cooker beat the pressure cooker environment and walked away with half £1 million. despite the crowd not being on his side . how crowd not being on his side. how did he do it.7 we'll find out. >> can't wait for that. the epstein files prince andrew has been named in newly released court documents detailing connections of the late paedophile sex offender jeffrey epstein, a royal correspondent, cameron walker. he has more reporter yet prince andrew's not the only one. >> bill clinton , michael jackson >> bill clinton, michael jackson among other famous names in these so—called epstein files. but will this cause further embarrassments to the royal family we find out shortly . family we find out shortly. >> and starmer strategy. labour leader sir keir starmer will set out his election stall this morning, telling you that his party will end your despair. do you think he will.7 you'll have to watch it here to find out and to watch it here to find out and to hear what we think. so speech to hear what we think. so speech to reform uk leader richard tice set out the party's policies yesterday, but did he fail to inspire the public? >> their newly announced candidate in wellingborough by—election benabib joins us and

fat cat pay, bosses of britain's biggest companies, will earn more by 1 biggest companies, will earn more by1 p.m. biggest companies, will earn more by1 pm. today than biggest companies, will earn more by 1 pm. today than the typical worker will earn all yeah >> hard work should surely be rewarded , but has the gap rewarded, but has the gap between the haves and the have nots completely rolled out of control? let us know your thoughts this morning , won't you? did you morning, won't you? did you watch the darts i caught a bit of it, yes, which is about as much as i was ever going to watch. >> but actually, i'm not completely disappointed. no uh, the little the younger . yeah. the little the younger. yeah. >> luke the littler. >> luke the littler. >> yeah. or luke the littler. because i think the other guy had been around a long time, and he was the man the night. >> yeah, well, we're going to be talking to him. humphries talking to him. luke humphries i'm excited about this. i'm very excited about this. i did managed to watch the did watch managed to watch the darts. darts i've darts. first darts match i've ever mind, i'm ever watched. i don't mind, i'm missing was just missing that. and it was just superb. did in

superb. but how did he cope in that environment? us know that environment? let us know what thought if you saw it what you thought if you saw it gb gb news. com and how gb views at gb news. com and how excited andrew, about excited are you, andrew, about keir speech? excited are you, andrew, about keiion speech? excited are you, andrew, about keiion a speech? excited are you, andrew, about keiion a scale;peech? excited are you, andrew, about keiion a scale;pe1:h? excited are you, andrew, about keiion a scale;pe1 to’ excited are you, andrew, about keiion a scale;pe1 to 10, >> on a scale of 1 to 10, probably about one and a half, because not because i suspect he will not flesh the bones on what flesh out the bones on what he's going is going to tax going to do. is he going to tax us more? how's he going to spend for all these green? he for all these green? how's he going for the going to raise the money for the green policies? i suspect to be warm platitudes and warm words and platitudes and i think of those think we heard a few of those yesterday the leader yesterday from the leader of reform tice. reform uk, richard tice. >> going to be talking >> and we're going to be talking to habib. don't go to ben habib. so don't go anywhere much to through anywhere so much to get through between us between now and midday. let us know your thoughts. gb views at gb is the first gb news. com is the email first though, with very latest though, with your very latest news here's tatiana news headlines, here's tatiana sanchez. >> beth, thank you very much. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. prince andrew donald trump and bill clinton are just some of those named in us court documents detailing connections of sex offender jeffrey epstein . of sex offender jeffrey epstein. the documents named dozens of epstein's associates, although many of them are not accused of

any wrongdoing. they include. references to joanna zuckerberg, who has claimed the duke of york touched her inappropriately while sitting on a couch inside epstein's manhattan apartment in 2001. it's all part of a 2015 defamation case made by virginia guthrie against ghislaine maxwell, an associate of epstein . a man has been arrested and remains in custody after multiple gunshots were fired in liverpool last night. a major incident was declared as armed officers launched a manhunt. a 49 year old was arrested on suspicion of possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life and robbery . merseyside life and robbery. merseyside police said it received reports of shots coming from a shop and further incidents outside a cinema and nearby property in the croxteth and norris green areas of the city. no one was injured in any of the incidents . injured in any of the incidents. more than 20 requests have been made by hospitals in england for striking junior doctors to return to work, due to extreme

pressure and patient safety fears. the six day walkout, the longest in nhs history, began yesterday in a long running dispute over pay . none of the dispute over pay. none of the requests have been granted so far. the british medical association has accused nhs bosses of bowing to political pressure, undermining the strikes . it says the process of strikes. it says the process of doctors returning to work due to unexpected and extreme circumstances is at risk of collapse because nhs bosses are failing to follow it . the collapse because nhs bosses are failing to follow it. the number of people putting their homes up for sale hit a record high on boxing day property website rightmove said just over 10,000 new properties came onto the market. the biggest number of people selling since 2011. the number of buyers contacting estate agents about homes for sale also jumped and was 17% higher than boxing day . in 2022. higher than boxing day. in 2022. and luke littler says he has what it takes to return to win

the world championship in the future . after he was denied a future. after he was denied a fairytale victory last night. the teenage darts sensation missed out on that historic win after losing to the new world number one luke humphries, who beat him seven four. it's the landmark success for humphries, who's now won four of the last five major tournaments . littler five major tournaments. littler said the last few weeks are beyond what he imagined. >> i just wanted to win one game, come back after christmas and that was it. that's the only goals i set. so this is just a massive, massive bonus. no one likes losing and i've not. not really lost much, but to lose on that stage, you can't be angry at yourself. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news.com. >> now back to andrew and . bev. >> now back to andrew and. bev. >> now back to andrew and. bev. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. well, he's the labour leader keir starmer. it's his big turn today. we had reform party

yesterday. the lib dems with a fabulous exciting poster fabulous new exciting poster which i've already forgotten what says . what it says. >> starmer kicked rishi >> but keir starmer kicked rishi out. move him out. something like that. >> i'm the removal man. he's in his white keir is his white van. keir starmer is going speech going to make a major speech this he's going to this morning, and he's going to pledge hope to what he pledge to bring hope to what he calls exhausted britain and calls an exhausted britain and rid connections . i rid himself of connections. i don't about that . in his don't know about that. in his speech, he's going to say , well, speech, he's going to say, well, he's to say that his party he's going to say that his party is no longer a party of gesture politics the prime politics and accuse the prime minister of pointless populist ism, pointless populist gimmicks. he's also going to put blue water or red water between him and the former labour leader , jeremy corbyn. uh, tricky. when he served in jeremy corbyn's shadow cabinet for four years, when dozens of shadow ministers resigned from corbyn's shadow cabinet because corbyn was so awful, starmer stuck it out. >> the thing is, i think the british public, if we're not careful, are going to get election fatigue. if they all start, if we don't have an election till november, october, november, i think that you at

home are going to start zoning out on people like keir starmer. if they start coming out now, pitching for your vote. but it might be may . and so maybe he's might be may. and so maybe he's got very little time to pitch for um, but i'm not for your vote. um, but i'm not sure there's an awful lot that he now that would he can say right now that would appeal to your core labour voter. who are they going to voter. who are they going to vote for? and he needs to steel some people from the conservatives who are fed up of how it feels. the country at the moment is bit depressed. moment is, is a bit depressed. it's that he chose it's interesting that he chose the . i think the word exhausted. i think that's a of people do feel. >> e'- e had in in may or june >> we've had in in may orjune or whatever it is the tories were in power for 14 years. that's a very long time and a lot of people are fed up. and are they doing a job? not are they doing a good job? not terribly. the polls. terribly. look at the polls. >> there's rumour that he's >> there's a rumour that he's going about labour going to talk about labour offering tax cuts, which how are they pay for them. they going to pay for them. quite. um and we'll see how he comes across personally , of comes across personally, of course, because we've said it time time again show time and time again on this show that unfortunately doesn't that unfortunately he doesn't really alight ,

really set the nation alight, does he. >> he he sounds like a robot. and that's a disadvantage in an increasingly presidential era where people look to, i mean, blair had oodles of charisma with he agreed with them or not. he incredibly exciting in he was incredibly exciting in 1997, and he won by a landslide. and he's no blair. is he? >> not at all. but let us >> no, not at all. but let us know your thoughts morning. know your thoughts this morning. we that in we will be taking that speech in about so. i think it about an hour or so. i think it is. it might be a little bit after but lots more as after that, but lots more as well get through morning well to get through this morning . kicking under . oh, sorry. i'm kicking under the prince andrew is back in the >> prince andrew is back in the headunes >> prince andrew is back in the headlines just days he headlines just days after he appeared alongside the king and other members other senior members of the royal family at sandringham christmas because has christmas day. because he has been named in those us been expected named in those us court documents detail ailing connections of the late sex offender, the paedophile. that's what was jeffrey so what he was jeffrey epstein so ghislaine maxwell told her lawyers that she was worried about questioned about being questioned over her relationship with prince andrew. others named in the files are bill clinton and donald trump . bill clinton and donald trump. uh, they've been named in court documents. neither of them , documents. neither of them, however, have been accused of

doing anything illegal. >> so we're going to be talking now to, course, our royal now to, of course, our royal correspondent, walker , correspondent, cameron walker, to impact this might to see what impact this might have royal family. good have on the royal family. good morning no real morning cameron. no real surprise that prince andrew is in but what else we in here, but what else have we have learned might have we learned that might be damaging him? damaging to him? >> say, no real surprise . >> as you say, no real surprise. there's bombshell. there's no major bombshell. i can see at this stage to do with prince andrew. but the difference is we've heard prince andrew court andrew named in these court files lots of newspaper files via lots of newspaper publications over the last 6 or 7 years. the difference now is that all of these allegations are in sworn testimony in court documents, which is a whole nother level . so i suppose the nother level. so i suppose the main allegations , one of which main allegations, one of which is from, um , a girl called miss is from, um, a girl called miss shoberg , and she alleges that shoberg, and she alleges that prince andrew touched her breasts while posing with us. his spitting image puppet in jeffrey epstein's new york mansion in 2001. now this had come out in media, um, before hand, which is one of the reasons why the judge decided to release these documents into the pubuc release these documents into the public domain. but of course ,

public domain. but of course, it's now in sworn, uh , testimony it's now in sworn, uh, testimony from this, which gives it another level of validity and veracity, doesn't it? >> and she was 20 at the time. think. >> yes, she was very, very young. virginia giuffre, prince andrew's sex accuser , was also andrew's sex accuser, was also there. has always there. prince andrew has always denied the allegations that miss giuffre against he giuffre alleges against him. he also , in the now infamous also, in the now infamous newsnight interview , claims he newsnight interview, claims he never actually met virginia giuffre. >> and in this court document, this woman , um, uh sjoberg, miss this woman, um, uh sjoberg, miss sjoberg says that she saw virginia giuffre with prince andrew in epstein's mansion in new york. and it then goes back to the question if, as prince andrew says, he doesn't recall meeting her, why did he write a check to her for £12 million? yeah >> johanna sjoberg say >> johanna sjoberg did say she saw giuffre that saw virginia giuffre in that mansion at these mansion at in these new documents . it does also claim, documents. it does also claim, as we have heard previously, that prince andrew had sex with virginia giuffre three virginia giuffre on three separate occasions, one in new york, one in london and one on jeffrey epstein's private island in and i quote , an orgy with

in and i quote, an orgy with other underage girls. now, at the time with the breast touching with show by buckingham palace categorically denied those allegations . now, those allegations. now, buckingham palace no longer represents prince andrew because he was forced step back he was forced to step back following the infamous newsnight interview. said, andrew, interview. as you said, andrew, he of court he settled out of court for a vast sum of money to a woman. he claims he never met. but prince andrew has always denied these allegations. so it's all very tncky allegations. so it's all very tricky prince andrew and the tricky for prince andrew and the royal family. >> is there any misgivings now? regret in hindsight. but the regret in hindsight. but by the very profile of very high profile decision of the walk with his the king to walk with his brother church sandringham brother to church in sandringham on with with on christmas day, with with sarah ferguson , his ex—wife, sarah ferguson, his ex—wife, real show of family unity when these documents we knew were coming out just days later. >> and i think by looking at those at sandringham, it those images at sandringham, it shows the difference between the private windsor family and the working royal family. i do not see at the moment a way for prince andrew to become a working member of the royal family again, no matter how much he it, but it does show

he wants it, but it does show that still a member that he's still a valued member of private family unit . that he's still a valued member of private family unit. his of the private family unit. his brother andrew's brother , brother prince andrew's brother, is his late mother was is the king. his late mother was queen elizabeth ii and as you say, sarah ferguson was also there. but he's not going to suddenly be doing engagements on behalf of the king. >> do you think it's >> and do you think it's important that we remind important that we just remind viewers of viewers what the details of this story because talk about story is? because we talk about the epstein files and we talk about this island and all of these high powered people and it's to not it's easy to it's easy to not it's easy to forget that this is a little bit complicated. so the accusation effectively correct me, gentlemen, if you think this is wrong, but that there is a powerful cohort of very rich and influential people across the world, often from hollywood or as you say, royalty or tv drama, the media, politics. thank you . the media, politics. thank you. who have for decades lived and behaved with impunity outside of the normal rules that you and i might adhere to . and when might adhere to. and when jeffrey epstein was is arrested and sent to prison, there was a clamouring who was he servicing ?

clamouring who was he servicing? who was he providing these services to? it's all very well to say that he was, um, committing acts of paedophilia, given that and also but the age do we know between us how young any girls were on that island that he is accused of allegedly 17 yes. >> she maintains she was 17 at the time, which in this country would be above the age of consent . consent. >> but of course in america. >> but of course in america. >> but of course in america. >> but i think but but but when he was alleged to have had sex with giuffre in america , she was with giuffre in america, she was above legal age consent above the legal age of consent in america. >> i i'm sure that's the case. >> yeah, but the fact is, >> yeah, but but the fact is, epstein a web of epstein wove a web of connections because of his wealth. and he he was incredibly generous. yeah, he may have been loaning people money, giving people money. well, we know he gave sarah ferguson money to help debts. gave sarah ferguson money to heland debts. gave sarah ferguson money to heland therefore its. gave sarah ferguson money to heland therefore it. gave sarah ferguson money to heland therefore it raises >> and therefore it raises questions, doesn't it? >> certainly raises >> yeah, it certainly raises questions . i think it is questions. i think it is important out that important to point out that a number high profile number of these high profile figures, as bill clinton, figures, such as bill clinton, who named there is no who have been named there is no suggestion there's suggestion that there's any

allegation of criminal. he has denied ever being on his island, even. yeah, he has he even. yeah, he has denied he used jets. yes he used his used his jets. yes he used his jets. ghislaine and jets. uh ghislaine maxwell. and these files says that claims that bill had a meal on that bill clinton had a meal on on the jets well. maxwell on the jets as well. but maxwell is currently serving a 20 year prison sentence for sex prison sentence for child sex trafficking. epstein trafficking. jeffrey epstein killed himself in prison awaiting trial, allegedly , sex awaiting trial, allegedly, sex charges in new york. so it's all very tricky. just finally on sarah ferguson, the former duchess of york, the duchess of york, she was with the king on christmas on christmas day. >> and the knows she >> and yet the king knows she took £40,000 from a man who we now know was convicted paedophile. yeah . was that misjudgement? >> well, i think it's a show of unity. i think obviously the reason didn't sarah reason we didn't see sarah ferguson at christmas odd ferguson at christmas for 40 odd years because the duke of years was because the duke of edinburgh's relationship with fergie , i he found it very fergie, i think he found it very embarrassing following the so—called and the so—called token gate and the rest i think there's rest of it. i think there's a difference between charles and his father, prince philip, and i think charles wants to show support. loves his brother, support. he loves his brother, family members. yeah, they love

him. >> unfortunately. we have to leave for cameron leave it there for now. cameron thank so now, rishi thank you so much. now, rishi sunak and sir keir starmer are set to launch their election bids today. set to launch their election bid they'll be giving speeches. >> they'll be giving speeches. well speech. >> they'll be giving speeches. welthink speech. >> they'll be giving speeches. welthink the speech. >> they'll be giving speeches. welthink the prime speech. >> they'll be giving speeches. welthink the prime ministerech. >> they'll be giving speeches. welthink the prime minister is. we think the prime minister is doing a question and answer. will be more inspiring than will they be more inspiring than the wet flop , which was the lib the wet flop, which was the lib dem poster launch yesterday? and some of us think reform uk could have been a bit more dynamic . nick. >> controversial. well, joining us now is deputy leader of reform uk and newly announced candidate wellingborough , a candidate for wellingborough, a friend news as well ben friend of gb news as well ben habib. morning. uh habib. ben good morning. uh congratulations on the fact that you're going to be standing in this . um, right. where do this seat. um, right. where do we start? how did you think the speech went yesterday ? i think speech went yesterday? i think it got a little bit of a lukewarm reception, actually. richard tice his speech . richard tice his speech. >> well, i thought, richard, i mean , you know, you're damned if mean, you know, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. >> i thought richard set out quite a full exposition of the problems facing country . quite a full exposition of the problems facing country. um, problems facing the country. um, and the solutions that reform had broadly to address them.

