cundy. yes, she's back and also former labour party adviser matthew laza in just a moment we'll be discussing the national insurance tax cuts, climate control and of course munroe bergdorf because she became the un woman uk. they voted her and appointed her as a champion. really of women. uh, despite the fact that she's a man. but anyway, let's get your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> it's 3:00. good afternoon. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. hundreds of pro—palestinian protesters have staged a sit down in central london, blocking the road in front of westminster bridge. it is part of the free palestine coalition. march as several protest groups demand a ceasefire in gaza, the police have attempted to break up the demonstration in saint james's park and have seized the group's sound equipment . more flooding sound equipment. more flooding is expected to hit parts of the midlands, lincolnshire and the river thames this weekend as the wet weather continues . the new

wet weather continues. the new warnings come as temperatures in the uk are set to plummet . the uk are set to plummet. forecasters are warning of icy conditions in the coming week, with a cold weather alert in place until friday. hundreds of flood alerts remain in place across england and wales , with across england and wales, with exceptionally high and in some cases record river levels. homes in the midlands have already been damaged and newark resident michael the current michael johnson says the current floods are worse than normal . floods are worse than normal. >> trent comes up often, but >> the trent comes up often, but not as threatening as as this, so we have a series of measures to protect the property and by watching the river, we know how far to go with our precautions is until the final thing is that we're running pumps and we're also we're putting , uh, blockers also we're putting, uh, blockers across the doorways so that if the pump fails, our final barrier would be to keep it out of the house. >> a 16 year old boy has been remanded in custody charged with the murder of harry pitman , who the murder of harry pitman, who was stabbed in london on new

year's the teenager year's eve. the teenager died following what police say was an altercation as crowds gathered on primrose hill watch the on primrose hill to watch the fireworks. his sister has described harry as a good boy with a heart of gold who would never involved in violence. never be involved in violence. the suspect, who can't be named, has been with has also been charged with possessing weapon . possessing an offensive weapon. prince andrew had daily massages dunng prince andrew had daily massages during weeks he spent at jeffrey epstein's home in florida . epstein's home in florida. that's according to the convicted paedophiles housekeeper. newly released court documents include testimony from juan alessi, who said both prince andrew and his then wife sarah, duchess of york, were friends with epstein and told the now convicted sex trafficker ghislaine maxwell the unsealed files were part of a civil lawsuit against maxwell, who is serving a 20 year sentence for recruiting underage girls for epstein . the duke girls for epstein. the duke strenuously denies any wrongdoing . the chancellor says wrongdoing. the chancellor says he's not sure if the government can afford to offer voters more tax cuts. a 2% reduction on national insurance use comes

into force today . jeremy hunt into force today. jeremy hunt claims that will benefit 27 million people and save a family with two earners, nearly a thousand pounds this year. however the government has frozen the income tax threshold, which will push many into higher brackets. therefore offsetting the benefits. the chancellor admits further cuts are unlikely before the next election . before the next election. >> it was right to support family us through covid and through the cost of living crisis and yes, taxes had to go up in that period. but we are a conservative government that wants to bring down taxes because we recognise that families are finding life really tough. it's the start of a process . as chancellor, if i can process. as chancellor, if i can afford to go further, i will. i don't yet know if i can, but we want to do this because it helps families and it also helps to grow the economy . grow the economy. >> russia has used north korean made ballistic missiles in ukraine for the first time, according to an independent

weapons expert . the united weapons expert. the united states has described it as a significant and concerning escalation in arms cooperation between the countries. dutch researcher joost oltmans, who is among those to examine the debns among those to examine the debris , says russia is violating debris, says russia is violating international law . international law. >> russia should be adhering to the sanctions on north korea , the sanctions on north korea, uh, even more so when it's in the case of, uh, highly significant type of weapon system like this short . range system like this short. range ballistic missile systems that we're now seeing. so that's a really a very gross violation. uh it's just that there's no , uh it's just that there's no, uh, physical mechanism in place to prevent russia from importing , uh, clandestinely, even , even , uh, clandestinely, even, even very obviously clandestinely importing, uh, weapons systems, if they choose to do so . if they choose to do so. >> alaska airlines has grounded all boeing 737 max nine aircraft after a window and part of the fuselage blew out of a plane in mid—air, the plane was forced

into an emergency landing shortly after taking off from the us state of oregon . social the us state of oregon. social media footage shows a large hole in the plane where the emergency exit had been. 177 people, including crew, were on board. no one was hurt. an investigation has been launched . investigation has been launched. well, this is gb news and we're live across the uk on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker two that's it for me. now it's over to . nana. now it's over to. nana. >> uh, thank you and welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up up to 27 million workers will benefit from a cut to national insurance contributions. that's from today, with the main rate being reduced from 12 to 10. now. this will save brits up, up and down the country hundreds of pounds a yeah the country hundreds of pounds a year. but could this tax cut save the tories will be discussing that in the great british debate this hour. then

at 320 it's climate control where we'll be asking whether man made climate change has been writing this. jim dale, meteorologist and social commentator , and paul burgess, commentator, and paul burgess, climate scientist, will go head to head. monroe bergdorf is to head. then monroe bergdorf is in the political spotlight this week. the transgender activist has been appointed to the role of un women uk as the women's champion and ambassador, a role tasked with helping the tasked with helping empower the female of species that is female of the species that is coming the next hour. to coming up in the next hour. to tell what you on tell me what you think on everything we're discussing, email com email gb views gb news. com or tweet me at . gb news. right, tweet me at. gb news. right, so up to 27 million workers will benefit from a cut to national insurance contributions from today. the main rate is being reduced from 12 to 10. as i said earlier, saving a lot of british people hundreds of pounds. but what do you think this is.7 because what do you think this is? because national insurance remains april 2028. remains frozen until april 2028. so therefore a lot of people still risk being dragged into

paying still risk being dragged into paying it for the first time when this happens. this has led people to speculate that this policy is simply a hollow gesture designed to boost the conservatives failing poll numbers. well, they've got to do something, haven't they? right? gb news political correspondent katherine joins me in katherine forsterjoins me in the studio. catherine hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. well, because i'm angry. >> i've got to do something. >> i've got to do something. >> they have to, haven't they? i mean, this enough? if i had mean, is this enough? if i had to answer that in one word, i would say no . would say no. >> and they're 20 points behind in the polls. it looks like they're going towards the end of they're going towards the end of the year for the general election. i suspect shortly after election, after the american election, mid to late november could even go into december . but clearly they into december. but clearly they do to do something, um, to do have to do something, um, to try to get their approval ratings up. and a tax cut is a very obvious and let's face it, very obvious and let's face it, very welcome way to do it. so £0.02 off the national insurance rate £450 per person saved on average. great but as you've

mentioned they are giving with one hand and they're taking away with the other because these income tax thresholds were frozen a couple of years ago, they're set to stay frozen until 2028. meanwhile inflation people are earning more . more and more are earning more. more and more people are paying more and more tax. and in fact , the institute tax. and in fact, the institute for fiscal studies really well respected think tank said when jeremy hunt had his autumn statement, said that this parliament is the biggest tax raising parliament in modern times . so raising parliament in modern times. so yes, raising parliament in modern times . so yes, they're giving raising parliament in modern times. so yes, they're giving us a little tax cut. but in other ways they're taking more , more ways they're taking more, more and more. so, um, jeremy hunt, the chancellor, saying today , of the chancellor, saying today, of course they're going to make a lot of noise about it. they'd like to go further. he's saying he they'll be he doesn't know if they'll be able would suspect that able to. i would suspect that they will bend over backwards to find some money from somewhere to offer something else in march, with a view to thinking inflation falling , people having inflation falling, people having a bit more money, more tax cuts,

people feeling better ofcom the autumn, more inclined to stick with the conservatives, but in their defence and you know , it's their defence and you know, it's tough to defend them because of some of the ridiculousness that we've seen . we've seen. >> but in their defence, they would argue that they have a would argue that they have had a pandemic with, which is pandemic to deal with, which is unprecedented, no other unprecedented, really. no other party to deal with that party has had to deal with that in i'm aware of in my lifetime that i'm aware of . um, have walls , so . um, they have had walls, so we've had ukraine and russia . we've had ukraine and russia. now we've got the situation with israel and um, they would israel and hamas. um, they would argue that they are dealing with argue that they are dealing with a very turbulent time. and i'm not sure that their opposition would have done much better. and do you think that this might be their sort of trump card they're going to play on this? well that's certainly true, isn't it? >> i mean, we had the pandemic that's certainly true, isn't it? >> iwasan, we had the pandemic that's certainly true, isn't it? >> iwas massively the pandemic that's certainly true, isn't it? >> iwas massively expensive,mic that was massively expensive, paying that was massively expensive, paying of people's paying millions of people's wages for month after month through furlough. then, as you say, war in ukraine, supporting people their energy bills, people with their energy bills, etc. um, but the problem is that is all true. that's why they've

had to go on this big spending spree. that's why there's not much money around. we've got a huge debt, ultimately me and huge debt, but ultimately me and probably labour wouldn't have done things differently. but ultimately , voters will tend to ultimately, voters will tend to blame whoever is in charge and it is the fact that taxes are relatively high. people are really feeling the pinch. it's not all the conservatives fault. the conservative would say plenty of conservative voters don't believe it at the moment, but the conservative government would say that they are fundamentally wanting to be low taxes . and it's just that taxes. and it's just that circumstances have made it impossible. but the fact is, taxes are high and likely voters will blame the government for that. >> well, very briefly , because >> well, very briefly, because we've got about a minute left, the labour party. what are they saying they'll do? because it's all very well us pointing our fingers at the conservatives and blaming them, which can blaming them, which we can rightly what of labour blaming them, which we can rightabout what of labour blaming them, which we can rightabout what/hat of labour blaming them, which we can rightabout what they if labour blaming them, which we can rightabout what they willbour blaming them, which we can rightabout what they will do r blaming them, which we can rightabout what they will do ? said about what they will do? have they said anything? >> been pressed on >> well, they've been pressed on whether they cut taxes and whether they would cut taxes and they to doing

they haven't committed to doing so because they've basically said we need get the growth said we need to get the growth first. it looks likely that this cut in national insurance, labour will will continue with that. if the conservative does announce more income tax cuts or unfreeze the threshold, labour will go along with that. they would probably , um, if the would probably, um, if the tories do cut inheritance tax, labour would probably change that. but it's clear that they realise that there's not a lot of money around. they're going to have very difficult decisions. whoever ends up in downing street next downing street this time next year not money. year, there's not much money. there's to difficult there's going to be difficult decisions. yes, under decisions. so yes, tough under the tories. but that doesn't mean things are going to be we're not going to be awash with money under labour either. >> you >> gosh, catherine, thank you very katherine very much. that's katherine forster, gb news political correspondent . right. well, correspondent. right. well, listen, i'm going to turn over to find what yuri is getting on with now because as we look ahead , more fighting in israel ahead, more fighting in israel and gaza, which continues. but it's for the first time since the conflict started, an israeli

minister outlined proposals minister has outlined proposals for a post war gaza. these include hamas being removed from power and israel retaining control over the enclaves security. in the meantime , security. in the meantime, israel has said that it will defend itself at the international court of justice against south africa's claims that it against south africa's claims thatitis against south africa's claims that it is committing genocidal acts in gaza, dismissing the accusations as unfair and biased. well, joining me now to discuss is mr fire, uri geller, who's live in tel aviv. thank you so much. it's good to see you. we've got a clear picture today, which is good. so uri, talk to me. um, about what's been happening there and what the sort of response is towards south africa . the south africa. the >> okay, first of all, thank you again, nana, for inviting me onto your show. but listen, i've got to tell you something, nana i was really angry this week to read that in your country. in the uk, the met police are helping the internet criminal

court investigate israel for possible war crimes. now there are posters. listen to this. there are posters at gatwick airport asking travellers . maybe airport asking travellers. maybe you don't know this. asking travellers who have been to israel in gaza to give evidence to the british police. now this is crazy and it is wrong. i ask the british public, your viewers , what has it got to do with your police force? the police don't even have the time to investigate burglaries. so what are they doing? spending time and money on a pointless investigation in a foreign country? it is totally wrong. and kuwait and completely , and kuwait and completely, completely waste of taxpayers money. borisjohnson, completely waste of taxpayers money. boris johnson, your former prime minister. he said so. and i completely agree with him. um, well, we are all asking the police that very question. >> you're not alone. we're saying why on earth you can't

even. it's 6% of crimes that have been solved here. uri. um, so we are asking them that as well. don't worry. i you know, i don't know why they're doing it. a might a similar question, they might argue they do. argue that they should do. i would argue they need to get back streets and policing back on the streets and policing this . so i'm100% back on the streets and policing this . so i'm 100% with this country. so i'm 100% with you think, the you there, as are i think, the majority british public. majority of the british public. >> like assure you >> i would like to assure you now um, by the way, now something um, by the way, this morning, uh , missiles were this morning, uh, missiles were coming into from the north of israel . coming into from the north of israel. hundreds, hundreds of missiles aimed at kibbutzim that little settlements and towns . little settlements and towns. unbelievable. i was just looking at the phone, seeing the missiles come in. and just yesterday the idf said more of our soldiers are, um, you know, the in the schools in gaza . uh, the in the schools in gaza. uh, it's all hamas. the in the schools in gaza. uh, it's all hamas . hamas weapons. it's all hamas. hamas weapons. uh rpg unbeliever grenades in toys. but this is very interesting. look, they found a puzzle . this is for children . puzzle. this is for children. and on this puzzle, you can see

how the palestinian or hamas children are being brainwashed to kill israeli children in what you can see there. we can't see that. >> describe it for us. well, it's israel. >> okay. here. this is israel. the map of israel. right? this is a pa, okay. and if you see the palestinian children or hamas children are holding knives and they are, um , after knives and they are, um, after killing these little israeli girl. so now this is nana. this is a sad weekend for israel and gaza. >> i find that though what's you know, i hear you, it's a distressing thing. but where did you find that? and what is it you find that? and what is it you it in, you cover it in. you fill it in, you cover it in. is it? >> oh, this was found in a in a school in gaza by idf. i photocopied this. now i'd like to add this. this is a sad weekend for israel and gaza because it is three months since the attack on october the 7th. now for all that time, our hostages have been held in

tunnels deep under gaza . i want tunnels deep under gaza. i want to remind your viewers that there are still 136 hostages there, including . a one year old there, including. a one year old child. his name is kfir bibas, and he just turned one year old in the clutches of hamas. now, there is no doubt that this war is terrible for ordinary palestinians living in gaza. but i must tell you this to your viewers. tell you something about palestinian death toll more than a third of those killed are not civilians, but hamas terrorists. israel and they we do not want palestinians to suffer. and we would stop this war tomorrow if the palestinians if sorry, if the hamas would , uh, release our hamas would, uh, release our hostages . by the way, many hamas would, uh, release our hostages. by the way, many hamas terrorists are not wearing uniforms. they're wearing civilian clothes . one more last civilian clothes. one more last thing. they found where they

found this . they found , you found this. they found, you know, united nation bags with a united nation flag on and inside the bag. they found again hidden weapons, rifles , bombs and weapons, rifles, bombs and grenades and they are using schools. yeah >> i mean, look, it is documented that hamas are using civilian things to try and hide a lot of the things they're doing. it's a very small, though. people might argue that gazais though. people might argue that gaza is so small, though, that where else would they put the stuff? and that's probably why they're tunnelling underneath stuff? and that's probably why thejseigneury..ing underneath stuff? and that's probably why thejseigneury..ing undeiteath stuff? and that's probably why thejseigneury..ing unde it to h the seigneury. we want it to end. it stop. end. we all want it to stop. i wish they'd released the hostages. i wish that the bombardment but bombardment would stop, but it doesn't it will any doesn't look like it will any time soon. uri, thank you so much talking thank much for talking to us. thank you. he's live in tel aviv. thank you so much. as ever. that's brilliant geller. that's the brilliant uri geller. well loads well listen. stay tuned. loads more come . this is gb more still to come. this is gb news. if you're just in, news. if you're just tuned in, it's 18 after three. i'm it's 18 minutes after three. i'm nana akua now coming in nana akua now coming up in political spotlight. i'll be shining a light on whether

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akua. this is a gb news. we are the people's channel and it's now time for climate control, where we discuss the debate around climate change. uh, the conservative mp for kingswood, chris skidmore , has announced chris skidmore, has announced that he's resigning from parliament over the government's plans to grant of new plans to grant hundreds of new licences for oil and gas exploration in north sea . in exploration in the north sea. in his letter of resignation, skidmore , which is an skidmore, which is an interesting name , said that the interesting name, said that the government's policy who send a global signal would send a global signal would send a global signal would send a global signal that the uk is rowing ever further back from its climate commitments and that future generations will judge harshly those who support the legislation . well, let's not legislation. well, let's not worry about the people now and how we feel about it. however, chancellor jeremy how we feel about it. however, chancellorjeremy hunt chancellor jeremy hunt criticised his chancellorjeremy hunt criticised his now former colleague, saying he profoundly disagreed with skidmore's disagreed with chris skidmore's reasons for resigning. so was chris skidmore right to resign ? chris skidmore right to resign? are we hurtling towards a climate disaster , and was the climate disaster, and was the government wrong to roll back on its plans? jim dale , i'll start

its plans? jim dale, i'll start with you. >> that's a lot of questions. >> that's a lot of questions. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> um, except for many, many people in this country , this is people in this country, this is not a good afternoon. >> they're under water and we're talking thousands . talking thousands. >> if not maybe a couple of couple of million. you've seen the pictures it's been leading the pictures it's been leading the news trails over the last several days. >> and that was after or during henk, bought a henk, which obviously bought a wind problem as well. do you know what? >> um, it just continues and continues and we're going to be talking about this all next yeah >> so can i, can i just ask though, so they're all underwater. >> how are they being rescued? is it surely by a boat or something. yeah well and there will be a, there will be a few people who are not in a position to help themselves, who will be rescued boat, be powered i >> -- >> how will lam >> how will it probably for the most part, the powered by oars , actually. >> but some of them will have motors which are filled with what? >> which are filled with, uh, fossil fuel. fossil fuel giving. >> right. so that's it. without

fossil fuels, this would be a problem where people will have to row or you'd rely on an electricity source that probably wouldn't do in the wouldn't do so well in the water. i'm just. >> yeah. i think you will >> yeah. yeah i think you will find vast majority find that the vast majority are being rescued by boat. >> all, that be >> first of all, that will be a small minority. >> will elderly people, >> it will be elderly people, infirm type thing. >> um, which which is you >> um, which is which is you know, but look, i can't know, the way. but look, i can't see people going down these, these streets in power boats or anything.they might i think. >> well, they might i think. >> well, they might i think. >> yes, i can you make it. >> no, no, i think you're making an erroneous point. >> i really do. >> i really do. >> no, not you. >> i really do. >> no,-not you. i'm >> no, i'm not asking you. i'm not asking you whether you think my erroneous. just my point is erroneous. i'm just asking yeah, my point is erroneous. i'm just as course, yeah, my point is erroneous. i'm just as course, because yeah, my point is erroneous. i'm just as course, because the yeah, my point is erroneous. i'm just as course, because the point ah, my point is erroneous. i'm just as course, because the point is, of course, because the point is, we and gas. we need oil and gas. >> answer the question is >> the answer to the question is 90% will probably 90% of it will be probably or. >> it wouldn't. and >> and that's it wouldn't. and you few trees have been you know, a few trees have been knocked make knocked down to, to, to make those past. that's, those oils in the past. that's, that's where but as i that's where we are. but as i say, the main thing is there's, there's floods going on there's massive floods going on in at this moment in this country at this moment in this country at this moment in had in time, since 1836, we've had a 27% increase in the amount of rainfall that has fallen on this country. england. i'm talking

