good afternoon. it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. in a few minutes time, i'll be joined by the deputy chairman of the conservative party, captain lee anderson, and as usual, he's got plenty to say . next up, got plenty to say. next up, liberal democrat leader ed davey is facing calls to quit for his role in the post office scandal. well, this fella's called for other people to quit. 31 times in the past. so is it time for ed davey to get the high jump? and with much of the country under water, sir keir starmer

has said the government's response to flooding is not good enough. but would you welcome an mp in wellies to your flood site anyway ? and did you know that anyway? and did you know that today is national divorce day? yes more people split up on this day than at any other day in the entire year, and we'll help to make that as painless as possible. that's all coming up in the next hour . so welcome to in the next hour. so welcome to the show. here we are from westminster. i want to hear from you. email me all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. we've got lots on the way, including lee anderson who's just walked in. now he's raring to go for a few minutes time. but first, here's the latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thank you martin. good afternoon . it's 3:01. i'm sophia afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister says he'd strongly support a decision to

revoke the former post office bosses. cbe paula vennells routinely denied there were problems with the horizon. it system, which made it look like money was missing from shops. hundreds of staff were convicted, jailed, bankrupt and some took their lives after they were wrongly accused of theft . were wrongly accused of theft. the justice secretary and post office ministers are now looking at how to help those who were caught up in the scandal. one of the other victims, christopher hurd, says doesn't believe hurd, says he doesn't believe the fault lies with just one person. >> the reason that paula vennells is being singled out is because she was she was made aware countless occasions of because she was she was made awaproblems1tless occasions of because she was she was made awaproblems and s occasions of because she was she was made awaproblems and obviouslys of because she was she was made awaproblems and obviously she the problems and obviously she was in the position at that particular time to do something about it and failed do so. so about it and failed to do so. so i think that is why that's been the case. but, you know, you roll back over the years that, you there is obviously you know, there is obviously people in fujitsu, there is people in fujitsu, there is people government or people in government or ministers or even, you know, civil servants maybe tried civil servants that maybe tried to limitation, let's to have damage limitation, let's say, order to and make say, in order to try and make this that will go this a hope that it will go away. so countless

away. so there's countless number of people you had previous post office previous ceos at post office have crozier, there's you have adam crozier, there's you know, there's just there's the list is endless. we need the list is endless. so we need the inquiry finish that we get inquiry to finish so that we get to of that. and to the bottom of that. and obviously for the met police to do their investigation , economic do their investigation, economic secretary to the treasury bim afolami says the government is working as quickly as it can to compensate the victims . compensate the victims. >> it's worth saying that everybody involved with the post office horizon scandal, 100% of them, have received interim payments of over £168,000. that isn't enough , but that's an isn't enough, but that's an interim payment. we've brought forward a bill going through parliament, show clear parliament, show clear parliament in the next week or so that we don't have to wait for the results of the inquiry so that we can get this compensation paid in full as soon as possible. in addition to that, lord chancellor, who's that, the lord chancellor, who's head system is head of the justice system is meeting other colleagues meeting with other colleagues across to meeting with other colleagues acro how to meeting with other colleagues acro how much to meeting with other colleagues acro how much faster to meeting with other colleagues acro how much faster we to meeting with other colleagues acro how much faster we can to meeting with other colleagues acro how much faster we can make see how much faster we can make sure they have the legal redress , well the financial , as well as the financial redress. we want to this redress. we want to get this sorted as as we possibly

can. >> labour mp kevin jones is pushing for emergency legislation to exonerate the victims . victims. >> it's what i've come to expect over the years from the post office. it's been lies and cover ups all along. uh, but the key point is we've got to get these convictions overturned because they're quite clearly unsafe . they're quite clearly unsafe. >> fresh ice warnings have been issued for parts of britain as temperatures plummet and snow and sleet showers cover the country . the met office issued country. the met office issued a yellow warning for ice across the southern england and south wales, which will last until tomorrow morning. an amber cold health alert has been issued for parts of england, with the cold snap set to continue throughout the week . meanwhile, sir keir the week. meanwhile, sir keir starmer is visiting the flood hit east midlands today. it comes as labour has accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings. more than 160 flood warnings remain in place across the country, and over 1800 properties have been damaged . properties have been damaged. rishi sunak tried to defend his

record whilst visiting flood hit residents yesterday, saying the government has invested £5.2 billion in flood defences . billion in flood defences. >> this isn't the first time i've been out to talk to residents in this situation . residents in this situation. i've got to get ahead of this and that means earlier in the yeanin and that means earlier in the year, in the autumn, having a task force that brings together the local authorities, the emergency response, local people to ensure that the prevention work is done. some of the drains that are now being cleaned could have cleaned before hand. have been cleaned before hand. the wasn't quick enough the response wasn't quick enough , so don't think it's , so i just don't think it's good enough government good enough for the government to after the event again to come after the event again and express its empathy. get ahead of this with a task force. that's what i would do. >> actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban on machetes and so—called zombie knives. the hollywood star spoke to the families of those who lost their loved ones to youth violence. as he launches his don't stop your future campaign folder outfits, each representing someone who has died through knife crime, is being displayed in parliament

square in central london. the home office last summer said tougher measures on such knives would be introduced , but would be introduced, but legislation hasn't yet passed through the commons. he says , through the commons. he says, although deterrents like stop and search powers are somewhat working, much more needs to be done. >> it makes me feel sad as a society that we aren't putting as much focus as we should be on, on on stopping this. okay and i just i think today's campaign launch is about just really reem ibrahim energy in the government to think about this re—energising our society to think about this as a group and say, all right, how can we stop this? >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . martin now it's back to. martin >> thank you. sophia now we've got lots of crack through this houn got lots of crack through this

hour, so let's get going from westminster. and i'm joined in the studio by the deputy chairman of the conservative party mr lee anderson. lee welcome to this, this pristine new studio. now then , um, we new studio. now then, um, we need to talk about the post office scandal. so, so rishi sunak has been been very outspoken today about the fact that victims have been treated appallingly. that victims have been treated appallingly . lee, what's your appallingly. lee, what's your take on this absolute scandal? >> well, it is a scandal, martin. it's something i've raised in parliament in the past because i had a postmaster affected by this, the scandal. there's no other word for it. um, i'm just looking. i mean, the tv programme. i have actually caught a little bit of that, and that's really brought it the, you know, to the to it to the, you know, to the to the public. and the great british and an british public. and it's an absolute scandal. mean, i saw absolute scandal. i mean, i saw ed bleating on the ed davey bleating on in the papen ed davey bleating on in the paper, the weekend, paper, i think over the weekend, um , is a is a case of paper, i think over the weekend, um,isaisacaseofa paper, i think over the weekend, um , is a is a case of a man um, is a is a case of a man who's, um, not that relevant at the moment, but this sort of scandal has brought him back to the forefront of british politics, for the wrong politics, all for the wrong reasons. and it reasons. uh, may i add, and it would appear that in the past,

when he was the post office minister, he took side minister, that he took the side of the employee of the employer over the workers . now, as mps, over the workers. now, as mps, martin, we often get cases coming to, into our surgeries, into our office, and there's always two sides to every argument. and as an mp, you have to look at both sides, speak to the victims and the perpetrators, and sometimes it's a completely different story when you get to the bottom of it and this, this, this man, this, this ed davey is not really looked at sides of the looked at both sides of the story. the of the story. it's took the side of the of the post office employers and sadly many went to prison to you know, im not listening and some took their lives and they can't be brought back. >> so ed davey here's a guy who's very trigger happy when he's asking for people he's normally asking for people to over political to resign. yes, over political scandals times. fact, lee, scandals 31 times. in fact, lee, he's demanded people get the hiram. is it time for him to get the hiram? >> well, i think thing is, >> well, i think the thing is, martin, he actually resigned, martin, if he actually resigned, nobody notice. so can carry nobody notice. so it can carry on spouting nonsense in on spouting his nonsense in parliament much as he likes. parliament as much as he likes. and, the great the his

and, you know, the great the his constituents will that constituents will make that decision next election. decision at the next election. but should be coming but it really should be coming out instead of making excuse but it really should be coming out instead;tead of making excuse but it really should be coming out instead;te('sayingiaking excuse but it really should be coming out instead;te('saying he ng excuse but it really should be coming out instead;te('saying he was xcuse rs. instead of saying he was lied to he's probably lied to and he's probably apologised , make a public apologised, make a public apology to in parliament to these people that sadly took their lives, the families of these victims and the people that prison, there that went to prison, there are gonna compensation gonna be a lot of compensation cases coming down the pipeline over that means a big bill. >> and that means a big bill. who's going to pay that bill? do you think the software you think fujitsu, the software suppuen supplier, should be held accountable? they've got accountable? well if they've got any moral compass, they any sort of moral compass, they would donation. would be making a donation. >> i doubt it very much, martin. and sadly, you know, british and sadly, you know, the british taxpayer to stump up taxpayer will have to stump up the in this the bill. but i think in this case, i don't think the british taxpayer will mind that much for the been prison the people that's been to prison and but, you know, and suffered. but, you know, i think might actually well, think they might actually well, i might be i think the taxpayers might be saying, a minute, you saying, hang on a minute, you know, if the software was suppued know, if the software was supplied was not. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> i mean, what saying to >> i mean, what i'm saying to you, is, is the fujitsu, you, martin, is, is the fujitsu, but they pay. um, and but they won't pay. um, and they've lot of government they've got a lot of government contracts. well some contracts. yeah. well some someone's for this. someone's got to pay for this. i mean yeah, maybe that's a debate

to in parliament about the to have in parliament about the accountability firm. accountability for this firm. they've of money. they've made a lot of money. yeah um, they lot of yeah um, and they made a lot of misery as well. martin, on the back of that money. so maybe he got a fair point there. okay. i want to move on to another story. >> doing the today. of >> doing the rounds today. of course, as we speak, the north sea oil gas licensing debate sea oil and gas licensing debate is of your is going on. and one of your colleagues, chris skidmore, has resigned. and over this, i wanted your this wanted to get your take on this triggered yet another by—election. the by—election. that's the last thing moment. thing india at the moment. >> yeah. we don't any more by—election. it's little bit by—election. it's a little bit sad some my colleagues sad that some that my colleagues resigned over this look, i don't understand his arguments, but, uh, we need and understand his arguments, but, uh, while we need and understand his arguments, but, uh, while we're'e need and understand his arguments, but, uh, while we're making and understand his arguments, but, uh, while we're making thisnd gas while we're making this transition to net in 2050. transition to net zero in 2050. you planet is still you know, the planet is still going to need and gas. and going to need oil and gas. and we have to make a decision in this country. where do we get the from, you know, the oil and gas from, you know, are going to at the mercy are we going to be at the mercy of russia again? another unstable get unstable nations, or can we get it out the ground or from you know, the sea right on know, from out the sea right on our i say get as much our doorstep? i say get as much out as we can. that's a sensible thing. not only that, martin. i

mean, it's 200,000 jobs. depend on it rakes in on this, and it rakes in billions billions pounds billions and billions of pounds each for treasury to each year for the treasury to spend services. spend on public services. >> and ed miliband said, well done skidmore. that done to chris skidmore. and that begs you've got begs the question if you've got friends miliband, you friends like ed miliband, you don't take notice of ed miliband. >> this is a man when the last coal mine in his constituency closed, he was bleating on in parliament this parliament about saving this power this coal power station, saving this coal mine it produced a mine because it it produced a car went to the power car which then went to the power station miles down station just a few miles down the road . and when we had the road. and then when we had a debate, , or a statement in debate, uh, or a statement in parliament, i think it was last year about opening a coal mine in, in cumbria, he was spouting year about opening a coal mine in, idispatch a, he was spouting year about opening a coal mine in, idispatch boxe was spouting year about opening a coal mine in, idispatch box saying,pouting year about opening a coal mine in, idispatch box saying, this ng year about opening a coal mine in, idispatch box saying, this isi the dispatch box saying, this is a to do. and the a wicked thing to do. and the man he's got double man needs to he's got double standards, a bit of standards, is a bit of a hypocrite and he needs to make his up. look, this is his mind up. look, this is british is to british jobs and this is to money our treasury. we should get get and gas out of get get this oil and gas out of the ground from under the sea because any other country in the world do this. world would do this. >> alok sharma um, tory mp, of course, minister course, former cabinet minister and 26. he's and a chair of the cop, 26. he's he's not happy about it, as you'd expect. nor is zac

goldsmith does this bring us back to question the back to that question about the fact got sort of two fact we've got sort of two conservative parties here, a bit like brexit, the zero like over brexit, the net zero mob seem completely at odds with the sentiment were the sort of sentiment you were just sense approach. >> i think alex is very passionate about this subject. he's, you know, he has been, he's, you know, the he has been, you outspoken net you know, very outspoken on net zero. good colleague. but i zero. um a good colleague. but i think i disagree think on, on this i disagree with i think we have to with him. i think we have to look martin is a world look martin this is a world problem. this these carbon emissions. world problem. problem. this these carbon erneedsis. world problem. problem. this these carbon erneedsis. solution. �*blem. problem. this these carbon erneedsis. solution. it'sn. it needs a world solution. it's all, well and good being world leaders this. and i would leaders in this. and i would like to see us be world leaders. but in the meantime, have but in the meantime, i have people constituency that people in my constituency that are pay their gas are struggling to pay their gas bills electric bills, and bills and electric bills, and they're watching every penny. it's us over there it's all right for us over there in that place. they're on big salaries. know, many of salaries. as you know, many of us down each week. us live down here each week. get the the some mps have the get the some some mps have got and get the gas got second homes and get the gas bills electric paid bills and electric bills paid for. well and good. for. it's all well and good. i don't have to worry if i've got enough money in my bank account. each month to pay my gas and electric bill, but a lot of my constituents do, and that's my main it makes wonder if

>> and it makes you wonder if people future career people have a future career planned. i notice the guardian reported that, um, chris skidmore grand from skidmore earns 200 grand from from net zero jobs. maybe from from net zero jobs. maybe he's the line. he's looking down the line. separate story separate matter. next story benefits um, the benefits britain. um, in the papers today, of long papers today, the cost of long tum benefits tum sickness benefits is soaring. £17 billion a year expected . long terme sick to expected. long terme sick to cost is £48 billion a year by 2030 li. how much money are we spending on benefits? rishi sunak they'd like to clamp down. what would you like to i'd what would you like to do? i'd like to down. like to clamp down. >> i've banging on about >> i've been banging on about this, martin, since got this, martin, since i got elected. and the benefit elected. and before the benefit bill country is massive, bill in this country is massive, and there's different types of illnesses are illnesses now where people are off work or or don't want to go to work. uh, back in the day, martin, it was the old bad back. he to hobble into the he used to hobble into the doctor's surgery, you know, clutching give me clutching your back and give me a week. doctor. a club note for a week. doctor. and have a week off. but now, different illnesses. uh, it's more health side of more the mental health side of things as well, where it's not always possible to diagnose correctly . uh, i would say that correctly. uh, i would say that there are a lot of genuine cases

out there where with mental health problems, with anxiety problems and like, but i'm problems and the like, but i'm pretty sure that some people playing playing the system. but what to martin, i what we need to do, martin, i know speaking to employers know by speaking to employers and to people in and speaking to people in ashfield got ashfield that if you've got mental problems mental health problems or disabilities better disabilities, you're far better off workplace on a day to off in the workplace on a day to day basis. working and talking to people. that's better than being stuck at home on benefits, wasting life. wasting your life. >> want to very quickly >> okay, i want to very quickly ask about khan . yeah. ask you about sadiq khan. yeah. so avoid the tube so we narrowly avoid the tube strike seems to me strike in london. seems to me sadiq , um, has capitulated sadiq khan, um, has capitulated to the unions. is that a taste of what we might expect under a labour government? >> well, it is, i mean, i came down to london last night, uh, because of the tube strikes. i actually uh, and actually drove down, uh, and this is the hypocrisy of this is this is the hypocrisy of khan. wants to see a cleaner. khan. he wants to see a cleaner. cleaner cleaner air. cleaner atmosphere. cleaner air. i drive down to london i had to drive down to london last because thought it last night because i thought it was going to be strikes on in london. think it's london. uh, i don't think it's certainly my neck of the woods. martin is not taken seriously. certainly my neck of the woods. marin is not taken seriously. certainly my neck of the woods. marin london,aken seriously. certainly my neck of the woods. marin london, iten seriously. certainly my neck of the woods. marin london, iten seriohe y. certainly my neck of the woods. marin london, iten seriohe seems but in london, it seems he seems untouchable. uh but he needs to get grip. because i believe

