from the gb news room. latest from the gb news room. rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his new year message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous year which saw inflation halved and record investment in the nhs . that's investment in the nhs. that's despite junior doctors in england planning their longest walkout in nhs history. next month. the prime minister says his new year's resolution is to keep driving forward . keep driving forward. >> inflation is set to fall further , cutting the cost of further, cutting the cost of living for everyone and we're not stopping there . we're going not stopping there. we're going further to grow our economy by reducing debt, cutting taxes and rewarding hard work . reducing debt, cutting taxes and rewarding hard work. building secure supplies of energy here at home, backing british business and delivering world class . education class. education >> meanwhile, the labour leader says the power to shape the future of britain rests in everyone's hands. sir keir starmers message offered a preview of his party's election

campaign, saying 2024 needs to give britain its future back in the labour party. >> we've been building to this for four years. we're confident we have a plan that can move our country forward, end . the cost country forward, end. the cost of living crisis, take back our streets, get the nhs back on its feet, cheaper energy bills for your home, more opportunities for your children . for your children. >> boris johnson's former chief adviser says rishi sunak tried to strike what he called a secret deal in a bid to win the next election. dominic cummings told the sunday times that he was prepared to help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were prioritised . that reportedly includes overhauling defence capabilities and preparing for future pandemics. number 10 did not deny the report, but says mr cummings was not offered a position on eurostar. trains are back in service today after a burst pipe derailed travel plans

for thousands of passengers , as for thousands of passengers, as all eurostar trains between london and paris came to a halt yesterday as water flooded a tunnel beneath the river thames, many passengers were left facing expensive hotel bills, while others desperately searched for alternative travel routes. services are running normally today, but congestion is expected while the backlog is cleared . the us navy has cleared. the us navy has thwarted an attempt by militants from the houthi group to board a container ship in the red sea, the us says four vessels from houthi controlled areas in yemen fired at the ship and came dangerously close to boarding it. in response, helicopter from nearby us warships sunk three of the boats. the houthis , who are the boats. the houthis, who are backed by iran, have stepped up attacks on merchant ships as they travel through one of the world's most important freight routes. the group says the attacks are in response to the conflict in gaza . the now conflict in gaza. the now loudspeakers and tourist groups are to be banned in venice as

the italian city looks to clamp down on rowdy visitors . from down on rowdy visitors. from june, groups larger than 25 people will be blocked from gathering in public spaces. the city is also cracking down on the use of noisy speakers amid complaints locals. they complaints from locals. they cause confusion and disturbance. it follows the introduction of a £4.30 entry fee for tourists in september . venice is one of september. venice is one of europe's most popular destinations , but residents have destinations, but residents have complained that too many visitors are ruining the city's character . the australian character. the australian journalist john pilger has died at the age of 84. he came to prominence in the 1960s as chief foreign correspondent . for the foreign correspondent. for the daily mirror in london. the youngest person to receive britain's prestigious journalist of award. he was also britain's prestigious journalist of first award. he was also britain's prestigious journalist of first to award. he was also britain's prestigious journalist of first to win rd. he was also britain's prestigious journalist of first to win it. he was also britain's prestigious journalist of first to win it twice as also britain's prestigious journalist of first to win it twice .s also britain's prestigious journalist of first to win it twice . never the first to win it twice. never far from controversy , his many far from controversy, his many acclaimed documentaries and books harshly criticised british foreign policy. he was also an outspoken critic of the bbc s impartiality rule and decried mainstream media for what he saw

as favouring corporate interests over those of ordinary people . over those of ordinary people. and happy new year to japan. south korea and australia. that's after the clock struck midnight in sydney, just hours ago. the famous harbour bridge in sydney opera house were alight with colours and sparkle , with with colours and sparkle, with fireworks bursting from landmarks and boats scattered throughout the water. earlier, the sky tower in auckland, new zealand, was illuminated in blazing colour as the country became one of the first to chime in the new year , though it was in the new year, though it was beaten by the pacific nation of kiribati, entered the new kiribati, which entered the new year at 10:00 this morning . this year at 10:00 this morning. this is gb news across your across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . nana

now back to. nana >> hello and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. it's fast approaching six minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion . this show is all about opinion. it's mine, theirs. and of it's mine, it's theirs. and of course yours. we'll course it's yours. we'll be debating it. at times debating discussing it. at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour is, uh, broadcaster and journalist lois perry, and also former labour adviser matthew laza . uh, but adviser matthew laza. uh, but right now, going head to head in a clash of minds, conservative peer lord daniel moylan also a former labour democrat minister, norman baker. so here's what's coming up this afternoon uk officials are warned of a possible record year of channel migrant crossings in 2024 after a huge surge in illegal migrations and crossings into this country. we'll hear the latest with our home and

security editor. then xl bully dogs must be kept on a lead and muzzled when out in public as new laws are introduced today. but is banning the breed enough? or should all dogs over a certain weight be muzzled ? then certain weight be muzzled? then dominic cummings says that he has held secret talks . very has held secret talks. very secret because we're all talking about it with rishi sunak about how to defeat labour in a general election. could the former number 10 adviser be the prime minister's secret weapon? then the uk's sparkling wine industry ? we will be raising industry? we will be raising a glass as eu restrictions affecting their . business are affecting their. business are well and truly scrapped. but which red tape would you like to see cut as we enter a brand new year? now that's all coming up in the next hour. as ever. tell me think on everything me what you think on everything we're . email we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right, so it's time

to go head to head in a clash of minds on the first topic, it's uk officials . minds on the first topic, it's uk officials. now minds on the first topic, it's uk officials . now they're being uk officials. now they're being warned of a possible record year of channel migrant crossings in 2024, after huge surge in 2024, after a huge surge in illegal migrants entering the european union. small boat crossings this year reached 29,498. that's a 35% reduction on last year . 29,498. that's a 35% reduction on last year. but despite uk government claims that it's going to stop the boats and the policies are working , sources policies are working, sources have told gb news that they're bracing for the arrival of some of the many thousands who entered europe illegally in recent months. a home and security editor , mark white, security editor, mark white, reports . reports. >> the prime minister has pledged to stop the boats and the numbers crossing the channel. this year have reduced . channel. this year have reduced. but in truth, every time, whether conditions allow the people smugglers push these small boats into the water and around 30,000 people still made the crossing this year, only adding to the migrant crisis in

the camps. scattered across northern france, thousands , northern france, thousands, thousands are still waiting for their weather window for the chance to reach the uk , and chance to reach the uk, and sources have told us they'll be joined by thousands of others in the months ahead. some of the huge influx of migrants who crossed into europe in recent months . i crossed into europe in recent months. i mean, this one's still got its ear in it, so it just tells you that this boat run aground, really within recent weeks. we reported earlier in the year from the italian island of lampedo , gaza, where tens of of lampedo, gaza, where tens of thousands of migrants arrived in boats from north africa , italy, boats from north africa, italy, spain, greece and multiple other european countries . all saw european countries. all saw massive increases in migrant arrivals. this year. many of those are still working their way north, and a significant proportion will try to cross the channel a key component of the uk government stop the boats strategy is, of course, the

rwanda deal. despite the conveyor belt of legal challenges , the government and challenges, the government and many conservative mps are convinced that sending asylum seekers to the east african nafion seekers to the east african nation will help smash the people smugglers business model. >> the people who are dealing with the huge case in northern france said that as part of a suite of immigration policies , a suite of immigration policies, a deterrent is needed. why is austria looking at this? why is germany looking at this? why is the us looking why the us looking at this? why italy looking at this? because it is recognised in world we italy looking at this? because it is incognised in world we italy looking at this? because it is in thatised in world we italy looking at this? because it is in that wei in world we italy looking at this? because it is in that we have world we italy looking at this? because it is in that we have to world we italy looking at this? because it is in that we have to world ae live in that we have to have a deterrent the european deterrent across the european union, bloc still union, the bloc is still grappling with how to best stem the flow of illegal migrants , the flow of illegal migrants, with some countries taking markedly different approaches . markedly different approaches. >> analysts believe the human tide of arrivals will only continue to grow. >> this is simply because frontex , the organisation that's frontex, the organisation that's responsible for patrolling the eu's external borders, doesn't have enough resources , doesn't have enough resources, doesn't have enough resources, doesn't have enough resources, doesn't have enough boats, and there's a lack of coordination between ,

lack of coordination between, uh, other european countries . uh, other european countries. uh, there's also an ideological divide within the eu itself . how divide within the eu itself. how are you ? are you? >> no one's grown up here. >> no one's grown up here. >> 2024 is a pivotal year for rishi sunak. he'll have to go to the country trying to convince the country trying to convince the electorate that it's his policies which are key to controlling illegal migration in a quick and positive decision on rwanda is needed . but even then, rwanda is needed. but even then, with thousands of migrants en route to northern france, it's likely border force officials will be busier than ever. mark white right, so that is an exclusive here on gb news. >> and frankly, who's who do you trust to deal with controlling our borders? i mean, that's the question for my head to head. is today formal liberal democratic minister norman baker also conservative peer lord daniel moylan. all right. i'm going to start with you, norman baker. right what do you think? who do you trust to control all our

borders? >> i think the matter is beyond political control from individual parties. >> so i'm not going to suggest that one party has got a better answer than the other. what we've got here is a situation where there are world forces at a happening both through the unstable nature of particular regimes and the desire for people to improve their living standards. climate change is having an impact on some countries, and there is a massive pressure building. so, you know what the solutions being put forward are. how do we keep the lid on the pressure cooker? whereas the ultimate solution is how can we actually reduce the pressure inside the cooken reduce the pressure inside the cooker, easy. cooker, which is not easy. and it's process, but it's a long terme process, but we in the west have actually helped to destabilise some countries where countries in the world where people have like iraq people we have places like iraq and so on, where people are actually coming from. we actually coming from. so we have actually coming from. so we have a to recognise a responsibility to recognise that. a responsibility to recognise that . but if a responsibility to recognise that. but if you're asking me, can we deal with this problem in 2024, or is it going to get worse? i suspect it will get

worse. that's the reality of it . worse. that's the reality of it. >> well, nonetheless, do it >> well, nonetheless, we do it properly. daniel >> i think that's lot of >> i think that's a lot of liberal democrat waffle. really. honestly it's just a way of talking from the subject. talking away from the subject. first of all, party does matter because are views because there are two views about, migrants. the about, um, about migrants. the first is that people who are not genuine refugees are people who should be identified and taken away. that they're cheating the system, that they're getting round, you know, instead of making for a job, making an application for a job, as people do , larger as many people do, far larger numbers . they get round it in numbers do. they get round it in this way and that they should be taken away sent home? that's taken away and sent home? that's one there's one attitude. and there's another which these another attitude which is these people welcomed . people have to be welcomed. whatever their origins, whatever their is. we need to their background is. we need to go down to calais and feed them. we do of that . and we need to do all of that. and these, these attitudes these, these two attitudes are represented in political party terms. and i think you've got to choose which one you want. and i happen to know which one i want. but choose but i think you need to choose which and think which one you want and think about you go to the about it. when you go to the polls this polls in the course of this yean polls in the course of this year, suppose , as year, as i suppose, as i suppose, we'll be having a

general that's general election. um, that's that's the first thing. second thing is, um, i do at least understand the rationale of what the government's policy is. i don't understand the rationale of what the labour party is saying, how it's going to stop the boats and the third the small boats and the third thing is, while i agree with norman, of course, that there are unstable regimes, there is poverty there reasons poverty and there are reasons for people wanting travel. what i transformed i think has been transformed, emotive is not emotive in all of this is not climate change. what's transformative is that people have a business opportunity have seen a business opportunity . and when you see when you as a customer suddenly see there's a business on your, you know, on your high street practically saying, to saying, we can get you to britain, it's terribly easy and you think about it you don't have to think about it anymore. it's no longer huge anymore. it's no longer a huge channel. . you channel. channel challenge. you just pays your money and they ship you over and you're managed through find you're put through till you find you're put on a boat in calais. when you have easy that, then of have it as easy as that, then of course a lot of people will take that , which is why that opportunity, which is why destroying business is that destroying the business is that are underneath. is so important. >> yeah. because look, i hear

your approach, daniel. for me heanng your approach, daniel. for me hearing you, it norman, it sounds like you're almost absorbing all responsibility of the situation and kind of saying that. well the reason these poor people are coming is because we've destabilised it . and we've destabilised it. and that's partly because of climate change. yeah, but but i think there's a larger portion of it. it's a business, isn't it? this is a smugglers business. people trafficking. there are smugglers model . model. >> of there model. » of model. >> of there are. and >> of course there are. and there money >> of course there are. and the|of money >> of course there are. and the|of it's money >> of course there are. and the|of it's not money >> of course there are. and the|of it's not veryioney out of misery. it's not very easy.i out of misery. it's not very easy. i mean, daniel podence has been very easy to get here, actually you were on a small actually. if you were on a small inflatable across channel, inflatable across the channel, you've chance you've got a pretty good chance of a not an of sinking. it's not a not an easy to go on, but easy option to go on, but i mean, but if you'd be picked up by, rescued . well, some by, you'd be rescued. well, some there people who die at sea, there are people who die at sea, and in particular and particularly in particular coming into it is very rare, particularly coming to southern europe. but i mean, look, this whole of unorthodox whole business of unorthodox immigration, which is what we're talking about, is actually a bit of sideshow because , as you of a sideshow because, as you know, discussed it week . know, we discussed it last week. in fact, numbers coming in fact, the numbers coming legally this country far

legally into this country far and away dwarf those who are coming across the channel. um, you know, 1.2 million people came legally into this country last year. i mean, the number of people who came across the channel by boat was a small but but think that that argument but i think that that argument then an argument do then is an argument to do nothing, then is an argument to do not because it's not really about >> because it's not really about that. we have control over the numbers who here legally . numbers who come here legally. so that is definitely on the government's hands. that's their mistake . they've messed that up. mistake. they've messed that up. they that. that's they can fix that. that's something but the something they can fix. but the illegal situation is one that can suddenly become overwhelming. saw with overwhelming. as we saw with lampedusa. well you can see that, right? >> it's certainly the case that far more people are coming into places and greece, places like italy and greece, which to the which are closer to the destabilised , are destabilised countries, are closer to africa, for example . closer to africa, for example. then come to the uk, we get a, we a significant number we get a significant number here, small here, but it's a small proportion who proportion of those who come into southern europe and the reality is that that situation probably will get worse as we go forward . we have got this forward. we have got this pressure cooker going and pressure cooker going on and at the moment government the moment the government is

making this a big but it making this a big issue, but it can't actually stop the boats and actually start and it can't actually start the planes we got planes. and that's what we got to moment . yeah, we've to at the moment. yeah, we've got out. mean, got to sort that out. i mean, that's rishi that's the big test for rishi sunak. he going to sunak. he said he's going to stop the boats . um, he stop the boats. um, and he was absolutely unambitious about that. and now got a very that. and he's now got a very short period, in my view, in the next which he's got next few weeks in which he's got to put legislation through, which succeed in which is going to succeed in doing that. and he's also got to be sure that that legislation will succeed doing it, will succeed in doing it, because , as you know, there are because, as you know, there are people saying the people who are saying the legislation is proposing isn't tough enough. other things need tough enough. other things need to addition , which to be done. in addition, which he's saying, no, he's not doing. he's saying, no, no legislation will be no, no, this legislation will be enough to solve the problem as long as we can get it through where will held up will be where it will be held up will be in the of where in the house of lords, where i sit and we'll have to see how that battle goes. because if the house of lords, um, persist in rejecting proposals from the house of commons, that does create a bit of a constitutional crisis . it does create a bit of a constitutional crisis. it does indeed. can i just refer briefly to a poll which paper ,

which appeared in today's paper, which appeared in today's paper, which and again, i'm not doing a particular view on this, but just to what's been said just to reflect what's been said in the poll 2000 people, in the poll of 2000 people, more than voted than half of those who voted leave now think brexit has been bad for the uk's ability to control immigration. that's what the polls suggest. and in fact, brexit was only supported by 22% in that poll. so poll respective. >> so is the poll ? >> so where is the poll? >> so where is the poll? >> this is in the observer today andifs >> this is in the observer today and it's carried out by opinium . and it's carried out by opinium. um, but the is this if um, but the point is this if that's the general perception, um, but the point is this if that's thit'szneral perception, um, but the point is this if that's thit's right. perception, um, but the point is this if that's thit's right. pewrong, n, whether it's right or wrong, it doesn't that's doesn't really matter if that's a that the a general perception that the government a major, government has got a major, major problem because people think not working think it's not working well. >> point out >> i'm just going to point out that schengen, the that actually schengen, the schengen literally schengen zone, is literally unvetted immigration. so once you europe, you can you get into europe, you can move around, however you like and they've got a bigger problem than us. you and i suspect than us. you have. and i suspect it's they are part of than us. you have. and i suspect it's eu. they are part of than us. you have. and i suspect it's eu. so they are part of than us. you have. and i suspect it's eu. so ithey are part of than us. you have. and i suspect it's eu. so i would re part of than us. you have. and i suspect it's eu. so i would question that the eu. so i would question that poll. weren't part of poll. well, we weren't part of schengen poll. well, we weren't part of schwhen we were eu. we >> when we were in the eu. we were schengen, we were outside schengen, but we were outside schengen, but wof were within a free movement of people people come >> right. people can come to this you're part of the eu this if you're part of the eu and moving there and you're moving around there freely, you can come quite freely. well, we still had immigration didn't. >> not

p.- >> but not for eu citizens. that's difference. now that's a difference. now >> saying is the >> but what i'm saying is the point i'm making is. >> but what i'm saying is the point i'm making is . that the point i'm making is. that the schengen zone is not actually a great thing. so we don't. the fact that we're outside all of that and outside of the eu legislation and policies is a better thing for us. well, we they've got a bigger problem . they've got a bigger problem. yeah, they've a bigger problem. >> must >> they must because of their problem, of the problem, both because of the freedom within freedom of movement within the eu , but because the eu, but also because of the proximity the eu to countries proximity of the eu to countries where coming from . where people are coming from. well, one the problems is well, one of the problems is with the poll, course, is with the poll, of course, is that government never that the government never actually use of any brexit actually makes use of any brexit freedoms except pints of champagne, which , um, and they champagne, which, um, and they never tell people what the benefits of brexit are . so here benefits of brexit are. so here you have a government which is headed by somebody who campaigned leave , and he campaigned for leave, and he seems to explain to seems embarrassed to explain to people why it was such a good thing that he campaigned for leave. um, i'm not embarrassed to people so maybe to tell people that. so maybe i should be running the government. you >> do a job. oh, >> you'd do a betterjob. oh, no. no, would do tony. >> no, no, i'd be a complete flop. and never to

flop. and it's never going to happen. but um, happen. but of course. but um, you know, somebody, at least i'll stand up and i'll be willing to stand up and explain why they have brexit and why think working . one why i think it is working. one of it is working, of of the reasons it is working, of course, is we're having this debate this debate because next year or this yean debate because next year or this year, next year, still next year, no next year, still next yean year, no next year, still next year, there'll be a general election. probably sometime after there'll after tomorrow, there'll be a general, parties general, um, and the parties this time are going to have to explain their immigration policies very clearly and not neither of them or none of the parties be able to say, oh, parties will be able to say, oh, we have no choice about this because in because of europe. they're in complete that's because of europe. they're in conthing. that's because of europe. they're in conthing. they're that's because of europe. they're in conthing. they're wholly1at's the thing. they're wholly accountable to the british people, and they're going to have explain themselves. have to explain themselves. >> i >> well, that's the thing. i mean, surely it's better to be governed rather mean, surely it's better to be gove having rather mean, surely it's better to be gove having governorship ather mean, surely it's better to be gove having governorship sortr mean, surely it's better to be gove having governorship sort of than having governorship sort of put over you. and that's the point irrespective of point of brexit, irrespective of whether we make mistakes or not, we can blame that us and we we can blame that on us and we can of the people. lot we can blame that on us and we ca people of the people. lot we can blame that on us and we ca people talkthe people. lot we can blame that on us and we ca people talk aboutople. lot we can blame that on us and we ca people talk about brexit,)t we can blame that on us and we ca people talk about brexit, but of people talk about brexit, but i the meps , there are i look at the meps, there are not many people of colour there. i didn't even see one in the picture. are picture. they are not representative the of representative of the people of this obviously this country because obviously when were it , they when we were in it, they were still all white people. still mostly all white people.

and i'm not saying that you need black people and all that, but i'm saying that if people are trying that being trying to say that we're being racist a look racist for leaving, take a look at have. at what we have. >> well, don't i've >> well, i don't think i've never said that, for example. >> of >> well, not you, but lots of people will call people who want brexit as as racists. and i wouldn't ever defend the eu as it was, which was full of faults, which i regularly faults, which which i regularly drew attention to when i was an mp minister . mp and the minister. >> what i would say is that there's the that there there's a the idea that there are, are are, of course, there are certain things do, certain things we can now do, which couldn't when we're which we couldn't do when we're in eu. course i accept that. in eu. of course i accept that. but case that but equally the case was that we were influence eu when were able to influence eu when were able to influence eu when we there get eu we were in there and get the eu to british policies to adopt some british policies which we now can't do really, because you've got a 27 others who to agree any changes. >> they've got lots of things to work like that. know that work like that. you know that norman, one of the norman, that's one of the reasons our civil reasons why we left our civil servants very servants were actually very effective british effective at getting british policy through. >> just think this one from my >> i just think this one from my own the approach own area, the approach to railways been railways in the eu has been largely determined by the british and the opening british policy and the opening up of railways to free competition is largely a british achievement . and that was achievement. and that was happening that we is happening without that we is that the best against.