and, um , it might have been and, um, it might have been perhaps a bit too verbose for some, but if he hadn't done that, then, you know, people would have said, well, you know, what are the problems? what are your your your answers? what's your agenda? i i think agenda? yeah. so i mean, i think richard well, richard spoke very well, actually and course, i spoke actually. and of course, i spoke very i think. of very well, too. i think. of course do, unless you're course you do, unless you're going tell otherwise. going to tell me otherwise. >> know, always do if >> you know, you always do if you're listening on the radio. >> just shown clip, of >> we've just shown a clip, of course, tice with course, of richard tice with nigel is, course, course, of richard tice with nig�*eminence is, course, course, of richard tice with nig�*eminence greece course, course, of richard tice with nig�*eminence greece of course, course, of richard tice with nig�*eminence greece of reform the eminence greece of reform uk. was elephant in the uk. that was the elephant in the room, it? yesterday room, ben, wasn't it? yesterday where nigel farage? when's where was nigel farage? when's he us? what's he he going to tell us? what's he going and richard tice going to do? and richard tice um, view, spoke too um, in my view, spoke for too long us anything long and didn't tell us anything new that we didn't know already . new that we didn't know already. >> yeah. i mean , i think >> yeah. so i mean, i think there was a huge expectation been built up about nigel and nigel's return to politics and in a sense that distracted from the day because the message yesterday that we wanted to get across was , you know, we are across was, you know, we are going on the attack not just against the tories, but against labouh

against the tories, but against labour. labour obviously we, you know, we think the tories are awful. uh, but that's no excuse . awful. uh, but that's no excuse. um, you know , not to point out um, you know, not to point out that labour are equally bad or worse . and, and the other big worse. and, and the other big bit of news, obviously from a personal perspective yesterday was that i'm going to be standing in wellingborough. but all the media wanted to talk about nigel farage. about was nigel farage. and nigel brilliant at it. nigel is so brilliant at it. well, it is frustrating, but he's so brilliant at working the media up. even in the absence of saying anything, he managed to get everyone talking about him. um, what i would say to um, but what i would say to members of reform uk is that in the polls two years ago, we were polling about 2 or 3, three months ago we were polling 5. today we're polling regularly at 10% plus, and that's all happened without nigel, uh, you know, being in the fray . and, know, being in the fray. and, um, and we're going to go on doing what we do. we're going to go on putting out the small c

conservative message, small state reduced taxation , less state reduced taxation, less state reduced taxation, less state intervention, less borrowing, championing the british worker, and so on. and so forth. and i think that message is getting through with or without nigel. of course, nigel will be fantastic to have him back. but reform uk is not a proxy for nigel. we have our own agenda and we're going to deliver it. >> you, we were told there was going to be a big attack on labouh going to be a big attack on labour. uh, because you're not just an anti tory protest party. ben but actually most of the speech was a reheating of what we know already . the tories are we know already. the tories are pretty badly screwed up, which is why they are so far behind in the polls. wasn't it? again a bit of a lost opportunity to expose starmer who's got no policies? we don't know what he stands on income tax , stands for on income tax, brexit. know where he brexit. we don't know where he is . is. >> well i you're you're right and i think one of the difficulties in attacking labour is because starmer has been on the whole , studiously avoiding the whole, studiously avoiding coming out with what he's going to do because it's very, very

difficult for him. we all know labouris difficult for him. we all know labour is a borrowed tax and spend party and typically what happens is labour take over after people have forgotten how awful labour is after a protracted period of conservative government, which has put the country's finances back into good shape . but this back into good shape. but this time starmer is going to be standing for election with the country's finances in really bad shape. country's finances in really bad shape . so he's really ham fisted shape. so he's really ham fisted . he can't paint a rosy picture because he hasn't got the lolly with which to paint it . and you with which to paint it. and you know, the only sadly, after 13 years of conservative government, we have to fix the economy as a priority. and that's why voting for reform uk is critical. starmer as richard so brilliantly put it yesterday, would be starmageddon. we've never had a labour party take over when national debt was at historic highs, when taxation was at historic highs, when gdp was at historic highs, when gdp was flatlining, to regressing on a per capita basis, giving the

reins of the economy over to labour now would be a disaster. we need five years of genuine conservative government, but you're not going to get that from the conservative party because they have pivoted so far to the left with their one nafion to the left with their one nation liberal democrat contingent, part of the, you know, their parliamentary party, um , that they've forgotten what um, that they've forgotten what it means to be conservative. that's why we need reform uk . that's why we need reform uk. >> ben, when you when you fight that seat, the wellingborough by—election that people will focus a lot on you already we've seen tory tory mps talking about your vast wealth. some suggestions you're worth £60 million. good luck. if you are, perhaps you can tell us if you are worth that much and some suggestions that you're a non—dom. are you paying all your taxes here, ben ? taxes here, ben? >> i'm not a non—dom. i'm paying all my taxes in the united kingdom, and i wish i was as rich as people think i am. but i'm not. >> how rich are you? how rich are you? transparency and

openness. a very good way forward in politics. >> well, that's a personal question. i, i if you don't deal with it, then people will keep coming after you it. with it, then people will keep coming after you it . well coming after you over it. well my i'm, i am an executive of a pubuc my i'm, i am an executive of a public company. i own shares in a public company. my earnings are fully disclosed. when i was an mep , um, i was famously , uh, an mep, um, i was famously, uh, held out as the highest income generating mep . a slightly generating mep. a slightly strange because berlusconi was in the same parliament as i was , in the same parliament as i was, and i think berlusconi's a billionaire. so i don't know quite how it was that i trumped berlusconi, but, um, you know, my income and my wealth are pretty much out there in the pubuc pretty much out there in the public domain. the large, the largest part of my personal wealth is in the shares of my company, um, which is a property company. and like many property companies over lockdowns companies over over lockdowns and inflation in the and now with inflation in the share price, sadly has gone down. so my personal wealth has taken a knock because of conservative party policy. but ben, you wouldn't turn good

vested interest. >> you don't want to become an mp for the salary. let's be honest. so why do you want to put your life just flip everything upside down and get involved ? involved in this? >> as i said to andrew, >> well, as i said to andrew, last time i was on, i will not take an mp salary. i'm doing this because of duty and because i am triggered. frankly, i got triggered back in 2019 when theresa may was refusing . theresa may was refusing. >> we've lost ben, we've lost ben.and >> we've lost ben, we've lost ben. and if you missed that, what ben habib just said is he won't take an mp salary, which is interesting because an mp is paid. >> amazing . about £85,000 going >> amazing. about £85,000 going up, i think. is it to £92,000? thatis up, i think. is it to £92,000? that is nearly triple what the average wage is. yeah. he will be the only unpaid mp out of 650. he will take his expenses to pay for his staff. but that's an interesting. >> but if that doesn't make your ears prick up about where these people are coming from in reform, then they're nothing.

>> will all the more reason though i still think ben should say actually, no, i'm not worth 60 million. i'm actually worth say actually, no, i'm not worth 60 million because jally worth say actually, no, i'm not worth 60 million because iilly worth say actually, no, i'm not worth 60 million because i don't)rth say actually, no, i'm not worth 60 million because i don't think 32 million because i don't think it matters people but it matters. i think people but what i say, bev, will happen is that become an issue for you. >> look at what rishi sunak is worth. is worth. he's worth his wife is worth. he's worth his wife is worth rees—mogg worth billions. jacob rees—mogg is , but we know is a wealthy man, but we know david cameron is a wealthy man . david cameron is a wealthy man. yeah, because . yeah, i don't care because. >> because they're insurgents and we welcome insurgents in the political scene. i think people will people talk a lot will will people will talk a lot about wealth. and about his wealth. and i would knockit about his wealth. and i would knock it on the head. >> well, does really matter? >> well, does it really matter? not me. not to me. >> to all. he could be >> to me at all. he could be worth 2 billion. i would like, i would people would like some people should not deterred going not be deterred from going into pubuc not be deterred from going into public absolutely public life. that's absolutely what i'd say. i think just what i'd say. but i think just to say i'm not worth 60 million, worth a lot less than that. i'm just saying it's not going to go away. >> yeah, well, let us know what you think. it's a really good talking point. vaiews@gbnews.com. still to come, going come, starmer is going to be setting out his policies for 2024. >> go anywhere. we're >> don't go anywhere. we're talking winner. >> don't go anywhere. we're talkinbrighter winner. >> don't go anywhere. we're talkin brighter outlook nner. >> don't go anywhere. we're talkin brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb

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contend with, with what's set to be a very long general election campaign . campaign. >> find out more with me very soon and we are going to be talking to luke humphries , who talking to luke humphries, who beat the pressure cooker of ali harbi ali last night, walks away with half £1 million. >> despite the crowd not being on his side. did he do it? on his side. how did he do it? we're going to find out that sir luke little, though. we're still looking pictures luke looking at pictures of luke littler, though didn't littler, even though he didn't win exactly . win it exactly. >> well, before we go, we're going to talk, of course, to gb news very own sport presenter paul coyte. well it was a result you wanted happen . you wanted to happen. >> it result i wanted to >> it was the result i wanted to have won. yeah he did and have won. yeah yeah he did and i think right i think it's the right thing. i think it's the right thing. i think we discussed it in we yesterday saying that luke littler is 16 years old. is it just going to be much. yeah just going to be too much. yeah everybody the everybody was behind him. the whole but whole crowd was behind him. but luke humphries let's not forget luke humphries, let's not forget what story is that what a great story it is that he's know he's he's he's won. you know he's he's battled health. he lost

battled mental health. he lost a huge amount of weight . and he's huge amount of weight. and he's all of a sudden in the past year just gone like this. yeah and he's won five out of six tournaments. >> well i'm so excited that we get to talk to him because when i watched him in his post—match interview he interview last night and he said, didn't he, that at one point said had terrible point he said i had terrible depression, awful anxiety, point he said i had terrible depressifamily awful anxiety, point he said i had terrible depressifamily were vful anxiety, point he said i had terrible depressifamily were crying xiety, point he said i had terrible depressifamily were crying inty, and his family were crying in the and i thought, wow, the crowd and i thought, wow, they've all on they've they've all been on quite experience, quite an experience, haven't they? all together? >> doubt . can you >> oh, without doubt. can you imagine the would imagine what the story would have like if luke littler have been like if luke littler hadnt have been like if luke littler hadn't been playing? because there so much there would have been so much about humphries and just there would have been so much about whetherphries and just there would have been so much about whether it|ries and just there would have been so much about whether it did and just there would have been so much about whether it did him just wonder whether it did him a favour that the pressure was away from him. because when we look at sport, there's so much more to it and the pressure has got huge amount do with it. got a huge amount to do with it. and as a 16 year old, i don't think littler felt the pressure. but the best player in but he played the best player in the world. >> he . but luke humphries is >> but he. but luke humphries is the comeback kid, isn't he? because against because he's battled against these um , disadvantages. >> the challenges. yeah >> the challenges. yeah >> his weight looks good. handled himself very well

afterwards in the media interviews. he's a he's a and he's already the world number one. he didn't become the world number one even before he won the championship. >> that's right. and it was only just it was only in the semi—final the world semi—final became the world number this is what's number one. and this is what's really great dart. the really great for dart. so the people at pdc, they must be people at the pdc, they must be rubbing together rubbing their hands together because they because not only have they got the which is the the 16 year old, which is the great you've luke great story, you've got luke humphries, out be humphries, who turns out to be a great ambassador because you hear he speaks. so well hear the way he speaks. so well and he you know, incredibly gracious well. and the way he gracious as well. and the way he talks littler. but then talks about littler. but then again, at 16 was very again, young luke at 16 was very similar as well. he handled himself so well. >> luke humphries >> and when luke humphries walked night, am walked out last night, am i right, i heard booing in right, paul? i heard booing in that crowd. it was not a welcome reception that he got. >> there is the thing now, if you're bruce or if you're luke, there's going to be luke . luke there's going to be luke. luke like or like bruce springsteen. when you see bruce springsteen , when you see bruce springsteen, people booing bruce know that's the yell. so it was probably more luke than it was a boo , more luke than it was a boo,

right? there were boos. there were boos which you would hear dunng were boos which you would hear during the game. so for example, if the legendary nine if there's the legendary nine dart finish, which is the ultimate, it's like the 147 in, in, in snooker. so treble 20, you've got three treble 20, another three treble 20s and the lowest you can do 501 which is what they play is in nine darts. so after three treble 20s one, then another one. and when that one missed. yes then you'd hear the boos because the crowd wants to see a nine dart finish and that hadn't been seen at the world championship this year. >> do we have any idea how many people like me bought a special darts pass off sky just to watch that did oh, that event? oh did you? oh, i did, yeah, i know there were some nefarious means of watching it online last night, it illegally online last night, but thought sky sports, you but i thought if sky sports, you look you you said but i thought if sky sports, you look no, you you said but i thought if sky sports, you look no, wouldn't you said but i thought if sky sports, you look no, wouldn't know;aid but i thought if sky sports, you look no, wouldn't know who. that. no, he wouldn't know who. he how find he barely knows how to find youtube. never mind work out how to still got up on >> he still got dial up on internet, see, i'm internet, but you see, i'm sorry, thought, no, if sky sorry, but i thought, no, if sky sports promoting this sports are promoting this minority with these minority sport with these youngsters in it, i'm going to give them my £12.

>> they deserve it. so i went well, i didn't actually much well, i didn't actually my much younger did. younger boyfriend did. i wouldn't known how to it wouldn't have known how to do it coming wouldn't have known how to do it conyeah, yeah, yeah i the >> yeah, yeah, yeah i saw the odd bit. >> managed to watch it and it >> we managed to watch it and it was great evening of was a really great evening of entertainment actually. do we have idea how many people have any idea how many people will done did last will have done what i did last night? i'll tell you we know. >> y w- w is that there was a >> and that is that there was a bigger audience for sky sports than there was for the ashes there was a bigger than there was a bigger audience than there cup this there was for the ryder cup this yeah there was for the ryder cup this year. people tuned year. wow more people tuned into the darts and that without doubt, littler. doubt, because of luke littler. yeah, captivating. >> captivating >> it's a captivating story, isn't 16 old boy, not isn't it? a 16 year old boy, not old to vote, old old enough to vote, not an old enough to a pint. can only enough to buy a pint. can only go a pub his 21 year old go in a pub with his 21 year old girlfriend. there at girlfriend. and there he was at the pinnacle. and he almost did it it was very close, it because it was very close, wasn't it? >> w- w“ e was one >> it really was. he was one dart away leading five two, dart away from leading five two, and he'd have won and if he and if he'd have won and if he led five two in sets, it was the first to seven, probably first to seven, he probably would but that's would have gone on. but that's sport , you know, it turns on a sport, you know, it turns on a sixpence. yeah did happen. sixpence. yeah so it did happen. where humphries then went on and won on trot and won five sets on the trot and then it was all over for it

works. >> it's the first one to get to six, but you've got to win by to seven by seven. >> seven sets. >> seven sets. >> isn't it just to remind our viewers we waiting for sir viewers we are waiting for sir keir starmer to take to the lectern and blow your minds with his brilliant oratory in just a moment. i can't think of moment. but i can't think of anything about, anything nicer to talk about, uh, honest. but while uh, to be honest. but while we wait , uh, to be honest. but while we wait, memories watching us wait, memories is watching us and wanting to hear the end of the dance. >> didn't see what happened. >> do you think he's a darts fan?i >> do you think he's a darts fan? i leaders probably were. >> put it this way. i think he probably say he was a probably would say he was a darts but whether really darts fan, but whether he really is but tony is a darts fan, but also tony blair a newcastle blair told us he was a newcastle united fan and sat in stands united fan and sat in the stands and certain player playing. >> the stand wasn't even built when said was. when he said he was. >> quite a them. that >> quite a few of them. that have that stuff. talking have done that stuff. talking about cameron the about different, cameron got the wrong about different, cameron got the wro football team. do about different, cameron got the wrofootball team. do you >> football team. do you remember general remember during the general election, aston election, my team, aston villa and team, and apparently his team, somebody else or the other way round somebody else or the other way rou have had statements >> have we had any statements from fans applauding from politicians fans applauding the night? the result last night? i'm surprised not waded in. surprised they've not waded in. >> because surprised they've not waded in. >> thing because surprised they've not waded in. >> thing they because surprised they've not waded in. >> thing they probablyecause surprised they've not waded in. >> thing they probably just.e surprised they've not waded in. >> well they probably just.e surprised they've not waded in. >> well doneay probably just.e surprised they've not waded in. >> well done luke.bably just.e surprised they've not waded in. >> well done luke. you'vert.e had well done luke. you've won the championship

the world championship because when leeks when you've got two leeks playing, can't go playing, you can't really go wrong. interesting is wrong. what's interesting is that the names had two that it's the names we had two luke's amazing that that it's the names we had two lukhad amazing that that it's the names we had two lukhad two amazing that that it's the names we had two lukhad two michael'szing that that it's the names we had two lukhad two michael's lastthat that it's the names we had two lukhad two michael's last year, we had two michael's last year, did and we had on breakfast. did we. and we had on breakfast. we were talking to dimitri van den bergh, who's now realised that his chance of being the that his chance of being in the world next pretty world final next year is pretty much nil, because no other. >> dimitris, what do you think will happen now for luke littler? because he's the one that the public that has caught the public imagination . as as we say, imagination. as much as we say, it's brilliant that luke humphries that as but humphries did that as well. but will a of figure will he become a bit of a figure for the commercial brands, for the advertising agencies, for appearances ? is he set to make appearances? is he set to make a lot of money? >> all of those things there was one question that i really didn't like that was in a press conference. i think it was yesterday or the day before. and you know what these things are like. you know, you get the journos to be asking, you know, tell us, what do you think about this? what do you think about that? 16 year old that? and this is 16 year old kid darts. he was kid that plays darts. and he was asked, yeah, tell us, luke, asked, oh yeah, tell us, luke, um, do have message um, do you have a message for other olds that

other 16 year olds that are doing gcses right now? and doing their gcses right now? and i'm are you i'm just thinking, what are you asking for? yeah. and asking him that for? yeah. and he said, to honest with he said, well, to be honest with you, i didn't get any. but he didn't get any. he didn't. you, i didn't get any. but he dcant get any. he didn't. you, i didn't get any. but he dcan sayt any. he didn't. you, i didn't get any. but he dcan say busy he didn't. you, i didn't get any. but he dcan say busy playingiidn't. you, i didn't get any. but he dcan say busy playing darts if i can say busy playing darts if you're player and you're a darts player and concentrate on that. and it's like, really necessary. like, is that really necessary. yeah. as soon as yeah. and we know as soon as someone the scene, someone comes on the scene, everybody them. everybody looks at them. then any it's like, oh, any question it's like, oh, please this . we want please tell us this. we want to know this. want know that. know this. we want to know that. so he's got to try and keep that. >> so i was very struck this week as well. emma raducanu, who famously aged famously won the us open aged 18, extraordinary . but she 18, 19, extraordinary. but she did . she peaked too soon. she's did. she peaked too soon. she's made a comeback this week after 11 months of injury. did she? perhaps paul spend too much time with modelling contracts because she's made millions modelling . she's made millions modelling. she's very attractive young woman and not enough time on the tennis court . woman and not enough time on the tennis court. uh, again, did it come too soon for her? well it's a balancing act, isn't it? >> between us. because you have got to have the public persona. and if you're very successful at your sport, then all these things are going to come along.

