it comes as the come clean. it comes as the conservative leader faces a growing battle over his flagship plan, with the former immigration minister threatening to vote it down unless changes are made. the bill has passed its second reading in the commons, but robert jenrick abstained from that vote, claiming it wouldn't succeed in its current form . it's being its current form. it's being reported that rishi sunak's new pensions minister is being investigated for breaching expenses rules , according to the expenses rules, according to the times, paul maynard used more than £100,000 of taxpayers to money promote the conservative party and his own re—election. the amount appears to have been spent on printing stationery and rent , among spent on printing stationery and rent, among other things. the allegations came to light after allegations came to light after a local conservative member raised concerns . the mp for raised concerns. the mp for blackpool north has denied any wrongdoing . the chancellor says wrongdoing. the chancellor says that he's not sure if the government can afford to offer voters any more tax cuts before the next election. a 2% reduction in national insurance came into force today , which

came into force today, which jeremy hunt claims will benefit 27 million people and save the average family. with two earners nearly £1,000 this year. however the government has frozen the income tax threshold, which has pushed many into higher brackets. that's offset the benefit of the national insurance cut. the chancellor admits that further cuts are unlikely . unlikely. >> was right to support families through covid and through the cost of living crisis. and yes, taxes had to go up in that penod. taxes had to go up in that period . but we are period. but we are a conservative government that wants to bring down taxes because we recognise that families are finding life really tough. it's the start of a process . as chancellor, if i can process. as chancellor, if i can afford to go further, i will. i don't yet know if i can, but we want to do this because it helps families and it's also helps to grow the economy as well. >> we've heard today that russia has used north korean ballistic missiles in ukraine for the first time. that's according to an independent weapons expert . an independent weapons expert. the united states has described

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time for headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners. your first look at sunday's newspapers with me simon evans joining me tonight. cool as a cucumber steve and alan and a bag of wasabi nuts at lewis schaffer. >> they're implying that you're not cool lewis. i suppose are. >> i make people pot, i guess because that's what a wasabi nut does , right.7 does, right.7 >> you make people watch pot. pot >> oh, hot pot. yeah. >> oh, hot pot. yeah. >> i'm wasabi nut is cool. >> i'm wasabi nut is cool. >> yeah, well, it's exotic, whereas i guess steve has been presented as a somewhat sort of tame english herbivore. >> yeah , yeah, but one of them's >> yeah, yeah, but one of them's going to make you throw up if you have too much of it and have a guess which one that is. >> it depends whether you >> well, it depends whether you try it down and try and thrust it down and sliced, suppose. sliced, i suppose. >> probably. >> probably. >> anyway, i'm off on a completely different tack. >> kick off >> mail on sunday to kick off our pages. our front pages. >> have told ghislaine

>> we have caught told ghislaine i'm still never entirely sure how to pronounce her name . i how to pronounce her name. i find emails on andrew sex toy. uh observer qi covid inquire re report creates election date headache for prime minister. the sunday telegraph sunak i'll cut tax by kerbing welfare the sunday mirror. prince andrew i am going nowhere and the sunday express . £500 million boat gangs express. £500 million boat gangs huge profit out of misery . the huge profit out of misery. the daily star, meanwhile bringing us back to the boffins . darts us back to the boffins. darts are turning us into einsteins. and those were your front pages . and those were your front pages. so steve, we will begin with the sunday times. they go with post office. fury intensifies . and office. fury intensifies. and this is not to do with queues or the fact that they shut down the

little cashiers when you try and get lunchtime. get served at lunchtime. >> that's what the headline would about in the old would have been about in the old days. talking days. but now we're talking about the scandal with the honzon about the scandal with the horizon people horizon software and the people who were accused of things found guilty before guilty of things, died before this, effectively being exonerated . exonerated. >> um, so growing pressure for all be all sub postmasters to be cleared . um, there's a lesson cleared. um, there's a lesson here is that if you want any sort of justice in this modern day uk, you've got to have an itv show made about you, because we knew all of this four part drama exactly. a three parter wouldn't any but wouldn't clear any names but a four part, uh, there were some good acting in it and it's. yes look, clearly what happened was shocking . the way it was handled shocking. the way it was handled was shocking. fact that was shocking. the fact that anything could get us talking about shocking. mm about ed davey is shocking. mm um, the bigger worry um, but i think the bigger worry here is that who knows what other scandals are happening. somebody's been tenacious with this one, haven't they? uh, a number deserve number of titles deserve a degree of credit. think. degree of credit. i think. private eye. are thought private eye. are widely thought to among the more to have been among the more bulldog. speaking titles as bulldog. speaking of titles as well, title needs to go. and well, one title needs to go. and this cbe. the cbe that

this is the cbe. the cbe that uh, reynolds has got is a petition, as has been . people petition, as has been. people are signing it. it's over 70 760,000 people are saying that she should at least at least lose the cbe . i mean, it is very lose the cbe. i mean, it is very sad. lewis, what do if you've been following it, do you have any sort of emotional. >> i haven't been on, but i think i should have. it's one of those stories. it's the most horrific story , one of the most horrific story, one of the most horrific. i don't know why it affects me so much because so , affects me so much because so, so people were were their so many people were were their lives were destroyed. and you know what it is? it's because throughout our lives, my life, it's not just here in england. people you think deserve people who who you think deserve respect, like this woman who got the cbe, the head of the post office. you think they can't be lying such liars . lying, but they're such liars. and this and it's not just i think also there must be inherent racism in this because they were the sun post postal postmasters. me well, i think it's the other way around. >> i don't see this story and 90, >> i don't see this story and go, i shouldn't trust anyone with it hits

with the cbe. the reason it hits you in the heartstrings is because you could innocently go about job, doing best, about your job, doing your best, and happen and look what can happen to your life. story the life. there was a story of the bloke who, his daughter was bloke who, um, his daughter was spat at in the local community because reputation because your reputation was ruined i mean, ruined in the community. i mean, the well is ruined in the community. i mean, the mob well is ruined in the community. i mean, the mob justice well is ruined in the community. i mean, the mob justice is well is ruined in the community. i mean, the mob justice is absolutely. that mob justice is absolutely. we and one last we did. and we did one last night, didn't we? about this chap who, um, whose name chap who, um, whose whose name was racist was besmirched after the racist training wrong. but training thing went wrong. but i mean , a number these people, mean, a number of these people, the evidence suggests, actually committed suicide because they felt like their , their, their felt so like their, their, their reputation, standing in reputation, their standing in the community. but there was feel they were a of feel like they were a kind of breed of people that had a particular decency particular respect for decency and honour. i think that's why it's so hard. but why this happened before i arrived . happened before i arrived. >> and i've seen this happen in this same this country. the same thing happened with the, um, with not the same thing with hsbc , the same thing with the hsbc, the same thing with the hsbc, the ppe thing. >> we're going to have to move on. lewis i'm afraid. but we're going to have a look at the mirror. uh, prince andrew, uh, prince andrew and this is in the mirror. >> this is a this is this is