>> that's not great. >> that's not great. >> so down now and against the french against sncf . i mean french and against sncf. i mean that's one example of what that's just one example of what we the did we achieved in the eu. we did achieve things the achieve things in the eu. >> yeah, did very >> yeah, yeah we did and very good we can achieve good for us. but we can achieve more you more outside it. well, if you just after more outside it. well, if you just this after more outside it. well, if you just this is after more outside it. well, if you just this is gb after more outside it. well, if you just this is gb news after more outside it. well, if you just this is gb news on after more outside it. well, if you just this is gb news on tv,r 3:00, this is gb news on tv, onune 3:00, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up. should rishi back dominic rishi sunak bring back dominic cummings? it comes as the former number 10 adviser says that he said secret meetings that we all now know about with the prime minister, up next, as minister, but up next, as restrictions are introduced on xl bullies, i'm asking should all dogs over a certain weight be muzzled

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. >> 25 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in, welcome this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. don't forget you can download the gb news app and check out all the things that we have on the channel but just before the break, we were talking about illegal the uk . illegal migration into the uk. lots been getting in lots of you have been getting in touch with your views. tom says uk border force maritime vessels must immediately be stopped from being used as a taxi service to bnng being used as a taxi service to bring illegal boat people into the english channel. wendy says security of our borders is a top responsibility above all else. return, return on and return the boats to france under armed guard . i trust reform uk to do guard. i trust reform uk to do this. and peter says surely the commons can overrule the lords

regarding illegal migrants as well. they can. actually, there is a ruling that they can, but i think that probably rather not. and says surely our sas and sheila says surely our sas could into europe and could go into europe and sabotage, i.e. pierce those boats on their way to calais? no one gets hurt, but no boats are fit for purpose . you know what i fit for purpose. you know what i suspect? if you pierce the boats, up with boats, they'll come up with something boats, they'll come up with sometcoming. views views coming. gb views gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. but in the news today and happening today , xl bullies must happening today, xl bullies must be kept on a lead and muzzled when out in public as new laws are introduced which also prohibited the selling, breeding and abandoning of the breed. now this comes ahead of an outright ban which will come into force at the start of february. so on february the 1st owners have one month now from now to apply for an exemption certificate to keep their dog. i mean, look, he looks cute, but when they get big, god help us. but is banning the breed enough or should all dogs weight be dogs over a certain weight be muzzled? i'm posing that question you going head question to you and going head to panel today. to head with my panel today. former minister

former liberal democrat minister norman baker and also conservative peer lord daniel moylan . uh, daniel, what do you moylan. uh, daniel, what do you think about these? >> there are two i remember in my local government career, i once responsibility when i once had responsibility when i was very young for sort of dog policy so on. and policy in parks and so on. and a very wise head of department, council officer had been there many years , warned me to keep many years, warned me to keep well subject . i well away from the subject. i said, well, why, i was called mr cook. said, mr cook? and cook. i said, why, mr cook? and he the world is he said, because the world is divided into two sorts of people. there there divided into two sorts of peo people there there divided into two sorts of peo people who there there divided into two sorts of peo people who are re there divided into two sorts of peo people who are absolutelye are people who are absolutely mad people mad on dogs and there are people who are absolutely mad against them. and they're both equally mad, and they'll tell you to bits , keep away from it. so bits, keep away from it. so since then, i've kept away from getting dog policy . getting involved in dog policy. my getting involved in dog policy. my view, generally, i'm not a dog person . i'm not sympathetic dog person. i'm not sympathetic to myself. i wouldn't mind to dogs myself. i wouldn't mind if they were banned in places like london. um, but it wouldn't worry me. but i'm not actually getting into the policy myself. i think, you know , you've got i think, you know, you've got a lot of people out there, out in your be really your viewers would be really upset with whatever we say i

leave there has a bit advice, leave there has a bit of advice, do no, can't sit on the >> no, no, you can't sit on the fence this. i'm to fence on this. i'm going to throw norman dogs on that. >> well, neither of are >> well, neither of us are elected moment. you elected at the moment. so you were house of lords. were in the house of lords. >> on, on. right, >> come on, come on. all right, norman, you . norman, over to you. >> well, look, mean, i'm not >> well, look, i mean, i'm not an expert in dogs either, but i do the dangerous do remember the dangerous dogs act, which came in in 1992. i think was . and it was think it was. and it was perceived afterwards as being a bit of a disaster because as it specifies, certain breeds , not specifies, certain breeds, not other breeds, and people thought it work very well. and it didn't work very well. and what i would say is the what i would say is that the general policy must be if there is a dog which which presents a or a breed of dog which presents a risk to the public, then it should not be allowed on the streets or anywhere in the anybody else. i mean, that's streets or anywhere in the anylcommon. i mean, that's streets or anywhere in the anylcommon. i mea now,it's streets or anywhere in the anylcommon. i mea now, whether just common sense. now, whether it should be done by weight as your introduction suggests, or some know . some other means, i don't know. but there are dangerous dogs out there which but there are dangerous dogs out there a which but there are dangerous dogs out there a threat which but there are dangerous dogs out there a threat to which but there are dangerous dogs out there a threat to the ch but there are dangerous dogs out there a threat to the public. present a threat to the public. >> but if you do it by weight, it not it means that you're not actually identifying one specific right. specific breed. that's right. and what you're doing saying and what you're doing is saying that this beast or that the power of this beast or this put down the this animal is put down the saint bernard's. >> well, exactly . that's the

thing. >> no, no, no, no, you're not putting no, it's putting them down. no, no, it's about there. it's about them under there. no, it's about them under there. no, it's about being muzzled through about them being muzzled through the rescue about them the snow to rescue about them being muzzled. it's not putting them know, don't them down. you know, you don't put down. but for dogs put the dog down. but for dogs over certain weight, i would over a certain weight, i would ban certain breeds xl ban certain breeds like xl bullies, a certain bullies, but dogs over a certain weight, view , should all weight, in my view, should all be muzzled. >> what's interesting sociologically about this is it's not so much that in public, the danger of the dog as the fact have view which fact that we have the view which most not be true, most may or may not be true, that people out there that there are people out there who breed the dogs who actually breed the dogs and train to be vicious. train the dogs to be vicious. well, are , and that those well, there are, and that those in a sense, it's those people were trying to get at by taking their dogs away from them. um, whereas it's possible, i suppose, that some of these dogs could be trained to be nice and cuddly. i don't know, but there are but there are, you know, some that are they're actually training them to be vicious . training them to be vicious. yes. um, i wouldn't fancy cuddly . of things we saw on . one of those things we saw on the a moment ago. well the screen a moment ago. well listen, of attacks listen, some of the attacks and i listen, some of the attacks and l puppy- listen, some of the attacks and i i puppy. listen, some of the attacks and i i did)uppy. research on

>> i did a bit of research on the tax got a monologue the tax and i've got a monologue coming probably coming up later. you're probably lynch but i've got a lynch me for it, but i've got a monologue later monologue coming up later about these the these dogs and in some of the attacks, where the owner attacks, it was where the owner may fit or was some may have had a fit or was some sort of attack , and the dog kind sort of attack, and the dog kind of went crazy , or the dog was of went crazy, or the dog was suffering heatstroke or something like that, where the dog then went on attack. so dog then went on the attack. so it's not so it's not necessarily people not dog's people go, it's not the dog's fault and everything. the fault and everything. but the point have an animal point is, if you have an animal like so volatile in like that that is so volatile in different situations, is that kind of animal something we should be having? i agree with norman. >> principle norman >> the principle that norman enunciated should not be dangerous dogs should not be allowed on the streets . um, allowed out on the streets. um, or most people's or indeed in most people's homes. quite frankly , um, homes. quite frankly, um, because they could go for children or whatever. um, the difficulty is defining it. norman refers to an act which tried to do it by defining it by breed. what you're trying to define it by weight and the why weight matters. well, because small can be quite vicious. small dogs can be quite vicious. >> yeah, no, they're >> yeah, no, but they're unlikely . but small dog unlikely. but a small dog attacking you is probably unlikely you. whereas unlikely to kill you. whereas some of these xl bullies in many

from it. well, no, it depends on whether they bite you. that's true. then i go true. but then i would go by weight the strength weight because it's the strength of dogs that is the real problem. >> yeah, but there are large problem. >> y> y> �*wayich aren't regardede problem. >> �*way as aren't regardede problem. >> �*way as dangerous. rdede problem. >> �*way as dangerous. iiede , any way as dangerous. i mean, daniel mentioned saint daniel mentioned the saint bernard's dog with the cognac barrel. there's also the dog that can give an advert for dulux that used to be used in dulux that used to be used in dulux ads. but these huge dogs, which are cuddly and which are which are cuddly and lovely actually. >> well, but but if >> well, yeah, but but but if one those heavy ones decides one of those heavy ones decides to when dogs go bad, if to be bad when dogs go bad, if that one decides to be bad, it's heavy and the weight of it and the strength of it and the power of will overpower even of it will overpower even adults. bullies of it will overpower even adult killed bullies of it will overpower even adult killed very bullies of it will overpower even adult killed very strong|llies of it will overpower even adult killed very strong fitas of it will overpower even adult killed very strong fit 50 have killed very strong fit 50 year men. year old men. >> well, they i'm sure >> well, they have, i'm sure they we deal with they have. and we deal with those. and i think the government's got it broadly right matter government's got it broadly right on matter government's got it broadly right on this, matter government's got it broadly right on this, on matter government's got it broadly right on this, on this matter government's got it broadly right on this, on this issue. tter government's got it broadly righwe on this, on this issue. tter government's got it broadly righwe on this start:his issue. tter government's got it broadly righ we on this start banning . tter but we cannot start banning dogs, threat dogs, which are no threat whatsoever because you whatsoever just because you happen to be. >> i'm talking about >> but i'm talking about muzzling so they muzzling them by weight, so they have in public have to be muzzled in public based have to be muzzled in public basbut have to be muzzled in public bas but there are are have to be muzzled in public basbut there are are no >> but there are breeds are no threat to anybody. but it'd threat to anybody. no, but it'd be muzzle them. be wrong to muzzle muzzle them. >> you say. >> well, that's what you say. but you earlier. but then, as you said earlier.

so of discounted but then, as you said earlier. so earlier of discounted but then, as you said earlier. so earlier point discounted but then, as you said earlier. so earlier point was ounted but then, as you said earlier. so earlier point was ounteany your earlier point was that any dog can be dangerous. well, when my point exactly that exact my point is exactly that exact your point that any dog can be dangerous. so if you take on into account their and into account their weight and their power , then their strength and power, then their strength and power, then the propensity their the propensity of their likelihood for them to actually do real harm will be dependent on that. i'm not aware of anyone anybody's chatbox of bearing a dog. >> well, i'm sure i can find someone. i think an alternative to muzzle owner . if you to muzzle the owner. if you muzzled, said you're muzzled, if you said you're going to have that dog, you're going to have to go everywhere in in public with your in a muzzle in public with your face wrapped up, even in restaurants, you're going to have i think it have to keep it on. i think it would so put off the that would so put off the owners that they'd would so put off the owners that the well, that's part it, >> well, that's part of it, isn't is to deter isn't it? part of it is to deter people having dogs that are people from having dogs that are so and so strong and so so powerful and so strong and so deterred the dog. deterred by having the dog. should we get rid of cats instead? >> but are small. instead? >> if but are small. instead? >> if you've are small. instead? >> if you've got are small. instead? >> if you've got listen,all. instead? >> if you've got listen, if.. instead? >> if you've got listen, if the cat was the size of a puma, let's let's about cats. let's let's talk about cats. a lion cat. you you've lion is a cat. you know you've got size. you want. got a cat that size. you want. you want it in your house. you don't want it in your house. i'm not aware everyone's got lions, maybe you have. but lions, but maybe you have. but that's i i'm just

that's a cat. i mean, i'm just saying that, know, something saying that, you know, something of species. it's of that kind of species. it's dependent. in my view. it's dependent. in my view. it's dependent weight. so what are dependent on weight. so what are your moylan? your views, lord moylan? yes or no? depending no? muzzled. because depending on on a certain weight. >> no, don't think that's >> no, i don't think that's going work. not going to work. no, not by weight. no, no, by weight. no no, no, but by dangen weight. no no, no, but by danger. danger. danger. by danger. >> you don't the danger. >> you don't know the danger. all my is >> you don't know the danger. alllovely my is >> you don't know the danger. alllovely . my is >> you don't know the danger. alllovely . he's my is >> you don't know the danger. alllovely . he's nevermy is >> you don't know the danger. alllovely . he's never done is so lovely. he's never done that before. he's taken before. after he's taken somebody out. well, listen, stay tuned. news on tv , tuned. this is gb news on tv, onune tuned. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up, makers of engush nana akua coming up, makers of english sparkling wine. prepare to raise glass to the to raise a glass to the scrapping of eu red tape set to boost the industry. and i'm asking , what restrictions would boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap/hat restrictions would boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap int restrictions would boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap in the strictions would boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap in the newions would boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap in the new year? ould boost the industry. and i'm aski scrap in the new year? buti you scrap in the new year? but before that , let's get your before that, let's get your latest news with tatiana . nana. latest news with tatiana. nana. >> thank you very much and good afternoon . this is the latest afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his year message , in his new year message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts reduction in tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance . he described national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous year which

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just before the break, we were discussing bullies ahead of discussing xl bullies ahead of their outright ban. let's see what you've been saying . maliki what you've been saying. maliki says i have had new found land dogsin says i have had new found land dogs in the past. one of them was 13 stone. they are known as guardians of children . really, i guardians of children. really, i know i hear people say that, but some of them, you know, come on, be honest . c.j. says leave the be honest. c.j. says leave the dogs alone. the thousands of migrants crossing the channel are a risk to public are more of a risk to the public than may . than any dog. well, that. may. i don't know, though. i mean, look, all i'm talking about is i knew i should never have stepped on this. i've got a monologue coming up. you're going to hate me, warn me. daniel me, c.j. he did warn me. daniel warned finally, warned me. and finally, alan says universal rule says there is no universal rule as to what dog attack . as to what dog will attack. exactly. that was my point . exactly. that was my point. which is why i was saying that i would look at it in terms of weight and how power they would look at it in terms of weigh have how power they would look at it in terms of weigh have .|ow power they would look at it in terms of weigh have . but power they would look at it in terms of weigh have . but this power they would look at it in terms of weigh have . but this isower they would look at it in terms of weigh have . but this is i'm r they could have. but this is i'm scared now. i've got a monologue coming up at 4:00. just stay tuned and i think i'm going to be in trouble. but, uh, next up, could be the could dominic cummings be the answer sunaks upcoming

answer to rishi sunaks upcoming election woes? really election woes? seems really desperate . i mean, first it was desperate. i mean, first it was david cameron, now dominic cummings, johnson's former cummings, boris johnson's former chief adviser, says that he met with the prime minister not once but in the past year but twice in the past year to discuss a political strategy and how to defeat labour. now dominic says that he was to prepared help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were prime criticised. that reportedly includes nuclear weapons infrastructure, future pandemics and artificial intelligence . listen, rishi, i'm intelligence. listen, rishi, i'm not being funny, but did you see what he did to boris ? he. i what he did to boris? he. i think he had a jigsaw for him. uh, well , listen, uh, think he had a jigsaw for him. uh, well, listen, uh, going head to head in a clash of mines. uh, lord daniel moylan and also , uh, lord daniel moylan and also, uh, norman baker. so should rishi sunak bring back dominic cummings ? well, i'm going to cummings? well, i'm going to pose that question to you, daniel. well, the thing to daniel. well, the first thing to note is that he hasn't brought back dominic cummings, which shows some good judgement in my view . view. >> e wonder why he >> um, although i wonder why he bothered meeting twice. bothered meeting him twice. apparently um, in confidential circumstances . um, apparently um, in confidential circumstances. um, in his

constituency . i think circumstances. um, in his constituency. i think cummings would have come down from holy island, where he lives, as a sort of holy island. i believe he holy island or thereabouts. >> have ever been a hermit? >> have you ever been a hermit? >> have you ever been a hermit? >> i have been holy island, yes. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> um, believe >> um, i believe he lives there. um um. or from barnard castle, perhaps. and he will have come down from. from there to yorkshire, where rishi, of course, has his constituency and his house, um , i think that was his house, um, i think that was a mistake . i his house, um, i think that was a mistake. i think his house, um, i think that was a mistake . i think there are two a mistake. i think there are two things we know about dominic cummings which make him unfit to be working in government. the first is he's obsessed by a small number of topics and there's no real coherence between them and you yourself. read out pandemic preparation, artificial intelligence means some of the things he's obsessed by are of interest to the public, and some of them are really nerdish wacky things which no doubt government should be looking at. but you wouldn't want the top person advising the prime minister obsessed about those topics, when what they should be focussed on is what the voters actually want, and why elected the

why they were elected in the first the second thing first place. the second thing is, from his own words, is, we know from his own words, his own account, is, we know from his own words, his own account , that within his own account, that within days of the general election in 2019, which boris won with a with a huge mandate that people hadnt with a huge mandate that people hadn't expected in a very large majority , he he was plotting majority, he he was plotting to overturn turn that democratic result and get rid of boris. and we know that because he's told us that. so he has no regard for democracy . i us that. so he has no regard for democracy. i don't us that. so he has no regard for democracy . i don't he sort of democracy. i don't he sort of thinks in a way he's the prime minister. he was the prime minister. he was the prime minister he minister under boris. he was never prime minister he never the prime minister he never the prime minister he never democratic mandate . never had a democratic mandate. so i think be very so i think he could be very careful about somebody who's a bit b doesn't seem to bit wacky and b doesn't seem to have democracy , have much regard for democracy, because want because what we want is democratic government here that listens to the voters. norman well, following on from our last item , here's one attack dog that item, here's one attack dog that should think, um, should be muzzled, i think, um, permanently . i should be muzzled, i think, um, permanently. i mean, should be muzzled, i think, um, permanently . i mean, look, should be muzzled, i think, um, permanently. i mean, look, i mean, the guy's. why why is the prime minister talking to him? i mean, be desperate. mean, he can't be desperate. >> he's desperate. he maybe david can't trusted. >> cummings p—m >> dominic cummings can't be trusted. i mean, he's he's stitched boris and stitched up boris good and proper, he ? proper, didn't he? >> well he did rishi. so there,

there. in with there. he's in bed with the right character. there. he's in bed with the rigihe'saracter. there. he's in bed with the rigihe's got er. there. he's in bed with the rigihe's got no loyalty to >> he's got no loyalty to anybody apart from to himself. um, he's got this lot, as daniel said. actually, there's long list demands . list of idiosyncratic demands. which he wants to see if the prime minister wants a meeting in secret somebody . you in secret with somebody. you don't want person going don't want that person going blabbing to the press say blabbing to the press to say they've meeting blabbing to the press to say they'the meeting blabbing to the press to say they'the prime meeting blabbing to the press to say they'the prime minister. ating blabbing to the press to say they'the prime minister. iing blabbing to the press to say they'the prime minister. i mean, with the prime minister. i mean, you can't operate that basis you can't operate on that basis in really can't. you can't operate on that basis in i really can't. you can't operate on that basis in i rishi really can't. you can't operate on that basis in i rishi rea|hasan't. you can't operate on that basis in i rishi rea|has been so i mean, rishi sunak has been very unwise to even the guy very unwise to even meet the guy to honest you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do honest you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you honest you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you thinkonest you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you think irest you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you think i think you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you think i think i you. very unwise to even meet the guy to do you think i think i said]. >> do you think i think i said that i don't think he should have met him. >> um, i don't know what you'd get of meeting him. yeah. >> he doesn't much, does >> he doesn't have much, does he? problem is, he's he? and the problem is, he's totally untrustworthy. because of what happened, what he did to boris. then . but then you boris. and then. but then if you look sunak also look at it, rishi sunak also stabbed boris back. i stabbed boris in the back. i mean, was something mean, this was something he'd clearly planned because he had his ready for rishi suntan his get ready for rishi suntan cream. ready and or sun protection lotion ready and everything . so this is somebody everything. so this is somebody who's been in planning . who's been in planning. >> i don't know anything about suntan . suntan. >> e“- e“— >> well, he had this. >> well, he had this. >> don't , don't, don't