about now , not scotland, wales about now, not scotland, wales in ireland, but that's huge . in ireland, but 27. that's huge. >> that's absolutely huge. >> that's absolutely huge. >> so you're saying that that is what saying , that because of what i'm saying, that because of the atmosphere that the heat in the atmosphere that thatis the heat in the atmosphere that that is part of the equation of the atmosphere warming up. >> so holds more so >> so it holds more water. so when a coming along when we get a storm coming along or storms along, you or two storms come along, you get rainfall and there are get more rainfall and there are people got floods today people who have got floods today who've them before. who've never seen them before. >> so you're attributing this to climate change, even though even though last time you told me that climate change is assessed over period, a long period of over a period, a long period of time, and this is just one you've attributed. no, you've already attributed. no, no, climate. no, no, no climate. >> and then the events that follow are two follow from climate are two different matters. >> don't time , as >> but don't you take time, as you should be over you said, it should be over a penod you said, it should be over a period time? period of time? >> burgess, paul burgess, >> paul burgess, paul burgess, could up my slide one? could i call up my slide one? um, can we have paul's paul's slide number one? >> going to debunk very >> i'm just going to debunk very fast few things . fast a few of these things. >> oh, did you have a. yeah, i've got, yeah i thought i was providing the evidence today. >> you just made, you've just >> no you just made, you've just made a we're going to waste time arguing. >> we ended last week by you

saying what's not true about arctic sea ice, arctic ice, arctic sea ice, arctic sea ice, highest is what it shows. >> this is what it shows. >> this is what it shows. >> that graph is that >> all that graph is, is that since 2009, every year is plotted on from january to december. can see how close december. you can see how close they are. but as it happens, the table right gives all the table on the right gives all the things. the levels are the things. all the levels are the 27th which is when 27th of december, which is when i it's the i took this data, and it's the highest level since 2000. >> this is about arctic ice. that's arctic but that's about arctic ice. but what about me? >> i'm going on. >> i'm going straight on. >> i'm going straight on. >> hold hold on. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. one second, second. okay one second, one second. okay okay. hang on. no, no, i'll okay. hang on. no no, no, i'll tell you when you're coming in. uh, coming to uh, right now, i'm coming to you. do you have you. jim. what do you have a sude? you. jim. what do you have a slide? what is your slide referring to? well, there are several. respond several. if you could respond to what saying, i'll just what yours are saying, i'll just very respond. what yours are saying, i'll just vehthat respond. what yours are saying, i'll just vehthat cloudond. what yours are saying, i'll just vehthat cloud cuckoo land. >> that is cloud cuckoo land. the is falling and the arctic ice is falling and reducing year on year on year. and i don't you know, i've got no chart to show that but but look paul, well what have you got is erroneous. >> well if the producers. >> well if the producers. >> well if the producers. >> well you tell me what it is and i'll ask it. i can't see and i'll ask for it. i can't see the first one would co2 and the first one would be co2 and methane right. so these methane levels. right. so these are reasons are where are the reasons why we are where

we are , that we've got fossil we are, that we've got fossil fuels into atmosphere fuels going into the atmosphere where they reached an where they have reached an absolute peak. >> peak absolute peak. >> they continue to peak. >> they continue to peak. >> uh, that's that's the reason why. >> which side do you want? >> which side do you want? >> it's the first slide. >> it's the first slide. >> can we have jim's first slide. slide number one. there we what's that showing we go. so what's that showing us. you co2 and us. that's showing you co2 and methane levels. >> have gone >> emissions that have gone since uh well since a long time ago. >> i can't quite read it. >> i can't quite read it. >> there's bit on the end >> so there's a bit on the end that of. that sort of. >> can see the peak. >> you can see the peak. >> you can see the peak. >> just, you know, it's >> it's just, you know, it's just obvious you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what's going on. >> far as. and what are you >> as far as. and what are you going to think of nana? >> the reason why we're >> this is the reason why we're in trouble. it's a very simple thing. the greenhouse. >> burgess , he >> come to paul paul burgess, he says this is the reason why says that this is the reason why we're in trouble. >> of the slide, it >> the end of the slide, it doesn't stays doesn't dip down. it just stays in line. in a straight line. >> going hundreds >> this is going back hundreds of thousands of years. that graph, graph. graph, it's a well known graph. the came. yes and the the ice ages came. yes and the c02 the ice ages came. yes and the co2 rose afterwards. >> other words, when the >> so in other words, when the when the ice ages come, they they, they suck in co2. >> when they away , they, they >> when they go away, they, they give and the co2 follows

give off co2 and the co2 follows the warming by 6 to 800 years. fact right. that's that one. now i can counter this. i go on to your next graph . by all means, your next graph. by all means, go on then. >> jim, number think is >> jim, number two i think is the temperature profile graph. >> mean temperature >> uh, global mean temperature differences 1850 to 1900. that's the measurement . the measurement. >> where is your source? there are if you look on the screen, tell me what not the one actually there is one, two, three, four, five, six sources. >> um, this is the wrong and this has been put out by the met office. >> by the way, this one here. >> by the way, this one here. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> this is the so people >> this is the ones so people can read. won't go through all can read. i won't go through all six what six sources in terms of what they but all there. they are, but they're all there. by they are, but they're all there. by we're not mentioning by the way, we're not mentioning noaa these, noaa or nasa even on these, but these established. these are all established. and if the very top, if you look at the very top, it's met office released graph. >> and once again, this is the this global temperature here. >> okay. uh, average across across, uh , the world obviously. across, uh, the world obviously. and again you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see exactly what's going on. look at the right hand side. look at the peaks. >> so the temperature this is

for the people on radio, for the people on radio. the it's a it's a rising, uh, line that has dips and peaks, but it's basically the trajectory is upwards. paul burgess it looks like a mountain. can we. no, no, no . mountain. can we. no, no, no. can you respond to the slide that's the screen? that's on the screen? >> i'm just going to respond. >> i'm just going to respond. >> the mean >> so the global mean temperature he says no no no slide. your response slide. so your response temperatures is what i'm responding so paul responding to okay. so paul burgess four. burgess it's slide four. >> are. now if you go >> there we are. now if you go back does it say . this back to what does it say. this is back to 1920. now what is going back to 1920. now what they do is they don't take the observed temperatures to produce his what they do, they his graph. what they do, they observe temperatures there in blue mine. what they do is blue on mine. what they do is they from the past and they deduct from the past and add to the current. this is the chart here, by the way . this add to the current. this is the chart here, by the way. this is the chart of blue is how they deduct. sorry. got it. this way . deduct. sorry. got it. this way. around the is how they around the blue is how they deduct the past. add to the deduct the past. they add to the future. finish . future. let me finish. >> sorry to interrupt. >> sorry to interrupt. >> this this what they >> so this is this is what they actually measured is blue. now the shows the hot 1930s. the blue shows the hot 1930s. >> what can i just say. this is all very well. there are people listening on radio who not

listening on radio who do not have the benefit of these graphics. would and you graphics. so would you. and you can as because can keep quiet as well, because you're would you're just as guilty. would you describe what is on slide? describe what is on the slide? >> what's slide is the >> what's on the slide is the measured temperatures going back to right. and right to 1920. right, right. and right up to today. and those measured temperatures show the 1930s were much hotter than today . right? much hotter than today. right? right. shows up to right. it also shows right up to today. what it also shows as today. now what it also shows as a graph underneath is what they get reported on jim's graph . and get reported on jim's graph. and what they've done is they've lowered temperatures lowered the past temperatures and increased the and they've increased the current temperatures. and it's called ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad , ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad , it's ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad , it's so ization. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad , it's so bad tion. and current temperatures. and it's callso bad , it's so bad that and it's so bad, it's so bad that this year they issued a graph of the world with the hottest hot africa saying the congo is the hottest it's ever been , blah hottest it's ever been, blah blah, blah. on based on what temperature station in an airport again and which was next to an area population bigger than new york. jim dale paul, you're a nice fella , and i'm you're a nice fella, and i'm sure you believe let's not make it personal now. >> no, i'm not making it. >> no, i'm not making it. >> i'm just saying the information you is information that you give in is delusional. it's as simple. >> has the same graph as you.

>> he has the same graph as you. no, you both came no, no, no, you both came in. no, no, no, you both came in. no, same graph. no, no. same graph. >> we're talking about graph >> we're talking about the graph he's mentioned screen. he's just mentioned on screen. okay >> w— @ graph, jim. jim jim, >> not your graph, jim. jim jim, i knew you were going to do that i >> -- >> it's my 5mm km 5mm >> it's my turn. it's not answered. why why why the graph on this side in terms of the temperature profile we've just gone hottest weather gone through the hottest weather irrespective of whether you don't do, whether that's one yeah don't do, whether that's one year, matter. year, one day doesn't matter. >> talk a 125,000 years or >> we talk a 125,000 years or i don't care about 125,000 years. >> i care about the last ten. to be honest with you. and it is like the face of the eigen. if you can't see the records that are being broken left, right and centre and reported centre from and being reported by institutions that are not some crummy guy who died 50 years ago when he reported some of the things from the ipcc. >> you've just debunked them, by the way, on the graph, on on the graph number. >> uh, two, slide two, please . >> uh, two, slide two, please. slide two, you've got about 21. >> it is. >> it is. >> pop that up on slide two. what we've got is the opening coming up . coming up. >> this is uh, can we have, um,

paul burgess slide two i think we've got jim dale's one up there. you've got jim dale. >> definitely mine. >> that's definitely not mine. i wouldn't that a wouldn't ever put that up in a million years. well hold on, it's not mine. million years. well hold on, it's well,1ine. million years. well hold on, it's well, let's let's let's just. >> well, let's let's let's just. i'll you can ignore i'll tell you what can we ignore the right. it's the slides? all right. it's the second no, is mine. sorry. it >> oh, no, it is mine. sorry. it was sorry. i'm sorry was mine. sorry. i'm sorry about that. was mine. sorry. i'm sorry about that . couldn't see on the that. i couldn't see it on the distance. shows is more distance. what? it shows is more storms 1980 1990 than storms between 1980 1990 than the 20 years. more storms . the last 20 years. more storms. and by the way, the met office report this last year, the annual report. quoting annual report. and i'm quoting and i give references, as always and i give references, as always and but even so, and it ends up. but even so, these storms of the 1980s and 1990s were much more severe than in the last 20 years. that is a quote from the go and say that to the people who've been flooded out in the towns and cities, emotional. flooded out in the towns and citiionemotional. flooded out in the towns and citiione second.l. flooded out in the towns and citiione second. i'll you >> one second. i'll tell you what, one second up, you what, one second strung up, you can well that can all very well say that to the people who've flooded the people who've been flooded in towns and cities. the people who've been flooded in tbuts and cities. the people who've been flooded in tbut that'scities. the people who've been flooded in tbut that's not,;. the people who've been flooded in tbut that's not, as you said, >> but that's not, as you said, a view, is it? that's a long time view, is it? that's just now . no, no, that's just people now. no, no, that's just people now. that's just people no, no, people now if you're. no, no, no, should go no, you're saying he should go and them. saying no, you're saying he should go and just them. saying no, you're saying he should go and just people]. saying no, you're saying he should go and just people now. saying no, you're saying he should go and just people now. that's| no, you're saying he should go and people people now. that's| no, you're saying he should go and people that's now. that's| no, you're saying he should go and people that's not v. that's| no, you're saying he should go and people that's not looking | not people that's not looking at the graph any people

the overall graph or any people have flooded more than one have been flooded more than one time. this is the >> and this is this is on the can climate change. can of climate change. >> jim, would you listen? >> jim, would you listen? >> we listen. we're running out of out of time. we're running out of time. course, dale, time. uh of course, jim dale, meteorologist and social commentator, burgess, commentator, and paul burgess, climate scientist . nothing is climate scientist. nothing is resolved ever . climate scientist. nothing is resolved ever. right. this is gb news on tv , online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll we'll discuss weather man bergdorf, who was born a man , bergdorf, who was born a man, can truly be representative of women after being appointed a role as a un women uk's champion and our difficult conversation, i'll be doing that later. but first, let's get your headlines . first, let's get your headlines. >> good afternoon. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom. >> the headlines at 330 for hundreds of pro—palestinian protesters have staged a sit down in central london, blocking the road in front of westminster bridge . bridge. >> it's part of the free palestine coalition march, as several protest groups demand a ceasefire in gaza. police have

attempted to break up the demonstration in saint james's park and earlier seized the group's sound equipment . we group's sound equipment. we understand the protesters are dispersing and is open to dispersing and is back open to traffic . more flooding is traffic. more flooding is expected to hit parts of the midlands, lincolnshire and the river weekend the river thames this weekend as the wet weather continues. the new warnings come as temperatures in the uk are to plummet. the uk are set to plummet. hundreds of flood alerts remain in place england and in place across england and wales, with exceptionally high and in cases record. river and in some cases record. river levels. gb news east midlands reporter will hollis has this update . update. >> the latest that we're hearing from newark and sherwood district council and the multi—agency response, which includes fire and rescue service and the environment agency, is that the concern now is further north in the county to torksey gorge, where a number of places around that side of the river trent are expected to see rising water levels and flooding . water levels and flooding. >> a 16 year old boy has been remanded in custody charged with

murdering harry pitman on new year's eve . the teenager died year's eve. the teenager died after being stabbed in primrose hill in london as crowds gathered to watch the fireworks. the suspect, who can't be named , the suspect, who can't be named, is appearin the suspect, who can't be named, is appear in court next is due to appear in court next week . he's is due to appear in court next week. he's also been is due to appear in court next week . he's also been charged week. he's also been charged with possessing offensive week. he's also been charged with pos harry's offensive week. he's also been charged with pos harry's sisterensive week. he's also been charged with pos harry's sister hasve week. he's also been charged with pos harry's sister has paid weapon. harry's sister has paid tribute to him, saying he had a heart of gold and wouldn't be involved violence . and you involved in violence. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. gbillionews.com. >> so much paper from those two. honestly it's ridiculous right ? honestly it's ridiculous right? it's just coming up to 37 minutes after 3:00. coming up, my political spotlights. uh, i'll be discussing munroe bergdorf. can she truly represent women ? uh, but yeah, represent women? uh, but yeah, that's up

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . well . come news. well. come back if you're just tuned in. >> where have you been? i know i've been a bit of an angry mood today, i though it's today, haven't i though it's just gone minutes 3:00. just gone 40 minutes after 3:00. this the this is gb news we are the people's i'm nana akua. people's channel. i'm nana akua. and don't forget, if you miss anything you anything on the programme or you want , download want to watch it later, download the news app. it's totally the gb news app. it's totally free find all the free and you can find all the programmes we're live programmes there. but we're live and much to do and we've got so much to do because now this because it's time now for this week's spotlight . so week's political spotlight. so joining me to shine a light is olly london a woman olly london after a trans woman has sparked concern among

women's groups after she women's rights groups after she was picked by the un as its uk champion? yes, we're discussing munroe bergdorf . so olly london munroe bergdorf. so olly london joins me now . olly he's live in joins me now. olly he's live in here but we're going to speak to a few others about it . olly what a few others about it. olly what do you think of this now? there are millions of women that could have that job and i would have done that job and i would argue that that is a job specifically for women. if you're an advocating for women, then why do you think they've done this? well it's a complete insuh done this? well it's a complete insult women. insult to women. >> said, munroe >> and like you said, munroe bergdorf named the uk bergdorf has been named the uk champion and for girls. >> and, you know, there are millions of fantastic women in this country that would make a great look great role model. i mean, look at someone like princess kate middleton. >> epitome of what it >> she is the epitome of what it means know, be means to be, you know, be helping young girls means to be, you know, be help stuff. young girls and stuff. >> w- and stuff. >> like that would >> somebody like that would be a fantastic ambassador. so it really is a slap in the face to women. >> we've seen the un pushing a lot of trans messaging during international month international women's month earlier last year. we see obviously un women being obviously the un women being very silent on the situation

with the female victims of october seventh in israel. you know, it took them 54 days to comment. it's really become comment. so it's really become a very obsolete organisation . and very obsolete organisation. and i think they should rename it. you the agency men you know, the un agency for men that identify as women, because in many ways it's a bit frightening, if i'm honest . frightening, if i'm honest. >> i find that this is me personally . i've never met personally. i've never met monroe. i'm sure monroe is very , monroe. i'm sure monroe is very, very nice, but i find it quite intimidating. i have had trans women say to me, oh well, i never get anybody saying anything when i'm using a woman's toilet or anything. no one ever says anything. and i think to myself, that's because you're six we know you're you're six foot. we know you're a man and not going to a man and we're not going to argue you . there's lot argue with you. there's a lot of that, think women are that, a lot. i think women are actually and quite actually intimidated and quite scared. actually intimidated and quite sca and know , when you've got >> and you know, when you've got somebody that's trying to represent young girls and women and country, and help them in this country, you that may and help them in this country, you experienced that may and help them in this country, you experienced domestic may have experienced domestic violence or sexual assault, you need a woman to be doing that role. so that girl or that young woman feels comfortable. >> ridiculous. woman feels comfortable. >> alsoiiculous. woman feels comfortable. >> also this ous.