you're say, i'm not you're not going to say, i'm not interested anything. yeah interested in anything. yeah you've to concentrate you've got to concentrate on your sport. but emma raducanu, it injuries . your sport. but emma raducanu, it injuries. so had it was injuries. so she had wrist injuries. it was injuries. so she had wrist injuries . she had leg wrist injuries. she had leg injuries. she had three operations all in the space of a year darts player. year with a darts player. there's not really that too many injuries that you're to injuries that you're going to face. >> do you reckon they have one very, strong one very, very strong arm and one really what me really weedy one. that's what me and partner were and my partner were contemplating they contemplating last night. they must massive arm and contemplating last night. they musskinny massive arm and contemplating last night. they musskinny one.nassive arm and contemplating last night. they musskinny one. wellve arm and contemplating last night. they mus skinny one. well the rm and contemplating last night. they mus skinny one. well the thing d one skinny one. well the thing is, think weight is is, i don't think the weight is 22g. that a lot, though, 22g. doing that a lot, though, aren't you? >> there going to be a lot of >> there is going to be a lot of that. and the thing is, but i know of people that do know a lot of people that do a lot of that, they don't have a very large that's mostly in very large arm. that's mostly in westminster well. very large arm. that's mostly in westmihope well. very large arm. that's mostly in westmihope he's'ell. very large arm. that's mostly in westmihope he's not doing that. >> we hope he's not doing that. he's only 16, so he's too young to be putting pints. to be putting back pints. >> he is. >> of course he is. >> whole of darts, >> but the whole image of darts, which changed a huge amount. which has changed a huge amount. glenn durham, spoke to glenn durham, we spoke to earlier, who's bdo world earlier, who's a bdo world champion, back champion, was saying that back in, remember old, champion, was saying that back in, not remember old, champion, was saying that back in, not the nember old, champion, was saying that back in, not the 9:00 er old, champion, was saying that back in, not the 9:00 news old, champion, was saying that back in, not the 9:00 news sketch, do um, not the 9:00 news sketch, do you remember that? go on. it you remember that? go on. and it was. darts was. and it was basically darts because back in late 70s, because back in the late 70s, early it was big men that early 80s, it was big men that were drinking pints and smoking

fags it was. fags, and that's what it was. and there was the sketch and then there was the sketch where get darts player and then there was the sketch whe he's get darts player and then there was the sketch whe he's going, darts player and then there was the sketch whe he's going, (coming yer and then there was the sketch whe he's going, (coming up. and he's going, it's coming up. what's for? he's going what's he going for? he's going for triple vodka. going for the triple vodka. he's going for the triple vodka. he's going for and they for the triple vodka. and they throw the background. throw darts in the background. yeah. and although it really yeah. and although it was really funny, saying, well, funny, glenn was saying, well, you actually you know what it actually put darts many years . years darts back so many years. years because what everybody because that's what everybody saw. as. saw. darts as. >> we'd love to carry the >> we'd love to carry on the conversation, going >> we'd love to carry on the con\nowtion, going >> we'd love to carry on the con\nowtiorthe going >> we'd love to carry on the con\nowtiorthe leader, live now to the labour leader, keir who's delivering keir starmer, who's delivering a keynote speech. we're told in the here's keir the west country. here's keir starmer . starmer. >> thank you claire. you will be a great candidate, a really great candidate for filton and bradley stoke. and i hope in time an even better mp. and it's great to be here again , looking great to be here again, looking at the next generation of aircraft wings, you can see some of the instruments behind me . of the instruments behind me. this is the third time and i love it and it features pretty heavily in quite a number of my speeches. but look , on behalf of

speeches. but look, on behalf of the labour party , thank you for the labour party, thank you for being here this morning. and happy new year. now, as a politician, you've got to be a bit careful with these new year messages as, um, we'll all remember boris johnson's prediction of a fantastic year ahead. prediction of a fantastic year ahead . that was 2020. and then ahead. that was 2020. and then last year i stuck my neck out and occasionally predicted glory for arsenal . so and occasionally predicted glory for arsenal. so i'll pass on that one today. but look , there that one today. but look, there is one thing that we can be sure is one thing that we can be sure is coming this year. and i'm ready for it. the thought of millions of people right across our country putting a cross on that ballot paper. it's what we've been waiting for, preparing for, fighting for a year of choice , a chance to year of choice, a chance to change britain in a clock that

is ticking on this government. because whether it's in the spnng because whether it's in the spring or later in the year, the moment when power is taken out of tory hands and given not to me , but to you , that moment is me, but to you, that moment is getting closer by the second. so so if you've spent the last 14 years volunteering to keep your park clean, your library open for children to have opportunities 80s. if you've been breaking your back to keep trading , steering your business trading, steering your business through the pandemic , the cost through the pandemic, the cost of living crisis, the challenge of living crisis, the challenge of brexit and the chaos of westminster . if you've been westminster. if you've been serving our country, whether in scrubs or in the uniform of your regiment and what you want now is a politics that serves you , is a politics that serves you, then make no mistake, this is your year . then make no mistake, this is your year. the opportunity to shape our country's future rests

in your hands and that is a new year message of hope. the hope of democracy , the power of the of democracy, the power of the vote, the potential for national renewal , the chance finally to renewal, the chance finally to turn the page live , the weight turn the page live, the weight off our shoulders , unite as off our shoulders, unite as a country and get our future back . country and get our future back. for years years i've been working for this for years , working for this for years, working for this for years, working for this for years, working for the chance to tilt this country firmly and decisively back towards the interests of working people . interests of working people. it's been a long, hard slog, and it's been a long, hard slog, and i won't lie, i've hated the futility of opposition , the futility of opposition, the powerlessness and yes , the pain powerlessness and yes, the pain that comes from watching the tories drive the country i love

into the rocks of decline . i into the rocks of decline. i didn't come into politics for that. didn't come into politics for that . i didn't come into politics for that. i didn't didn't come into politics for that . i didn't expect a front that. i didn't expect a front row seat on this tory performance art, a song and dance for your political attention because they find performing so much easier than the hard graft of practical achievement . i know i came into achievement. i know i came into politics to serve, to get things done, to strike each and every day, to make a difference to the lives of working people. that's what gets me up in the morning and if you can put aside the reality of westminster just for a moment , reality of westminster just for a moment, it's why i still believe in politics. i had a long career before this at the crown prosecutor service as a human rights lawyer in my work with the police service of northern ireland, i've looked into the eyes of people i served

and represented , and i've seen and represented, and i've seen reflected back the knowledge that government can make or break a life , literally, when it break a life, literally, when it comes to work. i've done with people on death row, life and death decisions in your hands. now, there's a pressure with that. now, there's a pressure with that . of course there is . now, there's a pressure with that. of course there is . but that. of course there is. but that's the responsibility of justice and public service , and justice and public service, and it's the responsibility of serious government . this isn't serious government. this isn't a game polish . this shouldn't be a game polish. this shouldn't be a hobby , a pastime for people who hobby, a pastime for people who enjoy the feeling of power and nor should it be a sermon from on high by a self—regarding lecture. vanity dressed up as virtue . no it should be a higher virtue. no it should be a higher calling. the power of the vote. the hope of change and renewal .

the hope of change and renewal. married to the responsibility of service. that's what i believe . service. that's what i believe. in. and yes , i believe it's in. and yes, i believe it's still the best way to change our country for the better. it's success or failure is written into the walls of every community in this country. the hospital your children were born in, the home you live in, the wage in your pocket , the wage in your pocket, the opportunities in your town , the opportunities in your town, the sense of pride or unease when you walk down your street . you walk down your street. that's all politics is. so this year at the general election , year at the general election, against the tide of cynicism in westminster , the gauntlet of westminster, the gauntlet of fear the tories will unleash and most of all, the understandable despair of a downtrodden country, i will ask the british people to believe in it again. i

will say you're right to be anti westminster , right to be angry westminster, right to be angry about what politics has become . about what politics has become. but hold on to the flickering hopein but hold on to the flickering hope in your heart that things can be better because they can. you can choose it. you can choose the hope of national renewal, the responsibility of service, what politics can and should be. and you can reject the pointless populist gestures. the low road cynicism that the tories believe is all you deserve . that's deserve. that's all they've got left now , after 14 years with left now, after 14 years with nothing good to show, no practical achievements to point towards , no purpose beyond the towards, no purpose beyond the fight to save their own skins. this is their only project. fight to save their own skins. this is their only project . they

this is their only project. they can't change britain so they will try to undermine the possibility of change itself , to possibility of change itself, to take britain down to their level. kick the hope out of all of us. but i believe in this country. i believe in its spirit. i believe in its people, its businesses, its communities, and most of all, i believe that if the british people see respect and service in their politics, if they see a plan which matches the ambition and pride they have for their community, a path finally to an economy that rewards and respects their efforts , then respects their efforts, then yes, they will commit to the mission of national renewal, will believe that britain can get its future back . thank you . get its future back. thank you. but i'm under no illusions. get its future back. thank you. but i'm under no illusions . this but i'm under no illusions. this is a huge test. we are trying

not just to defeat the tories, but to defeat their entire way of doing politics. a mindset that seeks out any differences between the people of this country . and like weeds between country. and like weeds between the paving stones, will pull apart the cracks so ultimately they can divide and rule . i have they can divide and rule. i have to warn you, they will leave no stone unturned this year. every opportunity for division will be exploited for political potential . well, that's a given . potential. well, that's a given. but do not doubt for a second that we're ready for it. do not doubt that we will show the british people that the real risk is five more years of a tory government. that would be even more entitled, even more self—serving, even more complete . isn't self—serving, even more complete mema self—serving, even more complete . isn't that your vote can be taken for granted . and yet , at

taken for granted. and yet, at the same time , we have to bring the same time, we have to bring the same time, we have to bring the country together , have to the country together, have to earn trust as well as votes, nurture a spirit of national unity . that's what's distinctive unity. that's what's distinctive about our job this year to truly defeat this miserablist tory project, we must crush their politics of divide and decline with a new project. hope . not with a new project. hope. not a grand utopian hope, not the hope of the easy answer, the quick fix, the miracle cure. people have had their fill of that from politicians over the last 14 years. no no, they need credible hope. a frank hope, a hope that levels with you about the hard road ahead. but it shows you a way through light at the end of

the tunnel , the hope of the the tunnel, the hope of the certain destiny option. that's why the national missions we've set out the measurable goals, whether it's the highest growth in the g7 whether it's the highest growth in the 67 in halving violence against women and girls, clean , against women and girls, clean, clean power by 2030. now they are unapologetically ambitious . are unapologetically ambitious. i know they will take hard work, determination and patience. a true national effort . and for true national effort. and for many people , that invites many people, that invites a sharp intake of breath, a raised eyebrow, a question often can this really be done ? but look this really be done? but look what really keeps me up at night is a different reaction altogether . the biggest altogether. the biggest challenge we face bar none . the challenge we face bar none. the shrug of the shoulder, because , shrug of the shoulder, because, as this is the paradox of british politics right now ,

british politics right now, everyone agrees we're in a huge mess. service is on their knees. an economy that doesn't work for working people even when it grows, let alone when it stagnates. like now , everyone stagnates. like now, everyone agrees as well that it's been like this for a while , that like this for a while, that britain needs change, wants change is crying out for change, and yet trust in politics is now so low , so degraded that nobody so low, so degraded that nobody believes you can make a difference anymore . also that difference anymore. also that after the sex scandals, the expenses scandals , the waste expenses scandals, the waste scandals, the contracts for friends, even in a crisis like the pandemic, some people have looked at us and concluded we're all just in it for ourselves as all just in it for ourselves as a nation that is so exhausted, tired and despairing even that they've given up on hope. a national mood which if we aren't

successful with our project, hope the tories will subtly seek to exploit seriously after failing to deliver change after ludicrously pretending that they could represent change, they now sense the opportunity of a new strategy , an attempt to take the strategy, an attempt to take the change option off the table altogether either, and not just at the next election . no, at the next election. no, they're strategy has also won i on salting the earth of britain's future a plan to make sure that if labour does earn the right to serve, we will find it harder to bring our country together for the common good. so i say to every voter in this country , know that all this is country, know that all this is coming your way. they country, know that all this is coming your way . they know that coming your way. they know that if we are to heal the wounds of the past 14 years and move

forward, britain must come together. and that means we will need you . but also know that need you. but also know that whether you're you're thinking of voting labour for the first time, whether you always vote labour or whether you've no intention of voting labour whatsoever , my party will serve whatsoever, my party will serve you . that's who we are now for you. that's who we are now for a changed party no longer in thrall to gesture politics, no longer a party of protest, a party of service rebuild, renewed , reconnected to an old renewed, reconnected to an old partnership , renewed, reconnected to an old partnership, a labour partnership, a labour partnership that we serve. working people as they drive britain forward . britain forward. so this is what i promise my

side of the deal. the answer to the question why . labour i the question why. labour i promise a new purpose to drag politics in this country back to service , tilt our economy back service, tilt our economy back towards the interests of working people , reward their efforts people, reward their efforts fairly . once again, people, reward their efforts fairly. once again, i promise a new plan with new priorities . new plan with new priorities. his five national missions that will sweep away the era of tory division, a plan for the long terme with higher growth , a terme with higher growth, a reformed planning system, no longer blocking the homes infrastructure and investment. we need safer streets, more police in your town cracking down on antisocial behaviour , down on antisocial behaviour, cheaper bills with gb energy, a new public company using clean british power, not foreign oil and gas. more opportunities for your children . new technical your children. new technical excellence colleges training our kids in the skills they need and

businesses want better mental health support in schools. expert teachers in every classroom paid for by removing tax breaks on private schools and our nhs back on its feet with a plan to cut the waiting lists paid for by removing the non—dom tax status. 2 million more appointments every year. >> so that's labour leader keir starmer, with yet another devastatingly exciting, brilliantly delivered speech. he's a great orator, isn't he ? he's a great orator, isn't he? we're in the with our we're in the studio with our panel we're in the studio with our panel. scarlett mccgwire, former adviser party and adviser to labour party and a broadcaster, mike parry. let's go you first, scarlett go to you first, scarlett maguire. he's not a great orator, been orator, is he? and he's been talking about 15 minutes. talking for about 15 minutes. and not. i'm none the and i do not. i'm none the wiser. to do as wiser. what he's going to do as prime minister. >> well , on prime minister. >> well, on this one he's talking about cleaning up politics. and he's. and he is actually putting clear water between labour and the tories about because because we do know that what the tories talk about

all the time is they try they try and find the differences. they try and do woke stuff, whereas what he's saying is no, they try and stop woke nonsense. they but they try and find it right on on things that really, really don't matter. right? or things that where you can just leave it . so i things that where you can just leave it. so i mean, i think, but what he's really doing is talking about cleaning up politics because there is there is a real problem in this country about can i suggest he's doing something else? country about can i suggest he's doiihe's mething else? country about can i suggest he's doiihe's metitalkinge? country about can i suggest he's doii he's metitalking cliched >> he's just talking cliched little jargon, clock ticking, rocks decline. gets rocks of decline. britain gets its future light at the end its future back light at the end of tunnel. no more of the tunnel. no more quick fixes, new plan, new priorities, of the tunnel. no more quick fix but why do they do that? because this is why so many people , scarlett, are just not people, scarlett, are just not engaged with politics. it? engaged with politics. isn't it? because they waffle on like this for hours? who is he talking to? >> i totally agree with you.

that off. i've that will turn people off. i've just lost 20 minutes of my life, which i'll never get back. right? listening to utter, i've just heard. yeah listening to an utter drivel. if a martian had landed 20 minutes ago and listened to that and then said, take me to your leader. and they took them to keir starmer, they'd say, don't believe they'd say, we don't believe you. not a leader. they'd they'd say, we don't believe yotback, not a leader. they'd they'd say, we don't believe yotback, they'd leader. they'd they'd say, we don't believe yotback, they'd go der. they'd they'd say, we don't believe yotback, they'd go back. hey'd they'd say, we don't believe yotback, they'd go back. we d go back, they'd go back. we don't believe oh, look, don't believe you. oh, look, he's saying anything at all. he's not saying anything at all. you know , it says they're you know, it says they're starmer's election strategy . starmer's election strategy. what i haven't heard what strategy? i haven't heard any strategy. it says underneath .labour any strategy. it says underneath . labour leader urges voters to reject pointless populist gestures like taking the knee, maybe. or something like that. i mean, what on earth is he talking? >> he was famously photographed doing, wasn't he, for black lives matter? exactly it's very much brushstrokes . this isn't it much brushstrokes. this isn't it broad? absolutely brush strokes, appealing to people's emotions, not giving us any facts, talking about the flickering light in your heart. um yeah. he said you know, we he talks about emotions . he's mentioned hope, anger, ambition , pride. they've got to

ambition, pride. they've got to earn our trust. >> what about mentioning tax ? >> what about mentioning tax? yes, because so what we know okay, is that if he does tax cuts then you have to cut other things . okay. now what about things. okay. now what about telling us if he's going to raise taxes or cut taxes. >> well, he's not going to raise taxes. >> how do you know. oh, oh not scarlet. >> honestly, that's almost labour leader. >> he's never raised taxes. >> he's never raised taxes. >> exactly. almost >> exactly. it's almost political naivety. i know you're not naive , but to not politically naive, but to say they won't labour won't raise why doesn't he come raise taxes. why doesn't he come out look, let me get out and say, look, let me get something straight for you. i've said rights lawyer. said i'm a human rights lawyer. >> finish. >> you can't finish. >> you can't finish. >> on, let me finish. >> hang on, let me finish. >> hang on, let me finish. >> i've said a human >> i, i've said i'm a human rights lawyer. we say, >> i, i've said i'm a human rights are lyeh we say, >> i, i've said i'm a human rightsare/yeh going we say, >> i, i've said i'm a human rightsare/yeh going giveay, >> i, i've said i'm a human rightsare/yeh going give any okay, are you going to give any more advantages to people coming to what about to this country? what about angela to angela rayner? she's going to toughen rules for working toughen up the rules for working people. to do people. what are you going to do about that? what about ed miliband his and his £28 miliband and his and his £28 billion on green? what are you going do about that every going to do about that every year mean, doesn't he year? i mean, why doesn't he address that says year? i mean, why doesn't he addgoing that says year? i mean, why doesn't he addgoing to that says year? i mean, why doesn't he addgoing to implementedls year? i mean, why doesn't he addgoing to implemented when are going to be implemented when he becomes leader? >> about cleaning up