get a grip. because i believe that part of his manifesto when he elected last time no he got elected last time was no strikes london. and strikes in london. and we've seen it's seen plenty of strikes, and it's to detriment the great to the detriment of the great people of london. >> okay. superbly, anderson, thanks us the thanks for joining us in the studio. going to studio. we're going to return to our story now. and that's our top story now. and that's this liberal democrat leader sir ed is mounting ed davey is under mounting pressure role in the pressure over his role in the post office scandal. davey has posted affairs minister during the coalition government , posted affairs minister during the coalition government, and he's speaking in the last he's been speaking in the last few minutes . few minutes. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now . the post office all know now. the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another minister's , and to me. another minister's, and when i met adam bates and listened to his concerns , i put listened to his concerns, i put those concerns to the officials in my department, to the post office, to the national federation of postmasters, and it's clear they all were lying to me. why was the first postal affairs to minister meet mr bates , to listen to him against bates, to listen to him against the advice that i'd received? because i was concerned by his

letter and i listened to him and itook letter and i listened to him and i took his concerns and i put them to officials. i put them to them to officials. i put them to the post office, and it's clear the post office, and it's clear the post office lied to the victims, to judges , to the victims, to judges, to the public, to me and other postal ministers . for over 20 years, ministers. for over 20 years, this is a conspiracy by the post office to deceive people . okay lee. >> well, that was ed davey. he's obviously not resigning. he's, um , coming out with platitudes. um, coming out with platitudes. what do you make of that? what a pathetic sight. >> martin is. is live there on tv, snivelling, snivelling away. look, over 700 people got convicted of these offences. you know , at any stage of that, of know, at any stage of that, of that investigation, a red flag should have appeared. martin, you think if 700 people had been convicted, somebody say, oh, there's something wrong here. and he didn't, he said and he didn't, and he said nothing until today. as far as i'm concerned , the man should i'm concerned, the man should hang his in shame. he hang his head in shame. he should. uh, should should. he should, uh, he should go chamber this afternoon go in the chamber this afternoon and um that's if he's and apologise. um that's if he's here at work. uh, it's a

pathetic. it's a grovelling, nothing and like i say, nothing apology. and like i say, if he did resign, nobody notice anyway. >> okay, is that necessarily true, though? because he has been the warpath saying he's been on the warpath saying he's going um, swing going to target, um, swing seats. he's going to go for that kind wall area in the kind of blue wall area in the home is having home counties. so he is having a bit a dig at the tories at bit of a dig at the tories at the moment. >> well, i mean, the lib dems, uh, they are tenacious campaigners, martin, you campaigners, martin, as you know. you at some know. and when you look at some of literature, you've seen of their literature, you've seen it been the it when you've been on the campaign trail, not always campaign trail, it's not always the most truthful of stuff. they put their of putting it. put on their way of putting it. they, they sell pretty they, they, they sell pretty close wind. but think close to the wind. but i think now one top dogs, now now one of their top dogs, if you like, has been proven to be, uh, well, just not be, you know, uh, well, just not good enough for the job. he's um, a pretty basic um, is a pretty basic investigation. when you've got 700 people. been 700 people. that's been convicted in an organisation like office. are you like the post office. are you telling me there's crooked, telling me there's 700 crooked, you postmark eaters in you know, postmark eaters in in our postal service ? you know, you know, postmark eaters in in our could service ? you know, you know, postmark eaters in in our could yourice ? you know, you know, postmark eaters in in our could you couldyou know, you know, postmark eaters in in our could you could go know, you know, postmark eaters in in our could you could go into w, you know, postmark eaters in in our could you could go into any you could you could go into any wetherspoons any pub . it's wetherspoons and any pub. it's on a monday when they've done the monday club, when they've been all day. been on a session all day.

martin at you martin and even at midnight you could talk to some of them and they'd come out with more sense than that bloke. they'd come out with more sense thawell, bloke. they'd come out with more sense thawell, blohard they'd come out with more sense tha well, blo hard to that. >> well, it's hard to top that. >> well, it's hard to top that. >> you came in to do some straight talking. that's certainly lee certainly what we've got. lee anderson, thank you much. anderson, thank you very much. superb ever. now more superb stuff as ever. now more than 1 million have than 1 million people have signed calling for signed a petition calling for former post chief former post office chief executive paula to be executive paula vennells to be stripped of cbe. we're stripped of her cbe. and we're going have more on this story going to have more on this story throughout show . i'm going to have more on this story throughout show. i'm martin throughout the show. i'm martin daubney gb news. britain's daubney on gb news. britain's news channel .

but equally, it's because it champions free speech. and as a journalist, that's what i'm all about. every sunday morning at 930, we're packing into 90 minutes solid, punchy politics with a bit of a twist. we not only want to inform you, but welcome back. >> it's 322. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news yeah, let's read on. okay. later this hour we'll cross live to the east midlands for the latest on the floods that are striking across the country. the bedlam , of course, country. the bedlam, of course, we are facing tory and labour mps are pushing for an emergency debate on the post office scandal , and debate on the post office scandal, and more than 1 million people have signed a petition calling for the former post office chief executive, paula vennells , to be stripped of her vennells, to be stripped of her cbe and over 700 post office branch managers , of course, were branch managers, of course, were given criminal convictions after faulty accounting software made it appear as though money was missing from their shops, when, of course, that wasn't the case at all, and joining me now is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley olivia . a scandal

olivia utley olivia. a scandal that's been rolling on for many years came to light during the coalition years , and yet it's coalition years, and yet it's only now being taken seriously thanks to an itv drama. but do you think we're on the verge of these people having their names cleared? finally, of getting justice and completion for those people involved? >> well, as you say, just to start off, this a scandal start off, this is a scandal with very far reaching tentacles . indeed, all three of the major parties are implicated in this. it happened under the it all happened under the coalition government, with lib dem ministers in charge of the post office and actually it started in 1999, in the last days of the gordon brown government. so all politicians pretty much are implicated in this. and as you say , it's only this. and as you say, it's only really now that this itv drama has aired that the public attention is properly onto this. alex chalk , the justice alex chalk, the justice secretary, is talking about various ways to try and speed up both the compensation process and the process to get those wrongful convictions overturned .

wrongful convictions overturned. and there are a couple of opfions and there are a couple of options that he could take. one would be to mass exonerate all of the postmasters who've been wrongfully convicted, at least 700 have been convicted, and of those convictions, only 93 have been overturned and 54 cases actually made it to the appeal court. but either the appeal was rejected and the conviction was upheld, or the claimant just had to back out of the process because was complicated because it was so complicated and tortuous. uh, a really and so tortuous. uh, a really messy situation. so there is the opfion messy situation. so there is the option of mass exoneration. david davis is calling for that. he says in the circumstances, although it would be radical, it's justified because the convictions were made on the grounds that only postmasters could access the it system, thereby making them responsible, when in actual fact, we now know that system could be that the system could be accessed remotely. therefore, those convictions are all unsafe . another option that alex shaw could take, which he's discussing with ministers at the moment, is stripping the power from the post to , office uh, go

from the post to, office uh, go ahead with these private prosecutions. these 700 postmasters were convicted by the post office , and many of the post office, and many of them say that essentially the post office acted as judge, jury and executioner. alex shaw could strip that power away from the post office and hand it back to the crown prosecution service. that would be a pretty radical measure to . but public outrage measure to. but public outrage has reached such a pitch about this that the government is now seriously considering these very dramatic measures in order to get this done and dusted once and for all, and to get those 700 postmasters, the justice they deserve. >> and this is going to be very expensive, £150 million already, much more compensation cases coming down the line . i just coming down the line. i just said to lee anderson, who's going to pay for this? he said, well, the taxpayer said, well, hang on a minute. why? why should the taxpayer pick up the bill? surely the bigger question is, fujitsu is, what about fujitsu if they suppued is, what about fujitsu if they supplied software, their supplied this software, if their fingerprints are on the safe, so to speak, and they were

directly, in a sense, responsible for this, surely the government has a case be government has a case to be pursuing fujitsu for the money, beanng pursuing fujitsu for the money, bearing mind still have bearing in mind they still have massive government contracts. >> , exactly. and those >> well, exactly. and those massive government contracts are coming lot scrutiny . coming under a lot of scrutiny. now. fujitsu the party in all now. fujitsu is the party in all of this who seem to have avoided most of the scrutiny. we're talking a lot about the individuals involved and rightly so. paula vennells a million signatures a petition to signatures on a petition to strip her of her cbe. but in a way fujitsu is, is the villain in this piece the ultimate villain in all of this piece? and yes, there is definitely an argument that government argument that the government should fujitsu to get that should go to fujitsu to get that money back. another question is what happens to ed davey the current leader of the liberal democrats, who post office democrats, who was post office affairs minister at the time. he received five letters from alan bates asking for a meeting and said to alan bates that a meeting would serve no useful purpose. warned him purpose. bates also warned him that there could be an astronomical cost to the taxpayer. those were his words. if this was allowed to snowball

out of control and davey arguably let it snowball out of control, so what happens to him at the of all of this? at the end of all of this? >> well, that's the big question. thank very much, question. thank you very much, olivia let's olivia lee. and in fact, let's put now to andrew put the question now to andrew lewer, the conservative mp for northampton who me northampton south, who joins me live rishi sunak live in the studio. rishi sunak being being very on point here, saying this is a scandal strongly supported sports, the honours forfeiture committee should look into the case of ex post office boss paula vennells. do you think it's the right thing? a million people now calling for her to be stripped of her honour? well uh, as you've there's you've just said, there's a there's forfeiture committee there's a forfeiture committee that there isn't that can ensure that there isn't sort overt political sort of overt political influence in people losing or getting honours. >> certainly losing them . there >> certainly losing them. there has been a precedent for this with the sir fred goodwin , as with the sir fred goodwin, as were fred, fred goodwin and the interesting precedent for that is that that wasn't actually due to a criminal conviction. that was to this bringing the was due to this bringing the honours system into disrepute. issue slightly different one than having been convicted of a

serious crime . um, and i serious crime. um, and i understand why people are interested in paula vennells and interested in paula vennells and interested in paula vennells and interested in ed davey and so on. there are significant issues , but i think it is these hundreds of people and their families that should be people's focus. and as has been said in gb news today , it's interesting, gb news today, it's interesting, surprising, disappointing, all sorts of things that it takes a television drama . yeah. for it television drama. yeah. for it to get to this pitch today. >> but andrew ed davey has been very trigger happy for many years, 31 times calling for the resignation of politicians and ministers . surely in this ministers. surely in this instance , you know, it was on instance, you know, it was on his brief on his watch at that time he should be getting the high jump. i think that is the issue. >> it's the hypocrisy that will really upset people in the country. but in the westminster bubble as well, that if you're one of these people who every time somebody does something they say they call for their resignation. you're the sort of person who repeatedly comes on air at every given opportunity

to say, person resign. to say, this person must resign. this outrageous . they must this is outrageous. they must go. then when this is go. and then when this is outrageous, well, and i was just about to say when arguably the biggest miscarriage of justice in modern history occurs, and you a significant role in you have a significant role in it. you are serial calling it. if you are a serial calling for people to resign type guy , for people to resign type guy, that does make it much more difficult on, live by difficult to hold on, live by the sword, die by a sword, and all that. all of that. >> the matter of the >> but on the matter of the financial situation here, £150 million already. andrew many, many more. millions down the pipeline , possibly billions of pipeline, possibly billions of pounds of liabilities. lee anderson was saying that the taxpayer will have to pick up the taxpayer. might seem to say about that. i mean, this is about that. i mean, if this is fujitsu surely the fujitsu era, surely the government has a beef them. government has a beef with them. >> does, but i mean, uh, >> it does, but i mean, uh, there's . a there's a tension there's. a there's a tension here between the desire for people to get compensation out to all of these people who've had their lives ruined by this scandal, and going through a long, lengthy litigation process

with a major international corporation to get money out of them, which we all know is not easy. so i think lee's right in the sense that the taxpayer may well have to come up with it initially to give the government then time to get that back in then time to get that back in the longer fullness of time out of fujitsu. >> how you think that'll play >> how do you think that'll play with taxpayer? mean, with the taxpayer? i mean, i mean, the biscuit tins empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i], the biscuit tins empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think biscuit tins empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think iiscuit tins empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think i think tins empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think i think if1s empty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think i think if you npty. with the taxpayer? i mean, i me i think i think if you are i. >> i think i think if you are producing taxpayer for money something really something that people really care are upset care about and are upset about like it can be regarded as care about and are upset about li priority, t can be regarded as care about and are upset about li priority, particularlyiarded as care about and are upset about li priority, particularly when as a priority, particularly when there must be a very , very there must be a very, very strong chance of getting that money unlike other money back. unlike most other areas government spending areas of government spending which spent it's gone , which are spent and it's gone, this to compensate this is spending to compensate people when they need it, which is right because all is right now, because of all these ludicrous delays . and then these ludicrous delays. and then fujitsu due course. what fujitsu in due course. what about contracts? about existing contracts? >> fujitsu still hold? >> the fujitsu still hold? i mean, for example, if i was a fish and chip shop and the person who supplied my potatoes was bad potatoes, i'd was giving me bad potatoes, i'd terminate contract. what's terminate the contract. what's the difference? terminate the contract. what's the i iifference? terminate the contract. what's thei think1ce? terminate the contract. what's the i think this terminate the contract. what's thei think this happens terminate the contract. what's the i think this happens time terminate the contract. what's thei think this happens time and >> i think this happens time and time happened time again. it happened with coutts as well, that it takes this of level of public

this sort of level of public scandal for large corporations to be held accountable for things . they should be held things. they should be held accountable for day day. accountable for day to day. i mean, the situation we've got where some one is being held criminally liable and imprisoned for saying they've been stealing money when it's a software error , when it's software that doesn't do what it was said to be done . i can understand why be done. i can understand why people are so annoyed about it, but i will point out that some of my parliamentary colleagues have been real heroes about this for a long time. they aren't coming on to talk about it. coming on air to talk about it. just today been involved just today they've been involved in a very long time. in this for a very long time. people david people like duncan baker, david davies , karl turner, andrew davies, karl turner, andrew bridgen , lucy allan have been bridgen, lucy allan have been standing up in parliament pushing on this for a very long time and they need their due today because they're the sorts of mps who persist and ask those difficult questions when some people would rather they didn't . people would rather they didn't. and that gets us to the sorts of results that we're much closer to getting now as a result of that, thank you for joining us

in the studio, andrew. >> but i mean, as you say, you know, why has it taken a tv drama this to be front page drama for this to be front page news and the deadline for compensation cases, think compensation cases, i think expires clock expires in august. so the clock is ticking taxpayers would is ticking and taxpayers would like government. your like the government. i like your idea a bridging loan , idea of maybe a bridging loan, but book has to stop but really the book has to stop with fujitsu, surely? >> i think it does. but as i say, the public will expect these these postmaster these people, these postmaster ers who've had their lives destroyed, not to be waiting even longer they have even longer than they have already. okay. >> andrew lewin, thank you very much for joining in >> andrew lewin, thank you very much forjoining in the much for joining us in the studio. it's always pleasure. studio. it's always a pleasure. thank you. there's lots more still and still to come between now and 4:00. discuss the 4:00. we'll discuss the controversial north oil and controversial north sea oil and gas bill that has already led to one but one tory mp resigning. but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines wenzler. headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thank you. martin it's 332. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister says he'd strongly support a decision to revoke the former post office bosses. cbe paula

vennells routinely denied there were problems with the horizon it system , which made it look it system, which made it look like money was missing from shops. hundreds of staff were convicted, jailed, bankrupted and some took their lives after they were wrongly accused of theft . the justice secretary and theft. the justice secretary and post office minister are now looking at how to help those who were up scandal, a were caught up in the scandal, a former minister, chris skidmore, has formally resigned as an mp in protest over plans to prioritise and politicise new oil and gas licences. it comes as mps are preparing to debate the offshore petroleum bill this afternoon . if it passes, the afternoon. if it passes, the legislation will mandate that licences for oil and gas projects in the north sea are awarded annually . fresh ice awarded annually. fresh ice warnings have been issued for parts of britain as temperatures plummet and snow and sleet showers hit the country. the met office has issued yellow alerts for southern england and south wales, effective until tomorrow morning. an amber cold health alert has also been issued for

parts of england, with a cold snap set to continue throughout the week . sir keir starmer is the week. sir keir starmer is visiting flood hit areas in the east midlands. it's after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings . asleep at the wheel over flood warnings. more than 160 remain in place across the country, and over 1800 properties have been damaged . and actor idris elba is damaged. and actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban on machetes and so—called zombie knives . the hollywood star spoke knives. the hollywood star spoke to the families of victims as he launched his don't stop your future campaign, folded outfits, each representing someone who has died through knife crime, is being displayed in parliament square central london. last square in central london. last summer, the home office said tougher measures on the weapons would be introduced, but legislation hasn't yet passed . legislation hasn't yet passed. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . for website at gbnews.com. for stunning gold and silver coins,

