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away following several years of serious health complications due to covid. earlier, former prime minister tony blair called minister sir tony blair called him colleague and a great him a good colleague and a great friend . that's the latest from friend. that's the latest from the gb newsroom. for more, we're on tv, radio and of course on our website gbnews.com. this is gb news . gb news. >> the archbishop of hypocrisy has just become a multi—millionaire overnight. great. why doesn't he build a massive migrant hotel with it ? massive migrant hotel with it? just in welby has come into a staggering £2.4 million from his mother's. well well, come on then, put your money where your mouth is. start housing more channel and stop channel migrants and stop expecting us to pay. expecting the rest of us to pay. he off the plan he slagged off the rwanda plan when arrive here, our when migrants arrive here, our system is grossly wasteful in both human and financial terms. >> control has become cruelty . >> control has become cruelty. >> control has become cruelty. >> the church of england reportedly takes just 20 refugees under a. community scheme. he said that we need to

pay scheme. he said that we need to pay more in tax for foreign aid. he's called for us to all pay even more tax for a social care system. he loves the idea of all of us paying tax, doesn't he? more, more, more , more. but he more, more, more, more. but he doesn't practice what he preaches . the union preaches. at the trade union congress a few years ago, the vicar of wokery said zero hour contracts and companies like amazon paying little to no tax are the reincarnation of an ancient evil. it turned out two church of england cathedrals were advertising zero hours contracts, and amazon was one of the church's biggest investments worldwide. the church of england is reportedly sitting on around £10 yet clergy demanded £10 billion, yet clergy demanded a pay £10 billion, yet clergy demanded a pay rise in june to cope with the cost of living crisis . their the cost of living crisis. their wages largely come from public donations. apparently he's very good at virtue signalling, slamming the beeb over their handung slamming the beeb over their handling prolific abuser handling of prolific sex abuser jimmy but victims of jimmy savile. but victims of sexual abuse accused welby and the church of silence denial and evasion when it came to them . we evasion when it came to them. we haven't even got started on his climate hypocrisy. oh, we've all got to do our bit, haven't we?

to pay for the green stuff? well the church recently cut the church has only recently cut ties with arms dealers and oil and giants. he's obviously and gas giants. he's obviously doing all right financially now. £2.4 million better off, which will come in handy if he gets another speeding ticket. he was ordered to pay £510 in total for exceeding a 20 mile per hour limit near lambeth palace on the 2nd of october last year. we actually have come into possession of a picture now of what the speed camera captured when welby razzing around when welby was razzing it around the capital. oh, there he is . the capital. oh, there he is. look at him, look at him. there anyway. all right, all right. it's obviously . not really anyway. all right, all right. it's obviously. not really him, but anyway, it is time, i think, for this incredibly wealthy, privileged, sheltered, sanctimonious bloke who keeps sticking and sticking his hand out and expecting to drop a load of expecting you to drop a load of cash for illegal cash in it to pay for illegal immigrants his money immigrants to put his money where let's get where his mouth is. let's get the thoughts of panel now we the thoughts of my panel now we have got legendary journalist harriet and of course, harriet sergeant and of course, always outspoken benjamin butterworth, editor at large at the mail sunday, charlotte the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. harriet, i'll start

with it time that. well, with you. is it time that. well, we spent this £2.4 million windfall actually doing something to proactively help with migrant crisis? with the migrant crisis? >> yes. i think this is a brilliant idea here. um, i certainly think i mean, when you look at lambeth palace , it's look at lambeth palace, it's enormous. it could take any number of migrants. it's got two towers, lots of stately rooms. it's got four apartments, eight cottages and six acres of garden and i think not only could he put a number of migrants in there, but he could start a trend because at the moment, migrants are all sent out of sight of mind of london. sight and out of mind of london. uh far out, away from london and away , uh, from anyone who lives away, uh, from anyone who lives in london. yeah. and they are the most poorest areas who are then struggling to access services with migrants . so that services with migrants. so that is definitely a problem. so instead , let's have them here.

instead, let's have them here. let's have them in hyde park , let's have them in hyde park, let's have them in richmond. let's have them in islington. well, i think the problem will sort itself quickly. sort itself out quite quickly. >> would if it >> i think it would if it affected like that . affected people like that. benjamin, you know, this guy keeps sticking his hand out. he wants us to load cash wants us to drop a load of cash into for tax into it. tax more for this tax more that £2.4 million. he's more for that £2.4 million. he's got sitting on £10 billion there. church of england i there. the church of england i mean on. aren't they there. the church of england i mean for on. aren't they there. the church of england i mean for more aren't they there. the church of england i mean for more stuff.|ren't they paying for more stuff. >> mean look supporter of >> i mean look as a supporter of inheritance think inheritance tax i think fantastic. he'll be giving hundreds of pounds hundreds of thousands of pounds to the exchequer pay for to the exchequer to pay for exactly sure he exactly that. and i'm sure he supports it too. uh, you supports it too. uh, look, you know, on the one hand, i do think that the church of england, like most organs and religions, incredibly religions, are incredibly gluttonous and selfish and hypocritical, and they have these incredible amounts of money and they spend it on lavish things that often aren't for the people . and that's why for the people. and that's why i'm for justin i'm an advocate forjustin welby, i like the fact welby, because i like the fact that he stands up for the poorest. he stands up for those who've damaged by who've been damaged by austerity. he stands up for refugees who don't have a voice. >> he's got his own. he's got

him. he's got vicars and members of communities. right who of parish communities. right who are as by their union are classed as by their union because they've unionised with unite. they're classed as the working and a load of their working poor and a load of their pay a working poor and a load of their pay a load of. yeah a load of their pay comes from donations that ordinary members of the pubuc that ordinary members of the public meanwhile, that ordinary members of the pubchurch meanwhile, that ordinary members of the pubchurch england,1nwhile, that ordinary members of the pubchurch england, untille, the church of england, until recently been recently charlotte has been investing like arms investing in things like arms and and oil and gas and munitions and oil and gas companies . i mean, come on, this companies. i mean, come on, this is ridiculous. no i think it is a bit ridiculous, but i think i wouldn't put it past welby to actually put his money where his mouth is make big bit of a mouth is and make a big bit of a gesture because, mouth is and make a big bit of a gestu|he because, mouth is and make a big bit of a gestu|he a because, mouth is and make a big bit of a gestu|he a bit because, mouth is and make a big bit of a gestu|he a bit ofecause, mouth is and make a big bit of a gestu|he a bit ofecvirtue yeah, he is a bit of a virtue signaller . signaller. >> we've known that about him a long time, but i think i think, >> we've known that about him a longknow, but i think i think, >> we've known that about him a longknow, but canink i think, >> we've known that about him a longknow, but canink i tion > we've known that about him a longknow, but canink i tion him you know, you can count on him to house a to probably actually house a couple donate couple of refugees or donate some money a some of this money to a charitable wouldn't put charitable cause. i wouldn't put it were it past him. well, there were six those state rooms. >> think i m. m“ >> i think i might like to live in palace. >> i think i might like to live in well, palace. >> i think i might like to live in well, i palace. >> i think i might like to live in well, i had ace. >> i think i might like to live in well, i had accouple >> well, i had a couple of ukrainians and ukrainians staying with me, and i have two towers. and, i don't have two towers. and, you know, goodness how you know, goodness knows how many i think many state rooms, but i think the problem welby is the main problem with welby is that facing a big moral that we are facing a big moral debate about what migrants and

the sheer numbers of migrants that can come here. and we really do need an archbishop at this point. and to show some kind of moral judgement . and clarity. >> and let's be honest, patrick, you don't really care about whether he takes in some refugees or not. you hate that he the little girl. >> no, actually, as a >> no, i actually, as a christian myself, i found it really repugnant when he said that the rwanda plan was ungodly. right. because i don't i don't i don't think it is right. and i think that was dividing christians who actually want to control borders and trying to make them out some trying to make them out as some kind know, or, kind of, you know, heretics or, or sinful or heathens or sinful individuals. and i found that really, really disgraceful. that's that's my view on it. i mean, i sorry, i mean, just mean, i sorry, i mean, ijust feel he hasn't addressed the main issue . main issue. >> i mean, people like welby who say, we've got to just take migrants, don't address the main issue, the issue, which is the sheer numbers to come to numbers that want to come to this say, oh, well this country. they say, oh, well , we out the genuine asylum , we sort out the genuine asylum seeker. well, i've lived in the third world. i know that if you take genuine asylum seekers ,

take genuine asylum seekers, thatis take genuine asylum seekers, that is literally millions and millions of people. we need and we need someone like welby to say, what are we going to do in this situation? >> do you think that maybe charlotte, there is a possibility that justin welby belongs to that group of belongs to that same group of people fabulously people who are now fabulously wealthy? certainly before that, extremely privileged, potentially closed off potentially quite closed off from wider society, maybe , and from wider society, maybe, and therefore not really best placed in order to lecture us on how to live our lives. >> he is he is a little bit in that category, isn't he? because he went eton, he went to he went to eton, he went to oxford. he's just you oxford. he's just become you know, knighted. oxford. he's just become you knov1friends knighted. oxford. he's just become you knov1friends with knighted. oxford. he's just become you knov1friends with prince > i cross off. >> how goes about it. but >> how he goes about it. but it's kind of is his role. >> i mean, if he'd stood up, if

he'd stood up for keeping churches open during lockdown, as standing up for as much as he's standing up for people coming illegally, people coming here illegally, we have a problem. >> think that >> i don't think saying that you should have killed off all the elderly have elderly church goers would have been thing to been a very christian thing to say. going get been a very christian thing to say. in going get been a very christian thing to say. in huge going get been a very christian thing to say. in huge church. get been a very christian thing to say. in huge church. well, covid in a huge church. well, quite you know, quite obviously that, you know, those at those were the people most at risk. we're risk. and, you know, we're replaying but if replaying old stories, but if they'd been going into, you know, halls know, little churches and halls and not have and things that would not have been their health. but been good for their health. but look, don't like organised look, i don't like organised religion is religion, ian. i think it is a blight on society. as a gay person, i look at the catholic church as utterly evil in its behaviour. recent decades and behaviour. in recent decades and still in parts of the world, but you hardly be surprised that you can hardly be surprised that someone who's head someone who's the head of a major organised religion should see themselves as a moral arbiter, as a moral guidance . arbiter, as a moral guidance. thatis arbiter, as a moral guidance. that is what they're for. that is what they're there for. that is what they're there for. that why exist. and you that is why they exist. and you can, i'm sure they were can, i'm sure if they were saying agreed with, saying things you agreed with, you complaining you wouldn't be complaining about him opining. you wouldn't be complaining abowell,n opining. you wouldn't be complaining abowell, obviously , because i'd >> well, obviously, because i'd agree it, but that's agree with it, but but that's the point. agree with it, but but that's the you1t. have it both >> you can't have it both ways. he appointed by a he was appointed by a conservative of coui'se. >> course. >> let's just taking the he's not showing. he's just been taking an easy option.