basically the big news. prince andrew. i'm going nowhere. duke to resist. attempt to kick him out mansion, which is out of his mansion, which is called the royal lodge. 330 rooms and let's head bedrooms. and this is this is a fallout because they've released documents from the american court case about jeffrey epstein and i know what you're thinking. i do look like him because he's a very handsome man. and i hope to jeffrey epstein in the to play jeffrey epstein in the crown . uh, seasons, season seven crown. uh, seasons, season seven jeffrey epstein was notorious for doing his research . for doing his research. >> i don't know if you're aware of that, but i just mentioned it. i will just say, i mean, i think this is maybe me going out on a bit of a limb here. louis and you might end up looking like the sane one here, but i think what's interesting about this, information this, no new information has emerged andrew's emerged about prince andrew's connection with jeffrey. no new information importance. information of any importance. maybe massages maybe you had more massages or whatever. that had whatever. we know that he had this was frolicking this kind of. he was frolicking with some them with girls. some of them technically it's not technically underage. it's not the big story. the main story has to be the extent to which jeffrey epstein's operation

compromised. american security compromised. american security compromised british security compromised british security compromised the, uh, security of various high ranking scientists and the work they were doing that may or may not have been connected with nasa or the defence and that's all being kind of ignored . and in pursuit kind of ignored. and in pursuit of a sort of 1970s style naughty vicar kind of angle to the whole thing. should prince andrew get to stay his . i thing. should prince andrew get to stay his. i find this to stay in his. i find this vaguely and a little vaguely infuriating and a little bit sinister, to be honest, but you about that. you are right about that. >> there is a very big story. this jeffrey epstein guy is he is like moriarty. he is sherlock holmes . and in terms of evilness holmes. and in terms of evilness and this got his fingers in all the parts. but this story here, why they're focusing on prince andrew. because what they do with the royal family here is they're always trying to pit one against other. they say, you against the other. they say, you know what? don't like charles know what? we don't like charles that look at that much. but look at how horrible andrew is. don't horrible andrew is. we don't like william that much, but look at horrible harry is. and at how horrible harry is. and that's how they stay power that's how they stay in power when is, the royal

when the truth is, the royal family worst thing about family is the worst thing about this country. >> what about sunday >> what about the sunday express? what have you got? there go with £500 million. there they go with £500 million. boat gangs, huge profit out of misery and it's a big figure. no one's surprised that it's a big figure because they're exploiting people. no one, no one likes this happening . and one likes this happening. and just to be clear, these are the small are the guys small boats. these are the guys who to get across the who you pay to get across the channel. yeah. the people traffickers. yeah. and i suppose also or is also across the middle. or is this this is this a different this is specifically calais is it. this a different this is spe

much some solution much money. some solution is needed have the needed now. we just have the argument what and we'll argument about what and we'll get it. but get no closer to it. but i suppose moral, suppose it supports the moral, or morale of those or rather the morale of those people who want to see it stopped reasons, stopped for their own reasons, myself is that myself included, which is that we to protect the integrity we want to protect the integrity of the nation. will you stop of the nation. and will you stop any yeah. funnily any coast as well? yeah. funnily enough, seen any come enough, i've never seen any come up, it's a rubbish beach. up, but it's a rubbish beach. brighton, protects brighton, i think that protects us.the brighton, i think that protects us. the very fact that it's all shingle, let's shingle, it's very pebbly. let's very quickly have a look at the star. lois got 50s on this daughter turning us into einstein's. >> it says it's basically based on that ugly old. that 16 year old. i called him old. that 16 year old guy who's darth year old guy who's the darth champion. and there's to champion. and there's an ugly to the is what you're. when the guy. is what you're. when you look that older, you're 16. that's a hard life. that's a bad sign. a hard life. it's bad sign. but the truth it's a bad sign. but the truth is, is because he's sitting there, have to sit there and there, you have to sit there and do three, do 20 times, 20 times three, whatever the math that whatever it is, the math that they the last thing. they do, it's the last thing. >> longer have old >> now we no longer have old money. the last thing in money. it's the last thing in the working class expected the working class are expected to maths. exact. to do any maths. exact. >> does that make. they to do any maths. exact. >> talk does that make. they to do any maths. exact. >> talk about. that make. they can talk about. >> somebody talked about >> well somebody talked about him. um he went for what

him. he had um he went for what was it. uh, double 16. no 16, double ten. because he double ten. uh, because he was trying could trying to get 36 and he could have gone double. i think i'm getting he could getting this right. he could have double he's so have gone double 18, but he's so he's of double ten to he's so fond of double ten to finish. and is is the finish. and this is this is the sort of calculations people make sitting which is rare. sitting at home, which is rare. it's true. you know, if you're watching strictly, you have watching strictly, all you have to add four single to do is add up four single digit numbers and very easily. usually there are only 1 or 2 of ten, you know. >> does that make him smart >> but does that make him smart and to hang out with? >> not necessarily. einstein i would good at would say not that good at numbers. wouldn't still numbers. he wouldn't be still saying he would be able saying he's16. he would be able to confront the hmrc with a bit more confidence. anyway, that's the front page is shown coming up earth has not anything to show more fair would he be show more fair dull. would he be of who by of soul who could pass by a sight so touching in its majesty? we have the latest from westminster bridge. see you

news radio show. >> and welcome back to headliners i'm simon evans, still joined by steve and alan and lewis schaffer. steve, we have the observer now the 6th of january, 2024, but we're already watching 2023. read runs. it speaks to the protests. >> yeah , you might have missed >> yeah, you might have missed them before. >> there's another one hundreds block bridge and block off westminster bridge and call for gaza ceasefire. it's a shame that boris never got that garden bridge, because i reckon they'd probably block off that. it nice to see. or it would be nice to see. or indeed water cannon the. indeed his water cannon on the. yeah, illegal use them over yeah, illegal to use them over here. yeah. what poet here. yeah. what a great poet who are illegal

who buys things that are illegal to yeah. everyone who's to use. oh, yeah. everyone who's got an excuse. but if it's got an excuse. yeah, but if it's illegal them here. illegal to use them here. but it's illegal use in it's not illegal to use them in gaza, that not, like, make gaza, would that not, like, make it white? yeah. hundreds it white? yeah. so hundreds of protesters, for protesters, they called for a ceasefire. i will be the first to defend everyone's right to protest. i'll also be the first to defend people's right to criticise yeah. criticise the protest. yeah. it's we're extinction it's like we're post extinction rebellion protest has to rebellion that a protest has to impede every day. people's going about london. do you have to? because that's not going to get you close to your goal. just because some driver can't because some lorry driver can't do not going to do something is not going to achieve so the achieve anything. so the demonstration free demonstration organised by free palestine coalition, calls for a ceasefire. an end of the ceasefire. also an end of the israeli occupation . you want to israeli occupation. you want to have the discussion, have the discussion traffic discussion but stopping traffic ain't going to it. they ain't going to solve it. they did, part a sit on the did, in part a sit in on the bndge did, in part a sit in on the bridge and then some staged a die in, which is where you lie down. did think that's quite down. i did think that's quite a step . sitting is step up of title. sitting is a sit in, but lying down is a dying. otherwise you couldn't call it a line. no, i suppose that would imply they were just enjoying themselves and being lazy it's actually high

