i >> monday night. how are you.7 good >> monday night. how are you? good evening and welcome to patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan . me, mark dolan. >> oh, i wish i'd known then what we all know now . the post what we all know now. the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another minister's bombshell evidence emerges that suggests ed davey dismissed and ignored numerous pleas from the post office scandal victims. >> so should the lib dem leader stand down. but rishi sunak has his own problems in his own party, such as whose great idea was it to replace the disgraced tory mp peter bone with his

girlfriend ? you couldn't make it girlfriend? you couldn't make it up. elsewhere, benefits claimants are through the roof with depression and anxiety now are the leading reasons. so i'm asking tonight is the serious issue of mental illness being explored by some to game the welfare system? it's a tough topic, but one that we won't shy away from. fleets street icon kelvin mackenzie will give his unmissable opinion on the joey barton sexism row . plus, i go barton sexism row. plus, i go into battle with the leader of reform uk, richard tice , after reform uk, richard tice, after he took exception to these comments. reform uk project with admirable aims, goals and policies risks sweeping him to an historic landslide . well, an historic landslide. well, richard's been on twitter. he is not happy. will twice play nice. i'm not holding my breath, talking about fireworks on my panel tonight. delighted to have the formidable carole malone, benjamin butterworth and belinda

deluise . so it's absolutely deluise. so it's absolutely freezing out there, folks. we're turning up the temperature here in the studio for what's going to be a toasty couple of hours , to be a toasty couple of hours, get the kettle on and let's get to work . to work. your feedback is my priority . your feedback is my priority. email me now. have the tories used up all of their chances with the electorate market? gb news. com and i look back on a day that's seen junior doctors put day that's seen junior doctors put pay day that's seen junior doctors put pay over patients yet again. ed davey fighting for his job and yet more tory chaos a blockbuster two hours coming right after the news headlines and polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you. good evening to you. we start this bulletin with some breaking news. it's concerning the former wales and british and irish lions fullback jpr williams. he has died at the

age of 74. jpr. jpr williams. he has died at the age of 74. jpr . won 55 caps for age of 74. jpr. won 55 caps for wales. his former club bridgend , wales. his former club bridgend, making that announcement within the last hour, saying bridgend ravens are devastated to announce the passing of jpr williams, one of bridgend s most decorated players and an icon of world rugby. jpr served the club most recently as our president . most recently as our president. our thoughts are with jp's family and friends at this sad time . jpr family and friends at this sad time .jpr williams, whose died time. jpr williams, whose died today at the age of 74. now the main story on gb news tonight is that the post office minister has said tonight securing justice for the victims of the honzon justice for the victims of the horizon it scandal and making sure such a tragedy never happens again is his highest priority at the time. the former post office boss, paula vennells, denied there were problems with the horizon it system, which showed money was missing from post office branches at reckoning up time , branches at reckoning up time, implying theft as a result,

hundreds of postmasters and mistresses were convicted, jailed and bankrupted. some even took their own lives . well, now took their own lives. well, now there are calls for mrs. vennells to be stripped of her cbe and kevin hollinrake has said this evening it's perfectly reasonable for people to suggest it. idea also supported by it. an idea also supported by the prime minister, mr hollinrake said he'll update mps about the government's plans to help those affected by the end of this week . well, tonight mps of this week. well, tonight mps are debating the offshore petroleum bill as parliament returns for the first session of 2024. if you're watching on television, you can see these live pictures coming to us now from the house of commons. if the bill passes, this is its second reading. by the way, the legislation will mandate that licences for oil and gas projects in the sea are projects in the north sea are awarded annually . it's already awarded annually. it's already led to the resignation of the conservative mp chris skidmore , conservative mp chris skidmore, who says the law would show the uk is rowing ever further back from its climate commitments . a from its climate commitments. a lot more snow and sleet is on

the way this evening, with ice warnings issued for southern england and wales. the met office issuing a yellow alert effective until tomorrow morning. an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england, triggered local responses to assist older people or those with cardiovascular or respiratory conditions , and the cold snap conditions, and the cold snap set to continue throughout the week . sir set to continue throughout the week. sir keir starmer , week. sir keir starmer, meanwhile, visited flood hit areas in the east midlands today , promising that a labour government would do more to protect people's homes . that's protect people's homes. that's after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings, of which 160 remain in place after thousands of homes were flooded. rishi sunak says the government has invested £5.2 billion in flood defences through i.e. energy firms have been permitted to resume force fitting prepayment metres in households. edf octopus and

scottish power were temporarily banned from doing so following a scandal around the practice . now scandal around the practice. now firms will have to make at least ten attempts to contact a customer before an installation , customer before an installation, as well as conducting a welfare visit. plus, firms won't be allowed to put metres into the highest risk households and lastly, the actor idris elba is calling for an immediate ban of machetes and so—called zombie knives as he launches his don't stop your future campaign today , stop your future campaign today, the hollywood star was speaking with families of victims today and on display were a set of folded clothes , each folded clothes, each representing someone who died as a result of knife crime displayed in parliament square in central london last summer, the home office said tougher measures on weapons would be introduced , but legislation introduced, but legislation hasn't yet passed it on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel .

britain's news channel. >> what a day! the london mayor rolls over to the trade unions to see off a damaging strike. i agree with gb news super signing bofis agree with gb news super signing boris johnson, who says this is a foretaste of life under labour for the next five years i'll be tackling that in my 10:00 monologue. but meanwhile the junior doctors perform an empathy bypass yesterday, going on strike at the height of the flu season and causing yet more cancelled appointments, risking lives and adding to the almost 8 million people now waiting for treatment. meanwhile remember when we stayed at home to save the nhs? well, the junior doctors are now staying at home to further destroy it. the junior doctors do a great job, but it's a joke to say that they're underpaid. this industrial action in the nhs is enough to make you sick . so too enough to make you sick. so too is the post office scandal and pressure is growing on lib dem

leader ed davey over his role as minister for postal affairs in the 2010 coalition government, because concerned letters from devastated postmen posters were left ignored as davey swallowed what proved to be a pack of lies from post office senior management . but this from post office senior management. but this is one of the worst miscarriages of justice in the history of this country , and it's shocking that country, and it's shocking that fujitsu , the company behind this fujitsu, the company behind this faulty horizon software, continue to receive massive government contracts . this the government contracts. this the express report they've pocketed £200 million in the last year alone . there you go . fujitsu are alone. there you go. fujitsu are now deep in the jitsu and rightly so . the only positive rightly so. the only positive from this is that for the first time since he became leader of the lib dems, we're actually talking about ed davey. but sadly for him, the debate is how long he now stays in the job. i'll discuss that with the fearless former sun editor kelvin mackenzie, before the end of the hour. so ed davey is

trying to get into number 10. rishi sunak is desperately trying to stay there, but has poor old rishi got any more hair to pull out of his head as disgraced tory mp peter bone is replaced by wait for it , his replaced by wait for it, his girlfriend, who will now run for his seat in a by—election while sunak has got a bone to pick with whoever came up with that ridiculous idea, this is more embarrassment the pm doesn't need, and he refused to endorse the candidate for the new candidate for wellingborough . whilst out and wellingborough. whilst out and about today without, about campaigning today without, by the way, a jacket, did he not see the forecast out? he must have frozen to death . have frozen to death. >> candidate selection done >> candidate selection is done locally, so local members in a given area will their given area will choose their candidate. that's how works candidate. that's how it works in party. it's right that in our party. it's right that when say we believe in when we say we believe in empowering people locally, i really in that. that's really believe in that. that's how in our party. how we do it. in our party. >> and there's even more election bedlam on the way. after chris skidmore formally submitted his resignation earlier in protest over rishi sunak's oil and gas drilling

plans, he was backed by fellow tory mp and cop26 president alok sharma , who this morning vowed sharma, who this morning vowed to rebel against the government's climate legislation in party discipline, leaving a lot to be desired, especially after backbencher danny kruger was heard saying that if they're booted out of downing street, they're leaving the country sadden they're leaving the country sadder, less united and wait for it less conservative than when they found it. take my advice, don't bother sticking that on election campaign leaflets . so election campaign leaflets. so tonight we have to ask, is rishi rudderless and has he lost control of his party? let's get the views of my top panel tonight. daily express columnist carolyn maloney , journalist and carolyn maloney, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and former brexit party mep beunda and former brexit party mep belinda de luci . karen maloney. belinda de luci. karen maloney. yes, poor old rishi sunak. i mean, party discipline is a thing of the past, isn't it? uh it's interesting. >> we're doing a debate. i didn't know we were doing anyway. um have you not been briefed? no, not this. no. briefed? no, not on this. no. yeah, thing you is

yeah, but the thing about you is you supreme journalist. you are a supreme journalist. >> can throw anything >> well, you can throw anything at you. >> so was your question? >> so what was your question? >> so what was your question? >> has sunak lost >> oh, has rishi sunak lost control party? control of his own party? >> well, i think he lost control of quite a time ago. of quite a long time ago. i mean, you mentioned mean, you know, you mentioned there uh, refused there that, uh, he refused to endorse, helen harrison, endorse, um, helen harrison, who was partner was the, the girlfriend partner of peter bone. um and, i mean, i don't quite understand why a bloke who was elected by no one and chosen by no one can actually criticise someone who was chosen over seemingly by tory party members to represent that seat . that seat. >> it's a pathetic decision, though, isn't it? because voters want change. peter bone is disgraced because of these allegations, which he denies. >> pathetic decision because it wasn't decision that was made wasn't a decision that was made by peter bone. was the by peter bone. it was the decision made by tory members , decision made by tory members, which is how the system works in this country. they choose someone that they want to represent a certain constituency . now, this woman, helen harrison , has a as a record in harrison, has a as a record in the area. she's been a tory councillor for many years. she has she's in politics already . has she's in politics already. it's 2024. are we seriously

saying that because a woman goes out with a bloke who was an mp in a certain conservative, she couldn't ever stand? >> well, she's associated with a man who's accused of quite the most outrageous behaviour. she hasn't toxic and hasn't done it. he's toxic and by definition she is do by definition she is to do nothing wrong. >> , you're touring her. >> you, you're touring her. >> you, you're touring her. >> she's his other half. >> she's his other half. >> doesn't she's done >> doesn't matter. she's done nothing if you suddenly >> doesn't matter. she's done nothi insane if you suddenly >> doesn't matter. she's done nothi insane tomorrow. ;uddenly >> doesn't matter. she's done nothi insane tomorrow. i ddenly >> doesn't matter. she's done nothi insane tomorrow. i thinky went insane tomorrow. i think that people . are we going to that people. are we going to blame your wife? it's been a long three years. no, we're not going to blame her for that. so you blame helen harrison you can't blame helen harrison or whatever partner has done. >> except of course , done. » except >> except that, of course, it's. >> except that, of course, it's. >> you know, she's not responsible his behaviour. responsible for his behaviour. >> can't stand responsible for his behaviour. >> way can't stand responsible for his behaviour. >> way people can't stand responsible for his behaviour. >> way people blame stand responsible for his behaviour. >> way people blame hillary the way people blame hillary clinton for the things that bill clinton for the things that bill clinton for. clinton is in the news for. exactly. but the difference is that peter bone said, if you don't girlfriend , then don't select my girlfriend, then i will run against the tories. so now that is so you can't win. now that is trying to blackmail those voters i >>i -- >> i don't emma >> i don't think that swung at one iota. you can't. >> why did he bother doing it? >> why did he bother doing it? >> so are you saying that the tory party members who voted for

her bribed that in some way? >> i'll tell you, i actually have this tory have some insight to this tory central party had put on central party had to put her on the he said the short list because he said he'd that threat, and so he'd made that threat, and so she probably wouldn't have got to go to the vote in the first. >> i don't think that that, you know, the tories are they had an 18,000 majority, have an 18,000 majority but the majority in the seat, but the rumours that they're rumours are already that they're going it in the going to lose it in the election. so that kind of threat from the good news is she from bowen, the good news is she won't mp, be won't be the mp, it'll be a labour mp. >> well, i think she >> well, i don't think she should on the short list. >> i think %- >> i think it's an insult to voters. bowen been chucked voters. bowen has been chucked out be replaced by his out only to be replaced by his other half. couldn't make it other half. you couldn't make it up, belinda. >> i'm sorry mark, i agree with carroll. i think this is a formidable woman. stood formidable woman. she stood before in 2017. >> she's a potential mp in her own not think own right, and i do not think partners should responsible own right, and i do not think pa accountable. responsible or accountable. >> think she's >> i don't think she's formidable. i think she's foolish. is she doing with foolish. what is she doing with a man accused of a man? with a man accused of these quite outrageous actions? >> mark, the thing is, is that rishi a big mistake. rishi has made a big mistake. not endorsing her because, yes , not endorsing her because, yes, he needs be going around and he needs to be going around and thanking anyone enough to

thanking anyone brave enough to stand and represent the conservative in the next conservative party in the next election, because many are going to face complete humiliation. well, should be. should be well, he should be. he should be begging thanking people. he begging and thanking people. he is a gift for labour supporters. who else? it is a gift for reform uk as well, because the fantastic habib standing fantastic ben habib is standing there , um, against her. helen there, um, against her. helen mirren as well. >> a vote for reform uk is a vote for keir starmer. a vote for labour is a tory. will be debating that with richard tice in just a few minutes time. >> it's not a good look if you don't understand the rules of the political game, but the rules of the political game, say the tory party members get to choose who the candidate. >> it looks like sleaze . i think >> it looks like sleaze. i think it's a terrible look and i think it's a terrible look and i think it's undemocratic. benjamin butterworth to parachute the butterworth to parachute in the other of guy that's other half of the guy that's been chucked out, you couldn't make it well, i don't know make it up. well, i don't know that she was parachuted in, but the fact i think that the fact is, i think that clearly bowen clearly peter bowen was blackmailing party and clearly peter bowen was blachas|iling party and clearly peter bowen was blac has affected party and clearly peter bowen was blachas affected the party and clearly peter bowen was blac has affected the decision nd clearly peter bowen was blac has affected the decision of has has affected the decision of those. there's no evidence, there's no evidence that he blackmailed party.