>> he is going by >> and he is going safe by saying ungodly . >> and he is going safe by saying ungodly. he is saying it's ungodly. he is pushing far. he needs pushing it too far. he needs to find he needs put his find and he needs to put his money quite money where his mouth is, quite literally. you on money where his mouth is, quite literaand you on money where his mouth is, quite literaand perhaps, you on money where his mouth is, quite literaand perhaps, you>u on money where his mouth is, quite literaand perhaps, you know, that. and perhaps, you know, it would out would be great if he came out tomorrow actually tomorrow and said, i've actually donated of that, or more donated half of that, or more than to cause was. >> i was doing some research before today , but i was doing a before today, but i was doing a bit of research today, and the amount of parish communities that are literally crying out for england to for the church of england to give them a little bit of cash just to help in their local area or with their facilities or or help with their facilities or help with their congregation . help with their congregation. etc. and it's not forthcoming. it's not as forthcoming as arguably it should be. and i just wonder now he's come into that that today that story that that came today under really remarkable circumstances. the circumstances. actually, the archbishop in to archbishop welby has come in to £24 million worth of £2.4 million worth of inheritance. he also apparently relatively recently found out that his the person he thought was his father was not his father so it's all father as well. so it's all wrapped up in what is quite a remarkable or wrapped up in what is quite a rem he able or wrapped up in what is quite a remhe should or wrapped up in what is quite a remhe should now or wrapped up in what is quite a remhe should now that or wrapped up in what is quite a rem he should now that money not he should now use that money to put his money where his mouth is, get your views coming in gb views com still to

views or gb news. com still to come, the natwest chairman, howard, has made another absolute howler. does he have to go now? see your response to how people can be debunked for their political views. but it's easy to get on property . market to get on the property. market you got anything to say to howard davies at . all yeah, howard davies at. all yeah, i went to natwest hq earlier on and confronted some of the staff there should running there and should blade running killer actually killer oscar pistorius actually be prison? but up next be out of prison? but up next it's the head to head. should the like australia? the uk be more like australia? we will to and we will go live to sydney and discuss how they plan to ease their housing crisis . okay, their housing crisis. okay, well, i'll tell you a little bit about it. it's doing something that we should be doing over here, which is putting the focus on this is patrick on immigration. this is patrick christys tonight only news

on gb news the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> this is patrick christys tonight , >> this is patrick christys tonight, only on gb news. it's time now for head to head . so time now for head to head. so the australian government have announced that they will be cracking down on immigration to tackle their housing crisis. this comes . as experts reveal it this comes. as experts reveal it will control rising housing costs as average rents in the country have risen by 14% in the past year alone. does this sound familiar? anyone who was here in the according the ons the uk, according to the ons figures, immigration hit a record . 745,000 in the year to record. 745,000 in the year to december 2022, so should we be taking a leaf out of the aussies book and solve our housing

crisis by clamping down on immigration? with me to discuss this now is columnist at the spectator alexandra marshall , an spectator alexandra marshall, an associate professor in urban planning at the university of queensland, dorina pojani. queensland, is dorina pojani. both very, both of you. thank you very, very much. go to you first. very much. i'll go to you first. alexandra actually slashing very much. i'll go to you first. alexandra the jally slashing very much. i'll go to you first. alexandra the best slashing very much. i'll go to you first. alexandra the best wayhing very much. i'll go to you first. alexandra the best way to g immigration the best way to solve the housing crisis . solve the housing crisis. >> well, the primary cause of our housing crisis is, of course, immigration. i mean, i live in sydney, where almost all of the migrants go. they're basically split between melbourne and sydney. we've had pretty much the population of hobart thrown into sydney over the last couple of years, with no expansion of our resources, not even an expansion of our dams, don't enough dams, so we don't have enough water, or water, let alone roads or hospital or homes. now the problem is the majority of these migrants that are coming in are not coming from things like university, which is what the albanese government decided to address. coming from address. they're coming from their intake , which their humanitarian intake, which is the part that australians have said , you stop bringing have said, can you stop bringing in almost million in almost a million people a year the humanitarian

year from the humanitarian intake who are unskilled and who you're forcing into the suburbs? they're actually the they're actually rezoning the outer , who are outer suburbs, who are conservatives be high rise conservatives to be high rise labour voting seats as part of their little book balancing exercise , which is why people exercise, which is why people were angry with albanese. were so angry with albanese. now, under massive now, albanese, under massive political decided . to political pressure, decided. to do something about the housing crisis. now, what he did was limit immigration for students. but students live around universities small universities in a very small area. crisis in area. the housing crisis is in the minutes the suburbs, about 40 minutes from the cities where i live. slashing does slashing students does absolutely for that. our absolutely nothing for that. our problem is related to the other part of the migration we asked labour , the labour to solve, not the university so it's all university students. so it's all show absolutely no gain for australia. >> this will be ringing so many alarm bells to people right here in britain at the moment. alarm bells to people right here in britain at the moment . and in britain at the moment. and this is i wanted to this is why i wanted to highlight story, because highlight this story, because i just someone in just thought finally, someone in australia was actually chiming up and saying what i think a lot of british politicians should say, which is that clearly immigration is damaging the housing crisis. but dorina pojani, understand you

pojani, i understand that you take view to this. pojani, i understand that you takyou view to this. pojani, i understand that you takyou do view to this. pojani, i understand that you takyou do you view to this. pojani, i understand that you takyou do you not w to this. pojani, i understand that you takyou do you not think:his. pojani, i understand that you takyou do you not think that do you do you not think that reducing immigration will have any crisis ? >> 7- >> i. that's 5mm 7 >> i. that's right. a ? >> i. that's right. a colleague of mine, a demographer , and i of mine, a demographer, and i recently crunched the numbers and we found out that most of the current . immigration rates the current. immigration rates that we're experiencing are due to, uh, so—called recuperation , to, uh, so—called recuperation, meaning that during the covid 19 pandemic, a lot of people actually left australia. they were a lot of migrants in australia, and we lost . about australia, and we lost. about 85,000 people there were migrants there. and australia became this sort of fortress . became this sort of fortress. dufing became this sort of fortress. during the pandemic, you couldn't get in and out of the country. so we didn't know how long the restrictions would last. so a lot of people just packed up and left and now a lot of them are looking to come back as well as many australians who lived through the pandemic abroad. and now want to return

home. so it's mainly recuperation, migration and actually the predictions are that migration will peak, um, around . this year and then it around. this year and then it will return to its pre—pandemic trend, which is about half a million people a year. that's um, that's that's what the prediction is. that's that's what the, the correct numbers are. >> all right, alexandra , i love >> all right, alexandra, i love focusing on australia and relating it back to british immigration. you guys turn the boats and that seemed to boats back. and that seemed to work. when labour work. and then when a labour government in after that, government came in after that, they that policy they didn't reverse that policy because it worked. and i just can't help but wonder whether or not done same can't help but wonder whether or not here done same can't help but wonder whether or not here in done same can't help but wonder whether or not here in an done same can't help but wonder whether or not here in an alternate same thing here in an alternate universe. yes. but alexandra, i think people, think that younger people, younger people who always complain about housing complain about the housing crisis, so. well, crisis, quite rightly so. well, rents going up and possible to buy a house and get on the property ladder. they should be the charge the ones leading this charge and saying immigration and saying let's cut immigration and let's us all somewhere let's give us all somewhere to live of course i should live. well, of course i should be leading the charge, but most

of the younger generation are brainwashed into voting for policies that disadvantage them. >> in particular, so i'm not going to see them change in their mind until they quite literally place literally can't get a place at university work . university or cannot work. perhaps out of perhaps when they run out of other people's money use, other people's money to use, they'll realising they've they'll start realising they've been done a dinner by their been done like a dinner by their politicians. but can i just say i live in a heavily migrate, populous, population part of populous, uh, population part of australia? i'm on the north shore , which used be shore, which used to be a liberal voting conservative area that populated. it that was loosely populated. it has been rezoned into high density housing for migrants. most of my building is full of. i'm probably the only australian born here in my building, even though i'm in a conservative suburb. that was simply not the case five years ago. the demographics of sydney in particular is now 45% foreign born. that happened in five years. so the migration levels are not something that just happened from the pandemic. they were something that was being fed migration fed by a rapid migration policy, which politicians were using which our politicians were using to balance their books and it's

created not just housing created not just a housing crisis , a cultural crisis, but a cultural and social crisis . and that's why social crisis. and that's why the policies and the political pressure has been on. albanese to make this policy change, which it might help a little bit, but it won't help the majority just majority of australians who just want their want somewhere for their families want somewhere for their fani.ies want somewhere for their fani mean, we've huge >> i mean, we've got a huge problem in uk at the problem here in the uk at the moment comes to illegal moment when it comes to illegal migrants being given , not just migrants being given, not just hotels, but then new flats and new houses. also, of course, legal immigration on the lower end of the economic spectrum clogging up social housing, etc. we're . not building here. i we're. not building here. i mean, is it really not quite obvious that if you manage to reduce all of that, then native people more places to people would have more places to live country ? live in their own country? >> and that's not quite right. actually. the the, um, squandering , i'm sorry, housing, squandering, i'm sorry, housing, the housing crisis in australia has been, um, a few decades in the making. so it's not really due to migration in fact,

housing prices went up during the pandemic when australia was losing population rather than gaining population . uh, the last gaining population. uh, the last year when we produced just enough housing, we provided enough housing, we provided enough supply in the market to meet the demand was around 2000, 2001. ever since , the balance 2001. ever since, the balance has been , um, has been not has been, um, has been not right. i mean, there has been less fly than there is demand. so that's why we have a housing crisis. and when i say housing supply, i mean supply of market, housing and supply of social housing and supply of social housing also . i wanted to housing also. i wanted to respond to the comment around humanitarian migration earlier. um, the data is there was reported here is also not quite correct that, uh, australia takes in a very tiny number of humanitarian migrants. most of our migration is driven by the country's own needs. needs for laboun country's own needs. needs for labour. we need migrants to work for us. that's why we take in

migrants. it's not out of charity, okay? >> it's now because we this is this is the this is the other response to that. >> quickly, please. yeah. can i just say that australia takes in per the highest migration per capita the highest migration level of humanitarian in the world. it's that we're a small country. numbers country. so we take in numbers like a million refugees. that's a huge deal for a tiny country like australia . so we like australia. so yes, we don't take many as britain, but take it as many as britain, but we we're small . we can't because we're small. >> well, so small in terms of population . i'm assuming you population. i'm assuming you mean. i mean, not obviously in landmass . yeah. landmass. yeah. >> we all live in tiny pockets along the coast because most of our desert. our country is desert. so yeah, we them we can't really put them in ayers rock right. it's going ayers rock right. it's not going to put them to happen. we have to put them on cities. on the coastal cities. okay >> we hear an >> and alexandra, we hear an argument dorina has argument here that dorina has just which just made very regularly, which is very and is right. it's all very well and good can good saying, look, you can you can down on immigration to can cut down on immigration to solve a housing crisis , but then solve a housing crisis, but then your economy goes pop because we need problem need skilled labour. the problem is over here we're seeing gdp per capita go down. right. so actually really the giant immigration ponzi scheme here in

britain i think has now collapsed . but is this anything collapsed. but is this anything like what's going on in australia we keep australia because we keep heanng australia because we keep hearing you've got strong hearing you've got a strong points based immigration system, doesn't to working . doesn't seem to be working. >> well. we don't have a strong point immigration system in practice because our migrant take is so high. now for humanitarian values. and they don't have a skilled labour requirement. so of the last million or so refugees that came in, three quarters of them were low skilled, not high skilled. so australia's got a proud history of taking migrants and no was against the migration no one was against the migration policies in australia before the mass migration started. and that time we had high skilled migrants coming in. we had requirements of work visas. you had to prove that you could support yourself came support yourself when you came here. was all wildly here. that was all wildly successful had successful and nobody had an issue what an issue with it. what we have an issue with it. what we have an issue with it. what we have an issue with that is issue with is that what is happening right it's happening right now, it's happening right now, it's happening britain happening to london and britain at moment. we've at large at the moment. we've got a lot of people coming to the country who don't the the country who don't share the values the society they're values of the society they're coming causing coming into. it's causing enclaves to form, it's causing conflict in society. they they

are living on welfare systems. so a small amount of people are paying so a small amount of people are paying higher and higher taxes. work to try and support not only their families , but the families their families, but the families of people who've just arrived . of people who've just arrived. and they feel like they are and yet they feel like they are the ones who their style of life. despite being born in australia, is rapidly declining and they never voted for that to happen. >> can you imagine there was >> can you imagine if there was a here where british a policy here where british people have to get housing first? i mean, it would be absolutely unbelievable. dorina could we at least maybe agree on one thing, which is that surely the current level of immigration that we're seeing at the moment in australia . where obviously in australia. where obviously you're seeing a lot here as well, is having an impact when it comes to property prices and rental prices i mean, rental prices as well. i mean, that's people are that's the thing that people are feeling the feeling priced out at the moment. surely immigration has got arena. >> uh, immigration has got a little bit of a role to play, but . it, um, it just one of the but. it, um, it just one of the causes of the housing crisis.