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over plans, as he said, to prioritise and politicise new oil and gas licences and that has triggered a by—election in his kingswood constituency . his kingswood constituency. well, join me now to discuss. this is a economics and business edhon this is a economics and business editor, liam halligan with on the money . so a liam editor, liam halligan with on the money. so a liam a editor, liam halligan with on the money . so a liam a debate we the money. so a liam a debate we have often on this show energy sovereignty me being self—reliant . the government is self—reliant. the government is about to grant licences , but about to grant licences, but it's all kicking off. >> it is all kicking off. chris skidmore, of course, is one of the mps that was heavily involved in theresa may's original climate change bill. he actually formally signed it over recent years. he's made himself a pretty penny aside from his mp salary, doing green jobs, working for various parts of the renewable energy industry, earning hundreds of thousands of pounds. i guess he wants to do a bit more of that. nice work if you can get it. but underneath this debate in the commons today is a really serious debate about

our energy security, which will translate into the cost of energy as well as and when geopolitical pressures mount. and we've seen a lot of those geo political pressures in recent years, not least war between russia and ukraine. and now, of course , lots of, uh, now, of course, lots of, uh, conflict , nation of now, of course, lots of, uh, conflict, nation of turmoil across the middle east with the heightening of the conflict between israel and hamas. but i think it's worth me pointing out as a as a sort of objective economist, somebody who follows the oil and gas industry quite closely, just how important the nonh closely, just how important the north sea is to this country, because i don't think the point is made often enough. i've got a few little factoids here up on the screen for you, martin. it wouldn't be the same to have an on the money without a graphic, would it? and here we see the uk oil and gas industry. there are about active north sea oil about 300 active north sea oil and gas fields. a high and gas fields. it's a high number and over half of those are scheduled cease are scheduled to cease production by 2030. oh but north sea oil isn't very important. i often hear politicians say,

really ? the north sea provides really? the north sea provides 83. martin of the oil and oil that we use , and 54% of the gas that we use, and 54% of the gas that we use, and 54% of the gas that we use . as for transport, that we use. as for transport, heating our homes and industry and oil and gas combined, and far from being free of oil and gas, oil and gas combined provides 75% of all the uk's energy. crucially if you include transportation , that's a huge transportation, that's a huge number. labour. on top of that, martin keir starmer said that he wants to cease all new north sea oil and gas licences . well guess oil and gas licences. well guess what the trade unions of course, pay what the trade unions of course, pay labour lots of money. don't like that. the gmb, the third biggest union, they have literally thousands of members who work in the oil and gas industry. aberdeen is, of course, the oil and gas capital of europe. uh hundred of thousands of people in this country work in the oil and gas industry, either extracting oil and gas processing, refining, distributing oil and gas. it's a massive part of our economy , and massive part of our economy, and that's why , although the likes

that's why, although the likes of chris skidmore want to demonstrate their green credentials, although although the likes of alex sharma, who of course was the cabinet minister in charge of that cop summit in glasgow a couple of years ago , glasgow a couple of years ago, now almost in 2022, they're saying they're resigning . saying they're resigning. they're, i imagine, looking for jobs in the green economy . but jobs in the green economy. but an awful lot of mps will be saying hang on in this new realistic debate that we've got oven realistic debate that we've got over, uh, net zero and climate change, we now see that there are huge costs. and those costs , are huge costs. and those costs, who's going to pay them when will they be paid? you know, how much will they be? all these aspects of net zero, all these aspects of net zero, all these aspects of net zero, all these aspects of getting a cleaner environment which of course we all want are now coming to the fore and not a moment too soon. >> and in terms of the cost, i mean, it just seems insane that we're importing like 14 billion quid's worth of gas per year and keir starmer , as energy policy keir starmer, as energy policy seems to be just stop oil.

>> well, not only do imported oil and gas , uh uh, reliance on oil and gas, uh uh, reliance on imported oil and gas, it raises energy security issues. it raises price issues, of course, but it also raises net zero issues. how so? well, because if you rely on what we call lng , you rely on what we call lng, uquefied you rely on what we call lng, liquefied natural gas from america , which we have been america, which we have been increasingly , that involves huge increasingly, that involves huge carbon emissions. why because you need an awful lot of energy to get the gas in america and turn it into a liquid. and then it's put on a ship, and then that ship goes 3000 miles across the atlantic in a diesel powered container ship, and then it has to be regasified. and here in the uk, either for our use or export to europe. and again, that regasification uses up a lot of energy, you know, credible scientists have said that liquefied natural gas from america is involves five times more carbon emissions if used in the uk than using our own north sea oil and gas. so if you if you accept that that we need oil

and gas and even the climate change commission, the government's own internal green watchdog, if you like, even they acknowledged that by 2050 we'll still be using oil and gas for 25, 30% of our energy needs. under the best case scenario for the rollout of renewables . if we the rollout of renewables. if we need that oil and gas , then it need that oil and gas, then it makes sense financially in terms of carbon emissions and in terms of carbon emissions and in terms of energy security. the oil and gas industry would say to use our own. and i think an awful lot of politicians, while they don't want to be seen as sort of antediluvian or dinosaurs when it comes to this green debate, these realities are now coming to the fore . which is why this to the fore. which is why this vote in the commons, i think, will be close . will be close. >> great stuff liam halligan always a pleasure with on the money. okay, let's bring you some breaking news now. the royal navy is deploying a third warship to the gulf region amid growing tensions and attacks on shipping in the red sea . in shipping in the red sea. in a statement to parliament, defence secretary grant shapps confirmed

that the type 23 frigates hms richmon and will join two other royal navy vessels on policing dufiesin royal navy vessels on policing duties in the region . hms duties in the region. hms lancaster, another type 23 frigate and the type 45 destroyer hms diamond are currently protecting shipping in the busy waters around the red sea. following regular attacks by iranian backed houthi rebels in yemen . now, national divorce in yemen. now, national divorce day. yippeei would you believe that more people split up today than any other day of the year ? than any other day of the year? i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel .

michael portillo, gb news britain's news channel earlier with eamonn and isabel. 321 launch i wouldn't mind a banana, nigel. >> i like banana and toast. >> i like banana and toast. >> yeah, that'd be nice. yeah >> yeah, that'd be nice. yeah >> do you like banana on toast? >> do you like banana on toast? >> i love sandwiches, touch of cinnamon as well. >> now you have to spoil it. >> now you have to spoil it. >> you have to spoil it. marriages more of them are breaking and they break breaking down and they break down today. this day, this first working day january working day of january than other times of the year. >> a large number of people , >> a large number of people, irrespective of the cost of living which hugely living crisis, which is hugely florid the moment, who will florid at the moment, who will just simply say emotionally this is too much of a toll for me to take. >> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join .

us. >> welcome back! it's 346. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news live from westminster. now at 4:00 i'll discuss sadiq khan bowing to pressure from unions and ask, is this what life would look like under a labour government now? a cold weather alert has been issued by the uk health security agency, while the met office has put out yet another yellow weather warning with snow showers set to hit parts of the country. some areas of the south—east have already seen snow today, while some parts of the country are under water following storm henk last week . following storm henk last week. well join me now from loughborough. is gb news, east midlands reporter will hollis will, thanks for joining us. midlands reporter will hollis will, thanks forjoining us. it will, thanks for joining us. it never rains but it pours. what's the latest from loughborough . the latest from loughborough. >> yes. well the good news is that there is only one flood alert in place now here in loughborough. here in the east midlands. but this was one of the places that was devastated by floods after storm henk. and

this was actually one of the places that the labour leader keir starmer visited. he was actually along this canal earlier today. you can see that the canal level is quite steadily falling , certainly from steadily falling, certainly from where it was only a few days ago. and some of the people that saw how bad the flooding got here in loughborough was caroline and stacey, who are from the boat in the local pub here. you were here when it started to flood in this part of the leicestershire county, you didn't flood but you were here when it was. what was it like? well i was awoken like early hours to the chap hours of the morning to the chap on the boat because the boat was on the boat because the boat was on towpath. on the towpath. >> so i came down, switched the lights it was just lights on and it was just absolute manic. there was panic everywhere the water risen everywhere. the water had risen under the bridge, as you've just seen. that was you couldn't see the canal for the path. and it's sort of like stopped just up there . and then obviously the there. and then obviously the boat was here. we had to get that back in because it's on its side. we pushed . there's a side. so we pushed. there's a few of pushed that back in. few of us pushed that back in.

then down there . if you can then just down there. if you can see the sandbags there was a little cut we call the cut and it was absolutely pouring through there and it was taking me off my feet . so i was trying me off my feet. so i was trying to get people out, rescue people and get them to safety. here i was ringing a bell and shouting, you know, that we're open. >> and it was about 100 homes that flooded here about 300 in leicestershire, i think leicestershire, about, i think it's 2000 across england, but we've seen the labour leader here today and he actually came in and spoke to you. what did you hear from sir keir starmer today? >> he was horrified. i don't think he could believe how much damage it had actually caused and the amount of people that were out of homes that were out of their homes that like he said, there were people without you know, without insurance. so, you know, they've not just lost everything. they can't even replace it because they've got no . no insurance. >> was talking about >> it's he was talking about a flood prevention plan rather than just reacting to floods . than just reacting to floods. were you happy to see the labour leader or is it a politician? is the last person you want to see

in a community that's been flooded, or do you want to see politicians at a time of emergency? >> um, i was quite shocked, to be fair, that he was actually coming. think he would be fair, that he was actually cominhimself. think he would be fair, that he was actually cominhimself. so 1ink he would be fair, that he was actually cominhimself. so 1ink h itwould be fair, that he was actually comin himself. so 1ink h it just d come himself. so yeah, it just shows that there's a lot of support the mps. so yeah, support from the mps. so yeah, i was quite pleased to see him. good to see the politicians part of it. >> e! e is the response >> now, stacey, is the response from helping people have from helping people that have been affected just tell me a little bit about what you've been the community. been doing for the community. >> so on wednesday day, after all the homes been flooded all the homes have been flooded and realised it was and everybody realised it was all flooded, we went out, um, basically around to see what everybody needed and everything . everybody needed and everything. so sister decided to so me and my sister decided to go and do a shop. so we had at least ten of everything. so we could parcels and then could do food parcels and then most of the community came down, started clothes , started donating clothes, blankets, quilts , food, blankets, quilts, food, toiletries , cleaning products, toiletries, cleaning products, everything. and we also had the red cross come down to help with like mop buckets , uh, sweeping like mop buckets, uh, sweeping brushes and we had the salvation army come and help as well. so

we had lots of help from all the community all around . community all around. >> yeah, it seems that this is a real, uh, show that you need a pub . you need local place for pub. you need a local place for people come not just for people to come to, not just for a not just time to a drink, not just time to socialise, but actually , um, a socialise, but actually, um, a place come in emergency as place to come in emergency as well. martin >> thank you, hollis, and good luck to all at the boat inn. now more marriages break down in january than at any other time of the year. so much so that the first working january first working monday in january is often dubbed national divorce day. january over day. throughout january over 40,500 people in the uk are expected to search for online divorce and near 25% increase. this gb news london reporter lisa hartle explains. more. >> january is usually the busiest time for divorce lawyers, as people reflect on their lives and consider what changes they want to make . but changes they want to make. but due to the cost of living crisis, this year could be different. >> well, traditionally , monday >> well, traditionally, monday is described as divorce day because it's seen a huge spike in referrals to divorce lawyers

as people have spent arguably extended periods of time with their loved ones over the christmas period. so much so that they have ceased to be their loved ones. and they have probably decided , actually, i probably decided, actually, i can take no more christmases with this person. >> neil russell, a family law solicitor, says they get the most divorce inquiries in january , but financial pressures january, but financial pressures mean some people are delaying proceedings, what with the growing utility costs , which are growing utility costs, which are burdening families on their own. >> two, lots of those utility costs are even more difficult to manage . the other factor is manage. the other factor is a big factor are mortgages. they want out of their marriage, but sadly the finances do not always permit for them to do so. the other thing that we've noticed nowadays, can't nowadays, where people can't necessarily afford to get divorced , is a nesting divorced, is a nesting arrangement whereby the parents take it in terms of, say, renting a cheaper property where they share the occupation, or for 2 or 3 days a week. so the kids don't have to move. but the

parents move in and out. >> research from legal and general has found more than 270,000 couples have delayed splitting due to financial pressures . pressures. >> pressures. >> 1 in 5 19% of pressures. >> 1 in 519% of our sample of recent divorces were delayed due to financial reasons. so, you know, the kind of common financial worries around the cost of divorce proceedings , but cost of divorce proceedings, but also about what will happen to their income as a result and so much uncertainty in market around the economic conditions and whether or not people will even have jobs going forward. but psychologist lucy beresford says that she finds this research doesn't match her experience with clients . experience with clients. >> we've actually had other moments in time where you would have thought things might have compromised people's ability to get a divorce. we had had the financial crisis in 2009 ten. we had a housing crisis, so people found it harder to move house and create two households. we also had the pandemic where people couldn't leave their

house, and yet divorces still happened. and i suspect that what's going to happen is that actually there will still be a large number of people , large number of people, irrespective of the cost of living crisis , which is hugely living crisis, which is hugely florid at the moment, who will just simply say emotionally, this is too much of a toll for me to take. >> with the financial situation still so difficult for so many , still so difficult for so many, it could be some time yet before unhappy couples finally get the divorce they want . lisa hartle divorce they want. lisa hartle gb news london. >> now there's a lot of pressure on people to have perfect, happy marriages. unfortunately the world isn't a perfect, happy place and if you break up and you're happy , why not do it now? you're happy, why not do it now? the lib dem leader, ed davey, says the post office lie to him. when scandal was first when the scandal was first brought to his post's attention. when the scandal was first brotmartin his post's attention. when the scandal was first brotmartin daubney; attention. when the scandal was first brotmartin daubney on tention. when the scandal was first brotmartin daubney on gbtion. when the scandal was first brotmartin daubney on gb news, i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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jazz , a concerned local who tell jazz, a concerned local who tell us why he thinks this is completely the wrong location. and as usual, i want to hear from you all the usual ways email me gbviews@gbnews.com. we've got lots more to come this houn we've got lots more to come this hour, including labour day. the strike is off and a sadiq khan. but is that a taste of things to come in the latest of course on all of the floods in a few minutes time, but first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middleton . east. martins polly middleton. east. martins thank you and good afternoon to you. >> well, the top story today from the gb newsroom is that the prime minister says he'd strongly support a decision to revoke the former post office boss's cbe . paula vennells, boss's cbe. paula vennells, routinely denied there were problems with the horizon it

system, which made it look like money was missing from post office branches. hundreds of staff, as a result, were convicted, jailed, bankrupted and some even took their own lives after they were wrongly accused of theft. the justice secretary and post office minister are now looking at how to help those caught up in the scandal. one of the victims, christopher head , says he christopher head, says he doesn't believe the fault lies with just one person. you look back over the years that you know there is obviously people in fujitsu. >> there is people in government or ministers or even, you know, civil servants that maybe tried to have damage limitation, let's say, in to order try and make this a hope that it would go away. there's countless away. so there's countless number of people you had previous at post office previous ceos at post office of adam there's you adam crozier. there's you know, there's just there's the list is endless. so need the inquiry endless. so we need the inquiry to finish. so we get to the bottom of that and obviously for the police to do their the met police to do their investigation, christopher head well, economic to secretary investigation, christopher head wel treasury, nomic to secretary investigation, christopher head weltreasury, bim c to secretary investigation, christopher head weltreasury, bim afolami �*etary investigation, christopher head weltreasury, bim afolami ,tary investigation, christopher head weltreasury, bim afolami , says the treasury, bim afolami, says the treasury, bim afolami, says

the government is working as quickly as it can to compensate the victims. >> it's worth saying that everybody involved with the post office horizon scandal, 100% of them have received interim payments of over £168,000. that isn't enough , but that's an isn't enough, but that's an interim payment. we've brought forward a bill going through parliament, show clear parliament, show clear parliament in the next week or so that we don't have to wait for the results of the inquiry so that we can get this compensation paid in full as soon possible. soon as possible. >> labour mp kevin >> meanwhile, labour mp kevin jones is pushing for emergency legislation to exonerate the victims completely . victims completely. >> it's what i've come to expect over the years, uh, from the post office. it's been lies and cover ups all along. uh but the key point is we've got to get these convictions overturned because they're quite clearly unsafe . unsafe. >> and the liberal democrats leader , sir ed davey, who was leader, sir ed davey, who was a postal affairs minister at the time , denies any wrongdoing . time, denies any wrongdoing. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now . the post office