blackmailed the party. >> plus he has no power. >> plus he has no power. >> but you know what? he is carole malone. this this harrison lady. she's a nepo baby. nepotism of the baby. this is nepotism of the third is not a nepo baby. third degree is not a nepo baby. >> she's been a political person in her own right. for i think it stinks. how dare you say she's a nepo baby? no, she isn't. she's worked for the council that she's been a tory member of the council and council for years. and as beunda council for years. and as belinda said, stood for her belinda just said, stood for her own seat. >> how dare and she. she's >> how dare you? and she. she's the of guy that's the other half of the guy that's been in disgrace. been chucked out in disgrace. >> exist in men's or not. >> well done carole. exactly. beautifully said. >> okay, well, listen, i beg to differ, but this show is all about opinions. what yours? about opinions. what is yours? market com still to market gb news. com still to come. tice was not happy come. richard tice was not happy with my internet breaking monologue last night that blasted uk for handing blasted reform uk for handing sir keir starmer the keys to number 10. reform uk prime project with admirable aims , project with admirable aims, goals and policies. risk tax sweeping him to an historic landslide . well, richard and i landslide. well, richard and i will do battle. he is riled and

ready for a row very shortly. you won't want to miss it. but next in our head to head disability benefits for anxiety and depression have surged up to 200 fold over the last decade . 200 fold over the last decade. so is the serious issue of mental illness being exploited by some to game the welfare system? entrepreneur and mentor mike green and tv therapist sally baker lock horns on that. next, you're watching mark dolan in for patrick christys tonight on gb news the people's channel,

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back. >> now i think it's disgraceful that peter bowen, disgraced tory mp , is to be replaced as one of mp, is to be replaced as one of the candidates in a by—election by his own girl friend. opinion is coming in thick and fast on email market gb news. com mark says chris you are out of order. the members have chosen her end of story . linda says i think the of story. linda says i think the whole bowen thing stinks. i agree with you and louise. mark, you're correct about peter bowen's girlfriend standing as a candidate . people are judged by candidate. people are judged by the company they choose . keep the company they choose. keep those emails coming. you are watching patrick christys tonight with me , mark dolan with tonight with me, mark dolan with you all week. lovely to have your company coming up. reform uk leader richard tice takes me to for saying a vote for to task for saying a vote for his party will hand the keys of number to keir starmer. but number 10 to keir starmer. but first our head to head . now

first our head to head. now 2 million extra brits are due to be claiming disability benefits by 2030, with depression and anxiety now the leading reasons for these benefits being paid. official forecasts predict that costs will rise . to £48 billion costs will rise. to £48 billion a year by the end of the decade, pushing the cost to the taxpayer up pushing the cost to the taxpayer ”p by pushing the cost to the taxpayer up by more than 50. experts fear that benefit spending is rapidly running out of control, which will leave future governments struggling to fund other critical public services. this comes just months after workplace absences in britain hit a ten year high, with stress as the leading cause of long time sickness. indeed, disability benefits for anxiety and depression have surged up to 200 fold over the last decade , 200 fold over the last decade, according to official figures . according to official figures. so tonight i'm asking, is the serious issue of mental illness being exploited by to some game the welfare system ? let me know the welfare system? let me know your thoughts. market gbnews.com your thoughts. market gb news.com or tweet your thoughts. market gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. we'll

bnng or tweet me at gb news. we'll bring you the results of the poll shortly. but to debate this going head to head, i'm delighted to welcome entrepreneur and mentor mike green. mike and tv therapist sally baker, sally , let me start sally baker, sally, let me start with you. do you think the system is being gamed by people pretending to have mental health illnesses ? illnesses? >> i don't think the system is being gained by people pretending to have mental health issues.i pretending to have mental health issues. i think there are a lot of very, very mentally unwell people out there, and there are literally no services , so there literally no services, so there are barely any services for children. we've got something like a quarter of a million children on waiting lists of six months to see a practitioner , months to see a practitioner, and once hit 18 and you're and once you hit 18 and you're part of the adult mental health services, whatever was available for children is halved , for children is halved, quartered, disappears completely for adults. we are working a threadbare system, but sally , threadbare system, but sally, why is mental health such a massive issue in the 21st century when we have , you know,

century when we have, you know, order on the streets, nobody really goes hungry in this country in the 1930s, the early 19405, country in the 1930s, the early 1940s, german bombs were raining over london and we didn't have a mental health crisis . mental health crisis. >> what's changed? we had a unified country when we faced the germany and the war. >> what we've got now is we're watching a master class of corruption and fraud . from the corruption and fraud. from the tory government. so if anyone is gaming the system, it's because they've watched it for 13 years. how other people can be on the make and get away with it. but sally, are you are you weaponising mental health to make this political and to attack the tories . it's attack the tories. it's political in as much that it's not funded. mental health services are not funded and if they're funded at all, it's much more telemetric kind of service that are available for people. i mean, waiting if you've got a child who is no longer eating or is self—harming , um, you know, is self—harming, um, you know, showing signs of anorexia or suicidal ideation and you're waiting up to six months for

them to have their first appointment that is terrified. dying for parents. yeah, terrifying . terrifying. >> okay, sally, you raise a good point. mike green, your reaction to the fact that the number of people that are receiving benefits and will receive benefits and will receive benefits due to mental health issues is sky rocketing . issues is sky rocketing. >> yeah, there's no doubt about it. mark it is skyrocketing. and you know, how can we say that nobody is defrauded . you know, nobody is defrauded. you know, all sorts of reports and studies have shown that at least 8 to 10, uh, percent of the people are defrauding the benefit system. so it's definitely happening. i mean, to me, i look at the fact that, uh, you know, it's doubled in the last ten years, it's going to go up by 50% in the next ten years. but more importantly, nobody would deny or deprive a genuinely ill people from the care they need and the support they need. the problem is that we're grouping and encapsulating serious disabilities in with, uh,

anxiety , stress. they might be anxiety, stress. they might be temporary issues. they're not long terme and many of them are lifestyle affected . you know, lifestyle affected. you know, more than 50. if you look at all the figures and go into the things that are labelled as disabled from arthritis, back pain, chronic heart failure, copd , uh, epilepsy and so on. copd, uh, epilepsy and so on. some of them are really serious issues. many of them are affected smoking , drinking, affected by smoking, drinking, obesity . these are obesity. these are self—inflicted. at what point should people take self response ability for their own health, mental or physical? that is becoming a drain on the country thatis becoming a drain on the country that is not affordable . you that is not affordable. you know, as i said, nobody wants to depnve know, as i said, nobody wants to deprive those really in need. but it is not affordable and it is so loose and easy for anyone to claim if they just claim some stress or anxiety these days . stress or anxiety these days. well, that's right. >> i mean, you don't have to prove stress or anxiety, do you, sally ? you do have prove sally? you do have to prove arthritis or a broken leg . i arthritis or a broken leg. i think the whole idea that we've got so many people now using food banks , i mean, the bedrock

food banks, i mean, the bedrock of sound, resilient mental health is , is, you know, good health is, is, you know, good housing, good quality housing, a roof over your head , good roof over your head, good nutritious food on the table , nutritious food on the table, enough money to heat your house all of these things are under pressure now. pressure how. >> pressure now. >> people are really struggling with the cost of living crisis, the crisis. what what liz the energy crisis. what what liz truss did with mortgages . these truss did with mortgages. these are, you know, the majority of benefits go to working people . benefits go to working people. and when you look at the 24 million people who are claiming some level of disability allowance or associated allowance or or other associated benefits, 12 million of those are pensioners . so, you know, are pensioners. so, you know, you can tire people. but actually this is this is a system systematic. now within in within the system. so i take like you take very seriously um, major mental health issues. >> if somebody wants to take their own life. we know about their own life. we know about the worrying spectre of male suicide. and if you need treatment, you absolutely should have it. and i agree with you. it's not sufficiently funded. but i think what mike's saying,

it's not sufficiently funded. but myink what mike's saying, it's not sufficiently funded. but my concern mike's saying, it's not sufficiently funded. but my concern iinke's saying, it's not sufficiently funded. but my concern is how saying, it's not sufficiently funded. but my concern is how this ng, it's not sufficiently funded. but my concern is how this can and my concern is how this can be by workshy be manipulated by workshy layabouts who will just say, oh, i've got stress. and they get a month off work or worst case scenario, the government will be paying scenario, the government will be paying for them . paying for them. >> so many people are working on what are now called casual contracts. these be called zero hour contracts. many people are terrified about losing their jobs and won't be going sick, even when they feel terrible, unless they in the public unless they work in the public sector . i unless they work in the public sector. i don't unless they work in the public sector . i don't know about the sector. i don't know about the pubuc sector. i don't know about the public sector. i mean, you can get some time off work. you're going go back through , you going to go back through, you know, intake process of know, the intake process of wherever you work. but if there are people gaming the system, they the minority , be majority. >> how you say that, sally? >> how can you say that, sally? where's the proof? how can you say a minority ? say they're a minority? >> have been going >> the figures have been going up mental health over the up for mental health over the last 13 the services, last 13 years. the services, the availability have availability of services have been decreasing. this is this is a gradual growing problem . a gradual growing problem. >> um, but, sally, how are you? how are you going fund this? how are you going to fund this? because think we can agree because i think we can all agree we're not able raise taxes we're not able to raise taxes anymore because that kills

economic are economic growth. and there are the highest since the war. the highest level since the war. we can't borrow any more money because the debt is £26 trillion. so which other department would you take this mental health investment from? doesit mental health investment from? does it go or go off defence? does it go or go off defence? doesit does it go or go off defence? does it go or go off defence? does it go off schools. does it go off the nhs police. we've got 7.8 million people on waiting lists on the nhs now for surgeries and treatments. >> their mental health is hugely affected by chronic back pain, stress. you can call it stress and you think, oh well, it's nothing. you know, debilitating stress where you can't get up in the morning, you can't leave the house. agoraphobia, all of those things for things are major issues for people that they're living with, and they're completely unsupported. they're being unsupported. they're not being able to access even a gp never loan a mental health professional . professional. >> uh, mike, what would you say you've many successful you've run many successful businesses a colleague of businesses if a colleague of yours, one of your employees , yours, one of your employees, said, i need a month off because i've stress. would i've got stress. what would your reaction be? >> well, as you said , i mentor >> well, as you said, i mentor a lot of businesses, and i agree

with sally on so much about the people genuinely people that are genuinely debilitated by this. think debilitated by this. but i think so many people are just exploiting the fact that i could claim stress. i could have millions in the bank. this is not means tested, and i could immediately access pip personal independence payments of 170 or whatever the number is at the moment. about i can access that irrespective of the money i have now when it comes to business, everyone talks about the big businesses, unilevers , the businesses, the unilevers, the bp's, tesco's, but 99.2% of bp's, the tesco's, but 99.2% of businesses, 5.5 million businesses, 5.5 million businesses in the uk have less than 50 employees, many less than 50 employees, many less than ten. they are literally disabled by so many people exploited the ease at which they can go off work and claim benefits , rather than accepting benefits, rather than accepting that we need to be a bit tougher in the in the, um, process that defines what is disability and who should qualify , and a means who should qualify, and a means testing to say should they get