lazy when it's actually a high level of commitment. didn't even set i don't mind set there. i mean, i don't mind them in them doing it every once in a while. i don't want them to do it. you know? i find them tiresome, but there's a uncomfortable feeling this is going to become a weekly event, isn't just they're isn't it? this is just they're starting certain starting to build up a certain rhythm now, which is just unacceptable. met, unacceptable. and the met, i think, consent, seem think, by common consent, seem to either conceded or to have either conceded or i mean, if they go in hard enough to it next time, it's to clear it next time, it's going to appear they've going to appear like they've come out of nowhere. >> , um, i mean, the sad >> well, um, i mean, the sad part about is it's only part about it is it's only hundreds people who are hundreds of people who are demonstrating and it started off with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands even, and so you think it's petering out now? it might be petering out. i think people i actually feel bad. i mean, you know, people know where my side of this thing is on. it's not it's not on on this side. but you feel bad for them that they don't, that they don't have the support of the people. >> well, i don't i want that support to peter out. that's the sort of natural tendency i do . sort of natural tendency i do. >> but i'm saying i'm i'm putting myself in their shoes

because i'm a decent , lovely because i'm a decent, lovely quy- because i'm a decent, lovely guy. yeah, but to be fair, they don't have suella publicising it anymore. >> so who's to turn up? that is true . yeah. they're longer true. yeah. they're no longer being of hate. being branded the march of hate. louis by the sunday telegraph. the ever thorny question of who should policing demos in should pay for policing demos in this case. >> yeah, well , this palestine >> yeah, well, this is palestine protest organisation organiser should policing . and should pay for policing. and basically this guy matt twist, who's the assistant commissioner of metropolitan police, is of the metropolitan police, is saying these saying it's cost all these demonstrators are cost £20 million over. but it's probably not costing that much in the same now. it's kind of same degree now. so it's kind of a point. but it has cost a moot point. but it has cost the met thing . and steve said the met thing. and steve said something interesting. he defends right to protest. defends the right to protest. and i'm going to make a case here, which is think if you're here, which is i think if you're not a citizen of this country, you have no right to demonstrate on political foreign policy. >> these people are by and large citizens, aren't they? or at least there's no by and large, yes, they're by and large, but a lot of them aren't. >> and i think that they and i

think that that if they arrested people have a right, people who do not have a right, if you live in a community very hard determine march, hard to determine on a march, though, wouldn't it ? though, wouldn't it? >> yeah, i think it's >> who was? yeah, i think it's my second good point of the day, and to more and i've never like to do more than you did that, than two, is if you did that, you'd have to check the details to see where they're from , then to see where they're from, then start you've just to see where they're from, then start it you've just to see where they're from, then start it cost you've just to see where they're from, then start it cost than/e just to see where they're from, then start it cost than the|st to see where they're from, then start it cost than the 20 made it cost more than the 20 million it already costs. >> yeah, yeah, because you're trying get of it. but i'm trying to get out of it. but i'm old school. i'm saying i the old school. i'm saying i get the feeling that there are a i myself , i feeling that there are a i myself, i myself feeling that there are a i myself , i myself am feeling that there are a i myself, i myself am not a citizen of this country. i'm not trying. children are. so i want to just make so people know that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. and would we say that? >> i mean, when he says he's 20 million, does he mean that's in extra wages? or he mean extra wages? or does he mean that number that that the number of police that have been a have been there have been paid a total but they total of 20 million, but they would been somewhere else would have been somewhere else anyway? i mean, they probably to me more me it feels more, more, more important opportune cost important is the opportune cost of to correctly of being able to correctly police capital. police the rest of the capital. >> these are >> no, no, no, because these are on saturdays and sundays and

things like that. instead, it was hours. so it's was 28,000 extra hours. so it's all done as overtime. all being done as overtime. >> the of >> yeah, yeah. the idea of trying people for it trying to charge people for it again, it's as bad as this idea. it's tough talking, but it's unworkable. maybe should it's tough talking, but it's unworktommy aybe should it's tough talking, but it's unworktommy robinsonhould it's tough talking, but it's unworktommy robinson .ould it's tough talking, but it's unworktommy robinson . that charge tommy robinson. that would. isn't unworkable . would. it isn't unworkable. >> you can't go. you can't go to moscow and demonstrate against putin there. you can't fly into riyadh. so what do i protest ? riyadh. so what do i protest? >> the idea of charging people for a protest is unworkable in russia . they don't charge russia. they don't charge people. >> no, they hit people on the head, which is what countered my point. yeah. >> yeah. >> em- em— >> yeah. >> i'm talking about >> the idea i'm talking about flying people who flying about people. people who i think the people who are protesting this thing a lot of, i don't know, maybe i'm wrong. if i'm wrong, i think you're wrong. >> i think you are. i think i'm wrong. i don't think there's a huge number of non—citizens that certainly isn't my issue. but i do think it's going to do think if it's going to continue, then they need to look at way i agree, if at some way of i agree, if you're going to protest like consecutive saturdays for three months, probably need consecutive saturdays for three m4start, probably need consecutive saturdays for three m

but maybe the estate of the balfour family, maybe, maybe balfour family, or maybe, maybe they should to be off the they should force to be off the roads place, roads into another place, into a safe place, into a river. steve over to the sun, to not worry anyone, but we should look to our laurels. there is a new kid on the block, jeremy hunt. the election entirely to win election is entirely ours to win , says jeremy hunt, as he promises to boost the economy, boost economy might mean boost the economy might mean give cuts in a kind of like, give tax cuts in a kind of like, oh please, like like a wrong and giving out sweets in a park. um, so he was interviewed in the sun and, and he says, i think it's entirely ours to win we are entirely ours to win if we are sensible, prudent continue sensible, prudent and continue on that we're going which on a path that we're going which which working which reduces taxes on working families why keep hearing families, why do we keep hearing about inheritance tax get talked about inheritance tax get talked about that's not it's about then? that's not it's not up there at your top tax. well, the family, the reason the reason family, the reason that would kill inheritance that they would kill inheritance tax because it's it provides tax is because it's it provides poor incentives for people to invest very wealthy invest properly. very wealthy people manage avoid people manage to avoid inheritance tax by situating their money, their investments in places where the government won't get it when they die. and those are not good investments for rebooting the economy. so

