two houthi rebels attacking ships in the red sea. should the uk be getting involved in the middle east, though, and reform uk are going on the attack and they now have labour in their sights, could labour lose the next election due to a lack of immigration policy and a simple question tonight, are we being pred question tonight, are we being ripped off.7 ofgem have raised the energy price cap up to £1,928. what on earth is going on.7 meanwhile oil companies are making billions of profit and has sadiq khan had a mini ego trip .7 another one i know his trip? another one i know his mayoral message in the sky on new year's eve has caused a bit of a backlash, and that's

putting it mildly. of a backlash, and that's putting it mildly . that's all putting it mildly. that's all coming up in the next hour with a cracking panel who agree on nothing . but first, let's get nothing. but first, let's get the latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thank you . dawn neesom sophia >> thank you. dawn neesom sophia wenzler in the gb news room. a man has died afterjapan was hit by several earthquakes resulting in evacuations and tsunami warnings . emergency services warnings. emergency services have been responding to multiple fires and up to 30 collapsed buildings after a 7.6 magnitude magnitude quake hit the centre of the country . the man who magnitude quake hit the centre of the country. the man who died was caught up in a building collapse in the ishikawa region , collapse in the ishikawa region, and a government spokesperson says more people have been trapped beneath the rubble . trapped beneath the rubble. >> as of today, at 6 pm. local time , there have been numerous time, there have been numerous calls to the emergency services

and we have confirmed several incidents of collapsed homes following the earlier earthquake. we will continue to make all efforts to gather information in order to identify all injured persons. the specific details are currently unclear, but we have received reports of six individuals trapped by collapsed buildings in ishikawa prefecture . we do in ishikawa prefecture. we do not have information on whether these injuries are related to these injuries are related to the tsunami , but the details are the tsunami, but the details are currently being confirmed . tens currently being confirmed. tens of thousands of people have been left without power and evacuation orders remain in place for coastal areas , place for coastal areas, although all tsunami warnings issued earlier today have been downgraded to an advisory . downgraded to an advisory. >> three smaller tsunami waves have hit the coastline, but no damage has reported from damage has been reported from nuclear power plants along the sea japan . an official from sea of japan. an official from the country's meteorological agency says more earthquakes are expected . a teenage boy who's expected. a teenage boy who's died after being stabbed at new year's eve in london has been named as harry pitman . the 16

named as harry pitman. the 16 year old was announced was pronounced dead shortly before midnight in primrose hill, a popular viewpoint where families had gathered to watch the fireworks . a male has been fireworks. a male has been arrested on suspicion of murder and is in police custody. officers have said primrose hill was particularly busy at the time of the incident . a woman time of the incident. a woman accused of murdering two of her children in the united states has appeared in a british court. kimberly sinclar's, nine year old daughter and seven year old son were found dead in a residential property in colorado along with her 11 year old daughter, who was injured but alive. daughter, who was injured but auve.the daughter, who was injured but alive. the woman initially collaborated with the investigation , but later investigation, but later reportedly disappeared and an arrest warrant was issued for murder charges. escaped the murder charges. she escaped the uk and was apprehended by the national crime agency in west london. barons osmans husband says their family has been treated like a punchbag and hung out to dry. doug barrowman says it suits the agenda of the government to scapegoat him and his wife . they're being

his wife. they're being investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. lady mones admitted she lied when denying connections to medpro, which made profits of £60 million. labour called for lady mone to be expelled from the house of lords. the government says it won't comment on ongoing legal case. almost 30,000 migrants crossed the channel to britain in small boats last year. that's down by almost a third on the number of crossings from 2022, although it's the second largest total since numbers were first published six years ago. no attempts to cross the channel have taken place since mid—december, either because of bad weather. average household energy bills will now be almost £100 more expensive. give the energy regulator has increased its price cap by 5% in response to rising wholesale prices . to rising wholesale prices. households are urged to submit metre readings to their supplier as quickly as possible to ensure they are charged correctly . they are charged correctly. ofgem says suppliers must identify why and help those who are struggling with their bills.

thousands gathered on the streets of central london today to ring in the new year, with. an array kwarteng can wait for me . the one and only pop singer me. the one and only pop singer chesney hawkes greeted spectators along the two mile route with dancers and brass bands. families even witnessed a brief invasion open gangnam style . style. >> wo wo wo wo . >> wo wo wo wo. >> the 2024 parade, which started in 1987, marched from green park to the palace of westminster , where a 20 foot westminster, where a 20 foot high balloon police officer was also bobbing along the route, making sure all was in order. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car , on your digital tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to dawn.

>> thank you very much. sophia. welcome to dewbs& co with me. dawn neesom am joining me until seven is my brilliant panel tonight who have already started kicking off outside . you're not kicking off outside. you're not going to believe it. uh, conservative life peer in the house of lords. daniel moylan and political commentator matt stadlen. thank you very much for joining us. i'm sitting in between you. i'm going to be the referee. okay? nice. referee. okay? okay play nice. you i have to say, you look very dapper tonight, daniel. and so do so, um, keep up standards. >> exactly who called whom a pathetic socialist or. >> exactly who called whom a pat well, socialist or. >> exactly who called whom a pat well, we'll st or. >> exactly who called whom a pat well, we'll have to work that >> well, we'll have to work that one out. >> yes. okay. it wasn't me, by the way. i'm i'm not calling anyone any names, but it's all about well. can get about you as well. you can get in with us all about in touch with us all about whatever talking about. whatever we're talking about. vaiews@gbnews.com. very simple. or on twitter at gb news. very very easy indeed. and we want to hear what you've got to say now , hear what you've got to say now, i want to start with a story that i thought was quite scary today, and i wasn't really aware of it. the uk defence secretary

at grant shapps has said the uk will not hesitate to take direct action over cargo ship attacks in the red sea. the us has already sunk boats operated by houthi rebels. with war raging in gaza and the houthis operating in the red sea, should the uk be getting involved though now this is the front page of the telegraph today , and page of the telegraph today, and i was really i wasn't aware of it. i don't know why i wasn't aware of it because, i mean, it sounds it sounds like we should all be aware of it. so basically it's one of our we've got france , the uk and usa have all got warships in the red sea at the moment, and these rebels, who are backed by iran , are are backed by iran, are attacking ships going through the red sea and our warship hms diamond shot down a attack drone in self—defence in december. just a few weeks ago, i didn't eveni just a few weeks ago, i didn't even i wasn't even aware this was happening. and it's the first time our navy has shot down an aerial target in anger in more than 30 years, daniel, i'm going come to you first. i'm going to come to you first. what's going on here? am i right

