealthy. no, it's becausethis enabled him because he's wealthy. no, it's becausethis safe enabled him because he's wealthy. no, it's becausethis safe ena exactly.1 to have this safe room. exactly. so yes. but also it's a product of wealth. but they weren't of his wealth. but they weren't there just because. oh my goodness, there just because. oh my goothess, there just because. oh my goothe old bill never landed >> the old bill never landed when realised it was jack when they realised it was jack grealish and cheshire police when they realised it was jack grealoh and cheshire police when they realised it was jack grealoh myi cheshire police when they realised it was jack grealoh my god, ;hire police when they realised it was jack grealoh my god, grealish ce when they realised it was jack grealoh my god, grealish ,a when they realised it was jack grealoh my god, grealish , let's said, oh my god, grealish, let's get there handed. i can get there mob handed. i can guarantee you, if i called the old bill at 4:00 in the morning in warwickshire, my wife and i have a burglary progress, in warwickshire, my wife and i have a iin'glary progress, in warwickshire, my wife and i have a iin progress,»rogress, in warwickshire, my wife and i have a iin progress, they�*ss, in warwickshire, my wife and i have a iin progress, they would robbery in progress, they would land handed. land mob handed. >> they'll say who danny >> they'll say who i danny kelly, gb, bbc is he mentioned the bbc. that might help you out. >> no i want to say and i hope i'm not alone in this amongst viewers. i don't know who jack grealish is. well i didn't, he's a footballer but you know i guess he was a i can't be bothered with footballer actually. >>

f'- e without you >> but it's nothing without you and i just think and your views. i just think they paid too much. let's they get paid too much. let's welcome our great british voices. also police no footballers. opportunity voices. also police no footbion rs. opportunity voices. also police no footbion the opportunity voices. also police no footbion the show. pportunity voices. also police no footbion the show. where'sty voices. also police no footbion the show. where's the to be on the show. where's the map gone? the map's gone again. tell us think about tell us what they think about the discussing . all the topics we're discussing. all right then. lee harris in bristol. right. what you bristol. all right. what do you think is our police force broken beyond repair ? beyond repair? >> think they are broken >> i don't think they are broken beyond repair. >> but, you know, as this recent report clearly shows, the situation is appalling and it needs , you know, and it helps needs, you know, and it helps explain why public confidence is shot to bits . um, the police shot to bits. um, the police have lost control . i do agree have lost control. i do agree with what norma was saying . and with what norma was saying. and the public now expect crimes to not be solved. um, you know, i was shocked, but not surprised to read that more than half of the police forces are failing to investigate crime properly. more and more criminals are not being caught, victims are caught, and victims are definitely the definitely not getting the justice but just justice they deserve. but just to be clear, i have a huge amount of respect for our police force . force. >> um, they do an incredibly difficult job, but i've definitely lost faith in them in

recent years. but i also think that this can be fixed and it needs to start at the top . um, needs to start at the top. um, the it's the leadership and the strategy that urgent strategy that needs urgent reform. i personally believe that the police have lost their way. it's not just these appalling figures. people have were already losing faith in the police the law fairly, police to uphold the law fairly, but we all saw the met's two tier policing when responding to the perpetual anti—israel hate marches. um, they've become increasingly political and suella braverman was spot on when she said that woke police are damaging trust and just to finish on this, norman was also right when he said that the police need to go back to bafics police need to go back to basics. this is genuinely the answer to it. we need to additional policing that upholds the without fear or favour. the law without fear or favour. not this political reactive light touch woke two tier selective policing that we have now. it leads to an erosion of trust and a culture of impunity and a breakdown of law and order. >> well, we need to they need to get we need police stations. i think they need to take out the

rainbow laces and get rid of the pride flags and all the other stuff, all this nonsense they're doing, and just get stuck in. you're absolutely right, you know, stop policing know, and stop policing non—crime not non—crime because it's not a crime non—crime the clue. crime. non—crime is the clue. lee harris , thank you so much. lee harris, thank you so much. happy new year to you as well. i won't tomorrow. that's won't see you tomorrow. that's a lovely he's been lovely lee harris. he's been a great voice, hasn't great british voice, hasn't he? this gb live on tv, this is gb news, live on tv, onune this is gb news, live on tv, online difficult online and on difficult conversations on digital radio. this is. stay with me. because coming up difficult conversations time. it's weird because struggling say because i'm struggling to say that i'm difficult that now. i'm difficult conversations difficult conversations actually difficult to discuss the ulez to say. we discuss the ulez cameras with the enforcement impacting hundreds across the country, will be chatting live. but first, let's get some weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gp news, weather forecast , i'm craig snow. well looking ahead to new year's eve for many of us really we're going to see a sunny spells and

a mixture of sunny spells and heavy quite windy heavy showers. still quite windy and that's all courtesy of this area . low pressure, which area. low pressure, which is only slowly move across only going to slowly move across the country as we go through this note tightly this weekend. note the tightly packed isobars, especially across south, so some strong across the south, so some strong and gusty winds, especially as we through the course of we go through the course of today and tonight as we go into the evening, this band of heavy and squally rain will spread its way eastwards. behind it, a mixture of clear spells and scattered showers that rain quite persistent. later on in the night across shetland and orkney, but for many temperatures still above freezing could just see a touch of frost across scotland, where we still will see a little bit of sleet and snow into new year's eve itself . generally a year's eve itself. generally a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers, showers mainly focussed across the west initially before transferring their way eastwards during the course of the day. some heavy, possibly thundery showers too, and note across shetland and orkney that rain continuing to persist. best of the conditions, as we see at 2023, looks likely

to be across the far north of scotland. new year's day itself for many southern areas, actually a much better day to come. some sunshine here. good opportunity to get out and about further north. continuation of the sunshine and showers theme and that continues as we go through the first days of the new year. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

>> good afternoon . 54 minutes >> good afternoon. 54 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different . and on has been no different. and on the menu, christmas is always busy for the royals, but this year's festivities were particularly notable one particularly notable for one reason a lot of people returned, like fergie . right? anyway, so like fergie. right? anyway, so joining to discuss is angela joining me to discuss is angela levin, royal biographer angela levin, royal biographer angela levin, angela, talk me through what's been going on. >> talk you through. i think you could it in the as a year. could see it in the as a year. are just coming an end . and are just coming to an end. and we've two nasty things at we've had two nasty things at the beginning, at the end there was the beginning was despair at the beginning where full of where harry was full of nastiness unkindness and nastiness and unkindness and lies, and then it was , um, end lies, and then it was, um, end game by scobie, which was also exactly the same. so you see a

family who's had to cope with those two things, which is very , those two things, which is very, very difficult indeed. however when you saw them work, walk to church, what you saw was a really warm, happy family. church, what you saw was a really warm, happy family . see, really warm, happy family. see, you know, princess charlotte talking to mayor, who is mike tindall's daughter? she's nine, she's eight. and you saw everybody . she was very relaxed , everybody. she was very relaxed, smiling, laughing . and fergie smiling, laughing. and fergie was there for the first time in 32 years as large due to meghan , 32 years as large due to meghan, largely due to, um, uh, camilla, i should say, um, because because she doesn't bear a grudge to someone and she felt that , you know, that she's been that, you know, that she's been a marvellous mother. she's that, you know, that she's been a marvellous mother . she's gone a marvellous mother. she's gone through , um, her cancer through, um, her cancer operation , and she deserves to operation, and she deserves to come back again. last year, they tried it just with the lunch. and this year it was the service and the lunch . and i think that and the lunch. and i think that was it's very good. she's being a very good mother. her children

adore her for over 20 years because the duke of edinburgh couldn't bear her anywhere near the queen liked her. they had quiet chats, secret chats, but the duke of edinburgh didn't. quiet chats, secret chats, but the duke of edinburgh didn't . so the duke of edinburgh didn't. so 22 years her children would go for the christmas lunch and she would rent a little place somewhere nearby . it was sad. so somewhere nearby. it was sad. so now i think it's sort of slightly funny, probably like, don't bring that woman anywhere near don't bring that woman anywhere neai bear woman . >> i can't bear that woman. yeah. couldn't come. >> i mean, very outspoken >> i mean, he's very outspoken about fergie and goes back about fergie and that goes back to the sucking the toes thing. oh, god . oh, god. >> yeah. that was the same. paul bryant was. that oh, bryant was. and that was oh, that terrible. bryant was. and that was oh, tha that terrible. bryant was. and that was oh, tha that wasible. bryant was. and that was oh, tha that was really the basis of >> that was really the basis of it. you saw they were all it. but you saw they were all very relaxed each very, very relaxed with each other and princess anne to who said in the documentary the next day , um, that she was absolutely day, um, that she was absolutely astounded that the camilla has done become such a brilliant queen without having the sort of, um , experience that in her of, um, experience that in her life that she has managed to do it so well and the difference is

