party to launch its general election campaign, claiming labour and the conservatives are two sides of the same socialist coin. >> firing the starting gun leader richard tice, reveals all to our political editor luke versus luke. >> will luke the nuke littler, the 16 year old darts super star beat cool hand luke humphries, the world number one. we'll be live at ali harbi ali. as excited crowds begin to gather . excited crowds begin to gather. could littler score big.7 >> could littler score big? >> no regrets . junior doctors >> no regrets. junior doctors insist they are doing the right thing as record breaking mass walkouts threaten to cripple hospitals during their busiest week of the year. but have these trade unionists abandoned their patients and their colleagues at their time of need? >> and that's a big and impactful question on yes, there's darts going on today.

there's general election seems closer than ever. but today people are going to the hospital perhaps needing to go to a&e, perhaps needing to go to a&e, perhaps expecting to receive an operation soon. they're going to be impacted by the longest strike in nhs history. >> yes, there will be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who may well have been waiting by the phone for weeks already to find out when their appointment is , when their appointment is, when their surgery will be, and then to be told today , tomorrow, the next told today, tomorrow, the next day, the next day. that actually it's being cancelled because there's not enough staff. >> and the other thing the, the other doctors, the nurses who've accepted the pay settlement at the, uh, what was it over 8% pay rise. the doctors , of course, rise. the doctors, of course, the most junior of junior doctors have been offered over 10% pay rises. that was good enough nurses, seemingly enough for the nurses, seemingly not good enough the doctors. not good enough for the doctors. but those other but it's those other medical professionals hospitals that professionals in hospitals that will be left in the lurch. >> absolutely. us >> oh, absolutely. well, let us know you've been impacted by know if you've been impacted by these strikes. you have these strikes. or do you have a relative, perhaps, who has been

who's waiting? yonx for an who's been waiting? yonx for an operation be told that it's operation to be told that it's yet again delayed? us know . yet again delayed? let us know. vaiews@gbnews.uk >> com but before all of that, let's get the headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gp newsroom. the nhs could be stretched to breaking point doctors in point today as junior doctors in england walk the in the england walk off the job in the health service's longest ever strike, ended six days strike, an unpaid ended six days of industrial action has begun after talks between the government and the bma union broke down. junior doctors want a 35% pay rise, which would restore their real earnings to levels seen in 2008. the government says that's unaffordable, but insisted late yesterday that the door remained open for further negotiations . open for further negotiations. one doctor, robert lawrenson , is one doctor, robert lawrenson, is the bma's junior doctors committee co—chair. he says the strikes will continue until pay is improved . is improved. >> we're very happy to talk

about restoring our pay over a matter of years , and we're very matter of years, and we're very happy to do that over a period of a time frame and we don't necessarily need it all in one go. we're happy to sit down and have a collaborative conversation with the government, but they've pushed us out of the negotiation room. they don't want to talk with us. and the fact of the matter is, the nurse has rejected their pay deal. the nurse has rejected their pay deal . the nurses still in deal. the nurses are still in dispute with the government and the government, to be the government, to and be honest, whole have honest, the whole country have abandoned our nursing colleagues as well . as well. >> meanwhile, commuters are being warned of severe travel disruption next week due to strike action on the london underground. members of the rmt union are staging another walkout over pay, with no services expected. on the whole network from sunday until friday. talks between the union and transport for london are continuing . lebanon's heavily continuing. lebanon's heavily armed hezbollah group says the death of a top hamas official in beirut will not go without a

response. salah al—arouri died in what israel called a surgical strike against the hamas leadership, insisting it didn't represent an attack on lebanon despite taking place in beirut, hezb , which is allied with the hezb, which is allied with the hamas terror group and backed by iran , has been firing at israel iran, has been firing at israel on its southern border since the attacks in october over the death of the deputy leader has ignhed death of the deputy leader has ignited fears the fighting could spread into a wider regional conflict . hundred of flood conflict. hundred of flood warnings remain in place after storm henk battered parts of the uk last night. parts of birmingham, leicester and northampton are particularly at risk of floods, while transport delays as the clean delays are expected as the clean up continues. one man died after a tree fell on his car while he was driving in gloucestershire. police say the 50 year old died near kemble , now a list of more near kemble, now a list of more than 150 people with links to the convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein is to be made

pubuc jeffrey epstein is to be made public soon follows a ruling made by a judge in new york that will see previously redacted names revealed for the first time. its understood many of the names have already appeared in court documents and appearing on the list does not necessarily indicate any wrongdoing. a long time associate of powerful politicians and business people, epstein preyed on girls as young as 14. he died in jail in 2019 before he could be tried on sex trafficking charges . more young trafficking charges. more young people are making the switch to non—alcoholic beverages. a study carried out by yougov found 44% of those aged 18 to 24 consider themselves to be either occasional or regular drinkers of alcoholic alternatives . of alcoholic alternatives. that's up from 31% in 2022. it also found younger generations are now the most sober age group overall, with 39% preferring not to drink at all. that's after a survey in november found 1 in 10 british drinkers feel they have an unhealthy relationship with

alcohol . and luke littler will alcohol. and luke littler will make history tonight when he becomes the youngest player to compete in the final of the world dance championship . at world dance championship. at just 16 years old, he beat rob cross six two, in the semi—final last night. he showed nerves of steel as he closed out the match in style, continuing his dream run into tonight's big tournament when he takes on the new world number one luke humphries and the history making finalist had some words of wisdom for anyone who dreams of following him. >> the unbelievable like i've only i only set my goals to win one game and come back after christmas and i'm still here. >> well , i christmas and i'm still here. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> everyone's probably got more than me. in fact, i did pass my sport, but yeah. um, look, young , young dart players, hopefully they up to me. and if they do look up to me. and if you, if you do practice, then you, if you do practice, then you be where i am . you could be where i am. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker

by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily. to tom and. emily. >> good afternoon britain. major developments in the world of politics today, as all parties are set to gear up for that heavily expected 2024 election. >> yes . so richard tice heavily expected 2024 election. >> yes. so richard tice has heavily expected 2024 election. >> yes . so richard tice has been >> yes. so richard tice has been hosting a reform uk press conference in london today, where he slammed both rishi sunak and keir starmer. where he slammed both rishi sunak and keir starmer . as sunak and keir starmer. as expected, he accused the government of betraying the british people on immigration. and he also announced ben habib as the party's candidate for the wellingborough by—election. >> meanwhile , sir ed davey, the >> meanwhile, sir ed davey, the leader of the liberal democrat 5, leader of the liberal democrat s, has been laying out their plans as his party currently sits at around 11% in the polls. he also refused to rule out a possible coalition with keir starmer's labour party. >> i'm curious now our political edhon >> i'm curious now our political editor, christopher hope, and political correspondent olivia utley. join us now with the latest olivier. i've been

watching both the liberal democrats and the reform uk gear into . action. well, absolutely . into. action. well, absolutely. >> i'm in guildford today where the lib dems are very much bringing the fight to the conservatives ed davey was sounding very, very chipper this morning. he has his sights set on not just guildford , where the on not just guildford, where the tories have a majority of 3300, but lots of other seats in surrey, including woking and jeremy hunt's constituency of east surrey, now hunt's constituency . he has a majority constituency. he has a majority of just over 8000. he said that in normal times that probably wouldn't be a target seat, but this time around it most certainly is, and they're even looking at michael gove's seat up the road, which has a majority of about 18,000. they are sounding very enthusiastic , are sounding very enthusiastic, very excited . and they're not very excited. and they're not ruling out a coalition with laboun ruling out a coalition with labour. here's what ed davey had to say when i asked him about it focussed on a general election,

i announced today that we think the general election should be on the 2nd, and it couldn't on may the 2nd, and it couldn't come soon enough. >> we'll tabling in >> we'll be tabling a bill in parliament next week, which would give mps the chance to call the general election rather than sunak away than rishi sunak running away and hiding away. have that and hiding away. let's have that general election now. people need change. people are fed need that change. people are fed up of waiting and i'm really, really pleased and proud that the liberal democrats are ready for whenever it for that election whenever it comes. >> so yes, to a coalition with laboun >> i'm focussed on the general election. there are many, many conservative mps that liberal democrats can defeat across the whole of the south of england, parts of london, parts of manchester, parts yorkshire , manchester, parts of yorkshire, in in wales , liberal in scotland, in wales, liberal democrats are really on the march . shown with our march. we've shown with our historic by—election victories and local election and our amazing local election results across the country, that we are now a amazing campaign force in british politics and i think when the election comes, we will be the surprise of the election . so so not ruling out election. so so not ruling out a

coalition with labour, but whatever happens , coalition whatever happens, coalition wise, what's certain is that there is a tacit agreement between the liberal democrats and labour, a sort of agreement for non—aggression . for non—aggression. >> so in seats like this here in guildford , where the where the guildford, where the where the lib dems are advancing far, far quicker than labour, there won't -—— too much of a labour threat be too much of a labour threat for now. in the last election, lib dems didn't do too well. since then they've achieved four pretty magnificent by—election victories. lib dems, of course, are on very good ground fighting by elections. they're very, very good at sending their resources to the right place and people are willing to vote against the government in by elections purely for a sort of protest vote. things look very vote. things will look very different in a general election, but from what ed davey has been saying this morning, the lib dems are feeling very, very confident. and that is in those blue wall those seats blue wall seats, those seats around the south of england where traditionally the tories do indeed. it's not do very well indeed. it's not just about the red wall anymore. it's not just about those seats

where labour usually wins, but the people lent their votes to the people lent their votes to the conservatives in to order get brexit done. the tories probably have accepted quite a long ago that many of those long time ago that many of those are to go now they're are going to go now they're having to fight for their own heartlands south of heartlands in the south of england . england. >> and really interesting stuff. thank you olivia, coming there from us, from a bustling guildford high street, looks like one of the looks like we talk a lot about the death of the probably not in the high street. probably not in that constituency. it's a nice high um, that constituency. it's a nice high we um, that constituency. it's a nice high we cross um, that constituency. it's a nice high we cross now um, that constituency. it's a nice high we cross now to um, shall we cross now to christopher who is who has christopher hope, who is who has a guests for us. uh, a couple of guests for us. uh, with regard to reform uk's announcement today . that's right. >> tom and emily, i'm here in central london, a stone's throw from westmill, where richard tice the leader of reform, has turned his fire on the labour party. called the prospect party. he's called the prospect of a labour government starmer , of a labour government starmer, gordon. he said the party labour party want more taxes. they want to get closer to the sclerotic ring of the european union, more spending, more nanny state regulations and to betray the

working class . and it's in that working class. and it's in that final about working final line about the working class. that's a clue for what's happening here. reform is having a at the possibility of a go at the possibility of a labour party . we do know they're labour party. we do know they're drawing the drawing support away from the tory in the polls. tory party at 10% in the polls. and rising, they're going and rising, but they're going after now . and that's after labour now. and that's makes this launch more what makes this launch more interesting might interesting than you might expect reform party. expect from the reform party. with me now is richard tice and ben now, ben habib ben habib. now, ben habib is a candidate for the party in the wellingborough by—election. but richard , to you first, is richard tice, to you first, is it a for reform, a wasted it a vote for reform, a wasted vote because you don't know where live ? where voters live? >> it's completely opposite. >> it's completely the opposite. it's actually to it's the only way actually to save britain. that is the truth. the crisis facing the country is so main two parties so serious. the main two parties are two forms of socialism high taxes, wasteful government spending, dafta eu regulation means the government has betrayed people more mass immigration, a huge betrayal by the tories that labour want more of. and we are now the only party of the working class of tens of millions of people who

feel completely abandoned and let down, and we're the only party that will get rid of the job destroying deep , party that will get rid of the job destroying deep, damaging, net zero policy. and that's why i think people will vote for change. the press conference today was packed. >> most of the lobby reporters that there hearing what you that were there hearing what you have to say, but weren't they really waiting for nigel farage when about the when you worried about the questioning farage? questioning about nigel farage? of course, founded big of course, founded was a big player the brexit party. >> the more people talk about nigel reform the better nigel and reform uk, the better it does our job for us of raising brand awareness because we're a relatively new brand . we're a relatively new brand. but as more people hear about us, they say, who's this lot? and they like what they hear. they look at our policies and say, god, someone's say, oh, thank god, someone's talking i'll vote talking common sense. i'll vote for so that's great. for those guys. so that's great. and i'm very clear. the more help nigel can give, the better . help nigel can give, the better. but some important but he's got some important decisions make and good decisions to make and a good poker always keeps their poker player always keeps their cards close to the chest until the perfect moment. >> perfect moment is >> but that perfect moment is coming soon or when coming soon. how soon or when will nigel farage declared his intentions , and what will he do

intentions, and what will he do with party? do you want to with your party? do you want to stand to be mp? stand to be an mp? >> i think that's the least likely is that nigel likely thing, is that nigel would under past would stand under a first past the post system a the post system in a constituency he's consistently said wouldn't and look, said that he wouldn't and look, we proportional we want proportional representation. that's the right and proper so and fair and proper way. so look. but knows. we're look. but who knows. we're getting ready for a may election. so we haven't got that much but as i say, nigel's much time. but as i say, nigel's got to work out what help he can give when give and give when he can give it. and it's a big job saving britain. that's literally what we're doing because starmer ageddon will be a catastrophic cocktail for this country. we've got to avoid it. we've got to wake people up. there is a genuine alternative to socialism, and that's reform uk. >> okay. now, ben habib, you're the party's deputy leader. you're standing for the party in the in the in the lightly shortly to be announced wellingborough by—election. you were you ukip the comparable election of 2015 was second. can you win it ? you win it? >> well i think there's every chance of winning it. very different environment i different environment to 2015. i think there was still some hope

that the governing class this that the governing class of this country the country would deliver the country would deliver the country to prosperity, but we've seen , you know, richard's seen, you know, richard's described starmageddon, we've actually ageddon actually had sunak ageddon haven't he's the haven't we? he's taken the country . we've already country. we've already experienced it. he's taken the country to the economic brink. he's taken it to the cultural brink. he's taking it the brink. he's taking it to the political constitutional political and constitutional brink. off northern brink. he's floated off northern ireland without so much as a, you know, off you go with our blessing. no, this man is awful . blessing. no, this man is awful. starmer is equally bad . if you starmer is equally bad. if you want to change the way this country is governed , you have to country is governed, you have to vote for it . but how? and we vote for it. but how? and we will. we will get the. so to answer your question, what we need to do, what i need to do is to is to get the tory voters out . there are 32,000 tory voters voted for peter bone in the last election, 13,000 for labour. i suspect labour will get slightly less . all i need to do my single less. all i need to do my single challenge is to convince those tories and those labour voters who are small c conservative, of which there are many to come out

and engage with us, recognise what our policies are and if they're sick of these two, which they're sick of these two, which they should be. and i'm sure they should be. and i'm sure they are, vote for us. >> you worry though? you >> do you worry though? you don't know where voters live? i've covered enough by elections with back in 15 years ago. with ukip back in 15 years ago. ten years ago. the problem was the would wander around the party would wander around seats and not know where the supporters other supporters are, and the other legacy parties the legacy parties know where the voters live. >> again, the landscape is very different. you know, we can reach people through social media that we couldn't media in a way that we couldn't reach 2015. we are going reach them in 2015. we are going to penetrate people's psyche . to penetrate people's psyche. we're going to get our message out there, then to out there, and then it's up to them decide how they vote. them to decide how they vote. but i aim to this seat. i but i aim to win this seat. i aim a thorn in sunak's aim to be a thorn in sunak's side. until general side. until that general election is called. >> how big a deal will brexit be? brexit was a reason why ukip did so well in 2015. will you drive what some see the drive home what some see as the brexit betrayal? >> absolute is huge . >> absolute brexit is huge. brexit is not some kind of esoteric political obsession. brexit delivered for brexit would have delivered for the people of wellingborough prosperity. it would have got rid of net zero. it would have

increased. it would have given the government the ability to reduce regulations which they've shirked. it would have given the government the ability to cut taxes. of this would help taxes. all of this would help the people of wellingborough, and how brexit and we will show them how brexit would have delivered them. would have delivered for them. brexit issue . brexit is a huge issue. >> and back to you richard tice. very an election very briefly, if an election was held many mps would held today, how many mps would you win? >> w- e possible. the more >> as many as possible. the more people vote for us, then people that vote for us, then the we and people are the more we get. and people are very, very concerned about the way is being run. way the country is being run. and quite rightly said, and as ben quite rightly said, listen, if you want to vote for change, so if you want change, you've it. you've got to vote for it. >> okay, there have it, >> okay, there we have it, richard and ben amor be richard tice and ben amor be full of the of january. full of the joys of january. lots geddon lots of the words geddon starmageddon sunak geddon back to the studio, tom and emily. >> well, let's hope it's not. good afternoon, britain. ageddon. i don't how many ageddon. i don't know how many gardens can do. is gardens we can do. is that a suffix we attach to suffix that we can attach to any word days? but christopher word these days? but christopher hope, so much. hope, thank you so much. >> definitely works >> armageddon definitely works better gatwa better than sunak ncuti gatwa too many syllables, too many syllables. but you go. syllables. but there you go. very interesting. you've got the lib get at those