the for abolishing the argument for abolishing inheritance not a moral inheritance tax is not a moral one. really. saying though, you shouldn't or is shouldn't be taxed twice or is we sad for the kids, it's we feel sad for the kids, it's actually an effective way of encouraging people to make good decisions with their investments. arguments of decisions with their inve shouldn't arguments of decisions with their inve shouldn't be arguments of decisions with their inve shouldn't be taxed1ents of decisions with their inve shouldn't be taxed twice.»f you shouldn't be taxed twice. have with vat then yeah, have a word with vat then yeah, i we all aware i know we were all aware everything or everything is taxed twice or three or four times. three times or four times. everything is. then like everything is. then it's like it's like drinking water in london. in london. there's no point in thinking you're getting thinking that you're getting taxed the, like some kind taxed for the, like some kind of virgin your wedding virgin on your on your wedding night. he's night. but it's just that he's mentioning working mentioning taxes on working families. list mentioning taxes on working fanthe s. list mentioning taxes on working fanthe taxes, list mentioning taxes on working fanthe taxes, well, list mentioning taxes on working fanthe taxes, well, that's st all the taxes, well, that's because it's rhetoric, isn't it? that's just rhetoric to win the election it should election just mean it should be about basic basic about the basic if the basic income changed income one doesn't get changed before inheritance before things like inheritance tax, annoyed by tax, people should be annoyed by this. the start of this. and it's the start of what's coming, i think, because they've labour puts they've waited until labour puts a figure and then a figure on something and then try undercut. it's try and undercut. yeah, it's a good . i've been saying good strategy. i've been saying for some time they're going to have to introduce if they're not going absolutely. don't going to be. absolutely. i don't think they think there's any chance they could win, but they could be really destroyed. mean, could win, but they could be reall'could destroyed. mean, could win, but they could be reall'could beestroyed. mean, could win, but they could be reall'could be left,(ed. mean, could win, but they could be reall'could be left,(ed. know, 1, they could be left, you know, cratered. they do cratered. whereas if they do manage it and just

manage to pull it out and just demonstrate some demonstrate that they had some kind of plan, you know, or just demonstrate that they had some kin> steve? the independent. now they can barely contain their fury at seeing prince andrew still wobbling about free as a lark, despite appearing yet lark, despite appearing on yet another that one. another list. we got that one. yes, metropolita and yes, this is metropolita and police not investigate police will not investigate prince andrew. um even after the release of the documents, it says the duke of york has

consistently denied any wrongdoing. also denied wrongdoing. he also denied sweating. so that's worth that's true. , i true. adding in for context, i mean, to be fair, as you said earlier, we've not actually got new information. there's one extra but the court extra claim, but in the court documents are attributed to a jane we kind know jane doe. now, we kind of know who that but what's the who that is. but what's the police? the police police? how can the police investigate and they actually said article that said in that very article that there was they contained the phrase , i'm actually i wrote it phrase, i'm actually i wrote it down. to read out down. i'm going to read it out now because so now because it was so extraordinary. they said that he was, had there is it was, uh, he had had there is it i'm going to read this out. i've got it written down here in the documents, prince andrew was accused gross being a young accused of gross being a young 20 year old. yes. they had to insert the word young. there to make it sound as if it 20 year old is two years. well, two old is like two years. well, two years above the age of maturity or consent whatever, even or consent or whatever, even in that it? yes you that country, isn't it? yes you know, but they try and stick that word there's young that word in. there's a young 20, it's almost 20, as if it's almost a suggesting. was sort of suggesting. she was sort of educationally challenged or something, what something, you know. in what sense she young , what she sense was she young, what she was like? she was a march baby.

and this . and this was this. >> well, what's what's it with you you basically treat you people? you basically treat the royal family so badly . you people? you basically treat the royal family so badly. i mean, he's just a normal bloke who's got no job and no privilege . the one thing anyone privilege. the one thing anyone would do with it, you would think the article he had on when he was on the island, he had a massage every day. >> how could you do that without just bruised? >> how could you do that without just if bruised? >> how could you do that without just if canised? two days of >> if you can have two days of massage, you've not gone. maybe >> if you can have two days of mazaage, you've not gone. maybe >> if you can have two days of maza chestou've not gone. maybe >> if you can have two days of maza chest day.�* not gone. maybe >> if you can have two days of maza chest day. you gone. maybe >> if you can have two days of maza chest day. you know, maybe >> if you can have two days of maza chest day. you know, legibe it's a chest day. you know, leg day. maybe that's not day. and yeah, maybe that's not the of tissue we would say. yeah. >> how does he know about massages? >> that's the halfway now, >> that's the halfway mark. now, uh, played uh, we have coming up is played tourism bad or was claudine gay the victim of a what hunt. see, i changed it a bit from which it's not hard, is it? see you in

listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> and welcome back to headliners louis. >> we will kick off with the sunday telegraph this story will be close to your heart. suspect. >> well, it is as a matter of fact, because it's about covid and about vaccines and about how, uh, how youtube and, uh, facebook have shut down the debate in this country. and there was and this couple of people are complaining that dunng people are complaining that during the whole thing , they during the whole thing, they weren't allowed that they weren't allowed to, that they weren't allowed to, that they were unquote, censored and were quote unquote, censored and i've seen that happen. we've been really basically the free

speech, not even free speech, but free discussion of ideas that was totally throttled. unfortunately unfortunately, they want the government to come in and censor facebook and censor youtube or control youtube. and the truth is, is that what do they want us to do? there's nothing. there's nothing that we can do about it if, if facebook wants to suppress information , then unfortunately information, then unfortunately they can do it. >> so this particular case is astrazeneca right . and there's a astrazeneca right. and there's a there's a family that have been campaigning to to be have it recognised that they believe that there's been a facebook site with other people who have been wanting to read this thing. >> i myself have been blocked on from, facebook , um, for from, from facebook, um, for posting from the whole of facebook or just. yeah, if i was facebook orjust. yeah, if i was for suspended 30 days or for suspended for 30 days or something. i'm making this up. but, , in the but, uh, um, you know, in the early days, because i was an early days, because i was an early disbeliever, i've never been vaccinated . i thought the been vaccinated. i thought the whole was rubbish. the whole thing was rubbish. but the truth truth is, it was truth is, the truth is, it was

really bad what facebook did. but what this what these people are asking the government to do will be far worse. what do you say that? say about that? >> you stephen? >> what do you think, stephen? can't government to can't expect the government to know. i mean, this is the problem having that much problem of tech having that much control and wielding it incorrectly because in fact, i actually genuinely have had a problem with youtube. i used to do a little show with eric mcelroy at comic solving problems. we made some jokes about shouldn't about vaccines, which shouldn't have kind of like, have triggered any kind of like, oh, you're. but did. oh, you're. but they did. deaung oh, you're. but they did. dealing with misinformation. yeah, got flagged all over yeah, we got flagged all over the um, videos yeah, we got flagged all over the down um, videos yeah, we got flagged all over the down everything, and taken down and everything, and we just doing jokes, so we were just doing jokes, so it's not serious there it's not a serious issue. there is a serious here. is a serious issue here. um, these companies, they're these tech companies, they're not they're probably not being overzealous because they have some motive , which will some sinister motive, which will probably will be people's guess onune probably will be people's guess online if they want an easy life . and it's just to wipe out . and it's easy just to wipe out the things are slightly the things that are slightly tricky. the problem is tricky. yeah, but the problem is right here, you've got some genuine there footage genuine cases. there was footage of covid, uh, investigation of the covid, uh, investigation that was censored by youtube.