made to the king has been absolutely enormous . now those absolutely enormous. now those two princess, i wouldn't speak to camilla when she first got there, not because they'd had an affair with the same man, but because that that's parker bowles. um, but because she just felt it was all wrong and she wasn't suitable. and gradually they got together. they've got a lot in common with horses and dogs and all that. and now they're very good friends. and you see that people in families can get over very, very hard times. and i think what harry and meghan has put them through has proven that actually, if you're dignified, you behave well and you move on. you can get over it. although they can be obviously some pain left . be obviously some pain left. whereas if you keep on looking back and you won't be prepared to compromise or anything at all, it doesn't work and you're really angry and jealous and you know, you feel like victims . and know, you feel like victims. and so it's very interesting that that's, um, a turnaround for the

yeah that's, um, a turnaround for the year. and it got, um, terrific number of people watching it. that and the documentary the next day . next day. >> i didn't see that. i'm going to have to go and check that out. >> it's wonderful. it's extremely moving. and princess anne gives an interview which she rarely does, but she obviously wanted to say this about camilla, which is, i think very nice. and it and it worked. it worked extremely well. and i think people, um, who have criticised the king for saying he's lazy, he's getting tired, it's getting run out. the royal family doesn't work anymore. but actually whenever he goes anywhere, whether it's germany or france or he's just there in london in, um, people really like him hugely. and there's an awful lot of follow up and a lot of the people who were standing by on the way to the church got there at 4 am. so that they would be able to see them. so this was like the coronation again, briefly , the honours list again, briefly, the honours list as well.

>> now that's come out as well, hasn't it? >> the honours list has come out with a little boy. um, tony hudgell, who is only nine. he's the youngest ever to have won an award . and this was because his award. and this was because his parents actually he, um, were very violent against him. i remember that story. very violent against him. i remember that story . two legs, remember that story. two legs, poor things. cut off, and he wants to make sure that other children don't have the same thing. and he's made over £1 million to help look after other children who've had a very bad time . amazing little boy. and time. amazing little boy. and wonderful parents that he's adopted. >> well, that's what the honours list should be all about. instead of some of the politicians that are on there. yes. angela. um sorry about that. angela levin. thank you very royal biographer very much. royal biographer angela new year. very much. royal biographer angela new new year. very much. royal biographer angela new year new year. very much. royal biographer angela new year to new year. very much. royal biographer angela new year to you. v year. very much. royal biographer angela new year to you. she's. happy new year to you. she's also harry's biographer. also prince harry's biographer. yes she wrote his book. but today i've been asking, are the police beyond repair? police broken beyond repair? lots. you've been getting in touch thoughts. we'll touch with your thoughts. we'll be some those be going through some of those

emails a moment. time emails in just a moment. time but this is a gb news live on tv, online digital radio. tv, online and digital radio. more come next hour more to come in the next hour. hello, this is gb news live on tv , online and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. i am nana akua. uh, still to come . uh, my difficult come. uh, my difficult conversation where i will be talking to howard cox and a lady called claire discussing the ulez cameras. plus in the great british debate this hour, we'll be talking about new year's eve . be talking about new year's eve. and for goodness sake, is it all turning into a bit of a mess? stay tuned . that's on way. stay tuned. that's on the way. but first, your latest but first, let's get your latest news with sophia . news with sophia. good afternoon. >> it's 5:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . thousands of in the gb newsroom. thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all trains to

and from london. the company apologised after what it said was unprecedented flooding in a number of tunnels, including under the thames, up to 35,000 passengers have been affected , passengers have been affected, with many left stranded at london's saint pancras station. some have taken to social media to vent their frustrations, saying they were only told of the cancellations at 8:00 this morning . and forecasters are morning. and forecasters are warning people to take care ahead of new year celebrations as heavy rain and strong winds are expected in many parts of the country , with parts of the country, with parts of scotland likely to see significant levels of snow. the met office says yellow alerts are in place until 3 am. tomorrow. you crane has struck a series of targets in russia, killing 14 people and injuring many more. it comes after russia carried out its most devastating air attack since the invasion began. air attack since the invasion began . ukraine says the began. ukraine says the brutality of the strikes, which killed 31 people, shows there can be no talk of a truce with

moscow . so russia requested a moscow. so russia requested a meeting of the united nations security council today, despite most members condemning russia's actions at an emergency gathering last night, the uk's representative, barbara woodward , says russia is deliberately targeting civilians. these missiles were aimed at population centres across ukraine, at kyiv , lviv to ukraine, at kyiv, lviv to dnipro, odesa kharkiv, kaminski and many more cities . and many more cities. >> they struck homes, apartment buildings , shopping centres and buildings, shopping centres and metros and maternity hospital and a regional oncology centre . and a regional oncology centre. they have been damaged in short civil infrastructure . civil infrastructure. >> a matter investigation has been launched after a 29 year old man was stabbed in north—west london. emergency crews were called to the scene at the abbey estate near saint john's wood, just after 730 on

friday evening . the victim, who friday evening. the victim, who hasn't been named , was taken to hasn't been named, was taken to hospital but he later died. a cordon is in place near the famous abbey road crossing while detectives investigate . no detectives investigate. no arrests have yet been made . arrests have yet been made. police may be facing renewed scrutiny over the huge amount of crimes that haven't been solved this year. new figures reveal. there were 4.7 million unsolved crimes in 2023. that's almost 86% of those reported, and 1.7 million were of a violent nature, with a further million down to criminal damage or arson. in many cases , police arson. in many cases, police failed to find a suspect . labour failed to find a suspect. labour says the conservatives record on solving crimes is disgraceful and has accused the government of letting criminals off and victims down a 23 year old man has appeared in court charged with the murder of chris marriott , who was hit by a car marriott, who was hit by a car in sheffield . the father of two in sheffield. the father of two was with his family when he tried to help a woman lying unconscious in the street on wednesday. he was killed when a

car ploughed into a crowd of people. 23 year old hassan guy anker is also facing five counts of attempted murder. he is due to appear at sheffield crown court on tuesday . shameless court on tuesday. shameless cronyism and a slap in the face to working people. just two criticism of liz truss resignation honours list. brits shortest serving prime minister has handed out 11 peerages to political allies, tory donors and former aides , which amounts and former aides, which amounts to around one for every four days in office. labour says honours should be for public service, not rewarding tory failure . liz truss resigned last failure. liz truss resigned last october after 49 days amid economic turmoil sparked by her so—called mini—budget meanwhile, dame shirley bassey has been given the highest award in the king's new year honours list. the legendary singer is the 64th living member of the order of the companions of honour in resignation, in recognition of her service to music, its

limited to 65 members at any one time. dame shirley has sold 135 million records worldwide, and glasgow festival founder michael eavis and wetherspoons boss tim martin are among those knighted. and there are damehoods for jilly cooper and mp siobhan mcdonagh . this is gb news across mcdonagh. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . nana. news now it's back to. nana. >> thank you sophia. it's just fast approaching six minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. theirs. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. theirs . and of it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and debating, discussing and at times disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast

and journalist danny kelly and author and broadcaster christine hamilton. still to come, my difficult conversation today is on all things ulez or ulez. i'll be hearing from an anti ulez protester who's been left on what somebody one of her colleagues has been left on crutches after being hit by a mobile camera van and also . mobile camera van and also. howard cox will be live in the studio then in our pubs, restaurants and bars are still struggling to recover from covid. cost living crisis covid. the cost of living crisis is rumbling on. there's is still rumbling on. there's chaos our transport links as chaos on our transport links as staff shortages travel staff shortages threaten travel disruption over the next few days, so in the great british debate hour, we'll be debate this hour, we'll be discussing that ever. email discussing that as ever. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk me me gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. so so, uh, before at. gb news. so so, uh, before we get stuck into our difficult conversation today, i've been asking, is our police force beyond repair? lots of you been getting in touch with your views. james says if you were a

police officer , would you put police officer, would you put your life on the line when villains order villains get a community order for any crime committed? for almost any crime committed? no, wouldn't , and actually no, i wouldn't, and actually i wouldn't be a police officer because support as because the lack of support as well. terrible . robert says well. it's terrible. robert says they're but need they're not broken, but in need of ordinary of repair. most ordinary policemen work hard policemen and women work hard and joined for the right reasons. well, i've got to pull up now on twitter. i'm up right now on twitter. i'm asking that question up right now on twitter. i'm asking the: question up right now on twitter. i'm asking the show. :ion your throughout the show. keep your thoughts gb views thoughts coming. gb views gbnews.com at gb news. but gbnews.com or at gb news. but now, of course, it is time for this week's difficult conversation. khan faces conversation. sadiq khan faces new ulez headaches as european drivers launch legal challenge . drivers launch legal challenge. over £65 million worth of fines. transport for london could be forced to pay back millions of pounds in ulez fines after a european company launched legal action in defence of drivers . and with thousands of drivers. and with thousands across the country objecting to the enforcements. why do we have to have them at all? does it need just wasting money? so i'm joined studio by joined now in the studio by howard cox, founder of fair fuel uk , and dyer, anti ulez uk, and clare dyer, an anti ulez protester. i'm going to protester. um, so i'm going to