it ? okay, you know, we can't it? okay, you know, we can't just keep throwing money out. it's another £20 billion on where it was ten years ago. it's predicted to grow by 17 billion more pounds a year in the next seven years. okay get to a point eventually. at this rate, where more people will be taking than will be contributing . you know, will be contributing. you know, however, we look at the problem , however, we look at the problem, it is not sustainable. >> okay, mike, briefly. last word. sally mental health is has always been the most underfunded of all of the nhs services. >> it is now on the floor. we really need to fund it properly. this is not about more disclosure, more discussion about mental health. this is about mental health. this is about services that are required i >> -- >> now lam >> now sally, a real treat to have you on the show. thank you so much forjoining us. we'll catch up again sally baker catch up again soon. sally baker is therapist and good is a tv therapist and good friend of news entrepreneur friend of gb news entrepreneur and mentor mike green . okay, who and mentor mike green. okay, who do you agree with? uh, 2 million more people will be claiming disability benefits by 2030. and the issue of mental illness is

front and centre of that. is it being gamed, ed, in terms of the welfare system ? marty on twitter welfare system? marty on twitter says if people are lying about it, i hope they feel guilty. i hope people who are actually ill won't be punished, says. won't be punished, susie says. i actually know someone who's doing makes my blood doing this. it makes my blood boil. think there boil. sandra, i think there should be random spot checks for people claiming these benefits. if nothing to hide, if you've got nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind. well your verdict is in. you've been voting the text poll. 89% say voting in the text poll. 89% say that yes, people are exploiting mental health services , 11% say mental health services, 11% say they are not. not coming up. as they are not. not coming up. as the country continues to reel from the post office scandal and evidence emerges that former minister for postal affairs sir ed davey dismissed and ignored pleas for help from campaigning subpostmasters . should the lib subpostmasters. should the lib dem leader resign . fleet street dem leader resign. fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie has been frothing at the mouth on that one. he's going to let rip shortly live in the studio. plus, we'll talk about joey barton. first, someone else barton. but first, someone else is not happy at the moment, not

happy with me is reform uk leader richard tice. i'm his number one target. reform uk project with admirable aims, goals and policies risks sweeping him to an historic landslide . yes, it's twice landslide. yes, it's twice versus dolan. next you're watching mark dolan in for patrick christys on gb news

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>> welcome back. coming up in the royal dispatch, lady colin campbell and phil dampier tackle allegations of prince andrew's sex tapes taken by jeffrey epstein. plus i'll be asking, do you think that prince andrew should remarry sarah ferguson to rescue his reputation? we'll discuss that shortly . but first, discuss that shortly. but first, richard tice now , last night on richard tice now, last night on gb news, we always set the agenda and take a listen to my big opinion . really loves labour big opinion. really loves labour or has much enthusiasm for the cause. or has much enthusiasm for the cause . and i've never met a keir cause. and i've never met a keir starmer fan, but the entire reform uk project with admirable aims, goals and policies, risks sweeping him to an historic landslide . yes, that's what i landslide. yes, that's what i said. it broke the internet . you said. it broke the internet. you are a step for reform . uk is are a step for reform. uk is a step too , farage, because it step too, farage, because it does guarantee labour five years. but reform leader richard tice didn't agree. he hit back on twitter and he said dear mark because he's always very polite. you admit the tories are toxic

and dreadful, yet you seem to want to stifle democracy by preventing millions of people from saying they want an alternative, they want reform . alternative, they want reform. uk both labour and tories two sides are the same socialist coin. only reform can save britain, says richard tice . britain, says richard tice. well, he's with me in the studio. hello, richard. very good evening, mark. >> now listen, you're behind the times. friend richard times. my friend richard littlejohn in the daily mail. i think on the think we may have it on the screen. last friday he screen. yeah. last friday he quite up the quite rightly put up the headline. the tories headline. maybe the tories should stand down in favour of reform uk because head to head i beat keir starmer any day of the week . but beat keir starmer any day of the week. but you're thinking old school mark, what's going on here. why are you trying to perpetuate failure . you have to perpetuate failure. you have to punish and failure . punish incompetence and failure. if you a bad job presenting, if you do a bad job presenting, you fired. most definitely . you get fired. most definitely. it's even important that if it's even more important that if someone does a bad job running the country breaking the country, breaking the country, we, the voters have got to fire them . now, what i'm to fire them. now, what i'm saying to the country is, look , saying to the country is, look, both main parties are woeful.

there are two forms of socialism, that's for sure. the tories are breaking, have broken it. labour will bankrupt it. it's a catastral p. the country needs to wake up and vote reform. what you're suggesting is that. no, no, no, we'll let the dreadful toxic situation permeate and perpetuate because i'm happy for people to vote out of fear. what a dreadful way to i live in the real world. >> we have a very rigged electoral system. i know you'll agree with that first past the post, which favours you agree with me? >> we should have proportional representation. >> there's degree common >> there's a degree of common ground your ground there. plus, i like your policies i you'd make policies and i think you'd make a minister. but the a great prime minister. but the problem time, problem is, in a year's time, that ain't going to happen. okay? half will not be. >> it would have. >> it would have. >> littlejohn because >> littlejohn was right. because we a chance. we gave the tories a chance. >> i don't know what what's our taste? your mrs. has curtains taste? your mrs. has in curtains for she won't be for number 10, but she won't be going john lewis's going to down john lewis's haberdashery going to down john lewis's haberdasherthe it's of first past the post. it's labour or right. so that labour or tory, right. so that means is. means it is. >> you're saying we stand down so millions of people are not allowed opinion. allowed to express an opinion. >> dilemma and you >> here's your dilemma and you

perpetuate the perpetuate failure. here's the thing keep our thing that ought to keep our tice awake at night. tice esquire awake at night. right? it's not mrs. tice . right? and it's not mrs. tice. what you need to think about is it's starmer sunak and it's starmer versus sunak and you know as well as i do that starmer is a million times worse. look sunak has failed. >> tories are finished. >> the tories are finished. >> the tories are finished. >> you can't address point. >> you can't address that point. you address that point. >> a million >> what i'm starmer is a million times worse. >> what addressing is that >> what i'm addressing is that starmageddon would be an equal catastrophe country, catastrophe for the country, as sunak tories regime has been, and the country needs to wake up and the country needs to wake up and realise that both of them will represent no growth and we are going to start to run out of money and look , starmageddon is money and look, starmageddon is bad.sunakis money and look, starmageddon is bad. sunak is bad. you can't trust a word these people say. the country needs change. you've got to give country . democracy got to give country. democracy works. when people have different choices. you believe in competition. you're of a conservative philosophy . ed conservative philosophy. ed davey why are you trying to prevent competition by preventing from standing mark? >> because i'm a realist. so if i could press a button and have reform as perhaps reform uk as perhaps the dominant in the dominant right voice in the country, but what country, i would. but what you're to go

you're asking britain to go through is five of keir through is five years of keir starmer's prime minister. in order to achieve that. but here's worried about. here's what i'm worried about. >> believe democracy. >> i don't believe in democracy. you're admitting you don't believe democracy? believe in democracy? of course i and my view i've got >> and my view is and i've got no doubt and of course, you must stand. i'm saying to my stand. but i'm saying to my viewers and listeners, i'm worried about the consequences of reform uk at the of a vote for reform uk at the moment, because the issue we have is that you're gambling or you're on the you're putting the house on the tories collapsing in a year's time, which may , so that time, which they may, so that reform can either then infiltrate tories and make infiltrate the tories and make them or them properly conservative, or replace them. right. okay, so let's replace. but i can't replace them you don't let me replace them if you don't let me stand. may happen in stand. but what may happen in between years a between is five years of a starmer government, potentially 150 seat majority for keir starmer . he 150 seat majority for keir starmer. he could drastically and permanently change the country that time. five years country in that time. five years to off britain . to finish off britain. >> the tories have had an 80 seat majority and they've broken britain country needs to britain and the country needs to wake realise that both wake up and realise that both forms of socialism, um, if forms of socialism, um, and if we don't course and if we don't change course and if people don't vote for reform, we're in deep trouble now. >> man, bold

>> you're a brave man, a bold man, a of and man, a man of vision and integrity. course are . integrity. of course you are. but what risking is but what you're risking is a decade in power. decade of labour in power. >> what you're asking, when >> now, what you're asking, when we ten years time, we meet in ten years time, we're hopefully still got our hopefully both still got our hair. >> what will you say to me if in ten we've still got ten years time we've still got labour will you labour in power? will you apologise, guys? >> we won't have. >> no, listen, we won't have. the will have come the country will have come to its senses . what you're suggesting. >> do think five years is >> do you think five years is a price five of labour? >> look, it's . >> look, it's. >>- >> look, it's. >> look, it's. >> look, the five years of £28 billion a year on flaky renewables. >> that's what your mate starmer is going under the tories. is going to do under the tories. he's going to make it illegal. >> year is >> the deficit this year is going to be £150 this going to be £150 billion this year tories. growth year under the tories. no growth at all. the country we're actually declining . our economy actually declining. our economy is falling highest taxes though, and mass immigration who voted for mass immigration. the tories lied. they betrayed the principles and they've got to be punished . punished. >> nervous a labour >> really nervous about a labour government. going government. and you're going to usher they to make usher them in. they want to make it to misgender someone , it illegal to misgender someone, a who campaigned a prime minister who campaigned to brexit. he doesn't to reverse brexit. he doesn't know what a woman is folding to the unions wokery in our

institutions, you're guaranteed five years of misery. you're my viewers and listeners. >> you're agreeing with me that it be a disaster and that it would be a disaster and that actually we, tories, they've actually we, the tories, they've had chance . stood down had their chance. we stood down for 2019. they've messed for them in 2019. they've messed up. they've completely fouled up. they've completely fouled up. it's time for them to do the decent thing on behalf of the country. they should stand down as littlejohn said, let as richard littlejohn said, let me keir starmer. we win me take on keir starmer. we win hands down. >> do you accept that >> so do you accept that a labour government is coming, and is that a price worth paying for your political revolution? >> standing everywhere so >> we're standing everywhere so that everybody has the choice to say, reform uk can say, actually only reform uk can save britain. that's how democracy works . i think you're save britain. that's how demo thing. there's >> here's the thing. there's a there's hidden vote, there's a hidden reform vote, a bit shy brexiteers who bit like the shy brexiteers who didn't dare admit don't tell anyone i voted brexit. and it's the same with 17.6 million people. yeah, but we've got we've got tory. >> the best case scenario . >> the best case scenario. >> the best case scenario. >> what's. don't tell anyone. i'm going to vote. >> mean, listen, i've been >> i mean, listen, i've been given a very red bottom by my

viewers listeners after last viewers and listeners after last night's take at ten, they're furious deservedly because furious. deservedly so, because they of yours. they are big fans of yours. okay, what is a good outcome okay, but what is a good outcome in a year's time? then won't in a year's time? then you won't get mps. will you? get any mps. will you? >> you're so negative . i >> oh, you're so negative. i want to vote positively. want people to vote positively. not out of fear. >> how many mps? >> how many mps? >> what's the projection? >> i want millions of people. 15. millions of people to 15. i want millions of people to vote i want vote reform. and i want proportional representation. and i save britain. we're in i want to save britain. we're in deep whether it's deep trouble. whether it's whether the socialism whether it's the con socialism of tories or the red of the tories or the red socialism of labour, this country is in trouble. it needs change. >> if you if you root the >> if you if you root for the tories next year, which is your plan , would you do a deal with a plan, would you do a deal with a future conservative leader ? future conservative leader? might you take over the conservative party or your pal nigel? >> i want to focus on what our policies, how we're going to say never say never . look, you never say never. look, you should never say never. oh, hello. you should never say neven hello. you should never say never. but here's the point, matthew. >> there's your news line. get that on twitter. >> the tories, the tories have failed. they be failed. they need to be punished. need punished. they need to be ousted. to ousted. they need to be replaced.