lib dems trying to get at those blue the blue wall seats, and then the reform going working reform party going after working class votes. >> well, let's get another perspective. us is perspective. now joining us is the undersecretary for business perspective. now joining us is the trade.ecretary for business perspective. now joining us is the trade. uhetary for business perspective. now joining us is the trade. uh kevin, r business perspective. now joining us is the trade. uh kevin, kevin ness and trade. uh kevin, kevin hollinrake . uh, kevin, first of hollinrake. uh, kevin, first of all, we've been talking a lot about semantics and sunak ageddon, but let's put that charge to you . do the tories charge to you. do the tories just as bad as the labour party as reform uk has been saying ? as reform uk has been saying? >> well, if you followed what reform was saying, you'll end up with no seats for reform and you'll, if you vote for them and you'll, if you vote for them and you will end up with starmageddon, that's a reality you'll get you'll , you'll get, you'll get you'll, you'll get, um, kirstie armour in number 10 because that will undermine our vote clearly. >> and, um, so , so if you want >> and, um, so, so if you want to bring that about if that's what you want to do, then that's the choice you want to make. >> but this nonsense to say we're turning economy we're not turning the economy around, you brought, i around, that you brought, i think, is an economic disaster to this area. >> i think ben habib was saying, i mean, cast your mind back a year ago, tom, you had 11%

inflation, 11.1% inflation. you had , uh, forecasts of deep had, uh, forecasts of deep recession for the uk. >> you know, all those things have been turned around. your rising interest rates , all those rising interest rates, all those things have been turned around. rising interest rates, all those things seen been turned around. rising interest rates, all those things seen inflationied around. rising interest rates, all those things seen inflation now round. rising interest rates, all those things seen inflation now below you've seen inflation now below 4. what rishi committed 4. that's what rishi committed to do is , uh, the economy is to do is, uh, the economy is growing again . that's what rishi growing again. that's what rishi committed to do. we've reduced the small boat the numbers of small boat crossings number of people crossings, the number of people this whole year by 36. >> that's against a backdrop >> and that's against a backdrop of rising numbers across europe. >> what we're doing is working . >> what we're doing is working. what we need do is continue what we need to do is continue to deliver this. and of to deliver on this. and of course, keep making our to case the british people were the right solution . right solution. >> but kevin, isn't it? unfortunately the case for your party that an increase number of people looking to reform people are looking to reform working voters? brexit working class voters? brexit backing don't approve of massive migration, feel let down by the conservative government. that's why they're looking to vote for a party like reform , a party a party like reform, a party that they feel, uh, addressed their concerns more . their concerns more. >> i do understand that we've

been through a difficult time economically because of because of covid, of course, and the cost of living crisis , which has cost of living crisis, which has not been a domestic issue . it's not been a domestic issue. it's been an international issue. i understand people in those situations feel they want change, but they are getting change. we're seeing real wages now, growing in real terms as they were inflation coming under control. i think what people need to see is what they if they do for the reform message , do fall for the reform message, they will simply deliver for sir keir starmer into numbers 10 downing street. that will be an economic disaster that will be disaster in terms of political correctness . you will see all correctness. you will see all the things that those voters hate implemented across his country, all those transgender issues, all those things that people talk to me about. so people talk to me about. so people have got to be careful what they wish for. if they want to see centre right party to see a centre right party running country, they need running this country, they need to vote for one that's going to vote for one one that's going to vote for one one that's going to mps in the next to return mps in the next election, a election, which is a conservative party. >> now, kevin, you're right that the country has so far avoided recession. last year

recession. the obr last year said that 2023 would see a 1.4% contraction in the economy . in contraction in the economy. in fact, we saw 0.6% growth. but i put it to you, that 0.6% growth is not much to write home about . is not much to write home about. but yes, we've avoided recession. but we have not grown particularly quickly . and particularly quickly. and perhaps the party leader who's talking most about growth these daysis talking most about growth these days is sir keir starmer. >> well , talk cheap, tom, isn't >> well, talk cheap, tom, isn't it? anybody can say that. but the reality is , since 2010, the reality is, since 2010, we've grown faster than france and germany, as you know. and since brexit we've done that. of course we want to see faster growth. that's why the chancellor has brought about tax cuts the cuts for people across the economy. also for businesses economy. but also for businesses to encourage them to invest. we know business investment is lacking in the uk compared to other areas, but we've made those reforms. we are seeing , as those reforms. we are seeing, as you have acknowledged, faster growth than people had envisaged this year , against a backdrop of this year, against a backdrop of people were predicting a recession. we think we can build on that. course we want to on that. of course we want to see growth of two and where

see growth of two and 3% where we to be. productivity we need to be. productivity increases, of course , we need to increases, of course, we need to see that. i'm doing lots of work in the business department with the secretary of state to try and about some very and bring that about some very exciting things going on. advanced in terms advanced manufacturing in terms of trade agreements around of free trade agreements around the world in terms of the world and in terms of simplifying regulation , which we simplifying regulation, which we are building tens of are doing building tens of pounds of regulation coming off businesses as many things we businesses as so many things we are doing to make it easier for businesses to drive the economy forward , that's need to forward, that's what we need to do. but business is first and they'll drive the economy forward . forward. >> and just lastly, i was >> and kevin, just lastly, i was reading this morning how you are calling for the chief of calling for the former chief of the office , sir paula the post office, sir paula vennells, to hand back her cbe. you're also backing prosecutions. this is all relating to the horrendous honzon relating to the horrendous horizon it scandal that afflicted so many postal workers . tell us a bit about how what's happening here now . happening here now. >> well, you're right to bring this up . obviously many people this up. obviously many people will have been absolutely appalled, but also captivated by

the programmes on the on itv. the bates versus post office programme. there are three things we're trying to do. get money out the door as quickly as possible to put postmasters who've been affected by the scandal. we've already paid out £148 million and settle the majority of cases , as we are majority of cases, as we are trying to make sure those , uh, trying to make sure those, uh, those claims are settled fairly and put people back into the place they were. but also, we've we've instituted this inquiry, the statutory inquiry. so when williams is undertaking that it hasn't finished, it's, uh , it's hasn't finished, it's, uh, it's conclusions yet. when it does, we want to see people identified, responsible for what happened, the appalling circumstances is the appalling actions of the post office , but actions of the post office, but also those people held to account and, if possible, to prosecutions . but as account and, if possible, to prosecutions. but as i said, this morning, i do think that if i was paula vennells who got a cbe for her services to the post office in 2020, ably reflecting on that very carefully and thinking ,

on that very carefully and thinking, was that the right thing to accept at that point in time, given that what's happened subsequently? um i think it would be sensible for her to voluntarily return that cbe and, and, um, and that would be the right thing to do right now. um i think many, many people would agree with you there. >> uh, hollinrake , thank >> uh, kevin hollinrake, thank you forjoining us you very much for joining us here on good afternoon britain. >> you very but >> yes, thank you very much. but coming have junior doctors coming up, have junior doctors abandoned their patients and colleagues their time of colleagues at their time of need? we'll be discussing that

>> you're listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back. it's 1227 now. junior doctors in england are currently engaged in the longest nhs strike in history , spanning nhs strike in history, spanning six days and causes causing substantial disruption to services. >> yes . services. >> yes. discussions on salaries between the government and the british medical association have reached a point of stalemate.

health secretary victoria atkins has appealed for the strikes to be called off, but warns the bma needs to be really thick. >> well, our london reporter lisa hartle is at saint thomas's hospital for us. lisa, can you bnng hospital for us. lisa, can you bring us the latest from the picket line? our bma ? are the picket line? our bma? are the doctors out there ? doctors out there? >> hello. >> hello. >> well, the picket line was here. they've finished now. uh, there was about 70 doctors. junior doctors in attendance at that picket line earlier on. but obviously, this is the busiest time of the year for the nhs, with lots of people contracting respiratory illnesses like flu and covid. so one of the big concerns is the fact that junior doctors make up almost half of all the doctors within the nhs , all the doctors within the nhs, and this is just going to be more pressure, added on at a time when the nhs is even more stretched than it normally is. so look at what the so if we look at what the doctors are doctors junior doctors are asking for, they're asking for a 35% pay that means they're 35% pay rise. that means they're on about roughly between 15 to

£17 an hour. at the moment. they want that to be increased to around 20 to £21 an hour. now, earlier on, we were speaking to some of the junior doctors on the picket line, as well as members of the public, and this is at what they is a little look at what they had say . had to say. >> because i am >> i'm striking because i am tired of the low energy of everyone being upset with how much we're getting paid and how little it is and how it's being eroded, and the fact that i mean, i was when i was in 2008, i was very young. but the fact that they're making the same amount that that we did, i don't understand that . and the fact understand that. and the fact that i am doctor , i'm that i am a doctor, i'm obviously a canadian. that's why my sounds like this. but i my voice sounds like this. but i trained here in the uk and i would to stay here. i saw trained here in the uk and i w> that's terrible. just >> that's terrible. it's just it's appalling. it's £14, $28 an houn it's appalling. it's £14, $28 an hour. kentucky fried chicken is a casual on a weekend . you make a casual on a weekend. you make heaps more than that. i think on a weekend we make up to $40 an houn a weekend we make up to $40 an hour, $50 an hour on public holidays, which is £25 here.

>> lots of my friends are in australia. um they're settling down there. and don't want to come back and to me it seems , come back and to me it seems, um, the wrong way to do things to spend a lot of money training us in this country, in the nhs , us in this country, in the nhs, to then have people moving away . to then have people moving away. >> it's interesting that we spoke to some people from australia. there and some of the junior doctors mentioning australia, because this all ties in why the junior doctors say in to why the junior doctors say they want to see that pay rise, because they say they to because they say they need to retain that are retain junior doctors that are within the nhs. so many are leaving go to places like leaving to go to places like australia, where the working conditions are better. they're paid and other paid better. and the other reason say that they want reason they say that they want to see this, the pay rise is to attract more people to the profession because there's so many vacancies within the nhs, and as long as there are vacancies, then the doctors, the junior doctors who are working, they're because they're stretched because they're stretched because they're two peoples

they're stretched because th> what's >> do you know what's fascinating to me? >> on what >> what's your take on what number trade union number of bma trade union activists who then say, we're going to move to australia, a country without an nhs ? country without an nhs? >> i know a country with a significant private health care system where if you're in the top income bracket in australia and you don't take out private health care, you have a tax penalty placed on you. you're

encouraged to take out private healthcare. so there's so much more money swimming around the health care system, but it shows it's not about nhs as a as model. >> is it ? it's about um, you >> is it? it's about um, you know, they want more pay which is, which is fair enough. >> maybe there are, maybe there are things we should learn from australia. maybe country australia. maybe in this country we should say you really should be. if you can afford it, take out that's out private health care. that's what but what australia says. yes but it's unfair because it's a bit unfair because then you're for you're paying oodles of tax for other use the nhs, but other people to use the nhs, but not for yourself, which i think is unfair to let us know what you made of what those activists, junior doctors, activists, those junior doctors, had to say outside hospital. had to say outside the hospital. >> interesting that >> they're very interesting that one was canadian, one one of them was canadian, one australian, an and then a british one. i thought. was that too interesting to hear? i think the strongest point they have is that are abandoning the that people are abandoning the nhs and going other nhs and going off to other countries, but is that an argument wider reform of the argument for wider reform of the nhs? i would so let us nhs? i would argue so let us know think. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> well, coming up, hundreds of flood warnings remain in place in the wake of storm henk. we're

live in some of the affected areas. after your latest headunes areas. after your latest headlines with tatiana . headlines with tatiana. >> good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. junior doctors in england are on strike, putting unprecedent strain on the nhs during one of its busiest periods . six days of its busiest periods. six days of industrial action has begun this morning after talks between the government and the bma union broke down, junior doctors want a 35% pay rise, which would restore their real earnings to levels seen in 2008. the government says that's unaffordable but insists the door remains open for further negotiation on doctor robert lawrenson is the bma's junior doctors committee co—chair . he doctors committee co—chair. he says the strikes will continue until pay is improved. we're very happy to talk about restoring our pay over a matter of years. >> we're very happy to do that over a period of time frame, and we don't necessarily need it all in one go. we're happy to sit

down and have a collaborative conversation with the government, but they've pushed us out of the negotiation room. they don't want to talk with us. and the fact of the matter is, the nurses has rejected their pay the nurses has rejected their pay deal. the nurses are still in dispute the government in dispute with the government and and to be and the government. and to be honest , the whole have honest, the whole country have abandoned our nursing colleagues as well . as well. >> meanwhile , commuters are >> meanwhile, commuters are being warned of severe travel disruption next week due to strike action on the london underground . members of the rmt underground. members of the rmt union are staging another walkout over pay , with no walkout over pay, with no services expected on the whole network from sunday until friday. talks between the union and transport for london are continuing . hundreds of flood continuing. hundreds of flood warnings remain in place after storm henk battered parts of the uk last night. parts of birmingham , leicester and birmingham, leicester and northampton are particularly at risk of floods , while transport risk of floods, while transport delays are expected as the clean up continues. one man died after a tree fell on his car while he

was driving in gloucestershire police say the 50 year old died near kemble . and luke littler near kemble. and luke littler will make history tonight when he becomes the youngest player to compete in the final of the world darts championship . at world darts championship. at just 16, he beat rob cross six two, in the semi—finals. last night he showed nerves of steel as he closed out the match in style, continuing his dream run into tonight's big tournament when he takes on the new world number one, luke humphries. when he takes on the new world number one, luke humphries . you number one, luke humphries. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com . well gbnews.com. well well, gb news.com. well well, a motorist gbnews.com. well well, a motorist has died after a tree fell on the car he was driving in gloucestershire on tuesday. >> that was as strong winds and heavy rain battered the uk dunng heavy rain battered the uk during storm. henk >> yes, and more than 300 flood warnings remain in place across the country and commuters face

major transport delays in the wake of the storm, which battered parts of the uk overnight. >> yes , train services have >> yes, train services have struggled to get back on track and the national highways said several in england several major roads in england have been closed due to floods and trees blocking them well , and trees blocking them well, let's go live to one of our reporters now, jack carson in reporters now, jack carson is in upton on severn and will hollis is northampton , wiltshire is in northampton, wiltshire will, let's start with you. >> uh, how has this part of the country been affected ? yes. country been affected? yes. well, it's usually the water that attracts people here to billing aquadrome near northampton. >> but for the last couple of days, that's the thing that's been pushing away people that houday been pushing away people that holiday here and the residents that live here as well . that live here as well. >> you can see behind me a load of cars from the car park as well as narrowboats, a lot of mooring here, but in the trees behind . behind. >> and that's where there are around a thousand caravans where people were celebrating the start of the new year , and

start of the new year, and that's where they first heard sirens telling people yesterday to evacuate and to get out of their properties. >> now we've been seeing today more rescues that have been going on. >> the police have been here as well as local northampton fire and rescue service, and from some of the things that we've been seeing, people that were trapped essentially that live on their narrow boats but couldn't get away from their narrowboats , get away from their narrowboats, the usual walkways completely blocked off by flood water. people with pets, some people that were disabled as well, people in wheel chairs having to be taken away on dinghies by the local fire service. now there was a severe flood warning in place for this part of the midlands here in northamptonshire that has recently been downgraded to a regular flood warning . now, regular flood warning. now, a flood warning means that that you have to act, that if you've got some sort of a flood plan in place, then you should start acting on that flood plan. that means by getting away from the

area where you were at risk and taking yourself to safety. so it has been downgraded. storm hank has been downgraded. storm hank has now moved on, but there are lots of people here that have been affected by storm hank and thatis been affected by storm hank and that is the same story across the midlands and parts of the south of england . now, i've been south of england. now, i've been speaking to one of the people who was evacuated and a lady called debbie, and she was telling me about her experience. see the water levels were getting higher and higher, and i went and was touch went to work and it was touch and go if i should go work. >> i thought work for >> but i thought work for northampton healthcare trust . northampton healthcare trust. >> went and my family was >> so we went and my family was contacting me and saying the levels were getting higher and higher. >> so i thought in the end i've got to come back to get the car off and get the two dogs out so quickly. packed up a case and went off and then we heard the fire. well, not the fire alarm. the sirens going , um, and then the sirens going, um, and then the rest. what i know is they had to evacuate once the flood breached. it'sjust had to evacuate once the flood