it's definitely not the main cause of the housing crisis in australia. i do not know about britain. i also wanted to respond to, um, the, the, the earlier comment about skilled migration. actually the data shows that most of our migration is still skilled migration . and is still skilled migration. and it's very, very difficult to bnngin it's very, very difficult to bring in australia , um, family bring in australia, um, family migrants, for example . it's very migrants, for example. it's very difficult for someone to bring in their elderly parents or bnngin in their elderly parents or bring in siblings, etc. etc. we do not do those sort of, uh, chain migration that they do in the united states . that's very, the united states. that's very, very tightly. i mean , over, over here. >> now, you can be a student at and get a degree at a complete mickey mouse university. and remarkably, we say you can bring dependents with you. i mean, good grief, i mean, what student is you bring you bring a whole family over. i mean, when i went off to university, you know, with respect my family, one

off to university, you know, wi'thezspect my family, one off to university, you know, wi'thezspect of my family, one off to university, you know, wi'thezspect of mefamily, one off to university, you know, wi'thezspect of me going one off to university, you know, wi'thezspect of me going to re of the points of me going to university to, was to get university was to, was to get away of freedom. away and have a bit of freedom. i never thought, i never thought, what, thought, oh, i'll tell you what, i'll but, i'll bring grandma with me. but, um, look, both you, thank you um, look, both of you, thank you very, really um, look, both of you, thank you very, that really um, look, both of you, thank you very, that informative enjoyed that informative stuff. and wanted and the reason why i wanted to highlight is highlight that issue. there is because has direct because i think it has direct parallels seeing because i think it has direct pathis ls seeing because i think it has direct pathis country seeing because i think it has direct pathis country and seeing because i think it has direct pathis country and whether�*eing because i think it has direct pathis country and whether or|g because i think it has direct pat now,)untry and whether or|g because i think it has direct pat now, especially whether or|g because i think it has direct pat now, especially the ther or|g because i think it has direct pat now, especially the younger| not now, especially the younger generation, who most generation, people who are most affected crisis affected by the housing crisis here be serious here should be having a serious long, hard look at the role that immigration has to play in that. as columnist at the spectator, alexandra associate alexandra marshall and associate professor alexandra marshall and associate proiuniversity of . queensland the university of. queensland dofina the university of. queensland dorina pojani look still to come. the natwest chairman, howard has made yet another howler. does he have to go? it's natwest run by a load of out—of—touch fat cats. no yeah. find out what all the fuss is about shortly and has keir starmer silenced angela rayner . starmer silenced angela rayner. where is she? asked why i want to prosecute bma to know. shall we prosecute bma leaders deaths caused by the leaders for deaths caused by the strikes? now, know this gets strikes? now, i know this gets you should you all going. should we prosecute bma leaders? the union

leaders for deaths caused a patients by their strikes. but next, we speak to reeva steenkamp's family lawyer. on the day that oscar pistorius has been released from prison . this been released from prison. this is

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. welcome back to patrick christys tonight only on gb news news. >> oscar pistorius has been released from prison after almost 11 years after murdering

reeva steenkamp, the disgraced paralympian once renowned as the blade runner, was granted parole in november. the 37 year old shot his girlfriend at the time on valentine's day in 2013 at his home. it led to one of the most dramatic court cases of modern times. earlier i caught up with reeva steenkamp's family lawyer tania koen , to get her lawyer tania koen, to get her reaction and, crucially, find out what reeva's family are feeling on the day of oscar pistorius release . pistorius has pistorius release. pistorius has now been released . you were now been released. you were campaigning to keep him behind bars . how do you feel ? bars. how do you feel? >> right. so initial plea. we said that . i don't know if said that. i don't know if you're aware of the background of the matter , that, um, there of the matter, that, um, there was a dispute about when he was eligible to be considered for placement on parole. so that was our big dispute during. barry has always said that they have respect for the south african justice system . and the law must justice system. and the law must take its course , but it must be

take its course, but it must be fair. so . the same rules and fair. so. the same rules and laws and regulations must apply to oscar as anybody else. so my instructions at the time were and that is what i did. we disputed that he was eligible to be , and there was be considered, and there was various, , correspondence that various, um, correspondence that passed with regards the passed hands with regards to the um , actual date of his when his um, actual date of his when his sentence started and or commenced, which is why at the parole hearing in march, this yean parole hearing in march, this year, we did oppose june and barry did oppose, uh, the parole. um, uh , of oscar parole. um, uh, of oscar pistorius . they felt that he pistorius. they felt that he wasn't rehabilitated. they felt he wasn't remorseful. and the reason why why, uh, specifically june said that is because , um, june said that is because, um, they still don't know what happened that night. they still don't know what happened that night . they happened that night. they believe that to be a truly remorseful and rehabilitated, you must engage with the truth. what exactly happened ? and they what exactly happened? and they believe the testimony of the witnesses who said they heard a

woman screaming. they believe that there was a fight. they believe that oscar pistorius killed reeva through a closed door shooting four bullets, knowing that it was her behind that door. but obviously, after barry passed away, things had changed for june. she barry passed away, things had changed forjune. she also realised and accepted and knew that she's always known the day will come. we will be released from prison. whether it's after serving the entire sentence or whether it is after he has been granted parole. and that's why she decided to do a victim impact statement where she placed her concerns before the parole board and they took that into consideration . into consideration. >> the issue of him not showing any remorse must be particularly difficult . difficult. >> yes, it is , as june believes, >> yes, it is, as june believes, that barry died of a broken heart . he died of that barry died of a broken heart. he died of a that barry died of a broken heart . he died of a broken heart heart. he died of a broken heart because right till the end, and

even with the first parole heanng even with the first parole hearing in march , barry said it hearing in march, barry said it was his last wish before he died. to know the truth . that is died. to know the truth. that is why he attended the victim offender dialogue with oscar. he went to that hearing or that dialogue with an expectation that he would engage in a conversation and he would get answers to the many questions that he had. he didn't get the answers he wanted. he firmly believes that there was an argument. he doesn't believe oscar's version, and he had hope that in a face to face meeting with oscar that he would know the truth. but oscar kept to his version that he thought it was an intruder, and that was very disappointing. barry was very disappointed in that . disappointed in that. >> surely that raises some serious questions about whether oscar pistorius has been rehabilitated , whether or not he rehabilitated, whether or not he would continue to pose a threat or even kill again on release . or even kill again on release. >> that is true . so you must

>> that is true. so you must remember at a parole hearing, the parole board has in front of them various documents , which is them various documents, which is compiled by a case management committee , psychologists, committee, psychologists, reports , uh, social workers reports, uh, social workers reports, uh, social workers reports . so they take that into reports. so they take that into consideration . and of course, consideration. and of course, they must determine that this person doesn't pose a threat to society, is rehabilitate . society, is rehabilitate. >> he was described today by the british media as a fallen hero , british media as a fallen hero, believe it or not. how do you react to that? they depends who you ask, of course, because south africa is very much divided and the public is very much divided. >> and um, on whether oscar is a fallen hero or whether he is in fact the victim in this matter, because with the high tendency of violence and in south africa , of violence and in south africa, a lot of people believe and they believe his version , they believe his version, they believe his version, they believe that he genuinely thought that there was an intruder in the house. and, um, they can associate with it

because of the high volumes of crime . um, then of course, you crime. um, then of course, you get the other, um , part of, uh, get the other, um, part of, uh, the public that say that is. no, if you, if you, if you objectively listen to the evidence that was presented in court and if you objectively take into account what five supreme court judges said in the appeal court , um, the only appeal court, um, the only conclusion that you can come to is that he he must have known it's reeva behind the door, because he still to this day , because he still to this day, hasn't given any plausible explanation why he shot through a closed door so south africa is very divided . uh, fallen heroes very divided. uh, fallen heroes to euro some and victim to others. >> there are concerns about whether or not there's a bounty on his head. now and he's going to have additional security. i believe there were reports of a known hit attended court known hit man who attended court one day. do you think there's a chance that oscar could be bumped off? chance that oscar could be burobviously, can't predict

>> obviously, i can't predict that or or comment on that, but my comment to that would be that most certainly neither jew nor barry has ever indicated that that would be the way in which to resolve the matter . they've to resolve the matter. they've always said that , you know, always said that, you know, there's no winners in this. south africa lost a hero . they south africa lost a hero. they lost their daughter. but at the same time, they've always advocated that the law must take its course . and barry most its course. and barry most certainly would not have wanted anybody to take the law into their own hands, because ultimately he basically that's what happened to their daughter, reeva. so, so , um, you know, we reeva. so, so, um, you know, we have heard the reports and, um . have heard the reports and, um. you know, whether anybody will actually do something like that. i don't know , but one can only i don't know, but one can only hope not, because what message does that send? send out? we can't have vigilantes running around it . can't have vigilantes running around it. it's just incomprehensible .

incomprehensible. >> how is june feeling today ? >> how is june feeling today? i've spoken to a number of times today , and, um, she's she's today, and, um, she's she's accepted that that he will be released. >> she's accepted that today is the day she's always known. the day he's going to come and ultimately, she always says to me that her focus is not on oscar pistorius. it never has been her focus. and barry's focus has always been, let's to get through each day without reeva. the fact that reeva never coming back, that's the focus , coming back, that's the focus, unfortunately. and um, to continue her legacy by establishing the reeva rebecca steenkamp foundation , june said steenkamp foundation, june said she considered home and cry and mope every day . she would rather mope every day. she would rather take that energy and do something positive about it, and that's what she is doing . that's what she is doing. >> i've read some articles shortly after his detention that he was actually put in very comfortable conditions in

prison, and he put on a massive performance in court, didn't he? whether was genuine remorse performance in court, didn't he? winot,er was genuine remorse performance in court, didn't he? winot, we was genuine remorse performance in court, didn't he? winot, we don't|enuine remorse performance in court, didn't he? winot, we don't really; remorse performance in court, didn't he? winot, we don't really know. rse or not, we don't really know. but do you think he got special treatment because he's treatment in prison because he's a celebrity ? a celebrity? >> that's a very good question . >> that's a very good question. did he have special treatment ? did he have special treatment? um, um , uh, obviously i don't um, um, uh, obviously i don't know whether correctional services, uh, gave him special treatment. um, you know, we hear a lot of stories about, um , the a lot of stories about, um, the correctional services . uh, so correctional services. uh, so we've got the . double base we've got the. double base matter recently. i don't know if you're aware of that. so so, um, it unfortunately, i have to say that it won't surprise me. um, but i've got nothing factual to base that on. >> is this case now over yet ? >> is this case now over yet? >> is this case now over yet? >> most definitely . >> most definitely. >> most definitely. >> well, there we go. coming up . >> well, there we go. coming up. shall we prosecute bma leaders for deaths to patients caused by

the strikes? the natwest chairman has made an absolute howler , hasn't he? does he have howler, hasn't he? does he have to go? your response to how people can be debunked for their political views. it's easy political views. but it's easy to on the property market. to get on the property market. but next, has keir starmer silenced angela rayner. where is she ? this is patrick christys she? this is patrick christys tonight and it's only on gb

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journalist michael crick later in the show. but kiss , dharma in the show. but kiss, dharma and the labour party are refusing to make any promises of what they will do if they win the next general election in 2024. tax, especially , is 2024. tax, especially, is a topic of discussion which people want see lowered. shadow want to see lowered. but shadow chancellor reeves is not chancellor rachel reeves is not guaranteeing that this will happen return to downing happen if they return to downing street. we've heard keir starmer we row back on the green stuff. where is he really? on immigration? already done a immigration? he's already done a couple reverse ferrets on couple of reverse ferrets on brexit. really sure brexit. i'm not really sure where now, where he is on that now, but also, think this is also, and i think this is fascinating. why has angela rayner gone all silent ? that's rayner gone all silent? that's what i want to know. we're joined now by shaun woodward to discuss this. shaun thank discuss all of this. shaun thank you very, very much. look it's great to have you on the show. obviously you know you are. yeah. >> happy year to you first >> happy new year to you first of happy new year to you of all and happy new year to you as well good man . as well my good man. >> am right in thinking >> and am i right in thinking that angela rayner has been silenced because she's too left wing and if the truth out, wing and if the truth got out, it turn voters off? it might turn voters off? >> no, i don't think so at all. i think she's probably been allowed to have a christmas. she

has her own kids. she has. she's a grandmother. she has a very busy constituency amount of work to do. and i think we need to be just a little bit careful here that actually once again, the media, when they really don't know what else to attack in the labour party, turn on angela rayner. labour party, turn on angela rayner . and i think when you see rayner. and i think when you see angela rayner, as i'm sure is now looking increasingly likely becoming the most powerful woman in british politics within the next 12 months, you're going to be seeing plenty of her and i suspect you won't be complaining about her absence. >> it's certainly not an attack on angela rayner. it's actually more a comment on keir starmer. i mean, appears to be trying i mean, he appears to be trying his very best tell his very best to tell us absolutely all labour absolutely naff all about labour policies . the indication policies. the indication there for because he for me will be because he doesn't anyone doesn't want to scare anyone off and . angela rayner is the kind and. angela rayner is the kind of person, when she was out calling tories scum and, you know, banana republic and all calling tories scum and, you knthis banana republic and all calling tories scum and, you knthis stuffana republic and all calling tories scum and, you knthis stuff that'epublic and all calling tories scum and, you knthis stuff that she3lic and all calling tories scum and, you knthis stuff that she wasand all of this stuff that she was saying actually could saying that actually maybe could be as a weakness for the be seen as a weakness for the labour party . she could be seen labour party. she could be seen as who too