>> speech is about cleaning up politics, can i go back to politics, but can i go back to the tax thing? is over and over again , right. rachel reeves and again, right. rachel reeves and keir starmer and all the rest have said they will not raise taxes . i mean, this have said they will not raise taxes. i mean, this is have said they will not raise taxes . i mean, this is what taxes. i mean, this is what they're putting yesterday. >> yesterday the times reported very definitive briefing from the shadow chancellor. she may cut taxes . which ones. cut taxes. which ones. >> but they've already well, i don't know do i. >> well because it's because it's hype and they're not going to tell us. >> so they're going to raise the green burden on those £28 billion come through green burden on those £28 billion taxes come through green burden on those £28 billion taxes . come through green burden on those £28 billion taxes . where hrough green burden on those £28 billion taxes . where arergh green burden on those £28 billion taxes . where are they higher taxes. where are they going to get the money from? >> called investment. >> no, it's called investment. it's called investment. it's called bankrupting country. it's called investment. it's call

school fees. yes. so families out there who are who work really, really hard and prioritise their children's education, that is going to change it. they will not be able to afford an extra 20% per child. absolutely and they will all flood into the state system child. absolutely and they will all flois into the state system child. absolutely and they will all flois alreadyz state system child. absolutely and they will all flois already overrun.rstem child. absolutely and they will all flois already overrun. let's which is already overrun. let's have quick keir have a quick listen to keir starmer again , that shows zero starmer again, that shows zero tolerance towards the darker side of westminster. >> don't get me wrong , there are >> don't get me wrong, there are good people in westminster, people who love their country and want to change it for the better. and yet a basic principle of any organisation i've worked in outside of politics that you should follow the rules you set for others , the rules you set for others, uphold the values you advocate. this just doesn't seem to be followed or understood in westminster . followed or understood in westminster. i mean, followed or understood in westminster . i mean, honestly , westminster. i mean, honestly, what does anyone think it looks like to the people of this country to see people rewarded,

honoured for crashing the economy under liz truss? if your mortgage is going up this year and you see those people swanning around the house of lords, what do you think ? no, i lords, what do you think? no, i say to all my fellow politicians , labour and tory, to change britain , we must change britain, we must change ourselves . we need to clean up ourselves. we need to clean up politics. no more vip fast lanes , no more kickbacks for colleagues , no more revolving colleagues, no more revolving doors between government and the companies they regulate . i will companies they regulate. i will restore standards in public life with a total crackdown on cronyism . i'm i've put expense cronyism. i'm i've put expense cheap politics in jail before and i didn't care if they were labour or tory. and i grew up working class , so spare me the working class, so spare me the self—serving excuses. they just

won't wash. this ends now . won't wash. this ends now. nobody will be above the law in a britain that i lead. but with respect and service , i also respect and service, i also promise this a politics that treads a little lighter on all of our lives. because as that's the thing about populism or nationalism , um, any politics nationalism, um, any politics fuelled by division , it needs fuelled by division, it needs your full attention . ian needs your full attention. ian needs your full attention. ian needs you constantly focusing on this week's common enemy , and that's week's common enemy, and that's exhausting , isn't it? on week's common enemy, and that's exhausting , isn't it ? on the exhausting, isn't it? on the other hand , a politics that other hand, a politics that aspires to national unity brings people together. the common good that's harder to express . it's that's harder to express. it's less colourful, that's harder to express. it's less colourful , fewer clicks on

less colourful, fewer clicks on social media, and in some ways it's more demanding of you . it it's more demanding of you. it asks you to moderate your political wishes out of respect for the different wishes of others . i for the different wishes of others. i mean, for the different wishes of others . i mean, 45 for the different wishes of others. i mean, 45 million voters can't get everything they want. that's democracy . so no want. that's democracy. so no matter the road the tories take this year , i believe that if this year, i believe that if people see the commitment to service is always there in politics, if they can see that people in power respect their concerns , then i think a lot of concerns, then i think a lot of people across the country after everything we've been through in the last 14 years, we'll find some hope in that it will feel different . frankly, the different. frankly, the character of politics will change and with it, character of politics will change and with it , the national change and with it, the national mood , a collective breathing mood, a collective breathing out, a burden lifted and then

the space for a more hopeful look forward . because the truth look forward. because the truth is , it's this kind of politics is, it's this kind of politics and only this kind of politics that can offer real change. the energy needed for divisive politics is a distraction. you can see that with the snp in scotland or the tories here in england and i learned this firsthand in northern ireland before the police service of northern ireland was set up . the northern ireland was set up. the idea here that the nationalist community would buy into it in any way was utterly unthinkable . any way was utterly unthinkable. now there's always more work to do on that peace in northern ireland has to won be every day , ireland has to won be every day, and yet with patient listening , and yet with patient listening, with determination , with the with determination, with the people of northern ireland coming together, not only with

those different to them, not only with those who disagreed with them , but even with those with them, but even with those who took up arms against them . who took up arms against them. the unthinkable happened. catholic men and women. >> that's keir starmer still talking. we've had some amazing emails coming in. i love this one from richard, who says soundees one from richard, who says soundbites waffle and hot air with the obligatory rolled up sleeves look, an occasional sip of water scarlett mccgwire. why do they always rolled up do they always wear rolled up sleeves and no jacket? what's this about? sleeves and no jacket? what's thisso about? sleeves and no jacket? what's thisso ab about the workers, >> so it's about the workers, man workers. mean , it man of the workers. i mean, it doesn't which party you doesn't matter which party you are in. no, i say it is. are in. no, no, i say it is. it's about. i'm going to get down to work. i'm not a stuffed suit. i can do things. >> but like richard see >> but people like richard see straight it. straight through it. >> i no, problem >> yeah, i know no, the problem with politicians is they don't understand that we can see straight through anything and what we want, what we want is brief speeches saying what they're going to do. bullet points, bullet points so that we can then say, do we agree or do

or do we disagree with them? and and this, this goes through all the parties, i have to say big and small listening. we know listening to this mike parry, i feel like i've just been trapped in the corner with the most bonng in the corner with the most boring man in the office at the christmas party. >> you're not looking at me when you're that, are, you you're saying that, are, you know, are you? >> and don't mean you and andrew. um. torture do. andrew. um. it's torture to do. >> i think this >> you know what? i think this has good. because has done him. no good. because if country like if the country reacts like our audience reacting this if the country reacts like our al an nce reacting this if the country reacts like our alan absoluteacting this if the country reacts like our al an absolute wetg this if the country reacts like our al an absolute wetg speech if the country reacts like our alan absolute wetg speech . is an absolute wet fish speech. and whilst he's been accused consistently of never coming up with policies , never having with policies, never having anything proper to say , as anything proper to say, as scarlett said, where are the bullet on your bullet points on on your policies ? this is the best policies? this is the best example of a man who hasn't got a hasn't got a clue a policy and hasn't got a clue what he's, what he's going to present to the british public because on one because he's relying on one thing, mike. >> relying the tory >> he's relying on the tory tories going down. >> you think job at >> and wouldn't you think job at that. is . but there are that. yeah, he is. but there are some economic signs this morning that. yeah, he is. but there are some they.�*mic signs this morning that. yeah, he is. but there are some they. the signs this morning that. yeah, he is. but there are some they. the interestis morning that. yeah, he is. but there are some they. the interest rates rning aren't they. the interest rates for might to for mortgages might start to come inflation is heading come down. inflation is heading down. countries looking stronger. very good retail

figures over the christmas period. that should have period. now that should have shaken him up and thought hang on. months time on. maybe in three months time i'm going to be, uh, i'm not just going to be, uh, able to rely on the tories imploding. >> i am one of those people who would consider myself to be politically homeless at the moment, wanted to moment, and i really wanted to be inspired by this. scarlett, i really did, because the chances are looking at the polls, this is to be our new prime is going to be our new prime minister. and i started watching this my hand, minister. and i started watching this for my hand, minister. and i started watching this for the my hand, minister. and i started watching this for the nuggets hand, minister. and i started watching this for the nuggets of nd, waiting for the nuggets of policy strategy and vision. policy and strategy and vision. >> got rocks of decline. >> you've got rocks of decline. >> you've got rocks of decline. >> i've what you want . we >> i've got what you want. we probably more than rocks of probably know more than rocks of decline to be crushed upon. >> but, but, but i mean, this this was not a speech about economic policy. this was a speech about about the cultural differences . between northern differences. between northern ireland, labour and tory. and i mean, it's actually about it's about wanting and wanting to change westminster , wanting to change westminster, wanting to change. but nobody cares about nobody cares. >> nobody cares about that. we know we know what's happened dunng know we know what's happened during we know the during the pandemic. we know the corruption the plumbing

corruption with the plumbing contracts which were given out to mates left, right and centre. we at michelle mone, is it we look at michelle mone, is it in papers? groan. um, in the papers? groan. yeah. um, baroness , we know that. baroness, we know all that. yeah. and we kind of have to just have faith that this won't be. it will be different, i tell you. >> agree. another cliche earlier on, know, politicians on, you know, politicians shouldn't just the feeling on, you know, politicians sh power. just the feeling on, you know, politicians sh power. well, the feeling on, you know, politicians sh power. well, why the feeling on, you know, politicians sh power. well, why did feeling on, you know, politicians sh power. well, why did healing of power. well, why did he support corbyn then ? for support jeremy corbyn then? for 2 or years, the only option in 2 or 3 years, the only option in supporting jeremy corbyn was to get into government. >> for years supported him at >> for years he supported him at a when dozens of shadow a time when dozens of shadow ministers resigned . he says he's ministers resigned. he says he's terrible. exactly. keir starmer kept kept taking kept taking them, kept taking the shilling exactly from a man who was appalling and not fit to be prime minister. >> was the i mean, there's >> it was the i mean, there's nothing in there and there was nothing in there and there was no money involved. no, there was no money involved. no, there was no no money. no money, there was no money. let's this absolute. let's get this absolute. >> was but he thought >> but he was but he thought there he'd get there might be a chance he'd get into cabinet. into his cabinet. >> what he thought was >> no. what he thought was jeremy corbyn can do jeremy corbyn said, can you do brexit? and keir thought he genuinely thought that he could get a good deal on brexit. and that's what he tried to do.

yeah, yeah. by saying by backing a second referendum to negate the first vote. >> yeah. no that's what he was. that's he up by that's what he came up by plotting with europeans plotting with the europeans to dismantle did dismantle it, not he did not. >> he he came up. he did. >> he did. he came up. he did. >> he did. he came up. he did. >> was with the figure in >> he was not with the figure in the move for second the move for a second referendum, policy, the move for a second refe plot um, policy, the move for a second refe plot with policy, the move for a second refeplot with the policy, the move for a second refeplot with the europeans:y, the move for a second refeplot with the europeans can not plot with the europeans can i is the labour party was i say is the labour party was complete split over brexit and he was trying to keep it together. yes >> so he said you may have voted in your 19 million. was it or 19.5 million to vote to leave the european union? but i'm going to put a second referendum or 17 million who didn't want to leave. >> and , and, and, and we now >> and, and, and, and we now know we now know that the polling shows are, you know, reopen the brexit argument. i'm not i am absolutely not brexit is over. we are out of the european union . there is european union. there is absolutely. which i think which which is one of the reasons we are broken. britain because actually it has been bad for us. we are out of the european union and what we now have to do is we

now have to have good trade treaties . treaties. >> but you must have seen the figures earlier this week, scholar, that uk economy is scholar, that the uk economy is set faster the next set to grow faster in the next five providing we have five years, providing we have a stable government than any other european government that that's because of brexit, that's because of brexit, that's because we're doing trade deals with like florida. we with people like florida. we might a us trade deal, might not have a us trade deal, but we've got seven states in america, each size of spain, america, each the size of spain, with whom we have got trade deals. and this country is growing well. >> but what? >> but but but what? >> but but but what? >> it'sjust >> but but but what? >> it's just oh no, >> but but but what? >> it'sjust oh no, i can't >> it's just oh no, i can't possibly say anything about brexit is positive. >> of course i can't, i can't. >> no, i was going to say the thing about forecasting right, is, is they're always wrong. i mean, you know , if they say mean, you know, if they say something that you don't like, you go, always wrong. i you go, it's always wrong. i mean, know nothing about mean, we know nothing about forecasting . forecasting. >> it's not forecasting, >> i mean, it's not forecasting, it's solid fact. we've trade it's solid fact. we've got trade deals india. we've got trade deals in india. we've got trade deals in india. we've got trade deals pacific. we've got deals in the pacific. we've got trade deals across america . and trade deals across america. and it's and it's doing us good. and we used to have deals with we used to have trade deals with all through europe. all of them through europe. so it doesn't not to the extent we

have i'm talking about is have now i'm talking about is this forecasting. >> no what's going >> we have no idea what's going to you where to happen. well you know where i think starmer's missed think keir starmer's missed a trick morning. think keir starmer's missed a tricwe've morning. think keir starmer's missed a tricwe've morrthis story that we >> we've had this story that we were going in our were going to discuss in our panel were going to discuss in our panel. but obviously we've been distracted is distracted by this, which is about that there about the fact that there are directors of companies in the city this morning who city of london this morning who will by will have earned more money by 1 pm. average person p.m. than the average person will earn in this country over a yeah will earn in this country over a year. should have opened his year. he should have opened his speech with that if he wants to make a difference to work people. i hate working class as a phrase. it doesn't mean anything anymore . why doesn't anything anymore. why doesn't he come something come out with something strong and would that as being >> he would see that as being something he could latch on to and say, look, it's an unbalanced society . i actually unbalanced society. i actually see as a very positive sign see it as a very positive sign that this is thriving. that this country is thriving. and particularly in the and people, particularly in the city london, are earning huge city of london, are earning huge amounts money, which means amounts of money, which means that are in that other people are in prosperous . i think it's prosperous jobs. i think it's a great sign. it's i think it's a great sign. it's i think it's a great sign. >> i think is actually, >> i think it is actually, i think it's appalling that people that that the difference in that are that the difference in in the people at the top and the

bottom are so enormous. i think , bottom are so enormous. i think, i mean, i'm with bev, i agree completely divided country. and i mean , one of the things that i mean, one of the things that as an arsenal supporter used to make me makes me really angry, as you have all these players and then you have the cleaners on minimum right? it on minimum wage, right? and it is absolutely wrong. and is just absolutely wrong. and the is, it's not that the point is, it's not that i mind people earning lots and lots of money. i do mind the fact that they then make sure that the people at the bottom earn as little as possible. >> don't mind as long as it >> i don't mind as long as it feels like the closing that gap is the right direction is moving in the right direction , i applaud people , which it is. i applaud people who put their house up who want to put their house up for know , to basically for low. you know, to basically set their business up and they take out debt and they risk it. i admire those people. they're up the morning up at 3:00 in the morning building these businesses. i don't penny. don't begrudge them a penny. however we've seen in last however we've seen in the last three years biggest transfer three years the biggest transfer of in the history , in of wealth in the history, in history from the have nots to the haves and i don't like that. >> but that is being rebalanced. only last month didn't we put up the wage to over £11 in

the minimum wage to over £11 in this country, highest in europe. okay, now that's very damaging this country, highest in europe. ok smallw that's very damaging this country, highest in europe. oksmall businesses.( damaging this country, highest in europe. oksmall businesses. peoplejing to small businesses. people think, can afford think, oh well, shell can afford it. you know bp can afford it. but the bloke running a bakery around with around the corner with 12 employees afford it. so employees can't afford it. so that transfer of wealth, that is a transfer of wealth, which is very positive for those on wages. but again, on lower wages. but again, scholar in a capitalist society, you have to have those who create companies and those who work for back to the press. >> because he's finally finished his lord for his speech. thank the lord for that. he's questions that. and he's taking questions from starmer for from the press. keir starmer for raising taxes, including freezing income tax thresholds . freezing income tax thresholds. >> if you don't want voters to be cynical, then level with them . if you win, power will you unfreeze income tax thresholds as well? >> anoushka, look , um, starting >> anoushka, look, um, starting from fundamental principles on this , i do want more people to this, i do want more people to have more money in their pocket. that's a fundamental principle that we start with. now the question is, how do we get to that? and challenged on tax that? and i'm challenged on tax all of the time. the first lever that we want to pull, the first place we will go is growth in

our because that's our economy. because that's what's been missing for 14 years. and without growth , we years. and without growth, we won't the money to run our won't have the money to run our pubuc won't have the money to run our public services to provide what is needed. so that's is desperately needed. so that's why we've put all of our focus on growth and on the economy now, where we are going to make adjustments to tax. we've been really clear about that really clear about what that looks so we've said what looks like. so we've said what we're going to do with vat on private the non—dom private schools. the non—dom status , the loopholes we status, the loopholes that we have. where we are making have. so where we are making adjustments be very, clear adjustments be very, very clear about it . um, adjustments be very, very clear about it. um, and as pat mcfadden said this morning on the media, um, any tax cuts have to be fair and affordable and we have to be realistic about that. but i think the place to go is to growth on this. but the idea, frankly , that the tories can frankly, that the tories can lecture anybody about tax cuts or tax rises is now ludicrous. we've got higher tax burden now than at any time since the second world war. that's every