>> he said, don't, don't, don't go into the red . go into the red. >> for rishi. and he >> get ready for rishi. and he had ready. and it >> get ready for rishi. and he had like ready. and it >> get ready for rishi. and he had like in ready. and it >> get ready for rishi. and he had like in batches ready. and it >> get ready for rishi. and he had like in batches withy. and it was like in batches with branding and everything. so this is know i've, i've put is i know i've, i've put a product to market and that takes time . you just don't tomorrow time. you just don't tomorrow it's doesn't work it's done and it doesn't work like that. >> it takes months prepare >> it takes months to prepare to rishi sunak. not really rishi sunak. and i'm not really saying that to fair. rishi saying that to be fair. rishi sunak, don't it's sunak, i don't think it's a similar because similar situation because i think dominic cummings was always out for dominic cummings. first nobody else . first and foremost. nobody else. that's where he was egotistical beyond belief. i think rishi sunak came to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that boris wasn't suitable prime wasn't suitable to be prime minister and then, along with many other ministers, let's over 50 ministers who resigned, i think, and boris as government. >> yeah, i think a lot of them regret it though now lot regret it though now a lot of them they may regret it though now a lot of theibut they may regret it though now a lot of theibut wasn't they may regret it though now a lot of theibut wasn't alone ay may regret it though now a lot of theibut wasn't alone and ay do, but he wasn't alone and there general view there was a general view that bofis there was a general view that boris not suitable boris johnson was not suitable as prime which rishi boris johnson was not suitable as pa�*ne which rishi boris johnson was not suitable as pa one which rishi boris johnson was not suitable as pa one of which rishi boris johnson was not suitable as pa one of the which rishi boris johnson was not suitable as pa one of the people rishi was a one of the people who thought say that. >> yeah, but you say that. >> yeah, but you say that. >> no, i but my point is >> no, no, i but my point is this, that rishi had planned this. so in you don't just this. okay so in you don't just come out with a product and it arrives on the shelf the next day. so his sunblock was ready

within ten days of boris johnson going, you know, of all of this happening. so he's obviously been planning and he had videos and everything. i mean , look, i and everything. i mean, look, i don't know, but i suspect that when, when the government started in 2019 and the cabinet, including loyal started in 2019 and the cabinet, in> well, i don't think dominic would have changed that, do you? he's only interested he's obviously only interested in of in himself. he's like one of those scientists those sort of mad scientists that comes up with and that comes up with a formula and a everyone it, a plan and everyone must do it, or else. a plan and everyone must do it, or (well, i don't think >> well, yeah, i don't think it's he's only it's fair to say he's only loyal to he's to himself. i think he's probably fairly un egotistical in that regard, but in a way it's more dangerous because it's the he's he's loyal to and he's obsessed with his ideas and his plan rather than with himself. he wants to get that plan through , and that's fine. through, and that's fine. everyone's entitled to have a plan for running the country, and everyone's entitled to put it to the voters . um, but and it to the voters. um, but and see if they get elected, that's

absolutely that's how absolutely fine. that's how democracy but to take democracy works. but to take advantage of somebody else's mandate in order to get your own plan or to reckon it's a plan through or to reckon it's a sort of bargain can sort of bargain that you can conduct the with the person conduct with the with the person who has been, you know, given a popular mandate, like boris, by the of this country, that the people of this country, that you can negotiate with them, and it seems a very strange, it seems to me a very strange, obsessive . it's just egotistical obsessive. it's just egotistical to think it's his mandate , which obsessive. it's just egotistical to what it's his mandate , which obsessive. it's just egotistical to what hes his mandate , which obsessive. it's just egotistical to what he thought,|date , which obsessive. it's just egotistical to what he thought, which which obsessive. it's just egotistical to what he thought, which is1ich is what he thought, which is what yes, he what he thought. yes, because he thought elected . thought he got boris elected. that's what he thought. i suppose. >> yeah. so in his head >> yes. so, yeah. so in his head , he was the mastermind , he was the, the mastermind behind all of it. and he had his he was very strategic . i mean, he was very strategic. i mean, i've not met the man , but in my i've not met the man, but in my view he comes across as somebody who this is just my view from the way he's appeared to approach this, somebody who's quite neurodiverse he's quite neurodiverse and that he's and he said he's so focussed and so on. his like he apparently had a map with bombs going off and everything as he as the plans came to fruition. that's not the sort of person you want working alongside. well, i called him. that's true.

>> i called him an attack dog earlier on. he's also, in some ways which stroke him ways a cat, which you stroke him sometimes your pair, other times you'll badly you'll scratch you very badly and well away from him, and you keep well away from him, i think. >> sounds like xl bully, but >> sounds like an xl bully, but none of it. >> plans ever did >> none of his plans ever did come to fruition. i one come to fruition. i mean, one of the things want come to fruition. i mean, one of th i mean, that happened one of the was proposed is the plan b that was proposed is well, for government. >> plans for what wanted >> his plans for what he wanted to very to do. um, it's very interesting. was interesting. you know, he was there from the middle of 2019 through to the middle of what was it, early 2021? early 2020, 2021 to the autumn? i think he went in the autumn. yeah, yeah. um and he had huge power in whitehall and downing street. i know you had a lot of resistance to face because the civil service is difficult to service is very difficult to manage. he had huge manage. um, but he had huge power and it's very difficult to see. well, what i'm what i was in government he actually in government plans. he actually delivered. he just wasn't. he wasn't effective. no, wasn't very effective. no, i mean , when government, mean, when i was in government, he the spad, the adviser to he was the spad, the adviser to michael gove , special adviser. michael gove, special adviser. and he was he was a complete nightmare. was nightmare. then he was he was out just with the

out of line, not just with the lib dems actually, but most of out of line, not just with the lib conservatives', but most of out of line, not just with the lib conservatives', bthat ost of out of line, not just with the lib conservatives', bthat point, the conservatives at that point, uh, regarded him as uh, the people regarded him as a nuisance. generally across across parties. well, across both parties. well, i think but know, think that's but you know, he's a um, labour had, um, a bit like, um, labour had, um, lord birt, john birt, do you remember him? he was full of blue thinking back in blue skies, thinking back in 2003. of those things ever blue skies, thinking back in 2003. to of those things ever blue skies, thinking back in 2003. to fruitioniose things ever blue skies, thinking back in 2003. to fruition either. ngs ever came to fruition either. >> listen, i doubt >> well, listen, i doubt that if chris any sense , which i chris has got any sense, which i think he does have some sense, if you've got any sense, stay away as we away from that, man. but as we move on, the country gets move on, as the country gets ready welcome the new year ready to welcome the new year tonight glass bubbly tonight with a glass of bubbly or two makers of english sparkling prepare raise sparkling wine, prepare to raise a to the scrapping of eu a glass to the scrapping of eu red set to boost the red tape set to boost the industry. previous regulations said that the wine makers had to use mushroom shaped stoppers and foil covers on bottlenecks , and foil covers on bottlenecks, and that the government says that the changes will give producers the changes will give producers the freedom to opt for simpler packaging to waste and packaging to reduce waste and costs. so as we enter a brand new year, which brexit red tape would you like see cut ? so would you like to see cut? so joining me now my head to head is danny moylan. also norman baker norman to start baker. norman i'm going to start with okay.

with you okay. >> well i mean look some regulation worth having. so regulation is worth having. so we to rid we don't want to get rid of regulation actually works. we don't want to get rid of renghati actually works. we don't want to get rid of renghat would actually works. we don't want to get rid of renghat would you ually works. we don't want to get rid of renghat would you uallyto orks. but what would you like to see go . but in terms but what would you like to see go. but in terms what but what would you like to see go . but in terms what i but what would you like to see go. but in terms what i want go. but in terms of what i want to i let preface it by to see go i let me preface it by saying never supported saying that i never supported the in very small the eu interfering in very small matters have matters which should have been done level. so one done at national level. so one example used to find example i used to find irritating at a minister, a department of transport minister, requirement minister, was this requirement for daylight time running on cars where lights are on during daylight on your headlights or your side lights on your car, which used the case, which never used to be the case, and that was brought in because sweden and if sweden wanted to have it. and if sweden wanted to have it. and if sweden wants it, sweden can have it. a lot of darkness. >> they many hours and fine, >> they do many hours and fine, let it. let them have it. >> impose on the rest of >> but why impose on the rest of the eu? >> is rule ? i didn't know, >> is that rule? i didn't know, it's rule. >> is that rule? i didn't know, it's so rule. >> is that rule? i didn't know, it's so thatule. >> is that rule? i didn't know, it's so that was i tried to get >> so that was i tried to get rid actually, i was rid of it actually, when i was a minister, i couldn't get rid minister, and i couldn't get rid of example of it. so that's one example of a it's a little eu rule. and it's mostly the little things that are there lots of them. there >> there are lots of them. there are them. mean, that's are lots of them. i mean, that's one were one little one, but there were lots there? lots of them, weren't there? what what you like? >> well, i think my top one, funnily enough, would be copyright french are copyright the french are massively on performance

massively keen on performance rights and things like that because they invented them back in century. i didn't in the 18th century. i didn't exist you could exist until then. you could perform anybody's music and you didn't have to pay. pay them . didn't have to pay. pay them. um, of introduced um, and they sort of introduced it in the 18th, early it in late in the 18th, early 19th but now have 19th century. but you now have this ridiculous situation where it's been extended and extended. so that there are people, you know, so it goes on for 70 years after death somebody. so after the death of somebody. so you have who paints after the death of somebody. so y(picture1ave who paints after the death of somebody. so y(picture1ave increaseaints a picture which might increase in value and be hugely valuable. 70 years on, their descendants who may never have met them or known them are still getting a fee. every time that picture is sold. oh wow. and the same is true for recorded music and things like that. i mean , of things like that. i mean, of course i'm happy to accept some level of protection, but extending it out 70 years, we should be cutting that back. there the there are other things the french were keen on that particularly got particularly the french that got through hobble our art through that hobble our art markets for example. i mean, we have, you know, we are the centre of we in switzerland , but centre of we in switzerland, but we're both outside the european union , the centre art

union, are the centre of art auctions in europe. and . and of auctions in europe. and. and of course, a lot of business is now moved to new york because of the extra european extra taxes that the european union that affect union have imposed that affect the london market. why have we got rid of those? i just don't know. collect any . know. we don't collect any. money from them because the business has gone elsewhere. >> i don't know why they haven't sorts like that i >>i -- >> i just think the civil service interested service isn't interested in identifying . identifying things like that. and there's this terror of divergence . yes. divergence. yes. >> yeah, it does seem. >> yeah, it does seem. >> let's diverge. >> let's diverge. >> well, they want to . the >> well, they don't want to. the civil servants or the civil service seems to be largely left wing . and it seems that they wing. and it seems that they well, think that fair. well, i think that is fair. i mean, it mark serwotka, head mean, is it mark serwotka, head of the police union, who look after civil servants, even he was one of those that was actually saying that he wants all strikes to try and all the strikes to try and hinder and change the government. think . a lot of government. so i think. a lot of the civil service is very left wing. well, i've been very difficult. >> got defend the civil >> i've got to defend the civil service spent five years service having spent five years

with them as government minister, at with them as government mireither at with them as government mireither wing at with them as government mireither wing or at with them as government mireither wing or right at all either left wing or right wing, didn't know they wing, and i didn't know how they voted, wing, and i didn't know how they votervoted. i thought were they voted. i thought they were pretty professional people, actually. >> w- w— >> you think? well, listen. well, we're discussing loads of that you're that and more if you're just join board. this that and more if you're just joigb board. this that and more if you're just joigb news board. this that and more if you're just joigb news on board. this that and more if you're just joigb news on online rd. this that and more if you're just joigb news on online and his that and more if you're just joigb news on online and on is gb news on tv, online and on digital way digital radio. on the way matthew labour matthew laza former labour advisor and political commentator lewis perry will be joining give joining me live and i'll give you my take on xl bullies. help me first, let's get some weather, brighter outlook with weather, a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on gb news is . gb news is. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast i'm craig snell. well looking ahead to the first day of 2024 and for most of us we will see some further rain. but there will be some sunshine on offer. back to the here and now. we still have this area of low pressure dominating the uk. note the packed isobars the tightly packed isobars across the south, indicating some blustery conditions across the south, indicating sorwe blustery conditions across the south, indicating sorwe see blustery conditions across the south, indicating sorwe see outhtery conditions across the south, indicating sorwe see out 2023. conditions across the south, indicating sorwe see out 2023. andiitions across the south, indicating sorwe see out 2023. and for ns across the south, indicating sorwe see out 2023. and for most as we see out 2023. and for most of us as we approach midnight, really it's going to be of really it's going to be a mix of clear spells scattered clear spells and scattered showers. may turn showers. it may briefly turn

dner showers. it may briefly turn drier for a time for the bells across parts scotland, and across parts of scotland, and then towards of the then towards the end of the night, skies, it night, in any clear skies, it will turn fairly chilly, especially in the countryside across north, where we will across the north, where we will see a touch of frost . so if you see a touch of frost. so if you are early enough on new are up early enough on new year's day, there will be some sunshine around, especially across northern ireland across parts of northern ireland into and into the into wales and into the midlands. but we see this next area of cloud and rain coming in from the southwest, and that will spread its way slowly northwards through the northwards as we go through the course day. so the best course of the day. so the best of come of the sunshine come the afternoon across the afternoon will be across the north, here still watch out north, but here still watch out for temperatures for a few showers. temperatures in the north range in between 5 to 7 degrees, potentially up to 10 to 11 across the south, and then on to tuesday. a fairly wet day for a lot of us, especially across the south. some wet and windy weather potentially developing here, so we are keeping a close eye on things and then really heading into wednesday and thursday, the weather unsettled many weather stays unsettled for many parts the country. parts of the country. temperatures just gradually cooling down.

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talking . you just joined us, and you're listening live on radio. >> what? we are listening to are the fireworks displays and the order that's coming from those. the one we currently have is the one in taiwan, in taipei. and we're looking at all the fireworks that are going on across we hit the

across the world as we hit the new year. 2024 has already arrived for some people around the world, i find it interesting that it didn't happen. appear to be the hour . i they are be on the hour. i mean, they are there hours in a there a couple of hours in a minute something like minute ahead or something like that behind that minute ahead or something like that seems behind that minute ahead or something like that seems bit behind that minute ahead or something like that seems bit oddind that minute ahead or something like that seems bit odd to thatbut just seems a bit odd to me, but that's rolls and they've that's how it rolls and they've got display . uh, now got a fabulous display. uh, now we're on the chinese or in hong kong. we're on the chinese or in hong kong . we've gone to that display kong. we've gone to that display as well, and it is quite incredible how much money they must spending on these things. >> and joining me in the studio right now, lewis perry and matthew laza , who are going to matthew laza, who are going to be my panel throughout the show. >> but, uh , as you say, it's the >> but, uh, as you say, it's the 3ist. it >> but, uh, as you say, it's the 31st. it is the new year. i'd love to hear your on love to hear your thoughts on what you're planning to do for the how going what you're planning to do for th> hahahahaha. >> hahahahaha. >> but you were very much worth it as a gift . it as a gift. >> well, i think so. exactly. i think i'm but i mean, look, i

mean, matthew, you think that mean, matthew, do you think that these be spending these people should be spending this these this kind of money on these fireworks year ? fireworks every year? >> it's sort a bit of a >> well, it's sort of a bit of a sort of arms race, it? sort of arms race, isn't it? >> the world, >> a fireworks across the world, you but you know, as the countdown. but i mean, help if you i mean, it does help if you have a so obviously a harbour. so obviously hong kong, spectacular kong, um, is pretty spectacular as ones we saw, um, in as the ones we saw, um, in sydney earlier. >> the thames, >> yeah, we've got the thames, which doesn't badly. >> yeah, we've got the thames, whii1 doesn't badly. >> yeah, we've got the thames, whii liveesn't badly. >> yeah, we've got the thames, whii live quite badly. >> yeah, we've got the thames, whii live quite neardly. >> yeah, we've got the thames, whii live quite near the thames, >> i live quite near the thames, so i stand on tiptoes i can so if i stand on tiptoes i can just see from house. why just see them from my house. why don't just get of your don't you just get out of your house the tent? house and go in the tent? well it could cost you. you have to have a wristband, which sells out us out in five minutes, even for us local terrible. no. yeah >> so it's terrible. no. yeah >> so it's terrible. no. yeah >> so it's terrible. no. yeah >> so that's as good as it's going to get. but um, think going to get. but um, i think these are pretty, pretty spectacular. i think we can allow a bit of fun. >> let me see you do enjoy this. do they're wasting do you think they're wasting money? mean, you're cop26 your money? i mean, you're cop26 your cop26, uh, cop26, aren't you? yeah uh, well, yeah. >> i mean, it's interesting looking at the hong kong display because we have our own mayors london communist party display tonight . tonight. >> that's very helpful. oh, yeah . i like quite actually. >> what do you . i'm not part of >> what do you. i'm not part of

the world. so it, uh, it was quite interesting, though, looking at, uh, the contrast how. >> now. >> so if you've just tuned in, uh, we've got the contrast of the two firework displays . uh, the two firework displays. uh, the two firework displays. uh, the one on your as you look at the one on your as you look at the , the on left the screen, the one on your left is actually china and the one on your right, as you look at the screen is actually in taiwan , in screen is actually in taiwan, in taipei. it's , um, i think taipei. and it's, um, i think the one in taiwan seems slightly darker . darker. >> it's well, this is hugely political because china still believes that taiwan is part of china. >> it doesn't recognise it as indeed the world doesn't indeed most of the world doesn't recognise it as an independent state. be making state. so they'll be making a big political statement. >> don't >> well, listen, uh, don't forget we've fireworks all forget we've got fireworks all across the country as well. it is now let's is the 31st. but now let's get your news sophia your latest news with sophia wenzler. >> nana. good afternoon . i'm >> nana. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his new year

message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous year which saw inflation halved and record investment in the nhs . that's despite junior doctors in england planning their longest walkout in nhs history next month . the prime minister next month. the prime minister says his new year's resolution is to keep driving forward inflation is set to fall further cutting the cost of living for everyone. >> and we're not stopping there. we're going further to grow our economy by reducing debt, cutting taxes and rewarding hard work . cutting taxes and rewarding hard work. building cutting taxes and rewarding hard work . building secure supplies work. building secure supplies of energy here at home, backing british business and delivering world class . education world class. education >> meanwhile, the labour leader says the power to shape the future of britain's rests in everyone's hands. sir keir starmer's message offered a preview of his party's election campaign, saying 2024 needs to give britain its future back in

the labour party, we have been building to this for four years. >> we're confident we have a plan that can move our country forward , end the cost of living forward, end the cost of living crisis , take back our streets , crisis, take back our streets, get the nhs back on its feet, cheaper energy bills for your home, more opportunities for your children . your children. >> boris johnson's former chief adviser says rishi sunak tried to strike what he called a secret deal in a bid to win the next election. dominic cummings told the sunday times that he was prepared to help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were prioritised. that reportedly includes overhauling defence capabilities and preparing for future pandemics. number 10 did not deny the report, but says mr cummings was not offered a position . eurostar trains are position. eurostar trains are back in service today after a burst pipe derailed travel plans for thousands of passengers . all for thousands of passengers. all eurostar trains between london

and paris came to a halt yesterday as water flooded as a tunnel beneath the river thames. many passengers were left facing expensive hotel bills, while others desperately searched for alternative travel routes . alternative travel routes. services are running normally today , but congestion is today, but congestion is expected while the backlog is cleared . loudspeaker calls and cleared. loudspeaker calls and tourist groups are to be banned from venice, as the italian city looks to clamp down on rowdy tourists from june, groups larger than 25 people will be blocked from gathering in public areas . the city blocked from gathering in public areas. the city is blocked from gathering in public areas . the city is also cracking areas. the city is also cracking down on the use of noisy speakers amid complaints from locals. they caused confusion and disturbance. it follows the introduction of a £4, 30 entry fee for tourists in september. venice is one of europe's most popular destinations , but popular destinations, but residents have complained that too many visitors are ruining the city's character . the the city's character. the australian journalist john pilger has died at the age of 84. he came to prominence in the