as somebody who was a bit too red . red. >> look, i think the, the problem and forgive me because l, problem and forgive me because i, you know, i really respect what you guys do. and i think it's important voice be it's an important voice to be heard . but the real issue here heard. but the real issue here is that the government is falling apart. keir starmer is increasingly looking like, well, hang on, patrick, let me answer . hang on, patrick, let me answer. let me answer. i can either answer your question or you can. all right. all right then okay then. to answer it. then. but i need to answer it. or me questions or you can just ask me questions and here mute. i mean, and i'll sit here mute. i mean, what you want do ? what do you want me to do? >> the is not what >> the focus is not on on what the party the conservative party government that government are doing. we do that all i'm talking all the time. what i'm talking about whether whether or about now is whether whether or not labour leader not we've got a labour leader who's not telling about any who's not telling us about any of hiding what of his policies and hiding what his deputy really thinks. his deputy leader really thinks. i that is quite. his deputy leader really thinks. i i'm that is quite. his deputy leader really thinks. i i'm tellingthat is quite. his deputy leader really thinks. i i'm telling you,is quite. his deputy leader really thinks. i i'm telling you, i'mjite. his deputy leader really thinks. i i'm telling you, i'm trying his deputy leader really thinks. i explain ling you, i'm trying his deputy leader really thinks. i explain tog you, i'm trying his deputy leader really thinks. i explain to you u, i'm trying his deputy leader really thinks. i explain to you u, i'misying to explain to you what is happening inside labour happening inside the labour party reason the party and the reason that the labour party is not coming forward drowning the forward and drowning the airwaves. and forgive me, allow you to dissect it in pieces every single day, is it's allowing the government to continue doing what it's doing ,

continue doing what it's doing, which is to be incompetent. parrot sized and failing the country so the country can see that whatever you might think, this lot must go . and what's this lot must go. and what's very clear from keir starmer is what he has said is, look, when we look at the public finances and let's remember in two months time there will be another budget. what if this government continue with their tax and burn policies. so effectively, what's going to happen here is that we may well see a2p tax cut. that's going to cost another 13 billion of public money. we don't have of. and where does that leave the labour party when they come into government, assuming they win election. so win the general election. so i think what keir is doing is being sensible saying, being very sensible and saying, look, we are very clear. we are going to govern as a labour party who is committed to growth and which is going to actually change things in this country. >> yeah. good. okay. right. so this is this is the jingoism isn't it, though. growth change, bringing people together . we're bringing people together. we're going kinder. all right. going to be kinder. all right. what are actually to

what are you actually going to do tax . we don't do in terms of tax. we don't know. we're getting loads of different responses out there at the what's to the moment. what's he going to do in terms of green energy. £28 billion. until then. that's that's being rowed back that's that's being rowed back £28 and that's £28 billion. and now that's being the being rowed back. the immigration thing, they're incredibly squiffy on when it comes mean, what are they comes to i mean, what are they actually going do again when actually going to do again when we what we can do we don't know what we can do until actually get the public until we actually get the public finances and they had a chance to look at them. finances and they had a chance to [the at them. finances and they had a chance to [the conservative party, look, >> the conservative party, look, let's the case of liz let's take the case of liz truss, was prime truss, when she was prime minister the course of minister in the course of a month. just remind your audience this what it cost the this afternoon what it cost the bank of england to prop up britain because of her irresponsible economics . the irresponsible economics. the answer is for growth. >> now tens and tens of billions i >> patrick, what you got to remember here is , is that if the remember here is, is that if the labour party, if the labour party comes into government and the has the conservative party has literally emptied all the coffers , then our hands are much coffers, then our hands are much more tied by what we can do straight away than we would like. if on the other hand, you

know, the chancellor behaves responsibly, if rishi sunak responsibly, and if rishi sunak behaves, respond ably in this budget coming up, then when rishi sunak has laid out the fact that he has got a programme for growth, which includes a lot of things, green jobs, his keir starmer afraid, afraid of publishing a manifesto because starmer afraid, afraid of publipeople manifesto because starmer afraid, afraid of publipeople mightesto because starmer afraid, afraid of publipeople might realise :ause starmer afraid, afraid of publipeople might realise how; then people might realise how unpopular of his policies are. >> the only thing that got >> the only thing that we got out that he out of him yesterday was that he wants 16 year olds. wants votes for 16 year olds. >> don't take the british >> i don't take the british pubuc >> i don't take the british public granted. think public for granted. i think they're very intelligent and i think seeing in think what you are seeing in a sustained way for the last two years is the british public saying that the conservative party needs to go, they need to stop squatting street stop squatting in downing street and british public want the and the british public want the labour party to take control. and i know you guys want to be in there to take the labour party apart, and that's fine . we party apart, and that's fine. we live in a democracy, thank god we do. live in a democracy, thank god we but i think we, the country , >> but i think we, the country, the people, the people are saying with their feet week in, week out, we want the tories out. and i think it's a shame. shaun, i get it. we're pressed for time. thank you, by the way.

but think my is, but i just think my view is, look, think it's a shame that look, i think it's a shame that we might end up with a government without government elected without potentially telling us potentially really telling us what going but what they're going to do, but that politics. of course, that is politics. of course, that is politics. of course, that maybe that is politics. and maybe that's shaun, that is politics. and maybe that's very, shaun, that is politics. and maybe that's very, very shaun, that is politics. and maybe that's very, very much. n, thank you very, very much. i enjoyed a enjoyed that, shaun. you're a former labour mp who former former labour mp who served the secretary served as the secretary of state for . northern served as the secretary of state for. northern ireland served as the secretary of state for . northern ireland from two for. northern ireland from two thousand and seven to 2010. there we go now. the natwest chairman, has made chairman, howard, has made another he have to another howler. does he have to go? i confronted the bankers earlier , find out what happened. earlier, find out what happened. but pack, but coming up in my press pack, the entertaining press the most entertaining press preview anywhere on preview you will get anywhere on the deep into preview you will get anywhere on the tomorrow's deep into preview you will get anywhere on the tomorrow's fronteep into preview you will get anywhere on the tomorrow's front pages, all of tomorrow's front pages, including . rather including something. rather interesting about whether or not humza yousaf has bust. humza yousaf has gone bust. nonh humza yousaf has gone bust. north of the border. but next, should we prosecute bma leaders for causing deaths to patients ? for causing deaths to patients? >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsor of weather boxt boilers. sponsor of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> good evening, i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. after a very

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>> it's 10 pm. and welcome to patrick christys tonight a shocking twist in the doctors strike. will union leaders be sent to prison for patient deaths ? plus i confront the deaths? plus i confront the bankers after the chairman of natwest clocked up big time again. it's natwest, run by a

load of out of touch fat cats. no hums are useless in scotland is in a world of trouble . is in a world of trouble. >> lord justice clerk white, every high court judge white, the lord advocate, white millionaire, businessman . millionaire, businessman. >> he's begging for cash to save the skin snp white and how are you with massive spiders? oh no ho. >> no. >> see worse than friday night in . manchester. oh in. manchester. oh >> i'm fine with them. well, britain's most dangerous spider strikes again . could it be in strikes again. could it be in your house? i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper headlines live before anyone else. on tomorrow's newspaper headlines livepanela anyone else. on tomorrow's newspaper headlines livepanel tonight, else. on tomorrow's newspaper headlines livepanel tonight, ielse. on tomorrow's newspaper headlines livepanel tonight, i have on tomorrow's newspaper headlines livepanel tonight, i have got on my panel tonight, i have got legendary journalist harriet sergeant , the always outspoken sergeant, the always outspoken benjamin and editor benjamin butterworth and editor at large of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. ready britain go britain, here we go.

should . junior doctor union should. junior doctor union leaders be sent to prison over patient deaths during the strikes? all of that after the . news. >> patrick. thank you. good afternoon. from good evening. in fact, from the gb newsroom. the time is 10:00. the headlines first, it's understood that the post office is under criminal investigation over the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of its staff during the horizon scandal . between 1999 and 2015, more than 700 people were bankrupted or jailed when flawed software led to false allegations that . led to false allegations that. they'd stolen money. this is the latest news coming to us, as the government is being urged to pay compensation to those that were affected, with labour calling it one the miscarriages of one of the worst miscarriages of justice to ever happen in britain. mean while the independent group that refers cases to the court of appeal is urging more potential victims to come forward . in other news,

come forward. in other news, labour says that the government is asleep at the wheel over its handung is asleep at the wheel over its handling flooding. as handling of flooding. that's as hundreds of warnings remain in place across the country. in nottinghamshire , a senior nottinghamshire, a senior councillor has said that some residents have been affected by flood waters. three times in just months, more than just three months, more than 1000 properties across england remain flooded after the heavy downpours. week, but floods downpours. this week, but floods minister robbie moore says that the government has provided enough money for flood prevention . prevention. >> of course, always more to do , >> of course, always more to do, but i know how hard local authorities are working with the environment . we have environment agency. we have experienced amount of experienced a huge amount of rain, which has fallen as you will see right across the country, not only here in nottinghamshire down in the nottinghamshire but down in the severn valley and severn trent nottinghamshire but down in the severrum,ley and severn trent nottinghamshire but down in the severrum, butand severn trent nottinghamshire but down in the severr um, but also '>evern trent nottinghamshire but down in the severr um, but also down trent nottinghamshire but down in the severrum, but also down inant areas, um, but also down in gloucestershire, where we are as a government in contact with the environment agency, working closely local authorities, closely with local authorities, making are making sure that we are providing as much support to residents to businesses that have been impacted. and that's exactly we are out and about i >> meanwhile, rishi sunak is facing another by—election after

mp chris skidmore has announced that he will resign as soon as possible . the former energy possible. the former energy minister plans to step down when parliament returns next week because legislation for because of new legislation for oil and gas drilling, which he says is wrong and will cause future harm. government says future harm. the government says the planned expansion, though of new fossil fuels in the north sea, vital achieve energy sea, is vital to achieve energy security . a senior leader security plans. a senior leader of the nhs says the combination of the nhs says the combination of strike action and rising cases of the flu is creating a perfect storm for the struggling health service. sirjulian hartley's comments come as junior doctors here in england continue their six day strike over pay and conditions. that's the longest industrial action in nhs history , figures published nhs history, figures published today show. the number of flu patients in england jumped by more than a third over the christmas period , while covid christmas period, while covid numbers are also increasing . ing numbers are also increasing. ing sir julian said severe and long sirjulian said severe and long standing staff shortages have led to low staff morale as heavy workloads take their toll in the us , new court documents released

us, new court documents released today have revealed claims that prince andrew had daily massages when he visited jeffrey epstein in florida . when he visited jeffrey epstein in florida. in a when he visited jeffrey epstein in florida . in a transcript from in florida. in a transcript from evidence in 2009, epstein's former housekeeper said the duke of york was one of the celebrities who spent weeks at the palm beach home. it's the third round of documents to be unsealed detailing those who had connections with sex offender jeffrey epstein. earlier this week, the first batch of files named the prince , along with 150 named the prince, along with 150 others. he though strongly denies any wrongdoing . denies any wrongdoing. meanwhile, a man who suspected of faking his own death has been extradited from scotland to the us. nicholas nicolas rossi is wanted for allegedly raping a woman in 2008. he was arrested in glasgow in 2021, but claimed it was a case of mistaken identity . he insisted he was identity. he insisted he was instead an orphan named arthur knight . after a long legal knight. after a long legal battle in the scottish courts. the 36 year old has now been ordered to face charges against him in the us as.