government, including all those labour governments . so there is labour governments. so there is absolutely no position . and absolutely no position. and that's why i said centrally in this speech , if they want to this speech, if they want to fight on the economy, if they still some fantasy land still think in some fantasy land that this is strong territory for them, they don't realise how much we've turned the tables now. they don't realise just how poor a car that is for them to play. thank you. anushka, can i go to paul >> channel 4 paul mcnamara , >> channel 4 paul mcnamara, channel 4 news. um, where's your jacket? another glitter incident . sorry, sorry. wrong. wrong question. >> don't tempt fate. um, look , >> don't tempt fate. um, look, jon cruddas said he doesn't know what a keir starmer government would stand for. >> the saying comes up time and time again in focus groups. no no, your team says you've got lots of policies. you've got two pages of them. but if two years in both labour policy chiefs, former or whatever, and voters don't know what a keir starmer government would stand for, what is it you are getting wrong ? is it you are getting wrong? >> well paul, thank you for the

question . last year i set out in question. last year i set out in more detail than i think any opposition leader has ever set out before. the five driving missions of the next labour government. and i've just been through them. that higher growth , high sustained growth in the g7 , there was no lack of 67, there was no lack of clarity. there were it's very clear what that means. measured in living standards across the whole country . um, in living standards across the whole country. um, and nhs not just off its feet, but fit for the future. no lack of clarity there. nobody said what you're talking about. i don't understand the understand that. um, the opportunities that children and young people need for the skills they need their life and the they need for their life and the work they're actually going to do, you can't say, well, that's a ambiguous. i don't a bit ambiguous. i don't understand safe understand that. um, safe streets halving against streets halving violence against women what's women and girls. what's ambiguous unclear about that? ambiguous or unclear about that? and so you know, and clean power by 2030, this idea of ensuring we have lower bills , energy we have lower bills, energy security and the next generation ofjobs security and the next generation of jobs , there's no lack of of jobs, there's no lack of

clarity. there so i believe firmly that we've set out precise what we're going to do. i've also said that these will be our priority. and i've said a number of times there will be good labour things. we won't be able to do in quite the way we wanted, when we wanted. so set out in terms what we're going to do and we're going to do it, do and how we're going to do it, how achieve it. how are we going to achieve it. um, and, and i take your question as an invitation just to repeat that. so that hopefully those still claim hopefully those that still claim that we've been clear can that we've not been clear can have another chance to remind themselves of all the things i've been saying for many , many i've been saying for many, many months now. thank you very much. chris gb news. >> thank you. christopher hope gb news. you mentioned clean power there by 2030, lower bills that would mean how would you fund the 28 billion annual cost of your net zero measures from borrowing or taxes? and a quick one about the darts last night has littler's maturity and professionalism shown that 16 year olds are ready to have a vote? the voting age should be

cut from double nine to double eight. triss >> happy new year! you're the first to breach the one question on raul. i'm sure beth is going to be vying to get that position back as quickly as possible. look on clean power 2030, the first thing to say is let's be clear what the mission is, which is power. by 2030. um and is clean power. by 2030. um and thatis is clean power. by 2030. um and that is one of our five missions. and we are determined to achieve it for all the reasons i've said, because with that comes lower bills , with that comes lower bills, with that comes lower bills, with that comes lower bills, with that comes energy security . that comes energy security. putin can't put his foot on our throats, and with that comes the next generation of jobs. we've set out . out. um, how that will set out. out. um, how that will be funded. um, the, the money thatis be funded. um, the, the money that is needed for the investment that is undoubtedly needed , saying that the £28 needed, saying that the £28 billion will be ramped up in the second half of the parliament. that will be subject, of course, to any money that the government is already putting in, and it will be subject to our fiscal

rules and that means that, um , rules and that means that, um, if the money is from borrowing, which it will be borrowing to invest, but the fiscal rules don't allow it, then we'll borrow less. so it's very clear. and that's why this attack is, is utterly misconceived on us. it's a very clear strategy. and frankly , i think most people frankly, i think most people understand the argument . it's an understand the argument. it's an everyday argument that you have to invest in the future , and to invest in the future, and that's what we will do. it's the lack of investment, the lack of long tum thinking that has put us position in now. us in the position we're in now. we're more exposed on the international when it international market when it comes energy than many comes to energy than many other countries. why? because the government long, firm government never took long, firm decisions. for prepared decisions. i'm not for prepared an incoming labour government to make thank make that mistake. mark. thank you chris. um. oh, sorry. on the darts . darts. >> oh, darts. >> oh, darts. >> i mean, i mean, it's been incredible watching the darts, seeing what he has done . i'm not seeing what he has done. i'm not going to claim i watch darts every day. everybody knows football is my game. but it has

been quite an electrifying couple of days. um, and i'm a big believer in 16 year olds being able to express their views , have their vote and win views, have their vote and win darts tournaments. i thought he did brilliantly. i think everybody is incredibly, incredibly proud of him as a 16 year old with real composure, actually, as well. i mean , you actually, as well. i mean, you know, to do that on that stage, um , in that way, just up the um, in that way, just up the road from me and ali harbi ali was quite phenomenal. i thought, thank you, chris. sophie from the mirror. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> sophie huskisson from the mirror . if >> sophie huskisson from the mirror. if so, that was, um, keir starmer do you think mike parry, the sort? >> um, luke, the 16 year old actually won it. >> luke littler, who was runner up, is runner up in the world championship, and keir starmer, who admittedly said, i don't watch well if you don't watch darts. well if you don't watch darts. well if you don't watch darts, you shouldn't talk about manner which about it in a manner which suggests to of us that the suggests to all of us that the 16 year old luke littler had won the tournament. he didn't. he was another who the was another luke who won the tournament, we tournament, i'm afraid who we are talking to over 11:00.

are talking to just over 11:00. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> come on. i don't i you're a bit harsh . bit harsh. >> you too, aren't you? >> you too, aren't you? >> i think they're being a bit harsh. i what he actually harsh. i mean, what he actually said win tournament. harsh. i mean, what he actually said viyearurnament. harsh. i mean, what he actually said viyear oldsnent. harsh. i mean, what he actually said viyear olds who. harsh. i mean, what he actually said viyear olds who win >> 16 year olds who win tournament win. >> he wins a lot of tournaments. he and what he he lost last night. and what he said that which is absolutely said is that which is absolutely true an amazing 16 year true is he is an amazing 16 year old, right , true is he is an amazing 16 year old, right, lost. i mean old, right, who lost. but i mean , the fact that he lost so, so narrowly. yeah, it wasn't the other guy, obviously the other luke who you are going to talk. we are going to talk ten minutes sounds completely wonderful . sounds completely wonderful. >> he he does. >> he does, he does. >> he does, he does. >> actually the fact that he >> but actually the fact that he went amazing, incredible. >> i think ironically , the >> and i think ironically, the headunes >> and i think ironically, the headlines that have come out are going come out of the speech going to come out of the speech this morning will be what he said player. >> i totally agree. taxes and honestly, what a condemnation of a the opposition. if a leader of the opposition. if the the scribes as we the only line the scribes as we are can get out of it, is talking about a 16 year old darts player erroneously , and darts player erroneously, and not about a political policy . not about a political policy. >> this is saying something because, i mean, you've been

advising speeches advising policies and speeches for you would advising policies and speeches for all you would advising policies and speeches for all the you would advising policies and speeches for all the time,)u would advising policies and speeches for all the time, what'sld advising policies and speeches for all the time, what's the think all the time, what's the clip? what's the headline? what are they going to get out? what would headline of would be the headline out of that so far? well the that speech so far? well the headune that speech so far? well the headline one is we're headline is the one is we're going to up politics and going to clean up politics and we're make difference. >> going a britain >> we're going to make a britain will it was project hope, will be it was project hope, wasn't it? >> is what he said. project hope was his quote. >> was quote, you know, let's >> it was quote, you know, let's instead saying, look , if instead of saying, look, if we get in then we're not going to be to do amazing stuff. if be able to do amazing stuff. if we get in, we will actually, if you're struggling your you're struggling to heat your home this winter and struggling with food because of with your food bill because of food still over 6. food inflation is still over 6. >> he said there that's >> what's he said there that's going to make you think i must going to make you think i must go for him? go and vote for him? >> but i mean, well, what is he. >> what was there? what was there for that family? >> that the point is, is >> the that the point is, is that you have to be able to make speeches lot of speeches about a lot of different you different things. i'll ask you again was there different things. i'll ask you agethat was there different things. i'll ask you agethat family was there different things. i'll ask you agethat family struggling there different things. i'll ask you agethat family struggling to ere for that family struggling to pay for that family struggling to pay saying that that pay the heat, saying that that actually clean up actually if we clean up westminster politics will be better. then clean up better. and then if we clean up westminster , you don't have westminster, you don't have

somebody in to make £60 somebody you goes in to make £60 million profit on a £200 million thing. >> you are no better than me that the start of the end for john major was when he invented a campaign called back to bafics a campaign called back to basics, which meant absolutely nothing . that's about no, no, nothing. that's about no, no, no, that's when everybody realised major hasn't got realised john major hasn't got anideain realised john major hasn't got an idea in his head. what does he mean? and that was the end of john and think john major. and i think this could point for could be a turning point for keir starmer £100 billion benefits for bill people who could be in work of working age people at the moment. >> he needs to tell us how he's going to bring down that benefits bill, whilst not letting those people who need support fall through the net. yeah. >> hold on. you have no idea whether these people could be working. of them awful working. a lot of them are awful . lot of long, long . lot of them are long, long terms sick . a lot of them are terms sick. a lot of them are waiting on nhs waiting list. exactly, exactly . exactly, exactly. >> so why didn't they tackle bma are always on strike. he's going to tackle it right. >> i've got absolute rubbish. >> i've got absolute rubbish. >> who thought a keir starmer speech such speech could give rise to such debate now? hale. humph tories

cool the crown cool hand luke wins the crown for britain at the darts championship. all after the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello very good day to you. i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news, weather forecast . whilst some central parts will have decent dry, if not have some decent dry, if not sunny weather around there, showers towards the north and in the south. an area of low pressure is going push its pressure is going to push its way we go through the rest way in as we go through the rest of bringing wet but of today, bringing some wet but also blustery weather. it's the heavy rain that's most likely to cause across cause some impacts across southern counties as we go through the afternoon into the evening, the risk evening, there's the risk of some flooding also some flooding and also some travel disruption here. like i said further north, though , some said further north, though, some dry across central parts dry weather across central parts and of scotland, and across parts of scotland, northern england . plenty northern england. plenty of showers out for, showers to watch out for, perhaps more persistent showers to watch out for, perhfor. more persistent showers to watch out for, perhfor eastern nore persistent showers to watch out for, perhfor eastern scotland stent showers to watch out for, perhfor eastern scotland .tent rain for eastern scotland. temperatures near normal for the time may just about time of year may just about scrape double figures scrape into double figures somewhere as somewhere towards the south, as we through evening and we go through this evening and overnight, rain then across

overnight, more rain then across southern southeastern parts, southern and southeastern parts, pushing anglia, pushing into east anglia, perhaps lincolnshire too, so could further could cause some further problems here. rain problems here. but that rain does gradually clear away towards elsewhere towards the east. elsewhere still scattering of showers, still a scattering of showers, mainly towards the west some mainly towards the west and some clear in between. any clear skies in between. any showers and under these it could turn little chilly, perhaps turn a little chilly, perhaps a touch frost some places touch of frost in some places and also pockets of fog. and also some pockets of fog. first thing tomorrow morning through tomorrow itself, though any the east any rain lingering in the east clears away . however, across clears away. however, across eastern scotland , some eastern parts of scotland, some persistent rain a time, persistent rain for a time, perhaps sleet for shetland. perhaps some sleet for shetland. elsewhere, of elsewhere, a scattering of showers, again most likely towards western parts, though northern ireland, western scotland seeing some decent bright not sunny weather bright if not sunny weather temperatures perhaps a touch down compared to today . most down compared to today. most places in single figures places staying in single figures that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> all up next. >> all up next. >> we're very excited about it. luke humphries, the world darts champion . you're with britain's

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it's -- it's 11 am. on thursday, the 4th of january. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you. so luke humphrey , any minute now luke humphrey, any minute now we're going to be talking to the man who beat the pressure cooker of harbi ali and walked away of ali harbi ali and walked away with half £1 million. how did he

do it what it mean to do it and what does it mean to him? will find out. and him? we will find out. and starmer's strategy. >> did you listen? what did you think? keir starmer made a major speech it on rather speech today. it went on rather a and he said he's a long time. and he said he's going to seek to defeat the tories our way of doing tories in to our way of doing politics, political politics, our political correspondent has correspondent olivia utley has more. awake . more. if she stayed awake. >> yes. >> yes. >> keir starmer laid out his vision for britain today. it was more about what the tories are than what labour are. let's find out what voters thought it think very soon and the epstein files. >> prince andrew has been named a newly released court documents detailing connections with the sex offender jeffrey epstein and fat cat pay, bosses of britain's biggest companies will earn more by 1 pm. today than the typical worker will earn all year. >> hard work should surely be rewarded, but has the gap between the haves and the have nots got out of control .

nots got out of control. >> let us know your thoughts on that keir starmer speech , which that keir starmer speech, which we eviscerated . we eviscerated. >> it's too long. it's disappointing specifics. >> we're only months away, potentially from a general election. you've got to tell us more keir. show us a bit of ankle right gb views gb news. >> com is the email address. lots more to come this morning. first though, here's your very latest sanchez i >> -- >> beth thank you very much. your top stories from the gb newsroom. prince andrew, donald trump and bill clinton are among over 150 people named in us court documents detailing connections to sex offender jeffrey epstein. the unsealed files were part of a civil lawsuit against epstein's associate ghislaine maxwell, who is serving a 20 year sentence for recruiting underage girls for recruiting underage girls for him, many of those named are not accused of any wrongdoing. the document also includes an

allegation by johannes sjoberg claiming the duke of york touched her inappropriately in 2001. more documents are expected to be unsealed or unredacted in the coming days. the labour leader says he's ready for a general election, promising to stand up for working people. sir keir starmer is urging voters to reject what he calls pointless populist gestures as he seeks to set himself apart from rishi sunak dunng himself apart from rishi sunak during his new year speech. he also said the character of politics will change if labour enters power, adding the country faces a year of choice . faces a year of choice. >> i didn't expect a front row seat on this tory performance art, a song and dance for your political attention because they find performing so much easier than the hard graft of practical achievement . i know i came into achievement. i know i came into politics to serve, to get things done, to strive each and every day , to make a difference to the

day, to make a difference to the lives of working people . lives of working people. >> nhs bosses have been accused of undermining the junior doctors strike by calling them back to work. more than 20 requests have been made by hospitals in england for staff to return because of extreme pressure and patient safety fears , the british medical fears, the british medical association has accused nhs bosses of bowing to political pressure . none of the requests pressure. none of the requests have been granted so far. a six day walkout, the longest in nhs history, began yesterday in a long running dispute over pay . a long running dispute over pay. a man has been arrested and remains in custody after multiple gunshots were fired in liverpool last night. a 49 year old was arrested on suspicion of possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life and robbery. police police said it received reports of shots coming from a shop and further incidents outside a cinema, and nearby property in croxteth and norris green areas of the city. norris green areas of the city. no one was injured in any of the

incidents . the number of people incidents. the number of people putting their homes up for sale hits a record high on boxing day , property website rightmove said over 10,000 new said just over 10,000 new properties came onto the market. the biggest number of people selling since 2011. the number of buyers contacting estate agents about homes for sale also jumped and was 17% higher than on boxing day in 2022. lou littler says he has what it takes to return to win the world championship in the future, after he missed out on a historic win last night. the teenage darts sensation lost to the new world number one luke humphries, who beat him seven four. it's a landmark success for humphries, who now has won four of the last five major tournaments . littler said the tournaments. littler said the last few weeks are beyond what he imagined , and it's when one he imagined, and it's when one game come back after christmas and that was it. >> that's the only goals i set. so this is just a massive, massive bonus. no one likes losing and i've not not really

lost much. but to lose on that stage, you can't be angry at yourself . yourself. >> the number of electric cars on uk roads is expected to hit the 1 million mark this month. the rac says more than 967,000 vehicles were licensed at the end of november, up from 674,000 the year before . it said it's the year before. it said it's a major milestone, but stressed that needs to keep in perspective as electric vehicles only make up about 3% of all cars , and dramatic scenes were cars, and dramatic scenes were caught on camera inside a courtroom in las vegas as a convict launched a vicious attack . the judge was about to attack. the judge was about to give her decision on the sentence of convicted felon deborah redden, when he ran up to the bench and jumped over the furniture to assault her. shocking footage for those watching on television, he leaps over her desk, grabbing her by the hair and pulling to her the ground. when security quickly sprung into action to restrain him and drag him away.