woman feels comfortable. >> also this particular >> and also this particular ambassador, munroe bergdorf, has >> and also this particular a|very sador, munroe bergdorf, has >> and also this particular a|very bad r, munroe bergdorf, has >> and also this particular a|very bad tracknroe bergdorf, has >> and also this particular a|very bad track recordzrgdorf, has >> and also this particular a|very bad track record in dorf, has >> and also this particular a|very bad track record in terms as a very bad track record in terms of racism . of racism. >> and, uh, they actually called the suffragette movement, which we the why we all know is the reason why women in this women have rights in this country. they can vote. they actually out white actually called out the white supremacist movement. and, you know, their job as a know, they lost their job as a l'oreal in 2017 l'oreal ambassador in 2017 because racist because of their racist comments. and they were also the lgbt policy on the advisory board for labour picture with jeremy corbyn. they lost that job after nine days. so this is a person that has a very bad track record of anything. you know, they've stoke racism, they've tensions, they're , they've stoke tensions, they're, you know, posting all about the, um, palestinian thing right now and a lot of it's kind of very pro, you know, when they're terrorists were arrested, they were these were saying, oh, these are innocent civilians. so i think, you know , you choose you know, you could choose any ambassador, they ambassador, anyone. and they would do better job ambassador, anyone. and they would do betterjob than this would do a betterjob than this person. that's it. person. well that's it. >> i'm not saying that >> and i'm not saying that trans people that. people are scary and all that. i'm at all. i'm i'm not saying that at all. i'm just that for me, this just saying that for me, this particular character to feels just saying that for me, this pwould ar character to feels just saying that for me, this pwould be.1aracter to feels just saying that for me, this pwould be. i|racter to feels just saying that for me, this pwould be. i feelzr to feels just saying that for me, this pwould be. i feel intimidated.s i would be. i feel intimidated by this person specifically. i've never met them, though they

might feel intimidated by me. that's enough . but might feel intimidated by me. that's enough. but i'm that's fair enough. but i'm saying, the of saying, you know, the sort of psychology that goes into like a woman's someone's mind woman's mind or someone's mind when feel in a sense, when you feel that in a sense, it feels like we're being it almost feels like we're being impersonated. that's how i feel about but joined now by about it. but i'm joined now by diversity and inclusion facilitator katie john went and tv media psychologist doctor arthur cassidy. now arthur, thank you so much for joining me. and also you kc i'm going to come to you, arthur, because i've talked the sort come to you, arthur, because i'vpsychological the sort come to you, arthur, because i'vpsychological psycho e sort come to you, arthur, because i'vpsychological psycho energy of psychological psycho energy that goes into this because it's not just a one sided thing. i know they say trans people are vulnerable, but so are women. are so can you shed some light on the sort of psychology around all ? all of this? >> because of course it is. >> because of course it is. >> and i think we have to really admit the fact that we are still learning. so much scientifically about the nature of identity exploration in the female brain, as well as the male brain, especially since the whole, uh, phenomena of transgenderism came around . and so it is it's a

around. and so it is it's a matter of great concern, i think, to psychologists working and also to psychiatrists working in transgender clinics. you know, how do we help these people to explore their identity? because i can't tell you that in my own health psychology clinic, i have had two people in the past few years who have been presenting with, uh, suicidal ideation and treatment because they simply can't , can't find a way through can't, can't find a way through the waiting lists. and, and this is another added feature outside the fact of, you know, of who is it that's being empowered because when we look at the vulnerability of the human brain, we are talking about the power of social media and the power of social media and the power of social influence. your people are searching for what is the most appropriate pathway through life to search for my identity development. and i work quite a lot with females in my clinic . i work a lot with those clinic. i work a lot with those who are hurting and those who are breaking because of not just so much trans , but also just

so much trans, but also just searching for the most appropriate female biologically female identity. yeah, yeah . female identity. yeah, yeah. >> can i katie . um, now, of >> can i katie. um, now, of course. katie, you are diversity and inclusion facilitator . um, and inclusion facilitator. um, katie, what do you think about this? because you're also trans , this? because you're also trans, right? so what what are your thoughts on this ? thoughts on this? >> well, i'm trans , but when >> well, i'm trans, but when people ask me to introduce myself, i usually say, i'm katie, trans person. katie, i'm a trans person. >> i'm, you know, i've got to a stage of my life, including going through going kind of through my transition where i'm actually just comfortable being a human transition where i'm actually just coand table being a human transition where i'm actually just coand tébelieveig a human transition where i'm actually just coand tébelieveig kind nan transition where i'm actually just coand tébelieveig kind ofn being. and i believe in kind of the human rights of freedom of expression. i don't feel like expression. so i don't feel like i'm else's i'm taking anyone else's identity or space, which is why i think that, you know, the un women thing, they they missed a trick here. they trick here. what they should have is probably got have done is probably got someone woman to be a someone who was a woman to be a champion for women and then got munroe someone munroe bergdorf or someone else to champion trans to be a champion for trans because, know, recognising because, you know, recognising that there are men, there are women, and there are people who find it uncomfortable being either binary opposite either. and the binary opposite isn't always the solution. um and yeah, ask anyone involved in

therapy, psychology, psychiatry. there are people on their journeys it's it takes time journeys that it's it takes time to discover that. and the identity isn't always the answer. the journey is more the solution than than the actual answer. because the journey is discovering yourself and finding how to and be comfortable how to live and be comfortable in world. munroe has found in this world. munroe has found their path in this world, and they someone who they clearly are someone who would seen as a woman would like to be seen as a woman and that sense, being offered and in that sense, being offered the of un champion for the job of un champion for women. they're going to women. yeah they're going to leap wow, i feel leap at it and say, wow, i feel affirmed. isn't affirmed. but it isn't about munroe . it's about the women munroe. it's about the women they meant be championing they are meant to be championing and representing. that's why and representing. so that's why i we're i would have said, hey, we're announcing champion announcing munroe as a champion for and we're announcing for trans, and we're announcing i kate i probably wouldn't go with kate middleton. i don't think she's particularly representative of middleton. i don't think she's particuleitherpresentative of middleton. i don't think she's particuleither is, sentative of middleton. i don't think she's particuleither is, you ative of middleton. i don't think she's particuleither is, you know,f women either is, you know, adding, a royal in that adding, making a royal in that role is not very universal. well, and given that what the un's role in temps meant to be doing is ending gender based violence, of female violence, ending kind of female genital mutilation , um, kind of genital mutilation, um, kind of ending trafficking, those things are royal is going to have less kind of, um, openness and

awareness of getting someone in that role who could truly have represented far more women with them in the better option here. but that's not a trans people. you make a trans role as well. >> in addition, see, that's the point . if you there, >> in addition, see, that's the point. if you there, i'm point. if you stay there, i'm going bring london back going to bring ollie london back into i mean, katie into there. i mean, like katie has it perfectly has made it perfectly valid point. not? somebody point. why not? as somebody who represents people and i represents trans people and i agree with the word trans people , not necessarily women or , not necessarily trans women or trans , because it's actually trans men, because it's actually quite confusing . why? why do quite confusing. why? why not do that quite confusing. why? why not do tha well, exactly. not make >> well, exactly. why not make another for lgbt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou for lgbt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou know, for lgbt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou know, why lgbt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou know, why isibt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou know, why is itt people? >> well, exactly. why not make anoyou know, why is it always e? >> you know, why is it always the agencies are the women's agencies that are having agenda pushed having this trans agenda pushed on them when it's affecting them the know, it . a man the most? you know, it. a man cannot represent women . they cannot represent women. they cannot represent women. they cannot represent women. they cannot represent little girls. it's very offensive to have that. so, you know, katie makes a great point. not just have a great point. why not just have your agency that's your own agency that's specialising um specialising in the lgbt and, um , again, munroe has , again, munroe bergdorf has beenin , again, munroe bergdorf has been in this role since november. they've . said they've november. they've. said they've worked with the un since 2018, but i haven't seen them doing anything for women. you know, i

see posts about, uh, see a lot of posts about, uh, you know, palestine, gaza, queers palestine. queers for palestine. and i'm thinking, aren't queers for palestine. and i'm thin speaking aren't queers for palestine. and i'm thin speaking about aren't queers for palestine. and i'm thin speaking about the aren't queers for palestine. and i'm thin speaking about the women you speaking about the women that hostage ? no that are held hostage? no mention of that. why aren't you speaking women mention of that. why aren't you speegirls women mention of that. why aren't you speegirls in women mention of that. why aren't you speegirls in this women mention of that. why aren't you speegirls in this country women mention of that. why aren't you speegirls in this country thatomen and girls in this country that may underprivileged? may be underprivileged? they may not be get hot school not be able to get hot school meals. they be subject to meals. they may be subject to domestic abuse. you know, i haven't action. haven't seen them do action. i think with people like munroe bergdorf, it's clear they enjoy this media attention. they had a fight with cheryl cole a few years ago on twitter and stuff. they to, know , bring they tried to, you know, bring her some argument. her into some argument. and i just are not just think that they are not a good role model for anyone. so yeah, as katie said, have a separate this separate agency. great. but this is it's meant to be is un women. it's meant to be fighting for women the fighting for women like the women attacked women in congo that are attacked daily. the women that daily. the women in sudan that are attacked , the are being attacked, the christians that are being attacked that is attacked in nigeria, that is theirjob. so their job is not theirjob. so theirjob is not to be pushing, you know, a biological male into women's issues. >> ea“ fi- >> well, the job is not about them, it? and that's what them, is it? and that's what this like. about this feels like. it's about munroe bergdorf. not about munroe bergdorf. it's not about what the un are doing for what the un women are doing for women. i it could you women. and i it could you imagine if it was for men? so

could you imagine if a trans man decided or was given the role to represent men in. do you think that would go down well , he that would go down well, he wouldn't have it, would they? >> it wouldn't go down well. but we do we? we don't really see that, do we? >> mean, like with sports >> i mean, it's like with sports you see a female that's you don't see a female that's transitioned into, transitioned to male going into, you , the men's sports. you you know, the men's sports. you just don't see that. it just doesn't happen. all of these cases seem to be biological males that are going into women's spaces, sports, women's spaces, women's sports, the stuff . we're women's spaces, women's sports, the seeing stuff . we're women's spaces, women's sports, the seeing that. stuff . we're women's spaces, women's sports, the seeing that. and stuff . we're women's spaces, women's sports, the seeing that. and offf . we're women's spaces, women's sports, the seeing that. and of course re not seeing that. and of course there be outrage there would be outrage and i don't men put up don't think men would put up with that. no, i don't i don't think they would. >> well they didn't, they didn't i don't think they well nobody said much when there was a female there. they female referee there. but they complained a lot of men complained when a woman was commentating football . commentating on men's football. they weren't having it because they said, don't want to they said, we don't want to listen telling us they said, we don't want to listerand telling us they said, we don't want to listerand it telling us they said, we don't want to listerand it was telling us they said, we don't want to listerand it was almost,g us they said, we don't want to listerand it was almost, you that. and it was almost, you know, hear fine. know, and i hear them, fine. that's fine. it's all about that. but let's bring in the others as well, because i want to out. um, um, what do you to find out. um, um, what do you think katie? you think think i'm katie? do you think that they would have had a man

on so a trans man representing how do you think that would have gone down? well, with men if a trans man was representing men for the uk? un there might have been potentially . been potentially. >> there might have been a similar reaction, although most of the argument in this in the trans . gender of the argument in this in the trans. gender kind of of the argument in this in the trans . gender kind of politic trans. gender kind of politic space, the culture wars around this right now are about trans women being a danger and then the young women who are identifying as men , um, them identifying as men, um, them being a danger to themselves in that sense, rather than being a danger to others. so we are playing into the kind of the stereotypes of all men are dangerous. and even if they transition, they're still dangerous, that kind of thing . dangerous, that kind of thing. um, but i go back to my previous point. still to me, point. it's still very to me, it's um, have it's quite simple. um, have a women's representative, have a men's representative, have a trans representative, and even as ollie was saying, though, i actually don't think having an lgbt representative and again, in climate would lgbt representative and again, in been climate would lgbt representative and again, in been a climate would lgbt representative and again, in been a solutione would lgbt representative and again, in been a solution because lgb

have been a solution because lgb versus t are at each other's throats. okay, mind cities in each , but there are lgb that each um, but there are lgb that want to separate. remember want to be separate. i remember 20 years ago transgender people didn't want to be added to lgbt. we have now been and it has helped ground in helped us gain certain ground in society. times society. but there are times to recognise sexuality, gender recognise that sexuality, gender and separate and sex are three separate things sometimes things and sometimes they overlap and you need distinct voices each voices for each. >> i come back to arthur on >> can i come back to arthur on this? arthur, um, this? uh, briefly. arthur, um, as you think it's always as why do you think it's always this way around. it's always an infringement women's infringement onto women's rights and , never seemingly the and never, never seemingly the other around . other way around. >> think we have to be very >> i think we have to be very cautious and very respectful to the role of women, how they are changing the. i see a lot of young teenagers who are waiting to see camhs, for example, and they can't see camhs and these young women just going through struggling with puberty. wait sometimes in a suicidal crisis because of the waiting list, they're trying. they're exploring really ? what is the exploring really? what is the woman going to be like that i might become ? and i was too many might become? and i was too many opfions might become? and i was too many options available. and also the

opfions options available. and also the options are presenting themselves concurrently , day themselves concurrently, day after day, week after week to young people who are highly vulnerable. so they're searching to should i be trans? to find out should i be trans? should i be normal? what is normal anymore? so what we base our authority on what we base, our authority on what we base, our trustworthiness on, what we base, our knowledge of femininity on. and so young people that i see regularly and psychologists and psychiatrists, these young people just are searching for truth. they're searching for truth. they're searching for truth. they're searching for the truth . of what searching for the truth. of what it might be for me to be a biological female and to live appropriately in that way. >> yeah. finally ollie, >> yeah. finally to you, ollie, does like. because does it not feel like. because ultimately, to be a biological woman is, you know, is actual woman is, you know, is an actual fact, be a woman in this fact, but to be a woman in this is almost a stereotype of what a woman feels like woman is. it feels like a caricature. you've got about 20s ollie caricature. you've got about 20s olliwell, caricature. you've got about 20s olliwell, a lot of that, >> well, we see a lot of that, don't we people like don't we? we see people like dylan parody dylan mulvaney that parody and caricature women do caricature of women and women do get offensive to it. you know, it's a time called woman face. you know, it's like you're almost woman almost impersonating woman and mocking and

mocking them as a joke. and i think that's one of the main reasons women feel uncomfortable. and of course, there katie that there are people like katie that just trans and they're just just are trans and they're just living are living their lives. but we are seeing people seeing this rise in people that are mocking women. are simply mocking women. >> well, listen, thank you so much london. doctor much, ollie london. also, doctor arthur cassidy and also katie john went, thank you for your thoughts. well was thoughts. well that was political stay political spotlight. stay tuned. my political spotlight. stay tuned. my are back and i my panellists are back and i have a monologue carol have a monologue about carol vorderman . vorderman. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers . sponsors of up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. it is looking largely dry as high pressure builds in, but we will see frost andice builds in, but we will see frost and ice and fog at night—time and ice and fog at night—time and temperatures falling well below we can see on below freezing. we can see on the pressure pattern high pressure the the pressure pattern high presof'e the the pressure pattern high presof'e weekend the the pressure pattern high presof'e weekend into the; rest of the weekend into the beginning of next week. keen easterly breeze developing across southern counties later for now into the evening time. still a west split. cloudier skies towards eastern england .

skies towards eastern england. some wintry showers for northeast england for a time. two rain also affecting shetland but elsewhere and but clearing skies elsewhere and with heavy rain we'll see with recent heavy rain we'll see some icy stretches developing , some icy stretches developing, particularly across the north and the west. mist and the west. some mist and fog patches temperatures patches too, as temperatures drop freezing. drop below freezing. just staying a little bit above where we keep a bit more cloud into sunday morning. but a bright start for many cold. that fog slow to clear across parts of northern ireland into scotland, but plenty of sunshine here by the most places dry the afternoon. most places dry breeze increasing as we move through afternoon across through the afternoon across southeast england. here we could see 1 or 2 wintry showers and also across the pennines we could see and the north york moors could see 1 or 2 wintry moors we could see 1 or 2 wintry showers, temperatures the showers, temperatures on the cold 4 to celsius for cold side, 4 to 5 celsius for many into the beginning of next week. again. frost and week. very cold again. frost and fog and ice to start the day. most places dry, but that easterly wind increase as we move through the day . in the move through the day. in the next few days it stays very similar. high pressure keeping it dry, but on the cold side .

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river trent are expected to see rising water levels and flooding . as a 16 year old boy has been remanded in custody charged with the murder of harry pitman, who was stabbed in london on new year's eve. >> the teenager died following what police say was an altercation in as crowds gathered on primrose hill to watch fireworks. his sister watch the fireworks. his sister has described harry as a good boy with a heart of gold. the suspect, who can't be named, has also with also been charged with possessing weapon . possessing an offensive weapon. in prince andrew had daily massages during during weeks that he spent at jeffrey epstein's home in florida. that's according to the convicted paedophiles housekeeper. newly released court documents include her testimony 2009, which says testimony from 2009, which says the prince and his then wife, sarah, duchess of york, were friends with epstein and the now convicted sex trafficker ghislaine maxwell. the unsealed files were part of a civil lawsuit against maxwell, who is serving a 20 year prison sentence recruiting underage sentence for recruiting underage girls for epstein . prince andrew girls for epstein. prince andrew strongly denies any wrongdoing .

strongly denies any wrongdoing. the chancellor in the uk says that he's not sure if the government can afford to offer voters any more tax cuts before the next election , in a 2% the next election, in a 2% reduction in national insurance that comes into force today, which jeremy hunt claims will benefit 27 million people and save , save the average family. save, save the average family. with two earners, nearly £1,000 a year. however, the government has frozen the income tax threshold , pushing many into threshold, pushing many into higher brackets which offsets the benefit from the national insurance cut. the chancellor admits further cuts are unlikely i >> -- >> it was lam >> it was right to support families through covid and through the cost of living crisis. and yes, taxes had to go up in that period . but we are up in that period. but we are a conservative government that wants to bring down taxes because we recognise that families are finding life really tough . it's the start of a tough. it's the start of a process as chancellor, if i can afford to go further, i will. i don't yet know if i can, but we

want to do this because it helps families and it also helps to grow the economy . grow the economy. >> russia has used north korean ballistic missiles in ukraine for the first time. that's according to an independent weapons expert the united states has described it as a significant and concerning escalation in the cooperation between the two countries. dutch researcher joost olympians, who was among those to examine the debris, says russia is violating international law . international law. >> russia should be adhering to the sanctions on north korea . the sanctions on north korea. uh, even more so when it's in the case of, uh, highly significant type of weapons system like this, uh, short range ballistic missile systems that we're now seeing . so that's that we're now seeing. so that's a really a very gross violation. uh it's just that there's no , uh it's just that there's no, uh, physical mechanism in place to, uh, prevent russia from importing , to, uh, prevent russia from importing, uh, to, uh, prevent russia from importing , uh, clandestinely, importing, uh, clandestinely, even, even very obviously, clandestinely importing, uh, weapons systems if they choose to do so , almost 700 afghans

to do so, almost 700 afghans that were promised sanctuary here in the uk still haven't been relocated. >> two thirds of those that were eligible who supported british efforts during the war are yet to be resettled . that's more to be resettled. that's more than two years after the taliban's takeover. some 1500 are still stuck in third countries like iran and pakistan. the foreign secretary david cameron, though, says that plans are in place to bring those refugees to the uk, but that it's difficult to predict how quickly people in afghanistan can be brought to safety and alaska airlines has grounded all boeing. three seven max nine aircraft after a window and part of the fuselage blew out of a plane mid—air. the plane was forced into an emergency landing shortly after taking off from the us state of oregon . on social media, footage oregon. on social media, footage showed a large hole in the plane where the emergency exit had previously been. 177 people were on board. no one was hurt. an investigation has been launched .