start with you, howard cox. you, you you me, you two. you sound like you got dressed in the same room. she's the reverse of you . room. she's the reverse of you. literally but i'll start with you, howard. so there is a lot of, um, there seems to be a lot of, um, there seems to be a lot of backlash with these ulez cameras, but there doesn't appear to be any sign of sadiq khan or withdrawing khan retracting or withdrawing from this policy . from this. this policy. >> absolutely. and, uh , as you >> absolutely. and, uh, as you know, i'm standing for london mayor well. and one of the mayor as well. and one of the reasons i'm standing reasons why i'm standing is to get of this dishonest get rid of this dishonest mayor. he's new heights he's he set new heights of dishonesty, using dishonesty, and he's using taxpayers employ thugs. taxpayers money to employ thugs. and, i mean, they are thugs. >> no, he would say that he's trying deal air trying to deal with air pollution. and that's he pollution. and that's what he has said. and of course, you have um, rosamund have people like, um, rosamund kissi—debrah been kissi—debrah, who has been talking how her child died talking about how her child died and was the first person to have air the air pollution on the certificate. say certificate. so he would say that he's trying to that actually he's trying to save london in terms of the environment and protect londoners . londoners. >> that's sad case. but she >> that's a sad case. but she was already very ill. i'm not going to actually talk about that he's saying going to actually talk about that are he's saying going to actually talk about

that are 4000 he's saying going to actually talk about that are 4000 of he's saying going to actually talk about that are 4000 of that saying going to actually talk about that are 4000 of that typeig going to actually talk about that are 4000 of that type of there are 4000 of that type of cases. is cases. there aren't. there is 3000 that haven't died 3000 and 9999 that haven't died from air pollution. the thing is, though, he's using tactics to get through his idealism on of a which is actually of a ulez, which is actually proven not to actually improve air quality. it's purely a cash grab. >> and now where have we seen that? it doesn't help the air quality. i mean, i'm only challenging you, but i do know that no. >> yes, i know obviously the whole point the centre of london recently came out with some hans christian andersen type data, which spoke to martin daubney which i spoke to martin daubney yesterday on gb news. and fundamentally he's actually using their own data. it was actually not peer reviewed. and what is there's some what it says is there's some massive reduction in nox and massive reduction in nox and massive reduction in particulate matter. we challenged that matter. well, we challenged that the actual company that actually produced data is very produced that data is very questionable. what they're doing . and it wasn't peer reviewed. the thing even tfl , imperial the thing is, even tfl, imperial college, queen mary's hospital have have proven that the ulez extension will not will not improve air quality in any

demonstrable way whatsoever. >> i wanted them to change the wording, didn't he? exactly that well, that was the deputy mayor who said that. >> fundamentally nana what's >> and fundamentally nana what's happening at the moment. he's using all tactics to try and get ulez through, and one of them is actually these cameras, these detection cameras, these vans are being protested against lawfully by law abiding but frustrated people. just putting a placard in front of the camera. to stop them doing camera. but to stop them doing that, he's employing i'm sorry, i'm it again. thugs. >> well, i mean, i mean, >> well, i mean, look, i mean, there are images of these people and some of them are . so their and some of them are. so their faces are covered, some of them are badges. so are not showing their badges. so i the justification i can see what the justification is using that. mean, here is for using that. i mean, here is for using that. i mean, here is who is dressed to is somebody who is dressed to protect the cameras. now, if i saw somebody in saw somebody like that in the street, would be terrified. street, i would be terrified. and some of them showing and some of them aren't showing their as well. it their badges visibly as well. it is i mean, they might is a little i mean, they might argue that it's cold and they're covering but they are covering them, but they are covering their faces and it does seem clare, i know seem menacing now. clare, i know that you have experience of what's around what's been going on around these particular cameras and so

on and so forth. talk to me about your experience. >> well, i would say that the security have been the security have been on the streets much from day streets pretty much from day one. when have said that one. so when tfl have said that they were only employed because of vandalism , um, to their of vandalism, um, due to their vans cameras , um, we're not vans and cameras, um, we're not talking about the static cameras. we're literally talking about the mobile cameras on the vans and security. were vans and the security. were there definitely from the first week september. and obviously week of september. and obviously ulez the 28th. ulez only came out on the 28th. um from day one, they were threatening. they were antagonistic. they you know, they're supposed to be trying to de—escalate a situation, not escalate it . um, i've been there escalate it. um, i've been there on my own before where i have been standing there and they already know information on me. they know my name. they imply that they know things about my life , which is it is life, which is it is intimidating . life, which is it is intimidating. i life, which is it is intimidating . i there's been intimidating. i there's been many assaults. they've pushed a woman down to the ground in bexley . they've thrown signs. bexley. they've thrown signs. they they have managed to get the number of one woman and have threatened her. >> i just want to apologise,

though, for that image there, because there was an image of one of some, one of somebody in in flicking bird. in the van flicking the bird. oh, that's bbc, that's. oh, yes, that's the bbc, that's. >> that , that's quite common. >> that, that's quite common. that's quite . common. um, yeah. that's quite. common. um, yeah. even abuse. i'm not going to say all, but let's say the majority, the majority are um, you know, dressed as you've just seen . and dressed as you've just seen. and to be honest, we can all do that. we could all dress like that. we could all dress like that and stand by any tfl , um, that and stand by any tfl, um, you know, asset and claim that we're close protection or we're security. how do you prove it? well, the lot of them aren't showing their badges. they have point blank refused to show their badges. i did have um, i wouldn't say it was an incident. there's been a lot of police time wasted . they will call the time wasted. they will call the police at opportunity . for police at every opportunity. for me, it's almost to create a situation . believe there situation. i believe that there is. there has been from day one, a to a directive to create a situation by which to make obe have us arrested on false pretences . pretences. >> do you think it almost feels like you're being set up? i

mean, if you 100, if you were to appear near one of those cameras dressed like those characters, there, you'd probably be arrested. >> yeah, i, i, the last >> i yeah, i, i, um, the last fan i actually attended, i was there my own . i'm not tall. there on my own. i'm not tall. i'm five foot one. i was on my own. i had that first image, actually was my footage. that's how was to me. he. they how close he was to me. he. they normally stand the pavement . normally stand on the pavement. they approached they both came and approached me. one was standing right on top of me and telling me to move away from the van. >> um, literally on top of you though. no, not literally, but he he was close enough to be >> he was close enough to be touching me, and i did feel intimidated. said, are intimidated. and i said, you are trying and trying to intimidate me and harass me . a here on harass me. i'm a woman here on my own. i'm not going to be vandalising the van. i don't have on me. i said, have any weapons on me. i said, i feel like you're doing this to try and create a situation that i'm attempting to do something which i'm not. they did call the police. the police actually backed me up, the police backed me up, and the police officer said to me, i have to say, they have asked me to arrest you for criminal damage, but you do? i had done

but what did you do? i had done nothing. officer nothing. and the police officer said, worry, we're not said, don't worry, we're not going we you going to because we know you haven't anything. i haven't done anything. and i said, see what? i said to said, see what? and i said to them, i said, you do them, i said, why would you do that? i said, why would you lie? why you to create why are you trying to create these you know, they these situations? you know, they every will attempt to every time they will attempt to antagonise us, they'll even try and drive off with the cameras still running and they're not legally that. legally allowed to do that. >> that incident >> we had that incident where we, the studio we, heather, came to the studio and she was actually run over by one of these, these cameras, these people. one of these, these cameras, these she people. one of these, these cameras, these she still)ple. one of these, these cameras, these she still recovering it >> and she still recovering it and still recovering. and the police it. >> mean, it is unbelievable. >> i mean, it is unbelievable. now, is this just happening now, this is this just happening in here where you are or have you travelled around other parts and found this? >> can so obviously >> right. i can so obviously we're all linked. i can tell you that these camera vans only go up go to five up to go out to the five boroughs who actually oppose the ulez. the council's opposed it and mainly on the and they are mainly on the boundary edges. so they've been known to park on boundary known to park on the boundary line ulez and the line of the ulez and the camera's actually facing onto the non ulez section that the non ulez section of that road. so i don't even know if that's ethical . i do that