to i am about to be as nervous as i am about what's going on here? >> well, first of all, we're not. the houthis are from yemen. we're attacking yemen. we're not attacking yemen. we're not country or the not attacking the country or the government the houthis government because the houthis are government yemen . are not the government of yemen. they're that have they're a rebel group that have been waging war there for been waging civil war there for a time . and been very, a long time. and it's been very, very disastrous for the local population . and there's been population. and there's been foreign intervention, but not from britain. there's been foreign intervention in the civil war. but what they're doing now is straightforward piracy . they're just behaving piracy. they're just behaving like pirates. right they're they're seizing. they're attacking , uh, commercial attacking, uh, commercial vehicles, and quite vehicles, unarmed and quite rightly, unarmed. commercial vehicles, uh, commercial vessels , rather going through this through the through those narrow waters , those, um, which are waters, those, um, which are very important lifeline for global trade and prosperity. and the royal navy has a very long tradition going back 200 years or more of protecting the world from pirates and i think it's absolutely right. we should be there now of course, we're only a very small part of a large

american led force, but we are supporting them and we're part we're working with them . and we're working with them. and it's right that we should it's quite right that we should do that. >> i mean, evidently i wasn't aware i don't know why i wasn't aware. maybe christmas, aware. maybe it's christmas, maybe you maybe it's new year, maybe you are of it it's are all aware of it and it's just me thick. but i mean, just me being thick. but i mean, attacks by these rebels have been escalating from three in november 20 december. november to 20 in december. and as you've said, daniel, as you've just said, daniel, they're ships that are they're on cargo ships that are either uk registered, have brits in the cruise carry goods in the cruise or carry goods into uk. i mean, should we into the uk. i mean, should we be involved in military be getting involved in military action though? action here though? surely there's diplomacy route we there's some diplomacy route we can down first? can go down first? >> think you can >> i don't think that you can get involved much diplomacy get involved in much diplomacy with these not with these guys. these are not good guys. >> no, i got the impression they weren't. >> and to be very clear from the outset, they're doing this or they're saying they're doing outset, they're doing this or they becauseg they're doing outset, they're doing this or they because they y're doing outset, they're doing this or they because they support|g outset, they're doing this or theybecause they support hamas. this because they support hamas. yes. and yes. interesting and i hope i haven't wrong haven't got this the wrong way round. the houthi rebels are sunni hamas are shia in sunni and hamas are shia in iraq. is shia as well. iraq. iran is shia as well. again, i hope i haven't got it the wrong way round. and iran is backing these rebels as daniel said, actually, we have been

involved in this terrible civil war in yemen because we've at times, i think, had men in the room involved in the saudi led coalition that has been trying to get on top of these rebels. so the saudi led coalition is on the side of the yemeni government. it's a dirty, dirty civil war. hundreds of thousands of people have been killed. there's been either the risk of or actual famine in yemen. it's a total tragedy. what's happened there. but yes , we should be there. but yes, we should be getting involved because this is a critical trading route where i think something like 12% of global trade goes through. it leads. i think eventually to the suez canal. we all know how important that is strategically for trade. remember the suez crisis that cost a british prime minister his job back in the 19505? minister his job back in the 1950s? so we should be getting involved. but we should also be open minded about the risks of getting involved, because if we attack these rebels , there is in attack these rebels, there is in my mind who are backed by iran.

yeah, yeah, there's both the risk of inflaming tensions between the west and iran . but between the west and iran. but also back here, there's obviously a greater chance of domestic terrorism . domestic terrorism. >> yeah. i mean, daniel, it's obviously you can't talk to as you've described them pirates. you there's no maybe there is no way to get around this situation without taking military action. um but it could all escalate , um but it could all escalate, couldn't it? >> well, we're living in, i think, as matthew says, we're in danger of agreeing on this. um as matthew says, this needs to be seen in the broader picture as well. um, and of course, it is tied into the gaza situation and the war that's going on there between israel and hamas, because, i mean, the attacks have gone up so much in the last month, has activated another one of its players on the board. and there is a risk of escalation. and that's been present right from the beginning, going back to october the 7th. in fact, escalation was

escalation is what hamas was seeking to provoke , i reckon, seeking to provoke, i reckon, when when they undertook when they when they undertook the attacks back in october. so there is a risk of escalation and things are a bit dangerous. but the alternative you just but the alternative is you just you either the vessels will you just either the vessels will stop sailing. that's essentially what's going well. >> are two shipping lines >> there are two shipping lines that are already actually diverting away from diverting the ships away from the area. >> they won't they won't be able to insured, for thing. to get insured, for one thing. so stop sailing so the vessels will stop sailing and that part of global trade will come to all because will come to an end, all because of a handful of rebels, um, with some drones that happen to some toy drones that happen to be loaded up with armaments be loaded up with with armaments and toy drones. but i mean and not toy drones. but i mean small we give in to small drones. if we give in to that that happen, then i that and let that happen, then i think we're we're really think we're we're sunk. really >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's a massive if it happens there, i think grant shapps the defence secretary's argument would be, well, it can happen in the south china sea. >> this what i was going to >> this is what i was going to say. absolutely. because if we don't anything, don't get don't do anything, don't get involved, what message involved, then what message is it sending to , say, and it sending to, say, china and the south being no the south china sea being no doubt that while these attacks by rebels are escalate

by the rebels are escalate outing, it risks global prices and we're already in a cost of living crisis. >> i think the wider geopolitical context is really important and iran is involved in this massive proxy war with saudi arabia, sunni, saudi arabia, shia iran in and they don't go head to head. but what they do is they they're fighting it out on different battlefield sides and the main battlefield is yemen. but iran has these sort of toy soldiers. it positions around the place. they've got them in hezbollah in southern lebanon, which is a big risk to israel. they've got them in the form of the houthi rebels and elsewhere. it make no mistake , iran is a massive mistake, iran is a massive threat . threat. >> so should we just region so should we stop tiptoeing around all this and then just do something about the problem that is iran ? is iran? >> well, we've tried doing something about the problem that is iran . first of all, by is iran. first of all, by narrowly defining the problem, which is to say we don't want them to have nuclear weapons .