1960s as chief foreign correspondent for the daily mirror in london. the youngest person to receive britain's prestigious journalist of the year award . he was also the year award. he was also the first to win it twice . never far first to win it twice. never far from controversy , his many from controversy, his many acclaimed documentaries and books harshly criticised british foreign policy. he was also an outspoken critic of the bbc s impartiality rule and decreed mainstream media for what he saw as favouring corporate interests over those of ordinary people . over those of ordinary people. and happy new year to hong kong, japan and australia. that's after the clock struck midnight in sydney, just hours ago. the famous harbour bridge in sydney opera house were alight with colours and sparkle with fireworks bursting from landmarks and boats scattered throughout water. earlier,

throughout the water. earlier, the sky tower in auckland , new the sky tower in auckland, new zealand, was illuminated in blazing colour as the country became one of the first to chime in the new year , though it was in the new year, though it was beaten by the pacific nation of kiribati, which entered the new year at 10:00 this morning . and year at 10:00 this morning. and these are live shots coming to us now from hong kong, where they are celebrating the new year. they are celebrating the new year . and we'll bring more to year. and we'll bring more to you as we get them . this is gb you as we get them. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's go back to . nana. go back to. nana. >> good afternoon. welcome on board this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it's fast approaching 11 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua a dog is not just for christmas and it certainly isn't a toy, especially not the xl bully kind

. now, before all you dog lovers turn on me, i absolutely love animals , especially the good animals, especially the good looking ones. the best dog i've ever known was tootsie . rest his ever known was tootsie. rest his soul. he was my auntie janet's dog in newcastle, where i was born, a little yorkshire terrier. i mean, god, he stank . terrier. i mean, god, he stank. but he was the nicest, most lovely dog in the world. and my aunfie lovely dog in the world. and my auntie janet, if you're watching, you were a fabulous mum to tootsie, a responsible dog owner like the majority of people who own them . the people who own them. the problem, though, with the xl bully is that many of the owners breed them for fighting and money training, and the dog's welfare is not at the heart. and god forbid if one of these unknowingly become . a family pet unknowingly become. a family pet and xl bully is not a pet, it's and xl bully is not a pet, it's a weapon . i mean, look at it. it a weapon. i mean, look at it. it imagine that clamping its jaws on you. it's frightening. i mean, that one actually looks really sweet , but it's not. it's really sweet, but it's not. it's not just stephen. small people that you need to worry about. i mean, can we. i'm talking mean, how can we. i'm talking about cutest

about it. they put the cutest looking one up there, but these dogs anyone that gets dogs can kill anyone that gets in their way on bad day. i in their way on a bad day. i mean, do you hear mean, how many times do you hear people he's always been people saying he's always been such a lovely dog after their dog has attacked someone? or that never done anything that he's never done anything like before, excuse like that before, or to excuse a dog who's caused harm with there is no such thing as a bad dog. it's a bad owner. tell that to the parents of jack lewis, a ten year old schoolboy who was killed at his friend's house by an bully bella—rae birch an xl bully bella—rae birch church who was just 17 months when attacked and killed when she was attacked and killed in her home by her family's american bully dog, the dog snatched her out of her mother's arms . 43 year snatched her out of her mother's arms. 43 year old joanne robinson , a mother of two who robinson, a mother of two who was killed by her american bully xl dog after it turned mad in the extreme heat. there was ian price, a 52 year old who was attacked by two suspected xl bully dogs near his home, and 54 year old ian langley, who was out walking his terrier puppy close to his home when he was attacked and killed by an xl bully . and over the past three

bully. and over the past three years, 23 people have been killed by vicious attacks and xl bullies were responsible for at least half . and that figure least half. and that figure doesn't include those who've been maimed but lived to tell the tale. so from today, the 3ist the tale. so from today, the 31st of december, new restrictions on the xl bully dog come into force. i mean, ignore the government website because i went to look on there and i'm pretty this a mistake pretty sure this is a mistake because just says because they just it just says december says december 3rd, but then it says today. so they've missed the one, call today . so one, but they call it today. so basically from now on, xl basically today from now on, xl bullies must be kept on a lead and muzzled when in public. and it also is illegal to breed, sell , advertise, gift exchange, sell, advertise, gift exchange, abandoned or let these dogs stray and owners must have have a month to register them. otherwise they'll be put down and the full ban , of course, and the full ban, of course, which comes in on february the first, and anyone breaching that faces a criminal record and an unlimited fine . good, because in unlimited fine. good, because in my view they don't go far enough. many of these people owning these dogs are already

criminals. that's not to say that they aren't many good owners as well, but why would you want such a volatile dog? it's scary . how can you have one it's scary. how can you have one of these in the same room as your child? look, i don't care who's at fault when these things attack, in my view, forget attack, but in my view, forget what breed they are. all dogs over certain should over a certain weight should also in public and xl also be muzzled in public and xl bully should be classed as a weapon environment. secretary weapon in environment. secretary steve barclay said all excel bully owners are expected to comply with the law and will work closely with police , canine work closely with police, canine and veterinary experts and the animal welfare groups with further restrictions on xl bully dogs coming into force on the 1st of february, the government has taken a staggered approach to safely manage the existing population bully dogs, population of xl bully dogs, whilst ultimately banning the breed and xl bully dog, and i think in my view should be classed as a weapon.

all right, so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. asking you the great british debate this hour. more?.king you the great british debate this hour. more? rishi you the great british debate this hour. more? rishi sunak you the great british debate this hour. more? rishi sunak or>u the great british debate this hour. more? rishi sunak or sir trust more? rishi sunak or sir keir starmer? now it comes as the two leaders released their new year's messages. i'll also be asking if there's anything sunak do. anything at all. sunak can do. anything at all. not bringing back dominic cummings goodness sake. cummings for goodness sake. that can voters ahead of the can win voters ahead of the general election. then, at 450, it's world view. we'll cross live to los angeles with paul duddndge live to los angeles with paul duddridge the duddridge to host of the politics podcast to get politics people podcast to get the latest on donald trump and whether he'll be able to appear on the 2024 ballot in several states. now this is ridiculous, isn't it? i talk about democracy. it comes as the former president is barred from the main presidential ballot. maine is a place, a state under a an insurrection charge. police say hundreds of sealed court documents about the late sex offender, jeffrey epstein, are set to be made public this week,

with several prominent names, including britain's prince andrew, former president bill clinton to appear . stay clinton expected to appear. stay tuned. that's all on the way. in the next tell what you the next hour. tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gb views gb news. com or tweet me at . news. com or tweet me at. gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, former labour adviser matthew lazard. matthew good to be with you. >> and you're looking spectacular . nana, if i may say so. 50. >> so. >> are you finally not in a jacket? don't get used jacket? and also don't get used to course . 26 lowest to it. of course. 26 lowest carry i looking equally glamorous. oh he's so good, isn't he . trained him up that's isn't he. trained him up that's why. very well trained . why. very well trained. otherwise he better trained than an xl bully. >> em- e also have >> well it's true, i also have an underneath his seat. >> if he says anything , i don't >> if he says anything, i don't know. start with you, know. i'll start with you, though, uh, lois. xl though, lois. okay. uh, lois. xl bully dogs. what's your thoughts? i love thoughts? and listen, i love dogs, i animals, but dogs, i love animals, but i wouldn't of those. um, wouldn't have one of those. um, yeah , well, i love dogs, but yeah, well, i love dogs, but i couldn't eat a whole one.

>> um, think that the bully >> um, i think that the bully dogs yeah. no dogs are really hungry. yeah. no no, i love dog owners . no, i love dog owners. >> like, trolling me on twitter . >> like, trolling me on twitter. >> like, trolling me on twitter. >> i must admit, i am a cat person. that doesn't mean that i dislike dogs completely, but i do prefer cats. but on this particular issue, this . i don't particular issue, this. i don't think they've gone far enough. the government , because what the government, because what they done, have they should have done, they have in breed , but in effect banned the breed, but they're still allowing them to be homes and leads be in the homes and out on leads and now now and things like that. now now that little girl was killed by a dog dog, family dog. so we're dog dog, a family dog. so we're still leave it open for there to be, killings, uh, dog be, uh, killings, uh, dog murders, if you like, in the family home. and also, we've already discussed how the people that dogs or want that own these dogs or want these going be these dogs aren't going to be these dogs aren't going to be the world's most responsible owners. of them are, though. >> some of them, because there are some fair enough. are some very fair enough. >> whole >> but you also get the whole bill sikes , um, you know, uh, bill sikes, um, you know, uh, dog thing . what was the name of dog thing. what was the name of his dog? >> who was bullseye ? >> oh, who was bullseye? >> oh, who was bullseye? >> but bill sikes obviously had. bullseye was a it was a big, chunky dog weapon oliver chunky dog as a weapon in oliver twist . right. so, you know,

twist. right. so, you know, you're going to have people like that well. we're basically that as well. so we're basically saying, have to follow saying, look, you have to follow is is a story . yeah. is a is a is a story. yeah. yeah. and he was a yeah. exactly. and he was a criminal and all of that. but you know, whole the you know, the whole modern the modern sort of bill sikes will want their big bully dog want to have their big bully dog as you know, because as well. you know, because they're bullies and, um, i think we're leaving this open to, to more deaths, whereas they could have just said everyone that more deaths, whereas they could have a st said everyone that more deaths, whereas they could have a st saiit's/eryone that more deaths, whereas they could have a st saiit's goings that more deaths, whereas they could have ast saiit's going to 1at more deaths, whereas they could have ast saiit's going to be put owns a dog, it's going to be put down. >> well, necessarily , but >> well, not necessarily, but some a bit some people say that's a bit harsh say their harsh because they'll say their dog's all this. so dog's lovely and all this. so this special. this breed is special. >> think they cross >> i think they cross over, don't they. >> cross don't they. >> it to get >> so they cross breed it to get out of it. you know, i think i agree with now. agree with you now. >> think can have >> i mean, i think we can have consensus here that the government is doing at least the minimum. actually minimum. um, and that actually they classified as they should be classified as weapons. you weapons. i mean, i think, you know, owners to know, dog owners have to remember everybody know, dog owners have to remerlikes everybody know, dog owners have to remerlikes , everybody know, dog owners have to remerlikes , even everybody know, dog owners have to remerlikes , even the erybody know, dog owners have to remerlikes , even the sweetest likes, likes, even the sweetest of know, especially of dogs, you know, especially kids. , a lot of kids. um, you know, a lot of kids. um, you know, a lot of kids have to really struggle around dogs. so around dogs. and so the assumption that every dog owner has is that the of the has is that the rest of the world has to like it or lump it isn't unfair. think, you isn't unfair. and i think, you know, a bit like we

know, i think it's a bit like we overindulge kids now. we overindulge dogs as well. just as wrong these as kids can do no wrong these days, think sometimes we get days, i think sometimes we get the prevails among the attitude prevails among dog owners that dogs can do no wrong. but certainly in the case of the xl i see of the xl bully, i can't see why anybody i'm anybody wants to own one. i'm afraid the protests that we've seen the seen from owners about the restrictions being too harsh fall very ears. far fall on very deaf ears. as far as i'm concerned, it's like having on leash , isn't it? >> that's a good line. that's a great line. >> but it really is. mean, you >> but it really is. i mean, you were the were saying when they put the picture have picture up could not have invented this. picture up could not have inv i just don't get and the >> i just don't get it. and the thing of the people thing is, a lot of the people who said, who are killed, as you said, were family or were they were family pets or in a friend's house. yeah. that were they were family pets or in a frienlad house. yeah. that were they were family pets or in a frienlad wase. yeah. that were they were family pets or in a frienlad was atyeah. that were they were family pets or in a frienlad was at his]. that were they were family pets or in a frienlad was at his friend's young lad was at his friend's house. i think was the house. i think it was the friend's expect friend's dog. they don't expect the that. the dog to behave like that. other when other people were killed when they emergency . so they had a medical emergency. so say a fit or something where they behaved in manner that they behaved in a manner that wasn't frightened , normal, which wasn't frightened, normal, which frightened the dog, or when the dog in grieved with heat dog was in a grieved with heat or like that . so in or something like that. so in those when that those circumstances, when that kind of is stressed, you kind of dog is stressed, you don't know what its reaction will and that is the will be. and, and that is the problem with these things. absolutely >> and i that, i mean,

>> and i think that, i mean, frankly, need to frankly, all dog owners need to be conscious dogs react frankly, all dog owners need to be around>us dogs react frankly, all dog owners need to be around other dogs react frankly, all dog owners need to be around other people. 1s react frankly, all dog owners need to be around other people. and act frankly, all dog owners need to be around other people. and most to around other people. and most of are. of them, the vast majority are. but you've breed, but when you've got this breed, which reactions which is where the reactions are so can which is where the reactions are so is can which is where the reactions are so is so can which is where the reactions are so is so extreme, can which is where the reactions are so is so extreme, then can which is where the reactions are so is so extreme, then it's can which is where the reactions are so is so extreme, then it's just:an do is so extreme, then it's just too strong. just too big too strong. they're just too big and powerful. and they're too just powerful. >> do of my >> well, what do you think of my idea earlier on in the programme, i suggested that actually those i realise you're blending background, actually those i realise you're blending because background, actually those i realise you're blending because backgro look at matthew, because when i look at you, see you. am you, i can barely see you. am i mixing with the tree at home? yeah. head colour of yeah. my head is the colour of the background. can't the background. then you can't go anything but chameleon. >> why? remember. was >> why? can't remember. i was going . i think going with that now. i think it's the angle at it's just the angle you're at turning chameleon. turning into a chameleon. no, not , not chameleon like. not comfy, not chameleon like. >> head spinning >> my head was spinning resembled bauble, but what was resembled a bauble, but what was i what was i saying? you i saying? what was i saying? you saying going further? yeah. no, me!- ymg >> no, i was saying that perhaps looking of the >> no, i was saying that perhaps lookiias of the >> no, i was saying that perhaps lookiias so of the >> no, i was saying that perhaps lookiias so that of the >> no, i was saying that perhaps lookiias so that way1e >> no, i was saying that perhaps lookiias so that way you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looireally so that way you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looireally exclusively way you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looirbreed,(clusively way you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looirbreed, butsively way you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looirbreed, but you're nay you're >> no, i was saying that perhaps looirbreed, but you're sayingr're on a breed, but you're saying that dog has beyond a that if your dog has beyond a certain weight in public, it needs be muzzled? needs to be muzzled? not obviously needs to be muzzled? not obvbutly about needs to be muzzled? not obv but ly about those big, >> but what about those big, gentle you know, they're gentle dogs? you know, they're called saint bernards and they're of houses , they're like the size of houses, but they're, you know, they haven't been bred to be completely insane violent . completely insane and violent. >> one of them decide then >> one of them does decide then you're in trouble.

>> i, i do agree, but >> no, no, i, i do agree, but isn't it to do the size of the jaw? that could taken jaw? maybe that could be taken into consideration because isn't that completely that because they can completely lock their jaws? that's another reason . reason. >> i think that's the big thing. >> i think that's the big thing. >> can on. >> yeah, they can lock on. >> yeah, they can lock on. >> so maybe breed can >> so maybe any breed that can lock a lock jaw. yeah, maybe that's a good idea. that's a nice adaptation. you at adaptation. what do you think at home? i mean, i don't think i'm being but jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, but jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, look, but jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, look, it but jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, look, it could ut jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, look, it could be jaw, home? i mean, i don't think i'm bmean, look, it could be youraw, i mean, look, it could be your own little friend. oh, there he is, lovely. own little friend. oh, there he is, your lovely. own little friend. oh, there he is, your hand. ly. own little friend. oh, there he is, your hand. yeah >> pick your hand. yeah >> pick your hand. yeah >> he's not gonna his mouth >> he's not gonna take his mouth off in trouble. off there. you're in trouble. yeah, absolutely. you're in trouble. you know? >> frightening. trouble. you know? >> yeah. frightening. trouble. you know? >> yeah. fitakes1ing. trouble. you know? >> yeah. fitakes ram. he's. >> yeah. or it takes ram. he's. he's harmless . oh i'm he's the harmless. oh i'm talking about the dog. the dog. not not my style of dress. >> no no. >> no, no, no no. >>— >> no, no, no no. >> your lowest zahawi. that's going to work out. just the one arm. the one. no, i'm going to get in gym. arm. the one. no, i'm going to get! in gym. arm. the one. no, i'm going to get! haven't gym. arm. the one. no, i'm going to get! haven't been m. arm. the one. no, i'm going to get! haven't been able go. >> i haven't been able to go. yeah, look fabulous. yeah, i think you look fabulous. >> i wrong? 22 >> no, thanks. am i wrong? 22 minutes after 4:00. if you're a dog and i've it dog lover and i've got it totally i'd to hear totally wrong, i'd love to hear your views gbnews.com your view. gb views gbnews.com or me at gb news. or tweet me at gb news. where live tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. up next, it's time for the great british debate. hour. i'm debate. this hour. and i'm asking, you more

asking, who do you trust more rishi sunak keir starmer rishi sunak or sir keir starmer and is there anything, anything that rishi sunak do to win that rishi sunak can do to win back your vote of the back your vote ahead of the general election ? that's on the general election? that's on the way

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this hour. and asking, this hour. and i'm asking, who do more? rishi sunak, do you trust more? rishi sunak, sir starmer and there sir keir starmer and is there anything could do to anything that rishi could do to get now? the us get your vote now? the us political leaders have delivered their new year's message as they prepare the ahead. their new year's message as they prep.the the ahead. their new year's message as they prep.the leader ahead. their new year's message as they prep.the leader of ahead. their new year's message as they prep.the leader of the ahead. their new year's message as they prep.the leader of the opposition now the leader of the opposition highlighted a tough year and have a listen what he said on have a listen to what he said on behalf of the labour party, i'd like to wish you all a happy new year. yeah >>i yeah >> ihope yeah >> i hope you had a wonderful christmas it's 2023, has been a year of pride and achievement for the lionesses yet again . so for the lionesses yet again. so close to doing an unprecedented double. and of course, a year when our country stepped into a new era with a new king, king charles the third crowned in the spring. and this year, in britain, the power to shape the future of our country will rest in your hands in the labour party . we've been building to party. we've been building to this for four years. we're confident we have a plan that

can move our country forward , can move our country forward, end the cost of living crisis , end the cost of living crisis, take back our streets , get the take back our streets, get the nhs back on its feet . it cheaper nhs back on its feet. it cheaper energy bills for your home, more opportunity for your children . opportunity for your children. >> so that was keir starmer. this is rishi sunak's message this morning. >> happy new year everyone . i >> happy new year everyone. i hope you had a great christmas . hope you had a great christmas. we can look back on a pretty momentous year. we've delivered record funding for the nhs and social care . schools in england social care. schools in england are surging up the global league tables. we're getting the economy growing, we've cut inflation in half, we've delivered the biggest business tax cut in modern british history. and in just the last few weeks we've seen an incredible £60 billion of investment into the uk . so my investment into the uk. so my new year's resolution is to keep driving forward in six days time, we'll deliver a tax cut for 27 million people worth . on for 27 million people worth. on average £450. inflation is set to fall, further cutting the

cost of living for everyone . and cost of living for everyone. and we're not stopping there. we're going further to grow our economy by reducing debt, cutting taxes and rewarding hard work , building secure supplies work, building secure supplies of energy here at home, backing british business and delivering world class education. and we're taking decisive action to stop the boats and break the business model of the criminal gangs from our incredible armed forces and nhs staff who take care of all of us to our tech experts, scientists and innovators who are putting our economy at the global cutting edge, we should look forward full of pride and optimism for what we can do together to build a brighter future for everyone. that's what i'm determined to do , and i wish i'm determined to do, and i wish you all a very . i'm determined to do, and i wish you all a very. happy i'm determined to do, and i wish you all a very . happy 2024. my you all a very. happy 2024. my god , that was so boring. god, that was so boring. >> both of them. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is there anything sunak can do to win a general election? he do election? anything he can do to

get me, uh, get your vote? joining me, uh, to discuss that former liberal democrat minister norman baker, conservative peer daniel conservative peer lord daniel moylan former editor the moylan, former editor of the labourlist and labourlist peter edwards and political gb political commentator and gb news chloe dobbs. news contributor chloe dobbs. i'm going to start with you, peter well labour have peter edwards. well labour have this massive and consistent poll lead, but they won't be complacent. >> so of course , there are >> so of course, there are things sunak do . the things rishi sunak can do. the prime pull the prime minister can pull the levers thing will levers. the thing that will worry is twofold . worry him, i think, is twofold. one, on most of one, that he's behind on most of his pledges of his core five pledges, the only one he's met is on inflation and that's the pledges, the only one he's met is orheiflation and that's the pledges, the only one he's met is orhe has on and that's the pledges, the only one he's met is orhe has little d that's the pledges, the only one he's met is orhe has little or hat's the pledges, the only one he's met is orhe has little or hat control one he has little or no control over. one he has little or no control over . it's decided by, uh, bank over. it's decided by, uh, bank of which independent of england, which is independent setting interest rates. and then on you played, on the message, you just played, he seemed upbeat . he seemed very upbeat. >> and that's discordant with the public feel. you know, if you're trying to a gp you're trying to get a gp appointment, seen food appointment, if you've seen food inflation 33 0, um, over two inflation up 33 0, um, over two years and so on and so on, britain is faces a lot more challenges . it's more expensive. challenges. it's more expensive. it's a tougher place to live at the moment. so i think the challenge for sunak is, you the moment. so i think the challe hee for sunak is, you the moment. so i think the challe he was sunak is, you the moment. so i think the challe he was wayak is, you the moment. so i think the challe he was way too;, you the moment. so i think the challe he was way too upbeat in