ordered to face charges against him in the us as . and the actor him in the us as. and the actor david soul has died at the age of 80. he was best known for his role in the classic tv series starsky and hutch, which followed two streetwise police officers. the series ran for four seasons along the novel, along novels even along with novels and even a video . soul relocated to video game. soul relocated to the uk in later years, before he and his co—star reprised their roles in a 2020 2004 hollywood film which starred ben stiller and owen wilson. do you remember it? >> don't you , sir? >> don't you, sir? >> don't you, sir? >> that's the latest from the gb newsroom for more, we're on tv, radio and our website gb news. com this is gb news. >> junior doctors union leaders are supposed to save patients, not kill them . a new development not kill them. a new development today means the smarmy militant doctor union bigwigs will have nowhere to hide. the bma has reportedly refused every single urgent plea from hospitals to get junior doctors to cross the

picket line and help dying patients . apart from one patients. apart from one neonatal case and they were bragging about that on twitter today. there you go. there were saying, oh, we have granted a derogation for one junior doctor in the neonatal unit. there we go. oh, thank you very much for letting a baby live . okay. letting a baby live. okay. hospitals and patients are crying out for help. and union barons have been saying no. shameful . now the barons have been saying no. shameful. now the nhs is going to log. and this is the new bit going to log every single incident where a patient died or there was a near miss as a result of the junior doctors strikes. good. should do strikes. good. they should do that and then start prosecuting the union's top brass. maybe millions of appointments and operations have been cancelled dunng operations have been cancelled during strikes april. during the strikes in april. there were reportedly 11% more deaths than the five year average in 2023, 53,000 more people died than normal . the people died than normal. the highest figure in a non—pandemic year since the second world war. doctors were on strike for 38

days. we had a worse excess mortality rate than any developed country. as of mid—october. developed country. as of mid—october . for the bma, likes mid—october. for the bma, likes to say that it strikes aren't to blame, which in my view is utter bs. they say any . increase in bs. they say any. increase in excess deaths is a concern , but excess deaths is a concern, but it is wholly wrong to say that the strikes are the root cause. the two events might have happened at same but happened at the same time, but correlation is not causation, and statistician worth their and any statistician worth their salt confirm it is salt will confirm it is impossible and potentially dangerous the rise dangerous to attribute the rise to a single cause. do what? okay, now the nhs has had enough hospitals have been told to specifically record all safety incidents during strikes quotes so that we can evidence harmon near misses, which might have been avoided. they then need to use that evidence to make the people encouraging these strikes face justice. and if you are a junior doctor out there on the picket lines, please just bear this in mind. most. people, including myself , think you

including myself, think you should have a pay rise. most people, including myself, are very grateful for the job that you thank you for that. you do. so thank you for that. but you are lining up behind a smarmy, independently wealthy plastic unionist who , with his plastic unionist who, with his reported mortgage free flat and director role at daddy's investment company , isn't being investment company, isn't being massively financially affected by the strikes. possibly like you are. >> i lose pay from going out on strike. yes, okay. >> it's just your kind of personal finances. is obviously caused quite a lot of scrutiny. i mean , everyone has different, i mean, everyone has different, uh, financial circumstances . is uh, financial circumstances. is he really one of you? is he . i'm he really one of you? is he. i'm sure you genuinely care about the nhs and patients and british health care. but does he? he's the bma junior doctor, co—chair. okay. telling you not to cross the picket line when the reckoning comes and the death toll rises . do you really want toll rises. do you really want toll rises. do you really want to die on his hill? should . we

to die on his hill? should. we prosecute bma leaders for deaths caused by the strikes to respond to this now i'm joined again by legendary journalist harriet sergeant, always outspoken sergeant, the always outspoken benjamin butterworth, and the editor at large of the daily mail, charlotte griffiths. so this development today. this is the development today. i'm the strike action by junior doctors, which is that the nhs is its hospitals is telling its hospitals to record incidents deaths record now incidents of deaths or near misses that they say are directly linked to the junior doctors strike. that good doctors strike. is that a good thingthink it's an excellent >> i think it's an excellent thing. i think what is happening, we keep on having the junior doctors saying that they're doing this . they're they're doing this. they're striking because they care for patients. if that is the case, why have they chosen this one week? this is traditionally the worst week in the whole year for the nhs, for crises. worst week in the whole year for the nhs, for crises . flu, the nhs, for crises. flu, everything else, pent up demand after christmas and yet they have chosen that one week if you actually cared for patients, you would not have chosen that one week. the other thing is, i

think we should be limiting strikes and this when you have something as serious as a doctors strike, it shouldn't go on for days and days. it should. maybe two days. yeah but that's it. >> you decide if christmas we've had it, haven't we? we had loads of strikes last year. i mean, when's , you know, the round of when's, you know, the round of strikes to see strikes that we're going to see in, coming months in this in, in the coming months in this country ? benjamin, should the country? benjamin, should the unionists behind this actually face prosecution if people die . no. >> what this shows is how important these junior doctors are and the fact that they say, on the one hand, that we can't cope without with them, but on the other that we shouldn't pay them properly, compare them to canada, where they're paid 46,000. know, went on 46,000. you know, they went on strike canada and that strike once in canada and that was to strike against a public healthcare system. well, i mean , healthcare system. well, i mean, fine, to this fine, that's irrelevant to this scenario , isn't fact is scenario, isn't it? the fact is that our junior doctors are paid £29,000. that's about £20 an hour to have people's lives in their hands. after years of

training, exceptionally capable people. and they are begging . people. and they are begging. for the government to listen, they are not asking to do that. they are asking just to have the same they had 13 years ago. >> i do respect . you, but that's >> i do respect. you, but that's not true. they're not paid £29,000 after years of and after five years of training, after five years of training, after five studying, of them, five years of studying, of them, of them they are the of them studying, they are the highest paid graduate job out there. the second one is, i believe , engineers, right. so believe, engineers, right. so they they are comparatively well paid to other graduates. >> a junior doctor salary is £29,000. that's almost half what they would get if they were just in neighbouring ireland. that shows how poorly paid they are and the 35% increase they request would only put them at the same salary they had 13 years ago. the fact is, it is the government who has which has blood on its hands , and if it blood on its hands, and if it took seriously, it would took this seriously, it would pay took this seriously, it would pay them properly stop them pay them properly and stop them leaving in the nhs. leaving this country in the nhs. >> it should junior doctors, >> so it should junior doctors, the here. talking the unions here. i'm not talking about just out there about people, just all out there

on picket line. should the on the picket line. should the union face prosecution union leaders face prosecution if people die, do you think i don't should pay? don't know if they should pay? >> prosecution >> they should face prosecution because it's already they're kind struggling to make an kind of struggling to make an impact. anecdotally, impact. and anecdotally, i've got junior doctor who's got a junior doctor friend who's not who i spoke not on strike, who i spoke to stay way she stay on the way here and she said to said that they're struggling to make why make an impact. that's why they've gone for the january because they're desperate now. they're trying to make impact because they're desperate now. they'ractually,:o make impact because they're desperate now. they'ractually, um,3ke impact because they're desperate now. they'ractually, um, behind mpact because they're desperate now. they'ractually, um, behind the 1d . and actually, um, behind the scenes in in hospitals , you scenes in in hospitals, you know, other junior doctors are starting sort of lose starting to sort of lose interest whole thing. interest in the whole thing. i think start prosecuting think if we start prosecuting them, it will actually too them, it will actually give too much this whole much credence to this whole battle. be too much battle. there'll be too much attention on the whole thing. so i we i actually think we should we shouldn't do that, to be honest. no. okay. >> i mean, harry, the idea that hospitals saying please, hospitals are now saying please, please, , can you cross please, please, can you cross the line, because the picket line, please? because we've got in dying we've got people in here dying and is saying no, no to and the bma is saying no, no to that. i think that's cruel. >> i that's shocking that. i think that's cruel. >actually, that's shocking that. i think that's cruel. > actually, thithey hocking that. i think that's cruel. >actually, thithey are (ing , actually, because they are allowed that. hospital allowed to do that. the hospital trusts are allowed. that's part of the protocol to ask them to step across the picket lines. and the fact they're not doing it is, i think, really

it is, is, i think, really cruel. um, there was a man on the radio for, um, which usually backs the doctors and everything, but but this old man saying he felt he was claiming that he and his wife, he said, were poorly , were in our 70s. were poorly, were in our 70s. and we're just being dropped by the hospital . he's saying that the hospital. he's saying that old people like them are just literally being left to die because they can't cope any longer. there's . not enough, longer. there's. not enough, there's no doctors and you know, we are talking about people being left in pain and dying. >> it's about >> benjamin, if it's all about pay, >> benjamin, if it's all about pay, is it that when i spoke pay, why is it that when i spoke to co—chair of the bma to the co—chair of the bma junior union earlier in junior doctors union earlier in the week, and asked the week, and i asked him directly , even if you get directly, even if you get absolutely you're absolutely everything you're asking 35% asking for in pay 35% pay increase, guarantee that increase, can you guarantee that you will stay in britain? he said, no, it's not about pay, is it? about is it not just it? it's about is it not just about someone playing student politics no. >> historically , a >> i mean historically, a doctors extremely doctors strike is extremely unusual. i think these were unprecedented. well, not any more, we've the old.

more, because we've got the old. that shows you how appalling this government and its disregard and disrespect for the nhs and doctors is the fact is that this could end if only they paid them the same as what they were paid when they came into office. 13, 14 ago. and office. 13, 14 years ago. and i think most people understand that it takes exceptional responsibility and skill to be a doctor, and also costs a lot to train them. >> it's the most expensive degree, you know, not the taxpayer. i'll tell you what money. >> i'm sorry, patrick, but if you're going to log these people and say you're prosecuted for having strike and someone having strike days and someone gets well , gets really sick or dies, well, why don't you do the same for the ones that have left the nhs for or australia or the for canada or australia or the us? because they weren't paid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy they weren't paid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy don'tweren't paid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy don't you n't paid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy don't you do paid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy don't you do itiid for canada or australia or the us? beciwhy don't you do it both enough, why don't you do it both ways? >> what? prosecute for leaving? >> you're saying that they >> well, you're saying that they should prosecuted for trying should be prosecuted for trying to pay. well, i tell to get better pay. well, i tell you what leave altogether. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou at leave altogether. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou don't leave altogether. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou don't have le altogether. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou don't have a altogether. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou don't have a doctorther. to get better pay. well, i tell yotyou don't have a doctor 365 so you don't have a doctor 365 days a year if you don't pay them properly. and that's why they're on strike, right? >> there actually enough >> there aren't actually enough places in places like canada and australia to house all of the

doctors that are supposedly desperate to leave. it is not an outright land of milk and honey over they have a over there. they have a different system different health care system there same doctors there that those same doctors unions won't us to unions won't allow us to implement the implement over here at the moment charlotte, moment as well. and charlotte, i've you, no i've just got to ask you, no patience moment being patience at the moment being told really . can please told if you really. can please leave hospital. please. dr. foster , we've got one of the foster, we've got one of the highest health budgets of anywhere in the world. this cannot just be about taxpayers money. >> no, i don't think it is. i mean, another anecdote. mum >> no, i don't think it is. i measupposed' anecdote. mum >> no, i don't think it is. i mea supposed to 1ecdote. mum >> no, i don't think it is. i mea supposed to have te. mum >> no, i don't think it is. i measupposed to have an mum was supposed to have an operation on the fourth operation on on the fourth and hers was hers got cancelled and it was actually quite a serious and important she's important operation. but she's actually behind the strike. she thinks pleased , even thinks she's she's pleased, even though really important though it's a really important operation. she's actually quite pleased that pleased because she thinks that that be paying the that we should be paying the doctors um, doctors a bit more money. um, so there patients there who there are patients out there who are in of the are actually in support of the strikes, they're having strikes, even as they're having their cancelled. but their operations cancelled. but i just think they should be compromising on this 35% number. it's just too high. they just need to come down a bit and not bnng need to come down a bit and not bring it up so high in the first place. think touching. place. i think it's touching. >> think

>> yeah. i mean, i think the receipts this going to be receipts to this are going to be absolutely fascinating . when we absolutely fascinating. when we do see nhs hospitals publishing data at some point in the future about the amount of people who have died the amount about the amount of people who ha near died the amount about the amount of people who ha near misses d the amount about the amount of people who ha near misses d the arwere: of near misses that there were as junior as a result of the junior doctors strike. and i think the pubuc doctors strike. and i think the public change on public will will, will change on that very quick. >> just i think this >> well, just i think this should be done throughout the nhs, not just over junior doctors strike, but on every single the nhs logging single part of the nhs logging when patients come to harm , as when patients come to harm, as i have seen, investigation absolutely . absolutely. >> because. because at the moment the bma , the union moment the bma, the union leaders, hiding behind this leaders, are hiding behind this and saying, oh, we've always had critical incidents . oh no, look, critical incidents. oh no, look, we've always been a like we've always been a bit like this. yeah, there have been, this. and yeah, there have been, but shouldn't able but now they shouldn't be able to oh, to actually say, you know, oh, well, any of well, you can't link any of these actually our these deaths to actually our action. think it's action. and i think it's important to face action. and i think it's impconsequences. to face action. and i think it's impconsequences. but to face action. and i think it's impconsequences. but humsface action. and i think it's impconsequences. but hums are the consequences. but hums are useless in scotland is in a world trouble, isn't he . world of trouble, isn't he. khalife lord justice clerk white, every high court judge, white, the lord advocate, white. yeah. all right. okay well, the millionaire businessman that he's backing for cash to save the skint snp . uh, yeah. yeah, the skint snp. uh, yeah. yeah,