them to have nuclear weapons. and secondly, by entering a regime of punitive regime of sanctions, alternating with the release of those sanctions, if they stop doing their nuclear weapons program . and we've had weapons program. and we've had different approaches, therefore , different approaches, therefore, from the obama administration, which was more let's do a deal and they won't get they'll give up their nuclear weapons or their program to nuclear their program to achieve nuclear weapons. think they've weapons. we don't think they've got nuclear weapons yet, but they've got program for they've got a program for developing fact that we developing the fact that we don't is slightly worrying. don't know is slightly worrying. well, do know, well, we probably do know, i think, but not with absolute certainty. i think that's the difficulty these difficulty with any of these countries. so it seems they haven't nuclear weapons haven't got the nuclear weapons yet, have program for yet, but they have a program for getting and they'd give getting them and they'd give that of course, you that up. and then of course, you had different approach with had a different approach with trump. now with, trump. um, and, and now with, with biden. so people don't with biden. and so people don't know iran. the truth with biden. and so people don't krthat iran. the truth with biden. and so people don't krthat the iran. the truth with biden. and so people don't krthat the iranian iran. the truth with biden. and so people don't krthat the iranian people |e truth with biden. and so people don't krthat the iranian people , truth with biden. and so people don't krthat the iranian people , i ruth is that the iranian people, i think, are going to have to deal themselves ultimately with a government which clearly many of them find irksome, and some of them find irksome, and some of them actually completely rebarbative . they have a very rebarbative. they have a very young population in iran , which

young population in iran, which has no recollection of the revolution that got rid of them. >> i was going to say. yeah, absolutely. yeah. >> and they're living they're living conditions which many >> and they're living they're livthem, conditions which many >> and they're living they're livthem, as1ditions which many >> and they're living they're livthem, as1ditionfind, ch many >> and they're living they're livthem, as1ditionfind, um,|any of them, as i say, find, um, pretty irksome. and they're not very about but it's very happy about it, but it's a very happy about it, but it's a very repressive regime and very vicious if it takes against you. and we know how treats its and we know how it treats its own people. >> israel feels very >> israel also feels very, very threatened by iran . threatened by iran. >> and this is understandable . ali. >> so it's a big thing on netanyahu's mind. not that i'm remotely a fan of netanya . so remotely a fan of netanya. so the middle east, since october the middle east, since october the 7th has been a tinderbox. and what we saw was massive american shuttle diplomacy . he american shuttle diplomacy. he went, you saw a president of the united states visit israel dunng united states visit israel during war. his secretary of state of course, blinken there several visits. >> hasn't blinken made lots and lots of visits, and they were desperate , i think, to make sure desperate, i think, to make sure that this didn't escalate into a war between another war between israel and lebanon . israel and lebanon. >> you remember the devastation of war, but how to deal

of 2006 war, but how to deal with iran as daniel says, the western approach does seem to have been mixed and confused . have been mixed and confused. it's a very repressive regime and we shouldn't forget, by the way, that saudi arabia is a very repressive regime as well. but these are two behemoths smashing at each other, and you've got israel there in the mix. so it is a highly inflammatory situation. >> it's horrible , isn't it? >> it's horrible, isn't it? well, i don't know what the answer is, but going on, i just want a slight historical note. >> been on for >> it's been going on for thousands of years. >> oh yes, of course there's been. >> there's been a war. it used to be between saudi arabia. arabia didn't have any weight in the anyone even the world. anyone didn't even nofice the world. anyone didn't even notice until discovered notice it until it discovered oil . oil. notice it until it discovered oil. oil. yeah, but so it oil. oil. yeah, but but so it used be between egypt and the used to be between egypt and the persians, persians and the iranians of today. they were iranians of today. and they were always fighting over middle always fighting over the middle east or what we call the middle east. and over mesopotamia and palestine and whatever we call them now, which we call them nowadays, you know, and those areas they've been fighting over them at least 2000 years. them for at least 2000 years. okay >> we're not going to solve it

in 15 minutes tonight, are we? unfortunately right. and you've agreed something . we at agreed on something. we have at least you can least i found something you can agree on. >> really important >> but the really important thing i think, thing for viewers, i think, is that conflict involves our that this conflict involves our cost of living . cost of living. >> yes it does. well, absolutely . everything involves our cost of living at the moment. um talking of which, a seamless link. labour lose link. could labour actually lose the election if they don't the next election if they don't spell out their immigration plan? does keir starmer even have one? and will he tell us what it is if he does? um, don't go anywhere. lots more coming up

your messages coming in on the debate. we've just had about what's going on in the red sea and should we get involved, military wise? david uh, good evening. says, we ever evening. david says, do we ever learn involved with learn getting involved with middle keep middle east wars? we must keep out always end up out because we always end up with consequences. thought out because we always end up with wouldequences. thought out because we always end up with would feelnces. thought out because we always end up with would feel like thought out because we always end up with would feel like that. ught people would feel like that. i mean, even though we've explained that, what message do we we get we send out? we don't get involved, certainly to china. um, meanwhile, mark, you agree with we shouldn't um, meanwhile, mark, you agree witiinvolved we shouldn't um, meanwhile, mark, you agree witiinvolved in we shouldn't um, meanwhile, mark, you agree witiinvolved in this. we shouldn't um, meanwhile, mark, you agree witiinvolved in this. we, shouldn't um, meanwhile, mark, you agree witiinvolved in this. we, therldn't get involved in this. we, the british public did not vote for this supplying this along with supplying arms to ukraine. >> did vote for british >> we did vote for british interests to be protected, though. there's no doubt that our interests are being negatively impacted. >> absolute ali and it >> there's absolute ali and it will affect us all personally because of that. >> and they talk about >> and when they talk about being affected by when being affected by the when dave talks being affected by talks about being affected by the consequences, the idea is if we get involved in this we don't get involved in this modest the modest way, supporting the americans they'll leave us americans that they'll leave us alone. >> that's not going to happen, alone. >:it?1at's not going to happen, alone. >:it? no,y not going to happen, alone. >:it? no, no.: going to happen, alone. >:it? no, no. if oing to happen, alone. >:it? no, no. if you to happen, alone. >:it? no, no. if you don't ppen, is it? no, no. if you don't stand up to bullies, we know what happens. yeah. doing nothing option in this

nothing is not an option in this case, is it? right. okay. let's move on. um, the leader of reform, richard tice, has said that are a smoking that the tories are a smoking wreck that their attention wreck and that their attention will turn to labour and lack of an immigration policy. so um, could this be labour's achilles heel? one of many, some might think at the next general election . now, keir starmer did election. now, keir starmer did actually come up with some sort of game plan on immigration the other day. something about offshore processing but didn't quite explain what shore he was talking about being off or who was going to do the processing. indeed.so was going to do the processing. indeed. so it's come to you first on on this one. matthew um, our labour under keir starmer in trouble from a reform and b because of their immigration policy, very interesting way to frame the question. >> i'll be absolutely clear on this. >> go on. be absolutely clear, matthew. that's what we want. >> the idea that labour is going to lose this election on immigration when the tories and the eyes of voters have failed again and again on immigration is it's is absurd. and it's the conservatives and rishi sunak