that's ethical. i do know that a lot of information, freedom of information requests have gone information requests have gone in access requests in subject access requests because we have an issue with the worn cameras that we the body worn cameras that we have reported a location multiple times where they are within 500m of not just schools, but also a special needs school. there have been it's been dark. there have been it's been dark. there have been children in school uniform walking down the footpath . and i've said, are you footpath. and i've said, are you recording ? and they said, we recording? and they said, we don't have to tell you recording. well, they do under gdpr, under the ico . gdpr, under the ico. >> i don't know the rules do they? and the problem is that anybody could dress up like that and to be them. and and pretend to be them. and actually things. if they actually do bad things. if they want , look. how what what want this, look. how what what is khan doing about this? want this, look. how what what is hean doing about this? want this, look. how what what is he must ng about this? want this, look. how what what is he must be about this? want this, look. how what what is he must be aware this? want this, look. how what what is he must be aware ofs? because he must be aware of what's going on. i'm aware of it. anyone watching it. and anyone watching or listening now thinking, listening to this now thinking, oh in london. no oh well, it's only in london. no it's in it's not. we've got ulez in birmingham they're , they're birmingham and they're, they're planning probably them planning to probably expand them all country. so you all over the country. so you need listening to this, need to be listening to this, howard. need to be listening to this, hovwell, there's a lot of >> well, there's a lot of mayoral next year mayoral elections next year in manchester mayoral elections next year in ma those er mayoral elections next year in ma those places. this all those places. and this is a political absolute minefield of ,

political absolute minefield of, you know, in terms of a political interest . and they political interest. and they know vote winner . and know it's not a vote winner. and i you know, it's what's i think, you know, it's what's happenedin i think, you know, it's what's happened in manchester. i mean, andy actually andy burnham is actually not introducing zone introducing clean air zone charges, he's relying on charges, etc. he's relying on having wonderful fuel having wonderful clean fuel technology, which is what i advocate , and that's what we advocate, and that's what we should be doing. in answer your original about what should be doing. in answer your originikhan about what should be doing. in answer your originikhan is about what should be doing. in answer your originikhan is doing but what should be doing. in answer your originikhan is doing about at should be doing. in answer your originikhan is doing about it, sadiq khan is doing about it, i've written him and he i've written to him and he appreciate never writes appreciate he never writes back to him to me whatsoever. i've asked him simply very, nicely. simply, very, very nicely. i said, why are you doing this? and then the other thing also, you point about where you made the point about where they've the they've opposed ulez the boroughs opposed . i've, get boroughs opposed. i've, i get something like 2 or 3000 emails a week. wow uh, and about 600 of them are from greater london, areas where this is happening more so in the areas where it's been opposed, like bromley, dartford, etc. in areas. dartford, etc. in those areas. but doing anything . but he's not doing anything. >> um, there >> can i say that? um, there have many, um , complaints have been many, um, complaints and, and freedom of information requests to tfl to the sia and most of these in a way have been rejected because whatever legislation there is somehow he

has found the loophole to basically evade having to answer these questions, even on terms of asking, requesting data of yourself , of asking, requesting data of yourself, one of which involved an assault by a security on a member of public and they are rejecting that information under the data protection act. so all legislation, all these regulations, somehow they found the loopholes within them to that that's i suppose they would argue that's the law if they can you know, that's the law as it stands. >> and obviously how would you would say that? because you're a candidate against him going for mayor so that what you're mayor so not that what you're saying any credible, but saying is any less credible, but ihave saying is any less credible, but i have to point that out to our viewers and listeners that you are going head to head with him. absolutely a mayoral candidate. but was not introduce >> but but i was not introduce something, don't forget, something, but don't forget, taxpayers this. taxpayers are paying for this. london are paying for london residents are paying for the deployment of these. i'm going to it again. these going to say it again. these thugs, seen the pictures. thugs, you've seen the pictures. well they are not well they do they are not they are professional. they are are not professional. they are not the badges on show. and not got the badges on show. and when go to and talk to

when you go up to and talk to them, walk run away. them, they walk away, run away. they this, they don't sit they do all this, they don't sit there. i am so and so from the security i represent this. >> can i also add that on tfl run sites? so underground bus depots, they wear depots, um security they wear high are high vis their badges are displayed and they have a specific are specific dress code. these are tfl representative . he's tfl representative. he's protecting a tfl asset. why are they allowed to dress like this? >> if they dress like that and did the job they're doing, did the job that they're doing, you would be. you wouldn't you still would be. you wouldn't be i be happy with them either way. i mean, it's more i think mean, if they it's more i think at the end of the day, everyone's human and everyone you work living. >> we could say, you know, they could be on benefits. they're out working. i have to say out working. but i have to say it the behaviour are out it is the behaviour they are out to deliberately threaten and antagonise and intimidate, and they completely unlawful. they are completely unlawful. it's almost as if they've had no training, as if they've just picked somebody off streets. picked somebody off the streets. so what would you like to see? >> ultimately so what would you like to see? >> you ultimately so what would you like to see? >> you don't ultimately so what would you like to see? >> you don't want ultimately so what would you like to see? >> you don't want ultirulez. that you don't want the ulez. most don't want the most people don't want the expansion in london, expansion of the ulez in london, and there seems to evidence and there seems to be evidence that really very that it's not really doing very much. sadiq khan was much. i mean, sadiq khan was

questioned he doesn't questioned about it. he doesn't appear to want to to of questioned about it. he doesn't apjorar to want to to of questioned about it. he doesn't apjor other/ant to to of questioned about it. he doesn't apjor other people to of questioned about it. he doesn't apjor other people about of questioned about it. he doesn't apjor other people about it, of us or other people about it, which is difficult. think it which is difficult. i think it help what is worrying >> well, what is very worrying for me, the way he's for me, he he the way he's approaching actually introducing this it's a laudable this policy, it's a laudable aim. clean we want aim. we want clean air. we want the environment. we want the environment. we all want that. don't do it by that. but you don't do it by hitting pocket. hitting people in the pocket. honest people. cost honest decent people. he's cost london's gdp £1 billion. that sort of thing. in terms of cost of ulez businesses aren't coming in. the plumber, the electrician, they're not coming in work in anymore. in to work in london anymore. that is destroying it. >> but isn't he doing? isn't that that's he wanted. that what that's what he wanted. he wanted to get those vehicles out of london. >> i for example, out of london. >> know! for example, out of london. >> know , for example, out of london. >> know , i've for example, out of london. >> know , i've done example, out of london. >> know , i've done multiple you know, i've done multiple videos essentially videos of essentially where i live. i live the countryside, live. i live in the countryside, in the valleys, and a lot of the london boroughs are very suburban areas. we are not the city and don't city of london. and we don't have transport that have the public transport that london does. it's very easy for the average person to even check air quality. go to on your maps, scroll and you have the air scroll down and you have the air quality will quality index, and it will actually what actually tell you what the particles whether it's particles are, whether it's ozone. three you've ozone. 3 pm. three you've always been able to do that .

always been able to do that. i've always regularly monitored it. weather daily it. i check the weather daily and quality is always and our air quality is always between 2. very rarely between 1 and 2. very rarely goes to three, which is extremely good. always has been. and 12th cleanest and we're the 12th cleanest city in the world in terms of 12 out of 115. you can justify whether you can justify the original congestion within the city of london, but to extend it to the suburban is suburban areas, which is countryside, don't have the countryside, we don't have the transport we will transport system. we will essentially be locked down. >> that a point. the >> that is a fair point. the transport aren't there >> that is a fair point. the tra support aren't there >> that is a fair point. the tra support they're n't there >> that is a fair point. the tra support they're not here >> that is a fair point. the tra support they're not going to support and they're not going to support and they're not going to and doesn't sound to change. and it doesn't sound like to be like they're going to be listening. claire, thank so listening. claire, thank you so much. thank listening. claire, thank you so mucvery thank listening. claire, thank you so mucvery much thank listening. claire, thank you so mucvery much claire thank listening. claire, thank you so mucvery much claire dyer, thank listening. claire, thank you so mucvery much claire dyer, she's k you very much claire dyer, she's an empty protester. and of an empty ulez protester. and of course, howard of course, howard cox. but of course, sadiq khan defends the need for enforcement. so need for ulez enforcement. so let's hear him out. >> ultra low emission zone works in central london. it led to an almost 50% reduction in toxic air. >> but here's the really bad news. >> in outer london is where the worst consequences of air pollution are. >> the ten boroughs with the largest number of premature deaths are all in outer london. and when you bear in mind, our

city has 500,000 people with respiratory issues. two thirds of those in our to london. and i believe clean air should be a human right, not a privilege . human right, not a privilege. >> well, that was sadiq khan's . >> well, that was sadiq khan's. you can get in touch. gb views gb news dotcom. what do you think about these ulez? they think about all these ulez? they will a near will be coming to a place near you. not in you. even if you're not in central london. already central london. they're already in birmingham and other parts of this just gone this country. but it's just gone 21 minutes 5:00. uh, 21 minutes after 5:00. uh, coming time for the coming up, it's time for the great british debate this hour . great british debate this hour. and asking new year's eve and i'm asking is new year's eve a damp squid? uh we'll also be discussing trains as they've been cancelled the uk . been cancelled across the uk. strikes are continuing. is it time for nationalise the railway? stay tuned. that's on the