all know now. the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another ministers . and to me. another ministers. and when i met adam bates and listened to his concerns , i put listened to his concerns, i put those concerns to the officials in my department, to the post office, to national federations office, to national federations of postmasters. and it's clear they all were lying to me. >> it's ed davey . well, in other >> it's ed davey. well, in other news today, chris skidmore has formally resigned as an mp, triggering another by—election. the government's former net zero tsar quit in protest over what he says are plans to prioritise and politicise his new oil and gas licences . that's as mps gas licences. that's as mps prepare to debate the offshore petroleum bill this afternoon. if it passes the legislation will mandate that licences for oil and gas projects in the nonh oil and gas projects in the north sea are awarded annually , north sea are awarded annually, be another warship is being deployed to the gulf region by the royal navy amid growing tensions and attacks on shipping in the red sea . defence in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps

confirming that hms richmond will join two other royal navy vessels on policing duties in the region . multiple attacks the region. multiple attacks have been launched towards commercial shipping in the region , with houthi rebels region, with houthi rebels claiming the attacks are aimed at vessels linked to israel . the at vessels linked to israel. the here at home fresh ice warnings have been issued for parts of britain as temperatures plummet and snow and sleet showers hit the country. the met office has in fact issued yellow alerts for southern england and southern wales, effective until tomorrow morning. an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england, with the cold snap set to continue throughout the week . and sir keir starmer the week. and sir keir starmer has visited. flood hit east midlands regions today, promising that a labour government would do more to protect people's homes. it's after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings. more than 160 remain in place across the country, and over 1800 properties have been damaged . this isn't the first

damaged. this isn't the first time i've been out to talk to residents in this situation . residents in this situation. >> i've got to get ahead of this and that means earlier in the yeanin and that means earlier in the year, in the autumn, having a task force that brings together local authorities, the emergency response and local people to ensure that the prevention work is done. some of the drains that are being cleaned could have are now being cleaned could have been cleaned beforehand . the been cleaned beforehand. the response quick enough, so response wasn't quick enough, so i just don't think it's good enough the government to enough for the government to come the event again and come after the event again and express empathy . get ahead of express empathy. get ahead of this with a task force. that's what i would do . what i would do. >> it's keir starmer now. the actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban of machetes and so—called zombie knives. the hollywood actor spoke to the families of victims as he launched his don't stop your future campaign . folded outfits. future campaign. folded outfits. each one representing someone who's died through knife crime are being displayed in parliament square in central london today . and idris elba london today. and idris elba saying although deterrence is like stop and search powers are working to some degree, much

more needs to be done. it makes me feel sad as a society that we aren't putting as much focus as we should be on, on on stopping this. >> okay . and i just, i think >> okay. and i just, i think today's campaign launch is about just re re um, energising the government to think about this re—energise ing our society to think about this as a group and say, all right, how can we stop this? >> idris elba, now a private lunar lander launched from the united states this morning, has suffered what they're calling a technical problem. the issue has prevented it from pointing its solar panels. apparently with some stability at the sun. without the ability to charge his batteries and maintain a power supply, the mission won't be able to continue. experts are trying to resolve the issue. the peregrine mission one, as it's known, is aiming to become the first us spacecraft to make a soft landing on the moon in half a century. it was expected to land on february . the 23rd.

land on february. the 23rd. that's the news on gb news across the uk , on tv, in your across the uk, on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> nike poly. now we start this hour with a massive climbdown by sadiq khan that could just be a taste of things to come under a future labour government , the future labour government, the mayor of london has made more money available for tube workers , causing rmt general secretary mick lynch to call off a strike that would have been brought to the network to a standstill this week. from today, rmt week. from today, in fact, rmt members were due to walk out from today until the end of the week in protest at an inflation busting 5% pay offer. but this morning, former downing street chief of staff nick timothy warned that a labour government would do huge damage to the nation's finances. would do huge damage to the nation's finances . well, i'm

nation's finances. well, i'm joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley, so on the one hand, olivia, um, can would have been damned if he did damned if he didn't. he said there'd be no strikes under him as london mayor, there have been as london mayor, there have been a shedload of strikes. this one was narrowly avoided. people are saying, was it because he's bowing to his union paymasters ? bowing to his union paymasters? >> well, this is always going to be a problem for labour politicians in positions of power. the labour party is interlinked with the union movement and sadiq khan may well have found himself under pressure from the unions to give in to that pay demand from tube drivers. on the other hand, i mean, you could argue that labour has a better relationship with the unions than the conservatives and there are those who think that working starmer in power, we would have seen fewer strikes over the last 18 months than we've seen under the conservatives. that article you mentioned by nick timothy, former downing street adviser and telegraph columnist, now in the telegraph this morning, is

very interesting indeed. he points to some of the promises made by rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor she says that under labour and keir starmer repeats this message a lot . uh, repeats this message a lot. uh, we would be we would be have a tighter fiscal rules and the economy would be kept in check. she wants to reduce debt as a proportion of gdp . uh, and she proportion of gdp. uh, and she wants to see, uh, day to day spending, not funded by borrowing . nick timothy points borrowing. nick timothy points out that that's all very well, but actually labour could well find their own loopholes around that. gordon brown , too, that. gordon brown, too, promised not to use debt, not to use borrowed to fund day to day spending . but he found an spending. but he found an enormous loophole by essentially reclassifying a lot of day to day spending as investment and then using borrowing to fund that. and of course, labour has made a lot of promises, a lot of very, very expensive promises, huge plans on education to roll

out far more, uh, early years places in nursing , schools places in nursing, schools attached to primary schools for pretty much all children between nine months and four years. a huge plans uh, on the environment . they want to launch environment. they want to launch this new green economy . and this new green economy. and they've promised hundreds and hundreds of thousands of jobs as a result of this new green economy. all of these things are very expensive indeed . and at very expensive indeed. and at the moment, their plan to fund it seems to be by, uh, cutting the vat exemption for private schools. nice idea. you might think, but how many times over has that money been promised? a different causes. so, rachel reeves and keir starmer are going to struggle to stick to the rules that they've set themselves on national debt and on, uh, borrowing for day to day spending. nick timothy thinks that it can't be done. you might say. he would say that he was theresa may's adviser. he's standing to be a labour mp. but it's an interesting question, and one which i think we're going hear a lot more about going to hear a lot more about in months as labour in the coming months as labour gets and closer to

government. >> and indeed, nick, timothy says the trouble with labour governments, says the trouble with labour governmethatcher, that they margaret thatcher, is that they eventually run out of other people's money. and he points to the that that's precisely the fact that that's precisely what happened to labour governments 1970, 79 and governments in 51, 1970, 79 and 2010. clever the biscuit 2010. how clever the biscuit tins pretty empty now under a tory government. >> well , i see where tory government. >> well, i see where you're coming from. and i think that that's that's an argument. we'll see keir starmer making a lot too. yes. he's made a lot of very expensive promises, but you could say could things get much worse economically in britain under the conservatives we now have the highest tax burden in 70 years since world war two. and keir starmer argues that because of his good relations with business, because of his sort of cautious blairite approach to the economy, we would actually be better off under a labour government than a conservative government. and he basically believes that if he keeps saying that message , it's keeps saying that message, it's very hard for people to point to aspects of life where they

aspects of their life where they are financially better off than they were 13 years ago. which kind of undermines the conservative case for being the party of sound money. >> indeed. does. olivia utley, thank you very much for joining us in the studio. and to take this debate further, this debate to stage further, i'm now joined by former labour mp stephen pound. stephen thank you for joining mp stephen pound. stephen thank you forjoining us on the show. you for joining us on the show. always a pleasure, stephen. of course, nick, timothy would say the problem with labour is that they they eventually run out of other people's money, but it does seem a little bit suspect, don't you think , that, um, a don't you think, that, um, a last minute strike was averted by sadiq khan doing a deal with the rmt? is this a taste of what's to come under a potential future labour government? bowing to endless strikes, having to cough up loads of money to dodge them? >> well, no, you simply couldn't get away with it. there's no way that you could conduct industrial relations by just just, know, putting, putting industrial relations by just just, and (now, putting, putting industrial relations by just just, and (now, money, putting industrial relations by just just, and (now, money othting industrial relations by just just, and (now, money on theg more and more money on the table. just simply doesn't table. it just simply doesn't work that way. the reality work that way. look, the reality is, people, olivia is, when we hear people, olivia

is, when we hear people, olivia is a very, very is normally does a very, very good on these matters. good analysis on these matters. but the reality is that the early years money going to early years money is going to come the vat come from the removing the vat from commercial sector in from the commercial sector in education. for the green education. and as for the green taxing the billion that was taxing the 38 billion that was announced two years before announced two years ago before truss the economy, quite truss trashed the economy, quite frankly , you can't operate frankly, you can't operate economics today on what happened. you know , without happened. you know, without without recognising what happened a few days ago. but happened a few few days ago. but look, back to this, we look, getting back to this, we don't know the terms the don't know what the terms of the deal if khan can deal are. if sadiq khan can actually do a deal with the rmt and ultimately aslef, because aslef will be champing aslef obviously will be champing at will do at the bit now, will he do a deal at the bit now, will he do a deal, maybe to actually reduce some staffing some some leasing staffing levels increase flexibility levels to increase flexibility things? there's something things? if there's something in it commuters of london, it for the commuters of london, then fair play to him. then i think fair play to him. but people i've spoken to but most people i've spoken to today, travelling on the tube today, travelling on the tube today, just so glad that the tube strike is off because this is the day they're back at is the first day they're back at school. many people have just come back to work. have come back to work. it would have been had an been a disaster if we'd had an underground today. at underground strike today. so at the think sadiq is the moment i think sadiq is doing he should do as mayor doing what he should do as mayor of is keeping london

moving. >> yeah, but keeping london moving at a price. if moving comes at a price. if there's pay which has there's a 5% pay offer which has to be funded, presumably out of central london, the mayor's pot. and isn't that the problem moving forward, if the labour party are elected, you'd have the you have the junior doctors queuing up, nhs workers , queuing up, nhs workers, teachers, everybody in the pubuc teachers, everybody in the public sector will demand a slice of that pie and the fact of the matter is where nick, timothy is half right, is that the labour party might run out of other people's money, but the conservative party have completely run out of other people's money where £2.6 trillion in debt. stephen so the spectre of the 1970s style strikes coming back and the labour with no public money to fund it is terrifying. people >> well, it shouldn't terrify people. i mean , what's happening people. i mean, what's happening is that people are trying to build this up as a straw man because in all honesty, you know, i know, martin, you've know, and i know, martin, you've been elected. i've been elected. you know, i've been elected. you know, i've been elected. you know, i've been elected. there's demands on you. and night, and you. morning noon and night, and you. morning noon and night, and

you we all you can't meet them all. we all know that. but look, let's get one thing absolutely straight. when say the biscuit tin when people say the biscuit tin is money. is empty, there's no money. just look westminster, which look at hms westminster, which the government have just spent billions actually upgrading, and now they're mothballing it. there a fantastic of there is a fantastic waste of money in parliament the money in parliament at the present why are we not present time. why are we not collecting more the collecting more tax from the non—doms? we not non—doms? why are we not actually enforcing regulations against people who are dodging paying against people who are dodging paying you know, paying tax? there's you know, when estimate the percentage when you estimate the percentage of which dodged of the tax take which is dodged by can afford to pay by people who can afford to pay for extremely expensive accountants, bring that into mind. mod into mind. bring the mod into account, all things account, bring all those things into i think into account. and then i think we're a much, much more rosy we're in a much, much more rosy situation now. i'm not saying that person that every single person knocking door. think in knocking on the door. i think in all the junior doctors all honesty, the junior doctors wanting 35, i mean, they got wanting 35, i mean, if they got 35, be paying more in tax 35, they'd be paying more in tax because get dragged into 35, they'd be paying more in tax bec higher get dragged into 35, they'd be paying more in tax bec higher tax get dragged into 35, they'd be paying more in tax bec higher tax band. ragged into 35, they'd be paying more in tax bec higher tax band. they'd into the higher tax band. they'd suffer know, you suffer from, you know, what you described drag . so described as fiscal drag. so i don't think there's any question about as far as about that. but look, as far as i'm , let's see the i'm concerned, let's see the devil in the detail with sadiq, what he's done with lynch, what he's done with mick lynch, what he's done with mick lynch, what and what he's what he's done and what he's going do going to obviously do with aslef. if he's managed to aslef. but if he's managed to get some flexibility in the

get some more flexibility in the working, get improved working, managed to get improved working, managed to get improved working you working times, maybe even, you know, working on know, sunday working on a rostered basis , then if he's rostered basis, then if he's done that on a sunday basis, all well and good. i'm prepared to support and think that's support that. and i think that's a thing for a mayor of a sensible thing for a mayor of london who's not just the mayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london,o's not just the mayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london, butiot just the mayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london, but he's|st the mayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london, but he's headz mayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london, but he's head ofiayor a sensible thing for a mayor of lo london, but he's head of tfl,�* of london, but he's head of tfl, transport london as well. if transport for london as well. if he's done that, then i'll support him for that. but do you think a of people are quite think a lot of people are quite rightly the that, rightly afraid of the fact that, you know, strikes could paralyse the no money the nation if there's no money to pay them? >> how would labour >> and how would the labour party moving into kind of party were moving into kind of different territory? now people don't old days of don't remember the old days of the 70s and the 80s. i do , and the 70s and the 80s. i do, and it was a period where the nation just ground a halt and just ground to a halt and without that money, i mean that that note that was left by liam byrne to david cameron. i'm sorry, there's no money left. that was a frugal 97 billion in debt. now a 2.6 trillion. the fear is increased strike demands no money to pay it. taxation might force people to clear off out the country and were heading back to the future. the bad old

days of the 70s. well two things if i can say to that every single financial secretary to the since reginald the treasurer since reginald maudling in 1964 has left a message like that to his successor, reginald maudling's message 1964 sorry old. message in 1964 was sorry old. >> he was a colloquial >> well, he was a colloquial expression. left a bottle of expression. he left a bottle of champagne, said, there's no champagne, he said, there's no cash single cash left. every single chancellor of the exchequer. and it's been labour, tory, it's always been labour, tory, laboun it's always been labour, tory, labour. david labour. it wasn't until david laws came into in 2010, laws came into post in 2010, a liberal, that he took it, and he actually thought that this was a serious note. so let's park that. was just doing serious note. so let's park that. every was just doing serious note. so let's park that. every singlenas just doing serious note. so let's park that. every single anthonydoing what every single anthony barber, jenkins, every other barber, roy jenkins, every other chancellor the exchequer had chancellor of the exchequer had done. look, the key thing done. but look, the key thing here is, in all honesty, you're talking about going back to in place strife, you're going place of strife, you're going back to the winter discontent back to the winter of discontent that 80s. that was the 70s and the 80s. look at labour government look at the labour government between 1997 2010. we lost between 1997 and 2010. we lost more. sorry. we had more working days and less strike days than any government since the any other government since the war. managed to actually war. we managed to actually negotiate and keep the country running, and didn't do it. by running, and we didn't do it. by inaya bevan expression inaya nye bevan expression choking mouths with gold .

choking their mouths with gold. we by sensible, serious we did it by sensible, serious negotiation talking about negotiation and talking about terms and conditions of service. so just don't judge us by what we say. judge us by what we did. and 1997 2010, just look and in 1997 to 2010, just look at the number strike days at the number of strike days that lost. they're less that were lost. they're less than they are, a great deal less than they are, a great deal less than are at the present time. >> okay. well, let's hope you're being optimistic reason being optimistic for good reason there. very much, there. thank you very much, stephen for even standing stephen pound, for even standing for election. >> still going well. >> well, he's still going well. >> well, he's still going well. >> spoke >> earlier i spoke to conservative deputy party conservative party deputy party chair lee anderson chair chairman lee anderson about suspension of the tube about the suspension of the tube strikes. and let's hear his view. >> this is the hypocrisy of carney see a cleaner, carney wants to see a cleaner, cleaner atmosphere , cleaner air. cleaner atmosphere, cleaner air. i to down to london i had to drive down to london last i thought i had to drive down to london last going i thought i had to drive down to london last going be! thought i had to drive down to london last going be strikesht i had to drive down to london last going be strikes on there's going to be strikes on in london. i don't think in london. uh, i don't think it's certainly my of the it's certainly my neck of the woods. martin is not taken seriously, but in london it seems seems untouchable. seems he seems untouchable. all, uh. needs a grip, uh. but he needs to get a grip, because i believe that part of his manifesto when he got elected last time was no strikes in london. and we've plenty in london. and we've seen plenty of the of strikes, and it's to the detriment the great people of detriment of the great people of london. now we have it.