investigation has been launched. this is gb news. we're across the uk on tv in your car, digital radio and on your smart speakeh digital radio and on your smart speaker. now though. more from . nana. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. last week i was a panellist on patrick christys show. we were discussing carol vorderman and her online spat with johnny mercer. now it was a very balanced discussion , but very balanced discussion, but this is what was clipped and went viral . went viral. >> the pardon by her and look on one hand she's got all that stuff. you know, she's a serious political commentator. and then if instagram, if you look at her instagram, it's pictures her bums if you look at her instagram, it's her)ictures her bums if you look at her instagram, it's her boobs. her bums and her boobs. >> it? what is it >> so what is it? what is it here? she can't be both. but yeah. >> okay. so from that, she has been piled on. now unfortunately, the clip wasn't long enough. so it didn't show

the very end of that because that's the bit i actually wanted to show. he's been called to show. but he's been called racist lots of things to show. but he's been called racisi lots of things to show. but he's been called racisi can't lots of things to show. but he's been called racisi can't say lots of things to show. but he's been called racisi can't say on ots of things to show. but he's been called racisi can't say on air of things that i can't say on air alongside the usual threats. so now let me play you the clip in context. but sit back because it's a minutes. but it's a few minutes. but i thought i best play you the full version . version. >> would we care about carol? >> would we care about carol? >> i don't care what carol has to say. the only. the only beef i had with carol was when she worked for the bbc. that worked for the bbc. that that she being political she shouldn't be being political and she was political. she and she was very political. she told to just go now. told boris to just go now. i think she called him. she was disgusted by the prime minister. she out all this vile she kept tweet out all this vile bilge towards the members of the tory party. and i just think that was unacceptable. working for the bbc. see? but now she's left. she can say whatever she likes. i think it's a bit it's a bit rich that she should be complaining that getting complaining that she's getting backlash i think it was backlash because i think it was actually her that started the whole stuff with johnny mercer. actually her that started the whole sand with johnny mercer. actually her that started the whole sand with jshe's' mercer. anyway and then she's complaining his wife is complaining that his wife is sending messages or sending her messages or something and tweeting stuff to her or whatever. it's just like

if you step into that area and start criticising people in that way, then don't be surprised if it comes at you. it comes back at you. >> sure was johnny mercer right to way that, to hit back in the way that, i mean, to mean, he absolutely went to town. mean, he absolutely went to towso mean, he absolutely went to tow so a, mean, he absolutely went to towso a, well, rubbish >> so she has a, well, rubbish life and that she's mad and things like that. >> to look at >> you've got to look at the history basically piled on >> she basically piled in on johnny organised, johnny, organised, piled in on him and his wife. so he's a human being at some point he said, you know i've had said, you know what? i've had enough of this. and also she was factually if factually incorrect. and if you look feed , you'd look at her twitter feed, you'd have you'd see she have to you'd have to see she she probably she was she probably knew she was and just to start a fight and just wanted to start a fight and point johnny again. and point at johnny again. and the one thing know johnny one thing i know about johnny mercer, thing i know mercer, the one thing i know about cares about johnny, he deeply cares about johnny, he deeply cares about . he about what he is doing. he actually it. you can actually believes in it. you can be about politics and be cynical about politics and ministers and the like, but he believes think believes in this. and i think you saw who thought, you just saw a man who thought, i'm having that because i've i'm not having that because i've come to politics to help homeless veterans, and i'm trying just before i go trying my best just before i go to i it's important to amy, i think it's important to amy, i think it's important to have a bit of context on this. >> so johnny mercer has been talking about ending rough sleeping which is an community, which i know is an issue that frankly, i think

everyone country everyone in the country should really care about veterans, people fought for this people who fought for this country be sleeping country should not be sleeping rough on the streets. >> there technical , isn't >> there is a technical, isn't there, giving someone there, between giving someone a permanent house and taking them off the street and putting them into some kind of sheltered accommodation, and that's kind of where the controversy was lying in this. >> , wasn't it? lying in this. >> that's wasn't it? lying in this. >> that's right.t it? lying in this. >> that's right. and look, i when opposition when he's labour opposition pred when he's labour opposition ripped aside all you've got to remember there's a political bias. there's a political need, you and that person is you know, and that person is responding through their political lens because they political lens because if they were concerned , if they were really concerned, if they really thought rishi should get rid where were they rid of him, where were they when. know, butler when. i don't know, dawn butler did or or i don't did what she did or or i don't know labour, but where were know any labour, but where were they when that happened? if they're really outraged about they're really outraged about the public the interplay between the public and should outraged and mps, they should be outraged for , not just when it's for everyone, not just when it's conservative. views conservative. i mean, your views on this does carol have on this does does carol have a place political discourse? >> do you think i think there >> do you think i think if there was now , johnny was a poll right now, johnny mercer versus carol vorderman , mercer versus carol vorderman, carol absolutely carol vorderman would absolutely trounce him because she's incredibly popular at the

moment. >> and i think that's because she just knows where when something stinks , like she's something stinks, like she's bringing the tories to receive more followers on twitter. >> twitter. because because she, our national broadcaster, supported her for that reason. >> the reason i think i respect her at the moment is because you've got those pictures of her with them, cameron, with with them, david cameron, and she's very open. she used to vote and she's very open. she used to votishe was a tory and she is >> she was a tory and she is sick of the party has sick of what the party has become, i think a become, which i think is a position lot position that a lot of conservative voters can relate to. >> i would emm- em to it, but h to it, but we >> i would relate to it, but we won't in that way , won't go speaking in that way, just would have. just the way i would have. >> some sympathy >> i would have some sympathy for conducted for that if she conducted herself like a up. herself like a grown up. >> doesn't . >> she doesn't. >> she doesn't. >> organises pilings. two of >> she organises pilings. two of us on his sofa, have been us sat on his sofa, have been piling on her. >> yeah, a bit piled in by her. and look, on one hand, she's got all stuff, you know, all that stuff, you know, she's all that stuff, you know, she's a political commentator a serious political commentator and if you look at her instagram, it's all pictures of her bums and her boobs. >> what is it? what it >> so what is it? what is it here? both. and at here? she can't be both. and at the the day, if you're the end of the day, if you're going to she did right, going to do what she did right, make you do factually. make sure you do it factually. and say with nana. and i will say i'm with nana. once was not working

once she was not working for the bbc, the bbc, and i think the bbc did the right thing by asking her finally consider her position finally to consider her position right. say she wants. >> tell you though, think >> tell you what though, i think without have without her we wouldn't have seen in the seen michelle mone in the position now. position she is now. >> hurt so that's the >> it was hurt so that's the full context. >> that cannot be >> he said that you cannot be a serious political commentator while showing your bum and boobs . his point was people won't take you seriously and that in his view, you cannot be both. he did not say you cannot have beauty and brains because that's what's been that's what's been going out. in my view , this is going out. in my view, this is not misogyny, which is a hate of women because firstly, sean doesn't hate women. and secondly , can you imagine if rishi sunak or sir keir starmer were to post overtly sexual pictures on instagram , squatting on exercise instagram, squatting on exercise machines and showing off any bulges , then trying to create bulges, then trying to create serious policy ? kc. so it's not serious policy? kc. so it's not really sexist because it applies to men as well. you probably wouldn't take them seriously as politicians if they did this, which is why most politicians

and political figures do not have instagram. and we're constantly telling our kids to be careful what they post on social media. is it may affect their future career. we warn young people of the pitfalls of things like onlyfans and how it can affect your future prospects . it's but at no point did sean say you cannot have beauty and brains , because there is no brains, because there is no doubt that carole has both. but they're all at it. on lbc. this morning, paul brown's gaffes was slagging off gb news and calling on ofcom to deal with us. >> we've got so we've got election debates coming, we've got new broadcasters on the scene, uh, since the last election. >> gb news for example . >> gb news for example. >> gb news for example. >> so how do you think this is going to play out in broadcasting terms? do you going to play out in broad someg terms? do you going to play out in broad some oferms? do you going to play out in broad some of the 5? do you going to play out in broad some of the interesting you think some of the interesting things do think the big >> well, i do think the big issue is how does ofcom or the broadcasting regulator have gb news. >> and i've been up, i've been saying for years now that ofcom hasn't been tough enough on gb news and that gb news is, is frankly a right wing propaganda

channel. >> um, even though i appear on it from time to time as a pundit , well, there's no balance or pushback. >> there was a bit more, but there was no balance or pushback. so if anybody should be ofcom, actually be brought up to ofcom, actually it on that channel it should be you on that channel right there. because frankly, you should be saying gb news are not here to defend themselves or, about that? or, you know, how about that? but because a lot of these people we've been slagged off by, the whole issue by, you know, the whole issue was talked about itv well. was talked about on itv as well. the whole , um, issue with shaun the whole, um, issue with shaun bailey there was no one to bailey and there was no one to say news not here to defend say gb news not here to defend themselves or we've reached out to shaun bailey and on and to shaun bailey and so on and so forth, what should forth, which is what should happen. why? forth, which is what should happen. they why? forth, which is what should happen. they believe why? forth, which is what should happen. they believe they]? forth, which is what should happen. they believe they hold because they believe they hold the moral high ground the way they disrespect they feel they can disrespect and branding and disregard us branding our entire wing entire channel right wing because dare speak up. we because we dare to speak up. we can all list things that someone has that may has said in the past that may have acceptable or then, have been acceptable or then, but no longer acceptable now, but is no longer acceptable now, or people have made a or where people have made a mistake. mean, even carol will mistake. i mean, even carol will be of that one, but this be guilty of that one, but this particular clip that went viral from gb news has been taken out

of context with the intention to destroy . and it's wrong. carol . destroy. and it's wrong. carol. and you know that in the evening standard, carol said not that he's a coward, referring to sean. you see, misogynist. it's just a fancy noun for someone who bullies women and all bullies , as we know, are bullies, as we know, are ultimately cowards . that's what ultimately cowards. that's what she . sean talked about she said. sean talked about pylons and that this is exactly what is happening to him. but carol, seriously, pot, kettle, you're a bully. but i'm ready for the pylon, so bring it . on for the pylon, so bring it. on i went on a bit. didn't i score past already? but before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houh the great british debate this hour. asking, tax hour. i'm asking, can tax cuts save tories? yes. comes save the tories? yes. this comes as after 27 million workers are set to benefit from a cut on national insurance contributions. that's from today with the main rate being reduced to ten from 12 to 10. then stay

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beauty. you can give myself up. but yeah, straight off the beach on and got changed on on the plane and got changed on the into the the plane. fabulous. into the studio. it's good to back studio. and it's good to be back and happy new to everyone. and happy new year to everyone. but carol vorderman. >> really, seriously , i'm >> really, seriously, i'm actually thinking she has an identity crisis because as you, as you said , one minute she's as you said, one minute she's there posing , as you said, one minute she's there posing, pushing the boobs up the bottom out the next she's this very serious , woke this very serious, woke politician. she is like jeremy corbyn with hair extensions . and corbyn with hair extensions. and i really don't understand her because she knows she's got a huge following. she knows what she says. people are all going to jump on the bandwagon and it is nothing but bullying. >> i'm afraid to say. >> i'm afraid to say. >> and i know johnny mercer, he is fantastic . i saw him on the is fantastic. i saw him on the field of remembrance. we were together. we were with our queen, um, camilla, and he does so much for those veterans. he helps so much for them to help them. i can't tell you at and carol should really take a look at herself here, and i this is

nothing more than bullying . and nothing more than bullying. and i think it's got to stop. >> it's not fair because i understand and what sean was saying. i get the point he's alluding to. if you want to be really serious in politics, then that's probably not the best way to do it. that's all he's saying. it's not saying that you can't way and that can't do it. that way and that you are not beautiful, that you are not beautiful, and that you are not beautiful, and that you cannot be intelligent as well. is well. but what he's saying is the two things probably don't work together. i don't work so well together. i don't think anything, and think there's anything, and you can without posting think there's anything, and you can of without posting think there's anything, and you can of pictures|out posting think there's anything, and you can of pictures that 30sting think there's anything, and you can of pictures that carolg does. >> as well. you know which carol clearly is deliberately pushing the envelope , and that's totally the envelope, and that's totally her choice. mean, what her choice. i mean, look what i would i've advised would say is i've advised politicians um, my politicians for years, um, my old friend chris bryant, in the very early days of internet dating sites, got caught in his pants. >> um, he was like, he was >> um, and he was like, he was put into siberia for several years. he was laughed at. he wasn't on the front bench and all that. he paid a all of that. and he paid a price, know, for a picture price, you know, for a picture like this you know, like that and this is, you know, 20 odd years so all 20 odd years ago. so all politicians think about 20 odd years ago. so all poliimage think about 20 odd years ago. so all poliimage that think about 20 odd years ago. so all poliimage that theyhink about 20 odd years ago. so all poliimage that they present»ut the image that they present people in politics, have to people in politics, they have to decide, you know, i decide how

often people often i shave, whether people take i've got take me seriously if i've got stubble, , you know, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour , you know, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour jacket , you know, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour jacket am you know, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour jacket am i you know, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour jacket am i going now, take me seriously if i've got stubtcolour jacket am i going tow, what colour jacket am i going to wear today? and that's what we all when we're discussing all do when we're discussing serious that serious issues to make sure that we're so you we're taken seriously. so you know, clearly the clip's been taken context. don't taken out of context. i don't agree much, agree with shaun bailey on much, but completely but clearly it was completely taken out of context and there was about it. was nothing misogynist about it. >> think so. but was nothing misogynist about it. >> might think so. but was nothing misogynist about it. >> might argue, k so. but was nothing misogynist about it. >> might argue, though,t was nothing misogynist about it. >> might argue, though, that carol might argue, though, that it's speaking, and it's the way he's speaking, and i have cooked i know other people have cooked up sean may have up things that sean may have said that this. said ages ago that prove this. and think, well, let's and i just think, well, let's talk now, because talk about right now, because that's talking that's the clip you're talking about, all about, because we can all go backwards things backwards and find things that people aren't on. people have said that aren't on. even guilty of. even carol would be guilty of. that so but she that was my point. so but she would argue that actually, you know, demeaning know, this is demeaning to women. what wants. >> i think % how you >> i think it's about how you how it. i think, you how you phrase it. i think, you know, be absolutely know, you should be absolutely clear about clear that it's not just about it's about women, that it's not just about women, that it's not just about women, that it's well . you it's about men as well. you know, you mentioned know, i mean, you mentioned onlyfans. whole new onlyfans. there's a whole new generation people generation of people who send out know, kids generation of people who send out pictures know, kids generation of people who send out pictures to know, kids generation of people who send out pictures to each v, kids you send pictures to each other, you know, dating sites, people know, on dating sites, people send nude pictures of other send nude pictures of each other , um, to all , of all genders, um, to all people of genders. and people of all genders. and they've to consider whether they've got to consider whether

they've got to consider whether they you they want to be, you know, politicians in the future, because a certain because we do have a certain standard hold standard that we hold politicians to, that electors expect them to do. i mean, never mind. you know, instagram pages, michael foot and his donkey jacket wasn't taken seriously. and a long way from what and that's a long way from what carol but you carol puts on her insta. but you wouldn't see rishi sunak running around a pair of speedos around a pair of tight speedos to election, would to win the next election, would you? got be >> i mean, you've got to be taken to be in taken seriously to be in politics and the australian . politics and the australian. >> the old australian prime minister, known minister, tony abbott, was known for wearing his budgie smugglers. that , smugglers. what they call that, and actually affected his and people actually affected his image. thought image. you know, he thought it made him look ridiculous. >> we've to >> but i think what we've got to look there's lot of look at, there's a lot of jealousy going around because gb news growing news news is the fastest growing news channel. got over channel. i mean, they got over a million beginning million viewers at the beginning of , of this million viewers at the beginning of, of this year on the, on the channel. that's right. and people very jealous. people are very, very jealous. they're beating the bbc. they're beating sky news. and you know what we're honest. we don't call you know, hamas freedom fighters. this is channel that fighters. this is a channel that speaks the truth. and a lot of people like carol vorderman are very scared . very jealous and very scared. >> kc and michael crick, i mean ,

>> kc and michael crick, i mean, michael the very day of michael crick on the very day of the 2015 election, michael crick had with michael crick had a row with me michael crick talking about bias is a like talking about bias is a bit like king talking about king herod talking about children's rights. i mean, michael crick on channel 4 news was completely biased and i used to to complain to have to complain about him all although all the time. although michael isn't here to defend. >> he's not here >> no he isn't, so he's not here to and neither carol. to defend. and neither is carol. to you we're to be fair. but you know, we're looking something, i looking at something, and i think that been taken think that this has been taken out but do out of context. but what do you think is news on tv, think this is gb news on tv, onune think this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio coming royal roundup coming up. it's royal roundup time. will be here time. angela levin will be here to latest to give us the latest from behind walls. but up behind the palace walls. but up next, the great behind the palace walls. but up next, debate the great behind the palace walls. but up next, debate this he great behind the palace walls. but up next, debate this hour'eat behind the palace walls. but up next, debate this hour and british debate this hour and i'm asking, can save the asking, can tax cuts save the tories? i've got to pull up right that right now on x asking you that very question . can tax cuts save very question. can tax cuts save the tories? send me your thoughts. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. cast your vote now

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former labour minister simon danczuk former labour mp ann widdecombe, former conservative mp and last but by no means least, darren grimy. he's here in the studio with me and gb news presenter he's on later actually on the saturday five. right. so i'm to start right. so i'm going to start with ann widdecombe with you ann widdecombe tax cuts, can they be saved ? cuts, tories can they be saved? >> nothing can save the tories. >> nothing can save the tories. >> absolutely nothing. now, uh that you know, they're on the path to ruin at the end of the yeah path to ruin at the end of the year. they know that they, they, they could offer 100% in tax cuts and nobody would believe that it would last five minutes. so no, nothing is going to save the tories. um, obviously people associate the conservative party with low taxes as they are appalled that this government has presided over record taxes, record immigration, record crime. it is not a tory government. so when you say, you know, can something save the tories? i look round and i say , tories? i look round and i say, where are these tories . where are these tories. >> mhm. that's a good point. actually some of them don't seem very tory at all. i'm going to

come to denis macshane on. come to you denis macshane on. >> can i possibly disagree with the great ann whittaker ? the great ann whittaker? >> it's uh once again i'm quite often find myself with gb news, uh, lined up with her. look, liz truss tried a year ago with big tax cut measure and it bombed the economy . it landed people the economy. it landed people with crippling increases in mortgage payments . because what mortgage payments. because what people don't seem to understand is we don't live in bubble britain. we're part of a global global economy. and everybody can move their money in and out just with a touch of a button . just with a touch of a button. and so tax cuts that . then and so tax cuts that. then aren't funded are a terrible signal to send. jeremy's playing little gimmicks here. we see that he's cutting national insurance. april what are insurance. but in april what are called tax thresholds . that is called tax thresholds. that is when you start paying income tax are now going to go up significantly because he's frozen those tax thresholds . are frozen those tax thresholds. are tons of people. many more people than are going to get the income

tax. the national insurance cut are going face paying higher are going to face paying higher taxes, play taxes, and they're going to play right reeves hands, right into rachel reeves hands, because the highest because we've got the highest tax burden ever in british history under a so—called tax cutting party. >> um, but it's probably be more though under the labour party. i'm going to try simon danczuk. what do you think i think tax cuts, uh, will help the conservatives in actual fact . conservatives in actual fact. >> and i think when it comes to the budget on the 6th of march, jeremy hunt, who's a very capable politician, we shouldn't underestimate him. i think he'll make further cuts or announce further cuts. uh, there there's no doubt about it that the tax burden in this country is far too high. it has to be reduced at, uh, significantly. and that's what liz truss was attempting to do . it's affecting attempting to do. it's affecting our ability to grow the economy. so the sooner we make tax cuts, the better . the better. >> mhm. okay. uh darren grimes, can tax cuts save the tories. >> well look nana rachel reeves says that when she opens her

bank statement, she looks on in horror. well i actually look on in horror at the 28 billion that they want to borrow for this net zero nonsense. that is frankly going to send jobs overseas like you wouldn't believe and bankrupt the very people that labour are supposed to be in politics to represent . politics to represent. >> so whilst the concern of party are i think, two sides of the same horrible old political behind as the labour party, i think it's going to get far worse and that actually we can talk about tax cuts until the cows come home, but it ain't going to do anything to fix. >> actually the big problems that we're all being ignored on, on everything from net zero migration in the culture of this country and actually what we've just seen on the streets today in the name of people calling for intifada and martyrdom and all the rest of it, and the police looking on and doing absolutely nothing. >> that's what we've got to >> nana that's what we've got to look forward to. under labour. >> says, and ann , >> but but ann says, and ann, you nothing can save you said that nothing can save them so we're going to be so in