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channel, britain's news channel. >> this is patrick christys tonight only on gb news. now it seems that natwest have landed themselves in hot water yet again today, and this time it has nothing to do with de—banking certain high profile politicians. appearance on politicians. in an appearance on radio four today programme, sir howard davies , the chairman of howard davies, the chairman of natwest , said that it is natwest, said that it is currently not that difficult to get on the property ladder. do you a listen? you have a little listen? >> think it's that >> i don't think it's that difficult at the moment, but to buy a house in this country, well , are we buy a house in this country, well, are we living in the same country? are you reporting from overseas? you have to be . overseas? you have to save, be. and that's the way it always used to be. >> 750 grand a year is on, charged between 6 and 10 grand for an after dinner. speaking gig- for an after dinner. speaking gig. i mean, you can get a mortgage pretty quickly that, mortgage pretty quickly on that, but has forced but sir howard has been forced to backtrack slightly following mass now says that mass outrage as he now says that he not intend to underplay he did not intend to underplay the serious challenges prospective homebuyers face. but the fact is, he obviously said what he said and is crystal clear. he meant that well earlier on i took a little trip

down natwest office to down to natwest head office to see or not people there see whether or not people there are on the property ladder. do the that he employs the people that he employs actually find it easy to get on the property ladder? and here's what some of them had so what some of them had to say. so chairman . said that it's easy to chairman. said that it's easy to get on the property ladder. is that why people don't like fat cats? you think so? the cats? do you think so? the chairman says it's chairman at natwest says it's easy the property easy to get on the property ladden easy to get on the property ladder. agree with it? do ladder. do you agree with it? do you think maybe it was a bit out of touch for him to say that? >> can't speak on, on, >> well, i can't speak on, on, on that, but it's not something that i agree with. >> your response to how people can be debunked for their political views, but it's easy to get on the property market. you've got anything to say to howard davies at all? the chairman of natwest groups, and he's easy to get on the property ladderis he's easy to get on the property ladder is that why people hate fat bankers ? so was the fat cat bankers? so was the chairman wrong to say that . chairman wrong to say that. because i can see you don't want to be on the call. so you want

to be on the call. so you want to ignore your chairman, thomas robert jenrick storm babet . do robert jenrick storm babet. do you think it speaks a bit to out of touch fat cats? >> absolutely, yes. i think that's the sort of, uh, uh , the that's the sort of, uh, uh, the environment in which it has to work because find it easy work in because you find it easy to on the property ladder. to get on the property ladder. >> is it that difficult to get on the property ladder at all? do for him to do you think it's bad for him to have said it in the middle of a cost of living crisis? >> i wouldn't bad. say >> i wouldn't say bad. i'll say a insensitive. a little insensitive. >> natwest , run by a load >> it's natwest, run by a load of touch fat cats. no . of out of touch fat cats. no. the chairman of natwest is easy to get on the property ladder. do you agree with that? he has apologised, which is right. he's right to do that. of course . right to do that. of course. well we go. joining me now well there we go. joining me now to remarks to discuss howard davies remarks is of shaw's financial is the owner of shaw's financial services, lewis shaw, and he's joined personality joined alongside tv personality ryan shapps. thank ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you will ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you with will ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you with you, will ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you with you, lewis. will ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you with you, lewis. do ll ryan mark parsons. shapps. thank you with you, lewis. do you start with you, lewis. do you think those comments were outraged say is outraged was to say that it is not difficult to get on

not that difficult to get on the property it's incredibly out >> i think it's incredibly out of . i speak to first time of touch. i speak to first time buyers day in, day out, and none of turn up think, this of them turn up and think, this is mean, we is really simple. i mean, we know that people are facing a cost of living crisis. we know that hardest things that one of the hardest things for to do is for first time buyers to do is save the deposit. they save the deposit. and they currently squeezed by currently being squeezed by landlords charging eye—watering rents. so it's not rents. so of course it's not easy. it's outrageous for someone on three quarters of £1 million a year to say that it's absolutely a slap the face absolutely a slap in the face for anyone that's struggling to try and get a home for themselves, right, mark? >> was basically saying, oh, >> he was basically saying, oh, look, you've just got to save a little bit old trope of a look, you've just got to save a litt lesst old trope of a look, you've just got to save a litt less avocadoi trope of a look, you've just got to save a litt less avocado on)pe of a look, you've just got to save a litt less avocado on toast and bit less avocado on toast and a couple of less macchiato lattes and you'll be absolutely fine. that about grand that guy is on about 750 grand a yeah that guy is on about 750 grand a year. there'll be bonuses as well. little look it well. we had a little look at it . he can charge between 6 and 10 grand for an after dinner. speaking conceivably grand for an after dinner. speakgo conceivably grand for an after dinner. speakgo to conceivably grand for an after dinner. speakgo to a conceivably grand for an after dinner. speakgo to a dinner:onceivably grand for an after dinner. speakgo to a dinner party,'ably could go to a dinner party, right? do ten after dinner, speaking gigs where he slags off nigel farage about how nigel farage and talks about how they ultimately they tried and then ultimately failed and bingo , failed to debunk him. and bingo, he's got a deposit for a nice

flat hasn't he ? flat in mayfair, hasn't he? >> think it's a bit >> yeah, i think it's a bit silly of sir davey to say that on national radio and insensitive. >> i mean, considering over the past 50 years the average cost of a house has almost increased compared comparatively to the average wage of a worker in uk. >> and i, i think someone on £760,000 a year doesn't necessarily relate to that. >> at the time , in his >> but at the same time, in his defence, a lot of young people i'm 23, i went on holiday with someone complaining about not being able to afford a house, but then he was on a £5,000 summer holiday to mykonos . so summer holiday to mykonos. so i think sometimes there's a lack of realisation in terms of people wanting to splash the cash on very hedonistic things, but that that money could actually be sent to a savings account or an isa where you could potentially put down a deposit on a mortgage. so i think there's of think there's lots of considerations at play, and i wouldn't say that it's a bad thing to encourage people to be

aspirational . aspirational. >> no. look, there is definitely some truth, a lot of truth actually, that , you know, if actually, that, you know, if you're going to go and drink £25 rooftop cocktails around london every single night and then complain that can't , uh, complain that you can't, uh, have yeah, i don't have any savings. yeah, i don't have any savings. yeah, i don't have any savings. yeah, i don't have any sympathy you, but have any sympathy for you, but i think is something that think there is something that sticks craw little sticks in the craw a little bit. lewis these lewis about, you know, these kind of very woke banks, especially , who've been especially, who've been de—banking people for their views . and not really giving views. and not really giving them any explanation for all of that side of thing. uh, have someone there who's coming out and that and and fronting that up and seemingly completely out of touch average and touch with the average man and woman on the street. >> it is out. it is out of touch. there's question touch. there's no question about it. bound touch. there's no question about it. out bound touch. there's no question about it. out of bound touch. there's no question about it. out of touch, bound touch. there's no question about it. out of touch, isn't»und touch. there's no question about it. out of touch, isn't it?j to be out of touch, isn't it? someone that's, you know, into the kind the 70 that's earning that kind of to of money? they're not going to know for the know what it's like for the young working the young person that's working the first or second job, trying to actually save the deposit. i do want pull up this, uh, want to pull up this, uh, notion, people notion, though, that people shouldn't go on holiday because actually , it's, of course, actually, it's, of course, building a deposit is building up a deposit is important, it is very important, and it is very difficult for people when

they're paying high rents. however for the idea that people shouldn't be able to enjoy their lives. moreover, property prices are so out of reach that even if you can get the savings required i.e. for example, a 10% deposit, you may not be able to actually to actually get the mortgage that's required because of course by income course that's capped by income multiples. so this idea that people, you know, can't enjoy their lives, i'm not too sure that i agree that because that i agree with that because is know, you've is actually, you know, you've got let's say, got to be earning. let's say, £100,000 in london to save £100,000 in london to save £100,000 to then buy a place that's half £1 million. and i know that's an incredible amount of that's let's be of money, but that's let's be honest, not honest, in london that's not that's not an extraordinary property . property. >> okay. ryan—mark >> okay. ryan—mark >> well, what i would say to that as well, i didn't say that people can't enjoy their lives and i talking and go on holiday. i was talking about exorbitant spending. if someone's to mykonos . and someone's going to mykonos. and spending £5,000 on a summer holiday, which is well above what any ordinary would what any ordinary person would spend, and then complaining about raise about not being able to raise the that's the deposit, i think that's problematic . and problematic. and that's a mentality needs to be mentality that needs to be

changed, driven by changed, probably driven by social media and this quest for hedonism and competitiveness . hedonism and competitiveness. but i'd also say that you need to be quite , quite to be quite, quite entrepreneurial. now, the 9 to 5 isn't cutting it. you've got to find multiple sources of income in order to feasibly put down a deposit. i mean, i'm working in several different and several different jobs and i think that's what you've got to do nowadays. realistically in order the money. if you order to raise the money. if you want to buy in london. i mean, the average house price is £700,000 across uk £700,000 in london across uk it's £270,000. it's a lot of money to put down if you're just stuck in a corporate 9 to 5 job and that's all you do and that's all you want to do for your life, and for the rest of your life, and you're that you you're complaining that you can't then can't raise a deposit, then actually a more inventive actually be a bit more inventive and entrepreneurial. that's what i'd well, look , both of you, we >> well, look, both of you, we are bang of there are bang out of time. there i'm afraid. very, very afraid. but thank you very, very much. to chat to you much. we'd love to chat to you again that again very, very soon. that was lewis shaw, shore lewis shaw, owner of shore financial services and tv personality mark. pastor, personality ryan mark. pastor, can just say, when you're can i just say, when you're here, an individual the here, an individual is the chairman a bank saying things chairman of a bank saying things like that . just think next time like that. just think next time that that bank virtue signals to

you , right? the next time that you, right? the next time that they whole pride flag they put the whole pride flag up, the next time they go to bank people for their political views , do you honestly really views, do you honestly really think that the people at the top of that bank show the kind of views that they are trying to force on the masses? i don't i absolutely don't, and i think that exposed it. they're coming up reaction from journalist and broadcaster michael crick massive broadcaster michael crick mas�*the office under that the post office is under a criminal investigation over the wrongful hundreds wrongful prosecution of hundreds of sub postmasters, that development happened about half an hour ago. we'll have the very latest on that. but next, my an hour ago. we'll have the very latestpack, at. but next, my an hour ago. we'll have the very latestpack, the3ut next, my an hour ago. we'll have the very latestpack, the most ext, my press pack, the most entertaining newspaper review that find anywhere on that you will find anywhere on the diving into the telly. deep diving into tomorrow's front pages. don't tomorrow's front pages. so don't miss you'll

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post office faces police inquiry over it. scandal scotland yard is going to examine potential fraud . this is a huge fraud. this is a huge development and in about five minutes time i'm going to be talking to michael crick on this. who was this. the journalist who was on the he's been the show yesterday, he's been leading charge on this, so leading the charge on this, so he's be to on discuss he's going to be to on discuss that. we'll go to the telegraph now, tory quits over now, top green tory quits over net zero row chris skidmore , net zero row chris skidmore, former energy minister, resigns over oil triggering over oil deal triggering by—election. there's also here on the front. prince will have to find millions to keep royal lodge his home. that is a prince andrew's story . let's go to the andrew's story. let's go to the mail. pressure on. met to quiz andrew. yeah, there we go . new andrew. yeah, there we go. new court papers claim he has knowledge of epstein's sex trafficking. the mirror now . trafficking. the mirror now. very sad story. this. goodbye, darling derek itv's kate garraway tears and tribute suits as husband dies after long battle with covid that is, of course, derek draper . the sun course, derek draper. the sun very similar front page there. i held derek's hand to the end.