know, he was way too upbeat in his message and that just doesn't chime with reality. >> he was way upbeat. >> he was way too upbeat. both of was of them were so boring. it was unbelievable. what do you unbelievable. chloe, what do you think ? think? >> well, nana, i do agree that they were both boring, but i would say that keir starmer was the more boring of the two. >> i mean , he clearly hasn't >> i mean, he clearly hasn't practised reading off a script very well because when he's reading off a script, he is completely monotone. rishi was a little bit better in that respect. >> got criticisms of both >> i've got criticisms of both of , but i think that rishi of them, but i think that rishi did a betterjob to be honest. >> he kept it positive. keir starmer i think he sort of put himself a a bind. himself into a bit of a bind. there by starting off talking about the war between israel and gaza, which of course know about the war between israel and gazpartyich of course know about the war between israel and gazparty is of course know about the war between israel and gazparty is very ourse know about the war between israel and gazparty is very divided know about the war between israel and gazparty is very divided over.n his party is very divided over. that's not exactly going to unite his party. and make them upbeat for the new year. so i think i would give it to rishi on this one, comparing these messages now, with, um, messages now, i agree with, um, with that he's made some with peter that he's made some bold there and acting as bold claims there and acting as if the world's all getting better when we're all actually really struggling with the cost of living crisis. nhs waiting

lists, etc. so in that lists, etc. and so in that sense, it definitely makes rishi seem a little bit untrustworthy. maybe rishi could have just focussed on the halving inflation. and we're going to bnng inflation. and we're going to bring cut. he's he's bring you a tax cut. he's he's meant rishi is meant to be an economist was the economist and he was the chancellor, the chancellor, but he's made the mistake there saying mistake there of saying inflation coming down. inflation is coming down. therefore um, things are getting cheaper for people and the cost of living is easing . that's not of living is easing. that's not true. if inflation goes down, that that means prices are still going up, but at a slower rate, it people's lives. going up, but at a slower rate, it that people's lives. going up, but at a slower rate, it that was people's lives. going up, but at a slower rate, it that was hispeople's lives. going up, but at a slower rate, it that was his biggest lives. going up, but at a slower rate, it that was his biggest ..ives. but that was his biggest. >> biggest thing, >> that was his biggest thing, wasn't you'd be saving wasn't it? that you'd be saving or not spending if or not spending as much if inflation down, it inflation comes down, but it would anyway . uh, would have come down anyway. uh, norman? , i mean, i norman? well, look, i mean, i think they were both boring. >> matter but with >> as a matter of fact, but with a where the prime a situation where the prime minister which he minister pulls out bits which he can defend as a record, record spending on the nhs. well, yes, but waiting getting but waiting lists are getting longer for operations longer every day for operations supporting british business. well, which government doesn't support business any support british business of any colour. pretty colour. so that's pretty meaningless. and as far as keir starmer concerned. well keir starmer is concerned. well keir starmer was saying we've got a plan. avoiding saying

plan. he's avoiding saying anything he doesn't want anything because he doesn't want anything because he doesn't want a before a hostage to fortune before the elections. idea what elections. i have no idea what they're going to if they get they're going to do if they get in. just be rather old in. i'd also just be rather old fashioned people fashioned to remind people that, first they're in two first of all, they're all in two parties in this country as lib dems, plaid country and dems, snp, plaid country and others and reform uk as well, no doubt. but as well as that , doubt. but as well as that, people vote for for their people vote for the for their individual mp and i hope what people will do when it comes to the ballot look at their the ballot is look at their individual candidates and say , individual candidates and say, who's best person for this who's the best person for this constituency to represent me locally that's an locally because that's an important yeah, important factor as well. yeah, but a lot of people don't know their constituent so their their constituent mps, so they bother and they don't even bother and therefore they just vote with their party. daniel well, funnily agree with funnily enough, i agree with everything norman said. everything norman just said. i would people vote would like to see people vote for constituency mps much for their constituency mps much more than they do at the moment, andifs more than they do at the moment, and it's not for want. if they don't know the name, it's not for on the part for want of trying on the part of because they for want of trying on the part of actually because they for want of trying on the part of actually irrespective se they for want of trying on the part of actually irrespective of they are actually irrespective of party. working party. they're out there working very leaflets out, very hard to get leaflets out, get name in front of the get their name in front of the voters. thing. voters. that's the first thing. second agree second thing is, i'd agree generally with this idea that,

um, starmer fails to convince because he will not tell us what the plan is. this plan is going to deliver a huge number of benefits. listed all the benefits. he's listed all the benefits. he's listed all the benefits. there's no downside to the plan. there's no cost to the plan. there's nothing plan. there's no nothing that could plan . could go wrong with the plan. but he's got the plan. but he's not willing say what it is. not willing to say what it is. now, understand is, now, i understand why that is, but much but it doesn't carry much credibility at moment. credibility at the moment. >> need need to >> well, we need people need to know so know what they're voting for. so very to ask very briefly, i'm going to ask you to give name whether you to give me a name whether if out i know there you to give me a name whether if out other i know there you to give me a name whether if out other parties, i know there you to give me a name whether if out other parties, but|ow there you to give me a name whether if out other parties, but we'vezre are other parties, but we've only played two speeches, so i'm going you, going to start with you, daniel. out who you out of those two, who do you trust? i will the trust? well, i will go with the conservatives. trust? well, i will go with the conservati my job. >> that's my job. >> that's my job. >> okay. um. uh, norman, i do trust neither of them, but. but if you had to choose one of them. >> come on. well, i'm not going to either them, >> come on. well, i'm not going to i either them, >> come on. well, i'm not going to i wouldn't them, >> come on. well, i'm not going to i wouldn't vote|, >> come on. well, i'm not going to i wouldn't vote for because i wouldn't vote for either my either of them. i would spoil my ballot choose ballot paper. i would choose the lib dems also. >> redwood's. >> peter redwood's. >> peter redwood's. >> of i support >> of course, i support keir starmer, but more importantly, the public, support as well. >> a poll in the sunday times well. >> a [miles the sunday times well. >> a [miles aheadinday times well. >> a [miles ahead of ay times well. >> a [miles ahead of sunakes well. >> a [miles ahead of sunak on shows miles ahead of sunak on trust on leadership, and chloe, i i'll stick with rishi,

i think i'll stick with rishi, but like most people , i'm very but like most people, i'm very politically homeless and it's a case of picking the better of two evils. >> the of the two >> yeah, the lesser of the two evils. better the devil. you know devil you don't. a know than the devil you don't. a thank my thank you so much to my panellists. much, panellists. thank you so much, daniel peter and chloe, daniel norman. peter and chloe, lovely to talk to you. right so what do think at home? what do you think at home? vaiews@gbnews.uk first vaiews@gbnews.uk um, but first let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> thank you. nana it's 434. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom , rishi sunak struck an newsroom, rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his new year message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance . reduction in national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous year which saw inflation halved and record investments in the nhs . that's despite junior nhs. that's despite junior doctors in england planning their longest walkout in nhs history. next month. the prime minister says his new year's resolution is to keep driving forward. boris johnson's former

chief adviser says rishi sunak tried to strike what he called a secret deal in a bid to win the next election . dominic cummings next election. dominic cummings told the sunday times that he was to prepared help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were prioritised . that reportedly includes overhauling defence capabilities and preparing for future pandemics. the proposal was apparently rejected by the prime minister. number 10 did not deny the report, but says mr cummings was not offered a position . the was not offered a position. the family of a mother and her son, who were killed in an avalanche in the french alps, say they're beyond heartbroken. kate vokes, who was 54, died when an avalanche swept through an off piste ski slope on mont blanc on thursday . her 22 piste ski slope on mont blanc on thursday. her 22 year old son archie, was also killed . he had archie, was also killed. he had achieved his level one ski instructor qualification just a year earlier. there family asked for privacy, saying the tragic accident had left a hole in their lives . and happy new year

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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . news is. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 41 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's the 31st of all i'm very excited. so hopefully you're do something you're going to do something exciting tonight. maybe stay in and gp news. it's and watch. more gp news. it's quite exciting . but we are live quite exciting. but we are live and we've got still to come loads more. but right now it's time for the great british debate. this out i'm asking is there anything, anything that rishi can to back rishi sunak can do to win back voters general

voters ahead of the next general election ? in the uk, political election? in the uk, political leaders delivered their new leaders have delivered their new year's message as they prepare for the battle the for the battle ahead at the ballot box, and the leader of the opposition ignited or highlighted, not ignited nothing. nothing went up there. highlight the tough year gone by, but pledged a future of hope and change. whereas the prime minister, rishi sunak, focussed on celebrating the momentous year that we've had and promised to keep driving forward next year.i to keep driving forward next year. i don't to keep driving forward next year . i don't know, was he here year. i don't know, was he here for don't know what he for it? i don't know what is he talking about? so for the great british i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking anything, asking what, if anything, can the prime minister do to win your vote or to win back a vote? let's see what my panel make of that. joining me now, former labour adviser matthew laza and also social commentator and cop26 . perry. i cop26 director lois. perry. i started with lois last time, so i'm going to start with you. matthew can sunak do anything to get some votes back, or is it definitely labour's? think definitely labour's? i think it's pretty tough. >> it's labour's to lose >> i think it's labour's to lose in that , you know,

in the sense that, you know, there could be you know, you never know what's going to happen never happen in politics and you never know if something's going to explode. labour party . explode. for the labour party. but we've got the but i think and we've got the example , if the election isn't but i think and we've got the ex maye , if the election isn't but i think and we've got the ex may butf the election isn't but i think and we've got the ex may but goes election isn't but i think and we've got the ex may but goes ele tilln isn't but i think and we've got the ex may but goes ele till october, in may but goes on till october, we've london mayoral we've got the london mayoral election, big election, which could be a big surprise. will election, which could be a big surmay. will election, which could be a big surmay. think will election, which could be a big surmay. think so, will election, which could be a big surmay. think so, know, be may i think so, you know, clinging you know, if, clinging to power. you know, if, if know, the economy gets if you know, if the economy gets a khan a bit better, sadiq khan loses by point . um, by half a percentage point. um, you know, things could get you know, then things could get tougher for labour party. tougher for the labour party. but think it's about but it is i think it's about sort of question of how the tories rid of rather tories have got rid of rather than, you know, a labour majority. be, you know, majority. will it be, you know, labour be a minority government? i think the real answer for the tories is not to bring back dominic . i mean, this tories is not to bring back dcabsolutely . i mean, this tories is not to bring back dcabsolutely extraordinaryln, this is absolutely extraordinary revelations over the revelations so good over the past 24 hours. um, which is you know, the idea that the sort of tories cap in to tories are going cap in hand to dominic will dominic and saying, will you come to us? and he says, come back to us? and he says, yes, y, and z is yes, if you do x, y, and z is the minister, the prime the prime minister, the prime minister dominic cummings the prime minister, the prime ministerof dominic cummings the prime minister, the prime ministerof primeninic cummings the prime minister, the prime ministerof prime ministernmings the sort of prime minister the tories the sort of prime minister the torihe's the prime minister >> he's not the prime minister though, liz truss the though, is he? liz truss is the prime be. though, is he? liz truss is the prirwell, be. though, is he? liz truss is the prirwell, she's be. though, is he? liz truss is the prirwell, she's not be. though, is he? liz truss is the prirwell, she's not though,3. though, is he? liz truss is the prirwell, she's not though, is >> well, she's not though, is she she's >> no she's not. >> no she's not. >> no she's not. >> no didn't. you know, she >> no she didn't. you know, she didn't survive. didn't she

didn't survive. she didn't she didn't survive. she didn't she didn't . that's an unusual view didn't. that's an unusual view though. i mean, it's not that many people out there crying for liz truss to be in power. >> well, i'm not, not. look, >> well, i'm not, i'm not. look, i'm that necessarily. i'm not saying that necessarily. i'm not saying that necessarily. i'm she i'm just saying she won that she won the election within her party party leader and party to be the party leader and then was thrown out unceremoniously. so a lot of people has people would say that he has no mandate didn't vote for >> i mean, they didn't vote for liz either. for liz truss either. they voted for bofis be liz truss either. they voted for boris be prime minister. >> no he wasn't. >> no he wasn't. >> no, the party then >> no, the party members then voted well. yeah yeah. look, we're . absolutely. we're both right. absolutely. we're absolutely. we're both right. absolutely. i don't too critical of don't want to be too critical of rishi because. no, no. and i having lunch with him in january. no. >> i know about that. >> well i don't know about that. i go . no i'm teasing >> well i don't know about that. i know, go . no i'm teasing >> well i don't know about that. i know, gono,o i'm teasing >> well i don't know about that. i know, gono,o i'm �*goting you know, but no, we've got to be though. be honest though. >> no, i, no, no, i've >> i mean no, i, no, no, i've always want to always been honest. i want to talk about they're to deliver. >> absolutely. >> no. absolutely. is there anything do that anything that he could do that would work that you think that would work that you think that would voters? would bring back the voters? well i mean, he obviously has no connection with proper tory voters, which is probably why he went to dominic cummings. >> not because , you know, he >> not because, you know, he wants the machiavellian master , wants the machiavellian master, my star, back in number 10, necessarily, but because he knows dominic has an almost

knows that dominic has an almost innate connection with what people want when cummings has a connection with what people want , well, they got brexit through. look i know the guy that said that he was testing his eyes look i know the guy that said that ihevas testing his eyes look i know the guy that said that the wasesting his eyes look i know the guy that said that the was going his eyes look i know the guy that said that the was going to; eyes look i know the guy that said that the was going to barnard when he was going to barnard castle when he's face castle. he okay when he's face to face with people? yeah. probably not. but in terms of having a connection in the mood and of the country, we and stuff of the country, we can't deny in the past he can't deny that in the past he has that, okay. all right. has shown that, okay. all right. well, rishi believes he does . well, rishi believes he does. and that's why rishi obviously decided him he decided to bring him back in. he thinks need to connect thinks i need to connect with voters the tory voters voters because the tory voters will just stay at home, or they'll vote for the smaller right wing party, cos they won't. they won't necessarily, you not going you know, then they're not going to tory. to vote tory. >> i think listen if it's >> i think they listen if it's going to be a keir starmer dead cert, then i think there's a strong chance that a lot of tory voters and a lot of people who haven't said anything about because of because i think it's 29% of people that people are undecided that is a huge and a lot more huge that is huge and a lot more focus on what labour says. >> unprecedented recent >> it's unprecedented in recent times . times. >> swing. that's a swing. number of yeah. neither party

of votes. yeah. so neither party is a dead cert. and . there is is a dead cert. and. there is the emergence of the smaller parties as well. so it could end up being one those where up being one of those where you've got potentially the conservatives amount , conservatives on a lower amount, but well and but then reform doing well and if reform were to join, i think they could take some seats. they would join with the conservatives. think the conservatives. so i think the labouh conservatives. so i think the labour, think labour party labour, i think the labour party really be thinking about really need to be thinking about it talking what their it and talking about what their policies terms of >> well, i think in terms of reform will be reform it, labour will be overjoyed we the overjoyed that we saw the announcement. uh , sort of announcement. uh uh, sort of over christmas. that reform made clear they're going to stand in every single seat. that's every single seat. but that's pathetic labour. pathetic for labour. >> should >> do you think they should be thinking policies? >> i policies? » i policies? >> i look, i think >> well, i think look, i think labour has a good labour thinks it has a good offer. i think his offer. i mean, i think that his message i message wasn't is what i thought. want mean, thought. do you want me? i mean, which it's message. a which it's a message. it's a message reform . it's message of economic reform. it's a message of sort in the health service. 7.5 service. remember, there are 7.5 million people on health service waiting list. how? no, mean, waiting list. how? no, i mean, wes is probably wes streeting, who is probably the of brightest people the one of the brightest people in been setting in the party he's been setting out. been saying out. you know, he's been saying things use things like he's going to use the sector. he's wants the private sector. he's wants to bring in 24 hour hospitals.

so non—dom status that they've already started the non—dom status. >> well, the but i'm going to be honest, i thought they were both as christmas messages. >> for ed >> i when i worked for ed miliband, one of my jobs was to write and direct the christmas message . first of all, i'm not message. first of all, i'm not sure why wasn't any sure why keir wasn't wearing any makeup because wee bit makeup because it's a wee bit pasty. filmed just pasty. probably filmed just before but before christmas. um, but i thought know, one thought that, you know, on one side, keir looked rather funereal and didn't exactly side, keir looked rather funerhope.|d didn't exactly side, keir looked rather funerhope. and dn't exactly side, keir looked rather funerhope. and dn'tthelctly side, keir looked rather funerhope. and dn'tthe other offer hope. and on the other hand funeral and on the other hand, funeral and on the other hand, funeral and on the other hand, and on the other hand, you had rishi, looked like who had rishi, who looked like who looked his usual sort of chirpy chirpy chappie. he sort of sixth form prefect, trying to tell everybody that things are great and things and people don't feel things are great. do they? >> i don't think people >> um, i don't think people feel that all. that things are great at all. and you know, he's talking about cutting inflation. uh, rishi well, it needn't have been so high place. but high in the first place. but then starmer, good then keir starmer, good god, i mean , what is what is on mean, what is what is going on with cuts and the angle with the cuts and the angle changes and all of that? i think he thought it made him look like a something. a bomber or something. but i don't everyone saw the don't know if everyone saw the home that home alone style thing that rishi i thought that rishi sunak did. i thought that was embarrassing . i thought it

was embarrassing. i thought it diminished the status of him as being prime minister. it shows me he doesn't take the whole thing . you know, he's thing seriously. you know, he's been shoehorned in. been shoo shoo shoehorned in. he'll you know, he'll be got he'll be, you know, he'll be got out again and do the handover to keir and all of that, which i think is possibly been already decided. know, was decided. and you know, it was just election just how can the election already decided? already been decided? >> voted. >> people haven't voted. >> people haven't voted. >> voted . but, >> people haven't voted. but, you know, they're okay. so i believe that there are corporate interests that make that that can make donations and decisions. on a meta level, i honestly, honestly think that that that keir starmer is going to definitely become prime minister but with not with the majority that people are going on about. i think it could even be that they to team up be that they have to team up with parties, but then with other parties, but then reform will become very important. i'm just important. but i'm just interested your very interested in your point very quickly. why do you think i know why? but why do you why? i think, but why do you think a mistake think it's a mistake for a reform to be putting candidate reform to be putting a candidate in every seat?

>> i don't think it's i mean, from their point of view, it's not a mistake because want not a mistake because they want to get as many votes as possible. i think it's i mean, but obviously will from but obviously it will split from the of the labour party's point of view. because that the labour party's point of viewin because that the labour party's point of viewin places cause that the labour party's point of viewin places splite that the labour party's point of viewin places split the it will in some places split the tory anti—labour that makes >> the anti—labour that makes the will the assumption that it will be tory all tory voters, that it's not all of think in the red wall, tory voters, that it's not all othink, think in the red wall, tory voters, that it's not all othink, yeah,< in the red wall, tory voters, that it's not all othink, yeah, that'se red wall, interesting. >> and i what happen >> and i think what will happen is there are a lot of labour voters with voters who are not happy with this centric this sort of metro centric sort of that's emerged this sort of metro centric sort of doesn't that's emerged this sort of metro centric sort of doesn't represent emerged this sort of metro centric sort of doesn't represent its erged this sort of metro centric sort of doesn't represent its core! that doesn't represent its core and go to, i think there and will go to, i think if there wasn't reform candidate that wasn't a reform candidate that they they might blend to wasn't a reform candidate that thejtories they might blend to wasn't a reform candidate that thejtories inhey might blend to wasn't a reform candidate that thejtories in the might blend to wasn't a reform candidate that thejtories in the red ht blend to wasn't a reform candidate that thejtories in the red wall.end to the tories in the red wall. >> so that's the that's the thinking. >> they're leaving >> but they're still leaving the labour party. that's the. yeah. and about that. >> it needs to one that. >> it needs to that. >>ineedssto that. >>ineedstoo that. >> ineeds to talk one keys. that. >> ineeds to talk to e keys. that. >> ineeds to talk to the keys. that. >> ineeds to talk to the red s. keir needs to talk to the red wall as one his key tasks. wall as one of his key tasks. >> the problem the >> i think the problem with the labour done labour party is they have done well default constantly labour party is they have done well haven't fault constantly labour party is they have done well haven't seen constantly labour party is they have done well haven't seen anythingy labour party is they have done well goten't seen anythingy labour party is they have done well got and seen anythingy labour party is they have done well got and we've nythingy labour party is they have done well got and we've seen ngy they've got and we've seen already papers, they've got and we've seen alreadya papers, they've got and we've seen alreadya more papers, they've got and we've seen alreadya more there iers, there's a lot more there is obviously any sense, obviously going to be any sense, quite more quite rightly, much more detailed scrutiny of policies quite rightly, much more detai as, scrutiny of policies quite rightly, much more detai as, scru know, policies quite rightly, much more detai as, scru know, callings quite rightly, much more detai as, scru know, calling for such as, you know, calling for more detail on tax, etc. >> well, it's a good job, matthew. >> and lewis, but this show is nothing without you and your views. welcome our great views. let's welcome our great british voices on to their show. uh, opportunity to be on

uh, their opportunity to be on the and us they the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. if i've discussing. uh i wonder if i've got . there's an old globe, got a map. there's an old globe, right? knew that be you. right? i knew that would be you. new well . let's new at home as well. let's head over the over to miranda richardson. the miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, not the miranda the news miranda richardson, the gb news and richardson. miranda and miranda richardson. miranda >> hahahahaha! afternoon , >> hahahahaha! good afternoon, nana and happy new to you. nana and happy new year to you. >> new to too. so >> happy new year to you too. so what do you think? let's hope 2024 actually answers 2024 brings us actually answers to various questions , one of to various questions, one of which being what are any of these policies that we should be looking out for? >> because do you know what i have actually haven't really got a clue. and you know, the question today is about rishi sunak. question today is about rishi sunak . has he done enough all sunak. has he done enough all they're doing is rolling out the same old vitriol. as always , nhs same old vitriol. as always, nhs immigration, asian, helping the economy . economy. >> but with what? because as yet i've got no idea. and they're they're both the same. >> you know . and we and we just >> you know. and we and we just go round and round in circles. i think we, we say it often that it's always flannel.