breached. it's just knowing what everything is wrecked inside , everything is wrecked inside, really. and, yeah that's it. really. and, um. yeah that's it. all mud and all the freezers and, well, items of furniture , i and, well, items of furniture, i suppose. >> well, for debbie and the other people that have been evacuated from billing aquadrome, they're told that they cannot yet return to site. they've been turned away by security. and the people that work here in a business that has beenin work here in a business that has been in administration, they're saying that communication hasn't been what they would expect, but billing aquadrome, the organisation that runs this houday organisation that runs this holiday park, say that they're going to be updating the local residents as soon as they have something that they can tell them, thank you very much. >> will, will is in northamptonshire. let's pass over jack who's in over to jack carson who's in upton on severn. how has the storm wreaked havoc in this area . for >> yeah, well, certainly here in this lovely little leafy village with the boats moored along the river severn, it has burst its

banks once again. >> speaking to locals here today, that is not anything out of the ordinary. >> they say over past >> and they say over the past few months they've really been battered by constant storms battered by the constant storms here, the increasing here, meaning the increasing river here on the river river levels here on the river severn. um, which this village sits alongside, means it's continuing to burst its banks. the road behind me, hanley road here upton, upon severn, is here in upton, upon severn, is one of the main roads through the and of the village here, and it's, of course, down the petrol course, closed down the petrol station bit further station a little bit further down um, of down the road. and, um, of course, for but course, not only for safety but because they are, they are, they are, are , they are flooded are, they are, they are flooded there. quarters flooded. there. four quarters is flooded. the which the river severn, which is flowing of me, is flowing to the side of me, is flowing to the side of me, is flowing very, very quickly . and flowing very, very quickly. and the warning that, the met office warning that, of course could still see course we could still see a peak. we haven't really maybe, possibly seen the peak until later particularly later today, particularly if the rain as done in the last rain, as it has done in the last kind of ten, minutes or so, kind of ten, 15 minutes or so, starts come down. it had starts to come down. it had been very a of a dry morning, very much of a of a dry morning, which was good news these which was good news for these residents that they might thought already thought that they had already seen peak. but as rain seen the peak. but as the rain comes of water comes down and lots of water still come from further up still to come from further up on the severn , still to come down

the severn, still to come down and through these areas and flow through these areas with of course, bursts with already, of course, bursts its banks. that could see its banks. um, that could see a problem for residents a little bit later now, according to bit later on. now, according to some the people that i have some of the people that i have spoken since been here, spoken to since i've been here, they say river the moment they say the river at the moment is higher than it is about ten feet higher than it has been . um, previous on has been. um, on previous on previous occasions . so certainly previous occasions. so certainly there is some worry about whether this road behind me can of course get cleared can of course get cleared and can get pumped. are flood get pumped. there are flood defences which they say the defences here which they say the residents certainly they defences here which they say the resithankful certainly they defences here which they say the resithankful cebutnly they defences here which they say the resithankful ce but otheray are thankful for, but other residents complaining about the management of the river and how one man said to me that he hasn't seen the river dredged in a while, and that build up of silt on bottom the on the silt on the bottom of the on the bottom the river. he thinks, bottom of the river. he thinks, um, of course, is not happy that that doesn't feel this area that he doesn't feel this area has managed has been properly managed because has because of how frequently it has flooded in the now, across because of how frequently it has flood

they're driving road they're driving on the road networks. you very much. >> thank you very much. jack carson from upton on severn. great to talk to you. i mean, yes, this sounds very minor considering the storm has wreaked so much havoc and now we've got flooding and of course sad due to the winds. but sad death due to the winds. but the yesterday were the winds yesterday were extraordinary in extraordinary even here in in london. ian, when i left the studio afternoon, studio yesterday afternoon, i thought going blown away. >> and it's incredible what jack was saying about sort of the aftershocks of it all. even though the storm is now past all of the water that fell in a wide, disparate area now rushing together and the peak of the sort of flooding might be still yet to come. >> i could see why residents are, you know , frustrated are, you know, frustrated because it always seems that they're taken surprise by they're taken by surprise by floods. the defences just floods. and the defences just aren't up to scratch. but anyway, lots of you have been getting about the getting in touch about the historic junior doctors strike, which today . sadly, which has started today. sadly, martin says the nhs cash cow rolls on this week. my private appointment with a cardiologist was cancelled because he's covering for striking junior

doctors. that won't be cheap and a nice big bonus for him at the start of the year. >> and danny adds that the nhs is beyond repair. i'm now 60 years of age and have tried getting a gp appointment for months months months with no luck. months >> that's really bad if that. if that's the case, john says make it that any doctor cannot leave the nhs for the ten years. the nhs for the first ten years. would put off people from would that put off people from training? that's an training? that's a that's an issue. as pay, put doctors issue. as for pay, put doctors in two new pay bands where one new doctor in their first two years also think years of working. i also think it's quite misleading to bracket so many doctors as junior doctors. of the doctors. it's about half of the workforce they're not all sort of year one, two. of year one, year two. >> anyone who isn't a consultant isn't it? it's huge, huge part of but of the of the workforce. but also we all think they should have a pay of course they have a pay rise. of course they should pay rise. they've should have a pay rise. they've been offered an almost 10% pay rise . but but they want 35. rise. but but they want 35. >> not enough . tom anthony this >> not enough. tom anthony this one's quite good and i tend to agree this anthony says agree with this anthony says that have finished for the that they have finished for the day 1230, and they're day at 1230, and they're supposed to be on strike. if they're on strike, they should

pick it 24 hours. no excuse. pick it for 24 hours. no excuse. what load useless strikers. what a load of useless strikers. yes, that we often yes, it does seem that we often at this time on the show, we go to the picket line and they've already gone they've already left. gone they've already left. gone they've already showed up for already gone home. showed up for ten minutes in the morning, took their and then ten minutes in the morning, took thetheir and then ten minutes in the morning, took thetheir bike. and then on their bike. >> what they doing for >> so what are they doing for the of the day? the rest of the day? >> nothing, i guess watching netflix, watching netflix, watching tv news. yes. to see if they you know, in our vox they were, you know, in our vox p0p- they were, you know, in our vox popthey're very good. um, well, >> they're very good. um, well, keep them coming keep those keep them coming in, keep those views coming we do enjoy views coming in. we do enjoy them, i think we them, particularly. i think we both much agreed with both very much agreed with anthony. where on earth the anthony. where on earth did the picket , in picket line go? but, um, in other news, the zero emission vehicle manned date comes into force today with the government requiring 22% of all new car sales to come . prize of zero sales to come. prize of zero emission vehicles. i think that should say comprise zero emission vehicles. >> and if you think that sounds tough, the threshold will rise annually with a target of 100% of new car sales being electric by 2035. now, this is key. failure to abide by the rules

will result in a requirement to pay will result in a requirement to pay the government £15,000 per polluting car sold above the limit, so manufacturers , if they limit, so manufacturers, if they sell less , no, if they sell too sell less, no, if they sell too many polluting cars, they will have to pay the government money. mm. okay >> well let's let's try and work all of this out. joining us now is james court, the ceo of the electric vehicle association in england. and thank you for making the time for us this afternoon. i suppose, uh , there afternoon. i suppose, uh, there is wide sort of understood ending of the 2035 ban on, on uh, petrol and diesel vehicles perhaps. what there's less general understanding on is the taper to get there. what's the reasoning behind that in your view . view. >> so i mean we're starting from a base of around 16,17% >> so i mean we're starting from a base of around 16, 17% last year of cars , and we need to get year of cars, and we need to get to 22% this year. uh, the theory is you can't really leave it all

until the last, uh, year. so we need to get to 100% by 2035. and i think it's 80% by 2030. so, uh, it's a level sort of, uh, graph going upwards rather than trying to rely on a huge amount of heavy lifting. uh, at the end , which obviously gives huge amounts of confidence for car manufacturers, for chargers , for manufacturers, for chargers, for consumers. uh, this sort of small increments up, i think is a much more sensible way of doing and puts uk doing it and puts the uk in a position where we can hopefully steal lead the steal the lead on the manufacture jobs that with manufacture jobs that come with this . this. >> james, %- %— % can't this be this. >> james, can't this be left >> james, why can't this be left to the market though , as you to the market though, as you say, 16 to 17% of new car sales are electric or ready. that sounds like we're making decent progress. not too far off 22. so why can't this be left to the market and personal choice ? market and personal choice? james, did you hear me? there no. i think we've lost james. >> let's see if we can re—establish some audio connection. we'll get our technical wizards to do that.

but i think it is an interesting point because there is astonishing growth in electric vehicles, not least, and he's not the most popular figure in the world, but elon musk sort of made them quite cool. tesla's are quite cool cars. they're very expensive. and i think in the way that perhaps 15 years ago, people looked at electric vehicles and thought they're really dorky. i don't think people really anymore people think that really anymore . i like some of the most attractive cars on the market are electric vehicles. well some would disagree with you on that one. >> there's something about driving a, you know, traditional petrol or diesel car that you know, but have you seen enjoy a tesla model? >> i think it's model s. they are quite sleek with the gullwing doors that open up like back the future. back to the future. >> we've got another guest that's we've got that's appeared. we've got motoring car motoring journalist and used car dealer thank dealer danny kelly. danny thank you very much. now you're a little bit more sceptical about this transition to electric vehicles. do you think it's right that the government is putting in these sort of arbitrary regulations and

targets ? targets? >> i don't , and not only do i >> i don't, and not only do i not think it's right, i think it suppresses of freedom of choice for the consumer. >> and your last contributors correct. >> the total electric sales account for about 16. >> they need to get to 22. >> they need to get to 22. >> some manufacturers are better at producing and selling electric cars than they are. >> others. >> others. >> for example, skoda, your europe wide skoda, their electric car sales account for around about 7. >> mazda they're massive on plug in hybrids, but of course that's no good. >> it needs to be completely electric and they only have one model in the range. >> bmw. do they do about 16% electric sales? >> so it's going to put massive pressure on manufacturers and it's going to get to a stage . it's going to get to a stage. >> emily hand tom, where consumers are going to be denied. this is my belief. i can't speak on behalf of the manufacturers, but consumers are going into skoda going to walk into a skoda dealership and they're to dealership and they're going to say , i want buy a petrol say, i want to buy a petrol skoda, please . skoda, please. >> salesman is going to skoda, please.

>> to salesman is going to skoda, please. >> to them,alesman is going to skoda, please. >> to them, well, an is going to skoda, please. >> to them, well, unfortunately say to them, well, unfortunately we're not going sell you one we're not going to sell you one because we haven't hit our 22% target yet. because we haven't hit our 22% targdanny , by your logic as well, >> danny, by your logic as well, many car manufactures, teachers who efficient at who aren't so efficient at making electric vehicles could simply go out of business or move to countries and manufacture cars in countries where there aren't these rules . where there aren't these rules. >> look, i'm emily, i'm in business myself, and if i know that it's going to cost me £15,000 as a punishment because i haven't hit my target and i want to sell someone a diesel skoda, i'm simply not going to produce right hand drive petrol or diesel skodas because i'm going to go out of business. >> it's, uh, it's all academic potentially as well. tom and emily. because if rishi sunak sorry, if , uh, emily. because if rishi sunak sorry, if, uh, keir starmer doesn't do in the next general election, he's going to row back on anyway, he's going on the 2035 anyway, he's going to take to 2030. to take it back to 2030. >> so this is all academic. >> so this is all academic. >> don't how the >> i don't know how the manufacturers are going to feel about it's for the consumer. >> it's counter—intuitive to what we stand for in this country.

>> and that's being very reasonable when we want to purchase something that we want to danny, it the case that >> danny, isn't it the case that everyone the world is doing everyone in the world is doing this? course, the european this? of course, the european union's all 2035. our union's bans are all 2035. our ban was originally 2030. it caused quite a lot of consternation when rishi sunak delayed it for five years, taking us more in line with the eu, making that taper less steep. uh, isn't this just the way that the world's going ? way that the world's going? >> without a doubt, it's the way that the world is going. but whether the consumer wants to follow it is completely different. um, it's my view that unless you live in a detached house with a drive and an electric charging point, then you have a 6070 grand tesla you can have a 6070 grand tesla orindeed you can have a 6070 grand tesla or indeed a 25 grand. uh renault zoe . because that's how cheap zoe. because that's how cheap they are. >> but if you live on a tight terraced street somewhere in the north—west north—east north—west or the north—east where guarantee where you can't guarantee a parking outside your parking space outside your house, the hell you house, how the hell are you supposed you with supposed to charge you with cables tripping hazard. this >> it's a tripping hazard. this is disaster. waiting to happen. the motorway service stations, they're actually they're they're actually experiencing something called

charge where owners of charge rage. where owners of electric vehicles are having to wait hours and hours and hours. and unless the infrastructure is there, it's all well there, it's all very well talking a good game. but from a consumer's point of view, i take you back a consumer's point consumer's point of view, i take yo view.< a consumer's point of view. >> the choice needs to be there, and if you're into buying and if you're forced into buying and if you're forced into buying an electric car, you need to know going be know that you're going to be able it. able to charge it. >> and at the moment, that just isn't in place. >> thank you very much, danny kelly, motoring kelly, strong staff motoring journalist, dealer. journalist, used car dealer. thank your time . thank you for your time. >> i to say, i saw a story >> i have to say, i saw a story about this week, which was, about this last week, which was, uh, the rage. someone uh, about the rage. someone rage. someone had objected to a charger installed outside charger being installed outside his years ago. wrote his house a few years ago. wrote to council saying this to the council saying this is awful. anti health and awful. this is anti health and safety. they got the thing stopped anyway, stopped being built. anyway, fast this he's fast forward to this year. he's bought electric car. way . bought an electric car. no way. he charging point he wants a charging point outside the outside his house. but the council it because council won't build it because of objection, of his previous objection, saying safety was the saying health and safety was the reason this can't be built. >> the >> well, i just think the government around government messing around with all regulations all these regulations changing them seems, is them every day, it seems, is probably having an impact on that that

that economic growth that doesn't happening. doesn't seem to be happening. possibly doesn't seem to be happening. poswell, a completely different >> well, a completely different story. now, 16 year old darts sensation luke littler produced another stunning display last night to reach the world darts championship final, beating rob cross by 6 to 2. >> yes, i don't know about you, but i've never been so excited about darts. he's the youngest ever player to reach the final of the premier darts tournament, and faces luke humphries. luke v luke tonight's clash at luke in tonight's clash at alexandra palace . right. shall alexandra palace. right. shall we speak to our reporter ray? who is there ? ray tell us. who is there? ray tell us. >> well, commentators say that if luke littler lifts the sid waddell trophy this evening, it will be the greatest story in the history of darts. will be the greatest story in the history of darts . and of the history of darts. and of course, for every sportsman or woman, routine is absolutely key. >> and luke, the nuke has been very clear about his routine . he very clear about his routine. he wakes up every day at midday, whether he wants to or not. he then goes out and eats a ham and cheese omelette , and then he

cheese omelette, and then he heads here to the alexandra palace in london. if we just pan around ollie, we can see the steps. those are the 26 steps that mr littler will have to walk up , uh, that mr littler will have to walk up, uh, as he arrives that mr littler will have to walk up , uh, as he arrives here walk up, uh, as he arrives here today. walk up, uh, as he arrives here today . he's then going to go today. he's then going to go through this door behind me and he is going to immediately know , he is going to immediately know, not start practising. he's going to have a pizza, and then he will start practising. that's the routine that he's been doing every the last two every day for the last two weeks. and he sees no reason to change it. of course, you mentioned that amazing semi—final victory over rob cross last night . rather cross last night. rather stunning fashion. it has to be said during that match he showed absolute composure , maturity absolute composure, maturity beyond his years as well, getting 16 treble, 20, he produced three 130 plus checkouts and average with three darts, well over 106. now it's important to remember he only qualified for this tournament by winning the world youth

championship in november, so it's been a rather amazing winter for him and now he's just one win away from completing his world championship dream world youth championship and in a matter of months, winning potentially the world championships. >> incredible back with so much more in the next hour. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. blustery showers will continue for most of us during the rest of the day. some brighter spells and it will turn dner brighter spells and it will turn drier in the south towards the end the day. but for the time end of the day. but for the time being, we've got low pressure in charge the storm charge even if the main storm henk has moved off the scene around low , we've got around this low, we've got various occluded fronts bringing some longer of rain, but some longer spells of rain, but in it's blustery showers in general it's blustery showers as into the evening. as we head into the evening. some spells emerging, some clear spells emerging, particularly towards the southwest , and by particularly towards the southwest, and by midnight, certainly some drier weather