the daily express also lead with this story. rest gently and peacefully . see, uh, kate's pain peacefully. see, uh, kate's pain at loss of darling derek. we go to the independent now, uh, massive picture story on the front there of a wading front there of a man wading through washed out , they through water washed out, they say more than 1000 flooded say more than 1000 homes flooded as rain swells. rivers as record rain swells. rivers and the eye rats infesting uk towns and cities has been chaos leads to rubbish piles and actually quite a cute little picture of a rat there. if you're into them . there we go. you're into them. there we go. all right, look, i'm going to go to my panel now we're going to my panel now and we're going to my panel now and we're going to the prince andrew, to start on the prince andrew, uh, developments. like i said, we'll go into the post office scandal a little bit later on. pressure a quiz. pressure on matt's a quiz. andrew i'll start andrew and charlotte, i'll start with at at with you. editor at large at the mail sunday. there new mail on sunday. there are new developments here, aren't they? there it now looks he had >> um, it now looks like he had knowledge and that there were daily orgies. so that's that's kind of a step further than we've known about before. we didn't was daily didn't know he was having daily orgies . acas massive. um, orgies. acas house. massive. um, so a accusation. so that's a new accusation. there and, uh, yeah. and there's

pressure on him. there's pressure on him. there's pressure on him. there's pressure on the met to quiz him over this. and it says here that the were rallying the family were rallying around him home in windsor, him at his home in windsor, which is interesting because we're hearing a lot of things behind the scenes about how much of a low ebb he's at at the moment. you he's been of a low ebb he's at at the mon been you he's been of a low ebb he's at at the monbeen anticipating he's been of a low ebb he's at at the monbeen anticipating this 's been of a low ebb he's at at the mon been anticipating this forieen he's been anticipating this for weeks, and now it's hit and it's actually worse than even i anticipated probably worse anticipated and probably worse than he anticipated, too. >> i mean, it is again, he's denying all of this, right? but i mean, harry, this is shocking stuff. is shocking stuff . and it stuff. is shocking stuff. and it massively elevates the issue here. i mean, yes, and also i mean some of the details that that have just come out today from all these papers . from all these papers. >> i mean, the sort of kissing game when they've got a sort of a circle of about ten girls from the ages of 14 to 18 doing, you know , awful things. i mean , know, awful things. i mean, details like that really sort of sick and upsetting . um, and sick and upsetting. um, and also, there's a lot of stuff has come out about bill clinton, which again, i mean, this is the

first time up until now, only ghislaine maxwell has paid for this whole scandal. and finally , this whole scandal. and finally, finally, we are now getting to find out about the men more about the men who were after all, the people having sex with these girls. um, and clinton is there are more papers about clinton than anyone . else. clinton than anyone. else. >> yeah, yeah, it certainly appears that way at the moment. benjamin it's on the front of the telegraph. this so this is less to do the actual less to do with the actual sordid revelations of and allegations of prince andrew. right. in terms of orgies and daily massages. this. is the practicalities of what happens . practicalities of what happens. next right? so he will have to find millions to keep royal lodges home. what happens there? >> king lodges home. what happens there? >> any king lodges home. what happens there? >> any and king lodges home. what happens there? >> any and all king has any sense and all indications are over the last couple the couple of years through the transition does have transition period, he does have sense. will stick by sense. then he will stick by what is what the daily telegraph is suggesting that suggesting here, which is that prince to pay suggesting here, which is that prirthe to pay suggesting here, which is that prirthe security to pay suggesting here, which is that prirthe security royalto pay for the security for royal lodge, cost fortune

lodge, which will cost a fortune . it's unclear how much money prince has at this prince andrew has left at this point. his late mother point. obviously his late mother paid that £12 million deal. he denies everything, but strangely, £12 million was paid. and i think there's also a massive of course , massive pr risk. of course, because public despise because the public despise prince andrew. they have decided that he's guilty, even if he insists that he's innocent. he is utterly loathed by the public. and i think any more allegations , owens, any more allegations, owens, any more detail on this, this man should never be seen in public again. and you talk about the daily mail page, which mail front page, which says that the the for the door is open for the for scotland investigate . scotland yard to investigate. yeah.i scotland yard to investigate. yeah. i mean, that's one interpretation. what they basically they're basically said was that they're not if new not investigating. but if new evidence emerges, that is sufficient for an investigation, they will now, think that's a they will now, i think that's a rather way of saying rather diplomatic way of saying they really don't want to. well, they really don't want to. well, they it. they obviously don't want it. >> obviously want it. >> they obviously don't want it. >> they obviously don't want it. >> yesterday, >> and as of yesterday, yesterday, they're saying we're not more not going to now, today, more revelations have come out and now door open again . so, now the door is open again. so, um, . they don't i mean, you um, yeah. they don't i mean, you know, this man is so arrogant. >> he, he he just seems

completely unaware of the loathing of in which that loathing of you in which that interview . interview. >> i mean, in the light of this again, it's important to say that prince andrew vehemently and repeatedly denied the allegations . and repeatedly denied the allegations. but we are seeing more and more of these documents coming out mean, good coming out now. i mean, good grief, next? grief, what what's coming next? and i think it's becoming increasingly difficult to see how the police if i was accused of any of this stuff, i would expect a knock on the door from the police. yeah >> and you'd also royal >> and you'd also leave royal lodge . the fact he's lodge. the fact that he's clinging on royal lodge clinging on to royal lodge and refusing his refusing to move out shows his arrogance , because be arrogance, because you'd be running .you'd be, you running away. you'd be, you know, your tail between know, have your tail between your legs, skulking in the your legs, skulking off in the distance. to distance. you wouldn't want to live somewhere called royal lodge you were no a lodge if you were no longer a royal. you this man is >> but you know, this man is sort of so arrogant that he insists that his two daughters be princesses, that not insists that his two daughters be prthe sses, that not insists that his two daughters be prthe precedent that not insists that his two daughters be prthe precedent wast not insists that his two daughters be prthe precedent wast that: what the precedent was for, that person insisted that person in line insisted that they had security when they weren't they had security when they werroyals . >> royals. >> royals. >> exactly. you know, he's never done a serious day's work in his life. but i think the king, i suspect that he will be suspect that he will just be firmer on him . you know, they're firmer on him. you know, they're not very close. they're actually

12 they 12 years apart in age. so they basically didn't grow up together. i don't his together. i don't fancy his chances protecting chances with the king protecting him just him, despite being just the excuse needs to excuse the king needs to actually get him out of royal lodge. >> yes, been lodge. » yes, >> yes, he's been trying for a long time, andrew and his long time, and andrew and his stubbornness now stubbornness won't go and now charles can finally look, charles can finally say, look, you've they've charles can finally say, look, you"and they've charles can finally say, look, you"and he'll they've charles can finally say, look, you"and he'll anotherve charles can finally say, look, you"and he'll another way got. and he'll find another way to downgrade andrew even further , because needs be downgraded. >> if you think even fergie downgraded. >> still if you think even fergie downgraded. >> still get>u think even fergie downgraded. >> still get remarried'en fergie downgraded. >> still get remarried , n fergie downgraded. >> still get remarried , i fergie will still get remarried, i think actually probably think they actually probably will remarried. think they actually probably will have remarried. think they actually probably will have to remarried. think they actually probably will have to say,3rried. think they actually probably will have to say, iried. think they actually probably will have to say, i find myself >> i have to say, i find myself an extraordinarily position here, actually saying here, which is actually saying something about something nice about prince andrew. the one thing is he andrew. but the one thing is he has been a good father and he seems to i mean, he's inspired loyalty in his in his daughters and in his ex—wife . which one and in his ex—wife. which one has to give him credit for that ? has to give him credit for that? i mean, they have stuck to him. fergie stuck to him even though they're divorced . they're divorced. >> well, she to, doesn't >> well, she has to, doesn't she? know she knows >> well, she has to, doesn't she? her know she knows >> well, she has to, doesn't she? her bread know she knows >> well, she has to, doesn't she? her bread is (now she knows >> well, she has to, doesn't she? her bread is butterede knows >> well, she has to, doesn't she? her bread is buttered to ;nows where her bread is buttered to know. years she know. well, for many years she did. she did. it was helpful for her circumstances. well remain . her circumstances. well remain. close to the world. >> i mean, i think the question he has with this laws is the

fact that he loyalty to fact that he showed loyalty to a convicted well well, convicted paedophile. well well, i'm not i'm him. i'm not i'm not him. >> will only go far, i don't think. >> i don't think anyone's accusing you of standing up for jeffrey or anything like jeffrey epstein or anything like that. don't worry. look, i'm just wondering got just wondering if i've got a couple that might couple of minutes that i might be able a inside be able to do a quick inside story , because we're going to go story, because we're going to go to the front of the times later story, because we're going to go to twhich1t of the times later story, because we're going to go to twhich1t of tipostnes later story, because we're going to go to twhich1t of tipost office :er on, which is the post office facing inquiry the facing a police inquiry over the it i do have in it scandal. i do have a story in front me which run front of me here, which i'll run you panel, which front of me here, which i'll run yo about panel, which front of me here, which i'll run yo about snp panel, which front of me here, which i'll run yo about snp donationsel, which front of me here, which i'll run yo about snp donations drying:h is about snp donations drying up as yousaf for more as humza yousaf begs for more money. yousaf money. right. so humza yousaf has beg has been forced to beg separatist supporters . for more separatist supporters. for more money after the snp's donations started to dry up. he's trying to woo a chap called sir brian souter as cash flows collapsed in the wake of police scotland's operation branch. formal investigation finances investigation into snp finances is stagecoach . co—founder is the stagecoach. co—founder previously gave the snp more than £25 million during alex salmond's stint as first minister, so look, humza yousaf now is massively rattling the can north of the border, isn't he? i mean, the snp appears like he? i mean, the snp appears like he might be about to go pop.

well it's, i mean eye—watering that only managed to raise that he's only managed to raise £10,000 pounds since he's become leader i that's just but that says it all though doesn't it. saysit says it all though doesn't it. says it all about exactly. >> it says it all. and now he's put up, uh, income tax. so the business leaders are all rattled and don't particularly want to give money, but £10,000 give him any money, but £10,000 is peanuts. but this guy, this guy couldn't run a bath, right? >> he's been in >> he's everything he's been in charge of been an absolute charge of has been an absolute disaster. of disaster. he's in charge of health on health and scotland's record on that as that is widely regarded as absolutely appalling. when he was transport minister , there was transport minister, there were issues with him, whether or not he was actually wearing a seat belt or car insurance not he was actually wearing a se onezlt or car insurance not he was actually wearing a se onezlt or which insurance at one point, which is not a particularly great luck, is it? and when and now, shock, horror, when nicola sturgeon, nicola nicola sturgeon, saint nicola appoints nicola sturgeon, saint nicola app highest office. you know the highest office. you know he's rubbish at that as well, isn't he. yeah. i mean ten grand isn't he. yeah. i mean ten grand is nothing for context. >> breakfast rachel >> uh, a breakfast with rachel reeves quarter of reeves raised a quarter of £1 million an hour. million in less than an hour. what? so that's the kind of context looking at with context you're looking at with the labour party give you the labour party to give you some perspective . sir brian some perspective. but, sir brian souter, was behind the keep

remember, was behind the keep section 2028 campaign to stop kids learning about gay people in council buildings and schools. he's very socially concerned . and so the idea that concerned. and so the idea that you've got someone who puts out his social liberalism, like humza going cap . in hand humza yousaf, going cap. in hand to an incredibly socially conservative millionaire , conservative millionaire, absolutely desperate, literally selling is so called principles down the river for a couple of million quid. down the river for a couple of milnot quid. down the river for a couple of milnot ajid. down the river for a couple of milnot a great look. >> not a great look. >> not a great look. >> whole thing is >> no, the whole thing is totally and utterly mortifying. i burying totally and utterly mortifying. i in burying totally and utterly mortifying. i in hands. ying what head in his hands. and what a brilliant freedom head in his hands. and what a brilliantfreedom information brilliant freedom of information request , because this all request, because this all happenedin request, because this all happened in and we're happened in july and we're only finding about now. happened in july and we're only fin(oh, about now. happened in july and we're only fin(oh, asojt now. happened in july and we're only fin(oh, aso okay. ow. happened in july and we're only fin(oh, aso okay. yeah, >> oh, god. so okay. yeah, somebody is their money somebody is earning their money there. and now look. coming up. okay be okay we're going to be nominating britons nominating our greatest britons and but . next and union jackasses. but. next and this is the big one, really, isn't it? more reaction now from journalist michael crick broadcaster this broadcaster michael crick. this developing post developing story that the post office . criminal office is now under. criminal investigation over the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of subpostmasters . that story subpostmasters. that story initially kicked off about an hour ago. we're going to have the bloke