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later this hour we'll discuss the home office's decision to use a luxury block of flats in hampshire in farnborough to house around 300 migrants. i spoke to two local earlier on and i spoke to the councillor, the leader of the of the council , on friday. locals were not consulted. they're absolutely disgusted, um, that this accommodation has been given away and locals can't afford to get on the property ladder. in fact, they're moving out of the area altogether and they have some choice. words from jazz , a some choice. words from jazz, a local coming up soon. but moving on now, spending on disability benefits is set to rise by an astonishing £17 billion a year by 2030. and that's according to official forecasts , the number official forecasts, the number official forecasts, the number of people claiming for such benefits has more than doubled since the pandemic , with mental since the pandemic, with mental health issues including anxiety and depression said to be the leading causes as well. join me now to discuss . leading causes as well. join me now to discuss. this is

leading causes as well. join me now to discuss . this is our now to discuss. this is our economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money liam halligan with on the money liam okay, liam. so here we go. this is something that we've we've seen coming for a long time. the budget is more than doubled since the pandemic. time. the budget is more than doubled since the pandemic . a doubled since the pandemic. a lot of people are thinking sick. note britain is taking hold costing a heck of a lot of money. an extra £17 billion a yeah money. an extra £17 billion a year. mental health being signs, a lot of people saying mental health is the new bad back. whatever the reason is, this is unsustainable and unaffordable. >> so what we've got we've got newspaper reports of internal forecasts from the department forecasts from the department for work and pensions now , you for work and pensions now, you know, i wouldn't be the journalist i am if i didn't remark that often . whitehall remark that often. whitehall forecasts get leaked to newspapers in order to try and influence budget outcomes. so particular departments get more money. but no one is saying that what the department of work and pension forecasts are pointing to isn't a real issue . and the to isn't a real issue. and the real issue is because we've got an ageing population, because

there's a lot more emphasis on mental health, the amount of money we're going to spend on disability benefit is going to go disability benefit is going to 9° up disability benefit is going to go up a huge amount. it's going to go up by about 50% between now and 2030, according to the dwp. that's from £31 billion a yean dwp. that's from £31 billion a year, up to £48 billion a year, which is sort of getting on for what we spend on defence. believe it or not 5.5 million people will currently claim sickness and disability benefit. martin. that's going to go up by 2030, according to these department of work and pensions internal forecasts, which somehow saw the light of day to 7.6 million people, that will be getting on for 1 7.6 million people, that will be getting on for1 in 9 of the total population, not just people of working age crazy. >> and it's also highlighting a chronic job vacancies issue , chronic job vacancies issue, because, of course, people are often finding now it pays more to not work so long terms sick as opposed to doing what they would call work that's beneath

them. we have this terrible dilemma of a huge fiscal bill for benefits, and we're unable to get those jobs done. and therefore all the calls for, well, more migration to solve the problem. >> this one of the long time >> this is one of the long time implications of the pandemic. look, shut down the look, when you shut down the economy for 18 months, has economy for 18 months, it has long implications. it has long terms implications. it has long terms implications. it has long firm implications on people's health because they didn't go to the nhs because they were told to. not so they've up with terminal they've ended up with terminal cancen they've ended up with terminal cancer. has long terme cancer. it has long terme implications on children who didn't go to school. and they lost that 1 2 school years. lost that 1 or 2 school years. and students , by the way, who and students, by the way, who didn't get to go to university when they thought they would. lots and of implications. lots and lots of implications. and is on the and a big implication is on the world work, working from home world of work, working from home is with us. it's never going to change. in some senses, change. now, in some senses, that's a thing. if you can that's a good thing. if you can work from home, if you've got a desk bound job, if you can use wi—fi, there's some efficiencies there. as as you don't work there. as long as you don't work from all the time. i'm not from home. all the time. i'm not saying aren't saying there aren't efficiencies, also there's saying there aren't effici

health. people claiming that they're for work, they're not fit for work, getting off a sick by getting signed off a sick by doctors. it will take a pretty hard hearted doctor. many would say, to not give people a sick note for mental health when they say that they've got mental health conditions. and of course, employers are worried about employees becoming litigious trying to for sue litigious and trying to for sue ignonng litigious and trying to for sue ignoring mental health issues. so really becoming a so this really is becoming a major part of society. and these numbers out from the dwp and as i say quite often, whitehall forecasts get leaked for political reasons . forecasts get leaked for political reasons. i'm forecasts get leaked for political reasons . i'm not political reasons. i'm not saying that's happening in this case.i saying that's happening in this case. i don't know. uh, but we are, of course, coming up to a budget settlement. uh, the day of the budget, the spring statement was announced over the christmas holiday . statement was announced over the christmas holiday. going christmas holiday. it's going to be 6th, and you know, be march the 6th, and you know, a week later, you get these forecasts from the department of work pensions saying that work and pensions saying that spending and spending on sickness and disability going to disability benefit is going to go disability benefit is going to 90 by disability benefit is going to go by real terms go up by 50% in real terms between now and 2030. as i say, from £31 billion a year to £48 billion a year, 1 in 9 of the

population by then, according to the department, will be claiming sickness or disability benefit and those are astonishing statistics. >> liam, do you think there's also some some political sabre rattling going on here because this would allow the conservatives to suddenly talk tough on clamping down on benefits. these i watering numbers £48 billion every single year. numbers £48 billion every single year . um, numbers £48 billion every single year. um, this can't go on. and the tories, traditionally they're the ones who clamp down on this. and the labour party are forced to defend it. hey, there's an election coming. the labour party is going to bankrupt well certainly that bankrupt us. well certainly that the fact that the are the fact that the numbers are out there, whether they were leaked civil or leaked by civil servants or ministers shadow ministers, ministers or shadow ministers, who sometimes are able in our system to access these internal forecasts, particular at the moment when labour is preparing for government, the civil service were in a phase where they have to be open with labour because labour could easily be the next government. because labour could easily be the that's overnment. because labour could easily be the that's right.nent. because labour could easily be the that's right. and. because labour could easily be the that's right. and proper. >> that's right. and proper. that's, a convention of that's, that's a convention of how run our country and our

how we run our country and our government more specifically . government more specifically. but whoever's leaking it for whatever reason, it certainly ups the ante here. are you and l, ups the ante here. are you and i, on gb news, talking about what quite a nerdy subject, what is quite a nerdy subject, no doubt the newspapers will be picking on this suddenly this picking up on this suddenly this is a major bone of contention £48 billion is real money for us to be spending £48 billion a year on sickness and disability benefit, a 50% increase in just 5 or 6 years is a major concern. so i do think it's right and proper that we discuss these issues, because this is a huge amounts of public money, and in the end, you know, governments don't money. the only money don't have money. the only money they is money that they have is money that businesses and workers pay in taxation. so i do think this is going to up the ante. you're right though, it could go either way politically . we'll in way politically. we'll see in the to the election the the run up to the election the extent to which sickness and disability benefit. there's broader home broader working from home debate. much debate. how much of a contentious political issue it will become. we know that the labour party , they haven't got

labour party, they haven't got a manifesto yet, but we know they want to give workers more rights to work from home, making it harder businesses push harder for businesses to push back to require their employees to come in. many business owners , on the other hand, will be saying, if i pay you, it's my right to ask you. yeah. would you mind coming into work for the money that i give you? you know, these are issues that, you know, these are issues that, you know, just a generation ago, just five years ago, would have been seen completely pie in the sky. whether not you actually sky. whether or not you actually have turn up work . sky. whether or not you actually have turn up work. martin, have to turn up to work. martin, it's mainstream politics. it's now mainstream politics. okay, halligan. okay, liam halligan. >> very much for that >> thank you very much for that update . and let's bring you some update. and let's bring you some sad breaking news now. and that's the football legend, franz beckenbauer has sadly died at the age of 78. beckenbauer was the west germany captain when they won the world cup in 1974, and he was a west germany coach when they won the 1990 world cup as well. of course , world cup as well. of course, they beat england on penalties on the way to winning that tournament. the kaiser , whereas

tournament. the kaiser, whereas lots more still to come now, between now and 5:00 we'll have the latest on the floods that have hit large parts of the country. but first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . the headlines middlehurst. the headlines this houn middlehurst. the headlines this hour, the prime minister says he'd strongly support a decision to revoke the former post office boss's cbe . boss's cbe. >> paula vennells, routinely denied there were problems with the horizon. it system, which made it look like money was missing from branches. hundreds of post office staff were therefore convicted, jailed, bankrupt . some even took their bankrupt. some even took their own lives after they were wrongly accused of theft . the wrongly accused of theft. the justice secretary and post office minister are now looking at how to help those caught up in the scandal. former minister chris skidmore has formally resigned as an mp in protest over plans to prioritise and politicise new oil and gas licences. that comes as mps are

preparing to debate the offshore petroleum bill this evening . if petroleum bill this evening. if it passes the legislation will mandate that licences for oil and gas projects in the north sea are awarded annually , and sea are awarded annually, and fresh ice warnings have been issued for parts of britain as temperatures plummet. sleet and snow showers have hit much of the south of the uk. the met office issuing a yellow alert for southern england and wales, effective until tomorrow morning. an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england, according to the government's warning system, with cold weather expected to impact health services, much of kentis impact health services, much of kent is already covered and sir keir starmer is visiting flood hit areas of the east midlands after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings . the wheel over flood warnings. more than 160 remain in place across the country and over 1800 properties have been damaged . properties have been damaged. the actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban of machetes and so—called zombie knives , as and so—called zombie knives, as the hollywood actor spoke to the

families of victims as he launched his don't stop your future campaign. folded clothes , future campaign. folded clothes, each representing someone who died because of knife crime, are being displayed in parliament's square today in central london. last summer , the home office last summer, the home office said tougher measures on weapons would be introduced, but legislation hasn't yet passed . legislation hasn't yet passed. those are the headlines. more detail on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you polly. now cold weather alert has been issued by the uk health security agency while the met office has issued yet another yellow weather warning , with snow showers set warning, with snow showers set to hit parts of the country. some areas of the south—east have already seen snow today, while some parts of the country are under water following storm hank last week . well, joining me hank last week. well, joining me now from loughborough is gb news

east midlands reporter, will hollis. will what's the latest out there from loughborough ? out there from loughborough? >> yes. well it's the last thing you would want if you've been flooded because of storm hank now. terrible bad weather. we've heard from the uk health security agency that there's an amber health alert for cold weather. that means people that are particularly vulnerable really do need to take care. but if you've already been affected, like the 300 or so homes so homes here in leicestershire , homes here in leicestershire, that's where you're going to find a little bit more trouble. just to recap, you on what we were talking about earlier here, the was completely the canal was completely flooded. this particular narrow boat ended up on its side here along the side of the canal here in loughborough. but there's now a bit of a community response from the boating, which is the pub here, which we can just go inside now and people have been coming here because they've lost everything, they've lost their beds, they've lost their, uh, cooker equipment, they've lost

all their electrical items. and now the local people who are from the local pub have been gathering things from the local community, including stacey. stacey was actually you that came up with idea to help came up with the idea to help local people. um, what's this flood being like for people in loughborough? >> it's been absolutely devastating people. devastating for most people. they've lost they've literally lost everything like they've most people, all they've got, especially from the flats, is things that were high up, like their kettles, their toasters, that sort of thing. everything else, like their sofa, clothes , else, like their sofa, clothes, shoes, everything is gone. >> we're talking about the cold weather now because after the water's gone, the cold weather's come in. what's that going to mean for people have been mean for people that have been flooded potentially flooded and have potentially lost their items? the lost most of their items? the cold coming now? well cold weather coming in now? well as see, obviously we've as you see, obviously we've collected lot of stuff collected a lot of stuff over here. >> that's like bed ing, uh, >> that's all like bed ing, uh, blankets , uh, pillows, that sort blankets, uh, pillows, that sort of stuff . so there's plenty of of stuff. so there's plenty of stuff. so obviously like for the community. so if need community. so if they need anything, it's all here. so just to keep them warm, if they need it, it's been a busy day.

>> you've the leader of the >> you've had the leader of the labour keir starmer, labour party, keir starmer, visiting and actually visiting today, and you actually spoke was it that spoke to him. what was it that he wanted to talk to you guys about? >> well, he said to me, i hear that you helped with obviously gathering things the gathering things from the community and obviously i was like, yes. um, and he says he's really happy to see how the community together to community has come together to help but that's what help each other. but that's what it's about, to each it's all about, to help each other when everybody needs it. >> to see keir >> were you happy to see keir starmer here today, and were you happy the kind of things happy with the kind of things that he talked about? of the that he talked about? one of the things been saying to the things he's been saying to the media that should have media is that we should have flood prevention in flood prevention strategies in place earlier to place much earlier to help communities loughborough. place much earlier to help conyeah,ties loughborough. place much earlier to help conyeah, yes, loughborough. place much earlier to help conyeah, yes, agree,|hborough. place much earlier to help conyeah, yes, agree, um,'ough. >> yeah, yes, i agree, um, obviously, especially where it was flooded like belt road was flooded like belt and road and drains and everything, those drains were horrible and they didn't get cleared out until it was flooded. and obviously that was too late. so hopefully it doesn't happen again. you've never seen those drains be cleaned before by whether it's a local council or local water service.

>> i've never seen them being cleaned myself . cleaned myself. >> no. so um, what happens now? >> no. so um, what happens now? >> because these, these things eventually they start to move away from from the tv just as, as news goes on. what happens now for you and the people that have been affected in loughborough and other places across the midlands and the across the east midlands and the country, well , as long across the east midlands and the country, well, as long as it goes on, we'll always be here to support everybody around in the community. >> they need somewhere to >> so if they need somewhere to come, we're here. if they need anything, we can point them in the direction. so we're the same direction. so we're just everybody just here to help everybody serving just pints, but serving not just pints, but serving not just pints, but serving community well. >> stacey, thanks so much for talking to us on gb news it is devastating when this kind of a thing happens, but when you've got good community you, got a good community around you, you through these you can get through these difficult martin difficult times. martin >> thank you. will hollis live from loughborough and the best of british to the owners there of british to the owners there of good luck with of the boat inn. good luck with the up. now many residents the tidy up. now many residents in farnborough are furious after an apartment block was taken over by the home office and a

luxury apartment block to house up to 300 asylum seekers . we'll up to 300 asylum seekers. we'll speak to a local resident right after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news earlier with eamonn and isabel, 321 launch, i wouldn't mind a banana nigel. >> i like banana and toast. >> i like banana and toast. >> yeah, that'd be nice. >> yeah, that'd be nice. >> yeah, that'd be nice. >> yeah, you like banana on toast? >> i love sandwiches, touch of cinnamon as well. >> now you have to spoil it. you

have to spoil it. marriages more of are breaking down and of them are breaking down and they break down today. this day , they break down today. this day, this first working day of january. then other times of the year number of people, year, a large number of people, irrespective of the cost of living crisis, which is hugely florid moment, who will florid at the moment, who will just emotionally this just simply say emotionally this is too much of a toll for me to take every morning. it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us can join. us >> welcome back. it's 443. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now at 5:00 and have the latest on the post office scandal. as lib dem leader ed davey comes under mounting pressure for his role in the saga. but let's get more on a story i covered on friday as a first, and many residents in farnborough are utterly furious. after an apartment block was taken over by the home office to house up to 300 asylum

seekers . the new block of flats , seekers. the new block of flats, over 100 flats was initially marketed as homes for rental at £1,400 per month, but now it's been withdrawn from the market. well joining me now is local resident jack stocking. jazz welcome to gb news. thanks for joining us. it's always a pleasure. jazz. the thing that struck me when i spoke to the leader of the council in rushmoor, gareth lyon, on friday, was the total lack of consultation . so can i get some consultation. so can i get some clarity from you, jazz, about how local residents first found out about this ? yes, my first out about this? yes, my first found out about it. >> i think it was thursday night nigel farage ran a piece on it and uh, my other half called me into the room and said, have you seen this? >> and so i rewound it back and shocked, actually. and then i got in touch straight away with a few friends and nobody knew anything it at all. i anything about it at all. so i think it was sort of shocked at

first. and now it's turned to anger with a lot of people. so and the thing is, as you said, you know, you find out from the media that in itself is a complete pig's ear. >> it's a complete breakdown in communications. yet the communications. but yet the council themselves , jazz, were council themselves, jazz, were claiming that they didn't know much about it either. they were told this was a fait accompli by the home office . and yet, how the home office. and yet, how doesit the home office. and yet, how does it make you feel? and people you know, in the farnborough area, knowing that people you know, okay, we can say they have to have somewhere to live, but they're being given by brand new luxury flats with all mod cons, £4,500 a month. and as i heard on friday, a lot of people locally can't even afford to get on the property ladder. ladden >> well, i think it's, um , >> well, i think it's, um, people need a minimum of, say , people need a minimum of, say, £3,000 a month coming in. just to be able to afford to live in these areas. we're living in one of the wealthiest parts of the country. but just because it's

wealthy doesn't mean everybody's got i've spoken to got money. and i've spoken to people that have been have been told it's ten years just to get a council this area. a council house in this area. you know , and how much those you know, and how much those people they're they're people feel they're they're living houses , living in overcrowded houses, often children, with their often with children, with their parents. and they would love one of these apartments. i'm shocked myself. i mean, i'm fine on my accommodation, but even my children struggle. my eldest son's had to move away to northern ireland. he just cannot afford to live in this area. it's, um, i think it's a scandal too far for local residents . and too far for local residents. and what about the notion , um, that what about the notion, um, that there this is brand new. >> people were just kind of piggyback it straight in and the location itself is something of some concern because as i understand it, jez, it's directly opposite, um, a farnborough technical college. some 8000 teenage students, a lot of the parents whose children attend that college must be quite concerned about the prospect of over 300 total

strangers being opposite where their children go to school . their children go to school. >> i think the problem is a lot of the time, as locals all over britain, we get lied to by councils, by the government , by councils, by the government, by the home office. they always come along with the same old line that it's just going to be, um, women and children in these places and then when you turn up and have a look at even the local hotels, we've got one down the road, i would say probably 80% of people in there are single men. and there has been a crime wave in the area. even though the council will tell you there isn't. there's of there isn't. there's a lot of cover on at. and i think cover up on this at. and i think if i had my children at that college, i would be very concerned. think, um , 300 concerned. and i think, um, 300 people moving in, i would say probably at least 200 of those will be just single men . and will be just single men. and i've a feeling that we could i've got a feeling that we could have a problem with the local college and the young girls leaving there every day. so local probably be local parents probably will be concerned. mean, we don't concerned. i mean, we don't know, but concern can lead to anger.