sprung into action to restrain him and drag him away . this is him and drag him away. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now back to andrew and . bev. and. bev. >> very good morning. it's 1106. >> very good morning. it's1106. we are waiting on tenterhooks to talk to luke humphries , the talk to luke humphries, the world darts champion from last night at. and before we just go to luke, let's have a look at what some of you were saying about keir starmer. what some of you were saying about keir starmer . very boring speech. >> it's too long. disappointing why don't they just make a short speech with about eight bullet points ? soundbite. this is what points? soundbite. this is what we'll do. and this is why the tories or whatever are no good. and sit down. >> yeah , this is what we want >> yeah, this is what we want and this is how we're going to do it. oh i'm sorry we and this is how we're going to do igo)h i'm sorry we and this is how we're going to do igo straight»rry we and this is how we're going to do igo straightirrythe we and this is how we're going to do igo straightirrythe darts can go straight to the new darts champion of the world, who is of course, who won course, luke humphries, who won a victory at ali a sensational victory at ali harbi ali last night and joins us now. us now. >> us now. >> luke, morning champion. how

doesit >> luke, morning champion. how does it feel to be the world champion ? champion? >> it's incredible. um, you know , it's something i've obviously dreamed of for many, many years. and, uh, you know, to go out and do it last night in such emphatic fashion, you know, it's so , so pleasing um, you so, so pleasing for me. um, you know, worked incredibly hard for this and, you know, to go this moment and, you know, to go on win in my first world on and win in my first world final is, you know, amazing, amazing racking amazing feat. how nerve racking was ? was it? >> um , the way i played, i >> um, the way i played, i didn't show much nerves and i didn't show much nerves and i didn't feel many nerves. >> only you know, the double to win the title. obviously, if you know, my hand was shaking know, if my hand was shaking a little heart was little bit, the heart was pounding. i expected that pounding. uh, i expected that was to be the when was going to be the case when you, you got shot you, you know, got a shot at a to double world title. to double win a world title. but, you know, it did come but, uh, you know, it did come out in my hand. lovely. the second uh, you know, second dart. and, uh, you know, i to hold nerves in i managed to hold the nerves in pretty well. >> sounded when >> luke. it sounded a bit when you as though the you walked out as though the crowd booing you, though crowd were booing you, as though you'd the pantomime you'd been cast as the pantomime villain. all of this villain. because of all of this attention littler being attention on luke littler being 16 did feel like 16 years old. did it feel like that in the stadium ?

that in the stadium? >> uh, no. i thought the crowd were fantastic. of course, you know, the fairy tale was for luke littler to win. and, uh , luke littler to win. and, uh, you know, i think that they all would have, would have loved to have because, have seen him win because, uh, it was a fairy tale story it was it was a fairy tale story . uh, know, i thought . but, uh, you know, i thought the fantastic. they . but, uh, you know, i thought the the fantastic. they . but, uh, you know, i thought the the game|tastic. they . but, uh, you know, i thought the the game to ;tic. they . but, uh, you know, i thought the the game to flow'hey . but, uh, you know, i thought the the game to flow ,|ey . but, uh, you know, i thought the the game to flow , uh, allowed the game to flow, uh, allowed the game to flow, uh, allowed both to the allowed us both to be at the best our ability. and, uh, best of our ability. and, uh, you know, we put on one of the great world finals there has been. and uh, it was, you know, a privilege to be a part of it. >> you put what world darts >> and you put what world darts is really on the internet is now really on the internet map, isn't it? because everybody's talking about it. everybody's talking about you. and it's worth, both and for what it's worth, we both wanted and for what it's worth, we both warwell, thank you. yeah. i >> well, thank you. yeah. i mean, uh, the sport has grown to emphatic levels, you know, especially with what luke little has done this year. uh, this sort of tournament. um, but, yeah , you know, got we've yeah, you know, we've got we've got world champion , you got a young world champion, you know, young prospect luke. got a young world champion, you kthink young prospect luke. got a young world champion, you kthink it'oung prospect luke. got a young world champion, you kthink it was; prospect luke. got a young world champion, you kthink it was the)spect luke. got a young world champion, you kthink it was the youngest_uke. i think it was the youngest combined age in a world final eveh combined age in a world final ever. um, the sport's growing to massive uh, you massive heights, and, uh, you know, like, you know, know, i feel like, you know, i've bearer i've got to be the flag bearer for the now and, uh, carry for the sport now and, uh, carry

my way throughout the pdc and, you hard and and you know, work hard and try and achieve more. >> you are doing that. >> and you are doing that. but yet we're talking about yet again, we're talking about luke want to talk luke littler. i want to talk about luke humphries, about you, luke humphries, because own because you've had your own remarkable journey, haven't you, to get you said last night to get here. you said last night in your post—match speech how actually struggled with actually you struggled with depression and anxiety so badly at one point that it was affecting . affecting your darts. >> yeah, it did affect my darts. and, you know, i did go through some adversity. many, you know, 3 or 4 years ago. um, and you know, there were there were times know, didn't know, there were there were timelike know, didn't know, there were there were timelike this know, didn't know, there were there were timelike this was know, didn't know, there were there were timelike this was going didn't know, there were there were timelike this was going toiidn't know, there were there were timelike this was going to bei'l know, there were there were timelike this was going to be a feel like this was going to be a possibility. like a possibility. i felt like being a professional dart player, it wasn't work for me. wasn't going to work out for me. but battled through them but i battled through them problems. you know, everybody. there's lots of people that out there that struggle and i think they'll this sort of they'll look at this sort of story and be, you know, inspired they'll look at this sort of stoit and be, you know, inspired they'll look at this sort of stoit because, you know, inspired they'll look at this sort of stoit because, you iknow, nspired by it because, you know, obviously that. obviously i believe that. >> how you get through it, >> how did you get through it, luke? there somebody in luke? was there somebody in particular luke? was there somebody in particultit, perhaps family or through it, perhaps family or your girlfriend? >> no, myself, know, did >> no, myself, i you know, i did it learned to it all myself. i learned to realise triggers of what realise the triggers of what was, you know, affecting me. um, and i battled through them and, uh, with

uh, you know, obviously with the help family and friends help of my family and friends and stuff like that, and, you know, helped me through know, they all helped me through it. did. and uh, it. they really did. and uh, yeah, i pay to them for yeah, i pay homage to them for helping me through hard times. >> you got mentally and you >> you got mentally fit and you got fit got really physically fit because a ton of because you lost a ton of weight, you? how you weight, didn't you? how did you do january. a lot of do that? it's january. a lot of people watching this and people are watching this and thinking got few thinking they've got a few pounds christmas. pounds to lose after christmas. how it? how did you manage it? >> did it. you know, the >> i just did it. you know, the most natural way is , you know, most natural way is, you know, to a healthy, balanced to eat a healthy, balanced lifestyle. and you know, lifestyle. um, and you know, work out a little bit, you know, you don't have to exercise. incredibly, an incredible amounts. doing, amounts. you know, i was doing, like, on an like, half an hour on an exercise day and, uh, exercise bike every day and, uh, you know, eating you you know, just eating clean, you know, eating, you know, the right uh, you know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou uh, you know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put uh, you know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put your uh, you know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put your mind'ou know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put your mind to know, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put your mind to itnow, know, eating, you know, the rigyou put your mind to it and if you put your mind to it and believe going to do it, believe you're going to do it, then you can. and, uh, yeah, it was something in was definitely something in the back always back of my mind that i've always wanted and, uh, you know, wanted to do. and, uh, you know, it was a catalyst my success. it was a catalyst to my success. it was when this it really was when this championship did championship started, did you think a second, that think for a second, luke, that you the champion you would end up as the champion of at 28? there was of the world at 28? there was a little part of me inside that said this was a possibility

because obviously i was the pre—tournament favourite. you know, everybody sort of expected this in a um, so this outcome in a way. um, so yeah, was a little part of yeah, there was a little part of me believed could be me that believed this could be true , but there's little true, but then there's a little party you know, party that thinks, you know, it's it can never it's a dream. it can never happen you. um, but it can. happen to you. um, but it can. and it did. so yeah, it's still it's still to me, feels a little unfair that in on the morning after amazing the after your amazing victory, the front pages have still got luke littler . littler. >> they've got the guy who lost on the front pages this morning. did sting little ? did that sting a little? >> um, i've not looked at the front pages to me. there's nothing else that matters in the media. i've got what i wanted right here. the world champion in trophy. so in the world trophy. so regardless of what on the front pages, i'm, you know, i'm not in this for the fame or to be this game for the fame or to be on the front pages of newspapers. i'm, you know, in it to multiple world to be multiple, multiple world champion. got my first champion. and i got my first day. know, nothing else day. you know, so nothing else matters good for matters to me. good for you. >> what next you, luke? >> and what next for you, luke? the oyster. you're the world is your oyster. you're the of world. the champion of the world. there'll agents clamouring

there'll be agents clamouring for good for your services. you're a good looking very looking bloke. you're very talented. you're world champion at next? at 28. what next? >> uh, i'm not really sure. you know, obviously i've. it's important for me now to work hard and achieve more . hard and try and achieve more. you love to go on you know, i'd love to go on and create a massive legacy for myself you know, one of myself to be, you know, one of the dart players that's myself to be, you know, one of the been dart players that's myself to be, you know, one of the been . dart players that's myself to be, you know, one of the been . um,: players that's myself to be, you know, one of the been . um, you yers that's myself to be, you know, one of the been . um, you know,|at's ever been. um, you know, obviously, achieved obviously, i've achieved everything that is possible. world number one, world champion, . you champion, major champion. you know, lot of things know, there's a lot of things that still left achieve. that are still left to achieve. but achieved most the but i've achieved the most the most i in most gracious things i can in this it's this sport. so now it's important for you know, to important for me, you know, to dedicate carry myself dedicate work hard, carry myself in a, in importantly in a, in an importantly good manner because , you manner for the pdc because, you know, i'm the flagbearer the know, i'm the flagbearer for the sport and, you i'm sport and, uh, you know, i'm really forward really looking forward to, you know, going a very, know, what's going to be a very, very busy 2024 for me. >> you've got a baby >> and you've got a baby and you've stepdaughter as you've got a stepdaughter as well. now, if i won half £1 million last night, i can promise you, my daughter, who looks about the same age as yours, have shopping yours, would have a shopping list this morning list handed to me this morning of do you of what she wants. how do you manage the family and manage it within the family and keep the kids feet on the ground? yeah well, we've just had christmas, so , you know,

had christmas, so, you know, it's hard to start giving out more presents, but, uh, you know, she, my stepdaughter is amazing, though she doesn't, uh, expect anything, but obviously i'll treat her things i'll treat her to more things because, you know, she longs because, you know, she she longs she at school . she works hard at school. >> she'll the rewards. >> um, she'll get the rewards. and, uh , know, really, and, uh, you know, i'm really, really you know, really strict on you know, making she does does making sure she does does work hard school. uh, you hard at school. and, uh, you know, obviously get know, she'll obviously get a present, but it's important not to know, over her to you know, over spoil her because, think she's because, you know, i think she's overwhelmed by the whole scenario there. is new to scenario there. this is new to her, just is new me, her, just as it is to new me, but, uh, yeah, we're all going her, just as it is to new me, buenjoy yeah, we're all going her, just as it is to new me, buenjoy iteah, we're all going her, just as it is to new me, buenjoy it as, we're all going her, just as it is to new me, buenjoy it as, vfamily.l going her, just as it is to new me, buenjoy it as, vfamily. and,|g to enjoy it as a family. and, uh, really all proud, uh, we're really all proud, uh, as a whole. as a whole group. >> you planning a >> luke, are you planning a celebration in. >> yeah, well, kind of. yeah. i mean, i'm going to go mean, next week i'm going to go back newbury back to my hometown in newbury and, go to the and, uh, you know, go to the crucible which is my, my crucible club, which is my, my local place, near me. local place, local club near me. and, have all my friends and and, uh, have all my friends and family that you family there that have, you know, over the years know, support me over the years and to because and give back to them because it's to remember your it's important to remember your roots, were roots, the people that were there at the start. um, there for you at the start. um, so going to make sure that so i'm going to make sure that l, so i'm going to make sure that i, you know, i get i to see i, you know, i get i get to see all and celebrate with them all them and celebrate with them

because, know, it's because, you know, it's important to share them. incredible people important to share them. incre always people important to share them. incre always believed people important to share them. incre always believed you people important to share them. incre always believed you were�*ple that always believed you were going champion and going to be world champion and world and there's world number one. and there's many did say it. many people that did say it. >> i a crowd is going to >> i bet a big crowd is going to turn to see and you go turn out to see you and you go back to newbury. luke >> there's be >> yeah, there's going to be quite few that are quite a few people that are going to want to see me. uh, and it's going to quite, you going to want to see me. uh, and it's goag to quite, you going to want to see me. uh, and it's goa busy quite, you going to want to see me. uh, and it's goa busy nightte, you going to want to see me. uh, and it's goa busy night for you going to want to see me. uh, and it's goa busy night for ybut know, a busy night for me. but uh, you know, i've got a lot of commitments to do and a lot of commitments to do and a lot of commitments to do and a lot of commitments to but, uh, commitments to fulfil, but, uh, that's definitely a commitment that's definitely a commitment that i want to fulfil is, you know, all my friends know, seeing all my friends and family, you know, in one room will celebrate together, will celebrate all together, i think, what found so think, as well, what i found so moving last night. >> you'll be pleased know >> and you'll be pleased to know luke, first time, luke, for the first time, i watched whole match from luke, for the first time, i wathtoi whole match from luke, for the first time, i wathto finish, le match from luke, for the first time, i wathto finish, and match from luke, for the first time, i wathto finish, and i match from luke, for the first time, i wathto finish, and i paidatch from luke, for the first time, i wathto finish, and i paid my from start to finish, and i paid my 1199 to sky to be able to get that it's seeing that darts pass. it's seeing the culmination of years of commitment sport from from commitment to a sport from from young you are still young people. and you are still young people. and you are still young i know is young at 28. i know luke is spectacularly young at 16, but do inspire do you hope that you inspire that generation to get them do you hope that you inspire thatheir generation to get them do you hope that you inspire thatheir screenstion to get them do you hope that you inspire thatheir screens andto get them do you hope that you inspire thatheir screens and get et them do you hope that you inspire thatheir screens and get them m off their screens and get them at and throwing those at the hockey and throwing those darts over again? how at the hockey and throwing those da|you over again? how at the hockey and throwing those da|you keep over again? how at the hockey and throwing those da|you keep that er again? how at the hockey and throwing those da|you keep that momentum)w at the hockey and throwing those da|you keep that momentum going? do you keep that momentum going? >> mean, you know, one >> yeah, i mean, you know, one of the things i've learned,

especially you know, with my stepdaughter, kids to be stepdaughter, kids love to be glued their and glued to their ipads and their phones, ipad, phones, you know, put your ipad, put phone down, ask mom and put your phone down, ask mom and dad dart board, dad for a dart board, get on that you never that dart board and you never know what can happen. you know, you could like me, you could you could be like me, the you could the world champion. you could be the world champion. you could be the champion, you the world champion. you could be the so, champion, you the world champion. you could be the so, uh, champion, you the world champion. you could be the so, uh, you mpion, you the world champion. you could be the so, uh, you know, you the world champion. you could be the so, uh, you know, it's] know? so, uh, you know, it's important that kids, uh, you know, more fun activities know, do more fun activities and, you know, darts and, uh, you know, darts is growing massively. and if you want part, then, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. part, then, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's part, then, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's a part, then, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's a it's , then, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's a it's athen, uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's a it's a it's , uh, you growing massively. and if you wan be. it's a it's a it's ajh, you can be. it's a it's a it's a growing sport. and i think in the next ten years it's going to grow unprecedented levels. grow to unprecedented levels. >> were when >> how old were you when you started playing? >> i think about 11 or 12 >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when started throwing >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when but;tarted throwing >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when but iarted throwing >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when but i won throwing >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when but i won a1rowing >> i think i was about 11 or 12 when but i won a singles properly, but i won a singles title year at 13. title my first ever year at 13. in the men's division. uh, i think that's when a lot of people sort of thought there was a talent um, and then a talent there. um, and then obviously, i generally obviously, you know, i generally slowly myself up, you know, slowly got myself up, you know, the you know, the the rankings in you know, the lower levels and then got my tour and it's been, you tour card and it's been, you know, an upwards since then know, an upwards rise since then is is it kind sport is it is it the kind of sport where you'll straight away where you'll know straight away if picks up dart if your kid picks up the dart and go, you'll know and has a go, you'll know instantly whether they're talented or not? >> the kind of thing