>> you something. >> i'll tell you something. we've got a story there. richard tice ruling out that he tice not ruling out that he might conservative tice not ruling out that he might after conservative tice not ruling out that he might after they conservative tice not ruling out that he might after they are conservative tice not ruling out that he might after they are evisceratede party after they are eviscerated at the next general election . at the next general election. i'll tell you one thing that was clear wasn't really the question. >> what i was saying is. >> what i was saying is. >> so do you know are you >> so do you know that? are you saying know? saying never know? >> is that >> what we're saying is that thinking, richard, they need to be a spade. >> they to be punished. >> they need to be punished. >> they need to be punished. >> we're people >> and we're the people to punish them. >> good friend of mine. >> listen, good friend of mine. always you on. always a treat to have you on. and to say, you've put and i've got to say, you've put me in my place. so i enjoyed that debate. your reaction, mark at notwithstanding that debate. your reaction, mark at ten notwithstanding that debate. your reaction, mark at ten no night, anding that debate. your reaction, mark at ten no night, which| my take at ten last night, which of course i stand by, i will confirm richard tice of course i stand by, i will conf reform richard tice of course i stand by, i will confreform uk richard tice of course i stand by, i will confreform uk are richard tice of course i stand by, i will confreform uk are a:hard tice of course i stand by, i will confreform uk are a formidable and reform uk are a formidable political force and they are growing . richard, thank you so growing. richard, thank you so much. lots more to get through folks . don't forget the email is folks. don't forget the email is mark at gb news.com . looking mark at gb news.com. looking forward to having a right old ding dong with kelvin mackenzie . ding dong with kelvin mackenzie. but coming up next in 10:00 at 10:00 in my monologue as sadiq khan bows to the trade unions by offering a hefty pay deal, is bofis offering a hefty pay deal, is boris johnson right? the

capitulation gives us, quote, a foretaste of life under a labour government . next up, the full government. next up, the full extent of the horizon post office scandal has gripped the nation, not least the role played by ed davey during played by sir ed davey during his time in government. i wish i'd known then what we all know how. >> now. >> the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another former ministers . another former ministers. >> so is it time for the lib dem? lib dem leader to resign? fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie takes on the man who wants prime minister next. wants to be prime minister next. also he'll be discussing joey barton's social media meltdown as well. is there double standards at play in terms of how joey barton is being treated and gary lineker? i'll be asking kelvin next. this is mark dolan tonight in for patrick christie tonight on

welcome back. you're watching patrick christys tonight with me mark dolan. only on gb news. now more shocking details have continued

to emerge about the post office scandal, which saw hundreds of innocent subpostmasters hounded for crimes they never committed in what could be the greatest miscarriage of justice in british history. and the spotlight has turned to the actions, or rather inaction, of lib dem leader sir ed davey, who was postal affairs minister from 2010 to 2012 and who dismissed the pleas for help from campaigning subpostmasters like alan bates . davey was out alan bates. davey was out defending himself today , defending himself today, claiming he was lied to. take a listen. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now for the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me . another ministers. was lying on an industrial scale to me . another ministers . and to me. another ministers. and when i met alan bates and listened to his concerns , i put listened to his concerns, i put those concerns to officials in my department to the post office, to national federations, office, to national federations, of postmasters. and it's clear they all were lying to me , with they all were lying to me, with me in the studio is the former editor of the sun fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie. >> kelvin . should he go?

>> kelvin. should he go? >> kelvin. should he go? >> yes, i absolutely think he should go. and that it defence, though was appalling . really though was appalling. really your job. though was appalling. really yourjob. you are the minister. people are lying to you left , people are lying to you left, right and centre. your colleagues are lying to you. the prime minister is lying to you. regulators lying you. big regulators are lying to you. big companies doing companies that you're doing deals with are lying to you. your to out actually your job is to work out actually . well, actually. there . well, actually. is there another truth in all this? and when you meet somebody like alan bates, a choir, but a man concentrating on the detail, you'd have always said to him, there might be something in all this. however, he's not the only idiot in all this. i have never, even idiot in all this. i have never, ever, ever seen a scandal where so many people come out badly. starmer emerges badly. was starmer emerges badly. he was the dp. >> you've been tweeting about this, haven't you? >> dpp? what he have >> the dpp? what could he have done, can done, kelvin? the dpp can overrule the post office, right? right. terms of where the right. in terms of where the people are being charged or not. so idea this is nothing so the idea that this is nothing to do with me, is is to do with me, that is that is crap. like crap. actually, people like david poorly. david cameron come out poorly. after was running the after all, he was running the coalition that appointed that

that at that man. sir ed davey, i see, i nearly see i've learned, i've learned. >> let's keep ourselves on air. yeah, bills pay. yeah, i've got bills to pay. kelvin >> well, heard about those, >> well, i've heard about those, by way. and they've given by the way. and they've given you days and that's your lot. you 30 days and that's your lot. so anyway, the bottom line on it is every body emerges very poorly in all this. and actually the media emerged poorly . yeah. the media emerged poorly. yeah. okay. so where was the sun every day doing the big expose. the big expose. the big expose. what we had to do is sit there and watch a docu drama which uniquely didn't have to overegg the pudding because actually the stories were so upsetting and the scandal and was so bad that in fact they had to do was report it. i have never seen that before and i really salute itv , normally an itv anything to itv, normally an itv anything to do with itv. if holly willoughby didn't turn up on it then you weren't watching itv were you? right this time there was actually some proper journalism meets drama. it's fantastic and i love the reaction of the

normal people. they've seen this and they know that that this might represent a whole load of other things that are going on in their lives, you know, most definitely. and i'm so pleased for it. and the other thing, the other person to give a big tick to richard branson, right, to is richard branson, right, who's free holiday who's now given a free holiday to bates, asked whether to mr bates, who asked whether he in an he could have one. in an interview with the sunday times and come on and richard branson's come on and richard branson's come on and said, yeah, be guest. and and said, yeah, be my guest. and by free by the way, take the free flight. and and flight. upper class and come and stay in necker island. honestly, fantastic. a fantastic coming together over this story. i have never seen journalism like it. >> definitely joey barton >> most definitely joey barton will silenced. kelvin will not be silenced. kelvin after the ex—footballer faced an almighty backlash for comparing itv pundits. any aluko and lucy ward to serial killers fred and rose west ? well, today he's rose west? well, today he's suggested he was duty bound to speak out , writing i've got speak out, writing i've got a great grandfather who was gassed at ypres in 1915, he says. i'm doing it for him. it's a long tweet. there isn't time for all of it, but i just wonder, are there double standards at play

in terms of the way that he's being handled versus gary lineker? i mean, it's just another outspoken sportsman, but joey barton seems to have the wrong opinions . wrong opinions. >> well, it's certainly true. i mean , i'm in favour of free mean, i'm in favour of free speech and mr barton is entitled to have a view and he will now pay to have a view and he will now pay the consequences of having that view. >> unlike mr lineker , unlike mr >> unlike mr lineker, unlike mr lineker , who, when he has lineker, who, when he has a view, the director general who seems to be a supine , rather seems to be a supine, rather strange character , says do you strange character, says do you know that's shocking . know that's shocking. >> we're going to, we're going do that again. and we're going to and nothing ever happens . so to and nothing ever happens. so you where we all want to be gary lineker actually we want to be able to say what we like. trouser 1.5 million a year and that's fine. now you take the other chap. uh, i, i funnily off i agree with some of the aspects about women pundits. right i like them in tennis. i like them in golf. i don't like them in football. right okay. that's my view. you're the founder of view. and you're the founder of talksport you've put plenty talksport and you've put plenty

of female broadcasters of brilliant female broadcasters on air. >> yeah. >> em- >> yeah. >> female pundits 5 female pundits on >> and, and female pundits on the premier league. >> for you it doesn't seem to work and a lot of my work for me now. and a lot of my mates, it doesn't work for them. but bigger problem at but there is a bigger problem at play but there is a bigger problem at play if a major tv network play here. if a major tv network didn't carry the women right, the women would start giving interviews saying that they're misogynists . and then the misogynists. and then the advertisers, unilever and people with anything which might be aimed towards a female area would then say we can't advertise. so it's all commercial, i'm afraid. but as for the other chap, yeah, his views are way over the top in some areas. i agree with them. in other he's entitled to it. but there will be a consequence and i suspect consequence is and i suspect the consequence is that won't working that he won't be working in football briefly football any time soon. briefly kelvin, you've had lots of talent at talksport. >> he was the roster as a >> if he was on the roster as a presenter, you have fired presenter, would you have fired him by now? >> no, i wouldn't , i >> uh, no, i wouldn't, i wouldn't, however , i if the wouldn't, however, i if the advertisers all came to me and said, you know, uh, we're , we're said, you know, uh, we're, we're moving out then, then that might

be a different conversation. but i would hope that i wouldn't do that, because you've got a backbone and balls. >> uh, kelvin, catch you a >> uh, kelvin, catch you in a week's the brilliant >> uh, kelvin, catch you in a week's mackenzie. )rilliant >> uh, kelvin, catch you in a week's mackenzie. okay. it >> uh, kelvin, catch you in a week's mackenzie. okay. speaking kelvin mackenzie. okay. speaking last a liberal democrat last week, a liberal democrat spokesman and admittedly spokesman said and admittedly regrets that the post office were not honest with him at the time. his heart goes out to the families caught up in this miscarriage of justice. he'll fully cooperate with inquiry fully cooperate with the inquiry to bottom of what fully cooperate with the inquiry to wrong. bottom of what fully cooperate with the inquiry to wrong. aottom of what fully cooperate with the inquiry to wrong. a spokesperson: fully cooperate with the inquiry to wrong. a spokesperson for went wrong. a spokesperson for fujitsu, the company behind the faulty system , said the faulty horizon system, said the current office horizon it current post office horizon it statutory is examining statutory inquiry is examining complex events stretching back over 20 years. the inquiry has reinforced the devastating impact on postmasters lives and that of their families , and that of their families, and fujitsu has apologised for its role in their suffering . coming role in their suffering. coming up, prince andrew has endured a torrid couple of years, but will his troubles be over if he really ties the knot with ex—wife sarah ferguson top royal commentators lady colin campbell and phil dampier cover all of that drama and much more in our royal dispatch shortly. what do you think about that? would it

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i >> -- >> it's10:00. this is patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan with you all week. great to have your company labour look odds on to win the next election . does mean that union . but does that mean that union barons be tightening their barons will be tightening their stranglehold britain? stranglehold on britain? boris johnson certainly thinks so. and i'll give my take next. and i'm not pulling my punches. classic things keep getting worse for the playboy prince . yes, prince the playboy prince. yes, prince andrew is battling a seemingly endless stream of salacious allegations . so endless stream of salacious allegations. so is remarrying fergie the answer to his problems? and more humiliation for the other royal outcasts? >> terry called for her and asked her for. money.