what are you doing? >> if you are so censorious that you're stopping the actual legal investigation being broadcast on your you've got a big your platform, you've got a big problem. >> m who >> yeah. so who do you who do you want involved in you want to get involved in that? do you want the government to because those that? do you want the government to the because those that? do you want the government to the peopleiuse those that? do you want the government to the peopleiuse cane that? do you want the government to the peopleiuse can get are the only people who can get involved. can't involved. the government can't get . the whole system get involved. the whole system is rotten because cause there's an atmosphere of suppression of ideasin an atmosphere of suppression of ideas in this world right now. team world did not want wanted the covid information suppressed . okay. >> the observer announced , >> the observer announced, steve, they are still bringing up new angles from vr on the claudine gay case. uh yeah. so it's harvard's claudine gay was ousted for plagiarism. how serious was it, really? and that's the tone i've added to it, but i think it's the tone that comes across in the article. yeah, i'm not normally one away the one for chipping away at the newspaper because of its newspaper just because of its title. i like to the title. i like to argue the point rather but this rather than, you know, but this does feel like it's very much a guardian very guardian in selected and very little me but oh, little whines me up. but oh, this winds up so, um, she this winds me up so, um, she resigned. but how bad was it? i don't know, ask her. she

resigned. yeah. were 50 resigned. yeah. there were 50 counts plagiarism in the counts of plagiarism in the article, one person says, but some yeah, some were just mistakes. yeah, it'd which it'd be the other ones. which wouldn't it? said if you're wouldn't it? they said if you're a and you some a student and you did some plagiarism, you'd fail your course. there seems to be a higher standard you're in higher standard if you're in charge harvard. yeah, that's charge of harvard. yeah, that's just a fact. and this is just a fact. and i mean, this is this something because this is something because i feel i've a burden on my, you i've been a burden on my, you know, on my on my shoulders for some there were some time that there were elements of my three year law course in southampton university in the 1980s, which if they were brought under this level of scrutiny and this kind of software probably discover software will probably discover that certain passages were were imported in a quite old fashioned manner, you know, there was no cut and paste in those you to do it those days. you had to do it with a quill. yeah, but that is the point i had by that time realised i even to realised i wasn't even going to be let alone try and be a lawyer, let alone try and be a lawyer, let alone try and be the university be president of the university city. know, was just city. you know, i was just trying make it to end of trying to make it to the end of the sort of having the track without sort of having to for medics at that to call for medics at that point, you know. yeah i think it was a slightly different standard expected standard of, uh, of, of expected action. and that's the thing that expectation is that standard of expectation is

just it's true. and just a fact and it's true. and it should be that way. yeah. but if in you can if you zoom in enough, you can make oh, this is make it look like, oh, this is victimisation. it's not. victimisation. no, it's not. there's much more interesting victimisation. no, it's not. there' which |ch more interesting victimisation. no, it's not. there' which ih more interesting victimisation. no, it's not. there' which i thinks interesting victimisation. no, it's not. there' which i think the :eresting thing, which i think the guardian up guardian will pick up on sometime mid—march, which sometime in mid—march, which is the christopher rufo. you the guy, christopher rufo. you know, of know, who is who sort of coordinated the attack on claude. know him? claude. engage you know him? christopher rufo is a conservative activist. they called might be called him. i think he might be connected with one of the big, um, think tanks, uh, cato institute something that institute or something like that . um, and he's the one who . and, um, and he's the one who has coordinated the most successful attacks on critical race part of the race theory as part of the american education system and has, like, overturned all kinds of finds of activities that he finds distasteful there. so he's the one who went after claudine gay. they used software in order to try. and you know, it was like a coordinated, attack. and coordinated, proper attack. and what since about his what has emerged since about his academic record, they've obviously after him obviously gone after him immediately. he's not i mean, he's not the president of a university, it doesn't matter university, so it doesn't matter so this is something so much. but this is something that's come out. is ex that's come out. he is ex harvard, but he a thing harvard, but he did a thing i think called a harvard think it's called a harvard extension something think it's called a harvard ewhat on something think it's called a harvard ewhat ili something think it's called a harvard ewhat it sounds something think it's called a harvard ewhat it sounds a something think it's called a harvard ewhat it sounds a like1ething think it's called a harvard ewhat it sounds a like is hing . what it sounds a bit like is like a school. you know,

like a typing school. you know, it used to be oxford in the it used to be an oxford in the summer like there summer school. like you go there and a certificate that and you get a certificate that says oxford in big letters along the school the top. and then typekit school at this is what at the bottom. and this is what his degree is. and that in itself quite controversial itself is quite a controversial thing because to itself is quite a controversial thin degree because to itself is quite a controversial thindegree to because to itself is quite a controversial thin degree to which se to the degree to which credentialism rather than actual education is what you pay for, if you go to harvard, he looks as if he may have benefited from that. course that. but of course his employers going be employers are not going to be bothered about that. >> but it's oh, sorry. >> but it's oh, sorry. >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> it's this is like mutual mutual destruction. is it ? mutual destruction. what is it? mutually assured. mutually assured destruction is that people are going to kill each other until they stop killing each quite each other. and for, for quite a few years , the liberal left in few years, the liberal left in america had free rein. yeah and now they don't. >> well , there's a guy. who was >> well, there's a guy. who was it? it was . uh oh, matt taibbi. it? it was. uh oh, matt taibbi. no, not matt taibbi. uh, it'll come back. matt iglesias , who's come back. matt iglesias, who's a well—known correspondent , um, a well—known correspondent, um, in american media, he joked . he in american media, he joked. he said, well, very dry joke that what will happen now is that the left will after all, the left will go after all, the conservative presidents of american universities .