>> or is it the kind of thing that you genuinely can learn to do world class level ? do to a world class level? >> yeah. i mean , there is some >> yeah. i mean, there is some there is some sort of ability or some sort of natural talent involved in being a good dart player. um, but there's nothing to hard work and to say with hard work and dedication you can't, you dedication that you can't, you know , be great without having know, be great without having that there's that ability. you know, there's many, you many, many players that you know, to work harder know, have had to work harder than to to, get where than others to to, get where they but, you know, they are. but, uh, you know, even if you're not going to be, you know, a professional dart player, a great sport just player, it's a great sport just to know, to play as a hobby. you know, it's like you it's fun. i think, like you said, you you manage to watch the whole game. uh last night and, got yourself glued on and, uh, got yourself glued on it loving it and you're, you're loving watching know, watching now. so, uh, you know, it's hobby to be it's a great hobby to be involved in if it's not going to be a professional as well. be a professional level as well. >> literally just >> is training literally just stood throwing >> is training literally just stood over throwing >> is training literally just stood over and throwing >> is training literally just stood over and tagainig darts over and over again because tennis because you think about tennis players things . players do different things. swimmers will do some land work and work. are you and some water work. are you just stood there all day? how many hours are you doing many hours a day are you doing that for? >> yeah, i mean there's a lot more harder work than just throwing darts. you know,

there's practice routines that you do to, you know, to you know, if you just thrown at a dart board, it's you have dart board, it's just you have to routines and to do practice routines and stuff. easy as that. stuff. it's not as easy as that. but i used to but uh, you know, i used to practice lot longer than i do practice a lot longer than i do now. you know, i play a so, now. you know, i play a lot, so, you know, days that i'm you know, the days that i'm not playing, you know, playing, i like to, you know, spend with my family and not practising. i am practising. but if i am practising, then it's usually about um, but about two hours a day. um, but there is players that there is other players that practice day. just practice six hours a day. just all depends you how all depends on, you know, how much and how much much time you have and how much you dedicate yourself to you want to dedicate yourself to the sport. >> and i'll tell you what i realised night watching realised last night watching it. how bad i am at mental arithmetic. you arithmetic. because are you adding i asked twitter adding up, luke? i asked twitter this last night like do you have to good mental arithmetic this last night like do you have to actually mental arithmetic this last night like do you have to actually mentaonrithmetic this last night like do you have to actually mentaon twitteric this last night like do you have to not ally mentaon twitteric this last night like do you have to not necessarily on twitteric this last night like do you have to not necessarily . n twitteric said not necessarily. >> uh, i think it's sort of a memory thing. i think, you know, the ways to go. and that's another good thing for young kids. if they to, you know, kids. if they want to, you know, get this sport, is that it get into this sport, is that it really does your really does help your maths. yeah. my yeah. going back to my stepdaughter, incredible stepdaughter, she is incredible at she loves to stand at maths and she loves to stand there board count my there at the board and count my scores stuff. and you

scores up and stuff. and you know, it is it is good for good for kids with maths and stuff. so uh, you know, obviously it is incredibly important that, you know, all routes know, you know, all these routes you know, what you're going for before but, before you throw in. um, but, you played you know, once you've played this long time, all this game for a long time, all these of, uh, routes these sort of, uh, routes that you do a lot easier. it you do become a lot easier. it just from memory. instinctive. >> are you going to get a bit, have a bit of time off now, or have a bit of time off now, or have you got another tournament lined up? world champ? >> , i've probably a busy >> um, i've probably got a busy calendar. i've got, um, i think i'm in a pro—am on on saturday in germany . i'm in a pro—am on on saturday in germany. um, and i think i'm meeting the prime minister tomorrow once to to, see me. so, uh, i've got. yeah so uh, you know, i've got. yeah so i've got some, busy i've got some, uh, some busy things something you're things to do. something you're going to think. so. so, uh . yes, going to think. so. so, uh. yes, i think so. so yeah, that would be an exciting moment for me. and, uh, you know, a privilege to there. so i've got to be there. um, so i've got a lot of commitments, so not much. not time for a for a relax. not much time for a for a relax. >> your darts board with >> take your darts board with you let's see how good rishi you and let's see how good rishi sunak can the sunak is. see if he can hit the bullseye . bullseye. >> yeah, i'll let you know how

it goes. >> that's an exciting invitation. what else has come invitation. what else has come in so far ? luke? i know it's in so far? luke? i know it's early days. it's the morning after. you're still after. i mean, you're still wearing shirt. you had wearing the same shirt. you had on last night. presume you've on last night. i presume you've been bed? yeah. on last night. i presume you've bee no, bed? yeah. on last night. i presume you've bee no, bernoteah. on last night. i presume you've bee no, bernot the same shirt >> no, it's not the same shirt it looks same. it looks the same. >> a different okay, >> it's a different one. okay, good. um, what else is on good. um, but what else is on the for because you the cards for you? because you know you're to start know what? you're going to start getting a celebrity. maybe know what? you're going to start getthe a celebrity. maybe know what? you're going to start getthe end a celebrity. maybe know what? you're going to start getthe end of zelebrity. maybe know what? you're going to start getthe end of thisirity. maybe know what? you're going to start getthe end of this year maybe know what? you're going to start getthe end of this year and be for the end of this year and celebrity bake off and possibly strictly dancing. strictly come dancing. luke humphries, those do you humphries, which of those do you think to your think would play to your strengths ? strengths? >> first of all, i'd never have the time to do it because the calendar is so busy and the world championship that the world championship that the world championships the end world championships at the end of uh, of the year. so, uh, unfortunately, that's them sort of to wait of things would have to wait until but, uh, you until i retire. but, uh, you know, exciting see know, it'd be exciting to see what of, opportunities what sort of, uh, opportunities come way. you know, i've come my way. you know, i've opened possibility now to opened up the possibility now to a of but, you know, a lot of things, but, you know, if i could pick one thing if i if i could pick one thing in the future to do reality if i if i could pick one thing in theit uture to do reality if i if i could pick one thing in theit definitely) reality if i if i could pick one thing in theit definitely) rei'm( wise, it definitely be i'm a celebrity because i love watching that. quite an watching that. it's quite an incredible show. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> would you be eating >> how would you be eating kangaroo luke

kangaroo testicles? luke >> no comment. >> no comment. >> out of all the weird questions you've had this morning and no doubt you've had many, i imagine is top of many, i imagine that is top of the well, congratulate us the list. well, congratulate us from of us here at gb news. from all of us here at gb news. >> well done champion. >> well done champion. >> yeah. done. absolutely. >> well done champion. >> yetyou done. absolutely. >> well done champion. >> yetyou (much. bsolutely. >> well done champion. >> yetyou (much. thankzly. >> well done champion. >> yetyou (much. thank you >> well done champion. >> much u (much. thank you >> well done champion. >>much . (much. thank you >> well done champion. >>much . and (much. thank you >> well done champion. >>much . and honestly,1ank you >> well done champion. >> much . and honestly,1ana you >> well done champion. >>much . and honestly,1ana mum so much. and honestly, as a mum of three as well, are of three as well, you are inspiring next generation. inspiring the next generation. so get off those so as you say, get off those screens and go and sort screens and go and do some sort of sport. luke humphries uh, of sport. uh, luke humphries uh, fantastic darts world fantastic new darts world champion . champion. >> thanks for >> congratulations. thanks for joining us. right. >> what a nice guy. nice guy. >> what a nice guy. nice guy. >> no ego i love that. >> no ego i love that. >> and we speculated, didn't we? would be messages from would there be messages from politicians messages politicians there? messages from politicians? the prime minister's there as politicians? the prime mclass. "s there as politicians? the prime mclass. he there as politicians? the prime mclass. he has there as politicians? the prime mclass. he has come; as politicians? the prime mclass. he has come and as politicians? the prime mclass. he has come and have a a class. he has come and have a cup of tea with me. be a great photo. >> you will be a great photo course. he has. and did you hear that on. i'm that he'd like to go on. i'm a celebrity. get me out of here! >> juices are on the phone all day. >> i imagine they are. but also the that he's saying he's the fact that he's saying he's not on not bothered, that he's not on the pages, that none the front pages, and that none of that will get in the way until he's finished sporting career. >> $- w- career. >> but he's got years >> yeah, but he's got years ahead a hero, right? more to

>> he's a hero, right? more to come this morning, fat cat bosses are going to earn more by 1:00 than typical 1:00 today than the typical worker

eamonn and isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. >> 1124 with britain's newsroom on gb news, andrew and bev. we're still on a bit of a high after that fabulous interview with what with luke humphries. what a nice, he's going to be nice, nice guy. he's going to be a great ambassador for darts, isn't a great ambassador for darts, isn'yeah. aren't lucky? >> yeah. aren't we lucky? that was of him to join us was so nice of him to join us this morning.

was so nice of him to join us thisnow ning. was so nice of him to join us thisnow prince andrew's >> now prince andrew's among a number high figures number of high profile figures named in us court documents released detailing released today detailing connections with the sex paedophile jeffrey paedophile offender jeffrey epstein, maxwell told epstein, ghislaine maxwell told her lawyers that she was worried about being questioned on her relationship prince andrew. relationship with prince andrew. >> we're joined now by former royal correspondent for the sun, charles rea, and our very own royal correspondent. um cameron walker. charles um, let's come to you. first of all, this morning , none of this to you. first of all, this morning, none of this is a particular surprise that prince andrew is in these documents, but have we learned anything new? >> uh, yes, new? >> uh, yes, we new? >> uh, yes, we have learned a couple of things. new um, we certainly have. and i'm not sure how many more nails we can actually put into prince andrew's coffin, because there's enough there already. but what we learn is that there is a we do learn is that there is a lady called jane doe three. she's not named, but she has made a statement in which she claims that epstein , uh, ordered claims that epstein, uh, ordered her to have sex with prince andrew. so this is a second lead. at least a second lady. um and that she had to give him

whatever she wants . there's also whatever she wants. there's also a statement that he was involved in an underage orgy as well, which doesn't come out very well. uh, for andrew or, in fact, royal family uh, we also have confirmed , if you like, have confirmed, if you like, from a lady called joanna. um, so draghi, who has claimed that she sat on andrew's lap to next virginia giuffre, the lady who claims that she had sex with prince andrew. and they brought out a spitting image puppet . the out a spitting image puppet. the puppefs out a spitting image puppet. the puppet's hand was put on the breast of virginia and then, uh, joanna says that andrew's uh, hand was put on her breast. now, initially in her statement, she said that she was willing to sit on his knee and she saw nothing wrong with the hand on. i don't know if that's changed at all, but that's what she said at the time. so all of this is just tawdry. but the most important thing is not just a thing is that this is not just a one day wonder. these documents ,

one day wonder. these documents, they're to out on a they're going to come out on a rolling . yes. so we're rolling basis. yes. so we're going more more stuff going to get more and more stuff off practically every day. and i should imagine that prince andrew is going to be sitting at windsor lodge with his heads in his hands, even though denies his hands, even though he denies all they keep all these allegations. they keep coming . coming. >> and of course, charles, he can deny them till he's blue in the but know he paid the face. but we know he paid £12 million to virginia giuffre, a claims didn't a woman he claims he didn't meet. the question meet. and it begs the question again, talking again, which we were talking about earlier program , about earlier in the program, should the king really have had prince by side prince prince andrew by his side at sandringham christmas day ? at sandringham on christmas day? >> well, i listened to cameron this morning think he was , this morning and i think he was, and i agree with him . there's and i agree with him. there's two there's two sorts to the windsors . there is the official windsors. there is the official side of the windsor where you wouldn't let andrew anywhere side of the windsor where you woul anything ndrew anywhere side of the windsor where you woulanything royal, anywhere side of the windsor where you woulanything royal, anythere's near anything royal, but there's a side . he's still, a family side. he's still, despite everything that goes on, he's still a member the he's still a member of the family and loves him . family and he loves him. >> he loves his brother and he loves him. >> kwasi he still? he's >> kwasi does he still? he's still brother, but you still a brother, but you. you would that the king would have thought that the king giving allegations have giving these allegations have come out today would be

come out again today would be having a chat with andrew and saying things like, you know, what is going on here? you've already denied everything, but they coming out . there they keep coming out. there must be to this , you be something more to this, you know. what evidence have you got, andrew, defend yourself got, andrew, to defend yourself against these allegations? >> cameron? are any of these statements taken from the court testimony, evidence of anything that prince andrew might have done that was illegal as opposed to? i think charles used the perfect word there, which is just behaviour . just tawdry behaviour. >> yeah, well, there's nothing there that we haven't already seen in media articles over the last six years since this defamation case between ghislaine maxwell, who's jeffrey epstein's ex—girlfriend, and virginia giuffre, who's prince andrew's sex accuser , came out, andrew's sex accuser, came out, the difference here is that all of this now is in, um, sworn testimony in court documents, which is a whole nother level in terms of in in terms of what potentially could come out . will potentially could come out. will it persuade alleged other victims to now come forward with new evidence? it's a big

headache for prince andrew, who has always denied all allegations made against him. as you just alluded to, andrew there, of course , he's been seen there, of course, he's been seen in public with the king and the royal family on christmas day in the summer. he was photographed with prince william in a car at balmoral, driving with the princess of wales of source close to me has has suggest that prince william was not particularly happy about that particular, um uh, idea . um, particular, um uh, idea. um, however, these kind of allegations have clearly haunted prince andrew for a number of years now. the most serious, um, as charles just said, was to do with johanna schober and putting a hand on his breast, buckingham palace at her breast, even buckingham palace at time buckingham palace at the time denies those allegations when it came out media interviews . came out in media interviews. but of course now it's in written testimony. >> charles, there's absolutely no prospect, is there, that this man is ever going to return to pubuc man is ever going to return to public any shape or public life in any shape or form. mean, any time, ever. form. i mean, any time, ever. >> you and i have got more chance of being andrew than

chance of being king andrew than he becoming or becoming he has of becoming or becoming a member, a member, working member, a member, a working member, a member, a working member of family. member of the royal family. again, perfectly honest, again, to be perfectly honest, he's there nothing he's finished. there is nothing he's finished. there is nothing he can remember when he made he can do. remember when he made his payment to his statement on the payment to virginia giuffre? he said was virginia giuffre? he said he was going to dedicate his life to a charity that supported women who were trafficked, sex trafficked, but he hasn't done anything and i can't believe there's one charity in this world that would want him as a figurehead or anything involved at all with him. the course he should be going down is, if you remember, in 1963, john profumo , the in 1963, john profumo, the former um, war minister in the christine keeler affair, he went off and he did charity work. no show, no sign of any publicity. he just went and did it. and i don't know if that's possible for andrew because he's such a well known figure and possibly too lazy. >> maybe , to do that if rumours >> maybe, to do that if rumours are to to be be believed. it's not easy to live your not an easy way to live your life, is it, cameron? we won't expect, i imagine, statement expect, i imagine, any statement from this, as from the palace about this, as usual. no >> buckingham no longer >> buckingham palace no longer represent duke of since

represent the duke of york since he forced back a he was forced to step back as a working of royal working member of the royal family i have contacted his office. there has been no response far, prince response so far, but prince andrew lot after all andrew has lost a lot after all of this, hasn't he? he was stripped of his military titles by queen ii. he's no by queen elizabeth ii. he's no longer a working the longer a working member of the royal but is still royal family, but he is still a member family, royal family, but he is still a membis family, royal family, but he is still a membis why family, royal family, but he is still a membis why perhaps family, royal family, but he is still a membis why perhaps we amily, royal family, but he is still a membis why perhaps we see y, royal family, but he is still a membis why perhaps we see him which is why perhaps we see him at occasions. do at private family occasions. do we where got that we ever know where he got that money pay his £12 money from to pay his £12 million to his accuser? >> was that his personal money? >> was that his personal money? >> know he >> not officially. we know he gets military pension gets a small military pension from his time in the navy. in terms other it's terms of any other assets. it's been that he sold his been reported that he sold his swiss chalet in switzerland to help pay for that. of course, he would have got some as will geddes hardship inheritance. we were could were never sure how he could afford the first place, afford that in the first place, though, it was about £17 though, because it was about £17 million, wasn't it? yeah, it's just speculation. just lots of speculation. perhaps he got inheritance from the simply don't know. >> okay. thank you both. gentlemen brilliant. cameron walker and charles rea now, still this morning, the still to come this morning, the spy who offended the british spy who offended me. the british film warned film institute has warned that james offence . is

james bond may cause offence. is all that womanising, andrew. all that fraternising don't watch it. >> then. it's easy. it.— >> then. it's easy. you it. >> then. it's easy. you don't. nobody drags people to cinema screens, all to their tvs . screens, all to their tvs. screens. don't complain . screens. don't complain. >> how very old fashioned of you. all of that. i'm much more after your morning's news with tatiana sanchez . bev thank you tatiana sanchez. bev thank you very much. >> and good morning. 1132 this is the latest from the newsroom. prince andrew, donald trump and bill clinton are among over 150 people named in us court documents detailing connection to sex offender jeffrey epstein . to sex offender jeffrey epstein. the unsealed files were part of a civil lawsuit against epstein's associate ghislaine maxwell, who , serving a 20 year maxwell, who, serving a 20 year sentence for recruiting underage girls for him. many of those named are not accused of any wrongdoing. the document also includes an allegation by johannesburg claiming the duke of york touched her inappropriately in 2001. more documents are expected to be

unsealed or unredacted in the coming days . unsealed or unredacted in the coming days. nhs bosses have been accused of undermining the junior doctors strike by calling them back to work . more than 20 them back to work. more than 20 requests have been made by hospitals for their return because of extreme pressure on services. the british medical association has criticised the move and in a letter said it has nothing to do with patient safety, suggests instead that nhs england is bowing to political pressure. none of the requests have been granted so far . the the labour leader says far. the the labour leader says he's ready for a general election, promising to stand up for working people. sir keir starmer is urging voters to reject what he calls pointless populist gestures as he seeks to set himself apart from rishi sunak during his new year speech. he also said the character of politics will change if labour wins power and the country now faces a year of choice . and luke littler has choice. and luke littler has maintained and high spirits

despite losing in the world dans despite losing in the world darts championship final , saying darts championship final, saying he'll come back stronger. 16 year old littler lost to the new world number one luke humphries, who beat him seven four last night. it's a landmark success for humphries , who has now won for humphries, who has now won four of the last five major tournament he says he'll donate some of his prize money to prostate cancer uk . you . can get prostate cancer uk. you. can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com . visiting our website gbnews.com. >> for exclusive, limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy, rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2705 and ,1.1599. the price of gold, £1,611.81 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at