>> lady c and phil d get stuck into that in the royal dispatch . into that in the royal dispatch. we'll also take a look at tomorrow's front pages . hot off tomorrow's front pages. hot off the in most the press in the most entertaining paper review on the telly with my press pack tonight . carol maloney, benjamin butterworth and belinda de lucy a packed hour. butterworth and belinda de lucy a packed hour . let's get to work so will labour bow down to the unions and bring us five years of strike chaos? email me at gb news. com i'll be dealing with keir starmer in no uncertain terms after the news headlines and polly middlehurst. mark thank you. >> good evening to you. well, let's start with a little bit of breaking news concerning that aircraft that blew out mid—air.

uh, have been uh, there have been investigations united investigations in the united states and one airline which grounded its fleet united has confirmed evening that it confirmed this evening that it has found loose bolts during inspections of its boeing 737 max nine fleet. so that's the same aircraft that forced to make an emergency landing after the door blew out . airlines the door blew out. airlines across the globe grounded their max nine fleet in the wake of that incident . the door, which that incident. the door, which blew off an alaska airlines plane mid—flight. it was found in a residential back garden in united. aren't confirming at this stage how many of its planes had those loose balls, but that news just in to us that loose bolts are confirmed on the boeing fleet, nine max nine boeing 737 fleet, nine max nine flights fleet. i should say. now, in other news, today , the now, in other news, today, the post office minister says securing justice for victims of the horizon it scandal and making sure such a tragedy never happens again is his highest priority at the time . the former priority at the time. the former post office boss, paula vennells, denied there were

problems with the horizon it system, which showed money was missing from post office branches at reckoning up time, implying theft as a result, hundreds of postmasters and mistresses were convicted, jailed , jailed, bankrupted and jailed, jailed, bankrupted and some even took their own lives. now there are calls for mrs. vennells to be stripped of her cbe and kevin hollinrake has this evening said it's perfectly reasonable people suggest reasonable for people to suggest the idea. an idea supported by the idea. an idea supported by the prime minister. mr hollinrake said he'll update the house about the government's plans to help those affected by the end of week . now the the end of this week. now the offshore petroleum licensing bill will return to the commons within the next two weeks. the government's deputy chief whip announced in the commons that the second reading wouldn't be taking place anymore this evening if it passes the legislation will be mandated for license losses for oil and gas projects in the north sea, to be awarded annually. it's already led to the resignation of the tory mp chris skidmore, who says

the law would now show the uk is rowing ever further back from its climate commitments . and its climate commitments. and a lot more snow and sleet is on the way this evening, with ice warnings issued for southern england and wales. the met office has issued yellow alerts effective until tomorrow morning , and an amber cold health alert has also been issued for parts of england, triggering responses to assist older people or those with cardiovascular or respiratory conditions . as the respiratory conditions. as the cold snap set to continue for the rest of this week as well. and today, sir keir starmer visited flood hit areas in the east midlands, promising that a labour government would do more to protect people's homes. that's after labour accused the government of being asleep at the wheel over flood warnings of which 160 remain in place after thousands of homes were flooded. rishi sunak says the government has invested £5.2 billion in flood defences . now two sporting

flood defences. now two sporting legends passed away today. first of all, the former wales and british lions, irish lions rather full back jpr williams has died at the age of 74. george winning 55 caps for wales . his former club, bridgend, made the announcement saying bridgend ravens are devastated to announce the passing of jpr williams. one of bridgend's most decorated players and an icon of world rugby, and the former england captain , will carling, england captain, will carling, said he was really sorry to hear about the death of one of his heroes when he was growing up . heroes when he was growing up. what a hero, he said. what a warrior and tributes have been pounng warrior and tributes have been pouring in for the german football legend franz beckenbauer, who has died at the age of 78. bayern and germany striker thomas muller called him one of the greatest footballers in the club's history. beckenbauer captaining german germany to world cup victory in 1974, then winning the tournament once again as a manager in 1990. he was nicknamed the kaiser and he

helped guide bayern munich to three successive european cups , three successive european cups, his family saying he died peacefully in his sleep . you peacefully in his sleep. you were gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> thanks, polly. good evening socialist london is a good preview of what the next five years will be like under labour. expensive but often unused cycle lanes, perfectly good cars banned by scientifically debateable clean air rules. banned by scientifically debateable clean air rules . a debateable clean air rules. a soft touch on violence and muggings leading to a knife crime epidemic and the trade unions in charge. london's divisive mayor, who offended generations of working class londoners last year by saying it was immigrants who built the capital and who notoriously put his own name up in lights during the new year's eve fireworks celebrations , has caved in to

celebrations, has caved in to mick lynch and the rmt union's demands by offering a bumper pay rise of millions for the already healthily remunerated tube drivers. all of this to avoid strike chaos . boris johnson, who strike chaos. boris johnson, who took a break from making £27 million a second during public speaking , said this million a second during public speaking, said this is a foretaste of what the country could expect under labour and who could disagree with old bojo should starmageddon, which looks like a racing certainty. now there will be more strikes, not fewer , as the public sector will fewer, as the public sector will expect a cash windfall from an incoming labour government. and how can starmer possibly stand up to the unions when they bankroll his own party? talking about the deal that he just struck in the last 24 hours, sadiq khan said this is what can be achieved by engaging and working with trade unions. do me a favour . this is what can be a favour. this is what can be achieved by giving in to their demands and if that happens at a

national level under prime minister starmer, you and i will be paying for these inflation busting deals as well as future generations. because don't forget that it's all borrowed cash. forget that it's all borrowed cash . now, forget that it's all borrowed cash. now, i'm forget that it's all borrowed cash . now, i'm old enough to cash. now, i'm old enough to remember the strike chaos of the early 1980s, and i do not want to go back there. it's been bad enough under the tories , but at enough under the tories, but at least they've stood their ground against the junior doctors who were pleading poverty and are willing to risk lives and patient care to get what they want . now these junior doctors want. now these junior doctors do a fabulous job. we're all grateful. it's long hours, it's very hard work. but underpaid is stretching it . as the brilliant stretching it. as the brilliant ross clark points out in the sun newspaper in the year to june 2023, a junior doctor in the first year of training earned a mean basic pay of over £28,000 for a 40 hour week. now, when you add £8,000 of extra payments for shift working and better wages in big cities , they were wages in big cities, they were earning almost £37,000. and that

is in their first year when the doctors are still being trained. that's when their students second year. it's an average of 43 k, then 47 k. and once they're consultants , they're they're consultants, they're looking at an average salary of almost £130,000. nice work if you can get it. so when i say that there will be a labour government next year, that's not strictly speaking correct because it's mick lynch and the other union barons that will be running britain . in your running britain. in your reaction market. gb news. com responding to that is my top panel tonight. daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy carroll, five years of strike chaos guaranteed if labour gets in. >> i mean, in.- >> i mean, i in. >> i mean, i think it's completely true, you know, and you're talking about calm there. you know this. this man is a buffoon . he couldn't run a buffoon. he couldn't run a you—know—what on a brewery , let you—know—what on a brewery, let alone capital city. know, alone a capital city. you know, london i should

london has hit tfl. i should say, has had 6 billion in bailouts since 2020. in august 22nd, it got 3.6 billion. that was supposed to make do till the end of 2024. this guy is just haemorrhaging money and he's just caved in to lynch. he's not said where this money is coming from, how it's going to be paid, but you can guarantee it's going to come from londoners who he uses machines. uses his walking cash machines. this guy, this is the this is the man who said there'd no the man who said there'd be no strikes on his watch. he's presided over 140 strikes with tfl . he can't control them. you tfl. he can't control them. you know , to cave into the unions know, to cave into the unions this way. an average the tube driver the average salary for a tube driver is 65 grand a year. these are not people on the bones of their backside . these bones of their backside. these are people who are using he talked about the government taking an adversarial approach to wards. the unions. well, it's better than taking a crawling on your belly approach to the unions by just giving in and giving them. >> it should be a confrontation. it should be a battle. that's

the government's job. >> called negotiation. >> it's called negotiation. and the have offered the government have offered these these drivers . there's these these drivers. there's been lots of offers over the past six months and they've knocked most of them back. and, you they just want what you know, they just want what they want. and this is exactly how be when labour get how it'll be when labour get into all the money is into power. all the money is going spent on the public going to be spent on the public services , everyone will services, and everyone else will get nothing. be it'll services, and everyone else will get londoners. be it'll services, and everyone else will getlondoners. it'll be it'll services, and everyone else will get londoners. it'll be be it'll services, and everyone else will get londoners. it'll be the t'll services, and everyone else will get londoners. it'll be the rest be londoners. it'll be the rest of the people in the country who are for what happens. are paying for what happens. >> definitely. benjamin. >> most definitely. benjamin. five of union chaos under laboun >>i laboun >> i mean, look , if you look at >> i mean, look, if you look at historically strike days are always considerably lower under labour governments than because they capitulate . and we have they capitulate. and we have just had years of strikes because people have been on the most incredible low pay. the idea the government and the government have stood their ground, stood their ground on the nurses standing, their ground on the junior doctors. >> keir starmer won't do that because are because the unions are bankrolling party. bankrolling his own party. >> is not 63 grand a >> low pay is not 63 grand a yeah >> low pay is not 63 grand a year. ben >> no it's not. >> no it's not. >> but the fact is that across the board tfl, were offered

the board tfl, they were offered 5, inflation pay 5, which was below inflation pay rise. not below inflation rise. it's not below inflation now is it. it's not. but it was at the time it was given in 2023. and that's what the strike is over. people were is over. so these people were getting private getting below what the private sector was getting on average below effectively you're below what effectively you're talking . talking nonsense. >> striking >> they're striking retrospectively have your retrospectively if you have your way, butterworth , if way, benjamin butterworth, if you have your way , okay. you have your way, okay. >> have your labour government. mick lynch will be prime minister, not keir starmer. >> god you do talk some codswallop . codswallop. >> he's already beaten >> i mean, he's already beaten the labour mayor. he's the mayor the labour mayor. he's going beat the labour prime minister. >> rmt, which mick lynch >> rmt, which is what mick lynch runs, affiliated runs, has never been affiliated to the labour party. mick lynch does not vote labour. it is not affiliated to labour. he's a self—described communist. so the idea they have a link, they don't fund the labour party . it don't fund the labour party. it is complete nonsense what you have. >> just labour need to keep the rmt happy and their members. >> no they don't. there's no link. >> that is labour, there's no electoral between the labour party and rmt , and the rmt party and the rmt, and the rmt only really considerable only really has considerable power telling me there will

>> are you telling me there will be strikes labour gets in? >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> what have been drinking? absolutely >> only i think there will be because going to get because they're going to get what they want. because they're going to get whtbut ey want. because they're going to get whtbut the vant. because they're going to get whtbut the fact australians >> but the fact is australians know you've situation here >> but the fact is australians know jthe ve situation here >> but the fact is australians know jthe economy;ituation here >> but the fact is australians know jthe economy wastion here >> but the fact is australians know jthe economy was goingere >> but the fact is australians know jthe economy was going to >> but the fact is australians know london'siomy was going to >> but the fact is australians know london's economy going to >> but the fact is australians know london's economy was|g to lose. london's economy was going to million these to lose £50 million from these strikes. we to fix strikes. and we managed to fix that finding the money so that by finding the money so there hang minute. >> what on earth is the problem? >> what on earth is the problem? >> there's no money to be found for working people poorer, for working people to be poorer, so peddle your so that you can peddle your ideas. the tory party is. you so that you can peddle your ideas.whattory party is. you so that you can peddle your ideas.what lyry party is. you so that you can peddle your ideas.what i want,ty is. you so that you can peddle your ideas.what i want, big;. you know what i want, big billionaire. would you like to know? i you what. i'd know? and i tell you what. i'd rather trade unions rather that trade unions were in charge. >> would you like to know what i want? inflation so want? i want low inflation so that and my that my listeners and my viewers, the money they make every week, actually is worth something. give to something. and if you give to in these pay these inflation busting pay rises, inflation rises, you will see inflation come a vengeance. come back with a vengeance. higher prices i think we have high inflation because of workers couple workers pay in the last couple of because that's what of years, because that's what happens you inflation happens when you have inflation busting sparks inflation. >> you cannot have an arms race andifs >> you cannot have an arms race and it's clearly not you. >> well less lefty think tank benjamin. >> you cannot sell this as a win for sadiq khan. he completely

and caving into train and utterly caving into train drivers who what press the green button for go and red button to stop. >> linda can you give me the national perspective? i've got viewers and listeners in manchester, , in manchester, in cardiff, in belfast, edinburgh. why does belfast, in edinburgh. why does this matter them? this story matter to them? >> i think it matters to them so much. >> i actually agree with carol. i there'll be less strikes i think there'll be less strikes under labour because they're going cave in to all their going to cave in to all their demands, because the demands, because what the message out demands, because what the m hold ie out demands, because what the m hold us out demands, because what the m hold us to out demands, because what the m hold us to ransom out demands, because what the m hold us to ransom and out demands, because what the m hold us to ransom and will out is hold us to ransom and will cave in. so what's stopping them from 80 grand from asking you for 80 grand next year knows khan cave next year if he knows khan cave deluise , you've got ask deluise, you've got to ask butterworth a question. >> which is? where is this money for rises going come? for pay rises going to come? >> it going on? the >> why isn't it going on? the police, far police, which london needs far more. going to do? more. what are you going to do? >> department will you >> which department will you take money to give to take the money out of to give to train drivers and everyone else that more money? train drivers and everyone else tha well, more money? train drivers and everyone else tha well, thatyre money? train drivers and everyone else tha well, that money ey? train drivers and everyone else tha well, that money isn't coming >> well, that money isn't coming from central government. no straight answer wouldn't be a laboun be straight answer wouldn't be a labour. be a labour labour. it wouldn't be a labour government. >> that has >> this money has come that has bailed this has bailed khan out this year has come can come from the department of. can i that is central i just point out that is central government. get your facts right benjamin.