whose policies simply haven't worked . and they have a policy . worked. and they have a policy. they you say they have a policy, they have a policy that doesn't work . that is expensive. we've work. that is expensive. we've had more more home secretaries go to rwanda than asylum . go to rwanda than asylum. >> it's a standing joke. >> it's a standing joke. >> everyone understands , even if >> everyone understands, even if there might be broad support for there might be broad support for the idea of it. and i don't support it on ethical grounds . support it on ethical grounds. no one supports it in terms of its competence because it is an in competent legal, leaky policy and it is a flagship policy that is seen to fail again and again. i think it's the conservatives who are under threat from reform . um, i suspect that quite a few people who are fed up with this government just as richard tice is, and nigel farage are, want to punish the tories. and they probably broadly see labour and the conservatives as similar and the conservatives as similar and the electoral threat is to the right. it's not to starmer. >> well, this is what jon

cruddas is a labour grandee has come out and said that, you know, people don't know the difference between labour and conservatives days. conservatives these days. richard same richard tice has said the same thing. politically, those two thing. so politically, those two people but they people are poles apart, but they are saying that starmer and are both saying that starmer and sunak pretty much on the sunak are pretty much on the same hymn sheet, with most of their mean, do their policies. i mean, do labour have an immigration policy? >> daniel ? policy? >> daniel? well, not policy? >> daniel ? well, not that policy? >> daniel? well, not that i'm aware of. i mean , keir starmer aware of. i mean, keir starmer did a new year message in which he said we have a plan. yes we have plan not just for have a plan not just for immigration. we have a plan that's going to solve all our problems there'll be cost problems and there'll be no cost to no downside to it. but he to it. no downside to it. but he hasn't the plan is hasn't said what the plan is now. all right. give him now. okay. all right. give him cut some slack. he wouldn't cut him some slack. he wouldn't want do that too far ahead of want to do that too far ahead of a general election. but what's going really going to be really, really interesting? won't just interesting? and it won't just be this. it be reform looking at this. it will press generally is will be the press generally is that going to be the that this is going to be the first election decades where first election in decades where both all parties, but both parties all parties, but both parties all parties, but both main parties will to both main parties will have to be clear what their be very clear what their immigration how immigration policies are and how they deliver with no they can deliver them with no excuse that it's all down to we can't do it because the

can't do it because of the european labour is european union and labour is going be scrutinised very, going to be scrutinised very, very heavily about that. and they to be if they want they have got to be if they want to got be to win, they have got to be credible. keir starmer has credible. and keir starmer has one sorry rishi sunak one chance. sorry rishi sunak has one chance left to rescue this and make it a vote winner. and that is to get the legislation through in the next few weeks. next couple of months, the rwanda legislation, the legislation the rwanda legislation that will allow shipping allow him to start shipping people rwanda and see a fall people to rwanda and see a fall in the in the number of boats. it's a nonsense. arriving guys. and look, i didn't and look, matthew, i didn't interrupt got one interrupt you. and he's got one chance to get this right. he may not it right. he may not get not get it right. he may not get this legislation through. but if he through and it he does get it through and it starts deliver, labour starts to deliver, then labour is to be seriously on the is going to be seriously on the back foot matthew's back foot because matthew's complained that the government has failed deliver the has failed to deliver the policy, is true so far policy, which has is true so far that that complaint have that that complaint will have been they've been been taken away. they've been taken table that the taken off the table so that the terms of the debate, the terms of will have will of trade, will have to, will change very rapidly does change very rapidly if he does get through. get that through. >> could i just respond to >> okay. could i just respond to that? listen, first of all, on on conservatives, policy

on the conservatives, the policy won't work. partly because even if it gets through the courts , if it gets through the courts, even if a flight does eventually take off before the election , i take off before the election, i think it's highly unlikely one will take off before may. if there's a spring election, and i think it's unlikely one will take off before the autumn, even if it does tiny numbers relatively tiny, tiny numbers act a deterrent. tiny act as a deterrent. but tiny numbers don't think it will numbers i don't think it will act as much. that's the act as much. well, that's the whole purpose of it is. tiny numbers in rwanda, numbers will end up in rwanda, so he is a hostage to his own fortune , he said. the fortune, he said. at the beginning of last year, didn't fortune, he said. at the beginnini of last year, didn't fortune, he said. at the beginnini keepst year, didn't fortune, he said. at the beginnini keep making didn't fortune, he said. at the beginnini keep making thist fortune, he said. at the beginnini keep making this point he? and i keep making this point because an important one. because it's an important one. he would stop the boats he said he would stop the boats by the end of 2023, and he didn't. but they are down numbers are down. that's what he said. across the boats said. numbers across the boats and two thirds are still coming over on labour. think is over on labour. i think this is really interesting and important. is absolutely not important. it is absolutely not the case that labour are soft on immigration or indeed on asylum. yes, we need a certain amount of immigration. we desperately need it in health and social care. yes, we should take a number of

asylum seekers. of course we should. so we can hold our heads up high. but the idea that if yvette cooper is some sort of softie, the idea that david blunkett, when he was home secretary, softie these secretary, was a softie on these things absolute nonsense . and things is absolute nonsense. and we've recently that the we've learned recently that the new labour government was thinking, , talking thinking, considering, talking about of offshoring about the idea of offshoring asylum claims when they were in power. so it's a myth that labour are going to be soft. i think they will. tony blair did. i they will be tough, i think they will be tough, actually. and above all, i hope and i can't guarantee it. but i hope they will be competent or more competent than this government. >> very interesting that >> it's very interesting that keir starmer mean , you know, keir starmer i mean, you know, he's actually doing as well he's not actually doing as well as he should be. it's constantly had open goal with the way had an open goal with the way the conservatives have messed things up. no offence. i know you're a tory peer, but the you're a tory peer, but with the way but it's still there are way the but it's still there are still so many constituencies around are around the country that are undecided, which be good undecided, which must be good news the tories as well. news for the tories as well. >> don't know if it's quite as >> i don't know if it's quite as good news as it could be, and i

think keir starmer is putting in a competent performance as leader of the labour party . i leader of the labour party. i think there's really interesting question whether he's taking the labour party as whole with him labour party as a whole with him is a separate story. yes a separate question, but i think he's doing a reasonably competent job. the difficulty is that he remains a wooden and unattractive figure who hasn't actually inspired people . he actually inspired people. he hasn't inspired the emotional affection of people, or that attraction which which other characters have been able to do and that is weighing to some extent against him. as to matthew's point about labour not being soft on immigration. ian, that may be true. that may turn out to be true. but until we see that plan, we don't know. and have the chance to scrutinise how it's going to work. it's just, you know, it's just matthew's opinion. >> starmer point. i think >> starmer point. dawn, i think it's really interesting point it's a really interesting point that daniel makes mean, that daniel makes and i mean, does he inspire us? keir starmer i'm broadly on the left. i'd like to see a labour government. i couldn't vote for labour under