them. so we're going to be so in your and do you see your view. and where do you see it in it going. do you see us in a coalition or hung parliament or what see happening . oh, what do you see happening. oh, well, mean , i think a hung well, i mean, i think a hung parliament would be an extremely optimistic prediction . optimistic prediction. >> now for the tories. i think the tories are going to lose this election. i see no way that they conceivably win . and i have they conceivably win. and i have to say, and it's very hurtful after 55 years in that party, but i have to say that i think they deserve to lose, um, they have just not got their have simply just not got their priorities now. you know, priorities right now. you know, if we got rid as reform says, if you got rid of a lot of the net zero nonsense, you cut down the bill for immigration, which is vastly high at the moment. you did several other things cut waste . you could you could fund waste. you could you could fund proper tax cuts , proper tax proper tax cuts, proper tax cuts, not a tinkering here and there . uh, liz truss's problem there. uh, liz truss's problem was not what she wanted to do. it was that she couldn't show how she was going to pay for what she wanted to do. that was her problem. now uh, you know,

reform will show how it's going to pay, but it will have tax cutting very high on its agenda. >> um , well, it's interesting >> um, well, it's interesting because chris skidmore, who's left a seat that would never have existed anyway, after the next election. so i don't know how worry about how we should worry about that. but concerned . he was but he was concerned. he was annoyed about zero. but annoyed about net zero. but dennis, your party or your ex party dennis, your party or your ex party have said that they would roll back on the sort of 2030 thing and actually bring it back to the previous state. do you think that that sort of thing is going to push people away from labour? >> i know particularly , i >> i know particularly, i thought my ex party, i just got the bill i saw come through on my emails today. so my son had been taken off me, so did about simon. were all old labour people here? um, no. i think in general sort of trying to pitch what labour will do to win votes right now isn't going to work. i mean, you can talk about anything net zero war in gaza , anything net zero war in gaza, closing down frigates . you can closing down frigates. you can ramble off all all sorts of

little items. it doesn't, you know, cut through the plain fact is that in april, millions more people are going to find that the money they thought they'd earned because of through in wages going up because of inflation is now going to be taken off them by jeremy hunt. so he's giving a little £2. sorry sorry. >> well that would have. but dennis that would have a lot of people that would have happened anyway lot them anyway because a lot of them pushed themselves by asking for more wrong with more money. nothing wrong with that. bracket. that. into a higher tax bracket. so no no no. so no, no no no. >> me. forgive me. this >> forgive me. forgive me. this was a decision by jeremy hunt rishi sunak before it to freeze tax thresholds . normally in the tax thresholds. normally in the hinckley, when inflation went off, you had to wait to earn enough money, then to pay tax. he's now frozen that and it's a secret fiscal drag. it's a stealth tax. so there's lots of technical faux pas i think that's going to cause tories a lot of damage. and uh, uh, as simon said, liz trust. i mean, i

know how to score goals for chelsea . uh, but i don't think chelsea. uh, but i don't think i'd be any good at doing it unless i was actually on the pitch and able to do it. she wasn't. >> i was going to say, that's a big that's a big claim. dennis well, thank for big that's a big claim. dennis well, dennis. thank for big that's a big claim. dennis well, dennis. very. for big that's a big claim. dennis well, dennis. very briefly r big that's a big claim. dennis well, dennis. very briefly . then that. dennis. very briefly. then dennis will say a yes no . can dennis will say a yes or no. can tax the tories? or tax cuts save the tories? yes or no? danczuk yes or no. no? no. simon danczuk yes or no. yes. yes yes. uh oh. and woolacombe , yes or no? i think woolacombe, yes or no? i think i might get a yes or no on this one. one. >> one. >> no. >> no. >> brilliant. and also , uh, >> brilliant. and also, uh, darren grimes. no, no . you don't darren grimes. no, no. you don't think they can. oh, crikey. there's only simon danczuk anneliese labour. listen, thank you to of your you so much to all of your thoughts. denis macshane, simon danczuk and widdecombe and also darren . darren will be darren grimes. darren will be back on for the saturday back later on for the saturday five at 7 or 8. seven. it's seven. >> yes, it is. >> well, the last time it was six wasn't it. yeah it changed. all right. well listen. yes thank you very much. all right. and to well. so and thank you to you as well. so what do think home study what do you think at home study two 4:00. is two minutes after 4:00. this is gb tv , online and on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll continue the great british continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking

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force today , which jeremy hunt force today, which jeremy hunt claims will benefit 27 million people and save the average family. with two earners, nearly £1,000. this year, however, the government has frozen the income tax threshold , pushing many into tax threshold, pushing many into higher brackets , which has higher brackets, which has offset the benefits . and the offset the benefits. and the chancellor is admitting that further cuts are unlikely . you further cuts are unlikely. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you . just coming up to >> thank you. just coming up to 35 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news. i'm nana akua coming up , royal roundup time and royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. but up next, it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, can cuts save the tories? can tax cuts save the tories? i've got to pull up right now asking very question can asking that very question can tax cuts the tories? send tax cuts save the tories? send me thoughts. email gb views me your thoughts. email gb views gb com me at

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talking about it because chancellorjeffrey hunt has said chancellor jeffrey hunt has said that he's unsure if the government can afford to offer voters more tax cuts. and all of this after the national insurance reduction comes into force today. so i'm asking, could that be enough ? could tax could that be enough? could tax cuts be the thing that could save them? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist cundy columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour adviser matthew le le la la la la. matthew >> la la la la. no, i don't think it can save them. >> you don't think? no. absolutely not. i mean, i think this mean, you know, the this is i mean, you know, the gall gumption nan gall and the gumption is my nan would say the sort of would if used to say the sort of phrase to say, they've phrase i used to say, they've basically taken tenner basically taken a tenner off you in ten tax they've in tax for every ten tax they've taken you with the record taken off you with the record tax we've they're tax rises we've had, they're giving not giving you £2 back. it's not much deal wishes raw deal. much of a deal wishes raw deal. >> about labour. so >> but what about labour. and so there's there is no there's no deal there is no deal is there's no deal there is no deal. is he going to do. so deal. what is he going to do. so labelled deal. what is he going to do. so lab well no . to be fair they >> well no. to be fair they will. before the election because always because it's always it's always good. yeah. well you always get they tax they always send out their tax plans. they clear plans. what they have been clear about , clear plans. what they have been clear about, clear is plans. what they have been clear about , clear is that if about, clear about is that if there inheritance tax cut,

there is an inheritance tax cut, they will reverse it because that's a tax for that's a tax cut for millionaires. but what they want to do is as soon the economy to do is as soon as the economy allows, for ordinary allows, cut taxes for ordinary people, working families. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peo but working families. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peo but we working families. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peo but we are �*king families. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peobut we are all; families. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peobut we are all ordinarys. allows, cut taxes for ordinary peobut we are all ordinary and >> but we are all ordinary and let's like let's be honest here, i'd like to they have to offer, to hear what they have to offer, because somebody . did because it's like somebody. did you watch that thing? you ever watch that thing? what's that one? look what's that one? winners look inside suitcase . one, inside that suitcase. one, there's suitcases you just there's suitcases and you just have a suitcase. have to choose a suitcase. >> yeah? yeah, old game show. >> yeah, yeah. so don't >> yeah, yeah, yeah. so we don't know no absolutely know what's in it. no absolutely we labour will be absolutely >> the labour will be absolutely clear its tax plans before clear about its tax plans before the generally, um the election. it's generally, um , storage hunters, storage hunters where you money for hunters where you pay money for a don't know a storage box, you don't know what's lizzie cundy, you what's in it. lizzie cundy, you don't anything my don't want anything in my storage? >> starball. don't storage? >> what ;tarball. don't storage? >> what;taristands don't storage? >> what ;tari stands for. n't storage? >> what;taristands for. that is storage? >> thing.t;taristands for. that is storage? >> thing. butistands for. that is storage? >> thing. but look,is for. that is storage? >> thing. but look,is f0|beent is storage? >> thas. but look,is f0|beent is storage? >> thas yout look,is f0|beent is storage? >> thas you know.is f0|beent is storage? >> thas you know ,; f0|beent is storage? >> thas you know , speaking: is storage? >> thas you know , speaking to away. as you know, speaking to many people. they're very disillusioned with the tory party they feel let down by the tory party, and they're in the political wilderness, to be honest. but one thing i do know, they don't want keir starmer. no and, you know, they don't know who to vote for. that is why we need the come back kid. nigel

farage and i'm afraid, look, you know, cutting taxes all, all too little, too late and jeremy hunt is so vague isn't he? let's be honest. and now he's talking up inflation and does hunt and sunak honestly think this can win them the next election ? ian win them the next election? ian i mean, come on. well. be serious now. let's have a look . serious now. let's have a look. >> look, we've seen the problems mounting up today. >> let's remind ourselves of the tory performance. crime up. tory performance. look crime up. there's shortage in there's a huge shortage in police.the channel. much across the channel. so much for stopping an stopping the boats. it's an absolute . as said, absolute joke. as i said, it could a labour press officer. could be a labour press officer. he the migration over he could stop the migration over 745,000. rwanda failure. 745,000. no, rwanda failure. another 240 million. we'll talk. yeah um, and now we've got the doctor strikes the in—house fighting. i'm afraid the tories have botched it up. and that's why we need our very own nigel farage backing . farage backing. >> i'm not sure i agree with that conclusion, but i agree with your analysis. >> no, but the point of it is, is they messed this up

is that they have messed this up royally. i mean, it's royally. completely i mean, it's just absolutely terrible . all just absolutely terrible. all but the alternative could be a lot worse. >> no, i think the alternative is going to be a lot better. i think people are crying to think people are crying out to have their say in general have their say in a general election, they, election, even if they, you know, going know, however, they're going to vote. just such vote. i think there's just such frustration with the government. look, shambles look, we've seen what a shambles this we've seen this mp this morning. we've seen this mp resigning. know, not resigning. you know, he's not even hold you even going to hold on for, you know, seat would even going to hold on for, you know gone seat would even going to hold on for, you know gone anyway. eat would even going to hold on for, you know gone anyway. seats>uld even going to hold on for, you know gone anyway. seats would have gone anyway. seats would have gone anyway. seats would have gone anyway. seats would have gone but have would have gone anyway. but he to the he wouldn't even hold on to the election. he's so election. um, because he's so disillusioned with the tories and about the and with him. it's about the green issues. and i think for a lot in green issues. and i think for a lot blue in green issues. and i think for a lot blue the in green issues. and i think for a lot blue the where the blue wall, the seats where they're dems, they're facing the lib dems, voters who are prosperous, voters who are more prosperous, climate a really big climate change is a really big issue for them. and this is and the walk away. sorry. >> i'm sorry. i think that's the total detachment, the 28 billion annual money that they were going to spend on green jobs. they it back because they had to roll it back because they because country they said because the country said because they said it >> no, because they said it would the market. would destabilise the market. >> let them let them own that . >> let them let them own that. >> let them let them own that. >> so yeah. look, i think labour's be careful. i labour's got to be careful. i a 28 going to be 28 billion is going to be absolutely what it is and

absolutely clear what it is and when it's going to but when it's going to happen. but we've invest in these when it's going to happen. but we've jobs invest in these when it's going to happen. but we've jobs ithe st in these when it's going to happen. but we've jobs ithe future.ese green jobs of the future. >> let's be honest keir >> look let's be honest keir starmer that >> look let's be honest keir sta|labour that >> look let's be honest keir sta|labour conference that >> look let's be honest keir sta|labour conference party, he the labour conference party, he didn't mention migration. didn't even mention migration. the have, the immigration problem we have, which to do it for him which is a huge to do it for him on this, on these seats, all the could even write a line for him. matthew he doesn't he's matthew he doesn't know he's captain that is captain flip flop. and that is the and you know what the trouble. and you know what worries me? we're going to have more and more of this woke nonsense. and don't forget, he didn't answer the what a woman the question. what a woman was. he's a clear answer he's got a very clear answer now. got children and now. he's got two children and he woman he doesn't know what a woman is. seriously, want him to be seriously, you want him to be prime minister? >> no, no. look, i think lord help us. >> em- >> lord, help us. if keir starmer very clear. starmer gets very clear. >> on that. >> answer. answer on that. >> answer. answer on that. >> i mean eventually, >> and i mean eventually, eventually he did. eventually he should . should. >> e“ e in a mess. >> he got himself in a mess. >> he got himself in a mess. >> 99.9 dodi don't. but that meant 1 in 1000 did >> 99.9 dodi don't. but that meant1 in 1000 did he got. meant 1 in 1000 did he got. that's nonsense. >> he got himself in a mess on that. >> but think that's >> but i think that's a ridiculous. that's a small thing. >> which he was trying not to offend. he's awake. >> which he was trying not to offehe he's awake. >> which he was trying not to offe he follows vake. >> which he was trying not to offe he follows what >> which he was trying not to offehe follows what thinks >> he follows what he thinks week. >> follows ell-n ell-- week. »| week. >> i folliwhat i think. week. >> i folliwhat he's think. week. >> i folliwhat he's ahink. week. >> i folliwhat he's a ink. week. >> i folliwhat he's a i think >> i think what he's a i think he's shown strong he's shown really strong leadership last, leadership over the last, uh,

year leadership over the last, uh, yea he's written his is >> he's written his script is written by tony blair and mandelson you know, tony mandelson. you know, who is tony blair's right. >> just listen, this show is >> and just listen, this show is nothing without you and your views. that's a great british voice is on the show. their opportunity to tell what they voice is on the show. their opporabout to tell what they voice is on the show. their opporabout to ttopics what they voice is on the show. their opporabout to ttopics we're:hey think about the topics we're discussing. map discussing. we got the map map. we're bristol. yes we're going up to bristol. yes let's let's have let's go to bristol. let's have a over to bristol and have a head over to bristol and have a head over to bristol and have a chat with lee harris. lee well , well happy new year, lee. have we spoken in the new year? we haven't. have we? it's the first show year. um, haven't. have we? it's the first sho lee, year. um, haven't. have we? it's the first sho lee, what year. um, haven't. have we? it's the first sho lee, what do year. um, haven't. have we? it's the first sho lee, what do you�*. um, haven't. have we? it's the first sholee, what do you think um, haven't. have we? it's the first sho lee, what do you think then? so, lee, what do you think then? can tax cuts save the tories at this late stage ? this late stage? >> no, uh, tax cuts on their own won't be enough. >> they need a miracle. rishi is about as popular as a in a lift. >> and the failing tories are consistently 20 points behind in the polls . the polls. >> as you know, today's national insurance tax cut will be welcomed by millions of struggling families. >> as you've been >> but as you've been discussing, we still the discussing, we still have the highest burden since world highest tax burden since world war ii. >> the government have frozen income tax threshold. so the tax

burden for households still burden for households is still rising. top of rising. this is on top of inflation high energy inflation on sky high energy pnces inflation on sky high energy prices and increase in prices and huge increase in mortgage payments . you mortgage and rent payments. you know the tories have know the problem the tories have is trust is completely broken. >> people are fed up with being lied to. >> just just look at the immigration pledges made by successive governments successive tory governments in the astronomical net the latest astronomical net migration figures, or , you know, migration figures, or, you know, the disingenuous claim that they cleared the asylum backlog . it's cleared the asylum backlog. it's all nonsense and misdirection . all nonsense and misdirection. and, you know, another major problem that they have is polling consistently shows that most 2019 voters can't stand rishi sunak , and i'm one of rishi sunak, and i'm one of them. a spineless , them. he's a spineless, backstabbing, two faced liar. >> what would it help if he perhaps did some deliver anything? >> would it help if perhaps he posed with some nice pictures on instagram? would it be more credible that way in his in his speedos or some sort of crunches and all that? would that help carol vorderman stylee , you carol vorderman stylee, you know, sunak sunak high tax hunt and his merry band of arrogant

tory wets are the probably the main reason why they're likely to get annihilated in the next election. yeah, so no speedos . election. yeah, so no speedos. they're not going to help. >> labour are going to win. not because more people are going out to vote. labour. we saw that from elections. from the recent by elections. labour win because labour are going to win because tory home. >> are mess. it's a >> are well, it's a mess. it's a mess. that's where we are. mess. but that's where we are. leigh harris has pleasure. leigh harris has a pleasure. thank that's leigh thank you so much. that's leigh harris, a great british voice in bristol. think gb bristol. what do you think gb views gbnews.com or tweet us at gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live. this is gb news coming up. i'll be speaking to tom skinner for difficult conversation. for my difficult conversation. we'll his ideas we'll be discussing his ideas that he's put forward to tackle knife crime. but up next let's get some weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there! i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. it is looking largely dry as high pressure

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temperatures the cold side, temperatures on the cold side, 4 to celsius many into the to 5 celsius for many into the beginning next week. very beginning of next week. very cold again. and fog and cold again. frost and fog and ice to start the day. most places dry, but that easterly wind increase as we move through the day and the next few days it stays very similar. high pressure keeping it dry but on the cold side looks like things are heating up . are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> so good afternoon. welcome this is gb news. i'm nana akua coming up in the next hour. my great british debate. i'm asking whether you would join the armed forces. but up next it's royal roundup time with royal biographer angela levin. lots to do. stay tuned