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gb news. patrick christys tonight. only on gb news. now the post office is under criminal investigation over the wrongful prosecution of hundreds subpostmasters. hundreds of subpostmasters. scotland yard has confirmed that moments ago, metropolitan police detectives are looking at potential fraud offences committed in the handling of the honzon committed in the handling of the horizon it scandal. someone who has been across this since the very beginning is journalist and author michael crick and michael , it's great to you back author michael crick and michael , it' thank to you back author michael crick and michael , it' thank you you back author michael crick and michael , it' thank you very,(ou back author michael crick and michael , it' thank you very, very ack author michael crick and michael , it' thank you very, very much. on. thank you very, very much. what this big what do you make of this big development it development now? what does it mean, mean mean, and what does it mean for ed well? the leader of ed davey as well? the leader of the dems well i think the lib dems is. well i think what it means for ed davey is probably the least of our considerations . considerations. >> uh, the important thing is , >> uh, the important thing is, are the subpostmasters going to get justice and is the post office and fujitsu remember the company behind and the horizon

computer system ? computer system? >> people haven't mentioned them much this week . they should do. much this week. they should do. they consider them. they should consider them. >> they now , uh, are we >> uh, are they now, uh, are we actually going to see justice done? >> and what we don't know about this story that's broken tonight from whether , uh, from the times is whether, uh, this is something that just resulted this week or whether scotland yard, the metropolitan police have been working on this for some time. i, suspect it's for some time. i, i suspect it's the latter, but we don't know. uh, it would seem extraordinary that the police would only come in because of popular in because of a popular and shocking , uh, television drama shocking, uh, television drama series . series. >> and, you know, on the face of it, it does look like , uh, the it, it does look like, uh, the post office may have committed fraud because there are clearly a number of cases over the 24 years of this scandal, 24 years extraordinary , where people were extraordinary, where people were lied to , uh, where people were lied to, uh, where people were told that they were the only case of, uh, problems with the system. >> and when it turns out in fact, there are hundreds if not thousands of cases and all sorts of other acts, apparent acts of

dishonesty that have emerged over the years in court cases and now in the inquiry that's going on. so it's absolutely right that the police should be investigating this. frankly they should have been investigating this years and years ago. >> yeah, absolutely . and they >> yeah, absolutely. and they are urging now the criminal cases review commission, which refers cases to the court of appealis refers cases to the court of appeal, is urging more potential victims to come forward. i mean, this could get even bigger. it's already widely regarded as one of the miscarriages of of the biggest miscarriages of justice that could get even bigger. um, and they're saying that, uh, postmasters . who that, uh, postmasters. who played a chief role in this are now hoping that there will be criminal prosecutions. the scale of this could be really massive . of this could be really massive. i mean, this this would be a big victory i i think mean, victory, i think i think i mean, there were we've seen in the itv drama , there were 555 people who drama, there were 555 people who banded together for the for the legal action a few years ago, but i think this could run into thousands. >> i mean, i went into a post

office this afternoon here in the north of england, where i'm staying and staying at the moment, and i thought chat with, staying at the moment, and i thotknow, chat with, staying at the moment, and i thotknow, i'd chat with, staying at the moment, and i thotknow, i'd come:hat with, staying at the moment, and i thotknow, i'd come tot with, staying at the moment, and i thotknow, i'd come to do ith, you know, i'd come to do something else, but i thought you know, i'd come to do sorhave1g else, but i thought you know, i'd come to do sorhave a else, but i thought you know, i'd come to do sorhave a word but i thought you know, i'd come to do sorhave a word withi thought you know, i'd come to do sor have a word with the )ught i'd have a word with the postmaster. said , has it postmaster. and i said, has it been problem for you? and been a problem for you? and he said has. i haven't said, yes, it has. i haven't suffered as much as everybody else. thousand else. it was only a few thousand pounds was so shocked by pounds, but i was so shocked by this drama. i've resigned my this itv drama. i've resigned my position and now the local mp is trying to persuade him to change his mind. and i said, what about other and within five other people? and within five miles post village post miles of his post village post office, he knew of three other cases of people who had been prosecuted. one had been prosecuted. one had been prosecuted , one had had a family prosecuted, one had had a family break up, had to sell her home, uh, separate from her husband. i mean, the distress . that this mean, the distress. that this has caused, there could be thousands of cases now. and people have been frightened to join a result join in. and i think as a result of programme, they're now of this programme, they're now coming forward. of this programme, they're now con but forward. of this programme, they're now con but michael of this programme, they're now conbut michael as of this programme, they're now con but michael as well the, the, >> but michael as well the, the, the technology involved here, the technology involved here, the company behind the technology also has i technology also has other i think also technology also has other i thin other also technology also has other i thin other very also technology also has other i thin other very high also technology also has other i thin other very high profile so has other very high profile contracts that's going in

contracts that's going to be in the spotlight. other departments, other completely different . different sectors. >> they've . got loads of >> now they've. got loads of they've got more than 100 contracts across the public sector and no doubt the government is considering fujitsu for future contracts right now. uh, and i would say to anybody in government, anybody who is a non—executive member of a non—executive board in the public sector or the private sector, for that matter, matter to grill their managements and preferably grill the representatives of fujitsu , the representatives of fujitsu, and really to test whether they are fit to carry on with this level of responsibility in our national life, it seems extraordinary that a company should have made such serious errors. and the company remember fujitsu contributed to the prosecution cases, which we now know, uh, many of which we now know, uh, many of which we now know, and probably all of them are unsafe. so fujitsu have big questions to answer here. the

focus this week has been on the post office. it should be on fujitsu as well. and whether they are fit right now or whether they can reform themselves , uh, and to deserve themselves, uh, and to deserve of the awarding of future government contracts. the trouble is there isn't much competition in this field and the government will be in trouble if all their contracts were suddenly to be scrapped . were suddenly to be scrapped. >> yeah. and obviously the situation that hasn't changed is that there is there is pressure on ed davey to come out. and his role at the time as the minister, uh , to who ignored minister, uh, to who ignored this and to now now this basically and to now now come out and if there are prosecutions , i suppose it just prosecutions, i suppose it just just adds to adds to his error there which which he of course, was greatly to fair. >> i mean, we spoke about ed davey. >> i mean, we spoke about ed davey . last night and he did davey. last night and he did behave very badly , and he now behave very badly, and he now recognises his failings and he was very, very weak. but there were you know, the postal were other, you know, the postal affairs is those affairs minister is one of those jobs that changed at regular, very and regular very rapid and regular intervals. been intervals. there have been several people held several other people who held that job. davey is of that job. ed davey is one of the few affairs ministers who few postal affairs ministers who

still in politics. i mean, margot james, the conservative minister, she's now left politics. jo swinson , she's left politics. jo swinson, she's left politics. jo swinson, she's left politics. and you could politics. so. and you could argue that the secretaries of state responsible as well. state were responsible as well. and have to go and then you'd have to go through. are other through. so there are other people politics or who were people in politics or who were in bear some of in politics who bear some of the responsibility and but at responsibility here. and but at the same time, you're going to have recognise that there are have to recognise that there are lots of mps james arbuthnot have to recognise that there are lots in mps james arbuthnot have to recognise that there are lots in mpslordsjames arbuthnot have to recognise that there are lots in mpslords ,|mes arbuthnot have to recognise that there are lots in mpslords , who arbuthnot have to recognise that there are lots in mpslords , who did uthnot now in the lords, who did an amazing job for postmasters. >> we've got it. sorry to cut you off in your prime. there but michael crick, you very, michael crick, thank you very, very about very much and we will talk about this again probably just next week um, right. it's week. anyway. um, right. it's time reveal now today's time to reveal now today's greatest union jack greatest britain on union jack carson . right. let's start carson. right. okay, let's start with the greatest britons. please, harriet. >> what is this? the jacket . >> what is this? the jacket. >> what is this? the jacket. >> your greatest britain. who is youn >> your greatest britain. who is your. person you've your. who's the person you've nominated? your greatest president. >> my britain president. » my >> so my greatest britain at the moment. that moment. following on from that great interview , um, is alan great interview, um, is alan bates. yes who has campaigned for over 20 years, who's a post office man, and he's campaigned and been just gone on and on on

everybody else lost interest with the story, thought it was never going come any he did never going to come any he did it and he turned down. he was offered an obe. he turned it down. >> all right. good okay. go on. >> all right. good okay. go on. >> and my greatest britain is derek draper, the husband of kate garraway, who passed away. but his own career was as an exceptional political operator in blair and brown's governments. okay. >> and charlotte and mines. >> and charlotte and mines. >> victoria atkins, the health minister. she's been around since november , but she's pretty since november, but she's pretty new to the job and she's doing a really and today she really good job. and today she said turned said the nhs can't be turned on and doesn't to and off. it doesn't belong to the she'd down the bma and that she'd sit down within 20 minutes if they called off so good. strong off the strike. so good. strong language right? >> hey, interesting, right? okay. today it's greatest. britain alan bates? yes there britain is alan bates? yes there we go. i know a strong contenders all around there. all winners now . matter winners very quickly now. matter of seconds, please. union jack, why ? oh, porn. why? oh, porn. >> of course . is she's just one >> of course. is she's just one of those gilded elite people who just floats from job to job without any accountability.

sounds great in relationship. she's held to account she's been held to account in relation the post office relation to the post office scandal as danny benjamin. >> so howard davies, uh, chair of said it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to said it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to buy said it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to buy a said it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to buy a home.i it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to buy a home. well, it's >> so howard davies, uh, chair of to buy a home. well, i'm easy to buy a home. well, i'm not sure it is, mate. >> enough. >> fair enough. >> fair enough. >> it. and mine's the >> got it. and mine's the fictional liverpudlian oliver quick from saltburn, because the whole nation is talking about him. the new favourite him. he's the new favourite villain. he's going to be the villain. he's going to be the villain 2024 we can't villain of 2024 that we can't stop about. stop talking about. >> right. i see what >> see? okay right. i see what you did there and well, the union jackass today. you did there and well, the union jackass today . okay, union jackass today. okay, everybody is . as sir howard everybody is. as sir howard davies is. got to be the man who's dropped an absolute clanger. can i just say a massive thank to my panel? massive thank you to my panel? i have it have really, really enjoyed it tonight and i hope to have you back on the show for more rip roaring success at some point next week, potentially anyway. right. thank you very much for my wonderful viewers and listeners do go listeners as well. please do go back anything back and rewatch anything on youtube. i urge you to do that. and , just wish a and yeah, just wish you all a very, weekend . and very, very happy weekend. and until next, keep until i see you next, keep fighting fight.

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cold start to the weekend could be some stubborn fog patches in southwest scotland, north—west england will be quite a grey day. fancy over parts eastern day. fancy over parts of eastern england drizzly, england a bit dank and drizzly, but thankfully not much in the way of heavy rainfall. and for many , certainly in the west, many, certainly in the west, we'll see quite a bit of weak winter sunshine, which will struggle to those struggle to lift those temperatures about 5 to 8 temperatures to about 5 to 8 celsius. average for celsius. so around average for the time of year. but turning cold saturday night, cold quickly on saturday night, another frosty starts across the nonh another frosty starts across the north on sunday. still quite cloudy at times in the east, but i'm more optimistic for a bit more sunshine coming through on sunday. for a and sunday. so for most, a dry and a bright sunny bright day with some sunny spells, be cold and spells, but it will be cold and it even colder with it will feel even colder with this wind across eastern this brisk wind across eastern and england. goodbye and southern england. goodbye >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather .

hello >> good evening. you're with gb news. i'm sam francis. the headunes news. i'm sam francis. the headlines at 11. first we start with some breaking news. the us supreme court has said that it will decide if donald trump can run for president . but the 12 run for president. but the 12 justices have agreed to review colorado's ruling that the former president ineligible former president is ineligible former president is ineligible for office. the case will be heard next month, and the ruling will apply across the whole of the us . lawsuits in a number of

the us. lawsuits in a number of other states are seeking to bar mr ballot, mr trump from the 2024 ballot, arguing that he engaged in insurrection during the us capitol riots exactly three years trump's years ago today. trump's lawyers, though, argue that the 14th amendment disqualify 14th amendment to disqualify a candidate doesn't apply to the president here in the uk , the president here in the uk, the post office is under criminal investigation over the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of its staff . metropolitan police staff. metropolitan police detectives say that they are looking at potential fraud offences committed during the honzon offences committed during the horizon . more than 700 horizon scandal. more than 700 people were bankrupted or jailed when software led to when flawed software led to false accusations that they'd stolen money. it comes as the government is being urged to pay compensation to those that were affected, and labour is calling it one of the worst miscarriages of happen in of justice to ever happen in britain. the britain. meanwhile, the independent refers independent group that refers cases to court of appeal is cases to the court of appeal is urging more potential victims to come forward . in other news, come forward. in other news, labour says that the government is asleep at the wheel over its handung is asleep at the wheel over its handling of flooding as hundreds of warnings remain