american elite universities. yeah. there are none. you yeah. i.e. there are none. you know, haven't been for 20 know, and haven't been for 20 years. the point. the years. that's the point. the thing tilted far in one thing has tilted so far in one direction that there is no there is no , um, incentive for the is no, um, incentive for the conservatives to play fair. they've got they have no men on the, on the, on the field anymore. they barrage anymore. they can just barrage it. you what heard? >> you know what i heard? you know, heard that the know, i heard that that the people that doctors in america are left wing to an are skewed left wing to an incredibly high degree, like 95% of doctors are doctors . yeah. of doctors are doctors. yeah. and it used to be the other way around. yeah. >> it's basically now the physics department is roughly 5050. and everything else, you know, is, is like absolute. i think quantum mechanics, things like anthropology , there is like anthropology, there is literally a single, uh , literally not a single, uh, self—declared republican professor left in america suddenly back to school for you, louis. now to learn a thing or two about discipline in the classroom. >> is something i had >> well, this is something i had actually about >> well, this is something i had actually i about >> well, this is something i had actually i knew about >> well, this is something i had actually i knew nothing about|t >> well, this is something i had actually i knew nothing about it, because i knew nothing about it, because i knew nothing about it, because at because i don't hang out at schools but teachers kc schools anymore. but teachers kc are following the order. teachers are. cuz i'm going to

play teachers are. cuz i'm going to play prince andrew. uh, teachers are cuz behaviour tsar of sniping from sidelines over schools crisis. so the this guy tom bennett, he's the chair of the task force aimed at tackling misbehaviour of schools, said that they should stop mandy pandenng that they should stop mandy pandering with the kids and punish them . and then the punish them. and then the teachers union says, oh, we got to be nice to the kids. so it's basically it's the left, right, woke non—woke team world versus team great britain is, what are we going to be? are we going to be super nice to the kids who need help? because they've had some hard times? or are we going to a stick? to use a stick? >> the old saying, >> there was the old saying, a woman, and a walnut tree. woman, a dog and a walnut tree. remember that? no they're better for that's the nature for beating. that's the nature of was farmer . for beating. that's the nature of was farmer. i of its joke. kc was a farmer. i don't know why you beat a walnut tree, but maybe simon bly, who was a stand up comedian. you should have a great routine. he'd been a teacher and he said, you know, don't you know, people don't understand. need understand. children need hitting regularly, you know, sometimes i do sometimes quite hard. can i do my analysis? yes. my annoying steve analysis? yes. yeah. you've got two

yeah. it's both. you've got two people arguing at different angles. think they angles. yes. and they think they overlap sort of actual overlap is some sort of actual discussion. don't discussion. he's saying don't treat like they're treat them all like they're special and precious. you need discipline. they're saying . but discipline. they're saying. but some behavioural problems some have behavioural problems that come from their background. absolutely. at simon absolutely. look at the simon mayall. other mayall. on the other hand, sometimes if you've got a behavioural that comes behavioural problem that comes from still the from the background, still the threat violence the threat of violence or the brief experience might experience of violence might prevent you from misbehaving again. as as that's again. as long as that's not the only dealing this only form of dealing with this issue, it could be there. issue, it could all be there. can just throw well? can i just throw in as well? from the article, two thirds of excluded get school excluded pupils get free school meals, surprised that meals, and i'm surprised that newspapers haven't said that free food makes you behave badly, the kind badly, because that's the kind of correlation, not causal. it probably your parents feel probably makes your parents feel less or invested in less involved or invested in your progress as well. that's a belief i think. yeah, they'd take a thousand words. we're going to on with the next going to get on with the next one. we're staying in school one. we're staying in the school three i know very nearly one. we're staying in the school three wrong. ow very nearly one. we're staying in the school three wrong. threey nearly one. we're staying in the school three wrong. three hours. ly said that wrong. three hours. resentment, and rancour said that wrong. three hours. rethe:ment, and rancour said that wrong. three hours. rethe observer and rancour said that wrong. three hours. rethe observer. and rancour said that wrong. three hours. rethe observer. uh, and rancour said that wrong. three hours. rethe observer. uh, head ancour in the observer. uh, head teachers may refuse ofsted entry due to fears for teachers mental health normally , if i see mental

health normally, if i see mental health normally, if i see mental health used as a not even swing in the lead. yeah, it feels like, oh, you're crying during an argument that kind of. oh, now look. this is serious. now look. but this is serious. this know that the stress this we know that the stress levels have officially contribute to someone's death. the system is also definitely flawed . you can't with whittle flawed. you can't with whittle everything down to a scale of like five. it's like in edinburgh review. yeah. it's like going into a school and saying, you know. yeah they got special measures, but it reads like a good, um, but the idea is they're just going to shut the doors let the ofsted doors and not let the ofsted inspectors they've inspectors in because they've only training . only been given some training. and the training does sound pretty poor, like an afternoon zoom course in how to not stress people. will they people. so what will they achieve letting ofsted people. so what will they ach yeah, letting ofsted people. so what will they ach yeah, this letting ofsted people. so what will they ach yeah, this is etting ofsted people. so what will they ach yeah, this is the|g ofsted people. so what will they ach yeah, this is the thingted people. so what will they achyeah, this is the thing i d in? yeah, this is the thing i don't i don't it achieves don't i don't think it achieves anything. you should do anything. what you should do is, is continue discussion about is continue the discussion about what to what negotiate, what training the head teachers need . training the head teachers need. exactly. so of it would be, exactly. so part of it would be, you know, someone comes in and reviews job as bad, which reviews your job as bad, which happens to me every time i'm on

here twitter. i learn to not here on twitter. i learn to not let it impact my own course. my father worked with extreme stress for the last 20 years or so of his career, and it was serious and he was prescribed, uh, you know, tranquillisers at one point, and he managed to get himself off he said, himself back off them. he said, you a hobby where you need to have a hobby where you're with both hands you're working with both hands and coordinating your your hand movements other. movements one way or the other. he paint model aircraft he used to paint model aircraft and aircraft. and build model aircraft. he said, got to do. said, that's what you got to do. you home the you can't come home in the evening and read books or read newspapers the newspapers or watch the news, because the same newspapers or watch the news, beca ofa the same newspapers or watch the news, becaof your the same newspapers or watch the news, becaof your brain. the same newspapers or watch the news, becaof your brain. that's same newspapers or watch the news, becaof your brain. that's been part of your brain. that's been getting stressed out at all day. >> simon, can i interrupt you and that of the most and say that is one of the most that's that comment? is shiffrin in irrelevancy? that's that comment? is shiffrin in ithank ncy? that's that comment? is shiffrin in ithank you much. that's that comment? is shiffrin in ithank you much . well, i >> thank you so much. well, i hope headteachers will have picked that. louis, we've picked up on that. louis, we've got an education sector got 30s from an education sector that's under water to something better designed. >> yeah. well the royal navy is forced to linkedin . they forced to turn to linkedin. they had place an ad in linkedin had to place an ad in linkedin looking of the looking for the head of the director submarines . so they director of submarines. so they placed ad for the head of the placed an ad for the head of the director of submarines on

linkedin. they're getting linkedin. and they're getting being they being laughed at because they they gone down to they should have gone down to portsmouth and into the portsmouth and gone into the witherspoon there. >> you heave a brick and you'll hit a submarine. yeah. >> exactly anybody want >> right. exactly anybody want a job? they supposed to job? how are they supposed to advertise submarine ? advertise for a submarine? >> used to be a father >> well, you used to be a father and son thing. one of my best friends, father his friends, his father and his grandfather, submariners. friends, his father and his grandfathink submariners. friends, his father and his grandfathink that'submariners. friends, his father and his grandfathink that's the ariners. friends, his father and his grandfathink that's the best. s. yeah, i think that's the best. that's line, think. on that's the line, i think. but on the other he's the other hand, he's a cartoonist, so that says everything, doesn't it? >> basically basically >> so he's basically basically this the non—story of the this is the non—story of the entire, i don't know, to be a submarine commander. >> that's an extraordinarily top notch isn't they should notch job, isn't it? they should really should really have. they they should have access those have kind of access to those people it on on people, not be putting it on on tiktok. >> well, then maybe they can complain job wasn't complain that the job wasn't what that where complain that the job wasn't what they that where complain that the job wasn't what they haven'tthat where complain that the job wasn't what they haven't looked ere they, they haven't looked externally for a job. >> they've popped on >> they've popped it on linkedin. that's that's certainly the they're more diy accessible . right. just the accessible. right. just the final section go . decorative final section to go. decorative arboreal poo ornaments and arboreal poo bag ornaments and katherine ryan's alternative to potty training are those stories connected? you'll have to watch to find