>> i think it was really interesting with it with the panel before. >> who said actually get to know panel before. >> vlocalaid actually get to know panel before. >> vlocal mp|ctually get to know panel before. >> vlocal mp ,tually get to know panel before. >> vlocal mp , get ly get to know panel before. >> vlocal mp , get to get to know panel before. >> vlocal mp , get to know know panel before. >> vlocal mp , get to know what your local mp, get to know what works for you locally. >> because actually i think if we looking a little we all start looking a little bit closer to home as to where we that's when we're going we are, that's when we're going to start making better decisions i >> -- >> uh, hum: >> uh, rather than looking at the waffle that comes out of, you know, various political leaders mouths as to how they're going lives better for us. >> us. >> i know in my industry, you know , we're absolutely up know, we're absolutely up against it at the moment. >> he had one. he had one chance to make that better for us with vat and didn't guess what you've lost . lost. >> you know, an entire industry , >> you know, an entire industry, you know, that generates a lot of income and a lot of employment in this country did nothing to help us whatsoever. >> so it's not just like an idea of some of the policies would be good. all would. miranda. good. we all would. miranda. and the doesn't look the thing is, it doesn't look like i don't know whether we're going but going to get anything, but i suspect that don't, suspect that if we don't, i think people might start looking at keir starmer and at it sir keir starmer and thinking, actually , better thinking, well, actually, better

the know than the the devil you know than the devil you don't. well, listen, miranda, hopefully you're going to a busy evening to have a is it a busy evening at pub tonight? we've got at the pub tonight? we've got about night tonight. >> party night tonight. >> party night tonight. >> bringing the new yearjust >> bringing in the new yearjust the it. the way i like it. >> thank you so much, >> ah, thank you so much, miranda. thank you so for miranda. thank you so much for all. all your wonderful thoughts on gb views and miranda richardson. not the miranda richardson, news miranda richardson, the gb news miranda richardson, the gb news miranda richardson northamptonshire. richardson, the gb news miranda richarour�*n northamptonshire. richardson, the gb news miranda richarour greatorthamptonshire. richardson, the gb news miranda richarour great british jtonshire. richardson, the gb news miranda richarour great british voice. re. she's our great british voice. right though. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital have paul digital radio. uh, we have paul duddridge, the host of the politics people podcast, on the way after the weather. >> brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell, looking ahead to the first day of 2024. and for most of us we will see some further rain. but there will be some sunshine on offer. back to the here and now. we still have this of low pressure this area of low pressure dominating the uk. note the tightly isobars across

tightly packed isobars across the south, indicating some fairly blustery conditions we fairly blustery conditions as we see at 2023. and for most of us, as we approach midnight, really it's going to be a mix of clear spells showers . it it's going to be a mix of clear spellbriefly showers . it it's going to be a mix of clear spellbriefly drier howers . it it's going to be a mix of clear spellbriefly drier for/ers . it may briefly turn drier for a time for the bells across parts of scotland , and then towards of scotland, and then towards the of the in any the end of the night in any clear turn fairly clear skies, it will turn fairly chilly, especially in the countryside across the north, where will see a touch of where we will see a touch of frost. so you are up early frost. so if you are up early enough on new year's day, there will be some sunshine around, especially parts of especially across parts of northern into wales and northern ireland into wales and into . but we see into the midlands. but we see this next area of cloud and rain coming in from the southwest, and that will spread its way slowly northwards we go slowly northwards as we go through the course the day. through the course of the day. so sunshine come so the best of the sunshine come the will across the afternoon will be across the north, but here still watch out for showers, as for a few showers, as temperatures range temperatures in the north range in 5 to 7 degrees, in between 5 to 7 degrees, potentially up to 10 to 11 across the south, and then on to tuesday. a fairly wet day for a lot of us, especially across the south. some wet and windy weather potentially developing here. are keeping a close

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>> is this coming up. >> is this coming up . to three >> is this coming up. to three minutes to 4:00? this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's new year's eve but happy new year to you. not yet. i mean, it's tomorrow, but we'll bnng i mean, it's tomorrow, but we'll bring of the bring you some of the celebrations that going celebrations that are going on around the world. i'm nana akua now. we've now. throughout the show, we've been liz been discussing xl bully, liz and introduced and the new laws introduced today, they must be today, saying that they must be kept wear muzzle. kept on a lead and wear muzzle. let's the let's take a look at some of the things inbox. um, things in the gb news inbox. um, so, daph says it's sad, but i get are dangerous so, daph says it's sad, but i get need are dangerous so, daph says it's sad, but i get need .sensiblezrous so, daph says it's sad, but i get need .sensible and. and we need to be sensible and ban them. of the poor ban them. think of the poor families years families celebrating new years without loved ones who without their loved ones who were killed by these dogs. so true, pete says. stand the sass on the shores of dover with xl bullies and see how fast the boats turn back. problem solved. that's a good idea . kate says it that's a good idea. kate says it is. people who bomb, kill, maim, murder and hate, not dogs. maybe we should rethink who needs a muzzle . yeah, but that's not muzzle. yeah, but that's not going to stop them, though, is it? a muzzle is not going to stop someone of vladimir putin from or from pressing the button or sending whatever.

from pressing the button or sending! whatever. from pressing the button or sending! with whatever. from pressing the button or sending! with you hatever. from pressing the button or sending! with you that 'eh from pressing the button or sending! with you that we listen, i agree with you that we need ourselves, listen, i agree with you that we need don't ourselves, listen, i agree with you that we need don't bringrrselves, listen, i agree with you that we need don't bring inalves, listen, i agree with you that we need don't bring in ales, listen, i agree with you that we need don't bring in a monster don't don't bring in a monster to your house, even though it looks to looks like a nice monster to begin with. but let's see what my panel make that. i'm my panel make of that. i'm joined by former labour advisor matthew wilson, social matthew laza wilson, social commentator matthew laza wilson, social commenta'now matthew, i can lois perry. now matthew, i can imagine she's imagine people saying she's called my a monster. i don't called my dog a monster. i don't mean it like that, but i mean, they can be quite monstrous, can't they? if they want to be. >> it's a >> absolutely. i mean, it's a bit, dogs can be very bit, you know, dogs can be very severe, just bullies, you severe, not just xl bullies, you know, we can see attacks from all breeds . so know, we can see attacks from all breeds. so i think know, we can see attacks from a|bit breeds. so i think know, we can see attacks from a|bit of breeds. so i think know, we can see attacks from a|bit of responsibilityo i think know, we can see attacks from a|bit of responsibility from ink a bit of responsibility from even responsibility from even more responsibility from dog there dog owners, because there are some there amongst some bad apples in there amongst all yeah, i mean, i'm, i'm >> yeah, i mean, i'm, i'm actually quite frightened of dogs and i do understand what you're saying about nobody owners etc, etc. but you know, dogs do turn , they turn for lots dogs do turn, they turn for lots of reasons and, and it's not necessarily their fault. i mean, you can look at these evil looking dogs, the xl bullies , looking dogs, the xl bullies, they have been bred specifically , actually, not just to be big and to be muscly. and the jaw

and to be muscly. and the jaw and all of that, but to be slightly mentally unhinged. i don't know if they've done that by in breeding or whatever, but they've done something to make them lose it, they've done something to make them lose it , to lose control them lose it, to lose control and to attack indiscriminately as well. so yeah , it's not it's as well. so yeah, it's not it's not good either. >> and when one has clamped its jaws on you, there's very little that you can do. absolutely that you can do. it's absolutely even man, even two even a man, even a man, even two men open even a man, even a man, even two men open the door, killed men can't open the door, killed men. killed big, men. i mean, it's killed big, strong . it's not just, you strong men. it's not just, you know, little people and small people like us. like us little people, little people , little people, little people, little tiny girls like us. >> so sorry. will you stop dying in the corner? >> i'm slightly dying here. get. get the chair and go get out of the chair and go outside the studio. >> die with you. >> i'll go and die with you. could. die could. you could you kindly die somewhere ? somewhere else? >> don't slam the door on your way . it me laugh. >> don't slam the door on your way what me laugh. >> don't slam the door on your way what sets me laugh. >> don't slam the door on your way what sets mee laugh. >> don't slam the door on your way what sets me off.ugh. that's what sets me off. >> bad man . well, listen. >> that's bad man. well, listen. parts of april welcoming the new year , and we're about to join year, and we're about to join them in their countdown for 2024. let's cross live to bangkok 1024 from sam kwasi

nato. >> so we've got a little celebration there in bangkok in thailand. >> this is i don't know where we are for this one, but we've got about 30s until their countdown, which is odd because on my thing it says it's 5:00. do they do 30s? they're not on the hour. then it's a bit odd , isn't it? then it's a bit odd, isn't it? don't you think? but anyway, let's . i think it's because let's. i think it's because there's a slight delay. actually, do actually, they're about to do their . here we go. their countdown now. here we go. are you ready? you can count with ten, nine. with them. ten, nine. >> eight. seven. six. everyone fouh >> eight. seven. six. everyone four, three. two. >> one. let's go . >> one. let's go. >>— >> one. let's go. >> happy new year , happy new >> happy new year, happy new year. yeah >> wow . wow. >> wow. wow. >> wow. wow. >> see the unrivalled messiah, theicon >> see the unrivalled messiah, the icon of our time . she did the icon of our time. she did what a woman should . i shall.

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digital radio. i'm nana akua where are as we all where we are now as we all you're listening to. if you're where we are now as we all yotthe listening to. if you're where we are now as we all yotthelisteniand 0. if you're where we are now as we all yotthelisteniand 0. if can'te where we are now as we all yotthe listeniand 0. if can't see on the radio and you can't see the are the festivities the pictures are the festivities in bangkok , where in thailand, in bangkok, where they have welcomed in the they have just welcomed in the new year. they've got fireworks galore as their fireworks across the world, and we are bringing you the festivities as they happen across the world here on gb news. so do stay with us. it's just coming up to three minutes after 5:00 tynus guy anker gong . anker gong. >> we hope tiger lee liang ying, tiger

i >> -- >> so we've just heard the festivities in thailand. there was that giant buddha as well. giant gold buddha . that was giant gold buddha. that was fabulous. well, stay with us. this is gds on tv, online and on digital radio. let's get your latest news with sophia . latest news with sophia. >> thank you nana. good afternoon. it's 5:03. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom .

wenzler in the gb newsroom. rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his new year message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance . he described national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous year, which saw inflation halved and a record investment in the nhs . record investment in the nhs. that's despite junior doctors in england planning their longest walkout in nhs history next month . the prime minister says month. the prime minister says his new year's resolution is to keep driving forward . keep driving forward. >> inflation is set to fall further cutting the cost of living for everyone and we're not stopping there. we're going further to grow our economy by reducing debt, cutting taxes and rewarding hard work , building rewarding hard work, building secure supplies of energy here at home, backing british business and delivering world class . education class. education >> meanwhile, the labour leader says the power to shape the future of britain rests in everyone's hands. sir keir starmers message offered a preview of his party's election

campaign , saying 2024 needs to campaign, saying 2024 needs to give britain its future back in the labour party. >> we have been building to this for four years. we're confident we have a plan that can move our country forward, end the cost of living crisis , take back our living crisis, take back our streets, get the nhs back on its feet , cheaper energy bills streets, get the nhs back on its feet, cheaper energy bills for your home, more opportunities for your children . for your children. >> boris johnson's former chief adviser says rishi sunak tried to strike what he called a secret deal in a bid to win the next election . dominic cummings next election. dominic cummings told the sunday times that he was prepared to help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were prioritised . that reportedly includes overhaul , defence . that reportedly includes overhaul, defence capabilities and preparing for future pandemics. number 10 did not deny the report, but says mr cummings was not offered a position . the family of a mother

position. the family of a mother and her son, who were killed in and her son, who were killed in an avalanche in the french alps, say they're beyond heartbroken. kate vokes , who was 54, died kate vokes, who was 54, died when an avalanche swept through an ski slope on mont an off piste ski slope on mont blanc on thursday . her 22 year blanc on thursday. her 22 year old son archie, was also killed and he had achieved his level one instructor qualification one ski instructor qualification in just a year earlier. their family asked for privacy , saying family asked for privacy, saying the tragic accident has left them with a hole in their lives . them with a hole in their lives. they eurostar trains are back in service today after a burst pipe derailed travel plans for thousands of passengers. all eurostar trains between london and paris came to a halt yesterday as water flooded a tunnel beneath the river thames. many passengers were left facing expensive hotel bills , while expensive hotel bills, while others desperately searched for alternate travel routes. services are running normally today, but congestion is expected while the backlog is cleared . the australian cleared. the australian journalist john pilger has died

at the age of 84. he came to prominence in the 1960s as the chief foreign correspondent at the daily mirror in london, the youngest person to receive britain's prestigious journalist of the year award. he was also the first to win it twice. now far from controversy, his work often criticised british foreign foreign policy, impartiality at the bbc and the corporate ownership of mainstream . media ownership of mainstream. media meanwhile , it's looking a lot meanwhile, it's looking a lot like a windy new year's eve for many people across the uk tonight. a yellow alert is in place until 6 am. tomorrow, with the strongest of the winds expected in the north—west the met office is warning of delays to road, rail, air and ferry transport. gusts of 55 miles are likely . possibly up to 75 miles likely. possibly up to 75 miles in coastal areas . britain's new in coastal areas. britain's new year celebration . are still year celebration. are still a few hours away, but the parties

already started in other parts of the world . and. happy new of the world. and. happy new year to hong kong, as well as japan, taiwan , thailand and japan, taiwan, thailand and australia. the famous harbour bridge in sydney opera house were alight with colours and sparkle with fireworks bursting from landmarks and boats scattered throughout the water. earlier, the sky tower in auckland, new zealand, was illuminated in blazing colour as the country became one of the first to in the new year. first to chime in the new year. thoughit first to chime in the new year. though it was beaten by the pacific nation of kiribati, which the new year at which entered the new year at 10:00 this morning . this is gb 10:00 this morning. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . nana >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. there's

loads more still to come. we've got the great british debate plus special new plus i've got a special new year's eve monologue. but every sunday at five i'm joined by a celebrity, former mp or celebrity, a former mp or someone extremely someone who's had an extremely interesting talk about interesting career to talk about life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learned and comes next on and what comes next on the outside . and today, my special outside. and today, my special guest, the first working day afterwards will be discussing this offers a chance of a fresh start, particularly for those in unhappy marriages dubbed d—day. the first day back at work after christmas annually sees record numbers of people start divorce proceedings . so i'm joined by proceedings. so i'm joined by a very special guest who is outside divorce. it is, of course, divorce coach sarah davidson. sarah, welcome . davidson. sarah, welcome. >> oh, thanks for having me back. >> nana. that's right. so i've got an outfit a bit like that, but you do. the buttons on but you do. the buttons are on a different bit and but it's different bit and all, but it's really to you back different bit and all, but it's really we to you back different bit and all, but it's really we to to you back different bit and all, but it's really we to to talk back because we love to talk to you every year. because this is every new year. because this is the time lots of people the time when lots of people start looking across at their partners , spent way too much partners, spent way too much time with them the time with them over the christmas they've christmas period, and they've not they're

not liked the way they're chewing talking just, chewing or talking or just, frankly , breathing, and they're frankly, breathing, and they're thinking , i frankly, breathing, and they're thinking, i want to get out of this. >> yeah , absolutely. and that's >> yeah, absolutely. and that's why have divorce day. um, not why we have divorce day. um, not a very happy day, but it is the day where most summit is. well, yeah, for some it yeah. and yeah, for some it is. yeah. and it is where are more it is where there are more people filing for divorce on this other day this day than any other day of the what say. the year. that's what they say. i usually spreads the year. that's what they say. i over usually spreads the year. that's what they say. i over januaryy spreads the year. that's what they say. i over january . spreads the year. that's what they say. i overjanuary . um, spreads the year. that's what they say. i overjanuary . um, any'eads the year. that's what they say. i overjanuary . um, any time out over january. um, any time after you've spent quality time with your partner , that's when with your partner, that's when if there are cracks in the relationship, it's going to show . right. and i think right now with financial situation, i with the financial situation, i think there was a survey think there's there was a survey recently that said that over 50% of people who are married felt friction in their marriage because their mortgages had gone up.and because their mortgages had gone up. and 32% would never leave their partner because they didn't to live alone. so didn't want to live alone. so even though divorce rates seem to coming down bit, think to be coming down a bit, i think we're still . the reason we're still. the reason is people don't can't right people don't want or can't right now divorced. find it now get get divorced. i find it fascinating that people fascinating that some people don't to live alone because don't want to live alone because it's . it's wonderful. >> what are thinking? you >> what are you thinking? you don't deal with that

don't have to deal with that nonsense. get it, i get nonsense. no, i get it, i get it. i understand that some people, people need to with people, people need to be with other i'm one of other people, but i'm one of those very if those who. i'm very happy if i have somebody really like. have somebody who i really like. but if that's not available, then i'm. i love being on my own. i love my own company. i would rather be than would rather be alone than be with who i don't really with somebody who i don't really want to be with. who want to be with. yeah, who doesn't me? doesn't want to be with me? >> this is the >> and i think this is the thing, you know, you can't make somebody more somebody love you by doing more of what don't appreciate. of what they don't appreciate. so if you're in so i think if you're in a relationship that isn't working, isn't healthy, you've tried isn't healthy, and you've tried because the thing is, divorce is known most known as the second most traumatic we traumatic life experience we go through. not in through. so it's not easy in any kind tough, but kind of break—up is tough, but divorce, especially the divorce, especially with the legal well . and if legal side as well. and if you've got kids as well, obviously that's a big shift. um, so yeah, i think a lot of people who are independent and can see that bright side, it definitely a bright side. definitely is a bright side. nana on my as nana i love living on my own as well, think that well, but i also think that there's that are so there's some people that are so used to living people used to living with people that it really tough used to living with people that it now. really tough right now. >> em- right now. >> the financial right now. >> of the financial right now. >> of it the financial right now. >> of it tican'tancial right now. >> of it tican't be ial aspect of it that can't be diminished . aspect of it that can't be diminished. but yeah, but i do sometimes go to friends who

sometimes go to my friends who are, or are, you know, married or whatever, have whatever, and i always have a look because look around their house because i'm see you in your i'm nosy. can i see you in your house? and they go and house? and they let me go and i go the because go to the bedroom because they've got it nice and tidy, because i know know i'm because i know they know i'm nosy and i see this tiny bed and i think you two sleep in that because it's a double bed. i shouldn't say it's too small for two people. i think to myself, god, i love my sort of out there like cartoon like this. do the cartoon running legs and all that is that there are lots of benefits of being singles. >> watching are >> there are people watching are going that right now. going through that right now. heartbreak it heartbreak is tough. i mean, it is , um, and there's lots of is, um, and there's lots of things do to improve things you can do to improve that. of the good that. and some of the good things and the benefits are being watch news being able to watch gb news and not want switch not having anyone want to switch the know, star the channel or, you know, star fishing in the but i think, fishing in the bed. but i think, you know , it can for you know, it can be hard for people and of people get people and a lot of people get stuck. people stuck. and a lot of people say to especially january, to me, especially in january, i don't answers . i to me, especially in january, i don't answers. i need don't have the answers. i need closure, to back closure, i need to go back and ask them why they've this, ask them why they've done this, but the thing is, the person that hurt you can never heal you. yeah. so you have to find your with those your own closure with those kind of because, know,