jeremy corbyn. no, he doesn't inspire me. but after many inspire me. but after how many prime had prime ministers have we had since the election alone? since the last election alone? three. the country crying out three. the country is crying out for someone who's a bit dull and rather competent, but also someone who has the courage on the gb news political poll we had end of year poll, the three former prime minister was that people would like to see back in number 10, margaret thatcher was number one, winston churchill was number two, and tony blair was number three. >> the thing they all had in >> and the thing they all had in common the courage of their common was the courage of their convictions optimistic convictions and optimistic message . message. >> it's very interesting poll , >> it's a very interesting poll, and i it was done in and i think it was done in november of about 10,000 people, and to be constituency and it seemed to be constituency by constituency . and there's by constituency. and there's been or some idea that been some talk or some idea that rishi sunak to run this rishi sunak wanted to run this election popularity election as a popularity contest, a of almost contest, as a sort of almost like a presidential . exactly. like a presidential. exactly. yeah. but what we found is that starmer ahead of sunak, starmer is ahead of sunak, whether you call him popular or not. it's a different question. but he is ahead sunak in 390 but he is ahead of sunak in 390 constituencies and sunak is aheadin constituencies and sunak is ahead in about 29. but there are

200 so much, 238 still undecided. >> i mean, you would have thought that if tories were doing such a bad job that everyone would go, well , 390 everyone would go, well, 390 compared to 29 is massive , but compared to 29 is massive, but there are 238 who still are not convinced by what keir starmer needs to do more. >> he needs to do more. we need to know more about where he's coming from. i would just say this, i think he will find it easier than conservative prime ministers to deal with europe, because they know that he was coming from a european, because he was conspiring with them. >> i wouldn't against the country. >> he was popping over to brussels the time to have brussels the whole time to have secret deals with them, secret talks. point i'm making, talks. the point i'm making, let's when point let's not revisit when the point is no. >> that's what he was doing. >> but that's what he was doing. >> but that's what he was doing. >> one a time, one at a time. >> one at a time, one at a time. >> he was doing. that's why they like him. >> practical real world >> the practical real world effect. whether you for effect. whether you voted for brexit did or brexit as, as daniel did or whether voted for remain as whether you voted for remain as i that debate is i did, that that debate is largely the point i'm largely done. the point i'm making on a personal making is on a personal chemistry level, i think starmer

has a better chance of getting concessions from the french on things like small boat crossings. >> why? why do you think that sunak. >> because he comes from a europhile background in a way that sunak certainly doesn't. and johnson didn't. >> implying , and johnson didn't. >> implying, daniel, that >> so implying, daniel, that getting back into bed with europe again is going to help our immigration problem. yeah i don't think the french have any interest in dealing. >> i think one of the most amusing things i'm looking forward to is if labour win is keir starmer turning up in brussels with lots of trumpets . brussels with lots of trumpets. he'd all be well prepared and saying, look, ursula , he'll say saying, look, ursula, he'll say it's me, it's keir , your old it's me, it's keir, your old mate, your co—conspirator . how mate, your co—conspirator. how are you doing? you know, we i used to be round here the whole time working with you against britain and. and it's me. i'm back. britain and. and it's me. i'm back . you're going to give me back. you're going to give me lots of concessions and find out that he's getting no more out of the european union, because of their very legalistic approach. then then than else is then then than anybody else is going to get. it's a fantasy to

think that there's somebody out there who's willing to be nice to the european union, who to in the european union, who wants nice to britain just wants to be nice to britain just because it's keir starmer in charge, absolute fantasy. and he'll his tail he'll come back with his tail between legs . between his legs. >> i'm sitting in the gb news studio about future studio talking about the future prime minister this country, prime minister of this country, conspiring against british interests. that's he was. interests. that's what he was. this he was this is that's what he was doing. he was working against the government it's like the british government it's like cold potatoes. no, it's not toxic and it's nonsense . the toxic and it's nonsense. the idea that starmer was conspiring, it's not about brexit. it's utter rubbish. >> it's all very well saying the brexit vote is in the past. that's decided which i agree with. that is the case. but this isn't what remark not isn't what my remark is not about brexit. remark is about about brexit. my remark is about the behaviour of the disgraceful behaviour of a small number of members of parliament, mostly from the labour of them. labour party. not all of them. a small of members of small number of members of parliament to parliament who were working to undermine their own government's position. consistently with a view getting the vote view to getting the vote reversed. was the leader reversed. and he was the leader of that. labour side, he of that. on the labour side, he was absolutely in the forefront of that . voters, and there are

of that. i voters, and there are voters who forgive voters who will never forgive him that . you may not be. him for that. you may not be. i'm not accusing one at a time, one at a time. >> we're running out of time quickly, i was not quickly, matthew, i was not someone who thought that we should that vote. someone who thought that we sho i ld that vote. someone who thought that we shoi thought that vote. someone who thought that we shoi thought it at vote. someone who thought that we shoi thought it would. someone who thought that we shoi thought it would be >> i thought it would be disastrous this country disastrous for this country and disastrous for this country and disastrous in disastrous for their faith in democracy. me right. but the idea starmer was conspiring democracy. me right. but the idea british 1er was conspiring democracy. me right. but the idea british interestsonspiring democracy. me right. but the idea british interests isspiring against british interests is simply untrue. that's how people saw many saw it at the time, and many of them still that way. them still see it that way. >> that is one of the >> and that is one of the reasons that he's not as popular as he might be. >> oh, and actually, just quickly one off, quickly to finish this one off, young people aged 18 to think young people aged 18 to 25 think jeremy corbyn be a better jeremy corbyn will be a better leader starmer. leader than keir starmer. and they future, obviously. they are the future, obviously. thank you much. well that thank you very much. well that got feisty, didn't it? right right. move on and right. uh, now we move on and there's still more of this to come. are brilliant. come. these two are brilliant. only energy price cap has only the energy price cap has risen a simple risen to £1,928. it's a simple question we're asking are we being ripped off? stay tuned. put the kettle on. but don't go too far