together. welcome back to headliners the sunday telegraph . headliners the sunday telegraph. now steve and tree born poo bags make for strange fruit . oh, make for strange fruit. oh, you're not going to sing, are you? i'm not. no. um dog owners increasingly hanging poo bags from trees. >> postcode is the headline post—covid. >> that's important due to covid because of the fact it's the vaccines the vaccines are making people, not the vaccine though is it? is it the touchy , touchy is it? is it the touchy, touchy germophobia? yeah, exactly . so germophobia? yeah, exactly. so this is their thing. so anti—litter campaign is are saying people are disgusted saying that people are disgusted touching bin lids. yeah i don't think that's true. is it? here's why i don't think it's true. some people might be germaphobes i who's not germaphobe some people might be germaphobes i owners ho's not germaphobe some people might be germaphobes i owners because germaphobe some people might be germaphobes i owners because part aphobe some people might be germaphobes i owners because part one, be dog owners because part one, they a beast that licks they own a beast that licks itself and then licks them. yeah, then they've just got yeah, and then they've just got a sometimes they even like but no. yeah they some, they go

mouth to mouth don't they. some of them, some of them do i don't do that, i want to say. but when of them, some of them do i don't dboughti want to say. but when of them, some of them do i don't dbought our nt to say. but when of them, some of them do i don't dbought our last» say. but when of them, some of them do i don't dbought our last dog. but when of them, some of them do i don't dbought our last dog. bu one,en i bought our last dog but one, the breeder kissed it goodbye and nearly retched his the breeder kissed it goodbye ardisgustingrlyretched his the breeder kissed it goodbye ardisgusting going:hed his the breeder kissed it goodbye ardisgusting going which his the breeder kissed it goodbye ardisgusting going which isis is disgusting going which is worse, the dog or breeder? worse, the dog or the breeder? yeah, you know, yeah, but, um. and you know, that has been snogging yeah, but, um. and you know, that dogs. has been snogging yeah, but, um. and you know, that dogs. yeah been snogging yeah, but, um. and you know, that dogs. yeah um, snogging yeah, but, um. and you know, that dogs. yeah um, but�*gging yeah, but, um. and you know, that dogs. yeah um, but also; other dogs. yeah um, but also they've just picked up a poo in a these aren't a bag and then. so these aren't germaphobe people. not germaphobe people. they're not like, more likely like, i don't think more likely to germaphobes your to be germaphobes than your average. what do? average. you know what they do? they think themselves they think they tell themselves i because it's i will see it because it's hanging pick hanging there and i'll pick it up the back. and they up on the way back. and they never it looks like christmas never do it looks like christmas gone like gone wrong. does it look like a warning disgusting it is. warning sign? disgusting it is. it is like, uh, voodoo or whatever. >> yeah, well, it's still better. still better. sorry. no it's still better. sorry. no it's still better it used be 20 better than it used to be 20 years when you'd walk the years ago when you'd walk in the park people just park and the people would just leave stuff. yeah leave their dog stuff. yeah that's we do. it has that's true. we do. it has changed tremendously. >> pick up. i tell you >> we do pick up. i tell you what don't want to what i do. if you don't want to walk mean, this is walk it. i mean, maybe this is controversial, but there are usually like nettles or something can chuck something where you can chuck the it's in a the thing. it's in a biodegradable it will break biodegradable bag. it will break down return down the faeces, will return to nature be. nature where it was meant to be. it's fine as long as you're

it's all fine as long as you're not to tread in it not going to tread in it. it doesn't kind of, doesn't need to be like kind of, you know, sunk in a 20 metre deep. well or something like nuclear waste. it's just getting it path. always carry it off the path. i always carry it off the path. i always carry it home in a bag, which weird it home in a bag, which is weird because dog. because i do not have a dog. keeps warm, keeps your hands keeps it warm, keeps your hands warm. that's why it, warm. that's why you do it, isn't they. there's isn't it? when they. there's nothing getting to nothing worse than getting to the soon on a frosty the bin too soon on a frosty day, wonder can make it day, i wonder if i can make it to next one. training to the next one. potty training news metro, lewis. news now in the metro, lewis. and tells this and something tells me this is going rare a moment of going to be as rare a moment of intersection you and intersection between you and catherine, right? >> and this is >> it is totally. and this is one those stories that louis one of those stories that louis schaefer unbelievably one of those stories that louis schae amount unbelievably one of those stories that louis schaeamount . unbelievably one of those stories that louis schaeamount . catherineievably one of those stories that louis schaeamount . catherine ryan.y large amount. catherine ryan makes controversial parenting admission, has proof her admission, but her has proof her method basically, she method works. basically, she said that you could potty train baby babies. yeah right baby ease. and that's like a very interesting thing because that's what i did with my second son. i potty train him. he was three months old and he was 100% dry and free till his mother divorced me. wow. and but it sounds like. and i read when they were an actual baby, they

were a nappy, right? >> and then at some, basically it's thing, but just it's the same thing, but just earlier, she's just saying you don't, literally from don't, you don't literally from the neven the moment they're born, never, ever prevent them from this is what she's saying. >> she's saying, let's get them used off. let's used to taking it off. let's reward them going diaper free. >> but eight months or something, rather than let's. >> and the truth is, the truth is training involved . is there's no training involved. what there is, is, is you keep a ”appy what there is, is, is you keep a nappy on a baby , right? and then nappy on a baby, right? and then when the baby wakes up, you go directly to the make up, make a pee or poo, the baby makes a pee or poo, and then you put the “wv or poo, and then you put the nappy on. right. and so what happens is you train the baby to think, oh, air is touching my little just waking little so it's just like waking up the morning going to the up in the morning going to the loo you put your. yeah, loo before you put your. yeah, there's no thinking it there's no thinking involved. it can done. it's the simplest can be done. it's the simplest thing, article. thing, steve, is in the article. >> people in the west >> she says people in the west are not do it. i'll are trying not to do it. i'll tell you why. because this is a battle between good for battle between what's good for the good for the baby and what's good for your and we have your floor. and we tend to have carpets. you have hardwood floor? you like. floor? no. do this all you like. you're just living in la to