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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it is 1:00 on wednesday. the 3rd of january. out of the traps reform uk becomes the first party to launch its general election campaign, claiming labour and

the conservatives are two sides of the same socialist coin. >> we'll be live with our political editor with all the latest no regrets junior doctors insist they're doing the right thing as record breaking mass walkouts threaten to cripple hospitals during their busiest week of the year. >> but have these trade unionists abandoned their patients and their colleagues at their time of need ? their time of need? >> luke versus luke will luke the nuke littler , the 16 year the nuke littler, the 16 year old darts superstar , beat cool old darts superstar, beat cool hand luke humphries , the world hand luke humphries, the world number one. we'll be live at alexandra palace as excited crowds begin to gather. could littler score . littler score. big ihave littler score. big i have to say i've never been excited. more excited about. i've never watched a darts game in life, but this might in my life, but this might be never. in my life, but this might be never . never not one. this never. never not not one. this might be the first. >> unique for >> it's definitely unique for a sporting . and i

>> it's definitely unique for a sporting .and i know sporting event. and i know there's a debate about whether it is a sport or not, whether it's a game, it is. it is it's a game, but it is. it is technically sport and this is technically a sport and this is the world championships. we're all this is very all awaiting. and this is very exciting the fact exciting indeed. and the fact it's alexandra palace, which it's at alexandra palace, which is you know , iconic, is very, you know, iconic, iconic in broadcasting as well, the original home of the bbc or one of the original homes of the bbc. >> yeah, it was indeed. and, um, i was i got into reading about it this morning. the split in the the british the 90s between the british dans the 90s between the british darts federation and the world dans darts federation and the world darts championship and they've all they've come back together and they're nice. now and they're playing nice. now after the pandemic. but my goodness there's a, there's a, there's history here. there's a whole history here. i had of, you know, just had no idea of, you know, i just imagine rolling out imagine luke sort of rolling out of bed at midday. >> he is still 16 years old. so very much a teenager rolling out of bed, getting his ham and cheese omelette, then, you know, doing a bit of practice, having a pizza, then leaping up those 26 steps and taking the win and just casually winning. >> as a 16 year, he only won the youth championship a couple of

months ago. but it is months ago. but but it is remarkable his parents remarkable that his parents have taught darts since taught him to play darts since just moment he left just about the moment he left the womb. so this this has been his and, uh, it's really his life. and, uh, it's really quite exciting to see. and a doner kebab and of coke doner kebab and a pint of coke to, uh, celebrate. >> well, or he's16. >> well, or he's16. >> so if it's with a substantial meal, he could even have a beer. now i know not all of you at home will be darts fans, but i think i think we can all get a little bit excited about this one. >> one. >> it's lovely to see a 16 year old do so well. let's hope he makes it to end. and, uh, makes it to the end. and, uh, takes trophy. takes the trophy. >> well, >> yes, well, gbviews@gbnews.com. if you have >> yes, well, gbvithoughts ews.com. if you have >> yes, well, gbvithoughts ews.com.or you have >> yes, well, gbvithoughts ews.com.or indeed ve any thoughts on darts or indeed on else. but before we on anything else. but before we get of that, are get into all of that, here are your headlines tatiana . your headlines with tatiana. >> good afternoon. 1:02. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. junior doctors in england are on strike, putting unprecedented strain on the nhs during one of its busiest periods , six days of its busiest periods, six days of industrial action has begun this morning after talks between the government and the bma union

broke down. junior doctors want a 35% pay rise, which would restore their real earnings to levels seen in 2008. the government says that's unaffordable, but insists the door remains open for further negotiations , runs doctor robert negotiations, runs doctor robert lawrenson is the bma's junior doctors committee co—chair. he says the strikes will continue until pay is improved. we're very happy to talk about restoring our pay over a matter of years . of years. >> we're very happy to do that over a period of a time frame, and we don't necessarily need it all in one go. we're happy to sit down and have a collaborative conversation with the government, but they've pushed out of negotiation pushed us out of the negotiation room. they don't want to talk with us. and the fact of the matter rejected matter is, the nurses rejected their deal. the nurses are their pay deal. the nurses are still in dispute with the government and the government and to be honest, the whole country have abandoned our nursing colleagues as well . nursing colleagues as well. >> meanwhile , commuters are >> meanwhile, commuters are

being warned of severe travel disruption next week due to strike action on the london underground . members of the rmt underground. members of the rmt union are staging another walkout over pay, with no services expected on the whole network from sunday until friday. talks between the union and transport for london are continuing. ing hundreds of flood warnings remain in place after storm henk battered parts of the uk last night. the west midlands ambulance service is warning people to take extra care after several people had to be rescued from cars caught in flood waters. parts of birmingham , leicester and birmingham, leicester and northampton, particularly are at risk of floods, while transport delays are expected as the clean up continues. delays are expected as the clean up continues . meanwhile, one delays are expected as the clean up continues. meanwhile, one man was killed when a tree fell on his car while he was driving in gloucestershire. police say the 50 year old died near kemble , 50 year old died near kemble, the eurostar has been given a slap on the wrist by the advertising watchdog after promoting special fares that

were available to very few people. the train company ianed people. the train company invited customers to soak up every second of summer with a european getaway for just every second of summer with a european getaway forjust £39, european getaway for just £39, but the advertising standards authority found only a very small portion of seats available at that price. describing the promotion as misleading, eurostar says it takes complaints seriously and will ensure the scenario doesn't happen again . more young people happen again. more young people are making the switch to non—alloy alcoholic drinks. a study carried out by yougov found 44% of those aged 18 to 24 consider themselves to be either occasional or regular drinkers of alcoholic alternatives . of alcoholic alternatives. that's up from 31% in 2022. it also found younger generations are now the most sober age group overall , with 39% preferring not overall, with 39% preferring not to drink at all. it's after a survey in november found 1 in 10 british drinkers feel they have an unhealthy relationship with

alcohol . and luke littler will alcohol. and luke littler will make history tonight when he becomes the youngest player to compete in the final of the world dance championship. at just 16 years old, he beat rob cross six two, in the semi—finals last night. he showed nerves of steel as he closed out the match in style, continuing his dream run into tonight's big tournament when he takes on the new world number one luke humphries and the history making finalist had some words of wisdom for anyone who dreams of following him. the unbelievable ball like i've only i only set my goals to win one game and come back after christmas and i'm still here. >> well , i christmas and i'm still here. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> everyone's probably got more than me. in fact, i did pass my sport, but . yeah. um. look, sport, but. yeah. um. look, young, young dart players, hopefully they do look up to me. and if you, if you do practice, then you could be where i am. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. and now

back to tom and . emily. back to tom and. emily. >> now, major developments in the world of politics today , as the world of politics today, as all parties started to gear up for that heavily expected 2024 election. yes >> so richard tice there has been hosting a reform uk press conference in london today where he slammed both rishi sunak and keir starmer. as you might expect, he accused the government of betraying the british people on immigration. and he also announced ben habib as the party's candidate for the wellingborough by—election >> meanwhile, sir ed davey has been laying out the liberal democrats plans as his party currently sits at 11% in the polls. he also refused to rule out a possible coalition with keir starmers labour party . keir starmers labour party. >> yes, so our political editor, christopher hope, and our political correspondent olivia utley join us now . olivia, utley join us now. olivia, you're in guildford. i understand ed davey has had a quite a busy day this morning. at least he's out campaigning in

jeremy hunt and michael gove seats . well absolutely. seats. well absolutely. >> ed davey has had a very busy day and i've rarely seen the leader of the liberal democrats looking so happy and excited . looking so happy and excited. the lib dems very much have their eyes set on this town of guildford, and the conservatives here have a majority of just over 3000, and it looks pretty likely that the lib dems will snatch it off them. but they also have their eye on michael gove and jeremy hunt's constituencies. both also in the surrey area. jeremy hunt has a has a majority of just over 8000. michael gove has a majority of over 18,000 and although numbers like that might might be considered safe, tory seats in normal times these are not normal times and it does feel quite possible that the lib dems could manage to take them. the problem for the conservatives of course, is that this is very much their own territory. these are the blue

heartlands, the blue wall, as ed davey is calling it. there are those seats in the north and the red wall, which have traditionally always been laboun traditionally always been labour, where in 2019 voters lent their votes to boris johnson in order to get brexit done, those seats the tories have probably resigned themselves to losing. well, at least some of them. but these seats in their heartlands will be much more of a problem. and of course, the tories can't really afford to go losing cabinet members if they're planning to rise from the ashes after what people are assuming will be a general election defeat. they want to keep all of their experience mps. they're ready to start all over again . ready to start all over again. if ed davey gets his way , that's if ed davey gets his way, that's not going to be possible. of course, the other issue is tactical voting. what's going to happen when it comes down to labour or lib dem seats? the labour or lib dem seats? the labour and lib dems seem to have some sort tacit some sort of tacit non—aggression agreement whereby in the lib dems in areas where the lib dems stand, a chance of doing well, places labour won't places like surrey, labour won't be too aggressive and vice versa

. and there's also, of course, a chance that in the event of a hung parliament, there could be a labour lib dem coalition this is what ed had say when a labour lib dem coalition this isasked ed had say when a labour lib dem coalition this isasked him had say when a labour lib dem coalition this isasked him about1ad say when a labour lib dem coalition this isasked him about that say when a labour lib dem coalition this isasked him about that focusseden i asked him about that focussed on a general election, i announced think announced today that we think the general election should be on may 2nd and it couldn't on may the 2nd and it couldn't come enough. come soon enough. >> be tabling a bill in >> we'll be tabling a bill in parliament next week, which would give mps chance to would give mps the chance to call the general election rather than rishi sunak running away and away . let's have that and hiding away. let's have that general election people general election now, people need that change. people are fed up of and really, up of waiting and i'm really, really pleased and proud that the liberal democrats are ready for that election whenever comes. so yes, to a coalition with laboun >> i'm focussed on the general election . there are many, many election. there are many, many conservative mps that liberal democrats can defeat across the whole of the south of england. parts of london, parts of manchester, parts of yorkshire, in scotland , in wales, liberal in scotland, in wales, liberal democrats really on the democrats are really on the march. we've shown with our historic by—election victories and amazing local election and our amazing local election results across the country , that results across the country, that we a amazing campaigning we are now a amazing campaigning force british politics. and

force in british politics. and i think when the election comes , think when the election comes, we will be the surprise of the election . election. >> so absolutely not ruling out a coalition with labour there. the tories have problems on their hands in the north, where labour are advancing, and it seems they have problems in the south. two where the lib dems are hot on their heels. let's see how rishi sunak responds when we hear from him later this week. >> thank you very much, olivia. the liberal democrats on the march. >> yes. and it seems to be that the lib dems are usually on the march and particularly picturesque parts of the country, wherever there's a by—election high by—election a charming high street. lib street. it seems that the lib dems are there. uh, olivia, thank you for that. let's turn to christopher hope now in westminster. earlier westminster. but earlier today you press conference you were at a press conference with reform uk. you've been announcing some things this morning . that's right tom, it morning. that's right tom, it was a packed press conference. >> all the major broadcasters, journalists were there, which shows the interest. i think , in shows the interest. i think, in reform olivia is there with reform uk. olivia is there with the lib dems there on ten points

in the polls, but so are reform uk. the difference is reform uk have no mps . lib dems have of have no mps. lib dems have of course. well a baker's dozen probably more than 12. and that's the point about the lib dems and the frustration for reform they have all this reform is they have all this support, reform is they have all this supporin the polls. but no points in the polls. but no actual mps yet. now richard tice to the leader of the party has unveiled plans today to be seen as the coming after the labour party. they're saying they they warn about starmageddon . um if warn about starmageddon. um if labour win the election. they're saying that the party reform will will contest every single seat of the election in england, scotland and wales . seat of the election in england, scotland and wales. um, seat of the election in england, scotland and wales . um, they say scotland and wales. um, they say they're the party of the working class and they're going after these brexiteer supporters who came, who were disaffected with the tory party would have been for labour party. they think reform can get those. um, but the question is where they go next though. the big question that this press conference was , that this press conference was, what about nigel farage? um, later, mr tice made very clear to me at gb news that him

standing to be an mp is the least likely option. it sounds more likely that nigel farage might role running the might take a role running the campaign, taking over view being the front of house person. but not running for a seat . not actually running for a seat. of course he's he's lost eight times trying to be an mp, so it might be he stays with gb news a bit longer and christopher are we hearing something about, uh, henry bolton, the former ukip leader who may well coincidentally is joining us on the panel in just a few moments. >> christopher, are you there? yes. >> that's right. yeah. emily. that's right . >> that's right. yeah. emily. that's right. uh, henry bolton, of course he was the successor to nigel farage as leader of ukip. he ran the party for six months from 2017 to 2018. now henry bolton has tried to join the tory party. he was turned down by his local party in kent. he went to a neighbouring constituency which accepted him. he then applied and paid his money, was going to join the tory party, but it was turned down by richard um holden , who's down by richard um holden, who's the new tory party chairman ? um,

the new tory party chairman? um, henry bolton is upset by this because he sees as perhaps correctly, that rishi sunak did say the party is a broad church when he we've asked whether someone like nigel farage, someone like nigel farage, someone from the right of public politics, the tory politics, can join the tory party, clear that isn't party, it seems clear that isn't always the case. and mr bolton has told gb news it shows that this idea that the tory party is a broad church is for the birds. i may may have more to i think he may may have more to say you at 130. say about that with you at 130. >> christopher , what did richard >> christopher, what did richard holden specifically say was the reason why henry bolton couldn't join ? join? >> in the leaked email seen by gb news, which was being published, or parts of it on the website shortly at gb news, he said that it was a political decision by the party chairman in office in in accordance with the terms and conditions on the party's join website . i've asked party's join website. i've asked the party this morning why this happened. they have confirmed on background and that mr bolton has been turned down for

membership party and membership of the tory party and they made very clear on background that high profile defectors can be more trouble than they worth. but it does draw into question, i think the claim by mr sunak twice to gb news in october and december last year that he would accept someone like nigel farage joining because the big problem the tory party has got is people supporting the reform party , supporting the reform party, feel the tory party is no longer their home. now clearly the leader is trying to address that by saying we welcome everybody, but not in the case of henry bolton . bolton. >> very interesting. i'm very interested , ed, to hear what interested, ed, to hear what henry bolton has to say at about. yes, as you said, about one 3135 will be sitting down with him and our other panellists to question why the conservatives would make that decision. high profile defector, more trouble than he's worth. >> is this about politics, policies or personalities ? well, policies or personalities? well, isuppose policies or personalities? well, i suppose we'll find out in due course. but also , uh, junior course. but also, uh, junior doctors in england are currently

engagedin doctors in england are currently engaged in the longest nhs strike on record . strike on record. >> it's spanning six days and, of course, is going to cause substantial disruption to services. >> yes. discussions on salaries between the government and the british medical association have reached a position of stalemate. health secretary victoria atkins has appealed for the strikes to be called off, but warns that the bma needs to be realistic . the bma needs to be realistic. >> yes. so joining us now is former director of the who cancer program , professor karol cancer program, professor karol sikora . carol, very depressing sikora. carol, very depressing reading this morning just about how many appointments really have been cancelled. delay made, rescheduled as a result of this strike action. people saying up to a million appointments in the last year because we've had so many days of strike action just in the past year, where does this come to some kind of resolution? from what i can see, victoria atkins, the health secretary , says she's ready to secretary, says she's ready to sit negotiate with the sit down and negotiate with the bma, say they're ready to sit

down and negotiate. uh so what's actually happening ? actually happening? >> it's an amazing situation, as you say, a very sad situation for the many people waiting for something. >> and there are probably about 8 million people waiting for something. >> and this isn't going to help. it isn't going to help. not because the junior doctors are going to everything, but the going to do everything, but the consultants out consultants have been pulled out of that they of the routine work that they normally do to plug the emergency gaps where the doctors, the doctors, are doctors, the junior doctors, are not there. i mean, you know, for someone of my generation, it's unthinkable that doctors could strike at all. >> i remember when i was a junior doctor, there were strikes going on in other european countries , and we were european countries, and we were horrified it . horrified by it. >> on the other hand, you know, 35% is a hell of a whack to expect in one go. >> and i think it was very telling . telling. >> the spokesman on the news programme just before here on gb news has said they'll negotiate over a period of years to get their standards back to 2008.