53 minutes after 4:00. welcome on board. if you've just tuned in, i'm nana akua. this is a gb news now. there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week has been no different. at each saturday i like to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin? angela right, there is so much to unpack, so we start with andrew epstein situation. >> yes. mean , his whole >> yes. i mean, his whole relationship with epstein, he's actually come up again and you think, oh, what have you been so

stupid? you know , why didn't you stupid? you know, why didn't you actually see what that man was like and keep well away? and he's been accused of going to an orgy with underage children and all sorts of other unpleasant things. and i don't think he can then say i can't remember it, because with, um, genevieve, uh guiffre. she always said, i don't remember her at all. >> oh, virginia giuffre. yes. >> oh, virginia giuffre. yes. >> sorry. yeah he. i don't know anything about her at all, but he do that about not he can't do that about not having a massage every day and being away for 7 or 8 weeks with in the in the south and having all these events around him. you can't. >> but there were lots of people because the list came out, but there were lots of people on that list . angelina jolie that list. angelina jolie i think even you know, i won't say, but i think wasn't king charles on the list. other people just on this random list wasn't on the list, and wasn't who was on the list, and there was a list of loads of

people on so king charles people on this. so king charles wasn't list. wasn't on the list. >> letting out >> they let their letting out people times. um, bill people a few times. um, bill clinton all sorts clinton was on it and all sorts of things . people who were of things. people who were actually for a meeting. actually there for a meeting. it's not everybody who was there . that's right, was . well, that's right, it was just so we have be just lists of so we have to be very careful say . so very careful what you say. so they you know, a lot of they but you know, a lot of well—known people were accused of being there, but we don't exactly know they need to investigate what they doing investigate what they were doing there. but actually the effect he has on the royal family and on the public is enormous , on the public is enormous, really. i mean, how how much more can you do to keep him quiet and what should you do? i mean, king charles, um, it's just come out. it's going to stop, um, paying for protection. officers while he's in his home and in windsor and that's actually going to be very difficult because it's going to go thousands and they want them out because they've got, um , 30 out because they've got, um, 30 rooms in that house and he doesn't really need it . i think

doesn't really need it. i think they stopped because fergie, his ex—wife , um, was very ill and ex—wife, um, was very ill and had cancer operation , but she's had cancer operation, but she's now much better. she's been on television. she's around. we saw her on christmas day, going to church with with all the family. the first time in 32 years. and um, it's a very difficult to work out how you deal that. they have got. work out how you deal that. they have got . you know, the family have got. you know, the family part is one thing. and then the professional part, as it were, he's lost all that. and apparently he's very low because he doesn't know what to do with himself. and they need to hope to do something in case he also decides he wants to write a book, which he hasn't done. he's not been against the monarchy just to correct that. >> obviously, king charles isn't on the list. i'll just say that again. i don't know why even on the list. i'll just say that agaithation't know why even on the list. i'll just say that agai thation there. v why even on the list. i'll just say that agaithation there.v was even saw that on there. i was obviously reading something saw that on there. i was obviobut reading something saw that on there. i was obviobut rea(so; something saw that on there. i was obviobut rea(so it;omething saw that on there. i was obviobut rea(so it it'sathing saw that on there. i was obviobut rea(so it it's a1ing saw that on there. i was obviobut rea(so it it's a very else, but yes, so it it's a very difficult position in the meantime, there's meantime, though, that there's this that, um , fergie and this rumour that, um, fergie and he and andrew might marry again. >> and i think that's quite

interesting. well, they might do they seem very good friends . they seem very good friends. they are very good friends. they've known each a very they are very good friends. they time. own each a very they are very good friends. they time. theyeach a very they are very good friends. they time. they understand very they are very good friends. they time. they understand each long time. they understand each other and he makes him other. and i think he makes him brighter. um and i think that once she's had the cancer , which once she's had the cancer, which is very upsetting. of course . is very upsetting. of course. and you realise how much you love somebody and how much you would miss them. you don't want to be without them, but that might some way they can, might be some way that they can, um, get together and be very happy. i'm sure the children would because are would love it because they are very homely, but what else is there? >> i mean, if you find somebody that with and you that you can live with and you get really well with, get on really well with, obviously there's other obviously there's the other side of sort you know , of it, the sort of, you know, the sexual it, if that's the sexual side of it, if that's not then maybe the not there, then maybe the i don't know, but you know, don't know, but my, you know, they well marry each they might as well marry each other bit naughty. they might as well marry each oth weren'tnaughty. they might as well marry each oth weren'tnaugithey both had >> weren't they. they both had sort um, flings, as sort of, um, flings, flings as it were, and toes sucked . it were, and toes sucked. >> oh that was horrible. that i don't even want to think about that. was nasty. about that. that was nasty. what about um, now we had, um, mark, right. didn't we, in denmark? who decided to abdicate . um, and

decided to abdicate. um, and then people were sort of saying, should king charles abdicate? i can't doing that. can't see him doing that. >> well, it's nonsense really. i mean, she's been queen for 53 years she's 83 years old, years and she's 83 years old, and he's done it for a year, and he's 75 and extremely energetic. he's waited for this all his life . and i think this is people life. and i think this is people who don't like the monarchy, who are trying to push it across. i mean, he's reception is actually enormous . really good. mean, he's reception is actually enormous. really good. um, and actually the documentary on boxing day that the bbc did about the coronation um, it was delightful and had the most number of people on that day. but there's been 900 complaints to the bbc that it was. i heard about this, but the bbc have done so many nasty things, you know, and panorama , should they know, and panorama, should they have the money that they've got, are they needed at all? so they've done all these nasty ones. i think they people should actually sit back see actually sit back and see something really nice. something that was really nice. and was a very special and it was a very special

occasion. have to hack occasion. you don't have to hack people that you do people every time that you do a documentary on them. i watched it, i thought it was very nice actually. it a lovely one. actually. it was a lovely one. it absolutely delightful. it was absolutely delightful. you saw princess anne you really saw princess anne speaking for me, you know, having written about camilla so positively , she. i felt that positively, she. i felt that princess anne said, you know, she's done amazing hinckley. well, she she didn't know about it. she wasn't brought up with it. she wasn't brought up with it. and i it's absolutely it. and i think it's absolutely wonderful that she's been so good. now, what meghan markle? >> let's we end it on that. she's asked to write some she's been asked to write some chapters book. chapters for a book. >> is that know, >> is that there? you know, she's been doing this book about herself long time, herself for a very long time, which any sign which we haven't seen any sign of it's got to be careful of it. it's got to be careful that be that she's not going to be moaning again , which had moaning again, which you've had so times that we don't so many times that we don't want. to again , no want. pleased to hear again, no more moaning. publishers have said to see three said that they want to see three chapters before they offer any money, and she is livid . she money, and she is livid. she woman like her would be. she wouldn't understand that most people who write have to do that first, because they make first, because they want to make sure getting something sure they're getting something

for she's for their money. and she's absolutely because of absolutely furious because of course , about how does course, about how do we how does how we know she's furious how do we know she's furious because it's come through various sources that she is furious, interesting. she won't like well, that would like it. well, that would be interesting always wins. interesting to see. always wins. meghan wins if she meghan always wins if she doesn't to be an doesn't want to be just an ordinary to ordinary person who's to show what . what she writes. >> angela have you met >> angela levin, have you met meghan way? you meghan, by the way? yes, you have levin, royal have angela levin, royal biographer, biographer for biographer, also biographer for prince not not prince harry's book not not spare . spare. >> i did for spare for him. >> i did for spare for him. >> no, you did right. >> no, you did right. >> no, you did right. >> no, no. well, that's angela levin, royal biographer. this is gb tuned. more to gb news. stay tuned. more to come the next hour come in the next hour. this is gb news. i'm nana akua . this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. for the next houh digital radio. for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting right now. hitting the headlines right now. on way my difficult on the way my difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to campaigner tom skinner about how we tackle this growing issue

of knife crime, and then for the great british debate this hour, of knife crime, and then for the gre.asking,1 debate this hour, of knife crime, and then for the gre.asking, would te this hour, of knife crime, and then for the gre.asking, would yowis hour, of knife crime, and then for the gre.asking, would you join)ur, of knife crime, and then for the gre.asking, would you join the i'm asking, would you join the armed forces? they're having a problem recruiting people. but first, let's get your latest . news >> nana. thank you very much. good afternoon. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom . the in the gb newsroom. the headunes in the gb newsroom. the headlines at five flood hit households affected by storm henke are being offered thousands of pounds in government support . eight people government support. eight people in eligible areas can apply for up to £500 to help with immediate costs , and there's immediate costs, and there's also an offer of up to £5,000 in grants for some homes and businesses , as 210 flood businesses, as 210 flood warnings remain in place across england, with exceptionally high and in some cases record river levels . great western railway is levels. great western railway is urging passengers to check for cancellations as several lines are closed due to the flooding. gb news east midlands reporter will hollis has this update at the latest that we're hearing from newark and sherwood

district council and the multi—agency response , which multi—agency response, which includes fire and rescue service and the environment agency, is that the concern now is further north in the county to torksey gorge, where a number of places around and that side of the river trent are expected to see rising water levels and flooding . a 16 year old boy has been . a16 year old boy has been remanded in custody charged with the murder of harry pitman, who was stabbed in london on new year's eve. the teenager died following what the police say was an altercation as crowds gathered primrose hill to gathered on primrose hill to watch the fireworks. the suspect, who can't be named, has also with also been charged with possessing weapon . possessing an offensive weapon. harry's sister paid tribute harry's sister has paid tribute to him, saying he had a heart of gold and that wouldn't be gold and that he wouldn't be involved violence as prince involved in violence as prince andrew had daily massages during weeks that he spent at jeffrey epstein's home in florida. that's according to the convicted paedophiles housekeeper, newly released court documents include her testimony from 2009, which says

both the prince and his then wife, sarah, duchess of york, were friends with epstein and the now convicted sex trafficker ghislaine maxwell. the unsealed files were part of a civil lawsuit against maxwell, who's serving a 20 year prison sentence for recruiting underage girls for epstein . prince andrew girls for epstein. prince andrew strongly denies any wrongdoing . strongly denies any wrongdoing. here in the uk, the chancellor says he's not sure if the government can afford to offer voters any more tax cuts before the next election . a 2% the next election. a 2% reduction in national insurance comes into force today, which jeremy hunt claims will benefit 27 million people and save the average family. with two earners nearly £1,000, this year, however, the government has frozen the income tax threshold , frozen the income tax threshold, pushing many into higher brackets , which is offsetting brackets, which is offsetting the benefit of the national insurance cut. the chancellor admits further cuts are unlikely i >> -- >> he thought it was right not to support families through covid and through the cost of living crisis. and yes , taxes living crisis. and yes, taxes had to go up in that period . but

had to go up in that period. but we are a conservative government that wants to bring down taxes because we recognise that families are finding life really tough . it's the start of a tough. it's the start of a process. as chancellor , if i can process. as chancellor, if i can afford to go further , i will. i afford to go further, i will. i don't yet know if i can, but we want to do this because it helps families and it's also helps to grow the economy . grow the economy. >> well, today we've learned that russia has used north korean ballistic missiles in ukraine for the first time. that's according to an independent weapons expert at the united states, has described it as a significant and concerning escalation in the cooperation between the two countries. dutch researcher joost oltmanns, who was among those to examine the debris, says russia is violating international law and russia should be adhering to the sanctions on north korea . sanctions on north korea. >> uh, even more so when it's in the case of, uh, highly significant type of weapon system like, uh, this, uh, short range ballistic missile systems that we're now seeing . so that's that we're now seeing. so that's a really a very gross violation.

uh it's just that there's no , uh it's just that there's no, uh, physical mechanism in place to prevent russia from importing , uh, clandestinely, even even very obviously clandestinely importing, uh, weapons systems, if they choose to do so , almost if they choose to do so, almost 700 afghans that were promised sanctuary here in the uk still haven't been relocated. >> two thirds of those who were eligible who supported british efforts during the war are yet to be resettled , more than two to be resettled, more than two years after the taliban's takeover, some 1500 are still stuck in third countries like iran and pakistan. the foreign secretary david cameron, says plans are in place, though, to bnng plans are in place, though, to bring those refugees home to the uk, but that it's difficult to predict just how quickly people in afghanistan can be brought to safety and alaska airlines has grounded all of its boeing 737 max nine aircraft after a window and part of the fuselage blew

out of the plane in mid—air. the plane was forced into an emergency landing shortly after taking off from the us state of oregon. social media footage shows a large hole in the plane where the emergency exit had previously been. 177 people were on board, but luckily no one was hurt. an investigation has since been launched . this is gb news. been launched. this is gb news. we're across the uk on tv, on digital radio and of course on our website gb news dot com. now though. more from . nana six though. more from. nana six minutes after 5:00. >> this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show about opinion . it's show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours . we'll be debating, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing times discussing and at times we will disagree. be disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy, also a former labour party adviser. matthew

laza to come, my difficult laza still to come, my difficult conversation today is former apprentice contestant and gym owner thomas skinner, who will explain what he is doing to combat knife crime . then for the combat knife crime. then for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking, would you join the armed forces? this comes as the royal navy is forced to decommission two of its ships and advertise for a new rear admiral on linkedin. that's amidst a recruitment crisis. as ever. amidst a recruitment crisis. as ever . get in touch. amidst a recruitment crisis. as ever. get in touch. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so of course, it's at. gb news. so of course, it's time for this week's difficult conversation . an i've noticed conversation. an i've noticed i've got older, i've struggled to say the words difficult conversation. it's actually beginning to be difficult to say , crime , but let's talk knife crime because particularly after harry pitman , just tragically pitman, just 16, was tragically stabbed to death on new year's eve in primrose hill and someone who was doing his bit is tom skinner. have a listen. >> well, i'm down the gym, boss

jim and, uh, what i've been putting on twitter the last few days that stands. if anyone in london or in the surrounding areas feels under pressure, feels threatened to carry a knife, or wants to come and talk to someone, you are welcome down. our gym boss, jim . down. our gym boss, jim. >> there's people from all different backgrounds here that you talk to, feel safe to, you can talk to, feel safe to, andifs you can talk to, feel safe to, and it's an empty box over there. >> if you've got a knife, you can dump it. >> questions asked. >> no questions asked. >> no questions asked. >> get rid of it for you >> we will get rid of it for you now us on this journey now to help us on this journey as if if you're struggling, >> if you if you're struggling, if hard whatever, >> if you if you're struggling, inill hard whatever, >> if you if you're struggling, inill pay|ard whatever, >> if you if you're struggling, “will pay your whatever, >> if you if you're struggling, “will pay your fare tever, >> if you if you're struggling, “will pay your fare to 'er, i will pay your train fare to get here as well. >> i promise you that. but to help carry on doing if help us carry on doing this, if there's that there's any companies that want to involved, to to get involved, that want to have name the have their their name on the board the wall, get board up here on the wall, get in touch and you can come and sponsor to help us carry on sponsor jim to help us carry on doing this every day. gonna doing this every day. i'm gonna be there well . well i'm be in there as well. well i'm joined in the studio now with businessman and campaigner tom skinner to tom skinner. >> well, that was quite bold of you to come out and offer such a big offer . oh, to about, big offer. oh, talk to me about, um, you you. why why is it that

you would you felt that this would be something should something that you should be telling people to do? >> i just, um , it scares >> i just, i just, um, it scares me, you know? >> so so many people. >> so many so many young people. now, crime rife, now, knife crime is rife, especially london. look, i've especially in london. look, i've been given a platform . yeah, been given a platform. yeah, i've got hundreds of thousands of followers . of followers. >> i own a boxing gym . >> i own a boxing gym. >> i own a boxing gym. >> um, we've got a great team around my partner, jim around us. my partner, jim hewitt, he's fantastic there. hewitt, he's fantastic in there. and try and help. let's and let's try and help. let's see what we can do to help, because of people , they because a lot of people, they carry a knife, you know, like , carry a knife, you know, like, not because they're going to think they're going to use it because they're scared that someone's one someone's going to use one against and i if we against them. and i think if we can people to put the can just get people to put the knives down, let's try and save some lives. i've said much . i'm some lives. i've said much. i'm it's in brentwood in essex by the station . it's 25 minutes and the station. it's 25 minutes and he's flying from london. you can come down here. there's people from all different backgrounds. you to. if you want you can talk to. if you want a bit of support. you're feeling down, is. you down, whatever it is. and if you haven't, get haven't, you can't afford to get to i'll happily pay your to us. i'll happily pay your train fare, know, and you're train fare, you know, and you're safe there. i've also got an

amnesty no , no amnesty box, which no, no judgements, no question asked. you can put your knives, you can get them, get out of get rid of them, get them out of your and there to your life. and we're there to support there to support you. we're there to give you of love we you a bit of love because we need positivity. know need more positivity. we know more world. more love in the world. >> let's what we do >> let's see what we can do and if just save if we if we just save one life, if we help one person, if it helps the world. >> what was your background like and growing up ? was that around, and growing up? was that around, you know , listen, i had a lovely you know, listen, i had a lovely i grew up in romford. >> i had lovely family. >> i had a lovely family. >> i had a lovely family. >> i've worked on the markets since, since i was a i've since, since i was a kid. i've always been a grafter. it's always been a grafter. get it's always listen, knives have always listen, knives have always been around in my life with friends. got with my friends. i've got friends prison now, with my friends. i've got frierknow, prison now, with my friends. i've got frierknow, through prison now, with my friends. i've got frierknow, through knife] now, with my friends. i've got frierknow, through knife crime. you know, through knife crime. right. it just it right. and it just it's so it affects so many people. now i just want to help. i just want to help. that's all i want to do. because. because i feel like there ain't there aren't enough people helping, especially in in politics, in government and there's not enough things going on. >> on. >> so i just thought, let's give it a go . it a go. >> were you doing more than by the of sadiq the sounds of it? sadiq khan because heard because i haven't heard much from at all this

from him at all around this issue and on watch , knife issue and on his watch, knife crime literally risen crime has just literally risen to a frightening level. i think young people, i'm glad . i'm not young people, i'm glad. i'm not young people, i'm glad. i'm not young now, although i lie, i say i'm 21. obviously i'm not. but you know, i would hate to be really now because i think really young now because i think it's scary there for it's quite scary out there for young people. >> london safe >> it's scary. london ain't safe , you know? and i see a video from sadiq khan out i need, i need to get into politics. but he said it's because the he said it's because of the mobile phones and we're working with there's loads of with look, there's loads of other gyms that are doing the same as me. you know, there's loads people out there, loads of good people out there, but we need help from government . you know, we need someone saying, let's stop , let's put an saying, let's stop, let's put an end this. it's frightening end to this. it's frightening how carry knives. you how many kids carry knives. you know, we've had we've had a couple pop into the gym and they ain't they're not a horrible people. they're carrying it because they feel they have to. they feel they need to carry a knife because everyone else is carrying one. like maybe bring back the stop and search. i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know the answers, but

you've safe place in my you've got a safe place in my gym and i think young people need something to do. >> and of course, crime >> and of course, knife crime isn't london, there isn't just london, because there was mostly isn't just london, because there was but mostly isn't just london, because there was but it's mostly isn't just london, because there was but it's all mostly isn't just london, because there was but it's all overmostly isn't just london, because there was but it's all over the tly london, but it's all over the country. it's you're always heanng country. it's you're always hearing of people stabbed. country. it's you're always heait's| of people stabbed. country. it's you're always heait's a»f people stabbed. country. it's you're always heait's a nationwide stabbed. country. it's you're always heait's a nationwide problem. ed. country. it's you're always hea know,|ationwide problem. ed. country. it's you're always hea know,|atain't de problem. ed. country. it's you're always hea know,|atain't de plikezm. ed. you know, it ain't just like it's . it's it's everywhere. it's everywhere. you know, we've got to as a let's try and help our communities. let's look, i'm a very, very small cog in a massive machine. i mean, we can't help everyone, but we will help as many as we can. and you are safe at bosham . are safe at bosham. >> of course. you came to prominence after your appearance on apprentice . uh, you've on the apprentice. uh, you've got a gym and everything else like that. talk to me about the apprentice. and, you know, there's another series up there's another series coming up soon. that help you and soon. how did that help you and what to? what are you up to? >> , i love on the >> oh, i love going on the apprentice. the thing i've >> oh, i love going on the apprdone. the thing i've >> oh, i love going on the apprdone. theknow,:hing i've >> oh, i love going on the apprdone. theknow, um, i've >> oh, i love going on the apprdone. theknow, um, mye >> oh, i love going on the appr done. the know, um, my wife ever done. you know, um, my wife actually to on actually applied me to go on there, i think, nearly five years i on years ago now. and i went on there was selling there and i was selling pillows on the market at time and on the market at the time and went become good went on there, become good friends sugar um, friends with lord sugar. um, done on the show. friends with lord sugar. um, done win on the show. friends with lord sugar. um, done win it, on the show. friends with lord sugar. um, done win it, didn't the show. friends with lord sugar. um, done win it, didn't win show. friends with lord sugar. um, done win it, didn't win it.)w. didn't win it, didn't win it. but from back um, but but from the back of it, um, that's to where

that's how i've got to where i've that's how i've got to where pve you that's how i've got to where i've you know, start i've got to, you know, start doing of tv work and doing lots of tv work and, and it's me build it's helped me build my businesses we've businesses. and we've got several well, several businesses now. well, what so what businesses have you got? so we the beds and the we do obviously the beds and the mattress washes. yeah we do. we do obviously the beds and the mattre got vashes. yeah we do. we do obviously the beds and the mattre got the es. yeah we do. we do obviously the beds and the mattre got the market] we do. we do obviously the beds and the mattre got the market stalls,». we've got the market stalls, bosch we've still got bosch market. we've still got a market stall. yeah, still market stall. yeah, we still cause the cause people talk about the markets dying markets as though they're dying and people like markets. and people don't like markets. i mean, certain markets are dying because things like in local towns, there's nowhere to park. and if you've got parking is expensive, you've expensive, um, you know, you've got presence everywhere, got online presence everywhere, which, help the which, which doesn't help the markets. can get the markets. but you can get the best deals on market. still best deals on the market. still you though of you know, even though lots of markets dying, they're still markets are dying, they're still ones we work on north world markets. busier markets. it's getting busier every they do need every week. so they do need support. um, if you listen , support. um, if you listen, people forget that when you support local businesses, when you high you support your local high street, local markets like the taxis generated by smes, small businesses literally are they are the backbone of the uk. they do the the do pay for the nhs, the roads and keep them going. and to help keep them going. we've got, you know if keep we've got, you know if we keep buying from corporations buying from big corporations that tax abroad, it that offset the tax abroad, it doesn't the economy. we doesn't help the economy. so we doesn't help the economy. so we do support local to keep doesn't help the economy. so we do economprport local to keep doesn't help the economy. so we do economy going local to keep doesn't help the economy. so we do economy going .)cal to keep