>> michael portillo, gb news. >> michael portillo, gb news. >> britain's news channel . >> britain's news channel. >> britain's news channel. >> good afternoon . 25 minutes >> good afternoon. 25 minutes after 5:00. if you've just tuned in, where have you been ? you've in, where have you been? you've missed two out of 2.5 hours. that's fine because actually you get another hour of me because after this the saturday after this i'm on the saturday five, better make sure five, so you better make sure you with but nana you stay with me. but i'm nana akua. live on tv, online, akua. we are live on tv, online, and on digital radio. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it's time now for the great debate. hour . great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking new year's eve great british debate. this hour. aidamp asking new year's eve great british debate. this hour. aidamp squid? new year's eve great british debate. this hour. aidamp squid? muchn year's eve great british debate. this hour. aidamp squid? much like ar's eve great british debate. this hour. aidamp squid? much like squid,a a damp squid? much like squid, or even much like christmas , new or even much like christmas, new year's eve is traditionally a time revelry, celebration year's eve is traditionally a timeloadsevelry, celebration year's eve is traditionally a timeloads oflry, celebration year's eve is traditionally a timeloads of otherlebration year's eve is traditionally a timeloads of other things. n year's eve is traditionally a timeloads of other things. a and loads of other things. a chance to get together with your friends and your family and have a good old knees however a good old knees up. however with the weather with the yellow weather warnings, floods and heavy winds across forcing many brits across the uk forcing many brits to the new year's travel

to cancel the new year's travel plans, and that's if the train companies to get companies can be bothered to get trains out there. the price of pints and all the drinks continuing to skyrocket due to inflation, plus , this year's inflation, plus, this year's festivities are probably going to be a bit less jolly than the previous one because of all the other stuff that's been happening. remember, you've got the doctors nurses strike. happening. remember, you've got the dcpeople nurses strike. happening. remember, you've got the dcpeople nscaredtrike. happening. remember, you've got the dcpeople nscared just. happening. remember, you've got the dcpeople nscared just in some people are scared just in case a mishap. case they have a mishap. there'll there help there'll be nobody there to help them, they're them, even though they're not striking that'll be striking today. but that'll be in a few days time. so for the great british debate hour, great british debate this hour, i'm year's eve i'm asking, is new year's eve a damp ? now joined by damp squib? now i'm joined by travel editor at the lisa travel editor at the sun, lisa minot, ceo of night time industries association michael kill, former labour mp kill, and former labour mp stephen right . well, i'm stephen pound, right. well, i'm going to start with you straight away , michael kill. i'm going to away, michael kill. i'm going to go with you first. what do you think about this? is it is it turning to be bad ? turning out to be bad? >> well, i think there are plenty of success stories out there, but as you can appreciate, there are a lot of horror well. uh most horror stories as well. uh most of the trade sort of leading up to this period, which is this

really important golden quarter that businesses have. >> we represent, uh, rely on to see them through the slower period. year. period. next year. >> um, have really sort of struggled apart from second struggled apart from the second week december . week of december. >> i know november was a really challenging month. >> and christmas really >> uh, and christmas really started late. started very late. >> and similarly, year's eve >> and similarly, new year's eve has had a similar story. >> so we're seeing about a 20 to 30% downturn in trade . um, and 30% downturn in trade. um, and the challenge that we have is actually, quite rightly said that weather, particularly that the weather, particularly in north england , in the north of england, industrial action, that confidence in transport infrastructure has really been an air blow. >> so a lot of people are staying local rather than the normal transient nature of new year's eve. >> so we've a challenge ahead. >> getting a lot of these businesses and businesses across the line. and there concern that we may there is a concern that we may well quite few in the new well lose quite a few in the new year here, as we start to, uh, see that things like vat and rent and things will be due and that will be reliant on the trade, uh, during that sort of october, november, december penod october, november, december period is new year's eve in a

damp squib , i think people will damp squib, i think people will still go out and celebrate . the still go out and celebrate. the challenge that we have is whether they're going to come into cities and celebrate into the cities and celebrate in the cities, whether they're the cities, or whether they're going it at home and that going to do it at home and that that's bit that we're that's the bit that we're challenged but we're challenged with, but we're hoping that they're going be hoping that they're going to be some stories. we're some success stories. but we're definitely that long definitely concerned that long terme it's terme as we move into q1, it's going be huge challenge for going to be a huge challenge for a independent cultural a lot of independent cultural trading we know you're a travel >> lisa, we know you're a travel editor for the sun. how have people been put off by doing anything because of this nightmare situation, we find ourselves in, though ourselves in, even though they're striking now , they're not striking now, there's literally any there's literally hardly any trains weather is so bad trains and the weather is so bad that of them are being that a lot of them are being cancelled. yeah i mean, it really has been a rather grim christmas. >> eurostar, through no fault of its own, has seen its second incident in to two weeks where they've to cancel all of they've had to cancel all of their today because their trains today because of flooding near flooding at tunnels near ebbsfleet. over 30,000 ebbsfleet. that's over 30,000 passengers who were either heading to the continent or hoping come back home to the hoping to come back home to the uk all, unable to do uk. they all, now unable to do so, and there's still no sign in

sight that actually things are going to any better going to get any better tomorrow. um, we've got a lot of people both paris, people stranded in both paris, amsterdam, and london amsterdam, brussels and london unable to get to where they want to be. and we have this weather front that's going to be sweeping across the there's sweeping across the uk. there's also to causing, also going to be causing, i think, lot of concern for people. >> stephen pound . stephen pound, >> stephen pound. stephen pound, commercial extravaganza, is it? >> it's not all about pulling pints and you know , you know, pints and you know, you know, pulling anybody for that matter. >> look it's about looking forward to the rest of the year. it's about your new year's resolutions. it's about what you're for year. you're planning for the year. it's looking back it's actually looking back on what and in my what you've done and what in my case, haven't done in case, what you haven't done in the months. and the last 12 months. and anticipating you're going the last 12 months. and an do. rating you're going the last 12 months. and an do. it's|g you're going the last 12 months. and an do. it's|g family ou're going the last 12 months. and an do. it's|g family thing.]oing the last 12 months. and an do. it's|g family thing. it'sg to do. it's a family thing. it's not revellers not about great revellers roaring down the ripping roaring down the street, ripping their off behaving their clothes off and behaving outrageously. actually outrageously. it's actually about a quiet period of contemplation. sure, gather around and sing auld lang syne, but this isn't just a commercial extract , it's actually about extract, it's actually about a serious, sombre , sober moment to serious, sombre, sober moment to look forward to the year and to

make some resolutions to be, you know, better in my case, not difficult because, you know, i start from a fairly low base, but it's where we actually look how much we can be in the but it's where we actually look how 12jch we can be in the but it's where we actually look how 12 months. we can be in the next 12 months. >> well, you're staying in, aren't you, stephen? that's what that like to me. you're that sounds like to me. you're staying your house, drinking staying in your house, drinking alone of it. ah alone by the sounds of it. ah so. but what about all the local pubs? >> to be perfectly honest . >> to be perfectly honest. >> to be perfectly honest. >> but what about all the, you know, do you that because know, do you think that because of. know, do you think that because of you know, do you think that because of. you think it's of. i mean, do you think it's partly because of covid? lisa that people have changed the way they behave? and now new year's isn't that big thing because literally every new year's i would always go out. i'd go to a pub, my friends, isn't pub, meet my friends, isn't that? nowadays quite that? but nowadays i'm quite happy sit at home doing happy just to sit at home doing pretty much nothing . or maybe pretty much nothing. or maybe i'm just old. >> i think there has been real challenges since the pandemic. yes. i mean, we have seen a couple of years where obviously the industrial the the industrial action on the railways numbers of railways led to huge numbers of trains then trains being cancelled and then engineering also meant engineering work has also meant that trains have been that lots of trains have been cancelled and it must cancelled as well. and it must seem when seem for people, especially when the grim as this,