that's the clue negotiation. i can't understand why it hasn't come to an end . come to an end. >> these doctors don't like being on strike and the politicians. >> it's embarrassing that they can't solve it. something has got to give . got to give. >> i suppose. one of the really interesting points here is that nurses, to some extent , have nurses, to some extent, have accepted their settlement . accepted their settlement. actually, they were offered a smaller pay increases than junior doctors have been offered on average, junior doctors have been offered, uh, a fairly decent pay increase. 10.1% for those that are on the earlier years, down to just over 8% for those who are a little bit more senior, why ? why is there this senior, why? why is there this discretion discretion between how doctors are reacting to these offers and nurses ? these offers and nurses? >> i know and the consultants have sort of settled. >> they're not finally agreed, but they it looks as though they're going to agree to the settlement, which is more than the nurses, but less than what

the nurses, but less than what the junior doctors want to get. i mean, that that's the whole problem with it all. there are so many different professional cabals, silos , if you like, in cabals, silos, if you like, in the nhs , that each one is the nhs, that each one is negotiating separately . i mean, negotiating separately. i mean, everyone wants to have good health care. there's no doubt . health care. there's no doubt. and to see what's going on now at a time when for no fault of itself, the nhs is really on its knees post—covid backlogs, it never had the capacity beforehand. now it really doesn't have the capacity. it's just so sad and, you know, it just so sad and, you know, it just pushes into a two tier system where those that can pay for things privately and those that can't have to put up with the delays. so that's the tragedy of the whole thing. i'm sure mr bevan is turning in his grave when he sees scenes like this. so, and my bosses, when i was a junior doctor, i don't know what they say. they shout at me. i'm sure we can't do that now. of course. so carol, just just quickly is the issue. settlement will come. how long

it's going to take and how much suffering we don't know. >> yeah. carol is the issue. the unions is the rcn a little less intransigent? is it the bma that are particularly militant as a trade union? because i don't believe they put this latest pay offer to the doctors. have they . offer to the doctors. have they. >> sorry i couldn't hear the, uh don't worry, we're going to sound there anyway. >> thank you very much indeed, professor karol sikora, who's cancer programme former director of, um . yes, because is it the of, um. yes, because is it the bma that are just particularly intransigent, particularly militant? the thing putting the offer to the their members. >> i think the rcn has always had a bit of that reputation, but of the but then the leadership of the rcn accepted the offer. but then the membership of the rcn rejected the offer. and then when the rcn had to ballot again to extend the period at which they could strike, they failed to meet the threshold. so it was the ordinary nurses who thought, you what, we really you know what, we don't really want our labour much want to withdraw our labour much more any more. so it ended up

settling, it was incredibly settling, but it was incredibly messy. um, yes. >> yeah. i just doubt that every single doctor wants to be single junior doctor wants to be out striking. single junior doctor wants to be out no striking. single junior doctor wants to be out no , striking. single junior doctor wants to be out no , i striking. single junior doctor wants to be out no , i don't|g. single junior doctor wants to be out no , i don't think. i don't >> no, i don't think. i don't think either. but think they do either. but of course, there a sort of course, there are a keen sort of core that do very so . core that do very much so. >> now coming up, there is fury from women's rights groups as a un charity picks a transgender model as its uk champion for women. we're discussing this after the short

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news news. >> now, some women's rights groups have criticised charity un, women uk for selecting a transgender model as its uk champion , as one of its un uk champions. >> yes organisations, including fair play for women and sex matters, have labelled burgdorf unsuitable and highlighted previous online posts made by monroe, which were , in quotes, monroe, which were, in quotes, homophobic and racist, leading to childline dropping her as an ambassador in 2019. well joining us now is the co—founder and executive director of sex matters, maya forstater. >> and thank you for making the time for us this afternoon. i suppose many people will be thinking that the un is a is a credible organisation that must represent all different types of , of people. and, and i suppose the question is, is there not room in the un women tent to

have one of its ambassadors being a transgender woman ? being a transgender woman? >> i think we need to be clear about the language here. when you say a transgender woman, what you mean is a man who wishes he was a woman, um, and a man who dresses up in women's clothing , um, and wants to be clothing, um, and wants to be treated as a woman. but that doesn't make someone a woman. that's not what being a woman means . means. >> and the un would say if you were to look at munroe bergdorf walking street , would walking down the street, would you think that this individual is a man? she's someone who has secondary sex characteristics of a woman. she looks like a woman. she is a woman. in the eyes of uk law , bergdorf looks like uk law, bergdorf looks like a man's sexual fantasy of what a woman is. >> um, i don't know if i saw bergdorf walking down the street where there i would clock him, but i think i probably would.

um. it's quite difficult to see from , you know, sort of glamour from, you know, sort of glamour shots . the size, the way someone shots. the size, the way someone moves , the way they sound. but moves, the way they sound. but in any case, um, women shouldn't be having to make those kinds of judgements when they're using single—sex spaces and un women is campaigning against women being sexually harassed , and for being sexually harassed, and for women to have what they call safe spaces . and the question safe spaces. and the question about whether a man convincingly looks like a woman or whether he just thinks he does, is not something that women should have to worry about. maya why do you think this un charity has chosen this transgender woman to represent british women? >> why do you think they've done that? >> um , i don't know. you'd have >> um, i don't know. you'd have to ask them. i think they're trolling british women . they're trolling british women. they're saying there are 33 million women in britain , and none of women in britain, and none of them are good enough for this job. so let's get a man who dresses up as a sexual fantasy of a woman. i think it's an insult. >> maiam are some of the

charities that have written about this and have objected to this, have of, uh, drawn on some of her more controversial , um, of her more controversial, um, opinions and social media tweets. what else is out there that people have objected to ? that people have objected to? >> um, i mean, as i say, the bafic >> um, i mean, as i say, the basic objection is that munroe bergdorf is a man. um, but there are also no things in his history that are concerning. um, for example, asking children who are gender confused to dm him and contact him, um, personally . and contact him, um, personally. see, this is why he was dropped as a, um, ambassador for the nspc , because that is absolutely nspc, because that is absolutely against safeguarding. uh you know, whether he was doing it with the best of motives or not. but you don't ask children to get in direct contact with strange adults on the internet. you just don't do that, maya. >> you keep saying him and i

just wonder if you're trying to sort of bring people with you . sort of bring people with you. oh, no. i'm. on let's let's hope we can get the sound, re—establish here because i think this is an important point, because there are of course, legitimate debates to be had in terms of, i'm sorry, no one, no, everyone has a right to not use someone's preferred pronouns. a right in law . but pronouns. a right in law. but i'm asking whether or not it's polite or even a fundamentally believes that that men can't change their gender and become woman. >> and that is her right to believe that she's director of sex matters. she obviously finds this massively insulting , this massively insulting, knowing that we'd have a representative of women who's not a biological woman. and i think that's a fair enough point of view. >> i wonder here, because there are . oh, maya's back. fantastic are. oh, maya's back. fantastic i'm sorry that we dropped out with the sound there, because what i was going to ask, i suppose , is do you think it's

suppose, is do you think it's particularly effective for your cause trying to bring as many people with you as possible , people with you as possible, because there are legitimate debates to be had about access to spaces or indeed sporting facilities . but by insisting to spaces or indeed sporting facilities. but by insisting on calling trans women more men and saying he rather than she, do you think that's where most people are? do you think that's going to be the best way to bnng going to be the best way to bring people with you ? bring people with you? >> why are we unhappy that munroe bergdorf is has been appointed to this post? it's because he's a man. why do we not want people who call themselves trans women competing in women's sports ? it's because in women's sports? it's because they're men. why do we not want them in women's spaces? it's because they're men. if we can't say that, how can we protect women's rights ? women's rights? >> well, obviously they'd argue that not men, that they that they're not men, that they go out of their way and go through a pretty torrid time to not be men and perhaps there are many trans women in the united

kingdom who face exactly the same sort of catcalling , who same sort of catcalling, who face the same sort of sexual assault, who face the same sort of misogyny that many women do going about their daily lives , too. >> i'm not sure you're right on that one, tom. >> no , i don't think you're >> no, i don't think you're right. and that, you know, i have no idea what it feels like to be a man who wishes he was a woman and a man who wishes he has a woman, has no idea what it feels like to be a woman. he doesn't go through anything to doesn't go through anything to do with having a woman's body, pregnancy, , pregnancy, fear of pregnancy, fear of men who are much bigger and stronger. whatever they're wearing . uh, those are not wearing. uh, those are not experiences that a man can can have. whatever he's wearing, however good his makeup . however good his makeup. >> oh, well, there you go . thank >> oh, well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. maya. forstater and forstater co—founder and executive of sex executive director of sex matters. she's not going to budge on that with you, tom. >> think i think we're >> no, i think i think we're going to have to agree to disagree but i do think disagree there, but i do think there is there is a point that there is there is a point that there lots of trans women there are lots of trans women who aren't six foot five. there

are lots of trans women who are go through life and do face the same sort of. yes. >> but tom, you're you're a very rational and logical person. you know, there is a difference between a biological woman and a and a transgender woman. you do know is a i know know that there is a i know there's chromosomal there's a chromosomal difference. you argue difference. i've heard you argue that actually biological that actually, um, biological men , transgender women should be men, transgender women should be able compete in, in women's able to compete in, in women's sports. >> um, on a case by case basis. so i think time i think you should. i think so, for example, so i think time i think you srthere's think so, for example, so i think time i think you srthere's thithere'sfor example, so i think time i think you srthere's thithere'sfowerynple, if there's a, there's a very petite . that's ridiculous. no petite. that's ridiculous. no muscle mass individual . muscle mass individual. ridiculous. i think you should take it on. >> you have to have a broad brush approach. let us know what you think. gb views gb news. com contentious. on contentious. as always here on good britain to bring good afternoon britain to bring all sides of the debate. >> but of course coming up we're going to be joined the studio >> but of course coming up we're goithe:o be joined the studio >> but of course coming up we're goithe:o be jo leader the studio >> but of course coming up we're goithe:o be jo leader ofe studio >> but of course coming up we're goithe:o be jo leader of ukip, io by the former leader of ukip, henry bolton, as he's denied concerns of party membership. but before all of that, headunes but before all of that, headlines with tatiana .

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isabel monday to thursdays from . isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> good afternoon britain. it's just coming up to 20 to 2. and do you remember this rishi sunak the prime minister once said that the conservative party is a broad church . the tory party is broad church. the tory party is a very broad church. >> right. i welcome lots of people who want to subscribe to our ideals, to our values. >> he was, of course, being asked by our political editor whether he'd welcome nigel farage into the party. well to swap nigel farage for another ukip leader . swap nigel farage for another ukip leader. henry bolton has just been denied membership of

the conservative party and he makes up half of our panel today i >> -- >> so tonight, incidentally, i must say by henry bolton and the former labour mp ivor caplin . former labour mp ivor caplin. >> henry, we're going to have to start with you. what's the story behind this? when did you decide to try and join the tories? well in my view, um, i've was going to disagree with me, i'm sure, but but the priorities are twofold and immediate priorities. >> one is to prevent a socialist laboun >> one is to prevent a socialist labour, a victory in the next general election. >> and if that can't be prevented, then to retain a strong opposition , then to strong opposition, then to mitigate that victory . mitigate that victory. >> and the second thing which is connected and is to deliver on reducing immigration. >> and, you know, i have a i have an extensive track record in doing precisely that and in border management. >> and i felt that i could use my skills, my political knowledge, my political experience, and my technical experience, and my technical experience in trying to deal with borders at a strategic

level to try and help the conservative party. >> i think the conservative party are the only people at the moment who can do that. the conservative party are in government and if there's an election in october next year, what, nine, ten months away? um, so there is time to make an impact should the party wish to. now, having not been a member of any political party since 2018, um , i, i felt that , you know, um, i, i felt that, you know, there should not be a problem. i am a dyed in the wool conservative. i joined ukip when i did because of my belief that we were better off out of the european union. the conservative party was in a very different place at that time , and was not place at that time, and was not an appropriate for home me. and i worked to support the brexit campaign. the referendum campaign. the referendum campaign to leave . so, um , and campaign to leave. so, um, and now, you know, so that was the motive behind all of this, that i felt that we need to act now. we need to act decisively. um, on the on the centre right of british politics. the people to do that now are the conservative

party. they're failing to do it. i thought i might be able to help. well, why do you help. well, henry, why do you think you then? think they rejected you then? >> spoken. christopher >> you know. spoken. christopher hope profile hope mentioned high profile defect . peter. you know, isn't defect. peter. you know, isn't that a good enough reason as any not to have you on board? >> i don't know whether a defection quite right, defection is quite right, because i've not left a political party to try join political party to try and join the conservative party but the conservative party um, but i think what this says quite clearly rishi sunak clearly is that what rishi sunak has said to. to chris hope that the conservative party is a broad church is for the birds. >> and i think one of the reasons he's been saying that is because he has a referendum , a because he has a referendum, a rwanda vote coming up on the rwanda vote coming up on the rwanda bill, and he is trying to appease the right of the, appease the centre right of the, if you like, the real conservatives in the conservative party over that vote. >> and i think some people are want to believe him. >> well , they can't it is not a >> well, they can't it is not a broad church. it is not a conservative party under the way , under its present leadership and the way it's constituted . and the way it's constituted. >> the leadership of the conservative party needs to

change the constitution of the conservative party needs to change the constitution at the moment. >> i mean, look, you know, well, it sounds like you would have been a troublemaker, been a bit of a troublemaker, perhaps as a member. >> that's probably they >> that's probably why they didn't think? didn't either. do you think? >> does that say at all, >> does that not say at all, emily, that you know, i believe that purpose the that the purpose of the conservative any conservative party any any party, really, but certainly a conservative is to further conservative party is to further the interests of the united kingdom and the british people to confidence, optimism, to build confidence, optimism, prosperity living in these everybody living in these islands and to preserve our history, our heritage, our culture, institutions, as culture, our institutions, as the on which we the foundations on which we should society can grow and evolve. it is not out doing that. and i think honestly believe i got no response apart from a rejection . i've contacted from a rejection. i've contacted cchq three times asking why i've just. i've received no response whatsoever. they've not engaged with me at all. um, and i can only conclude that where i want to go to in the way that i've just described, um, is not where cchq and rishi sunak wants ,

cchq and rishi sunak wants, wants to go. if the conservative party are going to stand a chance in the next election, they don't need to be going after the centre ground. they need to be going after the traditional conservative cultural and social conservatives cultural and social conservative�*you make of this? why >> what do you make of this? why do you think conservative campaign headquarters have made the have? a >> they have? it's not a specialist subject mine. specialist subject of mine. >> appreciate both of you. >> do you think they were right to henry about? they were to or henry about? they were right empathy with him right to say empathy with him earlier. by the way, in outside. >> , it's a difficult >> um, look, it's a difficult decision for henry, but i'm not going to say that the tories should do this, this or that. it's thing. it's their thing. >> that situation, >> we had all that situation, you know, from the mid, uh, mid tens with, with people leaving the party because of the anti—semitism under jeremy anti—semitism underjeremy corbyn. and you know, that , corbyn. and you know, that, that, uh, change that we had to make , which keir starmer has led make, which keir starmer has led on since , uh, uh, april 2020 has on since, uh, uh, april 2020 has allowed us to bring people back in and people who've maybe left us. we've welcomed them back and i would say in a more general political thing than than

criticise . and conservative criticise. and conservative party is that i think that's where politics is right to bring allow people to rejoin. >> you see, you see the labour party has been welcoming people back and certainly there are high profile cases of people rejoining labour who rejoining the labour party who left the corbyn years. left under the corbyn years. there are also some pretty high profile of people on the profile cases of people on the left of the labour party being forced out the mayor of the of the north east, jamie driscoll, is a is a pertinent example. there are many more who would augn there are many more who would align themselves on the corbynite feel like corbynite wing, who feel like starmer has kicked them out with corbynite wing, who feel like sta|much as kicked them out with corbynite wing, who feel like sta|much excuse. d them out with corbynite wing, who feel like sta it's ch excuse. d them out with corbynite wing, who feel like sta it's ch eabout d them out with corbynite wing, who feel like sta it's ch eabout kicking out with >> it's not about kicking people out misbehave, if you , out if you misbehave, if you, um, if there is a situation in that you make comment on and that you make comment on and that that comment is outside the rules of the labour party, whatever those rules are in most times, then you can get expelled. we have expelled , you expelled. we have expelled, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people , for instance, in and people, for instance, in and around where i am just because they are anti—semites . and those they are anti—semites. and those people, we would not tolerate in

the party. so if we have to do that, then we do it in a proper way . it's dealt with by the way. it's dealt with by the legal people and then the people are expelled. >> but there is a lot of criticism. >> i'll just take that one example. tom that you just made. that's true . but the point with that's true. but the point with with that example of that particular mayor is he didn't get into the qualification for members voting . now that's members voting. now that's happened all over the country while we've been selecting candidates , and that happens candidates, and that happens when you get to the last thing your members are going to make a decision. we don't have to have people in there. >> is it just a little bit convenient that sometimes and this happened in the late 90s andifs this happened in the late 90s and it's happening again now that sometimes these selection shortlists sites, which are centrally chosen and then members get to vote , sometimes members get to vote, sometimes they seem to align very, very closely with the people right in the middle of the party. and perhaps there's been some criticism that there's not so much internal democracy anymore. >> i think i might put it

slightly differently . 2010, slightly differently. 2010, 2015, 2019 labour are completely out, out of the game and we have to make decisions then that are different and change things around. um, you know, i stood in a, you know, for, for people in, in hove , uh, for the candidacy in hove, uh, for the candidacy in hove, uh, for the candidacy in 1996. and won. i well, that's obvious, i won, but but the point is that i had to go through that as well. what the what the rules. now, do is make it the same. so in the 91 constituencies in the south east, of which i have a responsibility for in the party, then that means that all the entrances are being treated the same, and yet they all moan. by the way, that they're not every single constituency, that there isn't a current mp moans about what they're what they're being asked to. that's how it is in the you know, i mean, henry, what happens next? >> because i don't know in my mind, perhaps know rishi sunak mind, perhaps i know rishi sunak said . it's broad the said. it's a broad church. the party a broad and

party is a broad church, and i can understand can completely understand why you be disgruntled by this you might be disgruntled by this decision. i don't know if there's process. there's an appeals process. perhaps perhaps i've asked perhaps you perhaps i've asked three echr. perhaps you perhaps i've asked three responseir. perhaps you perhaps i've asked three response whatsoever. >> no response whatsoever. >> no response whatsoever. >> interesting , but i >> no response whatsoever. >> interesting, but i mean, >> it's interesting, but i mean, you clearly a huge you clearly don't have a huge amount well, maybe you amount of, uh, well, maybe you have for rishi sunak, have respect for rishi sunak, but you don't rate as leader. >> so do leaders . and this is >> so do leaders. and this is probably is not rishi sunak decision, of course. but is it probably not the best idea to have troublemakers as as members who have been, as i say, political in the past, the conservative party wants to deal with immigration and borders. >> well , i was with immigration and borders. >> well, i was described by durham university as one of the world's leading experts in developing and implementing national border strategies to do just this. um, the a previous prime minister put me forward for an obe for securing borders in other countries . so, you know in other countries. so, you know , but there's but outside that look, the conservative party has a problem at the moment. it is really sort of almost .