>> well, let me tell you a fact. first that first of all, you said that junior work 40 hours, junior doctors work 40 hours, which wrong. their contracts which is wrong. their contracts are 48 hours. are for 48 hours. >> get overtime. >> they get overtime. >> they get overtime. >> their basic is 40 >> that's their basic is 40 hours. the figures quoted. >> wrong. plus shifts. >> wrong. plus shifts. >> your figures >> wrong. plus shifts. >> conservative your figures >> wrong. plus shifts. >> conservative becauseiures >> wrong. plus shifts. >> conservative because ines >> wrong. plus shifts. >> conservative because in the were conservative because in the third year they get between 50 and and you're and 60 grand. and what you're not is not including in any of that is the they get £2 of the 20% pension they get £2 of every they pay the pension every £10, they pay the pension and and the cost of their and the and the cost of their education to the taxpayer. >> point out, boris >> just to point out, when boris johnson finished being mayor of london, conservative london, the conservative chancellor removed , chancellor great years removed, moved billion pound a year moved the billion pound a year subsidy that central government gave and he's had for london since 2020. i'm just pointing out the politicking, just pointing out they removed the money. the central government gives to transport for london when mayor, when sadiq khan became mayor, which changed the which completely changed the maths. it is six billions in bailouts since 2020, so that billion doesn't count because in 3 billion a year in three. >> 6 billion. okay, there you go . they are throwing figures around and covid. >> he's been bailed out. >> he's been bailed out. >> it's all funny. you mentioned

covid because mayor khan begged the government to put london into lockdown in the capital. there you go. capital city are still paying the price, folks . still paying the price, folks. it's all kicked off for your reaction. market gbnews.com reaction. market gb news.com still to reaction. market gbnews.com still to come, tonight's passionate panel join me to run through the first of tomorrow's front pages and cracking stories in the papers in what is the liveliest paper review on british tv. but next would prince andrew a solution to prince andrew find a solution to his by remarrying his his problems by remarrying his ex—wife sarah ferguson, and also do those gags about harry and meghan at last night's golden globes ? do they prove that globes? do they prove that sussexes have finally lost hollywood turns out prince harry and meghan markle will still get paid millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing, and that's just, uh, lady colin campbell and phil dampier beam in to offer their unique analysis in tonight's royal dispatch. what do think dispatch. but what do you think about tantalise question dispatch. but what do you think about princeantalise question dispatch. but what do you think about prince andrew question dispatch. but what do you think about prince andrew remarry should prince andrew remarry sarah ferguson to rescue his reputation ? would you watch the reputation? would you watch the wedding on telly? where would it

happen? probably a wetherspoons . happen? probably a wetherspoons. we'll discuss that very shortly. you're watching patrick christys tonight dolan . tonight with me. mark dolan. only on .

on gb news, the people's channel on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. >> welcome back to the show. more newspaper front pages coming up , more newspaper front pages coming up, but time now for the royal dispatch with lady c and phil dampier.

royal dispatch with lady c and phil dampier . as we talk about phil dampier. as we talk about prince andrew, it would be rude not to. he's been all but banished from public life and his brother the king is now being urged to give him the final chop by kicking him out of his residence in his royal lodge residence in windsor park. but his royal lodge residence in windsor park . but despite all windsor park. but despite all his tribulations off the back of his tribulations off the back of his disastrous friendship with paedophile jeffrey epstein, the duke of york is now being mooted to rekindle an old flame by sensationally remarrying ex—wife sarah ferguson in a bid to salvage his tattered reputation . salvage his tattered reputation. one former royal correspondent and good friend of the show , and good friend of the show, michael cole, wrote in the daily express it would be the most significant step towards restoring his reputation and finding a way back to public life, which he desperately wants. well, there you go. what a tantalising thought . should a tantalising thought. should andrew remarry sarah ferguson, lady c, is that the idea? would that save him ?

that save him? >> well, i don't know that it would save him, but i think it's a very good idea. the fact of the matter is, they never really wanted to get divorced in the first place. they were more or less bounced into a divorce. not the separation, but the divorce. although they were also she was bounced into the separation , and bounced into the separation, and i think it would actually be a very good thing if they remarried . i don't know to what remarried. i don't know to what extent it would save him, but i think it would certainly be a very positive step for him personally , and it would take a personally, and it would take a lot of boxes. indeed >> ladies, see, you've always got your finger on the pulse. they cohabit it, don't they? in the royal lodge more or less. do you think they're already friends with benefits ? friends with benefits? >> well , uh, friends with benefits? >> well, uh, mark, let's friends with benefits? >> well , uh, mark, let's let's >> well, uh, mark, let's let's stick to the drawing room and not stay away into horizontal quarters, shall we, lady c,

you're not getting shy on me, are you? >> no , i'm not, i'm simply >> no, i'm not, i'm simply drawing a veil over things that i think are indecorous to address. well sometimes silence is deafening . address. well sometimes silence is deafening. uh, address. well sometimes silence is deafening . uh, what do you is deafening. uh, what do you think about this story? because in pr terms, phil dampier , this in pr terms, phil dampier, this would be ideal for prince andrew, wouldn't it? i mean, we'd all be watching the wedding i >> -- >> yeah. good evening. mark well, believe it or not, and i know i don't look old enough. my first job was in 1986. was covering their wedding in westminster really westminster abbey. so it really would be going circle if would be going full circle if they married second they got married for the second time. say , i just time. but i have to say, ijust don't think it's going to happen. answer your happen. i mean, to answer your earlier lady c, they earlier question to lady c, they are friends. they have are best friends. they have lived for lived under the same roof for many, many years, but they're not romantically involved and i just can't see it happening. i mean, i think they've been very supportive to each other, obviously her recent, obviously through her recent, uh, ordeal and uh, breast cancer ordeal and obviously he's obviously we all know what he's been through . i thought at been through. i thought at christmas over . been through. i thought at christmas over. wait, christmas he looked over. wait, he was in this video? that one,

a member of the public shot and he very, very sort of he looked very, very sort of downbeat almost downbeat. i think he's almost verging being clinically verging on being clinically depressed. see what he's depressed. i can't see what he's going to be doing in the near future. but certainly these latest revelations that we've had epstein files had from the epstein files aren't help. and just aren't going to help. and i just don't back. but don't see him coming back. but certainly marrying her at the suggestion cole suggestion by michael cole i love cole, i think love michael cole, but i think the idea that would mean that the idea that he would mean that would help him shows how low he's however phil, i mean, he's sunk. however phil, i mean, it is kitchen sink time for prince andrew and ferguson. >> sarah ferguson and andrew have an electric chemistry , and have an electric chemistry, and she's been incredibly loyal to him. i mean, she's about his only cheer leader aside from his daughters . daughters. >> it's suited her to hang on to his coattails over the years, to be honest. >> i mean, she's had a roof over her head. she's been able to do, you know, her work and go off and thing. he, of course, and do her thing. he, of course, was gallivanting around around the world, enjoying himself. and was gallivanting around around th

for them. but i, i can't see them getting remarried. it's justand also lady has worth >> and also lady c has worth pointing out. um, you know, prince a of an prince andrew, he's a bit of an old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure sarah ferguson would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him sarah ferguson would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him back ferguson would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him back .zerguson would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him back . i'szon would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him back . i'm not would old slapper, isn't he? i'm not sure him back. i'm not quited want him back. i'm not quite sure what an old slap is. >> i'm sorry . >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> i think he's got, uh. i think he's what? hilary clinton would describe as a dog that's hard to keep on the porch. >> oh, well, hillary clinton is definitely an expert in that field, isn't she . field, isn't she. >> but i don't think i don't think that prince andrew and bill clinton are in the same category at all. let me put it that way. i think, in fact, they are as different as night and day. can't agree to prince andrew's reputation ? well, definitely. >> listen, you'll have to look up lady, see the word slapper after the program. but can i ask you, do you think that prince andrew has actually been given a hard , given the fact that hard time, given the fact that he's been made or found guilty

of no crimes and settled out of court with his accuser, virginia giuffre , with no admission of giuffre, with no admission of any guilt ? any guilt? >> oh, i think undoubtedly he's been given a hard time. and, you know, i actually am perplexed that people in this country don't realise that, you know, because he's a british prince. he's been hung out to dry. what about all of the americans who were far more involved ? you were far more involved? you know, i think it's pretty unfair and yes, he had a very inappropriate friendship with a very inappropriate person. but the fact of the matter is, and i know this personally, because of friends of mine , that, you know, friends of mine, that, you know, people rarely had no idea what epstein was up to. i mean, when you're as decadent as he was , you're as decadent as he was, you're as decadent as he was, you don't go around broadcast doing it to people you're trying to impress . yes. yeah. and to impress. yes. yeah. and i really think that people have

have , have taken a totally wrong have, have taken a totally wrong line on this. and i have to say that there's one newspaper group in this country that that is that spearheads an awful lot of this. and was in fact, responsible to one of their leading journalists for leering for gina giuffre out of her lair and, and, and which started the whole thing and they are great cheerleaders for the anti prince andrew campaign , which is to andrew campaign, which is to cover up for what they have done. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> now, of course, virginia giuffre is not here to defend herself and she would challenge allegations made against her. and of course the prince settled with her to the tune of several million pounds. but lady c and phil d, let's talk about harry and meghan the butt of jokes at the golden globes last night. take a listen . take a listen. >> uh, turns out prince harry and meghan markle will still get paid millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing . and

doing absolutely nothing. and that's just by netflix . that's just by netflix. >> uh, talented comedian host joe koy also pointed the finger at and made a bit of fun about harry scrambling around for cash. >> how great was imelda staunton in the crown ? wasn't she amazing in the crown? wasn't she amazing 7 in the crown? wasn't she amazing ? the portrayal of the queen was so good. prince harry called for her it and asked her for money. like i said, i didn't write all these . these. >> oh dear, how do you think that will be going down in montecito, phil? they won't be happy, will they ? the royal couple. >> they won't be happy. when? when you start to become figures of ridicule, you are in trouble. i mean, that wouldn't have happened a of years ago. happened a couple of years ago. when first went there. when they first went out there. they popular. and when you they were popular. and when you when with the when you fallen out with the woke and they're woke luvvies and they're starting mickey starting to take the mickey out of your star of you, you know that your star has afraid so. yeah has fallen. i'm afraid so. yeah now, this follows on from south park. a couple park. doesn't it? and a couple of programs that have, um, of other programs that have, um, you know, berated them and, uh,

everyone there. everyone was laughing there. everyone's just regarding them as and think as figures of fun. and i think this year is, know, going this year is, you know, is going to turning point for to be a real turning point for them. think unless they pull them. i think unless they pull something out of the bag, uh, they for bit of nosedive. >> oh, well, well, well, how might briefly, phil? how might that briefly, phil? how would bad year? would that manifest a bad year? what happen? are we what could happen? are we talking are what could happen? are we talitalking are what could happen? are we talitalking marriage are what could happen? are we talitalking marriage on are what could happen? are we talitalking marriage on the are what could happen? are we talitalking marriage on the rocks ? >> well 7- >> well i ? >> well i think well, i've lost their spotify thing, haven't they? out ideas they? they've run out of ideas and netflix. the money's not flowing unless come up flowing in unless they come up with really good money with some really good money making they've got all making schemes. they've got all the all the security to pay for and all sorts of, know, running sorts of, you know, running costs. really think they've costs. so i really think they've got hold of something to got to get hold of something to make otherwise they make some money. otherwise they are trouble. and at the are in trouble. and at the moment there's nothing on the horizon. how could things horizon. how bad could things get the couple? get for the couple? >> colin campbell well, >> lady colin campbell well, i can guarantee they're going to get an awful lot worse. >> wait until spring. they have a they have a real bomb coming their way in spring. uh, i think i think they are going to be completely exposed before this

summer. let me put it this, that way. i think they are going to be in such deep trouble. it's going to be nothing that we can imagine in. i think the chickens are coming home to roost in a very big way . very big way. >> very briefly. you're you're speculating wildly, but what do you mean, ladies? see what might happen. you mean, ladies? see what might happen . well i'm afraid i can't happen. well i'm afraid i can't say beyond this, but believe me, i know what i'm talking about. >> and i know who's going to drop the bomb . drop the bomb. >> oh my goodness. well, look, i hope you'll be here to commentate on it. my thanks to the royal dream team of phil dampier and lady c , a dampier and lady c, a fascinating conversation. i think you'll agree. but coming up, should nurses and midwives be struck off misgendering be struck off for misgendering their patients? is it merely their patients? and is it merely a belief that people can't swap sex? we'll debate that. and so many hot stories from the papers very soon. but up next,