the weather is as grim as this, that it might be to just that it might be nicer to just stay home. said, stay at home. um, as you said, you been problems you know, there's been problems not eurostar, but across not just at eurostar, but across the . there's trains the country. there's no trains at northern routes at all. on six northern routes today , and there won't be today, and there won't be tomorrow either. so, i mean , it tomorrow either. so, i mean, it really is a bit of an issue in terms of people finding it very difficult to get places and perhaps deciding that you know what, i'm not going to risk it yet again, i have my plans ruined again . yet again, i have my plans ruined again. i'm going to ruined yet again. i'm going to perhaps at home. perhaps just stay at home. >> them. listen, perhaps just stay at home. >> got them. listen, perhaps just stay at home. >> got to them. listen, perhaps just stay at home. >> got to say them. listen, perhaps just stay at home. >> got to say thank m. listen, perhaps just stay at home. >> got to say thank you isten, perhaps just stay at home. >> got to say thank you so an, i've got to say thank you so much to lisa minow. also michael, um, michael and michael, um, michael kill and also labour mp stephen also former labour mp stephen pound.thank also former labour mp stephen pound. thank much for pound. thank you so much for your new year your thoughts. happy new year to you. it's tomorrow, you. even though it's tomorrow, i won't speak to i probably won't get to speak to you.so i probably won't get to speak to you. so what think? you. so yeah. what do you think? is of a damp squib? are is it a bit of a damp squib? are you planning to stay at home? what are planning to do for what are you planning to do for new views news. new year's? gb views gb news. com me news 32 com or tweet me at gb b news 32 minutes 5:00 i'm nana minutes after 5:00 i'm nana akua. are live on tv on akua. we are live on tv on onune akua. we are live on tv on online and digital radio. online and on digital radio. don't can download don't forget you can download the app where can the gb news app where you can check programmes on check out all the programmes on the up, the channel, but coming up, we'll with that great we'll continue with that great british and british debate this hour. and

i'm is new year's eve a i'm asking is new year's eve a damp squib? you'll hear the thoughts and thoughts of my panel author and broadcaster hamilton, broadcaster christine hamilton, also journalist broadcaster christine hamilton, also kelly. journalist broadcaster christine hamilton, also kelly. but journalist broadcaster christine hamilton, also kelly. but first,)urnalist danny kelly. but first, let's get latest news with sophia i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you nana. it's 532. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. thousands thousands of people's new year's plans have been thrown into chaos after eurostar cancelled all to eurostar cancelled all trains to and from london. the company apologised after what it said was unprecedented flooding in a number of tunnels , including number of tunnels, including under the thames, up to 35,000 passengers have been affected , passengers have been affected, with many left stranded at london's saint pancras station. some have taken to social media to vent their frustrations, saying they were only told about the cancellations at 8:00 this morning and forecasters are warning people to take care ahead of new year celebrations as heavy rain and strong winds are expected in many parts of the country , with parts of the country, with parts of scotland likely to see significant levels of snow . the

significant levels of snow. the met office says yellow alerts are in place until 3 am. tomorrow for. a murder investigation has been launched after a 29 year old man was stabbed in northwest london. emergency crews were called to the scene at the abbey estate near saint john's wood , just near saint john's wood, just after 730 on friday evening . the after 730 on friday evening. the victim, who hasn't been named , victim, who hasn't been named, was taken to hospital but he later died. a cordon is in place near the famous abbey road crossing while detectives investigate . no arrests have yet investigate. no arrests have yet been made . and you can get more been made. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now it's back to .. nana it's back to.. nana >> thank you sophia i'm nana akua this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, i'll be testing my panel on some of the other stories hitting the headunes other stories hitting the headlines right now in my quick fire quiz . get ready play fire quiz. get ready to play along at

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damp squib ? let's have a quick damp squib? let's have a quick look at what you've been saying. dave says new year's eve used to be my favourite night of the yeah be my favourite night of the year. the whole street would be my favourite night of the year. 'togethera street would be my favourite night of the year. 'together and aet would be my favourite night of the year. 'together and celebrate . we come together and celebrate. we don't the community spirit don't have the community spirit anymore . i know what you mean. anymore. i know what you mean. harriet says new year's eve is a great to start the new year great way to start the new year with a hangover. it's much better an early night and better to get an early night and start the new year fresh and healthy. like that, and jack healthy. i like that, and jack says like people says, like many people in hospitality , i'll be working on hospitality, i'll be working on new year's eve, double pay and no disappointment. it's a good deal no disappointment. it's a good deal. very good, i like that, but what do you think? is it a damp for squid you? so time now for the great british debate. this art and i'm asking is new year's eve damp squib? joining year's eve a damp squib? joining me my panel, broadcaster me now, my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny and and journalist danny kelly and also author also broadcaster and author christine hamilton, danny kelly. is a squib? no no. is it a damp squib? no no. >> mail will send >> the daily mail will send reports eaters to northern towns and cities and january the and cities, and on january the 1st, and cities, and on january the ist, 2024, and cities, and on january the 1st, 2024, the daily mail online on digital platform will have photographs, hundreds of photographs, hundreds of photographs of scouse women

spewing up in the gutters of inner city liverpool, wearing next and sunderland and up north and in sunderland and wearing next to nothing in sunderland, sunderland in newcastle , in sunderland in newcastle, in bristol, in leeds, in bristol, in london, every city centre will be rammed. every town centre will be rammed, london will be rammed and do you think? yes. and all the millions. yes. and all of the millions. khanis yes. and all of the millions. khan is from the ulez khan is made from the ulez expansion . all of those fines expansion. all of those fines you wait to see the you wait to see what the firework going be firework display is going to be like. it's going to be the best in world. those 12.5 in the world. and all those 12.5 quids like i've had to pay today , set it on , gone towards it, set it on fire. it's going to be a great new year's eve, but i understand new year's eve, but i understand new year's eve ain't for everybody. a lot of people get depressed and miserable at new year's i completely year's eve, and i completely get it. completely. year's eve, and i completely get it. for completely. year's eve, and i completely get it. for courses. letely. >> horses for courses. >> horses for courses. >> about you, >> horses. what about you, christine? you're partying because guys are coming because you guys are not coming here we're coming here tomorrow. we're not coming here. >> no, can't % can't tomorrow. here. >> because an't tomorrow. here. >> because i'm tomorrow. here. >> because i'm going:omorrow. here. >> because i'm going offorrow. no, because i'm going off wonderful new year party and it'll be fabulous. you know, it'll be fabulous. but you know, some years, if i haven't been ianed invited to a really good party or hosting a even or we're not hosting a even better course , um,

better party. of course, um, just let it go. it's not a sort of be all and end. i don't feel i'm out not i'm missing out if i'm not celebrate new year, and i have been known to go to bed before midnight on new year's eve. but hey, be hey, come on, don't be curmudgeonly. you're you curmudgeonly. if you're if you want celebrate, but want to celebrate, do. but i know people overdo it know the people who overdo it like you described is not restrict northern towns. restrict to northern towns. >> know what i said the >> i know what i said was the daily mail will only send them to they won't. >> no they won't. >> no they won't. >> will. i guarantee it. >> no they will. i guarantee it. >> no they will. i guarantee it. >> well, we will. you know that. >> well, we will. you know that. >> listen, i tell you what i want to do. i'm going to go to a pub dont want to do. i'm going to go to a pub don't normally go. i'll pub i don't normally go. i'll probably my house drinking probably be in my house drinking champagne on own, i'm champagne on my own, but i'm quite with that. but quite happy with that. but i would go the local would probably go to the local pub then just start pub quickly and then just start the though it isn't. >> 1009 |] isn't. >> 1009 || |] isn't. >> 1009 || isn't. >> 1009 n i like , what >> 1009 what i what i like, what i the countdown that you i like is the countdown that you see, if you've got a television on, countdown from on, you see the countdown from the of the world and the other side of the world and you see it coming closer and closer. think that's amazing. you see it coming closer and clozls'. think that's amazing. you see it coming closer and clozls'. tiwhen|at's amazing. you see it coming closer and clozls'. tiwhen you amazing. you see it coming closer and clozls'. tiwhen you do azing. you see it coming closer and clozls'. tiwhen you do theig. >> is this when you do the countdown, it's like, all countdown, then it's like, all right, home now . that's right, let's go home now. that's what the end. what happens at the end. >> remember dreadful >> do you remember that dreadful new millennium new year when the millennium dome was opened tony blair

dome was opened and tony blair was charge of country? was in charge of the country? um, queen was um, and he was the queen was there, he tried to the there, and he tried to get the queen to cross arms and do old things, anybody. she things, like anybody. no she doesn't. blame somebody. >> hadn't told tony was somebody. >> ha of t told tony was somebody. >> ha of the ld tony was somebody. >> ha of the covid' was somebody. >> ha of the covid game.as ahead of the covid game. >> i won't the most >> i won't judge you the most excruciating footage imaginable. >> i won't judge you the most excructoing footage imaginable. >> i won't judge you the most excructo midnight.3 imaginable. >> i won't judge you the most excructo midnight. iimaginable. >> i won't judge you the most excructo midnight. i will|inable. >> i won't judge you the most excructo midnight. i will be ble. a 20s to midnight. i will be sent out out of my mum and dad's house, where wife and i will house, where my wife and i will be of coal and bread and be piece of coal and bread and salt. i think it is. i'm not sure what they signify, but i will banished to to the the will be banished to to the the to the, to the street. and at midnight my father will midnight i and my father will let me in, and i come in bearing. i'm sure it's not. i'm sure salt. and bread. sure it's salt. and bread. >> coal is what >> cold coal is what i understood it to be, i'm sure. >> well, know that it's bread >> well, i know that it's bread and >> well, i know that it's bread ancsomebody there tell please. >> what is it? these two >> what is it? tell these two dimwits significant. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> but this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome great british let's welcome our great british voices show. their voices onto the show. their opportunity us opportunity to be on and tell us what about the topics what they think about the topics we're discussing today. i've got four you. i'm to four of you. yeah i'm going to start with you, from start with you, alan cook from london. little london. i'm expecting a little glass something. always glass of something. he's always got something. alan is new