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gb news radio. >> this is dewbs & co with me >> this is dewbs& co with me dawn neesom. welcome back. joining me until seven. my panel brilliant panel. our very feisty conservative life here in the house of lords. daniel moylan and political commentator matt stadlen. and of course you. you're the important people. loads of messages coming in. thank much. in thank you so much. in particular, carla. hi, carla. good evening . um, please tell good evening. um, please tell dawn her teal blazer is dawn that her teal blazer is absolutely gorgeous classy . absolutely gorgeous and classy. i it.thank absolutely gorgeous and classy. i it. thank you very much. i love it. thank you very much. got matching highlighter as got us matching highlighter as well, carla well, which is a bit sad. carla i daniel has a matching i guess daniel has a matching orange. i guess daniel has a matching oraiise. a suit rim of your >> is it a suit rim of your suitcase with your orange tie? >> well, the lining have two >> well, the lining i have two lining the jacket. lining of the jacket. >> are teamed up purely by >> we are teamed up purely by chance team orange. daniel chance for team orange. daniel is daniel also has is and daniel also has a matching scarf and gloves outside, seen and outside, which i've seen and matthew, what do you matthew, you know what do you call him earlier? >> matthew for a socialist is extremely well dressed. yeah. first of all, i've never seen him in a tie. >> secondly, it's an air mass tie. the most expensive. why? >> this is. because i'm

>> this is. it's because i'm married a tory. and married to a tory. and she dresses and dresses you. dresses me and she dresses you. >> well she's she's well, >> right? well she's she's well, there you go. >> that proves it. right. and we're going back red we're going back to the red sea debate earlier on. debate we're having earlier on. we can shoot down pirates with drones, we return drones, but we can't return a rubber dinghy. that's a very fair isn't it? and on fair point, isn't it? and on immigration labour immigration and the labour party, the party, alan. good evening. the labour party has no plan to stop the boats . and chris says the the boats. and chris says the tories have failed on immigrants because everything they have tried to do is stop by lawyers and it has to be said, the labour probably. right. labour party probably. right. okay. move on okay. shall we move on to something? oh it's it's something? oh no it's not, it's not more exciting. it's more depressing, to be honest with you. gonna have a you. but we're gonna have a great ofgem. great debate about ofgem. have implemented increase implemented a 5% increase in the price cap starting today, at the 1st january, coldest part 1st of january, the coldest part of year. it's now £1,928 in of the year. it's now £1,928 in a cost of living crisis. but with so many people struggling to their bills and oil to pay their bills and oil companies making record profits, is it really necessary? or are energy companies just being greedy and profiteering from our misery? what do you reckon to

this one, daniel? well first of all, the fact that it's a cap tells you that if you didn't have the cap, the prices would be higher than they are with the cap. >> otherwise it's totally pointless having a cap. so the cap in itself is actually protecting people to some extent from the full force of market pnces. from the full force of market prices . and so to that extent, prices. and so to that extent, although it's going up by 5, it is still offering a degree of protection . so i don't see how protection. so i don't see how you can say you're being ripped off if you're benefiting, benefiting from a from a cap thatis benefiting from a from a cap that is keeping prices down. you might be very angry about how much paying , but i don't much you're paying, but i don't think it you're being think it means you're being pred think it means you're being ripped just on the ripped off. and just on the point about oil companies, there are different oil are different types of oil companies, oil companies, and there are oil companies, and there are oil companies oil, and companies that produce oil, and there are people um, who there are people who, um, who distribute oil. and then there's the company like, you know, you're paying british gas or whatever it is you're paying for your electric city and your your gas supply, which will come from oil . some of gas supply, which will come from

oil. some of it will come from oil. some of it will come from oil in the first place. um, the people who are really making profits out are the profits out of this are the people who who are producing people who are who are producing oil. because that's where oil. oil. because that's where the up. the the price has gone up. the people downstream , um, people further downstream, um, like you know, the british like the, you know, the british gases whatever, not gases and whatever, they're not getting out that getting any benefit out of that particularly. you particularly. so i think you i think you need to be very careful and nuanced when you talk , you know, that the talk about, you know, that the energy companies making a fortune this, it's some fortune out of this, it's some do and some don't. >> so, yeah, some of the ones who who are not british, who do who are not british, they're companies like, you know, the russians, they are the arabians and they're people like that. >> so it's no good us saying we've got to take them down or whatever. we have no power over them. well, the big charge, what they global, the big they want on global, the big five oil companies who start this chain shell, chevron, this chain bp, shell, chevron, exxonmobil and total energies, um, expected reward um, are expected reward investors of more investors with payouts of more than £79 billion for 2023. >> um and ofgem. their reason is to protect to protect consumers. it doesn't feel like they're doing a very good job.

>> i mean, my instinct is it doesn't feel like they're doing a very good job, but they are the regulator, so they should be doing a good job. and am i in a better position than the national regulator to get this right? can't claim to be. but right? i can't claim to be. but go on, have a go. but it's astonishing that the average go on, have a go. but it's astonthe1g that the average go on, have a go. but it's astonthe typical the average go on, have a go. but it's astonthe typical annual rage well, the typical annual household bill will increase from . already £1,134 to 1009. from. already £1,134 to 1009. >> and that's just the average, by the way. i mean, a lot of people are paying a lot more than that. >> £94. and i think few people or many people in this country, a few people can afford that. but many people in this country simply can't afford that rise. i mean, remember, it wasn't that long ago that rishi sunak, i think, when he was chancellor was rebates, wasn't think, when he was chancellor was i rebates, wasn't think, when he was chancellor was i think rebates, wasn't think, when he was chancellor was i think thereebates, wasn't think, when he was chancellor was i think there probablyasn't think, when he was chancellor was i think there probably aret he? i think there probably are some targeted rebates at the moment, but it won't be enough for a lot people. this for a lot of people. this, this cost of living crisis is ongoing and yes, inflation has come down. but don't forget interest rates haven't come down. so people are still really feeling the pinch. i mean, people are

taking, people are acting . we taking, people are acting. we talk about the boats the whole time, but this is what really impacts people's lives. it just take my household right. so i'm relatively i'm relatively well off. this is not a disaster, but it's painful. but this winter we've our blinds we've kept our blinds closed a lot the luckily it's lot of the time. luckily it's been quite mild. >> well, you getting >> well, what you been getting up dawn? sorry up to, dawn? sorry >> not the time, not the place. sorry we have. and the sorry no, but we have. and the reason because our windows reason is because our windows are not very well insulated . are not very well insulated. part of story is everyone part of this story is everyone got angry with insulate got so angry with insulate britain. encouraging britain. and i'm not encouraging lawbreaking. no, no, no. but actually had point on the actually they had a point on the substance it. we need to substance of it. we need to insulate our because they insulate our homes because they are huge amount of are leaking a huge amount of warmth, because our windows aren't, good enough. aren't, aren't good enough. and so when do keep so actually, when you do keep the shut for a while, the blinds shut for a while, which is not because you which is not nice because you want the sunlight coming want to have the sunlight coming in, there's been much in, not that there's been much of it. >> there actually. >> it keeps it warmer inside and we are going to have do we are going to have to do better insulating our homes better at insulating our homes because these prices are unsustainable. just one unsustainable. and just one final does us unsustainable. and just one final to does us unsustainable. and just one final to where does us unsustainable. and just one final to where we s us unsustainable. and just one final to where we startedis unsustainable. and just one final to where we started this back to where we started this program, which what's going program, which is what's going on red sea with the