the economy going. >> and you're doing very well out as well. you've got out of it as well. you've got a gym that people can come to. and what would you say to what what would you say to somebody budding what what would you say to somebod person budding what what would you say to somebod person that's ding what what would you say to somebod person that's looking what what would you say to sometup,)erson that's looking what what would you say to sometup, especially 's looking what what would you say to sometup, especially inlooking what what would you say to sometup, especially in thising to set up, especially in this particular environment, because the landscape quite the business landscape is quite tough at the moment navigate? tough at the moment to navigate? yeah. listen, businesses yeah. i mean, listen, businesses are, look, mean the are, you know, look, i mean the gym, the gym, we don't listen . gym, the gym, we don't listen. >> we don't we don't make hardly any money out of the gym, to be honest . there's months where we honest. there's months where we don't break even. but we've don't break even. but but we've got work and got it and we work hard. and heanng got it and we work hard. and hearing partner in the gym, got it and we work hard. and he.isng partner in the gym, got it and we work hard. and he.is in partner in the gym, got it and we work hard. and he.is in there artner in the gym, got it and we work hard. and he.is in there every in the gym, got it and we work hard. and he.is in there every single gym, got it and we work hard. and he.is in there every single day, he is in there every single day like clockwork . i'm there as like clockwork. i'm there as much as i can be. obviously i've got loads of other things going on, yeah, are on, but yeah, gyms are businesses are there, things are at got at the moment, but we've got to just keeping and not just keep on keeping on and not give up. >> we've w-a f-ei >> well we've got a little tax cut way today and cut coming our way today and does help at fingers does that help at all? fingers crossed yes. was asking crossed. yes. and i was asking everybody earlier if the tax cuts can save the tories. i know you said you don't get political , is there , but in your view, is there anything the anything that could save the political of the day political party of the day at the moment? >> look after the >> i think just look after the everyday know, look, everyday person, you know, look, look the working look after the working class, look after the working class, look they're look after the people. they're

out there crafting, know, out there crafting, you know, the britain, the backbone of britain, the nurses, doctors , the nurses, the doctors, the delivery drivers, the one man bands, the small businesses they just you know, just look after him, you know, just look after him, you know, just after them and keep just look after them and keep people going people people going and keep people positive. keep people moving forward know, if, forward, you know, because if, when you get down, you feel like the is against you, the world is against you, it's hard carry so just hard to carry on. so we've just got support our got to keep support ing our own and hard. got to keep support ing our own ancyes. hard. got to keep support ing our own ancyes. and hard. got to keep support ing our own ancyes. and sord. got to keep support ing our own ancyes. and so if people do want >> yes. and so if people do want to your gym, you to come down to your gym, you said can come down. said people can come down. >> listen, everyone is welcome . >> listen, everyone is welcome. listen, we're pretty listen, we're we're open pretty much day, know, much every, every day, you know, send me a message on instagram, on twitter . and i've literally on twitter. and i've literally i've in the cab in the i've just in the cab in the black cab out there. was black cab out there. i was getting bars and you're going to be inundated . i sitting be inundated. i was sitting here. doesn't it here. it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter. look listen, i might to get might take a bit of time to get back to you, i'll my back to you, but i'll try my hardest to absolutely everyone. >> find you at work >> so they'll find you at work because said they can call me. >> yeah. my instagram my >> yeah. my instagram and my twitter is. am tom skinner. twitter is. i am tom skinner. >> tom skinner, you definitely are. thank you so much for coming for coming to join me. thank you for that. tom skinner. that. uh, that was tom skinner. he of course, a campaigner. he is, of course, a campaigner. he's businesses he's got his own businesses and apprentice and a business apprentice star and a business man. up to 16

man. right coming up to 16 minutes after 5:00. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. now we're going to discuss in my mini debate about houses, because according to the boss of natwest , who to the boss of natwest, who earns a tidy £764,000 a year, some have said this shows a staggering discontent between her bankers and reality. but he's saying that actually all you have to do to buy a house is just get a deposit. it's that easy. maybe for him. but up next, though, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and , would join great british debate this hour. andarmed , would join great british debate this hour. andarmed forces?/ould join great british debate this hour. andarmed forces? that's join great british debate this hour. andarmed forces? that's onjoin great british debate this hour. andarmed forces? that's on the the armed forces? that's on the

>> news with me michael portillo , gb news britain's news channel i >> -- >> good afternoon. if you just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it'sjust news. we are the people's channel. it's just coming news. we are the people's channel. it'sjust coming up news. we are the people's channel. it's just coming up to 20 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua for now. lots of you have been getting in touch with your emails with regard to my monologue, which i did earlier today on vorderman, today on carol vorderman, barbara carol an barbara says carol is an intelligent who's intelligent woman who's terrified of growing old, displaying her insecurity publicly , lesley says carol publicly, lesley says carol vorderman has taken what shaun bailey said completely out of context . seriously, it's just context. seriously, it's just another way of her trying to cause controversy and to stay relevant in the public eye. and tara said it's so sad to see how far carol has fallen . i used to far carol has fallen. i used to respect her so much, but she now just seems to be willing to say and do anything to stay relevant. well, i'm sure there were some people in support of her. we'll find some of those,

but it's now time for the great british debate this hour, and i'm asking, would you join the armed forces, defence and security are surely the first responsibility of any government , but britain's armed forces are seemingly at breaking point, and its recruitment crisis, the royal navy, have been forced to advertise for a rear admiral to be responsible for the nation's nuclear deterrent. on linkedin , nuclear deterrent. on linkedin, and has so few sailors that it will be forced to decommission two warships so that staff, which is very distressed . which is very distressed. really. right, so. and if it weren't bad enough, the government have been warned that plans to mothball two amphibious assault ships will be the beginning of the end for the royal marines, as it would take away one of the force's central purposes storming beaches from the sea, which is quite important. however, defence secretary grant shapps judges the plans necessary due to a sharp drop in the number of new recruits joining the navy and marines. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm

asking, would you join the armed forces? i'm forces? well, to discuss, i'm joined former british army joined by former british army officer lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, defence analyst and military historian chris newton , also former strategic newton, also former strategic intelligence analyst . to ian intelligence analyst. to ian grant, right. intelligence analyst. to ian grant, right . well, i'm going to grant, right. well, i'm going to start with lieutenant colonel crawford stuart , what do you crawford stuart, what do you think in its current state, would you join the armed forces ? would you join the armed forces? >> i'm sorry, i can't hear. well okay, well, we'll go to . okay, well, we'll go to. >> which shall we go to next? let's go to chris newton, military historian and defence analyst . oh, now we can't hear analyst. oh, now we can't hear you . okay. all right, well, i'll you. okay. all right, well, i'll start with you. and you're in the studio. they can't get that wrong. former strategic intelligence analyst slightly . intelligence analyst slightly. hahaha. would you join the hahaha. ian would you join the armed forces in current state? >> i've never worked in the armed forces as many of armed forces as many members of my family have worked in. or perhaps more importantly with them in marine engineering , them in marine engineering, merchant navy ship building. >> my answer would be no . but

>> my answer would be no. but that's from a selfish point of view. the situation is bad. >> it may get worse . >> it may get worse. >> it may get worse. >> it may get worse. >> it probably will get worse before it gets better, but it's not. >> yeah, yeah, you can hear me. i accidentally pressed right ? i accidentally pressed right? >> right. so. so you think it can be fixed, right. let's go over to, um. let's see if we've got people there. chris newton, military historian, defence analyst were you analyst and also, you were you were had un lieutenant were we've had un lieutenant colonel lieutenant colonel crawford, lieutenant colonel crawford, what are your thoughts? would you join the armed forces now? he's talking, but we can't hear you year to yeah >> we tend to say up here at this time of year, um, the answer is. >> and i've asked this question an awful lot by parents of people, young people. should i join the armed services and my answer tends to be yes. uh, and the reason is that that of all the reason is that that of all the things that i've done in life and i've, you know, i've done university and worked in offices and nationalised industries, the armed services is the one where i found the best home and the best friends.

uh, but i do understand that the prospect of a military career doesn't, uh, appeal to everybody for number of reasons. and so for a number of reasons. and so i would caveat it. and i would say you're unlikely to go wrong if join . the armed services if you join. the armed services for a short period of time, if that's what you want to do. but i'd be very careful about making a really . a full career of it really. >> okay, well, let's go to , um, >> okay, well, let's go to, um, a historian, chris newton . a historian, chris newton. >> um, can you hear me now ? >> um, can you hear me now? >> um, can you hear me now? >> yes. loud and clear. >> um, can you hear me now? >> yes. loud and clear . yeah. >> yes. loud and clear. yeah. >> yes. loud and clear. yeah. >> okay. uh um, so, so basically , i should caveat what i say by saying that, um, i'm a civilian historian , and, um, i, i'm historian, and, um, i, i'm involved peripherally with the armed forces as a civilian academic. um, so i haven't joined myself, but if, um, you were inclined kind to or if i were inclined kind to or if i were inclined kind to or if i were inclined to join the armed forces, i mean, certainly the armed forces is, you know, is a fundamental profession. it . fundamental profession. it. defending the nation is vital is

what we need . um, so, so in that what we need. um, so, so in that sense and, and in terms of the students, my military students that i encounter, you know , that i encounter, you know, extremely capable people . so, so extremely capable people. so, so if you're inclined to do so, then i'd, i'd still recommend doing so . however, there are doing so. however, there are problems with recruitment and retention and there are problems in terms of conditions means in terms of there's been reports of problems with accommodation, problems with accommodation, problems with accommodation, problems with pay, the continuous attitude surveys that the mod publish every year, the latest one states that 47% 42% sorry of the people who were surveyed were satisfied with service life. so there are problems. um, but but we do need people to join the armed forces in order to and in enough numbers to defend the nation . numbers to defend the nation. >> uh, ewan. um, but the point a lot of people are making is that the issue with the armed forces is that they really it doesn't

seem to be very much money in terms of how much the people are being paid . um, some of the being paid. um, some of the equipment is kind of old. and, and there seems to be less and also there seems to be less of a sort of patriot feeling in this country that people actually want to defend it because from what i hear with all the wokery that's about a lot feel that if you lot of people feel that if you are defending or being nationalistic , as it were, that nationalistic, as it were, that you're deemed you're almost deemed to be racist. >> oh well, certainly believe >> oh well, i certainly believe that there's an awful lot of people who are woke, and it's not helping . the morale of not helping. the morale of potential recruits. and indeed those inside. >> i thought the colonel made an excellent point about. yes short tum, maybe not career . tum, maybe not career. >> the um. >> the um. >> but like the professor peter people putting themselves forward, they are extremely impressive young people . impressive young people. >> well, um, so the quality is there. >> there are people who want to do it , but we >> there are people who want to do it, but we need to >> there are people who want to do it , but we need to get the do it, but we need to get the population as a whole more

behind them. >> far fewer people. >> far fewer people. >> now of all generations have . >> now of all generations have. >> now of all generations have. >> i've come into contact with people who have served and one of the morale issues is, of course, is the armed forces are overstretched . well, that's overstretched. well, that's being asked to do too much. >> well, we seem to be supplying our armed forces and our not our personnel, but we seem to be supplying a lot of our weaponry to places, other parts of the world, like ukraine and whatever. but actually, if things were reversed on us, we would be in trouble because we haven't got people and we haven't got people and we haven't got people and we haven't got any. we're getting rid of weapons like there's rid of our weapons like there's no . no tomorrow. >> it's not >> well, of course it's not quite as complex. quite as it is complex. >> i mean, let's be clear. >> ukraine is fighting our battle for europe. well, battle for us in europe. well, some people the well, i've worked in ukraine. >> i can assure i, i know that the poles and the nations of the baltic states certainly see it that way. whether germany does is another thing. and there's a long question there. >> but yes, you're right. >> but yes, you're right. >> this is trying to square the

circle. we have to pay more. >> we have to frankly spend more. >> we also have to spend it better and offer people options through reservist . s. i know through reservist. s. i know this perhaps might be a controversial thing to say now, but . but there controversial thing to say now, but. but there is a controversial thing to say now, but . but there is a great wish. but. but there is a great wish. >> and it's a real wish. >> and it's a real wish. >> it's not just aspiration an to expand the reserves in numbers , but more particularly numbers, but more particularly important and role and israel depends on its survival on reservists not its small regular army . army. >> well if you look at, um, things like, as you mentioned, israel, um, i want to sir is sir is lieutenant colonel crawford still there? stuart um, because if you do look at israel, israel didn't seem to have a proper mobilising troops and getting people on ground. if there people on the ground. if there was forbid, anything was a war, god forbid, anything was a war, god forbid, anything was here. um, do you was to start here. um, do you think we'd any we'd think that we'd have any we'd have problems getting military personnel to be part of the armed forces . armed forces. >> well, i think we would, sadly, because , um, as many, sadly, because, um, as many, many observers and

correspondents have said previously , the british armed previously, the british armed forces are probably at their smallest and least capable level , uh, that they have been for a very, very long time . and that very, very long time. and that appues very, very long time. and that applies to all services . the applies to all services. the army is short of personnel and has disastrous equipment procurement program . which we procurement program. which we don't seem to be able to get on top of the navy's ships that it can't crew because there aren't enough recruitment enough sailors. and recruitment in was down 22% in in the navy was down 22% in 2023, which is really shocking . 2023, which is really shocking. and of course, the raf can't train fast jet pilots for the planes that they don't have. >> so we're in real trouble and we don't have the resilience that defence force that the israeli defence force has in built to the way its armed services are organised. >> and of course , the reason for >> and of course, the reason for that in many ways is that they face a very direct threat all the time , whereas we. the time, whereas we. >> yeah, well that's a good point there. >> enough to have an let's say it, ukraine is fighting a proxy war on behalf of nato and

eastern europe. well okay. >> well, listen, so, so very briefly then it's a yes or no . briefly then it's a yes or no. um, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, would you, um, join . crawford, would you, um, join. the armed forces if you were, if you had to, would you be happy to do that, yes or no? >> yes. personally i would. >> yes. personally i would. >> yeah. chris newton yes or no if i was inclined. >> so yes. >> so yes. >> so yes. >> so that mean you are or >> so does that mean you are or you're not. >> um , personally, no. but if >> um, personally, no. but if i was younger and, you know, inclined to do dangerous stuff younger and you and if you were younger and you and if you were younger , would you join? younger, would you join? >> yes. because they'd only call me if i needed . and, uh, me if i were needed. and, uh, people needed. so the answer people are needed. so the answer is yes . is yes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> all right. well, listen, um, thank you so much uh, thank you so much to you. uh, ewen and also, uh, chris and also , um, and also and also also, um, and also and also lieutenant colonel stuart, stuart crawford. there we go . stuart crawford. there we go. all right, well, let's have a look, a quick look at what you've been saying. uh, on the armed forces, uh, as veteran armed forces, uh, as a veteran and this is from clive as a veteran who is now in a

wheelchair , i would it all wheelchair, i would do it all over again. a great time over again. i had a great time and made great friends and memories. well it. memories. it was well worth it. um, liam says, contrast, um, liam says, in contrast, as a veteran , i would unfortunately veteran, i would unfortunately not join the british army today. it would appear the woke brigade are infiltrating . i mentioned are infiltrating. i mentioned that i'm appalled at the that and i'm appalled at the continuing appalling state of accommodation for both troops and married personnel. yeah, it makes a point as well. i mean, if you as a veteran, don't if you as a veteran, they don't really look after you. and lastly, the tories, simon lastly, on the tories, simon says, because i asked uh, says, because i asked you, uh, could save the could could anything save the tories a long lived tory, tories as a long lived tory, i have lost . all faith in them. have lost. all faith in them. sunak and his party are only just right to keir starmer and are unelectable . well, this are so unelectable. well, this is gb news 31 minutes after 5:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua coming up. we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, would you join the armed forces? you'll hear thoughts of panel. hear the thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy lasalle lizzie cundy and matthew lasalle . first, let's your . but first, let's get your latest . news