year's a squib ? year's a damp squib? >> yes. he has. >>— >> yes. he has. >> well, i'll have some afterwards. >> ah. what is it? just water this time. just water. >> just water. >> just water. >> uh, what? >> uh, what? >> i think is it's down to the individual . >> i think is it's down to the individual. so i would say it's a dry squib, which is obviously a dry squib, which is obviously a firework, not a damp squib . a firework, not a damp squib. >> and, uh, because you can, you can do as you please on new year's. it's an arbitrary date anyway . it has no real historic anyway. it has no real historic significance. we adopted . the significance. we adopted. the gregorian calendar 440 years ago. so i see it as an arbitrary line. it's a time for reforming change so you can improve your life and change and reform. i think , gives opportunity and hope. >> so i see the new year as a chance to improve your life. >> yeah. bringing something on board now. julie ford in bedford , you're repeating yourself. god i've lost you. i can't hear you . i've lost you. i can't hear you. >> yeah, i am just going to answer. >> danny's question very quickly

for him. it's bread. >> so your house never goes hungry . hungry. >> it's salt. so your life always has flavour and it's cold, so you'll always be warm. >> are are you need to thank her. >> thank her. >> thank her. >> thank her. >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. >> julie. thank you very much indeed. >> yeah, that's no problem. >> yeah, that's no problem. >> to answer the question >> but to answer the question that on for that i've been brought on for today. yeah. so, julie, very briefly, some. briefly, is it for some. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> me personally, as >> um, but for me personally, as i've got older, it's one of those i prefer pyjamas those things i prefer my pyjamas and a glass of champagne in front the telly. front of the telly. >> and you on that, i love >> and with you on that, i love that. yes thank you for that. julie. jones, he's julie. uh, jonathan jones, he's there cornwall. jonathan nana. >> yeah, i'm sitting the >> yeah, i'm sitting in the ulverton, probably ulverton, which is probably where my tea where i was taking my tea celebration take place, drinking tea. >> and do you know what? it's a time new year's resolutions time for new year's resolutions and healthy new habits. >> and the world's first tea column starts in the country life magazine next week. >> so great. great excitement for 2024. cheers >> hmm. well, let's hope in 2024 you'll have my reiki tea ready as well, because you've been promising that and i haven't got

it yet. >> on its way to p on its way to you. >> it's on its way to you. >>— >> it's on its way to you. >> good. all jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sampson isn't auburn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sar hello. isn't auburn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit'slo. isn't auburn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not;n't auburn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not a t auburn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not a damprrn's. jacqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not a damp squib acqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not a damp squib toqui >> good. all right. jacqui sarit's not a damp squib to me, >> it's not a damp squib to me, but i think when you go to these, um, hyped up new year's eve special nights out , they're eve special nights out, they're just overpriced with bad service and food. the best new and bad food. the best new year's, the ones i love is when any local establishments i frequent regularly, they shut it to the public, open it to regulars and it's like a private party, which is what i will be doing this year as i welcome in 2024, because it's a milestone birthday me . birthday year for me. >> so how old are you? 21. that 21? yeah yeah, yeah, that's what i thought. that's what i thought. yeah thank you very much. jacqui thank you also to alan, julie and jonathan. lovely to speak to you. there's my great british voices. thank you. right well listen, moving on to a story that my eye a story that caught my eye today. we've been taken on today. it's we've been taken on a roller coaster ride and not literally roller literally because the roller coaster moving coaster isn't moving by our railway network many people railway network with many people unable home for the new unable to get home for the new year to train delays year due to train delays and cancellations, today my mini

debate i'm asking it time debate i'm asking is it time to nationalise ? right? nationalise our railway? right? let's speak to my panellist gary lineker. no, not gary lineker . lineker. no, not gary lineker. oh, i've got gary lineker on the brain. danny kelly and also christine hamilton. christine, is it time to. we need to nationalise. >> absolutely not. no, i mean, anyone who thinks nationalisation is the answer wasn't in the and wasn't around in the 60s and 70s when railway railway were an when the railway railway were an absolute disaster. the problem is that it isn't pure privatisation that we've got at the moment. the department of transport still has far too much control . and if you look at control. and if you look at industries that are nationalised , i mean, the nhs is nationalised . is that a good nationalised. is that a good example? >> well, just because you've example? >> witl, just because you've example? >> wit badly, because you've example? >> wit badly, you use you've example? >> wit badly, you can you've example? >> wit badly, you can learn; done it badly, you can learn from errors. from your errors. >> but if an industry is nationalised, the they are competing capital investment competing for capital investment with all the other taxpayer funded things and the decisions made about it become political, whereas decisions for to run any industry efficiently, it should be economic, not political, but it's political anyway. >> you've got the unions who are negotiating with government negotiating with the government holding because the holding up all the because the government power

government has too much power over franchise companies. over the franchise companies. >> just they have >> they just they have a monopoly in each individual area. isn't enough area. so there isn't enough competition. what the government should should take should do is they should take the it going to be £180 the was it going to be £180 million that they were spending on they spend that on hs2? and if they spend that on hs2? and if they spend that on cross, cross country on cross, cross, cross country railway lines, which is where they should have made the rail investment the moment too investment at the moment too many up many people have to go from up there into london and out again instead of being able to go straight that's the straight across. that's the sort of do to of thing we need to do to improve railway infrastructure. >> i don't have problem with >> i don't have a problem with the nationalisation. oh, i do , i the nationalisation. oh, i do, i don't is right. i think don't and nan is right. i think we learn from our mistakes . we can learn from our mistakes. i never do. i don't think we never do. >> i think we're capable >> well, i think we're capable of learning from mistakes. >> disagree with >> and although i disagree with mick lynch, the union boss of the that he was the rmt, one thing that he was always on about was the, always going on about was the, the, dividends that the the, the dividends that the private shareholders were terrible, terrible. and he was using that as the reason why they should not continue as they are. so the trains were running terribly. i'm generalising. some people will be very happy with their services, but the trains

were poorly. you were running poorly. you yourself a nightmare journey yourself had a nightmare journey today, that's because today, albeit that's because somebody line. somebody got on the line. >> i get that, but >> no, i know i get that, but but over the festive period, lots cancellations , lots of lots of cancellations, lots of lots of cancellations, lots of lots works on on the strikes lots of works on on the strikes as well. lot of the problems as well. a lot of the problems that get this point . that danny get to this point. >> in summary , i would >> so, so in summary, i would give another opportunity. >> think are certain >> i think there are certain things life that maybe the things in life that maybe the government nationalise . government should nationalise. and all got criticism and yes, we've all got criticism of the national health service, but it's at the but at least it's free at the point needing the can't say point of needing the can't say that about the railways . that about the railways. >> privatise that though i'd privatise wouldn't have privatise that. i wouldn't have that going like that. >> of the problems on the >> most of the problems on the railways get to the railways let me just get to the end that, because think end of that, because i think they're essentials. end of that, because i think they' used ;entials. end of that, because i think they' used to tials. end of that, because i think they' used to disagree with end of that, because i think they'used to disagree with nana >> i used to disagree with nana about privatisation, the about the privatisation, the nationalisation of water, and i think decent thing think that that's a decent thing because we all need water to survive. certain survive. and there are certain things where people profit and they ahead of they put profits ahead of service. that's they're in service. that's why they're in business. business to business. they're in business to maximise for maximise the potential for profit shady business business, shady business practice, suffer practice, the people who suffer are briefly, christine , water is >> briefly, christine, water is an essential. >> so food. don't we >> so is food. why don't we nationalise food ?