angen >> yeah. and jazz . i put it to >> yeah. and jazz. i put it to gareth lyon , the leader of gareth lyon, the leader of rushmoor council , gareth lyon, the leader of rushmoor council, on gareth lyon, the leader of rushmoor council , on friday that rushmoor council, on friday that maybe he's just a nimby. rushmoor council, on friday that maybe he's just a nimby . this is maybe he's just a nimby. this is the case of not in my backyard. and whether we like it or not, situation is people come to our country , um, and they have to country, um, and they have to have somewhere to live. what would you say to people who said that also acting like a that you're also acting like a nimby? well as far as i'm concerned, if anyone comes to england, they haven't got the england, if they haven't got the money come here, just go or money to come here, just go or live in a tent. >> many young brits live in tents, in fields and things. i met a chap on on sunday. it broke my heart in sleeping in a doorway in birmingham. 18 years service in the raf . nowhere to service in the raf. nowhere to live. he would love to be put in one of those apartments. i just think it's terrible. why when we've got thousands, probably millions on council waiting lists and people staying at home with parents s and that these flats are just going to be given over to people that have just arrived in the country, probably

in lorries or on a boat or i don't know how they get here, but they shouldn't be given anywhere. as i'm anywhere. as far as i'm concerned. there's plenty of villages. just put a tent in a big field and let them live there and that, that's it. there and that, and that's it. i mean, i it's we've got to look after our own people first. once we our own country in order, we get our own country in order, then maybe help people from abroad . and jazz. abroad. and jazz. >> what about the notion often that people are saying that this is it's a situation that's foisted upon your community, but you have to pull your weight. you have to, um, do your bit to shoulder the load. and that's just unfortunately, the world that we live in. >> well , i that we live in. >> well, i don't that we live in. >> well , i don't know how that we live in. >> well, i don't know how big our shoulders are. many many people, a lot of my friends who have got good jobs are seriously struggling with the cost of living crisis. so how much more do they have to shoulder? how much do they need? much more burden do they need? you know, my is the you know, i my belief is the local every single local council. every single member that resign. member of that should resign. let's people in that let's get some people in that will for local people . you will fight for local people. you know cannot keep forking out

know we cannot keep forking out money on heating bills, on gas, gas and electric, on shopping and everything. even even your tv packages is doubled in price over the last couple of years. absolutely everything people are on the breadline , on and jazz. on the breadline, on and jazz. >> what would you say to the politicians locally? because as i understand it, there's been scant opportunity to talk to them . this presented to you as a them. this presented to you as a fait accompli . if the fait accompli. if the politicians both locally and nationally and perhaps even the prime minister, were listening to now , jazz, what would to you now, jazz, what would your message them ? your message be to them? >> we've had enough. >> joe, we've had enough. i think the people of britain have had enough. leo docherty, the local mp. he's like the scarlet pimpernel . we seek him here, we pimpernel. we seek him here, we seek him there. he's never to be seen, never gives a word to anyone. everyone in power at the moment, the majority of. i know there are some good people . the there are some good people. the prime in my eyes. just prime minister in my eyes. just a total waste space. they a total waste of space. they don't think of the local people. they anybody . i they don't think of anybody. i mean, lots of local people. we've we've we've working we've we've we've been working handin we've we've we've been working

hand in hand with, um, some locals in chichester that have got the same problems . got exactly the same problems. they're hopefully to they're hopefully going to support cause . we've been support our cause. we've been supporting i think supporting theirs. i think groups and areas will start getting together. and before the government there's government realised there's going problems on going to be big problems on their going to their hands, we're going to organise protest this organise a protest for this weekend we want numbers weekend coming. we want numbers there, we want big numbers. hopefully turn up hopefully people will turn up and their opinions. we and voice their opinions. we need government know that need the government to know that we're happy. councillors we're not happy. councillors they just need to go get people in charge that will fight for local people. >> jess, stocking , thank >> okay, jess, stocking, thank you very much for giving us that impassioned view. and we have a home office spokesperson who said have always been said this. we have always been upfront unprecedented upfront about the unprecedented pressure put our asylum pressure being put on our asylum system , brought by system, brought about by a significant increase in dangerous and illegal journeys into the country over recent years . we continue to work years. we continue to work across government and with local authorities to identify a range of accommodation options to reduce the unacceptable use of hotels, which costs £8 million a day. the government remains

committed to engaging with local authorities and key stakeholders as part of this process. authorities and key stakeholders as part of this process . and now as part of this process. and now some more breaking news for you and a victim of jeffrey epstein claims . sex tapes were taken of claims. sex tapes were taken of various high profile figures, including prince andrew, the duke of york and i'm joined now by gb news royal correspondent cameron walker with the latest cameron. yet more astonishing revelations . revelations. >> yeah, martin, this is just coming through to us. if you remember , a us court is released remember, a us court is released ing several files related to a 2015 defamation case between glenn maxwell, who's serving a 20 year prison sentence for child sex trafficking , and child sex trafficking, and virginia giuffre and virginia giuffre is the woman who accuses prince andrew of having sex with her when she was 17 years old. back in 2001. now that is an allegation , given that prince allegation, given that prince andrew has always denied. now, in one of the latest court

documents, which has been released in the last couple of hours, as we understand it, a victim for the disgraced financier jeffrey epstein victim for the disgraced financierjeffrey epstein dubbed financier jeffrey epstein dubbed prince andrew's friend , claimed prince andrew's friend, claimed that sex tapes were taken of the duke of york , prince andrew, as duke of york, prince andrew, as well as bill clinton and billionaire businessman um sir richard branson as well. that is what the court's documents, uh, confirm . what the court confirm. what the court documents disclosed. sorry. um, the lady's name. who's made these allegations is sarah ransome , and she gave a victim ransome, and she gave a victim impact statement as part of the sentencing of british socialite , sentencing of british socialite, uh, ghislaine maxwell for sex trafficking . now, the extracts trafficking. now, the extracts have been flagged for documents that we've got today by the firm representing , uh, jeffrey representing, uh, jeffrey epstein's lawyer , um, to epstein's lawyer, um, to demonstrate that her claims, uh, and i quote , manifestly lack and i quote, manifestly lack credibility . so clearly, these credibility. so clearly, these documents , we must i must stress

documents, we must i must stress caution here because these documents were used , uh, to try documents were used, uh, to try and make it appear that sarah ransome's claims were false. now, uh, prince andrew, as i said, has always denied the allegations. bill clinton is mentioned many times throughout the court documents as well. there is absolutely no suggestion that there was any wrongdoing on bill clinton's part , and there's absolutely no part, and there's absolutely no suggestion that sir richard branson had any wrongdoing as well . well. >> okay. thank you. cameron waters, to repeat, a victim of jeffrey epstein claims sex tapes were taken of various high profile figures, including the prince andrew, the duke of york, an astonishing story. of course, we'll have more on that throughout the rest of the show . throughout the rest of the show. right after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news, but first, here's your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin, this

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gb news. >> way . >> way. >> way. >> good afternoon. it's 5:00. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. our top story today. lib dem leader ed davey is facing calls to quit for his role in the post office scandal, and there's news of a fresh snub for prince harry as he's not been included in sandhurst's guide to its 200 most notable graduates . even most notable graduates. even james blunt made the cut, and that's got to hurt. now . so what that's got to hurt. now. so what do you make of the ongoing post

office scandal? ed davey. here's a guy who's demanded 31 people resign over the years, yet surely this happened on his watch. is it time for ed davey to get the chop? let me know what you think i want to hear from you. email me gbviews@gbnews.com. and we've got lots on the way. but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom today is that the prime minister says he would strongly support a decision to revoke the former post office bosses . cbe paula post office bosses. cbe paula vennells routinely denied there were problems with the horizon it system , which made it look it system, which made it look like money was missing from post office branches . hundreds of office branches. hundreds of staff were convicted as a result. some were jailed, bankrupt and some even took their own lives after they were wrongly accused of theft. well, the government has insisted today it is working to ensure

compensation is paid to all those affected. the leader of the liberal democrats, ed davey , the liberal democrats, ed davey, who was postal affairs minister at the time , denies any at the time, denies any wrongdoing . wrongdoing. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now . the post office all know now. the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another minister's , and to me. another minister's, and when i met adam bates and listened to his concerns , i put listened to his concerns, i put those concerns to officials in my department, to the post office, to national federations office, to national federations of postmasters. and it's clear they all were lying to me . they all were lying to me. >> german football legend franz beckenbauer has died at the age of 78. he captained germany to world cup victory in 1974, then won the tournament again as manager in 1990. he was nicknamed the emperor and helped guide bayern munich to three successive european cups . his successive european cups. his family say he died peacefully in his sleep, surrounded by his

family . now, his sleep, surrounded by his family. now, in his sleep, surrounded by his family . now, in other news family. now, in other news today, chris skidmore has formally resigned as an mp and that's triggered another by—election. the government's former net zero tsar quit in protest over what he says are plans to prioritise and politicise new oil and gas licences. that's as mps prepare to debate the offshore petroleum bill. throughout this evening. if it passes the legislature will mandate that licences for oil and gas projects in the nonh oil and gas projects in the north sea are awarded annually. meanwhile another warship has been deployed to the gulf region by the royal navy amid growing tensions and attacks on international shipping in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps has confirmed that hms richmond will join two other royal navy vessels on policing dufiesin royal navy vessels on policing duties in the region . multiple duties in the region. multiple attacks have been launched at commercial shipping there, with houthi rebels claiming attacks are aimed at vessels linked to israel . here

are aimed at vessels linked to israel. here for are aimed at vessels linked to israel . here for fresh ice, israel. here for fresh ice, warnings have been issued for parts of britain as temperatures plummet and snow and sleet showers hit the country . the met showers hit the country. the met office has in fact issued yellow alerts for southern england and south wales, effective until the early hours of tomorrow morning, and an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england , in line with the of england, in line with the government's new warning system . government's new warning system. with the cold snap set to continue throughout the week . continue throughout the week. meanwhile, sir keir starmer has been visiting flood hit east midlands areas today, promising that a labour government would do more to protect people's homes. that's after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings . asleep at the wheel over flood warnings. more than 160 remain in place across the country today, and over 1800 properties have been damaged . have been damaged. >> this isn't the first time i've been out to talk to residents in this situation. got to get ahead of this. and that means earlier in the year, in the autumn, having a task force that brings together local

authorities , ses, emergency authorities, ses, the emergency response, people ensure response, local people to ensure that the prevention work is done. some of the drains that are now being cleaned could have been cleaned beforehand . the been cleaned beforehand. the response quick enough so response wasn't quick enough so i just don't think it's good enough government to enough for the government to come event again and come after the event again and express empathy. get ahead of this with a task force. that's what i would do. >> the actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban of machetes and so—called zombie knives. the hollywood star spoke to families of victims as he launched his don't stop your future campaign . folded clothes, future campaign. folded clothes, each representing someone who's died through knife crime , is died through knife crime, is being displayed in parliament square in central london today. last summer, the home office said tougher measures on weapons would be introduced but legislate hasn't yet been passed . idris elba says although deterrents like stop and search powers are working to some degree, much more needs to be done. >> it makes me feel sad as a society that we aren't putting

as much focus as we should be on, on, on stopping this. okay. and i just, i think today's campaign launch is about just reimagining re energise in the government to think about this re—energising our society to think about this as a group and say all right, how can we stop this? >> a private lunar lander launched from the united states this morning, but it has suffered a technical problem. call the mission's future into question . the issue prevented it question. the issue prevented it from pointing its solar panel stably at the sun, and without the ability to charge its batteries and maintain a power supply, the mission can't proceed. experts are trying to resolve the issue. the peregrine mission one is aiming to become the first us spacecraft to make a soft landing on the moon in half a century. it was expected to land on february the 23rd. that's the news on gp news across the uk on tv, digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel .

this is britain's news channel. and thank you polly. >> now we start with the post office scandal and liberal democrats leader sir ed davey is coming under mounting pressure for his role in the saga. davey was postal affairs minister, of course, during the coalition government and more than 700 post office branch managers were given criminal convictions after faulty accounting software made it appear as though money was missing from their shops, and in fact they were accused of stealing it. well, i'm joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley olivia, a saga that's been rolling on for years and years and years. and yet it's taken an itv drama for this to become front page news again. but but many, many people were convicted, went to jail. some sadly have taken their lives. will they finally get justice? >> it seems as though now, finally, with public outrage at

this enormous pitch , they might this enormous pitch, they might finally see justice. as you say, this is a hugely wide reaching scandal. it has tentacles everywhere and every political party has actually been implicated by it. it began in 1999 under tony blair, continued under gordon brown, continued under gordon brown, continued under the coalition government, where cameron was the prime minister. but lib dem ministers were in charge of post office affairs, including actually ed davey, who was post office affairs minister from 2010 to 2012. he's under huge pressure at the moment. he was asked five times for a meeting by alan bates, and he said that a meeting would serve no useful purpose . he now says that he purpose. he now says that he did, uh , relay alan bates did, uh, relay alan bates concerns to the post office and the post office lied to him. that's his justification. it'll be really interesting to see if that holds . meanwhile, of that holds. meanwhile, of course, we've got the question of when and how those wrongly convicted postmasters are going to see those convictions

overturned and get their compensation . we're expecting to compensation. we're expecting to hear from alex chalk, the justice secretary, very soon. he's been talking to ministers over various options that he could take to get that compensation system going again and to get those convictions overturned. one option he is considering, which david davis has called for, is to exonerate those just over 600 postmasters en masse , as we've talked about en masse, as we've talked about 700, around 700 have been convicted, 93 have already seen their convictions overturned. the rest are still waiting. could alex chalk just, uh, make it possible for the judiciary to overturn all of those convictions at once ? another convictions at once? another option, which alex chalk is considering is stripping the post office of its role in prosecutions . the post office, prosecutions. the post office, some might say archaic , only has some might say archaic, only has the ability to privately prosecute people and that is how those 700 postmasters were convicted. could alex chalk strip away that power from the post office and hand it back to

the crown prosecution service? thatis the crown prosecution service? that is an option . seriously, that is an option. seriously, being being considered by government, but would obviously have knock on effects. crown prosecution service is short on resources. there other resources. there are other cases. so it's unclear cases. uh, so it's unclear whether that's the option that they'll take. what is for certain. is that something is going to be done now , this this going to be done now, this this has reached a fever pitch . a has reached a fever pitch. a million people have signed a petition calling for paula vennells to lose her cbe . and as vennells to lose her cbe. and as you say, after 23 years, it has taken this itv drama that has taken this itv drama that has taken the media getting this right into the public eye for the government to sort of realise the urgency of this situation. >> ian and another thing today rishi sunak, of course, said he would strongly support that move for the honours forfeiture committee to consider revoking that cbe. d0 committee to consider revoking that cbe. do you think that will happen, or do you think there'll be a full inquiry and this might get brushed off once again, it'll really interesting to it'll be really interesting to see happens that. see what happens with that. >> the honours forfeiture committee decision committee get the final decision on is not up to rishi

on this. it is not up to rishi sunak, though. now he has endorsed taking that step , endorsed them. taking that step, they might feel political pressure to do it. a million signatures, that is a lot. that is a decent proportion of the country, uh, asking for paula vennells to get her cbe removed. there is, of course, the option. but for paula vennells to but for paula vennells simply to hand cbe back, something hand her cbe back, something that postmasters have been that the postmasters have been calling for a long time now. my instinct is that eventually , instinct is that eventually, paula vennells, one way or another, will not have her cbe, but it'll be interesting to see how much wrangling we have to get before get to that point. >> okay, olivia utley superb as even >> okay, olivia utley superb as ever, and i'm joined now in the studio by tim loughton, who's a conservative mp for east worthing shoreham. worthing and shoreham. >> for joining worthing and shoreham. >> forjoining us, tim. >> thanks forjoining us, tim. now next question, of now the next question, of course, compensation, course, is that of compensation, not not the small matter, not the not the small matter, £150 million is the bill. thus far that will surely, surely grow . lee anderson, your your grow. lee anderson, your your deputy chairman, was in the studio earlier and i said, well, who's going to pay for that? he said, well, maybe the humble taxpayer. i said, that fair?