a problem at the moment. it is really sort of almost. going back to your point, tom, i think it's got what i would call a conservative wing , which are conservative wing, which are being called the right wing, which they're not. they're the conservative wing. >> and it has got what i would call a centrist wing, which are being called moderates . being called moderates. >> they're not moderate. if you know, damian green, you know, >> they're not moderate. if you knov notimian green, you know, >> they're not moderate. if you knov not a|ian green, you know, >> they're not moderate. if you knov not a moderate, you know, >> they're not moderate. if you knov not a moderate .you know, >> they're not moderate. if you knov not a moderate . he know, >> they're not moderate. if you knovnot a moderate . he istow, >> they're not moderate. if you knovnot a moderate . he is very, he's not a moderate. he is very, very passionate and digs his heels in incredibly firmly. >> he's so there's nothing moderate about him. >> henry might there be a there be an interesting point of view here which, which which might not be the immediately obvious one? uh, which is that people of your expertise and position are welcome in the conservative party but the conservative party might not want the sort of history that you come with having led ukip the profile of that , and having led ukip the profile of that, and frankly, having led ukip the profile of that , and frankly, the way having led ukip the profile of that, and frankly, the way in which you were forced out as ukip leader as well. yeah, indeed. >> which was partly the doing of the conservative party um, so , the conservative party um, so, you know, and i myself , if there

you know, and i myself, if there isn't absolutely no allegation against me that stuck none. i never said anything that was out of order. whether you call it racist or anything else, i have never written it. i've never uttered such, such words. um, and they know that. >> but there was the person you were associate with who said some things , and i removed some awful things, and i removed that person from the party. >> that person apologised. that's matter them . um, as that's a matter for them. um, as i see it. um, and fair enough. but, you know, even if you, if you, even if you take that as a, as a, as a rationale that was back at the beginning of 2018. okay. we are now six years down the road . the road. >> and, you know, we have priorities in this country, which i feel that i can contribute towards . contribute towards. >> and i, i feel that my i've always been a conservative. i joined ukip, as i said, because i was passionate about leaving the european union. the conservative party was in a very different place at that time on thatissue

different place at that time on that issue . um, and uh, i, that issue. um, and uh, i, i felt absolutely passionately that there's something that still missing, which is no politician, no leader has stood up and provided a vision for the united kingdom post brexit. this is what where we want to be 20, 25 years from now, for example. and this is the trajectory we need to follow to achieve that. >> the so that's that's something i was passionate something that i was passionate about to deliver. about trying to deliver. >> i, i kicked out effectively 6000 members who were anti—immigration , an anti—islam anti—immigration, an anti—islam and nothing else. i incurred the wrath of the national executive of ukip for doing it because they were tending that way. none of them supported me in the leadership election, although the so was the members did so i was fighting a battle with them. so i fighting. i was fighting. >> henry. ask >> want you, henry. i uh, ask richard tice. >> um, but no, i believe that at the moment the conservative party are the only people that can stop labour from winning the next general election. and they are right now the only party because they're in government that can deal with immigration and deal with some of the

serious border issues and other issues got. they're issues that we've got. they're in i wonder either is in power now. i wonder either is there an issue here? >> we're focusing a lot on what's on in the right of what's going on in the right of politics, while , the politics, all the while, the labour party has a higher vote share. if we believe the polls than reform and the tories put together . than reform and the tories put together. yeah. what's going on there? might the tories perhaps need to look more at why people are looking towards keir starmer, or is it just sort of, as some people allege, that while everyone else scraps, he can stand still and win by default? >> well, i don't think it's going to be by default. i think there is a genuine view in large parts of the country now that and we've seen it in by elections, for instance , in the elections, for instance, in the last six, nine months. and i think that shows that that labour has as a saying with those sort of groups of people who, as i said earlier, you know, if you look at the liberal democrats, obviously, if we're in second place in a seat and the liberal democrats are in third with maybe 20% of the vote, then that's where focus vote, then that's where we focus our aims and our ambitions in

order to try and win those seats. has succeeded . and seats. that has succeeded. and by elections are one thing. the general election is a completely different one. and as i've said before, on on here, you know , before, on on here, you know, not a single vote has been cast yet in the general election. we have to be conscious of that. there still in that, there is time still in that, whether it's in may or october and do i think labour will win? yes, i have every belief that labour will win . labour will win. >> now we're in our final minute. and henry, i know you wanted little word in wanted to get a little word in just briefly because just very briefly because emily asked what. just very briefly because emily askso what. just very briefly because emily askso what what. just very briefly because emily askso what next? what. just very briefly because emily askso what next? well,. just very briefly because emily askso what next? well, i'm going >> so what next? well, i'm going to continue to fight for conservative politics, social cultural conservatism in the united and for united kingdom and for furthering the interests of the united kingdom the british united kingdom and the british people that people writ large. and that includes of our our includes preservation of our our culture, heritage, our culture, our heritage, our our way life and way of life and our institutions. so to adapt and grow upon . but i think it's grow upon. but i think it's important also note , because important also to note, because we're about democracy, we're talking about democracy, that there is a problem with the conservative party already dodi before . of course, this is before this. of course, this is minor in comparison , in that

minor in comparison, in that they appointed a leader of the conservative party without even referring its members . the referring to its members. the constitution of the conservative party needs change. well, party needs to change. well, this if you can't this is because if you can't respect your respect democracy within your party, how can the. >> is something that comes >> this is something that comes up time and time again in the inbox? sure. we've inbox? that's for sure. we've got in the got lots more to come in the next thank very much, next hour. thank you very much, ivor course, ivor caplin. and of course, henry are lots henry bolton. there are lots more come gearing up more to come coming. gearing up for general election. for the next general election. this good afternoon britain this is good afternoon britain on . gb news. on. gb news. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of whether on gb news . whether on gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast blustery showers will continue for most of us during the rest of the day. some brighter spells and it will drier in the and it will turn drier in the south towards the end of the day. but for the time being, we've pressure in charge we've got low pressure in charge , the main storm, henk, , even if the main storm, henk, has moved off the scene around this we've got various this low, we've got various occluded fronts bringing some longer rain, but

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>> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on wednesday, the 3rd of january. >> no regrets. junior doctors ensign out there doing the right

thing as record breaking mass walkouts threaten to cripple hospitals during their busiest week of the year. but have these trade unionists abandoned their patients and their colleagues at their time of need? out of the traps reform uk becomes the first party to launch its general election campaign, claiming the labour party and the tories are two sides of the same socialist coin. >> we're live with our political editor with the latest luke versus luke . versus luke. >> will luke the nuke littler the 16 year old darts superstar, beat cool hand luke humphries. the world number one will be live at ally pally as excited crowds begin to gather. could littler score . littler score. big now ? now? >> how? this week is generally considered to be the busiest week of the year for the nhs because it's the week after the christmas period , the week after christmas period, the week after the christmas break. some people

have delayed other have delayed things, other people things people are just getting things checked you've checked out and of course you've got winter bugs, the got all the winter bugs, the flus, everything flus, the covid, the everything else flying around . it's else sort of flying around. it's the peak point of pressure for the peak point of pressure for the nhs. do you know what else this week is, emily? >> no, i don't, tom. the week that junior doctors have decided to strike for the longest walk out, for the longest period of time in nhs history. >> yeah, and it does sound like it's going to be absolutely catastroph , nick. catastroph, nick. >> hundreds of thousands of appointments and surgeries and, uh, key treatments just cancelled. just cancelled , i cancelled. just cancelled, i think a million plus just in the last year or so since these strikes started, lots of you have been getting in, getting in touch daily has had to say the junior doctors complain about a starting pay of around £15 per hour, starting pay of around £15 per hour , which is low because of hour, which is low because of all of their studying , but all of their studying, but everything they have learnt at university is mostly the theory. once released into once they're released into hospitals, they are like apprentices are learning apprentices who are learning their trade as well. i think one

of the massive issues is that huge level of debt they accrue through studying. so i've seen i've seen some junior doctors with £80,000 worth of debt . with £80,000 worth of debt. >> and then and then it doesn't really tick down. and effectively that adds 9% to their income tax. i mean, a lot, a lot of these issues might be fixed by, you know, cutting people's tax that that might help. but um, but uh, john has said the nhs deserves more money, but surely not at the mercy of patients. surely there must be another way of getting more pay , but not with striking. more pay, but not with striking. and yet the nhs has seen its pay seen, seen the amount that we spend on it rise by 40% in the last 13 years, 40. >> well, this is what annoys me. i think a lot of us at home would like some of that money to be going to pay going to frontline workers, but it's being, you know, used elsewhere for lots to say about nhs reform. i could talk about it all day. let us know what you think. have you been actually

affected or do you know people who have been affected by these junior doctor strikes, by these walkouts ? because look walkouts? because it does look as though thousands and thousands of appointments are going to be cancelled. we'll get on that and many more stories on to that and many more stories after headlines with after your headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gp newsroom . doctors from the gp newsroom. doctors have warned that medical profession roles may vanish from the nhs unless pay is dramatically improved and six days of industrial action began this morning after talks between the government and the bma union broke down. some of those striking have warned that countries, including australia , countries, including australia, are targeting them with advertising in an attempt to attract disgruntled british doctors to jobs overseas . junior doctors to jobs overseas. junior doctors to jobs overseas. junior doctors want a 35% pay rise, which would restore their real earnings to levels seen in 2008. the government says that's unaffordable , but insists the unaffordable, but insists the

door remains open for further negotiation. station doctor robert lawrenson is the bma's junior doctors committee co—chair. he says the strikes will continue until pay is improved. >> we're very happy to talk about restoring our pay over a matter of years. we're very happy to do that over a period of a time frame, and we don't necessarily need it all in one go. we're happy to sit down and have a collaborative conversation with the government, but they've pushed us out of the negotiation room. they want to talk with us. they don't want to talk with us. and the fact of the matter is, the rejected their pay the nurses rejected their pay deal the nurses rejected their pay deal. the nurses are still in dispute with the government and the government . and be the government. and to be honest, the country have honest, the whole country have abandoned colleagues abandoned our nursing colleagues as well . as well. >> meanwhile, commuters are being warned of severe travel disruption next week due to strike action on the london underground. members of the rmt union are staging another walkout over pay, with no services expected on the whole network from sunday until friday. talks between the union

and transport for london are continuing . this easter of a 16 continuing. this easter of a 16 year old boy who was stabbed while watching new year's fireworks in london has criticised false claims that he was part of a gang . harry pitman was part of a gang. harry pitman died after what police described as an altercation in as crowds gathered in london's primrose hill. his sister taylor, who's 19, posted a message on social media saying her brother was a good boy with a heart of gold and would not have been involved in violence . a 16 year old who in violence. a16 year old who was arrested at the scene has since been released under investigation. police are continuing their appeal for witnesses . hundreds of flood witnesses. hundreds of flood warnings remain in place after storm hank battered parts of the uk last night. storm hank battered parts of the uk last night . the west midlands uk last night. the west midlands ambulance service is warning people to take extra care after several people had to be rescued from flood from cars caught in flood waters. parts of birmingham, leicester northampton are leicester and northampton are particularly at risk of floods,

while transport delays are expected as clean up expected as the clean up continues. family was left continues. a family was left terrified, terrified more than 400ft in the air while riding the london eye. when strong winds ripped the hatch off their pod. meanwhile, a 50 year old man was killed when a tree fell on his car that he was driving in gloucestershire near. eurostar has been given a slap on the wrist by the advertising watchdog after promoting special fares that were available to very few people. the train company invited customers to soak up every second of summer with a european getaway forjust £39. but the advertising standards authority found only a very small portion of seats available at that price. describing the promotion as misleading. eurostar says it takes complaints seriously and will ensure the scenario doesn't happen again . more young people happen again. more young people are making the switch to non—alloy ecoholic drinks. a study carried out by yougov

found 44% of those aged between 18 to 24 consider themselves to be either occasional or regular drinkers of alcohol. alternative gives that's up from 31% in 2022. it also found younger generations are now the most sober age group overall, with 39% preferring not to drink at all. it's after a survey in november found 1 in 10 british drinkers feel they've got an unhealthy relationship with alcohol . and luke littler will alcohol. and luke littler will make history tonight when he becomes the youngest player to compete in the final of the world darts championship at just 16, when he beat rob cross six two, in the semi—finals last night. he showed nerves of steel as he closed out the match in style, continuing his dream run into tonight's big tournament when he takes on the new world number one luke humphries and the history making finalist had some words of wisdom for anyone who dreams of following him . who dreams of following him. >> unbelievable like i've

>> the unbelievable like i've only i only set my goals to win one game and come back after christmas and i'm still here. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> well, i don't have any gcses. >> everyone's probably got more than me. in fact, i did pass my sport, but . yeah. um. look, sport, but. yeah. um. look, young, young dart players, hopefully they do look up to me. and if you, if you do practice, then could be where i am . then you could be where i am. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to tom and . emily. to tom and. emily. >> now, major developments in the world of politics today, as all parties start to gear up for that 2024 election. >> us richard tice . he's been >> us richard tice. he's been hosting a reform uk press conference in london, where he slammed both rishi sunak and keir starmer. he slammed both rishi sunak and keir starmer . he accused the keir starmer. he accused the government of betraying the british people on immigration. he also announced ben habib as the party's candidate for the wellingborough by—election. >> meanwhile , sir ed davey of

>> meanwhile, sir ed davey of the liberal democrats is being laying his party's plans as laying out his party's plans as they currently sit at around 11% in the polls. he also refused to rule out a possible coalition with keir starmers labour party . with keir starmers labour party. >> well, our political editor christopher hope and political correspondent olivia utley join us now with the latest olivia. lots of liberal democrat action campaigning in guildford today. >> well, absolutely. the liberal democrats are usually very cheerful , it has to be said, but cheerful, it has to be said, but they did seem particularly cheerful this morning. here in guildford. guildford has a conservative majority of just over 3000. and the lib dems are very hopeful that they will be able to overturn that at the next election . they also have next election. they also have their eye on a number of other seats in surrey, some of which have much bigger conservative majorities. jeremy hunt's seat is in their eyeline . he has is in their eyeline. he has a majority of just over 8000, and so is michael gove's seat, who has a majority of just over 18,000. liberal democrats also

did not rule out a coalition with labour when asked about it. multiple times. and whatever the status of any sort of talks about a coalition, there does seem to be a sort of non—aggression pact between the lib dems and labour. so in seats like this, where labour is trailing behind in the polls, but the lib dems are doing pretty well, we're expecting labour not to put up too much of a showing the lib a showing that gives the lib dems a lot of the dems access to a lot of the southwest and the southeast east. that's bad. bad news for the conservatives. these these are their tory heartlands. places like surrey have always voted conservative. the fight now for the tories isn't just in those red wall seats . those those red wall seats. those seats that lent their votes to the tory in 2019. it's also fighting to retain their own heartlands. i was chatting to some people out in guildford today what they make of today about what they make of the next general election, who they want to see win. this is what they had to say. >> it's been a bit on and >> well, it's been a bit on and off recently. haven't been off recently. um, i haven't been , uh, following the conservative party uh, quite closely, but, uh