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armed forces. >> it gives people >> what a career it gives people direction, purpose and, you know, values and standards know, great values and standards and you're serving your country. nothing is more respectful and loyal and gives you moral and physical courage . but sadly, the physical courage. but sadly, the government has totally let them down in every aspect . let me be down in every aspect. let me be honest, i think , um, illegal honest, i think, um, illegal immigrants get more care than in our armed forces. immigrants get more care than in our armed forces . yes, they our armed forces. yes, they really do. look at, you know, their housing, for instance, and their housing, for instance, and the navy is down at 80% of its target. the army are down at 71. air force are down at 89. we have a real problem . and you have a real problem. and you know who's recruiting because the best people to recruit that those who are in it themselves leaves the navy. absolutely. and those that are in the army themselves to recruit . and we've themselves to recruit. and we've got learn our foreign got to learn our foreign policy has influence without has little influence without credible armed forces. totally. and that is truth of it. and and that is the truth of it. and we're in trouble. and i blame

our government. we haven't looked after them. >> it's successive >> and it's successive governments think you governments. i don't think you can party. can just blame no party. >> absolutely. one of >> absolutely. i mean, one of the is, is there was >> absolutely. i mean, one of tibig is, is there was >> absolutely. i mean, one of tibig problems s, is there was >> absolutely. i mean, one of tibig problems withthere was >> absolutely. i mean, one of tibig problems with housings >> absolutely. i mean, one of tibig problems with housing for a big problems with housing for the a lot of the armed forces. uh, a lot of it was off into a, uh, it was shoved off into a, uh, the private sector, sort of private sector vehicle, which the private sector, sort of privatwere tor vehicle, which the private sector, sort of privatwere tor v of cle, which the private sector, sort of privatwere tor v of complaints there were lots of complaints from people in the forces that the and the maintenance, etc. and i think of it has then think a lot of it has then been brought back in, but it's been a bit of mess at the very least. bit of a mess at the very least. and, know, think what we and, you know, i think what we need is make sure that we need to do is make sure that we give armed a fair give our armed forces a fair deal give our armed forces a fair deal, deal, and pay deal, a fair deal, and pay a fair and fair deal in conditions and a fair deal in conditions and a fair be able to fair deal. would they be able to rise up through the ranks because vital. because it's absolutely vital. it's issue. it's not a left right issue. it's not a left right issue. it's we believe it's you know, we all believe that you know, those that anybody you know, those people on the far left who say, oh, we can't have armed oh, we can't have the armed forces schools or in forces on in schools or in universities recruiting because of woke notion . of some crazy woke woke notion. but in fact, the armed forces are the guarantor of democracy. we've know, not just we've seen, you know, not just in this, you know, for this country's so, uh, country's obviously. so, uh, clearly in the two world wars of the 20th century, but also in conflict the world. so, conflict around the world. so, you , you we need you know, i, you know, we need to that no wokeism

to make sure that no wokeism gets of the armed gets in the way of the armed forces being able to accrue and that people, when they that the people, when they do sign given a deal. sign up are given a fair deal. >> i'm it's already >> well, i'm afraid it's already got it, because got in there, hasn't it, because there there one there was wasn't there one advert raf that was advert for the raf that was looking want looking for they didn't want white only looking for they didn't want white well, only looking for they didn't want white well, i only looking for they didn't want white well, i think only looking for they didn't want white well, i think yeah they wanted. well, i think yeah they shouldn't want shouldn't just, they should want everybody armed everybody to join the armed forces of different backgrounds. >> part of the >> but this is part of the problem it. problem isn't it. >> they're that. so >> they're doing that. so they're people. they're excluding people. and in the end people think, well forget be bothered forget it. i can't be bothered with this. >> but i mean, we've got extraordinary tough words from cameron our armed forces by reduction of our armed forces by hundreds of thousands. and look , hundreds of thousands. and look, we need we need 100,000 to make an army. and now we've got 70,000. it wouldn't even feel twickenham, you know, rugby stadium. i mean, that is that's truth of it. absolutely and i think that's what's so frightening. >> i think it's all the chopping and changing as well. suddenly when as know, when politicians, as you know, when politicians, as you know, when on the when things are quiet on the international think, international front, they think, oh, another 10,000 oh, let's take another 10,000 people the armed forces people out of the armed forces and when up, and then when it hots up, it's like, a, know , like, let's have a, you know, 10,000. can't it or 10,000. you can't turn it on or off. if they're

off. people need to if they're going their country, going to serve their country, they want to over a they want to serve over a prolonged period. wants to be prolonged period. it wants to be know that it's going to be a steady there's steady career and there's going to opportunity to be opportunity for progression. you're cutting progression. if you're cutting people out and you're, you know, that makes it a mess. so we need steady leadership of our armed forces have forces to make sure that we have people we can call on. >> the thing is, and i work >> the sad thing is, and i work a back on track for the a lot for back on track for the charity and the and the veterans aren't looked after, you know that they are, army, that who they are, the army, their equipment, that who they are, the army, their equipment , they don't even their equipment, they don't even get right equipment . the get the right equipment. the money in money hasn't been put in the care , you know, and they should care, you know, and they should be looked after the most. and it's disgusting because they're looking it's disgusting because they're loo absolutely . but listen, this >> absolutely. but listen, this show's without show's nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice. their opportunity the show, opportunity to be on the show, to us they think about to tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing today. got four you. today. i've got four of you. yeah. right. as start yeah. on right. as we start with, go julie ford in with, let's go to julie ford in bedfordshire. julie would you be in armed if they in the armed forces if they called go ? called you up? would you go? >> um, i'd probably say no. >> um, i'd probably say no. >> now, at my age, i'm coming up to 50, and i don't know whether i'd be much to the army, to i'd be much use to the army, to be with you. um, but be honest with you. um, but certainly when i was younger.

absolutely. army absolutely. i was in the army cadets a kid, and it cadets when i was a kid, and it was aspired was something that i aspired to. >> the problem we >> um, i think the problem we have there's a generation have now is there's a generation thatis have now is there's a generation that is so convinced that connectivity is their survival , connectivity is their survival, and they're attached to their phones. >> you can't do that when you're in the military. but then on the plus side of that, i think if we brought back national service and a couple of and forced for a couple of years, you know, everybody to have to join, i think in the long terme that would actually resolve more issues than it created that that was the question, really, should question, really, i should have asked back asked should we bring back national we national service because we really running out of numbers. >> to swerve the >> so i'm going to swerve the question and change question now and change it to that. question now and change it to that . julie, thank you for that. that. julie, thank you for that. yes she doesn't you yes and she doesn't look 50. you don't julie. don't look 50 at all julie. you're fabulous must don't look 50 at all julie. you' right. fabulous must don't look 50 at all julie. you' right. let'sabulous must don't look 50 at all julie. you' right. let's go lous must don't look 50 at all julie. you' right. let's go to s must don't look 50 at all julie. you' right. let's go to jonathan say. right. let's go to jonathan jones in cornwall . jones in cornwall. >> i know i've just been making a special point benevolent fund and those were proper old soldiers. >> none of this wokery. and i think that's the big problem is too much. wokery. so you go and look at the armed forces in countries that we might be fighting against quite sobering. we more tea

we need to drink a lot more tea and recruiting. and get recruiting. >> , in israel they don't. >> well, in israel they don't. they have a national service or some have some of these places have national people get national service people get a real their country real affinity to their country and a sort of loyalty. and and a real sort of loyalty. and i think we need more of that because you said, julie, because like you said, julie, they're attached to their phones. . it's been they're attached to their phones. in . it's been they're attached to their phones. in grimsby. . it's been they're attached to their phones. in grimsby. alant's been they're attached to their phones. in grimsby. alan nanaan a while in grimsby. alan nana yeah. what about you? >> what do you think? yeah. >> what do you think? yeah. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. >> what do you want to know what i would i join the armed forces. >> yeah. would you. yeah i've been there done that. >> t shirt nana. >> and had the t shirt nana. >> and had the t shirt nana. >> be yes. >> so the answer would be yes. would join today's armed forces? >> yeah, i might have to think about it now because it's a different , uh, generation. shall different, uh, generation. shall we say, different minds set. i see a lot of what's going on in the military being very, very negative . negative. >> and that's both from the government but from the structures that they've put in place , the things that the place, the things that the military used to do, whether it's housing, recruitment, everything else. >> listen, your audio is difficult to hear. you. um, so

we'll have to move on. but alan, sort that out because it's not usually like that. all right. let's go cook london. let's go to alan cook in london. alan you join today's alan would you join today's armed ? armed forces? >> hiya, nana. >> hiya, nana. >> and happy new year. >> and happy new year. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. >> my father was in the fleet air arm. >> he did a couple of world tours ark royal. tours on the ark royal. >> he . he met tours on the ark royal. >> he. he met my tours on the ark royal. >> he . he met my mother. >> he. he met my mother. >> he. he met my mother. >> uh, culdrose, naval base in cornwall. >> she was in the wrens . >> she was in the wrens. >> she was in the wrens. >> so it's in my family. i never joined , but my mother did joined, but my mother did actually do the old raf advert on tv before they went . whoa. on tv before they went. whoa. >> oh, really ? >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> i wasn't dealing with, uh, she had an honorary rank of wing commander . commander. >> oh. oh. very good. so would you join them then? in today's situation ? situation? >> well, no, because they're not being looked after. >> the ex—servicemen aren't being after for all the being looked after for all the priorities are wrong. they've always had problems with kit and equipment it's worse equipment, but now it's worse

because the epidemic of wokeness is actually into the army . is actually into the army. >> i have some friends very precarious bodies, and they're all complaining about it. >> well, listen, your audio is not great either, so i'm going to have to thank you. but thank you so much. julie ford in bedfordshire, jonathan jones in cornwall, in cornwall, alan mcneely in grimsby cook london. grimsby and alan cook in london. thank very much. right well thank you very much. right well what are thoughts. keep what are your thoughts. keep them will read some of them coming. i will read some of those towards end. those emails towards the end. but to a story but let's moving on to a story that my yesterday that caught my eye yesterday because i couldn't resist this one. natwest one. the chairman of natwest west claimed that it is not that difficult property difficult to get on the property ladderin difficult to get on the property ladder in uk. so how would ladder in the uk. so how would davies, who i thought he was going go, he still on? going to go, why is he still on? he he's on. he should have, he's on. >> coming to the end. >> yeah, he's coming to the end. >> yeah, he's coming to the end. >> coming end with >> he's coming to the end with his was massive pension. his pension was massive pension. has tell little. >> he's mr establishment. >> he's mr establishment. >> not difficult >> yeah. it's not that difficult to housing ladder. >> yeah. it's not that difficult to think housing ladder. >> yeah. it's not that difficult to think iknowsi ladder. >> yeah. it's not that difficult to think iknows whater. >> yeah. it's not that difficult to think iknows what he's don't think he knows what he's talking because he talking about. um because he said just have said people will just have to save with what? with what? save more with what? with what? howard, i don't think that it's that difficult at the moment. this is what says. it comes this is what he says. it comes after research found that home ownership britain fell from

ownership in britain fell from 71% to 65% between 2004 and 2021, and of course , partly due 2021, and of course, partly due to soaring house prices . and to soaring house prices. and this research from the halifax on friday said that average property values have increased . property values have increased. by 1.7% in 2023, with the typical home valued uh, £4,800 higher at the end of 2022. so my panel higher at the end of 2022. so my panel, i want to ask you both, is it easy to get on the housing market? and is howard right? well as out of touch as you get, don't you think so? >> out of touch with reality? >> out of touch with reality? >> how is this guy still in a job? >> well, he won't be, but i am calling for. >> honestly, i don't want anyone to get the sack , but he has to to get the sack, but he has to go talk about how tone deaf, isn't it? do you know what the first now ? um, it first time buyer now? um, it they they've 32 years old and they they've 32 years old and they go to the bank of mum and dad . it is so difficult to get dad. it is so difficult to get on the housing ladder. he hasn't got scooby doo. got a scooby doo. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> well, he's got a lot of money, though. >> he certainly has. i imagine

that the, the children of howard davies haven't struggled get davies haven't struggled to get on because on the property ladder because the bank and dad is quite the bank of mum and dad is quite a substantial so i a substantial bank. um, so i mean, how utterly deaf and a substantial bank. um, so i mea insensitive rly deaf and a substantial bank. um, so i mea insensitive rly millionsif and a substantial bank. um, so i mea insensitive rly millions of nd how insensitive to millions of natwest customers natwest has a pretty poor interest rates. i have my current account with them, but i don't put any of my savings them because savings with them because the interest rates are so are so p00h interest rates are so are so poor. you it's just poor. and, you know, it's just it just shows the difference between if young between generations. if young people are as lizzie says, people who are as lizzie says, the somebody the average age of somebody able to time is to be a first time buyer is going and up every, you know, going up and up every, you know, every goes notch. every year it goes up a notch. it's just just how out it's just it just shows how out of establishment is of touch the establishment is with reality, particularly for people from younger generations. >> property i >> yeah, but the uk property i mean, over mean, it's over. well over £200,000 to buy, you know, to look, to buy a house, i mean, let alone more in london. yeah. way more and you've got to give at least 10% in at least 20 grand and you have the running of the house itself of the, of the house itself with council costs. council tax, high energy costs. you've got the high cost of living stuff . jvt is on a huge living stuff. jvt is on a huge wage, you know , having run wage, you know, having run various organisations like the

cbi back in the day. >> and i just think it's extraordinary that he's in this job. he would have had a media coach a whole press coach and there's a whole press team yet he's team at natwest and yet he's still managed to just say something as well, something as daft as that. well, you he's detached. >> got clue what the >> he hasn't got a clue what the rest are going through. >> he hasn't got a clue what the restbut are going through. >> he hasn't got a clue what the restbut i are going through. >> he hasn't got a clue what the restbut i don'tjoing through. >> he hasn't got a clue what the restbut i don't understand h. >> but i don't understand why he's job after all. he's still in a job after all. the de—banking bank and what he actually nigel farage actually did to nigel farage this bank. um, they, you know, no one should take them seriously, i'm afraid. well their reputation. now, i've told their reputation. now, i've told the bank. >> me now we have about. well, they'll probably do it on me, but will look forward to that but i will look forward to that one. you. one. oh, i don't think you. i don't think, i don't think don't think, dad. i don't think you because you me you should, because you and me will talking thing. because i will be talking thing. because i don't think so. i'm a good person. just have certain person. i just have certain views might not views that you might not agree with. probably agree with. but i probably don't agree with. but i probably don't agree with either. so if with you either. right. so if you're welcome. you're just tuned in, welcome. but time for the quick but now it's time for the quick quiz the show. first of quiz part of the show. first of the year. well, i test my panel on some of the other stories hitting the headlines right now. i've drawn. i'm joined by broadcaster columnist lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer please, lizzie and former labour

lizzie. and also former labour adviser matthew. last year buzzer please. fabulous and please play along at home. right question one which doctor who actor has been announced as the host of the next month's bafta film awards? is it a matt smith b david tennant or c christopher eccleston, lizzie cundy, b. david tennant, david tennant and you press your buzzer. >> i did, i'm going to go matt smith, matt smith what's that one? >> was that a the answer is b what did you say? lizzie what was b lizzie was. so they need to put the name there. they've just gone b david tennant thank you so that's one point to you lizzie cundy yes david tennant everyone that been everyone knows that i've been away a few weeks. she's been away. >> you you quicker away. » you you >> you you were quicker off the buzzer. thought buzzer. i actually thought it was tennant. buzzer. i actually thought it wasbroughtennant. buzzer. i actually thought it wasbrought him nt. buzzer. i actually thought it wasbrought him back, haven't >> brought him back, haven't they? brought back >> brought him back, haven't they? he brought back >> brought him back, haven't they? he was rought back >> brought him back, haven't they? he was theiht back >> brought him back, haven't they? he was theiht the back >> brought him back, haven't they? he was theiht the in ack >> brought him back, haven't they? he was theiht the in the after he was the in the in the special after went on a special after they went on a journey woke. journey of woke. >> but weren't very woke. journey of woke. >> wasn't weren't very woke. journey of woke. >> wasn't darling. very woke. he wasn't a darling. >> to reflect

>> it's nice to reflect diversity non—binary diversity a non non—binary binary up. binary darling made that up. >> that non—binary. >> they made that up non—binary. i'm . you're >> they made that up non—binary. i'm .you're either male or i'm sorry. you're either male or female. you're like aware female. you're not like aware i'm non—binary. >> what did i have lots of? lovely non—binary friends. >> just people, >> well, they're just people, aren't or aren't they either male or female, so next female, but. right. so next question. did sir keir question. what did sir keir starmer accused? rishi sunak of doing after the prime minister suggested that could not call suggested that he could not call an till the second half an election till the second half of the year? it a staying of the year? was it a staying into so that you get free into power so that you get free tickets games at euro tickets to england games at euro 2024? delaying certain defeats 2024? b delaying certain defeats so he could have a nice summer holiday, or c squatting in. >> i've not finished b both burst. >> well, that's not a good answer, is it? no. squatting in downing street . dragon matthew downing street. dragon matthew laza c squatting in downing street. >> it is squatting in downing street. >> it is true. indeed. the answer is c squatting in downing street. well, squat is right. yes. well they've got more rights than people who don't squat right. this saturday is typically question three. this saturday is typically the most popular day of the year for britons book a holiday, but britons to book a holiday, but which does the travel

which nickname does the travel industry . to refer to the industry use. to refer to the day? is it a sunshine saturday b jetset jamboree or c passport party day? oh, i think that was lizzie cundy. >> i've got to go a sunshine >> i've got to go for a sunshine saturday, sunshine saturday i was sunshine . was going to sunshine sunshine. as well. >> i can't say it, but i'm going to go for it. >> why do you know the answer? >> why do you know the answer? >> no, actually i don't the >> no, actually i don't take the same i go for same one because i will go for c passport party day, which i don't that doesn't sound don't think that doesn't sound to like it is. don't think that doesn't sound to theike it is.is sunshine >> the answer is a sunshine saturday. lizzie saturday. you are right. lizzie was wrong. lizzie was right. yeah. >> you see, i've just come from the sunshine. >> two one so far. >> yeah, that's two one so far. lizzie question >> yeah, that's two one so far. lizzie much question >> yeah, that's two one so far. lizzie much didluestion >> yeah, that's two one so far. lizzie much did the ;tion >> yeah, that's two one so far. lizzie much did the mayor of four. how much did the mayor of london's new year fireworks cost? um, what do you think chris gunter wins three matthew laza for people to go. how much doesit laza for people to go. how much does it cost? >> i don't know, free. >> i don't know, free. >> free. you're saying free? let's see if you're right. oh, it was actually. oh, actually . it was actually. oh, actually. it was option no. i wasn't going to give you the option. i didn't want to give you the options. i

wasn't going to. making you guess. >> you're very firm today. nana the answer. >> closest >> that's why i said closest answer about answer wins. it's about £2 million. were cheating million. but you were cheating because you read the. >> we both did cheat. they're basically. >> i have i have got jet lag. i've just got off a plane and i was just, you know, i'm just cheating is cheating that if that is disgusting another disgusting and that is another reason can't reason why you can't good pubuchy publicity for london. >> big bit. that the mayor >> big bit. that said the mayor of anyway, of london didn't he. anyway, final question. question five what claim she what did one woman claim she found her spoon found rocking out in her spoon earlier this week? it earlier this week? was it a rocking christmas tree? b freddie mercury or c a baby in a manger? uh i think it's matthew laza b freddie mercury , freddie laza b freddie mercury, freddie mercury, lizzie cundy, freddie mercury, lizzie cundy, freddie mercury, freddie mercury, the answer is freddie so mercury, freddie mercury, the ans'winner'reddie so mercury, freddie mercury, the ans'winner isjdie so mercury, freddie mercury, the ans'winner is a ie so mercury, freddie mercury, the ans'winner is a draw. so mercury, freddie mercury, the ans'winner is a draw. it's so the winner is a draw. it's a draw. it's a draw. >> i think i picked it okay, well very good. >> well, if he did kwasi like you. >> well i'm good at maths. >> well i'm good at maths. >> you are good at maths , right. >> you are good at maths, right. well that's it on today's show, i've asking , can tax cuts i've been asking, can tax cuts save tories? according save the tories? according to our 17.8% of you our twitter poll, 17.8% of you say yes. 82.2% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel author and also co—host of

outside broadcast economist. you are, aren't you? i have many things and also former labour party adviser matthew lala, thank you very much. >> pleasure. >> always a pleasure. >> always a pleasure. >> very much. and huge >> thank you very much. and huge thank you at home for thank you to you at home for your company. look forward your company. uh, i look forward to tomorrow. where to seeing you tomorrow. where i'm joined christine hamilton i'm joined by christine hamilton and you and danny kelly. i'll leave you with have with the weather. have a fabulous night. fabulous evening. good night. >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. it is looking largely dry as high pressure builds in, but we will see frost andice builds in, but we will see frost and ice and fog at night—time and ice and fog at night—time and temperatures falling well below freezing. we can see on the pressure pattern, high pressure building through the rest weekend the rest of the weekend into the beginning keen beginning of next week. keen easterly breeze developing across southern counties later for now into the evening time still a westie split. cloudier skies towards eastern england. some showers for north some wintry showers for north east england for a time. two

rain affecting shetland but rain also affecting shetland but clearing elsewhere and clearing skies elsewhere and with recent heavy rain we'll see some icy stretches developing , some icy stretches developing, particularly across the north and the some and fog and the west. some mist and fog patches too, as temperatures drop below freezing. just staying a little where staying a little bit above where we keep a bit more cloud into sunday morning. but a bright start for many. cold fog, slow to clear across parts of northern ireland into scotland, but plenty of sunshine here by the afternoon. most places dry breeze increasing as we move through the afternoon across south—east england. here we could see 1 2 wintry showers could see 1 or 2 wintry showers and also across the pennines we could see and the north york moors we could see 1 or 2 wintry showers, temperatures on the cold side, to celsius for cold side, 4 to 5 celsius for many into beginning of next many into the beginning of next week. very cold again. frost and fog and to start the day. fog and ice to start the day. most places dry, but that easterly wind increasing as we move through the day in the next few stays very similar few days it stays very similar with high pressure keeping it dry, but on the cold side that warm feeling inside from boxt

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