your own closure with those kind of do because, know, your own closure with those kind of do i because, know, your own closure with those kind of do i get because, know, your own closure with those kind of do i get it cause, know, your own closure with those kind of do i get it that e, know, your own closure with those kind of do i get it that people ;now, your own closure with those kind of do i get it that people want why do i get it that people want to know they want closure. >> end of day, >> but at the end of the day, if somebody they don't somebody says to me they don't want be i'll be like, oh, want to be me, i'll be like, oh, that's sorted then am that's sorted it, then what am i even any time with even wasting any more time with you? see later. feel bad, you? see you later. i feel bad, i'm but i don't want to i'm upset, but i don't want to be somebody want to be with somebody i don't want to be with somebody i don't want to be you told me. be with. i'm glad you told me. i don't want to waste any more of my that's you'd my life. that's what you'd really somebody to really ideally want somebody to tell want to tell you. if they don't want to be but what would be with you. um. but what would you. of heartbreak. experience of heartbreak. so you're here you're not just coming here talking tell talking about it? no, no. tell people not people your story because not everybody about everybody has heard. yeah. about the . the ugly crying. >> yeah, think made it >> yeah, i think i've made it loads. ugly crying the loads. ugly crying on the bathroom floor. after i found out my husband wanted out my husband no longer wanted to be married to and it came out my husband no longer wanted to at married to and it came out my husband no longer wanted to a complete to and it came out my husband no longer wanted to a complete shock. and it came out my husband no longer wanted to a complete shock. like it came out my husband no longer wanted to a complete shock. like itcame as a complete shock. like it really see it coming. really didn't see it coming. and now, obviously now, with hindsight, obviously there were obviously flags there were obviously red flags like were flags? like like what were the flags? well that we went out, we were in australia. we had we were working out in australia together actually, and we went shopping a pair shoes shopping for a pair of shoes before were speaking at before we were speaking at events there. he to events out there. and he said to me, like those shoes. me, oh, i like those shoes. for my wedding, going my next wedding, i'm going to wear and wear shoes like that. and looking back now, i'm thinking,

that's pretty obvious at the time. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> obviously was >> well, obviously i was a bit shocked, yeah , i don't shocked, but i yeah, i don't know, sometimes you feel like a real . for not seeing these real idiot. for not seeing these signs and or not wanting to see them. i think a lot of the time, you know, that things aren't great, but you don't want great, but you don't really want to it. so that kind to face up to it. so that kind of this? of guy is this? >> w- w— >> who said that? oh, bless him, he's telling he's just literally telling you because that you'd because he was hoping that you'd work to work it out so he didn't have to deal with it. >> probably it was like >> well, probably it was like dropping hints along the way, but obvious when dropping hints along the way, butmet obvious when dropping hints along the way, butmet somebody bvious when dropping hints along the way, butmet somebody else. s when dropping hints along the way, butmet somebody else. so hen he met somebody else. so yeah, having sort of realised that he didn't me , and didn't want to be with me, and he'd met somebody else who was madly um, madly in love with. yeah. um, and pregnant. and she was also pregnant. within a months, you have to within a few months, you have to kind pick yourself back up. within a few months, you have to kindthat's k yourself back up. within a few months, you have to kindthat's k youryou back up. within a few months, you have to kindthat's k youryou have up. and that's when you have the choice, carry choice, right? you either carry on doing crying on the on doing the ugly crying on the bathroom pick bathroom floor, or you pick yourself up and you say, you know what? isn't to know what? this isn't going to define life. i'm define the rest of my life. i'm going to my power back and going to take my power back and dial down those negative emotions, which are the tools that really to me that i created really to get me through. and that's what through. and that's now what i share my share with people through my books groups books and my support groups and things offer , things like that, that we offer, because there'll be a lot of

people in a situation people who are in a situation where they don't really want to be person that they're be with the person that they're with, to deal be with the person that they're with,that to deal be with the person that they're with,that situation to deal be with the person that they're with,that situation or to deal be with the person that they're with,that situation or tryingal with that situation or trying to make which i say is the make it work, which i say is the first thing you should do. >> course, invested >> of course, you've invested a lot energy lot of time and energy into this, isn't working this, but when it isn't working and you've acknowledged that now what's the next step? >> i think really , you've got to >> i think really, you've got to plan leave. i see plan before you leave. i see a lot people sort jumping lot of people sort of jumping ship, you ship, but actually, if you haven't row , haven't got your ducks in a row, you haven't looked at, where might will the might you live? what will the finances how are you finances look like? how are you going cope with not seeing finances look like? how are you goirchildren e with not seeing finances look like? how are you goirchildren every! not seeing finances look like? how are you goirchildren every! not rthat's the children every day? that's a big lot people. big issue for a lot of people. so actually coming terms with so actually coming to terms with some things, putting some of those things, putting some of those things, putting some will really some plans in place will really help towards that. if help you move towards that. if you your you can communicate with your partner, always good partner, that's always a good thing well. you're thing as well. if you're in a healthy you can healthy relationship, you can sit and look, this sit down and say, look, this isn't working , but how do we do isn't working, but how do we do this kindness ? this with respect and kindness? because the amicable because even the most amicable of relationships will get to be difficult. there will be conflict . it might be over the conflict. it might be over the kids. it'll probably be over the money. it will be who the money. it will be who gets the piano. will piano. those sort of things will really start to get under your skin. but especially you've skin. but especially if you've

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and get latest. my map is and get the latest. my map is there from the host and the politics people podcast. paul duddndge politics people podcast. paul duddridge paul, happy new year. it's not new year. you're there. you're behind , aren't you? so you're behind, aren't you? so you've more until it you've got more time until it happens. , so what a happens. but anyway, so what a what a sobering what a sobering i am. >> that was i was sat here questioning my own marriage and validity . what a what, what a validity. what a what, what a way to end 2023. >> gosh , well, it's not over >> gosh, well, it's not over yet. >> we've got we've got loads more coming. but what's going on in sort of moment in in this sort of moment in america, new year's eve, is it going to be a big one? and what's happening trump what's happening with trump and biden? every day is new biden? well every day is new year's day with donald trump. >> every day is christmas with donald trump. every day is some festive occasion. donald trump. every day is some festbutoccasion. donald trump. every day is some festbut yeah,on. donald trump. every day is some festbut yeah, now remember last week. >> remember the news last week? >> remember the news last week? >> he's been from , uh, >> he's been banned from, uh, he's banned from the ballot he's been banned from the ballot in colorado . in colorado. >> that's over now he's back on the ballot in colorado, temporarily at least until they decide in the supreme court whether he's going be allowed decide in the supreme court whtheer he's going be allowed

decide in the supreme court whthe ballot going be allowed decide in the supreme court whthe ballot ining be allowed decide in the supreme court wh the ballot in colorado. allowed decide in the supreme court whthe ballot in colorado. now,ed on the ballot in colorado. now, they've him the ballot they've taken him off the ballot in we talked in maine. and i think we talked last about you need these last week about you need these electoral , uh, votes. electoral college, uh, votes. maine has four electoral college votes. okay there's 538. maine has four of them. so he was never going to win it anyway. but he has been taken off the ballot by an unelected, not even a lawyer, by an unelected secretary of state named shenna bellows . and she has decided in bellows. and she has decided in her infinite wisdom, to, to, uh, remove donald trump without, like i said, she's never faced election herself. she has decided to interpret the law that he is removed from the ballot . that's the state of ballot. that's the state of justice in maine, in the usa, as we leave 2023, go . we leave 2023, go. >> so he's back on. he's not on, he's back on, he's not on. it's all a bit of a mess. aren't people looking at this thinking, what on earth is going on? >> yes, yes, they really are. >> yes, yes, they really are. >> it's embarrassing. it's dishonest. it's corrupt. >> i mean, i'm happy to say that it's corrupt. >> i mean , there is no it's

>> i mean, there is no it's absolutely , uh, unequivocally , absolutely, uh, unequivocally, uh, dodgy, this whole thing. but you can see this is lawfare . the you can see this is lawfare. the american public voted the wrong way, and they will do absolutely anything, the establishment to make sure they don't get that opportunity again . and this is opportunity again. and this is what is keeping trump and the minions of the establishment, uh, at loggerheads. they're trying to keep him away from any chance at all of being president again. it's quite extraordinary to witness. >> it's not going to work out for them because you've got the swing state as well of pennsylvania now, 35,000 swapped from to republican. and from democrat to republican. and that's , that's that's a big, big that's, that's that's a big, big thing, isn't it? because i know that was one of the indicators states . states. >> that's huge . yes, exactly. >> that's huge. yes, exactly. uh, pennsylvania is one of the six main states that he needs to win. it's like pennsylvania, michigan, arizona , georgia, etc. michigan, arizona, georgia, etc. so pennsylvania is one of the important ones. he has to win . important ones. he has to win. and yes, you've had 35,000 and registered democrat. yes. flipping through, being registered republicans, you've

had traffic. the other way, had some traffic. the other way, but it's like 20,000, uh, but it's like a 20,000, uh, change. and you've got to remember that when it comes to the us election , because it's the us election, because it's a winner takes all kind of game. it's like many, many british general elections, you win the state by maybe a few thousand votes. so if we believe biden won in 2020, uh, the he only won by something like 43,000 votes across the nation . because you across the nation. because you win a county, then you win the state and you get those electoral college votes. so to see 35,000 democrats switching to republican is kind of huge in a swing state and an important swing state. >> and also important . nikki >> and also important. nikki haley and ron desantis said they would pardon trump if he became president . so all these trumped president. so all these trumped up charges, sorry , pardon the up charges, sorry, pardon the pun, just a waste of time . pun, are just a waste of time. >> yeah, exactly. look, it's now, as we said last week, this is going to be the pattern of every election in the future , every election in the future, that this was always going to be

thrown at every candidate. and the mechanism will always be other people promising to pardon when they come out the other side. the whole side. i mean, i think the whole thing disgraceful that we're thing is disgraceful that we're evenin thing is disgraceful that we're even in this position, that you can't have just a clean, fair fight. >> yeah, well , that was then. >> yeah, well, that was then. this is now. it's just not happening, is it? now listen, we've 30s. we've got about 30s. so apparently more than 150 people are jeffrey epstein, are linked to jeffrey epstein, and those names are going to be revealed tomorrow . revealed tomorrow. >> finally unsealing the, uh, jeffrey epstein , uh, case files jeffrey epstein, uh, case files from 2015. 150. up until now, they've been john doe's and jane doe's. their names are going to be released from tomorrow . and be released from tomorrow. and that's, long as there's that's, uh, as long as there's no actions the judge no other legal actions the judge has ordered that they be unsealed from january the first. so there's lots of, uh, squeaky tummies going around in the upper echelons of society. wow >> listen, paul duddridge, always a pleasure. thank you so much. happy new year to you and happy a pleasure. look happy new year a pleasure. look forward week forward to seeing you next week in the new year. that's paul duddridge, of the politics duddridge, host of the politics people podcast. but coming up,

it's for the great british it's time for the great british debate this i'm asking, debate this hour. i'm asking, is there the british there any point in the british royal family any more? and this comes asks comes as a huge poll asks 175,000 people why? why the royals exist and king charles will be informed of the results . will be informed of the results. i'll be joined by my fabulous panel i'll be joined by my fabulous panel. don't go anywhere

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tuned in, where on earth have you been. oh okay. fair enough. 26 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. but i've got to say, what a year it's been for the royal family. now, we started this year with prince harry releasing his controversial that his controversial memoirs that we also had the coronation of king charles the third back in may, and prince harry's book wasn't the only literary, literary royal raucous this year . omid scobie, he came with his book end game, which appeared to be that it is for him after that, his investigation into the state of the royal family. then you had the royal race row with sibling factions and loads more . sibling factions and loads more. as we look ahead to the next yeah as we look ahead to the next year, it's been announced that a new will the public on new poll will ask the public on their opinions the their opinions of the royal family, with this mind, family, with this in mind, it's time great british time for the great british debate this out asking, debate this out and i'm asking, is any point the royal is there any point to the royal family this day age ? see, family in this day and age? see, so let's see who's there. i'm joined by former bbc royal correspondent michael cole, human rights and lgbt campaigner peter tatchell and anti—racism campaigner femi nylander. right

well, i'm going to start with you, michael. the royal family some people, they're coming under of fire, but this under a bit of fire, but this poll interesting . do you poll will be interesting. do you think is a for the think there is a role for the royal family >> hello, nana, this is an absurdity. >> it is a complete misconception . what is the misconception. what is the department of culture, digital media and sport got to do with spending our money? £1.75 million of taxpayers money on on a rather naive survey. look, there . are 193 nations in the there. are 193 nations in the world. they all have a head of state, even switzerland has a head of state. although most people in switzerland don't know who it is apart from. it's always a man. so so a head of state does what a head of state does. state does what a head of state does . and in this country which does. and in this country which we're lucky enough to live in a constitutional monarchy , what constitutional monarchy, what the king does is he signs off

the king does is he signs off the laws . a bill does not become the laws. a bill does not become a statute until he signs it. and i believe that that is one of the best defences we've ever had against extremism and dictatorship in this country. because if they put before king charles the third an oppressive piece of legislation shall we say, like the 1936 nuremberg laws in germany . see, i know laws in germany. see, i know that he would refuse to sign it, and but can he though but but but has that ever happened? >> has he ever has he ever he has refused to sign something he would provoke a constitutional crisis and the people will then be able to decide whether they were on the side of the monarchy or they were on the side of parliament. >> we've got a monarchy that goes back two. alfred, the great, uh, who burned the cakes and did many other things, setting up co—educational education among other things. so

apart from 22 years when we had apart from 22 years when we had a commonwealth which was a republic in disguise with with cromwell, we've had a monarchy and we didn't much like the repubuc and we didn't much like the republic under cromwell. so we restored . restored. >> listen, restored. >> well, listen, i've got to get the in, so i've to the others in, so i've got to get the in. so i'm going get the others in. so i'm going to get peter in to respond to that. peter tatchell, what do you a you think of that? there's a there's . don't think you think of that? there's a there's anything)n't think you think of that? there's a there's anything wrong nk you think of that? there's a there's anything wrong with you think of that? there's a there'the ything wrong with you think of that? there's a there'the surveywrong with you think of that? there's a there'the survey , rong with you think of that? there's a there'the survey , uh,] with you think of that? there's a there'the survey , uh, in'ith doing the survey, uh, in my view. do think with view. but what do you think with regard to monarchy ? regard to a monarchy? >> clearly the fact that >> well, clearly the fact that this survey is being conducted indicates that there are worries within high echelons, both within high echelons, both within the government and the royal family that the monarchy is losing support. and that is true to a successive polls over recent years have showed a slow but steady decline in support for the monarchy and for the idea that the royal family should be the vehicle for head of state. uh, among young people more than a third now say that

britain should have an elected head of state, a democratically elected head of state chosen by the people for a fixed terme and removable by the people if they fail to do their job. so clearly fail to do theirjob. so clearly this is a pr exercise designed to find out what the public thinks and then hopefully in the eyes of the royal family and the government to fix it to shore up support. do you think, though they know it is slipping away? i'm just going to pull you up on something though, because literally, we want literally, whether we want a monarchy or not has been one of the literally the most consistent polls. >> i the before it >> so i think the year before it was it was 63% and was 66. this year it was 63% and so on. that is and it's so on. so that is and it's always just around there. and i just want to mention with young people also surveys have been done that show that young people don't tend to be that in favour of a monarchy until they get older. so it seems to be that as they grow with the monarchy, it would appear that their support sort but femi, what's

sort of grows. but femi, what's your view ? your view? >> well , just what mr cole said. >> well, just what mr cole said. >> well, just what mr cole said. >> i want to pull him up on two points. the first point, of course, being that mentioned course, being that he mentioned that a of that the survey is a waste of taxpayers money. wondering, taxpayers money. i'm wondering, has heard about this taxpayers money. i'm wondering, has called heard about this taxpayers money. i'm wondering, has called the 'd about this taxpayers money. i'm wondering, has called the monarchy,is taxpayers money. i'm wondering, has called the monarchy, where thing called the monarchy, where taxpayers towards taxpayers money goes towards paying taxpayers money goes towards paying andrew's legal paying prince andrew's legal bills he was doing bills for when he was doing dodgy things mr epstein, dodgy things with mr epstein, who you were recently referring to on your show as bibas family 150 names coming out one second. we don't know whether the money came from, but know, know, okay. >> we don't whether we've >> we don't know whether we've dodgy jeffrey dodgy things with jeffrey epstein. he's he's associated we don't they know each don't know. okay. they know each other. but for that, we don't don't know. okay. they know each other.that. for that, we don't don't know. okay. they know each other.that. sorry. :hat, we don't don't know. okay. they know each other.that. sorry. :hat, von.ion't know that. sorry. carry on. >> don't we >> okay. we don't we don't we don't we don't i didn't specify any dodgy things. >> mean >> dodgy things could mean eating a bar. that was eating, um, a mars bar. that was two days out of date. we didn't say the things were, but say what the things were, but anyway, thing. the anyway, um, the other thing. the other other thing other thing, the other thing that to pick up. mr that i wanted to pick up. mr poll of poll on was the question of dictatorship . the monarchy is dictatorship. the monarchy is based hinckley a legacy of when the uk was run by dictatorships . the uk was run by dictatorships. henry the eighth was a dictator.

all of the monarchs who precedes him were dictators. these were people who had absolute power and were not elected. so to say that monarchy, which is basically a of absolute basically a relic of absolute dictatorship when supposedly we were less than, we were less developed and civilised to have a constitutional monarchy and democracy . no, monarchy is a democracy. no, monarchy is a relic of dictatorship . the idea relic of dictatorship. the idea and someone put a tweet tweet up the other day saying this is absurd, that some 40 year old guy bowing to someone in year guy is bowing to someone in year six. absurd that people six. it is absurd that people are to someone because of are bowing to someone because of who his was and who his who his dad was and who his granddad . that gives you granddad is. that gives you no standing being to standing as to being able to run a means nothing. it a country. it means nothing. it just means that your dad your just means that your dad or your granddad grandmother granddad or your grandmother was someone. that someone. so the idea that monarchy a protection against monarchy is a protection against dictatorship, because some unelected whose dad unelected individual whose dad or whose mum used to run the country is able to, um, not sign something into law. and of course they like charles, can't get with saying i'm not get away with saying i'm not going to sign this. and charles does off on many pieces of does sign off on many pieces of oppressive his oppressive legislation, and his mum on pieces of mum signed off on many pieces of oppressive legislation. and

britain in loads britain has put in place loads of oppressive legislation over the years, under the years, whether under thatcher and they signed up for it all the time because they know to. know that they have to. >> michael and charles. >> charles, charles charles would sign lot would not want to sign on a lot of charles would not want to sign on a lot of lot charles would not want to sign on a lot of lot of charles would not want to sign on a lot of lot of ideas charles would not want to sign on a lot of lot of ideas about harles has a lot of ideas about the environment . environment. >> thing you don't >> that's one thing you don't know charles and know about charles and he signed, still signing know about charles and he signed, that still signing know about charles and he signed, that the till signing know about charles and he signed, that the uk signing know about charles and he signed, that the uk passes. anything that the uk passes. >> the environment . >> that's the environment. >> that's the environment. >> but but you can't speak for king charles as to what he will >> but but you can't speak for ki|won'tirles as to what he will >> but but you can't speak for ki|won't sign as to what he will >> but but you can't speak for ki|won't sign for.) what he will >> but but you can't speak for ki|won't sign for. but at he will >> but but you can't speak for ki|won't sign for. but attakenill or won't sign for. but i take your point may not have your point that he may not have the to not sign but the power to not sign it, but then that only points to the fact have fact that he doesn't really have that at michael that much power at all. michael cole is a. cole yeah, yeah, there is a. bill of rights 1686, which was the new settlement between parliament, uh, and the monarch. >> and since then, of course, the franchise has been extended and extended and extended. and we live in a democracy, a free country . we're very lucky to country. we're very lucky to have that many, many people in this world do not enjoy that privilege. but what peter tatchell said was absolutely right. young people are not so

keen on the on the royal family i know that i took part in a debate at exeter university recently in favour of the monarchy and lost not badly lost, but lost . but i'm going to lost, but lost. but i'm going to acknowledge that . acknowledge that. >> i'll just point out that there are those polls. but it does show that as as people get older, are more likely to older, they are more likely to support a monarchy. listen, i'm running out of time. could running out of time. i could talk to for ages. thank talk to you guys for ages. thank you for thoughts, you so much for your thoughts, sir. cole, sir. uh, michael cole, peter tatchell femi nylander. tatchell and also femi nylander. thank gb thank you so much. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and digital time and on digital radio. time to get news with sophia i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you. nana. it's 534. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . rishi sunak struck an newsroom. rishi sunak struck an optimistic tone in his new year message, promising a brighter future with tax cuts and a reduction in national insurance . reduction in national insurance. he described 2023 as a momentous

yeah he described 2023 as a momentous year, which saw inflation halved and record investment . in the and record investment. in the nhs. that's despite junior doctors in england planning their longest walkout in nhs history. next month. the prime minister says his new year's resolution is to keep driving forward boris johnson's former chief adviser says rishi sunak tried to strike what he called a secret deal in a bid to win the next election . dominic cummings next election. dominic cummings told the sunday times that he was prepared to help the tories win if he was assured the most critical issues were priorities . critical issues were priorities. that reportedly includes overhauling defence capabilities and preparing for future pandemics . the proposal was pandemics. the proposal was apparently rejected by the prime minister number 10 did not deny the report, but says mr cummings was not offered a position . the was not offered a position. the family of a mother and her son, who were killed in an avalanche in the french alps, say they're beyond heartbroken . kate vokes, beyond heartbroken. kate vokes, who was 54, died when an avalanche swept through an off piste ski slope on mont blanc on

thursday . her 22 piste ski slope on mont blanc on thursday. her 22 year old son archie, was also killed. he had achieved his level one ski instructor qualification just a year earlier. there family asked for privacy, saying the tragic accident has left a hole in their lives . britain's new year their lives. britain's new year celebrations are still a few hours away, but the party is already started in other parts of the . world. happy new year to of the. world. happy new year to hong kong as well as japan, taiwan, thailand and australia. hong kong celebrates with a huge fireworks display over victoria harbour in front of hundreds of thousands of people in australia . the famous harbour bridge and sydney opera house were alight with colours and sparkle . and in with colours and sparkle. and in breaking news, the queen of denmark has shocked the nation , denmark has shocked the nation, announcing in her new year's message that she'll vacate the