, i do support, uh , our prime , i do support, uh, our prime minister and our local conservative mp >> no. >> no. >> who would you like to see? >> who would you like to see? >> oh, labour. >> oh, labour. >> i'm a labour member for. >> i'm a labour member for. >> um. i was a teacher for a number of years, and i actually live in jeremy hunts constituency. he's actually a very good local mp, but i still won't vote for him . won't vote for him. >> i'm far prefer somebody >> no, i'm far prefer somebody else to win rather than the tories. >> uh, yes, i would . >> uh, yes, i would. >> uh, yes, i would. >> yeah, not really a very good job. >> but there's no one else to choose. >> unfortunately, unless something wonderful happens and somebody new pops up. but, uh , somebody new pops up. but, uh, it's the lesser of all the evils i >> -- >> um,i 5mm hum >> um, i think it's about time for a change. and uh, i would like to see what labour can do. >> i'd like someone else so i don't know, because it's all a shambles and it's all a mess. >> you know , it's . >> you know, it's. >> you know, it's. >> so probably the most positive message there for the conservatives was i don't think they've done a very good job, but there's no one else better.

pretty stark message here in guildford today . will that play guildford today. will that play out at a general election ? we'll out at a general election? we'll have to wait and see. >> oh, amazing. i love the woman who was a labour member but said , 0h, who was a labour member but said , oh, but jeremy hunt's very good, isn't he ? that was her. good, isn't he? that was her. >> but i absolutely not >> but i absolutely will not vote for him. chortle, chortle . vote for him. chortle, chortle. >> oh well olivia, thank you so much bringing us those much for bringing us those voices. there in the voices. uh, down there in the south—east. cross now south—east. let's cross now to westminster. christopher westminster. and christopher hope following hope, who's been following reform . they reform uk today. they >> that's right. tom and ellie reform uk setting out their plans in westminster. quite a full press conference showing interest from other journalists about what reform might do. maybe they were drawn there by the appeal of nigel farage. of course, the star of jungle course, the star of the jungle on party pulled out on itv. but the party pulled out a new tack here, attacking the labour party, talking about starmer geddon coming to a place near you. um, they're worried about the labour's lead in the polls . of course, if there were polls. of course, if there were an election tomorrow , it looks an election tomorrow, it looks like labour could win a landslide . and reform itself is

landslide. and reform itself is on ten points in the polls. most recently same the lib recently the same as the lib dems, are olivia. of dems, who are with olivia. of course , today. and the question course, today. and the question is what? how? what they do is what? how? what do they do next? really trying to next? they are really trying to target labour voters target disaffected labour voters and trying to boost that number towards 15% to become a real player at the general player at the next general election in the all the focus, though , despite the efforts by though, despite the efforts by mr tice, the leader, to talk about what it would do in government, and those policies include lifting the base rate of income tax to £20,000, uh, axing 5% of all government spending , 5% of all government spending, spending and trying to save money and having a one in, one out immigration policy. so those are the ideas they might try and do if they got into power, which is unlikely . do if they got into power, which is unlikely. um, but more the focus really was on nigel farage for many of the questions. what would do? i understand that would he do? i understand that it's going to it's unlikely we're going to hear about plans, whether hear about his plans, whether he might stand to be a might be trying to stand to be a candidate not, until as candidate or not, until as little two before the little as two months before the next election. next general election. and insiders more insiders tell me it's more likely he would seek have likely he would seek to have some kind overseeing role of some kind of overseeing role of the for the reform

the campaign for the reform party, rather than to to stand be an mp for the ninth time. it seems a lot of this is about teaching the conservatives a lesson, because presumably only the rise of reform , um, they're the rise of reform, um, they're not going to necessarily get an mp elected , but they will take mp elected, but they will take a lot of votes for the conservatives, which does make a labour government even more likely. >> so what is the actual benefit for small c conservatives? tom >> well, let's turn that. >> well, let's turn that. >> oh, is chris still there ? >> oh, is chris still there? >> oh, is chris still there? >> if i can, if you want me to answer yes, i mean, the point about reform is to draw the party, the tory party, back into the right of centre politics that they feel the party should be espouse . and hasn't been be espouse. and that hasn't been happening . of course, risk happening. of course, the risk is you do get maybe eight, is that you do get maybe eight, 9% of the vote in an election and zero mps. it happened, didn't it? back in 2015, when the party amassed millions of votes and just one mp moved , the votes and just one mp moved, the douglas carswell, who then

eventually flipped , went to a eventually flipped, went to a different party. so i do think that that's a real risk that maybe holding nigel farage is pen on agreeing to be a candidate. does he want to lose again for the ninth time or try and just oversee a party which will damage the tory will cause damage to the tory party >> and yet, isn't this one of the biggest problems reform >> and yet, isn't this one of the iif|gest problems reform >> and yet, isn't this one of the iif nigelyroblems reform >> and yet, isn't this one of the iif nigel farage,; reform >> and yet, isn't this one of the iif nigel farage, even eform >> and yet, isn't this one of the iif nigel farage, even nigel uk? if nigel farage, even nigel farage with the profile and the following that he has, is perhaps thinking behind the scenes, he couldn't win a seat under the reform uk banner. what hope does any other candidate have ? have? >> well , there could be >> well, there could be opportunities. i mean, ben habib was unveiled. he's the party's deputy deputy leader, unveiled as the party's candidate in the wellingborough by—election. now in the last comparable general election, the last planned 1 in 2015, ukip came second to peter bone of course, we don't know his plans yet . we and we expect his plans yet. we and we expect this wellingborough by—election in a seat held by 19,000 by bone at the last election to be held probably in late february or

early march. so that will be a real test, i think, in the party sees that as i was described to me by an insider as the canary in the coal mine, if they can see a big boost numbers in the coal mine, if they can see a then oost numbers in the coal mine, if they can see a then that numbers in the coal mine, if they can see a then that might|bers in the coal mine, if they can see a then that might change. there, then that might change. and indeed, the pole position and indeed, if the pole position changes. and indeed, if the pole position changes . liz. um, indeed, if changes. liz. um, and indeed, if were farage to come back and take over a leadership role in reform rather being the reform rather than being the honorary president, then it might party's support go might see the party's support go into into the low 20s. i mean, all things are possible at the moment in politics. we live in quite a fraught time, i should say, the way, that say, also, by the way, that rishi trying to rishi sunak has been trying to open to reform open overtures to reform supporters . he told us twice on supporters. he told us twice on gb news in october and december last that the party's last year that the party's a broad church. when i said would you farage as you accept nigel farage as a member ? well, we reveal today at member? well, we reveal today at lunchtime on your lunchtime today on on your programme, how henry programme, of course. how henry bolton, who was a who was chosen by nigel farage to succeed him as leader, um, back in as ukip leader, um, back in 2017, 2018, he's been denied a membership by richard holden , membership by richard holden, the party's chairman, which is quite interesting , i the party's chairman, which is quite interesting, i think, by how much the party really wants

to appeal to disaffected reform supporters. >> um , and of course, the fact >> um, and of course, the fact that , uh, >> um, and of course, the fact that, uh, henry bolton, the former ukip leader , not getting former ukip leader, not getting that membership that he's so craved as you were , uh, breaking craved as you were, uh, breaking in the last hour, uh, do you think that will have any impact ? think that will have any impact? >> well, i think for some people, i mean, henry charles told us, didn't he, that it shows this this suggestion that mr sunak welcomes those from the right is for the birds. um, we may see more on tax cuts at the budget in march. we may see even a pledge at the next election of the party to pledge to cut the tory party to pledge to cut taxes every year for five years, as was mooted in some reporting over the weekend. so that may change. but as things stand, renee on the right don't see themselves as comfortable with some of the policies that the tory party has got. but indeed, some those ideas is that some of those ideas is that reform today are reform offered today are probably . um, but probably unaffordable. um, but they might attract people as a

protest vote away from the tory party. and why i think party. and that's why i think not allowing henry bolton to join when he wants to help the tory party, he wants to be supportive, is interesting and will who think will question those who think the party is to right the party is open to right wingers like bolton . well wingers like bolton. well christopher hoag, thank you very much for bringing us all of that. >> it is feeling like this general election campaign is really getting underway . really getting underway. >> yes, indeed. now moving on. 16 year old darts sense sensation. >> we're going to hold that story because there is some new news coming in today , which is news coming in today, which is that two explosions have been heard, have been felt, have gone off in iran in, uh, let's cross now to our correspondent charlie peters to tell us more . at least peters to tell us more. at least 103 people killed . 103 people killed. >> and that's coming in from the in iran, a state aligned brawl caster there. this explosion happening in kerman, a city about.

happening in kerman, a city about . 820 kilometre southeast about. 820 kilometre southeast of tehran , the capital, and it's of tehran, the capital, and it's occurred at the tomb of former irgc command qassem soleimani, who was killed in a us drone strike four years ago today . so strike four years ago today. so a significant date on the anniversary of his death . the anniversary of his death. the irgc, the islamic revolutionary guards corps, is the asymmetric warfare unit of the iranian regime. he also commanded its quds force . now, this unit links quds force. now, this unit links the shia power with its allies and its proxies, not only in west asia but indeed around the world. it had links to europe and soleimani was a almost mystical figure in iran and throughout the middle east for his anti—american , often his anti—american, often so—called anti—imperialist resistance. but he was killed in that drone strike four years ago, as ordered by then president donald trump. and the significance of this explosion, which being described by which is being described by local governors as a terroristic

incident without further elaboration as that it comes less than 24 hours after the israelis launched a surgical strike on senior hamas leaders in a hezbollah stronghold in a southern suburb of beirut in lebanon , the lebanese capital, lebanon, the lebanese capital, some 5 or 6 people killed there by a drone strike. the idf would not confirm to me last night if they were involved in the attack, but it's hard to see who else could have actually conducted that kind of operation, or who indeed would have do so . so have the motive to do so. so this explosion happening in the last few hours on the fourth anniversary of soleimani's death, there are twin explosion as you said, tom. so the first explosion to have explosion appears to have happened some 800m away from the tomb . and then 15 minutes later, tomb. and then 15 minutes later, a second bomb has gone off this, uh, two attack method is common by the terror groups in to order attack emergency services as they attend the scene, it is a

particularly brutal strategy. now, who could have done this ? now, who could have done this? it's highly unlikely. i think , it's highly unlikely. i think, at this stage, for any foreign power to have deliberately carried out this attack. israel has conducted some attacks within iran in the last half decade or so, but those are usually surgical strikes related to iran's nuclear capabilities. they do not carry out these sort of mass mass casualty attacks on innocent civilians . so there's innocent civilians. so there's a realistic possibility at this time. and this is very soon after the bomb has gone off. of course, that this is involving internal strife. there are, of course, several challenges to the tehran regime. it is not the all powerful, much adored regime as it likes to present it. and since late 2022, there have been significant protests against tehran in particular after the death of 22 year old mahsa amini . that woman killed amid a wider revolutionary surge in protests

in favour of women's rights. i'll have all the latest throughout the program should this develop. >> thank you very much indeed, charlie peters, for bringing us that news. that latest news. >> absolutely fascinating >> it's absolutely fascinating because up until now, resistant movements within iran have been peaceful . it's been people peaceful. it's been people dancing in the streets in protests against laws. there but if this is turned into some sort of new threat that destabilise the region further, other questions, of course. could it be saudi arabia? could it be other, um, countries in the region that practice sunni rather than shia islam? there are lots and lots of questions. and, uh , no doubt we'll be we'll and, uh, no doubt we'll be we'll be digging around to find out precisely what could have caused this mass casualty. this mass. mass casualty. >> but coming up, >> yes, indeed. but coming up, we'll have the latest in the aftermath of storm henk here in the uk, numerous areas of the country are facing devastation and flooding, too. this is good afternoon, britain

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:26, two and 16 year old darts sensation luke littler produced another stunning display last night to reach the world's darts championship final , beating rob championship final, beating rob cross by 6 to 2. >> yes , littler is the youngest >> yes, littler is the youngest ever player to reach the final of the premier darts tournament and faces another luke luke

humphries in tonight's clash at ally pally. well joining us live from alexandra palace is our reporter, ray addison and ray. >> there's so much i don't think i've ever seen more exciting from the british public about a world darts championship . yeah world darts championship. yeah he's really caught the imagination of the entire uk . imagination of the entire uk. >> and in a matter of a few hours , this area where i am now, hours, this area where i am now, where we're standing, will be absolutely filled with up to 10,000 people all waiting to go through these doors here to watch the night. now this area, of course, will have been absolutely packed with revellers last night after that amazing surprise win . uh, somebody surprise win. uh, somebody leaving behind their glow stick . leaving behind their glow stick. i've nicked that. i'm going to get the party started a little bit later on. we look over to bit later on. if we look over to our right hand side, just our right hand side, we can just see, amazing view that a see, uh, the amazing view that a lot of people come here to see as well. from alexandra palace, that over north london. that view over north london. thenif that view over north london. then if we around as well,

then if we pan around as well, we can these banners we can see these banners that people to see as they're people get to see as they're coming in. there's none for, uh, luke nuke littler , but we've luke the nuke littler, but we've got nathan the asp. aspinall and then to the left there. then over to the left there. we've got, uh, we've peter, we've got, uh, we've got peter, snakebite wright rob voltage snakebite wright and rob voltage cross cross, who cross of course. rob cross, who was beaten in the semi—final last night at six two. rather stunning fashion . uh, by luke. stunning fashion. uh, by luke. um as he showed quite surprising maturity for his age. of course . maturity for his age. of course. just 16 i think. nine, 18 days off his 17th birthday, he got 16 treble, 20 and he produced three 130 plus checkouts as well. and of course he qualified back in november when he won the world youth championship . and now, of youth championship. and now, of course, this is just one win for him. one win tonight would seal his world championship dream . of his world championship dream. of course, he is the youngest ever player to reach the final of the. what is the premier darts tournament in the world now? his opposition . if he wants to win, opposition. if he wants to win, he's got to get past luke

humphries first. he's 28 years old. he is the world number one. in fact, he became the world number one while he was competing. and while he was winning here in those victories that he had , um, he came into that he had, um, he came into this tournament by winning three of the last four majors in darts , and he absolutely whitewashed scott williams six nil in his semi—final. so he is in very, very good form at as well. however, a lot of the crowd, as you were saying, guys, 10,000 of them could well be cheering for luke littler . luke littler. >> i really, really fascinating . >> i really, really fascinating. >> i really, really fascinating. >> and he's going to he could win a whopping 500,000 big ones, couldn't he ? if he wins . couldn't he? if he wins. >> yeah, absolutely . and what an >> yeah, absolutely. and what an amazing prize that would be for amazing prize that would be for a young man . amazing prize that would be for a young man. but that amazing prize that would be for a young man . but that would just a young man. but that would just be the tip of the iceberg as well. i'm hearing that people are starting to talk about the potential movie rights for this, and who could play him in the

movie? uh, maybe james corden, somebody like that. i'd be interested to see what you guys think as well. but it's sure, it's it's sure to be, uh, it's sure. it's sure to be, uh, one of those things that's in the cards we've seen with other players, young players doing remarkable like emma remarkable things like emma raducanu. remarkable things like emma raducanu . and this just the raducanu. and this is just the latest and it's really caught the imagination of the whole of the imagination of the whole of the he also being the uk, isn't he also being offered, uh, kebabs for life? >> maybe there's a long time partnership there . absolutely fantastic. >> ray anderson , thank you so >> ray anderson, thank you so much for bringing us all of that. i have to say though, if i was luke littler, 16 year old luke littler and james corden, he must be going on now he must be going on 40 now because was chosen to play me. i might be a little bit a little bit annoyed by that, but no. fascinating. you seen. fascinating. have you seen. >> i don't think he'll be annoyed anything. i mean, annoyed about anything. i mean, if happy days, if he wins this happy days, happy days. >> we say half >> although we say it's half a million, the tax million, it's not really the tax rate in the uk. it's half that. >> even if it's >> oh really? even if it's a prize. oh. >> oh really? even if it's a prizah,)h. >> oh really? even if it's a prizah, that's really good point. >> is it taxed . let us know.