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radio. >> welcome back to the show , >> welcome back to the show, mark dolan, with you for all of this week, 9 to 11. and let's have a look at tomorrow's papers. they have landed and we start with the metro . outrage start with the metro. outrage over scandal. boss a million people say stripped the post office. paula of cbe. more than a million people have signed a petition demanding that former post office chief paula vennells loses her cbe . over hundreds of loses her cbe. over hundreds of subpostmasters wrongly convicted of fraud whilst she was in charge . okay, next up. where charge. okay, next up. where shall we go? josh we've got the guardian. um, here we go. uh, alastair as well. scramble to clear victims of post office fraud scandal and $10,000. the going rate to flee the horrors

of gaza. also not barbies night the film oppenheimer wins big as hollywood awards season begins . hollywood awards season begins. sun newspaper next and epstein victims claim andrew in sex tapes shock prince andrew, bill clinton and sir richard branson appeared in sex tapes filmed by paedophile jeffrey epstein, according to bombshell court papers . these, of course, are papers. these, of course, are allegations at this stage and strenuously denied by those involved. let's have a look now at the daily telegraph. fujitsu may be forced to foot the for bill the post office scandal . bill the post office scandal. also, bottle of water contains 240,000 bits of plastic . a 240,000 bits of plastic. a single bottle of water can contain a quarter of a million pieces of plastic, a study has found. signs tests have found a new category of plastic pollution called nanoparticles , pollution called nanoparticles, which are created when micro plastics break down even further . well, that's a bit worry and got me rather dry in the mouth .

got me rather dry in the mouth. okay, listen, lots of stories to get through. let's get full reaction. by the way, let me introduce my top panel tonight. we have daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth, former brexit butterworth, and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. butterworth, and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy . and party mep belinda de lucy. and how about this from a story inside the telegraph . channel 4 inside the telegraph. channel 4 are at the centre of a diversity row tonight after they launched a protest against the appointment of four directors to the board because they are white. channel 4 chairman sir ian cheshire has warned that the board is now lagging behind its own diversity targets, with 41 of 15 members now due to be white. this clashes with the broadcaster's target to take 20% of staff from ethnic minorities , of staff from ethnic minorities, 12% from the disabled community and 6% lg. bt iq plus. so is it fair to rail against the appointment of white board members belinda . members belinda. >> no, i think it's horrible , >> no, i think it's horrible, this sort of anti—white rhetoric that's being sanctioned at the moment . i'm that's being sanctioned at the moment. i'm not

that's being sanctioned at the moment . i'm not surprised. it's moment. i'm not surprised. it's come from channel 4. if you're good enough for the job, if you've got there on merit, that surely is better for the channel in any job you have people for customer service, for efficiency , for quality. get there on merit. and i say this, as you know, a woman who who abhors women, shortlists and women getting jobs just because they're they're women . i they're they're women. i disagree, i think it's insulting . i think everyone has to has equal opportunities in this country. they work as hard as they can. their talent should be recognised, but it's only ever white people get it in the white people that get it in the neck is over 80% neck and the country is over 80% white, right? so they're complaining that four out of five are white. well, isn't that around 80? >> 89? i think so 2% of british are white. >> okay. >> okay. >> i mean, you've just shot your argument in the foot because you said four out of five people in the country are white. yeah that's why 20% are meant to be from non—white ethnic minority communities from non—white ethnic minority commlandzs is that if board. and the fact is that if they're enough for the they're good enough for the if they're good enough for the if they're there by merit, right. but this how works,

but this isn't how it works, because believe that 14 because i don't believe that 14 out are there on merit. out of 15 are there on merit. i believe they're there because we have instituted racial barriers that that people from these that mean that people from these backgrounds, that's been debunked in report after report as it echoes like the fact is that the media is still overwhelmingly white. you know, when i've seen other people's workplaces, have you looked in the mirror recently? benjamin butterworth white butterworth are incredibly white places, incredibly privileged places, incredibly privileged places , and channel 4 is places, and channel 4 is absolutely right to say that a board that one of the biggest broadcasters in the country , broadcasters in the country, being 93% white, is totally wrong and people shouldn't stand for it. what about merits? merit is there? the fact is that this argument that it is a hard question to answer, but you're stuttering. i'm not stuttering at all. what i'm doing is giving you an explanation, and that's that merit is not what's happening when you have all white, all men, all straight people in charge of ftse 100 countries, major broadcasters, newspapers don't tell me they are the only people capable of those jobs .

those jobs. >> i'm just trying to unpick that word. salad help me out, carol. >> he mentioned the words white and privilege same breath and privilege in the same breath before me before, which really annoys me because assumption there because the assumption is there that everyone was white was privileged. >> true. >> that's not true. >> that's not true. >> not what i said. >> that's not what i said. >> that's not what i said. >> have a look around you. did you used the words white privileged people? i'm sorry. that what is like. that is not what what is like. >> i didn't say white people >> i didn't say all white people are privileged. >> where say that? you >> where does it say that? you know, got be know, you've got to be the right. you've got to have the right. you've got to have the right for right colour of skin for a particular job. right colour of skin for a particularjob. that's not how particular job. that's not how it should be. you to have particular job. that's not how it siright be. you to have particular job. that's not how it siright talents| to have particular job. that's not how it siright talents for to have particular job. that's not how it siright talents for theo have particular job. that's not how it siright talents for the job. ve the right talents for the job. but that there is but we both know that there is positive discrimination many positive discrimination in many industries, including this industry, someone of industry, where someone of a certain skin colour gets a job because they because they tick a box, has to meet the tick box. >> this idea that why do you want to be that person benjamin. >> that ticks the boxes. it's patronising. it's probably racist we have racist, insulting that we have institutional racism in this country. >> who says we've got institutional racism? >> not look >> look at brexit, not just look at brexit statement. >> mediocre to do that video, you didn't go there brexit, you didn't go there did you?

>> i mean brexit was racist. >> i mean brexit was racist. >> why have 3.5 million eu citizens chosen to stay in the uk? >> most eu citizens are white. for a start, but oh the horror of it, they're racist as well. is that i was trying to say brexit is working. if white people on people are only there on mediocrity, then it that mediocrity, then why is it that the of the mediocre the march of the mediocre straight is straight white men, which is brexit, out yourself brexit, has worked out yourself in that group? >> way, i'm not straight. >> by the way, i'm not straight. >> by the way, i'm not straight. >> i hate to break this to you, mark the fact you're sounding so racist. >> @ white men that racist. >> white men that voted >> straight white men that voted brexit racist, disgusting . benjamin. >> in this country you have white people who are crap at their jobs, who give jobs to other who are also other white people who are also saying there are people they are not crap at their jobs, are you serious? of course they are. but the fact is, the people who are crap jobs there are not crap at theirjobs there are not on this panel, but there are. >> to differ on that. >> i beg to differ on that. >> i beg to differ on that. >> jobs to people >> people give jobs to people like them, and if you like to make barriers , you need to make those barriers, you need to have targets contract have targets as a contract employee would you employee of gb news, would you be for be happy to make way for somebody box ? somebody that ticks a box? >> are you happy to because i'm gay? you to on gay? are you happy to die on that altar? but you're

that altar? yeah, but you're white, aren't you? that altar? yeah, but you're whiwell,3n't you? that altar? yeah, but you're whiwell,3n't y(if? that altar? yeah, but you're whiwell,3n't y(if all these >> well, look, if all these panels all white, panels were all white, then i might with might agree with that. >> are white and privileged. >> you are white and privileged. yeah. give up your job, benjamin. yeah. it why >> yeah. give it up. why not? all these money? where your all these your money? where your mouth lecture everyone mouth is. you lecture everyone else on it. >> irony in this because i think this programme really this programme is really diverse. you all of diverse. you have all sorts of people of all sorts of backgrounds, great. backgrounds, and that's great. >> i mean, mean the channel. >> i mean, you mean the channel. >> i mean, you mean the channel. >> us? i think >> you mean all of us? i think channel i just think channel channel 4. i just think channel 4 diverse as 4 should look as diverse as these do. monday to these programmes do. monday to friday. have it. friday. you cannot have it. >> run businesses. you >> you can't run businesses. you can't run corporations on diversity cannot. can't run corporations on dive have cannot. can't run corporations on dive have to cannot. can't run corporations on divehave to employ cannot. can't run corporations on dive have to employ the 1not. can't run corporations on dive have to employ the most you have to employ the most talented people for job. talented people for the job. that's how works how that's how it works and how humiliating they're always white blood, one a everything blood, one at a time. everything else insult thing for people else is insult thing for people of colour to know they have got their position because they tick a box of a target that i've a box of a target for that i've got news for you. got bad news for you. >> , your token >> your, your our token northerner i'm northern. northerner tonight i'm northern. you take a lot of boxes. >> i'm from manchester. >> i'm from manchester. >> you to raise other people >> are you to raise other people up? you can can i say a quick up? you can i can i say a quick word? >> w- word? >> bit worried about this. >> i'm a bit worried about this. we were we should be we were told we should be drinking many bottles of water we were told we should be drinki day.iany bottles of water

we were told we should be drinki day. yeah,ottles of water we were told we should be drinki day. yeah,ottturns water every day. yeah, it turns out, to according telegraph, 200. every day. yeah, it turns out, toquarterng telegraph, 200. every day. yeah, it turns out, toquarter of telegraph, 200. every day. yeah, it turns out, toquarter of million raph, 200. every day. yeah, it turns out, toquarter of million bits, 200. every day. yeah, it turns out, toquarter of million bits of00. a quarter of a million bits of plastic in one bottle of water. i mean, so much for the experts , karen. >> you shouldn't worry about that. you drink so much cider vinegar in a day. that. you drink so much cider vinegar in a day . you've got vinegar in a day. you've got that to worry about. >> body's temple. that to worry about. >> not body's temple. that to worry about. >> not the y's temple. that to worry about. >> not the plasticnple. that to worry about. >> not the plastic npthe water. >> not the plastic in the water. yeah, drinking, but it's yeah, keep drinking, but it's not good, is it? not very good, is it? >> mean, do you remember that >> i mean, do you remember that huge effort in 80s and 90s huge effort in the 80s and 90s to us us to buy to get us to get us to buy bottled we mugs in bottled water? we were mugs in the place, we, the first place, weren't we, beunda? >> totally. listen, there's beunda? >> to to ly. listen, there's beunda? >> to to ly. ia;ten, there's beunda? >> to to ly. ia scare here's beunda? >> to to ly. ia scare story. beunda? >> to to ly. ia scare story every going to be a scare story every day telling us what to eat, day telling us what not to eat, what to not drink until. until you're get you're ill, you know, go get yourself out. i think yourself checked out. i think otherwise, water. otherwise, drink bottled water. >> messed with your head. >> look, you know, if buy >> look, you know, if you buy coffee, up coffee, there's often ground up cockroaches coffee because cockroaches in coffee because that's the that's where they live. in the coffee beans. and that's accepted the regulations. accepted within the regulations. that's so that's just finish me off. so coffee. if you're coffee. and that's why if you're allergic to seafood, then you're often allergic to coffee. sometimes because cockroach sometimes because the cockroach is. so you know, i'd rather that i'd rather have water than the coffee. >> thanks for that. coffee. >> bang,s for that. coffee. >> bang, bang. 1at. coffee. >> bang, bang. go, sir. >> bang, bang. go, sir. >> good. >> very good. >> very good. >> back to me, alison van goes. our sponsorship from costa.

listen, lots to listen, we've got lots more to get andrew is get through. prince andrew is once again taking a kicking in the papers and is apparently locked himself away a room, the papers and is apparently lockthingsiself away a room, the papers and is apparently lockthingsiself a'be' a room, the papers and is apparently lockthingsiself a'be' a rto m, the papers and is apparently lockthingsiself a'be' a rto get but things could be about to get even the disgraced even worse for the disgraced duke. crown tonight's duke. as i crown tonight's greatest britain union greatest britain and union jackass. greatest britain and union jackass . but first, should jackass. but first, should nurses and midwives be struck off for misgendering patients? and is it just a belief that people can swap sex or they cant? people can swap sex or they can't? well we'll panel will be debating that sparks will fly. this is patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan, only on gb news. see you in two.