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channel. >> good afternoon . this is >> good afternoon. this is coming up to 41 minutes after 5:00 on gb news online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate. this houh the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking and ponder the question . and i'm asking, is the question. and i'm asking, is there any point of the british family or royal family in this day and age? so let's see what my panel make of that. joining me, labour adviser me, former labour adviser matthew laza. and also our political commentator lois perry. there any point? >> well, i think for a lot of people, the royal family matter. uh, ah. personally, i think that they are out of time . i think they are out of time. i think we've just that the queen we've just heard that the queen of denmark gracefully of denmark is gracefully standing down. and, um, i think that it would been a moment that it would have been a moment in history if, when that it would have been a moment irafter history if, when that it would have been a moment irafter majesty ory if, when that it would have been a moment irafter majesty the if, when that it would have been a moment irafter majesty the queen1 , after her majesty the queen died, to have reassessed where we're at. but it's not going to happen any time soon. so you know, matter lot of know, they matter to a lot of people. to people. um, but they need to slim down. has to be fair, king charles has tried do they charles has tried to do they need to focussed on public need to be focussed on public service. you know , it's not service. and, you know, it's not their fault. all the pantomime around them. wouldn't around them. but i wouldn't

start it's an femi nylander >> well, it's an femi nylander seemed point there seemed to have a point there that he pointed that that when he pointed out that it's grown it's people bowing to a grown man to man and you're bound to a child's harmony. i sort child's well of harmony. i sort of that that does feel of did think that that does feel a radical. but then they are a bit radical. but then they are the royal family. lois. >> well, not >> yeah, well, they're not bowing particular bowing to that particular individual. bowing to that particular ingwhat al. person represents . to what that person represents. so people love the royal so when people love the royal family, what they're actually saying country and saying is, i love my country and i love myself. and where i'm from and everything that's gone before actually, before. so actually, a constitution or monarchy really is the best of every possible world because you have a head of state that cannot be politically influenced. well, you'd hope not by by fear and favour. yeah he does, but you know, the whole if you look at other countries where you have presidents and prime it's all a bit prime ministers it's all a bit horrible. you know, i just think that there's a continuity with the royal family and, you know, ihave the royal family and, you know, i have been critical of king charles on various things because i think he does get political, but i respect what he represents , and i respect the represents, and i respect the constitution . and. well, what do constitution. and. well, what do you think? >> at home, i love the royal

family. don't mind kneeling family. i don't mind kneeling and a little six and bowing towards a little six year old or whatever. and the king. institution of king. i love the institution of it. history behind it. i love the history behind it. i love the history behind it. would shame it. i love the history behind it. get would shame it. i love the history behind it. get rid would shame it. i love the history behind it. get rid of would shame it. i love the history behind it. get rid of it)uld shame it. i love the history behind it. get rid of it)uld get shame it. i love the history behind it. get rid of it)uld get whatne to get rid of it and get what more elected politicians. i don't think this is don't think so, but this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome of views. let's welcome some of our great british voices, their opportunity show opportunity to be on the show and what think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing of discussing. i've got four of you, david balm i'm going to start you . where's david? start with you. where's david? there they are. on there's just three of you. three of you. >> year everybody. >> new year everybody. >> new year everybody. >> well, you're the >> oh, well, you're in the middle, with >> oh, well, you're in the mid before with >> oh, well, you're in the mid before that, with >> oh, well, you're in the mid before that, you with >> oh, well, you're in the mid before that, you were ith you before that, you were talking to your american correspondents debacle talking to your american corresjhappening debacle talking to your american corresjhappening americabacle talking to your american corresjhappening america with! that's happening in america with the election donald trump's the election of donald trump's election donald trump. election of donald trump. >> had block >> and they had to block him. >> and they had to block him. >> would have >> would would we rather have here a constitutional monarch who is totally unbiased at anything or would do we want an elected head of state who could be a donald trump, a joe biden, but , you know, tony blair would but, you know, tony blair would have loved to have been the elected president of the uk . elected president of the uk. >> and i'd rather have someone who was totally independent,

potentially . potentially. >> the only thing i would suggest is you say , okay, that suggest is you say, okay, that they as long as they they can rule as long as they are until they're 80, and are fit, until they're 80, and then stand down to the then they must stand down to the next in line. you give them till 80. >> why? why would they have to stand? why would they have to stand? why would they have to stand 80? some people stand down at 80? some people are what have we are 80. let's see what have we got? joe biden actually, no, he's he's a fine president. some people are still good at 80. well, go to philip point. well, let's go to philip point. come let's let's go to come on. let's go. let's go to philip. age . yeah okay. let's philip. an age. yeah okay. let's go philip . david, david. go to philip. david, david. we're to philip now. we're going to philip now. >> quiet . >> yeah. keep quiet. >> yeah. keep quiet. >> david. hi, nana. sorry. >> david. hi, nana. sorry. >> um, we love you, david. carry on. philip, you've got 30s. >> absolutely. no. >> absolutely. no. >> as far as far as i'm concerned. um the royal family serves a very important role in this country. and that is, it stops other people seizing power. now you, um, david said about tony blair. that's the first person i thought of. my god, could you imagine what world would be like if he became our president? >> because he'd sell everything, make as much money as he can, ruin the country, then

ruin the country, and then disappear somewhere to an island nearby. i'm loyal to the nearby. but i'm loyal to the royal family. >> the queen was best >> the queen was the best example could ever have. example we could ever have. >> of what a head of state >> yeah, of what a head of state should be. i'm hoping charles will emulate her. >> um, but looking ahead. >> um, but looking ahead. >> the thing i would >> um, but looking ahead. >> is the thing i would >> um, but looking ahead. >> is me thing i would >> um, but looking ahead. >> is i'd like thing i would >> um, but looking ahead. >> is i'd like the1ing i would >> um, but looking ahead. >> is i'd like the royalwould >> um, but looking ahead. >> is i'd like the royal family say is i'd like the royal family to be slimmed down. yeah great to be slimmed down. yeah great to have the king and queen. >> prince >> great to have the prince of wales, princess their wales, the princess and their kids wales, the princess and their kid�*not would add. i'd >> not sure i would add. i'd probably add to sort of not allow harry and meghan to be in line for throne all. line for the throne at all. i'd take from adrian take that away from them. adrian gel um , yeah. gel um, yeah. >> mean, the definitely the >> i mean, the definitely the royal family should should not be scrapped. >> it's one of the best things that we that we have in britain . that we that we have in britain. okay. listening to that last comment about the fact that at a certain age, the king or the monarch at the time should, should stand down, they take an oath to the country, their life. okay in the past, if parliament could pass a regency act which would allow the monarch to stand down and the prince of wales to

stand as regent in their stead, but they're still involving the royal family. the royal family is such a great asset to us. >> it is. it is the next to nothing compared to the income of the crown estate, which they hand over at, uh . at their accession. >> their accession? >> their accession? >> well, listen, adrian, we're running out of time . i'm going running out of time. i'm going to have stop you there, to have to stop you there, adrian, running to have to stop you there, adriantime. running to have to stop you there, adriantime. do running to have to stop you there, adriantime. do you running to have to stop you there, adriantime. do you runwhat out of time. do you know what to tell people? they got 30s. tell these people? they got 30s. adrian . adrian be quiet. >> stay quiet. no! we love you , adrian. >> thank you so much, adrian. charleton really into david palm. yeah, and also philip hoy. thank you so much. you've been brilliant voices this year. loads in new year. loads more in the new year. thank new you thank you. happy new year, you guys. thank you. happy new year, you guys . you much. they're guys. thank you so much. they're just let me just so fun. they let me they let like this. they let me talk like this. they punch. all yeah yeah. punch. we all do. yeah yeah. >> it's right. >> yes it's right. >> yes it's right. >> listen moving on. because >> but listen moving on. because in the movies, new year's eve is full of excitement, sparkly outfits and surprise kisses at midnight. in the real world, midnight. but in the real world, new year's eve means one thing. in the new year. and with all of

that, resolutions , rules, that, resolutions, rules, restrictions all that kind restrictions and all that kind of giving us the of stuff. so giving us the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting the gym, cutting out our screen time, all that sort of stuff. ridiculous stuff. uh, them ? uh, can we stick to them? joining me now is monica price health and wellness expert who wrote that monica , where are wrote that monica, where are you? i'll give her five seconds. >> thank you. hello, monica . >> thank you. hello, monica. >> thank you. hello, monica. >> i'm fine, thank you. it's all falling apart at the end. uh, monica, me about monica, talk to me about new year's . should be year's resolutions. should we be doing and what's great and doing them? and what's great and what's them ? what's bad about them? >> well, i think the one good thing about new resolutions is it of it does. actually, this time of yeah it does. actually, this time of year, actually think year, people actually think about to do, be about what they'd like to do, be that, know, become healthier that, you know, become healthier , 90 that, you know, become healthier , go to the or even, you , go to the gym, or even, you know, moving know, thinking about moving places , perhaps, you know, places, perhaps, you know, ending relationship that's ending a relationship that's been toxic or, you know, making new going places . new plans, going places. >> so it's a good time of year to kind of clear your brain and declutter, say . declutter, as i would say. >> the bad thing is >> and i think the bad thing is about often about them is that people often don't because they don't stick to them because they set themselves unrealistic goals, know, particularly goals, you know, particularly

around their this around their health. this time of year . of year. >> um, nana you know it, you'll see these new fad diets. see all these new fad diets. >> this is the one >> you know, this is the one that's make lose that's going to make you lose all weight. and this is the all this weight. and this is the one make you the one that's going to make you the woman thought woman you've never thought you were be. and were ever going to be. and it's a nonsense. a load of nonsense. >> should >> you know what you should do is at what you're is look, look at what you're doing as far as your health is concerned, and make health your priority . you know, that for me, priority. you know, that for me, is key. doesn't matter what you're doing in your life , you you're doing in your life, you have have good health. and by have to have good health. and by having health means having good health means that you into your you have to put food into your body. you have to put food into your body . that's you have to put food into your body. that's going to make you feel as and and as feel as fit and as and as healthy and as energetic as it possibly can. and i think that's really important. rather than just saying to yourself, oh yeah, go on to this yeah, i'm going to go on to this diet, know, i'm try diet, you know, i'm going to try this drink, going this new energy drink, i'm going to things just to do this. those things just often , phase away often just, you know, phase away throughout , you throughout the months of, you know, rest of year. know, of the rest of the year. i think more realistically, you just little goals just set yourself little goals throughout the year throughout the whole of the year and then hopefully, fingers crossed , you stick to it . crossed, you stick to it. >> well, listen, thank you so much. lovely to talk to you.

thank you so much . have you got thank you so much. have you got one? your year's one? what's your new year's resolution, way? resolution, by the way? >> i think, you know, just do something makes happy >> i think, you know, just do sometday. makes happy >> i think, you know, just do sometday. i makes happy >> i think, you know, just do sometday. i think akes happy >> i think, you know, just do sometday. i think that's happy >> i think, you know, just do sometday. i think that's reallyipy every day. i think that's really important for yourself . do important for yourself. do something that makes you happy every . every day. >> listen. thank you so much. lovely that . i don't lovely to hear that. i don't know all looking at. lois is getting getting new >> lois is getting getting new year . year giggles. >> i don't know, she's laughing, but much >> i don't know, she's laughing, butthat. much >> i don't know, she's laughing, butthat. well, much >> i don't know, she's laughing, butthat. well, i've|uch >> i don't know, she's laughing, butthat. well, i've got for that. listen. well, i've got to you all, it has been to say to you all, it has been a busy for gb news. in busy old year for gb news. in fact, it feels like we've been for here decades, not just two and a years now. this year and a half years now. this year has white knuckle has been another white knuckle ride. an incredible time for news 2023. pretty much started with prince harry and the release of spare , as it became release of spare, as it became known on south park. it may have sold well, but at what cost? i guess the prince and his wife were . were. >> you want privacy? >> you want privacy? >> we want privacy. >> we want privacy. >> you've lived a life with the royal family. you've had everything handed to you. but you has hard you say your life has been hard and now you've written all about it. book, where? it. in your new book, where? yes, that's right, friend . you

yes, that's right, friend. you see, my wife and i are totally like, you should write book like, you should write a book because stupid because your family, like stupid and journalists and then saw like journalists that was the coronation of king charles, which we covered on gb news. >> will you solemnly promise and swear to govern the peoples of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, and your other realms, and the territories to any of them belonging or pertaining , belonging or pertaining, according to their respect of laws and customs ? laws and customs? >> i solemnly promise so to do . >> i solemnly promise so to do. >> i solemnly promise so to do. >> gb news presented nigel farage was de—banking from coutts for allegedly not having enough funds , but it turned out enough funds, but it turned out that it was because of his political views. dame alison rose was forced to resign , and rose was forced to resign, and nigel went on to win an award for his campaign and then into the jungle for 1.5 million, reportedly , he came third, reportedly, he came third, igniting a whole new political generation . boris johnson generation. boris johnson resigned this year as an mp after being hounded out of

politics by his enemies . but one politics by his enemies. but one man's junk is another man's treasure. he'll be on tv news in the new year. i shall look forward to that. but it's not just uk news that we've covered global events that affect us here in the as the here in the uk as well. the israel hamas war, which began on october 7 and is still raging as bombs pound both gaza and israel. we sent our team out to bnng israel. we sent our team out to bring you those updates . we've bring you those updates. we've disrupted the news landscape . disrupted the news landscape. >> you know, i have to say, i think the complaints have piled up against gb news. i think there is a delicate and important broadcast ecology in this country. i think , you know, this country. i think, you know, gb news is trying to bust that ecology and frankly , what ofcom ecology and frankly, what ofcom should do is shut it down like it shut down. rt right now and our competition have exposed their complacency . their complacency. >> really well. >> really well. >> we couldn't have done any of this without your support. so

thank you for watching. thank you for being loyal. let's shake it up again in 2024. there's more than one voice. there's more than one voice. there's more than one opinion from net zero diversity and inclusion to mass immigration. we're not afraid to challenge the narrative and ask difficult questions . that's why some of questions. that's why some of them won't dare appear on this show. but there's nowhere to hide. gb news is here to stay, so thank you . but before we go, so thank you. but before we go, earlier in the show, i had a pull up asking you whether we should scrap the royal family and currently, 76% of you think that we shouldn't scrap it , and currently, 76% of you think that we shouldn't scrap it, and 24% of you say that we should . 24% of you say that we should. well, listen, i've got to say a huge thank you to my panel. the fabulous lois perry. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and also to the fabulous matthew laza. >> thank you very much and happy new year to you and everybody at home. >> and i'm going ask you, >> and i'm going to ask you, lois, year's resolution. >> well, um, i, i see that the landscape is wide open. the political landscape. and i might be tempted to stand this

be being tempted to stand this year for parliament in in the county of essex , where i'm from, county of essex, where i'm from, really ? yes. really. what party? really? yes. really. what party? no no. ah. i'll tell you afterwards, but not your new year's resolve. that's my new year's resolve. that's my new year's resolve. >> mine is never to cough on live no, you've got live tv again. no, you've got a better than that. better one than that. >> being more positive better one than that. >> you're ng more positive better one than that. >> you're very ore positive better one than that. >> you're very positive. ve person, you're very positive. >> you throw compliments out like this. >> you throw compliments out likelthis. he's lovely , you know >> i know he's lovely, you know that, is that? >> yeah. i just, you know, it'd just be positive camera just be more positive off camera as well as. >> is it , matthew? >> what is it, matthew? >> what is it, matthew? >> you're lovely in >> oh, you're lovely in the green you're just. green room too. you're just. you're the time. you're just lovely all the time. >> to blend into the >> i'm not to blend into the tree. >> ? worry- >> don't worry. >> don't worry. >> be gone. >> don't worry. >> i'm be gone. >> don't worry. >> i'm amazed gone. >> don't worry. >> i'm amazed gon(24% people >> i'm amazed that 24% of people think know, i think they're all, you know, i thought actually. thought the poll was actually. that's all polls we've that's of all the polls we've done that's the done together. nana. that's the one that's the result shock one that's the result of shock me, yeah one that's the result of shock me well, yeah one that's the result of shock me well, i'm yeah one that's the result of shock me well, i'm yea surprised >> well, i'm not surprised i wasn't viewers wasn't shocked. gb news viewers are quite fabulous. listen, i've got again , thank you so got to say again, thank you so much my brilliant panel. the much to my brilliant panel. the brilliant and also brilliant lois perry and also the laza. and the fabulous matthew laza. and also a huge thank you to you at for home your company and for watching this. i look forward to

seeing you in new year next seeing you in the new year next week. saturday, same time, same place. year! place. happy new year! a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of whether on . gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast . latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell, looking ahead to the first day of 2024. and for most of us we will see some further rain. but there will be some sunshine on offer. back to the here and now. we still have this area of low pressure dominating the uk. note the tightly packed isobars across the south, indicating some fairly blustery conditions we fairly blustery conditions as we see at 2023. and for most of us, as we approach midnight, really it's going to be of clear it's going to be a mix of clear spells showers . it spells and scattered showers. it may turn drier for may briefly turn drier for a time for the bells across parts of scotland , then towards time for the bells across parts of send and , then towards time for the bells across parts of send ofi , then towards time for the bells across parts of send of the then towards time for the bells across parts of send of the nighten towards time for the bells across parts of send of the nighten any rds the end of the night in any clear skies, it will turn fairly chilly, especially in the countryside the north, countryside across the north, where we will a touch of where we will see a touch of frost. you are up early frost. so if you are up early enough on new year's day, there will be some sunshine around, especially across parts of

northern wales and northern ireland into wales and into but but we into the midlands. but but we see this next area of cloud and rain coming in from the southwest , and that will spread southwest, and that will spread its way slowly northwards as we go through course the go through the course of the day. of the sunshine day. so the best of the sunshine come we'll come the afternoon we'll be across but here still across the north, but here still watch for few showers , as watch out for a few showers, as temperatures in north range temperatures in the north range in 5 to 7 degrees, in between 5 to 7 degrees, potentially up to 10 to 11 across the south, and then on to tuesday. a fairly wet day for a lot of us, especially across the south. some wet and windy weather potentially developing here. so we are keeping a close eye on things and then really heading into wednesday and thursday, the weather stays unsettled many parts of the unsettled for many parts of the country. temperatures just gradually cooling down that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

on playing it later . all of that on playing it later. all of that comes after the . news. comes after the. news. >> good evening. it's 6:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the queen of denmark has shocked the nation , has shocked the nation, announcing in her new year's message that she'll vacate the throne. queen margaret ii has reigned for more than half a century . she made the century. she made the announcement on live television moments ago. she is due to step down on the 14th of january, exactly 52 years after she took the throne in 1972. she'll be succeeded by her son, crown prince frederik rishi sunak.

struck an optimistic tone