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>> very good morning. it's 1139 >> very good morning. it's1139 with britain's newsroom and a very natalie andrew pierce talking to former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire and mike parry is also here trying to find out what she really thinks about keir boring speech. keir starmer's boring speech. >> think know what she >> and i think i know what she really but i think really thinks, but i think she'll something. she'll say something. >> was it off the was it >> was it off the record? was it off the record, scarlett actually. >> well, we were talking about was the office scandal, was the post office scandal, which probably all which is i think probably all four us agree, a great drama. four of us agree, a great drama. >> mr bates post. >> mr bates versus post. >> mr bates versus post. >> we're going talk about >> we're going to talk about that in just a moment. also that in just a moment. but also i mike perry. i was talking to mike perry. he's a storm injury this he's got a storm injury this morning of morning andrew. he came out of his what happened mike. his house. what happened mike. >> well i go out morning >> well i go out every morning at to my papers at about 6:20 to get my papers because news, my news paper because my news, my news paper shops old fashioned. shops nearby, old fashioned. you know, handle newspapers. know, you can handle newspapers. and intimately. and i know the road intimately. so at phone, so i'm looking at my phone, walking and straight walking along and bang straight in had in my face. a branch had split off and i walked off the tree and i walked straight into it, they make straight into it, and they make brookside. it's done a bit of, but at first i thought i'd been

stung by a bee. it was that, you know, it was that. what was that? you know what i mean? but it anyway, mike, you're very >> but anyway, mike, you're very on trend and young to be walking around phone. on trend and young to be walking aroun> let's talk about this fat cat britain . mike, you think britain story. mike, you think this might be good news for bosses at the britain's biggest companies ? will earned more companies? will have earned more by today than by lunchtime. 1:00 today than the average earner in this country. put some flesh on the bones. have you country. put some flesh on the bones . have you got the numbers? bones. have you got the numbers? you've got the numbers ? you've got the numbers? >> uh, ft . kc. >> yeah. now the, uh, ft. kc. that's a ftse. uh chief executive average chief executive average chief executive at the top now takes home £3.81 million, which is over nearly 3.81 million, nearly 4 million, which is over 109 times more than the average salary in this country, which is , i think, a quite respectable 34,963. but the reason i like this story is because for years i've been against those people who think profit is a dirty word. profit is not a dirty word. profit is not a dirty word. profit is not a dirty word. profit means that the

business you're running is successful. that means you can employ other people and i, despite economists trying to knockit despite economists trying to knock it down all the time, believe sincerely in trickle down economics, but is it trickling down enough? >> yes, i thinking down too slowly rather than perhaps gushing down. >> no, don't think it is, >> no, no, i don't think it is, because i think then you've got economic it if it economic turbulence. if it if it flows when you start trying flows down when you start trying to gerrymander the economy and take off some people and take wealth off some people and give it to them to give it to others, goes completely wrong others, it goes completely wrong . you do it as a social . if you do it as a social engineer thing. um, what's called exactly. yeah, called taxation exactly. yeah, but it's social engineering to take money off people who've acquired it and give it to those who deserve it. who don't deserve it. >> you believe scarlett >> can you believe scarlett mccgwire just talked about taxation? when the labour leader refuses to say he's going to raise taxes, he will raise taxes, cut taxes, he will tell us nothing. raise taxes, cut taxes, he will tell us what1g. raise taxes, cut taxes, he will tell us what i'm saying is, is , >> no, what i'm saying is, is, is taxation is about it is about redistribution . i mean, i mean, redistribution. i mean, i mean, that's what liz truss was against. it's about redistribution. is the more you earn, the more you pay in tax so that people who don't pay. yeah.

yeah. no but i'm saying mike's saying that this is wrong and i'm saying this taxation is to keep society going. >> yes. it's not to take money off rich people and give it to poor people, because that disincentivise is incentivises poor people. so that's what i don't like about it. what i like about trickle down economics is, is that if i've got a £3 million house, i need a gardener. i need somebody wash my rolls royce. somebody to wash my rolls royce. ineed somebody to wash my rolls royce. i need somebody to build a new extension. god, if i want a swimming pool, i'll bring in a swimming pool, i'll bring in a swimming pool, i'll bring in a swimming pool company. well, that's economics. swimming pool company. well, tha yes, economics. swimming pool company. well, tha yes, it economics. swimming pool company. well, tha yes, it would :onomics. swimming pool company. well, tha yes, it would be )mics. swimming pool company. well, tha yes, it would be really swimming pool company. well, tha y

lot. and a lot of people , lot. and a lot of people, company directors , directors of company directors, directors of water companies and things like that earn an awful lot of money for failing . for failing. >> do you like scarlett? do you like reform uk's policy of not paying like reform uk's policy of not paying any tax until you earn £20,000? >> the problem with that is, is , >> the problem with that is, is, is, is that that public services go under and i don't think they don't get that much tax for people on who earn under £20,000. >> it's a very small part of the pot of revenue. >> so all of us, all of us should contribute to public services because public services because do public services because do public services no , no, actually services no, no, actually i don't think i don't think a cleaner on £11 an hour working a few days a week because she or he likes to just do a job. >> i don't think they should be paying >> i don't think they should be paying any tax at all until they earn i want them to be earn £20,000. i want them to be incentivise , to to work and incentivise, to go to work and not i'll a of not go well. i'll have a bit of benefits do a bit of benefits and i'll do a bit of work. i love that policy. >> labour used to be on the side of workers. of the workers. >> am on the side of the

>> i am on the side of the workers. on the workers. i'm absolutely on the side workers. i've just side of the workers. i've just said that i think people said that i think that people there are an awful lot of workers, particularly people in the are the care sector, who are not paid that that's paid properly, and that that's what's wrong with them out of the tax rate, take them out of the tax rate, take them out of the tom moore, take more of their money because actually, who for the care sector? who pays for the care sector? it's taxes. the problem? no, the yeah, shouldn't yeah, but they shouldn't have to pay yeah, but they shouldn't have to pay it. pay the taxes on it. >> think andrew's and >> i think andrew's right. and also no we haven't discussed the welfare system in this country, which and very which is bloated and very generous to millions of people between two and 5 million people in this country are economically inactive. any government, inactive. and any government, including keir starmer's , should including keir starmer's, should make a pledge to get these people back into work. >> this this every government makes that pledge . and the makes that pledge. and the people who are economically inactive, you will find karl not get work right or don't want work. >> there's a lot of work. we've got a lot shaun woodward h yeah, they're they're, they've got, they've they're often, they've got health health got long terme health health problems . problems. >> they have as i said >> they may have as i said earlier, a lot them are

earlier, a lot of them are sitting waiting for operations. and i mean, you know, it's all very well for us. say everything is fine, but actually if i mean, if you are in pain , you can't if you are in pain, you can't work. i agree right . and it gets worse. >> we've redefined what sickness is in this country. so dramatically. we've lowered the bar to a level which is so low now. oh yes, you are sick . you now. oh yes, you are sick. you were never sick ten years ago with the same complaint because often now there is no mental health. it's mental health. what's the difference? no evidence for that whatsoever. i believe there is. the numbers have that. have gone up and we know that. so people claiming more so more people are claiming more people inactive. and people are inactive. and that's because , as andrew quite rightly because, as andrew quite rightly says, redefined some of says, we've redefined some of the physical difficulties people have. dividing have. but there's a dividing line between a mental health problem having bad day. yeah. >> let's and having a bad day. >> let's and having a bad day. >> you don't get paid for. >> you don't get paid for. >> right? i really want us to go. we've got some three more brilliant want brilliant stories. i want to tackle of home tackle record number of home owners. scarlett put their houses on market on boxing houses on the market on boxing day. why >> well, i mean, nobody knows .

>> well, i mean, nobody knows. bev, as you say , when we were bev, as you say, when we were all fair, i mean, you i think you're absolutely right . all fair, i mean, you i think you're absolutely right. is they're looking and they're thinking we just can't afford this mortgage anymore , can we? this mortgage anymore, can we? can we downsize or is it or is the marriage over? well the thing difficult christmas. it does happen. difficult christmases have been going on forever , right? what's forever, right? what's interesting that last year interesting is that last year there was a record. and this year we've broken the record. and why are people why are people putting putting their houses on the market? it's not necessarily a good thing. this is 10,000 houses in the uk. >> it's 26% up on last year. yeah. mike. yeah the property industry are taking this as good news. people feel that they want to move and changes and buy houses. >> i'll tell what's >> i'll tell you what's happening market happening in the property market now. a property investor now. i am a property investor and thinking about and i was thinking about offloading a couple houses and i was thinking about offlcyearg a couple houses and i was thinking about offlcyearandzouple houses and i was thinking about offlcyear and iuple houses and i was thinking about offlcyear and i decidediouses and i was thinking about offlcyear and i decided thates and i was thinking about offlcyear and i decided that the last year and i decided that the market was starting to go down. so i pulled back. what's happenedis so i pulled back. what's happened is there have been a raft of, um , advice to property

raft of, um, advice to property owners over christmas and new year that it's going to keep going down. and i think some of this is people saying, right, get in now before we lose more value in the house. that's what's happening . yeah. how many what's happening. yeah. how many houses? >> this bad news actually. >> this is bad news actually. >> this is bad news actually. >> portfolio. how many houses have mike parry. have you got mike parry. >> on i want to know an answer. >> yeah. not really, because i can't you because it's too can't tell you because it's too complicated. a portfolio complicated. it's a portfolio and differ. yeah. and the numbers differ. yeah. >> afford a paper boy >> you can't afford a paper boy in the morning to buy his own papeh in the morning to buy his own paper. man of the people. >> but if this story about people getting uploading these properties at a time we've properties at a time when we've seen of seen on the front page of the merits in the telegraph times everywhere, mortgage are everywhere, mortgage deals are mortgages again. mortgages are tumbling again. >> because >> because, well, because because that mortgage applications low. yeah. applications are so low. yeah. >> but problem of >> but the problem is some of the people who getting the people who are getting rid of the houses that touch on the point just there, point that you just made there, locked time mortgage locked into long time mortgage deals, out deals, which they can't get out of sell the house. of unless they sell the house. >> they all thought, so >> they all thought, we're so brilliant didn't brilliant because they didn't realise go realise that interest rates go down. up. down. they also go up. >> other well, then the >> and the other well, then the other believe you. >> sorry to interrupt you >> i'm sorry to interrupt you there, a of these houses

>> i'm sorry to interrupt you there bought of these houses >> i'm sorry to interrupt you there bought when these houses >> i'm sorry to interrupt you there bought when interestyuses >> i'm sorry to interrupt you there bought when interest rates were bought when interest rates were bought when interest rates were below and were literally below 1. yeah and you never think day is going you never think the day is going to when £800 month to come when your £800 a month mortgage turns into mortgage suddenly turns into £3,000. extraordinary >> because what >> yeah. and what? because what what's happened is that these are who are locked into are people who are locked into 3 or mortgages, and they're or 5 year mortgages, and they're coming so actually coming up now. yes. so actually they've managed to be on very low mortgages. yes. you're right . and now they think, oh yeah , . and now they think, oh yeah, yeah, we're going to have to do thatis yeah, we're going to have to do that is also a factor in the time of the election, because there was another report the other a of other day suggesting a lot of mortgages will be coming up for renewal end october. renewal at the end of october. >> right. yeah. >> yes. that's right. yeah. which time the tories which around the time the tories might be of an election might be thinking of an election and could going and the mortgages could be going through and the mortgages could be going thr(yeah, yeah. and the mortgages could be going thr(theseyeah. and the mortgages could be going thr(these are]. and the mortgages could be going thr(these are all factors for >> these are all factors for rishi sunak in time. the election of course, be election of course, he'll be quaking boots after that quaking in his boots after that devastatingly speech devastatingly effective speech by keir starmer. by your hero, keir starmer. >> he be in his >> he might be quaking in his boots if he watches a james bond film, because we're now being told british told by the british film institute james institute in london that james bond have bond movies have to have a warning will cause warning that says will cause offence you offended by offence today. you offended by a handsome, white, middle class, middle man?

middle young man? >> offended by the warning, >> i'm offended by the warning, honestly and you know the worst part of this report? >> it's the british film institute, but part of it says, um, warning of a raft of um, the warning of a raft of 1960 films also claims that as well as being offensive, now , it well as being offensive, now, it was offensive then in the 60s. no, i lived in the 60s. i can tell you. i was not offended to see james bond. uh, assuming the identity of an oriental person because he was working in japan. i mean, it's ludicrous that doctor no , the very first one. doctor no, the very first one. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> yeah. doctor. no, it was , uh, >> yeah. doctor. no, it was, uh, live and let die. you're right. and it was the volcano. >> devil's advocate here, scarlet. but sometimes when you do watch james bond, i do it does slightly take my breath away. how? um. sexy fully predatory with women. in predatory he was with women. in a way. you agree. which he was in i totally agree. in a way that i totally agree. >> was of the film. >> it was part of the film. there is one scene in goldfinger which even i found offensive then, goldfinger playing then, and goldfinger is playing cards miami , then, and goldfinger is playing cards miami, and james bond cards in miami, and james bond is massaged by a beautiful is being massaged by a beautiful young woman and then, uh, the

fbi guy turns up, you know. hi, james. and james bond smacks the girl on the bum and says, that's all. now dear, we've got men's work to talk about. and even i evenin work to talk about. and even i even in those days, thought that was a bit saucy. >> i was going to say, but does require a warning, though. >> no, no, but what what the problem is so i mean we know this is, is that kids this is, is that is that kids brought up now just aren't used to. and i mean they find friends difficult, because difficult, right? yeah because you know, it's bland . so i mean, you know, it's bland. so i mean, ihave you know, it's bland. so i mean, i have to say that as a feminist, i did find james bond difficult even , uh, back then difficult even, uh, back then and all they're saying is, is this was made at a different time there were different mores. yeah. right i think it's fine. >> i'm okay with that. and i want my children to see a time when if i was sat here with andrew pierce, he could smack my bottom on the way out. >> yes, absolutely. the world was a freer, freer place. but the appropriation is so the cultural appropriation is so ridiculous because there's a great film i love called, uh, where eagles dare . okay. i love where eagles dare. okay. i love that film. right. so do i, and

it was on over christmas. now is exactly. burton exactly. so is richard burton and going to accused of and going to be accused of appropriating being a german soldier because wearing soldier because he was wearing a german to infiltrate the german uniform to infiltrate the german accent? >> actually very bad german. come on. i remember a time when, you know, if you were going to have a person who was , uh, um, have a person who was, uh, um, indian or a cowboys and indians, that sort of thing, you'd have white people dressed up and actually it just meant that it meant that that that people of colour were just never getting parts. >> and it's changed. and actually, we wouldn't do it now. we wouldn't cast othello as a white guy. we would always cast them as a black guy. can i say them as a black guy. can i say the first black person to play othello? the reviews said , black othello? the reviews said, black people can't do it . he othello? the reviews said, black people can't do it. he was incredible. gosh, yeah , can't incredible. gosh, yeah, can't act. but there voice is wrong with the black act, with the actor who have to be a black person. >> yes, well, you have to be a black person to play othello.

you think you've got to be black? >> yeah, i do actually, i do, i mean, i yeah , i think, i think mean, i yeah, i think, i think it's fine, but but why do so many black people then play overtly white characters, like who ? who? >> well, you just i just watched the other day. um, the thing about scots and about mary, queen of scots and her adviser was very, her economic adviser was very, very black. i likely in every part of scotland and very likely in that part of scotland. >> in days. yeah. i mean, >> in those days. yeah. i mean, listen you're film listen, if you're making a film about muhammad ali, yeah, you have a black guy playing the boxer, you? was othello boxer, don't you? was othello originally person? well if. >> yeah, i mean, the whole point about the shakespeare i about the shakespeare thing, i mean, you read othello, mean, if you read othello, he was black. >> exactly. so that's what i'm saying. >> so that means it should be a black person playing it for reality purposes, you know? >> yeah. mean, the famous five >> yeah. i mean, the famous five was the bbc this, was redone on the bbc this, this christmas. george , who was christmas. and george, who was always a little bit, let's face it, gender ambiguous even in the original, she a complete original, she was a complete tomboy . tomboy. >> i being a tomboy myself, i thought george was great. >> but in this recent iteration,

isn't she a mix past race? um gender ambiguous? are boy slash girl would be spinning in her grave. >> well, i think he did. >> well, i think he did. >> right. so. yeah. >> right. so. yeah. >> yeah. i mean, enid blyton was pretty. have a complete enid pretty. i have a complete enid blyton fan who's read every book. love the no, no, book. yeah, i love the no, no, no , she is deeply racist . if you no, she is deeply racist. if you read she was a product. >> she was a product, a product of her time. 40s. 50s, wasn't she? very much so. >> the ones that get me is if >> so the ones that get me is if you get something like a 1930s yorkshire village, you know, an a i don't think ever a vet, i don't think it's ever happened all happened in, you know, all creatures great and small and all of a sudden you go in the pub and there's black people there. weren't black there. there weren't black people in yorkshire villages in 1930, i mean? and 1930, you know what i mean? and that's when try hard to that's when they try too hard to restore balance, restore a gender balance, sorry, a racial balance. >> it stands out because >> and it stands out because it's obviously really . it's obviously really. >> exactly. want drama which >> exactly. you want drama which reflects all ages. >> that's why bridgerton, that's why good, why bridgerton was so good, because they explained, we've got to move on. >> we've had a great show this morning. thank you much for

morning. thank you so much for joining scarlet, joining us. thank you scarlet, thank is from thank you mike. that is it from britain's up good britain's newsroom up next. good afternoon with tom and afternoon britain with tom and emily. on monday. emily. we'll see you on monday. >> you then. >> see you then. >> see you then. >> developments in the >> dramatic developments in the united affecting here >> dramatic developments in the urthe affecting here >> dramatic developments in the urthe u.k. affecting here >> dramatic developments in the urthe u.k. whatecting here >> dramatic developments in the urthe uk. what has1g here >> dramatic developments in the urthe uk. what has been here in the uk. what has been revealed in jeffrey epstein's court documents, all to be revealed . revealed. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler as sponsors of whether on . gb news. whether on. gb news. >> hello . very good day to you. >> hello. very good day to you. i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news, weather forecast . whilst some central parts will have dry, if not have some decent dry, if not sunny weather around there, showers towards the north and in the south. an area low the south. an area of low pressure is going to push its way we go through the rest way in as we go through the rest of today, some wet but of today, bringing some wet but also weather. it's the also blustery weather. it's the heavy most likely to heavy rain that's most likely to cause impacts across cause some impacts across southern counties as we go through the afternoon into the evening, there's the risk of some also some some flooding and also some travel disruption here. like i said, further north, though, some central some dry weather across central parts and across parts of

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>> good afternoon britain. >> good afternoon britain. >> it's 12:00 on thursday, the 4th of january. starmer comes out swinging. >> the labour leader has promised to crush what he calls

tory politics of divide and decline, as he effectively launches labour's 2024 election campaign but do his own sums add up ? up? >> epstein files prince andrew, bill clinton and stephen hawking have been named in a release of court documents connected to the late convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein , policing gaza jeffrey epstein, policing gaza the scotland yard have been criticised for posters appealing for witnesses to alleged war crimes in gaza . crimes in gaza. >> the uk gave up its british palestinian mandate in 1948, is investigating israel an appropriate use of british police time. >> well, there's a question for you, tom. >> i can't keep up on one half. it seems like a lot of people say britain's a small, it seems like a lot of people say britain's a small , tiny say britain's a small, tiny place with no influence in the

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