on in the red sea with the houthi because that houthi rebels. yes, because that sort does impact or can sort of thing does impact or can impact oil prices, and we can feel our pockets. feel it in our pockets. >> yeah. that's i mean, >> yeah. well, that's i mean, ofgem saying the cap had ofgem are saying the cap has had to increase because of what's happening to the oil prices with the middle east the situation in the middle east and involved and obviously russia involved in invading ukraine. um, but i do feel that, you know, why do it now? why why increase the cap now? why why increase the cap now? why why increase the cap now? why not wait ? now? why not wait? >> i think they have to review it every six months. >> it is. >> it is. >> it is. >> i think they change it every four, three, four months. >> is it 3 or 4 months or whatever? >> it's periodically then. >> it's periodically then. >> yes. yeah they do because otherwise if the price cap you know, there is theresa may introduced this price cap. >> ask whether >> now you could ask whether it's idea or not in the it's a good idea or not in the first to be frank, but it first place, to be frank, but it was never to be a really was never meant to be a really serious heavy price like serious heavy price cap. like like macron introduced because the more heavily you bear down upon the price, the more you have to make up the difference from taxpayer money. and we've run out of taxpayer money to do that. run out of taxpayer money to do that . and we have too much debt

that. and we have too much debt already. so was never meant already. so it was never meant to be a really heavy price cap that crashed down the price to make it . it to be make it. so it needs to be reviewed periodic yearly. that's why they're doing it now . and why they're doing it now. and it's not the best time to do it. i but there will always i agree, but there will always be review. know, if you do be a review. you know, if you do it every or 4 months, one of it every 3 or 4 months, one of those reviews will in the those reviews will be in the winter, someone to winter, but someone has to pay. >> ultimately, it's what you're saying, either the saying, and it's either the taxpayer or it's household taxpayer here or it's household with energy more or with their energy bills, more or less, who are the same thing basically. except basically. well, except that would for would make an argument for taxing off more than taxing the better off more than we at the moment. and we are we do at the moment. and we are relatively undertaxed, even though got this huge tax though we've got this huge tax burden, apparently. as burden, apparently. and as a size a as a percentage of size as a as a percentage of gdp. that's i believe. but gdp. that's true, i believe. but compared to some european countries, relatively countries, we are relatively undertaxed. and you had undertaxed. and if you had a brave politician and by the way, i don't think keir starmer is a brave politician. no. if you brave politician. no. but if you had brave politician, you'd had a brave politician, you'd say, if you want, you say, listen, if you want, you don't nothing. you don't get don't get nothing. you don't get anything nothing. you anything for nothing. if you want good public services, us, anything for nothing. if you waif good public services, us, anything for nothing. if you waif goowant)lic services, us, anything for nothing. if you waif goowant cheaperces, us, anything for nothing. if you waif goowant cheaper bills, s, or if you want cheaper bills, someone, somewhere in this

country going to have to put country is going to have to put their their pocket. country is going to have to put the can their pocket. country is going to have to put the can i their pocket. country is going to have to put the can i just their pocket. country is going to have to put the can i just say, pocket. country is going to have to put the can i just say, dawn,t. >> can i just say, dawn, i really welcome the true voice of labour party policy as represented by the well to do socialist voter in london. we're undertaxed . but the solution is undertaxed. but the solution is more tax . that is what you're more tax. that is what you're going to get. tax people like me more. that is what you're going to get. >> what's better? that is what you're going to get. >> do you want people? >> do you want people? >> that is what going to get. >> okay, let me answer that. >> okay, let me answer that. >> if labour people one at a time, gentlemen, we are under taxed. >> remember that phrase. we are undertaxed. you first heard it here. undertaxed. here. i say undertaxed. >> i'm talking about the well—off and those with the broadest shoulders should pay more. otherwise. more. because otherwise. daniel, what for a what you're advocating for is a society where many people watching people watching this programme, people up and down the country who might well be low might very well be on low incomes or not on any income at all, they might be retired, they might pensioners are having might be pensioners are having to extortion. we know what to pay extortion. we know what happens. let me finish the point. having pay point. they're having to pay extortion amounts to heat their homes. if you want to live in a

fairer society, you have to have higher taxes. >> we know what happens when you put up taxes on middle put up taxes on the middle classes. of stop classes. a many of them stop working. part time, they working. they go part time, they go time. that's why one of go part time. that's why one of the reasons we don't have enough doctors is that of them doctors is that many of them have time. have gone part time. >> think? middle class? >> you think? middle class? >> you think? middle class? >> . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> going when >> you're already going on when you over 100,000. >> you're already going on when you not over 100,000. >> you're already going on when you not on ar100,000. >> you're already going on when you not on the 10,000. >> you're already going on when you not on the dole,). >> you're already going on when you not on the dole, not on the >> not on the dole, not on the dole. when you go 100,000 dole. when you go over 100,000 a yean dole. when you go over 100,000 a year, you're paying tax at 62. a lot of people say that's not worth lot of people say that's not worthat's unfortunately , >> that's unfortunately, gentlemen, many of them are gps as i'm loving this as much as i'm loving this debate, it's brilliant. >> to move on. sorry, >> we have to move on. sorry, we're running out of time . we're running out of time. >> we are under taxed. >> we are under taxed. >> new year's eve. happy new yean >> new year's eve. happy new year, way. happy having year, by the way. happy having a lovely monday and enjoying the fireworks in the studio . um, but fireworks in the studio. um, but new year's eve, a time for everyone to come together and ring in the new year. not a time for the mayor of london to show off make it all about him. off and make it all about him. this one's to get more this one's going to get more fireworks as well. you fireworks going as well. see you

soon. welcome back. this is dewbs& co with me. dawn neesom joining me until seven. my panel conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan and political commentator matthew stadlen. now, thank you for all your messages. it's not just about these two, although they try and make it is, but it's about you. all your messages coming in. thank you. do keep coming going do keep them coming up and going back ofgem competition back to the ofgem competition conversation. we're just having back to the ofgem competition con'ofgemyn. we're just having back to the ofgem competition con'ofgem thisie're just having back to the ofgem competition con'ofgem this is'e just having back to the ofgem competition con'ofgem this is'e jusgooding um ofgem this is lee. good evening lee. lee says ofgem is working for the energy companies rather than consumers. it was set they are set up to protect. they are a disgrace and rob says the tory government is being silent on this energy cap increase. i used to think that ofgem was safeguarding energy prices for the any more. not the public. not any more. not a lot of fans in them. >> it's difficult to disagree with that sentiment, isn't it? yeah, absolutely. feel like with that sentiment, isn't it? yea energylutely. feel like with that sentiment, isn't it? yea energy experts, feel like with that sentiment, isn't it? yea energy experts, butel like with that sentiment, isn't it? yea energy experts, but it like with that sentiment, isn't it? yea energy experts, but it feels are energy experts, but it feels like something isn't going quite right. yeah . right. yeah, yeah. >> it feels. any case, should we