taxpayer. i said, is that fair? why taxpayer pick up why should the taxpayer pick up the bill? fujitsu or the company who sold this software now has been to be unfit for been proven to be unfit for purpose. should they be footing the bill? >> i think probably, yes. i mean, this whole story stinks. incredible the of abuse incredible the scale of abuse that has gone on in those 700 poor postmasters and postmasters whose lives have been completely turned upside down. and for tragically took their own, their own lives . this tragically took their own, their own lives. this is going to involve a substantial amount of compensation . the post office is compensation. the post office is a national industry. it's government owned. that means the taxpayer has to foot the bill ultimately. but you're right, the reason this happened was dodgy software. and the people who provided the post office were fujitsu too. so i will be asking serious questions about having fujitsu's head on the block and what they're going to be stumping up to help put this serious tragedy. for some people, as it turned out to be. but a real scandal to put it right. >> and tim, the government has considerable leverage in this

issue because of course, fujitsu issue because of course, fujitsu is still the beneficiary of massive government contracts to this day. >> yeah, fujitsu major >> yeah, fujitsu is a major international player , a company international player, a company worth £56 billion, i think i think it is. it makes a lot of its money in the uk, and it makes a lot of its money from pubuc makes a lot of its money from public contracts as well. so if fujitsu wants to be considered for future public contracts, then step to the then it needs to step up to the plate put this situation plate and put this situation right and the inquiry that's going to happen to all this needs to know why, why it happened and what culpability can be attached to fujitsu as well. i think it will be good for fujitsu before the whole story is completely laid bare , story is completely laid bare, to actually come forward and say we are prepared to take some of the blame and we're prepared to put financial compensation put some financial compensation as otherwise it will as well. otherwise it will be the taxpayer picking an even the taxpayer picking up an even bigger the taxpayer picking up an even big and tim, is the taxpayer picking up an even bigand tim, is huge, >> and tim, this is huge, captured the public imagination. >> million signing >> a million people signing the signature petition. beg signature for this petition. beg your pardon ? paula vennells your pardon? for paula vennells to of her cbe. what to be stripped of her cbe. what about ed davey? you know he was at the helm at the time under

the coalition government , the coalition government, repeatedly turned down meetings with mr bates, alan bates . um, with mr bates, alan bates. um, here's a guy. he's a very trigger happy when it comes to demanding the resignations of others 31 times. in fact , should others 31 times. in fact, should mr davie be considering his position? >> well, it's sir ed davey, of course. >> somebody else who's had an honour since his time in, in office. and frankly , ed davey office. and frankly, ed davey has been hoist by his own petard. he's very quick to throw mud around. lots of his colleagues are very quick to call for resignations , but it call for resignations, but it was on his watch that alan bates , who comes out as a real hero of all of this, came to his department, said we need to get this sorted and was effectively swept aside. or his excuses about why he's lied to by the post office. i was a minister in the coalition government at the same time as ed davey in a different department, and when there things didn't there were things that didn't sound to me, didn't sound right to me, i didn't just sweep carpet. sweep it under the carpet. i actually went to people

actually went to see the people responsible. i went out of the department. i would have gone to speak to actual sub postmasters and bigger story. i was and get a bigger story. i was responsible for children's social to speak to social care. i went to speak to social care. i went to speak to social went to speak social workers. i went to speak to children in care to get the real story. there's no excuse for what happened there for what happened there. there are democrats are other liberal democrats actually business actually running the business department. vince cable was a secretary of state for trade, where the department is norman lamb and other liberal minister jo swinson. so actually they've got questions to answer got a lot of questions to answer as, as well. and for once, they're going to have to answer they're going to have to answer the questions rather than raise some questions and some rather dodgy questions and helmet they had the past . helmet as they had in the past. >> do you think this is going to happen, davey has happen, though? ed davey has been telly today, so it been on the telly today, so it was nothing to do with me. i mean, i was, i was told, dodgy information the post office. information by the post office. they to me. they were, they lied to me. he's, rather slippery . but he's, he's rather slippery. but again, you know , he accuses again, you know, he accuses people of being slippery all the time. but will he actually stand up and take this one. >> so ed davey was the minister responsible for the post office?

the buck stops with the minister. frankly, it's a publicly owned institution , ian. publicly owned institution, ian. he certainly should have been answering more questions rather than say to mr bates , don't call than say to mr bates, don't call us. we'll call you as effectively seems to have happened. all of this needs to come out because this is really struck the imagination the struck the imagination of the british public. real concern at the way this has happened. few people come out of this. well, actually, kevin hollinrake, the post minister now who post office minister now who raised this when he was a shadow minister before more conservative mps george younger raised it. some labour lords raised it. some labour lords raised it. some labour lords raised it as well. very few people otherwise come out of this. well there absolutely needs to be full transparency. the whole thing needs to be laid bare. heads must roll and compensation needs to be paid , compensation needs to be paid, and the whole bill should not end up with the with the taxpayer. and it needs to be done absolutely, urgently . 700 done absolutely, urgently. 700 people lives have been people whose lives have been ruined, only handful have had ruined, only a handful have had their compensation. the other 600 still have these convictions

over their head. and i hope the government and looks as they will. will ministers meeting now to see how we can expedite clearing their names. and it would seem like a rather easy political win for rishi sunak. >> he's already saying he will strongly support stripping this um cbe away. but with a million people backing this and it's just completely captured the pubuc just completely captured the public imagination, surely. rishi, um , palming this off, as rishi, um, palming this off, as it were , onto ed davey at the it were, onto ed davey at the same time as saying we demand justice for the poor. post office affected rishi. he should throw his weight behind this and try and get resolution and get justice. >> sure. and that's why today alex chalk , the justice alex chalk, the justice secretary and kevin hollinrake, the post office minister, have got together to see how we can urgently expedite this, to make sure that those still with criminal convictions, whether we can do it in one fell swoop. i'm not a lawyer, but how they can be absolutely exonerated. their names cleared and very publicly. an apology to them as well, and

compensation paid because many of them lost their livelihoods, their pensions, everything else to it. that money needs to go with it. that money needs to go with it. that money needs to be made available. absolutely urgently. then some serious urgently. and then some serious questions as to who was really responsible, turned the responsible, who turned the other who ask the other way, who didn't ask the right questions, and why the software failed, and what the company provided it are going to do to make amends. >> superb. >> superb. >> tim loughton, thank you very much for joining >> tim loughton, thank you very much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. tim, of course, is the conservative for east conservative mp for east worthing and shoreham. thank you very today. very much for joining us today. you lots more on that story you get lots more on that story on website. and thanks to on our website. and thanks to you, the fastest you, gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the it's breaking the country. it's got breaking news the brilliant news and all the brilliant analysis come expect analysis you've come to expect from gb news. so thank you very much for making that happen. and now the sandhurst military academy released the book academy has released the book naming of its most notable naming 200 of its most notable graduates. but prince harry is not one of them. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel. so on the one.

that i knew had dup zinko weeknights from six. >> welcome back. it's 522. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now. later in the hour, we'll pay tribute to the german footballing legend franz beckenbauer, the kaiser who has sadly died . but more on that sadly died. but more on that breaking news. we brought you earlier in the show and a victim

of jeffrey epstein claims sex tapes were taken of various high profile figures , including profile figures, including prince andrew, the duke of york . prince andrew, the duke of york. i'm joined now by our gb news royal correspondent cameron walker , who has the latest on walker, who has the latest on this explosive revelation. cameron. >> yeah . martin, if you remember >> yeah. martin, if you remember a series of documents have been coming out in the united states relating to a 2015 defamation case between virginia giuffre . case between virginia giuffre. that's prince andrew's accuser who accuses prince andrew of having sex with her when she was 17 years old in 2001. that's an allegation prince andrew has always denied against ghislaine maxwell, who is currently serving a 20 year prison sentence for child sex trafficking. and she was the former girlfriend or associate of convicted paedophile the late jeffrey epstein . so what we have jeffrey epstein. so what we have learned in the last few hours is a victim of jeffrey epstein claims that there are sex tapes taken of the duke of york, prince andrew, as well as

separate sex tapes with bill clinton, the former us president and the billionaire businessman sir richard branson. branson and that's what the courts documents have disclosed. the lady, who has alleges that these that these tapes exist is sarah ransome. now, she gave a victim impact statement ahead of the sentencing of ghislaine maxwell. but these , uh, allegations have but these, uh, allegations have come out as part of emails that she sent to a new york times journalist at the time. now the reason i'm urging caution here is because the reason that these emails found their way into deposition in court files in the united states is because the lawyer i'm sorry, the firm rep um, the firm who is representing jeffrey epstein's lawyer against the allegations against him. it's all very complicated. was using those emails and those claims to try and make it look like, um, the lady was either

was giving false allegations . so was giving false allegations. so it's all essentially very complex . and the duke of york complex. and the duke of york has always denied the allegations made against him. there is no suggestion in these court documents that either, uh, prince , either bill clinton or prince, either bill clinton or richard branson have done anything wrong here. no, none of these tapes are in the public domain. and of course, we haven't had any comments from the duke of york or any of the other two high profile figures. in this case, if we do get anything from them, we'll bring that straight to you. but that's what learned court what we've learned from court documents in last few hours. documents in the last few hours. okay cameron thank okay cameron walker, thank you for that update. >> repeat, a victim >> and just to repeat, a victim of jeffrey epstein claims sex tapes high tapes were taken of various high profile including profile figures, including prince andrew. the duke of york will have more on that story throughout the show. now to news of a fresh snub to prince harry. he's not been included in sandhurst's guide to its most notable graduates . the duke of notable graduates. the duke of sussex was not chosen as one of

the 200 prominent people who served at the prestigious military academy. prince william is on the list, and he also wrote the book's foreword . well, wrote the book's foreword. well, i'm joined now by the royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. richard this is a rather embarrassing snub here we go again. yet more bad news for prince harry. why do you think sandhurst had been motivated to do this? richard >> well, i mean , i think in >> well, i mean, i think in normal circumstances and these are not normal circles , as you are not normal circles, as you know, of course, he would have beenin know, of course, he would have been in the guide because after all, in 2013, he founded the invictus games for wounded and recovering servicemen and women. and it's been a remarkable success. and of course, as we know, he saw two terms of duty in afghanistan as a forward , um, in afghanistan as a forward, um, air controller and also as an apache pilot, normally being a

very prominent figure to that would have clearly meant that he would have clearly meant that he would have clearly meant that he would have joined the likes of winston churchill, tim peake, dave niven and james blunt. but unquestionably the extracts from his biography autobiography spur , where he actually lists the numbers of taliban that he'd personally killed during his second tour of duty in afghanistan and referred to them as, i quote chess pieces, uh, that was criticised by a large number of, uh, figures in the military , and that, i think, as military, and that, i think, as well as the fact that his rift with the royal family i think, is a reason for him being excluded . excluded. >> harry, now joins other quotes famous traitors and cads to have been erased from history, from sandhurst. um, former life. and that includes oswald mosley and

waffen ss officer benson freeman, who attended sandhurst and have been airbrushed out of history. that's not the most salubrious company to be keeping , is it ? , is it? >> well , , is it? >> well, i mean, one just has to say regarding prince harry, he was undoubtedly somebody who, after a very, very angry , ridden after a very, very angry, ridden childhood, we know the fact that, uh , walking behind his that, uh, walking behind his mother's coffin and also the subsequent trauma we know the fact that this has had a toll that he's written about on his mental health. i mean, there's absolutely no question that he saw the army as part and parcel of his life. and there's no doubt that he will. i think , be doubt that he will. i think, be somewhat upset that his excluded but behaviour for such as , for but behaviour for such as, for example, listing the numbers of individuals that you personally killed and also no public

criticism of his brother, for example, who's written the foreword to the book and is included in the book. i mean, this makes it pretty clear that why he is not in it personally , why he is not in it personally, and i don't think he'd be that surprised sized and, richard, do you think it's fair ? you think it's fair? >> um, colonel richard kemp, who's a regular on the show, said that he would have included him in sandhurst less, saying his service wasn't notable, but at least he was a big name . at least he was a big name. >> yes, absolutely . because >> yes, absolutely. because after all, if you have a name, who is, um, this is one of the things about being a senior member of the royal family. of course, you can do good and you can do good in a large scale. and it's also important to remember, i think that prince harry's three charitable ventures, most particularly the invictus games, but also sentebale in lesotho and also wellchild all of those which he's still attached to . he was he's still attached to. he was involved with before he was

married. i mean, there was a joke at the golden globes last night. jo koy, the host, uh, not one who's had particularly good reviews for the way he handled it, but he did make a joke, which caused some laughter by referring to the duke and duchess of sussex and asking what they had actually done, and the answer, he said, was nothing. some of us might regrettably agree , because most regrettably agree, because most of what harry did previously, i mean , there's no doubt that that mean, there's no doubt that that was , i think, quite. invictus is was, i think, quite. invictus is remarkable , but also him. if he remarkable, but also him. if he and meghan weren't trashing the royal family which has been lucrative, i'm afraid for them. what precisely has have they done? that is , i think, done? that is, i think, a question perhaps they should be addressing themselves . addressing themselves. >> okay. thank you very much, richard fitzwilliams. another embarrassing snub for prince harry. now there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. in a few minutes, i'll discuss the controversial

climate action group known as the tire extinguishers. who have you guessed it, slashed the tires. but get this of a tesla . tires. but get this of a tesla. but first, there's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. you're with gb news. i'm polly middlehurst and these are your latest news headlines . the prime latest news headlines. the prime minister says he would strongly support a decision to revoke the former post office bosses . cbe former post office bosses. cbe paula vennells routinely denied there were problems with the honzon there were problems with the horizon it system , which made it horizon it system, which made it look like money was missing from post office branches . as post office branches. as a result, hundreds of staff were convicted, jailed bannau corrupted. some even took their own lives after they were wrongly accused of theft. the government insists it is now working to ensure compensation is paid to all those affected , is paid to all those affected, whether news and fresh ice

warnings have been issued for parts of the uk as temperatures plummet and snow and sleet hits the country, the met office has issued yellow alerts for southern england and southern wales, effective until tomorrow morning, and an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england , issued for parts of england, according to the government's warning system . with cold warning system. with cold weather expected to impact health services and within the last hour we've heard the german football legend franz beckenbauer has died at the age of 78. he captained germany to world cup victory in 1974, then won the tournament again as manager in 1990. he was nicknamed the emperor and helped guide bayern munich to three successive european cups . his successive european cups. his family say he died peacefully in his sleep, surrounded by his family . and recordings are family. and recordings are alleged to exist involving prince andrew, richard branson and bill clinton . among and bill clinton. among allegations contained in court

documents relating to the sex offender jeffrey epstein . the offender jeffrey epstein. the claims are part of a victim impact statement that was given ahead of sentencing of epstein's former associate, ghislaine maxwell . prince andrew denies maxwell. prince andrew denies any wrongdoing and those are the latest news headlines. more detail on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . for a valuable gbnews.com. for a valuable legacy your family can own . legacy your family can own. >> gold coins will always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report quick snapshot of today's markets for you and the pound. >> buying you $1.2765 and ,1.1629. the price of gold is. £1,591.83 an ounce, and the ftse 100 has closed for the day today