>> is it taxed. let us know. >> is it taxed. let us know. >> we'll find out. and bring that to uh, but but before that to you. uh, but but before all of that, going get all of that, we're going to get to on the show, to much more on the show, including returning to this story a un charity picking story about a un charity picking a transgender model as one of its uk champions. lots of you have been getting in touch about that. have been getting in touch about that . more to come after your that. more to come after your headunes that. more to come after your headlines with tatiana . headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you. 231 this is the latest from the gb news room. doctors are warning that medical professionals may vanish from the nhs unless pay is dramatically improved. six days of industrial action began this morning after talks between the government and the bma union broke down. some of those striking say countries, including australia, are targeting them with advertising in an attempt to attract disgruntled british doctors to jobs overseas . junior doctors jobs overseas. junior doctors want a 35% pay rise, which would restore their real earnings to levels seen in 2008, the government says that's

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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news choose . news choose. >> okay, well, earlier we brought you the story that women's rights groups have criticised charity un women uk for selecting a transgender model as its uk champion for women's rights . now we have women's rights. now we have received a lot of views and that is an understatement . received a lot of views and that is an understatement. uh, received a lot of views and that is an understatement . uh, lots is an understatement. uh, lots and lots of views coming in, derek says. until a man can undergo complete surgery to enable procreation, that man is still a man . enable procreation, that man is still a man. um, gene enable procreation, that man is still a man . um, gene says enable procreation, that man is still a man. um, gene says i'm totally insulted . this person is totally insulted. this person is a trans woman. no problem with that. but not a woman . that. but not a woman. >> uh, whereas melanie has said that trans women are women. uh, simple as. and harry has said that trans people are human beings. and as long as they abide by the law, they deserve respect . respect. >> well, there you go. and also, i got a very angry email,

actually, um, someone who's mistaken me for emily thornberry actually , and said that i showed actually, and said that i showed my bigotry, which i would absolutely tightly deny and say that i have absolutely no problem with transgender people exist , saying problem with transgender people exist, saying and having the same rights as everyone else. but i do think that, uh, perhaps, perhaps biological women would have been better placed for this particular role. >> emily, i think you're you're many things. and you have many attributes and talents, but attributes and many talents, but i didn't realise that you were also shadow shadow attorney general . uh, which i believe is general. uh, which i believe is emily thornberry's current role. i mean, that's a remark . well, i mean, that's a remark. well, shall we up this to our shall we open up this to our panel? course. joining us panel? of course. joining us again is henry bolton, the former ukip leader and the former ukip leader and the former labour mp , ivor caplin. former labour mp, ivor caplin. uh, now now, ivor, this has created a lot of consternation in the inbox. we've read out perhaps what wasn't quite a representative sample. i think more people were, uh, emailing in saying maya forstater saying

that the un women uk group should not have chosen a transgender model as one of its ambassadors . ambassadors. >> yeah, well, look, the un is the un and it's allowed to choose whoever it likes. and that's not a matter for the uk government or anyone else really. and they tend to appoint people who have experience and history within which i think this particular woman does have some experience of working with the un, i think 4 or 5 years ago. so it's not unusual that people get that. um, just let me say a bit about the trans issue. i think it's way, way overplayed. i mean , in brighton overplayed. i mean, in brighton and hove we have the biggest trans community in the united kingdom , and we're very happy kingdom, and we're very happy city. and, you know, we say to all trans people and anyone else who wants to comment on any of these things that look , everyone these things that look, everyone is individual. everyone is a person. and that should be the principle of that. and that in general terms, seems to work , general terms, seems to work, uh, across, across the board in,

in brighton, hove. i'm sure people can ring in and say, no, i live in brighton and it's not the case, but we're not talking about individuals. we're talking about individuals. we're talking about the greater good of what goes on in a city. i think you're absolutely right. >> i think you're absolutely right that most people are live and let live, and it does not bother all. this issue bother them at all. this issue in practice, their to day in practice, in their day to day lives, transgender community are very, very small community. >> i will ask emily thornberry about it though. henry. there are there are areas, there are areas policy and the way areas of policy and the way women's rights versus transgender rights can interplay , which make things rather a bit more complicated , which is why more complicated, which is why you nse more complicated, which is why you rise of groups like you have the rise of groups like sex who worry about sex matters, who worry about women sports. sex matters, who worry about worcan sports. sex matters, who worry about worcan i sports. sex matters, who worry about worcan i say)rts. sex matters, who worry about worcan i say one thing about >> can i say one thing about women's spaces about this? >> this is actually >> because this is actually quite critical in that most quite critical in that the most of the people who are worried about the sporting issues in particular, are people who have a history in sport , but the a history in sport, but the numbers are tiny , absolutely numbers are tiny, absolutely tiny , the numbers. and so it's

tiny, the numbers. and so it's not about ordinary people who wish to be transgender men or women. it's actually about the sport issue. and i think if we focussed on that, then sport, all the sports can deal with thatissue all the sports can deal with that issue and deal with it. >> but for a long time people were told that it was bigotry to even talk about the issue of transgender women in sports and about how there might be an unfair advantage. the debate has opened up now quite a lot, where you've had a lot of female athletes talking about it, not least sharron davies, but a lot of others talking about how there an unfair advantage. there is an unfair advantage. and debate shifted and so the debate has shifted because have been quite because there have been quite a lot of brave and vocal women who have come out and said actually, this isn't fair. >> i don't think it is fair. and |, >> i don't think it is fair. and i, i, i agree that the numbers are very small and but the problem is that actually it is unfair . for problem is that actually it is unfair. for and to me it is the active , honest community which active, honest community which again is small, uh, dominating the agenda and actually , um,

the agenda and actually, um, creating a situation in sport where women who were born female are disadvantaged , there's no are disadvantaged, there's no doubt about that. and i rather feel that about the un women uk who've appointed this, this lady as, as their rep resentative for women, their uk representative , women, their uk representative, a champion for women . a champion for women. >> um, look, i'm, i'm sorry. >> and i may get a lot of criticism, but i don't think she is a woman. >> she has had phd surgery, hormonal treatment , whatever. hormonal treatment, whatever. >> i'm not an expert on this. to change her, but that's, you know, that doesn't make you a woman in all respects . and if woman in all respects. and if you're not a woman in all respects, people talk about the lived experience. >> well, fine. be a representative for transgender women , you know, in that sense. women, you know, in that sense. but but not for women because you haven't had that lived experience of going through, you know, as a female , as i haven't know, as a female, as i haven't through, through female puberty and all the rest of it and all the various things that go on.

>> i think the point, henry, we could about this could argue about this all afternoon. but afternoon. we could. but but i think in general terms with the numbers, i've just and numbers, as i've just said, and the is at its the fact that sport is at its height really in this matter across the uk and across other countries, of course , but i countries, of course, but i think in the general terms of someone un, the someone working for the un, the first principal there is first and principal there is someone who is capable of doing that kind of job. and i think any woman is. i agree that should be the principle, but i wonder, i would question and this is the problem, isn't it? >> i would question often that she is now . it's for the >> i would question often that she is now. it's for the un to make the appointments they make. >> but if you like, from a political point of view , surely political point of view, surely you've got think about the you've got to think about the implications often. and i suspect that what un women uk are do here advance are trying to do here is advance the cause of . transgender the cause of. transgender transgenderism, rather than advance the cause of women . advance the cause of women. >> i might be speaking. >> i might be speaking. >> that's how i feel about it. >> that's how i feel about it. >> i might be revealing my ignorance here, but i think i

think that does a disservice to women and to the trans gender community because it creates this skewed kind of this emphasis where the numbers are small, that we actually give it undue attention. i might be revealing my ignorance here, but i can't name a single other un, un women uk champion for any yeah un women uk champion for any year. i wonder if i didn't even know they existed exactly, exactly. not women, i wonder. i mean , this this seems like this mean, this this seems like this is this is a this is a post that has presumably existed for some years literally no one in years that literally no one in the media has noticed or talked aboutis the media has noticed or talked about is the point is the point perhaps, that people are talking about this? >> i don't think you understand. as three men on this panel, how some as though being some women feel as though being a woman, a biologic woman, is being erased . that might sound being erased. that might sound like hyperbole , but you see it like hyperbole, but you see it when we talk about the point, emily. >> that's my point is, if you want a representative of women, get a woman who's always been

female to do the job. >> but also, i don't have any problem. >> i think it demeans women. i don't have any problem with the transgender woman having a position, and i don't even i'm not even bothered. not even that bothered. particularly case of particularly about this case of the it's broader the charity. it's the broader question talking about things question of talking about things as they are and reality . let me as they are and reality. let me just that's what that's what gets me. >> sorry, emily, i was just about to say that this matter actually broke about three months un, un and in months ago in the un, un and in british press . but months ago in the un, un and in british press. but i months ago in the un, un and in british press . but i see that british press. but i see that the telegraph finally thought it should run the story with something from one of its. well there was a there was a letter, there was a there was a letter, there was a letter written by a number of. >> yeah, yeah. um, we do actually have some news. just come in now . so which is that come in now. so which is that a 15 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of the murder over the death of this 16 year old harry pitman in primrose hill, north london, on new year's eve. this tragic, tragic incident .

tragic incident. >> yes. so 15 year old boy has been arrested and on suspicion of murder over the death of 16 year old harry pitman . that was year old harry pitman. that was in primrose hill, north london, on new year's eve. >> henry bolton , a 15 year old. >> henry bolton, a 15 year old. this is shockingly young. >> it is shockingly young and what we are seeing across the country, but mainly in our cities and particularly in london, is we are seeing a horrific rise in knife crime. we're seeing a huge rise in in gang related crime and at the at the older end of the offenders in the sort of 1920s, um , it in the sort of 1920s, um, it we're seeing it very much related to drugs. um, there's a gang culture that's growing. we are not dealing with it. we have we all know it's there. and as a former police officer, some of us were warning about this 20, 25 years ago. >> and it's still not being recognised for what it is, particularly, i feel, in london. >> and i think that's there's a

real problem. it's the victims and the offenders are becoming younger and younger and younger and, you know, we've society needs to deal with this . needs to deal with this. >> the politicians and i'm not being party political about this. >> the politicians, the police , >> the politicians, the police, the schools, the families and the schools, the families and the communities as well, the schools, the families and the communities as well , because the communities as well, because there is a habit. and i say this again, as a police officer, even 20, 25 years ago of communities trying to blame everybody else , trying to blame everybody else, um, were actually i'm old fashioned. i think that the community and the families also have a role to play in making sure that people of this age understand that it is utterly unacceptable to be behaving in this way, to be carrying a knife, or to be part of a gang. but it seems to be what you expect your children to do. >> yeah, i it does feel like a lot of young people, young boys in particular, probably quite fearful of walking and walking about and that's why there's so

much carrying of knives going on. >> on. >> this is a terrible case. >> this is a terrible case. >> uh, let's just say that i think henry is broadly right. i think henry is broadly right. i think there are issues. obviously, in london you've got 9 million people. you've got, obviously, in london you've got 9 mknow,3eople. you've got, obviously, in london you've got 9 mknow, morez. you've got, obviously, in london you've got 9 mknow, more problems|ot, obviously, in london you've got 9 mknow, more problems than , you know, more problems than, than, than anyone else has. and the police much as they the police do as much as they can. but it is very , very can. but it is very, very difficult to find a way to getting this right with that group of people. i'd say 14 to 18 would be a real target group . 18 would be a real target group. i don't know how we can do that at the moment, i have to say, and i don't think politicians do, just being realistic both at westminster and elsewhere. >> not just an issue for >> it's not just an issue for politicians, it? as henry politicians, is it? as henry said, their families , as said, their families, as parents, i mean wider community. >> i think there's too much the police a, um, a police have taken a, um, a police have taken a, um, a police liaison community approach to far, i think. i think there needs to be and i think there needs to be and i think we've had this discussion on a previous occasion . there on a previous occasion. there needs to be respect for the police, and that means that when you cross the line , when you cross the line, when somebody comes down on you with

a ton of bricks, um, um, but everything is done to make sure that you know, where that line is. >> um is.- >> um , is. >> um , but that it doesn't happen. >> there seems to be no line , >> there seems to be no line, particularly some might even say we need to be tough on crime . we need to be tough on crime. >> um, as well as being tough on the causes of crime. either you were elected under that slogan. >> i can't think where that came from. moore on a like from. tom moore on a day like this. nevertheless, this. um, but but nevertheless, i you know, at the i think it was you know, at the time, it was right. think it's time, it was right. i think it's still right today. and i think most, you know, people in westminster parts of westminster and other parts of the that true. the uk would say that is true. and have to do something. i and we have to do something. i don't know what the answer is. and i don't know. it's a very, very, very sad difficulty with stop and search. >> that's still a contentious issue. >> um, and, and you know, when i was policing , there was a was policing, there was a situation where, uh, police chiefs were losing their jobs. chief constable's because they were speaking out that different types of crime often related to

different communities . different communities. >> cause that's not saying one community was worse or. but but so one community might be more active in the vehicle crime area , another in the in the class b drugs area, another in a class a drugs area, another in a class a drugs area. so it's a it's just one of those things. and it vanes one of those things. and it varies from, from city to city. but if you can't, if you're not allowed to talk about that, then how how can you actually address that ? that is how how can you actually address that? that is a how how can you actually address that ? that is a fact of how how can you actually address that? that is a fact of crime and of policing . and you've got and of policing. and you've got to recognise it. and because otherwise you can't engage with those communities in the right way, you can't take the appropriate policing measures to counter it, both in a prevention and sort of from a prevention point of view and from dealing with the detections and the subsequent arrests and charging and so on. so we've got to have and so on. so we've got to have a more frank and honest conversation about this, rather than steering away from it and saying, well, you know, the white community is, you know, we can't talk about what they're doing. >> we can't talk about what the

pakistani community is doing or the west indian community or the whatever, because they may take offence and then they'll get all, you know, whatever they're is a fear of the response from communities which i think is deterring an honest debate. >> and there therefore is an obstacle to addressing, well, something massive is certainly going wrong at the moment with this spate of very violent crimes from very young people. >> but we should say that we don't know the details other than the fact that this is a 15 year old generic in we've talked very generic and. yes, but but i suppose one of the shocking things other than the very young age of the perpetrator who has been charged here, is the fact that this happened on primrose hill, a place where 100 thousands of had gathered hill, a place where 100 th

cetera. we will find out more about this. it's very worrying when , you know, people are when, you know, people are people are enjoying themselves. family were probably all together. you know, he's 15, 16 and this happens . it's terrible and this happens. it's terrible to think of. but we're seeing a lot of this in public spaces . lot of this in public spaces. >> i mean on the streets, in shops. it's um, you know, we're seeing blatant shoplifting , you seeing blatant shoplifting, you know, people simply walking into shops, filling their arms with things and walking out. yeah um, there is this there is this a lack of shame? >> there's a lack of shame. >> there's a lack of shame. >> there's a lack of respect for the fact that these belongings , the fact that these belongings, these are belongings belonging to somebody else. and there's a cost implication in for people, often there's an emotional element, even if a shopkeeper if your if your shop is subject to a crime like that, then it's traumatic and i know that because i've tried to help people of victims of these things in the past, but how do you build sense of you build up that sense of respect of order of being a

civilised member of society ? civilised member of society? >> very, very difficult to know. however much you do in schools. it's what's happening outside of schools . it's not the schools schools. it's not the schools themselves. i think schools generally have a great reputation of helping young people to understand what they should and shouldn't do, but when get outside , there's when they get outside, there's not that necessary . not that necessary. >> if someone's just written in to say , we've almost become numb to say, we've almost become numb as a result of all these the knife, the knife crimes, the knife, the knife crimes, the knife crimes are really, really violent and horrible things compared almost to anything else that we've ever seen. >> and stabbing injuries are , >> and stabbing injuries are, are particularly nasty in all sorts of sort of. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the more physical trauma man ways as well . but i think ways as well. but i think there's , there is something there's, there is something called the boiled frog syndrome , called the boiled frog syndrome, which is, which is a horrible expression i won't go into. >> describe it slowly. >> describe it slowly. >> happens is something >> what happens is something terrible happens and you think, god, that's terrible. and then it again and that's

it happens again and that's terrible. and then gradually it becomes commonplace and you becomes commonplace and you become numb to it. >> i'm afraid we are running to the end of the show, but, uh, ivor henry, thank you so ivor and henry, thank you so much talking us through all much for talking us through all of issues. course, of those big issues. of course, henry ukip henry bolton, the former ukip leader, ivor caplin, former leader, and ivor caplin, former labour . we'll be back, of labour mp. we'll be back, of course, tomorrow at 12. up next, it's daubney . looks like it's martin daubney. looks like things are heating up . things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . hello >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. hello again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast blustery showers will continue most during continue for most of us during the day. some the rest of the day. some brighter and it will turn brighter spells and it will turn dner brighter spells and it will turn drier the south towards the drier in the south towards the end of the day. but for the time being, we've pressure in being, we've got low pressure in charge, the main storm, charge, even if the main storm, henk, has moved off the scene around this low. we've got various occluded fronts bringing some longer spells rain , but some longer spells of rain, but in it's blustery showers in general it's blustery showers as we head into the evening, some clear spells emerging,

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