you're just living in la next to a you're a swimming pool. you're absolutely aren't you? absolutely fine, aren't you? >> she's >> no. that's where she's totally wrong. that's you totally wrong. that's how you can i'm going to say can tell. i'm. i'm going to say something. say something. i'm going to say something. i'm going to say something. did not potty something. she did not potty train child, okay? she did train her child, okay? she did not it sounds like she not do it. it sounds like she did . she little bit online did. she saw a little bit online and said, say and she said, let's say something she's something provocative. she's no, she's ricky gervais. she's no ricky gervais. >> doing example . i >> we're doing it by example. i just use the potty before my little son does. yeah. that's perfect. it's a good way to build up those thigh muscles as well. update on well. steve, latest update on eco news. not satisfied eco disaster news. not satisfied with making the planet uninhabitable. in danger uninhabitable. we are in danger of damaging the as well. of damaging the moon as well. yeah, could be yeah, moon's resources could be destroyed by thoughtless exploitation. nasa have warned. um, the way it's currently, net zero. um technically green belt, i don't know, but . but they i don't know, but. but they astronomers have launched dozens of lunar probes, jeopardising research . and this is how in the research. and this is how in the headline, it says that the resources you straight away resources and you straight away we gold is this we imagine like gold is this gold. there's no gold there. there's no gold out there. and they're talking about it's a great place scientific great place to do scientific research gravitation waves.

research on gravitation waves. yeah. neutrino as i yeah. because and neutrino as i imagine would be interesting because no atmosphere to because there's no atmosphere to get the whatever. no get in the way or whatever. no other. they talking other. and they also talking about it being a springboard for mars. don't it would mars. i don't think it would function as of those. i'm function as one of those. i'm sorry, picture that. sorry, i cannot picture that. well, it doesn't it. well, in 2001. it doesn't it. you there and you meet you go up there and you meet leonard rossiter. yeah, yeah. and this is what we're basing it on. no real on. but there's no real scientific reason to believe that it would be any easier to just from the moon. no. just take off from the moon. no. well. oh, i was going to disagree easier to disagree there. it's easier to escape escape escape to a reach escape velocity from the moon is a lot eafien velocity from the moon is a lot easier. okay you've got easier. okay i know you've got to to there first. to get from here to there first. yes not a long yes you might. it's not a long trip. exactly. so whatever yes you might. it's not a long tritakes, exactly. so whatever yes you might. it's not a long tritakes, once |ctly. so whatever yes you might. it's not a long tritakes, once you're) whatever yes you might. it's not a long tritakes, once you're off,|atever it takes, once you're off, you're off, aren't you? and then you've just to direct you've just got to direct yourself. have yourself. but if you have something launch you to something that can launch you to the moon that is relatively big and up there then and take a lot up there and then take whatever needs to go the take whatever needs to go to the mars, to it mars, you don't have to carry it all you, lewis. presumably all with you, lewis. presumably you that moon you believe that the moon is hollow there's hatch on hollow and there's a hatch on the dark side. well, we don't know. >> it might be the earth >> it might be how the earth could hollow as well. so we could be hollow as well. so we don't know what's going on inside. pretend inside. and we shouldn't pretend like know what this is. like we do. know what this is. this just one those panic

this is just one of those panic articles. panic get people to articles. panic to get people to think about going the moon. think about going to the moon. because. people can't think about going to the moon. becainasa people can't think about going to the moon. becainasa anymore. ople can't trust nasa anymore. because there criminally there are criminally lying organisations that have lost all faith . faith. >> $- @ think it's a shame faith. >> no think it's a shame faith. >> no longer think it's a shame faith. >> no longer have it's a shame faith. >> no longer have the a shame faith. >> no longer have the cold ame faith. >> no longer have the cold war? we no longer have the cold war? and that used to that used to create kinds sporting create all kinds of sporting events that no longer take place. it. place. you just said it. >> is, is that the >> the point is, is that the chinese aren't going go to chinese aren't going to go to the they're the moon because they're basically to basically they're coming to america. they're losing america isn't going back to the moon. russia is going to be a destroyed empire in about two weeks. how have not called destroyed empire in about two weeksteam have not called destroyed empire in about two weeksteam world? not called nasa team world? >> if anyone should >> literally, if anyone should be world, team world, it's be team world, team world, it's nasa. >> e“- p well, they are >> you didn't. well, they are team world. they are. they are completely team world. they're on climate scam , not agenda. on the climate scam, not agenda. it's agenda . it's their agenda. >> according to the philosophy for what's his name the pro—europe won britain's space project was doing well until we left europe . but anyway, i left europe. but anyway, i remember in a minute the show is nearly over. gay grey, something like that. the show is nearly oven like that. the show is nearly over, so let's take another quick look at sunday's front pages. mail on sunday court told

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high pressure is going to dominate into next week. it starts to draw in colder air from and we're all from the east and we're all noficed from the east and we're all noticed that. but for this evening and overnight it generally still a westerly split across country . clear skies across the country. clear skies across the country. clear skies across scotland, northern ireland wales the ireland parts of wales and the southwest. some some frost, fog andice southwest. some some frost, fog and ice forming here, icy stretches elsewhere as well . stretches elsewhere as well. temperatures hovering close to freezing , falling well below freezing, falling well below freezing, falling well below freezing glendale , freezing in the glendale, scotland, down to around minus seven or eight, possibly a little in 1 or 2 spots, little lower in 1 or 2 spots, but it means a sunny start here. any fog patches will be slow to clear across the north—west of the eventually the uk, but they will eventually lift and break to allow sunny spells and elsewhere generally dry spells . scattered dry with sunny spells. scattered showers a brisk showers though on a brisk northeast breeze across southeast england and some feeding off the north sea for feeding in off the north sea for northern england too, and temperatures on the cold side generally 3 to 5 celsius, add on the strength wind. it the strength of that wind. it will feel colder than the numbers suggest near freezing and another icy start monday morning. plenty dry weather, morning. plenty of dry weather, a brisk easterly wind developing

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welfare and government spending , welfare and government spending, as he claims a vote for farage is a vote for labour. >> and be honest with the public. labour is calling on the prime minister to come clean about his reservations towards the rwanda scheme, and published those documents that allegedly

show his apprehension . show his apprehension. >> even more misery ahead . the >> even more misery ahead. the health secretary warns the knock on effect by the junior doctors strike could last for months amid the longest walkout in nhs history, but the union thinks they still have a lot of public support . support. >> public support has been increasing throughout the strike action, so i think you know, the pubuc action, so i think you know, the public are feeling the pressure that the nhs is under as well. i think they can empathise with the issues that doctors have and later on in the programme, is it okay to call women fat ? okay to call women fat? >> well, the former founder of a sportswear company claims some women are too overweight to wear leggings. but would you be offended if someone called you fat? >> no comment. aidan magee has got the sport this morning. >> yes, indeed. in the premier league, after all the controversy of his summer move from saudi. sorry from liverpool to saudi, the former england captain henderson captain jordan henderson is reportedly ready to come back to engush reportedly ready to come back to english football. we'll have more on that later on. it's