move . should we, should we move. should we, should we talk fireworks. already fireworks. yeah you're already providing let's providing fireworks. so let's talk more fireworks. and the mayor the mayor of london, or indeed the mayor of london, or indeed the mayor london presents. that mayor of london presents. that was message that lit up the was the message that lit up the london sky before the new year's eve fireworks show kicked off. was it really necessary? it's new year's eve . did sadiq khan new year's eve. did sadiq khan have to claim ownership over communal celebrations that were paid for by. oh yes, the london taxpayers ? did it leave a bitter taxpayers? did it leave a bitter taste, though , matthew? i must taste, though, matthew? i must admit it did with me. i got a bit fed up with it. so do you reckon i was? >> i was in bed for the first time in my adult life at midnight, because i had to get up early to do some tv, implying that you are actually an adult. >> well, yeah, you but >> well, yeah, you are, but i have since watched these fireworks. >> okay, the fireworks were spec tacular. absolutely tacular. they were absolutely beautiful and brilliant and personally left it personally i would have left it at yeah i'm not someone at that. yeah i'm not someone who gets triggered by messages of inclusivity , i think. of inclusivity, i think. fantastic. a great capital fantastic. we're a great capital city. we should be proud of our city. we should be proud of our city. got some city. yes, we've got some problems they need to

problems and they need to be ironed out, the least. ironed out, to say the least. but we're a wonderful centre for both those live here and both those who live here and people from abroad, so no people coming from abroad, so no problem i think problem with that. did i think it was necessary to for sadiq khan to check himself ? no, khan to name check himself? no, i mean, we've got the mayoral elections coming up in may. >> i think it is, isn't it? >> i think it is, isn't it? >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> no, i bet he'd never thought of that. >> no no no no no never never crossed his mind. never have crossed his mind. never have crossed never crossed his mind. >> um, it is a shameless self—promotion, isn't it? basically self—promotion, isn't it? baswell, i was there watching >> well, i was there watching last night in person because i've never it before, and i've never done it before, and i probably i probably never i've never done it before, and i proiitbly i probably never i've never done it before, and i proiit again. i probably never i've never done it before, and i proiit again. and'obably never i've never done it before, and i proiit again. and they ly never i've never done it before, and i proiit again. and they haveyer did it again. and they have these drones come up and they're amazing, spectacular. then amazing, spectacular. and then all they resolve all of a sudden they resolve into about the mayor into something about the mayor of and of london presents. and there was groan me. was a huge groan from me. i mean, everyone just sort of expected of him. it's very telling. the moment telling. right from the moment he was i was just saying he was mayor, i was just saying in the there's a logo for in the break, there's a logo for the london and it says the mayor of london and it says mayor of london and it was used by ken it was used by boris by ken and it was used by boris andifs by ken and it was used by boris and it's on all the tfl posters and it's on all the tfl posters and things like that. and the

moment khan came in, it moment sadiq khan came in, it was all changed to mayor of london, sadiq khan is the first mayor to himself in his own mayor to put himself in his own logo. else had done that logo. nobody else had done that before. ken nor boris before. neither ken nor boris and because that self—promotion has the whole time, has been there the whole time, every poster is for him an opportunity to . opportunity to. >> because boris johnson never self promoted , promote him. self promoted, promote him. bofis self promoted, promote him. boris mate boris boris johnson, your mate boris well he never he didn't change the using public the logo using public funds. >> no , not using public funds. >> no, not using public funds. that's what we're talking about here. yeah. the use of public funds, those drones were paid for by the london taxpayer to promote a candidate in the election , i think was pretty election, i think was pretty disgraceful . disgraceful. >> and most people moaned about it. >> the thing that really triggers people like daniel and some viewers is that sadiq khan is going to win again. >> well, that is what i expect to hear. not facing the argument. >> well, if he doesn't from mr matthew, we are undertaxed stadlen speaking on behalf of the socialist labour party, which is in conspiracy , whose

which is in conspiracy, whose leader used to be in conspiracy with brussels. >> no, that's exactly the sort of nonsense expect to hear. of nonsense i expect to hear. >> what triggers me is the abuse of public funding. that's what worries people. worries me most people. >> massive abuse >> it's a massive abuse of pubuc >> it's a massive abuse of public funding. it not public funding. but was it not the worst? was this a little narcissistic? yes it's not worth talking about. narcissist i am my greatest moment on a cricket pitch, a member of the pitch, and as a member of the establishment such as yourself, lord moyne and you will, you will appreciate this was. was will appreciate this was. i was playing against playing for the press against the parliament in the the houses of parliament in the annual match, and i smacked sadiq khan back his head sadiq khan back over his head either a lofted four or a either for a lofted four or a six. can't remember which was six. i can't remember which was very he's probably six. i can't remember which was very forgiven he's probably six. i can't remember which was very forgiven me. s probably never forgiven me. >> think we have to go. >> i think we have to go. unfortunately, the one thing i wanted make about the wanted to make about the fireworks is that sadiq khan was saying place for saying that it's a place for everyone, you're everyone, provided you're carrying knife, because at the carrying a knife, because at the same year old child same time, a 16 year old child lost his life to a stabbing incident. and that's a lot. last yeah incident. and that's a lot. last year. thank you so much. my brilliant panel. year. thank you so much. my brilliant panel . uh, daniel brilliant panel. uh, daniel moylan, stadlen next up moylan, matthew stadlen next up is brilliant farage. is the brilliant nigel farage. so don't go too far. thank you for outlook for watching a brighter outlook with sponsors of

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>> good evening. >> good evening. >> tonight on farage. will labour be any better than the conservatives if they win the next election, which so many assume . we'll talk about maine, assume. we'll talk about maine, the second state that has banned trump from running for president is it time the supreme court nationally intervened and on its 25th birthday, at time just 25th birthday, at a time just after the death of jacques delors, we ask, has the euro been a success? did the uk perhaps make the great escape? but before we do all of those things, let's get news with things, let's get the news with sophia wenzler. >> thank you nigel. good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . four people are the gb newsroom. four people are dead afterjapan was hit by dead after japan was hit by several earthquakes resulting in evacuations and tsunami warnings . that's according to ishikawa authorities. emergency services have been responding to multiple fires and up to 30 collapsed

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