nationalise food? >> why? doesn't make sense >> why? that doesn't make sense though, will though, because some people will eat more than others. >> because. >> because. >> the reason why >> because we. the reason why our food isn't even more expensive than it is because we have the supermarket that competing make any competing doesn't even make any sense. it does. it doesn't. it does. >> well, no it doesn't, it doesn't give me time to elaborate. >> comes out of the tap at >> water comes out of the tap at home, the average bill is, home, and the average bill is, say, two, 2 £300 quarter, say, two, 2 or £300 a quarter, whereas food bill is whereas the average food bill is 2 or 3000. >> but saying that >> but you're saying that because is essential, it because water is essential, it must nationalised. i'm saying must be nationalised. i'm saying food the service i >> -- >> one is a service, the other one is a service. the other one is something that you buy and people, the last thing you want is the government. >> and politicians interfering in absolutely. in these things. absolutely. well, . well, listen. >> thank for that. >> well thank you for that. that's to run on it. that's going to run on isn't it. crikey we should done that that's going to run on isn't it. cri the we should done that that's going to run on isn't it. cri the main|ould done that that's going to run on isn't it. cri the main debate. done that that's going to run on isn't it. cri the main debate. butone that that's going to run on isn't it. cri the main debate. but it's that as the main debate. but it's time for quick fire time now for our quick fire quiz. this is the part the quiz. this is the part of the show test panel on show where i test my panel on some other stories some of the other stories hitting the headlines right now. so journalist and so joining me. journalist and broadcaster kelly. danny, so joining me. journalist and broa

the quiz. so just to let them know. you at home you don't know. and you at home you don't buzz until i finish the question . otherwise be ejected . otherwise you'll be ejected from seat . i've got from your seat. i've got a booster under yours, danny. right, right. so question one. uh, along at home. a uh, please play along at home. a woman trying to sue giant woman is trying to sue giant hershey. uh, over their halloween themed peanut butter treats that didn't match the packaging. but what did she. what, like what didn't she like about it? was it a the chocolate had nothing to do with halloween b, the chocolate was too small. c there was a lack of a smiley face on the chocolate. very hard question. >> christine hamilton i haven't got the slightest idea, but i'm going to go for c smiley face. >> what do you think, danny? i don't know what i was talking about. >> well, i'm going to go with a, you know, you read you know, when you read something, don't know something, you don't know what you're saying. >> either. >> let's see whether either. i bet going to be b in it. no bet it's going to be b in it. no it's c oh, lack of a lack of a smiley on the chocolate. smiley face on the chocolate. very done. to you very good. well done. one to you christine. question christine. all right. question two caused by two breakdowns caused by animals. main animals. one of the main pains for year. but for motorists this year. but what animal is causing the most

problem . um, is it a rats b dogs problem. um, is it a rats b dogs or c birds ? i'm going with danny kelly. >> c birds, christine hamilton, press your buzzer if you want to answer. >> i did . >> i did. >> i did. >> yeah well , >> i did. >> yeah well, i'll go for d dogs. >> uh, a rat, rats, rats, a d rats .i >> uh, a rat, rats, rats, a d rats . i have no >> uh, a rat, rats, rats, a d rats. i have no idea. >> i think it actually is rats. the answer is rats. yes, there was a story. because rats. you should know this. you've got a car thingy thing. um you you've got the car dealership. they've been in chewing cables been going in chewing the cables underneath bonnets. underneath people's bonnets. that's right. yeah. >> infestation and chewing. >> but they've been coming. this is a big deal. >> this is what i've never had any except for some dodgy customers. never customers. i've never had one rat the dealership. rat in the dealership. some dodgy that pizza dodgy customers that leave pizza under dodgy customers that leave pizza unc hey. all right. all right. >> hey. all right. all right. question three. closest answer wins wetherspoon boss tim martin was knighted in this year's new honours list. but how many wetherspoons are there in total in the uk? please after you buzzer first. after you buzzer oh . oh. >> are we not being given a

clue. >> no no no no after you wins go on. after you got the buzzer to say one um 260 200 i'm going for eight 800, 800. >> closest answer wins . and the >> closest answer wins. and the answer is . 811 811. answer is. 811 811. >> i heard you on the radio. >> i heard you on the radio. >> did you? wow >> did you? wow >> yeah, yeah. do you go to wetherspoons? >> yeah. wetherspoons is great. it's for the working class. cheap booze, cheap bail friendly environment and they don't play music. >> was gonna that's the >> i was gonna say that's the worst it. worst thing about it. >> up your buy one >> fill up your coffee, buy one cup coffee and you can keep cup of coffee and you can keep filling it. >> yeah, well, i don't drink coffee music, so i'm coffee and i love music, so i'm not in right now. question not going in right now. question four true or false? exercising more new more is the most common new year's resolution. buzzers first. christine hamilton. true. probably danny kelly. >> no, i think false . i think >> no, i think false. i think alcohol or ciggies is more common. >> do you think the answer is it's true ? it's true? >> it's true? yes it is true. people like to exercise more. >> never been my resolution. >> never been my resolution. >> it's definitely been mine. of my five point plan. i'm going to get up. i'm going to go to bed at 9:00. get up at 5 am, go to

the gym at six. yeah, yeah, yeah, right. question six rebecca welsh became the first woman referee match the woman to referee a match in the history premier league. history of the premier league. but what she do? what did but what did she do? what did she work out before ? she work out before? >> haven't the slightest. >> i haven't got the slightest. you're the footie. >> supposed to something you're the footie. >christine pposed to something you're the footie. >christine hamilton. something , christine hamilton. say something . yeah. something. yeah. >> waitress. >> um. waitress. >> um. waitress. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> quick lap dancer. >> quick lap dancer. >> lap dancer. oh are they laugh. she worked in an office as an administrator for the nhs. we could have had some clues today, but we didn't. but anyway. listen. well done. i think. who won that? i did, danny, i did . think. who won that? i did, danny, i did. no, think. who won that? i did, danny, i did . no, no, think. who won that? i did, danny, i did. no, no, i think. who won that? i did, danny, i did . no, no, i won danny, i did. no, no, i won neither one right on neither of them. one right on today's asking, neither of them. one right on to ours asking, neither of them. one right on to our police asking, neither of them. one right on to our police force asking, neither of them. one right on to our police force broken;king, neither of them. one right on to our police force broken on g, is our police force broken on repair? and according to our twitter poll, 84% of say yes twitter poll, 84% of you say yes , 16% of you say no. wow oh, crikey. terrible indictment. well that seems to be the way it is. i've got to say. thank you so much to my panel. uh, broadcaster and journalist, danny. thank you very much indeed.thank danny. thank you very much indeed. thank you very much. and also, thank so much to you. also, thank you so much to you. christine hamilton, author and

broadcaster. you. broadcaster. thank you. >> thank very much. nana >> thank you very much. nana broadcaster. goodness. >> thank you very much. nana bro we're er. goodness. >> thank you very much. nana bro we're not goodness. >> thank you very much. nana bro we're not going)dness. >> thank you very much. nana bro we're not going)drsee you >> we're not going to see you looking wonderful in orange. >> next year >> fabulous. it'll be next year before again i know before we meet again i know i feel hear song coming. before we meet again i know i feelwe'll song coming. before we meet again i know i feelwe'll meet ;ong coming. before we meet again i know i feelwe'll meet again.�*ming. before we meet again i know i feelwe'll meet again. don't know >> we'll meet again. don't know where i actually next week actually. saturday, 3:00. actually. uh saturday, 3:00. same same but i'm same time, same place. but i'm back tomorrow at 3:00. make sure you join me. it'll be a new year's eve festive occasion . and year's eve festive occasion. and joining me will be matthew laza and perry. so i look and also lois perry. so i look forward to seeing you then. take care and have a fabulous evening. up next it is called it is of course, the saturday five and well, i'll be there as well. so see you in about about so i'll see you in about about eight or minutes. eight or so minutes. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler as sponsors of whether on . gb news. hello there. >> welcome to your latest gp news, weather forecast i'm craig snow. well looking ahead to new year's eve for many of us really we're to a mixture of we're going to see a mixture of sunny spells and heavy showers. still windy . and that's still quite windy. and that's all courtesy of area of low

all courtesy of this area of low pressure, going pressure, which is only going to slowly across the country slowly move across the country as this weekend. as we go through this weekend. note tightly packed isobars, note the tightly packed isobars, especially the south, so especially across the south, so some and gusty winds, some strong and gusty winds, especially as we go through the course of today and tonight as we go into the evening, this band of heavy and squally rain will spread its way eastwards . will spread its way eastwards. behind mixture of clear behind it, a mixture of clear spells and scattered showers that rain quite persistent . that rain quite persistent. later on in the night across shetland and orkney. but for many temperatures still above freezing could just see a touch of frost across scotland, where we still will see a little bit of sleet and snow into new year's eve itself . generally a year's eve itself. generally a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers, showers mainly focussed across the west. initially before transferring their way eastwards during the course of the day. some heavy, possibly thundery showers too, and note across shetland and orkney that rain continues to persist. best of the conditions as we see at 2023, it looks likely to be across the far north of scotland . new year's

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an entire year.