. at 7694 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thank you, thank you polly. now my favourite part of the show, because i'm joined now by michelle dewberry. of course, dewbs& co six till 7 pm. have we got jobs ? this year's the we got jobs? this year's the jobs has landed modern technology . technology. >> don't you just love it when it works? lots coming up on my show tonight, martin. of course, the post office minister. he's giving a statement , uh, to the post office minister. he's giving a statement, uh, to house of parliament, a quarter past six. so we'll have the latest on that. and reacting live off the back of it. of course, the conversation about whether or not paula vennells should be stripped her cbe, of course, stripped of her cbe, of course, rumbles on. also want to ask rumbles on. i also want to ask about whether or not councils should be forced remove should be forced to remove palestinian flags that people have up at tower hamlets, in have put up at tower hamlets, in particular, is one area a group of lawyers are saying that the council are essentially, perhaps

committing a criminal offence by letting those flags remain. so i want to explore that as well . want to explore that as well. >> fantastic. um show coming up that thing about, um, tower hamlets really got me going. i got chucked out of the underground the other night at, um, whitechapel , and that entire um, whitechapel, and that entire high street looked like the gaza strip. there are flags everywhere there, jubes. there were flags on every lamppost all over shop. it didn't look over the shop. it didn't look like britain. over the shop. it didn't look likebuttain. over the shop. it didn't look like but the flip side of that over the shop. it didn't look likebut the flip side of that is >> but the flip side of that is when ukraine, when the ukraine war kicked off, the ukraine flags everywhere and flags everywhere as well. and nobody seemed to have a problem with that. will ask, by the with that. i will ask, by the way, what on earth you were doing get chucked off the doing to get chucked off the tube? and i'll tell you the story that you've got coming up on imminently, that on your show imminently, that tyre extinguishers are. it's a good got few minutes good job. i've got a few minutes between that and my show starting because my blood pressure through pressure would be through the roof. do people think roof. who do those people think they are? >> don't you by the way, >> don't you agree? by the way, i didn't like the ukraine flags ehhen i didn't like the ukraine flags either. six. still either. dewbs& co six. still seven. going to be a corker seven. it's going to be a corker as ever. lovely to see you,

especially that massive as ever. lovely to see you, especiedaubneythat massive as ever. lovely to see you, especiedaubney behind ssive as ever. lovely to see you, especiedaubney behind your head martin daubney behind your head rather than controversial rather than a controversial climate we just climate action group as we just discussed, as the tyre discussed, known as the tyre extinguishers. we there extinguishers. see we did there they you guessed it, they have you guessed it, slashed tires of a car in slashed the tires of a car in clifton in bristol. their aim is to quote strike the fear into owners of gas guzzling suvs and defend themselves against climate change, air pollution and unsafe drivers. but catch this the group might find themselves a bit confused this time , as they vandalised an time, as they vandalised an electric tesla , with the owner electric tesla, with the owner calling the event comical . well, calling the event comical. well, joining me now is the former labour special adviser, paul richards. paul um , this even by richards. paul um, this even by the standards of just stop oil or extinction rebellion is utterly ridiculous. um, they may believe in their politics, but they vandalised one of the cars that that presumably they actually want us to own .

actually want us to own. >> well, do you know what, martin? if it was discovered that these people were being secretly played, played by the oil companies, i wouldn't be at all surprised because they are doing so much damage to their own cause to their own belief, uh, that we need to do more to tackle climate change. which, by the way, i share in most recent reasonable people do. but i just think they're absolute idiots. and you know, people will be reading this news just reading this news and just thinking, maybe , you know, thinking, well, maybe, you know, we side with these we shouldn't side with these people that go banging on about the maybe, you know, the climate and maybe, you know, the climate and maybe, you know, the companies have a point. >> and paul , another reason >> and paul, another reason these people might have been dropped is that dropped on their heads is that there was the tragedy, of course, august in course, last august in wimbledon, when two wimbledon, uh, when two schoolgirls were killed. sadly by a land rover and in response, the tire extinguishers drilled holes into the tires of 68 suvs in exeter in devon , hardly in exeter in devon, hardly getting public sympathy once again. but also we've seen this

from the other side , paul, we've from the other side, paul, we've seen the blade runners hacking down the ulez cameras in london. are we approaching a new era of people taking direct action? is vandalism the new currency ? well vandalism the new currency? well i disagree with that kind of direct action. >> and i'm a democrat. i'm somebody involved in party politics. i believe in the power of voting. and people like this say , well, you know, it's what say, well, you know, it's what the suffragettes did when they slashed uh, paintings in the slashed up, uh, paintings in the national gallery so but national gallery and so on. but the the the difference was that the suffragettes didn't have the vote, wanting to vote, and they were wanting to be of a democratic process. be part of a democratic process. we've we've got we've got the vote, we've got a free press . we've got the right free press. we've got the right to be through our members to be heard through our members of and that's the of parliament. and that's the way do politics in this way we do politics in this country. it's very dangerous way we do politics in this courto'. it's very dangerous way we do politics in this courto'. it's ve if dangerous way we do politics in this courto'. it's ve if yougerous way we do politics in this courto'. it's ve if you think! line to go down. if you think you're just if you don't like something, you can smash it up or the tires or throw oil or slash the tires or throw oil over might be. over it. whatever it might be. um, you know, really is um, it's, you know, it really is the slippery slope . um, and the slippery slope. um, and these people, like are these people, like i say, are idiots. i hope the police have the to arrest them and

the resources to arrest them and to throw the book at them, because, know, it has to be because, you know, it has to be stopped in its tracks. if you want to change something this want to change something in this country, a country, you can join a political party. you can for stand office, can your stand office, you can lobby your councillor and you councillor or your mp, and you can with a democratic can engage with a democratic process people have fought process that people have fought for died what you don't for and died for. what you don't do take out stanley do is take out your stanley knife and start slashing other people's . knife and start slashing other peo have . knife and start slashing other peo have noticed paul as >> have you noticed paul as well, always seem to well, that they always seem to strike salubrious areas strike in quite salubrious areas 7 strike in quite salubrious areas ? clifton, one of most, um, ? clifton, one of the most, um, affluent suburbs of bristol, which is the very liberal, affluent city, certainly in that port, um, or it's in posh supermarkets. it's always in waitrose or it's in park lane or it's in knightsbridge . why don't it's in knightsbridge. why don't they tried doing this outside of they tried doing this outside of the mill wall? why don't they try doing this outside a working class town slashed the tires of cars there. what do you think they did that? what would happen to them then? paul >> well, you know, i've been a lot of demos in my time and, uh, the people that the anarchists and the trotskyists are usually people the ranks of

people drawn from the ranks of the public school elite , um, the public school elite, um, they're often the sons and daughters of high court judges and so forth. and, you know, their politics is infantile and their politics is infantile and their is infantile , their behaviour is infantile, and they are people often rebelling against mummy and daddy. it's not a serious politics. and that's why i say, daddy. it's not a serious poli know.nd that's why i say, daddy. it's not a serious poli know , d that's why i say, daddy. it's not a serious poli know , people why i say, daddy. it's not a serious poli know , people need! say, daddy. it's not a serious poli know , people need to ay, daddy. it's not a serious poli know , people need to get you know, people need to get involved the hard yards involved in the hard yards of democratic politics, um, elections and knocking on doors and trying to win popular support for your position and win an argument rather than trying get some headlines for trying to get some headlines for these of really stupid these kind of really stupid direct that are, as i direct actions that are, as i said, at the top, absolutely counterproductive. they are playing into the hands of climate change deniers and oil drillers and all the people that are polluting our climate. >> paul richards, former labour special adviser i think many people out there will be saying, i totally and utterly agree with you. >> these talks wins. um, they don't know that they've even been born and they've vandalising electric cars to try and make us buy electric cars. you couldn't make it up. thanks for joining us on the show, paul

forjoining us on the show, paul . now, the majority of police forces in england and wales allow trans identifying biologically male officers. that's blokes to strip search women. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel

p.m. only on gb news. the people's channel, britain's news channel >> earlier with eamonn and isabel, 321 launch. i wouldn't mind a banana, nigel. i like banana and toast. yeah, that'd

be nice. yeah would you like banana on toast? >> i love sandwiches, touch of cinnamon as well. >> now you have to spoil it. you have to spoil it. marriages more of them are breaking down and they break down today, this day, this working day of this first working day of january. of the january. then other times of the yean january. then other times of the year, a large number of people, irrespective of the cost of living crisis, which is hugely florid the moment, who will florid at the moment, who will just simply say emotional . just simply say emotional. >> this is too much of a toll for me to take every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us. you can join. us. >> welcome back! it's 545. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news news now. the majority of police forces in england and wales allow trans identifying biologically male officers to strip search women . at least 34 strip search women. at least 34 out of 43 forces have either implemented the policy, or they intend to do so. and the figures were revealed by the women's

rights network. and i'm joined now by miranda yardley hughes, who's a human rights activist. miranda thank you very much for joining us on the show. so a lot of people would take umbrage to this. they would think , quite this. they would think, quite rightly, with some fairness , rightly, with some fairness, that it's a biological woman's choice of who should strip search them. what would you say to that ? to that? >> i think they i think it's an absolutely grotesque boundary violation that you can that the police of all people are allowing men who self—identify as women. i mean, seriously , if as women. i mean, seriously, if somebody self—identified as themselves, as a woman and they they put them put themselves in a position where they are laying hands on a woman in who is in a position of restraint paint, who has no power, what sort of man , has no power, what sort of man, what sort of man wants to put themselves in that position in it's well, it's absolutely shocking .

shocking. >> i think many, many people watching this show will concur . watching this show will concur. particularly insensitive situations. i mean, the it absolutely makes you shiver to think if a woman had been through some sort of sexual violation historically, only to be then told that she had to be manhandle literally by a man who makes these decisions, and why ? makes these decisions, and why? >> that's a really good question . i believe police procedure is down, isn't it? down to the college of policing and i think that, well, we have a we have a government at the moment where who members of the government have made very sympathetic noises to women who've been concerned about this. and it surprises me, really, that that this is being allowed to continue. there was a story that broke earlier on today or was it last night as well, that there were there are women who are being housed with with male prisoners , or should i say that prisoners, or should i say that there are male prisoners who

have convictions for sexual offences, who are being housed with women's and women's prisons 7 with women's and women's prisons ? i mean, again, we were assured that this would not be happening . and it's unconscionable. it's such a malicious act against women . women. >> and it just makes me sort of wonder where this came from. i mean, if we're looking at what about 28,000 trans people in, in all of the united kingdom , a all of the united kingdom, a tiny percentile and a lot of debate around whether the last census was actually confusing people in areas of britain who were less likely or less able to speak english were more likely to claim that they were trans. surely putting the point across. they misunderstood the question. so the actual data itself may be wrong, but at what point did people who lead police forces, people who lead police forces, people who lead the nhs, people who lead in schools, people who lead in the most sensitive areas of our lives on hospital wards decide to put such minority

interests first. and why ? interests first. and why? >> that's a really good question . what happened with prisons until about the end of 2015? was it was subject to risk assessment and as general practice , the default was that practice, the default was that men would go in a men's prison. there was a um there was a case at the end of 2015 whose name i can't quite remember was certainty. i don't want to say it in case i've got the wrong person and somebody gets sued here. um, but this individual was was a man who called himself a woman, even though he retained his, um, um, seven inch surprise, which he was wanting to talk about. and he was, uh, he was arrested for an assault in a bar in bristol. and he headbutted the, the, the manager of the bar and caused quite some damage to his dental work. and

of course, what happened was this guy was put a men's this guy was put in a men's prison because he's a bloke. and there absolutely huge there was this absolutely huge amount outrage. and of course amount of outrage. and of course , what is, is , is , what happens is, is, is confronted by a screaming , confronted by a screaming, baying mob that , uh, you know, baying mob that, uh, you know, that the, the, um, the whole diverse city equality and inclusion infrastructure gets going. and before you know it, we've got this utterly perverse situation where we have sexual criminals being like foxes being put into a hen house and given a given, a, um , you know, put into given, a, um, you know, put into prison with women. and it's shocking . shocking. >> okay. >> okay. >> we thank you very much. i'm afraid we have to leave it there. miranda yardley, thank you very much. purely because of a of time and some breaking a lack of time and some breaking news in the last hour , german news in the last hour, german footballing legend franz beckenbauer has sadly passed away at the age of 78. beckenbauer was the west germany captain and when they won the world cup in 1974, he was also

the west germany coach when they won the world cup in 1990. and of course, they beat england on penalties on the way to winning that tournament and joining us now is the sports journalist the legend of fleet street, harry harris, harry, always a pleasure to speak to you . the kaiser to speak to you. the kaiser sadly passed away a footballing phenomenon , one of the best phenomenon, one of the best players of all time and royalty in germany . in germany. >> indeed , i can't quibble with >> indeed, i can't quibble with every word you just said there. i think , um, you know, as a as a i think, um, you know, as a as a fan, i watched him play certainly in the 1966 world cup. uh, i was there at wembley for the final , uh, and obviously the final, uh, and obviously learned afterwards a very interesting story. of course , interesting story. of course, that, um, he was asked to mark bobby charlton, who he obviously described as at that time the best player in the world. and he was glad for the final whistle because he went into extra time and he was chasing bobby charlton around the pitch for 120 minutes. but of course, alf

ramsey had designated bobby charlton mark charlton to man mark beckenbauer. that's how good beckenbauer. that's how good beckenbauer was that england's best had to man mark him. best player had to man mark him. so, um , neither of them actually so, um, neither of them actually excelled in final , so, um, neither of them actually excelled in final, um, excelled in the final, um, because of that. but um, what a gifted player . because of that. but um, what a gifted player. and certainly you'd put him up there right at the top alongside bobby charlton. certainly pele and the likes of that, he was, um , likes of that, he was, um, different class. and of course, he invented his own position. he was a sweeper , but in front of was a sweeper, but in front of the back four, which now we have all these kind of like holding midfield players and that type of thing. but he, invented of thing. but he, he invented that then astonishing >> and then astonishing achievement not only as a player but to as the gaffer helped but to then as the gaffer helped germany to lift that world cup in 1990. okay that might be painful for england fans, but an astonishing achievement. i believe only three people have ever lifted the world cup as player and manager. >> that's correct. so you can see how difficult that scenario is. but of course, you know, he

was a formidable manager as well as a player and a great leader of the national team as a manager. but as a player, you know, he had such silky skills just, um, an incredible ability . just, um, an incredible ability. um, and in 1966, he was the best young player of the tournament. he scored four goals from that kind of deep midfield role. but he he had that ability to move forward through the, you know, through midfield into attack . he through midfield into attack. he actually started as a forward as actually started as a forward as a winger. uh, and then developed into this new midfield role that he invented for himself . he invented for himself. >> yeah. the kaiser um did it superbly and sadly died away. >> thank you. harry harris, for joining us on gb news. now, earlier in the program, we brought you some breaking news that a victim of jeffrey epstein claimed sex tapes were taken of various high profile figures, including prince andrew and richard branson, and this claim by sarah ransome was in a victim impact statement ahead of the

sentencing of british social rights ghislaine maxwell for sex trafficking on behalf of mr branson of virgin group spokesman has said in a new yorker report published in 2019, ransome admitted that she had invented the tapes and in a statement, she says we can confirm that sarah ransome's claims are baseless and unfounded . prince andrew has unfounded. prince andrew has always denied any wrong doing , always denied any wrong doing, of course. now, just to repeat those allegations are being denied by richard branson's spokesperson and he says they are baseless and untrue . so huge are baseless and untrue. so huge story breaking today. i've been martin daubney 3 to 6. coming up next is michelle dewberry on dewbs& co but before that here's your all important . your all important. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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a petition to strip the former post office boss, paula vennells of her cbe, should she also. what about ed davey? what about him? should he resign? he seems quite keen actually, to call for everyone else, seemingly to resign when they've done wrong and all these and what about all these convictions then still convictions then that are still hanging people? it time hanging over people? is it time now all essentially to now for them all essentially to be immediately quashed? also

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