welcome back to the show. time to return to the liveliest paper review on telly. more front pages have been delivered . and pages have been delivered. and we start with the eye newspaper post office scandal firm fujitsu gets major uk government contracts . something i mentioned contracts. something i mentioned earlier in my monologue. an

absolute scandal . the daily earlier in my monologue. an absolute scandal. the daily mail bombshell new pictures of partying on epstein's paedophile island as court papers claim tycoon had sex tapes of richard branson, bill clinton and, you guessed it, prince andrew. just allegations at the moment denied by those involved. shameless as national revulsion over the post office scandal mounts former boss still clings to her cbe and lib dem leader refuses to step aside. times now fast appeals for wrongly convicted postmasters and prince andrew, quote was in epstein sex tape . quote was in epstein sex tape. daily mirror latest royal shock new andrew humiliation when will it all end? now, court documents reveal woman claimed epstein made a sex tape of the prince . made a sex tape of the prince. he's never been good on television . let's get reaction television. let's get reaction from my top panel tonight. daily express columnist carole malone , express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster, very photogenic. benjamin butterworth and former brexit party mep beunda and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy looks terrible

in real life. never never, neven in real life. never never, never, never. okay well, listen, let's have a look at that story in the eye. newspaper post office scandal firm fujitsu gets major uk government contracts. absolute scandal benjamin i mean, you know, there are a lot of questions to be answered here. >> and most of the focus has been on paula vennells, the former ceo of post office, you mentioned it. i think on the metro page. actually metro front page. and i actually think this is where the real scandal lies. you know, it was fujitsu, the people behind this honzon fujitsu, the people behind this horizon computer system that clearly was making mistakes . clearly was making mistakes. they ones that were they were the ones that were trying to pull the hood, pull the wool over the eyes. that's the wool over the eyes. that's the phrase. and i think the idea they've got a new contract. look, it was probably negotiated before this current outrage came into should into place. uh, but they should be their public be having their 100 public contracts have contracts that they have reassessed. and i think the obsessive focus on paula vennells is not to say that she isn't a guilty party in this potentially is, but i think it's unfair because she took over in

2012. this had been going for on 13 years. she was the first person to at least let outside auditors in to look at the system. and i think putting all the focus on her when the very rich people allowed people to be convicted and jailed, and some people even kill themselves , she people even kill themselves, she allowed that to go on. >> while this investigation was going, she was covering. she played lead role in covering played a lead role in covering up the flaws of the of this company. this company had already this it system had already this it system had already tested in newcastle already been tested in newcastle in the mid 90s. the same in the mid 90s. and the same thing then . and yet a thing happened then. and yet a contract given them to contract was given to them to three years she played three years later. she played a lead role in covering this. this is a church of england deacon for god's sake. and people were killing themselves on her watch and she let it go on. >> and the point is that when you're the head of an organisation which fails so egregiously, you always go, it would same was would be the same if it was a government minister. >> yeah. i mean, i'm more bothered £5 million bothered about the £5 million payout got when she left and payout she got when she left and then cbe, and i'm not then the cbe, and i'm not

defending carol is defending her. carol is of course right . defending her. carol is of course right. i'm just saying defending her. carol is of courif right. i'm just saying defending her. carol is of cour if we're. i'm just saying defending her. carol is of cour if we're the] just saying defending her. carol is of courif we're the only saying defending her. carol is of cour if we're the only person we that if we're the only person we focus on this is her, then i think you're going to miss the bad never fujitsu. bad part. she never fujitsu. i think actually she has. >> previously said that >> she's previously said that she truly sorry for the she was truly sorry for the suffering caused to subpostmasters who were wrongly convicted. yet you look at ed >> yeah. and yet you look at ed davey he's not apologised. you look the labour look where are the labour ministers from 1999 to 2010 who were involved? they haven't said anything. who are they? so i kind of get benjamin's point, inasmuch as if you focus everything let everything on her, you let everyone away with it. everyone else get away with it. i say, take it, take all i say, i say, take it, take all the quash all the the scalps, quash all the convictions. should pay convictions. fujitsu should pay every victim 600 now . every single victim 600 k now. >> and why is sunak not saying this? why is sunak not getting teams of government lawyers to get the compensation on pay to those people? now he's working, isn't he, to make sure that everyone gets exonerated , which everyone gets exonerated, which currently only 100? i don't never mind exonerated pay them the money. they exonerate them in a minute. but pay them the money that they spent. first of

all, he sunak does not get how this is urgent fabric of this nation. okay? he doesn't get that this is ordinary people who've been stuffed up by by by an organisation. >> benjamin just to say there's 900 other people were convicted , 900 other people were convicted, but there was also there was a woman i watched on this morning on television this morning who she tried to take her own life under the stress of this. >> then when it came to the >> and then when it came to the court case, they didn't have the evidence to convict her. so she wasn't of wasn't convicted. but because of that, entitled to that, she's not entitled to compensation the moment. compensation at the moment. despite having put through despite having been put through absolute . more people absolute scandal. more people who deserve. >> sunak page >> speaking of sunak front page of newspaper, sunak of the i newspaper, carol sunak revives johnson's revives boris johnson's levelling up pledge to woo the red wall. are you buying no. red wall. are you buying it? no. >> i don't think sunak has >> um, i don't think sunak has a clue about the red wall, what they need, what want. they need, what they want. i don't like him very don't think they like him very much . um, don't think they much. um, i don't think they like much better, but like starmer much better, but i don't, you know, boris resonated with the people in the red wall. they liked him, sunak. they liked him, um, and sunak. not a boris. and he's not going to be able to get them onside. i

think they look at him and say billionaire married to a billionaire, okay, doesn't understand what we who we understand what we are, who we are, what we. >> carol's not having it. uh listen, spokesperson listen, a spokesperson from fujitsu, behind fujitsu, the company behind the faulty horizon system, said the current post office horizon it statutory inquiry is examining complex events stretching back over 20 years. the inquiry has reinforced the devastating impact on postmasters lives and that of their families, and fujitsu has apologised for its role in their suffering . now role in their suffering. now let's reveal our pundits , uh, let's reveal our pundits, uh, brilliant greatest britain and union jack carson. >> they're already . >> they're already. >> they're already. >> carol, who's your greatest britain today? >> my greatest britain is leader of the commons. of the house of commons. >> penny mordaunt. she wants to erect honour the erect a statue to honour the navy its contribution navy for its contribution to ending a lot of ending the slave trade. a lot of people know that. in 1806, people don't know that. in 1806, britain ended slave trade. britain ended the slave trade. we navy . i am 3636. ship we are navy. i am 3636. ship ships crewed by 4000 men, saved 150,000 men, women and children who are being shipped to the americas as slave. we saved those people and for every nine

slaves that we saved, one navy man died. so, so we paid the price. 17,000 of our navy men died . but to price. 17,000 of our navy men died. but to hear a lot of people in this country talk today about the slave trade that is never mentioned at all. so, penny mordaunt wants to you're right. >> we paid with blood and treasure. >> we paid and penny mordaunt wants to erect a statue. it's now been by various now been backed by various people michael ashcroft and people. michael ashcroft and a professor history today people. michael ashcroft and a professoihe history today people. michael ashcroft and a professoihe saysyry today people. michael ashcroft and a professoihe says historyy people. michael ashcroft and a professoihe says history has been because he says history has been rewritten. people know the rewritten. people don't know the real brilliant nomination. rewritten. people don't know the reaii brilliant nomination. rewritten. people don't know the reaii just brilliant nomination. rewritten. people don't know the reaii just brwe've nomination. rewritten. people don't know the reaii just brwe've gotnination. rewritten. people don't know the reaii just brwe've got to ation. rewritten. people don't know the reaii just brwe've got to we've >> i just say we've got to we've got to raise 70 grand to erect this please get people this statue. please get people to onto the justgiving and to go onto the justgiving and look west africa look up the website. west africa squadron, that's west africa squadron. >> just giving what a great cause. >> just giving what a great cause . um, benjamin, briefly, if cause. um, benjamin, briefly, if you can your your my greatest britain is sadiq khan. >> oh because he did such an exceptional job improving the pay exceptional job improving the pay of for transport london workers and saving londoners from strike action. what a role model . model. >> your picture. yeah, he's not winning, is he? >> the plastic in in your drinking water is really affected. you belinda.

>> your greatest britain. >> your greatest britain. >> my greatest britain is major mike sadler. this is the last surviving original sas member. he was recruited by david stirling. he died at 103 last week. it's a salute to this legend and all the heroes of the sas, past and present . legend and all the heroes of the sas, past and present. but legend and all the heroes of the sas, past and present . but what sas, past and present. but what a trooper. he won the military cross . he was parachuted into cross. he was parachuted into nazi occupied , a fine man, a nazi occupied, a fine man, a fine man and a true hero. >> yours, lovely carol, >> i loved yours, lovely carol, but i'm going to give it to belinda. and a true war hero. today's greatest britain is major . may he rest major mike sadler. may he rest in peace. okay, carol. your jackass, my jackass , obviously jackass, my jackass, obviously is paula vennells post office box as she's been accused of playing a lead role in covering up evidence and the flaws behind the horizon. >> it system. you know, she hasn't properly apologised. whatever before she whatever you said before she says was for the says she was sorry for the suffering, she hasn't suffering, but she hasn't properly apologised. >> but sorry. >> i'm sorry but not sorry. >> i'm sorry but not sorry. >> but not sorry. she >> sorry but not sorry. she brought government brought the government into disrepute. post disrepute. she brought the post office and she's office into disrepute and she's responsible with others for wrecking the lives of hundreds

of people. >> carol, you're going to have to get off that fence. if the show's network. >> okay. benjamin, you're you're you're my union jackass is the alleged porn star prince andrew. >> uh, i think, you know, he's got so much to apologise for, and he's bringing down the royal family. stories in family. and those stories in tomorrow's we, you tomorrow's papers that we, you know, seen do not make for kind. >> can we just point out he's been convicted of nothing and admitted been convicted of nothing and adrokay. >> okay. >> okay. >> but a fair nomination. >> but a fair nomination. >> and my jackass, >> and belinda, my jackass, is a new of climate nutters. >> the tyre extinguishers . yes. >> the tyre extinguishers. yes. they exist. they're a group of people that go around slashing tires of gas guzzling cars. but guess what they did in bristol? they ended slashing they ended up slashing an electric of an electric car of an environmentally man out rageous. >> well, listen folks, i'm going to give it to benjamin butterworth. >> are . yes, indeed. prince >> are. yes, indeed. prince andrew is the winner. thank you to my brilliant pundits. i'll see you tomorrow at nine. headliners is next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather on . gb

solar sponsors of weather on. gb news evening. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news temperatures tumbling once more out there tonight could be a bit icy as well. we have seen a few snow flurries across parts of the high pressure is in the south. high pressure is in control, things pretty control, keeping things pretty dry for most of this week, but with the easterly breeze we have seen a few showers across the south. as i said, some sleet and snow mixed in, huge amounts, snow mixed in, no huge amounts, but nevertheless could see a covering places and wherever covering in places and wherever we've showers could be icy we've got showers could be icy so we do a met office ice so we do have a met office ice warning in place across the south. slippery south. those slippery conditions into hours. further into the early hours. further north, some stubborn fog patches across northern scotland and many dipping to or below many places dipping to or below freezing of the east may freezing parts of the east may just stay above freezing, where we keep a bit cloud and we keep a bit more cloud and some will start a bit grey on tuesday day. quite cloudy over northeast england, southeast scotland showers over scotland any early showers over the should skew away the southwest should skew away and for many it's a bright day tomorrow. bright fine winter's day. feeling chilly. temperatures starting off around freezing getting up to

freezing and only getting up to 3 degrees. feeling colder 3 or 4 degrees. feeling colder with wind across the south, with the wind across the south, particularly if you're stuck under that cloud across northeastern . northeastern parts of england. a bit more cloud coming in to northeastern areas by wednesday, and a few more showers likely, although these expected be although these expected to be chiefly maybe some chiefly of rain, maybe some sleet on hills. sunny sleet and snow on hills. a sunny day generally across the south and coast . again, and many western coast. again, fine and sunny through wednesday thanks to that area of high pressure temperatures just creeping up a touch, but still below average. and of course it will more will feel colder once more in the . the wind. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> good evening with gb news. the top story this hour. the post office minister says securing justice for victims of the horizon it scandal and making sure such a tragedy never happens again is his highest priority at the time. the former post office boss, paula vennells, denied there were problems with the horizon. it system, which showed money was missing from post office branches at reckoning up time. each day implies theft as a result , each day implies theft as a result, hundreds of each day implies theft as a result , hundreds of postmasters result, hundreds of postmasters and mistresses were convicted, jailed , bankrupted, some even jailed, bankrupted, some even took their own lives. well now

there are calls for mrs.